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on Lycos that's true Lycos and Metacrawler a lot of people say well Lycos Ask Jeeves what are those it's amazing how that stuff seems I mean that's like ancient history isn't it I know I love throwing in the friendster jokes.

It's my favorite one because if you don't know, it was a social network before Facebook and really.

And before I think MySpace, MySpace.

It was around there.

It was like the one that everyone said was going to make a big run, but never really caught on.

Right.

And we're like, it's like 12 generations ago now.

Like, my references are getting.

It really is.

You get to a point where you're, we always used to make fun of you because all of your impersonations are dead.

They're either dead or long retired.

There's no, there's no active person you impersonate.

All the people have passed away.

Their parents, their children barely remember them.

It's a weird thing.

As they're current, I can't do their voice.

As soon as they die.

So weird.

I can get there now.

So true.

So, yeah, no,

it's a long road, Pat.

It's a long road.

Yes.

Anyway.

I think eventually we're going to get to that point where people feel the same way about CNN.

You're going to make a CNN joke and people are like, what?

What is CNN?

What is that?

If they keep going as they currently are, that will happen.

This is pretty bad.

You know, they did this big gun town hall thing over the last couple of days.

Which I'm sure they thought was going to be massive.

Well, the last one was, right?

I mean, the last one was a big deal, at least.

I don't know how it did in the ratings.

I can't remember, but I think it did pretty well in the ratings that night.

Actually, let's see.

Yeah, so Jake Tapper did the first one, and

it did a little bit better.

So last night

they did America Under Assault: the gun crisis.

aired at 9 p.m., drew in 1.2 million total viewers on average.

Hannity,

who interviewed a Democratic candidate in last place, Bill de Blasio,

3.1 million.

And Rachel Maddow did 2.3 million.

So they only lost.

Jeez.

They came in third place and came in half of second place.

is how many people actually watched.

Jake Tapper's Town Hall had 58% more viewers than Chris Cuomos.

So this did not work very well this time.

Now, look,

it's the same trick they tried last time, right?

You come out and you try to take advantage of a tragedy and you try to ramp up ratings, and that's not a good idea.

I don't think people think of that as

inbounds.

It feels really icky to try to take advantage of something like that.

Maybe the first time you do it, people are like, all right, look, they're trying to get solutions.

They're trying, you know, when you hear the voices of some of these people in the community, I mean, you can make those arguments.

You trot it out again after how bad it went last time when you got to a point where the people that you brought in as guests.

Completely stacked the deck against Dana, who was there to be a spokesperson for the NRA.

Yeah.

And they just tried to bludgeon her the whole time.

And in some ways, literally.

I mean, like, that was a legitimate security threat for her.

Right.

And, you know, luckily she was able to get out of there.

But they did not treat it well.

They did not handle it well.

The biggest mistake they made as far as the actual program went was having the large, loud, cheering crowd.

Because that's not, look, if you're trying to make an argument that you're coming up with real solutions and we care about this and we care about the community, you know, you don't turn it into a WWE event.

Yeah.

And that's what they did last time.

I don't know if they did that this time.

I don't remember seeing a crowd.

It could be that they invited a crowd, but then they heard it was Chris Cuomo, so they didn't come.

That's a very possible thing here, but it did not do well.

Finished third place for their big gun town hall.

And, you know, at some point, you got to pull the plug on the Chris Cuomo experiment, don't you?

At some point, you just have to realize.

I think so, yes.

Yes, he has a famous name in the state you're in.

Okay, that's about what you have with Chris.

I think it's about time to just say, you know, just turn it off.

You know,

sometimes you try things and they just don't work.

Yeah.

You know, you saw a guy, he said, hey, I remember that guy used to be governor, and now his brother's, his dad used to be governor, now his brother's governor.

Maybe we should put him on TV.

And it seems like a good idea at the time.

And then it falls apart.

And you can try to, you know, put it back together over and over and over again.

But at some point, you just have to say, look, this is not working.

And I think we're there with Chris Cuomo, are we not?

Oh, yes.

We were there day, I think, two for me.

But if it takes CNN a little while to catch up, okay, but they should be caught up by now.

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Triple H 727BECK, big headline about the NRA warning President Bush or President Trump

and warning him that his supporters just aren't going to be supportive of gun control.

I really believe that's true.

I think even the hardest core of Trump's supporters would oppose

getting into gun control legislation or gun control executive orders.

And he's seemingly, according to these stories, been asking around with his aides, people close to him.

And he's also said it publicly that he wants to go after it.

He hasn't been specific.

So what does that mean?

He wants to have expanded background checks and

red flag laws.

And he's spoken

some support for those ideas.

But in passing and walking up to a plane, who knows what this actually means?

That being said, when you go after a core belief of

your

voting block,

you risk things, even when you are incredibly popular.

I mean,

George W.

Bush came out of his re-election, beat John Kerry, was incredibly popular.

And this was 05, 06, when he did the comprehensive immigration reform thing.

And so one of the first things he did was to use some of his political capital capital to go after immigration reform.

And that was what essentially destroyed his presidency.

Really hurt him.

You know, there were multiple things.

I'll also give you Harriet Myers as a Supreme Court nominee, which the base rejected.

And

in addition to that, his handling of Katrina really wiped out a lot of his,

you know, he really was known as sort of the competent in crisis sort of president.

because of everything that happened with 9-11.

The war, though, started turning the wrong way.

And then Katrina happened.

And, you know, while the reporting on a lot of that was really bad, and a lot of that wasn't him, you know, screwing those things up, it still didn't help at all.

But really,

it was never a big deal.

People were like, oh, well, his, you know, people lost faith in him because of Katrina.

Well, some did, right?

But it was never a case of.

I don't think a lot of conservatives lost faith in him because of Katrina.

They knew that wasn't his fault.

The difference in his presidency between term one and term two was not that the people in general lost faith in Bush.

It was that his actual, the conservatives did.

Yeah.

Because of things like immigration reform, they were like, look, I mean, he's not even, you know, we'll walk through him with a lot of this stuff.

If he makes a mistake, we're okay.

But like, this is violating, he's trying to do something against us.

Yes.

You know, it was not that he screwed up.

He's trying to do something that we don't, like, he's coming after our core values.

And conservatives were making a lot of noise about it, how much they opposed it, and we don't want you to do this.

Well, he tried to do it anyway, and that did hurt him.

And they stopped it.

And then later, yes, conservatives did stop it.

Later, he also, not only did he still want the comprehensive immigration reform, but then he went after the Border Patrol agents, Ramos and Campion,

and would not budge on that at all until the day he left office.

Those guys languished in jail for a couple of years because, you know, they shot a drug dealer in the butt who, by the way, they thought had a gun and was aiming it at them.

And so that really hurt him, too.

And when he cited,

then he further sided with Mexico

as Mexico tried to stop the execution of that heinous illegal immigrant from 1993 who raped and murdered two 15-year-old girls in Houston.

And he'd been on death row for quite some time.

And Bush sided with Mexico against Texas for that.

Yeah, right.

And those were all huge issues, I remember, for the audience at the time.

And it turned his base.

And that was a violation of

something they believed was a core value, rule of law on the border.

And it was something that really,

I think really was the thing that turned his presidency from what was beforehand largely.

on partisan lines.

You know, certainly after 9-11, he was much more popular than that.

But, you know, it had come down to a a point where Republicans basically liked Bush and Democrats basically didn't.

And after that, that Republican support eroded.

And the reason we bring this up is because when, you know, Trump risks a lot violating a core belief of his own audience.

Yeah, and this is definitely one of those.

Yeah.

I mean, it's a lot of people.

Second Amendment is pretty core for a lot of people.

You know, if he wants to win this election, you know, I was talking to David Harris Jr., who's a, you know, he's on News and Why It Matters, and he's a big social media personality, very pro-Trump.

And

we were talking about this, and he said, you know, look,

my audience is pissed off about this.

David's audience is very pro-Trump.

I mean, he's a very pro-Trump guy.

He loves him.

He's been to the White House a bunch of times.

Like, he is, you know, in that pocket completely.

You know, he is the, you know,

he's a loyal guy.

He believes his Trump is doing a great job.

And he said his audience is doing the same thing.

They are really scared about this.

They do not want him to do this.

And he made the point, and this point is true, that, look, right now they're going to be mad about this, but when it comes down to it, what are you going to vote for Elizabeth Warren?

What are you going to do?

I mean, like, you're going to have a choice there, and that's just a good point.

Yeah, when it comes down to it, he's still going to be a better choice than Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders.

The issue, though, is

enthusiasm.

Some people, you know, look, are they all going to turn out?

Are they going to donate?

Are they going to campaign?

Are they going to be telling every one of their friends how great Trump is?

Or are they going to be like,

well, I mean, look, he's better.

And I, you know, he pisses me off on this issue, but

I'll pull pull the lever for him without all of that extra stuff.

You know, one of the big stories, I think, of Trump's presidency has been passion.

You know, you have a really passionate base that's going to go out there.

They're going to fight for this guy no matter what.

And if you start eroding that, if you start just on the edges,

you can't afford to lose a lot of votes.

This is an election.

Remember, obviously, not that this matters electorally, but he didn't, you know, he lost the popular vote.

This is a, so, and I don't say that to say that, like, oh, he lost.

I say that to say it it was close.

It was a lot closer than memory might serve you if you look at the Electoral College.

Yeah.

I mean, basically, it was about 70,000 votes that were the difference in that election.

That's not a lot.

No, it's not.

And, you know, so you have to be careful, and you start going after Second Amendment rights.

And that might just be enough to take away at the fringe and give us some socialist to come in here and be president of the United States.

And nobody wants that.

At least I don't.

Yeah.

Me neither.

And we've, I think we've mentioned that a couple of times.

You don't want a socialist as a present in the answer today?

I think I have.

It's come up.

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Biden is out there campaigning really hard and

really

impressing people.

He really is.

He's saying some powerful things right now.

Yeah, he is.

He's having his troubles, Pat.

I think there's something about Biden right now where his brain is working at

a different pace as his mouth.

I don't know how to describe it exactly.

He seems off.

He seems off.

Doesn't he?

I mean, even more than usual for Joe.

And you can tell in this particular instance, he catches what he's done almost immediately.

I love it.

And you can hear him try to retroactively act as if he meant to say what he said.

He tries to fix it.

Yes, he tries.

And you give him credit for at least recognizing it in the moment.

But here it is talking about

poor kids

and their talent levels.

Listen very closely.

And the other thing we should do is we should challenge these students.

We should challenge students in these schools to have advanced placement programs in these schools.

We have this notion that somehow, if you're poor, you cannot do it.

Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.

Wealthy kids, black kids,

Asian kids.

I really mean it, but think how we think about it.

Love that.

Poor kids are just as talented as white kids.

And

wealthy kids and

fat kids and skinny kids and kids who climb on rocks and, you know, the tough kids, the sissy kids, and those ones who have chicken pox.

That's so bad.

I'm surprised he didn't just go right into that rhyme because he because he goes, he says white kids.

So in other words, like, I mean, in case you're missing

only black kids, white kids are poor, right?

So, of course, if a Republican said this, it is the end of your career.

Had this been Trump,

it would be the only thing that mainstream media talked about.

Absolute proof only is white supremacy.

Yes.

Right?

If you are not calling him a racist as a journalist tomorrow, you are a heathen.

Yep.

But with Joe Biden, it's just him screwing up, I'm sure.

That's the way they'll spin this.

I would be very concerned if I was a Democrat and thought Biden was the most electable.

Because too many of these things, man, he does this.

He did this a lot back then.

He's getting much, much worse now.

Yeah, he is.

This is a bad thing.

Poor kids are just as talented as white kids.

And then he says, Well, so then he realizes what I should have said is wealthy kids.

So then he says wealthy kids.

Then he remembers, like, I wait, I already said white kids, people heard it.

I better say it again.

Then he goes to white kids again.

Then he goes to Asian kids.

Like, what all I was saying was every group I could think of.

I swear.

I mean, it's bad.

It is bad.

And he just says his mind is not, it's not sharp.

And you have a couple of these moments early on in your campaign.

You can deal with it.

But

the problem is not whether he can keep it all together.

The questions begin when enough Democratic primary voters see this and say, geez, Trump's going to be all over him for this stuff.

He's going to lose to Trump.

Because that's all you have with Biden.

All you have with Biden is electability.

People believe Biden can beat Trump.

So if Biden's electability goes away, there's no reason to stay with Biden.

And I think a lot of people are only with him because of that electability.

They'd rather have somebody

who's willing to go further to the extreme left.

Right.

They'd rather have that, but they just don't think Bernie Sanders can win.

Right.

They don't think Elizabeth Warren can win.

But I got to see this one more time because it's absolutely priceless.

This is great stuff.

And the other thing we should do is we should challenge these students.

We should challenge students in these schools to have advanced placement programs in these schools.

We have this notion that somehow, if you're poor, you cannot do it.

Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.

Wealthy kids.

Asian kids.

If that was strong, again, they would be, we just got a glimpse into what's in his heart.

Yes, he tried to cover it up, but it was too late because he really showed us what he thinks.

Yeah.

And it's in that moment.

And that's that white people are supreme, right?

I mean, that's a white supremacist argument.

Yes.

Right.

White people are.

He's trying to be basically said, oh, I swear.

The other thing I love about this is he said poor kids are just as talented as white kids.

There's one person person in the audience who wholeheartedly agrees with him on this point.

And it's collapsed right away.

Just collapsed right away.

He's like, yeah, somebody finally said it.

Yes, poor kids are as good as white kids.

Wow.

Well, Bush kind of said it a while ago.

President George W.

Just let me make it very clear.

Poor people aren't necessarily killers.

It's kind of the same thing, right?

Just because you happen to be not rich doesn't mean you're willing to kill.

I love that.

So in other words, poor kids aren't necessarily killers either.

Right.

Stu.

Now, they might be.

They probably are, but not necessarily do they kill

not rich.

Oh, man, that's a pretty interesting one.

Priceless.

How many of those do you get?

Something like that.

Every day one of these things happened.

There's another, you know, half a percent of the Democratic voter,

primary voters that say,

I don't think I want to risk this.

I don't think I want to risk it.

This is going to happen on a big stage, and he's going to wind up losing by 10 points.

The other problem are the voters.

I mean, the donors.

The donors for Biden are going to be thinking, wow, is he just losing it?

Can I afford to pump more money into this guy or his political action committees?

I don't think so.

Yeah.

At some point, that will happen too, where it'll cast a doubt on the people who are fueling his campaign.

And then he's in real trouble.

Yeah.

Think of Peyton Manning's last year.

He started his quarterback.

And, you know, he was a great quarterback.

Now, Joe Biden was never a great politician.

He's never won a big race like this.

But, I mean, towards that end of that year,

you could tell he was still like, he kind of knew what he was doing generally, but the throws just didn't have snap on him anymore.

They weren't getting to the targets.

There were bad interceptions.

It looked like he was done.

Now, he wound up winning the Super Bowl.

So maybe that's what happens here with Biden, but it just looks like he's lost.

He's lost it.

He's definitely lost a step.

Yeah.

Or two.

Maybe more.

Yeah.

Maybe more.

Maybe more.

Or 10.

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You know, despite his gaffes, Biden's still doing, holding up pretty well in the polls.

I mean, I haven't seen a lot of erosion.

Have you?

You follow the polls closer than I do.

Yeah, no, there hasn't been a he after the first debate, he did drop a bunch.

He regained probably about two-thirds of that drop in the interim.

Yeah.

He's still around 28.30 now, right?

Yeah, but he was a little higher than that before.

Yeah.

He, the one thing, if you want to look for a problem area in Biden,

a lot of times will, you know, some of these polls will break out the voters who are paying close attention and who are not paying close attention.

So if you break it out like that, people who are paying close attention, which eventually everyone gets to, right?

As you get closer to voting, everyone's paying close attention.

Right now, it's split.

Half of the people who are voting are not even, they know basically kind of what's going on, but they're not following it.

The people who are following it, Biden does much worse among those people.

So that could be an indication of weakness, right?

When people start really watching it, really knowing who, let's say, Kamala Harris is, they might gravitate to her.

She does much better

among people who are watching the election more closely.

So that is a potential area of weakness, but he's still, I mean, look, it's still his to choke.

It's his election to lose when it comes to this Democratic primary.

And he is very good at losing.

So

it is very possible.

We We said this from the beginning.

He's the favorite.

He should be thought of in some ways in his own tier of candidates.

It's really only the only way Joe Biden should lose this election is if he blows it.

But he blows it all the time.

Every time he gets on stage, he finds a new way to blow it.

And he did it two or three times yesterday.

We played the clip where he said white poor kids are as talented as white kids.

That's not a good moment.

Oops.

How about this one?

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Choose truth over something else.

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So, truth over

facts.

Huh.

I don't know exactly what.

He's got a narrow little lane there he's trying to fit himself through.

I'm not sure exactly.

But how do we choose the truth over a fact?

Something that's true.

Right.

Over something not factual.

Hmm.

Is there such a thing?

We'll have to sort that one out.

I don't know if we'll have time to sort it out, though, because we have to go through his long list of accomplishments as vice president first.

Okay.

Now, this is a guy who, with Obama worked to get incredible things done,

massive things

that would just change the dynamic of our entire world, Pat.

So he was asked about his number one accomplishment as vice president, and this is what he came up with.

Say again, I'm sorry.

Your administration had eight years in China.

Well, I tell you what,

we did an awful lot with China.

And what we did with China, first of all, was we got them to join the Paris Peace Accord, the Climate Accord.

We got them to change their direction, and a number of areas in terms of foreign policy.

Wow.

The Paris Accord that we're no longer a part of?

And not only that, the Paris Accord that does absolutely nothing?

Absolutely nothing.

Yeah, but climate denier Al Gore, listen to what he said about Paris.

Even if all 195 nations on 194 met their targets, it still wouldn't solve the problem.

That is correct.

Heck, however, it sends a very powerful signal.

Okay.

That is correct.

However,

it sends a very

powerful signal.

Okay, so we're just sending signals now for trillions of dollars.

Trillions of stuff.

You could throw a good party with trillions of dollars and

a nice signal.

Which is both of those are worth it, I'm sure.

You know, it's interesting because the Paris Climate Accord, if fully implemented and fully followed, which is a standard that does not exist.

These things never occur.

You do not fully follow a climate treaty.

It's never been done.

It's just not what you do

because these countries, some of it is,

absolutely trying their best and failing.

Some of it is, in the case of places like China, well, you just say you're hitting these goals and don't.

How does anyone know?

You're saying, well, yeah, we're going to turn off all the fossil fuel factories.

We've got a new system going on.

Less emissions.

People aren't going to know.

It's not until much later on that they figure out how much carbon you've released.

It's an invisible gas, difficult to deal with on an international level.

So the way this Paris Climate Accord worked was to limit all of these emissions for each country

with these things called INDCs.

Now, NDC stands for Nationally Determined Contributions.

How many

tons of CO2 and other warming gases have you released?

What are your emissions?

NDC.

The I in that is intended.

So legitimately, it is based on something called intended nationally determined contributions.

This is what we intend to do.

That is what the treaty is about, intentions.

Now, it doesn't bind anybody.

It doesn't hold anybody to anything.

It's just, we think we'll do around here.

This is about the level that we think we'll do, if fully implemented with people who got into this telling you, not that we're going to do these things, but we just intend to do these things.

If you got all of it done by the year 2100, if all the science is right and everyone were to participate, it would go from,

we would supposedly save 0.05 degrees Celsius, which means instead of the Earth warming as much as, let's say, 4.5 degrees, it would be 4.45 degrees.

That is legitimately what the Paris Accord does, which is nothing.

I mean, it would make absolutely no difference.

You'd delay global warming by a few years if all of these countries came together and blew up their economies like they would for the Paris Climate Accord.

Not worth it.

This is not something that is.

What about the powerful signal

it sends?

What about that?

What about the powerful signal?

And that is really what they're doing, right?

Yeah, they're sending a signal.

Look, we intend to do something.

We'd like to do something.

Yeah.

We're just not doing anything because there's really,

I think even they know deep down, we can't control the climate.

No.

Try as we may, we can't control it.

We can't,

it's, it's, it's lunacy.

It's lunacy.

So they have the, what they say is we have to, we must stop Pat.

You know, within 12 years, this is going to be irreversible.

Unless you're beto, then it's 10.

Then it's 10.

Yeah.

And by the way, the, of that particular study, which is a different study, but that particular study, the authors of it said no.

That is not what we're saying.

We're not saying it's 10 years.

We're not saying it's 12 years.

That is not what the study says.

Thank you for asking us so that we can keep people stopped saying it.

And then I heard Bernie Sanders.

Heard Bernie Sanders on Joe Rogan the other day saying it again.

They're still saying it.

The scientists from the study have fact-checked this and said it's not true.

And all these candidates are still saying it.

But the Paris Accord, as implemented, would save 33 gigatons,

33 gigatons of CO2.

Okay, well, that sounds like a lot.

Sounds like a lot.

A lot.

How much would you need to stop global warming and all these horrible effects?

Just the worst effects.

That wouldn't stop global warming.

What are the worst effects?

You'd have to save 3,066 gigatons.

So if you'll notice there, it's a higher number.

Oh, yeah.

The gigatons they are saving or intend to save is lower than the necessary saving.

Yes.

So their promises are one one-hundredth of what they say is necessary.

And that's just their promises.

So that is how ridiculous this is.

And it would make no difference.

No difference at all.

Yet that is his biggest accomplishment as vice president.

Class Joe.

That is terrific.

And it's something that was immediately reversed when he lost an election.

The next guy came in and was like, nah.

That's not an accomplishment.

Nothing was accomplished with this treaty.

Even if they stayed in it, nothing would be accomplished, but they couldn't even stay in it.

This is how bad, I mean, he really doesn't have a record.

That's why he keeps saying Obama every five minutes.

And can we bring this up one more time, Pat?

Joe Biden was selected, hand-picked as

the second best person in America to be president by Barack Obama.

Okay?

Picking a vice president is not just something.

Oh, I wanted to win Delaware really badly.

He picked Joe Biden because in his mind, this guy was the second best person behind himself to be president of the United States.

Now they're on the debate stage.

All of these candidates are attacking Barack Obama's record and saying, you suck, you suck, you suck.

The only person standing up for him is Joe Biden, and Barack Obama still won't endorse him.

Think about that statement.

Well,

Joe asked him not to.

In all fairness, too.

Joe really thought it'd be unfair to the rest of the field to get the endorsement for Barack Obama.

He asked him not to.

Would that not be something you'd be interested in, making it unfair for the rest of the field if you believed this guy was the second best man to be president in the United States?

Yes.

You'd want that to be the case, right?

Yes.

You'd want him to win because you think he's really good.

And not to mention, he's the only person defending your record.

And Obama's still silent on it.

I mean, that is a hell of a statement.

I don't know if he thinks, it makes me honestly think that

Obama knows something about Biden that we don't.

Whether it's performance level,

whether it is,

you know,

something

said

potentially.

I mean, or just something he says, an attitude he had behind the scenes that he wasn't aware of initially.

I don't know what it is, but that is a devastating thing.

You're telling me George W.

Bush doesn't endorse Dick Cheney if he runs for president?

Of course he does.

Listen immediately.

I mean, I, I, you know, and look, I can understand at some level saying, well, you're going to hold off.

It's a big primary, blah, blah, blah.

But, like,

the way this has played out, I heard, I was listening to ABC News today, and it is so prominent now that ABC News this morning says, and, you know, Joe Biden,

Joe Biden was with Barack Obama, and Barack Obama was known as the deporter-in-chief, and blah, blah, blah, blah.

What are you talking about?

He was not known as the deporter-in-chief.

Not when he was president.

This is something that's coming around right now.

Like, we really, I was actually thinking, I would love to do, I was hosting the TV show the last couple of weeks, but if I had another, if I had more time to do it, I'm doing it next week as well.

I'm not, Glenn is back.

But I think I would do a monologue in defense of Barack Obama.

And just like, let me tell you,

let me tell you, Democrats, I'm going to defend him here.

He actually sucked on the border.

So don't worry about it.

He was not good.

Yes, he deported a bunch of criminal aliens, and his numbers were high in that one regard, but he was not good on the border.

Don't worry, plenty of illegal immigrants came across.

The main reason those numbers were lower is because the economy was so bad, largely due to his presidency, and what, of course, what led into it, but why it was so bad for so long was because of the way he handled it.

And that led to people not really wanting to come all that badly here.

So yes, some of those numbers went down, but don't worry.

He was really cool about letting everybody come across the border.

Don't bash this guy.

You love him.

It's like they've lost all connection.

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Say what you will about Joe Biden.

The guy is incredibly generous to the rest of the field.

Who could forget his generosity?

Why didn't President Obama endorse?

I asked President Obama not to endorse.

He doesn't want

to.

Whoever wins his nominations is winning on their own merits.

Okay.

All right.

He asked him not to.

It just, come on.

It's not fair to say Elizabeth Warren, if Obama got into this, too, on my side.

Right, because

I wouldn't want to have an advantage in this competition to run the free world.

I wouldn't want that.

That's so ludicrous.

That would be so wrong.

And Barack was on his way.

He's walking up to the podium and I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Okay, Barack, don't do.

No.

Just on issues of fairness.

Fairness.

I want to spread the votes around.

Yeah.

People, you know, you've got a 95% approval rating among the Democratic voters right now.

So why would I want your endorsement?

Now, sure, you're at 99 among black voters, and it's not 99 to 1.

It's literally 99 to 0 with 1% undecided.

But

I don't want your help.

That would not be helpful to me at all.

Now, I'm going to say your name.

In every answer I give the entire campaign.

I'm going to invoke your presidency and try to be on your coattails the whole time.

But no, please don't tell everyone that I would be the best guy to continue your legacy.

I mean, this is just absurd, of course.

It would be game-changing.

I said when I was watching the debate and they were all beating up on Obama's presidency, I was live tweeting the event.

I was like, the best thing that could happen right now, I just want to see it happen, is

Barack Obama sitting at home.

And he's watching this, and they're all just attacking his Barack Obama's presidency.

And Joe Biden's the only one up there defending him.

Just in the one of the, they go to commercial, and Barack Obama tweets his endorsement.

And they come back, and they've got to ask all these people, and see it on their faces that they realize that Obama has endorsed Joe Biden.

Because I know to this audience, Obama's endorsement means nothing.

It means I'm going to vote for somebody else.

But to Democrats, the guy's God still.

I mean, he still is.

Now, he didn't go as socialist as they want today, but that's revisionist history.

And that's largely from the political class.

The average voter who is a Democrat sees Obama's presidency as very positive and sees it even more positively because they really don't like Trump.

So, this guy, if Barack Obama were to come out and say, look, Joe Biden's the guy, he should be the next president of the United States.

He's come over the edge, I think.

It does.

It probably does.

Now, he could still screw it up.

Joe is an expert at this, but it would put him up by another 10 points.

That's a big endorsement in the Democratic primary.

The fact that Joe acts as if he doesn't want it is absurd.

If he didn't want it, he wouldn't be bringing his name up in every answer at every debate.

Right.

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There's a little bit too much urgency in your show.

You're really covering the news of the day.

I like to listen to podcasts from several months ago.

Okay.

Are those available?

Yes.

Okay.

Yes, you can listen to those as well.

I like to just know what's going on.

What was the news of the day in April?

Yeah, we have that.

And we have that.

That's available.

I can get that anytime.

I just don't want to pay as much as I need to, probably.

It's probably too expensive.

How does

$0 sound?

Wow.

Yeah.

Very good.

Yeah.

Very good.

It's an incredible bargain.

It's a good value.

Yeah, normally that sells for $99, $95, $99.

Really?

Yeah.

Wow.

But now

it's 100% off.

Wow.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, you know, Pat.

Limited time only, of course.

I think you might want to raise those prices because I think you're about to be boycotted.

Really?

I do.

I do.

I've been hearing a lot about this.

And my understanding is if you're a Republican, if you're a conservative, you need to be boycotted.

If you voted for Donald Trump, especially.

Well, because you're a white nationalist.

Right.

Right.

Automatically.

A racist and a white nationalist if you voted for Trump.

That is what MSNBC is letting you know.

And I mean, they're just one example, but this is an MSNBC analyst, Rick Stengel, talking about Trump supporters and whether you should boycott them or not.

Okay.

People boycotted apartheid products.

Remember, years ago, you wouldn't buy stock or

product from any company that supported apartheid South Africa.

Why isn't there not that same thing with people who support Donald Trump and their products and their companies?

And there has been with Equinox this past week.

Great.

Oh, God.

I've got a lot of

psycho fans.

Why isn't there?

Why is it the same thing, Pat?

Can you think of, let me,

I'm asking you this, honestly.

You're a smart guy.

You put a lot of thoughts in the thing.

Can you think of one difference between 2019 America and apartheid South Africa?

Is there any

distinction

you would make?

Between those?

Because

I can think of one minor.

Can you?

Because I'm hard-pressed.

I can't.

Do you want me to give it to you?

All right.

Northern hemisphere, southern southern hemisphere.

Okay, that's that's the only thing I could come up with.

I should have found that one.

You know, I mean, it's so close.

Yeah.

It's basically the same policies.

As you know, black people are not allowed to be employed here in the United States.

They're all separate.

Now, some people would note that the black unemployment rate is as low as it's ever been in history.

Some people would note that

and say maybe that's not the same situation as apartheid.

Maybe it's a little different.

Yeah, maybe.

Maybe stealing the land and and raising the people.

And I mean, the destruction that went on in apartheid South Africa, a tad different.

Isn't that the same guy who did the Nazi thing with him, too?

Didn't he?

Is that the same?

Is it the same guy?

I don't know.

I think it is.

I do remember that.

What is this guy's name?

Rick Stengel.

Wow.

Maybe it's a different guy.

Yeah, that guy was...

Was it Fig Liusi or something?

Oh, yeah, yeah, that was a different guy.

You're talking about the HH guy?

Yes.

He said because Donald Trump was putting the flag back up on August 8th, that meant that.

He thought it had Heil Hitler significance.

Yes, because 8-8 is H-H.

H is the eighth letter of the alphabet, so H-H equals Heil Hitler.

Said this on national television, by the way.

This is a point, a serious point made on national television.

Just like this one.

Just like this.

It's apartheid.

And it's amazing.

What I find most amazing about it, though, is not that there's people who are a little bit unhinged when it comes to Donald Trump.

We know that.

It's not people who are unhinged coming against any Republican president.

We know that happened.

I mean, they used to call Bush Bush a terrorist every day on television.

I mean, this is not new.

What I'm fascinated about, though, is just the lack of ability to learn, to learn a very important lesson.

Arguably, Hillary Clinton is not president of the United States because she made a statement about the Donald Trump supporters being a basket of deplorables.

You, of course, remember this because it was one of the biggest things in the entire campaign.

And everyone went around and said, we're the deplorables.

And it became a rallying cry.

And remember, this election turned on three states and about 70,000 votes.

So this is not something that needed to be,

you know, to take over the entire election.

It was a very close election.

And,

you know, I think you could make a sensible argument that that moment for Hillary cost her the election.

You can't exactly tie it scientifically.

Of course, you're never going to be able to pull it up.

But I mean, 70,000 votes was not a lot to move on a statement that well well publicized.

Now, to go back to 2016 for a second, you can make a really legitimate case that what Hillary Clinton said was true.

And actually, you can make a case that what she said about deplorables is true about every candidate that has ever run a race.

In every single instance, every candidate has followers who are, you would put in the category of, I'm proud to have those followers.

And you'd put some in the category of, I mean, I'm glad they're voting for me, but I really don't want to be associated with them.

Right.

And all Hillary Clinton was doing was saying, look, there is a basket of deplorables, these awful people that actually are racist and all these things, and we're not never going to get them.

But there are a lot of other people in the Republican Party who we can get to vote for me.

Right.

There are a lot of those people who are open to voting for us because they don't like the way Donald Trump acts or they just are moderates or whatever it is.

Like the way she stated it was really bad, and I think it may very well have cost her her the election.

However, the actual context of that statement, while she exaggerated it, is largely true.

And it's largely true with every single candidate.

What have they done to learn from that moment, though?

They now are saying there is no exception.

Everyone who votes for Donald Trump, who is a Republican, is a racist.

Everyone should be boycotted.

Everyone should be vilified.

Instead of saying a slice of them are bad, which is what Hillary said, they're now saying all of them are bad.

They have just tripled and quadrupled down on the strategy that lost them the last election.

And they continue to do it day after day after day.

If there was a book, a tell-all that came out after this election, and we found out that Democrats were doing everything they could do to lose by as much as possible, I would believe that it was actually accurate.

It's fascinating the way they are handling this.

They're going as socialist as they can.

They're vilifying every voter that could possibly come

into their pocket.

They are just, they are trying to to lose this and they may very well do it.

Let's hope so

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There is a

A story that kind of would tie into what we were just talking about, about the deplorables, but it is being, I think, completely, completely misrepresented to the American people and largely by conservative audiences and conservative media right now.

There's a new movie coming out called The Hunt.

Now, if you saw, if you watch the Democratic Debates, they ran a bunch of ads in the Democratic debates for this movie, The Hunt.

And

when I saw them, I was like, oh, I'm in.

I can't wait to see this.

Now, I like these types of movies.

It is a movie about essentially people kind of wake up in a field and realize they're being hunted by some other people.

And it's, you know, the way they kind of

explain it is it comes off, the previews are great.

They're just like,

it looks like you need to get away to an upscale experience where it is like a hunting lodge.

It's like a commercial for a hunting lodge.

And then you realize about halfway through that they're hunting actual people.

You know, so it's a horror movie and pretty intense.

It comes from Blumhouse, which is, you know, they've made a lot of the big horror movies over the past, you know, five to ten years.

And they usually make a lot of money.

They make a lot of money.

They cost very little and then make a lot.

Yeah.

And they've had some, you know, some of their movies have been up for Best Picture.

I mean, they've had some real success, and they've told great stories.

The issue here, though, is that people...

And you don't get this from the previews, but the reporting about the movie, they are saying that essentially what happens is the people in the field being hunted

were called in the movie Deplorables, and they appear to be essentially red staters of some sort.

I don't know that it's specific to Trump, but it's some sort of like, you know, red staters, and they're being hunted by like liberals.

And this is apparently like

apparently to somebody, I don't know who, but apparently to somebody, this is offensive on the conservative side.

And because they're saying, well, these people are being hunted, they're going,

this is a bad message to send.

Now, there's been some controversy about the movie because, in the wake of, you know, the shootings and all of this, sometimes these things get rescheduled.

Some places have pulled ads for the movie because, you know, it's obviously a violent storyline.

And this happens, it's happened a million times in the past.

I mean, I can remember Arlington Road.

You remember that movie, Arlington Road?

Had Tim Robbins in it?

It was in the mid-90s, was supposed to come out, I want to say it was a week or two, maybe it was a month or two after Oklahoma City, the Oklahoma City bombing.

And it was a movie about a white terrorist who was kind of Timothy McVeigh-ish,

who was, you know,

setting off bombs and such.

And people were like, I don't know if we want to release this right after, and they wound up delaying it, and it came out later.

So this stuff does happen.

And

there's nothing you can do if you're a movie company, right?

You can't predict the news.

But what I keep coming back to, and I just don't understand how

you could look at it any other way, is that I don't know if there's ever been a movie in history in which this setup is the same.

Let's say that there is a bunch of really rich, evil people that kidnap a bunch of people, throw them into a field, and start hunting them.

Who is the good guy in this situation?

It's not the leaders in the field.

Right, exactly.

This is a movie that I think quite clearly is set up that the Red State team is the good team.

The other people have kidnapped them.

They've drugged them.

They've left them in a field and have started firing without explanation at them in the field.

This is not a movie that is set up to vilify the right.

This is a movie in which you have to imagine the right is the hero of the movie.

Yes.

The people in the field are the ones.

You would think so, yeah.

I mean, I can't imagine.

You know, it's a five-second movie.

It opens up.

They're in the field.

They all fire at them.

They're all dead and it's over.

Like, that's not a movie.

And again, this comes from Blumhouse.

This is the same company that produced the movie Get Out.

Now, Get Out was, I believe, nominated for Best Picture and a bunch of other things.

But if you ever saw that movie, it is a movie quite clearly about white liberals and their racism.

That is what the movie is about.

It is the topic of the movie.

And, you know,

in there, the most evil people in the movie who are trying to do really bad things to black people, at one point, they actually say

he defends his racism.

This is a guy who's, you know, basically murdering African Americans.

Defends his racism

by saying, well, but I voted for Obama.

Now, I'm not saying that Blumhouse is some right-wing outfit.

It's not.

But they are willing to chase a good story no matter what when it comes to politics.

That's what they will do.

And they've shown this over and over again.

Like, it's a really interesting concept for a movie.

It's ballsy.

And I mean, the idea, though, that conservatives would be the one complaining about it.

Exactly.

I would expect liberals to be pissed off at that concept, not conservatives.

I mean, unless the movie takes a really strange twist, I can't imagine the people in the field getting shot at or the bad guys.

That's way beyond M.

Night Shyamalan when it comes to the twist.

You know what?

The liberals, with all the millions of dollars that kidnapped people, they were doing the right thing.

Innocent women in a field.

Ah, that was right.

The end.

Vote, Elizabeth Warren.

I don't think that's how this ends.

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Let's go to Kevin in Ohio.

Hey, Kevin, you're on the Glenbeck program.

Hi.

Thanks for taking my call.

Hey, Stu's absolutely right.

This is President Trump's Read My Lips: No New Taxes moment.

And I would never vote for a socialist Democrat or a Communist Democrat, but I will stay at home.

Let the people have the government they deserve.

I tell you what makes absolutely no sense to me is you've,

under these red flag laws, you've supposedly identified somebody who's a danger to himself or others.

So much so, you're willing to force your way into his home and take his firearms.

But yet, you're going to leave the individual who's a danger to himself or others to roam free.

How ridiculous is that?

You're arresting the gun, but you're going to leave the problem to roam.

And that's a great point, too, especially when it comes to being a danger to himself.

I mean,

you know, you don't, you need a bottle of pills, right, if you're a danger to yourself.

You need a rope if you're a danger to yourself.

If they're that big of a danger, the gun is a very small part of the concern.

As we pointed out a million times, I mean, many of these countries, Russia, for example, has one-tenth the gun ownership rate that we have, and yet its suicide and homicide rate are more than double ours.

Why?

Somehow they're figuring out a way to kill people and themselves, usually with something like polonium-212 or whatever it was.

Sometimes it's very strange nuclear items, but other times it's just, you know, good old-fashioned normal killings that happened long before there were guns and it will happen long after

we're all dead.

That's the way that works.

You can kill yourself.

You can kill others without guns.

That's a great point because you, especially when you're talking about leaving someone,

think about this moment for a second.

You're in a situation where you're a danger to yourself.

Someone comes in and says, look, you're a danger to yourself.

We're taking your guns away.

They leave the house.

The house is now silent.

You're sitting there.

And now you realize that not only...

Are you depressed and a danger to yourself, but now everyone knows it.

The police know it.

Someone's reporting you.

People around you are talking about you behind your back.

You're in a much worse space than you were just five minutes earlier.

That is not a good formula.

Not a formula for success there.

It's ridiculous.

Mark in Ohio.

Hi, if you're on the Klimbeck program.

Good morning.

Good morning, kids.

I just wanted to explain the Joe Biden situation.

I think it's very well explained by a song by legendary jazz artist Moz Allison.

And his song called Your Mind Is On Vacation and Your Mouth is Working Overtime.

That could be the Joe Biden campaign slogan.

I would agree.

I don't know if I can go too deep in the catalog of Moe's,

but that one definitely works.

You don't have the entire works of Moe Z Ellison?

I don't.

Huh.

Weird.

I don't.

All right.

Thanks, Mark.

Yeah, that was quite a musical reference.

It was, but it's, I mean, it's a first.

But yeah, the song seems pretty appropriate.

Because, yeah, the guy, I mean, and it's getting worse with him, as we mentioned last last hour.

Biden's getting worse every day.

Middle-class Joe is breaking down a little bit.

Something's going on there.

Yeah, because you have,

when you go into a big

clutch moment, right,

you know, you have a little rust if you haven't been there in a while.

And this was shown, I think, pretty well with Barack Obama in his first debate with Mitt Romney.

He came out of the gate.

you know, rusty.

Yeah.

I mean, he got destroyed

by Romney in that first debate.

And it looked looked like, for the first time, I think, wait a minute, Romney might actually win this thing.

Except in the next debate, he took his foot completely off the gas and slammed on the brakes.

Same thing in the third debate.

Right.

I mean, he was bad in the next two.

So, I mean, it didn't wind up making a big difference.

But that first debate was, it took Obama a minute to remember what it was like to be in battle.

Yeah.

Right.

Because he had been, you know, he's, he's, yes, he's arguing with talk show hosts and, you know, he has some problems with senators here and there, but it's a different job.

You know, like, governing is different than running a campaign.

And so getting in front of that crowd is a big deal.

I mean, you remember, you know, like Jordan coming back from playing basketball or from baseball.

You know, like he had some spectacular games, but it took a while to shake off the rust.

Now, Joe Biden,

you know, there's very little comparison to Michael Jordan when it comes to Joe Biden.

Like none?

Like, he wasn't good at this before.

No.

So now he comes back, he has this really bad debate, and you say, was that the same situation as, you know, Obama-Romney won, where he's shaking off rust and he's going to get better?

He was, I would say, a little better in debate number two, but the rust is not going away.

And this is a guy who made these mistakes before when he was sharp.

This is a tough road.

I mean, he very well, and we said this from the beginning, very well might not make it through this.

There's a really long way to go.

And, you know, we look at some of the candidates at zero or one, two percent, and we think,

why are they even in this?

But then you forget, at about this time in the campaign, that's where Bill Clinton was.

He was at 2%.

Was he really?

Yeah.

I didn't realize it was that.

Yeah, I think it was like a year and a half before the election.

He was right around two

and just came storming out.

And so it could happen again.

Again, you know, I can't remember the exact date, but I mean, this in the campaign cycle of 2016, Trump had basically just announced.

If you go back to 2016, that's about where we were.

I think he had been, I think he announced in July.

I think it was July.

He announced it.

Seems like, yeah.

Could have been June, but it was not.

I don't think it was earlier than that.

It's one of those things where

this feels like it's going on forever, but we're still early here.

Very.

And, you know,

the first,

you know, Iowa comes up after the new year.

So you have right now from August to the end of the year where you have a couple of debates mixed in.

You have a couple of big things, but no voting.

So you're going to go all the way past Christmas to the end of the year.

We'll come back from that break, and that's when election season starts.

Not campaigning, not running, not debating any of that.

Votes are going to be cast in weeks, and that's where this thing gets decided.

But that's a long, long time from now still.

It's Patton Stew for Glenn.

What a country we live in.

Just a hateful, nasty, racist, xenophobic country where, you know, sometimes people who just happen to come here in a non-documented way

get scooped up in this powerful machine and then churned out and spit out and spewed all over the ground.

I didn't realize that working to support your family was a crime.

I didn't know that humans could be illegal.

Illegal.

No human can be illegal.

In Trump's America,

you're darn right that can happen.

Right.

Because, you know, never before had a president deported a person.

Well, and that now

a few times, but still.

those times

just those two things.

Different.

Yeah, because it wasn't this guy doing it.

Right.

This guy does it in a hateful way.

So they have the biggest single state immigration enforcement action in U.S.

history that goes on the other day.

680 people

are

rounded up at food processing plants and basically arrested for being a human being.

trying to feed their families trying to feed their families

and you know this is shown as like this is look at this proves how bad of a guy trump is it shows how hateful u.s immigration policy is and it's fascinating to look at it because already now we are two days since this occurred already half of the people have been just released half of them have already been released

not deported not deported just released back into the country to do what they were doing yeah why because well you know they're saying well you you know, they have children.

They need to take care of their children.

They have medical concerns.

They have, you know, there's a hundred different reasons why they're being

released.

But, like, this is the most intense action in U.S.

history.

Already, two days later, half of them have already been released.

And, you know,

there's a question here of

how these things occur.

A lot of times, I feel like justifiable actions by the Trump administration are not

executed properly.

They can be a little sloppy.

I mean, this happened a lot more when people like Steve Bannon were around.

And Steve Bannon would come into the office one day and just belch out an executive order.

And it would be like he'd drink too much root beer and he'd burp out an executive order.

And then all of a sudden it would just go into effect.

And people who were like in charge of

enforcing it are sitting around going, I never even heard word one about this.

What's going on?

And there'd be chaos.

And it hurt a lot of those early days of the Trump administration because people like Bannon were so incompetent.

And of course, obviously, Trump became wildly aware of that, which is why they don't chat all that much these days.

You know, Bannon was out for himself, and I think everybody now knows that.

But you look at this and you say, you know, if you're going to release people who need to go home to their families or have medical situations or whatever it is, why don't you know that half of them are under this circumstance before the raid?

So that you're not necessarily arresting 680.

You're arresting the,

you know, whatever it is.

You know, or you have, yes.

You have a way to deal with these situations rather than just because I mean, arresting them and releasing them, what does this do?

Waste time.

It wastes time.

It alerts them.

Yeah.

You know, they can now go to another area, right?

Just take their family, go to another area of the country and pick up another job and go to another food processing plant, right?

I do think that the end game of this, you know, look, rounding up illegal immigrants that that have committed a crime.

This is not just rounding up people because humans are illegal.

These are people that have committed crimes.

In fact, the first thing they did in this nation, the very first step they took, was a criminal action.

That is something that should not just be dismissed.

We do, whether you like the law or not,

you need to make sure you follow it.

I will tell you this.

There's one law that I really, really super duper don't like.

And I would really, really like to not participate in it.

I'd love to avoid it completely.

It's called the income tax.

Not a fan of it.

Would like to not pay it.

Do pay it, though.

Have to.

I do.

I think it sucks.

Otherwise, you might be separated from your family.

I might be separated from my family.

Would they separate American citizens from their family?

Yes, they do it all the time.

Oh, wow.

For crimes,

for crimes all around the spectrum, serious ones and not so serious ones, they will separate you from your family.

That is how our legal system works.

And so

I would say that the real target of these things should not necessarily be, though, the average person working at the plant.

It's the people running the plant.

We've got to make these people who are hiring hundreds.

Look, hiring one illegal immigrant, hiring a few that you don't know about is one thing.

Hiring 700 at a plant is not something that you're doing unintentionally.

Like this is something when you're running your entire operation based on illegal immigrant labor, that is the much larger problem than any individual case.

These companies do need to be punished for this stuff.

Yeah,

it's what I mean when I say

we already have existing laws on the books to deal with a lot of these problems.

We don't enforce U.S.

law.

So you need to secure the border.

You need to enforce U.S.

law.

And just those two actions will take care of a lot of this.

And one of those things that you have to enforce is

employers hiring on purpose

as part of their business plan, illegals, so they don't have to pay them as much.

Um, they're just trying to get a deal, and they're just trying to get essentially indentured servants in their place of business.

And it's wrong.

Yeah.

And we need to put a stop to that.

What's fascinating about that is somehow the continuation of the indentured servitude is the compassionate side of the argument.

Somehow, saying, you know what, we should pay a bunch of illegal immigrants below minimum wage and all these things.

We say the living wage, remember that argument?

It's going to be $15 an hour to these people.

Right.

But it's it's okay to pay illegal immigrants $3 an hour.

Yeah.

That's totally fine.

That's compassionate.

Right.

It's really fascinating.

Somehow they are able successfully to paint a side of the argument that says, yes, continue breaking laws as far as pay goes.

Continue breaking laws as far as working conditions go.

Continue breaking laws as far as immigration goes.

And, you know, these people are living in the shadows.

Continue to let them live in the shadows.

That's the compassionate side of the argument.

Yeah.

So is the fact that we're not, oh, they don't.

What do you mean they should learn English?

Who are you to say what language?

To get along, to get ahead.

If they don't learn English, they will never, they'll always be doing what they're doing right now.

They will never get ahead.

They will always be at poverty level.

And you're just encouraging that.

There's nothing they can, if they don't learn the language in this country, they will never succeed in this country to the level that they could.

They could achieve a lot here if they would learn the language.

But Democrats know that

they can keep them dependent upon them and their agenda.

And that'll keep them in power

if they can just encourage them to do a couple of things.

Keep working in the jobs they're working in and keep speaking your native tongue.

It's not that much, right?

And they're the ones who are uncompassionate.

My recommendation for the United States of America is that we should embrace the English language at least as much as the country of Belize.

If we can just get to that level.

What is it?

What is it in Belize?

Belize, the official language.

The official language of Belize is English.

So

just period, just English, Spanish as well.

Every sign, every document has English on it.

Every place you go, you can read English.

And

why can Belize

adopt the English language as their official language?

And we can't.

We can't be as British as Belize.

I mean, that's

a strange development.

It's okay that people speak other languages, obviously.

And there's no reason that we are a society that allows all sorts of different cultures, and we take the best parts from them to build our culture.

That is really what our culture is.

It's the best of everybody else.

That's why we're so great.

we're an all-star team okay that's what we are we take all the best things from everybody else and and and we combine it into the into the american experience it's great but like you have to have some standards and and make it easy now look in the united states pretty much it is the official language just the market has said that uh but it does it there is a it's so it's easy for us right it's easy for people who speak english it's not easy though for uh someone who is an immigrant here and let's just say a legal immigrant here to come here and say look i i want to participate in this system.

And then we're told that it's hateful for them to learn the language that would help them participate in the system the best way possible.

Exactly.

There's nothing hateful about wanting people to do the best that they can.

No.

And that's what that, if you want to do the best that you can in this country,

you have to learn English.

Yeah.

Unless you're, you know, and you're in little Havana, there are places where you can get away with speaking one language that is not English.

for the rest of your life, probably.

But it's very, it's their little pockets, and then you're forced to remain in that little pocket or you can't flourish.

That's not okay.

And when you turn it around,

it's so easy to comprehend.

If I went to Mexico, I'm not going to get ahead in Mexico unless I learn Spanish.

If I go to Russia, I'm not going to, I'm going to flounder there until I learn Russian.

I mean, it just makes sense.

Yeah, and I will say this too:

you probably can get away with it with English.

Because English is

coming in Europe, you could probably

get away with it.

I mean, if there is an official language of the world, it's probably English.

Absolutely.

And at least at this point.

It's the language in which business is conducted.

Exactly.

It's just like the U.S.

dollar is the standard.

It's the same way with English.

So you can get away with it in a lot of situations.

That's not the case with every language.

And it's very difficult, especially coming to the United States and trying to get to a point where you have to at least get proficient.

You don't have to have mastery per se, but you have to be at least proficient.

I mean, how many times have you talked to someone trying to do business with them and they can't understand the words you're saying in the language you're speaking?

It's really frustrating.

Imagine that's your everyday.

I mean, there is legitimate compassion to have for people who come here and are trying to do their best, and at the same time, are being told by everybody on the left that they don't have to do any of these things that would actually improve their lives.

It's like you're encouraging them to stay in their place.

That's what the left does.

That's exactly what they're doing.

Yes,

that's what they do with minorities and that's what they do with immigrants who come here.

And that's how they think they are going to maintain their power base.

Pat, Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.

Have you been following this story, Stu, about

this guy, just a baseball fan, apparently, who, during a rain delay at a Rockies game last month, went down to their

speed pitch challenge booth.

It's got a radar gun in there.

You can go down there and see how hard you throw.

So he goes down there and starts throwing the ball, and

his first pitch is 90 miles an hour, which is pretty impressive.

Pretty good, yeah.

I mean, the average run-of-the-mill person on the street probably throws about 50 or 60.

Yeah, I mean, I've gone to those booths before, and you think you're throwing the ball hard, and you're like, it's like 68, 72.

It's like, wow, that's like Little League Baseball.

Come on, really?

The next two.

And then, by the way, your arm is sore for a month.

Yeah, you better loosen up a little before you try to do that.

For sure.

But the next two pitches were 94 on his sixth pitch.

His sixth and eighth pitches were 96 miles an hour.

Now, did this guy know he was a really good pitcher or was it?

It doesn't really, but I believe he did know, but one of his friends was taping him and they

posted it.

And two days later.

It's like how everything happens these days.

Yeah, you have to see.

There has to be a viral video where you see the curse.

Right.

And it became a viral video.

The Oakland Athletics just signed him to a minor league contract.

That's incredible.

I mean, yeah, if you can hit 96 without really even playing every day.

At least a tryout.

You got to be on.

Yeah.

I mean, if you want to play baseball.

Now, look, minor league baseball, the life of a minor league baseball player is not one that you necessarily want to choose.

It's hard, right?

Yeah, you're taking buses.

You're taking buses everywhere.

The pay is not super great.

No, it's not good at all.

And so, and it's a tough life.

You're staying in hotels.

You're traveling a lot.

But you work your way through and you get to the majors.

That's big.

Now, you know, you're set.

You're set.

If you get a big contract, you're set.

But even, you know, even for, I mean, what is minimum salary around 500 grand at this point?

I mean, even minimum salary is still a nice life.

Yes.

Very.

So then this guy who runs a,

what is the, oh, it's called Pitching Ninja.

Oh, it's a great guy.

If you like baseball, it's a great Twitter follow because he, you know, posts highlights of, you know, just great pitches, like incredible curveballs.

He'll show you a guy's throwing 102 miles an hour, or he'll overlay a fastball and a curveball from the same pitcher, and you get to see how hard it is to actually hit.

It's real, it's just a cool thing all about baseball.

Yeah, um, last Thanksgiving, uh, pitching ninja posted a video of a guy, some pitcher in the independent leagues, so it's not part of MLB, right?

Not associated with any major league team like normal minor league teams are.

Guy's name was Tyler Grover, and he was throwing 100 miles an hour.

100 miles an hour.

And the Cincinnati Reds saw it and signed him almost immediately.

It's just incredible.

That's amazing.

It is amazing.

But if you can throw 100 miles an hour, you're a definite prospect for the major leagues.

Certainly.

As long as you can put it somewhere near the plate.

Yeah, I mean, if you get professional instruction, and you might need another pitch or two.

Sure.

It doesn't guarantee you're in the majors, but

it's a nice indicator.

Yes, it is.

It is a nice indicator.

Because there's not a lot of human beings that can throw a ball 100 miles an hour.

I'm also fascinated at this phenomenon of how things like YouTube

make real life things happen.

You know, it's like

Bill Cosby is a great example of this.

Bill Cosby

was accused of rape a zillion times.

Right.

And he had cases about it.

He had been accused.

It had been in the news.

And it was nothing.

The guy was living out his ears.

And then a comedian does a rant.

It goes viral.

And now the guy's in prison for the same time.

And you're so the guy's tried and convicted.

Like, I don't, yeah, I don't know if that's the right way for justice to happen, but it happens with so many things now.

If you can get something to go viral, it changes your entire life, and people jump on the bandwagon.

It really is fascinating.

Sometimes, for good reasons, sometimes not so good, but you know, sometimes it ruins lives as well.

Not Cosby, he deserved his life to be ruined, but you know, we've seen with people things like Covington, for example.

There's bad outcomes and good outcomes, but it is a part of our society now.

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

This is the Glenbeck program.

With Patton Stew for Glenn, 888727BECK,

got a new study about sugar being the poison that it is.

Well, it's, I mean, it's, it's a cancer poison or a poisoned cancer.

It tastes good, but it's killing you dead.

And you're going to drop over from it any minute now.

That's basically, do I basically have it?

You do.

A small glass of juice or soft drink a day is linked to increased risk of cancer.

In case you didn't know that, a small glass of juice or soda a day is linked to an increased risk of cancer.

Study finds from the business.

Is there anything not linked to an increased risk of cancer?

Thank you.

Everything is.

Is there anything I can ingest that doesn't do that?

This is like the...

I don't think the answer to that is.

I don't think there is anything that's safe.

Like they had a

one thing they do all the time is they'll be like, did you see that cell phones are linked to cancer?

Brain cancer.

Brain cancer.

And they're like, the UN has said that it is possibly carcinogenic.

And you're like, okay, well, that sounds pretty bad.

Until you realize that the UN has, I think, tested 300 different substances through this program.

And they have, how many have they decided are not carcinogenic?

None.

None.

Literally not one of them.

They have come up with

300.

Right.

Wow.

Because, I mean, who knows?

At some dosage, right?

Who knows?

Like, things like pickled vegetables, for example, are possibly carcinogenic, according to the UN.

It's like to that level.

Every single thing that pops up is possibly carcinogenic.

Now, what if I eat just raw kale?

Raw kale.

Well, that's possibly suicidal.

You'll kill your sugar.

You're right.

You will kill your car.

That's going to kill you just from the taste.

Yes.

I don't know if they've tested kale or not.

I do have a really good recipe for kale.

Okay.

You put coconut oil in a pan, you know, and then.

Some of these are really good, actually.

How does it work?

It's just like a drizzle?

Yeah, like a drizzle.

Yep.

And then you just kind of swirl it around.

Sure.

And then you put the kale in the pan with the coconut oil.

High heat?

No, you don't even turn on the heat yet.

Then you take the pan

and you put it over a garbage can, and then the kale slides off right into the garbage really quickly.

And it doesn't even stick to the pan at all because I put that oil in there.

Because a lot of times I have that issue where the kale leaves are still on there.

I got to wash it off.

It takes a while.

It's like icky because you have to touch them and stuff.

You don't have to do this with my recipe.

Oh, wow.

So that works pretty well.

I got to try that when I get home.

Would you put that out on your Twitter feed, that recipe, just kind of so we can walk people through it?

I think that would be really nice.

Another one, cancer risks should not be sugar-coated.

Do you see what they did there?

Oh, wow.

Do you see what they did there?

I do.

A new study points to a possible link between higher consumption of sugary drinks and increased risk of cancer.

Then you get soda and fruit juice linked to cancer and major study of sugary drinks over and over and over and over again.

If you saw these, if you have had hassles from family members that have now said you could never have another cookie or another glass of soda in your life.

Or juice.

Or juice.

Yeah.

Right.

If this has happened to you, it's interesting to look a little bit deeper into what the study actually says because

if you think political reporting sucks in this country, and I do, you wouldn't even imagine how much worse health and science reporting is.

It is, because, you know, at least in political reporting, like if

someone comes out and says something about Republicans, right, Republicans will at least fight back against it.

They'll at least say, wait a minute, no, that's not true.

Here's our argument.

With health and science stuff, there's not really, like, you know, the only people who make any noise about this stuff are like the corporation that sells you the soda.

Like, they're the only people who come out and say, wait a minute, actually, like, like, look at the study, and no one believes them, right?

No one's going to believe them because they're the ones selling you the soda, and they think, oh, well, there's a profit motive there, and not these pure scientists that are just saying this.

And I will say, largely, it's not even a problem with the scientists.

A lot of times, I think we say, oh, the scientists give us these crazy studies.

We always say this about like, oh, first it's butter is bad for you, then margarine is bad for you, and then it's none of it's bad for you, then all of it's bad for you.

Well, what really is true about that is the reporting on those things suck.

It's not the studies.

Largely, it's the reporting on it that makes you the reporting presents it as if the study says butter was bad and now margarine is bad and now butter is good and now margarine is good.

When you look at the actual studies, a lot of times what you find is it's very nuanced.

It says things that probably are true.

It doesn't make one of the two things the devil and the other thing God, like the reporting does.

So we'll come back here in 60 seconds and we'll go through

if your wife or your husband has said,

hey, you can never have another glass of orange juice because you're going to die of cancer, we'll give you the truth here in 60 seconds.

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So the study about sugar and cancer involved 100,000 people.

They asked them a bunch of questions about

the survey.

It's a big one.

Yeah, it's a big one.

It has some credibility to it.

They monitored them for a decade.

So 100,000 people in France monitored over a decade.

That should be a solid study.

Yeah.

Now, it's an observational study, and observational studies are different than the highest levels of scientific study.

Like when you have the blind studies and like there's sort of a hierarchy of scientific studies.

Yeah, control group.

Did they do all that or not?

No, so this is an observational study.

It's a

basically we would say it's a lower quality study, though large.

They split the people into the groups of how much sugar they drank, either from juice or sugar-sweetened beverages.

This is just drinking sugar.

This isn't ingesting sugar through like candy bars or cake or whatever.

Which is a major thing.

Yeah.

If you happen to be a person who drinks a lot of water, but then nine slices of cake a day.

That's me.

Right.

Well, not nine slices of cake.

Or nine sales.

There's going to be some pie in there, too.

You want to spread it around among all baked groups.

And we can't leave out ice cream.

That'd be ridiculous.

Ridiculous.

So researchers found that people who drank more sugary beverages were about 20% higher risk of cancer, which is pretty significant, a 20% higher risk.

They also found that drinking just a little bit of soda, like one bottle of Coke per week, could increase your risk of cancer.

What?

And this includes fruit.

One Coke a week

increases your risk of cancer.

And you just click on the story.

You're just a guy

who ingests 15 a day or whatever.

Randomly, are you saying this generally?

Yeah, I'm just generally

taking it a guy who might drink, let's say, Diet Coke.

Okay, well, hold on.

We'll get into that because

what I'm fascinated is Pat just did the thing

that people do with the meeting to why they write stories like this.

Wait, just one soda?

I'm going to get cancer?

Yeah.

Click, share, it's retweet.

And that's what happens and why they write the stories like this.

And you're saying that's.

Let me give you the actual perspective.

And look, there there is something here, but let me tell you what it is.

Okay.

First of all, a few issues with the study.

The first thing to notice: cancer isn't one disease.

Cancer is a huge group of conditions that we lump together.

They looked at a whole range of different cancers, including pre- and post-menopausal breast cancer, prostate cancer, lung cancer, and bowel cancer.

And while there was an increased risk from drinking sugar for all cancer, it was only true for one specific subtype, pre-menopausal breast cancer.

So

the idea being that every other type of cancer, it didn't show any increase at all.

It only showed an increase in premenopausal breast cancer.

Now, right off the bat, you think to yourself,

you know, is it possible that drinking sugary drinks?

And I'm thinking I probably don't have a risk for premenopausal breast cancer.

I feel like it's my first feeling, and I'm going back to juice.

Right off the bat, you're going to eliminate a bunch of people here.

I don't want to go into identifications here.

I'm nervous about attacking people.

I don't want you to tell you how you identify.

But, you know, like, for example, if you happen to be post-menopausal, drink up, right?

There was no increase there, no increase for any of these other cancers, just premenopausal breast cancer.

And I find it interesting too that why they are different in some ways.

Pre-menopausal breast cancer, huge effect.

Post-menopausal breast

cancer, no effect.

Now, look,

they're a little different, but still, you'd think they'd at least be some effect for both.

Okay.

So it found no increase from any of these other cancers.

The absolute risk, and this is the biggest thing you'll find in these studies more than anything in the world to look for when you look at health and science reporting is this.

The difference between relative risk and absolute risk.

Every headline will tell you what the relative risk is.

Relative risk is different than absolute risk.

So here's the difference.

They say

there was about a 20% increase in the incidence of cancer.

Sounds really scary, and it does sound really scary, but the absolute risk is about 1%.

So to put it another way, when they say, okay, it's about a 20% risk in cancer, this is how this works out.

On average,

the people who had the lowest incidence in the study, three out of every 100 people had these effects of cancer.

Okay.

With all, if you were to go to the highest risk, which is, I think, four sodas a day, okay,

that gets it to four out of 100.

So it was three out of 100 with no soda.

If you drink four sodas a day, it goes to four out of 100 chance of getting cancer.

Wow.

So it's not a 20%.

People think 20%, like you're going from 3% to 23%.

No, it's 3% to 4%.

It's a little bit, there's fractions in there, but that's the basic thing.

So there's a slight uptick, and you wonder over 100,000 people if they can really measure that accurately.

Because there's other things that go on.

This is an observational study.

First of all, it's people just telling doctors how many they have.

They're also not looking at any of the rest of what they're doing.

Well, yeah, exactly.

They try to control for some of it.

So some of it, like when it comes to income and there's certain parts of it.

But like for example.

Are they looking at what else is in their diet, though?

I think

partially they are.

The interesting part about that is when you talk about an observational study, I come in, Pat, you're Dr.

Pat, and I come in and you say to me, hey, Fatso,

how many sugars how many sugary drinks you have pretty good bedside manner obviously yeah you're pretty you're really not the best doctor um you're a little really yeah um and you say hey fatso uh you look like crap today how many sodas have you had and i say uh two

and then i go home and have nine or i go home and have none there's no way you know that you're actually measuring what i'm drinking i'm just telling you and think about this is like a visit you know once a year i'm like well i've been having about two per week like

how many sodas do you have per day day, per week?

How many glasses of juice?

If you had to estimate that now out of nowhere, you wouldn't be able to do it accurately.

So that, and that's just one of the things.

The false reporting is a major problem in these studies all the time.

But it's entirely possible, even likely, that some other factors might be causing both the cancer and increased sugar drinking.

For example, we know that wealthier people drink fewer soft drinks.

And we know that we also know that they are at reduced risk of many cancers.

So being rich might be confounding the relationship between cancer and sugar drinking.

And that's just one of the examples.

They try to control for these things, but

they're doing estimates.

That's kind of a strange thing, too.

Since when do rich people not drink soda?

Is that a thing?

Is that really a thing?

Again, it's on average, so some people do.

But I think a lot of times you find that wealthier people wind up spending more time on their health.

You know, they spend more time going to the gym.

They spend time, you know,

they'll afford the organic, you know, salad that, you know, maybe instead of McDonald's, right?

Like, there's some of those things that wind up being being true over long periods of time, but they're not universal.

Yeah.

Point is, though, again, basically, like, if this study is right, and there's a million questions about it, and it's not the highest quality of study, if it's right and you drink all the soda you want in your entire life, they're saying there's it goes from a 3% chance of getting pre-menopausal breast cancer to a 4% chance.

Now, look, as a person who loves soda, and I should give you this because you did mention it, Pat.

Everyone who writes these crazy things about

these headlines, they say like every these are sites that live off of this.

Cancer, you know, it's cancer scare websites are an entire industry.

And one of the things they always fear monger on is artificial sweeteners.

They're always saying those things are going to give you cancer all the time.

And they all put this study about sugar giving you cancer in their headlines.

What they don't put in the headlines is this part of it.

Even fruit juice was associated with an increased cancer risk.

The only safe option aside from water were artificially sweetened drinks, which were not associated with any health issues in this research.

Any

and that's been so like saccharine or

aspartame, any of that, Splenda, any of them.

Wow.

There's no effect at all.

Now that's very consistent with scientific research over a multiple decades.

But these sites that would praise this if it showed that there was an artificial

sweetener increase in cancer, that would be all over every freaking news source.

That gets buried in paragraph like 90 if it's mentioned at all in the studies

stories about this bottom line is

you should not be worried about how much sugar you drink and if it affects your cancer I know as a person who loves soda if this said to me and it was completely true if I had 12 sodas a day it would increase my cancer risk by one percent I'd still have 12 sodas a day I like soda that much you would right

you gotta it's better it's better to have the information you can actually make decisions and not freak yourself out I feel like people just beat themselves into the degree panic constantly about what they can and can't eat, what they can and can't ingest, when they have to sleep at certain times and get up at certain times and do all of these crazy things and take 9 million pills.

And it's like, guys, like the human body is relatively

resilient.

You know, you don't, you know, try not to dip yourself in a vat of acid.

You'll probably be fine.

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You know, I love hearing these

surveys, these studies that they do because things have just been accepted for so long.

It's just accepted that sugary drinks, you know, give you cancer or whatever.

It was just accepted for so long that salt is killing people through high blood pressure.

And then that's one I even bought into.

I always thought salt was really, was really bad.

And the amount of scientific evidence on that is minimal to none.

I mean, like, it's, yeah, it really doesn't seem to have any negative effects at the amounts that we consume it at.

And also,

there is a real risk of eating too little salt.

Yeah.

The guidelines, if people, if you cut your salt back too much, it actually has negative health effects, which is amazing.

It's crazy.

It's a lot of money.

You'd never guess that.

You'd never, the way people talk about salt.

You'd never guess that.

And you mentioned butter, the butter-margarine debate.

I mean, now it seems like I remember when I was growing up in the 70s, margarine was the thing.

Nobody ate butter because it was so bad for you.

And then all of a sudden, I don't know, late 80s, early 90s, butter.

No, butter is natural, and that's way better than all the chemicals that are in the margarine fruit.

It's so bizarre.

I mean, first of all, you find out that most, most anything.

I mean, I'm not saying like, you know, certain poisons.

I wouldn't put polonium-212, which I keep bringing up.

That in any, in any amount is pretty bad.

But, like, most of this stuff is going to be fine for you if you have it in

small amounts.

Yeah.

The issue, I think, I mean, now we're to the point, you bring up butter and how it was, like, the devil for a really long time.

And eggs were eggs.

But, you know now

the people who tell you how to be healthy and the health mark you know like the health sort of the diet sort of complex that exists um you know when you know a lot of it's now low carb and they have these things and this is a real thing where they tell you to

people are putting butter in their coffee in their butter

in their coffee what is it called bull bullet uh there's something there's they have a name for it i can't remember the name of it doesn't what is it

no i don't think so.

It doesn't sound good.

First of all, it sounds to me to be.

I mean, I think coffee is disgusting.

I'm not a coffee drinker either.

I don't understand it.

But a lot of people do.

Bulletproof coffee is what they call it.

And they're taking scoops of butter and throwing it in the coffee.

That's really weird.

Now, I don't know.

Maybe that makes coffee bad.

Instead of cream?

I guess instead of cream, you're putting butter in it.

Which is kind of...

It kind of makes sense when you think of it in that way.

Yeah.

But also, it doesn't make much sense to me.

Wow, that is strange.

Yeah, they have all these things.

Like the coconut oil thing was another big one they had for a while.

Like coconut oils, that's healthy.

That's healthy.

And like this, the doctors and scientists came out and they're like, guys, this is like one of the worst things you can eat.

Now, look, is it natural?

Sure.

What does that mean?

It's like basically 100% pure fat.

So if you think, if you want to have, look, it tastes good.

And I have no problem eating a little bit of

coconut oil if it makes it, I mean, because sometimes it makes food taste really good.

I like coconut oil.

oil at times, yeah, but like, don't act like it's healthy.

Like, people just try to find the thing, what seems least healthy.

Let's write a book about how it's healthy, and then it'll sell a million copies.

Like, I don't know, is coconut oil healthy?

I mean, I, and that was the thing, Glenn went through that celery thing for a while.

I don't think, I don't know if that's still happening, but he had the guy on who was like, hey, I magically conjured the celery is solving all these diseases.

And you're like, wait a minute, I

you're not even saying doctors back this up.

You're just saying that you heard, like, you're you had a medium connection to some spirit that told you that celery is better than what doctors think it is.

Seriously, that was the connection?

Yeah, and you're like,

And Glenn went along with that?

Like, well,

let's put it this way: I think Tanya wanted him to eat something that was a vegetable.

That's my impression of that entire incident.

But the bottom line is,

Glenn did eat a piece of celery at one point over the past year, and I'm sure all the health benefits came through.

I'm sure,

Right?

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

Almost for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's Pat and Sue.

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So we had some dummies going into Walmart's yesterday and the day before.

I don't know what the point of it was for this guy to dress up in, I think he had body armor on.

He had camo.

he had multiple firearms,

an AR-15 strapped around him.

He had a hundred, and they were all loaded.

He had a hundred rounds of ammo, and he gets a shopping cart and starts filming himself walking around Walmart like that.

Now, I don't, are you making a point?

Are you just trying to get YouTube views?

Are you making a point about how I can do this, so I'm going to?

What a dumb thing to do.

Yeah, a lot of we've seen this a few times with like people who are Second Amendment activists who think it's a good idea to

go out there and show that they legally can do, you know, carry a gun that's going to scare a bunch of people around.

Not a good time for that.

Not a good place for that.

You do have legitimately, and this is not right, but you have a legitimate chance of getting yourself killed doing that.

Yeah, you do.

That's not appropriate.

It's not the right thing.

You should be able to do these things.

Well, somebody might think because it just happened in a Walmart that you're a threat and there might be a security guard or an off-duty cop or whatever that takes him down.

Now, there is an argument to be made.

And it's just stupid.

And they've made these arguments before, which is basically like, because no one does it, people

see guns as foreign scary items.

Yeah.

Because they don't see it in their normal lives.

So they freak out when they do.

And there is a point there.

However, the way to make that point is not to carry around, you know, weapons in Walmart to just in an obviously...

Right after 20 people were murdered.

Right.

And then obviously, like, you know,

they're trying to incite a reaction there.

Yes, they are.

And probably, you know, you're lucky the reaction isn't someone thinking you're trying to kill people and shooting you in the head.

Yeah.

I mean, you could legitimately die trying to do something like that.

For YouTube views, not worth it.

As it was,

the manager pulled the alarm.

They emptied out the store.

As the guy was leaving out a back door, an off-duty fireman who was armed held him at gunpoint until cops got there and arrested him.

And he did not necessarily commit a crime.

No.

No, so they may find out that he's not, you know, maybe, but still, is that the day that you want?

Is that your afternoon?

You go to the police, you go to the police station, you answer a bunch of questions.

They think you're about to murder people.

They eventually, let's say, if everything goes well, say, okay, it looks like you weren't.

You were just making a point on the Second Amendment.

You can go home, and now it's 9 p.m.

Like, that's your best case scenario for the afternoon.

Yes,

nobody got hurt, so thank goodness.

Uh, by the grace of God, nobody did get hurt.

Thank God, but yeah, why, why

would you do that at this particular time?

It's just, that's not worth it.

I don't think it's worth it.

Also, there was another guy who walked into a Walmart.

This one was in Port St.

Lucie, Florida.

He went up to the counter where they sell the guns, and he asked the clerk, what can I buy here that will kill 200 people?

And the clerk says, that's...

really not funny.

And he said, right, what can I, I know, what can I buy here that will kill 200 people?

So then they also pulled the alarm on that store and emptied that one out.

He was just an anti-gun nut, trying to make another point on the other side.

Listen to what he had to say afterwards, as a matter of fact.

Yes, what I did last night in Walmart was in poor taste.

You think?

I'm a

long-time gun violence prevention activist.

And I'm here back home in Port St.

Lucie, the same town where Omar Mateen purchased his guns to do the Pulse

the Pulse massacre.

And I'm in a Walmart just a few days after El Paso and I'm seeing a white nationalist looking guy

purchase a gun.

Okay, so he's seeing a white nationalist looking guy.

You know, because white nationalists we know, Pat, are bad because they judge people by their appearance.

That's how we know white nationalism is bad because they're looking at just the color of a skin

and judging them.

That's how when I see someone who looks like a white nationalist, I judge them immediately by the color of their skin.

Which is obviously what this douche did.

Unbelievable.

It's just unbelievable.

I mean, it's probably not time for stunts.

No.

Can we say that on either side?

Not a good stunting time.

It's not a good time for a good old bit at a Walmart.

Right.

They're a little sensitive about those things at this particular moment.

Right.

And maybe this is a time to just be a freaking normal human being.

Is that even an available option for some of these people?

And maybe we could have a, I don't know, a healing period.

What would that be like if we just got along, tried to get along with each other?

I mean, I know it's difficult.

Yeah, I know there's a lot of divisiveness,

or as you know, they would say it on the meet in the media now, divisiveness.

There's a lot of divisiveness going on.

Yeah.

Because the root word of

divide is now divided, I guess.

It is divided.

It is divided.

Yes, so that's confirmed.

All right.

So

it would just be nice if we could just, you know, work together as human beings, figure this out, and not do these stunts.

Because the stunt on the one side with the guy heavily armed going through a Walmart, that's just going to give cannon fodder to the other side.

Conversely, this guy does the same thing for us.

I mean, it's just ridiculous on both ends.

Yeah.

Just ridiculous.

It's just a tough one because, you know, there was a time in which we would not rush to this this nonsense.

Yeah, well, that time's long gone.

It's just long gone.

I mean, it's and you know, the Rama manual, Never Let a Crisis Go to Waste, is the perfect summary for the era we live in.

You know, as much as I thought that was a really despicable sentiment at the time, you realize how central it is to everyday life in Washington, D.C.

Even before

the situation has been resolved, they're already politicizing it.

I mean,

I don't even know if the killer had been apprehended at the Walmart in El Paso before we started seeing the tweets and things from the left about how we need to get the guns.

And it's

not Trump's fault.

You know what, Pat?

Thoughts and prayers aren't enough.

Right.

Like that, right?

See that stance I just took?

Booyah.

Boom.

That's what happens.

I just put it in your face.

When you decided to think about the lives of the victims' families and pray for them, I put it right in your face.

Yeah, yeah.

I stuck it in your face, and now you'll think twice next time about thinking.

Next time your thoughts are entering your brain, you'll think twice uh i mean before i even get to a prayer

prayers or alpha completely um kamala harris really did that this week she she she actually said no more thoughts and prayers which is fascinating it used to be thoughts and prayers aren't enough now it's no more thoughts and prayers so they do not want you to pray but they also don't want you to think neither one of those wouldn't that be wonderful for the for the progressive government in this country if we just stop praying and thinking about everything because that really is what gets in the way yeah you know this would be so easy if it wasn't for you crazy kids.

This would be so easy if it wasn't for your thinking and praying.

It just keeps getting in the way.

We want to do all these amazing things for you, but you just keep thinking and praying your way out of them.

It is amazing that that has become a legitimate point.

And I think it falls into something we talked about earlier today, Pat, about not learning your lesson.

from 2016 about deplorables.

You know, back then, we kind of covered this earlier in the program, but

Hillary Clinton made a a speech about, and she said, some of these Donald Trump supporters are deplorable.

They're in the basket of deplorables, racists and anti-Semites and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And of course, you can make that statement and actually be accurate about every candidate that has ever run a race.

There's always people that vote for a candidate that are awful.

Because there's people who do everything that are awful, right?

Every place you go, every day, you're going to run into somebody who's kind of terrible.

And so this is not an amazing observation, but it may have been enough for her to actually lose this race.

It pissed people off.

Stop calling us deplorable.

What are you talking about?

We're not racist.

We're not doing these things.

And because of the impression, just the impression, because it's not what she said, just the impression that she was calling all of Donald Trump supporters deplorable, she specifically was making the case that they weren't all that way.

She was saying, look, some of these supporters are deplorable, but you know, there's a lot of other people who are regular Americans and are worried about the economy, and we need to make sure we're speaking to them.

That was her point.

The Democratic Party, instead of learning learning the lesson of we better not just call a bunch of millions of people deplorables,

instead, now the Democratic Party is calling everyone who supports Donald Trump a racist.

It's not enough to just say that they have problems or they might even be deplorable for a multitude of reasons.

No,

all of them are racists.

It's the exact opposite lesson that they're learning.

And I think the same thing with

the thoughts and prayers thing.

It's like instead of saying like we respect the fact that there are a lot of people of faith who disagree with with us on guns.

And while we think the best thing to do is government action to massively control firearms, we also can recognize that the overwhelming percentage of people that own guns don't commit crimes, that they're good people.

And, you know, we are just trying to stop the worst of these incidents.

Instead, it's, gosh, you bastards.

You don't want to do anything.

You want these people to die.

All you keep throwing out these fake prayers with your fake sky god and boomsticks.

And it's like that is

they are learning the opposite lesson.

They are doing everything they can to tell the average voter in the middle in Michigan, don't vote for us because we hate you.

You know, you voted for Trump in 2016.

We despise everything you stand for.

Make sure you don't come to us in 2020.

That might like this is a dream for Donald Trump.

The fact that they have this giant primary and they're all falling over themselves to see who can be most socialist and offensive to religious people is a great, a great thing that is going on for Donald Trump's campaign.

The fact that the Democrats can't recognize that is mesmerizing.

It's watching them all light their electoral hopes on fire in real time.

This is not an unwinnable race for a Democrat.

The economy is really good, but I mean, Trump has issues.

He's at 42 and 43% approval rating.

With the economy looking like this, it should be higher.

He has his issues, and a good candidate running a race that made sense would have a chance against Donald Trump.

The way they're doing this now, yelling at you for praying for murder victims, crazy, it's crazy.

And you know what?

Keep the crazy going as far as I'm concerned.

So, Andy No, who is the guy who was

beat up by Antifa in the streets of Portland a little while ago?

We had him on the program.

He's a journalist, not a hardcore right guy, but a guy who's critical of Antifa.

He writes an article.

Is he a gay man and a journalist or just a journalist?

I I don't know.

I don't know, but I love that reference.

I do too.

Good old Phil Hendrix.

Okay, so Dayton, the Dayton shooter might be Antifa's first mass killer.

Let me give you this case here and see what you think.

When it comes to, we all know about the right-wing stuff at El Paso that everyone's saying.

When it comes to condemning the Dayton shooters' militant far-left views, all remain mum.

Others, such as police activist Sean King, even claim the Dayton shooter targeted blacks in a hate crime, though racism doesn't appear to have been a big component in his twisted worldview.

The Dayton shooter didn't leave behind a manifesto, but his extensive social media footprint provides clues as to what may have inspired him.

He had long expressed support for Antifa accounts, causes, and individuals.

That would be the, of course, loose network of militant leftist activists who physically attack anyone to the right of Mao in the name of anti-fascism.

In particular, he promoted extreme hatred of American border enforcement.

Kill every fascist.

It's a quote.

The shooter declared in 2018 on Twitter.

Over the next year, his tweets became increasingly violent.

Nazis deserve death and nothing else, he tweeted last October.

He, of course,

frequently flung the label Nazi around at those he disagreed with.

In response to an essay by

an intercept writer entitled, Let's Defeat or Impeach Trump, But What If He Doesn't Leave the White House?

The shooter wrote, Arm, Train, Prepare.

He then tweeted in June, I want socialism, and I will not wait for the idiots to finally come around to understanding.

He promoted posts that demonized Ted Cruz and Bill Cassidy's resolution against anti-extremism.

The national unity in rejecting violent white nationalist ideologues are emblematic of resolve against the far right.

The unanimous rejection of El Paso's shooter and his beliefs, including by President Trump, once more demonstrated the nation's resolve against the hard-right hate.

Yet when it comes to far-left violent extremism, there is a gaping blind spot in the mainstream discourse, and we are less safe because of it.

The Dayton Shooter promoted the same virulently anti-law enforcement rhetoric that too many mainstream figures on the left flirt with.

And yet it was courageous police officers who finally ended his carnage when they shot and killed him outside of that bar.

His case also makes clear Antifa's violence goes far beyond street hooliganism, that it's become infamous for.

The group espouses the belief that liberal democracy is irredeemably oppressive, fascistic even, and must be thoroughly destroyed.

Last month, an Antifa militant firebombed an immigration and customs enforcement facility in Tacoma, Washington.

Police say he was killed after he aimed a rifle at them during the attack.

His gun had apparently malfunctioned before he could fire.

In his manifesto, he called for his comrades to take up arms in confronting the ascendant fascism of the state.

In one of his last tweets, before he killed all those people in Dayton, he responded to a person asking if the guy who firebombed the ICE facility had been a villain or a martyr.

He replied, martyr.

I mean, he had said over and over again: people should be killed

for holding beliefs that are anything but socialist.

And he supported the groups like Antifa and their attempts at violence.

Good thing, that's justified them.

Nothing like fascism.

I mean, no, right now.

Wow, it seems a lot of these anti-fascists are pretty fascist.

It sure does.

Really strange.

Yeah, very strange.

He was also apparently a Satanist,

which is also pretty weird.

And

for the first victim that he had, it was his sister.

You wonder, that's kind of why I

really strange.

My initial interaction with this story was more of the because you can be a conservative and commit a murder.

That does not mean you

committed a murder because you're conservative.

Same thing here.

He could be a socialist and kill a bunch of people.

It doesn't mean it has to be because of socialism.

And my initial impression, because his sister was one of the targets, maybe it was a personal vendetta and he just decided to kill a a bunch of people, too.

But there's some evidence here.

I mean, he was really outwardly violent and advocating for that violence.

According to his friends, too, he loved his sister, had nothing against her.

Really a strange situation.

So weird.

Wow.

And they're still not talking about the fact that the El Paso shooter was an environmentalist.

Yes.

Still, we get nothing on that.

No.

All right.

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