'There Are Two Americas' - 2/26/18

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Speaker 1 love

Speaker 1 courage

Speaker 1 truth

Speaker 1 Glenn back

Speaker 4 I've been reading a lot of history I've been reading a lot of philosophy I've been reading a lot of

Speaker 9 Jesus I've been I've been reading a lot

Speaker 10 Trying to figure out how the hell did did we get here.

Speaker 12 Now, I know the progressive era.

Speaker 13 I know the movement of postmodernism.

Speaker 16 I know history, so I know where we're headed.

Speaker 18 But what happened?

Speaker 19 How is it so many people just don't care about facts anymore?

Speaker 23 What is that?

Speaker 24 I believe we have come to the end of the Enlightenment.

Speaker 25 The Enlightenment was

Speaker 27 a period in the 1700s that

Speaker 26 was the

Speaker 32 death of religion and the death of the king.

Speaker 14 It was the death of people ruling over other people.

Speaker 17 Because people had an opportunity to read, to think, to pray, to read their Bible,

Speaker 19 to listen to science.

Speaker 13 And so they said, no more nonsense. No more nonsense.

Speaker 25 No more people telling me I am your king because God told me I was your king.

Speaker 42 Well, I can't sense that.

Speaker 43 I can't feel that. I can't taste that.
I can't see it, hear it, smell it.

Speaker 13 I'm not going to buy into that because it's nonsense.

Speaker 13 And so we put an end to nonsense and we came to common sense.

Speaker 13 There is something in all of us called common sense.

Speaker 47 And we're going to base our lives on common sense

Speaker 50 and the search for truth.

Speaker 35 Being right isn't the important thing.

Speaker 50 The actual search for truth is the important thing.

Speaker 53 And we're not going to take the truth handed down to us from some king,

Speaker 55 from some priest.

Speaker 56 We're going to find it ourselves.

Speaker 24 That was the enlightenment.

Speaker 57 Fix reason firmly in her seat.

Speaker 58 and question with boldness even the very existence of God.

Speaker 41 For if there be a God, he must surely rather honest questions over blindfolded fear.

Speaker 61 Tell me the last time you saw an honest question come out of somebody on TV.

Speaker 42 Tell me the last time you saw an honest question being uttered by a politician.

Speaker 63 I mean, when I say honest question, I mean one where the person is actually seeking the truth and it could change their mind.

Speaker 63 They're willing to ask a question where if the person on the other side has a really great answer, they might say,

Speaker 72 huh,

Speaker 10 I don't know.

Speaker 73 I've never thought of it that way.

Speaker 40 I can't respond to that right now.

Speaker 31 I might have to get back to you.

Speaker 66 When's the last time you saw that?

Speaker 13 That's the spirit of the Enlightenment.

Speaker 16 That is what set America apart.

Speaker 46 But we have replaced our churches with our parties,

Speaker 70 with our ideological dogma.

Speaker 58 We have replaced our church and our God with the planet and global warming.

Speaker 57 Fix reason firmly in her seat.

Speaker 65 Is global warming happening?

Speaker 45 Well, it was for a while because I can read a thermometer.

Speaker 56 0.7 degrees in the last 100 years.

Speaker 9 So is global warming happening?

Speaker 58 Well, it was.

Speaker 76 Yes.

Speaker 41 Now,

Speaker 80 no.

Speaker 32 Will it start again?

Speaker 80 Maybe.

Speaker 37 Do I believe in global warming?

Speaker 41 Let me check the thermometers.

Speaker 58 It's pretty easy.

Speaker 70 Do I believe that it's man-made?

Speaker 58 My reason tells me that you can't just trash the sky and the water and

Speaker 37 the forests and the land and everything.

Speaker 86 Just trash it and everything's going to be great.

Speaker 58 So, yeah, I think man does affect the planet.

Speaker 24 Does he affect it enough with

Speaker 57 CO2, something that trees breathe?

Speaker 66 Something that plants breathe?

Speaker 17 Maybe.

Speaker 46 I don't think so.

Speaker 19 I've seen the science.

Speaker 20 You can make a case.

Speaker 77 I think you can make a stronger case the other way.

Speaker 65 $14 trillion

Speaker 88 to fight it.

Speaker 89 Does any of it work?

Speaker 23 No.

Speaker 57 If you believe in CO2, well then common sense would say that you need to stop eating all animals.

Speaker 82 Stop eating farm animals.

Speaker 69 If you stop eating beef, you will do more to help, quote, the planet

Speaker 66 than getting rid of all of the cars and everything else combined.

Speaker 46 It is the biggest factor.

Speaker 47 So if you fix reason firmly in her seat, I'll have a conversation with somebody who believes in global warming.

Speaker 35 I'm going to have a hard time if it's your religion.

Speaker 49 But if you're opened to a rational conversation and you're a vegetarian, a vegan,

Speaker 14 I'm cool.

Speaker 68 Okay, at least you're consistent.

Speaker 89 Now, let's have a discussion.

Speaker 76 But I will not listen to somebody who has burger breath and telling me that

Speaker 65 we are five years away from not being able to turn things around.

Speaker 57 You should be going after the meat industry, not the car industry, if that's what you believe.

Speaker 10 Let's try this one.

Speaker 89 If you believe that we have to stop

Speaker 13 children from picking up sticks and pretending that it's a gun,

Speaker 37 that we must stop, In fact, you've gone so far to classify finger guns, which all kids have played with forever.

Speaker 34 That we have to fix

Speaker 46 our society because we are teaching our kids to be violent with the class two

Speaker 14 look-alike firearm.

Speaker 58 That is now in the code book as a finger gun.

Speaker 77 You know, like you used to as a kid.

Speaker 39 That's a class two look-alike finger gun okay

Speaker 10 all right you believe that that is so dangerous that our kids are pointing their fingers at one another that that teaches them to be violent well i'm i don't believe that but i am with you if

Speaker 69 if

Speaker 86 You are leading the way in Hollywood to stop all violence in movies because certainly if a kid points his finger with a finger gun

Speaker 34 that's training him certainly watching all that violence with big impressive stars has got to be doing something and god forbid hollywood let's talk about gamings where we can gaming our kids can be in virtual reality with a machine gun

Speaker 65 they can be a sniper and shooting people in the head.

Speaker 16 And you don't want to have a conversation about that at all.

Speaker 46 What are you, oh, you just,

Speaker 7 what are you, some Neanderthal?

Speaker 93 Oh yeah, like the games are making it.

Speaker 78 Wait, the class two lookalike finger gun?

Speaker 57 That does, but games don't?

Speaker 63 I can't have a conversation with you. I cannot have a conversation with you.

Speaker 68 This is the problem.

Speaker 49 There are two Americas, and it is not left and right.

Speaker 65 It is those who are willing to engage in logical conversation and actual thinking,

Speaker 35 and those who want to do Common Core.

Speaker 89 Two plus two equals five, if you can show me how you got there.

Speaker 25 You want to ban all guns.

Speaker 13 Let's think this through.

Speaker 59 We're the only country on earth that has the right to bear arms in the Constitution.

Speaker 76 So, to get all guns taken away, to get ARs, ARs have been around since Vietnam.

Speaker 69 Why is it that all of a sudden we're having shooting with AR?

Speaker 37 Why are ARs a problem now?

Speaker 102 They weren't a problem in the 70s, but they are suddenly now.

Speaker 46 If you fix reason firmly in her seat, that will tell you something has changed within us,

Speaker 67 not the gun.

Speaker 51 However,

Speaker 10 you want to take away all guns.

Speaker 46 That will take you possibly a civil war, but it will take you years to get that done.

Speaker 45 But you want to make sure that we we never have this problem in school again.

Speaker 51 Okay.

Speaker 13 Well then we probably shouldn't start start with the guns.

Speaker 99 We can talk about that as long as we fix reason firmly in her seat.

Speaker 10 But are you aware that out of all of the mass shootings since 1950, all of them, only

Speaker 85 two

Speaker 84 have happened in a place where people can carry guns?

Speaker 25 98.9%

Speaker 30 of all mass shootings in America have happened in a gun-free zone.

Speaker 56 That should tell you something.

Speaker 51 How about this one?

Speaker 100 I don't want my kids living in a prison.

Speaker 81 Well, I don't want my kids living in a prison either.

Speaker 71 Well, that's what it'll be if you have armed guards around our schools.

Speaker 85 A prison?

Speaker 10 I don't know. I've I've gone to a football game recently.

Speaker 65 They they practically gave me an anal cavity search.

Speaker 58 It's a football game.

Speaker 61 I didn't feel like I was living in a prison.

Speaker 78 I go travel at the airport.

Speaker 45 That's pretty intense.

Speaker 62 I don't feel like the airport is a prison.

Speaker 52 I feel it's nonsense, but I don't feel like it's a prison.

Speaker 90 I go to mega churches.

Speaker 103 Mega churches have security everywhere, armed personnel.

Speaker 52 I don't feel like that's a prison.

Speaker 92 I go to a concert.

Speaker 41 They check my wife's bag I walk through a metal detector I'm wandered I don't feel like the concert is a prison

Speaker 41 I go to a bank there's armed guards there cameras everywhere alarm systems I don't feel like I'm in a prison I feel like I'm in a bank

Speaker 108 why is it we protect everything

Speaker 93 We make sure you're wanded for everything.

Speaker 6 But God forbid we do that to protect our children.

Speaker 56 Is the stuff in a bank worth more than your child?

Speaker 37 Is a concert a higher priority to protect

Speaker 110 than our children in schools everywhere across the country?

Speaker 51 I'm just trying to just trying to figure out what we're actually trying to accomplish here.

Speaker 13 Because I don't think

Speaker 52 I don't think we're actually trying to accomplish anything except win.

Speaker 51 That's it.

Speaker 37 We're not actually trying to solve a problem.

Speaker 54 Both sides just want to be right.

Speaker 29 That's it.

Speaker 37 They just want to make sure that we get guns off the street because they're right.

Speaker 23 No.

Speaker 74 No, I don't think that's been decided except for you in your mass.

Speaker 74 In your church service, wherever you hold that strange,

Speaker 10 I hate the Second Amendment church service, wherever you hold that ceremony, that's what you've decided.

Speaker 104 Now, I don't know if we can pull you out of your church long enough to fix reason firmly in her seat,

Speaker 81 but the problem with our country is that we have officially,

Speaker 69 officially

Speaker 96 unpegged ourselves from

Speaker 14 the first principle

Speaker 24 of making this system, this grand American experiment that man can rule himself.

Speaker 10 We have unpegged,

Speaker 71 we have drawn up the anchor, and we have pulled out of the port of reason.

Speaker 27 It is the enlightenment that gave this experience, this experiment, breath.

Speaker 95 It gave it life

Speaker 67 man cannot

Speaker 58 cannot rule himself without reason

Speaker 115 we're better than this

Speaker 101 we know these things to be self-evident

Speaker 107 we have just put on jerseys

Speaker 117 I will tell you what I've told the NRA since the day I joined them.

Speaker 16 I don't join clubs. clubs.
I don't join groups.

Speaker 81 The only two groups that I think I belong to, my church,

Speaker 15 and I question

Speaker 87 all the time.

Speaker 35 I'm in trouble all the time because I question all the time.

Speaker 31 Good.

Speaker 86 Same with the NRA.

Speaker 33 The minute they would violate and start to become a political

Speaker 19 source that was betraying the Second Amendment in any way, I'm done with it.

Speaker 37 That's the only reason.

Speaker 16 I don't join for the discounts.

Speaker 57 I joined the NRA because they stand to protect the Second Amendment.

Speaker 58 And they do it with reason.

Speaker 61 The problem is our society has unpegged from reason.

Speaker 104 I urge you today, fix reason firmly in her seat and question with boldness.

Speaker 19 Question to the point to where you're open to changing your mind.

Speaker 68 Ask honest questions.

Speaker 61 Because that's the only way we're going to save our children.

Speaker 61 And don't get me even started on that story about

Speaker 102 the girl, I think, used to be a girl, now she's...

Speaker 81 A boy, but she's wrestling girls, and now the girls are upset because it's a boy.

Speaker 83 I can't even figure it out.

Speaker 110 Remember the data breach at Equifax last September?

Speaker 56 The one that exposed social security numbers, names, and birth dates over 145 million customers.

Speaker 7 It

Speaker 61 looks like there's more sensitive information that was exposed than first reported.

Speaker 62 What a surprise.

Speaker 56 Documents provided to a Senate committee reveal that tax IDs and driver's license details might have also been accessed.

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Speaker 60 Glenn Beck. We're going to fix reason firmly in her seat and go over the Jake Tapper and the sheriff of Nottingham

Speaker 30 and

Speaker 101 his interview.

Speaker 7 It was

Speaker 106 quite amazing if you haven't seen it.

Speaker 13 We're going to go over it here in just a second.

Speaker 116 Let me just give you one little highlight here.

Speaker 73 Go ahead, Sarah.

Speaker 121 Do you think that if the Broward Sheriff's Office had done things differently, this shooting might not have happened?

Speaker 97 Listen, if ifs and buts were candy and nuts, you know, O.J. Simpson would still be in a record book.

Speaker 31 I don't know what that means.

Speaker 121 There's 17 dead people, and there's a whole long list of things your department could have done differently.

Speaker 30 Man.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 122 You know, I think this is why I think Jake Tapper is one of the best journalists out there.

Speaker 60 He'll piss you off one day, and the very next day, you'll be cheering for him.

Speaker 119 It should show that maybe he's not as biased as

Speaker 114 I am.

Speaker 32 You know what I mean? That once in a while, you know, you're like, oh, why would you say that?

Speaker 35 But the very next day,

Speaker 28 he is asking the same person really tough questions.

Speaker 62 And boy, did he ask this sheriff tough questions.

Speaker 112 He asked the sheriff pretty much every question that I had for him.

Speaker 43 Every question I had.

Speaker 112 And followed up on many of them as well. I mean, he and created a whole list of new questions after the interview.
We should go through it because there was a lot there.

Speaker 112 This guy is, I don't know how he makes it through this with his job.

Speaker 22 I don't know how. This is a disaster.

Speaker 104 We fix Reason firmly in her seat and

Speaker 62 ask the sheriff some reasonable questions and really get tough answers back.

Speaker 23 Glenn. No answers.
Back.

Speaker 18 Mercury.

Speaker 11 Another school shooting.

Speaker 105 The gunfire lasted less than 10 minutes, but this.

Speaker 123 Heavily armed with a bulletproof vest, loads of ammunition, and a powerful AR-15.

Speaker 73 Another debate about banning guns.

Speaker 97 Keep assault rifles out of the hands of people who are going to shoot our kids.

Speaker 124 I want this to be the catalyst, the end of the Second Amendment.

Speaker 11 Now, more than ever, you need to know the facts.

Speaker 97 Get control, exposing the truth about guns on Amazon and wherever books are sold.

Speaker 31 All right, so

Speaker 98 I want to talk to you about this school shooting and where we go from here, but I want to do it with

Speaker 35 this in mind.

Speaker 92 If it meant, if it meant

Speaker 109 that

Speaker 109 we could stop all shootings,

Speaker 61 would you consider an infringement on your Second Amendment right, if it meant?

Speaker 53 To me, the answer is yes, but I know the evidence shows that it doesn't work.

Speaker 72 So, no, no.

Speaker 86 If you could show me

Speaker 13 real evidence that this was an outdated mode of thinking and that,

Speaker 96 you know, we had somehow or another solved the reason why you should have guns in the first place, and that is against tyranny,

Speaker 90 and you need it for self-protection.

Speaker 126 Well, then you could talk me into it. But I've never seen that evidence.

Speaker 26 I've looked for that evidence, but I'm open to hearing new evidence.

Speaker 6 Share away.

Speaker 16 If you are on the other side and I could show you evidence that

Speaker 119 we could do a few things beside not taking away guns and it was effective,

Speaker 126 would you change your mind?

Speaker 108 Would you say, well, let's start there.

Speaker 78 And for both sides, if we could get to a place to where I could just say, look, you know, we want to have this gun debate.

Speaker 35 That's fine.

Speaker 56 But this is one of the oldest debates in American history.

Speaker 119 What is a militia?

Speaker 56 So we're not going to solve this in the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 113 Do we all believe that

Speaker 15 more shooting is coming?

Speaker 122 I think it's safe to say, yes, we all know that.

Speaker 113 Okay, so what are we going to do to solve it?

Speaker 35 Well, the first thing is, what can we learn from this shooting?

Speaker 92 What can we learn from the last shooting?

Speaker 7 We learned from the last shooting in the church that, A, somebody who is just a civilian with a firearm can stop the shooting.

Speaker 35 But we also learned that the Air Force was not reporting people with mental health issues or issues with guns and domestic abuse to put them in the system.

Speaker 77 That had to be changed.

Speaker 10 Now, what have we learned on this one?

Speaker 58 Well, I think one thing that we've learned is there's something wrong with this sheriff.

Speaker 13 There's something wrong, deeply wrong, in Broward County.

Speaker 27 It's one thing to have one guy that stays out of the building and waits while the shooting is going on.

Speaker 31 But there were four sheriff deputies.

Speaker 112 He denies that,

Speaker 112 although his denial has lots of

Speaker 22 qualifications to it,

Speaker 112 which maybe we'll hear some of that here in this interview. But I think there's also the thing of, what do you learn from this mass shooting?

Speaker 112 And one of the things I think when you're leading up to the mass shooting is if every citizen in America has told you that one specific person is going to do a school shooting, that might be a time to understand that perhaps that person is in danger of doing a school shooting.

Speaker 112 Maybe you should do something about that.

Speaker 126 When you have the number of reports and the number of altercations with this student that they did and the Sheriff's Department did nothing, that's a problem.

Speaker 56 That's a real problem. And that's easy to fix.

Speaker 126 Let's make sure that's not happening anyplace else.

Speaker 28 Let's discuss this and get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 58 Jake Tapper started unraveling this

Speaker 68 hero sheriff's story

Speaker 119 over the weekend.

Speaker 25 And let's start with why was there no report when they called and said he's going to be a school shooter?

Speaker 8 He's a school shooter in the making, and he has access to guns.

Speaker 100 Why was there no report?

Speaker 85 Listen.

Speaker 121 Fewer than three months ago, your office received a call from a tipster explicitly saying that Cruz could be a, quote, school shooter in the making.

Speaker 121 According to notes released on that call, no report was even initiated.

Speaker 121 At this point, sir, do you understand how the public, seeing red flag after red flag after red flag, warning after warning after warning, they hear that your office didn't even initiate a report when they got a call saying that this guy could be a school shooter in the making?

Speaker 121 How could there not even be a report on this one?

Speaker 97 Well, if that's accurate, Jake,

Speaker 97 there needed to be a report and that's what we're looking into that a report needed to be uh completed it needed to be forwarded to our either homeland security or or violent crimes unit and and they would have followed up on your notes that's from notes released by your office i'm not i'm not making this up this is from broward no and that's and that's what that the the officer who handled that is on restrictive duty and we are that's an active internal investigation and we are looking into it okay so there's another person

Speaker 26 under his command that has failed to do the job.

Speaker 35 Yet he wanted more law enforcement power.

Speaker 74 That should always scare people.

Speaker 35 What are you doing with the power that you do have?

Speaker 15 But he's been asking for more power.

Speaker 14 Listen.

Speaker 97 The whole crux of this is giving law enforcement, giving deputies, giving police officers, not only in Broward County, but in Florida and around the nation, expanded power to be able able to do something more than just write a report.

Speaker 97 That's the whole reason I went on CNN and the United States.

Speaker 121 Isn't making a threat against a school a crime?

Speaker 97 Not if the person doesn't have the ability to carry it out. You could say a nonspecific threat, I'm going to go to a school or it's not a crime.

Speaker 97 If the person doesn't have the apparent ability to carry it out, it's not a crime.

Speaker 121 In September 2016, the shooter indicated he wanted to buy a gun. Deputy Peterson knew about that.
He initiated a report. The school launched a threat assessment.

Speaker 121 At this point, you have somebody saying that they're going to shoot up a school and somebody with a gun. That's not enough?

Speaker 97 That's not enough.

Speaker 85 That's not enough.

Speaker 2 Huh.

Speaker 112 And that's just one of the incidents. Of course, there's dozens.
But I mean, huh?

Speaker 59 Is that true?

Speaker 112 Because his first answer is, do they have the ability to carry it out? Yes.

Speaker 112 Then he says, well, it hasn't.

Speaker 85 Stop using reason.

Speaker 73 Okay, I'm going to. Yeah.

Speaker 81 say, calm down.

Speaker 56 He said, calm down.

Speaker 26 Stop using reason.

Speaker 56 Let's just jump on his side or against him, depending on what our religion tells us to do.

Speaker 85 That's true.

Speaker 126 So reason would tell you, well, let's stop here.

Speaker 48 Let's stop here.

Speaker 51 Is that true?

Speaker 59 Now, we know that's not true.

Speaker 56 We know that's not true.

Speaker 34 There was a paper trail very long against this kid.

Speaker 56 So you obviously have enough power to make sure that he is not around guns, to make sure that he gets some sort of medical treatment, et cetera, et cetera, whatever it is.

Speaker 86 You may not be able to throw him in prison, but you certainly can restrict him with all of the stuff that we had.

Speaker 100 So we know that's not true.

Speaker 46 If it was true, that should be the first thing the sheriff is asking for.

Speaker 58 Right there.

Speaker 46 Here's specifics.

Speaker 25 I had 31

Speaker 15 complaints against this guy.

Speaker 70 19 of them them we did exactly right.

Speaker 33 Okay, we'll get back to the others that you didn't get right.

Speaker 77 But on those 19, I couldn't do anything.

Speaker 25 And we knew he had a gun.

Speaker 33 We knew that he was holding it to people's heads.

Speaker 58 We knew that he was threatening to shoot up the school.

Speaker 70 And we couldn't do anything.

Speaker 33 We know that's not true.

Speaker 14 But if it is true, or if it were true, that should be the first thing we work on, don't you think?

Speaker 126 Because there has to be other schools and other sheriffs that are facing the same thing.

Speaker 99 I know this kid is going to go and do something because of the 19 reports that we have, but I can't do anything.

Speaker 74 We should hear from those sheriffs.

Speaker 48 We should know.

Speaker 46 Let us help you protect the children.

Speaker 85 All right.

Speaker 42 Next cut.

Speaker 81 When did he know about Peterson?

Speaker 117 I love this one.

Speaker 121 When did you find out that Deputy Peterson had not gone into the building? How soon after the shooting did you know that?

Speaker 97 Not for days.

Speaker 34 We

Speaker 97 had investigators looked.

Speaker 97 I'm not sure.

Speaker 121 Because you spent much of the Wednesday night town hall on CNN

Speaker 121 with the entire Stoneman Douglas community, students and teachers and parents, attacking the NRA, saying that police need more powers, more money to prevent future tragedies.

Speaker 121 You didn't disclose any of this to the crowd then, the Stoneman Douglas high school community. Did you know it then? Did you know it Wednesday night?

Speaker 97 It was spoken about

Speaker 97 earlier during that day. I'm not on a timeline for TV or any news show.
We need to get it right. We need to get it accurate.
We're talking about people's lives. We're talking about a community.

Speaker 97 We need to corroborate. We need to verify.

Speaker 97 And once we did the next day, and I looked at the tape and I was 100% certain that it happened the way I was told about the investigators initially told about.

Speaker 97 I didn't even release it right you didn't look at the video

Speaker 121 one week after the shooting you hadn't looked at the video yet

Speaker 97 I looked at the video as soon as our investigators

Speaker 97 it wasn't my job to look at the video it was investigators job to look at the video I'm still sheriffing this this this this county there were many things to do we have investigators homicide investigators internal affairs investigators dissecting it and when they felt that there was a video that ready for my view that I might take action on one of our deputies.

Speaker 97 I looked at the video.

Speaker 112 I mean, if you believe this guy hadn't seen that video before that town hall in a week's time, then he needs to be dismissed as incompetent just for that.

Speaker 112 I mean, there's tons of things that I would love to sell you. But the other thing is, can you imagine, forget it, even if he saw the video.
He tells you there that he knew about it going on stage.

Speaker 112 Can you imagine the balls to go on stage on national television and yell at Dana Lash and say that she's not standing up for these kids when you know that your deputy was actually not standing up.

Speaker 112 He was crouching behind a wall while people were being executed inside the school.

Speaker 127 Can you imagine the balls to go on television and not bring that up?

Speaker 59 Now listen to this. Listen to this idea.

Speaker 22 That's incredible.

Speaker 118 Let's just fix reason firmly in her seat and let's just use his logic.

Speaker 16 He doesn't want to go on television because

Speaker 87 there's a crowd there.

Speaker 126 It's community.

Speaker 26 It's a community that is grieving.

Speaker 56 And he wants to make sure you just don't go in front of that community, in front of that crowd, unless he can verify everything.

Speaker 24 And he's 100%

Speaker 116 sure that that's what happened.

Speaker 53 So he was 100% sure that the NRA caused this shooting.

Speaker 21 He's 100%

Speaker 6 sure

Speaker 7 that it was the gun and not the kid.

Speaker 105 He was 100% sure, even though

Speaker 71 he had evidence presented to him that things could have been different if not one, but four of his deputies would have moved in.

Speaker 102 He was 100% sure that it was the NRA's fault,

Speaker 25 but he wouldn't bring anything.

Speaker 46 He wouldn't bring anything about his group unless he was 100% sure and he just wasn't, he wasn't there.

Speaker 58 But he was so sure that the people who weren't there were at fault.

Speaker 56 I don't understand that.

Speaker 86 That doesn't seem like you're really doing an investigation.

Speaker 64 That seems like a witch hunt.

Speaker 112 Oh, and he didn't want to let that fact out in front of the families

Speaker 112 in a public forum.

Speaker 73 He wanted to do it one-on-one, Glenn.

Speaker 112 I wanted to make sure that was one-on-one.

Speaker 58 I know.

Speaker 21 Well, he did the very next morning in a press conference, so he didn't do it one-on-one.

Speaker 112 He just put it out in a press release, talked to reporters about it.

Speaker 56 Talked to reporters, but in this interview with Jake Tapper, Tapper, one of the reasons why he didn't do it was because he needed to, you just didn't tell people like that in a crowd or just an impersonal forum.

Speaker 118 Like the town hall, you needed to, you know, there was one parent that wasn't there, and he wanted to make sure everybody was there so he could personally tell them.

Speaker 112 So all the parents were there at the press release?

Speaker 22 No, that's interesting.

Speaker 85 No, it's strange, isn't it?

Speaker 112 You let that crowd attack Dana Lash, calling her a murderer and all these other terrible things.

Speaker 85 It was mob.

Speaker 37 It was a mob.

Speaker 112 Christians and Lions, as you've been talking about it.

Speaker 85 I mean, absolute mob.

Speaker 112 And you knew, as you were sitting on that stage and

Speaker 112 making it worse by putting more blame on her and the NRA, you knew your own deputy,

Speaker 112 you were going to fire him the next day for dereliction of duty because he didn't go in there. You, your judgment of it, is of his actions are so bad.
And you don't even bring that up.

Speaker 112 And in fact, you make it worse. You make people go after her.

Speaker 14 You make her life be threatened.

Speaker 127 That is incomprehensible.

Speaker 112 If this guy makes it through this thing with his job, that is,

Speaker 79 I don't even, there is absolutely no justice.

Speaker 81 I will tell you that during, during the town hall, during the town hall,

Speaker 99 CNN people wondered if Dana and others had security to be able to get them out.

Speaker 95 They started to worry about the guests' security.

Speaker 14 Wow.

Speaker 85 Huh.

Speaker 13 I know I felt that way, but it's strange to hear CNN might have felt that way, and yet they continued to go.

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Speaker 120 Glenn Beck.

Speaker 5 There is a lot wrong with this sheriff, and we are going to go through our investigation today at 5 o'clock.

Speaker 43 You don't want to miss it.

Speaker 15 What are the things that just don't make sense here?

Speaker 73 And by the way,

Speaker 122 he was nailed for nepotism and hiring you know family members and uh campaign people three hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars in uh in cost adding so he could have his campaign people on staff

Speaker 85 he's there's something wrong here

Speaker 18 mercury

Speaker 18 love

Speaker 18 courage

Speaker 1 truth

Speaker 1 glenn

Speaker 52 The modern era progressive insurrection is coming.

Speaker 25 The coming insurrection.

Speaker 96 Something that we talked about about eight years ago.

Speaker 56 We saw this beginning of this movement in France.

Speaker 35 It's a political civil war fought within the Democratic Party's own house.

Speaker 69 I'm convinced that there are two...

Speaker 13 There are two civil wars going on right now, and they're both happening in each of the parties. One is this

Speaker 10 infiltration and takeover by the alt-right of the GOP and the Democratic socialist takeover of the

Speaker 59 Democratic Party?

Speaker 53 On the one side, in the Democrats, let's just talk about the Democrats here. There's the new blood Democratic socialists, basically just a

Speaker 54 PC and less scary way of saying socialists or Marxists.

Speaker 67 And on the other side, there is the establishment of Democrats.

Speaker 110 The New Blood is now angry, and I think they're about to make their move.

Speaker 56 California may be the first battleground state.

Speaker 63 In a surprise and completely unexpected move, the California State Democratic Party decided not to endorse Senator Diane Feinstein as she gears up campaigning for the 2018 midterms.

Speaker 55 Calling Feinstein a senior senator is a little misleading.

Speaker 106 She's entrenched and been the senior senator for, oh, I think about 150 years.

Speaker 52 She was, I believe she was talking about when she was running for governor

Speaker 28 and how the last time she faced this was when she was running for governor.

Speaker 35 And that was in 1990, I believe.

Speaker 80 She was older than me today.

Speaker 77 She was older than I am today at that time in 1990.

Speaker 93 Feinstein represents everything that the new blood is angry about.

Speaker 48 In their eyes, she's a centrist, a Washington stooge, a corporate sellout.

Speaker 95 And they're tired of the status quo, the capitulation, the lack of direction.

Speaker 70 What is the Democratic platform right now?

Speaker 54 Really? What is it?

Speaker 48 Resistance?

Speaker 59 Opposition to Trump?

Speaker 37 That's not a direction.

Speaker 53 That's a spinning compass.

Speaker 56 And it is exactly the same position that the GOP found itself in after seven years of Obama.

Speaker 53 The establishment had no clue how to reach their base anymore.

Speaker 126 The one thing they knew everybody agreed on was Obamacare had to be stopped, and it was anyone but Hillary.

Speaker 86 Resistance to one thing and one person is not a platform,

Speaker 26 and this leads to disgruntled voters.

Speaker 56 Trump came along and he listened to them, and the result was probably the most stunning upset in American political history.

Speaker 20 The radical progressives are the only voices on the left that are actually outlining any kind of action or agenda.

Speaker 73 To quote Feinstein's newly endorsed opponent within her own party, it's not just about resistance, it's about real laws.

Speaker 126 And here's what they want.

Speaker 74 Open borders, a single-payer healthcare system.

Speaker 90 They want a massive welfare state, and they're tired of waiting for it.

Speaker 86 To them, just like we discussed years ago, In the book from France, The Coming Insurrection, the slow creep and eventual socialist takeover isn't working.

Speaker 56 That's what they were complaining about in France.

Speaker 58 It's taking too long.

Speaker 109 And I don't think you, you people that we elected that promised us this utopian world are ever going to get there.

Speaker 80 I think it's all about you.

Speaker 84 And so in that book, the French were prepared to rise up and take it.

Speaker 109 Progressives, democratic socialists, whatever they're calling themselves

Speaker 15 these days, they are coming for the incumbents, the people like Dianne Feinstein.

Speaker 92 Whether she'll lose or not at this time, I don't know.

Speaker 110 But they are coming, and they're the only ones left with an actual plan.

Speaker 53 They're the only ones with an actual voice and message.

Speaker 92 Democrats are about to make a hard turn to the extreme left.

Speaker 35 What's going down in California, I believe, is just the beginning.

Speaker 1 It's Monday, February 26th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 44 So, today, I'm we started the show with the school shooting and this

Speaker 20 this plea to revive the Enlightenment,

Speaker 54 which is what the movement was that created this country.

Speaker 111 The idea that man can rule himself is being lost because man's proving the point that he can't.

Speaker 7 Because

Speaker 33 he's given in to the religion of the day, our political ideology.

Speaker 99 And so we're changing positions.

Speaker 54 We're going back and forth.

Speaker 128 Nothing makes sense.

Speaker 45 There is no common sense anymore.

Speaker 80 When a class two look-alike firearm, a finger gun, can get somebody in trouble

Speaker 109 because that's teaching our kids to be violent.

Speaker 94 But Hollywood, nobody's even talking about that.

Speaker 76 Or gaming, where you're in a virtual world with a gun and you're shooting people's heads off.

Speaker 37 No, that's nothing to worry about.

Speaker 51 But a class two firearm, something's wrong.

Speaker 7 We have no reason.

Speaker 122 And I want to start focusing on people who are using reason and are breaking the norms.

Speaker 51 People who are, think of this, open

Speaker 35 to having their minds changed one way or another.

Speaker 107 I think journalism is in real trouble because we are, we're just, you know what you're going to read from whatever, you know, news organization you go to.

Speaker 56 You would think reading Politico that Politico is on the left.

Speaker 106 I think most conservatives believe that.

Speaker 119 I'm not sure that they would agree with that.

Speaker 7 But the editor-in-chief of Politico magazine, Blake Hounsell, is a guy who has written a piece lately that I don't know if he's getting heat for saying, wait a minute, hang on just a second.

Speaker 37 I'm not so sure about this Donald Trump

Speaker 21 collusion charge anymore.

Speaker 112 Blake, I'm interested in this piece because

Speaker 112 it's an interesting piece called Confessions of a Russia Gate Skeptic.

Speaker 112 And you point out that there are really serious questions that need to be answered and serious things that have happened as they've gone through these investigations. But you bring up an interesting

Speaker 112 point, which is something I think we've talked about a lot on the show. We weren't big Donald Trump fans here.

Speaker 112 But I've kind of felt the same thing that a lot of these claims about Russia Gate and the outward intentional collusion with Russia may be overblown.

Speaker 22 Could you go through kind of how you came to this conclusion?

Speaker 112 And I'd love to hear, too, if you're getting pushback from people who do seem to have an investment in making sure that this is true.

Speaker 132 Sure. And thanks so much for having me on.
This is something I've been thinking about for a while as I watched some of the breathless coverage of the Russia scandal. And, you know, by the way,

Speaker 132 let me just say that I think that the Russian meddling in the election is a serious matter, and I think

Speaker 85 we saw

Speaker 132 the indictments from Mueller of the 13 Russians and the three Russian organizations.

Speaker 132 They definitely tried to mess with our democracy, and that is serious business.

Speaker 132 The question is really whether Donald Trump was personally involved in cutting a deal with the Russians to help him win the election. And I'm skeptical for a number of reasons, one of which is that

Speaker 132 I watched the Trump campaign, and it was a mess. I mean, it's certainly an achievement that they dispatched a pretty strong Republican field, and

Speaker 132 they beat Hillary Clinton, who was,

Speaker 132 if not a formidable candidate, she certainly had a formidable war chest and organs of the Democratic Party behind her.

Speaker 132 But, you know, remember, this campaign was really disorganized.

Speaker 132 And I think Steve Bannon, of all people, said it best when he said, we couldn't even collude with the Republican National Committee, let alone the Russians.

Speaker 132 And from everything that we saw covering the campaign, I think that's true.

Speaker 132 I mean, these guys couldn't organize a two-car parade.

Speaker 132 And also, this is something I didn't mention in the piece, but I think it's worth noting.

Speaker 132 They didn't expect to win. So if they were counting on this sweet deal with the Russians to get elected,

Speaker 132 why were they leaking in the weeks running up to November 8th that

Speaker 132 they were going to lose? They were all looking for their next gig.

Speaker 132 Trump was quietly working on Trump television. And by all accounts, he was shocked that he actually won.

Speaker 132 So I don't think that kind of thing squares with this notion that there was some secret collusion.

Speaker 132 Having said that, he certainly seemed open to the idea right the Trump Tower meeting with Don Jr.

Speaker 132 where he said you know there's this crazy email from this British promoter who says hey you remember that thing about how the Russians are going to help your father get elected I've got some dirt for you and Don Jr.

Speaker 132 emails back you know if it's what you say it is I love it especially later in the summer But then there's no follow-up as far as we can tell.

Speaker 132 It seems like it was a meeting

Speaker 132 on false pretenses by these people who were trying to get the

Speaker 132 Magnitsky Act sanctions lifted.

Speaker 132 And it's not clear what their connection was to the Russian government.

Speaker 132 I think the the Trump people were disappointed because they were expecting some better dirt than they got, which was some stuff related to Bill Browder, who's a former hedge fund guy who's been

Speaker 132 funding and leading these efforts to sanction the Russians because his lawyer was killed in mysterious circumstances years ago in Russia. So it's murky,

Speaker 132 but I think people have really gotten ahead of their skis. So I think there are lots of reasons to doubt a sort of strong version of the collusion argument.

Speaker 122 So Blake, I think we're in lockstep on this.

Speaker 56 I too believe that the Russians I don't know if they were trying to affect the election as much as they are trying to cause chaos and distrust.

Speaker 42 I mean, that's their own words.

Speaker 122 They are trying to pit us against each other and destroy us from within.

Speaker 42 I mean, the enemy has to come from within for us to really fall, if you believe Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 122 A house divided itself against itself cannot stand.

Speaker 56 And we're doing a nice job at that.

Speaker 12 And yeah, we're doing great.

Speaker 37 We're doing that expertly.

Speaker 85 America's number one.

Speaker 51 Yeah, we're number one at that.

Speaker 46 Do you see a willingness in the press

Speaker 111 to find the real answer, which to me is the real answer is

Speaker 26 Russia is real trouble.

Speaker 117 And if we don't pay attention and we don't start doing things that we need to do, they are going to get better at this

Speaker 106 and hurt us as we did them in the 1980s and early 1990s.

Speaker 64 Do you see a willingness in the press on either side to stop making this about Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump and make this about the Russians and what they're trying to do to us.

Speaker 132 Well, you know, I think it's hard to generalize about the press. There's lots of reporters who are sort of trying to dig into the facts of the investigation.

Speaker 132 And, you know, there's opinion folks that are trying to make

Speaker 132 score political points on one side or the other all the time.

Speaker 132 I do think there is a real bipartisan concern out there about how to stop the Russians the next time around.

Speaker 132 But nobody's really talking about the point that you made, which is that

Speaker 132 the reason they were able to have any success, and it's hard to say what kind of success they had, and how do we measure

Speaker 132 what the impact of their efforts was.

Speaker 132 We are so divided as a country. We're tearing each other apart every day.

Speaker 132 People are sharing

Speaker 132 fake and misleading news all the time. And

Speaker 132 because the partisan divide has gotten so wide and so deep in this country,

Speaker 132 it's like child's play for a country like Russia to come in and manipulate us.

Speaker 106 I mean,

Speaker 119 when you see what they did, they took positions on what was it, right after the election, they did a not my president and a celebratory, you know, pro-Donald Trump party, both in New York City.

Speaker 35 They took the side of the cops against Black Lives Matter and against the cops with Black Lives Matter.

Speaker 7 I mean, that's all they were trying to do is to get us to the extreme to argue with each other and hate each other.

Speaker 132 Yeah, and they're doing a bang-up job of it. I mean, remember that

Speaker 132 people talk about how Michael Flynn went to that Russia Today gala dinner in Moscow. Well, guess who was there? Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate.

Speaker 132 And she's never really adequately explained what she was doing there.

Speaker 132 And then you have lots of evidence, including in the indictment, that the Russians were trying to help Bernie Sanders and boost his campaign during the election.

Speaker 132 So, you know, you have to keep in mind that Vladimir Putin is a completely amoral guy. He doesn't really have an ideology other than Putinism.

Speaker 132 And, you know, he doesn't care whether he's supporting Republicans or Democrats or the Green Party or Libertarians or whoever. He just wants to cause chaos.

Speaker 132 And, you know, it suited his purpose during the election to

Speaker 132 help out Donald Trump, and then it suited his purposes after the election to boost the left and hurt Donald Trump.

Speaker 132 This is a guy who only cares about power, and frankly, you know, he's winning right now.

Speaker 44 Back to Stu's original question.

Speaker 113 Are you getting any pushback from the

Speaker 4 politicos of the world, so to speak,

Speaker 117 that

Speaker 118 want to make this the story of one side or the other, Democrats, Republicans, bad.

Speaker 132 Yeah, I mean, I was, you know, I was hesitant to write this, and I'd been thinking about it for a while for exactly that reason

Speaker 132 that I was afraid I was going to be accused of

Speaker 132 covering for Donald Trump or

Speaker 132 offering him support that he didn't deserve. And,

Speaker 132 you know, finally, I just had to get it off my chest and say what I thought

Speaker 132 because

Speaker 132 I think that people have gotten way out of control and beyond the facts on this.

Speaker 132 Yeah, I've gotten a fair amount of

Speaker 132 respectful, not hateful, criticism on Twitter, mostly from the left.

Speaker 132 And then there are people that are kind of welcoming me into one ideological side or another.

Speaker 2 I'm just trying to call it straight.

Speaker 53 Right. Blake, we're not trying to welcome you into one side or another.

Speaker 52 What we're trying to do is say thank you for saying something that we know probably cost you because you believed it.

Speaker 114 Not because we believe it, but because you believed it.

Speaker 60 We need more brave people to actually say what they think is right and take that risk. Thanks, Blake.
Appreciate it.

Speaker 132 I appreciate it.

Speaker 72 Thanks.

Speaker 112 And that's Blake Hounschell, the editor-in-chief of Politico. So it's a big deal when something like this comes out.
The article is Confessions of a Russia Gate Skeptic.

Speaker 112 And I encourage you to read the whole thing because they go through piece by piece, Papadopoulos, Carter Page, Michael Flynn, all the accusations,

Speaker 112 and take them on in a way that I think is not expected by the rest of the media. So really interesting piece.
We'll tweet it from Ackland back in Atworld of Stupid.

Speaker 7 Courage is contagious.

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Speaker 106 I mean, think about somebody taking 10% of your money and just throwing it away.

Speaker 40 That's what's happened because of the Fed and

Speaker 29 inflation.

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Speaker 18 Glenn Back Mercury.

Speaker 133 Glenn Back.

Speaker 82 Coming up in just a little while, we have John Lott.

Speaker 87 He is probably

Speaker 33 the

Speaker 37 best

Speaker 63 statician, would you call him?

Speaker 12 Statistician on guns.

Speaker 40 He is a co-author of my book, Control, The Truth About Guns.

Speaker 51 And we have him to come in and just let's fix reason firmly in her seat.

Speaker 29 And let's talk about the actual stats.

Speaker 13 of guns and ARs and everything else.

Speaker 81 And let's base our life on facts, not on feelings.

Speaker 102 That's going to be hard to do in this

Speaker 61 world that is disconnected from reason, but let's at least stand our ground.

Speaker 112 And going back to a quick Blake Hounschell from Politico, again, point this out.

Speaker 112 This is a guy who is the editor-in-chief of Politico saying, hey, I don't know if there's really that much to a lot of the things that the media is emphasizing when it comes to the Russia thing.

Speaker 112 And I think it's important to highlight people from the left or from the mainstream media who come and say, say, hey, wait a minute,

Speaker 112 let's take a breath here. And

Speaker 112 let's maybe go push against what the rest of the media is saying.

Speaker 112 I know that whenever we talk about Russia and say, hey, there is something here from Russia, we get pushback from the bright parts of the world who say, we're not, I don't know, being loyal enough to Donald Trump.

Speaker 112 And we haven't couldn't have been clearer that we don't think this is a Donald Trump issue.

Speaker 22 It's not.

Speaker 112 It's important that I think we highlight those voices when they are out there. And again, you can read that at Glenn Becker at World of Stu on Twitter.

Speaker 73 Back in a second.

Speaker 133 Glenn back.

Speaker 18 Mercury.

Speaker 1 This is the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 44 I want to continue the conversation we were having before the break about

Speaker 14 courage.

Speaker 26 Have you noticed that courage is not rewarded anymore?

Speaker 74 Courage is courage to speak your mind.

Speaker 116 For instance, we just had Blake Houndshell on.

Speaker 116 He's the editor-in-chief of Politico.

Speaker 51 Now, here's a guy who has pressure for clicks,

Speaker 51 pressure.

Speaker 61 from his peers,

Speaker 10 pressure in this world that he lives in of

Speaker 56 groupthink, pressure in the world that he lives in of political power and posturing.

Speaker 56 And he says himself in the interview that he just did with us that

Speaker 102 he was concerned about saying, wait, I'm not sure there's anything to this Donald Trump collusion thing.

Speaker 70 Now here's the editor-in-chief of the Politico.

Speaker 43 You'd think he wouldn't be afraid of anything.

Speaker 27 But he was afraid.

Speaker 14 Why?

Speaker 46 Because we've let our ideologies

Speaker 134 become our religion.

Speaker 24 Our religions, our actual religion, our churches are even answering to the higher power, and that is politics.

Speaker 41 We are all becoming

Speaker 68 members of the church

Speaker 27 of the GOP or the DNC.

Speaker 92 And just like all churches, man, we fight against each other.

Speaker 54 If you are a part of that church, you're going to hell.

Speaker 58 You're part of the devil.

Speaker 13 I've come to a place to where I just don't believe any of that.

Speaker 82 I just don't believe it.

Speaker 53 And you know what?

Speaker 29 If God is, if that's God, then

Speaker 24 I don't want any part of him.

Speaker 10 If God is this guy who is like, yeah, there's a really good person who's really trying to really be great and he's following the faith that he finds honestly in his heart, and you're going to damn him to hell.

Speaker 61 I don't know what, I don't understand any of it then.

Speaker 90 I don't understand what I was supposed to learn from Jesus, if that's the truth.

Speaker 53 And I know that makes me a heretic.

Speaker 51 Good.

Speaker 45 I'm not saying it's true.

Speaker 85 It's where I am.

Speaker 105 I don't know what truth is anymore.

Speaker 118 Because truth...

Speaker 63 Truth is supposed to be verifiable.

Speaker 80 Everything else is faith.

Speaker 74 Truth is verifiable.

Speaker 19 And even truth can change when it comes to scientific truths.

Speaker 12 We take theories and we've made them into truth.

Speaker 81 I, you know,

Speaker 51 evolution?

Speaker 128 I don't think so, but I don't know.

Speaker 41 The Big Bang?

Speaker 69 Could be.

Speaker 46 But it's a theory.

Speaker 70 What happened before the Big Bang?

Speaker 71 What led the fuse?

Speaker 50 What's first cause?

Speaker 17 You don't know.

Speaker 15 We have to be able to have these conversations without damning each other.

Speaker 69 Jake Tapper.

Speaker 56 Boy, I wish he, I wish he would have done, I wish he would have said more at the town hall, but I don't know what he could have said at the town hall.

Speaker 49 The problem was the town hall itself, CNN should not have put 4,000 grieving, angry people into an auditorium to have a reasoned, rational debate.

Speaker 129 It was destined to be a bloodlust from the very beginning.

Speaker 46 Do I wish he would have said something?

Speaker 37 Yes, I do, but he didn't.

Speaker 54 Over the weekend, he did an unbelievable job of excoriating this sheriff when he had the facts and he asked simple questions.

Speaker 35 I pointed this out over the weekend and man, it's incredible.

Speaker 92 Jake Tapper can do nothing right.

Speaker 35 A guy who was a hero of journalism to so many on the right just a few years ago when he pushed the administration up against the wall?

Speaker 54 Is now the devil himself.

Speaker 76 Why?

Speaker 15 Because he's asking tough questions of the administration.

Speaker 37 Isn't that what we want?

Speaker 45 I don't want someone who is asking easy questions of either side.

Speaker 78 I want the truth.

Speaker 13 You know,

Speaker 21 The commanding voice

Speaker 46 The voice that speaks little

Speaker 13 But when it speaks

Speaker 14 It has compelling moral authority that's gone

Speaker 32 We don't have that anymore

Speaker 81 We have flattened every distinction out we don't want anything different We want uniformity.

Speaker 49 We want to all walk in lockstep.

Speaker 58 That's not who we are.

Speaker 51 Respect for

Speaker 34 the noble, for the great, for the brave, for the rare,

Speaker 65 for the man or woman that only appears every hundred or thousand years.

Speaker 67 That's gone.

Speaker 92 Respect is gone.

Speaker 46 Ask anybody, who do you really respect?

Speaker 79 The answer will literally be: nobody,

Speaker 87 nothing.

Speaker 85 This is our age, the age

Speaker 64 of unrespecting,

Speaker 81 the age of mediocrity.

Speaker 11 That's not who we are.

Speaker 56 If you want to be a leader today, man,

Speaker 80 even a mediocre leader going to pull you down from every side.

Speaker 109 You're going to be shot at from every side.

Speaker 52 You are constantly and in every way, from every side, being pulled down.

Speaker 41 And let me ask you:

Speaker 62 do you know anybody alive today that's going to be remembered in a hundred years or a thousand years?

Speaker 24 Do you know anybody?

Speaker 25 do you know have you have you seen anyone that is is living today

Speaker 13 that has the respect and the staying power of Plato or Aristotle

Speaker 13 or Paul Augustine Aquinas Lincoln

Speaker 77 Immanuel Kant Bonhoeffer

Speaker 48 Churchill

Speaker 14 King

Speaker 46 do you see them

Speaker 51 America,

Speaker 11 you're good.

Speaker 21 No matter where you're hearing my voice,

Speaker 6 you are good.

Speaker 40 Unfortunately, in today's world, it's not enough just to be good.

Speaker 7 good.

Speaker 89 You have to be good for something.

Speaker 107 What is it that you are contributing?

Speaker 27 What is it that you are

Speaker 52 that you're building?

Speaker 35 What good are you bringing to the world?

Speaker 46 Will it be said of you,

Speaker 14 the world

Speaker 27 was a better place because you were alive?

Speaker 55 You have to be good for something, and that good is something that you must spread to others.

Speaker 108 America is great because America was good, and we spread it to others, not out of arrogance like we have in the last hundred and twenty years,

Speaker 46 but because what we created was good.

Speaker 96 We're living in a world world of mediocrity.

Speaker 101 We are living in a world that is pushing,

Speaker 25 strangely, sameness and otherness.

Speaker 20 You are either with us or against us.

Speaker 21 You're either in lockstep on everything

Speaker 41 or nothing at all.

Speaker 7 Rise above it.

Speaker 29 Be better than that.

Speaker 7 Rise above mediocrity. Rise above indifference.

Speaker 6 Rise above the crowd.

Speaker 41 And when the whole crowd has turned their back on you,

Speaker 5 that's okay.

Speaker 63 At this time in history, the crowd is wrong.

Speaker 9 And if you ever see someone in that crowd turn, for just a second, they turn and they recognize common sense and they recognize common truths.

Speaker 94 Make sure you say to that person in the crowd, good for you, yes.

Speaker 70 Because if they begin to turn and you look at them and say, what good are you anyway?

Speaker 79 Where were you the rest of the time?

Speaker 25 They will never turn your way again.

Speaker 25 No matter if they spit on you, no matter if they hate you,

Speaker 23 it doesn't matter.

Speaker 85 The world has always hated those people.

Speaker 46 It's always hated the people who wouldn't go with the crowd.

Speaker 63 This is our greatest opportunity

Speaker 46 to really prove who we are and what we believe.

Speaker 51 Don't get tired.

Speaker 10 Become committed.

Speaker 82 Screw your courage to the sticking place

Speaker 9 and stand for something.

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Speaker 59 They'll always highlight them and say, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 54 Before you, have you seen this one?

Speaker 90 The right candidate is there.

Speaker 83 It's waiting for you.

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Speaker 62 Just go to ziprecruiter.com slash Beck.

Speaker 58 That's ziprecruiter.com slash Beck.

Speaker 51 So there is a story that I read that I just can't figure out.

Speaker 89 I don't know how this is bad.

Speaker 9 Donald Trump decorated the Oval Office with hand-me-downs from past presidents.

Speaker 22 He's in Respect the Office, Glenn.

Speaker 85 Oh, hey. No, I can't believe that.

Speaker 46 This is one of the greatest stories. This makes me go, yeah.

Speaker 29 Because I would not expect this from Donald Trump.

Speaker 79 This is a great Donald Trump story.

Speaker 43 This is a great Donald Trump story.

Speaker 52 If you look at the photos of the White House over the years, you'll find that Trump has just borrowed a number of design elements from his predecessors.

Speaker 10 Dwight Eisenhower and Jimmy Carter both skipped redecorating that follows a new president's ascension to the White House.

Speaker 64 Even Ronald Reagan didn't break out his interior design until his second term.

Speaker 92 Still, most modern presidents have redesigned the space to fit their own taste.

Speaker 35 I thought the whole thing would be dipped in gold by now.

Speaker 85 Okay. That's what everyone said it was going to happen.

Speaker 112 He's going to put his name on the front of it.

Speaker 96 So remember when George Bush said the first question you get once you are elected president is you get a call from the White House and they say, what do you want your rug to look like?

Speaker 78 Okay, I think Donald Trump's

Speaker 53 answer was, I don't know, is there an old one laying around?

Speaker 50 He's using Ronald Reagan's rug, George Bush's couches in this story, Barack Obama's desk.

Speaker 23 That's

Speaker 22 you'd have to go into that one.

Speaker 34 Yeah, the Abraham Lincoln bust that was last displayed by Barack Obama, Gerald Ford's large case, you know, grandfather clock, a portrait of Jefferson hung by Lyndon Johnson in Bill Clinton's drapes.

Speaker 41 Amen. Good.

Speaker 39 He didn't spend anything.

Speaker 80 What do you have?

Speaker 48 I love this.

Speaker 112 They have cleaned those drapes, right?

Speaker 40 I don't know if they could get everything out of the rug, but they did clean the drapes.

Speaker 108 Here's another story that I would

Speaker 114 be interesting to see the media cover.

Speaker 27 North Korea's cheerleaders

Speaker 80 that became the media darlings at the Winter Olympics.

Speaker 84 Yeah, it was a great story.

Speaker 112 They really were passionate about the North Korean team.

Speaker 85 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 50 New report out at Bloomberg.

Speaker 58 Apparently, they're also sex slaves for the dictatorship.

Speaker 80 They have to attend daily parties

Speaker 92 to promote propaganda and they must provide sexual services.

Speaker 52 to the party leadership, whether they want to or not.

Speaker 118 Might seem like a fancy show on the outside.

Speaker 58 However, they have to go to parties and provide sexual services, and that kind of pain follows.

Speaker 52 Oh, I wonder if anybody from the press would like to take it back that they were so funny and so

Speaker 37 cheery.

Speaker 112 Maybe they were very happy because that was a moment where they weren't doing that.

Speaker 112 Clapping for a team is a lot better

Speaker 22 than what they had to do at home.

Speaker 105 And there's one more,

Speaker 134 there's one more story out.

Speaker 98 You remember the cat lady from New York?

Speaker 24 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 62 She's come out in a new press story and said, I've never had any plastic surgery at all.

Speaker 73 This is all natural.

Speaker 22 She made me the cat.

Speaker 85 I don't know. Glenn back.

Speaker 18 Mercury.

Speaker 18 Love. Courage.

Speaker 1 Truth.

Speaker 98 Abraham Lincoln said, I am a firm believer in the people.

Speaker 101 If given the truth, they can be dependent upon to meet any national crisis.

Speaker 35 But the great point is to bring them the real facts.

Speaker 48 So we're going to do that this half hour.

Speaker 113 Let's start here with the facts about the hashtag never again movement and the upcoming March for Our Lives rally that is planned for March 24th in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 56 For over a week now, CNN and the the rest of the media portrayed this movement as grassroots and totally teen-driven.

Speaker 53 And maybe it was at the very beginning, but it's not anymore.

Speaker 82 Just a few days after the horrible tragedy at Stoneman Douglas High School, a junior, Cameron Caskey, set up a GoFundMe account to raise money for the March for Our Lives.

Speaker 122 Caskey is the teenager who confronted Senator Rubio on stage at CNN's monster truck rally event last Wednesday night.

Speaker 92 And so far, 32,000 people have donated $2.5 million to go to the GoFundMe account.

Speaker 76 2.5.

Speaker 85 So you know that is more money than we raised by far for restoring honor on the National Mall.

Speaker 92 So what is this money going for?

Speaker 56 Well, on the GoFundMe page, Casky says the funds will be spent on the incredibly difficult and expensive process that is organizing an event like this.

Speaker 31 How does she know how much it costs?

Speaker 56 We have people making more specific plans, but for now, know that this is the march, and for everything left over is going to be going to victims' funds.

Speaker 43 The March for Our Lives has now received an additional $3.5 million in pledges from George Clooney, Oprah Winfrey, Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Gucci,

Speaker 82 and Eli Broad.

Speaker 74 Cameron Kaski's father said that Cameron and friends are being directed by people with knowledge of how to responsibly spend this money, and it's going to be very transparent.

Speaker 14 End quote.

Speaker 54 Well, I hope it's better than George Clooney's September 11th fund.

Speaker 74 Caskey's dad also said that with Clooney's help, the teens have been able to bring some attorneys in, some administrative help, and public relations firm whose clients include Meryl Streep, Will Smith, Charlize Therone, Woody Allen.

Speaker 80 Hmm, keep him away from the teenagers.

Speaker 35 So why do you need all of this if it's such a grassroots thing driven by teenagers?

Speaker 74 Because these are now 16-year-olds with over $6 million at their disposal. Already, the March for Our Lives rally has a slick website selling merchandise.

Speaker 39 This is a political campaign, make no mistake.

Speaker 84 The new spokesperson for the rally said, yes.

Speaker 35 Yes, any leftover funds going towards supporting a continuing long-term effort by and for young people to end the epidemic of mass shootings that has turned our classrooms into crime scenes.

Speaker 40 In other words, March for Our Lives is essentially a new gun control lobbying firm started by 16-year-old kids, but not run by 16-year-old kids.

Speaker 60 And by the way, my question would have been, you have an official spokesperson now?

Speaker 56 The teens have brought in Dina Katz to help organize the rally.

Speaker 89 Katz is the co-ex-executive producer of Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 105 Oh, and she was the co-executive director of the Los Angeles Women's March.

Speaker 6 No big deal.

Speaker 81 The rally is also being organized in collaboration with a nonprofit group called Every Town for Gun Safety.

Speaker 35 The advisory board of this group includes one former governor and six former mayors, all Democrats.

Speaker 89 It also includes Michael Michael Bloomberg, Warren Buffett, and Kenneth Lehre, who helped start the Huffington Post BuzzFeed, oh, and the website stoptheNRA.com.

Speaker 130 Caskey said the march in D.C.

Speaker 43 will include a protest outside of the White House where they will destroy AR-15 rifles.

Speaker 59 He told CBS, at the end of the day, this isn't a red and blue thing.

Speaker 56 This isn't Democrats or Republicans.

Speaker 98 This is about everybody and how we're begging for for our lives.

Speaker 56 Now, perhaps Caskey truly feels that way, but it's a crash course in how American politics and media work.

Speaker 74 This may have started as a teen cause, but it has been hijacked by very powerful forces on the left, and they have a very specific agenda.

Speaker 1 It's Monday, February 26th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 6 Imagine, if this this was on the other side, what the press would be saying about the funding if just one, just one of the Koch brothers would have written a check for $100,000.

Speaker 119 Imagine what the media would be saying.

Speaker 104 We want to stick to the facts, fix reason firmly in her seat, and question with boldness even the very existence of God.

Speaker 61 For if there be a God, he must surely rather honest questions over blindfolded fear.

Speaker 56 That was Thomas Jefferson, and that is the spirit of the Enlightenment.

Speaker 117 That was the spirit of America, but we have lost that.

Speaker 56 Now everybody's just trying to win.

Speaker 94 Well, let's stop trying to win and let's actually start to figure out what is happening.

Speaker 59 There's something deep inside of our children that has changed.

Speaker 56 ARs have been available since Vietnam.

Speaker 5 Kids weren't shooting each other.

Speaker 67 What's happened to us?

Speaker 41 And let's get the facts on guns and the actual facts on what the proposals actually mean.

Speaker 27 Will they help our children be safer?

Speaker 29 We go to John Lott.

Speaker 3 He has written an article.

Speaker 40 He's also a co-author of my book, Control.

Speaker 16 He is the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center and probably the best mind on the stats around guns and gun control.

Speaker 40 Welcome to the program, John. How are you?

Speaker 123 Doing okay, Glenn.

Speaker 8 Good to talk to you again.

Speaker 95 So, John, let me just go through your article piece by piece because facts are important.

Speaker 40 The new hot number from the gun control advocates is that there have been 18 school shootings so far this year.

Speaker 111 Can you tell me about the 18 that have happened since the beginning of the year?

Speaker 123 Right. Well, I mean, it includes gunshots fired on campus as well as those off of campus.

Speaker 123 Includes things like a police officer who accidentally discharged his gun and nobody was harmed.

Speaker 123 It includes suicides that may have occurred by an adult in the car parking lot that had nothing to do with the school, somebody just driving by, pulling into the parking lot and killing themselves.

Speaker 123 It includes a case where a pellet gun broke a window in a school bus that was parked

Speaker 123 not even on actual school property, but in a parking lot for buses.

Speaker 123 Nobody was inside the bus at the time when the pellet gun broke the window.

Speaker 123 Things that range from

Speaker 123 annoying to

Speaker 123 minor cases to things that don't have anything to do with guns on campus.

Speaker 123 And

Speaker 123 you have

Speaker 123 two of them that are kind of what would be these mass public shootings that get everybody's attention, where you had people killed

Speaker 123 and multiple people harmed. One was in Kentucky, and the other one was obviously in Florida.

Speaker 31 So,

Speaker 106 what everybody is saying they're looking for is an end to these.

Speaker 92 And they're making all kinds of proposals, so let's take them one by one.

Speaker 76 First, more background checks.

Speaker 123 Right. Before we get through the whole list, I just want to say something.
That is, I'm incredibly frustrated by this debate. I've been involved in this debate for 20 years.

Speaker 123 I had a piece in the Wall Street Journal back in 1998, in March 98,

Speaker 123 calling for getting rid of gun-free zones at schools, pointing out that we hadn't really had any of these attacks at schools until after 1995 when the so-called gun-free school zone act was passed federally.

Speaker 123 And,

Speaker 132 you know,

Speaker 123 I want to do something.

Speaker 123 I don't want these things to ever occur again, but I want something that actually matters.

Speaker 123 The types of rules that you are asking me to go through right now, the one thing that they share in common is that they wouldn't have stopped these attacks.

Speaker 123 And yet they're the ones that people keep on pushing for even before we know

Speaker 123 what the facts were for a case. Right.

Speaker 117 I mean, we look at what happened with the sheriff, and

Speaker 13 all of the things that should have been done, could have been done, would have been done in other places.

Speaker 80 We had multiple opportunities to stop this shooter, even while he was shooting, and we didn't do them.

Speaker 123 Right. Well, I mean,

Speaker 123 it's

Speaker 123 cowardice and other things.

Speaker 123 You can have training.

Speaker 123 It's not clear that the sheriff's deputies had proper training in these cases. And,

Speaker 123 you know,

Speaker 123 but even beyond that, I want to replace these signs that we have at schools that say these schools are a gun-free zone with signs that you can see in places from Texas to Oklahoma to Ohio and other places that say warning selective staff or teachers at these schools

Speaker 123 have weapons to be able to go and defend themselves and others. You know, we have 25 states in the United States that, to varying degrees now, allow

Speaker 123 people to be able to carry permanent concealed handguns on the school grounds. You know, staff or teachers.
Some are much more liberal in terms of allowing it than others.

Speaker 123 But in all those places that allow it, there's not one example of a school shooting occurring.

Speaker 123 There's no, you know, the fears that people have if you listen to the discussion last week from people like

Speaker 123 Senator Rubio to the listening session that President Trump had, where people were saying, well, you know, teachers are emotional, was one of the arguments that were brought up against Trump.

Speaker 123 Well, you know,

Speaker 123 you don't see any problems that occur.

Speaker 123 I know of one accidental discharge that occurred outside of school hours,

Speaker 123 and that's it. You know,

Speaker 123 And that's over years, decades. And so

Speaker 123 the discussion is often, well, let's put a police officer in a place.

Speaker 123 The problem is, putting somebody in uniform is,

Speaker 123 it may make you feel good, but it's an impossible job. Anybody who's read any of my books knows that I think police are extremely important in stopping crime.

Speaker 123 I think police are the single most important factor. But

Speaker 123 if you put an officer in uniform to try to guard against these types of attacks, it's an impossible job.

Speaker 123 Putting somebody in uniform is like putting somebody there who has a neon sign above them that says, shoot me first.

Speaker 123 Because if he's the only person that has a weapon, these killers know that if they kill the police officer first, then they have nothing more to worry about.

Speaker 123 Then they're going to be free for some period of time until others are able to arrive on the scene to go and kill people.

Speaker 23 So, John.

Speaker 85 Why do they take them out first?

Speaker 126 This is something that we clearly know as a society.

Speaker 122 It's why we protect the identity of air marshals.

Speaker 134 It's why we don't put an armed police officer in uniform on airplanes.

Speaker 61 We let them mix in so the bad guy never knows who the good guy is.

Speaker 77 We don't want to shoot out.

Speaker 70 Well, you certainly don't have a problem with a shootout in an airplane.

Speaker 94 And by the way, pilots, are they emotional?

Speaker 126 Because all the pilots had to be trained to use a weapon just in case the air marshal goes down.

Speaker 37 We didn't have a problem with that either.

Speaker 46 This is a bogus debate.

Speaker 35 Let me go through before we run out of time.

Speaker 98 Let me go through the things.

Speaker 81 For instance, more background checks.

Speaker 10 Tell me about why that won't work.

Speaker 123 Well, the one go-to law from Obama through now and other times has been these background checks on private private transfers.

Speaker 123 The deal is,

Speaker 123 not only wouldn't it have been relevant for this attack in Florida, and people were calling for this like in an hour and a half after the attack, even before they knew how the killer had gotten his gun,

Speaker 123 there's not one mass public shooting this century or years before that would have been stopped if this law had been in effect.

Speaker 123 There's simply no cases where people have gotten the gun in this way that would have been stopped by the background check, even if it had been effective.

Speaker 123 One of these silly things that they push for,

Speaker 123 and

Speaker 123 my own belief is the reason why they push for it is they just want to make it costly for law-abiding citizens to get guns. They know, they've been asked a couple times by the media

Speaker 123 to identify one case where this has mattered. And the response that you get from them is, well, we still need to try to do something.
You know, maybe it might stop something in the future.

Speaker 123 And they can't point to one case in the past where it would have helped.

Speaker 126 How about the new assault weapon ban?

Speaker 53 Let's just ban these assault weapons, John.

Speaker 56 Let's just, I mean, nobody needs an assault weapon.

Speaker 70 Would this have helped?

Speaker 123 No, it wouldn't have. I mean, first of all, I'm not even sure.
I hope that people are just ignorant and don't know what the guns are and how they operate. But to,

Speaker 123 you know, the AR-15s are a semi-automatic rifle, small caliber semi-automatic rifle. They fire the same bullets with the same rapidity, doing the same damage as a small caliber hunting rifle.

Speaker 123 If you want to go and ban all semi-automatic guns, fine, let's talk about that.

Speaker 123 But to go and buy, I don't think it makes sense, and I can talk about it, but to try to go and buy some guns based on how they look just simply doesn't make any sense. Correct.

Speaker 81 Well, but you wouldn't have to ban the semi-automatic handguns because a semi-automatic handgun, I learned from NBC News, it just doesn't travel as fast as a rifle.

Speaker 108 And so a rifle will just kill the person with a handgun

Speaker 59 much quicker.

Speaker 123 Well, if you look over the last decade, about 68% of the mass public shootings have involved solely handguns. If you include handguns

Speaker 123 used in part of the attack, you know, handguns with rifles, handguns with shotguns,

Speaker 123 It makes up about 84% of the attacks involved handguns in some way.

Speaker 123 And so, you know, all they're going to do is they'll ban, you know, maybe they could ban all rifles, and then they'll come back and they'll say, well, we need to ban all handguns. You know,

Speaker 123 what people need to talk about are the costs and benefits of guns. So when they go and they say, let's ban guns for people under age 21, well, it's horrible that this 19-year-old killed people.

Speaker 123 And we should do things to try to stop it, things that we know will work. But the thing is, lots of law-abiding 20-year-olds use guns to protect themselves and their families.

Speaker 123 And the problem that you ultimately face is that if you were going to say, ban guns from a particular area or ban guns for particular people, it's the law-abiding good citizens who obey those rules and not the criminals.

Speaker 123 It's the reason why we've been having these attacks after we've created these gun-free zones.

Speaker 9 John Lott from the Crime Prevention Research Center, his latest book is The War on Guns, Arming Yourself Against Gun Control Lies.

Speaker 26 He is the best on the stats.

Speaker 82 You need to have that book in your library.

Speaker 10 Thanks, John.

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Speaker 18 Glenn Beck Mercury

Speaker 59 Okay, there's a story that I had a really hard time understanding, and it's probably because I'm not a sports fan.

Speaker 62 Yeah.

Speaker 112 Yeah. You're not big into sports.

Speaker 112 You probably don't recognize how difficult this is. Yeah.

Speaker 112 But I mean, it's a really, really big deal. Mac Beggs

Speaker 112 won

Speaker 112 second straight.

Speaker 51 Second straight.

Speaker 112 Class 6A Texas championship in girls' wrestling.

Speaker 112 She went 32-0

Speaker 112 during the season. Wait.
And I mean, what a Mac, yeah.

Speaker 112 Mac Beggs, yeah.

Speaker 41 So wait, Mac.

Speaker 112 Incredible achieving. Now, to win one championship at this level is very difficult, but to go undefeated 32-0 and win a second straight 6A championship in Texas.

Speaker 23 Right.

Speaker 23 That's incredible.

Speaker 112 And people are not acknowledging how difficult that would be to achieve.

Speaker 14 Well, if you, and it might be just because people don't follow

Speaker 39 him a him and you called him a her.

Speaker 85 What was that?

Speaker 39 You called him a him and a her.

Speaker 31 Why did you?

Speaker 9 But this is a part that I had a hard time following. Is

Speaker 38 he wrestling girls?

Speaker 23 Or

Speaker 96 is she wrestling girls?

Speaker 34 Yes.

Speaker 112 That's your answer. Yes.

Speaker 34 More in a minute.

Speaker 18 Mercury.

Speaker 23 This is the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 121 Are you really not taking any responsibility for the multiple red flags that were brought to the attention of the Broward Sheriff's Office about this shooter before the incident?

Speaker 121 Whether it was people near him, close to him, calling the police.

Speaker 97 Jake, I could only take responsibility for what I knew about. I exercises my due diligence.
I've given amazing leadership to this agency. Amazing leadership.

Speaker 85 I work.

Speaker 97 Yes, Jake,

Speaker 97 there's a lot of things we've done throughout.

Speaker 97 You don't measure

Speaker 97 a person's leadership by a deputy not going into a, these deputies receive the training they needed.

Speaker 121 Maybe you measure somebody's leadership by whether or not they protect the community.

Speaker 121 In this case, you've listed 23 incidents before the shooting involving the shooter, and still nothing was done to keep guns out of his hands, to make sure that the school was protected, to make sure you were keeping an eye on him.

Speaker 121 Your deputy atrophy failed. I don't understand how you can sit there and claim amazing leadership.

Speaker 72 Jake Tapper.

Speaker 51 Pat Gray, thoughts.

Speaker 73 I love Jake Tapper, and we've said it many times.

Speaker 125 Sometimes he'll be agonizing to us,

Speaker 125 and then other times he'll be agonizing to the left.

Speaker 22 He treats everybody, he's an actual journalist.

Speaker 73 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 81 He actually asks hard questions.

Speaker 106 I think he could have, I think he was put in an impossible situation at the town hall.

Speaker 40 He was.

Speaker 89 But that's not his fault.

Speaker 40 That's CNN's fault.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 70 he held the sheriff's feet to the fire.

Speaker 10 non-stop for about what 20 minutes

Speaker 22 28 minutes

Speaker 58 can you imagine that the poor sheriff i mean poor sheriff i don't mean it that way the sheriff his mouth was so dry he was starting to look like anita dunn

Speaker 85 with the lizard tongue with the lizard tongue he was his mouth was dry he knew he was in trouble i was surprised he didn't say is there a commercial break you have to go to or anything he he did shut Jake down though on

Speaker 125 one question yeah when he was asked and I think we have the audio when he was asked about whether or not if they would have followed up on any of this stuff could this have been averted and he was pretty powerful.

Speaker 34 Here we go. Play it.

Speaker 121 Do you think that if the Broward Sheriff's Office had done things differently, this shooting might not have happened?

Speaker 97 Listen, if ifs and butts were candy and nuts, you know, O.J. Simpson would still be in the record books.
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 85 There's 17 dead people, and there's a whole long list of things your department. Wow.
Oh, my gosh, Jake, you are just so good.

Speaker 73 Wow, that's great.

Speaker 125 If ifs and butts were candy and nuts, nuts, O.J.

Speaker 103 Simpson would first, O.J.

Speaker 125 Simpson is still in the record books.

Speaker 85 Yes, he is. 100%.

Speaker 112 Now, six people have outrushed him in a season, so he's moved down.

Speaker 85 He moved down a little bit. Maybe that's what he had.

Speaker 79 But that wasn't due to ifs and buts, was it?

Speaker 85 No,

Speaker 112 more of the 15th and 16th game of the season, which they added on after he had the 2,000-yard season. Probably the specifics there.
Yeah, well, Sheriff, you asked for it. You got it.
Toyota.

Speaker 85 What do you think of that?

Speaker 125 Let me try this on you.

Speaker 112 Don't forget, hire the vet.

Speaker 85 Okay? That's amazing.

Speaker 124 That's all I've got to say to you.

Speaker 85 I have to tell you, I love Slogan Wars.

Speaker 85 Is there clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose?

Speaker 72 All right, Sheriff,

Speaker 85 deal with that, won't you?

Speaker 93 Four out of five dentists recommend crest

Speaker 85 or

Speaker 85 Trident. One of them.
I don't know. Something.

Speaker 93 They agree. Four out of five agree on something.

Speaker 125 And we know that one of them wants you to eat more sugared snacks.

Speaker 85 We know that.

Speaker 85 Why do that?

Speaker 85 No, what the dentist is in that poll.

Speaker 54 I don't think there was a better shutdown than that.

Speaker 26 Because

Speaker 80 it wasn't for effect.

Speaker 51 It was true.

Speaker 54 It was righteous indignation.

Speaker 91 I don't even know what that means.

Speaker 98 And there are 18 dead people.

Speaker 10 Right. Oh, that was.

Speaker 85 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 34 That was really rough.

Speaker 112 I mean, you know, and look, I don't think,

Speaker 112 I think there's very little desire. And Jake Tapper's an exception, I think, to this, but there's very little desire to actual real conversation on this topic.

Speaker 112 You were on CNN this weekend, and you kind of talked about that. You were on with Brian Stelter.

Speaker 112 We have a clip of it here talking about

Speaker 96 do myself any favors.

Speaker 112 No, I don't think CNN really liked you that much, After this.

Speaker 98 They didn't like me in the first place.

Speaker 10 I mean, with anybody. I don't think I made anybody happy.

Speaker 36 That's kind of your

Speaker 23 story, isn't it?

Speaker 85 It is. It's kind of your life story.

Speaker 112 Here it is from CNN.

Speaker 135 We can't read only the things that we agree with. We have to have conversations, calm conversations that make us uncomfortable.

Speaker 88 We have to have that.

Speaker 97 You've talked on your programs in the past about

Speaker 73 one thing, too.

Speaker 135 And this is something that you're not going to want to hear.

Speaker 135 CNN

Speaker 135 had a right and a responsibility to have that conversation, that town hall.

Speaker 135 But when you added a room full, when you added, what, 2,000, 2,000, 5,000 people that were grieving and angry, you did nothing.

Speaker 80 You made things worse.

Speaker 135 If you wanted to have that conversation, then let's have that conversation

Speaker 135 in a calm way. But adding it, adding the crowd, it became the Christians and the lions.

Speaker 46 It was discussed.

Speaker 97 So you would have told the students to shut. You would have told them to shut up?

Speaker 53 Listen to that. No,

Speaker 135 I would have said, this is too raw right now to have a stadium full of people.

Speaker 135 Let's just, you pick the people, you have the kids that want to talk, and let's have that conversation in a small room without the cheering crowds.

Speaker 125 It's why I won't go on Bill Maher.

Speaker 135 Bill Maher has asked me for years to go on his program. I won't because it is just the cheering crowd.
Somebody's trying to win. Martin Luther King would not have done that.

Speaker 135 Martin Luther King would have had the the discussion without the cheering crowds. Don't try to win.
Look for reconciliation.

Speaker 125 That's great.

Speaker 125 And you're right.

Speaker 40 That's the only way.

Speaker 125 People ask all the time, especially lately. I think there's a good number of people who really want to try to come together and figure this out and not scream at each other.

Speaker 69 It just feels

Speaker 85 different in a couple of ways.

Speaker 125 Yeah. And that's the answer.
But we're not going to get to it if we're continually screaming at each other.

Speaker 117 I'd love to have this conversation with you, Pat, but I think that we have,

Speaker 94 I think we've come to the end of the period of enlightenment.

Speaker 28 Everything that this country was based on was the honest search for truth, empirical truth.

Speaker 9 You know what I mean?

Speaker 69 I'm not going to listen to a church tell me that they have all this power, that they can do these things because God gives them the power, and so I must fall in line.

Speaker 54 I'm not not going to listen to a king tell me he's got all this power because of God.

Speaker 128 I'm not going to listen to magicians.

Speaker 31 I want empirical fact.

Speaker 37 Now, if you want to go on faith, that's fine, but keep your faith out of the control of the government.

Speaker 94 The government

Speaker 38 and faith should not mix when it says

Speaker 95 when it comes down to control of people's lives.

Speaker 69 And we looked for the truth and let the chips fall where they may.

Speaker 37 We don't look for that anymore.

Speaker 51 We're not looking.

Speaker 22 We're not interested.

Speaker 125 No, you're looking for the win.

Speaker 40 It's exactly right.

Speaker 128 I am sick of winning.

Speaker 86 If this is what winning feels like, I am sick of winning.

Speaker 37 And we've been playing it now for over 20 years, and I'm sick of it.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 112 And no one wants to have honest conversations. I mean, you know, this is a problem.

Speaker 112 I bring the, let me give you these two audio clips. These are specifically

Speaker 112 selected for Pat Gray's enjoyment.

Speaker 112 Because these two moments back to back in the same interview tells a heck of a story of where we've been over the last week.

Speaker 112 Here's David Hogg, one of the students who's been on every show imaginable, also was on the same show as you were on this week on CNN with Brian Stelter, talking about Dana Lash and the NRA.

Speaker 136 What Dana's trying to do, I believe she's the CEO of the NRA, she's trying to distract people.

Speaker 85 If you listen to her talk, she's a national spokeswoman for the NRA.

Speaker 136 Exactly. She's a national spokeswoman, and as such, she's a national propagandist propagandist for the NRA.
If you listen to her speak,

Speaker 136 she's not really saying anything. She's sounding positive and confident, and that's what she wants the people in the NRA to believe.

Speaker 136 She wants people in Congress to pass laws that help out with mental health and things like that, and she says that she can't do that. Are you kidding me? You own these politicians.

Speaker 136 You've passed legislation that enables these bum stocks, which, by the way, aren't allowed at NRA shooting ranges because they're too dangerous. That's how bad they are.

Speaker 136 Continuing on with my point, she wants Congress to take action and says that they won't. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 88 She owns these Congressmen.

Speaker 136 She can get them to do things because she doesn't care about these children's lives.

Speaker 101 Okay, so he didn't even know who she was.

Speaker 5 Right, but she,

Speaker 125 but he does know that she owns Congress.

Speaker 112 He does she doesn't care about children's lives, which is odd because she has children.

Speaker 22 Yeah, she doesn't care about children's lives.

Speaker 85 That's interesting. Right.

Speaker 126 It's interesting.

Speaker 54 And she's, she's, she owns people, even though she just started with the NRA.

Speaker 40 Yeah,

Speaker 85 weird.

Speaker 37 She was working with us.

Speaker 78 I didn't know she had all of those politicians in the pocket.

Speaker 112 Yeah, she should have passed stuff for us.

Speaker 85 I mean, what the hell is happening? Wouldn't that have been been nice? It would have been really good on more cable channels, probably, right?

Speaker 23 Damn it.

Speaker 112 Okay, so, but again, here's a guy kid who's put out there as an expert by every media source.

Speaker 112 Here's the guy, he's got all the passion. He's the guy.
We got to take him seriously. We have to respect all of his views.

Speaker 112 We can't say one word of criticism of what he says because that means you just don't care about children. You don't care about the victims of this.

Speaker 112 Later on, he's asked not about the NRA, but about the mass disaster that has been Broward County Sheriff

Speaker 22 Scott.

Speaker 136 Israel I can't only think of sheriff Israel and so he he's asked about that here's what he says are you concerned that you might actually lose support if you get too personal too incendiary well she's already done that by attacking Sheriff Scott Israel who obviously there were some major mistakes made here and ones that we have to look into

Speaker 136 and I don't want to say anything until after the investigation is done because I don't know what happened I'm just a student that had to witness this horrifying incident huh but honestly how can you say that you support law enforcement if you're just constantly attacking them over this?

Speaker 136 How hypocritical and disgusting are you? These are the people that are trying to protect our lives. Do they make a mistake?

Speaker 88 Absolutely.

Speaker 136 Is that something that we have to fix? Absolutely. But there's a much bigger problem in Washington.

Speaker 112 Okay, so he's so when it's about the NRA, he knows everything about them. He knows that Dana's the CEO and owns all of these politicians, despite her just starting this position pretty recently.

Speaker 112 But when it comes to the police, wait for the investigation to do.

Speaker 23 He's just a student.

Speaker 85 What How do I know?

Speaker 112 What is he just a student? You can't ask him those questions. He's just a kid.

Speaker 125 That was kind of my point from the beginning.

Speaker 22 That's why I specifically said that.

Speaker 43 Here's what I can't, again, get my arms around.

Speaker 54 So what did I say to Brian?

Speaker 40 I said to Brian, you know, to have these emotional crowds was not a good thing.

Speaker 81 You want to have them on?

Speaker 87 Great. Let them talk.

Speaker 28 And his response was, So

Speaker 99 you think Jake should have just said, shut up?

Speaker 51 No, that's not what I said.

Speaker 22 No, it's not what you said. I didn't say that.

Speaker 102 And that's really disrespectful.

Speaker 6 You weren't talking about the kids, in fact.

Speaker 79 You were talking about the audience.

Speaker 85 Yeah, the crowd.

Speaker 51 Yeah.

Speaker 112 I don't know what Jake is supposed to do once the crowd's in the room.

Speaker 112 The problematic decision is the crowd being there.

Speaker 67 And not

Speaker 94 CNN's decision up front.

Speaker 112 Not the representation of these families. Like, if you had the, you could have been in there in a room like Trump did.
He did a listening session with people who

Speaker 112 were victims of the shooting.

Speaker 125 And there wasn't screaming over the top of each other either.

Speaker 112 Because it was calm. It was calm discourse.
You put in 5,000 people, all of which

Speaker 112 are to just yell at Dana in her position at the NRA. It's a recipe for disaster, and they should have recognized that.

Speaker 54 Okay.

Speaker 8 So, so

Speaker 37 he doesn't, he won't listen to that.

Speaker 27 And wants, you know, if you, if you say we shouldn't have had the arena,

Speaker 56 then that's akin to saying we have to tell these kids to shut up.

Speaker 20 We have to take these kids, they have a right

Speaker 89 to be listened to.

Speaker 33 They don't have a right to be listened to unchecked.

Speaker 37 You had Brian

Speaker 109 Seltzer.

Speaker 47 Stelter.

Speaker 44 I can never say his name because I always think of Brian Setzer.

Speaker 81 Oh, the orchestra.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 59 So you have Brian sitting there.

Speaker 63 And who's sitting next to the other on the other side of this kid?

Speaker 49 Dan frickin' rather.

Speaker 8 And you hear this kid

Speaker 101 make this argument that Dana is, you know, the NRA, which is a little ridiculous,

Speaker 54 more than a little ridiculous.

Speaker 25 And then you have him stick up for this sheriff, who nobody in their right mind is sticking up for the sheriff.

Speaker 61 No one in their right mind is sticking up for the sheriff.

Speaker 57 And there's no discussion at all on

Speaker 88 there's no pushback on him

Speaker 13 on saying,

Speaker 63 how does this make sense?

Speaker 58 I thought you wanted this to stop.

Speaker 12 And what makes you think that passing a ban on some guns is going to make any of this stop?

Speaker 13 There's no evidence of that.

Speaker 77 And here's some things that we could take care of right now, because there could be another shooting in your county if this is happening with the Sheriff's Department.

Speaker 63 There's no pushback at all.

Speaker 22 No. Yeah.

Speaker 112 Well, and I think the reason why the advocacy groups and a lot of the media really like these kids that are, you know, were victims of this, or at least at the school when this occurred, is because of that.

Speaker 112 You can't push back. You can't push back on the argument.
So the arguments get smooth sailing.

Speaker 112 They get this nice, clear, empty highway to just drive down and say every liberal blog statement that's ever been put out there without anybody saying anything. Because obviously you can't push back.

Speaker 112 The kid obviously doesn't know these points.

Speaker 127 He's just

Speaker 112 obviously reading blogs and just spouting out.

Speaker 85 He's being exploited.

Speaker 73 He's being exploited by the left.

Speaker 101 He's being a 16-year-old that is being given a national platform.

Speaker 85 That's what's happening.

Speaker 112 It's definitely not a word of criticism to him personally, but you have to be able to push back on the points, or there's no point in having him on.

Speaker 90 May I remind you, though, only you can prevent forest fires.

Speaker 73 Waffle.

Speaker 85 Thank you, Pat.

Speaker 130 Do you remember the Equifax data breach?

Speaker 99 It exposed Social Security numbers, names, and birth dates over 145 million customers.

Speaker 105 Apparently, it was more sensitive

Speaker 54 than we thought.

Speaker 37 It was was worse than we thought.

Speaker 13 Much more was exposed.

Speaker 90 Documents provided now to Senate committee reveal that tax IDs and driver's license details were also accessed.

Speaker 111 This has exposed the information that can be used by cyber criminals long after the breach.

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Speaker 61 I'm going to do the media's job for him.

Speaker 13 Tonight at 5 o'clock, we are going to be looking at the questions that really need answering on

Speaker 34 this Florida shooting.

Speaker 106 And in particular, this sheriff.

Speaker 35 There's something really wrong there.

Speaker 112 Yeah, taking it from the big picture and the small picture today. What are some of these weird inconsistencies in the stories around the shooting?

Speaker 112 We'll get into those tonight at 5:30 on the Blaze Trump, 5 at the Blaze TV, and then 5:30, the news and why it matters.

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