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Hello, America.

You know, my job is to try to help you make sense of the world.

And one of the things I have not been able to make sense of, and honestly, it's because I've not put it on the front burner until yesterday, is what are we doing?

We're blowing boats out of the, you know, like...

What are they called?

Cigar boats, cigarette boats.

You know, these fast boats now like, you know, homemade submarines.

We're just blowing them out of the water in Venezuela.

And I just have not felt this was about drugs.

What is this about?

Well,

it is a war, but it's not a drug war.

And I mean, this is just my opinion.

And I believe war is America's way to learn geography.

As I started doing my homework,

if I asked you,

is Guyana in Africa or in South America?

What would you say?

And I say, I'll give you $1,000,

double down on your answer.

$1,000, double down on your answer.

I would have lost a lot of money.

Guyana is actually in South America.

This is how little we know about the rest of the world.

Honestly, the rest of the world should just look at this and go, America doesn't care.

No, we really don't.

We really don't.

So,

can you tell me what nation borders on Guyana?

Okay, you ready for this one?

Uh, Venezuela, Brazil, and Suriname.

There's another country I've never even heard of, and it's right off our coast.

Okay,

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Okay, so when we talk about the war on drugs, most people just kind of roll their eyes.

Okay, we've been talking about the war on drugs forever and it doesn't make any difference at all.

It's another failed campaign, another round of speeches, another generation is caught in the crossfire.

But what if I told you that the drug war that you're actually watching today

has almost nothing to do with cocaine or fentanyl.

I think the average person would go, yep, that sounds true.

And I believe it is.

It has everything to do with oil and minerals and the rebirth of American sovereignty.

What you have to understand about Donald Trump is he is reshaping everything.

Just as the WEF said, we're going to go for the Great Reset.

We're going to reshape the world.

He's doing that single-handedly.

He is taking on everything and reshaping the world

to have a stronger

America and one that is protected, not mired in endless wars,

and strong financially and militarily.

So we can protect ourselves with American sovereignty.

So what's taking place right now in South America is not a narcotics operation.

Again, this is my opinion.

You know, I was talking about it yesterday, and I'm like, it's like the Monroe Doctrine.

This may be as important as the Monroe Doctrine, which the Monroe Doctrine

was in this hemisphere, don't screw with any of our allies.

You're not going to put, you know, you're not going to put enemy ships and you're not going to play around with countries in our hemisphere.

This is our hemisphere.

America is supreme in this hemisphere.

You do your own thing.

But then we kind of got weak on that.

And now China is all over.

Russia was all over

the southern part of the Western hemisphere.

So what he's doing is he's putting a new Monroe doctrine together.

That's Donald Trump.

Now, look at the map.

You really have to look at it because I could say imagine the map and nobody can imagine them.

Venezuela.

Guyana, Colombia.

Okay.

Three names you almost never heard anything about on cable news five years ago.

And suddenly, they're the front page priorities for Washington, D.C.

and our military.

What?

Well, they're smuggling drugs.

Well, yeah, they might be, but they're also doing a lot of other things, including, as we told you, Terrorist Island in Venezuela.

They have Hamas and Iran in Venezuela.

But whoever controls this little triangle controls the Western hemisphere and controls the Western Hemisphere's future, its energy, its minerals, and its manufacturing independence.

And Venezuela is the fulcrum.

It holds the largest crude reserves on earth and it's oil that is perfectly suited for America's Gulf Coast refineries.

But China and Russia have been moving in.

They're like vultures sitting there offering loans and sweetheart deals to Venezuela, and Venezuela has become more more and more communist and more and more hostile to America and they are trying to mortgage that entire system to Beijing's state-run oil giants so what are we doing well we haven't done anything about it we've just let them go in

now all of a sudden we're doing navy drills in the Caribbean and we're doing sanctions We are moving more ships and more naval assets.

I mean,

it is a full-fledged onslaught.

We are sending a message, and I don't know we're sending a message just to the drug lords, okay?

This is a pressure campaign that kind of looks like the old drug war, but is really, I believe, designed to crowd out the Chinese influence.

This is about keeping Venezuela's energy in the Western family, not letting it become another victim of the Belt and Road initiative and a pawn of China.

Then there's Guyana, which I thought was in the other hemisphere.

I had no idea it was on this continent that's, you know, just below us, apparently called South America.

It's tiny.

It is

quiet.

And suddenly a gold rush of oil.

Now, an American company, ExxonMobil, leads the charge there.

And Washington isn't just helping fight traffickers.

It's defending America's offshore platforms.

They're building radar networks.

They're locking down the entire coast because it's not just about barrels.

It's about cables.

It's about information.

It's about pipelines.

It's about rare earth minerals.

All of those things are going to power the next century.

And then Colombia, we know because that was the first thing that all of a sudden Donald Trump started talking about

Colombia and then the Panama Canal.

And everybody's like, what are we talking about?

Back in 1958, no, nobody had talked about it.

Nobody had paid attention to it.

This guy is so far ahead of the curve.

He is so far over the horizon.

I don't think people really understand what he's doing.

Colombia is the hinge between the Caribbean and the Pacific.

So we were told for decades that the U.S.

military presence there was about fighting the cartels.

Maybe.

But I think the truth is that Colombia is the geographic and logistical bridge between the hemispheres, okay?

It guards both oceans.

It buffers the Panama Canal.

It sits atop minerals every modern economy needs now, lithium, rare earth, all of this stuff.

You control Colombia.

And you control the Western hemisphere's arteries.

Now, that's not drug interdiction.

That's grand strategy.

This hour, I kind of want to make sense of the world for you in two things.

And it all hinges around a theory that I'm

peddling, a theory, and I could be wrong on this,

that when I look at all of the dots, they don't make sense.

You know,

this is about that submarine with cocaine in it.

Really?

Is it?

We're sending our entire military out to get the submarine with, I mean, I want drugs to stop.

I get it, but really

doesn't make sense to me.

So, the dots don't make sense, and there's too many up on the board that just don't make sense unless you start to frame it in another direction.

And I did this last night with not only South America and what we're doing with Venezuela and the quote drug war, but also gold.

And so, I want to finish this in a minute, and then I want to move to gold because I want to tell you,

I think there's a grand strategy here that everyone is is missing.

Okay.

So why does all of this matter?

Trump is the first president since Reagan, I think, to understand that America's strength doesn't come from endless foreign wars.

It comes from owning the supply lines, from building the sovereign trade, the energy, the technology pipelines, all of the stuff that runs all the way through our hemisphere, not Beijing.

So he's not trying to make America the world's policeman anymore.

He's not doing that.

He's making us the secure citadel.

He is forcing every region, Europe.

Think about what he's done with NATO.

What is he doing?

We're not going to be your policeman anymore.

You got to step up to the plate.

You got to do it.

The Middle East, we're not going to be policemen here anymore.

All of you Arabs, you do it.

You get together.

You make peace.

He's brokering peace and also saying to the rest of the world, you need to step up.

And he's doing it in Latin America to the police themselves.

Every move you see, sanctions, seizures, aid freezes, even visa crackdowns.

This is all, I believe, about locking down critical resources before China does.

This is economic warfare disguised as moral policing, okay?

And the irony is...

It may be one of the smartest uses of the drug war apparatus we've ever seen.

This one actually might work and do something.

So, let me tell you something that nobody else is telling.

Let me give you what everybody else is missing.

This is not about ideology.

This is not about drugs.

This is about global architecture.

Trump is tearing down the old corrupt order,

the WEF Great Reset, corrupt global order, and he is building one

not on dependency and debt and endless intervention.

He's laying, he's chopping the trees down, he's paving a road, and he's laying the asphalt for a new one, a hemisphere that produces its own energy, defends its own borders, works together, and reclaims the American right to chart its own destiny while encouraging all other countries to do exactly the same.

And he's making as many allies as he can in any way he can.

That's what's really happening, I think, behind the headlines.

While everybody else is like, should we do this?

Before you talk about a drug war,

ask yourself, does that make sense?

Now, to everybody who is, you know, no kings, yeah, that might make sense, okay, because you're not thinking anyway.

I invite you to look at a much bigger picture.

We know the rest of the world was way down this path of a new global world government and a global world order.

We also know Donald Trump was never for that.

We know that Donald Trump doesn't like wars.

So why do we have the military at Venezuela of all places?

Because this is not about chasing smugglers through jungles.

This is about chasing China and Russia out of our own backyard.

It is a quiet, strategic, and I think, if I'm right on this, a brilliant reset.

Because if Trump succeeds,

historians are going to look back at this time and call it for what it truly is, the Second Monroe Doctrine.

The moment America stopped apologizing for defending its own hemisphere.

and

began rebuilding its own sovereignty.

Trump believes in a strong America, America first.

That doesn't mean we're going to leave every other country alone.

It just means we have to do the things that we have to do to make sure that we are strong enough and strengthen the countries around us as well and the countries that we have been protecting all these years, give them the impetus and also the

Also the ability to come together in their own regions and rebuild and protect their own sovereignty, one barrel, one chip, one border at a time.

Now, I have been warning you about $5,000 gold forever.

And there are two ways this gold rush could go.

Let me give you one way that it could go.

And then

after spending a few days talking to some people who think differently and saying, I don't understand what's what's happening here because everything would tell me that this is a flight to safety, which I believe it is.

But it is the central banks that are buying up most of this gold.

And it's the West.

So are they getting away from America or is something else happening?

So there's two ways the gold story goes.

Really, really badly.

Or

is it something strategic again from the Trump administration?

And the reason why I'm on this is because I sent an email to the office of Besant and I said,

okay, I'm kind of freaking out about $5,000 an ounce gold.

What's happening?

No comment.

Just sent a story to me.

That's all he did.

His response from somebody in his office was just a story.

At first, I didn't understand.

What is he trying to tell me here?

I want to share with you what I think I'm getting on gold.

And it actually, like the drug war thing, when you reframe it and you're looking at it from a different perspective, it actually might be really, really good.

All right, that here in just a second.

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Before I get to gold, I just asked Jason Buttrell to sit in here for just a second.

What are your thoughts on tying this all together?

What are your thoughts on you think this is right or wrong on what's happening with the drug war?

I think you're 100% correct.

And I think it goes a lot, lot, lot deeper with what, you know, just the machinations of China and what they're doing.

2027?

2027 is when they say they're going to invade Taiwan.

I have heard that from congressmen probably three or four years ago.

Look to 2027.

And I didn't realize this until recently, that 2027 is what China said.

Always take people at their word.

When they say we're going to kill you, take them at their word.

2027 is the year they say they are going to be ready to take Taiwan, right?

Yep.

And I think it's interesting that you're talking about the Monroe Doctrine, because if you look at the original intent of the Monroe Doctrine, one of the things that they said when they established it was,

you know, almost a direct quote, but not exactly, the age of European colonization is over.

in this hemisphere.

The old world, the European world does not fit.

It's not compatible with the new world, the United States.

Now we're kind of saying the same thing quietly, but directed at Asia, directed at China.

You know, you will no longer colonize, you know, places like South America.

I mean, Venezuela has been described as a, quote, foothold, a strategic partnership.

If China goes into Taiwan, we cannot

we cannot have a

region here off our coast that is not completely secure

because then we're fighting here at the homeland or in the Gulf of America, if you will, trying to push China back there as they are trying to push the Taiwanese out of their country.

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Okay.

Before I start this on gold, I want to ask you,

what is Donald Trump?

Is Donald Trump a guy who likes to cut the spending?

No.

He believes in debt, right?

But what he believes in more than debt is growing the bottom line.

So you grow your way out of things.

So

keep that in mind as I'm trying to make sense of gold.

And what I'm going to share with you is just a theory.

I think I might be right on this, but I don't know.

Okay.

Gold is rocketing.

You know, it's now almost, what is it, $4,300 or $4,400 an ounce today?

And I've always told you, you don't want to see a world with $5,000 an ounce gold.

That is when $5,000 an ounce happens,

that means the trust is going away for the financial system and the financial markets.

The dollar is starting to weaken.

And

the world is sending a signal.

We don't trust any of this anymore.

Now, that may be true.

That may be true.

But let me take you to another place because maybe something

is happening that doesn't fit that script because you're dealing with something new.

You're dealing with Donald Trump.

So

I think behind all of it, there is a new strategy that is taking shape in Washington.

Congress, you know, doesn't have the stomach to cut any of the spending.

And Donald Trump believes the opposite, grow your way out.

So that's a recipe for deficit that is really quite frightening.

But there is someone, and I think it's Besant,

who is finding a way to pull down the deficit without the usual political bloodshed.

One of the misunderstood tools in that strategy is something that you're going to be amazed that it hasn't happened before.

It is the revaluation of gold.

Right now, the government values its gold reserves.

We have 260 million Troy ounces.

That's what they say officially.

We might have none.

But we have 260 million Troy ounces.

But we only value it at $35 an ounce.

Why?

Because that's the price FDR in the 1930s set gold at and said it's worth $35 an ounce.

That hasn't changed.

So on paper, that means the government, all of our gold that we have on paper, the whole gold hoard is only worth $9 billion.

So, okay, so wait a minute, but the market price today is almost $4,500,

which would make that $9 billion actually worth $1.1 trillion.

Now think about that.

The United States is sitting on a trillion dollar asset and we don't even count it.

Why does this matter?

I want you to think of your home.

Imagine you're going into a bank and you want to go buy a car, okay?

And you have your salary and you're in debt and you're just barely making it, but your home on paper has only been valued at $5,000 because when your parents bought it all those years ago, it was $5,000, you know, and now you're sitting there and it hasn't changed in value.

It has in reality, but you're still counting it as the bank and saying, yeah, well, my grandfather or my father paid $5,000 for this, and so it's worth $5,000.

You know, the bank would know, no, it's not.

It's worth a million dollars today.

What changes if this is called mark to market?

This is a usual thing.

You mark the price to what the market value is.

Your price of your house goes down.

You are poorer on paper because the value of your house has gone down and it's marked to market.

If the price has gone from $35 an ounce to $4,500 an ounce, then you mark to market and everything changes.

Suddenly, if that's your house, $5,000 to $1 million, now you can buy that new car.

You walk into the bank and you're like, I'm going to buy a $50,000 car.

And they're like, well, let me see your assets.

And you're like, oh, well, you have a house that's been paid off and it's worth a million dollars.

Where yesterday it was worth $5,000.

Today it's worth a million dollars because it's actually worth that if you sold it.

And so the bank goes like, oh, you're fine.

You're fine.

Yeah, sure.

Here's 50 grand.

Go buy that car.

Suddenly, your profile looks different overnight.

Okay.

That is what I believe is coming.

in America.

I believe they're going to revalue gold.

That without raising taxes, without cutting a single program, it would instantly improve the nation's balance sheet.

Our debt to asset ratio would shift dramatically.

Have you noticed in the last year, everybody's like their debt to their debt to

asset ratio is way out of whack and they're now 125%, whatever it is.

That would change.

The dollar would legitimately appear to be stronger and the deficit, at least on paper, would shrink.

Now

add to that again what Donald Trump believes and you may not agree with it, but he believes I can grow the economy.

So you combine that with the H-1B visa fees.

You do the tariffs expected,

you know, to bring in money, and then also the expected $8 to $12 trillion in foreign capital investments that are flowing into the United States.

If all of that is real, suddenly

the picture doesn't look quite so desperate because it looks like we are growing again and we actually would be growing again.

The debt doesn't shrink by cutting.

It shrinks by growing.

It shrinks by growing the economy and expanding the economy beneath it.

That's Trump's mark.

That's always what he's believed in.

So while I've been sitting here going, you you don't want $5,000 of gold,

you don't, but it also might be a good thing.

Let me give you this.

There's more.

Washington is floating the idea, and Mike Lee got hammered for this, but this is a besant idea.

Mike Lee is floating the idea of selling off portions of vast federal portfolio.

We have all this land.

These are not national parks.

These are not.

We have millions of acres of un unproductive and unused territory

i have known this from central bankers for 20 years that they actually have said we should sell the national parks you don't have much national i don't want you selling the national parks what are you talking about no we're not selling the national parks

but that's not what they're talking about they're talking about cutting the inefficiency out of every department and and taking land that is unusable unusable and sellable, that the government is holding and doesn't need to hold, selling that land,

which would allow us to build more houses, expand, et cetera, et cetera,

and increase the bottom line on the balance sheet.

Suddenly, with all of this,

the pressure valves are opened up.

Okay.

Also put in here, nobody seems to be panicking about the government shutdown.

And what is the government shutdown doing?

What is Besant hoping he gets an opportunity to do?

Cut.

So now you're expanding with gold, the possibility of selling federal land at some point.

You're bringing in $12 trillion of investment.

You're getting the raw earth minerals from Venezuela and from South America and elsewhere in the world.

You've solved our military peace problem.

We're no longer the world's policemen, so we're not having to do all of that stuff, which is a drain on blood and treasure.

All of a sudden, you're starting to see that America is actually shoring itself up.

So what looks like chaos right now may actually be a controlled implosion.

of a broken system.

Because remember, this is exactly what the left was going to do.

The left through the WEF and the Great Reset, they wanted to implode the system, but they had a safety net that we were going to fall into, and that was a global world order.

Donald Trump doesn't believe in the global world order, but he does believe we are in trouble.

He knows that.

He has a different idea.

I think we might be seeing a reanchoring of America's finances in hard assets, real productivity.

And if Besson and the president can pull this off, we may be watching the birth of

the building of a new foundation of a new financial order, one where

we're regrounding ourselves in value that's actually real.

It's dangerous if confidence breaks, if the terrorists who are already here, thank you, Joe Biden, manage to disrupt the perception of reality.

If we start having, you know, real trouble on our streets and we go unstable, then the illusion flips.

The revaluation becomes a revelation that even gold cannot cover the sins of a government that has just not paid attention for this long.

And

there's no pretending that.

But if we can hold together this fragile unity in our country long enough and they can revalue the system and re-jigger the system.

Keep your eye on gold.

It may be the canary in the coal mine.

It may be this is real trouble.

But remember, not every alarm means disaster.

It's how you react to it.

I would have told you four years ago, and I did, when we said,

we're going to kick Russia and China off the SWIFT system.

That's a really bad idea.

Because you have no plan.

You have no replacement for the Swift system.

You're now taking the assets of a sovereign country and saying, yeah, we can do that.

That will drive the price of the dollar down.

People will sell our reserve currencies.

And the only thing they had as backup was a global new financial order that none of us wanted.

Notice we're not talking about CBDCs.

We're talking about gold.

This government is talking, Donald Trump is talking about rebalancing and growing, not a global world order.

So it could be that the price of gold is

just a fire that could burn out of control, as it would have just a few years ago, and it still may.

But it also may be that the rise in gold and what's happening with Donald Trump is a backfire, is a

you know when you when you set fire in a forest fire and you burn back into it to put it out, this may be a fire that we are setting that could put all of this out.

It may

this heat may actually forge something new because I think there's real

strategy here.

When you look at what I talked to you about a minute ago, why are we bombing those boats?

That's strategy for something bigger.

That's not

a war on drugs.

It's not.

That's strategy for something bigger.

Knowing that he's resetting the entire world.

Knowing that he likes the revaluation of things and he likes to grow the asset sheet.

Knowing he's not a dummy.

Knowing that he wants to keep America's sovereignty true.

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I want you to know everything I just told you about the reevaluation of gold.

I mean, that is almost a nuclear option.

But

I think Donald Trump is somebody who, you know, he just rebuilt the nuclear arsenal.

He will use it if he has to, He doesn't want to.

And when it comes to reevaluation of gold,

before

the dollar would collapse,

he would do these kinds of things.

But it has to happen in conjunction with several other things because it would cause additional short-term problems and possibly long-term problems if the world viewed that as

we're defaulting on debt.

We're just inflating our money to pay off debt.

Then that would be a very, very bad thing.

Yeah, very bad thing.

Because what he could do is say, all dollars now, he could go back to the gold standard.

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No.

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Try to get the Democrats to do it.

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Unfortunately, no.

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It is worth considering.

It is the answer.

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So, every morning when you were growing up, I was growing up, we would start our class with that, the Pledge of Allegiance.

My job is to try to help you make sense of the world, of what's going on, and then try to help find ways to make it easier to navigate and to repair our country.

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So we're all looking for answers.

And, you know, know, one of the things I'm basing,

I'm changing in my life is I have always thought big.

And I have, I've always had big vision on things.

And it's allowed me to do the things that I have done in my life.

If you believe it, if you can see it and you can see it finished, it will happen.

You just keep moving forward.

But I think I need to change that to some degree.

I still need to dream big.

We all need to dream big, but we have to start thinking small.

When you think small, you can see the little things right in front of you

that you can change that will make the difference in your life and eventually make the difference in your family's life and your country's life.

So think small.

Dream big.

See this big vision that you want, but then think small.

Okay.

So let's go to the smallest thing, something we all learned as we were kids.

What is the solution to fixing our country?

Let me take this line by line.

I pledge allegiance.

Those first three words, that's a solemn vow, okay?

That's not a casual statement.

It is a binding promise.

You are pledging.

allegiance and allegiance is more than just an agreement.

It is loyalty.

It means I choose to stand.

I'm going to stand here, I'm going to stand with, I'm going to defend, and I'm going to uphold something.

I pledge, more than a promise, I pledge allegiance, and I'm going to do it even when it's hard, even when it costs me.

I pledge allegiance.

That is not lip service.

That is a declaration of devotion.

To the flag.

The flag is not just cloth and stitching, and you are not pledging your allegiance to that piece of cloth.

You're pledging your allegiance to the flag, which is the embodiment of an idea.

It is a visual representation of the nation itself.

When I pledge my allegiance to the flag, I am pledging not to the fabric, but to the principles, the history, and the sacrifices that that flag represents.

Every fold, every star, every stripe is a reminder of lives given dreams pursued and a promise kept through centuries of struggle I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

we look at the United States of America now and you see that kind of just as words on a map the United States

That's not what the United States is.

That was never what

it was designed to be.

Okay?

The United States means separate sovereign states that has joined this union by choice into one republic.

It reminds us that our strength is not found in our diversity.

It's nor is it found in our uniformity.

It is found in our unity,

the United States of America.

That's diverse people, diverse cultures, diverse communities that are all bound and share the principles of liberty and law.

America is not just a place.

We have to reframe this.

It's not a place.

It's not a map.

It's a covenant between free people in individual states to

build something greater together than any of us could do by ourselves or as a single state, maybe except for Texas, but that's a different story.

And to the republic for which it stands.

This line is crucial.

We are not a democracy because a democracy always devolves into mob rule.

We are a republic for a reason.

And what a republic means is that you are governed by law, not whims.

It means our rights are not subject to popular vote.

They are endowed by our creator and protected by a constitutional system designed to guard them even from the passions of the majority.

And the flag stands for that system, the balance of our liberty and order.

One nation.

One.

Not fractured by

region, not fractured by race.

not fractured by ideology, not red states and blue states, but one single nation made up of 50 sovereign states, all different.

This is a reminder that despite our differences, we share a common destiny, a common goal.

We rise together, we fall together, and that oneness is not automatic.

That oneness has to be chosen by each generation, by each citizen, and defended and renewed by every generation.

One nation

under God.

People try to make this all about a theocracy.

It's not about a theocracy.

This is humility.

This is a humble admission that our freedom and our rights come from a source higher than government.

Therefore, they cannot be taken away or changed by government because the government doesn't have the power.

They're not issuing the rights.

They can't control the rights.

They can't take the rights away or add new rights.

Those all are issued by a power greater than man and certainly greater than government.

It's a reminder also, in humility, that power must be restrained.

That we are accountable

to more than just ourselves.

It's the acknowledgement that liberty without virtue will collapse and that virtue requires something greater than yourself or greater than man

one nation indivisible

when I was a kid I always thought it was invisible and I was like I don't think it is but indivisible this is not a description

This is a challenge

and one that we have forgotten.

Indivisible means we don't allow hatred.

We don't allow division.

We don't allow ideology or faith to rip us apart.

It means that even when we disagree fiercely, we hold on to the bonds that we have all chosen as individual sovereign people and sovereign states to bind us together.

We hold on to those bonds that make us one people.

We don't secede from one another.

We do the hard work of staying united because division is the surest path to tyranny.

With liberty,

this one's gotten so screwed up over the years.

Everybody thinks freedom means, I don't know, freedom to do whatever you want.

Liberty is not license.

It's not doing whatever you want whenever you want.

It is the freedom to live by conscience, to speak truth, to pursue happiness without coercion.

It's freedom that has been purchased with blood and preserved with vigilance.

It's the foundation that everything else stands on.

All other rights stand on that.

And it must be exercised responsibly or it will be lost.

We are not exercising it responsibly.

That's why we're having so many problems.

We misunderstand liberty and justice.

The next line.

Justice is not revenge, be it the Democrats or the Republicans, be it Joe Biden or Donald Trump.

It's not revenge.

It's not equity

or equality of outcomes.

That's not justice.

Justice is the fair and impartial application of the law.

Blind to wealth, to power, to politics.

Justice is the glue that holds liberty with responsibility together.

And without it, without justice, freedom devolves into chaos.

With it, even the weakest among us are protected.

That should be the goal for all of us, is that kind of justice.

And the final two words are the most radical.

For all.

They're also the most difficult.

For

all.

Not just those who look like me, not those who think like me, not those who go to my church or don't believe in God.

Not just those who vote like me, not just for the deserving.

The ones who followed the rules with COVID, they got the shot, no.

Not those who are popular.

Liberty and justice are promises extended to every soul because the worth of this nation is not measured by how it treats the powerful, how it treats the popular, but how it treats the least among us, the most despised, the poorest, the most invisible.

As a kid, I said the Pledge of Allegiance a million times.

I still say it.

But I don't think any of us think of each word and why it's there.

It's not a poem.

You're not reciting a poem.

You are making a personal commitment.

And this is the solution to fixing our country.

You want to fix the country.

There's the grand dream, right?

There's the big dream.

How?

When you think small, think every single line of the Pledge of Allegiance, because that's the answer.

No matter how you voted, if you believe in those lines and understand what each line and each word means and why it was chosen, now you can make a personal commitment.

You can make the commitment to defend liberty when it's under threat,

to pursue justice when it's inconvenient,

to remain united when division is much easier and much more popular,

to place principle above party and creator above state.

I pledge allegiance to the flag.

This is not a vow to the flag.

It is a vow to a living idea.

that free people, bound together under God,

humble under God,

can govern themselves with liberty and justice for all.

And that you, not somebody else, are responsible for keeping that promise alive.

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Let me say hello to Stu Bregier, our executive producer.

Hello, Stu.

Thanks, Glenn.

I pledge allegiance to the flag.

Thank you very much.

You mean the actual flag, though, not the whole thing?

Oh, I don't care about what you said.

Don't you burn that flag.

No, yeah.

It's an interesting thing because you do kind of,

I mean, you listen to those kids at the beginning of the monologue, and there is a bit of just you're just reciting it.

Well, listen to, you know, listen, play that again, Sarah.

Listen, it's almost a song.

At this age, they've almost memorized it as a song.

Listen.

I

let

allegiance

to the flag

of the United States of America.

But that's how we all, that's how I remember saying it too back in the day.

Me too.

Does that happen at all anymore?

Do they still do that at school?

I don't know.

I don't know.

You know, my kids go to a private school and they do, they do it there.

Yeah, mine did too, and so they did it there, but I don't, I don't know if public school does it anymore.

I mean, I will tell you, I was just talking to Patriot Mobile the other day.

You know, I think they, what was it?

Gosh, it was some crazy number, 10,000, 30,000.

I don't remember.

10 commandments were put in all of these schools all across Texas.

And a lot of it was done by Patriot Mobile.

They just paid for it.

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If they're presented to classrooms and they fit this description, they have to be this big and everything else.

They have to be posted in every classroom.

So Patriot Mobile took all their some of their profits and they just printed up all of these

10 commandments and put them on all the schools.

Public schools.

Texas is changing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Texas is changing.

Now, you know, the textbooks are going to take till 2031, I think.

They're changing textbooks now, but it won't be in print and in the classrooms until 2031.

That seems like a long way away.

Yeah.

Luckily, school choice is coming before that.

So,

and hopefully will be expanded massively before that.

It's in a lot of states now.

So, you know, whether you, you know, it's been difficult for parents at times to choose public school because of all the financial concerns or private school because of the financial concerns associated with it.

That's changing too across the country in big way.

You know, again, lots of negatives went along with COVID, but this is one of the positives that came along with it.

Parents woke up and they shook up their governments to make sure that they could make the choices for their own kids.

We had our big Mercury One fundraiser this last weekend, and Linda McMahon came.

She was sitting on the table right next to me.

And we were talking about schools and

these radical unions.

And she's like,

I said, so what can we do in the unions?

And she said,

I don't know,

private schools, school choice.

That's the fastest way.

She's like, that's why they hate private schools because you don't have to have, you know, you don't have to have the union in

private schools.

And she said, you know,

keeping states free where you can,

you know, choose not to be in a union.

She's like,

that's another big thing that can happen.

But dismantling the schools and dismantling the overwhelming

influence of the teachers' unions is going to take a while, and it's being dismantled one little bit at a time.

But if we can get school choices, and it's happening here in Texas now, you get that done, and

it changes almost everything in a very, very good way.

Yeah, I can't stand the teachers' unions.

I hate them.

Many of the teachers are wonderful people.

Yes.

The teachers' unions are pretty awful.

Like, I saw a story that we can get into maybe later, but it was described as an agreement between the government and the

American Federation of Teachers.

And that's...

That always, I feel like, does not lead to good outcomes.

I don't think that

we can all be happy about agreements.

No.

But

if it doesn't lead to a positive outcome, then I'm not for agreements.

Same way I'm not for bipartisanship when it leads to slop.

Okay.

And that happens often with bipartisanship.

Sounds so wonderful, but usually leads to crap.

All right, I want to talk to you a little bit about the AI bubble when we come back.

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The AI bubble, is it a bubble?

Is it not a bubble?

I don't know.

Are we close to AGI or not close to AGI?

Again, I don't know.

Is it going to change things?

Yes, I saw a story.

It's in our show prep today.

I'm not going to have a chance to get it, but you should read it.

It's about other countries that are building these giant server farms, and they're not getting, I mean, their electricity and their water is being shut off because all of it's being diverted to these big server farms.

And if we're not careful, that's exactly what's going to happen to us.

Peter Atwater is a guy that Stu and I have been talking about for a while because he's comparing this AI bubble.

He's like, look, I want to just show you a chart.

And I'm not smart enough to figure out the chart, but let me just show you the chart.

And now let me show you a chart I did like in 2007 or 2008 with the housing bubble.

While they kind of look exactly the same, and it's a little frightening.

Peter is with us now, Peter Atwater from the College of William and Mary.

He's an adjunct lecturer there.

He's the guy who coined the term K-shaped recovery.

Welcome to the program.

How are you, sir?

I'm great, Glenn.

Thanks very much for having me.

You bet.

Okay, so

can you explain the housing bubble, or not the housing bubble, the

AI bubble?

Do you believe it is?

And if so, why?

And what does that mean?

I do believe it is.

And I study confidence and its impact on what we do.

And so what I see in the AI bubble is a lot of similarities to what we saw during the housing bubble, where everybody wants to be involved.

There's a social frenzy to it.

There's a want to

make a lot of money, to see the opportunity in it.

There's a lot of speculation.

And

what matters so much to me as a researcher is that this network that existed in

the housing bubble where mortgages were sliced and diced and you had these conveyor belts that moved everything from

mom and pop's house to folks all over the world,

now exists within the AI system, where you have enormous amounts of capital moving, but also equipment.

So it looks a lot like the just-in-time network that we saw stumble during COVID.

Okay, that doesn't make me happy.

But there's a difference between the housing bubble where it was all being inflated and resold and repackaged and this, which

does seem to be a game changer on productivity, where housing was not.

This seems to be like it could be a real game changer for economies.

Agree or disagree?

Oh, there's no question it'll be a game changer.

But we can think about it the same way we said dot-com was going to be a game changer.

Like railroads and all of these other things that we have in terms of speculative manias,

there's real productivity, real improvement that comes from it.

But what happens is that investors anticipate it happening far sooner, in far larger scale, and much more profitably than it ever does.

So what are you predicting?

How is this going to happen?

What's

bad case scenario, not necessarily worse.

I don't know if I can handle worse.

Bad case scenario and realistic scenarios.

So, to me, the realistic scenario is that valuations come down dramatically.

At the same time, the build out continues at a much lower pace.

And eventually, maybe a decade from now, it all settles out.

But in the meantime, there's a lot of financial pain that's going to go along with it, particularly because today,

more than 40%

of the SP 500

ties to AI.

Like seven companies, right?

Seven companies and the ones that are closest to them.

So that retirees, pension plans,

folks that invest in index funds have a supersized allocation to AI, whether they realize it or not.

Can you give me an example of this happening in history

that's not housing, but more industry?

Sure.

You can go back to radio in the 20s.

I mean, RCA

was a mammoth weight.

in the markets because people were incredibly excited about it.

You saw it, you know, you can go back even further to canals.

I mean, we love

new technology, particularly where we can identify the efficiencies that we see coming from it.

One of the things that is really interesting about the charts you've highlighted, Peter, is this sort of circuitous relationship between these companies, where, like, just to try to ⁇ it's too complicated to go through all of it, but just to give you one quick relationship here, and tell me if I'm understanding this right.

OpenAI,

of course, buys a bunch of chips from Nvidia.

They're spending a ton of money with Nvidia.

Nvidia is investing $100 billion into OpenAI.

OpenAI

has a $300 billion cloud deal with Oracle.

Oracle is spending tens of billions of dollars in chips with Nvidia.

And then Nvidia is investing into OpenAI.

And like, there's a bunch of these arrows that are just pointing in these circular directions where it seems like these same companies are just flowing money back and forth to each other in all these arrangements.

And you wonder if there's any disruption here.

Are we looking at some sort of at least short-term collapse of all this stuff?

The dog eating its tail phenomenon is extraordinary here.

And what's so unusual about this one is in prior bubbles,

the conveyor belts were among smaller participants.

But in this one, we have the largest technology companies in the world spinning money around among themselves.

It looks like one of those Escher drawings where the waterfall just keeps moving in perpetuity.

And the challenge, particularly given that OpenAI is at the center of it, is that this is a company that is barely profitable, that is committing to hundreds of billions of dollars in commitments.

So what does it look like if it starts to fall apart?

And

what are the signs we should be watching for?

So

what we know right now

is that everybody wants to be affiliated with AI in some way.

And so you end up with these late arrivals to the party.

And typically when a bubble bursts, The last guy to the party is among the first to leave.

So we could think about this in the context of the mortgage bubble where it was the subprime lenders who showed up right at the tail end and then collapsed first.

So I'm watching to see these companies that are barely AI related that have tried to position themselves as being AI industry leaders who are likely to fail in the not-too-distant future.

They just need rarefied air to exist.

Like what companies?

I don't have specific names to throw out there, but they're typically smaller, highly leveraged,

offering

very, very

compelling but untested technology.

Now, this would be, I mean, if it collapses,

I mean, that would be horrific for our economy.

But also,

what happens with the race with China?

I mean, China is deeper into this than we are, like crazy.

How does this affect China?

What happens to the race?

How does, I mean, how does this not move forward?

So I am by no means a China expert, but I would expect that if our confidence in AI begins to fall, confidence in AI more broadly will come under question.

So

they then face questions in terms of policymaker credibility, in terms of why did you commit so much to this?

No difference than a CEO faces that test when a bubble bursts.

So what does success look like to you?

Because I'm not sure.

I had a really fascinating conversation a couple of weeks ago, and he's going to come on the show in a couple of weeks with Max Tegmark who is brilliant AI ethicist and we were talking about ASI AGI and he believes that that may not be happening and he's got a great he makes a great case on this but is that the goal or I mean because

what what is the goal that we're not going to hit that would fall short that would that would cause this kind of stuff

so I think you we tend to fall short in terms of immediate usage, so volume short, but also profitability.

You know, if you go back to the dot-com bubble and companies like Pets.com, I mean, they all imagine this huge, you know, pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

And you're seeing the same wild fascination with the potential profitability for AI.

And again, that may come, but it's unlikely to come at the speed and magnitude that people now expect.

I mean, we're fantasizing now.

Boy, I mean, in a way, that would be really, really good because

what I worry about is AI advancing as quickly as everybody says it is.

And then what happens to all of the jobs so quickly?

I mean, you just can't absorb that kind of an impact if it happens that fast.

So I don't know which is better.

So typically we'll see a backlash against new technology.

I mean if you if you go back to the you know the 1920 bubble burst and you saw this backlash to innovative technologies like the vacuum and

the ironing board and all these things that people were saying took jobs away.

And we'll have that same thing in all likelihood.

And this time too, to your point you made earlier, likely compounded by a greater awareness of the environmental consequences of this and also the cost that it creates to the average consumer in terms of their utility bills.

Can you explain one more thing?

Because you're the guy who invented the K-shape.

And as Stu and I were talking about this earlier, I don't understand the K-shape recovery.

Can you explain that K-shape recovery?

Sure.

So when COVID hit, I immediately saw that if you were a white-collar worker who could work from home, your confidence improved immediately.

Whereas if you a, you know, somebody who worked in a warehouse or stock shelves in the supermarket or a hospital worker, your confidence didn't start to improve for a long time.

And from that,

what I've seen is that the economy that results from these two different tracts of confidence are vastly different.

And today,

Those at the top, whether it's because of the markets or because of corporate earnings growth, those at the top feel invulnerable.

And they're spending like it, they're investing like it, they're living like it.

They're living like there's no tomorrow.

On the other hand, those at the bottom today aren't sure how they're going to make it through the day.

They're delinquent on their car loans.

They're now worried about health care costs.

And so to me, this K,

these divides, has created two classes of Americans.

You have the increasingly desperate and those who feel invulnerable.

That does not sound stable long term.

It doesn't feel stable to me, too.

And I worry that those who are in a position to do something about it,

we're spending so much of our time in this country fighting between the left and the right, and we're not seeing that our biggest divide is up and down.

That those at the bottom,

there is a bipartisan hopelessness that exists

that I feel like Washington is not paying enough attention to.

Boy, I would love to have you back, Peter, and just talk about that and what can be done, what we should be talking about, what we should be doing on that, because I agree with you.

I think that is a really bad problem, really bad problem.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate the opportunity, Glenn.

Thank you.

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He needs to get off the sidelines, get off the golf course, and actually decide to end the shutdown that he's created, that he has allowed to happen.

We know that House and Senate Republicans don't do anything without getting permission from their boss, Donald J.

Trump.

And the reason why there have been no negotiations, zero negotiations.

Stop.

I mean, that's a joke.

I mean, just a total joke.

He really is.

He is the worst Speaker of the House or possible next Speaker of the House I've ever seen.

He has no juice at all.

Yeah, Nancy Pelosi at least had juice.

She was terrible in a lot of different ways, but has juice.

This guy is just a dice.

He's just a zilch.

And get him off the golf course?

What?

He's been all the way.

Well, he sometimes does have to get off the golf course when the donors to his party are trying to kill him.

That does happen from time to time.

Thanks for chipping in there.

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So there's a lot going on in the news today we need to get to.

You know, one, they're tearing down the White House.

Did you know that?

George Washington, he's been taken from his grave.

They paraded his bones around and rearranged them into a king crown.

I don't even know why.

But that's what they did at the White House and now they're tearing it down and

they're dancing on the rubble.

Or not.

Or it's not exactly what they're telling you it is.

It's the most incredible...

I mean, you have chat GPT.

It's not hard to find out the history of something anyway.

You don't even need a book.

You don't need to call a library.

You don't need to look anything up.

You just go, I got GPT.

Where was the White White House built?

What happened with the West Wing and the East Wing?

Who built that?

And he will tell you.

New York Times, but

I don't like AI.

Oh my gosh, you're morons.

Just more.

I'm sorry.

This is not what Jesus would do.

All right, let me come back to this here in just a second.

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We've covered a lot of stuff today.

In hour number one, we hit what I call the New Monroe Doctrine.

What is really happening in Venezuela?

Everybody is talking about that.

We're just trying to bomb these drug cartels.

No, we're not.

No, we're not.

I have a theory on that, and I think it's much, much, much, much, much different than what everybody says.

Also, we've been saying, watch gold.

Gold, $5,000 an ounce, really not a good thing.

And we're at, what, $4,400, $4,200 today?

And it just keeps going.

And something just doesn't make sense to me

because I know

why that happens, but

something different is happening.

And I tried to explain that in hour number one.

If you missed the podcast today, make sure you get the podcast and

listen to that.

Now, let's talk about a couple of other things.

This shutdown.

I, for one, am thrilled.

My life hasn't changed one iota.

No?

No.

What about all the things that the government does for you?

No.

Have you what?

No?

No.

Not a thing?

No.

Not even a minute of

not a second.

Okay, now there are those people that build things, make things that the government buys or the government uses.

And so they're thinking about it because if the companies that are making stuff for the government or the government, you know, you live in a place where there's a lot of government workers and you own a restaurant.

Now all those government workers are not coming into your restaurant.

You're concerned.

Or if you have to be you happen to be a drug dealer in Washington, D.C.

You know, business might be down.

I know.

They're not getting hookers.

Yeah.

Big, big recession.

I would say maybe the great

recession going on right now in the hooker industry.

Yeah, in Washington, D.C.

So, but, you know, so there are some people that are really hurting, but they are one way or another linked to the government.

That is a problem.

We should probably not have a third of our economy based on the government.

If it's only a third now, it might even be higher than that.

Do you want it more or less?

I just have to say that.

I just would like to be less.

I'd like to be less.

Interesting.

I'd like it to be like zero.

Quite unlikely.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would like to leave.

That's really low.

Federal government?

Yeah.

I think I could do that.

I think I could do that.

Anyway,

so what is happening?

This whole thing, this is just this joke between the

Republicans and the Democrats and the media.

Media is not covering it.

Media is not covering anybody who's really been hurt.

That's a shock.

And we should note, again, how shocking of a development that is.

We've been through a million of these things.

All we get in government shutdowns are stories, sob stories about sad people, single moms,

crushed orphans.

Children without eyes can no longer get their eye transplanted.

Right, because

the government was providing the eye transplants.

And now all eye transplants have been deleted.

So those children are going to be blind forever

because of the evil Republicans.

Every single time.

And you know what?

Maybe it's good they're blind so they don't see the destruction of this society.

Right.

So here is, so here is what is, you know, that's puzzling to some people, but that's going to change.

And Stu and I were talking about it.

It's going to change in November.

And that may be what the Democrats are waiting for.

Yeah.

Because the healthcare subsidies, so you know, these were the things that we all said we have to do during COVID.

And then Joe Biden said, Well, COVID might last 10 years.

And so they just made these subsidies just continue until now.

And so these were never part of the system.

They were never expected.

And now, because the government gave them, now people are expecting them.

And so

your copay and your

monthly Obama bill is going to go up, but generally where it was.

You're going to return to where it was.

Right.

And just to, again, kind of rewind in history, what we're talking about here is the Affordable Care Act.

This would be going back

to what they called the Affordable Care Act.

The thing they are saying is going to not be affordable is called the Affordable Care Act.

They passed it.

We dealt with it.

We said it sucked.

They said it was going to save everything.

We went through a long period of time where I believe it sucked.

During that time, our side lost its spine on that point.

So they decided to just go along with it.

Then everyone got used to the sucky situation that they had.

And then COVID hits.

COVID hits.

We go through, and this is also an important point.

We go through COVID.

You know, Donald Trump is president at the beginning of that.

These subsidies are not included at that time.

Then we get into 2021.

Joe Biden takes over and then he passes a bill after we've all kind of moved on with our lives, at least in certain states, and decides to pass giant subsidies to say, hey, we'll make your health care more affordable.

People go along with it.

Why?

Because we're in the middle of a pandemic.

It's a year.

We're just going to do a year.

Then the Inflation Reduction Act comes through and they say, well, no, we're going to do now four more years of this, even though we're already at this point long past COVID in any real sense.

Obviously, some people still get it, but you know what I'm saying.

Right.

And remember the whole thing about the, you know, inflation

recovery or reduction act,

that was cloud and pivot.

That's collapse the system.

That was the whole point of that thing.

Spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, get people addicted and collapse the system.

Gave us all of that inflation that we all remember so fondly.

And it's important to note the democrats when pushing through this ridiculous thing they said was to reduce inflation then later admitted was a giant green bill and essentially cloud and pivot in disguise could have put these subsidies in for 10 years or 20 years or 50 years 100 years instead they chose four

so they're now expiring as we lead up to a midterm election well what that's a coincidence certainly a coincidence so we're going to get this increase, which again is going back to their plan,

their Affordable Care Act plan.

That's what the return is to.

But they completely say that this is now, we're used to it.

We've had these subsidies for five years.

So now any change from those COVID subsidies that were only supposed to be for the pandemic is now this terrible thing that you're doing to people and ruining their health care.

But as I was thinking about all of this,

and I think you've had these same thoughts,

when you think of a strategy and how this whole shutdown is playing out, the media has been very weird about it.

They have not covered all the SOP stories.

They have not created a sense of urgency for the shutdown to end,

which is what they always do.

Which is weird.

And I think,

at least, my working theory on this is that the reason for this is November 1st is the beginning of the signups for

Obamacare to go into 2026.

I mean the Affordable Care Act.

Yes.

They are planning, and this is why they've been setting this baseline, a baseline buzz of we're the people trying to lower your health care costs.

That's what the Democrats have been saying.

Not with lots of passion to open up the government because they don't actually want the government opening up yet.

What they want is for people to open up their little computers and go to the Obamacare website, assuming it works.

And when they get there, to be greeted with four times the amount of cost for some people, we'll see how that actually works out, but higher costs.

And then they will say, well, wait a minute, what's going on?

Oh, this is what they're fighting about.

And it was the Democrats that were trying to help us.

And the Republicans were trying to raise our costs.

Now, that's a typical partisan battle that Republicans, theoretically, have a really good argument on.

We just kind of outlined it.

Yes, they do.

No.

That it's a ridiculous COVID subsidy.

And they should have been talking about this the entire time.

No, wait, but the Republicans never have a good argument on anything.

Well, they have good arguments.

Do they use the good arguments?

No problem.

No.

And this does actually tie into what I'm talking about here because

I think the Democrats are doing this with the knowledge that they have already, when this stuff happens, enough Republicans to fold on this issue.

I think they already know that they can get enough Republicans once

the anger starts to break out to come to their side and fold, that they're not worried about pushing this forward.

They've already either talked to or just highly suspect Republicans will fold on this issue the second it presents itself.

We're already seeing cracks before it's happened.

And that the end of this game is that we on the right wind up, a bunch of representatives of us on the right wind up folding to this and giving a COVID era subsidy, or at least a good chunk of it, to the Democrats in reaction to whatever anger we see in a couple of weeks.

No, I see.

May I politely disagree with you?

I think what the Republicans are going to do is they're going to come up with a better plan.

They're going to cut the Democrats off by the knees and go, see, we told you this wasn't affordable, and that's why we need to change it this way, because it will make it more affordable to have health care.

We're going to free up the market a little bit, and then you won't have to worry about these subsidies at all, because

we've presented something that will actually work.

Are you M.

Night Shyamalan?

That is a twist.

That's not one I saw going.

That is like, whoa,

that never happens.

Yeah, because it does.

I see dead people.

It's never going to happen.

There will be Republicans who attempt that.

I mean, we've had plenty of plans that have been, some of them good, some of them not so great, but will they win?

Or

will the

pressure of

health care needs to be afforded?

I I mean, like, we've already seen multiple Republicans come out and already admit they want these subsidies.

There's already people on the right already saying it.

When the pressure actually hits,

every time in the past, we've always seen Republicans fold.

Now, look, Donald Trump does not seem like the type of guy who folds under this type of pressure.

And if he really cares about this issue, I don't think Republicans will fold on it.

I think if he's out there.

He cares about this issue.

But yeah, but I don't think it's central to what he.

What's central to him right now is making sure that people can afford their life.

And

any plan that they would have,

if it's a long-term plan to fix this, it doesn't help him right now.

He's got to win the midterms.

Gas is what, 304, lowest since 2020.

And you have eggs back to $1.19.

I mean, so affordability is happening, but people are not recognizing it enough.

And if you raise prices,

especially a big ticket item like that.

Like healthcare, that's all anybody's going to be talking about.

So

you don't see him as being centrally focused on this.

Obviously, he's got a lot of other things.

I mean, he's working on peace in the Middle East.

Because

this is not what he does.

He doesn't do this.

He doesn't do the

health care thing.

He doesn't.

He just hasn't.

And neither do the Republicans.

There's nobody that's actually putting anything forward that's going to be good.

I think HHS is working on something.

I think they're doing some things, you know, the way Donald Trump does them, you know, passes these

things,

you know, buried in other bills and then just moves them in.

And I think you're going to see.

And there are tweaks around the edges that you seem pretty confident about.

I am pretty confident that they're going to be making some tweaks, but it's going to take a long time.

It's going to take state by state.

They're doing it state by state.

And I think that could make a difference, but it's not going to make a difference in November, and it won't make a difference next November.

One thing I will say, though, about because I think you're right, Donald Trump is not like an ideological free market healthcare think tank guy.

That's like not who he is, which is, you know, again, he does a lot of other things really well.

I would love some of that in our lives, but, you know, not necessarily his focus.

But one thing that I will note that Donald Trump is very focused on and makes sure that he is a high-priority item is not losing.

And if the Republicans go through a shutdown that at this point, at the point of November 1st hitting will be about, I think at that time, technically the second longest shutdown in our history, but close to the first longest.

And he's going to say, he's going to be like okay with being like, all right, here's a bunch of free money that you've been demanding, that you've been holding us hostage to give you.

And that we just, by the way,

you know,

tried to work on in the last big beautiful bill.

Let's just give you a bunch of that stuff back.

Like

that doesn't sound like him either.

It doesn't.

Because it was in the big, beautiful bill, it's going to be harder.

But I,

you know, they might give it for a temporary period.

It might do it for six months or something like that.

I mean,

I could see them coming to the table and saying, okay, we're going to give you this money for six months

and it's got to get us past the shutdown that's supposed to what happened, November 18th or something.

There's another one coming.

Yeah, there's another.

November 21st, I believe, is another one of the

dates to watch.

It's ridiculous.

And I could see them trying to make that deal

right before

the Obamacare increases happen.

So they take away any victory from the Democrats.

But the Democrats may not accept that because they want that victory.

They need that.

Otherwise, they just look stupid.

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I mean, I just can't get into the, I mean, the

stupid Robert De Niro thing is just stupid.

Well, you still haven't really addressed why Donald Trump is knocking down the White House for his own.

Well,

he just hates America.

That's

what I've been reading.

Yeah.

And how crazy excited the left should be that he's knocking down something built by slaves.

They're like, we've got to preserve that.

That's first slaves made that.

It's weird.

I actually do have questions about this, though.

What question do you have?

Well,

and they come from

everybody's source of thinking these days, which are

group texts that I'm on with some friends.

Right.

Like, I have really basic questions of like,

I feel like there'd be like a conversation and a bill passed if we were going to put a giant new building at the White House, but nope, because that's not how it works at all, is it?

Nope.

How does it work?

I don't understand.

How does this work?

You ready?

Yes.

So the president says, I want to change the White House.

Okay.

And the White House architect says,

how would you like to change it?

And he says, this way.

And they say, okay, well, you need to approve all the permits.

Okay,

I approve all the permits.

Okay, we change it.

That's literally how it happens.

Really?

Yeah, people.

They can do anything they want.

Well, I mean, within reason, I mean, when I say within reason, I think with restraint from public outcry.

Like if I want to paint the White House black,

you know, well, as president, you can do whatever you want, but I don't think that will fly with the American people.

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You know, Stu is like freaking out about the White House.

I'm not freaking out.

I just think it's an interesting.

I thought there would be more of a process to something like this.

Nope.

Because I do not think at this point the American people understand what is about to happen, which is like the White House is about to double in size.

Just by my eyeball look at it, it looks like it's going to maybe be

more than two times the size.

It's going to be large, but it's not the actual White House.

It is part of the East Wing.

That's a totally misleading concept.

That's not because the White House is the original piece from the 1700s.

That's the center house.

The East Wing and the West Wing was not done until FDR.

They were added later.

The biggest change to the White House in the last, well, since FDR,

and happened in our lifetime, right after 9-11, the White House became enormous, but it was all underground.

It completely changed everything underground.

And we didn't have a conversation about that at all.

Because it's underground.

I assume all sorts of things are happening underground.

Our well-known monuments and buildings.

But this is a like they, it's not a,

they're changing.

They keep saying this, though.

They're going to be changing the West Wing.

That's not what they're doing.

East Wing.

The East Wing.

Sorry.

They're going to be changing the East Wing.

That's not what they're doing.

This is like doubling the size of the White House.

Now, I'm not opposed to that idea.

I'm just sort of surprised that

it wasn't like a big conversation and a bill.

All right.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

You ready?

Yes.

So was Donald Trump.

What do you mean?

So I'm in the White House with him and I'm up in the private quarters with him, and he's showing me some things that he is doing and talking to me about some other things that I can't talk about because he doesn't want,

I don't know why,

I didn't want to discuss it, and I don't know why, but because it's all really good stuff.

But anyway, so we're talking about it, and then he brings up the

ballroom.

And we're walking down the stairs from the residence, and we're going into the ballroom.

And he says, you know, there's the ballroom that Abraham Lincoln had dinner.

And I said, you know, it's that window over there that Frederick Douglass opened up the window and had to crawl in because they wouldn't let him in because he was black.

And Abraham Lincoln's like, let him in.

He's my friend.

Why is he coming through the window?

And we were talking about all the history of the ballroom and that it's very, very small because it was built in the 1700s.

And we keep using that ballroom.

And he's like, you got to have a bigger ballroom.

We have it out in the wet and the cold and the rain.

Yada, yada, yada.

And so he said we come over to a window and he's like right there i got to build a big beautiful ballroom

and it's going to be better than anybody thinks it's going to be the biggest most beautiful ballroom in a and i'm like i you know just trying not to laugh you know because it's that's the way he describes it and uh he said

you know i was surprised i could do that and i said i bet how long is that gonna take what's that process like and he's like right that's what i asked he said i went to the i went to the i don't know chief usher or somebody whoever's in charge of the White House, I think it's a chief usher.

He said, I think we should have a ballroom.

And he's like, what do I do?

And he said, well, you just have to talk to the architect.

So I went to the White House architect.

Now, this is the guy who makes sure the integrity of the White House stays.

Like, you can't make it into a modern

house.

Okay.

You're not going to redesign the inside and say,

you can add some gold, I guess.

You can add a lot of gold, I guess, but you can't make it into like, you know, you can't wreck the integrity of the White House.

And

he said, you know, I I just put these flagpoles in.

And he's like, all I had to say was, I want to put some flagpoles in.

They're like, yes, sir, where?

He's like, what?

And he's like, one in the front, one in the back.

And they're like, okay, just tell us where.

So he went out to the yard and was like, right here, right there.

And they put him up.

And so he's talking to the White House

architect.

And he said, we got to have a ballroom.

And I think we should have it over here in the East Wing.

You should have big, beautiful.

And he said, but what is this going to take?

And he's like, well, it's going to be very expensive.

Are you expecting the people to pay?

And he's like, no, I'll raise the money for it.

I'll pay for it.

And I'll raise the money extra.

So American people are not going to pay for it.

And the Arctic said, well, then all you have to do is sign the permits.

And he's like, what?

And he said, well, you have to go through the permitting process.

And he said, how long is that going to take?

And he's like, well,

the president is the one who controls the process and signs the permit.

So So, as short as you'd like it to be, Mr.

President, he's like, are you kidding me?

And he looked at me and he's like, I'll have this done by spring of next year.

So,

he can change it.

What you have to understand is

the East Wing and the West Wing,

those are FDR.

So, FDR went into a works project and he added those wings.

The East Wing is where the First Lady's offices are.

The East Wing is like, you know,

it's just the East Wing.

And it's

shade at the East Wing.

Yeah, I am.

But anyway, and so what he's doing is he's taking some of it down

and he's going to link it to the ballroom.

And the ballroom is going to be the biggest, beautiful ballroom in Washington, D.C.

It's going to link from there.

So you'll walk, if you're in the White House, you'll walk from the front door through the dining room or the East dining room.

You'll go into the East Wing and you'll go to the ballroom.

I'm looking at the renderings as we speak, and that's exactly.

I've not even seen the renderings.

Oh, you haven't seen them?

No, I just had him describe it to me.

Can I see it?

No.

Oh.

They're mine.

I think it's my computer.

This is the,

I can't obviously show you the people here, but you can see it over here.

It's big, beautiful.

What a surprise.

The tables are golden.

By the way,

it's different.

Holy cow.

My conversation about whether this is the

you can't, it's already zoomed in on that.

That's what I mean.

They're not the best images.

My here.

There's nothing wrong with that.

What's wrong with that?

It looks just like the white.

It fits.

It's appropriate.

I was in the middle of saying.

It's my conversation on this is not whether it is looks good or is appropriate or anything.

Like, I actually think his point on the ballroom is so obvious, every president should have been making it.

The fact that we don't have a big room to have state dinners in,

unless you wanted to do them off campus somewhere else, you have to have that.

And why not have it at the White House?

It makes a lot of sense.

Except I don't want to pay for it.

As a citizen, I don't want a time going for it.

You know what?

Hey, all you Frenchies, you can eat on the lawn.

Literally on the lawn.

We just throw the food.

Out on the lawn.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm fine fine with that.

But if he wants to pay for it, if he wants to get rich people to pay for it, go for it.

I don't want any of my tax dollars going to it.

Right.

So my criticism is not how it looks or that we need it.

I actually, they showed the inside of it, and it seems like the type of facility we should have for these types of events.

We're going to have them somewhere.

Yeah.

Why not have them there?

I think, you know, I think better to build it than

one of the best builders of all time.

We've had this conversation about how you project American power.

Yes.

And I think Trump's approach to, particularly, I mean, we've seen it in the Middle East, but I think it's been effective around the world.

These trappings actually are effective in diplomatic relations with other nations.

It's not like just, Donald Trump has a lot of places that are lined in gold.

He can have meetings.

It's not like that's what he wants it for.

The left tries to portray it as like, oh, he just wants a big, he just, of course, he does.

He wants this big run.

No, it means something to him, and he knows how these people think.

No, no, it, it,

because I asked him,

I won't tell the whole story.

I really want to, really desperately.

But,

you know, he's gilding everything.

And

that's not necessarily my favorite look, you know.

Right.

And

he came in, Tanya and I were alone in the oval for a while.

We were talking about it.

And he comes in, he says, you know, I'm doing all this.

You see all the gold?

I'm like, yes, I can't miss it.

You You can't miss the gold.

And he's like,

you know, it's so important.

These foreign leaders, they all come from palaces and they don't understand.

And I know, you know, the White House is different, America is different, but they understand power in a different way.

And he said, they're coming from these old countries and these big buildings and these palaces.

And he said, it is important for us to project power.

Yes.

And that's, and

that is why he's doing it.

It's not because he likes gold.

He's doing doing it to project power and wealth.

Notice how many prime ministers they're all flying in all the time from all over the world.

You know, I've never seen a president meet with so many foreign dignitaries in the White House all the time.

Yeah, and the media likes to say, well, that's because he's self-important.

And he's projecting American power.

I think so, too.

And when I say it's important to him, that's why it's important to him.

Because he believes it's an important tool in that world.

It's not him.

He knows the language they speak and not just body language or, you know, spoken language.

All of the entire, that's what protocol is all about.

It all means something.

And so my criticism, and it's not even criticism, my observation is not whether it fits or whether we need it or whether it's appropriate.

Mike, I don't think.

My observation here in the group text that we

started this with was just that like, holy crap,

I don't think the American people have any idea what's about to happen.

Like, every time I bring this up to Glenn, and you have to understand how these conversations work, I say, people are going to look at the White House and it's going to be totally different.

He's like, oh, Prison Tyler did more than that.

Shut up.

That's what I get from Glenn.

Oh, well, there was more changes underground.

You don't understand the piping.

They totally changed the

wiping back in 1807, you moron.

Okay, I'm sorry.

I didn't know that.

What I think of, and you know, FDR made these changes.

My life, it's been the same pretty much from the outside.

I know what the White House looks like.

You go up there, you look at the White House, it looks like the White House.

It is not going to look like the White House when this is over.

It is going to look like the White House, plus another White House next to it.

And it's going to be, I think, massively impressive, but like, I'm surprised there's not more conversation.

When's the last time you were in Washington, D.C.?

The inauguration.

So you would not believe the difference in the White House grounds.

The difference from, you know, when I went with George Bush, you could stand right at the front gate.

Right.

You can't do that anymore.

They've taken the park.

The park in the back is all gone.

The security,

everything, all of the trees, everything that has been done done to not see the White House except for that iconic front.

You know what I mean?

Everything else is not really,

you don't see it like you used to anymore.

You don't walk up to it anymore.

Yeah, I mean, the last I was in town for the inauguration.

Last time I actually walked by the White House has been a long time.

Oh,

you won't recognize it.

I mean,

just driving by and seeing it.

Now, you'll get pictures of it and everything else.

But walking by it, today you wouldn't recognize it.

It's, it's,

what has happened with security is so sad.

When I have the bell from the White House front desk, there used to be a little desk right in the front, right as you walk in.

There was a desk and a bell.

And I have it.

I think it is from Tyler's

administration.

And you'd walk in and you'd hit the bell and you'd say, I want to see the president.

And somebody would say, okay, all right, sit over there.

And you would wait.

You might wait all day, but you could walk in without an appointment and see the president of the United States.

Oh, my God.

You're not getting in within two blocks of the White House now.

It's sad.

It's sad what's happening.

Yeah, I mean, and for good, again, I wouldn't disagree with that either.

It's for good reason, security-wise.

Yes.

But I think of back, Glenn, the classic, I think what everyone thinks of when they think of the the White House is, of course, the scene from Superman 2 where

they show the White House and it's supposed to be, it's a motion picture, but they were too lazy to actually get video footage of the White House, so it's just a still, and you can tell because there's like,

you know, things that should be moving that aren't moving.

So is that the kind of thing?

I think that's Superman 2.

On Independence Day, they blew it up.

It could be.

It could be.

I mean, they only had a picture they had.

Independence Day is another good example.

Like, you have that that picture of what the White House looks like.

And, you know, I guess from certain angles, it's still going to look pretty much the same, right?

From the front, you're not going to notice it because it's kind of wrapped around the back.

But the back is pretty iconic, too.

It's not going to look like that anymore.

It's going to look, in some ways, a lot better and more impressive, but it is a major change.

When you say, hey, they're redoing the West Wing and putting a little ballroom in there, that's not what they're doing.

East.

Sorry, East Wing.

I hate Glenn.

I'm only saying it because I know how much he he hates you.

I hate you.

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bleeding us dry, isn't she?

Apparently, so.

Apparently so.

Just taking and taking and taking.

Well, I'm going to confront her about that on Saturday.

Anyway, so we will be up on the XM Serious Network with Megan next, and I will, of course, see you back here tomorrow for the Glenbeck Radio Program and online,

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