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I was flipping through the news and a story just broke that I was not aware of.

It involves sports, but...

And it's being promoted as this big sports story, which it is.

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It has to do a lot with the stuff that we talk about on a day-to-day basis.

Corruption, perhaps?

Massive corruption.

Corruption I was not aware of.

And it does lead into sports, which is, I guess,

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Sports related, but also very scandal-related, very corruption-related, ESG-related.

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there's been a problem with the recruitment of Kawhi Leonard in the NBA.

Yes, and this is how...

The NBA basketball player, if you're not aware of him.

Right.

This is how it's kind of being promoted as a big story today, which it is a big story if you care about sports, but looking at the details of it, it's the smallest part of the story.

This is a fascinating story for our purposes here, Pat.

The story comes from Pablo Torre finds out.

Do you know this podcast?

I do not.

I think he was at ESPN for a while.

He's been a podcaster.

I've seen bits and pieces of his news coverage.

He seems to be like a guy who just dives deep into

various sports-related stories.

And I've seen a couple of them over the years.

He is with the Athletic now, and he reports this, and it is being promoted as this big story about Kawhi Leonard.

Basically, what is being alleged is that Kawhi Leonard, who's a big-star basketball player, he's in 2019, wins the NBA championship with the Toronto Raptors and becomes a free agent.

Everybody in the league wants to sign this guy.

He's the best player in the league at the time and is the most sought-after free agent.

Everyone's making offers, everyone's doing everything that they can,

And he winds up signing with the Los Angeles Clippers,

which is surprising.

You know, Clippers don't usually land the biggest free agents, but

they wind up signing Kawhi Leonard, and they trade for Paul George, another big star from Oklahoma City.

In that trade,

the MVP of the league, Shea Gilgis Alexander, goes to the Oklahoma City Thunder.

So this is a massive trade in the league history.

It kind of changes the power balance of the entire league.

The Oklahoma City Thunder, of course, go to win the championship this past year.

Again, that's not what's important to us, but just to set up why this is a big deal.

In that

free agent

courtship by a bunch of these teams, there is a whisper, a whisper of

impropriety.

A secret payment.

A secret payment was the allegment,

allegation.

thank you.

They were talking about this as a situation where

they were alleging that he got this payment sort of under the table.

Why else would he go to the Clippers?

And there was a family member involved and a bunch of shadiness.

Nothing ever shown to be

proven.

So

long story short.

As they're going through this story, it leads back to a company called Aspiration.

Are you familiar with this company, Aspiration?

I'm not.

No.

So, Aspiration is a company built by two

big Democratic officials.

Two guys that I can't, the names are familiar.

One was

the head of, I think, the Arizona Democratic Party at one point.

Another guy, they're both from Harvard.

You know, one of them had run for Congress.

They were well known in Democratic circles and wound up starting this, what basically turned out to be a green bank, okay, called Aspiration.

They got

basically every celebrity you'd recognize as an annoying

green promoting leftist to talk about this company.

It was a massive deal, multi-billion dollar company this thing

became.

And they had, you know, Robert Downey Jr.

doing the commercials, Leonardo DiCaprio.

The list of celebrities is, they're all A-listers.

So they go through this whole process and their business was interesting.

Because let's say you go and you decide to start a styrofoam burning and

oil consuming conglomerate of your own, the Pat Gray Styrofoam and Oil conglomerate.

How did you find out about that?

Oh, is that what you thought?

You actually have.

That's what I just started.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Very recently.

The styrofoam burning conglomerate.

A company that just exists to burn styrofoam.

Yes.

That's a shocking.

And oil.

And oil.

Oh, yeah.

The oil.

Styrofoam and oil.

Yes, okay.

So you started this company, Pat.

Yeah.

And I know your work as a styrofoam burner is very important to you,

as well as oil.

I don't want to leave that out.

Right.

But let's just say someone else might feel bad about the damage they're doing to the environment.

They want to be known as green.

This is the ESG era.

It's 2021, 2022 in there.

You know, well, I mean, it had existed before that, but you know that era.

Everyone's trying to be ESG friendly.

They want to be known as a green company.

So how do you do such a thing?

You know, major sports franchises were working with this quote-unquote green bank that would say, hey, we just built this massive stadium.

We need to offset the carbon.

Right.

First of all, no, you don't.

Secondly, the way they would do that is they would, of course, plant trees.

So you would go and you would pay this company a bunch of money to get their certification that you were ESG friendly, and they would plant trees.

Now, of course, they wouldn't actually plant trees.

They would, quote unquote, broker trees to be

so stupid.

So they don't even actually

do the carbon offset thing?

No, they don't do it.

Does anybody do it?

They broker outside firms firms to do it.

I don't know if it was, I'm sure it was done sometimes.

It's probably not done other than plants.

Now, according to the podcast, they were charging

five to ten times the amount that it costs.

I love this stuff.

Five to ten times the amount it costs to plant a tree, which is apparently about 10 to 20 cents a pop.

You want to plant a tree?

10 to 20 cents.

Now, I could do it cheaper than that, but okay, 10 to 20 cents.

All right.

That's what the

the ESG corporate industrial rate is typically 10 to 20 cents.

They were charging these organizations a dollar to do the same stuff.

Now, you can see the scam building here, right?

So

they wind up charging all this money.

They raise hundreds of millions of dollars.

The company winds up growing to multiple billions of dollars in this period.

And it's similar to we talked about it yesterday, the George Floyd era, where everybody's just throwing money at BLM to make themselves look feel good, even though BLM is just buying houses with it, right?

Like it's that type of thing.

So the same thing's going on with the ESG stuff.

They are supposedly offsetting all this carbon for these massive organizations.

And,

you know, is any of that happening?

Yeah.

Probably not.

Probably not.

But, you know,

at the very least, overcharging for it.

So

they get all this money, they get all these donations.

Eventually, one of the two Democratic officials winds up getting arrested for like fraud.

Okay.

And when that happens, a few days later, the entire thing goes bankrupt.

So

aspiration goes bankrupt.

Completely went up.

Wow.

Multiple billion-dollar

organizations.

It's like an Enron thing.

Yeah.

All built on this, you know, I would argue, green scam from the beginning, but they're even scamming the people who wanted to be involved in the green scam.

That's how bad this is.

Wow.

Right?

Wow.

So what they find, and at the end of the story here, and you can, you know, you should get, it's worth listening to.

You know, it's a fascinating tale.

Pablo Torre finds out is the name of the podcast if you don't know it.

But they had,

in the bankruptcy filing, they list the companies that they owe the most money to.

Third or fourth on the list is a company called KL2 Incorporated or something.

Kawhi Leonard.

Kawai Leonard, he's number two.

He has some LLC

where they owe him $7 million.

Now, in theory, okay, maybe he was a celebrity endorser.

They had a marketing deal with him.

Well, that was what they said happened.

However, no one can find any example of him ever talking about this at all.

So did they pay him the 21 million?

It's 28 total.

28 million total that was paid to him in secret right that nobody knew about yeah so that they could no work for they could avoid the salary cap uh and and so it's just endorsement money which doesn't count toward the salary that's what they're alleging basically

you can't just pay somebody extra above the salary cap or it would be unfair the salary cap wouldn't mean anything so the the but their their endorsement deals are separate part of that but you can't promise those to players although that would be in the salary cap so what the and this is all alleged but what they the uh allegation here is that they basically, you know, Steve Ballmer, who is one of the richest men in the world, owns the Clipper.

Microsoft.

He's involved in

this aspiration thing at some level.

They

wind up saying, hey, Kawhi, we'll give you $28 million

basically under the table.

Now, instead of just, I don't know, faking a few tweets about it, which would at least cover your butt, they do nothing.

He does nothing.

He never says anything about it.

He never mentions it in any interview.

He never does anything for aspiration.

Ever.

Nothing.

That's amazing.

At least as far as it's been able to be found so far, he gets absolutely nothing out of the deal, and he never tweets about it and never mentions it in any context and gets $28 million for it.

Which would it be?

Just tweet.

Yeah.

Just throw out a few.

Get your people to throw up a couple of messages and at least you could justify it.

But they never bother to do that, which is why it becomes a sports scandal.

But like, step back for a second.

First of all, how funny is this that people,

and I hate, you know, there are people who have

really positive hopes and dreams and really believe this environmental stuff and really want to help.

And in some ways, you kind of feel bad for them.

In other ways, you just have to laugh because here are people who donated their money, who gave their money to this, who paid this organization for this greenwashing.

And

millions and millions of dollars that were supposed to go to plant trees went to Why Leonard so he could go on the Los Angeles Clippers

and never tweet about this organization.

I mean, it's almost this.

I can say this:

these are all allegations.

We'll see how it plays out, but this type of stuff is absolutely infesting this world.

This world of these world of green companies, it's almost alchemy, Pat.

It is like this

potential

starting point to just print money because the context of the business is you're planting trees somewhere in Africa to fight back against an invisible gas.

What an incredible...

I mean, you...

Gordon Gecko dreamed of coming up with an idea like that.

You want to talk about all the greatest scams.

Bernie Madoff would have been like, oh, wait, hold on.

I don't even have to fake the documents?

This is beyond.

Ponzi would have absolutely adored an idea like this.

Enron did more work than this.

At least they were doing something.

Yeah.

Sort of.

Sort of.

Kinda.

Kinda.

At least people got energy.

Wow.

This is accomplishing nothing.

It is a giant.

It's a rounding error in a massive mathematical equation if you believe every bit of it.

If you believe only the best things in every single piece of Al Gore's movie and speeches and all the stuff he's done, at the very best, it is a rounding error of a giant

mathematical equation, which many of its inputs are self-reported from China.

Was there anything else that Aspiration did other than plant trees?

That was their main part of their business, other than make commercials with celebrities.

Incredible.

uh just a fascinating story and it's a breaking out there's going to be because i think you're going to get this first layer of this being sports but the

like conservative media and i hopefully some uh some mainstream journalists are going to pick up on this as well and dive into it it's much bigger than that i mean you know the people who were running this organization were endorsed by bill clinton money from the clinton foundation was pointed into this organization there's another thing that should be investigated yes the clinton foundation yes that's That's a massive scam as well.

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Did you see the

video of something being thrown from the White House?

It's

kind of strange.

I saw something about this.

This is because

initially it was reported as real.

And then didn't Donald Trump suggest it wasn't?

He did suggest it was AI because he said, okay, so you see on the video that something comes out of the White House.

You don't know what it is.

Something comes out.

Something comes out of one of the windows on the second floor of the White House that faces 15th Street or something.

So something is thrown out the window.

And then

Peter Doocy asks the president about it.

He says, I don't know anything about that.

Can you show me?

And so Peter Doocy comes and shows it to him on his phone.

And he said, that must be AI because you can't open those windows.

Okay, so he's just reacting to this in real time.

And, you know, it made sense because those windows are bulletproof, right?

So you don't just open windows.

He said they weigh like 600 pounds or something.

And so you don't just open up the window and throw things out of the White House.

So you don't know if it's AI or if it's something real or what in the world it would have been that was thrown out of the second story window at the White House.

I don't know, but it's a weird, it's a weird story.

But Peter Doocy also asked President Trump.

Well, wait, hold on.

Before you go off on that one, I had heard, though, that the White House confirmed it was real.

Oh, did they?

Because I hadn't.

Okay, so we don't know where this settles.

That's what my understanding was, that they said it actually was real.

And did they say what it was?

Garbage?

Is that what they're Garbage thrown out the second story window at the White House?

That's what I...

That is a weird...

That would be a weird thing to do.

I didn't see the video, but was it like a black

plastic bag or something?

It was dark.

You couldn't really tell because it was from so far away.

What's the allegation?

It was a corpse?

What are they trying to say?

It's not big enough for a corpse.

So I don't think they're trying to even allege that somebody's throwing dead bodies out of the second story window.

Maybe some of the leftover cocaine from the Biden White House was found.

Maybe.

Somebody's Somebody's like, let's get rid of this right now.

I love how the media is interested in this, but they were not at all interested in the actual cocaine actually found in the actual White House.

Right.

We didn't care who that was.

No.

You can't figure it out, Pat.

You will never know.

This is the most documented.

There's cameras everywhere.

Well, not there.

Not then, not in that spot.

Why would you have cameras at the White House?

That's true.

That's true.

So, yeah, garbage.

Is that the explanation, really, of the...

Let me see if I can find an updated look for that because...

That's

I don't know why you would be throwing out garbage from the second-story window at the White House, but

it's kind of funny, though.

It is funny.

Because that's what you do when you just don't feel like carrying it all the way down.

Are the bags leaking?

You just kind of

throw it out the window.

What could be down there?

The White House would necessarily engage in such a thing, but

so, no.

It's relatable.

Yes.

And we've all done it.

We've all done.

We've all done it.

Look, I'm not walking this thing all the way downstairs and out to the garbage can unless I throw it out the window.

Gravity always wins.

Throw the thing out the window.

It'll land.

You deal with it down there.

It makes a lot of sense.

It's called efficiency.

We're always complaining about the lack of government efficiency.

That's incredibly efficient.

Very much so.

The other thing is, and we'll get into this in a second, but

all of the reports of the president's health right now, all of a sudden, the news media is all over the health of the president.

They couldn't be more concerned about what's wrong with a president right now.

I mean, they were totally fine with a president who lost his mind and could barely walk for four years.

But now that a president has a bruise on his right hand, now they're all over.

What is going on with the health of this president?

So we'll get into that coming up because Peter Doocy actually asked President Trump about reports that he was actually dead over the weekend.

If he responded, I feel like, no.

He did, okay.

He did respond, and it turns out, no, he's not dead.

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Lots of concern now, all of a sudden, about the health of the President of the United States.

They weren't concerned at all for four years when they should have been.

Here's a guy with dementia.

Here's a guy who could barely stand half the time.

We played a montage of

Joe Biden walking through sand.

It looked like the guy was going to collapse at any second.

Oh, is that real?

I didn't think that one was AI.

Oh, my gosh.

I thought that one was AI.

No!

That was a real clip of him walking through sand?

Yeah.

Play cut seven.

This is Biden falling asleep.

This is Biden falling upstairs.

And he...

Whoops.

Oh, boy.

Look out.

Okay, the three times that he tripped, climbing the stairs at Air Force One.

And then he finally gets seven salutes.

And then he falls over the sandbags.

That looked like it hurt.

That's got to hurt.

That was a big one in a lot of the books about the election, by the way.

And he's that particular incident.

Yeah, okay.

And then this, this is walking through this.

Okay.

I mean, look at that.

Is that

a healthy?

That's a real cliff Harold Man.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's he and Jill walking on the beach.

Sharp as a tech.

Delaware.

Wow.

Sharp as a tech.

Nobody, 20-year-olds can't keep up with the guy.

Mr.

President.

Mr.

President, what are you going to say to Trump on Wednesday?

Mr.

President, why can't you walk?

That's black.

Anyway, then he trips over the color black, I guess.

You can't be expected to.

He almost fell face first on the stairs in wherever that was, China, I think, or Japan.

Then he falls up the stairs again.

Yep.

Oh, boy.

Oh, look out.

He touched down not even four hours ago.

That was a quick

juicy.

Again, almost fell.

Oh, somebody has to grab his arm, help him.

Allocated, falls again up the stairs.

Trips.

Really had a problem with the stairs.

He really did.

She even mentioned the president did have a slight trip there as he's boarding Air Force One.

Thank you, but there's no problem.

Don't worry about it.

Oh, this is my favorite one, right?

I love this.

On the bike, he just falls over.

And

oh, golly.

That's the best one.

one.

A little fake jog there.

Then he tripped up these stairs.

Then acts like he had it out on purpose.

Then he falls asleep at

several meetings.

And inclusive

across the street.

No, I mean, that's too much to ask.

And then here he is at Normandy, falling asleep.

Respectful.

Oh, man.

That's a lot.

And they didn't seem to be interested in it at all.

Not at all.

But because Donald Trump has a bruise on his right hand,

they're completely out of their minds with what's wrong with this president.

Plus, he's dragging his leg.

Have you heard that?

He's dragging.

Let's see him get out of.

Yeah, go ahead.

Show the getting out of the...

I mean, I think he might have something wrong with his knee.

It looks like he might have an issue with joint pain or something.

I don't know, but he's not dragging his leg.

Unless the definition of dragging is different than I've believed it to be my entire life.

And there he's doing the little Trump dance.

And then he,

I don't know, is there, does it look like something's wrong with his knee?

Maybe a little bit.

Maybe he's got a lot of money.

He might have some issue.

And that's

not necessarily a significant thing.

Again, what's fascinating about this is how they didn't care.

They didn't care at all.

In a couple of the

tell-alls about the election election that have come out since uh the 2024 election the particularly the one where he trips over the sandbags was a massive thing that that's what when really when a lot of the panic started in the campaign with the democrats really thought biden they're like this could happen at any time if he this guy falls down again we have real real problems now of course there's these little stumbles but like the the bike one was really bad that that very bad the sandbag one was really bad yeah where he just really falls over completely uh What's fascinating about Trump is honestly,

I might prefer if he had a little bit less energy.

I have to cover everything he talks about.

It makes me tired.

And

really, like, at 79 years old, the pace that this guy keeps up is fascinating.

I think that is something you,

whether you like his policies or you don't like his policies, you really have to acknowledge.

You might think, like, you can't be a real dictator if you're super duper lazy at not getting anything done and falling asleep all the time.

It's hard to be a dictator, right?

You know, they keep accusing him of being Hitler.

You need a lot of energy to be that guy.

And, you know, I don't know.

I will say, if you're going to be the guy that runs everything and you're going to be the person who's cracking down all the time, you have to have a lot of energy.

I think that's quite obvious.

He does have.

Does he have a knee problem?

I don't know.

But I mean, that's never been a.

There's never been an issue.

We had presidents who were in wheelchairs.

That's not the problem.

It's not really all like with Biden, it wasn't about the fact that he stumbled every once in a while or even that he was old.

It was just that that was an indication

building on top of

what we had seen for so long and his lack of ability to do even the basic functions of the presidency, like showing up in public.

Yeah.

Communicating.

Doing interviews, press conferences.

The media is so concerned.

Here's Jen Saki talking about Trump being in hiding for days.

A week?

But you don't actually need baseless online conspiracies to explain why he might not want to show his face in public right now.

I love

that they're actually entertaining this as it's a real thing.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

If you're not obsessively online, you might not know that the left was basically insinuating that the president had died for the last week.

That they had come up with this conspiracy theory that he had died because he hadn't made a lot of public appearances for a week.

Now, the man does love the camera and does love to be out in front talking to people.

He does this all the time.

So him not doing that for a week is...

mildly notable, right?

Like, I mean, I could see why you'd notice it because he's always out talking to people.

But, you know, people also can take vacations.

He was playing some golf, it seems like, during that time,

you know, people, it's not, all the work of the president is not done in front of cameras.

And so

it's very easily explainable, and it was easily explained by the man when he showed up alive to things over the past couple of days.

Yes.

And Peter Doocy asked him about

the reports over the weekend that he was actually dead, cut three.

About a big viral social media trend over the weekend.

How did

You see that?

No.

People didn't see you for a couple days.

1.3 million user engagements as of Saturday morning about your demise.

Really?

You didn't see that?

You know, I have heard it's sort of crazy, but last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful.

They went very well, like this is going very well.

And then I didn't do any for two days, and they said there must be something wrong with him.

Biden wouldn't do him for months.

You wouldn't see him.

And nobody ever said there was ever anything wrong with him and we know he wasn't in the greatest of shape.

No, I heard that.

I get reports.

Now you knew I did an interview that lasted for about an hour and a half with somebody and everybody saw that was on one of your competitors.

It was a daily caller.

He did some interview in the period where they said he was missing.

So he actually was doing things.

I don't know if they didn't release it then.

Maybe they were holding it for a couple days.

I don't know exactly how that played out.

But it's just nonsense.

And

I think it's wish casting.

I think this is what they want to happen.

It is.

They want bad things to happen to this guy.

This is why you see so many people cheering on

when he was almost killed.

They were cheering him on,

cheering on the assassins.

There's no shortage of this stuff.

If you go online, you can find a lot of people just rooting outwardly for demise.

For his demise, yeah.

There's also a conspiracy theory on the left.

You know, the right is supposed to be so conspiratorial.

There's a conspiracy theory on the left that the entire assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania was a fake.

Oh, yeah.

It was fake.

It still lives, that one.

With a, yeah, there were, I mean, there's just more coming out about that over the weekend.

That he was shot with a rubber bullet.

There was also the glass shattering theory.

Yeah.

That the right.

The bullet struck a teleprompter, which then deflected glass at his ear.

Which was disproven a long time ago, like the next day.

Yeah.

And it's look, a lot of people in a moment like that come up with reports and theories.

And that's, you know, somewhat,

I would again say it's better to be right than first.

But a lot of people come out and just wildly speculate.

Again, a man was actually killed in this scenario.

He was struck with a real bullet.

It wasn't a rubber.

They didn't use a real bullet on him and a rubber bullet on the president.

I mean, this stuff is so nonsensical, but it's a coping mechanism for the left.

I mean, when that happened, it was blatantly clear that there was no way Joe Biden was winning that election.

I mean, it was already clear that he was going to lose that election.

But once we hit a time where the president was almost assassinated on stage, and not just that, but also then stood immediately up and said, fight, fight, fight.

And in one of the most incredible moments in the history of the country, there is no way Joe Biden was going to defeat him.

And so I think there was a big coping mechanisms that grew out of that moment.

And of course, they switched candidates.

It got closer for a while.

There's a bunch of stuff that happened after that.

What a freaking year that was.

But

this is just craziness.

People are so obsessed with him.

I can't understand it.

We are supposed supposed to be a country that does not obsess about the president like this right we are that's not the way our government is set up right he's just one part of the government it's not it's not supposed to be a dominating feature of your life and for millions and millions and millions of people on the left that's all they think about every day one of your favorite guys and mine was actually rooting for his demise uh tim walls

uh cut four check this out i have not you get up in the morning and you doom scroll through things and

although i will say this the last last few days you woke up thinking there might be news um

just saying

just saying that's funny there will be news sometime just so you know there will be news

so what a dirt bag seems to be saying there will be news sometime that donald trump is dead and that's what he's actually rooting for um it seems to me uh this guy is a real piece of work i i don't know why we continue to have to hear from him i thought really this was over yeah i did too this is i was hopeful hopeful, the single worst vice presidential pick in American history.

By far.

It's not even close.

There have been people who've been thrown out of the job, and I would still say he's worse.

Was Abraham Lincoln compared to this guy?

He's just unbelievable.

I'd rather have Spiro Agne now

than Tim Walls.

Yes, and he's been dead for 40 years.

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We have an update on the situation with throwing something out of the White House window.

It was a corpse.

We now know it was a corpse.

Do we know who?

No, we don't know who.

It's like a janitor or somebody.

We just saw a leg sticking out of the bag.

And so we do know now it was a corpse.

Well, that's solved then.

Yeah.

So

while the left is freaking out about AI.

Give it just a dead body.

Leave them alone.

What are you going to do?

Carry the body all the way down the stairs?

No, that's too much.

There's an open window.

You just toss it out.

Gravity brings it to the ground.

You pick it up when you get down there.

That's how you, this is how you evacuate a body from your building.

Now, so they're,

and the left is trying to make this into yet another controversy with Donald Trump.

They're saying he lied about it being AI, which as you blatantly, when you see the video of him seeing it, he didn't even know it happened.

He didn't know.

He sees a video of it on a phone.

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It looks like you can't even open those windows.

Because it does make sense.

If you can't open the windows, that

nobody opened the window to throw something out.

It must have been AI.

Right.

So

the leftists first went and started posting pictures of these windows being open.

Like there's a picture with Reagan and Nancy waving to people outside of one of these windows.

See, you can open the windows.

That was their first step.

Now we have an email from the White House.

Again, a terrible, terrible thing there.

They're hiding this body they dropped out of

the second floor really well.

And really, nobody's even alleging it was a body.

It wasn't big enough to be a body.

No, it looks like a small, like a bathroom garbage can bag.

It's like a tiny...

I would actually get a little bit upset at the contractor who did it potentially because

it was a light enough bag that you should have just carried it down.

But that being said, a spokesperson from the white house confirmed by email that the clip was authentic explained what it showed he said a contractor who was doing regular maintenance while the president was gone threw it out the window so that's that's the end of the story okay is that a normal thing do they throw things out the white house window a lot or do they normally walk it down and throw it away my guess is and this is speculation on my part pat okay

this stuff happens all the time when you're a contractor i mean i've seen it happen i worked at jobs when i was younger where I threw things out the window because I didn't feel like carrying them downstairs.

This is not an I've done it at my house, I'm sure.

In fact, I know I have.

Thrown it off our porch because I didn't feel like carrying it down through the house.

So it probably happens.

And then someone who's working a job at the White House was then told there are different rules at the White House.

You can't just throw stuff out the window.

That's probably the end of it.

Somebody who normally does that at a job and would normally do that with no problems needs to realize there's cameras, people talk about it.

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Got a couple of indicators of how the American middle class is disappearing.

Oh no.

Yeah.

They're disappearing.

Disappearing.

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I don't know.

Could they have been thrown out of the window of

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adults are taking over Disney and they're forcing out America's middle-class families that

have to pay $10,000 to take their family to it.

Then they got to stand in long lines because adults are ahead of them.

This is a big thing.

Yeah.

I guess.

Do you know?

I know there's a couple of people around here who love to go to Disney as adults,

whom

we've talked to about this in the past.

I'm sort of fascinated by it.

Like, it's not to say that there's not something fun to do at Disney for adults.

But, like, if I'm going to take a vacation, it's not my number one choice.

Now, our own Glenn Beck, a big, big Disney nerd.

Yes.

And I don't know that he goes there anymore.

He kind of got tossed off of them maybe in the woke era for good.

I don't know that he still goes back, but for a long time, he would go back and he'd bring the kids, but also kind of like not bring the kids.

They didn't have to be there for him to enjoy it.

He just loved Disney.

And a lot of people are like that.

I don't quite get it.

Do you get it?

Yeah, I like Disney.

Would you go by, like, if you had a choice, you're planning a vacation, no kids involved, you and Jackie are going to go,

are you like, all right, let me just pitch this to you, Disney.

I would.

You would.

Yeah, I would.

I would.

We just went in February with my grown

son and his wife.

And we went to Disney and to the new Universal.

That's interesting.

I see it much more as a kid's pursuit.

Like, we took our kid to Disneyland right before COVID.

That was their one trip.

Congratulations.

Hope you liked liked it.

And they're the perfect age for it.

It was fantastic.

And I went as a kid many times.

Not many times, three or four times.

We had a relative who worked there.

So we got there a couple of times, maybe more than our finances would have allowed to in a normal circumstance.

But it was, you know, great.

But I just, it doesn't, it doesn't seem like the thing that if I'm going to plan a vacation for a couple of adults, that wouldn't be my top choice.

But I mean,

for many people, it is.

So that's fine, right?

And Disney loves that.

Disney wants you there.

Disney wants adults to come because obviously it ups their numbers, but it ups their numbers in a few different ways.

Because basically, families typically go there cheaply.

Families go there with a budget.

Because typically they're, you know, they're growing, you know, you're younger, you don't have as much money, you're trying to pay off maybe a house, you've got a couple of kids, you know, college is on the way.

So families typically go to Disney and they're watching their pennies as much as they can, right?

They've come up with a budget, they're trying to fit it in.

And that has always been one of the main driving forces of Disney.

People who make one trip every three or four years and save up for that Disney trip.

Yes.

What has happened is a bunch of adults have decided they want to go and they enjoy that experience and they've got a lot more money.

Now, there are multiple groups here.

It could be people like our own Pat Gray, who are living off that cookie money.

McKexie Cookie Cash just flowing in all the time.

Flowing in.

I mean, it's just rolling in.

I mean,

the fact that you took not one, but two Rolls-Royces to work today, Pat, I thought was a little egregious.

Excessive?

I thought it was a tough excessive.

I don't even know how you drove.

Would you have one leg in one and one leg in the other, and you had to put your arms down to drive the steering wheels?

I don't even know how you do it.

Yeah, it's hard.

Two at once is difficult.

So you got all that going on with Pat.

Also, big

fans of Disney tend to be gay individuals,

and they

often have large amounts of disposable income.

So they are spending large amounts of money at Disney as well.

Now, Disney, of course, as a business, has reacted to these truths.

And they've said, hey, what if we charge these people a lot more and give them better experiences, right?

We'll give them upgraded experiences.

They can skip the lines.

They get the fancier restaurants, the nicer hotels, all the bells and whistles, which, again, as a capitalist, I totally adore.

But what's happening is the complaint is, at least, that now the average families who are going there are having the line cut constantly by people like Pat with this Kexie cookie money.

Right.

You know, where Pat pays, Pat pays, and if you don't know this, Pat, on the back of the Snickerdoodle, was able to shut down large portions of the park so just him and his family could walk around by themselves.

They're not even allowed in the park.

Right.

We rented the whole place.

He just didn't even care.

You didn't care about the families.

You saw the families outside.

And I laughed at them.

Yeah, you laughed at them.

I laughed at them.

And then a Disney employee came up and said, hey, just so you know, I know you have this all rented out, but you can let some of those families in.

You're not even going to see them if you want to.

And you said, no.

No.

No.

I don't let their filth.

I wish.

That would be great.

It would be fun.

That would be great.

It would be fun.

So instead, what the actual thing that is happening is all these people are paying up for great experiences and it's kind of leaving the average person who can barely afford it,

you know, leaving them in the lurch.

And that's the accusation.

A big story.

I think it was the New York Times or Wall Street Journal maybe that had it recently.

And one thing I was fascinated by was this little nugget in there, Pat.

And this is something we've talked about before.

But this says, for the most of the park's history, Disney was priced to welcome people across the income spectrum, embracing the motto, everyone is a VIP.

Now, I went to Disney.

I don't ever remember it being even close to affordable.

Maybe it was at one point.

No, no.

Never when I went.

Our family could never actually afford it.

We were always in debt after.

And

it was a treat beyond treats, the Magic Kingdom, right?

It was supposed to be a once, maybe twice-in-a-lifetime type of experience.

I mean, if you're just buying the all-park passport, and that's what you probably want so that you can go to all the different areas.

Yeah.

It's $1,500 plus tax.

Wait, for how long?

A month?

Okay, so you get, oh, no, that's a full year of access to all four theme parks, two water parks, and other sports

experiences.

I mean, that's not, I mean, that's if you're living in Orlando.

Yeah, if you're very sensible, actually.

Obviously, if you're coming to Disney from Texas or Montana or California, you're not going to buy that.

I would have have definitely thought that was more expensive.

I would too, frankly.

I would too.

This happens a lot.

So do they have a daily price in there?

As you're looking at?

I'm not sure for the daily.

Let me push you through the rest of this and we'll get to the actual price.

But

they said, in doing so, this everyone is a VIP philosophy, created a shared American culture by providing the same experience to every guest.

The family that pulled up in the new Cadillac stood in the same lines, ate the same food, rode the same rides, the family that arrived in a reused Chevy.

Back then, America's large and thriving middle class was the focus of most companies' efforts and firmly in the driver's seat.

That middle class has so eroded in size and in purchasing power, and the wealth of our top earners has so exploded

that America's most important market today is its affluent.

Listen to the communism there.

Oh, yeah.

Like, because there are rich people,

it is hurting others.

Making more money.

How does that hurt me in any way?

And I never.

How much money have you lost because Elon Musk has $300 billion?

That's a bad example because currently Tesla's in the middle of taking my money.

So I would say that is not a good example.

But generally speaking, I would agree with you.

Yeah, it's nothing.

They don't take anything from you.

This is not a pie that they take in too big a piece.

It's a bakery where you bake your own cash pie.

Yeah, and you grow it.

Right.

But the pie grows.

It doesn't get divided.

This is an

either-or scenario.

They want you to believe that if one person does well, another person must do poorly.

And it's just not true.

It's not true.

And of course it's not true.

They say, by the way, I also don't remember a time in our history where America's most affluent was not the most important market.

Like, yes, there are more people, but like, you know,

the wealthy in every society are going to

draw the most expensive experiences.

Obviously.

Right?

Like, that's like like it's always been yeah yeah that's just i mean i i just don't maybe i'm and glenn is the disney historian uh so maybe he'd be able to tell us a time and maybe it was when walt was alive where they really targeted only the middle class and didn't give any upgraded experiences as long as i can remember though they've always had some level of upgraded experience sure for people who want to pay more where you uh you can get

You can get a pass that helps you avoid the huge line and you can go right up to the front because they've got a separate line for it.

Yeah.

And not just Disney, but all parks have that.

Yeah.

And I will say, when I went as a kid, we got the very basic pass.

We stood in very long lines.

I still loved it, had a great time.

When I went with my kids in 20,

it was Halloween right before COVID.

We went there and

I said to myself, number one, this is the only time I'm going to be doing this with the kids.

And number two,

I will pay almost any conceivable amount to not deal with all of the hassles.

So I don't remember what thing I bought.

It wasn't the most expensive thing.

I know people,

maybe friendly Disney historians, who have had much better experiences than I had at Disney.

But I was able to skip some of the lines.

You get the extra passes you can get in line and multiple things at the same time.

That's the type of stuff that you can buy there.

And it winds up costing you several hundred dollars extra.

It is not the cheapest thing in the world.

It's not

a mortgage payment for most people, but

it was expensive.

And I did pay up for the better experience.

I would say it was

much more enjoyable because I was just thinking about like, gosh, these lines are going to meet.

Some of the lines, you get there and

they'd be an hour, an hour and a half.

And I'm not waiting.

My kids were young at the time.

I'm not waiting in an hour and a half line with them.

It's not happening.

At that new Universal Park, we waited.

four hours in line for the new Harry Potter thing.

I mean, whatever it's called.

There isn't

anything in the world I would wait four hours for.

Me neither for.

I would never do it again, and it certainly wasn't worth it.

But

it was agonizing.

How much time in the ride did they spend on transphobia?

Did they get into that a lot?

Did they say?

They didn't really get into that.

Really?

Because that's all I hear about J.K.

Riley.

She had no other life experience, no accomplishments, other than the fact that she's a transphobe.

Yeah.

That's what my understanding was these days.

Okay, so you went.

Wait, so you went, you literally stayed in the line.

We literally went

in line for four hours.

I wouldn't wait four hours for the Super Bowl.

I know.

Why would you do this?

We didn't think it was going to be that long, but sure enough.

I mean, it's kind of cool because you see some interesting things along the way.

They've made the line enjoyable there.

Four hours enjoyable?

No.

No.

No.

No.

An hour enjoyable.

Maybe 90 minutes would have been enjoyable.

Four hours was not enjoyable.

At two and a half hours, did you think, I got to get out of this line?

I'm pulling the plug on it.

Yes, but then I thought, but then I've wasted two and a half hours.

Right.

So I'm going to stick it out.

It's on cost fallacy.

You were legitimately an example of it.

Yep, exactly.

Did you know at two and a half hours that you had another hour and a half?

No, because I would have left.

If I would have known, I would have left.

Understandable.

Understandable.

So they say the middle class is so eroded in size and purchasing power

rich people got richer.

America's most important market today is the affluence.

So they provide a link, which I like when they do that, right?

When they're making a claim like the middle class has so eroded in size and purchasing power

that they're making a claim like that, you can't just say that.

Now, oftentimes, the New York Times will just do that, but this time they provided a link.

A link goes to a Pew Research study, which is the state of the American middle class.

And they do show that in 1971, 61%

of the American people were in the middle class.

Now it's less than that now?

It's 51%.

Oh my God.

It's gone down 10%.

10%.

10%

in 60 years.

First of all, number one on my observation list would be, that does not really tell me it has so eroded that our economy has collapsed from 61 to 51.

That seems like a difference, a notable difference.

I don't know that I would say it's so eroded, it's changing our entire society.

But okay,

we'll take that.

That's an opinion, I suppose.

If you really believe that's really eroded, it's still the majority of our country.

But okay, you want to say it's really eroded.

That's a big deal.

I wouldn't call that so eroded, but okay.

But

there has to be a follow-up question to this.

Because if you say the middle class is going away, what is the logical follow-up question to that, Pat?

Where did they go?

Where did they go?

Did they go to poverty?

Abject poverty?

They're the poor class now.

They're the poor class.

Certainly the insinuation.

Uh-huh.

Of course it is.

Insinuation is we used to have people who are middle class.

Now all these rich people got richer, the top one-tenth of a percent.

And that pushed all the people out of the middle class into the poor class.

Right.

What they, of course, don't tell you is that over 80% of the people who left the middle class went to the upper class.

That's fantastic.

That is fantastic.

The upper income has risen from 11% to 19% in that period,

which you'd think was a really good thing.

You would think, suggest, and by the way, there are measures of this, this is just the Pew measure, there are measures of this that show it even more dramatically.

But we'll use this one.

80% going to the upper husbands.

That's a popular thing.

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By the way, there's more to this eroding middle-class story.

And again, this is their link.

This is what they use to support their argument.

And they make it sound like it's really awful.

Like we're collapsing as a society because the middle class has gone away.

So the middle class, as we point out, has eroded.

80% of those people who left the middle class went from the middle class to the upper class.

The upper class, as they point out, has grown in income from $144,000.

on average in inflation-adjusted dollars to $256,000, which is a 78% increase.

You might say, well, that might be it.

Like they're going up.

And the people in the middle class, well, there might be fewer of them, they're making less.

Well, no, they in 1970, again, inflation-adjusted dollars.

$66,000 was the middle class in 1970.

Now it's $106,000.

Oh, wow.

That defines the middle class.

This is average.

Up 60%.

So slightly less than the upper class, but still up 60%

in inflation-adjusted dollars.

And you might say, well, there were 2% of the people who were in the middle class and have dropped to the lower class.

And that sucks, right?

That's bad.

But the reason seems to be the income numbers have just changed because in the lower class, their income has increased from $22,000 in 1970, inflation-adjusted, to $35,000 in 2022.

Because the actual number was probably more like, what, 5,000 in 1970?

For what?

For the lower class.

And now it's up to...

No, it was 22,000.

Right, 22,000 inflation-adjusted.

So not inflation-adjusted numbers.

See what you're saying.

Probably more like five.

It was probably more like 5,000.

Yeah.

So 22,000 to 35,000.

Again, we want to use inflation-adjusted because that's an important measure, but a 55% increase there.

So what you've seen is increases between 55 and 78% across all three income groups.

The vast majority of the people who have migrated out of the middle class have gone to the upper class.

And the people who have gone from the middle class to the lower class largely seems to be

a piece of strange

economic data that just means that the lower class has become more

affluent, if you will.

They've almost up 55% of the income, so it's catching some of the people that would normally in 1970 have been considered middle class.

I mean, it is

insane how these people, they just had, you just throw out a thing like that, and you can just say it without any support.

Oh, middle class is eroding.

And everyone goes, gosh, yeah, and just nods.

Look at the details as to what has happened.

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Talking about the left and their continual class warfare and

some of the news media that backs them up on this stuff and writes articles like the middle class is completely evaporating

really

and it's partially true it's gone down 10 but 8 percent of the 10 has gone to the upper class not the lower class and the lower class is wealthier than they were back in this golden age we're so 1970 excited about from the 70s which i kind of remember is not the best period no i we don't know back at that historically as a golden age uh we're much better off today than we were then now that doesn't mean that there aren't cultural things that you might not like.

You know, there's obviously, you know, you would say life was simpler then, probably.

Maybe, yeah.

You'd point, I think, to the rise of the, you know, the internet and social media as maybe a negative.

You'd look at

the falling of faith as a real negative in our society.

There's certainly things to look at and say, gosh, that's really bad.

That being said,

this idea that everything is terrible all the time is an obsession

in our world.

And it's really just not accurate.

It's not true.

You know, the way I always think about this, my ultimate example of this is there was a time in which people actually owned slaves.

Right.

Yeah.

And a lot of people weren't even angry about it.

Many were.

It created a city and wound up having a civil war,

certainly in large part, based on that.

Now our society freaks out about the statues of the people who were doing that at the time.

Right now we're freaked out because people who may have held slaves hundreds of years ago have statues in parks, nice parks,

made of them.

And we need to tear them down and that's our big,

you know, that's the way that we're being thwarted today by these mean statues that aren't doing anything.

They're just standing there.

And I think a lot of times we just lose sense of this.

That doesn't mean that things are great.

You know, like we can complain.

I think what we're typically complaining about, though, in the United States in particular, is where we could be as opposed to where we are, right?

Like

you might say to yourself, hey,

right now,

you know, 80% of people make over whatever the number, $35,000 a year in that one study.

And we wish it was 90.

We think it could be 95 or 100 if we weren't so insane with our spending or if we weren't, you know, if some of the jobs that we had from years past would have held up and the industries would have held up.

Whatever your complaint is about the economy, it's not to say that there's nothing to it.

It's just that we really do lose sight quickly at the wonders of what, you know, capitalism has brought us.

It has created miracles throughout not only this country, but the entire world.

And we have one party which is now turning to socialism in a much more overt sense than even in the past.

And the other party that I think is like,

I don't know how to describe it.

On the right, like I think the right largely still understands and appreciates what capitalism has brought us.

But there's certainly a

finicky group that has

sprouted out that

just says it's not good enough and we need to change lots, giant swaths of it to get better.

And I don't agree with that analysis, but I mean, at least it's theoretically an argument.

I just usually been an argument that's been made on the left.

And sadly, our youth, it seems, have been propagandized to believe that capitalism is evil and that socialism is the way to go.

I just saw a poll.

fairly recently in the last few weeks where like 18 to 34 year olds favor socialism over capitalism.

I mean, it was close, but they actually favored, so it shouldn't be, and it should be that capitalism was ahead, but it wasn't in this particular poll.

And that's because the left has done such an effective job with their Marxism and with their propaganda that they've demonized capitalism now.

And so our kids really think it's wrong to strive for something better in your life.

The Democrats always talk about the fact that people aspire to become middle class.

Who aspires to be in the middle class?

I don't know anybody.

You aspire to be

wealthy, usually, don't you?

Yeah, right.

Exactly.

If you came, like, oh, all you care about is money.

No, no, we're talking about the economy.

You aspire to many things, a wonderful marriage, wonderful children, a great job, a great family life, all those things.

But you don't always realize all those things.

You don't always.

You try it.

You try.

You aspire for it.

But no one says, you know what?

I aspire to

be $45,000 and have a mediocre marriage.

Right.

A pretty okay.

I want my job to be a lot of people.

I don't want to be super happy.

I don't want to really accomplish all the things I've wanted to accomplish.

Just some of them.

Right.

Right.

You know, you don't strive and aspire for a mediocre

marriage or income.

Look, that doesn't mean that your whole life is focused on getting a high income, but usually you would rather have higher than lower.

That's just the way it typically works.

And I always found it an interesting part of this phenomenon was the Ford Aspire.

It was an automobile that had been out for a while, and it was just not the automobile you aspired for.

Now, it didn't mean that it didn't get you around.

I'm sure it was fine.

It was a vehicle that I could have seen myself.

I owned a Ford Tempo when a Ford Tempo was

something that existed.

We all had cars like that when we were younger.

We didn't necessarily aspire to the Ford Tempo.

You know, the Ford Tempo was fine.

The Ford Aspire was probably fine.

I don't know.

I never drove one, but

I was very happy with it.

Yes?

Yes.

Because it was better than not having a car at all, which was what my alternative was.

The first thing you aspire to is having a car.

Then you aspire to having a better car.

You don't aspire, you know, I would like, now that I've achieved this, I'm going to stay here forever.

That's not the way I think the American people think, but they are legitimately depressed about the economy.

There's a new story in the Wall Street Journal: Americans lose faith that hard work leads to economic gains.

This is really dangerous for a society.

This, the disconnect between these two things is number one, which what has set us apart from Europe largely over the past 50 years.

This has split over and over again.

This poll is the same.

Can you, if you work hard, do you get ahead?

We all are always like 70% yes.

And Germany and France are always 70% no.

It's just things you can't control.

Life is being done to you.

That was the European attitude.

Our attitude was, we're making our lives.

Life is what we make of it.

That was our attitude.

This is changing now.

A new poll in the

Wall Street Journal.

People like me have a good chance of improving our standard of living.

This is just a hope standard, right?

This has been, you know, 75% agreement between 75 and, you know, in periods of, you know, recession, maybe it drew down to 55.

It was in 2018, you know, Trump first term at about

65, maybe 70%, just eyeballing a chart.

It is now down to 25%.

25%.

Collapsed.

Wow.

Now, it does seem like COVID was a major factor in that, that people

were just, their entire perception of the world world was changed by what happened after COVID.

This is why we ranted about it constantly during that period.

It was a massive change to our society.

But it does seem to be that period where that has separated.

Same thing when it comes to actual versus predicted consumer sentiment.

So this is measuring, hey, we have a bunch of economic stats

and we have a formula that says this is what people should feel about the economy.

when we have these economic stats.

These two things ran basically exactly together from, you know, 2000 all the way up until COVID.

Now it's completely separated to the point now where

it's

50 points different.

It used to be no more than five points different.

Now it's 50 points different on the scale where the economy and the Trump economy is pretty darn good.

The sentiment, pretty darn bad.

Why?

This is a total change of our society.

I think of the way that we're reading these numbers and

feeling these numbers is maybe the way to state that.

And you see over and over again that people just don't understand.

If you ask people

how many people are in poverty compared to the old days, people think it's increased.

People think those numbers have gone up when the exact opposite has happened by every measure.

Not to mention, I should point out, that capitalism has improved the things that we think of.

Like if we go back to 1970, what percentage of people had televisions?

Well, yes, that's increased from 1970 to today, as you would expect.

However, also the televisions are a lot better, right?

Like they're able to do incredible things that weren't even thought of in 1970.

Yeah.

Right.

And so you get not only, you could say, well, oh, we've gone from 95% ownership to 99% ownership.

So what?

Well, yeah, but there's more to that story.

Everything in that table has gotten even better.

So you look at.

Yeah, I'd like to see you put a 1970 television on the wall.

That would be interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

With the gigantic tube that they weighed 700 pounds.

I didn't even lift that thing.

It was a cabinet.

Yeah.

Oh, God, I love that television.

It was the one I grew up watching.

At our house.

And that was in the

80s.

And it was one that my dad kept

all the years after that.

It was still in his basement to he, right before he died, he finally gave it up.

And I just remember being like, good God, like this thing,

it must have weighed 300 pounds.

Yeah.

You need a moving crew to get this thing to go anywhere.

And if you slid it on the floor, it would dig into the flooring.

It would rip it up.

Yep.

That's what it was.

And now you could go to Walmart and get a

70-inch high-definition smart television.

That's an inch wide.

That's an inch wide and it weighs like 20 pounds.

Yeah.

You put the thing on the wall.

Yeah.

You just hang it there.

It's incredible.

It's always getting better.

And like this, this sort of thing is just, I think, dismissed these days by so many people

as being like, ah,

you know, so what?

Televisions don't make a society.

Of course they don't.

Of course they don't.

There's a thousand things you could name that have improved our lives since 1970.

That doesn't change your heart, right?

Like it doesn't change.

If you've lost faith and have a better television.

That's not a great change.

No.

You know, but it is important to understand that these things do get better over time in major ways, and we lose sight of it completely.

Yeah.

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We've been talking about the economy and

people's perception of it and how the left has propagandized people into believing things are crappy in America.

and that your life is not good and the middle class is disappearing.

Well,

yeah,

80% of them have gone to the upper class.

So, so laughable.

And you look at the effects of capitalism over a long period of time.

They are really amazing.

It's staggering.

Yeah.

In the 1800s, 80% of the world lived in what they call extreme poverty, below $1.90 a day.

And that did decrease.

Almost, not quite, but almost cut in half in the next 180 years.

So

that's good progress, but really, it didn't really start falling until one particular date, Pat.

When one particular date occurred,

we saw a massive decrease that continued over a long period of time.

And what was that date?

1980.

1980.

Can you think of anything that occurred?

Oh, yeah, the Olympics.

The Olympics in Moscow.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

That's right.

Is that what changed everything?

Is that what embraced communism?

That's when it happened.

Yeah, yeah.

From basically the day of Reagan's election.

Reagan till now.

Till now, it's gone from 46%

to 8%.

Now, that was.

8%.

Wow.

I will say that's a 2018 number.

So that's a few years old.

It's actually lower than that now.

And there's actually a controversy kind of.

So it's gone from over the years, though, 80% in the 1800s to

8%

in 2018.

Yes, incredible.

That's incredible.

It's a slightly lower.

I mean, you think of the years since 2018, you had

COVID, which was

a real problem for the economy, obviously, and then the Biden administration in America.

But, you know, globally, that is a small piece of the puzzle.

So it's been basically a little bit down, but flat since 2018.

One of the interesting things that's happening right now, though, is

they are adjusting the numbers.

They said they just added

like a million people into poverty.

And we're like, wow, is our economy reversing?

No, what they did was change the standard for what was poverty.

Wow.

They're just like, well, what if we change the number from whatever it was, $1.90 a day to $2.15 a day or whatever it was?

That was enough to increase the number a little bit.

The story is pretty clear over a long period of time that

this has been a miracle time.

You think about 1980, most of the people in the audience were alive in this period.

This improvement, almost all of it, has happened in our lifetimes.

And we don't even notice it.

It's not a story that's ever told or talked about.

It is, you know, if anything, people believe things are worse.

Yeah, they believe the opposite.

What do you think makes for that reason?

Is it just like a filter of the past where they see everything and like a leave-it-to-beaver?

Everyone owned their own house and it was this wonderful time, and everything was perfect.

That's probably part of it.

Is that part of it?

Yeah, is it just our doom scrolling where we're just constantly seeing bad news all the time on social media?

And

that could be a big part of it as well.

There's a good psychological study that should be begun to understand it.

Definitely.

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Al Gore is coming on the program.

Al Gore.

Al Gore may come on the program

because he's been proven wrong again

with the Arctic sea ice situation.

We played that that from, we played that

speech that he made in, I don't know, 2000,

2007, 2008, somewhere in there.

Okay.

Where he predicted that in thumb thumber month, according to Dr.

Matth Laowski,

the sea ice could be totally gone in thummer month.

In thumb thummer month.

We'll count all the disclaimers that he

had.

This is a fun game.

Awesome.

And we'll take a look at where, okay, where where are we with the Arctic sea ice now?

How's that going?

What's happened?

How's it going?

Let's check in.

I mean, it's almost 20 years later, and he said five to seven years.

So, where do we stand?

We'll get a look at that coming up.

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Al Gore warned that there would be no more sea ice

within five to seven years.

This was back in 2007 or eight.

I think the initial estimate was made in 2007.

I don't know what his statement was.

I think it might have been 2008 or 9.

Yes, he claimed in his 2007 Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech that the previous year, as the northern hemisphere, as the northern hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the north polar ice cap is falling off a cliff.

Oh, no.

Falling off a cliff.

One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years.

And then

he said this.

Some of the models

suggest to

Dr.

Maslowski that there is a...

Okay, so it suggests to Dr.

Maslowski, not necessarily everybody, but so there's the second disclaimer.

Well, I think I'm at three.

Thumb, okay, thumbs up.

Some of them.

Some of them are, not all of them.

Okay, not all of them.

Some of the models

suggest.

Don't necessarily say it.

They just suggest it to Dr.

Maslowski.

Dr.

Maslowski, not anyone else.

That's three right there.

Okay.

75% chance.

Okay, 75%.

That's not a hundred percent chance.

It's a 75% chance.

Some of the models suggest to this one doctor that there's a 75% chance that this could occur.

Oh, I love it.

That

the entire

North Polar ice cap

during summer, during some of the summer months.

Okay, not all of them, during all month, just some of them during some

months.

So that's an interesting one.

So you say the North Polar ice cap, right?

That's what he said?

Yes.

Now, that's not obviously all the ice, but I don't think that's a disclaimer.

Like, for example, he's not saying the summer months.

He's not saying the Antarctic.

Right.

Right.

So, but I won't say that's a disclaimer.

Okay.

He does say in summer months, so not all the time.

Is that a disclaimer?

It's not just.

Yes, it's some summer months.

Well, the summer months.

Summer months, and then just some summer months.

So that definitely is.

Okay, so some summer months.

Another disclaimer.

Months could be completely ice-free.

Completely ice-free.

Completely.

Okay, so there's another disclaimer.

It could be completely ice-free.

Within the next five to seven years.

And there's another disclaimer.

It could be five years, could be seven years.

Five to seven years, yeah.

So one, two, three, four, five.

I see eight disclaimers in that one.

That's the whole thing?

That's the whole thing.

Yeah.

Can we get it all in context now again?

Can we template one more time for it?

Some of the models

suggest to

Dr.

Mouth Loud that there is a 75% chance

that the entire

North Pole ice cap

during some of the summer months could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years.

Wow.

So it turns out his fearmonger, which apparently nets him about $200,000 per speaking engagement.

That's chicken feed to some of these guys.

I mean, you know, Obama makes, what, $400,000 or $500,000 per speech, but he was never president.

So cutting some slack there.

Oh my gosh.

No kidding.

Thank God.

But not only was he wrong about the 20-foot rise in the global sea level in the near future,

not only was he wrong about that, he was also wrong about polar bear drowning because the

thumb polar bears were going to drown

because of these rising sea levels.

And a lot of the babies, I guess, couldn't keep up with the sea rise.

Now, polar bears, incredible swimmers, 400, they can swim 400 miles.

They've been clocked at 400-mile swims.

So they could tread water for a really long time.

It's doubtful that they're going to be drowning.

But he was wrong about those.

He was wrong about the snows of Kilimanjaro, which were also supposed to be completely gone, completely evaporated.

But he was also wrong about the future of the Arctic ice.

It has slowed considerably.

In fact, Arctic sea ice loss

has no statistically significant decline in September sea ice since 2005.

That's amazing.

2005.

In 20 years, there's no significant loss.

That's amazing.

Now, wait, is that in some of the summer months or did you say December?

That's September.

Oh, September.

So that summer month.

So part of the summer month.

Part of the summer.

The summer month when you thought that the the ice would be gone completely

But so

it was

this is also in conjunction with the south pole with the Antarctic gain there have been significant sea ice gains in Antarctica So he didn't say anything about the Antarctic ice, but that that has actually increased over the last 20 years incredible It's unbelievable, really.

And what's unbelievable most about it is not the fact that you can't predict the future 20 years in advance.

That's actually really hard to do.

I mean, they can't even predict what's going to happen this afternoon with the weather

on a lot of occasions.

Yep.

I mean,

it's difficult to do.

And I actually,

if it wasn't for their annoying, I mean, I almost feel the same way about this as I felt about like COVID in March 2020.

It's like, well, the fact that you might not know what's going to happen with COVID in March 2020, I have a little grace for that.

It's really hard to probably figure out how that was going to play out.

But the fact that you continue to, number one, make certain projections about how it was going to happen.

With incredible certitude.

Yes.

By the way.

I'm 100% sure this is going to happen, or 75% sure in some of the summer markets.

There's complete consensus.

Yeah.

There's consensus, which is another big fat lie.

Yes.

And act this way, or you are a heathen and killing grandparents in the COVID case, or killing everyone in the global warming case.

I can understand, I have some grace for you missing out on some of these

predictions.

It's probably hard to do, but you can't have scientific certainty that changes everyone else's way of life at the same time

that you don't know what you're talking about.

You can either have science is hard and we're going to miss on some of these things or you have science is easy, we know it exactly, you have to change your life because of this, right?

You have to go one of those two paths.

What they want is both.

When they get it wrong, they want to say, oh, well, science is hard.

It's difficult.

Of course, we didn't know exactly what the situation was.

And

when they had, of course, they don't learn anything from that.

They will still say,

Sure, we were wrong then, but now we know.

Now we have the science we need.

Back then, we didn't have all the science.

Of course, we didn't have the science.

20 years ago, of course, science has improved in that time.

Now we know for 20 years in the future what it's going to look like.

What a great scam.

You never have to be right.

And you know who remembers the 2007, eight prediction of Al Gore?

Nobody except you.

Pat Gray,

because of his incredible Al Gore impression, is the only person who remembers that this was even said.

And he never has to pay a price for this.

Dr.

Maslowski seems to still be

at his job.

Yeah.

Listen to this.

I thought this was a fascinating rundown of the story.

Did the prediction hold true?

The Arctic was.

Who's writing this story, by the way?

This is

a massively conservative

right-wing coup.

No, it's just a summary from it's like an AI summary, I guess, of what happened here.

All right.

Did the prediction hold true?

Not exactly.

Not exactly.

The Arctic was not ice-free in summer by 2013.

And the window, by the way, of that prediction was 2013 to 2019.

So it was not ice-free in summer of 2013.

Despite the initial estimate, Dr.

Maslowski did not revise his prediction publicly.

This is my favorite part of this summary.

As of May 2021, he still held to the 2016 plus or minus three-year estimate, even though summer sea ice persisted.

So even though

he was wrong, he stuck to it.

He still stuck to it two years after it ended.

How is that possible?

How do you keep your job?

How do you keep your job?

You know what that's like?

That's like

an obscure pastor who predicts the end of the world.

Yes.

It's going to happen in October.

It's going to happen October 3rd.

And then October 3rd rolls around and they're like, oh, no, I was a little off on my calculation.

I meant December 12th.

And then December 12th rolls around and is like, no, it's probably next spring.

I missed carrying the one.

Right.

And so it's actually March 9th.

And then they just keep pushing this down the line.

And then that's what probably

Dr.

Mazlowski is doing now.

Yeah.

And so is Al Gore.

And they just say, well, it's coming.

There's never a moment.

Never a moment where they were wrong.

Just flat out wrong.

Subsequent analysis have shown that while sea ice decline continues, it has been more gradual.

than his lower bound estimate suggested.

So this is, we see this over and over again, these predictions that go out over time.

We find the actual results to be lower than the lowest prediction they could imagine.

I love that.

Over and over and over again, this happens.

And yet they are never, the same people are the same people making the predictions for the future of this, of this stuff.

It is incredible that nobody learns anything.

Nobody learns anything.

No one ever says, you know what?

I'm thinking next time we don't listen to that guy.

Nobody says says that.

Nobody ever has an awakening where they're like, you know,

what if we get another completely

insane nut job to make our next prediction?

What if we just mix it up?

Right.

Come up with another crazy person to say something next time.

No, they bring the same people who they trot out.

They've been wrong for forever.

The same guys who were talking about how we were going to have a population crash.

We weren't going to be able to feed people.

Oh my gosh.

Those people are still in power.

What's his face who predicted that the West Side Highway in New York City was going to be completely underwater by, was it 2000 or something?

Yes, gosh.

What was that?

That was to Hansen.

Yes.

James Hansen.

James Hansen.

James Hanson.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

From NASA.

And he's never been held accountable for that.

Nobody's ever said, hey, you are incredibly wrong on every single prediction.

What do you say to that?

But they're never, their feet are never held to the fire.

No, I remember it's amazing.

That particular prediction was made in an office overlooking the Westside Highway in Manhattan.

Yes.

And I

decided to go out and look at the highway to see if it was underwater.

It's not.

I remember that.

It's currently not underwater.

Huh.

No.

Are you sure?

What about today?

No, it's not underwater.

People have been driving on it.

Okay.

Yeah.

I mean, it's rained.

Yeah.

So, in a way, at times, it's been underwater.

They have had some flooding in other parts of Manhattan.

Yeah.

But

brief and it receded quickly after some serious storms.

But, you know,

that did not happen.

And all these things are just made with this incredible level of certainty.

You know, it's,

I kind of like, it's like if you were predicting, you know, the Cleveland Browns are going to win the Super Bowl this year.

They're going to win the Super Bowl this year.

It's going to happen.

And then, you know, there's no one who comes out, no freezing takes exposed to show, hey, this guy predicted the Cleveland Browns are going to win the Super Bowl with utter certainty.

And then they don't.

And then you're like, well,

that just means, I just got the year long.

I mean, I guess eventually, in theory, maybe they'll win.

It's going to be difficult.

It's been a rough road for our friendly browsers.

We love Euclid.

They've been there up until this point.

You know, maybe someday.

A couple of the worst losses in the playoffs of all time, man.

I felt for all of Cleveland in that period.

But like, you know, you just think to yourself, well, if you're doing that and you're missing on the prediction over and over and over again, at some point you lose the credibility to make the next one.

That doesn't happen in climate science.

No, it does not.

No, it doesn't.

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You know, science is just not all-knowing.

They do make mistakes, they make predictions that don't necessarily come true.

I can't think of any.

Well, we just talked about one for about 20 minutes.

That's right.

Did you miss that discussion?

Yeah, I did.

That's weird because you were a part of it.

Very, very strange.

But, you know, the whole climate science thing, which is there's supposedly consensus, and that's done and it's decided, and you're a climate denier.

They try to make you akin to somebody who denies the Holocaust.

If you ever say, hey, I understand there has been some warming, not an awful lot.

It's gone up like a degree in a hundred years.

Big deal.

It's actually made it so that we can grow more food, which seems like a good thing to a lot of people.

But even that,

they won't accept.

What you have to accept is that it's happening.

It's all caused by man, and it's catastrophic.

And if you don't buy into all of those things,

you're a denier.

And that's kind of how they acted too with the Big Bang theory, which, because of the James Webb Space Telescope, has also come into question.

I mean, scientists are not sure now.

They were sure before, like five years ago, 10 years ago, they were absolutely certain.

Everything started from one teeny, tiny little speck that exploded and created everything.

They were absolutely certain about that.

And now, not so much, because the James Webb telescope has apparently shown galaxies that shouldn't have been formed, you know, stars that existed before the supposed formation of the Big Bang.

And so

what it leads to is that science doesn't know everything with certitude.

It's a process.

It's, you know, we find out, we discover, we learn, and then we come up with different theories.

And it's just, but with climate change, you're not supposed to recognize any of that.

And if you do, you're some kind of right-wing kook, and

there's no hope for you.

It's fascinating.

It really is a strange thing.

And it's such a great scam because if you can get something like that where you never have to be held accountable, it's like

a money and influence printing machine.

You get to live this great life, and everyone respects you, and they don't remember anything that you said when you were wrong.

Wouldn't that be nice?

If

we just spewed anything we wanted and nobody remembered any of the mistakes that we made,

everything we say is untrue, what would happen to us?

We'd be off the air.

I mean, there would be consequences.

For our own personal enjoyment, we picked the wrong team.

Let's be honest about it.

As conservatives, we picked the wrong team here.

If we just wanted to have success money-wise and never feel guilty about all the things that we've done to other people,

never feel guilty about all the wrong predictions we've made, never be punished for the mistakes we make at work.

We talked about this earlier as we

starting a multi-billion dollar green bank that collapsed in a fraud scandal.

We covered that earlier this morning, if you missed it.

You don't have to ever really come to to, nothing ever happens to the people involved in it.

It's just more like, yeah, sure, sure.

You get a gig at a university working for a think tank.

And, you know, you just continue to go to the same parties and enjoy the same people and have the nice little, you know, place in Georgetown.

And weirdly, have the same credibility that you had before, despite the fact that nothing you've ever said.

panned out.

Sometimes you get more credibility, I feel like.

You know, like, I think when you stand by a prediction that had an end date of 2019 and it still has not happened in 2021, and you just proudly stand up for that, that's

amazing.

It would be hard to do.

It would.

It would.

I don't think I could pull that off, but somehow it's fine with Al Gore.

I mean, he's if he's still claiming, or was it Mazlowski?

Which one of them was claiming that it's they're still on track with that?

Dr.

Mazlowski.

Oh, Dr.

Mazlowski.

Amazing.

And where is he now?

He's still in the same gig, I think.

Which is, he's like a a

marine biologist or something?

He is a research professor, Department of Oceanography at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California.

I'm sure it's highly prestigious.

I'm sure it is.

I'm sure it is.

I'm sure that it is.

Good for him.

All right.

Well, Dr.

Malvlawski, you might want to revise your prediction just a bit since we're six years down the road from it.

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So, where do you stand on the National Guard troops being sent to all of these cities around the country?

I'm really actually more of a fan of crime.

Are you?

Yeah, I like

criminal activity.

I'm glad that there's a high violent criminal rate in each of these cities.

And I don't obviously want to live in a part of town like that.

I want to be able to exploit it for my own gain.

Oh.

So

I'll live in a nice suburb 30 miles outside

in a very...

But just enjoy the fact that people are losing their lives in the inner city.

Yeah.

Well,

violent crime, crime, really any crime I'm for.

Just so that I can explain that.

Well, then you fit right in with, say, J.B.

Pritzker and

Brandon, he's my neighbor.

They're both my neighbors, yes.

I love what, I mean, J.B.

Pritzker, has he become one of the most irritating figures

in the game?

He's getting up there.

He's getting up there.

He's not to Tim Walls level for me yet.

No, but who could be there?

It's hard to imagine something.

I mean, Tim Walls and Satan are probably the two people on my list.

Closer.

Close?

Yeah, very close.

Very close.

But here's Governor Pritzker on the Chicago crime scene.

You're going to hear people, especially this past weekend.

Pause it for just a second.

This is surprising that he can actually, he's actually taking a walk.

Is this the first time in his miserable life that he's ever done that?

I will say this.

Certainly this wasn't done for the cameras.

This is just him on a day-to-day basis.

He's a big, he just walks all the time.

Clearly, he's a fitness advocate and enthusiast.

So, right, and that's what happened.

We just caught him in his natural habitat.

Right.

That's all.

That's all that's going on here.

All right.

Now, do you think the reporter is concerned that at some point he may eat her?

Yes.

I'm concerned watching the video.

I'm concerned.

That she may be consumed.

She doesn't even seem to be at a safe distance, so I'm not sure if she's that prudent.

But let's start it from the beginning because this is brilliant stuff.

And here's JB on crime.

You're going to hear people, especially this past weekend.

54 shot, seven dead.

58 dead.

The city's not safe.

Would you ask your friends to ride the L after midnight or after 9 o'clock at night even to come down to the city from O'Hare?

Look, big cities have crime.

There's no doubt about it.

But let's just pay attention to what President Trump is doing targeting Chicago.

He's overlooking red states that have much higher crime rates.

Oh, my God.

This is what they always do.

This is the new talking point.

Yes.

Just deflect it.

This is a Republican state.

So Christy Noam was in a similar situation.

She was on with Ed O'Keefe.

Here's what happened there.

Except we can't hear it.

Perfect.

She was asked if they've, have you ever considered sending troops into these Republican-run cities that are equally or more

overrun with crime?

She actually said yes.

Yes, we don't care what city it is, who's running it.

If there's a massive problem,

we're going to help.

Yeah, if we discover a city at some point run by a Republican, we are going to be interested in that.

We have an archaeological dig going on right now to discover one.

We're going to have to go back a little bit.

There are a couple.

Miami is one.

Dallas is one, but that's not fair technicality.

He was elected as a Democrat, but that's the exact example that Ed O'Keefe jumps to.

Well, Dallas, Dallas.

First of all, Dallas doesn't have the crime situation Chicago does.

But secondly,

he was a Democrat when he was elected, but he switched party affiliation since.

So that doesn't really count.

But then he went to small towns in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana that might have high crime rates.

And there's some that do.

I mean, Memphis is very high and has been very high for a long time.

Is that run by a Republican?

No, sure.

Longtime, hardcore Reagan Republican

running the city.

Right.

These are, all these cities are run by Democrats.

And we we did we did I don't have the I don't have Memphis in front of me, but we did a stat in one of Glenn's books that I had to work on back in the day.

This number is a little bit old at this point.

So that was back in 09-ish.

Yeah, boom.

08, 09.

Yeah.

Was it the inconvenient book?

I think it was an inconvenient book.

You may have been arguing with idiots.

It was one of those in that period.

And the stat was basically, it was based not on crime, but on poverty.

But obviously there's a big correlation there between the highest poverty cities and the highest crime cities.

And was the number of times, percentage of time that the top 10 poverty cities had been run by Republicans.

And it was something like 6% of the time over 70 years.

Six.

Wow.

In all the cities,

most of the cities had been 100% Democrat-run the entire time we did the study.

For something like 60 years.

There's a couple that were just nonpartisan.

A lot of them were definitely Democrats, but just had nonpartisan elections.

There were a couple that had brief flirtations with Republicans over short periods of time.

Yeah.

But pretty much none that were continually run by Republicans.

Now, look, Republicans fail at stuff all the time.

This is not a situation where I'm confident that a Republican taking over a city after 100 years of progressive rule is going to be able to turn it around instantly.

We did see, we have seen examples of that.

I mean, Giuliani

did a good job.

Pretty much that, was able to turn around in

one or two terms.

That is

the outlier.

But Miami is another situation that has really improved recently with a Republican mayor.

It's kind of silly.

Pointing to the governor

is

partially part of the problem.

You can see, I think, be critical of a Republican governor that has a state that maybe they should be doing more to lock down crime in that city and maybe aren't because a Democrat mayor is running into the ground and they don't think of it as their responsibility as much.

That could be a problem.

But a place like Illinois or

California, where

Gavin Newsom loves to say, well, the crime rate here is lower than in Louisiana.

And

you can come up with the crime rate arguments if you want.

There are obviously, we've talked about it a hundred times, the arguments against that.

My favorite one was they used to say, like, Belize, the country of Belize, has one of the highest murder rates in the world.

And

that would make you not want to go.

And you look at the number and there's like one murder every week in the entire

every two weeks in the entire country.

And because of low population.

Because of low population.

It's sparse in places.

You have

wide areas of nothing.

You know, that winds up affecting the rates.

Sometimes to your advantage, sometimes to your disadvantage.

So, you know, if you have one really bad city almost always run by a Democrat, it affects the numbers.

And, you know, the areas that are run by Republicans do not have these numbers.

They don't want you to look at it at that level.

They want you to look at it at some level that serves them.

Yeah, and they're counting on the fact that you're not even going to look at it.

Yeah.

You're just going to trust them.

And, well, he said it.

It must be true.

If J.B.

Pritzker said Republicans have higher rates in their states, it must be true.

Certainly he wouldn't lie about that.

Right.

And like J.B.

Pritzker is targeting his voters that he knows must be dumb because they voted for him.

So like it's it's a kind of like a circuitous thing.

Like Gavin Newsom is targeting people that are voting for him so he knows they must be idiots and will believe anything because by definition they already voted for him.

So

it really, I mean it's

it's a great, it was a great way of going about things.

It really is.

Then you've got this dolt in Chicago, Brandon Johnson, talking about gun crime there.

Cut chance.

Chicago will continue to have a violence problem as long as red states continue to have a gun problem.

I mean, this is so stupid.

That will continue as long as this presidential administration continues to put politics.

So it's our fault in Texas that Chicago has a high murder rate because everybody buys guns here and then travels.

I mean, you know what?

I'm going to take this gun that I just bought in Dallas and I'm going to drive to Chicago and shoot somebody with it.

Well, that happens all the time.

Well, see, that's not the way it works for me, Pat.

What I do is I buy a bunch of guns here.

We're in Irving, Texas, you know, suburban Dallas.

And what I do is I go to the gun store, load up with guns, and then I go meet my friendly gang members in the middle of downtown Chicago.

And do you sell it or do you just give it to them?

You know, see, it depends.

I like to at least cover my expenses on gas and hotel rooms.

But generally speaking, I just want the violence to continue.

As I mentioned, love crime, huge fan of crime.

So that's what we do because that's either that or gang members are driving to rural Indiana, to gun stores.

Like, I would love to know.

And I've talked to several gun store owners who have never seen anything like this, but maybe you have if you're a gun store owner, you're just like, you know, we just constantly have people coming in from the most crime-ridden areas in our state.

And they come and

they cross the state lines and then they come into our state and they say, hey, load me up with guns at market price in the suburbs.

That's 100% how it goes down, Brandon.

You've nailed it.

Now, if you want to get large portions of guns at lower prices for crimes, one way you can do that is over a wide open border.

that exists in this country, or at least did until recently, thanks to Democratic leadership.

Yeah, a lot of guns do come in illegally that way.

That is one way that it happens.

It is not not common.

It is not common that you go to a gun store in the suburbs and buy guns legally and then go use them for you.

Now, you might steal them out of somebody's house.

Maybe that happens.

But it's insane to say that the legal gun system that we have in this country is what's influencing this.

It's nonsense.

It is not occurring.

Isn't it also an admission that the strict gun laws they have in Chicago don't work?

Don't work.

I mean, whatever the explanation, wherever the guns are coming from, your strict gun law is not working.

You call it an admission.

What it is, is an excuse.

Yeah.

When people, when Republicans point out, hey, you already have those gun laws, not only in your city, but also in your state.

Because it used to be like in Memphis, they would say that, right?

Like they'd say, well, you know, it's because of these

gun laws in our state.

People just go outside of Memphis and go get them.

Now, of course, that wasn't true there either, but that was the accusation.

Then we say, well, what about these blue states that have all these same guns, gun laws?

And they say, well, there, they just leave the state and go to a Republican state.

None of this is happening in any large number.

I mean, of course, it's probably happened at some point.

A few times.

Yeah, maybe.

We also know, by the way, rural white people commit murders, right?

Like, it's not just gang members, but when you talk about the average,

when you talk about these rates in the cities, it's not farmers.

You know, it's not a lot of farmers that are going into the city to commit murders.

This isn't what's going on.

Now, the media will tell you it's all white people coming into the to commit the murders because if it's all racism, but what you're seeing largely are people killing people that live nearby them that look like them.

This is the case in all circumstances, by the way.

In every group, that is the most common situation.

You usually see murders committed by people

against people who are either related to them or are friends with them or are working in their same communities.

Often people congregate who are of the same race or ethnicity.

And so typically, it's usually within those groups.

There, of course, are crossovers,

and they get all the coverage.

But typically, that's what happens.

Crime statistics have shown this forever.

And what's fascinating about their argument is, let's just take it as gospel for a second and act as if this was a real argument, a serious argument.

The argument would then be, okay, well, we need to turn off the gun laws in the United States.

Now, we went through yesterday, we played a clip of how to get rid of the the guns in the United States.

It would be very difficult.

You've got 400 million guns, it would be really hard to get them all off the streets.

But let's just say everybody just gave them up to the government for some bizarre reason.

You would then have a situation with a large desire for illegal guns inside of our country and a democratic policy that would leave the borders open for them to cross in, and we'd have the guns anyway, and only the criminals would have them.

This is their way of looking at things.

These are just excuses.

It's nonsense, but it's the way they've been running these cities for for a hundred years, and you see the results.

Well, do you remember in America when prohibition was in force?

Yeah, nobody, nobody drank out.

That's right, there was no alcohol available anywhere.

I think it'd be the same situation if you outlaw guns.

There will be no guns, no guns, just like there was no alcohol, especially in an era of prohibition when you can 3D print the guns.

Imagine if you could 3D print to the alcohol, how much alcohol there would be.

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So, with the crime going on in various cities, Democrat-run cities, Republican-run cities,

should we send?

I think the bottom line on this that I'm struggling with is should we send National Guard troops to all of these places?

There's so much unknown on this.

I mean, first of all, he doesn't really have the power to send them to all quote-unquote

all these places.

Like, I think the issue here is how it's going to happen.

There are certain limited circumstances in which he can make an impact in these cities.

Now, one of the and apparently he has in D.C.

In D.C., he 100%.

D.C.'s separate.

Throw D.C.

out to the side.

He can do what he's doing in D.C.

He's completely justified.

There's absolutely no question about it.

It worked.

And it would work in a lot of these other cities, too.

You throw enough really talented, trained law enforcement officials into a city, you're going to be able to cut crime.

There's no doubt about it.

That's an easy equation.

The issue is the legal pathway to get there.

Now, he thought he found a limited way to do it in Los Angeles.

Courts just overturned that.

We'll see what happens at the Supreme Court level on that one.

But he has a lot of challenges as to how he does it.

It has to be done right.

And that's something, look, I think the president cares about.

I think the people around him care about.

If they don't, they should.

I know I care about it.

You have to do things the right way.

It's not, you know, we always talk about this with Van Jones when he wrote, Do the ends justify the means?

They don't.

You got to do it the right way.

There might be a pathway to do something, but there are limits to that.

Back here tomorrow.

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