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Glenn Beck all the Democrats want for Christmas is impeachment doesn't really work that way, does it?

But that's really all they want for Christmas is impeachment.

Their best hope for seeing President Trump removed from office is a special counsel

into the collusion investigation.

Now they're terrified that Trump might fire Mueller while the investigation is still underway.

Last week the Department of Justice provided Congress with a large batch of text messages from former members of the special counsel's team.

Many of the text messages were hostile towards Trump.

Several Republican congressmen are criticizing the integrity now of the special counsel, adding fuel to Trump's claim that the investigation is nothing more than a witch hunt.

As if things aren't dicey enough already, over the weekend, a lawyer for Trump's transition team suggested Mueller inappropriately gained access to thousands of transition team emails from government servers.

Legal analysts say Mueller didn't break any rules, but the debate is giving Republican critics more reason to cry foul.

So now Democrats say the right is trying to shut down the whole investigation.

Democrats have never been so concerned about the rule of law until now.

Yesterday, the former Attorney General Eric Holder weighed in.

Oh, what is he say?

Because he is, well, he knows the law.

It's so important and helpful when a former attorney general weighs in.

He tweeted that firing Mueller was an absolute red line, all in caps.

Holder also spoke on behalf of the vast majority of American people in warning Republicans that any attempt to remove Mueller will not be tolerated.

Don't you love it the way progressives always speak on behalf of the vast majority of people, even though they usually don't represent the vast majority of people?

Meanwhile, President Trump told reporters Sunday night he is not going to fire Mueller.

Democrats just want to get to the truth of the investigation.

And that's true, as long as the truth leads to the outcome that they desire, which is Trump's impeachment.

Democrats want this so desperately to be Watergate, which is saying something, because they worship Watergate like it was a sacred holiday.

Why?

Well, because it was a golden era for them.

Three months after Nixon resigned from office, Democrats gained 53 seats in Congress in the 1974 midterm election.

Republicans wouldn't gain control of both houses again for 20 years.

Boy, Republicans and Democrats should learn something from this.

The 1974 midterm marked the most magical liberal transformation of Congress in history.

And that is why they worship Watergate.

And it's the same reason that the biggest wish on their Christmas list this year is an airtight indictment of Trump from the special counsel.

It's Monday, December 18th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Unfortunately for the left, when Christmas comes, you have to behave well to get what you want for Christmas.

Yes, and they have not behaved well.

They have a lump of coal in their stockings.

I think

perhaps, maybe I can speak, not for the vast majority of Americans, I'm sure, but for a lot of Americans.

Shut up, both of you.

Just do your job.

I've never felt more like a parent to the country than I do right now.

Shut up, both of you.

Both of you go to your rooms.

I'll deal with each of you separately.

Right now, I just want you to do exactly what I told you to do.

And I think that's the way every voter feels.

just

get the stuff done that you said you were going to do

knock everything else off.

I need you to get down to the the very bottom layer of what the hell is Russia doing in our country you notice nobody's really talking about that nobody is actually saying that We're in trouble because Russia has infiltrated both sides

Both sides look at what look at what Russia did Russia went and they went after the DNC right

see they were trying to help Trump no no

they went after the DNC and what did they do

they released information that caused the Democrats to turn on themselves

It caused the Democrats to say, wait a minute,

this whole thing is dirty.

You just screwed Bernie Sanders and you knew exactly what you were doing.

So the Democrats turned on themselves.

Now, what do they do to the Republicans?

Yeah, they helped Trump win.

No, actually, they didn't.

No, they didn't.

I believe they set Trump up.

So, and Trump, his people played right into their hands.

Both sides did.

Both parties played right into Vladimir Putin's hands.

And so what happened?

We now have an investigation on Trump, which has caused people to lose faith in what?

The Republicans, the media, Donald Trump, the system.

And on the other side,

you've got

the Democrats beating each other up, splitting the party.

They don't believe in America.

They don't believe in the system.

They don't believe in their fellow Americans anymore.

We don't believe in each other.

We don't believe in anything anymore.

Gee, if I went back and I looked at what the FBI was saying that Vladimir Putin was trying to do, or if I really wanted to know for sure, go back to the people around Vladimir Putin and see where they set it on record what they were trying to do, and that is to cause the American people to lose trust in the democratic system.

And that's what's happening.

And why is nobody talking about that?

Because

too much power is at stake.

And so

we'll just sit here and

argue over who's going to get power instead of actually diagnosing the problem and then saying, hey, why don't we cure this disease?

Yesterday I was driving into

going to church

and I wanted to put some Christmas music on, so I just went to

iTunes and I went to the browse section.

I looked at the playlist and I went to Essential Christmas Music.

Turn it on.

First one is All I Want for Christmas is You.

Then Happy Christmas, the War is Over.

Then Santa Baby.

Then Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas.

Then Last Christmas by Wham.

Then White Christmas.

Then Jingle Bell Rock.

Then Christmas Please Baby Come Home.

Then rocking around the Christmas tree, Felice Navidad.

I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus.

Please come home for Christmas.

I didn't find anything about

Christmas.

Actually,

about,

you know, Christmas.

So I tried another playlist.

Celebrate the holidays.

Santa Baby.

Can't get enough of that one.

Mistletoe.

Christmas time is here, but you're not.

Santa's coming for us us this year.

Christmas, baby, please come home.

Frosty the snowman.

Melekalakimaka.

All my Christmases.

Winter Wonderland.

Let it snow.

Okay, so

I tried to find a, well, maybe

R ⁇ B for the holidays.

No, it starts with little drummer girl.

Then...

Girls can be drummers too, but

it's 2006.

Yeah,

I know.

Then Winter Wonderland, All I Want for Christmas is You.

The Christmas song, Sleigh Ride, Christmas Time is Here.

Okay.

The closest I could get

was

Little Drummer Girl.

That's as close as I could get.

As I'm looking through all these and letting one of the playlists play, an Andy Williams song comes on.

It's the most wonderful time of the year.

It's the most wonderful time of the year with the kids jingle belling.

Okay, my kids aren't jingle belling.

Your kids jingle belling?

I don't even know what jingle belling is.

But are your kids jingle belling?

No.

And everyone telling you be of good cheer.

Hmm.

No,

I think I'm probably the one

in life going, you know, let's just try to, you know, be a good cheer.

I mean, just get through it.

It's the most wonderful time of the year.

No, I don't think it is anymore.

I'm not sure.

With those holiday greetings,

maybe,

holiday, happy holiday, and the gay happy meetings.

I don't even want to address that one.

It's the happiest season of all.

There'll be parties for hosting.

No, we've taken the party thing so far that we feel guilty when we don't go to somebody's cookie party.

We don't go to some Christmas party.

We don't go to somebody's house.

We haven't called them.

We haven't brought in the right wine.

We haven't done something that we were supposed to do.

There'll be parties for hosting.

That makes it a wonderful time of the year.

Marshmallows for toasting.

I don't know anybody who toasts marshmallows at Christmas time.

That's a summer thing.

And caroling out in the snow.

If you're lucky, you have time to do that.

There'll be scary ghost stories.

I immediately thought of my son trying to get him and my children to actually read or watch a Christmas carol.

We got to watch Scrooged.

And Christmases Long, Long Ago.

The tales of Christmases long, long ago.

that

is probably the only thing left

where we can talk about

what Christmas was like growing up with our grandparents but we do that right on the holiday or right before the holiday

we have taken Christmas and we have

there's no war on Christmas

The war is over.

Look at the songs.

there's no there's no we're not talking about Jesus not talking about the manger we're not talking that's the point of this holiday

and it really isn't even

it's not even about the birth of the child okay wow great another child was born yeah this one was promised

but this one had a choice it's what he did at the end of his life that makes all the difference that makes the child special.

It's amazing to me that we miss the point of Christmas.

And yet, a few days later,

we swear it's going to be a new year.

We swear we're going to change.

If you miss the point of Christmas, how could you possibly change?

It's the the most wonderful time of the year

because

we did used to be kinder to each other

because it was about our families and it was

about what the season meant.

You know, the first time Santa really came to America was in Harper's Bazaar, and it was during, I think it was

1862,

And it was a way to try to bring America back

together.

Santa was on the front lines.

That was the first time he appeared.

We didn't celebrate by buying each other a whole bunch of crap.

In fact, we didn't even take the day off as a holiday.

America was Scrooge.

No.

We felt it was too sacred of a day to make it garish by taking the day off.

You went and you did your work,

and then quietly at home, you reflected on the meaning.

We thought it would be too garish.

Do you know why Thanksgiving is always

the

what is it?

The last, the second, no, the last

Thursday before

December.

Do you know why it's positioned there?

Because it used to float.

But FDR,

during the Second World War, I'm sorry, before the Second World War, in the 1930s, during the Depression,

locked it in to jump-start the economy,

encouraging people like George Bush did after September 11th, do your patriotic duty and go shopping.

I want the most wonderful time of the year back again.

And the only way that happens is if we just remember it in our own personal life.

Don't force anybody else.

Stop talking about the war on Christmas.

It's over.

Let's rebuild the holiday.

and let's just start in our own personal lives,

just recognizing that a week from today,

we don't celebrate,

we commemorate

what that child that was born grew up to do.

Say it, Stuart.

Are you looking at me like

you

hate Christmas, don't you?

I love Christmas.

I don't think you do.

You seem to hate everything about it.

I mean,

you don't like the Christmas songs.

You don't like presents.

That is one of my favorite Christmas songs.

And you just went through line by line and dissected it.

And I dissected it like that.

None of that is happening anymore.

I believe those things used to happen.

They don't happen anymore.

Though, I don't think I want scary ghost stories in the middle of Christmas.

It's not scary.

It's Scrooge.

That's what they mean by that.

It's not a scared.

That's not a scary ghost story.

It was back then.

It's what it was.

That's what it meant.

You've ruined the holiday.

You've ruined it.

Scrooge.

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Glenn back.

Let's quickly go to John in Indiana.

Hello, John.

You're on the Glenn Beck program.

Hi, Glenn.

Hi.

I just wanted to make an overall observation.

If you jump back and take the long view of the entire history of Christmas, it has never had anything to do with Christ whatsoever.

The Roman government, when they adopted Christianity, forced

it

to that, but the interesting part is we've forced Christ into it, and then it takes 2,000 years for them to pry him out of it.

So we've come back full circle to a method of totally pagan worship.

Yeah, John, I appreciate your point of view, and you're right in some ways.

This has happened before.

This happened right around the Dark Ages.

And

when the churches split and there was a Reformation, they wanted to get rid of Santa and everything else.

And they ended up, the churches ended up actually having little children delivered presents dressed as Christ, which was weird.

You know, they kind of went back to Santa.

I'm not talking about the actual, you know, pagan rituals, and you're right.

I mean, why is it December 25th?

And we know all of that.

What I'm talking about is Americans used to keep Christmas as a holy day and a holy time.

And it was, it had more reverence to it.

It's really now about parties and shopping.

And quite honestly, it's getting tiring.

It's wearing people out.

It's supposed to be a time of reflection and peace and family.

Is it?

Glenn Beck.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

It's not that I'm negative on the holiday.

Yes, it is.

No, it's really.

Yes, it is.

You hate it.

No, I don't.

You hate it.

I love this holiday.

I just don't.

You know what?

I mean,

Stuart, are you a little overscheduled?

You know, a little bit.

Yeah.

That's the thing.

Right.

Because it's like, you know, we were talking about this this week and we had a, I've never had more Christmas parties I've gone to.

And not just like Christmas parties parties for kids but like the you know Christmas parties with your friends that are adults where like there's drinking and there's I mean no this is not you but saying for other potentially other fun people

or more degenerate people whatever you want I'm fine with that description

but there we have we had so many of them and every one of them has been individually fun like I've had good times at all of them but there's so many of them And I feel like you get to that point where you're just scheduling yourself as if it's like a full-time job.

It is you just it becomes oh geez what do we have to do tonight yeah where are we going tonight what and by themselves they would be great yes but it's just becoming this

this this list of things you have to do yeah this is what one thing we're very guilty of is we have a bunch of christmas traditions that we do like some of them are things going back to me and my wife when we were you know together before kids and then as we've had two kids each time we've had the holiday come around we've had new traditions with them, and all of them are great.

But you wind up every year adding like two more traditions to the point of all you're doing is scheduling how the hell you're going to get from one tradition to the next tradition.

I'm just going to say something here, and I'm just going to leave it alone.

But

everybody who knows knows

that damn elf is going to be the death of me.

I'm going to leave it at that.

Leave it at that.

That's exactly where it should be left.

And I do understand that.

Damn it.

Well, it's in a I could meet the person

Right.

The point here is the same thing with, like, I love doing Christmas things.

I love doing Christmas things with my family.

It's a great time of year.

I also love

sports and I love sports with my kids.

You know, I remember growing, some of my best memories are, you know, playing sports with my dad and now playing sports with my kids.

It's fantastic.

But you can get to a point where all you're doing is you're a human shuttle and you're going from sporting event to a sporting event.

Exactly right.

And that's what the holiday is.

And you know what?

That's also what the holiday meal has become because the more people that marry in, you have to have your traditional food, then they have to have theirs.

And so by the time you get, you know, your children married, you've got like 40 side dishes and everybody just eats one.

And you're like, hey, Merry Christmas.

Did we make the right side dish?

Did we get it exactly right?

Oh my gosh.

It's so true.

We're just, we're just, we feel such a load of responsibility that it has to be perfect.

It's why I hate New Year's Eve.

Tanya and I stay home on New Year's Eve.

Too much pressure.

Too much.

Pressure for what?

Pressure.

For it to be like a great party or a great something or other.

No.

It's too much pressure.

It's too much.

Wait, but I mean, when you go to a party,

the pressure is not on you for the party to be great.

It's only if you're hosting the party, right?

I mean, what do you care if you go to a party?

If it's not that great, you can just leave.

No party I go to is good.

Right, and that's what people want to do.

You can just leave.

I'm there, so no party is good.

Yeah.

It's not that I get invited to parties, but, you know, you just, that's Valentine's Day.

Valentine's Day, no pressure there, Stu.

Well, I mean, there's some pressure on Valentine's Day.

You know, there's those big things.

Today's my first date anniversary, which I still celebrate.

Another tradition, right?

Congratulations.

Thank you for the holiday.

Before the holiday, which is really stupid because I should have waited to date her until January.

My anniversary is January 8th.

Stupid.

Right.

It's like, what are you going to do?

It's literally one week before Christmas.

Yeah.

So now I have to come up with a good, like,

I don't know, something, dinner, night, present, whatever it is.

And it's one week before Christmas, which we will take our bank account and bring it down to zero to make sure the kids have,

I don't know, whatever toy they're supposed to have, I don't even know.

I'm at that point now where Lisa, the other day, my wife, she says,

we're all done with the Christmas shopping.

And I'm like, oh, that's cool.

And I stopped to think about it.

It's like, well, we have two kids of four and six.

This is a cool time.

Like, I kind of want to be involved in the Christmas shopping, right?

Like, this is the best.

Like, why else do you do this, right?

This is the time where it's really fun.

And I'm like,

she's like, don't get them anything else.

They already have too much stuff.

So now I'm at the point, do I have to, it's either me saying, Look, it's Christmas.

Screw you, honey.

I'm getting them what I want,

or I'm just completely priced.

I'm like, here's what you do.

Here's what you do.

All I did was pay

for all the Christmas pieces.

Now, it's not going to work as well as it does with grandparents because now, as a grandparent, I have this over my children's heads all the time.

Okay.

You know, Christmas is coming,

and

I have noticed as a grandfather that there are really noisy toys

that just don't end.

And so what you do is you tell, if Lisa's staying at home with the kids, then what you do is you just say, you know,

this season, we're going to pass it.

But if you shop for the kids without me next year, I'm going to find the loudest, noisiest toy that the kids will love.

No parent wants that.

No parent wants that.

No parent wants that.

It doesn't work as well for you because you actually have to live in the home to right.

That's true.

So you'll have that.

It's a minor problem.

But with grandparents, it's fantastic.

Because you could deal with a loud toy

every few days or weeks when you pop in.

Right.

Yeah, no, I can see that.

Although I don't understand the,

we're trying to get a particular present.

And this present I went to Toys R Us for because I had heard that they were in stock.

They're called fingerlings.

Now, first of all, that's a potato.

That's the name of a potato.

They've taken a toy name and they've named it after a small potato.

It's not even a large potato.

It's not even Mr.

Potato Head.

No, it's just fingerlings.

And I guess there's...

And what are they?

I guess they're like little toys that you put on your fingers and then they attach to your fingers and then you could talk to them.

Like they're little like little creatures, I guess, kind of like a puppet, right?

But I guess they're the new, the hot toy.

So I went in there and asked for them, and the guy looked at me like, like, I, I, like, are you crazy?

Like, yeah, it was like almost, he was insulted that I brought it up, the idea that I could just walk into Toys R Us at like 7 p.m.

on a particular day and buy a fingerling, which, by the way, is available in the next door over because that's a grocery store, because that's a potato.

Okay.

But

his strategy was: look, what you can do to get one of these is call every day to Toys R Us

before the store opens.

Okay.

So call them previous to the actual opening time.

Hope to get someone on the phone, and then they will tell you if overnight they received a shipment.

And if so, be there at opening because if you're not there within the first 20 minutes, they'll all be sold out.

It's like, I, you know what?

I'm sure I can pay triple on eBay

and get this and get this delivered to my house.

Or you can do this for free.

Kids,

you know when we watched Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and he was back in Santa's Good Graces?

There's been an accident.

If you go back and you look at that footage,

that's an old Christmas bulb in his nose and they got really caught.

And he was laying down asleep in the hay in the barn and it caught fire and

all the reindeer are dead.

I'm so sad to can't bring your fingerlings.

But here's a bucket of potatoes for you.

Feel free to attach them.

Shut up and eat your potatoes.

We have 40 side dishes.

You know what they would have done in Ireland for these things years ago?

There are people in China now telling their kids, there are kids in America that don't have fingerlings.

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Glenn back.

Glad you're here.

We have a guest on that I hope to have on more than once.

This guy is amazing.

A friend of mine turned me on to him here recently, and you might have heard about him through another story.

Remember the

professor or the student teacher at a college up in Canada, it happened a few months ago, that

was trying to teach,

you know,

how to think critical thinking.

And they were talking about gender issues.

And so she presented the, you know, one side.

And then she said, now let me play a video and

play the other side and think about it.

Let's talk about it.

Well, somebody was offended

that this person on the video was saying, you know, this is pretty silly, you know, to come up with new names and everything else.

And gender is not fluid.

And

she was called in

and

the college reprimanded her and suspended her and said that playing that video was akin to playing a speech by Adolf Hitler.

Pretty strong.

So we looked up the speech, and it was Dr.

Jordan Peterson.

And it wasn't a Hitler speech.

He is really, really well thought out

and well respected by those people who don't believe in political correctness in Canada.

And I thought you should meet him.

He's going to be coming on.

Here's just a little taste of how he thinks.

This is the difference.

What is it?

Friendship and kindness and truth.

Listen to this.

Yeah, well, kindness is the excuse that social justice warriors use when they want to exercise control over what other people think and say.

So, you know, if we're bandying back and forth

our differences and values, you know,

I would say that the highest possible value is truth and that one of the concomitants is that is that we need stringent protection for freedom of speech so that we can utter the truths that we see fit.

And I think that that's a value that's much higher than kindness, for example.

I mean, there's lots of situations in life where kindness in the immediate present is not the appropriate way to react at all.

So for example, when you discipline children, you often hurt their feelings in the short term so that they can learn to behave properly.

in the medium to long term so that their lives go well.

And so this automatic assumption that the people on the social justice warrior side of the equation are motivated only by kindness when they're also clearly motivated by power is something I find completely untenable.

And I don't think that Pete's solution to program my cell phone so that I can remember what names people need to be called is a reasonable solution at all.

We're actually supposed to now use electronic devices to bolster our ability to speak freely.

How do you came in with your phone, someone?

It's going to be an interesting hour coming up.

Jordan Peterson, and he's got a new book coming out next month called 12 Rules for Life, The Antidote to Chaos.

I find it fascinating that that's what he says we're going through right now.

Chaos.

And he's right.

And

it's what we've been talking about on this program for a long time.

So how do we get rid of the chaos?

He says he's got 12 rules that will help you do it.

We'll talk to him and talk to him about political correctness and

freedom of speech.

And, you know, what does it mean anymore, freedom of speech?

Do we have it anymore?

He's coming up in a second.

Do you see

Ted Cruz

going after Mark Hamill?

Was he going?

Was it going after Mamill?

No, no.

Well, Mark Hamill was going after Ted Cruz.

Yeah, yeah.

It's pretty remarkable.

If you read anything from the right, the headline is, ted cruise crushes mark hamill you go over the huffington post they say they mark hamill crushes ted cruise yeah um that's the internet yeah i know listen to this so uh to hamill look uh luke I know Hollywood can be confusing, but it was Vader who supported government power over everything and said and done on the internet.

That's why giant corporations, Google, Facebook,

Netflix supported the FCC power

of

net neutrality.

Reject the dark side.

Free the net, Ted Cruz.

Now listen, this is the response.

Thanks for the smarm spaining it to me, Ted Cruz.

I know politics can be confusing, but you'd have more credibility if

you spelled my name correctly.

I mean, it's right there in front of you.

Maybe you're just distracted from watching porn at the office again.

Of course.

And this is because Hamill was the first one, right, that went at him because he posted a picture of some Star Wars thing.

So, I mean, it's just ridiculous.

Cruz responded: rather than insults, try a civil discussion of facts.

Fact one, until 2015, the FCC had no authority over the internet.

The net grew free and unregulated.

Fact two, with net neutrality, the FCC declared power to regulate everything said and done on the internet.

That's bad for freedom, Ted Cruz.

Luke is not pulling out

little lightsaber anymore to go against Ted Cruz.

I highly recommend that you don't try to go after Ted Cruz because he'll slice you to ribbons.

Yeah, he's a little smarter.

What did Dershowitz say about him?

The smartest student he'd ever had in his entire time teaching?

Yeah, you might want to stay away from that.

Probably don't want to mess with him.

Well, if you're the guy who plays Luke Skywalker and

then you had a minor three-decade absence and then played Luke Skywalker again.

I mean, you've had one job.

He actually has had a lot of voice work and stuff, which everyone points out.

But,

you know, I honestly thought that the reason why he, you know,

I thought they were going to try to hide him quite a bit in these movies.

He actually does a pretty good job in this late list.

I hear this is the best he's ever been, acting-wise.

It has to be.

But I mean, the hurdle is low.

Back in a minute.

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Their budget of $7 billion should go all of it, every dime, to that and nothing else.

Another idea for you: just stick to the blueprint.

There is no need to ban any more words.

It's Monday, December 18th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

So, a couple of weeks ago, a friend of mine introduced me

via YouTube to a guy named Jordan Bernt Peterson.

He is a clinical psychologist and cultural

critic and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto.

He's a man that apparently makes a lot of people angry,

at least those who are progressives and diehards on the left.

We're pleased to have him on with us now.

Professor, how are you, sir?

I'm very well.

How are you doing?

I'm good.

I'm a new fan of yours.

And quite honestly,

one of the most remarkable things I've heard you say, at least on a YouTube clip, you were asked the question about whether you believed in the resurrection.

And I thought it was such a thoughtful answer and such a brave answer

that I became an

immediate fan.

Do you remember your answer?

I don't remember that.

I don't remember the specific answer that you're referring to.

So I'm afraid I can't comment on it further, but I'm glad that you found it useful.

I mean, it's a very difficult question, obviously.

Can you answer it now?

I'd like to see where you stand today if it's the same place.

Well, most of what I've been doing, I've done a 15-part lecture series online on the Bible, but I've been approaching it psychologically,

which is not to say that it can't be approached religiously or theologically or as literature in many different ways, but I've been approaching it psychologically.

There's a deep psychological

idea

behind

the symbol of the resurrection, which is obviously an extraordinarily powerful idea.

It's gripped billions of people for thousands of years.

It's an overwhelmingly powerful idea.

And the psychological idea is that in order for human beings to be redeemed, in order for our psyches to be renewed, we have to be willing to let that part of us that's unworthy die so that a better part can come to life.

And you experience this every time you encounter a serious setback in life.

You know, if you're betrayed by someone or if you make a catastrophic error, you have to go and

go through your past life with a fine-toothed tomb and your assumptions and your axioms, and you have to find out which ones have served you badly and which need to be cast into the fire, so to speak.

And that's very, very painful.

It's something that's very hard for people to do because the part of you that's made a mistake is alive and it doesn't want to be, it doesn't want to be destroyed and revivified.

but it's something that you need to continually engage in as you move through life in order to stay on top of the ever-changing environment it's like you know a forest has to be renewed by fire and the fire strips out the old growth in the deadwood but it lets new things come to life and at minimum from a psychological perspective the idea of the resurrection portrays that fundamental reality.

It's the reality of being willing to let your old self die die so that your new self, your new better self, can come into being, which is a particularly useful thing to think about around New Year's, right?

Because that's something we dramatize at New Year's, with the death of the old year and

the rebirth of the new year.

That's associated as well, obviously, with the idea of Christmas and

the dawn of something new and redemptive.

So I don't know if that was the same answer.

It wasn't.

It wasn't.

That was a good one.

It wasn't.

I'll let others find your talk on that.

But it was a great answer.

That was a good answer as well.

I really wanted to talk to you because

you've led an interesting life.

And the path that you have taken after you finished school, you went over to Europe for about a year, and you

decided to, you were moved by the fear of the Cold War and World War II and how could people do these things to each other.

A very similar journey in some ways that I have made in the last 10 years.

And I am seeing the seeds of really disturbing things happening in our society all around the world.

And I'm wondering if you have an answer to understand it

or to defuse what we seem to be building now.

Well, I can

see when I

wrote a book in 1999 called Maps of Meaning, which took me about 15 years to write.

So I wrote it between 1985 and 1999.

And during that time, I was obsessed with the issues that you just described.

The issues for me were, number one,

how

and this is in relationship to the Cold War, how is it that the world could be split into two opposing, let's say, ideological camps, or at least two idea-based camps, and that that split was

magnet manifested itself with such intensity that people on both sides of the divide were willing to put the the entire

what would you what would you say put being itself at risk yes to arm ourselves so heavily that we could destroy

plausibly destroy everything and that we might be willing to do that why was it that people were so wedded to their beliefs and their opposing beliefs that that seemed well that that developed let's say even though no one necessarily thought it was a good idea, it obviously developed.

And then a secondary question was:

how is it that in the service of ideological possession, let's say, people could commit acts of unbelievable brutality, like those that characterized the death camps in Nazi Germany and the

Gulag archipelago in the Soviet Union

and the absolute mayhem that reigned in Maoist China?

I was interested in individual motivation, not the motivation of groups so much, but how and why people could find themselves as individuals in situations where they would be called upon and then do

commit acts of unimaginable brutality, even when apparently normal

in their psychological

makeup.

So I was trying to

delve into those two ideas.

The first in Maxime, the first thing I wanted to figure out was

in this ideological war between the West and the Soviet Union, let's say,

was that merely just a difference of opinion, let's say, as the postmodernists might have it, because

postmodernists don't believe any, that there are any belief systems that have any more fundamental utility or reality than any others.

And so I was curious, was it just a matter of opinion?

with the Soviet Union taking the communitarian stance, let's say, and the West taking the capitalist democratic stance.

But there was no right or wrong at the bottom of that.

It was just a matter of arbitrary power.

So I spent a lot of time investigating the understructure of those belief systems, partly as a consequence of reading people like Nietzsche and Carl Jung and Alexander Solzhenitsyn and a variety of others,

some very great people.

And what I concluded was that this was not merely a matter of opinion, that there was something about the way we constituted our belief systems in the West, predicated as they are on the Judeo-Christian tradition, that made that,

and that being in turn predicated on something even deeper, something of even evolutionary significance, I would say, that made it quite evident to me that

the idea of the supremacy of the individual that's emerged in the West is by no means merely another opinion.

And the reason for that is twofold, I think.

The first is that

the state cannot be the answer to our problems because the state is static, as indicated by its very name.

The state is static, and it's composed of the contributions of the dead in the past.

And no matter how great the dead were, they're dead, and they cannot respond in a vital way to the challenges of the present.

The individual has to do that.

So, even though the state and tradition is necessary, which every conservative, say,

would note in a moment, It's the individual that has to serve as the eyes and the voice of the state and revivify it when necessary.

And that's part of that rebirth process.

It's very much what you're saying is very similar to almost what Thomas Jefferson wrote about.

That it is, you know, we can write it down now, but this will change and should change.

And every single generation has to find it for themselves and has to and defend it and live it for themselves.

The dead should not rule beyond the grave.

Well, that's it.

Well, and you know, you said that every generation has to rediscover it.

There's a motif that I've concentrated on quite extensively in Maps of Meaning, but also in my YouTube lectures, which is the archetypal motif of

rescuing the father from the belly of the beast.

You see that, for example, one of the popular manifestations of that was in the Pinocchio story that Disney did in the 30s, right?

Where Pinocchio, to stop being a puppet, has to journey down to the darkest place there is and rescue his his father.

And

that is the responsibility of the living

to the past, is that we have to go back, we have to go into chaos and the chaos, let's say right now being our current polarized political state, and find out what was wise and good and productive about the past and then lend it a new voice and new vision.

And that makes the individual.

The individual who does that is then an optimal combination of that dynamic living vision and voice that's also symbolized, by the way, by the Christian idea of the word and the traditions of the past.

And that's the solution.

So you said, well, what's the solution to

the polarization that

is tearing us apart?

Well, the polarization is a polarization of group identity.

The left pushes forward an identitarian perspective where group identity is the paramount feature of every individual.

And then the right does the same thing.

Now, they're doing it for different reasons, but they're driven by the same belief that identification with the group is the highest moral virtue.

And that's,

well, I would say that's wrong.

You have to have respect for the group.

You have to have respect for your traditions and gratitude for them rather than pride about them because you didn't produce them, which is another reason why I think racial pride and even pride in tradition is a very bad idea.

Pride is a sin and it goes before a fall.

You be humble, you should be humble and grateful for what the past has given to you, and you should strive to embody the best of it and to revivify it, and you should act as an individual.

And I do believe that the path of the divine individual, let's say, is actually the proper redemptive path.

And I believe that that's the central message.

Well, I think it's the central message of Judaism, especially with regards to the prophetic tradition.

But it's most definitely the central message of Christianity, because Christianity puts forward the notion that the individual is,

well, partakes of divinity.

And one of the things I pointed out in my biblical lectures is that there's an idea in Genesis, which I've studied in depth, that at the beginning of time, God creates order out of chaos.

with the word.

And so the idea there, the psychological idea there, is that there's something about communicative and productive, honest speech that encounters chaos and the unknown.

That's the tohu vabohu that exists

before the beginning of the universe.

And that

truthful and positive word spoken forth brings order out of chaos, brings habitable order out of chaos.

That's the creation story in Genesis.

And part of that creation story is the idea that human beings are made in the image of God.

And what that means is that we have the capacity and the moral obligation to speak truth

to orient ourselves to the good and speak truth and to bring habitable order out of chaos.

And that's, if we, if we don't do that, then

what?

And chaos, well, then chaos reigns and things deteriorate into hell.

And I think that's where we're headed, back in just a minute with Dr.

Jordan Philipson.

You said we're headed.

To chaos.

we are, I mean, we are seeing it grow every single day, and it's because we're stifling speech.

Dr.

Jordan Peterson, psychology professor, University of Toronto, you can find him on YouTube and

watch the Pinocchio YouTube.

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We are thrilled to have Jordan Peterson on.

He is a professor at the University of Toronto and a fearless defender of the truth.

You get into a lot of trouble for the things that you say because you don't agree with political correctness at all.

And,

you know,

w we're struggling now with a way to tell the truth

and not be destroyed by it.

Any tips?

Well, the first thing is is that, you know, from one perspective I've gotten a lot of trouble, but I would say the net consequence has been overwhelmingly positive in in in all sorts of ways, both personal and social.

But I would also say a lot of it, Brennan, is a matter of having your fears in order.

There's no doubt that telling the truth is a risky enterprise, but

it's not even in the same category of risky as not telling the truth.

The thing is, is the consequences of telling the truth might be immediate and self-evident,

and the consequences of failing to speak the truth, hiding, say, or lying are deferred and medium to long term, but they're much more grotesque and terrible.

I mean, deceit and sins of omission, like failing to say what you really think to be the case, it warps your character and it sets you up for a terrible fall in the future.

And so

people have been commending me on my bravery over the last year, and I think in some sense it's misguided because I'm not so much brave, I think, as terrified of the right thing.

And the last thing that I want to do, and this is, I think, partly because of what I realized by analyzing what happened in Nazi Nazi Germany and in the Soviet Union and so forth, is the last thing I'm willing to do is to sacrifice my voice, let's say.

Like, I'm way more terrified of that than of anything else.

And I just think that I don't think of that as a metaphysical statement, although it is.

I think of it as a practical statement.

If you lose your character because you lose your voice, then, well,

as the Pinocchio movie puts it, you become a braying jackass, a puppet.

You stay a puppet and become a braying jackass.

And that's a really bad idea.

You end up sold to the salt mines when that happens.

It's not a good thing.

Jordan Peterson, he is coming out with a new book in January, and I'd love to have him back, 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos.

We're going to continue our conversation with him in just a second.

You can find him online

and YouTube.

Just Google search Jordan Peterson, Dr.

Jordan Peterson, and I think

you will spend the day really hearing the truth, I think, refreshingly

for the first time.

Glenn Beck.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

The guy I want you to get to know, his name is Jordan B.

Peterson.

JordanB.Peterson.com is his web address.

You can just find him.

He is on YouTube.

He's written several books.

He's got a new one coming out in January, 12 Rules for Life, an Antidote to Chaos.

I actually have an advanced copy.

I'm going to be reading it over the holiday.

Professor, I'm glad to have you.

Glad to have you on.

And maybe you can help us find

some meaning or a or a direction to go here both sides here in america i'm i'm sure you're aware of what's happening here in america it's gotten a little nuts uh it's the same in canada is it you guys yes it's very bad um we are we're we're sitting here now arguing over fake news and and it's amazing if you are if you're somebody who just doesn't have a side your side is the truth you're looking at both sides saying you're both lying and you're both telling the truth.

It just depends on when and where.

And most people don't have a way

to find the truth, or at least they're just

they're willing just to

go with whatever is on their side.

And so the truth is

kind of everywhere and yet nowhere in America.

How do you find the truth?

How do you know what truth is?

Well, the first thing I would say is that you have to be very careful

when making a claim that you can find the truth or that you know what the truth is.

But this question can still be answered.

And I would say the way to start allying yourself with the truth, which is a good idea, by the way, because the truth reflects reality and it's good to have reality on your side.

since there's a lot of it and not very much of you.

The first thing you do is restrict falsehood.

And so I would say that if people are interested in telling the truth and abiding by the truth, which is the most practical thing you can do, that the first thing you do is to stop lying.

And you can tell when you're lying.

You can do that by omission,

by failing to say something you believe to be true, or by commission, by actually being deceitful.

You can tell if you're doing that because it makes you weak.

It makes you feel physically weak and ashamed.

And everyone knows that.

That's the voice of conscience.

And

because we're imaginative and because we can distort and manipulate our perceptions and our language, we're very tempted to live out falsehoods and to perceive falsehoods.

You have to start humbly, sort of in your own,

well, there's this advice I've been giving to people that's become somewhat of an internet meme, which is I think someone just sent me 50 bunper stickers with this on it.

I've been telling people to clean their rooms, you know, because one of the things I've noticed with the college-type activists is that they're very frequently young people who have no control whatsoever over their own personal life.

Everything about them is in disarray, and yet they're possessed by the idea that they can critique the general social structure and that they have the wisdom to put it right.

It's like you should attend to your own mistruths to begin with in your own personal life, in your own family, and and and get that straight.

It's very difficult.

That's why it says in the New Testament that you should remove the beam of wood from your eye before you worry about the dust moat in your neighbor's eye.

That's a very wise statement and it's not one that people like to hear because, you know, when we want to come out for the truth, we want to do it in a grand gesture so that everyone notices.

But to come out for the truth is something that you do humbly and privately and even with a certain degree of embarrassment and shame because you become aware very rapidly of how many petty and terrible ways you're distorting your relationship with reality.

And it's embarrassing.

But I don't know if people are embarrassed by, I mean, there are people who, you know, you know, you've gotten in trouble with them, that will look you straight in the eye and say, there is no biological difference between a man and a woman.

Well, that is just.

I don't know if they'll look me straight in the eye and say that.

You know what I mean?

And

I don't,

my experience has been in situations like that, that

words of that form are not put forward with any strength.

And one of the things that's happened to me, Glenn, in the last year that's been extraordinarily interesting, and I'm unbelievably fortunate that it's occurred, is that every time I've been attacked by people who are putting forward the kind of ideology that you've been describing, it has backfired unbelievably spectacularly.

And so

these untruths, let's say, they reveal themselves in people's gestures and attitudes.

They make people resentful and vengeful.

That's the worst of it.

But they also deprive their words of any real strength, which is partly why they have to be put forward with such vehemence and force and ideological exactitude, because there's nothing really behind them.

And

well, that becomes quite evident.

Well, that becomes quite evident in the course of a genuine public discussion.

What does it mean to be a Christian anymore?

A lot of us have...

I mean, what it should mean, what it should mean is, and I'm speaking psychologically again here, let's say.

Christ is the archetypal perfect man, whatever that means.

It's a concept that's really beyond understanding because we don't know our full extension.

We don't know our full possibility or potentiality.

I mean, Christ himself said that the people that he left behind could do works greater than his if they were willing to undertake the arduous pathway necessary to make that occur.

So there's no underestimating the potential power and grandeur and nobility of the individual.

But the problem is that

it requires the adoption of infinite responsibility, let's say.

You know, one of the things that characterizes Christ, technically speaking, is that he took the sins of the world unto himself.

And that can be interpreted psychologically as well.

Like when I was reading about Auschwitz and about the behavior of the camp guards in Auschwitz, I wasn't reading about

some evil Nazi who wasn't me doing these things.

I was reading about me doing them.

And that's a terrible thing to apprehend.

And to be a Christian, say, in any real sense, is to understand first that you bear the moral burden of the 20th 20th century and that it's up to you to do something about it and not to change other people, but to put yourself together so that if the political situation warped and twisted around and you were called on to do something reprehensible, that you would have the strength of character to refuse to do it.

But to even develop that, you have to understand first that you're the person in the concentration camp who's having the,

you know, the person who's just been hauled off the

the rail cars, crammed in there like cattle, lined up and then sentenced to carry a wet sack of salt that weighs a hundred pounds from one side of the compound to another and back, and that you're the person who would enjoy doing that to someone in such a terrible situation.

Well, that's what it means, at least in part, to be Christian.

It means to, first of all, come to terms with the fact that

the terrible corruption and malevolence of human beings is something that characterizes you and that you have an obligation to understand that and to work to rectify it because the consequence of not doing it is dreadful beyond imagining and so it's very difficult for people to do that you know in in Dostoevsky's The Brothers Karamazov

There's a little story called The Grand Inquisitor where Christ comes back to earth in Seville during the time of the Spanish Inquisition And he's raising the dead and performing miracles and being a generally good guy and causing a lot of trouble.

And the Inquisitor has him arrested and thrown into prison and to be executed.

And the Inquisitor tells him that the burden that he's placed on human beings is just too great and that the Church has spent centuries trying to modify his his demands so that normal people could tolerate it.

And there's really something to that, the the burden, the moral burden that's placed on someone who claims to be a Christian, is so fundamentally unbearable.

But the alternative is worse.

So that's where we're at.

You either bear the burden and the responsibility of constraining evil in your own heart and then trying to work to make the world a better place, or you exist in the hell that you produce for not doing so.

I'm

struck by

the fact that courage really is a muscle and

misunderstood,

you're not going to be able to rise to the occasion in horrific situations

like

in the past and the 20th century if you don't rise to the occasion now.

If you don't.

Yes, which that's exactly right.

Well, which also shows you that what you do right now, day to day, the way you conduct yourself with your husband or wife and at work and with your family,

despite the fact that those things are day to day, they're not mundane or trivial.

They're vitally important because you put your finger on it precisely.

It's that under if you can manifest a good character under normal circumstances,

then perhaps you'll have developed the sort of character that will enable you to stand up properly in the midst of a catastrophe.

And one of the things that I've been telling the people who've been watching my videos say, who are overwhelmingly young men, by the way, is that they should strive to be the person who's the most reliable,

they should strive to be the most reliable person at their father's funeral.

That's a good goal.

That's a goal that's indicative of the development of some

of a proper

tragic sensibility with regards to life and the formulation of some real character in the face of that tragedy.

And young people now are fed such a diet of tabl.

You know, they're told to develop their self-esteem and to be happy and to be free and

to follow their impulses wherever they might lead.

And

it's not nourishing.

Young men in particular are dying.

I mean, literally, they're dying because of that.

They're dying spiritually and they're dying, well, they're dying in actuality as well, because

being human requires a noble mode of being.

You can't tolerate yourself if you're weak and deceitful and arrogant and resentful.

You just hate yourself,

and then you do harm to yourself and to others.

It's much better to be called forward to do something noble and courageous.

And I've been absolutely struck, Glenn, that the thing that's been most surprising in the last year, I would say, is when I'm doing my public talks.

And this was especially evident in this biblical series.

which is being packed, by the way, it's sold out every day, every time we've hosted one, which is completely bizarre.

But, anyways, every time in those public forums where I talk about responsibility and truth to these audiences, mostly of young men, they're on the edge of their seats, man.

You can hear a pin drop.

It's every time.

It's intense.

And I think it's because since the mid-60s, no one's taken young people and young men in particular and shook them and said, look, you know, you're not who you could be.

Put your act together.

stand up, tell the truth, take your place in the world, and

fortify our culture instead of being whiny and resentful and weak and nihilistic and cowardly and ideologically possessed.

Dr.

Immature.

Dr.

Jordan Peterson.

I don't even feel comfortable anymore calling you by your first name.

Dr.

Peterson, I have to tell you, I get an opportunity to talk to a lot of amazing people, and I have met some truly great people.

This has been the last 15 minutes has been

one of the more remarkable times of my life.

You are a man for this time,

and

I hope to be able to

meet you in person sometime, but we will be watching from afar.

I thank you for everything that you're doing.

Well, thanks for the invitation, Grent.

And Merry Christmas to

you and all your audience.

Merry Christmas.

Yeah.

I have to go back and find what he said about the resurrection

and play it for you

because it was just so honest and so raw and so personal.

And

it's amazing because he said,

I don't know what to think.

I don't know what to think.

You know, my logic tells me no,

but everything in me says yes.

And

obviously a man who, whether he's a Christian or not, boy,

seems to exemplify Christianity.

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Glenn back.

Jordan Peterson, 12 Rules for Life, is his book.

I haven't read it yet, but we're just looking through it

in the break.

And it's, I mean, it's a lot of the stuff that we've talked about here.

I mean, maybe that's why I like him.

I don't know.

Maybe he's reinforcing my worldview.

Maybe I'm falling into that trap.

It's 2017.

That's what we all want out of the world.

I know, I know.

People that reinforce your worldview.

But I mean, this list of 12 things is fantastic.

I mean, compare yourself to who you were yesterday,

not to who someone else is today.

Just that.

Just that.

Would change the world.

Oh, my gosh.

Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world.

It's fantastic.

Pursue what is meaningful, not what is expedient.

Hard.

And then I like this one.

Do not bother children while they are skateboarding.

Which, yeah, maybe we shouldn't hover as much as we do, I guess, is the point of that.

I like that.

Maybe just a little bit.

Glenn back.

Love.

Courage.

Truth.

Glenn Back.

This half hour is going to be eye-opening.

Let's start here.

You remember the scene in Saving Private Ryan where fear grabbed that soldier.

He was watching his buddy get killed with a knife-wielding Nazi.

Probably the most gut-wrenching and fast-forwarded scene in the movie,

because I just feel like,

would that be me?

It's hard to watch.

Being paralyzed by fear fear and enabling evil

are two things that are things that we just can't wrap our arms around.

Politico published an article yesterday alleging the Obama administration was living and playing out that scene over and over and over again for the sake of the Iranian deal.

Fear and ambition caused them to look the other way while evil grew at unprecedented levels.

Project Cassandra.

It was launched by the DEA in 2008, and over the following years, they would be successful in mapping out an intricate web of global Hezbollah financing operations that included drug trafficking from South America,

money laundering here in the United States, and weapons procurement in both Syria and Iraq.

Hezbollah was being run like the Corleone family, and the DEA had them dead to rights.

Their criminal financing networks were mapped out and their agents were identified.

There wasn't a power on earth strong enough to stop Hezbollah from going down after all of this evidence.

That's what the DEA thought.

Turns out they didn't imagine the power of Obama's ambition.

Reconciliation with Iran and a nuclear deal that would catapult his legacy to new unreachable heights was the only thing his administration was interested in.

Former members of Project Cassandra alleged that their agents were purposely stonewalled in order to keep Iran happy.

While Iran and Hezbollah were carving up the Middle East, while they were planning terrorist attacks and raking in billions in drug money, the Obama administration was looking the other way with visions of sugar plum

nuclear deals dancing in their heads.

If this political story is accurate, this is Obama's legacy.

His blind ambition, not only enabling Iran and Hezbollah to become a major power in the Middle East, but they did it by corrupting our values and flooding our streets with drugs.

Now, here's a really interesting part of the story.

They used our own businesses to launder the money back to the Middle East.

They used our own businesses?

Back to that in a second.

All of this for a nuclear deal that could have been nothing more than a smokescreen, a distraction that a legacy crazed U.S.

president would easily jump at to quench his unbridled thirst for ambition.

And so, like that scene from Saving Private Ryan, we may one day see this moment in our history as the most gut-wrenching and the most fast-forward moment in modern history.

It's Monday, December 18th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Do you remember the curious case

of Amonoran?

Amonaran.

I can't even say it.

Imran Iran.

I won't sing it.

Emron I.

Amran Aran.

Amran Iran.

I can't.

Yeah, it can only sing it.

Okay.

This is the congressional aide to Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Not only Debbie Wasserman Schultz, but a whole fleet of high-level Democrats.

This story has been buried.

And then we saw the politico story.

If there's one thing that we're good at on this program is connecting dots.

This dot must be connected.

So here's this guy.

He comes out of nowhere.

He becomes the congressional aide to Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Everybody else.

I mean, a whole list of very high-level Democrats.

He was caught attempting to flee to Pakistan after the U.S.

Capitol police suspected that his family was complicit in a massive security breach.

The further you delve into this case, the weirder it gets.

It looks like he is guilty of bank fraud, criminal misuse of house computer systems, and a laundry list of shady connections and business dealings.

Now,

Debbie Wasserman Schultz

really didn't

really didn't answer any of the charges.

We haven't heard anything about this story.

This guy is hired to be a computer expert, you know, an IT guy.

Well, he's not an IT guy.

He has no IT experience, but he's an IT guy, so he goes to work for Debbie.

She then convinces other Democrats, you should use my IT guy.

Her IT guy is making like $150,000 a year.

Congressional IT people make about $75,000.

Why was he paid twice the?

He must be really good.

Well, he had a great staff.

His family came to work.

They were making exorbitant salaries.

They had no IT experience either.

So here are these people running computers and running

all of the servers servers for several high-level Democrats on Capitol Hill,

and they didn't have any experience.

And they were getting rich.

In fact, so rich

that they started buying houses, and then they wanted to

do some banking fraud to make even more money.

They sold each other houses at the top of the market.

So I would buy my brother's house, and my brother would buy my house.

Then

they bought a car dealership.

No one could understand

why

they bought a car dealership.

In fact, when this first story first broke, I was at the chalkboard and I said, car dealership?

Why would you do, what is up with that?

This story has not been seen.

Completely put in the back of

everyone's mind until the political story came out yesterday that detailed Hezbollah's criminal financing network.

Hezbollah was engaged in narcotics trafficking from South America.

The Obama administration looked the other way.

The drugs were being sold here in the U.S., and the money was being laundered

through used car dealerships.

Billions of dollars were being moved in this manner to finance Iranian and Hezbollah actions in the Middle East.

This puts the Awan story

in an interesting new

context

because one of his shady businesses was a used car dealership.

His brother managed the dealership's daily operation in addition to running computers for the Democratic representatives.

Shady doesn't even give justice to how strange this operation was.

Customers at the car dealership were often

shown cars borrowed from a dealership next door.

A former employee said the business records were so bad that it was, quote, close to impossible to make any sense out of all of the transactions that happened, end quote.

Oh, but wait, it gets even stranger.

Records show that this family took a $100,000 loan out for the dealership from Dr.

Ali al-Attar.

Now, who is Mr.

Attar?

He's an Iraqi politician with links to Hezbollah.

He was actually seen meeting with a Hezbollah official in Lebanon shortly after Awan's acceptance of the $100,000.

Dr.

Attar was indicted in 2012 for tax fraud and fled to Iraq.

Prior to that indictment, he was a co-owner of the dealership with Awan.

He had access to bank accounts.

Now, wait a minute.

Doesn't this sound like exactly what was described in the recent political story yesterday?

The Awan family was operating a shady used car dealership, and money from a guy with links to Hezbollah was part of it.

I wonder if

what

Imran and his family were caught doing,

criminally misusing their access to house computer systems, isn't the real reason why Democrats have appeared to be protecting them.

Democrats want this to go away.

Why?

Why?

What's really going on here?

Was this one of the cogs in Hezbollah's international financing scheme that Politico has just blown the lid on?

Were they part of it?

Was Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the Democrats on Capitol Hill knowingly or unknowingly involved in money laundering for Hezbollah?

Because if that's not what's happening, this is one hell of a coincidence.

The circumstances between what Politico has described, what Hezbollah was doing,

and and what this family in Capitol Hill were caught up in sound identical.

Everyone's been trying to find out why Debbie Wasserman Schultz has protected this family.

Did he have information on her?

Or was there something bigger?

Were Democrats keeping this quiet as part of a larger plan to hide this type of activity in the same way they were stonewalling the DEA in an effort to appease Iran?

I don't know what to say to you.

Because if we weren't in the upside down, I would say we need a hearing.

But I don't trust any of the investigators on either side.

Do you?

Do you really think anybody in Washington is really looking to get to the bottom of anything?

Do you think anybody in the media is really wanting to get to the bottom of anything?

How is it

that an alcoholic former DJ

can put these two stories together and say, wait a minute, what's happening here?

But no one in the news media can do it?

No one in Capitol Hill can do this?

Huh.

Huh.

That seems weird.

There's one more.

There's one more branch on this tree

that maybe

Stu will take us through here in a minute.

I'm interested in this past thing with Imranawan.

In that it's so bizarre, the coincidence between those two things that it would actually

almost seem more odd if it was not connected.

And believe me, I think, as you pointed out in there, you're looking at this and asking questions.

You don't know that this has happened.

Okay, so it would be very strange.

The whole car dealership angle.

He goes, he is losing money for some reason.

He's making all this money.

Somehow or another, he just can't make ends meet.

He goes over for a meeting in the Middle East.

He meets with a guy who's tied to Hezbollah.

The guy says, Hey, you know what?

I hear you want to open a car dealership.

And he says, Sure.

He's an IT guy on Capitol Hill.

The guy, who he supposedly doesn't really know, gives him $100,000 to open up his car dealership.

He opens up his car dealership and he's selling cars that he has borrowed from the lot next door.

It's a strange business model, I grant you.

Yeah, really odd.

I mean, the whole Owan thing is already crazy, but then you, when I mean, this is a lot of Politico has just

scratched the surface of this.

I'm sending, you know, I'm sending the connection to my friends on Capitol Hill today and say, hey, guys, maybe you should notice the Politico story and the Debbie Wasserman Schultz story from a few months ago that all of you pinheads apparently have forgotten about because they seem to fit together.

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So the left doesn't want you to understand that their movement is fake.

But I thank God for millennials because

I think they get that internally.

They just know.

The operatives are fake.

And embodied in this recent quote by the left's new superstar, Linda Sarsour, you will see, quote,

when I wasn't wearing a hijab, I was just some ordinary white girl from New York City.

But wearing the hijab made you know that I was a Muslim.

Oh.

Okay.

So who is she?

The White House designated her as a champion of change.

New York City's Mayor Bill de Blasio sought out her endorsement.

Bernie Sanders used her as a surrogate during his presidential campaign.

And most recently, she has made news as one of the lead organizers of the Women's March.

She was also the lead plaintiff in the lawsuit against President Trump's immigration order.

So who is she actually?

Well, she came out of nowhere around 2003.

She's a Palestinian-American community activist who served as the executive director of the Arab Association, Arab American Association of New York.

She's been there since 2005.

She's also a board member of the Muslim Democratic Club of New York and a member of New York City.

I'm not making this up.

They actually have one.

The New York City Justice League.

good god

now she claims to be a champion of muslims but in 2003 she said this about saddam hussein after he was captured by the u.s troops i don't know i think he's done a lot of things that he shouldn't have done but i was hurt my arab pride was hurt palestinians are on so under so much oppression and no other arab country ever helped them oh

okay well how many thousands of muslims did saddam hussein kill and torture?

I mean, you know, they were his primary target.

They suffered the worst.

We're still discovering the genocidal mass graves from the Saddam era.

You were a champion of the Muslim people, really?

The Arab world?

She claims also to be a champion of human rights, but she has boasted that she has family members and a group of friends in the terror group Hamas.

In

2004,

she

said,

and this was in the

journal

Columbia Graduate School Journalism.

She acknowledged that a friend of hers, as well as her cousin, are both serving long sentences, 99 years and 25 years, in Israeli jails because of their efforts to recruit jihadis to murder Israeli Jews.

Moreover, she revealed that her brother-in-law was serving a 12-year sentence in Israel because of his affiliation with Hamas.

Later, she was added to the women's rights activist list.

She wants to be, you know, right there.

I'm right there for women's rights.

But what does she actually believe?

Well, she once condemned the prominent anti-Islamist

Ayan Hirsi Ali, who is an amazing woman.

She was raised as a Muslim and then subjected to female genital mutilation.

She said, quote, I wish I could take her vagina away.

She doesn't deserve to be a woman.

Oh.

She then later defended Saudi Arabia's treatment of women.

She said

they are way ahead of the United States.

In fact, Saudi women receive 10 weeks of paid maternity leave, and that puts us to shame.

Really?

Saudi Arabia, a place where women aren't even allowed in public without a male escort, they put us to shame?

But now she's in a scandal.

And we come back to that because this is where

the rubber meets the road for the left.

Glenn Beck.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

So I just want to make sure that we have this all covered to see if I've missed anything yet.

Linda Sarsour,

she is, you know, a champion of change.

And she is a champion of Muslims,

but she liked Saddam Hussein because he cared about the oppression of the Palestinians, even though he was torturing and killing Muslims.

Champion of human rights, even though her cousin and a friend of hers are also serving 99 years in Israeli jails because they wanted to, you know, murder the...

murder the Jews.

Women's rights, right?

She's really big on women's women's rights, unless you're eye on Hersey Alley, and then she would like to, quote, take her vagina away.

She doesn't deserve to be a woman.

She's also added Black Lives Matter to her list.

She's also a Black Lives Matter person, except

she said, quote, the sacrifice of black Muslim slaves that went through this country is nothing compared to the Islamophobia of today.

So

Islamophobia is worse than the slave trade in America.

But the left loves her.

Let's see if they'll continue to love her.

My guess is yes.

She has now been accused of enabling sexual assault and body shaming while she was the executive director for the Arab American Association.

One of the victims swore out, said she oversaw an environment unsafe and abusive to women.

Witnesses have corroborated the story that a female staffer working for Sarsour was sexually assaulted by a man multiple times.

And Sarsour dismissed the allegations because the accused was, quote, a good Muslim and always at the mosque, end quote.

She said there was no way any man would want to do such a thing to her

because she was fat.

The accuser claimed Sarsour threatened legal and professional damage if any of this information ever came out.

Just wait until more people start to talk, she said.

Sarsour is no champion of

women.

She is an abuser of them.

Does she go away, Stu?

No,

of course.

I don't think so either.

It's all about what you can use for your own purposes at any given moment, right?

I mean, we're seeing this with the Al Franken thing.

When Roy Moore was up for election, they were all very tough on Al Franken.

Today, they are out saying

maybe we acted hastily.

Maybe Al should stay for a while because, you know, I mean, it's really hypocritical for us to throw him out like this.

Unbelievable.

You know, this is what happened.

They only wanted him out because of Roy Moore.

And they promised him, I can guarantee you, they promised him, look, you're going to be taken care of.

You're going to be a big Whig.

You're going to be a, you're going to be, you know, a grandfather of the progressive movement.

You're a martyr for the cause.

You're a martyr for the cause.

Take one for the team.

He did.

Roy Moore lost.

Now they're like, wait, we could keep him here.

We didn't need to get rid of him.

Right.

I mean, that was what remember the New York Times thing.

I think I read this to you last week, which basically said,

this is how Al Franken is serving history.

His alleged

misdeeds were just the way he served history.

It's like, can you imagine someone on the right getting that treatment for what he was accused of?

I mean, that doesn't depend on.

How about this?

How about this?

How about Lisa Bloom?

Do you know that not a word was printed in the Washington Post or the New York Times about that?

That's incredible.

Explain the story.

So Lisa Bloom is Gloria Allred's daughter.

Okay.

You would think

right off the bat.

She also was involved with the Weinstein situation, but not on the side you'd think.

She was kind of defending him and tossing around ideas that maybe they should go after people in the media who were reporting on it and some of the victims and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So she had already kind of had some criticism against her.

And

it's sort of like, I see if I can give you the exact details, but

she is also the known as the, if you search for her name on the internet, it'll tell you she's Gloria Allred's daughter and she's the lawyer that took down Bill O'Reilly.

It's like in her like Wikipedia page, like the first sentence.

It's like every profile of her talks about how she

was going to, she took down Bill O'Reilly, and this is kind of her big scalp, right?

So, and Bill talked about this on his Friday appearance.

Coming out later today, there's going to be some evidence that

somebody may have paid or was soliciting for funds to pay accusers of Donald Trump to take down Trump during the 2016 election.

Now, Bill has talked about this for months.

He's mentioned it on the air with us several times: that there is a tape that exists, and there's people that have evidence of actual accusers

who may have been paid to go after Trump.

And honestly, like I heard him say it a bunch of times, and I didn't know if he was ever going to be able to come out with it.

And without any evidence.

I knew what he had.

I know what he has now.

And

I think you're going to have to wait for a court case for him to say more about it.

But it is

really damning.

It's really damning.

And you're like, okay, well, something's coming out today.

What's it going to be?

Is it going to be, you know, I mean, Bill's not going to just throw out InfoWars, but I mean, is it some concern?

Is it some concern?

Is it Breitbart, some Breitbart investigation?

You know, which you could obviously dismiss on partisan grounds.

No, the story breaks in the hill, which is, if anything, a left-leaning,

certainly a mainstream source of what's going on in Washington.

And the claim is that Lisa Bloom offered to sell alleged victim stories to TV outlets in return for a commission for herself, arranging a donor to pay off one Trump accuser's mortgage and attempting to secure a six-figure payment for another woman who ultimately declined to come forward after being offered as much as $750,000.

That's what the clients told The Hill.

Women's accounts were chronicled in contemporaneous contractual documents.

Contractual documents.

Remember the whole thing with James Comey?

It was contemporaneous notes.

He went in the meetings with Trump.

He took notes as he left.

And remember how much the left saw that as real evidence, like proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that this guy took notes as he walked out of the room.

And I think you can look at that and say, okay, it's, I don't know if I put it on that pedestal, but okay, that's an indication of what he believed at the time.

These are contemporaneous contractual documents, emails, and text messages reviewed by the Hill, including an exchange of text between one woman and Lisa Bloom that suggested political action committees supporting Hillary Clinton were contacted during the effort.

So she's trying to get all this money.

People want to take Trump down.

She goes to the Hillary donors and says, hey, give us a bunch of money and I'll produce these accusers.

So these accusers get to get their problems financially taken care of while we're taking down Trump.

I mean, this is, again, you'd never believe you'd get this sort of evidence about a story like this.

And it totally, to me,

it demeans anything.

If you can demean anything, Gloria Allred and her daughter have done any further than they should already instantly be discounted because of who they are and what they've done in the past.

But this is a, I mean, this has got to cast a shadow on everything that they've produced in the industry.

There is more than this.

And there's more than this.

There's more than this.

Because I know we've heard about a potential tape of this actually occurring, not even just

a contract or anything like that.

This is an actual tape, but there's even more.

I have a

source that is a second source that has verified.

And

I'm just going to leave it at

this point.

It's curious

that

the one who has

the goods

is not coming forward.

Extraordinarily curious.

And

if you don't soon, I don't think it's going to work out well for you.

Because it's going to come out.

And if you don't come out with it soon,

I just don't think it's going to work out for you.

We are looking at we're looking at

Lisa Bloom

bribing people, bribing people.

And she, by the way, of course, is denying

her intent.

Yeah, she's, no, no, no.

I was just helping them pay for their house.

Well, did you do that for the Clinton accusers?

Oh, surely she did.

Of course she did.

I'm just trying to help them.

Uh-huh.

$750,000.

Boy, that's a lot of money just to help.

So you have bribery.

You have this investigation that has to be had.

New York Times, Washington Post, they're not even on it.

Same attorney that went after Bill O'Reilly.

Bill charges.

Well, I won't let him say it sometime to you.

You have this.

You have the Russia thing on Donald Trump.

You know, what were the connections on Donald Trump?

Plus, you have Donald Trump looking at the FBI saying, what's going on with you guys?

Quite honestly, I think both sides are dirty, both the FBI and people in the Trump administration.

But that doesn't even mention the Hillary investigation.

Hillary Clinton, dirty

with Russia.

She also

was playing games with Russia, especially when it comes to

uranium-1.

And I don't believe that Uranium-1 happened the way the press wants you to think

I would believe that it happened.

I don't think Hillary Clinton necessarily said anything.

I think Uranium 1 took care of all the people they needed to take care of.

She wouldn't have her finger.

She's too smart for that.

I think it's more corrupt than just Hillary Clinton.

And you've got that going on.

Plus, you also need to look into Debbie Wasserman Schultz

and President Obama for allegedly what Politico just said they were doing, which was turning a blind eye, basically the Iran-Contra affair.

But it looks like, at least to me, that it goes all the way to Capitol Hill and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, not just the president who's gone, but to people who are still currently in Congress.

Do you really think these people are going to find the answers to any of these questions?

These are the kinds of things I have said for a long time.

You know, you got to look at what, you know, look what the founders went through before the Declaration of Independence.

I mean, it was not, hey, I disagree with your policies.

They were real problems.

You're entering real

problems.

on both sides.

Both sides are corrupt.

Somebody in Washington better spit themselves out of the system and start telling the American people the truth or the pitchforks eventually will arrive.

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really bad

Amtrak crane trash up in

Pierce County, Washington, which is just south and east of Tacoma, Washington.

And

it's a bad one.

Came down, looks like on the I-5

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And

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Are you following the tax bill at all?

What's going on with that?

No.

So they have 52 votes, right?

Apparently, John McCain is really

bad, yeah.

And it does not look like he would even be able to.

Yeah, I read this morning that he's not going to be able to vote.

So that means you're down to 51 votes.

And, you know, anything can, again, that's a bigger issue

than McCain's health, obviously, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Then you've got Cochran, who's also had health problems, though it looks like he'll be able to vote, but that that would get it to 50.

And, you know, any of these guys, you never know when one of them is going to just flake out and say that they don't want to.

When are they going to pull the trigger on it?

Supposedly, they said a vote could come as early as tomorrow.

The interesting thing about it, though, is that I feel like people are totally treating it as a foregone conclusion.

And that's trouble.

And, you know, if I, again, if I was a betting guy, which I am, but

if I could find a place to wager on

whether this thing would pass or not, you'd get nice odds to say that it's not going to pass.

And Republicans screwed these things up so often.

I could totally see it falling through.

But as of right now, I mean, there are some really good things in there.

We talked a little bit off the air about some of the education benefits.

There's some nice, if you're a school choice person, there's some nice stuff built into it for that.

You know, it's not a great bill.

There's a lot of problems with it.

I'll take it.

But it's better than what we have.

And there's some really good things in it.

Yeah, I'll take it.

I'll take it.

And I'll give Donald Trump credit for it.

I mean, I'll take it.

yeah i mean it's funny they had a um they had a situation where people are like saying well this is going to cost us trillions of dollars and it's going to be a big deal

it's not and then on the other side they're saying look corporations already pay an effective 21 rate so this is not a big deal at all it's like well is it going to cost us trillions or is it not a big deal at all because

if it's not a big change in their rate

You know, I think then why not just make it official?

It's just

every complaint, throw it against the wall, hope something sticks.

You know, so I mean, it's better for the country if a thing passes.

It's just, you wish they would have been a little bit more bold.

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