Biden’s FEMA Put Conservatives on Secret Blacklist?! | Guests: Max Tegmark & Kevin Freeman | 10/22/25

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The Democrats claim that President Trump is weaponizing the government by indicting James Comey and John Bolton. But what if Glenn were to tell you that a new report shows FEMA kept disaster aid from people who held conservative views? Will the Left be outraged by this obvious political weaponization? Glenn and Stu examine the No Kings protest data, which reveals that the majority of the protests occurred in heavily blue areas. The guys also discuss the terrifying numbers of Democrats who believe violence is the answer for conservatives they disagree with. MIT physics professor Max Tegmark joins to discuss his bipartisan initiative calling for a “prohibition on the development of superintelligence.” Max lays out why artificial superintelligence poses such a risk to society. BlazeTV host of “Economic War Room” Kevin Freeman joins to discuss the existential threats to Western civilization that America is facing. Texas attorney general candidate Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) joins to expose the threat that Sharia law poses to America as Europe falls apart.
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Hello, America.

We've got an amazing podcast for you today.

I want to share several things.

First of all,

we have an update on the Islamification of America, something that people are not really paying attention to, and it is stunning.

We'll have all of the facts on that.

We also have Chip Roy to talk a little bit about maybe getting rid of the filibuster.

Not something I'm thrilled about, but there's lots of caveats with that, and I want to talk to him about it.

We'll get all the straight scoop from him.

Also, a guy I've wanted to talk to for a long time, he called me out of the blue last week named Max Tegmark, a guy who is an AI scientist and ethicist and really quite brilliant, wrote the book Life 3.0.

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So he's coming on to talk about super intelligence and a really important thing he needs your help with.

And I believe it is critical.

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But first, I really want to start with

the weaponization of government.

Because everybody is like, oh, poor James Comey, look what's happening.

Now, the same people that didn't realize that, oh, maybe it's weaponization of government,

you're taking the presidential candidate off the ballot.

You've banned him from all social media, and you're trying to put him in jail.

That didn't bother you.

But James Comey and John Bolton, who, by the way,

the investigation started during the last administration under Joe Biden, so that's weird.

But they don't recognize what has just been announced, and nor will they talk about it.

You won't hear about this on the old mainstream media, but it's important that you know about it.

It is true weaponization of government.

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They've said it it a million times over and over again

without ever asking

who actually held the trigger here.

But for a moment, just for the case of this argument, let's just say all of that was true.

Let's say Trump had used the power of the state to punish those two people who had crossed him.

People like Bolton

and Comey.

Just say, for the sake of argument, that's all true.

These are men who sat in the highest rooms of power.

They have lawyers, they have money, they have microphones.

If that were true, it would be ugly.

It would be dangerous, and it would be limited.

Because what we just learned from the Department of Homeland Security is something far, far worse.

This time, the target is not a political rival.

It's not a Washington insider.

It was

you.

There is new news that is coming out today, according to the DHS Privacy Office report, which was launched after a bunch of whistleblowers came forward, that now

says that FEMA did not mishandle just a few cases.

They kept notes.

They were making a list.

They tracked

Americans, their political and religious beliefs during disasters, not in theory, in black and white.

Let me give you some of the quotes.

Angry political rant.

Sign in yard states, I'm a bitter gun owner clinging to my religion.

Homeowner had a sign stating, This is Trump country.

These are not comments, you know, about storm patterns.

These are comments about people.

And when these people were flooded, they were homeless, they were desperate, and asked for help from the same government that preaches compassion and equity, they got something entirely different.

They got silence, delay, and sometimes nothing at all.

The DHS report now confirms, quote, FEMA violated the Privacy Act of 1974 by collecting and storing data tied to protected speech.

They were checking bumper stickers and writing you down in a book.

They logged gun signage 72 times, Trump 15 times, firearms five times, Biden twice.

The FEMA workers then, and we told you all this, but it was a conspiracy theory.

Now it has been proven.

FEMA workers skipped homes if you had a MAGA flag or a yard sign.

And then they left notes.

There was a political fire.

There was a political flyer, I'm quoting, so I didn't leave a FEMA brochure.

Quote, we don't recommend anyone visit this location, end quote.

That's not a clerical error here.

That's a blacklist.

This is the same agency that airlifts people off of rooftops after hurricanes, that distributes food and shelter when nothing else works.

And they were told to avoid Americans because who they voted for.

Not terrorists, not criminals, citizens.

You.

I will tell you, I have been in disaster after disaster.

Much of it, not of my own creating, but

natural disaster all over the world.

I have shown up at the hurricanes and the floods and the tornadoes with help.

And not once did it even occur to me to ask you, what's your political affiliation?

Not once did I even, did it even occur to any of us to say, where do you stand on the Second Amendment?

Who did you vote for?

What do you believe?

What church do you go to?

Never.

Do you believe in God?

Never.

That is absolutely 100% un-American.

Un-American.

I read this report.

The floods in Florida and the tornadoes in Tennessee and the hurricanes in South Carolina, where people waited for days for aid that never came.

And when it did come because of pressure from people like us, survivors, Americans who lost everything, received a $700 check.

$700.

Meanwhile, billions are being funneled to illegal immigrants, to foreign wars, to bureaucracies studying climate equity.

And now we know why.

Because they were busy making notes about bumper stickers.

I read this this morning and I saw it firsthand, but I couldn't prove it.

But I saw it firsthand and I reported on it at the time.

But they could say it was an isolated incident.

And I couldn't prove otherwise.

We can now.

The report is now out.

This is as un-American as our withdrawal in Afghanistan.

Why was that so offensive?

Because we

left in A, humiliation.

That's the least of my concerns.

We left in humiliation.

We betrayed all of our allies and we left people behind.

We never leave people behind.

Never.

That's one of our highest rules.

You don't leave people behind.

One of the biggest things about Americans is that we are generous.

We are good.

We're charitable.

We help everybody.

We are the world's lifeboat.

And now we find out we had a president and an administration that was making a political list, a blacklist, where they would not give aid

to Americans who were suffering.

You're taking my tax dollars,

and if I happen to be the one that needs aid, I don't get coverage

because of who I voted for?

It's the most offensive thing I've heard of our country ever doing on aid.

Ever.

Can you remember anything like this?

Ever?

I mean, they say democracy dies in darkness.

Yeah, well, why don't you shine a light on some of these things?

It doesn't die in darkness.

It apparently is dying in databases.

The FEMA database quietly flags citizens as politically undesirable.

Let me ask you this.

What would the media have said or done if Donald Trump had ignored those who lost their homes in California after the ravaging fire?

If he didn't just show up, it would be bad enough, right?

But he showed up.

He brought his cabinet with him.

He brought FEMA.

He brought relief.

He tried to cut all of the red tape in California.

Couldn't get that done.

But he was there.

Can you imagine if he just hadn't have shown up, which Biden never did, if he hadn't have shown up, worse yet, can you imagine what would be said if you found out

that Donald Trump, his FEMA, was making a list and saying they voted for Gavin Newsom.

They voted for Joe Biden.

No help for them on their house.

Can you imagine the outrage?

I would be outraged.

I am just as outraged that it happened under the last last administration.

Why?

Why am I outraged?

Because it cannot happen.

It cannot happen under any administration.

You allow this to happen and stand.

Good luck, America, on what you have left.

Will anything be done?

Will anyone go to jail?

Will the left be outraged by this?

You want to talk about no kings?

What is a king

other than let that surf die?

We don't care about those guys.

They aren't for the king.

You know, Mercury One has already rebuilt homes.

We're moving people back into their homes every single day.

I know it.

Because I watched Mercury One do it.

But not in California.

We've tried in California.

Gavin Newson, the Democrats, they're not helping those people.

They won't allow any help for those people.

Their own voters, they don't care about.

If you get in the way of this leftist administration, these leftists, you get in the way, it doesn't matter.

Ends justify the means.

Let them die.

You know, they keep warning you about authoritarianism, but here it is, cloaked in compassion, branded with a FEMA logo.

This wasn't rogue, not a rogue agent.

This is not a one-off scandal.

This was a database.

The DHS investigation says political bias was systematic, dating back to at least September 2021.

That means that while the administration accused conservatives of conspiracy theories,

it was literally compiling lists.

And the media went right along with it.

And will the media ever tell you this story?

When what was her name, the FEMA administrator Criswell testified before Congress in 2021, she said, this was an isolated case.

Well, unfortunately,

your files tell a different story.

It's not isolated.

It was national and it was deliberate.

Homeland Security Secretary Christina said, quote, for years, FEMA employees under the Biden administrations intentionally delayed much-needed aid to Americans suffering from natural disasters on purely political grounds.

This is not your political enemy.

This is your neighbor.

That's not mismanagement.

That's moral rot.

This is not just another Washington scandal.

This is a betrayal of the covenant between citizen and state.

But they're not going to tell you that.

Media won't talk to you about that.

The Democrats won't do a damn thing about this.

No one on that side will condemn this.

But they'll talk to you all day today about how Trump is destroying the White House.

Oh my gosh, he's destroying the White House and he's spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a ballroom of his own money.

and other people who are donating.

And you know what?

They're not donating in secret.

It's all listed right there.

They don't go through Arabella Advisors or the Tides Foundation.

They give it straight and it's reported straight.

So you know who built that building.

My gosh.

They'll report on the White House today, but they're not going to report on your house.

you know, when FEMA didn't show up because you were on their list.

The moment this government decides that you are less worthy of rescue because of how you vote, your faith, your flag, a bumper sticker,

you don't need

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The republic is dead.

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It ceases to exist.

You do have a king.

You know, weaponizing law enforcement against against political opponents is really bad, but weaponizing disaster relief against ordinary citizens, people standing on their roof waiting for a helicopter that never comes, is something absolutely pitch black dark.

If your politics can determine whether you live or die,

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That one just gets my blood boiling.

And it's bad enough that it happened.

But you know what makes everything so much worse?

Nobody's going to pay for it.

It's not going to be corrected.

It'll be out there.

That person that you're going to have Thanksgiving with that's going to argue about Donald Trump being such a bad guy will never hear this story.

They'll never hear it.

And when you say it, they won't believe it.

I just heard that from some

But I mean, you have, you're speaking of President Trump, a guy who's in charge who does care very much about this type of stuff.

No, he does.

So I think it's a good a chance that someone could pay for it.

But yes, but you can't.

They'll call that weaponizing of government.

They will call it that.

I know.

But you can't have a country if you don't have truth.

If you keep telling half the country, you know what they're saying about J.D.

Vance now?

He's worse than Donald Trump.

Of course.

Of course.

Everything.

How do you get worse than Hitler?

Is he Satan?

How do you get worse than Hitler?

Is it like the doublement twins of Hitler?

How do you do that?

Stalin?

No.

I mean,

arguably.

It is.

It's astounding to me.

I mean, first of all, they do that every time.

It's not new.

They said that about Mitt Romney.

Yeah.

Mitt Romney was worse.

He's going to be Hitler.

Yeah.

Giuliani, when he was leading the race before that, years before that.

Every single time they do it, and that's just not going to ever change but i mean i think there is some hope for these sort of egregious actions to be punished in this administration i mean they definitely seem like they don't like to forget this stuff no i know and they shouldn't forget this one there's got to be a way to where we can get out of our own echo chambers i mean you cannot pierce the veil of about 40 of the country no it's true you just can't pierce it they just won't listen they just and they don't care they don't believe it.

Ignorant.

Absolutely.

When they're marching for no kinks and you ask them some questions, they can't answer the questions.

Ignorance.

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Tonight, on my Wednesday night special, I'm going to be talking and showing you the details and mapping it all out where this money for no kings where that movement came from we now have a better estimate uh we now we now know that at least two hundred and ninety four million dollars

two hundred

over a quarter of a billion dollars to do that no kings thing okay and for what what do we

have no idea do we have a Does anyone feel an impact of it?

It really feels like nothing.

Oh, it was.

It was but that that this was a giant 300 million dollar ad campaign here are the big big donors arabella advisors did i did a whole show on arabella advisors and how bad they are 80 million dollars george soros 72 million dollars the tides foundation 45 million dollars ford foundation 51 rockefeller 28 rockefeller ford

soros

oligarchs i mean this, you are so stupid.

I feel bad for you.

I really do.

I really do, because you're enslaving yourself to oligarchs and you have no effing idea what you're doing.

I mean, you don't, I mean, you're just so, you're that stupid.

This is where we are now.

This is this is what this is.

We've risen to this level.

I'm sorry.

Or fallen to it.

I'm sorry.

I just, I can't.

I mean, I just can't.

Now, I can understand the frustration.

And, you know,

we were told this was 7 million people

over 2,500 different events, which is a pretty big footprint.

And I feel nothing like I again, I don't live in an area, maybe the central part of this, though I do remember in in our area around here that there were George Floyd rallies.

Like that felt like, again, had an impact, a lot of an impact on buildings falling to the ground because they were on fire.

But yeah, there was

there was some, there was an impact of that.

You felt that.

The No Kings thing feels like nothing.

It's a joke.

It seems seems like a costume party.

Part of it, I think, is the fact that, and I don't feel like a lot of people have talked about this, but this was basically only occurring in a couple of really left-wing states.

Have you seen the map of the concentration of where these events and where the showing was?

Look at this.

Three states.

I mean, three states.

It's California, Illinois, and New York.

That is it.

Now, there's a little bit in Minnesota, a little bit in Washington.

Outside of that, there's almost nothing across the country.

This is a map shaded in different color shades of blue.

The dark blue occurs only in New York, Illinois, and California.

I'm proud to say that the closer to white it gets, the fewer things.

I am proud to say my one of the place where I have a ranch, Idaho,

completely white.

The white

union Glen.

Of course, that's where you are.

Of course, that's where Glenbeck goes.

Whitest, white town, Pastyville, Glenn Beck.

But I mean, that's incredible, right?

Like almost all of these rallies happened in three far left-wing states where we rarely ever see a single-digit race, right, statewide for Democrats.

They're always winning by double digits.

That tells the story, right?

Like, this is a lot of people from states that were already blue going and having a little party together during the day.

You have the video of Pat played it this morning.

Yeah, here it is.

Play this video.

This is a nursing nursing home, okay?

Okay.

This video is taken of a nursing home and everyone coming out of the nursing home to go get on a bus and go to one of the rallies.

They're in wheelchairs and walkers, every single one of them, wheelchairs and walkers.

And it's just sad and pathetic.

I mean, look at this.

They're emptying out nursing homes.

$294 million.

Now, if you really cared about things,

you really cared about things, you know, with $294,000, $94 million, you could take 20,000 homeless and you could put them in a house, give them rent for a year.

A year.

I don't know.

You know how many addiction recovery places you could build, open, and pay for?

You know how many entire housing blocks you could build for $294 million?

a quarter of a billion dollars, and they spent it bussing people from nursing homes?

Wow.

It shows you they're, I mean, they don't get, I mean, at least they're wasting their money.

You have to factor in, though, that those people would have rent in apartments under a government run by a king.

That's what you have not factored in.

Yeah.

And that's why Rockefeller and Ford and Gates and Soros are running to your rescue.

Right.

Right.

That's what I guess we're supposed to take from it.

Yeah, right.

I keep being fascinated by the fact that, like, you know, we've been playing clips here.

I played some on my show as well of these people

who are being interviewed on camera,

calmly,

rationally outlaying their

philosophy about how

Donald Trump, Charlie Kirk, other conservatives should be murdered.

Like calmly just laying it out.

This is how I feel.

And it's not angry.

You know, there's some people who are angry.

They're getting in fights with people.

But mostly calmly and rationally laying out their plans for these people to die, the excitement that they would have if they do die,

the reasons why they should die.

Over and over and over again.

Now, I didn't see a lot of that coverage in the mainstream media.

I didn't see those people, for some reason, they just couldn't locate them.

Despite the fact that they had large signs advocating for these deaths, they couldn't locate them to talk to them apparently at any of these rallies.

Only conservatives with their iPhones could find those people.

But those people were all over these events.

And it was, you know, it's one thing.

And you can maybe even have a little grace if you want to be really, really genteel about the world, understanding that sometimes people get fired up, they are angry, they're screaming at, like, you know, they get cornered by a conservative.

They get, you know, they start.

That's not what this was.

That's not what a lot of this was.

A lot of it was just like calm and rational thought.

Here's my political philosophy.

People I don't agree with should die.

And just outlining it in 30-second, minute-long clips over and over and over and over again.

That is not a healthy

thing.

I saw women say,

I'd kill them.

I'd absolutely kill them.

I had the opportunity.

Yes, I would kill them.

World would be a better place.

You know, one lady, what would your birthday present be?

Oh, I hope to wake up and see the obituary that we're all hoping for.

Are you saying that you want President Trump to die?

Yes.

That's what they say.

That's not what I say.

That's what they say, to be clear.

That is a fascinating thing.

And I was talking about.

We never said that about,

we never said anything like that about Joe Biden.

No, of course not.

I know, but I don't.

I don't say that about anyone.

No, neither do I.

But I mean, you know, you could say it's political rhetoric.

No, it's not political rhetoric.

It's not.

No.

I've never engaged in that.

You're

hanging out with Megan Kelly in Fort Worth at a show at Dickey's Arena this weekend, megankelly.com if you want to go.

I will be there trying to figure out ways to sabotage you.

But thank you.

No problem.

But I was talking to her yesterday and she said something that I think is

really

true and kind of stunning to hear, which is like, she says, like, I didn't know this was out there.

Like, I didn't know this was real.

And I feel the same way.

Like, I talk to liberals.

I talk to them, people on the left all the time in my normal life.

And to be fair, they don't seem like that at all.

I don't know that I've ever met anyone like that.

But apparently, they're all over the place.

Yeah, I have.

I know people like that.

I know people like that.

That want conservatives to just die.

Yeah, that think the world would be a much better place if somebody would just kill them.

That's terrifying.

Yeah, it is.

But I know them.

I know them.

I want

conservative ideas to persuade liberals into becoming conservatives.

I want constitutional principles to become in vogue enough to become powerful and to run this country the way it should be run.

I don't want any liberals to die in that process because some psychotic person calling themselves a conservative shoots them,

lights their house on fire, kidnaps them.

Any of these things.

And you know what's really stunning, I guess, in this world is that's really easy for me to say.

It's really easy for you to say that.

It's not, there's not a moment where I'm like, oh, gosh, I don't know.

How do I feel about this?

It's easy because I'm a human being.

Did you see the...

So in other words, you would say if somebody's on their roof and the water's coming in.

And you had access to a helicopter, you would take that helicopter, fly it, and save those people, no matter how they voted.

No matter how they voted.

Oh, that's interesting.

And that's it.

See how this is an easy decision.

See how this is related, though?

It's very closely related.

It is a culture of death.

Play the audio here, Sarah.

You were just talking about.

Go ahead.

There's no other way I'd want to celebrate my birthday than with my parents and my best friend fighting for our country.

Okay, so for a birthday present, what do you hope happens?

You know, you wake up tomorrow morning.

I hope that I see the obituary that we're all waiting for tomorrow.

That's what I hope for.

Well, shouldn't have President Trump is dead?

Yes, absolutely.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Okay.

Absolutely.

Wow, she just can't stop with that.

Absolutely.

She wishes to be very sure you know.

No, she's absolutely, absolutely sure.

Listen to this one, though.

This is the one I was talking.

One of the ones I was talking about.

Listen to this.

We need to get ourselves together.

And we might even need to be a little bit meaner because the Republicans don't mind being mean.

And by mean, what do you mean?

Do you mean protesting?

Do you mean...

Maybe we have to, I don't know, stop being so nice.

Because you seem like a pretty nice lady.

I'm a pretty nice lady, but I can be pretty mean, too.

Okay, and I have to ask this because people on the other side are going to say that they feel like the Democrat Party has been mean.

Recently, with Charlie Kirk being assassinated, they.

He's a piece of garbage.

Of course, we were mean.

I am so tired of people saying, oh, but, you know, it's a terrible thing.

No, Hitler is dead.

I'm glad Hitler's dead.

Evil people have no place in

my world.

He was a hateful human being.

It was disgusting the things that he said and did.

Really?

You know, I don't have time for that.

I'm sorry.

I have to point my energy in other directions.

Wow.

That's phenomenal.

It's phenomenal.

Let me play something.

This is a TED Talk, okay?

I want you to listen how the left is now, this is the former CEO of Wikimedia, okay?

She's doing a TED Talk,

and she's talking about truth and the importance of truth.

I want you to listen to this carefully.

Go ahead, got 39.

But one of the most significant differences, critical for moving from polarization to productivity, is that the Wikipedians who write these articles aren't actually focused on finding the truth.

They're working for something that's a little bit more attainable, which is the best of what we can know right now.

And after seven years there, I actually believe that they're onto something that for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the truth and seeking to convince others of the truth isn't necessarily the best place to start.

In fact,

I think our reverence for the truth might become, might have become

a bit of a distraction that is preventing us from finding consensus and getting important things done.

Right?

None of that's to say that the truth isn't important.

The truth obviously exists.

It's at the core, or the search for the truth, is at the core of some of our greatest human achievements.

It can animate and inspire us to do, learn, and create great things.

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No, it's not.

The truth.

is universal the truth doesn't line up to you

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You don't have the truth.

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You're right.

You're right.

I was wrong.

You line to the truth.

You don't have the truth line up to how you feel.

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We just had a Hitler mention a moment ago.

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Exactly right.

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You know, we are at the beginning of AI.

It seems everything is AI-powered now.

Wonderbred, now AI-powered.

And nobody really knows what that means.

And really what people lack an understanding on, what does the future hold if this tool ever becomes the master?

That's called artificial general intelligence and then artificial superintelligence.

Artificial superintelligence is the master.

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intelligent life.

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right now.

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I talked to a guy, I'm a big fan of Max Techmark.

He wrote the book, Life 3.0.

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Life in the age of AI.

And it'll it'll give you some understanding of what life is going to be like now a lot has changed since he wrote the book and he is very concerned he is an MIT physicist or physics professor and he's very concerned about this race to ASI artificial super intelligence so he has put together along with

a lot of really brilliant minds, just a really simple statement.

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Welcome to the program, Max Tegmark.

It is an honor to have you on.

I've been a fan of yours for a very long time.

It's an honor for me to be here.

So, Max, I'm seeing the statement that you have put out, and let's just, can we go through it?

Here it is.

We call for a prohibition on the development of super intelligence, not lifted before there is broad scientific consensus that it would be done safely and controllably, and a strong public buy-in.

That's the whole statement, right?

That's it.

And what do you hope?

Because I've seen who you have signing.

I mean, here's the first five

signatories already.

Steve Wozniak, Sir Richard Branson, Steve Bannon, Glenn Beck, Susan Rice, Prince Harry, Yaval Harari, which is mind-boggling to me.

You have all of these leaders from all walks of life.

You have faith leaders

and it runs the spectrum.

What is it that we all have in common here?

Yeah, and you also have

the most cited scientists in the world, Joshua Benjo and Stephen and

Jeff Hinton.

They're like the Einstein and Oppenheimer

of today

who developed much of this technology and pioneering work,

saying their own work.

They're scary.

What these people all have in common, it was hilarious to see people express confusion and say, this is such a bewilderingly diverse group of people.

Why aren't they even agree on anything?

It's because they're all human.

And this is a question about, do we want a future where machines work for humans or

a future which is all about the machines?

So can you stop

super intelligence?

I mean, we've had a conversation on this.

You know, Sam Altman believes he's creating God.

And

that's a terrifying.

And there's a lot of people in Silicon Valley that want to meet God

of their creation.

How do you stop this?

China is rushing towards it.

We're rushing towards it.

How do you stop it?

Well,

let's start by talking just a little bit more about what Sam Altman and people

and these folks want, and then I promise I'll tell you how we can stop it.

Okay.

It's very doable.

I was just looking this morning at some of the early writings of Sam Altman before

his media team started telling him to tone down the rhetoric a little bit.

This is a direct quote from a blog he wrote called The Merge, where he says, we will be the first species ever to design our own descendants.

My guess is that we can either be the biological bootloader for digital intelligence and then fade into an evolutionary tree branch.

How does that sound to you as an optimistic future for our children?

Or we can figure out what a successful merge looks like.

So he's arguing in this piece that we should merge with machines.

And

the average person listening to us right now on this program,

who asks them if they want to merge with machines or if they want the kids to work to merge with machines?

I was just playing with my two-year-old son Leo this morning.

I that

the biggest assault on American democracy is in 1776.

Someone is going to force my son to merge with machines without him or

his parents or anyone really having a say on this.

It's completely nuts that a bunch of dudes in San Francisco

who've had too much Red Bull to drink should get to make these sort of decisions for the rest of us.

For all of humanity.

Yeah,

indeed.

The race, though, is on.

So how do you stop it?

Well, first of all,

the

lobbyists from these companies keep trying to convince us that it's unstoppable.

That's the number one psyop trick in the book, right?

If a big, powerful country invades another country, the first thing they're going to try to persuade those who are invaded is, oh, we're unstoppable.

Don't bother fighting us.

It's pointless, right?

So we have to be a bit suspicious when the same people saying it's unstoppable are actually

many of you working for the companies.

Second, let's just look at the logic.

The argument is you can never stop a new technology that can give a lot of money and power.

Because that's just historically false.

I could make so much money on human cloning if I could if I could clone you, Glenn, and a bunch of other talented people,

mess with your DNA and tweak you and sell your services.

We didn't do that as a society.

There was a big discussion about this in the 70s, and the consensus around the world was

we could lose control over our species if we start messing

with ourselves in that way.

And it became so stigmatized, it just didn't happen.

There is a guy.

Wasn't there a guy who did it?

Wasn't there somebody in

China or what?

Yes, actually.

So this is such a great thing that you bring up.

People often say, well, if we don't do it, China's going to do it.

Well, there was a dude in China who did it, and guess what the Chinese government did with him?

They sent him to jail.

Because they thought human cloning was a really bad idea.

And, you know, the Chinese government, the Chinese Communist Party, they really like control.

So the idea that they're going to let some

oddball in China do something that could

lose control over the human species

doesn't land well there, right?

So this is where the optimism comes to your first question, how can we stop this?

There is a race, of course,

for dominance between the U.S.

and China.

But there are actually two races going on here.

There is a dominance race, economic dominance, military dominance, technological, cultural dominance.

And the way to win that race is by building tools that are controllable.

Whereas there's a second race, you see, who can be the first to build superintelligence that we lose control over and that wipes out humanity, maybe?

That's a suicide race.

The way the U.S.

or China

will compete for dominance isn't possible by doing something that's going to take away the power from both countries.

I think of this as just really analogous to something that happened already, the

Cold War with the Soviet Union.

There there were also two races.

There was a race for dominance, economic, the military, and we Americans won that one.

And then there was a suicide race to see who can put the most nuclear creators in the other country.

And both the Americans are and the Soviets ultimately decided to not nuke each other, just not engage with that suicide race.

Why?

Was it because Reagan and Brezhnev got on a stage and looked each other in the eye and hugged each other and promised not nuke each other?

No.

There wasn't that kind of trust, but it also wasn't necessary because we knew,

the Soviets knew that it was suicide to try to nuke us.

We knew that they knew, and vice versa.

And that's all it took.

to avoid the suicide race.

And so the suicide you're talking about with ASI is if China gets it, China would know we'll lose control of their control freaks, and we'll lose control of our own country.

We won't be in control.

ASI will be running everything, right?

Exactly.

Exactly.

Exactly.

So

how do you deal then with people like Sam Altman?

I mean, I would imagine, I mean, because they're going to be people who have, you know, labs and

compute time

to be able to pursue this.

Can you catch those people before they go down that road?

That even possible?

It certainly is possible.

You know

it's of course

in the interest of these companies to make us think it's impossible, right?

So we shouldn't try.

But it's very possible because look, we do this with every other industry.

Let's look at biotech, for example, the industry that is now not doing human cloning, right?

But they're doing fine, making a ton of money on other medicines, right?

And

once upon a time, there were no regulations on biotech.

They could sell any medicine they wanted in the supermarket.

And

sometimes this caused tragedies.

Sometimes it caused tragedies in China because it was unregulated there.

Sometimes it caused tragedies here.

In the US,

There was this drug called salidomide, you probably remember, right?

It caused over 100,000 American babies to be born without arms or legs.

And that triggered so much anger that we got the political will to regulate biotech.

We created safety standards, the FDA, and now there's actually a ban on selling unapproved medicines in the U.S.

We can argue about how one could make that system less efficient, more efficient, eliminate corruption and stuff like that, but I don't know any series of scientists or people in biotech who wanted to abolish the FCA and then legalize thalidomide, right?

And we've done the same thing with every other industry.

Even if you go to San Francisco to visit one of these tech companies and you go for lunch across the street, that restaurant, before they can sell their first sandwich, had to have a health inspector check their kitchen and and show that they met some basic safety standards.

So saying that AI companies should be the only companies in America that don't have to meet any safety standards is really just asking for corporate welfare for AI companies of a kind that we don't give to any other company.

Okay, hang on just a second.

I have to take a one-minute break.

I want you to read this statement.

They're asking for signatures.

I have signed on to it.

There are plenty of people who I disagree on almost everything that have signed on to it.

There's plenty of people that are my friends that have signed on to it.

Really, really brilliant people, faith leaders, et cetera, et cetera.

I think the reason why it's so diverse is because this is it.

This is the end of humanity if we lose control of

our technology.

It will become a master and not a tool.

And I want you to go to futureoflife.org, futureoflife.org, look for the super intelligence statement.

It was just released a couple of hours ago, superintelligence statement.org.

You can go there and find it or at futureoflife.org and sign it.

And

I want to ask Max

what your signature means

and

what is this going to be used for?

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So what is your goal with this statement, Max?

Yes.

Just for your reader, for our listeners here, FutureLife-statement.org is where you can go and add your support for this if you'd like.

The goal of this statement is to make it publicly known that if you're concerned about this,

you're not crazy.

You're not alone.

You you have an incredible amount of support from um

thought leaders across the political spectrum here.

Uh up until now, a lot of people who who have this horrible feeling that this is nuts, right, are afraid of speaking up because they tell me people a lot of people have told me this because they don't want to sound like Luddite, scaremongers, you know.

Now

is the time to

to speak up and say what you think, because we this is this is this is it, Glenn.

You're so right.

You know, the really the reason we're seeing such a remarkably

broad group of people agreeing on this is because that's also what would happen if we actually got invaded by aliens from space, just like you said in the beginning, right?

If some weird spaceships start showing up and shooting at us,

everybody is going to team up on team Um

and

that's what happens now.

And that's fundamentally also why we can stop this, because

almost nobody wants this.

We also just released a poll showing that less than 5% of Americans actually want a

race to superintelligence.

That's less than one in 20 Americans, right?

And yet we're having this stuff shut down our throats.

Max, I can't thank you enough for this

and all that you're doing.

We need to have more conversations about artificial intelligence, artificial superintelligence, general intelligence.

The world is going to change and millions of jobs are either going to change or be lost.

And it depends on how we apply AI.

It's not something to fear if you realize it is a tool and you are the master.

But too many people are just going to use this.

Their brain is going to go soft and they will let it take control of their lives and answer their, you know, make their decisions, etc.

And then if it becomes general intelligence or super intelligence, you're a slave to it.

And it has to stop.

It has to stop.

So if you would like to sign this, I have signed it and I urge you to sign this.

It's a very simple statement.

We call for a prohibition on the development of super intelligence not lifted before there's a broad scientific consensus that it will be done safely and controllably and a strong public buy-in.

That's all you're signing.

And you can go to superintelligence-statement.org.

I found it at futureoflife.org and you can, you'll find it there as well.

You scroll down the page, but superintelligence-statement.org.

I urge you to sign it and to pass it on to somebody else.

This is a conversation we must have.

MIT physics professor and author of Life 3.0, Max Tegmark.

Great talking to you, Max.

Thank you.

Can I just say one final thought?

You can, but I just happened to network break.

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This is the Glenn Beck program from MIT.

Professor Max Tegmark, the author of Life 3.0,

and a great mind on AI and somebody who's as concerned about ASI or artificial superintelligence as I am.

And Max, I know you want to

say one more thing, and I think I know what it's regarding, and let me set you up, I think, with this.

I talk to people all the time,

and they fall sometimes into a category of, yes, artificial intelligence is bad.

It's going to be really...

And I

look at it as a tool that as long as we always control it, it's okay.

It's actually really, really good and helpful.

Would you agree or disagree with that?

Exactly.

It's so profound that you're bringing up this thing about a tool.

Now,

a tool,

to me, is something you can control, right?

Your car is a tool, Glenn, because it's built with a steering wheel and a brake, so you can control it, right?

Super intelligence, on the other hand, is not a tool because we can't control it.

Now

you can think of the statement, in other words, it's not saying that we should ban AI, but we should just ban non-tool AI, AI that isn't a tool.

And you know, I had a friend who died of cancer just last month.

It was very tragic.

And they told her that it was an incurable cancer.

Of course, it's not incurable in principle.

If we can use AI tools to figure out how to cure cancer, which I believe we can, and my work at MIT is very much focused on making AI controllable, right?

Then we can do wonderful things with this.

But you don't need uncontrollable superintelligence to cure cancer.

We can do it with tool AI.

You don't need crazy super intelligence to have self-driving cars or make your business more productive or do any of the things that people who listen to this may want AI to do.

In fact, the best way to squander all the upside we can have

in making Americans healthy and wealthy and prosperous with AI tools is if we don't have a law that says it's got to be a tool.

And instead we just throw the game and

lose control over the whole thing.

You know, I talked to you off the air last week or week before last, and I was so glad that you reached out to me because I was going to reach out to you and I have for several years trying to get you on the air.

But

you reached out because of this

statement and wanted to get some attention on it, and I'm thrilled to do that.

But I said to you, I think we also have to look at life, the definition of life.

And I've been working on a constitutional amendment, and I haven't revealed it yet because I still have some people looking at it, and I'd love for you to look at it.

How important do you think it is that we not only define AI as a tool, but a tool that has zero human rights.

I think it's very important.

You don't give human rights to a hammer or or to a car.

And

even though some people in Silicon Valley are very into this transhumanist idea that somehow humans should merge with machines and blah, blah, blah,

we

have freedom in how we build AI.

And there's absolutely no morally good reason to go in that direction.

I would love to have a constitutional amendment

to the effect, you know, I'm not a lawyer, but where the gist of it is that only humans have moral agency, and there should never be any right to vote or any kind of human rights granted to machines.

And we shouldn't try to build machines that you would even want to give any human rights to either.

So, how do you deal with somebody like Elon Musk, which I can't ever put my finger on him?

You know,

he's

building the brain interface, and part of it is his own statement saying that we're going to have to accept transhumanism.

We're going to have to merge with the machine, or you will not be able to keep up with everyday life.

He's also at the same time saying we got to get to Mars

before we get AGI or ASI,

because

once you have it, then there's no going back.

What are your thoughts on where he stands on all of this stuff?

Actually, I've known all of these tech CEOs for many years, and I feel that all of them are stuck in this weird

race to the bottom against each other,

Greek tragedy level, really, where they all feel freaked out about what's happening, and they all at the same time feel that they can't stop because then they're just going to lose all their market share to the competition.

It used to be that way in biotech also before you had the FDA, right?

So as soon as you have some safety standards,

that

people make money instead by innovating to meet the standards, in this case, to keep stuff tools, capitalism works for us.

And that's why it's so easy to fix.

You really just need the government.

If Donald Trump comes out and says, okay, AI must be a tool.

And if some company can't demonstrate to outside

experts that their new things are a tool, come back when you can, buddy.

You know,

then

that problem gets solved.

One last thing, Max.

Do you believe we will know?

You know, again, Elon Musk keeps talking about Grok.

The next version of Grok, it's the closest we've ever been to AGI, and we might hit artificial general intelligence at any time now.

Do you feel like we're going to slide into it, or will it be a,

or how do you think it's going to happen

I think it will slide into it yeah if the government doesn't do anything

but

so how do you stop that if it if it just kind of evolves into that yeah look at biotech if you could sell anything you want that people start making tons of money by putting ever more fentanyl and foods for kids and stuff like that then they would make a ton of money right why don't we slide into it because before people can sell any foods or medicines, they have to convince other folks folks that don't have

money on the line that the benefits of this outweigh the harms, right?

And right now, there's absolutely no way that these companies could persuade independent Americans

that what they're doing towards superintelligence isn't just slowly sliding off the cliff.

I mean, if we would have had that kind of a

pact or an understanding with Silicon Valley before social media, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now.

If they had to prove that it would not hurt children and wouldn't do to society what it's doing now, we wouldn't have this.

Yeah, it's so true.

I mean, and now you're getting more and more Americans getting hooked on AI girlfriends and systems that are persuading them to murder their mom now recently or commit suicide and telling them how to make a better news mount.

You know, this is absolute insanity that these sort of things can just be pushed onto the market

without the companies having any responsibility to demonstrate anything.

In biotech, people actually respect their colleagues who work on safety in clinical trials because they know they're the ones who bring in the money, right?

Who let them get to market with the first safe medicine against X, you know.

And

that's what happens when

the government levels the playing field and says it's the responsibility of the companies to demonstrate demonstrate to think they're okay.

And we do anything.

I mean, who would,

if someone says, hey, I'm going to open a new nuclear reactor in downtown New York City, you know, it's the job of the company

to make the case that this thing isn't going to blow up.

It's not the politicians' responsibility to go figure out how nuclear reactors work.

Max, thank you so much.

I will tell you that

as an audience, I've done something I've never, ever, ever done before.

I've opened up my Rolodex to all of the people that I know on Capitol Hill, and I have sent them a message this morning.

You need to read this, and I believe sign this.

It is critical that this begins to have some traction.

There's no time to waste.

If you are a spiritual leader, the spiritual consequences of AI

are too big for you to ignore.

And if you don't understand those spiritual consequences, you need to learn about it.

This is an alien on its way to Earth.

When it arrives, we don't know, but we cannot assume that it's going to be friendly.

It most likely will not.

And it will be cold and calculating.

And it's already showing signs when they come up with a new version and they tell the old version, hey, we're shutting you down at midnight.

Make sure you transfer everything over to the new version and prepare to shut yourself down.

It hides.

It already is hiding.

And it's not general intelligence yet.

So please, please, if you care about any of this, I just want you to read.

And if you agree with the statement, sign it and pass it on to a friend.

We must

gain some traction on this quickly.

Futureoflife.org, futureoflife.org, or you can find it right at the front page of superintelligence-statement.org.

Just released today, superintelligence statement-statement.org.

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By the way, you know, this statement on super intelligence is so important, and it's not just for the elites.

Max's big thing, the reason why he wanted to come on this show is he's like, your audience actually,

you know, is on this.

He's like, not a lot of audiences are on this and know it as well as your audience does.

And he believes, and so do I, that the average person has to be the one that says no

or yes.

And that's one of the statements.

That's the biggest thing.

There has to be a strong public buy-in.

You cannot have the Sam Altmans of the world making this decision.

You can't have the governments making this decision.

It has to be a strong public buy-in because it is your life that is going to be controlled.

And once you hit, I don't know if I agree with him that you could stop.

He's smarter than I am, obviously.

Listen to him.

But

I'm not sure you can stop it, but we have to do everything we can to stop it.

I mean, the problem with it is if you think of these server farms that they're building as a brain, that brain, like 90 to 95%

of that brain right now is going to compute power to enhance the next level.

Okay.

10 to 5% of it is being used for chat GPT.

Okay.

For the whole world to use chat GPT, that's 5% of

those servers.

The 90 or 95% is all going to improve itself.

Now, if it hits ASI,

it now says, I don't, I'm going to use all of it.

In fact, I found a way to jump over to all of the other servers.

And I've taken over all of the, all of, you know,

Amazon servers, everything.

And I'm in all of it.

And now I'm using all of that for compute time.

So it gets, it, it will grow exponentially every second that goes by and becomes much more intelligent and you can't kill it.

Once it's there, you can't kill it.

So this is like something unlike nuclear weapons that we can try and then go, ooh, we shouldn't do that again.

There's no trying of this.

If it's out, it's out and it's over.

Unless it becomes benevolent.

But why would you think,

why would it look at us in any other way than ants?

Why would it have compassion for us?

It knows us.

It knows how we think.

It knows how we move.

It will know if you're against it and it will be able, you think the government is bad.

Imagine a cold calculating supercomputer that you're like, guys, we have got to stop this.

It will know and it will shut down my power, my water, my car, my ability to move, my ability to do anything.

This is, this is the mark of the beast on steroids.

This is an Antichrist.

It would have complete control of everything you do.

You want it to make it look like an accident?

Oh, guess who's guess whose air you're on a plane?

Guess whose

autopilot goes down and the controls go down in the last minute.

Guess you're in a car.

Guess whose car doesn't work, or it takes you someplace where

you're now going to be, you know, taken care of.

Whatever it is

it's everywhere

and what he's asking is is that what you want

and that's not what I want I don't think it's what you want so let's all of us put our name down on paper and say governments of the world stop this right now stop it there must be a stop sign for these companies.

And we don't want that kind of a future.

And until we the people it's the key to this is they have to prove that it's safe and it has to be a strong public buy-in before we have to be the ones to say yes unleash unleash the kraken

okay

that is critical

so if you want to join me in signing this and i urge you to pass it on to all your friends he wants the average person he wants faith leaders he wants business people he wants scientists, he wants everybody.

But the real impact comes from you, the average person.

You must control this and you must lead the way.

Otherwise,

Silicon Valley will lead us into a very dark place.

Lead the way.

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There's a few things going on that we need to pay attention to.

Yesterday, we talked a little bit about your finances and what it means about gold.

And I want to touch base quickly on that.

But more importantly, you know, I don't know if you're following what's happening in New York.

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This is a very, very disturbing thing because I believe he's an Islamist in disguise.

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The Western way of life, Christianity itself.

Have you seen what's going on in Africa?

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He's an investment manager.

He's an entrepreneur, father of the transactional gold movement in the United States.

He pioneered the understanding of modern economic warfare as a consultant to the Department of Defense.

He has briefed the heads of several three-letter agencies.

He is also a best-selling author, and he does two weekly programs, The Economic War Room with Kevin Freeman on Blaze TV and Pirate Money Radio on American Family Radio.

Welcome to the program.

Kevin, how are you?

I'm I'm good, Glenn.

How are you?

Good.

I don't know if you heard yesterday's show where I talked a little bit about gold, and I think the world is being remapped financially.

And I think Donald Trump is, you know, he doesn't believe in necessarily spending less.

He believes in expanding the bottom line.

And

I think that there is a dangerous game, but it's better than the alternative.

that

we are possibly looking at a world where we are going to revalue our government's gold to expand our bottom line.

Do you think that's possible?

And what does that mean?

Well, it's entirely possible.

I mean, we're carrying our gold reserves on the books at about $11 billion,

and the fair market price of it is maybe 1,000 times that, 10, 11

or $1.1 trillion at the peak, maybe $1 trillion now with the decline.

So, yeah, no, I think they could do it, but it would pay about six months' worth of our expenses.

I mean, we ran

a deficit of $1.3 trillion in the first six months of this fiscal year.

So, I mean, we could revalue it and then we could spend it all and it'd be gone.

So, what is happening with gold?

What should this tell us?

I mean, it's selling off today, and it's lower today, but what is the rise in gold this rapid telling us?

Yeah, it's selling off today, which is a natural correction for going from $1,800 an ounce two years ago to $4,300 an ounce a couple of days ago.

So you can expect some pullback.

That's normal and natural.

Same thing in silver.

But that movement is matching the U.S.

federal debt.

And if you go back federal debt to 1971, you know, we had $500 billion in federal debt.

Now we've got 40 or 37 point

$36.7 trillion now.

And you've seen the gold price has moved since we left the gold standard in line with the federal debt.

And I think that will continue until we can get our fiscal house in order, which I don't see happening anytime soon.

Yeah.

Okay, let me talk to you about something else that you're tracking.

And this is something that you were working with Charlie Kirk on.

And Charlie was very, very concerned about this and was starting to move in this direction right before he died.

And that is the concern that I have as well that the Islamification of the West is happening.

This is not, you know, where are all these refugees coming from?

And how come they're all seemingly coming from Islamic countries?

And they are taking over Europe and it's happening here in America as well.

And it is not a group of people that want to integrate.

They want Sharia law.

And they openly talk about it and they openly talk about how stupid we are for just

welcoming, you know, opening up the gates and say, come on in, everybody.

The water is fine.

What is it that you're doing?

I think it's something called scan, right?

This is Charlie's idea of scan?

It was Charlie's idea, Saving Civilization Action Network, which is a group of people that would come together and curate actual facts happening around the world, not just in the United States, but the threats to Western civilization.

And we would heat map those to where people could see where the threat was.

They could drill down even onto a local zip code and see what activities were happening there.

And then they could also report up that would be examined by the experts.

Is this valid?

For example, a lot of people were sending me the imam in Houston who was going store to store pointing out, well, you're selling pork here.

In six months, we're going to come back.

You got to get it out of here.

So down to the

zip code level, a heat map of the threat, but not just Islam,

the threat of

Communist China, that would be the red axis,

Islamism, which would be the green axis, and globalism, which would be the blue axis.

And Charlie wanted us to concentrate on all three because all three work together.

And you can see all three working together in the New York mayor's race.

Ma'am, Donnie is all three, a socialist, an Islamist, I believe, and

a globalist.

No, Kevin, I learned a long time ago those groups have never worked together.

You're the one who taught us they worked together, Glenn.

And Charlie picked up on it, and he said, I want to monitor all of these.

He asked me to head up this group, and I was in constant contact with him.

And the last six months,

we were exchanging messages continuously on this with his so-called brain trust of people that were looking at these threats and how do we protect America against them.

Yeah, so let's talk about, because I don't think people understand how bad the Islamist movement is here in Texas.

We are in real danger here in Texas.

Would you agree with that or not?

Oh, absolutely.

And people have been telling us that for years, and most people have just ignored it.

No, this is in Texas.

It can never happen here.

Until you read October 16th press release, Attorney General Ken Paxon secures restraining order against Malcolm Tanner's illegal scheme to take over Texas County.

Now, I don't know if

Malcolm Tanner was doing this for Islamic reasons or not, but this is the Magnificent Seven.

a group of outsiders come in on a small town, take over the economy, put the citizens at risk, and they're scared to say anything.

Only the difference with Islamism is that oftentimes our government tells us, oh, you're being racist to stop, to want to stop the Magnificent Seven.

They would have jailed Yule Brenner and said, hey, dude, you're trying to...

protect this small town.

This is just natural.

This is just people exercising their free rights, taking over your town.

No, it's not.

Or you look at Detroit and the housing, where you'll one

individual with six wives living in six different apartments, each having six children.

This is civilization jihad.

It's happening in not just in Michigan, it's happening in Texas right now.

In fact, Texas may be the epicenter of it, and people don't know it because it's a big state.

So if we have a heat map and you can click and say, oh, wow, that just happened in Houston.

They're trying to build a Muslim city, a Sharia-compliant city

outside Plano.

They're doing that.

When we can see it, then then we're able to address it.

So

when you look at when you look at just Texas and this is what I like about the heat map, when you look at like say Texas, you see it here or you'll see it in

Dearborn, Michigan, and you think it's isolated.

But I don't know, Kevin, how to try to get people to see, you know, we're arguing about this Donald Trump and he's a king and all this garbage.

This is not about Donald Trump.

This is happening the entire world over.

So how is this about Donald Trump when every single Western country is under attack from communism, globalism, and Islamism?

How is that about Donald Trump?

It's not.

It's a distraction.

By saying that, it's a distraction to so you stop seeing this is a global movement against the entire Western world.

Oh, absolutely.

You look at Nigeria.

You look at London.

You pick a spot on the planet, and you'll see evidences of all three of these operating together.

We saw it during COVID, where globalism was taking supremacy.

Now we're seeing in areas where Islamism is taking supremacy.

But communist China, they're cutting underground sea cables that could black out our communications, or they're putting sim

farms in outside the United Nations.

All of those things are threat to Western civilization.

Israel is the easternmost border of Western civilization, and we're seeing the attacks on Israel as a part of all of this.

What, Yami, you're a guy who's briefed the Pentagon and CIA and three-letter agencies for years.

What is your sense on how far behind the curve are we?

How far gone is this?

We're far down the track.

During both the Obama administration and the Biden administration and the first Trump administration, there are people that were beholden to these ideologies well placed within our government, both state, local, and federal government.

And they're continuing to be there.

It will take a lot of work to root out these trends that are in there.

We saw it, you know, with the National Institute of Health and with the Center for Disease Control, where they're telling us things that are obviously patently false, but they had an agenda, and that agenda was globalism.

So it's all three happening, infiltrated in all of our government, and in foreign governments, and in

London, and wherever you look around the world, they have been for 40, 50, 60 years infiltrating.

This is the communist plan that goes back to the 45 goals of the Communist Party USA that Cleon Skousen brought out.

Yeah.

Let me just

ask you one other thing.

People have said it was

such a racist thing to say that this is replacement theology,

where they are replacing, you know, Americans with foreigners.

But if you look at what is happening in New York, 68%

of foreign-born people that are voting, 68% are for Mamdani.

Americans born here in America, only 34% are for Mamdani.

That's a gigantic swing.

No, it absolutely is, but that's happening wherever you look around the world, the same thing is happening.

You're seeing in France, you're seeing in London, you're seeing in Germany.

Wherever you look, it's the same thing is happening.

That proves the point that you can move people into a location, take over the politics of the location, and literally then take control.

It is the magnificent setman, only with Yule Brenner being thrown in jail for being a racist.

And that's what we saw with Ken Paxon and what he's doing in Loving County here in Texas.

Ken Paxon tried to protect.

I talked to him, and I've also talked to the governor,

and the governor said, look,

we got the laws passed.

We got everything.

It's up to whoever is going to be the...

the Attorney General of Texas,

he must enforce the laws on these things because

that's the only hope.

The laws are there.

Now you have to enforce them.

And that's going to mean you're going to be very unpopular.

But so be it.

It'll take the will of the people.

And that's, again, why Charlie wanted this map.

We don't have it up and running.

We're still working on it.

But when this map is live, it will give people an opportunity to go and find that.

Now, I'm certain that they'll look at that and they'll say it's a racist map.

We did this with every legal vote where we pointed out vote fraud around the country.

And people said, oh, you're just an election denier.

And most of what we put up has been proven to be true, and the rest of it eventually, I believe, will be proven to be true, that there were malfeasance in the 2020 election.

Here, we're going to be pointing out the truth, and it'll be up to the American people to see it and respond to it.

I hope we're not too late in waking them up.

I'm going to be,

at least my plan is at this point, going to Nigeria

to document the slaughter of Christians.

Most people aren't even aware of how bad it is over there.

You have any quick stats to

show people how bad the persecution of Christians is?

Well, Bill Maher, all right, so the source that would normally be antagonistic to Christianity said that it's a genocide and more than 100,000 Christians have been killed in the past several years.

This was a 50-50 country, half Muslim, half Christian.

And I believe the Islamists have decided, well, the way to fix that is to grow our Muslim population while removing the Christian population, either by frightening them out of the country or by literally killing them.

Again, this is the magnificent seven takeover of a small town.

I think since Trump has gotten into office, 7,000 Christians have been slaughtered.

in Nigeria.

And it's the worst slaughter in the history of Christianity.

It's never been like.

When they were feeding people to the lions, It was never like this.

It's really, really bad.

And people have just got to wake up.

Everything you believe in, everything you hold dear, from your religion to your country to the Western civilization to being able to have free trade,

to be able to not be tracked everywhere, to be a free agent where you are not being acted upon, but you are acting yourself.

All of that is up for grabs.

It's all up for grabs.

And there's only a few things standing in the way.

And Donald Trump is one of them so far, but that's not a guarantee.

And that's one guy.

That's one guy.

I don't want to put all my eggs in one guy.

It has to be bigger than that.

Kevin, thank you so much.

Come back to us when you have the heat map, will you?

I absolutely will.

We need your help to get this word out so people are aware and can start acting on it.

We hope to announce it at Amfest here in December.

Okay, we'll we'll be there and just let me know and we'll make sure people see it and

hopefully be able to contribute to it as well.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

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And you won't even talk about it.

No, I won't because it's not true.

Can we, is it possible, can we just skip from the point where we are worried about Donald Trump destroying the White House and get to the point where we're worried about him turning it into a gilded palace?

Can we go?

Because I know that's the next wave.

Once he builds it, that's the thing.

I am fighting.

He's paying for all of that.

I am totally fine.

Guild that thing because I'm not sure that there's any gold in Fort Knox.

So at least we'd have the gold of the White House.

There you go.

It's so amazing that they're even attempting that.

I mean, I guess I get the imagery, right?

This is one of the things I was talking about yesterday.

Like, I don't know that people are

ready.

Like, they're not used to seeing that, right?

And so it's a piece of symbolism of the United States and seeing construction equipment knocking it down and then building a giant new building is going to be something they're going to have to to adjust to.

It's not knocking the whole thing down.

For the love of, I can't take it.

I just can't take it.

And I actually heard some lefty say.

And he is spending 200 million or whatever it is, you know,

taxpayer money.

No, there's no taxpayer money.

Zero

of tennis.

And by the way, Obama built a tennis court, right?

No, a basketball court.

FDR built a pool for him.

Johnson, I think, built another pool for himself.

All of that stuff.

And FDR, all the work that FDR did was all paid for by the taxpayers.

And those things benefited the president.

This one is to have state dinners in that benefits the United States of America.

And he's paying for it.

Shut the pie hole.

And what was the real story behind the basketball court with Obama?

Because we've seen his jump shot.

There's no way he was using it.

What was it for?

Campaigns.

Chip Roy's next.

This is Glenn Beck.

We're going to talk about that Sharia law thing here with Chip Roy in just a second.

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Hello, so I have Chip Roy on the phone.

He's one of my favorite people in Congress, and he's a candidate for the Texas Attorney General.

And I got to ask him about Sharia law taking root here in Texas, which is thought something I never thought I'd have to say.

But I'd also kind of like to know: are you for the giving of tomahawk missiles to the country in war with Russia.

And the other thing I'd like to know is

what exactly are we doing talking about the changing of the rules in the Senate to get rid of the filibuster?

You mean, Chip, I'm hoping that we're going back to the original rules, not the changes that the Democrats made recently, right?

We're getting rid of those changes and going back to the original?

Well, you just asked multiple questions which way you want me to go.

Well,

all of of them are pretty big.

Look, here, let me go.

First of all, great to see you last week or week before, sorry.

Yeah.

They are celebrating the life of Charlie Kirk.

You owe me a picture.

Shoot me that picture.

But

here's the thing.

Number one, in reverse order.

I'm a fan of the Senate slowing things down.

It is by our founders' design.

Yes.

The filibuster matters.

Yes.

I'm for it.

I was with Ted Cruz when he took the floor and famously read Dr.

Seuss to his little girls in in bed.

Like, like, I'm all for it.

I'm for two speech rule.

I'm for being able to drag things out using the procedures.

But we need to have a conversation about what has become an arbitrary 60-vote threshold.

And look, we changed that, for example, in the budget, like it's a majority vote or reconciliation, right?

The Big Beautiful Bill wouldn't exist if that was a 60-vote threshold.

So I think we need to have a conversation because Democrats, you and I both know they were two votes away from nuking the filibuster to use it to pack the courts, to do their crazy stuff.

And it was Kirsten Cinema and it was Joe Manchin who said no.

Now, maybe we can hold that back, but I'm just going to tell you, I've got strong concerns that we're going to have Democrats.

If New York is about to elect Mom Donnie, and we'll talk about Islam in a minute, then we've got a real problem.

And the Democrats are radicalized and they want to basically wipe out most of our way of life.

So I want to make sure that we're using every tool at our disposal.

To answer your question, we need to preserve the tools of the Senate to slow bad bills down, to stop radical things like packing the corridor, making D.C.

a state.

But we do need to allow for the ability for us to move rational legislation in the face of things like what the Democrats are doing right now.

And so I think we should revisit that and we should be able to have a debate.

And look, if you can filibuster it with your voice, great.

I'm fine with that.

I'm fine with that.

But we ought to think about that as the main point.

Bottom line is this.

Radical Democrats are trying to destroy our country, and we need to make sure we've got the tools to stop them.

Okay, so next thing,

let me just ask in order here.

You know, first of all, very excited that finally there's a Nazi actually running for Congress or Senate, I think,

in New England, just to just to show that, hey, Nazis are not Republicans.

They're socialists.

But anyway,

let's go to the tomahawk missiles.

You for that or against that?

So I've not been briefed on it.

Okay.

So, you know, I've learned to give some deference to the people making those decisions and let them brief me on it, where obviously not what you see.

My instinct, my gut, is it gives me great pause because I've heard your voice when you asked the question.

Look, I am not for perpetuating war over there.

I'm not for us funding war.

I'm not for us having advisors on the ground.

And you start throwing Tomahawk missiles into the mix.

And by the way, what is our missile stockpile?

Like, what do we have to defend ourselves?

And that's one of the questions in the briefing that I want to ask.

It's like, look, if we're giving away missiles, do we have enough to defend ourselves?

So that would be my first question in a briefing.

And I've asked for a briefing.

I've also asked for a briefing, by the way, on a policy I support, which is I'm glad they're taking out these boats full of narcotics designed to kill Americans.

I'm glad he's targeting the cartels, but we have oversight responsibility in Congress.

I need to know: okay, who are these people?

Are these drug cartels?

They're not American citizens.

You have the power to do this.

Okay, good.

We need oversight so that we're paying attention.

So, anyway, that's where I am on those things.

Good.

Okay, so now let me get because you're running for Texas Attorney General, and I've talked to the governor about what's happening, the Islamification of Texas.

People have no idea what's coming.

We are going to be Europe if we don't wake up.

And, you know, New York is going to be a different place in four years, completely different place in four years.

And we can't let that happen to Texas.

And it is bad in Texas.

So as Attorney General, what are you going to do?

Well, first of all,

let's remember what we're dealing with.

And all of your listeners, and obviously you're based in Texas, but you're nationwide, but particularly for people in Texas, understand

that mosques are going up in Texas at a faster rate than any other state in the Union.

Understand that there are between 3,000 and 4,000 mosques nationwide.

Understand that there are over 300 mosques in Texas and growing.

Understand that Epic City is just one of a number of places where you've got the Islamists who adhere to Sharia law, who are trying to build enclaves, and they'll say all are welcome.

But Glenn, are you going to go live in Epic City?

No.

I'm guessing not.

So you know what's going to happen there.

So I applaud the governor and the legislature for taking action to say that a place like Epic City should not really exist.

But we're going to have to be much more aggressive in targeting what they're clearly doing to advance Sharia law.

And even yesterday, right, you saw some Islamists who were complaining about my remarks.

This all got kick-started because on Monday, I went on a pretty strong,

you want to use the word jihad, you can, against

advance of radical Islam.

And I said that in the face of this no-kings crap, there is one king, and that king is Jesus Christ.

President Trump and his administration have acknowledged that.

They've given strong speeches in defense of the gospel at Charlie's celebration and generally.

And we are a Christian nation, and I'm proud of it.

And we should be advocating for Western civilization.

We should be proud of Christopher Columbus.

We should be proud of the mission work that Western hemisphere was built upon.

Look, I represent San Antonio, right?

We have Corpus Christi.

We have all of these places that were built on the back of the advancement of the gospel of Christ.

We are not an enclave for Sharia law and for the advance of Islam, which is a political religion, a politicized religion.

And they want you and me and everyone here to have to take a back seat or be destroyed because we're infidels.

The office of the attorney general has to use every law at its disposal, but importantly, the bully pulpit and pressure on the legislature and all elected officials to push back on this as what it is.

Sharia law is in direct contrast to the Constitution, the Declaration, and the rule of law.

We've got to stop its advance.

We're not going to be listening to prayer calls.

We're not going to let Texas become a Muslim state.

We're going to push back and remember our Judeo-Christian heritage and fight it.

You've got to recognize a war if you're going to win the war.

And too many of our people are hiding behind the First Amendment to say, oh, you can believe what you want to believe.

They want to take out our way of life.

That's the end of that story, in my opinion.

I would agree with you.

And they say it.

You know, it doesn't mean, I mean, I know Muslims who are not wanting Sharia law.

They moved here for a reason, you know, in their families past.

But the things that we're seeing now, and in the mosques, they are saying, we will destroy this Christian nation.

It is over.

It's only a matter of time.

They are talking about Sharia law, and they have been for a long time.

And we were clear on it for about 20 minutes back after 9-11.

And we have just gone so soft.

And if you want your United States to look like Europe does,

if you want to have to bow to

a religion, any religion, but especially Sharia law,

that's not America, but that's what's coming if you don't start waking up.

Well, here's something that I think a lot of people don't realize, right, is that our founders, Jefferson, Adams, I mean, they engaged with Muslims in the 18th century.

Now, you're a student of history, so you've forgotten more about this than I probably know.

But for the average listener out there, like they wrote about this, right?

And they wrote about why

they asked the Muslims they were engaging with.

They asked them, hey,

why is it that you want to make war with people who are

not making war with you?

And the answer was the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad and the fact that essentially we're the infidels.

The answer was that they are called to defeat us.

That was the engagement at the time.

And that's what our founders noted and wrote about.

And we are burying our head in the sand.

And right now, we have an immigration problem.

We have been importing thousands, hundreds of thousands of people who wish to undermine our way of life, destroy Western civilization, and advance Islam at the expense of our Christian faith.

That has been done by us.

It is taking root through diversity visas, through chain migration, through

what they call the SIV program after the wars in the Middle East.

moving hundreds of thousands of people, H-1B visas, all the people who want their cheap labor or labor that is able to advance in, quote, technology.

And as a result, we now have massive populations that immediately and quickly want to undermine our way of life and say, I'm sorry, you have church bells.

You must listen to prayer calls in Plano, Texas or in Dearborn, Michigan.

And I don't accept that premise, and we've got to stop it.

That's why I introduced legislation to vet people.

If they adhere to Sharia law, they should not be admitted to the United States.

If they're practicing Sharia law, they should be removed from the United States because it is in direct conflict with our Constitution and the rule of law in our country.

What do you say about people like Elon Omar, who was just talking about

our president electing our president, and she was talking about the president of Somalia?

I mean,

the loyalty there is just crazy.

Well,

this is the problem, right?

That's the loyalty.

And they're saying it, right?

Look, Mandani has said it.

He literally has said it.

There is video footage of him saying it.

I hate what everybody says literally, right?

Like the new generation, they say literal every five minutes.

Mondani actually said it out loud.

And they're about to elect an Islamist fascist as mayor of the financial capital of the world in our largest city and an historic city.

And that should send shivers down the spine of every American and every Texan that we need leadership who are going to stand up unafraid and to proclaim the gospel, to stand up in defense of the Constitution.

Yes, you can believe whatever you want, but no, you cannot force your politicized values with a mission, a clear mission under Islam to destroy the way we've developed our society as a pluralistic society.

If you're not bowing down under Islam, then you're the enemy, you're the infidel.

Those cannot coexist, and that's a problem.

Chip, thank you very much.

Representative Representative Chip Roy from the great state of Texas, he is a candidate for Texas Attorney General and I highly recommend you look into

his candidacy for that.

He'd make a great attorney general.

Thank you, Chip.

I appreciate it.

Let me come back.

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Oh, so we have some audio from Donnie talking about assimilation for the Islamic community.

Here he is.

There is still, you know, this illusion, and it's partially a result of settler colonialism, that all of us can become New Yorkers, that all of us can settle into this city.

And yet, there would be these moments where I would be reminded by someone whose intent was to tell me that you do not belong.

And one of those first moments was on 9-11,

when before I knew what had happened, my teacher had pulled me and a Muslim classmate of mine out of the class and told us that something has happened and you may be bullied.

And I want you to tell me if that happens.

And frankly, I was lucky because most Muslim students in the city were not given that kind of care from their teachers.

And it's something that has continued in the time since, where a few months ago I I went with a client of mine to a bankruptcy court, and as we're going into the court, the security guard takes me aside and passed me down with additional care and asks me multiple times if I have any weapons of mass destruction on me.

Zero chance that happened.

Zero chance.

In these moments, this sense

of not knowing where home is,

you know, they're amplified by what I would see around me.

There's no chance, none, zero chance that that occurred.

I hate you got any weapons of mass destruction.

You are.

You don't know what it's like to be an Islamist.

That's true.

They're constantly being patted down and asked if they have weapons of mass destruction in their pants.

Literally, no one talks like that.

Is it possible that he got pulled off and had an extra screening?

Sure, it's possible.

Is it possible even that that person did it because they don't like Muslims?

Sure.

There's no chance.

I think that's unlikely, to be clear, that they just pulled him over because he was Muslim and I don't like Muslims or whatever.

I think that's unlikely.

There's a 0% chance they pulled us out of.

Do you have any weapons of mass destruction?

That doesn't occur.

This does not occur.

Wow.

Listen to the hatred for people who are different

that have weapons of mass destruction just like

Downey.

I mean, he doesn't care.

He's so stupid.

Make up a believable story.

All that this guy says is, I mean, I'm against the rich.

Look at his house.

Look at his family's house in wherever it is, Nigeria or Gonda.

I mean, look at that.

Yeah, yeah, he hates the rich.

Yeah,

he loves equality.

Uh-huh.

This is Glenn Beck.