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So it's a feeding frenzy as the left just starts to eat each other.

And I'd like to wallow in that for a minute.

I would just like to marinate in that

because

there is a revolution happening in the Democratic Party.

It's clear.

Now,

are the Democrats going to wake up to it?

You know,

I don't know if anybody else has a problem with reparations hearings,

you know, on Capitol Hill.

I mean, if I were prioritizing the things that would help America and fix America, reparations would not even be on the list.

It would be lower than climate change.

We begin there in one minute.

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You know, it's amazing to me.

Chuck Todd Todd is going after AOC, and you have to give him credit.

I mean, when somebody does something brave, no matter if you agree or disagree with them,

you should come out and say, hey, Chuck Todd don't normally agree with you, but you're being brave, and that is good.

Here's what Chuck Todd said about AOC calling

these holding facilities concentration camps on our border.

Listen.

If you want to criticize the shameful treatment of people at our southern border, border, fine.

You'll have plenty of company, but be careful comparing them to Nazi concentration camps, because they're not at all comparable in the slightest.

But here's where it's upsetting as her comment.

Some Democrats have been reluctant to condemn her remarks.

They don't want to get criticized on Twitter.

Fellow New York Congressman Jerry Nadler tweeted in response: One of the lessons from the Holocaust is never again.

We fail to learn that lesson when we don't call out such inhumanity right in front of us.

Jerry Nadler surely knows migrant detainment camps are not the same as concentration camps.

So why didn't he just say that?

Why are we so sheep as calling out people we agree with politically these days?

Obviously, this isn't a Democratic Party thing.

It's an even bigger problem on the Republican side of the aisle when it comes to President Trump and the reluctance there.

Are we really so ensconced in our political bubbles, liberal versus conservative, that we cannot talk about right versus wrong anymore?

Some things are bigger than partisanship, or at least they used to be.

That is amazing to hear from him.

Now,

I disagree that the problem is even bigger.

I mean, you have people now saying, I want to dismantle the free market system.

You know,

maybe you all agree on that.

Maybe that's what it is.

But I would think that would be something that would be pretty big, you know.

But maybe it's just me.

But congratulations to Chuck Todd.

Now, Nancy Pelosi, not so brave.

Here's Nancy Pelosi.

These members of Congress are, they come and represent their district and their point of view, and they take responsibility for the statements that they make.

I'm not up to date on her most recent one.

I saw something in the news, but I,

no, I haven't spoken to her about that.

I do have some comments to make to my caucus writ large about the political nature of how politically charged the atmosphere is.

So understand

that while the Republicans have no interest in holding the president accountable for his words, they will misrepresent anything that you say just if you have one word in the sentence that they can exploit.

Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh.

Oh.

Okay, so

let's let's let's just see.

Let's just see.

Let's go to Don Lemon, the audio.

Don Lemon on airing Trump speeches.

Now let's just see.

This is politically charged and we'll take everything out of context.

So you got to calm down because you don't want things taken out of context.

Go ahead.

Think about the despicable people we've had in history.

Okay, now I'm going to use an extreme example.

Think about Hitler.

Think about any of those people.

Would you say that that person is allowed, or let's put it this way, if you could look back in history, would you say, well, I'm so glad that that person was allowed a platform so that they could spread their hate and propaganda and lies?

Or would you say it probably wasn't the right thing to do to spread that?

Because you knew in the moment that that was a bad person and they were doing bad things.

Not only were they hurting people, they were killing people.

And so I just think that moment...

Well, I think that the example matters.

And that's a very extreme example.

Rhetoric that you don't like.

Rhetoric.

Would it be a slippery slope towards violence

detrimental to people?

And it also, it also...

So now he's comparing Donald Trump to Hitler.

Literally, Hitler.

Would we give Hitler a platform?

Why are we giving this guy a platform?

First of all, the German people were not all that sold that this was a bad guy.

Okay.

And yes, I'm actually happy that

the New York Times and Time magazine and others gave him a platform so we knew his words.

The problem I have was the journalist we sent over, just like the journalist from the New York Times that was sent over to Stalin, said that he was a wonderful guy.

So, yeah, you probably shouldn't have given him the New York Times and Time magazine, you know, saying how great he is.

That's probably a bad mistake.

But

letting someone be heard?

Yeah, I think that's what our First Amendment is all about.

And I think the only way we stop people like Hitler is by knowing what he's saying.

If we wouldn't have read Mein Kampf, it would have been a little harder to spot him.

Oh, no, wait a minute, wait a minute.

What is he saying again?

Should we have published that book?

Yes.

I want to know what people are thinking.

I want to know the other side.

I want...

It does no good burying our heads in the sand when it comes to evil.

You need to know about it.

So now he's called him uh now he's called him uh

a a Hitler now he's called Trump Hitler okay we got it

we are getting closer to the time remember I said this is 15 years ago we're a long way away from a civil war you'll know when we're closer to a civil war when they just start beating each other in the Senate Okay, that's what happened before the last Civil War.

They just started going after each other in the Senate.

well we're starting to go there i don't know if we have do we have the audio from the view yesterday

from megan mccain

okay

play this this is a an argument between joy behar megan mccain and whoopie goldberg listen to this i'm trying to explain because one of my producers this morning was saying why do people love him so much and i was like sometimes it's not just that they love trump so much it's that they hate the same things trump hates that's what's going on

you mean and no No, I mean who do they hate?

Who do they hate?

You know what, Joy?

I really

come here every day open-minded just trying to explain it.

And it's not a fun job for you.

Who do you get?

I know you're angry.

I get it that you're angry that Trump's president, like a lot of people are.

I get it.

But every single time you're talking about it, I don't think yelling at me is going to fix the problem.

Okay?

I just said that it was hard for me

to watch, yes.

I just said it was hard for me to watch Lindsey Graham, who I considered an uncle for a long time.

But then you're talking about the Trump attacks.

It don't help you.

2020 is not in the bag for you.

But it is.

It's not the question.

Okay, guys.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Woo!

It's a great discussion, and we can go back to it.

I just need everybody to take a beat.

But being a sacrificial Republican every day,

I'm just trying to...

Don't feel bad for me because I'm paid to do this.

Okay?

Don't feel bad for me.

Before he headed to Florida.

Hold on.

Stop.

Stop.

You hear that?

Don't feel bad for me, bitch.

To whoopy Goldberg trying to calm things down.

And I completely side with Megan McCain.

Megan McCain takes a beating every single day.

You don't win in that position.

You are the token conservative, and they beat you every single day.

But when they can't hide it anymore?

Now, this is also yesterday.

Can we play, did we get the audio by any chance yet of

the subcommittee hearing?

on the Constitution and civil rights and civil liberties.

Yesterday,

they had H.R.

40 that they were debating and it was the path to restorative justice which is a reparations bill now i can think of a lot of things that would be helpful to fix the country reparations is not on the list

but i want to play some of the audio of of what happened in this

we the temperature is being turned up

And

yeah, Chuck Todd is right.

And yes, Nancy Pelosi is right.

We should watch our words.

We should watch our words.

We should watch what we're doing to stir things up.

I'm giving you a warning here as a nation.

Look

how far we have advanced.

These things would not have happened a year ago.

They certainly wouldn't have happened four years ago.

Look what's happening to us.

Look where we are as a people.

I'll give you that audio.

Pretty remarkable audio because they turn on their own again.

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I want to play just a little bit of this audio

of

somebody standing up who is testifying, who is a Democrat,

who says, reparations, this is crazy.

What are we doing?

Now listen to his case.

This is

Coleman Hughes.

He is a writer for Quillette, which is fantastic.

He came out and said this.

Listen.

Nothing I'm about to say is meant to minimize the horror and brutality of slavery and Jim Crow.

Racism is a bloody stain on this country's history, and I consider our failure to pay reparations directly to freed slaves after the Civil War to be one of the greatest injustices ever perpetrated by the U.S.

government.

But I worry that our desire to fix the past compromises our ability to fix the present.

Think about what we're doing today.

We're spending our time debating a bill that mentions slavery 25 times, but incarceration only once, in an era with no black slaves, but nearly a million black prisoners.

A bill that doesn't mention homicide once at a time when the Center for Disease Control reports homicide as the number one cause of death for young black men.

I'm not saying that acknowledging history doesn't matter.

It does.

I'm saying there's a difference between acknowledging history and allowing history to distract us from the problems we face today.

In 2008, the House of Representatives formally apologized for slavery in Jim Crow.

In 2009, the Senate did the same.

Black people don't need another apology.

We need safer neighborhoods and better schools.

We need a less punitive criminal justice system.

We need affordable health care.

And none of these things can be achieved through reparations for slavery.

Nearly everyone close to me

Nearly everyone close to me told me not to testify today.

They told me that even though I've only ever voted for Democrats, I'd be perceived as a Republican and therefore hated by half the country.

Others told me that by distancing myself from Republicans, I would end up angering the other half of the country.

And the sad truth is that they were both right.

That's how suspicious we've become of one another.

That's how divided we are as a nation.

If we were to pay reparations today,

we would only divide the country further.

making it harder to build the political coalitions required to solve the problems facing black people today.

We would insult many black Americans by putting a price on the suffering of their ancestors.

And we would turn the relationship between black Americans and white Americans from a coalition into a transaction, from a union between citizens into a lawsuit between plaintiffs and defendants.

What we should do is pay reparations to black Americans who actually grew up under Jim Crow and were directly harmed by second class citizenship, people like my grandparents.

But paying reparations to all descendants of slaves is a mistake.

Take me, for example.

I was born three decades after the end of Jim Crow into a privileged household in the suburbs.

I attend an Ivy League school.

Yet I'm also descended from slaves who worked on Thomas Jefferson's Monticello plantation.

So reparations for slavery would allocate federal resources to me, but not to an American with the wrong ancestry, even if that person is living paycheck to paycheck and working multiple jobs to support a family.

You might call that justice.

I call it justice for the dead at the price of justice for the living.

I understand that reparations are about what people are owed, regardless of how well they're doing.

I understand that.

But the people who are owed for slavery are no longer here, and we are not entitled to collect on their debts.

Reparations, by definition, are only given to victims.

So, the moment you give me reparations, you've made me into a victim without my consent.

Not just that, you've made one-third of black Americans who poll against reparations into victims without their consent.

And Black Americans

is so solid.

Don't agree with him necessarily on everything he says, but so rock solid.

So rock solid.

Since when does the sin of the father get passed to

the son?

It's immoral.

It's wrong.

And he's right.

It will divide us even more.

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This is just another reason why social justice warriors are so out of step with the way Americans think.

They just don't think

like

what's in our DNA.

What's in our DNA is not reparations.

What's in our DNA is doing the right thing.

But never, never do we pass the sins of the father on to the son.

If my father racks up debt, I don't have to pay for it.

I didn't rack up that debt unless I signed, then it's passed on to me.

But what my father did is what my father did.

And here is yet another example.

Moms and dads,

is this the kind of country you want your children to inherit?

One to where you make a mistake and they have to pay for it?

Not me.

It's ridiculous.

I mean, so I had nothing to do with it.

I'm having an announcement.

I had nothing to do with slavery.

0%.

I had nothing to do with Jim Crow laws either.

No, no, it didn't have anything to do with it.

So, I mean,

I understand why if you are a descendant, you could look back at your history and say that was a huge problem.

And we all obviously recognize it was a terrible, terrible thing, as you'll be pointing out in the museum

in just a couple of weeks.

But that does not mean that I get punished for it.

I don't get punished for things that I didn't do.

That's what America is built on that, right?

You're supposed to be able to

be responsible for your own actions, not actions for people that, by the way, not only

was I not around for, but never, never met, were long dead before I was even born.

And I didn't have any, like, my descendants weren't slave owners.

Like, only, what was it, about a third of southerners, white southerners, were slave owners.

I mean, you know, it was an expensive thing, I would imagine, and, you know, mainly relegated to those who were well off and also believed in slavery.

But about a third, so you're talking about two-thirds of white Southerners would be being

have their descendants taxed for something they didn't even do.

Not to mention, it was a divisive issue, right?

There were a lot of people who were white and in the South who thought slavery was horrible, just like every issue today is divided.

We had people who were the founders who fought against it.

I mean, did the descendants of Benjamin Franklin, an abolitionist, do they pay reparations to someone who may or may not have been a descendant of slaves?

There's no way to manage this system.

Let me ask you this: what would be the purpose?

And they say it's justice, but it's not.

No.

Social justice is not justice.

It doesn't exist.

So they say this is social justice, but really, let's look at the motivation.

Let's say, right now,

we reversed Roe versus Wade

and

100 years from now

you would say well I want I want

everybody to pay for reparations because my great-great-grandmother was advised by Planned Parenthood that she could get an abortion and so I want you to pay for those reparations for all of those 50 or 60 million children that have been killed since Roe versus Wade.

Now, what would be your intent there?

Really?

What would your intent be?

I would imagine that if you were doing it closer to

the actual event, that you could make the case, well, that was to financially cripple this organization to make sure that they were put out of business.

I contend that's the same idea here.

It's to...

It's to add to an already $22 trillion debt to do something that makes absolutely no sense.

There is no justice in this.

And wait, we're going to what?

We're going to pay money that we don't have.

We will have to borrow it to do what?

I contend this is to do nothing other than to cripple our government, to cripple the United States of America.

And I think that's what this is about.

And when you really look at how they would do it, there's no constitutional way to tax only white people.

Like, I mean, and that's good.

There shouldn't be a constitutional way to tax only one specific race.

That's not something you can even do.

It's like it's this idea that, you know, of course, there's no way to actually correctly trace the lineage of every single person to make this right.

So they won't, they, they'll broaden it.

And what they want to do is say, okay, we're going to tax white people and give it to black people is where it kind of gets summarized to.

But even that, that's blatantly unconstitutional, just like it would be unconstitutional to tax black people to give it to white people.

Because you know what?

There have plenty of times where people who are incredible racists would have argued that that was just.

So

go beyond that.

How would this actually play out?

Let's just put it in, not in this idea of whether it's right or wrong.

Put it in the idea of actually designing a policy.

There's no constitutional way to do it the way it's being discussed.

What it would wind up being is an excuse to take money from people who were supposedly too rich and benefited too much off of this evil and give it to people who are poor, who have been hurt by this system.

So, what you'd wind up doing is having middle-class and upper-middle-class black people paying higher taxes to give it to people who probably underprivileged, quote-unquote, white people who wound up getting the becoming the beneficiary.

It would wind up being just a generic argument to redistribute wealth all over again.

And what a surprise that one of these topics and one of these big pushes by the left comes back to that fundamental principle once again.

It's healthcare.

Remember, we said the reason why health care is being pushed is because it's just redistribution of wealth.

That's all it is.

It's not going to affect in a positive way, it's not going to affect your actual health care.

In fact, it's going to make it worse, which it has.

It is only redistribution of wealth.

And we didn't just make that up.

If you remember, who was it from the Center for American Progress, I think, said that you cannot have a healthcare program?

Remember, he was the

head of

Medicare or Medicaid, wasn't he?

Yeah.

Wasn't it him?

Yeah.

And he said

there is no health care unless it is involving redistribution of wealth.

It must be redistributive.

Yeah, right.

And here's the thing:

this is more importantly,

this is why it's dangerous.

For us as humans, beyond the Republic and everything else, for us as humans,

we look at history and we say it's boring, it's old, it's powdered wigs.

No, it's not.

History is what you did or failed to do yesterday.

That's history.

Now you can allow that history to affect the rest of your life.

I'm an alcoholic.

I'd get up every morning and I'd promise myself I wouldn't drink the day before.

You know, and I'd look and I'd go, I just promised this yesterday and I broke my own promise.

I am drinking.

Okay, today,

today, I'm just not going to drink today.

And I broke that promise to myself for five years, every single day.

I let my history control me.

Instead of

forgetting what happened yesterday and saying that does not control me or chart my course, what it did was it told me every day, you're a loser, you're pathetic, you can't do it.

And I dwelled on that

and I just went over a cliff.

And this is why when you hit rock bottom, sometimes it's suicide.

Because you've convinced yourself you're worthless, you're not able to do it, that the whole world is against you, whatever it is, and you lose the idea that today

is all that matters and I can change.

The whole idea of a 12-step program is to change today.

Just get through this first five minutes.

Don't worry about tomorrow or yesterday.

Just get through these next five minutes.

Just get through,

you know, the next hour, then the next day.

Don't think about the future.

And what's happening to us, and this is the point of the museum that we're opening up next week, and it's going to be very controversial, especially in this atmosphere, but it shouldn't be.

What we're doing is we're showing you the history of the slave trade, not just America.

We're showing you that 45% of all the slaves that were transported went to Brazil.

Only 4% of those slaves came here.

We're showing you that, yes, Mexico stopped slavery before we did.

Yeah, but did they really?

Because all they really did was say, okay, you can keep your slaves and you have to give them up in 100 years.

And no slave trade.

Well, we were the first to say

no more slave trade.

We were the first in the world to say no more slave trade.

We just didn't free the slaves we had.

Well, Mexico didn't either.

Mexico didn't do it for 100 years.

And I don't hear anybody complaining there.

Why is it that they're coming after us?

Now we could dwell on that.

But again, what does that do?

That just beats us again, over and over every single day.

When instead, perhaps we should look at today.

There is a report out today

that China has imprisoned in actual concentration camps

3 million people.

people.

3 million people are in these concentration camps.

And just to help Casio-Cortez out, here's the difference between a detainment center and a concentration camp.

In this case, you leave alive,

you leave with your kidneys.

There's a new study out, the China Tribunal, that has shown now that forced organ harvesting is being committed in China on a significant scale.

There is no evidence that any of this has been dismantled.

It's been going on for a while.

And one of the reasons why they know it was going on was because, well, there's not a waiting list.

Oh, you need a new kidney?

Oh, yeah, we can get one.

We got one.

Wait a minute.

How come there's no waiting list in China for organs?

And what they're doing is they're taking these people in these concentration camps.

They're giving them thorough inspections and medical testing.

And then when somebody needs an organ, they're like, oh, we have this guy.

He's this blood type.

Good.

Take him out of cell number 23 and rip his organs out.

That's what's happening in China.

Now,

we can talk about the concentration camp on our border, and it will do nothing but tear us apart.

Or we can look at this and say, hey, maybe we should look at China.

What can we do as people, as a country?

What should we be focused on today?

Because I want to really make this clear.

History is not old, dusty documents.

You're making history right now.

Future historians will judge all of us.

They will say, what did those people do then?

We look at why didn't the United States do anything about the concentration camps in Germany?

How come the world didn't stand up?

Well, what are we doing now?

Three million people are in concentration camps in China alone.

And we're talking about our border?

That doesn't make sense.

Unless,

unless you are somebody that history will not judge well,

and

your concept of right and wrong and justice

is upside down.

So, Stu,

I've got to talk about something that's

not racist, but I know that's what racists say right before they say something racist.

But this isn't racist.

But I'm kind of caught in this conundrum, and it's a good thing I don't work

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He's such a good storyteller and teaches, teaches history in a way I think it needs to be taught.

He is, in my opinion, I don't know if anybody knows who Daniel Borston is, but he was one of my favorite historians.

He was the guy who was the head of the Library of Congress, and I loved his Discoverer series.

And Arthur is the same kind of guy

with just

a gift for bringing history to life.

Welcome to the program, Arthur.

How are you?

I'm doing well.

You know, I met Daniel Dorston

when I was a young scholar, right after my first book, The Idea of Decline

in Western History was published.

He invited me to lunch at the Cosmos Club, as a matter of fact.

And we met and

talked about various kinds of matters, writing history.

In fact, the book the how the scots invented the modern world was really kind of inspired by that conversation because we were talking about really so you should really do a book on adam smith and it planted a seed which you know two years later three years later really became the the seeds of that too yeah he was an amazing man

You know, it's funny, Arthur, that you would say that that was the book that was born out of inspiration because

I felt this way about you with Daniel Borston for a while,

but I happen to be reading How the Scots Changed the World right now.

I'm going through your library, you know, your back catalog, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

And it's very, in some ways, it's very Daniel Borston.

It is.

And, you know, Borston in that lunch explained to me how he wrote those books.

Those books have,

you know, the discoverers and the others in that series really sprang from his reading of the philosopher Henri Bergson, the French intuitive philosopher.

And those all come out of the way in which Bergson talks about how we experience the world through our senses, through our intuitions, and through our connections with nature.

So there's a,

I don't have to go, I'm not going to walk your readers through the philosophy of Henri Bergson.

You can read about that in Cave and Light.

But there was, in other words, that wasn't just sort of book titles, like, what am I going to write about next?

That's the kind of intellectual that Borston was.

Yeah, he was great.

He was great.

So I wanted to get you on.

and I wanted to talk.

We're talking about reparations now in Congress, seriously having this debate.

They were tearing each other apart yesterday.

People were booing, you know, blacks who were testifying and saying, no,

I think this is wrong, and I'm a Democrat.

And they were being booed.

I haven't seen this level

of vitriol.

And it gets worse every day.

You know, last night we had somebody on CNN, a host, compare Donald Trump to Hitler.

Why are we giving this man any platform?

Now, this is not a guest, this is a host.

We wouldn't do that to Hitler.

Why are we doing it to him?

You have

Casio-Cortez comparing what we have happening on our border to a Nazi concentration camp, and people like Chuck Todd are being hammered because he said,

This is ridiculous.

And

have we, can you give me a framework of where where you think we are in history?

Have we been here before?

Yeah, well, I think that, you know,

this is a very strange kind of development that, you know, you and I have talked about kind of where the country is right now.

I think that

it would be good to mention that about four years ago, I wrote a piece that appeared on Fox Opinion called America's Coming Civil War.

And it was about what I felt was, and I'm going to use a term that you'll recognize, Glenn, because it comes out of that period just before 1860, that there was an irrepressible conflict that was coming

between those for whom the growth of government and of government control

versus those for whom government control required extracting

resources, including money,

but also

our own cultural identities, as a conflict that could be as serious as the one that broke out over slavery.

And you were just talking very correctly about how what we saw there was that

the impossibility of finding any kind of clear middle ground between those two sides.

That piece went viral.

There was a lot of criticism of what are you talking about, you know, American Civil War.

I wrote a follow-up piece after Barack Obama's inauguration because I sensed that the Obama administration was

and his re-election in

2012 was really a turning point

in this discussion and what was going to take place here.

So with all of this, now everybody's talking about America's coming Civil War.

Everybody is

debating

these kinds of questions about are we really reaching an existential moment in terms of American identity.

And I think what you see on the media and particularly on the social media suggests that I was that that the Civil War may not come in terms of actual violence you know we're not going to be fight re-fighting the Battle of Gettysburg but I think we're moving very quickly into a space where

we're good it's going to be harder and harder to find sensible compromise even on fundamental kinds of issues which in the past would have been considered you know beyond politics

well because we're not talking about but but we're not really talking about those issues we're We're talking about reparations.

How does reparations

on all of the problems that we face, the politicians always pick the ones that are absolutely the most divisive and with an exception of, I think, abortion, the least consequential at this point.

No, exactly.

And reparations is a classic example because you know it's never going to become reality.

You know that this is simply done by the Democrats as a way to try and increase the African-American vote, which they sense disaster looming ahead in the 2020 election.

And so the scramble is on.

You actually really believe that, that they're headed for a disaster?

I do.

Yeah, yeah, I do.

And

I think that the disaster is reflected both in the pathetic field of candidates that have come forward here, but also the kinds of issues that

they're reduced to

addressing and putting out there in the hopes that they'll be able to collect votes.

You know, of course, what'll happen is when Trump is re-elected, there'll be all kinds of claims that the election was stolen.

Yet again, this is also part of the Democrat playing book now: is that any election that doesn't return a Democrat, and particularly a liberal Democrat, is illegitimate, has been been manipulated either by voter suppression or by collusion with foreign governments or some other kind of underhanded means.

This, too, works to undermine people's confidence in our institutions on both sides of the aisle, Glenn.

I mean, this is the other point, too, is that the increase,

the hyper-exaggerated rhetoric that we're getting out of the left also convinces those on the right that there is no grounds for compromise.

People are out of control.

And that if they were somehow to gain power, that we would be staring a proto-totalitarian state in the face.

The equivalent of Mao's culture revolution is on the way.

And whether that's true or not, the degree to which the excessive rhetoric on the part of the left requires

an equally

exaggerated response from many of the voices on the right is all pointing us towards the idea that this is we're in in we're in dangerous dangerous territory

arthur i want to i want to ask you um a couple more questions uh as a as a historian um to be able to and i know this is almost impossible to take yourself out of today

and try to put yourself in the future and look at what's what's happening uh to us right now and and uh

what the what the you know there's always these these turning points there's always these these roadmarks where you know you it's the easiest place to find is in the Bible because they've summarized civilizations into you know a chapter and so you'll see this this rise and fall of a civilization and then the next rise and you're like okay well they're gonna get it right this time and then they

you know they they fall again and you're like didn't you all you had to do is read the last chapter um and i i want to i want to talk to you a little bit about some of the things that you see

that are road markers,

if you do.

And I also want to talk to you a little bit about socialism and this growing state of technology and the silencing of voices.

Have we been here before?

And what does it mean?

And what should we preserve?

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The overwhelming ratio of adults,

12 to 1, say they prefer a nation with individual ownership of private property and where all the property is owned, and where none of the property is owned by the government.

That is 82 to 7.

6 to 1 ratio, Americans want a government that takes its direction from the people rather than live in a nation where the population takes its direction from the government.

That's a margin of 76 to 12.

Economically, six Americans who want a country featuring the prices of goods based on the free market for everyone who prefers the price of goods determined by the government, that's 75 to 12.

And yet, overwhelmingly, people say they support socialism.

This is a problem with history.

Nobody is educated.

Nobody really understands history.

Nobody even knows what socialism is or capitalism.

The study found out that most people don't even know what capitalism is.

So, Arthur, have we been this close to

this

where people are coming out and saying who are in power?

I want to destroy the free market system.

And if they win, I think they will.

Have we been here before?

Well, I don't know if we've been in this country here before.

But if you look at the experience in Europe between the world wars, and I'm not really so much thinking about Nazi Germany because that's such a cliché and the differences are really profound.

I think a better model for thinking about where we are and where we could go if we're not really careful and began to

take some serious steps

backwards to rethink the way in which political debates have shaped up is France.

You know, France, like the United States, you know, emerged from World War I as a victorious power.

It seemed

to the rest of the world that it was Europe's, you know, superpower on the continent of Europe, just as Britain was,

still a major superpower in a global sense.

And yet,

with the 1920s and 1930s, the French squandered everything that they had achieved in fighting that war.

And they became so politically divided

between Marxism and the extreme right and a political establishment which was

too corrupt and unable to address the most significant issues confronting France and Europe during those years that when in 1940 the German invasion came,

both the left and the right were so determined to see the other side lose so they could say, I told you so, I said that you guys were leading us to a disaster, that they refused to unite.

And so France collapsed.

Wow.

And their entire system of government.

Does this sound familiar at all, Glenn?

Am I talking about a situation which bears amazing resemblance to where we are today in many respects?

You could see that happening with China.

You could see that really happening with Russia.

I mean, you know, we could have

just the border.

You could lose lose the country and there would be a lot of people that would

want to be right so bad that it would allow it to happen.

Sure.

And you know, and the French Chamber of Deputies, at a time in which the Nazi war machine is gearing up, when the Spanish Civil War is threatening to embroil the world in an ideological conflict,

the big debate in this Chamber of Deputies was how many days of vacation should French workers get?

I mean,

talk about about the irrelevancy of an issue like reparations.

And fortunately, you know, there was a man, his name is Charles de Gaulle.

And he came, he was able to be the man of the hour who alone, when everybody else in France had basically given up with

the armistice, basically handing France's fortunes over to over to Hitler.

He was the one that said, no, France is going to continue to fight.

Even if I have to do it entirely alone,

I will do so.

And what he managed to do was to save what was left of France's honor in World War II and to really take upon himself the mission of saving his country from the disgrace and the humiliation and the collapse that had gone through in the last two decades.

We always talk about Winston Churchill, and you know, I've written about Churchill.

I'm a great admirer of his.

De Gaulle, I think, is a figure who we might want to think about looking at more closely.

I wrote my first college paper on him in 1971, and I've always been fascinated by de Gaulle.

He got a bad press because, you know, he pulled France out of NATO and chased out American bases in France during the 1960s, during the Cold War.

But he was a man who looked at his country, saw the state of intellectual and moral rot that had set in, and said, you know what, there's more to France than this, and there's more to my country, and I have a patriotism to which I will sacrifice my career and to which I will sacrifice all of my resources, even if I have to do it alone.

And it became a symbol of strength that

really made him a revered figure,

a savior, and really pulled France out of the abyss that it was in

thanks to the Vichy episode.

Arthur, I know I've only asked you for a half hour of your time this morning.

Would you be willing to give me another 15 minutes?

Because I still have more things I want to talk to you about.

Can you hold over?

Glenn, I'm here.

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If there were two things,

if there were two things that I could fix tomorrow that I think would would

help the country survive, there's a lot of choices.

There's a lot of choices, but two of the easiest

really

is the border and the debt.

Now, we got a lot of other problems.

Abortion is actually number one on my list, but I mean if if we're going to be serious about saving our nation, we have to get the debt under control.

We have to get borders under control.

Nobody is talking talking about that.

In fact, yesterday they had a hearing that went pretty awry in the house on reparations.

Now,

we're a society that doesn't believe in the sins of the father being paid for by the son.

But that's not even this.

This is the sins of the possible great-great-great-grandfather being paid for by the great-great-grandson

whose great-great-grandfather may not have even been here at the time.

Is there any example in history of this being done before?

We welcome back to the program Arthur Herman, one of my favorite

authors and the author of Freedom's Forge, which is a must-read, must-read for everybody.

Arthur,

I think one of the biggest mistakes we made as a country was not doing the 40 acres and a mule.

You know, we had the land back then.

We could have done it.

We still have the land.

But we could have done it.

It probably was the right thing to do, perhaps.

And we just broke so many promises.

However,

that was 150 years ago,

170 years ago now.

This idea of reparations and the great-great-grandson paying for the crimes of a possible great-great-grandfather, has that ever been done before?

Well,

yeah,

it has.

It's how the Marxist mind, and I might also add the National Socialist mind, works.

And that is, is that the world in which you live is based upon an injustice

foisted upon you by

great impersonal historical forces which require the overthrow of the entire system.

Whether you're talking talking about the overthrow of capitalism or, in the case of the Nazis, the overthrow of the world Jewish conspiracy.

So that's the kind of mindset that we're fighting against, Glenn, is one that sees human beings not as free individuals, not as beings gifted with a soul,

with an independent will to make our future and to make our identity as we see fit or as we desire, but instead as pawns of these vast historical forces, white supremacy, patriarchy,

homophobia, Islamophobia, you name it.

And that in those circumstances, it becomes then

irrelevant whether, in fact, for example, African Americans living in this country have a longer lifespan than Africans living

in their own continent.

That that the stories of people like Oprah Winfrey, stories of people like Clarence Thomas, are meaningless because things are posed in terms of these huge, ultimately meaningless abstractions.

You know, the issue you just put your finger on, reparations, and the issue you just mentioned, immigration, are in fact intimately connected because they are both based upon an historical lie, which is that America is ultimately an evil place built by white supremacists,

built by

Christian

fundamentalists,

believers in the enslavement of the rest of the world, patriarchalists, all those kinds of clichés.

And therefore, why would you defend a country, right?

Why would you want to protect the borders of a country which was born in sin?

Why would you want to

not repay those that have suffered as a result of

that original sin in the sense of those who may or may not be descendants of slaves?

And by the way, that is going to be a really hard issue to sort out.

You understand that, right?

That's going to be an insuperable question.

And then, you know, I look at my own experience, right?

You mentioned your great-great-grandfathers.

Well, my great-great-grandfather fought in the Union Army.

He was wounded at the Battle of Stones River, fighting against slavery, fighting against the Confederacy.

So, where do I fit in terms of who's going to be responsible for reparations and who ultimately needs to be called into account for

what happened and what was part of,

an indissoluble part of the 13 colonies that became an independent nation?

And that was an issue that every great statesman up until 1860 wrestled with and tried to find a solution to and that haunted American politics for all those years since and that ultimately required the shedding of blood of more than 600,000 Americans before it was finally sorted out.

Look, you and I know we bungled the Reconstruction period immediately after the Civil War.

There were

the answers were there, and you just mentioned one of them, the 40 acres and the mule.

The ways in which to go forward, those options were there.

If we really were an irredeemably evil society, those options, we wouldn't have chosen, you know, the past that we did.

It would have been inevitable.

It would have been locked in.

But we didn't.

Mistakes

were made by

in those two decades that followed the Civil War, but the reasons why those mistakes were made, and

there's no way you can look at the historical record since and not see the history of the United States as one that has promoted all of the most important human values and the most important foundations of human freedom any society, any society in the world.

And that includes the civil rights movement, which, as you know, goes back much further than Martin Luther King.

That King was the culmination

of work,

of

a tidal move and consciousness in this country that had been set in motion

before he arrived on the scene and that

he was able to

bring to fruition.

The story of America, of race in America, is one that could be written in a very different way from the way in which the organizers of this reparations campaign have written it, and it would be much truer to the historical reality than their distortions and caricatures.

All right, Arthur, I've only got a couple more minutes with you, and I got to ask you this.

I'm concerned, very concerned, and so is everyone in my industry about the silencing of voices and how fast we can be deplatformed and entirely erased.

And that leads me to look at things, you know, like

Huckleberry Finn and Mark Twain being removed from shelves of libraries and not taught anymore.

If we would enter this dystopian world that China is already in, or if we were hit by an EMP,

God forbid, we had some sort of war with Russia and we're trying to knock each other out electronically,

all this knowledge could be lost.

What if you had to save things and beyond the Bible and the founding documents,

what books would you say every library should have, every person should read,

every school kid should read?

We got to have these books if we're going to tell the true story of America and if we would ever want to reset it and put it right?

Wow, that is a really great question.

And we're going to have to have another hour, Glenn, in order to start through all that.

You know that.

You know that.

But I'll tell you what.

I was thinking about this,

and

it's an exercise that I've conducted myself several times.

But since we only have a few minutes here, what if we just limited ourselves to basically five books written by American presidents?

as a way in which to do this, which I think in many ways encapsulates so much of the American experience that they really ought to be part of.

And understanding where we are and how we've gotten to where we are, that I think that everybody should really read and should be in every library.

The first one, the first one that came to my mind was the speeches and addresses of Abraham Lincoln.

Enough said, right?

You and I share

admiration and fascination for those.

But for more than just the ones associated with Civil War, for a man who had a really deep understanding of American history, a deep understanding of Western history,

including our Judeo-Christian roots, it's an amazing, amazing piece of, amazing piece of work.

Then the other one that I would do is, and this is going to shock you, and this is going to surprise you, Glenn, is the speeches of Franklin Roosevelt.

You know, everybody discovered with astonishment, right,

his prayer before D-Day

just this last anniversary.

But in fact, all of his speeches, whatever you say about, you know, Franklin Roosevelt, he made some huge mistakes

in policy during the New Deal.

He certainly had false assumptions about how the world worked and his ability to create a post-war world in conjunction with the Soviet Union.

But you know what?

For as American presidents go,

his speeches reflect an understanding of who we are, of what our aspirations need to be in ways that made them household, you know, everybody understood them, everybody grasped them.

So I would definitely put that on the list.

I would also read then Dwight Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe, which is really understanding how that man was able to put together and hold together a multinational

effort

to free Nazi Germany and why we did it.

It's an amazing book.

I would also include Ronald Reagan's Diaries, because those show a mind at work in the White House understanding how it is that we are going to be able to deal with and ultimately emerge victorious against Soviet communism, communism, which everybody else assumed

we'd be lucky if we could find a way to engage in peaceful coexistence.

It exposes a side of Ronald Reagan that not only enhances our understanding of his importance as an American president, but also we see the way in which America

in the Cold War era, this mind coming to grasp with what's taking place.

place and understanding where it fits in terms of where America needs to be.

Then the last one I'll recommend, Glenn, John F.

Kennedy's Profiles and Courage.

I think it's a wonderful book.

And you know, there's a lot of scandal about who really wrote that book

and so on and about his father's

lobbying so it would get the people at surprise.

But the biographies, first of all, the biographies of the men in the U.S.

Senate who grappled with the issue of slavery.

It's very well laid out in that book.

He has a wonderful chapter on Robert Taft, the Republican senator from Ohio that we've talked about before, which is, considering it is written for a person from the opposite political party, is amazing.

Here's a discussion there about

George Norris, who took a strong stand against the Wilsonian kind of view of the world and of America's involvement in World War I.

It's a lot of it's a very readable.

I read it first as a school kid, but it's one which I think its value grows

as the decades pass as a way to understand who we are and all of the really amazing things that we have accomplished as a society, as a nation, and of the people who have made it possible for us

to be that,

be that beacon in the world that we still are, Glenn.

It's still there, however much people

try to extinguish the flame.

Arthur, I love talking to you.

I mean,

you should just come in and we should just do a whole show together because I still have about two hours left of stuff I want to ask you.

Thank you so much for your time, and we'll have you back again.

Arthur Herman, you can follow him on Twitter at Arthur L.

Herman.

His book that is a great entry for him is Freedom's Forge, which talks about how we won World War II.

It is an amazing story, and you'll all the way through it think, gosh, I wonder if corporations would do that now.

I wonder if we are those same people now.

Arthur Herman is his name.

Any of his books, any of them are tremendous.

You can also find him at hudson.org.

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When you actually see what is going on in our country, you'll be mad at both sides.

Both the Democrats and the Republicans can fix this in Congress right now.

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So where are our local officials?

We are going to talk to a mayor in Texas who his story of what's happening to his town is hair raising.

And we go there in one minute.

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Wake me, wake me, cause I need to move on.

Oh, I need to move on

and get on with it.

Let me give you some, let me give you some

illegal immigration stats.

Okay.

Now, these are just between 2011 and 2016.

Between 2011 and 2016,

there have been more than 500,000 criminal offenses, 996 homicides done by illegals, 996 homicides, 59,200 assaults, 14,000 burglaries, 58,000 drug charges, 605 kidnappings, 36,000 thefts, 39,000 obstructing police, 3,000 robberies, 5,000 rapes,

7,000 weapons charges.

That's just between the years 2011 and 2016 in Texas alone.

What are we doing?

The flood of illegals into Texas is going to kill Texas.

It's going to.

It is strangling these small cities, especially these little teeny cities on the border.

They're not getting any help from the federal government, and people are coming hundreds a day.

And what are they supposed to do about it?

Don McLaughlin, I've been trying to talk to him for about a week.

He's been up in Washington testifying.

He's really a little outspoken on this.

And when you hear his story of his town, what's happening in his town,

you'll see why he's outspoken.

Welcome to the program.

Mayor McLaughlin, how are you?

He dropped?

Are we going to get him back on?

I heard him speak in front of Congress.

And

when you hear somebody who is

actually living this,

and you hear him talk about, I mean,

a lot of the people in his town are Hispanic.

And

they don't want this either.

You know, this is not a race thing.

This isn't a phobia.

This is a real problem.

Mayor, welcome to the program.

How are you, sir?

Good.

Thank you.

I appreciate the opportunity.

How are you today?

Very good.

I heard you speak.

I think it was to Horowitz on the Blaze.

And

your story is amazing.

Can you tell me what's happening in your town?

Sure.

As we've been saying, the Border Patrol is just inundated with these family units that are crossing the border.

And the misconception that

is out there is that everybody thinks this is strictly just South Americans that are from Mexico and Guatemala and Honduras and El Salvador.

Well, it's 29 different countries are crossing the

southern border,

not just from there.

And they're coming from all over.

And it's just they're coming in family units.

And it's un the Border Patrol is just slammed.

And these family units, so

as they're getting slammed, they're having to come out and start releasing these family units because they have no place to put them.

They're at capacity at all their holding facilities.

And so they came to us in May and told us, oh, we're going to start releasing

immigrant families in your community.

We're going to release them up here at the Stripes Convenience Store or at your HEB or your Walmart.

And we said, whoa, whoa, whoa, we, you know, no, we're not, we're not set up to handle that.

You know, it's not that we don't want to help them.

We're just, you know, we're a town of 17,000 people.

We're just not, you know, we're just not set up to handle that.

And so

how many a day were they talking, and how many a day are actually coming?

Well, when they first started, we were talking about getting 10 to 20.

Then it went to 20 to 40.

Then we ended up up to date, we've got

122.

We haven't got any in the last week only because only because the facility that we have here in Uvalde

is used for unaccompanied minors, and right now they are at capacity.

So many unaccompanied miners have come in the last week that they are full.

They cannot process any family units here in Uvalde now because so many unaccompanied minors have come across in the last week.

Now,

I heard you talk about how

there's one family who won't, the kids won't go swimming unless dad is

in the back by the pool with a shotgun because things are so crazy.

Well, what's happening?

What's happening?

The Border Patrol that usually

is watching for the

whether the coyotes that are bringing the immigrants through or where this particular landowner is out by the train, by the train tracks, his property is, and these immigrants get on these trains coming out of out of

Del Rio or Eagle Pass or even Lareda.

It's a main East and West railroad that comes through here.

And so they get on this train.

And so the Border Patrol has a

facility here where they stop the train and check it for immigrants.

Well, usually they have a pretty large contingency of Border Patrol when they stop that train.

and check it.

Well, they're so spread out and spread so thin now with these family units that they're all doing doing that that when they stop it, there may be anywhere from 30 to 40 people on that train, and you've got three Border Patrol agents trying to capture all these immigrants, and they don't have the manpower.

Since then, since this last incident, we're trying to fill in with our police department and the sheriff's department when they ask for it.

But what's happening, they're jumping off this train and running, and this particular landowner is starting to,

it's been going on at his property he said for the last 60 days but it just keeps getting worse and worse and about a week ago he had one that jumped off or a group that jumped off and came to his property and one particular individual got real aggressive uh with him uh threatening and uh

real aggressive and he did everything he could to try to catch him and and get him they uh brought a helicopter out and tried to find him and didn't didn't find him but the man threatened him and told him he was going to come back and get him and different things and he said he and his wife you know didn't sleep a wink that night because the guy told him he was coming back that night to get him.

And we didn't catch him in town either.

And we looked.

But

that's when he said it.

And when I was talking to him, he said, it's gotten so bad that my grandkids won't even come out to the house and go swimming unless I sit out in the backyard with a shotgun because we never know when they're going to show up.

That's crazy.

It is.

And

you're a town of 17,000.

So you're not a town that has Starsky and Hutch kind of car chases ever, right?

No, we,

in the last 25 years,

we've had maybe two car chases.

In the last two weeks, we've had five.

Two of them have bailed out in town where we've had to put our schools on lockdown.

The first one, there were eight individuals.

So they jumped out in the middle of town right by our schools.

So we had to lock all our schools down.

We spent most of the day, we caught those eight individuals.

The other day, we had four that jumped out of a car.

The l the lady that was that was transporting them claimed that one of them had a gun, and that's why she was transporting them.

The Border Patrol says that they don't think that was probably true, but we didn't know, but we didn't catch those four.

But again, we had to put another school in lockdown because it was in close proximity to where they jumped out.

And we're seeing this more and more.

So so

we're talking to Mayor Don McLaughlin,

a border town here in Texas that is, and this story is not unique.

It's happening where the people of the town are paying a price.

And Don, I've talked about the Bubba effect for a very long time, that the government just

stops doing what it's supposed to do.

And the people of the town, you know, become really angry and start to take things in their own hands because the government is not doing it.

And I'm not saying that you're there or anything else, and God forbid we ever get there.

But what is the attitude towards the federal government from your citizens?

Both Republican and Democrat.

Well, they're fed up with both sides because, like I said, like I said before, this isn't a Republican problem or a Democrat problem.

It's an American problem.

It's an American people problem.

I mean, it's both sides and both sides are and

people in my community are fed up.

They're frustrated

with us as as local government because we're having to use city funds and county funds when they drop these immigrant families off here in Uvalde.

We're having to take them and we're having to pay for a bus to take them to San Antonio because we don't have the facilities to do it.

So we're spending

right.

And San Antonio doesn't have the funding either.

And San Antonio is dealing now, as you said, these people are not coming from Guatemala.

They're dealing with people coming from the Congo, which is the Ebola hotspot and a place where ISIS has been recruiting lately.

I mean, we don't know who's coming in and bringing what into our communities, and they're being dumped.

Well, I asked our federal, I asked, I sent all our elected officials an email when this first started the other day.

When in Del Rio, Texas, the first wave, 115

immigrants from the Congo showed up in Del Rio, Texas.

I mean, if you look on the map and see where the Congo is, and then you look on the map and see where Del Rio, Texas is, how did 115

Congolese get to Del Rio, Texas?

Then two days later, they got another 350 from Congolese.

Right.

And they also don't speak a word of English or Spanish.

How did they get here?

How did they get here?

And nobody can tell us that answer.

And we've, like I said,

up until the last day or so, we have seen nothing from the federal government as far as any answers, any help.

We've asked for help to get reimbursed.

We've asked what we're going to do.

And until yesterday, it's the first time that we've seen anything that there's been a bill to reimburse communities for the expenses they're out.

I mean, Del Rio, Texas,

which is 60 miles from us, they're getting inundated.

I mean, they're getting 140 to 160 people released in their community every day.

And before they got a coalition going, they were just taking them and dropping them off at the local stripes.

And it's not the Border Patrol's fault because they're being told

by Washington, this is what you're going to do.

I mean, our local Border Patrol in this area, they work with our communities.

I mean, they're good people and they work hard.

I mean,

but they're just

strapped.

I've only got about a minute left.

Is the governor's office, is Texas doing anything?

Are they doing enough?

Where's our leadership from Texas?

Well,

again, we're just starting to hear rumblings

that the governor is going to deploy more DPS troopers and that.

We haven't seen it yet.

I haven't seen anything to that effect.

I was told that last night.

I haven't seen anything in writing of that.

But, you know, like I said,

we have written letters, called to all our elected officials, and we're just not getting responses.

We're just not getting

it's like it's falling on deaf ears.

That's amazing to me.

Don, thank you so much.

Um, and uh, my best to your community, and please stay in touch with us if there's any way we can help or if you need to bring shine a light onto something, please let us know and we'll be there for you.

I do appreciate the opportunity.

Thank you.

You bet.

Thank you.

Mayor Don McLaughlin from Uvalde, Texas.

I want to give you some other stats here to show you.

If we lose Texas politically,

it's over.

It's over.

Since 2000, and this is only up to 2011, so we're not counting any of the Obama surge or this surge.

Since the year 2000, the immigrant population has grown by 43%.

That's legal and illegal in Texas.

The national immigration population has grown by 28% during the same timeframe.

The immigrant population stood at

4.1 million, an increase of 1.5 million in a decade.

28% live in poverty, 41% lack health insurance, 45% use at least one welfare program, primarily food assistance and Medicaid, and 46% of these immigrants never completed high school.

That was the previous decade, not the one we're in.

We're losing everything if we don't grab a hold of our borders and do it now.

Boy, I would like to wake those in Washington.

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You know what's amazing to me is you look at Texas and then you look at California.

California, Los Angeles, their homeless problem, and they have no idea what's causing it.

Their homeless problem in Los Angeles is now

entering third world status.

Third world.

Now, why is that?

California,

why is this happening to you?

And it has nothing to do with Hispanics.

It has everything to do with your policies.

If you look,

you compare the state of New York and the state of Texas.

I don't know of race problems in Texas.

Okay, I mean, there's always racists, you know, everywhere, blah, blah, blah.

But we don't, we're not having race riots or anything else like that.

I don't hear any Texans complaining about Hispanics.

I don't hear it.

Now, I'm sure there are, but I don't hear it.

You look at

our immigration,

our immigrant population, mainly Hispanic, grew 43%

in the last decade.

I know it's higher than that now.

It has to be.

Let's compare this with the state of New York.

Immigrant population only increased in New York 11%

compared to Texas at 43%.

But we don't have a problem with it.

22% live in poverty.

22% live in poverty in New York.

22% lack health health care.

41% are on major welfare programs.

And only 20% completed high school.

46% in Texas didn't complete high school.

Now, why is this?

Why can Texas handle this and not become New York, not become California?

Because some of the policies that we have actually work.

We have a ban against sanctuary cities, but then again, our federal government is dumping illegals into our cities.

Isn't that a violation of our sanctuary cities?

I think so.

Where is Ted Cruz?

Where is Cornyn?

And my favorite governor I've ever had in a state, Greg Abbott, where are you?

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So, Stu, I think I have a billion-dollar idea.

Really?

But you are the food.

You're the food guy.

So just hear me out.

So earlier today, I talked to you about, and this, I know this, this sounds racist, but it's not racist.

But that's what a racist says before they say something racist.

So

I'm in this feedback loop I can't get out of.

I am having a hard time finding somebody to chink this old log cabin.

We have an old log cabin from 1880

and nothing's ever been done to it.

And so we're redoing it.

And

I can't do any more until it's re-chinked which is the white stuff in between

the logs and so if you happen to be a chinker and you know somebody that does this boy could I use your help right now you can just call me call me anyway so it's the when you say the white stuff like

think of a log cabin yeah and you know the logs and then the space between the logs the stuff that fills is usually white

right that's chinking okay and you can't just just do it.

I mean, it's a real art to do it.

And when you do a log cabin and you do it right, and the chinking is right, it is, it holds the heat.

It holds the cold.

I mean, it's, it's really an amazing thing.

But it's a, it's, you know, a lost art.

And apparently, uh, there's like two people in my area that do it.

And they're like, yeah, we're six months out, which you can't do it in six months because you can't can't do it in the cold.

And so it's just a, so I'm like a year away from being able to do something if I can't get somebody to re-chink it.

So

I don't know how you find people that do chinking that are good.

I have no idea.

But I had another idea.

And here's the food.

Here's the food thing, okay?

What would you say?

to a log cabin made entirely out of bacon or sausage,

and it's held together with maple syrup.

So you're...

Now I could live in this, I could live in this until I ate one of the walls.

Right.

So a half an hour, you could live in it.

And then...

Yes.

And then it would be.

I may not ever finish it.

If I had to build it, I would never finish it.

It would always, it'd be like one of those cathedrals that are like, you know, they've been building it for 400 years.

Except mine would be only about, you know, 600 square feet.

It feels like when you were describing this process, what immediately came to mind was once a year, I'm sitting around trying to build a gingerbread house, and you're putting icing in between the

exactly what it is.

Right.

You're trying to get it to all stick together.

So I took all the chinking out on the inside.

And once I got it all the way out on four walls, you know, I should have read, I should have read, should have studied up on this.

The entire cabin started to move.

And so we can't take the chinking out on the outside because there's nothing really holding this thing together.

And, you know, I was just trying to help out.

You know, I was just like, hey, I'll do that because why waste somebody else's time?

I'll do all.

I'll get rid of it.

So we got rid of it and we did a really good job.

I didn't think it through.

That's what's holding this whole thing up.

Yeah, that's

seemingly would be obvious, I think, to most people.

But

apparently.

you could make a case.

You could make a case that that's just for the

weather, keeping the elements out, you know, keeping it so the wind's not blowing through those holes.

You could make that case.

Right, right.

This is like when you must

be wrong in our studios, and you just come into the room and no one's around, so you just start pressing buttons, which that always helps a lot.

I mean, it's because there's a good chance you're going to press one of the right buttons in the right order.

Right.

Right.

It doesn't happen, but one day it will.

Right.

I mean, they always say that if you, if you put a chimpanzee in front of a typewriter, eventually a novel comes out.

Just a matter of

matter

how many generations you have to wait.

Probably a lot.

So do you know who kind of changed subjects here?

Do you know who Granger Smith is?

No.

He's a country music artist.

Okay.

Country music artist.

Excuse me.

He's had a couple of number one hits.

He has

been, he's really gone through

hell.

His, how old was his son?

Uh, three.

Oh, yeah.

I did see it.

Excuse me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So he's out with his son, and he is thinking, this is the greatest moment of my life.

He's out in the backyard playing with his son.

This is the greatest moment of my life.

Literally,

no more than three to five minutes later, he's giving his son CPR.

And his son went into the pool, drowned, and died.

And

he's sharing some of his thoughts now.

And I just want to share this with you because

this is the way I feel right now, all the time.

He wrote, what if we were all given a thousand days?

What if you were given a gift of a thousand days on this earth and you could live those days barefoot, red hair flying back on your tractor full speed ahead.

If you could do that with your family around you, with no real care in the world,

that's a good thousand days.

That's a good way to live.

And

I tell you,

we're missing some of that.

I mean, everybody is going to always have cares.

You know, we've been up here and,

you know, we've had all kinds of things go wrong.

A well go wrong.

The weather went wrong for the farm and everything else.

So you'll always have those.

But I don't know.

There's nothing like

some of my best memories as a child is holding onto the back of the seat of the tractor

and standing basically on the

axle or the hitch in the back of the tractor as my grandfather was driving through the fields.

There is something to be said as we're entering summer and in summer now

for that

shift down

getting out of that rat race all the time that we're in with school and with homework and everything else and just

living barefoot and

letting your hair fly wild and just spend it with your family and trying to do that.

Um, I've spent

this year has been really tough for my son.

Really, really tough.

It started last year.

If you have been following the story, I've only really talked about it once and I don't want to go into it again.

But last year we had a real

scare with my son and a security issue with my son.

And

that

affected him.

And

he's really struggled with a lot of things.

And

he's coming up on 15 years old and so he's a typical boy and I've

I've done more as a dad I think with him than any of my other children sadly

because

he's been close to the edge he's really been close to the edge so I've been with him a lot and I I've spent the last few weeks with him by my side and the last two weeks, and I thank you for putting up with any kind of problems, and I thank my engineering staff and the studio staff for making all of this possible.

But spent the last two weeks with him just, you know,

building fences,

you know,

tearing things down

and

working outside and

just being so exhausted that he's asleep by seven o'clock at night.

And he has

he's changed.

changed he has really changed

and we'll see how long it holds um but

just by saying yeah no no electronics

uh he bitched and whined for a while um

but then he became so busy he he didn't even ask for it

um and I know that's going to change the minute we get into places where you can get cell service and internet but

kids don't want to slow down, but when you put them in a situation

where the family is slowed down and you're just out doing the things that you would have done as a kid,

it roots them.

It does root them.

And I challenge you to

take the words of Granger Smith to heart.

Because we are all given a thousand days.

We just don't recognize it.

The days pass, and you're just like, oh, it's just another day.

And before you know it, you're old.

And

they've slipped through your fingers.

This summer, begin just to think:

if I only had 30 days, if I was given a gift of 30 days, what would I do?

How would I do that with my kids?

Then make it 60 days.

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It is very revealing what Americans know about capitalism and socialism.

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the fact that 40% of those 18 to 24-year-old adults are no longer using deodorant.

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you know, everybody's got an armpit.

Nobody wants to smell yours.

Let's just keep that in mind.

That's on tomorrow's program.

Now, Stu,

the Chuck Todd, Ocasio-Cortez, border, Barack Obama thing is

unbelievable.

Yeah, do we have to?

Because where were these?

Yeah, go ahead.

Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I don't know where they've been.

So AOC says the thing about the border being like concentration camps.

She won't back off of that.

She gets almost no pushback from the media or the left.

People are going out of their way to defend them.

Well, there was concentration camps in the Russian wars previously to the Holocaust.

Maybe that's what she was referring to.

Shut up.

Even though she said, you know, what was it, never forget, or whatever it was, like blatantly,

we know what she was talking about.

Everybody does.

And they're doing this sort of retroactive fix-her comment thing.

Well, Chuck Todd is like the only person out there on the, you know, in the mainstream media who actually pushed back against this.

Can we hear some of that audio?

If you want to criticize the shameful treatment of of people at our southern border, fine.

You'll have plenty of company, but be careful comparing them to Nazi concentration camps, because they're not at all comparable in the slightest.

But here's where it's upsetting as her comment.

Some Democrats have been reluctant to condemn her remarks.

They don't want to get criticized on Twitter.

Fellow New York Congressman Jerry Nadler tweeted in response: One of the lessons from the Holocaust is never again.

We fail to learn that lesson when we don't call out such inhumanity right in front of us.

Jerry Nadler surely knows migrant detainment camps are not the same as concentration camps.

So why didn't he just say that?

Why are we so sheep as calling out people we agree with politically these days?

Obviously, this isn't a Democratic Party thing.

It's an even bigger problem on the Republican side of the aisle when it comes to President Trump and the reluctance there.

Are we really so ensconced in our political bubbles, liberal versus conservative, that we cannot talk about right versus wrong anymore?

Some things are bigger than partisanship, or at least they used to be.

Yeah.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah.

But again, like, at least he's standing up and saying, okay, this is ridiculous.

Obviously, those comments are absurd.

Apparently not.

Took

huge bravery because he's under attack now.

Yeah, so he's trending on Twitter.

You think, okay, wow, someone stands up to the powers that be in the Democratic Party and calls him out.

Maybe that's why he's trending.

No, here's the description.

Chuck Todd.

Chuck Todd takes heat.

for criticizing the use of concentration camps to describe the humanitarian crisis at the border.

So it's not that Ocasio-Cortez or all the people defending her are the problem.

It's the one person in the media anyone could find on the left that actually took this to task.

Pretty freaking amazing.

It's not, they're not even,

Chuck Todd, thank you.

Thank you for doing that.

I mean, we disagree on an awful lot of things, I'm sure.

But when somebody does something right that took courage and will take on the mob, thank you, Chuck Todd.

I think we should tweet or, you know, Facebook or email him and just say thank you.

We don't agree on anything or everything,

but your bravery was noticed.

Thank you.

That is exactly what I wrote.

I sent him a messenger pigeon that is arriving at the NBC studios right now with a handwritten note.

I sent him a stripogram.

You did?

Yeah.

Real.

A mail stripogram.

A mail stripogram.

Yeah.

I misunderstood the mail.

I thought it was M-A-I-L-L, and it turns out it wasn't.

So if it causes any embarrassment or any kind of problems at NBC, I am heartfelt sorry.

And the only way to apologize for that is to send another male stripogram.

Wright, right.

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