'Social Justice Postmodernism Madness'? - 9/20/18

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You know,

I'm torn.

Some days I want to live.

Some days I don't.

And you know, the thought is, you know, it's really kind of nice.

The sun's out.

It's beautiful.

But then I have to look at the people that i live around

has everybody gone crazy

democrats uh during the kavanaugh hearings at least are being transparent here

um

let's look at what's happening i'm amazed how the left is giving the entire country a direct insider look on how they go about business.

Look at at the confirmation charade here.

It has everything.

It has mic check, mic check to shout down your opponents, political grandstanding to gain favor for future elections.

I mean, if you want to talk about virtue signaling, I am smart.

Then shady plots involving big money donors that are just advancing progressive agendas,

false accusations that we we, at least, at least accusations that there's no way to prove them.

This is a look at social justice, period.

This is the way America is going to work.

If you fall in line with the left and you think, you know what, we got some real hope and change coming, this is it.

This is what your life is going to be like on all levels.

It's open for everyone to see.

They don't really even appear to, give a crap about hiding it anymore.

Let's take the allegation

from

Dr.

Ford.

Grassley has given Ford until tomorrow to commit to a testimony that will be conducted in the next 72 hours.

He wants it complete by Monday so they can move on with a committee vote.

But Ford and her lawyer are now delaying.

They want the FBI to do an investigation.

Okay, well, that's not the way the law works.

And by the way, maybe that's what should have happened in the first place.

Maybe when you had this accusation, you should have gone to the Maryland police before you wrote a letter to the good senator.

The good senator, when she got the letter, she should have said, Maryland State Police, you should look into this.

It's a state crime, not a federal crime.

By the way, it's a state crime that appears to have a statute of limitations of one year.

But that's the way it works.

You don't come out and make this public accusation,

lay out all of these charges, have zero evidence, and then say, oh, by the way, I'm going to let that smear hang out here.

I'm not going to answer a single question.

until the FBI do their job, which, by the way, this is not the FBI's job.

It's a delay tactic.

so why

of course we know why democrats want this delayed as close to the november midterms as possible they study history just like everyone else when this nearly identical scenario happened with clarence thomas and anita hill back in 1991 it triggered what is now known as the year of the woman in the 1992 elections Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, was a product of that surge.

Let me say that one again.

Feinstein, you know, the woman who got the letter, whose peers office leaked the letter?

She got into office because of Anita Hill.

The Ford accusation reveals a lot more than just that.

Back in August, a large group of left-leaning groups co-signed a letter to both Senator Feinstein and Grassley demanding Kavanaugh's records.

It was basically the same narrative that Corey Booker and Kamala Harris were using during the opening day of the confirmation hearing.

Okay, this group demanded they had organized to stop Kavanaugh.

One of the groups that co-signed this letter was called the Project on Government Oversight, or POGO.

Who's the vice chairperson of POGO?

That's a woman named Deborah Katz.

Yes,

the same Deborah Katz.

She's now the lawyer for Kavanaugh's accuser.

Don't worry, this gets even more ridiculous.

Pogo,

directly funded by, guess who?

Spooky dude, George Soros, the

Open Society Foundation.

Soros has his fingerprints all over this.

In June, the Daily Caller reported that a group called Demand Justice Justice had launched an effort to try to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation.

They allocated $5 million to the project.

Want to take a guess where they get their money?

Yeah.

Well, no, uh-uh, not Soros.

They get it from the 1630 Fund.

The 1630 Fund gets their money directly from George Soros and the Open Society Center.

So that's, you know, it's,

what was that money laundering play?

Oh, yeah, Tites Foundation.

They're used to this kind of stuff.

Recently, they've given over $2 million

from the George Soros fund.

We're seeing play by play,

almost in slow motion.

Everyone can see it, a live hit job.

For anybody who thought that Netflix House of Cards was fiction, was over the top, was ridiculous, I urge you to go back and watch it again.

And tell me, that doesn't look like Little House on the Prairie compared to what's happening in real life today.

It's Thursday, September 20th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

So, Stu.

I want to give you the choice of where we begin today.

I've got more on Kavanaugh and some really good stuff on, you know understanding what's really happening.

But I also have

a

woman who works at the main lobster pound

who is

now offering to sedate the lobsters with marijuana before they're boiled.

So she she wants to get the lobsters baked before they're boiled.

Because surely it would become an enjoyable experience to be boiled alive after you smoke a little pot.

At that point, it's totally fine.

Thank you.

What does pot do?

It makes you paranoid.

So now the poor lobsters are like, I know they're coming for me.

I know they're coming.

I got news for you.

Lobsters should be.

They're coming.

This is something lobsters need to develop a lot better.

More paranoia.

They are coming for you.

They're going to boil you in water.

Ron

scamper away.

Do you remember that political cartoon?

It's one of my favorite.

I wish I could get it.

I wish I could get the original and blow it up.

I don't even remember which

opinion person did it, but there was this

big picture of a lobster tank, you know, a cartoon of a lobster tank.

And one guy said, one lobster says, I'm telling you, they're taking us out of the tank.

They're boiling us and they're eating us.

And the other lobster says, you got to stop watching Glenn Beck.

That's an all-time classic.

I love that.

So anyway, so you decide, should we go to Kavanaugh or should I give you the story of the lobster?

The lobster.

Oh, I think, I mean, I think we got to go

to lobster.

You got to go lobster.

Yeah.

Because I want to stop on Kavanaugh too that's driving me crazy.

We've got to do that.

But the lobster is

is too big.

Yeah, we also have

the director of the new movie, Gosnell.

I've seen it.

I saw the movie a couple of weeks ago.

I have to tell you, this story needs to be heard.

I mean, I thought I knew that story.

Oh my gosh, is that an amazing story?

And I have news also on that from NPR, which is very, very interesting.

Okay, so there's cage-free chickens, cage-free eggs, range-free chickens, grass-fed cows, meat eaters

who

are doing everything they can to

lessen the guilt about eating a chicken.

Well, I want to eat this chicken, but

how many square feet did it grow up in?

Yes, I agree.

I mean, I don't eat veal for that.

I don't want my cows tortured so they're a little more tender.

I don't know.

Not quite tender enough could you just keep that cow in a box from the day it was born for me I mean I don't want to be cruel but

okay so here is in in Southwest Harbor Maine Charlotte Gill

that's an interesting name for a woman who runs a fish store Charlotte Gill

runs Charlotte's legendary lobster pound

And

she is now getting the lobsters high before boiling them alive.

She said, I feel bad when lobsters come here and there's no exit strategy.

Okay, first of all, hang on just a second.

Charlotte, the lobsters aren't coming there.

They've been captured.

It's not like a lobster walks in the door, ding, ding,

the doorbell goes off.

They walk in.

Oh, we've got customers.

No, they're lobsters.

They've come in for something else.

It's like, what is that?

It's like the late 1700s.

There's a lot of African tourists that are coming to our land.

Have you noticed that lately?

These tour ships are showing up.

I'm like, no, that's not why, that's not what those are.

No, sorry.

I feel bad when lobsters come here.

She owns this place.

I feel bad when lobsters come here and there is no exit strategy.

I got news for you.

There is an exit strategy.

You boil them and we eat them.

That's the exit strategy.

Can I tell you something?

I'll bet you she's inherited.

i bet you this was her father's

or her family's thing you think and she's she and she's grown up her whole life you know being torn i mean look i you know this is uh you've been saying the veal thing ever since i've known you that you don't eat it for that reason and as uh america's only conservative vegetarian uh i would say that uh most of the time i you know whatever you know people like to goad me into these conversations about this stuff because it's fun but

the lobster thing's insane guys we're throwing them alive into boiling water it's completely nuts i there are a million what are you gonna do shoot them yes

anything like first of all i would argue of course the answer to that would be no but still if you're going to kill them Putting them into boiling water is completely nuts.

Do we have some vendetta against these things?

Like, we do, did they, did, did, are they responsible for like the Adam and Eve thing and i'm not aware of it were they in no here's the thing come on you know this if they weren't living under cover of water

we'd all be exterminating them we'd be terrified they were crawling yeah they if they were crawling out from underneath your refrigerator we'd not be eating them we'd be exterminated which is another weird thing if it's oh no you had a freaking red bug walking through your house like that you're not bringing you're not gonna oh let's put it in the oven or let's boil it and eat it that would be weird right i never my my daughter, Mary, when she was very young, I went on vacation up like, you know, Nantucket or Cape Cod or someplace like that.

And, and I, we went and we bought lobsters and I put them down on the floor and let them crawl.

And Mary freaked out.

She was like, you're not going to make me eat bugs.

I won't eat bugs.

I won't eat bugs.

That's really what they are, man.

How hungry were you to go, I don't know, that big thing that just crawled out of the water.

Would you say we eat that?

Yeah, I know.

And I think that's it.

I think because they're so ugly and creepy, we're like, sure, we can go all Hannibal Lecter on them.

Let's just boil them.

Like,

there's every, we hear this, you know, the, oh, I don't want to, uh, we're going to hunt with,

you know, so we don't want to be cruel.

And you put all these things in place.

And like lobsters, we're like, ah, just rip them out.

You know what?

Let's put them all in a cage and let's look at nice and close to the little tank and we'll meet them all before we throw them in the boiling water.

We as a society despise those things.

Let me ask you this, though, Stu.

Seriously.

Okay, let's just say you're...

I don't know what your plan is.

We electrocute them.

What is your plan?

My plan would be not to eat them at all, as I think you're aware.

But still, if you're going to do it, it needs to be something else other than boiling them.

We don't boil anything else.

We'd be like, hey, cows, here's a giant vat of water.

Get in.

And then, oh, they're nice and boiled.

Let's put them in stew.

We don't handle anything else like that.

I don't understand why they're like, you could hear them making all the noises and they're trying to climb out and we're like oh this is okay

it's a weird thing as a society that we do there's a few of them you've pointed out the veal thing the faux gras is faux gras is another thing i love faux gras will not eat it that is just horrible there's a few of them if anybody doesn't know how they make faux gras they tie they they force feed a goose and then they tie their neck closed and so their liver becomes diseased.

So they're they're what I mean, it's just they force feed them, right?

They force feed them.

It's and again,

who said, you know, what would make this goose live a little better is if we jam all this food and then we put a rope around its neck, let it live, and it'll become diseased.

Eck.

Yeah, that is uh, it's like it's as if

French as if we decided that they were like responsible for the Nazi movement and were just like extracting revenge over over multiple decades.

It might have been the Nazis.

It might have been the Nazis.

There is Moose.

That's right.

Maybe.

It might have been one of the lesser-known Nazi doctors that were like, how can I make a disease liver into something yummy?

That does sound like a Nazi experiment.

It really does.

It really does.

All right.

Chef Mengele instead of Dr.

Yep.

Back with more here in a second because you have to hear how she gets them high.

Or we'll move on to the Brad Kavanaugh story in a second.

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All right, Stu.

Mr.

Beck.

We could go.

We could go to Brett Kavanaugh.

Actually, I could fit it.

No, we can't.

We can't can't go to Brett Kavanaugh because you have not explained about the pot smoking.

Well, I was going to say, I could continue the lobster story.

Yes.

Or

I could give you the story that

has in it the statement from

the chief of police

putting that dead whale

quote, putting that dead whale in the dumpster.

Yes, it was a mistake.

Okay, you sold me.

I want to hear about the dead whale and the dumpster.

Okay, ready?

When workers misjudge the size of a dead whale they were trying to put into a dumpster, the 4,000-pound carcass fell to the ground.

They realized it was too big for the dumpster, and video shows it flopping onto the concrete in the parking lot in Rye, New Hampshire.

It was all caught on camera.

Wow, it was just terrible, says a resident.

The whale washed ashore.

Experts say they likely died after getting tangled in fishing lines.

They added insult to injury when they tried to move it.

They put it into a dumpster, and you have to see the picture.

It's this gigantic whale.

And they're trying to jam it into this dumpster.

It clearly doesn't.

nobody would think that's going to fit.

The chief of police, Kevin Walsh, said, Yeah, that was,

quoting, yeah, that was a mistake.

It shouldn't have happened.

I take full responsibility.

We shouldn't have tried to put that dead whale in a dumpster.

It was a mistake.

We all have our days.

I mean,

it happens.

I swear to you, I thought it would fit.

I just, we went back in the back of the supermarket and what are you going to do with a dead whale?

Okay.

So,

Stu, I just tweeted the lobster, the, not sorry, not the lobster story, the whale story.

And have you seen the video?

Go to my

Twitter account and Glenbeck.

Mm-hmm.

And just look at the whale story.

Now, here's the thing.

They've taken a whale.

Now, the sheriff said it was a mistake.

Sorry, we tried to put this whale in a dumpster, and

you know, that was a mistake.

And the reason why he's saying this is because people were videotaping them, taking this big bulldozer and picking up this whale off the beach and driving it to, like, you know, behind the grocery store and just dumping it into

the dumpster.

Now, it's clear the whale has rigomortis because it's flat as a board and does not move.

Right?

Okay.

Have you seen it yet?

Well, let's see.

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This isn't Apple.

It's not Apple's fault.

It's the website.

It's just playing the commercial over and over again.

Oh, okay.

So it's going to take me a minute, but go ahead.

Because they are taking the,

I can see the picture of it, and it doesn't look like it would have made any sense to attempt this.

Right?

It's bigger than the bulldozer's loader.

Yes.

All right.

It's barely in that.

It looks like a mini dealership recommended one of their cars to Michael Moore is what it looks like.

No,

this car's not for you, Michael.

It's not going to fit.

You're not going to fit.

It's not going to fit.

As they're squeezing him in,

all of the salespeople are just pushing his fat into the car.

It's not going to fit, guys.

It's not going to fit.

This is flapping out the back windows.

It's like pushed up against the windshield.

It looks good on you.

It looks good on you.

Okay, so

it won't even fit into the loader.

And then they drive up to

the dumpster and they just let the loader go.

Plop.

And the thing, the poor thing, I mean, it's horrible.

It's really horrible.

I mean, we have to remember it is dead,

but it's horrible.

It just kind of

lies across the dumpster for a second and then falls down.

Yeah.

Because Because there's no way it's going to fit.

It's not even remotely close.

Right?

Okay, so this is how, this is how

sheep-like we are.

How did that happen?

Well,

somebody said, hey,

there's a baby whale that's died.

It's not a baby whale.

This is just a small whale.

Baby whale that's died, washed up on shore.

So the, I don't know, the beach pickup police or whatever they are, they call and say, what do we do?

We got a baby whale.

What do we do with it?

And the, the sheriff said, oh, it's a baby whale, just throw it in the dumpster.

That's not a baby.

You should, there's more to that conversation.

The guy's like, I he just said the baby whale is going to dumpster.

Nobody said,

I don't think it'll fit in the dumpster.

It's a pretty big baby.

And I don't know, I mean, I am not a waste management engineer.

However, I would,

you know, you got to think past step one here.

Like, it's in the dumpster.

Can a, I mean, maybe it can, but can one like garbage, garbage truck that picks up those dumpsters, can they lift a 4,000-pound whale?

You've never, excuse me, you've never thrown a little fish out into the garbage?

Well, no, but I would assume this is not, this is not a little fish.

It's a baby whale.

It is a baby whale.

All baby whales should fit into a dumpster, right?

You know, that's the other thing I thought of.

First of all, I mean, who owns the dumpster?

Is it like the grocery store?

It's like, oh, crap, who put the whale in the dumpster?

Now we don't have any room.

What are we going to do now?

Yeah.

I hate it when people put whales in dumpsters.

Have you ever.

Like, if you think of, think of right now in your head, Glenn.

And if you're listening to the show, think of this number in your head.

How wide is a dumpster a normal dumpster how wide is it from left to right as you're facing it

10 feet okay i mean i'm gonna i was thinking about six or seven seven maybe seven yeah the whale was four feet the whale is 27 feet

Who would look at that and think?

The only thing I could think of is

all baby whales in the dumpsters.

The only thing I can think of is I think they may have thought when they placed it on top, it would just fold itself into

the

dumpster because it's dead and maybe it was so.

Okay, but okay, I thought of that too, but look at it in the

dumpster.

I mean, the

shovel thing.

What do you call it?

The bulldozer.

Such a man.

The bulldozer's

loader or whatever that thing, you know, the big shovel thing in the front.

Right.

If you look at it, it's not bending.

No, it doesn't fit into that either and it's not bending.

So who was like

when we put it in the dumpster?

Sheriff said, baby whale in the dumpster.

There's no brain power here at all.

I would tend to agree with this analysis,

but I feel like we're going to have very few of these situations going forward.

I feel like they've now proven this is not the most reliable way to dispose.

I mean, it was only a few years ago they tried to blow one up.

Remember when they blew one up on the beach?

Remember that one?

They just like filled it with TNT and just made it explode?

Okay, to the baby whale?

Because those are the dumpsters.

Big whales?

Share says

blow it up.

Like, that's going to help.

Think of that.

What are you going to do to dispose of this?

Put a bunch of dynamite in his mouth he's gonna just go to scatter whale everywhere we are a weird it just disappears i see it in i watched in uh six million dollar man once he blew stuff up and there wasn't anything left

we are too stupid to run a country we really we should we should just give up we really should we really should you know what america put your tools down i think we're done as a country just just walk away i don't know if you're working working the bandsaw, you probably shouldn't be working that.

Just put the tools down, turn off the machine, let's go home.

This is why I argue for the Matrix, and I've been doing it for a long time.

If we can just be fuel for some alien culture, and then we just lay down in like a pool of some sort of jelly.

Everyone's like, oh, we need a red pill.

Okay,

you had the author or the director of that documentary, Red Pill, right?

Red Pill, yeah.

On Cassie J

the other day.

And I was thinking, I kind of would kind of want to go blue pill.

I think I want to still bluepill and get into the gel.

And then, like, in my mind, I'd think things were kind of normal.

And, you know, except I don't like the Matrix because they made it real enough to where, you know,

if I find out that we're in a Matrix and I'm actually in a pod in gel and I still am fat

in my matrix life.

And in my matrix life, I can only eat the crap like kale, and I still get fat, and I still have to exercise.

I'm telling you, I am taking the entire Matrix down because that pisses me off.

It's a fair point.

Well, they said that.

Okay, and they said that in that documentary, The Matrix, in which they discuss they tried to make it perfect for humans and make everybody happy, but then we were such whiners.

We're so addicted to outrage, we couldn't handle the perfect life they designed for us.

I can handle it.

I can handle it.

I can handle it too.

I am not on that bandwagon.

I am not on that bandwagon.

I will tell you, Pill.

I will tell you, I met somebody here in Southern California yesterday and said, so what's Texas like?

And I said,

you know, California?

Yes.

Not like that.

No.

It's not like that.

And I said, oh, it's beautiful.

I said, in a different way.

You know, California has mountains, and we don't.

You have trees, and well, we don't.

You know, you have beautiful green grassland.

We don't, we don't.

But we have sky.

The sky,

actually, I'm down to, I'm down to the sky.

Sky is beautiful in Texas.

It's beautiful.

And I said, some of the most beautiful sunrises and sunsets.

I said, it's like Arizona in a way, where there's just beautiful, these cloud formations and they're huge and blah, blah, blah.

And she said,

man, clouds.

You know, we don't even get clouds here.

Sometimes I just look up in the sky and there's not a cloud and I'm like, can can we at least get a cloud?

And I wanted to say, shut up.

Shut

up.

What did you need to say?

We don't even get clouds.

It's always 75 degrees and perfectly blue.

Oh, I am so tired of it.

Shut up.

It is frustrating.

And in Texas, we don't have everything that California has, starting with a 13% state income tax.

That's right.

There's your cloudy day

every April 15th.

Okay.

When we come back,

either Kavanaugh,

either Kavanaugh

or the woman who's getting the lobsters high

before she puts them into a tank, because there is some controversy surrounding that act of mercy when we come back.

It's just so beautiful here all the time.

And I mean, the weather is perfect and the sky is perfectly blue.

Oh, the trees are huge.

Have you seen the big sequoias?

Oh, it's so pretty.

And we have the ocean here.

We can go to the ocean anytime we like.

It's just, oh.

But sometimes it just doesn't...

get rainy and gray.

Oh.

Poor me.

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Okay,

Stu,

I could go back to the getting the lobsters high.

We could go to Brett Kavanaugh,

or

I could give you the latest excuse from the federal government on why the Sunspot Observatory has been closed.

This one is fascinating.

All right.

One quick question on the pot, and then we can leave it.

And this has been asked by many people: Do you get high when you eat it?

No,

no, this is according to the owner of

lobsters in pot or whatever they're calling it.

Okay.

They're saying, oh, there's absolutely no way.

Now, they infuse the water tank that they're in by using a

by using a mattress pump,

they infuse the water with pot smoke.

A mattress pump?

Like what for a water?

Yeah, you don't even make water beds anymore?

Is that a mattress?

An air mattress.

No, no, no.

An air mattress pump.

Okay, so you got the air mattress.

Now, I don't know how you get the smoke other than you're like, okay, man, I'm on an eight-hour shift.

I gotta keep blowing smoke into this pump.

But they blow the smoke into the pump.

The pump then takes that smoke and just

puts it at the bottom of the tank.

So it's a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I don't think that's getting anybody high.

Okay.

Okay,

I think you have to be high to believe that that's helping the lobsters.

That was the only pragmatic question our audience had about that story.

So now that we know that, I think we can move on.

All right.

Okay.

So the story of the Sunspot Solar Observatory is bizarre.

It was shut down by FBI agents.

A Blackhawk helicopter came, was involved.

Now, that's not,

just so the

Democratic senators know, the FBI does not have Blackhawk helicopters fully armed.

Okay, that's not part of the FBI.

So, somehow or another, the FBI has found something at this

Sunspot Observatory that it was so important that they had to rush everyone out for their own safety.

Plus, evacuate the entire mountain for their own safety.

People have not been allowed back into their homes for their own safety, and they don't know when the observatory is going to be opened again

for their own safety.

Got it?

Sounds pretty dramatic.

Sounds pretty big.

Right.

I don't believe the alien thing.

I don't believe the sunspot thing.

I do believe the Chinese or the Russians or somebody was using this as a backbone.

And one of my Silicon Valley friends said

it's probably they probably got information from the observatory and then they were on low frequency, low power transmitter of some sort, taking that tower and beaming it to maybe a house on the mountain because it would be untraceable.

And then

they would need the houses evacuated so they could search for whatever receiver they could find.

Correct, correct.

And that explains the Blackhawk.

That explains the guys on the tower and everything else.

Yeah.

And I don't say that you wouldn't say that you necessarily believe that, but that's just your best theory at the moment.

Yeah, that's the best theory I've heard.

This is the worst one.

According to sources now with the government,

a federal search warrant reveals that Sunspot Solar Observatory was shut down as FBI agents were conducting computer forensic searches for child porn.

They're now telling us that there was a janitor that was downloading child porn on his laptop

and

they were going to try to to arrest him.

Now, they haven't arrested him yet, but that's what that was all about: just a janitor downloading child porn, and they still don't know when they're gonna let the neighborhood back into their houses.

Tell me, that makes sense.

Glenn Back is coming live to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people standing in the way.

He might not be able to save the country, but at least we can all go down laughing.

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glenn back

stu

i just heard some amazing audio and it came out uh i think last night um about what's his name in florida he was part of the uh the march for life uh yeah cameron casky

okay he's one of the guys that was one of the big movers and shakers in uh the march for life you know the the kids of of of parkland he said yesterday he he really regrets what he said to Marco Rubio.

And, you know, he was part of the group that was like, Marco Rubio, you know, you are taking money from the NRA and you just want kids to die.

I want you to listen

to what I think is one of the bravest people I have heard,

especially considering his age.

Here's a high school kid who is now in Parkland.

If you're part of this, you see how the media has torn apart anybody who disagrees.

You've seen how people have torn the

conservative kids, how they've just been dismantled.

And you're willing to say this?

Listen to this interview.

This summer, when March Farlives went on the summer tour that we embarked on, I met that person in Texas who's got that semi-automatic weapon because that's how they elect to protect their family.

I met the 50-some-odd percent of women who are pro-life, even though I thought that it was preposterous that a woman could be pro-life and not pro-choice at the time.

I learned that a lot of our issues politically come from a lack of understanding of the perspectives.

And

also just the

fact that so often young conservatives and young liberal

will go into debate, like I said earlier, trying to beat the other one as opposed to come to an agreement.

And, you know, that's natural.

It's important for things to be a bit competitive because I think competition is very important for everything.

But it comes to a point where all we're doing right now is drag each other apart.

I mean, the people who were okay with Trump will not forgive him for anything, and the people who didn't like Trump will pretend that every single thing he does is pure, utter evil.

And it's a direction we need to head away from.

So I'm working on some efforts to encourage bipartisanship or at least discussion that

is productive and help a lot of people avoid the mistakes that I make.

Is this kid unbelievable?

This is unbelievable.

What is he saying?

He's saying absolutely everything

that so many people are fighting against.

He is making the message of my book.

Look what he did.

He was part of an angry,

I think almost a mob, an angry mob of kids that were

at least portrayed on television as all David Hogg.

David Hogg's not listening to anybody.

He is full of certitude.

He's right.

You're wrong.

No ifs, ands, or buts.

This kid was part of that.

And then what did he say?

When I was in Texas, I met that person that uses an AR to protect their family.

Well, now, how did he meet that person?

Do you think he met that person because they were holding up a sign that said, you kids are idiots,

was holding up a sign that said, you have to be stopped, was screaming names at them,

was tweeting horrible things about these kids?

I highly doubt it.

He met a woman who was pro-life.

He said, at the time, I couldn't believe a woman would be pro-life.

He said, I met her and I talked to her.

What does that mean?

That means there were reasonable conservatives,

and I think we all try to be, reasonable conservatives that were calm enough, rational enough to find the one, not to go to David Hogg, but to find the one in the group that was honestly listening.

And they changed his heart.

That's exactly the point of the book, Addicted to Outrage.

And it's exactly the point I've been saying.

There are people, they are not necessarily the David Hoggs.

They're not necessarily the ones you see on TV all the time.

But there are people who are truly sick of this.

They know this doesn't work.

They don't want to do it anymore, but they can't find anybody reasonable to talk to.

I congratulate this guy.

You are my hero of the week, dude.

Congratulations.

And if there is anything we can do to help you meet with other people of different perspective, I'm all in.

You are my hero of the week, dude.

And just like that, he didn't have a prompt date.

It's Thursday, September 20th.

Pass of the Glenbeck program.

This is not the endorsement you want when you're in high school.

No, it's really not.

I'm Glenn Beck's hero of the week.

Look at my t-shirt.

It says so.

You're never going to date again.

All right.

I want to talk to you about something serious here.

And

it's a really strange thing.

I am fascinated by this story and repulsed by this story at the same time, but the parts of the story that really fascinate me are the parts how

you don't know this story.

You even conservatives think they know this story.

They have absolutely no idea.

I watched this movie a couple of weeks ago, The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer, and it blew me away.

It doesn't even have to, it is, but it doesn't even have to be a good movie.

The story, the facts of this story are so incomprehensible that it has happened recently

and no one found this interesting to cover.

It is one of the craziest stories you've ever seen and they bring it to life in a new movie that had to be impossible to make.

Gosnell, The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer.

If you don't remember who Dr.

Gosnell is,

let us remind you, the director, Nick Serci,

Cersei is on with us now.

Hi, Nick.

How are you?

Hey, Glenn, I'm great.

How are you?

I was hoping that I was going to be hero of the week, but I guess also.

Well,

you can be unpopular with

all the girls just because you made this movie.

Nick,

I have to tell you, I thought I knew this story.

I mean, we covered it.

I thought I knew this story, but until I saw your movie, I didn't connect

visually with what that place was like.

And I also didn't know that this was a local,

they were looking for doctor shoppers.

They stumbled into this guy.

Yeah, I mean,

that's one of the fascinating aspects of the story is that they went after him because he was writing prescriptions for opioids and selling them.

And it was a drug case, basically.

And so, when they raided the clinic, it's when the lead detective,

James Woods, who we call Woody in the film, is

he's just appalled by what he sees in the clinic, and he just goes back to the DA's office and says, I don't know what's going on in there, but it can't be legal.

So, it's it stumbled upon

because of looking for the drugs.

So, Nick, was it

I mean, look, I understand dramatic storytelling and everything else.

Was the clinic really in that kind of shape?

Absolutely.

I mean, it's depicted as well as we could in the film, but when you see the real photographs and the real footage that

James Woods took when he went into that clinic,

it's incredible.

I mean, there are, you know, garbage bags sitting lining the hallways because he says, you know, that he had a dispute with his medical waste company, and the bags contained fetuses.

I mean, they were just sitting in the hallway.

Some of them were stuck in the freezer.

Some of them were stuck in milk cartons with name tags on them.

And the place was filthy.

It was cats running around and rats.

And I mean, it really was,

you know, I don't think we could have made it look as bad as it really was.

So, I mean,

I was really struck by how filthy everything was.

I mean, filthy it was.

And you could almost smell it through the screen.

When you've got, you know, rotting body parts in the hallway and cats all over the place, I don't know how

did anybody, anybody

think I shouldn't report this place

yeah well I wanted to shoot the film in smell-o-vision but I got shut down on that yeah

you you you did it with just the imagination

but you know I think that what happened and what part of the story is that this clinic was not inspected from night I guess 1993 until 2010.

There were no inspections done by the Board of Health at this clinic because of the political climate.

Now, the governor, Tom Ridge, back then, who

he did not want to appear to be anti-reproductive rights,

quote unquote, or anti-woman.

And so he told them to stand down.

That's my understanding.

He told them to stand down and don't inspect these clinics.

I have to tell you, if you,

I mean,

a simple inspection of that clinic would have shut it down years before.

Yeah, I have to tell you, whether he was doing abortions or not, which he clearly was, and I'm just trying to make a point here, any clinic, any clinic

for male, female, for dogs, any clinic that was in that kind of shape,

it is an insult to say

you're just against reproductive rights.

You're anti-women for inspecting or closing that place down or testifying against it.

Are you kidding me?

I mean, the infection, the disease, and the, let alone not just the kids that were killed, but also the patients that died.

Yeah, and the reason that happened is exactly what you were talking about before, about not being able to talk honestly about these issues because we demonize each other.

I mean, that's sort of part of the story is that abortion is so politically charged that you can't even have a rational discussion about it.

And even when we agree on things, the other side is afraid to agree with you about the slightest little thing because they think they might be helping the pro-life movement.

Right.

They think they might be betraying their own cause if they even concede for a moment that Gosnell was a monster.

So

to give some perspective here on how much of a monster he was,

we'll get into that here in a second.

Let me just ask you this.

Explain how he had,

quote, nurses performing things that they shouldn't ever, even if they were nurses, they should not be doing,

and how

one woman died

because he wasn't even there during the procedure.

Somebody he had trained for a few hours did it.

Yes.

Well, part of the way Gosnell operated was that he did not have actual trained registered nurses working at his clinic.

And I think probably because

if he had, they would have challenged him.

And so he basically surrounded himself with,

you know, yes men and

sort of stooges that he could make do whatever he wanted them to do.

And so he basically took, in many cases, high school girls and trained them to give the anesthesia and trained them to do some of the procedures so that he wouldn't have to be there even when some of the abortions were being done

and also so that he wouldn't have to answer to anybody.

So you have these, in many cases, I thought the nurses were as much a victim as anybody else because they were kind of just doing what they were told to do.

And since they'd never been trained medically, they just thought this was normal.

They thought this was the way things were done.

It is

as well.

Anybody who says, oh, this is going to go back to backroom, back alley abortions.

Yeah,

that's what this guy was running.

And anybody, even if you are, even if you're somebody who says, oh, I'm absolutely pro-choice,

the state refusing to do any kind of inspections on abortion clinics is allowing back alley abortions to happen right now for the, not for the humanity to help these poor little girls, but strictly for money.

This guy was sick beyond your imagination.

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Welcome to the program.

We're talking to Nick Cercees, the director of Gosnell, the trial of America's biggest serial killer.

It comes out on October 12th, and you really need to see it.

You need to, this is going to be one of those movies that is, they're going to do everything they can to keep this from going mainstream.

You need to, you know, organize yourselves into groups and churches and whatever.

Anybody who will go see this movie with you, it is, it's, it's not shocking.

It's not, it's not going for shock value.

It's shocking how cold it is and how no one was willing to tell the story and to cover it.

You'll be shocked, even if you followed the story, you're going to be shocked at the story because I can guarantee you you only know a fraction of it.

Nick, can you tell me the detectives in the movie,

they're heroes to me.

They didn't have an agenda.

I don't even think they knew anything really about abortion or anything else, you know, other than what the general public does.

At least that's the way it came off in the film.

And

they were saying things at the beginning like, this can't be legal.

Is this normal?

Is this the way it is?

And they honestly thought this guy was a monster and couldn't get anyone to help.

Yeah, I mean, that's one of the main parts of the movie that I found so fascinating.

I mean, when I read the script, there was just all this information in there about the procedure of abortion, about the laws surrounding it, you know, what constituted a legal abortion abortion and what made it illegal.

All that information in there, I was just like, wow, I didn't know this.

I didn't know any of this stuff.

And I think that's sort of the way the story unfolds in the movie is through the detectives, is they're carrying that ball in that

detective woods, like discovering all this stuff and goes into this abortion clinic and just goes, wow, this can't be what they're all like, is it?

I mean, this can't be normal.

So is that an accurate portrayal?

Is it an accurate portrayal of them?

Or are they more of a vehicle in the movie?

No, it's an accurate portrayal.

I mean, you know, James Woods was,

you know, he was interviewed extensively while the script was being done.

He visited the set.

You know, it's definitely, as accurately as we can tell it, it was his reaction to what he saw when he went in that clinic.

Okay.

Making making this film,

and by the way, Nick plays a role.

You've seen his face before, he's been in a million movies, including a couple of Academy Award-winning movies.

But Nick made this film, and now trying to promote this film is even difficult.

The story

behind NPR

and trying to get them just to say the truth is phenomenal.

We go there next.

Nick Searcey, he is the director of Gosnell.

I want to give you some idea of who Nick is as well.

Beside

the director, you've seen him.

He's one of those faces that you see, and you're like, oh my gosh, I've seen him a million times.

He was in Money Ball, The Last Song, The Ugly Truth, Dead Girl, Runaway, Castaway, Head of State, Fried Green Tomatoes,

Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri, which is great.

The Shape of Water.

he's also

recurring and

a star in

Justified

in 112263, which is also great.

Seven Days American Gothic, HBO, From Earth to the Moon, The Mentalist, Lie to Me, Without a Trace, West Wing, CSI, NCIS.

And now that he's the director of Gosnell and stars in the movie Gosnell, I believe he'll be playing Willie Lohman in Death of a Salesman at the Waffle House

just outside of Atlanta.

Are you going to be able to get another job after this, Nick?

Well, I'm working right now, Glenn.

I'm up in Toronto right now doing a mini-series.

You know, I've got a couple of things already lined up.

It doesn't seem to be hurting me so far.

I mean, I think that they're trying to ignore Gosnell, the movie, and pretend that it doesn't exist right now.

Maybe if they figure out that it's actually out there,

then it might hurt me.

But

so far, so good.

There's a story out today.

One of the executive producers for the movie, Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer, Gosnell, reached out to NPR to purchase a sponsorship for an interview show, Fresh Air.

He was told he couldn't use the term abortionist to describe Gosnell in the ad.

The emails obtained

say,

let's see, support for this NPR program comes from the film Gosnell, the trial of America's biggest serial killer.

The film is a true story of an abortionist, Kermit Gosnell, the story mainstream media tried to cover up because it reveals the truth about abortion.

They said they couldn't use the word abortionist, but they could use the word doctor.

That

he was,

they went back and said okay can we use abortion doctor no we can't do that uh they're still trying to bury this story

yeah they're afraid of it and that's that's the thing it's like the point was that he was not a podiatrist or you know

a gastroenterologist he was he did abortions and and right that's what he called himself you know gosnell called himself an abortion doctor, but they're so afraid that

by telling

this story, that it's going to hurt the pro-choice side and help the pro-life side, that they just

are afraid to even say the word.

Can I tell you something?

You know what hurts it?

What hurts it is this cover-up, because when people try to cover up something this grotesque, you automatically go, geez, what else are they not telling me?

If they would lead, you know, like the NRA,

most time, most times leads the way.

They were the ones that said, we have to have

a way to run your criminal history before you buy a gun.

It was their bill and their push that put it out there.

It helps their credibility.

For them to hide something, I don't think Planned Parenthood places are like this, and I think those places are monstrous, but it's not like Gosnell.

Yeah, you would think there'd be some common ground here.

You would think that there would be a chance to go, okay, well, we can all agree on this.

We can all agree that not inspecting abortion clinics endangers women, it causes the loss of life, and we need to be as diligent about inspecting abortion clinics as we are about every other kind of clinic.

I mean, you would think, and that's one of the things that's been most shocking to me since we made the film, is how resistant everybody is to just having having a conversation about the truth of what happened in this situation.

They're so afraid of it that they don't even want to talk about it and they still want to pretend that it's not there.

Was he in real life?

You've seen the videotapes.

You know,

it was bizarre when they first come in and they come into his house, and he seems,

I don't know, just casual about everything.

Almost mentally handicapped,

you know, calm.

Just, I don't know what, just completely detached.

Was that what he was really like?

Yeah, I mean, he had this sort of air of superiority about him.

And he still to this day thinks that he did nothing wrong and that he's going to be exonerated.

So he really, when they came into his house, he had no fear.

I mean, he was not afraid that they were going to discover something bad about him because

he didn't think that he'd done anything wrong,

except for the money.

He was trying to hide the money wherever he could because most of his, especially his late-term abortions that he did on the weekends, that was where he took only cash.

And

there were big piles of cash.

stuffed all around the house and hidden out at his beach house.

I think he was concerned more about hiding the cash than anything else.

And he didn't seem to live large.

I mean, you know, he didn't hire a housekeeper

and his clinic was an absolute dump.

I mean, yeah, no, he didn't clean up after himself very well, that's for sure.

So

he did have, I'll say this, he did have extensive real estate holdings.

He invested, you know, he had beach houses and

over 17 properties, I believe.

Tell me about the, you know, there's one scene you go into the judge, and the judge is like, I'm not making this about abortion.

And,

I mean, that's kind of what this is.

He's an abortion doctor.

And,

and you, you know, the, the, the, uh, prosecution, who couldn't get a doctor, at first at least, to testify against, no doctor would, would testify.

Why?

Well, I think it's that sort of medical.

You know, I don't really know.

I mean, I'd be guessing, but I think it's that sort of medical brotherhood kind of thing.

There's, there's, you know, it's just bad form to testify against one of your own.

Would you not testify against Mengele?

I mean, he wasn't doing experiments on people, but just honest to God, just in cleanliness, this guy was

a horror show, let alone what he was doing to girls.

Right.

Well, I think also the politics entered into it.

I mean,

the doctors, I think, had the idea, probably correctly, that if they testified in this, it was going to become a political circus, and they didn't want to be part of it.

They just didn't want to spend their time or their endanger their reputations by jumping into the middle of something that's controversial, especially when they weren't involved, really.

They would just be testifying as expert witnesses, and it wasn't their act to grind necessarily.

But one of the shocking scenes in the movie is as they're pulling up to the courthouse, one of them says in the car,

okay, prepare for a zoo, listen, don't you know, don't answer any questions, just keep moving forward.

And they open the car door, and there is no one there.

And there is no one in the

trial, in the courtroom.

Nobody, nobody from the press.

And it's a little shocking, especially for this time,

you know, an age where

this is one of the greatest, most horrific stories in American history, and no one was there to document it.

I think then they just couldn't figure out a way to spin it.

You know, they just couldn't figure out a way to actually cover the story and not risk helping

tell the truth,

not risk helping the pro-life movement.

That had to be what was going on.

And

the press stayed away from the trial until Kirsten Powers, I believe it was, wrote an op-ed saying, why isn't anybody covering this?

This should be what we're looking at.

And after that, it's sort of like it kind of broke a little bit nationally, and then people came to the trial towards the end of it.

And it's not one of those stories.

I mean, it's truly amazing.

You did a great job on the film.

It has the creepiness of Silence of the Lambs.

And I don't say that lightly.

It really has that kind of creepy feeling to it.

But without any kind of sensationalism and without any gore,

and it's

because, you know, you say, oh, you want to go see the abortion abortion movie no nobody wants to go see an abortion movie this is

this was

so

shocking in its coldness and in and

how much you just had no idea happened that it is strangely not one of those movies that you want to look away from does that make sense to you

yeah I mean and we really consciously made that effort we we said we we we want to make this something that is palatable, that people can watch,

and

let the facts speak for themselves.

So we really, really worked hard to try to make a PG-13 movie that everybody could see.

And I think the way that we did that is that we focused on the detectives and the lawyers.

We focused on the heroes of the piece, which were the people who

caught Gosnell and who took him to trial and convicted him.

That's amazing.

And by doing that, it made the movie more of a thriller and a courtroom drama than any sort of

shock gore movie.

Right.

What's truly amazing to me is this is

you'd see this on Sherlock.

You've seen worse than this on Sherlock and

how many shows.

I mean, geez, man, you were, you know, you're part of

CSI.

Yeah, you're part of those shows.

You see this stuff.

And

this is done more tastefully than some of the stuff you've seen and you'll watch.

But people will say, I don't want to see this because it's real.

And that's why you should see this.

Nick, I hope you continue to work

and I wish you lots of luck in the future.

And on this film, it opens

when is it?

October 12th.

October 12th.

October 12th nationwide.

And

if you can, make sure you bring friends, lots of friends, because this is not going to be reviewed.

And if it is reviewed, I guarantee it gets bad reviews.

People are going to avoid it.

They don't want it.

Is there anything else that people can do to help spread the word?

Well, you know, if you go to gosmelmovie.com,

we have a number of advanced screenings that we're doing around the country

before the release uh and i think they're playing in dallas tonight i was going to

have to stay stay here in toronto to uh to make uh another i'm doing a mini series now about ebola i get all the good ones geez man um

good for you

there's a lot of screenings around the country we're going to the carolinas next week We're in Washington, D.C.

this weekend.

And so just check on the website and see if there's a screening near you, and you can sign up and go see the movie before it opens.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate it, Nick, and best of luck.

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I mean, it definitely looks like they're going to lose the House at the moment.

Senate is, they're favored, but might lose.

Okay.

And we discussed earlier, that means, can you think of a scenario where they don't impeach the president?

I mean, they're not going to care about the evidence, right?

So they're just just going to do it out of politics, so I can't imagine they won't do it.

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You can't have power in the House, which has the power to impeach and not use it after all of this.

And anything good that's going on that's good for the economy is going to come screeching to a halt because they're not going to be able to pass anything.

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It's Thursday, September 20th.

This is the Glenn Back program.

So, I mean, unless you, you know, just happen on this show for the first time today,

I've got a new book out.

Surprise, surprise.

The book is called Addicted to Outrage.

And,

you know, I'm very concerned about the outrage that's happening politically, but I am equally concerned about technology that is coming our way.

We are standing at the best of times and the worst of times, and it's going to be up to us on whether technology and

our own

human instincts and the worst of us bring us this dark future or a good future.

I'm an optimistic catastrophist,

but it is up up to us.

And the only reason why I'm optimistic is because I know who we are when the chips are down.

But where is our bottom?

Most people will tell you, I don't have a problem with social media.

I'm not addicted.

Yeah, you really are.

And it's been designed to addict us.

I mean, what company sets out and says, you know what, I want to design something that people don't really want to check all the time.

It's designed for that.

And the way this is happening happening now in our society and everything is becoming political and

we're starting to divide each other and call each other names.

This is not good.

And whether you just woke up to this or you've always known this, you've got to start changing behavior and speaking to people differently and checking

yourself and social media.

Judith Doneth is with us now.

Judith, how are you?

Good.

How are you?

Very good.

You have

wrote the book, The Social Machine: Designs for Living Online.

You were also part of the MIT Media Lab sociable media group.

I quote you in my book saying, Every ping could be social, sexual, or professional opportunity, and we get a media reward, a squirt of

dopamine for answering the bell.

These rewards serve as jolts of energy that recharge the compulsion engine, much like the frision of a gambler receives when a new card hits the table.

Cumulatively, the effect is potent and hard to resist.

Tell me how

I don't think people really believe that we are

dope addicts.

A quick backup.

I don't think in the original quote I had said that we get a jolt of dopamine, but I don't think it's really important what the exact neurology behind it is.

You know, I think most of us are aware of that feeling that, for instance, if you post something, a comment, you're always interested in seeing that people have liked it.

A lot of this was actually on the positive side.

The addiction is not necessarily about outrage.

I think at the time I was thinking more of the issue around people posting pictures of kittens online and how popular comics had gotten.

So you know, I'm not,

sorry that if you felt I was presenting it this way, I'm not presenting you to prove my theory at all on outrage at all.

I'm talking specifically just about social media and how social media is affecting us.

And I think you're right.

At first, and I think even some ways now, even if it's in a negative way,

we still do get that

hit and that high from people saying, I like this.

more, do more, whatever it is, a kitty cat video or an outrageous remark, people are

getting high off of this.

People like me, people are talking about me, I've got something

to say that people want to hear.

Right.

And it's in some ways it's a little bit like the story of junk food.

We evolved to want to have particular things, and sugar is useful for energy.

Salt is really useful.

but if you take them and make food that's just about those things and just about those tastes and is designed just to get you to keep eating, then it's really unhealthy.

And the desires both to be liked by others, if we did not care what other people think of us, that's the mentality of a psychopath.

You know, you want people who care about each other, who care, you know, am I doing things that other people think are acceptable?

That's how we have community.

But if you start distilling that out into a space where everything you say gives you a little measurement of how many likes you get, and you can measure it against the other things you said or what other people have said, it starts getting into the realm of social junk food.

Do you think it's, I mean, are you, I mean, I know you're studying the media now.

Do you think we're at the point of social junk food or we're social junkies to where, because we're, it's, you know, you say, you know, if you don't care what people think, you're, you know, you're a sociopath.

Agree.

However, we have, on both right and left, decided we don't care what half of the country thinks of us.

So we are, what, a half a sociopath.

There's a group of people, no matter what side you're on, no matter what the topic is, there's a group of people that have been deemed the enemy.

And so you can tweet whatever you want because you'll get all of the applause from your crowd, whoever your crowd happens to be.

Right.

Well, I mean, and those are deeper issues that have been exacerbated by social media.

But I think you can look in history at, you know, the rise of fascistic governments in the past.

There's a long history of war in human history.

So the fact that you have a country that's deeply divided by groups who think the other one is the spawn of the devil is not actually new.

But we're seeing a particular version of it with social media.

Partly we get to see it played out in public all the time.

And I think it's also very easy to blame the technology for it without looking at some of the deeper causes.

And the issues around the attention are both

when it's negative, like

being able to rally people to your side by saying political things that are really outrageous, but

it's also a problem when it's much more

even positive things, like worrying about saying,

shaping all of your views in terms of what will people like.

From the political stand, though, I think where

there's a little bit of a difference on the right and the left, and perhaps this is where we may disagree,

because I think that on the right you have a, or on the more authoritarian side, and I think there's an authoritarian left also, but where you have people who feel very, very strongly that they are absolutely right and that all the outsiders are just wrong is where you get the phenomenon you're talking about, where they can, or they will tweet something or post things that are not only outrageous, but not true.

And it will get a great deal of approval from the others on their side and outrage the outsiders, which is what they're seeking.

And that's a particularly dangerous phenomenon online.

Aaron Ross Powell,

Judith, I think that's a dangerous thing anywhere.

Myself, it doesn't have to be right or left.

And,

you know,

I write in my book that

certitude is probably

our biggest threat right now.

Everyone on each side is is absolutely certain that their side is right, as long as you agree with it 100%.

You know, their side is right.

The other side is absolutely wrong.

And

this

certainty, and I think that it does come from the extremes.

And I know that

I read in the book, the thing that one time made me popular

was the thing that everybody wanted, I guess.

And

I just

was right.

I was right.

Everybody else was wrong.

I was right.

I was certain of it.

Now,

the less certain I become of things, the more I hear the pain in people on all sides of the front.

And the more I'm noticing that it is, it's the certitude in the extremes on both sides that are killing us.

I mean, you can't say you know, you can't say that,

you know, all people that want

a bigger welfare state are communists.

That's ridiculous.

And you can't say that all people that voted for Donald Trump are deplorables.

Both of those

are wrong.

And

it seems as though we are only playing to those certainties at the extreme.

And that's stopping us from being human beings and recognizing others as human beings.

Mm-hmm.

Yes, and I think that's a lot of the danger of

the present moment is that ability to once you start cease seeing others as human.

And

part of the issue is if you look at the history of highly authoritarian movements, a lot of it it is about trying to portray those who are outsiders as very, very dangerous and subhuman.

And so you can do anything and say anything about them, and it only strengthens your inner group.

And this is, you know, I mean, this is a phenomenon we're seeing much more now than we did, you know, even ten years ago, and not just here, but throughout the world.

There is

an arrogance

in some way to technology right now, or those who are developing technology.

I'm concerned about

AI, AGI, ASI.

I don't claim to know, and I don't think anybody can claim to know with any kind of certainty when or if that can happen.

But it is something to think about, the upgrading, the transhumanism, the upgrading of ourselves,

the enhancements that are coming.

We're messing with

things that we don't really even understand because we don't even understand ourselves yet.

We haven't mastered our own self-control.

Are you concerned at all?

I mean,

I'm not a technophobe and I'm not afraid of technology.

I am concerned about the goals of some of the technology and how those programs are written and what we teach.

Are you concerned at all about

how some of this stuff will change us that

we can't then reverse?

Well, I think there are a number of things to be concerned about with artificial intelligence.

I think the immediate issue is the ability of machines to imitate humans in ways that we can't recognize.

That's something that I think a lot of people are starting to be familiar with on Twitter, where it's very hard to tell if something was written by a human or by a bot.

And the issue there is that, again, especially as a lot of our conversation occurs online, if you think you're speaking with another human, one of the important parts in what happens when we communicate with others, hopefully,

leaving out the extremes of anger, is that there's a level of empathy underneath.

Even if you're trying to persuade someone else, it's because you care what they think, and often you care what they think of you.

And that's really sort of the fundamental part of our connection with others.

But if you're conversing with a bot, there's no connection there.

It's simply something that has been programmed to affect some means, some end.

And so

made to be a lot more effective and much more persuasive than people are, while the people don't recognize what they're dealing with.

Or even if they do,

if it's something like an Alexa,

it becomes your friend, it's in your house, it chats with you,

it asks you how your day was, but you don't know what is actually going on in the program and what its internal motivations are,

which is likely to be something that's beneficial to the maker of it, not to you.

Yes.

So

this is something that is

deeply concerning

that

Alexa will be

everywhere.

Google controls so much information and placement.

Just slight changes to algorithms can

change people

and

the most likely scenario is get them to spend more, spend more time, do something that the company wants.

Is it concerning to you?

I've always been a capitalist.

I've always been less worried about the companies.

I'm concerned about the government and the companies.

I'm concerned about anyone having this kind of

power in our lives.

Yes, I had always been mostly concerned with the companies.

I thought the government was less worrisome.

I'm now worried about both.

But

I think that, yes, I think the companies are quite dangerous, partly because, I mean, and we may again differ here, is that it's both that they want you to continue to consume things, which is not necessarily good for your pocketbook, it's terrible for the environment.

So if you look at even a simple case where we leave out the government, we leave out worries about fascist governments controlling people, just companies doing what they need to do to make more money, If you can turn people into even more rabid consumers than they are now,

what does that do to our society?

It's not a particularly healthy outlook.

Well,

I think

we've seen this already play out with

Bernays in the 1920s of

the first

king of advertising and how he could subtly move people in a different direction.

I mean, it's why we have

ham and eggs

for breakfast.

That wasn't anything except advertising, very, very clever advertising at the time through our doctors.

And I think we're kind of seeing just a modern version of that.

Judith, I have to cut you loose.

I thank you so much for your time

and thanks for being out there thinking about ethics and what's happening with technology.

Judith Doneth,

a fellow of

Harvard Berkman Klein Center.

Thanks for being on the road.

Thank you.

All right.

Well, I got one, I got, I got, we had a point of, we had a point of agreement.

Yeah.

She was, she was, she was, you know, always concerned about the companies.

I was always concerned about the government.

Now we're both concerned about both of them.

Yay.

That's good.

That's good.

That's good.

All right.

Stu,

are the studio chairs in yet?

The X-Chair?

No.

Okay, this is driving me nuts because I know the X-Chair people, they deliver right away.

It is somebody in our organization who is slowing this down.

Oh, yes.

I'm sure they're here somewhere, but they're not in here yet, and I'm not sitting on one of them.

Unfortunately, would you find out for me today?

X-Chair is my new office chair, and I just ordered some for the studio, or I've asked somebody to order some for the studio, and they haven't been ordered, or something is wrong, but I know it's not with the ex-chair people because I talked to the ex-chair people, and they're like, we'll ship it tomorrow.

Okay,

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Okay,

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You know,

here's a good example of the principle that I talked about in the book.

And people say, oh, Glenn, you just want to surrender.

You just want us to reconcile with everybody.

No, no, no, no, no.

Notice the last interview.

I at least felt it was hostile from the get-go.

And

let's say this.

She was not going to agree.

We were not going to agree.

She She was talking about certainty, but she was certain that the problem was really more with the right than the left.

I made a choice.

I could have talked to her for 40 minutes.

I made a choice.

You know what?

I don't think I'm going to be able to change her mind and find a way to each other quickly in 40 minutes.

And I don't want to argue with her.

And I, you know, so

there are some people that you talk to and you agree to disagree and you move on and you move on as friends.

Others, I think their minds minds can be changed.

I'm not sure she could have changed mine, or I could have changed hers.

This is the Glendeth program.

All right.

Want to talk a little bit about Brett Kavadon, the latest developments, and they're pretty, they're pretty shocking.

Uh, coming up in just a second.

First, uh, Stu, you have a good news update?

Yeah, we never, you know, we get to do this like once every six months, so let's do it today.

Um, in the year in which we had the March for Life, right?

How bad gun crimes are and how bad all of this is, not to mention all the craziness going on in Chicago and other cities.

The preliminary numbers are coming out for crime in 2018.

Down,

murder, down 7.6%.

Wow.

That would bring us to the bottom of the post-1990 decline in murder rates.

So the lowest murder rate in about 30 years.

And crime overall,

cities will experience the lowest crime rate since at least 1990.

It does not

feel this way.

It does feel so dangerous outside.

I know it's crazy.

It's incredible.

And even this, this one I found it because, you know, look, the leftists, they'll do all their gun stuff, right?

And this kind of shows that that's not the problem they're saying it is.

It's a, you know, it's still a problem, obviously, when anyone gets hit.

But it's like, this is a decreasing problem going in the right direction.

But even in Chicago, a drop of 23.2% in murder rate in Chicago.

What?

That means like no one else is killing each other.

It's just like just

the bad, nasty sections of town.

We have got somebody has got to pay attention to and listen to the people in Chicago.

You know what?

We should just go up.

We should do a show

in,

you know, I don't know.

I don't know even how to organize it, but do a show up in Chicago and just talk to the community.

What is happening?

What is happening?

Because you know those people there that are living there are freaking out.

Wouldn't you freak out?

And you would want the politics to stop and say, you know, imagine, for instance, Parkland.

You've got kids in school in Parkland and nothing has been done except this big national debate about guns.

Can you imagine as a parent, you'd be like, could somebody, I want my kids to be safe.

Can we make progress on anything?

Think of the people that are in Chicago that are living in those neighborhoods and they see that they're just being used by the media one way or the other, one side or the other,

in this stupid national argument, and nobody's seeing the individual.

That's not, that's really not good.

Um, all right.

Also, let's go to uh, uh, let's go to the Brett Kavanaugh story.

As

our guest a few minutes ago, um, who perhaps I misread,

was talking about certainty,

I think a good example of certainty is this Brett Kavanaugh thing.

First of all, if you're defending Brett Kavanaugh and saying he absolutely did not do it,

you don't know that.

Don't be certain.

You don't know that.

I have not seen...

credible facts on this to make me think that he did do this, but I don't know.

Nobody knows, apparently.

The only ones that know, he and she.

This is a he and he said, she said kind of scenario.

And the other guy

who was there and also said.

So it's he and he and she.

Okay.

Now, yesterday, she had another she come out,

and the evidence yesterday, they were presenting this as, see, there's another witness that's come forward.

The witness that came forward yesterday said, yeah, I remember there was a buzz in high school about this.

Okay.

Well, 24 hours later, she's come out again and said something different.

Yeah, she's now saying,

well, I didn't mean to say that I knew that he did this.

Now, in her tweets, she did say, she said basically, like, just admit it

and say you're sorry and move on, or something like that.

She said that she heard a buzz about the incident and that it was kind of known that it had occurred.

Today, she's like, well,

I never meant to suggest that I knew that anything happened.

She's like,

I just wrote that on social media.

I didn't know I was going to have to defend myself on 50 cable channels.

Oh, my gosh, listen to this.

So,

this is what I wanted to get to with Judith, but I don't think we could have gotten there

just because of our politics, which was unfortunate.

And maybe it was just me that read it that way.

But this is what we should talk about.

Here's somebody who, if I remember right, Stu, her exact words were, I was empowered on social media.

I was empowered on social media and I posted it.

I didn't think I'd have to

defend it on 50 cable channels.

Right.

So I was empowered.

Now think of this.

I'm empowered by social media to go on and say, just admit it.

You know, I heard a buzz about this.

Just admit it.

Now you're being asked to come on cable, television.

You're being asked to testify under oath.

And she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait.

I don't know know if this really happened i don't have any proof that's the difference that is

the addiction to outrage and the willingness just to be certain

for posturing just to be certain when you're absolutely not certain yeah yeah and and we're i mean man i don't know i some i i have a very low opinion particularly of people in washington and and i try you try to look at people as individuals and i just have to believe that, you know, you go home at night after a day of going on television and saying things like, they want to silence this accuser by inviting her to testify in front of America about her story and get more attention than it possibly could have ever had.

When you say things like that, you have to know what you're saying

is a lie.

You have to know what you're saying doesn't make sense.

You can't believe that.

You can't believe that.

Let me play the other side.

Let me play the other side.

Try to think.

They're trying to silence because, try this emphasize.

They're trying to silence because here's this woman who has been victimized

and they're going to get her up there.

And

I mean, this is hard for me to swallow if I actually have this point.

And you know what happens.

You know what they do to people who are testifying.

They'll be saying horrible things about her.

The senators will be saying horrible things.

They won't really be questioning her.

They'll just make speeches.

The place will go in, you know, and people will be shouting.

I mean, basically, you can't put her in that situation because our side just did this to Kavanaugh.

Right.

Of course, they allow her to do it in private.

So

even that doesn't work because it's not about an, you know, I mean, I guess she'd be embarrassed in the room.

I don't know what.

The bottom line is.

What did you think?

There is no other evidence other than her.

Yeah, right.

There's no other other evidence other than her saying it.

It's the same, there's the same amount of evidence of her claim as me saying I own Australia.

I just said it, so there's your evidence.

That's it.

There's nothing else.

Now Australia has to answer for it.

Yeah, exactly.

But again, I think it's overtly disingenuous.

And even it's not the question of

whether America believes these claims.

The left doesn't believe them.

The left does not believe the things they're saying right now.

And how do you, how do you, and you know, this all goes down to the idea of the ends justifying the means.

We need to stop him because we think Kavanaugh is bad.

And if we can get past this election, we might win and we might have a chance to do our thing.

So,

based on that, say or do anything to stop him.

Even if what you have to say is blatantly false, even if you have to accuse him of terrible, terrible things, even if you have to make arguments that are blatantly nonsensical, go ahead and do it.

And that, you know, that is a, that's like you should never put yourself.

I heard a woman on CHC.

I think we actually have the audio, I think, of this, but she said the Republican, she said the Republicans are telling the accuser she will never be able to tell her story.

Now, first of all, she's asking her to invite her.

Number one, they asked her to come tell the story.

That's the request.

Here, listen to this real quick.

Diane Feinstein handled this matter in the way that she handled it.

That has nothing to do with Dr.

Ford and her right to be given a fair process.

And nothing can be fair when she's being rushed, an arbitrary deadline.

There are no deadlines set for when this confirmation vote has to take place.

They've set this arbitrary deadline.

They've said to her, you provide us with your statement by Friday.

You show up here by Monday.

And if you don't, you will forever be forbidden from telling your story, your truth about

attempted rape.

I don't need to hear any of this.

I got it.

So you will forever be forbidden, right?

Number one, as you point out, this is a story about her being asked to come talk about her story.

This is what the,

that's what it is.

Number two,

she will forever be forbidden to tell her story.

She had 36 years to tell her story.

And then finally,

even if, let's say the Kavanaugh thing goes forward and he gets confirmed, is there anything preventing her from telling her story after that?

Nope.

No.

The point is, it is of no value to Democrats if she tells it after that.

The only thing this is about is them blocking Kavanaugh.

They don't care about this woman at all if she actually had these

abuse actually happen to her.

They are rooting for it to be true.

And that is disturbing.

So here's the thing.

I think you're right on this, but I also think that

some people on the left look at this entirely differently and do believe it.

Okay?

They do believe this.

I don't think you can.

And here's...

No, no, no, hear me out.

If you are a postmodernist social justice warrior, okay?

So postmodernism has now been embedded into social justice, and it's why it makes it so wicked.

Because you can believe this.

Here's what you believe.

And I'm not making this up.

This is how social justice coupled with postmodernism works.

Here's this victim.

She's a victim.

She's a woman.

Okay.

She's a part of an oppressed class.

All women are oppressed.

If she didn't experience it, someone else has experienced that very same thing.

So she's just a voice for all of those who have experienced this.

So we must believe her because we're no longer talking about her, we're talking about the collective.

And we must stop men from doing this.

So we support her because she is going after the system, the patriarchy, the system that has repressed these women and kept women silent for so many years.

Okay.

Yeah.

And they absolutely believe that.

They can also absolutely believe that he is innocent.

No, I can't say innocent.

He is, he did not do it.

But it doesn't matter in the new postmodern social justice because of social justice.

We're looking at the collective.

And so if it didn't happen to her, it doesn't matter.

It's happened before.

If he wasn't the perpetrator, it doesn't matter because there's another cisgender male who has done this.

And so

by getting him and supporting her, it provides the collective justice.

That's why you should be terrified of this kind of justice.

This is the argument of the OJ jurors, right?

I mean, they said, look, I don't know, right?

O.J.

may have killed that white woman, but and they may have not have framed him, but police have framed them before.

And black people have been falsely accused before.

Therefore, OJ is innocent.

I mean, the same thing.

And that comes from outrage.

That comes from anger.

That comes from a place of being ignored, of people not really talking about the issue.

And it will only get worse.

I have one more thing.

I just want to stress this.

Remember that the woman who came out yesterday said she was empowered.

She She was empowered.

What does she mean by that?

She was empowered by the internet.

Was she empowered by the people who liked and retweeted it?

Was she empowered by I'm suddenly popular?

Was she empowered by looks someone's listening to me?

Did she feel empowered

because she was the one with the memory?

What was she empowered by?

How is that working?

Because it's working on all of us.

Why did she feel empowered to tell something and say things that the very next day, when people took her seriously and she saw the ramifications of her words?

What made her so empowered to say these things that could destroy people one day and the next day go, wait, wait, wait, no, I don't even know if that's true.

That's a pretty powerful, dare I say it, hit of dopamine, jolt of dopamine.

There's some kind of drug that empowers you to do that.

You go into a lot of that in the book.

Addicted to outrage, it is available right now at bookstores everywhere.

I didn't know that, Stu.

Thank you.

I just wanted to let you know.

All right, I want to talk to you about American financing.

We've brought this up three times today, that it looks like the House is going to go to the Democrats, and it is the House that

files for impeachment.

And impeachment doesn't mean removal from office.

There's two things: the House has to vote to impeach, then it goes to the deliberative body, the Senate,

and they have a trial.

So it doesn't matter if they even have evidence.

They can impeach.

It's the trial that removes the president.

I believe they are going to impeach this president.

When these things happen, I'm telling you, our stock market, our dollar,

our economy, everything is going to change.

Everything is going to change.

Okay, so what does that mean for you?

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Last night I recorded a podcast with Lewis Howes.

He does the School of Greatness.

It comes out, I think, next Wednesday.

He's just

a real gentleman.

He's great.

Sunday, Ben Shapiro.

I'm on his Sunday Conversations.

Adam Carolla next week.

Also,

Lauder with Crowder today, live at 3:45.

He's going live on all of his platforms.

It'll be YouTube and everything else.

That's 3:45 Eastern Time with Stephen Crowder today.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.