'Showdowns and Temper Tantrums'? - 9/5/18

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Glenn back.

A goat rope.

Goat rope.

Also known as a confusing or disorganized situation.

If you're in the military or a veteran, it's either a goat rope or a cluster.

You know.

What a complete dumpster fire the Kavanaugh hearing was yesterday.

It was shameful and embarrassing.

This is the United States of America.

Senate Judiciary Committee chairperson Chuck Grassley got a few words into his opening statement before all the Democratic presidential hopefuls began ridiculously interrupting.

Listen just a little bit.

Good morning.

I welcome everyone to this confirmation hearing on the nomination of

Brett Kavanaugh

to serve as Associate Justice Mr.

Chairman I'd like to be recognized for a question before we proceed regular order

mr.

Chairman I'd like to be recognized to ask a question before we proceed the committee received just last night less than 15 hours ago 42,000 pages of documents that we have not had an opportunity to review or read or analyze you are out you're out of order I'll proceed we cannot possibly move forward mr.

Chairman I extend a very warm welcome.

I have not been given an opportunity to have a meeting.

You know what?

You don't even see this type of behavior in junior high school.

Here's senators like Carmella Harris, Corey Booker, Richard Blumenthal.

They were leading their own version of Occupy Wall Street, a mic check.

Mike check, mic check.

That's what was happening yesterday.

This is what's happening in our colleges and our universities.

You'll just go in and you'll you'll just hijack it.

Then, as if on cue, a handful of shrieks could be heard as a platoon of protesters led by Linda Sarsour began yelling and holding up signs in the back of the room.

Here's a little bit of what that sounded like: Linda Sarsour.

This is who the Democrats are idolizing?

Linda Sartour?

It was a total sideshow representing the absolute worst in American politics.

Politico reported that Democratic senators held a conference call on Labor Day to decide what kind of charade they wanted to do.

The first plan was to stage a massive walkout, but they ditched that plan, thinking it would play into the GOP's favor.

They eventually agreed that the shout-down, a tactic that you'll find basically at every leftist protest or riot.

Now we have elected officials mimicking groups like Occupy Wall Street within the halls of the Senate.

What's next?

Why don't we all just imitate and mimic Antifa?

And really,

for what?

Kavanaugh looks liberal compared to Gorsuch.

We never saw those fireworks at his hearing.

And the documents that that got dumped on him a few hours prior, seriously, now you're suddenly into reading what's put in front of you?

Is old and busted.

It's old and busted.

To say things like,

oh, I don't know, we have to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it.

What about the...

What about the 2,232 pages omnibus?

Did you read that before it was dropped on you just a few hours before you all voted on it?

I'm all for reading anything before making a decision, but don't suddenly start caring now when that's never been your policy before.

And the documents that they're so outraged, why are they being withholden?

Well, they know good and well that those documents will never and can never be released.

The papers are controlled by the Bush White House and are communications to the president.

No president, no president.

Let me say it again: no president has released those kinds of documents.

More information, you know, before making a big decision is always the preference.

But the Democrats have chosen to make these documents their rallying cry because they know there is no chance of anyone ever seeing them because no president has ever, ever released them.

This is a red herring.

It's a goat rope.

It's a cluster.

It's a clown car.

However, you want to describe it, it's a charade, a temper tantrum to draw attention.

Democrats just used the Kavanaugh hearings to play like the toddler who decided to lay down in the store kicking and screaming because mom and tad just would not buy them a toy.

Welcome to kindergarten.

Welcome to the United States Senate, circa 2018.

It's Wednesday, September 5th.

You're listening to the Glen Beck program.

You know, I have a lot to say on this, but I don't think it leads to anything good.

Except more outrage.

I mean,

I do want to say this.

The setup,

the setup of Kavanaugh, first of all, let's just be humans for a second.

Can we just be humans?

His children had to be removed from the hearing

of the most important thing that will probably, they'll ever experience in their lifetime.

How many of us have had a dad that was being considered to be a

Supreme justice how many times in history does that happen how what is the decorum of something like that in america shouldn't there be some decorum it's a pretty serious job and there but there's a trade-off that you have to consider you know if you're a corey booker or uh you know a kamala harris which is yes there's the terrified children but then there's also the sound clip that you get to run and see in the primary which says how opposed you really were yeah to Brett Kavanaugh.

And that is, I mean, that's forcing.

You know what is

it's not even, it's not even the Kamala Harris and the Corey Booker and all of that.

It is, why was that not cleared?

Why was that hearing room not cleared?

When you have to remove children.

Well, ask Chuck Grassley,

who made it very clear the problem with it was he didn't run the committee, right?

Grassley was actually a really funny clip because he's just like,

I've criticized other people for this before, and I have just, you know,

if you're not running the committee, then the committee is running itself, and we need to get this under control.

And he was saying that he didn't step up enough.

He didn't.

To his credit, he let everybody kind of do what they wanted to.

He wasn't trying to shut anyone down, which is not what you're going to hear from the media.

But he really didn't step in to stop the nonsense.

When you have to remove someone's children because they're too freaked out by it, That should tell you something, America.

It should tell you what we're, what, what are we turning into?

Now, we can be mad about this, but I'm going to explain why you should not be mad about this

because it plays directly into their hands.

But we, we do need Grassley to clear the room and to make it very clear.

You can sit here.

and you can watch it, but you don't have a right to disrupt it.

And if you disrupt it, I clear the room.

And you can go watch it on TV.

You can go protest outside, but not in here.

We're doing business.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

There's no secret hearings.

It's all televised.

Go watch it.

We're trying to do business.

That needs to be done.

With the setup of the Parkland father, who shockingly could just be put on within five minutes of trying to shake Kavanaugh's hand, he was booked on CNN.

What a crazy coincidence.

How did he get that?

Wow, that's fast.

And it was just, there was no setup.

There was no setup.

He was just there.

He just wanted to shake hands.

Now, let me ask you a question.

Left and right.

You're in a hearing for how many hours?

You are surrounded, surrounded by people who are attacking you.

Your children were so freaked out that that they were taken out by security.

You've had people around you and in front of you attacking you for hours.

Literally.

You are

your ears have to be ringing after that.

You have to be like almost.

almost uh you know some sort of traumatic brain injury from just getting kicked in the head for that long

You stand up Security is on both sides of you.

They're just trying to get you out of the room Everything that you have done is foreign to you.

You've never been in anything like this ever before in your life Security has been

So you stand up.

You're still kind of dizzy from getting kicked in the head.

Everything that you have seen has been a setup.

Everyone who has advised you has said, don't say anything, don't do anything, just say what you have to say, button it up, and move on.

You're getting up, you're getting ready to leave.

You turn, there's a guy, there's commotion, all the noise in that room.

There's commotion.

You're still a little dizzy.

A guy says, Hi, I'm five,

and you're not really hearing him.

Now, let me take this two ways.

First way, you're not really hearing him because of the noise in the room and everything that you're processing in your head and reaches out to shake your hand.

The question is, as you're processing, I've got to go where?

Where is the security?

Where's my family?

I got to get out of here.

Let's just keep moving on.

A guy puts his hand out to shake.

All you're hearing is all of the advisors who say, look, you're going to be set up.

Just don't do anything.

Do you reach out and take the book from Chavez?

Because you're just innocent.

You don't even know what it is.

Do you take the book from Chavez knowing that it's probably a setup?

That's one.

Even if he knew he was a Parkland dad,

I don't think Parkland Dad is

there to do anything but set me up.

Dad, Parkland Dad has an agenda.

So So what's the best move?

You have to make this decision right now, and you've never been in that situation before.

Which do you do?

Reach out and shake his hand?

Possibly after everybody has told you you're being set up, after hours of being just ripped apart, you see a guy who you assume is not there fairly, not there because he really wants your opinion.

Do you shake his hand or do you turn around with security and you leave?

That's if you heard him or could process it because of everything else

either way i don't shake the guy's hand i've been in that situation so many times

so many times where it's chaos around

I've got my family had to be had to be removed.

I tell you, I've had this

exact situation.

I've had my family have to be removed.

I stand up.

I'm starting to to move.

Security, I am, I am, you're like,

when you're in that situation, you are honestly

like a bull in a run.

You are a, you're a sheep in a run where they're just kind of moving you.

I've had them pick me up by my pant belt

and move me.

Now that didn't happen to him, but that's how confusing these things are.

You're just in this chute

and you don't know.

You're processing other things that you're supposed to do.

Their job is to protect you and get you out of there.

You can't process both.

It's too much.

And so they're pushing you along.

And I've had this happen.

Somebody will reach out.

And I've had it happen good and bad.

I've had setup.

I've had just innocent person that just really wanted to say hi.

I've had both of them and I've done both of them.

I've reached out and shook hands.

Mistake I'll never make again.

You are a Supreme Court justice.

You have just been through something that no other Supreme Court justice has ever been through.

For the media

to set him up with a Parkland parent is despicable.

Whether they confirm him, whether or not he should be the guy is beside the point.

To put his family through that, the Democrats should be ashamed of themselves.

Linda Sarseur should be recognized as the pariah she is.

You want to talk about a radical extremist?

It is Linda Sarsour, and she's in bed with the highest

of ranking officers in the DNC.

It is shameful.

You don't have to agree with Kavanaugh.

You don't have to vote for Kavanaugh.

But this is.

You know what?

This may be beneath Venezuela.

And if you needed, if you're wondering if he had an agenda, the Parkland father, when he went there, the only piece of evidence we have going into this is the tweet he sent a few days before the hearings in which he said, I will be at the Kavanaugh hearings and I hope to play a role in ensuring that this man does not become the next Supreme Court justice.

And he is.

Because

the media, let's just say they don't even know.

They didn't know last night.

They certainly knew before he got on TV that he said this.

To treat him as a non-hostile, to treat him as just a

normal guy, just a dad.

Just a dad who showed up is despicable.

Again, beneath Venezuela.

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All right.

If you're on the right or you have some common sense,

there is reason today to be outraged on a couple of things.

But let's stick with a Kavanaugh hearing.

And let's just zero in on the Parkland father.

The Parkland father tweeted a few days before, I am going to be at the Kavanaugh hearing, and I hope to do my part to make sure this man never gets a seat on the Supreme Court.

That's his stated goal.

With a hashtag of block Brett.

Right, okay.

His stated goal.

He's on CNN.

As soon as this happens, and Kavanaugh turns

his back to him.

Now, I don't think Kavanaugh knew who he was, but let's say he did.

And let's say he knew that security had told him, look, there's going to be a Parkland dad.

He just tweeted this a couple of days ago.

He's going to be there.

If you see anybody from Parkland, just move on.

Don't say anything.

Okay, that's not out of reason that that could have happened.

Don't think it did, but it's not out of reason.

Would anybody blame him for that?

He's being set up by a guy who says, I hope to do my part.

I'm going to be at the hearing.

In a public forum.

Correct.

So that he would be held responsible by the people who follow him, right?

Like he wanted to do something to make a splash here.

Correct.

And he did.

And so the press put him on and they made him this poor little victim.

No, no, in his own words, this is what he was trying to do.

So we could be outraged at him.

We could be outraged at the media.

But we already know about him and we know about the media.

What do you do?

It's important,

really important,

that you don't play into the outrage and you don't swing back.

And it's because that's what they need you to do.

And it is the only way that we make no progress.

I have a book out called Addicted to Outrage, and I really, I've not worked harder.

This is probably the best book that I've I've written since

Common Sense and probably the most important book that I have written since Common Sense.

And I want you to read this and I want you to share this with your friends because

it is strategy.

But more importantly, it is the understanding that you're not being given anywhere else of what's really going on.

What is the game we're playing?

And unless you understand that, you're playing the wrong game and you will lose.

And it was interesting reading it after going through the last few years with you and watching your approach to how you've tried to handle these issues.

And sometimes, you know, I don't know, like I, there's a big part of me that likes the pushback.

There's a huge part of me.

There's a part of me that likes, you know, we talk about when liberals eat their own and mocking them.

And all of that, I think, is okay at some level.

Yes.

But the outrage creates something different.

And you really outline this throughout the book.

And it's kind of the first time, at least to me, that I've ever seen you outline it that thoroughly, where it goes through and shows the reason for

handling these issues this way.

And

there's so much surface stuff that goes on now.

Look at the way that people cover this.

Like, they don't even go to the point of looking at the tweet from the guy in the Kavanaugh hearing from a few days ago.

They don't even go that deep.

And the people behind the movement that are changing the society, that are making all of us sort of feel like, what the hell is going on?

Those people have thought it all out.

They have a plan.

They have an approach.

They've outlined it in deep philosophical writings that you're never going to get from cable news.

You're never going to get from Twitter.

If you, in this book, you go through a lot of that stuff, outline kind of what the basis is of it, of what they're trying to do.

And it's so easy to understand once you read that, it all clicks into line and you understand why you have to approach these issues in a different way.

Would you agree that I've been talking about this for at least a year?

For two years, three years ago, I didn't know what my gut was just telling me, don't play into this.

Yeah.

But the last two years, and especially the last 18 months, I've really started to put things together.

And I started doing research on this book when I had a theory about 12 months ago.

And I've learned so much.

And

correct me if I'm wrong.

Everybody who's on the staff, I think including you, that I've been talking about this for a while, it wasn't until they finished this book that they went, oh my gosh, I get it.

It changes everything.

Yeah, it changes everything because you can kind of see how important it is to go this way rather than

sort of the easy path.

I mean, you know.

Well, the easy path, they want you to take the easy path because it plays into their hands.

And that's what you kind of go through in the book.

Right.

And so for a long time, for a long time, I started to reach out to people.

And I was reaching out to the wrong people.

I was grasping at straws.

But I want you to just to listen to a conversation that I had last night on television.

If you don't think that this approach is working, you are wrong.

You're just not seeing it on mainstream media, but it is happening.

And it's happening more and more.

All you have to do is look for it.

Last night, I was doing something on fourth-wave feminism.

By the way, watch the TV show every night at five o'clock.

You will see things and learn things that you are not seeing or learning anywhere else.

This is honestly, this is like when we first started going down progressivism and the Tides Foundation and everything else.

There's no conspiracies in this, it's all open sources.

You can find it all, and it is phenomenal.

So, what's happening is by changing our approach and by understanding the language and not demonizing and not saying, oh, you're all from hell, you're all the devil,

you're getting the opportunity to see the people who are now starting to say on the left,

holy cow, my side is completely wrong.

Here's a woman

who is a filmmaker in San Francisco.

She considered herself a fourth wave feminist,

a radical feminist, and she's in her 20s.

I want you to listen to just part of the interview from last night's television show.

People who were radical feminists were fans of yours, and you've made balanced movies, or you've tried to, exposing both sides.

You made a film in 2016 called The Red Pill.

Explain what it was.

Okay, so in 2013, I was looking for my next documentary topic and I was considering making a film on rape culture, which

was

a fear-mongering kind of

myth around 2012 with the start of fourth wave feminism.

There were many what I've now realized are myths like the wage gap and rape culture was one of them.

And so I was really believing.

I did.

And I was considering making a film on rape culture.

And so I started digging into what feminists were saying was the cause of rape culture and they were pointing towards men's rights activists as preventing women's equality and I was fascinated by this men's rights movement I never heard of it before there's never been a film about it never a documentary about it and so I started to think all right I'm gonna be the first filmmaker to ever go in the belly of the beast and interview the enemy men's rights activists so if I if I don't know much about the men's activists the men's movement that is as I understand it more about I have rights as a dad.

When I get a divorce,

I automatically lose my children to

my ex.

Is that

what you were looking at?

Yes.

And men's lib during second wave feminism really was

mostly focused on father's rights.

But it has expanded with the start of online forums and blogs and social media with men's rights activists having a more broader kind of

ideology around gender.

Okay, all right.

So you put this movie out and

this one doesn't get good reviews.

This one they don't like you for.

Yeah.

And all my previous work was about women's rights and gender politics in some capacity and I'd always been

very supported by the feminist community.

I did screening tours that were hosted by Planned Parenthood.

Wow.

I mean, even feministing.com plugged my first documentary about sex education.

So

I was very successful and well-liked in the feminist community.

And then I released The Red Pill, and now my reputation has been smeared.

I've had my name printed alongside white supremacists.

The SPLC now says that I'm a feminist trans men's rights activist that was funded by male supremacists, which none of that is true.

Okay, stop.

She's remarkable.

In fact, we start the interview last night with

10 years ago, you would have killed yourself before going on the Glenn Beck program.

She's like, oh, yeah,

I hated you.

She said, however, I didn't listen to you.

She said, this happened to me.

And I've been starting to listen and watch you and see what you're saying.

And I understand what you're saying now.

And I agree.

Now, I doubt we agree on everything,

but we absolutely agree on what is happening.

Now, here's somebody inside the movement, and this is happening over and over and over again.

And you will, what's happening is common sense is waking up.

There is enough people on both sides of the aisle that do not want to live their life this way.

And they see what's happening, and they're like, wait, that doesn't make any sense.

You're not being fair.

Americans are fair.

you're not being fair

and the outrage is locking us into

into

being enemies

and that is the goal of this movement

and so if you want to be a part of the solution I have always believed that this audience is going to be the solution I will tell you, I doubted that in the last few years, that there was was going to be any solution, that there was any way out.

I think I've told you before, I don't know.

I do now

because I've taken a couple of years and I have really done my homework.

There is a solution, but no one is presenting you with all of the facts on why it must be done this way.

And once you understand what you're really facing, the game that is actually being being played,

it will make total sense to you.

You'll be, oh my gosh, I get it.

And don't tell me that it's not working.

Wait until you see her tonight.

She's going to be on again tonight.

The conversation we're going to have tonight.

This was a radical feminist.

She's now, I invited her up to come in and spend an hour or so with me here in the studio so we could just talk and

just let her just tell her story.

She was, I would love to, I'd be honored.

She hated my guts.

I haven't changed my point of view.

I've changed my approach and allowed people to hear me say, yeah, I wish I had that all over to do again.

Which allows them to say, and all of the science behind that statement is in the book.

Why that statement?

Oh, man, I I wish I had that to do all over again.

Why that statement is important.

The science of that statement is in the book.

And it allows people to go, okay,

all right.

Well, you know, I've made some mistakes.

And once that happens, it's done.

It's done.

Pick up the book.

It's available in bookstores and everywhere books are sold here in the next couple of weeks.

And you know what?

This Bob Woodward book is just going to run crazy for the next,

probably until Christmas.

It'll probably be number one.

I would love to beat Bob Woodward.

I don't think that's possible, but I would love to beat Bob Woodward

because the media will,

I mean, what are they going to do?

What are you going to do?

Pick up the book, buy a couple of copies, give it to a friend, addicted to outrage.

It's available everywhere.

September 18th, you can pre-order it now.

So, I'm reading some news from around the world as I'm watching the global markets and everything else that

I do, so you don't have to.

And I just can't get over this feeling that

the alt-right is about to raise its ugly head

in Europe.

It is already starting to happen.

The right and the left

are becoming more and more radical in Europe.

Did you see that I think

it's a city in

Venice that said that they were going to go to cryptocurrency because

they're not paying for the debt.

They think that debt is wrong and they're not going to pay for it.

And the Euro is funny money.

It's starting to happen when these things happen uh

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Glenn back.

I want to talk to you a little bit about the Bob Woodward book.

Because I don't understand the outrage here on this one.

I really don't.

And we'll talk about that coming up in just a second.

Also, you know, the Cosby show

actor, Jeffrey Owens, who Fox News, shame on you,

tried to out this guy.

Like, look at him.

He had to take a job at a grocery store bagging.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

And he has responded in such an eloquent way.

Everybody needs to hear it.

We'll tackle that.

And Bitcoin coming up.

Glenn back.

Linda Sarsour,

the leftist equivalent of.

I was saying Milo Yapanopoulos, but it might be Richard Spencer.

What do you think, Stu?

I think she's more like Richard Spencer.

Linda Sarsour pulls outrageous, logic-defying stunts.

Her side roars with chants and then pats themselves on their back.

That's why she's like Milo, but her actual policies are much more in line with somebody like Richard Spencer.

Make no mistake, Linus Arsur is as bad as both of those people.

She's much worse, I think, than Milo.

Her virulent anti-Semitism, her anti-white racism, her flagrant disregard for America, the Western ideas, the Western laws, her support of Sharia law, her connection to Hamas, her connection to Louis Farrakhan,

her open misogyny.

I mean, I could go on, but the show isn't this long.

She's called for jihad against President Donald Trump.

She's called for the assassination of our president.

And yet, somehow or another, the Democratic Party, not Democrats, the Democratic Party embrace her.

I don't know of a single Democrat that would embrace Linda Sarsour.

I do know the power and the money people that do.

But the media is not telling the Democrats the truth about who she is.

Well, yesterday she got herself arrested.

She was one of the dozens of obnoxious protesters that showed their classless outrage at Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings.

She leapt up.

She began screaming shortly after the hearing started.

Brett Kavanaugh's daughters, aged 10 and 13, were rushed out of the room for their safety.

Now,

is this

who we are?

Sarser took the arrest as a badge of honor.

She said, I will be able to tell my daughters and my future grandchildren that I stood up, that I was not and will not be silent when our bodies and our rights are on the line.

Now, I find this a little ironic and hard to swallow.

Coming from a woman who's wearing a hijab, who believes in Sharia law, who has said that critics of

women critics of Islam, that she, quote, wishes she could take their vaginas away.

She has signaled her virtue by having stood up

when the bodies and rights of women are on the line.

Ayan Hirsi Ali was her target.

Ayon Hirsi Ali had genital mutilation happen to her.

And when she spoke out about it, Sarseur said, I wish I could just take her vagina away.

I don't know there is a place where, you know, bodies of women are at stake.

I have to side with Candace Owen on this one.

Candice Owens said, quote, you have to be a special kind of idiot to get arrested for women's rights alongside Linda Sarsour, an Islamist who supports Sharia law and the forced mutilation of women's genitals overseas.

Indeed, she said, if stupidity was the crime, they would have held you without bail, end quote.

Candace is right.

By the way, tonight, 5 o'clock, Glenbeck TV, on the blaze, I'm going into Linda Sarseur and her part in fourth-wave

feminism, something you will not see anyplace else.

The radicalized new form of feminism that blends social justice, Marxism, and postmodernism.

It is the fight we're engaged in right now.

And unless you understand it, you will lose.

Tonight, a way out, 5 o'clock only on the Blaze TV.

It's Wednesday, September 5th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

All right.

Bob Woodward.

He's got a new book out, Glenn.

I know.

I've heard.

Has there ever been a worse book launch?

They kind of leak all this stuff out, all these salacious insider Trump details.

Oh, I think this is a good one.

You think so?

Against the Kavanaugh hearings?

I mean, it didn't seem to get much at all yesterday.

I mean, even the places like CNN weren't leading with it, which is, you know, I mean, this is like catnip for MSNBC, right?

And even there, it wasn't getting the attention I thought it would get.

Now, the book's not out yet.

But New York Times sort of savaged it in their review.

Did they really?

Yeah.

I mean, you know, they said,

you know, they said, of course, you know, you could tell the writer absolutely despises Trump, but like they were disappointed in it.

Didn't really get anywhere new.

You know,

there was not a lot of color in it.

It was just a list of sources, and you can tell who the sources were because all the people were

crazy.

Yeah, they look good in the book.

That's what Bob Woodward does.

He praises people, and then they say things, and he promises that you'll look good in the book.

You just give me the dirt.

Okay, let's take all of the, you know, he's an idiot, he's unhinged, he's retarded, all those things.

Let's take all of that out, okay?

Trump is denying that he called Jeff Sessions retarded, by the way.

Right.

So

that should be on the record.

Right.

Okay.

But

there's some other quotes about Donald Trump, supposedly from his staff, that are just as unkind.

Okay.

Yes.

And let's just take all of that out.

Let's just take all of it out.

And I looked at what the book said yesterday.

And

not only is there nothing new here,

I believe I have heard multiple, many Trump supporters, even die-hard Trump supporters

who

have kind of championed what's happening in this book.

For instance, how many Trump supporters do you know that say, I really like him, but I wish he would put Twitter down?

Right?

Very common.

Very common.

Expression.

I wish they would just take his Twitter away from him.

So part of the expose in this book is there was a committee that tried to come to him.

A White House group of advisors came to him and said, look,

we're just forming a committee

and we think we should vet all of your Twitter posts.

And Trump wouldn't do it.

Now, this is made to look like, oh, that's crazy.

No.

no, even his supporters, even his supporters are like, you know, some of the stuff he says are good.

Some of the stuff is crazy.

And I wish he would just stop it because it's hard.

And would you expect anything else to happen in a situation like that?

The staff is saying, hey, please restrain yourself from these activities that might throw us off course.

And then it's Trump's decision as the president of the United States to decide whether he wants to do them or not.

It's totally his call.

He made the call and he's continued to tweet.

Okay.

So now

here's the other thing.

And tell me if you actually have a problem with this.

The book opens with

a story of Gary Cohn.

Now, Gary Cohn was the guy.

He was the chief economic advisor.

When we started going down the trail of

trade wars, you know, he wanted nothing to do with it.

So he's gone, blah, blah, blah.

However,

it opens up with

this letter, a critical trade agreement with South Korea.

And

the letter would have taken us out of this agreement.

And it was sitting on Trump's desk.

Cohen sees it, and he's like, I got to get this away from him.

And he takes it and he says, according to the book, I stole it off his desk.

I wouldn't let him see it.

He's never going to see that document.

Got to protect the country.

Okay, there's only two ways to look at this.

One,

deep state,

which, strangely, the left has been saying there is no such thing as deep state.

Right?

Even they?

So

you would have, one way to look at this is evidence that deep state exists.

You are taking things away from the duly elected president.

You are taking things off of his desk.

The guy we voted for or didn't vote for, but the people put in office, and somebody who's not elected is taking it off of his desk and saying he's not going to even see that one.

Yeah, intentionally to hide it from him so he doesn't make the decisions he wants to make.

Okay.

So you could classify that as deep state, right?

The president gets in, he can't really do anything because people tie his hands.

All right.

So the left

has to decide, does that exist?

Or does it not exist?

And is it a good thing or is it a bad thing?

Now, i generally think in fact i always think that that's a bad thing however i haven't been necessarily um now let me let me take this out i have i have talked to several people who voted for donald trump many

people who have said and let me give you the best spin on it look

He's he doesn't know all of the ropes, but that's why he's going to have the best people around him and the best best people around him.

They're going to stop him from doing anything that's truly reckless.

Okay?

When it comes to war, part of this is about war.

That his advisors around him are like, no, Mr.

President, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

He wanted to go into Syria, according to the book.

Yeah.

And

assassinate

Assad.

Yeah.

And

Mattis.

you know, got on the off the phone with him, reportedly, and said, yeah, we're not doing any of that.

And they drew up a much more conventional way of going about things, which is what they wound up doing.

I mean, that's what you have a

Secretary of Defense for, right?

Sounds like that's how it should work.

As long as they're keeping him in the loop, that's how it should work.

And I don't have a problem

with

in this particular case,

I don't like the fact that anybody would keep information from him.

Right.

You need to be able to talk to him and say, this is why this decision is wrong.

Here's why it's right.

And then he gets to make the decision.

That part of the process, according to the book, has stopped happening all the time.

And

the people in the book claim the reason for it is he won't listen to reason like that.

So

you can't bring him things like that.

He's just going to dismiss you and do what he wants anyway.

So you have to do it this way.

That's their argument.

Well, okay.

But that's deep state.

Or,

or

is it what I've heard many Trump supporters say a good thing?

He's got good, he doesn't know about all of those things, and it's a good thing that they just

smart people around him.

They're not going to get us into trouble.

Okay.

So, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Usually, bad thing, but we're not dealing with usual stuff anymore.

Okay.

Porter said, a third of my job was trying to react to some of the really dangerous ideas that he had and try to give him reasons to believe that maybe they weren't such good ideas.

Does anybody have a problem with that?

Woodward claims that's a coup d'etat.

Well, no.

No.

That's another amazing point, though.

How long have we heard that these things are not real?

And now liberals are saying, Woodward's saying it's a coup?

Right.

That's a remarkable part of this book that's not really getting attention yet.

And nobody is pointing out that, wait a minute, part of this is what Trump's supporters wanted.

They wanted a guy to go in and break all the China.

But they also wanted really good people around that could say, don't break that China.

Right.

Okay.

That's what you have.

Trump supporters.

Bob Woodward, if you take all of the he said, she said stuff that you're never going to know if that's true or not.

Take all of that stuff out.

If you look at what he says is going on, this is what you knew going in,

and your backup was, I'm going to have really good people around him.

He's going to put good people around him.

That's what's happening.

Let me give you a couple of other things.

Woodward writes that Dowd, the Trump attorney, saw the full nightmare of a potential Mueller interview and felt Trump acted like a grieved Shakespearean king.

That's he said, she said.

Don't know if that's true.

Trump seemed surprised at his reaction.

You think I was struggling?

Now,

what is happening here is they did a mock question and answer, and Dowd played

Mueller and said, okay, let's just see, let's just play this out.

Is there any doubt in anyone's mind?

Because I want to, let me read what he says.

The goal of this was to argue that Trump couldn't possibly testify because he was just incapable of telling the truth.

He just would make things up.

That's his nature.

The passage is an unprecedented glimpse behind the scene of Mueller's secret operation.

For the first time, Mueller's conversations with Trump lawyers are captured.

I need the president's testimony.

I want to see if there was corrupt intent.

Trump said, I think the president of the United States cannot be seen taking the fifth.

His attorney said, there's no way you can go through these.

Don't testify.

It's either that or an orange jumpsuit.

Okay.

I don't know if any of that language happened.

I don't know if he ever told Trump that you're going to go to prison and you'll be in an orange jumpsuit.

It doesn't matter.

Does anyone doubt that the president of the United States, whether he knows it or not, and I think I could make a very strong case, he really doesn't even know what's true and what's not because of the way his mind has worked for so long.

He's a salesman.

That's who he is.

He's not a builder.

He's not anything else.

He's the guy who walks into the room and goes, you're going to love this.

You have to have three of these.

In fact, when I'm done with you, you're going to be working for me selling these because you're going to believe in him so much.

It's the greatest.

It's the best.

It's the biggest.

It's golden.

It's wonderful.

It's going to change the world.

He's a salesman.

He himself has said that he says things things a lot of times just because it's negotiation, right?

That's a big argument as well of Trump supporters.

So let me take this and dissect it a bit more when we come back and ask you again, what's the problem here?

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So let me continue on this Bob Woodward book and just ask you: what is the problem here?

What is the thing that we're supposed to be outraged by or surprised by?

Let's go back to the Jay

Seculo and

Cohen meeting, where they are not Cohen, Dowd, where they are, the attorneys are meeting with the president and said, Let's just do a mock

interview here with Mueller.

Required preparation whether you're going to do the interview or not.

You got to know how it would go.

Any doubt that that happened.

Of course, that happened.

If it didn't happen, the president doesn't have good representation.

So they sit him down, and he just starts going in, and they start asking the question, and

it doesn't go well.

He just starts to, you know, say things and make things up, or things that, you know, might be a little dicey.

And they stop him.

Now, any doubt that the president would play fast and loose on this, that he's not an attorney.

Right.

He's a salesman, and so he's going to go in and tell a great story.

Gets things out of order, says things that maybe didn't exactly happen.

I mean, of course, that would happen with most people, I think.

Correct.

And he has

propensity.

A propensity to do those things.

Okay.

So I don't disagree that that probably happened.

Now, two parts of this story.

One,

they say that he went off like a Shakespearean king and got really angry.

And he's like, this whole thing is just a setup, blah, blah, blah.

Any doubt he did that?

No, he's done it publicly.

Any doubt at the end, he came back and said, you know what?

You think I was struggling?

I can nail this.

Go ahead.

Put me up with him.

Any doubt that the president thought or said that he could master anything.

Again, he said that publicly.

Okay.

All right.

So what is the big,

what's the big reveal here?

And why are people on our side outraged?

If you are hearing the media to talk to Bob Woodward, what's the outrageous point here?

Because that all sounds like what I would expect to be happening behind the scenes I wouldn't expect that this president is not a he doesn't play by the rules

so what part of this is confusing

if you take all of the he said she said which we'll never unless they have tape you'll never be able to prove

the charges aren't new The charges aren't surprising at all.

Welcome to the program.

I wanted to get Tika Tiwari on.

He is the editor of the Palm Beach Letter and does our smart crypto course at smartcryptocourse.com.

Last night, bad night in Bitcoin, and wanted to get Tika on the phone.

As I read this morning at 5 o'clock, we didn't know why

there was this massive sell-off of cryptocurrency.

Tika, welcome to the program.

How are you?

I'm doing great, Glenn.

Thanks for having me.

This seems to be some sort of a coordinated or massive sell-off,

almost like a flash crash.

Any idea what happened yesterday?

Yeah, what happened was

there's a story out, put out by Business Insider, that Goldman Sachs is not going to go forward with their crypto trading desk.

And this has everybody up in arms.

Oh, my goodness.

If Goldman doesn't give it its golden seal of approval, it's not a real asset um and you know people are panicking which is what they do but what's interesting is that bitcoin is still holding 7k

so i just want to shed some light on this story so i have spoken to

a former goldman sachs alum he left recently for obvious reasons i cannot give you his name and he has seen the roadmap that Goldman Sachs has for crypto and they have a full crypto roadmap for getting involved in crypto assets.

Now, if you look at Goldman, they've been coy for the last six months.

Oh, maybe we're going to have a trading desk.

No, no, no, we're not going to have a trading desk.

That's not going to happen.

And then bang, news comes out.

Oh, you know what?

We're actually going to have a trading desk.

Now they're saying, well, no, we might not have a trading desk, but we're going to have custody.

Right.

So you got to ask yourself, why all these mixed messages into the market?

So again, I don't know, Glenn.

Are they using this to buy Bitcoin on the cheap?

It would not be the first time a big bank has manipulated sentiment in order to buy Bitcoin on the cheap.

We saw Jamie Dimon do that last year when he came out and he called Bitcoin a fraud.

And then we saw that out of Europe, the two biggest buyers of Bitcoin were JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley,

buying exactly when their CEO said if anybody bought Bitcoin on behalf of the firm, they'd be fired.

So this

of

covert manipulation or movements of the market, this overt manipulation of sentiment, it's nothing new.

It happens in the equity market every day.

It happens.

It also happened in the Great Depression.

I know my grandfather

told me, you buy when everybody else is selling.

He said, that's how people got rich in the Great Depression.

When everybody else was selling, you didn't buy.

You bought when everyone else was selling, not while they were buying.

And

he spoke in the Great Depression about the large institutions that would come in and they would talk things down and it would get really bad and then they would come in and buy everything up and that's that's what happened in 2008

and it's possible that that's what's happening with cryptocurrency

well let's talk about 2008 for a second in 2008 2009

Amex hit $9.71

Harley-Davidson hit eight bucks and Bank of America hit 250 And so the reason why I bring that up is that price can only tell you so much, right?

Amex at 971, the price is telling you they're going out of business.

Bank of America at 250, price is telling you they're going out of business.

But in times like that, you can't focus just on price because the sentiment is so negative.

So when it comes to things like Bitcoin and early stage technology, you have to look at them differently.

In early stage tech, price is only one barometer.

It's not the best barometer of value.

You've got to look at the pace of innovation and the pace of adoption, right?

So if you look at the pace of innovation, specifically in Bitcoin,

it's transformational.

I was just in Sicily meeting with a couple of developers on the Lightning Network, which is a

payment layer that sits on top of Bitcoin, which allows you to do enormous amounts of transactions at a very low cost.

And so these developers were showing me an application that's been created where you can go and you can buy one pixel, right?

So you can create pictures online.

You can buy one pixel for one Satoshi.

So one Satoshi is one 100 of a millionth of a Bitcoin.

So it's a tiny fraction of a penny.

Now, normally, you can't do a transaction that small because every transaction on the Bitcoin network costs a dollar, right?

So if you do a transaction for a fraction of a penny, it's going to cost you a buck.

But with the Lightning Network,

they've figured out a way where you can do millions of transactions for virtually free.

So they've done 10 million of these one Satoshi transactions where the cost of the transaction has been below the cost of one Satoshi.

And that's transformational.

It's the equivalent of going from a dial-up modem to a broadband in a year, right?

It completely eliminates that whole problem that people have with Bitcoin.

Oh my gosh, you can't do many transactions on it, and it's too expensive.

Okay, Tika, so I have two questions, and I've only got a couple of minutes left.

Let me ask you two questions.

One,

why,

I think it was, I think it's Venice where the mayor said, we're going to do our own currency, and it's going to be a cryptocurrency, and

we're getting off the Euro, et cetera, et cetera.

Why are countries like Venezuela or Milan, why are they not just

buying into something like Bitcoin?

Why are they trying to do their own thing when

it's just not going to work?

It won't work.

The same thing happened in the 90s where companies said, oh, this internet thing is interesting, but we're going to set up our own intranets, our own internal internets.

Everybody tried to do it themselves.

And they tried that for three or four years, and they wasted billions of dollars, and it failed.

And then they finally woke up and they said, all right, I guess we've got to go use the public internet.

So the same will be true for these currencies.

Nobody will use Venezuela's coin.

Nobody will use Milan's coin, right?

And they'll realize that and they'll say, you know what, we're going to have to use a public coin.

And it's going to be Bitcoin that they ultimately go to.

And if you look at the black market right now in places like Venezuela, in places like Brazil, Argentina, and even in Russia, there's a whole underground economy using Bitcoin because as volatile as Bitcoin is, it's much more stable than their base home currencies.

Okay, last question.

You were up in, I think, July, and you said the things that are going to happen in the next few months are going to take Bitcoin to 40,000

by the end of the year.

Yes.

You still feel that way?

Yes, and there's two reasons.

One, the ETF, and two, ICE, the International Continental Exchange, which owns the New York Stock Exchange, is set to open their BACT BAKKT platform in November.

BACT is going to be the first institutional platform where institutions can buy, sell, trade, and custody cryptocurrency.

It's going to be the first time a pension fund will have a legitimate, fully regulated exchange to start buying cryptocurrency.

And that's done for sure.

We know that in November?

Nothing's for sure.

ICE is waiting for one final approval, but

they're saying in their mind it's a done deal, but yeah, could it not happen?

It's certainly a possibility, Glenn.

But they've been working on this for 14 months.

They kept it secret for 14 months.

And

now they've finally gone public with it.

So I think it's a done deal.

Here's something interesting about ICE.

They make two and a half billion in net profits each year.

Each year, Glenn.

Why would they mess around with cryptocurrency?

And And I'll tell you, in a word, it's because of Binance.

Binance is an online exchange that's barely a year old.

It's unregulated, and they will net a billion dollars this year.

Holy cow.

To put that, put that in perspective, Deutsche Bank has been in business for 148 years, employs more than 100,000 people.

Binance is now more profitable than them.

Right.

So the money, and this is even in a bear market, there's so much money here that the big banks and the brokerage firms are just missing out on that they're building this regulatory framework so they can go get a piece of it.

And the ultimate bigger pie is so much bigger than the 35 million people that currently are in crypto globally.

The big picture is the 500 million people worldwide that own stocks.

Those people are not going to come into crypto through non-traditional means like Coinbase and Binance.

This is not going to happen.

They're going to come through traditional broker dealers.

And I think that's the reason why companies like ICE,

Goldman, JP Morgan, Northern Trust, Bank of America, why they're collecting all these patents, why they're getting involved in the custody business, is because I think ultimately these are the guys that are going to shepherd the rest of the world into crypto.

And they're going to make hundreds of billions of fees doing it.

That's the big picture for them.

Not this little market that we have right now.

TikTari, thank you so much.

Appreciate it, brother.

And we'll

keep our eye on

Bitcoin.

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how it works, what blockchain is, how this is going to transform things.

Whether you invest or not in Bitcoin, I think everybody should have $100 in Bitcoin because it is possible that it's transformational wealth.

It is possible that this is the AT ⁇ T in 1910 or 1920 or the GE of 1910 or the Apple or Google of 1995.

There is that real possibility, transformational wealth beyond anything we've ever seen.

And it's worth $100, I think.

But

you can check his stuff out at smartcryptocourse.com.

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Glad you've tuned in today.

We have somebody really fascinating coming on here in just a second.

And another example of why you need to read Addicted to Outrage.

It is a book of strategy.

It is a book on how

to win, because there is a game being played right now, and it's being played by

a small fraction of Americans.

And

they are enlisting each of us on both sides, and we are fighting the fight for them as designed and as planned.

And once you understand who these people are, remember the difference when you couldn't understand how Democrats

were acting, and then you found progressivism.

And I remember people saying, you know, Glenn, liberal and progressive, it's the same thing.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

Let's be precise on words.

In a time when words are meaningless, let's put meaning behind words.

We are now past the progressive era.

We are now into the postmodern era.

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that's meaningless because we're in a new era.

And until you understand it, you'll fight it in a way that will only help them win.

That's what addicted to outrage is really all about.

And for a long time, my gut told me we have to go down this road.

But I didn't really understand why.

I started doing my homework because, quite honestly, I gave up.

I was like,

there's no way out.

There's no way out.

It's too far gone.

There is a way out.

And we are beginning to see the fruits of the labor actually starting to make a difference.

But if you are arguing the same argument that we have been going back and forth for the last, you know, 20 years,

you won't be a part of it.

We have somebody who's coming on next who is evidence that is changing?

Yeah, she was a liberal columnist

who

looked at the world from a completely different perspective than I think most of us

that are here right now listening to the show.

And

she had an awakening of sorts when she started looking at some of the arguments

from the people on the intellectual dark web of what we've talked about before, the Jordan Petersons and

that crew, Dave Rubin and all those things.

And how is that crew doing it?

What is Dave or Jordan Peterson doing?

He's Canadian.

He's not talking about politics.

We're caught arguing about politics instead of arguing about bigger ideas.

And so when you start to get into bigger ideas and you don't make it about politics and it's all about what's true and what isn't, and you are rational and and reasonable, and not angry, the whole world opens up.

And I'll show you the example of it next.

Glenn Beck.

It's Wednesday, September 5th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

We live in a time right now where it seems that

big ideas don't matter.

I mean, the big concepts, the principles, the

things that

allow us to move forward

as a society, nobody cares.

Truth doesn't matter.

Principles don't matter.

Integrity doesn't matter.

None of it matters.

And yet, we will fight to the death over the smallest so-called microaggression.

It's the biggest thing ever, and everything's got to stop.

And I need a hashtag and a protest sign, and I got to take that bastard down.

That's the world we're living in.

You're either on the train or you're an enemy that has to be destroyed.

That is not going to work.

That is coming from, as I write in my new book, our addiction to outrage.

And it is, we're playing into the hands of a handful of radicals on both sides that would like to destroy the Western way of life, like to take us to a post-modern era, which means leave all of the things that the Enlightenment gave us behind.

That ain't going to work.

But the problem is we are all certain that our side or that we are right.

I used to be very certain about a lot of things.

I am only certain about one thing now, and that is certainty is going to be the death of us.

I want to introduce you to somebody who, let me just...

Let me just read a little bit of the resume.

She has written for numerous magazines, including including The New Yorker, the New York Times magazine, The Atlantic, Vogue.

She is a recipient of the 2015 Guggenheim Fellowship, the 2016 National Endowment for the Arts Fellowship, and is also on the adjunct faculty in the MFA Writing Program at Columbia University School of the Arts.

If you read that, you would be certain that she has nothing to say to you that you might go, wow.

And I bet

that she, a few years ago, might might have been certain that there was no way that she would ever say anything civil to Glenn Beck.

Megan Dahm is on the program with us now.

Hello, Megan.

How are you?

Hi, Glenn.

It's good to be with you.

I love that introduction.

I'm chuckling to myself.

Right, do I?

I'm happy to be here.

You're happy to be here.

Would you have been happy to be here five, six, eight years ago?

Five, six, eight years ago.

What were you doing back then exactly?

I have to say, Glenn, I always found you very intriguing.

I found you exasperating in a way that now that I look back on it, I think there must have been something in there that was making you particularly push people's buttons.

So I don't know.

Okay, well,

well, good.

Okay, so I want you to tell your story because I think there's something

Let me Let me start, just so you know, we're kind of on the same page.

I just wrote a new book.

It's coming out in a couple of weeks.

This is the dedication To all those who are willing to step out in front of the crowd, to question, reason, and have dangerous conversations.

Men with whom I may strongly disagree at times, but I will always consider re-founders of reason and contemporary heroes.

Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson, Brett Weinstein, Stein, Sam Harris, Jonathan Sachs, Penjillette, and Joe Rogan.

These are the kinds of people that changed your point of view.

They changed my point of view.

Well, you're asking me that question?

Yes.

So my story, let's see.

I mean, I guess I'm not sure that I have changed exactly.

I have always been a writer who's interested in contradictions and interested in

human tendency towards hypocrisy.

And I've always had the luxury as a writer of being able to kind of sort through those things in a thoughtful way and having the time and the space and a readership that would kind of let me

invite my readers to think alongside me as I sorted things out.

And I think what, yes, go ahead.

So

let me make sure that I'm stating, I should state this much more carefully.

People think that I have changed my point of view.

I haven't.

I have lost certainty on the things that I shouldn't be certain about, and that is other people and,

and you know uh good versus evil that everybody is in one of two camps, etc., etc.

That kind of thinking to where it's exhausting to not be able to have a conversation and no nuance in people.

Right.

So the nuance was the thing that I was interested in.

So what I noticed starting a few years ago, and I think this really started heating up in probably 2015, was that, as you say, there was no room for discussion across the lines.

I was a newspaper opinion columnist for more than a decade.

I started in 2005, and the difference between when I started and what the climate has been like in the last few years is striking.

And I'm not sure I changed as much as I saw some, not all, but some, many of my peers and colleagues

really taking on an approach that was pretty narrow.

And yeah, I started watching some of these folks on YouTube that you named and it was very,

I got drawn in and I didn't like everyone equally and I didn't agree with everybody, but it was quite compelling.

So what are you seeing?

First of all, to take us back, because you had a really, I mean, you've had a traumatic few years in your marriage and also with kind of looking at

the world and

some of the people that were around you or the people that were the loudest voices on the left.

Can you take me through some of that?

Well, so you're talking about a piece that just went up that I published very recently called Nuance a Love Story.

And in that piece, I talk about how over the last three years or so, I started noticing both as a journalist and just as a private person that

intelligent friends of mine were just not really willing to have conversations where they entertained that

people on the conservative side might have a point or that there might be some contradictions in their own views.

And it just became an echo chamber and it became really, really frustrating.

And I really felt

ultimately a sense of loneliness about it.

And the reason that I kind of did this particular piece the way I did was that I wanted to get at the more sort of visceral human side of this.

Because certainly certainly a lot of people have talked and written a lot about tribalism and polarization.

And that sort of approach is important, but it's nothing terribly new.

So I wanted to get at the more emotional components of this phenomenon.

And what are the emotional components?

Well, I just think that, you know, whether you're on the left or the right,

you're used to

agreeing with your friends or at least being able to talk with your friends,

go to a party and everyone kind of is on the same page.

And I just felt like there suddenly,

with the 2016 election, there was such a feeling of crisis.

Within the left, I felt like the feeling was, well, this is such a crisis that we have no room for nuance.

We don't have the luxury of a complicated discussion.

Everybody needs to get on board right now and take down Trump and talk in the most simplistic,

ham-fisted terms.

And on one level, I understand where they're coming from, but on the other hand,

it's just not very interesting.

That was my problem.

It was just, it's boring.

I mean, don't get me wrong.

I don't like anything about Trump.

I think we are in a crisis.

But that doesn't mean that we have to shut down

all thoughtful

conversation or refuse to ask complicated, difficult questions.

For instance, you talk about in this article, you talk about

that your friends, and

this happens on the right, too.

Your friends will get a few drinks in them, and then they'll start to say, okay, look, I'm with you on this, right?

But they'll never, ever say that out loud

in public.

They'll never take that stand.

They'll call you over and they'll be like, look, and I've had this without booze.

People have come up to me and go, look, I really appreciate what you're doing.

I mean, don't tell anybody I'm with you, but I'm with you.

Right, right.

Well, and one of the things that drives that is social media, right?

Because there is a dopamine hit you get from virtue signaling on Twitter or whatever it is and saying the thing that's going to get you the most amount of praise in the least amount of time.

And people just keep doing it and keep doing it.

And I've had plenty of times where I've had people say, well, you know, I kind of, you know, I don't really think that, but, you know, I just, for my own personal brand or for my readership or whatever it is,

I'm going to say this very reductive thing.

You know, what do you think about what do you think about

Benjamin Franklin talked about this at about 1772.

He said, I just can't go to parties anymore.

I mean, the guy was a bon vivant and just a gra I mean, I would love to hang out with Benjamin Franklin.

And he was like, I can't go to parties anymore.

I can't because nobody is serious.

We are facing serious issues.

And

nobody's really talking about any of that stuff.

Right.

I mean, do you kind of feel that way?

Yeah, and I think that people get really threatened.

I mean, so it might be helpful just to talk, you know, in specific terms for a moment.

So, like, one of the things that I talk about in the piece is the way this, this, you know, this group, very loosely defined kind of constellation of thinkers has now sort of identified themselves as the intellectual dark web.

Okay, so one of the things I talk about in the piece is

my interest in that group, but also my wariness with the fact that this

tribe has supposedly devoted itself to anti-tribalism.

And that's a contradiction there, and that's something you've got to work out.

It's kind of like libertarians who tell you you're not libertarian enough.

It's like

right.

I mean, these are people that wouldn't want to belong to you know a group that would have them as a member but then here they are in the group so you know but so you know glenn i mean one of the things that comes up a lot is this issue of the gender wage gap so this is a subject that is really complicated um and it gets a lot of people fired up emotionally and there's a lot of baggage around it and you know the problem is

there is a gender wage gap.

I don't think anybody

who's looked into it at all could deny it.

Obviously,

there is.

In the aggregate, men earn a lot more than women.

Now, is that because of a patriarchal conspiracy or institutionalized sexism?

Maybe a tiny bit, but overall, there are very concrete and quantifiable reasons for this.

And if you want to look at

issues around childcare and issues around

the way the economy works and flexible hours and why women choose to go into professions they do, You know, that's a much more complicated question around economics.

And those are the kinds of questions that need to be asked.

But unfortunately, we can't even get to the point of asking those questions because people say, well, how can you even

question

the gender wage gap?

You're a sexist.

I don't even want to have this conversation.

It's threatening to have this conversation.

And you shut it right down right there.

And we can't even then begin to solve these problems.

And that's what's really frustrating.

Okay, so let's go there.

I want to take a quick break.

Do you have a second to hang with us?

Absolutely.

Okay, let's take a quick break.

And when we come back, I want to talk to you about,

you know, the reason why we have tenure, and I support this, is to be able to say crazy things

in the pursuit of opening up minds and thinking differently.

That's what moves people forward.

However, we now have

this movement that is really

in the colleges and with college-age people that

they're hostile to anything that challenges them.

It's absolutely destructive.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this and how we have those conversations when you're drummed out of business, you could be de-platformed, you know, or you'll have a mob attack you when we come back.

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Megan Dahm, an opinion columnist for the LA Times

and somebody I find fascinating.

Megan, I'd love to...

maybe after the first of the year

fly you in and just spend an hour or so with you commercial free and just uninterrupted to have a real conversation with you.

I'd love that.

Great.

You know,

I'm new to the postmodern

concept last few years.

And I'm glad to be here.

Yeah.

So

as you're watching this and you don't understand what postmodernism is, you don't understand the world at all.

Once you do, you really see how destructive that is, and you're seeing it now in the colleges.

What do we, how can we have these conversations when it's a microaggression to say you're wrong?

Yeah, well,

postmodernism does have its uses.

I mean, as a way of talking about art, as a way of talking about literature, I mean, that's really, I think, where it's best applied.

I mean, so one of the things,

there's a lot of moving pieces here.

So one of the things that's happened is that humanities departments on liberal arts campuses over the last 20, 30 years have evolved so that

a lot of the discourse is around this concept of intersectionality and power and privilege.

So the students

get taught that

every that the world needs to be looked at in terms of

who has historically had power and how to make that how to how to get rid of it, how to make everybody equal.

So instead of equality of opportunity, we need to have equality of outcome.

And so that really then starts this

mentality where

anybody who has more than somebody else is framed as potentially a bad person.

And this has now become in many ways the sort of default mentality of a lot of the media.

I mean one thing I really emphasize, Glenn, is that this is not the majority of college students.

It's not the majority of people.

This is actually a very small percentage of students that even get into this stuff.

I mean, the most college students are like studying engineering and doing stuff having nothing to do with this.

The problem is that the people who do get into this tend to go into the media.

They go into education, they go into the media, they go into cultural institutions, and that's why we now have a situation where the quote, you know, mainstream media,

the younger generation,

a lot of people come in with this kind of sensibility.

And

that is what has,

they come in with this sort of sensibility, and that is what has kind of made this discourse the default setting.

Megan, I'm sorry we're out of time.

I would love to have you join me for just a longer conversation.

And I'd like to talk to you about postmodernism and how it's useful in literature.

Maybe you can open my mind on that one.

All right, I'll have to do my homework later.

Yeah, okay.

Great talking to you.

Thank you so much for having an open mind and recognizing nuance.

Thank you.

God bless.

That is Megan Dahm.

She is with the LA Times.

We'll tweet her article out, by the way.

At World of Stewart.

It's really

worth reading.

There was this, there's a couple of paragraphs in here that I think are remarkable.

She said, I hardly need to describe what happened over the next year.

This is in 2017.

Racists became even more racist.

Sexans, sexists hardened into full-blown misogynists.

In turn, those fighting their bigotry often insinuated their own kind of tyranny.

Almost immediately, the resistance became not just a front line against Trumpism, but its own scorching battleground.

To be frothing with rage over one thing meant being insufficiently aggrieved over something else.

If you were worried about women, you weren't worried enough about blacks.

If you weren't marching for immigrants, why didn't you show up for scientists?

There's no amount of outrage that couldn't be outdone.

No woke that was woke enough.

Mercury.

This is the Glenn Benn program.

I don't know if you saw last night's television show,

but last night we were taking on fourth wave feminism and explaining what it is and how it plays out today.

We're going to take you right to Linda Sarsour

and use her as an example of fourth wave feminism.

And we had a guest on

last night who is

just remarkable, a remarkable woman.

Cassie J?

She is,

she started her own film company in San Francisco.

She lives in San Francisco.

She's won

a Khan Film Award.

And

she's praised by the left.

Planned Parenthood sponsored one of her

openings of one of her films.

She could

not be more,

I don't want to say anti-feminist, anti-feminist as we all understand what feminists are now.

She couldn't be.

She said she no longer refers to herself as a feminist.

Yeah.

She, she saw, she made a movie.

Her goal always was to make movies and have it be fair.

So she thought she was going to go make a movie about the men's movement.

And she thought it was going to be a bunch of sexists.

And she found it wasn't.

And so she made this fair movie.

It's called The Red Pill.

And when she did it, like all of her friends, all of her contacts started calling her a racist, a sexist, a white supremacist.

And she was like, what?

What?

Based on what?

And she saw the movement for what it was.

Tonight's another second half of the interview with her, and she's just remarkable.

You have to watch her.

Did you see the story of the Texas doctor who

said,

hey, you know, if you want to make the same amount, if female doctors want to make the same amount as male doctors, they need to work harder.

And that wasn't the entirety of what he said.

What he said, actually,

if you read his, I believe it was a tweet that he sent out, and he's just been bludgeoned for it.

I mean, just almost beat into submission to the point where, of course, he apologized and took it all back, despite the fact that he was accurate.

And the article written about it admits he was accurate.

Women doctors

tend,

the majority of them don't see as many patients during the course of the day because they spend more time with the patients they see and because they don't put in as many hours as men.

Now, that's all backed up by fact from the American Medical Association.

And both of those, neither of those are bad things.

Neither of those are bad things.

He said they're spending more time with their families and with their patients.

Right.

It's not bad.

They don't work as hard.

In other words, men put in more hours.

So

they make more money.

They put people through the meat grinder a little faster.

Right.

And

I mean, that is the medical profession now.

You've got to see a bunch of patients in order to make more money in this day and age.

And I'm sure it's probably always been that way.

But

women doctors went crazy.

Feminists went crazy.

Don't give in.

Do not give in.

I know he just did.

Yeah, he did.

Don't give in.

When the facts are on your side, what do you have to apologize for?

Truth never needs an apology.

It's so bizarre that we can't even speak truth.

We can't speak science, and we can't speak truth anymore.

Yeah, but we can.

I mean, I don't know if you heard, by the way, welcome to Pat Gray.

I don't know if you heard the interview we just did with the LA Times columnist.

She's a lefty, but she has been now following Jordan Peterson and, you know, the intellectual dark web.

She's a big fan of Brent Weinstein, who Brett Weinstein, who I'm a big fan of, the guy from Evergreen University.

It's just crazy stuff is happening.

And she was just saying that during the election, her friends just started becoming, you know, not her words, but basically Nazis.

They were, they, all of a sudden, you had to be 100% in lockstep or you were a racist, sexist, whatever.

Well, that kind of happened on the right as well.

It did.

Didn't it?

And I think that there is maybe 70%

of the country, both left and right, that don't want to do that.

Like, for instance,

she was just on, we probably don't agree on an awful lot, but I could live next door to her forever and we could be good neighbors because she's not telling me I don't, I have to live the way she lives or believe the way she believes.

And I wouldn't be doing the same to her.

We could live as neighbors, and that's what America used to be.

Yeah.

And I think there's a growing number of people that are just sick of this.

Sick of it.

I hope so.

I hope so, too.

I'm sure sick of it.

Yeah.

I mean, it's gotten to the point where we just can't even speak to each other

at all.

And when you do, it just results in hate.

And so.

Have you read my book yet?

Not yet.

You've got to read it.

It's not out yet.

No, it's not.

This is the only copy.

It's the first copy off the press.

Wow.

I might let you read it.

I might let you read it.

I think you're going to really.

It's also available on Amazon if you want to just pre-order it and they'll deliver it to you.

Yeah, but I still wouldn't have read it if I'd done that.

Yeah, but you should still order it.

Yeah, you should still order it.

Okay.

I mean, there's not a shot, but Bob Woodward is in his second week.

I think I'm the only book coming out.

Man, I would love to make a dent in the Bob Woodward thing.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

Can you imagine if the second week, again, not a chance, but the second week of Bob Woodward, if he's knocked to number two and we were at number one, A, we would have to sell so many more copies.

Yeah, because the New York Times will just,

they'll put you behind him anyway.

Yeah.

But I mean, it would just be so satisfying.

It would.

So satisfying.

It would.

Anyway,

I think you're going to really like it because

it is

Stu said this morning that

he didn't, I mean, he kind of understood it along the way, but never really put all of it together because I hadn't really put it all together all in one place to understand.

And once you understand what we're dealing with and what the, you'll see the approach will make sense.

You'll be like, oh, okay.

All right.

Got to do that.

Does that mean there's hope to fix it?

Or does it mean that it's not?

I think there is.

I think there is.

And I don't, and Pat, you know me.

I mean,

I was looking,

my instinct was right.

I was looking in the wrong places, and I didn't know why my instinct was telling me to go there.

And so I started reaching out to people on the left, hoping to find an, well, there's not going to be an honest broker.

In the people that I was like, there's not going to be an honest broker.

Right.

Okay.

But then that was a problem.

That was really frustrating.

Really frustrating.

And I gave up.

But these honest brokers are there and they're starting to pop up and they're just as sick of it as we are.

And they see the destructive power that is happening now on both sides, where it is my way or the highway.

That's positive.

That's positive.

Yeah, yeah, it is.

Because most of them are deep thinkers, big, deep thinkers.

That's good.

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaking of Woodward, as we were a moment ago, did you hear the conversation between he and President Trump?

I didn't hear it.

I read it.

Fascinating.

I mean, mean, all 11 minutes or whatever it is are just

fascinating the whole time.

We're going to play that in a few minutes.

And it's, I mean, I don't know where to stop the tape because it's just unbelievable from start to finish for both of them, I think.

Trump seems to have a real affinity for Bob Edward at some level.

Yeah, he does.

And he talks about it.

He's referring to the fact that they've talked and he's been fair.

And

I know you're a fair broker.

Yeah, not so much.

Now, apparently,

not fair.

He got different.

He knew that Trump was aware at this point that the book was not going to be positive.

Yeah.

Well, he kind of admits it.

38%.

He said, so we're going to have a very inaccurate book.

And Bob's like, no, we're not.

We're not.

No, we're not.

I painstakingly went through this and talked to people.

Have you gone through about an hour ago?

Was it an hour ago or so?

Maybe a couple of hours ago.

We did,

I went through the charges in Bob Woodward's book that we know so far and took out all of the he said, she said, all of the stuff that, oh, he's crazy.

Well, he's a retard and all that stuff.

Get rid of all of that because you'll never know.

Unless there's a tape produced, you'll never know.

Okay.

Then look at what Bob is saying is happening in the White House that people are like, yeah, let's not tell the president about this.

Yeah, let's get.

Okay.

Where they're taking stuff off of his desk,

where

he was wanting to to testify, but his lawyers were like, no, no, no, Mr.

President, because

you don't have a grasp necessarily with the truth the same way everyone else does, okay?

To put it nicely, everything I read

seems accurate.

In fact, no surprise.

No surprise.

I absolutely believe.

Are there any serious charges when you take everything out?

No, the only serious charge that I see, and I have to split this in half, is the idea idea that there are people around him that are taking things off his desk because, no, no, no, no, don't show that to the president.

He'll want to do that, and that's a bad idea.

And they're saying it's for public safety or for the, you know, for the national security or for economic security.

But that, I think, let me split this in half.

The press is having a problem with that.

But if you have a problem with this,

don't you have to recognize that the deep state then does exist?

Because isn't that what

the deep state is supposedly doing?

Yeah, because like Cohn and others are kind of treated as heroes in it.

Trump wanted to do these bad things, and they came in, took papers off of his desk, rerouted phone calls, made sure that he didn't make contact with people, and therefore protected the nation.

That's sort of, and now, again, Cohn seems to be one of the big sources.

He hasn't refuted any of these quotes yet.

But take out, protect the nation.

Right.

That's deep state.

Okay.

That's maybe the reason why they're doing it, but I think that's why deep state is, you know, I think that's why the people who've been in the State Department forever are doing it too.

They think they're right.

They're certain that they're right and they have to protect the nation.

So

as you know, CNN is having this problem and, you know, Woodward and everybody is having this problem with them doing that.

Well, on that side,

Then you have to admit that deep state exists.

On the other side, I've heard so many people who voted for Donald Trump saying that's, they knew that was going on.

They wanted that.

He would put good people around him.

Now he's got the bad people out, good people around him, and they're going to stop him from doing anything crazy.

Well, that's what we heard during the campaign.

Right.

So, so where's the problem here?

Right.

There is no problem.

It's what, I mean, it is a problem if you look at what's normal and the way our system is supposed to work.

Yeah, but we're not living in that world.

Not at all.

Not at all.

I mean, it doesn't seem like

his description would not describe a healthy work environment by any means.

Does anyone think working for Donald Trump

in the Trump hotel?

Yeah.

Would be

chaotic, I bet.

The White House is always an insane place to work at some level.

And he is a guy who loves chaos.

I mean,

he doesn't have to be president of the United States.

We all know that working for Donald Trump would be nuts.

Would be nuts one way or another.

It's nuts.

The guy could come in at any time and go, you know what we're going to do?

And everybody would be like, oh, dear God, what?

I mean,

but in a different way, read Steve Jobs' book.

Read the book about Steve Jobs that came out.

The people at Apple were like, don't tell Steve that.

Don't tell Steve that.

Or we're going to be doing that.

That's what happens when you're dealing with people who are innovators, crazy or not.

That's what happens.

You've got a bunch of people who are like, look, this could destroy the company.

Don't tell Steve Jobs that.

That's the same thing.

They praise it with Steve Jobs.

They hate it with Donald Trump.

And anybody who's fighting against this because you think he's being smeared, I heard many of you say you wanted that.

They put a team together, one of the big revelations, they put a council together to vet his tweets.

Now, he rejected it.

Well, I heard a lot of people who voted voted for Donald Trump going, I wish he would just, I wish somebody would take his Twitter away.

I wish they would just take his Twitter away.

Well, they tried to.

He didn't let them do it.

Okay.

What?

Why is anyone who's a supporter of Donald Trump angry at this other than the he said, she said, which is meaningless?

Yeah.

Yeah.

The names that were being called.

Especially since he won't name any of the names.

Right.

And we're not going to ever know who said any of those things, supposedly.

So you just discount them.

Right.

You can't.

You'll never know.

So So it's meaningless to argue about it.

You know, there's the worst thing that I saw in here about Donald Trump was that he is volatile.

He can fly into rages.

And he apparently likes to humiliate people.

Yeah.

What a revelation.

It's not a revelation.

He's most famous for saying you're fired.

Of course he likes to humiliate people.

There's nothing new in this movie.

There's nothing new.

All right.

Thanks, Patrick.

Be listening for

the audio.

I read the transcript.

I bet the audio is fascinating.

It's pretty entertaining.

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Good, I like that.

That I should apologize to the father of

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Two days ago, he stated he was going to do something at the Kavanaugh hearing to block the nomination.

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