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Yesterday, MSNBC thought that they were going to pull off a coup

by releasing Donald Trump's taxes from 2005.

I don't know who they thought they were dealing with, but the master

at manipulating the media, the master at

winning is Donald Trump.

Rachel Maddow

thought she had a big scoop.

What she didn't realize is that Donald Trump was going to scoop her about 45 minutes before her big scoop, and it was going to turn around on Rachel Maddow.

We begin there, right now.

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So yesterday, Rachel Maddow and MSNBC thought that they had a really big scoop.

And they should have known known because they had the tax records.

They were looking at them.

And they came out and Rachel Maddow said, you know, I've got a big scoop.

I've got the details of

Donald Trump's tax records.

And everybody in the media was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, is tax records.

Then she had to clarify and say, well, it's 2005's tax records.

Well, Donald Trump.

He's got enough people working for him that all they have to do is go back and look at 2005 and say, what do they have?

Oh,

well, let's release those.

And so they released those records to CNN and to Fox.

So everyone was talking about the 2005 tax records that the White House released about an hour before Rachel Maddow had her big expose.

Oops.

Rachel Maddow then had to go on.

with what obviously had been prepared to be this big scoop,

and it wasn't a big scoop.

In fact, it backfired on her.

So, why not say, I have something big and not say what it is?

Is that just a mistake?

Or

I think she wanted the

credit for the tax records.

I think her big mistake was 2005.

Because if she said 2005,

then Trump could look for that particular year and see what was in it and prepare for it.

So, she allowed him the time to prepare for it.

The other problem is,

it's not a big story.

It actually helps the president.

If you pay $38 million in taxes

and you make $150 million in balance.

That's pretty reasonable to just about anybody.

Yeah, that's 25%.

Come on.

And

that's with all of the, you know.

Even this billionaire couldn't get out of paying all his taxes.

Correct.

He still paid an effective tax rate of 25%.

Because remember, what they were saying was that Donald Trump didn't, that one year that they released in the 90s.

He didn't pay anything.

Didn't pay anything.

And he said, well, that makes me smart that year.

But believe me, I pay taxes.

And they speculated that that would carry over for the next 15 years.

Right.

That he would be paying no taxes.

So here he is in 2005 paying $38 million in taxes, which takes that entire argument that he doesn't pay taxes and throws that out the window.

Plus, it throws out the window.

That he doesn't make very much money because $150 million, that's a lot of money.

That's a lot of money for

money.

That was more than I thought he probably made.

Correct.

So here's, do you have a little bit of Rachel Matt out?

Yeah.

But because nobody has had the president's taxes before, we didn't know what to expect.

When we showed this 2005 return to the White House to ask them if it's real, we sent this over to the White House tonight, and the White House responded basically with,

yep.

I'm going to read you the White House statement on this tonight.

Quote, Before being elected president, Mr.

Trump was one of the most successful businessmen in the world, with a responsibility to his company, his family, and his employees to pay no more tax than legally required.

That being said, Mr.

Trump paid $38 million, even after taking into account large-scale depreciation for construction on an income of more than $150 million,

as well as paying tens of millions of dollars in other taxes, such as sales and excise taxes and employment taxes.

And this illegally published return proves just that.

Despite this substantial income figure and tax paid, it is totally illegal to steal and publish tax returns.

The dishonest media can continue to make this part of their agenda while the president will focus on his, which includes tax reform that will benefit all Americans.

Stop.

Comments?

Thoughts?

She's got nothing.

I mean, I don't even know why she went to air with it.

Well, got nothing.

Right.

I mean, first of all, this disproves as we were talking about.

But let me throw out a different theory here for a second.

Okay, because Trump comes out today and says,

does anybody really believe a reporter who nobody ever heard of, quote, went to his mailbox, end quote, and found my tax returns?

Fake news.

Now, of course, everyone's like, oh,

he said fake news.

The White House confirmed they were real.

He's not saying the tax returns are fake.

He's saying the way that it was discovered is fake.

Well, but that's the way that stuff happens in Washington.

Right.

He's saying he doesn't believe it.

Well, no.

Okay, but whatever, right?

But hold on, let me throw out this.

Let me just throw this out here.

And I don't know if this is real or not, but there's two competing narratives, right?

Donald Trump is this, you know,

he's this crazy guy.

I think I know where you're going.

He's this crazy guy who's constantly flopping around, never knows what's going on.

He's incompetent.

And the other side of that is he's the master media manipulator, and he wins every battle.

He's in the middle of this healthcare thing, which is not going particularly well at the moment.

Let's just say, let's just throw this out here.

I'm not saying this happened.

Let's just say he decided

what a great time it would be for, let's say, the best year.

You can see this happen.

The best year of my last 20 years, right?

I can pick the year and send it to someone's mailbox and leak it.

Let's just say someone in his camp leaks this, right, to MSNBC.

So this, as we just talked about, solves his I didn't pay taxes problem.

Yep.

Right.

It also

changes the narrative completely, throws everyone off of these roads they've been going down for several weeks.

Then he comes out and says, How could they possibly get this?

It's illegal.

Again, the copy says it, it's a client copy.

So all indications are it comes from, it was one of Trump's copies.

That doesn't mean Trump sent it, but it means someone, it came from his camp.

It wasn't like from the IRS, right?

So somehow this gets there.

I mean, if he is, let's take it the idea that he is the media, the master media manipulator.

This is a genius move.

You leak the year that you pay the most taxes,

made the most money, this great year,

and it's a random year from 12 years ago, which doesn't necessarily make any sense why they'd have that one.

And it's the only one.

It doesn't have all the details.

It has only limited details on the actual returns.

I mean, it would be, if he did it, a great move.

I'm not saying he did, but I'm saying it would be a great move if he did it.

And it makes Rachel Maddow look like a moron.

Yep.

And it continues the narrative of

we've got all these leaks in the White House.

It just continues that narrative.

You'll be able to just shut things down.

And everybody is against me, even in my own, even in my own house.

I mean, it's not that.

And yet I'm telling the truth.

This is the best thing that has happened to Donald Trump in a long time.

It really is.

And Rachel Maddow, look,

ask yourself this question:

You don't believe the press.

If you're a conservative, you don't believe the press

because the press is always anti-Trump, right?

Can never admit when Trump is

right or

has done something decent or whatever.

That's the way you view it.

Now, if you're...

If you're saying, I want the truth, I just want the truth.

I just want the truth.

Can you trust those people who are always against Donald Trump?

Can you trust those who are always for Donald Trump?

No.

No.

You can't trust either.

So where are the people that are truly neither?

That is a very, very,

very

small pool.

It's four people, and they're all in this room.

It's a very small pool.

And a lot of people would say on both sides would say, we're in neither.

We're not those people because they think we're either GOP shills or they think that we're never Trumpers.

And there is, I mean, there obviously are a lot of people who do that, who try to do this

to varying levels of success.

Right.

Right.

But there are very few.

I think people like Jake Tapper tries to do that.

tries to say, wait a minute, this isn't right.

You know, I'll hold the president's feet to the fire.

Oh, I won't.

Although I think he's having a difficult time with Trump.

Yeah, but I'll give you a good example from the last couple of weeks.

He went on a lengthy rant on Twitter when there was a big story that came out that said a, I think it was a military member had been deported because he was not a citizen or had some troubles with

his citizen card,

with his green card or something.

And he was, but he was a millionaire, he was in the military and he got deported.

It was a big story.

And Tapper came out and said, actually, this isn't new at all.

It was happening through the Obama administration and sent out link after link after link of the exact same thing happening.

Wow.

Now, a person who's not trying to actually be a journalist doesn't do that.

A person who's just targeting Donald Trump doesn't bother, doesn't know the story existed from the Obama administration.

Jake Tapper is a story.

But he did it anyway.

He is really impressive.

He's really impressive.

He's one of truly the few that's a news person, not a commentator.

I think there are commentators that try to be fair, but news people, I think they're...

can you name the news people?

John Carl and Jake Tapper.

Yeah, those two.

I can't think of anybody else.

Maybe there are some.

I think Chuck Todd is trying, but

he's not doing what Jake Tapper's doing.

Yeah, but those are commentators.

And

I would put Chuck Todd kind of into that category, too.

He's a commentator.

more than a news guy.

The point is, it's a very limited

group here.

And it's difficult to get.

Carl and Tapper are the two journalists that I trust.

You know, and so, and you see, it's more easy to spot when Obama's in because there were people, there are very few again, but some that would

Carl and Tapper are the two that stand out that would go after him.

It's more difficult for our side to see it when there's a Republican in office because, yeah, generally speaking, a lot of these people are going to be critical of the president and going after them because, you know, that's what happens.

Whoever, but, you know, it's a lot, it's, it's important to point it out when it actually happens because you need to have people like that who have access to these things.

So I thought of this, you know, if I would have, let's say,

let's say this scandal would have been happening with Barack Obama and Barack Obama's taxes were important,

how would I have handled this if that showed up in my mailbox?

First of all, I would have said, I would have led the show with, this showed up in my mailbox and I'm just paranoid enough.

to wonder if they came from the other side.

Because here's what I found.

And I would have presented it with

this is all good news.

This is all good news.

She presented this as a big expose.

And look, he's paid this amount of money.

Well, no, it's all good news.

And I would have presented it.

If I were on Fox and the audience may or may not have said, I can't believe, why would you present that?

That makes him look good.

Well, maybe the question is we should ask, who did they come from but

uh

by presenting it in a way of i've got his tax returns

you're just playing for the red meat yeah and that's just showing who you are and i i don't want that

she should have gone on last night and said don't know who i got these from but here's what they say And she got burned.

Rachel got burned by a very stand, a very common common thing behind the scenes with stories like this.

And it's happened to us

where you, as a journalistic organization, have something that you want to break.

And like it or not, somehow MSNBC is considered a journalistic organization.

So instead of, because you could just come out here and release them, right?

Like WikiLeaks just releases them.

She goes to get comment from the White House.

And what that does is it puts the ball in the court of the White House.

And what they do is try to ruin the story.

So the ball, this happens constantly.

Like when the Blaze has a story that we want to break, we go to get comment from the source.

They realize it's real.

And because they don't want the Blaze to break it, they'll leak it to a more friendly organization or to everybody.

So it basically ruins our story and they get to control the narrative.

So this is the same thing.

They controlled the story because everybody in the press was waiting for a big bombshell.

And when it was released, even Van Jones...

Van Jones said this.

Here's reality.

If all we get tonight is that Donald Trump paid $38 million to America's government, that's a good night for Donald Trump.

I'm sorry.

There's just really no way.

Like I was hoping and praying that it would show not only did he pay no taxes, he actually charged the government and got money back.

I want to tell because I could get excited.

Yep.

And again, to go back to our future, from the previous point, is there a show in America that has a bigger history with Van Jones than us?

I mean, there can't be, right?

We are the show known for exposing Van Jones.

But

I disagree with that analysis, but I agree too.

Again,

we've played multiple clips of Van Jones saying very sane things and being honest.

And why he gets credit for that, even from us?

Yes.

Because he's willing to say occasionally, hey, look, I don't think this is right.

And even admitted that he wanted it to be something else.

Exactly.

That's all I want is honesty.

It shows his bias there.

But that's good.

It is.

It's good.

It is.

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The truth about communism,

our serial, chapter two, is today in about an hour from now.

You don't want to miss it.

Yesterday we did National Socialism and how it's connected to

communism.

Yesterday was really interesting in the serial and you can hear it at Glennbeck.com slash serials.

Really fascinating to me because it National Socialism was all about nationalism and populism.

And nobody seems to realize that

the train of the United States is on those tracks now.

And that's not good.

We are fully, almost fully on those railroad tracks.

If you remember those shows I used to do at Fox where I had on the chalkboard the railroad tracks.

where the left railroad track was communism and the right was National Socialism.

That's what we're on.

That is truly what we're on right now.

And the middle is balancing those two so you don't go too far one way or the other.

That's what Europe is going through right now.

When is Le Pen's election?

Do we know?

When does that happen in France?

Seems to have been going on forever, but I'm sure that's what they say about us.

And where is she standing in the polls?

Because for a while there, it looked like might she might win if she wins that changes the balance of everything turkey is already in a nato fight she wants to get out of nato and she wants to switch the alliance with the united states in the west to france would align themselves now with russia which would be

quite an interesting quite an interesting change the runoff is may 7th first election april 23rd in france

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I want to talk to you a little bit about

how do we trust?

How do we trust the news?

How do we find the truth?

What changed my life was a quote from Thomas Jefferson, and

it was written about religion, and I took it as religion.

But later, I realized this is right about everything

in life.

And

in the 90s, I spent, Stu met me halfway through the 90s, and I was a guy who was, in some ways, pulling himself apart.

I was diametrically opposed to myself at times.

And when Stu and I first met,

I was trying to figure things out, and I would come in one day, and I'd be like, okay, wait a minute.

Okay, here's a case for abortion.

And we would talk and I'd come back the next day.

Okay, but this is a really strong pro-life argument.

And I had what I jokingly call the library of a serial killer because I was looking first to the extremes of every issue.

Tell me about the extreme point of view over here, the extreme point of view on the other side.

And if there were any points where they connected, I knew that was true.

If they both mentioned a problem that they were both trying to solve or they were both mentioning a solution,

then I knew most likely they're true because they hate each other and they disagree on everything.

And then I would move in closer to the center.

And if I would take things like the hardest thing that I had to deal with was

abortion.

I was pro-choice.

when I started this journey because of this phrase from Thomas Jefferson, I was pro-choice.

Again, this is is 20 years ago.

20 years ago.

And then I wrestled with it and became pro-life.

Well, now let me take on the death penalty.

How am I pro-life here?

Pro-death here?

And it went on for a long time.

And I wasn't settled on that for a long time.

Settled on that.

Now let's look at end of life.

Do you have a right to take your own life?

I know know I always say I don't want to go out that way.

I don't want to go out babbling in an institution.

You know, I just don't want to live that way.

Well, would I have a right to suicide?

Is that right?

How do I feel about that morally?

And just those three issues took up the better part of a whole decade.

The question

that Thomas Jefferson was trying to answer is, how do you find God?

And he wrote this phrase:

when it comes to religion, above all things, fix reason firmly in her seat.

Now, think of that.

Just that phrase.

Fix reason firmly in her seat.

What is the problem that we have right now?

We've lost all reason.

We've lost all faith, and we've lost all reason.

You can't reason with someone

because of their emotions.

So above all things, fix reason firmly in her seat,

and then

question with boldness even the very existence of God.

For if there be a God, he must surely rather honest questions

over blindfolded fear.

Honest and bold questions.

So there are no questions that are

off limits.

They can be bold.

You can question, now remember this in the 1700s, question the very existence of God.

That was blasphemy.

Question it.

For even God himself must rather honest questions over blindfolded fear.

As long as it's an honest question, you're not trying to prove your point.

So let's take this on something that's happened with Twitter.

And it's no big deal, but I want to use this as an example.

Fix reason firmly in her seat.

I've read Mein Kampf.

Stu, have you read Mein Kampf?

Too much of it.

Yeah.

I've read Mein Kampf.

It is, I read it for the reason I wanted to know, did the German people know?

Yeah, they knew.

They knew it was more well read than the Bible in Germany in the 1930s.

It was everywhere, and he spells it out.

And the idea that it was an unread bestseller, which some people have floated, I mean, there's no evidence of that.

No evidence of that.

And

it is easy to read.

And if you read it from the 1930s mindset of Germany, you see he's trying to solve the problem of their downtrodden spirit, their downtrodden country.

He's talking about uplifting things if we can just only only get rid of the Jew.

And it's all clear.

You just didn't want to question how are we going to get rid of the Jew.

So

I've read Mein Kampf to see if the German people were complicit.

And the answer is yes, they knew.

The other thing that comes out of that is

the other things that he believes that are de-emphasized.

For instance, in the very first English translation in 1939, do you happen to have this, Stu?

Sure, I can go.

The very first English translation in 1939, it wants to make clear because they're saying this is the National Socialist Democratic Party.

And so in Germany in 1939, the translator wants to make sure one thing is very clear.

Yeah, because the words social democracy pop up throughout.

This is the first one.

Finally, I would point out that the term social democracy may be misleading in English as

it has not a democratic connotation in our sense.

It is the name given to the socialist party in Germany, and that party was purely Marxist, but it adopted the name social democrat in order to appeal to the democratic sections of German people.

It is the same thing could be said about Lenin.

He was purely communist, and he adopted social democrat to hide from the fact that they were communists.

So it's the same, so it's the same story.

But nobody wants to hear that

because Marxism is neat.

You need to remember what Marxism really is and what it has given birth to.

Now,

I said earlier this week, Stu and I, in some other topic, we were talking about environmentalism or something else.

And I said, you know, who would have been an environmentalist today is Adolf Hitler.

And that does not mean, now listen, fix reason firmly in her seat.

What did I just say?

That Hitler would have been all over the global warming environmentalist movement.

He would have.

Because it's popular and it would have helped him get his things done.

He was looking for a vehicle, national democracy or

what was it called?

The social democracy.

okay he was also all about social justice

he would have used this

now

the Twitter sphere went crazy accusing me of being crazy or lying no

fix reason in her seat and question with boldness why would Glenn Beck say that well

Because Hitler was concerned about several things.

One, feeding his own people.

Let me give you

a quote.

Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make.

Now he was concerned about the farms.

He was concerned about being able to keep up with production of food for the German people.

By the way, that quote did not come from him.

That quote came from environmental legend Paul Ehrlich.

as he was in the 1970s saying that maybe we should put sterilants in drinking water.

Does that sound like something that Hitler would have done?

Now, Paul says, well, that was just an academic thought.

That's not real.

Yeah, you might have Holdren and Ehrlich.

Oh, yeah, you're right.

Hold on.

That was there.

But I mean, yes, I'm sure Holdren was the one who said it.

And he said it for the same reason.

Okay, we should put sterilants in the drinking water.

Well, Hitler would have done that.

That doesn't mean that Holdren or Ehrlich are Nazis.

No.

This doesn't mean that

because Hitler was into the environmental movement in Mein Kampf, the new Reich will have to conquer with the German sword the soil that the German plow, with the German plow

and till it in order to provide for people their daily bread and secure adequate food supplies for the German people.

Living space.

Hitler's two most important goals, destruction of the Jews and the conquest of the living space, quoting in the East.

He had a growing concern about the allegedly negative effects of industrialization and urbanization.

There was a belief in the virtues of the farming society.

He was concerned with Germany's limited resources of food and raw materials.

That's according to the BBC, by the way.

But you can read this.

The reason why I bring this up is it has nothing to do with you as an environmentalist.

Nothing.

Why are people so quick to jump

to defense

when they have not put reason in her seat and haven't questioned?

I was not attacking environmentalists.

If I would, I have things that I could actually talk to you about.

I could talk to you about things that I disagree with.

I was not talking about environmentalism.

What I'm talking about is Adolf Hitler.

He would have done these things.

He would have loved these things.

That's not a judgment on those things or those people that currently believe those things.

It's about him.

If we can't talk about history, if we can't talk about facts that are clearly there,

We can't have any kind of dialogue.

We can never have a reconciliation.

We have to be able to admit facts, even if they hurt our own side.

Period.

I mean, on this front, I mean,

one of the reasons you talked about him being an environmentalist was his vegetarianism in favor of animals.

More than people.

He loved animals more than people.

Now, I don't share that in common with him.

However, I do share vegetarianism in common with Adolf Hitler.

Right.

And did I call you a Nazi?

No, nor did I take it that way because I assume good intent.

Right.

Right.

I go into a conversation with you knowing that you're not calling me a Nazi because I, you know, I eat too many veggie burgers.

But you know what?

I don't think anybody is coming into any conversation anymore with good intent.

We don't watch the news with good intent.

We don't watch,

we don't talk to some of our friends, assuming good intent.

We don't consume anything believing.

And this was one of the things that I was really afraid of when George W.

Bush said, what we have to do is we have to spy on our neighbors.

See something, say something.

You see something that your neighbor's doing, call us.

And then, and I was against it then.

And then the first thing that Obama did when he came in is he wanted to make thewitehouse.gov, if you remember right, the leading source of tips.

If you see your neighbor saying things that were untrue, and I think he was using that about healthcare, wasn't he?

If you see them thinking, doing things that were untrue, contact us and let us know.

No, that's bad.

And the reason why I was against it both times is the one thing America has always had is we trust our neighbors.

We trust each other.

We're losing that.

We have to fix reason in her seat.

Still feel free to ask bold questions, but they need to be honest questions.

And we need to approach all

conversations, assuming the best of that person who you think is slamming you on Facebook.

Maybe they're not.

Assume the best in your response to them and see what happens.

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I'm going to

Madame Butterfly tonight with my daughter, which, oh,

now this hasn't happened in how many years?

My daughter loves opera, and I've been taking my daughters to father-daughter dates since they were little.

And now they're in their 20s.

And I took

my eldest daughter to

a

concert on Saturday, and I'm going to Madam Butterfly tonight.

And

I kind of forget until I get right up on it

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No.

Because I keep trying to think, okay, well, maybe this one's got a good storyline or something.

No, no, it doesn't.

I don't think that's going to matter.

I'm going to see a Chinese neck and neck with poetry.

I'm going to see a Chinese woman playing a Japanese woman singing in Italian, and I speak English.

How can that be good?

This This is the Blaze Radio on demand.

What is communism?

And Dr.

Zudi Jasser is a guy who's been on this program forever.

Is he the grand Mufti of the stealth jihad?

We begin there right now.

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Something came to my attention yesterday, and I wanted to get Zudi Jasser on right away.

Zudi Jasser has been a friend of mine for, I don't even know, 15 years maybe.

maybe.

He is, I believe, one of the bravest Muslims in America today, one who still practices his faith.

There are many people who used to be Muslim, who left their faith.

He is a guy who still practices his faith and is a reformer, is somebody like Martin Luther who says, we have to reform this.

There is a difference between Islam and Islamists.

If you are a Muslim,

that's not not necessarily a problem.

If you're an Islamist, it is always a problem.

Zudi Jasser seems to understand this, but apparently on his radio show on the Blaze this last weekend,

he

went off on a few people here in America.

Let me give you the...

Let me give you just the headline and a little bit of this story.

The grand Mufti of stealth jihad, Zudi Jasser, says says there's no greater threat than Pamela Geller and her colleagues.

This is from Pamela Geller.

In one fell swoop, moderate Muslim, in quotation marks, Zudi Jasser, has dropped a Moab on the most effective counter-jihadist in the West.

The Grand Mufti of the Stealth Jihad has devoted an entire episode of his show on the Blaze Network, Reform This, to smearing me and many of my colleagues, including Robert Spencer, Andrew Bostom, Claire Lopez, John Guandalo, and others as alt jihadists.

He says there are no greater jihadists than the alt jihadists when it comes to living in the land of freedom because they seem to want to kill us and knock us off at the knees.

Who even knew he had a show on the blaze?

Why is Glenn Beck giving this vicious saboteur a platform?

Wow.

Vicious saboteur.

Wow, that's impressive.

Frank Gaffney immediately wrote to a group of us whom

Jasser targeted, telling us to hold off in the interest of peacemaking.

It was striking how quickly Gaffney jumped to Jasser's defense.

I've never seen him jump to my defense like that.

What a step-and-fetch-it boy Gaffney is for Jaffer.

It epitomizes how much people who recognize the jihad threat have been fooled into thinking that they have to have a moderate Muslim on board or their efforts will be criticized by the left as Islamophobic.

So she is making the point that Frank Gaffney

is afraid of being called Islamophobic.

Frank Gaffney seems like he has a lot of fear about being called things.

That's his defining characteristic.

Let me welcome to the program the grand moftie of the stealth jihad.

Right.

Judy Zasser.

Or Zudi Jasser.

Zudi Jasser.

One of the two.

Yeah.

Zudi, how are you?

Great, Glenn.

Thank you for having me.

Boy, you know, those responses sort of make me feel like I did the right thing by calling

these guys out.

You know, I mean, listen, I get it.

We're a minority movement.

I get it that we have we're underdogs.

But the issue and the reason why I finally needed to speak out is, you know, listen, over the last few months, from Stephen Kirby posting on Spencer's website, others, there's two characteristics that need definition of the alt-jihad.

Number one, they view Islam as monolithic, a one entity, a monopoly, no other ideas within it.

And two, they view reformers as having no hope, as liars.

They constantly call me a liar about my scripture that I interpret and reinterpret in a different way from the original Arabic.

So fine, I'm not trying to take away their free speech.

I know they're anti-jihad, but how do they differ from the useful idiots on the left who are apologists and say that Islam is one, it's beautiful, there's nothing wrong with the misogyny in Saudi Arabia, Islam is peaceful.

How does that monopoly on Islam being positive, how is their yang, not the ying, to the saying that Islam is all one and the mafia of Islam is it.

And Zudis are just aberrations.

I mean, they're actually doing the same thing by taking the oxygen out of what we're trying to do and reform.

And when there's no hope for our work, we have to call it out.

So, Zudi, I have to,

I'm sorry, I haven't been following

this trial that you're going through right now until

last night.

And I tried to figure out what this is about.

And apparently, you sent out a declaration of principles to all the mosques, or many of the mosques

and you asked them to sign on as as co-signers and and many of them didn't in fact I think only what was it 40 did

and what they're trying to say is see Islam is a sham and there's nobody behind you when

if I have this right I look at it in a different way that you are Martin Luther who's just nailed the demands up on the church door,

and they're expecting Martin Luther to have all of the priests.

How many of the priests decided to join Martin Luther?

Well, not very many, especially at first,

and they would call Martin Luther a failure.

Am I reading this right?

Yeah, pretty close.

I mean, I think our role models for what I do are John Locke, Thomas Paine, Jefferson.

We're trying to create the space for Martin Luther's.

I realize I don't have a degree in Sharia, but the

Reformation in Europe gave space to the Enlightenment scholars to have room to do their work.

When we sent that declaration out, these guys were writing at, Spencer was publishing Kirby's work that said we were dead on arrival, that basically we were hopeless.

And we nailed those declarations out knowing that the establishment, the Islamic establishment would definitely reject it, but we proved our point.

If they were moderates, they would have signed on, and actually, the Islamists on the left would have proven us wrong by saying, oh, they are peaceful.

Well, no, we proved our right that Islamists are supremacists, and as Geller says, they're Nazis, but she's not fighting the Nazism of Islamism.

She thinks all of Islam is hopeless and a monopoly, and us Muslims are lying that are trying to reform from within.

So, you're all we're trying to do.

So, so, so, let me give it, let me give a clearer example.

She says that

she's fighting Nazism,

but actually what she's fighting is all Germans.

And if anyone who says, I am not a Nazi,

I was fighting against the Nazis, they're automatically lying because all Germans are Nazis.

So anybody who says that they are trying to reform, I am a peaceful Muslim, even though you're proving

the sunshine and lollipops left wrong and saying, look, no,

these guys are not who the left is saying they are.

This is part of the Nazi party, but there are these Germans here that are fighting, but there are many Germans inside of

those mosques, if you will, that are only there because they're afraid they're going to be killed by the stormtroopers.

Am I right on that?

Exactly.

I mean, this is why her verbiage, her messaging is exactly what comes out of the Supreme Council of Iran, the Saudi Wahhabis, the Al-Azhar universities, the establishment that whips and flogs Muslims like myself.

In the country where we can do this work, there's actually an al-jihad movement that is basically doing the bidding of those governments by saying, oh, the mafia of Islam is it.

There are no reformers.

There is no reform possible.

So therefore, yes, they ignore the fact, Glenn, that we are contrite.

I admit Islam has a major problem within it.

We're frustrated.

It has cancer.

We are in the 15th century.

But we need at least a little oxygen.

Give us some breathing room to say, you know what, maybe there's reform possible.

But when they say it's terminal, when John Guandolo posts on his site and says Sebastian Gorka, because he said that reformers need to be supported, is unfit for duty and says the jazzers of the world are utter nonsense and calls us a fantasy Islam.

How does that actually then give us room to operate and let Americans see a solution?

I mean, I mean, I'm a doctor.

When I see patients that have cancer, I just say, Oh, let's call hospice, see you later.

No, everybody needs hope.

Our movement is about hope.

We admit we're a minority, but give us some hope for crying out loud, or else you're part of the alt-jihad.

And I see now why you're calling it the alt-jihad, because it is part of the alt-right movement.

This all-or-nothing Nazi kind of

mentality of the alt-right

needs all Muslims to be bad.

And

I didn't call it right because I think it sort of exists throughout the left and the right in America that there are two groups on each extreme that view Muslims in a monolith.

Either Muslims are all peaceful, no problem, it's psychiatric or criminal, or on the other side, there's either terrorists or terrorists in waiting.

And that's not the Islam I teach my kids.

Granted, they can say I'm a liar about the narrative of the Prophet Muhammad, but do you think that the Islam I teach my kids demonizes and says the Prophet Muhammad is irredeemable?

That's not how you reform Islam.

We have to come up, call it mythology, call it what you want.

We have to come up with narratives of the Prophet Muhammad that are 21st century narratives and call that reform and renew the branding of Islam to an American type of Islam that's compatible with our constitution.

And if we can't make that distinction, Americans are going to get confused that there's no solution except this cataclysmic battle against 25% of the world's population.

And that's just absurd.

Tell me one last thing.

Ali, is it Alijah Azerbagovic?

I don't know how to say.

Huge fan.

We're huge.

Yeah, huge fan.

Do you know the name by the way, I butchered it?

Yes, Elijah Izbegovich.

You know, listen, on my podcast, I talked about many scholars that affected me.

And Izbegovich was the president of Bosnia.

He was in prison 15 years.

He talked about humanism and Islam.

You know, was he an Islamist?

Yeah, he was.

So listen, I'm not an Islamist, but there's books that affected who I am.

Martin Luther was an anti-Semite.

Justin had slaves.

There are many people that affected who we are that had things in their lives.

So Spencer then publishes that I used

Islamic supremacist as a source of reform.

That's absurd.

We don't take authors in total.

We take some of their messages.

I mean, if there was an author, I could tell you is a reformer, we would just use him and say, let's follow him.

But no, we had to create or invent the Muslim reform movement that has 30, 40 different scholars that we use to inform what we're doing.

Is Begovich's book on Islam between East and West has a defense of secular humanism as the ideas of humanism being central to part of Islamic ideas.

I don't buy his declaration.

I reject it.

Our Muslim reform movement rejects it.

But what they want to do is cherry-pick things I say to say that, oh, that proves that I'm a stealth jihadist.

So therefore, forget the last hundreds of articles and books and speeches I've given.

This proves that Jester is actually lying.

I mean, that's not American.

That's not

Zudi, I have known you.

Was I the first national host to bring you to the forefront?

Absolutely.

Back in 2006 on CNN.

Okay, so 2006.

I've known you since 2006, and I've heard you passionate about many things.

I sense something different in your voice this time.

A real sense of

not despair,

but overwhelming frustration here from people who you would hope that would be

reasonable.

Am I sensing something here or is it just hogwash?

You're right.

I mean,

I was blessed to have parents that came to the freest country in the world, and I'm getting squeezed from both sides of the political spectrum.

And folks that are with me with a common enemy, I don't care if they believe Islam is evil or whatever as a faith, but at least give us room to operate and don't say the same things about me that the theocrats of Saudi Arabia and Iran say.

Give us a little bit of room and say, well, okay, fine, a little benefit of the doubt that maybe there are versions we're minority.

And in this country, when I hear this discourse between these two extremes, where are we supposed to operate?

It's frustrating.

Sudhi Jasser, I admire you, sir.

And if Pamela Gellard doesn't know why Glenn Beck gives airtime to this voice,

maybe the rest of the country can understand it in just the last 10 minutes.

I think you have an important voice that has been silenced by what was the left for most of the last 10 years

and now apparently being silenced by the right or wanting to be silenced, the alt-right.

And

it's just as wrong.

And I stand with you, Zudi, and anything I can do to help expose

you to more people, I will do.

Anything I can help, I will do.

I think you have an important voice, and I sure appreciate your willingness to continue to stand.

Well, God bless you.

Thank you, Glenn.

Appreciate it.

You bet.

You will.

His podcast is ontheblaze.com/slash radio.

You should listen to it.

Another thing, he threw out a lot of names, and a lot of them you might not be familiar with.

One that he did mention that said, hey, you know, we need to give Zudi Jasser room to move and

show that this can be reformed with Sebastian Gorka.

That is a top advisor to Donald Trump, what he's talking about there.

So when you talk about where this battle is happening,

it's not on the right.

It's not on the Donald Trump level.

It's way out in the wilderness of Richard Spencer and Pamela Geller and all these other people out there.

But it's important to know that in the Trump administration, they're looking at Zudi Jasser as someone who is a real hope to solve this problem.

And, you know,

thank God for that.

I think you're right to sense that despair in him, but that's encouraging, right?

Oh, it's very encouraging.

This is the guy I've been since 2006.

I've been saying Bush needed to listen to, Obama needed to listen to, the world needs to listen to.

He gets it.

He really gets it.

And if you just want to hate Islam, he's not your guy.

But if you believe, I mean, I was just in a land where people are worshiping a half-elephant, four-armed lady.

I mean, I don't even, I mean, you know,

what the hell is that?

Is what I was thinking.

Okay.

What are the people like?

If I'm going over, my job is to destroy all those people that have the elephant idol.

Well, good luck with that.

I don't want to join you.

If you would like to

help people get closer and closer to the truth and out of error, then let's have a conversation.

I don't want to be the destroyer of anything unless you're trying to destroy everybody else.

And that's what Islamists do.

That's not what Zudi Jasser and millions of good Muslims do.

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You know, it's amazing to me that

the alt-right says,

how dare Glenbeck, why would he ever give voice to,

well,

I give voice to Zudi Jasser because I happen to agree with him, but that's not everybody who just gets a voice, the people that I agree with,

you know, on the Blaze, which I do not run.

One of the other voices is Tommy Laron.

And she had one of these guys that Zudi was talking about on her show.

What, on Monday?

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Next, communism.

What is communism?

The history of communism.

Part two.

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In the last episode, we all learned about how socialists and communists worked with the Nazis in order to achieve their ideal society.

Despite how bloody and violent the road was to get there, there is no doubt that the atrocities of Hitler are rightfully recognized as beyond abhorrent.

But we have to continue to be vigilant to make sure they never happen again.

We must never forget.

In this episode, another story of genocide that, for some reason, history has erased.

Growing deep within the roots of socialism is a brutal and dismissive view of human life.

Jonah Goldberg, author of Liberal Fascism, The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning, explains.

The essence of Marx is simply that the universe is run by these cold, material, impersonal forces, and that over time, we are going to see us move from the feudal through the capitalist to the socialist to the communist stage.

Along the way, a lot of people are going to get killed.

And Marx was completely fine with this.

Today, most have forgotten the scale of the Soviet atrocities, particularly what may have been their most horrific.

It began long before Hitler's horror was revealed.

Popular uprising had become a problem in the Ukraine.

Their spirit of individualism threatened the grand design of Moscow.

Stalin decided to take steps and correct the problem.

Stalin forced peasants to give up their farms under the banner of collectivization.

Stalin took everything,

their independence, their livelihoods, and even their food, plunging the Ukraine into famine.

And while the people were starving, it wasn't because the food wasn't growing.

Grain production was skyrocketing.

Instead of giving the grain to starving people, the Soviets exported it to fund their centrally planned industrialization.

How the Soviets dealt with the hunger was inhuman.

The forced famine that resulted was so horrific, the situation so desperate that there were even widespread reports of cannibalism.

Rutgers University professor Taras Hunchek recalls.

I was once with a group of people going to one part of Ukraine and I said, is there some older lady that that could tell me something about what happened?

What the woman told him next,

he would never forget.

And she said, Oh my god, I really don't like to talk about that.

She says, You see, there is this house on the top of the hill there.

A mother ate her daughter.

She was already insane because people usually reach the level of insanity.

And then she committed suicide.

How did the Soviets deal with this?

They printed posters that said, to eat your own children is a barbarian act.

This period is known as the Holodomor, roughly translated as murder by hunger.

These intentional policies resulted in murder as efficient as has ever been seen in human history.

Most know that the horrors of the Holocaust resulted in the deaths of approximately 6 million Jews.

But what many don't know is that the government-designed starvation in the Ukraine caused the deaths of between 7 and 10 million in just one year.

None of this is meant to diminish the horrors of the Holocaust.

The pure evil that inspired it is above question and must be remembered vividly and at all costs.

Though, in addition, the other victims of vicious governments who have treated human life as nothing but a speed bump to their grand design must also be remembered.

One of the most disgusting things about the way we talk about communism is you have people talk about it as if it was this well-intentioned social experiment.

But even at the level of first principles of the sort of planning sessions, it was planned and premeditated mass murder on a massive scale.

The New York Times now acknowledges their role in the propping up of Stalin's regime by their reporter, Walter Duranty.

He called the forced famine in the Ukraine mostly bunk and viciously justified the millions dead by saying, you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.

He reported, no, there is no famine in Ukraine, but there is widespread mortality due to diseases of malnutrition.

Yet, still, the Times wrote in a book review that despite the fact that Friedrich Engels, one of the founders of communism, was an advocate of ethnic cleansing, he would have been a fine man to drink with.

And it is surely true that Engels' larger critique of capitalism resonates down the ages.

Each year, Ukrainians gather to remember the Holodomor Holodomor by lighting 25,000 candles.

Why 25,000?

Because during this intentional famine, they lost 25,000 people every single day.

Allowing this to happen one more time would be unforgivable.

The totalitarian system established by Stalin was responsible for murdering millions

of innocent people

in the most horrendous way and nobody

was interested

in knowing about it.

The question is,

what kind of people

are we?

In the next episode, we'll learn about another genocidal dictator who the left avoids bringing negative attention to.

In fact, it's one of their heroes, Che Guevara.

Tomorrow on the Glenbeck program, in chapter three of the truth about communism, you'll learn how a liberal hero and pop culture icon tortured the people of Cuba.

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Please spread these.

Please, people do not know the history of communism.

And that particular today's serial is really important for a couple of reasons.

One, the New York Times, Walter Duranti,

was a guy who

would excuse anything because he wanted the dream of communism to be true.

And so whatever it was.

Whatever it was, you know, I'm going to dismiss this because

we want this to be true.

So he would dismiss things.

We cannot be those people.

No matter if we want our side to win or not, it has to be true.

So reason number one today is important.

Number two,

that happened in the Ukraine.

What is Russia fighting for right now?

What is, where is the tension happening?

Why are the people of the Ukraine standing up to Vladimir Putin?

Because it was Stalin and the former Soviet Union

that they remember, that

killed 10 million of their parents or grandparents.

They remember and they do not want to get into that situation again.

Which side are we on?

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Excuse me.

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I have some big news.

I have some big news if you're an animal masseuse.

Now, I don't know how many animal masseuses there are in our listening audience.

Well, we're the number three biggest talk radio show, but we're number two among animal masseuses.

Are we?

Yes.

I would like to talk to an animal masseuse, a licensed animal masseuse.

Only licensed animal masseuses can be members of the National Association of Animal Massey.

Animal Masseus.

If you are an animal masseuse,

an auctioneer, a boxing announcer, a fishing guide, a landscape architect, manicurist, or horse floater.

That sounds dirty.

Now, I'll be honest, that sounds dirty.

What?

I don't know what that is.

Jeffy probably does.

It's like a fluffer for horseborn.

That's kind of what it sounds like, doesn't it?

I mean, depending on which sites you go to.

You're right.

Now, what is an animal?

What's a horse floater?

We actually did discover this on Patton Stew yesterday.

It appears to be something equivalent to a horse dentist.

They call it a horse floater because the float is the file that they file the horse's teeth down with.

And why that's called a float, no one knows.

We don't.

No one knows.

Okay, so here's the thing.

Washington is

deciding now that in the Washington House of Representatives, so this is Washington state,

that they have too many people applying for a license.

They don't need to have everybody apply for a license.

So those

occupations are targeted for delicensing.

Now, what a ridiculous premise and world we live in that animal masseuse up until this thing supposedly

needed to have a license.

Or a landscape architect.

Yeah, like if you don't need them by their work.

Now, hang on just a second.

Maybe a

landscape architect because maybe on huge projects, they could cause mudslides or things like that if they don't know what they're doing with the land.

They could also mess up your property if they don't know what they're doing.

Right.

But that's your property.

But depending on the scale of things, but an animal masseuse, come on, I need a license to be an animal masseuse.

What is that to?

You're going to give a massage.

Is that in case the animals are walking by and going, I don't know, that looks like a shady massage bar.

Some states won't even let you do it if you have, if you've gone to school for a horse massage, then they make you go back to become a veterinarian so that you actually have a license to be able to massage the horses.

Just saying.

Jeffy knows too much.

My grandfather was a jack of all trades.

He did a little of everything.

Horseboating?

He probably did.

If you have horseboats, he was a vet, but he wasn't a vet.

He was an auctioneer, but he wasn't.

I mean,

I remember him doing the big cattle auctions and

he could do the whole, you know,

he could do all that.

He didn't have a license for that.

he was a sheriff he worked he was a machinist he worked for boeing i'm not a law breaker i'm gonna just go with you do need a license to be a sheriff uh yes

no but i'm saying no but i'm a sheriff you get that's an elected office think of all the people you don't need that is the license of it right yeah you need a badge yes you need a badge that's an idea but here's the thing why would you need a license to be an animal masseuse are you good at it or not right okay and first of all i i don't know who's going to answer the horse because that's the one that would need to know i don't know how they would know know if you're good.

Well, the owner would.

I mean, honestly, I don't know.

How would the owner know who they had to massage?

I will tell you,

I'll sit in the stall smoking cigarettes and watching Amazon, and then somebody will knock on the door.

Are you almost done?

Yep, almost done in here.

The horse is like, I know you're not.

He's loving it.

He's loving it.

Another crazy one on there that we haven't mentioned is boxing announcer.

So you can announce football or baseball without a license, but for boxing, you got to have a license.

That's really important.

Will you know if it's the right hand or the left hand?

You gotta tell.

Take the test and let us know.

I mean, that is ridiculous.

See, in my

when I first got into it, and Pat too, and I bet you, Jeffy,

we used to have what was called our third phone license.

Third class, yeah.

Yeah, your third class license, and it was a radio telephone license.

That's why it was called your third phone.

First phone meant that you could fix the

transmitter,

but you had to have certain basic understanding of how the transmitter worked to be able to be on the radio.

Right.

Which is a bad practice, which ended.

You had to know if the station was in compliance with its effective radiated power at all.

Correct.

Now, I forgot that formula a good long time ago, but they eliminated that too

a long time ago.

Yeah.

So now you don't need to have a license.

But I will tell you, I talked to Ted Koppel, and he said, maybe maybe we should have a license for journalists maybe you shouldn't be able to post things online you shouldn't just be able to start a blog that's the progressive without a license that's the progressive mindset though right i mean it is the mindset is it it's only legitimate if there's a license the government at gives it its legitimacy and that's where the complete split is and here's the problem i was talking to a friend of mine he said you know glenn um you know i know you know i know if you know you're into liberty and freedom but there are some things that we all all have to agree on.

For instance, you know,

schooling.

Schooling, I mean, you know, you say that you want freedom of choice to be able to go into whatever school you want, but Glenn, most people are not smart enough to figure out what school their kids need.

And I said, wow.

Right.

Is that an awful frame of mind?

First of all, most people,

most people absolutely are smart enough.

There's no need for them to even think about it because my job is just to put you up at the bus stop.

So I stop thinking about it.

Do they know what's right for their kid?

Yeah, when their responsibility is given back to them and you're responsible for raising that kid, yeah, they are smart enough to figure that out.

If I said to that person, so what happens if I was in charge?

And I thought you were putting your kid in the wrong school.

Should I be able to say that you're not smart enough?

Well, no.

I mean, because I'm smart enough to figure that out.

And that's the thing.

Conservatism,

that thing.

And progressivism breaks down when you say,

when you think you can make that choice, because the point is to allow the person who actually is stupid to make the stupid choice.

That's okay.

It's their freaking life.

And if that's what they want to do with their life, they want to make continual stupid choices, as I pointed, point at Jeffy, that is okay.

You have to be able to let go and let that happen sometimes.

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Bernie Sanders, back in the news, people are going to die if we follow Trump care.

But is that a problem?

Apparently, not a scare tactic either.

Yeah, no.

People are, millions of people are going to die.

Apparently,

to many in America, the CEOs, that's not a problem.

Apparently,

a large portion of, especially CEOs in Silicon Valley, are psychopaths.

Okay, really?

Huh?

Apparently, so, according to a speaker at the South by Southwest Festival, we begin there right now.

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Bernie Sanders

is at least honest.

This is why I do like Bernie Sanders.

He's at least honest.

Listen to this tweet.

Never lose sight of the fact that our ultimate goal is not just playing defense.

Our goal is Medicare for all, a single-payer system.

system.

He's at least the only one who has the balls to say,

we're not looking for a fix on this.

We're looking for a single-payer system,

which is why he's out now saying what he's saying.

That, again, not a scare tactic.

If the Affordable Care Act, if Obamacare is repealed,

we are looking at hundreds of thousands of people.

Can we stop for a second?

Can we just say,

could somebody please get Larry David

audio of him doing Bernie Sanders?

Because I don't think you can tell the difference between Bernie Sanders and Larry David.

It's just Larry David talking normally.

It's not him doing Bernie Sanders.

Right.

It's just him talking the way he normally talks.

They sound exactly alike.

In extension, losing that.

And how many of those folks will die?

How many of those folks will lose the opioid treatment that they now have?

It is is a lot.

I don't know exactly, but it is

a whole lot.

Billions, maybe.

Billions.

Billions.

It could be trillions.

I mean, there could be trillions of dead people.

It's laying all over, all over the place.

Piles of dead bodies everywhere.

Cholera sweeping through every land on this planet.

Dogs and cats sleeping together.

It's going to be bedlam.

It's going to be chaos.

It's just,

if you dare touch that bill, everyone dies.

Everyone.

Well, the way they're they're talking about touching it, I think

that there is a lot of suffering that is coming.

I mean, we had, we warned about a different kind of suffering.

Everybody was worried about, you know, these,

what was it, the 13 million to 26 million that needed health care coverage.

And we said, then why don't we develop a package for those 13 million or 26 million and leave everybody else?

Why punish everybody else who likes their insurance?

Correct.

Why do that?

But they wanted a single payer system for everyone.

They wanted socialized medicine.

And so we didn't go.

And we warned: if you do this, you might get a few people down at the bottom on health care, but you are going to disrupt and destroy the healthcare system in America.

And we're already seeing it happen.

And look at how many families are in significant pain right now because of Obamacare.

Now, Now, Trump comes along with Ryan.

He's not going to make it better.

It's only going to make it worse.

You can't fix.

It's broken.

It was never intended on working.

You can't fix this.

You've got to pull it up by the roots and then let's look at the 13 or 26 million that need health care.

It's such a great study, however, in the way progressivism works and why it's so successful.

Because look at this.

Republicans have control of everything, and they can't even bring themselves to repeal something that's brand new.

This is an entitlement that existed for the last, what, six years?

This is a brand new thing.

Forget about Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and reforming those.

This is a brand new thing that has been entirely unpopular since it began.

And they still can't repeal it.

No, it's not that they can't.

They won't.

That's what I mean.

I'm saying politically, they can't do it.

They can't bring themselves to do it.

I think they can.

I really can't.

Of course they can.

What I'm saying is they're not.

Do it.

I get you're right.

Theoretically, they could do it.

But what I'm saying is when an entitlement is started, these people are so spineless, they won't even move against something that's brand new.

What I'm saying, though, is I don't think it's spinelessness.

You think they just want it?

I think they want it.

Why, though, then did they oppose it initially?

Because you've got to oppose what the other side is doing.

Why did the other side go along with all of the

signing documents from the president?

Yeah.

Why would they go along with him just

having executive order after executive order and being fine?

Because it was their side.

Now they're suddenly against them.

I I mean, you're probably right.

And we were against them.

Now we're suddenly for them.

I see what you're saying.

And I think you're probably right on that.

It's interesting because if you went back in history in 2008, and none of this ever happened, none of the Obama care ever happened, and it was never even proposed.

And Barack Obama came to the plate and said, Here's my plan, and handed us, instead of the ACA, the AHCA, the new GOP replacement, and handed that bill,

nobody would have accepted it.

No one would have voted for it.

It would have been a massive expansion of government power, extreme

from what we were considering at the time.

But now, because of six years of

Obamacare,

and the Overton window, what the Overton window is, is you take something that is completely unreasonable now, and you just shift that window way down to truly insane.

Then when you come back to compromise, you settle on a place that was totally unreasonable.

It's just not insane.

So the progressives use the Overton window.

They shoot for insane.

They settle for ridiculous.

And then

it's not so ridiculous.

It's not so ridiculous.

As soon as it's ridiculous, then pretty soon you get to the insane because they just keep moving that window.

But the problem is, is we think there are honest brokers on each side.

They're not honest brokers on each side.

How many Democrats now are going,

my gosh, I mean,

yeah, I don't like Donald Trump at all,

but where the heck is the representation of me on my side?

I don't want universal Medicare.

Medicare?

That's not good.

I don't want...

the rest of the country to be swept into the VA hospital.

That's not a good system.

What's happening is instead of talking about the compassionate parts, Rand Paul, I think, was the one who was saying it.

You can't repeal it.

You have to go, you have to start first with what are we going to do for the 26 million people?

Let's make sure that those 26 million people, or whatever is on the edge, that we have something taken care of first.

We lead with that

because all anybody is talking about is how many people are going to suffer.

You know what?

There are going to be some suffering people.

And there are some suffering people now.

Let's reduce the number of suffering.

There will always be suffering people.

You're never going to be perfect.

Let's reduce the number of suffering people now.

And you know what?

A lot of the people that didn't have health care to begin with chose not to have health care.

It wasn't that they couldn't or they didn't have access to it.

They did.

Many of them, if not most, chose not to.

Okay,

and here's the reason.

Because I remember when I was 30, 25.

You're not worried about health care.

You're not worried about health care.

You don't care.

And if you get sick, you go to the doctor and you just pay for it.

So here is my, unless you're catastrophically sick.

Right.

So

here's the problem.

Here, and this is a great example.

The youth, the youth,

by you in your 20s buying health care,

You are paying for the health care now of the old people.

That's why we need you into the pool.

It's a charitable thing.

It's a massive wealth transfer is what it is.

I'm taking my money and helping the old.

And then when I'm old, somebody down at the bottom will be giving their money to me.

It's this from Donald Berdwick, one of the architects.

And that any healthcare funding plan that is just, equitable, civilized, and humane must, must redistribute wealth from the richer among us to the poorer and the less fortunate.

And there it was.

It's Marxism.

That's all it is.

It's just a massive Marxist program to transfer wealth.

Is that what we wanted in America?

Who was clamoring for that?

No one,

except for these progressives.

And I think this is actually, it brings up a pretty interesting sort of progressive Rorschach test.

Think about this for a moment.

The CBO, let's just assume everything the CBO said about this health care bill is true for a second.

Say it's true.

The main complaint is, hey, millions of people are going to drop off insurance.

Millions of people that are insured today are going to drop off.

Let's not question that for a moment.

Let's not question the CBO's analysis that millions of people are going to drop off because they were afraid of this fine and

they didn't want to pay the fine, so they decided to pay for insurance anyway.

Let's say that's true for a moment.

Is that a good thing?

or a bad thing.

Everyone will tell you that's a bad thing.

Millions of people lost their insurance.

Millions of people are not insured.

However, if they were insured because the government was going to fine them and they were taking their hard-earned dollars and spending them on something against their will, if they lose their insurance and make that decision for themselves, that is a good thing.

That is a good thing.

It's their money, their lives.

They get to choose what to do with them.

And the fact that

if you are a progressive and you think that's a terrible thing, well, they're making bad decisions.

You are controlling their lives.

They get to make those calls.

Here's the problem, because it's, it's, it's fake compassion.

If you want to be able to say everybody has to make their own decisions.

And if you choose not, you can afford it.

And most people.

It was a big number.

It was about half of the people who were uninsured could afford it.

Right.

And they just choose not to.

If you really want that system to work, then when it comes time and they've got a problem, you have to be willing to say,

sorry.

I'm sorry.

And we as a society are not looking to do that.

We're not going to do that.

Well, we are not going to do that.

As in this Republican plan, our pre-existing conditions existing.

All of those little catches that were in Obamacare and were controversial when Obamacare was passed are all in the GOP plan.

Because we're not willing.

And that's a good thing.

We're not willing to see our fellow man

be turned out of a hospital if they have cancer.

That's a good thing.

But how before either?

Right, correct.

They weren't before.

So how do you, how do you, the real question is, is how do we solve

a math problem while still having compassion?

Because insurance, if I, if, if I,

if I can buy in after I've been diagnosed with cancer, that's not insurance.

That's not insurance.

That's not something else.

Insurance is a bet.

And so the only way the insurance companies can work is if they are betting that this group of a thousand people are going to be healthy, more healthy than not.

As soon as that turns out to be different, they have to raise the rates.

Not only is it a bet, insurance is not just a bet.

It's a losing bet almost all the time.

Yes.

It's a bet that that insurance companies are in business because they know their side of the bet is the good side.

You're supposed to lose your insurance bets.

So when you can just come in and say, well, I know for a fact I have X, Y, and Z that's going to cost $100 million to fix, and

I would like to pay the normal insurance rate,

that's just a government program giving you things.

That's not insurance.

It's got nothing to do with insurance.

So how do we solve this with compassion

and still use the free market system that demands that sometimes there are losers?

How do you do it?

A hybrid doesn't work unless you take things like Medicare and you say, okay, for this small group of people,

we're going to take that small group of people and we are going to pay for that because of compassion, but not force everyone else into that.

Right.

And that's the thing.

You've got to be honest about it.

It's a program.

There's a story today we have in our prep here from Texas,

from Kevin Williamson over at National Review.

Here it is.

This is an example of Texas insurance companies and the Texas legislature is trying to force Texas insurance companies to provide hearing aids for children.

They want to make sure that they force it,

that to happen.

Now, the number of kids that have, it's about 0.2% are kids

are born without with hearing loss in one or both years.

Texas has about 400,000 births a year.

Assuming that all of the children born with hearing problems required $5,000 hearing aids that none of their families none of their families had the means to pay for them, that would imply an annual outlay of $4 million.

If you take a more rational approach to that, not every kid is not going to be able to have parents that can't afford it.

Then it's about 30%, let's say, $1.2 million.

That's the program.

If you just wanted to give every kid that could not afford

hearing aids, $1.2 million, instead,

they want to force everybody and everybody's insurance policy to cover these hearing aids because then they're not responsible for it.

The legislature doesn't have to come up with a way to pay for it.

It's just, well, the insurance companies are now forced to do it.

So now all of us get stuck paying for it.

And whether you think it's a good idea or not, we all want...

deaf children to have hearing aids if

it's needed.

Be honest about it.

Come out and sell

the program as it is.

Instead, they're trying to hide it through mandates, and that's wrong in Texas, as it's wrong in Washington.

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Look,

the best way to explain this, the best way to explain what's happening to our insurance companies is this.

Would anyone think it's fair to say to an auto insurance company, I'm not going to buy any auto insurance unless I'm in a wreck?

So when the police comes up and your car has been totaled and the other guy is being taken to the hospital.

Now you call All State and say, hey, I need a policy.

I need a policy.

Okay.

And they can't turn you down for the wreck you've just had.

That's exactly what's happening

in the medical.

How does all state survive if everyone gets to do that?

Well, if you, I don't know, have a law that mandates everyone use all state.

Is it one way to do it?

Well, I do have to have auto insurance, though.

I do have to have auto insurance.

Well, it's funny because that's what the left says.

You have to have auto insurance.

First of all, it's not true in every state, but still,

the bottom line is you're right.

It makes no sense if you can get it after the fact.

And while you have incredible compassion for people in those positions, you have to find a different way to handle it and deal with that issue rather than enforcing it on everybody.

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This is the Glenbeck program.

So the assistant varsity basketball coach at

North High in

Des Moines, Des Moines, Iowa.

The other team wore red, white, and blue during the the game.

And apparently the other side has a diverse student population, so that was offensive.

Oh, they can't wear red, white, and blue.

I don't quite understand that, but okay.

Okay, so the assistant

varsity basketball coach was quoted and

they were thinking.

In the news report.

What were they thinking?

I don't know.

They love the country.

Is that what they were thinking?

Well, do you know if that's accurate?

That they love the country?

No, that's an accurate quote.

Well, yeah, it came right out of his face.

I saw it on the

news.

I saw him say it.

Yes.

You said, well, what the hell were they saying?

Now, the only way that it could be out of context, I guess, is if he was talking about something else, but he wasn't.

Right.

Well, but

so we wrote, we reached out, and we wanted him to come on.

He said, I appreciate the offer, but I have to decline.

The story is overblown.

I don't think it is.

And my interview taken completely out of context.

So maybe it was, what were they thinking?

I side with the guys wearing red, white, and blue.

No.

Okay, well, why doesn't he come on and say that then?

No.

He says too many people believe everything they read blindly, and I'm tired of getting hate messages on Facebook from folks that don't even know the whole story.

Sorry.

He tells the whole story, sir.

Sorry, I'm passing on the interview.

Well, see, I don't think I want to go on and

do an interview with the two of you sitting here.

I mean, wow, listen to you.

Well, I mean, we'd let him tell his side, but we'd certainly express our side.

What, Stu?

Oh, no.

You're just, you just, you can't believe how mean, you you know, and how aggressive Jeffy and Pat are

on this story.

That's interesting.

Why is that it?

Does anybody know what he's talking about?

You were the one in the break encouraging him to go do read the stupid email.

And they're like, I can't believe,

why wouldn't I?

He wouldn't come up with you guys.

You guys are blessed.

What did I say when they handed it to him?

Pat was reading this, like, I appreciate the offer.

No, you don't, douchebag.

And I said, give it to me so I can read it without the Washington Post spin to it.

Right.

So I'm willing to take him at his word.

And there you go.

I'm not, because I saw his word come out of his face.

I saw words come out of his face.

Look,

I agree with you, Pat.

I agree that

he is now backtracking because.

Yeah, because he realized what a...

What a stupid thing to say that was.

I think what's closer and closer.

I think the real truth of what happened with that story is that he took it the wrong way.

Didn't realize it was something they did all the time and believed they were targeting his kids.

That's how you played that.

They do it all the time.

Coach is there.

I don't care if that was the first time they ever did it.

There's nothing wrong with wearing American flags.

You're talking about the action.

As long as you're not saying, we're Americans and you're not.

They're just dressing that way.

The other team could have dressed the same way.

Nobody would have said a word.

I think then fine.

The difference is the action versus the intention.

I'm going to look something up here.

I'm going to look something up here.

Whoa.

I'm reading Billy Holloway's book, Faultline.

And he says, how to be able to solve this?

One, you have to be informed.

I think we're informed on this story.

Yeah, we are.

Then, don't tell me what you believe.

Live what you believe.

What are your values and beliefs?

We put on the red, white, and blue flag.

We believe in America.

Amen.

Okay.

Got to make sure that you're living it.

Right.

So

the people that were wearing the red, white, and blue, they were living what they believe.

It wasn't about that, it was, it was team spirit for their school.

Why is it that somebody else is,

why is there a problem here?

Most likely because people on the other side took offense.

That was coming from them.

not from the other side.

They took offense to it because they weren't informed on the subject.

They didn't know these guys did this all the time.

And they're not living their principles of I am a refugee from a very oppressed place and I'm coming to the United States for shelter.

And the United States has taken me in, so I should enjoy seeing those colors.

I'm seeing somebody with an emotional colour.

I'm grateful.

I'm grateful that I live in a place with diversity.

Yeah.

How about the fact that I'm at a basketball game looking at other students wearing red, white, and blue, rather than I'm looking out the window at an ISIS fighter slicing the head off of somebody.

How about that?

I just changed our heart.

They got a game invented.

Okay, I got it.

Let me, can I get Billy Hollowell on?

Billy Hollowell has a new book called Fault Line, How Seismic Shift in Culture is Threatening Free Speech and Shaping the Next Generation.

This is really important to pay attention to because the facts and figures in this book are accurate and they are going to fundamentally transform us.

Billy, welcome to the program.

Hey, thanks for having me.

So let's go to, you talk about in the book,

you say, you know,

one of the biggest faults we have, and I don't want to misquote you, but basically that it is

the line between

being tolerant and being relative.

And we have slid into moral relativism where we need to be tolerant, but it has been used against us.

How do we first give me the facts or the stats on this, and then tell me how to fix that?

You know, we've got over half of the country saying that it's up to cultures to figure out what they think is moral, right?

So there's this baseline of morality is completely gone.

I mean, the majority of us are saying, oh, you just have to decide for yourself what you believe is true.

And that's specifically true with millennials.

51% of millennials believe that truth is relative.

So you have a big problem there.

And so that's sort of the starting point.

How do we fix it?

Well, you've you've got to acknowledge the problem first, which is that the Hollywood content we've seen, media, universities, all three of those have really reshaped the culture.

We've allowed that to happen.

And we've allowed that to happen because so many of us have disengaged.

So my big solution to this, and this is from a 30,000-foot level in Fault Line, is that we've got to get engaged.

We have to make good Hollywood content.

We have to make get involved in media.

We've got to be professors.

We have to be out there.

People who are Christians, conservatives, people who are complaining, you know, it's great to complain, but what are you going to do to fix the problem?

Yeah, we have to make an impact in the culture.

It's interesting that you note in the book, Billy, that 35% of millennials have no faith whatsoever.

They're atheists or agnostics.

Is it 35%?

So that number, in fact, and it's crazy because every two years, you know, a new study will come out.

It was 2015 that Pew first came out saying it was about 34, 35%.

Now we've got a poll out saying it's about 39 percent.

Now those people are, and here's sort of the hope.

They're atheist, agnostic, or just unaffiliated.

And the biggest chunk are unaffiliated, but those are the people who we're going to lose, right?

If we don't go out there and bring the message to them, we're going to totally lose them.

But the hope is, hey, they're not agnostic.

They're not atheists.

They believe in something.

But because of this chaos that we've created in culture and that we've allowed, they're just not sure what that is.

So we've got to get that message together.

Really, nobody, I mean, I think the churches are approaching, most of the churches, many of the churches are approaching these things all wrong.

They're still coming at it

with the same style of message.

The message has to remain true, but the same style of message.

And

if it's not the same

style, it's just

the same kind of almost judgmental message, except now it has

fog machines

and rock bands behind it.

People are not, millennials are not interested in talk.

They're interested in show me the results, do it.

Absolutely.

And so we've got a lot of Christian actors, which is great, right?

A lot of Christian journalists, which is wonderful.

But we need actors who are Christians, directors who are Christians.

I mean, look at Hacksaw Ridge.

Look at some of these films that tell really good stories.

And I think Christian movie making is great.

God's Not Dead, all that is fine.

If you want to preach to the choir, that's great, but that is not going to solve this problem.

We have got, I know you've talked about this a lot over the years, we have got to get engaged.

And I think the whole point here, you know, with this book is to show the problem, right?

These numbers, you mentioned the statistics.

A lot of us don't know.

We kind of have a feeling that Hollywood is off, the media is off, universities are off.

We see these anecdotal examples, but we don't really have the data.

And I wanted to really put that data out there and sort of show that there's this triangular dominance and sort of what I call this progressive privilege that has existed in these areas for too long.

And yes, we've got to complain about that, like I said, but we have to figure out how to tell the stories and do it in a way that reaches people and shows them, not just tells them, the message.

There was a video that came out viral, Billy, right after the

after the election that I saw a lot of people posting.

And it was, you know, a lot of the left was kind of coming out and saying, how could this have happened?

Donald Trump won.

Here's a guy who, you know, said, you know, he was going to grab women in ways and look how crass he is.

How is this the culture allow this?

The culture is getting so much more crass.

And this person pointed out, hey, wait a minute.

Have you guys noticed that every piece of our culture, forget the president, every piece of our culture has become more and more crass over a very long period of time and it's been cheered on by the left.

And you really go through that in the book and that the development from, you know, as we've gone through on television and in movies has become much more advanced to that

the anti-faith sort of side, and many people haven't even noticed it.

Well, and that's why you've got to look at the numbers from like 2007, 2002 to 2014, 2016.

When you look at what Gallup has measured and others have measured, I mean, moral acceptability on so many issues.

I mean, even polygamy.

You go down the line, it's insane because of the relativism, what people are now willing to accept.

We've got 67% of the country saying that having a baby outside of marriage is morally acceptable.

72% saying divorce is morally acceptable.

And these numbers have changed dramatically, even within the last decade, decade and a half.

And we have been pushing, we've allowed this to be pushed out.

We haven't been effective in our messaging.

And I think the fault line really kind of leaves people convicted a little bit.

And I hope

has us thinking, how can we do this?

Not all of us can be directors, actors, professors, but we have to figure out how we can at least encourage people, good people who have their values in check to enter into these arenas.

I have to tell you, though, Billy, the answer really is living it ourself.

I mean, here's, look, Donald Trump, you can blame Donald Trump on a lot of things if you want to talk just about him to the left.

You know, they try to pin, well, you take responsibility for him.

You know who Donald Trump is?

Donald Trump is the first Howard Stern president.

That's what he is.

He's a guest on Howard Stern that loved Howard Stern, played hard, and we all laughed and we all thought it was great.

And some stood against and said, no, this is immoral, this is wrong.

And those people were driven out of society because they have sticks up their butt.

But this became the mainstream culture.

And look, that's just how guys talk.

Yes, they do talk that way on Howard Stern.

And

now we seem to have a problem.

The left does, because

they don't like that.

Well, okay, but you were fine with it.

You're totally fine with it in Hollywood.

If anyone dare says, like clean films or clean pure flicks or whatever that is, where they want to edit and make things less crass, how dare you don't touch my art?

Well, they've created this environment.

I mean, they have created this very environment, which is so fascinating to me.

Everything that Donald Trump has represented and everything that both candidates represented in the general is basically what they have created.

And so they're kind of relishing in that and trying to figure out, you know, well, well, how did we get here?

Well, turn on primetime TV and you'll figure out how we got here.

I mean, you can't even, there's nothing you can watch with your kids outside of the middle and maybe a couple of other shows.

We tried to say that this is why character matters in the 90s when the women's organizations were defending Bill Clinton as just a rogue.

No.

That's like saying what Donald Trump said.

Well, that's all the way men.

No,

if that is the way men behave, men shouldn't behave that way.

Those are boys that behave that.

Men do not behave that way.

But it requires us to be consistent.

And I like this about your book.

You know, you talk about how most people can't even tell you what they believe.

95% of Christians, according to Billy in his book, cannot tell you what they believe.

Well, that's a real problem.

The first thing we need to do is figure out what we believe and then live it.

Absolutely.

Living it out.

That's the example we set, right?

And so

we've got to do that and we have to encourage other people, particularly millennials, because that's the generation this most impacts, although I'm sure the generation behind them will be hit even harder by this.

We've got to figure out how to have that presence, but doing it by living it first, I think, is the most important.

And that's what I encourage in Faultline.

And people can get more information at hollowellfaultlinebook.com.

Billy Hollowell, the name of the book, again, is Faultline.

Billy wrote for the Blaze for a long time, and I'm so proud of you and proud of your success and to see where you're going.

Thank you for everything that you're doing, Billy Hollowell.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Name of the book again is Faultline.

Now this.

North Korea testing missiles.

They're testing missiles in the same way that Iran is.

They're exploding the missiles at just the altitude where you would want an EMP to explode.

EMP is...

And for a long time, people were saying, oh, look how dumb they are.

This is another failed test.

Right.

No, that's what they were trying to do.

That's what they're trying to do.

And now we're sitting here, and the Pentagon says that is the number one threat against the United States, EMP.

Why?

One million, I'm sorry, 95%

of America,

95% of our population will die within the first year of an EMP.

Oh, don't exaggerate it.

The report is a very important thing.

It's only 90%.

There's an additional 5% of the population that would be a lie.

Wow.

What a liar this guy is.

Wow.

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That feud is ridiculous.

That's going on.

Also,

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Oh, geez.

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