'Comply or Be Destroyed'? - 8/16/18

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Glenn Beck

Hello America.

I want to take you back to June.

The Supreme Court ruled in favor of the masterpiece cake shop owner Jack Phillips after he refused to make a custom wedding cake for a same-sex wedding.

We all remember this, but I will

remind you that

when that

case was settled and the ruling came out, we read it carefully and said we were concerned that what the court was actually doing, Anthony Kennedy, was saying, you know, look, state of Colorado, here's what you did wrong.

If you just wink, wink, nod, nod, don't say these things,

this would probably fly through.

I was concerned at the time that this was

an instruction manual for how states could discriminate quietly.

The problem was, as the court said, you discriminated outwardly.

You said it was because of his religion.

You can't do that.

But if you didn't do that,

the left is after him again.

And I have to tell you,

I don't know how this guy goes on.

He's a baker.

My father was a baker.

My father fought to keep

his business running.

He had all kinds of pressures on him.

Usual business pressures.

And then the stores, the grocery stores, started making cakes, and they started making baked goods.

And they'd make them right there in the grocery stores, which hadn't been done.

And my father's business just took another hit, and another hit, and another hit.

The stress on a small business owner is enough.

Now, here's a guy who is so faithful to what he believes, you don't have to believe it, but what he believes that he won't even make a cake for Halloween.

Okay?

he says it's against my religion.

I don't believe Halloween is a good thing.

Now, I know some people who are like, oh, trick-or-treating, that's just bad.

I'm not one of those guys.

And in fact, I think you're taking things too seriously.

However, I may be wrong.

I let my kids go trick-or-treating, and I don't have a problem with it.

And I, quite frankly, when I was younger, I probably made fun of people who were like, oh my gosh, Halloween is so bad.

I don't anymore because I,

who am I to say what is ultimately true and not?

You can believe whatever you want.

Isn't that what America is really all about?

So here's a guy who won't make a cake for Halloween, and they are harassing him.

They have tried to get him to make cakes

in the shape of Satan's penis.

I don't know how they know what that is looks like, but I mean they've done everything.

Tried to make him make cakes for drug use,

Satanism,

orgies.

I feel sorry for his staff.

My mother and my sisters used to be the ones that worked the front of the counter and my dad and I would work in the back.

My sisters and my mother were the ones that used to have to take the phone call.

I don't know how anybody survives an onslaught, persecution, not prosecution, persecution,

taking phone calls and having people describe how they want the phallic symbol to look and him to make the cake.

How much does somebody have to take in today's America?

Same guy's been coming in over and over again, trying to get him to make all kinds of cakes.

And finally, he said, I want a transgender cake.

I'm

making the transition cake.

And I want pink cake and blue icing because it shows my fluidity.

He said no.

So now the Colorado Civil Rights Commission is going after him for discrimination.

Colorado, you really should be ashamed of yourself.

You really should be.

Why?

Why?

Why do you...

Why do you feel it is your right to be able to force anyone to do something against their conscience?

This guy is not just some bigot.

This guy won't make a Halloween cake

This guy deeply believes in something

What are you gonna do you gonna burn him at the stake next

When he still won't make the cake, what do you want from him?

You want compliance.

That's what you want.

You want compliance.

The guy has a conscience and you may disagree with it, but it is a deeply held belief

you can call it crazy or whatever you want but it's not about you

how did you feel when people forced you into the closet because of their deeply held belief Didn't feel good, did it?

When you had to live a lie, when you had to pretend to be something just so you weren't persecuted and prosecuted.

Boy, look at that.

How times have changed.

Boy, you're showing them, huh?

Yeah, you're showing people what it was like to feel like that.

Oh my gosh.

I understand that, but that is the basest

of human indignity.

That is...

That is an

animal man,

understandable feeling.

But what makes you actually a human is you are not, you are above the animal kingdom, and you strive to be more.

And you say, I am going to suppress my animal desire to rip the throats out of anybody who disagrees with me because I was forced to do this for so long.

And in doing so, if you do not suppress it, you become everything you despise.

So here's this guy

who just wants to have a bakery.

That's it.

He's becoming one of the most famous bakers in the world.

Why?

You didn't see anybody filing lawsuits because he wouldn't make a Halloween cake or a Valentine's cake.

He's had enough.

And quite honestly,

if you can't put yourself in his shoes,

I question whether or not

you're even connected to anything other than politics and political correctness.

We're talking about human beings.

Who didn't

for Caitlin Jenner?

I don't call Bruce Jenner Caitlin Jenner because

people force me to.

I don't refer to him as her, even though X and Y man, science, science, biology says he will always be a man.

But I refer to Bruce Jenner as Caitlin, and I say

he's her.

Not because it's scientific fact, and not because anybody put a gun to my head.

I say it because I have compassion for him.

I say it because when I first heard his story about how he lived his entire life and he felt he was a fraud the whole time.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry you had to live that way.

I don't know what I would do.

I know what I can do.

I can show you compassion.

But that's not even good enough.

That's not even good enough.

I have to claim that Caitlin Jenner is a beautiful, strong woman.

No.

no.

She's not beautiful.

She looks like a man in a wig with a dress.

If he f if if if if he wants to identify as a woman,

okay.

All right,

it doesn't affect my life.

I am not going to teach my children

something that is not based in science.

But that's me.

That's my choice.

That's my choice.

From my conscience of what I believe is right.

Just like you have a conscience and what you feel is right, you have a right to do.

But I don't have a right to force you to live what I think is right, and you don't have a right to force me.

We

you know how many billions of people are on the planet?

There's a lot of us.

I don't think we're all going to agree on stuff.

In this lawsuit, Phillips says that his family has lost 40% of his income due to just the harassment he has received.

He says he and his employees are forced to complete a re-education program.

When I talk to you about the re-education camps that China is building,

we're disgusted by that.

We're no different now.

He has to go into a re-education program about not exercising his faith at work.

Well, you know, that's the problem with Christians.

It really is.

I don't even know what it means to be a Christian anymore.

I really don't.

No idea.

You know why?

Because nobody really lives it.

Oh, they all go on Sunday and we all pretend.

And then you leave and you become just as judgmental over the things you're doing in your life, but oh boy, God forbid somebody else does it.

You preach and preach and preach and preach and preach

while you live completely upside down gospel principles.

I don't even know.

I don't want to be a Christian.

If that's what a Christian is, I don't want to be a Christian.

I've had a real crisis of faith.

No, no, no.

My faith is so strong.

My faith in Jesus Christ is so strong.

My faith in God is so strong.

My faith in religion?

It's awful.

My faith in Christians?

Wow.

And I don't say this as a judgmental Christian because I'm a bad Christian.

At least I'll admit it.

At least I'm not going to try to jam it down anybody's throat.

But now there are other people on the other side.

Why do you hate Christians?

Because they've tried to jam it down your throat the whole time while being hypocrites.

Oh my gosh.

Well, let's become them.

I know what's true and so I'm going to jam it down your throat.

And if you won't comply, I'll destroy you.

The Declaration of Independence, just

before a list of specific grievances against King George, Thomas Jefferson wrote these words.

To prove this, he's talking about the king's tyranny, let facts be submitted to a candid world.

I wonder, do candid citizens in the U.S.

notice

the tyranny against personal liberty, religious liberty,

freedom of conscience.

That that oppression is not coming from the right right now?

Oh, sure, there are some.

And I will stand against those.

I'll stand with you.

Somebody comes to round you up.

Somebody comes to tell you what to think.

And I have a history of proving that action.

It's not words.

I'll stand with you.

And I believe millions of other Americans will do the same.

Let's leave each other alone.

The left used to be like, hey man do your own thing you do you i'll do me not anymore

that's not true that is not the typical leftist philosophy anymore

now it's postmodernism there is no truth except the truth that destroys this culture And if you think I'm exaggerating, read postmodernism.

There is no truth unless it destroys this culture.

And if it destroys this culture, anything goes.

Are we still a country that believes in liberty

and justice for all?

Or are we only interested in liberty, in freedom to think and to be?

This way and this way only.

And justice, not for all, but only for a vetted list of oppressed groups.

We have gone back 50 years

in the last

10.

And I think about 40 of it has happened in the last five.

The left is confident in its ownership of the word bigot to slap on whomever it deems necessary.

Let's just go and say

let's just say the truth because no one else will

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Can we have adult conversations?

Can we not, like MSNBC last night, do a segment on whether Donald Trump hates dogs?

And, because I hate cats and they don't seem to care about that.

Can we just, can we have adult conversations?

There's a couple of things I warned you that when you started to hear talk like this, that you should probably head for the mountains.

One was if you start to see stories that talk about rehypothecation, run for your life.

Forbes just ran a story this week on rehypothecation.

If you don't know what it is, look it up or I'll explain it some other show when it really starts to be a problem.

And you should head for the hills.

The other thing I said is our debt and our dollar is going to eventually crush the rest of the world because everything is traded in dollars and debt is in dollars with other countries.

And so as our dollar is strong and our debt is huge and their debt is huge,

when things start to become unbalanced, people will start to starve.

Economies will start to crash.

And because everything's traded in a dollar, if ours is the strongest, most floaty piece of poop in the toilet bowl, our currency,

everybody else is going to point to us and blame this on us and our lifestyle and our mistakes.

Because whether it's right or wrong, politicians will have to point to a villain, and it will be us.

They will look at their starving people and say, this is America's fault.

There's an analyst that I read just this morning, and I wanted to get him on as soon as possible.

He is an analyst of note that says this may be the beginning of something very bad.

He's on next.

Glenn, back.

Mercury.

So

I came in this morning and one of my researchers said, Glenn, there's a guy I really respect.

And

I read something from him.

And then I read people saying that I really respect this is probably the most important thing this guy has ever written.

And

it goes into a long-standing

fear of mine that when the currencies begin to collapse, the dollar, because it's the floatiest piece of poop in the toilet bowl,

is

everybody will rush into the dollar, which will make our dollar stronger, make the problem worse,

because

if your debt is in dollars and your currency is going down as a country and you're trying to buy stuff from the U.S., food or whatever, it's going to be a disaster for people all over the world.

And when that happens, those politicians will not want to take the blame.

They'll look right directly to us and say, it's their fault.

But we could be on the verge of a real currency crisis.

I wanted to bring in Jacob Shapiro,

who just wrote about this.

He is the director of analysis for geopolitical futures.

He was with Stratfor for a while.

And welcome to the program, Jacob.

Glenn, thanks so much for having me.

It's nice to be here.

Thank you.

So

tell me your concern here.

Well, look, my concern is that if you look at the growth, And as you said, U.S.

dollar-denominated debt from about, starting at about 1990 to today, in 1990 it was about something like 600 billion in the entire world today it's 11.5 trillion so already you see the kind of irrational growth in an asset class that you would probably most associate with a bubble

the problem on top of that is that you have some countries that borrowed a lot of this US dollar denominated debt to fuel growth and to recover from the 2008 financial crisis borrowing dollars is actually usually a pretty good idea the problem is they have become addicted to it.

And in a lot of cases, their reserves

can't even cover their U.S.

dollar denominated debt, let alone their total external debt.

So Turkey was sort of the canary in the coal mine.

It's the first one.

But if you start poking around and you start looking at other national balance sheets,

four countries that look kind of like Turkey are Chile, Argentina, Mexico, Indonesia.

Those are

four major countries with major economies, and that's before we even get into any kind of of the other countries so that's why i'm so worried about this um okay so tell me what happens tell me what this currency uh i mean what this this dollar denominated debt means to the average person can you explain it break it down on what what happens what does that mean

well what that means you've we've sort of gotten an example of it in turkey right now so we can use that as a test case What happens is when investors stop having confidence in a particular country and start pulling out dollars, you get a rush and you get a decline in the value of the currency of that country.

So in Turkey, you've seen their national currency declining.

That means two things.

Number one, for daily Joe Schmo on the street, it becomes harder to buy things.

The things that you are used to buying are going to cost more, especially those nice things that you're importing, not just from the United States, from Europe and other places.

But what's more concerning is especially for a country like Turkey is you're losing the ability to actually pay back the debt you've incurred in the first place.

So that's not something Joe Schmo is necessarily going to feel until a little bit down the line.

But when you start looking at the relationships between different countries, you start talking about Turkey not being able to make good on the roughly $200 billion of U.S.

dollar-denominated debt it's got in its system.

And as you said, then the United States has to decide what is it going to do.

Is it going to try and pressure Turkey?

Is it going to try and move Turkey in the direction that it wants to?

Is Turkey going to eventually have to default if there is enough of a crisis and if investors really run for the sidelines?

Those are the two main ways to think about what's going to happen.

And so we become kind of Germany to

the last crisis, Greece.

Well, in a way, although Germany is a slightly different case, and the big difference between the United States and Germany is that Germany...

Germany's economy is built off of exports.

Something like half of Germany's GDP comes from exporting and getting people to buy their goods.

What Germany did was Germany was lending out a bunch of money intentionally to get these European countries that otherwise wouldn't have been able to afford German goods to buy them.

And then when those countries suddenly couldn't pay the Germans back, the Germans were very shocked.

They shouldn't have been, because if you're loaning to the Greeks,

you might expect that the Greeks eventually aren't going to be able to make good on it.

Yeah,

it's funny, but

it's true.

I mean, they're dealing with it with the Italians right now, too.

So when you think about, you know, should Greeks have the same monetary policy as Germany, that's the whole problem of the European Union.

But that's a rabbit hole.

The difference is that the United States does not depend that much on exports.

I know that the current U.S.

presidential administration has been focusing a lot on trade and a lot on trying to build up U.S.

exports and making U.S.

exports more competitive.

But right now, exports as a percentage of U.S.

GDP just aren't that big.

So this wasn't like the United States Federal Reserve or the United States decided that it was going to lend out all this money so that people would buy U.S.

goods and prop up the economy.

This was really people saw the dollar, they saw really loose monetary policy in the United States, but also in other places, and they took the dollar and they were running with it.

What you have now is the United States is saying, okay, this has been 10 years since 2008.

We're going to start raising interest rates.

We're going to start really rationalizing this economy and making sure that this recovery doesn't just continue on in the back of government stimulus forever.

And when you have that, the U.S.

acting in its own self-interest, it's causing problems for a lot of different countries.

So the real difference between U.S.

and Germany here is that I would say Germany was kind of screwed in 2008.

The United States is not screwed here.

It might get caught holding the bag, but that just means the dollar is going to strengthen.

You're going to see, as you said, more dollars coming into the United States.

The underlying basis of the U.S.

economy is fairly well insulated as opposed to where Germany was in 2008.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So, Jacob,

are we looking at the real possibility of currency collapse in these countries?

I think so.

And I mentioned those four countries.

The four that I'm most concerned about are Chile, Argentina, Mexico, Indonesia.

The only one of those countries that has not seen its currency waver in a big way so far this year is Mexico.

And they're sitting on $270 billion worth of USD debt.

That's the second highest total of any country in the world right now.

And when you look at their gross external debt, you've got a more populist president who's coming in with a lot of ideas about social spending.

I'm pretty worried about about Mexico.

But if Mexico, if Mexico's currency fails, what does that look like

in real life to us?

What does that mean?

Well, that means a lot of political instability in Mexico.

That means that you're going to have a, you know, if we think that the migrant issue across the Mexican border into the United States is serious now, you ain't seen nothing yet if this actually comes to pass because people are going to be fleeing to try and get some semblance of stability.

The Mexican government itself, whether the previous administration or the new one coming in, has been under pressure for a host of other different reasons.

This is the last thing that they sort of need.

But, you know, Mexico would be a very serious one for the United States, and it's one of the ones I'm most worried about.

But the real reason this is so worrying is because, like I said, there's $11.5 trillion of this debt

floating around out there.

Some of the countries we know, some of the countries don't report it.

I tried to email the Bank of International Settlements yesterday and asked for some more clarity on some of the countries that were holding this debt.

And they said, well, for confidentiality reasons, some countries we can't even release.

So, in some sense, it's hard to get a real scope of the problem.

But this is global.

This is something like the Asian financial crisis of 97, 98, 2008 subprime global crisis.

It could have that kind of transformative political impact across the world if it nosedives.

Does the trade war play a role in this at all?

The trade war plays a role in the sense that the trade war,

in addition to raising interest rates in the United States, all of that is strengthening the U.S.

dollar.

So the trade war is sort of one small part of a number of different things that are causing a stronger U.S.

dollar.

So I wouldn't call it even one of the main movers, but you can't dismiss it.

And it's one of the things that in these countries is causing some panic.

One thing that I've been concerned about is this allegiance between Russia, Turkey,

and Iran,

and

they're all having currency problems.

They're all

being pushed into a corner.

And

desperate people do desperate things.

Are you concerned at all about

the unholy alliance here that

when pushed into a corner in a currency crisis that they might strike out?

Well, you know, I'm not worried about the unholy alliance striking in any particular place the way that you say, mostly because I think that alliance is mostly fake and

is mostly a PR bit.

Russia and Iran, in particular, do not trust each other farther than they can throw each other.

Russia has been trying to get Iran to pull back in Syria because Russia doesn't want all these issues with Israel and with the United States in the Middle East.

Russia was really looking to help kick Islamic State's butt, to just get Assad sort of stabilized and then to pull out and declare mission accomplished.

They've been trying to do that for a while.

Now, I would say I'm very worried about Iran in terms of its internal domestic stability.

You've had political competition there between sort of more reformists and pragmatists.

This is, of course, in Iran, so what we would think of as reformists is not exactly what they're saying.

The ones that are more on the reformist side are currently in the government.

They staked a lot on the Iran nuclear deal.

And when the Trump administration pulled the United States out of the Iran nuclear deal, it sent sent the Iranian economy into a tailspin.

And you can see the sort of push and pull inside of Iran.

So I'm much more worried from Iran's perspective, not about where it's going to lash out, but whether the current regime can survive.

So does that look, is there a chance that that looks like 1979 in reverse, that there is a freedom movement afoot?

Well, the reason I don't think it can look quite like 1979 is because the IRGC, which is the Iranian Revolutionary Republican Guard,

they are sort of the guarantor of the 1979 revolution, right?

And what's different between 79 and now is that in 79, the Shah, even with all of his domestic security apparatus, he didn't have the same level of control right now that the IRGC does.

There was a recent, I think it was even an Iranian government study that said that the IRGC controls something like 60 to 70 percent of the Iranian economy.

Wow.

So, and they have hundreds of thousands of soldiers and security personnel that are throughout the entire country.

So, I'm not so much worried about a revolution or a return to 1979.

What I am concerned about is you have the extinguishing of that pragmatist voice in Iranian politics, and instead you have the IRGC basically willing to do whatever it wants.

Because until now, Iran, though a lot of Americans see it as aggressive, it's really been balancing between these two different factions.

If you had the IRGC take over, you'd be looking at a much more aggressive Iran, if you can imagine.

Jacob, thank you so much.

Thanks for the update.

We'll continue to watch.

If you see something and you think the word needs to get out, please contact us as well.

But thank you so much.

Jacob Shapiro, you can follow him at Jacob Shapp, S-H-A-P, Jacob Shapp, on Twitter.

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i went to see ben shapiro last night here in uh dallas at the uh toyota music uh center and it was

it was great It was really great.

Really entertaining, too.

Yeah.

First time he's ever done that.

And he went out and he recorded his podcast and then took questions from the audience.

And I've never seen him like that.

Very funny.

Uh,

you know,

he was really funny.

Really funny.

Yeah, the black-black card is a, I'm not going to tell you the whole joke, but it's a great, it's one of the best jokes I've heard in a very long time.

It was a great one.

He was really entertaining.

Yeah.

And it was a lot of fun, plus, really interesting.

I mean, Ben's so smart.

And, you know, so you're always going to get good, solid analysis.

And it's nice to see.

I sat in the crowd and

I came in and then he said, hey, Glenn Beck is here.

And then the, then the.

Was that the part with the dead silence in the crowd?

I remember that with

weird silence.

No, but then we hit intermission and then the

jig was up.

So, gosh, is that racist?

What does jig mean?

I don't know.

I don't know.

But yeah, there were a lot of people coming over for pictures.

It was nice.

It was cool.

It was really nice because I got a chance to meet his fans who are also mine.

And

what was nice, and i wrote to him afterwards and because i try to remember everything that people told me and you know i met people from canada and from chicago and california and seattle and uh atlanta people flew in from all over the country for this yeah uh and what was touching and i i wrote to ben last night and i said

uh you know

People want you to know that they support you.

They're coming out because it's going to be a good show and they, you know, hope to see you and, you know, whatever.

But they, I think they just want you to know how much they support you.

And that's, that's hard to realize sometimes

because, you know, he's backstage with a bunch of security and doesn't necessarily see it.

Yeah, he's in Phoenix.

He's in Phoenix tonight.

So if you're in Phoenix,

go see it.

It's a really good thing.

It's really worth it.

It's worth it.

Funny, funny, funny.

Washington Post had a headline Tuesday.

And I, you know, look, when newspapers were newspapers, they didn't have to worry about clickability so they can maybe have a little more truth in their headlines, I guess.

But here's the headline from the Washington Post.

White supremacist rally cost D.C.

at least $2.6 million preliminary estimate show.

Wait, okay, hang on just a second.

I mean, I understand the click thing.

Who's going to get more clicks, Antifa or white supremacists?

White supremacist, I'm sure.

That's the better bet.

And it's only because, you know, the press isn't telling everybody really how dangerous Antifa is.

So they're like, oh, they're the good guys fighting for truth, justice, and well, not exactly the American way.

So

how can you tell me, Washington Post, how can you say with a straight face that this white supremacist thing was even a rally?

A,

and then the estimated cost was $2.6 million.

That's over $100,000 for every white supremacist that showed up because there were only about 24 people.

You could have given them all 50 grand.

You could have gotten it for a half price.

Hey, would you just go home?

Here's 50 grand.

And they would have gone home.

Washington Post said, well, it was fewer than 40 supporters.

Well, yes, it was.

It was 24.

It's not hard to estimate the crowd when you can count them.

So, not to, you know, defend the white supremacist lowlifes who did show up, but apparently they were peaceful.

It was the hundreds of Antifa members who actually skirmished with police because there was only 24 losers.

They were like, I don't want to fight this crowd.

I mean, sure, I'm a Nazi, but, you know, I'm not crazy.

So long after the rally was over and those two dozen people left, Antifa lit smoke bombs and firecrackers through exit police.

They knocked over trash cans.

They yelled at police to get out of their cars.

You gotta meet us in the streets.

So the Post explains that the $2.6 million price tag was for staffing and overtime for Washington, D.C.'s 3,900-member police force.

Law enforcement needed to respond with a massive

presence to keep the white supremacists physically separated from thousands of counter-protesters.

Okay.

Okay.

So that's not the white supremacists' fault.

That's the counter-protesters that were in the thousands.

I think, you know, two or three guys probably could have handled the 24.

It was the thousands.

Now, once you arrived and you saw that there were, you know, 24.

I can use that number.

I don't have to say 20-something or around 20.

You could get out of your car.

You could stay in your car and count the entire crowd there were 24

why didn't you you know send a few of those 3900 officers home and save yourself a million bucks or so

because

it wasn't the white supremacists

2.6 million dollars is insane for a non-event but the reality is

And the misleading part of the headline is that the bulk of the police effort and expense didn't have to focus on the puny pathetic racist rally.

They had to focus on keeping the anarchist thugs in ninja suits from tearing up and burning down the city.

And that is your headline.

It's Thursday, August 16th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

So last, I think it was last week, by the way, Aretha Franklin has passed away.

She was 76 years old.

She's been sick for the last few days.

And so our condolences to Aretha Franklin.

I think it was last week, we read this amazing article from Vox, and it was amazing for a couple of reasons.

One, it was

stunning in the math.

What does it cost?

What

Democratic socialists are proposing?

What is the actual cost?

And it wasn't the numbers from the right or some right think tank.

These were a lot of these numbers were from either the CBO,

from

the government,

or from the left.

And so they took those numbers and added them up.

Now, that's a staggering thing in and of itself.

We'll get to in a second.

But the fact that it was in Vox,

I don't even know how that happened.

It was like, I think we slipped through a wormhole and we're in another universe.

It's definitely one of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

I'm not sure which one it is.

Right.

But it's one of them.

But it's one of them.

Brian Riedel is the senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and he is the author of this really great article, and he joins us now.

Hi, Brian.

Hi, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm great.

Could I just start with how the hell did you get that done?

Well,

Vox has often prided themselves on being very empirical, and they say, you know, we're not liberal.

we just go where the data says.

And that's kind of an argument you hear a lot.

We're not ideological, we go where the data says.

Yeah, but I hear that from MSNBC.

I don't believe it.

I messaged them and said, you've been writing a lot on democratic socialism.

Well, if you're interested in where the numbers go, would you be willing to publish this piece that shows you exactly what they cost?

And to their credit, they said, sure.

It took a few weeks to get it published.

Sure, sure.

But, you know,

I told them, you know, if you're interested in going where the numbers go as you claim, this is an important contribution to the debate.

In a way, that actually makes it more impressive, that they didn't just take your piece and run it because they wanted to give lip service to

the conservative side of the aisle.

I mean, this is ⁇

you look at this, and I think it's important the way you approached it, which was not to take the Heritage Foundation numbers or the Manhattan Institute numbers or something like that.

You took government and left-wing numbers.

So it was not tilted against people, against Democratic Socialists.

You took their own numbers and showed just where the money goes.

Yeah, I wanted to make it as bulletproof as possible.

I bent over backwards to give them every benefit of the doubt.

For instance,

the score of the government jobs guarantee is probably going to be triple what they claim it is.

Oh, yeah, I saw the number and I was like, there's no way.

There's no way that number is that small.

I'm going to give you all of your numbers.

I'm even going to give you huge spending offsets later to help pay for it that are totally implausible too.

I don't want the left to be able to pick apart any part of this report because you know if you find one spot where you substitute in your own judgment,

they'll pick apart the entire report and go right-wing bias.

So I made sure not to have a single right-wing source or conservative interpretation in the entire paper.

And to illustrate this, can you dive in a little bit on the jobs number?

Because you're right.

There's no way it costs what they say it does, even though you gave them the benefit of the doubt on it.

Yeah,

the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities did the numbers and said that if you were to guarantee anybody a job at - they assumed $12 an hour, but now we're hearing $15 an hour, and said anybody in America who walks off in on the street can get a guaranteed job for $12 or $15 an hour full-time.

It would cost about $55,000 a year per person when you include the cost of benefits, health care, everything else.

Well, what they assumed is that the only people who would sign up for this are people who are currently unemployed and looking for a job.

They're assuming nobody.

There are about 60 million people who are currently earning less than $15 an hour.

Do you know how many people just they're already just clocking in?

They don't care what they do.

And to be able to have a job where you really could never be fired would be a dream come true to a lot of people in this nation.

And if you have a difficult job, if you're a landscaper doing really hard work or a machinist doing really hard work and you're making a little bit under $15 an hour, a cushy government job make work job, you know, maybe

painting murals like the 1930s sounds pretty good.

Even if you're a retiree who's on a fixed income, you might hear guaranteed $15 an hour can't be fired.

Where do I sign up?

They assumed not a single person

would sign up for this program who is not currently unemployed and just desperate for a job.

Not only would you get every single person who makes, let's say, $9 an hour, why would you stay at your $9 an hour job when there's a guaranteed $15 an hour job across the street?

But you'd even, I bet you'd get people who had difficult 17 and 18 jobs leaving those to go to the easy 15.

I mean, this, this, this would be the cost of this program would be almost, it would almost be

impossible to estimate.

If you had back, as you said, like landscapers, backbreaking labor, and you could get something, you know,

you go home and your wife will say to you, you got to stop, or you'll say to her, I've got to stop doing this.

It's killing me.

Why wouldn't you take $3 less an hour?

Of course course you would.

Exactly.

And their numbers assume even if none of these currently employed people sign up, it would still be $6.8 trillion over the decade.

If

you done the estimate of what you really think it is, yeah, I think it would probably be closer to $20 or $25 trillion over the decade for that program.

That's incredible.

I think it would be triple or quadruple.

They're assuming about 9 or 10 million unemployed people.

Well, there's really a universe of about 70 or 80 people, 70 or 80 million people who would benefit from this.

Even if you assume 30 million sign up,

you've just tripled, or I'm sorry, you've just quadrupled the cost from $6.8 trillion over 10 years to closer to $25 trillion.

So I was giving them every benefit of the doubt.

I said, okay, your numbers are bunk, but I'm going to give you $6.8 trillion anyway, just because I don't want anyone to be able to complain.

Okay, so now take us through.

Let me take a quick break.

And then I want you to take us through what Democratic Socialists say.

You know, this is what we need.

And this doesn't include a lot of the stuff that I know is on the slippery slope.

You got to have this too.

I mean,

if you're going for the Rolls-Royce, I mean,

you have to have the upgraded stereo.

So

it's just the strip down what the Democratic Socialists say they want and we can afford and the price tag using their numbers.

You'll notice they always go to a break.

Well, how do we pay for this?

They always go to a break, but they'll usually just summarize it in the, well, we're out of time, but let me just tell you this.

We're the richest country in the world.

And how can we not afford this?

It sounds like a con job.

I've given my wife a million times on if I want to buy a new car.

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Brian Riedel, who is becoming one of our favorite writers

on the economy and tax proposals and everything else.

We've quoted Brian of several of your articles here recently.

But we're really impressed with the work that you did on this and to make it bulletproof against the left picking it apart.

Taking their numbers, what does National Socialism actually look like?

Let's show us the menu here and show us each piece and then the grand total.

Sure.

The biggest pieces are, of course,

socialized medicine.

Single-payer health care would cost,

according to not just the right, but according to the Urban Institute, liberal think tank, and according to a single-payer advocate at Emory University, $32 trillion over 10 years.

That's the biggest.

$32 trillion for single-payer health care.

What do you think a real number is?

Is that a real number?

I think you could probably add about $5 trillion to that

because, again, you're going to have huge new demand.

When you're told that every medical procedure you could ever want is free without a dollar copay for everybody, that tends

people tend to get some of the more optional things done that they may not have otherwise done.

But wouldn't they just

just wouldn't be covered.

I mean, you know, wouldn't the government just say, hey, well, that open-heart surgery, you know, that doesn't need to be done necessarily.

That's what happens once everyone takes advantage.

You promise everything.

Okay.

And then when everyone takes advantage and the government goes bankrupt, they go, oh, my goodness, we have to start rationing.

Okay, all right.

Okay, so 32 there.

32 there.

6.8 trillion is the absurdly low jobs guarantee.

So now you're at about 38.8 trillion.

There's also democratic plans to give everybody free college tuition, 0.8 trillion.

Pay

free college tuition is how much?

Well, and this is another lowball.

They say 800 billion over 10 years to make every public university free.

Not a chance.

No way.

What's the real number?

Oh, it's double that because you know what's going to happen?

People who are currently thinking of going to private schools are going to say, well, I can pay $40,000 to go to a private school or nothing to go to a public school.

There will be a stampede into public schools.

Additionally, the universities will raise all their costs because they know the feds will pay it off.

So

it'll be double that.

Okay, all right.

Then you got student loan forgiveness.

We're just going to pay off everybody's student loans.

That's $1.4 trillion.

Now, is that a real number?

Approximately, yeah.

$1.4 to $1.6 trillion.

Okay.

The Democrats have pledged a trillion-dollar infrastructure buildup.

They haven't specified what it would be, but they just said

we want to spend a trillion on infrastructure.

Doesn't Donald Trump want to spend more than a trillion?

That's not a real number.

It's the aisle.

I think a trillion dollars.

We'll negotiate that one to a higher level.

Probably.

And then the final two are paid family leave, which is about $300 billion.

What's the real number?

Probably closer to $400 billion, I would say.

And Sanders has a proposal, a vague proposal to expand Social Security by about $200 billion.

That's the real number, but I would be surprised if he stops there, if he actually has a chance to expand Social Security.

Basically, he would expand the minimum benefit.

And so you add all those up, you get $42.5 trillion.

If you get back to your question of how much would it really cost, honestly, probably closer to $60 or $65 trillion.

Okay, so only $65 trillion.

$65 trillion.

Now, that's the only thing that's going to be a lot of money.

Which is $10 trillion more than the entire GDP in a year of this country.

Well, the GDP right now is $20 trillion.

Is what?

$20 trillion.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

No, all the money.

Sorry.

I'm sorry.

All the money in the world

is $55 trillion.

All the actual cash in the world is $55 trillion.

Yeah, I mean, one way of looking at it is over the next decades, the entire federal taxes will take in about $42 trillion over the next 10 years.

So if you're going to spend $44 to ⁇ or $42 to say $65 trillion, you're more than doubling taxes in the size of government.

It's incredible.

But it's only the rich people.

Brian, this does not include sort of some loose proposals we've heard about guaranteed housing, for example.

And there's, I mean, there's more than they want to do than even this.

I don't know if they've been scored by a legitimate source, but they've tossed around a lot of things in the Alexandria Casio-Cortez sort of world.

Oh, they've said, you know, bigger welfare state, guaranteed housing,

bigger SNAP benefits, higher special education funding, huge national education

K-12 initiative.

Those just haven't been specified and scored yet.

So, you know, don't think they're going to implement this $42.5 trillion and then stop there and be satisfied.

I mean, there's always something to expand.

The chance that common sense is going to rule the day

would be

I've got about 10 seconds.

Give me a pressure.

The reality is they could win every seat in November and they'll still never get this stuff enacted.

Because once people see the tax hikes,

once people see that you have to have your taxes doubled, it doesn't matter how many seats they hold.

They could never pass this.

Brian, thank you so much.

God bless you.

Thanks for your hard work.

Back in just a second.

Can you think of anybody that you believe is truly, truly a great

man?

Now,

have you ever met that man?

Really gotten to know him?

I have met people that I believe are truly great men

and the closer I get to them the more flaws I see.

I'm away from them and I think that is the most amazing man and then if I'm allowed in I can stand next to them and I'm like wow that doesn't really

jive with what you say here.

And you see that this great man

is not perfect.

He's doing things that, you know, don't seem consistent.

My father used to say,

life is nothing but a series of choices.

And you have to make the best choice you can at the time and then live with the consequences.

But you won't have any regrets if you really, truly try to make the best, most honest, genuine, and decent choice you can.

But you're going to screw it up.

Yesterday, Governor Cuomo, and he's only saying this because he's in a primary, Because Cynthia Nixon is moving him to the left, pushing him even farther to the left.

Because that's the Democratic Socialists, they're all losing.

They're losing all around the country.

Nobody's into it.

The moderates, that's where the Democrats actually want to be.

The farther left they move as a party, the more that those candidates lose.

With the exception of places where it is so red.

I mean, it's mainly, it's so red, and it's because of the blood that is shot out of everybody's eyes.

Okay.

But they're moving so far left.

So Nixon doesn't have a chance of winning.

She's just trying to push Cuomo

closer to her socialist utopian vision.

Okay.

And he's got to play to the crowd.

So what does he say?

Well, America's not great.

Now, I want you to listen to what he said.

Play from yesterday.

Here's Governor Cuomo of New York.

And look, the simple point is all this comes down to this.

We're not going to make America great again.

It was never that great.

We have not reached greatness.

We will reach greatness

when every American is fully engaged.

Stop for a second.

Tell me

which country in history has had every

Roman, every, you know, every German fully engaged.

Now I can think of a couple.

You could say the former Soviet Union, everybody was fully engaged, mainly because you'd go to a gulag if you weren't.

But does that make a great country?

When they're fully engaged, remember, we live with humans.

They're not robots.

They're humans.

Some humans make the choice.

I don't want to do anything.

I don't mind living on the street.

There are some people that live on the street.

And I don't know what the numbers are or the breakup, but there are some people that want to live on the street.

There are other people that just want to game the system.

They're not fully engaged.

They're just gaming the system.

They want the least, the path of least resistance.

So So you're never going to have an America or any country where every citizen is fully engaged.

Next claim.

We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51% of our population is gone.

Stop.

And we're going to do that by discriminating against men?

We're going to attack and target white men.

You know, we'll be great when discrimination is a thing of the past.

Well, that's quite a utopian statement, but no one has ever achieved that.

No one has even come close.

We are getting closer, or we were.

We were making great strides.

But

we're not going to achieve.

No discrimination.

It's not going to happen.

Why?

Because it's the human flaw.

So here's the thing.

To say America was, and I want to quote him, never that great

is not an insult.

It's not an insult.

It shows the stupidity of this governor.

It shows the desperation of this governor.

Stupidity if he actually believes that.

That's like saying Gandhi's not a great man.

Can you imagine anybody on the left saying Gandhi was not a great man?

Gandhi's not a great man.

Excuse me?

Well, this is true.

He was a racist.

While he saw the struggle of his own people, the racist things he said about people in Africa when he was in South Africa is astonishing.

He was a racist.

Okay.

Does that mean he wasn't a great man in this area and he had this flaw?

He was super creepy with his young female relatives as well.

Yes.

Right.

You look at the bad, the dark sides of Gandhi and he's not a great man, but you have to look at the totality of the man and the time that he lived in.

Let's look at Churchill.

If you look at Churchill from the view of Europe, he's fantastic.

But take away the European part and you look at how he treated Indians.

He was the foe against Gandhi.

And the comments he made about the Indian people is they're astounding.

If you only know that about Churchill,

he's a monster.

Lincoln, he's crazy.

He's crazy.

And he didn't do everything that he could possibly do on day one.

He cared about holding the country together.

He should have been just about stopping slavery.

Let me even go to a person on the left that they think is a goddess.

Margaret Sanger.

Are you telling me that you, because I don't think she's a good person, because there comes a point to where you're like, yeah.

She was trying to kill an entire race.

She was kind of in with the whole liquidation of people.

I'm going to say, I don't care how many other nice things you did.

Oh, but she brought, oh, she brought, you know, dinner over to her sick neighbor a couple of times.

I don't really care.

She wanted to wipe out an entire race.

But if you don't think that that's true, well, you have issues of truth.

But also,

would you say that

she's a great person?

She's a great person because I don't agree with everything she did.

Now, I can guarantee you at this women's speech that Cuomo would say, if you stood, say, excuse me, do you think that Margaret Sanger was a great woman?

I can guarantee you his answer would have been, look,

she did some great things.

That doesn't mean I agree with everything she did.

But she did some great things.

But no one will give this country that same standard.

Yes,

yes, Andrew Jackson, the guy who founded the Democratic Party, slaughtered Indians.

That happened.

He went back on all of our Indian treaties.

We treated them horribly.

Same with African Americans and quite honestly, same with white Americans

at the beginning of slavery.

Because they were deemed slaves too.

It wasn't until later that we're like, oh, you know what?

Maybe just black people.

Can't tell me that we didn't do horrible things to the Chinese, to the Japanese.

You know what the truth is on the Japanese?

Most people don't even know the truth of the Japanese internment.

Do you know that FDR wanted to inter the Japanese in 1939?

1939.

Didn't happen until after Pearl Harbor.

But in 1939, he's like, I don't know, these Japanese people kind of spook me.

So he had somebody go out and look in and do a full investigation on the Japanese problem.

Came back with a report saying, no, it's actually not a problem.

They're very patriotic.

So he couldn't do it.

He wanted to, but he didn't have any support on it

until Pearl Harbor.

And then he just rounded them up.

Well, wait a minute.

That's FTR.

I think, don't you say he's one of the greatest presidents of all time?

He was a racist.

He interred American citizens.

The country didn't do that.

That was executive order like 9066.

That was an executive order.

That was one man making the choice.

So that was your man that you say was so great, yet you cut him slack.

We apply this absurd standard that people and countries have to live up to.

They have to live up to whatever it is we say people should be.

Even when I say, and I want to make clear, I'm saying we say

not the example that we are living.

but what we say.

For instance, our founders, they were so racist.

You know what they did?

They chose to be progressive.

They said, we'll never get to a place where we can abolish slavery

if we don't have a country.

And so what we need to do is first

make an agreement that we're going to make a country and just stop the slave trade.

And then if we stop the slave trade and expansion, we can come back and take the next step.

You don't think the people were that were pro-slavery were arguing, this is a slippery slope.

First, they want to stop the slave trade.

Next thing they're going to be coming for our slaves.

Exactly right.

Exactly right.

But we are expected to believe that progressives can't respect their progressive moves to abolish slavery.

That somehow or another, that's just not good enough.

Oh, be careful because you're going to be judged by the same standard in history.

Yet these same people say

they didn't even see it.

They didn't even look.

They didn't want to do anything about it.

They wouldn't even take a stand against it.

When they did,

when our founders,

many of them, were the premier abolitionists.

But you dismiss that.

You're too busy blaming them for what they failed to see.

250 years ago to even notice that you are the biggest hypocrite to possibly ever live because slavery is worse now.

There are more people in slavery today

than the entire 400 years of Western slave trade combined.

Are you an abolitionist?

Somebody starts talking about the founders.

You just say, hey, are you an abolitionist today?

What do you know about slave trade today?

Well, I'm not talking about that.

Well, you should be because these are actual people that are living today.

We can have this theoretical conversation or we can actually free people today.

Are you an abolitionist?

The answer will always be no.

Look,

America and you as a person, this is not track.

This is cross-country.

You want to judge?

The only thing you can actually do is judge us as a nation day to day, year over year,

and judge people the same way.

Judge yourself.

The only fair way to do it is not to compare yourself to other people on Facebook.

That'll make you depressed really fast.

To compare yourself to other people won't happen.

That's what the Democrats would like you to do.

I'm telling you now to be a healthy person, you need to compare yourself to who you were yesterday, how you behaved yesterday, and the week before and the year before that.

Are you growing as a person?

Are you getting better?

Or are you making the same damn mistakes over and over again?

Are you just stuck in this place where I haven't changed my opinion ever?

Well, that means you're not growing.

This is cross-country.

There are no winners here.

The winner is you beating your own time.

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One job that is not easy is PR.

Governor Cuomo says America is not great.

It was never that great.

What do you do when you have a disastrous comment like that?

You talk to Danny Lever, the press secretary for Cuomo, to come up with a good statement that will make it all better.

Her statement?

Governor Cuomo disagrees with the president.

The governor believes America is great.

Wait.

So

it was never that great turns into the governor believes America is great.

That's PR.

It's a hard job.

Well,

the president's a liar, you know.

You're right.

Blame it on the president.

Mercury.

The opening of every hour,

I try to

share a news story and what it means that will actually affect you in some way or another.

Something that's important.

And

I'm going to break that rule here.

for a second because I just got news a few minutes ago

about a death of a man that I would call a friend, Charlie Butcher.

Charlie Butcher was the morning guy at our affiliate WoWo in Fort Wayne, Indiana, which holds a very special place in my heart.

It reminds me of how radio used to be when radio was great

and it was local and the and the people were decent and and they were there forever and you got to know them.

Charlie Butcher did the morning show at WoWo.

He was 30 years in the same town and in a small town

that says something.

He spent most of his life at number one

and

Anybody who can be on the air for three years,

the audience gets to know you and they can smell a fraud a mile away.

And

Charlie was number one

for damn near 30 years.

The entire town knew him.

He died apparently a couple of days ago.

And I just got the news.

He

his heart stopped, and it was the end.

He was 61.

I wanted

to use Charlie

as an example

of who I'd like to be.

I don't know if I've spent

maybe I've met Charlie probably minimum three times, maybe ten, if I was being generous.

I only saw him at work when we were in town.

And I have met people over my 45 years of broadcast.

I have met people like that.

And if somebody would come into my studio and say, Glenn, you know, Joe so-and-so just passed away, most times I would say, who's that?

Oh, he's so-and-so, he works at, and then I would remember.

Charlie made such an impression on me

that when somebody came in,

even though

I would be honored if he would have called me a friend, I don't consider myself, you know, a friend.

I knew who he was because

each time I met him, he was so different and so genuine.

He was just a decent guy.

And in an industry where there are so few decent people,

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Quite frankly,

as does almost everybody that works at WoWo.

There's something in the water in Indiana.

And I just want the family at WoWo to know,

and the people who have gotten up and listened to that voice for 30 years.

Those of us at Mercury and the Glenbeck program mourn with you today.

It's Thursday, August 16th.

You're listening to the Glenbeck program.

All right, let's get to work.

We have been telling you about Antifa for a while.

I've done chalkboards on it.

If you haven't seen the chalkboard, go to my YouTube page and look for the Antifa chalkboard.

You want to know who they are.

You want to know what the history is?

They are radicals.

They are communists.

They are anarchists.

They believe in the overthrow of the United States government.

Create enough anarchy to be able to pull this government down.

So a new communist government can start.

These are the people from, remember the World Trade Organizations where they used to have to fence these people in uh because they were just they would they would burn your city to the ground when the world trade organization would come that's who antifaw is those are the same people

extraordinarily dangerous

the press has given them a pass because the enemy of my enemy is my friend if you're against conservatives and and i want you to understand They're not against conservatives for any other reason other than this.

Conservatives believe in the Constitution of the United States.

The Constitution was born out of the age of enlightenment.

The age of enlightenment is the age of reason.

Science,

everything that came out of the dark ages, where it was all about fear and somebody ruling and you could be snatched off the street at any time and you were under the thumb of whoever had power.

All of that stuff went away when the candle of reason was lit.

And people said, no, wait a minute, hang on.

Let's think this through.

And let's use science and let's use facts and reason

and let's figure this out.

That's what gave birth to this civilization.

And because the Constitution is a product of that enlightenment of what is called the modern era

and because they believe everything that has happened in the modern era has been oppressive you know unlike everything in the dark ages

that it must be torn down so the only reason why they can hate police or they can hate you or conservatives or or the media is because it was created in the modern era and it has kept it propped up Now the media is so foolish to think that, oh, we're just like you.

No, you're not.

You are probably a deep progressive, maybe a socialist.

Maybe there's parts of the country you don't like or the constitution that you don't like.

Maybe, maybe.

That's not who Antifa is.

And they will drag the people out on the streets that are sitting in CNN and covering for them.

Believe me.

They will go in and they will drag those people out in the streets and beat them to death just as fast as they do it to me.

That's who Antifa is.

They're not an anti-hate group.

They're a communist and anarchist group.

Period.

Violence is the way they make change.

Benny Johnson was out.

He's with the Daily Caller, and he went out to talk to Antifa, which they don't like to do very much.

But they did talk to him, and he asked the question, if Donald Trump was here, what would you do?

People said we should Gaddafi him.

As

if I can quote it exactly, if my memory serves me right,

as long as it's a group thing,

as long as we're all in on it,

we should Gaddafi him.

Meaning, we should pull him out, don't have a trial, just drag his body in the streets until he dies.

So Benny talked to these people.

All of them were threatening the president.

He's on with us now.

Benny Johnson, welcome to the program.

How are you?

Thank you, Glenn.

I'm doing great.

So, you yesterday, the Secret Service came to your offices to look at the tape, get the tape, and see if they were going to pursue anything.

We don't know what the Secret Service is going to do.

Hopefully, they are watching a lot of these people.

That's why they mask their face.

But I want to talk to you a little bit about: A, what don't we know know about Antifa that we should?

And B,

the long-standing history of CNN in particular excusing Antifa.

Yes, so the two are connected.

I believe the two are intertwined, and it's important to understand one so you can understand the other.

The point of not covering Antifa is because there is such a confirmation bias on the left that

if you're against the neo-Nazis or the white supremacists, then you're on the right.

You're on the right side of history.

You are correct.

Quis Cuomo said as much on his show this week.

That's not true.

And that confirmation bias leads to a major default, Glenn, in reporting.

So there's not many reporters who go and do proper journalism on Antifa to show the kind of tactics they're using, the kind of tactics you just spoke about, which are extremely violent.

I only spent 40 minutes with Antifa this weekend, and I got five death threats on the President.

Just 40 minutes.

Five death threats.

You'd think that would be a very easy journalistic

story.

You'd think that that would be very important

story to tell in order to actually tell the truth about this group.

But they journalists do not want to cover this.

They

believe that they would be doing harm to their own progressive and resistance movements that they're a part of.

And so Antifa, by and and large, gets completely ignored, brushed under the rug by mainstream journalism.

So

do they think that they're not a threat?

I mean, you know, some people will be like, oh, they're not really a threat.

I know these people.

So do they think that, or do they just not want to recognize it because it puts them in cognitive dissidence?

So let's talk about that cognitive dissidence.

Let's have a little thought experiment here.

If a Trump supporter, or better yet, let's try the Tea Party.

If a Tea Partier in 2010 were to have grabbed the camera of a reporter,

said F you to the reporter, thrown the camera on the ground, cut the camera cables, then that would be a month-long news cycle.

It might be a year-long news cycle.

Oh, yeah, it would be.

It would have been all of the proof that they needed to show that we were violent and out of control.

Precisely.

If a a Vox.com or a Think Progress reporter had asked Tea Partiers what they would do if they met President Obama and they all said they'd murder him and they'd do him like a dossier, then again, this would be

a

24-hour, seven-day-a-week, month-long news cycle about the hatred inside the Tea Party.

And no one knows the Tea Party better than you, Glenn.

However, you have NBC News reporters just this weekend having that exact same thing happen.

NBC News had one of their crews in Charlottesville, their their cameras were grabbed, they were told to F off.

Their cameras were thrown on the ground.

Their reporters were assaulted.

Their reporters were harassed.

An absolute attack on journalism, on the freedom of the press, and nothing, Glenn, nothing.

NBC News didn't even cover their own reporters' assault.

The same thing happened with ABC.

ABC had their camera cables cut, thousands of dollars worth of damages.

A woman came up and sliced the cables so that they couldn't video her.

Nothing on ABC, not a single report on their own reporters getting assaulted by Antifa.

Okay, so Benny, here's where we have to take this, because

this is just an exercise in frustration.

We know the press is bad.

We know they're slanted.

We know they're not covering Antifa.

We know all of this.

So what do we do?

What do we do besides turn off mainstream television?

Just turn them off.

Stop watching them.

Stop.

Stop.

Yes.

And I agree.

And thank goodness, even though it's under attack and we're on shaky territory with social media platforms right now and the deplatforming of conservative ideas and principles, I believe that it's been very important to watch the virality of these kind of clips.

It's amazing what happens when you just tell a true story.

So if you tell a true story and let these people speak in their own words, then you get Secret Service in my office

taking my videos of these people, and hopefully that'll affect change.

Hopefully, it won't be smiled upon to say you want to murder the president.

And this video has been seen by millions and millions of people around the country, even though the mainstream media blacked it out.

I haven't got a single request to go on MSNBC, a single request to go on CNN.

I haven't seen this covered at all for center-left publications.

However, the center-right, Fox News, yourself,

people like Rush,

have really,

the person who started the Daily Caller, Tucker Carlson,

it is proven that conservatives have been able to do an end-around on mainstream media, and millions and millions of people have now seen this.

And thank you, Glenn, for playing it and bringing attention to it on your program.

Benny, one quick question,

and then we'll let you go.

You know, you mentioned the squashing of conservative voices.

I was with Ben Shapiro last night, and it was quite an interesting conversation.

It was a private conversation, but there is growing concern,

real concern, that we've crossed a threshold of some sort and

our voices could quickly go away.

Do you sense that in conservative media, that that is starting to

come to more and more people as, wow, I think this is a reality?

Yes,

there was a report

about the reach of President Trump's Facebook.

President Trump's Facebook reach has

been cut in half and even more

since this report was filed.

People on the campaign shared some of this data with Breitbart, and this report was shocking.

He's a sitting president of the United States.

Anyone in conservative publishing has seen an enormous backlash.

and

delineation of reach for their contents.

I've worked for multiple conservative publishers, including yours, including the Blaze.

And

everyone who actually has their finger on the pulse knows that conservative content does not have the same kind of reach that it had just a year ago or two years ago.

And

you are seeing conservative publishers being targeted, not just on Facebook, on Twitter, of course.

The shadow bans just happen to occur to only Republicans, to only conservatives, people on the right.

I believe that deplatforming is a very scary thing.

And here's why, Glenn, because

if you get to a point where someone is deciding what hate speech is, which I'm sure is what Ben was very concerned about,

if Ben says that there's only two genders and that transgenderism is a mental illness,

by every measure of every leftist I know, that would be considered hate speech.

Right.

And so when does it happen to Glenn?

When does it happen to Glenn?

When does it happen to Ben?

I mean, who determines what the hate speech is?

Benny, thank you so much.

Benny Johnson, reporter for the Daily Caller.

Let us know any updates that you have on

Antifa.

We're watching them closely as well.

Thank you for your hard work and your willingness to go into that crowd.

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Poop Aroni on San Francisco streets.

Yes, doesn't a big heaping steamy bowl of poop sound good to you right now?

If you're in San Francisco, you bet.

Now,

they have

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get their

hands around all the poop in San Francisco.

And they have now

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And man, I don't know if that's the government job that you could get if you go Democratic socialist.

I could get a guaranteed $15 an hour look-for-human poop patrol job.

But that sounds, that sounds like fun.

Sounds like something I would be proud to do.

For my city, I'm on poop patrol.

It's kind of like a

poop-related Ghostbusters in a way.

Like you're kind of just going around patrolling the streets, taking care of the problem, putting him into some sort of high-tech

containment device.

There's a movie to be made there.

Probably better than the all-female Ghostbusters, too.

Well,

I think that was a sexist, bigoted remark right there.

That's what I was going to say.

Was it because one of the Ghostbusters, the women were black?

Is that why?

Were they?

I don't know.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, like I didn't know Mr.

Klansman.

Okay, welcome to the program, Pat.

How are you?

I'm good.

Does it include, like, if it's dog poop, do they just leave it?

No, I don't.

I think it's only the human poop.

And I don't know if you're like,

maybe it's a small human.

And it could be a big dog.

I don't know if you're like, oh, I don't know.

But Bill, come on over.

Is this human poop or is this dog poop?

I don't know what happened.

Yeah, I think if you have a small human and big dog that go next to each other, you need a testing kit and another set of employees, maybe a new government agency, the poop testing agency that would make balance of the

example, which one was human and give that to the poop patrol for them to get rid of.

Okay, now it's like, so here's something else that they are doing.

They're doing pit stop toilets out in the streets.

So, you you know, if you need a toilet, there will be an extra like pit stop toilet right there in the street.

I don't know.

Port-a-potty type of situation?

Kind of, yeah.

Well, a lot of classier than that.

Do you see that?

In Paris, they're doing that.

Urinals.

Urinals.

Yeah.

Just set up in the middle of the streets.

And they look like

garbage cans.

And then on the side of the garbage can is a little opening where you walk up and

it's not a port-a-potty.

Wee wee.

No, it's not a port-a-potty at all.

You're completely experienced

everybody.

They put one right on the Seine, on the bridge of the Seine.

So you're there, and all the tourists are on those boats, and they're all in common, and you are

pointing your compass right at

the boat.

Is that because people were peeing off the bridge?

Well, it's because people are peeing all over the streets.

There's

the smell of urine is everywhere.

It's overwhelming.

Yeah.

What are we turning into?

And you notice what is.

How many have been selling that eau-de-toilet stuff for a long time?

It feels like, too, the port-a-potty experience for a person who lives in a home is the closest you come to the homeless experience.

Like when you walk, when you're at a concert or a sporting event and you walk into the port-a-potty, you feel like you've crossed the line to homelessness.

No, I don't think I've.

I think I maybe have done that twice.

If I have to use the port-a-potty, I go home.

Concert's over.

Let's go.

I'm not going into a port-a-potty.

I'm sorry.

Oh, I'm too much of a

I'm too much of a germaphobe.

Now, you might believe that about him now, but we're talking about a former alcoholic.

You're telling me you went to concerts in your alcoholic days and somehow survived the entire time without drinking.

He would have drank out of the

porta potty.

I love you, Mr.

Youronal.

You're the best urinal I've ever peed in.

You look like somebody's called a coffee cup.

But what are the cities of San Francisco where these problems are so prevalent?

San San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Paris.

So all bastions of progressives.

Let me ask you this question.

I think conservatives need to run cities

and they run them, but they're not real fancy.

They're just stripped down.

They're like your base model city.

Okay.

Solid.

This city is going to drive forever.

You know, you can drive this city till the doors fall off.

It's going to be great.

And then the progressives look at it and go, oh, this could be such a great city if we just, I don't know, we put some flower beds in and closed a couple of streets and they come in and they make the city really beautiful.

And then they keep coming in and then they start voting for like, you know what, flowerbeds for everybody.

And then all of the conservatives are like, oh, dear God, this, I can't afford the taxes.

And so they move away to another crappy city.

And then the progressives take that city because they can't run it.

You know, it's like,

you know, it's like you don't have the actors running the front of the house.

You know, the actors do what they do.

They do a nice little show and that's great.

But good God, don't put them in charge of the money or the upkeep of the theater because it'll never happen.

All right.

That's what the cities are.

So then they come in, they make the city really great.

And we're like, how come we don't have any good cities that are conservative?

Because they chased us out of those cities and then they destroy them.

And then hopefully we go back in

when there's poop all over, and we're like, okay, we'll clean up the poop.

You just get out of here.

We fix the city, and it's back to you know a good solid Buick.

And we need the liberals to come in and just make it a little nicer.

Circle of poop.

Yes.

I think what I'm trying to say is we need each other.

We need to run the

totally disagreement.

We need to run the finances of the city.

You can do all all of the cool stuff that make it a nice, fun city, but no pooping.

That's not a good part of the city.

No pooping.

We can come up with stuff that makes a city fun.

But it's not supposed to be...

There's plenty of private businesses that make cities great, right?

There's plenty of them.

The issue is whether it's supposed to come from the government or not.

And that's why the progressives love the federal government so much, because when all the conservatives with their money move out to the suburbs, the city can't charge them anymore.

So then they have to go to the federal government so they can still get the money.

Yeah, no, the thing is about the cities, they start out in small neighborhoods.

They start out and they're like, you know, all of a sudden, all these, you know, artists move into a neighborhood and they're like, we're going to beautify this part of the city.

And they do a great thing.

And then it becomes the hip neighborhood.

And then the conservatives are like, oh, dear God, they're going to start pooping on the streets anytime.

Let's get our families out of here before it collapses.

We leave.

Then they don't know how to run a city.

They don't know how to make any money.

And so they just are like, we need more free stuff.

Then they start taking it from the government.

And that's causing the collapse because there's no one with common sense left anymore.

Period.

That's if

you elect me president, I'm going to make sure that conservatives are in the accounting department.

And I'm going to make sure liberals are just, you know,

making things pretty, but not on government money.

They're in the art department.

They're in the art department.

We got a sales department.

We got a, you know, mechanical department.

We have the art department.

Do the art thing.

It's great.

You make cities nice.

We just don't want to pay for it.

Yeah.

I mean, it's debatable, though, if liberals have ever made a city nice.

Have they?

I mean,

really?

I don't know about that.

Oh, I think.

You look at every city they've run, and they've gone.

They've run it into the ground.

No, after a period of time, yes.

I think you're talking about broadband.

It's great when you say the city is good.

Like, the city is always filled with terrible areas and horrific crime and terrible poverty and then there's that one nice district with a few restaurants that everyone likes to go to and and that's cool but that's what generally the people who generally i know this because i saw it happen in seattle my mother used to take me i don't know why but when the pike place market was just nothing but you know an injection center uh she used to take me and that's on the original skid row and she would take me down there for some reason.

She didn't.

I was starting to question this.

And then she'd leave me for a few hours.

And the police would show up and bring me home.

Anyway,

I would go down.

I would go down with her.

And because she would always say, I want you to just look at this.

Look at this architecture.

Look what this could be.

And they were thinking about tearing it down.

And it was the artsy fartsy people that actually saved that.

And they went in and they put their money in and they started, you know, selling, I don't know, weed.

And it's a beautiful place where the carcasses of dead fish get thrown through the sky.

Yes.

And everyone goes to see it.

Right.

And now it's nothing but dead fish being thrown at each other and poop on the streets.

But for a while there, there was this magic moment where there was a yin and a yang and it all worked.

We're trying to divorce our yang.

You need your yang.

Okay.

You need the yang.

And, you know,

that's it.

I'm just saying.

Do you want a t-shirt with that on it yep we need our yang we need our yang we need our yang i think that's a good glenbeck of merchandise opportunity i think it is you know keep your poop

but uh we need our yang we need our yang you keep your poop we need the yang so anyway pat what's on your mind

so hard to top we need our yang

where you go for it from here uh

twitter CEO kind of caved in on the uh Alex Jones thing at least temporarily and did suspend him, like put him in a timeout.

I love his statement, though, when he when he finally caved, because you know, I know you were just talking about whether or not

conservatives are going to be able to continue to have a voice in the media because we're being banned and suspended everywhere.

And the

algorithms have been changed on Facebook to avoid conservative traffic.

And now they're just banning people.

And as much as I can't stand Alex Jones, this is a really bad thing what's happening to him.

It's just he's not the only one.

And he's not the only one.

And they're going to come for the rest of us.

And so

if you didn't say anything when they came for Alex Jones because you can't stand Alex Jones, you're going to regret it because it's eventually going to be you.

It is.

So

Jack Dorsey said, I feel any suspension, whether it be a permanent or a temporary one, makes someone think about their actions and behaviors.

So I guess he's our parent now.

I guess Facebook and Twitter are going to function as

parents.

Did you see what

Facebook did?

By the way,

they just got in bed with China.

I think it's Facebook or is it Twitter?

I think it's Facebook that just got into bed with China and they are or is it Google?

I should have this story before I tell you.

Friendster and MySpace are both in bed.

Right.

No, they've just gotten to bed

with China to edit the internet.

so they could get their entrance into that market.

They've just partnered to be editors of the internet for the government.

Which is so dangerous.

Why would you do that other than greed?

I mean, especially if it's Google Don't Be Evil comes to mind.

And the hypocrisy of these guys.

Jack Dempsey, the nerve of him to be talking about people thinking about their behaviors when Twitter is the most toxic, vile

platform platform in the history of the planet.

I mean,

I think Twitter is responsible for about 80% of the increased hate we have in this country.

All you see is hatred and nastiness on Twitter because

you can say it without people seeing you.

You can say it in the comfort and privacy of your underwear in your basement,

your parents' basement at home.

Just skip the hate.

Just skip the hate.

I don't get it.

That's why

the only account I follow is at Pat Unleashed.

Because

interested i never get hate there

or pat yeah

one thing i do want to

one thing i do want to address uh and we're going to have to do this tomorrow is the latest from facebook a uh an executive at facebook has come out and said if you don't

if you don't join with us if you don't play by our rules oh yeah

you will find yourself in hospice as a business.

Yeah, you're going to die.

You're going to die.

That sounds like a threat.

Doesn't sound like a

good business relationship, does it?

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