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We're also going to tell you about the Russian submarine that

the news is full of disinformation right now.

Not misinformation, disinformation, because I believe the Soviets do not want the Soviets.

Well, the same thing.

The Russians don't want you to know what they were really doing.

And it all revolves around the statement from Vladimir Putin a couple of summers ago: the world is already in World War III it's going to be fought with ones and zeros and the West just won't recognize it yet also the lies and the ties that are being cut to Jeffrey Epstein amazing what's happening even online digital erasing of facts and Michael Rechtenwald joins us talking about a digital gulag

it's the left and google and companies like that and what they're really building for the future.

Also, Ami Horowitz, an extraordinarily brave man who is Jewish.

He went to Istanbul, he went to Egypt, and also here in the United States to find out exactly what they really believe.

It's a dicey roller coaster of a show today.

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So let me tell you now, last week, Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled an appearance in Russia to attend an emergency meeting with his defense minister.

Now, they said at the same time, Vice President Pence was recalled back to the White House.

And the F-22 Raptors arrived to the Gulf at the same time.

And then the EU Security Council, like the Russians, called an emergency meeting.

Okay, so let me just give you some, let me give you a fact-check just on that.

No, Pence was recalled to the White House for an undisclosed non-national security-related issue.

The F-22s had been ordered to the Middle East a long time ago.

And the surprise EU Security Council meeting?

Well,

some of the blue check marks on Twitter should probably do a little homework because the EU doesn't have a Security Council, so there couldn't be an emergency meeting.

Now, there is something that did happen.

The real thing that was going on

was the emergency meeting with the Russian president.

It was called for Putin and his defense minister.

But without all these events going on, this single event might not have gotten attention

that it ended up receiving.

And that would have been a bad thing, quite honestly.

I can guarantee you that Putin is pissed that all of those things happen and people were tweeting about it.

Because globally, attention was turned on a government-run secret military project.

That's exactly what we stumbled across last week.

And it's important that you understand what happened.

This is what we know so far.

A Russian nuclear submarine caught fire while operating in the Barents Sea.

Now, that's a coast off of northern Russia.

The nearest countries are Finland and Switzerland.

14 Russian sailors died trying to extinguish that fire that was reportedly localized in the battery compartment.

The sailors were credited by the Russians for preventing, quote, a catastrophic, a catastrophe of planetary scale.

Now, how is that possible?

Well, the first thing we all think of is the word nuclear, submarine, fire.

It's another Chernobyl, right?

But if you were listening to yesterday's program, you know that most of what HBO showed was hysteria.

All right.

This is misinformation.

This is disinformation.

A global catastrophe like Chernobyl is not possible.

Now this is going to sound unsettling, but it's actually not.

There are currently nine nuclear submarines sunk at the bottom of the ocean.

There's one right now just off the east coast of Cape Cod.

It's been there since 1963.

In all, there are two US and seven Soviet or Russian nuclear subs sitting at the ocean floor.

So what happens to the reactors?

How come their reactors haven't, you know, had the China syndrome?

Well, it's the ocean waters, and they're providing a source of infinite cooling, so they'll never explode.

So no, the Russian sailors, although very brave and heroic for, you know, perishing to save their ship, did not save the world from a planetary scale disaster.

This, again, is disinformation.

It's misdirection.

Look over here, look over here.

If attention

is being diverted intentionally,

what's the real story?

Attention is being moved through misdirection to get you off of the trail of the Russian submarine.

Now, this submarine is very special.

It's much smaller than the typical submarine.

With its nuclear reactor, it can stay submerged for very long periods of time.

It is considered one of the quietest submarines in the Russian fleet, and it was built to go much deeper than any other underwater submersible with two separate ship holes.

So in other words, imagine almost like a catamaran.

It's got two hulls of two ships, two submarines linked together.

Now, why would the Russians want a small nuclear-power submarine that can skirt the ocean floor for long periods of time?

And why is this project so secret?

Well,

I think

most everybody except this audience is going to be really surprised when the next great war between major powers breaks out.

I have talked to you for a long time time about being prepared, being prepared, say food store, water, gas, secure some sort of power source, get off the grid.

Why?

Because World War III, or the next major war, is going to be unlike anything we've ever fought before.

It is cyber warfare.

Remember, World War I was unlike any war the world had ever fought before.

It was the introduction of tanks.

At the end of World War I, there were almost no horses left anywhere in Europe because everybody grabbed their horse and they went to war.

Well, a horse isn't going to stand up against a tank.

And so most of the horses were slaughtered in Europe.

Also,

the introduction of chemical warfare and gas warfare that had never been seen before.

and it shocked the world.

This time cyber warfare is going to shock the world and it's going to shock the world because everything is going to change.

If you would look at a map of the ocean floor today

it would almost look like a giant circuit board.

Underwater communication cables stretch out from New York all the way to Europe, from the West Coast to Asia,

and literally everywhere in between.

It's how we are so interconnected.

It's how you can Skype with someone in Africa or visit a website in Poland.

And the underwater circuit board, if you will, began a long, long time ago in 1854 with the installation of the first transatlantic telegraph cable.

These communication lines have been laid for decades, and they have been targets for decades.

They've been target for spies ever since.

Think about it with just the telegraph cable.

If you're Germans and you wanted to hear what America and England were talking about in World War I, all you have to do is just tap into the telegraph table, right?

Well, that's what this is.

During the Cold War, a U.S.

submarine, the USS Halibut, successfully located and tapped a Soviet line during Operation Ivy Bells.

That is the foreshadowing of what is coming now.

Our internet, our interconnected world depends on

the flow of ones and zeros,

and they are currently racing at the speed of light under our oceans.

This Russian submarine was built to take advantage of that.

They can locate and attach themselves to these deep cables.

They can siphon off all of the information.

They can insert malware to attack anything from the electrical grid to the water supply stations to the Defense Department.

And when the information has all been stolen and the weapons have all been unleashed, they can sever the cables.

and leave us in the dark.

This is modern-day warfare, deep under the sea, which is as unknown to most people as the dark side of the moon.

This will be a first-strike weapon.

And I don't think we're anywhere close to understanding it as people.

I hope our Pentagon is on it.

I'm sure they are.

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You know, I was having dinner with some people the other night, and we were talking about, you know, the world and politics and what we think are going to, you know, the future holds.

And

everybody asked me, so are Texans awake yet on how much money is being poured into Texas to make that

a blue state?

And I said, no, no, I don't think they are.

I think Texans are just like the rest of America was in 2007 and 8, oblivious.

And they're just like, oh, no, that'll never happen.

Yeah, we can never have those things happen.

I don't think they understand how close Texas really is

to being a blue state.

It's very purple right now.

Do you think so?

Because

I'm not sure about that.

I keep hearing.

Texas is blue.

Texas is turning blue.

It's a battleground state.

If you look back at the Betto and Cruz election,

you know, the left plays the game really well where they just keep repeating the same lie until a pretty decent segment of Americans believe them.

But just because they say it over and over and over and over again doesn't make it true.

I could say monkeys are flying out my butt every day.

That doesn't make it true.

It's just,

but it is true.

That's a bad example.

That is a bad example.

So, wait a minute.

Why do you think

that's true?

Go back to the election with Ted and Betto.

Ted was re-elected essentially by 51-48, so about three points.

And the media said, oh, wow, just a three-point victory in Texas?

Well, Texas is in play.

We keep trying to tell you.

But let's not forget what was going on at the time.

For whatever reason, Betto was the darling darling of

and the rock star of the Democrat Party.

He'd raised over $80 million, an all-time record for a Senate campaign.

The vast majority of that came from out of state.

The day after the election, he had about $1.98 left in his account.

I mean, he spent every penny pretty much.

And he outspent Ted at least two to one, maybe three to one, and lost.

Even though he had all the momentum, he had an adoring media on his side, locally and nationally, every step of the way.

And you add to that the fact that Ted had some serious,

you forget sometimes, he had some serious issues at the time.

Namely, he had just pissed off all of the Trump supporters because of the rough campaign they had against each other, including the fact that Ted refused to endorse Trump at the GOP convention.

Okay, they were really angry about that.

So then, what was it?

A week and a half later, he turned around and did a 180,

which didn't really please the Trump fans because it wasn't at the convention.

And now, suddenly, he just angered his entire base of conservatives.

So, the Democrats hated his guts from the beginning.

And just to tie the other hand behind his back, too, before the election, he alienated everybody who would potentially be on his side in a normal election.

But even with all of that, of that,

even with all of that,

I mean, he had every reason to lose, I think.

He had nearly everybody turned on him, and he still won the election.

So I'm not sure I believe the Texas is turning blue thing.

So I do,

and I do because I've talked to many of the Republican players who, you know, for instance, the governor who is really paying attention to this.

And

the money that is being spent in Texas to turn us blue.

Yeah, I do know.

Yeah, it's not only the money that's happening.

You know, we've had a, what is it, a 48% increase in illegals in Texas over the last couple of years.

I mean, it's

incredible what's happening

to our state.

And as always, the progressives take the cities.

They have Austin.

They have Dallas now.

They have Houston.

And, you know, it's

to grow and grow and grow.

They've had the metropolitan areas for quite a while, though.

You know, it's always been the suburbs.

Yes, I know.

Correct, but you're taking an influx of mass amounts of illegals and mass amounts of Californians are coming in.

We're getting a thousand people a week from California moving into Texas.

And that's not counting.

That's just the population growth.

That's not counting the people who

are being affected by the money.

I just don't think that Texans are aware of the efforts.

And I think people are lulled into this false sense of security of saying Texas will always be.

It'll always be red.

It'll always be red.

I don't think it will be if we don't pay attention to it.

I mean, that part is true because like the Constitution, it doesn't just protect itself.

And Texas doesn't just protect itself.

We have to do the work, both with the Constitution and with Texas.

So you're right, we do have to be aware of the efforts

because they would like nothing.

I mean, if they do win Texas, then it's over, right?

You will never win another national election.

No.

No.

You flip Texas.

That's me.

You flip the country.

And

it is truly the line in the sand.

And it's interesting because Texas is where that phrase came from.

Davey Crockett drawing a line in the sand

at the Alamo.

Texas is the line in the sand for the Republic.

If you lose Texas, you lose the Republic.

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Almost a year ago, I picked up a book called Springtime for Snowflakes and I read it and I thought,

this guy is,

this guy is either a covert op that's making us all think that he is on our side, but he's actually not,

or he's the bravest guy I think I've ever met.

And he turns out,

I mean, this is what he wants me to believe.

He turns out to be

a guy who is really, truly brave and honest.

And his name is Michael Rechtenwald.

And he was a professor at NYU

who

lost his gig at NYU.

It had nothing to do with him taking on the system.

They made that very clear, did they not, Michael?

Yes.

You started tweeting.

That's right.

And what were some of your tweet tweets?

Well, I mean,

I tweeted things like, you know, social justice warriors, there's a bunch of little Stalins running around.

You know, just imagine that.

And then wake up and realize, yes, you're in that world.

You have a bunch of Stalins running around.

They're just Stalin just weirder.

SJW.

So I was trying to get at the idea, like we were dealing with a bunch of, you know,

authoritarians all over the place.

And things like that.

And I talked about some of the craziness going on on campuses, for example.

You know, the establishment of segregated dormitories, you know, where they were, you know, African-American-only dorms, you know, like a reversal of things that were supposedly progressive, you know, or moving forward.

And

the Halloween costume insanity where you couldn't dress up as anything, you know, that might be appropriating of some culture.

Meanwhile, you have the left dressing up as a new person every day right i mean so they're changing their identities on the fly right but nobody can wear a halloween costume for a night and you were a guy you were one of the most popular progress uh professors at nyu which is not exactly a conservative school

you're not a conservative or weren't a conservative really no um and uh

you actually wrote white papers yeah for communists for marxists yeah yeah yeah and you

you wrote that you told me you wrote those things because in theory,

right?

In theory,

communism is great.

Yeah.

But in practice, it never works.

Right.

I was with like a group that called themselves left or libertarian communists and everybody on the other side of the middle thinks that's complete oxymoron, of course.

Right.

But they believe that like the workers of their own accord, without like the vanguardists or as the leaders, like the Bolsheviks taking charge, that if it all has spontaneously erupted from the bottom up then it'll be workers will have like control of everything and it's just wonderful and of course there's no there's no greed there's no evil there's no bad people amongst the workers they're all pure pure they're all saints I mean so what it is is you're born whatever you know rank and class you're born into in the world according to the left that basically sanctifies you in effect so that you know it's just a very weird theology right and you you were part and you were part of it.

You were part of it, absolutely.

When you realized that people were serious and they were starting to go for actual communism.

Yeah.

Well, actually when they were starting to go for people's heads, you know, starting to talk and act and attack people in the way that like the Red Guard did in the Cultural Revolution under Maoism from 66 to 76 and just insanity, where they just routed out everything and they started destroying all the cultural artifacts the historic anything that represented historical memory tradition convention it had to be razed to the ground and i saw the same things happening here like literature being thrown out of the curriculum you know of course we see statues being defaced all kinds of historical memory being erased it's it's it's to me it started to see seem like the same what was mao's purpose for doing that well he was he was very self-motivated first of all he was trying to eliminate eliminate any competition that he was having within the party so if he got all these red guard

and they were all students very very you know gullible and enthusiastic and crazy and he got them like hey guess what you can go in and basically overthrow the classroom how would you like to go in and kick your teacher out or how would you like to put them on trial That's happening.

Yeah.

That's happening now in America.

And so he actually turned

the populace against the state, against the very social order itself,

to dissolve it so that he would have absolute supremacy.

Which,

who is the Mao of our time?

How is this?

How is this?

How is this happening?

It's

yeah, there's a lot of mini-maos.

I call them mini-maos.

Sort of like mini-mouse.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because there's no big figures like this that are able to, I mean, you have, you know, you have

uh the North Korean leader but I mean that that doesn't count we're talking about like in our world there there's a few people I mean there's a lot of people so where's it coming from

it's coming from these these people that are tapping into their moral superiority and their authoritarian impulses and they their their their moral probity they think they're absolutely right and they think they have the truth on their side and they're on the right side of history.

This is the key.

If you're on the right side of history, because they think history is going in a direction, happens to be the direction they want it to go in.

You know, it's called, this is called Whiggish history because that's how the Whigs thought in Great Britain.

They thought that, you know, there was a progress narrative of history.

And of course, the progress was all going the way towards their types of policies.

And this is the same thing these people hold.

They hold this progress narrative.

It's all going their way.

Basically, anything new is good, including any new genders,

anything, but anything not new is cis or X.

Right.

You know, and it's just like in the Soviet Union, they started calling, you know, during the Great Terror, anybody that was designated as an X EX, that is you're an ex-official, X this, X that from another, from the earlier regime, you were going to the gulag.

So I say that cis is kind of like the equivalent of X.

It's a way of marking the antiquated who must go down.

How the obvious question here, Michael, how do these people who say they're fighting against authoritarians,

how do they not see that they are exactly what they despise?

It's amazing.

If I was a cartoonist, I would draw a picture of an antifa

character who's looking in a mirror

and he sees on his forehead a swastika.

Because they are absolutely replicas of what they think they're against.

They are the brown shirts or the black shirts.

Yeah, it's very frightening.

But what's frightening about it is the unself-consciousness of that.

How is the self-delusion so thick that you could actually be the incarnation of what you think you're against?

A lot of people will say that it was people like you work around or may have been on the campuses that are...

that are just filling people's heads with gobbledygooks.

I I can't even tell you.

I mean, it's so sad.

To me, it's so sad what's happened.

I think that, like, for example, what happens to the college curricula, they've turned it into, like,

basically, it's a moral program based on social justice as the main creed.

And they've rid anything that doesn't fit.

You know, like, for example, at SOAS in London, it's a university that they threw out all white male philosophers from the philosophy curriculum.

Okay?

That's all Western philosophers.

That's everybody.

Yeah, that's everybody.

There isn't much, you know, maybe it leaves

Anne Rand, but I mean, I mean, they're not going to teach her.

No, huh.

So there's not much left.

And, you know, whatever reason, still, you know, these are people that contributed a great deal to our society and our culture.

You read Plato today and you can learn a lot.

Oh, yeah, a good one.

And I mean,

however you want to think about it, you know, there is a great connection between

Plato's Platonic thinking and Christianity, for example.

There's a great deal of connection there, whether you think that Christianity borrowed from it or it was a precursor that sort of set the stage, you know, it works either way, but it definitely is deeply foundational to the way we are.

So, how many people, this is the argument I think

people are having in themselves, or unfortunately, it's keeping them blind because they think that

there's not enough people that actually believe in these things.

And so they're going to, you know, this is just going to stop at some point.

And you do see evidence that people are waking up because they're pushing way too far.

Right.

But how many people do you think on the campuses,

if you look at it, you know, through polls, 70, 80% are buying into it?

Yeah.

What I heard was at NYU, the students would tell me that the worst places weren't even the classrooms, the dormitories, where the students were self-patrolling each other in the social justice creed.

And they were correcting each other if they were saying or doing or acting in a wrong way according to the creed.

And so there was a lot of censorship going on within the dormitories and stuff like that.

And a lot of

blackballing students.

And it was sounded like a horror show.

And I was living the worst of it as a professor who was not, not, you don't get out in four years

unless they throw you out.

You're right.

You know, they only have a short term there.

It's not going to last forever.

But, you know, I had to live with that.

And

it's spooky.

So, Michael, I think a lot of people think,

where the hell did that come from?

Where did that word come from?

All of a sudden, you know, the patriarchy is something we're talking about.

And we never talked about that before.

Right.

And the patriarchy has no gender.

Well, then, what is it?

Yeah, they'd like to keep it nebulous, you know, because then they can move it around

and put it on anybody.

But yeah, but the patriarchy was supposedly, you know, of course, domination by the patriarchs, by male, you know, authority figures and so forth.

And the West does not have a patriarchy.

Okay.

This is very clear.

There are some.

The Middle East.

The Middle East has a patriarchy.

Yes, it does.

That is a patriarchy.

And interestingly enough, the Western feminists have no with

the Mid-Eastern patriarchy.

Yes, so they don't critique it and they actually will scold you severely if you talk about the hijab and anything like that.

So it's a very weird thing.

The reason why

they keep it this way, like so the patriarchy has no gender, so they can paste it on anybody.

Particularly what they like to do is people that are supposed to be in a victim class and don't behave properly for that victim class category, they go after those people with more vengeance than they do anyone.

And that's the scariest thing.

Like, you know,

the president of the Heritage Foundation, an African-American woman, Kay Jones, I think it was her last name.

She was elected to be on the advisory board of Google.

Right.

And because she is conservative, the Google, what I call them, the red guard within the Google woke force, as I put it in the book,

they went mad.

I mean, and they called her everything from,

you know, transphobe and all that to a white supremacist.

They went after her with more vehemence than they go after the oppressors.

So this just shows me that they're not interested in serving the subordinated.

And I'm not saying there aren't subordinated people in this world.

What I'm saying is the left uses them.

They're just props.

Oh, yeah.

And

historically speaking,

do we wake up from this before it's too late?

Let's just say this.

The waking up is going to be scary for a lot of people, and I think it's going to have to be like they're going to be woken up by knocks on the door in effect, metaphorically, you know, at night, you know, just like when the, when the, um,

when the cheka starts coming to your door and hauling you off to the gulag, not effectively in the exact same way, but the more people that are going to be ripped down, called down, ripped me to whatever.

Right.

The people that are right now

being,

you know, kicked off of Twitter, kicked off of YouTube, Facebook, everything else, they include people like you.

You know, they include people who are effective and from, you know, formally from their group.

When you wake up and come out and go, wait a minute, wait a minute, this is really dangerous, they stifle you.

And at some point, I mean,

the Niebuller poll is true.

At first, they came for the trade unionist, and I wasn't a trade unionist, so I didn't care.

That's right, exactly.

Until they come for you.

You know, I wasn't even talking about my type.

I'm talking about like African Americans, like, for example, Candace Owens, who doesn't behave properly, according to the victim.

Kanye West.

Yes.

And,

you know, even Clarence Thomas, I mean, it just would not conform.

And so they,

you know, he said, you know, he went through an electronic lynching.

Now it's a digital lynching and digital disappearances, which is really what scares me.

Yeah, the depersonization.

Yes, depersoning or unpersoning.

Yeah, unpersoning.

Because once everybody is, first of all, they've made the public sphere basically irrelevant or limited to the digital sphere.

So there's nowhere to really get to anybody with any message outside of the digital sphere.

Then they have complete control over it, and it's privatized.

So there's no state sanctions of anything.

There's no rights.

And so they're just erasing any opinions that they don't like.

And what's crazy is so many people in Silicon Valley that I've talked to, they all talk about the end of the nation state.

They want it.

They want it.

Because of that, there is no constitution.

There are no laws.

They make the laws and they'll be able to shape society any way they want.

I've never, I'm a capitalist.

I've never been one that jumps on these

anti-capitalist, anti-corporate kind of bandwagons.

But these corporations are truly becoming frightening.

Yeah.

Because, and they're telling us what they're going to do.

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Ami Horowitz is an American documentary filmmaker.

He is writer, producer, and director of Ami on the Streets.

He co-wrote, co-directed, and starred in the 2009 documentary, UN and Me,

an examination, a critical examination of the United Nations.

He's done so much since.

Is that where we first met, when we first met, Ami?

That is the first time that we were the first time I met.

And I thought you were brave back then.

This is one of the craziest things I've ever seen you do.

You went undercover.

You're kind of a known guy now.

You went undercover in the Middle East to talk to members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

You pretended to be an anti-Semitic Jew,

and they were willing to talk to you.

Yeah, you know, it's funny.

The Muslim Brotherhood is an interesting organization.

It depends on who you ask, and different people will tell you different things about them.

Sure.

You ask the left, and it's a benign Muslim organization trying to lift Islam, you know, out of the muck.

And you ask people on the right, it's a terrorist organization that has an insidious goal.

So I wanted to find out what the reality was because the Muslim Brotherhood is the largest Muslim organization on planet Earth, and it spans across continents.

And it's heavily involved in the West.

And I want, so I wanted to get a better sense of what the reality was.

And the best way to do it is not reading articles

or newspaper interviews because it's meaningless.

It's all people kind of coming up with a conjecture.

I wanted to go and meet with them myself, the leadership, the people on the ground.

So I traveled to Egypt and Beirut and Istanbul and Germany and here in Southern California and met with these people to find out what the reality was.

And what did you find?

Not good.

Let me play a clip.

Here's a first clip uh

sets up the video who are the muslim brotherhood and what do they want here it is the muslim brotherhood is an organization that began in the 1920s in egypt as a religious and social organization it has over the years metastasized to become the largest global islamic organization in the world with branches in dozens of countries it has representatives in various governments and leadership in social and charitable organizations around the world its stated goals are to spread islam and the word of the Quran throughout the world, with the ultimate objective being the creation of a global caliphate.

Now, did they use the words global caliphate?

Yes.

Yes.

No, there's no question that they are looking, and anybody who knows a Muslim Brotherhood at all, even ones where anyone who's intellectually honest, I should say, know that that is one of their major goals, is to create a global caliphate because they think that Islam, in their slogan, is Islam is the constitution, jihad is the only way, and death in the way of Muhammad is the ultimate result.

So this is their,

it's in their slogan.

Right.

You would think you'd have a hard time, at least in the West, you know, getting people to join up if that was your slogan for your country club.

Yeah,

not the most attractive slogan ever.

No, not one that you're really interested in.

It's amazing to me, Ami, on how much I was mocked for caliphate, and yet that is so clearly the stated goal of anybody who is an Islamist.

Yes, I think that's true, and it's particularly true with the Muslim Brotherhood.

It's part of what,

it is in their DNA

to do that.

And to affect that goal, what they have done, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all, okay?

But I have to say that when people say they're sending, I don't know what word you want to use, agents, representatives,

use whatever adjective you want.

There's no question they're doing that.

I've met with these quote-unquote representatives, agents, who were placed in the United States and in Europe, and they would tell us, they were telling us, our goal is to undermine, this is on camera, undermine the United States.

And by the way, one of the ways they do that, I find it fascinating, is that they have created alliances with the left.

This one guy I met, Mohamed Sakar, who, by the way, who's living in Southern California,

openly, has called, by the way, for the death of an assassination of our president, and is accused of murdering a policeman in Egypt, which is why he came to, and he ran to the United States.

I don't know why he's still living here in a condo near the beach, you know, in Manhattan Beach, which I love.

But he was very clear in saying, yeah, I work very closely with the left because if they don't agree with our goals,

they certainly, you know, you know how the left works in terms of

its notion of equality and they see Islam as kind of being an oppressed case.

They try to

work with them.

So he not only works with the left, he has called openly for the destruction of the United States, did so on camera with me and said, look, if I'm killed, if I die for this goal,

I will die a happy man, which, I don't know, sounds pretty insidious.

When somebody who Islamic says, I'm willing to die for my goal, you know.

So is this Nadal Sakar?

Yes.

Okay, so we have a cut of the Sears Clip 2.

Listen.

The way Muslim Brotherhood exists and operates is the following.

They do have those general guidelines and approach and school of thought.

However, each chapter deals with its own realities and challenges and very specific circumstances.

Like, for example, in the US, it's different than, for example, UK or France or some other places.

So

you operate from within, like, the environment that you're in in a way that's most fit.

You work from within the system

to rise up.

From within the system.

How successful is that approach right now?

It's very, very successful.

So, now you're not.

This is not a hidden camera.

No, no.

Why are they speaking to you?

It's amazing to me how open they are once the camera.

In general, I find it odd that people become very honest when the camera's rolling.

You think it'd be the opposite, but in my experience, interviewing people who are bad dudes, they tend to get very open because I think what it comes down to is he doesn't think what he's saying is a problem.

You know, and you didn't roll the part where he's talking about the structure of the United States and his willingness to die for that goal.

But you would think that's something you would really want to hide from the public.

But the truth is, he feels that this is a good, this is a positive.

So, he wants to get that word out there.

And very few people can, A, find the guy and be willing to interview him.

Right?

You don't see him on CNN or on these other channels.

But, but I was, he, I found him, so he was able to speak to me.

They're they're shockingly open.

So, when you talk, when he talks about infiltrating the government, for instance,

I don't have the proof, but we have a lot of connective tissue for Elon Omar to care.

And CARE is a sister organization of the Muslim Brotherhood.

CARE is a front organization to help with its,

you know, to help with its image and popularity and to raise funds for Hamas.

That's what it was founded to do.

Elon Omar, it doesn't make sense to me that she's involved with the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE

when

the real face of the Muslim Brotherhood is women don't have a voice, there are no equal rights, there's certainly no gay rights, and she stands for all of these things, and no one seems to ever have a problem

in care, et cetera, et cetera, with what she says.

I mean, first of all,

when you talk about, and we're going to have a whole different tangent, which I'd rather not, I want to stick to your question, but when you talk about

how antithetical you would think

the values of radical Islam are to the left, you still have this alliance to the left, even though you would think that why would the left want to work with groups of people who are against all those issues?

Right, but flip it the other way.

Why would the Muslim Brotherhood want to work with the left if they didn't think in the end they're going to win and we'll just take care of those people later?

That's the answer.

They're useful idiots.

And that's a term you like to use, and it's true.

They're useful idiots for these people.

When it comes to care and these other, like, so what you have, you have a number of these organizations which cut across the United States.

There are Islamic organizations that kind of encompass a lot of the Islamic community in the United States, and CARE being the most significant one of them.

CARE, some people don't know, was an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation, which was

the Muslim Brotherhood was directly sending funds to Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

It is part of the Muslim Brotherhood.

And people of the United States, major Islamic leaders here in the U.S.

were funding Hamas through

this group called the Holy Land Foundation.

And CARE and actually basically all the major Islamic organizations were all unindicted co-conspirators.

Now, if you ask CARE today, are you connected to the Muslim Brotherhood?

They will say no.

We're not connected.

Now, the truth is, it was started by Muslim Brotherhood members.

That's not in dispute.

And they oftentimes will have conferences bringing Muslim Brotherhood leaders to these conferences so they can speak to their ideology.

So the question has to become, what does that mean you're not connected to them?

Ilan Omar, look, I don't think we have to connect Elon Omar to anything to show that she hates America.

She's an open anti-Semite.

I think she makes that connection herself when she opens her mouth.

We don't have to try to draw dots between her and other organizations.

She clearly holds those ideologies.

But is that what he was talking to you about when he said we infiltrate we infiltrate governments?

We go into these countries and we infiltrate the governments.

Is it at that level that they are working with congressmen, senators?

I mean, what level does he mean?

Yeah, no, they absolutely lobby in Congress and they try to support candidates that they support.

Now, that's not to say, again, I don't want to make it seem like the Muslim Brothers is a super powerful organization in the United States.

They don't have that kind of power at all.

Now, they have had a number of successes,

and the Women's March is a perfect example where the Women's March had a lot of connections to the Muslim Brotherhood.

They've had successes, but they are not this Uber organization that really controls all the strings in government.

That's not really what the reality is.

Okay.

Let me play the next clip.

This one is where you ask him if the Muslim Brotherhood is allied with the American left.

Listen.

How closely the Brotherhood is working with the leftists and liberal organizations.

They're my backers and they're my defenders in political circumstances.

So the left really, you have an alliance with the left in the United States?

The left would be natural ally, of course.

They were our backers and supporters, and actually coalition partners.

I mean, now Republican Party actually is basically Hel Hitler kind of party, you know, is even worse than

the Jewish pro-Israeli in some ways.

So the Republicans are Nazis and worse than the pro-Israel lobby.

The Jews.

Pro-Israel lobby.

You have to throw the Jewish word, the Jews in there.

The Jews.

Wow.

Yeah,

this is what it's become.

But again, if you ask the people on the left, do you have a problem with the Muslim Brotherhood?

They'll say no.

First of all, they don't know anything.

They're a bunch of fools.

But they'll say, no, of course not.

Absolutely not.

Listen, Linda Sarsour, we show a clip of her there.

Linda Sarsour, I'm not saying she's a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

I don't know if she is.

Her uncle is a Muslim Brotherhood leader here in the United States, and I've spoken to him.

But she clearly is part of the connective tissue that we're kind of talking about when it comes to radical Islam and the left kind of working together.

She's almost emblematic of that.

She's She's a touchstone.

She's an ideological leader of the left, despite the fact that she's an anti-Semite, anti-Israel, and in my view, anti-American.

So how can she wear the Islamic guard and be a garb and be so

devout

on Islam and not be a pariah in her own community?

What do you mean?

That's one of the reasons why she's lauded is because she's brave enough to wear the hijab.

But she's so brave.

But she's also going against all traditional norms for Islam.

She is for women's.

She's outspoken on women's.

But you mean the way she's looked on by Islam, not by the left?

Yeah, by Islam.

Unless.

I just know enough people that have been targeted by Islam that these people like

Rashid or

Omar,

they're all saying the same things that people

on the

anti-Islam Islamist side would say about their culture.

These people are all for it.

Gay rights, women's rights, et cetera, et cetera.

And they're embraced.

So how do you explain that other than

they're not telling the truth and the Islamists know it?

Well, that would be an explanation, wouldn't it?

It sure would be.

I'll give you a second to

see if you can come up with another explanation.

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