Social Credit Scores Are Coming HERE | Guests: Eric Bolling, Craig Strazzeri, & John Solomon | 8/27/19

Welcome back, Stu.

Thank you, Glenn.

I'm glad to be here.

Are you?

No, I am not.

Yeah, I didn't think so.

I didn't.

I was lying.

Thank you for it.

I wish you did.

Where were you?

Where did you go?

What did you do?

The Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex.

What?

I visited it.

Yeah, it was beautiful.

I hear it.

This time of year.

Oh, it was 147 degrees.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, beautiful.

So, did you just lay out in the sun and just bake?

Oh, I sure did.

Yeah.

It was wonderful.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, it was mainly around here.

We had some stuff going on, work on the house and such.

Oh, nothing better.

Yeah.

It's called a vacation, Glenn.

You know, you got the cruise coming up next

spring.

Yeah.

Sure, you could do that.

Yeah.

But what about staying at home in 147-degree heat while work's going on at the house?

Yeah, that's great.

What if you could fix the roof?

Oh,

you know,

last summer we had somebody fix our roof, and it was in the middle of summer, and I'm looking at those guys.

I just, can I just hose you guys down up there?

Can I constantly run?

No, the water's too hot.

I mean, it's crazy.

All right.

Back in a second.

Great show coming up.

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Two people have been arrested.

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Thank you.

The governor of Idaho said, nah, I don't think so.

No, I'm not going to do it.

Ton of email on my comments about 5G.

Oh, and Silicon Valley is building a Chinese-style social credit system

for us.

You know, this is great.

We start there in one minute.

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Okay, for anybody who hasn't been paying attention, I want to explain the Chinese social credit system.

Since 2014 in China, the social credit system

has been implemented and is evolving into a single nationwide point system for all Chinese citizens.

And it is akin to a financial credit score.

It follows you everywhere.

There is no place to hide from the cameras.

It is evolved now into you have to have a certain app on your phone, and they monitor you

every day

you take this app, you open it up,

and you have to kind of take a test about what the great leader is doing today.

And he, you know, it gives you all the news of what the great leader is doing and what the communists are doing that is so good for you, then you have to take a test.

If you don't open that app every day, your social credit goes down.

If you're not taking that test, your social credit goes down.

They track you and feed you everything that they want to feed you, and you must consume it.

If you jaywalk across the street, your social credit goes down.

If you speak ill about the country, your social credit goes down.

If you are talking to someone who has a low social credit score, your social credit goes down.

It is horrible what is happening in China.

It is becoming a true police state.

Orwellian, 1984.

And it aims to punish for any kind of transgression that can include membership in or support for the Falun Gong or Tibetan Buddhism.

If you haven't paid your debt, if you have excessive video gaming, criticizing the government, late payments, failing to sweep the sidewalk in front of your store or house, smoking, or playing loud music on trains, jaywalking, anything that is unacceptable by the Chinese government.

It also awards points for charitable donations, even taking one's own parents to the doctor.

And the punishments are harsh.

There are bans on leaving the country, bans on using public transportation.

So in other words,

sorry, all of a sudden you get to the bus and your phone says, offender, not enough social credit, you have to walk.

You're not taking a bus.

You can't check into certain hotels.

You will immediately not be hired for any high visibility job.

If you have spoken out against the government, you have posted something that shouldn't have been posted, Your children will be pulled out of the private school and may not even make it into a public school.

It can result in slower internet connections and also

social stigmatization

because

you are now registered on a public social blacklist.

Your face actually goes up on billboards, electronic billboards, in your neighborhood.

And anyone who interacts with you, their social credit goes down.

They brag that they can keep people locked in their house just because

they won't be able to go anywhere.

It is authoritarianism gamified.

Now,

I've told you for a while, if Google and Silicon Valley is helping them do these things,

what makes you think that they won't do the same here?

Well,

they are.

There are now 40 or so pilot projects operated by local governments, at least six run by tech giants.

Now, Beijing is doing this.

China is doing this.

They have two nationwide lists: one called the black list, the other one is the red list.

That's kind of like a white list here.

The Chinese government shares its list with all technology platforms.

They give you every month a social credit, and that social credit

determines the rest of your life.

Now, some Chinese people are unaware that this even exists at this point because they haven't gotten it all to the entire country, but their goal is China 2020 to have the entire country on this.

Surveys done by the government show that 80% of the Chinese citizens that are surveyed strongly approve of the social credit system.

Of course they do.

You're tracking them.

Now, if you are disturbed by any of this, let me tell you what's going on now.

In America, the New York State Department of Financial Services announced earlier this year that life insurance companies can base premiums on what they find in your social media posts.

If you have an Instagram picture showing you teasing a grizzly bear at Yellowstone with a martini in a hand and a bucket of cheese fries in the other, you're going to pay a higher rate.

However, if you are doing yoga, you're going to pay a lower rate.

Anything that shows you're healthy and wise, you're going to get a lower rate.

Anything that shows you that you are doing anything at all dangerous, you're going to get a higher rate.

Now, that seems kind of reasonable.

It's like, well, you know,

I have insurance on me.

I can't go to a war zone.

I can't fly a plane.

I can't go cliff, you know, climbing.

All this stuff I'm never going to do.

I'm fine with it.

They were like, you can't do these things anymore.

And I'm like, does that include jumping out of a perfectly good airplane with a parachute?

And they're like, yeah.

And I'm like, good.

Check that one off my list.

So you don't have a problem with it per se

unless you do those things.

If you are somebody that is into adventure sports,

you better tell the truth or you're going to pay a very high penalty.

Now, there's also something called a patron scan.

So the insurance companies, you're kind of like, well, I think that's probably okay.

If you say you don't smoke and then you're seen smoking on Facebook, that's probably okay.

But now we have Patron Scan.

This company sells three products, kiosk, desktop, and handheld systems.

And what it is, it's designed to help bar and restaurant owners manage customers.

Patron Scan is a subsidiary of the Canadian software company, a biometric company.

It's now on sale in the United States, Canada, Australia, and the United Kingdom.

And it helps spot fake

IDs, but it also tracks troublemakers.

So when you arrive at, let's say, a patron scan using bar, what they do is they ask you for ID, they scan it.

The company maintains a list of objectionable customers designed to protect venues from people who have previously had a problem in any bar, fighting sexual assault, drugs, thefts, or any other bad behavior.

But the bad behavior, that list is up to to each restaurant

so

if you go into some restaurant with a MAGA hat

can you be put on this scan

now

if you are banned in one bar you will be banned in all bars that use this

system

And that's in Australia, the United States, the United Kingdom.

No matter where you go, you are known as someone who can't go into the bar.

Now, the kind of behavior, all up to the individual bar.

The owners of each bar can ignore the bans if they want.

The data of non-offending customers is deleted in 90 days.

So even if you're not

doing something wrong, they're still holding all your information for 90 days.

They keep a private list that are not shared with other bars if they want, but if you are a bad customer, it can be kept for five years.

They do have an appeals process, but it's up to the company whether they listen to it or not.

Uber and Airbnb.

We all know that when you get into an Uber, if the driver has written something bad about you, you're probably not going to get into another Uber.

If you have somebody

who didn't like you, can say whatever, you're going to not be able to use Uber.

Airbnb is now the same, and that is a private list.

So if you are in an Airbnb,

and think about how big Airbnb is now.

If you're in an Airbnb and the owner didn't like something or said you did something,

even if you didn't do it,

they can alert Airbnb.

It's kept confidential.

You have no right to see what your accuser is telling you, and you are banned from all Airbnb.

WhatsApp,

also developing for communications, a new

social credit score.

For example, you can be banned on WhatsApp if too many other users block you.

You can also get banned

for sending spam, threatening messages, trying to hack or reverse engineer the WhatsApp app, or using the service with an unauthorized app.

Now, this is small potatoes in the United States, but not for the rest of the world, because in many parts of the world, this is the main form of communication.

Not being allowed to use WhatsApp in some countries is like not being able to use a telephone in America.

Now, here's the problem.

Nobody likes antisocial, violent, rude, unhealthy, reckless people.

We got it.

So what's wrong with this technology?

As I have said before, what is now being built completely changes our system.

We have always had protections of the First and Second Amendment.

We've had protections of privacy, supposedly, under the Constitution.

We don't anymore.

First Amendment, freedom of of speech?

Nope.

How about freedom of assembly?

Nope.

Freedom of

assembly with people that you choose?

Nope.

It's not protected.

Freedom of religion?

No.

They're banning Christian ads now just because they're Christian.

That doesn't sound like a good thing.

And that's protected by the Constitution.

Not really.

Second Amendment?

Nope.

Anybody can say, nope, no guns here.

And they don't have to do anything about it.

They can pressure banks now to say, don't do business with the gun manufacturers or the gun businesses or people who have a gun.

Don't do business with them.

We're going to cancel their financial services.

Totally fine because it's a private company.

Don't quarter soldiers in the house.

Well, the NSA is already doing it, but so is, so is Google, so is Amazon.

They're listening to your conversation.

There is no such thing as privacy anymore.

And no law can stop these things

because they're private companies.

They can do whatever they want.

In China, they're doing it by force because the government.

China is going this way, just as Orwell predicted in 1984,

But just as Brave New World predicted,

Huxley said it would come with a big happy face on it.

It would come through service and it would be great, and you'd want this service.

Both of those.

I remember a time within the last 10 years, people were saying, Oh,

looks like Huxley was right, Orwell was wrong.

No,

they were both right.

One, 1984, fits the East.

Huxley

applies to us in the West.

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So Eric Bowling sat down with Mike Pence yesterday.

We're going to get a recap from him in just a few minutes.

Also, coming up in about 15 minutes, we have

the people that are arguing in front of the Supreme Court today

about Prager being banned from or shadow banned

with Google.

This is a really important Supreme Court case.

We'll talk to him

just before he goes into the courtroom here in a few minutes to argue the case in front of the Supreme Court.

So yesterday,

we talked a little bit about 5G, and John Bolt, who is one of my favorite employees, and I just love working with him.

He is the guy who reads

most of the email that comes in, and he hates it when I talk about how much I hate cats because all of the cat lovers write in.

And he's like, Glenn, you just wrecked my day.

So I apologize, but I do really hate cats.

Anyway,

he said, the only thing that has come close to rivaling it is what I said yesterday about 5G.

5G, there is no evidence that 5G causes cancer.

None.

Zero zip.

It is most likely, I believe,

it's just as likely, if not more likely, that this is a rumor that was started by China or Russia to shake Americans off the track.

You have to understand,

if we don't do 5G, if we fall behind,

things are going to change dramatically.

I believe we lose our superpower status almost overnight.

Silicon Valley will collapse on itself.

Invention, American ingenuity, gone.

Because it will, if you miss this train, it will be like being in the second grade.

And in a year, everyone else that was with you in the second grade is now in the 12th grade.

And you're not even sure that you're going to be able to make it to the third grade.

It is really, really a huge deal.

And we can get into more of that probably on tomorrow's show.

But what I do want to say is I did some more research, and yesterday I told you it doesn't cause cancer.

I want you to know that I was wrong.

Doing more research, I found that it does cause cancer, but only in the heads of cats.

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Welcome to the program, fellow Blaze co-worker,

Eric Bowling, who is heard on the Blaze.

Yeah,

do we get minimum wage?

Have they raised the minimum wage yet, Glenn?

No, they haven't told me that.

No.

I'm a long way from making $15 an hour, and that's why I'm voting for Bernie Sanders.

So you met yesterday with the vice president.

Tell me about it.

So,

yeah, real interesting.

There's a Faith in Freedom Conference, I guess a fundraiser that Jeff Duncan was putting on in South Carolina.

And I had the opportunity.

They said, you want a little exclusive one-on-one with the vice president?

I said, absolutely.

I drove, I live in Charleston now, so I drove up to Greenville.

And I got a few, I got like 12 minutes with the vice president one-on-one exclusive, and it was fantastic because, you know, I'm driving up there, and I'm thinking,

there's so much going on right now.

There's so much going on in the Trump world.

Do I do this?

How much, you know, as you know, Glenn, you get someone that you've

who's doing kind of, you know, reaching out to you, doing your favorite, doing a one-on-one exclusive.

How hard do you press the gas?

I said, you know what?

There's too much happening right now.

I got to go full throttle.

And I did.

I asked them the important stuff.

I asked them what's the stuff with Nikki Haley.

You know, the ambassador tweeting that...

calm down everyone were we're good friends with with the vice president i said yeah i asked him point blank is nikki Haley vying to be the vice president in 2020?

And then I said, has the president told you you are his running mate in 2020?

I mean, those are questions I think he wasn't really expecting me to ask.

I will tell you this, because I floated the theory among friends

at the White House, and I have said, you know, I have nothing against Mike Pence.

I really like Mike Pence, and I think Mike Pence was

one of the reasons why Donald Trump was elected, because he was able to galvanize the religious right

and make people feel comfortable with

Donald Trump.

However,

I think having Nikki Haley on the ticket with Donald Trump, with no offense to Mike Pence,

I think would be very advantageous for the president this time around.

Yeah, I agree.

I think

he couldn't lose with either one.

I think you're probably right that maybe

you check another box with Nikki Haley.

Trump, let's be honest, I believe he's going to win with a wider margin than last time, but a lot of it's going to come down to the suburbs and the female vote.

And Nikki Haley would certainly firm up that.

But I think either way, but I think it's an easier ride with a female vice president.

I know that, I mean, I know when you have 12 minutes, you probably have four questions, maybe, if the person

wants to talk.

Did you get into the economy at all and the trade war?

Do you get the sense that they are very well aware that if the economy turns, this president is going to have a real uphill battle?

Yeah.

So, so yes, and that's where I started because, you know, like I had said at the time, the president was flying back from the G7.

And I said that we were in the midst of a trade war with China.

We've had conflicting comments coming out, one from the president, one from Stephanie Grisham, his comms director, another one from the president.

Again, I said, look,

are we prepared?

The president said he's prepared to continue to raise tariffs on China in Phineom

if they don't relent and play ball.

And he says, we are.

And I said, well, I said,

you know, in all honesty, Mr.

Vice President, I'm against tariffs.

And I love a lot of things that you guys are doing, but tariffs is not one of the things I like.

I said, but it seems to be working.

I said,

is this President Trump's idea, or is this Steve Mnuchin talking in his ear with Larry Kudlow in the other ear, you know, playing hardball with China, or is this coming from the president?

He said, he laughed.

He said, Eric, as you know, and I've known the president for 15 years.

He said, as you know, the president for a long time,

he has a lot of smart people around him, but everything he does just comes directly from the president.

So he did.

He weighed in on that, and he's ready to play hardball with China.

But I also said, well, in that case, can I ask you this?

What's this idea about nuking hurricanes?

And he laughed again.

He said, oh, you know,

that didn't happen.

All right.

All right.

So when does this interview air?

We're going to put it up live tonight.

They tell me it's going to be up around 7 p.m.

on the Blaze platform, like usual.

You know, my show usually comes out around 7 p.m.

on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

So that will come out tonight.

It's really fascinating because I got into some of the, I asked him,

what's the Greenland idea?

What's that all about?

And he really explained it in a way that I hadn't ever thought of.

Like,

it became,

you know, when I went into it thinking, you know, Trump sees it as, you know, a real, you know,

high-profile real estate buy and maybe some sort of,

you know, what was the motivation?

I went through it.

Is it security?

Is it financial?

Yeah.

And he really broke it down and it made a ton of yeah I mean Donald Trump the press has made fun fun of Donald Trump on this one.

Nobody should.

We've had three or four presidents that have wanted to buy Greenland, and it has always gone sideways.

But it actually is a very wise move if somebody could get it done.

Eric, we'll watch for that tonight only on Blaze TV.

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Thanks, Eric.

We're going to go to the steps of the Supreme Court in just about four minutes.

Standby for that.

There's a huge case going into oral arguments today

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We go to Craig Strazziri, who is

the CMO with Prager University.

Prager

has been going through trouble with Google.

They are starting their lawsuit against Google today, Ninth Circuit Court.

I thought it was the Supreme Court, but it's not there yet.

It's It's Ninth Circuit Court, which is a crazy courtroom.

Welcome, Craig.

How are you?

I'm great.

Thank you, Glenn.

Thank you for having me.

Sure.

So as you're getting ready to go in and present the oral arguments,

tell the listeners first exactly what

you're fighting.

Yeah, so Google and YouTube, as you know, they are a giant corporation that has a lot of power and control and can control what people see.

And so over the past few years, the problem has only continued to get worse.

And so there are now over 200 PragerU videos that are being restricted.

You get this going, five of the videos that Dennis Prager does on the Ten Commandments are being restricted.

So they don't even hide their bias at this point.

It's really unfortunate.

So

our case is really centered around this argument about a public forum, the distinction between a public forum and a publisher.

And so a public forum, which could be a physical location or could be a website, is a place where the business invites someone to come on.

Excuse me, sorry, the business invites the public to come and use their platform for speech.

So YouTube says anyone can come on here and give us their opinion, but then they turn around and censor us for their political viewpoints.

So that's the basis of our lawsuit.

What do you think the odds are of winning?

Because this doesn't just affect you.

That affects really anybody who is being shadow banned.

And it is, in my opinion, critical that you win this.

If you lose this,

and I'm guessing you will in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals because they're insane,

but if you do lose this, this is a very bad blow to freedom of speech.

These corporations will have no restrictions

on

any of their behavior.

No, that's right.

That's exactly right.

And the Ninth Circuit is crazy.

And if we lose it, we're in big trouble.

It's getting more and more scary.

And if they have the power to control what people see and just restrict content that they disagree with,

then this is really scary.

And most of America doesn't even know this is going on because the mainstream media has completely ignored this issue.

Well, they're doing things like, for instance, they are banning Prager University.

As you said, 200 different videos.

Dennis is the best voice ever on the Ten Commandments.

I mean, his books on, you know, his books on the Old Testament and his his

his videos on the Ten Commandments, there's just nobody even close to him.

There's nothing that is you know political partisan that is going on with that.

This is just an anti-religious bias that they have

yeah exactly.

I mean it clearly shows that they're targeting us for our identity and I'm sure your

listeners may be aware that Project Veritas just had a couple of Google whistleblowers come come out.

You know, one of them mentioned that you guys, you and your show is on a blacklist, but they've also mentioned that Praeger U has been targeted.

Their own employees are coming out and admitting that they're targeting conservatives.

And like you said, Dennis's message in the Ten Commandments are so mainstream that it's really getting to be absurd at this point.

Their own employees are admitting it, yet they continue to go in front of Congress and they continue to say that they're politically neutral, which is obviously a lie.

So,

what is your attack?

I mean, what is the, you know, you're going up against Google, who has more money and power than God at this point.

What is your strategy?

Well, this is a classic case of David and Goliath, and one reason I'm really proud to work and represent Prager U is that we're fighters.

Dennis always says that courage with or goodness without courage is is useless.

So we're very courageous at Prager U, and we're really fighting for freedom of speech, not just for Prager U, but for all Americans.

So this is a very important case, and there's going to be a lot of supporters there today at the courthouse for Prague, which is very exciting.

A lot of people recognize how important this case is.

And so, yes, the Ninth Circuit is crazy, but we're going to take this as far and as long as we need to, all the way up to the Supreme Court to keep fighting.

Well, the good news is if you're turned down by the Ninth Circuit Court, they are the most overturned court in the country.

I mean,

if they say the sky is blue, I'll swear to you that it's red because they're wrong almost every time.

That is true.

Yeah.

All right, Craig.

Best of luck.

Anything that we can do to help?

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We have a petition against YouTube that 600,000 people have already signed.

If they're so willing and generous, that we are a non-profit, and any donation will help us keep spreading public awareness on this issue.

So we've got to keep fighting, and I appreciate you having me on.

You bet.

Thanks, Craig.

Appreciate it.

There is

only a handful of things that I believe are

Godsends and things that will actually help save the country.

Operation OUR, the Underground Railroad, the saving of

children in the sex slave racket, 40 million slaves around the world.

That, the Nazarene Fund, I think is critical.

And

Prager University is another one.

It is I just don't think that there's anybody that reaches as many people, especially young people,

as Prager University.

I mean, they are up to, I think, their billionth view,

and

they have just swept the internet, and they're watched all over the world.

And it's really important work.

If you can support them, and that's either financially or just through a prayer today, would be helpful.

Prager University.

Yeah, things like

their video on the Electoral College.

Like, it's something like that, that is, like, one of the only things standing in the way of younger people just getting on the national popular vote bandwagon.

When it's actually explained, which never happens in the media,

people understand it pretty easily.

But it takes four or five minutes.

And is that a is that something that you know the media will actually dedicate to an important topic like this?

No.

You know, yesterday I did a special hour.

Hour number two this week, or at least for the the next, I think, two or three days, is going to be about the economy and all the things that you need to know.

Today, the truth about recessions.

Recessions are good

and bad for the politician.

And we'll explain the truth about recessions that nobody really ever explains anymore.

We've completely gone off the deep end on this.

And it's because of the Fed.

Yesterday, we explained, I had so much mail yesterday, and people came in to my office yesterday, and they were like, Glenn, thank you for that monologue on how important America is.

We gave you some stats yesterday about

how the sovereign funds from almost all of the countries around the world are all investing in our stock market and in our bonds because it's the only return.

We are the last one that is offering real returns.

And you can't make money money anyplace else.

If we fail, if we falter, the entire world falters.

If we get off of the free market, which Elizabeth Warren will do,

the entire world goes to hell.

And that's not hyperbole.

If we fail.

Economically, everything goes to hell in a handbasket.

And by the way, the poll that came out yesterday, I've been waiting to ask you about it, and it came out yesterday.

That's a real poll, isn't it?

The Mommoth poll, showing a three-way tie, basically, at the top.

Yes, absolutely.

One of the highest-rated pollsters there is.

Now, it's one poll.

There's only been one other one that's shown a result like this.

That one was a little bit shaky, but this one is A-plus.

Yeah, an A-plus-rated pollster.

I mean, Elizabeth Warren could be our next president.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.

We have an hour on the economy.

Yesterday, we told you why America's economy was so important.

Today, we talk about recessions.

They're good for economies.

They're bad for people and presidents.

And you'll learn the nasty secret about recessions that the media will never tell you.

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This is the Glenbeck program.

All this week, in this time period, I'm going to be talking to you about the economy, what's coming, what you need to know, explaining things that maybe the mainstream media just can't find time to explain.

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Playing

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They have a Trump card, no pun intended, and I told you about that yesterday.

Also, whose fault is it if the economy goes down?

If you didn't hear it yesterday, please go back to the podcast and listen to it.

Today, we're going to talk to you about recessions.

What are they?

Well, they're good for economies.

They're just painful for people and very bad for presidents.

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Good for economies,

harsh on people, bad for presidents.

Now, I don't want to sound like Bill Maher, and I don't want to step into his quagmire of sounding like I'm wishing or supportive of a recession striking the U.S.

economy.

let me start by emphatically stating I neither hope for a recession nor am I forecasting one to occur now, soon, next year, or at any particular time.

We are off the charts on recessions, so no one knows.

Marr has gotten himself into trouble because he's openly wishing for the economy to crash into recession, despite the fact that it will be devastating to millions of Americans who will lose their jobs.

Many of them will lose their homes or their businesses.

He believes that we should have a recession between now and November 2020 because Trump will lose his reelection bid, and that would make it worth it even though other people are suffering.

Now, that's easy for a guy who's worth over $100 million to say, but let me say.

I pray every day that we do not experience a recession.

Because unlike Maher, I'd really rather not see any American, whether I agree or disagree with them, suffer an economic downturn.

And also, because when it comes to the reelection of Donald Trump, I think Bill Maher is right about that.

If a recession happens and the economy goes off the wet rails, he will be blamed.

First-term presidents are really susceptible to recessions dooming their chances at serving a second term.

And Trump has attached much of his presidency and his campaign performance of the U.S.

economy.

If you're taking credit for everything, you're going to get blamed for everything as well.

But first, before we really get into this, let me explain so we are on the same page.

For today's purposes, I'm discussing the textbook definition of an economic recession.

That's two or more quarters of declining gross domestic products, six months or more, where the total financial output of the United States is shrinking.

Now, historically speaking, the United States experiences a recession about every seven years.

Remember that number.

Every seven years, we have a recession.

It's going to come into play later, and you're going to be, I think.

It's a piece, a puzzle piece that falls in.

You're like, oh, my gosh.

Now, we're currently sitting at 10 years since the last recession, the Great Recession

followed the 2007-2008 financial crisis.

It's been 10 years now.

This represents the period we're in now, the longest period of financial expansion in all of U.S.

history.

That should tell you something.

So in a way, we are way overdue for our next recession already.

You know, but that's, you know, like saying Los Angeles, oh, they're overdue for a major earthquake because they hadn't had one in a while.

You know, it makes for great headlines and everybody wants to read it, but it's not science.

Now, there is a great misconception about recessions, and this comes from the progressive movement around the turn of the century.

It's all really due because of politicians, in part because of the media, and in part because of our general tendency toward finding a

scapegoat when something, quote, goes wrong, end quote.

But here's the counterintuitive truth:

you might need duct tape to wrap around your head so your head doesn't explode when I say this to you.

Just because a recession occurs,

it doesn't necessarily, in fact, it usually does not mean anything has gone, quote, wrong, end quote.

In a healthy, functional market economy, recessions are normal, they're natural, and a healthy process of the business cycle.

Now,

that's hard to say.

I'm a small business owner.

I am also a rancher.

I have a farm.

I know what farmers are going through right now.

We're going through it.

I am a business, small business owner.

I know what it is like.

I know homes can be foreclosed on by banks.

Families are evicted during recessions.

Life savings can be wiped out.

Farmers lose their land.

Ranchers are forced to sell their herds.

Small business owners are forced to cut back on workers, have to lay people off, or they lose their business.

So I have been through that process myself.

It is painful, it is emotional, and it has a real-world impact.

Nobody wants to go through that.

Nobody wants to see anybody else go through that.

It's a hard time.

But that is the trap.

Everything is supposed to be easy.

Well, life is not naturally easy.

When something is truly easy all the time, it goes against nature.

A financial downturn can negatively impact many people.

So

we tend to automatically think of them as bad things.

And so we look for ways to stop them.

That's natural.

But it's wrong because it is going against the natural force.

To stop them, we invent organizations like the Federal Reserve.

That was created.

to stop the so-called boom and bust cycles that we were, you know,

in great pain from.

We had boom and bus cycles.

We had depressions that would last a year.

Everybody would lose everything and then it would start back up and everything would be good for seven to ten years.

And then it got bad.

So what we did is we invented the Federal Reserve.

Did it work?

No.

No.

Two years after the Federal Reserve was formed, the U.S.

experienced an economic depression, 1920, I think it was.

Then, 12 years later, the stock market suffered the worst crash ever.

America entered the Great Depression, and we've had a dozen recessions since then.

In fact, since the creation of the Federal Reserve System, both the frequency and the severity of U.S.

recessions has increased, not decreased.

And you're going to understand why in a minute.

To stop a recession, we create national job programs.

We enact government infrastructure spending programs.

We bail out banks.

We bail out

auto manufacturing, entire industries.

The Fed pumps trillions of dollars into the economy by buying bad mortgages, government bonds, stocks, and failing pension funds.

Yet, each recession we fight makes the next one much,

much worse.

Let me take a quick break and then I'm going to come back and tell you exactly why we shouldn't be intervening into financial markets because it makes things worse and I'll show you exactly how and why

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Continuing part two on our week-long series on the economy and things that you need to know and understand if you're going to weather the storms that are ahead.

I want you to imagine for a minute that there is no Federal Reserve.

Yay.

There's no no legal authority for the government to bail out any person or any industry.

We just have a simple, truly free market economy.

Now in this world that you're imagining now, during periods of economic expansion, investments get made.

People are inventing things, they launch new businesses, they speculate by investing in stocks, banks loan money to entrepreneurs, people buy new cars, new phones, T V's, jet skis, they take out loans to build an addition to their home.

Things are expanding and things are good.

However,

the bank can't

make every investment that the bank is making by giving loans a great investment.

People can't do that.

People who have really good ideas for businesses, maybe their timing is off.

Maybe they misread the market.

Maybe it's a crappy idea.

But businesses fail.

Not every investment that gets made is equally wise or good.

Not every product that is launched or business idea has the same market value.

Investments, whether made to launch a new business or in a given stock, eventually either work out or they don't.

The smarter,

wiser, or luckier investment goes up in value.

and there's a payout.

The foolish, risky, or just unlucky investment lose values and goes bad.

This is not necessarily anybody's fault.

Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not.

You could have an entire society of very well-intentioned, hard-working, and perfectly moral people, and this will occur.

Because not every idea meets with success.

So some investments work out, some don't.

And when the bad or the unlucky investments go bad, they have to get flushed out of the system.

And the capital and the energy which has been allocated to that unproductive investment has to be redeployed to new, hopefully more productive ones.

So, the small business owner who opened a restaurant that just didn't end up being as popular as they hoped has to close the doors.

The homemakers whose

handmade crafts are not selling on Etsy has to close down her website.

The company who invested billions of dollars trying to invent the perpetual motion machine has failed and now has to lay off all of its employees and close their doors.

That's the normal cycle.

Some things are good, some things are bad.

No outside shock or stock market crash was needed, no yield curve, inversion, no war, no drought, or Hurricane Ivan.

There were no nefarious actors or crooks like Gordon Gecko or Bernie Madoff.

It was just the natural business cycle of self-organizing systems coming back into balance and reallocating energy and resources from underperforming activities to more productive ones.

It's how we grow and get better.

There's a setback, we learn from it, we get better.

Now,

let's go back to seven years.

Why does every recession happen, tend to occur

every seven years.

It's because the average business loan is five to seven years long.

So it's as simple as that.

Don't let any economist tell you anything different.

About two years into economic expansion, money is lent out in earnest by banks to entrepreneurs who start or expand their business.

Some of those businesses fail, some succeed.

And because the average loan is about five years long, the businesses that are failing tend to start not paying things back

about six or seven years into the economic expansion.

So banks have to write off those losses.

They lend less.

Businesses lay people off.

The economy absorbs the cycle of higher unemployment and financial slowdown as a recession.

It's a a period usually less than a year where the economy shrinks as bad investment, bad debt, and bad ideas flushed out of the system.

Now, the president of Bridgewater Capital, that's one of the world's largest head funds, calls this part of the cycle the deleveraging phase.

Unsound or unlucky investments have to be flushed out of the financial system, and then a new period of investments and economic expansion occurs.

Now, yes, when a recession occurs, otherwise innocent people are negatively impacted, sometimes severely.

The server at the restaurant, they didn't do anything to deserve being laid off.

She's going to have to deal with not having a job, not having income.

Her children are going to suffer.

Everyone's going to suffer.

The auto worker whose bosses decide to invest billions in that perpetual motion engine didn't make a bad decision.

It was the bosses that did, but they're going to be laid off.

They deserve our sympathy, and I believe more importantly, they deserve our help and assistance,

but not through a federal system.

Instead, as a community, as people, with a social contract that we have with our neighbors.

We help people.

The further we get away from farming, the further we get away from from this truth.

You might be the best farmer, but for some reason, something went wrong, weather, water, whatever it is, something went wrong and you have a failing crop.

The other farmers around you know,

I'm going to help this person.

And they rally around and they help each other because they know some year down the road, they're going to need the help.

And it's a social contract.

It's what keeps our farming community solid.

Now, instead of doing those things, instead of understanding the natural and healthy cycle that exists within a free market economy, which rewards the best ideas with sustained overall growth, we try to create a centrally planned system that will provide for positive growth for everybody.

No one will ever

suffer.

It's going to be great for all businesses at all time.

We tend to believe that somehow this politician or this central banker can prevent a recession from ever occurring.

It's not possible.

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Welcome to the program, the Glenn Beck program.

I'm talking about recessions today, and it's important for you to understand this.

I'm trying to give you a week at this hour of economic

food to chew on because I believe between now and 2030, the world is going to be facing economic collapse.

And even the strongest free market advocate, when they're affected, they're going to rush towards socialism.

If this economy doesn't hold together,

if Donald Trump loses this race, God help us all.

Because you're going to have somebody like Elizabeth Warren, and she is going to use the motherly,

we just need to take care of each other kind of thing, and we will end the free market.

It's part of her plan.

So it's important that we all know what is right and why it's right.

Now, recessions can be prevented.

They can be lessened.

With 0% interest loans,

they can flood the market with cheap money.

It doesn't usually help the lower class, and middle class doesn't really get rich.

It actually expands the distance between the poor and the wealthy.

But financial mishaps can be prevented with government bailouts.

That's what we did in 2008.

Poor investments can be prevented with economic district planned, you know, by appointed committees.

Financial cycles can be prevented completely, now listen to this, by way of the modern monetary theory, MMT.

And this is a new theory.

It's not.

It's a very old theory, and it is, it does not work.

It's magic.

We'll get into this later on this week, but it is where governments simply print money they need at any time

they determine they need it and any level of money.

It is, it's Zimbabwe, it is Venezuela, and it will end our way of life.

And you have people in Washington now discussing it as a brilliant new idea.

So you can do a lot of things.

But what tends to occur when governments and central banks interfere with financial markets is they make the recession

much worse.

So the next recession, you know, becomes a depression.

It wouldn't have happened that way if you would have let it just go and people pay for the mistakes that they made.

It creates a distortion in our financial market by injecting policies and currency and false demand where it would not have otherwise been.

It makes it impossible.

The deleveraging process doesn't happen.

It doesn't flush the bad business ideas and investments out of the system and make room for new, better ideas.

The banks never had to pay for their mistakes, and they are much worse today, even with all the new regulation, than they were before 2008.

Now, I want to show you the worst example of a centrally planned and controlled economy and how it makes things worse.

It's China.

Yesterday, I told you that their debt to GDP is running at 400 and what was it, 87%

to GDP.

What?

We're running at about 68%

of GDP, which means take 68% of everything that we have made and sold and purchased for the year.

Take 68% of that and just add that to our debt.

They're at 400 and negative 480 87%.

They are centrally planned.

They have 13 special economic zones.

Each one has a committee to determine what to build, what investments to make, what resources to mine.

And for years, pundits, the media, people in banking, they all talk about the Chinese miracle, an unprecedented 22 years in a row of GDP growth.

At least on paper,

this is why they have ghost cities, entire gigantic cities with no one living in them.

According to Merrill Lynch, more than 50% of the companies in China are actually bankrupt.

50%.

They are zombie companies.

They're kept alive not because they're able to produce a profit or pay debts, but because their debts are continually refinanced by the central bank in a never-ending cycle of more debt to cover the bad investments.

It's the very definition of good money after bad.

This is why, as I told you yesterday, they had to create $50 trillion

in new currency since 2014.

50 trillion.

So you know, all the currency in print from all over the world today is 60 trillion.

So they almost, they printed almost what every country in the world has in currency.

And half of that went into these zombie companies.

Wow.

Now, what happens when bad companies and poor investments aren't allowed to fail for political reasons?

Well, one analogy is think of forest fires.

Think of forest fires.

We have this knee-jerk reaction when a forest fire occurs.

Oh no, there's a fire.

Something's gone wrong.

We've got to put it out.

We've got to save the forests.

Well, no, now wait a minute.

Hold it just a second.

The forest will grow back.

It will grow back.

It is natural.

Now, if somebody is doing arson, that's different.

But lightning is natural.

We have more forests now than we've ever had.

Because why?

We don't let them burn like

happened in nature.

And we also plant an awful lot of trees.

We all know that it's settled science that fires are a very important part of

the ecological cycle.

It helps keep the forest healthy.

It also removes the older, unhealthy, and dead plants and converts them into a nutritional resource for the soil, and it allows a much healthier forest to grow.

Our continued intervention into that natural cycle of forest fire prevents the dead underbrush and the fallen trees from being removed.

This is why California has fire after fire after fire.

The fire...

When you do that, the fire just rolls through.

It becomes an out-of-control firestorm that destroys the entire forest and not just the dead and unhealthy underbrush.

The credit cycle is the same.

It is the natural way for self-organizing markets to ensure that resources are allocated to the healthiest and most productive ideas, products, and companies.

And when they go out of business, when people learn their lesson and they pay the price for bad decisions, it's painful, just like a forest fire is, but it adds nutrients to the soil of the free market.

So it's good for economies.

However,

if you interfere, it's very bad.

A little spot fire pops up in the economy.

We extinguish it with mountains of zero interest loans, bailouts from government investments.

We are...

We are making it much, much worse.

Our economy is strewn now now with overgrown companies and programs that simply grow the bubble even bigger.

It's happening in the banking sector,

which brings us to presidents.

It is understandable that politicians do not like recessions.

I don't want a recession, and I'm telling you, if the economy goes to hell in a hand basket, which many people are rooting for, it means the president loses this.

And if he loses this race, we become a planned society without a free market.

During recessions, everybody's looking for somebody to blame because we think recessions are not natural, that they're bad.

The president, the most visible politician, he has the most authority.

And so he gets an

outsized share of the blame when, quote, something goes wrong.

And if you look at the presidency since World War II, every one-term president had their first term marred by a recession.

Ford, Carter, Bush won.

Ford probably was doomed anyway because of Nixon, but the trend holds.

Before World War II, recessions also took their toll with

four one-term presidents suffering through a recession or depression.

During the first term, two others were assassinated.

And FDR did break the mold, but he was, you know, he elongated, I think, the worst economy in U.S.

history, and he sold the

people a line of lies that

were just that.

They were lies.

They were not helping anyone.

They were elongating things.

And he did it out of compassion, which can be misplaced.

Trump, however, I think is the most acute case of recession impacting reelection chances that we've ever seen because he has built his presidency on the economy.

He has taken credit for everything.

So stocks are up, unemployment low, GDP growth been solid every quarter.

Top line metrics look good.

He talks about it.

He says, see what we're doing is good.

It makes him vulnerable to a downturn, very vulnerable, especially in this where the media and everybody else is just not telling you the truth.

He knows this, and he's going to be keenly focused on the economy.

Let's make sure it doesn't slip into recession, I think, at all costs.

He and his team are already advocating a Fed cut for interest rates, restart the quantitative easing by buying distressed

assets like farmers that are losing their farms, and we should expect more of that over the next few months.

Now, here's some good news:

everybody in the Fed, they are looking at, they look at themselves like heroes.

They are

Jesus, Neo from the Matrix,

and Ben Bernanke, all rolled up into one.

They just didn't learn anything from this.

They think what they did was save the economy.

And in some ways, they were right.

The Federal Reserve

did reload after the bailouts of 2009.

Central banks around the world did not,

but we raised our interest rates off the 0% level.

We got them up to 2.5, and we sold a lot of that bad debt until recently.

Every time we sold it, the market crashed 20%,

first in January, then in April, then October to Christmas.

And since then, they haven't deleveraged anything.

But they do have some ammo to stave off a recession, at least for a while.

But it will make the next one worse.

Now, here's what we can do:

we can prepare ourselves and our families, our businesses, and our communities.

We can keep what we have in safe places.

We can make sure that we have savings.

And it may mean that you sacrifice something you want today

for, you know,

so you have something when it's raining outside.

You can pay off the debt where you can.

You can refinance

right now into a lower interest rate.

Get those credit card debt.

Get it down.

Get your interest rate on the credit cards from 18% to 4% if you can.

Cut back on all unnecessary expenses.

And I know this sounds stupid.

But I think one of the reasons why we suffer so much today is because we have broken our covenant as a covenant nation every single day.

We have chased God out of our schools, out of our churches, many of them.

We don't have any rules anymore.

We don't believe in truth anymore.

And we were a covenant nation.

We have to start living the covenant.

We have to start behaving like God's people, which means we have to start serving each other more.

We have to start being decent more.

We have to restrain the natural man in us.

And the biggest part of that is getting down on our knees, humbling ourselves, asking for forgiveness, and praying for our country.

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He wrote a great article in the New York Post I read this weekend: Luxury beliefs are the latest status symbol for rich Americans.

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So Rob Henderson writes in the New York Post: A former classmate from Yale recently told me that monogamy is kind of outdated, not good for society.

So I asked her what her background is and if she planned on marrying.

She said she comes from an affluent family, works at a well-known known technology company, and yes, she personally intends to have a monogamous marriage, but quickly added that marriage shouldn't have to be for everyone.

But she was raised by a traditional family.

She planned on having a traditional family.

But she maintained that traditional families are old-fashioned and society should evolve beyond them.

I asked myself, what could explain this?

Welcome to the program, Rob Henderson.

How are you, sir?

Good, Glenn.

Thanks for having me.

You bet.

I really enjoyed your article.

What explains that?

And why is it a problem?

Yeah, well, you know, Glenn, I study social psychology and how people are influenced by others as a PhD student at Cambridge.

And, you know, based on a lot of research, it seems that social status is a key driver in how people think and how we behave.

And in fact, you know, a lot of this research shows that respect and admiration from our peers contributes more to our sense of well-being than even how much money we make.

And so this is sort of how I came up with the idea of luxury beliefs.

And so this, we experience this sort of pleasure to, or pressure, to display our status in new ways.

And, you know, one way we do this is by displaying, you know, sort of our prestige, our intelligence, our education.

And, you know, we do this by coming up with sort of clever and bizarre arguments.

You know, and so one concern that I have is that, you know, the beliefs of the upper class, you know, they continue to change and update as people below them adopt these beliefs.

And so their beliefs, the upper class beliefs, become more wild and more exotic and further distance themselves from ordinary people.

They're sort of constantly updating their belief wardrobe.

So

what is

causing them to do that?

Because in the old days, if you were rich, you might have lived a different lifestyle, like the Vanderbilts lived a different lifestyle, but they didn't want to be known as as

denigrating or or

tearing apart everyone else.

They wanted to be seen as the average, decent American.

What's happened?

Yeah, well, I think

two things might be going on.

One is that

so sort of luxury goods and and having

fancy

items, it's just these goods are becoming more affordable, so everyone can

purchase them.

And another is that

it's maybe not so cool to display your wealth with material goods anymore.

I think a lot of people maybe think it's sort of tacky or it sort of makes people feel bad to if I get to afford this item, but you don't get to have it.

And so both of those things simultaneously make material goods not so appealing.

So a new way that the upper class can display their status is to have these sort of unusual and, in some cases, even bizarre beliefs.

And, you know, in many cases, they hold these beliefs

with good intentions.

They think that they're maybe doing the right thing.

But I think alongside that, maybe more kind-hearted motive is also this motive to sort of display their social class.

So,

give me some examples of luxury beliefs.

Sure.

So one belief that I talk about in the New York Post article is the belief that all family structures are equal.

There's this sort of non-judgmental attitude that a lot of educated people have.

Whether you're a single parent or step-parent or have a polyamorous sort of situation with the parents,

they're all equal.

But the actual empirical evidence is clear that families with two married parents are the safest and most beneficial for young children.

And often it's members of the upper class who,

as you noted reading the article there, that grew up with two married parents.

And somehow these are the sort of

the belief that monogamy is outdated or that marriage is some kind of

an oppressive structure or that all families are exactly the same.

And I think this relaxed attitude about monogamy and marriage, it trickles down to the working class and the poor.

And as you said,

marriage rates between the upper class and lower class Americans were actually quite similar in the 1960s because there were strong social norms in place.

And then affluent Americans during that time started expressing more skepticism about marriage and monogamy.

And this sort of trickled down to the lower classes and eroded the social norms for those people.

But for the upper classes, marriage rates actually remained roughly steady, such that they're basically getting married at the same rates today.

So why the disconnect?

Why the people preaching it

they say this?

Do they not believe it?

You know, that's an interesting question about belief.

I think that many of them probably do believe it on some level, but I'm also not entirely sure how much belief actually matters.

I think that this drive for social status is so strong that people can kind of convince themselves of strange beliefs if it gives them the sort of respect and the admiration of their peers.

You know, if it's trendy and cool in the moment in one social group to say that

polyamory is fine, then people will just say that because they don't want to risk being ostracized and outcast by

their peers.

So help me out on one thing.

How did it become

a luxury

to have some of these beliefs?

For instance, all families are equal.

That really started, at least the way I see it, either one of two ways.

It either started as a deconstruction kind of postmodernism plan

and was planted to destroy our society, or it came from a place to where

nobody wants to harm or say things that makes the single mom,

you know, or the mixed family feel bad.

And so you're like, no, you know, you have a good, you have a good marriage and you have a, you know, or you have a good family and your family is mixed and so that's fine, whatever.

But we, we

can't seem to find it within ourselves to actually go the extra step and say,

nothing to do with you, but if there is a choice,

it's best that the family stays together.

I know this first, I'm a divorced guy.

And from my first marriage, I have two children.

It would have been a lot better for them if mom and dad were still together.

Their life dramatically changed.

There's scars and everything else, which is normal.

That doesn't make me a bad guy or, you know, mom a bad guy,

a bad person.

It's just that happens sometimes.

But we should be able to say,

yeah, but that's the goal to get here.

How come we don't say that?

How come that,

how come, why is that gone?

Yeah, well, I mean, I think the first reason you posited there about, you know, sort of postmodern deconstruction, I think that that's an example of sort of displaying one's intelligence and education.

You know, you can only learn an idea like that in an elite university.

or at college, right?

I mean, you know, ordinary people aren't spending their days reading about, you know, Derrida or Foucault or something like that.

And I think the second reason you said, you know, this idea of like, you know, we don't want to make people feel bad.

We don't want to judge people.

Yeah, I think there's this belief that they're downtrodden and we shouldn't make others feel bad and we shouldn't

sort of elevate ourselves above them by telling them that

certain behaviors lead to better outcomes than others.

So yeah, I think on the one hand, it makes us feel good to have these sort of fancy beliefs about about postmodernism.

And then we also don't want to make others feel bad about their lifestyle choices.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And a luxury belief would be

the one that

maybe comes from you understanding postmodernism and understanding,

or is it just at the level of I just don't want to be ostracized?

And this is what my peers are saying, because they went to college and were indoctrinated with this scrap.

I think both of of those are, you know, sort of key components of luxury beliefs.

And the way that luxury beliefs impose costs on others, you know, first, you know,

the expression of luxury beliefs require learning that sort of complicated vocabulary.

And then on the other hand, the luxury belief of it doesn't matter.

You know, things are exactly the same.

I don't want to judge.

And yeah, I think that there's sort of both of those components at work here

so that

the outcome is that the person expressing this belief is raising their status while also, you know, intentionally or not creating harm for people below them.

You point something out that I think is so good in this.

You talk about the

religion is irrational or harmful.

Members of the upper class are likely to be atheists or non-religious, but they have resources and access to thrive without a unifying social edifice of religion.

Tell me why the upper class is different than the lower class in this.

You've talked about it in your article.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, a lot of members of the upper class seem to have a sort of passe attitude towards religion that, you know, they're non-religious or, you know, atheist or agnostic, and they sort of approach religion from an intellectual standpoint.

But they also have, you know, in their own lives, the upper classes tend to have resources and social connections to thrive

without having to rely on their neighbors or their community, you know, the sort of people who are around them.

And I think religion sort of provides that unifying social edifice so that people can come together and have a reason to care for one another.

And I think that, yeah, denigrating the importance of religion doesn't really harm the rich very much.

I think it harms the poor.

A lack of religion can give rise to sort of meaninglessness and feelings of despair.

Well, whereas the rich, they already have those resources, they already have the access, and oftentimes they find their meaning through traveling the world or through unusual hobbies or even their work.

As you point out, even their profession, they might have a profession, but most people have a job, and there's a huge difference.

Right.

Yeah, exactly.

Most

I only have about 40 seconds left.

Can you just tell me, where are we in this trend?

I mean, you know, fashion clothing goes out of style.

Are we at the beginning of this, middle of this?

Where are we?

Yeah, so it's interesting.

I think that

one

sign that we may be shifting trends here is the popularity of this article in and of itself.

You know, I think that a lot of the things that I point out in that article used to be known as sort of conventional wisdom.

You know, like a two-parent family is good for kids.

Correct.

I'm not sure when that became, you know, sort of an edgy thing to say, but a lot of people now seem to resonate with it and agree with it.

And I think we may be slowly turning the tides such that a lot of people are coming around back to

these more, you know, sort of typical conventional beliefs.

They don't feel the need to, you know, sort of jump on the bandwagon for the for the latest, you know, bizarre luxury belief.

I hope that you are right.

Rob Henderson, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Thank you, Glenn.

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Right.

You know, Patrick is really quirky, but so is this guy.

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People who are like that, so is, you know, so is Warren Buffett.

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I know.

Crazy, right?

When he said it was $30 and now it's what?

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Sometimes you're right, sometimes you're wrong, but this one makes sense to me.

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Do you?

You're talking about his

claim that there was a deep state that was trying to,

there's a strain of FBI people or Justice Department people, not all of them, that he was involved with, that

were asking him to do things that he didn't didn't understand.

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I want to talk to you about a couple of things.

First of all, the FBI seems to be investigating the Clintons again?

Well, that is a good question.

The FBI should be investigating the Clintons again based on the fact that there was a discovery of some highly classified evidence that the FBI never examined as part of its Clinton email server investigation.

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James Comey, you remember all the things that went on with that?

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It's a remarkable thing, the inertia inside bureaucracy, right?

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there is something in these documents that must be remarkably sensitive and perhaps may cause pressure or questions to reopen the case.

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We gave Mrs.

Clinton a pass during the 2016 election, even though there was broad evidence that she transmitted highly classified information on a private server.

She did not get prosecuted then, and we find out that a key piece of evidence wasn't examined.

That always makes us suspicious in the American public.

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I am really concerned that we should be investigating the entire Justice Department.

I don't think that everybody in the FBI is dirty.

I don't think everybody in the Justice Department is dirty.

But there are people apparently that are dirty and will move things for political reasons.

And that is that's not America.

Once we lose trust in our justice system, we become, you know, Mexico or Haiti or whatever.

Right.

No, it's so integral.

And we always expect that whether you're Democrat or Republican, white or black,

live in Connecticut or live in Florida, we're all going to be treated the same when the Justice Department looks at us.

And over the last few years, we've seen a really strong body of evidence that people got treated differently based on their political connections or their political affiliation.

And that troubles the everyday American.

I go out when I'm out and about traveling in the real world.

People will come up to you and say, you know, it feels like there's two justice systems, one today for the Democrats and Hillary Clinton and the other for Republicans and everyday common man.

And I think that perception is deeply troubling and

really cuts at the roots.

of our great democracy.

And I think Bill Barr has an enormous opportunity to fix this Justice Justice Department, put the people that are so good at it, 99% of them are amazing agents and investigators and lawyers, get the 1% out and get this House put back in order so that we can trust the legal system.

Do you believe Bill Barr is that guy?

I think he is.

He certainly has the credentials to do it.

He has shown early on in the Rush investigation to talk candidly and honestly and not use the euphemisms and the bureaucratic Barney that we heard earlier people use in that job.

The real question will come down to: will he really identify the faults?

Will he really punish people?

Will there be real criminal prosecution?

And the next three months are our telling point.

We're going to learn from the Inspector General just how bad the Russia FISA was.

We're going to learn from John Durham just how much spying went on on a political campaign.

And then it will be in Bill Barr's corner to decide who does he punish, how does he punish them, how does he fix this, how does he make sure this never happens to another presidential candidate or another American ever again?

What does your gut tell you?

My gut tells me there will be a lot of shaming.

There will be a really honest accounting like we got after 9-11, if you remember all the mistakes that the FBI made failing to connect the dots before 9-11.

There will be a lot of shaming, a lot of honest discussion about what was wrong.

No more of these euphemisms and spin jobs that we've gotten from the Justice Department and FBI.

I think the threshold for prosecuting a former FBI agent or an FBI Justice Department official is very high

because of the natural inertia in the Justice Department.

I don't think that's right, but I do think that it exists.

And we'll find out

whether the Justice Department is serious if they carry out some prosecutions.

We know for 15 months now, Andy McCabe has been sitting there, identified having

committed criminality, clearly lied, just like we accused Mike Flynn, just like we've accused Papadopoulos.

And in 15 months, he hasn't been charged despite two Trump attorney generals.

So when you look at that case, you have to wonder, are they going to do it?

Now, the statute of limitations is coming up on that, and it's going to be judgment time pretty soon.

If Andy McCabe gets indicted for lying, just like the other people in the Russia case did, then I think people will feel justice is done.

If he walks,

this continuing question of two justice departments or two systems of justice is going to persist.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And I don't think it's just one for the Republicans and one for the

Democrats.

I think it is one for the privileged and then for the rest of everybody else.

That's a very good point.

John,

talk to me about the article that you wrote a few days ago, the 10 declassified Russian collusion revelations that could rock Washington this fall.

Yep, so behind the scenes, there's been an apparatus that the president has been building.

He hasn't unveiled it yet, but it's going to be a special office that's going to declassify and give us true visibility into what really went on in the Russia case, from the beginning origins all the way back to March when George Papadopoulos first met with an academic in Rome all the way through the end of the Mueller report.

Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Sure.

Is this a real office or is this a political office?

This is a real office.

It's going to be empowered with the power of the presidency, and it's going to fulfill the very public statement that Donald Trump made that he was going to declassify this information.

I think a lot of people thought when he gave the declassification authority to Barr that Barr was going to do this sort of public relations declassification, explain all the documents.

He gave that power to Barr so that he could do his investigation.

If the CIA, FBI didn't want to give up something, he had the power to go get it declassified and look at it or share it with prosecutors and FBI agents working on the case.

But for the public, the president has always had a different idea in mind, somebody that could tell a story, explain it all in layman's terms, help us understand what happens so it never happens again.

That office is being set up, and I would begin to, I believe that in mid-September forward, we're going to see the documents be declassified that we've been waiting for for more than two years.

I picked my 10 favorite that I know from all the investigators I've talked to are the most transformational.

And

they range from statements that George Papadopoulos and Carter Page made to FBI informants or on tape, where they were clearly expressing their innocence, and that was not provided to the FISA court, to

really basic information like what was in the FISA and and what was excluded in the FISA.

We still don't know what was in all those redacted pages.

There is a significant amount of very important information that will really rankle Washington in the fall when these documents

get public.

I'll give you one fun one because it just teases the imagination.

House investigators that did the House intelligence review, they had 53 interviews of really key people, most of the main players in the investigation.

There's a revelation in one of those interviews that the Democratic National Committee was in touch with the CIA.

And you have to ask yourself: the CIA has no responsibility on domestic soil.

The DNC is a political organization.

Why were these two organizations talking?

And I think when we get that answer, we'll see just how big a dirty political trick the Russia probe really was.

Holy cow.

All right.

One more question.

I had somebody,

a very

well-known, big business person who wrote to me and said, Glenn, Patrick Byrne is out of his mind, insane.

And I know Patrick.

He is different.

He thinks differently.

He's a libertarian.

But I don't think he's dishonest.

Have you looked into this stuff with Patrick?

Are you heard anymore?

What do you think?

I have.

Done a lot of reporting over the weekend after his CNN interview.

So what I've learned is that the original material that my old colleague, Sarah Carter, fantastic journalist, one of the best in the country, reported early on about Patrick Byrne is spot on.

Those are accurate facts, and that her storyline is the accurate storyline of what Byrne did and didn't do with the FBI and what was going on.

There was some soft operation going on.

Now, how much he initiated it versus the FBI controlled him is in dispute.

But I believe the Justice Department lawyers who interviewed Byrne a few months back found him credible and that his timeline matched the other timelines of things that they're finding in the ongoing investigation.

I think his more recent comments, what I've been told by people who are in the know of the evidence, his more recent comments spinning a more elaborate conspiracy of multiple people and the FBI controlling him, I don't think those are going to pan out with the facts, but I do believe there was contact and exchange of information, and the FBI might have been using him as a soft way of probing this Trump-Russia collusion theory, which, of course, has fallen apart very clearly before our eyes.

But I think those are the sort of revelations we're going to get in these documents in the fall.

There were multiple efforts to probe, monitor, spy on the Trump campaign, and we don't know them all.

We think we do, but we don't.

I don't think we know 70% of what really went on in this investigation yet.

This fall will be that opportunity for accounting.

Boy, oh, boy.

I mean, if there's real, if

people are actually looking for the truth, and it is half of what I think it might be,

we have a

government or a justice department that is really out of control.

Not all of them, just some.

There's a strain in there that is really out of control.

I agree.

I talked to this senior Justice Department official who has been in the game, nonpartisan, been in the job 20, 30 years, and he said things that he's seen have shocked his conscience.

And he said, I thought I saw everything in my 30 years.

I think people are beginning to realize that this was a political operation conducted under the authority of the U.S.

intelligence community.

That's something we never envisioned as America would happen.

And we have to expose it, get it out there, punish the bad guys, and then it won't happen again.

I think that's the right recipe for solving what happened here.

I think so too, but I have a different man than I was 20 years ago.

I wonder if anyone really will be punished.

They have the same concern.

We'll have to wait and see.

I think that's a real legitimate concern.

John Solomon, thank you so much.

Executive Vice President of the Hill.

Thank you.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

Isn't it nice to talk to somebody who's actually doing their job and

is not swaying it one way or another, just

telling you the truth?

Following the facts where they go.

Yeah.

It's rare.

Theoretically, what journalism was supposed to be at one point.

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how are you even trying that at this point here she is listen to this jen rubin we should be doing is shunning these people shunning shaming these people is a statement of moral indignation that these people are not fit for polite society.

I think any institution, and University of Virginia, for example, for a bit had a relationship with Mark Short, who is now back with the administration.

I think it's absolutely abhorrent that any institution of higher learning, any

news organization, or any entertainment organization that has a news outlet would hire these people.

It's not only that Trump has to lose, but that all his enablers have to lose.

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Hang on just a second.

Hang on.

So, what she's saying here, I've heard it before, and I just want to point it out.

Could we play this audio?

Same thing.

There will be no survivor.

No,

not yet.

My men are here.

I am here.

But soon you will not be here.

No!

I mean,

Jen, get a new routine.

Yeah, I mean, we're gonna burn down and there will be no survivors.

No, it's a credible.

No, it's a credible point of view.

If I disagree with you, I should shun you and no one should ever hire you again.