'A Day We Will Never Forget' - 9/11/18

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Glenn Beck.

It's Tuesday, September 11th.

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Say again.

Exactly.

Yeah, that transmission he said was unreasonable.

It sounded like someone said they have a bomb on board.

Sir, did you hear the transmission where the airplane just said he had a bomb on board?

The affirmative, he said there was a bomb on board.

That's what we thought.

We just

didn't get it clear.

He's just turned to the east, also.

We did, but we lost him at the turn.

You can make a turn back to 220 heading.

Let me know if you can see it.

American 10-60, executive 956, we just lost the target on that aircraft.

Man, Z-100-852.

Something weird is going on.

The World Trade Center is on fire.

Oh, my God.

Seriously, the top of the building.

We're trying to get information.

Top level of one of the wounded deadly news to unfold from New York's

plane crashed.

My sister's in that building.

Okay.

And I hope she's okay.

And I gotta run to New York.

Oh, my God.

It's complete pandemic.

First of all, calm down.

We're gonna go.

It's raining papers and everything.

A second airplane, a 727 comes back to the shooting.

God, it was a huge explosion.

People jumping out the windows.

Oh, yeah, they're jumping out the windows.

A second plane has now flown in.

Wait, exploded it to Pentagon.

A third location on

and outside of Washington.

I don't have words to describe what I'm witnessing right now.

Effective immediately until further notice, flight operations in the national airspace system by United States civil aircraft and foreign civil and military aircraft are prohibited.

Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward

and freedom will be defended.

Oh God,

it just landed on Manhattan.

All right, so now we look back up to the TV.

One of the World Trade Towers

has collapsed and fallen.

I've never seen anything like this.

They've got five patients.

They need to.

We We got an ambulance full of cops and pedestrians.

We got another tower that just came down, Texas.

Female officer, where are you now, Candy?

Where are you, Cannon?

Where are you?

Where are you?

Where are you?

Where are you?

Where are you?

We're not going to be stopped.

We're not gonna be deterred.

We're not gonna stay at home.

We're not gonna be frightened.

We're gonna live our lives as Americans.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

We're all brothers.

We've all got to stick together.

One nation, under God, indivisible.

My God, look at the skyline without the towers.

It is Tuesday, September 11th,

2001.

This is Glenn Beck.

Dateline, New York.

In one of the most audacious attacks ever,

terrorists hijacked two airliners.

Crashed them into the World Trade Center in a coordinated series of blows today that brought down the twin 110-story towers,

thousands may be dead.

58,000 people

work at the World Trade Center.

One plane, United Flight 93,

crashed north of Somerset County Airport,

a small airport 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh.

United said that flight counted on America to be passed.

Boeing 757

left New York at 801

and entrepreneurs with 38 passengers.

It is as old as the scriptures.

We will not falter and is as clear and we will not fail as the American Constitution.

That is

the news

of this day.

September 11th.

2001.

Is that United 93?

Is that United 93 calling?

United 93.

United 9 are through.

United Ninety Three

United Ninety

United Ninety

People who were born around 9-11

are getting ready to vote for the very first time.

They don't

remember an America that that

wasn't at war.

An America

where Fox wasn't, a powerhouse wasn't.

It wasn't us versus them.

Katie Couric was America's sweetheart.

Now, most people don't even know who Katie Corick is.

It was a time before Matt Lauer

was known as a predator.

Our home phones were still really our primary source of communication, and they were wired, usually on the wall in a kitchen.

There were no smartphones.

There were no text messages, messages, no Facebook, Twitter, Instagram.

In fact, the largest social network in the history of the world

was still four years away.

And that social network was MySpace.

People who will be voting for the first time don't remember a time before there was a TSA

being patted down at the airport.

The intrusions that are made with the people in the blue gloves and the blue shirts.

There was no homeland security.

There was no

snooping

that we knew of.

it was a time before

it was a time when it was rare to see amputations,

robotic arms,

robotic legs,

feet and legs that have been replaced by a blade or a ski.

I don't even know what they are.

Before September 11th,

most people didn't really have a strong opinion on Islam.

They didn't even know what it was.

Nobody knew who Osama bin Laden was.

There was a time

so long ago now

where twenty-one soldiers, at best,

killed themselves every day.

There was a time

before words were meaningless.

There was a time

when we could come together.

There was a time

when truth and justice

meant the American way.

And then September eleventh happened

on a beautiful Tuesday morning.

We woke up for a moment,

and then we went back to sleep.

But the good news is,

we are, as individuals, individuals, should we choose, stronger because of it,

more wise.

We know what our country is, what our country has done, what our country can do,

who we are as a people,

who we hope to be, who we wish to be.

We're bogged down in the smoke and the dust of all the old lies coming down, tower after tower

but should we choose that dust will settle

and we can clean ourselves up

and reunite

because it's not September 11th

that

is the memory we choose

It's September 12th, the day after.

That's the memory that all of us

wish we could relive over and over and over again.

All of us, Republicans and Democrats.

Because that was the day

we came together, not with our fist raised in our hand,

fist raised in the air, but our hand down with palm open, willing to share, willing to help, willing to lift up.

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We thought it would be really fascinating today to give you three perspectives that you haven't heard before.

One of them is from a guy named Bob Beckwith.

You might remember Bob.

He was the firefighter that stood next to George W.

Bush on the fire truck and the famous bullhorn speech that George Bush gave.

I've kind of made this deal with myself that I'm not going to spend another day

where I have access to people who have witnessed history and not talk to them.

Bob is now in his, what, 80s?

And we called him up and said, Bob,

can you tell us about that experience and what happened?

He told us the most amazing story that

we've never heard anyplace.

And I don't know why, because it is a fascinating story.

He's coming up in hour number three.

Also, we thought we would spend time with two people with very different perspective.

One was on the other side of the planet and actually saw it happen in a bar on television, but thought it was just a bad movie.

And the other was 20 blocks away and watched it fall.

We want to welcome to the program

Jason Battrill and also Riaz Patel.

How are you, Riaz?

We're all laughing because we just corrected you on our names, and now we're very solid.

I'm so bad.

I've known you guys forever, and I can never get your pronunciation right now.

I never will.

To be clear, he went one for two there.

Yeah.

Patel and Buttrell.

Butrell.

Jason Buttrell.

That's the only way through my name.

How are you?

Jason,

you were actually in the military.

Yep.

And

you were on shore leave.

Yep.

Where?

Darwin, Australia, which was like a crazy bucket list item for anybody that's in the military.

Well, I guess really anybody really wants to go to Australia.

Yeah.

But like, you got to think about the time.

It was peacetime.

You know, like all of us that joined the military were doing it probably to pay for college.

Like, there was no wars breaking out.

There was no sign that it wasn't like now.

Like now, you pretty much expect if you go into the military, you're probably going to see combat.

But that was not 2001.

That was definitely not then.

No, we hadn't seen combat really since the Gulf War.

And even then, it was over so fast, you know, and it's just over with.

But so that was our mindset.

So like we were, our deployment schedule was basically just like a big vacation schedule.

You go and do a quick little, you know, you know, exercise, which we were doing with the Australian Marines.

And but no one really cared about that.

We were just going out and having fun in Australia.

But so that was that was the day of September 11th was crazy.

So like they let out everybody off the boats.

We hit, you know, and you can imagine if you've been cooped up on a ship for two or three weeks, you are ready to have some fun.

So we ran out sightseeing all day long.

None None of us had a clue about what was going to happen that night.

Because we were still asleep.

Yeah, that's right.

So it was like, yeah, it was during the daytime.

Towards the end of the night, I guess it was probably morning, or I don't even know what time the actual planes hit.

9, 8.50, something like that.

9.30.

9.02.

Yeah, something like that.

Okay, so we're winding down our shore leave.

It's supposed to end that night around 11 or 12 a.m., I think, that night.

So we're taking it all, you know, in.

We're taking as much as we can.

We're soaking it all in.

I'm sitting at a sports bar, tons of Marines, tons of sailors

all over the streets.

There's fights breaking out.

You can imagine how it is.

It's not very pretty.

So I glance over my shoulder and I see what looks like a bad Australian movie.

There's one of the towers that's on fire.

I didn't even think I connected it to the World Trade Center at the time.

I looked over, saw it,

kept on having the conversation, drinking my last beer of Shore League before we go back on ship.

And

things started getting a little bit crazy maybe about an hour later.

A lot of commotion down the streets, tons of commotion.

You're screaming.

Everyone's freaking out.

I think more fights are breaking out.

Stupid Marines.

That all changed maybe about 15 minutes later when all the military police and the Marines on duty and

the Navy people on duty came out, started, stopped all the music.

Like, everyone, now

get to the vans we have parked outside.

If there's overflow, get in a taxi cab.

It's on you to make it out because we are pulling out in about 60 minutes.

Which was nothing you had ever seen before.

No,

when you're in the military, sometimes they want to test you to see if you could be a conscientious objector.

And they want to see, like, they'll trick you into thinking an attack happened.

Some of us thought that's what was happening.

Like, well, this is just an exercise, elaborate.

So you get into the van, you get to the ship, and what happens next

will happen next on this program.

Standby.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

We're just looking up at the monitors, and Fox is, you know, doing a compilation of all of the films from 9-11.

And Bob Beckwith, that firefighter that we're going to be speaking to here in about two hours,

that was standing next to George Bush with the bullhorn, is up there.

And we're all laughing now, going,

we look at that video now, and you will too, in completely different ways.

And we're like, he was afraid of getting caught.

It's a fascinating story.

17 years I thought about that.

I thought he ran the entire recovery operation down there.

That's why I thought he was up there.

Wait until you hear.

Totally different.

Wait until you hear the story.

It's amazing.

Okay, so we were with Jason.

He was in Australia

and you were an enlisted guy.

You joined, you know,

get an education, go have some fun.

And all of a sudden,

you're being jammed into a van in the middle of the night.

You've seen the World Trade Center on fire, but you thought it was just a bad Australian movie.

Right.

I'm still not connecting anything to that, really, because we were talking in the break, how sometimes they try and do little tricks on you to see if you're a conscientious objector.

Because literally, that was the time we were in.

You know, people did not really join because they thought they were going to combat.

It just was not the state of mind during that time.

They went for college education.

Right.

Yeah.

But so

we're in the vans and we're heading on.

And there's a sergeant that's in the passenger seat riding shotgun and I'm like sergeant What's what's going on?

And he's like well I I don't know fully myself, but thousands of Americans have just died.

The United States is under attack and that's all I know.

And really, you're just like, I mean, it was it was like a gut punch.

We're like, what?

I mean, I still, it's like, is this real?

So we get back to the we get back to the ship and it's it looks like one of those World War II movies where there's just hundreds and hundreds of people getting on the boats because everyone's getting on in mass.

What kind of ship were you on?

It was a, I think it's called an LHA.

So it looks like an aircraft carrier, but it's a little bit smaller than that because it's for helicopters.

So mostly just tons of Marines and tons of pilots on this thing.

So I hit the ship.

First thing I went was straight to the skiff, which is the place where all the classified information goes in.

Because you were in intelligence.

Right.

And I went in there.

I barely was able to squeeze in.

The captain of the ship was there.

Everyone's there.

This is the kind of room that you need a combination to get into

the room.

It's one of those, you you see them in the movies where it's all red lit, all red lights.

Right.

Go inside there.

I barely was able to squeeze in, instantly got kicked out, but I was able to confirm that, yes, the attack on the Twin Towers happened.

They were tracking everything going on in the Pentagon, everything.

And I was like, oh my gosh, this is insane.

I got kicked out because I was very low man on the tolling pole and went out to go find my buddies.

We were just starting to push off.

And something that I noticed, it's weird, the things you notice that really have an impact, but But we were always told that, you know, you never see the Navy manning their big 50-cal machine guns on the side of the boats.

That just doesn't happen unless they're going through like the Persian Gulf or something like that.

Well, they were, the covers were off the guns.

They were manning them.

The kids looked scared.

I remember that, I'd never forget the looks on some of their faces.

Their kids are like 18, 19 years old.

And they're manning these guns, not knowing what's going on.

Because at this point, only a select few people know what's going on at that point.

So they have no idea.

There's rumors that we've been attacked.

That's all everyone knows at this point.

But they're manning these guns fully loaded and we're pushing out.

We're like, what is going on?

So about a couple hours later, everyone that's not on duty gets called up to the flight deck.

And, you know, it's your typical like top gun scene.

You know, everyone's up on the flight deck.

We're all in formation.

And I, to this day, I cannot remember what the captain of the ship said.

I have no recollection of what he said at all.

I think we were just kind of just dazed.

But I'll never forget what the colonel of the Marine Expeditionary Unit said.

Fullbird Colonel has us all, you know, in formation.

And it was very short, very sweet, and to the point.

But it was something along the lines of this.

He said, Men, my father and your grandfather's day of infamy was December 7th, 1941.

And I remember he stopped, kind of collected himself.

And he was like, that's in the history books, but that is their history.

Our day of infamy will forever be known as September 11th, 2001.

He said, men, we've been attacked.

We're going to war.

And we're supposed to not say anything during those formations but everybody

elated everyone's you know it was basically

a roar basically is the best way to describe it everyone was pissed off it was confirmed it all hit home at that point that this is very real what we've been training for the reason why we joined the military was not to

you know, get our colleges paid for, it was to protect our country.

And it was a weird feeling.

It was, you know, we were all mad, but we were all disappointed.

There's a feeling of this was our watch.

This happened under our watch.

So what are you going to do about it?

Well,

we brief humanitarian stint in East Timor that we did.

From there, we immediately went off to the coast of Pakistan.

From there, we stayed in Pakistan for about a month.

This all went very, very quickly.

So I had no idea what was going on back home, everything going on, but we were invading Afghanistan within just a couple months later.

So I want to now take us back home to a very different perspective.

We'll do that when we come back.

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so here we are in a world that is radically different

to the point to where you meet somebody like I met uh riaz patel and

the first thing he thought of me without meeting me was,

he's got to be a guy who, you know, hates Islam or is a problem with Islamic people.

And my first thought was, oh, he's a sleeper cell.

I've realized now it's more of a coma cell.

He never wakes up.

Anyway,

and here we are, friends, but

your experience being a Pakistani Muslim immigrant was very different, and you're living

20 blocks away from

the World Trade Center.

Yeah, it was just down 7th Avenue in Verica, direct line you could see down 7th Avenue to the Twin Towers, was where I lived.

What happened that day?

I woke up because my answering machine, I couldn't remember what it was called because it was so long ago, an answering machine, someone I worked with said, you've got to get up, you've got to get up, something's going on.

And that was when the second tower hit.

And so, what I did is I went up to the roof of my building and saw what it looked like two cigarettes, the twin towers, with little red on top.

It didn't look like they literally looked like two cigarettes burning.

And so I thought that was so strange.

And I went down and didn't quite understand.

No one knew what was going on.

And then I came back up and one of them was gone.

And I had never, they say in movies where people like stumble backwards when they can't comprehend something.

It actually does happen.

I got up to the top of my roof and then took three, four steps back because what I was seeing, the largest buildings in Manhattan,

one of them wasn't there, like gone.

And then I watched the second one come down and the

slow motion of that slowly falling, a building that you get out of a subway and you look for the Twin Tower and you know whether you're looking south or north, it is your compass in Manhattan.

It was gone.

There was a mountain.

Riaz, I've watched the space shuttle.

Have you ever watched the space shuttle take off?

Yeah.

Okay.

You know how you're so far away, you see it, it lights, you see the smoke, you see everything, and then you hear it

many seconds later.

Was there that time differential?

There was the sound, you could hear something, and then the rumble sort of built, and then it kept going.

It was sort of building and building as it fell.

The smoke dispelled along the streets, which was so strange.

And the thing that I remember the most is the smell.

For days, there was this smell of incinerated everything, materials, flesh.

It was the most acrid smell.

And walking around.

You're the only person I have ever heard.

Tanya and I, for years, at least a decade, thank God I have forgotten that smell.

Every time I would think about the World Trade Center, I could smell that smell.

I imagine

you smell things in wartime.

It felt like being in a war zone, and I was not a soldier.

It was literally just going to work that day.

And we suddenly felt like we were in a battle zone.

And you saw the people walking along, covered in the dust, coming from the trade centers.

They're walking up towards wherever.

The posters that people put desperately looking for this loved one.

Oh, my gosh.

That was the most heartbreaking thing that you would see these on every flat surface of walls, of hospitals, and Grand Central.

Photos, their most adorable photo of a woman with her children saying missing, missing, missing, missing.

And you knew on some level, none of these people would ever be found again.

So

you had a different experience.

Yeah.

You went down to...

How many days later?

You went down to one of a bar that you

two days later.

So the next day, September 12th, I was standing in line at 8 a.m.

at St.

Vincent to donate blood.

We didn't know what was needed.

We didn't know what kind of injuries there were.

And at some point, the line started watching me.

And actually, I remember the line turning on me.

And I was with two friends.

And this guy said to me, we should kill you and your family for what you did.

And

if my friends had not been standing there with me, I don't think they would ever believe it would have happened in Manhattan.

And for the next week, friends of mine would take turns walking me from home to work and back.

I was in my neighborhood bar, which I'd been a hundred times.

And

we all drank a lot more.

I'll tell you that.

After 9-11, we all, that's all we did all day.

We just had no idea what to do.

And the neighborhood bar said, look, man, I hate to do this, but some people are getting uncomfortable.

And would you mind leaving?

And

I said, I get it.

They're scared.

I'm scared.

And I left.

And I thought, this is going to be a different experience that I've ever had in America.

And it was funny.

It's so bizarre because you are an American.

You are doing the same,

you're grieving the same way we are.

And a friend of mine, a very good friend, Garth, first guy I ever met in university, died in Tower 1.

And I know this because I saw a photo of him on the wall at Grand Central saying missing.

And until then, I didn't know he was there.

He was there for a meeting.

And so the grief was actually someone I know is gone.

We can't find him.

And I think it was so primal.

It became so primal.

You know, it was war, it was life, it was death.

And it was just a very strange thing to have that rage directed at you.

And it changed my life.

It changed the way I see when people are angry and upset, that it's not about me.

It's about something else.

And so what is that other thing?

And that sort of changed a way I look at the world now after 9-11 is that things can happen and change the way you're perceived in a moment, but it's not about you.

And so figuring out how to rehumanize yourself, which is why I do what I'm doing now these days, is really key to me because it's so easy to become another.

And I think it's a really, really empowering thing to say, no, I'm not the other.

I'm this.

And so those weeks were tricky.

I was on the rubbish pile, the, the, the, whatever we're going to call it, the next day handing up meals to the rescue workers.

Um,

all of work stopped.

And we just went and tried and help what we could feed rescue workers, cheer them as they went down, cheer them as they came back.

It was weird, wasn't it?

It was so, but we would always applaud the firemen.

It's so strange.

Tanya and I were alone when we went, and

we stood there alone on the street, and these firemen, these rescue workers came out, and they just looked so tired and so, you know, what they looked like.

And they were walking away from the pit.

And

Tanya and I didn't know what to do.

We just, both of us all of a sudden just started clapping like it was a parade.

It felt right to do that.

It felt very much like

what you've done is heroic and you deserve to know that.

And thank you is not enough.

Yes.

And we would stand in crowds on Westside Highway, cheering the fire trucks as they went down and cheering them back.

Like, what could you do as a human being to help?

I feel like everyone tried to do.

And so there was a, I saw the worst of people and I saw the absolute best of people.

The kindness and openness and the us of it, you know, community was amazing.

But it is a moment that changed the trajectory of my life, practically and in many other ways.

But I think it changed the trajectory of everyone.

All of ours.

Yeah.

I mean, literally, literally, it changed the trajectory of the world.

As it should,

Riaz, thank you for being my friend.

Thanks for being here today.

Even though I'm a sleeper cell, I'm a coma cell.

I'm a coma cell.

I mean, never wake up.

There's a cell so sleepy, I have no idea what my actual mission is.

I just go through life.

They don't even send you a message.

Maybe the comment Riaz.

He's not going to do anything anyway.

Lovely being here.

Always good to talk to you guys.

Jason, thank you for your service at that time.

When you were on the battlefield, do you know that smell that we were talking about?

Absolutely.

You do, yeah.

I think it's the closest I've ever felt to what you would have experienced in war, is that smell, that panic, that running.

And I have a lot of appreciation and respect for people who walk into the war.

We didn't have a traumatic experience.

You know, you go to war, you're killing people, they're killing, your friends are dying.

That's pretty traumatic.

And I can't, it kind of gives me

a very small appreciation of PTSD

because

you could have that memory.

You could see something and it would trigger and it would become so real, you could smell it again.

That smell is specifically, you mentioned PTSD.

That's something that no matter how you come across it, whether it was in your experience or yes, or in a soldier's, you never lose it.

And it's something that can get triggered again.

Like, I don't know if if you've come across this before, but that you can get triggered by just smelling that.

I have, I see, I haven't smelled it.

I haven't either.

And I've, I've lost the smell.

I've lost, here's what I've lost.

I used to see pictures of it, or I used to even just think of it, and I could smell it.

You know what I mean?

I can't smell it anymore, but I would recognize it the minute I smell it.

I can still smell it, but I can't imagine where I would ever smell that again.

God forbid I ever.

But it is, I still remember it.

This is the only guys that I've ever talked to that.

I've said that to people before, and they were like, Really?

Yeah.

Because it was the constant, whether you could see it or not see it, whether you were walking towards it or away from it, it was that smell.

Yeah, you could not escape.

Yeah.

Thank you so much.

We have one more story that we're going to share in hour number three from Bob Beckwith.

He is the guy who was on the fire truck with George W.

Bush.

He did an interview with him just a few days ago that

it's going to change the way you remember that moment.

It's the most incredible story you've heard, and I can't believe I haven't heard it before.

Bob Beckwith joins us, hour number three.

Don't miss it.

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When I was a

teenager, my mother died.

Right after that, my grandfather died.

And then I moved away from home

and I learned

not to deal with things.

As a recovering alcoholic, I have dealt with many of my demons, but one

I have not been able to shake

to my shame

has been

hide from those who you love

that you are losing or have lost

and move on.

Last night I went home and I was just so beat-tired,

and the phone rang,

and it was a

wife of a dear friend

who has cancer,

and they didn't know if he would make it

through the night.

He's battled cancer for years.

He is a spiritual giant.

For the last few weeks, I have wanted to be there with everything in me,

and

everything in me

at the same time has

told me to stay away, or tomorrow.

I drove to his house last night, and I my legs were like lead as I walked up his pathway to his house, hand in hand with my wife.

I went into his bedroom.

His eyes opened, and

he saw me and

tried to smile, tried to speak, but couldn't.

I knelt by his bedside last night, holding his hand.

I am a

as you can imagine, I'm sometimes a sloppy crier.

Sometimes I get, and I think we've all had this, where

it's that ugly cry to where if you speak, you're going to blow snot all over yourself, and it's just going to be ugly.

I held his frail hand

and for twenty minutes I said nothing because I was unable to speak.

He was

so weak

and all I could think of

was you cannot leave here

without saying this.

It was nine words.

For twenty minutes, I struggled to say nine

words.

I thought he was sleeping,

and I had composed myself enough to where I thought I could get those nine words out,

and I did

first the first four,

and then the remaining five.

He moaned

and he squeezed my hand as tightly as he could.

It took him about five minutes

as he

breathed.

deeply

to respond and say

the three words he needed to say

They were the three words

that mean everything.

This morning I got up and I started looking at the news.

I started reading the stories in a world that is teaching us that words are meaningless,

or have

or have for power purposes.

Words' meanings have been changed,

or those words have been thrown around so much they have become meaningless.

But before I begin this hour,

I want to tell you

words have power.

They have the power to create

the power lift up

or the power to destroy

While the world may teach our children that words are meaningless,

I want you to know that they are not.

I know the

I know the power of words,

and I know them today

better than most.

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All right.

We have a fascinating

person I want to introduce you to.

Her name is Heather McDonald, and she is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and she's written for just about everybody.

And she's seen something that she finds really disturbing, and she's put it together in a new book called The Diversity Delusion: How Race and Gender Pandering Corrupt the University and Undermine Our Culture.

And it is what we're all feeling now.

And it's appropriate that you're here today because it's all about words having meaning.

Hello, Heather.

How are you?

Well, thanks for having me on, Glenn.

I greatly appreciate it.

Sure.

So,

you know, I've just, my book comes out next week, and it really revolves around the idea of postmodernism that most people don't even understand.

And it's what's being spoon-fed to our children in universities.

And they come home and they speak a different language, and we're just like, ah, that's crazy.

But it's not.

It's really powerful.

Can you get into

how you define it and what you're seeing?

Well, that's absolutely right, what you're saying, Glenn.

The public has had a tendency to laugh off the counterintuitive, counterfactual, delusional ideology that's coming out of the universities that holds that there's no differences between males and females, that America is endemically racist and sexist, that any differences in representation in groups must be the result of bias rather than different inclinations, different habits.

And they've tended to think, ah, it's just those silly college students.

Once they get out into the real world, they'll stiffen up their spines and

the marketplace will take care of things.

That's not happening.

The delusional ideology that believes that racism and sexism are the most pervasive features of American society, that society is,

and college campuses in particular, but society in general, is divided into victim groups, their oppressors, and then

if you work really hard to get out of the oppressor category, you get to be an ally.

That is transforming the world at large.

We see trigger-happy reactions to any unorthodox speech.

Google fired a computer engineer who dared to challenge the dominant feminist ideology at that company.

Other Silicon Valley companies are obviously likewise under the thrall of feminism and

sort of the diversity thinking.

So this is happening very quickly, and it is worth the public's while to pay attention to what's happening and to start pushing back against this narrative.

So I want to talk to you about that, Heather, because

there hasn't really been an effective dismantling of this tool because it makes no sense.

Its purpose is to destroy language, families, people, self, you know, everything, absolutely everything, reality is destroyed under this.

And because it's so nonsensical,

it has built this,

I don't even know what it is, but a way for

reason to be dismissed because reason is part of the problem.

So how do you dismantle this?

By pointing out the facts, but you're absolutely right to be sort of apocalyptic in your rhetoric.

This is very profound.

We are playing with the legacy of the Enlightenment, of reason, of science.

Science is now coming under enormous pressure from the National Science Foundation no less to hire by race and gender instead of merit.

We are putting our scientific competitive edge at risk.

What I do is simply point out the facts.

I start with the college campuses.

The conceit is that to be a female, let's say, on a college campus today is to be the target of lethal threat.

This is absurd.

There has never been a more tolerant, compassionate environment in human history for society's traditionally oppressed groups than a college campus.

As far as race goes, and I have never been discriminated in my life as a female.

I was at Yale in the 1970s right after it went coeducation,

co-ed.

If ever there would have been a time when Yale was discriminating against females, it would have been then.

Not a chance.

Every professor I ever had wanted me to succeed.

We also hear that colleges pose a lethal threat to minorities, that they are hostile to people of color.

The reality is this, Glenn.

There is not a single college campus today whose administrators are not twisting themselves into knots to try and hire and admit as many underrepresented minorities as possible.

They employ vast racial preferences and admissions to try to bring in blacks and Hispanics.

This is a misguided policy.

It's extraordinarily destructive to its alleged beneficiaries, but they insist on doing it.

So we have an environment that's a test case.

It is demonstrably false to say that these are racist, sexist environments.

And yet there's a massive diversity bureaucracy on all large college campuses today costing

millions and millions of taxpayer dollars and tuition dollars devoted to indoctrinating students into this narcissistic ideology of victimhood.

The university campus is a threat, but it is, I believe, only a threat.

And by design, and people need to understand this.

This is not hyperbole.

It is designed to take apart the Western world.

It is by design taking apart everything that the Enlightenment gave us.

And what the Enlightenment gave us was a way out of the Dark Ages.

It's why they can say that math is racist.

Again, I applaud, Glenn, your sense of urgency.

You're the only person I've encountered that is willing to say what is at stake because, frankly, it sounds unhinged.

You know, a university, the university's duty is to serve as the transmission belt for our precious inheritance.

Who would think that the people who are the faculty who are so privileged to be the bearers of this inheritance, they should be down on their knees in gratitude to be the curators of greatness, beauty, and sublimity.

Instead,

they dismiss it, they disparage it.

I was

the subject of one of these massive violent silencing efforts at Claremont McKenna College in Southern California two years ago to prevent me from speaking about the police.

And afterwards,

black students at Pomona College, another of the Claremont colleges, wrote a manifesto against me that I quote in my book that is just a stunning example of student ignorance.

It purports to talk about the Enlightenment.

It purports to argue through a sort of

an inept version of high theory of Foucaultian postmodernism that you're so aware of.

Yes.

To argue that the Enlightenment is the source of oppression.

They say that the search for truth is a way of oppressing minorities.

The thinking is so unbelievably garbled, and yet they're picking this up from their professors.

Okay, so Heather, could you hold on?

Can you stay with us a few more minutes?

I have a 10.30 interview.

Oh, shoot.

Well, then,

could we have you back?

You're on Eastern time.

Could we have you back?

I'm sorry we started so late, but she's on to it.

We'll continue this conversation when we come back.

I feel badly that I short-changed Heather McDonald.

Her book is

The Diversity Delusion, How Race and Gender Pandering Corrupt the University and Undermine Our Culture.

We're going to have her back.

In fact, I'll bring her in for

a podcast or an interview.

Listen, just listen to who she has endorsing this book.

Jordan Peterson, Steven Pinker, Charles Murray, Christina Hoff Summers, and Peggy Noonan.

That's not a bad grouping.

I think that one's a pretty big one.

No, that's great.

Yeah.

She's right on the money.

And please pick up her book.

It's a great grouping to go a little bit deeper, perhaps,

on where my book is going to be taking you.

So grab it.

The diversity delusion, also addicted to outrage, which comes out next week.

What she's talking about here is

the most important thing that we could possibly talk about.

I've been asking myself for a while

what matters most.

What matters most?

And

the answer is different depending on

in what realm, in my family realm, my family, my children, my wife.

In my

spiritual realm, doing the things that I'm supposed to do, doing the things that I know I'm supposed to do,

read my scriptures and serve other people.

In work, being a good steward, trying to do things, you know, the best of my ability, trying to make a good workplace that's good to people, that's good for people, and creates something that you, you know, find value in.

When it comes to saving the country,

I will tell you what doesn't have value.

Arguing about the president doesn't have any value.

Really doesn't.

Because if it's not Donald Trump, it will be Mike Pence.

It doesn't matter.

Remember, the GOP offered up the nicest guy

I've ever met, I think.

Mitt Romney, even though I disagree with him, and I think he probably comes as close to hate as Mitt Romney could ever come to, which is, I just really dislike the things Glenn does.

That guy, remember, he was the Antichrist.

He was an animal torturer.

So it doesn't matter who it is.

It doesn't matter.

That's not the problem.

And the problem is if I asked you, Stu,

let's destroy the culture.

Or let's destroy the West.

And let's bring America and all of the Western civilization down to its knees.

How would you do it?

It's a pretty big task, right?

A very difficult task.

They almost did it.

They almost did it in the 1960s, but it failed at the last minute.

Why did it fail?

I don't know.

The average American's desire to go back to things that were, you know, traditional and normal.

People don't like chaos.

They do.

The murders, the assassinations, the burning of cities.

Bombings.

The bombings.

They don't like all that.

They don't want all that.

Okay.

So

what happened?

They looked at both sides of the equation, right?

And picked the

stability.

And they could look at both sides of the equation because at that point, we were still doing NASA.

We were still going to the moon.

It was the government.

Yeah, you can't trust the government because we're in Vietnam.

but look also at what we're doing.

Look at some of the things that we're doing.

Remember, at the time it was don't trust anyone over 30.

Well, you know, it's those same hippies that used to say that then, they're all in their 60s and 70s, and they're not saying that anymore.

They're the ones going to 18-year-olds going, oh, no, no, you can trust us.

Just don't trust the other people.

But it used to be, don't trust anyone over 30.

So they tried to do it, but they couldn't seal the deal because really the only thing they had was culture and not all of it, but they had music.

But they lost the Beatles in 1968.

They lost the Beatles.

The Beatles sing in Revolution, you know, if you're going to walk around with carrying signs of Chairman Mao, we want to change your head.

So they lose

Altamont.

Altamont, the Rolling Stones are on stage.

And what happens at Altamont?

All of these bikers who are supposedly the police,

stabbings start to go on in the middle of the concert.

Nobody wants this.

Nobody wants the bombings.

Nobody wants revolution and a communist party.

So they have to regroup.

We can't just do this with culture.

We need the media.

We need culture.

You know, we got to

John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda and those guys, they got to die.

We need a new class of people and we need to stop all of those people like them from getting into this business.

We need total control of the culture.

We need the institutions.

And we need to discredit the institutions.

We not only need to be in them, but we also need to discredit them.

We need the universities.

We need to dismantle history, and that includes traditions and myths,

the national myth or tradition of there's something special about America.

That is something that we all believe,

or used to.

We don't now.

Why?

How did these things change?

It's called postmodernism.

And it is everything that you've ever heard that that you've made fun of.

Everything, it's the gobbledygook that you listen to and you're like, that doesn't shut up.

Shut up.

And as Heather was saying, it's the stuff that

we all thought, well, this is just going to pass because they'll get out into the real world.

No, no, they're going to get out into the real world and they are going to change the real world.

Because it's, it's, believe it or not, it's a lot easier to be a victim in the short run.

It's a lot better to blame your failure on somebody else than blame it on you.

And if you can blame it on the system, on that guy, this person, this institution, the way you were raised, the money you didn't get, the banks that whatever,

you can always find somebody that is oppressing you.

And it's pretty easy for a while.

I know this because I'm an alcoholic.

I'm a recovering alcoholic.

And the reason why I'm recovering is because, at some point, that addiction

becomes unlivable.

Because at some point, you're like, I can't do this anymore.

It'll be death.

But here's the secret of postmodernism.

Death is what they're rooting for.

It is.

It is honestly the

only thing that I like like

progressivism

I can see progressivism and say okay well there's you know philosophies around progressivism that I think are really evil like you know eugenics but even in eugenics if you didn't know at the time what that was going to be what that was going to lead to you could say okay well I understand it was a time

You know, if you still believe in that stuff, okay, that's a little spooky.

But postmodernism is the only thing that I have ever encountered that I cannot think of a constructive use for it.

Because its whole design

is to collapse the Western way of thinking.

And what is critical to understand is

what is the Western way?

The Western way of thinking.

What built the West?

What freed and cured so many diseases and freed so many people.

And yes, it's got its problems.

It was not the capitalist system.

It was the Enlightenment.

It was fixing reason firmly in her seat and questioning everything with boldness.

Even, now think of this, at the time, there is the one thing that throughout the Dark Ages you could not question

because it was beyond politically incorrect.

It was a death sentence.

So Thomas Jefferson wrote, fix reason firmly in her seat and question with boldness even

the very existence of God.

Today, that would be question with boldness, even

the university system.

Even hashtag me too.

Even those who say they will crush you for your questioning.

because postmodernism needs you to stop questioning

they need to tangle you up into so many different words and so many different things that you're like okay well I guess maybe

no

no do not go over the cliff with the rest of humanity no

how many genders are there two

when science can show me science

can show me

and prove to me

that there are more than two genders, male and female, I will add that one

or that two or that 183 when science shows me.

But by detaching from science, I am destroying everything.

If there is no reason, if there is no truth,

well then

it's only who's in power that gets to decide what's right and wrong.

It's why now people on the left are starting to panic.

Democrats and people who are on the left that are in the university system have such urgency and they're starting to panic because they've always been there.

They've been there.

They've been there.

They're the warrior for the left.

They've carried all the water.

And now all of a sudden, because they will not tow the line, because it now crosses into their territory of science,

they are now being told, you're an enemy.

And they realize, holy, if they're going to come after me, somebody who's been here the whole time,

we're all dead.

And they realize it's not socialism we're arguing about.

It is

communism or a totalitarian state.

Coincidentally, that is the goal

of postmodernism.

I should say this: postmodernism's goal is to destroy the hierarchy.

To destroy, now think of that.

The hierarchy.

That's a pyramid.

Who's at the top of our pyramid?

Moses and Jesus.

Top of our pyramid is be a better person.

They're putting it and reversing it.

And they're destroying everything that Jesus and Moses taught.

That doesn't work.

That doesn't work.

And they will tell you that the only reason why I'm saying this is because I support the hierarchy or I support the patriarchy.

And I am oppressing you because I'm hypnotizing you.

Don't go over the cliff.

You must know this information so when your kids begin to speak this, they do not dismiss you as someone who just doesn't know.

Yes, I do.

Yes, I do.

I know.

Let's have a sit down.

Let's talk about postmodernism, kids.

Let's tell me what you're learning.

I'll tell you what I think about it.

But as somebody who has raised you for 18 years, you owe me the respect to listen to what I have to say.

And you're going to get so bogged down into gobbledygook, you're going to get frustrated with me and say, Oh, you just don't know.

No, we're going to make an agreement going in.

Do you believe in reason?

If you don't,

well

then I guess we need to find some chemo treatment because you may already be too far gone.

The book is out next week.

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Have we?

Yeah, and it's been restored.

It's video from a camera guy who just happened to be down by.

How has this not been out?

Well, you know, some of it had been out.

The whole thing hadn't been out, and then they restored it.

And I mean, it's intense to watch.

The guy's just walking around with a camera all around 9-11.

He's, you know, a couple of minutes before the whole thing collapses, he's right under the tower.

Else, we have Bob Beckwith.

He is the guy, the fireman, that stood next to George W.

Bush during the famous Bullhorn speech.

We're going to talk to him,

and you won't believe his story.

He will change everything you thought was happening that day.

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Bob Beckwith joins us next.

The country has been pushed to the limit.

Our political bonds have been torn apart.

We need a true leader who can save us from from certain doom.

Unfortunately, we could only find this guy.

Hey, it's Glenn Beck.

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Glenn Beck.

It's Tuesday, September 11th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

The picture seared in the nation's memory.

President Bush at Ground Zero, three days after the attacks.

A bullhorn in one hand, the other draped around firefighter Bob Beckwith.

Firefighter with President Bush was Bob Beckwith.

Beckwith stood shoulder to shoulder with President Bob Beckwith, a firefighter from Queens, New York, in his mid-60s.

That day, he stood alongside the president and stepped onto the national patriotic stage.

Bob, are you there?

Yes.

Hi, Bob.

How are you?

Very good.

And yourself?

I'm very good, sir.

Very good.

I just wanted to touch base with you

your experiences with 9-11, because I painted a painting of you a couple of weeks ago for an auction.

And as I was painting you, I thought,

you know, I I know this man's story, but not really.

And now that you've had, you know, almost 20 years to digest it, I'd love to hear, first of all, where were you on 9-11 when it happened?

When it happened,

my daughter had called me that my grandson, going to school on his bicycle, was hit by a car.

about two blocks away from me.

And I ran over there to see what was happening and and I saw him on the ground, but he was moving, so that was a plus.

And I found out from the ambulance driver what hospital they were taking him to.

And I came home to get my car.

I listened on the radio, and it said I heard a guy saying...

I said that a plane has crashed into the World Trade Center.

We don't know anything about it.

And so I came inside, and my wife had it on the television already, and they had cameras there.

I was looking, and I said, that's a little bit bigger than a small plane.

I figured I got a bad day going.

My grandson got hit by a car and now a plane goes in.

Where were you living at the time, Bob?

I was living right here in Baldwin, New York.

When did the phone call come in that you had to go?

Were you with your grandson in the hospital?

When did you start?

So I went to the hospital to be with him.

Everybody was watching television at the hospital.

And I saw the South Tower come down.

Oh, my God.

One World Trade Center has collapsed in its entirety.

One World Trade Center is gone.

And then a few minutes later,

the North Tower came down.

The other tower just collapsed.

Way to collapse.

And I knew that there were guys in the building, you know, because the firemen were in there.

You know what goes through your head when

it just hits you pretty hard.

Bob,

did you have any inkling that those towers might come down when you saw them?

I really honestly never thought that they were coming down.

Boy, was I shocked when that happened.

So

when did you first arrive at Ground Zero?

What happened was

I came home

from the hospital later that day.

And I told my wife and my kids that I'm going down to Ground Zero.

And they said, don't go down.

You're too well.

I was 69 years old and they thought I was an old man there and I'm gonna get in the way so just don't go down there the next day I find out that Jimmy Boyle now Jimmy Boyle was the the president of the UFA the uniformed firefighters association and I was one of his delegates And when I found out his son is missing, I said, that's it, I'm out of here.

And I suited up the next morning and I got to go down to Ground Zero.

So I'm driving down there.

I'm on a BQE, the Brooklyn Queens Expressway, and I'm going towards the Williamsburg Bridge.

Guess what?

The bridges are closed.

And I saw a cops car going over the bridge with two vans behind it.

I said, I'm going to give it a shot.

And I drove between the cones and I went on the bridge.

But when I got over to the other side, there was nobody, nobody was there.

Everything was gray.

And I went over to the house watch at 55 Engine.

And I told him I'm going down to Ground Zero.

And they said, well, good luck.

I said, what the heck is that good luck about?

Anyway, the police department,

they're lined up on a perimeter all around Ground Zero.

I said, I got to get in there, you know.

And I showed them my badge, and they let me in.

And then the guy said to me, good luck.

So I went down about a block or two, and then I see the National Guard.

They were on the perimeter, also.

And I said, We don't care that you're a fireman, but you're not getting in.

So I had to think fast.

And I talked my way in.

You know, I was at that perimeter.

I don't know how anyone could have talked themselves through that line.

How did you do it?

I told a little friend there.

I told them I missed the rig, and I was going to get in trouble if I didn't get in there.

And they bought it.

Wow.

Wow.

Okay.

So

you're there.

You snuck across the bridge on the island.

Then you you uh you sneak across the uh barrier with National Guard.

Right.

And then what happens?

And then I came into ground zero, and I tell you, it was a shock.

Yeah, you can see the people running fast as these buildings began to be.

One of the buildings is fortunately collapsed.

It remains that as yet unidentified survivors will be found in underground.

The first thing that came to my mind was, since it's how it probably looked in the blitz when...

Yeah.

Wow.

You know what happened?

I worked down there all that day and I went on the bucket brigade and I found a shovel and I started digging with the guys and

we found a pumper.

A pumper is a fire engine in the rubble.

And we told the crane operator to put the

rig out on this in the street, which he did.

Some guy comes over and he he says the president is here

and I saw the guys put their shovel down and I put mine down and I walked out to the street and there's that pumper we just dug out of the rubble

I jumped up on it and right across the street was a command post of a tent with all microphones in front of it I figured oh that's where the president's gonna talk

This Secret Service man came over to me and he said, is this safe?

I said, yeah.

And he said, well, jump up and down on it for me.

So I jumped up and down on it for him.

And he said, okay, he said, somebody important is coming over here.

And when they come over here, you help them up and then you get down.

I said, okay.

Because you do what the Secret Service guy tells you to do.

The president comes around and he does a hard ride and he comes right in front of me and he puts his arm up.

So I pull him up.

And I turn him around and I said to him, are you okay, Mr.

President?

He said, yeah.

And then I started to get down.

He said, Where are you going?

I said, I was told to get down.

He said, No, no, you stay right here.

And he put his arm around me and that's my story.

That's unbelievable.

I didn't know

I didn't know any of those things.

What did the president say to you at one point, do you even remember, when he turned to you in the middle of the speech and he said some things to you?

Do you remember?

No, he we couldn't hear.

We couldn't hear each other.

We did speak to each other, but we didn't hear each other.

It was too loud.

The guys

were yelling.

I didn't remember him having that megaphone, the bullhorn.

Really?

And then he started to speak, and he's speaking to the right, and the guys on the left, they're yelling, We can't hear you.

And then he turned to the left with the bullhorn, and he said, I can hear you.

And the whole world hears you.

And the people who knock these buildings down will hear all of us soon.

They went crazy.

They went nuts.

They started chanting USA, USA, USA.

And it was, he said everything in those three sentences.

So, Bob,

you were given

a flag right after his visit, right?

Yes.

When I was helping him get down from the rig,

somebody handed him the flag,

and he puts his arm up and he waves the flag.

I saw Governor Pataki standing there so I tapped him on the shoulder and he turns around and he grabs my legs and he picks me up and he puts me out in the street.

I said, you're going to hurt yourself.

He said, I'm a big guy.

I said, okay.

I'm walking back to go back to work.

And this Secret Service guy taps me on the shoulder and he said, the president's been looking for you.

I said, oh, no, what did I do?

And he said, he wants you to have this flag.

I said, oh, very nice.

Thank you.

And I stuck it in my pocket, and I'm going back to work.

Anyway, Glenn, the Secret Service guy that told me when the politician comes over there and takes my spot to get down, when I went on television, I would tell them my story.

And I got a letter from the White House.

I'm the guy that told you what to do.

Thank you for calling me a Secret Service guy,

and he signs it.

Carl Rove, senior advisor to the president.

Oh, my gosh.

Yes, exactly.

That's what I said.

So let me ask you this, because the day before,

your family was saying you're just going to get in the way.

When you got home after sneaking across the bridge, sneaking past the National Guard, working, then the president.

is giving one of the most memorable speeches probably since the day of infamy.

What did your family say?

I drove over and I said, who's going to believe that I was with the president?

There were no cameras down there, Glenn.

No cameras at all that I saw.

Anyway, I pull up in front of my house and people are coming out, my neighbors, and they're all carrying the candles.

That was the day they had candles.

And they came into my driveway and

this police officer across the street from me, a city cop, and he said to me, Beck, you're right,

you're on television.

I said, get out of here.

There's no, there were no cameras down there.

So I came in the house, and my granddaughter was sitting on a couch, and she says, Grandpa,

you're on television.

And they were showing it over and over.

I said, Wow, I was surprised

that they had me, and the president, who was the most important thing.

Yeah.

You stayed in touch with the president?

We did.

We still keep in touch.

Myself and my wife and a couple of my kids, we were invited to the Oval Office.

And it was very nice.

Everybody was there.

You know, Governor Pataki, Karl Rove was there.

Mayor Giuliani, Tommy Von Essen, the Commissioner, and Chuck Schumer.

You've had some special experiences because of that picture.

Yes, we were called into,

excuse me,

Germany three times and then twice in Cologne,

and that

really treated top shelf.

So Bob, when you look back at this now,

what is it that you take away?

What is it that we should as a people take away from that moment on the fire truck?

You know what, Glenn?

We fought two wars.

We fought the Japanese and we fought the Germans and we stuck together and that's the same thing that happened at

9-11.

People came in from every state to help us.

Search and rescue and

the food.

I was there, Bob, and I saw people come from all over the country to feed you guys.

And my wife and I went.

These firemen were coming out after a long day.

And

both of us just started to applaud.

Like, I don't know.

It was just, it was, everything was upside down, and the enormity of it was just remarkable.

Yes,

it really was.

But we stuck together, and

we received rigs that we lost in it.

And other states helped.

They built the rigs and sent them to us.

You know, this is America, and people are great.

They really are.

Bob,

it's an honor to talk to you.

It really is.

I made a painting for charity, and I was wondering if you would be willing to sign it if I sent it up to you.

Would you be willing to sign it?

Of course.

That would be great.

It would be great.

Bob, thank you so much.

God bless you.

God bless you, Glenn.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

I love that message.

In the end, the people of America are great.

They really are great.

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Were we going to get a chance to play any of that George H.W.

Bush interview that we did?

Stu and I went up,

doesn't it feel like we were 12?

Yeah,

we look like it too.

Stupidly, God.

How long has it been?

It's been 16 years.

Well, if I judge by the pictures, it's been about 60.

Yes.

Well, it has been.

In news or dog years, it has been 60 years.

But

we went up to Kenny Bunkport

to

meet with George H.W.

Bush on September, it was for the anniversary of September 11th, 2002.

And

I mean, it's weird just to even listen to him now.

You've forgotten what he sounded like back in the day.

Do you have one clip we can play?

Let me play a couple clips here.

Yeah, go ahead.

Let's do the first one.

This is about him talking about

how long it took for the attack to sink in.

It took a while for me

to profoundly understand

the seriousness of what had happened.

I mean, obviously, like most people, I first wondered, well, could this be a strange coincidence of two planes going into the towers and quickly discarded that theory.

But I think it was several hours after it happened that I realized that this was a

coordinated

attack on America and on the civilized world, really.

But it took a while to sink in.

We had not been attacked on our own shores like this.

Hawaii, yes,

for Pearl Harbor.

But I don't believe Hawaii was a state then.

And so this was the first time, and this was hitting innocent civilians, all civilians, in

New York City.

He also talked about his son's faith a bit.

Listen.

But on September 11th,

the country saw what I have known all along and what Barbara's known all along, and I guess what the voters of Texas had known all along, or he would not have been re-elected, the governor of the

second biggest state in the nation by 70% of the vote.

So I think this idea, well, he's a new man,

maybe this strength lifted by his faith.

determination

hadn't been clear to the American people, but it certainly was

as the horror of September 11th unfolded.

You asked my wife Barbara about it or you asked me about it.

We would tell you

that we have felt his strength and his determination for a long, long time.

He remembered the thing that I took away from it the same way.

Listen.

Well, I think on September 12th,

the country came together

as it did

on December 7th and December 8th.

December 7th and 8th, everybody wanted to fight for the country.

I mean, all us kids.

It didn't matter what we thought about whether we save American boys from going overseas or should we go into college.

Everyone wanted to serve.

On September 12th, I think the country was very, very unified.

I think there's been a flaking off to some some degree, not a lot.

It depends how you phrase the question.

But there's been a little kind of not quite as many flags flying, not quite as many prayers being offered.

And maybe that's to be expected as time goes by.

But I really believe that the President

motivated America.

in a wonderful way

when he talked to the nation right after the September 11th.

And I think that spirit that he sensed, that all of us sense, is still there.

I want to pick it up there when we come back.

The flaking off of the spirit we had on 9-12.

Next.

Welcome to the program.

Glad you're here.

I want to talk to you a little bit about this experience that we had looking at the the pictures.

We went up to meet George H.W.

Bush.

This is right after 9-11, a year.

Right.

Year anniversary of 9-11.

And we look like we're 12.

Well, Stu looks like he's 12.

Shut up.

No, I mean, you look a lot younger.

Okay.

What happened?

Yeah.

News.

That's what happened.

News.

Stu and I were talking yesterday about how Fox, first time I've heard you say this, took years off of our life.

Just took years off of our life.

Did you?

I mean,

that was just a fun time.

That's a good time, but it was a really hard time.

Oh, my gosh.

It was so hard.

So hard.

Anyway,

in that interview with George H.W.

Bush, he came to the same conclusion I think we all had.

And that is 9-12 is such an amazing day, the day after 9-11, because that's who we are.

Still believe that's who we are?

Not really.

Doesn't seem like we're there now.

It doesn't seem like that's who we are now to me.

It strikes me as because I think it's who we want to be, and it's the best of us.

I think both of those things can be said.

We really did come together, but it's like

clearly we're not there.

We're not that people right now.

But I don't know if.

Could we get back to that?

I hope so, but we're not there.

I think we may have the opportunity unfortunately to see on thursday

as this

oh i haven't told you about thursday yet i guess i should we should make the announcement of no the hurricane oh you looked at me like do you know something that we saw i think we saw it with harvey yeah we did i mean we did yeah you know and um and we have that opportunity you know if you were part of the 9-12 project

did did you did you disband because

you viewed it as a tea party thing because it was never a tea party thing.

The 9-12 project was different than the tea party.

The 9-12 project was about principles and values and getting together in your community and being your best self.

I don't know that they disbanded.

I mean, they're still doing good work.

No, they're still doing good work.

Yeah, some people are.

Yeah.

But if you left, why?

And...

You know, you want to do something?

You want to relive that this Thursday?

Hurricane's coming on shore, and we could use your help.

And we're already sending people out through Mercury One, which is kind of where I took my 9-12 kind of spirit.

And Mercury One is going to be there on Thursday.

So as soon as that thing calms down some, we will be there with food and supplies and everything else.

We could use your help with donations at mercury1.org.

That's mercury1.org.

In the spirit of 9-12,

let's gather again together and do something together, even even if it's just

on the internet, mercury1.org.

Everybody came together for Houston last year.

I'm sure they'll do it again for North Carolina.

It was amazing.

Wherever that hits.

It was amazing.

I'm not as big a fan of coming together in charity as I am just being really outraged about stuff.

Really, you like the internet and just finding things to be outraged about.

Yeah.

You know, just be furious.

What have you found today?

Oh, my gosh.

There's always something to find.

Pat, you had something.

Can I tell you something?

I can't believe that they named this hurricane Florence.

I mean, a woman.

A woman.

A woman is not an oppressor.

Ask Serena Williams.

They would never do that to a man.

They would never name a hurricane after a man.

Serena is all about women's rights.

Right.

That's why I'm pissed.

Right.

Because she is women's rights.

She's out there playing tennis and making millions of dollars.

It's not about millions of dollars.

No, it's not about supporting women.

So, I mean, unless

you're Clarence Thomas' wife, then you can be an oppressor.

Or if

you're, you know,

I don't know, Condoleezza Rice, then you're an oppressor.

But Florence?

Wow.

Not an oppressor.

Not an oppressor.

No.

I'm outraged.

Thank you for reminding me what really matters.

What do you think?

I'm actually

outraged about Maxine Waters continuing to double down on all of her nonsense.

This one's pretty bad.

This is pretty bad.

Is this the one where she said impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach, and peach?

Yes.

Yes.

And she also said that

there are those who said we lacked civility when I got up and talked about the president's cabinet.

And I said, if you see him anywhere, if you see him at a restaurant, if you see him in a department store, even a gasoline station, just tell him you're not welcome here or anywhere.

And so it frightened a lot of people.

And of course, the lying president said that I threatened all of his constituents.

I did not threaten his constituents, his supporters.

I do that all the time, but I didn't do it at that time.

Oh, my God.

They tried to frame that as violence.

She admits it, that she does it all the time.

So, did you hear what happened to that town?

The press went away, and nobody's really followed up.

So, what happened to that little restaurant?

What was it?

The red hand in the little town?

Do you know?

No.

They are dying.

Are they?

They're dying.

They're begging for visitors to come to the town.

Nobody's coming to that.

They're a big tourist town.

Nobody's coming.

Wow.

They're dying on the vine because

they made people feel like they're not comfortable.

Well, you're not welcome.

You made them think that they're not welcome here or anywhere.

Yes.

So why go?

Why go if I'm not welcome there?

I'm not going to go.

I mean, can you imagine hassling every Trump supporter you see on the street?

I mean, you talk about the values of 9-12 and coming together as a nation.

That's as far away from that as you can possibly get.

right how do you rebuild and if in in reverse if we are going to do the reverse how how are we ever going to come together you can't you can't you can't you can't for people who say you know glenn i know you talk about reconciliation but we can't reconcile with everybody you're right we can't reconcile reconcile with everybody there are people that say no i want communism or i want anarchy or i want whatever

Okay, we can't reconcile with those people because

they've made up their mind.

However, that's not the majority of people.

Right.

And

if we don't make a safe haven, if we don't open our arms and say, hey, you're just starting to wake up.

You're just starting to see problems too with this.

I'm not going to judge you.

You don't judge me.

Let's just start talking.

Let's just start getting back together and talking.

Then we have a chance.

As agonizing as Jim Carrey was on Bill Maher the other night, and he was, it was hard to listen to.

He actually had one moment where he talked about coming together, where he said, look, I can sit down, though, and have a conversation and dinner with any Trump supporter.

I'm willing to, you know, talk to him and love them.

And so

maybe you could come together even with Jim Carrey.

So I don't know.

So it would be an interesting, it would be an interesting

test because I respect Jim Carrey.

I think Jim Carrey has gone through some sort of a metamorphosis where he is

he has gone beyond the celebrity, where

he's recognized that doesn't mean anything.

You know what I mean?

Which I think is really hard to do, and don't know a lot of people who have done it.

And

so I have a lot of respect for him on that.

However,

you know, he would probably say, oh, well, I couldn't talk to Glembeck because Glenn Beck, you know, look at what he's done.

And he's stirred up a bit.

Well, Jim,

how about your paintings?

How about your paintings?

We have to be able to.

It's a great test to see if you come on this show.

Put your money where your mouth is and show up on this show

and see if you can talk to anybody.

You just said you could.

I know I can.

Let's do it.

I know I can.

He's such an interesting guy, too.

We've talked about played.

He has these great moments of seemingly...

just being non-political and bringing people together.

And he seemingly has found faith in some way.

That time at the shelter for

gang members or whatever that was.

Amazing.

He had an incredible amazing amazing.

I think he's an amazing guy.

Yeah.

Let me ask you this.

On the reconciliation thing, it does not mean that you stop believing the things that you believe.

And it does not mean that you stop, that you don't, that you make excuses for someone on their behavior.

Or, you know, that you say, wait, well, what was happening there?

It just means you're honest about it.

And then you

recognize pivot points, or you don't.

And you say, okay, well, I appreciate you, but this is, you know, the little box that I kind of place you in because you are this or whatever.

It just means, can we come together?

It does not mean, do I support you or do I,

if you, if you are,

you know, in my case, if you are a total radical, I, I, I can't come together with you,

but I can sit down and talk to you.

An awkward setup because

it is the question that I've been asking myself for the last six months.

Van Jones says that he has gone through a metamorphosis.

Van Jones says that he

is different than the guy he was when he was in the Oval.

And I'm sure of it.

I'm sure of it.

I'm not sure what.

Does that mean he's no longer a communist revolutionary?

Yes.

It does?

Yes.

Okay.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure.

I know he's different than he was.

I don't know if he, I don't know if I buy into,

you know, well, I was a communist and now I'm not a communist.

And I don't know.

I don't know.

But I wouldn't know unless I spoke to him.

You want the ultimate test of two people who were at absolute odds and may still be.

Should I have a conversation with Van Jones?

Should Van Jones and I sit down

openly on air?

No fighting.

The rules would be: you got to be honest.

You got to be honest.

And

I will ask every question I've ever wanted to ask you.

You can ask every question you can, but there's no winning here.

There's just, let's talk as two adults

and see if we can do any healing, even if we disagree

with each other.

Wow.

That'd be pretty interesting.

That's some heavy.

I think he'd do it.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think he'd come in and do it.

He'd come on the air.

Worth.

I think a lot of people would be pissed.

At me?

Yeah.

Why?

For

allowing him the forum,

for trying even to reconcile with him?

Well, I wouldn't allow him the forum

to just lie.

I mean, you can lie all you want, but I'm not going to call you out on it.

I mean, you know, it'd be very uncomfortable if we're sitting here for 45 minutes and you're just lying.

I mean, it would, the ground rule would be that I don't want any talking points.

The minute you think I'm BSing you or you're BSing me, the other has to say it.

That's That's bullcrap.

Stop it.

Stop it.

Say something real.

It would be riveting, I think, to watch.

I mean, especially, you know,

it's a having a conversation with someone and asking them the questions that you've always wanted to ask them is not

some kumbaya moment, right?

It's a message.

Well, I'm not going to play kumbaya with a guy who wants to destroy America and is a communist.

I mean,

right.

No,

there was at least a time where that was, you know, well, that's who he was.

Who he was.

Who is he now?

I don't know who he is now.

He says he's not that man.

He says he's grown up.

That would be riveting.

I think you should do it.

You're the guy who just said everybody would hate me if I didn't.

I don't do it.

Not everybody.

Some people would be pissed.

Let me be kissed.

Well, then that sounds exactly like the thing I should do because that's usually what I do.

Piss everybody off.

He's piss everybody off.

Yeah.

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I mean, it's certainly changed in a lot of ways that are really significant.

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Stu was fat then.

Yeah.

This is a brilliant part.

I didn't really plan it at the time.

Yeah.

When I was like in my early to mid-20s, I was

fat.

And then you're September 11th.

You were fat.

Right, but I was fat.

I'm fat too now, but I'm thinner than I was then.

So they show the old pictures.

And while I look a lot older, I've actually thinned out a little bit.

Yeah.

This is a brilliant strategy.

Yeah.

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I went the other way when

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Okay.

So that hasn't worked.

Well, no.

I mean, I was fat and then I went on CNN and I was so afraid of being seen on TV being fat

that I lost like

really thin at this point.

Really thin.

Like scary thin.

Okay.

And then I got used to television.

I'm like, I don't care what people think.

Right.

And then I got fat.

And then

I got fatter.

And I got fatter because I was getting fat.

Right.

Like in depth.

I'm only depletion because I only eat because I'm fat.

It's a tough circle.

It's a really tough one to break.

It just keeps happening.

Damn, Arabs.

Wait.

September 11th.

How did that?

I don't know.

I don't know, but I need somebody to blame.

Okay, good.

We found somebody.

Damn.

Hey, we'll see you tonight, five o'clock on the Blaze TV.

Glenn, back.

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