Best of the Program | Guest: Senator Ben Sasse | 2/27/19

Speaker 1 Hey, welcome to today's podcast.

Speaker 2 Kind of a different one today because we were taking the hearing as it was happening during most of the show today.

Speaker 10 And that hearing is Cohen.

Speaker 12 And Cohen is such a dirtbag.

Speaker 13 And it becomes very, very obvious.

Speaker 5 We went over everything that he said he had, that he would have.

Speaker 2 We listened to his testimony, listened to the ridiculous questions that were being posed to him.

Speaker 17 And

Speaker 5 I don't think it's going to change anybody's mind.

Speaker 18 We didn't have a chance. We'd go through all the evidence that Cohen presents.
We go through a bunch of the audio. And we also talk about

Speaker 18 a story in Connecticut where two transgender former male, current female, if you understand the narrative, they're racing against other high school students that are girls and beating them very consistently, shockingly.

Speaker 18 The girl's getting a little annoyed about that.

Speaker 20 And when you can understand the

Speaker 21 Cohen hearing, when that makes more sense than the story that you just heard,

Speaker 25 that's that's I as I asked Ben Sass, what is the state of the American soul today?

Speaker 21 You'll hear that, his response, and much more on today's podcast.

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Speaker 6 I have asked the committee to ensure that my family be protected from presidential threats and the committee be sensitive to the questions pertaining to ongoing investigations.

Speaker 30 I'm here under oath to correct the record, to answer the committee's questions truthfully and offer the American people what I know about President Trump.

Speaker 25 I recognize that some of you may have doubt an attack on my credibility.

Speaker 12 Yeah,

Speaker 41 every American, both Republican, Democrat, in the press, out of the press, everyone should have deep questions about this man's credibility.

Speaker 24 This guy has been a weasel, I think, probably since birth.

Speaker 15 He is a bad, bad guy.

Speaker 45 If you remember, one of our problems, in fact, one of our biggest problems with Donald Trump, and the reason why we said you can't trust him, is because he used to always say, I've got the best people around me, and they were the worst people.

Speaker 17 In particular, Cohen was one of them at the top of our list.

Speaker 20 Bannon was at the top of our list.

Speaker 19 Roger Stone.

Speaker 38 Roger Stone was at the top of the list.

Speaker 14 You had Manafort.

Speaker 50 And we told you all of the things that were going to happen.

Speaker 25 Because of these people.

Speaker 20 Now that these people are gone, it's a lot better.

Speaker 24 But it's these people that have gotten him into so much hot water and so much trouble.

Speaker 30 They were not trustworthy then. They're not trustworthy now.

Speaker 51 So what does the testimony of Michael Cohen even mean?

Speaker 32 Nothing.

Speaker 51 Nothing.

Speaker 19 Unless he has evidence, which they say he's going to be

Speaker 34 presenting evidence.

Speaker 53 You know, we'll wait and see.

Speaker 33 I've heard a lot of things too, and monkeys will fly out of your butt when they actually, when the media starts to get things right on this case.

Speaker 5 So what is he going to be talking about today?

Speaker 18 Yeah, and I'm glad you set it up that way because it's important to

Speaker 18 you see that a lot of people who were big Trump defenders in the media were saying Michael Cohen was a great guy and now they're saying he's a terrible guy.

Speaker 18 And the media was all saying Michael Cohen was a terrible guy and now they're saying he's a great guy. Now they're all over him as the most credible person in the entire universe.

Speaker 18 He has never been credible.

Speaker 18 If what he goes to prison for is one one-thousandth of the crimes he's committed in his life, I would be stunned. Me too.

Speaker 18 So, I mean, you cannot take anything that he says

Speaker 18 seriously unless he has significant evidence to back it up. But maybe we should go through this.
I mean, look, Aeroscope's going to be talking about it, and you should know what's in it.

Speaker 35 We have Jason Buttrill in with us, and Jason is going to be monitoring in hour number two.

Speaker 33 He's going to be monitoring the testimony.

Speaker 25 So he's listening

Speaker 7 so we don't have to.

Speaker 38 And we're having,

Speaker 22 you have this show, so you don't have to do it.

Speaker 34 So we are passing the buck and we're giving it to Jason, our head researcher, to just to follow and we'll break in if there's anything big.

Speaker 18 I'm thrilled personally because you usually have to read like a 500-page report.

Speaker 29 I just have to listen to it.

Speaker 57 This is easy.

Speaker 29 This is easy.

Speaker 18 So what we have here is a 20-page document. It is from Michael Cohen.
It is reportedly,

Speaker 18 by all accounts, his prepared opening statement today in the testimony.

Speaker 13 He says he's ashamed.

Speaker 53 He's ashamed of his failings.

Speaker 25 He's ashamed of his weakness. He's ashamed of his misplaced loyalty.
He's ashamed of the things I did for Mr.

Speaker 33 Trump.

Speaker 5 I'm ashamed that I chose to take part in concealing Mr.

Speaker 33 Trump's illicit acts.

Speaker 34 I'm ashamed that because I know what Mr. Trump is,

Speaker 3 I'm quoting, he's a racist, he's a con man, he's a cheat.

Speaker 18 And that's kind of the setup of it. I guess

Speaker 18 why don't don't we go through each claim? Sure. And maybe you can tell me, Glenn, do you think this is going to be effective of the American people?

Speaker 29 How do they react to it? Yes. Yep.

Speaker 50 All right.

Speaker 19 I'll go to, let's start here.

Speaker 18 He first starts off with the BuzzFeed report, which was about how Michael Cohen was told specifically from Donald Trump to lie to Congress.

Speaker 18 Cohen refutes that at some level. He says, Mr.
Trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress. That's not how he operates.

Speaker 18 In conversations we had during the campaign, the same time I was actively negotiating in Russia for him, he would look me in the eye and tell me there's no business in Russia and then go out and lie to the American people by saying the same thing.

Speaker 18 In his way, he was telling me to lie.

Speaker 3 Well, I believe that to be true, but I don't think the American people are going to care.

Speaker 18 And

Speaker 18 this has already come out, right? Like, we know that Justin said there was no business in Russia, and he did have the signed letter of intent. That's all come out.

Speaker 40 Is there anybody, I mean, when people said, I'm not electing a pope, I'm electing a president.

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 40 what you were really saying was, look, I know this guy is dirty, but I don't care.

Speaker 18 The New York real estate business is no.

Speaker 29 Right.

Speaker 38 It's shady. It's dirty.

Speaker 24 So I don't think, I think, to me, it matters, okay?

Speaker 34 But it mattered during the election.

Speaker 22 Americans made their choice, and they chose

Speaker 41 to go with a guy who they knew was shady.

Speaker 18 It's been priced in, right?

Speaker 17 So I don't think this is going to matter. Okay.

Speaker 18 There were at least a half dozen times between the Iowa caucus in January 2016 and the end of June where he would ask me, how is it going in Russia?

Speaker 18 Again, insinuating that he was all over this the entire time and then lied about it. But again, that's kind of

Speaker 18 what we know about that.

Speaker 18 Another one that's interesting is he says, you need to know Mr.

Speaker 18 Trump's personal lawyers reviewed and edited my statement to Congress about the timing of the Moscow negotiations before I gave it, saying it was not his own lie, but the lawyers actually,

Speaker 56 I guess, were part of this.

Speaker 18 He's essentially accusing the lawyers of intentionally

Speaker 18 lying to Congress as well. They're approving his statements.

Speaker 18 He says, again, to be clear, Mr. Trump knew of and directed the Trump-Moscow negotiations throughout the campaign and lied about it.
He lied about it because he never expected to win the election.

Speaker 18 He also lied about it because he stood to make hundreds of millions of dollars on the Moscow real estate project. Anything new there that you think would be impactful? Nope.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I don't think so either.

Speaker 49 Nope.

Speaker 49 Okay.

Speaker 17 You're the one who raised your hand.

Speaker 35 The other attorneys did not.

Speaker 38 You raised your hand.

Speaker 18 Okay. He says

Speaker 18 Trump never expected to win the primary, never expected to win the election. The campaign for him was always a marketing opportunity.

Speaker 19 I agree with that.

Speaker 18 He also says that Trump would often say the campaign was going to be the greatest infomercial in political history. I agree with that.

Speaker 18 But again, not an impactful, I don't think, on the administration in any way. He says, I knew early on that Trump would direct me to lie to further his business interests.

Speaker 18 I'm ashamed to say that when it was for a real estate mogul in the private sector, I considered it trivial. As the president, I consider it significant and dangerous.

Speaker 19 I don't believe that.

Speaker 18 This is the type of thing where you can't believe Cohen at all.

Speaker 38 I don't believe him.

Speaker 18 Lying is his first language.

Speaker 18 His first. And he has no credibility.
You can't, when he has these little moral moments throughout this thing, I don't take any of that seriously. Nope.

Speaker 18 I think right now he's decided this is the thing he wants to do, which is, you know, take down Donald Trump with some things that may be true, some things that may not.

Speaker 18 The bottom line is, though, that's his motivation motivation now, and it should be seen through that lens.

Speaker 46 This is a mobster that would say, you know, when I was killing, you know, when I was killing Vito the Shark and

Speaker 17 Tommy Knuckles, I didn't have a problem with it.

Speaker 45 But as soon as I had to kill, you know, their wives, well, then I really had a problem.

Speaker 46 Look, killing is killing. Yeah, right.
Killing is killing.

Speaker 18 Tommy Knuckles, I like that. Okay.
A lot of people have asked me whether Mr. Trump knew about the release of hacked Democratic National Committee emails ahead of time.
The answer is yes.

Speaker 18 So this is another one where, okay, this has been one of the big accusations. Is there any evidence of this? Here's what he says.
In July 2016, days before the Democratic Convention, I was in Mr.

Speaker 18 Trump's office when his secretary announced Roger Stone was on the phone. Mr.
Trump put Mr. Stone on the speakerphone.
Mr. Stone told Mr.

Speaker 18 Trump that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange, and Mr.

Speaker 18 Assange told Stone that within a couple of days there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton's campaign. Mr.

Speaker 18 Trump responded by stating to the effect, wouldn't that that be great?

Speaker 7 I believe that.

Speaker 18 You believe that happened? Yeah. Now, whether Stone actually talked to Assange, we don't know.
Yeah. He could have easily been puffing up this morning.

Speaker 22 Because Stone is a liar.

Speaker 19 Stone's also. Stone is a guy who.
So

Speaker 24 Stone would lie to Trump to raise his position in the organization.

Speaker 51 I don't know if Stone is lying or not.

Speaker 46 He may have, he may not have, but I do believe that Donald Trump is the guy who would have gotten on the phone and with Stone and he would have said, hey, man, I just talked to Julian Assange, and I can't give you all the details, but something's coming out on Donald, on Hillary.

Speaker 24 Wouldn't that be great?

Speaker 30 And that fits what happened in the timeline.

Speaker 22 It fits with him.

Speaker 45 Remember the press conference he gave?

Speaker 25 He said, Hey, some things are going to be coming out.

Speaker 56 Remember that?

Speaker 38 In the next few days, the thing's going to be coming out.

Speaker 6 So, yeah, it looks like that.

Speaker 40 Also, it fits to me.

Speaker 44 Remember, the only thing at at that time that Trump, Trump's team, they say not Trump, but Trump's team, and I believe this

Speaker 34 between Stone and Manafort, it may have just been Trump's team and Trump just saying, hey, just take care of this.

Speaker 15 Let's just make sure we're friendly.

Speaker 3 Remember, the only thing they cared about in the platform was

Speaker 22 going soft on Russia's policy for the Ukraine.

Speaker 59 You remember?

Speaker 18 I do remember that story.

Speaker 25 And so that's all happening in the same week that this is.

Speaker 24 Is it going to matter?

Speaker 57 No.

Speaker 51 It didn't matter then.

Speaker 32 It won't matter now.

Speaker 18 Just to point out, that does contradict Stone's, the case, the government's case against Roger Stone.

Speaker 18 In his text messages, he kept repeatedly saying that no one from the Trump camp was listening to him as far as Assange's emails.

Speaker 18 He said he was reaching out to a guy that was unnamed, but we all know now that it was Steve Bannon. That was his contact.

Speaker 18 It was never directly with the president, according to his text messages and the federal government's indictment. But he kept saying, I'm reaching out to tell

Speaker 18 Steve Bannon this, but he's not listening.

Speaker 18 No one will listen to me on this.

Speaker 58 And again,

Speaker 18 you have to understand, you have to put Roger Stone in context. He very well could have been lying on all the text messages, too.

Speaker 58 He lies all the time.

Speaker 29 That's all he does.

Speaker 18 So you can't really, it's hard to get, it's interesting because we talked about this as people surrounding Trump during the campaign.

Speaker 18 A lot of them are

Speaker 18 sincerely problematic people that lie all the time in a way that inoculates Trump here because you can't trust any of the insiders. Yeah.

Speaker 18 Any of them that have accounts against Donald Trump are so untrustworthy and been shown to be so untrustworthy so many times. You can't believe any of their claims.

Speaker 18 Even when they're texting about things that are bad for them or good for them, there's always an agenda behind it.

Speaker 42 Remember, it was Nixon's attorney that said under oath, like on a day like today, when they really didn't have anything, and he said under oath, I think the president has been taping our conversations.

Speaker 3 Well, as soon as that came out, then they started looking for the tapes.

Speaker 43 Right. And then that's why

Speaker 44 Watergate broke apart, was because of

Speaker 31 Nixon's attorney testifying and testifying that he thought the president was making tapes.

Speaker 5 But those guys didn't have any credibility either.

Speaker 51 They had no credibility.

Speaker 18 Well, Dean had more credibility than Stone or Cohen, though.

Speaker 57 Oh,

Speaker 2 absolutely.

Speaker 43 But they all went to jail.

Speaker 60 The best of the Glenbeck program.

Speaker 39 Pat Gray is joining us now.

Speaker 26 There is something that's really interesting.

Speaker 58 This whole system is already beginning to fall apart, even before it has really even been fully implemented.

Speaker 34 And that is now with transgender.

Speaker 47 The truth is that women and men are built differently.

Speaker 32 That's science.

Speaker 23 Wow, did you hear that?

Speaker 19 On the radio inside. Yeah, I did.
I did.

Speaker 42 So they're built differently.

Speaker 40 And now who's suffering?

Speaker 61 The girls in school.

Speaker 26 The girls who are losing their scholarships to go to college.

Speaker 40 They're losing them to guys

Speaker 40 who now are transitioning to be women because they're faster runners.

Speaker 1 And they don't think that's fair.

Speaker 44 What a surprise.

Speaker 62 In Connecticut, it happened with two girls, two trans girls, in one race. The top two winners were both transgender.

Speaker 62 I mean, so it's really starting to affect women's sports, and they're not happy about it. And when they speak out about it, they get beat to a pulp because you're not supposed to say anything.

Speaker 6 They just kicked Billie Jean King out of the, I don't know, the clubhouse.

Speaker 62 Martina Navitalova.

Speaker 1 No, Billie Jean King.

Speaker 32 Billie Jean too?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Billie Jean King this week.

Speaker 22 Wow.

Speaker 3 Martina Navitalova.

Speaker 15 Last week.

Speaker 19 Last week.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So they are.

Speaker 62 That's incredible.

Speaker 42 These are people who stood.

Speaker 63 They were pioneers.

Speaker 40 This is like kicking Martin Luther King out of a civil rights group today.

Speaker 61 And believe me, if Martin Luther King were alive, they would kick him out.

Speaker 27 It's probably true.

Speaker 8 First of all, he was way too religious, that guy.

Speaker 14 Yeah, they were reverend before his name.

Speaker 63 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 18 That's unbelievable. Yeah.
I mean, and he talked a lot about personal responsibility. I mean, he talked a lot about being

Speaker 38 not colorblind.

Speaker 40 It's wrong now to be colorblind.

Speaker 14 Yeah. Wait a minute.
I thought that was the point.

Speaker 19 You thought wrong.

Speaker 38 And

Speaker 62 gender is about identity and feelings.

Speaker 62 Feelings.

Speaker 38 It's

Speaker 38 not a lot of people.

Speaker 63 Morris Albert sings about.

Speaker 38 That's not what you're supposed to base gender on.

Speaker 4 Right. I remember that going.
Come on.

Speaker 18 I remember watching, because we were talking about this.

Speaker 18 What's the difference here between gender? Like, we're describing something, right? There are organs on a person, and that's what we're describing. And they seem to be describing something else.

Speaker 18 And we were watching, this is when Pat, we were on Pat and Stew, and we watched a clip about Ellen talking about it. And she said,

Speaker 18 gender is a feeling you have in your brain

Speaker 12 or in your heart.

Speaker 38 That's right.

Speaker 18 And it's like, well, that, that, I mean, just talking about your feelings may have value, but I don't think it has value in this conversation. Well, wait a minute.

Speaker 32 If that is true, fine.

Speaker 20 Then we need to use science and talk about the body, not your feeling, when you're competing with sports.

Speaker 43 You're only hurting the girls. You're hurting the girls.

Speaker 64 And this is proof positive that

Speaker 20 socialism will never take hold.

Speaker 34 You'll have to kill millions of people because socialism, as I'm going to explain in my CPAC speech, has nothing to do with fairness or justice.

Speaker 5 Has nothing to do with it.

Speaker 47 Okay? That's not its goal.

Speaker 44 That's the goal of the free market system.

Speaker 31 That's the goal of a constitutional republic is justice, as close as we can get to justice.

Speaker 32 Here's what's happening.

Speaker 38 Americans are fair.

Speaker 26 Americans are open.

Speaker 21 Americans do not want to judge their neighbor and somebody who lives differently than them.

Speaker 24 For the most part, there are bigots on both sides.

Speaker 3 Okay, but for the most part, people are like, look, man, you want to call yourself a chick?

Speaker 65 Call yourself a chick?

Speaker 19 Whatever.

Speaker 44 If you want to live like a woman, fine, do it.

Speaker 32 I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 40 However, when it starts to affect me

Speaker 32 and my life, then I have a problem.

Speaker 12 And you should.

Speaker 32 Right.

Speaker 40 And as it is now starting to trickle down into all of these kids that said, no, I'm for fairness.

Speaker 22 Well, yes, so are conservatives.

Speaker 45 So are constitutional libertarians.

Speaker 1 We are for being fair and open and decent.

Speaker 47 But once it starts to hinder your life and your rights,

Speaker 21 you don't have, no one person has a right to trample on the rights of another.

Speaker 40 And by competing, if we're going to put men and women in the same sport, fine, then it makes no difference. But we separated because Americans knew scientifically men and women are built differently.

Speaker 38 They just are.

Speaker 51 And you have to reject all science to think differently.

Speaker 41 And so we separated them so it would be fair so the girls could win.

Speaker 1 What are the girls saying now in Connecticut?

Speaker 62 Yes, they're losing out on scholarships. It's just unfair.

Speaker 40 And they say they know what the outcome is before the race is even won.

Speaker 42 Yes.

Speaker 42 Before they even start,

Speaker 42 they know those people are going to win because they're built as a man, and so they're going to win.

Speaker 46 And they said, every race, it's the same.

Speaker 26 Why are we even racing?

Speaker 62 Yeah, and these are the kids who have been taught their whole lives that they should be inclusive and they want to be. They should be diverse and they want to be.
And then they get to this

Speaker 62 and they're finding out that now there's some problems with all of that. Yeah, we want to be inclusive and we want to be diverse and all those things are great, but there's also fact.

Speaker 62 There's also science and region, reason, and logic. And it's not logical for these, you know, these are identifying as women, but they got a man unit in their pants.

Speaker 14 That makes it different.

Speaker 19 It does a testosterone. That makes it different.

Speaker 45 The man unit besides the testosterone doesn't matter.

Speaker 62 It's the muscle mass and the bone stuff, but it's because they have a man unit in their pants.

Speaker 18 They have a different muscle structure. Correct.
And this is why we don't have kids making these decisions. They eat paste, right? Like, this is not a tide pods.
Yeah, tide pods. Thank you.

Speaker 19 It's like, you know.

Speaker 2 I got news for you.

Speaker 16 It's not kids making this decision.

Speaker 34 Those are adults that have been making these decisions.

Speaker 18 Right, but the kids have been grown up, are growing up under those conditions where that is now just the truth.

Speaker 19 They've bought into all that.

Speaker 18 They bought into it.

Speaker 62 But now it's affecting them.

Speaker 18 Yeah. I mean, so I, you know, it kind of goes back to what I believe is the light in the life of one Pat Gray and the Pat Gray Unleashed program, which is liberals eating their own.

Speaker 18 And you watch this kind of go on. It's fun.
It is fun at some level. But I mean, like, you know, we talked about this a while ago.
I mean, Rue Paul got in trouble for saying the word tranny.

Speaker 58 Yes. Rue Paul.

Speaker 18 Jeez. We played the clip of Pat and Oswald.
I don't think we have it around anymore, but of him, a progressive guy, going off on this and saying, can you believe? I mean, this is a guy who

Speaker 18 blazed paths. He's a guy who was on Logo, which is like the, you know, the gay cable network, you know, gay programming.
He was had a big show on that network.

Speaker 18 He is a guy that everybody knew as a cross-dresser and someone who embraced these progressive values.

Speaker 18 Now he's becoming a victim victim because he used the word tranny, which is not even okay for him to use.

Speaker 63 It goes so far, so fast, because there's no principles here.

Speaker 18 It's all a moving target. It's all emotion.
And it's all emotion.

Speaker 8 Let me ask you this.

Speaker 8 Anybody noticed who one of the speakers is?

Speaker 29 It's CPAC.

Speaker 19 Glenn Beck?

Speaker 35 Van Jones.

Speaker 14 Oh, yeah. What?

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 62 Van. Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 22 Jones.

Speaker 18 Which is an amazing world. Glenn Beck and Van Jones on stage.

Speaker 59 It's CPAC.

Speaker 38 That's fascinating. Wow, the world changes.

Speaker 58 So

Speaker 3 here's the thing.

Speaker 18 What's he talking about?

Speaker 29 I'm sure he's talking about justice

Speaker 45 and working together.

Speaker 8 And here's the thing.

Speaker 27 He's an outcast.

Speaker 38 Of the left. Of the left.

Speaker 42 He's an outcast.

Speaker 41 The guy was a communist.

Speaker 42 He's an outcast.

Speaker 40 The guy who I said 10 years ago is the most radical guy in the administration is not radical enough, and is speaking at CPAC.

Speaker 48 So incredible.

Speaker 62 So incredible.

Speaker 15 It's incredible.

Speaker 62 So incredible. And with the transgender thing, you know, all across the nation, everybody's trying to figure out how to deal with it.
In Texas, there's a rule that you've got to compete

Speaker 62 under the gender that's on your birth certificate.

Speaker 62 So that caused a problem because a girl who wanted to compete with boys and she's on the testosterone hormone treatment, so she's stronger and more agile and dominating in women's wrestling.

Speaker 62 But she had to. She wanted to compete against the boys.
They wouldn't let her.

Speaker 62 In Connecticut, it's different. It's the gender with which you'd identify.

Speaker 18 In Texas, are they doing the hormones because of a transition or is it because of a transition?

Speaker 38 Because of a transition.

Speaker 18 Because of the transition. So they can't, because you wouldn't normally be able to use, let's say, steroids, right?

Speaker 62 And they make the exception for the translation.

Speaker 18 person. And that's, again, where the issue stands.

Speaker 58 You shouldn't be able to.

Speaker 29 Yeah, again, it's a chemistry issue. It's a problem.

Speaker 18 If they're taking these things really for any reason, I mean, I think you'd feel bad if it was for like

Speaker 62 you get kicked out of Major League Baseball for taking testosterone.

Speaker 22 It makes you stronger and faster.

Speaker 38 Yeah, it's Armstrong.

Speaker 19 It's really correct.

Speaker 18 That's part of his situation.

Speaker 35 It's really, truly amazing how

Speaker 27 the effects are so clear and are going to pile up faster and faster once you start rejecting science.

Speaker 51 science, once you reject science, I mean, that's why that's, you know, that's the meaning behind my last book.

Speaker 40 It's science and it's dismantling absolutely everything in our society.

Speaker 51 Once you start to dismantle science, you can't go to the moon anymore

Speaker 24 because

Speaker 41 two plus two equals five sometimes.

Speaker 57 Yeah.

Speaker 58 Well, what?

Speaker 41 You can't do anything.

Speaker 32 Our whole world

Speaker 51 is based upon science and empirical evidence. Now, nothing is.

Speaker 40 Nothing is.

Speaker 62 And isn't it fascinating that they used to throw that around at us, that we're the science deniers? And now it's the Democrats who are denying science on whether a fetus is a human being.

Speaker 52 Whether a baby is a human being.

Speaker 62 When a baby is a human being, and it's not what's in your pants that decides. It's how you feel in your head that decides your gender.

Speaker 12 What?

Speaker 62 No, it isn't.

Speaker 19 No, it isn't.

Speaker 32 Now,

Speaker 50 to be

Speaker 32 American, if you want to say you're a woman and you're a man, because that's the way you feel, and you have a gender issue, okay.

Speaker 17 Go ahead.

Speaker 3 And I might even call you ma'am because I don't need to hurt your feelings.

Speaker 8 I don't need to prove anything to you or whatever.

Speaker 39 I don't, you know, it depends on how deep this goes and if I, how much I have to, you know,

Speaker 22 honor your delusion.

Speaker 37 I'm not going to go down that road, but to be polite, I'm living next to a guy who dresses like a woman.

Speaker 16 I'm going to tell my kids, yeah, he's got some gender issues.

Speaker 39 You know what?

Speaker 24 But he's our neighbor.

Speaker 32 We love him.

Speaker 54 Just be polite.

Speaker 49 You know, say, good morning, ma'am, or whatever.

Speaker 15 Okay, let's just be cool with each other.

Speaker 37 Americans want to live that way.

Speaker 20 They just don't want it forced down their throat.

Speaker 24 And that means they don't want somebody saying, you're gay.

Speaker 34 No, you can't love another person of your gender.

Speaker 42 You can't do that. You can't do that.

Speaker 50 They don't want that either.

Speaker 32 They just want it, oh, you're gay.

Speaker 3 Oh, you're living with another person of your gender.

Speaker 58 Okay.

Speaker 3 Kids, that's homosexuality. We think it's wrong.

Speaker 6 They think it's right.

Speaker 44 Okay, move on with your life.

Speaker 32 That's what America wants.

Speaker 46 And for some reason,

Speaker 1 there are others, well, I don't need to say for some reason, for reasons of power and control and manipulation, they must have us all think alike.

Speaker 15 They must have us tow the line, whatever that line is today.

Speaker 47 It'll be different tomorrow, but we must all learn.

Speaker 44 You tow the line.

Speaker 34 That's the end of America.

Speaker 3 That's the end of the American experiment.

Speaker 16 That's the end of everything we are as a species.

Speaker 65 That's what this battle is about.

Speaker 32 And we are at the end of this battle.

Speaker 20 Now, it's going to go on.

Speaker 27 If they win, it's going to go on until they are thwarted 100 years from now, maybe longer than that because of technology.

Speaker 40 But that battle will continue one way or another.

Speaker 7 But we are about to be put in a cage.

Speaker 42 I mean, I don't know if you realize, 5G, that decision is being made right now.

Speaker 1 They are building

Speaker 58 a rat trap.

Speaker 51 China is building a rat trap.

Speaker 42 We are at the height of the Cold War with the missiles.

Speaker 7 And we don't even know it.

Speaker 42 Nobody's even talking about it.

Speaker 17 In the next six to 18 months, places like Germany and Britain and Australia, they're all deciding whether or not, yeah, we can have Huawei technology for our 5G.

Speaker 7 If that technology is put in, China rules all information.

Speaker 15 They have access to

Speaker 32 every single gas line that runs around the world.

Speaker 7 They win every war before a bullet is ever fought.

Speaker 65 And what are we talking about?

Speaker 27 We're talking about Cohen.

Speaker 9 Get your priorities together, America.

Speaker 31 Science matters.

Speaker 27 Facts matter.

Speaker 60 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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Speaker 69 I could not be a more committed, progressive, feminist, pro-gay, pro-transgender person, but I cannot keep up with the glossary of correct terms.

Speaker 23 I'm not kidding.

Speaker 11 I want to help, but holy f.

Speaker 11 It's like a secret secret club password. They change it every week.
And then you're in trouble. That's not the word we use.

Speaker 11 It was last week.

Speaker 14 I have hemorrhoids. My is falling out.

Speaker 14 I want to help.

Speaker 14 I know I'm an old cis white f,

Speaker 11 but don't give me shit because I didn't know the right term.

Speaker 4 RuPaul. RuPaul.

Speaker 38 Got into sh for saying Tranny.

Speaker 4 Ru fall.

Speaker 4 Amazing.

Speaker 16 They're eating themselves, and it's a joy to watch.

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Speaker 34 The Republicans don't have any leg to stand on either.

Speaker 44 They loved Cohen when he was defending

Speaker 7 the president, and he had no credibility then either.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I like Jim Jordan, but Lanny Davis did not discover Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen was in the organization for a very long time.
That's why we know who he is.

Speaker 18 And he was on television, being sent on television to defend the president for a very long time.

Speaker 33 And a lot of people liked that.

Speaker 9 And he was a liar then.

Speaker 39 He's a liar now.

Speaker 27 There's just not a lot to say.

Speaker 46 It's now 26 minutes into his testimony.

Speaker 51 He hasn't spoken a word.

Speaker 18 This is exactly what you'd expect from this. Jason, what do we get in here? We got about a minute before we have to go to break, and we're going to come back with more of the testimony.

Speaker 18 So Jordan was just, he yielded his time over just prematurely, but then he was like, oh, wait a minute. And then Cummings was like, no, nope, you yielded your time.
And he's like, but I have a motion.

Speaker 18 And he's like, nope, I'm not going to hear your motion. You're done.
And then Jordan's like, oh, that's how you're going to operate?

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 29 I mean, this is getting fiery.

Speaker 18 It's just like, this is the show, right? This is a, it's a big show for both sides to get out their arguments and say that they're, you know, trying really hard and tough.

Speaker 18 And like, look, Jordan's correct here. Cohen is,

Speaker 18 uh, has zero credibility. Zero.

Speaker 63 I mean, he has, it's really less than zero.

Speaker 18 The guy has been lying. Basically, every time you've ever seen him speak, has been a lie.
So to bring him in and act as if he's credible now is completely disingenuous from the Democrats.

Speaker 18 And it was also disingenuous from the Republicans when they were treating him credibly back in the day.

Speaker 50 You know, what's amazing to me is we have actual issues going on.

Speaker 18 President's in North Korea.

Speaker 58 We are in Vietnam.

Speaker 18 Talking about North Korea.

Speaker 27 I mean, that's going on.

Speaker 41 Our special forces this week, it was found out, are now training for

Speaker 25 operations against China and Russia and de-emphasizing the Middle East and terror.

Speaker 34 This started because of China and Russia.

Speaker 61 And there's nobody talking about that.

Speaker 40 This is not about actually finding any truth and anything that is going to help the American people.

Speaker 5 This is a political and you said it right show.

Speaker 20 All the world has become a stage.

Speaker 17 And we're just watching a show while the real moves are being made by Russia and China and the financial and tech centers.

Speaker 41 What are we doing?

Speaker 5 What are we doing, America?

Speaker 15 Wake up.

Speaker 60 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 2 This week already, Democrats voted against protecting newborns who were born alive so the doctor or their parents could kill the child.

Speaker 15 Now those same people who want us to be able to kill baby

Speaker 32 bring us a conman, convicted felon, and perjurer to try to tell us this person can be trusted.

Speaker 45 We have to hear the truth.

Speaker 41 Ben Sass is here.

Speaker 25 What is the state of the American soul, Ben?

Speaker 55 Oh, Glenn, that's too big for Wednesday morning.

Speaker 55 Monday night in the Senate was a shameful disgrace. I mean, I remain optimistic about the pro-life movement in the long term for a whole bunch of reasons.

Speaker 55 But one of the basic ones is there's a lot more imaging technology in the world. And what we find is as people see more 3D images of what's happening in utero, they recognize that a baby's a baby.

Speaker 55 The pro-baby position and the pro-compassion position, the pro-science position actually are all the same one.

Speaker 55 So I'm optimistic, but America's soul on display, at least through its supposedly greatest deliberative body, Monday Night was tragic.

Speaker 51 So, Ben, what does this say to?

Speaker 33 I think, and I don't know where the cutoff is with God, but I believe in an American covenant that was started with George Washington and that he will withdraw his protection.

Speaker 9 And I think some of that has been withdrawn slowly.

Speaker 33 But when we can't say, hey, we're not going to kill newborns, and everybody knows that's infanticide.

Speaker 36 I think God withdraws from that. What does that say about the Democratic presidential

Speaker 6 candidates?

Speaker 42 I mean, what's going to happen to the Democratic Party when they embrace the worst possible position and say, yep, we're okay with that?

Speaker 55 Yeah, I mean, so let's distinguish between one really big point and then a smaller political point.

Speaker 55 But the first and bigger point, bigger than politics, is it shouldn't be right versus left to affirm human dignity.

Speaker 55 When we believe the American experiment is premised on the idea that everybody's an image-bearer, that God created people with dignity and with rights.

Speaker 55 Government is not the author or source of your rights. Government is just our shared project.
It's a tool to secure rights that we've already been given by God.

Speaker 55 And you have to affirm universal dignity to understand what America is about. That is not Republican versus Democrat.
It should be bigger than that.

Speaker 55 Now, the much narrower political point is there's so much contribalism in our country that we're not having a conversation that pretends the 320 million of us are in anything together.

Speaker 55 And so you had 44 Democrats out of 100 people in the U.S. Senate vote against a resolution Monday night that was really just condemning infanticide.

Speaker 55 I'm as pro-life as they come and unapologetically so. But our bill Monday night wasn't actually about abortion.
It didn't touch Roe v. Wade.
It didn't have anything to do with abortion access.

Speaker 55 It's about babies that have already been born alive. And we had, I think, six Democrats, I was floor manager Monday afternoon en route to the vote.

Speaker 55 And I think we had six Democrats make speeches and four of them were just filled with blatant lies talking about health of the mother and the second prime minister and debates that are messier than what we're actually talking about here.

Speaker 55 Their stuff had nothing to do with the bill whatsoever. They were making up stuff that isn't anywhere in the text of the bill at all.

Speaker 55 And I think they think they can get away with lying like that simply because they know that America is tribal enough that people only listen inside their own silos and they're not going to be called to account because they're talking to people who already agreed with them.

Speaker 55 That's how a republic dies. We're supposed to believe some stuff in common.

Speaker 17 Ben,

Speaker 17 I can't thank you enough for making this stand and pushing and standing tall on this and firm.

Speaker 9 We're behind you and we support you on this effort and many of the other efforts.

Speaker 54 You are a guy who possibly can bring us back together.

Speaker 9 And as strange as this may sound, abortion in the end may be one of those things that brings us back together because the left has gone so far they're in the territory of a Jason movie almost.

Speaker 34 Senator Ben Sass, thank you so much for joining us.

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I'm so disappointed in you, Stu.

Speaker 59 Are you?

Speaker 2 These are important questions.

Speaker 17 So really important questions.

Speaker 46 And you just fail to see the importance.

Speaker 6 You have Ms.

Speaker 46 Norton.

Speaker 28 Yeah, hi. I just want to say

Speaker 28 the Access Hollywood tape. Yes.

Speaker 38 That's an important thing.

Speaker 12 This is a congressional hearing.

Speaker 28 It had a lot of hits on the website. Yeah.
And it shut down the newspaper servers.

Speaker 50 It did.

Speaker 28 It set a record for a lot of hits in a short time.

Speaker 6 Access Hollywood.

Speaker 28 And that was the tape that was out for the people to

Speaker 28 hear and see. And what did you hear? And

Speaker 28 people went on the internet, which is a series of tubes that creates information and collects it like a bank tube. And it goes from

Speaker 28 one side of your computer to the other, and then over to your neighbor's computer, and then continues to go down your street until it leaves your street and goes into the center of town.

Speaker 28 At that time, uh, is uh then able to be passed along to other areas of the country through the tubes c carried by small hamsters who walk the information to the computer that you're designing.

Speaker 22 Mr.

Speaker 23 Chairman, I would just ask that the gentlewoman

Speaker 3 is please instructed to shut up.

Speaker 57 She's hurting our case.

Speaker 18 I mean, you have this big moment in front of national TV,

Speaker 18 Michael Cohen, you have a very short amount of time, and she's legitimately praising the web stats of the Access Hollywood video.

Speaker 19 Well, because

Speaker 3 Cohen needed to say, Hope Hicks asked me to call the networks and spin the Access Hollywood tape.

Speaker 38 He's working for the president and in the presentation.

Speaker 52 Of course, he's spinning it. Who was surprised by this?

Speaker 38 Go ahead.

Speaker 29 Bring this in.

Speaker 38 The Access Hollywood study

Speaker 48 in terms of impact on the election.

Speaker 48 I was concerned about it, but more importantly, Mr. Trump was concerned about.
That's my next question. What was the president's concern about these matters becoming public in October?

Speaker 57 What do you think?

Speaker 57 This is so ridiculous.

Speaker 29 What was the president?

Speaker 68 I don't think anybody would dispute this

Speaker 68 belief that after the wild

Speaker 68 fire that encompassed the Billy Bush tape, that a second follow-up to it would have been pleasant. And he was concerned with the effect that it had had

Speaker 68 on the campaign, on how women were seeing him, and ultimately whether or not he would have a shot in the general election.

Speaker 48 And so you negotiated the $130,000

Speaker 48 payment.

Speaker 74 That had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 68 The $130,000 number was not a number that was actually negotiated. It was told to me by Keith Davidson that this is a number that Ms.
Clifford wanted. Well,

Speaker 48 you finally completed that deal, as it were, on October the

Speaker 73 25th,

Speaker 48 days before the election. What happened in the interim?

Speaker 68 Contemplated whether or not to do it.

Speaker 68 Wasn't sure if she was really going to go public. It was, again, some communications back and forth between myself and Keith Davidson.

Speaker 68 And ultimately, it came to either do it or don't, at which time, again, I had gone into Mr.

Speaker 75 Speaker.

Speaker 75 If I could, I would like to talk about that. Can I go back to the Access Hollywood tape that was on the internet?

Speaker 59 This was a diesel bus.

Speaker 38 Was it not?

Speaker 28 It was run on diesel fuel, and when it was fueled up, it would have to go to a diesel pump, which is different from the unleaded pumps. Now there's three varieties, of course, of unleaded.

Speaker 75 You have the

Speaker 19 committee member to

Speaker 38 tell us why that's important.

Speaker 28 Now, if you have a membership card to the gas station, you can remove points, and those points will then refer to lower gas prices in the future.

Speaker 28 Filling a diesel tank with regular unleaded would be a

Speaker 8 hang on here's here's Mr. Meadows.

Speaker 38 Here's Mr. Meadows.

Speaker 66 To actually shed some light, how long have you known Ms.

Speaker 48 Patton?

Speaker 68 I'm responsible for Lynn Patton joining the Trump organization and the job that she currently holds.

Speaker 38 Well,

Speaker 69 I'm glad you acknowledge that because you made some very

Speaker 66 demeaning comments about the president that Ms.

Speaker 48 Patton doesn't agree with.

Speaker 69 In fact, it has to do with your claim of racism she says that as a daughter of a man born in birmingham alabama that there is no way that she would work for for a an individual who was racist how do you reconcile the two of those mr as neither should i as the son of a holocaust survivor

Speaker 48 wait mr cohen

Speaker 48 i guess what i'm saying is is i've talked to to the president over 300 times i've not heard one time a racist comment out of his mouth in private.

Speaker 71 So how do you reconcile it?

Speaker 64 Do you have proof of those conversations? I would ask you to.

Speaker 69 Do you have tape recordings of those conversations? No, sir.

Speaker 72 Well, you've taped everybody else. Why wouldn't you have a tax?

Speaker 73 That's also not true, sir. That's not true.

Speaker 38 You haven't taped anybody?

Speaker 48 I have taped.

Speaker 48 How many times have you taped individuals?

Speaker 68 Maybe 100 times over 10 years.

Speaker 70 Is that a low estimate? Because I've heard it's over 200 times.

Speaker 68 No, I don't think. I think it's approximately about 100 from what I recall.

Speaker 64 But I would ask you to. So why would you ask me a question?

Speaker 38 Do you have proof?

Speaker 38 Do you have proof? Yes or no?

Speaker 74 I do.

Speaker 48 Oh, where's the proof?

Speaker 64 Ask Ms.

Speaker 48 Patton how many

Speaker 48 people who are black

Speaker 68 are executives at the Trump organization.

Speaker 29 That's not

Speaker 57 true.

Speaker 29 I would ask you.

Speaker 28 As I said, he's not a good lawyer.

Speaker 18 No one ever accused him of being a good lawyer.

Speaker 43 Horrible.

Speaker 18 I mean, he just is just assisting.

Speaker 38 All right, let me go on a little bit further.

Speaker 72 Did you collect $1.2 million or so from Novartis?

Speaker 76 I did.

Speaker 59 For access to

Speaker 67 the Trump administration?

Speaker 48 No, sir.

Speaker 72 Why did you collect it?

Speaker 68 Because they came to me based upon my knowledge of the enigma, Donald Trump, what he thinks.

Speaker 64 Sir, please let me finish.

Speaker 38 No, did they pay you $1.2 million

Speaker 70 to give them advice?

Speaker 64 Yes, they did.

Speaker 68 A multi-billion dollar conglomerate came to me looking for information, not something that's unusual here in D.C.,

Speaker 68 looking for information, and they believed that I had a value.

Speaker 64 So, how many times did you meet with them?

Speaker 48 Was the insight that I was capable of offering them

Speaker 73 willing to pay?

Speaker 66 How many times did you meet with them?

Speaker 72 For $1.2 million, how many times did you meet with them?

Speaker 68 I provided them with both in-person as well as telephone access whenever they needed it.

Speaker 38 How many times?

Speaker 59 Yes, sir.

Speaker 48 That's a question, Mr. Cohen.
I don't recall, sir.

Speaker 64 So did you ever talk to them?

Speaker 68 I spoke to them on several occasions yesterday. How many?

Speaker 64 Six times.

Speaker 66 Six times.

Speaker 57 Wow.

Speaker 66 $200,000 a call.

Speaker 64 Sir, I also would like to

Speaker 48 bring you to the next one. This is my five minutes, Mr.
Cohen, not yours.

Speaker 72 Did you get money from the Bank of Kazakhstan?

Speaker 68 It's not a Bank of Kazakhstan. It's called BTA.

Speaker 72 BTA Bank, Kazakhstan, BTA Bank. Did you get money from them?

Speaker 48 I did. For what purpose?

Speaker 68 The purpose was because the former CEO of that bank

Speaker 68 had absconded with over, it was between $4 to $6 billion, and some of that money was here in the United States, and they sought my assistance in terms of finding, locating that money, and helping them to recollect.

Speaker 64 So are you saying that all the reports that you were paid,

Speaker 67 in some estimates, over $4 million, to have access and understanding of the Trump administration,

Speaker 69 you are saying that all of that was just paid to you just because you're a nice guy.

Speaker 73 I am a nice guy, but more importantly, you are not a good person.

Speaker 48 I mean, I would beg to differ.

Speaker 59 And the record reflects that you are not a nice guy.

Speaker 68 Each and every contract contained the clause in my contracts that said, I will not lobby and I do not do government relations work.

Speaker 48 In fact,

Speaker 68 Novartis sent me their contract, which stated specifically that they wanted me to lobby, that they wanted me to provide access to government, including the president. That information

Speaker 59 I've seen this movie before we do it.

Speaker 57 We know how it works.

Speaker 38 We live through the Clintons.

Speaker 64 So, Navarta's representatives say that it was like they were hiring a non-registered lobbyist, so you disagree with that?

Speaker 68 I don't know what they said, sir, but that the contracts.

Speaker 66 Have you ever contacted anybody in the administration

Speaker 71 to advocate on behalf of any aspect of any of your contracts.

Speaker 48 I ask unanimous consent, Mr.

Speaker 67 Chairman.

Speaker 67 I ask unanimous consent.

Speaker 71 The gentleman's time has expired.

Speaker 48 You may answer the question.

Speaker 68 I don't know what you're referring to, sir.

Speaker 48 Mr. Chairman,

Speaker 38 Mr. Chairman.

Speaker 23 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Speaker 19 Oh, my God.

Speaker 41 You notice every time he runs out of time,

Speaker 3 and you have to answer the question, he's like, I didn't understand.

Speaker 27 I don't know what

Speaker 6 you said.

Speaker 23 That's tired of being lied to.

Speaker 76 They have been lied to by President Trump. They've been lied to by the President's children.

Speaker 76 They have been lied to by the President's legal representatives. That's you.
And it pains me to say that they have been even lied to.

Speaker 76 by his congressional enablers who are still devoted to perpetuating and protecting.

Speaker 18 We talk about this every day, and there's a lot of people that I've just never even seen before that are in these hearings.

Speaker 18 I've never seen this guy before in my life.

Speaker 23 No, I don't. Mr.
Clay.

Speaker 33 Any idea where Mr. Clay is from?

Speaker 29 Missouri, it says, yeah, Missouri.

Speaker 76 Must be reported accurately on his federal financial disclosures and when he submits them for a so

Speaker 38 let's just talk about this for a second.

Speaker 76 Cohen, you served for nearly a decade.

Speaker 40 If I may,

Speaker 27 this has done absolutely nothing but divide the nation into camps deeper.

Speaker 50 If you believe Donald Trump,

Speaker 38 you're deeper into his corner.

Speaker 12 Sure.

Speaker 19 If you don't believe Donald Trump, you're deeper with the Democrats.

Speaker 38 However,

Speaker 26 if you are neither,

Speaker 43 if you're just like, I just want the truth,

Speaker 22 this is a ridiculous soap opera.

Speaker 7 This is a soap opera that no one would believe.

Speaker 46 If you wrote it, you wouldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 You'd be like, they're not going to do that.

Speaker 2 They're not going to ask that question.

Speaker 18 Are you the type that doesn't want to get to the truth about the web stats of

Speaker 18 the bus station?

Speaker 43 Imagine that in the soap opera.

Speaker 77 And I want to bring up the Hollywood Hollywood Access Hollywood web stats. Billy Bush's career started in 1991 with an appearance on...

Speaker 52 No one would believe it.

Speaker 19 No one would believe it.

Speaker 17 I think the 70% of this nation needs to just grab the 30% of the nation by the shoulders and say, stop it!

Speaker 38 What's wrong with you?

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