Means Nothing? | Guest: Sen. Ben Sasse | 2/27/19

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Speaker 2 If you listen to the press, oh, we've got him now.

Speaker 6 How many times have we heard this?

Speaker 7 Today is a big day because today,

Speaker 16 Michael Cohen, who is a lying piece of crap scumbag, who we have been on the record on this program, you know, even during the election, saying Michael Cohen is a lying piece of crap scumbag that you can't trust.

Speaker 20 Now,

Speaker 21 the media who hated him loves him.

Speaker 24 And he's going to testify and he's got some evidence.

Speaker 3 Does he?

Speaker 29 We're going to go over what he's going to talk about in about an hour in front of Congress and

Speaker 33 how we can predict exactly what the press is going to say.

Speaker 21 We begin there in one minute.

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Speaker 28 I have asked the committee to ensure that my family be protected from presidential threats and the committee be sensitive to the questions pertaining to ongoing investigations.

Speaker 40 I'm here under oath to correct the record, to answer the committee's questions truthfully, and offer the American people what I know about President Trump.

Speaker 13 I recognize that some of you may have doubt an attack on my credibility.

Speaker 83 Yeah,

Speaker 53 every American, both Republican, Democrat, in the press, out of the press, everyone should have deep questions about this man's credibility.

Speaker 86 This guy has been a weasel, I think, probably since birth.

Speaker 8 He is a bad, bad guy.

Speaker 55 If you remember, one of our problems, in fact, one of our biggest problems with Donald Trump, and the reason why we said you can't trust him, is because he used to always say, I've got the best people around me, and they were the worst people.

Speaker 51 In particular, Cohen was one of them at the top of our list.

Speaker 46 Bannon was at the top of our list.

Speaker 90 Roger Stone.

Speaker 91 Roger Stone was at the top of the list.

Speaker 93 You had Manafort.

Speaker 43 And we told you all of the things that were going to happen

Speaker 36 because of these people.

Speaker 46 Now that these people are gone, it's a lot better.

Speaker 36 But it's these people that have gotten him into so much hot water and so much trouble.

Speaker 52 They were not trustworthy then.

Speaker 19 They're not trustworthy now.

Speaker 14 So, what does the testimony of Michael Cohen even mean?

Speaker 20 Nothing.

Speaker 45 Nothing.

Speaker 40 Unless he has evidence, which they say he's going to be

Speaker 62 presenting evidence.

Speaker 86 You know, we'll wait and see.

Speaker 25 I've heard a lot of things, too, and monkeys will fly out of your butt when they actually, when the media starts to get things right on this case.

Speaker 17 So what is he going to be talking about today?

Speaker 97 Yeah, and I'm glad you said it up that way because it's important to

Speaker 97 you see that a lot of people who were big Trump defenders in the media were saying Michael Cohen was a great guy, and now they're saying he's a terrible guy.

Speaker 97 And the media was all saying Michael Cohen was a terrible guy, and now they're saying he's a great guy. Now they're all over him as the most credible person in the entire universe.

Speaker 97 He has never been credible.

Speaker 97 If what he goes to prison for is one 1,000th of the crimes he's committed in his life, I would be stunned. Me too.

Speaker 97 So, I mean, you cannot take anything that he says

Speaker 97 seriously unless he has significant evidence to back it up. But maybe we should go through this.
I mean, look, everyone's still going to be talking about it, and you should know what's in it. And

Speaker 17 we have Jason Buttrill in with us, and Jason is going to be monitoring in our number two. He's going to be monitoring the testimony.
So he's listening

Speaker 86 so we don't have to.

Speaker 93 And we're having,

Speaker 26 you have this show, so you don't have to do it. So we are passing the buck, and we're giving it to Jason, our head researcher, just to follow, and we'll break in if there's anything big.

Speaker 97 I'm thrilled personally because you usually have have to read like a 500-page report.

Speaker 38 I just have to listen to it.

Speaker 38 This is easy. This is easy.

Speaker 97 So what we have here is a 20-page document. It is from Michael Cohen.
It is reportedly,

Speaker 97 by all accounts, his

Speaker 97 prepared opening statement today in the testimony.

Speaker 98 So he says he's ashamed.

Speaker 17 He's ashamed of his failings. He's ashamed of his weakness.
He's ashamed of his misplaced loyalty.

Speaker 10 He's ashamed of the things I did for Mr.

Speaker 17 Trump. I'm ashamed that I chose to take part in concealing Mr.

Speaker 52 Trump's illicit acts.

Speaker 17 I'm ashamed that because I know what Mr. Trump is,

Speaker 11 I'm quoting, he's a racist, he's a con man, he's a cheat.

Speaker 97 And that's kind of the setup of it. I guess you can, why don't we go through each claim? Sure.
And maybe you can tell me, Glenn, do you think this is going to be effective of the American people?

Speaker 38 How do they react to it? Yes.

Speaker 97 All right.

Speaker 97 I'll go to, let's start here.

Speaker 97 He first starts off with the BuzzFeed report, which was about how Michael Cohen was told specifically from Donald Trump to lie to Congress.

Speaker 97 Cohen refutes that at some level. He says, Mr.
Trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress. That's not how he operates.

Speaker 97 In conversations we had during the campaign, the same time I was actively negotiating in Russia for him, he would look me in the eye and tell me there's no business in Russia and then go out and lie to the American people by saying the same thing.

Speaker 97 In his way, he was telling me to lie.

Speaker 33 Well, I believe that to be true, but I don't think the American people are going to care.

Speaker 97 And

Speaker 97 this has already already come out, right?

Speaker 90 Look, we know that

Speaker 97 he said there was no business in Russia, and he did have the signed letter of intent. That's all come out.

Speaker 21 Is there anybody?

Speaker 13 I mean, when people said, I'm not electing a pope, I'm electing a president.

Speaker 9 Yeah,

Speaker 54 what you were really saying was, look, I know this guy is dirty, but I don't care.

Speaker 97 The New York real estate business is no.

Speaker 22 Right.

Speaker 100 It's shady.

Speaker 32 It's dirty.

Speaker 44 So I don't think, I think, to me, it matters, okay?

Speaker 33 But it mattered during the election.

Speaker 97 americans americans made their choice and they chose it's been to go with a guy who they knew was shady it's been priced in right on donald so i don't think this is going to matter okay um there were at least a half dozen times uh between the iowa caucus in january 2016 and the end of june where he would ask me how is it going in russia again insinuating that he was all over this the entire time and then lied about it but again that's kind of kind of what we know about that.

Speaker 97 Another one that's interesting is he says, you need to know Mr.

Speaker 97 Trump's personal lawyers reviewed and edited my statement to Congress about the timing of the Moscow negotiations before I gave it, saying it was not his own lie, but the lawyers actually,

Speaker 38 I guess, were part of this.

Speaker 97 He's essentially accusing the lawyers of intentionally

Speaker 97 lying to Congress as well. They're proving his statements.

Speaker 97 He says, again, to be clear, Mr. Trump knew of and directed the Trump-Moscow negotiations throughout the campaign and lied about it.
He lied about it because he never expected to win the election.

Speaker 97 He also lied about it because he stood to make hundreds of millions of dollars on the Moscow real estate project. Anything new there that you think would be impactful? Nope.

Speaker 97 Yeah, I don't think so either. Nope.

Speaker 97 Okay.

Speaker 71 You're the one who raised your hand. The other attorneys did not.

Speaker 37 You raised your hand.

Speaker 97 Okay. He says

Speaker 97 Trump never expected to win the primary, never expected to win the election. The campaign for him was always a marketing opportunity.

Speaker 49 I agree with that.

Speaker 97 He also says that Trump would often say the campaign was going to be the greatest infomercial in political history.

Speaker 49 I agree with that.

Speaker 97 But again, not an impactful

Speaker 97 on the administration in any way. He says, I knew early on that Trump would direct me to lie to further his business interests.

Speaker 97 I'm ashamed to say that when it was for a real estate mogul in the private sector, I considered it trivial. As the president, I consider it significant and dangerous.

Speaker 22 I don't believe that at all.

Speaker 97 This is the type of thing where you can't believe Cohen at all.

Speaker 22 I don't believe him.

Speaker 97 Lying is his first language.

Speaker 82 His first.

Speaker 97 And he has no credibility.

Speaker 97 When he has these little moral moments throughout this thing, I don't take any of that seriously. Nope.
I think right now he's decided this is the thing he wants to do, which is

Speaker 97 take down Donald Trump with some things that may be true, some things that may not. The bottom line is, though, that's his motivation now, and it should be seen through that lens.

Speaker 10 This is a mobster that would say, you know, when I was killing, you know, when I was killing Vito the Shark and

Speaker 11 Tommy Knuckles, I didn't have a problem with it.

Speaker 81 But as soon as I had to kill, you know, their wives, well, then I really had a problem.

Speaker 96 Look, killing is killing.

Speaker 10 Yeah, right. Killing is killing.

Speaker 97 Tommy Knuckles. I like that.
Okay. A lot of people have asked me whether Mr.
Trump knew about the release of hacked Democratic National Committee emails ahead of time. The answer is yes.

Speaker 97 So this is another one where, okay, this has been one of the big accusations. Is there any evidence of this? Here's what he says.
In July 2016, days before the Democratic Convention, I was in Mr.

Speaker 97 Trump's office when his secretary announced Roger Stone was on the phone. Mr.
Trump put Mr. Stone on the speakerphone.
Mr. Stone told Mr.

Speaker 97 Trump that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange, and Mr.

Speaker 97 Assange told Stone that within a couple of days there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton's campaign. Mr.

Speaker 97 Trump responded by stating to the effect, wouldn't that be great?

Speaker 73 I believe that.

Speaker 97 You believe that happened? Yeah. Now, whether Stone actually talked to Assange, we don't know.
Yeah. He could have easily been puffing up this morning.

Speaker 39 Because Stone is a liar.

Speaker 90 Stone's also. Stone is a guy who

Speaker 104 would lie to Trump to

Speaker 36 raise his position in the organization.

Speaker 56 So

Speaker 14 I don't know if Stone is lying or not.

Speaker 51 He may have, he may not have, but I do believe that Donald Trump is the guy who would have gotten on the phone with Stone and he would have said, hey, man, I just talked to Julian Assange, and I can't give you all the details, but something's coming out

Speaker 18 on Hillary.

Speaker 56 Wouldn't that be great?

Speaker 71 And that fits what happened in the timeline.

Speaker 46 It fits with him.

Speaker 66 Remember the press conference he gave?

Speaker 81 He said, hey, some things are going to be coming out.

Speaker 32 Remember that?

Speaker 93 In the last few days, the things are going to be coming out.

Speaker 59 So, yeah, it looks like that.

Speaker 54 Also, it fits to me.

Speaker 16 Remember, the only thing at that time that Trump, Trump's team, they say not Trump, but Trump's team, and I believe this

Speaker 61 between Stone and Manafort, it may have just been Trump's team and Trump just saying, hey, just take care of this.

Speaker 66 Let's just make sure we're friendly.

Speaker 33 Remember, the only thing they cared about in the platform was

Speaker 65 going soft on Russia's policy for the Ukraine.

Speaker 30 You remember?

Speaker 97 I do remember that story.

Speaker 10 And so that's all happening in the same week that this is.

Speaker 65 Is it going to matter?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 108 It didn't matter then.

Speaker 77 It won't matter now.

Speaker 97 Just to point out, that does contradict Stone's, the case, the government's case against Roger Stone.

Speaker 97 In his text messages, he kept repeatedly saying that no one from the Trump camp was listening to him as far as Assange's emails.

Speaker 97 He said he was reaching out to a guy that was unnamed, but we all know now that it was Steve Bannon. That was his contact.

Speaker 97 It was never directly with the president, according to his text messages and the federal government's indictment.

Speaker 97 But he kept saying, I'm reaching out to tell Steve Bannon this, but he's not listening.

Speaker 97 No one will listen to me on this.

Speaker 109 Again,

Speaker 97 you have to understand, you have to put Roger Stone in context. He very well could have been lying on all the text messages, too.

Speaker 3 He lies all the time.

Speaker 22 That's all he does.

Speaker 97 So you can't really, it's hard to get, it's interesting because we talked about this as people surrounding Trump during the campaign.

Speaker 97 A lot of them are

Speaker 97 sincerely problematic people that lie all the time in a way that inoculates Trump here because you can't trust any of the insiders.

Speaker 97 Any of them that have accounts against Donald Trump are so untrustworthy and been shown to be so untrustworthy so many times. You can't believe any of their claims.

Speaker 97 Even when they're texting about things that are bad for them or good for them, there's always an agenda behind it.

Speaker 15 Remember, it was Nixon's attorney that said under oath, like on a day like today, when they really didn't have anything, and he said under oath, I think the president has been taping our conversations.

Speaker 33 Well, as soon as that came out, then they started looking for the tapes.

Speaker 9 Right. And then that's why

Speaker 34 Watergate broke apart, was because of

Speaker 55 Nixon's attorney testifying and testifying that he thought the president was making tapes.

Speaker 17 But those guys didn't have any credibility either.

Speaker 13 They had no credibility.

Speaker 97 Well, Dean had more credibility than Stone or Cohen, though.

Speaker 111 Oh,

Speaker 22 absolutely.

Speaker 9 But they all went to jail as well.

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Speaker 59 Okay, so is there any disagreement where I've come down on this that I don't think any of this makes a difference?

Speaker 114 So far, no, I don't think so.

Speaker 97 Total distraction.

Speaker 19 No need to worry about it at this point.

Speaker 97 So the next is: Mr. Trump is a racist.
We're going through Michael Cohen's testimony, so you don't have to.

Speaker 97 So, Michael Cohen says that Mr. Trump is a racist.
The country has seen Mr. Trump court white supremacists and bigots.

Speaker 83 You have heard him call poorer countries assholes.

Speaker 97 That would be

Speaker 22 S-H-I-T-holes.

Speaker 97 The reason I say that is because I'm fascinated by CNN right now, who just like a little child that has a free pass to use a naughty word on TV, continues to say the full word every time.

Speaker 97 Like, there's, okay, the first day, maybe you have an argument to use the full word so people know what it is.

Speaker 97 It's been six months since this accusation came out or more, and they still on morning television are saying the full word.

Speaker 97 They just like love the idea that they get to say this swear word on TV and it's embarrassing. Okay, next up.
He once asked if I could if

Speaker 97 I could name a country. This is Cohen speaking.
He once asked me if I could name a country run by a black person that wasn't an asshole.

Speaker 61 United States of America.

Speaker 97 This is when Barack Obama was president of the United States, as he knows.

Speaker 64 United States of America.

Speaker 94 Right.

Speaker 97 I mean, I wasn't quizzing you to see if you could name one.

Speaker 38 I'm saying this is Michael Cohen's accusation.

Speaker 72 I could have said under Nelson Mandela,

Speaker 64 South Africa.

Speaker 97 The point here, though, is not whether you can come up with one. The point is that that's the way Trump's thinking.
However, again, it's Cohen's word means nothing to me.

Speaker 38 Nothing.

Speaker 97 Michael Cohen's word means nothing. That's the download here.

Speaker 97 Next up, he says, while we were once driving through a struggling neighborhood in Chicago, he commented that only black people could live that way.

Speaker 97 Again,

Speaker 97 if he had a tape of that, that would be pretty freaking significant.

Speaker 97 The fact that he doesn't means it means nothing because it's Michael Cohen speaking and Michael Cohen's word means nothing. Zero.
Next up,

Speaker 97 he told me that black people would never vote for him because they were too stupid. If they have a tape of that, that would be a huge deal.

Speaker 97 He doesn't. It's Michael Cohen's word and Michael Cohen's word means nothing.

Speaker 17 He also said that if he was ever going to run for president, he'd run as a Republican because Republicans were too stupid.

Speaker 38 That's not a real question.

Speaker 32 Right?

Speaker 38 Right? Yeah, that's not true.

Speaker 13 But that's out on the internet and everything else.

Speaker 65 He's also said that.

Speaker 76 Well, has he?

Speaker 97 No, he hasn't.

Speaker 53 That's a hoax.

Speaker 97 I mean, so, again.

Speaker 30 How do you know what's real or not without a tape?

Speaker 86 Well, and that's even going away.

Speaker 104 Right now.

Speaker 97 At least the tape proves it right now. I mean, in a few years with AI and deep fakes and such, it's a few years it won't make a difference.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 97 Okay, so that's the racist stuff. That's the extent of the accusations on the racist stuff.

Speaker 97 So, I mean, really what you have is Michael Cohen recounting three conversations or comments from Trump, in which he has absolutely no evidence of, really, seemingly by his own word.

Speaker 97 He does outline evidence for some of these things, none of the racist things he has any evidence for.

Speaker 118 No, it will make a difference only to people like Kamala Harris.

Speaker 52 Do we have the audio of Kamala Harris yesterday being asked, do you think that Donald Trump is a racist?

Speaker 119 President Trump a racist?

Speaker 119 Well, look, when you talk about his statement on that, when you talk about him calling African countries ass-hole countries, when you talk about him referring to immigrants as rapists and murderers, I don't think you can reach any other conclusion.

Speaker 97 So you definitely

Speaker 119 would agree that he's a racist. I do.
Yes. Yes.

Speaker 119 Yes.

Speaker 98 You're telling me that Haiti isn't a crap hole?

Speaker 97 I mean, it's had a lot of problems.

Speaker 93 Yeah, it's had a lot of problems.

Speaker 20 I'm not saying why it's a crap hole or anything else, but it's a crap hole.

Speaker 67 And there are really good people trying to help Haiti out, so it's not a crap hole anymore, including their new president.

Speaker 68 But, I mean,

Speaker 30 if we can't recognize that there's some real crap hole countries,

Speaker 118 Iran is one.

Speaker 51 You know, I don't, do you want to live there?

Speaker 17 Because I don't. Yeah,

Speaker 22 think I've got to.

Speaker 97 Do you want to move there? Yeah.

Speaker 97 If your answer is no, I mean, it's not a

Speaker 22 racist. It just makes you

Speaker 4 a truth teller.

Speaker 101 Look, there are places that are crappy in the world.

Speaker 114 China is crappy.

Speaker 56 Not Beijing,

Speaker 97 but China.

Speaker 38 Not Hong Kong.

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Speaker 59 We're going to be talking about the Cohen testimony as it begins here in about 35 minutes.

Speaker 28 Pat Gray is joining us now.

Speaker 46 There is something that's really interesting.

Speaker 7 This whole system is already beginning to fall apart, even before it has really even been fully implemented, and that is now with transgender.

Speaker 7 The truth is that women and men are built differently.

Speaker 11 That's science.

Speaker 22 Wow, did you hear that?

Speaker 22 On the radio.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I did.

Speaker 93 I did.

Speaker 91 So they're built differently.

Speaker 14 And now who's suffering?

Speaker 91 The girls in school.

Speaker 63 The girls who are losing their scholarships to go to college.

Speaker 54 They're losing them to guys

Speaker 14 who now are transitioning to be women because they're faster runners.

Speaker 19 And they don't think that's fair.

Speaker 63 What a surprise.

Speaker 126 In Connecticut, it happened with two girls, two trans girls in one race. The top two winners were both transgender.

Speaker 127 I mean, so it's really starting to affect women's sports, and they're not happy about it.

Speaker 126 And when they speak out about it, they get beat to a pulp because you're not supposed to say anything.

Speaker 56 They just kicked Billie Jean King out of the, I don't know, the clubhouse.

Speaker 126 Martina Navitalova.

Speaker 56 No, Billie Jean King too. Billie Jean too? Yeah.
Billie Jean King this week.

Speaker 11 Wow.

Speaker 35 Martina Navitalova.

Speaker 20 Last week. Last week.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 34 So they are.

Speaker 126 That's incredible. And here's.

Speaker 91 These are people who stood.

Speaker 53 They were pioneers.

Speaker 13 This is like kicking Martin Luther King out of a civil rights group today.

Speaker 43 And believe me, if Martin Luther King were alive, they would kick him out.

Speaker 125 It's probably true.

Speaker 6 First of all, he was way too religious, that guy.

Speaker 129 Yeah, they were irreverent before his name.

Speaker 130 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 97 That's unbelievable. Yeah.
I mean, and he talked a lot about personal responsibility. I mean, he talked a lot about being

Speaker 38 not colorblind.

Speaker 14 It's wrong now to be colorblind.

Speaker 93 Yeah. Wait a minute.

Speaker 129 I thought that was the point.

Speaker 58 You thought wrong.

Speaker 93 And

Speaker 127 gender is about identity and feelings.

Speaker 97 Feelings.

Speaker 22 Morris Albert sings about.

Speaker 38 That's not what you're supposed to base gender on. Right.

Speaker 129 I remember that going.

Speaker 38 Come on.

Speaker 97 I remember watching, because we were talking about this.

Speaker 97 What's the difference here between gender? Like, we're describing something, right? There are organs on a person, and that's what we're describing. And they seem to be describing something else.

Speaker 97 And we were watching, this is when Pat, we were on Pat and Stew, and we watched a clip about Ellen talking about it. And she said, gender is a feeling you have in your brain

Speaker 97 or in your heart.

Speaker 20 That's right.

Speaker 3 And it's like, well, that,

Speaker 97 I mean,

Speaker 97 talking about your feelings may have value, but I don't think it has value in this conversation. Well, wait a minute.

Speaker 50 If that is true, fine.

Speaker 11 Then we need to use science and talk about the body, not your feeling, when you're competing with sports.

Speaker 44 You're only hurting the girls. You're hurting the girls.

Speaker 38 And this is proof positive

Speaker 54 that socialism will never take hold.

Speaker 57 You'll have to kill millions of people because socialism, as I'm going to explain in my CPAC speech, has nothing to do with fairness or justice, has nothing to do with it.

Speaker 43 Okay. that's not its goal.

Speaker 109 That's the goal of the free market system.

Speaker 52 That's the goal of a constitutional republic is justice, as close as we can get to justice.

Speaker 44 Here's what's happening.

Speaker 54 Americans are fair. Americans are open.

Speaker 26 Americans do not want to judge their neighbor and somebody who lives differently than them.

Speaker 46 For the most part, there are bigots on both sides.

Speaker 109 Okay.

Speaker 35 But for the most part, people are like, look, man, you want to call yourself a chick?

Speaker 52 Call yourself a chick, whatever.

Speaker 9 If you want to live like a woman, fine, do it.

Speaker 20 I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 109 However, when it starts to affect me

Speaker 64 and my life, then I have a problem.

Speaker 20 And you should. Right.

Speaker 51 And as it is now starting to trickle down into all of these kids that said, no, I'm for fairness.

Speaker 47 Well, yes, so are conservatives.

Speaker 112 So are constitutional libertarians.

Speaker 46 We are for being fair and open and decent.

Speaker 48 But once it starts to hinder your life and your rights, you don't have no one person has a right to trample on the rights of another.

Speaker 107 And by competing, if we're going to put men and women in the same sport, fine, then it makes no difference.

Speaker 11 But we separated because Americans knew scientifically men and women are built differently.

Speaker 76 They just are.

Speaker 44 And you have to reject all science to think differently.

Speaker 112 And so we separated them so it would be fair so the girls could win.

Speaker 44 What are the girls saying now in Connecticut?

Speaker 126 Yes, they're losing out on scholarships.

Speaker 46 It's just unfair.

Speaker 75 And they say they know what the outcome is before the race is even won.

Speaker 91 Yes.

Speaker 101 Before they even start, they know those people are going to win because they're built as a man.

Speaker 11 And so they're going to win.

Speaker 36 And they said, every race, it's the same.

Speaker 52 Why are we even racing?

Speaker 127 Yeah, and these are the kids who have been taught their whole lives that they should be inclusive and they want to be.

Speaker 126 They should be diverse and they want to be.

Speaker 127 And then they get to this

Speaker 127 and they're finding out that now there's some problems with all of that.

Speaker 22 Yeah, we want to be inclusive and we want to be diverse and all those things are great.

Speaker 5 But there's also fact.

Speaker 126 There's also science and reason and logic.

Speaker 127 And it's not logical for these, you know, these are identifying as women, but they got a man unit in their pants.

Speaker 129 That makes it different.

Speaker 38 It does a testosterone. That makes it different.

Speaker 55 The man unit besides the testosterone doesn't matter.

Speaker 11 It's the muscle mass and the bone stuff.

Speaker 126 Yeah, but it's because they have a man unit in their pants.

Speaker 38 They have a different muscle structure.

Speaker 97 Correct. And this is why we don't have kids making these decisions.
They eat paste, right? Like this is not tide pods. Yeah, tide pods.
Thank you.

Speaker 22 It's like, you know.

Speaker 76 I I got news for you.

Speaker 55 It's not kids making this decision.

Speaker 28 Those are adults that have been making these decisions.

Speaker 97 Right, but the kids have been grown up, are growing up under those conditions where that is now just the truth.

Speaker 22 They've bought into all that.

Speaker 97 They've bought into it.

Speaker 127 But now it's affecting them.

Speaker 97 Yeah. I mean, so I, you know, it kind of goes back to what I believe is the light in the life of one Pat Gray and the Pat Gray Unleashed program, which is liberals eating their own.

Speaker 97 And you watch this kind of go on. It's fun.
It is fun at some level. But I mean, like, you know, we talked about this a while ago.

Speaker 5 I mean, RuPaul got in trouble for saying the word tranny.

Speaker 116 Yes. Rue Paul.

Speaker 97 Jeez. We played the clip of Patton Oswald.
I don't think we have it around anymore, but of him, a progressive guy, going off on this and saying, can you believe? I mean, this is a guy who

Speaker 115 blazed paths.

Speaker 97 He's a guy who was on Logo, which is like the, you know, the gay cable network, you know, gay programming. He was had a big show on that network.

Speaker 97 He is a guy that everybody knew as a cross-dresser and someone who embraced these progressive values. Now he's becoming a victim because he used the word tranny, which is not even okay for him to use.

Speaker 115 It goes so far, so fast, because there's no principles here.

Speaker 97 It's all a moving target. It's all emotion.
And it's all emotion.

Speaker 18 Let me ask you this.

Speaker 19 Anybody noticed who one of the speakers is?

Speaker 100 It's CPAC.

Speaker 94 Glenn Beck?

Speaker 58 Well,

Speaker 11 Van Jones.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. What?

Speaker 94 Yeah.

Speaker 27 Van. Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 7 Jones.

Speaker 22 Which is an amazing world.

Speaker 97 Glenn Beck and Van Jones on a stage.

Speaker 22 at CPAC.

Speaker 38 That's fascinating. Wow, the world changes.

Speaker 99 So

Speaker 76 here's the thing.

Speaker 94 What's he talking about?

Speaker 38 I'm sure he's talking about justice

Speaker 67 and working together. And here's the thing.

Speaker 40 He's an outcast of the left.

Speaker 91 Of the left.

Speaker 39 He's an outcast.

Speaker 36 The guy was a communist.

Speaker 37 He's an outcast.

Speaker 96 The guy who I said 10 years ago is the most radical guy in the administration is not radical enough and is speaking at CPAC.

Speaker 134 So incredible.

Speaker 127 So incredible.

Speaker 63 It's incredible.

Speaker 127 So incredible.

Speaker 126 And with the transgender thing, you know, all across the nation, everybody's trying to figure out how to deal with it.

Speaker 125 In Texas, there's a rule that you've got to compete

Speaker 126 under the gender that's on your birth certificate.

Speaker 126 So that caused a problem because a girl who wanted to compete with boys and she's on the testosterone hormone treatment, so she's stronger and more agile and dominating in women's wrestling.

Speaker 126 But she had to. She wanted to compete against the boys.
They wouldn't let her.

Speaker 76 In Connecticut, it's different.

Speaker 127 It's the gender with which you'd identify.

Speaker 97 In Texas, are they doing the hormones because of a transition or is it just a matter of the same thing?

Speaker 38 Yeah, because of the transition. Because

Speaker 97 of the transition. So they can't, because you wouldn't normally be able to use, let's say, steroids, right?

Speaker 125 Right.

Speaker 126 And they make the exception for the translator.

Speaker 97 The trans person. And that's, again, where the issue begins.

Speaker 38 Excuse me, you shouldn't be able to.

Speaker 93 Yeah, it gets a lot of money.

Speaker 38 It's a chemistry issue. It's a problem.

Speaker 97 They're taking these things really for any reason. I mean, I think you'd feel bad if it was for like.

Speaker 125 That's why you get kicked out of Major League Baseball for taking testosterone.

Speaker 40 It makes you stronger and faster.

Speaker 111 Yeah. And it's Armstrong.

Speaker 97 It's really the best part of his situation.

Speaker 62 It's really, truly amazing how

Speaker 74 the effects are so clear and are going to pile up faster and faster once you start rejecting science,

Speaker 45 once you reject science, I mean, that's why

Speaker 45 that's the meaning behind my last book.

Speaker 54 It's science and it's dismantling absolutely everything in our society.

Speaker 103 Once you start to dismantle science, you can't go to the moon anymore

Speaker 78 because

Speaker 76 two plus two equals five.

Speaker 109 Sometimes.

Speaker 93 Yeah. Well, what?

Speaker 87 You can't do anything.

Speaker 39 Our whole world

Speaker 108 is based upon science and empirical evidence.

Speaker 104 Now,

Speaker 122 nothing is.

Speaker 122 Nothing is.

Speaker 126 And isn't it fascinating that they used to throw that around at us, that we're the science deniers? And now it's the Democrats who are denying science on whether a fetus is a human being.

Speaker 3 Whether a baby is a human being.

Speaker 127 When a baby is a human being, and it's not what's in your pants that decides. It's how you feel in your head that decides your gender.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 125 No, it isn't.

Speaker 22 No, it isn't.

Speaker 104 Now,

Speaker 58 to be

Speaker 30 American,

Speaker 57 if you want to say you're a woman and you're a man, because that's the way you feel, and you have a gender issue, okay.

Speaker 122 Go ahead.

Speaker 11 And I might even call you ma'am.

Speaker 73 Because I don't need to hurt your feelings.

Speaker 6 I don't need to prove anything to you or whatever.

Speaker 34 I don't, you know, it depends on how deep this goes and if I, how much I have to, you know,

Speaker 27 honor your delusion.

Speaker 17 I'm not going to go down that road, but to be polite, I'm living next to a guy who dresses like a woman.

Speaker 65 I'm going to tell my kids, yeah, he's got some gender issues.

Speaker 68 You know what, but he's our neighbor.

Speaker 44 We love him.

Speaker 57 Just be polite.

Speaker 43 You know, say, good morning, ma'am, or whatever.

Speaker 9 Okay, let's just be cool with each other.

Speaker 6 Americans want to live that way.

Speaker 19 They just don't want it forced down their throat.

Speaker 96 And that means they don't want somebody saying, you're gay.

Speaker 51 No, you can't love another person of your gender.

Speaker 91 You can't do that. You can't do that.

Speaker 94 They don't want that either.

Speaker 108 They just want, oh, you're gay.

Speaker 71 Oh, you're living with another person of your gender.

Speaker 109 Okay.

Speaker 52 Kids, that's homosexuality.

Speaker 19 We think it's wrong. They think it's right.

Speaker 30 Okay, move on with your life.

Speaker 53 That's what America wants.

Speaker 26 And for some reason,

Speaker 39 there are others, well, I don't need to say for some reason, for reasons of power and control and manipulation, they must have us all think alike.

Speaker 98 They must have us toe the line, whatever that line is today.

Speaker 52 It'll be different tomorrow, but we must all learn.

Speaker 27 You tow the line.

Speaker 33 That's the end of America. That's the end of the American experiment.

Speaker 86 That's the end of everything we are a species.

Speaker 8 That's what this battle is about.

Speaker 27 And we are at the end of this battle.

Speaker 118 Now, it's going to go on.

Speaker 31 If they win, it's going to go on until they are thwarted 100 years from now, maybe longer than that because of technology.

Speaker 54 But that battle will continue one way or another.

Speaker 36 But we are about to be put in a cage.

Speaker 123 I mean, I don't know if you realize, 5G, that decision is being made right now.

Speaker 95 They are building

Speaker 99 a rat trap.

Speaker 11 China is building a rat trap.

Speaker 87 We're at the height of the Cold War with the missiles,

Speaker 122 and we don't even know it.

Speaker 53 Nobody's even talking about it.

Speaker 102 In the next six to 18 months, places like Germany and Britain and Australia, they're all deciding whether whether or not, yeah, we can have Huawei technology for our 5G.

Speaker 122 If that technology is put in, China rules all information.

Speaker 47 They have access to

Speaker 20 every single gas line that runs around the world.

Speaker 101 They win every war before a bullet is ever fought.

Speaker 53 And what are we talking about?

Speaker 39 We're talking about Cohen.

Speaker 75 Get your priorities together, America.

Speaker 103 Science matters.

Speaker 77 Facts matter.

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Speaker 16 We've got testimony happening right now with the oversight committee.

Speaker 59 Why this is happening while our president is in major negotiations?

Speaker 56 Why?

Speaker 132 Well, because this is not a legal proceeding, this is a political proceeding.

Speaker 56 Michael Cohen, a completely

Speaker 105 discredited witness, now suddenly has a lot of credibility with the Democrats, and we're going to hear his testimony as we go.

Speaker 75 First, let me start here.

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Speaker 64 Jason says there's already fireworks.

Speaker 79 He's listening to it, so we don't have to.

Speaker 99 Already fireworks in this?

Speaker 97 Already fireworks. Congressman Meadows is like just lit it up the Congressman Cummings.

Speaker 20 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Cummings.

Speaker 97 He's talking about how they didn't have enough time to respond. They were like, CNN and Politico had this before we did his testimony.
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Speaker 99 The guy has no credibility.

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Speaker 56 Okay, so what are they voting for now?

Speaker 12 They're voting to postpone or not?

Speaker 97 Rather to continue with his testimony, and it's going purely partisan lines right now. All the Democrats just voted and they said yes, he should.

Speaker 97 And now the Republicans are voting saying no, he should not do his testimony. They want time, more time, to look through his testimony and rip it apart.

Speaker 67 That's what they said. Okay, now they had the,

Speaker 55 is his testimony the opening statement?

Speaker 97 Yeah, that's his opening statement.

Speaker 38 It's 20 pages long to get on with this nonsense.

Speaker 97 I mean, can we get it over with? I just want this. I want the report to come out.
I want this to go away. How long do we have to deal with this?

Speaker 97 I mean, the 20 pages are filled with a bunch of accusations that,

Speaker 97 if true, could be significant. However, they are not significant because Michael Cohen's the one saying them.
There is evidence for some of them, and those I think are worth reviewing.

Speaker 97 But we went through about half of them before. Maybe we can go through the rest if you want.
Yeah.

Speaker 97 We're going through Michael Cohen's testimony, so you don't have to. Right.

Speaker 53 So bring this up.

Speaker 17 Jason's going to listen to it, but bring it up just a little bit.

Speaker 102 And if there's something significant where he starts to talk and he's into one of these significant places, then we'll bring it up.

Speaker 66 Okay, so

Speaker 7 he's going to make today several allegations

Speaker 19 against Donald Trump.

Speaker 97 Yeah, we went through some of them that he made racist comments with no backing, no evidence at all of them.

Speaker 97 Things about whether he talked to Russia. He claims there's a phone call that happened, as Jason pointed out in hour one.
It disagrees with the case against Roger Stone that this call ever occurred.

Speaker 97 But he's claiming it, but again, with no evidence.

Speaker 61 The FBI says that didn't happen, but Cohen is saying it did.

Speaker 99 It did.

Speaker 97 He goes on to talk about Mr. Trump being a cheat.
This is what he says.

Speaker 97 As previously stated, he's giving three years of President Trump's financial statements from 2011 to 2013, which he gave to Deutsche Bank to inquire about a loan to buy the Buffalo Bills and to Forbes.

Speaker 97 These are exhibits he actually turned in. In my experience, it was Mr.

Speaker 97 Trump inflating his total assets when it served his purposes, such as trying to be listed among the wealthiest people in Forbes, and deflating his assets to reduce his real estate taxes.

Speaker 97 There was a big New York Times investigation about this, I think it was last year.

Speaker 97 You know, if he did do that,

Speaker 97 especially in some official way to lower his real estate taxes, that would be obviously a serious issue.

Speaker 97 Most of the accusations in the Times piece were very old, going back to the 80s.

Speaker 97 So I don't know that

Speaker 33 they didn't have anything new.

Speaker 65 That's why. And that's why they're saying

Speaker 7 release

Speaker 94 the tax papers so they have something new to go off of to see how he manipulates things, if indeed he does.

Speaker 97 Also, he is giving them two newspaper articles side by side that are examples of Mr. Trump inflating and deflating his assets.

Speaker 94 And he's got newspaper articles.

Speaker 99 He's got two of them.

Speaker 97 And he's placed them side by side. Again, I would ask you: does any of this make a difference so far?

Speaker 38 Nope.

Speaker 97 Again, most people have made their mind up on Donald Trump, and they're not going to move either way. Here's another one that we've heard about.

Speaker 11 I want to say this: on income tax, especially, nobody's going to be surprised if a real estate mogul from New York City manipulates his tax return to not pay taxes.

Speaker 100 Should he?

Speaker 68 No. Is it illegal?

Speaker 57 Yes.

Speaker 102 Should he maybe, you know, get the full burden of the law and have to pay for that?

Speaker 76 Yes.

Speaker 97 And a fine, probably.

Speaker 68 However, this is getting Al Capone for income tax evasion.

Speaker 64 Exactly.

Speaker 97 Remember, this is supposed to be an investigation about whether Russia influenced the election.

Speaker 17 This is nothing new and nothing major.

Speaker 97 Mr. Trump directed me, Michael Cohen, to find a straw bidder to purchase a portrait of him that was being auctioned at an Art Hamptons event.

Speaker 97 The objective was to ensure that his portrait, which was going to be auctioned last, would go for the highest price of any portrait that afternoon.

Speaker 97 The portrait was purchased by the fake bidder for $60,000. Mr.

Speaker 97 Trump then directed the Trump Foundation, which is supposed to be a charitable organization, to repay the fake bidder despite keeping the art for himself.

Speaker 97 Now, the part of that that's there's part of it that's just embarrassing if you're paying if you're trying to get a bidder to bid up your own painting.

Speaker 97 The other part of that, though, is more serious, which is taking charitable funds and directing them for something that you purchase for yourself. That's not something you're really allowed to do.

Speaker 7 It was a charitable event.

Speaker 85 You Sometimes you pay way too much money at a charitable event because it's your way of giving.

Speaker 8 If he has that,

Speaker 42 you know, in the bylaws of the Trump charity, that he can, you know, he can go out and bid on things

Speaker 62 and, you know, and give that money to charity.

Speaker 9 That's a charity gift.

Speaker 17 Now you're getting something in exchange, but it's a stupid oil painting of you.

Speaker 61 You know,

Speaker 84 I think it's slimy, and it

Speaker 14 probably can't be done,

Speaker 73 but again, I don't think that's worth impeachment.

Speaker 38 No.

Speaker 97 And I think, again, like, I don't think anyone took the Trump Foundation seriously as a charity.

Speaker 97 I mean, it was a, if nothing else, a PR, you know, it was a way to get Trump good PR when he was a businessman.

Speaker 97 It's got still got nothing to do with these larger picture that we're really concerned about as a country, though it may wind up getting him a fine.

Speaker 45 I mean, so far you're

Speaker 86 telling America on the things that you say you have evidence on.

Speaker 33 You're telling America

Speaker 11 pretty much what America already knows about Donald Trump.

Speaker 8 He's an ego guy, driven by ego.

Speaker 101 He's slippery with all of the facts.

Speaker 86 He fudges things here and there.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 66 He hires dirtbags like Cohen.

Speaker 68 Yeah, we know it.

Speaker 97 We're monitoring the

Speaker 97 testimony as well. Jason, is there anything going on that we're missing at this point? Anything interesting? No, not really.

Speaker 97 Congressman Cummings is doing his basically his opening statement.

Speaker 97 He said that the first thing he came out with was he talks about the payoffs to the women. That's the first thing he let off with.

Speaker 97 He also said that, look, the credibility issue is a valid question, but he said the reason why we're justifying this is because of the additional documents that Cohen is going to release today.

Speaker 22 That's why he's saying that's now. All right.

Speaker 97 Going on to his testimony from Michael Cohen against Donald Trump, trying to figure out if anything here is going to change any minds.

Speaker 97 It says, it should come to no surprise that one of my more common responsibilities was that Mr.

Speaker 97 Trump directed me to call business owners, many of whom were small businesses, that were owed money for their services and told them no payment or a reduced payment would be coming. When I advised Mr.

Speaker 97 Trump of my success, he reveled in it.

Speaker 97 And yet I continued to work for him, quoting Michael Cohen. Now, we have heard this from several people that have worked for Donald Trump or done business with Donald Trump in the past.

Speaker 97 This was a business tactic of Trump. Trump would have Cohen or somebody else call up a business and say, Yeah, I owe you $100,000, but you know what? X, Y, and Z, I'm not doing it.
I'm giving you 50.

Speaker 97 And people would have to either fight back against Trump and say, no, you're paying me my entire amount, or they would have to take it. And

Speaker 97 it was not a thing where he was,

Speaker 97 it was his hard-nosed business tactic, right? Like he thought he could get a better price action.

Speaker 39 That's a scumbag business tactic.

Speaker 128 Whether it's a honorable thing or not is not a honor.

Speaker 38 It's not.

Speaker 22 I don't know.

Speaker 11 But listen, again,

Speaker 46 when I said in New York, you know, look at the guy who can get things done here is Donald Trump.

Speaker 18 You want a building built?

Speaker 7 You want the Freedom Tower built?

Speaker 52 Give it to Donald Trump.

Speaker 86 He'll have it built in six weeks.

Speaker 14 You don't want to know what he had to do to get it built.

Speaker 22 I mean, that's true today.

Speaker 14 You admire him for,

Speaker 50 you know, finding every single loophole and exploiting it to the max.

Speaker 6 It's not the way I want to live my life, but that's what he is. That's what he does.

Speaker 97 It's why a lot of people like the emergency declaration and why a lot of people don't like the emergency declaration.

Speaker 38 Exactly. It's the same thing.

Speaker 97 And by the way, he wrote about all this in his book. I mean, this is all he's acknowledged as far as generalized tactics.

Speaker 10 So far, nothing changes anything.

Speaker 97 Michael Cohen will say: I am giving the committee today a copy of the $130,000 wire transfer from me to Mrs. Clifford.

Speaker 97 That's the Stormy Daniels attorney during the closing days of the presidential campaign that was demanded by Daniels to maintain her silence about her affair with Mr. Trump.

Speaker 97 He does go on to say,

Speaker 97 Trump asked me, Michael Cohen, to pay off an adult film star with whom he had an affair and to lie to his wife about it, which I did. Lying to the first lady is one of my biggest regrets.

Speaker 97 She's a kind, good person. I respect her greatly, and she did not deserve that.

Speaker 97 Whether you believe Michael Cohen actually is having a moral moment or not.

Speaker 28 Again, if all of that is true, does that make a difference?

Speaker 97 I mean, mean, I don't know. I don't think so.
You can't trust Michael Cohen at all.

Speaker 13 Yeah, but legally, even if he wrote the checks and all of that is true.

Speaker 46 Well,

Speaker 97 again, there is an issue with campaign finance that could be a problem here. They will certainly go after it and try to make it into a problem.

Speaker 20 I think if he used his own money, wasn't it?

Speaker 19 Was it? I can't remember now.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 17 Was it that he used his own money was a problem or that he didn't use his own money was a problem?

Speaker 97 Well, Cohen is providing two checks, one from Donald Trump's personal account and one from the Trump organization. So at least it kind of doesn't matter.
They kind of came from anywhere.

Speaker 97 The question is: is his intent to hide the payments for a campaign use? Again, I think it's a stretch with the law.

Speaker 97 Can you bust somebody on that? Yes.

Speaker 97 Do you have to? Probably not. People get away with things like this all the time in the campaign finance.

Speaker 132 As much as I think it should be illegal, if you're paying people off to keep quiet while you're running for a campaign,

Speaker 99 I think that's bad news, but I don't think that's against the law.

Speaker 87 If you're using campaign money to do it,

Speaker 81 I don't think you can, right?

Speaker 52 Right, well, because that would be

Speaker 97 the problem is if he didn't, if he used campaign money and didn't disclose it, is the biggest problem. Right.
Which, of course, obviously the whole point of this was not to disclose it.

Speaker 97 So he didn't do that, we know. The question is, where did this money come from? There's no, by the way, signs that it came from the campaign.
Right.

Speaker 97 But that, you know, still, there are very strange lines around that.

Speaker 72 Again, I don't think anybody's position has changed.

Speaker 19 Those who hate Donald Trump hate Donald Trump.

Speaker 59 Those who like Donald Trump like Donald Trump.

Speaker 72 So far, nothing in his testimony, which, by the way, we're 20 minutes into his testimony, and Cummins is still talking.

Speaker 97 This is why we didn't start at the beginning because he's just blabbing on with a bunch of nonsense right now.

Speaker 19 We're going to get to his testimony here in just a second.

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Speaker 61 Quickly, give me an update, Jason, on what we missed, and then we'll take a little bit of the hearing.

Speaker 79 I think Jim Jordan is speaking, so we want to take some of that.

Speaker 97 It's pretty entertaining, actually. He's saying that this is going to go down in history as your first called witness is a liar to Congress.
So he's really coming strong on

Speaker 97 this is purely partisan.

Speaker 97 And yeah, there's no reason why a liar should be the first person you called in your committee.

Speaker 97 He's saying the whole thing's orchestrated by Lanny Davis, who's a known Clinton ally and has been for a very long time. So that's where this is.

Speaker 97 Can we pick up a little bit of the hearings here with Jim Jordan?

Speaker 120 This committee is actually encouraging a witness to violate attorney-client privilege.

Speaker 120 Mr. Chairman, when we legitimize dishonesty, we delegitimize this institution.
We're supposed to pursue the truth. But you have stacked the deck against the truth.

Speaker 120 We're only allowed to ask certain questions. Even with that amendment you just told us about, well, Russia's now on the table.

Speaker 120 You initially told us we can't ask questions about the special counsel, can't ask questions about the Southern District of New York, can't ask questions about Russia. Nope.

Speaker 120 Nope. The only subjects we can talk about are ones you think are going to be harmful to the President of the United States.

Speaker 120 And the answers to those questions are going to come from a guy who can't be trusted.

Speaker 120 Here's what the U.S. Attorney said about Mr.
Cohen. While Mr.
Cohen enjoyed a privileged life, his desire for ever greater wealth and influence precipitated an extensive course of criminal conduct.

Speaker 120 Mr. Cohen committed

Speaker 120 four distinct federal crimes over a period of several years. He was motivated to do so by personal greed and repeatedly.

Speaker 120 repeatedly used his power and influence for deceptive ends. But the Democrats don't care.
They don't care. They just want to use you, Mr.
Cohen. You're there, Patsy, today.

Speaker 120 They got to find somebody, somewhere to say something so they can try to remove the president from office.

Speaker 120 Because Tom Steyer told them to. Tom Steyer last week organized a town hall.
Guess where?

Speaker 120 Chairman Nadler's district in Manhattan. Two nights ago, Tom Steyer organized a town hall.
Guess where?

Speaker 120 Chairman Cummings' District in Baltimore.

Speaker 120 The best they can find,

Speaker 120 the best they can find to start this process,

Speaker 120 Michael Cohen.

Speaker 120 Fraudster, cheat, convicted felon, and in two months, a federal inmate. Oh, actually, they didn't find him.
Laney Davis found him. I'll say one thing about the Democrats.
They stick to the playbook.

Speaker 120 Remember.

Speaker 120 Remember how all this started.

Speaker 120 The Clinton campaign hired Perkins-Cooey law firm, who hired Glenn Simpson, who hired a foreigner, Christopher Steele, who put together the fake dossier that the FBI used to go get a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.

Speaker 120 But when that whole scheme failed and the American people said we're going to make Donald Trump president, they said we've got to do something else. So now,

Speaker 120 Clinton loyalist, Clinton operative Lanny Davis, has persuaded the chairman of the Oversight Committee to give a convicted convicted villain a forum to tell stories and lie about the president of the United States.

Speaker 120 So they can all start to get away from the city.

Speaker 62 Here's the thing, and Jordan has credibility with me.

Speaker 78 I don't know where he stood before on Cohen, but

Speaker 85 he's generally a good guy and generally cares about the truth and the system.

Speaker 17 But I will tell you this: the Republicans don't have any leg to stand on either.

Speaker 27 They loved Cohen when he was defending the president, and he had no credibility then either.

Speaker 97 Yeah, I like Jim Jordan, but Lanny Davis did not discover Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen was in the organization for a very long time.
That's why we know who he is.

Speaker 97 And he was on television, being sent on television to defend the president for a very long time.

Speaker 25 And a lot of people like that.

Speaker 75 And he was a liar then.

Speaker 17 He's a liar now.

Speaker 8 There's just not a lot to say.

Speaker 10 It's now 26 minutes into his testimony.

Speaker 54 He hasn't spoken a word.

Speaker 97 This is exactly what you'd expect from this. Jason, what do we get in here? We got about a minute before we have to go to break, and we're going to come back with more of the testimony.

Speaker 97 So Jordan was just, he yielded his time over just prematurely, but then he was like, oh, wait a minute. And then Cummings was like, no, nope, you yield your time.
And he's like, but I have a motion.

Speaker 97 And he's like, nope, I'm not going to hear your motion. You're done.
And then Jordan's like, oh, that's how you're going to operate?

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 116 I mean, this is getting fiery.

Speaker 97 It's just like, this is the show.

Speaker 97 It's a big show for both sides to get out their arguments and say that they're trying really hard and tough. And like, look, Jordan's correct here.
Cohen

Speaker 97 has zero credibility. Zero.
I mean, he has, it's really less than zero. The guy has been lying.
Basically, every time you've ever seen him speak, has been a lie.

Speaker 97 So to bring him in and act as if he's credible now is completely disingenuous from the Democrats.

Speaker 97 And it was also disingenuous from the Republicans when they were treating him credibly back in the day.

Speaker 72 You know what's amazing to me is we have actual issues going on.

Speaker 97 President's in North Korea. We are in Vietnam talking about North Korea.

Speaker 108 I mean, that's going on.

Speaker 96 Our special forces this week, it was found out, are now training for operations against China and Russia and de-emphasizing the Middle East and terror.

Speaker 20 This started because of China and Russia, and there's nobody talking about that.

Speaker 107 This is not about actually finding any truth and anything that is going to help the American people.

Speaker 17 This is a political and you said it right show.

Speaker 39 All the world has become a stage.

Speaker 43 And we're just watching a show while the real moves are being made by Russia and China and the financial and tech centers.

Speaker 63 What are we doing?

Speaker 68 What are we doing, America? Wake up.

Speaker 1 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

Speaker 67 You know what I'd like to do?

Speaker 78 I'd like to put all of these people, all of them, into a Liberty safe and then forget the combination.

Speaker 37 I think,

Speaker 62 I think we could, if we could just, we have to figure out a way to make one big enough, and then, I don't know, we put piles of, this is free money you can spend and no cameras.

Speaker 62 And then they'll all be lured in to like this giant politician trap, and then we close the Liberty Safe on them.

Speaker 97 and then we'll just like through the air holes just lower in food occasionally uh no i never thought of air holes yeah i'll consider it anyway liberty safe

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Speaker 9 i don't think that's where you're gonna finish your stupid right now liberty safe has a sale at your local cabela's local cabela's has the best built safe on the planet liberty safe libertysafe.com more of the testimony with Michael Cohen and all of his super truth coming up on the other side of the break here in the Glenbeck program.

Speaker 17 Ben Sass coming up in the Glenbeck program in just a few minutes.

Speaker 75 We are listening to Michael Cohen deliver his opening statement.

Speaker 61 He's currently talking about who he is, a loving father.

Speaker 2 Yeah, his first instinct comes because of his mom and dad.

Speaker 23 They were survivors of the Holocaust.

Speaker 124 As the many people that know me best would say,

Speaker 124 I am the person that they call at 3 a.m. if they needed help.

Speaker 124 I proudly remember being the emergency contact for many of my children's friends when they were growing up because their parents knew that I would drop everything and care for them as if they were my own.

Speaker 124 Yet, last fall, I pled guilty in federal court to felonies for the benefit of,

Speaker 124 at the direction of,

Speaker 145 and in coordination with Individual Number One.

Speaker 134 For the record, Individual Number One is President Donald J.

Speaker 124 Trump

Speaker 22 we're aware of that

Speaker 124 I was motivated by ambition at times

Speaker 124 it is even more painful to admit that many times I ignored my conscience and acted loyal to a man when I should not have

Speaker 124 sitting here today

Speaker 124 It seems unbelievable that I was so mesmerized by Donald Trump that I was willing to do things for him that I knew were absolutely wrong.

Speaker 147 He was mesmerized.

Speaker 20 He was hypnotized.

Speaker 105 I mean, listen to this.

Speaker 124 his executive vice president and special counsel, and then as personal attorney when he became president. When I first met Mr.

Speaker 124 Trump, he was a successful entrepreneur, a real estate giant, and an icon.

Speaker 124 Being around Mr.

Speaker 135 Trump was intoxicating.

Speaker 124 When you were in his presence, you felt like you were involved in something greater than yourself, that you were somehow changing the world.

Speaker 146 I wound up touting the Trump narrative for over a decade.

Speaker 124 That was my job.

Speaker 124 Always stay on message.

Speaker 137 Always defend.

Speaker 124 It monopolized my life.

Speaker 124 At first, I worked mostly on real estate developments and other business transactions.

Speaker 124 Shortly thereafter, Mr. Trump brought me into his personal life.

Speaker 61 The reason why we are monitoring this, by the way, is

Speaker 78 not because we believe him.

Speaker 22 I don't believe him.

Speaker 33 I didn't believe him when everybody on the Trump campaign

Speaker 71 told us to believe him.

Speaker 57 This guy is a very bad guy,

Speaker 7 but you should know the worst that they have.

Speaker 53 This is where they're starting

Speaker 9 with this guy.

Speaker 48 You know,

Speaker 11 you usually don't open up with a liar and

Speaker 8 a discredited figure.

Speaker 81 You start with something that you really have and you're excited to share.

Speaker 34 Everything that we know of, he has very little evidence except, well, I saw it firsthand.

Speaker 124 He is capable of being loyal, but he is fundamentally disloyal.

Speaker 124 Donald Trump is a man who ran for office to make his brand great, not to make our country great.

Speaker 124 He had no desire or intention to lead this nation, only to market himself and to build his wealth and power. Mr.

Speaker 124 Trump would often say, this campaign was going to be the greatest infomercial in political history.

Speaker 124 He never expected to win the primary. He never never expected to win the general election.
The campaign, for him, was always a marketing opportunity.

Speaker 124 I knew early on in my work for Mr. Trump that he would direct me to lie to further his business interests.

Speaker 38 You know, here's what's interesting to say, Stu.

Speaker 115 For a real estate mogul in the private sector.

Speaker 52 This is the problem with our society right now.

Speaker 46 Without any evidence, this guy is getting out and saying all of these things and for me these are the things I was I was saying about the Trump campaign he's just it's marketing he doesn't expect to win blah blah blah blah blah

Speaker 131 and I was saying those things so his testimony appeals to the worst part of me that says yes see see he's saying what you thought

Speaker 108 but that's the problem with our society we are either not watching or we're watching based on how it makes us feel.

Speaker 97 And this is how CNN is watching, right? That's exactly right. They're saying, oh, yeah, he said this racist thing in a car with Michael Cohen.
I believe it because that's what I believe.

Speaker 128 Because that's what I believe.

Speaker 66 You can't take this guy

Speaker 20 for any reason.

Speaker 80 You have no reason to believe this guy.

Speaker 97 Except he has evidence on some things. However, there are things that we already knew occurred, like the payments to Stormy Daniels.
He does have evidence of some of that stuff.

Speaker 97 But it does not seem to be that he has evidence of anything new. He has claims that I have not heard before, but those claims are not backed up by any evidence.

Speaker 22 Correct.

Speaker 78 So we want to see what evidence he does have.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 50 But all of the stuff that you're listening to, whether you are cheering for it or you are jeering, don't do either.

Speaker 115 Don't do either.

Speaker 38 Here's the race. Here's a racist.
Listen,

Speaker 124 court, white supremacists and bigots.

Speaker 88 He may be swearing here.

Speaker 97 You may want to pull this down. Pull this down, pull this down, pull this down.
Because there is a swear word in this testimony here. What's he saying?

Speaker 97 He's talking about the crap hole countries in which he says the full word in the testimony. I don't know if he's going to say it for sure here, but I don't want our stations to get it.

Speaker 143 He did say the full word.

Speaker 97 You're welcome, stations.

Speaker 76 You're welcome.

Speaker 124 And while we were once driving through a struggling neighborhood in Chicago, he commented that only black people could live that way.

Speaker 124 And he told me that black people would never vote for him because they were too stupid.

Speaker 124 And yet, I continue to work for him.

Speaker 124 You believe that? Mr. Trump.
I don't believe his cheat.

Speaker 105 I don't believe it either.

Speaker 97 I don't believe his

Speaker 22 money is available.

Speaker 124 I am giving to the committee to

Speaker 124 give three years of Mr. Trump's personal financial statements from 2011

Speaker 138 to 2012.

Speaker 23 He's only changed sides because

Speaker 94 he's a Donald Trump as far as he could run.

Speaker 83 He got into trouble.

Speaker 22 He's now trying to save his people and this will help him sell books.

Speaker 124 1B and 1C to my testimony.

Speaker 124 It was my experience that Mr. Trump inflated his total assets when it served his purposes, such as trying to be listed amongst the wealthiest people in Forbes and deflated his assets.

Speaker 137 to reduce his real estate taxes.

Speaker 145 I'm sharing with you two newspaper articles side by side. No.

Speaker 145 That are examples of Mr.

Speaker 149 Trump inflating and deflating his assets, as I said, to suit shining.

Speaker 48 So in other words, these are exhibits.

Speaker 46 He'll make himself look good to some people for some times, and then if it's in his,

Speaker 18 if it's a benefit of him,

Speaker 72 he'll say the opposite.

Speaker 38 Shut up.

Speaker 97 I mean, if it's taxes, though, is the benefit that he's not going to be able to do it.

Speaker 32 Yeah, if it's taxes,

Speaker 46 then show me the tax records.

Speaker 38 And that's what he's saying.

Speaker 105 He says he has been backing it up with two newspaper articles.

Speaker 97 He did say also that he has several years of financial statements that he gave to Deutsche Bank. So that is something that

Speaker 97 I'm sure that will be of interest to the Democrats here.

Speaker 100 Well, especially with Deutsche Bank.

Speaker 2 Deutsche Bank is a

Speaker 97 lot of shady stuff. Go ahead and get a lot of money.

Speaker 38 Separate a money laundering

Speaker 22 bank with the Russians.

Speaker 23 At least that's what they say.

Speaker 124 $60,000.

Speaker 124 Mr. Trump directed the Trump Foundation, which is supposed to be a charitable organization, to repay the fake bidder despite keeping the art for himself.
And please see exhibit 3B to my testimony.

Speaker 124 And it should come as no surprise that one of my more common responsibilities was that Mr.

Speaker 124 Trump directed me to call business owners, many of whom are small businesses, that were owed money for their services, and told them that no payment or a reduced payment would be coming.

Speaker 124 When I asked Mr. Trump or when I told Mr.
Trump of my success, he actually reveled in it.

Speaker 124 And yet, I continued to work for him.

Speaker 79 I bet you reveled in it as well.

Speaker 124 Mr. Trump is a con man.

Speaker 124 So are you. He asked me to pay off an adult film star with whom he had an affair and to lie about it to his wife,

Speaker 73 which I did.

Speaker 124 And And lying to the first lady is one of my biggest regrets because she is a kind, good person, and I respect her greatly.

Speaker 22 I don't believe any of this. I don't deserve that.

Speaker 72 Tommy Knuckles could be giving this same testimony, and I'd look.

Speaker 38 You're a mobster, man.

Speaker 35 You're a mobster.

Speaker 37 I don't believe a word of what you're saying.

Speaker 14 All of this stuff may or may not have happened.

Speaker 87 You can't take a word this guy says.

Speaker 39 I mean, you want to talk about the

Speaker 99 shadow of a doubt.

Speaker 3 I'm looking for the pinhole of light.

Speaker 97 Right, it's like victory or death. With Cohen, it's evidence or nothing.

Speaker 97 It's either he has evidence or you shouldn't even hear the words he's saying.

Speaker 134 That could negatively impact his campaign.

Speaker 145 And I did that too.

Speaker 124 Without bothering to consider whether that was improper, much less whether it was the right thing to do or how it impacted.

Speaker 13 Okay, so far,

Speaker 95 nothing new.

Speaker 17 We're going to continue to follow this.

Speaker 72 Jason's going to follow it in the break, and then we have Ben Sass on the other side, so stand by.

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Speaker 132 It is only Wednesday, and this week already, Democrats voted against protecting newborns who were born alive so the doctor or their parents could kill the child.

Speaker 7 Now, those same people who want us to be able to kill baby

Speaker 123 bring us a con man, convicted felon, and perjurer to try to tell us this person can be trusted.

Speaker 52 We have to hear the truth.

Speaker 26 Ben Sass is here.

Speaker 86 What is the state of the American soul, Ben?

Speaker 150 Oh, Glenn, that's too big for a Wednesday morning.

Speaker 150 Monday night in the Senate was a shameful disgrace. I mean, I remain optimistic about the pro-life movement in the long term for a whole bunch of reasons.

Speaker 150 But one of the basic ones is there's a lot more imaging technology in the world. And what we find is as people see more 3D images of what's happening in utero, they recognize that a baby's a baby.

Speaker 150 The pro-baby position and the pro-compassion position, the pro-science position actually are all the same one.

Speaker 150 So I'm optimistic, but America's soul on display, at least through its supposedly greatest deliberative body, Monday night, was tragic.

Speaker 16 So, Ben, what does this say to,

Speaker 33 I think, and I don't know where the cutoff is with God, but I believe in an American covenant that was started with George Washington and that he will withdraw his protection.

Speaker 17 And I think some of that has been withdrawn slowly.

Speaker 7 But when we can't say, hey, we're not going to kill newborns, and everybody knows that's infanticide.

Speaker 24 I think God withdraws from that.

Speaker 26 What does that say about the Democratic presidential

Speaker 70 candidates?

Speaker 50 I mean, what's going to happen to the Democratic Party when they embrace the worst possible position and say, yep, we're okay with that?

Speaker 150 Yeah, I mean, so let's distinguish between one really big point and then a smaller political point.

Speaker 150 But the first and bigger point, bigger than politics, is it shouldn't be right versus left to affirm human dignity.

Speaker 150 When we believe the American experiment is premised on the idea that everybody's an image-bearer, that God created people with dignity and with rights.

Speaker 150 Government is not the author or source of your rights. Government is just our shared project.
It's a tool to secure rights that we've already been given by God.

Speaker 150 And you have to affirm universal dignity to understand what America is about. That is not Republican versus Democrat.
It should be bigger than that.

Speaker 150 Now, the much narrower political point is there's so much broken tribalism in our country that we're not having a conversation that pretends the 320 million of us are in anything together.

Speaker 150 And so you had 44 Democrats out of 100 people in the U.S. Senate vote against a resolution Monday night that was really just condemning infanticide.

Speaker 150 I'm as pro-life as they come and unapologetically so. But our bill Monday night wasn't actually about abortion.
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It didn't have anything to do with abortion access.

Speaker 150 It's about babies that have already been born alive. And we had, I think, six Democrats, I was floor manager Monday afternoon en route to the vote.

Speaker 150 And I think we had six Democrats make speeches, and four of them were just filled with blatant lies, talking about health of the mother and the second time,

Speaker 150 and debates that are messier than what we're actually talking about here. Their stuff had nothing to do with the bill whatsoever.

Speaker 150 They were making up stuff that isn't anywhere in the text of the bill at all.

Speaker 150 And I think they think they can get away with lying like that simply because they know that America is tribal enough that people only listen inside their own silos, and they're not going to be called to account because they're talking to people who already agreed with them.

Speaker 150 That's how a republic dies. We're supposed to believe some stuff in common.

Speaker 106 Ben,

Speaker 106 I can't thank you enough for making this stand and pushing and standing tall on this and firm.

Speaker 17 We're behind you and we support you on this effort and many of the other efforts.

Speaker 85 You are a guy who possibly can bring us back together.

Speaker 85 And as strange as this may sound, abortion in the end may be one of those things that brings us back together because the left has gone so far they're in the territory of a Jason movie almost.

Speaker 17 Senator Ben Sass, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 19 really mocking him, talking about Twitter accounts and what's he saying exactly?

Speaker 120 How long did you work for Donald Trump?

Speaker 134 Approximately a decade.

Speaker 120 Ten years?

Speaker 137 That's correct.

Speaker 120 You said all these bad things about the president there in that last 30 minutes, and yet you worked for him for 10 years?

Speaker 120 All those bad things, I mean, it's that bad. I can see you working for him for 10 days, maybe 10 weeks.

Speaker 120 Maybe even 10 months, but you work for him for 10 years.

Speaker 120 Mr. Cohen,

Speaker 120 how long did you work in the White House?

Speaker 146 I never worked in the White House.

Speaker 120 That's the point, isn't it, Mr. Cohen? No, sir.

Speaker 136 Yes, it is.

Speaker 124 No, it's not, sir.

Speaker 120 You wanted to work in the White House. No, sir.
You didn't get brought to the dance.

Speaker 124 I was extremely proud to be personal attorney to the President of the United States of America. I did not want to go to the White House.

Speaker 137 I was offered jobs.

Speaker 124 I can tell you a story of Mr. Trump reaming out Rhines Priebus because I had not taken a job where Mr.
Trump wanted me to, which is working with Don McGahn at the White House General Counsel's office.

Speaker 134 One second.

Speaker 124 What I said at the time, and I brought a lawyer in who produced a memo as to why I should not go in because there would be no attorney-client privilege.

Speaker 124 And in order to handle some of the matters that I talked about in my opening, that would be best suited for me not to go in and listen

Speaker 57 Because I didn't take the job because of attorney

Speaker 38 client privilege

Speaker 76 on all the things I just told you about.

Speaker 120 Didn't get a job in the White House.

Speaker 120 And now you're behaving just like everyone else who's got fired or didn't get the job they wanted, like Andy McCabe, like James Comey.

Speaker 120 Same kind of selfish motivation after you don't get the thing you want. That's what I see here today, and I think that's what the American people.
Mr.

Speaker 124 Jordan, all I wanted was what I got, to be personal attorney to the president, to enjoy the senior year of my son in high school and waiting for my daughter who's graduating from college to come back to New York.

Speaker 134 I got exactly what I want.

Speaker 38 Actually, what I wanted.

Speaker 138 That's right.

Speaker 148 I received exactly what I wanted.

Speaker 120 Gentlemen, time has expired. Ms.
Washington Schultz.

Speaker 116 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
She's still around.

Speaker 111 Yeah. Mr.

Speaker 152 Cohen, thank you for being here today.

Speaker 83 Still with Putin.

Speaker 153 As you likely know, I served as the chair of the Democratic National Committee at the time of the Russian hacks and when Russia weaponized the messages that it had stolen. But I want to be clear.

Speaker 153 My questions are not about the harm done to any individual by Wikileaks and the Russian...

Speaker 144 It's about the possible

Speaker 138 harm to the United States and the USA. Nothing to do with me.

Speaker 134 And our democracy.

Speaker 97 I'm not going to accuse you of not doing something

Speaker 97 bad because you didn't get a gig you wanted. But of course, I also lost my gig because of this exact same thing.

Speaker 97 No motivation there.

Speaker 124 I cannot answer that in a yes or no. He had advanced notice that there was going to be a dump of emails, but at no time did I hear the specificity of what those emails were going to be.

Speaker 36 But you do testify today.

Speaker 133 Again, pointing out that that phone call from Roger Stone

Speaker 97 contradicts Stone's personal communications. He never had contact with the president and barely did get contact with Bannon.
Just wanted to point that out.

Speaker 153 Did Mr. Trump likely share this information with his daughter, Ivana?

Speaker 76 Stop for just a second.

Speaker 118 I think it's really important that you understand what Cohen is saying.

Speaker 33 And he is going against what the FBI said happened.

Speaker 17 The FBI said Cohen, he couldn't.

Speaker 52 He was frustrated.

Speaker 53 He couldn't get access to the president.

Speaker 7 So he never told them about the WikiLeaks thing.

Speaker 11 He could only get a hold of Bannon, and Bannon would say it.

Speaker 15 Now, Cohen is saying that he heard a phone call from Stone explaining, hey, Wikileaks is going to do this thing.

Speaker 57 So are we expected to believe the FBI or Cohen or Stone?

Speaker 97 I mean, is it possible? It's possible, right?

Speaker 97 He could have been communicating with the president through other means, right? A different phone number that the FBI didn't get a hold of.

Speaker 97 You know, I'm sure what the FBI looked at was his cell phone and his text. Possible, but that doesn't explain Stone's frustration.
Right, unless he's lying, which he always is.

Speaker 97 Again, I wouldn't say that I think that there's any evidence for Cohen here. This is Cohen's word, and I should always dismiss Cohen's word on it.

Speaker 11 I will tell you, between Stone, Cohen, and the FBI, I'm going with the FBI.

Speaker 22 Absolutely.

Speaker 41 So

Speaker 39 you have to believe one of the three or don't believe any of them.

Speaker 27 And if that's the case, then turn this thing, the whole thing off, because it doesn't matter.

Speaker 55 If this is the kind of

Speaker 71 evidence that you have.

Speaker 112 Now, the other thing is, he talks about this Trump Tower, which she's going at.

Speaker 46 He's always said, I didn't know anything about the meeting of Trump Tower, but there's a new thing where he says, oh, I did know about it, but I didn't know I knew about it until much later.

Speaker 53 Listen to this.

Speaker 97 He said the reason why he knew about the Trump Tower meeting is because he recalled that at one point he was sitting in the Oval Office and Don Jr.

Speaker 97 walked up behind the Oval Office desk, because he he said remembers that was odd and said the meeting is on and then Trump said good good let me know how it goes okay notice there was no mention of which meeting or the content of anything it was just the meeting is Russia the meeting is on my understanding is in 2017 Donald Trump only had one meeting yes that's right and this was it

Speaker 59 so I think so here he is now he's currently giving a testimony about conversations about Russia need to I understand but you have a tremendous amount of experience given

Speaker 146 today.

Speaker 134 He is all about winning.

Speaker 137 He will do what is necessary to do it.

Speaker 153 In your opinion and experience,

Speaker 153 would he have the potential to cooperate or collude with a foreign power to win the presidency at all costs?

Speaker 147 Yes.

Speaker 153 Based on what you know,

Speaker 111 would Mr. Trump

Speaker 153 including and coordinating with the Russians at any point during the campaign?

Speaker 124 So, as I stated in my testimony,

Speaker 124 I wouldn't use the word colluding.

Speaker 124 Was there

Speaker 154 something

Speaker 146 odd about the back-and-forth praise with President Putin?

Speaker 65 Yes.

Speaker 124 But I'm not really sure that I can answer that question.

Speaker 38 What the hell is that?

Speaker 38 I thought it was odd, too, but that's not

Speaker 38 called me up to testify.

Speaker 64 What the hell does that mean?

Speaker 38 mean?

Speaker 38 We all thought that was odd.

Speaker 134 There's just so many dots that all seem to lead to the same direction.

Speaker 134 Before my time expires, Mr.

Speaker 153 Cohen,

Speaker 153 the campaign and the entire Trump organization appeared to be filthy with Russian contact.

Speaker 153 There are Russian business contacts, there are campaign

Speaker 153 Russian contacts, there are

Speaker 153 lies about all of those contacts. And then we have Roger Stone informing the President just before the Democratic National Convention that

Speaker 153 WikiLeaks was going to drop documents in the public arena that we knew at that point were hacked and stolen by Russia from the Democratic National Committee.

Speaker 120 The gentlelady's time has expired. You may answer her inquiry.

Speaker 153 My question is,

Speaker 153 given all those connections, is it likely that Donald Trump was fully aware of

Speaker 3 a political show trial?

Speaker 32 This is a Russian

Speaker 94 show trial.

Speaker 53 This is the kind of trial you get in Russia.

Speaker 38 Let me say that this is a misconception.

Speaker 124 There is no evidence at all by the House Select and the Senate Select Intelligence Committees. And so I would rather not answer that specific question other than just to tell you that Mr.

Speaker 124 Trump's desire to win

Speaker 134 would have him work with anyone.

Speaker 124 And one other thing that I had said in my statement is that when it came to the Trump Tower Moscow

Speaker 146 project,

Speaker 124 it was worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and we never expected to win the election. So this was just business as usual.

Speaker 100 All right.

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Speaker 28 All right, from Tennessee, we go now to Congressman Greene.

Speaker 11 He's a Republican.

Speaker 155 A couple of topics say that I can ask Mr. Cohen about the President's compliance with financial disclosures and campaign finance laws.
But didn't Mr.

Speaker 155 Cohen, on two occasions, break campaign finance law with his own donation? So again, the majority party star witness on the president's compliance is a guy who broke compliance laws himself.

Speaker 155 Mr. Chairman, you graciously allow us to ask questions of Mr.
Cohen on the President's dealings with the IRS and tax law.

Speaker 155 Your star witness here broke the law with regards to the IRS at least five times. He pled guilty on cheating on his taxes, lying to the IRS.
He's the best witness you got.

Speaker 155 Next up, with the permission of the Chairman, I get to ask Mr. Cohen about his perspective on the President's business dealings.
Let me get this straight.

Speaker 155 The witness lied to multiple financial institutions institutions to get loans to pay off other loans just to keep himself afloat, and he's going to be the expert on business practices. Obviously, Mr.

Speaker 155 Chairman, the witness may produce documents that he suggests incriminates the president, yet he lies to banks. All of those lies were done on fraudulent documents.

Speaker 155 Documents that he

Speaker 5 forged.

Speaker 155 Nothing he says or produces has any credibility. Apparently, he even lied lied about delivering his own child, which his wife had to correct the record of.

Speaker 155 Ladies and gentlemen, how on earth is this witness credible?

Speaker 128 He's not.

Speaker 155 With all the lies and deception, the self-serving fraud, it begs the question.

Speaker 38 I have to tell you.

Speaker 155 What is the majority party doing here?

Speaker 59 If I were Michael Cohen,

Speaker 103 me, I'm not saying him, me.

Speaker 86 My reputation, my word means so much to me.

Speaker 54 I think I would leave that room because he knows all of that stuff is true that he just said

Speaker 59 I would have a hard time not putting a gun in my mouth.

Speaker 68 I would realize the gravity of what I have done.

Speaker 42 I have destroyed the only thing that is truly mine, and that is my name, my reputation.

Speaker 130 There's not a person in the world that should believe me.

Speaker 97 You'd have to believe that you were in very dark moments, for sure.

Speaker 35 Really dark moments.

Speaker 43 I wouldn't make

Speaker 11 personally me, I would not make it through that.

Speaker 97 If this moral transformation is real, and he said this, Cohen has said that he's been in very dark places.

Speaker 97 Whether that's true or not from him, I just don't think you can trust him.

Speaker 59 No, I can't either.

Speaker 17 I can't either. And I don't see

Speaker 27 and everybody treats it differently.

Speaker 57 So I don't want to judge the man's personality.

Speaker 22 Perfect.

Speaker 13 But I don't see remorse from him.

Speaker 11 Physically, again, everybody reacts differently.

Speaker 86 So I don't want to judge the man's heart, but.

Speaker 97 Who's paid my expense to be here today? I paid my expenses.

Speaker 120 Mr.

Speaker 82 Chairman, I'd like to yield the remaining of my time to

Speaker 120 the ranking member.

Speaker 120 Mr. Cohen, how many times did you talk to the special counsel's office?

Speaker 100 Seven.

Speaker 120 Did they talk to you at all in preparation for today's hearing between the seven times you talked to him prior to your sentencing?

Speaker 120 Have you had any conversations with the special counsel's office between sentencing and today?

Speaker 124 I don't understand your question.

Speaker 120 You talked to him seven times. That's in the sentencing

Speaker 120 memorandums that were in front of the court back in December. What I'm asking is how many times have you talked to the special counsel's office since then

Speaker 120 up to today's appearance here in Congress?

Speaker 134 Gentlemen, my time has expired.

Speaker 120 You may answer the question now.

Speaker 134 That one question.

Speaker 22 I'm sorry, I don't have the answer to that. Ms.
Maloney.

Speaker 94 I don't have the answer to that?

Speaker 156 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Speaker 134 And Mr.

Speaker 156 Cohen, in your 10 years of working for Donald Trump, did he control everything that went on in the Trump organization?

Speaker 156 And did you have to get his permission in advance and report back after every meeting of any importance?

Speaker 73 Yes.

Speaker 124 There was nothing that happened at the Trump organization, from whether it was a response as the Daily Beast story that you referred to, Ranking Member, that did not go through Mr.

Speaker 124 Trump with his approval and sign off as in the case of the payments

Speaker 156 how many how many times did the president michael uh ask you or direct you to try to reach settlements with women in 2015 and 2016

Speaker 124 i'm sorry ma'am i don't i don't have the answer to that i'd have to go back and try to recollect it's certainly the two that we know about

Speaker 141 and uh is it more than two or

Speaker 156 I think the President did not provide the accurate information in his 2017 financial disclosure form. What was he trying to hide? He corrected other forms, but he didn't correct this one.

Speaker 124 The payments on the reimbursement of the funds that I extended on his behalf.

Speaker 156 Can you elaborate more?

Speaker 124 Well, going back into the story, as I stated, when Alan Weiselberg and I left the office and we went to his office in order to make the determination on how the money was going to be wired to the IOLA, the interest on a lawyer's account, for Keith Davidson in California, I had asked Alan to use his money.

Speaker 124 He didn't want to use mine, and he said he couldn't. And we then decided how else we can do it.

Speaker 124 And he asked me whether or not I know anybody who wants to have a party at one of his clubs that could pay me instead, or somebody who may have wanted to become a member of one of the golf clubs.

Speaker 124 And I also don't have anybody that was interested in that. And it got to the point where it was down to the wire.
It was either

Speaker 124 somebody wired the funds and purchased the life rights to the story from Miss Clifford.

Speaker 38 So look at that.

Speaker 138 Let me listen to this end up being sold to

Speaker 65 television and this guy,

Speaker 75 how much he had to go through to get

Speaker 105 $150,000?

Speaker 57 How many hoops he had to look, but he

Speaker 83 can't recall

Speaker 56 in two years

Speaker 86 how many times he had to jump through those hoops.

Speaker 97 He certainly wanted to make you think it's more than two. Correct.

Speaker 94 Correct.

Speaker 39 The answer is probably zero. It may be 10.

Speaker 38 I don't want to say it's two.

Speaker 5 It's definitely two, and you don't answer that the way he did.

Speaker 7 You just don't.

Speaker 18 You could say, madam, I don't know.

Speaker 13 It's more than two, but I don't know.

Speaker 99 Instead, he said, it's definitely two.

Speaker 79 Well, that doesn't help anything.

Speaker 2 That just

Speaker 7 is creating the illusion, illusion that it could be 17.

Speaker 97 Right, but it's no evidence that it's 17.

Speaker 124 Dylan Howard and others, where they would contact me or Mr. Trump or someone and state that there's a story that's percolating out there that you may be interested in.

Speaker 124 And then what you do do is you contact that individual and you purchase the rights to that story from them.

Speaker 133 All right.

Speaker 97 We're going to take a quick break here coming up in a second.

Speaker 33 By the way, that question came from Miss Maloney, which rhymes with baloney.

Speaker 77 I don't know if you.

Speaker 111 Wow.

Speaker 97 See,

Speaker 97 you're not going to get that on CNN. No, you're not going to get that.

Speaker 94 They didn't even cover that. No.

Speaker 138 MSNBC ignoring it.

Speaker 97 They won't even have the balls to say that. They don't have the balls to say that.

Speaker 73 Here's Baloney Maloney.

Speaker 22 Oh, my God.

Speaker 133 Great question.

Speaker 22 Wow.

Speaker 97 You pushed the button of Washington today.

Speaker 147 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 105 I mean, why not join in the circus?

Speaker 1 You're listening to Glenn Beck.

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Speaker 61 I'm going to CPAC, be in our DC studios on Friday during the show.

Speaker 17 I have heard rumors that there is a brand new X-Chair waiting for me.

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Speaker 57 I have to give the Friday CPAC CPAC speech an hour beforehand.

Speaker 34 They may be sending something up at Radio Row at CPAC, but we're supposed to go back to the DC studios, but I guess the vice president is going to be arriving around the same time.

Speaker 97 There could be some traffic.

Speaker 100 No, they're saying that not only traffic, but I was there last time.

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Speaker 97 Hi.

Speaker 38 The worst.

Speaker 90 I'm so disappointed in you, Stu. Are you? These are important questions.

Speaker 40 So really important questions.

Speaker 6 And you just, you fail to see the importance.

Speaker 130 You have

Speaker 86 Ms. Norton.

Speaker 157 Yeah. Hi.
I just want to say

Speaker 157 the Access Hollywood tape. Yes.

Speaker 3 It's an important thing.

Speaker 20 This is a congressional hearing.

Speaker 158 had a lot of hits uh on the website yeah and it uh shut down the the newspaper servers it did to set a record for a lot of hits in a lot of short access hollywood and that was the tape that was out for the people to uh hear and see and what did you and what's your question people went on the internet which is a series of tubes that creates information and collects it like a bank tube and it goes from one side of one side of your computer to the other and then over to your neighbor's computer and then continues to go down your street until it leaves your street and goes into the center of town.

Speaker 142 At that time, it is then able to be passed along to other areas of the country through the tubes carried by small hamsters who walk the information to the computer that you're designing.

Speaker 26 Mr.

Speaker 67 Chairman, I would just ask that the gentlewoman

Speaker 27 is please instructed to shut up.

Speaker 32 She's hurting our case.

Speaker 97 I mean, you have this big moment in front of national TV, this, you know, Michael Cohen.

Speaker 97 You have a very short amount of time, and she's legitimately praising the web stats of the Access Hollywood video.

Speaker 94 Well, because

Speaker 25 Cohen needed to say, Hope Hicks asked me to call the networks and spin the Access Hollywood tape.

Speaker 22 Now he's working, he's working for the president and is the president.

Speaker 91 Of course, he's spinning. Who was surprised by this?

Speaker 38 Go ahead.

Speaker 38 Bring this in. The Access Hollywood study in terms of impact on the election.

Speaker 154 I was concerned about it, but more importantly, Mr. Trump was concerned about.

Speaker 134 That's my next question. What was the president's concern about these matters becoming public in October?

Speaker 4 What do you think?

Speaker 111 This is so ridiculous.

Speaker 147 What was the concern?

Speaker 124 I don't think anybody would dispute this

Speaker 137 belief that after the wild fire that encompassed the Billy Bush tape, that a second follow-up to it would have been pleasant.

Speaker 145 And he was concerned with the effect that it had had

Speaker 124 on the campaign, on how women were seeing him, and ultimately whether or not he would have a shot in the general election.

Speaker 160 And so you negotiated the $130,000

Speaker 160 payment.

Speaker 124 That had nothing to do with it. The $130,000 number was not a number that was actually negotiated.
It was told to me by Keith Davidson that this is a number that Ms. Clifford wanted.
Well,

Speaker 160 you finally completed that deal, as it were, on October the 25th.

Speaker 134 25th.

Speaker 160 Days before the election.

Speaker 111 What happened in the interim?

Speaker 124 Contemplated whether or not to do it.

Speaker 114 Wasn't sure if she was really going to go public.

Speaker 124 It was, again, some communications back and forth between myself and Keith Davidson.

Speaker 124 And ultimately, it came to either do it or don't.

Speaker 124 At which time, again, I had gone into Mr. Speaker.

Speaker 159 I'd like to talk if I could connect you back to the Access Hollywood tape that was on the Internet.

Speaker 90 This was a diesel bus, was it not?

Speaker 158 It was run on diesel fuel, and when it was fueled up, it would have to go to a diesel pump, which is different from the unleaded pumps.

Speaker 142 Now, there's three varieties, of course, of unleaded.

Speaker 38 You have the

Speaker 22 committee member to

Speaker 65 tell us why that's important.

Speaker 142 Now, if you have a membership card to the gas station, you can give her points, and those points will then refer to lower gas prices in the future.

Speaker 142 But filling a diesel tank with regular unleaded would be a...

Speaker 100 Yeah, hang on, here's Mr. Meadows.
Here's Mr. Meadows.

Speaker 161 To actually shed some light, how long have you known this patton?

Speaker 124 I'm responsible for Lynn Patton joining the Trump organization and the job that she currently holds.

Speaker 134 Well,

Speaker 161 I'm glad you acknowledge that because you made some very

Speaker 161 demeaning comments about the president that Ms. Patton doesn't agree with.

Speaker 114 In fact, it has to do with your claim of racism.

Speaker 152 She says that as a daughter of a man born in Birmingham, Alabama, that there is no way that she would work

Speaker 114 for an individual who was racist.

Speaker 161 How do do you reconcile the two of those, Mr. President?

Speaker 124 As neither should I, as the son of a Holocaust survivor.

Speaker 93 Wait, Mr.

Speaker 134 Cohen.

Speaker 152 Wait.

Speaker 161 I guess what I'm saying is I've talked to the president over 300 times.

Speaker 151 I've not heard one time a racist comment out of his mouth in private.

Speaker 152 So how do you reconcile that?

Speaker 161 Do you have proof of those conversations?

Speaker 146 I would ask you to.

Speaker 136 Do you have tape recordings of those conversations? No, sir.

Speaker 148 Well, you've taped everybody else. Why wouldn't you have taxes?

Speaker 124 That's also true, sir. That's not true.

Speaker 152 You haven't taped anybody?

Speaker 134 I have taped.

Speaker 151 How many times have you taped individuals?

Speaker 124 Maybe 100 times over 10 years.

Speaker 134 Is that a low estimate?

Speaker 136 Because I've heard it's over 200 times.

Speaker 124 No, I don't think. I think it's approximately about 100 from what I recall.

Speaker 148 But I would ask

Speaker 148 me a question, sir.

Speaker 138 Do you have proof?

Speaker 38 Do you have proof?

Speaker 145 Yes or no? I do.

Speaker 134 Oh, where's the proof?

Speaker 138 Ask Ms.

Speaker 124 Patton how many

Speaker 134 people who are black

Speaker 124 are executives at the Trump organization.

Speaker 147 That's not.

Speaker 111 Oh, my God.

Speaker 38 I would ask you to.

Speaker 97 As I said, he's not a good lawyer.

Speaker 105 No one ever accused him of being a good lawyer.

Speaker 37 Horrible.

Speaker 97 I mean, he just is just assisting.

Speaker 138 All right, let me go on a little bit further.

Speaker 151 Did you collect $1.2 million or so from Novartis?

Speaker 138 I did.

Speaker 134 For access to

Speaker 136 the Trump administration?

Speaker 134 No, sir.

Speaker 136 Why did you collect it?

Speaker 124 Because they came to me based upon my knowledge of the enigma, Donald Trump, what he thinks.

Speaker 124 Sir, please let me finish.

Speaker 151 No, did they pay you $1.2 million

Speaker 136 to give them advice?

Speaker 145 Yes, they did.

Speaker 145 A multi-billion dollar conglomerate came to me looking for information, not something that's unusual here in D.C.,

Speaker 145 looking for information, and they believed that I had a value.

Speaker 138 So how many times did you meet with them?

Speaker 137 Was the insight that I was capable of offering them

Speaker 134 willing to pay?

Speaker 151 How many times did you meet with them

Speaker 134 for $1.2 million how many times did you meet with them I provided them with both in-person as well as telephone access whenever they needed how many times yes that's a question mr.

Speaker 124 I don't recall sir so did you ever talk to them I spoke to them on several occasions yesterday how many

Speaker 151 six times six times

Speaker 161 wow $200,000 a call sir I also would like to

Speaker 134 bring you this is my five minutes control and not yours.

Speaker 161 Did you get money from the Bank of Kazakhstan?

Speaker 124 It's not a Bank of Kazakhstan.

Speaker 145 It's called BTA.

Speaker 151 BTA Bank, Kazakhstan BTA Bank. Did you get money from them?

Speaker 134 I did. For what purpose?

Speaker 124 The purpose was because the former CEO of that bank

Speaker 124 had absconded with over, it was between $4 to $6 billion.

Speaker 124 And some of that money was here in the United States, and they sought my assistance in terms of finding, locating that money, and helping them to recollect.

Speaker 136 So are you saying that all the reports that you were paid, in some estimates, over $4 million to have access and understanding of the Trump administration,

Speaker 145 you're saying that all of that was just paid to you just because you're a nice guy?

Speaker 124 I am a nice guy, but more importantly, you're not going to be able to do that.

Speaker 134 But I would beg to differ.

Speaker 38 Then the record reflects that you're not a nice guy.

Speaker 124 Sorry, each and every contract contained the clause in my contracts that said, I will not lobby and I do not do government relations work.

Speaker 124 In fact, in fact, Novartis sent me their contract, which stated specifically that they wanted me to lobby, that they wanted me to provide access to government, including the president.

Speaker 124 That information, that secretary,

Speaker 38 we know how it works.

Speaker 130 We live through the Clintons.

Speaker 136 So, Novartis representatives say that it was like they were hiring a non-registered lobbyist, so you disagree with that?

Speaker 145 I don't know what they said, sir, but that the contracts have been.

Speaker 136 Have you ever contacted anybody in the administration

Speaker 114 to advocate on behalf of any aspect of any of your contracts?

Speaker 38 I ask unanimous consent, Mr.

Speaker 136 Chairman.

Speaker 152 I ask unanimous consent.

Speaker 120 The gentleman's time has expired. You may answer the question.

Speaker 124 I don't know what you're referring to, sir.

Speaker 134 Mr. Chairman,

Speaker 38 Mr. Chairman.
Thank you, Mr.

Speaker 162 Chairman.

Speaker 73 Oh, my God.

Speaker 59 You notice every time he runs out of time,

Speaker 27 and you have to answer the question?

Speaker 110 He's like, I didn't understand. I don't know what

Speaker 22 you said.

Speaker 162 That are tired of being lied to.

Speaker 162 They have been lied to by President Trump. They've been lied to by the President's children.
They have been lied to by the president's legal representatives. That's you.

Speaker 162 And it pains me to say that they have been even lied to

Speaker 162 by his congressional enablers who are still devoted to perpetuating and protecting.

Speaker 97 We talk about this every day, and there's a lot of people that I've just never even seen before that are in the series.

Speaker 97 I've never seen this guy before in my life.

Speaker 32 No, I don't.

Speaker 22 Mr. Clay.

Speaker 34 Any idea where Mr. Clay is from?

Speaker 38 Missouri, it says, yeah, Missouri.

Speaker 91 So let's just talk about this for a second.

Speaker 14 If I may,

Speaker 11 this has done absolutely nothing but divide the nation into camps deeper.

Speaker 99 If you believe Donald Trump,

Speaker 56 you're deeper into his corner.

Speaker 94 Sure. If you don't believe Donald Trump, you're deeper with the Democrats.

Speaker 4 However,

Speaker 13 if you are neither,

Speaker 53 if you're just like, I just want the truth,

Speaker 3 this is a

Speaker 7 ridiculous soap opera.

Speaker 35 Yes. This is soap opera that no one would believe.

Speaker 6 If you wrote it, you wouldn't believe it.

Speaker 7 You'd be like, they're not going to do that.

Speaker 64 They're not going to ask that question.

Speaker 97 Are you the type that doesn't want to get to the truth about the web stats of

Speaker 97 the bus table?

Speaker 9 Imagine that into soap opera.

Speaker 16 And I want to bring up the

Speaker 163 Hollywood Access Hollywood web stats.

Speaker 90 Billy Bush's career started in 1991 with an appearance on.

Speaker 63 No one would believe it. No one would believe it.

Speaker 9 I think the 70% of this nation needs to just grab the 30% of the nation by the shoulders and say, stop it.

Speaker 3 What's wrong with you?

Speaker 99 All right, let me tell you about Goldline.

Speaker 86 Intelligence officials, their annual threat assessment recently issued a warning on increased threats to national security resulting from tighter cooperation between China and Russia.

Speaker 8 Let me just ask Jason here real quick.

Speaker 86 Jason, tell me what's going on between India and Pakistan today.

Speaker 14 This is nuts.

Speaker 52 Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 97 There was a terrorist attack in Indian-controlled Kashmir, and then India responded back with bombing camps within Pakistan. Pakistan.
So now they're at each other's throats.

Speaker 97 The nuclear council in Pakistan has met. They've downed a few Indian planes.
It's escalating.

Speaker 93 Perfect.

Speaker 9 Perfect.

Speaker 5 I don't know about you, but I think the world is...

Speaker 53 I think it's returning to sanity.

Speaker 40 I don't think it's going more crazy every day.

Speaker 67 Did you hear about the Hollywood Access Web stats?

Speaker 20 I mean,

Speaker 16 everything makes sense.

Speaker 20 Gold and silver.

Speaker 45 is specifically owned by people and central banks who are gobbling it up.

Speaker 123 It's owned because people know when things go insane, currencies default, countries collapse, and you better have something of value.

Speaker 27 Learned from Venezuela.

Speaker 39 What do you have of value?

Speaker 63 Gold or silver is where the world usually returns.

Speaker 10 May I suggest, strongly suggest, that you call gold line now, 1866 gold line, 1866 gold line.

Speaker 99 No matter what is happening, think of this.

Speaker 45 Think of this circus that is going on right now

Speaker 98 when we have the president in Vietnam meeting over nukes with North Korea.

Speaker 56 When the world is completely changing, Pakistan and India under fire.

Speaker 51 What is the nation focused on?

Speaker 39 What are our representatives focused on?

Speaker 93 A circus.

Speaker 63 Please call Goldline now.

Speaker 10 1-866 1-866-Gold Line or Goldline.com.

Speaker 1 This is the Glen Beck Program.

Speaker 30 So, right now, they're going after Cohen, the Republicans are.

Speaker 11 And they're driving towards something, and they've brought this up several times.

Speaker 16 I'm assuming that they have something.

Speaker 123 But Cohen is being asked to deny that anyone is paying for Lanny Davis or his attorney.

Speaker 55 He said

Speaker 26 Lanny Davis is just doing this for free.

Speaker 24 I said, that's odd.

Speaker 60 That Tom Steyer did not fund any of this.

Speaker 122 And then they were asking him a minute ago: Did you prepare and coordinate it all with anyone in the Democratic Party or

Speaker 61 on this committee?

Speaker 60 And he hemmed and hawed and said he didn't know what you meant.

Speaker 72 It took him three times to ask the question.

Speaker 64 He finally said, Yes, well, I did talk to the committee chairperson and a couple of others with the committee, but that was just to coordinate

Speaker 89 things.

Speaker 32 Well, you mean the

Speaker 29 things. Right.

Speaker 27 So let's join this again.

Speaker 164 Okay.

Speaker 143 So

Speaker 164 did you want to testify before Congress or did he urge you to testify here?

Speaker 38 They're talking about Landing.

Speaker 124 I was asked to come here, and I am here, sir, voluntarily, because it's my...

Speaker 124 You were asked by who?

Speaker 164 My question, did he ask you to come here?

Speaker 124 No, sir.

Speaker 152 Okay,

Speaker 152 because

Speaker 164 he says that he did ask you to come here and that he convinced you, and also that he did the same with

Speaker 164 Chairman Cummings as well. So, your testimony here is that you approached Lanny Davis to represent you and to come here.
He did not persuade you to come here.

Speaker 145 He did not persuade me.

Speaker 124 Actually, Chairman Cummings, which is part of the conversations that we engaged in with his people, as well as Chairman Schiff and others.

Speaker 80 Notice that he used he

Speaker 32 did not persuade. He didn't

Speaker 34 hedging on he approached me or I approached him.

Speaker 97 This Cohen thing seems appealing to Cohen to do when he can write down his words in 20 pages and outline his case.

Speaker 97 When he's got to be asked all these questions about some things that are even unrelated, it's putting him into uncomfortable.

Speaker 103 He is going to end up going to prison for a lot longer because of this.

Speaker 59 I bet you that in a very short period of time, we find out that he has made more statements of perjury

Speaker 75 in his testimony today, and he goes to jail for even longer periods of time.

Speaker 2 He's,

Speaker 70 I mean,

Speaker 13 he's not very smart.

Speaker 52 He's really not very smart.

Speaker 86 He's not a good attorney. He's not smart.

Speaker 26 And, you know, he may be in recovery, but he's still a dirtbag.

Speaker 1 You're listening to Glenn Beck.