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Some weird stuff going on.

We're getting some really strange information about the Dayton killer.

Yeah, yeah.

Do you read about that?

Do you see the paper name?

I have seen it in the papers, yes.

He was actually driven to the site by his best friend with his sister in the car as well.

So the third person was his best friend?

His best friend.

Okay, I didn't know that.

Drove him, he and his sister to the nightclub.

And

then

they were the first ones he shot when he got out of the car.

Right.

How weird is that?

I was trying to piece this together.

So was I.

I was trying to figure out, well, okay, where

did the AR-15 come from?

Right.

So they got separated at some point.

So my,

I was trying to piece, you know, as we were kind of listening to the different reports, and there are some conflicting reports about it, so it's still hard to dig out exactly what happened.

But it seems like they went down to this nightlife district together.

They got out of the car together.

He was not carrying a gun at that time.

Anytime.

And he didn't have the body armor.

Armor on?

Right.

I think it was in the car or in the trunk or something.

So they went into the nightlife district, separated, my guess is, intentionally, right?

He intentionally gets separated.

And went, hey, I can't find you.

I can't find you.

Went back, got the gun, got all dressed, then started texting, hey, meet me here.

I'm going to meet you here.

And that's how he wound up killing them.

Or he actually, I should say, he only killed her.

He's still alive.

So they're going to have to.

He did shoot him, though.

He did shoot him.

So they're going to have a real idea of as to

what this day was like, what it was leading up to this.

Yeah.

So he killed his sister.

He shot his best friend.

His best friend was also on his hit hit list when he was a junior in high school.

They've come up with this, with the fact that he had a hit list when he was a junior.

He had a hit list of people he wanted to kill, and he had a rape list of girls he wanted to rape.

Wow.

Both of those things indicative of negative behavior, Pat.

Yes.

Is how I would state that.

Yes.

And if you want to disagree with that, let's press four

and put your phone to your ear.

But it's interesting because you look at this and it's like you think immediately.

I think everybody thinks immediately, like, okay, this guy had all sorts of red flags, right?

Yes.

They're almost too bright to be red.

I don't know what color they turn into.

You know, a guy has a hit list, a rape list.

But

it's still difficult, right?

This was in high school many years ago.

Seven, seven, seven years ago.

You guys, you know, has major problems.

I'm sure at that time, somebody, they did something to address them.

Obviously, at some level, they thought maybe he was past them.

I know there's been, you know, people say, okay, well, there was all these problems back in high school, and he was, you know, there's people that are saying, look, he was a major problem, and we thought, like, he might do something like this.

There's also been the reports of a bar he went to regularly where

they were like, he was the greatest guy.

Never thought in a million years to do anything.

He was jovial,

positive, like never harassed women in the bar, never did anything like that.

He was just a great guy.

When we heard the name, we said there's absolutely no way that's the person they're talking about.

So it is not easy.

And we live in a society, I think,

this is a positive about our society, is we don't throw people in jail before they commit crimes.

We don't say, hey, you know, this guy seems kind of weird.

Let's put him in prison.

That's not a thing that we do.

Right.

And that's one of the things that has, it's one of our innovations, right?

I mean, back in the day, whenever someone was a little bit off, they threw him in jail.

If you disagree with a king, they threw you in jail.

If you had the wrong religion, they threw you in jail.

We've kind of cleared a lot of that stuff out.

It's to our benefit.

So it's really hard when you have the one in, what, 10,000, 100,000, a million people who is, you know.

who is weird and has these bad problems and then winds up acting on them.

Yeah.

How do you sift these people out?

It's

so impossible.

Such a difficult problem.

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In the documentary Minority Report, they were able to prevent crimes by, you know, they had those psychics in that milk bath, and they were able to foretell the crime, the murder, and

prevent it before it happened.

So maybe we should do something like that.

Maybe we could try that, see how that works out.

I think we should do that.

If you disagree, put the number four to your ear.

And by the way, you don't need a phone for that.

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write it down on the four.

On the paper, and then put put the four on your ear.

You should tape it to your head, obviously, so it doesn't fall off.

Otherwise, that would be ridiculous.

You take your hand off and the paper would fall to the ground.

You get to tape it.

It might get in your hair, but

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Well, blow on it and make sure it's dry before you put it on your ear.

That would be my recommendation.

I was fascinated by the idea that there is something called a porno grind metal band.

Did you know this?

No.

He was apparently the lead singer of a porno grind metal band.

Who was?

The Dayton guy?

The Dayton guy.

Now, the

porno grind genre, Pat, as you know, is a guy who's he kind of did the Grateful Dead thing in the porno grind industry, if I remember right

for a couple years.

He just got in a van and drove all around

the country.

Porno Grind concerts.

Apparently, this is a genre of music.

It's, you know, like heavy metal metal.

Um, and I can't release, I I can't say all of the story because all of it is horrible.

But

including the name of

his bannock.

I can't really tell you that.

But I could tell you that they released songs about rape.

Now, how many songs about rape can you name off the top of your head?

I can name one, which would be Nirvana's Rape Me.

Because I remember it being very controversial at the time.

And then I remember Kirk Cobain saying, it's an anti-rape song.

It's not a pro-rape song.

And it's like, well, we didn't think we were releasing a pro-rape song.

I mean,

I don't know.

I mean, maybe people did.

Rape, murder.

And then I know, like, murder, you could come up with a bunch of them, right?

There's a lot of songs about murder.

Yeah.

It depends on who you kill.

Some of those songs really like are very positive.

I shot the sheriff.

I shot the sheriff.

That's a murder song.

Right.

Like, and that's a, like, viewed as kind of a positive.

You're on the side of the guy who shot the sheriff in that song.

Well, because he had it coming to him.

Yeah.

And it was in self-defense, so it was okay.

Yeah, the one I was thinking of

was a Goodbye Earl, which was a song by the Dixie Chicks, where, you know, her husband seems like a dirtbag, so he kills her.

Kills him.

And that was like you're cheering for whatever Dixie chick was in that particular arrangement.

So lots of murder songs.

Certainly you can come up with just a few.

And I don't know,

I know you could name dozens, Pat, but I mean,

in the world of gangster rap, you could probably come up with a couple that reference murder.

Probably.

If there's a couple.

Not as many, though, when it comes to songs about necrophilia.

I feel like it's a limited genre.

There's not as many songs out there.

There's not like a box set for necrophilia songs, but this band apparently had them.

And apparently that's what this genre is.

So that doesn't sound like a red flag at all to me.

Like, I just the fact that you're like, you know what?

We're going to, our third single off the album is is

Necrophilia Nancy.

If that's you,

maybe we just automatically put you in prison, but that's not really our system of government.

It looks like a hospital of some sort.

It does feel like a hospital stay, might be involuntarily committed.

Yeah.

Perhaps.

Yeah, I'm just reading about the genre is related to and similar to Gor Grind.

But minor differences from Gore Grind include porno grind having simpler, slower, and more rock-like songs.

I'm telling you, Liz, as if you didn't know already.

I apologize for talking down to you.

It was a little weird when you said it like that, but I think you're talking to the audience.

Yes.

Because a lot of people, and if you don't know what pornography and the difference between porno grind and the other genre we were just talking about,

porn or gore grind.

Gorgrind.

If you don't know the difference, just dial your four on your phone.

Number four, put it to your ear, and we'll tell you about it.

Now, as you know, the genre's pornographic theme is present in the lyrics and the album artwork, which would keep them out of most stores.

Also, the terrible music would keep them out of most stores.

Wow.

Also, the fact that stores don't really sell music anymore would keep them out of most stores.

Yeah.

So there's a lot of things working against it.

The album, the artwork,

and the fact that music is no longer sold in stores.

Those three things are having keep it out of stores.

Oh, yeah, and also the crappy music.

Wow.

Interesting, though.

I'm looking at the story of him and he dress, he has a ski mask on as he sings

and

wears a very attractive

dress, which is adorable.

Or a sort of apron-like dress, kind of, and then maybe some shorts underneath.

I mean, it's an interesting

way to go for him.

And you're right.

It should have been a warning sign.

There were a lot of warning signs with this guy.

You know, one I was completely stunned by, Pat, and so stunned, I dialed the number four and asked questions about it.

And here's what they told me: this guy was a hardcore leftist.

I was shocked because,

as you know, all

right-wing people kill people.

Right.

That's the only one.

It's the only thing that can happen.

And certainly only right-wing people own guns.

And the interesting part about this guy is he had a really far-left Twitter feed to the point that he was

supporting

organizations like Antifa,

Which these are people that are anti-fascists.

Yeah, right.

They just don't like racism.

That's what they are.

I've read about them a hundred times in the mainstream media.

These are people who look, they're just standing up against fascism.

They don't like fascism or racism.

And yet this guy was supporting them and wound up killing a bunch of people.

What a weird, stunning twist.

I mean, is M.

Night Shyamalan writing the news?

I don't know.

It's so difficult to understand how someone could support an anti-fascist group that is just standing up against, you know, racism and anti-LGBT treatment.

And that person could wind up being violent?

Impossible to believe.

Impossible.

Seriously, impossible to believe.

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You know, the unmitigated gall of people like Elizabeth Warren.

This Dayton shooter

planned to vote for her.

And she's out yaking about Donald Trump being responsible for El Paso.

Well, is she responsible for inspiring this guy?

Bernie Sanders doing the same thing.

He actually wasn't as strong as some of these candidates have been.

Like, Betto O'Rourke is completely out of control.

Oh, he is the worst.

He is unhinged.

Now, that, of course, fits into his standing in the polls, right?

Like, he knows he needs to make a bigger splash.

It just shows how awful these people are.

He's come out of the world.

The way he has, and just flat out state.

He's a white nationalist, racist, and is responsible for the shooting.

And his

rhetoric is something that you'd see in the Third Reich.

Wait a minute.

What?

Man.

I don't remember Hitler saying there were good people on both sides being like a big part of that regime.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like, I didn't like that statement.

You know, most people didn't.

Even the president himself wound up amending it later.

But it's like, that's not Third Reich rhetoric.

And do you remember when Obama or Obama's people or supporters said something that was amiss?

It was always in artful language.

Oh, yeah.

There was something in the speech that wasn't quite right.

Why doesn't the president use those excuses like Obama did and just dismiss, yeah,

that wasn't exactly what I was saying.

I said it wrong.

Right.

Period.

And we all know in the

announcement when he declared himself for the presidency.

Right.

And he said that Mexicans were rapists and they were drug dealers.

And then he said, and I assume some of them are good people.

Well, he just put that badly.

He didn't mean that all Mexicans coming across the border are rapists.

We all know it.

He also didn't mean that some rapists are good people.

Right.

Right.

We all know that.

Right.

Even though maybe you could argue technically that's the order of the things he said.

He said some people are good.

But it's like we all know that that's not what he was talking about.

This is one thing that the media does to Trump all the time.

And I think in excess to any other person I've ever seen in my entire life, is like they will sit there and make fun of him for botching statements left and right.

And look, you know, there are moments in Donald Trump's life where the English language isn't exactly his friend.

They're at odds at times.

And that happens with Don from time to time.

But like,

the media will simultaneously mock him for that, for screwing things up.

Like, he said the wrong city in Toledo.

He said Toledo instead of Dayton for the shooting.

And they'll mock him like crazy for that.

When it benefits them to mock him,

when he has another statement and he has a misstep or he says something the wrong way, they'll take the the thing he said the wrong way as completely literally doctrine right that's exactly what he meant and now we now know till from now till the end of time that he's a white supremacist supremacist because that's what he said that's what he said well they've got it all fired up and they'll act as if they believe that part of it and they'll act as if they don't believe another part And it's like, you know,

it is very convenient.

It's that thing that kids do when they have selective hearing, right?

They selectively believe him when it benefits them.

And if it's just

a nonsensical mistake, they'll be like, oh, well, he's just, look at this guy,

another mistype on Twitter.

You know what I mean?

They think it's funny then.

It is

completely disingenuous.

And I don't know that I've ever seen them do it to

a single individual more than they do it to Donald Trump.

Oh, never.

I don't think it's possible.

I don't think it's possible to hate someone more than they hate Donald Trump.

I think think that's pretty clear.

A lot of this comes down to them, I think, believing that,

you know what, we have these standards, and with other Republicans, we won't actually follow the standards, but we'll try to give the appearance that we're following the standards.

They don't even do that.

They don't even do that with Trump.

No.

They hate Trump more than they hate guns.

I mean, they're focusing more on him right now than they are on, I mean, the guns is kind of an ancillary issue right now, but it's mostly Trump.

Yeah, because I'll say, like, there's a story out today that they are talking about executive action by Donald Trump on guns.

Something I am not

in favor of and

am very scared of.

But like, normally they would be thrilled with something like that from a president.

They're not even addressing it.

They're just talking about his white nationalism.

That's a great point, Pat.

You're right.

They hate him more than any guns.

They're more honest than that.

Yes.

That's incredible.

Yeah, it is.

Because they are really going down that road.

And the fact that they won't even challenge someone like Bedou O'Rourke saying these things,

they're not even challenging them.

They're just letting them, oh, yeah, obviously he's a white nationalist.

So can we get to the real issue that we have to debate?

It's like, that's just obvious.

We all have to come out and say he's a white nationalist, he's a racist, he's a white supremacist.

Now what?

And it's like, wait a minute.

That would you would never have accepted that about anybody else.

No.

They really are not just biased against him, but completely obsessed with this person.

They are completely obsessed with the president of the United States.

And unhinged.

Yeah.

They're not even trying.

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Do you remember the guy who mailed out supposed bombs to certain people who opposed Donald Trump?

What was that?

Last last October.

Yeah, last October.

And it was, you know, big

news personalities.

A bunch of people at CNN got them.

Some politicians, I feel like Nancy Pelosi.

None of them exploded, though.

None of them exploded.

And we said at the time, like.

it's weird.

That's weird.

Either he's really bad at it or he's not trying to kill people.

Exactly.

And I think that is a massive distinction in this case, right?

If you find out that the guy was trying to kill people and was bad at making bombs, you know, he's going to go away for a life.

If you think

he's just basically trying to send a message and scare people, still a crime, right?

And when you do it through the mail, it's a big crime.

It's a federal offense.

It's a federal offense.

But it's also

a different, we're looking at a different profile of a person, right?

Yes.

Yes.

You know, we've seen a lot of people who have sent, you know, flour in packages in the mail.

People open it up, the flour bursts out, everyone freaks out, and as we find out, it's not anthrax, right?

Like that's a very, that's happened, you know, a bunch of times, and it's not okay, but it's also something that's a little bit different than actually trying to kill someone, right?

Yes.

So Cesar Sayak.

was his name.

If you remember, he had the van with all the pro-Trump decals and like messages all over it.

And I mean, it was one of those things, again, you see someone with this van and you think to yourself, this just is not right.

Like, there's something definitely wrong with this dude.

So the media treated this as if it was a mass terror attack.

And it may have been, right?

Like, you have to take something like that seriously.

But very rarely do the media bring up the possibility that what we saw there was essentially a really dark prank.

You know, a really dark, I hate to say it that way because it makes it sound like it's silly.

It's not silly, but it's someone who's trying to basically scare the hell out of everybody.

Well, this case is now been decided and it hasn't made a ton of news, but I found this to be fascinating.

He was charged with 65 felony counts.

He's 57 years old.

He faced between 10 years and life in prison for this, for this.

So 10 years was the minimum he could get.

The judge said this.

He decided that Sayok's failure to create bombs that actually would detonate and harm his targets was, quote, a conscious choice.

So he didn't intend to hurt them.

Right.

At all.

This is a quote from the judge.

He just wanted to scare them.

He hated his victims.

He wished them no good, but he was not so lost as to wish them dead, at least not by his own hand.

So he basically sent devices that could not possibly detonate and kill kill the people that were the targets.

Now,

they did have like fireworks in there.

So again, you're sending fireworks to the mail.

There's all sorts of problems associated with that.

But he wound up getting 20 years in prison.

That seems like a lot when you're not really trying to hurt him.

You're just trying to scare him.

Yeah.

And then another five years of supervised release after that.

So it's 25 years.

20, then I guess five years of what home.

And see,

in a federal sentence like that, there's no parole possible.

You could be released for, you know, early for good behavior, but usually that doesn't happen.

No.

I mean, when you get a 20-year federal prison sentence,

you usually serve 20 years.

So he'd be 77 years old by the time he got out.

And look,

he certainly doesn't seem like a good guy.

His argument was essentially he's insane.

I mean, they were basically...

Maybe some time in a, in a mental health care facility.

Because we, I mean, Harvey Weinstein is still like hanging around a mansion right now.

We have child molesters that go to jail for two years.

I mean, I remember, and then it's been a while since the stats, so I have not seen it updated.

But at the time we did an inconvenient book, which was mid-2000s, so you're going back 12, 13 years now, so the status is outdated.

But the average amount of time a child molester spent in prison was like three and a half years.

Wow.

I mean, so this guy's getting 20 years for basically sending a bunch of fireworks in the mail.

I will say, though, this may change your opinion

because I've never heard it phrased this way.

Now, again, I believe he was, wasn't he from, was he from Russia or he was from the Eastern Bloc or something initially?

I don't remember exactly, but he says this, now that I'm a sober man.

So again, he was saying he was under the influence.

I know that I was a very sick man.

I should have listened to my mother, the love of my life.

I don't think I've.

All right.

Well, maybe this sentence was appropriate.

No, you're not.

That's just kind of weird.

It should have been 30 years.

You don't phrase it like that about your mom.

No, you don't.

That's a little bit.

It's kind of strange.

But yeah, I guess they basically argued he was completely nuts, which I think we all know.

We saw your van.

And, you know, sending, it's, again, not cool.

You can't send threatening packages to people all over the country and expect to get away with it.

20 years, though, does seem

pretty strong for basically

no chance of these things actually killing anyone.

They were not designed to explode.

That's a big difference than what we were initially told.

Maybe two years,

three.

Yeah, and maybe some

real mental.

Maybe you put them in an institution of some sort,

get him some help.

I don't know.

That's part of the problem is we don't have a really good system to get people help like this.

And

we don't know what to do with them.

And a lot of people just, they're on their own then because we don't have any way to

get them help and make sure that they don't do anything like this.

And that's why we have so many shootings.

I don't know what the answer is with the mental health situation.

I don't know.

There's a lot of crazy people.

And, you know,

involuntary committing people is scary too.

Because that can be problematic.

Right.

You just get three people that you know don't like you and you're pretty much not going to be you're going to lose your weapons.

Right.

And you're going to be committed somewhere without freedom for for some period of time.

It's going to be very difficult for you to reverse that.

And what are the effects afterwards?

Even if you do reverse it, you were

involuntarily committed by people who supposedly care for you.

There's going to be some real problems with that.

It doesn't seem like a lot of employers are going to be excited by that, you know, once you're out and you're trying to get a job.

So you're involuntarily committed.

Can you walk us through that one?

Well, I have crazy relatives, so they put me away.

Okay,

we're going to get back to you.

You don't need to come back and check in with us.

Yeah, we'll call you.

Yeah, that's, I do feel like that's an issue.

And, you know, honestly,

a pretty significant one with all these things.

Yeah, I think so too.

And that's why, again, we've decided as a society to make sure that people commit crimes before we put them in prison.

These red flag laws, it's something that the president brought up as sort of his five part of his five-point plan, overwhelmingly popular and seem like the right thing to do, frankly.

You know, you have this idea where if there are people around you who are like,

this is a serious thing, like this guy is going to commit a crime if you guys don't do something.

You have an opportunity to step in and sort it out before the thing happens.

Seems like a really good thing to do.

I think it feels right.

It does make me nervous, though, because you...

have a, you're trusting essentially the state to make a decision to

imprison someone and take away their Second Amendment rights before they've committed a crime, before they've done one little thing wrong.

You know, being weird is not a crime.

Being a little unstable, not a crime.

Not a crime.

Being someone who,

you know, like I was talking about this with

my wife earlier today, and

I think everybody in America has had this conversation with these mass shootings as they've been going on.

And you say to yourself, well, what about this person?

I could totally see this person doing something like that.

What about that guy?

Oh, that guy's crazy.

And we came up with a few names.

Certainly, Jeffy was not one of them.

I want to make sure that that's clear right now.

Jeffy, not one of the names.

You know, but like everybody's got those people in your life that you've worked with.

Like, God, they're so mad about everything all the time.

They're always angry.

Like, they had that bad relationship, and now they're just angry at every woman they talk about is always a negative.

Or, you know, that person's just weird.

They're always keeping to themselves.

They're never like they're really awkward socially or whatever that formula is that kind of tips you off and you have that conversation and you toss it around with someone that you don't think is insane.

And it's like, well, you know what?

All of the, like, I could say this with

certainty to 99.9% of the audience who's had that conversation.

The people you're talking about aren't going to have a shooting.

They're not going to go shoot people at a bar.

They're not going to go get a gun and attack people.

They're not going to do much of anything.

They're just going to end their life weird.

And that is not a crime.

Like,

the red flag is really obvious after the guys committed the murder.

But before the guys committed the murder, then you're doing the Tom Cruise thing.

You're doing the minority report thing.

You're saying, well, this person seems like they're going to commit a crime.

The people in the milk told me all about it.

They got to arrest them.

And it's like, well, I don't know that we want to develop

a system where we all get to be the people in the milk.

That does not seem like something that's going to turn out out well in the long run.

It very well might stop some crimes, but we could, and there's a lot of things you can do to stop that.

You throw everybody in prison.

No crimes will be committed.

Is that a good society?

Probably not.

So

you could get, you know,

that is

a very slippery, slippery slope.

Oh, absolutely.

And I know that's an overused analogy, but it's true here.

I mean, you can go down that road in an ugly way.

And authoritarian regimes have used that sort of logic a million times.

Well, and it's why they have less crime.

Yeah.

They just don't have a problem putting people in jail.

Political prisoners, people they don't like, people that seem weird, they all wind up.

China's a great example of this.

A great example.

They've got millions of people in concentration camps.

What do you think that social score is about?

What do you think these concentration camps for the Uyghurs are about?

These are people that say things that are slightly out of step with the Communist Party, so they put them all in in prison.

Oh, I mean, you know what?

99.9% of them would have never committed a crime, would have never gone and shot up some government building, but they're making sure that the 0.01% of the people that would have are in prison already, so they can't.

Right.

What a wonderful idea.

Now, look, these are the extremes.

I think there probably will be a lot of good usage of something like this.

It is a...

It's the type of thing that if you can limit

the downside.

So let's just say like, you know,

myself,

Pat Gray, Glenn Beck, all get together and say, you know, who is kind of freaking us out is this Jeff Fisher character.

And

Jeffy gets a red flag law and he has to abandon his guns.

If the punishment winds up being

that if they prove that we're just malicious or completely wrong, you know, the the outcome is, well, he lost, he didn't have access to his firearms for six days.

You know, something something where, okay, we sorted this out quickly and it was an inconvenience and he's pissed off at us.

And then he gets his guns back.

This does not seem like a good idea.

But he gets his guns back quickly.

So

you're not really doing too, too much.

Maybe that's the type of price that you pay there for the opportunity to put someone who really has mental issues.

you know, to the test.

Maybe that's it.

But that is a struggle that will be very, very difficult.

And you're putting your faith in the government to decide these things well, which they don't do.

That's for sure.

Yeah, if you want to trust the government with these things, okay.

Yeah.

I don't know that I want to.

I don't know if I want to either because they're going to say, you know, who's, you know, what's really an indicator of bad behavior?

Conservative values.

Like, how far are we away from that?

Right, not.

Right.

Some, some nut job.

Pretty much there.

Yeah.

Some nutjob-like person who winds up committing a crime and then they look in his records and he like, he also liked the flat tax.

You know, like they will apply anything to this.

Yep.

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There's a couple of arguments that I've noticed the left is leaving out as they're talking about gun control and whatever.

Are you kidding?

They haven't been completely thorough?

Yeah, no, there's a couple.

I just didn't think it was completely thorough.

Okay.

Like they've been bringing up this idea of banning high-capacity magazines.

Yeah.

And I haven't seen anyone make the point of what you're talking about is a little metal container or plastic container with a spring in it.

So, what makes you think you're going to be able to ban those?

Because I can order heroin on the internet right now if I wanted to.

How are you going to stop people getting shipped plastic containers with springs in them?

I'm curious as to you can't control

all these much more difficult substances from crossing the border, from coming in via mail.

But you're going to stop, you're going to ban the little plastic bullet holder container thingies.

You're going to be able to do that?

That's going to be interesting to see.

It will.

Have they thought of that one out?

I haven't seen them address that one yet.

How about the border, by the way?

They keep saying they want to restrict guns, but they want an open border.

What happens in that scenario?

Think about it for a moment.

Let me give you an example.

Drugs.

How did that work out?

How does it work out?

When you say, you know what, I don't want these drugs to be legal, and you can argue that's a good idea or a bad idea, but we have border security now.

What if we didn't criminalize anybody coming over the border and we incentivize more people to come?

Do you think guns might come over the border in even larger amounts?

Do you think

that's possible, is it?

It's an interesting combination of ideas.

We want really restrictive gun laws, but the border, just walk across with whatever you want.

And then I also love this one because you saw particularly this Dayton shooting and they were both impressive, but the Dayton shooting, the job the police officers did was incredible.

They took this guy down in 30 seconds.

Right.

And in it was six minutes they were on the scene at the at the random Walmart in El Paso.

Yeah.

Incredible job by the police and everyone's praising them.

You do remember these are the people that you call racist every other day of the year.

You know that one?

You know how you're saying they're targeting black people?

They stepped in to save a lot of black people's lives and a lot of Hispanic people's lives here at their own risk, going

against people with body armor.

I don't see anybody noticing that difference either.

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The number to call if you disagree is four.

And some people, I guess there's been some confusion about that, but

I believe we do have, I believe we have our first caller who has dialed the number four to disagree.

Hello.

You're on the Glenn Beck program with Pennsylvania.

Is this Pat?

Yes.

Yes, it is.

Pat Gray?

Yes.

Really?

Really?

Wow.

Whoa, wait.

Wow.

I love you, and I love your show, The Pat Gray Unleashed.

I listen to the podcast every day.

Really?

On my podcast service that I use.

Okay.

And I just love, I love you.

I love Stu.

I mean, he, wow, that guy's in great shape, huh?

I mean, wow.

Wait, you think that Stu's in great shape?

Well, I mean, okay.

Stop doing the sit-ups, guy.

I mean, look at this.

This guy is amazing.

I saw his wife on the show yesterday.

What did she do to get him, huh?

You know what I mean?

That's what I was asking myself.

Really?

You thought that she was the lucky one?

Oh, my goodness.

Yeah.

I sure did.

Wow, it's a fantastic.

This is kind of a line if you disagree, not if you love everything we do.

I am really embarrassed, Pat, because I pressed for.

Right.

And I put the phone to my ear.

Yeah.

And the reason I did so was not because I disagreed with you.

How could I?

You guys are fantastic.

And everything you say is just, it's perfect.

But I just didn't believe you.

I didn't believe that if I pressed for

and put the phone to my ear and didn't press send, that someone would just pick up and I'd be on national radio.

But it happened, right?

Here I am.

Yeah.

And wow, I mean, this first of all proves that if you disagree, you should press for

and put it up to your ear.

You should do it right now.

Well, thank you for that testimonial.

I appreciate that.

And secondly,

it must prove that not a lot of people disagree with you.

You must be making points that are so airtight.

So powerful that people can't disagree.

But I think that may be true.

I just want to apologize

because I should not have done it.

I should not have doubted you guys.

You know, you with that incredible credibility of the Pat Gray Unleashed podcast I listen to every day.

Right.

And Stu with the abs.

You know now you've seen his ass.

I've never

known Stu for a long time.

I've never seen his ass.

You can see him through the shirt.

That's how defined they are.

It's incredible.

I'm looking right now directly at him.

I can't see his abs.

Wow.

It's like, you know, can you take a break?

Can you take a break from the gym for one day?

I mean, he must live there.

I don't think that's a big problem, really.

You don't have a gram of fat.

Have one gram of fat occasionally.

The man is just,

he's like the rock.

Okay, appreciate

it.

We're all out of time.

Okay, thank you very much.

I love your show.

I love Pack right.

I love me.

I love Suzanne's.

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Or, you know, if you disagree, the number four, as we just found out, except for somebody just checking to see if

the number four worked.

And he found out it did.

He proved that it worked.

And that was very nice of him to say that, by the way.

I mean, look, I do take a day off from time to time.

Do you?

From the gym.

Because he didn't think that.

He didn't think so.

But, I mean, you know, look, I appreciate that.

I think he knows that, you know, once a month I have a day off, but he's thinking to himself, you know, it's just a nice way of being complimentary.

And I appreciate that.

And don't say those things about my wife.

Yeah, she's lucky.

I mean, we all know that.

I mean, just to point it out on national radio is just,

I don't think it's productive.

I don't think it's productive.

Yeah.

The president and his aides are seeking options right now

to address gun violence that would circumvent Congress.

Wow.

Isn't that great?

That sounds wonderful.

I think we're supposed to be for that, right?

We're supposed to be.

Well, do you support the president or not?

Do you?

You know, that's on something like that.

No.

No, I do not.

When he does things that I think are really good policies, which he's had plenty of those, and we've discussed them many, many times.

Yes.

Sure, absolutely support him, but not blindly.

And if the guy wants to take executive action on guns, that is not something I'm comfortable with.

From any president, whether it's Barack Obama or George W.

Bush or Donald Trump.

President Trump is exploring ways to use regulatory power and executive action to curb gun violence after a pair of deadly shootings.

A move driven by his aides' belief that Congress is incapable of coalescing around consensus legislation.

Well,

yeah, because too many of them believe in the Second Amendment.

That's why.

Now, that says if you want to infringe it, you need to do it with executive action, right?

That's how that reads.

No, it says shall not be infringed.

But

unless you get Congress to agree.

There's no unless.

No.

Nothing parenthetical in there.

No.

Nothing in, no.

Nothing assumed in there.

Now, a lot of the founders wrote an invisible ink.

Can we see the invisible ink around that?

We did.

We used the blow dryer on it and blue on it and then used the lemon juice, you know, and

we couldn't find anything.

Did we use the Ovalteen Decoder ring?

No, we haven't tried that yet.

Okay, let's try that.

White House officials said Trump and U.S.

Attorney Attorney General Bill Barr are resolved to take action after the shootings.

They're exploring solutions that actually make an impact as opposed to things that feel good.

It's increasingly relied on his executive authority to address issues that have stained his administration, including the gun violence epidemic.

Ten months after a teen gunman killed 17 people at Marjorie Stoman Douglas High School last year, the Trump administration issued a rule at the president's request to ban the sale and possession of the bump stocks.

So he's already done that.

And

completely unconstitutional.

Yeah.

And we thought about it at the time.

It's such a minor thing.

I'm never buying a bump stock.

I I don't know anybody who would ever buy a bump stock.

And bump stocks, obviously, the one time I've ever heard of them used in my entire life.

I didn't even know they existed.

I didn't even know they existed until Las Vegas.

That being said, you can't infringe.

You shall not infringe.

So the idea that you can do this without even legislation

is really, really good.

You know how you can do this?

Constitutional amendment.

Yep.

Yep.

That's how you can do it.

Absolutely.

You can do it.

Right.

You know, the shall not be infringed really does have a parenthetical unless you take this amendment out.

Right.

And then you can infringe all you want.

There will be those who say, well, that takes too long.

That's too hard.

It's supposed to be.

You know why?

Because by the time something gets done, people have had the chance to cool down, think about it, and think logically rather than irrationally through emotion.

Yep.

And that's the way we're thinking right this second.

It's supposed to be hard.

to because these are important rights.

They can't just be taken away through an executive action and the whim of the executive branch.

You can't deal with that.

Yeah.

I don't know how people are going to defend this.

How do you defend this?

His defenders always defend it, but I don't know how you do on this particular case.

Well, it's common sense.

Common sense reforms, Pat.

Uh-huh.

I don't know.

Through executive action.

Through executive action.

And I actually completely disagree with the premise, too.

So do I.

If Donald Trump came out for a set of specific gun restrictions and legislation, you're telling me you couldn't get 20 Republican senators on board with that?

Every Democrat would theoretically go along with it if it was gun restrictions.

You could pass it through the Senate.

By the way, still wouldn't be constitutional.

Right.

But in theory, you could get it through, you could get it through

relatively easily.

I don't know why,

if anything, it doesn't make sense to me politically that Trump would want to take this on his own

and put the pressure on himself rather than have it go through Congress, where still it would probably be ruled unconstitutional later on.

At least there'd be a good chance of that.

I don't, look,

it is, of course, a very emotional thing, and you don't make good decisions about such topics when you're emotional.

And that's why the Congress is there.

That's why the Constitution is there, to slow these things down so you don't.

Checks and balances.

That's why we have co-equal branches of government so that somebody can stop emotional action.

Yeah, and we don't have to guess, by the way, how Republicans and talk show listeners would react if Barack Obama put in executive action on guns because he threatened it a million times, and I heard people how they reacted badly.

Right.

And they should.

And here's the one thing.

If he reacted badly to Obama

and executive action on guns, don't you?

Where are you now?

Where are you now?

You got to be there for this, too.

I would think so.

I would think so.

I mean, I think a lot of times, you know, look, people in the back of the park.

And again, the president has done fantastic things that I didn't think he would do.

Absolutely.

He's proved us wrong a bunch of times.

Yep.

And so hopefully, I think the best case scenario of this article is they're floating this

to see how Republicans and conservatives will react to it.

So maybe it'll be stopped.

If they react negatively like they did,

like they have on other, after the, which shooting was it?

There was a different shooting that he talked about potentially doing something on guns.

The American people reacted relatively poorly to that idea, and he wound up backing off of it.

And so maybe that's the same thing.

Florida thing.

It may have been Florida.

But I'll give you this.

This is from the Tim Alberta book, American Carnage.

And I caught this as I was reading it, and I was like, wait a minute.

I had to read it two or three times because did this actually happen?

He says he's confirmed this.

He's got quotes in it from people who were in the room.

Here's what it says.

The only unusual part, this is talking about the Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer who shot a bunch of Republicans.

You might remember Bernie Sanders as the guy telling us that Donald Trump's speech is responsible for the murders from this past weekend.

So the guy who volunteered for the campaign, not just the guy who said things, said the word invasion, and Donald Trump has also used the word invasion, which is about as much of a tie as they have between Trump and the guy in El Paso.

This guy actually volunteered for the campaign of Bernie Sanders and tried to kill a bunch of congressmen that were Republicans.

When that was going on, as the aftermath is going on, this is in this book, American Carnage, the only unusual part of Trump's response was his fixation in discussions with doctors at the hospital and later with Scalise himself on the size of the bullet.

There was also a question he posed to friends and aides in the days following the shooting.

Quote, Should we do gun control?

The president asked.

Quote, Steve can lead the way.

He's got street credibility now.

End quote.

Wow.

Now, I have not heard anyone in the administration dispute that account of what happened.

And so I'm concerned because if you look back at

Donald Trump, there's basically three types of Donald Trump policies, right?

The policy that Donald Trump has supported rock solidly since he came into the public eye in the 1980s, like trade protectionism, tariffs, right?

Like he has been

absolutely rock-solid on that policy since the 80s.

Consistent every step of the day.

Then there's the type of policy where, you know, as he became a Republican nominee, he embraced, and there were a lot of questions as to whether he really believed it.

And I think his actions have shown that he

had a conversion on that topic.

One I happen to believe with Donald Trump is abortion.

He was absolutely a professional.

He's been great on that.

Choice guy for most of his life.

And I actually believe he's had a a conversion and he's been good on that topic.

And I can't question him on that one.

I think he's legitimate, and he's a conservative on that.

The third category is a conservative policy where you're kind of like, I don't know.

And guns is in that category.

And I'm not super committed.

Yeah,

he wrote in a book back in the day that he was for the assault weapons ban.

Like, I mean, it was not a minor part of his belief system.

He's been very anti-Second Amendment.

Now, when he came into office, he's put in Neil Gorsuch.

I think Kavanaugh is pretty good on guns.

I have questions on him on other topics, but guns is not really one of them.

Guns are not really one of them.

So he's had things that he's been really good with guns.

The bump stock thing was really bad.

He's had

threats of gun control several times.

This account does not fill you with confidence.

And so now he's exploring executive action on guns.

I'm nervous about it.

I think if conservatives send a message, if base sends a message, hey, don't go down that road.

That's not good.

It's not good.

We don't want that.

We don't want that for you and your legacy.

Like, I think he will back off of it.

But it is concerning.

It is concerning.

It is.

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Let's go to Don in Missouri.

Hey, Don, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Patton Stew.

Hey, good morning.

Morning.

Morning.

Hey, I've got a solution for all this violence stuff.

Oh, good.

We need to get more police officers.

Let's have like two or three police officers for every single person in the entire United States.

That's a lot of police officers.

Oh, I know.

Follow it.

All we're working with is here.

And then we'll have, make sure that we know that everybody, you know, whoever's a bad person will know who everybody that's bad will know about, you know, their tendencies and everything.

Right.

And then we'll go ahead and we'll control where they live.

It's called prison.

And people still die in prison.

They still get murdered in prison.

Yeah.

They still get raped in prison.

Yeah.

I don't want to live in prison.

I want to live in a free country.

I'm tired of them trying to make me more safe.

Yeah.

I want to live in a free country.

I will take the responsibility of any dangers.

But we need to stop going down this road trying to stall every single crazy person that's out there that's going to kill somebody.

That's a great point.

That's a great point.

Yeah.

Show me.

Thanks.

Thanks, Don.

Appreciate it.

And he didn't need to press forward to disagree because I agree with him on that point.

That's a great point because that is the type of thing you're talking about.

I mean, China tries to create that for its people.

You want that?

No.

I don't want it.

And you talk about dying in prison.

We just had that huge story from Brazil where 57, 58 people died in a prison riot just this week.

So, yeah, prison is not a safe place.

And you could make the U.S.

a prison if you want.

And we don't want that.

Will in Georgia.

Hi, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Patton Stu.

Hey, guys.

So it's weird.

I pressed the four to my ear, and somehow I don't know if I got rerouted through Friendster, but I ended up here.

So

I called in last year to Pat's show to talk about the gun violence issue.

I felt like I had a unique perspective being a graduate of Parkland Parkland High School and was

with Aaron Feis, who died that day.

And so

unfortunately, I think this violence issue

is a challenge because it goes against the utopia that

the left has for all of their policies.

And they're trying to solve a problem that can't be solved.

This isn't a gun issue.

This is just strictly an evil issue.

And particularly with mental health,

it obviously needs to be addressed to some extent, but I'm concerned that if you give that over to bureaucracy and to politicians, you know, big tech is already extending conservative thought into hate speech.

And it's not too far off in the future where that's going to be labeled as some sort of mental health issue.

And, you know,

I think the only solution to this is this country needs to turn back to its roots.

And this is revival or bust.

Don't say it.

Don't say it.

Turn back to God.

Oh, is that what you're

if you're heading that?

I'm doing it.

You're heading down that road.

Oh, my.

I'm doing it.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

That is the only.

Seriously.

That's the answer to every problem we have.

Yeah.

Every problem.

Appreciate it, Will.

Thanks.

We'll give you one.

I mean, the guy who founded 8chan.

So

4chan was this crazy message board where people had all sorts of threats, and it was, you know, this free speech paradise where everyone basically is anonymous.

And it winds up.

A lot of these people post their manifestos on it.

Is that on the dark web or is that on?

I guess.

I don't know.

noticed that.

I don't understand the 4chan, 8-chan thing.

I don't either, really.

But the 8-chan guy, he's a guy, he's in a wheelchair, and

he decided he wanted to

come up with this free speech.

He wanted it to be his legacy, this free speech, you know, paradise, anonymous free speech.

So they created 8-chan.

A few years into it, he decided to offload it because he has issues.

It's not easy for him to moderate to control a site like that.

So you wound up giving it to someone else.

It's turned into this thing.

The 8-chan guy now is saying, shut the site down.

Shut it down.

Like, it's no longer worth it.

It's like turned into this awful thing, and these shooters and these people with violent, you know, and racism and all these terrible things that have come out of this.

And it's not what I wanted for the site.

Now he doesn't have control over it.

He can't do it.

But one of the things that's changed in his life since those days is he's now attending church.

And he's, he's, he's, his life has changed in a major way.

You know, that, you know, we've, these, these conversions, even for the worst among us, when you're talking about, go to the deep white nationalist.

I mean, we've talked to Megan Phelps Roper, who

is,

you may recognize her name, Phelps, being a child of the Phelps family of the Westboro Baptist Church.

Right.

And she was actually...

converted out of that life where she's holding up, I hope all these soldiers die and all that, you know, after soldiers' funerals.

And she's now an upstanding member of society.

These things can happen.

They're difficult.

They don't happen easily, but they can happen.

But when do they happen?

When you turn to God.

Many times, yeah.

Yeah.

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We've got a great, another great segment of liberals eating their own,

own,

own.

I always love it.

I always love it.

This is your favorite thing about life.

It is, basically.

It is.

Neil deGrasse Tyson, who's one of the biggest radical liberals, one of the biggest loudmouths there is,

actually said something

true about the shootings.

What?

Yeah,

he said in the past 40, he tweeted this out.

In the past 48 hours, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.

On average, across any 48 hours, we also lose 500 to medical errors, 300 to the flu, 250 to suicide, 200 to car accidents, 40 to homicide via handgun.

Often, our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data.

How dare you talk facts while we're going ape crap crazy?

How dare you?

So, you know, the Twitter world went nuts on him, and he's apologized for it.

Of course, he has.

Oh, thank God he has.

Finally,

because he wrote the wrong numbers.

Those aren't even true.

No, they're all true.

They're all true.

No, but some of them were a little bit off.

No, they weren't off at all.

They were off.

No, the science from the scientist was a little.

When you make a mistake as a scientist, you apologize for it.

You do.

But he made no mistakes here.

These are all accurate figures.

So, all those numbers where you said 500 people died from medical mistakes.

300 to the flu, 250 to sue.

All of it's true.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In any 48-hour period of time.

But they don't want to hear that.

He did say maybe that was the wrong time.

And, you know, maybe the day of the shootings, it is the wrong time.

You can say that.

I don't know.

Look, I think.

The politicization, politicization.

Yeah, sure.

Politicizing this was was already going on.

Of course it was.

By everybody.

Yeah.

It usually is, right?

And it happens quickly.

And

to that point, maybe we could play this clip real quick.

Here's Mika Brzezinski.

This is audio.

Mika Brzezinski talking about this political issue that Democrats can get some traction from.

This is an issue that resonates with voters.

This is an issue that resonates with young people who have grown up in the age of mass shootings, afraid that they may come to their school because it has become a way of life.

It seems to me that this political issue could be something that the Democrats could get some traction on.

Because you get good traction.

You get good,

your shoes won't slip off of that giant pile of dead bodies you're putting your campaign on top of.

That is wonderful.

Insane.

Oh, insipid.

It really is.

I mean, that is awful.

What's wrong with you?

How do you even think that way?

It's It's fascinating, though, I think, when you look at the deGrasse Tyson part of this.

He is really right on this.

And we have a massive problem in this country.

He's absolutely right.

When it comes to this type of thing, where

we really look at these big spectacle events and act as if those are the major problem.

Like, you know, there's this thing going on right now, and we're going to talk about this tonight on TV.

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So we're talking about one of the things we're talking about is this stat continually being tossed around by the media about how there's 250 mass shootings this year so far.

That's how bad

250

mass shootings just so far, Pat.

And

you know there's going to be more.

No, it's true.

In fact, the number is now, let's see,

this year, incidents in 2019.

Looking forward here.

Mass shootings.

253 now.

253 mass shootings this year in the United States.

Did you know that, Pat?

Did you know that?

Stop it.

This shows how big of a problem it is, doesn't it?

That's a pretty big problem.

And that's why we need to stop white supremacy in its tracks, right?

They were all white supremacists in the world.

See, here's the, yeah, this is the issue.

You can't get both of these things.

You're going to, as the media, need to choose whether you want the number of 253 mass shootings or

alternatively, you want to blame evil white people with their big scary guns.

Because they're two different things.

Because if you want to say, you know what, the problem is white supremacy and Donald Trump.

And all these people with their gamer gear and their body armor walking into these places and shooting at malls, it is a massive problem.

But if you want to blame mass shootings on that, you have to talk about the spectacle mass shooting that we're all discussing, right?

Yes.

Which is what everyone means when they're talking about mass shooting, right?

You go into, you know,

some guy walks in, starts indiscriminately firing at people all over the place.

The problem is, if they want to have that, they can't also have the number of 253 mass shootings, which they also want.

The problem is, with 253 mass shootings, there's a specific definition, and it comes down to basically four people shot in a single incident.

Not necessarily killed, but shot in a single incident.

So the number goes way up.

Well, to get that number way up, you're including a massive number of gang violence incidents that are not done by white supremacists.

These are not white supremacist gangs in Chicago committing this violence.

So now the profile of the person who's actually the problem in mass shootings looks nothing like the gamer with the gamer gear and the body armor.

You can't blame white supremacists for gang violence in Chicago.

That's not how that works.

So you have to have one or the other.

You need to pick one of those two things.

We know you want both narratives.

What you want to say, of course, is a bunch of white people are committing 253 mass shootings every year.

The problem is you don't get both of those.

So if you want to embrace 253, you have to address the much more serious problem in our country.

And by the way, it is much more serious.

Of gang violence and violence in inner cities, where far more of the devastation when it comes to body count happens.

It's not, I mean, yes, these incidents are terrible and they're in our public view, and they're the things that we talk about.

But

right, but as Neil deGrasse Tyson pointed out, I think you said, Pat, it was 40 by handguns, if I remember the number right?

Yes.

In 48 hours.

In 48 hours.

That's the normal two-day number.

The number for these mass shootings that we think of with the white supremacists walking into the Walmart, that number was 34.

Well, and if you're going to include injuries, too,

these are homicides.

So these are murders.

Now, the 253 number you're using includes just people shot.

Yeah, sometimes there's nothing.

They didn't die.

Not even death.

So if you're talking about injuries due to handguns, that number goes way up.

Yeah.

And think of this, Pat.

So he says 40 deaths

when it comes to a normal two-day period with handguns.

The worst day we can remember, really, with two mass shootings in the same 48-hour period, you had 34.

However, it's not two mass shootings.

To get to 34, you have to include two mass shootings in Chicago,

which killed, I believe, five people.

The total for the two other mass shootings is now 31, so it's up a little bit, but it was 29, I believe, at the time he posted this.

So, you're talking about five of those deaths coming from

the other sort of definition of mass shooting in just one city.

So, again, like

it shows we should really step.

The problem here, really, is the number of acting as if there are 253 mass shootings in this country.

We all know what we mean when we define mass shooting.

Mass shooting, and the FBI has a much more realistic definition with four people.

I think it's four people or more dying, which usually has an incident where you're, you know, 12 or other are injured, right?

It's a big incident, and it's a much more usable number.

The media doesn't care if it's realistic or accurate because they want the bigger number.

They want to chase down the largest number to scare you as much as possible when it comes to the issue of guns.

Well, when the overwhelming amount of those incidents are happening, A, with gang violence in the inner city areas, and B, with domestic violence situations that are completely disconnected to what you would picture as a public mass shooting, which was what we're all discussing here.

They are doing this intentionally to fool their moronic viewers who never question these things.

And that's a huge problem.

It's why, it's the same reason why they're telling you El Paso was solely about white supremacy when it was also very clearly about environmental concerns as written in the Killer's Manifesto that they keep not showing you.

This is a, it's a huge problem.

And it's hard to, even as a defender of the, of the media at times, because I think they do some good work,

it's not all fake news.

I don't like that.

that deconstruction of it.

But it's like, it's hard to defend you when you're doing stuff like this.

You are blatantly lying to people to get something done.

That's activism.

That is not journalism.

Yeah.

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Chris in North Carolina.

You're on the Glenn Beck program.

Hi.

Hi, folks.

I just wanted to say I'm actually a member of Grassroots, North Carolina, and we're our state-level gun rights group.

I worked for President Trump on his campaign, and I was a wholehearted supporter, but these red flag laws are questioning my support because we just recently defeated a bill here in North Carolina that was designed to work in conjunction with red flag laws where the sheriffs didn't, were complaining.

They didn't want to have to catalog whose firearms belonged to what, where to store them, and things like that.

They would just be able to confiscate your firearms, destroy them right off the bat.

You get no compensation for them.

And then later, if it turns out that your ex lied to you about you, because in Connecticut where they do have red flag laws, one-third of them are overturned once a judge hears both sides of the story.

Wow.

But basically, basically, this bill would have had your firearms confiscated.

You'd get no money for them, and you'd have to buy your collection.

Even if your rights were restored, you'd have to buy your collection all over again at whatever the current market rates are.

And then, if your gun is like some of mine, where like your grandfather gave them to you, you can't replace those, you're just out of luck.

And to me, it's not even about the compensation.

It's about, I'm not giving you my gun.

No.

It's unconstitutional.

No, you're not taking my gun.

Forget it.

It's most certainly not how I replace it.

Appreciate it.

Right.

Rights don't work as the government gets to tell you when

you're able to have them.

It's nuts.

That's not what it is.

People will say, well, come on, this is America.

We got the Second Amendment.

It never happened.

It's already happened.

And as Chris said, it almost happened again in North Carolina.

It happened in New Orleans, Louisiana, right after Katrina.

The National Guard went door to door, confiscating thousands and thousands of guns from people.

Thousands.

Most of them never got their guns back.

Now, you might think, well, it was a national emergency.

It was a big emergency, and

they wanted to be safe.

It was unconstitutional what they did.

You can't just take people's guns.

But they did.

They did.

But they did.

And red flag laws, I mean, a third is an incredible number, right?

And it's not incredibly surprising that there would be a third of these cases that would be overturned and if they do it like this like just say even it takes three months of of court proceedings who knows how long it is um it's a problem and by the way i will say there's a red flag law in balt in in maryland And you know that Baltimore is the murder capital of the United States of America.

Does it do much?

It's fascinating.

I mean, it may help in a particular specific case, but still.

The murder rates in these cities with the most egregious gun control laws.

In states with egregious gun control laws.

Are always the places where there's the most gun murders.

How does that work?

It's weird.

Maybe the bad people don't care about your gun law.

Huh?

How dare you accuse them of that?

I mean, wow.

Are you telling me

if they'll murder somebody, they'll also break a gun law?

Huh.

I bet they speed on the way to the murder, too.

No, no.

No, that would be true.

I think it's true.

I think it's a very good thing.

There are three laws that they violated.

I'm sure that you got some standards.

I heard there was one case where a guy sped to a murder with a gun that he was not supposed to have, and in his other hand, he was holding a mattress tag that said, Do not remove.

Oh, my God.

Is that true?

Oh, my God.

Well, I don't know if it's true.

It's Urban Legend.

Okay.

You look it up on Snopes.

Yeah.

I suppose he had an open container in the car as well.

It's a ridiculous story.

All right.

Let's go to Dan in Colorado.

Hey, Dan.

You're on the Glen Pack program.

Good morning, guys.

How are you?

Doing well.

Good.

So, Colorado just adopted red flag laws.

Oh, man.

I know.

It's horrible.

It's being fought.

Ideally, it'll be determined unconstitutional.

But the way it stands now, an anonymous person can file a charge against you.

The police have to act on it.

They come in, break down your door, take your guns, and a couple of weeks later you get to appear before a judge.

Jeez, that is just nuts.

And then in theory, you would get them back, I guess?

Oh, no, no, no, no.

The judge can determine to keep them for up to a year.

Oh, just the year.

Oh, okay.

Your own God-given right.

You're able to exercise it a good year or so for doing nothing wrong.

That sounds fair.

And then maybe you'll get it back.

Maybe.

Well, except that even if he determines that after a year he can get them back, federal law then says because you've been adjudicated as unbalanced, you can't own guns anymore.

Oh,

well,

this is going to work out well.

Now, look, a lot of Republicans also support this.

Obviously, everyone on the left supports it donald trump said he was going to entertain it he has not done it yet and i think calls like this are the best chance we have to not get these things at least enacted in a way that is as damaging as some of these things might be a good idea if you oppose this to let the white house know that respectfully disrespectfully very nicely just let them know we don't want executive action taken on gun control.

I think the motivation is good here, but these things tend to work out poorly for actual people with their actual rights.

Yep.

It's not something I, it's not a road that, certainly not a road to get your bait, the base on your side as you go into an important election.

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But I will say,

as far as this radio show goes today,

and it's a little out of the ordinary to address it, and I guess on the air, but

I'm a little disappointed in the amount of people who have successfully called in using the number four to disagree.

I have two.

It's been underwhelming.

Underwhelming.

I mean, we pushed hard for this.

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A lot of technology went into it.

Yeah.

You know, to get you to

get through with just the number four, we wanted to make it as easy as possible for people who disagree to get in.

And we weren't going to say this, but we had to bring in Elon Musk

to do a lot of the just, you know, brainstorming on how to do this.

Because normally when you pick up a phone, you have to dial a number, you click send, or if it's a home number, you would, you know, you'd have to pick up here the dial tone and you'd press a button.

And if you've just pressed a button and waited, it would give you like a, you know, that, that, hey, your phone's off the hook sort of message.

Well, that's not going to happen if you disagree with us and you're doing it right.

And I think this is the thing that I keep coming back to, Pat.

And I hate to say this to the audience because

I don't like.

to come to this conclusion, but I'm having a difficult time finding another path to anything else, which is the people who disagree with us are too dumb to figure this out.

Now, you didn't want to arrive at that conclusion, though, right?

You didn't want to.

You've just been led to it by the facts.

Right.

By the evidence.

Here's the thing.

We said, hey, look, the people who agree with us are really smart.

They're going to be able to figure out 888 727 back on their phones.

They're going to be able to do that.

But the people who don't agree with us, they might not necessarily be as intelligent.

So let's make it easy for them.

We'll have them press the number four.

Don't even have to click send.

Just put the phone to your ear and just wait for us to start talking to you.

That's easy, right?

Just wait.

Super easy.

Put the number four in your phone.

And we even said, if you really want to, you can put the number four on a piece of paper and put it up to your ear.

And eventually, even that will work.

I mean, we had Elon Musk on this project.

Yeah.

So I just, I just have a difficult time figuring out what the possible problem could be other than, number one,

the people that disagree with us are just too stupid.

Or number two, they're just not waiting long enough.

So maybe there's a lot of people on right now.

They have the number four up to their ear and they're just waiting, and we haven't picked them up yet.

So

it's an acceptable thing.

If you're on hold on that line right now, you've clicked four.

The phone's up to your ear.

You haven't pressed send now.

The number four is in your phone and it's up to your ear.

We will be getting to you.

We will get to you.

And you can tell there's a lot of people, I guess, on hold, but the numbers are still underwhelming.

And so I just, I hope it's not that you're just stupid.

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You know what's amazing is how committed

this hideous psycho was in

El Paso to doing what he did.

He's actually from the Metroplex here in Dallas,

a suburb called Allen.

Which is not, it's not Dallas, right?

Allen's pretty much.

No, it's just pretty far though.

Is it 45 minutes?

Yeah, probably from downtown.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Maybe I'm from

the northeast and 45 minutes doesn't seem like a like that's the difference from Hartford to New Haven, basically.

So to me, it's like that's true.

But the Metroplex is so spread out.

It's so big that

almost everything in Texas is part of it.

Anyway, the guy drives 10 hours across the state to El Paso, a place where he's more likely to find a goodly number of people from Mexico.

Or Hispanics in general.

general.

Or Hispanics in general.

85% or 80% of

85%, something like that.

Percent Hispanic.

And there are people who come across the border every day and shop or go to school or whatever.

So he picked a border town intentionally.

When I first saw the location, my first thought was he's looking to commit the shooting and then escape, right, across the border.

That was before we kind of saw the manifesto, which was very much focused on

illegal immigrants and Hispanics in general.

And also eliminating the possibility of

human beings to exist on this planet because global warming.

Yeah, well, yeah, he doesn't think he mentions.

Maybe he does,

but it was about plastic waste, consumer waste.

So let me run this theory by you.

Okay.

I was thinking about this yesterday.

And

I think it's right, but I don't have evidence of it yet.

But let me run this by you.

So we all understand that this shooter went to this Mexican

border town

with the intent of shooting Hispanics and potentially Mexican nationals and other illegal immigrants and things of that nature at this particular store.

And then, and when that was like very easy, I think we all just kind of said, yeah, okay, that makes sense.

We don't have proof of that per se, but I mean, it's obvious.

You read his manifesto.

He mentions specifically targeting illegal immigrants and Mexicans.

And then he goes to a place on the border, an intentional choice by him to do that.

He could have, there's plenty of Walmarts in Allen.

He went down there for a reason.

My argument here is that he also went to Walmart for a reason.

Look at the rest of his manifesto.

It's all about consumer products, overuse,

plastic waste.

These corporations are ruining our country.

This is the left-wing argument, not only against capitalism in general, but about Walmart specifically.

I think he not only chose a border town, but also a Walmart specifically because it hits both sides of his manifesto.

Remember, I mean, Walmart is one of the most vilified corporations in the world.

The left, Alexandria Casio-Cortez, that whole socialist left and union left movement have vilified Walmart as if it was essentially Satan for the past two decades.

Yep.

No question.

And he followed that sort of

theory

by the letter, basically.

I mean, that is his rant is basically the left-wing argument against Walmart.

I think he specifically chose Walmart, not only at the border, but that particular store, because it's a symbol of all the consumerism and environmental complaints he had throughout the manifesto.

Wouldn't be surprised at all.

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So

I find it interesting to think about the Neil deGrasse Tyson thing you did from last hour.

Do you still have that up by any chance, that tweet from Tyson?

He's a scientist, of course, and he's usually in the news because he's yelling at some conservative about global warming.

Or he has a really creepy story about me too.

This is one of them we don't, it doesn't get talked about as much because he's on the left.

As you're finding that tweet, he did this thing where

he hit on this woman, supposedly, reportedly,

that she had a tattoo of the solar system on her shoulder.

She claims he put his hand inside her dress.

Sorry.

We have a

Marissa is our female producer in here, and she's giving me the worst possible look as I describe this particular maneuver by Neil deGrasse Tyson.

So, Neil deGrasse Tyson, not a good-looking guy.

No, no, not a good-looking guy.

So, anyway, he goes up to this woman and she's got it to the solar system, and the solar system is on her shoulder, part of it.

And he apparently says to her, He puts his hand inside her dress and runs his hand kind of inside of her dress and says, I'm just looking for Pluto.

No,

that's a line.

This is the worst move I've ever heard in my life.

It's the creepiest thing, man.

And it's so, there's only one word for it: is nerdy.

Like, it's the most nerdy approach.

Only a complete loser attempts this, right?

So this goes through, this is only one of several accusations against him.

So they go through this, you know, big situation and they ask him, they say, okay, this is what this woman says you did.

Like, you need to answer for that.

And his answer was,

well,

it does sound like something I would do.

This is his excuse.

It sounds like something.

It sounds like something something I would do.

As a person interested in the cosmos, I was, of course, very interested in the demotion of Pluto as a planet and wanted to see if people were getting tattoos, whether they would include Pluto or not.

So it does sound like something that I would do.

That was his excuse.

And how long ago did this supposedly happen?

I think a few years ago.

And he was cleared.

Wow.

No way.

He was cleared.

He's off now.

He's totally fine.

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Stu, you mentioned the tweet from Neil deGrasse Tyson.

It was this.

In the past 48 hours, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.

On average, across any 48 hours, we also lose 500 to medical errors, 300 to the flu, 250 to suicide, 200 to car accidents, and 40 to homicide via handgun.

Often, our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data.

And you got

a legend for that.

Unlike his Pluto move, which was apparently okay,

that is something he got in trouble for.

And of course, the odd thing is this is a moment of truth here for Neil deGrasse Tyson.

He's telling you the truth.

These numbers are all accurate,

and it is a really important thing and something that really screws up our society.

We happen to focus on

these two mass shootings will dominate the news coverage for how long when

objectively, a much more serious problem than mass shootings, which are a serious problem, but a much more serious problem than mass shootings are the violence in our inner cities when it comes to gang violence, for example.

And we just kind of like, well, we can't really do anything about that.

I guess that's our idea.

And we can do something about this.

We can ban assault weapons, which, of course, we've already showed you that didn't.

We already did it for 10 years.

It did nothing.

It did not improve the murder rates at all.

So, you know, and this goes back to a lot of our political debates.

You know, Donald Trump is continually mocked because he brings up things like MS-13.

MS-13.

Come on, MS-13.

How can you possibly?

Well, MS-13 murders over four times as many people that get murdered in school shootings.

So like,

it's a much larger problem to our society than school shootings.

And you might say, well, I, and I don't say this, but you might say, well, I care a lot more about, you know,

the white suburban children than I do about those Hispanics in inner cities.

I guess that's your argument argument for not caring because most of the people MS-13 kills are Hispanics in inner cities.

So I guess you don't care about those people.

You only care about these suburban kids.

Now, look, it's a massive problem.

And I think gang violence is the type of thing where most people sort of degrade those numbers because they think, well, they're in gangs and they're killing each other.

But they're not all in gangs, first of all.

A lot of people are innocent bystanders in poor communities that have nothing to be able to, no way to be able to defend themselves.

A lot of times because they're law-abiding citizens living in those communities, and the city has passed uh draconian gun laws so they can't get guns even if they can afford them to protect themselves so it's a big problem but i think like one of the things we do when we go through a period of of mass shootings like this is we say how do we stop mass shootings

and what is our goal it's to stop mass shootings well that's that's a wrong goal

right the goal should be keeping people alive

okay how do we keep more people alive?

And the mass shooting thing is a very difficult problem to solve, as we've talked about today.

Some of these people have no red flags.

Some of these people have

had lived, you know, we look at the guy, you know, the guy in Vegas.

We still have no freaking idea why he even did it.

Right.

Let alone a way we could have stopped it in advance.

We have absolutely no idea whatsoever.

Didn't seem to even be fame-seeking.

Just seems to be a guy who wanted to kill a bunch of people for no particular reason.

And so it's very difficult to stop these things in advance.

And what we do is jump immediately to the most

politically difficult things to accomplish.

So the left says this and they say, okay, well, what we want to do is ban certain types of guns.

We want to go up against the other half of the country who disagrees with that.

Instead of just trying to find ways that like generally people agree and can be much more productive.

To give you an example,

40,000 people a year die in car accidents.

40,000 people a year.

4.5 million people a year are seriously injured in car accidents in this country.

I mean, that's a freaking ton.

4.5 million injuries?

It's amazing.

I mean, that is like,

there's, what, that's...

you know, several percent of the population every year.

Okay.

Now,

think about the automated cars issue, for example.

The automated car, the studies they've done on this, they believe that they could reduce that number by 94% when fully implemented.

Now, I love driving my car.

There's a good part of me that loves driving my car.

There's also a part of me that wouldn't mind having a freaking automated car because then I can do work and fall asleep and watch TV.

But there's no massive political movement against that technology.

People are a little skeptical about it.

They're nervous it might not work.

But generally speaking, we get over these humps pretty quickly.

Look what we did with Uber.

I mean, we were like, oh, I would never get in a stranger's car.

Wait, they'll just come to my house and I don't have to.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, I'm in.

Like, that happened in like a year, right?

So these things happen pretty quickly.

Advancing that technology could save 37,000 lives, 38,000 lives a year and 4 million plus injuries every single year without real political opposition.

There's not like one party who's against it and one party's for it.

And you could save all of these lives.

And instead, what we're going to do is fight really hard about

trying to save the mass shooting death total, which probably is going to be, I mean, I think it comes out to about 30.

I know school shootings, I think, is something like 30 people a year die in school shootings,

average over a long period of time.

When it comes to mass shootings, the number is a little higher because you're probably taking some of the school shootings, some of the others.

But I mean, you're talking about a few, you know,

to put it in a really awful way, it's a few people per week probably that die in the United States due to mass shootings.

And we can,

if we pass, let's say, an assault weapons ban, we'll see almost no difference in that number whatsoever.

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Also, joined by

Jeffy.

Hey, have we gotten some four calls today?

A surprisingly small amount have colored so far.

I don't know if they're just not used to it or if they don't trust us.

We're not going to be mad at you when you call four.

It will be fine.

We've made it easy for you to get to us.

Exactly.

What a number.

And it cost us a lot of time and effort.

And we just appreciate it if those who disagree would dial the number four so we could talk to them.

I mean, we hadn't really entertained this, but is it possible that people just don't disagree with us?

It is possible.

All points are perfect and airtight.

I mean, I guess that's not.

And they don't want to embarrass themselves by calling the number four and then just get pulled apart.

I did see Jacob sitting outside the office today with the number four against his head.

Absolutely.

He just wrote it on the side of his face.

Especially after

your little red flag law analogy

where you said that the possible, you know, maybe you,

Stu, Pat, and Glenn were to, you know, I don't know, red flag me.

We did discuss this possibility.

And then maybe I would, you know, maybe I would lose my weapons for only six days.

Or maybe six months.

But see, the flaw to that is if I prove myself okay to the judge, within six days I get my weapons back, then how do you feel?

Exactly.

This does not seem like a thing you want to try.

And plus, I guess they said it was

anonymous, though.

Too.

So you don't even know who did it to you.

Just some rando person.

I mean, think about public public figures.

Yeah.

How easily that would be, you know, people could do that in theory to them.

I mean, there's a lot of problems with that.

I understand there's a lot of problems not doing it too.

So

it's not a crazy idea.

I mean, smart people have advocated for it.

And, you know, conservatives.

But it's, man, it makes me really freaking nervous that the state is going to be able to take your guns away because some rando who doesn't have to identify themselves says you shouldn't have them.

That's not a good

formula issue there, there, I think.

And I know you were talking about Neil deGrasse Tyson and his tweet that he had to end up apologizing for, which was unbelievable that he ended up apologizing for it.

But I know he went down the list of medical errors and flu and suicide and car accidents and just handgun homicides.

But it must have slipped his mind to put an abortion.

Right.

Because that wasn't on the list.

I didn't see that easy.

Yeah, because that's a bigger number than

you might think.

The lowest number is handgun homicide, which was 40.

So what's abortion?

It's a little bit more than that.

A little bit more than that.

Yeah, just a tad.

In any 48-hour period of time, there are.

It can't be more than 500 medical errors.

A teeny bit more.

It's about 12 times more than the 500.

It's 6,000 abortions in two days.

Now, we should point out

disgusting.

Oh, my God.

That's only in the United States, of course.

Yes.

If you want to go globally, 138,868 every two days.

Which is why we use

the stat a lot: that 60 million babies have been killed since 1973 in this country.

The figure worldwide is over a billion.

1.2 billion.

Wow.

And that is like revolting.

It's like so in your stomach.

One-seventh of the current world's population has been aborted since 1973.

And how many are in

the world?

Is it seven?

It's just over seven.

So it'll be one-sixth.

1.2.

We're talking one-sixth of the population.

That is terrifying.

So far, just this year, just this year, 25 million

plus

have been aborted.

Have been aborted worldwide.

Just this year.

And that is a.

Think of that.

But you know what?

Neil, to be fair, Neil did say lives.

And we don't know if these were lives.

That could be broccoli.

That's true.

You have to consider it lives.

It could be Volkswagen parts.

Those certainly aren't alive.

No.

No, no.

No.

Who knows what's in there?

What if you give birth to kitchen utensils?

Right.

Well, you can't call that life.

No, that's not life.

Does it ever become life?

How many women?

You know, you think you're pregnant and then an appliance comes out.

I mean, a toaster oven.

A toaster oven, for instance.

A box.

All right.

Wow.

It's rough.

That's sweet.

It's rough.

It is.

You know, you can concern yourself with abortion or handgun violence, but really what we need to be concerned with is death by mosquito.

Okay?

Right now there are 110 trillion mosquitoes stalking the world.

Did you know that?

100 trillion.

110 trillion.

How do they know that?

So yes, everyone.

Counting everyone.

Yeah, they've got a special mosquito counter.

We're doing a mosquito census right now.

They claim that on average 2 million humans die because mosquito bites every year.

Now last year they said it went down to like 850,000.

West Nile, malaria, you can get all kinds of

diseases from them.

Worms, parasites, I mean,

they're top of the list of what's killing people.

It's amazing.

I mean, you can't even, I mean,

this is why the global warming thing is so frustrating.

I mean, if you put up mosquito nets,

mosquito nets cost you absolutely nothing and would probably prevent 90% of these malaria deaths every year.

And you could save hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives, or

we can all try to reverse civilization and and try to control the temperature.

Yeah.

That's a great one.

Yeah.

That one will work out well.

Here's another thought:

Bug spray.

You know, DDT.

Oh, what?

Let's kill the mosquitoes.

But no.

No, you can't do that.

Because that is hard.

DDT was once banned in the United States.

There's a giant hole in the ozone because had to ban it in Africa, too.

Otherwise, it's discriminatory and racist that we didn't ban it there.

Which a lot of the people who died were like, I think I'd rather be the victim of that type of racism.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

It's

unreal.

So if you were asked, if you were asked, do you think the food that you get delivered, and I know, Stu, you use this, you know, the food delivery apps quite often here.

Oh, yeah.

If you were asked, do you think that your driver

may

dip into your food a little bit, take a bite before he gets a food?

I had not thought of that, though, I will say,

when I'm the Uber driver for my family, oh, some of those fries are disappearing for sure.

So they surveyed 2015 Americans, American survey.

All these people identified as having worked as a deliverer for at least one food delivery app.

The customers all think about 20% say, yeah, the driver's probably eating some of my food.

Oh, no.

I don't know.

The drivers, it's about 28% of the delivery drivers are dipping into the food.

They're just

nibbling on the food.

It's not bad.

Now, if you were a driver, the fries,

nobody's going to notice, right?

Fries are probably okay.

Like, if I could just get away with it, look, they're going to eat some of my fries.

Maybe I'll order an extra order of of fries and market driver.

Just let that you can have that order of fries.

That's a pretty good idea.

Don't dip into the other order of fries.

That's a pretty good idea.

So

they

just couldn't.

54%, we just couldn't resist the smell.

54% order 28%.

54% couldn't resist 28%.

We just couldn't resist the smell.

Do you believe it's only 28%?

That's a lot of people not admitting to what the story is.

I think so, too.

Yeah, 28%.

I think so, too.

Because I never thought of this before, but you're right.

It does sort of.

Now, consumers, they're saying here, according to this, 85% of consumers are now saying that restaurants should employ

tamper-evident labels.

Do we need more?

I mean, it's probably a good idea if you're a restaurant.

It shouldn't come from the government, but it's probably a good idea if you're a restaurant to have something on there that people can't steal stuff out of.

But if I'm a driver, don't I just

have a couple extra tamper-evident stickers and after I tamper, then I put the real one back on?

I mean, not everyone's a criminal mastermind, Jeffrey.

Jeffrey's bowling.

bowling fries trying to figure out a way to scam the system.

It does seem like, you know, the other thing is like, you just, like, if there's like a pasta, you just have a fork in the car all the time.

You just go in and have a couple bites of each thing that rolls on through.

You're never going to pay for food in your life.

It would be tempting with that smell permeating your car every time you're making a delivery.

A delivery later, it's got to get old.

But I mean, on delivery one, you're watching what you do.

On delivery 394, if you're hungry, you're taking a bite.

Right.

Now, you're not going to take a bite of a sandwich, right?

You might just take the sandwich, though.

Right?

I mean, the orders are wrong.

They're talking about

in the survey, they talk about food that's wrong, food that's cold, food that's not cooked, delivering, you know, under, under, it's all under 20%, but you know, they end up, you know, they don't knock at the door when they bring you the food, that kind of thing, you know, if you're delivering it to the house.

But they talk about,

you know, it being cold and not being admitted to.

They bring it to the house and then don't knock or ring.

Set it in front of the door.

Leave.

Why?

Your food's.

But if you have the app, right, you're following the food.

It's telling you where your food is.

Most apps tell you where your food is.

So you should know.

I shouldn't have to tell you that it's at your front door.

That's amazing.

It does seem like a little silly.

Well, you could say, knock.

You could just say, I did knock and no one came.

Right.

So I just left it by the door.

Right.

I mean, I'm sure that's what they do.

That's interesting.

I had not thought of that, and it's a little creepy.

And I know.

What a surprise.

Jeffy creeped me out in this segment.

That's a stunning development.

And also, good news coming from San Francisco airport.

Single-use plastic water bottles are going to be banned as of the 20th of this month.

So you don't have to worry about plastic bottles

tearing up the environment anymore.

Thanks to the San Francisco International Community.

I have been so worried about that.

Thank you.

I woke up in a cold sweat at 1.30 this morning.

Thank you.

Oh, my gosh.

What about the single-use plastic bottles in San Francisco?

And now it's amazing that you have to.

Well, listen, Rachel McCaffrey, the director of Travel Without Plastic, hey, this is a move that will be welcomed by an increasing number of travelers.

Will it?

Will it?

But it's concerned about the impact of plastic having on the environment.

So, you know, I mean,

there's the plastic island out there in the middle of the ocean that's just

a great specific garbage patch.

I just heard it the other day.

I think it was on CNN.

Another person saying, you know what, there's this big

it's just a fact now.

It's a fact.

It's a fact that does not exist.

It's an island of garbage the size of Texas floating around in the Pacific.

It

does not exist.

It's impossible to exist.

It's amazing that.

It's impossible.

I mean, they can see my license plate from space.

We have not seen any proof of this island anywhere.

And by the way,

if you actually read about it, they tell you it doesn't exist.

It's just an idea of there's that much garbage if it was all in one place.

That's the size of it.

Yeah.

Like that is a totally different thing.

And so many people, I guarantee, even in this audience, there are people right now going, wait, that doesn't exist?

That's not a real thing?

No.

Because I, even I, I, I,

half of my career has been talking about environmental claims that are BS.

Right.

And even I believed that there is something in the middle in the ocean because I was told it in like when I was a child.

And then I remember here, I was listening to Pat Gray Unleashed one day, and I remember you talking about it.

I'm like, wait a minute.

That's not even like a.

It's not a thing.

I thought, well, maybe it's exaggerated or, you know, but I'm like, I never have seen a picture of it.

Right.

And after you talked about it, I remember going online, like, and they just straight out say, no, of course there's no island of garbage in the ocean.

That's not how this works.

Yeah.

One of the first to

dispute the fact that it existed and to get rid of this myth was Salon.

I mean, that's as left-wing as you get.

Salon.com.

Come on.

That's not a conservative site.

No, not at all.

Even they did some research into this and said, yeah, it doesn't exist.

I know it helps to say that because the environmental thing, it gets people going.

It's just not true.

It's not true.

It's just not true.

But, you know, we have the water bottles being banned at the airport, but they're still allowing sodas.

You're going to end up having to bring an empty container through 2SA to fill up with their filtered water.

I do like that they're incentivizing soda drinking, though.

That I'm for.

They are doing that.

Did you see it, too, that the McDonald's straw thing?

I think we may have talked about this the other day.

They're like the one people that apparently had nailed the paper straw.

And people were like, you know, this is basically like a plastic straw.

It's not disintegrating in my mouth.

It's actually working.

And they had it.

And then they found out later, yeah, that you can't recycle it.

So all the benefits from the paper straw at McDonald's

went away.

You can't even, it doesn't even recycle.

It'd be better just to use the plastic.

Yes, and that is the case every single time.

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I was surprised a couple

articles on CNN.

The Dayton shooter had an extreme left Twitter feed.

Wow.

Yeah, that is the

title of the story at cnn.com.

Now, I don't know if they're just saying just his Twitter feed was left, maybe he was actually like a right-wing nutjob.

He just kept tweeting left fool face.

Maybe that's what they were saying.

This one I thought was interesting, though.

They did a fact-check on the claim: would stronger background checks have stopped El Paso and Dayton?

And you kind of assumed that CNN would come to the conclusion, of course they would, these are common sense measures.

However, let me throw

a little M.

Night Shyamalan twist here to you.

What if President Trump is saying he supports them?

He's supporting background checks.

So then what do you do?

Then you're in trouble.

Then you're in trouble.

So what's strengthening or expanding backgrounds?

By the way, we already have background checks.

What?

Yeah, we already have background checks.

No, no, no, not if.

In virtually every case.

Not the common sense background check.

Yeah, the common sense background check where they do an FBI background check.

It's only a background check in the way that

it's a check on your background.

Now, are they going to check your background, though?

Is it that expensive?

They will check on the things that you've done back then, you know,

in your past.

In your past.

By the way, one of the exceptions when they say, I want universal background checks, one of the things they're talking about is right now, if you, it's supposed to be an instant check on your background.

Okay.

Let's just say the system's down, though.

Okay.

They have a window of three days to be able to decide, okay, well, we have to hold it off for three days because it's not working.

A universal background check, of course, would check all of these transactions.

So if the system was down, you just wait for it.

It'll come back up.

And then when it comes back up, we'll check you.

So I guess if the system went down for a month or two or 10 or 20 years, oopsies.

You're just going to have to wait.

We're trying really hard to get it back up.

Universal, you guys wanted a universal, so it'll be universal.

That happened all the time under Clinton.

Yeah, that was very common.

By the way, they say, would strengthening or expanding background checks have prevented the alleged shooters from purchasing firearms?

The facts-first explanation, doubtful.

There is no indication that the shooting in Dayton would have been prevented by the background check.

El Paso, he shooter purchased his firearm legally.

There is no evidence that he had criminal history, and a background check would have caught it.

So now that Trump's supporting the background checks, we can all say that finally admit that none of them would work.

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