The Pursuit To Love Our Enemies? | Guests: Tim Ballard & Arthur Brooks | 4/17/19

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He said, Glenn, would you read this?

We wanted to publish it, so it's up on the blaze now.

Our friend

is Tim Ballard, who is

the CEO or chairman, or I don't remember what you are, the CEO of

the Nazarene Fund.

And also, are you the CEO of

Operation Underground Railroad?

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joining us right away.

I want to go through the article.

The first two paragraphs are stunning for entirely different reasons, but let me just read the first two paragraphs.

A couple of weeks ago, I was called to testify before a subcommittee of the House Homeland Security Committee.

As former Homeland Security Special Agent Undercover Operator, I worked child trafficking cases for over a decade along the southern border.

I was there to testify about the sex trafficking threat that awaits vulnerable migrant children being brought into the United States.

Shortly after I began my testimony, the chairwoman of the committee politely but firmly, let me know that my testimony was irrelevant for this particular hearing, as this hearing was about the U.S.

government's policy of separating undocumented families on the borders and not about child trafficking.

As it is against hearing procedure for a witness to provide unsolicited comments to the members of the committee, I had to sit there in silence, yet with full knowledge that the chairwoman was wrong.

Yep.

Tim, how frustrating is that?

It's killing me because

these trafficking events are happening in so many places, and we're trying to wake the nations of the world up to the fact that it is happening.

Children are being abused.

It's the fastest growing criminal enterprise on the planet.

And yet, when it's right before us, and I'm there before the people who can change it, and I'm told,

we don't want to talk about that right now.

Tell me,

the numbers are staggering on what's happening at our border.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, the amount of of people, just the people coming across, record-breaking

undocumented migrants coming across into the United States.

But the part that's not being reported, because in the 90s and the 2000s, it was adult males looking for work, crossing the border.

Not anymore.

These are children.

Children are coming across by the thousands.

There's been over a 300% increase since 2017 alone.

And children being brought across the border who don't belong to the adult who has them.

So we said when

Congress was saying we can't hold children, I immediately got on the air and said, That is the worst thing that could happen.

That's the worst thing that could happen because grab a child and you're good.

The child is now the get out of jail free card for smugglers, for traffickers.

They're surrendering themselves and say, Look, I have a child in my hand, a passport in my hand.

Let me in.

And the guys on the border, they're great.

They understand.

And they're like, help us.

They're screaming to Congress.

I sat in hearings with the CBP commissioner who's saying, help us.

You are forcing us to turn these children over to whoever comes to get them.

We only have 20 days.

The courts have backed it up.

And we have 20 days to vet.

People coming in saying, hello.

I'm Uncle, like I said, I wrote me hot bed.

Hello, I'm Uncle George.

Little Isabel, six-year-old that you have in custody, is my niece.

They have to give the child to Uncle George.

They have no time to vet these kids.

You know, in contrast, you know, I adopted two children recently from Haiti.

It was over one year of them vetting me.

I've had three

top-secret clearances in my lifetime.

I'm the one who liberated those children in the first place.

And yet, I happily submitted myself and my wife and my family to an investigation to make sure we were well-suited to take care of children.

A year.

And

is giving our customs and border officials 20 days or less to vet whoever shows up for these children.

Oh, sure, they have to sign a document, right, that says, I will not hurt this child.

I will not traffic this child like you're checking out a library book.

And then it says a court date, you must bring this child back for either a deportation or asylum hearing on this date.

66% of those kids never are brought back for court.

They're gone.

All right.

So there are two scenarios that are happening with the kids.

One is they are just used and passed back and forth on the border.

Yes.

Right?

Yes.

They're kind of a mule, if you will.

Is that the right word?

Right.

Well, I say they're recycled.

They're the get-out-of-jail free card, basically.

And that's the best case, and it's abhorrent.

Children are being used as long as you have these kids.

And by the way, where are these kids coming from?

They're being kidnapped in Central America.

The separation of families isn't happening necessarily at the border.

It's happening well before they get to the border.

And that's the thing we're not seeing as a nation.

And so, these kids are basically the smugglers control all the routes.

First of all, you can't get in the country unless you go through a smuggler.

So, they just have to get these children.

It's not too hard to kidnap children in Guatemala or Honduras or Central America.

And they take these kids and they pair them with their clients, their clients being the people who want to be smuggled in.

And say, take this child, pretend this child is your

child, and guys, 20 days or less, you're out.

Because they have to let you out because the law of the United States, backed by recent court decisions,

forces forces CBP officials to release you within 20 days if you have this child in your hand.

That's the best case for these children who are being used this way.

And of course, the worst case is the smugglers say, and we have the New York Times even

about a month ago had a story, several stories, about how smugglers take these clients and decide, geez, I can make a lot more money with them if I just sell them for sex.

Or they use them, they rape them and get their money out of them

for what they're owed for the smuggling fee.

And so it's very easy to imagine a criminal organization that are smuggling people and they say, let's sex traffic them.

We can make more money.

The U.S., we are the demand.

We are the top demand for child sex in the world.

That is crazy.

So now we've set things up and all using our laws, right?

So now if you can imagine this, all a trafficker needs to do, if you get into their mind,

is say, look, I got to take this child.

As long as I can get this child across, and they'll, I mean, I saw a video, I don't know if you saw this video a few months ago, of

dropping the kids over the wall, over the fence, just dropping them, and then they know

Border Patrol will come get them and get them into safety.

Well, then they just call their friends up in the traffickers, their friends in New York, Phoenix, wherever.

Hey, go to the McCallan processing center, ask for Isabel Gomez.

She's six years old.

I just dropped her over the fence.

And so Uncle George shows up.

Hey, I'm Uncle George.

I got to pick up my niece.

They have to give the kid over.

It is absolutely insane.

And I couldn't get a word in Edgewise when I was called to testify on that very subject.

So now here's the interesting part.

1,700 children

in the last 12 months,

1,700 children have had the guts to say,

that's not my uncle.

That's not my dad.

1,700 100

documented cases in the last 12 months.

How many kids are not brave enough to say that?

How many kids have been told your family's in danger, your family's dead, whatever it is?

How many children

have the guts and the wherewithal to see a guy, an American with a badge, and say, help me?

How many?

There have been 1,700 in the last 12 months, and that number is only growing.

Oh, absolutely.

And the amount of people coming across, hundreds of thousands.

Just this year, I think we're close to half a million.

So, you know,

how many kids are here and in, and they're in our sex markets?

And we rescue them.

And

you've met some of our survivors, Glenn,

who came in as undocumented migrant children and were raped.

And this is not an exaggeration, over 20,000 times before we finally pulled them out of New York City or LA or wherever they're being held.

I mean, this is a massive sex market.

Again, the fastest growing criminal enterprise on the planet is human trafficking, and the United States is the number one demand for child sex.

So it's happening in our cities right here.

And the traffickers are laughing all the way because our laws are actually facilitating the trafficking event.

We've made it so much easier.

We've made it easy to come in.

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All right, so Tim Ballard is with us from Operation Underground Railroad and the Nazarene Fund, and we're talking about the border and this absolute epidemic.

I have Arthur Brooks coming in in a minute, and Arthur is from the American Enterprise Institute, and this guy has a heart of gold and

knows how to

frame things to speak to people's hearts.

And I want to ask him about this because we're not framing the border in any way to connect with people's hearts at all.

And

what's happening is just overwhelmingly evil, just overwhelmingly evil.

You went to Congress prepared to give them two solutions.

They didn't want to hear it.

That's right.

So you never were allowed to even present these.

I was not allowed to, no.

No.

I remember the first time you told me what you really did.

You were undercover.

And the thing you said is, I can't do it anymore because we have solutions and our government ties our hands.

Can't do them.

So what are the two solutions on this?

Well, you know,

there needs to be many, many, many solutions.

The problem is so vast.

So I would just want to take baby steps.

Things we can do immediately.

Immediately.

Again,

this is not a catch-all.

It's not going to resolve everything.

But first of all, we have to have a vetting process in place.

I don't know what that looks like, but I would call on the good people on both sides of the aisle to come together, drop the politics.

It's so political.

I'm so tired of it.

Like,

can children transcend politics?

I think, I hope yes.

I hope that's the one thing that I hope.

I'm not really seeing it quite yet.

But can we just drop everything else and not say Trump or Republican or Democrat?

Just say children.

Children, how do we

help these children right now?

There has to be a vetting process.

Why wouldn't we?

Why wouldn't we, you know, if we found an abandoned child in New York City,

there would be a vetting process in place to make sure that if someone shows up to be mom and dad, there's going to be a process in place.

Why wouldn't we grant that same process to a migrant child who's completely innocent and scared to death, and we just want to get them home to their families?

Again, it's right now, it's a library book checkout system.

It's just signed for the kid.

It's horrible, you know?

And so a vetting process has to be put in place.

There should be an investigation,

judicial identity hearings where a judge can weigh in.

This is what we would do

with an abandoned child in New York City who's a U.S.

citizen.

Make sure that the person claiming to be mom and dad or uncle or aunt is, in fact, that thing.

You can do a DNA test.

DNA testing, yes.

Two hours.

I'm working with the companies.

It's cutting-edge technology.

We're using the technology in Haiti right now to bring children back to their parents who are lost.

Two hours.

It's rapid DNA technology.

We can determine whether they're related that quickly.

Get that deployed at our borders right now.

Right now.

There's no excuse right now.

And then the other solution, which can also happen right now, is let's temporary duty TDY judges, immigration judges, asylum judges, put those courts into our U.S.

embassies, particularly in Central America

where the floods are coming, where the caravans are coming out.

And because there's legitimate asylum seekers, and for them, we're forcing them really to drag their families and their children thousands of miles to see a judge through dangerous country, through a precarious border.

Causing chaos in everyone's life.

Right.

Just

put immigration asylum courts in our embassies.

Let them come there.

Now, someone's going to say, oh, well, they're in danger.

Well, if there is a credible threat, there's something we could do to help protect them in those cases.

But the most important thing it does is it takes the incentive out of the traffickers.

Because now the trafficker shows up with a kid who's not their kid, and the immigration official, the customs official says, I'm sorry, you need to go to your your country and see the judge.

No more 20-day loophole.

And so guess what?

They're not going to go to the judge because they don't have a legitimate claim.

And they're going to give up the scheme.

They're going to stop taking kids and using them as pawns or worse, as sex slaves.

So these are things that, Glenn, we could do now.

It doesn't take a whole lot of time to send, to create these immigration.

You just need a room and a judge, you know, and start building this up.

Didn't Mike Lee and Ted Cruz also

weren't they weren't they working together to try to come up with a way to put a whole bunch of judges down on the border to be able to, I mean,

this seems to me to be a better system,

but

we can do these things, and no one is talking about it.

They tried to do that, I think, about a year ago.

Nobody was willing to even talk about it.

That's right.

Well, it's funny bringing up Senator Lee.

I was with him, actually, and giving this very proposal after I got on my hearing where I couldn't talk.

I went to his office and said, Mike, help me.

They won't listen to me.

He's like, well, I'll listen to you.

What do you need?

And And so we're now moving forward on the Senate side to get this bill passed to make these things happen immediately.

So Senator Lee is definitely engaged.

Is this the first time that this has happened to you in Congress where they just were not interested, that it was a show trial?

No, the other time

I was testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and Lindsey Graham was the chair, and he let me say what I needed to say.

But this time it was clearly a political thing.

I could tell.

I've been open about the fact that barriers

and walls, we're not supposed to say that word, but barriers of any kind clearly force traffic to ports of entry.

And again, my number one

concern are children.

I know how many children are smuggled traffic through wallless, barrier-less parts of the border.

So let's force the traffickers to go to where police are, to where customs officials are, and they're trained to look for children.

It's a very simple concept.

And yet that was, Glenn, this is so, and I briefed the president on the same concept.

We lost 1,000 donors.

Can you believe this?

1,000 people who used to help us rescue children

stopped becoming, like, gave up because I sat with...

The Commander-in-Chief of the United States.

And by the way, I would have given the same briefing to President Obama.

I worked under Bush 43.

Nothing's ever changed.

Everyone's always believed that barriers control traffic and help rescue children because it forces the children or the traffickers into the places where they can be rescued.

It's two plus two equals four.

And yet I go and give that testimony to the current President of the United States, and I lose 1,000 donors overnight.

Because

I thought to myself, is that where we're at where we hate one person more than we love rescuing children?

It's very discouraging.

You know, maybe we can gain 1,000 more today right now.

Yeah, I was going to say,

if you haven't pledged to help

ourrescue.org, Operation Underground Railroad, please, please do.

That number really saddens me as well.

You and I both believe that

the one thing America can come together on is slavery is bad.

Smuggling children, smuggling humans, bad.

You know, kidnapping children, bad.

And it's the one thing that we have seen over and over again that even the people who are the furthest apart can come together.

Absolutely.

And it's not political for me at all.

No.

At all at all.

Like I said, I would give the same testimony to anyone who called me.

I don't care from what party.

It doesn't matter.

It's simple solutions to rescue children.

And I know they work.

They will obviously work.

This is all I've been doing my entire life on that southern border.

So I am an expert.

Not in a lot of things, but in this, I'm an expert.

I know what will rescue children at the southern border, and I'll tell anyone who will listen.

And too many are politicizing it join us at ourrescue.org ourrescue.org tim as always good to have you thank you so much you can read his and please share it read his op-ed on theblaze.com read it and share it with everyone you know please

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Coming up, one of our favorite people, outgoing president of American Enterprise Institute, Arthur Brooks, joins us in studio.

That's coming up next here at the Glenn Beck program.

We are thrilled to have Arthur Brooks president of the American Enterprise Institute, at least for a little while longer.

He's leaving the organization that he started, and he's going to

become a professor at Harvard.

Welcome to the program.

Thank you, Glenn.

Great to see you.

Good to see you.

So we have to start with a very long time lie we've been living.

What is it?

Okay, Stu and I both

have a very difficult time.

And we just, for our friendship's sake, we want this out.

Okay, let's get it out there.

Let's get this fixed.

We both have the worst time

we call you Albert Brooks all the time.

This has to be

a nightmare of your life.

Yeah.

So two years ago, I was at sort of a camp thing for lots and lots of guys and we were all hanging around and I looked toward my left around a campfire and there was sitting Albert Brooks, you know, the film director, the comedian.

And I looked at him and I said, you're Albert Brooks.

And he said, what's your name?

I said, my name is Arthur Brooks.

And he said, no.

I said, yeah.

And you know what else?

People have been calling me Albert Brooks since I was a kid.

He's like 10 years older than I am.

He said, since I was a kid, because you're so famous.

And he looks at me, he doesn't crack a smile.

And he says, imagine how Adam Hitler felt.

So if we call you Albert, it's all good.

It's all good.

I've been here my whole life.

I've been calling him Adam Hitler.

Yeah, I'll say that.

Every time we talk to you, we look at each other like, Arthur, Arthur, Arthur.

I know.

Arthur, Arthur.

Oh, it's terrible.

I don't even like

Albert's fine, though.

Oh, I think he's just fine.

He's funny, but it's not like I'm a huge fan of his movies.

don't don't know why.

It's something like that.

No.

Albert Einstein is his real name.

Shut up.

I'm kidding.

I'm not kidding you.

It's Albert Einstein.

Oh, you're kidding, or you're not kidding.

I'm not kidding.

I promise.

I'm not kidding.

And what happened is he changed it to Albert Brooks because you're not going to go into show business named Albert Einstein.

You should change your name to Albert Einstein.

I should change my name to Arthur Einstein.

And people will still call me Albert.

All right.

So, Arthur, you have a new documentary out, and I have seen it, and it is really good.

Really good.

Thank you.

You are,

you know,

we were talking the other day about Buddha Judge, and

he is the,

he's playing it the nice guy.

Right.

He may be a nice guy.

I don't know anything about him other than, you know, what you read about.

And he seems like a really nice, normal guy.

A guy who comes out and says, yeah, I'm gay.

And you know what?

I also eat Chick-fil-A and I like it.

Right.

And it's a guy who's coming out now and saying, you know,

I don't hate everybody that you're supposed to hate.

That's fighting fire with water.

Right.

And that usually works.

It generally does, particularly after a period of hate and polarization.

The reason that that actually can work right now is because 93% of Americans say they hate how divided we've become as a country.

And every single person listening to us right now loves somebody with whom they disagree politically.

But there's a class that's getting rich and powerful and famous, largely in politics and in media and on campuses, saying you got to hate people who you disagree with, that they're deviant, they're stupid, and they're evil.

And in our hearts, we know that's wrong.

You know, in this movie you talked about, in The Pursuit, in this movie, you know, we sit down with people who call themselves democratic socialists.

They're awesome people.

They're great people.

They love their fellow men and women.

I have different policy ideas.

I think I have better ways to get at their objectives, but their objectives aren't wrong.

And most people know that.

And so Pete Buttajudge and a few other people are actually going to

rage against the contempt machine in this country by saying, you want something better.

The product is crummy.

I'm going to give it to you.

Will it win?

We'll see.

Will it even get past the people who are making an awful lot of money on

the outrage industrial complex?

Yeah, we don't know.

Here's a clip of the pursuit.

I don't claim to have all the answers, but the answers that I've found have truly changed my life.

Arthur Brooks, sir!

Thank you, Mr.

President.

It's an honor to be here and with all of you.

Poverty is the thing I care about the most.

I think that the suspicion that people have about capitalism comes because they think people like me don't believe in morals and they don't believe in any regulation at all.

And that's not true.

Here's the great irony of our times.

People in the wealthiest countries in the world are increasingly turning against the very system that's lifted us out of poverty.

If India had not adopted economic reforms, there would be 375 million poor people more in the country today.

Whatever we got to do to get the American dream honestly, then that's what we're going to do, you know?

The American dream is always predicated on you work hard, you get the right grade, you go to the right schools, and a lot of the time, it doesn't work that way.

The real poverty exists when a young man or a young woman grows up with no dream.

That's poverty, man.

You know, cold goes away.

What are we going to do?

They didn't think about that.

They didn't expect it.

They didn't expect it.

Two billion people have been pulled out of starvation level poverty.

What did that?

Everyone want happy life.

Do not want suffering.

You are showing genuine interest, not only in money matter, but a more wider perspective.

I really very much appreciate thank you thank you your Highness

the point of the American experience is a moral consensus that our society should push opportunity to the people who need it the most

here's here's why Arthur Brooks is even more talented than Albert Brooks Albert's listening

he um

If you watch that, you are the only person that believes in the free market that I have seen, that understands heart and imagery.

You're not there with the Pope.

You're there with the Dalai Lama.

You're on stage with a French horn and it says in the trailer, a musician.

That is not a guy next to a tractor.

And you are able to break through

to the other side.

There's

images of you with

briefing President Obama.

You are able to get in to places that most conservatives or most constitutionalist and strict libertarian,

real

liberals, classic liberals,

can't go nor care to go.

And you have have all of the imagery that you need to be able to break the divide.

Yeah, that's the idea, and that's why a movie can really change people's conversations in a big way.

You know,

one of the things I was trying to do in this film, and what I've been trying to do with my career, by the way, is to get to the places where

traditional conservatives don't get to go and have the conversations they don't typically have.

Why?

Not just because I'm going to convince people on the other side, because I want people who are persuadable, who are watching the conversation, to say, huh?

You know,

I saw a guy who's got free market views, who believes

in conservative ideas.

Why?

Because he wants to lift people up from the margins, and he was having a conversation with iconic figures from the other side, and no horns, no anger,

no vitriol, no contempt, no hatred, no disrespect.

And that's really what people want.

And if we want to win the country for a better set of ideas so that we can have more solidarity and brotherhood and happiness and love in this country, We need to go where we're not invited.

We need to say the things that people have not heard before.

We need to share with everybody is the bottom line.

And that's what puts joy in our hearts.

Glenn, you've been trying to do this too.

You want to talk to everybody.

I mean, when I look at

what the charity is doing, I mean,

I saw the trailer for your charity yesterday at the Dallas Film Festival where the pursuit was.

And it blew my mind.

I mean, there's no way that somebody's going to say, oh, it's Glenn Beck, the conservative guy.

They would say, this is an organization dedicated to ending slavery around the world, to lifting people up.

It has no ideology about it whatsoever.

And that's the point, isn't it?

We want the best for everybody.

Conservatives lose arguments because they go in with guns blazing saying, here's what I'm against.

And if you disagree with me, you're stupid and evil.

And here's the problem.

I said this to Stu yesterday.

Who was it?

What was the candidate that said,

I think it was Betto, that Americans are against the

conservative and Republican agenda.

I don't even know what that is.

I really don't even know what that is.

It's not that they're not for it.

I don't think they know what it is.

You know, we're against an awful lot of stuff, but who's out there talking about, you know, I watched your documentary.

I've always thought of,

please forgive my ignorance.

I was a dummy up until I hit 30.

I did did know nothing.

And I was a musician.

I was worse than that.

No,

you at least could play a horn.

But I've always thought of India as a capitalist system.

And I'm watching your documentary and I'm like, oh my gosh, no.

No,

it was the furthest thing from a capitalist free market system.

It was a Soviet planned economy

until the early 1990s.

Amazing.

That's incredible.

And since they've abandoned that,

we've seen massive changes.

It has one of the highest growth rates in the world.

You know, you go to India.

It's great

in the world.

In the great growth rates and economic growth rates in the world.

Thank you.

Incredible when you go there.

You find that 375 million Indians have been pulled out of abject starvation-level poverty.

And they're among the 2 billion that have been pulled out of poverty because of the free enterprise system, because of the American system of globalization and free trade, property rights, all this stuff that we take for granted, the culture of upward mobility.

And the culture of now

making something yourself, doing something, starting something small, and now with the tools of the internet, being able to sell it anywhere in the world.

I was struck in the documentary of

it almost felt like New York must have felt in 1900.

Yeah, that's the point.

And it's a point that I make in the film, because if you look at the footage of

New York, you say the garment industry, for example,

the Laurie's side of Manhattan in 1910, it looks just like slums in India do today.

And people are in industry.

The truth is that people live a lot better in slums in India than they did in New York in 1910 because they have health care and their kids go to school and they have a lot of possibilities, but it looks the same.

And what that brings home to me, and it's controversial to say, but I honestly believe that, is that those people living in slums or in India, they're us separated by time.

And if we can't look at these people around the world and see

ourselves in them, what's wrong with us?

Look, you know, the Becks were scratching out potatoes in Ireland a few generations ago.

And look at you.

They were ambitious riffraff.

That's America.

And that's what moves me.

And that's what we need to spread and change the world with are these ideals.

Hans Rosling makes this point in factfulness, which is the first time I ever thought of it the way you just described it.

It's just really a time issue.

It's not us and them.

It's not first world and third world.

These are countries that are coming along at a lot of times accelerated paces than what more accelerated paces than what we did.

But they are just a little bit behind.

All these things are happening.

All these incredible improvements in the places that have implemented some basic form of a free market.

They're seeing those same things.

And

that's a glorious miracle.

Yeah.

You must have capitalism.

And since capitalism has started to spread around the world, and capitalism gets a bad name because it sort of means everything and nothing, but what we're talking about is the free enterprise system, bounded with appropriate regulation and basic human morality, has alleviated 80% of starvation-level poverty since I was a kid.

70% of Americans think that hunger's gotten worse.

It's gotten better.

80% better.

I mean, it's the greatest humanitarian achievement in the history of the human race.

And it's happened since Glenn Beck and Arthur Brooks were kids.

We got to spread that from the rooftops.

And the reason is not just to be done, not just to cry victory.

It's because we need the next 2 billion of our brothers and sisters.

They're out there and they need us.

And charity, it's good.

Maybe it'll get us to heaven, but you got to have a system that works while you sleep.

And we've found it and we can spread it and we got to fight for it.

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Why are you going away from the American Enterprise?

Why are you going to

Harvard?

You know, I've been running AEI for 10 years.

When I came in, AEI was started in 1938.

It's a really old organization.

In the past 10 years, we've had phenomenal growth.

We've hired tons of people.

We've had a big impact.

And we've stayed in the world of ideas as opposed to getting dragged into politics.

I did what I said I was going to do sort of operationally and I promised them 10 years.

And I know when you stay much more than 10 years in a place like AEI as president of a think tank,

it's not the best things don't happen.

Part of it is because you start losing energy and

also you get too identified with one person.

So I say, you know, I prayed prayed about it for a long time.

You know, I prayed for discernment.

What am I supposed to do next?

And

I was an academic before.

I taught at Syracuse for a long time and I resigned my position with No Net.

And

I heard from about 10 universities, some other things too, you know, to

and a university is a really good thing because it provides an opportunity to do a tremendous amount of creative work.

And the really incredible thing from Harvard is that Harvard called and said,

We want you to come teach here.

And I said, why?

And they said, because you think differently and we want to shake things up.

And I said,

for sure, it's great.

It's great.

Is it going to be resistance to my ideas?

I hope so, because that's the opportunity.

You know,

when you're in the mission field,

when you're in the mission field, you don't want to go where everybody's already converted.

Exactly right.

And they're not in the university.

And it's a great university.

All right.

Back in just a second with more from Arthur Brooks.

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Oh, I have one too.

Yeah, do you?

Can I ask one too?

Yeah.

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Okay.

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Arthur Brooks joins us in one minute.

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So Arthur Brooks, he is the president of the American Enterprise Institute.

He is also leaving there to become a professor at Harvard.

God bless you, man.

And he is a producer of a new documentary called The Pursuit.

And it's all about about the free market system.

It is something that

everyone should be watching.

And especially if you have people who are democratic socialist or socialist or your kids in college, they should watch this.

It has the heart that the free market system should have when we're selling it.

It's not all facts and

statistics.

It has a lot in.

However, it is really more about lifting people up from poverty.

And it comes out in a few weeks, right?

Yeah, it does.

Well, it's in showings all over the country right now.

So it's in screenings in about 100 communities.

We're in three international film festivals, and it'll be on digital platforms starting this summer, and it'll be on Netflix starting in August.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Just crazy, great.

Yeah, I'm so happy about that.

I mean, like, my whole career has been dedicated to trying to lift people up toward equal dignity and the limitless.

potential that people actually have.

The free enterprise system exists, and the reason we should fight for it is only because of that.

It's not for us.

It's not for Stu and Glenn and Arthur because we're very lucky people.

We're prosperous people.

And the truth is, we could prosper under a system of socialism.

I don't want to.

It wouldn't be fair.

It wouldn't be right.

But we could.

Who needs capitalism?

Who needs free enterprise?

The people who are still at the periphery of our society.

We got to fight for them.

The next 2 billion people, they need us.

And what I talk about in this film is how you, you know, with proper regulation and obviously with morals, because

you can't have markets without morals.

If you do, they'll be ruined.

They'll ruin everything.

And if you have these things, then you can be a force for goodness in the world and showing that, bringing people together, listening to everybody.

What a joy it was to make this picture.

So, Arthur,

let me ask you this.

We are sitting in a really interesting time.

As you know, I was not for Donald Trump,

to put it mildly, in the last election.

You were very vocal about that.

have

watched him, and I still have the same concerns that I've always had on many fronts.

On other fronts, he has done what he said he would do or more.

For instance, on Israel, it's been crazy.

He's also done things that I

thought he would do and frightened me, like the trade barriers that we have.

When it comes to this next election, if I am faced with one of these social democrats or one of these people that that are even dancing around the edges of

saying, you know, yeah, well, we got to get rid of the free market system, you know, eventually,

I mean, I know who I'm going to vote for.

How do we square this

with

what we're facing?

Because what we're facing is the end of the West and America as we know it.

Yeah.

You know, we've had threats from socialism forever in this country.

It always comes back.

And I like this one.

I mean,

maybe in the 1930s.

Yeah, in the 1930s, but after every financial crisis, it comes back.

And so if you see after the 1890s, there were two financial crises that were just hardcore.

In 1892 and 1896, there was a silver bust and there was a railroad bust.

Just as bad as what we saw in 2008, worse, as a matter of fact.

And you got William Jennings Bryan, who was this left-wing

populist who also was anti-immigration, anti-trade, and all the stuff that we don't like of populism, both right and left.

This always comes around and this is always our opportunity.

For those of us who believe in the promises of democratic capitalism to lift up the world, you got to look at these times and you say, this is an opportunity.

Look, you're the quintessential entrepreneur, Glenn, not just in media, in a bunch of businesses, because you believe that when you look around and you say something's not right, that's an opportunity to build something good and true.

So if we look at the idea economy today, and we say all of these people, all these young people say that capitalism is a sham, that socialism

is a better system.

You've got people running for president.

have leaders in Congress who are espousing democratic socialism.

That's our opportunity because that's when the conversation is ripe.

So I look at this and I say, man, I am so lucky to be alive right now.

I'm releasing a movie on major digital platforms that talks about how capitalism is a beautiful system for helping the poor.

It couldn't be better timed.

And all of us can do that.

You know, like Glenn Beck is an apostle for democratic capitalism and you're going to get a better, bigger audience listening to the fact that you believe in global brotherhood, not in global profit.

And that's the reason that you stand behind the free enterprise system.

It's a look, there will be bad things that will happen.

I got it.

But there's going to be good things that happen too.

And let's focus on all the good things that we can make happen.

So

how do we make the impact?

How do you have the conversations?

Because quite honestly,

I feel when I go to Silicon Valley and I know what Silicon Valley is.

You go there a lot.

And you talk about, you're very sophisticated in the way you talk about technology.

So

I go there and I feel in some ways that I am in a place that is more America than America because there are a group of young people who are like, hey, I have an idea.

And they just do it.

And it changes the world.

It is truly free market.

And the ideas are so exciting and they're so big.

I mean, they're talking about changing the world.

It's dynamic.

Where are those people

on our side?

Where are the people?

We are good at articulating.

I mean, I kind of came to a place,

Arthur,

if I could do my whole career over again.

Yeah, what would you do?

You.

I would be like you.

I would start by playing the French horn and not making your own.

Yeah.

No.

Getting kicked out of college?

Is that the part you mean?

but i i you know i i was the what third or fourth most admired man the year i went to fox from cnn you know that stupid a people yeah i was tied with the pope and nelson mandela okay that's crazy that's crazy i love america

i don't know this is a commercial for america here

uh so uh but

so when i went to when i went to fox saying the same thing it all changed yeah and i became this political figure.

Politics is at the back end of the dog

and not the front end.

And

you are pigeonholed into

something

that

is ugly and grotesque.

And I kind of came just recently to the feeling that

we all have our own gifts and we all have our own positions.

And I've not liked mine.

Mine has been warn people.

And I hate that.

I grew up in an alcoholic family.

I don't like conflict.

I mean, look at me.

Yesterday they were dragging me through the mud saying that I said that, you know, Muslims attack Notre Dame, which is the exact opposite of what I said.

You know, I'm always in the center of conflict and I hate it.

But my role is to warn people on what's coming.

Right.

Your role is to help us out and say, here's the path forward.

So,

what is it that we say to our friends?

What is it that we have to change?

You know, point to the

bright horizons and say, look at this person, look at what's happening here, look what's happening here.

Where's our course?

Our course is

self-improvement, the American religion that you are the master of yourself.

And that's what we're on the cusp of reviving.

And this happens a couple of times a century in the United States, and it hasn't happened for a while.

We're really, really ripe for it.

And look, you and I are in the same business because you are a self-improvement guy.

You are a man of the revolution of the individual heart.

After

the end of the 19th century, when America was beaten down, civil war, tons of poverty, financial crises, polarization, populism.

Kind of like now, except worse in most ways, because we were a much poorer country.

That's when the self-improvement revolution really swept across this country.

And what that was was entrepreneurship of each person, the startup of of each life.

And that's what we really need to bring a culture back of.

So, you know, if you want people to stop, you want young people on campuses to stop talking about socialism, you have to help them understand that they are the master of their feelings and they are the master of their fate, which is empowering.

It's encouraging.

It's aspirational.

And here's the best part.

It's true

in America.

It's why Jordan Peterson is so popular.

That's why Jordan Peterson is popular.

By the way,

you think that you're just Ezekiel, you know, you're a prophet.

It's like, you know, the end is near.

That's not true.

You know, you're an encouraging person.

You know, when I watch you, and I realize, you know, I've been watching you for years, and you're CNN, Fox, and since you've been on your own in this incredible entrepreneurial venture, you're an aspirational person because you believe in the goodness of this country and you believe that everybody listening to us, everybody who's on the other side of these mics,

they're true entrepreneurs with their own lives too.

The true enterprise of life in America is each person listening to us.

And when we can get back that culture, then we're off to the races.

And that's what I want to start.

And I think we're, man, I think we're on the edge of it.

I've written this, I read this book called The Pursuit.

I mean, sorry, the movie's The Pursuit.

I wrote Love Your Enemies, which came out one month ago.

Love Your Enemies, Matthew 5, 44.

It's how you can be an entrepreneur by loving your enemies.

It went on the best selling list.

You know, that's very encouraging to me because people are hungry for it.

And so the people are listening to us.

Okay, what are you going to do?

What's your opportunity?

Somebody's going to treat you with contempt, with nastiness.

Your opportunity is to treat people with love.

Okay, stand by.

We'll

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Here with Arthur Brooks.

The movie is The Pursuit.

It's out everywhere on May 7th.

May 6th.

May 6th.

May 6th.

So let me go to Love Your Enemies for a second.

And this is something I think the audience struggles with.

I sometimes struggle.

I think everybody does.

That's the name of the new book, but it's basically the philosophy of life.

Yeah, all right.

You make a point in the movie and the book of saying

don't treat your opponents as evil, right?

Which I think we all kind of understand.

However, there is a line there, right?

I can all recognize if Adam Hitler were running for president right now, that might not be a productive conversation.

And, you know, you talk so eloquently about lifting 2 billion people out of poverty, but we have several candidates that are talking about trying to rip down many parts of what has made that occur globally.

And when you're talking about people and being able to lift them out of poverty, I mean, how do you find the line?

Because there is a line.

And, you know, if we're talking about billions of people being able to live that otherwise might not have, I mean, how far is a Bernie Sanders from that line?

I mean, he may be a good person.

I mean, I think a lot of times he plays with the truth a little bit too much for that particular description at times.

Yeah, but it's a weird thing for a presidential candidate.

Yeah, I know, I know.

It's totally unique to him.

But I mean, there is that line.

And I feel like a lot of people in the audience who want to be able to have productive conversations with people

they don't agree with see people like Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez and people that are out there advocating for things that will actually really hurt people.

And can we not stand up and say that that's wrong?

Right.

So

let's get a couple of things clear.

I completely disagree with almost everything that Bernie Sanders talks about, but he's not Stalin.

We're so far away from these.

I mean,

we should be incredibly grateful in this country.

You know, when we, there's no knock in the night.

There's no jackbooted thug.

We disagree with each other, and sometimes it gets ugly.

I mean, especially if you're on the front lines like you guys, it gets ugly every 20 seconds on on Twitter.

It's a big mess.

It's a ghetto out there, and it's a dangerous one at that, ideologically.

But, you know, when I talk to members of Congress, and I get to talk to, go on retreats with the members of Congress.

And one of the things that I'll often ask is, how many of you guys are grateful we don't live in a one-party state?

It's every hand.

I say, you just told me you're grateful for the other party.

You know, the truth of the matter is if you want to have a competition of ideas, which we must have, because competition brings excellence in sports and in politics and in certainly in economics and in the world of ideas.

That's what Silicon Valley is getting right is a competition of ideas.

If we want a competition of ideas ideologically, we need the other side competitively.

I don't want Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Orcasio-Cortez's ideology for this country, but I have to recognize that these are not people

that are of the same magnitude.

These are not evil people.

These are simply people with whom I disagree.

Now, who do I want to convince?

And here's where it gets really interesting, right?

I want to convince the persuadables.

I want to convince all those people out there.

They're kind of like, yeah, give me your best shot.

How am I going to convince them?

By saying that Bernie Sanders is evil?

That saying that Bernie Sanders is deviant?

By saying hateful, disrespectful things about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

No.

No, no, no, no.

I'm not going to get any converts.

Look, nobody is persuading anybody in America today.

My job is to...

persuade and be persuadable, to live in an environment where I can make my best arguments and have the joy of being humble when somebody makes a good argument of taking it.

And I can't do that if I say Bernie Sanders is a Stalinist.

Can't happen.

So I just did an interview with Peter Bogozin, a Bogozian.

He's the guy who,

along with two other

scientists, scholars, professors, did the white papers that

said

male rape culture in dog parks.

The fake paper.

The fake papers.

Really, they're lefties.

They're real lefties.

They're alarmed about what's going on in academic

research, right?

And so I sat down with them, and

we were open about it.

And they said, you know, a lot of people on our side do not want us sitting with you.

But they did.

And we talked about the difference being you talk to people who are honest brokers.

You talk to people,

and

we started, they're atheists.

Both of them were atheists.

And I'm clearly not.

And I said, let's talk about first cause.

Are you an atheist or are you an agnostic?

Because an atheist knows.

I just know.

An agnostic said, I don't think so, but, you know.

And really, that's where we all should be in the end.

You know, what we got to was, if I could provide evidence that there is a God, scientific evidence there is a God, would you change?

Yes, was the answer.

That's the difference.

If you could scientifically prove, prove, and I don't think it'll ever be scientifically proven either way, but if you could scientifically prove something, will you change your opinion?

The answer should be yes.

But too many of us are not willing to change our opinion.

Right.

We're locked down.

And part of the reason is because it's become an article of faith in politics that if you show any weakness, that means you lose.

That's not right for most Americans.

And the interesting thing is, you know, what we mentioned before, every single person listening to us right now loves somebody with whom they disagree politically.

If you love somebody with whom you disagree politically, you should simply reject it when somebody you don't know on television or in politics or on campus says that that person's an idiot.

It's not right to say that your sister-in-law is an idiot.

She's not an idiot.

She thinks about things differently than you do.

This also, when you come to terms with the fact that it's not right for people to criticize your loved ones or anybody to say that they're deviant because they disagree, that gives you the intense pleasure of maybe being persuadable.

I think that we can change American culture this way, but it has to start with personal revolution.

It has to start by saying, just because I think something doesn't make it right, if I find evidence to the contrary, if I find evidence that something is actually better for others,

is better for my objectives, I'm going to look into it.

Look, you've changed your ideology over the years, Glenn.

I mean, you've changed the way that you think.

I've seen the evolution of you as a public figure.

Why?

Because the pleasure that comes from humility is indescribable.

It is.

Being persuasive kind of scratches your pride.

Yeah.

Arthur, thank you so much.

Thank you, Glenn.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

What a joy to be with you.

Thank you.

Arthur Brooks, producer of the movie that's coming out May 1st, The Pursuit, also best-selling author of Love Your Enemies available right now.

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So Arthur, I think, is a very aspirational guy, and I love him.

And I love what he's done with the American Enterprise Institute.

I love, love, love, love his new movie.

I think he'll make a big impact.

I think he'll make a huge impact at Harvard as well.

I think he is,

well, let me put it this way.

I hope he's right that we're a million miles away from Stalin,

but we are walking towards Stalin.

And some are running towards Stalin.

Yeah, I mean, we know Stalin's evil.

We know that that philosophy is evil.

And nobody is talking about rounding anybody up.

No, but we are talking about silencing people.

Again, if if you don't want to get to a destination it's best not to go down the road that leads to it yes so if you're only taking a short drive down the road of socialism it's scary because i mean the closer you get to those things you're increasing government power which allows the government to overwhelm all of the positives

it is difficult and it's it's it's a tough line that's why i asked him that question it's a tough line to draw because there are times where you know like the the great that has come out of the free market the people who oppose it and oftentimes oppose it, while I believe willingly lying about it.

I mean, it's hard.

It might be the right thing to do, but it's a hard thing to do to not just see that as people, you know,

it's an activity that is against human achievement, human

prosperity.

And many times it's completely dishonest.

It's completely dishonest.

Let me give you an example.

It was very, very hard for me to hold my temper yesterday

after I saw what Newsweek and others did to my words on the program, The News and Why It Matters.

As Notre Dame was burning down,

as it was burning down, we were receiving tweets that said, Glenn, you predicted this.

Because in 2015, I had said, if you want to see places like Notre Dame, you got to go because you're going to go to Paris and maybe in the next 15 years and that thing will be burnt to the ground.

It'll be gone.

Well, I was talking about a threat from Islamic terrorism at the time in 2015.

Since then, 2016, there was a threat.

Four people were arrested trying to destroy

Notre Dame.

In that same year, ISIS came out and said that it was their number one target in Europe.

And then the next year,

they arrested four people people that had a car bomb headed towards Notre Dame.

So

while this is happening on screen, we're getting emails from people.

People on my staff are coming in going, Glenn, this is exactly what you talked about.

And I said off the air, no, no, no, we don't know.

Yeah, you just said that on the air, by the way.

Right.

No, but I said it off the air first.

Then I get on the air.

Now, I want you to listen carefully.

And Stu, do me a favor, write down the key things that you hear me say

because I'm going to show you how the media took it and what the media, Washington Post, everybody else, what they did

to this, I think, very logical, reasonable conversation.

Listen.

President Macron has just come out and said it looks like we may not be able to save it.

Just watch the video here, just a little bit of this.

That's the spire.

This is their 9-11.

Look at the spire fall.

That's the spire of Notre Dame.

Look at how hot that fire is.

Look at the flames, how high those flames are.

That is not close to going out at this point.

No.

We don't know what caused it yet.

We know that there was a mass

renovation that was going on.

But

that is a pretty remarkable.

I mean, this is a

world landmark

and

probably next to the Eiffel Tower, the most iconic building in all of France,

and more important than the Eiffel Tower.

This is the site of the American Revolution, I mean the French Revolution.

This is the site of Victor Hugo.

I mean, this is

so wildly important to France as an image.

Also, like really

serious archives are held there.

I mean, they're going to lose all sorts of art and archives that you're never going to be able to recreate.

I mean,

just

the rose

stained glass window is irreplaceable.

If

this was arson,

this is going to be bad.

If this was arson of any foreign

kind of

any foreign entity,

anybody with a grudge,

I think if,

and this is a huge if, it might have just been started by a cigarette, we don't know, but if this was started by Islamists, I don't think you'll find out about it

because I think it would set the entire country on fire.

They've had killings, they've had mass shootings, they've had people running people down in the streets.

The tension is very high.

You take away this be like us burning, what, what, our White House?

I mean,

what is iconic like this?

World Trade Centers?

Yeah, like the World Trade Center.

This is their World Trade Center moment.

And if this was done by terrorists,

I think that

they will keep it quiet because I just don't think

Macron and France wants that internal fight.

If this was done by somebody who is disgruntled with the government, et cetera, like the yellow vests, you know, they did say this weekend that the police can put bullets in their guns and they can shoot to kill the yellow vests.

They said that this weekend.

So maybe it's that.

I don't know.

But this is a really big deal.

The world has lost a major, major piece of history today.

Okay.

What did you take from that, Stu?

What did I say?

Can you sum that up?

Sure.

You said it was there 9-11.

I mean, I think obviously iconic buildings falling was what you were talking about.

It's funny because the way the spire fell, what it reminded me of in that moment was the Saddam Hussein statue falling.

And at no point did I think there was an invading force that was trying to liberate Notre Dame, right?

Like, that's just not what I thought.

So, I mean,

I thought with the smoke and the way it collapsed and

being a huge iconic building.

Yeah, this is,

you know,

our

image of financial impenetrable stability

was taken down because it's Wall Street.

It's New York.

It's these gigantic, immovable towers.

Okay.

It didn't have the importance.

Those were buildings.

It didn't have the importance of Notre Dame.

But it had the, in some ways, Wall Street has the soul of the capitalist nation.

Yeah.

And that's why they targeted it.

That's why they targeted it.

So the same thing, when I'm saying this, this, I keep saying it's the heart of France, you know, that's an iconic building, it's more important than the Eiffel Tower to the French.

That strikes to their soul of who they are.

You don't just wipe that off the map.

And so, what I was saying with 9-11, it's their 9-11.

They have been just sucker punched in the gut.

Now, remember, our 9-11, we didn't know who did it.

No,

9-11.

We had no idea.

We had absolutely no idea who did this to us.

On 9-11, we were freaked out.

On 9-12, which was there yesterday,

okay, what did they do?

They started raising money.

They started coming together.

France has never been more united.

That's their 9-12.

Now, if they find out that somebody did this, they will respond as we did.

But it looks like, and I said, you know, it's amazing.

Did you catch?

If it's arson, it's bad.

If it's arson from a foreign entity,

it's worse.

If it's arson from terror,

even worse.

We know it could be, they say now it could be a cigarette.

So if it's a cigarette,

but a huge if is if it's Islamic terrorists, you won't hear about it.

Yeah, I mean, that's all the stuff that I wrote down, basically.

I mean, the fact that the first thing that you mentioned mentioned as a possible cause was a mass renovation, period.

That was the first thing you talked about, number one.

And that was about where we were on the reporting.

We didn't know what the

case was at that point.

And in addition to that,

the one thing that was suggested as a possibility was the mass renovation.

Now, of course, if you had come out, let's just say you had come out and said, hey guys, you know what happened?

Was

I believe this was Islamists?

They did this.

This is them.

You would have been wrong

in this particular case.

However, as you point out,

they have attacked this exact building multiple times in the past couple of years.

They said it was the number one target of ISIS in Europe.

So it would not have been insane to think that was true, though you didn't think of it as the number one possibility.

You said it was mass renovation was the number one possibility.

You said it could have been a cigarette.

You could have said it could have been the yellow vests.

Which is, you know, again,

none of that ever gets mentioned in any of the tweets about it.

No, of course because there's a line there.

There's a line about when you're doing a show like this and you're, you know, we're talking off the top of our heads for four hours a day.

There's all there's two lines.

There's one, you can actually say something wrong.

You can legitimately say something that you screwed up and you're going to get a beating for it.

And you understand that.

It's happened with you.

You said things where you're like, I wish I said that another way.

And you take the beating and you're like, this is what I meant.

But you know, you're on the wrong side of it.

Or you can understand how people are.

I don't take a word of that back.

I think all of that was very clear.

The other standard, which is the standard applied on social media and by by left-wing organizations

whose sad lives are filled with listening to your programs over and over again to try to find something they can use against you,

is different.

Did we say something that someone can act as if they believe was bad?

Can they act as if they believe what you meant was terrible?

Like, I know, you know, doing the show with you, you said

you talked about

Islamic extremists, you might not even find out about it because

why did I say that?

Right, exactly.

The reason you said that, and you explained it, of course, was that there's so much internal strife there right now that if something came out about that, it could cause a real inflammation of the whole society, a lot of it against Muslims, by the way.

Right.

And did I attach a good thing or a bad thing to that?

Not finding out.

Did I say that was good that you wouldn't find out or bad that you would find out?

That you wouldn't find out.

You were kind of saying it was good.

Yeah.

I was saying it will cause massive problems.

Right.

And I don't think anybody in France wants that.

And I don't want that.

That could be, that could be the catalyst that sets it on fire.

So before Newsweek and everybody, I was trending nationally yesterday.

Okay.

With lies,

absolute lies.

Before that, I A had

Jason on, our chief researcher, who I had put up and said, stay up all night.

I want you to find out everything you can.

Look for the conspiracy theory so we can debunk them right away.

Find out what you can.

So we talked about it on the air.

We started the show with that.

Then yesterday I said, this may be a blessing because it takes that iconic thing away, which would absolutely start

a religious war.

It would absolutely start it if this was ISIS.

And it takes that off of the plate so that it can't be used.

I think

how, how, how, instead, what they say is when you say, well, you might not find out about it.

What they, again, I don't, they don't believe this, but what they're trying to make their, I was going to say, Arthur Brooks is in my head, so I'm not going to say dumb people who visit their websites, but the people who visit their websites, what they're trying to make them believe is that what you're saying is, if you hear its construction, they're lying, which is not at all what you were saying.

No.

You did not say that at all.

You never said that publicly.

You never said that privately.

That is not what you were saying.

No.

You were saying something completely different, which you just explained.

But again,

the goal of these organizations is not to find an example of you saying something wrong.

It's

something that they can plausibly act like they believe was wrong.

They can say, they do this all the time.

You take a statement and you act as if, well, that is their entire viewpoint on this, and I can make them look dumb if I tweet this and act like I don't think they know anything else about the topic.

That's a terrible instinct that I think gets drawn out of social media and click farms and clickbait farms.

But I mean, it is these organizations are out there specifically to do this.

And, you know, as Arthur pointed out, some of that is a blessing.

Like, you know, we could easily just be ignored for everything that we say.

The fact that these people are up all night obsessing over you and listening to every word that you say is, you know, generally speaking, at least they're, you know, people care.

Which is,

yes, here's making an impact.

Here's the thing: I had an employee who's a good friend, and I love him, and he's worked here now for six months, and he is just great.

He came to me yesterday and said, Hey, I have to talk to you about this.

I really strongly disagree because he read it in The Hill and Politico, and he believed them over the guy who he passed his desk twice yesterday.

Well, it wasn't over you.

He had not heard your side of it, but he, you know,

he just assumed they were reporting it.

So instead of coming to me and saying, Glenn, this doesn't sound like you.

Did you really say this?

Instead, he believed the media.

He works here.

That's the problem.

If you were in a place to where you'll believe the media, who we all are supposedly to distrust, if you believe them over people who you know,

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We haven't done this in a while, but I have so many stories that are piling up that we just have to get to that I think we're going to do Choose Your News.

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I want to talk to you a little bit about Filter Buy.

Great thing working with Stu.

He's as lazy as I am.

Absolutely.

We are, I believe, the laziest duo in America.

We try to be.

We try to live up to those high expectations.

I mean, when you really think about our job, think about it.

Who's the dumb one, huh?

Huh?

Really?

You?

Or us?

We're the ones that just drive into work, we sit in a chair, and then we just talk.

I mean, is that the laziest thing you can do?

I mean, I would like to make it easier.

I mean, it's a three-hour show.

Can we get it down to 15 minutes?

I'd like to get it down to about a minute and a half.

Okay.

And I think it would be a great minute and a half.

Oh, we would smoke.

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Sometimes we'll give you three minutes.

But anyway, we're lazy, and we're kind of proud of that.

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Me, I'd rather sleep in than go,

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Don't forget to change the field.

Thursday, you Oh, please.

It's my day to sleep in.

Yeah, send the thing to my house.

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I was going to do Tuesday News, but Andrew Heaton just walked in, the host of the podcast.

Something's off with Andrew Heaton and something is very off with Andrew Heaton.

I don't know how much longer his show is going to last.

Maybe today might be the last episode.

Not sure.

Looking forward to having Arthur Brooks on them.

How are you doing?

Good.

How are you?

Good morning.

Oh, yeah.

I'm doing good.

You brought in.

I brought in donuts.

I had something of an awkward day yesterday.

Yeah.

You're very sweaty right now, too.

I'm very sweaty right now.

Well, that might just be the amount of.

Yeah, I'm just sweaty.

That's a lot of layers.

I am wearing a lot of layers, though.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's 65 degrees in here.

But anyway, go ahead.

Yeah, well, you know, yesterday we did the panel show, The News and Why It Matters.

And I had kind of jumped to some conclusions on

some of your positions, Glenn.

Yeah.

And

fortunately, brought it up before the show.

Before I jumped into my monologue.

Right.

Give me your monologue.

Give me the monologue you were going to do.

I won't do that.

Why not?

Well,

you know that I am not angry with you.

You know that this is all, you know, this is show biz joking here.

But the donuts were a good move.

That donuts were a good move.

Thank you.

Well, so

to fill out what happened,

I had read a headline that said that you were implying that Islamists burned down Notre Dame and that the French government was suppressing that information and that that was their 9-11.

And it was sort of a flashpoint between East and West.

And I was going to come in and be like, you know, this is irresponsible and it's conspiracy theorizing and it's demonizing Muslims.

And what did you imagine I would have said?

I don't know.

I wasn't really sure.

You know why?

Because doesn't that seem a little out of character for me?

It does.

It does.

It does.

It does.

It does.

I think, you know what?

What I could have done is I could have gone, hey, Glenn, I read this interesting headline.

What's your take on this?

I avoided a lot of that.

A lot of that.

A lot of that.

So why?

And I'm not talking about you because I think this happens all the time.

All the time.

If you read it, it is so.

So what was it that made you go, this doesn't make any sense?

That's not the Glenn I know.

I'm going to go on the air and tear him apart.

What was it?

Why did that happen?

I'm seriously looking for an answer because I think this happens to a lot of people.

You know, part of it is if I'd gone to like rightwingwatch.com/slash Glenn slash whatever,

then I would have dismissed it.

But the story I was looking at, it was a headline that I saw from The Hill.

I did read the paper or they read the story, and I just kind of thought The Hill liked that they would have

done a little bit more.

They would have packed it properly.

They would have unpacked it properly.

Yeah.

Well, because I mean, and it wasn't just The Hill, it was lots of different because you have this first organization that comes out and lies

about what you said.

And then dozens of other publications publications start reporting on the initial report without doing any homework.

I mean, like, you know, it's one thing, it's hard.

You get a source in a news story.

You got to track them down.

Maybe their house just burned down.

You got to find them.

You got to find out where they are.

You got to check all these different things.

Glenn does a national radio and television show every day.

So all the things that he says are always available, right?

It's relatively easy for a reporter reporting on a particular story to go do this.

And reporters know how to contact my people.

That's strange.

That's strange.

It's not like some, I don't know.

Do we have a Ouija board?

How can we possibly get a statement from Glenn's Glenn or Glenn's people?

No one reaches out.

No one reaches out.

If you're going to, and I, you know, we've done enough shows with Andrew, and I know he would have not come on and trashed you over this.

He might have wanted to hear what

your explanation was over it.

But I mean, if you're a publication going out there and trashing Glenn over this, you have an absolute responsibility to make sure you understand what he said correctly.

You've got to work.

Or here's an idea.

Correct it.

Anybody seen a correction?

No, I've not seen it.

No.

Not seen a correction.

And that's the thing.

Like, you're right.

Like, right-wingwatch.deathofbeck.net is not going to ever correct it.

But there are publications out there that should at least,

they should protect whatever credibility they have to not just speak to a hard left-wing audience, right?

And this is why there is no credibility.

It's hard.

It's hard when we'll come on and sometimes there'll be something that the right is getting wrong, right?

And we'll come on the air and say look you know we've looked at this and here's what we believe is right i think the conservative side of this is actually made a mistake here here's source a b c on this and they'll just hear the names you know it's the new york times it's the hill it's whatever it is and so they've a lot of these places have burned their credibility with the right so consistently that they won't even listen when they actually have facts correct You know, it's just like, oh, well, that's the New York Times.

Of course, that's what they're saying.

Well, you know, look, the New York Times makes lots of mistakes.

And in their op-ed section, they're completely insane.

But they also, I mean, a lot of the information that we bring to you about, you know, Islamic extremism over the years has been because of reporting from the New York Times.

Yeah.

I mean, they've done a lot of good things.

You have to judge story to story,

writer by writer.

And a way to summarize this, maybe do your own homework.

Facts.

Yes.

Do your own.

Why you always plead with people on that?

Yes.

So why the donuts today?

I just wanted to kind of bring him in and, you know, kick off a new Wednesday

with a little bit of sugar.

Right, right.

Now, it's interesting.

You didn't pick carrots for Glenn.

I noticed you picked baked goods and glazed sugar.

What was the decision-making process there?

Well, as you know, I'm secretly trying to murder Glenn.

Okay.

I thought this will just be a little bit slowly do it.

All right.

Well, so we got that going for us.

How's the show going?

Good.

I'm really enjoying it.

Really?

It's good.

We've got Arthur Brooks on today, which I'm really excited about.

Or actually, I'm sorry, Arthur Brooks is going to be on tomorrow.

We've got Deanna Easley on today.

Who's Deanna Easley?

So she's here in Dallas, and we're going to talk about welfare and have a chat on that.

Tomorrow, we're going to talk about Arthur Brooks' book and capitalism, which I'm excited about because

the main thing on the show that I do is a temperamental thing of good and intelligent people can disagree on matters of substance.

And I feel like Arthur Brooks has exonified that in his book.

So I'm excited to have him on.

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Now, let me tell you about.

Can I get one of those donuts?

Yeah, here.

They look really freaking good.

They do.

Are those crispy creams?

They're crispy creams, but they're not.

No, they're not crispy creams.

They look like it.

No, they're even better.

They're even better.

No, they're even better.

He went to the generic donut store.

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That's all right.

They're donuts.

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Headline number one his parents destroyed his porn collection he got so upset he sued

Headline number two dog owners much happier than cat owners

And headline number three: Trump issues the second veto of his presidency.

Two's your news, Stu.

Well, I mean, we're just speaking of Andrew's podcast.

You can be certain that chewing the fat with Jeff Fisher

is going to cover in depth the porn story.

The porn story is really good, though.

It is really good.

It is good.

All right.

And then you have the veto.

Yeah.

Which is important.

Or the dog owners.

It's really important.

I mean,

I am interested in the legal theory behind the porn case.

So let's do that.

Okay, the porn case.

Okay, we're having dessert first.

Here we go.

Gentleman is suing his parents for destroying his pornography collection.

An Indiana man suing his parents in federal court for destroying his gargantuan collection of pornography.

He says the value is $30,000.

Wow.

It was so large it filled over a dozen moving boxes.

I'm going to say, I think the porn industry at this point would disagree with this analysis.

I think

they're churning out a lot of material and not getting paid a lot for it anymore.

Dad wrote,

we counted 12 moving boxes full of pornography plus two boxes of sex toys, as you might call them.

So this guy's going old school.

He's not on the internet.

No.

He's not going to any of the sites.

He's just popping up the old magazines there.

Is that what we're talking about?

And like videotapes?

Do we have a description of what this is?

Yeah.

Among the materials were videos depicting bestiality,

incest, rape, torture, and everyone's favorite urination.

Now, my understanding of this particular matter is that many of those things are not legal to possess.

Again, listen to Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher.

He'll explain all the details.

Well, now, this is going to come as a surprise to everyone involved, but this guy was 40 years old and had to move back in with his parents.

Well, when you spend tens of thousands of dollars on illegal porn,

you're lucky that you're living with your parents and not behind bars.

Well,

he was married for a while.

And they're still together happily ever after.

No idea what happened, but he had a divorce and his wife got everything.

He got the porn collection.

Don't know what happened,

but

the mom and dad

destroyed the entire pornography collection and

then got rid of all the sex toys.

The father

had written, said, we're going to destroy these things.

He didn't respond.

They started to destroy them.

And Dad wrote to him as they got deeper into the porn collection: I find your whole attitude toward women to be very disturbing.

Women are not objects for you to pleasure yourself with.

They are people created by God just as you were and should be treated with respect and dignity.

Believe it or not, one reason I destroyed your porn was for your own mental and emotional health.

I would have done the same if I had found a kilo of crack cocaine.

Someday, I hope you'll understand.

And then he got sued.

Then they got sued.

Now, that analysis does not cover the bestiality tapes.

Did he cover that individually?

Because,

I mean,

pets are people too?

Pets are people, too.

Yeah, yeah.

The guy, the 40-year-old, said, you can't just go around destroying people's stuff that you don't like or agree with.

We live.

This is coming from a guy who has bestiality and urination tapes.

He said,

Hello, we live in a civilized society.

If you have a problem with my belongings, you should have stated that and I would have taken them elsewhere.

Instead, you chose to keep quiet and behave vindictively.

I hope destroying that porn felt really good.

Was it worth losing your son?

Now, I'd like to turn that question around.

Yeah.

Was

your porn worth

probably your wife and your two parents?

That's a good way of questioning it.

I would also,

if you say yes, dad may have been right.

Right.

No, I think dad was right.

And I think that's clear.

I would also say, just from a fundamental economic standpoint,

you just,

I mean, I don't think you need to spend $30,000 on porn anymore, right?

Like, you could just probably go on the internet and get all this stuff times $100,000 for $0.

What's the fascination?

Without the VHS.

Without the VHS?

I know.

It's still blinking 12.

I know your Magnavox is not going to work out that well.

You may need to get an Apple TV to get it on the Magnavox, but I think, I mean, I just don't think the economic value of this is worth.

This is classic hustler.

It could be.

I will say that that I wouldn't be completely stunned if he wins that case.

I mean, I would think, generally speaking, when you're a kid, it's my house, my rules, right?

Like, your possessions are your parents' possessions.

But when you're 40 years old and you're living with someone, like if I'm a roommate with someone and I bring in a bunch of boxes there and they just throw the stuff out without any notice, they probably are in the wrong, whether it's porn or not.

Now, it may open up some other legal issues for this young gentleman.

This poor couple,

it's their son.

And now this is all out there.

I mean, you know, one of the, you didn't, you watch Making a Murderer at all?

No.

Season two has a,

they go through,

they believe, you know, the defense's case in this is that one of the other family members was actually responsible for the murder.

So one of the things they go through is the computer of one of the one of the kids who

they find a search history and they go through it in explicit detail.

Oh, boy.

The search history was not encouraging for this person's future prospects.

And I mean, really dark stuff, like the stuff you're talking about.

I mean, but every variation of just searching the internet for every creepy thing you can think of.

And, like,

you've just

that being on television, how can that family ever

be a family again?

Right?

Like, and he, you know, you know, spoiler alerts, not working very well, even coming up with these things.

But who caused that?

Him, right?

I mean, it's his fault, although he thought he was doing something in private.

And

now, little does he know because in theory, someone else murdered someone.

Can I ask you something?

And now his search history is out there.

Can I ask you something?

Yes.

Do you leave

your pornography collection, if you had one, at your mother's house?

You try to avoid that when possible.

I mean, if mom would have found, like, I don't even know, the Sears catalog or something underneath your bed, that would not be a good thing.

Right.

When mom came in,

you don't leave your porn and sex toy collection at your mom's house.

How little respect do you have?

Well, this for mom, particularly this 40-year-old living at home because he got divorced, likely because of too much porn, was not making the best decisions, Glenn.

I hate to break this to you.

I know it really

is a theory here, but he may

not understand women, is what you're saying.

Yeah, maybe not understanding.

I'm saying women, humanity, the internet, lots of things he didn't understand, apparently.

Yeah.

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What is wrong with you, dude?

Just, I mean, take a look at the money.

What is wrong with you, dude?

All right.

Well, we've got two more stories to cover.

Trump and his veto and dog owners are happier and better

than cat owners.

What?

Much better.

Yes.

Cat owners are communists.

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You've got a couple exposés on Joe Biden.

You've got the cost of free college and Tim Tebow on tonight's program.

So

it's a rough day when you look at each other and go, I have no idea how to even ask that question of Google.

Somebody should get like Mike Lee on the phone.

We're trying to figure out

Trump has issued the second veto of his presidency, and Congress does not have the votes to override him.

And what this is, the bill would have invoked the war powers resolution to pull the U.S.

assistance to Saudi Arabia out of Yemen.

Now, this is something that has been going on for years.

They just, Obama put us in the middle of this war.

I don't want to be in this war.

Nobody, you remember when George Bush was like, you got to go and ask Congress for permission.

So he did.

And they voted for Iraq.

That was something that I believe the president has to have the ability to say, I have to act and I have to act right now.

Send them in.

But then Congress has the ability after 30 days to say you know what dude you haven't made your case i'm turning this off they have a right to do that that is their constitutional power

i mean really you know they i think constitutionally they should be voting for it from the very beginning the war powers act expands the executive power to be able to have any time at all to be able to react i me personally i i think 30 days is reasonable that's different than what we're talking about though

i completely agree with you it's reasonable

And I think it's, isn't it 60?

It's 60 days and then a 30-day withdrawal period when it comes to the power of

the reaction when it comes to the War Powers Act.

But the War Powers Act, the War Power Resolution is not in the Constitution.

It's just something they passed.

Correct.

And that's why there's been fighting about it ever since, because it does,

you know, it treads on some very tender ground.

Because there's a conflict between both sides here.

I mean, you know,

in theory, Congress is supposed to be able to declare war, and that's supposed to be the way it's gone.

And we've gone many different directions of that over the years.

But here is the problem:

this comes from everything we passed around the time of the Patriot Act.

We passed special powers for Islamic terror,

okay?

Which means you can fight any place on earth.

As long as it's terror,

you can fight it.

So let's just say, you know,

the you know, people who believe in,

I don't know, Beto all of a sudden decide, you know, we're going to throw really wimpy punches at people.

If the president wanted to declare that terror, and if it was regarded as terror,

he would have the power to go scoop those people up.

So that's the

problem is when it's deemed terror,

the president, now that's an extreme case, and obviously it wouldn't happen, but that's what is happening in Yemen.

It's the war on terror.

Right.

And so he's using

that loophole.

And Barack Obama did this.

He's the one who started this.

He used that loophole to get us roped in in Yemen where we're providing support.

Well, make the case.

I personally think you can,

but make the case.

Yeah, and I don't understand why that's a big issue.

Now, of course, we're well past what the War Powers Act even allows for.

Correct.

And they have now voted.

But, I mean, he has, of course, the right to veto that.

That's part of our system as well.

But that's why Congress, and I see, I don't trust anybody in Congress

because I think it's all, it's just, you know, if Congress voted today and said, we're going to take away the funding, really, where were you when this was started?

You didn't have those scruples before.

And so I don't believe that there's an honest bone in anybody's body in Washington

because the House clearly against Donald Trump.

I think,

and this is why we have to get Mike Lee on the phone, I believe that

because the House of Representatives controls the purse strings,

I believe

the House

can cut the funding off unless there's a loophole in with this new Patriot Act kind of

period.

I think Trump would still be able to veto it.

For example, they they tried to defund Planned Parenthood, right?

Not only did the defunding of Planned Parenthood have to go through the House and pass the House, then it went to the Senate where it failed.

But if it had succeeded in the Senate,

it would have gone to the President who could have vetoed it.

Now, this president would not have vetoed that.

So, what good is the power of the purse strings?

Well, it's still where everything originates.

It doesn't mean you can just cut off funding for anything you don't like.

Wouldn't the Republican Congress could cut off all funding for Obamacare?

We wouldn't have to worry about repealing it.

But here's the way this was set up, and we've so lost this.

Here's how this was set up.

The people

have to be listened to.

This is we the people.

And so they gave us a representative government, all those representatives.

This is why, you know, California has, you know, I don't know, 400, and Texas has 1,000 representatives, you know, and Delaware gets Joe Biden on Tuesdays.

When he's not on the damn track.

Right.

When they're in the House of Representatives, it is representative of the general population of each state.

And they have the fastest throw-em out policy.

Every two years, you can throw those guys out.

That's where they put the power of the purse strings.

So if somebody goes in there and they're like, you know what?

We need 90% taxes.

You know, in two years, if the American people are against it, they can throw them out.

All right.

Then you're supposed to have the balance of the Senate, which was two people selected by the state,

not by the voters, but by the state house.

The governor in the state house was supposed to say, we're going to pick two people that are as Maine as possible, as Minnesotan as possible.

And we're going to send those guys because they have to stand guard for the state.

So the House of Representatives represents the people,

the Senate represents the state,

and the president represents the president and just trying to CEO all of this stuff together.

So you had to have the

president have the final say, and he's only supposed to veto if it is unconstitutional or he believes it's unconstitutional.

If he doesn't like it, it doesn't matter.

The veto is for unconstitutional things.

And that's been dead for a long, long time.

So we've completely screwed this system up.

But what good is the power of the purse

if

you can't stop anything?

Well, you can.

You just have to go through the system of government that we have, I guess.

You know, I mean, you have a situation.

This happened with the whole emergency declaration argument, right?

Like it's like, well, Congress passes a law that says we want to give the president a chance to declare an emergency for a short period of time, but we would have a chance to override it with a veto, essentially.

You know, Congress, all they have to do is just pass a majority and it's over.

Well, that went to the Supreme Court and was ruled unconstitutional.

So that's why they needed to have

the override of the veto vote, which is a much higher standard, much more difficult to pull off, to block the emergency declaration.

And they were not able to do it.

They were not able to come up with those votes.

The same thing here with the evidence.

They don't have the votes in either House to overturn the veto.

Maybe I think this is just different for me because it's war.

It's war.

People are being killed.

And if the president decides to go in, I give the president, I think the president needs to have the ability to go, guys, this just happened.

DEF CON one, go now.

Okay, he needs that.

Very reasonable.

Right.

In George Washington's time, maybe not.

But you need it in today's world where a jet can be or a missile can be over our cities in 13 minutes.

And I think that's an argument to, by the way, amend the Constitution for something like that.

They would give a window, but to just pass a bill and then, I mean, it's seemingly by multiple presidents in a row here being ignored.

The idea that the Constitution

gives Congress this declaration of war power, that that is being ignored.

And then even the War Powers Act has been ignored by multiple presidents in a row.

Again, if you look at George W.

Bush, he still took his power seriously.

He still had the power.

Man, those Jets were over in Afghanistan.

He, you know, he moved when he had to.

But he also knew when you were dealing with something that was dicey, that the American people are split on, go to Congress.

It's only good for you, I think.

It's good for the country, right?

I mean, you want people on record saying that you only want to go to war when you don't want that to be a partisan issue, right?

You want that to be something that we're all behind, or at least the vast majority are.

And you want to avoid it in most circumstances.

And, you know, I understand that this is a dicey situation over there.

I mean, it is, they talk about it as the biggest human rights situation in the world right now in Yemen.

It's a disaster over there, and it's a proxy war.

But we're involved in it.

And if we're going to be involved in it, there's a good case to be involved in it if you want to.

And people have made it.

It should be something that is approved by Congress.

It shouldn't just be something that presidents can just start doing.

And by the way, the president that did this was Barack Obama.

Yeah.

No, this is not Donald Trump.

This is Barack Obama.

I was against it under Barack Obama.

And Donald Trump, one of the things that he said, he was going to stop these endless wars and he was going to get us out of these foreign entanglements.

And I wish he would take this as one of those wars that need to be stopped.

Or make the case.

Make the case.

Because I know why we're in that proxy war.

It is to stop Iran.

And

the Houthi rebels rebels in Yemen are big problems to Saudi Arabia.

So to balance the region, you want to keep the Houthi rebels at bay so Saudi Arabia doesn't collapse, which would give all the power to Iran.

I get it.

I don't want to be in that war.

I don't want anything to do with it.

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A very well-respected survey, it's been a barometer of American politics, culture, and behavior for more than four decades.

Started to ask the critical question that they've never asked before:

cat or dog?

In 2018, 2018, General Social Survey for the very first time included a battery of questions on pet ownership, finds that not only quantified the nation's pet population, nearly six in ten households have at least one, but they made it possible to see how pet ownership overlaps with all sorts of factors of interest for social scientists, like happiness.

For starters, there is little difference between pet owners and non-owners when it comes to happiness.

Okay, so you own a pet, you don't own a pet.

you're about equal in happiness.

The two groups are indistinguishable, indistinguishable on the likelihood of identifying as very happy,

a little over 30% or not too happy in the mid-teens.

But when you break the data down to pets, dogs, cats, or both, the divide emerges.

Dog owners are about twice as likely as cat owners to say they're happy.

Now this is people owning a a dog or a cat.

If they own both,

it's almost as if

it negates itself.

Right.

No effect.

No effect.

Okay.

Dog people, in other words, according to the survey, are slightly happier than those without any pets.

Those in the cat camp, on the other hand, are significantly less happy than the petless.

Okay?

So if you have a cat,

you're miserable.

You're miserable.

And this is obvious.

You're on the road to socialism.

You own a cat.

You're on the road.

You're at least a progressive.

Why are you on the road to socialism?

You may not even think so.

You just are.

You just are.

You just are.

Why are you on the road to socialism?

Because you're because you have no feelings.

Cats have contempt.

Okay?

Cats have contempt for human beings.

Is this in the study?

It could be.

I don't.

Maybe.

Yeah.

A 2016 study of dog and cat owners, on the other hand, yielded greater happiness rating for dog owners relative to cat people.

It attributed the contrast, at least in part, to differences in personality.

Dog owners tend to be more agreeable.

Conservatives.

Conservatives are more agreeable.

We're more agreeable.

We're more likely, it says in the study, it does say this, that they are more likely to just go out and make friends

and they're just walking the dog and they're like, hey, and they start talking about things and they just are agreeable people.

Someone said more agreeable on issues of principle.

They're more extroverted and less, and

this is from the survey.

This is not me, and less neurotic than cat owners.

This is like your study.

Did you design this thing?

2015 study linked the presence of a cat in the home to fewer negative emotions, but no increase in positive ones.

Dog owners are more likely to engage in outdoor physical activity than people who don't own dogs.

Cat lovers generally stay in their house.

They should.

Look, you can have one cat.

You can marry somebody who has a cat.

You have a cat.

You can have two cats.

I'll even give you three cats.

Once you hit over three cats, unless you live on a farm, Department of Homeland Security is coming because you're going to turn into one of those crazy cat people.

Anyway,

and that's in the study, obviously.

It is someplace, I'm sure.

Dog owners are more likely to seek comfort

from their pets in times of stress, more likely to play with their pet and consider their pet a member of the family.

This is what Ernam Hemingwin said.

Human beings, for one reason or another, hide their feelings, but a cat does not.

Yeah.

And human beings don't crap in a box in the laundry room either.

And

I think that's the real key.

If you're crapping in a box by the laundry,

no,

you're not staying in my house.

You're listening to Glenn Beck.