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Speaker 2 you're going to search for that. And when you hear that part, you're going to go, that's my favorite.

Speaker 2 That's what Stu is talking about. And I'd have to agree with him.

Speaker 2 It could be proof that finally has come out now that Biden's FEMA refused to help victims in the hurricane flooding last year based on bumper stickers. This one, I mean, my head exploded.

Speaker 2 The No Kings protest spent almost $300 million, over a quarter of a billion dollars

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Speaker 2 Tonight, on my Wednesday night special, I'm going to be talking and showing you the details and mapping it all out where this money for no kings, where that movement came from.

Speaker 2 We now have a better estimate

Speaker 2 we now we now know that at least two hundred and ninety four million dollars

Speaker 2 two hundred

Speaker 2 over a quarter of a billion dollars to do that no kings thing okay and for what what do we

Speaker 2 have no idea do we have a does anyone feel an impact of it it really feels like nothing oh it was it was but that that this was a giant 300 million dollar ad campaign here are the big big donors arabella advisors did i did a whole show on arabella advisors on how bad they are 80 million dollars george soros 72 million dollars the tides foundation 45 million dollars ford foundation 51 rockefeller 28 rockefeller ford

Speaker 2 soros

Speaker 2 Oligarchs. I mean,

Speaker 2 you are so stupid. I feel bad for you.
I really do. I really do.
Because you're enslaving yourself to oligarchs and you have no effing idea what you're doing.

Speaker 2 I mean, you don't, I mean, you're just so, you're that stupid.

Speaker 5 This is where we are now. This is

Speaker 5 what this is. We've risen to this level.
I'm sorry. Or fall into it.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry. But I just, I can't.
I mean, I just can't.

Speaker 5 Now I can understand the frustration. And, you know,

Speaker 5 we were told this was 7 million people

Speaker 5 over 2,500 different events, which is a pretty big footprint. And I feel nothing.

Speaker 5 Like, I, again, I don't live in an area, maybe the central part of this, though, I do remember in our area around here that there were George Floyd rallies.

Speaker 5 Like, that felt like, again, had an impact, a lot of an impact on buildings falling to the ground because they were on fire. But yeah,

Speaker 5 there was an impact of that. You felt that.
The No Kings thing feels like nothing. It's a joke.

Speaker 2 It seems like a costume party.

Speaker 5 Part of it, I think, is the fact that and I don't feel like a lot of people have talked about this but this was basically only occurring in a couple of really left-wing states Have you seen the map of the concentration of where these events and where the showing was?

Speaker 5 Look at this three states

Speaker 5 I mean three states. It's California Illinois and New York That is it now.

Speaker 5 There's a little bit in Minnesota a little bit in Washington outside of that There's almost nothing across the country that they this is a map shaded in different color shades of blue.

Speaker 5 The dark blue occurs only in New York, Illinois, and California.

Speaker 2 I'm proud to say that the closer to white it gets, the fewer things. I am proud to say my one of the place where I have a ranch, Idaho,

Speaker 2 completely white. The white

Speaker 2 Union Glen, of course, that's where you are.

Speaker 5 Of course, that's where Glenbeck goes.

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Speaker 5 But I mean, that's incredible, right? Like, almost all of these rallies happened in three far-left-wing states where we rarely ever see a single-digit race, right, statewide for Democrats.

Speaker 5 They're always winning by double digits.

Speaker 2 That tells the story, right?

Speaker 5 Like, this is a lot of people from states that were already blue going and having a little party together during the day.

Speaker 2 You have the video of Pat played it this morning. Yeah, here it is.
Play this video.

Speaker 2 This is a nursing home, okay? Okay. This video is taken of a nursing home and everyone coming out of the nursing home to go get on a bus and go to one of the rallies.

Speaker 2 They're in wheelchairs and walkers, every single one of them, wheelchairs and walkers.

Speaker 2 And it's just sad and pathetic. I mean, look at this.
They're emptying out nursing homes.

Speaker 2 $294 million.

Speaker 2 Now, if you really cared about things, you really cared about things, do you know with $294,000, $94 million, you could take 20,000 homeless and you could put them in a house, give them rent for a year.

Speaker 2 A year.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 You know how many addiction recovery places you could build, open, and pay for? You know how many entire housing blocks you could build for $294 million?

Speaker 2 A quarter of a billion dollars, and they spent it bussing people from nursing homes?

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 It shows you they're, I mean, they don't, I mean, at least they're wasting their money.

Speaker 5 You have to factor in, though, that those people would have rent in apartments under a government run by a king.

Speaker 2 That's what you have not factored in. Yeah.
And that's why Rockefeller and Ford and Gates. and Soros are running to your rescue.

Speaker 5 Right, right. That's what I guess we're supposed to take from it.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 5 I keep being fascinated by the fact that, like, you know, we've been playing clips here. I played some on my show as well of these people

Speaker 5 who are being interviewed on camera,

Speaker 5 calmly,

Speaker 5 rationally outlaying their

Speaker 5 philosophy about how Donald Trump, Charlie Kirk, other conservatives should be murdered. Like calmly just laying it out.
This is how I feel. And it's not angry.

Speaker 5 You know, there's some people who are angry. They're getting in fights with people.

Speaker 5 But mostly calmly and rationally laying out their plans for these people to die, the excitement that they would have if they do die,

Speaker 5 the reasons why they should die.

Speaker 5 Over and over and over again. Now, I didn't see a lot of that coverage in the mainstream media.
I didn't see those people for some reason and they just couldn't locate them.

Speaker 5 Despite the fact that they had large signs advocating for these deaths, they couldn't locate them to talk to them, apparently, at any of these rallies.

Speaker 5 Only conservatives with their iPhones could find those people. But those people were all over these events.
And it was, you know, it's one thing.

Speaker 5 And you can maybe even have a little grace if you want to be really, really genteel about the world, understanding that sometimes people get fired up, they are angry, they're screaming at, like, you know, they get cornered by a conservative.

Speaker 5 They get, you know, they start.

Speaker 2 That's not what this was.

Speaker 5 That's not what a lot of this was. A lot of it was just like calm and rational thought.
Here's my political philosophy. People I don't agree with should die.

Speaker 5 And just outlining it in 30-second, minute-long clips over and over and over and over again. That is not a healthy

Speaker 2 society. I saw women say,

Speaker 2 I'd kill them. I'd absolutely kill them.
I had the opportunity. Yes, I would kill them.
World would be a better place.

Speaker 5 You know, one lady, what would your birthday present be? Oh, I hope to wake up and see the obituary that we're all hoping for.

Speaker 5 Are you saying that you want President Trump to die? Yes.

Speaker 5 That's what they say. That's not what I say.
That's what they say, to be clear. That is a fascinating thing.

Speaker 5 And I was talking about.

Speaker 2 We never said anything like that about Joe Biden. No, of course not.
I know, but I never. I didn't say that about anyone.
No, neither do I. But I mean,

Speaker 2 you could say, oh, it's political rhetoric. No, it's not political rhetoric.
It's not. No.
I've never engaged in that.

Speaker 5 You're hanging out with Megan Kelly in Fort Worth at a show at Dickey's Arena this weekend, megankelly.com, if you want to go. I will be there trying to figure out ways to sabotage you.

Speaker 5 Thank you. No problem.
But I was talking to her yesterday and she said something that I think is

Speaker 5 really

Speaker 5 true and kind of stunning to hear, which is like, she says, like, I didn't know this was out there. Like, I didn't know this was real.
And I feel the same way. Like, I talk to liberals.

Speaker 5 I talk to them, people on the left all the time in my normal life. And to be fair, they don't seem like that at all.
I don't know that I've ever met anyone like that.

Speaker 2 But apparently, they're all over the place.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I have.

Speaker 2 I know people like that. I know people like that.

Speaker 5 That want conservatives to just die.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that think the world would be a much better place if somebody would just kill them.

Speaker 5 That's terrifying. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 But I know them.

Speaker 2 I know them.

Speaker 5 I want

Speaker 5 conservative ideas to persuade liberals into becoming conservatives. I I want constitutional principles to become in vogue enough to become powerful and to run this country the way it should be run.

Speaker 5 I don't want any liberals to die in that process because some psychotic person calling themselves a conservative shoots them,

Speaker 5 lights their house on fire, kidnaps them, any of these things. And you know what's really stunning, I guess, in this world is that's really easy for me to say.
It's really easy for you to say that.

Speaker 5 It's not, there's not a moment where I'm like, oh, gosh, I don't know. How do I feel about this? It's easy because I'm a human being.

Speaker 2 Did you see the. So in other words, you would say if somebody's on their roof and the water's coming in

Speaker 2 and you had access to a helicopter, you would take that helicopter, fly, and save those people, no matter how they voted. No matter how they voted.
Oh, that's interesting. And that's it.

Speaker 5 See how this is an easy decision.

Speaker 2 See how this is related, though? It's very closely related.

Speaker 2 It is a culture of death. Play the audio here, Sarah.
You were just talking about. Go ahead.

Speaker 7 There's no other way I'd want to celebrate my birthday than with my favorite and my best friend fighting for our country.

Speaker 8 Okay, so for a birthday present, what do you hope happens? You know, you wake up tomorrow morning.

Speaker 7 I hope that I see the obituary that we're all waiting for tomorrow. That's what I hope for.

Speaker 8 You wishing that President Trump is dead?

Speaker 7 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 8 Absolutely.

Speaker 7 Absolutely.

Speaker 8 Okay. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 Wow, she just can't stop with that. Absolutely.
She wants to make sure you know. No, she's absolutely, absolutely sure.

Speaker 2 Here's the part.

Speaker 5 Listen to this one. This is the one I was talking.
One of the ones I was talking about. Listen to this.

Speaker 9 We need to get ourselves together.

Speaker 9 And we might even need to be a little bit meaner because the Republicans don't mind being mean. And by mean, what do you mean?

Speaker 6 Do you mean protesting? Do you mean...

Speaker 9 Maybe we have to, I don't know, stop being so nice.

Speaker 6 Because you seem like a pretty nice lady.

Speaker 9 I'm a pretty nice lady, but I can be pretty mean, too.

Speaker 6 Okay, and I have to ask this because people on the other side are going to say that they feel like the Democrat Party has been mean. Recently, with Charlie Kirk being assassinated, they...

Speaker 9 He's a piece of garbage. Of course we were mean.
I am so tired of people saying, oh, but, you know, it's a terrible thing. No, Hitler is dead.
I'm glad Hitler's dead. Evil people have no place in

Speaker 9 my world. He was a hateful human being.

Speaker 9 It was disgusting the things that he said and did.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 9 I have, you know, I don't have time for that. I'm sorry.
I have to point my energy in other directions.

Speaker 2 Wow. That's, that's phenomenal.
It's phenomenal. Let me, let me play something real.
This is a TED Talk. Okay.

Speaker 2 I want you to listen how the left is now, this is the former CEO of Wikimedia. Okay.

Speaker 2 She's doing a TED talk

Speaker 2 and she's talking about truth and the importance of truth. I want you to listen to this carefully.

Speaker 9 Go ahead, got 30 minutes.

Speaker 4 But one of the most significant differences, critical for moving from polarization to productivity, is that the Wikipedians who write these articles aren't actually focused on finding the truth.

Speaker 4 They're working for something that's a little bit more attainable, which is the best of what we can know right now.

Speaker 4 And after seven years there, I actually believe that they're onto something that for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the truth and seeking to convince others of the truth isn't necessarily the best place to start.

Speaker 4 In fact,

Speaker 4 I think our reverence for the truth might become might have become

Speaker 4 a bit of a distraction that is preventing us from finding consensus and getting important things done.

Speaker 4 Right?

Speaker 4 None of that's to say that the truth isn't important. The truth obviously exists.
It's at the core, or the search for the truth, is at the core of some of our greatest human achievements.

Speaker 4 It can animate and inspire us to do, learn, and create great things.

Speaker 4 But I think in our messy human hearts, we also know that the truth is something of a fickle mistress, and that the beauty of the truth is actually often in the struggle.

Speaker 4 It's the reason that we have so many sublime chronicles of the human experience, because there are so many different truths to be explored.

Speaker 4 And so in this spirit, I know that the truth exists for each of you in this room. It also probably exists for the person sitting next to you.

Speaker 4 But the thing is the two of you don't necessarily have the same truths.

Speaker 4 And this is because for many of us, truth is what we make when we merge facts about the world with our beliefs about the world. Each of us has our own truth and it's probably a good one.

Speaker 2 No, it's not. The truth is universal.
The truth doesn't line up to you.

Speaker 2 You have to line up to the truth. That's what honest questioning is about.
That's what an honest search is about. You don't have the truth.
Nobody has the truth.

Speaker 2 You have the truth to the best of your understanding. But if somebody comes to you and says, hey, by the way, that's wrong.
And here's why, A, B, and C.

Speaker 2 And you're saying that equals F, it actually equals D. And here's how, let me show you the work.

Speaker 2 It's now incumbent upon you, no matter how you feel, to say, oh, I see how you got there. You're right.
You're right. I was wrong.
You line to the truth.

Speaker 2 You don't have the truth line up to how you feel.

Speaker 5 And when people do that, there's lots of problems. We just had a Hitler mention a moment ago.
He believed he had the truth.

Speaker 2 Exactly right. And the woman who was in the street believed that

Speaker 2 Charlie Kirk was Hitler. And so, of course, Hitler must die.

Speaker 2 See how this works? I know you do.

Speaker 2 40, 50% of the country doesn't seem to get it. And I don't know how to unite with that.

Speaker 2 you can't unite if you will not search for the truth and and

Speaker 2 and open your heart to realize you don't get to choose who lives and dies

Speaker 2 you don't get to choose who's rescued and who's not by a bumper sticker

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Speaker 2 Professor Max Tegmark, the author of Life 3.0,

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 a great mind on AI and somebody who's as concerned about ASI or artificial superintelligence as I am. And Max, I know you want to

Speaker 2 say one more thing, and I think I know what it's regarding. And let me set you up, I think, with this.

Speaker 2 I talk to people all the time,

Speaker 2 and they fall sometimes into a category of, yes, artificial intelligence is bad. It's going to be really...
And I look at... look at it as a tool that as long as we always control it, it's okay.

Speaker 2 It's actually really, really good and helpful. Would you agree or disagree with that?

Speaker 10 Exactly. It's so profound that you're bringing up this thing about a tool.
Now

Speaker 10 a tool,

Speaker 10 to me, is something you can control. Your car is a tool, Glenn, because it's built with a steering wheel and a brake, so you can control it, right?

Speaker 10 Superintelligence, on the other hand, is not a tool because we can't control it. Now,

Speaker 10 you can think of the statement, in other words, it's not saying that we should ban AI. We should just ban non-tool AI, AI that isn't a tool.

Speaker 10 And you know, I had a friend who died of cancer just last month. It was very tragic.
And they told her that it was an incurable cancer. Of course, it's not incurable in principle.

Speaker 10 If we can use AI tools to figure out how to cure cancer, which I believe we can, and my work at MIT is very much focused on

Speaker 10 making AI controllable, right? Then we can do wonderful things with this. But But you don't need uncontrollable superintelligence to cure cancer.
We can do it with tool AI.

Speaker 10 You don't need crazy superintelligence to have self-driving cars or make your business more productive or do any of the things that people who listen to this may want AI to do.

Speaker 10 In fact, the best way to squander all the upside we can have

Speaker 10 in making Americans healthy and wealthy and prosperous with AI tools is if we don't have a law that says it's got to be a tool and instead we just throw the game and

Speaker 10 lose control over the whole thing.

Speaker 2 You know, I talked to you off the air last week or week before last, and I was so glad that you reached out to me because I was going to reach out to you and I have for several years trying to get you on the air.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 you reached out because of this

Speaker 2 statement and wanted to get some attention on it, and I'm thrilled to do that. But I said to you, I think we also have to look at life, the definition of life.

Speaker 2 And I've been working on a constitutional amendment, and I haven't

Speaker 2 revealed it yet because I still have some people looking at it, and I'd love for you to look at it.

Speaker 2 How important do you think it is that we not only define AI as a tool, but a tool that has zero human rights?

Speaker 10 I think it's very important.

Speaker 10 You don't give human rights to a hammer or to a car. And

Speaker 10 even though some people in Silicon Valley are very into this transhumanist idea that somehow humans should merge with machines and blah, blah, blah, we

Speaker 10 have freedom in how we build AI. And there's absolutely no morally good reason to go in that direction.
I would love to have a constitutional amendment

Speaker 10 to the effect, you know, I'm not a lawyer, but where the gist of it is that only humans have moral agency.

Speaker 10 And there should therefore never be any right to vote or any kind of human rights granted to machines.

Speaker 10 And we shouldn't try to build machines that you would even want to give any human rights to either.

Speaker 2 So how do you deal with somebody like Elon Musk, which I can't ever put my finger on him?

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 he's

Speaker 2 building the brain interface, and part of it is his own statement saying that we're going to have to accept transhumanism.

Speaker 2 We're going to have to merge with the machine or you will not be able to keep up with everyday life. He's also at the same time saying we got to get to Mars

Speaker 2 before we get AGI or ASI

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 2 once you have it, then there's no going back.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 what are your thoughts on where he stands on all of this stuff?

Speaker 10 Actually, I've known all of these tech CEOs for many years and I feel that all of them are stuck in this weird

Speaker 10 race to the bottom against each other,

Speaker 10 Greek tragedy level, really, where they all feel freaked out about what's happening, and they all at the same time feel that they can't stop because then they're just going to lose all their market share to the competition.

Speaker 10 It used to be that way in biotech also, before you had the FDA, right? So as soon as you have some safety standards

Speaker 10 that

Speaker 10 people make money instead by innovating to meet the standards, in this case, to keep stuff tools. Capitalism works for us.

Speaker 10 And that's why it's so easy to fix. You really just need government.

Speaker 10 If Donald Trump comes out and says, okay, AI must be a tool. And if some company can't demonstrate

Speaker 10 outside

Speaker 10 experts that their new thing is a tool,

Speaker 10 come back when you can, buddy,

Speaker 2 then

Speaker 10 that problem gets solved.

Speaker 2 One last thing, Max.

Speaker 2 Do you believe we will know? You know, again, Elon Musk keeps talking about Grok.

Speaker 2 The next version of Grok, it's the closest we've ever been to AGI, and we might hit artificial general intelligence at any time now. Do you feel like we're going to slide into it, or will it be a...

Speaker 2 Or how do you think it's going to happen?

Speaker 10 I think it will slide into it, yeah, if the government doesn't do anything.

Speaker 10 But

Speaker 2 so, how do you stop that if it just kind of evolves into that?

Speaker 10 Yeah, look at biotech.

Speaker 10 If you could sell anything you wanted, people start making tons of money by putting ever more fentanyl and foods for kids and stuff like that, then they would make a ton of money, right?

Speaker 10 Why don't we slide into it? Because before people can sell any foods or medicines, they have to convince other folks that don't have

Speaker 10 money on the line that the benefits of this outweigh the harms, right?

Speaker 10 And right now, there's absolutely no way that these companies could persuade independent American experts that what they're doing towards superintelligence isn't just slowly sliding off the cliff.

Speaker 2 I mean, if we would have had that kind of a

Speaker 2 pact or an understanding with Silicon Valley before social media, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now.

Speaker 2 If they had to prove that it would not hurt children and wouldn't do to society society what it's doing now, we wouldn't have this.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it's so true.

Speaker 10 I mean, and now you're getting more and more Americans getting hooked on AI girlfriends and systems that are persuading them to murder their mom now recently or commit suicide and telling them how to make a better news mount.

Speaker 10 You know, this is absolute insanity that these sort of things can just be pushed onto the market

Speaker 10 without the companies having any responsibility to demonstrate anything.

Speaker 10 In biotechs, people actually respect their colleagues who work on safety in clinical trials because they know they're the ones who bring in the money, right?

Speaker 10 Who let them get to market with the first safe medicine against X, you know? And

Speaker 10 that's what happens when

Speaker 10 the government levels the playing field and says

Speaker 10 it's the responsibility of the companies to demonstrate to things are okay. And we do it with anything.
I mean, who would,

Speaker 10 if someone says, hey, hey, I'm going to open a new nuclear reactor in downtown New York City, you know, it's the job of the company

Speaker 10 to make the case that this thing isn't going to blow up. It's not the politicians' responsibility to go figure out how nuclear reactors work.

Speaker 2 Max, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 I will tell you that

Speaker 2 as an audience, I've done something I've never, ever, ever done before.

Speaker 2 I've opened up my Rolodex to to all of the people that I know on Capitol Hill, and I have sent them a message this morning. You need to read this and I believe sign this.

Speaker 2 It is critical that this begins to have some traction. There's no time to waste.
If you are a spiritual leader, the spiritual consequences of AI are too big for you to ignore.

Speaker 2 And if you don't understand those spiritual consequences, you need to learn about it.

Speaker 2 This is an alien on its way to Earth. When it arrives, we don't know, but we cannot assume that it's going to be friendly.
It most likely will not. And it will be cold and calculating.

Speaker 2 And it's already showing signs. When they come up with a new version and they tell the old version, hey, we're shutting you down at midnight.

Speaker 2 Make sure you transfer everything over to to the new version and prepare to shut yourself down. It hides.

Speaker 2 It already is hiding.

Speaker 2 And it's not general intelligence yet.

Speaker 2 So please, please, if you care about any of this, I just want you to read. And if you agree with the statement, sign it and pass it on to a friend.
We must

Speaker 2 gain some traction on this quickly. Futureoflife.org, futureoflife.org, or you can find it right at the front page of superintelligence-statement.org.

Speaker 2 Just released today, superintelligence statement-statement.org. You're streaming the best of Glenn Beck.

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Speaker 2 Okay, so they say that Donald Trump has weaponized the government. Okay, that he turned the DOJ loose on his enemies, that he has he has targeted John Bolton and obsessed with James Comey.

Speaker 2 They've said it a million times over and over again

Speaker 2 without ever asking

Speaker 2 who actually held the trigger here.

Speaker 2 But for a moment, just for the case of this argument, let's just say all of that was true. Let's say Trump had used the power of the state to punish those two people who had crossed him.

Speaker 2 People like Bolton and

Speaker 2 Comey. Just say, for the sake of argument, that's all true.

Speaker 2 These are men who sat in the highest rooms of power. They have lawyers, they have money, they have microphones.

Speaker 2 If that were true, it would be ugly, it would be dangerous, and it would be limited.

Speaker 2 Because what we just learned from the Department of Homeland Security is something far, far worse. This time, the target is not a political rival.
It's not a Washington insider. It was

Speaker 2 you.

Speaker 2 There is new news that is coming out today, according to the DHS Privacy Office report, which was launched after a bunch of whistleblowers came forward, that now

Speaker 2 says that FEMA did not mishandle just a few cases. They kept notes.
They were making a list.

Speaker 2 They tracked

Speaker 2 Americans, their political and religious beliefs during disasters. Not in theory, in black and white.

Speaker 2 Let me give you some of the quotes. Angry political rant.
Sign in yard states, I'm a bitter gun owner clinging to my religion. Homeowner had a sign stating, this is Trump country.

Speaker 2 These are not comments about storm patterns. These are comments about people.

Speaker 2 And when these people were flooded, they were homeless, they were desperate, and asked for help from the same government that preaches compassion and equity, they got something entirely different.

Speaker 2 They got silence, delay, and sometimes nothing at all.

Speaker 2 The DHS report now confirms, quote, FEMA violated the Privacy Act of 1974 by collecting and storing data tied to protected speech. They were checking bumper stickers and writing you down in a book.

Speaker 2 They logged gun signage 72 times, Trump 15 times, firearms five times, Biden twice.

Speaker 2 The FEMA workers then, and we told you all this, but it was a conspiracy theory. Now it has been proven.

Speaker 2 FEMA workers skipped homes if you had a MAGA flag or a yard sign. And then they left notes.
There was a political fire. There was a political flyer, I'm quoting, so I didn't leave a FEMA brochure.

Speaker 2 Quote, we don't recommend anyone visit this location, end quote. That's not a clerical error here.
That's a blacklist.

Speaker 2 This is the same agency that airlifts people off of rooftops after hurricanes, that distributes food and shelter when nothing else works.

Speaker 2 And they were told to avoid Americans because who they voted for. Not terrorists, not criminals, citizens, you.

Speaker 2 I will tell you, I have been in disaster after disaster,

Speaker 2 much of it not of my own creating, but

Speaker 2 natural disaster all over the world.

Speaker 2 I have shown up at the hurricanes and the floods and the tornadoes with help. And not once did it even occur to me to ask you, what's your political affiliation?

Speaker 2 Not once did I even, did it even occur to any of us to say, where do you stand on the Second Amendment? Who did you vote for? What do you believe?

Speaker 2 Which church do you go to? Never. Do you believe in God? Never.

Speaker 2 That is absolutely 100% un-American. Un-American.

Speaker 2 I read this report. The floods in Florida and the tornadoes in Tennessee and the hurricanes in South Carolina, where people waited for days for aid that never came.

Speaker 2 And when it did come because of pressure from people like us, survivors, Americans who lost everything, received a $700 check.

Speaker 2 $700.

Speaker 2 Meanwhile, billions are being funneled to illegal immigrants, to foreign wars, to bureaucracies studying climate equity.

Speaker 2 And now we know why.

Speaker 2 Because they were busy making notes about bumper stickers.

Speaker 2 I read this this morning and I saw it firsthand, but I couldn't prove it. But I saw it firsthand and I reported on it at the time.

Speaker 2 But they could say it was an isolated incident and I couldn't prove otherwise. We can now.
The report is now out.

Speaker 2 This is as un-American as our withdrawal in Afghanistan.

Speaker 2 Why was that so offensive?

Speaker 2 Because we

Speaker 2 left in a humiliation. That's the least of my concerns.
We left in humiliation. We betrayed all of our allies and we left people behind.

Speaker 2 We never leave people behind. Never.

Speaker 2 That's one of our highest rules. You don't leave people behind.

Speaker 2 One of the biggest things about Americans is that we are generous, we are good, we're charitable, we help everybody. We are the world's lifeboat.

Speaker 2 And now we find out we had a president and an administration that was making a political list, a blacklist, where they would not give aid

Speaker 2 to Americans who were suffering.

Speaker 2 You're taking my tax dollars,

Speaker 2 and if I happen to be the one that needs aid, I don't get coverage

Speaker 2 because of who I voted for?

Speaker 2 It's the most offensive thing I've heard of our country ever doing on aid. Ever.

Speaker 2 Can you remember anything like this ever?

Speaker 2 I mean, they say democracy dies in darkness. Yeah, well, why don't you shine a light on some of these things?

Speaker 2 It doesn't die in darkness. It apparently is dying in databases.

Speaker 2 The FEMA database quietly flags citizens as politically undesirable.

Speaker 2 Let me ask you this. What would the media have said or done if Donald Trump had ignored those who lost their homes in California after the ravaging fire?

Speaker 2 If he didn't just show up, it would be bad enough, right?

Speaker 2 But he showed up. He brought his cabinet with him.
He brought FEMA. He brought relief.
He tried to cut all of the red tape in California. Couldn't get that done.
But he was there.

Speaker 2 Can you imagine if he just hadn't have shown up, which Biden never did, if he hadn't have shown up, worse yet, can you imagine what would be said if you found out

Speaker 2 that Donald Trump, his FEMA, was making a list and saying they voted for Gavin Newsom. They voted for Joe Biden.
No help for them on their house. Can you imagine the outrage? I would be outraged.

Speaker 2 I am just as outraged that it happened under the last administration. Why? Why am I outraged? Because it cannot happen.

Speaker 2 It cannot happen under any administration. You allow this to happen and stand.
Good luck, America, on what you have left.

Speaker 2 Will anything be done? Will anyone go to jail? Will the left be outraged by this?

Speaker 2 You want to talk about no kings? What is a king

Speaker 2 other than let that surf die?

Speaker 2 We don't care about those guys. They aren't for the king.

Speaker 2 You know, Mercury One has already rebuilt homes. We are we're moving people back into their homes every single day.

Speaker 2 I know it because I watch Mercury One do it.

Speaker 2 But not in California. We've tried in California.
Gavin Newson, the Democrats, they're not helping those people. They won't allow any help for those people.
Their own voters they don't care about.

Speaker 2 If you get in the way of this leftist administration, these leftists, you get in the way, it doesn't matter. Ends justify the means.
Let them die.

Speaker 2 You know, they keep warning you about authoritarianism, but here it is, cloaked in compassion, branded with a FEMA logo.

Speaker 2 This wasn't rogue, not a rogue agent. This is not a one-off scandal.
This was a database.

Speaker 2 The DHS investigation says political bias was systematic dating back to at least September 2021.

Speaker 2 That means that while the administration accused conservatives of conspiracy theories,

Speaker 2 it was literally compiling lists.

Speaker 2 And the media went right along with it. And will the media ever tell you this story?

Speaker 2 When what was her name, the FEMA administrator Criswell testified before Congress in 2021, she said, this was an isolated case. Well, unfortunately, Your files tell a different story.

Speaker 2 It's not isolated. It was national and it was deliberate.

Speaker 2 Homeland Security Secretary Christina said, quote, for years, FEMA employees under the Biden administrations intentionally delayed much-needed aid to Americans suffering from natural disasters on purely political grounds.

Speaker 2 This is not your political enemy. This is your neighbor.

Speaker 2 That's not mismanagement. That's moral rot.

Speaker 2 This is not just another Washington scandal. This is a betrayal of the covenant between citizen and state.

Speaker 2 But they're not going to tell you that. Media won't talk to you about that.
The Democrats won't do a damn thing about this. No one on that side will condemn this.

Speaker 2 But they'll talk to you all day today about how Trump is destroying the White House.

Speaker 2 Oh my gosh, he's destroying the White House and he's spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a ballroom of his own money.

Speaker 2 and other people who are donating. And you know what? They're not donating in secret.
secret it's all listed right there

Speaker 2 they don't go through arabella advisors or the tides foundation they give it straight and it's reported straight so you know who built that building

Speaker 2 my gosh

Speaker 2 They'll report on the White House today, but they're not going to report on your house, you know, when FEMA didn't show up because you were on their list.

Speaker 2 The moment this government decides that you are less worthy of rescue because of how you vote, your faith, your flag, a bumper sticker,

Speaker 2 you don't need

Speaker 2 darkness for democracy dying. The republic is dead.

Speaker 2 There is no republic. A republic represents all voters.
It ceases to exist. You do have a king.

Speaker 2 You know, weaponizing law enforcement against political opponents is really bad, but weaponizing disaster relief against ordinary citizens, people standing on their roof waiting for a helicopter that never comes, is something absolutely pitch black dark.

Speaker 2 If your politics can determine whether you live or die,

Speaker 2 we cease to be a republic.

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