5/22/17 - The optimistic Senator (Mike Lee)

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Speaker 1 The Blaze Radio Network

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Speaker 4 hello America and welcome to the Glen Beck program. So glad you're here.

Speaker 5 We have to explain the orb.

Speaker 6 Did you guys see the weird orb that President Trump and the One Orb to Rule them all?

Speaker 9 Yeah, one orb to rule them all.

Speaker 10 We had to look that up.

Speaker 13 I saw that and I'm like, okay, that's weird, Lord of the Rings kind of thing.

Speaker 12 Kind of spooky.

Speaker 6 What is it?

Speaker 15 It's kind of a spooky

Speaker 12 Saudi Arabian thing. They're opening up a new center.
We'll tell you about that.

Speaker 18 Also, can we stop the nonsense that President Trump bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia and he is in Jerusalem today?

Speaker 22 We'll have more on that.

Speaker 19 Also, Bill Cosby, his trial begins today as far as picking the jurors. They're going to start picking the jury today with Bill Cosby being accused of being a racist, I mean, sorry, a rapist,

Speaker 15 and also

Speaker 24 an amazing story about how far gender studies have come.

Speaker 26 They

Speaker 6 wait until you see this is the greatest hoax on academia, possibly of all time.

Speaker 31 We begin there, right now.

Speaker 31 I will make a stand,

Speaker 31 I will raise my voice, I will hold your hand. Cause we are one.

Speaker 31 I will be my drum.

Speaker 31 I have made my choice. We will overcome.

Speaker 31 Cause we are run.

Speaker 14 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

Speaker 33 This is the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 34 Hello, America. Welcome to Monday.
We're glad you're here. A lot going on.

Speaker 35 It was a good weekend for the president, I believe, wasn't it?

Speaker 5 Didn't seem to be, it seemed to be presidential seemed to be going really well the press is trying to make something or the left is trying to make something out of how uh donald trump bowed to the uh saudi king which they actually called him a hypocrite for it and

Speaker 8 well if he would have bowed he would have been yeah but but he didn't he didn't bow did not that is not a bow they're no they're placing a like a ribbon metal around his neck yeah and he bends over to make it easier for the placement he wasn't bowing he's

Speaker 46 He's 6'5'5'.

Speaker 48 He's 6'5.

Speaker 49 The king is like, what, 90?

Speaker 4 Like 91 years old, some crazy, you know, he's an old king, and he's lifting this big gold thing and the president bends over so he can

Speaker 34 put it around his neck. And let me tell you something.

Speaker 55 Every president has bent over for the Saudis for a very long time.

Speaker 58 So I don't think anything new is happening here.

Speaker 60 He did not bow to the Saudis.

Speaker 58 Did you see Roger Stone had a real problem with this, though?

Speaker 6 He said getting that award,

Speaker 64 now the left, or sorry, now the right is turning on Donald Trump because

Speaker 35 he didn't say Islamic extremism in his speech.

Speaker 67 Apparently he danced with some swords and

Speaker 35 he accepted this award from the Saudis.

Speaker 55 And so Roger Stone came out and said, this is atrocious.

Speaker 65 This is grotesque.

Speaker 71 This is a betrayal of everything he said on the campaign trail.

Speaker 72 I assume because Roger Stone has never said anything that either he believed or was actually true, that the exact opposite is actually what happened.

Speaker 58 That was really. Have you ever seen the documentary, Get Me Roger Stone?

Speaker 72 It just started. It just

Speaker 14 came out on Netflix.

Speaker 72 I haven't seen it yet, though.

Speaker 74 It's supposed to be great. It is.

Speaker 38 He's a despicable human being.

Speaker 14 Almost by his own admission.

Speaker 42 Oh, yeah. No.

Speaker 55 No, no, no. He admits to all of it.

Speaker 74 Really?

Speaker 76 Oh, he is a despicable human being.

Speaker 8 And he admits to being a despicable human being.

Speaker 58 Yeah, he says he's just playing into it because everybody says that's what he is anyway.

Speaker 78 So why not embrace it?

Speaker 75 Well,

Speaker 56 or, you know, check yourself.

Speaker 39 You know, just say, maybe I'm.

Speaker 72 I was falsely acclaimed, accused of murder, so I've just been murdering people. I mean, everyone thinks I'm a murderer anyway.

Speaker 14 I might as well murder.

Speaker 54 Yeah, that's pretty much it.

Speaker 15 It's a terrible argument.

Speaker 58 Yeah, when you watch it, it's pretty bad.

Speaker 60 But he didn't bow.

Speaker 34 The globe, that spooky

Speaker 81 orb

Speaker 69 that he had his hand on, apparently that's the symbol of some.

Speaker 8 It's an illuminated globe at the Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 77 Yeah, that's going to.

Speaker 83 They're going to do a lot of good there, aren't they?

Speaker 72 Are they opposing the extremist ideology in Saudi Arabia?

Speaker 14 Is that the location of it or is that the location of it?

Speaker 27 That's the location of it.

Speaker 34 Do they know that

Speaker 85 they have the hijackers for 9-11 came from Saudi Arabia?

Speaker 34 Do they're opening this new center?

Speaker 87 Right.

Speaker 46 Guys, look what we just figured out.

Speaker 3 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Somehow or another, I think that's going to turn around on us.

Speaker 3 Wahhabism comes from Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 45 So maybe

Speaker 14 just put your hand on the orb. I don't know.
Just put your hand on the orb.

Speaker 3 It is a cool little orb.

Speaker 33 Well, yeah.

Speaker 33 Cool slash creepy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a little creepy.

Speaker 51 Maybe, you know.

Speaker 72 It looks like a scene from a movie.

Speaker 89 It does.

Speaker 56 It does.

Speaker 90 It looks like canal.

Speaker 82 We all put our hand on the orb and it will read our palm prints and it will start the doomsday device.

Speaker 72 This is the case with every president, though.

Speaker 72 Like you go to these other countries, you know these pictures are going to look terrible for you at home, but you're trying to have a good relationship with another country.

Speaker 72 So you just kind of go along with it. And then it becomes like the defining moment of your presidency.

Speaker 72 It does seem like it's a pretty common occurrence.

Speaker 40 It never seemed to hurt

Speaker 86 Barack Obama.

Speaker 74 Do you remember the pictures of the video of

Speaker 25 George Bush going to open up the big Chinese doors?

Speaker 93 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 9 And how many times they ran that over and over and over again?

Speaker 75 Because

Speaker 21 that exact footage exists with

Speaker 81 Barack Obama.

Speaker 39 He did the exact same thing, but they just didn't make a big deal out of it.

Speaker 91 So, I mean, when you're going over there,

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 21 when George Bush was dancing, where was he dancing?

Speaker 58 And he just looked ridiculous.

Speaker 27 Well, it wasn't

Speaker 87 Mr.

Speaker 96 Trump, President Trump didn't look that great dancing with the swords himself.

Speaker 92 Well, yes.

Speaker 15 Yes.

Speaker 93 And I'm not sure as president I'm going to dance with the swords.

Speaker 72 Yeah, I don't know what to do because I mean, you know, it is one of those things. You're being honored.
They're telling you these are our wonderful traditions. They mean so much to us.

Speaker 72 Thank you so much for coming. It's so important that you're involved in this.
And yeah, you can say no, I guess, but it's a tough spot. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 72 No one seems to be able to actually pull off a no out of that. I mean, it's just a matter of whether the press decides to mock you for it afterwards.

Speaker 72 Which is funny because they're the same people who are telling us how important it is to be multicultural and understand diversity of people's different customs.

Speaker 97 Like any American, like, like, you know, like

Speaker 75 name a news person.

Speaker 80 I hate to stick Jake Tapper out because he's a nice guy and tries to be honest.

Speaker 75 Name a

Speaker 26 lot of

Speaker 27 Lester Holt.

Speaker 7 I mean, you think Lester Holt's going to look good dancing with swords?

Speaker 56 No, no.

Speaker 56 Nobody's going to look good dancing with swords.

Speaker 72 I think you're right on that.

Speaker 72 And I think it's a, but it's funny because that is the type of thing that the the enlightened liberal does right you're in the city you go to some festival in some area of town where the the the the dumb tourists don't go and you go and you participate in an authentic event in Brooklyn

Speaker 72 And then like

Speaker 72 now you know, you know Trump or Bush or whatever Republican goes to the actual authentic event in the actual country and participates in it. They just get mocked for it because they look like morons.

Speaker 72 You're an idiot. Look, I can't believe you dance like that.
Well, that's the thing that you would praise it in any other circumstance.

Speaker 72 Bodge, I mean, that's the world we live in.

Speaker 8 They'll go ahead and dance at a gay pride parade with the buttocks removed from the back of their pants, and that's fine.

Speaker 15 That's perfectly fine.

Speaker 93 Well, we found out this weekend that

Speaker 58 we knew this to be true.

Speaker 55 If you praise them and you pretend to be one of them, they'll go for anything.

Speaker 54 This is perhaps the greatest proof on how much gender studies is just a crock.

Speaker 37 There is a fake article that has been now published in a respected peer-reviewed journal.

Speaker 84 They had it for a month.

Speaker 16 They sent it back and said, no, you need some more examples in this.

Speaker 104 And the authors were like, oh, okay.

Speaker 105 They put some more examples in, sent it off.

Speaker 106 It was published.

Speaker 72 Now,

Speaker 88 here's the authors changed their names

Speaker 21 and they submitted this paper.

Speaker 54 And I just want to tell you just a little bit here.

Speaker 43 We didn't try to make the paper coherent.

Speaker 54 Instead, we stuffed it full of jargon like discursive.

Speaker 108 and

Speaker 75 ismorphism, nonsense, like arguing that hyper-masculine men are both inside and outside of certain discourses at the same time.

Speaker 111 We added red flag phrases like pre-post patriarchal society,

Speaker 67 lewd references to slang terms for the penis, insulting phrases regarding men, including referring to some men who have chosen not to have children as being unable to coerce a mate,

Speaker 107 And allusions to rape.

Speaker 4 We stated that man spreading, a complaint levied against men for sitting with their legs spread apart, is akin to, quote, raping the empty space around him.

Speaker 40 After completing the paper, we read it carefully to ensure it didn't say anything meaningful.

Speaker 43 And as neither one of us could determine what it was actually about, we deemed it a success.

Speaker 106 I'm going to give you a little bit of the paper, The Conceptual Penis as a Social Construct.

Speaker 81 The

Speaker 80 hoax on gender studies

Speaker 97 that proves these eggheads have absolutely no clue as to what they're actually talking about.

Speaker 98 We'll do that coming up in a second.

Speaker 115 This is the Glen Beck program, Program.

Speaker 115 Mercury.

Speaker 30 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

Speaker 10 I just, I love this. This is a hoax

Speaker 6 done by two academics who are tired of the academics who think they know everything and are

Speaker 69 perpetrating what they think is a scam of gender studies.

Speaker 58 They wrote a paper, The Penis as a Social Construct for Gender Studies, and they were trying to get it published.

Speaker 69 And they intentionally, they said if one of us understood it, we would write a paragraph. And if one of us understood it, then they'd have to change it until it absolutely made no sense at all.

Speaker 67 So here are some of the examples.

Speaker 54 In this double peer-reviewed study,

Speaker 9 double peer-reviewed study that got high marks.

Speaker 75 We conclude that penises are best

Speaker 119 not best understood as the male sexual organ or as the male reproductive organ, but instead as an enacted social construct that is both damaging and problematic for society and future generations.

Speaker 18 The conceptual penis presents significant problems for gender identity and reproductive identity within social and family dynamics.

Speaker 67 It's exclusionary to disenfranchised communities based upon gender or reproductive identity.

Speaker 78 It's an enduring source of abuse for women and other gendered

Speaker 93 marginalized groups and individuals.

Speaker 67 It is the universal performance source of rape and the conceptual driver behind much of climate change.

Speaker 33 Okay.

Speaker 35 Toxic hypermasculinity derives its significance directly from the conceptual penis and applies itself to supporting neo-capitalist materialism, which is a fundamental driver of climate change, especially in the rampant use of carbon-emitted fossil fuel technologies and careless domination of virgin natural environments.

Speaker 105 We need not delve deeply into criticisms of dialectic objectivism or their relationships with masculine tropes like the conceptual penis to make effective criticism of exclusionary dialectic objectivism.

Speaker 90 All perspective matters.

Speaker 58 They write, if you're having trouble understanding what any of this means, there are two important things to remember.

Speaker 13 First, we don't understand it and we wrote it.

Speaker 56 Nobody does.

Speaker 34 This problem should have rendered it unpublishable in all peer-reviewed academic journals.

Speaker 70 Second, these examples are remarkably lucid

Speaker 70 compared to much of the rest of the paper. Here's another paragraph from it.

Speaker 35 Inasmuch as masculinity

Speaker 109 is essentially performative, so too is the conceptual penis.

Speaker 54 The penis, in the words of Judith Butler, can only be understood through reference to what is barred from the signifier within the domain of corporeal legibility.

Speaker 119 The penis should not be understood as an honest expression of the performer's intent.

Speaker 71 Should it be presented in a performance of masculinity or hypermasculinity?

Speaker 86 Thus,

Speaker 24 isomorphism between the conceptual penis and what is referred to throughout discursive feminist literature as toxic hypermasculinity is one defined upon a vector of male cultural machismo, with the conceptual penis playing the roles of subject, object, and verb of action.

Speaker 58 The result of this trichotomy of roles is to place the hypermasculine men both within and outside of competing discourses,

Speaker 58 whose dynamics, as seen via post-structuralist discourse analysis, enact a systematic interplay of power, which the hyper-masculine men use the conceptual penis to move themselves from powerless subject to positions to powerful positions.

Speaker 69 They write, no one knows what any of this means because we made it up and it's complete nonsense.

Speaker 55 Anyone claiming to understand this is pretending full stop.

Speaker 13 Then they go into how they used a postmodern generator, a website coded in the 1990s

Speaker 58 from NYU, a physicist.

Speaker 54 It's a method of hoaxing cultural studies journal called social text.

Speaker 13 It returns a different fake postmodern paper every time the page is reloaded.

Speaker 97 We cited and quoted from the postmodern generator liberally.

Speaker 67 This includes nonsense quotations incorporated in the body of the paper, citing five different papers, all generated by this hoax generator.

Speaker 16 Five references to fake papers in journals that don't exist is astonishing on its own, but it's incredible given that the original paper we submitted only had 16 references total.

Speaker 67 It has 20 now after they asked for more examples.

Speaker 43 Nearly a third of our references in the original paper go to fake sources from a website, mocking the fact that this kind of thing is brainlessly possible.

Speaker 57 Two of the fake journals cited are deconstructions from elsewhere and/or press taken directly from the postmodern generator.

Speaker 54 Another cites the fictitious researcher S.Q.

Speaker 42 Scrameron,

Speaker 16 whose invented name appears in the body of the paper several times.

Speaker 40 In response, the reviewers noted that our references are sound, even after an alleged careful cross-referencing check done in the final round of editorial approval.

Speaker 35 No matter the effort they put into it, it appears one can simply

Speaker 25 one cannot simply jump

Speaker 25 a cogent social science shark.

Speaker 3 They

Speaker 17 tried

Speaker 84 hard

Speaker 27 to

Speaker 43 leave breadcrumbs all the way through.

Speaker 54 And they said the secret is

Speaker 122 just compliment and tell them how smart they all are.

Speaker 77 Yeah. And they'll buy into it.

Speaker 8 And use pre and post modern expressionism all along the way.

Speaker 14 Well, it's the pre-post modernism, that is, but it's so problematic.

Speaker 8 That's pretty amazing. That's pretty amazing.
And you know what?

Speaker 15 It's that kind of junk that our kids are learning and they don't understand it, but everybody pretends they understand it.

Speaker 6 And it gives, provides the cover for the professors to say whatever they want.

Speaker 70 And here's the proof of it right here.

Speaker 24 And nobody understands it.

Speaker 97 The Emperor has no clothes.

Speaker 97 The Glenn Beck Program.

Speaker 97 The Glenn Beck Program.

Speaker 97 Bill Cosby, they're picking the jury today

Speaker 109 as he goes to defend himself

Speaker 4 against 51 women who say he raped them.

Speaker 4 Here he is in one of his only interviews in the last few years.

Speaker 72 Am I right that you have not spoken publicly for over two years?

Speaker 72 This is true.

Speaker 72 I have not performed

Speaker 123 in over two years.

Speaker 123 I have not

Speaker 123 spoken at a graduation

Speaker 123 in two years, or even to speak to

Speaker 123 an incoming

Speaker 123 high school freshman or fresh person

Speaker 123 class to

Speaker 123 give them some idea of what they're going to face and what they ought to do.

Speaker 41 So, why now?

Speaker 41 Well, as you're listening to my daughter,

Speaker 41 so she doesn't mind listening to me.

Speaker 41 And

Speaker 41 I decided

Speaker 41 I think it's time for me to do something so that the people who

Speaker 123 still have faith in me, the people who are still wondering

Speaker 123 what I sound like as opposed to the National Enquirer,

Speaker 123 which is very interesting reading when they write

Speaker 123 about

Speaker 123 me.

Speaker 58 You need to hear now his defense.

Speaker 120 Now, so you know, he has

Speaker 35 been accused by 51 women of rape, drug-facilitated sexual assault, sexual

Speaker 18 battery, child sexual abuse, and sexual misconduct, with the earliest incidents taking place in the mid-1960s.

Speaker 122 The most recent is 2008.

Speaker 23 He's denied all of them.

Speaker 75 Many of them are outside of the statute of limitations for legal proceedings, but one of them, he was charged with three counts of aggravated indecent assault in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 67 He surrendered to authorities December 30th, 2015.

Speaker 61 He's out on a million dollars bail, and he is scheduled to have the trial start June 5th of this year.

Speaker 125 And he is there picking the jury beginning today.

Speaker 105 Here he is on

Speaker 57 what happened.

Speaker 100 Ensa delivered a statement of her own, and that's something else that's been provided to me.

Speaker 100 Here's just a short clip from what your daughter Ensa had to say.

Speaker 32 I strongly believe my father is innocent of the crimes alleged against him, and I believe that racism has played a big role in all aspects of this candle.

Speaker 72 Do you agree with that?

Speaker 72 Could be.

Speaker 2 Could be.

Speaker 115 I can't say anything,

Speaker 115 but there are certain

Speaker 115 things that I

Speaker 115 look at and I apply

Speaker 115 to the situation

Speaker 115 and

Speaker 123 it there are so many tentacles,

Speaker 123 so many different.

Speaker 45 This is bizarre.

Speaker 123 Nefarious is a great word. Yes, it is.

Speaker 123 And

Speaker 123 I just truly believe

Speaker 123 that

Speaker 123 some of it

Speaker 123 may very well be that.

Speaker 75 Do you believe any of that?

Speaker 100 But your accusers are both black and white.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 let me put it to you this way.

Speaker 2 When you look

Speaker 2 at

Speaker 2 the power structure,

Speaker 123 and when you look at individuals, there are some people who can very well

Speaker 123 be motivated by whether or not they're going to work

Speaker 33 whether or not they might

Speaker 33 be able to

Speaker 33 get back at someone.

Speaker 33 So if it's in terms of whatever their choice is,

Speaker 27 I think that you can also examine

Speaker 116 individuals and situations, and they will come out differently. So

Speaker 33 it's not all, not every.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 33 I do think that there's a lot of things.

Speaker 56 He's writing a paper for the peer-reviewed journal.

Speaker 33 Yes.

Speaker 39 Well, I mean, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 8 Very much like that.

Speaker 51 I mean, you don't even get a sense that he even believes this.

Speaker 54 He's basically explaining it saying, it's because I'm black.

Speaker 72 Yeah, I mean, I guess your best reading of this, and tell me if you think I'm wrong, but at the best reading is he doesn't think he's trying to, he's very much struggling with what he can and cannot say.

Speaker 72 Correct. So therefore, he can't make any sense.
And you're supposed to hopefully believe that if he could say it, it would make sense uh

Speaker 96 but i don't believe it i mean i don't believe he believes it his two daughters were the they recorded

Speaker 72 i forget how long now both of them recorded stuff about their dad and listening with him and talking he was telling stories and that's where you get her saying that it was you know he's innocent and it's because of racism it's interesting because they had sort of forwarded the opposite response and that it was people who always accuse everyone of racism didn't like him because he wasn't embracing the narrative that everyone that's white is racist.

Speaker 77 But he knows that's not going to help him in any.

Speaker 72 Well, it's the, I mean, the OJ thing is very similar. If you watched the 9,000 documentaries that came out last year on the OJ thing,

Speaker 72 almost all of them covered the fact that his initial instinct was not to go down the Johnny Cochran racism road.

Speaker 72 But it wasn't until he realized he might lose that he promoted cochran to the head of the team and went down the road of you know what it's just racism and when he started doing that it's when african americans started siding with him because initially they weren't because they saw him as a guy who was a sellout to black people his whole life he was the guy who in the 60s and 70s would not go with the black power movement he wanted no part of it his entire life And it wasn't until he saw, holy crap, I might lose this thing that he jumped on the bandwagon.

Speaker 72 And somehow it works.

Speaker 59 It feels very much like Bill Cosby.

Speaker 72 It does feel that way a little bit.

Speaker 65 Because Bill Cosby is the opposite.

Speaker 80 He never said these kinds of things.

Speaker 37 He never.

Speaker 15 Neither did O.J. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps.

Speaker 8 You can make it. James Brown and

Speaker 8 Jim Brown and

Speaker 8 Muhammad Ali tried to get him involved in the race movement. He just didn't want any part of it.
He really didn't want to mess up.

Speaker 72 He wanted to be known for that, which I actually, I mean, that's what I would rather have at an athlete.

Speaker 72 I mean, you know, I don't necessarily want my, you know, athletes and actors and everything else to be activists.

Speaker 3 It's just a

Speaker 18 explanation is coming from the guy who wrote Leonard Part VI.

Speaker 106 So I just

Speaker 39 want to throw that on a...

Speaker 72 Incoherence isn't exactly odd in the sense of

Speaker 43 the audio of how he explains 51.

Speaker 5 Do we have that audio?

Speaker 15 I'm not sure.

Speaker 27 I'm not sure if they found it yet.

Speaker 96 They're busy looking for it now. I just sent it to them.
It's really good. He tries to explain that they didn't have the

Speaker 96 total amount needed to bring him down so that the numbers were the numbers that weren't the right numbers before they got the pile on numbers.

Speaker 56 Here he is.

Speaker 33 The numbers came

Speaker 33 because

Speaker 33 the numbers

Speaker 33 prior to the numbers

Speaker 123 didn't work.

Speaker 33 What? Right. Oh.

Speaker 33 How did he say that?

Speaker 84 The numbers prior to the numbers didn't work.

Speaker 8 Because the numbers before the numbers didn't work.

Speaker 84 Those are the pre-post numbers.

Speaker 8 Well, those were the numbers afterwards, though.

Speaker 128 Right.

Speaker 8 Yeah, the before they got the numbers and then they got the numbers

Speaker 15 didn't work.

Speaker 72 We should try to

Speaker 72 apply with the actual just text of this interview for a peer-reviewed journal article.

Speaker 84 I would just like to also just say, again,

Speaker 9 Leonard Part 6,

Speaker 67 that was the first and only movie.

Speaker 22 He has a problem with numbers. Yeah, he does.

Speaker 15 He has a problem with numbers.

Speaker 72 His argument here is it's inflated, right?

Speaker 72 Like people, there was a few people who had courtesy, who were accused him of this a while ago, and now there's out there, a bunch of people are jumping on the bandwagon, and obviously they're motivated by other things.

Speaker 72 That's his question.

Speaker 67 And here's the problem. When you're a guy, do you have the Spanish Fly thing?

Speaker 25 When you're a guy who has been...

Speaker 55 recorded in comedy for your whole life,

Speaker 122 you end up saying things that you're like, oh, boy, that's not, that's going to leave a mark.

Speaker 32 When I was 13, man,

Speaker 32 start talking about weird things.

Speaker 76 No, really.

Speaker 32 Stand on the corner.

Speaker 26 You know anything about Spanish fly?

Speaker 27 What? Spanish fly.

Speaker 32 It always happens when you're 13. Only when you're 13, on up to like when you get married.
Guys stand around and talk about Spanish fly, and it never starts with one of the guys on the corner.

Speaker 32 It's always some strange 13-year-old who says, you know what? You know anything about Spanish fly? No, tell me about it. Well, there's this girl, Crazy Mary.
You put some in her drink, man.

Speaker 27 She goes,

Speaker 3 Yeah, Spanish. Oh, yeah, that's really groovy, man.
Spanish fly is groovy. Yeah, boy.

Speaker 32 From then on, man, anytime you see a girl...

Speaker 27 Who's yours on Spanish fly?

Speaker 32 Go to a party, see five girls standing alone.

Speaker 83 Boy, buy the whole jug of Spanish fly and light that corner up over there.

Speaker 32 So I thought it only existed in Philadelphia, you know, and I'm working on ISPY and Bob and I are working together. Sheldon Linnet comes up, says, Boys, I Spy is going to Spain.

Speaker 56 A childhood dream come true.

Speaker 65 Somehow or another, not quite as funny.

Speaker 27 Not really.

Speaker 115 This is

Speaker 30 the Glen Beck Program.

Speaker 33 Mercury.

Speaker 116 The Glen Beck Program.

Speaker 35 I mean, there was a time.

Speaker 39 Do you remember the My Brother Russell?

Speaker 24 Do you remember that

Speaker 39 piece that he did, My Brother Russell?

Speaker 131 My Brother Russell, he thought he was smart, but Russell was really dumb because...

Speaker 131 He started laughing at my father one time at the dinner table, and Russ didn't know how tough Dad really was. He was just sitting there giggling at my father.

Speaker 33 Dad,

Speaker 27 he

Speaker 131 see, Russell hadn't been with us too long,

Speaker 6 so I said, Russ,

Speaker 131 don't laugh at dad

Speaker 131 because dad will pick up a tree and kill you.

Speaker 115 So Russ said, I can't help it, buddy. Just won't funny.

Speaker 94 So you better cut it off.

Speaker 30 And Russ started laughing.

Speaker 30 And he had a funny laugh.

Speaker 115 He's like,

Speaker 33 And my friend said, What the hell's wrong with Russell?

Speaker 33 And finally, Russell said, You look funny, Dad.

Speaker 33 You got a funny looking face.

Speaker 132 Daddy said, You think my face is funny? You keep laughing at me. I'll smack your face off.

Speaker 115 And Russ looked at him, you smacked my face off.

Speaker 132 I said, Russ, please cool it. I'd hate to see you get hit.
And besides, he may

Speaker 87 Jeez.

Speaker 111 What happened?

Speaker 39 He may miss and hit me.

Speaker 52 He was tremendous.

Speaker 96 I think that's one of the reasons that he did the interview is that

Speaker 96 because people remember Bill Cosby, right?

Speaker 96 The people remember that it's Bill Cosby. That's the guy that we all grew up loving.

Speaker 113 Okay, so remember we had the

Speaker 104 creator of Priceline on last week.

Speaker 109 So we go back to my office and we're talking, and he said

Speaker 103 he said, you know, sometimes fate works in your favor.

Speaker 110 Sometimes, you know, life just turns out all right, even though you think it's a disaster.

Speaker 58 He said, when we started Priceline, he said,

Speaker 68 you know, we had no money and who were we going to get?

Speaker 57 And he said, I called and called and called and called.

Speaker 65 Bill Cosby.

Speaker 106 And he said, we wanted Bill Cosby so bad.

Speaker 113 Bill was huge.

Speaker 74 And we wanted Bill Cosby because he would appeal to everyone.

Speaker 16 And he said, he wanted $2 million,

Speaker 71 which was nothing to Priceline now. We wanted Bill Cosby for $2 million.

Speaker 69 And he said, you know, we didn't have anything.

Speaker 90 And I said, look, you know, maybe we give you a piece of the company or something.

Speaker 103 They hang up.

Speaker 35 He said, so I meet with William Shatner.

Speaker 106 Go from Bill Cosby to William Shatner.

Speaker 14 Another icon, though.

Speaker 83 And I love Bill Shatner.

Speaker 63 I think William Shatner is hysterical, very self-aware and very smart.

Speaker 125 And he said, you know, so we went, I went to New York and

Speaker 103 I met with him and he said, we were having dinner and Bill Shatner's thing was, okay, come on, tell me, really?

Speaker 119 You really think this internet thing is going to go?

Speaker 65 For as futuristic as Bill Shatner was, he asked the priceline guy when they were starting, come on, really?

Speaker 15 You think this, you think the internet thing has a future?

Speaker 14 Amazing.

Speaker 72 Wow. It did too, right?

Speaker 33 It did.

Speaker 22 It wound up having a future.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 8 I've heard that some people use it.

Speaker 129 Yeah, they do. Is that true?

Speaker 15 They do, yes.

Speaker 8 And now, isn't Shatner's daughter in on that too? She's doing Priceline now, I think.

Speaker 27 Right. Wow.

Speaker 72 Anytime between 2002 and 2008, you could have bought Priceline stock at about $20.

Speaker 72 That is now $18.25.

Speaker 27 Wow.

Speaker 72 90 times

Speaker 72 the amount of money.

Speaker 31 Not $18 and then

Speaker 72 $1,825.

Speaker 27 You could have

Speaker 72 $80 times your money.

Speaker 25 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 12 Yes. So I think this internet thing has a future.

Speaker 27 Yes.

Speaker 13 Better than if you would have invested in jello pudding pops.

Speaker 115 Just say that.

Speaker 115 This is the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 115 Mercury.

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Speaker 105 CNN has an expose

Speaker 21 that

Speaker 102 defines

Speaker 25 what the problem is with the mainstream media.

Speaker 55 It is the definition of the problem.

Speaker 16 And also news that just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 35 Billy Bush.

Speaker 12 Billy Bush is speaking out now for the first time since he's, you know, he had the bus ride with Donald Trump.

Speaker 13 When that broke in October,

Speaker 23 just a couple of days before the debate, kind of an interesting

Speaker 21 interesting perspective coming from Billy Bush on that.

Speaker 7 Also, the president in the Middle East doing a great job.

Speaker 117 Maybe we could have a week without something big happening.

Speaker 97 It would be nice. This could be the week.
Welcome to it, America. It's Monday.

Speaker 25 We begin right now.

Speaker 25 I will make a stand.

Speaker 25 I will raise my voice. I will hold your hand.
Cause we have won. I will be my drum.

Speaker 25 I have made my choice. We will overcome.

Speaker 25 Cause we are one.

Speaker 25 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 12 Hello, America.

Speaker 66 Billy Bush won't say anything about NBC.

Speaker 58 He walked away with a multi-million dollar settlement from NBC.

Speaker 29 But he said NBC knew about the tape that featured him and Donald Trump discussing women in a crude matter in 2005.

Speaker 60 Why is it his fault?

Speaker 55 Many question the leaking of the timing of the leak.

Speaker 25 Speculating politics played a role in

Speaker 38 the release of the years-old recordings.

Speaker 110 Of course it did.

Speaker 101 No, I think they just found it and just released it.

Speaker 72 I had no idea it was even running.

Speaker 37 NBC News and their crocodile outrage.

Speaker 34 We're so disappointed with Billy.

Speaker 58 I think Billy was angry, notwithstanding his own own devils to reckon with.

Speaker 66 You build an identity and reputation over 15 years and you lose it over 15 hours and you don't get to be a part of it.

Speaker 55 You don't get to say, hey, wait a minute.

Speaker 109 Billy Bush admitted to the Hollywood Reporter that he would have liked to have the chance to address his Today Show viewers as the scandal broke.

Speaker 25 I would have welcomed addressing the audience.

Speaker 21 After the tape leaked, Bush was bragging about the existence of the recording of a conversation between him and Trump.

Speaker 55 I never shared knowledge of the tape with anyone who didn't already know of its existence, and that was plenty of people.

Speaker 29 NBC didn't return calls for requests to comment on

Speaker 75 what the network may have known about the tape.

Speaker 72 A couple of fascinating parts of this. Number one, he found out the tape was being leaked while he was sitting on the tarmac about to take off for a flight.

Speaker 72 And so he was in the air for the six hours after with Wi-Fi, but nothing else he can do.

Speaker 14 Right.

Speaker 72 He's reading on the reports come down as his career is crumbling. He's just in the air to Los Angeles.

Speaker 27 Wow.

Speaker 72 That is an unbelievable thing. And I love his, his, is, is, is it, his talking about it is kind of interesting.

Speaker 72 Um, he said, uh, when, uh, he, when he wanted to do this tape, obviously he's watching tape, he's only seen it three times in his life.

Speaker 102 One time three days before the tape broke.

Speaker 72 So he was re-alerted to it, right, before it broke.

Speaker 72 And then twice just preparing for the Hollywood reporter interview. So he's only seen it three times in his life.

Speaker 72 He said, looking back upon what was said on that bus, I wish I could have changed the topic. Trump liked TV and competition.

Speaker 72 I could have said, can you believe the ratings on whatever, but I didn't have the strength of character to do it.

Speaker 72 And that's really what you get from that tape is that he's

Speaker 45 just like

Speaker 72 he's going along with it.

Speaker 72 He's not taking a big stand

Speaker 72 and

Speaker 72 trying to derail it or say that he's doing some wrong thing.

Speaker 136 He's just pistol, though.

Speaker 72 He's just playing along with it. He doesn't want to cause any controversy.

Speaker 13 He's not like egging him on all that much. He's just kind of just going along with it.

Speaker 72 And it's weird that his career basically is destroyed over this tape. And the other guy in the story who's actually saying all the stuff is the president.
It's really kind of amazing.

Speaker 74 It's very bizarre.

Speaker 72 You could argue, I know a lot of people would, that Trump, you know, was a locker room talk or whatever, and he should have been forgiven for it. And that's fine.

Speaker 3 If that's true, however, definitely so should Billy Bush.

Speaker 72 Like Billy Bush should not be paying a price for this if Trump's going to be president of the United States, right? I mean, it certainly wasn't released to target Billy Bush.

Speaker 27 It was released.

Speaker 33 It would have targeted Donald Trump.

Speaker 35 But it would have been the same.

Speaker 22 If Billy Bush would have been on Fox,

Speaker 58 he wouldn't have been fired.

Speaker 77 Well, he might have been because of everything else that was going on at that time.

Speaker 22 At that time, at that time,

Speaker 109 he wouldn't have fired him.

Speaker 69 And so

Speaker 21 it all comes down to politics.

Speaker 54 If this tape were about

Speaker 55 Barack Obama, NBC wouldn't have fired Billy Bush because it would have meant that they were admitting that they think what the president did was wrong and they would hold that line of no.

Speaker 118 I mean, it's like Anderson Cooper said, you know, to somebody this last weekend,

Speaker 39 you could take a dump on your desk and you'll defend it.

Speaker 4 The same thing with Barack Obama.

Speaker 49 He could have stood up on your desk and taken a dump on your desk and you would have been fine with it.

Speaker 74 Oh my gosh, he is the greatest.

Speaker 54 Look at what he just gave me.

Speaker 117 He just left this on my desk.

Speaker 99 It is fantastic.

Speaker 15 And a nice thing. It smells good.

Speaker 39 It's good.

Speaker 71 And I'm keeping it for my children.

Speaker 33 I mean,

Speaker 33 it would have happened.

Speaker 40 And nobody is recognizing that.

Speaker 35 Billy Bush is the victim of this.

Speaker 43 And personally, I mean, I think the whole thing, and those are not guys I want to be hanging around.

Speaker 75 Right.

Speaker 65 Okay.

Speaker 58 So I think the whole thing is bad.

Speaker 47 But as you look at this, Billy Bush is the victim of NBC not liking Donald Trump.

Speaker 72 That's true. As far as repercussions, you're right.
Of course, as I think he would admit and seems to have understand that he's a victim of himself for doing things he shouldn't have done.

Speaker 39 Oh my gosh, he shouldn't have done this.

Speaker 72 So he is, I think at that point, certainly Netty's taking responsibility. It's just amazing what politics will do for you.
Right.

Speaker 72 Like, I mean, Donald Trump is the, he's currently going across the globe as the most powerful man in the world.

Speaker 72 The The other guy who's just the reporter and kind of going along, sort of, with the conversation flow, but not really adding anything to it, is doing the apologetic interviews to the Hollywood reporter trying to get his career back.

Speaker 72 I mean, that's incredible.

Speaker 27 Pretty weird.

Speaker 115 Yeah.

Speaker 72 And again, you know, how old was Billy Bush at the time of that interview?

Speaker 15 I mean, 12.

Speaker 14 12. 13, maybe.

Speaker 72 I mean, it was 2005. I don't know how old Billy Bush is, but he was young, a young reporter.
Donald Trump is a huge personality.

Speaker 70 He's 24 now, so he's 20 years old.

Speaker 55 And you're on an entertainment show.

Speaker 16 You're on an entertainment show.

Speaker 55 It's not like you're doing, you know.

Speaker 72 Right. Like, he just wants to get a good interview and get out of there.

Speaker 76 You could.

Speaker 58 Yeah, the problem with Billy Bush was the fact that he was trying to set him up with the girl.

Speaker 67 For him to sit through the girl.

Speaker 72 Give Donald a hug. Give Donald a hug.

Speaker 84 Yeah,

Speaker 38 that was really bad.

Speaker 72 And apparently he didn't really realize how bad it was until I guess his daughters found out about it and called him and went crying. Oh, no.
can you imagine?

Speaker 14 Yeah,

Speaker 72 that's bad. That's a fact.
I mean,

Speaker 8 the human.

Speaker 15 Punishment enough right there.

Speaker 14 Yeah. Oh, my God.
Can you imagine those?

Speaker 8 That is punishment.

Speaker 72 It's like, and these are fascinating thoughts.

Speaker 42 Daughters call crying about really. Horrible.

Speaker 128 Why did you do that?

Speaker 56 How did you do that?

Speaker 8 Yeah, that'd be bad.

Speaker 81 Oh.

Speaker 72 Has that ever happened to you, Jeffy?

Speaker 27 Oh, my God.

Speaker 27 How many times has that happened to you, Jeffy?

Speaker 28 I'm trying to think if anything like that has ever happened.

Speaker 75 Yeah, kind of.

Speaker 98 Kind of. This has happened kind of to me.

Speaker 57 Really?

Speaker 56 With, yeah, with

Speaker 98 a misunderstanding.

Speaker 119 Hannah's school was preaching that I was an anti-gay bigot.

Speaker 68 And

Speaker 55 my,

Speaker 135 you know,

Speaker 99 I'm not.

Speaker 119 I mean,

Speaker 99 I was for gay marriage in a libertarian sense long before Barack Obama came to the realization of it.

Speaker 72 From a very non-libertarian standpoint.

Speaker 109 From a very non-libertarian, the state controls everything.

Speaker 43 I don't think the state controls marriage.

Speaker 137 But

Speaker 79 she had really hard times.

Speaker 89 In college, in New York, when I was at the apex of

Speaker 43 the center of the eye of the hurricane, that was not good for her.

Speaker 38 And they would,

Speaker 9 I mean, they made her cry a lot,

Speaker 68 you know, in school.

Speaker 99 And all because.

Speaker 72 Luckily, you were paying for that privilege. Yeah,

Speaker 98 but, you know, she would, she came to me one time, do you remember the show I did on Rockefeller Center?

Speaker 85 And I did a show on Rockefeller Center on the art of Rockefeller Center.

Speaker 29 And I said, look, I think this is a temple to man and a temple to money, temple to capitalism,

Speaker 58 and the strong, the strength of the authoritarian state.

Speaker 85 I think it is the opposite of, you know, I think this is our kind of our

Speaker 43 temple of evil.

Speaker 85 Okay. I love Rockefeller Center.

Speaker 88 I love the art and the architecture, but there is a story behind it.

Speaker 84 And the story is they were leaning fascist when the thing was built, right?

Speaker 8 And they wanted to, they honored like Mussolini.

Speaker 74 Mussolini was on the front of the Italian building.

Speaker 91 I mean, you know,

Speaker 21 they took that off.

Speaker 74 It was,

Speaker 58 what's her name with the Unibrow

Speaker 61 Frida.

Speaker 119 Her husband was a huge communist and inside of the lobby was this huge communist art that was commissioned and destroyed only because it showed Rockefeller as a virus.

Speaker 82 Okay.

Speaker 69 And so this whole thing, and I laid it out on an episode of Fox.

Speaker 122 Well, one of her professors, you know, took me apart and said, you know, he doesn't even know, not knowing that she was my daughter.

Speaker 37 He doesn't know and just mocking me and ridiculing me.

Speaker 29 And

Speaker 119 she came to me and she said,

Speaker 76 Dad,

Speaker 106 how sure are you on that?

Speaker 104 And I said, oh, I'm absolutely positive.

Speaker 74 You have really good sources on that?

Speaker 62 I said, I have the best sources.

Speaker 37 And she said,

Speaker 72 The best words and the best sources.

Speaker 122 Yeah.

Speaker 134 And she said, okay.

Speaker 58 She went, she told her professor, I want to do my final paper on the art of Rockefeller Center.

Speaker 68 And

Speaker 137 he said, oh, great.

Speaker 59 Glad you'll pick that up.

Speaker 89 She said, can you recommend any books or any sources?

Speaker 55 And he said, there's only one source that's credible.

Speaker 113 It is the authoritative book on Rockefeller Center.

Speaker 39 She came home.

Speaker 137 And she said, Dad,

Speaker 86 what book?

Speaker 43 Because I had told her, there's only one book, only one book.

Speaker 76 What book?

Speaker 122 And I went to my bookshelf and I pulled it out.

Speaker 66 And she's like, oh, thank you, Dad.

Speaker 27 It was the same.

Speaker 138 Same book.

Speaker 52 He hadn't even read it. Of course.

Speaker 27 He hadn't even read it.

Speaker 84 It was, it's all in there.

Speaker 54 And this was the source that he was using to ridicule me.

Speaker 34 But if you had read the book,

Speaker 3 you would know.

Speaker 27 You were right.

Speaker 72 That was such a great, because it was not just a professor, the media was beating you up like crazy over that and what was so great about it was

Speaker 72 they thought you were wrong on that solely because Glenn Beck couldn't be right on it it had nothing no one was trying to say like your facts were wrong or your sources were bad it was just that you couldn't possibly be making a coherent point on this topic then when we released the source of the information

Speaker 72 people just stopped talking about it right if i'm correct glenn if i remember this story right i think you bought the book at rockefeller Center. I may have.
Probably. I think so.

Speaker 36 It's the only credible book on Rockefeller Center, on the art of Rockefeller Center.

Speaker 109 It's like, I don't know, a thousand pages, and it's the only credible book.

Speaker 35 And it is, and it tells the whole story.

Speaker 3 It tells the whole story.

Speaker 84 It's all there.

Speaker 8 I have 17 books on the art of Rockefeller Center, just not that one.

Speaker 8 All mine are not credible.

Speaker 81 Yeah. No.

Speaker 14 Yours are all written by Infowars.

Speaker 27 That is a weird place.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 27 Okay, can I change the subject here?

Speaker 43 I want to go to CNN and then we're going to take a quick break.

Speaker 63 Let me show you something.

Speaker 93 This is why nobody is paying attention to the news.

Speaker 54 Why they will.

Speaker 34 The president will be able to kill somebody on Fifth Avenue, and everyone will support him that has supported him already because of this.

Speaker 120 CNN,

Speaker 16 what are you doing?

Speaker 107 If you're trying trying to be fair and you're trying to get people to listen to you,

Speaker 22 then why do you have this as a story today?

Speaker 39 Headline.

Speaker 40 Trump's casino was a money laundering concern shortly after it opened.

Speaker 55 Jose Pagleri, CNN, investigates.

Speaker 40 So they have an investigator, investigative journalist, looking into Donald Trump's

Speaker 111 1990s tax records at his casino.

Speaker 54 Now, the story is, is that they didn't alert authorities to people who came in and cashed in $10,000 or more of chips.

Speaker 55 You cash them in, then they need to know who is that so they can check if anything's being money laundered.

Speaker 54 Well, the IRS already caught that years ago in the 90s. It already caught that.
They already exposed exposed it.

Speaker 51 It was already investigated.

Speaker 91 It was already in the news.

Speaker 102 He paid a fine.

Speaker 55 They moved on.

Speaker 51 How is this an investigative story today?

Speaker 45 27

Speaker 54 years later.

Speaker 24 How is that a story?

Speaker 35 That is a story of, well, he's not making any news today where he looks bad.

Speaker 56 Let's go with this.

Speaker 34 It is absolutely.

Speaker 8 This is is what they do, though, isn't it?

Speaker 15 I mean,

Speaker 8 there was a story over the weekend about a study done by Harvard. They did an extensive study on all the major networks, news coverage, and the cable news networks and

Speaker 8 the major newspapers that cover Trump. 80%

Speaker 8 of all stories were negative spin on Trump. So it's 80-20.
And

Speaker 8 I think it's the most negative coverage of all time.

Speaker 8 And they said even Fox News was more negative than positive, which is hard to believe, but it was 5248 negative to positive with Fox.

Speaker 109 Well, they will say it's because he's done so many negative things.

Speaker 113 Yeah.

Speaker 80 And I agree with you that he's done a lot of negative things, but it's this kind of stuff.

Speaker 62 That adds fuel to the fire.

Speaker 7 That just shows you have an axe to grind.

Speaker 67 So it makes me not listen and believe you when you say he really has real problems.

Speaker 13 And it's saying he's a hypocrite because he bowed to the Saudi prince when he did nothing of the kind.

Speaker 3 He did not bow.

Speaker 98 And here's what's happening: the Forgotten Man.

Speaker 91 Have you heard what happened in Flint, Michigan, and what the water company was doing in Flint, Michigan?

Speaker 8 They were going to take people's homes.

Speaker 3 Again, they're not paying their water bill. Now,

Speaker 54 I'll give you this story here in just a second.

Speaker 1 Glennbach program.

Speaker 116 Triple-8-727 back.

Speaker 115 Mercury.

Speaker 115 The Glend Back Program.

Speaker 12 What's happening in Flint, Michigan is really, truly obscene.

Speaker 70 Up until four days ago, if you didn't pay your water bill, they were going to foreclose on your house.

Speaker 85 8,000 people were going to lose their house.

Speaker 58 Now, in case you don't know, it might be because, oh, the news media is focusing on Donald Trump's casino from 30 years ago.

Speaker 93 What's happening in Flint, Michigan is an outrage.

Speaker 70 Here's this water company that still has not fixed the poison water.

Speaker 46 It's poison.

Speaker 121 Poison.

Speaker 8 So people stop paying their bill because I'm not paying for poisoned water.

Speaker 15 Wouldn't you be that way?

Speaker 33 Yes.

Speaker 3 That would absolutely be that way.

Speaker 65 Yeah, my hair falls out.

Speaker 51 My children have been poisoned from it. Yeah.

Speaker 14 I'm not paying you.

Speaker 8 Not paying you. So they're going to take 8,000 people's homes from them until they voted last week to do a moratorium for a year.

Speaker 105 So they're going to take them next year.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 24 I don't know about you, but I think this is an American outrage.

Speaker 136 It is.

Speaker 49 Where we should all be standing with the people of Flint, Michigan, and saying they should not have to pay for poison water.

Speaker 115 The Glenbeck program.

Speaker 87 Mercury.

Speaker 2 This is the Glenbeck program.

Speaker 116 Sign up for the newsletter and get all the info you need to know at Glenbeck.com.

Speaker 25 So I think we have

Speaker 125 we've decided not to put our kids back into school.

Speaker 39 You know, if anybody's been following this, it's been a remarkable journey trying to get our kids into a school here in Texas.

Speaker 96 Just like you, school's not good enough.

Speaker 99 No, school's good enough for your kids.

Speaker 43 No, that's actually not the way it is.

Speaker 8 My school was good enough.

Speaker 13 All right,

Speaker 77 we're not good enough for the schools, apparently, because of our faith.

Speaker 29 We've been turned down by the two schools.

Speaker 127 One of them I really wanted to go to, one of the kids to go to.

Speaker 122 I think it's just an outstanding school.

Speaker 121 And I don't hold this against them because it is against their charter.

Speaker 113 They have to agree with

Speaker 110 all of the principles of the church that they have the kids coming into.

Speaker 118 And so

Speaker 9 they are relentless on that.

Speaker 58 And they reject other faiths, not just mine.

Speaker 67 And it's a private thing.

Speaker 110 So I don't think that's bigoted.

Speaker 55 I think they are following their charter.

Speaker 127 And they really spent time

Speaker 63 with us and, you know, time with their board of directors and everything else.

Speaker 78 And then this other school,

Speaker 58 I mean, it was incredible.

Speaker 68 We went in, we met with the founder.

Speaker 104 First thing I said was, okay, we're Mormon.

Speaker 78 Is this going to be a problem?

Speaker 9 No, no, of course not.

Speaker 85 Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 28 We talk about it.

Speaker 121 Then when it comes to registering the kids, we get a call.

Speaker 29 Ah, you know, we can't guarantee that the kids are going to not going to be made fun of, you know, because of the, I'm crazy, crazy, right?

Speaker 84 Crazy.

Speaker 22 And we're like, well,

Speaker 63 I mean, this is a Christian school.

Speaker 13 Shouldn't you be able to say to the kids, hey, don't make fun of people for what they believe?

Speaker 90 Or, I mean, we don't do that.

Speaker 97 Well, we can't really, you know, guarantee.

Speaker 99 Well, I'm not asking you for a guarantee.

Speaker 57 Kids will be kids, but are you going to allow that?

Speaker 35 Well, that's why we just think it would be better if you just didn't come.

Speaker 14 Oh, okay. All right.

Speaker 33 So apparently, there is liberty going to allow it.

Speaker 39 Yeah, there is liberty and there is Christian in their name, and they don't seem to understand either of those.

Speaker 115 But it's a private school, and they make their own decisions.

Speaker 60 So,

Speaker 22 Tanya and I talked about it this

Speaker 91 weekend, and I want to put a call out for a teacher.

Speaker 89 I want to hire

Speaker 119 an unbelievable teacher, somebody that will teach the kids.

Speaker 68 And I mean,

Speaker 71 I want somebody really great and rigorous.

Speaker 104 And I want my kids to learn, you know,

Speaker 35 almost the catechism from the 1800s.

Speaker 104 I want my kids to

Speaker 103 be really engaged and being able to defend.

Speaker 66 any point of view, learn it and defend it.

Speaker 72 Yeah, they just watch Bill and I Saves the World on Netflix?

Speaker 27 No,

Speaker 14 No, no.

Speaker 27 That's not rigorous?

Speaker 14 No, that's not rigorous.

Speaker 3 No? No.

Speaker 15 And I hate the word rigorous.

Speaker 110 After going to school after school after school, they all say rigorous standards.

Speaker 72 This is a big thing in the school world right now.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 72 That's what they all say about Common Core, too.

Speaker 43 These are rigorous.

Speaker 88 Shut up.

Speaker 3 Shut up.

Speaker 72 That is their

Speaker 72 key.

Speaker 14 That is an absolute buzzword among schools in that education world right now.

Speaker 58 We have friends who are taking their kids out of school.

Speaker 122 One of the the good schools, we live in this town that has supposedly one of the best schools.

Speaker 97 You know, oh my gosh, their children are going to leave here at 13 and they're going to already have three years of Harvard under their belt.

Speaker 96 That's because of those rigorous standards.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 69 And it's one of those international baccalaureate.

Speaker 94 I went there.

Speaker 58 I mean, my head almost exploded.

Speaker 55 And if A, you want to talk about rinsing the kid right out of your kid?

Speaker 59 It's that.

Speaker 56 Immediately, it's,

Speaker 43 you know, college,

Speaker 85 you know, they, they kept saying, your kids will be doing a lot of homework.

Speaker 89 And, you know, sometimes they'll be doing homework till, you know, sometimes one in the morning.

Speaker 84 No, I don't think so.

Speaker 55 I don't think my kids are going to come home at four or five in the afternoon and then do homework until one o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 93 No, no, I don't think.

Speaker 42 No.

Speaker 56 I don't care.

Speaker 35 If that's what it takes for them to be successful, they're going to be miserable their whole life.

Speaker 22 No.

Speaker 68 And

Speaker 35 so we have a friend who goes, send their kids there, and they said, they've just sent their kids there a year.

Speaker 127 And they said their kids are all headed for a nervous breakdown.

Speaker 37 And they've seen a change in their kids, and they just don't want anything to do with it.

Speaker 27 Wow.

Speaker 15 So you're going to homeschool with a professional teacher at your house? Is that what you're thinking about doing?

Speaker 84 I'd like to.

Speaker 78 I'd like to, because they're, you know, they're, you know,

Speaker 103 13 and 11, almost 13 and 11.

Speaker 68 And

Speaker 78 I just, I want, I want somebody who is

Speaker 97 a really good generalist.

Speaker 68 And then maybe we'll augment with, you know,

Speaker 77 other things.

Speaker 38 But I want, I, I really, especially, I wish David Barton is around the building someplace.

Speaker 21 Um, but I wanted to talk to him about it because there's these, this catechism that we used to use.

Speaker 94 Have you ever tried to, do you guys ever seen the test that we have over at Mercury 1, the eighth grade catechism test

Speaker 58 you it's impossible first of all in eighth grade you had to have memorized the constitution the declaration of independence and george washington's farewell address those three things had to be recited by the eighth grade by every student not the constitution in its entirety right i mean that would i

Speaker 56 I'll have to ask David.

Speaker 15 I don't know.

Speaker 94 I think so.

Speaker 55 I know the Declaration of Independence and the other, and he told me the Constitution.

Speaker 63 So maybe it was just the Bill of Rights, but I don't think so.

Speaker 137 And then you had to have this, what's called a catechism test, which is

Speaker 105 you would have to defend everything that you learned.

Speaker 106 So

Speaker 98 I'm trying to think of some of the questions.

Speaker 74 But

Speaker 67 it was an oral test and you had to stand there and the teacher would ask you questions and you had to to defend everything that you learned.

Speaker 88 I went through this eighth grade test.

Speaker 82 There's no way I would have passed that.

Speaker 107 I think there's no way most people could pass it.

Speaker 14 No, no, not even. You've read it.

Speaker 78 I remember seeing it a while ago.

Speaker 72 It's crazy. Yeah, there's no way.
You don't even understand the questions. Right.
The words are so complicated. And I mean, you don't even understand.

Speaker 34 And we think that we're so smart and we've done such a great job of education.

Speaker 82 We've wrecked it.

Speaker 43 If that's really what an eighth grader could have done 120 years ago,

Speaker 51 there's nothing to compare to it now.

Speaker 72 And this is what we've talked about this before, but it's really now intelligence is who is better at Googling. That is how you are intelligent today.
It is not about knowing the information.

Speaker 72 It is about how to actually be able to manipulate the system of the internet to be able to get the knowledge when you need it.

Speaker 34 Which is really, really good.

Speaker 75 But then, again,

Speaker 105 do we actually know anything?

Speaker 72 I don't think you need to, right?

Speaker 72 This is the, and again, I don't agree with that idea, but I mean, that's what the argument is. You don't need to know it anymore.

Speaker 45 It's going to be that.

Speaker 43 But see, that's why I want catechism, because you have to be able to

Speaker 82 be able to argue what you know.

Speaker 43 It's, you're right.

Speaker 18 It doesn't matter what you know.

Speaker 54 I can Google what I don't know, but you have to be able to understand how that fits inside of you, inside of your values, your principles,

Speaker 92 what else you believe.

Speaker 72 We were talking off the air about Alex Jones because he's had to apologize yet again to another person who's suing him because he was telling is this the yogurt

Speaker 44 people

Speaker 35 another one of his big storylines that he just has this what was the deal with shibani yogurt they were bringing in refugees or something that were terrorists and rapists

Speaker 33 and the the yogurt people for some reason the yogurt people took took exception to that.

Speaker 33 Can you imagine that?

Speaker 44 Who are you to say you're not bringing refused to do?

Speaker 126 There's no fruit at the bottom. There's no fruit at the bottom.
That's all we care about.

Speaker 72 Yeah, totally unreasonable by Shabani to have a ton of people.

Speaker 27 And he defended it.

Speaker 8 At one point, and now all of us.

Speaker 72 Not only did he defend it at one point at the beginning, he also, after his trial, came out and talked to the press after the trial.

Speaker 72 This is after he had already apologized to the Pizza Place in the Pizzagate thing for being wrong about that.

Speaker 72 He came out out to the press and said he was right on the yogurt story, even then, and now again has had to apologize for it.

Speaker 8 The only thing that ever happened to Alex Jones was Donald Trump.

Speaker 112 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Because Trump lent him credibility because he's now the president, and he appears on Alex's show. And Alex is almost an advisor to the president now.

Speaker 44 And so people are paying attention to what he said when they never did before.

Speaker 3 Right. They just agreed.

Speaker 8 He would have been apologizing and being sued out of existence if this had happened years ago.

Speaker 14 But my point is.

Speaker 8 Because virtually nothing he says is true.

Speaker 84 Yeah.

Speaker 52 Very little.

Speaker 72 And my point on that, to bringing him up.

Speaker 128 Your opinion.

Speaker 3 In my humble opinion.

Speaker 3 And you think, you think, allegedly.

Speaker 126 You think the pizza place

Speaker 35 that doesn't have a basement isn't running children.

Speaker 8 That, by the way, was featured on Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives.

Speaker 92 Right.

Speaker 128 They're in it.

Speaker 15 A lot of years ago. They're in it.
CIT front.

Speaker 14 Right.

Speaker 78 The pizza looks actually really cool.

Speaker 26 And you think the yogurt place isn't bringing in rapists.

Speaker 56 I do think that.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 27 Okay. Whatever, Pat.

Speaker 14 You'd have to believe it.

Speaker 46 Anyway, so why did you bring this?

Speaker 45 So

Speaker 72 my point was

Speaker 72 that mindset, the Alex Jones thing, can't work in a world where people understand what was in that catechism test, right?

Speaker 72 It's only a place where people are searching for information on a whim whenever they hear about it, and they believe the first thing that shows up in search results, that that can flourish.

Speaker 72 The social media world is, it helps

Speaker 72 ridiculous conspiracy theorists like Jones because people, how many times have you heard this from people that you might even respect and know who just hear about a story?

Speaker 72 It's in the back of their head. They're not like, they're not journalists.
They're not sleuths on the internet. They just Google it.

Speaker 72 They see a story like, oh, wow, do you believe that Hillary Clinton had an earpiece in during that debate? And it's like, well, that's the end of their

Speaker 72 understanding. They don't look it back up.
It's just in their head as true from then forward.

Speaker 76 Headlines.

Speaker 21 usually just the headline.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 43 Okay.

Speaker 31 David actually is just walked into the studio.

Speaker 4 David, come in here.

Speaker 59 We're going to take a break and talk to him.

Speaker 28 See if he knows any of those eighth-grade tests off the top of his head.

Speaker 66 Because the questions,

Speaker 51 you'll never, I mean,

Speaker 51 you'll never get them.

Speaker 16 No eighth grader would get them today.

Speaker 16 We have one.

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Speaker 12 David Barton happens to be in. He's on the board of directors of Mercury One.

Speaker 68 And

Speaker 118 we're working on some really amazing projects that

Speaker 118 we'll tell you about as the days go forward.

Speaker 59 But David, real quick, we were just talking about,

Speaker 77 I'm going to put a post up today on Facebook about a teacher.

Speaker 110 And if you know a great, and I mean a great teacher, I'm looking to hire a teacher.

Speaker 89 I don't care where you are in the country.

Speaker 58 I would look for a great teacher for my kids.

Speaker 61 You know, you'd obviously have to work here.

Speaker 124 But

Speaker 71 I want somebody especially that knows

Speaker 55 the classic way of teaching.

Speaker 58 And I don't know, do people even know?

Speaker 35 Do teachers, do any teachers teach with rhetoric anymore?

Speaker 14 Or I mean not rhetoric anymore? There are some.

Speaker 73 There are some. There are classical schools, but what's even called classical education now? This is the classical way that was done for three centuries.
But there are those that do know.

Speaker 73 They know the catechisms. They know the rhetoric.
They know the classics, et cetera.

Speaker 91 so we were talking about did they have to memorize the constitution and

Speaker 73 no for the first eight years of school and remember back then eight years is all you went through eight years at eight years you went to college eight years let me tell you something after eight years of of that if that is your

Speaker 73 that's beyond a 12th grade exam well we will start the interns out this summer by giving them all an eighth grade X exam from 1920s we have yet in eight years to have one kid pass that test and so it's an eighth grade X exam from the 1820s, and that's as far as they went.

Speaker 73 Excuse me, 1920s. It said 1820.
Progressives changed it in 1920s. Until 1920s, you went only through the eighth grade.

Speaker 73 You usually only went two to three months a year for the first eight years of school. And we have yet to have a single person pass the 1920 eighth grade X exam.

Speaker 12 And these are college students.

Speaker 27 These are college kids.

Speaker 96 So they didn't have to memorize.

Speaker 73 No, what they did, for the first eight years of school, you took a written exam on the Declaration, the Constitution, Washington's farewell address, and the state Constitution.

Speaker 73 So you had to master it, but eight years,

Speaker 94 you touched it every year for eight years.

Speaker 27 So that's called spiraling. That's called spiraling.

Speaker 73 Spiraling is what you do with math. You learn addition, but you don't say, well, I learned it in first grade, I'll never again touch it.
You learn it in second grade, but you add subtraction.

Speaker 73 Then in third grade, you have addition, subtraction, and now let's add multiplication, then division. So you keep touching it, but you blow it up each time.

Speaker 73 What we do now in history is called tri-division, where then in fifth grade you get from Columbus through 1765, you'll never again touch that part of history.

Speaker 73 In eighth grade, you're going to get from 1765 through Reconstruction, 1876, but you never again touch that part.

Speaker 74 You can teach history that way. I mean,

Speaker 73 that's why nobody knows it today.

Speaker 58 When I teach history, I'm teaching somebody now.

Speaker 20 I'm teaching somebody, I'm trying to teach the Bible to somebody who has zero reference to the Bible, does not even know what Adam and Eve is.

Speaker 37 Doesn't know any.

Speaker 34 And so we started with the book of Genesis, and I only got

Speaker 60 this.

Speaker 43 Okay, so this is written by Moses.

Speaker 109 Now I have to tell you who Moses is.

Speaker 69 He has no idea who Moses is.

Speaker 62 So I have to tell him about Moses and had to talk to him about all of that before I could go back.

Speaker 49 I mean, you can't,

Speaker 34 on history, so many times, you just can't compartmentalize because somebody has been inspired by something that happened 100 years ago, you know, a thousand years ago.

Speaker 19 They pick it up.

Speaker 24 It's important to connect all that together.

Speaker 41 Yeah.

Speaker 13 David is with us.

Speaker 97 Mike Lee is joining us in just a second after the top of the hour.

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Speaker 34 I say this with all the love and respect due.

Speaker 59 We have super nerd Senator Mike Lee with us, the guy who gets excited about clauses in the Constitution.

Speaker 13 And that is something that you really want on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 13 Truly, one of the good guys, one of the few that we

Speaker 18 can truly trust and would leave our children alone with them, which I don't know if I leave anybody alone with my children nowadays.

Speaker 25 Mike Lee is here.

Speaker 43 Talk a little bit about the news of the day and also a new book that he has written that everybody should have on their shelf, written out of history: The Lost Stories of the Founding of Our Country.

Speaker 25 Mike Lee joins us right now.

Speaker 25 I will make a stand. I will raise my voice.
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Speaker 11 Senator Mike Lee.

Speaker 62 How are you, sir?

Speaker 17 Doing great. Thank you very much.

Speaker 10 It is always good to have you here.

Speaker 25 Good to be here.

Speaker 23 You're really one of the good guys in one of the worst times

Speaker 134 in the Senate and in the House, I think, in American history.

Speaker 127 I mean, this is probably one of the top three worst times, wouldn't you say?

Speaker 17 It's a tough time, to be sure. I tend to think it's a time of great opportunity.
There are a lot of good things that we can do with it. That we could do it, and I hope we will do.

Speaker 17 We do have to do them, and I hope that we will.

Speaker 35 Have you noticed that Congress hasn't been doing any of them?

Speaker 17 Look, Congress has done some good things. I mean, we passed 13 resolutions of disapproval under the Congressional Review Act undoing 13 late-breaking Obama-era regulations.

Speaker 17 Those have been passed by both Congresses, signed into law by the President. That is 13 times more than the number of previous iterations of an exercise of this power.

Speaker 17 that has ever taken place in the past. We confirmed Justice Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
That was a good thing. We still have to deliver on a whole lot of things.
We need to repeal Obamacare.

Speaker 17 We need to reform the tax code, among other things. And I'm pushing to make sure that happens.

Speaker 15 Are you worried at all?

Speaker 58 I mean, you know, we read stories about how

Speaker 29 people's town hall meetings for Congress are going.

Speaker 42 And they're not going to be.

Speaker 8 They're getting threatened with their...

Speaker 8 with their very lives by some of their constituents.

Speaker 8 They were just talking about how there's so much anger now that they're actually afraid and beefing up security.

Speaker 8 And I think some of that probably comes from Democrats showing up at these events, but some of it is just sheer frustration, I think, on the part of Republicans.

Speaker 33 Do you sense any of that?

Speaker 111 Yes.

Speaker 17 There is a lot of frustration.

Speaker 8 Because they were elected to do all of these things and the really substantive things that they haven't done yet.

Speaker 17 Yeah, that's right. This is one of the things that happens when you consolidate this much power in Washington.

Speaker 17 When you take just about everything government in general could conceivably do and you shift it to a federal government whose purpose was always supposed to be limited.

Speaker 17 And you end up with these huge regional divisions. You know, there's a lot of political diversity in this country, and you can, state by state, track

Speaker 17 a people's level of progressivism or conservatism or libertarianism according to region.

Speaker 17 When you tell everybody they have to live under the rules that everybody else makes, fewer people are getting the government they want. And this is what produces that kind of frustration.
So

Speaker 75 I know,

Speaker 109 at least I do,

Speaker 23 I'm frustrated because,

Speaker 28 you know, first we had to have the Senate, then we had to have the House.

Speaker 22 We had to have the House and the Senate.

Speaker 69 Then we had to have the House and the Senate and the White House.

Speaker 15 We have all three of those.

Speaker 68 And

Speaker 37 everyone was promised.

Speaker 55 I mean, I went kicking and screaming with Donald Trump, but he's our president.

Speaker 16 And, you know, I'm going to back him when I can.

Speaker 125 And I'd like some of the things that he's done or that he said to be done.

Speaker 57 And

Speaker 109 they're not going to, you guys are not going to repeal Obamacare.

Speaker 103 It's just not going to happen.

Speaker 43 The Republicans weren't serious about it at all.

Speaker 17 That part remains to be seen, Glund. I mean, what the House did with Obamacare was grossly inadequate.

Speaker 17 The biggest single problem with Obamacare, the epicenter of all the problems around Obamacare, have to do with these Title Title I health insurance regulations.

Speaker 17 They're what's making everything else in health insurance, in health care, more expensive.

Speaker 17 They're also the reason why the Democrats knew when they wrote the darn law that they were going to have to subsidize health care extensively.

Speaker 17 For that, they were going to have to raise taxes to pay for those subsidies, and they were going to have to have this individual mandate to try to mitigate further against the effects of these oppressive health care regulations.

Speaker 17 That's what we've got to repeal.

Speaker 78 What is Title I?

Speaker 17 Title I consists of regulations that most people don't know by name. They go by names like community rating, guaranteed issue, age rating, and so forth.

Speaker 17 The essential health benefits are also part of that package.

Speaker 17 If we would get the federal government out of the business of saying, here's what you absolutely have to provide if you're going to be in the health insurance business at all, you could have more competition.

Speaker 17 And with more competition, you bring down prices and you improve quality.

Speaker 59 Okay, but that includes

Speaker 23 preexisting conditions?

Speaker 17 Sure, but there are ways of dealing with the pre-existing condition issue without keeping Obamacare. There were holes in the pre-Obamacare status quo that prevented people from going,

Speaker 17 for example, from a group-sponsored health insurance plan to an independent plan or an independent individual plan to another independent individual plan.

Speaker 17 As long as somebody has coverage already, they ought to be able to transfer from one plan to another. Are there ways of filling those gaps without requiring us to keep Obamacare?

Speaker 8 Can you remove the individual mandate?

Speaker 17 Not only can we remove it, we have to remove it.

Speaker 3 This is

Speaker 15 still Obamacare if you don't, right?

Speaker 138 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 17 And this is understandably and appropriately

Speaker 17 one of the most unpopular provisions of the entire law, telling people that you've got to buy something.

Speaker 17 Health insurance, not just any health insurance, but that kind of insurance that Congress decided they had to buy.

Speaker 3 It has to go.

Speaker 72 I mean, standard thinking on this is that you, as the Senate generally, are not going to improve what the House did.

Speaker 72 You're going to make it worse for conservatives because the House got at least some of that stuff worked in with the Freedom Caucus, like their late demands. They didn't do all of it.

Speaker 72 But I mean, everyone's saying you guys are going to make it much worse.

Speaker 17 That is the fear, and that sometimes happens. It happens.
I am determined to not let that happen here.

Speaker 65 We can't mess this up.

Speaker 17 And we have to make sure that whatever we pass repeals more of Obamacare, most most of Obamacare, certainly more than what the House repealed in its version.

Speaker 50 Okay, so you look optimistic, Mike.

Speaker 17 I am optimistic. Why?

Speaker 33 Because

Speaker 27 great question.

Speaker 17 Enough of my colleagues, at least among my Republican colleagues in the Senate, understand this. They're hearing from constituents who say, look, this is killing us.

Speaker 17 We have health insurance, but we can't afford it. We can't afford to use it.
It does us no good. Everything is made more expensive by this law.
You've got to give us relief.

Speaker 17 And there's enough of an understanding that really what's behind all this are the oppressive federal regulations.

Speaker 17 You know, if you took any other industry, if you told everybody they had to buy a car, and then you said, but you can only buy that kind of car that the government says is appropriate.

Speaker 17 And then the government said, by the way, you have to buy something at least as nice and as expensive as a Cadillac. It's going to create some problems.
We've created a problem.

Speaker 17 with health care by federalizing it, by making a national standard.

Speaker 17 Even though there are vast differences nationally on what people want their government doing with healthcare, vast differences nationally in terms of how health care is delivered and how much it costs.

Speaker 17 It makes no sense to centralize all these decisions in Washington unless you're a progressive or unless you're a really big insurance company.

Speaker 72 Their argument, though, is that people are going to get this insurance if you repeal all the Title I stuff.

Speaker 72 And they're going to think they're insured, then they're going to have a health problem and they're not going to be insured for that thing.

Speaker 72 They're going to wind up paying for insurance and then when they need it, it's not going to be there.

Speaker 17 What I could point to is the continuity of coverage provisions that existed in federal law prior to Obamacare.

Speaker 17 There were some holes in that series of laws, but those are holes we can fill without having to keep Obamacare.

Speaker 27 So what would they do?

Speaker 17 What they would do is say, if you get health insurance, you can't be declined health insurance if you choose to continue to purchase health insurance simply because you've had a health condition that arose.

Speaker 72 Right, but

Speaker 72 if you buy a cheaper plan that covers less things,

Speaker 72 the average person isn't going to know all the details of it.

Speaker 72 And then they're going to go and have one of these issues, think they have coverage, get all the stuff done, submit it to insurance, and it's not going to pay for it.

Speaker 17 No, that's part of the process they'll have to undertake when they buy that insurance plan. But if you buy an insurance plan, you're buying insurance.

Speaker 17 You're buying something, which means you've at least got catastrophic coverage.

Speaker 17 If something really bad happens, you're covered for that thing.

Speaker 38 Mike, what gives you the belief that you have more spines in

Speaker 124 the Senate than in the House?

Speaker 28 And will this bill have to go back to the House afterwards?

Speaker 17 The answer to the second question is yes. The answer to the first question is

Speaker 17 whether you call it

Speaker 17 I'm not going to say that we necessarily have differences in our spinal columns between the House and the Senate. But the Senate was designed.

Speaker 17 George Washington described the Senate as he conceived it as the cooling saucer, the place where the hot tea would spill out and it would be given a chance to cool.

Speaker 17 We are a smaller body and because we are smaller we're able to go about things a little bit differently with more deliberation.

Speaker 17 And we are undertaking an aggressive review process of the Affordable Care Act and figuring out how to repeal it

Speaker 17 and how to move forward.

Speaker 113 Who's part of your team?

Speaker 17 There are 13 or 14 Republican senators who have been actively engaged in the process. A handful of others frequently join us for meetings.
And we have an aggressive

Speaker 17 discussion.

Speaker 17 Well, yeah, there are 13 or 14 voices that are actively working on it right now. But there are a lot of others who are also actively involved.

Speaker 17 And we're trying to figure out how we can come to consensus on something that actually works.

Speaker 17 My point to this group, and I haven't gotten a lot of pushback on this, is that our central focus has to be coming up with something that brings down the cost of health care.

Speaker 17 And that we have to recognize you cannot bring down the cost of health care. With the Obamacare regulations in place.
It cannot happen.

Speaker 8 And is there somebody appointed to maybe do some pushback against people like Bernie Sanders who say thousands of Americans are going to die as a result of this?

Speaker 138 Yes.

Speaker 129 I rarely hear that pushback.

Speaker 17 There is somebody appointed to do that and is the President of the United States and all Republican members of Congress.

Speaker 33 Look,

Speaker 17 we're under no delusion here. We understand this is going to be a partisan vote.
Sadly, we will not get the support of a single Democrat, not in the House, not in the Senate.

Speaker 14 No matter what you do.

Speaker 17 No matter what we do. If it involves repealing any portion of Obamacare, we will not get their support.
We will have their overwhelming opposition, which is why we have the support of the president.

Speaker 43 Yes.

Speaker 17 Yes, we will have the support of the president because the president wants to repeal Obamacare.

Speaker 72 I mean, he said, I don't think he necessarily cares about the details of how it's happening, right? Like, I mean, he supported the House plan very, very strongly.

Speaker 72 And as you point out, there are a lot of weaknesses in that. I think he wants that win.
So I think he would approve anything. But, I mean, if you need all 52, you need 50 senators,

Speaker 72 as you said,

Speaker 72 the 48 are completely off the board right to start. So you're going to have to please the Susan Collins of the world, right, to get this done.
And that's why I think a lot of people are pessimistic.

Speaker 17 That is reason for people to be skeptical. It is not reason for people to lose hope.
And there is a big difference between those two things.

Speaker 129 No, history is reason for people to lose hope.

Speaker 136 I haven't had hope since like about 2006.

Speaker 17 I've long been inspired by something that Winston Churchill said, that the American people can always be counted on to do the right thing after they have exhausted every other alternative.

Speaker 115 It's true.

Speaker 17 And you know, look, we've given this Obamacare thing. We've given this whole progressive thing a nice long college try, a much longer try than it deserved.

Speaker 111 And all other alternatives are pretty much off the table now.

Speaker 17 So we're going to return to what works.

Speaker 72 Is there an argument to say, look, we can get rid of, this might not be perfect, we might not get rid of all the Title I stuff, but we can get rid of some of the taxes, we can get rid of the mandate, we can get rid of some of the really bad things from Obamacare.

Speaker 72 Let's take what we can get.

Speaker 17 Sure. I mean, look, who's going to disagree with an argument that says, take what you can get?

Speaker 17 And one of the things that you hear over and over again in Congress, Sue, is that don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. And all that's true.

Speaker 17 But you also shouldn't let the adequate be the enemy of the good or of the better.

Speaker 17 What we're trying to do is say we can do better than the House bill did. The House bill,

Speaker 17 as much as I commend my efforts, who worked really, the efforts of my friends who worked really hard on that issue, it didn't do enough.

Speaker 17 It didn't do nearly enough to bring down the cost of health care. And that's why the big fight is going to be about that in the Senate.
It's a fight I intend to win.

Speaker 90 Talking to Mike Lee, senator from

Speaker 23 Utah, one of the good guys in Congress.

Speaker 7 We're talking to him about his new book, Written Out of History.

Speaker 110 He's going to be joining me for a full hour on television as well.

Speaker 109 It's a great new book about the founders and the forgotten founders, the ones that have been written out of history.

Speaker 43 We'll talk to him about that coming up.

Speaker 63 Also, about impeachment and the things that are being kicked around now in Washington.

Speaker 98 What is his point of view on

Speaker 80 what has been happening with the president since Mike is such a constitutional scholar?

Speaker 79 He'll be able to put it into perspective for us.

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Speaker 17 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 12 We're just talking about how the press is, we're with Senator Mike Lee, how the press

Speaker 86 and the left, you know, they didn't understand how we felt about Barack Obama and thought we were completely unreasonable.

Speaker 66 And now they are so obsessed with Donald Trump and impeachment when they don't even really, I mean, does impeachment fit?

Speaker 18 I mean, what would the crime be?

Speaker 17 That's a good question, and nobody has answered that. Some have suggested, oh, obstruction of justice.
Well, if you can make that charge, you're going to have to come up with evidence.

Speaker 103 You're going to have to have a- So you're a

Speaker 93 constitutionalist and an attorney.

Speaker 81 Does obstruction of justice, if these Comey letters are true and they do show show a pattern of him saying, hey,

Speaker 103 leave this guy alone, is that enough?

Speaker 17 Okay, let's take it a bite at a time. Obstruction of justice, of course,

Speaker 17 could be, in the abstract, grounds for removing a president.

Speaker 17 If we're looking at this situation here,

Speaker 17 we don't have evidence of action amounting to obstruction of justice. What we have is that the FBI director got fired.
Well, guess what?

Speaker 17 The FBI director serves at the pleasure of of the president, can be removed for any reason or no reason at all.

Speaker 17 There was here very good reason provided by the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who came up with all sorts of reasons and briefed us as senators on them the other day, including the fact that who holds a lengthy press conference as FBI director?

Speaker 17 Who makes the decision on whether to prosecute

Speaker 17 anyone as FBI director? There are all kinds of things that Jim Comey did as Attorney General that were way outside the norm, way beyond the standard of care for anyone acting as FBI director.

Speaker 3 So there are good reasons to fire him.

Speaker 17 If, in fact, somebody alleges that there were other reasons, let's bring those reasons forward. Let's see evidence on that.
So far, I haven't seen evidence.

Speaker 103 Again, though, if the letters turn out to be true, is that enough?

Speaker 17 By the letters. By the letters.
Do you mean that the memoranda in which Jim Comey supposedly said there was a conversation I had with the president about

Speaker 118 relying on me to get, you know, to stop this investigation?

Speaker 3 Sure.

Speaker 17 It's always possible you bring forward, that's the kind of evidence I'm talking about. You bring forward evidence showing intent to obstruct justice.
That could change the conversation.

Speaker 17 But there are a thousand things that memo could say. We haven't seen the memo.
Right.

Speaker 110 And shouldn't he have reported if he thought there was

Speaker 17 a he was the FBI director, and if something like that happened, he should have brought brought it forward. If he couldn't continue to serve, he should have resigned.

Speaker 17 Moreover, on the hearing we held just a couple of weeks ago in the Senate Judiciary Committee on which I serve, one of my colleagues asked if political pressure had been brought to bear in an investigation.

Speaker 17 And he said, no, that's not something I've seen, not something I've experienced. I said, no.

Speaker 12 Senator Mike Lee, we're going to talk about Written Out of History, new book by Mike.

Speaker 11 It is The Forgotten Founders.

Speaker 11 Just a great, great book that really goes into some of the guys who've kind of got the shaft from history, a woman who you've never heard of. Some great stories of Forgotten Founders.

Speaker 12 It's available in bookstores everywhere. We talk about it with Mike Lee next.

Speaker 12 You're listening to the Glen Beck Program.

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Speaker 1 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

Speaker 55 Welcome back to the program.

Speaker 20 Mike Lee, senator from Utah, is with us.

Speaker 10 He's got a new book, a book that everybody should have on their shelf, especially if you are looking to teach your kids American history.

Speaker 71 This is written out of history by Mike Lee.

Speaker 74 These are all the heroes of the American Revolution that have been written out of history because it just didn't jive with what the story everybody wants to tell.

Speaker 105 Where do you want to start?

Speaker 17 You know, my interest in writing this book, it came about in part part as a result of my work on my last book called Our Lost Constitution. I told some stories about the formation of the Republican.

Speaker 17 It came out about the same time as this certain Broadway play, a certain Broadway play that kind of lit a match. Hamilton.
Some very dry tender. Hamilton, exactly.
Have you seen it? I haven't seen it.

Speaker 17 I know the soundtrack well. I've listened to it over and over again.
I hope to see it at some point,

Speaker 17 but have not been able to get in so far.

Speaker 17 That kindled something in the American people. It got them excited.
It made them realize there's a lot to learn from our founding generation.

Speaker 17 And if we study our founding generation, we can discover some things about ourselves.

Speaker 61 So what did you discover about us?

Speaker 17 What I discovered about us is that we didn't start out exactly the way a lot of people assume we started out.

Speaker 121 Wait, rich white people that are just interested in slavery and business?

Speaker 84 That's the narrative.

Speaker 17 That's the narrative. Those were the only people.
Everyone else in America was silent or silenced, had nothing to say, no contribution to make to public discourse.

Speaker 17 And in this book, I outline the stories of a number of Americans who were neither rich nor white nor male in some cases.

Speaker 17 People who made a profound contribution to the early days of the American Republic. But their narrative, their story didn't fit with our modern narrative of what happened at the American founding.

Speaker 62 Give me a couple of your favorite examples.

Speaker 130 Mumbette.

Speaker 17 Mumbette was a slave in early America, in Massachusetts. She discovered that with the revolution and with the Massachusetts state constitution

Speaker 17 as it came out, guaranteed individuals with certain rights, that all men, and including women, were protected by these rights. And she fought for and won her slavery in court.
as a result of that.

Speaker 17 She made an early contribution to the abolition movement in America.

Speaker 17 The discussion of slavery was not something that just sort of bubbled up right around or in the immediate

Speaker 17 lead-in to the Civil War. This was something that was actively debated and discussed at the time of the Revolution.

Speaker 27 And what year was this?

Speaker 17 This was in the late 1700s.

Speaker 17 So about the time we became our own country, but

Speaker 3 long before, long before anything close to the Civil War happened.

Speaker 17 So as a result of that, she fought for and won her freedom. She had a very significant role in an understanding in this country that we as individuals have certain rights given to us by God.

Speaker 72 But she was a black woman.

Speaker 17 She was a black woman who won her freedom. She didn't fit that narrative.
She's been written out of history.

Speaker 58 When did you find that

Speaker 5 Was she ever prominent in history in America?

Speaker 9 Did we ever learn about her?

Speaker 10 Or has she always been written out?

Speaker 17 There were times when she was well known. She was relatively well known at the time of the revolution.

Speaker 17 And she continued to be well known throughout

Speaker 17 the abolition effort.

Speaker 17 But over time, her memory faded because people assumed, you know,

Speaker 17 we've got a lot of rich white guys to talk about. That's all we're going to talk about.

Speaker 65 We also have this belief that...

Speaker 29 And it's so wrong that women didn't, you know, they didn't have the vote.

Speaker 52 That's not exactly right.

Speaker 38 You had to own property.

Speaker 113 So if you were a woman and your husband died and you had property, you got the vote.

Speaker 18 And it was more of a family kind of vote.

Speaker 35 It wasn't against a woman.

Speaker 58 It was about who's the owner of property, correct?

Speaker 99 Yes.

Speaker 4 And a lot of women played a very important role in the American founding.

Speaker 17 Including Mercy Otis Warren. another American who was very prominent at the time of the Revolution, but who we've written out, who's been been forgotten.
She was well-educated. She was an author.

Speaker 17 She was constantly involved in public discourse. She had some grave concerns about what our federal government might become under the new Constitution.

Speaker 17 She was good friends with John Adams, but it became sort of a love-hate relationship.

Speaker 17 They had this back-and-forth exchange of letters over the course of many years in which she would raise concerns about the new government. And

Speaker 17 these discussions became increasingly heated.

Speaker 17 She ended up having a real voice in speaking speaking out for freedom, speaking out about the fact that, you know, when government acts, it does so at the expense of individual liberty.

Speaker 17 We have to constrain government power. But that, too, conflicts with the modern narrative.

Speaker 17 And so what I've tried to do in assembling these stories is remember some of the comments that I received in connection with my last book, on our lost constitution.

Speaker 17 I've gone through and read the reviews on Amazon and elsewhere. Over and over and over again, some different themes developed.

Speaker 17 People would say in that story, these are great stories, but these are stories I've never heard. These are stories that are not discussed in

Speaker 17 civics class or in history class, even in AP or college-level history classes. Some of these stories have been left out.

Speaker 17 So I've tried in this book, Written Out of History, to find more of those stories, more of the people who contributed to our founding.

Speaker 102 I tell you, you can go to George Washington University now and study history, and you don't have to take more than one semester of American history.

Speaker 25 So there's a good chance that you go to George Washington University and you're never taught about George Washington.

Speaker 53 I mean, we're leaving

Speaker 39 George Washington out of our history now.

Speaker 17 And my guess is, Glenn, if you did study George Washington, it might not be the more noble aspects of George Washington's life that would be first place.

Speaker 8 Well, he was a rich white slave owner.

Speaker 45 He was indeed that.

Speaker 130 He was indeed that.

Speaker 17 He was also many other things. You know, one of the...

Speaker 8 Yeah, he's a guy with white privilege.

Speaker 15 We didn't establish that.

Speaker 26 That's for sure. Thank you, Pat.

Speaker 136 Thank you for that.

Speaker 17 And yet, with respect to George Washington, one of my favorite things to show people in the Capitol

Speaker 17 is the portrait of one of the many paintings that hangs in the Capitol Rotunda, is one of George Washington surrendering his commission to the Continental Congress after winning the Revolutionary War.

Speaker 17 It sends chills down my spine every time I see it, every time I think about it, every time I talk about it.

Speaker 93 You don't have to name him, but do you see anyone that is or could be the next George Washington?

Speaker 17 Oh, sure. Look, I see a lot of people who have liberty in their veins, who long for liberty, who yearn for it.
Anyone who yearns for liberty has the ability to be that person.

Speaker 17 And all they have to do is speak about it, do something about it, talk about it, push back against the narrative that says that anything we do that's important has to be through government, and anything that we do through government that's important must be done through the federal government and never through states and localities.

Speaker 17 Push back against that narrative and you will help restore the spirit of America's founding.

Speaker 94 You talk about George Mason.

Speaker 121 You tell the story of George Mason

Speaker 69 as being kind of a forgotten founder.

Speaker 118 Tell the story that you have in the book.

Speaker 17 George Mason was a remarkable human being.

Speaker 17 He was a reluctant statesman, one who was a man of business.

Speaker 17 He just wanted to live his own life without undue interference. He got involved in government.
He ended up going to the Constitutional Convention.

Speaker 17 He ended up having some grave concerns with the Constitution, which he ultimately couldn't support, in part because he could see that the powers created by it would one day be abused.

Speaker 17 That's one of the things that we have to remember and one of the understandings we have to restore in this country. We talk a lot in our U.S.

Speaker 17 history courses in school about the Federalists, about the fact that those pushing the Constitution

Speaker 17 pointed out there were all these protections in place. We don't talk as much about the anti-Federalists, those who warned

Speaker 17 about how this government power could be abused, those who understood that based on human nature, human beings are by nature redeemable but flawed.

Speaker 17 And when they get power, they tend to abuse it unless that power is kept in check.

Speaker 17 George Mason was one who really understood that. And he fought hard to make sure that his fellow beings, his fellow patriots, would be protected.
And he didn't want them being subject to.

Speaker 66 Wasn't he against the Constitution as written?

Speaker 121 I mean, he

Speaker 66 stood. But didn't

Speaker 86 he

Speaker 75 help write it, didn't he?

Speaker 112 Yes.

Speaker 33 Yes.

Speaker 17 One of his, he was very concerned that unless it outlined more areas that were out of bounds for the government, and unless there were more protections like those ultimately provided through the Bill of Rights.

Speaker 43 And those weren't included at the beginning.

Speaker 121 In fact, every state voted against them.

Speaker 17 Those were not included at the beginning.

Speaker 17 But the Bill of Rights came about in part because of the efforts of men like George Mason, who said, we've got to constrain this government.

Speaker 17 We've got to identify a number of things that government just cannot do.

Speaker 17 Otherwise, government will do those things because people will come forward and say, look, this is important. Therefore, it must be done.
And it must be done in the most efficient manner possible.

Speaker 68 Mike, I was talking to somebody the other day, and I said, with an exception of maybe a couple, you know, like the vice president and removal of office of the president and the taxes and prohibition,

Speaker 58 pretty much everything else in there

Speaker 103 past the first 10,

Speaker 94 I feel like are covered by the first 10.

Speaker 55 And it's just Congress going, no, dummy, what part didn't you understand?

Speaker 111 Black people

Speaker 81 are

Speaker 43 men who are born to be free.

Speaker 81 Women are, you know, when we said men, we meant everybody.

Speaker 91 Men, women, we meant everybody.

Speaker 110 And so it's just kind of a reiteration of the first 10 because they're so well written.

Speaker 17 In many respects, yes. And that's one of the things I love about the first 10 amendments is that they're written so carefully, elegantly, and with this simplicity.

Speaker 17 that allows them to stand the test of time. Right.

Speaker 121 Except for the quartering of soldiers.

Speaker 134 I I mean, that's the only one.

Speaker 17 Hey, you never know when that could come in handy.

Speaker 138 True.

Speaker 17 The day may come, Glenn, when you want to.

Speaker 43 What do you think of the idea that

Speaker 109 in some ways they have quarter soldiers in our home through

Speaker 93 NSA being able to listen and snoop and record everything that we have?

Speaker 58 Our government is in our home all the time.

Speaker 102 Yes.

Speaker 17 And in that respect,

Speaker 17 I've got several chapters in my book that that would interest you about that issue.

Speaker 17 James Otis, for example, would have been very concerned about that.

Speaker 17 He pushed back on the abuse of writs of assistance, which were these roving warrants, roving commissions that could be used by the king's officers to kick down doors, to go after any contraband goods.

Speaker 17 pursuant to efforts to enforce laws that were themselves put in place to protect the British subjects in America from counterfeit non-British approved goods.

Speaker 17 This is not really a quartering of troops problem that you're describing. It's a Fourth Amendment problem.

Speaker 17 The right of the people to be secure in their persons, in their papers, in their homes, from unreasonable, intrusive searches and seizures is what protects us, both in letter and in spirit, from the NSA undertaking surveillance on the American people without a warrant.

Speaker 125 It amazes me.

Speaker 54 There is a new study out that shows that I think it's 49% of conservative millennials say that freedom of speech, freedom of religion, yada yada, it's all absolute, except the government has to decide

Speaker 74 what speech is okay.

Speaker 58 49% of conservatives think the government has to put limits on speech and press and everything else.

Speaker 17 Yeah, and if you understand freedom of speech that way, what you're really saying is there is no such thing as freedom of speech.

Speaker 17 That's what freedom of speech is there for, is to say government must stay out.

Speaker 25 Mike Lee, he'll be joining me soon on

Speaker 114 the television program at 5 o'clock, The Blaze.

Speaker 69 You don't want to miss that.

Speaker 67 Mike Lee, the author of the book, Written Out of History, The Forgotten Founders Who Fought Big Government, Written Out of History, something that should be on everybody's bookshelf.

Speaker 60 If you're trying to teach history to your kids, it's a great read, easy to read, and stories you've never heard before.

Speaker 71 Written out of history by Mike Lee.

Speaker 109 It's available everywhere right now.

Speaker 30 This is the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 2 Mercury.

Speaker 17 This is the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 11 So I just don't understand this.

Speaker 136 So

Speaker 9 Donald Trump

Speaker 7 You know has said Muslim extremists Muslim extremists blah blah blah.

Speaker 80 He didn't say it all weekend

Speaker 105 and now he's just said it in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 89 He said it before he left in a speech about Muslim extremists.

Speaker 61 And now the subtle change or slip, as the White House called it, could mean the difference between offending Middle Eastern allies or not.

Speaker 67 Using the word Islamic referring to the religion in the same breath as terrorism could be seen by Muslims as an effort and an affront to their faith and to play into the terrorist clash of civilizations narrative.

Speaker 109 So

Speaker 47 the president said this

Speaker 109 as well as Islamic terror.

Speaker 19 He was getting heaped by his supporters.

Speaker 10 Now the White House is saying that was a slip.

Speaker 31 He was just really super, super tired.

Speaker 115 What?

Speaker 74 Which is it?

Speaker 46 Why?

Speaker 74 Which is it?

Speaker 27 Oh man.

Speaker 27 Either own it or not.

Speaker 14 This is the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 115 Mercury.