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And if it doesn't backfire,

may I use the president's word, bigly, then I think we're in serious trouble.

And when I say we, I don't mean the GOP.

I don't mean conservatives.

I don't even mean we as a country.

I think we as a species are screwed.

First, it was a commercial ran by Planned Parenthood, and it used a precious-looking little baby in a lullaby, and then these words.

She deserves to be loved.

She deserves to be wanted.

She deserves to be a choice.

Wait, wait, wait.

What?

Am I the only one that's not dead inside?

How evil do you have to be to see this beautiful child, to hear a lullaby, see this cooing little baby, and then

try to think that this baby could have been killed and it would have been a good thing?

I mean, it's just, really, it's crazy.

You know, if you were struggling, this baby deserves to be loved, unless it was inconvenient for mom.

And then mom should have killed it.

Oh, my gosh.

Now, this was just the first crazy ad.

The second crazy ad, I don't even know what it's about.

I had to ask around, what the hell is this?

Celine Dion,

everybody's personal favorite.

Celine Dion has just launched a new clothing line.

You know, that's just what I've been waiting for.

I mean,

I've been hearing the clamoring all around the streets of America going, could we just get a clothing line from Celine Dion?

Well, yes, yes.

She now, she's launched her clothing line with a little mini movie style commercial.

But I have to warn you, it's one of the creepiest things you'll hear.

Well, I was going to say all year, but we're still three, four weeks away.

We might hit something even more creepy by the end of the year.

Listen to this.

Our children,

as we are all just links in a never-ending chain that is life.

For us, they are everything.

But in reality, we are only a fraction of their universe.

Mom and dad miss the past.

They

dream of tomorrow.

Oh, that's great.

We may thrust them forward into the future,

but the course will always be theirs to choose.

Of course.

Now they're wrapped in pink and blue blankets, but she's about to

blow out of her hand some sort of magical,

well, it kind of looks like ashes.

And it floats around the room of this nursery in a hospital, and all the blue and pink goes away.

It all goes away.

Oh,

isn't that great?

And then everybody's wearing black and white because our children aren't really ours.

Yes, they're the focus of our lives, but we're just an insignificant little nothing to them.

Celine, it doesn't make me want to buy your baby clothes.

In fact, it makes me want to do the opposite.

It really does.

Really does.

This is Marxist propaganda.

Now our children are not our children.

And this has been coming for a long time.

Now, Celine loves this because, isn't she Canadian?

Canada's been on this whole thing of, oh, you know, your children, you know, they're your children until we tell you they're not your children.

Because really they belong to all of us.

You know, the great we.

Oh my gosh.

By the way, does anybody know what

1984,

they claim that George Orwell may have stolen this idea of 1984.

And 1984 is a big government.

It controls everybody.

Everybody has a number and a name and big brothers watching you.

But it's actually, and now that I've read the book, I think you can make a pretty strong case that it was stolen from a Russian novel in 1922.

You know what the name of that Russian novel is?

We.

We.

Have you read Anthem by Ayn Rand?

Where nobody can say I or me.

Each individual is we because the individual doesn't exist.

You're not an individual.

You're part of the collective.

You're just a spoke on a giant wheel.

That's all you are.

And, you know, if we start to run down to too many spokes or, you know, not enough spokes, you're not really even a spoke.

Because you have to be identical to everybody else and you are just part of the collective.

This, again, is Marxist propaganda.

And Celine Dion is shown in this little mini-movie breaking into the hospital nursery where she delivers the line,

they have the right to choose.

Oh, really?

Which turns the hospital into some Orwellian, you know, black and white room, removes all of the pink and blue, and changes all the boy-girl

symbolism.

into like hospital crosses that are just black.

Honestly, it looks like they're almost wearing prison clothes.

It's beautiful.

No, I seriously, I love my kids so much where they just everything is black and white in their world.

You know, gray.

Oh, if we could get them those Nehru jackets, if we could get them the old communist, you know,

like Mao jacket for the kids, wouldn't that be cute?

The scariest thing about the past seven days or so is I haven't heard any real backlash from either of these.

Have you seen a backlash where a beautiful baby is

used as a choice?

It deserves to be loved, deserves to be wanted, and deserves to be a choice.

Mom should be able to kill this beautiful baby.

Are we dead inside?

Are we so

are we so

Marxist now?

has the has the cultural Marxist movement washed over us so much that we're now either just dead inside from all of it because we just I don't know it just

or are we starting to believe it

how long are we going to allow this crap how long before we all

start standing up and saying no our children are our children.

That's my child.

My child.

My child is an individual.

My child is not a number for the state, not part of the collective.

It's my child.

I have the responsibility.

No government, no Marxist, no capitalist has any claim to them.

And gender?

You know, I really feel,

I really do feel for Bruce Jenner.

I will call Bruce Jenner Caitlin out of respect.

I feel for him.

I feel for the life that he led.

I feel, my heart breaks to think the guy that was on my Wheaties box at the whole time felt like he wasn't himself.

He spent his whole life hiding.

That is horrible.

It's just horrible.

But he's still Bruce Jenner.

He's still a guy.

He might have changed his name.

And if he wants me to call him Caitlin, I'll call you Caitlin.

Because

I don't want to be a part of any of your pain.

But if you have to put me on the stand and say, is that a male or a female?

That's a male.

It's a male, period.

It's Bruce Jenner.

And I can understand, but I am not going to change reality.

Now, if Bruce Jenner wants to become Caitlin Jenner and wants to have surgery and everything else, he's an adult.

He can do that.

He can do that.

You have a right to do that, but it is child abuse.

Child abuse to suggest that a 10-year-old should be giving hormones,

that a 10-year-old should be allowed to choose at that point.

This is crazy talk.

Any attempt to trivialize and to diminish life,

any attempt to trivialize or diminish the family,

Any attempt to trivialize or diminish the individual into the basic we

any attempt to trivialize or dismiss basic science should be met head on

Now I don't know how many people can still stomach hearing my heart will go on one more friggin' time.

But please, for the sake of sanity

Celine,

I'll buy a ticket to to your show.

I'll endure that if you will just

close your mouth,

stop trying to preach Marxist propaganda,

and we'll listen to your damn, oh my gosh, the boat is sinking song.

It's Friday, November 16th.

You're listening to the Glenbeck program.

She has a right to speak out.

Yes, she does.

Yes, she does.

And you know what?

I'm not going to protest her show, saying,

you know, she doesn't have her right to say anything.

Could we play from yesterday?

I just want to play those students again from

out front of the Ben Shapiro speech.

These are college students.

Here's what we should not do to Celine Dion.

Do Do you think he should speak tonight or no?

No, no, not at all.

About free speech and the Constitution hasn't worked.

That's a good point, but

he shouldn't be allowed to have free speech if he's going to preach the kinds of things that he's preaching.

Okay, stop for a second.

Stop right there.

Stop right there.

So, wait a minute.

You shouldn't have free speech if you're going to preach the things that he's preaching.

Okay.

Well, then, there is no free speech.

There is no free speech.

Free speech is all about politics it is all about life it is all about pushing the boundaries of ideas that's what freedom of speech is that's why we have it protected what do you think the founders did that

Because they were speaking against the government and they were only 20%.

It was about 20 to 25% of the American population that believed we should break away from the king.

25%.

So this wasn't the majority thought.

In fact, a lot of Americans thought they were very, very dangerous.

Oh my gosh, they're going to get us all killed.

But they continued to do it.

And the king wanted to silence them.

And they said, no, we are not subjects.

We are people.

That was heretical.

That was something that that's that's a completely new idea.

Now you want to silence people?

No, freedom of speech is absolute.

I'm sorry.

And by the way, I can prove this to you because while on tour,

I went into crowded movie theaters and shouted fire

in every stop, in every city.

I was on stage,

fire!

Was I arrested still?

No, but that did really happen.

Yes.

You can, in a crowded movie theater, cry fire.

There is no law against that, unless

your intent is to cause panic, to cause chaos,

to

lie, to cause people to be trampled to death.

If you really think there is a fire, you can do it.

Or if you're trying to make a point, you can cry fire.

You can do it if you're trying to get people trampled to death.

So,

no, the freedom of speech,

as long as you're not trying to get people killed.

And even that is questionable.

Because you could say that's what the founders were preaching.

The founders were preaching people getting killed.

Yes, they were talking about war.

So let me pick up the rest of it because this is the most important part that we heard from these college students being interviewed about why

Ben Shapiro should not be heard.

Specifically, what does he say?

I don't know what he said specifically.

I don't know what he said specifically.

I just don't agree with his platform.

Okay, stop.

Okay, so

what is Ben Shapiro's platform?

What is it?

They don't even know.

Now,

here's the really hopeful part.

I talk to millennials.

I meet with millennials.

The millennials that I know, the millennials that I work with, they are hungry.

They're hungry.

They're starving.

And here's what they're starving for.

They're starving not for somebody to tell them what to think and what to say.

Here, just chant this back.

Mike check, mic, check.

Just follow me.

They can get that anywhere and everywhere.

Every teacher they've ever had has told them what to think.

Society tells them what to say, what's popular, what's not popular, where to stand at all times.

Get in a single file, get in a single file.

Hey, by the way, we are all individuals here.

We are are for freedom absolute freedom we're not like those fascists get in the single file get in a single file repeat this like I said we're not about fascism here we're fighting get in line

at some

level

millennials know that doesn't make sense Now, they may not have even thought of it that way because they're not encouraged to think.

But the minute you engage a millennial and you start asking them questions,

and not questions to trap them,

just questions,

honest questions,

to hear their point of view

and to continue to pull at that thread.

It doesn't last long

because all they've been told is get in line.

They're starving for someone

to help them understand the world.

They're starving for someone to teach them how to question

and how to find the answers.

They've got enough people trying to tell them what the answers are.

They don't have anybody trying to teach them how to find the answers on their own.

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Welcome to the program.

So yesterday,

this guy, this kid in junior high, calls me up and he says, Glenn, I'm having a really hard time educating my friends because they don't really want to hear it.

And

I can be, I don't remember the word he used exactly,

but it was basically, I can,

I can get heated at times.

Belligerent?

Yeah, a little belligerent.

Was that the word that he used?

I don't remember, but that's, yeah.

It was that neighborhood.

It was probably not that strong, but it was in that neighborhood.

And so he asked for advice.

And the thing that came off right off the top of my head was you need to read how to win friends and influence people.

Now, Now, I haven't read this probably since I was a teenager.

This is my dad.

My dad was,

oh, I mean, how to win friends and influence people.

That's the greatest book ever written.

That'll change your life.

Last night, I reread it, and it was like having a conversation with my dad.

And I realized where so much of what I believe comes from.

I mean, if you really want to know

who I am

or the or the

basis of me, a cornerstone of me.

It's this book.

And it's amazing.

It is amazing.

I had forgotten how good it was.

You're going to have dinner.

Welcome to the program, Pat Gray.

You're going to have dinner with your relatives who are absolutely

on the wrong side of every argument.

Here's how you have a really

good Thanksgiving.

i'm just gonna i'm gonna give you the highlights um fundamental ten techniques in handling people number one don't criticize condemn or complain human nature does not like to admit fault when people are criticized or humiliated they rarely respond well

two

give honest and sincere appreciation appreciation is one of the most powerful tools in the world people will rarely work at their maximum potential under criticism three Three, arouse

in the other person an eager want.

To get what we want from another person, we must forget our own perspective and begin to see things from other people's perspectives.

Six ways to make people like you more.

Be genuinely interested in other people.

Two, smile.

This is something my father did.

If he told me that story one more time, my father was,

look, he was horribly abused as a kid, and he had nothing to go on.

So he just looked for great ideas.

He was kind of a Willie Lohman kind of guy, where he just didn't have a lot of friends, and he just worked all the time.

But his friends, I found out later in life, were people like this, Norman Vincent Peale, that were just his book friends.

And he would take these ideas and he would apply them.

And he told me, he said, son, he said, I want you to do this.

He said, I did this when I was like 18.

I walked down the streets of Seattle.

And he said, I walked down one side of the sidewalk, one side of the street, and I frowned at everybody.

And I just kind of looked at them and just kind of dismissed them.

And he said, everybody I met was a grump.

He said that I crossed the street after a few blocks and I decided to smile.

And everyone I met on the other side of the street greeted me with happiness.

He said, so either there's a problem, you're on the wrong side of the street, or it's what you're putting out.

This is Norman Vincent Peale again.

Smile.

Remember that a person, remember a person's name.

Oh, that's a really hard one.

Be a good listener.

Encourage people to talk about themselves.

Talk in terms of other people's interest.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Okay, now listen to this.

If you apply these at Thanksgiving, you are going to find a completely different atmosphere.

Listen to these 12 ways to win people to your thinking.

One, the only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it.

Whenever we argue with someone, no matter if we win or lose the argument, we all still lose.

The other person will either feel humiliated or strengthened and will only seek to bolster their own position.

We must avoid arguments whenever we can.

Two, show respect for other people's opinions.

Never say you're wrong.

How many times have we said that?

How many times have I said that?

We must never tell people flat out that they are wrong.

It will only serve to offend them and insult their pride.

No one likes to be humiliated.

We must not be so blunt.

That's the word that kid used.

Blunt.

Blunt.

Three.

Three.

If you're wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically.

Whenever we're wrong, we should immediately admit it.

Four, begin in a friendly way.

If we begin our

interactions with others in a friendly way, people will be more receptive.

Five, start with questions to which the other person will always answer yes.

That is that's the theory of in my book about the unum.

Where do we agree?

Where do we agree?

Find the things that we agree on.

Start there.

Let the other person do a great deal of talking.

Summon, let the other person feel the idea is his or hers.

Try to see things from the other person's point of view.

Other people may often be wrong, but we cannot condemn them.

We must seek to understand them.

Success in dealing with people requires a sympathetic grasp on the other person's viewpoint.

Nine, be sympathetic with the other person's ideas and desires.

People are hungering for sympathy, they want us to recognize all that they desire and feel.

If we can sympathize with others, they will appreciate our side as well, and it will often come around to our way of thinking.

Now, think of that.

When people say, I don't want to know what they're thinking, I don't want to because it's wrong.

Well, no, no, no, no, you're looking at the solution.

Listen to what they're feeling.

What they're feeling is real.

Their solution may be bogus, but what they're feeling, and think about you.

Where is a lot of this anger coming from?

This anger is coming from the place where we don't feel heard.

If the media would actually listen to us, actually listen to us, Our world would be a lot different if they reflected our point of view.

And if they would look at us and say, well, that's not racist.

Wait a minute.

You have to understand what these people are feeling is a loss of the country that they grew up in, a loss of the values that they grew up in.

And those were values that have been here for 5,000 years.

They're not racist or xenophobic.

They're having all of the basic principles shift under their feet.

Wouldn't you be more apt to listen to somebody who understood you?

Dramatize your ideas.

Throw down a challenge.

The thing that most motivates people is the game.

Everyone desires to excel and prove their worth.

If we want someone to do something, we must give them a challenge, and they will oftentimes rise to meet it.

But be a leader.

Don't give offense or arouse resentment.

Begin with praise and honest appreciation.

Call attention to people's mistakes indirectly.

No one likes to make mistakes, and no one likes to have others point it out in front of other people.

Talk about your own mistakes before criticizing the others.

Ask a question instead of giving a direct order.

Listen to this one.

Let the person save faith, face.

Nothing diminishes the dignity of man quite like an insult to his pride.

How many times have we said,

for those people who

let's take on our own side, side, for those people who have been with Donald Trump the whole time, what are you doing?

What are you doing?

When you have people that are coming, like for instance, me or anybody else, when you have people start to come into the tent, why would you say,

well, it's about time you were so stupid?

Why would you do that?

Why would you do that?

Welcome them.

If you have somebody from the other side, well, you've been wrong your whole life.

You know, it's part of your problem that we have these problems.

They're not that they stop.

They're coming into the tent.

Embrace them.

Hug them.

Oh, man, we're glad you're here.

See, this would be the Clinton thing right now is one that I struggle with because, you know,

where was the media?

Where was the left during all of these years where Bill Clinton was the same horrible person he is today?

Now, finally, after Hillary's lost a couple times and the family's going, you know,

he's set out to pasture.

It's okay.

But this is, I think, where we miss the boat because we immediately jump to the media and the politicians.

They're not honest.

Yeah, no, it's true.

That's not who I'm talking about.

Forgive the media for what they're doing?

No, let's point out when they're right.

Let's point out when they're wrong.

And let's welcome them when they're right.

You know, if that ever happens.

But

we're not talking about them.

I'm talking about the people at your table next week.

I'm talking about the neighbors.

I'm talking about the people that you work with.

This is about one-on-one.

This is not about changing the media.

This is or Washington.

This is about changing the people around you.

Yeah, because we do basically the opposite of everything you just described from the book right now.

We're doing the opposite of all of it.

Everybody does.

Both sides.

One side's worse than the other.

Yeah.

And I don't know.

I mean, I think because I definitely handle issues on this show differently than I would handle them with friends I was trying to convince.

No, okay.

Like if I was trying to convince you, because you know, because we do this for a living, when you go out to dinner with anyone, they basically ask you lots of political questions because, you know, that's what you do.

You talk about the other person's work.

And if the person I'm talking to is not

on the same side of the issue as me, I tell them how stupid they are.

I tell them how dumb they are.

What's wrong with you?

Why are you such a dumbass?

I am not reaching for the check when it comes.

You try, you do almost all the things you just listed.

And I do those all the time.

You want to, if you're trying to convince them or at least trying to make them open their mind to the possibility that maybe they're not right,

you use those things.

Now, when we're on the show, I don't do that.

Now,

I think that's the problem.

I don't know if it's a problem or not.

I'm conflicted with it because part of it is we're talking to an audience largely that

understands the basic foundations of what we're talking about.

This audience, generally speaking, is going to know that that higher taxes are bad, right?

So

I don't need to slow play that and

try to convince them of that.

No, but here's what we don't do.

Why was Rush Limbaugh so popular in the 90s?

Because he taught you how to win an argument.

Okay.

And

he had to teach you.

He wasn't talking about how to finesse it.

He was just teaching you the basic principles that we now, you say, we all have, that this audience understands basics, you know, the basic principles.

Okay.

But what we didn't do, that was back in the 90s, and that worked because nobody had any of the facts.

We needed to have that baseline, and we still need to teach people baseline stuff.

But now.

You know, around 2000, that was over.

People were condemning Rush Limbaugh.

And if you said it came from Rush Limbaugh, well, you roll your eyes.

Now it's Fox.

Anything comes from Fox, they roll your eyes.

You used to say you you didn't want to put your own names on your books.

You didn't even want to put Glenn Beck on the book because it was just people wouldn't take it seriously if they were on the books.

Correct.

Correct.

So what we need to do is start teaching people.

And

here's lesson number one.

Read this book, how to win friends and influence people.

Read it.

Because it has all of the answers on how we can move forward and actually make a difference, not just politically, but also at the Thanksgiving table next week.

One thing you don't want to do is just start calling people morons.

By the way, Pat, what's the moron trivia score today?

1310, Indianapolis over Tennessee.

Ah, yeah.

The morons in Indiana.

Indianapolis beat the morons in Tennessee.

So they're all.

Congratulations.

Any spectacular morons today?

Yeah, some pretty good ones.

Okay, good.

We'll hear about those on Monday.

Thank you, Pat Gray, for joining us.

Pat Gray.

And Pat Gray Unleashed is a podcast that I listen to every day, and you should too.

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Mr.

Bill O'Reilly, it has been a pretty hectic week, but I don't know the last week that we went.

Nah, really nothing happened.

And I think we should start with your op-ed today: the Trump Media War.

Okay, Beck, I'm ready to go.

Good, then go.

The Trump Media War

is,

I would say, depressing to Americans who are thinking people

because it basically signals that there's not going to be any unity in this country while President Trump is holding the office because neither side is going to back down.

All right.

But then I took a letter out of my historical collection by Harry Truman, which makes the column really worth reading.

And I say this is nothing new.

And Truman just excoriates the media and gives examples about how it was so unfair to Abraham Lincoln and George Washington and other presidents.

So it really isn't new.

What is new is the machines, the tweets, the hysteria on cable news.

All of that is new.

But, you know, it seeps into the culture and it makes us

a more disagreeable population back.

So let me go back because

the first paragraph of

your op-ed, which is honestly the only paragraph I read,

Mr.

Prescription.

It was about Jim Acosta.

So

let me go here because you're absolutely right on

this has always been this way.

It's just everywhere now, and it's in our own personal life, and we are participating in sharing it now.

So it's everywhere.

um but let me specifically go to jim acosta because i'm really i i'm i'm i'm sick of this uh debate here i think and correct me tell me where i'm wrong here i think the president taking away jim acosta's um uh pass the white house pass

is justified in this case because Jim Acosta needs somebody, should be CNN, to say, Jim, there are rules.

And you can ask a follow-up question.

It used to always be, sir, I have one question and I'd like a follow-up.

Yes, go ahead.

Then the follow-up.

He would not stop asking questions.

The president answered.

He really tried to answer to the best of his ability and peacefully and nicely.

Jim Acosta really didn't even ask a question.

He was just trying to condemn the president.

He was picking a fight with the president.

CNN should have said, Jim, stop it.

We don't behave that way.

And I don't care how the president behaves.

We're not going to behave that way.

So

the question is,

is this a freedom of speech issue or freedom of the press issue?

I don't think it is.

No, it's a quality control issue.

On billorilly.com, that's where the column that you refused to read.

And in fact, you're wealthy enough to have people read it to you.

Oh, I can't pay people enough.

I can't pay people enough to.

I can't have people to follow you and read it.

Oh, they can't do it.

You can't do it.

They're like, please.

The column's on billorilly.com, and yesterday we brought in a guy, a lawyer, former prosecutor, who went down line by line over CNN's complaint and pointed out at least a dozen inaccuracies in the complaint to the federal judge that were flat out wrong and provable wrong.

You could see it with your own eyes.

And I said, well, will that influence the judge?

If CNN's not telling the truth about Jim Acosta and

what happened in the White House briefing room.

He said, well, it shouldn't influence the judge's ruling on the constitutional request, but it'll tee off the judge because the judge will see that CNN is lying, which they clearly were in the complaint.

So that tells you that CNN has no interest.

Give me the lies because I miss that.

That sounds like the first segment.

I'm going to go by BillO'Reilly.com every night.

I know.

It sounds like the first segment in three years that I've been interested in.

Oh, come come on.

He's just so jealous.

Oh, he's such a jealous guy.

He's Bill.

I agree with you.

Rub some of that painkiller on your forehead right now, will you?

Geez.

Okay, go ahead.

Okay.

So it's basically CNN alleges in its complaint to the federal judge that ACASA simply asked a question.

That's lie number one.

It's not what he did.

All right.

He haranged the president and insinuated that he was lying when he labeled the caravan an invasion.

Correct.

That's not a question.

It's an insinuation and a harangue.

And everybody knows it.

Nobody's going to say it isn't.

Even the people at CNN wouldn't say it isn't.

No, that's right.

Yet the management puts that in writing to a federal judge.

Come on.

It's ridiculous.

So your question was, shouldn't CNN try to rein in

its chief White House correspondent from disrupting a national press conference.

And the answer is CNN wants the disruption.

It's the only way they're going to get in the news.

Their ratings are horrible.

And their business model is to destroy the Trump presidency.

So of course they're going to say, hey, Jim, you know, go on in.

CNN's not banned from the White House.

They have correspondents that cover the presidential press conference, just not Acosta, because he will not obey the rules of decorum.

Well, here's the here's a let me play devil's advocate, and I don't, I do not think this is what's going on, but we have to protect.

I don't want a you know, I wouldn't want,

you know, Fox News to have who was it, Major Garrett, was really good at holding Obama's feet to the fire.

Jake Tapper, when he was, I think, with ABC, he was really good at holding, they were the only two that did.

And I don't want the president,

hang on, hang on,

I've hyped down for a second, man.

So

I don't want the president to be able to say, I don't like the fact that he asked me tough questions.

What I want is they have to be respectful.

And those guys were.

They were always respectful of the president and the office.

That's not what's happening with Jim Acosta.

If he were asking questions, tough questions, he would have every right to do it.

And I would celebrate, and I would stand behind his right to ask the toughest questions.

But that's not what he's doing.

But it's obvious it's not what he's doing.

And the White House denying him the press pass was not based on editorial content, it was based on behavior.

He was misbehaving in

their opinion, in the White House opinion.

So now the judge has to make that determination.

He has to say, was it the banishment of Acosta based on his behavior, or was it an editorial statement?

And I think it's clear

that it was behavior.

Billy.

We'll see if the judge, who is a Trump appointee, comes back today and gives CNN relief.

All CNN is asking for today is a restraining order against banning Acosta, not the whole

decision.

But what the judge will say is yes or no, you have to give him the pass back.

Why did he ask for an extra day?

I don't know.

I believe that

this is obviously the judge's big moment in the spotlight, and he wants to probably go over his decision,

every word of it, because he knows he's going to get hammered either way.

Whatever his decision is, the judge is going to get hammered.

So he wants to go over a little more time and just get the wording correct.

That's speculation, but that's what I would surmise.

Bill, separate from the actual court proceedings, because you said something, and I think I totally agree with it, which is CNN wants the disruption.

This is the way they're making news.

You know, Jim Acosta doesn't care about the truth.

Jim Acosta wants to be a star.

He wants to put himself and elevate himself to the level of a fight with the President of the United States.

My question is, just strategically from the Trump administration standpoint, doesn't this elevate him and put him on this platform where it's Trump versus Acosta, and it's giving Acosta everything he wants to be a martyr for the First Amendment.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Well, Trump sees it differently in the sense that Trump wants to build a wall, not only to keep out migrants on the southern border, but against criticism from the national press.

And part of the wall is convincing Americans that the press will never report accurately on him.

And look at this guy, look at him.

So

the Trump administration believes that Acosta's aggression

helps them by diminishing the press in general.

And, you know, I'll tell you what, if you look at the surveys about Americans and how they feel about the American media, they're down there in the 30s now.

They don't trust them.

They don't like them.

So

it could be something to that.

That's why Trump is doing it.

Why did Fox take the stand with CNN?

Well, that's an excellent question, Beck.

Of course it is.

It came from me.

I know.

A guy who doesn't read the research material before he interviews.

Oh, you know, I read every word of that damn thing.

I had to take no-does to get through it.

I know, Beck.

This is an

evaluation on the Glenn Beck radio program based upon my knowledge of what is happening at FNC.

Okay.

Regime change.

That happened when Roger Ailes left the company.

Now the new people

are not

of the same mindset of Mr.

Ailes.

All right, that's number one.

So there has been a change, a shift.

And the shift has basically been we have to become more mainstream, not more liberal,

but more mainstream.

We have a powerful brand.

We have a loyal audience.

And now we have to get closer to the other national media.

That's what we want to do.

That is the strategy.

That won't work.

Okay.

Well, maybe not.

Well, I mean, what is mainstream meaning?

What is it?

What is why they did what they did?

Right, but what does mainstream mean?

We want to be closer to the other state.

We want to be in the club.

They'll never be in the club.

Well, we celebrated when you and I were there, we celebrated the fact that we were not in the club.

We enjoyed the Maverick status,

which propelled Fox News to the top of the news ratings.

That attitude like we don't care about the corrupt media because we know they're not telling the truth and we're happy we're not in that club.

That has changed.

The day that Fox News fires their entire primetime lineup and to replace it with Shep Smith is the day they would consider,

consider allowing Fox News into the club for about two days.

Well, that's true.

I mean, Fox News is so demonized by the far left that no matter what it does,

but Fox News does not want to be criticized by the Washington Post and the New York Times and CNN.

So

they said, okay, well, we'll throw in with the

freedom of press movement and we'll file an amicus brief.

And maybe that'll send a signal that we want to be friends.

We want to be friends with you guys.

Okay, so Bill O'Reilly, when we come back, I want to talk to you a little bit about the border and what is happening.

And something I actually heard today driving in on,

I don't remember what it was,

some liberal podcast

that I was listening to driving in, and they said, you'll notice that the left is, or the right is not even talking about the border.

They don't even care about the border.

They've dropped that.

No, no, no.

We're talking about it.

We're very concerned about it.

In fact, I'm wondering what the president is going to be doing about this now.

So we go to the caravan and Mexico and how Mexico has provided police escorts to our border

when Bill O'Reilly comes back.

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I am here.

Thank you.

That was just doing a roll call.

Bill, you know, I enjoy our talks.

I hope so, Beck.

I mean, you know, I mean,

you learn, you learn, and you

cannot do it.

He cannot do it.

He can't.

He is incapable of saying, you know, me too.

Me too.

Well, I wouldn't do it if I didn't like it.

Okay, so Bill,

talk to me a little bit about the border and what's happening.

Well, first of all,

we were told that it was mostly women and babies and children marching to the border.

Remember, we were told that?

Yes.

And then we were told that they're never even going to make it to the border.

Right.

So now the latest pictures from San Diego sector, where it seems that most of the migrants are going, have

baby carriages

wall.

Did you see that?

No, I didn't.

It's weird.

I'm seeing like 20-year-old guys.

It's weird.

Oh,

I thought I saw a baby carriage right

on top of that 10-foot wall.

Yeah, no.

And then going, let me in!

Okay,

so number one, Americans should know that all of the reporting on this situation has been a giant lie and a ruse.

So what has happened is that this organization, Pueblos in Frantieras, received a grant of anywhere from $10 to $20 million,

organized these

people in Honduras and other countries to come here.

Where did the grant of $20 million come from?

It came from the usual suspects, the far-left crews that fund all of the open border stuff.

In Hungary, a law was passed against George Soros

specifically.

The law says anyone giving money to aid illegal immigration into Hungary will be charged with a felony.

Did you know that?

Yeah, I did.

I did.

Passed the parliament in Hungary.

That is a law.

They call it the anti-Soros law.

Unless you're on the left and they call it the anti-Semitic law.

Yeah, you know, but it's

mostly okay.

So, anyway, the the goal is to

break the asylum system in America, to to crash it.

That's why you're seeing record numbers of families coming across the border and being detained.

They're being told the migrants in Central America and in migrant if you get here with your children, you get in.

And that's largely true, as there is a three-year backlog to hear asylum cases, soon to be four years, if any of these thousands of people get in and ask ask for asylum.

So that is the strategy.

People should know the overall strategy of this.

It's to break the system apart so that anybody could come here and ask for asylum and their case won't be heard for six years.

Meantime, they're released into America.

And there is another thing going on.

I don't know if anybody picked this up.

In the trial of El Chapo,

currently underway here in New York, he is the cartel kingpin.

There are allegations being made that the president of Mexico, Nieto, was being paid by El Chapo.

What a shock.

Yeah, not a shock at all.

All right.

El Chapo, not only a drug dealer, but a people smuggler.

Okay.

So now we have that.

And now the new president, coming into power in about three weeks, has said, I'm going to legalize all drugs in Mexico.

I'm going to make them legal.

Oh, that'll be good.

That'll be good for America.

So that's another reason, and Trump hasn't picked up on this, which is amazing to me, because that's another big argument for the wall.

So you're going to have legalized narcotics, not pot,

legalized poppy fields, heroin labs, everything.

And you don't want a wall?

Okay.

All right.

We're going to pick it up there with Bill O'Reilly because honestly,

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Bill, some news just broke that the judge has sided with CNN.

Yeah, I see it.

Yeah.

Your thoughts?

Well, you're so lucky to have me here.

I know I am.

It'll be interesting to see if the White House appeals

because basically the judge is saying, and this is Timothy J.

Kelly,

you can be rude, you can be disruptive, and he says it.

You can do whatever you want and not lose your credentials.

That doesn't make sense.

So

okay.

That doesn't make any sense.

Yeah.

Well, certainly he will be overturned, I think,

by the Supreme Court.

And then, you know, if they appeal it to the liberal appeals court in D.C., they'll lose.

But

if they want to bring it to the Supreme Court, they'd win.

No doubt in my mind they win.

But the other way to handle it is, all right,

Acasa, you know, here's your press pass back, and never mention him again, never recognize him, never call on him, just freeze him.

So what do you do then?

Then if he disrupts the press conference, if he like says, I want my question, you haven't called on me or whatever, then you can say, thank you, ladies and gentlemen, we'll see you soon, and walk off the stage.

He won't do that.

You know, you could do that.

You could do the passive-aggressive thing

and just ice them.

Or you could try for the big,

you know, kahuna and have the Supreme Court say, no,

the government does have a right on its own property to regulate disruptive behavior.

You know,

there's nobody in their right mind.

You cannot run a society.

There is no civilization without being civil.

That's right, without rules.

Right.

So, I mean, this doesn't make any sense at all.

You cannot just act any way you want.

The Trump administration, the first thing you have to do is make some rules and distribute the rules.

They don't have those now.

Okay,

but again, if they did, then they'd sue on that.

They're limiting our access to the president and limiting what we can do and can't do.

Bad ruling.

What are you going to do?

This is our democracy.

This is the way we do it.

But the Trump administration has a couple of avenues to go if they want them.

Let me go back to the border.

You say that

the new incoming president of Mexico says he's going to legalize all drugs.

Doesn't this take the Yal Capone

out of the

No.

All this does is cut the overhead for the cartel so they don't have to bribe as many Mexicans and hire as many gunmen to shoot at the police and the army.

Wait, but you don't have to shoot at the police if it's legal.

I know.

so it cuts their overhead.

So they don't have to spend that.

All right?

And it all goes, oh, thanks.

Where do they make their money, Beck?

Not Guadalajara, not Mexico City.

They make their money in Chicago, New York, L.A., and all American cities.

So it just makes it easier for them to bundle up their product and send it to El Norte.

This is the best thing that could possibly happen to the cartels.

So what does that mean for

America and our policies?

We have twice as many hard drugs here.

I mean our policies, our policies.

For instance,

I'm done with Mexico.

When they escorted those buses, they escorted the buses with federales to our border.

That's not what a partner does.

They're doing that to protect the migrants,

shush.

You know, people who would beat them up and rape them.

I've been done with Mexico for a long time.

And I did go down there in the spring to Baja, and I did some reporting down there about how they were handling their military and dispersing them to fight the cartels.

That's all gone.

But now the argument for a border wall becomes even stronger when you say, okay, so now we have a free fire zone in Mexico.

They can do anything they want in hard drugs, so we've got to make it harder for them to get it into America.

No?

And they still, the liberals still wouldn't put the wall because eventually they want legalized hard drugs here.

You know, it's interesting.

I'm watching, switching back on the TV.

Fox News is ignoring the

CNN's

having a limbo party.

Limbo Lower now.

This is so funny

how this whole media thing is now based on

Trump.

Everything, 100% of it is Trump.

They don't have anything else.

They're going to have to run Andy Griffin reruns if Trump takes a vacation for two weeks.

It's it's they don't have anything.

Go ahead.

Bill, let me uh let me change uh subjects here.

Uh you know I I do a uh I run a charity as you run yours.

Uh and this weekend we're having an uh an auction to uh raise funds.

And I just wanted to bring a couple of things to your attention because I know you you collect uh you know rare uh rare writings.

Um we

We've formed a partnership with the Lincoln Museum in

Illinois, and they're the ones who have the original Gettysburg Address.

And as you may know,

only Abraham Lincoln made a copy of it,

and there are no other copies.

We have asked them, and shockingly they said yes, if they would make

a high-res

certified copy off of of the original.

So it's the only copy of the handwritten Gettysburg address that we know of

that

is up for auction and in existence.

And I just wanted to bring it to your attention that

the bidding stuff.

Are they going to make a lot of copies or just one?

No, this is it.

This is it.

Are they going to make one high-resolution?

This is it.

I'm holding it right now.

This is the only copy that they have ever made and they will make.

I might bid on that deck.

So, can I put you down for a number?

What do you have now?

$3 million.

That's what you know.

No, the bidding, I don't even know.

Do we have a bid on this yet?

It's online.

Yeah, but he's going to, I got to nail him down to a price now.

What kind of, what, do you know the number?

$15,000 is the opening bid there, Bill.

You should triple that at least.

Huh?

All right,

I'll go 20.

You go 20,000 from Mr.

Bill O'Reilly.

Wow.

Wow.

Nice work, Bill.

What a guy.

What a guy.

I am.

I am a swell guy.

You really are.

You're a great guy, and you've just bought something that Glenn wrote down with a pencil a half hour before the show started.

I'll frame it and put it in my garage.

A picture of Beck.

Bill O'Reilly.

Picture of Beck forging this, by the way.

If you do, I'd like to have that.

All right, Bill.

Thank you so much.

God bless you.

Thank you.

All right.

Happy Thanksgiving to all you guys.

And check out Killing the SS.

Great gift for anybody who likes history for Hanukkah, Christmas, and all of that.

It is a great book.

Thank you so much, Bill.

Appreciate it.

All right, guys.

Cheers.

I want to show,

if you happen to be watching us, I want to show you something else that is up for auction tomorrow.

It is directly behind Stu.

Can we get a camera on that by any chance?

It is directly behind Stu.

This is, I think this is one of my favorite pieces that we have in our museum collection this again is a high resolution copy but this is the first draft of the declaration of independence and this is

truly remarkable um because you can see uh ben franklin thomas jefferson and john adams they all signed where they changed things they were making uh it's like it's like a um

it's like a uh a google doc where you change change things and then you have to say who changed it and why and when.

And then

Thomas Jefferson would go back and click on the change if he approved it.

And it is remarkable because

it has on the third page

Thomas Jefferson, his handwriting changes.

He capitalizes the word men.

The only words that are capitalized in the Declaration of Independence are United States of America.

And in this copy, the word men.

And it's not all men are created equal.

It's when he's talking about the slave trade and how this Christian king is enslaving people and then selling capital letters men

and how he is violating

the most basic of rights of men.

from a different continent by bringing them over on this hemisphere.

It's truly a remarkable piece.

This is taken from the original engraving

from, I think it was done in 1820 or 1830.

And this also is opening up.

I think this one has a starting bid of like $2,000 or $2,500.

I mean, the frame is worth more than that.

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So Michael Little is joining us.

He is actually who would happen to be here

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He's the the COO of the Lincoln Museum and Library up in Illinois, which is this amazing museum that has preserved everything from Abraham Lincoln or as much as they could get their hands on.

And I just got a $20,000 bid from Bill O'Reilly.

Fantastic.

Thank you.

Now, he asked, is this the only copy that you guys have made and will make?

Yes, so this is the only copy that we've ever made, and I can guarantee this will be the only copy that we'll make.

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We don't know where it is.

Yeah, the original Gettysburg address was given to a reporter,

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And that reporter, the story is, didn't think that the speech would be worth much and just kind of threw it away.

Oh, my gosh.

So that's the one he wrote on the way there.

Correct.

And he was walking off the stage and just handed it to him?

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Glenn back.

A few months ago,

I had a guy walk into my office with his team

and

he said,

we're really concerned about the country.

And we're concerned about

the fact that we're not talking to each other anymore.

And I said, wow, me too.

He said, I know that's why we're here.

Now, this is

a guy who

probably

had people advising him.

No, I wouldn't go talk to Glenn Beck.

I don't know that, but that would be my general impression.

He took some probably some personal hits saying that he was going to go talk to Glenn Beck.

And he asked me at the time, could you help

get your audience to participate in something?

Because without your audience, this won't work.

Without the people who are in the middle of America

and

who

are not thinking like the

NPR listener, if you will, if they don't participate,

this doesn't work.

And what they're trying to do is, A, record the voices of people and how people feel right now and what they're really thinking.

But more importantly, they're trying to bring people together that

society would say have nothing in common,

but they find their way to each other and to record it.

If you've ever listened to NPR, you might have heard something called Storycore, which is really a fantastic

record of our society, an audio record of our society.

And really only the people who listen to NPR kind of know it.

The conservatives don't.

And it is tremendous.

But our voices are being left out.

Dave Isse is with us.

He's the founder and president of StoryCorps.

Welcome to the program, Dave.

Hey, Glenn.

Thanks for having me.

You bet.

So now, did I...

Did I describe, did I describe what you're doing and how you approach this accurately?

Yeah, I mean, just to wind back for your audience, StoryCorps started 15 years ago, and it's a real simple idea.

We put a booth just to start out in Grand Central Terminal, where you bring anyone who you want to honor by listening to their story, a parent, a friend, a kid.

And you come to this booth and you're met by a facilitator who works for Storycore.

And you go inside the booth, the door shuts, you're in a silent space.

lights are low and you sit across from your grandmother and you talk to her for 40 minutes.

And you know that the the microphone gives you the license to talk about things you never usually get to talk about.

So many people think of it as if I had 40 minutes left to live, what would I say to this person who means so much to me?

At the end of the 40 minutes, you get a copy and another stays with us and it goes to the Library of Congress.

So your great, great, great, great grandkids can get to know your grandmother through her voice and story.

So it's really about the poetry and the grace and the beauty and the eloquence and the stories kind of hiding in plain sight all around us when we take the time to listen.

It started as this kind of crazy idea and we've now had about half a million people participate.

So it's the largest collection of human voices ever gathered.

And because of the nature of what happens in the booth, we're kind of just collecting the wisdom of humanity.

It's about, you know,

you know, no matter where you are, it's always the great themes of human existence that come out in StoryCorps.

People talk about their parents and their kids and,

you know, death and what they dream of for their future, how they want to be remembered.

And we did.

Yeah, go ahead.

I was just going to say, and when you're recording it and you know this is for history, you take things a little more seriously.

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think it's, it's, my, my, uh, my people kind of hate me saying this, but it reminds us about our, of our mortality.

You know, it really kind of shakes you on the shoulder and said, and, and says, like, you know, life is important.

Ignore some of the not all the nonsense that's coming in, you know, and it forces you to focus on what really matters to you.

So it's a very kind of intense experience.

We're, we're a nonprofit and we think of it as, you know, we treat it as if it's a sacred experience in people's lives.

And often it is because, you know, like I did a storycore interview with my dad many years ago and then he died, you know, very suddenly.

And, you know, the night that he died, I listened to it for the first time.

And I knew, I have young kids and I knew this was going to be the way they were going to get to know my dad.

And, you know, I thought I couldn't believe in Storycore any more deeply than I already did.

But that night is, you know, when the rubber really hits the road.

It's who he is.

You know this very well from all the radio work you've done.

The soul is kind of contained in the voice.

So it's a no-nonsense.

It's the opposite of reality TV.

No one comes to get rich.

No one comes to get famous.

It's just about love.

And as you said, I came to you a bunch of months ago, one of my very first meetings.

to talk about this new thing, crazy new thing we're trying with StoryCorps.

Because up to now, everybody who's participated has known and loved each other.

And, you know, seeing the country kind of coming apart and recognizing, you know,

that really there's just such contempt across the political divides that we don't see each other as human beings anymore and the danger, the existential threat that poses to the country.

We started experimenting with a new kind of Story Corps interview.

We started with family members, which is easier, family members who disagree about politics, having them come into a Story Corps booth, not to argue about politics.

This is not about finding common ground.

It's about recognizing that,

you know, frankly, that you don't really wish people across political divides dead.

It's weird to say that, isn't it?

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

But, you know, unfortunately, you know, I came, I first met you four months ago, and where are we now?

It's a hundred times worse than it was four months ago, right?

So

we started with

Fret, with family members and friends, and then we moved to strangers.

We just launched a couple of weeks ago.

Any idea?

Could I play one here?

Tell me the story about Amina and Joseph.

This comes from the, they were at a march right after the 2016 election.

That's right.

This is a guy named Joseph Wideneck, who's

a laid-off sheet metal worker.

And he showed up at an anti-Trump protest in Austin with a MAGA hat.

And Amina Omdeen was a student at the University of Texas, and she was one of the marchers that day.

also came he also had a sign or a t-shirt or something that said proud to be a deplorable that's right right that's right and they came to storycore to remember uh the moment that brought them together okay so listen to this america listen i noticed you with the hat

and i noticed that you were surrounded by some people

and i noticed that they were being kind of threatening i heard a click of a lighter right behind my ear and there were about three people trying to light my shirt on fire with lighters and then somebody snatched your hat off your head.

And that's the point where I something kind of snapped inside me because I wear a Muslim hijab and I've been in situations where people have tried to snatch it off my head.

Wow.

And I rushed towards you and I just started screaming, leave him alone, give me that back.

I don't think we could be any further apart.

as people and yet it was just kind of like this common that's not okay moment

That's remarkable, Dave.

Remarkable, because that's, I think, who America really is, but nobody's paying attention to it.

Nobody's recording this.

Well, you know, the facilitators who travel the country for Story Core and record these stories, they call it, you know, they're basically collecting the wisdom of humanity.

They call it kind of bearing witness to these stories.

When they come off the road, every single one of them, If you ask them, what have you learned?

We've had hundreds of them.

They give some version of that Anne Frankline, you know, that people are basically good.

And, you know, I think you could say at the beginning of Story Corps, maybe there was a selection bias, but we've been everywhere, every kind of person, half a million people.

And

that's the truth.

I mean, I was in your newscast, I was listening to the story of the

homeless, the supposedly homeless guy and a few people who did this scam, right?

Right.

Yeah, and that's like the reality TV world we live in.

But for every story like that, there's a thousand, thousand stories of just decency and kindness and honesty.

And that is who we are as a country.

You know, Mother Teresa used to say, you know, we've forgotten that we belong to each other.

And what we're trying to do with Story Corps is remind people that

indeed we do.

Okay, so Dave,

how can we help you?

Well, we want every one of your listeners to participate in One Small Step.

We just launched.

And what we're trying to do is a real long-term culture change here.

We would love to have people volunteer to be a part of this.

It's going to take a little while as we get up to speed.

But if people want to learn more about this, they can go to our website, to storycore.org, or they can send an email to onesmallstep at storycore.org.

StoryCorps is S-T-O-R-Y-C-O-R-P-S.org and say they want to participate.

Right now, we're actually looking for participants.

participants in Houston.

So in particular, if there are people in Houston who want to be a part of this, we'd love that.

And we're going to pair you with someone who is on the opposite sides of the political divide.

You're not going to know who they are, but

we're going to ask you for a little bio.

We're going to strip your name off it and you'll get a bio from the other person.

So you'll know we've been experimenting with this, how to make this work.

And it's important for people to know

a little bit about the other person.

We're going to match you as someone who's got something in common with you.

It could be that you're both single parents or there's a sports team that you like in common.

And you'll sit and you'll talk and you won't talk about politics.

You'll talk about what you care about, who you love, who's been kindest to you.

And you'll talk about politics in a way that, you know, doesn't drive people into their corners.

You know, you'll ask questions like, what is it in your life that kind of formed, was there a moment in your life that formed your political views?

What is it that's most hurtful that people say across the political divides to you?

What really bothers you?

What is it you respect about people across the political divides?

Why are you here?

And we call it one small step because it's just, it's one step.

If we despise each other,

we're never going to get anywhere.

And we have to see the humanity in each other, or it's a real threat to our democracy.

Democracy

can't breathe without hope.

And we need hope and we need to respect one another.

I mean, I've been thinking a lot about

in Nazi Germany,

the Nazis used to call Jews and

black folks and others Untermenschen less than human.

And slavery was built on

people being looked at as less than human.

And there is a very, very deep danger in seeing people as less than human.

And that's just the little piece of this that we're trying to attack and set right.

We have to see each other as human beings.

And all of these, so you're definitely not looking for people who are going in.

They're trying to win.

nope yeah nope this is this is not about convincing that you know we we ask you just not to talk about politics but we do hope that you um that you you know i i think there's there's there's there's uh there's just a lot of fear everywhere you know and and uh i there there's a a great uh quote that I saw recently.

I've seen versions of this.

It's impossible to hate up close.

You know, Mr.

Rogers used to carry a line in his wallet from a nun in Philadelphia that said,

it's impossible not to love someone whose story you've heard.

So it's just about getting rid of that fear.

You know, we live in a country, I think, where there's less and less hope and more and more fear.

And, you know, where our most dangerous and worst selves were in fear.

So it's really about just seeing the other.

as a person and being with that person just for a little bit of time.

Again, they're 40-minute sessions.

And then hopefully we'll get you

addicted to Storycore and you'll start listening to these stories and finding out about people, the lives of people who you may have thought were very different than you, and recognizing yourself in that person and walking in their footsteps for just a minute and all of the good and important things that come from that.

So I'll tell you, Dave, this works, and I'll tell you how I know it does.

There was a guy who is one of the bigger Hollywood writers,

wrote for some of the biggest TV shows in Los Angeles.

And you must be in New York.

Yeah, okay.

You hear the signs.

But he was one of the bigger writers in Los Angeles.

And he came out to meet with me on a project.

And I wasn't aware that he hated my guts as much as he did.

And he started the conversation like this.

His hands were shaking.

He said,

I want you to know, I have waited for this moment.

I have talked to my friends for years what I would say to you if I ever met you.

And I want you to know, I hear people tell me all the time, once they meet you, they like you, but you're not going to work that voodoo on me.

And so we sat down and I, for 40, we only had an hour to meet.

And for about 40, 45 minutes, I just listened to him.

And I said, we can't.

talk about anything else until you get all of it.

You got to say all the things you want to say to me.

And I just listened to him.

In the end, he walked away and he told the people we were meeting with, he said, I feel kind of bad now.

He said he was, he was nice.

And we've actually become friends.

And we don't agree on anything.

Right.

But

he doesn't want to see me dead,

which is,

it was not where we started.

And that is remarkable when you and

it is.

It's about listening, you know, and it isn't, you know, there are issues that we're never going to agree on.

And that's okay.

And there's, and, you know, there's, and there's a place for, you know, shouting and fighting for issues, but there's also a place for kind of whispering in each other's ears.

And we need both, we, we need both of those pieces to be a functioning democracy.

All right.

If, if you want to volunteer, if you want to find out more, just go to storycore.org, story, C-O-R-P-S,

storycore.org,

and it'll give you all the information that you're looking for.

But please participate in this.

I think it's important and it is going to be preserved for future generations.

So, Dave, I so respect what you're doing and thank you so much and we'll talk to you again.

I hope so.

Glenn, thanks for the time.

You take care.

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Welcome to the program.

Mr.

Andrew Heaton is joining us.

I didn't get a chance to listen to Somethings Off with Andrew Heaton yesterday.

And I always learn something new.

What did I miss yesterday, Andrew?

Well, it was.

Yesterday I unveiled a new segment.

Yeah, pull your microphone.

Thank you.

Thank you.

There we are in the little top thing there.

Yesterday I unveiled a new segment called Naughty Parts Around the World.

Naughty Naughty Around the World.

I was going to call it Genitals Around the World, but I was talked out of that.

So Naughty Parts Around the World.

You did make sure to work the word genitals in several times.

I did, yes.

It became.

So you're still fighting against the man.

Yes, this is

my small battle

is to do that.

So it's a segment involving scandals, nudity, things like that, like Canada's opening up

an adults-only nude water park.

Oh, who wants to go?

Gentlemen in Canada?

Shrinkly cold Canada?

It just seems like a terrible.

Like Bermuda, I could kind of get that.

I'm with you because I've.

No, have you seen people at the water park?

Well, the water park I have no problem with.

I've been to nude beaches, though, and I can tell you the kind of people that want to hang out at a nude beach should never be naked, even by themselves at home alone.

I mean, I'm to the point where I want to shower in my clothes.

Yeah, that's,

you know, well, you're a respectable American.

That's just, you know, what you do.

Some people say that's Puritan.

I'm offended by my naked body.

I only take my clothes off when I leave the country.

That's how much respect I have for the United States of America.

I only see myself nude when I go to Amsterdam every three years.

So,

what other

the one I think that you would enjoy, the one that I got a kick out of?

30 seconds.

30 seconds?

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

In the the united kingdom there's an mp pushing to teach orgasms in school uh which i kind of followed for a minute but the reason is because there's an orgasm gap between men and women and i thought way to bring in bernie sanders to sex ed education and the way to deal with this is i think to have a higher marginal tax rate on people that have more sex

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Mercury.

This is the Glen Back.

I don't know if you ever have one of those moments where you kind of question yourself and your existence and all that you do.

And I think yesterday was one of those days.

Around this time, yesterday, we had a drawing for people who had...

put their name in for $100

to donate to Mercury One.

And the idea was we were going to draw your name the next day, and you could come and have dinner with us at the Mercury One gala.

And that didn't really go really well.

I'm concerned why you'd want to repeat the process from yesterday.

Well, because

we finally have somebody who wants to

join us.

Do we have Jodi on the phone yet?

Can we call Jodi, please?

She wasn't available yesterday.

And so I wanted to actually talk to her, and

I'm told that she's very excited.

And before we make another drawing for somebody who's going to come to the studios in February, or somebody that we're hoping will want to come to the studios in February,

I thought we'd call Jodi.

Sarah,

we,

oh, she's on right now.

Jodi, are you there?

Jodi, are you there?

Yes.

Hi, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm good.

How are you?

I'm very excited to talk to you.

You know, yesterday

you won the trip here to Dallas, Texas.

I did.

And we were.

And why are you...

Why am I not coming?

You're not coming.

No, I was just going to say, why did you say I did?

I did.

You're not coming.

I'm not coming.

And, you know, a funny story is that on Wednesday, when you were able to buy the ticket,

all day long I had this voice in my head: Buy a ticket, you're going to win.

Buy a ticket, you're going to win.

So at 9 o'clock at night, I finally listened to that voice and I bought a ticket.

I went to bed thinking, I'm going to win.

And I had to leave my house at 11:15 yesterday, and I went to the grocery store and kept getting all these phone calls saying, Glenn just announced your name on the radio.

And

I was.

And so, so, so, so, you knew you were going to win, and you bought the ticket because you wanted to win

but you're not coming and why is it

please tell me that it's something more important than like a movie I hope so yeah what is it yes I actually am a volunteer at one of our food banks or food pantries here in Corning New York where I live and Saturday is our annual Thanksgiving distribution day where we're giving out Thanksgiving baskets to almost 400 of our clients.

And I am one of the people that are leading that charge, and it's near and dear to my heart.

And although I love you, Glenn.

Oh, no, I think this is the best reason.

This is the best reason I've heard.

Well, the Hawaii one was good, too.

Hi, Jody.

My name's Andrew.

I'm delightful if you met me.

We'd really get along.

You're skipping the ball to do volunteer work, is that right?

Believe it or not, yes.

Wow, you are such a better human being than me.

I'm very impressed with you as a a person.

You're much funnier than I am, Andrew.

Do what?

You're much funnier than I am, Andrew.

That's the one thing I got going.

Thank you.

And I'm tall.

No, I was thinking, I don't know if you can count with that as a whole thing.

So, Jodi, that is fantastic.

So,

tell me about the soup kitchen and what you guys do.

Well, it's a food pantry, and we've been around since 1973, started in the church of a basement of a Catholic church, and have grown over the years to now we have a beautiful facility that affords us to do not only just give food but we also we give cooking classes and we have a lending library we do education for the kids in our community getting them to get involved in in community service and learning about hunger and helping out others that are not as fortunate as they are we work with head starts we work with veterans so

we do all that with we have about a hundred volunteers none of our so paid to do any of this

and we give away probably about

25 that we've had about 25,000 people that come through our doors each year and we give away about 130 tons of food and it's all on a donation basis mainly donations and grants that we go out and and seek

so uh I mean I just I was

just given a note from Suzanne who's with Mercury One and I think this is fantastic.

You know, we were going to fly you out and everything else.

May May we make a donation to your food pantry instead?

Oh, my gosh, that would be absolutely incredible.

We would so honor that.

Well, we'll make it out in your name

for $5,000.

Oh, my gosh, Glenn, you're kidding.

Oh, my God.

I cannot tell you how thrilled we are on that.

You know, for every $5 donated, we can use that money to leverage $28 of food.

So I cannot tell you how far $5,000 would go.

That is just, it's amazing.

Thank you.

Well, Well, maybe that is why we were, that's why the spirit was prompting you because

this has turned out to be so much better than a meaningless knife with us.

With us, really.

Although that would have been so much fun.

It would have been fun.

Yeah, you'd be surprised.

Jody,

I'm going to try and push back on this a little bit.

If you decide to come to the Mercury One Ball, I will give you eight canned goods.

Oh.

Wow.

Wow, that's a good idea.

Wow.

So either way, you get it.

So hang on just a second.

Jody, you may retract those eight eight canned goods here if I ask this question.

Are you married?

I am.

You're taking the canned goods back off the table.

Yeah, it was just a span.

Jody, thank you so much.

Hold on.

I have one quick thing.

Jody,

I did some back-of-the-envelope math here, and you said that you can get

$28 leverage for every $5 in or something like that?

Yes.

Okay.

So, Glenn, the foundation giving you $5,000, you could go out and buy a bunch of food.

I did some calculations here.

You could buy one pound of black truffle, two pounds of Wagyu beef, and two bottles of water from Niagara Falls.

Now, how great would that be?

You're trying to talk her out, and I don't know.

It's still the same amount of buddy.

It's just very small and high quality.

Jodi, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Thank you, Glenn.

I so appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

God bless.

And thanks to Mercury One for making that donation.

Okay.

Are we going to pick another name?

Now, this is for the people.

I'm not even going to call.

I don't even want to call.

This is for somebody.

We'll make one call.

Again,

this is what happened.

Yesterday, Andrew, you brought Andrew in to do this, and it did not go well.

Would you like to call it?

Is it possible Andrew's the problem?

Is what I'm trying to answer.

Would you like to draw?

No, I want to see if Andrew fails again.

Okay, go ahead.

This is Lori Burns.

And do you want the number?

3129.

That's her PIN number, as we've discussed.

Yeah, So if you can just get her credit card number, you've got the PIN number.

You can clean her out.

What a wonderful person we just spoke to.

I know.

It does make you feel a little.

Yeah.

Because, I mean, if I heard from somebody in there, like, I get a free trip for the weekend, I'd be like, soup kitchen thing.

Yeah, we got other people are doing that.

That's fine.

I'll go the following week or something.

I'd figure out a way to make it sound good in my own mind.

That's what I would do.

I wouldn't blow it off in a mean way, but I'd figure out how to do it.

No, you wouldn't.

And

you would absolutely.

absolutely, and then like two weeks later, you'd be like, that really says a lot about me, doesn't it?

And you would carry that guilt around for a while.

But Jody didn't have to worry about any of that.

I think what I would do is I would come, but on the plane ride, I would think about charity events that I intend to do in the future to make myself feel good.

And then I would forget.

I would not actually get around to it.

I'd get Saturday morning, I'd be like, you know, I've been pretty tired.

I'm going to catch up on the marvelous Mrs.

Maisel.

That seems like a good use of my time.

Okay.

Do we have the number going?

There's no answer.

So you have

Fram Euro for four.

Wait, no, wait.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

They'll call.

They'll call.

No, you're not reaching into another one.

Like I said, we're doing one.

We're doing one.

And think about it.

It's really nice that Mercury One is giving the $5,000.

I think they're going to love that truffle.

And that

Wagu beef.

Not exactly.

The two people that get to enjoy that Wagu beef are really going to get a game.

That's actually not

what's happening.

Okay, back in just a second.

In fact, Michael, can you just come in for just a second?

Michael Little, he is the CEO of the Lincoln Museum.

Just kind of crawl in.

Andrew.

Andrew's very smuggly.

He's huggable.

You can

get right in there with him.

Right in his.

Michael is a CEO of the COO of the Lincoln Museum and

Lincoln Library.

Tell her to hold.

And

you have donated, and Bill O'Reilly just bid $20,000 on this.

Fantastic.

Thank you, Bill.

And

I don't think it's going to stop there because I just want you to talk me into buying it because

this is the only copy of the Gettysburg Address that you've ever made or ever will make.

And you guys have the copy of the Gettysburg Address.

Correct.

We're doing this one time.

And we're doing it for you, Glenn, because this is a very special occasion.

So we've never done this before, and we'll never do it again.

So this is a really truly,

it's a one-of-a-kind item that's only available this one time.

It's one time.

And this is a high-resolution laser copy or whatever it is

done by the only person that can even touch the Gettysburg address.

Correct.

How do you get that on her?

How do you,

do you put a job search out looking for someone who can touch the Gettysburg address?

Well, it's somebody that has a lot of skill and she has a lot of

letters behind her name so that she is able to work with just incredible items.

She has no children, right?

I mean,

no jam hands.

No, and

she's just done a great job for us.

In addition to the Gettysburg Address, she's worked on the 13th Amendment.

She's worked on

the proclamation.

You know, she's worked on some just

rare, rare items.

What's coming down for the museum in February?

We're doing black history, and we've partnered with you in another, what is the name of the other African-American museum?

Just African-American Museum in Dallas.

And so it's going to be quite an amazing collection and a take on the African-American experience that you just don't see everywhere.

What's coming down from Lincoln?

You know, actually, right now, I think we're still working with your team to figure out what would be the best pieces to bring down.

So we'll definitely have some incredible pieces

because we do have the largest collection outside the Library of Congress for President Lincoln.

We have the largest collection of Mary Todd Lincoln items and documents.

Have you seen her dress we have?

Yes.

Isn't that amazing?

Oh, it's incredible.

We have her funeral dress.

Yes.

And I don't know.

I'm one of the only people allowed to touch it, so I'll have to show it to you myself.

But if you actually turn the hem underneath,

you can see how quickly it was cut and stitched.

It's crazy.

Well, and the thing is that she probably did it herself.

She was a great seamstress.

She pretty much made all of the clothes for her kids.

The Lincoln boys were notorious for being wild and not really having a lot of rules.

So their clothes were always getting

torn and ripped, and she would fix them.

And people always commented how great the little boys looked, even though they were kind of wild and like to get into things.

By the way, we're, so you know we're taking the money raise for the gettysburg address and we're turning it back over uh to you guys i think you're getting every dollar of well thank you very much because we really um the the this stuff needs to be kept together uh and they're having a hard time they have the hat and bloodstained gloves that lincoln was wearing um at the night he was killed and uh it this first time that they've been in in public hands they sat in somebody's house or somebody's office in their own private collection and unseen for so long, and they must remain in public view, in my opinion.

And they've got a lot of money to raise, and we would love to help them.

If you would like to help,

fiveforlincol.com.

Just give $5, do $5 a month and help pay for this hat so it can be seen in public for

generations to come.

We have Lori Burns real quick.

Lori just won to come to our museum in February.

Lori?

Yes.

Good morning, Glenn.

How are you?

Can you make it?

Absolutely.

We are honored.

That's a miracle.

That's great.

Where are you from, Lori?

From McCallan, Texas.

Oh, you're from Texas?

Okay.

All right.

Good.

Great.

Lori, thank you so much.

Hang on the phone.

We're going to get some information, and we can't wait to meet you.

That's true for us.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

All right.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Thank all of our listeners for everything that they do.

We really appreciate it.

You got it.

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You know the poem Mary Had a Little Lamb?

Please is White as Snow?

You know who wrote that?

Eminem?

No.

No.

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Glenn, back.

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