Best of the Program | Guests: Jeffy Fisher & Brad Thor | 6/18/19

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Also,

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They're all racist statements.

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Okay, I hate that Joe Biden.

The one I love is the crazy one that says things like, Obama just didn't have any time to explain it.

You know, and if you go into a 7-Eleven, you're going to find nothing but Indians running the running the joints.

Yeah.

I mean, I love that, Joe Biden.

It's the same Joe Biden that explained to us that

going to get Osama bin Laden was the most difficult decision in 500 years.

Yeah.

Like, first of all, like, the one that makes everybody, the one that is not left or right, makes everybody go.

Wait a minute.

I thought that was a pretty easy decision.

I don't know what he's talking about.

Hey, the most world's most dangerous terrorists.

Should we get him?

Come back to me in five centuries.

Like, that's not it.

We've been looking for him for five years.

We've been at war.

We've spent about a trillion dollars.

I don't know.

I don't know.

You know why this is so hard?

I'm trying to figure out how to explain health care.

That's why I should we kill, should we kill Obama or Osama bin Laden when I'm trying to work on Obamacare?

I don't know.

I don't know.

It's a tough decision.

Okay, so yesterday, and I love this because this is truly Joe Biden.

And it's going to be interesting to see the two of these guys go head to head.

And also to see the press.

Remember, the press was all upset.

All of the violence, any violence, any violence that happens anywhere in the world is going to be Donald Trump's fault.

Did you hear him?

What he's saying?

He's encouraging people to punch people.

Okay, all right.

I was with you on that.

I didn't like like that when the president was like you know what take him out and beat the crap out of him

i didn't like that

uh however he was not calling for a revolution which joe biden let's see if anybody in the press notices this one

here's what he said yesterday about a brass knuckle fight

Joy, I know you're one of the ones that think it's naive to think we have to work together.

The fact of the matter is we can't get a consensus and nothing happens except the abuse of power by the executive.

Zero.

Number one.

Number two, there are certain things where it just takes a brass knuckle fight.

There's no way to do it.

You have to go out and beat these folks

if they don't agree with you by making your case.

And that's what presidents are supposed to do.

Persuade the public.

Move people as to what's going on.

If you start off with the notion there's nothing you can do, well, why don't you all go home then, man?

Or let's start a real physical revolution if you're talking about it.

Because we have to be able to change what we're doing within our system

so so i'm trying to i i'm i'm i'm trying to decide is he because he's talking to religious leaders which i love i just love the fact that he's he's having this conversation with religious leaders um

so is he calling for revolution or is he because if we don't give him the benefit of the doubt He was calling for revolution.

But if we give him the benefit of the doubt, he was saying, what?

Look,

there's no other option.

If you can't make the case, there's no other option.

Right?

Right.

He's saying that not necessarily he's rooting for some sort of

physical revolution.

He's just saying, like, you know,

we can convince them.

And if we can convince them, we don't need that.

That's never going to happen.

He's not advocating for it.

And of course, this is the type of analysis that the left would never give to Donald Trump or anyone on the right.

But I mean, the bottom line is I think you can make a fair point that he's not calling for it.

He's saying, he's saying, like, I'm warning you of it, right?

There are people who will go to

conspiracy theory.

So

it's what they would say about you for sure.

Right.

I just want to say that the headlines that are wrong, the headlines should be that he's a conspiracy theorist saying that a revolution is coming.

I mean, that's what they would say about you.

And did, by the way, say about you when you said this, because, I mean, you've said multiple times a very similar brand of analysis, which is, look,

we can't, you know, there are going to be people coming and taking people out of buildings and

beating them in the streets, and we're going to see real strife.

How many times, we were just watching a clip of Andrew Wilkow from Blaze TV, who was highlighting all of these incidents where people are now walking up to women on the streets who happen to be Trump supporters and kicking them and punching them in the face because they're quote-unquote Nazis.

In fact, let's play that because I think this is really important.

Because what he's saying is, if you can't convince, well, they're done convincing.

Remember, the left is the one that's saying the conversation is over.

There's no more dialogue on things like global warming.

You are a denier or you're standing in the way of progress because of X, Y, and Z.

Remember, yesterday we played the audio that I want a

what would you call it?

I mean, really, a communist government.

This is the city councilwoman from Denver says she wants all shared property, all shared everything.

She was looking at a communist kind of way of life, and she said, and I'm willing to fight for it any means necessary.

So they are there.

Many of these revolutionaries are already there.

But let's just not say that without backing it up.

This is from Andrew Wilkow and his program on Blaze TV just last night.

You know, barely a day goes by where we don't see some sort of incident of violence or threat of violence from progressives.

Here's a quick reminder: highlight reel, if you will.

Look at this.

This woman just...

It's always nice to highlight pillars of the community.

It's remarkable

what is happening.

And then I want to show you the reason why a lot of this is happening is because, and I'm going to just be real frank with you, people are stupid.

That's why.

People think they know more than they do.

They think they're so smart and nobody has, everybody is filled with hubris and they have absolutely no

humility.

They think they know and as soon as they are corrected, they don't know what to do.

because their whole world is about to fall apart.

We'll go there.

So there's a couple of things here.

We have Ami Horowitz going inside the Muslim Brotherhood, which

we have to get into in a little while.

But we also have from campus reform,

they went to Marymount University.

Cabot Phillips did, and he said,

I just want to read some statements to you.

And you tell me, is this Joe Biden or Donald Trump?

And he was posing as students against racist Trump quotes.

Listen to this.

First quote, you cannot go to a 7-Eleven or Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.

Who you think said that?

Trump.

Trump.

That sounds like a Trump quote.

That's a big yikes.

But

I might say Donald Trump.

Donald Trump.

Donald Trump.

Next up, this was to a largely African-American audience.

Quote, if my opponent wins, they're going to put y'all back in chains.

Trump again.

Wow.

I still think that's Donald Trump.

Oh, definitely Trump.

Trump.

Donald Trump.

Joe Biden.

Next up, this was about President Obama.

He called him, quote, the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.

By Trump.

I'll go Trump again.

Who do you think said that?

I think Trump said that.

Donald Trump.

What if I told you that all of those are actually Joe Biden?

All right, there it is.

Is that surprising?

Yeah, very.

That's crazy.

Is that surprising?

Yeah.

That's not.

Oh, oh, that's bad.

Is that surprising to you?

Yeah, I mean, they're all pretty racist.

So,

not really good.

Ah, well, that's surprising.

That's really surprising.

Why is that surprising?

I've never heard any of those things before.

So...

The fact that you told me that, now I'm like, damn, is he really who he say he is?

I don't think that's something I want to really support.

Would this potentially impact your vote?

Of course.

Why is that?

Well, I mean, like, since I thought all that was Trump, like, I thought, like, that was going to be a slam dunk, but apparently, you know, I got to reconsider that.

So, I'll just look more in-depth, really.

Would these quotes potentially lead you to another candidate?

Yeah,

definitely, absolutely.

Personally,

probably.

I would have to really do my research.

Yeah, I think it would.

Interesting.

At least they're being consistent there.

So,

what does that show you?

What do you take away from that besides the, oh, that was fun.

Look at the dummies.

Well, first of all, it was fun.

Look at the dummies.

But, second of all, I would say

it's one of those things where forget the fact that obviously the double standard on what is racist, speaker or not,

is a big problem here.

I mean, you know, this is a great example.

You brought up as well,

the talk about revolution.

And this is one of the most clear ways the media is actually biased in which they believe Joe Biden is a good guy, so therefore they don't assign negative intent to his statements.

And the same thing here with the racism stuff.

They believe Joe Biden isn't racist because they like him and they think he's a good guy.

So therefore, those statements aren't problematic.

May I disagree with you just a bit, and I'd like to hear your opinion on this.

I'm not sure that they do like him.

I think they like him as much as they liked Hillary Clinton, you know, in 2006.

He's just a vehicle.

He's not.

They'll take him down the minute

they feel they can because they have another option.

I think you're right on that.

I think that they don't want to destroy him right now because they think he might wreck.

And they see, and this is not how I feel, obviously, but they see the media, like the media sees itself as a problem as to how it treated Hillary Clinton.

They think, this is serious, they think they were too tough on Hillary Clinton in 2016, and it's one of the reasons why Trump won.

Now, I know that feels like a completely different world, and it is.

It's D.C., it's New York, it's the media.

But that's how they see that and how it played out.

So they're very careful here.

They will destroy Joe Biden if they can get someone else who they see as better, more to the left than Joe Biden.

They don't want Biden to be the able to do it.

If Joe Biden were close to everybody else, they would be torpedoing him right now.

But because he's so far ahead in the polls and looks to be the only guy that could beat Donald Trump, they are not going to go after him.

Yeah.

They did a little bit, and his poll numbers really are the same, and it doesn't look like Joe Biden's going anywhere.

And so they're going to back off on him.

But

what I found was the most important part of this was when she said, I haven't heard any of that.

Yeah.

I haven't heard any of that.

Yeah, that's fascinating.

And again, these are not even new quotes.

Now, the media gave him a huge break because he was essentially

Barack Obama's vice president.

So he had a clear ride through a lot of that.

But I think

piggybacking on what you're saying is the most important thing, Glenn, the fact that they didn't know this, is another thing which shows why they're all Democrats, why they're all socialists, why they believe every Republican is a racist.

The second they hear the the quote, they actually all change their minds about Joe Biden.

And that's, I think, actually worse.

Like, you don't know the context.

You have no idea what's going on.

You're going to change your opinion on a man from a quote that's completely out of context from a person you don't know who does have an agenda?

Like,

that's a huge problem.

The research needs to be done.

You need to have principles.

These things can't just be these flippant decisions, and that's the bigger problem.

So

here's the thing.

This is why they're silencing voices.

This is why they must put Steven Crowder out.

They must put

Mark Levin or anybody else.

They must put them out of business.

Because once you hear the facts,

you change.

Once you hear, I mean, look at what's happening with Bridget Fettesey.

If you've been watching her or following her transition, it's remarkable.

She tweeted yesterday.

I always hated myself.

And now I realize because I was liberal,

she is really, she's doing the work and she's realizing I'm not that.

I'm not sure what I am, but I'm not that.

That's why you've got to shut down speech and thinking.

If you hit critical thinking, it all falls apart.

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It's a little downloaded as a Posca.

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What is it, Mountain?

Thank you.

It's 5 to 7, Mountain.

And

4 to 6.

I'm in Hawaii.

When do I tune in?

I think three in the morning.

Yeah.

And a lot of Hawaiians get up to listen to it live.

If I were in Tibet and I was the one with the outlet,

it's going to be three o'clock in the afternoon.

Three o'clock in the afternoon.

You don't even have to get up early, you bet.

Wow, that's great.

That's where you should be.

Actually, Tibet's going to be 3:15 because

they're.

Really?

Yeah.

Like nine hours and 15 minutes ahead of us.

15 minutes.

Yeah, yeah.

So let me ask you this:

is

because God seems to target,

you know, like trailer parks and things like that when he, you know, throws down a tornado.

Is God trying to kill Jeffy?

That's what I'd like to know.

There does seem to be a lot of evidence pointing this direction.

Man,

they really are hammering.

Jeffy.

I got an email from him, what, yesterday, I think, that said,

hey, really bad storm, you know, and tornado in our neighborhood, and I lost part of my roof.

And I was like, oh, man, you need anything, blah, blah, blah.

And then I never hear from him again, and I stop thinking about it because I've lost part of my roof in, you know, in a storm here in Texas, too.

Like, you know, they'll have to come and replace some of the shingles.

Apparently, that's not

the kind of I lost part of my roof.

He literally had the tornado rip part of his house off of his house.

Yeah, where the elements were pouring in.

Yeah, the elements poured into the rooms where they lost the house, and those are all severely damaged.

And then a tree fell across his neighbor's driveway, and he lost his fence.

They're living in a hotel.

It's not even livable.

So, yeah, they got hit hard.

Well, he sent a picture this morning where a board from his fence blew apparently so hard it went through the wall of his bedroom

right by his headboard.

Again, God sending messages to telling you, God.

Yeah.

And you can actually, from the inside, see the hole that was made by a board coming through the wall.

That is like twister level crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah, I remember my grandfather talking about, you know, he lived in Nebraska and Iowa, and he said, we talked about the tornadoes, and he said, I saw hay driven through telephone poles.

And it's an amazing

tornadoes are just frightening as heck.

And they will do, I mean, we've seen it when we went up to Moore, Oklahoma.

You remember that?

It like takes a house and just makes it into a mulch.

It's an incredible force of nature.

And it met its match with Jeff Fisher.

It could not lift him out of the house, though.

That is the good news.

It could not lift him.

His entire family clung to him, and so they were all safe.

Wow, that's amazing.

Yeah, it's incredible.

It's an amazing story.

So that's yeah, did they cling to him, or did he just say, hey, take one of my shirts or a pair of my underpants and use it as a safety?

You know, I didn't get the

details.

I just, I just know that because the tornado couldn't lift him, everybody was hanging on to him for dear life.

Can you share the picture?

Because I didn't get the picture.

I can't download any pictures up here in the mountains.

You know, God forbid that you could actually have communication systems in a place like this.

I doubt he has something.

We have a satellite.

We have a giant satellite sitting in our front yard,

and yet I can't, so we can be on

television and radio, but I can't download a single picture.

Maybe you should

put it on television so I can see it.

Well, yeah, okay.

I can try to do that.

I don't know that we have approval, but again, Jeffy's sort of an overture, so I don't

care.

Yeah, who cares?

So, what did it?

We have to get him on the air.

In fact, why don't we take a quick break and see if we can get him on the air?

Do we know where he's staying?

I don't, but he's got a cell phone, so it doesn't matter.

Okay, so yeah, so let's call him

because I'd like to know where were they when this happened and what did it sound like.

So, Jeffy

was not sucked up in a tornado, but his house was.

He was in the house.

Lucky for him, he has gained all of that weight back and then some.

Wait, wait.

Welcome, Jeff Fisher.

Wait, what?

What does that mean?

Well, it means that you had enough girth to be, you know, sort of anchored as the tornado blew through your home.

Now, I don't have a picture.

I know you sent a picture, but I don't have a picture.

I don't have it in color.

I was able to download this picture of the scene,

And you see his family hanging on his belt

and the tornado with the house, and even the witch on the bicycle behind him.

Wow.

That's the scene

as captured by Kodak.

I'm sure that's an authentic picture.

Yeah, well, it's not in color, obviously, because he's in the mountains and can't download it completely in color.

So, anyway, how are you, Jeffy?

I'm fine, thank you.

Everybody's fine.

It was certainly scary at the time, that's for sure.

I haven't seen where they actually said it was a tornado in my area.

It was up and down this entire swath that the storm went.

And it was definitely a tornado.

I mean, I watched it

out my back door standing in the kitchen with my daughter as the rain went left as it went from going going straight down to left and then went back to the right

and then went back to the left.

And between that time, my partner

blew off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then between that time, the roof fell off, so he doesn't have any hair.

So it's absolutely Joe Biden.

So, so, Jeffy, I mean, were you guys just in the kitchen or

a safe place?

We were backing up into a safe place.

I mean, during the whole time, I mean, it was was just like,

this is a tornado, and it's not good.

And then it was over.

I mean, that's how, if it was a bigger tornado, you know, I mean, more of the house would have been torn up, no question.

But, I mean, all the fences in the neighborhood is blown up.

A tree in the front yard snapped about four feet from the ground.

That's in the neighbor's front yard.

But that wind could not move you.

No, you're absolutely correct.

It did not.

The room that I was in is important.

There's no leaking.

There's nothing there.

Everything is fine.

And my daughter was saying, boy, it's good.

I'm with you.

Right.

Hanging on to you.

Right.

Yeah.

Hanging on to your belt.

It's like that scene in

that scene in Twister where they're hanging on to the

belt around that pipe.

That was good to be involved.

Except it was a bigger pipe.

Yeah.

So what did it sound like, Jeff?

It was just, it was more, I mean, I know a lot of people talk about, you know, sounding like a train or whatever, but it was just loud wind.

You know, I mean, it was just, you feel that, you hear that loud wind.

And it's gone in, I mean, it was not

a minute.

You know, I mean, maybe, maybe a minute.

I mean, not even for the main part of that, the wind and the storm was maybe a minute.

I mean, I guess maybe two.

It just seemed like it went on, and then it was gone.

Then it was just raining.

And water started to leak through the, you know, the upper roof,

upper rooms.

I mean, the ceiling has fallen through, and one room and the other room is about ready to go.

Oh, man, that is terrible because you had just gone to Best Buy and bought all those really expensive electronics, remember?

I do, as a matter of fact, and all that new bedroom furniture, and all that.

What happened to that really expensive piece of art that you just bought?

That was blown out, right?

It's gone.

Wow, wow.

Everything under the insulation is all brand new electronics.

So,

you sent a photo of what appears to be a board sneaking its way almost through

your head while you were sleeping.

We have this picture.

I mean, like, legitimately, you can see a board pushing its way through the edge of the wall from the outside.

I mean, it looks like something from Twister.

Yeah,

behind our side wall of our bedroom is obviously just fencing and yard.

And you can see where pieces of wood, I'm guessing pieces of fence, were slammed up against the side of the bedroom.

And two or three of the pieces smashed through the wall.

One came all the way through, smashing into the headboard of our bed.

I mean, that's what stopped it from coming all the way in.

So I tell you, Jeffy, and I mean this sincerely.

I mean, you had a heart attack earlier this year.

now you're going through this i thought god was probably trying to kill you with a heart attack but is it just possible that he's just trying to stop you from procreating anymore it is it is possible yes it is possible glenn you could be right yes i could be okay

it's been a really tough year for you jeffy sincerely it's been a it's been an awful year for you

you know it it's it's fine don't worry about it everything's fine glenn don't worry about oh none of us none of us were worried at all.

I hate to give you that.

We're just noticing.

Did I just, did I, did I misinterpret that?

Sorry.

I apologize.

Yeah, no, there's no concern here on our part.

Okay.

Yeah, no, the house is fine.

When they refit, after they fix it and the foundation is fixed, it'll be fine.

There's one big pillar, one pillar that goes to the top of the trailer that's completely off.

I mean, it's about halfway down, and I'm not even sure how long the house will be livable for a while.

I will say, this is one of those moments where you celebrate the joys of renting.

I know, I mean,

because Jeffy, because

I would rent it for the rest of my life if I could, and I swear, like, renting, and you have one of these things come down.

You, I mean, look, you've got a situation to deal with, you know, with no doubt, but not having to go through and deal with all the insurance companies, all this other stuff, at least you have some of that shielded from you in this particular situation.

Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.

There's no question about that.

But, I mean, you still gotta, you still have to go through it and try to get the house livable or move again.

Yeah.

Well, the fact that you just bought 320 Apple

iPads and

wide screen TVs and you put them all under the bottom.

It didn't suck up all that gold

that you just purchased, did it?

But I will say the Liberty Safe did stand tall, so no problem.

Did it?

Did it?

Yes, it did.

Did it?

Yes, it did.

Now, Jeffy, this is not.

Good hanging on to you as well.

It's funny.

It is funny, right?

That's funny.

It is funny.

Yeah, it is funny.

Now, Jeffy, this is not going to prevent you from hosting this tour of the museum that we're doing together coming up in only 11 days, right?

I can still depend on you for that.

Sure.

Good, because I won't be able to make it, so if you don't mind taking the lead on it, I appreciate that.

Yeah, sure.

Absolutely.

I should be back to that.

I should be back to, you know, one of the fastest growing podcasts in America, Chewing the Fat very soon.

Now, take your time.

You know, take your time.

Don't rush.

Don't rush to get back.

You sure?

Any idea how long it's going to take to get the house livable again?

I really, no, no, no.

I mean, I have the electricians out yesterday, and he was like,

you can turn the AC on.

I mean, I would if I lived here, but you probably shouldn't.

Okay.

Okay.

Sincerely, Jeff, we have, I mean,

sincerely, sincerely, we have extra rooms at our house that are sadly in use, but Pat has plenty of room.

Which I told him last night,

which I told him.

And he's like, oh, no.

We'd rather be at the Motel 6.

That's.

Or something to the point.

No, sincerely, Jeffy, you know, you can stay at our place.

I know Pat is sincere about that as well.

Stu doesn't want you anywhere near his place.

No, no, I would would rather no one.

I'm not even going to play the game.

I'm not offering it under any circumstance.

That's good.

I'm not going to feed you.

No.

I'm not going to feed you.

No.

I mean,

it's not like we're built to be a deal.

And you'd have to bring your own sheets because I don't want you to laying on pine.

But I have a covered area for my carport that you guys could live under for a while.

You guys are

so thoughtful.

I really appreciate it.

Thank you so much.

That's awesome.

It means a lot.

Yeah.

My family really appreciates it.

And it's so typical, your luck for this to happen right after you buy the Picasso.

I mean, it's just

what are the odds of that?

Thank you.

What did you pay for that?

There's no rank million, except

there's no record of that except for the three of us.

But he'll testify on your behalf.

Thank you.

All right.

Thank you so much, Jeff.

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We welcome a good friend, Brad Thor, back to the program.

Hello, Brad.

How are you?

Good morning.

I'm doing well, thank you.

Good.

Long time, no talk.

It has been a while.

I've been writing a new book, so I've been in the bunker.

I know.

So when is the book out?

It's called My New Thriller is called Backlash, and it debuts a week from today.

Week from today.

Okay, so we'll have you on to talk about the book.

It's about Russia, is it not?

It is.

It is about Russia.

It's a real fun thriller, something I've never done before, and

a topic I haven't done before.

And I think I've come at the book with something nobody has actually ever written before, and I think they're going to love it.

Okay, great.

Let me just, while we're here on Russia, tell me what you think about

the cyber war

between the United States and Russia and what came out in the New York Times.

I think this was a good thing that we're doing.

Actually,

no, I agree with you 100%.

And, you know, what we see is only the tip of the iceberg out there.

So this was probably meant to be a very obvious shot across their bow.

And they wouldn't do that if there wasn't something in the background that they were concerned about.

So, we'd say, hey, don't mess with us because this is what's going to happen, sort of a thing.

So, I'm glad that we have the capability and that we're, you know, flexing our muscles a little bit just to let the Russians know, don't think about messing with our power grid or anything like that.

You're going to be in big trouble.

So,

do you know anything about the cyber warfare command

and how it's been given all of these new powers that were apparently slipped in?

I love this, slipped in on the defense bill, the last defense bill?

So I know a little bit about the organization, less about the defense bill.

We've been under a state of emergency that's been renewed.

You and I have talked about this every single year since 9-11.

So there's a lot of powers the government is granting.

It's granting itself through this kind of continuing ongoing resolution that it renews every 365 days.

So

my big thing is, you know, Frank Church in the 70s warned us that when the NSA turned its giant listening ears inward, that will have been a Rubicon that we can't cross back over.

And that's what happened after 9-11.

We got the, with the Patriot Act and collecting all the metadata and the NSA outgrowing Fort Meade, Maryland, and having to build the big server farms in

south of Salt Lake City in Utah.

Anytime the stories are about them spying or surveilling outside the United States, I'm a happy camper.

So, Brad, it's been a while since we've really talked.

What do you think the state of the Union is?

Well, I think we're really coxic, and I think we've become very tribal in how we approach our politics.

The rise of nationalism has been very concerning to me.

I grew up wondering how so much could happen.

Good and decent German people could be physically and intellectually intimidated into silence in the 1930s, and bad things could happen in that country.

I'm not saying we've got the rise of Nazism here, but we've got people who are piping up in the public square that never,

ever,

we never would have found that socially acceptable as a culture.

First Amendment rights, notwithstanding,

there's just, there's stuff, there are people that are empowered today to spew some absolutely vile stuff.

And I think this goes back to us, you know, we used to say, what will the neighbors think?

And now we don't even know the neighbors' names.

And I think it's a symptom of a much deeper sickness.

And by sickness, I mean kind of a wasting away of our culture and our unity as Americans.

We see ourselves in these silos, these subgroups, well before we see each other as fellow Americans.

And that's not good for a republic.

So

we're not only seeing people say crazy things, but we're at the same time seeing voices silenced.

And to me, that is just as concerning that

these organizations, they can do whatever they want because, after all, they're not part of the government.

The First Amendment applies really to the government.

We are seeing

an organization or several organizations that are getting so massive

that

you could lose freedom of speech and the Constitution would have nothing to say about it.

Yeah,

I've seen a lot of comparisons made to kind of the monopolies

of railroads and steel and all of those titans of industry.

And that argument is one that resonates to a certain degree with me.

We see people thrown off of Facebook, thrown off of Twitter, thrown off of YouTube.

We always said in this country that the answer to bad speech is not less speech, it's more speech.

It's a a competition of ideas and

whose ideas are better.

It concerns me that some people, again, this siloing, I am concerned that we have people who are only getting their news from Facebook.

And I don't care if you're left, right, or center, that's not a good idea to gather all your news from Facebook, regardless of what your politics are.

We've become lazy.

We've become spiritually lazy.

We've become civically lazy.

and we've become intellectually lazy in this country.

We have it better.

Jonah Goldberg's book, Suicide of the West, was so fantastic because he said, we're at the top of the mountain.

And if we're not careful, if you lean too far forward, too far back, too far left, too far right, you fall off the top of the mountain.

This is the best point in the history of the world to be alive, and we're in the greatest country to be alive in.

But if we aren't careful, we are going to lose it.

And so this laziness across those areas that I just explained really does concern me because we are not fighting enough for free speech.

Glenn,

I put a self-destruct program on my Twitter account.

My tweets don't last more than two weeks now because I don't want somebody bringing up a great joke I made after a back and forth with Pat or Stu on Twitter and dragging it up from five years ago and saying, hey, wait a second, this sounds terrible.

Well, in the context of five years ago, it was really funny because I'd been on the show with Glenn and we had joked about this and I made the joke on Twitter afterwards.

That kind of stuff, really as an author, someone who makes his living by expressing himself and with words, it freaks the hell out of me.

So, yesterday, I've been feeling this for a while,

that,

you know, we're living in a digital age, and

when you look at, like, for instance, the movies you buy, you don't actually buy them.

You're still renting them.

You're leasing them from Apple or anybody else because they only, they don't own the rights.

They lease the rights.

And so when Disney comes out with their own platform, most likely Disney's gonna say, okay,

you can only get our movies from our platform.

So, if you bought all those Disney movies digitally,

when that license expires with Disney, if Disney decides not to

continue the license with Apple, you lose all of that.

And

it is amazing to me how we could silence somebody

who has a lifetime of work, and all of their work could be gone almost overnight.

You could take back all of the books, unless they're in print.

You could take back all of the books.

You could take back all of their videos.

They're gone.

You could silence their voice and put them behind a wall.

Does this concern you at all, or is this just me being too paranoid?

No, no, listen, I agree 100%.

It's a push-pull, right?

Remember when you two had that album and everybody was forced to receive the album?

Yeah.

It's a two-way street, so stuff can be pushed on you and it can be removed.

You can have the version on your Kindle of a book replaced with an edited version.

So without your permission, they can do something like that via not just Kindle, but any EEE platform at all.

So when you're dealing with digital, listen, the smartest thing my wife ever did was she went out and bought all Mel Brooks' movies on DVD because we didn't want to lose them.

You know, there's movies

that I think are very funny that Mel Brooks did, that if you tried to do them today, you'd never be able to get them done.

In fact,

you know,

Mel Brooks would be the public pillory.

He'd be dragged to it.

So, yes, that is a concern.

The more we are reliant on digital, this is precisely why I don't do online banking.

I don't like the idea of somebody being able, and yeah, you have to give your permission to pay bills and all this kind of stuff.

I still do pay-per-checks.

It's just the way I am.

I just don't like surrendering everything to digital.

I think it comes with a lot of risk.

And you couple that with the story you opened up this segment with about the article in the New York Times about us

flexing our muscles with Russia in cyberspace, with threatening their grid system.

This is pretty serious, and the more reliant we are on digital,

the more susceptible we are to great havoc.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And I don't think that Russia is the

deterred with mutually assured destruction.

But places like Iran

and North Korea, they will not be deterred by mutually assured destruction.

Do you agree with that?

Correct.

They won't.

And you also need to keep in mind with Russia that they've got a very

active propaganda outlet, Russia Today, where they are pushing stories about 5G causing cancer because the U.S.

is so far behind in that technology and Russia is trying to rush their own version of it ahead.

So there's a lot happening with Russia beyond just what they could do electronically from kind of a cyber warfare standpoint.

They're also running a very active cyber warfare propaganda campaign.

I don't know if you've noticed this, but all of the stuff that has come out recently about deep fakes, it's all coming from the Samsung Center in Moscow.

And that concerns me that

the Samsung Center in Moscow is the one leading the way on this,

because you know that the Russians will use that.

All right, back with Brad Thor here in just a second.

I want to get his list of things that he thinks we should preserve, books that thinks we should have in paper form.

What I'm doing is I'm putting a whole list together and I ask for your help.

Go to glennbeck.com/slash save books

and give me the list of what you think is important culturally, is important to show the progress and the bad side of America.

What would you want if you needed a library that said, this is what the West was.

This is how it worked, and this is its faults.

This is how you would restart it.

Go to Glennbeck.com slash save books.

All right, we are back with Brad Thor.

So yesterday

we asked people and we got a lot of responses online.

Just go to Glennbeck.com/slash save books.

We got a lot of things, a lot of repeats.

Animal Farm Fahrenheit 451,

The Bible of Mice and Men, Grapes of Wrath, Brave New World, a lot of Calvin and Hobbes,

believe it or not.

I don't know about that.

But I wanted to get...

Brad Thor on because I wanted to get his list, and then I want to ask him

another question about books we should preserve.

But first, let's get your list, Brad.

All right.

So, my list, I kind of have it broken into groups.

It would be the Bible,

the Summa Theological by St.

Thomas Aquinas, the Federalist Papers, complete with the founding documents, the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, the Road to Serfdom, the Gulag Archipelago, and Cinderella's story, My Life in Golf by Bill Murray.

I, ha, the Bill Murray one took me by surprise.

So, Brad, I think actually it's important to preserve culture as well,

both good and bad, to show, you know, where we were as a people.

Brad,

I was thinking about on my list putting perhaps you or Tom Clancy or some Vince Flynn

onto my list because

you are not only part of the culture, but you have, there's so much truth in the books that you guys write.

It has to make sense and it has to be based in fact.

Otherwise, you guys couldn't sell a book.

If you were going to preserve the phrase,

you called it faction, Glenn.

You said, you know, you don't know where the facts end and the fiction begins.

That's your phrase.

I mean, I've done thrillers about the Federal Reserve, about the threat of too much technology.

I mean, with each book I do, my job is to give people a white-knuckle thrill ride, a fun, you know, take it to the beach, take it to the lake kind of book.

But when you close it, you're smarter about the threats the country faces and what your role is as a citizen.

So, I mean, I'm thrilled that you would put me in that group with Vince and with Clancy, but I think that's probably not a bad idea if you want to get a current snapshot of the threats the country faces.

Well,

I did include Michael Crichton's Sum of All Fears.

I think that's, isn't that it?

Sum of all fears about

the climate of fear, global warming.

What is it?

Climate of of fear.

Climate of fear.

Climate of fear.

Climate of fear.

Climate of fear.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So climate of fear, which was

fantastic on its truth.

It tells the story of what's happening with global warming.

He started to write it as a pro-global warming thing.

He got into the facts and he realized this is hogwash.

So he wrote it all.

And then the last part of the book is all about here are the facts.

Here's everything that I said in this book.

It is happening right now.

And I think that's a really important thing, especially when it comes to

global warming.

Listen, there's a reason they come for the academics, the journalists, and the authors first, right?

When they want to silence truth.

Those tend to be the three groups of people whose job it is to get the word out there.

We can talk about journalism today and whether they're really living up to that standard.

But

I think that if you really want to see what's happening in a society at any given point in time, look at what's being written.

Look at the written word.

If you had to save one Clancy book and one Thor book, what would it be?

If you had to save one Clancy book and one Thor book,

I think the hunt for Lassover is always going to be the best.

Yeah.

I just think that we're not learning anything about the Soviet era anymore, and it would be

culturally important and important globally as well to remember that that and to remember what the Cold War felt like.

How about a Thor book?

Well, so if I had to pick a Thor book,

I'd probably, considering everything that we're going under, we're dealing with right now, it would be my book Blacklist.

Blacklist.

Blacklist, which had to do with total surveillance of the population, what you and I talked about earlier, the warning from Frank Church in the 70s that if the NSA ever turned its giant listening ears inward on the U.S., we would have crossed the Rubicon.

And that's, I actually opened Blacklist, my thriller Blacklist, with Frank Church, with a direct quote from him on the Today Show, talking about his hearings and what he learned about the NSA.

That was one of my favorite books of yours, and I can't wait to read Backlash.

It comes out.

Backlash comes out next week, next Tuesday.

Brad, I'm sure we'll talk to you again, hopefully, next week when that book comes out.

You can order it now in advance, Brad Thor and Backlash.

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