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We have a lot on our plate today.

I want to talk to you about what flyers were all over the campus of Georgetown over the last couple of days, the John Brown Club.

The flyers just said, hey, fascist catch, the only political group that celebrates when Nazis die.

Join our club.

They were everywhere.

I want to talk to you a little bit about this club and so much more on that.

We also have the head of ice.

He's going to be on with me in about 30 minutes.

Megan Kelly coming in in an hour.

She was filling in for Charlie Kirk yesterday in Virginia, where things I think got a little dicey, but she handled it so well.

I'm going to be joining her in Fort Worth.

I'm also filling in for Charlie Kirk in a couple of weeks at one of the universities.

And I want to share a letter to the mother that I wrote today, to the mother of yesterday's shooter of ice.

She wrote some really nasty things to some politicians about guns, gun control.

I wanted to respond to her.

We'll do that coming up in just a second.

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The Lamentations says, is it nothing to you, all ye that pass by?

Let me ask you something, and this is not something I'm just asking yourself.

This is something I've been wrestling with, not just as a broadcaster, but as a citizen, as a dad, a husband, a believer,

a man who has spent really honestly

most of my life now trying to understand the arc of history and the voice of God through all of it.

The question I've been asking

is a tough one.

Is all of this worth saving?

This thing we call Western civilization, this this project that was born in Judea, refined in in Athens, tested in Rome,

reawakened in Wittenberg,

baptized again on the shores of our own Plymouth Rock.

This is a gift that we were all handed.

We didn't earn it, we didn't purchase it, we were given it.

Do we want it?

Do we even want it?

Because if we don't want it, what are we doing?

Is it worth saving?

Because if it's not, again, what are we doing?

But if it is,

what are we doing?

All across Europe, the streets are restless, not just with protests, but with something far more ancient, and it is hatred.

The kind of hatred that once fed ovens and marched under banners with swastikas until

until now it just marches under flags that claim peace and chant and chant things about a call for genocide

more violence in the streets

we are fractured

in this country it's left versus right flesh against spirit neighbor against neighbor truth doesn't seem to have a home and even the church help us, even the church has been found slumbering or worse, collaborating with it.

We're told by everybody in our society that everything has to be reset.

Everything you learned in history was a mistake.

It's not true.

Tradition, marriage, all of it, spondage, slavery, gender, it's fiction.

Faith, that's hate.

Truth.

Hate.

And the only sin left is believing in the absolute truth.

And then when you take a breath, you look at the paper and you see that AI is rising and borders are falling.

You look inside your home and our children are confused and they're medicated and addicted and fatherless and suicidal.

The universities are mocking what little is left of Western virtue.

Our national debt can't be repaid.

Our Congress is just screwing around more and more every day, it seems.

Our elections no longer feel sacred.

Our media doesn't inform.

It just programs.

Our schools don't educate anymore.

They recondition.

They re-train.

They indoctrinate.

So I ask you again:

is any of this worth saving?

I ask you,

in all humility, in the spirit of a prophet standing before the ruins holding the ashes of his people in his hands.

That is the only question we need to answer.

Is it worth it?

Because if it's not, let's stop.

But if it is,

can we get to work?

I mean, honestly, get to work.

If it's worth saving, then we have to know why.

Why is it worth saving?

And if it's not, then may God forgive us for what we're about to allow.

So, can before we do anything in the news, can we just start with this?

Let's start with what is the West?

What is it?

You want to save Western civilization?

What is it?

Is it a location?

No.

Is it a race?

God forbid.

A flag?

A Constitution?

No.

The West is an idea.

The West was an idea to escape all of the old oppressive ideas.

It's the idea that man himself is made in the image of God and that liberty does not come from kings or government, but it is a responsibility from heaven.

That truth exists, that evil exists, and courage is required every day.

Education, self-education, not self-medication, self-education is required from each of us every day.

It's the idea that a man can speak his mind and not be silenced by a mob or a monarch.

That a child can dream and not be forced into slavery, whether that's the slavery of the body or slavery of the mind.

The West is an idea that reason and revelation walk hand in hand.

They're not at war.

That beauty matters.

That kindness matters.

That empathy matters.

That beauty matters.

That sacrifice is holy.

That justice is blind and mercy is always near.

That's what we inherited.

And that's what we squandered.

We allowed comfort to replace conviction.

We allowed entertainment to replace education, pleasure to replace purpose.

We handed screens to our children instead of our scriptures.

We forgot our story.

We forgot who we were.

We don't think it's worth fighting for because we don't know who we are anymore.

And boy, our enemies are only too too happy to write an ending for us.

If not now,

when?

When?

When will it be time to get serious?

If it's not now, when will it become time for you to say, I'm committed?

And if not you,

who

is this worth saving?

Is this worth dying for?

Oh, yes.

Yes, it is, and so much more.

It's worth living for, truly living.

It's worth saving.

And this civilization, no matter how rocky it is, whatever its sins may be, was built on the blood of martyrs and prophets and poets and pilgrims and moms and dads and soldiers.

They died for it.

They didn't die for the stock market.

They didn't die for pronouns.

Not for surveillance.

Not for centralized digital currency, surely.

They died for something higher, something bigger.

I don't believe that's lost, not yet.

Because I believe resurrection is real.

And not just in the the tomb outside of Jerusalem,

but in the bones of any group of people that return to truth.

Any group of people, any individual that returns to God, returns to honor, returns to truth, no matter how unfashionable, no matter how

no matter the cost, returns to truth with humility, asking for forgiveness from their God, from from their fellow human beings.

It's not too late

for any group of people that return to family, to community, to accountability, to self-accountability and responsibility.

It's not too late because I have to tell you,

I really strangely mean this.

What an honor it is to live at this time.

And after Charlie's death,

I feel that way even more.

We are living in historic times.

What we do now will affect the lives of generations of people all over the world.

What's happening in Europe right now, it's going to be up to us.

What's happening in South Korea,

I urge you to follow what we're finding now in South Korea.

It's happening everywhere and it will come down to us.

But we were selected at this time to live at this time.

We were made for a time such as this.

Maybe the reason you care

is because somewhere inside of you, you know that.

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We're not called to win.

All we're called to do is to stand.

Is it worth standing?

Is it worth saving?

It's still true.

The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

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If that's what you decide, buckle up.

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So I'm reading

the killer yesterday.

We're going to talk to the head of ICE here in a minute.

But the killer yesterday in Dallas that shot himself.

His mother apparently had posted a series of anti-gun rants on Facebook aimed at Republican lawmakers just a few years ago, and some of them are pretty nasty.

You know, may you be reminded of the deaths every time you spend that precious blood money you received from the gun lobby.

Yada, yada, yada.

She goes on, and she's very angry about guns.

And there are many ways we can respond.

But I wrote her a letter this morning.

I write to you with a heavy heart, reflecting on the events of yesterday at the Dallas Ice Facility, where your son, Joshua, took the lives of two migrants, wounded another, and then ended his own life.

I honestly cannot imagine the depth of your grief losing your son in such a devastating way.

We're all losing too much.

Too many children, too many friends, too many shared dreams.

I read your words just a few, from a few years ago, just this morning, expressing frustration with the gun laws and the pain caused by violence.

To me, it shows, one, a mom,

who cared deeply about the world her son was growing up in.

You asked very pointed questions of leaders, holding them accountable for the tools of violence.

And today,

with respect and with kindness, I would just ask you to reflect on similar questions for yourself.

Did the gun in your son's hand kill those people,

or was it your son's choice to pull the trigger?

Did the gun that ended his life,

was that the gun's decision or your son's decision?

And I wonder, as you grapple with your own anger towards systems and policies, whether that rage,

dare I ask, might it have shaped Joshua's path?

May it have shaped his own anger, his own ideology, his own actions?

I know you don't seem to understand, but our rights, including the Second Amendment, were born from a time when people feared unchecked power, authoritarianism, which is, I think, what you're afraid of, or your son was afraid of.

Governments that silence, oppress, decide who can live or die.

And I don't know you at all,

but I can't believe that you and I are that different in our hope that our children never face that kind of world.

We both see it on the horizon, but

at least one of us seems to recognize that it could happen from either side,

but one side is really encouraging it, fomenting the hate and the killing here.

But it's not the gun.

Never has been.

Guns have been in America's story from the very beginning.

In the 1960s, a kid, an eight-year-old, could go be sent by his father to go buy bullets without question.

But the society wasn't fractured.

And when assassination shook us then, we didn't turn to banning guns.

We turned to healing the hate.

That time period was followed by the Jesus Revolution.

It brought people together, and for a moment we found common ground again, and we need to do that.

I don't hold any anger toward you.

I really feel for you as a parent.

And I don't hold any anger on your son.

You both have paid now in an unimaginable price, caught in a tangle of of rights and responsibilities and a society struggling to find love and compassion.

But my hope is that you can find peace, forgive yourself and others, and perhaps one day work toward unity.

We have to come back to shared principles, our universal rights given not by government, but by something greater.

And together we can honor those

honor all of them, including your son, that we have lost, by building a world where love and not hate shapes our future.

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And I pray every day for God to strengthen me because

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You usually know what that is.

What is the next right thing?

How I know what it is, it's usually the thing I don't want to do, but I know is right.

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Yesterday was at this time that we were dealing right down the street from these studios

with

another active shooting.

This time it was at the Dallas ICE facility.

Todd Lyons is with us now.

He is the U.S.

Immigration and

Customs Enforcement Acting Director.

He's the head guy at ICE.

We're sorry for everything you guys are going through, Todd, and we thank you for your courage and

willingness to serve every day.

So thank you.

Let's start there.

How is it?

Thanks, I really appreciate it.

How is everybody?

You know, obviously everyone's really, you know, shaking up.

It's a hard time right now.

You know, unfortunately, there's so many threats against ICE agents and officers up over

assaults are up over 1,000%.

I've never seen anything like this in my career.

But it's not going to deter the men and women of ICE.

I can tell you, out in Dallas today, they're out there doing enforcement operations, trying to get those criminal alien fugitives.

So these kind of acts won't deter us, but it's definitely scary times.

It is.

I heard from two large

people in my business that do what I do last night.

And both of them said the same thing, unbeknownst to each other, that they were both writing me, but they were both saying the same thing.

Glenn, this is not going to stop me, but I'm afraid.

I mean,

this is getting really bad.

Every time I walk outside or I walk to

some

meeting or some

stage thing, I'm afraid somebody's going to shoot me.

And it's normal and natural, but it's those who continue to do it every day that deserve our applause and our our deep, deep thanks.

Do we have any new intelligence about the shooter?

The motives, the networks, anything?

No, so right now the FBI is doing great in their investigation.

They're going down every, following every lead, social media posts, his associates, family.

There's going to be a press conference today at 1.30 with the U.S.

Attorney down there in Dallas.

So I don't want to get too far ahead of that.

But obviously, you know, Director Patel posted that photo yesterday of the shell casings ahead, Annie Ice.

And, you know, just from, I used to serve at the Dallas Field Office after I started my career.

And just looking at the photos from the scene,

it's obvious this was an anti-ICE attack.

It was an attack on ICE law enforcement.

He indiscriminately shot all the windows on the backside of the building, the lobby doors.

You know, one thing that I think is kind of lost on a lot of it, too, is that the detainees weren't out of the vehicle.

So he didn't know who was in those vehicles.

He was just shooting at ICE vehicles.

Those detainees were shot inside the vehicles.

And I'm so proud of the men and women that were on the ground there because ICE officers and agents were actually on the fire, but they went back to that Sally port and they rescued those detainees that were in those vans and started giving aid to those three that were injured.

But yeah, just looking at from what I've seen already, this was a pure attack on ICE law enforcement and ICE mission.

How do you respond to some on the left and even those in the media on the left that are now saying that's ridiculous?

He wouldn't have put anti-ICE on the bullets that's that's the you know that's the government trying to soup this up this guy was clearly uh going after the immigrants the illegal i mean that's i mean it's just it's just i mean it's disgusting and vile to even think that you know media outlets or elected officials would want to think that or kind of spin that if you just look at the the whole scene itself and the whole situation.

It was directed at ICE.

He just didn't randomly pick that building one day.

You know the area.

He knew where it was.

And when you think about the shooting, you had I-35 right there, people going to school, going to work.

That's a high-powered rifle.

Those rounds went through the

windows, wound up inside the lobby, inside the back walls, buried in the American flag.

He could have killed so many innocent people in that area.

But he specifically chose that ICE facility.

And for anyone to think that

this wasn't targeted on ICE and ICE law enforcement officers, then they're dead wrong.

So the Trump administration is now going after Antifa as a terrorist group, thank God, finally.

But there's also groups like the Socialist Rifle Association.

We were going to talk about the John Brown Club that just

put flyers out on the campus of Georgetown University.

Hey, fascist catch, the only political group that celebrates when Nazis die, join the John Brown Club.

Can you tell me the effects you think this and what we might be able to stop by going after some of these groups?

You know, and that's, you know, we are dedicated to the president's mission on that.

You know, one component of ICE is Homeland Security

investigations.

We have some of the best special agents, criminal investigators.

We are going to track the money.

We are going to track these ringleaders, if you will, right?

I'll give you an example.

You know, we had protests this weekend in Chicago doing our Operation Midway Blitz, and you hear a lot of elected officials say

they're out there protesting, they're out there exercising their First Amendment right.

But you don't go there and truck in shields, rocks, CS grenades, tear gas grenades, right?

That isn't the First Amendment.

That right there is just domestic terrorism.

And that's what we're focused on.

We're focusing on those people that are supporting these groups, those people that are bringing in the material support.

You know, when you look at half the people that were arrested for interfering with ICE operations, they're not from the local Chicago area.

These people are coming from outside the local area who have no ties to the community.

So these are professional agitators that are being brought in to impede or hurt my officers and agents.

And we're dedicated that we're going to go out there and stop these.

And we're so happy that President Trump has made Antifa a terrorist organization because we're going to use all of our law enforcement powers to go ahead and stop these attacks.

There was a really despicable thing that came from Elon Omar.

I think it was from Elon Omar, where she said that ICE was holding a five-year-old Autistic Girl in Massachusetts to pressure the father to surrender.

NBC reported it that way.

Yesterday, NBC completely changed their story and reflected that.

Can you comment on what really happened?

Yeah,

that was just pure ignorance on that outlet's part.

That was not the case at all.

This father, who obviously isn't going to win Father of the Year, was

in a vehicle that had his daughter.

The ICE officers and agents did not know the child was in there.

They conducted a traffic stop.

He fled the car.

He fled the car and left the girl there.

Pretty much, you know, gave the ICE offices and the agents involved and the other federal partners two middle fingers and told them, you know, come get me.

And he would not leave the residence, even though we called to try to coordinate, try to negotiate.

One great thing is the local police chief just came out in the Boston Herald and totally backed our story, that our officers were great, took care of the girl, that this guy, this criminal alien, was totally in the wrong.

So it's that type of narrative that's out there, really, that's spinning up all this violence and hate.

against my brave men and women is when stories like this totally get distorted.

And most of the public, unless people like yourself or other outlets kind of report on it, would never know what the true story is.

They would always just think that ICE agents and offices are so evil that they would hold a five-year-old sister girl hostage, if you will, right, to try to arrest her dad.

You know, I saw the pictures that they finally published or before in the earlier story, it said, I surrounded this.

She was surrounded by agents who were holding her.

And then the pictures are released, and there's one guy, I don't even know if he was an ICE agent, but there was one guy kind of standing near her.

She was sitting on the bumper of a truck drinking water.

It was completely not what they tried to make it appear.

Let me play a piece of audio for you.

It came from Tuesday night and get your response.

We're talking to Todd Lyons.

He's U.S.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement Acting Director.

Listen to this.

Gavin Newsom on Stephen Colbert.

That's happening in the United States of America.

Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars.

People disappearing.

no due process, no oversight, zero accountability happening in the United States of America today.

People ask, well, is authoritarianism, you're being hyperbolic.

Bull, we're being hyperbolic.

If you're a black and brown community, it's here in this country.

And so I...

I'm deeply proud that I had the privilege of signing the nation's first bill to address the issue of masking.

Also, to require you have simple identification, to your point.

I mean, if some guy jumped out of an unmarked car in a van with a mask on, tried to grab me, I mean, by definition, you're going to push back.

And so

these are not just authoritarian tendencies.

These are authoritarian actions by an authoritarian government.

You saw what Stephen Miller said last week.

This should put chills up fine.

Called the Democratic Party an extremist organization, basically a terrorist organization.

He's just catching up with Barack Obama and what he said in 2009 about the Republicans.

Anyway, Todd,

do you have any response to that?

Yeah, and honestly, I think the governor's comments are disgusting.

Criminal, illegal aliens flock to his state because they know they can do their crimes there.

You know, he said that, and then the next day,

look what happened at the ICE facility in Dallas.

You know, he's saying that he would push back against

mass men or jump out of a van.

Well, and also he says that people don't get due process.

Every one of the individuals we arrest do get due process.

Or in the cases of the ones that have final orders of deportation from years back that they've ignored the rule of law, they had their due process, had every appeal possible, but they didn't leave the country.

Yet it's comments like that that are causing all the issues.

I truly believe the governor shouldn't have said that.

You know, to say that

people should push back and he supports pushing back against ICE, that's just totally wrong.

Why

do you have do you have ICE markings or police markings on your vest or anything?

Do you jump out of a van with no markings?

No, that would never, ever happen.

I'm very proud of my media affairs, my public affairs, and our social media team.

We always post the worst of the worst.

We always oppose what we're doing in the field.

You see our arrest videos.

The ICE agents and offices clearly marked, they have their badges on them.

They have their badge numbers.

They have what agency they work for when other federal partners are with us.

You can see clearly it's either ATF or DEA.

So it's a false narrative that's being put out there.

And I would just say to any elected official, do a little bit of homework.

I'd invite them to look at our social media page and actually see what we are doing.

Or better yet, even sit down and have a conversation with myself or other field leaders in the ground or come out and actually see one of our operations.

It's sad because they already know this.

I mean, that's the real real sad part is they know this.

He's not stupid.

He knows what's going on.

And he also knows why.

I mean, you tell me, why are ICE agents masking themselves?

Well, I can tell you this, and it's happened to me, me, my family.

ICE officers and agents get doxxed and threatened continually.

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I'm not a fan of masks.

They're not a fan of masks.

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But I will support them to make sure that they get home safe every night and that their families are safe.

Yeah, I would wonder why the governor hasn't ruled out all masks.

I mean, I see the people fighting against you all the time.

They're always masked.

Yeah, and that's, you know, that's one of my biggest frustrations is here you go, you're taking the time to write a law in a state, yet we were out there battling night after night, protesters in masks, helmets that were causing so much damage and so much violence in the city of Los Angeles, yet nothing is said about that.

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Thank you.

No, thank you so much.

I really appreciate you letting me tell the story of the brave men and women of ICE.

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You know, we have all, we were asked by Erica Kirk, could you fill in for Charlie?

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That's not what I do.

I don't.

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But anyway, she was asked some,

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It's great to be here.

How are you doing, Glenn?

I am good.

How did you do it last night?

Because I have to do it in a couple of weeks and I don't have the patience.

I don't have the patience.

I know.

I know.

I'm excited that you're you're going.

You know, it was a very interesting experience.

I did not know what to expect.

I had never done this with Charlie or otherwise, but he and I had been set to do it together at Virginia Tech.

And, you know, frankly, I wasn't sure whether Turning Point would continue forward with the tour or not, obviously given what happened.

And when they said we're doing it, of course, I said I'll be there.

And so I didn't know what to expect, especially without Charlie.

You know, when I agreed to do it originally, I was like, okay, I'll have Charlie there.

So

Glenn Young was there, too.

He was terrific.

He kind of opened up and was perfectly on message, just like a message of faith.

That guy's got such a great future ahead of him.

In any event, I went out there and the questions, Glenn, were so diverse.

I mean, one guy asked me which Star Wars trilogy was the best.

The first three are the Revenge of the Sith.

Another person asked me, would you rather be a human with a pineapple brain or a pineapple with a human brain?

And then

we started to get into, you know, politics and Trump.

And we had a couple of adversarial questions, which was fun.

And but for the most part, I would say, I'm sure it's just because it's so close to Charlie's death.

It was students who loved him, students who wanted to hear more of his kind of messaging, and students who wanted to be reassured about their own future, the future of the turning point movement, and of course, how to handle far leftism all over their college campus.

So do you think,

do you think this is kind of a setup?

I mean, I think, you know, 10 days after the shooting of Charlie Kirk, that was the left on their best behavior.

And it wasn't good behavior, but it was better than what I think is now happening and what is coming.

And, you know, I've been talking about what's happening in South Korea, and it looks like something we should really pay attention to because it looks like the...

It looks like the playbook they're going for caused so much chaos that the government has to respond.

And when you're causing the chaos, keep saying they're authoritarians, they're fascists, they're going to lock everything down.

And when there's no choice but to lock it down, then they say, see, and then the whole thing is on fire.

Where do we go from here?

What has changed?

What's going back to normal?

What is normal now when it comes to this kind of stuff?

I mean, I want to preface my remarks by saying, like you, I imagine, I'm in sort of a weird place mentally still

after the Charlie assassination.

And

I think the kids call it based.

Others might call it radicalized.

But I just have a pretty clear and strong view of what our side needs to do next.

I'm not sure about the left, and I'm not even sure I care to spend much time thinking about them.

I really feel more strongly than ever that I don't care what they call us, we need to make them suffer,

not physically, but with lawfare and even with some censorship in order to get things back to normal.

What's the line on that?

What's the line on that?

So we do need people to have actually committed crimes in order to go after them.

We cannot have, I was not a fan of the President Trump tweet at Pam Bondi or whether that was a DM or whatever.

If Pam Bondi doesn't find actual crime, she should not indict anybody.

But if she finds crimes, our days of looking the other way are done.

Our days of being benevolent, our saying, oh, to heal the nation, we're not going to indict Hillary Clinton.

No.

Agree.

No, no.

We've got to get tough.

Yeah.

And I think I'm in the minority, but I'm totally in favor of what Brendan Carr did last week.

100% in favor.

So I am too.

And I felt I was alone.

I am too.

Good.

Glenn, they have to feel our pain.

Why, whenever we're in control, do we take the high ground only to get beaten to a pulp again once they're back in control?

And we continue to say, oh, these are our principles.

We really, we're going to live them in order to make clear to everybody we really hold them.

And then they just get used against us.

Well,

I don't mind.

You know what?

Now we've had a whole week of these leftists saying the things we say about censorship and big government and free speech.

And at least now we have them on record and they learned.

So when they use it against us, the next time they're in power, we've got the receipts.

I'm just not going to, I'm not going to change my principles, but I am not going to play by the rules that they're not playing by.

You're not going to not play by the rules and then say to me, you got to play by the rules.

Screw you.

Screw you.

I'm going to play by the rules, but I'm going to use every rule we have to shut your nonsense down.

Amen.

I couldn't agree more.

It's about tactics.

You and I haven't moved at all on our principles.

We hate lawfare.

We hate government censorship.

We don't believe hate speech is problematic.

It's perfectly legal.

It's constitutional.

It's kind of why the First Amendment was invented.

Yes.

However, it's the left that's drifted from those principles, not us.

And now the question is, how do we wrestle the country back to stasis, back to the old stasis, prior to the left losing its mind?

And I am really just firmly of the belief now that they must be brought to heal.

Again, not with physical violence, but with the same tactics in terms of policy and approach in governing that they use against us.

I see that as very clearly the only way forward.

I just can't take it.

I just can't take the, you you know, the, you know, they did everything they could to destroy me.

They did everything they could to destroy you.

I mean, it's a long line of all of us that they've done.

And then they get a little boo-boo on their knee for five days.

And all of a sudden, you know, Hitler is in office.

Oh, wow.

You had to sit at home making your $30 million for five days.

Oh, that sucks.

Oh, Jimmy Kimmel picturing his life not under the Klieg lights, Glenn.

He couldn't take it.

And those tears out on that stage were for him.

What a joke, that crying, whining baby.

He has celebrated everyone on the rights cancellation.

He danced on our professional graves.

And he has the nerve to want us to feel sorry for him because he had a five-day paid vacation.

We don't.

Yeah.

Where is he with Roseanne?

Where was he on Roseanne?

Nowhere.

Absolutely nowhere.

And they took her show away.

They destroyed her.

Okay.

Destroyed Roseanne.

And people defended Jimmy by saying he's a comedian.

So's Roseanne.

Yeah, I know.

No one defended her.

None of them.

Nobody.

Let me take my situation because it happens to be apt here.

When I got canceled at NBC for literally asking a question about blackface Halloween costumes and when it went, well, why when I grew up in the 70s and 80s, you could wear those, like if you wanted to honor Diana Ross or Michael Jordan and not get canceled.

But clearly in the 2000s, things had changed.

And

that was my question.

I I got me canceled, NBC.

Did Jimmy Kimmel at the time come out and say, you know what, this is BS?

I've got to admit, I wore blackface many times.

Jimmy did, not me.

That I've worn it repeatedly at Carl Malone.

I wore it as Oprah in a fat suit, darning socks.

When I was Carl Malone, I basically spoke in Ebonics, mocking black people.

So this is wrong, what you're doing to her, NBC.

I don't support this.

He didn't say a word.

He let me twist in the wind.

Why should any of us feel sorry for him?

He's totally pro the cancellation of anybody whose politics he doesn't share.

So I'm thrilled he felt some pain last week.

His show is inflated now because of the controversy, but it will go back to its middling ratings.

And then ABC will almost certainly cancel it.

But now they've got to put a little distance between today and that day.

Let me talk about your tour because

you invited me to come out on your tour on Saturday, October 25th at the Dickie's Arena in Fort Worth.

What are you doing on your tour?

So I went on Tucker Carlson's tour as a guest last fall.

I loved it.

I had never done that before.

It was so fun, Glenn.

And that tour promoter was like, you should do this.

I'm like, you know what?

I should do this.

I don't get out enough.

And I was so energized, like seeing our viewers and our fans and our listeners out there.

It was just good for the soul.

So that's what made me do it.

And it's just a 10-city tour.

It's not huge.

It could have been double that.

And I was like, I don't have the energy and I'm a mom and that's too much for me.

But 10 I could do.

So we picked some of our top cities and got some of our top people like you.

And we're just going to go out and we're going to tape.

It's basically we're going to tape an episode, but we're going to put a bunch of, you know, bells and whistles around it and make it, I hope, super fun, intellectually stimulating.

you know, rowdy, and just a good time for the audience to come out and have a moment of levity and celebration.

Yeah, I will tell you, I think this is what I enjoyed about the Tucker Tour, and I think it's going to be even more so with yours, is it just felt good to be in a group of a lot of people where you could relax and you could just be yourself and

just enjoy company of other people that, you know, think like you do without all of the hatred and everything else.

Just enjoy yourselves.

Oh,

so true, Glenn.

It reminds me in 2012, I was at the Republican National Convention, and I was a straight news person at the time, so I wasn't wearing my politics on my sleeve.

But Ann Coulter walked into one of the back rooms where the Fox people were all getting ready, and I said, how you doing, Ann?

And she said, I'm great.

I'm in a sea of Republicans.

I

totally got it and get it even more so today.

Yeah, same.

Megan,

what was your takeaway from the weekend?

We were both there

in Phoenix.

What is the lasting, is it lasting, what is the lasting thing you take away from all of this?

If there's two words I remember from that day that'll stay with me, they are Charlie's army.

That phrase really grabbed me.

And I do think that's what's been unleashed.

These kids on these college campuses, the applications are up to, I think Andrew Colvett said 122,000 now?

That's crazy.

122,000 turning point chapters.

There were 2,000 the day Charlie died.

Two.

I mean, I didn't know that.

That's crazy.

Yes, there were, I think, 900 college campuses and 1,100 high schools.

And now we're up to 122,000.

It's crazy how many young people feel motivated to say, these are my values, and I'm no longer going to hide them or apologize for them that's a sea change you know I just think Charlie's army will be a lasting legacy of Charlie Kirk he said he wanted turning point to outlive him

thought it would happen this soon but he would be so proud and I also think you know like Frank Turek who spoke at the funeral he actually came on last week on last Friday and he said if you and he's a man of faith and he argues Catholic doctrine very effectively and was one of Charlie's mentors on it, on Christian doctrine.

And

he said, if you went to Charlie and said, Charlie,

you're going to have to make this sacrifice.

It's going to be incredibly painful for Erica and your children and your dearest friends and family.

But you are going to inspire a whole generation of

new evangelists, of new people of faith, of new Republican voters, of new and outspoken conservatives on campus.

Your life's work has been achieved at age 31.

He said, Charlie would have said, sign me up.

And I believe that, Glenn.

I do too.

That was my takeaway from the weekend.

I do too.

How do we get tickets to your tour?

Just go to megankelly.com.

Megan with a Y, and MEGYN, because Linda did not know how to spell.

Megan, I look at you and everybody that does what you do in a different way since Charlie's death.

I kind of look at you as a firefighter.

You're putting your boots on and you're running into the burning building, not away from it.

And I have a tremendous amount of respect for you.

So God be with you.

Stay safe.

Back at you, my friend.

Much love.

You bet.

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And I'm going to be there.

I mean,

I have no idea.

It can usually go awry.

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So join us, Megan and I.

It'll be a blast.

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Yeah.

You know, it's, I'm really happy about that change.

You know, it's like she was great when she did that.

She's a powerhouse.

But like, it's, I really like having someone like her on her side.

That is something I've grown to appreciate quite a bit.

Yeah.

Um, and uh, there's some real, I mean, Stu, you remember

we were looking for brave people, we've been looking for a very long time for brave people who will actually stand up and say it out loud.

Uh, that's not the case anymore.

There's a lot, There's a lot.

And they're very good.

It's impressive.

And I think it's easy.

You raised your standards, America.

Congratulations.

Yeah, that's good.

Congratulations.

That's good.

Can I ask, can I follow up on a question a moment in that interview, though?

You were talking about the Jimmy Kimmel thing, and she described kind of going after people with law affair and things like that, and the Jimmy Kimmel thing specifically.

And you said,

I 100% agree.

I 100% agree with what I understood her to say about Brandon Carr.

I think Brandon Carr last week was right.

He was saying, I'm not changing the rules.

I am allowing local stations to make the local decision.

They have to make the local decision.

If they don't want to carry the show because it's because the FCC, the whole thing is community standards.

You have to hit community standards.

Well, which community?

Yeah, but.

Los Angeles?

New York?

Right.

Well, first of all,

I think many would argue he went farther than that by saying, you know,

we could do this the easy way or the hard way, right?

That wasn't just, hey, local decisions

channels make a decision on your own.

That was the FCC is going to get involved.

And he kind of stated that multiple times.

Yeah, I know.

But how I interpreted it was

making sure that local standards matter and local stations can make their own decisions and calls because they're the ones that hold the license.

They're not going to be dictated to by a network.

Right.

And that is certainly true,

mostly, although there's agreements, and I know we've talked about this a little bit off the air, but there are agreements that these stations, these carriers sign that require them to do all the things.

And they have to do whatever their contract, whatever they sign, they've got to live up to that.

But I think, too,

100%

seems to think you want to keep these powers in place.

And I don't know.

No, no, I would.

Okay, good.

Good point.

Thank you.

I'd like to abolish the FCC.

I'd like to abolish all of these regulatory agencies.

Abolish them because they are nothing but tools in the hands of

greedy, small little people

that only want control over your life.

And I want them all abolished.

But that's, you know,

that's going to happen.

Yeah, that's going to happen.

But that's what we should be striving for.

It would be interesting to

I haven't really seen too much of an appetite for this, but to just propose these things, make the left say no.

You know,

like someone like Rand Paul, who 100% believes in getting rid of the FCC, I'm sure of it.

I'm certain of it.

You know, probably Ted Cruz as well, putting a proposal forward and daring the Democrats to vote against it as they're talking about the worst censorship in U.S.

history.

Let's get rid of it.

But vote against it.

Yeah, they won't.

They won't.

And that would expose them and i would love to

that get that i would love to do that because what they want to do is complain about it and then have the tool that's what this is where i disagreed i said wait a minute where's the line you know i i i don't want us to put new tools in or dust off tools that you're using uh

for with your own interpretation.

Right.

Because they will use it.

I'm just not going to have the tools in the box that are legal.

And they go, you know what?

No, I'm going to be better than that.

No, I'm sorry.

I'm going to use them to shut you down.

With that said, I'd love to abolish all of the rules.

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I saw J.K.

Rowling say something the other day.

She gave a couple of definitions, and I wanted to add to it.

She said, if you believe that free speech is for you, but not your political opponents, you're a liberal.

If

no contrary evidence

could change your belief, you're a fundamentalist.

If you believe the state should punish those with contrary views, you are a totalitarian.

If you believe political opponents should be punished with violence or death, you are a terrorist.

I think those are pretty clear definitions that we should all kind of hang our hat on.

If you can't agree with those things, if free speech is for you, but not others who disagree,

you don't believe in liberal principles.

And I mean that.

Yeah, that's the thing.

The only thing I would say when you say clarity, illiberal is a term in academic circles, people are very, you know, familiar with.

But you're

not truly for freedom.

Right.

If, you know, if nothing will change your mind, nothing will change your mind, then you are a fundamentalist.

Period.

So clear.

State should punish those with contrary views.

That's totalitarianism.

Political opponents should be punished.

with violence or death.

That's a terrorist.

Those are easy.

However,

if you believe every man, no matter their color, their station, their creed, their religion, they have the same right as every other man and woman, and all of the responsibilities that come with those rights, such as standing up to defend others with whom you disagree, you're open to other points of view, you're willing to change your mind if the evidence or truth is shown to you,

then I think that makes you an American.

And the best thing about being free and being an American and about life, the way it actually works, is you get to choose.

Those are the definitions.

You get to choose which one are those?

Which one are you?

Which one?

You know, so many people don't think they have a choice, but they do.

Every day you have a choice.

Every day you can reset.

You know, your body completely changes.

Every cell changes like every seven years.

You're a completely new body every seven years.

You can change change your thinking and change your life so quickly.

I have seen it.

I've done it myself.

I've seen it happen.

I've seen what Charlie Kirk chose to do.

I saw him when he was young.

He chose, he didn't go to college.

He wasn't indoctrinated.

He chose to study every day.

He chose what he wanted to learn and who he wanted to be.

And look at how he, because he applied himself, relentlessly every day.

That's a huge commitment.

Look at who he turned into.

Why can't you do that?

Why can't I do that?

The answer is, you can.

I can.

You can.

Change or choose your thinking and change your life.

What kind of society do you want to live in?

Do you want to live in a peaceful, law-abiding, free society?

If you do, then you have to choose the thoughts in your own life every day that will create that society

and by saying you don't have a right to speak and I do if I disagree with you you should be killed you're not creating that your thoughts are out of line and that's really what's happening because there's a there is and is truly mental illness it is truly mental illness let me speak to those women who are chugging Tylenol because of science

you're not doing it because of science you did it as performance.

You did it to mock, to score points.

But the point you're making is not the point you think you're making

because you most likely were one of the people that were demanding lockdowns.

You insisted that we listen to the studies and we trust the experts even when the experts didn't know their butt from their elbow, when the experts continued to contradict themselves every week.

You said, No, if you question this, you're killing children and grandparents, and you demanded compliance.

But now, the same class of officials in exactly the same roles

say, Perhaps you should use caution with Tylenol in pregnancy.

Not a ban, not a mandate, just you should use caution.

And suddenly, it's like Adolf Hitler is telling you that you can never have a baby.

I mean, it is, what?

Do you see any contradiction in your actions here?

Same roles, just different scientists.

Same roles.

What we said was, I don't want to listen to those.

I see what they're saying, but I disagree with that.

Then they come out.

These new ones come out after you say, no, no, no, you should be, you shouldn't even be treated, Glenn Beck.

If you go into a hospital, you shouldn't even be treated like a human being should be treated because you didn't follow the rules.

So you're out.

I'm saying this is a suggestion from the same people in the same roles, but now you don't like it.

And should we treat you in the hospital if you're going in and something's happening with your baby because you took too much Tylenol?

Of course, of course we should treat you.

Of course we should.

This isn't principle on when you're gobbling the Tylenol on this,

don't you see the contradiction here?

It's not principle.

It's not science.

It's just for you, it's all about power.

When your side rules, then it's okay.

You can tell everybody you can't defy it.

But if somebody else rules,

you can defy it.

That's not integrity.

That's hypocrisy.

And hypocrisy...

erodes so much more than trust.

It feeds chaos.

And look around you.

Look around you.

As you're gobbling the Tylenol, look around you.

Assassins are coming out from the shadows, acts of violence that make no sense.

No sense.

People being pushed out of reason into madness, a society that is truly unraveling at the edges.

We've seen this before.

We saw this in Rome, final century.

Politics became a blood sport.

People were cheering on other humans being eaten by lions.

It was a blood sport.

The Senate no longer debated things, not in reason.

It was just mobs in the streets.

Daggers settled arguments when words couldn't.

That's where we're headed.

Weimar Germany, neighbors

turned into enemies.

Neighbors did.

Hypocrisy turned into absolute fury.

And eventually, total collapse.

1850s, same here in America.

Rage,

people calling each other all kinds of things.

And then we had Civil War.

And you're still fighting the same civil war.

Was it about states' rights or was it about slavery?

Come on, man.

It's not that hard.

It's not that hard.

Let me ask you,

for those who are chugging the Tylenol, how far away are you from that breaking point?

Because you seem very close.

From mockery to madness is not a long road.

It's not.

How much hate, how much hypocrisy does it take to nudge you into one more step to violence?

A week?

A year?

One spark?

I don't know.

You may not think that you would do that.

But did you think you would be gobbling Tylenol

to make a political point ever?

Would you ever have thought, oh, I'm going to be really proud someday.

I'm just going to go on an unhinged rant and just take fistfuls of Tylenol because they said that you should be cautious with it.

Where is the logic in that?

So don't tell me you can't get there because look where you are.

The truth is only humility is going to fix this.

You got to, and we all have to do it.

I was wrong to demand obedience then.

I'm wrong to mock caution

now.

You have to be willing to stand on principle

freedom requires consistency and honesty and that's the only thing that will reverse this spiral

man are you a pawn in a performance

you're a woman just trapped in tribal rage what is that

become a citizen become a human again become somebody who listens weighs reasons chooses chooses for yourself stop listening to the mass stop listening it don't if you're listening to me and you're like you know what, everything he says is right, you're a moron.

Form your own opinions.

Go do your own homework.

Study yourself.

These are my opinions.

I own these opinions.

What's yours?

If we don't start doing that, then history tells us exactly what comes next.

And I promise none of us want to live through that.

And by the way,

I don't know if you've heard.

We have Jay Bhattacharya on with us next hour.

We're going to talk about this Tylenol thing.

Did you hear about the woman who was making the point with Tylenol?

She's now in the hospital, overdose.

We hope she's okay.

Maybe we'll have an update next hour.

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Have you seen the latest trend

for

adults under stress?

And when I say adults, I alcohol.

I would like.

No, that's that would be an adult thing to do.

That would be an adult thing to do.

Yeah.

Pacifiers.

Oh,

really?

Adult pacifiers.

Some of them as expensive as $70.

Really?

Yeah.

And adults, again, air quotes, adults are saying it gets them through the day

because it just gives them the comfort of being a child.

You know what?

Grow up.

You're not a child anymore.

You're not a child.

I know it might have seemed like a great thing to be a child when everyone else was bearing the burden for you.

You know, on my childhood, I just remember childhood was so easy.

Yes, because mom and dad were paying for everything.

Mom and dad protected you from everything that you saw, everything that was bad out there.

Of course, childhood was sweet.

You don't have mom and dad taking care of it.

You're supposed to be doing that for somebody else now.

It's called adulthood.

Grow up.

Well,

another additional point

on this front.

Let me give you a quiz.

It's going to be a tough one.

Okay.

Which stock has risen the most since COVID?

Okay.

Choice number one: Microsoft.

Choice number two, Nvidia.

Choice number three, Palantir.

Choice number four,

Build-A-Bear Workshops.

You've got to be kidding me.

Please don't tell me it's Build-A-Bear workshop.

Build-a-bear by a mile.

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And they say one of the big reasons is now 40% of their business, 40% of their business are adults by themselves.

40 percent of their business are adults coming in and doing Build-A-Bear by themselves with no children.

I don't know what that is.

I gotta tell you, I mean, we've had a political assassination, and even I found hope after that.

I don't know if I can find hope after that.

I don't.

I don't know.

I don't know.

40% of the people in Build-A-Bear, you're pathetic.

You're pathetic.

Life is hard.

It's really, really, really hard.

Being an adult is really hard.

You know,

my son was like, dad, it's so hard.

And I'm like, cry me a river.

Cry me a river.

Yeah, that's what it's like, son.

That's what it's like.

And, you know,

you just need to understand mommy and daddy have done their job and we did the best we could and we probably screwed a lot of things up and you know what don't be so high and mighty because you're going to do it to your kids and maybe in completely different ways maybe exactly the same way but you're going to do it too it is the story of life and then you grow up and you have to be there for other people

You're not a baby.

You're not, you want to be in a little crib with a pacifier?

Then you know what?

We need to institutionalize you.

You're a little baby.

You owe my teddy bear.

What is wrong with you?

Any man, any man that has a pacifier or a teddy bear,

I'm not going to object with you being in the girls' restroom.

I'm not going to do it.

You got a pacifier and a teddy bear?

That's probably where you belong.

Throw a set.

Please don't tempt.

Don't tempt.

Throw a set, man.

Grow a set.

Grow up.

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There's a lot to talk about.

I just told you about a nurse that

a woman,

this story is being told by a nurse, woman that decided to make fun of Donald Trump and just

gobble down handfuls of Tylenol just to show how stupid the president was.

She was pregnant.

She was taken by ambulance to the hospital.

They don't know if she's going to make it.

She's on a ventilator now.

Now, if I would like to be like the people that she, I have a feeling, was during COVID,

I mean, you know, got to follow the rules, got to follow the rules until you don't agree with the people who are making the rules, and then you sound like us and you're like,

why should I have to follow those rules?

I don't think that's true.

But she went the step further.

She decided just to prove Donald Trump an idiot.

She takes those and now she's on a ventilator.

And if I may just say what she probably would have said during COVID, why are we using that ventilator on somebody who didn't understand the rules?

Why not save that ventilator for somebody?

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See how nuts the world is getting?

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All right, Stu, what do we have as the latest on the shooter?

We have an update from Cash Patel,

who has gone through a bunch of different things.

He

says they're in process.

They're looking at all the writings.

They are

offering...

timely updates as promised.

Here's what they offer.

The PERP downloaded a document titled Dallas County Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, containing a list of DHS facilities.

He conducted multiple searches of ballistics and the Charlie Kirk shot video between 9-23 and 9-24, which is a couple days, the day leading up to the actual shooting.

Did you actually see that shot video?

The Charlie one?

Yeah.

Unfortunately, I did.

I had initially had seen a I try to avoid all these things, I know you know.

I had initially seen one from quite a distance, and I was, you know, there was hope in my heart for some good outcome.

And then someone had posted, you know, again, I wasn't looking for it.

It just was in my feet, and I saw it.

I saw it once, and the second I saw it, I was like, there's just no way.

It just doesn't seem possible he could have survived that.

But I saw it once, and I never want to see it again.

Never want to see it again.

And it still sort of haunts me to the moment.

I really wish I hadn't seen it.

But it was immediately, I knew only a miracle could save him after something like that.

It was awful.

Well, this kid was searching for that and watching it over and over again.

What do you think that's going to do to you?

Between 8.19 and 8.24, he searched apps that tracked the presence of ICE agents.

This is an interesting development that's happened on the left.

And they say, we should play the Gavin Newsom thing maybe later on again this hour because I'm so fascinated by it.

But like, this is what the left is doing.

They're saying there's unmasked

or masked people in unmarked vans pulling up, disappearing people, making them go away forever with no due process and no monitoring.

And so that type of activity, what people like Gavin Newsom have done, have put the left into action to make things like apps that track where ICE agents go, where they're spotted, where they're seen.

These people who are fathers and husbands that would love to go home to their kids at night, but now are being targeted.

Now, what's happening here is he was searching for those to try to identify, allegedly, people for him to kill.

And so we now

have that as

a known fact, at least according to Cash Patel.

One of the handwritten notes he recovered read, quote, hopefully this will give ICE agents real terror to think, is there a sniper with rounds on that roof?

Further accumulated evidence at this point indicates a high degree of

pre-attack planning, excuse me.

So

the idea that this is some sort of right-winger is nonsense.

The idea that it is some sort of gamer culture edgelord is,

you know, again, I think that's possibly part of it, but clearly this person came at it with an agenda very close to the one expressed by Gavin Newsom on a talk show last night, right?

Like it is a left-wing agenda.

Aaron Powell, Jr.: And his mother seems pretty angry.

I mean, his mother has a history of writing things about the government that are very, very lefty and very angry.

Now, I know the rules, Glenn, are pretty clear, right?

We look at the parental posts and we assign those exact politics to the kids, right?

That's the way we do this?

That's the way we did it after the Charlie Kirk thing.

So I assume that's still in place.

It's only been a couple of weeks.

No, we didn't do that.

Oh.

You know, and they're not going to do it this time.

Oh, this time it doesn't apply.

But it doesn't apply to us this time either, just like it didn't with Charlie Kirk.

You don't,

you know, you can say that

you can ask the question, was there any influence there?

If the home is

angry and is anti-government,

but you don't know.

Yeah, I agree.

And

was there any influence in that?

I don't know.

I don't know.

But the other posts who, which I agree, were angry, had nothing to do with looking like anything like this.

It was

more normal left-wing politics.

It was not anything to do with this.

And I really hesitate to put any, it's really difficult to know at this point.

Yeah, and I but I don't, I'm not, you're not guilty for the sins of your children.

Nope.

And they're not guilty for the sins of the father.

Right.

That's not the way we do things.

But to try to understand our society.

You know, because I will tell you that he was influenced by something.

He didn't come out this way.

You know, come right out of the womb.

He's like six years old.

Like, I want to kill ICE officers.

It's not happening.

No.

So what were the influences?

I'm also disturbed.

He came out of the womb at six years old.

Wow.

Why?

That's really disturbing.

I think it's a good thing.

Why mom was really angry.

Did mom take too much Tylenol?

Is that what happened there?

I don't know.

I don't know.

But yeah, I think you're right.

Like, clearly, we don't blame the parents for

the parents.

Most of the time.

I mean, there are some exceptions to that, like abusive relationships.

But there's no evidence at this point of anything like that.

Any parent that is a parent of a child today, you are in such uncharted waters.

You are fighting for your life.

Everything that you thought you knew is no longer true.

Actually, it is, but you're being told it's not true.

You're being told that your kids could commit suicide if you disagree.

And, you know, whatever.

All the things that are going on.

To raise a child today is the hardest thing I've ever tried to do.

And

to make it out with your children intact is, I mean, that's quite an accomplishment.

Your children, you lose them because

of whatever.

You know, you're not alone.

And I have to tell you, I wrote a letter to this mom.

I read it on the air earlier today.

I really feel for the mom and dad in

Utah, and I feel for the mom in this shooter.

I really do.

They lost somebody too.

And if you're a normal human being,

you are automatically saying, what did we do wrong?

How did we miss this?

Yeah.

Now,

she was very anti-gun.

So I can tell you right now, she most likely is saying, how did I miss this?

I'm anti-gun.

My son just goes out and shoots people with a gun.

He becomes the kid.

Now, maybe she's still blaming the gun.

I don't know.

I don't know.

But I can guarantee you, they're questioning themselves, and that's hell.

To lose a child, I think would be the worst thing that could possibly happen to you.

Beyond that, to lose a child like that,

you'd be like, What did I do?

And you'd carry that the rest of your life.

And we've seen

liberal parents and conservative parents with the Charlie Kirk shooter go through this, right?

Like, it's not, it's not a, that, that is unfortunately not a partisan thing.

It's got nothing to do with it.

I will say one thing that she had posted, you read some of her stuff earlier.

And this is, I don't know what this means exactly, but I had this thought multiple times, and I've had it multiple times as I go online since the Charlie Kirk thing, which is there's a little genre of normal, normalized internet posting about politics that we do.

Both sides do it.

It has, it is essentially what she did in her post about the guns, which was, Greg Abbott, there's been all these murders and deaths in our, in our, uh, in our state, and you will not step up and

you know, stop the guns.

Right, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Normal left-wing point on guns.

But it went into something to the effect of, I'm not quoting directly, but it was something to the effect of, my, my hope is, I pray that you feel the pain and the blood on your hands for everything that you have done.

And, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And, and that is super common.

I don't think that's it.

And super normal.

It's super normal.

But I really think we should try to make it abnormal.

Don't, if you might, you might have done this.

We all might have done this at some point, but like

bringing on whatever you're bringing on, when you say, I pray you feel blood on your hands, is not something you want to call into reality.

Into reality.

Whether you believe, whatever the higher power is you believe in, whatever that is.

You know, I see a lot of that type of stuff, and I don't know exactly how it works, but I don't want to find out.

I don't want to call that out and say, I pray.

I hope you feel what you have done.

Like, I don't know, man.

It's like, that is the type of stuff that I don't want to bring into my world if I can at all avoid it.

So I would recommend against that particular practice.

There's today's Mojo recommendation

from Stu.

I agree with you 100%.

It

goes back to what I was talking about earlier.

Choosing your thoughts.

Be careful the thoughts you think.

You know, we have, I can't remember, it's some ungodly,

like 80,000 advertisements you see.

You have like 80,000 impressions of an ad or a logo or something every day.

80,000.

What?

How?

You're seeing it all the time.

You just don't know it.

The thoughts that you have, they're all creative, all of them.

Whatever it is you're thinking, it's going to create.

When you're like wishing ill on people,

they may never have the ill on them, but it will manifest itself in your life.

It's a poison.

It's a poison.

And we have to start thinking about things more in those terms.

This is, you know,

This is a spiritual battle.

Yeah.

And it's about what you intake too.

Let me let me throw another thing by you because there's a there was a big piece that came out uh from somebody on the left basically trying to say this isn't a left-wing killer right and the theory is not in this case it was a right-wing killer like that's not really even being attempted but what they're trying to do is this is a gamer culture got the issue he's on discord all the time they went through his like gameplay numbers like you could go and view how much he's played one game he had played something like 3500 hours

hours 3,500 hours, another one 1,500 hours, another one 1,000 hours, all shooters.

And I am not of the view that, generally speaking, video games cause these things.

I don't think, even violent video games, I don't think the evidence is particularly strong in that realm.

But what crossed my mind watch looking and reading those numbers was

forget what the thing is.

Anything you immerse yourself in for that much time is bound to change you in one way or the other.

And, you know,

thousands and thousands of hours.

It's food.

Every thought, every image is food.

That's the way your brain looks at it.

Feed me, feed me, Seymour.

Feed me.

What are you going to feed me?

What are you looking at?

What are you thinking?

Feed me, feed me, feed me, feed me.

So you're feeding it all the time.

And we feed it garbage all the time.

And then we wonder why we have garbage coming coming out of our heads because that's what we're feeding it.

You know, I go back to Charlie again.

Look at what he was feeding his brain with.

He was feeding with the classics and Plato and Cicero and

Jesus.

Constantly.

Constantly feeding.

How many courses did he finish at Hillsdale?

19.

19.

19 different courses.

19 different courses.

On his own.

They didn't even know he was doing it.

On his own, he just completed it.

And look at the product that came out of that.

You know, and you can sit and you can whine, and I do it all the time too.

Sit and whine and go, Oh,

I don't want to do all that.

I'm going to change.

I'm going to change.

And then you don't do it.

You know,

you got to do it.

You just have to do it.

You know, the best thing you can do is just start feeding yourself new food.

Feed yourself different music,

uplifting music.

Feed yourself, you know, uplifting art and entertainment.

Don't get bogged down into all of the darkness.

Don't feed your brain and your soul differently and watch how different your life will be.

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Do you know who John Brown was?

You remember that name?

You probably remember, you might remember it because I can guarantee it was a name and a date you were supposed to remember.

Because write this down, kids.

John Brown's going to be on the test.

He was a very famous abolitionist,

he and his sons

fought hard against, you know, slavery.

So he's got to be noble, right?

No, no, no.

And then he just started shooting people.

And he became a terrorist.

And he was arrested.

And the country fought for a little while.

Is he right?

Is he wrong?

He set the movement back.

But he was wrong.

He was a terrorist.

Just if you don't get your way, start killing people.

That's not the way to solve it.

That's the exact opposite of how things are solved.

Martin Luther King, Gandhi, Abraham Lincoln.

That's the opposite of way to solve things.

Well, they're now bringing his name back for for the John Brown Club.

And what the John Brown Club advocates is for violent resistance.

They no longer think that,

well, let me just read it from their own form.

We're building a community that's done with ceremonial resistance and strongly worded letters.

If you want to make a real change in your community,

let us now.

Something below.

I don't know what that means.

John Brown Club formed in Topeka, Kansas in 2002.

Chapters have emerged across the nations now.

I'm sure,

I am sure

they are going to be looked into now.

According to its social media accounts, it's unclear if it's connected to the group that posted the flyers at Georgetown.

Chapter's X account was active.

Two months earlier, it doxed several Maryland residents protesting outside of a drag queen story hour in Silver Spring.

It also leveled threats at the Supreme Court,

writing, the Supreme Court justices should know

no moment of comfort.

Have you heard that before from some of our sitting senators and congressmen?

Don't ever let them up.

They should never know peace.

They should know that they can't go into any place and be safe.

Like other John Brown Club chapters, D.C.

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At one point, tweeting, no one needs an AR-15 is an interesting thing to say in a country full of fascists.

They also were

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Robinson confessed to murdering Kirk in Texans to his transgender roommate and romantic partner.

And let's not forget,

a man who attempted to kill Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh.

now goes by the name Sophie.

So what are the connections here?

We don't know, but hopefully the government will be looking in to the John Brown Club as well.

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Jay Bhattacharya, next.

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The world has gone insane,

and people are now just swallowing handfuls of Tylenol just to, I guess, prove Donald Trump wrong or what.

I don't know what it is.

It's just a lack of sanity.

I think we have one person now in the hospital.

She was making one of these videos.

She was pregnant.

She swallowed a handful, and

now she's on a ventilator.

You know,

Tylenol, we all know this.

It's good for you to some degree, too much, and it's really, really bad for you.

And I don't understand.

I do not believe that

the

NIH director was ever saying, you know, it's bad, it's evil, and you can't ever take it.

No, it was a recommendation, and we can find out now because Dr.

Jay Bhattacharya is with us now.

Doctor, how are you, sir?

I'm good, Glenn.

So good to be on the show with you.

Really honored by the invitation.

Oh, Oh, you're doing a fabulous job.

You really are, and I can't thank you enough.

Can you please sort through this madness on Tylenol?

So, first of all, what you started with, it's absolutely heartbreaking.

If you're listening,

don't overdose.

Don't take too much Tylenol.

I mean, it's well known to cause liver toxicities if you overdose.

You know, if you're not pregnant and you have a headache or you have a fever,

it's fine.

Just take it at the right dose.

Don't overdo it.

And certainly don't overdo it to make some ridiculous political point.

It's just heartbreaking to hear that story of someone

whose liver failed because of some crazy politics.

The key thing that we found

that led to the announcement is that there's been a whole sort of range of research in recent years that establishes that there's this association between taking Tylenol late in pregnancy and subsequent neurodevelopmental conditions like autism,

ADHD.

There's a big fight in the literature over how strong that association is.

So some people think it's really strong and other people think it's less strong.

In my review of the literature, I thought that

there's enough there to tell people,

especially pregnant women, to be careful with it.

If you have a high fever and there's no other way to manage it, then yeah, you should, with the advice of your doctor, take some so that you can manage the fever, which itself is also bad for kids

and for moms.

But if it's some other, if it's less harmful than that, if it's less serious than that, then avoid taking it because it's just good medicine.

I believe I have an obligation when I see something in the scientific literature that people should know about to help them make decisions in their own lives, that I should be able to tell people with the caveats that exactly I've said.

And that's exactly what we were doing in the last few days, is to tell people, look, there is this literature.

Most people I've talked with don't know about it.

They don't realize that there is this.

I'm looking at a Reuters story from 2013.

Too much Tylenol in pregnancy could affect development.

Too much frequent use towards the end of pregnancy may be linked to poor language skills and behavior problems among children, according to a new study.

I mean,

this has not been a secret.

And I don't understand why all of a sudden this is insane.

Because did you ever, ever intend on saying, you cannot take it?

We're banning it.

Or were you just saying, hey, you should be careful of this?

There are studies that show this.

You should just be aware.

Yeah, I mean, it's certainly the latter, Glenn.

We were aiming to tell moms,

pregnant moms, who were,

that there is this evidence, and so just be careful.

Talk to your doctor before you take it.

Even the Tylenol label says

to be careful in pregnancy, because there aren't great

toxicology studies that were done in pregnant women before Tylenol

was approved for the population at large.

It's an over-the-counter drug.

It has its uses, but

be aware of when it's appropriate to use it, when it's not, and be judicious.

That was what we were saying.

You know, and I think the key thing here is

it's something called Trump derangement syndrome, right?

So you had President Trump...

I remember

in 2020, President Trump said we should open schools.

You remember that?

Yes.

And then all of a sudden, all these groups that were before he said that in favor of opening schools somehow all of a sudden changed their mind in contradiction to what the scientific evidence is saying and said we should close schools.

There's something very odd about how some people react to what President Trump.

What President Trump said is

a more charismatic version of what I just said.

He said, don't take it unless you need to take it,

unless you really need it.

That's some substance of what he said.

And that's actually wise advice.

If you're pregnant women,

think carefully about whether you should take it, given this evidence.

I mean, I don't want five years from now, after the scientific debate's been resolved, and maybe it turns out that it is actually directly linked to autism, that for years of people taking it thinking that we don't know, when you could just say now, do prudent medicine.

Take it only if you really need it.

I just don't understand how this is twisted into something fascistic.

There's a post from 2017 from Tylenol that's going viral right now.

It says, we actually don't recommend using any of our products while pregnant.

Thank you for taking the time to voice your concerns today.

A representative from the parent company said the statement was incomplete, but what was that about?

Do you know?

How long have we known about any potential problems?

Well, okay, so there's the issue here is that the

company, the FDA regulates what it can and can't say.

Right?

So it's not allowed for pregnant women.

It's not allowed to say that you can take it if you're pregnant because they have never tested it on women formally

in a way that satisfies the FDA.

It's very difficult to do these kinds of studies on pregnant women.

You can just imagine, do I go recruit a whole bunch of

women who are

expecting and then say, well, I'm going to randomize you and give some of you Tylenol and some of you placebo, and we'll see what happens.

I mean, that kind of study would be pretty hard to organize.

It's kind of unethical almost.

And so they don't have any evidence on this.

And so they're supposed to say, as they did in 2017, that

we can't recommend pregnant women take it because they don't have evidence to document its safety to the satisfaction of the FDA.

Now, the game played then is like doctors can tell you whatever they want.

They're not limited by the FDA, which is appropriate, right?

Doctors ought to be able to assess your individual situation and make recommendations.

And so, again, that's essentially what we were saying to the public.

If you really need it, talk to your doctor and decide,

knowing now what the literature says.

The president's announcement essentially was a form of informed consent for the whole public.

There's this literature.

It's worth thinking about, even if all the uncertainty is not resolved, and then be careful,

think about it

when you need it, when you don't need it, in consultation with your doctor, especially if you're pregnant.

So

let me ⁇ because I would imagine that this, when this, you guys decided to bring this out, it was like a Monday blip.

It was just like, yeah, let's go ahead and release this.

And then it's turned into some nightmare.

And you have other initiatives on how you're going to tackle

the autism epidemic.

What are you going to, what, I mean, this was Tylenol.

What are you expecting?

And

what's coming?

Glenn, it's so weird.

I mean, I'm new to DC, so I guess maybe I'm still learning.

But I thought the big news from this was that we were going to,

we are.

NIH has just launched this massive autism data science initiative where we've gotten a dozen research teams examining the question, 13 actually, but research teams examining the question of what is the cause of autism?

And why has it risen so high in prevalence over coming years?

These are mysteries to medical science.

I don't know the full answer.

It's going to be complicated, whatever it is.

But we're finally starting to ask the questions in a way that's going to likely produce answers.

I thought that was going to be the big news out of this.

There was also a big, big announcement about this new treatment, this treatment that a lot of doctors have found effective for some, not all, but some kids who are profoundly autistic.

In some cases, I've seen

case reports where it's restored speech.

It's a drug called leukovorin that's been used for 40 years.

It's basically like it helps bring folate of a vitamin into your brain.

And the theory is that there's like folate deficiencies in some autistic kids in in brain early in develop in cognitive development.

It's really exciting.

We're telling people about this.

FDA is going to make an indication change so it's more widely available.

CMS is going to make this so that Medicare, you can get it if you have Medicaid or other kinds of insurance.

It could help a lot of families.

I thought those were going to be the big pieces of news.

Instead, we got this craziness of our autism, of Tylenol.

Is this

do you think this was coordinated or was just a bunch of mad people?

I don't know, Clan.

It

strikes me that so many of the people that are sort of chiming in from

the medical side

in panic over this are the same people who pushed lockdowns and mask mandates and like, you know, toddler masking and school closures and vaccine mandates and all the rest.

I mean, and you know,

many of them turn out to have been Ukraine war experts and Gaza war experts and who knows what else.

So

it's striking that we have such a great expert class in this country.

I keep coming back to this is what I want the FDA to do.

If the National Institute of Health and the FDA, what I want them to do is make recommendations, follow the research and then say, hey, we recommend this, we don't recommend this.

You should know this.

They should have to tell you that.

I don't want them making decisions for me.

I want my doctor to make the decisions.

And

this was the least autocratic thing I've seen in probably 20 years.

And it was like Hitler himself made this declaration.

I mean, yeah,

I just, it's mind-boggling.

I mean, many of the same quote experts that are

taking this in a hyperbolic way were absolutely fine when people were getting fired over the vaccine mandates.

I just don't,

and there was no good science behind their recommendations about the vaccine mandates.

The vaccine didn't stop you, COVID vaccine didn't stop you from getting and spreading COVID.

So why the mandates?

Like, why, why, it's,

I think people need to just stop and take a breath and say, look, what is actually the evidence?

I mean, I hope I conveyed it in a nuanced way.

I'm not saying to you that I know for certain that

this is a cause.

There's a scientific debate going on, but I think that there's enough evidence in the scientific literature to warrant telling people when you take it, here you should know about this.

Why should we hide that from people?

Shouldn't.

Seems to be a very balanced approach.

Talking to Jay Bhattacharya,

Doctor, can you speak a little bit about the Swedish study that a lot of people have brought up?

It's about 2.5 million kids.

It said 1.33% chance of having autism without acetaminophen, 1.53% chance if you did have it during pregnancy.

They did say that the effect disappeared when controlling for siblings.

Is this just part of the tapestry of all the research you looked at?

How do you view this data?

Yeah, so in fact, we mentioned it.

I wrote an op-ed with Marty McCary and Mehmed Oz

where we referenced this specific study, because this is a part of the literature that's more skeptical about the link, right?

That's a big Swedish study.

And as you said, Glenn,

if you just do a straightforward analysis of the 2.5 million moms,

you find an increase in autism in

the moms that were exposed to Tylenol.

Now, the study wasn't good at measuring Tylenol use.

I think only about 7% of the moms reported having using Tylenol in the treatment arm.

7% of the moms that reported using Tylenol.

We know for a fact that that's underestimated.

They were looking at

electronic health records and other things.

They didn't really get the over-the-counter use.

So it does have some methodological issues.

But the big thing with a sibling, sibling studies are really interesting because you think to yourself, if I compare, you have a mom, during birth number one, she used Tylenol.

During birth number two, she didn't use Tylenol.

And what if during birth number one,

the baby turns out to have autism, and birth number two, didn't use Tylenol, doesn't, that seems like strong evidence, right?

Because you've adjusted for the same common family environment, the same similar genes, because it's two siblings, right?

And it's a very attractive design, but it has problems, right?

So first of all,

you don't have two and a half million moms that have siblings like this.

What you have is a much smaller sample of what I call, what's called discordant siblings.

So you have siblings, one who

received Tylenol during the birth and one who didn't, right?

That's a much smaller sample than the 2.5 million.

You're not actually looking at 2.5 million.

You're looking at much.

And if you have a smaller sample, it's harder to pick up any effect.

You've got to find a significant effect

just statistically.

Second, the group of moms who use it in one pregnancy, doesn't use it in another, are very different from the moms who use it in both pregnancies or use it in one in don't use it in either pregnancy or who use it you know only have one one kid.

Very, very different from each other.

I don't know that the results that you find among the discordant

siblings translates over to the other groups.

And then third, this is probably most important, if you adjust away for the genetic differences and

family sort of shared family environment differences, you might be adjusting away for the mechanism by which Tylenol actually causes autism.

What you're doing, you're saying, oh, I'm narrowing it to like only a narrow set of differences between the siblings.

Obviously, there's a shared genetic environment and a

shared family environment.

But what if the mechanism by which

Tylenol use or latent pregnancy causes autism leads through the thing that you controlled away?

And you'll mask the true effect.

effect.

Jay,

I would love to continue to do this.

I've got a network break I have to hit.

Thank you so much for everything you're doing.

Thank you for being a part of the program.

I appreciate it, and I hope we can talk again.

I'd love that, Glenn.

You bet.

Thank you so much.

Dr.

Jay Balachari at National Institute of Health.

Fascinating.

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I think we should all talk to our doctor and get advice from our doctor, you know?

I know that's controversial back in the COVID days, and apparently it's, I guess, controversial now again for some strange reason.

But Donald Trump's not my doctor.

I don't know if he's your doctor.

He probably doesn't make a house call.

You should get a new doctor.

He's the president, not your doctor.

This is Glenn Beck.