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I kind of wish Glenn was here for this one because you don't necessarily hear the words, Van Jones said something sane

often on this program.

You do not.

And I will say, you know, I don't want, look, I don't want Van Jones anywhere near the government.

I don't want him running things.

I don't want him as our green czar.

I don't want any of that to occur.

He's pretty good on television, though, I think.

When it comes down to the people they prop up on CNN and give jobs to for endless decades and no one can understand why,

he actually,

yeah, he's done a good job for them.

What are the better ones?

He's done a good job for them.

Would you agree with that?

Yeah, he's done a good job for them.

And that's fine.

Let him stay there.

Yes.

Stay at CNN.

Let him be there.

You're doing great, Van.

Just don't try to run the government anymore.

Just no more of that.

That's a problem, though, because he

dips his hand in.

He's, you you know, I'm sure, very much still tightened.

I will say, though, one of the things that I look for when I'm looking for somebody who

a commentator on one of these shows, and this is the same thing for sports.

You know, the same guys on sports is Stephen A.

Smith's kind of like this, where you just don't always know where he's going to be on something.

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And you can't say that with almost every person on CNN.

Every person.

You know the direction they're going.

You know exactly what...

What's her name?

Abby, whatever her name is.

Every single issue, you know exactly what she's going to say.

Aaron Burnett, you know exactly what she's going to say before the show starts.

Sure, that's them.

I get little value out of people in the media like that.

I don't.

I mean, I know what the baseline opinion is of both sides going into a show, right?

Absolutely.

If I want to hear a comment, I want to read a column.

if I want to get some insight, I want somebody who, at least occasionally, and that's where you get the clips with these particular hosts is a guest that comes on and says something

different than what the narrative they push, because the narrative they push is, that's their narrative.

Right.

All the time.

Those guys, a lot of them just go down the same line over and over again.

And you know, going into the show,

it's almost like, you know, it's the end of a fast and furious sequel.

They're going to get away with it.

Right?

Like, you know, that's what you paid for.

That's what you pay for.

You get in there and you know what you're going to get.

And there's something nice on, there's something to be said for a reliable.

You don't want someone who's crazily all over the board all the time with no consistency.

But like, I like someone who's going to step up and say, hey, look, you know my side of this issue.

My side's wrong on this part.

Here's why.

That's something, and Van Jones at least occasionally does do that.

And I do think it gives him more credibility than your average crazy left-wing person.

The reason I bring this up today, Jeffy, is Van Jones' commentary.

Abby Phillip is her name because this is the show that Van Jones was on.

And I guess they did a Saturday panel.

Van Jones is on the program to get all of the Saturday panels.

And he's talking about DEI.

He's talking about the way woke nonsense has permeated our workplaces.

Yeah, all corporations.

How do you, Jeffy, exist in a world like that?

Because you do not seem to be the guy that would embrace any wokeness anywhere.

That's because you just automatically tell the HR people, you don't concern me.

And they leave you alone.

Yeah.

And they leave you alone.

That's pretty much your policy.

That's the thing around here.

Jeffy will come in, and the first conversation you have with him is so incredibly offensive

that he's already moved on.

Yeah, people just move on to the moment.

You almost don't even get involved in that.

Like you somehow just go around the HR department.

This is what Van Jones said.

He said, for some companies, the new message to employees is check your politics and your activism at the door when you come to work.

And this is the intro to his segment.

He said, CEOs are making one thing clear.

The office is not the public square.

And they're probably not wrong about that.

Now, Philip went on to talk about this.

Jones, Van Jones, says, this is not going to make me popular.

Now, Ken, this is the thing with Jones, in that This is going to make him popular, right?

Like, this actually is something the American people are fine with, but it's not going to make him popular at CNN, I guess is what he was saying.

This is not going to make me popular, but I'm not mad about this change because it got ridiculous.

I mean, I'm an employer, and at a certain point, your Slack channel just turns into Vietnam every other day

because something happened that had nothing to do with work with the workplace.

Right.

He says, this is not camp, guys.

We're trying to make money, which is funny to coming from a guy who was formerly a communist, at least formerly a communist.

Now,

so he says, so I enjoyed the the moment for a while when we were having our reckonings about everything.

We done wrecked, okay?

Yeah.

We went from reckoning to wrecked.

We need to move on.

I think that's where the American people certainly are.

I think so too.

I don't know that the corporate people are there yet, though.

They may say that they are.

We were just talking about this.

It's the corporations are saying that they've moved on from the, yeah, we've gotten rid of those departments and no problem, but they've just kind of just retitled it.

There is some of that definitely going on.

Yeah, there's definitely some of that going on.

Yeah, it's not DEI.

Right.

No, I got it.

It's not, you know, that's, what's his face Fauci used to always say that?

Well, that's not gain of function.

It's not gain of function.

Well,

it is.

You just call it something else.

That was the most infuriating exchange maybe of all time.

But I mean, it is that.

It's just that you're calling it something else.

We're all rant Paul in that exchange, right?

We're all like, wait a minute, but this is what it is.

And many corporations are that way with the DEI stuff.

So, I mean, I don't know that

if it's hidden better or, but at least we're making headway.

I think that's true.

And that's important, like that we note that.

I've said this a few times lately because I've been stewing on it a little bit, if you will.

But we all have this weird connection to 2020, like early 2020,

when everybody was locked down, right?

There was, you know, famously Trump Fauci on stage saying two weeks is to slow the spread, and then it was six weeks, I think, to slow the spread.

If you were in California, it was 837 weeks to slow the spread.

But like, you know, Texas was different, right?

We've talked about this sort of two-tier country we built, which allowed places like Texas and Florida to go back to pretty much normal life in a short period of time.

And we weren't perfect.

No, I mean, a stretch of of the imagination, but definitely

we were back to the new normal.

Yeah, but I went out to dinner after taping a show on May 1st, 2020, indoor dining.

Right.

Myself and my family.

I say this to you, and you look at me like, yeah, right.

Well,

talk to somebody from a blue state and say that to them.

May 1st, 2020, I was out at an indoor dining experience in Texas.

I talked to my friends who live in New York and live in California, and they look at me like I'm an alien.

Not even it wasn't even a consideration.

They weren't even walking their dogs.

They were just letting them poop in the house.

That was

basically where they were.

How many bodies did you step over to get to that restaurant?

None.

Now, it was at that time 25% capacity.

But I think

I remember it being

weird.

It was a weird experience.

Like people were standing, you know,

the waiters and waitresses were standing far away from you talking to you, and the tables were all empty.

First of all, traffic situation was incredible.

I got to say that.

I will say that.

That was awesome.

That was a pleasure.

Yes, it was.

And I'm not saying I want another pandemic to happen to help my traffic situation, but, you know, I'm not saying it.

But when you're sitting here and looking at that 2020 period, right, Jeffy, we all look at that.

It's almost like it was an alien culture.

Right?

For sure.

This is America.

You don't do things like that.

We know it was was so strange, and we all feel like we live in a totally different world than April 2020.

I don't think we've had a real reckoning yet as to how bizarre summer of 2020 was and into 2021, not when it comes to COVID, but when it comes to wokeness, when it comes to that, what we call kind of the George Floyd era, where every company comes out and makes bizarre statements about wokeness, the example I keep coming back to is the NHL, the National Hockey League, tweeting with no explanation, trans rights are human rights.

Trans women are women.

What are you talking about?

You're a hockey league.

I know.

Moving the all-star game from Atlanta for baseball for no reason.

No reason at all.

At all.

These things were happening and we were just like, wow, this is, can't believe they went that far.

And we kind of,

we didn't shrug our shoulders, but I'm saying as a nation for a while, we kind of shrugged our shoulders.

That's what they've got to do.

Thought this was the new normal.

It's one of the reasons why I think people love Donald Trump so much because he said, no,

nope, not the new normal.

We're totally changing this.

Yeah, I mean, and if he had,

I believe, if he had gone by his gut in 2020 with the

two or three weeks to slow the curve

and then say, okay, we're good.

We're good.

Get back to it.

I think that.

And I will say, I think he kind of did that.

If you remember, there was a big debate about Donald Trump saying, or kind of rehashing COVID here.

It's a little off topic, but if you allow us this.

And that got us into the wolves now.

He came out and there was a big debate at the time of whether we were going to be open for Easter.

Remember that?

And Trump was saying

the reason we were all for it is because it was like, yeah, we don't want to do this, but okay, if you're telling me it's going to be a couple of weeks, then let's do it for a couple of weeks and we're going to move on.

And all for it is a stretch, as I know you would admit.

We were not all for it.

But like, I think the American people were willing.

And by the way, this is-we're really, I'm going back and really rehashing this now, but

look at the cell phone data of that period.

People were going home and staying home before Donald Trump said word one about two weeks to celebrate

at that time.

Everyone likes to forget it, but at that time,

a lot of people you knew it was coming.

It was a scary thing.

No one knew what it was.

We found out pretty quick that it wasn't as scary as it seemed.

They're locking people indoors in China.

But at the time, people were pretty nervous about what was coming

and didn't want to test it.

And they were saying, you know what?

If I can stay home for a couple of weeks, fine.

People did that basically willingly before,

and people don't like to remember this, but it's before Trump even said those words.

I mean, things, places were emptying out.

I remember going, a lot of my life is about remembering going out to dinner, so you have to excuse me here, but I remember going out to dinner with my parents, my wife's family who were in town,

her dad and stepmom, and they were in town, and they flew in, I don't know,

it was like March 9th, 2020, and they were in town for a week.

They're never leaving.

Right, right.

And we went out to dinner the night before they were supposed to leave, which they left.

They did get out.

It was a completely empty flight.

It was after the quote-unquote shutdown.

It was, they were there before and left after.

So you think we should leave?

Absolutely.

Yeah, right.

You're fine.

You're fine.

Get out of here.

We went out to dinner like the night before that and went to a restaurant and there were no shutdown orders anywhere.

This is before all that happened.

The place was a ghost town.

People made those decisions on their own, which, by the way, is how our society is supposed to operate.

If you're freaked out about something like that, you're supposed to make a decision for you and your family that you want to stay home.

You get to do that.

That's how it's supposed to work.

So we went down that road and we all kind of went through that period and we know how alien that felt.

The fact that every company was folding to every left-wing demand for a period of about 18 months is just insanity.

And it doesn't, we have not fully reckoned with that period yet.

No, and Van is, you know, pretty much right.

Many of these companies did wreck it and they're wrecked because of it.

And no one, you can't, you can't do business this way.

You can't.

You can't.

I want to give you a little bit of a new development that has just come up, not just Van Jones' comments, but some actual action at a major corporation when it comes to changing their DEI policies.

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Robbie Starbuck has had a couple of these big wins with these companies.

He does deep dives on them and then they seem to buckle, man.

And he says, hey, we're about to do a story on you.

And they're like, okay, here's all of our changes.

Like, this has happened multiple times with Robbie Starbuck, really doing incredible work on this stuff i i don't uh i don't know how he got started in it but it he seems to be at the center of a lot of these things him and chris ruffo and i think it was because of the uh the wrecking the wrecking they went too far yeah i think it was and people you know were starting to actually pay the price and you saw what what was going on internally in these companies and they decided that's you know enough and he it seems to be working good for him yeah let me give it to you beautiful too yeah massive news from Robbie Starbuck.

He says, I contacted PepsiCo.

These are not tiny companies.

Pepsi.

Just pick up a phone call.

To let them know I planned on doing a story about their woke policies.

When I contacted them, they were ready to make some big changes.

They're just waiting for the phone calls from Robbie Starbuck and Chris Rubo.

They're like, hey, we discovered you're doing this.

Okay, here's our changes.

I can now exclusively tell you what's changing.

This is what from Robbie Starbuck.

PepsiCo will no longer have a DEI officer.

PepsiCo will no longer have a DEI team.

PepsiCo will end DEI representation goals.

PepsiCo will no longer participate in the woke

CEI social credit assistance survey.

Woke transagenda activists at the HRC are losing influence and power by the day.

They will end all DEI trainings.

Can you just imagine this if you happen to be someone who's making a delicious

Diet Wild cherry Pepsi, which is, by the way, fantastic.

And you're sitting back and you're like, I just want to make freaking delicious carbonated beverages.

And you have to show up to some stupid DEI training.

And today you find out you're out of it.

What a what?

That's like a

freedom, a day of freedom.

You're just all of a sudden realizing

my next week, which was going to suck, now goes back to actual work and productivity for the American people.

I love that.

He goes on, instead of supplier diversity, PepsiGo is now focused on growing their small business supplier base.

There will now be centralized management of all employee groups to ensure that their activities align with the core business.

There's a crazy idea.

Align your business with your business.

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Focus on making your freaking drinks, right?

That's how it's supposed to work.

There's more to this.

It says they will now, going forward, the strategy will be about growth and how they drive the growth of the business.

He says I have to give their executives major credit for making these changes because these are some big changes.

You can see an email that he attaches.

And he goes on to say this, and this is part of

maybe a larger picture when it comes to consolidation.

But he says, keep in mind, this doesn't just affect Pepsi.

PepsiCo owns the following brands: Gatorade, Quaker Oatmeal, Chewy Bars, Starbucks,

the coffees and glass that's sold at grocery stores.

They don't own all of Starbucks.

Amp Energy, Rockstar Energy, Mug Root Beer, Mountain Dew, Sobey, Captain Crunch Cereal.

So there's no more DEI on that ship.

They were doing all that stuff with a weird all-berry cereal.

That's not going to happen.

Well, that might continue.

King Vitamin Cereal, Sabra, Hummus, Aunt Jamima, Tropicana.

I wonder if

we get Aunt Jemima back on the bottle?

No, I think we lost her.

I want her back.

I don't know.

That's one of those central moments of the woke era when they took this poor black woman off the bottle for no reason, even though African Americans loved it.

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Welcome back to the Glenbeck program.

It is Stu and Jeffy in for Glenn this week.

Pat will be joining us later in the week as well.

Got a great week planned for you.

And so much stuff going on, including this Robbie Starbuck development with Pepsi, where he has

contacted them.

He said he'd let them know he was going to write an article about their woke DEI policy.

I love that.

I love it.

I love it.

I just find it like, okay, so you started going down the list of companies under the PepsiCo umbrella.

I mean, that's a lot of companies.

They own

many, many businesses underneath them.

So the head of PepsiCo,

he's sitting around saying

just wait until robbie calls right if robbie doesn't call we're not going to do anything i i don't know maybe i guess it feels like the type of thing where you know how we have plans at the white house and throughout the department of defense that are

uh they're plans like if a nuclear bomb goes off

in you know albuquerque

how do we respond to that and and and if because you can't just come up with a new plan if one goes off in Albuquerque, you need to get a great, give me the file.

What do we have?

And that's what happens.

I feel like that's what's happening at these companies now.

They're just kind of sitting back and trying to stay out of the news.

And if they get a call from Robbie Starbucks, they're like, okay, give me the file.

We don't want to follow the news.

There we go.

Yeah.

Yeah, here we go.

So we mentioned a bunch of these companies.

I'll give you the rest of this list because it is fascinating.

It's not just Pepsi.

There's a bunch of different brands.

We mentioned Captain Crunch.

Aunt Jeremiah is the, I will say, we ended on that one.

She's not coming back.

That's the one I want back the most.

She's not coming back.

That was, I think,

maybe the craziest single moment.

If you had to define the craziest single moment of the woke era, I think it was that moment where it was like, Uncle Ben is no longer on our boxes.

Yeah, yeah.

Why?

He's black?

Question mark?

I think we're taking him off because

saying that we have an uncle who's black is bad.

Saying we have an aunt on our syrup bottle is bad.

Yeah.

That one too.

Aunt Jemima.

And like that that one in particular.

I also have a couple of those in my cupboard, by the way, that I see frequently.

It's funny.

I bought them before they took her off the bottle, too.

Now, Jeffy, you do know that it's been a while.

I don't know that you should be having the syrup that you bought back then.

I didn't say I'd use it.

That's a collector's edition, man.

It is a collector's edition, seriously.

But they took her off the bottle.

And I remember at the time we went through all the market research.

What was fascinating about that is that, like, I'll enjoy some Aunt Jemima syrup.

It's fine.

I may have squeezed a little bit of that out of a few items myself.

I believe that.

However, we were not the target audience for Aunt Jemima's syrup.

Antemima's syrup was heavily favored by the African-American consumer.

Okay, fine.

Whatever, fine.

They had the choice as to which syrup they wanted to choose.

And they chose that.

Disproportionately chose the one with a very nice-looking

African-American aunt on the bottle because it connected with them.

They said, you know what?

That reminds me of the old days.

Like my, I remember my aunt making me pancakes or whatever.

And so they decided they chose it.

And we said to them, as white people, you don't understand

the syrup you're choosing is actually racist against you.

Right, right.

Therefore, we're going to take the woman that you love on this bottle and remove her from history.

Because we know.

Because we are smart whites.

Right.

We are smart whites.

We're smart, liberal, progressive whites, and we know better for you.

That's right, and we know that when we look at it, we see racism.

And when we see racism and you don't, we make the decision.

You no longer get your product.

And they did.

And they did.

That's what happened.

We should give back Aunt Jemima to the whole world.

Black, white, we should all come together and demand Aunt Jemima get back on those boxes.

I'm okay with bringing her back, but I don't think.

What we need to do is get Robbie on this one.

Because

he'll get it done.

Call him up.

Apparently, all Robbie has to do is call.

All right.

Let's make it happen.

So you got on Jemima, Tropicana, Rice-A-Roni, Cheetos, Doritos.

No more.

Now, has Chester ever been

accused of all sorts of real things, but never anything on the racism front, as far as I can.

Lays, ruffles, tostitos, Chester's, Cracker Jack, Frito-Lay, Funions, which, by the way, are freaking delicious.

A lot of those

kids are so afraid.

I'm not sure if you're your boy RFK, though, now.

No, all RFK does is just

they change it from corn syrup to sugar.

everyone's like, oh, now it's healthy.

Okay.

We've got

Cracker Jack, Frito-Lace, Funions, Grandma's Cookies, Miss Vicki's, Rolled Gold, Stacy's Pita.

You ever seen a Pita bread, Jeffy?

You ever see it?

Well, I know you've never seen a salad.

Have you ever seen a.

Yes.

Okay, you understand what a pita is.

There are people in my house that

purchase those products.

Sun chips, Crush, Lipton Teas, Aquafina, Propel Zero, and more.

318,000 employees that no longer have to go to these stupid DEI conferences at PepsiGo, thanks to Robbie.

Market cap of over $200 billion.

He says we've now changed policy at companies worth well over $4 trillion.

And that's awesome.

Many millions of employees who have better workplace environments as a result.

This is how he ends it.

With PepsiCo changing policy, Coca-Cola should be very nervous about continuing with their woke policies.

The spotlight is on them next.

So there you go.

A pretty impressive.

I hope that's true.

You know, I was looking at a lot of universities where I started talking about how I hope that they change it, that the DEI goes away.

Because where I was reading about the changes were universities.

They all had their head of the DEI department and their old departments throughout the whole university.

And many universities, just if not all of them, said, yep, they're going away now.

We don't have them anymore.

There's no more DEI department.

That person is not the head of DEI.

Yet they just kind of, you know,

redirected

funding to, you know, that, well, that just works on student success and professional development.

It's still the same kind of

people.

You get kind of, yes, and these same names and the same people.

So while we lose the specific DEI,

that inbred thought is still there.

You bring up an interesting point, Jeffy.

And I think this is an interesting conversation for

how we look at this woke era in retrospect, hopefully, even though there's still plenty of it going on.

I think there's a difference between an ideological organization and a normie capitalist organization.

And

Jennifer Say calls it normie capitalism, the idea that we just all do our business and we don't get involved in politics and we just do our thing.

Like we just go out there and we make products that are great, that people enjoy, and that's what it is.

That's what capitalism is supposed to be.

we got into this world of woke capitalism where everyone was making a statement and everyone had a brand you know

persona and you know chester cheetah was talking about the the you know how the native americans were i like i i don't even understand what was happening for a while there but i do think there's a difference between an ideological company or organization and a normal capitalist organization where you have a university which these are universities built around creating thought and forming the future of the country, right?

They're not going to flip over and decide to get rid of their DEI policies in any real way, largely because they're created to try to make the world that way.

Many of these people have 80, 90% of their employees who are working there specifically to indoctrinate children into woke and left-wing ideologies, right?

Yeah, that's right.

That's not the case at Pepsi.

The people working at Pepsi are there because they want jobs.

They want to create a product that people like and enjoy, give people a treat every once in a while, and they want to be able to go home to their families and live their lives.

I think that's the vast majority of people who work at Pepsi, unlike the people who work at Harvard, who are there intentionally to indoctrinate

smart children into this.

So I think there was a debate back in the woke, the peak woke time, as to whether these companies actually meant this stuff or whether they were just doing it because they thought it was the thing they were supposed to do.

I feel like we've answered that question now.

I think most of these companies did it because that was what they thought they had to do to get through that time.

Where maybe, and I think we have to all be on guard for this,

the opposite might be true now.

It's not that these companies have

woken up, if you will, to the anti-woke ideals.

They're not back to a true American.

Now we realize we should have been, you know, American principles this whole time.

It's just what they think they should do right now.

And many of the people who are getting, you know, coming into work, the workplace from these universities have the indoctrination.

Yeah, exactly.

And they will move these companies

at some point.

And this is a terrible thing to think about, but at some point, a Democrat will be president again.

At some point, the left will have the Senate in the House, and they will launch all sorts of investigations.

Wait, are you telling me that we have the White House and we have the Congress?

Yeah, the House and the Senate.

We have the Supreme Court.

Yeah, Supreme Court.

We have all three branches.

Yeah, we've pretty much

everything right now.

I thought when that happened, life is perfect.

Yeah, you know, it's fascinating how that doesn't necessarily always occur.

But things are better, quite clearly, than certainly the Biden era, if you will.

But at some point, there's another equivalent to a Biden era, where whether it's 2028 or 2032 or 2036, they will try to wrestle their control back to

their side.

And a lot of these companies will start doing what they want at that time.

So it is important to note that this doesn't necessarily mean this is an endless change that we can kind of cross the finish line and never have to deal with again.

You know, it's the idea of like, well, I've arrived.

You never arrive.

There's never, you never arrive.

It's never over.

You never finish that battle.

You're always needing to continue to work and work and work.

The country is tiresome, Stu.

It is.

It is tiresome.

It's just so tiresome.

It is tiresome.

It really is.

Because we can mock how, well, you should be out there fighting every day.

Most people have lives.

Most people have jobs.

They're not like us.

Jeffy and I, sure, we sit here and we talk into the microphone every day as this is our job.

And, you know, it's easy to be critical.

Like, why aren't you calling your congressman nine times a day?

Nobody wants wants to do that.

No.

You know, our government should operate at a higher level than that.

They shouldn't need us to remind them to be sane every day.

But apparently, that's what it takes.

Apparently, we need to do that on a daily basis.

Constantly remind them, constantly badger them.

Constantly have Robbie Starbuck call up our beverage suppliers.

And good idea.

And I appreciate Robbie for doing that.

Yeah, and remind them they shouldn't be communists.

If you got time, Robbie, call my congressman.

Please.

Let him know.

This is what I'm going to do all the time.

Like, if I, you know, like, if my wife is saying, like, you know, we really need to decorate the, redo the kitchen, it's going to be like $40,000.

I just need Robbie Starbuck to call her.

Be like, I don't think you want to do that.

You want to do that.

I don't think you're redecorating this week.

You want people to know about it.

I love it.

That's what we need.

We need to just implement Robbie into all parts of our lives.

Okay.

Whenever you have a hassle, like, oh, like, hey, you really need to enjoy, you need to join the gym, honey.

Oh, God.

What's that, that?

Robbie saying, what?

If I go to the gym, you know, people die exercising all the time, Jeffy.

People collapse on treadmills.

It's terrible.

Plus, we haven't really talked about the big gym, but they've got a DEI.

We're going after another.

I love that.

Because I think really where the correct landing place for people was actually outlined by Brian Armstrong at Coinbase years ago in the middle of the peak woke era.

He was the only guy at that point who came out and said, said, hey, guys,

you can be activists all you want on your own time.

What we're going to do here at work is

work.

If you want to be active about a political issue, it should be about cryptocurrency, which is our business.

Outside of that, shut up.

And if you don't like it, go.

See you later.

And some people did.

Okay.

And good.

Good.

Good.

Good.

Embrace that.

Embrace them leaving.

They are saving you so much hassle.

Absolutely.

And then

you actually get to go through your business and actually do things like that.

You have to do that.

And he wasn't, Coinbase is a non-partisan company.

This isn't like the Blaze.

Do your job.

It's easy for us at the Blaze to do something like that, right?

Because we are an ideological company in that we are a conservative company.

We come to you from that perspective proudly.

And so obviously it's easy for us to do that.

When you're a company that is just a normal company, the pressures are real.

These people are just like Robbie's badgering them now.

They were getting badgered by left-wing organizations to participate in this nonsense, and they all folded to it for a while.

Luckily, that's changing, and we're really, really happy about that.

It's a good change.

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We've been talking about the woke phenomenon and how it's, I don't know,

it's decreasing, but still there.

Don't give up.

The fight is not over for sure.

There's a lot of work to do.

We'll get into that.

J.K.

Rowling had an incident that we needed to get into because she's constantly fighting with these people on the market.

She is the head of the hill of the LGBTQ

plus mafia

syndicate, whatever they call themselves.

Man, she's at the top of the list.

So she came out with her list, and I found it fascinating.

Okay, well, let's get into that because I want to know what her list actually is.

Because they were saying that they wanted to do some sort of Harry Potter revival.

Yeah, yeah.

And she's losing people that won't work for her, more people that have worked for her before and now aren't saying, no, I'm not going to work for her anymore.

And she's like, okay, I'm

really legitimately incredible that we are at a, that anyone would think if someone

says that a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl, that they should be the ones that are treated like ostracized from our society.

Now, I know,

I just don't even understand it.

It's so completely crazy.

Well, maybe you will see the list.

After we hear the list.

Maybe we hear the list.

This will change my mind.

Also, we have updates on the trans shooting that happened in Minneapolis at the church.

Some updates on that, including some brilliant analysis from Rosie O'Donnell that I think you'll appreciate.

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So I want to get into the update on the trans shooting in Minneapolis here in just a second, but I want to continue what we were going on last hour because there's been this sort of pushback against the woke stuff in our culture.

And one of the first people who really

who stood up and just said, I'm not going along with this.

I know I'm supposed to.

I know I'm a celebrity.

I know I'm supposed to do what every other celebrity is doing, but I'm not going to do it.

And that is J.K.

Rowley.

Now, she has the seemingly, outside of Elon Musk, the most FU money perhaps that anyone has.

Well, she's she's, I think she's

a billionaire.

She's only worth over a billion.

A little over a billion, right?

Sorry.

Maybe she still plays the lotto.

I mean, you know, we got the powerball that's 1.3 billion here in a couple days.

Yeah.

1.3.

I'm in a consortium of ticket buyers.

I'm involved in a consortium that

we buy a bunch of tickets.

I won a little money off this past weekend on the lotto.

So, I mean, you do win.

You can't win if you don't play.

That's true, Jeff.

I won $22,

Stu.

And you only spent $138 to get it.

I don't recall

expensive, Stu.

I don't recall.

It's not important.

The point is, you won $22.

So congratulations, thank you.

Thank you.

I reinvested some of that into the next lotto drawing.

but

of course.

You just make sure you give it all back to them.

So

J.K.

Rally doesn't need the lotto.

She's over a billion, right?

She's over a billionaire.

And so she, at some level, she can say whatever she wants.

But

I think that minimizes her stand here because a lot of people are very wealthy and wind up just going along with this stuff.

They don't want to deal with a hassle.

And she said, you know what?

Actually,

I care about women's rights.

I care about people that women should be known as women and men should be known as men and we should not

go down that road.

Hated for it

from the other side.

She is enemy number one to,

I mean, even more than like Donald Trump or any mean big political figure.

They hate her.

They do hate her.

J.K.

Robinson.

The LGBTQ IA Plus syndicate, Mafia

definitely hate her.

I don't know if it's more than Trump, though.

Man, Trump's...

They hate him for a multitude of of reasons.

That's true.

But she definitely is on the hated list.

Well, because they feel like they should have her.

You know, she's a

female.

They'll never get Trump.

She is.

She should be with them.

Yeah, she's

overseas.

You know, when you're over, well, she's in the UK, right?

Like, she's...

You're supposed to just have those people, especially when they're famous.

We like Harry Potter so much.

We like Harry Potter and we like it.

We want to like her and we can't.

And they want her to just zip it, and she won't do it.

She won't do it.

So she posted this weekend: as another man who once worked for me declares himself saddened by my beliefs on gender and sex, I thought it might be useful to compile a list for a handy reference.

Which of the following do you imagine makes actors and directors who aren't involved with the HBO reboot of Harry Potter so miserable?

Is it my belief that women and girls should have their own public changing rooms and bathrooms?

That's a crazy idea right there, right off the bat.

I want to be clear.

I'm going to go down this list.

This is her.

This is not a challenge.

Okay, so you're not taking risk.

No, no, no.

Jeffy, who

has said a couple of controversial things in the past,

listen to old shows.

Don't do that.

Don't do that.

He wants you to know that this is not Jeffy.

This is not me.

This is JK Ray.

That's right.

That women should retain female-only rape crisis centers.

Now, there are big requests and there are little requests.

I feel like this one falls into the latter category.

This is not a big request to have rape centers for women only that are actually

real women, not men saying that they're women.

That men don't belong in women's sport.

This one seems quite obvious.

There was a bunch of videos going around viral this weekend of some like...

you know, NBA, like, practice squad player just going one-on-five against a WNBA team and just like dominating them.

Yeah, which would absolutely happen.

That's what happens.

I'm sorry.

Yes, absolutely.

That female prisoners shouldn't be incarcerated with violent men and male sex offenders.

This one might be the lowest hurdle of all to clear.

Putting people who've committed crimes in prison with women is not a good idea for a multitude of reasons.

His name is Stubergir.

Oh, I'm just quoting J.K.

Rowley, I promise.

That women should remain a protected class in law because they have specific needs and issues.

They're different.

Now, that's one that I bet you in the old days, Jeffy, there'd be areas of that one.

We disagree with her on.

Absolutely.

Saying that, like, I'm worried about whether you're giving preferential treatment to one gender over the other.

You know, what I want is equal treatment for everybody.

But I do certainly acknowledge that men and women are different.

And women certainly, certainly do have different needs.

When it comes to things like, you know, pregnancy,

there are definitely some rules that apply to only women and not men, like the rules around pregnancy.

That was stupid, by the way, Sam.

Thank you.

Thank you.

That language should reflect reality rather than ideological jargon, especially in a medical context, that women shouldn't be harassed, persecuted, or fired for refusing to pretend humans can change sex.

I mean, what a statement.

Language should reflect reality.

That is a controversial statement in our culture right now.

Right.

Language should reflect reality.

What is the point of language if it doesn't?

It doesn't reflect reality.

The whole point of it is to try to describe what's going on.

If these words don't mean anything, you can't communicate to people.

There's that story, Jeffy, from a few years ago where...

a woman comes into the uh

it was a a guy who came in yeah it was a guy who came in

to the hospital, emergency room, having all sorts of horrible pains,

came in complaining to the doctor.

Doctor goes, does all these tests.

They can't figure out what's going on.

They can't treat it.

And

what happens?

The guy dies.

Later, they find out that the guy was pregnant.

So not a guy.

He was a person saying they were a guy, telling the doctors that they were a guy.

And because of the pregnancy issues that were going on with the woman who was pregnant, they didn't treat the pregnancy.

They instead tried to treat him as if he had like abdominal pain.

Now, it's hard for me to understand how a doctor

would not understand what was going on in this situation, right?

Which makes me think that they did understand

and intentionally treated this man or this woman, excuse me, like it was a man to respect the pronouns, and it wound up

costing this person their lives.

Wow.

I mean,

it's a revolting story, and it's happened more than once.

This is not like a, it's not super common, but it is, it does happen.

Language should reflect

reality.

Important, boys and girls.

That women should not be threatened with violence and rape when they assert their rights.

No, they should not be.

That's

quite clear.

Threatened with violence or rape when they assert their rights.

That freedom of speech and belief are essential to a pluralistic democratic society.

Freedom of speech and belief are essential to a pluralistic democratic society.

Okay.

That troubled minors, especially those who are gay, autistic, and trauma-experienced, should be given mental health support instead of irreversible surgeries and drug treatments on non-existent evidence of benefit.

You think?

You don't think we should just start cutting people up when they show some signs of mental distress?

What could go wrong?

You know, a lot can go wrong.

What could go wrong?

JK and Jeffy.

That gay people shouldn't be pressured to include the opposite sex in their dating pools, nor should they be smeared as genital fetish when they don't.

This is a weird one because I feel like this was the example.

When all this stuff started.

This was the example

used as like, imagine if it gets to this point where they're telling men who like women that they also have to like trans people or their haters, right?

Like you have to open up, if you're on, I don't know, Tinder, Jeffy, how many apps are you on these days?

40, 50?

If you're on,

couple.

If you're on Tinder and you're like, hey, I want a woman between the ages of 30 and 40

with these characteristics and blah, blah, blah.

You have to also include, by the way, 100% in on trans people who are actually men, but are saying they're women because I'm not a hater.

Like, that was the example we'd use.

If this spirals out of control and goes crazy, it could go to here.

And then six months later, we were just there.

Here we are.

It was no longer a crazy example.

It was just the reality of what the left was saying and what people on television were saying.

As if it was totally normal.

Yep.

Cross-dressing, heterosexual male fetus aren't actually oppressed, but having the time of their lives, like piggybacking off gender identity ideology.

I don't know if they're having the times of their lives.

It seems like a festive community, so perhaps that's true.

That said, ideology and the privileged, blinkered fools pushing it because they suffer zero consequences themselves, have done more damage to the political left's credibility than Trump and Farage could have achieved in a century.

It's true.

Then she asked, Let me have your thoughts.

J.K.

Rowling, you know, I think it's interesting to think back to the, let's say, the end

of the Obama administration.

So 2014, 2015.

Okay.

Good times.

There were times.

I will say that.

I think that list you just gave has

a north of of 95% approval rating.

Sure.

I think

95% of people would agree with

basically every one of those statements.

Let's say, I don't know how many there were, 12, 10 out of 12, right?

I think 95% of the American public would agree with that.

Yes.

Now,

I still think almost everybody agrees with it, but I do think if you asked people in a poll, they would tell you

it's probably only 60% or 70% or 65% now.

Because

Because I think a lot of people have just gone down this road where

they have convinced themselves of things they know to be untrue that they're going to say anyway.

And here's a statement that I'll come out with.

Language should reflect reality.

I just heard that somewhere.

Yeah.

And if it doesn't, you end up with a lot of big problems, bigger than whether there should

a dude in your daughter's volleyball game, bigger than that.

Those are big issues.

I'm not saying they're not.

They absolutely are.

We've talked about them a lot.

They're important to talk about.

But

we start getting into things when language doesn't reflect reality, what you get is not just men in women's sports, you get stuff like Minneapolis.

When we are convincing people

that

First of all, there's nothing wrong with not being able to identify what your gender is if you think it's the opposite if everyone around you in reality knows you're a dude and you're saying you're a chick

you are the one with the problem you are the one not them not not not them not recognizing your pronouns that's not the problem the problem is that you have not become able to detect reality

and while There is a very normal, I think, instinct among Americans, a good instinct, I think, generally, to say, hey, like, hey, whatever they want to do.

Yeah, they got their things.

He thinks he's a chick.

Okay, whatever.

That works out in most circumstances.

The problem with it here, in this particular circumstance, is, number one, we're asked to participate in that delusion and that lie.

There's a true thing.

This person is a guy.

That murderer was a guy.

And then there is this false thing.

that he is now a woman.

He's now, because he signed a piece of paper with the government, he's now a girl.

And we're supposed to participate in that.

So, that's part number one.

It weakens the importance of truth in your civilization.

And truth in your civilization, I promise you, is important.

You have to have something you can agree on that is true.

So, you have that going on.

And then, the other part of this is it's quite obvious to everyone in the world that when you can't apprehend

reality,

bad things happen.

When you are anorexic and telling your mom that you're really, really fat and you have to go on a diet,

if the response to that is, you're right, honey, you are fat, you do need to go on a diet, bad things happen.

And when you do the same thing here, when you not only indulge and participate in this particular falsehood, but you lionize the person for lying to themselves,

you come up with a really twisted,

problematic part of your civilization doesn't mean that they're all going to go out and kill people obviously not that's just a stupid thing to even suggest and it's what the media focuses on well stop blaming the trans community i'm not blaming the trans community i'm blaming the person who committed the murders Yeah, but it is important to note that when you can't get a handle on reality, you wind up doing a lot of strange things.

Sometimes there are things that we just kind of look at and say, hmm, that's a little odd.

Weird.

But sometimes they're not.

Sometimes they're like what happened in Minneapolis or or Nashville, or we can go through the entire list.

It's a little too long.

I want to get into that and how the media is handling that here in a second.

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Maybe you can, maybe if you're on the phones, you can help.

You can help the New York Times.

They just don't know.

They can't figure out what could have possibly motivated this shooting in Minneapolis.

We may never know is the headline.

What motivated the Minneapolis church shooter?

We may never know.

Oh, my gosh.

Investigators combing through piles of evidence from an attack on a Minneapolis church cautioned that these kinds of shooters often leave more questions than answers.

This is a real article, by the way.

I'm not, this isn't like, hey, ChatGPT, give me a fake article from the New York Times that mocks their terrible coverage.

That's not what I did here.

This is a real article from the New York Times.

It has become hauntingly routine paradox in the aftermath of horrific shootings.

An assailant leaves piles of evidence that investigators scrutinize.

But law enforcement officials are often left with more questions than answers as they seek to determine a motive.

Now, I read some.

I didn't read, I don't have all the evidence that they have.

That's true.

But I have read a decent amount of what this dope wrote, whose name we will not use.

And

I was fascinated to say when he said he, one of the reasons he did this is because he wanted to kill children because he enjoyed it.

That was a pretty clear motive to me.

I thought that was like maybe the clearest motive.

He also talked about wanting to kill a bunch of public figures.

He talked about, I mean, he did say a lot of stuff.

He seemed to hate every group.

Including himself.

Including himself.

And of course, that was also the motive, right?

Mental illness.

And here's the thing.

Going back to our previous conversation, Jeffy.

One of the things we say after mass shootings happen is, gosh, this guy was mentally ill.

Why didn't people step in when they saw signs of it?

The sign of it is saying saying

that you don't know what gender you are.

That's the sign of it.

People don't step in when they see that sign.

They congratulate them and celebrate them and say how wonderful it is.

And you're the problem if you don't.

They encourage kids.

Yes, they do.

That is the issue, right?

That is the issue here.

It doesn't mean that all of these things add up to the same horrible recipe, but oftentimes they do, and it seems to be an increasing problem in our country.

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We are on a mission, on a hunt.

We are on an archaeological dig to discover what the motive could have been

in the Minneapolis shooting.

No, I don't think we will.

I I don't think we'll ever find out.

It's too hard to find out.

Well, you know,

one thing we could definitely say, though, I think we can both agree on this.

It had to be a white MAGA Republican who did it.

Thank you.

That's how we.

In fact,

you and I were on the air when it first happened.

And,

I mean, we both thought the same thing.

Immediately when we got the news.

White MAGA Republican.

White MAGA Republican.

Yep.

We knew right away.

Absolutely.

It had to be somebody who's a Trump voter because we've never seen violence come from the left.

We've never seen...

Like, I mean, if we had all this violence from the left, we'd probably see President Trump having to dodge bullets on stage every other day.

Oh, wait, that's happening.

I forgot.

I forgot that's actually true.

Although there's many out there that are trying to say that that was fake, that that was a put-on.

Is that really still happening?

I don't know that it's actually still happening, but I do see it from time to time, which makes me believe that it actually is.

Or maybe there's a couple of people still trying to push that narrative, and maybe that's what I see.

And I don't know that anybody buys it, but it's still out there.

I will say, if you happen to, if you're, let's say, on X or Facebook or whatever, you probably

are either blocking or muting a bunch of really annoying leftists.

And that's, of course, the right move because it'll drive you insane.

But I would recommend having one

in your face.

I have a couple that.

Keep a couple.

Just so you can kind of keep an eye on what they're doing.

Yeah.

Because it's legitimately crazy.

Some of these people,

I don't know.

Because I follow a bunch of people.

Some people are on, you know,

politics, obviously.

You know, it's a big part of my interest.

But, you know, I also follow a bunch of sports people and people who, you know, the crypto stuff.

I have a bunch of different interests.

I mean, your best follow, I believe, is

Jeffy JFR on X is probably your best.

Oh, I don't think I follow Axe.

I believe JFR.

I'm pretty sure I muted that account.

But if you have a couple, I have a couple of these people who are, I don't know, I'm following them for some other reason.

And then they occasionally tweet about politics and you realize how insanely left they are on politics.

And

it is the conspiracy theories that are out there.

It is incredible.

I mean,

look, conspiracy theories affect every aspect of life, politics, right, left, and beyond, right?

Like outside of politics.

You know, you've always been.

Jeffy's always.

Absolutely.

It's true.

You've always been a guy.

I think of you when I think of the fun time of conspiracy theories.

When conspiracy theories were fun, when it was just like people throwing stuff out there

and you'd have this theory about something that happened, and it was just like an enjoyable conversation.

Deep down, you knew it wasn't real.

Yeah, you either knew it wasn't real or you knew there was a good chance it wasn't real.

But it was just kind of fun to entertain as a thought experiment, right?

We've now crossed the line where these conspiracy theories are getting, as I mentioned,

bullets fired at the President of the United States

relatively routinely.

I mean, we go,

this is a true thing.

This is a thing that's happening on this show.

I want to give you a behind-the-scenes picture of what is happening on the Glenn Beck program right now.

This is an actual conversation that has happened behind the scenes as we go through the news of the day and see multiple people being arrested for trying to kill the President of the United United States.

And then we get on the air and don't even talk about it because it's so routine at this point.

These aren't even breaking through.

Absolutely true.

We had a day, I think it was, I don't know, two weeks ago, where two separate people

were arrested for trying to kill the President of the United States, and it barely was a blip.

Because this stuff is happening all the time.

And one thing you'll find is they parrot all of the same conspiracy theories you hear on MSNBC every day.

Now, I remember when

we were on Fox News, this happened all the time.

If a person who would have a 5 million page manifesto also at one point mentioned low taxes,

we would be, oh, Glenn Peck is inspiring assassins.

Yes.

Right?

That's real.

That is a real thing.

That was all the time.

Everyone was happy to make that jump.

These people will write manifestos that will constantly quote things because here when you have this, here's the thing, Jeffy.

Language should reflect reality.

And when your language is that the president of the United States is Hitler, when your language is that the President of the United States is trying to imprison or murder every trans person,

again, quote unquote, he's denying their existence.

Disappearing people from the streets.

Yeah, these ICE rallies

raids are just taking innocent civilians and just tossing them into prisons all over the world when that is your narrative on a day-to-day basis.

Well, a lot of people believe that.

And a lot of people wind up saying, well, what's the next logical step?

If Donald Trump is imprisoning and murdering all trans people, what should I do?

Now, most people just realize this is nonsense, right?

Most people, even people on the left, will say all right like i i agree on the trans thing but like they're not actually doing that this is an insane uh thing to believe and i'm not going to take action however there are some people who do yeah and a guy hiding out in the in the bushes at donald trump's golf course believed every word you bet believed every word and thought it was real and these other people that got arrested uh for uh they were working you know they had their chances to uh assassinate the president they absolutely believed every every word.

Every word.

Every word of it.

That's why they were arrested.

That's why they were arrested.

The person, I mean, and you know, the person who was in the bushes at the golf course, a couple of these people from last week, they sound like they're MSNBC hosts.

Oh, yeah.

Sound like they could get a show right after Jen Saki on the network.

What a good time slot that is.

But

they really do suffer.

I mean, Trump derangement syndrome, I believe that is a real

diagnosis versus no.

You know, it used to be that real.

It's real.

Well, it used to be a joke to describe, to summarize how people reacted to Donald Trump.

You know, like I was listening to, you know, and I do these things so you don't have to, okay?

I was listening to the

New York Times Daily podcast, which is like the number one podcast in America.

And

today they were talking about all of the moves Donald Trump has been making on the economy.

Now, some of which I am proudly out of step with.

Let's put it that way.

Some of them I don't love.

I don't love that we're taking control of the percentages of companies.

It's just not my back.

I get that it might be yours now.

I don't know.

But what I found to be more fascinating than that discussion was

the New York Times discovering capitalism all of a sudden.

We're all for it all of a sudden.

I mean, things were said.

Let me give you an example of something that was said on this podcast.

You know, one of the reasons why America's economy has been so dynamic over the years and why it's outperformed places like Europe and China is because it didn't do things like this, where places like France and China, they would take

pieces of

these companies and influence them.

That was one of the things that weakened them.

And we were achieving all these incredible things because we didn't do those things.

And now Donald Trump wants to do them.

Forget that for just a moment.

just set aside how you feel about how Donald Trump what Donald Trump is doing here and just embrace how insane it is that the second Trump does a everyone in the media has to be against A and they are and they are they dutifully take up the other side of whatever he does they sure do and it's fascinating to watch it happen I think honestly if he came out in favor or of trans people, they'd come out against it.

I think they'd just be like, well, how can he embrace this?

This is a man who's saying it's a woman.

Obviously, it's still a man.

Yeah, they wouldn't believe him.

I don't think they would just go the other way.

Yeah, you're right.

They probably just wouldn't believe it.

But I think if he had a heartfelt belief, and believe at the beginning of this, if you remember, Donald Trump's first reaction to the trans early controversies was to say, ah, just let them go into the bathrooms.

I mean, that's who he was.

He's a New Yorker.

His feeling on social issues.

Who cares?

He's just not, it's not, he's not all that passionate about that stuff.

He really does have passion about the economy and the border and many things like that.

You know, the social stuff has just never been central to who he is as a president.

I think everybody knows that.

Because he legitimately, you're right, I don't think he cares.

At least he didn't at the beginning.

And so that was his first reaction: ah, just let them go to the bathroom wherever they want to.

They're not hurting anybody.

That was his initial reaction.

And the social conservatives kind of stepped up and said, well, actually, we do think this is a problem.

Here's why.

And he's reacted to that over the years.

But I think if he pushed that really, really hard, I think there's a chance the media would be on the opposite side of it just because he's on that side.

And that is TDS, right?

Yes, I think though it has arisen beyond the

former usage of it, where when we first started, it was just a way to summarize the way MSNBC would react to him because they would react negatively no matter what he did, even if at times he would agree with them,

they would just say he was evil anyway.

I really do think it's a legitimate psychotic disorder.

I do too.

I've seen it.

I mean, I see it.

So it has to.

Do you know people who are like this?

Do you have like family members and friends

that react this way?

I had to deal with one not long ago.

Really?

And

how'd that go?

We're not talking anymore.

I'm not doing this with you.

Okay.

I'm not doing this with you because

I can't.

I mean,

you're in my home.

You don't have to give me me details.

Oh, in your home.

Okay,

you're with my nephew.

I like you.

You've known my nephew forever.

Just stop talking.

Okay.

Just stop talking.

You don't know what you're talking about.

You don't know what you're talking about.

So, because I think that's the adult way to handle a situation like that.

Because you start off and you have a situation where someone who just viscerally disagrees with you and doesn't know what they're talking about.

You might engage at first.

You might try to convince them at first.

You go down that road.

When that dries up, the next step is where you are which is like look let's just not talk about it well you're not going to convince me i'm not going to convince you let's not blow up our entire relationship look at the times yeah isn't it time for you to leave yeah get out of my house right

and then there's you go farther than that at some point it becomes i can't even interact with you because you're not respecting my boundaries my boundaries are

I love you as a person, but I don't, we can't go down this road because

yeah, let's just not talk about it.

I'm not going to talk about it.

If you get beyond that and they won't respect that boundary that you're putting up, then they just aren't respecting you as a person.

Right.

Right.

They are, they have TDS too seriously to actually interact with.

And at some point, you just have to be like, look,

I'm happy to talk with you.

I'm happy to hang out with you.

I'm happy to have a conversation with you.

But if you can't be somewhat sane

because when they see you, they see Trump.

And that's the derangement.

Yeah.

I mean, Glenn has been dealing with this.

Glenn has had, you know, he's talked about this on the air where he just, you know, you get to a point where it's not about Trump anymore.

It's about them respecting you as an individual, as your relative, as your friend.

If you can't do those basic things,

what else is there?

You're just treating me like trash.

And I'm just this punching bag that I don't, I'm going to defend what I believe, but like, I am willing.

I have friends who are on the left.

I have friends who are liberal.

Like, you just, I don't,

I will

politely try to point out when they make mistakes and errors.

I will politely.

You know, this isn't true.

Let's shut up.

Yeah, come on.

Come on.

Yeah, you know that's not true.

I will politely say, you know, look, this is wrong, and

here's why I believe this.

But I'm not going to berate them and say they're bad people.

I'm not going to call them the names that they call us.

I don't want to do that.

I have no interest in that.

That's not the person I want to be.

It makes me feel bad about myself.

You ever get into a Twitter conversation with somebody and you're like, gosh, I don't even like the person I am right now.

I'm so pissed off about this.

It brings out the worst in all of us, right?

And there's a lot of people on the TDS left that want to make social media into real life.

They want to bring that into the IRL.

And I don't want anything to do with that.

If that's you, get out.

Get out of my house.

Get out of my life.

Okay.

I mean, yeah, absolutely.

And I'm just suggesting that to you.

Please get out.

Get out of my life.

That's just separate from the conversation.

I just want you to get out, Jeffy.

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We didn't even get to the

whole point of this was to lead up to a Rosie O'Donnell clip.

And I didn't even get to it.

No, she's not living in the United States any longer.

She's gone.

She decided I hate Trump so much, I'm leaving the country.

And we all cheered.

Yeah, and unfortunately, that country still has internet.

I know.

That's one thing I want.

One thing I'm begging Ireland is to ban the internet now that she's there.

We'll get into Rosie O'Donnell and her nonsense here in just a moment.

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I know you've been looking for her analysis.

She's made a bit of a boo-boo.

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We'll see if you could detect it.

It was

so hard to detect, but apparently she's in Ireland and she wants to give you her opinions still for whatever reason.

We'll get into those coming up.

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She's making a difference.

Oh, she sure is.

Can you explain the

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I cannot.

I don't understand what's happening.

There was a lot of fun on the internet over the weekend

about that haircut.

Someone said my favorite one was, it looks like she was drawn by Charles Schultz.

Yeah, there's that.

She looks like she's right out of the peanuts cartoon.

There's the out-of-shape He-Man.

There were a couple others too.

There were a couple others that she looks like.

There's one, and there's one was mud montage of saying, which one is Greta with all the different haircuts similar to hers.

So maybe she's just, you know, she's trying to look like someone else.

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You know, sometimes you have to admit you're surrounded by intellectual giants.

People who can think at a different level than you and I.

People who can see things that we cannot.

No, no, I'm not talking about you, Jeffy.

I'm talking about Rosie O'Donnell

and her incredible analysis of the Minneapolis shooting.

We'll get into that here in just a minute.

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Okay.

It's not as easy to be right if you're Rosie O'Donnell.

Life is hard.

That's for sure.

Things are difficult.

You're so wrong and so disconnected with your society.

You've probably moved out of the the country by now.

That's what Rosie has done.

And she has been for so long.

And still, she still thinks that moving out of the country was...

And she has to make, she absolutely, every time she posts one of her intellectual videos,

she has to remind us

why I'm still in Ireland, how wonderful it is here.

Yeah, she really wants you to hate your country.

That's step number one.

She likes Ireland.

And by the way, this is one thing we can agree on.

We like her being in Ireland.

Please.

I'm fine with it.

Yeah, I don't care.

It's okay.

Just stay.

It's great there.

You're enjoying it there.

I'm sure the people around you love you.

So stay there forever.

That's a great outcome for the both of us.

But she was commenting on this Minneapolis shooting right away.

And this is a fascinating part of this.

We're going to stop and start this as we go through the audio.

But

one of the things that's fascinating about this is just the need.

What a strange world we're in.

That you have a need, if you're Rosie O'Donnell to comment on the Minneapolis shooting, you live in Ireland.

You have no expertise in this area.

You don't know anything about the topic.

Why bother posting a video on it?

You don't have to.

And on top of that, you know none of the facts about the case at all.

Right.

At all.

And many of us at the time that she posted this didn't.

So it was just a matter of her wanting to speak up about a shooting in a country she no longer lives in.

It's so strange.

Bizarre.

And here's something.

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You don't have to post.

You don't.

You think, I got to post something.

No, you don't.

This is something that I have learned over the years many times.

I've tried to advise Glenn on, not always successfully, many times.

You don't have to post on every single thing.

You don't have to say something about everything.

No one needs to know what you think about everything.

Absolutely.

I mean, that comes from, basically, that comes from the chewing the fat rule.

Okay.

I love the man on the street interviews, the newscasts or whatever.

I love them.

But just because someone puts a microphone in front of you doesn't mean you have to speak.

That's a great rule.

A great lesson to learn.

People don't.

I'm happy that many people don't follow that lesson.

Because it gives you material.

You don't have to.

Right.

You don't have to.

By the way, Chew and the Fat is the podcast, Jeffy knows.

That's correct.

So you should subscribe to it, of course, wherever you get your podcasts.

That's just a rule.

That's just a rule from the show.

It's a great rule, though.

It's a great rule.

And the problem is, now we all have these phones, and you can do fun things like go on Price Picks, or you can speak into it, and it's got microphones, and it'll record you.

Video capability, all of it.

And you can post it all over the internet.

And you might say, well, hey,

Stu and Jeffy, you stupid fatheads, you're currently running your mouth about all sorts of issues.

And that is true.

We get paid for this.

I know it's hard to believe.

And I don't understand it either.

This ain't much.

Well, you know, what you're worth, I think, quite clearly.

You have the WNBA need to be paid what we're worth.

Okay, that's what I'm saying.

That's what we're owed.

You know, part of this is, you know, you do this for a living.

It's part of what you do.

And there's no problem, obviously, expressing yourself.

What you do when you go on the internet and you post a video, if let's say you're working, you're a mechanic, you're an accountant, whatever you happen to be.

And what you post, when you post your thoughts on the internet, it is quite obviously more important than what we do on a day-to-day basis.

And I mean that sincerely.

Like, the only reason the stuff that has happened in this country has changed is because normal people have gotten involved.

It's one thing for us to run our mouths as employees of

Blaze Media and tell you all the things that we think are important.

And that's all great.

It's part of the package.

But much more important part of that package is that everyday person who doesn't do this for a living speaking up about what they believe in, that is really important.

It's less important when you're Rosie O'Donnell.

Because I think the thing is, if you invest your time

to listen to a program like this, you know, we're on 15 hours a week.

Studios America is on another four or five hours a week.

Jeff, Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher is on somewhere between 15 minutes and eight hours a week.

I don't know, somewhere in there.

If you're spending all that time to listen to podcasts, to read these stories, to look at boring government spreadsheets and try to figure out what the heck is going on with our world, you've done work to qualify yourself to comment.

Sure.

I say this all the time.

Don't go out and vote.

Learn, then vote.

The order is important.

That is an order.

You can't do them in reverse order.

That's what Rosie O'Donnell should do.

She's like, okay, well, I'm going to vote.

And maybe in her case, she's not even doing that anymore.

I don't know.

Maybe in Ireland, she's not even participating in that process.

But whatever.

Your vote is important, but it shouldn't be some ill-informed glob.

If that's what you have, then keep it at home.

If you have it, and by the way, some people have called Rosie O'Donnell an ill-informed glob.

One of them may have been the president of the United States.

Exactly.

Only Rosie O'Donnell.

That's the only person I've had.

Only Rosie O'Donnell.

So

without further ado, that's a bunch of setups.

To tell you that Rosie O'Donnell's dumb, here she is saying something dumb.

Well, hey, everybody, it's Thursday old day, as my Nana would say.

And

what can I tell you?

I'm in Dublin, Ireland.

Okay.

Having a great life.

You look like it.

That's good.

You look like you're having a great life.

Enjoying the people of Dublin, Ireland, and the culture and the sense of community.

And so about the Minnesota shooting,

please.

Why would you?

Which brought me right back to Columbine in 1999.

Okay, stop for a second.

That is, that's the transition I'm thinking about right there.

That's what I'm trying to get into at the beginning.

I'm having a great life.

Now, she does not look like she's having a great life.

She looks miserable.

She looks miserable.

She's busy picking cat hairs off her sweater.

I can't take it.

Right.

That's what she's doing.

She looks unhappy.

However, I will say this, Jeffy, if you happen to be happy and you happen to claim you're happy and you happen to move to another country and you're happy about that and you're interacting with the people in Dublin who I'm sure are so excited you're there.

Man.

If that's you, why do you feel the need to comment on the Minneapolis shooting?

Just stop yourself.

Have some self-restraint.

I just don't understand why you don't need to talk about every little thing that happens in the world.

Now, look, the Minneapolis situation is a serious situation, but

your input here is not needed.

No, you're completely

out of the picture.

There's no need for you to comment at all.

No, and you might say, well, Stu, I want to hear what she's going to say.

And

you might say that her input is needed.

She's about to prove you wrong.

Listen.

1999, when

I just could not get it through my head that students in America were shooting each other in schools.

And this was a church inside a Catholic school.

And what do you know was a white guy, Republican,

MAGA person.

A MAGA person?

What do you know?

What do you know?

What do you know?

What do you know?

Oh, yeah.

White supremacist.

A white supremist.

Not a white supremacist, but a white supremacist.

Nothing has happened since Columbine.

Nothing has happened.

Nothing.

The Million Mom March?

Nothing.

Didn't matter.

Yeah, that didn't do much of anything.

She had very large hands.

Is that just a camera trick or is that

hands the size of Frankenstein's hands?

What's going on there?

I think it may be a camera trick.

Look at that.

Her head is larger than her entire skull.

It might be something to do with Ireland.

Maybe when you go there, your hands grow.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

It's possible.

We don't know what kind of fruits and vegetables she's eating.

Maybe there's an additive in there.

Maybe she doesn't have enough additives in her life now that she's living in the world.

People in Dublin are giving her some kind of weird food that makes your hands grow.

I don't know.

Now, you might hear Rosie's commentary there and think to yourself, but wait, we know and knew almost immediately this was not a Republican MAGA person.

In fact,

now I will say there was a media report that did say.

Trump's name was written on the guns.

Yes.

True.

And that has has the media said it.

That part is true.

Although they left out a minor detail is the word kill was in front of it.

So that's.

But this, I think this was posted before we even knew that.

Before we even knew that.

Yeah.

Another lesson here, Jeffy.

You might think, well, I have to comment on that.

And I would say you're wrong.

You don't.

But if you still don't believe me, what you could do in a situation such as this is wait until you have some facts about the situation.

Oh.

Before you post.

Before you post.

Learn, then post.

The order is important.

Okay.

Okay.

Now, you might,

we can give you a good example of this, if you will, Jeffy.

As Jeffy mentioned, this shooting occurred while we were on the air doing a live radio show to, you know, hundreds and hundreds of affiliates, okay?

All across the country.

Millions of people were listening to us react to the shooting in real time.

What we did was give you the facts of the situation.

That one at the time.

That was not a lot.

In fact, to the the point of we knew it was a huge story, but we had to stop ourselves from talking about it because if we continued to talk about the story, we would

invariably get into speculation about things we didn't know yet.

Right.

Right?

We didn't want to just keep repeating the same three or four things we knew.

We'd be wrong.

Of course, because when you're just guessing about a news story,

you're going to be wrong a lot.

That's the way that works.

It's funny.

Someone has said, learn and then post, speak, or vote, right?

I mean, that's the order is important.

So there's no need to post at all, but if you feel like you must post, maybe wait.

You know,

there's that old thing in news broadcasting of you don't need to be first, you need to be right.

And so many places have completely abandoned that idea.

Yeah, social media, that's long gone.

Long gone.

Everyone just wants to be first.

Post anything, and then maybe your post will be the one that goes viral.

Maybe everyone everyone will give you all the likes.

If that's your motivation built on the back

of a couple of dead children at school,

maybe your motivation is incorrect.

That's very possible.

Maybe you're the one doing life wrong at that point.

All right, so she went through this whole thing.

People did, of course, immediately recognize her out and call her out and say, hey, you were totally wrong.

Your guesstimate of a MAGA person was wrong.

But apparently,

she went away.

She was out partying with the Dublin people, making her hands grow bigger, and didn't pay attention to the internet.

She didn't see the internet for a couple of days?

That's what she says.

That's what she says.

That's what she tells us here.

Well, let's see.

She does again post to tell us.

By the way, yeah.

So here's her post.

This is a week later now.

This is one you probably should post.

Here is Rosie O'Donnell with an update on her initial post.

Hi, everybody.

It's Rosie O'Donnell, star of the Flintstones.

Okay,

stop for a second.

All right.

That is awesome.

First of all, I'll give her credit.

That's awesome.

That's a funny line.

Is it, though?

It is kind of a funny line.

Star of the Flintstones.

What does that mean?

Oh, except Rosie.

Right.

First of all, I don't even know that she was the star of the Flintstones.

She was in the Flintstones.

Let's be clear.

She was in it.

A movie that bombed and no one remembers.

And that's why it's funny, by the way, right?

It's funny because it was nothing.

If that's what you're known for, for, you're known for basically nothing.

And that's another point to be made here.

There's no reason to even know what Rosie O'Donnell's opinion is on anything.

She's Rosie O'Donnell.

Who cares what her opinion is on anything?

It doesn't make any difference to anyone whether she feels anyway about anything.

Even the people in Dublin don't care what she thinks, let alone us.

Right.

She certainly doesn't care what we think.

She moved away.

Right.

And this is a funny, like, it is a funny line for her to mention that.

It is a sort of self-deprecating joke, right?

Who am I?

I'm the star of the Flintstones, but it's also a way for her to escape responsibility for her previous post.

Why are you listening to me?

I'm nothing.

I'm just the star of the Flintstones.

I'm just some lady, crazy lady on the internet saying things.

It's like it's the Jon Stewart thing where

he's taken seriously as a serious commentator until he says something that's a blatant lie.

Then he's just a comedian.

Right.

Boy, isn't that the truth?

All right.

Let's get to more of this here in a second.

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All right, Rosie O'Donnell still blabbing.

She's the star of the Flintstones.

Here is her update on her initial post.

Hi, everybody.

It's Rosie O'Donnell.

Hi, Rosie.

The star of the Flintstones.

Listen,

I have a cold sore.

I know.

Sexy.

Happens.

You get run down, you know.

Anyway,

I know a lot of you were very upset about the video I made before I went away for a few days.

I didn't go online and haven't seen them till today.

But you are right.

I did not do my due diligence before I made that emotional statement.

And I said things about the shooter that were incorrect.

I assumed, like most shooters, they followed

a standard MO and had standard

feelings of

what?

You know,

NRA loving kind of.

Oh, NRA loving.

Anyway,

the truth is, I messed up, and when you mess up, you fess up.

I'm sorry.

This is my apology video, and I hope it's enough.

It's not really, Rosie, because you didn't say exactly what the deal was.

I mean, I think it's good that she apologized.

I just don't know why she didn't apologize for the Flintstones.

At no point in the video does she mention how terrible that movie was.

No, she doesn't.

And that she calls herself the star of it.

Which, again, I don't think she was the star of the movie.

She was in the movie.

She was not the star of the movie.

You know, look.

Better than the alternative, right?

Like, better than just posting the video and never addressing it.

I mean, the real alternative is don't post at all.

That's the best one.

The second best one is after you screw up actually admitting it.

And I give her, you know, a little bit of credit for that.

Although she's totally, again, she needs to go back to the drawing board and figure out because these aren't, most shooters are not this way.

They're not all white MAGA people.

It's not true.

No, they are not.

I mean, you can look at all sorts of different measures of this.

I mean, the most common mass shooter is not political.

The most common mass shooter is not political.

Some of them are.

Most of them are not.

Most of them have personal beefs with people, with institutions.

Most of them are just insane.

You know, that stuff does occur.

But one indication of insanity is not really being able to recognize reality.

And there's one thing I was thinking about today, which is language should reflect reality.

There you go.

Just a thought.

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It's the Glenn Beck program.

Stu and Jeffy in for Glenn.

He's on vacation this week.

We were talking about the Minneapolis shooting and the media reaction and Rosie O'Donnell's reaction to it.

And I think one of the things that we always

kind of land on here is: you know, what do you do about situations like this?

What do you do about mass shootings?

How do you stop them?

And there's really only one answer from

the media, which is just ban all guns.

We need to ban guns.

It's a common sense gun reform.

Now, that's obviously nonsense.

That's not what they're actually suggesting.

They're suggesting.

Oh, we need to ban guns.

I mean, it's the only way to.

We were talking about this a little bit off the air.

You're going to make me do this again, but we were talking.

Jeffy's been talking to me with Australia.

Just saying that Australia did it right.

You know that they didn't do it right.

And nothing happened.

Nothing happened.

I know what I read, Stu, and I read that there were mass shootings prior to the ban, and there were zero mass shootings after the ban.

Fascinating.

Fascinating.

First of all, no one believes you read.

Okay.

No one believes you read.

The CI told me.

One of the things, so

to go through this quickly, we went through this a little bit on the show, I don't know, a week or two ago.

But if you don't know,

a lot of people hear this Australia argument.

And it's important to understand that none of the proposals coming from the left actually are even proposing the Australia changes because they are terrified of admitting this is what they want to do.

Australia, you know, gets

plenty of things right.

You know, kangaroos,

crocodile dundee.

The bread from Outback Steakhouse is really good.

Yeah, it is.

That's pretty much, I think that is Australia.

Bloom and onion.

Bloom and onion.

Delicious.

Delicious.

There's a lot of things they do, fine.

But when it comes to gun control, did they get this right?

First of all, what do they do?

Number one,

they prohibited semi-automatic and automatic assault rifles.

Now, you have heard that talked about.

Yes.

Right.

Usually what that is, is you would, the proposals in the United States are you would ban them.

Which we tried, by the way, here in the United States, did not do anything.

But they would ban the new purchase of them.

So the ones that exist already exist.

They're not talking about coming to your house and taking them because they're embarrassed to say that because they know you will not react well to it.

Right.

Right.

But they act as if that's going to make a big difference.

The measure prohibited automatic and semi-automatic

assault rifles, made it tougher to get a license, tightened ownership rules, made people, listen to this one, Jeffy, made people demonstrate to the government a, quote, genuine need for their guns.

Can you imagine this scenario?

Also take a firearm safety course and launch a gun buyback program.

That's the part that most people focus on.

So you would make people so they could not buy new assault weapons, quote-unquote assault weapons, and they would buy back a bunch of them.

So

did this work?

A 2008 study from University of Melbourne concluded that, quote, there is little evidence to suggest that the Australian mandatory gun buyback program had any significant effects on firearm homicides.

Another study concluded, quote, the gun buyback and restrictive legislative changes had no influence on firearm homicide in Australia.

One of the reasons for this is because there weren't a lot of homicides in Australia anyway, and what homicides were there were already falling in advance of these changes.

So the trends that existed before they made these legislative change did continue.

They did continued, yeah.

But it was not because of this.

But we do know that there were, I mean, I'm just going by what the Journal of the American Medical Medical Association said, that in the 18 years before the laws were passed, there were 13 mass shootings, none afterward.

Yeah, what do you got to say to that, Stu?

It's an interesting

thought as to how,

like, what you're trying to stop.

Are you trying to stop mass murder?

like we saw?

Yeah.

And again, this is, thankfully only two people were killed.

It's actually legitimately a miracle and two kids died in that incident.

And that's a terrible, terrible situation, obviously, for those families.

A bunch of other people were injured, some seriously.

The fact that it was only two people in that particular circumstance is amazing.

But is your goal to stop that incident, right, where a gunman comes in and shoots a bunch of people in a church, or is it your goal to stop murders?

Right.

Is your goal to stop a certain type of murder,

a marquee event that gets all the headlines that, by the way, you shouldn't give them?

Or is it just stop murder?

Like, for example, Jeffy,

I went to high school in the 90s, and when you go back and you look at the numbers, I was far more likely to die in a school shooting in the 90s than I am today.

How did you survive?

It's not even close.

I mean, the numbers are, it's not even close.

It's multiple times as likely

as I am today.

In fact, when I first heard that statistic, I was shocked by it.

I was, I mean, even as someone who's skeptical of most things, I was shocked by that.

I did not know that.

The reason was the way violence happened at schools back in the 90s was a bunch of random people shooting random people at random schools, not

one person coming in and shooting 20 people at one school.

And like, I don't know, do you feel better about it?

Do we all feel better about it that it wasn't just a couple people in a school in one place in 20 places rather than 10 people in one place?

Like, neither one is something that I want.

Right.

But the overall rate coming down is something that you'd think would be important.

And we've added hundreds of millions of guns to our society in that period.

We have.

And if it were the guns, we would know it.

Right.

If that was the problem, we would already know that that's the problem.

And they all say this, right?

They all say, oh, that's the problem.

It's the guns.

Well, the Australia thing, to get back to it, they bought back between 20 and 35% of the country's firearms.

Which, if you map that onto our country, you've got about 400 million guns in this country.

Let's say the number is about a third,

or a quarter, let's say.

So that's 100 million guns you'd be buying back.

First of all, very expensive program.

A lot of money to buy 100 million guns.

Number two, if you succeed with this, can you imagine what people would do?

I don't even want to talk about what people would do because it would not be pretty.

But if you buy back 100 million guns somehow and get 100 million guns, what are you left with?

I'll give you a hint.

It's called 300 million guns.

This is a gun culture.

This is not a country.

Australia only had a couple million guns across the entire country.

So buying, they bought 650,000 to a million of them.

You know,

maybe that made a dent in the gun numbers.

It didn't seem to make a dent in the murder rates, but it did make a dent, you know, in the gun numbers.

People who had guns, I would guess, could make their case of why they needed them.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, well, maybe.

I mean, it depends on how the government...

This is the government being in control of your rights, right?

Our country is set up that rights come from God, to the people, and we lend them to the government.

In Australia, that's not the way that they look at it.

They look at it as the government gives you the rights.

So if the government decides, like they do in New York City, well, do you really need that permit?

Do you?

I don't know if you really need it.

Here, let me make it a 12-step process that is almost impossible.

It's in one of Glenn's books, actually.

In

Control, maybe?

The gun.

It's in one of the books.

I can't remember.

It might be Control, which was the gun control book, or it might be one of the other ones that just covered gun control.

I can't remember, but it has an entire

flowchart of how to get a gun in New York City.

And it's completely ridiculous.

It's impossible.

I know someone who went through the process, and you know, it took them years.

This is a person with no criminal record, upstanding member of society, no chance that they're going to, you know, be, you know, like some, you know, again, you never know with these things, of course, but like no risk over any other person.

In fact, you'd say someone very safe.

There's no evidence that this person is going to be a lunatic.

Yes.

And you'll be shocked to hear they got the permit eventually and have not committed any murders with it somehow.

Amazing.

Because the solution to taking away murder is not to take away innocent people's firearms.

That's not going to help you.

It's not going to help you.

But if you'd like to get rid of guns, there is a path to it.

And reason.com put together a really handy-dandy list for you to do this.

It's a five-step process.

And if you are legitimately interested in how to do that here, like let's say you don't agree with us on the Second Amendment and you're thinking to yourself, well, I would like to get rid of these guns.

It's too big of a problem.

We see other places.

They don't have these big gun problems.

We need to get rid of guns.

Reason put together a handy five-step process for you to do that.

Nice.

So it's like, it only takes like two minutes here, Jeffy.

So we can learn, all learn together

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That's not at all what they did, but whatever.

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The only thing left to do is enforce the law.

Guns don't just disappear because you passed a law.

You need to confiscate over 350 million guns scattered among over 330 million Americans.

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But that is how you get a gun for the America.

Okay, that's it.

That's it.

Easy step.

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I thought there was going to be more.

That's not bad.

That's not bad at all.

That should be quite easy.

Good luck with that, by the way.

And at the end of it, of course, it's true.

Gun violence is not going to go down in that process.

All right, 888727 BECK is our phone number.

We've got more coming up here on the Glenn Back program.

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We're talking, we've been dealing with a bunch of morons throughout the day here and we've got another one one of my honesty this is your girl my favorite yeah this is your girl

I love her I have to admit I'm a big fan I think of her I think of you thank you

good that's what I want people to think Jasmine Crockett she is of course

for the time being a representative in Texas here she is blabbing about something

as many of you as possible to flood our our state like when it's election time I want them to be so mad that they did all of this because we have people coming from the entire country to texas to make sure that this little scheme that they tried to pull where they were just gonna steal and diminish the voices of black and brown people i want us to be so loud that they actually go running and trying to figure out what's that little racist town they all hiding in and in some what is in missouri arkansas arkansas i think they all ran to arkansas that's where they need to run off to that's how I want them to feel after this election.

So no matter what happens, I need y'all to stay in this fight because literally

the war is just starting.

It's interesting.

Whenever someone on the right uses terminology like that, we're accused of actually wanting war.

I'm confused.

Who ran away in Texas?

I don't know.

I thought it was the Democrats who ran away in Texas, interestingly.

Also, the other part of that is a little weird.

Is she inviting people from out of state to vote in Texas alone?

It sounds like it.

It sounds like it.

Seemed like that's what she was doing.

Yeah.

And she's

I guess she's a little upset over the redistricting, the redistricting of her

constituents.

This is one of those things.

Democrats should not really want this process to go all out because Republicans have a lot more room to grow when it comes to redistricting in red states as opposed to what you can do in blue states.

Yeah.

Because the blue states have already done it in most cases.

So you got that.

California is an example of this.

Gavin Newsom also in the news.

Here's Gavin.

In L.A., do you think ICE is not going to show up around voting and polling booths to chill participation?

You know that.

The National Guard, you know that.

Everybody knows what's at stake.

So we have to put a stake in the ground and do things differently.

Now, why exactly would ICE be able to intimidate anyone in the voting line?

in California?

How exactly would that work?

Because Because what they do is they take people who are illegal immigrants and remove them from the country.

That's the thing you're complaining about all the time.

Most people, if you're in line to vote,

how would you be intimidated?

You're a citizen if you're in line to vote, right?

Supposed to be.

Seems like an admission there, almost like he knows that people who are not citizens are voting in his state.

Huh.

That's what it seemed like to me.

Weird.

But he's, you know, this is Gavin Newsom.

He's running for president.

He wants to be in your hearts so he can have more and more power.

What a dunce he is.

He serious.

Nothing like my girl, Jasmine Crockett, who, by the way, should be the 2028 nominee for the Democrats.

100%.

Please, Jasmine Crockett, for Democratic nomination.

Not the presidency, but just the nomination.

This is Glenn Beck.