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A

just

heartbreaking tragedy yesterday in Paris, France.

Luckily, it looks like

much of the relics have been taken out.

We're not sure

what the stained glass window they say.

This is the most important

uh christian treasure

in all of europe is the stained glass window the rosette window there in uh the cathedral of notre dame

there's speculation that was wild yesterday on the internet it looks like it was caused by construction we'll tell you the whole story in one minute

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Sitting in a basilica

at 570 AD

in the heart of Jerusalem lay a crown of thorns.

They had been there for a while.

Then the wars started, and the emperors started coming from Constantinople, now

Istanbul.

The crown of thorns and a relic of the true cross then went to Istanbul, where it stayed until 1238.

Things started to get a little dicey for the Emperor Baldwin in Constantinople, and he had already mortgaged everything he had,

including the Crown of Thorns.

That's when King Louis in 1238 decided to see if he could buy the relics and bring them to Paris.

He was looking to unite people, and he thought the the crown of thorns would be the thing that could help him do it.

He paid three times,

three times what it cost to build the cathedral that it was kept in.

It was not originally kept in Notre Dame.

It was moved to Notre Dame

after the relic barely escaped the French Revolution.

In the French Revolution, they were collectivists, socialists, anti-capitalists, anti-religionists, anti-God.

And they desecrated Notre Dame.

They had sex on the altar and sacrifices.

They said it was a temple of reason, not a temple of God.

In the

chapel where the true cross and the crown of thorns were kept, much of it was destroyed.

Somehow or another, those two relics escaped, and they lay safe until after the Revolution and 1806.

1806 is when Napoleon said we should move these to temporarily to Notre Dame for safekeeping.

Well, they were moved there, and they were never moved again until yesterday.

These are the crown jewels of France, and it was an extraordinarily brave priest that went into the flames to grab these relics.

Whether they are truly the true cross and the

uh

the crown of thorns

we'll never really know.

They've been dated to the right era, the right time.

But whether they are the true cross and the the true crown of thorns, we don't know, and there are only about seventy thorns, they say, seventy thorns left, because at the time, King Louis would give one of the thorns to people who had done something that he favored.

Now it's preserved in a crystal case, a round crystal case that was made made in the late 1800s, and it is only out a couple of times.

One on Good Friday, which is coming up on this Friday, and Easter.

Usually it is laying

away from prying eyes.

I was struck yesterday by

I will never see

Notre Dame, and it is

what I had said

recently.

I had told my family, and I had told you, for different reasons, that these churches and these cathedrals and these monuments will be lost in the coming years.

All I could think of was

we had planned a trip to Paris

just this last summer, and I canceled it because we were in the middle of doing doing business.

And I had told my family, we have got to get to Paris before it burns down to the ground.

And you won't see things like the cathedral anymore.

I said it

multiple times.

But honestly, the second I saw Notre Dame on Fire on television, the first thing I thought about was Glenn saying this because I thought it was just, you know, it's one of those things that are just so random that Glenn just blurts out.

You're like, what are you even talking about?

And, but yeah, you said it, I mean, multiple times.

I remember.

But I said it because of ISIS.

ISIS.

You were saying that.

And you're saying this is targeted.

Yeah, I think this is actually a blessing, and we can get into that in a minute.

Yeah, listen, though, because I think there's a case.

Well, listen to this.

This is Glenn in 2015.

We dug this one up for you here.

Listen, here's Glenn talking inexplicably about Notre Dame being destroyed.

Because of what is happening, I believe London, France, Germany, Greece, I believe these things could be destroyed in what is coming.

And especially because remember who you're fighting against.

You're fighting against Islamic extremists.

The places that they will target will be places like the Cathedral of Notre Dame.

You could go back to Germany to France in 15 years from now, and it might be free.

It might not be.

It might be free.

But the Cathedral of Notre Dame may be gone.

Now

that's 2015.

Here he is in another show.

This is on TV in 2015 as well.

So when I was talking to Tim Ferriss, he said, so what do you see coming?

And I said,

Paris is in trouble.

Paris is in trouble.

And I said, they're going to get the Cathedral of Notre Dame.

And I said, it's just a gut feeling.

So now this comes out on the weekend that they are doing

Paris as their first stop.

And they're saying it's the Eiffel Tower.

It's not.

That was one minor distinction.

It wasn't ISIS.

It It was construction workers.

Okay, but wait a minute.

Hang on just a second.

That was 2015.

In 2016, in 2016, ISIS targeted Notre Dame.

And 2017, they tried to blow it up with a car bomb.

I was going to say, like, this is

the fact that Notre Dame caught on fire yesterday was not what proved you right.

It was these two, I mean, multiple attacks and attempts to get rid of.

Notre Dame by ISIS.

This has already happened.

Yes.

And that's why I say I think this is a blessing.

And we'll get into the conspiracy theories and everything else and debunk all of that.

And I want to say that again, debunk all of that.

We should be clear, though.

They're not saying for sure what happened.

No, it looks to be.

It looks strongly to be.

Related to their renovations.

Correct.

We do not know that yet.

Correct.

That's not confirmed.

Correct.

And we'll talk about all of that.

But let me just say this.

I think if it was construction, this is actually a blessing.

Imagine if we we knew today that ISIS had gone in and started a fire in Notre Dame and had burned that thing just as badly as it is, had burned Notre Dame down.

Think about what people are saying in France now.

This, it's their White House, if you will.

I can't think of a more precious building in America than this.

And you mentioned the Crown of Thorns.

There was a piece of the Crown of Thorns in the spire to protect the building.

Wow.

And that's obviously lost.

If you watch the video, the spire collapses.

There's no way that they're going to be able to get that.

I mean, I can't imagine, unless it was protected in some string, you know, in a way to defend against just this.

Maybe they thought of that.

But yeah, I mean, like, that's how serious it is.

I mean, this is

foundational.

This is like blowing up or burning down Buckingham Palace.

This is the symbol of France, and

longer than the Eiffel Tower.

Bringing down the Eiffel Tower is bad.

Notre Dame is what is left of the spiritual side of France.

And

because it is so ingrained in French history, it has become almost spiritual even for those who don't believe in God.

It is a sacred place, even for those who don't understand the sacred the way a religious person might.

So it is actually,

in a way,

it could help defuse things.

By taking this and removing this as a target is actually probably a very good thing long run.

That's a different way of looking at that.

But I mean, just imagine what

today would be like if we found out last night, if they had blown that up.

And there are a million conspiracies going around, but be clear that if it was ISIS and it was confirmed, there'd be a million conspiracy theorists saying they were only blaming Muslims because

they wanted to inflame tensions and create war.

So there's no side is

innocent on this one.

Yeah.

That's why we want to be very, very clear that it looks like it is not anything to do with extremism of any kind.

Remember,

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I don't.

It's France, probably not.

They're still trying to fit.

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I don't understand.

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This is the sound outside of the Notre Dame Cathedral last night as people gathered.

Okay, so Jason is here.

Jason Battrill, who is a

chief researcher and has been watching these things in particular, especially ISIS in Europe with me for over five years now.

This is something that we saw coming, just not through construction.

How convinced are you that it is construction, Jason?

I'm 90% convinced.

Yeah, I mean,

so the first couple of fire alarms that went off centered around the area where they're actually doing the renovations.

So I think it's right at the base of the spire that you saw collapse yesterday.

So to me,

they were not working at 6 o'clock, were they?

This is when the fire broke out.

It was around 6.

Yeah.

I mean, the French working till six, that's not possible.

No, that's unheard of.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They like work an hour a day.

Yeah, no, it didn't sound like it.

And all the, like, I was, I was reading like their schedule, and apparently they take very, very special care to inspect that area because it's that wooden, you know, iconic wooden, you know, area up there.

And

I guess they inspect it three times a day to make sure that it doesn't catch fire.

Oh, you're kidding.

Three times a day.

But tragically, that's exactly the spot that catches fire.

It's just, it's absolutely horrible.

So what, what,

I know we don't have any clue, but I mean,

are we guessing that it was like electrical or?

That's what I think.

Unless it was some French drywaller that was like, oh, you know, and threw a cigarette butt or something like that.

But

I don't think that's the case.

My guess would be probably like some electrical equipment that malfunctioned or short-circuited or something like that.

That's the only thing I can think of.

So tell me about the fire department not being dispatched right away.

Did you read up on that at all?

There was, yeah.

So the very first call was, like you said, somewhere around six.

Then I guess they went to inspect it, couldn't see a fire up there.

So then they called, so, but then 20 minutes later, I think it was 20 minutes, the fire alarm goes off again.

But this time they were like, let's get somebody out of here because this is kind of crazy.

But then it took an extended, another extended period of time for the fire trucks to get there because that was right during rush hour.

So not only were they delayed because of the second call, the first call, they kind of dismissed it, then they were delayed in traffic.

So, that's what took so long.

And I guess that's why the fire was able to spread without them actually doing anything for such a long time.

Unbelievable.

Horrible.

Okay, so as you were looking, I asked you yesterday afternoon when this happened.

I said, Jason, go look and see.

Because I didn't think that even if it was Islamic extremism, I didn't think we would be getting the truth because it would set fire to the entire country.

And so they might want to bury this.

Did you see any evidence of anybody burying anything?

Nobody burying anything.

A whole lot of evidence of people coming out and saying a lot of crazy stuff, really.

And that's what's insane: just how, pardon the pun, on fire

France is

right now.

Well, there's been 11, there have been 11 churches in the last, what, 40 days in France that have been burned.

Yeah, 12 churches in one week last month.

One was the Saint-Solpis

church, which was in the Da Vinci Code in the movie.

They use that.

That fired.

The documentary.

The documentary, Da Vinci Code.

People went in and actually said.

By the way, if you ever go into the Vatican Secret Archives, which nobody ever gets to go in, but I went in,

do not bring up Dan Brown.

Which you did, which I did, and it got ugly fast.

I do not think it's funny.

No, no.

No, we were walking.

There was no problem.

Everybody's just walking along, having a nice time.

We're just chit-chatting on the way from one place to another.

And I said, so let me ask you, I know it's not true, but the Dan Brown.

I got that far, and everyone stopped.

Dan Brown, he is not a scholar.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, I got it, I got it.

Anyway,

the Saints Soul Peace fire was set in like some clothing.

So, like, the clothing they set out for the poor.

Yeah.

Some people went and set fire to that.

But that was one of the fires.

They were able to put that out without anybody getting hurt.

But the other attacks were really, really crude and vulgar.

One was another attack that week.

They put some vandals came in and they put excrement on the wall and made a cross out of excrement.

Another one is they.

That is

very biblical.

Excrement

and using it to deface things is very biblical.

We talked about this, remember, during Occupy Wall Street, where they were defecating on cop cars and they were defecating on things.

It's actually part of a ritual,

Old Testament evil, evil bail kind of stuff.

Excrement is

ritualistic in its own right.

And that's just one of the attacks.

Others involved, they all typically involved desecrating

the Christ statue or symbol up on the walls, contorting him into obscene gestures, desecrating the altars, things like that.

It was really, really just crude, vile things.

And there were, I think, 60 of these

in the last year in Germany and Brussels.

The attacks on Christians is out of control in Europe.

Oh, absolutely out of control.

I looked up the official Ministry of Interior numbers.

There were over 1,700 attacks, religious-based attacks, either on churches or people in 2018.

Only 100 of those were attacks on Muslims, which if you listen to anybody else probably talking about this pontificating about it, they're probably going to say it's all about Muslims.

But only 100 of those, 1,700, were attacks on Muslims.

541 of those were anti-Semitic attacks on Jews or synagogues.

1,063 were attacks on Christians and churches.

That comes out to about two a day from that time period up until today.

Christianity is under attack.

Thank God that that, so far as we know, was not the case in Paris yesterday.

In some ways, this is a godsend.

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What do you want to talk about today?

Well, I thought that the Notre Dame thing is so sad.

850 years of history just burning down in front of our eyes.

It's amazing.

It's really kind of almost

emblematic of how

I

feel in some ways that it's we're losing our history.

We're just destroying

the great

accomplishments.

We're changing our conversation.

We're changing our traditions.

We're changing our history.

Right.

Yes.

And it is.

You watch that and you thought, it's gone.

Yeah.

Luckily, it wasn't.

Fortunately, yeah, they saved the main part of the cathedral, which is great, but that steeple crashing down was just so disheartening.

And was anybody else?

You know, I wrote this this in a tweet and I didn't see any of the responses, so I don't know if anybody related to it, but I just said

the steeple crashed, and I said,

Those of us in America just had a horrible flashback.

Did it feel that way to you?

It did.

I didn't know.

I thought of 9-11 for sure.

Yeah, me too.

I didn't know if anybody else felt that.

There's no evidence of that in this, but

just the symbolism of that thing falling.

Yeah, when that collapsed, it just felt the same.

It did.

But

these evil billionaires who donated $339 million

the day of the fire.

I wonder if that'll give anybody pause about evil billionaires.

Nope.

Already they've raised $600 million.

Did you see that?

It's something a little bit over $600 million.

You know how much it's going to cost to rebuild?

How much?

I don't remember.

Well, A, we don't know the cost of rebuilding it, but just the cost alone.

Look up what the restoration was supposed to cost.

Well, it can't be more than $600 million, can it?

Yeah.

Yeah, really?

Yeah.

It was

the

restoration that they were doing, they just started, was supposed to take 30 years to finish.

Wow.

30 years.

We may not see this thing restored in our lifetime.

So they said before the blaze, restoration costs had already already been estimated at $170 million.

Okay, $170.

I thought, okay.

But I mean, that's a lot.

It's a lot.

And then that's just a restoration.

$600 should cover it.

Ah.

So look, maybe just make a normal concrete building and just

make a skyscraper and call it a bubble, man.

So

the thing that I saw, because I went back and I was looking at what they were restoring and the things that they couldn't restore at that point that they might now is

the concrete that they put between the stones has

no

I don't even know what you would call it no way for the water to go through the concrete so the concrete is rock solid but the stones are very porous and so what's happening is as it's been raining on it for all these years these stones are just washing away so that the entire walls are are just rickety the The concrete in between, good.

The stones are turning into sand.

Wow.

And so they didn't know at the time what they were going to do.

And I bet now

with this kind of opportunity of, look, everything's destroyed on the inside.

Why don't we start from the foundation and start to go back up?

I don't think it's just going to be a restoration of

what was lost.

I bet you it becomes a restoration from the ground up.

It's amazing to think that that building, our nation is about a third the age of that building.

One-third.

We've been here for 243 years.

They're 850, and they started building it 900 years ago.

I mean, that's amazing.

All of that history, and so much of it just burned down yesterday.

It's really sad.

How convinced are you, though, that the actual crown of thorns has been stored there?

Not actual.

Not Not convinced?

I'm a tad skeptical as well.

Yeah.

Well, it was found in 570.

Was it?

Yeah.

570.

Well,

she, Mary Magdalene supposedly dropped it off long before that.

How come it took him so long to find?

I don't know.

I don't know.

It was in a basilica.

You know, the first track of that.

Oh, that's from the actual crucifixion?

Yeah, maybe we should put that in a special place.

I don't know.

Well, what was a special place back then?

An attic, I guess.

Oh, it was like

it was like kids with, you know, their toys that were like, oh, that was an original Star Wars.

You should have left it in the box.

A little more important than an original Star Wars, I'm thinking.

Whatever.

Did you see that there's a movie coming out, a Mary Magdalene movie?

Yeah.

With like about her

Phoenix as Jesus.

Yeah.

Watch.

Oh, it's going to be.

I'm sure it's not going to be controversial at all.

So I have the screener.

They sent me the screener.

I haven't watched it yet.

What's it called?

Mary Magdalene.

I think it's called Mary Magdalene.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

And who plays Mary Magdalene?

It's a female.

I saw the ultimate start.

I saw the opening 10 minutes, and it was really pretty good.

It was really good.

If they sent it to you, though, that means that it is seemingly a relevant movie.

They must think it's really pretty good.

Remember, they invited us to go see Noah.

Well, true.

But Noah, I'm not saying it was the right movie, but they were trying to appeal.

It's not like a

Last Temptation of Christ, right?

Where they're not trying to appeal to religious people.

They're trying to appeal to people, you know, maybe

whoever made this is trying to appeal to religious audience.

I just don't know what it says.

I haven't watched the movie, but it looked really good.

I thought it looked really good.

Are they alleging?

I was surprised that they're laser guns.

Is it like a relationship?

No,

they're not.

They are.

On the trailer, at least.

Yeah, no.

She loves him.

Like romantically?

It's a love, you know, that surpasses all love.

So

it's not like

the Apocrypha

alleges that they were married.

Correct.

But it's not a, it's, it didn't look like there was a temptation of, you know, if I could just get Jesus in the sack.

It doesn't look like that, which would be so.

She seems to be a very dedicated follower, is the first thing.

A very dedicated follower.

And she's to be married to somebody else.

And she's like, I've got to be with him.

I have to be with him.

And it's not, it didn't appear.

That could be just a disciple thing.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah.

That's what it appears.

That's what it appears.

And she loves him, but it seems like.

So do a few billion people, too.

Yes.

You know what I noticed?

So do I.

That number seems to be getting smaller recently.

Have you noticed that?

Yeah, there's been some symbolism in the last day or two.

That's been,

you know, certain buildings burning to the ground is a,

it's a little, I don't know.

It doesn't,

it's not the best optics at the moment, considering uh the the current state of freaking

world.

Perhaps another reminder.

And at the very start of Holy Week, it does seem more than coincidental, but apparently, I mean, they're just saying it's coincidence, right?

They were so far yet.

And they don't think there was anything nefarious going on.

They are not saying what the cause was yet, right?

They don't know what it is.

I heard it was from the remodeling.

That's what they keep.

That's what they believe is

started, however.

It started up on the real rickety wood part where they are remodeling.

But as we just pointed out with Jason, they check that three times a day specifically for fire.

They have

an

elaborate checks and balances where an inspector comes three times a day.

So if you're inspecting it three times a day, you know that.

It's likely that the place could burn down if you're not careful.

Because it's really old dry wood, right?

This is

where they call it.

They should have checked it four times a day.

Yeah, maybe.

Do they call it the forest?

Is this the part that they call the forest, which is like such old wood that

that was their nickname for it?

Which, you know.

Yeah, because I read someplace that it did take, it took like 54 forests to build that part.

It was like some ungodly

amount of wood that

was required for that that part.

Yeah.

I thought it was amazing when the steeple was on fire right before it went down.

It was all covered in lead, and the lead was literally melting.

And so when you look at the spire, if you can see it through the smoke, there's a couple of shots where it's kind of close.

And

the spire, the actual structure of it, is just glowing red.

It's an amazing shot because everything was, all the metal was, of course, we know metal doesn't melt.

Right.

I remember that.

Steel certainly doesn't.

Yeah.

Unless you've seen it poured.

Fair point.

It was an optical illusion.

Okay.

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somehow or another had just passed, and it was just everybody looked the other way, and everybody thought that was fine, even though her husband had gone over at the request of that company

and gave speeches and was paid uh handsomely.

And then a nice donation to the Clinton Foundation, uh, was uh given.

I wondered why at the time, why isn't anybody willing to look into this?

I think it's because

everybody's dirty.

Everybody's dirty.

The Clintsons really kind of started this and made it into a business.

And

the

one who has, at least that we know of, who has really taken this to a whole new level is Joe Biden.

He has enriched his family.

in so many ways.

As we told you yesterday, when the New York Times called

his brother, who was in on one of these scams.

He called his brother, and they were

researching another thing that Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son, was involved in.

And

it was bad news, really bad news.

And Joe Biden's brother said, I had nothing to do with that.

I don't want to talk about it.

I don't want to be pulled into all of this.

And the question is, all of what?

All of what?

Perhaps you will see

a glimpse into the world of Joe Biden and into the world of those who say they're just like you and they want fairness and they want equality.

They really don't.

They really don't.

They're being paid handsomely, and

it's a racket.

Our government has become a racket in many ways.

I mean, again, you said, and I think it's true that

so many people are in on these types of things.

I know I made five deals in China last week.

My son, Zach, is a multi-billionaire now.

Right.

But it had nothing to do with you.

Oh, it had nothing to do with me.

No, I mean, I just happened to go over there and make sure.

My daughter, Ainsley, got a construction project on a bridge over a massive river, which is incredible.

She's five, but you should see her with the Lincoln logs.

She's incredible with Lincoln logs.

And they just looked at her and they said, you know what?

She's got it.

She's got what we need here.

That's the really unique thing here.

When you see what

the Bidens have pulled off, the brother is put on to a construction company board.

He has no construction experience.

This is a brand new company, and they get a $1.5 billion contract from the government.

It happens.

Sometimes you just see potential.

This person could build something, I think.

Probably.

When you see what the Bidens have done in China,

it's really horrifying to see that

how embarrassing and how corrupt our officials appear to be in other countries.

It's called good parenting, Glenn.

You help out your family.

Lori Laughlin told us all about this.

Okay.

You just go when you have a little bit of extra money, a little bit of extra power, you put that to use to help your kids.

What's wrong with that?

That's just called parenting.

We can all look to that as an example of how we should all live our lives.

Unfortunately, I think that's the mentality in Washington.

I think that's the way they sleep at night.

They're like, hey, look, everybody's doing it.

Yep.

And I'm just helping out my family.

But wait until you see.

We have, we have, we're becoming an oligarchy.

We really are.

And the oligarchs are the ones who are already in office or climbing the ladder.

Thank you very much.

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You know, Joe Biden always likes to remind people that he's just Joe Lunchbucket.

He's just,

you know, Lunchbucket Joe, just the average guy traveling on Amtrak.

You know, sure, they...

They named the Amtrak station after me, but I'm just like

the regular people, and I don't have an awful lot of wealth or anything like that.

This is so carefully crafted by Joe,

he doesn't realize that the American people are really kind of on to it.

And when you hear the details of what we're on to,

it's nothing but crony capitalism.

The guy who says, you know, we just got to get business out of government.

We've got to get the money to the people.

Well, his greatest political achievement is being the biggest crony capitalist ever in the office of the vice president.

This is the most corrupt man we've ever had in that office, and you will understand why beginning in one minute.

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And

even though the company, the natural gas company in Ukraine, was run by a notoriously corrupt oligarch.

And $1.5 billion of U.S.

money just simply disappeared through his fingers.

As bad as things look in the Ukraine, it's the tip of the iceberg compared to what Joe Biden and John Kerry set up for their sons while they were vice president and secretary of state.

I'm going to lay out quickly here the business deals in China.

And it wasn't just massive money changing hands.

This is profiting from companies that are actively trying to steal from and gain a competitive advantage over the U.S.

This is a challenge to our national security.

If anyone thinks that Joe Biden should be the candidate, I warn you, he is not on our side.

In 2010, well, let me start here.

2008, the election happened.

2009, Joe Biden was made the vice president.

Just

a few months later,

his son, Hunter, decided to start up a new business with Chris Hines.

That's John Kerry's stepson.

So now the vice president and the soon-to-be Secretary of State are in business together, and they're doing an investment fund.

Neither of them have any international investment background.

So they bring in John Kerry's former

finance manager for his campaign, who happened to be a roommate of theirs in college.

They come together and they form something

called Rosemont-Seneca Partners.

This is international investments.

So they do that in 2009, and then just a few months later, in 2010, Joe Biden is meeting with President Hu from China in Washington as part of a national security summit.

What?

Who?

You really have to, you want to go?

I just want to say President Hu.

Who?

Well, Joe Biden was in this meeting.

Hunter Biden was in China with his two Rosemont Seneca partners, John Kerry's stepson and the former campaign finance manager, Devon Archer.

The trio had meetings.

At the same time, Daddy is meeting with the head of China.

The sons are meeting now with the executives from China's largest banks, also China's sovereign wealth fund and their social security funds.

A year later, Joe Biden meets with Chinese officials for the U.S.

in the strategic, the China Strategic Economic Dialogue in Washington.

Two weeks later, Hunter Biden and his partners meet in Taiwan with the same Chinese financial guys that they met in China in 2010, plus some new ones.

In the book, Secret Empires, investigative author Peter Schweitzer says this to give you an idea

of

how important these meetings were.

Peter writes, it's as if the son of the Chinese premier held a single meeting with the heads of Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, J.P.

Morgan, Merrill Lynch, and Blackstone.

Except in this case, these were government entities with trillions of dollars of capital to invest.

In December 2013, Joe Biden traveled to China on an extended official trip with him.

He took on Air Force 2, Hunter Biden and his daughter.

They were greeted by a red carpet delegation and children bearing flowers, and vice president met with President Xi for over five hours, and they talked about everything.

Now, what was Hunter doing?

Well, Hunter was there for business as well.

We don't know exactly who he met with or what was discussed, but we do know that just two weeks later, a deal was signed with Rosemont Seneca and the Bank of China.

Now,

10 days after his trip, he does a closes on a deal with the Bank of China.

This is the most powerful financial institution in China.

And they form a joint venture with this startup company that has no one?

How's How's that possible?

Rosemont Seneca and the Bank of China merge and create a giant investment fund called BHR Bohai Harvest Rosemont.

Now think about this.

The government-owned Bank of China funding a business that it co-owned with the son of the U.S.

Vice President and the son of the U.S.

Secretary of State.

So this is Chinese government funding

and all of the Chinese government banking officials starting a new business in China

with the son of the vice president and the secretary of state.

That's quite amazing.

And since the bank is government-owned, it meant that business was completely intertwined with the communist government's goals.

But don't worry, nothing bad happened.

Well,

kind of.

Now think of all of the foreign firms that are trying to do business with China, that have established records.

How did Rosemont Seneca score this sweetheart deal?

And this is a sweetheart deal.

It got to operate in a brand new Shanghai free trade zone where it could use $1.5 billion.

billion dollars of Chinese government money to invest in China or any place in the world, Any place they decided that it would be good.

And they brought those dollars home to the U.S., which was really great.

First, however, they invested in

something else.

Now, remember, this is something that no other Goldman Sachs doesn't have this relationship.

How did this investment house with two guys that don't have any real experience in this, a brand new firm with very few, if any, clients at the time, get a deal that Goldman Sachs and J.P.

Morgan Chase can't get.

Well,

they made a couple of investments in technology.

In 2014, BHR, that's the

Hunter-Biden organization with the Bank of China, invested in the China General Nuclear Power Corporation.

Now, this is wonderful.

CGN is a Chinese government-owned nuclear power company that sold off a stake of the company to outside investors.

Now, here's the problem.

At the same time that Hunter Biden and his group with China is buying this,

CGN was under FBI investigation for stealing U.S.

nuclear secrets.

For years, CGN actively paid informants in the U.S.

to smuggle nuclear secrets out.

And the FBI probe, by the way, resulted in several Americans getting arrested.

Yet while the FBI probe was going on, the son of the vice president and the son of the Secretary of State, which was in business with the Bank of China,

bought a stake in this company being investigated.

Even after the arrests were made, Rosemont Seneca did not alter its relationship with BHR.

Neither did BHR divest from

the Chinese government-owned company that was stealing our nuclear secrets.

Now, how is that possible?

How did that not even get into the news?

Here's the other one.

In 2015,

BHR partnered with the Aviation

Industry Corporation of China.

Now, what is that?

The Aviation Industry Corporation of China is basically their Hewlett-Packard, or I'm sorry, they're not Hewlett-Packard, their

Lockheed Martin.

It is their big

aerospace company.

They build all of the fighters, all of the drones, absolutely everything.

So

here's Hunter Biden and Christopher Hines in a business deal with the Bank of China buying into AVIC,

the big military contractor.

And they decide that they need to invest in some new technology.

And so they bring some of that money home.

BHR bought 49% of a company here in America called Hennegies.

And AVIC bought 51%.

So now they own 100% of this great company here in America.

What do they do?

Well, this company makes precision parts, and they specialize in anti-vibration technology.

And the technology that they build and the parts that they make are known as dual use by the U.S.

State Department, which means you can also use this on bombers,

stealth bombers, and any kind of machine for war.

Now, usually that has to be approved by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S.

And it was approved.

Quickly, no big big deal.

But why not?

I mean, the Secretary of State's son and the Vice President's son are the ones doing the buying.

According to Sweitzer, a U.S.

intelligence community has long recognized that

the Chinese government is committed to acquiring Western machine tool technology, especially the kind of tech where it is difficult to distinguish between civilian and military use of the equipment.

Also, it wasn't like BHR didn't know what it was getting into when it said, oh, you know what?

We just did the nuclear deal, and that didn't turn out well.

Of course, we still have that.

But, yeah, they were spying against our country.

We don't want to do another deal like that.

A year before Hunter Biden and Christopher Hines decided to form a partnership with AVIC,

The Wall Street Journal reported how this

war plant stole technology related to the U.S.

Air Force's F-35 stealth fighter.

They stole that information and then they used it, manufactured the product, and put it into the stealth fighter for the Chinese.

That's the company that the vice president's son invests in.

and then helps buy a critical machining operation operation here in America.

So, if you're keeping score, the company owned by Hunter Biden and John Kerry's stepson and their friend became the Chinese conduit to buy U.S.

technology.

Their company was also used to invest in Chinese nuclear power, helping support the company that had worked for years to steal U.S.

nuclear secrets.

Meanwhile, as all of these deals and investments progressed, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Joe Kerry were having ongoing sensitive talks with the Chinese government about multiple issues, including China's effort in 2014 to control the South China Sea.

You tell me if Joe Biden,

if he loves his country more than self,

is he putting himself or his family over the safety and security of our nation?

In some cultures, this would not go well for somebody who is doing this to their own country.

It is incredible to me that none of this has even been on the news.

If Joe Biden runs and this is not uncovered by the mainstream media,

you will know

he's not alone.

If it's not covered by places like Fox, you will know, wow, the Democrats are not the only ones doing this.

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China and Russia, they are buying massive, massive amounts.

Yesterday was kind of a wake-up call

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It was just another one of those moments where you kind of look at what's happening in the news and you're like the Western world is being erased.

Now, yesterday it was just, we think, an act of God.

It was an accident on

Notre Dame.

However, it was very symbolic of our faith and our culture and everything just going away, burning down.

Our currency is following in the same path as Venezuela, except Venezuela didn't have us, it didn't have what we have, which is the world's reserve currency.

If you look at Venezuela now, it is worse, worse than it was in Zimbabwe.

That's saying something.

Once we start to lose world currency, once we start to lose the

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They started this process 110 years ago um and you know they when they did it they decided it was gonna take about six months to do uh just finished

i mean i'm sorry what they they just finished the work finally 110 years later they're all set now standard oil now the entire market has changed excuse me entire market has changed entire economy has changed um so this entire monopoly thing that they went after now 110 years later they're finally wrapping it up slightly longer than the six-month deadline they had to do it.

So it's

incredible.

It's incredible.

And, you know, they only really tried to enforce it one time in the 30s.

But eventually, I mean, things like ExxonMobil came out of this and everything.

It did eventually wind up being broken up, but there were still details being wrapped up.

And finally, we're all set on that one.

So if you were watching, if you had back in, you know, if you're 120, 130 years old, and you had a pool, you happen to have 2019 in that pool, you are the winner.

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Of course, now it's going to be difficult to collect because all your friends are dead.

But what a winner you would have been.

Yeah.

What a winner you would have been.

That's absolutely incredible.

And if that doesn't show you the power of money in politics.

And just complete inefficiency, right?

I mean, these things drag on and on.

We've talked about the, you know, the tax for a flood like 50 years ago, that there's still the flood has been cleared up, the water is no longer there.

They're still collecting the tax for it.

These things happen forever.

This is why you don't want government to control your health care or anything else in your life.

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I'm sorry.

Oh, we have Steve Katz on now.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

I thought it was Ami.

You were just teasing the interviewer, which is coming up in a while.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

Steve Katz is with us.

He is

the producer of Unplanned.

He was an attorney for a long, long time until he moved to California, went out to the entertainment industry, and now is the executive producer of the movie Unplanned.

Welcome to the program.

Steve, how are you?

Thank you, Glenn.

I'm great.

How are you?

Very, very good.

Congratulations on Unplanned.

Well, I appreciate it.

It's been a labor of love, and it's been pushing a boulder up a hill, as they say in Hollywood, which is what it takes to get any movie made.

But this one, particularly so, I think we had to push a boulder up a hill wearing swimsuits in the snow, frankly, to get this movie made.

But it has been kind of wildly successful and has exceeded our expectations.

And more than anything, it's been really successful in changing people's minds and at least opening them to the possibility of looking at some critical issues in a new way.

So, I will tell you, Steve, I didn't want to see this movie because I thought it would be,

you know, the same crappy fare of

Christian movie that was preachy and everybody who was not on the right side was evil.

And you guys did such a great job of making this not that kind of movie

where I think it does reach a wide audience.

I just talked to somebody last night who came up almost in tears and said, I have to thank you.

I brought my family to see Unplanned, and

I would never have gone.

And I took the kids and they're teenagers and they said,

our conversations about this are completely different now.

Well, that's right.

And I think, you know, so much of the credit goes to Abby Johnson because her amazing true story, which is the foundation for this film, is just incredible because she's someone who actually lived this story.

She began as an ardent feminist.

She was very pro-choice.

And over time, she evolved and she sort of saw what was happening.

And of course, the filmmakers, Carrie Solomon and Chuck Konzelman, are just incredible writers and directors.

And you mentioned earlier that so many of the films in the faith-based space tend to be not all that great.

And I've been involved in productions on both sides.

But what you find in the faith-based space, space, especially, is you'll get

people who

believe, you know, have the beliefs, but they don't really write well.

And on the other hand, you'll get people in Hollywood who see an opportunity, you know, just to make money, and they might be good writers, but they don't have the beliefs.

And with Carrie and Chuck, you sort of get both.

So, Steve, I want to talk to you a little bit about, you know, if a tree falls in the forest and no one's there to see it, did it really fall?

We have a situation to where, and it was really apparent with unplanned, you could not have advertising on

entire networks, Lifetime, Up TV, Hallmark, HGTV, USA, Food Network, Travel Channel, DYI, cooking channel.

You were not welcome anywhere.

So let me just talk about that first.

And Kay Love, a Christian Rock Station, no less.

How?

You know, Glenn, I think that people, frankly, are just afraid of this topic.

And

they're afraid of being tarnished, and they just don't want to touch it.

Frankly, we don't buy that argument because Hollywood embraces those sort of ads for

pro-abortion movies all the time.

And as we understand it, Sandra Bullock now has a property that she's going to be doing where she's going to play Wendy Davis, the Texas state legislator who ran for governor.

Does anyone really think that Google or

Twitter will not be running ads for that film?

No.

Astonishing.

Then what happened with Twitter on the opening weekend?

Yeah, so what happened with Twitter was we had had the account up for seven months, and we had had up to, I think, about 100,000 followers or so.

On opening weekend, the account was taken down on Saturday morning.

No explanation given.

All of a sudden, the account's not there.

So what happened was our lead actress couldn't even follow her own movie on Twitter, and it caused an uproar.

And to their credit, a lot of people, I think Shannon, Breem and Fox and others started tweeting Jack Dorsey saying, hey, what's going on?

So they ultimately restored it a number of hours later.

And the excuse that they gave us just doesn't hold water.

What they said was that they thought the account may have been linked to someone who was a bad actor and had had a different account taken down.

And so I have an abundance of caution, you know, they took down our account.

But

that really sort of smells because the account had been up for seven months, and it's just not a coincidence that they take it down on opening weekend.

So you had to go to Congress, did you not, and testify?

Well, yes, our director, co-director Chuck Cosmo, went to Congress.

He spoke before a Senate hearing with Senator Cruz, and the topic was big tech censorship of conservative ideas.

And by the way, it's not just Twitter.

We try to run banner ads on Google, and Google advertises the banner ads as a service that's open to anyone for any viewpoint, any legitimate viewpoint, and they simply refuse to accept our banner ads.

And to make the situation worse, and this is really kind of incredible, the day after Chuck testified, Google, when you did a Google search on the film Unplanned, it brought up the poster, and next to it it described the film as drama slash propaganda.

I kid you not.

Oh my gosh.

This is the day after he testified before the Senate.

And, you know, we immediately then, you know, started checking to see what they were doing with other films.

And if you can believe it,

the classic Nazi propaganda film, Triumph of the Will, by Lenny Rifenstahl, they didn't mark that as propaganda.

They did not.

It was not marked as propaganda.

That's the quintessential propaganda film.

It's a Nazi propaganda film, right?

How did they do Inconvenient Truth with Al Gore?

Was that propaganda?

Oh, you mean the snow hasn't all melted on?

No, it hasn't.

No, my God.

It's still there.

You know, no, but any of the Michael Moore movies, any of the Shea Guevara movies were not listed as propaganda.

So once again, you know, we raised an outcry and they rectified it.

But the question is, why should we have to do that to begin with?

Why can't they just be a neutral arbiter?

So so, Steve, you know, as we try to break through barriers,

the barriers just keep changing and they just put a new one in front of us.

I mean, you know, first

you have to make the movie yourself.

So we do.

Then you have to get it into movie theaters.

And we do.

Then you have to advertise.

Well, we're losing advertising.

We're losing the battle online.

And we're being subjected to what I would call digital ghettoization.

It's the same thing the Germans did to the Jews.

Hey, talk all you want just behind this wall so nobody will see you or hear you.

That's a problem.

Yeah, it is a problem.

And it's just so rife with hypocrisy because when you think about how even to this day so many voices on the left continue to lament the blacklisting of the 1940s and they lionize people like Dalton Trumbo and Paul Robeson who were denied a platform and denied the opportunity to to work because of their opinions.

And so many of these same people on the left are doing the exact employing the exact same tactics today.

And it's like, why?

Why are you afraid to engage in these battle of ideas?

So what do you

what do you think we do?

What should we do?

Have you heard any good solutions?

How do we fix this?

Because we're really only playing to our own tribe.

If you're only hearing about it on Fox News, CBN, the Glenn Beck program,

you're preaching to the choir.

Well, you know, it is an uphill battle, but I think we have to kind of remain steadfast.

And I think, you know, look,

victory is for the bold, so you have to fight.

And the good news is, in this day and age with the technology, it's never been easier for somebody to create a message and get it out there.

Now, the flip side of that is because it's never been easier, there's a proliferation of stories and film, so it takes more to rise above and get noticed, and that's where you do need the marketing.

But, you know, you can, I will say this, Facebook actually has been very even-handed and fair with us.

Really?

Yeah, the page has been up for months, and we've had 17 million trailer views.

And I've had some friends say to me, when I told them that the film was on Facebook, they were like, oh my God, how did you manage to keep that up?

So, you know, look, I don't know if we slip through the cracks, but, you know,

when Ted Cruz has these hearings, when we continue to put pressure on, I think that's what we have to do.

And again, I just think that

we have to not be afraid to push for what we want and make sure, you know, stories are told on both sides.

What are you going to do with the film now?

Well, it's out in theaters.

You know, we we have an A-plus cinema score, which only a couple of films receive every year.

That means people who actually saw the movie loved it.

And that people that I think span the ideological divide.

Hang on, hang on just a second on that.

Let me ask you this.

Did you at any time worry that this thing would be

either a dirge or it would be one of those things where people would think, oh, geez, I should go see that movie, but I just don't want to go sit through an abortion movie.

I mean,

you hit the right balance to where you actually feel good leaving the audience or leaving the theater?

You know, it's an interesting question.

I don't know whether we considered that possibility.

I think the filmmakers just made the movie that they thought needed to be made, and they trusted that, you know, if they did it right,

people would come, and they have.

So, you know,

we opened in fourth place, defying all expectations, opening weekend.

We were in seventh place last weekend.

And now in our third weekend, we were in 10th place on Sunday.

And, you know, we're competing with big studio tempoles like Shazam and Captain Marvel and Gumbo.

So, you know, the next step is going to be DVD and streaming.

And we've had a lot of the people approach us because they want to get those right.

So we're in the midst of discussing those deals now.

So hopefully, you know, in the next three to four months, we'll be out there on DVD and more people will have access to that.

Any idea of Netflix, Amazon?

Well, you know, we don't know.

We hope so.

I can't imagine why not.

We hope so.

You know, if they really represent all of America, you would think that they would want to have this movie on and they would want to show both sides.

So we're optimistic.

But, you know, if we get stonewalled, then I guess we'll pursue it ourselves.

If you get Stonewalled, let me know, will you?

I absolutely will.

And, you know, the filmmakers are very grateful for your support.

And you've been a real stalwart, so thank you.

No, not a problem.

Thank you very much, Steve.

Appreciate it.

Steve Katz, executive producer of Unplanned, which is still out in movie theaters.

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I did.

I did my duty.

You did your duty.

First episode or moment I've ever watched of Game of Thrones last night.

What'd you think?

I was very confused.

You're very confused.

Yes, I have some notes.

Okay, so here's Stu's review of Game of Thrones.

Oh, there we go.

Good Game of Thrones music.

Okay, first of all.

This is nothing like good Game of Thrones music.

No, this is about the level of my review here.

Okay, good, good, good, good.

The theme animation's really long.

Really long.

I believe it's still going from the episode I was watching.

Okay, not important to the storyline.

Okay, so I kind of came up with a cast of characters.

All right, good.

There's Blondie in white.

You got uglier black hair woman.

You've got guy with goatee.

You've got guy with beard.

You've got angry elf.

Red hair woman and the boy band looking teen.

Okay.

Now, if I'm following it right,

the boy band-looking teen is the son of the goatee guy, maybe?

Not sure about that.

I think, I'm pretty sure that Winterfell is a place.

Yes.

Okay.

The goatee guy may have been the king of Winterfell?

No.

Okay.

Well, but he's not anymore.

He was, but then wasn't not anymore.

Well, yes.

Yes.

Okay.

The north.

Can you stop this music?

This music is.

No, this is worse than this is worse than your review.

This is rocking.

The north might be the same as Winterfell.

That's the same place, maybe?

Same area.

Okay, yeah.

Winterfell is in the north.

Okay.

And by the way, spoiler alerts here, just in case we get into anything.

So far, you...

So far, I haven't really understood much.

Okay.

So my understanding now is that Angry Elf, Goti, Blondie, and Redhead are all on the same team?

Yes.

Okay.

Blondie seems to be like a Siegfried and Roy of Dragons.

Yes.

Okay.

All right.

I'm going to go.

Angry Elf may have been married to Redhead?

Yes.

Okay.

People seem a lot more attractive than I would expect from their difficult circumstances.

Yes.

Okay.

Yes.

All right.

Goatee and ugly peasant girl hug and they like the same sword.

That happened at one point.

Yes, it's yes.

Okay.

You've missed.

You've missed some of the nuance of that relationship.

Okay.

Goatee guy and ugly girl like the same sword.

I guess, yes.

Okay, so there's another queen.

She looks kind of like a female Mick Jagger.

Maybe combined with Robin Wright.

You know who I'm talking about?

Okay, maybe not.

Great line.

If you want a whore, buy one.

If you want a queen, earn one.

That's a great freaking line.

Yeah, that's a great line.

Is that the Mick Jagger looking?

That's the Mick Jagger lady.

Yes.

Okay, so I'm right on that.

A guy is interrupted when having sex with three women, and he seems to be only moderately upset about it, which I feel like

you'd be a little more.

I zip past those, so I don't know.

Okay, okay, that happened.

Let's see.

Really impressive teeth for the era, I thought

was something.

Um, some guy in a wheelchair and the boy band guy looked back at each other at the end, and that seemed important.

I don't know about that.

And then

I now know okay.

And then finally, I

at one point I did fall asleep, and I just woke up to someone being lit on fire while alive.

Okay, screaming.

Well, I kind of look for if you missed Game of Thrones, why even watch it?

I mean, you got the whole thing, you got the whole thing, and oh, really?

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I did not, but I give him credit for doing it.

I do too.

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Yep, they were fair and they asked tough questions.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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Do you have it?

Yeah, they're all out now.

So

we'll start from the bottom here.

Wayne Messum.

You might not know him.

He's running for president.

He's the mayor of Miramar, Florida.

He's not in the top tier, I wouldn't say.

Only thing out of the sentence that says, what's his name?

Say that sentence again.

Who is it?

Wayne Messum.

He's running for president.

He is the mayor of Miramar, Florida.

Not a top-tier contender.

So the words that I understand in that sentence, president, running for, and Florida.

Oh, Wayne.

You know Wayne Newton.

Oh, Wayne.

Okay, good.

There you go.

So he raised under $100,000.

So he was in last place.

Julian Castro,

or Julian Castro, $1.3 million.

Go up to, let's see, Tulsi Gabbard, $1.9.

Hickenlooper, $2 million.

Inslee, $2.3.

Andrew Yang, $2.4 million.

Gillibrand, $3 million.

Booker, $5 million.

Klobuchar, $5.2.

Elizabeth Warren, $6.

Budijej, $7.1.

Beto O'Rourke.

or Bob Frank O'Rourke,

$9.4 million.

Kamala Harris, $12 million.

Bernie Sanders, $18 million.

By the way, way, Donald Trump, $30 million, in excess of $30 million.

And he didn't use very much last time.

No, he didn't.

This is a difference from 2016, where he was really running on a skeleton campaign.

I mean, all that talk was real.

This time he has a legit campaign with all the bells and whistles.

And, I mean, it's going to be interesting to see this operation run with that sort of backing.

Now, Bernie Sanders on a town hall on Fox, which I applaud Bernie Sanders for

being who he is and being willing to say when it was racist, apparently, to call people a socialist.

I guess I don't know how I would be racist by calling him a socialist, but it was racist at one point to point out that people were socialists.

He said he was a socialist anyway, so I have respect for him of just being who he is.

Yes, I went and vacationed, you know, in Cuba, my honeymoon in the Soviet Union.

Who didn't do that?

Well, nobody.

But here he is in the town hall last night on tax breaks.

Listen to this.

Your taxes do show that you're a millionaire.

You did make a million in 2016, 2017.

You're right at the 561 in 2018.

But your marginal tax rate was 26%

because of President Trump's tax cuts.

So why not say, you know, I'm leading this revolution.

I'm not going to take those.

There you go.

But Dari, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

And then rewind it just a little bit so I can get that again.

You know what's amazing?

He laughs.

He goes,

Why?

Why, Bernie?

If you believe that the government does the most good

over charity and everything else, you are saying we need to have more money

into the government and higher taxes because of these millionaires and billionaires.

You are a millionaire.

Most people would claim that somebody who makes $1.2 million

is a millionaire.

So you're a millionaire.

You're one of the rich, the wealthiest 1%.

Is that not even beyond 1%?

1.3 million?

I think that's in the

like 0.8, 0.6, something like that.

So

he's beyond the wealthiest 1%, and he scoffs at paying taxes voluntarily.

This is something I don't understand from socialists.

To be in the top 1% of U.S.

earners, a family, family needs an income of $421,926.

Family.

So what does an individual have to make?

1%.

Let's see.

The average income of the top 1% nationwide is $1.32 million.

So he's an average 1%er.

Okay, but he's a 1%er.

But you know what?

You know who's cracking down on him?

The high-income 1%ers.

That's who's cracking down on Bernie Sanders.

There's always someone.

There's always Bill Gates or something.

Somebody at the top, Jeff Bezos, is always cracking down on you.

So now listen to how he explains it.

And this is

really important for anybody who is thinking about socialism.

This is important for them to hear and you to point out and just say, okay, can you explain this?

He believes the government does good things.

He believes that healthcare should be taken care of, et cetera, et cetera.

And it's not perfect, but it never will be because it will always be government.

But But if you believe that and you say, I'm leading this revolution, why isn't he taking everything over, let's even say 250,000?

That's still a good life for him and his wife.

You're still well under the top 10%.

Right.

So why doesn't he just take 250,000 and the rest of it just give it to the government?

Right.

I mean, you could say, what do they make in the Senate?

187, something like that?

It's less than 200,000.

That's plenty for them to live on, though.

Right.

So you take that and all your book,

your book earnings go to not the charity, not charity, but the government.

Right.

Because, you know, people are wrecking Bernie over his very paltry charity.

Well, he gets into that, and I want to play that too.

But the first part is, why not give it to the government?

And their excuse will be, well, because the government is inefficient.

Yeah.

Okay.

Welcome to the conservative movements.

Thank you, Cher.

However, they'll say, well, it just has to be done right.

Okay.

So then why not give that to charity?

Any kind of charity?

Anything that he says he cares about?

Education, college education.

Why didn't he put how many people through college last year with just that extra money?

Now, listen to his response.

Take those.

Because people don't.

I am, I pay the taxes that I owe.

And by the way, stop.

stop.

He pays the taxes that he owes.

This is the problem with progressivism and socialism.

It goes against human nature.

People are laughing because they know no one pays more than they have to.

So when he goes,

He's saying human nature is, you don't pay more than you have to.

Why would I?

And everybody thinks it's a funny question to keep asking.

It's so obvious, and it's so obviously true.

It is so ingrained in human nature that you would never, ever do that.

But he goes back and says, I paid what I was supposed to pay.

Well, that's not what a leader does.

That's not what a leader does.

That's Donald Trump's answer.

When they asked Donald Trump, you know, hey, well, your tax records, blah, blah, blah.

He says, I paid what I was supposed to.

And yeah, I did get breaks here and there.

I used the system.

Right.

But that's consistent with Donald Trump's ideology.

Exactly right.

Right.

He believes in smaller taxes.

So

if you're offended by Donald Trump saying, I pay as little as I possibly can, I work the system.

Okay, as long as it's within the law, fine.

That's good.

That's what you're supposed to do.

You work the system and pay as little as you possibly can within the law.

This is what Bernie Sanders is saying.

But at the same time, he'll call Donald Trump

an evil rich guy who doesn't want to pay his fair share.

I thought it was your patriotic duty.

Why would you scoff at patriotic duty?

Play on.

Why don't you got Donald Trump up here and ask him how much he pays in taxes?

Wow, that was a great point.

So he says,

I paid what I was supposed to pay.

Why don't you get Donald Trump up here?

Well, that's what he said throughout the entire campaign.

He pays what he has to.

I mean,

he would say the same thing you did, which is revealing about you.

Because, again, for Donald Trump, it's consistent with his ideology.

It's not consistent with the ideology of Bernie Sanders to not give money to the government.

Now, he also says that,

and it was right after this, they say, you gave 3.2%

to charity last year.

And he's proud of that.

Yes, I did.

My wife and I, we love giving to charity.

3.2%?

3.2%.

That's what you gave.

I consider that to be consistent with Bernie Sanders' ideology.

His position is that the government's supposed to do everything.

So why is he giving to charity?

Joe Biden never gave anything to charity.

But if you're not giving to the government, right, you got to also just give to the government instead.

I mean, people have to do their fair share, right?

So if you're not giving to the government, then you should be giving to a charity unless you think, hey, 26% of my income for the federal government is more than enough.

I'm paying what I'm supposed to pay to the government, and that's more than enough.

But then how can you be for higher taxes?

Right.

I mean, like, let's

Bernie Sanders has an opportunity to actually implement his plan with at least himself.

He can pay 52% income tax himself.

He can do it.

He could just do it.

Now, my idea of what I should be paying, I can't implement myself because I want to pay zero.

So I can't do that.

They won't let me do that.

But they will let Bernie pay 52%.

Why wouldn't he enact that?

I would be happy to do it.

I would pay.

I would pay, honestly.

If you could set it, you wouldn't set it at zero.

I would set it at zero, yes.

You'd set it at zero?

I would.

There's plenty of other tax revenue coming in from other sources, and I would not tax income.

It's a terrible thing to tax.

You're discouraging work.

You're discouraging discouraging productivity.

All right.

So, but you'd have to have massive changes on that.

You'd have to have massive changes.

As far as cost goes, the cost of the government.

Yes.

I mean, I think that's...

I think that is about ⁇ it's about 12 or 13 years, if I'm off by a little bit.

But if you were to zero out the income tax for people, you would have to roll back to the spending of about 12 or 13 years ago.

So you'd go back to late Bush administration level spending.

You don't think we can do that?

Really?

You don't think we can handle that?

We can't run this country on late Bush administration spending.

I guess we could.

You could.

So

I would tax it at zero.

And even if you were going to go with something else, I was thinking just, you know,

the studies always show that it's somewhere between 15 and 19 percent is what comes in anyway.

Is what comes in no matter what you do.

So taxing a flat 16 percent, you know, there's nothing wrong as long as you're not raising all the other taxes, just 15 percent or 16 percent, something like that, I don't mind paying

an income tax to be able to

further the things, the structure that we need to further.

I think what you mean to say here, if I may put words in your mouth, is you don't mind paying a tax

to support the government, right?

We have defense needs, right?

We all understand that.

But we have plenty of money to pay for all the things the Constitution wants the government to do without an income tax.

We didn't have an income tax for most of our history.

I would love to see Republicans get on board with repealing the 16th Amendment.

I would, too.

Going for it.

You know, there's all these wussy rules.

They're like, oh, well, let's cut the rate by 0.3%.

How about going for it here?

The government has plenty of money, and it also is one of those things where you have to cut spending, obviously, or we would go into insane debt in that scenario.

But I would love that.

I would go to zero.

I want to bring that back up and play something from a Democratic nominee that he said yesterday.

It was Buddha Judge.

And he said something that I thought, hmm, no, you're stating this incorrectly.

And it goes right to what you just said about the Republican.

You'd love to see them go after the 16th Amendment as part of their agenda.

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I want to play a yesterday, Buddha judge on what most Americans don't want.

Listen to this.

The Republicans in the Senate changed the number of justices on the Supreme Court.

They changed it to eight until they took power.

And then they changed it back to nine.

So, you know, a lot of what we're talking about is no less a shattering of norms than what the other side has done, but we're proposing it to do it in a way that is more inclusive, I would say, more constitutionally sound, more appropriate, and will just, by the nature of the checks and balances in our system, have to go through a very thoughtful and rigorous process.

I think that if they try tinkering with the system, again, they're already doing it under the table in so many ways, but if they try doing it more nakedly, they're going to encounter resistance because most Americans don't want this.

Most Americans don't want the conservative agenda that we're now seeing, the extreme agenda.

Okay, first of all, I find it amazing as a guy who says, let's count all the votes.

If they start tinkering around the edges, they're not tinkering around the edges.

This guy is talking about getting rid of the Electoral College, which is fundamental

in our system of government.

Absolute fundamental.

So they're not

dinking around the edges.

They're going right to the heart of it.

So it's a little hard to swallow this from Buddha Judge.

Now, here's what I found interesting.

He said, most people don't want the extreme conservative agenda.

Can somebody tell me what that agenda is?

I know exactly what

the democratic agenda is.

I know what it is.

Socialism, high taxes,

huge government,

government welfare, government health care, even to the extreme of the end of the free market.

Can you tell me what the Republican agenda is?

You know, build the wall-ish.

I mean, like, obviously, when they've had the opportunity to build the wall, they haven't done it.

They're in control for two years and we're not able to do that.

But I would say that that seems to be a priority of the president and seems to be a priority of at least border security in some capacity.

I mean, I think you'd say

don't go for the Trump agenda because that would be like the Buddha Judge agenda.

Right.

What's the conservative Republican agenda?

Well, I think right now it's whatever Trump says.

I don't think that there's a separation at this point.

The Republican Party

a mechanism designed for good, and it's been good in a lot of ways, but it's designed specifically to support Trump's policies.

It's always been that way, the president's policy.

I think, generally speaking, it's been true.

They have not come through in many cases, by the way, for President Trump.

I mean, I think on Obamacare, probably most clearly, then they could have easily done that and didn't.

So this is not

a criticism of Trump.

It's just that they don't.

There does not seem to be any room for anyone to speak up, with the exception occasionally of foreign affairs issues.

I would say that they spoke up pretty loudly on Syria.

They were, you know, they've opposed some of the foreign affairs stuff.

But I mean, other than that, there doesn't seem to be much of an agenda at all separate from the president.

And some of those things, like the judges, you know, that I would say that that's a priority.

The border is a priority.

But there's not a lot of dreaming going on.

The tax cut's a perfect example of this.

I mean, I'm talking about repealing the 16th Amendment.

You know, Ted Cruz's

campaign policy was a 10% flat tax.

Donald Trump's campaign policy was far more aggressive than what they actually ran through Congress.

And the congressional one, like, with the, you know, there was a decent cut in the corporate tax, and everything else was something that Jeb Bush could have pushed through.

And so, as far as an agenda goes, I don't know.

I feel like they're just fighting these battles day to day.

What's in the news today, they just go, oh, we're on the other side of them.

They are.

Donald Trump, since the Miller report has come out, has moved to offense.

Yes.

The Republicans, I don't know if they're offense or defense.

I think they're on the bench the entire time.

I don't know what their agenda is.

No one has really articulated what the party really stands for and what we're trying to achieve.

I know what the Democrats are trying to achieve.

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You know, what's amazing to me is the University of North Carolina, Duke, UNC,

is

the place that was on fire

because it was racist.

Except it wasn't.

But the press covered it like crazy without any facts.

Once the facts came out, oh,

next.

Now Duke, University of North Carolina, is having another problem, except this time no one's paying attention to it, except Ami Horowitz, a friend of the

program and documentary filmmaker.

Ami, welcome to the program.

Always a pleasure, Glenn.

So

what is happening at Duke?

Look,

let me back up, kind of explain kind of the genesis of what happened.

I was sitting on Bondi Beach in Australia, and I was just scrolling through the internet, and I saw this conference.

joint conference between Duke and UNC, ostensibly about the conflict in Gaza.

So immediately I knew, okay, this is clearly going to be an Israel hate fest.

So I went there to kind of cover it to see kind of how anti-Israel it was.

Was it going to be balanced at all?

What I didn't expect to find was absolute and egregious open anti-Semitism throughout this conference.

And I can't understate how big this conference was.

It's a joint conference between Duke and UNC, two of the most prestigious schools in the country.

Every major department and school sponsored this the school of law, the school of medicine, the school of pharmacy department, every single department and school sponsored it.

And it also got a quarter of a million dollar grant from the U.S.

government.

Oh my gosh.

For what?

For what?

For anti-Semitism.

For anti-Semitism, Glenn.

And I don't mean the anti-Semitism of, hey, you know, I hate Israel, so therefore I'm an anti-Semite, right?

That's one thing.

And by the way, just to be clear, if you hate Israel at the exclusion of other quote-unquote bad actors, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, by the way, just so you know, you're an anti-Semite.

But let's not have that debate or argument.

I'm talking about, I went to the conference and I started asking students and administrators and professors a simple question.

I said, does Jewish money control the U.S.

government?

I probably talked to 40 or 50 students, and with the exception of two, and I know that number because it was only two, Everybody else said, of course, Jewish money controls the U.S.

government.

They control decisions around the world.

A basic,

one of the most damaging anti-Semitic tropes you could imagine.

If it only stopped there, Glenn.

Because the next thing that happened is they had the main entertainment for the evening, right, that they flew in from Israel with a Palestinian Israeli rapper, an Israeli Arab, but they call themselves Palestinian Arabs now.

Palestinian Israelis now.

So

he gets up there and he proclaims to this packed auditorium, packed.

He says, this is my anti-Semitic song.

I'm thinking, okay, I don't know, maybe he's joking.

What the hell is he talking about?

And then he starts to rap, this horrific rap, and he continues to egg the audience on by saying, guys, you're not being anti-Semitic enough.

Let's bring it up to it, Ken.

Let's take us up to Mel Gibson level's anti-Semitism.

And the crowd is going wild.

They're singing and cheering him along the song.

And he ends

this thing with, guys, you guys are beautifully anti-Semitic.

Thank you for not doing, letting me be anti-Semitic alone.

Okay.

And the whole while, the head of the guy who brought the conference to put the conference together, the guy who works for UNC, a professor there, an administrator there, he's sitting there smiling the entire time.

Glenn, it was one of the most egregious, disgusting events I have ever witnessed in my life.

And you know, I've seen some bad stuff.

Okay, I'm going to play the audio.

This is part of the audio in the video that you captured at Duke UNC.

I'm Ami Horowitz and I'm here on the campus of the University of North Carolina where UNC and Duke are holding a joint conference on the conflict in Gaza.

So I came here to get a sense of the perspectives of the people attending the conference.

This was a major conference with hundreds of students, professors, and administrators who spent a weekend bashing Israel and whitewashing the terrorist organization, Hamas.

If it only stopped there.

This is a professor who I asked about her views on the spate of attacks in New York by black teens on Jews and synagogues.

Blacks have a lot of also reason to be angry at Jews now.

The conference wouldn't allow me to film inside, so my sound guy sent me up with a hidden mic.

With very little prodding, the veneer of being anti-Israel in an effort to hide their hatred of Jews was easily scratched away and evolved into open anti-Semitism.

I first asked them about the most powerful modern anti-Semitic trope.

Does Jewish money control U.S.

government policy?

US government policy.

Oh absolutely.

The Jewish lobby is influencing our government and how that's changing US policy.

They're influencing our politics.

You know,

the money rules the world.

Yeah.

No, meaning like

makes the decision.

I appreciate your courage.

Oh, this is interesting what you are doing.

Yeah.

yeah, impressive.

I'm Jewish.

I don't know.

Yeah, I could already tell.

You didn't have to tell me.

I don't take offense to that at all.

No, no, I mean, I appreciate people who are

questioning their own background.

Look at the treatment of Ethiopian Jews, right?

Jews that are supposedly in the club, but they're Ethiopian.

They're black.

Refugees who

come to Israel, assuming it's a Jewish state, have actually been sterilized in the past.

You're telling me that

the Jewish government sterilized Ethiopian Jews coming into Israel.

That's crazy.

And then the featured entertainment for the event came on stage.

He proceeded to...

Well, let's let the video do the talking.

I know it sounds RB stuff, but

don't think of Rihanna when you sing it.

Think of...

Don't think of Beyonce.

Think of Mel Gibson.

Oh my god.

Go to that anti-Semitic.

Just try it together, because I need your help.

I cannot be anti-Semitic alone.

Oh!

I'm in love with the Jew.

Oh!

I'm in love with you!

Oh!

I'm in love with you.

I'm in love with you.

You look beautifully anti-Semitic.

This is crazy.

I'm gonna have to ask you to leave.

Why?

The director does not want you.

You know, he's the chief end up being, so I'm going to have to ask you.

But I have to ask you to lose.

Are we causing trouble?

We don't understand what your intentions are.

We're actually asking you to leave the police starting.

Just days after the conference, swastikas were found on campus.

38 of the largest departments and schools at the University of North Carolina sponsored this event.

It also got a federal grant of nearly a quarter of a million dollars.

They should all be ashamed.

Wow.

Ami,

that is

crazy.

How,

I mean,

as somebody who knows history, and you being Jewish, you know this history.

Were you afraid?

I mean, was this like

was this something that it like goes right to the center of your being of, oh my gosh, here it is again?

It goes right to my core.

Look,

as you were alluding to,

Jewish history is replete with pogroms, massacres that have occurred because of events like this.

Honestly, now I'm not saying this is going to lead to a pogrom, although it did lead to a number.

You know, when I released that video, there was that one,

I mentioned the incident where they were printing swastikas in some dormitories, but in the days that followed the release of the video,

the anti-centrism has increased, and there were anti-Semitic posters put up in the library.

But these are the kind of events that lead to significant problems for Jews.

And what's so important to point out here is this did not happen.

I know this is obvious, but I think it bears repeating.

This did not happen in some kind of Ku Klux Klan rally that happened to O'Connor.

This is at one of our two of our most prestigious universities in this country.

And, you know, we're used to the usual suspects of anti-Semitism coming from neo-Nazis, radical Islamists, right?

We all know that.

I've reported on it, right?

We know that that's clear.

But what we're seeing, and this is not a trend that's, by the way, happened over the last two years.

It's over a 10-year trend.

We're seeing that this is coming from the left, okay, from the alt-left, if you will.

And we're not just seeing it in the halls of academia.

We're seeing it in the halls of Congress.

You don't think Rashid Talib, Elon Omar,

they're not partly responsible for this?

Of course.

They're allowing this.

You know, I love when they blame the president for allowing coarseness into our dialogue.

Okay?

This is nothing compared to what we're hearing from the halls of Congress.

And now we're seeing the halls of academia.

And yes, this is something that troubles me to my core, Glenn.

Ami, I, uh,

you know, one of the reasons why we didn't stop the Holocaust is,

in my opinion,

FDR was a racist and a bigot

in in many ways.

He was with the Japanese and he was with Jews.

And Morgenthau tried to talk to the President about it, but FDR's response was always the same.

And it was the same in Europe and in Germany.

And I heard it on that tape, and it chilled my blood.

Well,

these fill-in-the-blank on the videotape it was blacks, have a lot of reasons to be angry at the Jews.

That is exactly what was said in Germany, then Europe, and in our own White House when we did nothing.

Well, they brought it upon themselves.

You know, they got greedy and

they might start talking about the bankers.

That's a ruse.

They mean all Jews.

They mean all Jews.

Ami,

I pray that people will wake up and I thank you so much for your bravery.

God bless you.

It's my always my pleasure.

Thank you.

Thank you, Glenn.

Ami Horowitz from Ami AMI Horowitz.com.

AmiHorowitz.com.

You can help finance his documentaries and his

truth-telling.

He goes out, and he, I mean, he is a brave, brave guy.

And

boy, after looking at that, things are going to become more dangerous as the days go on.

yesterday may have been a blessing.

May have been a blessing because it

was an example of what's happening to us.

Our faith is burning down to the ground.

Our culture is burning down to the ground.

It may have been a blessing because, as we think so far, and I believe this, that it was just an accident from the construction.

And that may have been a blessing because if it would have been Islamic terror, it would have absolutely set the entire continent on fire.

We would probably be talking about more troops and more bad things today

in Europe had that been an Islamic extremist that did that.

But it is also a blessing because hopefully it will wake

even a handful of people up to what is coming.

Turn back to God.

Turn back to God.

Evil is growing in strength, and God's people are asleep.

Turn back to God and beg his forgiveness, and he will heal our land.

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So you're just going to go the whole show then?

That's the plan, I guess.

That's the whole plan.

Yes, the plan was to do the whole show today.

No, I'm saying doing the whole show without mentioning your hateful comments.

What?

I mean, this is so typical of you.

Just avoid it the whole time.

I'm not going to let you get away with it.

I let you get away with it for two hours and 50 minutes.

Okay, what was my hateful comments?

You are trending nationally right now.

And they've got you this time.

Oh, dude.

They got you this time.

You're dead.

What did I say?

You said Glenn Beck compares Notre Dame Fire to 9-11.

This is their World Trade Center.

That's not the same at all.

First of all, there's two buildings at the World Trade Center, not one.

That's number one.

Number two, I don't know if you know this Islamic extremist did the whole 9-11 thing.

And then here you are.

I guess you think that's what happened here in Notre Dame?

I started the show with debunking that.

We started the show with debunking that.

Sure.

But if you watch here on the show, here's what I hear.

If you said, I'm really trending nationally on this,

this is insane.

Here's what I said.

It was their 9-11.

When I watched this, I even said on the air today,

maybe it was just me, did anybody feel the same way?

When I watched that tower, that spire fall yesterday in the flame and the smoke, I had the same feeling I had on 9-11.

I mean, this was theirs.

They're watching

this icon.

As someone who doesn't enter this moment despising you, it just, to me, you said it's two iconic buildings collapsing in fire.

That's like, that's what I got out of it.

Yes.

That's what I got.

They're trying to read something else into it, I guess.

No, no, wait.

We wait for the facts.

So far, it looks like it was construction.

I'm, you know, 90, 99% there.

I want to see the evidence.

Yeah, they haven't released the final cause yet.

Release the final cause.

I'm believing.

I'm taking them at their word.

Right.

As we should do.

I'm mourning.

I'm not angry about this fire.

I'm mourning this fire.

In fact, if anything, in some ways, it was a wake-up call.

Use it for goodness.

Use it as a wake-up call.

Oh, social media is just a joke.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.