'Burning It All Down'? - 6/26/18

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Glad back.

Did you have it yet?

I mean, can you do you have a match?

Who has a lighter?

We need a lighter.

I'm sorry.

We were...

Look, it's...

I mean, I think we just have to come out and say it, okay?

A Little House on the Prairie needs to be burned.

It just needs to be burned.

You know, along with a lot of other books.

Turns out that Laura from Little House on the Prairie is a xenophobic, racist, and a land grabber.

Now, I'm not talking about Melissa Gilbert, the actress who played Laura on the TV show.

No, she's okay.

She's okay.

She's a progressive.

She's fine.

I'm talking about the real life Laura Ingalls Wilder.

She's the dead author of the beloved series Little House on the Prairie that inspired the TV show.

Now, last weekend, the American Library Association voted to strip Wilder's name from a children's book award that had been given the name, the Laura Ingalls Wilder Award, for over 60 years.

The association cited anti-native and anti-black sentiments in her work.

As their reason for Wilder's work includes expressions of stereotypical attitudes inconsistent with our core values of inclusiveness, integrity, and respect.

Do you have it lit yet?

Can you just light the fire, please?

I mean, how hard is it?

Just roll up some newspapers or something.

Her work contains a few lines that express the stereotypical attitudes that she's accused of.

But

should a few lines dismiss her entire body of work?

Yes, of course it should.

And out of all literature,

this is where we need to start.

Little house on the prairie.

I mean, I don't know about you, but

we need to start getting rid of some of these pages in some of these books.

They're offensive.

Yes, yes, they were written at a time when things and people were different, but really, history doesn't matter anymore.

Why, why, in our wildest dreams,

would we, I'm just

put it in the fireplace.

There's nothing better than a good book burning, right?

She is, I mean,

it's time for a cultural purge.

Let's work overtime on this.

Can we, please?

What books do you have?

What points of view should we purge next?

I tell you what.

If you have any symbols, crosses,

Bibles, of course.

Any kind of flag, unless it's a rainbow flag, statues,

we got to get them.

Can we get this hot enough to melt some of those statues?

So we could melt those, and then we can make them into some sort of art that means nothing.

That would be really great.

So

I thought we'd start today by joining in the progressive bandwagon.

Sure, it's arrogant to judge all people, you know, of the past based on the pristine standards of 2018 progressivism because they know

what's right today

and they'll never be wrong.

They never be wrong.

The people in the future are not going to look back at this time and say the progressives were wrong.

No,

they were right.

So what we need to do is burn all of the stuff that disagrees with them.

Now

would it be nice to be able to time travel and then just circle Laura Ingalls, you know, in some sort of a mob circle and shame her?

Sure, sure.

But we don't have a time machine.

Can't stop slave owner Thomas Jefferson from writing the Declaration of Independence, which,

you know, which really reminds me, I don't know why we have the Declaration of Independence here anymore, you know, or the Bill of Rights.

We should get rid of the Bill of Rights.

And if we're not going to burn them, let's just at least use our moral scissors to re-edit history based on current values.

But we have to look at them through the lens of victimhood.

Doesn't it feel good to stand by this fire?

Sure, some will say the saddest thing about progressivism is that, you know, it doesn't trust you at all.

It doesn't trust that you can encounter difficult, controversial, or offensive things and deal with them on your own.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

There is no grace in the progressive mindset.

Not even for authors who have been dead for well over half a century and who lived in a completely different life and different contexts than our own.

Yes, it's tragic.

Grace is what we need.

Those religious freaks will tell you.

But I'm telling you now: progressives have it right.

A good mob and bonfire is always the thing to do.

It's Tuesday, June 26th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Hello, America.

How are you today?

I'm so glad.

If books weren't meant to be burned, they wouldn't have been flammable.

Thank you, Stu.

Thank you.

You know,

I think we're on the right track.

You know, the coming insurrection, well, we deserve it.

We deserve it.

Because there are people that just need to be silenced and shamed and surrounded and books to be burned and voices to silence.

It's the way we have to do it.

You hear about the, you know, you know, the movie of Mr.

Rogers.

Mr.

Rogers and it's Won't You Be My Neighbor?

Yeah, documentary.

It looks really interesting.

Well does it?

I thought I thought it.

Yeah, I thought I was.

Well, he's an interesting, really?

An interesting what?

An interesting.

Cisgender male.

Is that what you're going to say?

Not exactly, but I was going to say man.

Well, I don't know.

I haven't seen it, and I can't recommend that anybody sees it until we have somebody who knows better than all of us tell us whether we should see it or not.

It could be filled with cisgender normatives.

Well, it's his life, so it's going to be basically whatever choices he made.

He.

Do we know if he made that choice or that?

His name is Mr.

Rogers.

Right, but was that forced on him by a society and the patriarchy?

Exactly, Stu.

You don't know, so why don't you just zip it?

Pam Bondi was there, as you know, the Attorney General of Florida.

She left the theater, and they blocked her exit.

They hurled insults at her.

What would Mr.

Rogers think about you?

I don't know.

He'd probably say, hi, neighbor.

That's probably what he would say.

I don't know.

Taking away health insurance from people with pre-existing conditions.

Shame on you, Pan Bondi.

You're a horrible person.

Okay.

Have you guys noticed what the theme of this movie is?

I mean, have you?

I mean, wasn't this guy all about not bullying people?

Practicing preach,

I mean, preaching peace and understanding, tolerance, accepting people for being different?

I think so.

Maybe I missed.

Maybe I.

You know what?

Those should be burned.

Can we start the fire again, please?

Because I don't know why we put that out.

Can we get any of this Mr.

Rogers rhetoric of peace and love and understanding and tolerance of people that are different?

Not all people.

Certainly, thank you.

Certainly not Pam Bondi.

Stu, can you take the script over there?

I brought it in.

I wasn't going to go see the movie, but I decided I was going to get the.

I would read it just to see on my own.

Thank you very much.

I just need to get this into the

fireplace.

Would you be my neighbor?

No!

I won't be your neighbor.

Okay?

You and your cisgendered normative

stances.

All right, let me just blow the fire out.

Thank you.

Powerful lungs there.

Well,

just saying.

Let me ask you this.

Is it okay to not burn a book?

If you throw it at a Republican?

Are you going to hurt him or is he going to catch it?

Oh, definitely hurt.

And the intent would be to hurt.

But again,

I don't like an element of their immigration policy.

So

then it's okay, right?

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, if therefore immigration policy that isn't approved by the hierarchy.

And I don't mean the hierarchy as in the patriarchy.

I mean the hierarchy of the new non-cisgender,

the new non-cisgender normative.

Okay.

So it's okay to have a normal.

Oh, of course.

Of course we have to.

It just has to be the opposite of what is.

It's like yesterday when we were talking about the people that were surrounding ICE,

it was the

anarchist

planning community

or commission.

So I thought that was the people that

plan for the anarchists.

Plan the anarchy.

Yeah.

The planarchy.

Planarchy.

Yeah, they're the planarchists.

So like that.

Really organized anarchists.

Yeah.

Could I just let me, you know, I just found something else.

Could I just

let me light the fire here again?

Thank you.

Thank you.

I feel warm.

I don't like to smell like smoke all day, but I don't know.

There's something about the smoke of books that just.

I've seen those words die.

It's so

lovely.

Yeah.

So, listen to this one.

This has got to go into the fire, okay?

Because we can't teach this.

Rudyard Kipling.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you.

If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, but make allowance for their doubting too.

If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, or being lied about, but don't deal in lies, or being hated, but don't give way to hating.

And yet don't look too good nor talk too wise.

Hang on, I've turned the page, but I'll just rip it out and throw it into the fire here.

I don't want to hear those words again.

Or if you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, or walk with kings, nor lose the common touch,

if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you, if all men count with you, but none too much,

If you can fill the unforgiving minute with 60 seconds worth of distance run,

yours is the earth and everything that's in it.

And what is more,

you'll...

you'll be a...

I can't.

He can't even say these words.

A trigger warning here.

And what is more, you'll be a man, my son.

Get rid of that.

I apologize.

You're gonna blow the fire out or you're just gonna let it burn?

Jeez, it's called safety.

You ever see Smokey the Bear?

By the way, we have no idea if it was he or she.

We don't know what sex Smokey is.

We just projected that on him.

Yep.

What choices did he make?

We don't even care.

We don't even care to discover it because

it might

turn our little world upside down

if he happened to be a transgendered

cross-dresser.

We just put a hat and a coat on him.

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There is something happening in Iran

that

I hope

we start to pay attention to as a nation, and I hope this president will act, I assume he will, in a much different fashion

than President Obama did.

The protesters are beginning to come out in Iran, and you could be seeing the collapse of the Iranian regime.

If we play our cards right, what President Trump did and how he has handled Iran since he got into office could mean the end of the regime.

Right now, people are

underway in a march at the bazaar in Tehran,

and

they are chanting free Iran.

They are

chanting

down with the dictators.

They're calling their own people dictators.

Close your stalls.

Leave Syria alone.

Think of us instead.

They are now calling for a major strike.

They are also protesting and saying, death to the dictator, death to the dictator, and death to Palestine.

Not Israel, not America, death to Palestine.

If Iran falls,

it completely changes our world.

It is

remarkable.

And if this president plays his cards right, and we support,

as President Reagan did

with the Berlin Wall,

this president may have been elected just for what's happening in the Middle East.

That may have been divine providence just for what is happening in the Middle East.

I mean, with him turning around on the Iran deal

and supporting Israel the way he did, and then choking off the funds, their currency is in a free fall.

Their currency has lost 50% of its value since January.

People are starting to be very hungry.

And, you know, with this big, you know, march for the Mahdi

going across and sweeping, you know, into Syria,

the people have had enough.

The currency is now actually valued less than it was at the time of the Islamic Revolution in 1979.

Holy cow.

When that happened, it was $42,000 to one, real to dollar.

And then it went, now it is at $70,000 to 1.

And it keeps increasing.

So that's,

I mean, for the regime, not good.

That's what George Bush was trying to do to him.

And And then Obama came in and gave him all the cash and reversed all of that.

And Donald Trump, thank God, reversed all that.

And now their currency is collapsing and they're being squeezed on all sides.

And the people are starting to rise up and they're not rising up against us.

I think the Iranians

will be very good friends if

this revolution is supported

and if we

if it ends up in their hands in the people's hands because the people that you know Iran was a very different place Iran's very well educated

Iran was

very westernized for a long time and you know they just wanted to get rid of the shah and they said burn the whole system down and there were some radicals that were willing to do it and here's what happened yeah the people were not for

the Islamic state of Iran.

It was just the few radicals that promised a revolution and a free people that

brought that to be.

The people have not wanted this.

That's not who they are.

And what would the results have been if not for Ben Affleck

going in there, pulling those people out?

I don't know.

They almost definitely would have died in Iran.

No, it's based on a true story.

What would have happened to...

I mean, we could have lost Batman versus Superman

or whatever.

Do not go down.

Don't come down that road.

People would have lost that entire experience

if the Iranian revolution continued and Ben Apple did not step in.

Can I tell you something?

You've made me reconsider whether or not that revolution was a good thing.

Losing Batman and Superman movie.

Boy.

Or slavery for an entire country.

It's borderline.

Have you seen Superman and Batman?

Oh,

can I just kind of

sidebar?

What the hell is wrong with DC Comics?

What is wrong with them?

Why would you do that?

How many times do you need to reset the story of Batman?

You had it.

You had it.

Nolan did a great job.

Leave that alone and build on that.

Oh, my gosh.

Ben, affleck.

Oh.

Okay, you know what?

There's

a few things that are disappearing

that

I sure would love your help on.

I learned this from the Smithsonian.

They said

I went and they opened up this big drawer.

And it was in their, you know, their room of politics where they had shown me, you know, the banners and the flags to get Thomas Jefferson elected and everything else.

And they pull open the drawer and they say, you're like this.

And they pull open a drawer.

And it's all the stuff collected from you

from our rallies.

And I looked at that and I said, well,

what is this?

He said, it's all the stuff that you did with the rallies.

And I said, you're collecting it?

And he said,

well, yeah.

He said, we're not sure it'll ever go on display or be worth anything.

He said, but we found that it's easier to grab things from history early and hold on to them than it is to go back and try to find them and buy them later.

It's kind of a thing that they, you know, they have an advantage on.

I think that there are some things that are going to disappear from history.

And it's already happening in North Korea.

North Korea is getting rid of all of its anti-American propaganda posters.

And that is a staple in North Korea.

So, you know, if you happen to be in North Korea, can you send some of those?

But what I'm really looking for are any of the

flyers, any of the posters, anything that are handouts

that are

calling for, you know, revolution or mob justice

or anything that marks today's political climate.

If you have a chance to grab those, please do and send them to me here at the studios at Las Calinas in Dallas, Texas,

because

we need to collect all of the things that's going on today

because

it's remarkable.

If you have anything that you're getting from your kids' schools that are showing how

these postmodernist rules are starting to come in, please send them.

By the way, Stu, you know, we talked about Starbucks closing 150 stores?

Yeah, yeah.

Nationwide.

And I wondered if it had anything to do with, you know, their recent debacle.

No.

No.

It actually, they're closing 150 stores.

The bulk of them are being closed in large cities that are offering now or demanding a $15 an hour minimum wage.

And they're moving to cities that don't have that requirement.

Isn't that amazing?

That is very surprising.

Yeah.

Because they're a very progressive company.

No, I know that.

And they are embracing the important

new guidelines on how to operate in our society.

Except they're

moving out of the, because I think they would want to support the movement.

These are people looking for a living wage here.

That's all they're looking for.

And

that's the sort of treatment they get.

That's amazing.

That's amazing.

There's some other bias I wanted to talk to you about.

I want to get your opinion on this because it's important.

Now, we've seen these stories before about bias in colleges, usually by some right-wing extremist group who says, you know what, I think affirmative action is the wrong thing.

There are people out there that believe this, Glenn.

There are people out there that believe you should not have people admitted into college based on their skin color.

Wow.

There are some people who think you should judge them by some antiquated standard of the content of their character rather than the color of their skin.

And that is, wow.

Well, I tell you, you know,

the racist that we, you know, we all know, we all know the African American is racist,

but nobody has said it.

But we all know that, of course.

You know, because they've just come out with a new poll.

I think it was a Pew poll that shows that african americans um

want

the people crossing the border sent back home send back them send back them as the president of mexico said once send back them yeah yeah isn't that weird that is very weird yeah they're or or not maybe they're not racist they just are just like all the other you know americans of other colors that are just like no this is wrong and uh it's not good for us to just have open open borders.

Well, it's good policy.

I'm glad

they're saying that.

However, we can't give them that, of course.

And luckily,

we've now reversed the policy, the controversial policy.

We're straight back to catch and release now, as of this morning.

In case you were wondering about how that was turning out, the media pressure has now turned the administration all the way back to catch and release.

So hopefully they can get something done in Congress because now it seems to be the only way that that's going to occur, any

tougher border policies, because we are back to

catch and release as of this morning.

That's a bit of new policy change in case you missed it.

He was just saying

like yesterday that

he thought we should be even tougher.

Yep.

ICE has, they don't have enough space, and surely that has nothing to do with the media pressure.

It's just a spatial.

There's just not enough space out there.

They had more than double when the Obama administration.

Obama was holding more than double the amount of people.

That's a whole other issue.

But I never got to this bias in college stories.

Okay, all right.

So there are some upset people

because apparently Harvard believes that Asians have terrible personalities.

Huh.

Asians

have terrible personalities.

According to Harvard,

they went through and they

the they went through all of their admittance of policy.

They went through several years' worth between 2000 and 2019.

What they found

is that Asian Americans outdid everybody

in

all of the actual school-based things like extracurricular activity and grades.

They outdid everybody by a large margin.

So what Harvard did was rate on the third area was personality.

They just gave them really crappy personality scores so they didn't overwhelm the college because obviously you don't want Asians with all their bad personalities all over your school.

You want to make sure that you keep them out.

Now, if you actually based it on the things that would matter to get into a school, instead of 19% of the

Harvard student body being Asian, it would be 43%

because they achieved at a higher level.

But no,

instead, they decided to go the opposite way and give them really crappy personality scores so that they wouldn't get into the school.

Asian American applicants receive a two or better of their personal score more than 20% of the time and only

in

only the top academic index decile.

This is the same group of people

that

were not even classified as people in the 1800s, right?

yeah they were had a rough time in the 1900s too if i remember yeah and they they built the railroads kind of slave labor yeah yeah anything happened in the in the 1900s yeah any progressive presidents step in well a couple of times better to protect them yeah in uh with with fdr he hated them uh and uh even though all of the evidence showed that uh they weren't a threat uh he just rounded all of them up

okay

but

that group, that group of people that were,

have struggled so much,

they're doing fine.

They're doing incredibly fine.

Yeah.

They've to sex so much better that they have to actually make them seem as if they have bad personalities to keep them out of Harvard.

So here's, here is the one time that, because I hate this, I hate Statue of Liberty is weeping today.

Statue of Liberty.

Is it?

Really?

It's a statue.

Then, you know, maybe we should, maybe we should call the Pope because Liberty should be canonized because she's crying.

Now, I don't know if she's crying blood, but she's crying.

Wow, she's weeping.

The Statue of Liberty is weeping today.

No, no, the Statue of Liberty,

metaphorically, is not weeping.

It's not.

You know what makes the Statue of Liberty weep?

When she challenges the other countries and says, give them to me give me all the people that you say can't make it give me all the people who you say are worthless give me all the people that your system of government continues to oppress

I'm gonna set them free over here and they're gonna join and they're just gonna they're gonna have a dream and they're gonna be able to pursue it they're not gonna live the same way

that they were living in your country generation after generation after generation because here we're going to take them and say you're free to dream you're free to work

what do you want to build and watch what they'll do that's the message of the statue of liberty the torch is imprisoned lightning what does that mean imprisoned lightning

All those people, all of those ideas, all of those things,

all of the power behind those people.

You've kept them in cages.

I'm going to open it up.

You watch what happens when they're set free.

Statue of Liberty is weeping?

Yeah, it is.

It's weeping today over Harvard.

Because what you've done is you've taken the American dream.

You come over here, you work hard.

No matter what, no matter what anybody has ever said about you or said about your race or your relatives in the past, no matter how poorly you were treated,

the Statue of Liberty weeps

when we have those people here

and they are coming through the golden door for their chance to try

and some guild

or some university or some union

keeps them down.

That's when we have betrayed the promise of the Statue of Liberty.

By the way, one more interesting takeaway from this, you might be

finding compelling in some way.

Asian Americans only had the solid personality score on the top 10% of academic achievement.

But whites got the solid personality score for the top 60% of achievement.

So, I mean, a lot more people got good personality scores if they were white.

However, Hispanics got in the top 70% and African Americans got in the top 80%.

So it's interesting, like, there's a level of, this is how they're manipulating their admissions, right?

They're just saying, well, that person has a bad personality and that person has a good personality.

We want them here.

I mean, this is the stuff.

You can't fix this stuff.

by quotas.

You can't fix this stuff by affirmative action.

Take people who if

you social justice denier is 100% Asian, celebrate it.

If they're the ones that are actually doing the best work and achieving the most, celebrate it.

Because your school is going to be known as churning out the leaders and the thinkers and the inventors that will change the world.

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Selena Zito is, I think, one of the best writers

in the country and probably has a better pulse on America than 90% of the people that you see on radio or television.

She's just written a piece for Town Hall.

And she said, it was a blustery afternoon in April, and I filled a van along with 10 students from Harvard University.

We had just spent the last couple of days in Chicopee, Massachusetts, where we had chatted with the police chief and his force, the mayor and his staff, small business owners, waitresses, firemen about the struggles of living in small-town America.

The undergrads were buzzing with their impressions.

Chicopee is about 90 miles west of the University in Cambridge, but when it comes to shared experiences, it might as well have been a thousand light years away.

We were only a few days into a new political project that I had developed with Harvard Institute of Politics called Main Street and Backroads Backroads of America, a journalism workshop where students were immersed in small-town America.

Even though these kids had almost all been raised in the United States, our journey sometimes felt like an anthropology course as they thought they were seeing the rest of the country for the first time.

This was their opening lesson.

I've been a national political journalist for 15 years, and wherever and whenever I travel in the country, I abide by a few simple rules.

No planes, no interstates, and no hotels.

Definitely no chain restaurants.

The reason is simple.

Planes fly over.

The

interstates swiftly pass by what's really happening in the suburbs, the towns, and exurbs of this nation.

Staying in a hotel doesn't give you the same connection I get in staying in a bed and breakfast, where the first person I meet is a business person who runs the place and knows all the neighborhood secrets.

You also have to spend time in the community and really report on it.

Parachuting in a few hours to interview the locals can lead to flawed evaluations.

When you're short on time, your instincts can get blurred and you can gravitate towards the shiny objects.

These simple rules are what intrigued students at the Harvard Institute of Politics or IOP after hearing me speak at the pizza and politics event on the school campus last fall.

She goes in to talk about what had happened.

You have to read this.

I'll tweet it out.

She said that it was eye-opening for the students.

They didn't think they would find anything in common with these and students ranging from 19 to 21,

They had come from the coasts.

They thought the people would be backward and no longer useful, undereducated or uneducated.

What they came out with was a very different feel and both sides broke the barriers.

Glenn Beck.

Quote, revolutionary movements do not spread by contamination but by resonance.

Something that is constituted here resonates with something, a shock wave emitted by something constituted over there.

An insurrection is not like a plague or a forest fire, a linear process which spreads from place to place after an initial spark.

It rather takes the shape of music, whose focal points, through dispersed, though dispersed in time and space, succeed in imposing the rhythms of their own vibrations, always taking on more density.

End quote.

That is from the book by the Invisible Committee called The Coming Insurrection.

I shared that book with you in 2007 or 2008.

It was written by radical leftists in France, and it talks about, quote, the imminent collapse of the capitalist and Western culture.

It was published in France in 2007.

It was split up in two different parts.

First part is a bunch of Marxist stuff, basically complaining why they believe capitalism is so bad.

The second part is a little more interesting.

Beginning under the section, get going,

the authors lay out a pathway for revolution.

And their main strategy is to wait for a crisis, economic, environmental, or political, and then begin attacking the government institutions, the corporations, and the police.

Now think about what's been happening.

Think about what you've heard in just the last few weeks.

Think about what's happening with the Department of Homeland Security.

Over just the last few days, the acting Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security, Claire Grady, had to send out a department-wide memo warning employees of recent developments.

This is on Saturday, she said, and I quote, the assessment is based on specific and credible threats that have been levied against certain DHS employees and a sharp increase in the overall number of general threats against DHS employees.

So Grady goes on to instruct the DHS employees not to wear any identifying markings outside of official buildings, buildings, don't talk to anybody about where they work in public or on social media, and to keep their windows and their doors locked in their homes.

She warned them, be alert and aware of any unexpected changes in their neighborhoods.

This doesn't sound good.

This doesn't sound good.

Not only for the safety of DHS, but it's a really bad thing to take a police force and isolate it from the community and

then begin to plant the seeds that it's us versus them.

That's not going to end well.

Last week, Wikileaks, they leaked the information of over 9,000 current and former ICE employees.

They said they did this to increase accountability.

But what kind of accountability are you looking for by pointing radicals to somebody's house?

It's not oversight they're looking for.

It's insurrection.

Ever since that leak, the DHS has received over 20 credible threats.

In one instance, a burned and decapitated animal corpse was

left on the porch of a DHS employee.

As the Invisible Committee describes it, this crisis is taking on more density.

Anybody on either side that are stirring up anger and rage are misguided at best

because anger and rage begets terror and violence.

It's Tuesday, June 26th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Alex Benayan is

an author.

I guess you could call him an author because he has a book out, but that's not really who he is.

He is a guy who looks at the world differently and has realized that there are three different doors in life.

There's a door that everybody lines up in front of and takes their turn and waits patiently in line.

Then there's the one for celebrities and politicians and people with power or money.

And then there's a third door.

That's the name of his book, The Third Door.

And he has, it's full of

examples in his own life of how that third door works.

Welcome.

How are you, Alex?

I'm great.

Thank you for having me.

You were Forbes 30, under 30 when you were 22?

Is that right?

Yep, exactly.

Yeah.

Wildly, wildly successful because you think completely out of the box.

Right?

Is that why you would say you were successful?

I realized when I was 18 that not only did I not know what I wanted to do with my life, I didn't know how all the people who I looked up to, how they did it.

So I went on this quest to learn from all these people who I admired.

And by coincidence, not by design, the lessons I was learning during these interviews were starting to play out in my own life.

So, this is really kind of your own university because you didn't go to college.

Your mom was not happy about that.

I'm still traumatized from the team.

You know, having, you know, Jewish immigrant parents and telling them you're leaving college is the end of the world for a kid.

I bet.

What did she say?

It was what she didn't say for weeks, you know, not talking, crying.

And did you know that you would get this education or did you just say, no, not now?

Or how did you approach this?

What was your thinking?

So I love college.

And when I entered college, I was the pre-med of pre-meds, which happens when you're the son of immigrants.

I was, you know, cradled in my mom's arms and then she stamped MD on my behind and sent me on my way.

And by the time I got to college, you know, I was in my pre-med bio classes, but very quickly, I remember the life being sucked out of me.

And at first I thought, maybe I'm just being lazy.

But then I realized maybe I'm not on my path.

Maybe I'm on a path somebody placed me on and I'm just rolling down.

So I always loved college, but I knew the answers I was getting weren't the answers I wanted.

So I just tore through a bunch of books, business books and biographies and self-help books, looking for...

a specific guide of how all these people I looked up to, how they were able to break through when nobody knew their name.

But eventually I was left empty-handed.

So, very naively, because I was 18, I thought, why not just write it myself?

You know, I thought I could just call up Bill Gates, interview him, interview everybody else.

You know, I thought he's just waiting to help out kids these days.

Right, right.

To my surprise, that's not how it played out.

But that was the original inspiration to go on this quest to get the answers.

I was looking forward to that.

Okay, so I want to talk about a couple of things before we get into your quest to meet these people.

First of all, tell me about your dad because he's all the way through this book.

My dad passed a year ago,

and

you know what?

I'll tell you about a couple minutes ago, right before we started,

I closed my eyes and I told my dad, you know, you're here with me.

And

the

hardest and biggest lessons I've learned in life

came from

seeing my dad pass away before my eyes.

And

I learned about the importance

of family.

And the biggest thing is that you don't know how much you'll miss someone someone until they're gone.

I will tell you

that if I were your father right now,

my whole life was just worth living because my son feels that way about me.

Thank you.

All right, we're going to take a quick break and then we're going to come back and talk about the third door: the

quest to

find out how people did it.

The quest just to talk to Spielberg and Gates and Warren Buffett and Lady Gaga in a minute.

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Alex Benayan, he is the author of the book, The Third Door, The Wild Quest to Uncover How the World's Most Successful People Launched Their Careers.

He is 25 years old and

going to have a very successful life

in front of him.

First, let's start with what the third door is.

So, after spending seven years interviewing the world's most successful people, I realized while on the outside they are completely different.

You know, Bill Gates grew up wealthy in Seattle, Maya Angelou in Stamps, Arkansas.

At their core, though, they all treat life and business and success the exact same way.

And the analogy that came to me because I was 21 at the time was it's sort of like getting into a nightclub.

So there's always three ways in.

There's the first door, the main entrance, where the line curves around the block, where 99% of people wait around hoping to get in.

And then there's the second door, the VIP entrance, where the billionaires and celebrities go through.

And for some reason, school and society have this way of making us feel like those are the only two ways in.

You're either born into it or you wait your turn like everybody else.

But what I learned is that there's always, always the third door.

And it's the entrance where you jump out of line, run down the alley, bang on the door 100 times, crack open the window, go through the kitchen.

There's always a way in.

And it doesn't matter if that's how Gates sold his first piece of software or how Spielberg became the youngest director in Hollywood history.

They all took the third door.

Do you think there's anybody

that does

really, truly game-changing, remarkable things that hasn't done that I don't believe so not I don't think so either I think the whole you know the very essence of your question game-changing things right you have to think that way how can you stand in a long line hoping life hands you what you want if you're trying to do something that actually changes things so were you did you

Did you learn the, I don't think you learned this from them.

It was just verified in you because the way the first thing you did was you thought it was going to be easy to get all these interviews right

there's a power of being naive right okay yeah there is there really is you just don't know any better and i love that um but you thought it would be easy to get that you thought it would be hard to get the money to publish the book Right, because I was, you know, buried in, I was buried in student loan debt, so I thought there had to be a way to make some quick money because I figured Bill Gates, of course, would say, come on in immediately.

Yeah.

So I needed the couple hundred bucks to fly to Seattle.

Right.

Okay.

So two nights before final exams, this is my freshman year of college.

I'm sitting in the library doing what everyone's doing in the library right before finals.

I'm on Facebook.

And I'm on Facebook and I see someone offering free tickets to the price is right.

And the first thought that comes into my mind is, what if I go on the show and win some money to fund this dream?

You know, not my brightest moment.

Right.

But I had a problem.

I had never seen a full episode of the show before.

Plus, I had finals in two days.

Right.

And, you know, my mom would kill me, but I decided that night to do the logical thing and pull an all-nighter to study, but I didn't study for finals.

I studied how to hack the prices right.

And I went on the show the next day and executed this ridiculous strategy and ended up winning the whole showcase showdown, winning a sailboat, selling the sailboat, and that's how I found the show.

Okay, so hang on just a second.

What was the hack and how did you learn it so during my all-nighter what I realized when I was on the you know 23rd oh of a Google search is that the price is right isn't what it seems you know they make it look random Glenn come on down right as if they pulled your name out of the hat but what I learned is that there's a producer who interviews every single person in the audience and then on top of that there's an undercover producer who's planted around in casual clothing to verify those selections.

So like everything in life, there's a system to it.

It wasn't just luck.

So how did you work that system?

So when I got there, I didn't know who the undercover producer is.

So I just had to assume everyone was.

So I'm, you know, flirting with old ladies, I'm dancing with the custodians, I'm break dancing, and I don't know how to break dance.

And eventually I get in line and it's my turn to be interviewed by the producer.

And the second I saw him, I knew, you know, I knew everything about him from my night of research.

I knew where he grew up.

I knew where he went to school, and I knew he had a clipboard, but it's never in his hand.

It's in his producer's hand who sits right behind him.

So it's finally my turn to be interviewed.

So he goes, What's your name?

Where are you from?

What do you do?

And I go, Hey, I'm Alex.

I'm 18.

I'm a freshman in college.

I'm studying pre-med.

And he goes, Pre-med, you must spend a lot of time studying.

How do you have time to watch?

The prices right?

And I go, Oh, is that where I am?

You know, no laughter.

The joke falls flat.

So I had read in one of these business books that I was reading that human contact speeds up a relationship.

So I had an idea.

I needed to touch Stan.

So

I call the producer over Stan.

I'm like, Stan, come over here.

I want to make a handshake with you.

And, you know, we pound it and blow it up.

And he laughs and he goes, all right, good luck.

And walks away.

Doesn't turn around to his assistant.

She doesn't write anything on the clipboard.

Just like that, it's over.

And I don't know if you've had one of these moments where your whole dream is right in front of you and you can see it slipping through your fingers like sand.

And the worst part is, you know, you didn't even have a chance to really prove yourself.

So I don't know what got into me, but I felt this rumbling in the pit of my stomach and I started yelling at the top of my lungs, Stan!

And, you know, the whole audience shoots their head around.

They think I'm like having a seizure.

And he runs over.

He's like, are you okay?

Are you okay?

And I have no idea what I'm going to say.

And I'm looking at him and he's looking at me.

And, you know, he's typical Hollywood, you know, goatee, red scarf.

And I just look at him and I'm like,

your scarf.

And now I really don't know what I'm going to say.

And all I can do is with all the seriousness I can, I just look at him and I say, Stan, I'm an avid scarf collector.

I have 362 pairs in my dorm room and I'm missing that one.

Where did you get it?

And he starts cracking up because I think he finally figured out what I was doing and he was laughing more at why I was doing it.

So he gives me the scarf.

He's like, look, you need this more than I do.

He turns around, winks, and his assistant makes a mark on the clipboard.

Wow.

Wow.

Okay.

So now, this is this, that you just took the third door.

You didn't learn this on the road.

I mean, I want to hear the stories of everybody else, but you didn't learn this on the road.

You knew this instinctively.

Didn't you?

I didn't know consciously that I did.

Right.

What I learned much later in my journey, and it's funny how life works this way.

You know, the answer is sometimes if you're not ready for it, it waits until you're ready.

Halfway through the journey of writing the book, my grandpa finally opened up about his life to me.

And what I learned is that he was in Iran,

you know, born into a family where food could barely be put on the table.

And his story

of making ends meet when he was five years old, his father passed away.

And in Iran, women couldn't couldn't work so it was really up to my grandpa five six seven eight years old to make ends meet in his story of overcoming

you know coming to America rebuilding everything really following that American dream I didn't know it consciously but when I finally heard the story I realized this has not only been in my blood, this has been what I was raised around.

I just didn't know it.

All right.

So who's the first person you want to meet?

Oh, when I was 18, the first person I tried to meet was Steven Spielberg.

And I knew he was at a,

you know, a fundraising party in Los Angeles.

And I ended up going to the party, sneaking in as part of the catering staff.

And at the party,

I had done all my research on him.

I'd read all his biographies, watched all his movies.

And when I was at the party, I finally built up the courage to go up and talk to him because he was, you know, talking to some, you know, bald man I didn't know, who I later found out was Jeffrey Katzenberg.

Some bald man.

So I started up and I'm like, oh, this is a perfect opportunity.

He's talking to some random guy.

Yeah.

So I run up to him and I'm like, you know, Mr.

Spievel or Mr.

Spielberg, can I ask you a question as you walk to your car?

And he swings around and throws his arms in the air and I flinch

and he gives me a big hug.

We'll pick the story up there when we come back.

The name of the book is The Third Door.

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This is the Glenn Beck program.

At the top of Next Hour, we have an update on a couple of Supreme Court cases that have come in favorable to the conservative point of view.

One was the travel ban, and the other was this ridiculous law in California where if you were an adoption agency or you were a Christian agency, you had to post posters about abortion and Planned Parenthood.

It was crazy.

But anyway, we'll give you all of the information on that coming up in just a second.

Alex Benayan is here.

He has a book called The Third Door, and it is about his meetings with these really famous people.

And he got in to see like everybody, everybody.

And

let's finish up on Steven Spielberg.

So he gives you a hug at this party.

He gives me a hug, and because I'm 18, I don't have a pitch.

I just end up pouring my heart out to him.

And when I asked him for an interview, you know, his eyes clenched because, you know, that's the last thing he sort of wanted to hear.

But he did something that was the most powerful thing he could have given me.

He sort of stopped and he looked at me and he said,

I don't know why,

but I really think you're going to make this happen.

Go do it.

Come back to me later.

And he walked away, you know, he said goodbye and walked away.

And then he turned around right before getting in his car and walked back and said, I really meant that.

I believe you can do this.

And when you're 18 years old, there's no power, no more powerful gift.

Yeah.

At all.

Did you go back to him?

Yeah.

Did he meet you?

What ended up happening, and it's a pretty wild story, I ended up going out to the south of France.

where he was the judge of the Cannes Film Festival so I could get back in touch with him.

And I'll spare you the whole story, but I ended up taking a little dinghy out to the middle of the French Riviera to Spielberg's yacht to deliver a letter.

Almost died.

The story was so preposterous, it actually didn't even make it into the book because my publisher is like, this is too

much.

This is nonfiction.

That is crazy.

So did he answer the letter?

Spielberg sadly was not.

Oh, that's too bad.

And one of the things that I've learned about the book is that while, you know most things don't work out yeah if you don't ask you don't get yeah um when you met um bill gates you wanted him after your interview with him you wanted to get him to line you up with warren buffett and what happened is his office loved gates' office loved the interview so much they actually reached out to buffet's office to vouch for me to try to get me the interview But what had happened is I had spent eight months pounding on Warren Buffett's door, calling his office week after week, sending him handwritten letters every single month.

I was so persistent that when Gates' office finally reached out, Buffett's office said, oh, we know all about Alex, and it's not happening.

And I learned a very strong lesson for a young person, which is there's a such thing as over-persistence.

Did you meet with him?

With Buffett, what ended up happening is because I couldn't get the official sit-down interview, me and my five childhood best friends went to Omaha for Buffett's annual shareholders meeting where there's 30,000 people there.

Oh my gosh.

And there's a Q ⁇ A portion.

But you have to be selected for the Q ⁇ A.

It's a random lottery.

But you've done the prices right.

Exactly.

So me and my best friends go to Buffett's meeting.

And although there's only 30 people who ask questions out of 30,000, one in a thousand odds, we find a loophole in Buffett's lottery and out of you know one in a thousand odds, four of us get winning lottery tickets.

And that's how we asked my questions to Warren Buffett in front of 30,000 people.

What was the trick?

So Buffett didn't think out his system clearly enough.

What ended up happening is it's a big basketball arena.

And there's 12 different lottery stations all around the arena.

And they're equally spaced out, assuming

that everyone in this arena wants to equally ask questions.

But if you think about it, the people in the front rows are the biggest Buffett fans who are dying to ask a question.

The people all the way up in the shadowy top part

don't want anyone to know they're even there.

So no one's entering that lottery.

So you put your name in there and they pull an equal amount from each Buffett.

Exactly.

Wow.

So the odds are completely tilted.

So this is is

so, so,

well, first of all,

you met

Maya Angelou, Bill Gates, Spielberg,

Lady Gaga,

and then Jessica Alba.

And I'm thinking to myself,

one of these things isn't quite like the other.

She's built a hell of a business, though.

She does have a business.

What did you learn from Jessica Alba?

I didn't expect to learn it.

And we actually touched up on it in the beginning where I went into the interview with Jessica Alba the week after my dad's cancer diagnosis.

And I went into that interview thinking, you know,

I need to be professional.

I need to stop thinking about death.

And as soon as I sat down and Jessica Alba, for some reason, I'll never know why.

She immediately started talking about how you never know when your parents are going to go.

Oh, my God.

And how that is her biggest fear that helped spur her to start this business.

So, did you just start bawling?

I tried to hold it in and I tried to change the subject.

So, I changed the subject and asked her how she started her company.

And she goes, Well, when I had kids, I realized they can die just as easily.

And I'm like, please stop talking about death.

And when I finally blurted it out,

she,

for the first time, made me feel not alone.

And not only did she make me feel that, she taught me lessons about how sometimes looking and using your biggest fear could be your biggest advantage.

You have, at 25, you have

more

real knowledge than I may even have now.

What are you going to do with it?

What I've learned is that when I set out to write this book, my original intention was to gather all of these tools and tactics and principles from all these people who I looked up to and put it all in a guidebook.

And while that element still exists, you know, the saying, one person's hindsight can be your foresight, while that still exists in the book, what I've realized is that the soul of the book goes much deeper.

And the soul of this book is really about possibility.

And what I've learned is that you can give someone all the best knowledge and tools in the world, and their life can still feel stuck.

But if you change what someone believes is possible, they'll never be the same.

And that's the mission moving forward.

You know,

I've told this story

a few times, but I just want to

verify what you're saying.

I'm 30.

I'm an alcoholic.

I just start to sober up and start to really look at my whole life and everything.

And

somebody said, I said, you know, I'd just like to go back to, I'd like to go to college because I didn't go to college.

I'd like to go to college.

And somebody said, well, you live in New Haven.

Why don't you go to Yale?

And I said, they're not going to accept me.

I was a loser.

I had horrible grades.

Well, I sent for my transcripts.

I was an A student.

I was a really good student, but I had talked myself into

not being a good student, not being smart.

And I had allowed others to build on that.

And

I sat with a professor and because he said,

one of the underclassmen said,

could you just, could you just do

You know, it's finals week, and would you just do what you do with the professor all the time

so we don't have to, you know, really listen.

And I said, wow, okay.

Well, what is it that I do?

And they said, you know, you get him talking.

And it was because I was asking questions.

I really wanted to know.

They just wanted to get through the class.

I really wanted to know.

And so we had kind of this exchange over a two-week period.

And he finally said, I want to see you after class.

And we sat down and he said, what are you reading?

Why are are you here?

And I said, I've realized I don't really know anything myself.

He said, what are you reading?

I said,

I'm trying to get through Einstein.

I'm trying to get through Immanuel Kant.

I'm reading the founders.

I'm reading Augustine.

I'm trying to figure out Plato, all of this stuff.

And he said, who's guiding you through that?

And I said, me.

And he said, and I said, I feel so stupid.

I just can't, can't, it's so hard.

And he said,

he reached across the table.

He put his hand on mine and he said,

you know, you belong here, don't you?

That changed my life.

Steven Spielberg saying to you,

I really mean this is going to happen.

You're going to do this.

It changes your life.

Somebody.

who you respect, and it doesn't have to be anybody big or famous or anything else.

Dad.

Especially dad sometimes.

Dad.

Saying, I believe in you changes everything.

The name of the book is The Third Door.

Alex, it has been a real honor to meet you.

Thank you very much.

The honor has been mine.

Yeah, and I hope to see

great things coming from you from here on out.

I appreciate that a ton.

Thank you.

You bet.

Thank you.

Name of the book again, The Third Door.

Couldn't recommend highly enough.

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So let's look a little bit at a couple of the decisions that the court has just handed down.

Yeah, two pretty big ones.

And actually a third sort of piece of collateral damage that's, I think, particularly interesting

to this audience.

First of all, the law on California

was basically required places, you know, like a Christian counseling center on abortion

or an adoption center to give advice to people who come into it, posting notices on the wall to say, hey, don't forget, you can also get an abortion.

I mean, typical California, right?

And that has been overturned on a 5-4 decision.

It has possibly wider

consequences, yes.

A little in that they're basically saying you can't really force someone to say something just because you call it professional speech.

So the way the law kind of works is to say, well, we're not saying you say this as an individual.

We're saying this as your role as a doctor, you have to say this.

As your role as a lawyer,

you have to make these notices.

No, I mean, there's an individual first.

Right.

They're saying you're an individual first.

You can't compel the person to say things just because they happen to be a professional and holding a job, which is interesting.

I could see a wider significance.

The other one is the travel ban.

Travel ban was upheld by the court.

And so that can go forward.

This is reflecting one of Trump's probably best decisions in that he got rid of Steve Bannon, who designed the first couple versions of it and failed miserably with them.

This one is the you know the third or fourth take at it, and this one actually passes scrutiny and is now okay to go forward.

There's interesting parts of this in that

one of the big arguments, there's several arguments the other side made, which was one, hey, we know this is about banning Muslims because the president said it over and over again in the campaign and as presidency.

Basically, the court looked at those arguments and said,

yeah, whatever he said, he could say whatever he wants.

However, that wasn't actually in the text.

So they basically dismissed all the stuff that he said.

They did not say that everything he said was okay.

They said the stuff he said had nothing to do with this because it's not in the text of it.

Wow.

You know, wouldn't that be nice if the media started doing that?

They're actually looking at the argument.

Yeah, looking at what's actually going on and going, I don't really care what he says.

Yeah.

He says a lot of stuff, and some of it you should listen to, some of it you shouldn't.

We should get into maybe

the way that that was written about because it's pretty important.

And it also,

you know, seems to overturn in the ruling another case, a famous one,

that has something to do with one of the biggest progressive presidents in history.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my, oh, my.

I think I, again,

oh, my, don't know, really?

FDR Woodrow Wilson, don't tell me, don't tell me I want to wait until open this.

I mean, it's like Christmas now.

Give me a hint.

No, don't give me a hint.

Don't give me a hint.

Let me dream of what it might be.

And we'll come back with the Supreme Court in just a minute.

Glenn Beck.

Well, there's a story today coming out.

A couple of things.

First of all, California is considering creating a fake news advisory group.

This is a government group that the Californians are going to put together.

And they're going to figure out what's fake news and what's not fake news.

Well, that'll be helpful.

Now, also in the news today, President Trump, still everybody is protesting his now repealed Immigration Party policy.

He's now saying it is back to catch and release.

Every day, we get a fresh example of outrage that is dubious or unsavory or sometimes now even violent.

There was a graphic cartoon by Occupy Wall Street just the last few days.

The abuse of Florida's Attorney General, Pam Bondi.

She left a movie theater.

She'd been watching, would you be my neighbor?

And they're spitting on her and screaming at her.

Similar abuse of Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirsten Nielsen.

The mistreatment of Sarah Sanders over the weekend.

And boy, I just have to say, side note, Your Honor, I mean, a group that calls itself feminists, progressives do mistreat an awful lot of women, at least they have in the last week.

The bungled Time magazine cover story, which saw the magazine use a photo of an immigrant girl being kidnapped from her parents, which was false.

The girl had never been taken from her mother, but that didn't matter, though.

Time magazine concluded, it's the message that counts.

Oddly enough, a similar incident happened just again today.

Alex Wren, Maxim's Mexico cover girl in 2017.

She's sports illustrated swimsuit rookie for 2018.

She posted an image of a sobbing child reaching through the chain link fence, and she writes, I'm effing disgusted right now.

Yes, but are you wearing a bikini?

Or would that be sexist of me to notice that she's wearing a bikini if she's on the cover of Sports Illustrated?

I don't even know the rules anymore.

The assumption is that she had posted evidence of a child being taken from their parents at the U.S.

border.

But it wasn't until after the tweet went viral that people realized, ah, no,

that photo has nothing to do with the current border situation.

Not even close.

The photo was actually taken last year for a Metro UK article titled Thousands of Children Separated from Parents during battle to free Mosul from ISIS.

Now,

again,

I don't know, you're wearing a swimsuit?

I mean, she's a sports illustrated swimsuit model.

Who gives a flying crap what she has to say?

Well, strange as it is, her tweets can have a real-world effect that is both divisive and precarious.

Before Wren deleted the tweet, it had garnered 16,300 retweets and 50,300 likes.

With roughly 12.2 million followers on Instagram and 1.5 million followers on Twitter, she had the ability to spread a false message, to influence public opinion.

I wonder if this is the kind of fake news that the new California board will be looking for.

It's Tuesday, June 26th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

All right, Supreme Court rules 5-4 to uphold the travel ban.

Now, there's a couple of things in these.

We're just going to go through them here.

There are three decisions that have come out, right?

Just two.

Two big ones ones here.

So

let's go through what the Supreme Court has just decided.

So there's a law in California basically that required

some like an adoption center or a Christian counseling center to post notices.

Hey, did you guys know that you could also get an abortion instead of going through adoption?

They wanted to alert people that they could instead abort their children rather than get them for adoption.

This is a person who's already walked into an adoption center.

We're trying to talk them out of adoption and get them over to the abortion center.

Now, you can make that point if you'd like.

No, you're certainly governed by the First Amendment to make that argument.

But you also can't make the argument that I want them rare, safe, and legal.

No, they've given up rare.

It's just safe and legal.

And honestly, like, I don't know that they care about safe, really.

I think they care about legal.

But the...

They are selling the body parts.

That's true.

It's a good point.

They don't care about any of it.

They're all lying.

Let's put it that way.

So they can make that argument.

You You could say, hey, we think abortion is a wonderful argument.

We can't force a Catholic charity, for example, to say, they have to say that abortion's a great option for you.

And that's, you know, you're compelling speech.

Now,

Clarence Thomas wrote the decision.

As we know on this program, one of the basic tenets of this program is that Clarence Thomas continues to be awesome.

Well, you have to interview.

I want to interview him.

I don't think he should do that interview.

I advise against it.

Yeah, no, I mean, it wouldn't be an intelligent interview, and he he wouldn't take it, but I want to interview.

No, he would be I mean, fantastic.

He's so I mean so smart.

And yeah, we he's the most

potentially the most important man in America right now.

Yeah.

He writes, and this is a great summary of what he wrote.

The Ninth Circuit did not apply strict scrutiny because this it concluded that the notice re regulates professional speech.

But this court has never recognized professional speech as a separate category of speech, subject to different rules.

Speech is not unprotected merely because it is uttered by professionals.

He's just awesome.

So that one is a great, you know, it's great.

5-4 down the line there, as you might expect with a decision like that.

And it does wind up being the correct one, I think,

clearly.

You know, I mean, I think it's absolutely clearly the right decision and one I'm very excited about.

On the other side of this travel ban, it's going to get a lot more press than the abortion ruling.

And it's also important.

The decision

goes through and says the travel ban can go forward.

There's a lot of nuance to it and some interesting things inside of it.

First of all,

one of the main arguments made by people, by Hawaii, trying to say, hey, the travel ban should not exist, one of their main arguments was

we know this wouldn't be constitutional if it was done based on religion.

And we think that it was based on religion.

And here's here's our evidence.

Donald Trump called it a Muslim ban about 5,000 times.

Here's all the people in his administration who called it a Muslim ban.

Here's all the times he said it was to ban Muslims.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

What the court said is they actually looked at those arguments and they said, okay,

you're right.

Donald Trump did say those things.

However,

it's not technically in the writing.

It's not technically in what they call the proclamation, which is what this is to what the travel ban is.

So they're basically saying, yeah, it's his opinions aside,

we're not ruling on whether those are good opinions or whether they're right or wrong.

What we're saying is they're not in here, technically.

And a lot of that's because it's the third or fourth version of it.

So think of the far-reaching

ramifications of that because what he's saying here is

that just

because it's called the Patriot Act doesn't mean it's patriotic.

Right.

And that's at least the name of the act.

I mean, you know.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, it's true.

I think I would have loved this standard to be applied to the Obamacare ruling, which it was not.

Now, of course, Clarence Thomas didn't write that.

He dissented in that opinion.

But I mean, the same standard as applied to Obamacare says you can't change a fee to a tax or a tax to a fee after it's been written.

You can't change

the way subsidies are given out afterwards because you think it's what they probably meant.

That was the whole, both of the main Obamacare rulings were decided on the basis that we think they meant this, so therefore it is that.

It's really weird because

you even asked them in those particular case, you even asked them and they told you.

Yeah, well, yeah, I kind of

screwed that one.

Yeah, two separate cases, and both times Roberts was there saying, you know, we think they meant this.

Now, Roberts gets on board with this ruling.

He's on the correct side of, or the, I guess, the conservative side, depending on your viewpoint, of this particular ruling.

He's with Thomas.

So in the 5-4 decision, he here embraces the idea that you shouldn't just insert things that you think they meant into a rule, a law, a proclamation.

That was, to me, completely different than what he said last time.

But in this particular case, it may

help

if you'd like the travel ban.

All right.

So you promised, you promised

some candy.

I did.

You promised me that this has far-reaching possible, far-reaching ramifications.

It overturns something of real historical significance.

At least I think it does.

And you tell me.

You're a nobody, but I can hope.

You can hope.

All right.

You tell me.

All right.

The idea, one of the other arguments made by Hawaii in an attempt to overturn the travel ban was to say this is basically the Japanese internment camps.

You're taking people based on some group and you're punishing all of them at the same time.

What the court said was, wait a minute, this is not the same as Japanese internment camps.

You can't compare the two.

One's about foreign nationals asking for a privilege of admission.

The other is about citizens losing rights

and they're actual citizens in what they call a morally repugnant way.

However, they go on

to talk about

the, let me read this part for you.

Forcible relocation of U.S.

citizens to concentration camps solely and explicitly on the basis of race is objectively unlawful and outside the scope of presidential authority.

Now, what's interesting about that is

this is the reason why they were able to do the Japanese internment camps is a Supreme Court decision in 1944,

which allowed for that whole

disaster to take place.

So, the argument here is this ruling, as they call that

the Japanese internment camps objectively unlawful and outside the scope of presidential authority, overturns the ruling that allowed internment camps in the United States.

And that,

while you might say, well, come on,

that could never happen again.

No, I know.

It's only happened with two different presidents.

I certainly don't have to make that case to Glenn Beck.

But I mean, to a lot of people would say, well, that's not a big deal.

It's never going to happen again.

Well, it has happened before multiple times.

It's happened all over the world.

It's happening now in the world, right now.

George Takai says it's happening on our border right now.

As we just found out, we just heard from George Takai.

This is already worse.

It's worse than that.

So that's a pretty big deal.

And that here is something that, again, from one of the biggest progressive presidents of all time, FDR.

One of the people who is consistently listed in the top five presidents by progressive historians for interning an entire race of people, people, multiple races of people, by the way, multiple nationalities.

What we see here is I think, and, you know, this is certainly not just my speculation, but other legal experts' speculation, that this essentially, in effect, overturns that ruling.

They are saying that that was unlawful.

They are saying that that was outside the scope of presidential authority.

That's really good.

I think it's really good because they did not need to go that far.

For example, in the abortion ruling, they go pretty far.

They say, hey, you can't force people who are professionals to say things just because it's their job, which is a big deal because that could reach past just this one thing.

The masterpiece cake shop ruling that we talked about a few weeks ago was the opposite.

It was very narrow and didn't apply to a large swath of these

arrangements.

So this, I think, is a much more further-reaching situation.

I will say this, and you're going to hear a lot about this.

If you want to tune into MSNBC tonight and tune into a little CNN later on today, what you're going to hear a lot about is not the Thomas ruling on on this.

You're going to hear a lot about the concurring opinion from Justice Kennedy.

Now, so Kennedy joins the majority in this case, in the 5-4 case, and says, yes, the travel ban

should be upheld.

His argument, essentially, in his concurring opinion, which he is alone in, he basically says, yes, technically the travel ban should be upheld.

However, it's pretty mean.

And he goes through, it's a two-page ruling.

It's pretty limited.

Pretty mean.

I'm summarizing here.

But yeah, he doesn't say

it's pretty mean.

Okay, he said

we should re-evaluate Kennedy's health if he said.

Right.

And you know what?

I think it's pretty mean.

And we're not a bunch of meanies.

No, he didn't word it that way, but it's essentially what he said.

He said, A,

it's pretty mean.

B,

and other stuff.

And other stuff.

No, B, the president shouldn't make...

This thing, as presented, is technically okay for the president to do.

There's a very low standard for the president to apply these types of immigration restrictions based on national security.

So technically, yes, he can do it.

However, he wanted to make sure that everybody knew that a president and his job is to uphold the Constitution.

And if what he's doing is essentially rewording a thing over and over and over again to get it to pass scrutiny when what he really wants to do is ban Muslims,

that is wrong.

And why?

I think that is actually, I'm okay with that.

Well, first of all, I completely agree with that point from

that.

However, the larger scope of what people are going to read into this is this is a slap on the wrist of the president saying, hey,

what you did passes here, but what you're doing, I don't agree with.

Or what you said you were going to do.

Right.

What you said multiple times, what you were doing.

I'm going to ban Muslims.

You can't ban Muslims.

And if you're just trying to play with the rules to try to get it past us, that's the wrong thing to do.

I can't stop you because I have a limitation as the court of what I'm supposed to do.

However, what I think of that is really wrong.

Now, of course, you might say, well, who cares what he thinks?

He's, you know, it doesn't matter if he's applying the law and is doing the job of the Supreme Court.

It's not his opinion to say what's mean and what isn't mean.

A, you're going to get a lot of media attention on it.

So I'm just alerting you that that's going to be coming.

And when they have the quote from Kennedy saying, it's mean.

Yeah.

And that's going to play.

I mean, I could read it to you.

It's two pages.

But basically, what it says is it's mean.

Yeah, okay, I got it.

In addition to that, though,

it's going to lead to a lot of speculation that Kennedy is not going to be stepping down anytime soon.

Because if what he says is, yeah, I have to approve that, but what you're doing is wrong, there's the speculation that he's going to say, well, you know, I can't, I'm not going to step down at this point and give this guy another Supreme Court pick if what he's going to do is these sorts of shenanigans.

Now,

he's not critical of Gorsuch at all, and I don't think he has any problem with Gorsuch.

So I don't think that he's complaining about his his previous picks.

I think he's saying, hey, watch how far you're going here.

Because I think if he's completely comfortable with Trump, the idea is he's more

open to stepping down.

And he's been the one that everyone talks about stepping down soon.

Now, everyone on the court's like 175 years old, so any one of them could step down at any time.

But Kennedy's the one that's often tossed around, and Kennedy

is the moderate.

I mean,

you look at

Ginsburg.

She is like walking death.

I mean, how old is she now?

Ruth?

RBG?

Ruth?

Ruth?

Like we know her.

RBG.

Ruthie.

How old is Ruthie now?

She doesn't look a day over

a thousand.

She's not old.

She doesn't look, she doesn't look.

I mean,

her mind is still there.

And I actually have a lot of respect for her.

I don't like the way she rules at all, but I really respect her.

The relationship between her and Scalia

is fantastic.

I love that.

They were actually very good friends.

Very good friends.

She was born in 1933.

So that would make her 85.

Well,

she doesn't look a day

younger than 85.

But yeah, I mean, she just had a big documentary put out about it.

And she's kind of become a liberal

lion.

Who would you compare her to?

Because

she's almost like a

Betty White.

You know how Betty White was always a popular, she was very accomplished in her job.

Sure.

And then all of a sudden she became this sort of like

she hit her celebrity hit another crazy level, and she's kind of just loved and respected.

The left loves her that way.

I don't know if Ginsburg would appreciate the comparison, you know, to Betty White, although I understand it.

Might be a little more gravitas

because of her position, but.

you ever see Betty White Polly?

No, I apparently not.

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She's fantastic.

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You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

We welcome to the program the one, the only Mr.

Pat Gray.

Hello, Pat.

How are you?

Hello, Glenn.

I'm good.

Good.

Stu?

Hi.

I'm well.

Thank you for asking, Pat.

Good.

You didn't ask.

I didn't ask initially, but I thought.

So, what's on your mind today?

I'm kind of impressed with the Supreme Court rulings.

Two pretty good ones.

It's a mystery to me why they don't specify more things, why they don't actually rule on

whether or not things are constitutional.

They tend to rule on an ancillary issue.

Well, that's what they try to do, though.

I don't want them to.

Let's definitively decide it.

And the travel ban.

I mean, can we now tell Democrats?

That's settled law, man.

I don't even want to hear about that anymore.

That is settled law.

Same with the abortion thing.

The ruling was that you don't have to tell them about abortion as a possibility when a mother is considering adoption.

Wasn't that the gist of it?

You can't force speech on professionals just because they're professionals.

I mean, that's amazing.

Because of the way all of these things have been going, no, it shouldn't be, but

how does that work with the kind of fuzzy

you can

colorado it looks like colorado just misbehaved and made it about religion uh but uh you know maybe you can uh force people to make a wedding cake well that's a professional too and your art is your speech yeah i think there's a lot of inconsistencies here we mentioned the obama one before in that where they did say well sure it's not the tax and the fee you know it's not in the document but but we know what they meant and therefore now it's in the document.

It's the exact opposite of what they're saying here.

They're saying, you know, and again, this is Clarence Thomas writing it, so of course it's better.

But, you know, Thomas is saying, look,

you can't do that.

And then in the travel ban case, and the travel ban case, by the way, is Roberts, right?

I think Roberts is the one who did the travel ban case.

So again, like, which is bizarre.

I mean, that was his, it was his

ruling that said you could insert stuff into the bill if you really want to.

You know, there's disaccord.

There's no set number of Supreme Court justices.

It doesn't have to be nine.

No, don't.

Don't.

It could be 12 or it could be one, Clarence Thomas.

Why can't we just make him the Supreme Court?

It's a tad risky if he happens to die at any point in the next 50 years.

Franklin.

It's just a thought.

You know, I mean.

And it was a thought that was tried by Franklin Roosevelt, and everybody went crazy.

He just wanted to stack it with his people.

I'm just saying,

I'm not going to stack it anything.

I'm just putting one guy in there.

From a percentage standpoint, you kind of are stacking it, Pat.

So I tell you what, Pat, we'll do that, but we have to just draw blindly for the name that gets that one slot.

No, no, okay.

All right.

All right.

I think that's a good idea.

But

it's nice to have some sanity restored to the travel ban

discussion because

as you were saying earlier, the argument against it was that it was just like the Japanese internment camp.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So pretty soundly rejected that argument.

Except they're not citizens.

Oh, and we're not putting them in prisons.

Oh, and we didn't confiscate their property.

Other than that, it is

exactly the same thing.

Well, George Takai would tell you that it's not.

As he said recently about

what's happening on the border, he said in his, he was, he remembers being rounded up in an internment camp.

And he was four.

Yeah.

And he said, I remember it and it was horrible, but what's happening on the border now is worse than the Japanese internment camps.

That's such an asidine.

That is.

It's an insult to the injury that was the Japanese internment.

Well, I mean, we did give them 20 grand like 30 years later.

Oh, yeah, $20,000.

That's great.

Changed their whole lives.

The lives of their grandchildren.

Generations of people

have absolutely everything and then coming home and you don't have anything.

You don't have anything.

Your land is sold and you got nothing.

I wouldn't even know where to start, what to do.

I wouldn't either.

I mean, that had to devastate people.

Can you imagine how hard it was to restart your life if the country

had just deemed that you were a possible enemy

and now you come back?

How did you even start your life again?

How did you fit back into the community?

Because they didn't give you anything to restart your life.

No.

Nothing.

Hey, sorry you were here for the last four years.

Oh, well.

I mean, that's really what they got until, what was it, late 80s or early 90s when we finally

compensated the families $20,000 each.

That would have been good at the time, you know, to help them get their stuff back.

Or maybe you don't take their stuff in the first place.

That might have been a good idea.

Yeah, that's a good idea.

By the way, they kind of harkened back to this era with the abortion ruling as well, with Thomas writing in the majority, basically, like, you can't force professionals to say things just because they're professionals.

We've noticed this in history.

You know, kind of a guy named Adolph did this,

kind of made doctors around the country come up with forced to kind of agree on certain things, like certain people were inferior, for example.

And he goes to the point of like, you can't, government cannot gather a bunch of a group of professionals and make them say things.

Or do things, right?

Like in the case of the bakery, all the bakers shouldn't be forced to do that.

And by the way, Thomas is very consistent.

Yeah, he's probably one of the few that would be.

In his concurrent.

I mean,

he does what you want, Pat, which is, and I want as well, which is don't just try to make it this little tiny, narrow thing.

Say what the principle is when it applies.

I mean, I'd rather have them keep the scope of these things narrow if it's not a larger principle.

But with something like this, where it's like, okay, it's in the Constitution written very clearly that you should have freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

It's two parts of this.

Very blatantly, you should be able to do X, Y, and Z.

And that I think you should really, you should rule

in a more broad sense.

It's like, you know, they say, like, oh, you know, there's a Roe versus Wade comes through.

They're like, oh, there's a right to privacy.

So I guess, yes, forever.

You can never challenge that ruling.

It's like, wait a minute.

How does this happen?

Our rulings never get that sort of treatment.

They're never treated like that.

Well, it's a good thing.

Otherwise, the United States would still be living under the Democratic Jim Crow laws.

If you can't ever question the Supreme Court.

You have to be able to.

You have to be able to.

And including this one, by the way, where they basically overturned the Japanese internment case.

You have to be able to go back and say no.

And at least now there's an idea that if anyone ever tries this again.

I mean, I don't know how much value the Supreme Court has in that moment, but I mean, at least there's some way to push back on it.

The other thing that's pissed me off today is, oh, we're back to catch and release.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it's pretty amazing.

What?

Really?

Well, yeah, we're completely out of room.

Even though Obama had double the people detained, well, yes, but they were much smaller people back then.

You fit in there a lot better.

Do you know how big these people are?

Some of them are 16, 17 feet tall, weigh eight, 900 pounds.

We don't have space for them anymore.

Yeah, they were like eight inches years ago.

Yeah.

People were eight inches.

They remember what it was like in 2010.

Oh, yeah.

They didn't even see some people.

No, they all slept in shoeboxes.

It was amazing.

It was amazing.

We had like a whole country full of Lilliputians that were detained.

Now you can't say that.

These are normal and gigantic people.

You don't hear us use the words little people anymore.

Little people, midgets, little people.

You don't hear even little people anymore.

And that was the politically, it's just Mexicans.

Now, really?

Yeah.

Now that's okay.

Yeah.

Right.

Except they're not anymore.

Not anymore.

They grew.

You don't call them

little people or little people Mexicans now.

They're giants.

In the last two years, they've gotten extremely big down there.

I don't know what it is.

Must be something in the water.

That's why they tell us not to drink.

So are we now for catching release?

Because I'm trying to keep up.

If you're on the conservative side, are you not?

That is such a good question.

Yeah, that's going to be fascinating to hear today.

I bet you've been just because I know I filled in for Pat last week and was just berated with calls of people really angry that the, you know, that there was kind of a turn back to a more lenient immigration policy.

People really upset about it.

Oh, yeah.

They were just infuriated.

I bet they weren't.

What?

I did get one call.

I got one call.

I got a lot of calls.

I got one call who actually said, you know what?

I'm kind of annoyed.

We had a tough border policy.

We've just turned it around based on media pressure.

Isn't that a problem?

I got one call.

One call about that.

I was fascinated to see if people would call because I know

in a parallel universe somewhere, there's a guy doing a radio talk show, and he's getting berated by calls that a Republican president has turned back from a tough border policy to a much more lenient one based on media pressure.

That's happening somewhere in the ether, not here.

We've not had many calls about that.

That's at a place called 2006.

Yeah.

Certainly if Mitch McConnell did it, we'd be getting George Bush.

George Bush, we got calls all the time about George Bush.

George Bush was a globalist.

And I don't don't know.

That might just be people are, you know, more, like, for example, you know, and there's some evidence here, right?

Like, we just talked about two great Supreme Court decisions that theoretically, if, you know, if McConnell didn't hold up the, you know, Merrick Garland

nomination from Obama and then wound up getting a Republican president and then Trump naming a very good justice, seemingly, in Gorsuch, who's been very solid so far.

If those three things didn't happen,

you would have potentially,

both of these rulings could have gone the other way.

And so maybe you're just willing to kind of overlook that stuff.

Yeah, no, I mean, I think we have to be able to get to a place to where

we don't overlook it,

but doesn't mean we don't accept it.

Doesn't mean we're like, okay, you know what?

I got this, this, and this, which I never thought I would get.

I will, I'll tolerate this.

Because it is about compromise.

You're never going to get everything that you want.

However, that's not the way it's it's going, though.

That's not the way it is.

It's, I'm thrilled with this.

This is the, that's the policy we're actually working for the whole time.

What?

I mean, you have to at least be consistent because there's a lot of people who are.

But you love catch and release that you hated under Obama.

You love that now?

I mean, that's

what it goes, too.

I mean, you know, Sam Alito is a pretty good justice, too.

And George Bush never got the, you know, oh, well, yeah, but he gave us Alito.

We never got those calls.

I don't think we ever got a call said, oh, they gave us us Alito.

Alito's been fantastic.

And conservatives didn't side with Bush when he was with him.

But here's the thing.

Let me just point out before I go into this.

Remember, this is the one thing that everybody called during the election.

We said, okay, what is the one thing?

Is there anything

immigration?

If he backs off of immigration, but I don't think that's true anymore.

I just don't think anybody's going to care.

I think that's true.

I mean, I think that's at least partially because something you've explained and illustrated by putting on the hat, right?

In that, like, the media is so ridiculous against Trump that it's almost hard to,

you know, for a lot of people to get on the bandwagon of any criticism of him because you feel like he's had an unfair shake.

Though I will say, he was really bad on George W.

Bush, too.

This is not a new thing for a Republican president.

No, no, no, but you now have

15 years behind that.

Yeah.

I mean, we've been doing this for 18 years now.

Listen to this.

Remember,

the reason why I put on that red hat was to say to the media, you're driving people into his arms.

You're just driving them.

Because if you can get me to feel bad for this guy and feel like he's being picked on, if you can get me to do that,

you're going to lose everything.

You're so far off the track.

Here's the latest Gallup polls.

Gallup has Trump's approval at a new high since the beginning of his presidency, 45%.

That's the same as others at the same point.

Barack Obama, 46.

Bill Clinton, 46.

Ronald Reagan, 45.

Jimmy Carter, 43.

Support among Republicans is at 90%.

Among Independents, he's up to 42% tied for his personal best, and

only the fourth week in his presidency that he has been over 40%.

Trump's attacks on Mueller are working.

Special Counsel now has a 53% unfavorable

rating

and a new high, a whopping 26-point spike since 2016.

Trump thinks he has the winning formula, and he may be right.

The more he trashes Mueller, the more he trashes the media, and then the media trashes him, the more Republicans want to save his back.

And the more casual viewers see everything, like the Russia probe, as messy and muddy, but they don't see Trump as messy and muddy.

We're growing more and more tribal, and this is what I was trying, I wanted to explain to Brian Selter, but they don't want to hear it.

But they are truly responsible for the poll numbers with Donald Trump going up.

Yep.

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