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Well, it's another day and a thousand stories to cover.

We're going to start with the firing of the interim attorney general.

Was Donald Trump right to do it?

The answer:

right now.

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Hello, America.

Welcome to the program.

Glad you're here.

Last night I turned on TV.

I'm in Los Angeles,

and I thank you so much for listening today.

But I got in last night.

I don't even know what time it is,

and turned on the television, and Donald Trump had just fired the interim attorney general.

And they were calling it the Monday Night Massacre.

Now, in case you don't know what the Monday Night Massacre is referring to, which, by the way, is crazy, crazy to compare it to the Saturday night massacre.

This comes from the Nixon administration.

It is absolutely amazing to me how the press

is so

out of control.

They are hurting themselves even more.

to refer to what happened last night as the Monday Night Massacre, to to immediately within minutes within minutes compare it to what Richard Nixon did is obscene.

What happened on the Saturday night massacre is Richard Nixon was being investigated for Watergate.

His appointees would not fire the special investigator.

They had a special investigator to look in to see if Nixon was indeed a crook.

And he said to his Justice Department, you have to fire the independent investigator.

And they said, no.

And he said, I'm telling you, I'm the president of the United States.

You'll fire them.

And they said, Mr.

President, it is independent.

We will not fire them.

Now, what's the difference?

Here's what happened last night.

The Muslim ban goes into effect.

And

the Justice Department is the one that has to police the ban.

Are you doing it?

Are you doing the right thing?

Are you following the law?

Which, by the way, the problem is the law is an executive order.

Are you following the law?

The interim attorney general says no.

Now, not on legal reasons.

The Saturday night massacre, it was on legal reasons.

This wasn't a legal reason.

She said her morals told her she couldn't do that.

Not the law, her morals.

What else is the difference?

The difference between the Saturday night massacre and the Monday night massacre was that she wasn't appointed by the president.

Here's a woman who was appointed by Barack Obama.

Here's the temptation.

A lot of people, a lot of people like to make a name for themselves

when they are

when they have the opportunity at the very end of an administration to go out in flames, to go out as the hero.

And I think that's what she did.

She saw an opportunity, and I guarantee you, she is going to be a hero of the left.

This was a purely political and career move.

That's all this was.

There was nothing legal legal about it.

Her job is to enforce the law.

Now, if she wants to have some sort of moral reason to do that, she can do that.

But don't confuse that with something that happened in the 1970s that was about deep corruption

and legal reasons.

So last night, I tweeted something.

I don't even remember.

Stu, maybe you can look up my tweet.

Because I was talking to Stu this morning, and we haven't even had a chance to talk about this yet.

He said,

I gather you're against him firing the Attorney General last night.

And I said, no.

And he said, oh, I read your tweet.

I imagine.

Yeah, it was the one about you talking about them being betrayed.

Read the tweet.

You were betrayed?

This PR is unlike anything I've ever seen from the White House before.

Principles over parties, return to the balance of constitutional powers.

Yes, okay.

This is the problem with 144 characters.

Yeah, yeah, I have it.

The problem I had was read this PR, this press release.

Read it from start to finish.

The entire government is now starting to speak and reflect the actual language of Donald Trump.

Either that or he's writing the press releases, which I hope to God he has other things to do.

But

listen to the language of this.

You have it, it, Stu?

I can get it.

Oh, okay.

I'm sorry.

I thought it was connected to the tweet.

It was, yeah, no.

Hold on one second.

Yeah, White House statement here.

It's loading.

There we go.

All right.

White House statement.

The acting Attorney General Sal Yates has betrayed the Department of Justice by refusing to enforce a legal order designed to protect the citizens of the United States.

This order was approved.

as to form and legality by the Department of Justice Office and the legal counsel.

Ms.

Yates is an Obama administration appointee who is weak on borders and very weak on illegal immigration.

It's time to get serious about protecting our country.

Calling for tougher, it does sound like Trump.

It sure does.

Calling for tougher vetting for individuals traveling from seven dangerous places is not extreme.

It is reasonable and necessary to protect our country.

Okay, stop.

So I agree with him.

This is reasonable.

This is not a ban.

However, the problem is he wants both sides.

When he signed it, he said it was a ban.

As he was was signing it, he said,

I'm doing the Muslim ban.

He used the word ban.

So

why?

Why would you do that?

Because everyone is playing populist politics.

Why did she refuse to move and put herself in a position where she knew she had to be fired?

Because she knew she would be popular with her side.

Why did he use the word ban when it is a pause?

If you don't want to inflame things, what you do is you're signing this, you say, look, this is, I want to make it clear, this is not a ban.

This is a pause.

All I'm doing is pausing so we can look into how we're vetting people and make sure we're safe.

That's what you do.

But everyone is playing into populism.

And so he immediately said, it's a ban.

But then he later said, it's not a ban.

Well, which one is it?

And he knows which one it is.

It's not a ban.

But he wants to play in to his crew that wants the ban, that want that tough stand.

He's no longer playing, or he hasn't ever, but the president is no longer playing into the center.

He's continuing to do what Barack Obama did.

He is not trying to embrace the entire American public.

He's embracing the people who think like him.

She was embracing the people who look like her or or think like her.

That's what happened.

And that's I heard last night on CNN.

I watched

I watched all the networks last night and I could not

take it.

You can see if you read my tweets by the end, I'm just losing my mind.

But I actually heard,

who was it?

Who's the guy that does that globalist thing on CNN?

That's hard to narrow that down.

Farid

Zakaria.

Okay.

Zakaria and

Alan Dershowitz were going back and forth and yelling at each other.

And I shouldn't say that.

Dershowitz wasn't.

But Dershowitz was saying, look, I'm not a fan of Donald Trump, but what he did here was legal.

It was right.

She was, you know, yada, yada, yada.

Zakaria at one point,

in the middle of Dershowitz just explaining, said, I'm not even listening to you, Alan.

I'm not listening to your explanation anymore.

I'm just not listening to you, Alan.

I'm like, what?

Alan Dershowitz is one of the brightest attorneys on the planet.

And I don't agree with him all the time, but he has proven himself to be fairly reasonable on almost any topic.

Again, I don't agree with him, but he's reasonable.

For someone like Fareed to interrupt and just say, I'm not listening to you, that's when I turned the TV off.

I'm like, nobody's listening to each other anymore.

I was watching Fox.

What did Fox do?

Fox was the language of Fox

made me or people like me feel pretty good.

I'm like, yeah, get them.

I had to turn it off because I'm like, this is not helpful.

This is not helpful.

Honestly, I looked at my wife last night and I said,

is it just us?

Is it just us that sees

how close to the edge we are?

And if we don't start listening to each other, if we don't start

calming things down and not saying that it was a massacre last night, it was not a massacre.

Let me give you this.

Read, let's see if I can find this.

Try this off for side.

In an article published Sunday on Medium, if you don't know what Medium is, Medium is a really

very smart

blog site.

It's like

it's Facebook for people who have patience.

Okay?

You can go and you can write posts, but it's not designed for clicks.

It's designed for reading time.

So it'll tell you this is a five-minute read, this is a ten-minute read.

And instead of tracking clicks and shares and everything else, what they track is how long you've spent on that article.

And so if people read the entire article and spend time with that article, that article is moved up.

It shows that it's engaging people and they're thinking and reading it.

So it's a very different website.

But it is, it's it's much more geared toward, I think, a Silicon Valley kind of mindset.

So it's, it's, um,

it has very interesting points of view.

Article published Sunday on Medium.

Google privacy engineer Yatan Zunger examined the details of what he believed was a sordid conspiracy among President Trump and his inner circle, which will lead to an eventual coup d'état.

Now listen to this.

First, he cited CNN,

writing, it's notable that this, that the DHS lawyers objected to this

ban, this Muslim order, specifically the exclusion of green card holders, as illegal, and also pressed that there be a grace period so people currently out of the country wouldn't be stranded.

And they were personally overruled by Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller.

Also notable is that career DHS staff, up to and including the head of customs and border patrol, were kept entirely out of the loop

until the order was signed.

Next, he cites The Guardian, writing, the mass resignations of nearly all senior staff of the State Department on Thursday were not, in fact, resignations, but a purge ordered by the White House.

This leaves almost no one in the entire senior staff of the State Department at this point.

It leaves the State Department entirely unstaffed during these critical first weeks when orders like the Muslim ban, which they would resist normally, are coming down.

He then added that DHS agents were still detaining and still deporting individuals even after two major court rulings that said they can't do that.

Some of what Zunger writes is true, the story goes on,

inso much as it comes from CNN and other reputable outlets.

But it appears to be an extrapolation or interpretation of the news.

However, in the end, Zunger seems to believe that all the chaos means one thing.

Quote,

the administration is testing the extent to which the DHS and other executive agencies can act and ignore orders from other branches of the government.

This is as serious as it can possibly get.

All of the arguments about whether Order X or Y is unconstitutional means nothing if elements of the government are executing them and the courts are being ignored.

Yesterday was a trial balloon for a coup d'état against the United States.

It gave them useful information.

He also wrote that the orders are being made via the inner circle of Trump, Bannon, Miller, Priebus, Kushner, and possibly Flynn, and that the gutting of agencies and the shuffling of the National Security Council represents something nefarious.

He speculated that Trump will want his personal security to take a higher position, writing, Keith Schiller, should continue to run the personal security force, which would take over an increasing fraction of the Secret Service's job.

He concluded: Especially if combined with the DHS and the FBI, which appears to have remained loyal to the President throughout the recent transition, this creates an armature of a shadow government, intelligence, and police services, which are not accountable through any normal means answerable only to the president.

Zunger has chosen

to view the absolute chaos of the last 72 hours as a trial balloon for a coup d'état against the United States.

Nothing is out of the realm of possibility, and Trump's rhetoric suggests he views governing with a more centralized eye than most.

However, there is another possibility that bears mentioning.

By the way, this comes from Ben Shapiro's website.

I want to explain this and show what the other probable explanation is.

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So I read the Daily Wire almost every day, and this story that is showing what

some on the left are now starting to say is the conspiracies of, you know, a coup d'état that

he's going to become an authoritarian dictator, and this is a trial balloon,

is amazing to me, especially since they are so

non-self-aware

that that was just that that was ridiculous and horrible to say about a human being just, oh, I don't know, six weeks ago.

Now, of course, you can say anything about this president.

Daily Wire writes, Trump, Bannon, and Kirschner

have provided another possible meaning behind what's happened in the last few days besides a coup d'état.

They have absolutely no governing experience.

Stephen Miller and Reince Prievis have some relevant political experience, but these five men are operating the executive branch as it has never been operated before.

Pandemonium is a possible outcome.

It's akin to plucking an intern from the mailroom and making him a CEO of a Fortune 500 company and then giving him four other mailroom interns, one that have been slightly around for slightly longer as his advisors.

While all things are possible, it's best to look for what's most probable.

And in the first six days, incompetence or basic corruption overruled a brilliantly and systematically executed coup d'état.

Time will further reveal the machinations of this group of men, but for now, it's more than premature to suggest a conspiracy.

I read this story to you because

the world has gone insane.

And the left is going further than anything that we ever said.

I mean, remember the people who were full-fledged,

Barack Obama is going to, he's going to take the government, and we're all going to be in prison camps.

Do you remember those guys?

We all said, no, relax.

I don't think that's going to happen.

Not too many people on their side are saying, no, relax.

That's not going to happen.

And certainly, by the press reporting last night that it was the Monday night massacre,

instead of saying, guys,

it's not.

Relax is not helping things.

Back in a minute.

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Mercury.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Edit 8727 BCK is our phone number.

I'd like to talk to you.

I'd like to hear what you're feeling

about

what's happening.

As I'm watching this as a casual observer,

I'm actually siding with, in many ways, with Donald Trump because this is not a ban.

This is a pause, and it is totally reasonable to do a pause.

However, the way he has done it is sloppy at best, but the media has gone insane, and so has the left.

There is, there doesn't seem to be any restraint

from anyone on what's happening.

And hey, here's the good news.

He announces the SCOTUS pick tonight.

Tonight at 8 o'clock.

Don't miss it.

And hi, Jinx, and Sue.

So

I got to believe that's going to just, that's going to pet the cat.

It's going to really, no, that'll make everything much, much better when he announces his SCOTUS pick.

We'll get to that at the top of the hour, more on the

pause in Muslim immigration coming up in just a second.

But let me introduce you to somebody real quick because this is somebody who we hired, I don't know, a couple of years ago

as an assistant.

And she's a veteran.

She worked for the Air Force.

She was doing something, satellite.

knocking out nuclear missiles in space or something.

I have no idea.

But

she started out as an assistant and now she's a manager of some sort and she walks around and I'm not kidding you.

She now she'll stop me in the hall and she'll be like Glenn, listen, this is what you need to do.

And I'll be like, okay, Jessica.

So she's practically running the place now.

And Jessica is on the phone with us.

Hi, Jess.

How are you?

Hi, Glenn.

How are you this morning?

Very good.

So you have tried to talk to me about this contest that we're running about 400 times and I

never

be honest with you.

I catch you at odd times.

You're painting.

You're running the halls.

You're trying to get to your next shoot.

Yeah, okay.

It was either that or I wasn't really listening.

But

so tell me, because this is a really exciting thing that we're doing.

We're trying to, this is a first step into some things that we're going to be doing here in the future about

trying to engage.

the people who are still in school.

We're targeting high school with this and trying to teach history.

So explain explain exactly what we're doing.

Well, perfect.

Well, I am the merchandising manager.

So, you have my title there now.

There you go.

I'm the merchandising manager there at the studios.

And what we're doing this year is we're actually trying to come up with creative ways to engage our audience and also with the rest of America.

And one of the things we come up with this year is a contest, an essay writing contest called Before They Were Famous.

We all know the stories of our forefathers and who they were and the accomplishments that they made to make our nation what it is today but who were they before they were famous and that's what we're doing now we are challenging high school students to compete for an essay writing contest and every month it's going to be a different person in history that they get to write about so the way that the contest goes is history teachers so here's the call to action we're asking for history teachers to nominate their class when they nominate their class us as an organization will pick the teacher that has the most compelling story, and then we will assign the students in their class a person in history.

They will then go in, write an essay.

We'll give them some criteria.

We have like six different criterias that they will rank from,

and then we will pick a winner.

And that winner has an opportunity to win up to $5,000 in the scholarship form from Mercury One.

So we have teamed up with Mercury One as well.

Their essay is is going to be published on Glenbeck.com.

They're going to be able to come to the studios on a and be able to see our artifacts that we hold there at the studio and also some of the artifacts that Mercury One has.

So we will be able to get them here.

We'll cover airfare and hotel.

Okay.

I read some who are we doing it with this first this first one with George Washington?

This first one is George Washington the Farmer

and it is a school in South Texas in the Edinburgh Independent School District.

Okay, so can any school?

Can any school do this?

Yes, and even homeschoolers.

Homeschoolers can also.

So if there is a homeschooled organization, or even as a parent, if you want to nominate maybe

if you're part of like a history club or something in your

homeschool, you can nominate those students as well.

Okay, so

the essays that I have read, and I know we're getting stacks of them, but I read a couple yesterday, and I love this one from this

kid who is a legal immigrant, came to the United States.

His family is, most of them still in Mexico,

but it's a very

old-fashioned.

Mexican family that still the family is getting together and the roles of the parents and the grandparents still really impact this kid.

And he wrote this essay about George Washington being a farmer and what his family was like and how he lost his dad and what the farm meant.

Mount Vernon was not just an estate, it was actually a farm and how he was close to his brother and all the things that I never knew when I was in high school, never knew.

And what was great about this essay was about halfway through, he stopped talking about George Washington and started comparing his life to George Washington's life and how his family with the heritage that he has from Mexico, how the strong family values impacted him, he started to see himself in George Washington, which I thought was an absolute home run

and exactly the kind of thing that we're trying to encourage.

So you just go to Glenbeck.com and what are you looking for?

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And right now we do have the two

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Voting ends at the end of next Monday.

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From there, we also have a George Washington farmer t-shirt.

30% of the proceeds are going to go back to the Mercury One Education Fund.

And Mercury One, in turn, will give the student a scholarship.

Great.

Thank you so much, Jessica.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

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All right.

Stu, what were your impressions last night on the firing of the Attorney General and the way the press and the left is handling this?

Well, I mean, obviously, them flipping out is bizarre.

You know, I don't think that there's any argument

to keep someone in place who's acting that way.

That's not to say that she should do it even.

I mean, I like I, you know, I was thinking about this.

If I was attorney general for some bizarre reason, it would have to be bizarre.

A huge error.

Jeffy would have to be president.

A huge clerical error that made Jeffy president.

And then he named me attorney general because he was the only person that he knew who would actually talk to him.

And I,

yeah, that's right, Jeffy.

And I went in there.

But let's say Obama was president.

He was coming into office and I had worked for Jeffy in the previous administration.

And Obama came in as president, and he passed DACA, for example.

He passed

an executive order that I believed was illegal, immoral, and unconstitutional.

Well, I wouldn't freaking do it either.

I wouldn't, I would absolutely, now,

my path to this would probably be I would just step down.

because I would not want to do it.

And maybe when I was out of office, I would

write exactly why I was doing it.

I would not do what she did, which was release a letter and make sure the media all knows about it and then

and just say, well, I'm going to continue to get, take my paycheck, but not do the job.

No, all she was, all she was doing is trying to make a name for herself.

She's, this was a purely political move on her part to be a darling.

Now, if, if you disagree with it, that's fine, but you don't handle it this way.

And if it was a legal problem, if she said, look, as the interim attorney general, legally, this is wrong.

I will not do it.

Then there's a scandal.

But for somebody to say, I politically am on the other side of the aisle and I just won't do this,

the only story there is people disagree.

And that is

the general gist of her letter is

seemingly a moral or political stance.

She does say that she's not convinced that the executive order is lawful.

That's different than it is not.

You don't quit on, I'm not convinced that it's lawful.

You're the acting attorney general.

You go and you get advice.

Is it lawful?

As you are doing it, or you say, I need more advice.

I need the advice of our attorneys.

I mean, you just...

Everything she did was political last night, politically motivated.

Well, yeah, obviously.

She knew she wasn't keeping this gig.

She knew she could make a statement or she could leave in an invisible fashion like everybody else is going to.

And, you know, there's already reports that she's being recruited by the Democrats to run for either governor or senate in Georgia.

So it's,

you know, it's no surprise.

She made this big stance.

She's the darling of the media.

She's the darling of everybody on the left.

And I don't know.

I mean, you know,

this is what people do these days, right?

I mean, this is, so I'm not at all surprised by it.

However, I don't think she should be necessarily vilified for not doing something she believes is wrong.

I mean, the same way that if I was in there and some socialist came into office, Bernie Sanders won, and he started passing executive orders, I wouldn't freaking do it either.

But I would just leave the job and not make a big deal out of myself.

Or I might make a big deal out of myself, but the press's job is to say, look, this is what's really happening here.

Not to all of a sudden say, Mother Teresa, is that you?

It is absolutely unbelievable.

It's unbelievable.

And I can't even, I honestly don't understand the other side of the argument when it comes to people being critical of Donald Trump on this.

Of course he freaking fired her.

What else would you do?

You are coming into an administration where your top

highest profile proposal is

being

derailed by someone else who was employed by the previous administration who's a couple weeks weeks away from not being in place.

So you have an interim person come in for a couple of weeks that will execute what you want to do.

Now, that's the same thing as if you had,

if you're a basketball coach and the pregame press conference, you know, your shooting guard says, Yeah, by the way, today I'm just not going to run any of the plays.

I'm just, I don't think these plays are smart.

And I'm not, you know, I'm just not going to, you know, I'm not going to do it.

I'm not going to pass.

I'm going to take every shot I want to.

Well, of course that per you wouldn't put them in the game.

And they would be released in a couple of days if they didn't change their tune.

That is a completely sensible thing for someone to do.

Now,

it is up to, there are many checks and balances here that if this order does turn out to be unconstitutional or unlawful, there are roads to go down and there are plenty of lawsuits already in progress that will attempt to prove that.

But

you don't just say, well, you know what?

I'm flippantly tossing away my job duties because I don't like X, Y, or Z.

And, you know, the one thing you can say about

what is it, Sally Yates, Obama's attorney general, is,

you know what, it's consistent with what the Obama administration did throughout his second term.

Every time he didn't like something, he didn't wind up doing it.

And so you can understand why she would think this is an acceptable thing to do, but it's not in this country and it shouldn't be.

So quickly,

I asked a constitutional attorney friend of mine, I said,

because everybody was starting to say, we're at a constitutional crisis.

And I don't see that.

So I wrote him and I I said, hey, is this a constitutional crisis headed our way?

I want to read exactly what he wrote.

I don't see this as a constitutional crisis kind of moment.

I've been wrestling with a statutory text all week, and I am convinced that there's at least a plausible legal theory underlying the executive order.

I can't be absolutely certain that it's the best policy to pursue right now, but it's no worse and potentially better than the failed policy we've had for the last eight years.

The best thing that can be done right now is to have people calm down.

This is a temporary program and one based on an executive order that appears to find support in the underlying statute.

Whether you like the policy or hate it, it doesn't amount to a constitutional crisis.

I know, I know the left desperately wants it to be that way.

They really want a constitutional crisis.

If it were that, they'd be ecstatic because then, they think, they would have to deal with the reality of a legitimately elected president who scares them to death.

More importantly, they wouldn't have to deal with the reality that people elected that man.

But their dislike of this situation and their longing for a constitutional crisis does not turn this situation into one.

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Hey, Glenn, thanks.

I'm just watching the left cringe over this swing back towards Trump's version of statism.

It kind of seems like, you know, the constituencies of certain politicians have the ability to hold them accountable, but that's not the focus of of most voters.

It seems like everyone is so focused on, you know, both sides are focused on pointing out the

fraud and the problems on the other side.

It's like, you know, a group of parents just screaming about somebody else's kids and not watching their own kids themselves, even though they actually have some control over their own kids.

But instead, everybody is so obsessed with the other side.

And, you know, the biggest argument from the left over the last election was Hillary's not that bad.

You know, it wasn't selling themselves.

It was just all focusing on the other guy's work

rather than, you know, kind of checking themselves.

I know.

Joe, thank you so much.

I really think it's time for us to take the beam out of our own eye and step up and be people of principle and of conviction and police our own self.

They need to police themselves.

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Tonight, Donald Trump announces his SCOTUS pick.

Now,

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Imagine what they're going to do when they actually have something real to complain about.

Because so far they've just marched because he became president

and then because the press told them that this executive order was something that it wasn't.

Really?

What happens when Scalia is brought back from the dead?

Hopefully that's what happens and we find a new Scalia tonight at 8 o'clock.

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President Trump may just be the master media manipulator that he believes he is, after all.

I have to tell you,

I am watching this in awe

and sometimes aghast

from both sides.

I am just just watching this as a casual observer of history, and I can't believe what I'm seeing, and I haven't figured it out yet.

It could be that Donald Trump is

the best watch the other hand guy I've ever seen.

Remember, we used to say that about Barack Obama.

Yeah, right, right, right, right.

Stop arguing about that.

What is the other hand doing?

We'll see.

But also,

he is overwhelming the system.

Exactly what happened last time

with Barack Obama to

the right,

Donald Trump is doing to the left.

There's no way you can keep up with all of this.

Tonight at 8 o'clock, he's announcing his SCOTUS pick.

In typical Trump fashion, don't miss Must C T V Wednesday night.

Is it Wednesday today?

The Tuesday.

Tuesday.

It is Tuesday.

It is Tuesday, at least for the whole day.

Wow.

This has only been...

Really?

Yesterday was only 24 hours.

It seemed like 48.

So, tonight, don't miss it.

Ensuring as many eyeballs as possible are on him tonight.

According to the sources close to our program, Out of the 21 candidates that Trump has released prior to the election, it's down to three.

and more likely it's between two of the three men.

But here are the three finalists and what their nominations could mean to the future of the Supreme Court.

Coming in at number three is William Pryor,

the partisan, if you will.

He is right of Alito and left of Clarence Thomas.

Pryor is the

judge from the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta.

He is the oldest of the possible choices, but he's still only 54.

He still has a long career ahead of him on the bench.

However,

he is by far the most outspoken of the three and the and definitely the least liked by the Democrats.

Choosing prior would fit the mold of Trump about not caring about what anybody says, but the president would be in for a fight if he was going to get him confirmed.

Chances are he'd get him through, but he would expend an awful lot of political capital, which remains to be seen, if that even matters for this administration.

One sticking point for the evangelicals was when he, as Attorney General of Alabama, had Judge Roy Moore ousted for refusing to obey a federal court order and remove the Ten Commandments from the state judicial building.

Pryor said at the time, I'm just following the court's order.

But this was a knock on him for the far right,

and they have held on to that, as well as his recent support for transgendered rights.

He is not afraid to say what he believes, which is why the left calls him a bomb thrower and considers him a cultural warrior.

Many on the right see him as a rising conservative star, and he is a fierce critic of Roe versus Wade.

He

has upheld the Georgia voter ID law and is called for sectarian prayers for opening a local commission meeting, constitutional.

He is probably probably not Scalia in waiting, but who is?

He is more in the mold of Alito, but all of this may be moot if the reports are correct, because he is, out of the three, the one who is really on the outside looking in.

Second one,

the centerist, Thomas Hardeman.

He is left of Roberts.

Wow.

Let's think about that one for a second, Stu.

Left of Roberts.

Yeah, I've been thinking about it.

Yeah, and right of Kennedy.

And you might say to yourself, why the heck would Donald Trump

appoint a centrist?

Well, I mean, you know, there's a lot of reasons for it, but the one that they're talking about now, as far as the way these games work, is

the rest of the court, they believe, will take a signal

as to who Trump nominates here, as to how Trump is going to treat this situation.

So if he goes for someone who's really right-wing and crazy, then people like Kennedy might say, well, I don't want to retire and let him name another crazy person to the bench.

So they're thinking, the thought is, and again, this is all crazy inside the Beltway speculation, but the thought is if he were to name a centrist, then Kennedy would feel more comfortable in his departure.

And then if he departed, they could name a conservative to replace him.

I know that's a, you know, that's a lot of.

You know what that sounds like?

Honestly, you know what that sounds like to me?

If I were sitting in the seat of the Oval Office, I would say, progressive BSer, get behind me.

It sounds like something that a progressive would say to an incoming president who really is trying to get the president to pick a centrist.

Right.

Look, I'm telling you, if you do this this time, what will happen next time is, I mean, that just sounds like bullcrap.

Right.

But the question is, which progressive are you talking about?

If that progressive happens to be Anthony Kennedy,

then it might be a

viable thing.

I would not risk it.

I mean,

if you lose a Scalia and replace him with someone who's, as this article talks about, left of Roberts,

you're in for some trouble there.

That's not a good sign.

And if Kennedy doesn't step down, you have no conservative rulings potentially.

I mean, that's a huge problem, especially you think with Trump, too, with all of his aggressive sort of things with executive orders and all these big changes he wants to make, the last thing he wants to do is put the Supreme Court up to risk.

It was obviously a reason that a lot of people who were very skeptical of him voted for him anyway.

So, I mean, I'm going for a centrist here is risky.

The one thing about this, and you know, which is we mentioned it, I think, yesterday, is that he works with Trump's sister.

Trump's sister knows him very well.

And

I bet you this is the guy.

I mean, it seems like you this is the guy.

That's a big in.

Yeah, that's a huge, a huge in.

Because that was his initial reaction, right?

I would name my sister, she'd be a great judge.

And then obviously, like, over time, he kind of realized that that was just reactionary.

But here's a kind of way you can do it.

He's going to have inside information on this person from his sister.

He's going to know he's going to be.

Now, assuming his sister likes him, maybe his sister hates him, but he's lasted this long on this list.

You think he's got to be fairly well liked.

They've sided together on a lot of major decisions.

So, you know, this one's it's it's it's interesting.

He was not really one of the ones talked about up until the last couple of weeks.

And it is not.

It's him.

So, I mean, it could be.

I'll bet you it's him.

That's exactly, this is exactly the kind of guy that every Republican president always nominates.

I know, but that's supposed to be not supposed to be what Trump does, right?

I know, I know, I know.

So maybe it won't.

All right.

So the name again is Thomas Hardeman.

I hope this isn't the guy.

More moderate than the other choices.

He's left of Roberts, right of Kennedy.

Many conservatives are wary after Kennedy and Roberts haven't turned out the way they hoped.

He is only one of the candidates or sitting members of the bench without an Ivy League pedigree.

He grew up in public schools, blue-collar family, went to Notre Dame or Notre Dame and put himself through law school at Georgetown by driving a cab.

Is he the Catholic of the group?

Can you find out if he's Catholic?

Sure.

He fits the bill with pro-life stance.

He's strong on the Second Amendment, but he is seen as government-friendly.

He has sided with Big Brother on censorship issues.

He's 51

and would have influence for decades to come.

He might be the most confirmable of the three, having been confirmed 95 to 0 on the appellate cohort, receiving votes from Chuck Schumer and Diane Feinstein.

Feinstein, Stein, Stein.

He's a former trial judge who's been serving on the third court of appeals in Philipp Philadelphia.

Happens to be the same court as President Trump's sister.

He receives a glowing recommendation from her, and he is thought to have

significant influence on her brother.

This may be the nominee.

The number one pick, according to Glenbeck.com, is Neil Gorsuch.

He's a libertarian.

He is, listen to this, right of Scalia

and left of Clarence Thomas.

I'm comfortable with that.

If that description is accurate, I am comfortable with that.

I am so comfortable with this.

This would be the guy.

Out of these three, this would be the guy.

Gorsuch is not a name that many people knew outside of political junkie circles.

He has quickly risen to the top of the list over the past couple of weeks.

He's 49 years old, so he has the best chance, theoretically, of having the longest lasting influence.

He is pro-life.

He has cited against assisted suicide, but he has yet to rule on an abortion case, but they believe because he has stated pro-life and he has gone against assisted suicide, which I don't understand how a libertarian does that.

A libertarian should be for...

should be pro-life if they think it's murder,

which I do.

So should be protecting the rights of the unborn child, but then to protect the rights of the living, should be able to say, what you do with your own life is your business.

And I don't know that he's, I think they're describing him as a libertarian.

I don't know that he's

stated that I am a libertarian.

Yeah, well, I doubt he's stated he's a libertarian.

You're not going to get elected.

This might help win some votes from the Democrats.

While conservatives can still feel relatively comfortable on where he stands, his lack of record makes him less likely to be borked than the prior nomination could.

I will tell you that where we get in trouble is people saying, hey, he doesn't have a record on these things, and so we guess on what their record is going to be.

Yeah, that is an issue.

And by the way, also a big issue with Hardiman.

I mean, I think his record's even thinner than Gorsuch.

You know, I mean, they're both on the younger side as far as justices go, so they don't necessarily have the,

you know, really long record of an older judge.

But I mean, you look at the,

there's a sentence in the longer profile of Hardiman, which says he's never had any abortion rulings either.

So the only one, I mean, you can be pretty darn sure that Pryor is going to be on the right side of that one

of these three.

And I think Gorsuch, reading it in context, I mean, he is ruled in cases that would, you know, one of the big things about Gorsuch, which I liked, was this was the guy we talked about who is, he doesn't seem to be friendly friendly to things that aren't in the Constitution.

The dormant clauses, like the dormant privacy clause, which leads to abortion, or the dormant commerce clause.

And that's why there's a large indication that he would be pro-life, but it's true.

I mean, the record's not extensive on the topic.

If you look at his record that we know, and there are some disturbing things in there, but if you look at the record of the things that we know,

he has the best chance, I think, of being game-changing

for the Supreme Court.

Let me finish.

Let's see.

He has sided with Hobby Lobby.

He also sided with Little Sisters of the Poor in upholding their right to follow their religious belief when it came to mandatory birth control for the nuns.

And he's believed to have the libertarian streak of Scalia

and the style of Roberts.

He has stated that he's an originalist, meaning he believes in the interpretation of the Constitution as written, rather than pronouncing the law as they might wish it to be in light of their own political views.

It's amazing there's another side to that argument.

Have they written or how you think it might be because of your political views?

Which one do you think?

How should we rule on this?

Right.

So we don't know.

You know, there's speculation that Justice Roberts was blackmailed at the last hour.

That is something that I would really like to hear some, if there are any good facts on that one, because that ruling from Justice Roberts was just bizarre.

Bizarre.

Bizarre.

And the fact that he showed up with puffy red eyes and

it was obvious that he rewrote it in the middle of the night because of the way it was written, it shows that he was actually on the other side and then just changed things, but it was rushed so quickly he didn't change all of it.

It was just bizarre.

But anyway.

He is a champion of small government conservatism like Antonin Scalia.

Chances are the nominee will stand in the vast shadow of his legacy and never eclip the works he was able to accomplish.

That being said, there will be a nominee, and it appears to be one of these three.

According to conservative circles, Hardiman is the least liked.

Pryor is beloved by some, questioned by others.

And when the dust settles, Donald Trump lands on Neil Gorsuch.

Conservatives could do much worse.

But let's see what happens.

Yeah, that's all up on Glenbeck.com, by the way.

You can read that whole analysis.

And this is assuming, by the way, the reports are right.

Who knows?

Maybe Trump goes a totally different direction.

Yeah, and it will be interesting because this is the one that the religious community said this is the most important.

And they've put all of their eggs in this basket and have been telling him, we want our pick.

And it is not Hardiman.

Let's see if it's paid off.

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All right.

I want to spend some time on

a story that

is amazing to me in a couple of ways, and I have not heard,

I've not heard anybody say what I have to say about this story.

And I find it interesting that nobody is saying it.

Here it is, from NBC News.

In what an official said was the first military raid carried out under President Donald Trump, two Americans were killed in Yemen on Sunday.

One, a member of SEAL Team 6, and the other, an eight-year-old girl, a daughter of Anwar Alawaki.

the New Mexican-born al-Qaeda leader who himself was killed in a U.S.

strike five years ago.

Notice it doesn't say by Barack Obama.

In the raid in southern Yemen, conducted by the Super Secret Joint Special Operations Command, it was intended to capture valuable intelligence, specifically computer equipment, according to senior U.S.

military officials.

Three al-Qaeda leaders were killed, according to U.S.

officials.

Contrary to earlier reporting, the senior military officials said the raid was Trump's first clandestine strike, not a holdover mission approved by President Barack Obama.

The mission involved boots on the ground at an al-Qaeda camp near al-Baida in south-central Yemen.

Almost everything went wrong, the official said.

The MV-22 Osprey experienced a hard landing near the site, injuring several SEALs, one severely.

The tilt rotor aircraft had to be destroyed.

A SEAL was killed during the firefight on the ground, as were some non-combatants, including females.

General

Defense Secretary James Mattis had to leave one of Washington's biggest annual socials events to deal with the the repercussions, according to the officials, and he did not return.

All right, there's a little bit left of this story,

but hopefully, you just heard in this story something that leapt out to me.

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All right, NBC News.

American girl and a Navy SEAL die in first Trump-era U.S.

military raid.

All right.

So I want to take you through this because there's two important things out of this story that jump out to me.

Let's see if

Stu or Jeffy did anything jump out at you as the story about the story that I was reading.

Well, you went I mean you mentioned they didn't talk about the Obama administration and the first raid of the Trump era.

They're obviously trying to make this into a political thing and

put some blame there.

So let me let me just say it this way.

Let me just ask you this question.

Stu, when was the last time you saw or heard or saw a story on NBC News about a raid that the SEAL teams did that went poorly or even went well.

When's the last time you read one of those?

They're pretty rare.

They sure are, especially in this sort of detail.

We do hear occasionally about things that go, certainly Osama bin Laden, we heard about things going right.

Right.

We heard about Ben Ghazi going poorly, but reluctantly we heard about that.

Yep.

Right?

Yep.

I have not heard about a story like this

in

eight years.

I mean, we were hearing about them all the time under George W.

Bush.

Then they just disappeared.

This is one guy, one Navy SEAL, being killed, and

it is directly attached to the president.

So

they are directly saying, this is Donald Trump.

Donald Trump approved this, and it went wrong.

All right.

So that's the first thing that jumps out is welcome back.

Welcome back, press, to caring about our soldiers and the war.

SEAL Team 6, and the other was an eight-year-old daughter of Anwar Al-Alaki.

Now,

what jumps out at you about that one?

Well,

first of all, there's the, you know, sadness.

I mean, there's an adorable picture of her, and she's eight, and I mean, as much as obviously she's the daughter of a terrorist, it's still soul-crushing to see a child have to, you know, go that way.

But the other part of it is of course Trump talked about in the campaign that theoretically he would be interested in killing family members of terrorists to teach them a lesson now There's no indication that that this is part of that policy or that suggestion

But that is surely what they would tie it to no kidding

Right?

So it says it says here did I win

Yeah, you got it.

Okay.

The senior military official said the eight-year-old girl actually I didn't listen to a damn thing that you were saying why did you ask

stop asking me.

I'm not getting distracted.

I'm riddled with ADT, ADD,

ADT, ADD, and I'm just, I was distracted by something.

Okay, anyway, so, but I think I heard enough of your blabbering that I think you got right.

Well, thank you.

Listen to this.

Senior military officials said the eight-year-old girl was known as Nora, among the non-combatants killed in the raid,

which also resulted in the death of several Yemeni women.

U.S.

officials say some of the women who were killed were combatants and had opened fired on the SEALs as they approached the al-Qaeda camp.

The girl's grandfather, Nasser al-Alaki, Yemen's former agricultural minister, told NBC News a different story.

He identified his granddaughter as the dead girl from a photo taken at the scene of the raid, but based his description on what happened at the camp on conversations with what he characterized as Yemeni sources.

My granddaughter was staying for a while with her mother, so when the attack came, they were sitting in the house, and a bullet struck her in the neck at 2.30 past midnight.

The other children in the same house were also killed.

He said the girl died hours after being shot.

The SEALs entered the house and killed everybody in it, including all the women, and then they burned the house.

There's an assumption that there was a woman in the house from Saudi Arabia who was killed with al-Qaeda.

All we know is that she was the children's teacher.

So what is he doing here?

Here's the problem.

Go ahead.

Well, he's trying to obviously make it into an emotional story, not the way the Americans are going to tell you.

This was an innocent family who happened to be related to someone who was, you know, they might not like, but has already been, was killed a couple years ago.

So this is a terrible tragedy.

And then, you know, Americans are just killing family members for no reason.

Right.

And why should we believe?

Why should we believe him?

Well, we shouldn't.

I don't mean us in America.

I mean the rest of the world and anybody who just is in a neutral position.

Let's just say in a neutral position on this.

Why would his word seem credible?

well he's got Yemeni sources I will say that

I don't think that was it well that's not what I'm looking for okay

I mean I don't everything that is coming out of the United States right now is a lie

we are broadcasting to the rest of the world you cannot believe anything anyone says in government and you can't even believe our media

That's what we're broadcasting around the world.

All of these arguments, they're going all around the world.

They're going to all of the leaders, all the financial experts, all of the people who are thinking about investing in the United States,

all of the people who are thinking, you know what, maybe I should go over, or maybe I should side with the United States, or you know what?

The United States has always been somebody I can rely on.

They're seeing

live.

It's not like, you know, it's not like

Vietnamese television.

We're broadcast everywhere.

CNN is everywhere.

And so

the rest of the world is watching us and going, you can't believe anything the government is saying.

You can't believe a darn thing.

The American people even know it.

They're even saying it.

Look at it.

They're in the streets.

By the millions, they're in the streets saying, this guy's a liar.

So he doesn't have to work so hard to be credible anymore.

We've already made anyone who says something that the United States did that is is bad, we've made them credible.

But there's one more piece, and that is, I think, what you stated.

Donald Trump said

our military is going to go kill the families.

That is what you said, right?

That is.

Yes.

Thank you for that.

Good, good.

I just absorbing it.

I knew that.

I was just pretending that maybe I didn't know.

So that's what he said.

This is evidence to them that that's exactly what we're doing now.

Now, our side is

we didn't go in to kill her.

That's ridiculous.

She happened to be there.

She was visiting, and we didn't know that.

And she happened to be one of the people that was killed.

But that's not what Al-Qaeda is saying today.

They are coming out now and saying that Donald Trump said we're going to kill the families, and this is the third al-Aqi that we have killed now.

We killed him, we killed his son, and now we killed his daughter.

The United States, the military, they are killing the families.

May I guess

that there's probably a third of the audience, maybe more,

that just said, good.

That's not what we want people to believe about our military.

That is an over

correction from us being so politically correct and not calling bad guys bad guys and not killing the bad guys, but playing footsie with them and trying to say, let me hear about your childhood.

Your feeling of good

is an over-correction.

It's not where you would have been maybe 10 or 15 years ago.

10 or 15 years ago, you wouldn't most likely would not have said that with the same passion that you're saying it now.

You're saying it now because you don't believe anybody is actually serious about killing the bad guys.

All we have to do is kill the bad guys

and call the bad guys by name.

We need to say

not Muslims are bad because Muslims aren't bad.

We can't say that

Islam is bad because I know a lot of people who are Islamic who are good.

It's Islamism that is bad.

Islamism is the

idea that Sharia law gives you the right to control other people,

kill people for your family's honor, mutilate women because they need to be mutilated, beaten because they need to be beaten, because because Allah will allow you to do that, don't educate, enslave your enemy.

That's Islamism, and that is wrong.

That's what America needs to understand, and I think they do.

And those who don't, you can explain it to them and say,

here's how you know the difference between a good guy and a bad guy.

And it's really simple.

And most of the people in the Middle East are infected with this ideology of Islamism.

But much of the time, it's because they haven't seen anything else

and they've been indoctrinated their whole lives.

It's like, were the German children that were in the Hitler youth, were they bad?

Or were they indoctrinated?

That's the difference.

And that's where we need to start fighting this like it's World War II, because it is World War III.

This is affecting the entire world.

And we need to be able to say, we don't hate Germans, we hate Nazis.

Germans are not a problem.

I don't have a problem with Germans.

I have a problem with Nazis.

And that is the declaration or proclamation number one that Eisenhower had put as broadsides on all of the sides of buildings, on telephone poles, everywhere around Germany.

Proclamation number one.

It was in English and in German.

And it said, we are here to kill the Nazis.

If you were a member of the Nazi Party,

then you are the enemy of freedom of man.

And we will kill you.

And we are looking for those who were members of the Nazi Party.

But we are not the enemy of the German people.

We are the enemy of the Nazis.

And we know the distinction.

German people, we are here to bring peace and to be your friends.

That's the difference.

And we're not going to get that difference.

Nobody's, you're not going to get that difference by having bluster and talking about a Muslim ban.

That has to be done with some

art in your soul.

That has to be done carefully.

Precision, not carpet bombing with words, but precision bombing with words.

That's really important for President Trump to learn.

That is a difference that Americans will understand and accept, but you can't get it with a carpet bombing, and you'll never get it with the people who want to give excuses for everybody in the Middle East.

Sorry, there are some bad guys and some good guys.

And they're not just in the Middle East.

They're here too.

Don't have to worry about banning people from moving in.

They're bad people here already.

And you know what?

Some of them look just like you.

That is what we have to get across to the American people.

And that is what I hope Donald Trump will begin to work on, is watching his language a little bit more.

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There is some fun to talk about today.

I've got two minutes.

I have to tell you about the doomsday prep for the super rich.

We have Riaz Patal coming up in just a second.

I also want to talk to you about Russia, what's happening in Russia, which is pretty amazing.

And Stu, you sent me a story this morning I haven't had a chance to read about banning in Russia.

Yeah, it's actually not a new story.

Something that a while ago, I think it was BuzzFeed did a separate investigation about some stuff in Europe, and Steve Bannon spoke to a group in Europe that they just happened to be

there and capture this.

This is long before Trump was even running for president.

And

of course, the BuzzFeed title is something like, you know, Steve Bannon explains his views on the entire world.

But it is, he does kind of outline what he thinks about the world in it.

And it's a long transcript and the video is there as well in case anybody wants to watch it.

But what was interesting is he went into depth

about some of the stuff you've talked about

when it comes to Russia.

Yeah, Eurasianism.

And

seemingly he refers to Alexander Dugan at one point,

a guy you've spoken about.

In a good way or a bad way?

I would say mostly in a bad way, though he seems to refer to sort of the charm of what they're doing.

Maybe the charm is not the right word, maybe effectiveness is the right word.

Talking about how, and you spoke about this, spoken about this as well, where they're using sort of this appeal to traditionalism, this appeal to nationalism in a way that is effective for people who are in difficult positions and utilizing it as a way to essentially cover your own corruption.

And he's talking about that with Vladimir Putin, which he, you know, outwardly criticizes pretty extensively.

If you understand

the neo-Eurasian movement from Russia, you will understand

Bannon and how he is advising the president.

I'm absolutely convinced of it.

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Tonight, 8 o'clock, we find out the pick from Donald trump on scotus who he is going to name as the next uh as the possibly next uh supreme court justice and a friend of the program who i've introduced you to now several times riaz patal he is the man who is a gay muslim pakistani uh married man with an adopted child there's no more boxes you can check uh he's he's i mean he's checked every single box everybody is supposed to hate him even some muslims and some Pakistanis.

I mean, he's friends with nobody.

He's friends with us.

Love this man.

He is open-minded and he is a man of real

intestinal fortitude.

A guy who hadn't really met any conservatives until he met with us about six months ago.

And then he thought, you know what?

When everybody was calling Donald Trump supporters crazy, maybe I should go meet them myself.

So he went on his own dime and flew up to Alaska and spent a weekend with Trump supporters and said, they're wonderful people.

I understand why they're voting for Donald Trump and came out with this amazing uniting article for the left saying they're not who you think they are.

A guy of intellectual curiosity and integrity.

I have emailed him back and forth this week with the Muslim ban, which is not a ban.

It is a pause.

I don't know exactly where he stands on this, but I'm interested to hear his point of view, especially while the media is in full-fledged meltdown on this.

We go there right now.

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I will beat my drum,

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Riaz Patal, how are you, sir?

Good morning.

Hey, Glenn.

Welcome to the program.

Thank you.

Thank you.

What a nice intro, by the way.

Gosh, I hope to be that man that you introduced.

He seems great.

Yeah, I think you are.

You know,

my personal motto that I picked up a few months ago that I tell myself every day, I'm not the man I need to be.

I'm not the man I want to be, but thank God I am not the man I used to be.

And moving forward every day.

And I really appreciate our friendship.

And you are the only person that I think I've ever met that is from the left, has all the boxes checked, that Pat

has a love fest for.

I mean, Pat doesn't like anybody.

He loves you.

Pat and I passed each other in the halls in Dallas, and there was an awkward moment where I was like, okay, what's the next step, Pat?

Did we go to dinner?

Like, what happened next?

Okay, so tell me, hang on just a second.

Would you tell me, excuse me, my wife keeps texting Matthew, I guess, and he keeps looking at me like, fix your hair.

Here, honey, she's watching.

She's watching.

Put a hat on.

How's my hair now?

Okay, so Riaz,

tell me what what your thoughts are

and your process through the last few days of what's been happening.

You know, it's always a bit of an emotional process for me because we're talking about me.

You know, as we're talking about this Muslim ban, and I'm using air quotes because, you know, I think that becomes part of the problem when it becomes labeled as this Muslim ban by association.

We've yet again lumped 1.4 billion of us together in one world and one sort of people.

But as you look at it, you realize, I would hope,

I would assume, that you wouldn't be included because, strangely, he didn't include Pakistan.

Yes, the first thing I noticed is it's not Pakistan, not Saudi Arabia.

And so to me,

when it's labeled as a Muslim ban, it can't be.

It cannot be specifically Muslim ban.

Indonesia, the most populated Muslim nation in the world, is not there.

And so, you know, then there's a counterattack that he has business interests.

I don't know what business interests he could possibly have in Pakistan, but it to me is not a full Muslim ban.

And I get very nervous when the media and the left rile up this angry because in this yelling, you can't hear.

And the hearing is what is key is what I did in Alaska.

And again, your very nice intro.

All it takes is someone to humbly listen.

You did it to me.

I did it to you.

It's not a superpower.

And so to me, I really want to make sure that in this deafening roar, that people like Zudi Jasser are heard.

People like Dia Khan, who's an amazing woman, she's a filmmaker, did a TED talk about how bad it is, the extremism in Europe.

And so, yes, we want to be polite.

And I so, so appreciate the outpouring from your viewers, some people who say, Look, I don't know a Muslim, but you seem okay.

And that's great because there's a gray area to many of us.

But it really makes me nervous when it becomes one hyperbole, one group.

It doesn't serve the cause to me.

Last night,

I said earlier on the program, I had to turn CNN off

because first I turned Fox off, then I turned CNN off because

everyone was talking to their specific audience alone.

And

the apex of this happened on CNN when Fareed Zakaria was talking to Alan Dershowitz, who is a very reasonable man.

I may not agree with everything he says, but he's a reasonably well-thought-out man.

He's not a guy who you can always say, yeah, he's going to fall down here because he's a Democrat or he's a Republican.

He's a guy who thinks for himself and has his own opinion.

He was in the middle of saying something that I found very reasonable.

And

Fareed said, right in the middle, I'm not listening to anything you're saying, Alan.

I'm just not listening to this explanation.

I won't listen to this explanation.

And I thought, well, there's the problem.

There's the problem.

You're having an intellectual discussion, and all it's come come to is I won't listen to your side and they're both doing it.

I won't listen to your side.

Instead, I want to throw a bomb.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I think to me, the listening is the hardest part.

Look, the thing I feel the most uncomfortable is the executive order of it all.

I believe in due process of government.

It makes me very nervous when these things are just brought in by executive order.

And I know people are feeling like this is great.

After eight years, we're doing something.

But we know the swiftness of this is a counter reaction to the eight years.

It doesn't necessarily address the problem today.

Look, there absolutely needs to be something done.

I do believe there are bad parts of Islam, absolutely, but they are limited and they need to be targeted.

But to me, the executive action of it makes me very nervous because Farid Zakari and I are brown people.

And so whenever we're talking about this, there's a lifetime of abuse, a lifetime of racial epithets that have been thrown at us, you know, from age four and five.

So it is hard to be completely objective when we're listening to things that are vilifying us.

And so I can understand that.

But again, as a reporter and CNN, you have to get over it.

But it is hard to find that balance of you're talking about me.

Did you have a problem with executive ban or executive orders that Barack Obama did?

I mean, I did, yes, absolutely.

And I think I learned about them in Alaska of all places.

The executive orders that he had done to the lumber industry and the sorry Clinton's had done to the lumber industry ruined this town of Kachikan.

So I absolutely, I don't think I I was aware of how bad they were until recently, but they are.

We have government for a reason.

We have due process for a reason.

And I know people are scared.

But the problem of reaction, counter-reaction, is that is exactly what ISIS wants.

The more we're angry, the more there's a rift in American society, the more lost people fall in, and ISIS goes in and grabs them.

And so to me, this rift of fighting and yelling so loud we can't hear each other is the perfect chaos for ISIS to play in.

So it's, I think it's the perfect chaos for everybody to play in.

I mean, anybody who wants to control things

chaos is a lot of people.

And I don't like the political nature of it.

Yeah.

So

as I was watching last night, and I, you know, I hear from people all across the country.

I read Facebook, Twitter.

I meet people.

You do too.

There is a...

There is a small group, I think, on the right and the left that are sick of hearing this and are and don't want to be shouting each other down.

Can look at it and say, look, look, I disagree with this, but that's what this really is.

This is, you know, X, Y, and Z.

And maybe my side went too far here, here, and here, but now you're going too far here, here, and here.

And I don't want to argue about it.

I'll admit that my side did these things wrong and we shouldn't have done that, but now you guys shouldn't do that.

When I say that on the air, I am overwhelmed with people who say, it's never going to happen, Glenn.

It's never going to happen.

And my response is, well, then do you have a better suggestion than just

expecting the best out of people and encouraging people to do that?

Do you have a better suggestion?

I mean, to me, it's not going to happen is to me, I hear that it's, I'm not going to do that.

Again, we're not talking about some absurd superpower that people have to develop in a science lab.

We're talking about listening.

And so to me, this absurd yelling, I agree with you, Glenn.

And to me, the absurdity of our own friendship is the reason why it works.

It obviously works.

When you and I sat opposite each other, we had nothing in common.

And yet we found we have almost everything in common.

And so to me, it's getting past the discomfort of that first conversation.

Riaz, I think what you just said, the absurdity of our friendship is so a sign of the times.

Such a sign of the times.

My parents, I don't don't remember my parents or my grandparents ever saying, well, who did he vote for?

Oh, what party does he belong to?

Oh, well, what church do they belong to?

I never,

I never heard any of that.

Now, I don't think that I have ever met

a Muslim or a Jew when I was growing up.

And that's because I grew up in the whitest white town in America, Mount Vernon, Washington.

And so there was no, at the time I lived there, the diversity was there.

It was, it was Hispanic and Asian, but to me, that was just normal.

You know, now,

you know, to see Jews and Muslims, to me, that is different.

So, but I might have lived around Muslims.

I might have lived around Jews.

We just never talked about it.

We didn't categorize people like that.

So when you say the absurdity of our friendship,

only today I think

we have much more in common than we have different.

Absolutely.

And so to me, it's that awkwardness that people feel that that first conversation is so possible, but is not possible.

And to me, it becomes an ego thing.

Look, you and I could have sat down opposite each other and fought to the death to be right.

And neither of us wanted that because it doesn't help to be right.

And so I think really it's going to take a humbling and I think it's going to be hard.

But my hope is, Glenn, that a different sort of leadership will emerge.

We've got four years.

Like, I don't even want to think about the election, but I hope that this activism leads to new kinds of leadership and we get away from the established speech, like speech givers, because you and I should be friends.

And I think, again, when we keep saying Muslim ben, Muslim, ben, Muslim, ben, what is the word that comes to the mind?

Everyone's talking about Muslims as one big group again.

I don't think that helps me.

I don't think it does at all.

And so to me, I'm trying to, and you are with Zudi Jasser saying, look, there are other people, there are other opinions within this community we need to hear.

I would love other media sources to do that too.

And so, I really do believe it's just humbling yourself, it's just being nice, it's just believing that the other person is probably kind and generous too, and just sitting down.

Because the absurdity is right, except for today, there would be no bizarreness of our friendship.

And so, we need to get back to that.

And I think we will.

You and I will make that happen.

So, Riaz, what do you say to people

who look and say, well, the problem is the media and the politicians.

And I agree, much of that is true, the media and the politicians.

However,

the media and politicians, in some way, the media is a reflection of the people who are in it.

The politicians are a reflection of us.

So we're kind of cut from the same cloth in many ways.

We get what we vote for.

We get what we accept.

The media is a reflection of the people who are in it.

But we are now in it and read Facebook and Twitter.

So

what do you say to people who say, I'll never be able to change the media and they're never going to change?

Change what you consume.

I mean, I work in media.

I'm a producer.

I'm in Hollywood.

So we don't really create shows that we don't think there'll be an audience for.

And I will be very proud of, I'm very proud of the fact I've never created the kind of conflict-driven stuff that has been out there.

But that stuff gets made because people watch it.

You stop watching it.

It doesn't get made.

And so to me, you said media is part of the people who make it and people are in it.

It's also the people who consume it.

If you don't want to consume and eat a steady diet of conflict and rage every day, don't do it.

I literally took a challenge in the new year not to complain.

I'm serious.

It's incredibly hard, but I'm trying not to complain.

And so, to me, I don't go to social media for that thick of complaining and rage and anger that I need.

So, to me, change what you consume, change what you put in your mind, and it'll change who you are.

Yes, thank you for your insight.

I appreciate it.

God bless, and we'll talk to you soon.

I love talking to you, Glenn.

Thank you.

God bless.

Bye.

Bye.

He's great.

I love that guy.

He is great.

I love that guy.

And he's totally right, too.

I mean, you know,

we've all gone through periods where you get on social media and you're firing back at people and it makes you feel good for that one second and then you feel terrible afterwards.

And you get to that point where, generally speaking, I just try to ignore it at this point.

I don't know that it's probably better to replace it with something positive.

That's probably what Riaz would tell us.

But, you know the the less you can deal with that stuff the better i mean i you know there's people that i well still staying connected i mean you still have to stay connected last night i just wanted the news of what's happening i didn't want to hear all of the comments from people i just what has happened i've been on a plane for three hours what has happened in the last three hours so i turn on the news and i didn't get what happened all i got was trying to figure out what happened in between

when they're all yelling about it.

I want to know what happened, please.

All right, let's take a quick break.

We're going to tell you a little bit about SCOTUS.

The SCOTUS pick happens tonight at 8 o'clock, and the Blaze will be on that with a live broadcast.

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Not so good.

And I have this strange feeling.

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One of them is not so good.

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What haven't we covered yet, Stu?

I've got

a few things.

I'm really hoping for a question from the maybe Too Spicer today or Trump in some interview.

Because I think there's an easy way for him to push off all of this Muslim ban talk that everyone keeps mentioning because the executive order does not say that.

So if

he did, and I understand why people are jumping to that, but that policy, which I opposed as vigilantly as anyone,

the The initial Trump proposal of a Muslim ban, I think, was unconstitutional and horrible.

But that policy is not this policy.

Correct.

So here's an easy way to test the Trump administration.

Population of Iran is made up of 89% Shia Muslims and 9% Sunni Muslims.

In Iran, Sunni Muslims are a religious minority.

If they were persecuted by a terrible Iranian government, would they be allowed to go to the front of the line once refugee admissions continue like other religious minorities?

If Episcopalians started violently persecuting Presbyterians somewhere, no one would say, well, they're all Christians, so you don't have to worry about it.

The distinction would be important.

And I think what would surprise a lot of people is that Sunni Muslims being imported in that scenario.

Spicer, do you think Spicer could answer that?

I don't know enough about Spicer yet.

I don't know, but I mean, it's a good question to ask.

And if the Trump administration were smart, they would say, wait a minute, yeah, I mean, they would be okay.

They're certainly okay by the language of it.

Only the intent would prevent this from occurring.

The Giuliani problem is the sticking point here.

Very tough, yeah, very tough.

That Giuliani came out and said Donald Trump just wanted a clever way to do a Muslim ban.

That's the problem with it.

Do you take him seriously or literally?

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Hello, America.

Welcome to the program.

Doc Thompson is with us

in-house.

Doc Thompson does the morning show on the Blaze Radio Network, and you can hear live stream and also podcasts, all kinds of stuff on the Blaze Radio Network.

And I'm happy to say the largest single stream in America, which I believe makes it the largest single stream in the world, is the Blaze Radio Network.

It is the...

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We only have one.

I'm proud to have the most listened-to weekend broadcast on the Blaze Radio Network.

Oh, yeah, I think you looked at a couple qualifiers on that one this time, Jeffy.

You got about six more qualifiers to make that near true.

Yeah,

but anyway, Doc leads the way every morning with the Doc Thompson radio broadcast, and he's really a

he's cut from the same cloth in some ways as I am.

He is

a deeply deeply emotional guy and kind of a soft-hearted guy that will rip your heart out and show it to you before you fall down on the ground if he thinks you're wrong.

I've noticed, too, he actually uses a lot less cloth than you when it comes to

cover the

just a textile sort of observation there.

So, Doc is here.

How you doing, Doc?

Doc, can you hear him?

No.

he's uh apparently having audio he's having audio issues

but luckily he did hear me um make fun of you and and your appearance which i think is probably the most important part of this segment no offense doc whatever you're about to say doc shut him up yeah there he is he's got you now i think hey you're doing a uh a live facebook post tonight uh for blazer network on uh scotus

we who do you think it's going to be

I don't think it's going to be pryor.

I think that's too conservative for him, too religious conservative.

I think it's probably going to be Hardeman.

I think that's probably where we'll go.

But the thing is,

that's the one I'm frightened that it will be.

I will tell you this.

The evangelicals, I mean, the evangelicals are the ones that got Donald Trump into office.

Sure.

And he promised them.

And I don't mean promised them on stage.

I mean he looked them in the eye and said, Jerry Falwell,

what's his name?

Franklin Graham, James Robinson, you guys, I'm going to do, I'm going to pay you back for this.

And they all said, the only thing we want is the Supreme Court justice that falls in line with our values.

That's all we want.

So this is the payback.

And if he betrays the evangelicals and

I think goes with somebody like Thomas Hardeman,

that's not going to sit well.

But I mean, they knew he was on the list, though and they all approved of the list none of them said oh they are great they are behind the scenes with him now they have a list of their own where three of those people are unacceptable and they have they have met with him several times and his people these people are not acceptable is there any possibility he goes off the board and doesn't pick one of these three Oh, absolutely.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, if I had a field bet here, I'd probably take it just because Trump is, you know, he likes the drama.

He likes leaking things that are incorrect all the time.

He likes making everyone believe he's going to do A and then do B on television in front of everyone.

I would not be surprised at all that it's not one of these three.

But if he goes off the board, doesn't it have to be somebody that everybody loves?

Can he reunify some people that were against him, people like me that didn't support him, with a Ted Cruz, with a Mike Lee?

Do you pick somebody else?

He's not going to do that.

He's not going to do that.

First of all, Ted Cruz, he wouldn't pick.

I don't think he would pick Mike Lee.

Cruz apparently said he didn't want it, at least as far as reporting went.

He apparently did meet with them initially about the possibility, like Romney met about Secretary of State.

But Cruz was the one who said, you know what, I don't want this.

I've got other work to do right now.

The Mike Lee thing, I don't think Lee is going to be picked.

Quite honestly,

because

not Mike, but his brother, and I think it's because he's a Mormon.

There is still,

with some

evangelicals, a

with Mormons.

And that is one of the things.

Is it

Thomas Hardeman?

I think he's Catholic.

And while I don't think the evangelicals have a problem necessarily with Catholics, I don't think most have a problem even anymore with Mormons, although much more so.

That won't go in his favor.

There's no evangelical on the court.

I think it's only Catholics and Jews that are on the court.

Isn't that right?

Or atheists?

Does he even know?

I don't know.

It's only me.

I think

they're not going off.

And while that is not a first in anybody's checklist, I know that that is one of the things that they would like somebody that reflects them

on the court.

I would be surprised if he went off the list of 20 here with his first pick.

If one were to get blocked, I would not be surprised to see him leave that list of 20.

But I mean, I would be surprised if he left a list of 20.

I would not be at all surprised if he left the most reported, heavily reported three.

I think one of the things that Trump likes about doing this type of delivery, if he does do it, is it helps his narrative that the media is wrong.

Everyone's running stories today that it's one of these three guys.

And then he's going to come, if he were to do this, then he comes out and says, well, they all were reporting.

It was going to be one of those three.

I knew the whole time.

Fake news.

It helps that narrative.

So I think he likes that sort of

approach.

Would not be surprised at all that it's somebody somebody else.

And I don't think if he picks off the list of 20, I don't think any of us are going to be able to come in here tomorrow and say it was a bad pick.

I think we can all say, I'm worried about, like, Hardaman for a while.

If he picks Hardaman,

I'm very worried.

I'm very concerned.

And the evangelicals will be very, very concerned.

However, I won't be able to tell you, there's not enough in his record that says he's not a conservative.

He's been conservative on many things.

It's just one of those things that

once these justices get into action, it never seems to be that they move to the right of where you think they might go.

It's always the opposite.

They always are more liberal than you have considered previously.

I will tell you.

I'm starting with a centrist, it makes me worry.

I will tell you that if I had, if it was a coin toss with me, okay, I'm the president, and it's a coin toss.

Nobody is going to make, and I think Donald Trump is this way.

Nobody's going to make the decision for him.

He's never going to say, okay, you give me this.

I hope not.

He's never going to say, okay, you give me this, and I'll give you whatever you want.

As it should be, if somebody is

working with you, like it is on everything, if I'm working around a bunch of people, Stew.

If I have a coin toss and you say, Glenn, this really means something to me,

I'll do it your way because it helps you, and you're my friend, and we work together, and we've been working well together.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

If it's a coin toss,

if he doesn't give the

evangelicals

the pick that they want, this is literally, there is no one that can say that they won the election for Donald Trump besides Donald Trump and the evangelicals.

Had the evangelicals not behaved the way that leadership of the evangelicals did,

if they would have gone another way

and really led by James Robinson and

shoot, what's his name

at Liberty University and Franklin Graham, if they would have not done what they did,

Donald Trump would not be president today.

I'm convinced of it.

How do you go against that block when all they're asking for is this?

They've said from the beginning, Because of the Supreme Court pick, we must fall in line behind him.

And you know what?

It's not exclusively this way, but Trump does reward loyalty at times.

Not all the time, but at times.

Well, he usually does when somebody has really taken it on the chin for him and excused him of something that goes against what they believe.

And if the evangelicals didn't do that for Donald Trump, I don't know who did.

I mean, they made, they gave him credit and said, hey, Zmaya Culpa is enough.

And I mean, they excused some pretty big things that no one else would have gotten a pass for.

They stood up for him.

And some of them did it early, you know, even in the early.

So I think that might be rewarded.

Is there any reason that he would have to go against the evangelicals?

Any reason that he would say, I mean, I can't think of anything in either one of these three picks or most of the list that he would say, that's going to do it for me.

That's what I want.

I think, well, there is a list

because

I know know some of these guys and I know

they're good guys and they have the best intentions.

And I don't know necessarily who's on the list.

I think Thomas Hardiman is.

I'm not sure.

But

I know that there are three that they have said unacceptable.

On this list, three are absolutely unacceptable.

I don't know who they are.

I think Thomas Hardiman is one of them.

Yeah, I mean, you know, and one thing you might want to look for potentially here is if he says, okay, this list of 20 is acceptable to conservatives, that's what they told me when they gave it to me.

I put it out there.

It was generally well received by most.

There are people that have problems with individual picks, but, you know,

generally speaking, it was a well-received list by conservatives.

One of the things you might want to look for, and this is, I know, one of the issues that some of religious groups have talked about, is, you know, for example,

Trump has continued the executive order by the Obama administration on the LGBTQ issues that happened this morning.

And that was a question of whether he was going to take that back.

He's decided to continue it.

On which one?

I'm sorry.

LGBTQ.

What are the new letters, Jeffy?

IA?

LGBTQIA issues.

What the hell is IA?

What?

Are you serious?

Well, yeah, intersex and asexual.

That's right.

You didn't even bring them up, and I wanted to make sure at least they were included in the conversation.

Thank you.

Thank you.

LBGTQ.

LGBTQ.

Why don't we just start saying, I'm part of the ABCD EFG H-I-J-K-L-M-L-P-Q-R-S-T-U-V-W-X-Y-Z.

That's really

cover it, I will say.

It would really just cover it.

I'm part of that.

That could be very insulting.

Not really insulting.

Very.

But that seems like one of the issues.

You know, the log cabin Republicans called Donald Trump the most pro-gay rights candidate in history to have the nomination.

I mean, I think you can legitimately make the case that he's the most pro-gay rights president to ever take office, office, given the fact that he's the first one that has ever taken office that did not oppose gay marriage.

Remember, Barack Obama, when he took office, opposed gay marriage.

That's right.

So, you know, you have

that might be the type of thing you might look for.

And it looks like Hardiman, and at some level prior as well, has ruled favorably on those issues

for something maybe like Ivanka would like.

And maybe if there's an issue where

he might try to get a little breathing room, it might be that direction.

At least, you know, that's something to speculate on.

But we don't have to speculate for long.

We're going to know tonight, supposedly.

Oh, I can't even imagine.

We should take bets on which city is on fire tonight.

Because it doesn't matter.

If he picks off of that list, every liberal is going to say they are worse than Hitler.

Oh, yeah, that is.

Every single one.

It's the worst person of all time.

They are monsters.

They are going to resurrect Adolf Hitler.

It's coming.

and they are gayer by the way even if he were to pick someone who was acceptable to the left they are so pissed off that they never gave a hearing to merrick garland during the obama administration they've already announced they're going to filibuster and do everything they can to stop this if they can pull it off somehow they are going to um be surprised because i believe he's going to new use the nuclear option yes oh yeah

i mean he will just do

he'll it's 50 vote 51 votes That's it.

That's all we need.

And it'll happen.

And you're assuming it's only one city that's going to burn tonight.

That's true.

I mean, I'm not making something.

I mean, Doc, how concerned are you watching the news just last night?

I mean, we're headed towards.

I mean, where are we headed?

It's just going to keep going that way.

Listen, there's no going back to any of this stuff.

The genie's out of the bottle.

The only way out, sadly, even for people like us that say, hey, we want to talk, is forward.

And forward is going to be through a lot of bad, and there's going to be some climactic moment.

I just hope that climactic moment isn't too devastating, and we can all say, Okay, that's bad.

Let's do something else.

Do you think there's any way back?

No, no, I don't.

Only way back is forward.

Yeah, all right.

I gotta take a break tonight, Facebook, after the presidential announcement.

Uh, join Doc

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All right, so the pick tonight, I'm going off of the top three.

I'm hoping for Gorsuch.

Yeah, I mean, it's a good pick.

I think

if I can add one more name here outside the three, if I could get some odds, I think the value pick is Don Willett from Florida.

And if you don't know him, very smart, conservative, good justice, seemingly would be a good pick, but also great on Twitter.

Fantastic guy on Twitter.

And I think, honestly, like he picks these things a lot of times with sort of a commercial interest in mind.

And I think he would be a good pick and would also give him a little bit of color.

It's not a boring guy you never heard of.

I'm hoping he goes for Gorsuchus, but I've talked myself into Prior because I think it would be the most kind of screw you to

the people on the left.

So I think he may go for it.

Immediately following his pick tonight, I'll be on Facebook Live.

Go to theblaze.com slash Facebook and we'll have full coverage.

It's at facebook.com slash theblaze tonight, immediately following the pick.

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