We're Already Fighting WWIII | 11/12/25

2h 10m
Millions of Texans were looking up at the sky to witness the northern lights. Glenn ponders why the northern lights are so captivating to people. Glenn takes calls from his listeners to gain a sense of how they're feeling amid all the political turmoil. Glenn offers advice on how to speak to your children about politics if they're straying from what you've instilled in them. World War 3 isn't on its way; we're already fighting it. Glenn warns of the dangers of universities and the biased education that comes with them. Glenn speaks with a listener who disagrees with Glenn on most issues. Is President Trump's plan to send a $2,000 tariff check to most Americans a good idea? Glenn reacts to Kim Kardashian's response to failing the bar exam, despite her team of psychics predicting she would. Glenn and Stu respond to a caller who doesn't like the way Trump presents himself.
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Speaker 1 Hello, America. Sometimes,

Speaker 1 sometimes I am,

Speaker 1 I just feel like I should listen to you. And today's one of those days.

Speaker 1 I have a lot to say on different topics, and we can get into whatever topic you want to talk about, and you can ask me about anything.

Speaker 1 But I want to hear from you, 888-727-BECK.

Speaker 1 What are you feeling? What is going on? What are the big stories that you feel we need to talk about?

Speaker 1 And any question on any stories, 888-727-BECK. We'll take some phone calls here in just a second.

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Speaker 1 If your dog could talk,

Speaker 1 he'd say thank you, I guess. I mean, I'd be freaked out if my dog was talking, but maybe that's just me.

Speaker 1 Last night, crawl into bed, and Tanya's scrolling through, and she's like, the Northern Lights, the Northern Lights. You could see him in Texas tonight.
She's fascinated by

Speaker 1 the Northern Lights. I guess I am too,

Speaker 1 to some degree. I mean, I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, and, you know, so I've seen the Northern Lights before, and they are remarkable and amazing and everything else.

Speaker 1 But I'm captivated by how many people,

Speaker 1 I mean, the whole world, it seems, stopped to look up yesterday. Phones came out.
People were calling each other. And, oh, my gosh,

Speaker 1 get outside, get outside.

Speaker 1 News calls it a very rare event, and it was, the Northern Lights.

Speaker 1 It's just this rippling band of color color on the horizon dancing like

Speaker 1 I don't know like God's painting the sky and we're watching it in real time. It's amazing

Speaker 1 But I wonder why it moves us so deeply

Speaker 1 and I don't think it's because most of us

Speaker 1 haven't seen it

Speaker 1 Is it possibly because we've forgotten how to look up? We don't do that anymore?

Speaker 1 When's the last time you sat around a campfire? And I mean a campfire, you know,

Speaker 1 you're a place where there's no light pollution.

Speaker 1 When was the last time you were sitting in a place where there was no light pollution?

Speaker 1 And you could actually see the stars? You know, when we're sitting around a campfire, we kind of look up and we

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 it always goes to the same place. My

Speaker 1 gosh, the universe is so big. We are so small.
What is

Speaker 1 why are we even here?

Speaker 1 What is the point of all of it? And if we don't look up, we don't really have that conversation. We just grow more and more arrogant.

Speaker 1 And lately, we live under this sky of

Speaker 1 noise and screens and deadlines and digital light.

Speaker 1 And maybe

Speaker 1 people were looking up yesterday because

Speaker 1 it's just suddenly you look up and you're like, oh my gosh, and you're reminded that we're still so small. The universe is so vast and alive.
And

Speaker 1 something inside of us wakes up for just a moment. It's a touchgrass moment, you know? But I think it's also more than that.

Speaker 1 Today, as I look at, you know, it's trending on X today,

Speaker 1 trending everywhere. And I think,

Speaker 1 wow, that's actually a really good sign.

Speaker 1 It's a reminder that wonder still exists outside the algorithm. And that's a good thing.
There's still things that man can't make, that AI can't code, and no influencer can sell.

Speaker 1 It's more than just lights in the sky.

Speaker 1 It's the universe whispering,

Speaker 1 remember me.

Speaker 1 And for a minute, we do.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to start the show in any other way other than just mentioning the magic that still is there, and we just

Speaker 1 don't usually look up to see it.

Speaker 1 Let me go to Dennis in Texas. Hello, Dennis.
Welcome to the Glen Beck program. The number is 888-727-BECK.
What's on your mind, Dennis?

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. No, I'm glad you took my call.
So I'm 35 years old.

Speaker 3 I've got two kids, a five-year-old and a three-year-old.

Speaker 3 And, you know, my wife and I decided

Speaker 3 very, very quickly after having kids that we were going to... go against the mold.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 You see, and I don't want to judge any other parents, but

Speaker 3 you see all these kids, you know, these kids have iPads. These kids have,

Speaker 3 you know, just mind-numbing devices. Even the toys, even the basic toddler toys are just mind-numbing these days.
And, you know, we decided

Speaker 3 as soon as we became parents, we didn't want to raise our kids like that. I mean, my son was screen-free for, oh, gosh, three years before we, you know, kind of gave in a little bit.
But,

Speaker 3 and, you know, just after watching Charlie Kirk a couple months ago, you know, and all that that happened, I just decided to take a bigger role as a father and as a husband, you know, as far as

Speaker 7 you know, raising these kids.

Speaker 3 And, you know, we've decided to homeschool. And, you know, obviously, Texas makes it a lot easier to do that kind of stuff.
I know it's not as easy in other states, but

Speaker 3 just trying to

Speaker 3 take that

Speaker 3 example forward. And, and, you know, I'm not, I'm not a leader of some super PAC.
I'm not a leader of some, you know, political,

Speaker 3 you know, group, but I am a leader of my own own family. And

Speaker 3 that's the best that I can do.

Speaker 3 And I just, I also wanted to say just a lot of that, sure, Charlie spurred that on, but I want you to know I've been listening to you since I was probably 16 years old in high school.

Speaker 3 I mean, you were the main reason I kind of discovered that your word is your bond, you know, and

Speaker 3 you are nothing without you and who you are and your word.

Speaker 1 And that

Speaker 1 dramatically changed my life.

Speaker 3 And I'm very grateful to you for that.

Speaker 1 And I just want you to. Thank you, Dennis.
Thank you. That's meaningful.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 Lori in New Mexico. Hello, Lori.

Speaker 8 Good morning, Glenn. Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 8 I had the honor of being in the room for your first EPAC speech when you wrote on that chalkboard way back in the day of progressivism.

Speaker 1 Remember when

Speaker 1 everybody in the front row walked out?

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Remember, I said there are progressives, there are progressives, and they're right here in this room.
And the whole front row, you know, Bill Crystal and everybody got up and walked out.

Speaker 1 It was fantastic.

Speaker 8 Glenn, I got up and I walked out of Newt Gingrich's speech.

Speaker 7 So I am right there with you, brother.

Speaker 10 I'm right there with you, brother.

Speaker 11 Wow. Anyway,

Speaker 8 I'm calling in today because,

Speaker 8 and like Dennis said, Charlie Kirk has changed the world for the better and forever.

Speaker 8 I have a 17-year-old son who is engaged to be married. He's getting married next year when he's 18, thank God.

Speaker 8 And he wants to go off and

Speaker 8 follow in Charlie Kirk's steps. I had the privilege and honor of taking both of my teenage boys to see Charlie Kirk at Legacy Church 30 days to the day before he was assassinated.

Speaker 8 And that changed their lives. They were doing nothing but talking to me about Charlie.
They were so interested about Charlie. I said, well, you guys know who Charlie is.

Speaker 8 And then now they're like, Mom, I I know who Charlie was.

Speaker 7 He was us.

Speaker 8 And it's just, but I'm scared about, you know, sending them out on the path. I'm never going to say no to my children.

Speaker 8 But, you know, we're walking into places where people just sitting at a table saying, prove me wrong, could get you killed. But this is what my son wants to do.

Speaker 8 And I'm freaking out about it a little bit.

Speaker 1 So, but you know,

Speaker 1 you should be proud.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should be proud of your son.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, look, we freak out about our kids all the time i freak out about my kids security i freak out about you know are they eating and i freak out all the time about my kids um and that's what we do as you know as parents and it you know i i don't know why i believed this but i just thought you know i don't know when they turn 18 you know you kind of like you've done your part and they're like on their own life and you're back to no no you're worried about them even more i just it just doesn't stop um

Speaker 1 uh but you know, if your son has, if you have instilled principles in your son

Speaker 1 and he has good role models, does he have a good role model of a dad or a husband?

Speaker 8 I'm divorced and his father, no, is actually a piece of crap.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Make sure he finds one. Make sure you help him find and point out, you know, what a good husband is really like, what a good,

Speaker 1 you know, what a good father is actually like. I mean, if he reads the Bible, I mean, I didn't really get this until, I don't know, you know, my third child.

Speaker 1 But reading the scriptures, and if you really understand God,

Speaker 1 you understand how to be a good dad because he's the best dad there is. He has consequences.
He's very clear on things. He gives you advice.
Don't do that. Do this.
Don't do that. You know what?

Speaker 1 That's going to cause all kinds of problems. You know, there's forgiveness.

Speaker 1 He's not vengeful.

Speaker 1 He's not full of wrath.

Speaker 1 He is full of

Speaker 1 clarity,

Speaker 1 but forgiveness.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 you know how to punish your kids if you know God. He doesn't.
He doesn't let you escape the punishment, otherwise you won't learn.

Speaker 1 But he does it with love. Anyway,

Speaker 1 I just make sure he has a good role model because if he doesn't, he's going to be,

Speaker 1 you know, especially guys, we spend our whole life

Speaker 1 chasing our dad.

Speaker 1 We want somebody, our dads, to say, good job.

Speaker 1 We want.

Speaker 1 That approval and if he doesn't have a dad in his life, where is he going to get it? And

Speaker 1 how is he expected to be the man of the house if he didn't have a good man in the house? He's got to find a good role model and learn everything he can from that role model.

Speaker 1 Hope that helps, Laurie.

Speaker 1 Thank you. You got it.
Thank you. God bless you.
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Speaker 1 Let me go to, let me take Steve in Ohio since we're talking about Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 He's on six. Hi, Steve.

Speaker 14 Hi, Glenn.

Speaker 6 It's an honor to speak to you.

Speaker 14 My rabbi once told me, he says it all the time, something good will come of this when there's something bad.

Speaker 15 And to make a joke, but it's true.

Speaker 14 9-11, because of 9-11, we got you on the air over a different person, radio personality nationally. Thank God for that.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 The reason why I'm calling,

Speaker 14 I'm a father of five, ages 32 to 8. Not that that matters.

Speaker 6 But my daughter in sixth grade came home from school the other day, rather upset.

Speaker 14 She was given an assignment for her honors writing class to

Speaker 14 research using an AI engine that the school provides through their online curriculum, that she's supposed to research a historical figure and then do a report, an essay.

Speaker 14 So she told me she was upset because when she came from school, she could not get any information on the person she wanted to write about. And I asked her, who was it?

Speaker 15 She said, Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 6 I was amazed that

Speaker 13 he had such an influence on her.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 14 I had her show me what she was getting and she typed in, I'd like to do a report on Charlie Kirk. And the engine kicked back, you may want to pick a person of more historical

Speaker 13 significance.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 I mean, a million people watched his funeral.

Speaker 5 We watched his funeral and we're Jewish.

Speaker 5 We're Orthodox people.

Speaker 1 We still watch his

Speaker 12 funeral because it was such a major thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's a turning point.

Speaker 15 Yeah, so I typed in some additional information into her

Speaker 14 query, and it pulled up some information for her to click on and go to some sources that she could take some notes on and cite them for her report.

Speaker 15 After she did the first one, she went back to the search.

Speaker 14 It was gone.

Speaker 14 The engine had cleared it out and said pick somebody else.

Speaker 1 What engine is this?

Speaker 14 I don't know what it's called, and she's at school, so she's got her Chromebook at school, but it was some sort of

Speaker 1 database.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I asked

Speaker 1 you to email your site and put it in there.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, I'm going to put you on hold. I want you to talk to one of the producers, and they'll give you a number, and you call back with the information, because I'd like to look into that.

Speaker 1 If it's a school thing, I mean, you know, look,

Speaker 1 AI engines,

Speaker 1 they are going to give you their own spin. You know, one of the things I've been watching on Grok, Grok is really getting really good and fair.

Speaker 1 I, you know, once in a while, I'll just Google, who is Glenn Beck? Is he an extremist? And, you know, I get all kinds of stuff back.

Speaker 1 Grok is the first one that says, well, some people might think that he's an extremist, but, you know, that depends.

Speaker 1 You know, he seems to be constitutional and more libertarian leaning. And yes, he said some controversial things.
I mean, it is the most balanced that I have seen.

Speaker 1 And that comes from, you know, Elon Musk saying, truth is the most important thing.

Speaker 1 And this is the scary thing about AI. If we don't pay attention and we don't stop things like that, that has to be stopped.
Who are they to

Speaker 1 do that in school and public education? I don't even, how did that even happen? Ohio, how did that happen?

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 you know, these AI engines are being built. And if you say diversity is number one, DEI is number one, fairness is number one,

Speaker 1 it will change history. Okay.
It changes history. And so when you are building an AI engine, you have to be extraordinarily careful.

Speaker 1 And that is why, you know, I respect Grock and Elon Musk, because the most important is the truth. The truth.
Always pursue the truth.

Speaker 1 Not today's truth, not what is true. And once you start putting filters on those things, then it's not a search engine.

Speaker 1 It's a propaganda machine. It's not a tool.

Speaker 1 It's using you. It's making you into the tool it or whoever programmed wants you to be.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I'd love to know what that search engine is, who is behind it.

Speaker 1 If that is a Ohio school thing, it should be stopped immediately.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 that's just so dangerous. So dangerous.

Speaker 1 Let me see.

Speaker 1 Let me go Steve in North Carolina. Hello, Steve.

Speaker 1 Good to talk to you.

Speaker 11 Thank you so much for making my call.

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Speaker 1 Well, I got to tell you,

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Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 11 I was wondering if you remember back in Barack Obama days, I think especially during his campaign, he was calling for that they need to create an army of their own. Do you recall that? Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 11 I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's Antifa.

Speaker 1 I believe you may be right on that,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 there is a large army out there, and they're in the schools, you know, at the universities that they don't necessarily have to be, you know, black clad, but if you want a real army that will do the tough things, Antifa is probably the one you would look to.

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From New Jersey, it's Brian. Hello, Brian.

Speaker 5 Hello.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 9 Yeah, thanks. Thanks for taking the calls today.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 4 I am worried that we are headed towards another

Speaker 4 French Revolution style because

Speaker 4 we have entire generations or actually people just not being heard by their representatives.

Speaker 4 And it's not just here, it's around the world.

Speaker 1 I actually had scheduled for this time, I'll just do it some other time, talking about what's happening in England. I think England is headed for a civil war.
And

Speaker 1 it's very close. I mean, you can't put 4,000 people, 4,000 people in jail or try them for

Speaker 1 hate crimes and speech crimes.

Speaker 1 You can't do that. In England, you can't do that in one year and expect people to just put up with it.
You can't, you know,

Speaker 1 America doesn't understand yet. The world doesn't understand.
We're in World War III. We're already in World War III.

Speaker 1 I don't know when it becomes a hot war or even a war that we on our side recognize, but we are in World War III. And

Speaker 1 foe is not China. That foe is militant Islam, period.
And, you know, when we have a situation to where people are,

Speaker 1 when the government is just like, no, it's not a problem. It's not a problem.
You know,

Speaker 1 you've got illegals all over. It's not a problem.
It's not a problem.

Speaker 1 It is a problem.

Speaker 1 Don't don't tell me what it what the problems are not

Speaker 1 because we're the ones

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 You're the experts who keep telling us, no, it's going to work out fine. And it doesn't work out fine.
And it just gets worse and worse. Oh, we can spend this money.

Speaker 1 No, it looks like we can't spend this money. Oh, we can afford this.
No, looks like we can't afford this. Oh, you know what? If we do this with Ukraine, it'll work out fine.
No, it didn't, did it?

Speaker 1 These endless wars, all of this stuff, don't tell me what the problem is.

Speaker 1 Listen to the people and

Speaker 1 start talking to the people. Honestly, this is the reason why I'm doing this today.

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Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 hear from you. I need to know what's on your mind.
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Speaker 1 focused and clear on what America is saying. Because I don't think, look,

Speaker 1 me taking phone calls is is not a true representation of anything, but it does give me a sense of

Speaker 1 where you are as an audience, maybe not as America, but as an audience. And there are lots of things that concern me, but I want to hear it from you.

Speaker 1 But I think you're right. We are headed for real, real trouble.

Speaker 1 All you need is

Speaker 1 real economic trouble. You start getting real, true economic trouble, 1930s kind of depression stuff, and we're in civil war.

Speaker 1 Dan, Oregon, welcome.

Speaker 5 Hello, Glenn. How are you?

Speaker 1 I'm great.

Speaker 11 Yeah, good.

Speaker 6 It's been a long time.

Speaker 16 I guess it's been over 10 years since I've had a chance to talk with you.

Speaker 11 If I was one of your first insiders, I'd been listening to you since you were in Florida.

Speaker 20 Wow.

Speaker 1 So it's been a long time.

Speaker 16 Yeah, it's been, and

Speaker 11 I can't say I've enjoyed all of it,

Speaker 20 but 99% of it has

Speaker 1 been great.

Speaker 18 I can't say that either. I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 11 you were talking on yesterday's show, reminiscing with Stu, about how you guys started. And I remember those old shows and, you know,

Speaker 11 the fusion of

Speaker 11 entertainment and enlightenment.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 5 there was a lot more entertainment.

Speaker 20 I remember I laughed a lot.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. I know.

Speaker 1 Those days are long dead.

Speaker 1 There's nothing to laugh about now.

Speaker 1 I'm afraid so. I really am.

Speaker 11 I'm 78.

Speaker 4 I still work 40 hours a week.

Speaker 11 I love my job. Good for you.

Speaker 20 Good.

Speaker 11 I've been married for 55 years. I have seven kids.

Speaker 20 I've got a daughter.

Speaker 11 I've got a daughter who's in her 40s, and she has severe TDS.

Speaker 11 We don't, I mean, we're not cutting each other off.

Speaker 11 She hasn't done that at all.

Speaker 16 We're We're still very close as a family.

Speaker 11 But she was down visiting the other day and got into a conversation with my wife. And I wasn't in the room,

Speaker 11 but Kathy said it was just like listening to one of those young people out on the street that was being interviewed by the news media.

Speaker 16 And

Speaker 11 she was in tears about it.

Speaker 5 My wife and my daughter both.

Speaker 11 And I mean, I love her, and I continue to support her. She's a single woman, not by choice.

Speaker 20 She just never found the right guy.

Speaker 11 And I really think that's part of the problem because she started reading back when Trump was first running, she started reading all of this stuff about him being misogynistic and all of that stuff.

Speaker 11 And it's just gotten worse.

Speaker 5 I'm at a loss.

Speaker 16 I really am.

Speaker 11 Because

Speaker 11 I see the country doing better.

Speaker 11 I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop, but I still feel like, at least right now,

Speaker 6 we're doing better as a whole.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 11 what do we do about our kids?

Speaker 4 She went to Portland State University.

Speaker 1 For the last

Speaker 1 two,

Speaker 11 well, yeah, for the last two years,

Speaker 11 she went to a... a little college in Idaho called RICS for the first two years and Utah State.

Speaker 11 And then she served a mission for our church in Brazil and came home.

Speaker 11 But then she went to Portland State University, and it just seems to have gone downhill from there.

Speaker 1 So, Dan,

Speaker 1 I think you are suffering from the same thing that almost all parents are suffering from.

Speaker 1 If you're not suffering from this, then I mean, God bless you, you know, get on your knees and thank God because you are a lucky, lucky family.

Speaker 1 Everybody has this in their family. I have it in my family.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you have to ask yourself, what is your goal?

Speaker 1 What is your goal with your daughter? Your real goal?

Speaker 5 My real goal

Speaker 11 is for us to be united eternally.

Speaker 11 That's my goal. That's my goal as a father has been to teach them that way, etc.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 how is that going to happen with politics?

Speaker 16 We just stay together as a family, regardless of what politics does.

Speaker 1 Exactly right. Exactly right.
I think we're in a place now where, as parents,

Speaker 1 you can ask your kids, but it has to be honest. It cannot be trying to win.
It has to be honest. How did you get there? I mean,

Speaker 1 I remember, you know, we've talked about this before, and you didn't believe that before. What's changed? Can you help me with that? I'd like to see what you were reading or what that was.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 just ask questions but they have to be honest they can't be you know because i'm setting you up because i want to change your mind um but keep a dialogue open with them um and just love them just love them

Speaker 1 because you if you don't if you do anything else you're going to drive them away and then oh i know then they're really lost yeah so when she

Speaker 11 was young when she was young i considered her one of the elect

Speaker 11 And the scripture says that in the last days, even the elect are going to be deceived. And that's what I'm seeing.
But everything you've said,

Speaker 11 I'm doing it that way because I know that.

Speaker 1 Senior Dan, you didn't need to. I appreciate it.
I'm so glad you called me, but you didn't need my advice. You already have it down.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to the Glenbeck Beck program. Let me go to Shelby in Texas.
Hello, Shelby.

Speaker 19 Hi, Glenn. My wife and I are longtime listeners.
And as you've said many times, elections have consequences.

Speaker 1 Yes. And

Speaker 4 we're lovers of American history, of the American story.

Speaker 19 And because of that, we had decided to move from Texas to Williamsburg, Virginia. and live in the historic triangle there with Yorktown and Jamestown and just wow.

Speaker 1 What a a great place.

Speaker 19 Yeah. We've been planning that for a little over a year, had our house on the market here in Texas and everything.

Speaker 19 And

Speaker 19 after the election

Speaker 19 at three in the morning, my wife and I were in bed with tears in our eyes saying,

Speaker 23 we just can't do this.

Speaker 19 We can't move from a state like Texas to a state that has openly said that they want to become the California of the East.

Speaker 19 And then thinking about what the founding fathers in Williamsburg would have thought of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I tell you,

Speaker 1 I hesitate to say this because everybody's decision is personal, but I think I would have made exactly the same decision.

Speaker 1 There's two states in the Union that I really,

Speaker 1 really trust, but both of them can change in a heartbeat, and that's Texas and Florida.

Speaker 1 You know, the other ones, you know, there'll be good ones here and there, but they're all kind of dicey. You know, there's only two states that I know of that are crystal clear on

Speaker 1 what rights are and what it means, and it's those two places. And, you know, if

Speaker 1 you know, if we lose in 2026, things are going to be difficult.

Speaker 1 If we lose in 2028, I just, I fear the backlash because they just think that Trump has just gone off the rails, that there are no legitimate investigations going on, that this is just all just vengeance.

Speaker 1 And it's not. These are legitimate investigations and they have to be solved.

Speaker 1 And when you elect people like they did in Virginia who say, you know, we can

Speaker 1 the only way that we can get people to change their mind is maybe, you know, have to kill them and watch their babies die in their arms because then they'll change their mind.

Speaker 1 I, you know, no, thank you.

Speaker 1 No, thank you. I think you made the right decision.
Polly, welcome.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I want to thank you for saving my life.

Speaker 1 Hi. How did I do that?

Speaker 12 Yeah, you had been talking about listening to the still small voice and doing what it says. My husband and I were on a cruise and we took an excursion snorkeling.

Speaker 12 We were out there in the water and all of a sudden something said, you need to go back to the boat.

Speaker 6 And I'm going, oh.

Speaker 12 And then I thought, he said, listen to that still small voice.

Speaker 12 Okay, Jay, it was my husband's name. I need to go back to the boat.
I'm cold. Okay.

Speaker 12 So I started heading back to the boat. And he stayed out there.
And then he turned around and could see me

Speaker 12 going back to the boat.

Speaker 12 And what we didn't know was that there was a storm coming in and the current was changing and getting worse and worse.

Speaker 12 Of course, I left early, so I didn't really have too much of a problem getting back on the boat. But my husband saw me and looked like I was, you know, not going as quick.

Speaker 12 And he starts coming after me. He's got these big fans and he can catch me like that.
And you're supposed to stay together when you're snorkeling.

Speaker 5 So he was keeping an eye on me, but he never caught me.

Speaker 12 The current was getting worse. He saw people on the boat, the cap, you know, some of the assistants, and they were getting into the water quickly to save people.

Speaker 12 They had to save every single person on that that had gotten off the boat.

Speaker 12 And my husband and I did not need, you know, we were okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I attributed

Speaker 5 to listen. Yes.

Speaker 1 No, you know, you should not attribute that listening to me. You did exactly what you're supposed to do.
You did exactly what you're supposed to do. And I'm glad to hear that story.

Speaker 1 Thank you for sharing that. But I will tell you that you won't survive if you won't survive what's coming because it's going to get harder and harder.
It's not, you know, now

Speaker 1 we've been asked to stand up and,

Speaker 1 you know, and fight and stand up for what's right. And it's been pretty clear, to me at least.
It's been pretty clear what's right.

Speaker 1 let's see let's have drag shows in third grade nope nope that's pretty clear uh let's take that uh 12 year old and cut off their breasts nope pretty clear it's not going to be as clear it's going to get really really fuzzy it already is and you've got to exercise that it welcome that obey it every single time and it's like a muscle it will get louder we all have it.

Speaker 1 We all have it. Whatever you want to call it,

Speaker 1 just obey it. Listen to it.
Do what it says. It will get louder and I'm telling you, it will save your life in the future and keep you on the right track.
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Speaker 1 Let me go to Paul in Pennsylvania. Hello, Paul.

Speaker 5 Hello, Glenn.

Speaker 25 I never would have called the show if I didn't have a dream about speaking to you last night on the phone. So I thought that was a prompting.

Speaker 26 I'm sure Stu will tell you that you're dreaming about Glenn.

Speaker 1 Things aren't going well.

Speaker 1 Wow. I mean, you got to raise your standards there.
My wife doesn't even dream about me. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Well, now here's a call.

Speaker 25 I was like, well, I better, I better jump on this.

Speaker 26 So what we talked about in the phone call was George Washington.

Speaker 25 I'm actually writing my PhD dissertation on George Washington, and I never had a mixture of excitement and heartbreak when I heard about George AI because I was so thrilled about it, but then I was heartbroken that I wasn't involved in it.

Speaker 13 And

Speaker 26 so, I don't know, I'm just calling about that because I don't know, when you're dreaming about Glenn Beck in the phone call, you know, I just jumped on it.

Speaker 5 So,

Speaker 1 well, okay, so Paul, you're getting your PhD in history and specifically with George Washington, or just that's your final paper?

Speaker 25 My focus is early American history. My dissertation is on George Washington.

Speaker 1 That is fabulous. And what did you come away thinking about George Washington, learning about George Washington?

Speaker 1 Well, I grew up in Pittsburgh, so Washington is all over the Pittsburgh area because of the French and Indian War.

Speaker 25 And you kind of wonder how much of it is legend and how much of it is true. And then the more you look into it, you realize these things weren't written about him after or during the revolution to

Speaker 5 pump him up.

Speaker 26 These things actually were written minutes or weeks after it happened, where pastors, like Samuel Davies is writing after the Battle of Mongahela, this man might be being saved for our future purpose.

Speaker 25 And that's stuff that's happening 20 years before the revolution.

Speaker 1 The more you know,

Speaker 10 the more awesome.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 Isn't it amazing?

Speaker 1 You look at George Washington, and

Speaker 1 I can't believe we lie about his teeth,

Speaker 1 we lie about the cherry tree, when he is the most honest,

Speaker 1 forthright, and

Speaker 1 heroic guy, I think, in all of American history. I mean, he is one of a kind, and we lie about him, and we don't talk about all the things that happened that are absolutely real and just confounding

Speaker 23 The miraculous is a correct term.

Speaker 13 It's shocking when you think of all of the incidents where his life, I mean, I know you had Celine Zidon a couple months ago, and she was talking about the incident in Butler where he was shot at when he was 21 years old.

Speaker 13 A bullet flies in between him and a guide inches away.

Speaker 25 I mean,

Speaker 10 it's not just American history that's altered if he dies before the war.

Speaker 6 World history is altered.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 So what is the worst thing you could find about George Washington? I could only find that his mother said that he ate a lot of ice cream and it was too extravagant.

Speaker 16 His mother's not a good judge of character.

Speaker 26 I mean, she's not the best.

Speaker 1 Not at all. No.
Kind of went through life. You know, the more you learn about her, the more I think George Washington's mom

Speaker 1 probably sounded a little like that. You know what I mean? She's just

Speaker 1 through the century. She's not a likable person.

Speaker 13 Yeah, it's probably why he went on an adventure so early, just to get out of the house.

Speaker 25 She kind of chased him out.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 What's the worst thing you learned about him?

Speaker 13 I don't know.

Speaker 23 It's hard to find the dark when the light is so bright with him.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 25 are you aware that one of the reasons that he

Speaker 25 ended slavery, I mean, ended his own personal slavery was a dream that he had.

Speaker 1 That he was being

Speaker 5 his wife in his dream, and

Speaker 26 he told told her, I'm rewriting the will.

Speaker 25 And that's when he's on his deathbed. He brings out the two wills, and he brings out the new will that he wrote that

Speaker 25 frees the slaves after he had this dream.

Speaker 1 Where did you get what source is that?

Speaker 13 That is in a book called Imperfect God.

Speaker 1 I have to tell you, have you seen original sources on it? I mean,

Speaker 1 is it quoting where it's coming from?

Speaker 13 Yeah, it does quote. It does quote where it's out.

Speaker 25 I mean, I have the book on my desk here, but I don't know where it's from.

Speaker 1 So, Paul, you know, I would really love to get your information,

Speaker 1 put him on hold, and get his information, and he should go over to.

Speaker 1 I mean, he had a dream. I mean, we should at least pursue this to see if there's anything there.
Seeing that we're building George AI, and that's what you're all about.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 it is

Speaker 1 if you can get through college and you want to to learn history,

Speaker 1 I don't know how, you know, I don't know how Paul did it and made it

Speaker 1 with his brain, not just jello, you know?

Speaker 1 Because when you go, this is the difference between,

Speaker 1 look, George AI is not going to be, it's not going to be complete for a long time. It has, there's just too much.
in there,

Speaker 1 but it is going to be a

Speaker 1 doorway into learning about the founders in their own words with the founding documents.

Speaker 1 When you go to a university or you learn from history in class,

Speaker 1 you're trained to quote the interpreters of history, not understand the originators.

Speaker 1 Instead of reading Madison, you're standing there and you're sitting there and you're listening to a teacher or a professor trying to explain what Madison really meant.

Speaker 1 Well, Well, why don't I just go to Madison?

Speaker 1 I don't want the modern context. I want it in his writings.
Can you imagine 100 years from now,

Speaker 1 Trump in the history books?

Speaker 1 How do you think that guy's going to be remembered with historians?

Speaker 1 How are they going to gauge? We can't even... Half the country doesn't even know who he is.
Half the country, and they're watching him in real time.

Speaker 1 What's the difference? They're not actually watching or listening. They're listening to the interpreters.

Speaker 1 If you actually listen to him, if you actually watch him,

Speaker 1 you learn that's a completely different guy. There's a show going on,

Speaker 1 and there's things that he does that I don't necessarily like, but that's not who he is. That's not what he's doing.

Speaker 1 That's why first sources are so important.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 you're not learning the interpretation.

Speaker 1 When you read about Washington and the farewell address and Lincoln's second inaugural,

Speaker 1 you see men who believed that truth existed outside of them, moral and divine, and it was, it was outside of them.

Speaker 1 Universities are also teaching that, you know,

Speaker 1 I don't know. Truth is in you.
It's your truth. No, no.

Speaker 1 Real truth is outside of me.

Speaker 1 I don't know how Paul made it through without hating America.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 Because usually you're taught that the... the founders were hypocrites and

Speaker 1 you're not reading the original sources when you read the Federalist Papers, when you actually read the words of Frederick Douglass, not the interpretation of Frederick Douglass, but you read the words of

Speaker 1 Frederick Douglass, you see a guy who's really struggling, trying to figure it out. Not a perfect guy.
Same with Lincoln, not perfect. Same with the founders, not perfect.
They're really struggling.

Speaker 1 And that's not even understood, I don't think, in today's world. The struggle for truth, the struggle for thinking, you're not taught to critically think anymore.

Speaker 1 You know, you're conform, conform, conform. Write this down, kids.
It'll be on the test.

Speaker 1 Parroting is what they want.

Speaker 1 You decide to go your own way. You decide to dissent and go.
No, I don't think that's what it meant.

Speaker 1 Good luck in that grade.

Speaker 1 And I think also universities,

Speaker 1 when you're learning history,

Speaker 1 I mean, look, if you want to be a teacher, you got to go to university.

Speaker 1 You got to get the ticket.

Speaker 1 But boy, I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you do it.
Because one of the things that happens is they strip you of awe.

Speaker 1 They strip you of the awe. He still had the awe of George Washington.

Speaker 1 He still was holding on to, no, you don't have any idea. He's on the battlefield of Butler, Pennsylvania, and bullets are whizzing by him.

Speaker 1 He walks off the battlefield and he's got holes in his coat, but he's fine. There's an awe to that.
How did that happen? How can this guy ride? He's like 6'4.

Speaker 1 The average man is 5'6. He's 6'4.

Speaker 1 And he, so he's a giant of a man, and he's riding these big white stallions, and he's going right up to the front, and he's never wounded. He's never hit.

Speaker 1 People say over and over again, I had him in my sights. I had him dead to rights.
I pull the trigger. He doesn't fall.
It misses him.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's some awe to that.

Speaker 1 And it's for you to figure out.

Speaker 1 These are the kinds of things I hope we are going to be teaching

Speaker 1 through

Speaker 1 my AI project.

Speaker 1 The torch debuts in January, and I have used it. It's still in beta testing.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 we have,

Speaker 1 I'm a little nervous. I'm a little nervous because we're building something that nobody has built before.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I just want it to be just right for you. I want you to be able to, you know, one of the first things, I'm going to give you an address sometime, maybe today,

Speaker 1 probably tomorrow. I'll give you an address where you can write your questions.
You would say, Glenn, this is what I want to learn from the torch.

Speaker 1 These are the questions I would have for the founders.

Speaker 1 I really want to understand civics, or I need to learn the Bill of Rights. And, you know, how did that happen? Whatever it is you want to learn about, especially founding, the founding of the country.

Speaker 1 And then anything you want to learn about in the news, I'm going to give you an address tomorrow.

Speaker 1 And I want you to write to me and tell me so we can make sure that we have these things really ready for you in January. Because I think we, you know, the pressure is on to get moving here.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to the Glen Beck program. Let's go to Joe in Florida.
Hello, Joe.

Speaker 1 Joe, are you there?

Speaker 1 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Hi.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 21 I was going to

Speaker 6 speak about AI

Speaker 6 and

Speaker 6 what role

Speaker 6 that

Speaker 6 we want it to

Speaker 6 to play in our in our lives.

Speaker 5 Do we want it running power plants?

Speaker 21 Do we want it running water plants?

Speaker 9 Do we want it teaching kids?

Speaker 21 I don't think that we're that we're really

Speaker 21 thinking about that. But

Speaker 26 to be honest, Glenn,

Speaker 11 I feel compelled to take this opportunity to

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Speaker 21 I've been listening to you since 2007.

Speaker 19 Glenn, you are my personal hero.

Speaker 19 I mean that from the bottom of my soul.

Speaker 19 And

Speaker 19 something's telling me

Speaker 19 to tell you that

Speaker 21 I think it's back in 2008, maybe 2007,

Speaker 21 when you first started

Speaker 11 speaking about God.

Speaker 21 I think that

Speaker 21 you really hesitated with that because it was very bold at that time.

Speaker 21 You absolutely made the right call

Speaker 23 because

Speaker 6 I don't have

Speaker 21 any real father figures.

Speaker 21 And listening

Speaker 11 to you has truly made me not only

Speaker 11 a more balanced person,

Speaker 21 it's made me a better man and a much better

Speaker 21 Christian.

Speaker 21 So I can't thank you

Speaker 21 enough for that.

Speaker 21 And the monologue that you did yesterday when you were talking

Speaker 21 about fear.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 I mean,

Speaker 21 those words just hit me

Speaker 21 so so square because I've got two two dogs who are struggling right now

Speaker 21 there are so many things going on in my in my in my life that that that I just

Speaker 21 I'm I'm just struggling every day you know just to be the be the best husband be the best father be the best person that I can and man you know that that that really helped me out so um thank you for that.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Joe,

Speaker 1 I have to tell you, when you said I decided to go another way, usually I don't tolerate that because

Speaker 1 you have to be honest when you get on. But I let it go because I thought, no, just hear what he said.
And

Speaker 1 it didn't go where I thought it was going to go.

Speaker 1 So it's a relief. Thank you.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. That's all right.

Speaker 1 But thank you for those really kind, kind words. They mean an awful, an awful lot to me.

Speaker 1 Just keep doing what you're doing. You know,

Speaker 1 we're all afraid of something every day. Man, I come in for the first time.
I told Stu this

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Speaker 1 And I hate it. I hate that feeling.
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Speaker 1 But, you know, we just keep doing what we're doing because that's the time we live in. And we're going to make it.
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Speaker 1 I thought Stu was going to say something just

Speaker 1 to denigrate everything I just said.

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Speaker 18 I'll come up with a new insult here for you with the next call.

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Speaker 18 I will say it was nice to have a caller who

Speaker 18 changed what he was going to say on the air and turned it into something nice. I don't think that's ever happened that entire time.

Speaker 1 I don't think so either. When he said, I'm going to turn it to something else, I'm like, oh my gosh.

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Hello, Anthony. Welcome.

Speaker 6 Hey, Glenn.

Speaker 7 First off, I just wanted to say I'm a Democrat, and I've been listening for almost 10 years, if you can believe that.

Speaker 1 Wow. Good for you.
Yeah. You're not alone.
Wait, wait, wait. How many days do you?

Speaker 1 I mean, you're into

Speaker 1 SNM. I don't know.
I mean, how many days do you just shake your head and go, my God, I can't, what am I doing this for?

Speaker 7 It's every day, Garden. Every day, I think.

Speaker 1 It's every day. Okay.

Speaker 1 Do we agree on anything?

Speaker 7 We agree on a few things. I'm not going to say that it's complete disagreement, but a lot of times I end up pulling my hair.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Is there a

Speaker 1 just one more question? I'm sorry. I know you're the one calling in, but I have so many questions for you.

Speaker 1 Why do you listen? Glutton for punishment?

Speaker 1 Or what? Why?

Speaker 7 If I'm being completely honest, I don't really have many conservatives in my life that I can talk to about stuff like this. So I really like to get that perspective from you and just kind of see what

Speaker 1 I was thinking. That's great.
That is great.

Speaker 7 The only problem is I can't usually get answers to questions that I want. I'll be screaming at the radio thinking like, oh, but what about this?

Speaker 12 What about that?

Speaker 1 All right, well, let's go for it. You know, the other option was, and I thought it was probably a better, you know, a more likely option.
Maybe you were a paraplegic and somebody had left the radio on

Speaker 1 that really did not like you, and you're like in the room going, I can't change the dial. Anyway, go ahead, Anthony.
Right.

Speaker 7 So what I wanted to talk about was your take on the Jimmy Kimmel suspension way back when.

Speaker 7 Honestly, I don't think you really came down hard enough on Trump for that. Because, I mean, you had the SEC chair who came out and basically threatened ABC on national television.

Speaker 7 And I feel like the next day, I think, if I remember correctly, you came out and said, well, Kimmel had low ratings. ABC is wanting to get rid of him for a while.

Speaker 7 And I feel like that kind of flies in the face of what you've been saying a lot about when you say that you, you know, you can disagree with someone, but you defend their right to say what they believe.

Speaker 1 So I just feel like

Speaker 7 Trump, we have a lot of people looking the other way.

Speaker 1 Okay, really good, fair.

Speaker 1 And maybe I didn't make a big enough deal out of it, but my opinion was always

Speaker 1 we don't cancel people. I don't want to cancel people.
And Stu, I remember Stu and I talking about

Speaker 1 this is beyond what the FCC, because I know the FCC,

Speaker 1 and I happen to know that commissioner.

Speaker 1 And I think he's very, very wise. I didn't think this was the right move.

Speaker 1 As somebody who is regulated by the FCC, I don't want them to be able to do that to me. So why would I want them to do that to Jimmy Kimmel?

Speaker 1 So I am absolutely against it, and I do stand up for people when they lose their jobs.

Speaker 1 I didn't think this was going to last.

Speaker 1 But when it comes to Jimmy Kimmel,

Speaker 1 ABC does have a right to fire people for low ratings.

Speaker 1 And I think this probably came from the frustration of

Speaker 1 what's his name of the dancing syringes Colbert.

Speaker 1 He knows he's lying about all of that.

Speaker 1 He's low ratings, no low ratings. He was so far over budget, they were hemorrhaging tens of millions of dollars on that show every year.

Speaker 1 And you can only, as a network, you can only hemorrhage money for so long. And you're not turning it around, you're going to get fired.
And that's what that was all about.

Speaker 1 So I may have not come out as strongly as I should have. And I'm glad you called me on that, Anthony.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's just one of those things.

Speaker 7 I just feel like I would like it if more conservatives were willing to come out as strongly against other conservatives as they would if it was a Democrat doing it, you know, because I know you'd be screaming about this if Biden's SEC chair had done that.

Speaker 1 Well, they did.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I had three White House

Speaker 1 television saying that.

Speaker 1 I had three White House

Speaker 1 executives or advisors in the White House running campaigns to get me thrown off the air. So, I mean, I've lived it, and so I do understand it.

Speaker 6 Well,

Speaker 7 I can't say much to that, but what I can say is I just, I've never, I personally have never seen it before where someone can go on national television, issue a blatant threat, make it so obvious, and then just have everyone else just kind of say, oh, well, you know, he had low ratings, so that's what that was about.

Speaker 1 It just

Speaker 1 exactly. I hope Anthony, I hope I've

Speaker 18 not to rehash the entire Kimmel thing, though. I think it's a little bit overstating it, honestly, when it came to what the threat was.
I mean, he was in the middle of an interview.

Speaker 18 He was asked a question. He was talking about this.

Speaker 18 And just like, you know, a lot of officials do, he was talking about a story. And I didn't take it as this is going to happen to you tomorrow.
We're going to come after you.

Speaker 18 I also don't think he had the power to do it anyway. I mean, I think there was a lot of talk, and

Speaker 18 I will say that I am sympathetic to the case that at times the Trump administration talks more than they should about these things

Speaker 18 in various different topics, a lot of times claiming powers that they don't have in interviews

Speaker 18 when, you know,

Speaker 18 these aren't even things that could happen, but there's a lot of big talking going on at times. And I don't like that particular thing.

Speaker 1 You know, it's funny, Mr. Anthony, you'd be, I think you'd be probably surprised at how many times we have said on and off the air,

Speaker 1 this is getting close to constitutional problems. And if it goes any farther, you know, we're going to be on the other side.
I mean,

Speaker 1 we watch this very carefully, very carefully. And we're, I mean, we're debating some things right now,

Speaker 1 you know, that I don't know how to make sense of, but I don't have to make sense of it yet because it hasn't happened. But if it does happen, then I got to look at it and go, okay,

Speaker 1 it's unconstitutional. I can't stand there.
I can't do it.

Speaker 1 We really try, really hard, but you don't hear that. And, you know, I don't expect you to take my word for it.

Speaker 7 No, but I do believe that I do believe that that is, you know, I do believe that you guys would hold it accountable if you felt that it would cross the Constitution.

Speaker 7 I'm just kind of, for me, I I guess I'm just waiting to see it.

Speaker 7 And I don't know if we'll ever come to that point where Trump will actually blatantly do something that flies in the face of the Constitution.

Speaker 7 But with things like him tweeting out, you know, if I save the country, I don't break laws, stuff like that.

Speaker 1 No, we don't agree with that. Yeah, definitely.
And you know what, Anthony? You know, there might be something, there might be something here that we disagree on that might be part of the problem.

Speaker 1 I took Donald Trump's words literally for a long time. And that's why I was against Donald Trump at the beginning.
And then I realized, oh, he doesn't, that's a show.

Speaker 1 And I hadn't seen that before in a president. And I'm not saying that's good or bad.
I don't personally like the show part of it.

Speaker 1 But that's a show.

Speaker 1 You take him,

Speaker 1 you don't take him. literally.
You do take him seriously.

Speaker 1 And he says a a lot of stuff that you're like, all right, he's not going to do that.

Speaker 1 And you can take it to the extremes. Hey, little rocket man, you know, may have to vaporize North Korea.
He's not going to do that. He's not going to do that.

Speaker 1 I don't like that he said that, but I don't get

Speaker 1 into a panic because he's not going to do that.

Speaker 1 And so you have to separate what he says from what he actually does. So sometimes we don't comment on what he says because I look for what he's doing instead.
Does that make sense to you?

Speaker 7 I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 7 I just, I guess what I'd say to that is I would just like it if we had a president who didn't make me have to try to parse through what he's saying when he says something that blatant.

Speaker 1 Oh, you know what? I have to tell you, so would I, but I live in the world that is

Speaker 1 the world that it is, not the world that I wish it was.

Speaker 17 Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 1 Anthony, call me anytime.

Speaker 1 I really appreciate your phone call. And if you hear something, you just call.
And I'll make sure the phone screener puts you to the top of the list because I really would like to hear the other side.

Speaker 18 From someone rational.

Speaker 18 Like, I love having conversations with people on the other side that's actually rational and calm. And so we do appreciate you listening, Anthony.
That's awesome, man. Thanks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Big time.
Thank you so much, Anthony. Appreciate it.
You got it. All right.
Now, can we dash him?

Speaker 18 He's off the air.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can you believe these liberals?

Speaker 1 That pinko bedwedding.

Speaker 1 What a moron.

Speaker 1 Those are my favorite calls.

Speaker 18 I like those too.

Speaker 1 When people can, I mean, and don't, don't you kind of starve for that? Wouldn't you love to have that conversation with family members that

Speaker 1 where you don't agree? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 18 the points he brings up, like we've talked about this, and we have talked about it on the air. Of course, there are definite issues that we have with Trump.

Speaker 18 You know, I've talked many times about the tariff powers I don't think he has, and I think, you know, that that's going to be a

Speaker 1 lot of him on COVID.

Speaker 18 Yeah, we've had with some of the COVID stuff. You know, and I will say, like,

Speaker 18 I have a disconnect a little bit internally that it's probably something that he's noticing, and maybe others are as well, where like stuff like when the president comes out and goes after a giant media company editing his interviews, like I, the BBC one that has just come out was blatantly terrible.

Speaker 18 And that one really did feel defamatory. Some of them are just like things that Donald Trump doesn't like.
And some of it makes me feel kind of good inside, emotionally.

Speaker 18 But I also really am hesitant to be excited about a president going after individual media companies in a country like ours.

Speaker 18 Number one, where I'm doing a show, and I can see

Speaker 18 we've done the show during Democratic presidents and had these pressures that we didn't like. But also in a country with the First Amendment,

Speaker 18 it's a risky road. And I don't think he's crossed lines yet, Glenn.
I don't know if you do, but

Speaker 18 I am concerned about it at times.

Speaker 1 I didn't like the tariffs on Canada

Speaker 1 for playing Ronald Reagan.

Speaker 1 What is that?

Speaker 18 I don't even know if those actually went into effect.

Speaker 18 He said he was going to do them. I don't even know if they went into effect.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 you know, if you look at the debate when we were going on the, what is it, the Alien and Sedition Act with James Madison, they, I mean, they went round after round after round.

Speaker 1 And some of the most compelling arguments were,

Speaker 1 you can lie.

Speaker 1 You can lie about government officials. Okay.

Speaker 1 You can. You can lie about them.
And when I first read that, I'm like, wow, why would what?

Speaker 1 But you look at their reasoning in the argument. They're like, the government cannot be the arbiter of truth.
It cannot be.

Speaker 1 So if you lie about somebody outside of the government, if you lie about an individual and you're smearing them, but if you're lying about the government,

Speaker 1 you cannot put the government as the arbiter of truth because they have too much power. And so

Speaker 1 don't like the fact that the government can come after you.

Speaker 1 Donald Trump, as an individual, you know, if you're saying things that are absolute lies about me, that BBC thing was just,

Speaker 1 somebody

Speaker 1 passed. Yeah, it was so bad, so egregious.

Speaker 18 Also, in a country that doesn't have a First Amendment and those protections, which is

Speaker 18 maybe these companies could consider pushing for one in their nations because, you know, when you have those, it's a lot easier to sue in that way over a public figure there.

Speaker 1 And I think, you know, if you're a public figure, you have a right to sue. I do not want the government going in and saying you can't do Jimmy Kimmel, FCC, you have to get off.

Speaker 1 There's no space for that. No space for that.
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Speaker 1 But when it comes to, hey, you're saying this and it's a lie and you're defaming me,

Speaker 1 I think you should be able to sue. I do.
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Speaker 18 I guess as soon as everybody gets into town, which is a bit of a challenge considering the

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Speaker 18 So in theory, when they get into town, they're going to vote for it and it's expected to pass relatively easily because they probably will get some Democrat votes on top of the majority they have.

Speaker 18 So in theory, that will get us back to the happy days of incredibly high spending and a bunch of unessential employees back at work.

Speaker 1 I'm going to love that. Gonna love that.
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Speaker 1 just as we get back from the holidays, they'll shut it down again.

Speaker 18 Yeah, it's January 30th, I believe it's going to be extended too.

Speaker 18 The two adjustments that have been made,

Speaker 18 if you haven't followed the back and forth on this, really the only stuff that Democrats quote-unquote got out of this arrangement was to stop any firings that could happen with a future shutdown and also to extend snap benefits so they would not be part of the discussion either until I believe September.

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Speaker 1 Hello, Glenn, how are you?

Speaker 1 Good. There's a couple of stories that I I think are worth talking about.

Speaker 1 The tariff checks, which I don't really like.

Speaker 1 We can talk about that. Also, there's a new update on the Jeffrey Epstein thing.

Speaker 1 I don't know what it means.

Speaker 18 Which one do you, where do you want to start? Let me ask you a couple of questions.

Speaker 18 Which one do you like more, the $2,000 stimulus check or the 50-year-old mortgage or 50-year mortgage idea? Which one is, if you had to pick one, which one would you pick?

Speaker 18 If I had to pick one, I would pick the thousand dollar you know really tariff check yeah i don't think i i think i'd pick the 50 year mortgage i mean i to me the 50 year mortgage should be available if some bank wants to offer it and it's up to a private i don't know what the government has to do with any of this but if the if if if if a bank wants to say hey 50 year mortgage here you go take that risk and trust someone's going to pay you back for 50 years okay

Speaker 1 i want the money what

Speaker 1 i want the money you want the money well i got news for you glenn you're not going to be in the uh in the category that receives it.

Speaker 1 I'll never get it.

Speaker 18 You're not paying for it, not receiving it.

Speaker 18 But yeah, no,

Speaker 18 neither one of those two stories are my favorites.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't want to be writing checks. I mean, you know, I don't want to be, you know, the money is never really the money.

Speaker 1 It's never, as long as we have access, you know, we got, we got, you know, whatever he says, $3 billion. Great.
Can we apply that directly to the debt? How about that one?

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 he knows he's in trouble. He knows he's in trouble.
He can't turn the economy around as quickly as he did the last time. It's not 2016 anymore.

Speaker 1 And so, you know, everybody was expecting and voting for him to turn things around. And the price of gas has gone down.
The price of eggs have gone down.

Speaker 1 But you're still, you know, now we're at 3% inflation.

Speaker 1 Well, okay, what about going the other direction, getting the prices down to where they were, you know, in 2020? And gas has done that, but very few other things have done that.

Speaker 18 Yeah, and I think, you know, understandably, it's a central part of his platform. The tariffs have been a big focus.
He's talked a lot about it.

Speaker 18 It's also one of those things that, you know, there's a lot of disagreement on. So I think that's where he's drawn, right? Like, that's him.
He likes being in the fight.

Speaker 18 He likes being out there talking about these things.

Speaker 18 So that I think has,

Speaker 18 because it's not a particularly popular issue, it has made his economic approval

Speaker 18 ratings be more difficult, I think. And I think people are feeling

Speaker 18 some of the stuff being echoes from previous administration.

Speaker 18 With the spending and everything else, that's still the major cause of price increases, not tariffs as of yet. But some of that isn't helpful as well.
And you try to throw in $2,000 at people.

Speaker 18 Again, I don't know that that's even going to pass.

Speaker 18 He can't just do it.

Speaker 18 That's not something that he can just do on his own. He can't just hand out thousands of dollars in checks, I don't think.
I've seen a good constitutional justification for that.

Speaker 18 So I don't think that's what he's even planning. I'm sure he's planning on trying to get something passed to do that if that comes up.
But you're right. We don't have the money.

Speaker 18 You know, I don't, I am not a person who wants to solve our debt problems with increased quote-unquote revenues to government. I don't think that's the correct way to do it.

Speaker 18 But if you have those revenues, if just things are going great and you get more money in, you're right.

Speaker 18 I'd rather have that dished out toward the debt, at least as long as there's a long-term plan to address it.

Speaker 18 I mean, I don't know that paying, you know, 1% or 2% of our debt off is even better than honestly just dishing out a bunch of money to people.

Speaker 18 But I will say, it is what we would refer to as a, you think it's a, there's wealth. It is going from one place to another, and we are redistributing it.
That is what is occurring here.

Speaker 18 And it used to be something we had a big problem with.

Speaker 18 It's just, again, something he threw out. Maybe it's not even a hardcore proposal, but we should be concerned about going down that path long term.

Speaker 1 What is he going to do? Honestly, what can he do?

Speaker 18 Well, we talked about this a little bit yesterday, and one thing we didn't get a chance to get to that I would love to get your thoughts on is I think this is one of the reasons he's really embraced going all in on AI.

Speaker 18 I think he sees this and the opportunity of leading the world in AI as a way to grow the economy out of the problems that we're facing here.

Speaker 1 And that's usually his approach. You think that's part of it? It's always his approach.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that's 100% what it is. He's been convinced that this is the future.
And

Speaker 1 if that works and we're the leader in it, then we will grow our way out because of the taxes and the jobs and everything else. And we could dwarf

Speaker 1 through a really robust economy. We could grow and grow and grow to where even just this debt, it doesn't seem so bad.
That's absolutely his plan, but that's a long way away.

Speaker 1 And, you know, getting there. Did you see the story in Texas about the

Speaker 1 server farm that's all built, ready to go? They're still working on the power plant, but they have all the permits and they're actually building the power plant. Did Did you see that? No.

Speaker 1 In Texas, they don't have anybody taking it yet.

Speaker 18 What do you mean? They say they built a server farm with no company attached to it.

Speaker 1 No company attached to it. Texas is, and it's not a Texas thing.
It's, you know, a bunch of, you know, billionaire Texans. They're like, we'll build you a server farm.

Speaker 1 And so they're building these buildings with power plants because they want all of them to be in Texas. And

Speaker 1 they're saying, don't panic, but you would think that there would have been takers for that immediately.

Speaker 1 And, you know, it's been offered and nobody has snapped it up yet. Hmm.
I wonder what concerns me a bit.

Speaker 18 Obviously, there's a lot of economic considerations as to, you know, you've got to figure out what the cost is and there's a lot to consider there. But, you know, it's interesting.

Speaker 18 I mean, there is a theory that this is really going to be a bubble and we're going to see a situation like we did in 2000 where the internet kind of blew up on everybody.

Speaker 18 And it's not that ai the internet never came right it's certainly a big part of our lives maybe all of your life uh for if you happen to be under the age of 30 or so uh but it the internet came it did change the world it but it took a while and we had a collapse before it really did what everyone was promising it was going to do

Speaker 1 so i told you yesterday i'm reading um

Speaker 1 1929 the new book 1929 it is fabulous you got to listen to it or read it it's just fabulous.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 they're describing what the exuberance was like in 1929 and how, you know, it's never going to go down. It's never going to go down.
Do you know? I mean, look at all of the things on the horizon.

Speaker 1 Look at all the new technology that is happening. Look at the people that are moving in.
And, you know, we've got so many cars and so many refrigerators to sell and everything is changing.

Speaker 1 And it's just up, up, up, up, up, up, up. And everybody bought into it.
I mean, it was I knew the the run-up to the crash of 29 was bad with exuberance. I had no idea it was this bad.
I mean

Speaker 1 they were openly calling it

Speaker 1 stock gambling.

Speaker 1 People were taking money borrowing money and then they would invest it in a company, but they would watch it as it would go during the day and they would make several trades

Speaker 1 in a week because

Speaker 1 I hear this one's hot and we're going to gain a little here and then we'll pull it out and then we'll put money over here. I mean, it was gambling.
It literally was gambling.

Speaker 1 And it was just consuming everybody. And the real problem is, is the banks decided that they would give loans for playing the stock market.
And so all of these banks are just so over leveraged.

Speaker 1 And that's kind of what I feel like here. These,

Speaker 1 you know, we're really excited about you know the future of ai some of us are also equally as terrified um but

Speaker 1 it is going to happen i just don't know how it's going to happen and when it's going to happen um and there's just seems to be so much money sloshing around in the system and we don't even have the power units.

Speaker 1 You see, there's another server farm that has just been built and it's sitting empty and it's been sitting empty for a while because it's in California.

Speaker 1 A, nobody wants to build a server farm in California. B,

Speaker 1 they didn't connect it to its own power plant. And so California, you can't put a California.

Speaker 1 Really? You're going to suck all that energy when you already have brownouts and then the server farm is just going to go down every once in a while? That's completely unworkable.

Speaker 18 Let me just interrupt real quick for a quick message from Gavin Newsom 2028

Speaker 18 because

Speaker 1 there's never been a man more cleverly running for president.

Speaker 18 And also, you know, this is a guy. We need people to be aware of what it's like in California and what they're dealing with there.
You're right.

Speaker 18 It would be insane to build these types of facilities there, knowing what California will likely do to you. And, you know, you're right.
I think we both have the same concerns on AI.

Speaker 18 There's a lot of bad that comes along with it.

Speaker 18 But, you know, there is a lot of promise as well. And there probably will be really good developments that come out of it.

Speaker 18 And it probably will take over the world and do all the major, you know, amazing things that they say it's going to do, along with a lot of really terrible ones, just like the iPhone.

Speaker 18 But,

Speaker 18 you know,

Speaker 18 the path there is not, it's not, it's not linear. It's not this wonderful upswing.
Something's going to happen. And you look at the way our economy is structured right there.

Speaker 18 Wow, the bet is big on AI. I mean, it's really the only bet anyone's making right now.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 Can I switch topics here for a second?

Speaker 1 Sotheby's is having

Speaker 1 a big auction, and something really, really important in the art world is going up for sale. It is a solid 18-karat gold toilet.
Now, not the toilet that you might have heard before.

Speaker 1 That one was stolen. They never found it.

Speaker 1 It's just the gold is worth $10 million. It's going up for sale.
This artist, he's some,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 cultural phenomena, according to Sotheby's. He took gold, melted it down, and made it into a gold throne.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Apparently, it's a statement on the excess of capitalism. Yeah,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 I think the real statement isn't in the art. I think the real statement is in us.
You know, have you ever heard of DeChamp,

Speaker 1 Stu?

Speaker 1 He was an artist

Speaker 1 in the 1920s, and he did

Speaker 1 a urinal.

Speaker 1 And he was making fun of the art world. And he just took a urinal

Speaker 1 out of out of a men's restroom and then put it on the wall and called it art. And he was mocking the art world, mocking them, saying, you know,

Speaker 1 you can call anything art.

Speaker 1 And, you know, and as long as you like it, then it goes up on value. Well, the art world critics decided, oh, well, two can play at that game.
We love that. That is art.
That is beautiful art.

Speaker 1 And it became one of the most famous art pieces around. Now they're doing it with the

Speaker 1 toilet,

Speaker 1 which should just tell everybody: you know, this whole thing is a con.

Speaker 1 It's a con. Yeah.
The art world is a con.

Speaker 18 And this comes from the 100th most important person in the world of

Speaker 18 as named by Art Something magazine several years ago. Yeah.
Glenn Beck.

Speaker 1 My favorite magazine.

Speaker 18 Yes, it was Art Something magazine. But I will say,

Speaker 18 you ever notice how a lot of statements against capitalism end up in the person making the statement with a lot of money?

Speaker 1 Uh-huh. That seems

Speaker 1 to happen a lot. I have noticed that.

Speaker 18 It's like all these Hollywood movies that make these grand statements against capitalism wind up lining their pockets with millions of dollars. It's so strange how that happens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they hate it.

Speaker 1 And they hate themselves when they have to spend it. They just hate themselves.
You know, this artist, he just hates capitalism, but somehow or another, he got enough.

Speaker 1 Now, remember, the last toilet sold for for the same, and so the last toilet was like $10 million.

Speaker 1 So he had $10 million. Then that toilet was stolen.
And so he's made another one with another $10 million worth of gold.

Speaker 1 So this starving artist somehow or another has coughed up $20 million to make two gold toilets, but he hates capitalism and rich people. They're just so horrible.

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Speaker 1 You know, while we're here on the golden toilets,

Speaker 1 may I just say

Speaker 1 Kim Kardashian is not happy with her family's team of psychics.

Speaker 1 All right, I could do an hour just on families that have teams of psychics.

Speaker 1 But she said, she's just come out and said, all of these psychics, they're frauds.

Speaker 1 They're all full of crap. They all collectively, maybe four of them, told me I was going to pass the bar.
They're pathological liars. Don't believe anything they say.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, first of all, let me just say this, Kim. I had that problem of passing a bar for a very long time, but you just work the steps.

Speaker 1 You work the program, and pretty soon you can pass the bar no matter where you are. You just don't, you don't have to open that door.
Don't do it. Don't drink today.

Speaker 1 Oh, she means the bar exam?

Speaker 1 Wait, Kim Kardashian

Speaker 1 thinks she can pass the bar exam? She wants to be an attorney?

Speaker 1 Would you ever have her as your attorney?

Speaker 18 She's been very interested in the law. Remember

Speaker 18 how into the process of criminal justice reform she was? She was arguably the one that got that over the finish line back in the first Trump administration. She did pass, I believe, the mini bar.

Speaker 18 Now, I don't know if that's the thing in your hotel or if that is an actual test, but I believe it's psychics.

Speaker 1 So I have to ask my team of psychics.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 18 I don't know. How many,

Speaker 18 you know, again, in this economy, how many psychics are too many? Like, how many do you need in your team?

Speaker 1 Oh, you can never have enough psychics. Especially, like you say, in this economy, you know how many psychics out there are like wondering where their next job is going to come from?

Speaker 1 Strangely, they don't know where their next job is going to come from, even though they're psychic. But they're out there going, you know,

Speaker 1 when's my next customer walking through the door? I don't know. Right.
But I'll be able to see their future.

Speaker 18 I love how

Speaker 18 the psychics are responding to this. There's like, I don't know, the world of psychics are saying, like, we can't tell time.

Speaker 1 Like, we, come on.

Speaker 18 Like, we're not saying that she will, they weren't saying that she will pass the bar that particular time she totally.

Speaker 18 It could be in 15 years that she's going to pass the bar, but at some point she will pass the bar.

Speaker 1 Eventually you'll pass the bar.

Speaker 18 This is a great way. It's like a global warming prediction.
You're just never wrong.

Speaker 1 You could say, oh, gosh, it's going to, everyone's, the whole world is going to drop into a ball of flames and we're all going to die in a fiery flood.

Speaker 18 And then you say, well, not now, you know, soon. It's coming.
It's right around the corner. Look, there was a storm in Mississippi two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 So that proves it's on the way.

Speaker 1 I was going to play along with you on that one and say, you know, I didn't give you a date, but these dummies do give you a date.

Speaker 18 Yeah, they do. They often do.

Speaker 1 Kim Kardashian's psychics that don't give her a date.

Speaker 1 These genius, brilliant minds do give you a date within five years. Five years pass.
Nothing. Well, within five years.
That's what you just said. I know.
This is a new five years.

Speaker 18 Yeah. Well, they're.

Speaker 1 Steven's getting worse now. Yeah.

Speaker 18 And I, by the way, would 100% bet on Kim Kardashian's psychics over global warming predictors at this point. But

Speaker 18 there is a thing that they do as well, which is equally frustrating, which is when the five years comes up or the 20 years comes up to an end, they say, well, I mean, you can't judge us by what was 20 years ago.

Speaker 18 We've advanced the science so much. What we're saying now is what's real back then.

Speaker 1 I mean, we barely even had electricity when we made that prediction.

Speaker 18 How can we possibly know?

Speaker 1 Well, the person I would hire definitely to be my attorney

Speaker 1 is listening to psychics.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 good luck. Good luck when you hire the law firm of Kardashian and Moron.

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Speaker 1 Jake in North Carolina. You're on the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 5 Hello, Glenn.

Speaker 1 Hey, how are you? Very good, sir. Yes.
Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 22 I want to be as succinct as I can with my questions. So just a little bit of background.
I'm a 72-year-old guy. I've been blessed enough to live through a lot of presidents.

Speaker 22 I like Ronald Reagan. The rest of them would score a lot of C's and D's on their report cards, as far as I was concerned.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 There's always been people who like and dislike presidencies and their policies, but the hatred for Donald Trump is something that I've never seen in the country towards anybody or anything.

Speaker 1 And now, to get to my question,

Speaker 22 and I always think there's at least 40% on either side that are locked in, but there's 20% in the middle.

Speaker 5 If we go back to 2015, I don't believe you were a strong supporter of Donald Trump at the time. I always have been.

Speaker 1 I don't like Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was the opposite. I was a strong supporter.

Speaker 22 That's where I'm getting to my question.

Speaker 12 There's a group of people

Speaker 22 who could have continued to hate Donald Trump, but you didn't.

Speaker 22 And I don't believe Donald Trump has changed all that much since he came down the escalator. And that's why I have continued to support him, but you didn't, and you changed.

Speaker 22 But you could have gone to the dark side, but you didn't. So how do we get this group?

Speaker 12 How do I get to them?

Speaker 22 What do you have to see? How do you see something that's there?

Speaker 16 But the hatred is so strong.

Speaker 1 Okay, there has to be a couple of things. First of all, you have to be willing to be wrong.
Most people are not willing to be wrong. Okay?

Speaker 1 They've invested too much, especially at this point, 2016 or 17, when I said something, that was a lot easier.

Speaker 1 It was probably as late as 2018. It was a lot easier because I only had a couple of years invested in that.
I liked Donald Trump before. I thought he was a really nice guy.

Speaker 1 But then when he was going to become president, he had absolutely no track record. He was a New York liberal.
I didn't believe he was going to do any of those things.

Speaker 1 I didn't think he was actually serious about any of it.

Speaker 1 And then you would see these things that he would do and you're like, okay, this is not good. This is not good.
I also saw him as a reaction. Stu, I bet you remember the show.

Speaker 1 I was on CNN when I said this. That's how long ago it was.

Speaker 1 I said, if we elect Barack Obama, The next president is going to be somebody who has like a big gravy stain on his tie and it's just like, yep, I just let it all hang out, you know, and, you know, we'll burp or fart and just, it won't matter because it's just, he's real.

Speaker 1 That's who I am.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, he doesn't have a gravy stain on his tie and he doesn't burp and fart. I mean, I'm sure he does, but privately,

Speaker 1 he is that guy. He is that guy.
And

Speaker 1 that made me very, very nervous. But if you remember, during that time, I said, I want to be wrong.
I'm not, I was too arrogant. I'm not wrong, but I want to be wrong.

Speaker 1 And if I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it. So the first thing that has to happen is you have to be willing to be wrong.
If you're not willing to be wrong, nothing's going to change your mind.

Speaker 1 Two,

Speaker 1 you have to be open to the facts. And you take, at least, this is what I did.
I have always taken people at their word. If they say they're going to do it, okay,

Speaker 1 let's watch them. And if they do it, great.
If they don't do it,

Speaker 1 you know, then I know exactly who they are. If they're threatening you, I always take it seriously.

Speaker 1 What happened is people started taking Donald Trump seriously because he is a performer and he's really funny. They started taking him seriously.
Or literally.

Speaker 1 Or literally, and they should have just taken him seriously.

Speaker 1 And if you, what happened to me was was

Speaker 1 I saw him do things that I didn't think he would do. I saw him take stands that I thought, wait a minute, there's no way I didn't believe he would do that for a second.

Speaker 1 And the last one that happened was moving the embassy to Israel. Because I have heard every president say they were going to do at least every conservative president my whole life.

Speaker 1 You know, we're going to recognize. And then they never do it.
And that was one of the things I said when he was talking about, you know, and I'll move the embassy to Jerusalem.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, yeah, sure, you will. And then when he did it, I'm like, you know what? I've seen this, this, this, this, all things that I swore he would never do, and he's doing them.

Speaker 1 I thought he would do these things, and he's not doing them.

Speaker 1 I'm just,

Speaker 1 I'm just wanting to be right by standing in this place. No, I was wrong.
And so I admitted on the air. I have to tell you, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I was wrong about Donald Trump.

Speaker 18 I think too, you know, and this is, I think, goes along to trying to to persuade people today is back in 2016, 2015, when a lot of the stuff was going on, and I was, I felt the same way as you did, Glenn, at the time.

Speaker 18 We were projecting what he would be as a president. We didn't know, right? Like, we were taking his public stances, him running for

Speaker 18 president in other parties, him making public statements that seemed very, very liberal to all of us.

Speaker 18 And, you know, and we had to project whether he would do those things that he kind of always believed or maybe some of the things that he was doing now were going to hold.

Speaker 18 I mean, we talk about him naming Supreme Court justices that wind up overturning Roe versus Wade. That is a big piece of evidence that should change your mind.

Speaker 18 If your opposition, though, to him is, I think he's a right-wing fascist that doesn't care about women's rights,

Speaker 18 I think there's a large portion of the population at this point who is just a lost cause on this one. You know, they've seen their reaction to him is not because

Speaker 18 they were projecting what he might be and then had their opinion changed.

Speaker 18 Their position is made up by what he is. They don't like that.
And that's Donald Trump is not going to change from that. So it's going to be very difficult, I think, to win some of those people over.

Speaker 1 Well, they're not putting any new information in either. Yeah.
They're just reinforcing, I mean, the guy's not a Nazi. How are you a Nazi and yet you're working with the Jews?

Speaker 1 You fundamentally don't understand what a Nazi was.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 how do you square

Speaker 1 he's a misogynist who doesn't like women when

Speaker 1 he is surrounded by some of the smartest women I have seen

Speaker 1 around the president? I mean, isn't what's her name, the first chief of staff, a woman chief of staff?

Speaker 18 I think so. I think she is the first.

Speaker 18 What's her name?

Speaker 1 I can't remember her name.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Wiles.

Speaker 18 Susie Wiles. Yes, yes, thank you.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think she's the first woman chief of staff, and he does it over and over and over again. Look at how strong his children are, his daughters are.
I mean, this guy doesn't like strong women.

Speaker 1 Are you out of your mind?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I don't know if you're going to find those honest people, but the first thing is

Speaker 1 ask them,

Speaker 1 hey, if we have this conversation, if there's new evidence

Speaker 1 or evidence that you didn't know, and I'll do this, I'll make the same promise. I will go and look it up and we can do it together.
You show it to me. I'll show it to you.
And if there's new evidence,

Speaker 1 can we just agree that on that particular piece of evidence that you'll go, okay, point.

Speaker 1 That has to go file because there's not going to be one thing that you find that changes people's minds. It's going to be, oh, well, that's a good point.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 Wow, I thought that was, wow, I didn't think that would ever happen. Wait, I never heard that story.
And then it starts to chip away. And then people start to say, wait a minute, what is it that I do?

Speaker 1 I think I'm being lied to.

Speaker 1 You know, you, you, you know, there are fine people on both sides. That is the easiest thing to disprove.

Speaker 1 So people either have not done the homework

Speaker 1 or

Speaker 1 they're just being dishonest. They can see what the truth is and then they'll come up with some way to still work it out in their head because they don't want to be wrong.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if they can even would vocalize it that way. They just think they're doing the right thing.

Speaker 1 It is brainwashing. It really is brainwashing.
And it takes a lot to get out of that Trump derangement cult that you're in. in.

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Eastern Time, the rise of socialism amongst the youth, the heavily educated.

Speaker 1 It is spreading now at an alarming rate. New Yorkers just elected Mom Donnie, but

Speaker 1 this one can be explained. This is a cultural shift that can be explained by economic issues.
And I'm going to do that tonight.

Speaker 1 The end of the year economic data is not good. It's beginning to come out.
And the outlook for 2026 has three potential

Speaker 1 outcomes. And I'm going to give you three of them.
Two of them, not good. They kind of suck.
But I'm not going to sugarcoat it. One of them is a good outcome, and it could change the world.

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Remember I told you we were going to lose South Korea as an ally?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So far, no.

Speaker 1 But they've just taken a big step. The president, the new president over there,

Speaker 1 told his police force that hate speech and misinformation shared on social media must be, and I'm quoting, must be considered a crime that goes beyond the limits of freedom of expression and must be, still quoting, severely punished as it is a threat to democracy.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That sounds free, doesn't it? Doesn't that sound like everything we fought for? You know?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Got that going for us. Holy cow.

Speaker 18 It seems like we're down a bit of a slippery slope here on this one.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 somebody just, you know, I don't know, X'd me

Speaker 1 and said, Glenn Beck, we're listening at work, and

Speaker 1 we're very upset with Donald Trump today. And I'd like you to comment on that.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I need some more information. What are you upset? More specifically? What are you upset with? I mean, specifically, there's a few things today.
You know, I don't like the savings accounts.

Speaker 1 I don't like the, you know, the money. I don't like the China thing, but I think I understand the Chinese students.

Speaker 1 I think he's playing, again, a longer-term game. I wish he would get them out of our schools, not necessarily the students, but I wish he would, you know, push to get that.

Speaker 1 So you're a foreign government, you're not giving money to our institutions of higher learning or any of our schools. Get that foreign money out of our schools.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 when he's saying, you know, Chinese can come in and 600,000 of them are going to go to school,

Speaker 1 you know, he's got to balance this.

Speaker 1 We have to have China for a while. We cannot cut them off.
Gone are the days when we could just go, you know what?

Speaker 1 China, you're on your own. We're just going to close down, no food for you, and you would starve.
I mean, those days are gone. We need each other at this point.

Speaker 1 And what he's building is a way for us to get out of that. I think that explains China.

Speaker 1 But I need to be, you need to be more specific. What is it that you're pissed about? Yeah.

Speaker 18 I mean, it seems like everybody's mad at Donald Trump about something. I mean, geez,

Speaker 18 the guy, he's always, he's always, everyone seems to be mad all the time.

Speaker 18 It's our culture, I suppose. But yeah, you have to be a little more specific when you're writing that.
Can you just comment on everything?

Speaker 18 I'd like to hear your comments on things.

Speaker 18 Well, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Especially the ones that really bother me. Yeah.

Speaker 18 Yeah, you're going to have to be a little more specific on that.

Speaker 1 Can I take Maria in Delaware quickly? No.

Speaker 1 Hello, Maria.

Speaker 5 Yes. Hello,

Speaker 7 Glenn.

Speaker 29 I just wanted to comment and say I appreciate when you do your little mini sermons, how you go off

Speaker 29 quoting scripture.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 29 to me, it's encouraging because I feel like

Speaker 29 maybe people will say, oh, maybe I need to start reading my Bible too.

Speaker 29 Because so many people have walked away from God, walked away from, and they call themselves Christian. And I'm like,

Speaker 29 how can you be a Christian and you don't know Jesus because you don't read his word?

Speaker 1 So just

Speaker 1 thank you very much. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 It is something that I don't feel like I have a choice on anymore.

Speaker 1 I didn't really talk about a lot of this stuff early on because it was so

Speaker 1 unacceptable. It was good in the South, horrible in the North.

Speaker 1 And, you know,

Speaker 1 you have to make decisions. So I did it as well as I could and, you know, been doing more and more of it.
But I don't think we have a choice now. I mean,

Speaker 1 I think I said this in, you know, 2021. The only solution now is God.
We're not going to get us out of this. Donald Trump's not going to get us out of it.
Man's not going to get us out of it.

Speaker 1 No party, no vote, nothing. It will be God that will get us out of this.

Speaker 1 And so we really need to be worthy of that and be able to connect with him

Speaker 1 as much as we possibly can. We can use every blessing we can get because only God will save the Republic.

Speaker 1 This is Glenn Beck.