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Last week, Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled an appearance in Russia to attend an emergency meeting with his defense minister.

Now, this usually would not get an awful lot of attention, but it also coincided with a flurry of other reporting.

Vice President Pence recalled back to the White House at the same time.

Meanwhile, in the Middle East, F-22 Raptors arrived in the Gulf, same time.

And adding to the building hysteria, several blue check marks on Twitter started reporting that the EU Security Council had, like the Russians, called an emergency meeting.

What was this all about?

All we know is something happened that

would cause a catastrophe of a planetary scale.

Well, that was what was reported.

Let me tell you what really happened in one minute.

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So let me tell you now, last week, Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled an an appearance in Russia to attend an emergency meeting with his defense minister

now they said at the same time Vice President Pence was recalled back to the White House and the F-22 Raptors arrived to the Gulf at the same time and then the EU Security Council like the Russians called an emergency meeting

Okay, so let me just give you some let me give you fact check just on that

No, Pence was recalled to the White House for an undisclosed non-national security related issue.

The F-22s had been ordered to the Middle East a long time ago.

And the surprise EU Security Council meeting?

Well,

some of the blue check marks on Twitter should probably do a little homework because the EU doesn't have a Security Council, so there couldn't be an emergency meeting.

Now, there is something that did happen.

The real thing that was going on

was the emergency meeting with the Russian president.

It was called for Putin and his defense minister.

But without all these events going on, this single event might not have gotten attention

that it ended up receiving.

And that would have been a bad thing, quite honestly.

I can guarantee you that Putin is pissed that all of those things happen and people were tweeting about it because globally attention was turned on a government-run secret military project.

That's exactly what we stumbled across last week.

And it's important that you understand what happened.

This is what we know so far.

A Russian nuclear submarine caught fire while operating in the Barents Sea.

Now, that's a coast off of northern Russia.

The nearest countries are Finland and Switzerland.

14 Russian sailors died trying to extinguish that fire that was reportedly localized in the battery compartment.

The sailors were credited by the Russians for preventing, quote, a catastrophic, a catastrophe of planetary scale.

Now, how is that possible?

Well, the first thing we all think of is the word nuclear, submarine, fire.

It's another Chernobyl, right?

But if you were listening to yesterday's program, you know that most of what HBO showed was hysteria.

All right.

This is misinformation.

This is disinformation.

A global catastrophe like Chernobyl is not possible.

Now this is going to sound unsettling, but it's actually not.

There are currently nine nuclear submarines sunk at the bottom of the ocean.

There's one right now just off the east coast of Cape Cod.

It's been there since 1963.

In all, there are two U.S.

and seven Soviet or Russian nuclear subs sitting at the ocean floor.

So what happens to the reactors?

How come the reactors haven't, you know, had the China syndrome?

Well, it's the ocean waters, and they're providing a source of infinite cooling, so they'll never explode.

So, no, the Russian sailors, although very brave and heroic for you know, perishing to save their ship, did not save the world from a planetary-scale disaster.

This again is disinformation, it's it's misdirection.

Look over here, look over here.

If attention

is being diverted intentionally,

what's the real story?

Attention is being moved through misdirection to get you off of the trail of the Russian submarine.

Now this submarine is very special.

It's much smaller than the typical submarine.

With its nuclear reactor, it can stay submerged for very long periods of time.

It is considered one of the quietest submarines in the Russian fleet, and it was built to go much deeper than any other underwater submersible with two separate ship holes.

So, in other words, imagine almost like a catamaran.

It's got two hulls of two ships, two submarines linked together.

Now, why would the Russians want a small nuclear-power submarine that can skirt the ocean floor for long periods of time?

And why is this project so secret?

Well,

I think most everybody except this audience is going to be really surprised when the next great war between major powers breaks out.

I have talked to you for a long time about being prepared.

Being prepared, say food, store, water, gas, secure some sort of power source, get off the grid.

Why?

Because World War III, or the next major war, is going to be unlike anything we've ever fought before.

It is cyber warfare.

Remember, World War I was unlike any war the world had ever fought before.

It was the introduction of tanks.

At the end of World War I, there were almost no horses left anywhere in Europe.

Because everybody grabbed their horse and they went to war.

Well, a horse isn't going to stand up against a tank.

And so most of the horses were slaughtered in Europe.

Also,

the introduction of chemical warfare and gas warfare that had never been seen before.

And it shocked the world.

This time, cyber warfare is going to shock the world.

And it's going to shock the world because everything is going to change.

If you would look at a map of the ocean floor today,

it would almost look like a giant circuit board.

Underwater communication cables stretch out from New York all the way to Europe, from the West Coast to Asia, and literally everywhere in between.

It's how we are so interconnected.

It's how you can Skype with someone in Africa or visit a website in Poland.

And the underwater circuit board, if you will, began a long, long time ago in 1854 with the installation of the first transatlantic telegraph cable.

These communication lines have been laid for decades and they have been targets for decades.

They've been targeted for spies ever since.

Think about it with just the telegraph cable.

If you're Germans and you wanted to hear what America and England were talking about in World War I, all you have to do is just tap into the telegraph table, right?

Well, that's what this is.

During the Cold War, a U.S.

submarine, the USS Halibut, successfully located and tapped a Soviet line during Operation Ivy Bells.

That is the foreshadowing of what is coming now.

Our internet, our interconnected world depends on the flows, the flow of ones and zeros.

And they are currently racing at the speed of light under our oceans.

This Russian submarine was built to take advantage of that.

They can locate and attach themselves to these deep cables.

They can siphon off all of the information.

They can insert malware to attack anything from the electrical grid to the water supply stations to the Defense Department.

And when the information has all been stolen and the weapons have all been unleashed, they can sever the cables and leave us in the dark.

This is modern-day warfare, deep under the sea, which is as unknown to most people as the dark side of the moon.

This will be a first-strike weapon.

And I don't think we're anywhere close to understanding it as people.

I hope our Pentagon is on it.

I'm sure they are.

But remember,

Vladimir Putin said, we're already in World War III.

The West just doesn't understand it yet.

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You know, I was having dinner with some people the other night, and we were talking about, you know, the world and politics and what we think are going to, you know, the future holds.

And

everybody asked me, so are Texans awake yet on how much money is being poured into Texas to make that

a blue state?

And I said, no, no, I don't think they are.

I think Texans are just like the rest of America was in 2007 and 8, oblivious.

And they're just like, oh, no, that'll never happen.

Yeah, we can never have those things happen.

I don't think they understand how close Texas really is

to being a blue state.

It's very purple right now.

Do you think so?

Because

I'm not sure about that.

I keep hearing.

Texas is blue.

Texas is turning blue.

It's a battleground state.

If you look back at the Betto and Cruz election,

you know, the left plays the game really well where they just keep repeating the same lie until a pretty decent segment of Americans believe them.

But just because they say it over and over and over and over again doesn't make it true.

I could say monkeys are flying out my butt every day.

That doesn't make it true.

It's just,

but it is true.

In that particular, that's a bad example.

That is a bad example.

So, wait a minute.

Go back to the election with Ted and Betto.

Ted was re-elected essentially by 51-48, so about three points.

And the media said, oh, wow, just a three-point victory in Texas?

Well, Texas is in play.

We keep trying to tell you.

But let's not forget what was going on at the time.

For whatever reason, Betto was the darling of

and the rock star of the Democrat Party.

He'd raised over $80 million, an all-time record for a Senate campaign.

The vast majority of that came from out of state.

The day after the election, he had about $1.98 left in his account.

I mean, he spent every penny pretty much.

And he outspent Ted at least two to one, maybe three to one, and lost.

Even though he had all the momentum, he had an adoring media on his side, locally and nationally, every step of the way.

And you add to that the fact that Ted had some ser

we

forget sometimes, he had some serious issues at the time.

Namely, he had just pissed off all of the Trump supporters because of the rough campaign they had against each other, including the fact that Ted refused to endorse Trump at the GOP convention.

Okay, that they were really angry about that.

So then, what was it, a week and a half later, he turned around and did a 180, which didn't really please the Trump fans because it wasn't at the convention.

And now, suddenly, he just angered his entire base of conservatives.

So,

the Democrats hated his guts from the beginning.

And just to tie the other hand behind his back, too, before the election, he alienated everybody who would potentially be on his side in a normal election.

But even with all of that,

even with all of that,

I mean, he had every reason to lose, I think.

He had nearly everybody turned on him, and he still won the election.

So I'm not sure I believe the Texas is turning blue thing.

So I do.

And I do because I've talked to many of the Republican players who, you know, for instance, the governor who is really paying attention to this.

And

the money that is being spent in Texas to turn us blue.

Yeah, I do.

And

it's not only the money that's happening.

You know, we've had a, what is it, a 48% increase in illegals in Texas over the last couple of years.

I mean, it's

incredible what's happening to our to our state.

And

as always, the progressives take the cities.

They have Austin.

They have Dallas now.

They have Houston.

And, you know, it's

they grow and grow and grow.

They've had the metropolitan areas for quite a while, though.

You know, it's always been the suburbs.

Yes, I know.

Correct.

But you're taking an influx of mass amounts of illegals and mass amounts of Californians are coming in.

We're getting a thousand people a week from California moving into Texas.

And that's not counting.

That's just the population growth.

That's not counting the people who

are being affected by the money.

I just don't think that Texans are aware of the efforts.

And I think people are lulled into this false sense of security of saying Texas will always be.

It'll always be red.

It'll always be red.

I don't think it will be if we don't pay attention to it.

I mean, that part is true, because like the Constitution, it doesn't just protect itself.

And Texas doesn't just protect itself.

We have to do the work, both with the Constitution and with Texas.

you're right, we do have to be aware of the efforts

because they would like nothing.

I mean, if they do win Texas, then it's over, right?

You will never win another national election.

No.

No.

You flip Texas.

That's me.

You flip the country.

And

it is truly the line in the sand.

And it's interesting because Texas is where that phrase came from.

Davey Crockett drawing a line in the sand

at the Alamo.

Texas is the line in the sand for the Republic.

If you lose Texas, you lose the Republic.

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I'm up here this week.

My daughter is performing with the Millennial Choir and Orchestra at Carnegie Hall on Friday.

And I'm so excited to be sitting in the audience watching my daughter on the stage of Carnegie Hall.

This is an amazing choir.

And we're so excited to be here.

They're doing two nights,

Friday and Saturday at Carnegie Hall.

And so we're up here.

And I'm also taking my daughters and my granddaughter each night.

I'm going out because they started the stupid tradition when they were like six

of taking them out to a Broadway show.

And every year we would go and they wanted dad to wear a tuck so they could wear a fancy dress.

And so we're still doing that.

And they're now in their 30s.

Hannah is, I think, 26

and maybe 27.

And

we, last night, we went.

And, you know, look at me.

I look like an old man.

I've got solid white hair.

I look like Colonel Sanders, for the love of Pete.

So I'm standing there in a tux, which the only people there in a tux.

And she's in this really fancy, sparkly outfit that she had.

And she doesn't necessarily, thank God for her, look like me.

And so we were laughing, Tanya and I were laughing about how everybody's going to think that this creepy old man, I mean, it was like Jeffrey Epstein.

I was like, hey, yeah,

I'm on the Lolita flight a little later.

And

these couples, they all were looking at me.

All these older people were looking at me with disgust.

And I'm like,

is that because you know who I am or because you don't know who I am and you think I'm on date with this pretty young, you know, 20-something, or is it that you know who I am and you think I'm on a date with a 20-something?

So I'm standing there, and finally, this lady gets some courage, and her husband is just giving me the just the devil look the whole time.

And he walks away in disgust, and my daughter happens to move away.

And this woman comes up to me and she said, so

what's the special occasion?

We've been wondering, because you're all dressed up with that pretty young woman on your arm.

And I said, now I'm thinking to myself,

it would be really funny if I said, yeah, just like I'm young.

You know, I'm on that lolita plane.

Jeffrey Epstein,

he introduced us a little while ago.

But I decided to say, no, I'm on a father-daughter date, and that's my daughter.

And you could see the woman when I said that, you could see the woman.

She just changed.

She was like, oh, thank God.

Because we thought you were really creepy.

And

she's like, oh, that is so wonderful.

Oh, that's the sweetest thing.

And she totally changes.

And then I looked at her and I said, you know, but

I mean, I did buy dinner, and so it's a good thing she puts out.

No, I didn't say that, but I

really wanted to say that, but I didn't.

I was,

I behaved myself.

Do you think she knew who you were?

And was disgusting?

No idea.

Or did just be a little bit of a double-shaped case?

I have absolutely no idea.

She was like,

I don't know because she said

she was testing my cultural

expertise, and I made her sick.

I just know I made her sick.

She said,

so what other shows have you seen this season?

I'm like, oh, shut up, you pretentious.

And I said, well, I just went to Frozen, which I knew drove her out of her mind.

She was like, oh.

And I said, and they're going to see Wicked tomorrow.

She was like, oh, my gosh,

I would have rather thought of you having sex with that young girl than this.

Anyway, let's talk a little bit about politics here.

Joe Biden quickly losing black voters' support.

However, he is picking up steam.

He's back to 15-point lead in some of the polls.

He's back up to 30%,

which is

fascinating to me.

In a field of 25 people, yeah, that's it's amazing.

It's amazing.

Well, I mean, if you look at the field, there's really only a field of four people.

It's Biden, it's Harris, it's

Sanders, Warren,

Sanders, and Warren.

That's it.

Everybody else is like at 1%.

And I love this because

any other candidate is now currently at 3%.

So

half, more than half of the field is being beaten by anybody but you.

And no name attached at all.

Right.

It's just someone else.

No name.

It's just someone else.

Which to me shows the lack of diversity in this and the lack of credibility of any of these.

I mean, I don't think you would have gotten anyone else.

I never saw a poll that asked that.

Maybe they did and they never printed it.

But I don't think you would have gotten that with the Republican field.

We had a huge Republican field and everybody I know was happy with the selection.

Everybody was like, this is the best selection we've had.

You know, usually we get Jeb Bush and, you know, Neil Bush and George Bush.

We're like, okay, do we have a deeper field than this?

Could you at least put Tito Marlon and Jermaine Bush in there, too?

I would like that.

And so I don't think you would have gotten that with the Republicans, but you have it now.

And there is a huge battle going on for the heart of the Democratic Party.

I don't know if you saw what the BET founder said.

Did you see this?

I didn't.

Okay, the BET founder.

Okay, that's the black entertainment television founder.

And we know how they were under Barack Obama.

They loved it.

They loved everything that was going on.

This is the founder, and I want to quote, if I can, what he said.

Now listen to the way he couches this.

The party, in my opinion, for me personally.

Okay, we got it.

We got it.

You're just saying it's me.

It's just me.

It's me.

It's me.

It's not you.

The party, in my opinion, for me personally, has moved too far to the left.

Wow.

And for that reason, I don't have a particular candidate that I'm supporting in the party at this time.

I think at the end of the day, if a Democrat is going to beat Trump, then that person he or she is going to have to move to the center, and you can't wait too long to do that.

That's incredible.

He goes on to say,

I think the economy is doing great.

I think the economy is doing great.

And it's reaching populations that heretofore had very bad problems in terms of jobs and employments and the opportunities that come with employment.

So African American unemployment is now at its lowest level.

This is the head of BET.

He goes on.

I give the president a lot of credit for moving the economy in a positive direction that is benefiting a large amount of Americans.

I think the tax cuts clearly helped stimulate the economy.

I think business people have more confidence in the way the economy is going.

End quote.

That's

astounding.

Did we slip through a worm?

Did we slip through a wormhole last night?

Wow.

That is incredible.

Absolutely incredible.

That sounds like he intends to vote for Trump, doesn't it?

If you just heard that quote, you would think that's a Trump supporter.

Trump supporter.

That's remarkable.

Then you have people, and see, they really don't understand this.

AOC is nothing but a Twitter farm.

Now,

she has her little lambs and her little sheep that follow her

beyond Twitter and in places like New York City.

But America is, believe me, I'm here.

America is not New York City.

It's just not.

And they are playing to this very small number

in these cities like New York.

And

it's just not cool in other parts.

I don't even think it's cool in Chicago and places like Chicago.

They are just too far left.

And they think that they can get away with anything.

Let me give you this from Elon O'Marr.

She told a group of high school students in a story, which she claims she witnessed.

She said, it's a story of America's injustice and racism.

But the Washington Post decided to look into it.

Let me say that again.

The Washington Post, not the examiner, the Post,

discovered that this story isn't true.

The Washington Post reports that Omar was speaking to an audience of 400 high school students when she told of visiting Minneapolis in a courtroom where she witnessed a sweet old African-American lady who had spent the weekend in jail for stealing a $2 loaf of bread

just to feed her starving five-year-old granddaughter.

I believe this is the plot of Les Miserables.

I don't think.

Did she get an extra 17 years for trying to escape?

Did she get her yellow ticket of leave?

This is

this is les miserables.

She said the woman was fined $80 for that crime.

And she said, I could not control my emotions.

I stood up in the courtroom and I said, bull crap.

Except she didn't use the word crap.

Now,

it's not true because city officials

have told the Washington Post that police are not allowed to arrest people for shoplifting.

Think of this.

This is a whole nother problem.

They're not allowed to arrest people for shoplifting unless there's a likelihood of violence or further crime.

Typically, shoplifters are sentenced to attend a three-hour class.

So when the reporters from the Washington Post went to Omar and said, hey,

this isn't true.

She said, well, I may have flubbed a few facts, like maybe any of it actually happening.

She said, I might have flubbed a few facts.

The woman convicted of the crime might have had a prior arrest.

I'm not sure.

The details may not have all matched, but that's what I remember.

Oh, is it?

Now, this isn't the first time.

Recently, she told a group of veterans that about 45% of military families rely on food stamps.

She had one number right.

It's 5%,

not 45%.

And last month, in an attempt to bring attention to a gun control bill, she tweeted that 500 people on average

are killed every single day by a gun in the United States.

No.

No.

Nope.

Nope.

That would mean 182,000 people died from gun deaths in the United States every year.

182,000.

The number is a little smaller than that.

It's 39,000.

And most of those, 60% of those, were suicides.

Suicides.

So,

and I think they're just overplaying their hand.

I think they are.

I think they've become,

oh.

I just think they are just becoming so toxic.

You know,

a couple of the guys went to the gym here in New York, and they were at the gym.

And this woman who was

like running the gym, or she was doing a class or something, she was working out with these women right next to the guys.

And she loudly said for them to hear, it was intentional, oh, I just hate men.

Men are worthless.

They are so ugly, and I just hate them.

What is that?

And I think that is that is being heard throughout the land, things like that, and Americans just don't like it.

They're not like that, and they don't want any part of it.

I'm convinced of it.

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she's sexist against women?

To which AOC claimed patriarchy has no gender.

Which

then make it.

Seem like.

Well, it could be the patriarchy that too.

And I guess the answer to that is no.

No.

So patriarchy

has no gender.

Does matriarchy

have a gender?

Or

do we know?

Of course it does.

Of course it does.

Of course it does.

Stupid, I'm sorry.

Loving.

Stupid.

You're so stupid.

It revolves around women.

Of course it is.

So it's perfect and wonderful.

Patriarchy, yes.

It's perfect and wonderful, has no flaws.

Patriarchy, on the other hand, is riddled with flaws.

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So Kellyanne Conway said yesterday that,

or I'm sorry, that AOC said that Kellyanne Conway was sexist

and and coming after her.

She's part of the patriarchy.

And someone responded, wait a minute, Kellyanne is sexist against women.

That makes sense.

And AOC responded, patriarchy has no gender.

Pape.

Isn't it patriarchy?

That's the main, right?

Isn't this the whole patriarchy has no gender.

If you feel like you can't make heads or tails out of what the hell hell people are talking about, there's a reason for that.

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this guy is either a covert op that's making us all think that he is on our side, but he's actually not,

or he's the bravest guy I think I've ever met.

And he turns out,

I mean, this is what he wants me to believe.

He turns out to be

a guy who is really, truly brave and honest.

And his name is Michael Rechtenwald.

And he was a professor at NYU

who

lost his gig at NYU.

It had nothing to do with him taking on the system.

They made that very clear, did they not, Michael?

Yes.

You started tweeting.

That's right.

And what were some of your tweet tweets?

No, I mean,

I tweeted things like, you know, social justice warriors.

There's a bunch of little Stalins running around.

You know, just imagine that.

And then wake up and realize, yes, you're in that world.

You have a bunch of Stalins running around.

They're just Stalin just weirder.

SJW.

So I was trying to get at the idea, like we were dealing with a bunch of...

you know,

authoritarians all over the place.

And things like that.

And I I talked about some of the craziness going on on campuses, for example.

You know, the establishment of segregated dormitories, you know, where they were, you know, African-American-only dorms, you know, like a reversal of things that were supposedly progressive, you know, or moving forward.

And

the Halloween costume insanity where you couldn't dress up as anything, you know, that might be appropriating of some culture.

Meanwhile, you have the left dressing up as a new person every day.

Right.

I mean, so they're changing their identities on the fly.

Right.

But nobody can wear a Halloween costume for a night.

And you were a guy, you were one of the most popular

professors at NYU, which is not exactly a conservative school.

You're not a conservative or weren't a conservative.

Really, no.

And

you actually wrote white papers

for communists.

For Marxists.

And

you wrote that.

You told me you wrote those things because in theory,

right?

In theory,

communism is great.

Yeah.

But in practice, it never works.

Right.

I was with like a group that called themselves left or libertarian communists and everybody on the other side of the middle thinks that's complete oxymoron, of course.

Right.

But they believe that like the workers of their own accord, without like the vanguardists or as the leaders, like the Bolsheviks taking charge, that if it all has spontaneously erupted from the bottom up, then it'll be workers will have like control of everything, and it's just wonderful.

And of course,

there's no greed, there's no evil, there's no bad people amongst the workers.

They're all pure.

They're all pure, they're all saints.

I mean, so what it is, is you're born, whatever rank and class you're born into in the world, according to the left, that basically sanctifies you, in effect.

So that, you know, it's just a very weird theology.

Right.

And you were part, and you were part of it.

You were part of it, absolutely.

When you realized that people were serious and they were starting to go for actual communism.

Yeah.

Well, actually, when they were starting to go for people's heads, you know, starting to

talk and act and attack people in the way that like the Red Guard did in the Cultural Revolution under Maoism from 66 to 76 and just insanity, where they just routed out everything and they started destroying all the cultural artifacts, the historical, anything that represented historical memory, tradition, convention, it had to be razed to the ground.

And I saw the same things happening here, like literature being thrown out of the curriculum.

You know, of course, we see statues being defaced, all kinds of historical memory being erased.

It's to me, it started to seem like the same.

What was Mao's purpose for doing that?

Well, he was very self-motivated.

First of all, he was trying to eliminate any competition that he was having within the party.

So if he got all these Red Guard,

and they were all students, very, very, you know, gullible and enthusiastic and crazy, and he got them like, hey, guess what?

You can go in and basically overthrow the classroom.

How would you like to go in and kick your teacher out?

Or how would you like to put them on trial?

That's happening.

Yeah.

That's happening now in America.

And so he actually turned

the populace against the state, against the very social order itself,

to dissolve it so that he would have absolute supremacy.

Which

who is the Mao of our time?

How is this?

How is this

happening?

It's

yeah, there's a lot of mini maus.

I call them mini mouse.

Sorry, like mini mouse.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because there's no big figures like this that are that are able to, I mean, you have, you know, you have the

North Korean leader, but I mean, that doesn't count.

We're talking about like in our world, there's a few people.

I mean, there's a lot of people.

So where's it coming from?

It's coming from these people that are tapping into their moral superiority and their authoritarian impulses and

their moral probity.

They think they're absolutely right, and they think they have the truth on their side, and they're on the right side of history.

This is the key.

If you're on the right side of history, because they think history is going in a direction, happens to be the direction they want it to go in.

You know, it's called, this is called Whiggish history because that's how the Whigs thought in Great Britain.

They thought that there was a progress narrative of history.

And of course, the progress was all going the way towards their types of policies.

And this is the same thing these people hold.

They hold this progress narrative.

It's all going their way.

Basically, anything new is good, including any new genders,

anything, but anything not new is cis or X.

Right.

You know, and

just like in the Soviet Union, they started calling, you know, during the Great Terror, anybody that was designated as an X EX, that is your ex-official, X this, X, that, from another, from the earlier regime, you were going to the gulag.

So I say that cis is kind of like the equivalent of X.

It's a way of marking the antiquated who must go down.

How the obvious question here, Michael, how do these people who say they're fighting against authoritarians,

how do they not see

that they are exactly what they despise?

It's amazing.

If I was a cartoonist, I would draw a picture of an antifa

character who's looking in a mirror

and he sees on his forehead a swastika.

Because they are absolutely replicas of what they think they're against.

They are the brown shirts or the black shirts.

Yeah, it's very frightening.

But what's frightening about it is the unself-consciousness of that.

How is the self-delusion so thick that you could actually be the incarnation of what you think you're against?

A lot of people will say that it was people like you work around or may have been on the campuses that are...

that are just filling people's heads with gobbledygooks.

I can't even tell you.

I mean, it's so sad.

To me, it's so sad what's happened.

I think that, like, for example, what happens to the college curricula, they've turned it into, like,

basically, it's a moral program based on social justice as the main creed.

And they've rid anything that doesn't fit.

You know, like, for example, at SOAS in London, it's a university that they threw out all white male philosophers from the philosophy curriculum.

Okay.

That's all Western philosophy.

That's everybody.

Yeah, that's everything.

There isn't much, you know, maybe it leaves

Anne Rand, but I mean, I'm not going to teach her.

No, huh?

So there's not much left.

And, you know, whatever reason, still, you know, these are people that contributed a great deal to our society

and our culture.

You read Plato today and you can learn a lot.

Oh, yeah.

And I mean,

however you want to think about it, you know, there is a great connection between

Plato's Platonic thinking and Christianity, for example.

There's a great deal of connection there.

Whether you think that Christianity borrowed from it or it was a precursor that sort of set the stage,

it works either way, but it definitely is deeply foundational to the way we are.

So how many people, this is the argument I think

people are having in themselves, or unfortunately, it's keeping them blind because they think that

there's not enough people that actually believe in these things.

And so they're going to, you know, this is just going to stop at some point.

And you do see evidence that people are waking up because they're pushing way too far.

Right.

But how many people do you think on the campuses, if you look at it, you know, through polls, 70, 80% are buying into it.

Yeah.

What I heard was at NYU, the students would tell me that the worst places weren't even the classrooms, the dormitories where the students were self-patrolling each other in the social justice creed and they were correcting each other if they you know were saying or doing or acting in a wrong way according to the creed and so there was a lot of like censorship going on within the dormitories and stuff like that and like a lot of you know like blackballing students and it was sounded like a horror show and i was i was living the worst of it as a professor who was not you don't get out in four years

unless they throw you out right uh you know they only have a short term there it's not going to last forever but you know i had to live with that and uh

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So, Michael, I think a lot of people think,

where the hell did that come from?

Where did that word come from?

All of a sudden, you know, the patriarchy is something we're talking about, and we never talked about that before.

Right.

And the patriarchy has no gender.

Well, then, what is it?

Yeah, they'd like to keep it nebulous, you know, because then they can move it around

and put it on anybody.

But yeah, but the patriarchy was supposedly, you know, of course, domination by the patriarchs, by male, you know, authority figures and so forth.

And the West does not have a patriarchy.

This is very clear.

There are some...

The Middle East has a patriarchy.

Yes, it does.

That is a patriarchy.

And interestingly enough, the Western feminists have no problem with...

With the Eastern patriarchy.

Yes, so they don't critique it, and they actually will scold you severely if you talk about the hijab and anything like that.

So

it's a very weird thing.

The reason why they keep it this way, like so the patriarchy has no gender, so they can paste it on anybody.

Particularly what they like to do is people that are supposed to be in a victim class and don't behave properly for that victim class category, they go after those people with more vengeance than they do anyone.

And that's the scariest thing.

Like,

you know,

the president of the Heritage Foundation, an African-American woman, Kay Jones, I think it was her last name.

She was elected to be on the advisory board of Google, right?

And because she is conservative, the Google, what I call them, the red guard within the Google woke force, as I put it in the book, they went mad.

I mean, and they called her everything from,

you know,

transphobe and all that.

to a white supremacist.

They went after her with more vehemence than they go after the oppressors.

So this just shows me that they're not interested in serving the subordinated.

And I'm not saying there aren't subordinated people in this world.

What I'm saying is the left uses them.

They're just props.

Oh, yeah.

And

historically speaking,

do we wake up from this before it's too late?

Let's just say this.

The waking up is going to be scary for a lot of people, and I think it's going to have to be like they're going to be woken up by knocks on the door, in effect, metaphorically, you know, at night.

You know, just like when the

checkup starts coming to your door and hauling you off to the view log, not effectively in the exact same way, but the more people that are going to be ripped down, called down, ripped me-tooed, whatever.

Right.

The people that are right now um being uh

you know kicked off of of twitter kicked off of youtube facebook everything else they include people like you you know they include people who are effective and from you know formally from their group yeah when you when you wake up and come out and go wait a minute wait a minute this is really dangerous They stifle you.

And at some point, I mean,

the Niebuller poll is true.

At first, they came for the trade unionist, and I wasn't a trade unionist, so I didn't care.

That's right, exactly.

Until they come for you.

You know, I wasn't even talking about my type.

I'm talking about like African Americans, like, for example, Candace Owens, who doesn't behave properly, according to the victim.

Kanye West.

Yes.

And,

you know, even Clarence Thomas, I mean, it just would not.

conform.

And so they,

you know, he said, you know, he went through an electronic lynching.

Now it's a digital lynching and digital disappearances, which is really what scares me.

Yeah, the depersonization.

Yes,

depersoning or unpersoning.

Yeah, unpersoning.

Because once everybody is, and first of all, they've made the public sphere basically irrelevant or limited to the digital sphere.

So there's nowhere to really get to anybody with any message outside of the digital sphere.

Then they have complete control over it, and it's privatized.

So there's no state sanctions of anything.

There's no rights.

And so they're just erasing any opinions that they don't like.

And what's crazy is so many people in Silicon Valley that I've talked to, they all talk about the end of the nation state.

They want it.

They want it.

Because of that, there is no constitution.

There are no laws.

They make the laws and they'll be able to shape society any way they want.

I've never, I'm a capitalist.

I've never been one that jumps on these

anti-capitalist, anti-corporate kind of bandwagons.

But these corporations are truly becoming frightening.

Yeah.

Because, and they're telling us what they're going to do.

I want to get into that with you when we come back.

We're going to take a quick break.

I'm back with Michael Rechtenwald.

He's got a new book out that is talking about the digital ghetto, if you will, the walls that are being built.

And it's...

It's pretty frightening and pretty amazing and something that everybody should read.

We'll get into that coming up in just a second.

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We're talking to Michael Rechtenwald.

He is a former professor at NYU, a guy who knows the left because he was inside the left and is now using their language,

exposing them

to, and I think hopefully to many who are on the left, exposing and having them see, oh, crap, I'm on the wrong side.

Yeah.

Tell me the name of your book.

It's called Google Archipelago, and there's a subtitle, The Digital Gulag and the Simulation of Freedom.

There was another book similar in title.

And

if you know what it is, it's a little breathtaking to use that title.

The Gulag Archipelago.

As opposed to Google.

That's correct.

Obviously intentional.

Yes.

And

you're going to get a lot of pushback.

Yeah, I'm ready.

Are you?

Yeah, okay.

And you say that Google is

doing the same thing

that the Soviets were doing, just in a different way.

Yes, I mean, I say very clearly from the start that, listen, when I say Gulag and I'm comparing Google to Gulag, I'm not saying that it's a prison camp that will have necessarily assassinations,

forced labor,

slavery, and effect is what it was.

Interesting for a workers' paradise,

and so on and so forth.

I'm saying that

as the Gulag was

the most articulated high-tech power structure and control mechanism in the world at the time, so Google Archipelago, as I call it, is the most widespread, powerful, and far more penetrating and far more extensive system of control and power.

We had dinner the other night with a group of people and China came up and

there was somebody at the table who just would not

give that China is this horrible monster

because, hey, they're using the free market and they're pulling all these people up.

The way they're using the digital surveillance is truly terrifying.

Most people, he didn't, he was a very smart individual.

He didn't even really understand what was coming.

And let's talk just a little bit about the silencing of voices and where that's headed.

We're already seeing the silencing of voices.

We're seeing credit card companies and banks starting to get involved and saying, this person, you can't do business with them anymore.

That's right.

When you have

lost your

status, so you cannot be heard, you can't access the mainstream conversation,

you're being erased as if you've never existed, all of the stuff you've ever written or said or done or anything gone.

And now you can't access financial services, aren't you in a gulag?

This is a frightening prospect.

I mean, you know,

there's, of course, the surveillance.

There's the tracking of everything you'll ever do.

There is the, you know, there's going to be basically everyone will have a digital signature.

When you walk outside, my argument is that you'll be, we are going to be in the internet.

This idea of going on the internet will be so quaint.

It's the internet.

And anachronistic.

I mean, the internet is going to be everywhere.

It's cyberspace everywhere, effectively.

So everywhere you go, you're going to be a piece of data that is tracked.

And every move you make will be known.

In China, China, they have this.

They have digital fences for people whose social credit score

is not high enough to leave the city, for example, or even say the neighborhood.

Or go to grocery shopping.

Yes, so they, what they do is they set, there's an immediate alert sent to the proper authorities and they pick them off the street.

Right.

You know, so China is exporting their AI already.

The city are.

They're trying to get

all of the countries to buy into it.

The first place that bought into it, interestingly, is a town called Darwin, Australia.

They bought into the smart city idea.

They said they were more concerned for their safety, that safety was such a concern to them, that I guess they were willing to forfeit liberty entirely.

And that's pretty curious.

We have some people in our country, you know, in our history that our tradition have talked about that.

Yeah, right.

Franklin said you will lose both and deserve neither.

That's right.

So

bring it to Google and show how Google is

doing this.

Yeah.

First of all, I want to say that Google is just an emblem, right?

So that's why I call it the Google Archipelago.

The whole chain of islands.

Yes, that's right.

There's big digital, and it consists of all of these gargantuan digital.

People don't talk about Amazon as part of it as part of it, but they are part of it.

They're part of it.

Yeah.

It's harder to work them in, but they're doing things that are very similar.

If you don't do business like they want, if you don't practice this, that, and the other thing, you're correct.

But they also,

I mean, they are going to be

a, in their own words, a delivery company more than a sales company.

They're going to just deliver it before you buy it.

That's right.

Which means they have to have so much information on you that they can predict you 95% of the time.

They're going to use algorithms

to mail,

to sell immediately to people products they haven't decided to buy yet, but the algorithms have said they will buy.

Right.

And they'll send it to your house.

Which leads you to the question,

where is the tail and where is the head?

Because

with Google and all these algorithms, they're going to be marketing to you.

They're going to know you so well.

They're going to be marketing to you.

And before you know it, you want that product that's just arrived at your door.

But do you really want it or have you been shaped to want that?

Yes.

There's a big question of whether you've been led down an algorithmic trail over time through particular processes of presenting this, that, and the other thing to you and excluding many other things, of course.

And a lot of the things, of course, that are excluded are alternative ideas to theirs.

Sure.

I mean, let's not get forget, they have an explicit political agenda.

They're not some neutral collector and distributor of information.

They have this agenda to make the world better, improve the world, whatever, in their sense, which is, you know, based on, again, the social justice creed all the way down the line.

And so

this is the steering they're doing.

They're steering you through algorithms.

And so

there's going to be the idea of whether you're, you know, there's going to be a question about free will very shortly.

Oh, yeah, very shortly.

Whether it exists, because if you're being algorithmically

led and steered and all your choices can be predicted in advance by these algorithmic patterns,

then

this causes a philosophical problem, but also the question of like,

who's running me here?

Correct.

Yeah.

And,

you know, for anybody who's listened to me for a long time, I used to talk about Cass Sunstein and, you know, his work on nudge.

And it's always bothered me that political people were using nudge, that we were being nudged as a society just by putting the french fries in the back and the apples in the front.

Well, this is a much more sophisticated nudge to where you won't be able to find it.

I mean, try to find some information.

If you can't find it after a couple of searches on Google, you just think it doesn't exist.

That's right.

It's buried.

They have blacklists for everything.

Now, I want to say one thing to qualify where I'm coming from.

I'm not a Luddite.

I'm not a technophobe.

I worked for five years in an AI lab as a writer in the Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon while I was writing my dissertation simultaneously.

So I know where

this...

all came from.

I studied it.

I was at the Newell Simon.

I love this.

The technology that is coming our way is going to either enslave us unlike any time ever before,

or it's going to free us unlike anything anyone's ever imagined.

I say this, these dystopian possibilities are just that.

I'm not saying this is inevitable.

If I thought it was inevitable, I wouldn't write the book.

But, Michael, it is becoming more and more inevitable because it's moving so fast.

And unless people wake up right now

and educate themselves on what is really happening, we're just going to accept it one thing after another because it's going, it's 1984 is happening in China.

We're brave new world.

It's being wrapped up in things that we like.

That's right.

Toronto.

has already bought into the sidewalk project of Alphabet, Google's partner.

Sidewalk is like the smart cities of China.

It tracks every, it says that, in fact, they'll not only know what kind of porch furniture you have, how long it takes you to cross the street, what exactly your habits and every move you make, and they're buying it because they think it's wonderful that there's so much knowledge to be had.

But when the knowledge is about like intimate details of people's lives, and that it's contained in the cloud, in this very centralized place, which is like, you know, owned by

a private organization.

And they're changing the laws of Toronto to do this.

I have to tell you, I don't know why we haven't passed a law already saying my private individual information about me belongs to me.

It's not going to be possible.

That law

can't happen.

We're already carrying along a digital package that's basically our history.

They're going to

have a signature, which I think will be maybe part genetic and maybe part digital, that will also be attached to an informational package that effectively is every move you've ever made.

And then, of course, we'll have predictive algorithms connected to it.

We're getting to the precog crimes of

that minority report.

Yeah, minority report.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Because

they're going to be saying, yeah, this person

is 99.9% likely to do this now or soon.

And so what are they going to do?

They're going to have a rationale for picking them up.

Unbelievable.

Michael, thank you so much.

Michael's going to be joining me for another podcast.

If you want to see the podcast he's already been on, it is really, truly fascinating.

It's his whole story about trying to get out of the Matrix, if you will.

And you can listen to it

wherever you get your podcast.

Just look for the Glenn Beck podcast and Michael Reckenwald.

Mike, when is your book come out again?

It'll be out in mid-August.

So, you know, but pre-order now,

it's going to be out soon.

It's really an important book and really, really, you're a great writer.

Really, really well written.

And you can find that at Amazon.

Michael Reckenwald, thank you so much.

Thank you, Glennwald.

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He's interesting, like always, and really ballsy.

He says things that nobody else will, other than maybe you.

Well, people don't like to say that.

You don't pay attention to the things.

Yeah.

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Have you seen that the

digital erasing of the history now of Bill Clinton and the plane with Epstein?

Oh, they're definitely worried are they?

Are they erased?

Oh, are they scared?

Oh, my gosh.

Wikipedia has already changed everything.

They've taken Bill Clinton's trips out.

She had 27 trips.

He has only said he took four.

But, you know, we have the flight logs.

You have to file the manifest.

So they have the flight manifest as part of record.

They also now have the pilots manifest where there's some real trouble because he said my secret service was always with me.

We now know because of federal documents which flights he took and which ones he didn't have secret service with.

And on those flights, the pilots

in their own logbook kept a log of everybody that was on.

And every time Bill Clinton was on without secret service, there were underage girls on the plane.

Oh, my.

Uh-oh.

Yeah.

Oopsie daisies.

Yeah.

This very well might be payback

for

the Trump lies.

But we'll see because there's also some speculation that these guys are never going to pay for their crimes because they are so well connected.

We'll see.

We'll see.

This is the closest I think the Clintons have ever come to having to face justice for the things that they have done.

This is the closest.

This might be

the one taboo that still remains, that you can't have sex with underage girls.

You can't do that.

I mean, I think as a society and a civilization, we could still agree on that, right?

I hope we can.

I don't know.

If you're Clinton, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

We'll see.

If you're really, really well connected and you have others, Alec Baldwin, involved in these things, how many people are going to be taken down by this?

And

I mean,

this will shoot right into the heart of the Democratic establishment.

Oh, yeah.

And that's going to be real damaging.

We'll see how strong justice is compared to politics.

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