Lucky In The Lotto of Life? | Guests: Lara Logan & Susan Crockford | 6/5/19

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Because he had picked his lottery numbers by using a fortune cookie.

Well, it turns out he won a little more.

Details on him in one minute.

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So just leading the life of luxury, the swinging bachelor.

I'm on

my way as a swinging bachelor who is married, on my way driving to the

lottery office to pick up my $50,000 check.

Now, this is what this guy in North Carolina Carolina was doing.

He said

he went to play Powerball

and his granddaughter had given him a fortune cookie and on the bottom of the fortune cookie were numbers.

So he decided, you know what?

I'm going to play those numbers.

And so he did.

Somehow or another,

when he was on his way to pick up what he thought was $50,000, it turns out it was a little more.

And as he's looking at the numbers, now he doesn't watch watch TV, he says, so he doesn't pay attention to any of this.

And he saw,

I guess as he was driving,

he saw

the numbers for the Powerball.

And he realizes, I think I won more.

Now, he didn't know how much.

He had no idea.

He just played Powerball.

He didn't know what the jackpot was, nothing.

His granddaughter had just given him some numbers, so he just played it.

So he's on the way, and he calls up the office and he's like, you know what?

I think I have all of the numbers.

I was coming in to pick up 50,000.

I think it might be more.

I think I have all of the numbers.

And they said,

yeah,

you do.

And he said, wow, how much is it worth?

How much is it worth?

They said, well, more than 50,000.

It's 344 million.

Quote, he said, quote,

dang, I got them all?

I love that.

He said he called his he called his wife and said, you ain't gonna believe this, but I got it all.

Now he says he hopes that the windfalls don't change him.

He's gonna give a million dollars to his brother.

I mean, how about something for granddaughter?

I mean, she was the one that brought you the cookie.

A million dollars to his brother to make good on a deal apparently they made, donate to charities, yada, yada, yada.

He took the lump sum of $223 million.

He said, I'm still going to wear my jeans, just maybe I'll wear some newer ones.

It's fantastic.

I don't understand, though.

If you win $50,000, I think that, does that mean you've won, you've hit five or six,

I don't know how many numbers you've hit, but you've hit a lot of the numbers, right?

Aren't you sitting there staring at that thing a hundred times when you've hit for $50,000 to check it and you miss the fact that you won $300 million?

Well, maybe it was the Powerball number that he didn't check because he's not a lotto player.

He wasn't playing it for the Powerball.

He just probably went into a convenience store and put those numbers in and just saw, oh, wow, I got the five right.

And I don't know.

I don't know how that happens.

Yeah, but

he wasn't playing it.

you know, to win the $344 million.

He had no idea how much it was worth.

That's incredible.

That's a good debt.

It's the type of thing.

If I'm working at the lottery,

you know, the headquarters, and someone calls me and says, I think I won $50,000, but I'm looking at the numbers, I think I have them all.

What I say is, come directly to my desk, and I will give you the $50,000 in exchange for the ticket.

And then you need to leave immediately.

Just ask for me.

Yes.

Don't go to someone else because they might do something.

You don't know what's going to happen.

You're very trucky.

You're sketchy around here.

And then you take the 50, you give them 50 grand somehow.

I might give them 51.

Yeah, we're giving you a tip.

Yeah, 50,000.

I just want you you to know you're getting a great deal here.

And he walks out, you turn it in, 344 mil.

Yeah.

That's the way to play that.

I think I'd still take the lump sum because the officials might be coming to look for me.

So I'd take the lump sum.

And when I say I, it would be somebody else not related to me that would show up for the check.

I'm just saying.

Why do we sit here every time and talk about it as if it's 344 million when it's really 223 million?

Well, it's not even, wait, wait, wait.

It's not even that.

I can take the 344 over 20 years or whatever.

Right.

It's just a silly, you know, like, yeah, well, we'll give you,

first of all, almost everyone takes the lump sum, which there's some question about whether that's a good idea for some people.

I think most people.

Yeah, I mean,

there's been some, because it's always been statistically you should take the 300 or the 223 million because it pays off in the long term.

But they see the way that people use it, and it's like, maybe you should be guaranteed a payment next year.

Maybe that's a good thing.

In 19 years, there's still a payment coming in.

I think that's, there's a question about that one.

I think if I believed in, if I believed that money and these, and these states and lotteries and everything else would actually stand,

then I probably would take it overtime.

It would be stupid to do it, but I would probably take it overtime because I'd be like, I don't know.

I mean, I want something left for my kids.

I mean, you know, to $50 million,

I could see myself going, what?

It's only $50 million,

you know.

five times, six times.

Right.

Someone's going to scam you into a real estate investment that doesn't exist.

Right.

You know,

but I mean, I just, they always say this $344 million.

It's like, let's be honest about it.

It's $223 million.

Well, if you want to take it over a very long period of time, you'll get interest, essentially.

Right?

But again, you have to also factor in inflation and all those other things.

A payment in 20 years is a lot different than a payment today.

Well, but let's be real.

I mean, why do we say it's $223 million when it's actually about $112 million?

That's true.

Where does he live again?

He lives in North Carolina.

Yeah, that's not.

You're going to lose a lot.

You're going to lose.

You lose about half.

About 40%.

Yeah, at the end of the day, you're going to lose around half of it, right?

And then, of course, every time you spend it, you lose more.

And this is a depressing story.

It is.

Yes.

We ruined it.

We had a happy grandfather who had retired.

This guy's life is over, is what I'm saying.

Boy, it'd hate to be you, Jack.

I hope you can buy a nice coffin with it.

oh I'm sorry I tried to start look at he wrecked it okay let me try this let me try this here's a guy that should not win the lottery Tracy Morgan

comedian yes okay okay

who would have thunk that Tracy Morgan would go out and buy a new Bugatti okay but he bought a new Bugatti and it was two million dollars and he bought it at Bugatti in Manhattan now

here's your first time shopping around for the the lower price Bugatti, apparently.

Now, here's the thing.

If you're buying a Bugatti,

don't live in Manhattan.

What are you going to do?

You're going to drive it three and a half miles an hour?

Right.

And stop and go traffic with giant potholes and people, you know, hitting, you know, in the, hey, back up.

Buy the other right away here.

I mean, it's not a pleasant place to be with any car.

It sucks to drive there anyway.

Yeah.

Bugatti, I can't imagine, especially with that, like that gigantic engine.

We're talking a thousand horsepower and that thing trying to do a manual shift going around, you know, 44th Street.

Like, that's not

ridiculous.

It's just ridiculous.

Okay, so

he

was driving his car for about 10 minutes in Manhattan.

He just closed your eyes because you know what's coming.

What did he do?

10 minutes, nothing.

A woman in a late model Honda CR-V tried to make a right turn from the left lane and

crashed into his Bugatti and scraped it and graded against the entire side.

Okay.

He gets out of the car and he's like, what

were you thinking?

She was like,

I don't know.

He's like,

this is, I've had this car for 10

minutes

and it's a Bugatti.

Oh, I'm sorry.

It looks pretty.

What does that mean, a a Bugatti?

It's a $2 million

car.

Oh, my gosh.

So he literally had it for about 30 minutes from the time he drove off the lot and signed the deal, 30 minutes total before she took and just destroyed his Bugatti.

She's got insurance, though, right?

I mean, she's got liability insurance, surely, that will cover.

I'm sure that will cover the $1.89 million car.

Oh, God.

$1.

Oh, no, it's a convertible.

So

it's not only

used,

so you got to expect some dings.

It's used, so that's why it was $1.8 million.

This was cheap for the Bugatti because it's a convertible, which apparently is very rare.

Very rare, right?

And so he's driving it for the first 10 minutes.

I think that's worse than the worst lottery winner.

I mean, because that just shows how stupid you are.

Don't buy a Bugatti in Manhattan.

Especially if you're Tracy Morgan, who should stay out of all automobiles, right?

Like he was the guy who he almost died in a massive car crash.

Like his, why are you even get it?

You should live in this.

I don't remember that.

Oh my, yeah, that's his whole, that's the, you know, he was, you know, because he did Saturday Night Live and he was on 30 Rock, right?

Yeah.

He had like, you know, a bunch of stuff and he almost got killed.

It was in, I think, 2014-ish.

Oh, wow.

And he was almost killed in a giant wreck.

It was on the New Jersey Turnpike.

And get out of that area.

Yeah, get leave.

Get out of that area.

So here's an idea.

Iowa.

Okay.

Kansas.

Here's an idea.

Subways.

If you're going to live there, take a subway.

It's a scary thing when the subway is the safe alternative.

I'm telling you,

we lived in New York for a while.

The last thing you want is a nice car.

What you do is you just go buy a junker because I literally saw, I literally saw a car take the bumper the front bumper off of a taxi cab

at about

65 miles an hour on

i think it was i think it was like 42nd street and it's just bare it was like two o'clock in the morning and i'm walking down the street and i see this car there's nothing it's all green lights and i see this this uh this car it was actually the reverse.

It was a car and a taxi cab came up behind it.

And this car was just, you know, an out-of-town person like, I don't know, 42nd Street.

I'm trying to find 41st.

Where is that?

Do I take a left?

And so it's just puttering down the street.

And this cab comes and it just clips it.

It's got to be going 60, 70 miles an hour.

And it just clips the front of this car.

And the bumpers catch on each other.

And it pulls the bumper off the other car.

And so now the bumper is just kind of like spinning in the middle of the road.

The guy in the cab didn't even tap on his brakes.

That's Manhattan, okay?

You buy a crappy car and you park it.

And when you come back and it's like burned to the ground and everything is gone, you're like, huh.

And you move on.

Right, exactly.

You just move on.

You go to walk down the street in New York, you'll see those little rubber-like things that you put in your trunk and they hang over your bumper because your bumper gets hit randomly so often that people just protect when they park, they put a little piece of rubber just hanging over there so hopefully the car bounces off and

you need nerf, you just need a nerf car.

Yeah, you know, just take a piece of crap and then take a bunch of nerf footballs and just tape them all around your car.

And you have a chance that when you get out of New York, you still have a really crappy car

with tape marks where you had all that.

And that's good.

That's a good way to get out of New York with your car.

Bugatti.

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This is the Glenn Beck program.

I'm really looking forward to talking to Laura Logan.

Yeah, I'll really like her.

She's saying some pretty interesting things.

I mean, you know, this is a

highly respected journalist who 60 minutes.

60 minutes and all sorts of stuff.

And lately has been saying some things a little critical of the world of journalism to the point to where

it's sad.

It's really sad that she looks almost crazy for saying it only because you're looking at her, going, You're not going to survive.

How are you going to survive?

You know,

she is so blunt and so straightforward

and exactly the kind of journalist all journalists should be, but that is so rare now, it makes it, she looks like a solar flare, you know?

Yeah.

Just looks like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's happening over there?

And all she's saying is, I don't know, maybe we should check the facts.

Maybe not be biased against one of the parties.

Or at least admit our bias.

Yeah.

Well, she just did some reporting on the border and was showing that maybe things are more more of a crisis than the rest of the media seems to think that they are.

I can't wait to talk to her about that.

Yeah, because she was there.

I think

she was working with Sherry.

She did some reporting for Cheryl Atkinson's show and

went into real depth on the border and what was going on down there.

And it's of course a totally different picture than what everyone else is showing.

Isn't it amazing that they're two women, both I think, from CBS?

That's right.

Yeah, Cheryl was from CBS too, wasn't she?

Yeah.

And they were both really credible national reporters

international.

And still are.

But no, I mean for CBS, though.

And she was on 60 Minutes.

Laura was on 60 Minutes, which, you know, that was the pinnacle.

You got to 60 Minutes.

You were certainly credible.

Or Oprah Infrey.

She was CBS News's chief foreign affairs correspondent for 13 years.

Wow.

That's not.

And look how she's being treated now.

Yeah.

Well, yeah.

You know, this is what happens when you break, when you break.

I mean, you know, she's always been a good reporter, though.

I mean, it's not like

anything is new.

Look at this.

I mean, looking at

this list of awards, it's like half a page.

You know,

she was

very highly respected,

and I think still is, but she's just now, now that she's taking on her industry, you know that support is going to erode quickly, right?

You're just not supposed to say things.

It's like that, you know, every media source would be critical of the thin blue line, right?

Like that, you're not supposed to say, you're not supposed to talk about that.

Well, this is the same thing that journalists have, right?

They all close ranks.

I mean, the fact that you saw them closing ranks around this ridiculous Daily Beast report the other day where they came out and they were like, hey, this day laborer from New York City, let's ruin his life.

Because he posted the Nancy Pelosi slightly slowed down video.

And they went and did an expose on his life and showed his picture and said all the jobs he's had and

highlighted his

relationship troubles and his criminal brushes with the law, and on and on and on and on, just trying to destroy this guy's life at any cost.

You know, look, I'm sure, you know, I don't know, other than what I read in the report, I don't know anything about the guy, but he does not seem like a power player in the United States.

And the fact that he posted a video slightly critical or mocking of Nancy Pelosi, one of the most powerful people in the world.

And then he's the one getting the expose about him.

Not Nancy.

Nancy, no one, no one created, crazy No one questions anything she does just is she going to impeachment fast enough is about the hardest question she's ever received and Instead they go and they do this expose of this poor guy who's a day laborer in New York City and again imagine the reverse an African-American day laborer here that the left can go after imagine if conservative some conservative media source was outing African-Americans who are powerless in our society what you know then we get plenty of reporting on it you're not supposed to do that.

I mean, and reporters rallied around the Daily Beast guy saying, oh, this is absolutely valuable information about this guy because we might be able to hire him for $8 an hour next week.

It's like,

it's ridiculous.

So you're not supposed to do this, and Lara's doing it.

And she will be joining us in about 30 minutes.

Lara Logan on the program.

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Hello, Pat.

Hello, Glenn.

So

you are unleashed about?

Well, I was kind of interested in the fact that Lou Dobbs is calling out Republicans for being traitors because they're not supporting Donald Trump's tariffs.

And I thought, when, since when are Republicans traitors for being free trade people?

What time did that monologue happen?

You know, they're cowards and traitors, and they are committing suicide and bringing down the country with them.

I mean, I will say that Lou Dobbs has always been a tariff guy from back in the day.

I mean, he was never been a conservative,

but he's always been a big tariff guy going back to his years at CNN.

He knows for a fact that Republicans have not been terrified.

Of course.

How do you not at least include that in the analysis?

He doesn't.

He doesn't.

He doesn't bake that into anything.

It's been the exact opposite position of every one of these people that's been elected for the past 50 years.

And, you know, of course, obviously the pro-union left has been the ones asking for tariffs all this time.

So they're talking, they say now the

tariffs as requested by Trump, if implemented, and again, we hope this is a which ones?

The Mexican ones?

The Mexican ones, just the Mexican ones, if implemented.

And we hope it's a negotiation.

We know how this stuff works because, you know, Trump threatens these things, and hopefully they don't come to pass.

But if they do, it would be the largest tax increase in 35 years.

Wow.

Really?

That's a big number.

Yeah, it is.

Now, of course, that's on top of other tariffs.

In addition, it's on top of a big tax cut, right?

So it doesn't mean that when he started to when we would be here would be the biggest tax increase.

But from where we are right now to the end of these Mexican tariffs would be the biggest tax increase in 35 years.

And I just don't, I don't know why, you know, again, like this is, I know something he believes and it's something that conservatives have disagreed with the entire time I've been alive.

But

until now.

Until now.

That they have all fallen apart.

I mean, the arguments have completely fallen apart.

We won that one.

We won that one.

Even the Democrats were against tariffs.

It was old think.

And,

you know,

I'm happy to see.

First of all, aren't tariffs something that the president needs the Senate for?

No, I mean, tariffs, so he's going to do it.

The way he's going to do this is interesting.

And another reason why it's going to be a problem.

He's basically going to have to do another emergency declaration to get the tariffs through.

Now, we know we had an issue with the last one, and a lot of our listeners did as well, and that, like, we really think the border is a big deal.

We really want the wall, but, like, is this the right way to do it?

If you remember, a bunch of Republicans voted against him on that, just not enough to get to override the veto.

Here, you have a serious issue where apparently in the meeting, there were

no senators on Trump's side in the meeting when it came to the tariffs.

And this is something that should go through Congress, but he's trying to circumvent that process again.

Well, he might, I mean, sort of, yeah.

I mean, because again, like, trade authority in the Constitution is Congress.

It's supposed to be through Congress.

Congress gave a lot of this authority to the president.

However, the president has to justify it.

So to justify it, his approach here is going to likely be, and we don't know for sure, he hasn't released this certainty, but this is what the White House sources are saying, is that he would have to go through another emergency declaration, which would either be amending the one that already exists or creating a brand new emergency declaration.

So, again, the Congress would have a chance to override it.

There is no evidence that Republicans would stand up to him to the numbers to get to 67 votes.

And this also includes the House would have to also get to two-thirds.

There's no evidence on any issue

that they would stand up to Trump on that.

So, I mean, like,

most of this is them just talking a big game.

They want to say they're trying to hopefully influence Trump before these things go into effect.

Maybe they can move him.

Maybe they can delay them.

These are the games that they play.

In reality, is the Republican Congress going to overturn a veto from Donald Trump on anything?

I think the answer to that is no.

I don't, especially no.

They all talk a big game, but they're not going to do that.

And, like, you know, a lot of the stuff they shouldn't be overturning.

Trump's done a lot of really good things.

This one, in particular, though, has been against the philosophy of the party for at least 50 years.

So

the problem is, is that

Donald Trump is under such attack right now uh and has been the whole time that anything that even sounds like you're against him it you're immediately tossed to the side yeah that's true there's you know I came out for Justin Amash just just to say I think he's a good guy and I think he believes in the Constitution

I'm against impeachment and what he said about impeachment and I'm against him running in 2020 that doesn't seem to matter not to Breitbart or anybody else.

They're just saying, oh, Glenn Beck wants impeachment.

No, no.

Are you on the Trump train or

not?

All we're saying, maybe I'm not on anybody's train.

I'm not on anybody's train.

Justin Amash is a solid conservative.

He's a solid conservative.

He has his problems.

He has some things that I disagree with.

You know, when it comes to Israel, et cetera, et cetera, I disagree with those things, but I'm fine with that.

We should disagree with things.

I mean, we can't, you'll never be in lockstep with everybody.

But that doesn't mean.

But he's got 100% rating rating from Freedom Works.

Yeah.

100%.

I know.

I know.

I know.

Yeah.

So to throw, we can't throw people away like this.

We can't throw people away.

We're eating our own, and we're seeing this happen now.

Do you see how they are just coming after Joe Biden?

Oh, my God.

Yeah, today.

Oh, there's a bunch of new stories about it.

Plagiarism, and he's lying about the civil rights marching.

He is.

All of that.

There was the editorial that came out about how, you know, we need a JFK.

We need a younger guy with vision.

This is, we don't need another Hillary Clinton.

I mean, they are coming after him.

They also dug up when he was 29 years old and running that he used all these attacks against

how old he was.

Yeah.

Like, you know, they're like, my opponent was fighting polio.

I'm fighting, you know, like, you know,

totally ridiculous.

And he wound up winning the race by, I think, 3,000 votes.

It was a very close race.

But yeah, they, I mean, look, you expect a field of 24.

They realize he's ahead.

The latest polls have his lead shrinking a little bit, so it'll be interesting to see if any of this stuff is.

22-18 is the last one I've seen.

He's still a nice big.

14 points.

It's his to lose, right?

Yes.

If he was a great candidate,

which he's not.

He's a terrible candidate.

And he loses, you know, I mean, he's lost every time he's tried to run for president and really been buried the other two times.

If he has a chance, I mean, this is his chance to win.

He walks in here with a massive lead.

He's got a field of 24 people, 17 of which are at 0 or 1%.

So, I mean, there is not a lot, like the field feels really big, but there's not a lot of competitors there.

Even when he came out for their pet project, the climate change stuff yesterday, they bashed him on that because that was plagiarized.

He didn't give credit to the person who wrote that bill.

Did AOC have to put up with that when she released Greenwich?

No, but they don't believe him on that.

They want a hardcore socialist.

Yeah, they do.

Did you see what AOC said yesterday?

About

your right to a profit?

Yeah.

That it's not a right before your privilege of profit comes the right to everyone having a decent house.

She's frightening.

She's terrifying.

But the people, you know, behind her are the same people behind Bernie Sanders, and they're the same people behind, you know, pretty much all of them,

except for Joe Biden.

And Biden, I read, or read a very sad article the other day about how the relationship between Biden and Obama and that, like, Obama apparently, you know, encouraged him pretty strongly not to run in 2016 because they, you know, it was Hillary's thing, and she's the one that's going to do this, and blah, blah, blah.

So their team really came at him.

And, of course, he was going through the death of his son.

So So he found a way to not run essentially.

And of course, like, you know, and regretted it.

Yeah, who knows what would have happened, obviously.

Yeah.

Now

there's been these conversations.

You know, you have people, a lot of the Obama people have moved on to other campaigns.

They're working for other candidates.

Obama is not coming out and

endorsing anyone.

He's just kind of hanging back.

And he's helped.

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And this is a big thing.

He did give the 2012 email list to Joe Biden, which is huge.

I mean, as far as fundraising and everything else.

So it's not like there's been no cooperation, but like there's just.

No, but he's not.

He's not.

He's not supporting him.

Yeah, it's sad.

Other than the email list.

And Obama can't.

Obama is looked at as...

Well, I don't think he wants to either.

I don't think so either.

But he's looked at on the left as almost a Glenn Beck now.

He is not fashionable with them at all.

He is not the guy who they look at him as like, you were kind of a traitor.

Like, I use yourself as someone who's unfashionable.

No, but I mean, look, Biden's still winning the primary.

So, I mean,

it's not that unfashionable.

But did you see what?

No, no, no, I'm saying, Barack Obama, that Barack Obama is out of fashion with the left.

He's no lawyer.

Because he's not a socialist.

Although, I think

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He had the opportunity.

He wasn't a revolutionary.

He's got a big, I mean, his, you think about what is picking a vice president?

It is a one-person presidential election.

Barack Obama got to select essentially his successor, right?

If something happens to him, who's the one person in the United States I want to be president?

He picked Joe Biden.

Now he's not endorsing Joe Biden.

Like, it is amazing, right?

And do you guys see when they asked him about that, when they asked Biden, why isn't Barack Obama endorsing you?

I didn't want him to.

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Offer.

He didn't want to endorse me.

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Look, I want to give the rest of of these kids a fighting chance, and that would just make it too unfair.

That's ridiculous.

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And it is ridiculous from Obama.

Obama should be endorsing him.

He told us, he stood in front of the American people and said, hey,

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No, no, not that.

Oh, no, you cannot keep your doctor.

You can keep Joe Biden.

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Laura,

nice to meet you and nice to have you on the program.

Well, thank you for having me.

I appreciate it.

Let's get right into what you're doing recently, and then I'd like to kind of open it up to more broad on

the media and what to expect and

what we can do to change things.

But you've been down on our border.

And

strangely, you have a different report than what the mainstream media is giving everyone.

Well, you know, to be honest, I don't watch what the mainstream media is giving everybody, especially when I'm working, right?

Because my job is, well, I'm focused on doing my job.

I'm not too worried about what other people are doing.

And a wise old correspondent told me many years ago that he, you know, every day he goes out and he does his best and he doesn't worry about his competition.

And some days he's the best and some days he's not.

So

but it's not surprising to me that it's different because I know where I go, people all the time along the border in all different capacities keep saying nobody is telling our story.

Nobody is is talking about this.

Nobody's telling the truth.

It's not that people are lying about the border.

border, it's not that there's, it's just that there's more than one story.

The only story is not simply a story of, you know, of

poor people who want to move to the United States to improve their lives.

That is one part of the story, and it's a very important part of the story.

And I can honestly tell you, I've had moments where, you know, I've been climbing into my,

my basically my pretty crappy bed in my pretty crappy hotel at night.

And I've just about wanted to cry thinking about the people who don't don't even know you know the people I've seen with their children and all the rest of it I mean I've got a big heart and that breaks my heart but it's only one part of the story so you know my job as a reporter has always been to understand the full context and cover as much of the story as I can and that's all I'm trying to do So

there are the sins of omission, and I think that's what people are committing by saying that this is the only part of the story.

And you're right.

I've been down at at the border myself, and

we raised money to bring food and comfort down to some of the children that were there

during the Obama administration.

I tried to get the media to pay attention to the cases.

Oh, you're not allowed to talk about that, Jenny.

I know, I know, I know.

But it doesn't happen, and it shows this real bias.

And I don't want to dwell on this one.

I've got one word for you.

I've got one word for you.

I have actually spoken to people down there right across law enforcement and Border Patrol who actually talk about when

in a certain point in the Obama administration when they no longer wanted to deal with the deporter-in-chief title and the problem of all the children that they had in detention, basically in prison.

Some people like so-called act cages.

What did they do?

Actually, Border Patrol agents then had orders where they would have to intercept people who they found coming over the border in certain parts and they would have to escort them back down to the border and send them back.

Don't apprehend them.

Don't create a statistic.

Don't create a problem for us.

Let's just push you over the border then and pretend that this is not happening.

I can't say how widespread that was.

I can't say that it was everywhere, but I can tell you that it did happen and more than once.

So, what is it that

people are saying, nobody's telling this story?

What are the important stories that we're not hearing?

Well, first and foremost,

what people just leave out of the narrative is that this is almost like a theater.

It's a performance, not for the people who are living it, because

they are like their pawns.

It's a theater for the cartels.

Yes, they make an enormous amount of money out of all the people that cross because they take most of the smuggling fees.

They don't run the smuggling operations.

They're way too smart for that.

They are professional human smuggling operations, human trafficking organizations that are global who do the smuggling for them but they pay most

an enormous amount of what they earn they pay that to the cartels the cartels decide the mexican cartels decide who crosses where they cross when they cross and so if you imagine you're a pilot and you can see the whole border from the air that's really how the cartels operate you know it's divided up into the three main cartels now the Sinaloa cartel the Gulf cartel and what used to be called the Zetas.

That's now Cartel de Nostre, del Nostre, but those are the three main cartels that control the traffic.

And the reason you have people coming in all these difficult places, one of the reasons, a big reason, is that the cartels know if they split the resources of border patrol, if you've got a group of five people or a group of ten people and they all run in different directions, how many agents does it now take to stop them?

You know, so that's exactly what they're doing.

They're splitting the resources.

Pilots have described to me, for example, in parts of the border, seeing groups of anywhere between 50 and 200 crossing at exactly the

same time at the crossing points sort of, you know, 100 yards from each other.

Right?

So imagine in five different places separated by 100 yards, and you have hundreds of people.

So what does that do?

In one tiny little, tiny little town on the border in Texas, on the Rio Grande Valley.

They have border patrol facilities that are built to house a maximum of 116 people.

Last weekend, they had over 1,100.

Over 1,100 in one weekend, and they have people every single day.

And that's just one weekend.

This has been going on for months and months and months.

So in these places where people get, you know,

People get told all the time, Texans, for example, Texans are a bunch of racist rednecks, right?

And Texas don't care about people.

Look, they don't recognize the children of illegal immigrants born in this country look at all the evil things people in Texas do they put illegal immigrants under bridges in terrible weather to suffer well literally you've got border patrol agents looking at at me with desperation saying we don't know where else to put people you've got churches in El Paso who the NGOs have run out of capacity right the NGOs that come from New York and other parts of the country that like to do interviews in the paper sometimes about everything they're doing down on the border, except they've run out of capacity.

And it's the local people in many of these places who are trying to bear, you know, to help in some ways.

And the other, you know, there's another really important thing that

gets left out of the narrative, which

is that the large majority of Border Patrol agents are Hispanic Americans or Mexican Americans or whatever you want to call them.

They're not, you know, it's not just these evil white men who are trying to stop people coming into this country.

It's not that at all.

In fact, it's much more complex.

And in some of these towns, the vast majority of the people who live there are Hispanic American.

And,

you know, Texas itself has a history that's very much wrapped up.

in Mexico.

And the first president of Texas was Mexican.

And when you look at the history here, these two people,

I'm not painting a picture of Nirvana.

There's always issues between people, but it's very different to what people say it is from a distance.

The reality is not much like that at all.

And

I have yet to meet anyone who wants these people to suffer or who is deliberately cruel to people.

And, you know, my experience is limited to my experience, you know.

But

I will tell you this, when you say these people are pawns, they are.

They're being, I feel horrible for them because if, in, in, in some cases, not all cases, but in many cases, I think if I were on the other side of the border and I saw that America really didn't care about its borders and they were going to give away free citizenship and I could get my family there and my family doesn't, we're living in a town that maybe has violence but doesn't have any real chance for my kids.

You damn right I'd be over here.

I would absolutely do it because I would think that America didn't really care and they were offering citizenship.

So take that chance for my children to be able to have a better life.

That

they are, those people are being preyed on by all these different groups that have all different agendas, including the drug cartels that are holding back some family members and saying, look, we're going to sell you this and we'll bring them over.

You do us a favor, we'll do you a favor, and then we'll send your relative over.

And I mean, we're we're importing people and enslaving people to some of these drug cartels.

Oh, no, we're doing the bidding of the drug cartels, yes, whether wittingly or unwittingly, that's happening.

And I can tell you, I can add to what you're saying, Glenn.

How about if you were watching or listening to commercials on the radio, which tell you, go to America, you're going to get a house, you're going to get land, you're going to get a job, you're going to get this or that.

And then add to that the fact that, you know, I mean,

one of my most trusted, most, the person that I respect most in the world, my producer, Max McClellan, he went and did a story in a series of reports in Honduras.

He was actually with a family when they said goodbye to their 15-year-old daughter and sent her to a better life in America.

And you can imagine, right?

I mean, he's a dad.

He's got a daughter.

I have two daughters and a son.

I mean, what could be more heartbreaking than that?

I mean, it's really painful for me to even imagine being in that situation.

But they don't even know if that daughter is actually going to a real job in America.

There's so much sex trafficking.

And you imagine sending your 15-year-old daughter into...

Nobody does that unless they are absolutely desperate or they have no other options, right?

Nobody, nobody.

I mean, the family, you know, the mother was sobbing, the father was crying, the daughter was crying.

You can imagine.

That's a very painful thing.

But her chance, she has a significant chance of being raped along the way.

When people come from Latin America, they get to the first stash house inside of Mexico.

People get raped at the stash houses.

And then there's another stash house.

You know, there's other stash houses all along the way, but right on the Mexican side, close to the border.

And then more stash houses when you cross the border.

And I've you know, I've been looking at doing stories on this.

We have reports of different people who get raped at at every one of those locations along the way.

And then, you know, but we still we're still trying to find someone who has been through that to talk about it because these things are very difficult to cover and also because,

you know, it's very easy to tear these stories apart.

This is, here, I have one for you.

This is the only time in my career as a journalist, a professional, where I have looked at

the statistics of rape and sexual abuse, right?

Trying to figure out, okay,

how prevalent is this?

What exactly are the facts?

What is the chance when you get on that journey that this is going to happen to you how bad is it truly right and in this case

this is one case where the media by and large says oh you can't prove that this is happening oh you know yes there was this MSF Médecin San Francisco the NGO they did a big study on it and they found that you know at least 30% of of the women making this journey get raped or sexually assaulted.

But what do you have many journalists turning around and saying then?

Well, they took a sample of people on their way to the U.S.

in Mexico.

They didn't, you know, take everybody and they didn't take everybody from every different country.

And so you get 15 reasons why the MSF statistic is not representative.

Well, you know, isn't the standard the way we normally in the media treat rape and sexual assault figures is we always say it's the most underreported crime, don't we?

Doesn't that sound familiar?

And it's just a small, I'm only making, it's a small irony that

I noticed when I was researching this story.

I thought, wow, all my professional life, you know, wherever I've been, people have said that there's, you know, if that's the official failure, you can bet it's something much more than that.

Yes.

Now here, you have people actually defending human traffickers, defending cartels, defending coyotes who rape people and saying, well, you know,

we can't trust that figure because it's not fully representative.

So, Laura,

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The Glenbeck program talking to Laura Logan.

And Laura has just been down on the border.

And you used the word irony a few minutes ago.

That's the irony of it.

And it feels wrong.

That word might have been right maybe 10 years ago.

Wow, how ironic.

Now

it's beyond irony.

I don't know how to describe it, but it is a real source of frustration and conflict, I think, with a lot of people because you can't truly expect me to believe you're this stupid that you don't see you're defending people who are crazy on the other side.

They're drug traffickers.

They're human traffickers.

You're hurting people by supporting this particular avenue.

How do you

why is this happening?

And how do you look at this?

Well, you know, the thing is,

I try as much as I talk about the things I know to also not guess and speculate about the things that to me are unknowable.

I mean, you're a talk show host, right?

So you can talk about those things.

But in my world,

I don't go on television and speculate, which makes me a rare breed.

I will say.

You're like two.

You're like two.

But I'm old school, Glenn.

And I think the really important important thing for me that I want people to understand is I didn't invent the model of what it is to be an honest, independent journalist.

I don't own it.

I'm not the only one.

What I am disappointed by is to see

the lack of critical thought and the lack of independence and the lack of honesty in so much of what is reported out there today.

What I can tell you in terms of why would people do this right now, well,

I mean, what I know as a fact fact is that when I look out there, I have looked at all the reporting, it's the same story over and over and over again.

And it's a very, like I said, it's an important story, but it's still the same story.

There's many other aspects of this that are not being covered.

If I can go down to the border and border patrol agents and churches and other people can tell me that they have to give young girls who they help, they have to give them codes.

so that when they get to where the human smugglers are taking them or where they're being sent by the traffickers,

that they can call in and use this code and people will know that they are in trouble, that they're being trafficked, that they're being sexually exploited, that they're being, you know, that they're being badly treated.

Hold on just a second, more with Lara Logan when we come back.

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with Cheryl Atkinson's group for the next three months, just covering the border and what's really going on in the border.

She's with us now to talk about different things.

And Laura, first, again, thank you for coming on the program.

I'm a big fan of yours and

have a great deal of respect for you on multiple levels.

The thing that you said a minute ago, you said,

you know, Glenn,

you're a radio guy.

You're a talk radio guy, so you can comment on these things.

I'm a journalist, and there's a difference.

That's one of the biggest problems with the media right now is I've never claimed to be a journalist.

don't, that's not what I do.

I try to be fair, but I'm an opinion guy.

And so I look at things and then people come to me for, what do you think it means?

That's different than a journalist.

And the journalists keep confusing that.

Now, with that said,

I do want to ask your opinion because I think you might have an interesting perspective.

You're from South Africa.

I'm sure you remember apartheid and on all of those.

I absolutely do.

Yeah.

Okay.

We,

and maybe it's just my naive, you know, American viewpoint, but I've never seen America like this before.

I don't remember the 1960s,

but I've never seen America like this before.

And we are dividing ourselves into little teeny camps, and

it feels like we are headed for real trouble.

Do you see anything that

from your South African background that we Americans might be missing on like, hey, don't do this?

Well, the first thing that I would say, Glenn, is, you know, I live in a small town in Texas and

I travel all over this country and I go to a lot of different places, sometimes big cities in California, sometimes small cities.

I mean, small towns in California.

And from California to Oklahoma to Seattle, Washington, you know, to anywhere.

And I'm not so sure that we really are that divided.

I look to the media and I look to the politicians and I look to the propagandists for pushing this narrative over and over and over again.

And, you know, there's something that I've seen happen all over the world.

Look at Syria, for example.

When Assad first started slaughtering his own people, he said he was fighting terrorists.

Today, and for a long time now, he has been fighting terrorists, right?

Because they were smart enough.

They knew what would happen when they did what what they did.

They knew that there are terrorist groups right in that region and within their own country who would rise up and exploit that situation.

And

now he's telling the truth, except it's not the whole truth.

And I feel that way about where we are.

This is my personal opinion.

This is not my observations.

As a journalist, it's my observations as a professional and as a thinking person who is able to set, you know, part of my job is to separate from the emotion and the ideology i have to break things down right when i look at things what are the facts what do we know for a fact what do i know for a fact how do i begin to understand what has happened or here so that i can begin to put my name to this and tell people this is what i believe happened this is what i know happened because i've been able to independently verify it from first-hand sources right so that's why for example when the buzzfeed dossier you know this the steel dossier came out well that was a joke to me from the very beginning because as a journalist it doesn't have any first-hand sources, number one.

Number two, the sources it does have, which are second and third hand, who are FSB agents working for the right government at the time, which is just a joke, okay?

So, not that the FSB, you know, or that intelligence agencies can't have information, they can, but you evaluate that in its context, right?

And anyway, I could go down the list, but that's not an ideological statement for me, and it's not a political statement.

It is to a lot of other people, but not, you know, for me, I break it down.

So in South Africa, you know, there's two big things that I can tell you about.

I grew up despising racism.

I saw people put to death for the color of their skin.

And so I, you know, was forced to confront these issues very early on.

And I don't believe in the death penalty because for me personally, the idea that you could put someone to death for the wrong reasons overwhelms all the considerations when someone deserves, maybe deserves to die, right?

And of course, the argument instantly is well what if your daughter or your son or someone you loved was raped and tortured and murdered wouldn't you want them to die well of course i would but you know what i learned that when you believe in a principle you have to make personal sacrifices for those principles they they're not free as as many people in this country know far better than me freedom isn't free and true tolerance so in south africa you know i really didn't have anything in common with or identify with the extreme right I didn't identify with racism in any way.

In fact, my entire life was defined by the stand that I took for equality and freedom and justice for all.

You know, the example that was set by the ANC and Nelson Mandela and all of the many leaders in South Africa that stood up for that, black and white, by the way.

So what I learned as a young journalist was I didn't get to say when there was an attack or a big event, I'm not going to go and talk to those evil right-wing people people who I despise because my job is to say to them, hey, why did this happen?

What did you do?

And I still have to put their perspective forward.

It also doesn't mean as a journalist that when they said truly crazy lunatic things, when people on all sides said that to me, I didn't just put it out because I could put, you know, because I could CYA, right?

I could cover my butt and I could say, well, this person said it.

Right?

No, you actually had to evaluate those things in the context and you have to see whether there was anything credible in that person saying them, and if they were truly representative of whoever it was you were saying in your story, they represented.

And so, there are subjective judgments in what we do all of the time as journalists, every single minute of the day.

And I've never shied away from that because I've been one of the few journalists who's stood up and said, you know, objectivity is not a human quality.

Subjectivity is our most human quality.

To be objective, we have to we need systems and processes and we need things that we revert to that take us out of our most human instincts and force us to do things that are

not really natural for human beings.

It's natural for us to have opinions.

It's not natural for us to look at things from all different sides.

It's natural for us to agree with the people we like.

It's not natural for us to be as critical of the people we agree with as the ones we disagree with.

So, in a sense, objectivity is something that takes us outside of our nature.

But

it's not something that's completely beyond reach.

And tolerance and being liberal and being open-minded and having an open heart, those things don't belong to any political force, in my view.

I just believe that if you're going to say that you are something, you have to be that thing.

You have to stand up for that thing.

Otherwise, it's meaningless.

Otherwise, they're just words.

They're bumper stickers.

You know,

there are a lot of bumper stitches out there today about being open and being tolerant and about being better people.

And we're boxing people into a very narrow space where we define what people should think.

Someone else defines what we should think, what we should believe in, how we should behave, you know, and who we should associate with.

And in every realm, how we should do those things.

And I got to tell you, I was born free.

Freedom lives within me.

And there's the greatest example in my life that I've ever seen of this, and there are many examples, but the one that I was close to personally was Nelson Mandela.

And when he stood on trial at the Ravonia trial, he was charged with terrorism, and the South African government was at its most powerful.

And his family and friends begged him not to say what he had, the speech he had written for when he got to take the stand.

And he went ahead and did it anyway.

And in that speech, one of the things that he said is that freedom is an ideal for which I would like to live, but it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die.

And that is the price he was willing to pay for the principle that he believed in.

In fact, he was offered his freedom many times in the 27 years he was in prison.

And he never took it because the compromise wasn't worth it.

The compromise meant that the principle didn't stand.

And,

you know, I mean, what greater example can you ever have than a person who gave up their own personal freedom to live behind bars for as long as he did because he understood that the principle had to be intact?

And so I said, you know, what I say to people today is, I haven't changed.

I haven't, I mean, yes, things about me have changed, but I don't change the way I do my job.

I don't change the way I live my life.

I live it with 150%

and do it to the best of my ability.

And I go with an open mind and an open heart.

I don't pretend I don't have prejudices or biases or feelings or emotions.

I just try to put them in the right places and do my job the way

every great journalist and every good journalist out there, every independent, honest journalist tries to do it.

It's not unique to me.

This is why I just love you so much.

That is.

I don't know what else you can say.

I'm going to leave it there.

I would love to have you for a podcast and be able to spend good uninterrupted time with you because

people have to hear

your words.

And I mean, this is what exactly should be taught in journalism schools and should be said on the floor of every newsroom in America.

That what you just said should be played for everyone.

And they should all just nod their head and go, yep, yep, that's true.

Because that's the way it is.

And that has no party or partisan politics in it.

And I really respect you, Laura.

Really respect you.

No, and I do my job no matter who's in power.

And I just want to say to you, thank you, by the way, for supporting me and for standing up for me.

And you know,

you have some great people listening to your show.

One of them right now is very close to me.

And he was a pilot in Vietnam.

And he's one of the best people that I've ever known in my life.

And you have a lot of people that listen to you all the time.

And have talked to me about coming to to do your show and want me to do your podcast.

And I said I would, and I always keep my word.

So I'm going to do that.

I promise.

Laura, thank you so much.

I really appreciate it.

God bless.

You can follow Laura Logan at lauralogan.com.

She's also for doing a three-month expose on the border.

You can find that at Sinclair Broadcasting.

Laura Logan.

So what we need to do is we need to understand

where we came from.

You know, what are the principles?

She was talking about principles.

What are the principles that

we held up and said, this is worth living for, this is worth dying for?

We're going to take a cruise next year

and

we're going to mix a lot of fun

and vacation time with some real learning.

So we're going to go to Venice.

Venice is the place really that financed the

Renaissance.

And what did the Renaissance do?

Reason, the age of reason came out of that.

We're also going to go to Athens and talk a little bit about democracy and a republic.

What is the difference between a straight-up democracy and a republic?

We're going to go to the land of the prophets and Jesus, and we're going to talk about faith and its principles.

And we're going to eat a lot.

Yes.

A lot.

A lot.

We may sink the ship.

Right.

We may eat so much.

It goes underwater.

Daniel Barton, Rabbi Lappin, Stu will be there.

I will be there.

Or David Barton.

Daniel Barton will be there too.

And he's a great guy.

But David Barton will be there as well.

Rabbi Daniel Lappin.

Stu will be there.

Yeah, and here's the thing: once you get your fill of all the really smart stuff from Daniel Lappin and David Barton, then you come find me and we have fun.

That's right.

That's my role on this.

He's kind of the Julie of the old Love Boat series.

I'll take that.

I don't know.

Would I be Isaac?

Because I mean, I could make a good drink, and I don't drink, but I could make a good drink.

Anyway, Bill O'Reilly is also going to be making an appearance.

The tickets are going really rapidly.

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That we were going to draw a name for if people bought tickets to go to the museum yesterday, that we would draw a name.

And we got it in a big A Blinken hat.

And the winner of the personal guided tour by me is from California.

Janice Roka

is the name.

Janice, obviously, listening to us in California yesterday and bought some tickets and now is going to get the personal

guided tickets.

It was

Janice

has five people coming with her.

So it's going to be fun.

It's going to be fun.

And

just get a nap in because I tend to be a little long-winded, just a little bit, on the museum.

And this is going to be a great museum.

We were working on it last night.

Some of the things that you've never seen, you know, when you think of museums, sometimes you think of old crap.

but

this is some old crap, and I hate to use the word crap, seeing that, you know, some of it belonged to Abraham Lincoln.

But there's also a lot of new things.

We're using the experience of the American story of slavery

to show you that A, it was global.

Did you know that only 4%

of the slaves that were shipped across the Atlantic came to America?

Only 4%.

50%,

50% of those slaves went to Brazil.

I didn't know that.

Did you know that Mexico stopped slavery just a few years before we did?

They were actually number two.

Is Britain number one?

Then, then

Mexico, then we were number three.

Except Mexico, it deserves a little asterisk.

Mexico decided to end slavery, and when they passed the bill to end slavery, it was, okay, but you can keep your slaves for 99 more years.

And nobody talks about slavery to Mexico.

Nobody talks about the slavery in Brazil.

But the important thing is, is that it is happening still today.

And we have some pieces from ISIS that will,

you'll never forget.

This is a great, great

museum that we've put together.

It is 12 score and seven years ago, based on the Gettysburg Address.

12 score and seven years ago.

How are we doing on that promise that all men are created equal?

You can see this at the Mercury Studios the end of the last week of June into July, early July.

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

Well, the good news is we're we're eating the hot dog at both ends when it comes to life.

You know what?

That baby's not a baby until I say it's a baby.

And

life on the other end,

it's not really a life if it's not worth living.

Now, a bill legalizing assisted suicide reaches the governor's desk in Maine.

Where is this all headed?

Well, we could be more like Sweden and Denmark and the Netherlands.

They're fantastic.

Are they?

Let me tell you the story of the teenager that was just euthanized.

See if you agree with their decision to be tolerant and

help people out that are in pain.

In one minute.

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Did you see how crazy Miley Cyrus was?

She's hilarious.

She's so funny.

I remember the interview I did with her dad when she first went to Disney.

I do remember this.

Billy Ray, yeah.

Yeah.

And Billy Ray was on, and I said, Billy,

aren't you afraid your daughter is going to be with the devil soon?

And uh, he was like, No, no, no, no, because I'm gonna be there with her, and I know because I've seen all these kids that go to Disney, they all turn out screwed up and leftist and drug addicts and everything else.

Not my sweetie pie.

God, we got to find that interview.

I do remember that general conversation happening because he was he was

like, he was a concerned dad, he was a concerned dad.

She was a good Christian, they were a good Christian family, everything was going well.

And then she went over to Disney.

And we had a great conversation.

And he was like, no, no, no, I am well aware of it.

That's why I'm going to be with her all the time.

We're not breaking up our family.

We're going to be there.

Most of these kids go.

And then they, oof.

Yeah, it's been a rough run here for Miley.

It's amazing.

She's actually theoretically still culturally

relevant.

I mean, it's

like when I saw her face, I was like, what?

Is she still doing things?

She did the same thing.

And I'm like, oh, there's the tongue again.

It's Miley Cyrus.

Right.

So she licks this cake in a photo, and it says abortion is healthcare on it.

And it's, you know,

everyone, it's about the level of analysis most people put into this particular topic.

They see a, they like a photo on Instagram.

Like, there's not a lot of thought going on here.

I just need to know what to put on my cake that I'm going to lick later today.

I mean, probably buttercream would be my guess.

It's certainly the way you normally do it.

Exactly.

No, I mean, you know,

what should it say?

I mean.

Oh, we should take some suggestions.

Maybe we'll get one.

I liked yours, what you put on your response.

Well, it's a picture of her licking the cake, so the icing says this cake now has a venereal disease.

Right.

Which is unfortunate.

That's sad.

That's not wrong.

That's not

wrong.

I'm amazed by this.

Abortion.

is a lot of things.

It used to be something that we all, everyone in society recognized either as evil or a necessary evil, right?

The pro-choice side said it was a necessary evil.

There's some places, we don't, look, we want it to be safe, legal, and rare.

Well, why do you want it to be rare?

What's the, why rare?

What's why would you want it rare?

It seems like if it's not negative, why would you want it rare?

And of course, the answer to that is they actually, I mean, there are a lot of people who consider themselves pro-choice who want it rare, but the people who are designing slogans like safe, legal, and rare say, screw rare.

You know, legal is the main thing.

Whether it's safe or not is not really a concern either.

Right.

It's not.

So it's been an interesting development in this kind of world that's gone to now saying either shout your abortion, it was, where did I have my best abortion?

It was in Jamaica at, you know, at a resort.

By the way, if you don't know, he's not making that up.

A lady gave a speech about where her best abortion was.

And she was

to a crowd, yeah.

And she said it was right.

It happened right here in Seattle, and it was the best abortion.

It was my first, and it was my best.

Oh, my gosh, what a psycho.

So you have that.

And then the other idea that somehow it's healthcare.

Abortion is a lot of things.

One thing it is not is healthcare.

No.

Healthcare can't be, hey, I want you to die.

Like you can't make, you can't make ending a life into healthcare.

Now, especially when the person is not even there to

agree to it, right?

Like the person has no opinion.

It's one thing to say euthanasia.

Okay, well, I mean, is what Dr.

Kvorkin did health care?

I mean, I don't think so, but at least he's a doctor and it's a medical sort of procedure.

So maybe you make that argument.

Well,

the person

is making the own choice.

I am not for euthanasia.

I think it's a bad, bad standard to set.

However, at the same time, I am conflicted.

I just don't want the government and the medical

community

having to sign off on everything because then it just becomes part of the system.

And I don't like that.

I think you have a right to kill yourself.

Now, I come from a family with two suicides.

Suicide is destructive.

It is awful.

It destroys a family.

It harms the chi.

It is the most selfish and destructive thing you can do.

And I know because it's happened twice.

And

it affects everyone around you.

With that being said, do you have the right to your own

life?

I think you do.

I think you do.

It's going to be really hard to stop people.

It's one of those things that you can make a law against it if you want.

Well, it's like the big Trump baby in Europe,

in England.

Did you hear what happened to it yesterday?

Did it get popped?

It got popped.

Somebody shivved it.

Somebody took a knife and cut a hole in it.

Well,

I thought you outlawed knives in Great Britain.

How did that happen?

But anyway,

but what's happening now is we are devaluing things so much because it's just the starting point,

safe, rare, and legal, right?

We want it to be rare.

Well, in the Netherlands, they passed a law a few years ago where you could have euthanasia, and it was supposed to be safe, rare, and legal.

And it was just for people who had absolutely no prospect of getting better.

So you're at the end of your life.

You've got cancer and you're in in massive pain.

Just please, just help me die.

Please help me die.

Now I can understand that.

I really can.

I hope I don't get there, but I've been close to, I've been close to that kind of pain before where I'm like, I can't live like this.

I can't live like this anymore.

So I understand it.

However, What's happened now is you used to have to have a psychiatrist also sign off.

So you had to have two doctors and one psychiatrist, I think.

And so the doctors both had to say, yep, terminal and blah, blah, blah.

And the psychiatrist had to say, yeah, they're in their right mind.

Okay.

I think that's, I think that's probably a pretty good standard.

Well, they're getting rid of the psychiatrist now because the psychiatrist is, you know, is pointing out, no, this person is just really depressed.

So

they're getting rid of the psychiatrist so he doesn't have to sign on anymore.

And they're starting to get rid of people, For instance,

they just got rid of, I think it was a 20-some-year-old guy who was mentally handicapped.

And, you know, he said he didn't have a life and he was never going to have a good life.

And so he wanted to kill himself.

And so they killed him.

Now,

here's the latest.

A teenager.

who was raped by two men when she was 14

said that, and she also has anorexia,

and she has all kinds of problems.

I mean, it's clear this girl has gone through really horrific things.

Okay,

she's 17 years old.

She said the pain she was dealing with after the childhood rape was insufferable,

and she couldn't live this way.

And so she decided that she wanted to be euthanized, and they did it.

A 17-year-old girl who had been raped

and had tragic things happening to her.

She had anorexia, which is a sign of a mental issue.

She said it was too much.

She couldn't deal with it.

Please kill me.

And they did.

What the hell is wrong with us?

I mean, as a human being, as a human being, something's wrong with us when we don't see the potential for that life.

And we don't say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

First of all, there have been people that have gotten through a lot more than you have.

And the parents were on board with this, weren't they?

Yeah.

I mean, can you imagine?

Look,

it's a tough situation in certain circumstances.

I understand that.

But the problem here is like, like, it would be unthinkable to an American parent right now to go to them and say, hey, your kid's in a lot of pain.

They're really suffering.

Do you want them dead?

Right.

And of course, everyone would say no.

The issue in these other countries, after a certain amount of time, there's no more stigma, right?

Like they just like, oh, well, I guess, yeah, I mean, if she's saying she wants to be dead and it's legal and just go with it.

That's the same thing that happens with abortion, right?

I mean, people, you know, a lot of people who would normally not consider such a thing don't go down the road of really thinking it out because the government has made the decision for them.

It's illegal.

It's a legal thing.

And it's the same thing.

It happened.

The same thing happened with slavery.

There are tons of people who are not, you know, some of the founders, right?

Like what was David Barton saying yesterday?

We were doing a thing on slavery coming up for a future show.

And he was saying that I think about a quarter of people in that founding era believed the horrible things that you'd believe about slavery.

You know, that

they're not horrible people.

It was good for them.

They lived terribly in Africa.

It's better here.

All the the things that

you would associate with a racist opinion about slavery from the founding era.

And about a quarter of the founders believe that.

I think if you went to the average person in America,

there's not the sort of

thought put into that in the 1700s as to

whether slavery should be legal or not.

Every day they had been alive, people had been slaves.

African Americans were treated as second-class citizens or 15th class class citizens the entire time.

It was like this all over the world.

And unless your job is to sit down and rethink these things and challenge those sort of long-held viewpoints, you never get to a point where you even consider.

I would say a good portion, 75%,

I bet, of people who consider themselves pro-choice have put such little thought into it that they couldn't defend it.

Right.

Like they wouldn't be able to defend it.

And believe me, every conversation I have with someone who is pro-choice can't defend it.

You can't get there because there isn't a defense to it.

With the exception of some people who really have philosophically thought about this for a long time, there's some that really know those arguments and fall on a side that I don't really truly understand.

But the average person isn't there at all.

They see that it's legal.

They see that what they get from people like Miley Cyrus is evil men are telling you what to do and that's not right.

So give money to these people.

The nice people think killing your baby is okay.

The mean people think it's not.

Therefore, go with the nice people, the cool people.

That's how, generally speaking, people view this.

And they always say this thing about how, you know, who can't have an opinion on abortion are men, right?

This is a women's health issue.

And of course, as a man, I find that can be completely offensive.

Certainly plenty of women vote on things that only affect men, and they have opinions on it, and they should.

We are an American citizen.

We have a First Amendment.

You should have an opinion on whatever you want.

The funny thing about this, though, in poll after poll after poll, women are more opposed to abortion than men are.

This makes plenty of sense because it's men who are able to get out of the responsibility, right?

Like men don't want to, think about yourself as a 22-year-old schlub and you just knocked up some girl you barely know and she's like, I don't know, maybe I'll have an abortion.

If you don't have a moral obligation to say, no, please have the baby, what are you going to say?

Yeah, go ahead.

I'll drive it to the clink.

I'll pay for the thing, right?

Like, if you have no moral qualms with it, of course, as a guy, you're going to be getting out of this, you know, this, this

responsibility for the rest of your life.

You're going to avoid the punishment of a baby, to put it frankly.

So, of course, guys

are going to be more, yeah, you know, abortion sounds pretty wonderful.

You're the one, you don't have to go through the procedure.

You get out of the punishment from a baby.

And women, who are the ones, only ones who are supposed to have opinions on this, are actually more against abortion than men are.

So, the long thing, the end of this is turning this into a cultural issue is one of the most brilliant strategies of all time.

It's not culture.

Slavery wasn't culture.

Slavery was not a cultural issue.

It wasn't about like, well, the rights of the slave owner.

I mean, that was a horrific moral

failure.

And so is this.

And the fact that Miley Cyrus, who I would also describe as a horrific moral failure, is on that side of the argument should not be surprising.

Well,

yeah, but she was licking a cake.

Did you see that?

It was really, it looked really good.

I thought I'd put on my cake.

Skanks shouldn't lick my cake.

But that's probably wrong.

Probably.

Yeah.

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Yes.

Thank you.

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Thank you for admitting it finally, you right-wing extremist.

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Did you hear Obama what he said on stage?

Oh, we have to cover that.

Do we have the.

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Play the, here's Obama.

And some of you may be aware, our gun laws in the United States don't make much sense.

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Nope.

Not true.

Without.

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They can buy machine guns.

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If that's what it is for a handgun,

how difficult is it for a machine gun?

You're listening to Glenn Beck.

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So I don't know if you've seen Netflix, their series, Our Planet, its documentary, and it's David Attenborough, blah, blah, blah.

And everybody thinks, oh, it's beautiful and it's got all kinds of great information in it.

Oh my gosh, these walruses are committing suicide.

There is a researcher, a zoologist with 35 years of experience,

especially on Arctic animals.

And

she said, no, no, this is just Netflix and their tragedy porn, the climate hoax.

I don't know if you can put your kids in front of our planet and just say, oh yeah, watch this.

It's great.

Because it's full of nonsense.

And they're saying these walruses are, you know, falling to their death because they're starving to death and there's no ice.

And it's very sad.

It's awful to watch.

But she said that's not what's happening.

And Susan is with us now.

Hello, Susan.

How are you?

I'm just fine.

Thanks.

Good morning.

So tell me about the walruses that are, I mean, just plunging to their death because there's no ice.

Well, in fact,

the haulouts of walrus these are mostly mothers with their calves um on these arctic beaches um

they're really natural events that are not caused by lack of sea ice they've always happened and the the

um herds come on on onto the shore um in large numbers because the walruses are more abundant now than they were even

50 years ago.

Okay, so they have they're like a boom-and-bust society, aren't they?

When

they

go ahead.

No, I was just going to say that they have a tendency to the population builds higher and higher,

but then they outstrip their food supply.

And then animals starve and the population goes down until the food supply can rebuild.

And mostly they're eating clams and things like that that live on the bottom of the ocean.

So, what is this haulout?

What does that mean, the haulout?

Well, walruses are herd animals.

They really like to stick together.

And in fact, they really prefer to be tightly packed.

And so, they

group together.

The haulout just means grouping together.

And so,

when there's sea ice available, they will haul out on the ice in fairly large groups.

And at other times, they will haul out on beaches.

But they don't,

they have been hauling out on beaches since the 1800s.

There's been records going back of those haulouts, both on the coast of Russia.

near the Bering Sea and also on the coast of Alaska.

So this is a behavior that's quite natural for them, and it really isn't sea ice dependent.

It's something that happens in the late summer and fall on a fairly regular basis.

And so they've been doing this since we've started noticing them and recording them.

And they go up onto the beach or onto the rocks, and they're all

tightly packed in.

And is it just kind of like a whole bunch of puppies on a bed, and somebody moves and another person person moves and one of the puppies would fall off the bed I mean they're not committing suicide and they're they're just they're just so packed tightly that is that what's happening exactly exactly and and the other thing is that they they're also quite easily spooked at that point in time because these are mostly mothers with their calves they're very protective and if if one of the animals at the back of the pack sort of on the beach side gets frightened and starts heading for the water water because that's their natural instinct when they're frightened.

Then they sort of push the herd ahead of them.

And in fact, hundreds of animals can be trampled even along a flat beach.

But if they've managed to get themselves up onto a high cliff, then there's no alternative but to fall over the edge.

And it's not only certain that that's what happened in the Netflix video, but we know from reports that were issued in the newspaper that there was an

polar bears had actually spooked walruses off the same cliff that was filmed in that video two days before it was filmed.

So wait a minute.

So wait a minute.

Because in that film, it shows all these walruses down at the bottom of the pile of rocks.

And you think, oh my gosh, they're just...

They're just all dying.

And wish there was just an ice slope there to just gently push them back in the water.

But you're saying not only is it normal and natural for them to go up on the rocks and then have no place to go but over the cliff, but you're saying that that big pile was also partly caused by polar bears and them up at the top of the cliff going, oh crap, oh crap, oh crap, and backing up over the cliff?

Yes, absolutely.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, and because we know that there was this incident that was initiated by polar bears

that happened just two days before.

We know that most of those animals that were filmed, the

carcasses laying along the beach, almost certainly happened

from the polar bear spooked incident.

And

what we think happened was that there were members from World Wildlife Foundation or

the WWF

who were on site at the time and part part of the whole Netflix team, called the film crew in to come and film the walruses

up on the cliff.

And so it was really a whole contrived setup.

And

in looking at what was happening, we know that there were still polar bears in the area.

I've seen the film.

In fact, the closing shot shows a polar bear coming out of the water onto the beach

to feed on the walruses, the dead walruses.

But when you're looking at how the the whole footage was shot,

there's a cameraman positioned just about at the place where the walruses could have come safely down from the cliff, but that way was blocked.

And if there were still polar bears in the area, they could have been coming up from on the backside of the cliff, or at least the walruses could have smelled them.

Even that would have set them off.

What we also know is that some of the shots in the film had to have been taken with a drone.

Now, even a drone flying overhead could also have spooked them.

So we've got a situation where the filmmakers themselves

could have been licent in

generating at least the walruses that filmed, the fell that they filmed.

And then they attributed all of that to a lack of sea ice blamed on climate change.

So

how much of these series, because my son watches them, my daughter watches them, I've watched them, and there's times when I've rolled my eyes and gone, okay,

but I didn't know all this about the walruses.

How much of these things can we even sit down and let our kids watch?

and trust that it's true.

Well, I think really what the only thing that you can do is let your kids watch it.

I mean, it's beautiful photography.

That's beautiful.

There's no doubt that it actually is,

you know, parts of it are true.

I mean, the haul-outs are true.

But you have to take the commentary with a grain of salt.

But you also have to be prepared ahead of time to talk to your kids about the fact that everything that is said there might not be true.

And hey, maybe we should follow up and look into this.

And they've said that this is why this happened.

Let's go and look up to see, you know,

what the background information is on that.

And I think that if parents are prepared to follow up with their kids

and to look into that, that

it makes it a learning experience.

Susan, I got to tell you,

they don't have access to a zoologist like you, like I do.

And you go online,

I'm sure WWF and

all of these global warming

institutions have rushed to put things out that say it is true.

I mean, how do you know what's true?

How do you know what a trusted source is on actual science anymore?

No, well, that is true, for sure.

And but what you can do, I mean, it's one of the reasons that I've been blogging about polar bears since 2012, and that's to actually make sure that the information is up there for people to find on the Internet.

Now, people might say, well, how do I trust you?

However, what I do is make sure that I list the sources where I get my information from so that people can follow it up.

But at the very least, when there's information like that available, you can say, oh, okay, well, there's two sides to this story.

This person's saying this, this person's saying that.

Then maybe I have to leave

any interpretation

up in the air and just say that

none of it can be trusted.

And that's really

an awful place for science to be in.

Okay, Susan, thank you so much for being on with us.

We really appreciate your time.

Her name is Susan Crockford.

She is a zoologist and author of the the book The Polar Bear Catastrophe That Never Happened.

You can read her article, Netflix is Lying About Those Falling Walruses, at the Financial Post.

And her website is polarbearscience.com.

That's polarbearscience.com.

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so President Trump just landed in Ireland.

I wonder if he said, oh, top of the morning to you, look at the sun.

If the media would be as kind as they were to Barack Obama.

Oh, I think so.

Immediately, they would say that was a very solid Irish accent and approve it completely.

I've got Donna Shalala with me.

What?

Yeah, he's

the coverage of this is so, I mean, they just, it's all about like the balloon.

There's a balloon of Donald Trump and the diaper.

I love the fact that that balloon was stabbed.

I love the fact the person came up to it and was like, he's the greatest president ever and then stabbed it, ripped a hole in it, and so it deflated.

Yeah, it's actually interesting because, you know, usually Republican presidents are not at all popular anywhere overseas.

And Trump is not at all popular in London.

But in the country, generally speaking, he has a lot of support.

I mean, because remember, half of this country voted for Brexit, and basically every world leader said they were terrible except Donald Trump.

Yeah.

No, he's with the people.

He's just, I mean, it's just like Ronald Reagan.

It was the same thing the way it was, I remember in Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan would go to England and he was hated.

The only thing was, is he had,

I almost said Teresa May,

Margaret Thatcher, who they hated as much as they hated Reagan.

So there's the two of them going, I don't really care.

Yeah, Teresa May cares, I guess, or she wouldn't be stepping down.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's sad for her.

Yeah.

And they just like highlight every little thing.

They're like, the gift from Teresa May was a document about the founding of NATO and other U.S.

organizations or global organizations.

It's like,

why is this even a thing?

I hope Boris Johnson gets in because he's just got enough Trump in him that he just doesn't care.

I think his hair kind of is like Donald Trump's hair, too.

And he may be the next prime minister, which he's the favorite.

Yeah.

I mean, guys like Donald Trump are

very popular with people who are sick of the media and the typical politician.

I don't care where you are in the world.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.