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Now, the guy who's not going to get a Nobel Peace Prize, who actually earned one, Donald Trump, on that anniversary date announces peace in the Middle East.

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How are you?

Great day, Glenn.

It is.

What a great day, man.

It is.

Seriously.

Finally, some good news.

Yeah, I know.

I mean, it could go away tomorrow, but let's have faith.

It's faith.

Can't go away tomorrow.

The Blue Jays beat the Yankees.

It's over.

That series is over.

No, we were talking about the peace in the Middle East.

Wait, what happened?

No, that's

fantastic.

I mean, what an incredible development.

And who would have ever thought that you would have Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, and kind of Jordan

all in saying, we're with the United States and Israel.

We want peace.

Here's how we get there.

And Hamas does it.

These are all things that could not have possibly existed very recently.

No, and you know why?

I am convinced.

I mean, I've talked to Donald Trump about so many different things, but the best example of this is he will not allow me to ask him a question about assassination.

in the future.

Okay.

I've asked him, are you concerned about...

I don't even want to talk about it.

Don't talk about it.

Don't talk about it.

He calls into existence.

He knows the power of thought.

He knows the power of language.

And he is, he never

will call something into existence like that.

Okay.

You can believe him or not believe him, but he will not ever do that.

He only tries to think positively about things.

He's called this into existence where everybody else said, you know, State Department says, can't be done, can't be done.

Nobody wants to do this.

That's too big of a, he doesn't care.

He just walks in.

He's like, hey, everybody, what do you say we change the game entirely?

What is it going to take for all of you to recognize Israel?

Israel, what is it going to take for you to stop?

And Gaza, what is it going to take for you to return the hostages?

Let's do that deal.

I mean, it's just this big thinking where he doesn't say can't be done.

He never says can't be done.

And that's why he moves mountains.

It's just the power of positive thinking.

It's the power of your thoughts are creative.

So be careful, choose your thoughts and change the world.

And that's why he's able to cross these, you know, these lines that people just don't think things are possible.

Even if...

You know, we don't know how this is going to turn out.

No, there's a why, to be clear, there's a million things that could go wrong with this piece.

The scriptures tell us, not going to last.

Right.

I don't know.

We don't know where this thing ends, but just the attempt, like it's the, I would say, argue the same thing with Ukraine and Russia, right?

Like, he, he went in there with this idea of I'm going to solve this, and that one has not been solved.

Right.

But

this is how he approaches these things.

Right.

And it's not that, it's not that he can control other people, because he can.

He can't control how Putin looks at it, et cetera, et cetera.

But he doesn't say no to big ideas.

Yeah, right.

and that's allows him to approach everybody tries to nibble at the edges on everything

on everything look at how this guy has moved mountains it's because he comes in he's like yeah we're not doing it that way anymore here's what we're gonna do um you know look at the difference in the state department look at the difference in marco rubio

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Marco Rubio is like one of the best

State Department officials officials I've ever seen.

Secretaries of State?

Yeah.

Have you ever seen a better Secretary of State than him?

Well, Hillary.

You got to throw that into the conversation.

It's because they're just saying what's true.

They're very clear.

They don't compromise.

I mean, they will compromise, but not on the principles.

If these hostages are not returned on Monday or Tuesday, it'll be over.

He's not going to go, okay, well, let's give you some more money.

Let's do that.

No.

We're not flying cash onto a tarmac.

Is this

his best issue?

Yes.

Of his entire presidency going back to the first term.

Historically speaking, for sure.

Because I think, you know, I would, my argument would be the border probably.

And I do think this second term, the border has been an overwhelming...

unquestioned success.

But like, I think the basis for what happened here was was set in the first

Trump's term.

It was.

This is really something that has extended over both terms.

He didn't get enough credit for it in the first term.

We argued that constantly.

And as soon as they came in, it was all reversed.

People want war there.

Yeah.

He doesn't.

He doesn't want war.

You're right.

And

people have accused him of that, of course.

They always say, you know, warmonger and all these other things.

I think he really does believe that to his core.

And the only reason I think this stuff might be possible, and again, with all disclaimers aside for a moment here, because we do know this is a very difficult road ahead on this.

But the relationship.

Hang on, just

this is not just a difficult road.

This is the moonshot of peace deals.

Yeah, it's the one everybody mocks.

How many times are we going to be able to do that?

Times are always burning up on the launch pad.

I mean, this is the moonshot.

Yeah, and that's a, we all, we've already started to see Hamas whine about stuff.

Who God only knows where this ends.

But the basis for this even to be possible was set up in his first term with the improvement of relationships between these other Arab countries in the region and Israel.

The fact that, I mean, you think people are like, oh, what's Israel even giving up here?

They are allowing, if this goes through, a bunch of these countries that for the past half century have attacked them every three years.

No, don't, don't, don't, don't.

It's 80 years.

Thank you.

Thank you.

It's just since their founding.

Just since their founding, they have been attacked by a lot of these countries over and over again, and

oftentimes in coalition with each other, they're allowing them to come in and,

if this goes down the road, oversee part of their own country.

Yeah.

Right.

They are giving up a massive thing here.

And they only do that if they actually had some trust with these nations and, of course, trust with the United States to help enforce it.

Here's Trump's genius.

You're exactly right.

This was planted with the other countries last time with the Abraham Accords.

They gained trust,

but

the Palestinians didn't have any trust because remember, we're the great Satan, you know, little Satan, blah, blah, blah.

He has gotten the rest of the countries in the Middle East to say, no, they're not the little Satan.

They have a right to exist.

We can coexist with them, blah, blah, blah.

That's never been done.

Okay.

Never been done.

He did that last time.

Remember when Qatar was attacked by Israel?

Okay, just recently.

Yeah.

And that's a big factor.

And

Donald Trump, and everybody was like, wait, what are you doing?

Donald Trump came out and read Benjamin Netanyahu, the Riot Act, and said, apologize.

Okay.

And Benjamin Netanyahu did.

Okay.

That's the key on this one.

He,

you don't, you can't take Donald Trump at the moment alone.

You have to look at his strategy.

He is playing three-dimensional chess.

When he said that, he knew that was the key.

They're all saying now that was the key.

Because

when he did that with Qatar and defended Qatar and said, hey, no, play nice.

Everybody play nice.

And Benjamin Netanyahu.

did apologize.

That separated the United States from Israel as, you know, just a little, you know, that we're all in it together.

It's little Satan.

We're big Satan.

It showed that the president is

a fair and neutral broker and will look at both sides.

And Israel isn't always right.

The Middle East isn't always wrong.

He showed that to them.

That was the moment that the Palestinians said, okay, now wait a minute.

Maybe he is a somewhat honest broker for being the great Satan.

That's what brought this to a head and brought everybody to the table and said, okay, we can trust Donald Trump.

That's an amazing thing.

Yeah.

This is, you know, it's unequivocal here.

And this is a, you know, you, you still have to get this over the finish line, but these are

incredible accomplishments.

They're accomplishments that every, I mean, it has become, for as long as I've been involved in politics and world events and cared about it at all, it has been the joke.

Oh, Middle East peace right around the corner.

It has been the joke that it's impossible, that it will always be promised.

And, you know, again, we got to get there, but like, this is the closest we've ever been.

Would anyone ever say Gaza should be the Riviera?

You would say absolutely no.

No.

Donald Trump, his vision from the beginning has been, this can be prosperous.

This could be the Riviera.

You just have to stop the terrorism.

So he got the Middle East together, and the Middle East now says, we'll rebuild.

We're not rebuilding it.

I don't want a dime going to rebuild that.

They'll rebuild it.

They'll guarantee the peace there because they'll have their money invested in it, in hotels and golf courses and whatever they want to do, and make it the Riviera.

That changes everything, all the dynamics, because now the

Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Qatar and everything else, they're going to be pouring billions of dollars into it.

They're not going to want it wrecked.

I mean, he's just,

he's brilliant.

The guy, if he doesn't get a Nobel Prize, assuming the hostages come home next week,

you know,

God only knows.

But the guy deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

And I think they would just dissolve the award before they get to the point.

Oh, they would.

They're like, no, no.

No, that Nobel Prize thing, that was yesterday.

We don't do that anymore.

We didn't pay our rent.

The building's closed.

But he will quite obviously deserve it if this happens.

Have you heard what the rest of the world is saying about him?

I mean, all the leaders from all over the world are like, this is amazing.

And the only reason it happened is because of Donald Trump.

What is the left going to say?

How do you, how do you,

how do the protesters, if this ends, I mean, this is, this is why it won't end if it doesn't,

because there is too much power that they'll be giving up on the streets of Europe and America and all over the world.

How do you have the Palestinian protesters on the streets tearing our cities apart?

You don't.

You don't.

It's over.

It's over.

I mean, this is just genius from start to finish.

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Okay, so

let me just talk about the shutdown here for a second.

They're having another vote.

I think it's the seventh vote today.

It's not going to pass.

But is it just me?

And I haven't heard anybody talk about this.

I don't think, I mean, I think these shutdowns show America what

government,

you know, what essential government actually means.

And, you know, with an exception of the air traffic controllers, which by the way, if I were the president, I'd fire you.

You don't show up for work.

You are essential to the economy, to the security, to everything in America.

You, just like Reagan said, you don't strike or I'll fire you and replace you.

He's got to figure out a way to get all of the essential services paid and moving.

And then I got to tell you, I would just be like, no, we're not negotiating.

And

I think if this president went four months and he could cover all of the essential services, no one would care.

No one would care.

because they're getting everything.

And then he could say, yeah, you know, 40% of the government's not even showing up for work.

So why do we have that 40% 40% of that government?

Cut it.

You could convince people that the sky doesn't, you know, fall.

Planes don't fall out of the skies, but he's got to cover the essential services.

Let's see, there's what else?

What is Antifa is trending today online?

That's interesting that people are now like, what is Antifa?

Just an idea, Glenn.

It's just an idea.

There's no organization.

There's no real members, not a real group.

It's just an idea.

There's nothing you can do about it.

It might as well just let them burn things down.

So funny because

the show I did last night was, you know, is Antifa just a,

you know, a group of ragtag rebels?

There's no, there's no, you know, organization behind it.

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So there is a Texas business owner who has had his life and his family's life turned completely upside down because he made a social media post and he was criticizing H-1B visas.

He said,

let me see, I want to get the quote exactly right.

He said, we have to cancel the H-1Bs.

I want my kids to grow up in America, not India.

Okay.

You could read that as absolutely racist.

You could read that a million different ways.

Of course, Nobody read that as anything other than absolutely racist.

Now

his family has been doxxed.

They have received death threats.

The business was review-bombed.

Somebody claimed to have access to millions of Indian Americans across America tried to extort him and his family for $20,000.

He deleted the post.

He said,

that's not what I mean.

Now his church.

I think has kicked him out of his church.

What the hell is that?

We wanted to have him on to explain.

Daniel Keene is with us now.

Hello, Daniel.

How are you, sir?

Good.

How are you doing, Glenn?

Very good.

So, let me ask you about the initial comment first.

How did you mean that?

Yeah, I certainly didn't mean it in racial terms.

What I was trying to express is my opposition to the immigration policies,

which is why I called out the H-1B visa in particular.

And yeah, it just obviously was, as you mentioned,

was definitely construed in racial terms.

And I was accused of having racial animosity as opposed to just wanting better, wiser immigration policy for our country.

I heard somebody yesterday, I was standing by somebody, I just overheard a conversation, and they said

they live someplace here in Texas, and they have exactly the same view.

And what they were saying was, you know, I grew up in this neighborhood and it has fundamentally changed overnight.

And I'm not saying that, you know, they're deadbeats or anything else.

It's just a completely different culture that is not American.

And that happened before with Italian, you know, Italians moving in, et cetera, et cetera, back in the past.

But, you know, there should be some

desire to in you know um meld into our society and become americans i think the indians do uh do that um but it's getting more and more rare uh with with immigrants and certainly not happening with illegals

yeah and you know what's interesting uh i think a lot of people would find interesting is the indian indians i do know uh had no they took no offense they had no objection to the post um

It was the sort of left-leaning Americans, and then it was foreign attacks, bought attacks on the business.

So interesting enough,

they didn't deem it as racial, as racist, and they actually have reached out to me, many of them, to voice their agreement.

They see

the violation of sort of the normal immigration standard of assimilation or even of visa fraud.

And they too also think there needs to be reform and needs to be a pulling back on just the sheer mass amount in such a concentrated area, specifically here in Dallas, too.

Okay, so let me just go through some things.

Your business was attacked.

Your family has been attacked.

I mean, you have gone to this gym forever.

They know you.

You even talked to them for a while and, you know, after this,

and everybody was cool.

And then all of a sudden, you lose your gym membership.

You're no longer welcome here.

And then the one I really want to talk to you about is your church.

What happened at your church?

Yeah.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

So with the church, obviously initially, when the post went viral,

it got significant traction, which when I posted it, I had 300 followers on X.

Not as significant.

I was really just speaking to friends and people I knew.

But yeah, it went viral and obviously the threats came pretty quickly.

I sort of in a panic deleted it, you know, thinking I wasn't expecting to be a public figure overnight.

So my information was accessible to people.

So

talking to my wife in the middle of the night, we deleted the post

and

I deleted the post.

And following up, the church reached out to me and you would think that the church was concerned with the extortion and the threats and the the accusations and the attacks on the business, but they were very, very concerned with the public image of the church being brought in to my

expression of the opposition of the policies.

And so, over the course of- Did you mention the Trails Church?

Because let me bring them in.

Did you mention the Trails Church?

No, it was easily accessible that I was a member.

I'm a heavily involved member of the church.

I was leading Bible studies, leading community groups, coordinating services.

So,

I was not on staff, but I was as about as involved as a member as you could be.

Okay.

So they know you

and they call you in and they say, this is,

your post was uncharitable.

Okay.

All right.

So

they interview you and it's not really, it doesn't turn out to be like, hey, let's solve this.

It seems almost like an inquisition, at least the way I have read about it.

Can you tell me what happened?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So immediately following the post, it was a phone call with three elders and me

and their them expressing that they they deemed it as as racist and not quote not loving my neighbor.

And you know, obviously my opposition to that was well, which which neighbor are we talking about?

Because I'm acting out of love for my friends and the members of the church who are being harmed by these policies.

And they they were more concerned with how an Indian immigrant might understand

what you know what I mean by that with that post.

So that was followed, that was a couple couple hours or about an hour and a half conversation.

Then there was another phone call.

And then that was on the Wednesday.

And then actually, that was the Wednesday that Charlie was assassinated.

Oh, my gosh.

And it changed the dynamic quite a bit.

It gave me some fortitude looking at

just the impact he had on my life and on so many others.

And so

it gave me some fortitude to continue to express that I didn't think that I sinned with the post.

I thought that

I was honoring God and caring for my neighbor, and I was willing to kind of suffer the consequences if they wanted to continue in the meetings.

And it was in that meeting that they expressed that this was church discipline that I was in the process of, which is Baptist is a very serious thing.

At the end, typically for congregationalists, you're brought before the church and you're voted to be removed and treated as a Gentile, an unbeliever.

And so that was very concerning that I was in the process.

I never in my life thought that I would be in the process of church discipline.

And

Charlie's death kind of changed the dynamic a little bit.

They brought me in one more time with my wife.

They insisted my wife was there.

She's eight and a half weeks pregnant, or eight and a half months pregnant, I'm sorry, at that point.

So we're due the next week.

And so she observed.

And it was seven elders and me, and they peppered me with questions for two hours.

What were the questions?

The questions were in-depth nuance of my views on the issue.

And I just answered them with, you know, it's not, I don't have a racial animosity.

I was on staff with Campus Crusade for Christ.

I worked with international students for three years, sharing the gospel with them.

I have tons of affection and love for.

a good dynamic of immigration policies that has a has a sunset and they're returning back to the country and and we're leaving on good terms and all those things.

Their concern

was that just the policy itself, my position, the expression of my position, was deemed as not loving towards other people.

And I just wholeheartedly disavow that and don't affirm that.

Made clear my views on race, that I'm not racist.

I don't view people with racial animosity or hatred.

In fact, I think these policies actually, when done incorrectly, they lead to racial animosity.

When you bring in so many people at one time into one area and you see that you talk to people and you hear about them feeling like they're losing their country,

there's an animosity that's kind of stirred up and there's not brotherly love and affection for one another when that happens.

And there should be as much concern about the people

who feel that way.

You should have as much concern about, hey, let's sit down.

Let's talk about this.

Let's find the way so you don't feel that way.

Let's find the way to slow down or whatever it is not stop but to make sure that you're comfortable they're comfortable what i mean so what was the outcome with the church

yeah certainly it's their right to express that right and so the outcome was it ended with uh

another meeting another two-hour kind of meeting because i'm not willing to admit that i sinned in this way i am therefore not submitting to the elders and i need to find another church i'm not i'm i was asked formally to leave the church.

They did not bring me before the church to vote.

So there wasn't, in their terms, on a technicality, I wasn't technically excommunicated.

I was just told

with eight elders and staff that

I needed to go to another church, which I said, okay,

give me, like, I will do that, but I need to find another church.

And then ultimately, they ended up making comments to the church

verbally and saying that I wasn't a member, which was news to me

and my wife's as well.

And so we reached back out to them.

We said, hey, we do want to continue to be members until we find a new church.

They said, that's too late.

You're not a member anymore.

And then

the articles

were published, and now I'm talking to you.

Wow.

Wow.

So

where do you stand?

Have you found a new church?

We've had numerous people reach out to us, express, hey, you're welcome here.

You're welcome here.

And so we've got a list of great churches, I think, and great pastors who have been

even counseling me.

Immediately, I kind of reached out to other pastors just to get some other perspective.

Like,

did I sin?

Did I really do something wrong?

Because I don't feel like I did.

And they kind of were able to counsel us, actually counsel my wife and I, through the process, whereas the elders just wanted to kind of run an inquisition on me.

Why why do you think they did that what what what what

i mean

i think that they are very concerned in the most charitable way possible for towards them i think they're concerned with me being a a stumbling block for people to come to to join the church to come to know christ

and that's their primary concern and and i I

man if that was the primary concern, I would not be a member of any church.

There's no way any church would.

I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've had, you know, even in my own church, people say, well, he's a member, then I don't know what a member is.

Okay.

Well,

don't go to church because of the members.

Go because of the truth of the gospel.

That's what you're there for.

We're all on the path of trying to be better people, trying to get to the truth one way or another.

I mean, wow.

You only take the people you agree with.

Yeah, that was something I expressed towards the end was it ultimately was like my final concern and is my the reason why I'm willing to talk about it publicly and of course I'm being accused of you know sewing division and all these things after I'm a member or not a member anymore

But

my issue that I see and I hear these stories of people who deal with the same saying is that the church there there are things that the church that maybe leaders in the church value

that are maybe they're they're they're landmines and these are major sins to them in in their eyes.

They're not major sins in terms of, or even sin, you want to say, in scripture.

And where they overlook the clear objective sin taking place in the church, they have no problem devoting so much time and attention and energy to something that is very within the Christian liberty

area, liberty of conscience on this issue.

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I'm sorry for what you've gone through, and I know you've learned an awful lot.

And hopefully, the church has learned something as well.

But I wish you all the best of luck, and you have a right to speak your mind peacefully, calmly,

and have your own opinion.

I appreciate you speaking out.

Thank you, Daniel.

I appreciate it.

Thank you, Glenn.

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It is Thursday, and there is a lot of good news and a lot of things that we need to pay attention to.

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the Security Cabinet meeting, the Israeli Security Cabinet meeting, they passed the Gaza ceasefire plan.

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There was celebration in the streets of Gaza as well as in what's called hostage square in Tel Aviv.

And the president is going to the Middle East.

I think he'll be in Egypt early next week to sign this peace deal.

This is a huge, huge, major win for the world and for peace and anybody who

really despises war and killing.

Thank you, President Trump.

It's an amazing deal.

We'll talk about that a little bit more this hour.

Also I want to talk to you about some of the things that are happening up in Canada if we have time.

And Carol Roth joins me next because I'm very concerned.

Carol and I were asked a couple of years ago, we were doing

something together.

And one of the questions from the audience was,

how long before gold hits $5,000 an ounce?

And we both agreed, well, it's going to.

It's going to happen faster than you think, but

you don't want to hope for that.

If you own gold, you don't want to hope for that.

It's a really bad sign.

She's here to kind of flesh that out.

And I want to also talk to her about an AI bubble because that would be very, very dangerous.

What does peace in the Middle East

will that pay any kind of dividends to stabilize our economy?

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How are you?

I'm doing great, Glenn.

I'm actually celebrating my 26th wedding anniversary.

Oh, my God.

So it's a blessed day.

Oh, well, congratulations.

Congratulations.

You know, it's weird.

I'm coming up on my 26th

in January.

Oh, fabulous.

Fabulous.

It's a good amount of time to be married, for sure.

It is.

So, Carol, let's talk a little bit about the price of gold hitting, what is it?

It's over $4,000.

Over $4,000.

Which is nuts.

And I don't think people really understand.

I don't think the average, this is my guess, and I want you to correct me.

I don't think the average person is buying gold.

I think this gold buying is happening from sovereign funds and central banks, mainly, also Asian markets.

I don't think Americans really understand what $4,000 an ounce means.

Can you explain it?

Yeah, absolutely.

You know, obviously, I think that the world, both investors and central banks, are catching up to the things that you and I have been talking about for years.

So, you know, we were ahead, we warned everyone, and now this is a little bit of catch-up.

Interestingly, you know, as you noted, the average American is very behind in terms of what gold means.

When you look at Chinese households, when you look at Indian households, there are estimates that each one of those countries' households owns about up to 30,000 tons of gold at this point, which to put that in context, the U.S.

government owns 8,133 tons.

So the Indian households, all of them combined, 27,000 tons.

Right.

What we have, what we say we have, is 8,100.

Right.

Wow.

So the households in China and India are really ahead of the curve.

When you look at data for the U.S., it's a little bit hard to get good data, but from what I've seen, the estimates are only about 10 to 11 percent of U.S.

households at all have exposure to gold.

Now, I know that your audience is very sophisticated and is ahead of the curve, and I would imagine blows through that number, but just shows how sort of unprepared U.S.

households are in general.

When you're looking at Indian and Chinese households that own gold,

does that include all the gold jewelry?

Yes.

Yes, okay.

All right.

Yes.

That's actually,

particularly in India, sort of one of their preferred ways of procuring gold.

Okay.

So

gold has shot up over $4,000 in record time.

I mean, breathtaking time.

Yes.

What is causing that?

Okay.

So there are a confluence of factors, and I think the two most important factors, which of course are linked, are what Wall Street is now calling the debt debasement trade, which they've just caught on to and gave it a cute name, and the changing global financial order.

And those are very much linked.

So I'll go into each of them.

Tell me what the

debt debasement.

What is that?

They're calling it the debt debasement trade, which is just basically what you and I have been talking about, which is our unsustainable fiscal position

and what all of the money printing that we've seen over the past 17 years, what that has done to our purchasing power and how that is going to catch up to us.

So as a reminder, our debt to GDP is at emerging market crisis levels.

We're 120 plus percent of GDP.

We're running deficits that are equivalent to a wartime level or a recession level while we still have growth, which is crazy.

We have interest rate that is outpacing defense or interest payments that are outpacing defense spending.

So everyone is now finally catching on to the fact that this is an unsustainable financial position and it is going to be very difficult to get out of without there being some sort of additional debasement of our currency, which is a fancy way of saying a diminishment of your purchasing power.

What's really crazy, there's a chart that's been going around and they did kind of a comparison of different asset classes priced in U.S.

dollars and priced in gold.

So if you look from the end of September 2018 out seven years and you look at the top 100 NASDAQ non-financial companies, it's called the NDX, in U.S.

dollar terms, that is up 236%.

So you think you're super rich, right?

But in gold terms, solid money that

doesn't have its value-debased, it's only up 4.7%.

Oh, my gosh.

Wait, it gets worse.

The S ⁇ P 500

up 133% over that period in dollar terms.

It's down 27.6% in gold terms.

And what's called the Case-Schiller home price index, which is the value of homes, the way that that's measured, in dollar terms up 60%.

We're all saying, oh, you know, houses so expensive.

In gold terms, it's down 50%.

In fact, right now, it takes less gold in terms of ounces to buy the median single-family house than

it has in decades and decades and decades.

So it goes to show that even though we see these dollars, they're buying less and less.

And now, you and I have been talking about this forever, but now Wall Street is catching on.

Oh, that's not a great thing.

And so, in terms of preserving the hard-earned capital, we need something that is

that hedge, that neutral hedge that's going to retain its value.

And that's why more investors, institutional investors, funny enough, a lot of millennials, more than anyone, starting to really get into gold.

You know why?

Because millennials have not been trained their whole life, trust the system.

Yes.

And they see it clearly and they look at it and they're like, well, this doesn't make any sense at all.

You can't spend this and

you're going to wreck the dollar and everything else.

They just see it without being trained.

over and over and over again that, oh no, trust the system.

They don't trust the system.

And once you realize that system is rigged in a million different ways and the system is not telling you the truth like i mean that is amazing when when you look at the stock market and you say it's actually down when you compare it in u.s dollars to gold

what's happening is let me explain this to the audience what what all that means is gold is only going up in dollars it's staying It's staying stable,

but it's costing you more because of inflation.

The dollars are buying less.

So it looks like you're paying more, but you're really not.

It looks like the stock market is going up, but it's really not.

It's what it costs to get in with dollars.

If you were going in with gold, you'll actually see that if it was all done in gold, the stock market is down.

The price of housing is down.

It's the dollar.

You had takes more dollars to buy.

than it does with gold, which holds its value.

That is, that if people could understand that one thing, that changes all of the conversations of the government's got to do something to make housing more affordable.

No, they don't.

They have to stabilize the dollar.

They have to stop spending so much money.

Yeah, I mean, if you think of the three definitions of money, it is a medium of exchange, you know, how you help to exchange goods.

It's a unit of account, which we say things are priced in dollars, and it's supposed to be a store of value.

The unit of account that you just talked about, my friend Steve Forbes has a great analogy and he talks about other measurements.

You know, imagine that your clock, you know, one day at 12 o'clock means midnight and another day 3 o'clock means midnight.

Or 6 inches to measure a curtain one day and then the same measurement is like a foot a different day.

You can't have a consistent measurement if the unit of account continues to change.

And that's what we've been seeing here with the dollar.

And unfortunately, it has not been to our favor, which means that when you work really hard to earn something and it's valued in a dollar, that over time

that work that you've put out, your productivity is worth less and less.

And so what gold is meant to do, it's meant to be capital preservation.

It's not a risk asset.

It's not meant to take on risk and maybe go up a ton and maybe go down a ton.

It's really meant to be a counterbalance to what you have earned so that you can preserve your purchasing power.

No, I've been saying this for a long time: that you can put your money, and I have money in the stock market, but you put your money in the stock market.

If things really go awry, go ahead.

You're going to cash out for an awful lot of money, but those dollars, it's going to be paid back to you in dollars.

Those dollars will be worth less, even though there's more of them stacked up, than that ounce of gold or that, you know,

10 ounces of gold or whatever you had,

the stock market is paid in dollars.

And so as the inflation goes up, but gold keeps its value, keeps its value and

holds it steady.

So yeah, you're going to be paid more in dollars if you try to sell your gold, but that's going to continue to increase while stock markets will go down.

Am I right?

And it's a counterbalance.

So if things were to shift and for some reason things were to change with the dollars, which would need a lot of different catalysts, then your gold goes down.

It's a counterbalance, which is why it's important to have that diversification in your portfolio and to have the gold hedge.

What's interesting, Glenn, is just the history.

We're talking about millennials.

They went through the Great Recession financial crisis.

They're kind of keyed into this.

But if you think about when we came out of the 70s with this crazy inflation, we came out of the gold standard, it used to be

very commonplace for a financial advisor to sit down and say, okay, we've been through this, and so you should be putting

5 to 10 percent of your portfolio in gold.

As the stock market took off in dollars and became this big thing and they started seeking fees, that went away.

And financial advisors who don't get paid sometimes at all when you allocate to gold, stop recommending it.

And now we're seeing a shift back.

Now we're seeing, you know, oh, yes, you should have some.

Some of the big names out there are saying even more.

Ray Dalio just came out and said 15 percent.

Yes, we've seen from big names like that anywhere from 10 to 20.

And when they surveyed high net worth investors, which are $250,000 or assets or more, they're averaging right now 21 percent of their holdings in gold.

So a very big flip in recent years on how this is being viewed by the people who have accumulated those dollars and are worried about them.

Okay, so let me just summarize here before we move on on to some other questions.

That is exactly what my grandfather who lived through the depression said.

What are the people with big, large amounts of money doing?

I want to do that.

And if I would have done that, I would have been better off in the Great Depression.

You just heard it.

20%

or more, right?

Of big dollars, they're investing in gold, 20%.

You should have some.

And it's interesting, some of the portfolios we're seeing, some of that is coming not necessarily from the equity piece, but from the fixed income piece, which is pretty interesting, too.

Amazing.

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Okay.

Carol.

Yes.

Hey, Glenn, before we move on,

we spent all that time talking about the debt debasement trade.

Do we want to talk about the changing global financial order piece on gold, too, or do we want to come back to that another time?

I think we come back to that another time.

I mean, can you mention it, sum it up in a paragraph about what BRICS and everybody else is doing?

Yeah.

So basically, for the last 14 to 15 years,

the banks around the world have not been buying our treasuries on net.

They've been net selling them when you look at it, you know, altogether, and they have been replacing that with gold.

And the power center for gold is starting to shift to the east.

China is building up their own vaults, they're building up their own trading, and they're really making that a de facto reserve currency.

So if you want another piece of what's going on, central bank buying of gold used to be about 10% of the volume.

It's now about 20%.

And all of the suppression and the price that used to happen out of the London paper market is now being challenged by what's going on in the East.

And that's part of the reason why we have seen this move that should have happened a long time ago start to really move and accelerate.

So and I want to make it clear, you know, the reason why the United States became the world's powerhouse is because we lent money to Europe and they sent us their gold.

So at the end, we had this huge pile of gold and we had the power to be able to say, we're going to debase everything.

We're going to do a dollar and it's going to be based on the gold because we have all the gold.

And now we have debased that money.

God only knows how much gold we actually have.

I hope we have what we say we do.

And the other countries now are piling gold in.

If things repeat as they always do, especially when you're talking about mathematics, those countries that are piling up the gold are going to be the ones after the big crash to say,

we're going to provide the currency or we'll just make all of the trades based in gold,

which, you know, is basically what we were doing, you know, when we had an actual dollar based in gold.

All right, Carol, we're going to come back and I want to talk to you a little bit about the shutdown,

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The author of the book, You Will Own Nothing, Kara Roth, is with us now.

She's one of my favorite economists because I think she

sees things for what they really are.

I want to talk about the shutdown with her, but I want to start with the AI bubble.

There's a lot of talk about the AI bubble, and I don't think people really understand because they see the stock market going up.

But if you look at the SP, that's only really seven companies that are driving the

gains here.

And those seven companies are all AI-based.

So if it is a bubble, or even if it is not a bubble, but there is some sort of shock to the system,

we have not diversified.

The S ⁇ P is not diversified.

It's seven AI companies.

Something happens to AI and the bottom falls out.

That's the way I read it.

Carol, can you talk me down from that tree?

So I actually probably have

somewhat good news for the first time ever.

I hope that.

Thank you.

There's definitely truth to what you were saying, but I do think that there's another side that make it a bit different than the dot-com bubble, at least we hope.

Uh-oh, this time it's different.

I never like that.

Yeah,

a little bit.

So since

April when the stock market went a little bit crazy, what they call the magnificent seven companies, the big names out there,

the the Amazons

and the like,

basically those have accounted for a little over half the gains in the stock market market because there is so much money being thrown at AI.

Certainly right now everything's an AI company because everybody wants dollars.

So if you scoop ice cream, you figured out a way to make your ice cream

better with artificial intelligence because that gets you a little bit of a bump.

And we know that the valuations are nonsensical.

We know a lot of money has been thrown there.

And what we'd like to see is what we call a broadening of the market, which means more stocks and more sectors and more sizes of companies, you know, not just the big guys, but the little guys to

doing better.

And that's a bit of a healthier market.

So we want to see that.

The small cap stocks have increased significantly in 2025, so that is a good thing.

We are seeing that those are captured in a different index than the S ⁇ P 500.

So we are seeing a bit of that, and that's good news.

Where I think this is different than the dot-com bubble is if you look at companies like like Microsoft, like NVIDIA, that

do have these crazy valuations.

These are not like the companies that

are companies that are substantially large technology companies that were worth

half a trillion, trillions of dollars before AI came into the picture.

And if you go back

over the years, they've switched to the hot thing.

First it was the Internet of Things.

That was the hot thing, and then they got a premium value for that.

Then it was the cloud.

Now it's AI.

So my guess is that there's probably something in their pocket that's post-AI quantum computing or whatever it is.

The next hot thing, that if this doesn't come to fruition in the way that it may not, because it is disruption is lagging, some of the adoption is lagging, and it doesn't become

this big game changer that we think it is, that at least you have these solid companies that aren't going to zero, that have a diversified base in terms of their own business, and probably have the next hot thing that is going to sustain it.

So I do think it's different.

Certainly from a venture capital standpoint, where dollars are being allocated, they are all going to AI.

They're getting crazy valuations.

60% of those companies, it's estimated, are pre-revenue.

They haven't even generated a dollar yet.

But it's also early innings on AI.

So when you think about the internet, when we had the dot-com bubble, that was kind of the first wave.

And some of the companies that went out,

the infrastructure caught up.

And now we have companies.

We didn't have Bike.com, but we have Chewy.

We didn't have Webvam, but we have DoorDash and Instacart.

So we're still early innings.

So I do think you're probably going to get some volatility and shifting here.

But I don't think that we're looking at the same

kind of meltdown that we were talking about.

That's all I want.

I just want to be able to get 20 minutes of shut eye, not thinking about that.

The shutdown.

I'm somebody who believes if he could find a way to stabilize the air traffic control and get all of the essential stuff down, I would be happy with a government shutdown forever.

You know, because I think you could make the case, if you could stabilize things, you could make the case.

Hey, everybody, we got 40% of the people aren't going to work and they haven't been going to work for three months.

Have you noticed a difference?

Because I haven't.

Let's fire all those people.

I mean, I think it would be a great experiment.

But

how long can we go?

Can we stabilize things to keep going this way?

And what is this affecting?

I love your idea.

It's sort of Doge 2.0.

You know, as long as we can get the military and air traffic control paid and all of that the stuff that people care about.

Let's start with Congress.

That would be a great place to start.

So right now, if you look at Wall Street, the investors don't seem to care.

They don't seem to think that there's enough that's going on.

And I think what shifts that and what changes that is if it goes on to the point in time, and I don't have a date for you, but at the point of time when it starts to either impact the market and or it impacts the economy in terms of consumer spending.

And how will that impact?

I understand spending if people aren't getting paid.

Right.

But

the same thing with the stock market is that there is a wealth effect linked there, is that when people see their 401ks going up,

they feel like they're wealthier and that they're willing to go out and to make purchases.

And when they see that going down, they get concerned about that.

They get concerned about the economy.

The consumer is 70% of the economy, so that sentiment matters greatly.

And the reality is, given our precarious financial situation that we've talked about, we cannot afford for GDP to go down.

We cannot afford for capital gains collection, tax collections to go down.

We cannot afford for the economy to contract and not have that same revenue base base because that's going to explode the deficit.

That means it's going to have more interest expense.

It could put us into a debt spiral.

So that's the real concern:

that we need to keep that.

And the things that you mentioned,

you know, the air traffic control, you know, that's not going to be great for consumer sentiment if that becomes a big issue.

And the other thing is that nobody wants to see

the people who serve us in the military, active duty military, they don't want to see 1.3 million people not get checked.

And that's coming up.

That's coming up in, I think, a week or so.

Isn't that, I mean, when a government shuts down, isn't it supposed to be an all-non-essential?

So this is, the military is essential.

Air traffic is essential.

How come that's a carve-out?

Do you know?

Nothing in government makes sense to me.

My guess is that they will probably have some sort of tiering, and based on the amount of money that they have available, certain certain things happen first, and then certain things happen second.

But we know that the government's coffers aren't in a great position right now either.

So they may have run those numbers.

I haven't tried to do that, but I think that's

how that works, and they see how much money is available for all the things that they need to pay.

Aaron Powell,

the other frustrating thing, and I've only got about four minutes and I've got a couple more questions for you, but the other frustrating thing on this is this is only a stopgap for when do we hit it again, like seven weeks?

I mean,

when will we get serious and actually

do a budget?

Do you see that in the horizon ever again?

You know, you're asking me to rationalize crazy.

And I think that's the challenging part here.

We have so many ways that we can right our ship and put us on a good path.

The weak link is always Congress.

If Congress doesn't get serious, and they are right now not incented to,

then whatever we do, they can just undo.

So we need to find a way to hold them more accountable than just, oh, you're not going to get elected again.

I think that we need to really seriously rethink the accountability of the people who are supposed to, quote unquote, represent us, who are truly, really only representing their interests and their power.

Okay, so let me talk to you about Obamacare.

Obamacare, we knew, would never work.

Everything that's happening right now, we said would happen in 2008, 9, 10.

And even the Washington Post came out, I think it was this week or late last week, with an op-ed from the editorial board, the whole board, saying it was never going to work.

It doesn't work.

You know, it's a debacle.

What is coming off the table are these subsidies that were given due to COVID.

Now everybody is saying, you know, acting like that was always part of Obamacare.

It never was.

We have to not just keep throwing good money after bad.

This is not going to work.

It's a bad system.

But I don't see anybody on the left, I'm sorry, on the right offering any kind of real strategy, and people are going to be hurt when those Obamacare

premiums go up.

So how do we solve this?

Yeah, I mean, actually, you're seeing people on the right

saying that we should be extending the subsidies because they know that when people see their premiums and see them go through the roof, which by the way, they're going to go somewhat through the roof anyway because some of this the insurance companies have baked in and said, you know, we expect there's going to be political dysfunction, so we're just going to bake that in anyway.

But, you know, because midterms are coming up, you have Republicans actually saying, oh, we should probably extend these for some period of time.

But again, that's political.

That doesn't get to the heart of the issue.

I mean, health care is just an absolute mess in this country.

And I've seen really great proposals.

Ovik Roy has had some really thorough proposals, but it really means uprooting and disrupting the whole system.

And I don't know that politically there is the appetite to do things that are necessary to fix the problem.

They want to kick the can to somebody else because again, as we were talking about with accountability, they just want to get re-elected and say that they did something and grandstand or make something up.

They don't want to actually solve our problems.

And

it was never going to be affordable care.

We all knew that.

We all knew we were losing our doctors.

We knew that this was going to be an absolute mess.

It has made it worse.

And

that's been a frustrating point with Republicans forever is that they identify this as an issue, but there has never been a really solid proposal, while there are ones that are sitting out there from great thinkers on how we put it in place, and there just doesn't seem to be the political will.

So,

once again, we need to figure out a way to create that accountability.

If we want these problems solved,

we cannot just assume that electing a handful of good people and a bunch of mediocre and bad people is going to fix that.

Carol, thank you so much.

God bless.

Happy anniversary.

Oh, thank you very much.

All right.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

Carol Roth, the author of You Will Own Nothing and a former investment banker

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They're having their 100th anniversary and I can't wait to be up there.

I wish you were coming with me, Stu, because I know you love Fort Wayne as well.

Yeah.

But

I'm going up there and this is the home of Berna.

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I'm going to be able to try to swing over to see the people over at Berna because they assemble everything here in America.

And I think they were, I think 20% of the stuff was made here in America, you know,

five, six years ago.

When Trump put in the mandate and said, hey, want everything here in America, they did everything they can to switch.

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Hello, America.

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We want to talk about this is not just a Gaza peace deal.

This is actual peace in the Middle East, if this comes through.

It's something that's never, ever been done before and shocking, shocking in its scope, assuming that it takes hold.

You know, already the opposition party in Israel is saying that Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Prize.

I mean, you know,

the worst thing you could say is, hey, get it for the prize.

Give him the freaking prize.

Yeah, whatever.

I mean, it was harder than opening a cracker Jack box, which I think is all that Obama had to do to get a Nobel Prize.

This is historic, what was announced last night, and he's already on to something else.

I've never seen a president like this.

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Oh,

your initial thoughts here on the peace deal?

deal?

It's an incredible opportunity.

I think it is important to remind ourselves that these things typically do fall apart.

That is essentially your expectation anytime anything like this happens.

Part of this is going to be Hamas coming through on promises.

I have very little belief that they are typically able to do such things.

That being said, They probably also, you know, one of the things a friend of mine pointed this out to me.

We were going over all of this, and he said, one thing to think about is that this is like not the B team of Hamas, but like the R team of Hamas.

They've killed so many of the leadership.

These are people making decisions that were not at the top of this organization and had those ridiculous ideological beliefs that would lead you to October 7th.

That's not to mean that Hamas, these people that are left are like, hey, you want to invite him over for Thanksgiving.

But I do think

there's a possibility here that they're like, you know, maybe this life isn't for us.

Maybe like, you know, taking it would be nice if that were true.

I don't know if that's true, but I don't know if that's really nice.

I do think that there might be a little bit lower ideological commitment potentially.

And also the idea that some of these people might be able to make this deal and escape to another third country and, you know, live life there in a different way.

So the breaking news that just was announced.

Israel, their parliament or their cabinet just met and approved phase one of the deal.

And Hamas has just come out and said they accept phase one of the deal.

That means the hostages will be released either this weekend or Monday.

Any remaining hostage will be released.

I mean, just that.

Just that is a reason.

If that occurs, it is a massive achievement.

Yes.

So far, it is already the greatest opportunity we've had, and only possible because of his dedication to this idea.

And his deal-making.

Not just his vision, but his ability to work all of the parties and find out what all the parties need and make it happen.

You know, we're not talking about peace between Gaza, you know, Hamas and Israel.

We're talking about peace in the Middle East.

Yeah, it's bigger.

It's bigger than just Israel.

I mean, it's Egypt and Saudi Arabia and

Jordan to some extent and Turkey, all of them getting together and saying, you know what, we'll rebuild Gaza.

We want to make it into a very prosperous kind of area.

I mean, think of places in Saudi Arabia that are so prosperous.

That's the way Gaza could be.

So they're all getting together and they're saying, we will rebuild, we'll oversee, we'll try to make everything, you know, keep everything held.

They're going to put their money into it, which means they have a lot to lose if things go awry.

And they all are saying, we can coexist with Israel.

That, that, that,

three years ago, did you think that was even possible?

Yeah.

And, you know, look, there are a lot of places you can go and find nonstop criticism of Donald Trump.

Yeah.

That they'll say terrible things and everything he does is the worst thing ever.

Also, there are plenty of places you can go where you find that everything he does is the greatest thing of all time.

I hope you realize that that's not what we do here.

I mean, I, and I,

on a, I said this, and you said this as well when we, when this

was unveiled,

sometimes you can get people are critical of the way Trump handles these situations sometimes, and sometimes there's arguments on that.

Sometimes it's not the best approach.

Like, you know, we were critical of him, for example, of how he handled Canada.

I think, like, you know, probably cost Polyev that election, and I think that's a really bad thing.

I do too.

That being said, this is a great example of where his instincts worked perfectly.

This is all set up over a long period of foundational stuff from his first term with the decision he made to come out and just announce the agreement with Netanyahu.

We agreed.

We agreed to this peace deal.

Now, in theory, we have no position to agree between these two parties, but he came out and said, we agree.

And instead, all of the focus had been, look at all the bad things Israel is doing.

Look at how bad they are.

They're so evil.

They're so bad.

And he came out and said, we've agreed with Israel.

Now we just need Hamas.

And so the world's attention was like, well, what's Hamas going to say?

Finally, he was able to focus the attention in the appropriate place to the party that is holding the hostages to say, hey, how about asking if they want a freaking ceasefire for once?

He was able to do that in a way that I think only Donald Trump could achieve, which leads to this over a long foundation.

And here's another thing.

You know, this guy has walked through wall after wall wall after wall of fire.

Everybody calling him everything, Nazi every day.

Here's a guy who, you know, in a time period when the whole world is like, the Jews control everything.

Donald Trump is run by the Jews.

He not only kept his relationship with Israel solid.

and helped them when he thought they were right, but when they were wrong, in his his view, he chastised them.

He knew how to do it and still hold their respect and gain the respect of places like Qatar and say, so Qatar, when he chastised Benjamin Netanyahu and Benjamin Netanyahu had to, I think, apologize to some degree about what they did in Qatar.

That's when the Middle East went, wait a minute,

he's not being controlled by the Jews.

you know what i mean that that's that that should be a really big wake-up call to everybody who thinks that donald trump is just being controlled by the jews no

no no no he's not he does what he thinks is right and he'll chastise both sides and he'll support either side when they're right to get to a deal that's good for everybody This deal could be amazing.

I don't have any faith, and it's not because of this deal.

I happened to, I read the end of the book, so I know how this ends.

This is not going to, you know, this is.

You skipped ahead?

I skipped ahead.

I skipped ahead.

So, you know, this isn't doing anything.

Don't.

No spoilers.

No spoiler alerts.

Let's just say this might last for, you know,

a week.

It might last for a thousand years.

I don't know.

But, you know, we're going to be in this situation again.

And we all know that.

We all know that.

But let's take and celebrate peace while we can.

And the hostages coming back.

That is

massive,

massive, and due to Donald Trump.

I mean, today, if you don't like Donald Trump, fine, fine.

But how do you take this one apart?

Honestly, how do you not claim this is a massive victory for the whole world?

Well, I can tell you that a lot of the people on the left are rooting for it to collapse, which is a shockingly reveal moment.

I mean,

they are, you know, they're not going to be out there like, we hope this collapses, but you know, they hope it collapses.

They don't want to give Trump credit for it.

And they'd rather have this continue.

They'd rather have this war go on than admit that the reason it's ending is because Donald Trump was able to negotiate this deal.

That is.

I think anybody who has played politics with the Palestinian, you know,

all that stuff and all the stuff on the streets,

that has been a very effective tool for them.

And so I would agree.

They don't want that tool to be taken away.

You think the Hamas wing of the party wants this of the Democratic Party?

You think Rashida Tlaib's all thrilled about Donald Trump's efforts here?

I think we're going to hear from Ilan Omar about

the extremist.

I know, I mean that, though.

I think this is a very revealing dividing line on the left, right?

If there is anything that is ever going to happen that Donald Trump can be given credit for, that you'd think this would be clear.

Like John Fetterman, I mean, Fetterman's obviously been pretty good on this issue, but Fetterman came out and gave a statement that, like, should be basic, basic.

Like, hey, this is good.

I really hope this works.

Like, it was, you know, Donald Trump did a good job on this.

That's the type of stuff that should be obvious for everyone to be able to get out of it.

Tip O'Neill would have done.

Everybody always says, Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan.

They got together.

They disagreed.

They fought hard, but they had dinner.

Yeah, because Tip O'Neill could say, that was good.

That was good.

What he just did was good for all of us.

That worked well.

Good.

I'm glad that happened.

Right.

You should be glad that happened.

I mean, we should all be rooting for the success here, even if what the, what, you know, like I rooted, again, we have all sorts of criticisms of the way Barack Obama, you know, dealt with the Middle East.

But like,

yeah, plenty of them.

And we went over them over and over again.

And plenty of issues with specifically the way he went after Osama bin Laden.

But on the day that it happened, really happy about it.

Very happy.

Very happy that we were able to do it.

Now, look, it's our military that does it.

We we can go through all they can say all this stuff too they can say oh well the real reason is blah blah blah blah blah but like we can still be happy that this occurred and you could still be excited and give credit where credit is

a win for all humankind for humanity for life

stopping hamas from torturing you know uh torturing kidnapped victims, stopping the bloodshed that was happening because of the war on both sides.

That is a win.

Having the possibility of a stable Middle East, at least for a while, that's a win.

That's a win all the way around.

Everyone should be happy.

I don't care if you like the president or not.

Everyone should be happy that

mankind

put one on the chalkboard for all of mankind today.

This is a huge, I've never seen.

This is on the good side.

Never seen this one before.

Didn't see this one coming.

I mean, we should all be able to say, wow.

And thank you.

Because he's the, I really, truly believe when it comes to negotiating things like this, there is nobody better.

I mean, that's what he does for a living.

And he knows it.

He knows how to read a room.

He knows how to read people.

He knows how to work it.

And this is evidence of it.

And he will do things that are so out of the norm that it resets everybody's thinking.

I mean, you know, I mentioned Net Yahoo and I think he would have done that.

If he wouldn't have done that, we wouldn't have all the Middle East signing on to a peace deal.

What would every, look, presidents I respect, what would they have done in a situation

like Trump was with Netanyahu?

Their advisors would have said, look, this is great.

You guys are together on this.

Let's go to Hamas.

We'll talk to them.

We'll see if we can get something done.

We don't want to ruin it by announcing it publicly.

And like, there are times where that tactic might not work, but it worked really well here.

He forced them to basically say, no, we don't want to ceasefire, or, okay, we'll go along with us.

And by the way, you go down that list, there's a lot of stuff.

This is Hamas never, ever having control of this region ever again is built into this agreement.

Now, they've only talked about, you know, they're only on phase one here, so we don't know that we get all of this stuff.

But, like, there's a lot here that really improves the lives of Israelis, of

Arab Israelis in the region,

you know, Palestinians, other Arabs in the region.

Regional Arabia, everybody.

And not to mention just globally, right?

Like that this is a

positive job.

Look what this does.

That's Turkey.

So that separates Turkey from Syria,

which is, you know, right in bed with

Iran.

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i'm uh up on my way to uh north dakota today i'm filling in for charlie kirk um i was supposed to do this with charlie and then charlie died and they asked me if i would just go do it myself so I'm speaking at the University of, I think it's University of North Dakota

and really excited to be there.

I am bringing all kinds of history.

I mean, you can argue with me all you want, but how do you argue with the actual text and the actual documents?

I mean, go ahead, try.

So I'll be teaching things that you do not learn in school,

good and bad, about America.

We'll do that today, and then I'll be back here tomorrow.

Can I play something for you that I heard this morning?

Can you play this?

Play this song for me as I set it up.

So, I come in this morning, and

I'm checking what's trending and everything else.

And on Instagram, go ahead and play it.

On Instagram,

I hear this.

Back again.

I love Soul.

Shady's back.

Tell a friend.

And I

guess we're back.

Guess who back?

I asked Sarah to come in.

What's the app that you use?

Shazam.

I asked her, come in with Shazam.

Can you tell me what song this is?

Nothing.

I go to ChatGPT.

What song is this?

Nothing.

And

it's called

Eminem.

I can't remember.

I've created a monster.

Something, but it's...

It's an M ⁇ M song.

It's M ⁇ M without me.

It's Without Me by Eminem.

And I'm like,

it's touched my heart quicker than a shock.

When I get shot to hit the hospital, it's AI.

Think of this.

It's a soulless

program.

Making souls.

How is this happening?

It's like good, too.

I actually like it.

It's really good.

I like it better than the original.

Yeah, I went down this rabbit hole today of these AI songs where, like, you know, they put, I don't know, the Bee Gees and no, Ray Charles and Van Halen together.

And it was unbelievable.

It's like, how is that happening?

We all said, oh, it'll never be able to do music because that requires a soul.

I don't know.

Here's soul music by AI.

That should.

You're in the creative industry.

You should be like, oh, that's a problem.

I know.

I don't know what to to think about it.

Because, I mean, part of the charm of this stuff is the stories of how it's made and how they come up with it and how it was inspired.

And, like, you know, you watch a behind-the-music documentary about how these things came.

If this story is, I typed it into AI, it's like a bad documentary.

I mean, this is where I go on the idea of prompting.

It still requires somebody to go, what would it sound like if I took that song, made it into a 1950s soul song, 1960 soul song?

And what would that sound like?

Again, a boring story, though, right?

I mean, it's an interesting thought.

It's an interesting 30 seconds of thinking.

No, it's incredible.

Eminem's got to love this because I got to believe.

I mean, if this stuff catches up, you got to pay him royalties.

Who?

Who's paying if it's AI?

Whoever produced this.

Maybe.

Whoever typed in, I got a buying.

At the very least, it probably directs people to stream his song a bunch more times.

I mean, it's amazing.

It's amazing.

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It's every story we talk about every day.

Welcome to the Glenbeck program.

Glad you're here.

We welcome now to the studios the very special, very talented

daughter of mine, Cheyenne Grace.

Hi, thanks for having me.

Yeah, you're welcome, Cheyenne.

She loves it.

Thanks for letting me visit you.

Yeah.

She's always, she's always like, she came in and she's like, I'm going to vomit blood.

No, I was like, dude, I feel like I'm a throw.

But it's, you know, you,

your mom said uh when did you come into town tuesday tuesday

and uh your mom and i were out doing some stuff and she said cheyenne comes in in a couple hours and i had forgotten that you were flying in that day and uh i mean my stomach just jumped i was so excited i just i miss you so much miss you yeah it's been like a good month and a half since i moved so i know it's been

It's been a time, you know?

You were there with Charlie Kirk when.

I was, yeah.

My friends and i uh went to the event uh to go and just kind of see what the environment was like because we've seen it all over tick tock like all of his um events and we just wanted to see what the vibe was like and then things just took a really big turn and it was really scary and we're we're getting through it and it's it's difficult and you know all of our hearts are just with charlie's family and his team and everyone who was close to him knew him anyway it's just it's terrible so many people feel like they knew him even though they didn't i mean because you kind of feel that way don't you?

Did you ever meet Charlie?

I met him once, and he was very kind.

But like you watch him, he was so personal and

personable

and so real that I think a lot of people, even though they never met him, they kind of felt like they were friends.

You know, they knew him.

Yeah, for sure.

That's what a lot of people were saying around like my area.

It was just like, I feel like I lost someone that was close to me.

And I feel like social media has a way of doing that.

If you follow someone for a long time, you feel like you know them with a lot of like your audience as well.

Like I feel like a lot of people are very, oh, I feel like I know them, you know, and that's just, that's the special part about, you know, being able to share stuff on social media is you create this special connection, but it's, it's so hard when you lose someone like that.

Devastating thing to go through.

Yeah.

There has to be something better to talk about than that again.

I just, it's such a traumatic thing.

And what are you up to?

Well, hang on before that.

Let me ask you.

How are you dealing with my trip today?

I'm going to fill in for Charlie.

Yeah, I'm okay.

North Dakota.

I mean, when you told me two weeks ago, it was right after everything happened,

three weeks ago.

However,

a couple weeks ago.

Instantly got very nervous because it was the two days after it happened.

But

I was like, are you crazy?

And then,

you know, I was touching base with some of your team yesterday and just talking about, because I had gotten reached out to you talking about, you know, no, you're still nervous.

And I was just saying, you know, it doesn't really leave you when stuff like that happens.

And when your family is kind of going into that position as well, like, that's scary.

And also the fact that I have an event tonight and I'm going to be on stage while you're there is just, you know,

it's scary, but you know, you're going to do great.

You're going to do great.

So you,

there is the movie that you worked on your very first time on screen.

Yeah.

Can we play a little bit of this?

It's a movie called The Best Thing About Christmas.

Hey, I'm going to go to the end.

One more song.

And she plays a young daughter who is an aspiring music artist.

Yeah.

And she dies pretty quickly.

Oh, I'm not supposed to say that.

Oh, she doesn't die.

What are you talking about?

But.

Alan, if you're watching this,

I'm sorry.

You come on my show, you get what you get.

Dude, everything up here is brand new.

It's gonna take.

So this is being actually labeled as a musical, which I think is really unfair because it's not a music.

You're not breaking out in song in the street.

It's like a single thing.

And it's different types.

It's not musical sounding music.

It's more of a

family opera.

So

when's this coming out?

So we don't have a final release date yet

because the movie's still in post-production.

We're about to get the final film.

But

if you would like to stay updated with when it's going to come out,

you can go and follow the film at the best thing about Christmas movie on their socials.

And then the website is thebestingout Movie.com.

I thought you were going to announce today, I think you did too, you know, some real information, but they just

were going to make an announcement here soon on something that just happened.

Yeah.

And so I think that's really exciting.

Are they

going to announce the end of the movie?

Is that how they're going to,

is that what we're going to do?

Like, how much of it are they just going to give away when they make the announcement?

Are they just going to tell the entire movie?

I didn't think they were planning to give it away at all.

I think that already covered that.

Yeah.

No, yeah.

Because that's an interesting strategy.

But that's kind of the whole thing.

Yeah, actually, you know, how this family, you know.

He's actually Luke's father.

But, yeah.

That was in the trailer, if I remember right.

You're the, you are the worst.

How do you even have this job?

I don't know.

I really don't know.

He's really bad at keeping secrets.

Yes.

Really bad.

Really bad.

Should we focus on her for a minute?

No.

This always happens.

You're not invited to go.

Okay, all right.

Last time I checked, I was having a pretty good sleep last night.

Then I was like, I got to get up for dad's show.

And now here I am.

So

she's been trying out for shows,

you know,

professional.

Yeah,

but you know what?

Getting callbacks.

You are going to spend most of your time getting rejected.

I mean, I don't know how you do that, but

it's hard, you know, but we do it.

We do it.

But there's a difference between being rejected for a show like that and then not being and then being rejected by like McDonald's.

Stop.

Are we really about to talk about like?

Okay, okay.

So I just, so I just moved to Utah, right?

Okay.

And for some reason, I can't get a job to save my life.

Really?

I have applied.

She's not like, she will take any job.

I will take anything.

I don't care.

Like, I am flexible.

Like, I can do whatever.

I can juggle.

I don't know.

Well, I can't juggle.

Whatever.

You're in movies.

You have yet a best-selling album.

No, she will wash the dishes.

She'll flip my bag.

My

main job right now

is to be a barista at Dutch Bros.

Dutch Bros.

I want to work at Dutch Bros so badly.

I don't know why.

Every single time I'm at the window, I pull up and they're like, hey, girl.

And I'm like, hey.

And we vibes all.

I'm like, I need to work there.

So if Dutch Bros is listening.

But they've rejected you at two locations.

Two locations.

I've applied for like 10 jobs.

I've gotten no responses.

But for some reason, I'm like, I can sing, I can dance.

Hire me, please.

Thanks.

Is it possible that they see your last name and then it's like, no, she doesn't.

Are you not using it?

Good.

Actually, no, I have to use my legal.

See, that's the problem.

That's the problem.

Everywhere else, she's like, you know.

I think you were like six and you're like, I'm not using your name, Dad.

No.

I'm not using it because I know

that's going to do for my career.

That's what happens.

People ask me what I do.

I say I work at Dutch Bros.

That's what I say.

No, I'm literally like, that's my cover.

I'm like, I don't know.

I'm a barista.

No, yeah.

The only place that has actually reached out to me to reject me is Starbucks.

And I'm like, oh, that's very nice.

Yeah, but I was like, you're rejecting me?

I'm like, I'm like your number one fan.

Well, yeah.

We will give me the address again of where people can follow the movie.

So if you want to follow up on the movie, their website is thebestthingaboutchristmasmovie.com.

And then you can find all of their socials on Facebook and Instagram

at the best thing about Christmas Movie.

It's a really uplifting.

It's kind of, it's kind of like a.

Now tell us more about the movie, Blaine.

I want to know more.

Please, please spoil this.

It's kind of like a wonderful life that you enjoy the movie, but it's such a great message.

Oh, cool.

It's really a great message.

You sound great.

That was a great, that was an amazing clip.

I feel like there's definitely the risk of in one of those scenes, because for people who couldn't see it, you're on stage at like a bar and you're nervous and you're you're trying to sing.

There's definitely potential for that scene to look cheesy and sound cheesy.

It didn't, though.

That was that was great.

That's actually

the first scene that I filmed when I stepped on set.

They were like, they were like, all right, that's it.

Walk on the set.

First time, never acting, no

film experience.

Nothing.

They were like, day one is our biggest day.

And I was like, barf.

And so I go on, and those are like real, real nerves because I'm singing in front of like probably 50 people people that I had never met.

And I'm like,

I hate it.

And they're all actors and everybody else.

Go ahead and show us what you got.

Yeah, well, this is the same thing they did with in Rocky 4 when Ivan Drago comes out from under

the ground and he had never been in front of these people.

There's a giant crowd there going crazy.

It's supposed to be a Vegas boxing match.

So you may be the next Dolph Lundren.

Wow.

Oh, yeah.

The guns are out here.

All right.

Thanks, Cheyenne.

Yeah, thanks for having me.

You bet.

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Never put your future in another man's saddlebag or your lunch.

You never know where that thing's been.

More Glenn Beck in a Jeff.

Give Dutch bros

balls, put them right through.

I mean,

I have a daughter who wants to work.

She's such a hard worker.

She is so good.

And she's always the one that seeks out the, you know, the loner and is like, come on,

let's go.

And she wants to work.

She doesn't want to live off dad.

And I like want to support that.

So if you're a fan of the show and you work for any of these companies she listed off, like Dutch Bros is her dream, I think.

But she, I mean, she will work her butt off.

And you'll make me so very happy.

Because she's like, I don't want you paying for my rent and stuff.

And I'm like, honey, I don't want to either.

We agree.

We agree.

We are sympathetic on that one.

And if you're at Dutch Bros and you see the last name Beck and you're concerned, like, all the milkshakes will get stolen.

That's not like, that's not her.

That doesn't.

She won't steal them.

Dad has to come and drink them.

Yeah, you're talking about doubling your balance sheet.

Going to be drive-through all the time.

By the way, we were talking earlier about this AI music.

Yeah.

And reminded me that Rolling Stone has released the top 250 songs of the 2000s, of this century.

Top 250.

We are at a quarter century.

Yeah, quarter century.

So, oh my gosh.

I know.

It seems impossible.

Yeah, it does.

And I was kind of shocked at how many of them I had never heard of in my entire life.

And you realize, like, first of all, obviously getting very old.

And you realize that this is

culture's passing me by.

No, you know, not only that, we are getting old, but do you remember back in the 90s, we would go, will we even be alive by 2030?

How old will we be?

It seemed like so far away.

And

still does.

So let's see how many we know.

So let me start at number 11 because he's been in the news lately.

Bad Bunny.

Bad Bunny, number 11.

Ningo Flow.

Ningo Flow.

And Jowell.

And Jowell.

And Randy.

I don't know any of those.

The song is Safara.

Well, that's one song.

S-A-N-B-E-R-A.

There you go.

I assume, again, we're talking in different songs.

I should have read

Cheyenne in here.

She probably would know all this.

Frank Ocean at number 10 with Thinkin' Bout You.

Oh, Thinking Bout You.

Not About You.

And by the way, also not thinking.

Thinking.

Thinking.

Thinking.

About

you.

Number nine.

This one 100% deserves to be in this list.

And I fully mean this and back it.

I totally do.

Britney Spears Toxic.

One of the greatest songs of all time.

Number nine.

maybe the one Britney Spears that I have blocked out.

I don't know.

Oh, are you kidding me?

God, it's one of the greatest songs of all time.

It totally deserves to be there.

Number eight, Radiotech, Idiotech, which

Radio Head,

I certainly know.

Radiohead?

What did I say?

Radiotech?

Yeah.

Radiohead.

Okay.

Radiotech.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Backwards.

I don't really even remember that song in particular, but whatever.

Number seven, Kendrick Lamar, All Right.

Oof.

Huge fan.

That's one of that best.

Number six.

That's the best we can do.

That is from 2015.

Number six, from 2010.

Robin dancing on my own.

Ooh, and

six.

Number six.

Number five, you may have heard of her, Taylor Swift.

All too well from 2012.

But I can't place that.

I'm sure

because my daughter listens to her constantly.

You could play Taylor Swift all day long, and I would not reckon

something familiar there.

Nope.

Not at all.

And I'm happy to say I have not missed that part of my life.

Really?

I'm not going to look back and go, I should have listened to more Taylor Swift.

Number four, and I think this deserves to be in this conversation, the White Stripes Seven Nation Army.

It's constantly played at every sporting event.

And, you know, that's why I don't know it.

You definitely know that song.

100% know that song.

Number three, Beyonce featuring Jay-Z Crazy in Love from 2003.

Number two,

the yeah, yeah, yeah,s and their hit, Maps.

Ah, if you remember that, that's Google Maps.

Is that it's the same

exact song.

And number one, you've heard this song.

The next available opportunity, turn around.

That's my favorite part of Maps.

Really?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah.

That is, yeah.

Yeah.

It's just a GPS voice.

It's just a GPS voice.

It's actually singing.

Yeah.

Number one, the number one song of the last 25 years.

25 years.

Missy Elliott, Get Your Freak On.

Which is number.

This list is going to be dug up in a thousand years.

And they're going to go, do we need to dig any further?

This is why their society collapsed.

Really?

Do we bury it again?

Stop digging.

Start burying.

Excuse me.

Historians, we have the answer.

We know what happened to their civilization.

This is Glenn Beck.