Glenn Exposes Democrat Lies About Obamacare & the Shutdown | 11/11/25

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Is the government shutdown over? The Senate passed a bill to fund the government, but now rumors are circulating that it won’t pass the House. Glenn breaks down how Democrats need chaos and fear to gain power. Stu rants about how the media is blaming Republicans for refusing to allow Democrats to further break the economy. Glenn tries to offer some hope about the looming economic crisis that the Democrats are hoping for. Americans want a quick fix, but our country is too sick to heal quickly. Glenn reacts to a disturbing video of protesters mocking Charlie Kirk’s death. Glenn argues that a spiritual war has begun. Glenn and Stu discuss Jimmy Kimmel’s wife cutting ties with family members who voted for Trump. For Veterans Day, Glenn gives his heartfelt message to veterans for everything they sacrificed for the country. Is the internet making AI dumber?
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Speaker 1 We're going to start with the shutdown. Is it over or not? Well, even if it is, I'm going to start all over again in January.
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Hello, Stu.

Speaker 1 Hey, Glenn.

Speaker 2 How's it going?

Speaker 1 So is the shutdown over? I mean, it has to go to the house, and now the house is saying that they're not going to pass it.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 2 the house should be i don't think there's any real belief that they're not going to pass it the big hurdle was the senate and they got through the senate now we just get to watch the ongoing democratic civil war over uh whether chuck shumer is going to be removed or not

Speaker 1 it is crazy so let you know let me let me go through um something that came in from the new york times what were the democrats thinking

Speaker 1 uh this starts out uh in this op-ed back back in september when i was reporting an article democrats should shut down the government I kept hearing the same warning from veterans of past shutdown fights.

Speaker 1 President controls the bully pulpit and parts of the government will stay open and he decides what parts close. It's very, very hard for the opposition party to win a shutdown, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 Now they have brokered a deal over the weekend as the Senate Democrats broke ranks and negotiated a deal to end the shutdown in return for, if we're being honest, very little, according to the New York Times.

Speaker 1 The guts of the deal are this. Food assistance, both SNAP and WIC, will get a more funding.
There will be a few other modest concessions on spending levels elsewhere in the government.

Speaker 1 Laid-off federal workers will be rehired and furloughed federal workers will give them back pay. Most of the government is funded only until the end of January.
So get ready.

Speaker 1 We'll be doing this again. The deal does nothing to extend the expiring Affordable Care Act tax credits, which Democrats substantially shut down the government for in the first place.

Speaker 1 First of all, it's not the affordable care tax credit.

Speaker 1 That's not why you shut it down. There are tax credits, yes, but this is different.
These were the government subsidies. Leave it to the New York Times.
Let me lay this really clear.

Speaker 1 Democrats demanded a continuation of the enhanced subsidies for the American Care Act, okay?

Speaker 1 They were temporarily expanded during the pandemic.

Speaker 1 These were not the tax credits. These were extra subsidies stuffed into the 2021 American Rescue Plan as an emergency measure.

Speaker 1 Remember the one we had to pass this in the middle of the night and nobody could read it. Well, that was what was in it.

Speaker 1 And these subsidies lowered the premiums more than usual, expanded the eligibility far above the original ACA

Speaker 1 income caps, and was always designed to be temporary just for COVID. So if you were in COVID and you lost your job, you didn't have health care or whatever, you could get on the ACA, even though

Speaker 1 your salary was higher than

Speaker 1 it would be accepted.

Speaker 1 Normally, you could get on it. But once they created this, Washington does what Washington always does, and they won't let it go.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It's not the tax credit. To understand why this shutdown will end with such a whimper, you need to understand the strange role the ACA subsidies played in it.

Speaker 1 Democrats said the shutdown was about subsidies, but for most of them, it wasn't. Now, this is the New York Times saying this.
It was about Trump's authoritarianism.

Speaker 1 It was about showing their base and themselves that they could fight back. It was about treating an abnormal political moment abnormally.

Speaker 1 The ACA subsidies emerged as the shutdown demand because they could keep the caucus sufficiently united.

Speaker 1 They put Democrats on the right side of public opinion, even though self-identified MAGA voters wanted the subsidies extended.

Speaker 1 and they held the quivering Senate coalition together. You shut the government down with the Democratic caucus that you have, not with the Democratic caucus that you want.

Speaker 1 But the shutdown was built on a crack foundation. There were Senate Democrats who didn't want to shut down at all.

Speaker 1 There were Senate Democrats who did want to shut down, but thought it was strange to make their demand so narrow. Was winning on health care premiums really winning the right fight?

Speaker 1 Shouldn't Democrats really vote to fund a government turning towards authoritarianism as long as health insurance subsidies are preserved?

Speaker 1 And what if winning the health care fight was actually a political gift to Trump? Now, listen to this, the New York Times.

Speaker 1 Absent a fix, the average health insurance premium for 20 million Americans will more than double. The premium shock will hit red states really hard.

Speaker 1 Trump's longtime poll sir had released a survey of competitive

Speaker 1 house districts showing that letting the tax credits expire might be lethal to Republican efforts to hold the House. Why were the Democrats fighting so hard to neutralize their best issue in 2026?

Speaker 1 The political logic of this shutdown fight was inverted. If Democrats got the tax credits extended, if they won, they'd be solving a huge electoral problem for the Republicans.

Speaker 1 If Republicans successfully allowed the tax credits to expire, if they won, they'd be handing the Democrats a cudgel which would beat them in the next elections. This is unbelievable.
I mean,

Speaker 1 they're saying it out loud. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 They go on in this to say, you know,

Speaker 1 quote, why can't Republicans just accept reality? These healthcare subsidies are working. No, they're not.
No, they are not. They are propping.
Okay.

Speaker 1 They're scaffolding, holding up a structure that was never sound. They were a COVID era brace jammed under a tottering wall.
And now the same architects who swore

Speaker 1 the house was safe, they're telling you now the splintered wood is actually part of the design. What?

Speaker 1 This is the power the mainstream media has. The press still has over millions of Americans.
It's kind of like a hypnotic chokehold.

Speaker 1 You say the word subsidy enough times with the right sad piano music under it, and suddenly we forget what subsidies are. Here's what subsidies are, gang.

Speaker 1 Money borrowed from the Chinese, but we're on the hook. No, we're not on the hook for it.

Speaker 1 Money borrowed from the Chinese from the future to hide the failures of the present on decisions that were made in the past. Okay?

Speaker 1 And now we're told if we don't just keep borrowing forever, America will collapse. No, what collapses is this crazy illusion?

Speaker 1 Let's be clear about something the op-ed never will omit. The Affordable Care Act didn't fail because of Republicans.
It failed because math is a stubborn thing.

Speaker 1 Because insurance is not health care. Because a program bent around bureaucrats and middlemen will always cost more and deliver less.

Speaker 1 We have been subsidizing the symptoms. We never treated the disease here.
And now, when a shutdown touches those subsidies, suddenly we're told the sky is cracking.

Speaker 1 TikTok is flooded with panic videos scripted by algorithms that can't really be trusted. The influencers don't even know what they're defending.
They just know fear pays better than than the truth.

Speaker 1 And here's the truth. The system was failing long before Trump, long before Biden, long before COVID.
And maybe, just maybe, this moment is not a crisis, but an opening.

Speaker 1 You know, I've said this for months now. The greatest political opportunity of our lifetime now is healthcare reform.
Real,

Speaker 1 actual reform. Not another Washington quick fix, not more subsidies or anything else, not a band-aid over a bullet wound, but the Republicans won't do anything about it.

Speaker 1 I believe, and I say this without hesitation, I think

Speaker 1 that Trump and RFK Jr. together may be the only combination force in American politics with the will to take a flamethrower to the bureaucracy that is choking doctors and nurses.

Speaker 1 The pharmaceutical lobby, the insurance labyrinth, the 50 states wrapped in 50 different versions of red tape, all of it has to be confronted. And here's why Trump can't afford to miss this.

Speaker 1 If he solves even a quarter of this problem, if he can find the way to lower costs, if he increases access, if he frees the market to actually work across state lines, he'll not only win in 2026, he'll be launching a momentum that will carry Vance

Speaker 1 into the presidency in 2028.

Speaker 1 This is the key here.

Speaker 1 But he has to remember something Washington has long forgotten. The people he's negotiating with, they don't want a deal.
They don't fear collapse. They welcome it.

Speaker 1 They have been playing a slow-motion color revolution, one where the country has to be impoverished, has to be frightened, and has to be divided to accept the new power structures.

Speaker 1 Color revolutions only work if your people are hungry, if they're afraid, and they believe the people in the head of the government are authoritarian.

Speaker 1 When that happens, you can have a color revolution.

Speaker 1 And every day America does not break, every day the economy still stands, every day people wake up and realize their lives are not as hopeless as the media insist, the revolutionaries lose their leverage.

Speaker 1 So the shutdown is not the crisis. The crisis is the addiction to government medicine.
So here's the battle line that matters, I think, most right now.

Speaker 1 While the press spins, you know, panic, Trump has to gather the brightest minds, the innovators, the disruptors, the people who build things rather than manage decline. That's what he does best.

Speaker 1 You know, if Elon Musk could do for NASA what Washington could not, then why can't we find, maybe even get Elon Musk, why can't we unleash the same kind of thinking on health care?

Speaker 1 It's time for radical thinking. Imagine a system where your doctor spends more time listening than actually checking boxes.
Imagine competition across state lines.

Speaker 1 Imagine prices that behave like normal prices because the market is finally allowed to work and government doesn't have its finger on the scale.

Speaker 1 Imagine freeing the nurses and physicians from the paperwork prisons they're in and letting them practice medicine again. This isn't utopian.
That's just

Speaker 1 uncaptured America. The America before the bureaucratic glacier settled over absolutely everything in our lives.

Speaker 1 Trump is the one that can do this.

Speaker 1 He's hitting home runs,

Speaker 1 grand slams,

Speaker 1 all the time, all the time.

Speaker 1 Healthcare is the crack in the wall where sunlight is still getting through.

Speaker 1 If you solve this,

Speaker 1 If you solve the pressure

Speaker 1 and you lower the pressure

Speaker 1 on the engine behind the color revolution, you win.

Speaker 1 You win. I'm not even talking about elections.
You save the republic. You solve this and you solve the fear that drives half of our political dysfunction.

Speaker 1 Washington thinks the shutdown is a battlefield. It's not.
The battlefield is health care. The future is decided there.

Speaker 1 And the man who breaks that system open and lets Americans breathe again will shape this country for a generation

Speaker 1 and the only guy to do it is Donald Trump

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Speaker 1 You know, the thing that I don't know why people aren't saying this, this subsidy is not going to the people.

Speaker 1 You're not keeping this money. It's not like you're getting a check and you're keeping it.

Speaker 1 You're getting a check from the government for the subsidy, and it's going directly to the insurance companies.

Speaker 1 And I just find that, I just, I find that amazing that that's what the Democrats are fighting for. More money to the insurance companies.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 That's kind of a different look at it. Isn't it still? I mean, I thought it was for the poor people.
Right. No, no, no, no.
No, it's for the insurance companies. I mean,

Speaker 2 it's always been a giant source of guaranteed revenue to insurance companies

Speaker 2 since the beginning of it.

Speaker 2 And, you know, it's funny because we just went over this big election with New York City and everything where everyone was like, you need to focus on affordability.

Speaker 2 And the Democrats supposedly nailed that messaging, at least in these blue areas,

Speaker 2 were able to win these elections.

Speaker 1 When

Speaker 2 comically,

Speaker 2 next time Democrats bring up affordability, remind them what the ACA stands for.

Speaker 1 The Affordable Care Act.

Speaker 2 They've already tried this. They tried to pitch you this years and years and years ago.
And now, by their own admission,

Speaker 2 the entire system will collapse unless we give you even more money to lower their own supposedly affordable rates. This was supposed to make health care affordable.

Speaker 2 They were supposed to have solved this a long time ago. They tried it.
They failed.

Speaker 2 And now it's supposedly Republicans' fault for not approving even more money, hundreds of billions of dollars more to go back into the same program to make the Affordable Care Act actually affordable.

Speaker 2 How is that possibly Republicans' fault?

Speaker 1 I think this is why God takes us out when we're in our 80s or 90s. Because you get so tired of it.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I remember in the,

Speaker 1 you know, when the ACA was first being debated as Obamacare and Obamacare and Obama said, this is going to make it affordable for everybody. And I said, no, it's not.
It's not. The math doesn't work.

Speaker 1 And here's what's going to happen. They're going to do it for a few years and then it's going to get so bad, it'll collapse.

Speaker 1 And so they'll come to you and say, we need more tax dollars and the evil Republicans won't give it to us, but this will fix it. And it won't fix it then.

Speaker 1 And they'll just keep going until it finally goes into universal health care. And then, you know, then you're really screwed.
And I'm so, I'm so tired. I mean,

Speaker 1 you were saying all these arguments and I'm like, well, yeah, we made those arguments. Yeah.
Stu and I talked about this, oh, 15 years ago and didn't seem to make a difference then.

Speaker 1 You know, that's what I just started thinking. You know, I think this is why when you get older, God takes you.

Speaker 1 It's out of mercy because you remember too many things that have happened over and over and over again, and you just can't get people to understand. Stop.
Stop doing that. Stop doing it.

Speaker 1 Don't you understand?

Speaker 2 It's so frustrating.

Speaker 1 It's incredibly frustrating.

Speaker 2 And, you know, it is something that we talked about a million times back in the day. And

Speaker 2 the problem, of course, is it's always their answers.

Speaker 2 And it's difficult to win those battles.

Speaker 2 You think about like there was a

Speaker 2 new report out about minimum wage and how that fast food minimum wage thing from a few years ago, where they raised all the prices in California, $15, cost something like 19,000 people their jobs.

Speaker 1 Think of

Speaker 2 what the ramifications are of that

Speaker 1 over a long period of time.

Speaker 2 19,000, probably younger people who couldn't get jobs, who didn't get to build their careers, didn't get to get started, now are probably working with families where they are making less money.

Speaker 2 This is going to echo throughout their entire lives. And what is the answer going to be when they can't pay for these things later in life? Once again, it's going to somehow be our fault.

Speaker 2 It's going to be our fault. And then the only answer will be government giving them more and then becoming more dependent on government.

Speaker 2 And we need new programs and new Affordable Care Act nonsense to patch up what they already tore apart. And it's just, it's on repeat, man.
It's the same thing over and over again.

Speaker 1 It's the same thing. Again, that's why that's why the Lord takes it.
That's why we don't, you know, Moses, you know, he lived to what, like 900 years old or something like that. You know,

Speaker 1 he didn't have social media. He didn't have,

Speaker 1 you know, he didn't have all of these things that he was like, oh, geez, I just saw this one 400 years ago. And then I saw it, you know, 350 years ago, 325 years ago, 300 years ago, 295 years ago.

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You know what I mean? That's like, I just feel like we're stuck in that one level.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to the Glenbeck program. Stu does not share my

Speaker 1 optimism, and

Speaker 1 I think that's too strong of a word. I'm not optimistic.
I am hopeful that somebody in Washington on our side understands what we're facing here, that healthcare is the biggest win.

Speaker 1 It's the biggest win and totally winnable.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I do think

Speaker 2 if it was like the top priority of Donald Trump, I think he could be able to move Republicans towards trying to come up with something, I guess.

Speaker 2 But I don't show much optimism on that because as I was going through that whole scenario, it wasn't just that we said these rates would go up and that the Affordable Care Act wouldn't be affordable and gave all of the reasons that wound up playing out with risk pools and everything else.

Speaker 2 And it wasn't also that we would say, hey, the way they're going to try to solve this is by more government subsidies and more dependence on government.

Speaker 2 We said all that stuff, and that's what we just talked about. But the other thing we said was that after this thing got passed, the Republicans would bail on opposing it.

Speaker 2 We would no longer have an opposition. We're now to the part of the story where the right wing position is just normal Obamacare.

Speaker 2 And the left-wing position is new, expanded, fancy, times 10 Obamacare. It's the question of whether we triple down on Obamacare or double down on it.
That's now the conservative position.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let me give you some hope. I talked to Dr.
Oz, and

Speaker 1 he said they are introducing something here in the next couple of months,

Speaker 1 should be any time now.

Speaker 1 And it will be done at the state level, and it will be to

Speaker 1 stop all the barriers from state to state. And

Speaker 1 you get

Speaker 1 your funding for different programs if you get rid of those barriers for your insurance companies. And if you don't, well, you don't get your funding.
And so they're going to be incentivized to do it.

Speaker 1 So I do think that there is some thinking about this that is going on with RFK and Dr. Oz.
In fact, let's see if we can get them on.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'll go up to Washington and do a podcast with them because I think this is the big win here. Because if you look,

Speaker 1 you have to change the life of people

Speaker 1 in the next

Speaker 1 15 months, 12 months, if you want to win the election.

Speaker 1 And if you want to win with J.D. Vance,

Speaker 1 you're going to have to do it in the next 18 months at the very minimum.

Speaker 1 It's going to get harder and harder to do it. So

Speaker 1 you have the things.

Speaker 1 What are the levers the president has in front of him?

Speaker 1 Housing. What is the problem with the housing market? The housing market, there's a couple of problems.
One,

Speaker 1 have a, we have a shortage of housing, okay, because

Speaker 1 everybody freaked out and everybody's like, you know, 2008, we had a housing glut. And so now maybe we should go the other way.
And so we didn't build enough houses.

Speaker 1 So now we have this giant housing shortage. Okay.
So can the president fix that one quickly?

Speaker 1 No, because millions of houses need to be built. And how is he going to do it? Unless there's a land grab.
Okay, unless he opens up federal land, which we saw how that one went.

Speaker 1 So he can't really fix fix the housing thing. He could help it by saying, hey, BlackRock, you guys stop buying houses.
But how do you do that? I mean, is that the right thing to do?

Speaker 1 I mean, it's the right thing to do for the people constitutionally. Can you do that? I don't know.
I don't think so. The next cost that people are feeling, electricity.

Speaker 1 What are you going to do with that? Well, we know that he is building power plants or

Speaker 1 he is letting the red tape go on the power plants. So, if you want to build a power plant, you can build a power plant in record time.

Speaker 1 But that again is 18, 24, 36 months away minimum before you have new power plants where you'll start to see your electricity costs go down. So, you can't do that.
Food costs: what is he going to do?

Speaker 1 Import cheaper food? That's not a good idea.

Speaker 1 So, what do you, how do you affect the average person's money?

Speaker 1 Well, you can send them free money, which means we have to print more. He's going to send free money.
It's the money that, you know, he's been taking in from the trade barriers.

Speaker 1 So he's saying he's going to send $2,000

Speaker 1 check to people. And that's the first time I've ever seen a check where the money was actually

Speaker 1 money that we had, not printed money.

Speaker 1 But that's all you can do. If you can even do that, that's all you can do because you can't print money.

Speaker 1 You can't have a stimulus or you will jack the prices of everything up and then you're in the same loop over and over and over again. The only place where the government has the tools,

Speaker 1 has enough sway, Donald Trump could do this, to start breaking this thing up is healthcare. And that could change things pretty much overnight.

Speaker 1 Within 12 months, if he acted today, within 12 months, you would start to see prices come down. You would start to see competition.
You would start to see some sort of relief.

Speaker 1 But what else does he have, Stu? What else can he do that can change people's lives? And he knows he has to do that.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, I generally, I think, agree with most of that. I think that, you know, the healthcare is one you could do.

Speaker 2 Although, you know, again, that's something you sign up for on an annual basis, right? So, I mean, even if the prices did drop,

Speaker 2 it would take a while for that to come in. I mean,

Speaker 2 the easiest way to do this, and he's, by the way, done a lot of this, is, you know, deregulation.

Speaker 2 You know, I think what's happening with some of that, and we're not seeing tons and tons of results from that, is because I think he's doing things on the other side as well that are affecting prices the opposite way.

Speaker 2 So we're not going to see massive drops.

Speaker 2 And, you know, of course, a lot of this is too is just, you know, there's a lot of big promises that are made when you're talking about prices coming down really fast. It's not always achievable.

Speaker 2 Again, the president of the United States, we've said this for 100 million years. I feel like, again, we're on repeat here, but the president of the United States is not the guy who sets prices.

Speaker 2 That's not his job, right? Like, he doesn't micromanage the economy. He can do things that can help the economy.

Speaker 2 And I think what's happening now, as you're pointing out, and I think this is the desperation a little bit seeping into our politics, is that

Speaker 2 there were, Trump won the election with a lot of people who had faith in him, not because he was good on even the border or on, you know,

Speaker 2 you know, trans kids, you know, trans men playing great sports. It was about that it was that affordability issue.

Speaker 2 He was really good on that, and people believed they would see an economy like they saw in 2018 and 2019 in his first term. And we're just, you know, so far not really seeing that.

Speaker 2 Now, there's a lot to unwind from where Joe Biden was. And the way these prices work when it comes to inflation is not necessarily that prices drop down.

Speaker 2 That's what's so devastating about a long-term inflation like the one that we got from Joe Biden. The prices get to a set level and

Speaker 2 you don't necessarily bring those prices down as much as you stop the and slow the increase.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Which is difficult.
But like, again, one of the focuses of Trump's economic plan is to try to draw a lot of these products to be made in the United States.

Speaker 2 As you point out, that is a long-term process. You're talking about way after Donald Trump is out of office before you're seeing

Speaker 2 the potential theoretical benefits of new factories being built in the United States. It's going to take a long time for that to work if you believe it's going to work.
And when you're talking about

Speaker 2 the other side of that, which is increasing prices based on different taxes and such,

Speaker 2 you're winding up with a situation where you're taking the medicine and you're waiting for those results to kick in over multiple periods of years.

Speaker 2 So I think the way that he can do a lot of this stuff, the best thing that he can do in a quick way is cutting regulation. You can cut out a lot of this stuff to increase the speed of the improvement.

Speaker 2 Like if you want to build a new power plant, he can cut those things from 12 years to four,

Speaker 2 but that's not going to, it's not

Speaker 2 an immediate

Speaker 2 economic win.

Speaker 1 No, the problem is.

Speaker 1 The country has cancer. That's the problem.
The country has cancer, and we can survive, but it's going to take chemotherapy and a long time.

Speaker 1 And so you can't just go in, if you have, you know, cancer, you can't go in and say, well, you know, you told me yesterday you were going to start chemotherapy and I had my first.

Speaker 1 chemotherapy and I feel worse and I'm not getting any better. It's been six months, Doc, and I'm not feeling any better.
Yeah, you're not going to feel better at first because it's a serious disease.

Speaker 1 That's the issue that we're dealing with. The damage, and we said this under Biden, we said this under the first Trump, we said this under Bush.
You know, Reagan was saying this. At some point,

Speaker 1 the sickness is going to be so bad that there's not going to be anything that feels good to do. And it's going to get harder and harder to take the medicine.

Speaker 1 And unfortunately, you know, everybody wants a quick fix. You know, when Reagan came in and everything was out of control, you remember what Paul Volcker did?

Speaker 1 Do you remember this still?

Speaker 1 Yeah. You weren't old enough.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but he was

Speaker 1 through history.

Speaker 2 What did he do? He had to get rid of inflation. So that meant jacking up rates, and it was a painful period.

Speaker 1 To what?

Speaker 2 To what? Gosh, was it 18, 20% in that range, right?

Speaker 1 It was, I think at the top, it was 20%

Speaker 1 interest rates. I remember 19%

Speaker 1 interest rates. 19.
People are freaking out over five or six.

Speaker 1 We had 19% interest rates. That stopped everybody from buying.
You want to talk about not being able to afford a house. That was it.
But that's what sucked all that money back in.

Speaker 1 Well, you can't do that now because the patient is so sick, you can't, those interest rates will kill everything. It'll kill all the jobs.
The whole thing will collapse. So you can't do that.

Speaker 1 But we're complaining on 5%,

Speaker 1 you know, and we're wanting them lower and lower and lower. Well,

Speaker 1 yes, I want that too, because there are signs that jobs are going away. But jobs going away is not just the interest rate.
It is also AI and automation.

Speaker 1 We are in this really ugly place that if we don't have these honest conversations and really explain to each other exactly what all of the forces are, you're going to get socialism

Speaker 1 because that will seem like the only answer. Just make it stop.
Just make it stop. Well, okay,

Speaker 1 but know what all of the forces are that are causing all of these things. And there is a way out of it.
It just cannot be done in two years. It can't be.
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Speaker 1 I'll see. I mean, it's going to the house.
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Speaker 1 this is something they're going to do. It'll hurt the economy if we keep doing this.

Speaker 1 And I think this is something we're going to see all through next year, all the way through the election season. Yay.
Isn't that great?

Speaker 1 But I was telling Stu that I'm reading a new book. I went to a Barnes ⁇ Noble yesterday for the first time in I don't know how long.
They're actual bookstores.

Speaker 1 Who would have guessed it?

Speaker 2 A few of them left.

Speaker 1 But I know, it's been so long since I've been in a bookstore, I didn't even know how to use it anymore. I'm like, where are the new books?

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 found a new book out called 1929. Holy cow, is this good?

Speaker 1 It takes the year 19, I probably read a quarter of it just yesterday.

Speaker 1 It takes 1929 and breaks it up into every month of what was going on. You know, it starts at the crash and says, this is coming.

Speaker 1 And then shows all of the players and what they were doing and what they were saying all the way up. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 Kind of, kind of, probably an important thing to note because it looks

Speaker 1 exactly the same. Exactly.
Exactly the same.

Speaker 2 Fun, fun. Anyway, yeah.

Speaker 2 There's another book out. I think it's out today called Fateful Hours.
It's by Volker Ulrich, who is a guy who talked about before.

Speaker 1 The Nazi,

Speaker 1 the best Hitler profiles ever done by him.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, he's not a Nazi. I mean, I don't think you should accuse him of that.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 He's probably the best biographer of the Nazi movement and Hitler. He's written the best books on it.

Speaker 2 I think so. Yeah, he's

Speaker 2 in, again, like these new ones come out every

Speaker 2 in-depth Hitler biographies. He did a set of those.
He's done a bunch of books about

Speaker 2 the time around the Nazi movement. The new one is about the fall of the Weimar Republic,

Speaker 2 what leads into the Nazi movement. It's the sort of the prequel, I suppose, of the Hitler biographies and what caused that.
And it just came out today.

Speaker 2 I haven't read it yet, but I will be reading it because, you know, those are the, it's the same thing as 1929, right?

Speaker 1 You're, you're, you're wondering. Oh, yeah, right there.

Speaker 1 I mean, part of it is in March, I think I'm up to March, uh, one of the guys who runs one of the big banks, he's going over to, you know, try to convince Europe, you got to let Germany, you know, let's, let's maybe get them on credit.

Speaker 1 Let's see if we can, let's see if we can finance this thing to bring the payments down and be more reasonable. You know, I think we can get that done.
Oh, he's in for a big shock.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I mean, Weimar, the collapse of that deal, 1929, the collapse of that deal leads right to Adolf Hitler. And, you know, you want to see the future.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 read about the Weimar Republic. I mean,

Speaker 1 it's all there. Everything we've been doing has been in the Weimar Republic.
All of it. I mean, exact trans surgeries.
All of it was done in the 20s in Germany, in Berlin.

Speaker 1 It's, it's nuts, the parallels. But pay no attention to those dots.
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Speaker 1 Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenbeck Program.
Got a lot on the plate today. I want to start with TPUSA.
They had the last Charlie Kirk, you know,

Speaker 1 session

Speaker 1 where you could go to the college campus.

Speaker 1 This time it was at UC Berkeley, and it was really, really ugly, and I want to talk to you about that and what it takes to live in today's world and be, you know, a force for good in today's world.

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Speaker 1 Let me start with a couple of things here. I want to go to cut five first.

Speaker 1 I want to play this from Elon Omar.

Speaker 1 During an interview,

Speaker 1 she was asked about, you know, does she have any fear that she could be deported? Now, listen to this. This is a Congresswoman of the United States.
Listen to this.

Speaker 5 I mean, I have no worry. I don't know how they take away my citizenship and like deport me, but it's, but I don't even know like why that's like a such a scary threat.

Speaker 5 Like, I'm not the eight-year-old who escaped war anymore. I'm grown.
My kids are grown. Like, I can go live wherever I want.

Speaker 1 Oh, she can go and live wherever she wants. Boy, I wish she would.

Speaker 1 So, wait a minute. I'm trying to understand then.
Why are you so against ICE?

Speaker 1 Because it's not scary. You can go and live wherever you want.

Speaker 1 Why are you so afraid?

Speaker 1 Because you're not afraid of it.

Speaker 1 You would think, first of all, constitutionally, they can't do that. Well, I mean, you can if you came under false pretenses, and I'm just saying marry your brother.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 you know, you could, you could have that citizenship taken away if, if that were ever true or proven, and there's absolutely no way that ever going to happen.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 it doesn't sound like she's proud to be an American. I could just live wherever I want.
You know, I've thought about this a lot. Stu and I were joking about it last week.
He was like, you know, Glenn,

Speaker 1 you might want to consider a second citizenship someplace else. And I'm like, wait, what? What are you talking about? I mean, if you want an escape hatch, now would be the time to get it.

Speaker 1 And I've thought about it because honestly, if

Speaker 1 the power goes back to the left, to the left, not Democrats, to the left in 2028,

Speaker 1 it is not going to be pretty.

Speaker 1 They are going to do things that I

Speaker 1 am not looking forward to. I mean, we'll be out of business.
You'll be lucky to not be. I mean, we have one person running, and I've got a story about it later.

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Speaker 1 We have a person running for the Democrats that actually believes in rounding people up that are Trump supporters and putting them in concentration camps. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Wow. All right.
I'm not for that, but I guess, you know, hey, whatever floats your boat.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we've seen that they are willing to get nasty they are they it's it's not a live and let live kind of thing you know what I mean

Speaker 1 and that's kind of where I want to spend my time you know here in the next few minutes on that let me start with UK Berkeley these are anti-TPUSA protesters they show up on the front lines

Speaker 1 And they are

Speaker 1 they're they're shouting things at the people who are waiting to get into

Speaker 1 the event last night at UC Berkeley. Listen to this.

Speaker 1 Do I need to say what they're saying about your dead homie?

Speaker 1 Wow. I mean, I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm having a a hard time with this.

Speaker 1 It's not that it is,

Speaker 1 I guess, unexpected. It's just the atmosphere.
Something has changed in the atmosphere.

Speaker 1 You know, for the last few weeks, I have been carrying this feeling around.

Speaker 1 You know, like the weather has changed and nobody has bothered to check the forecast. You know, it's not a gentle slide from fall into winter.

Speaker 1 It's like all of a sudden

Speaker 1 you have a front ripping across the plains. That's what's happening.

Speaker 1 And I've been thinking about this a lot, and I haven't expressed it this way.

Speaker 1 There's an old principle from physics, and we all learned it in school. It's Newton's third law.
And you can say it almost like a lullaby now. For every action, there is a

Speaker 1 equal and opposite reaction, right?

Speaker 1 And that line is classroom trivia, but it's more than that, because it is a description of how reality itself pushes back. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
Every force will set off another force.

Speaker 1 Every impact ripples a counter impact.

Speaker 1 And I can't shake that law lately, you know, because it is becoming less scientific and more almost like scripture right now.

Speaker 1 Think about what's happened in the last six months. Think about the action that has happened in the last six months.

Speaker 1 We had evil strike. Charlie Kirk was taken.
Okay.

Speaker 1 It wasn't just a tragedy.

Speaker 1 It was a rupture in the floorboards of our world. And millions of people felt it all over the world.
The entire globe stopped for a minute, stunned.

Speaker 1 That was the action.

Speaker 1 But then there was an equal and opposite reaction.

Speaker 1 And I don't think it was all that equal. It was all of a sudden like, oh, you want to play that game? It was bigger.
And it did not come from man. It was a revival.

Speaker 1 It was this weird, glorious, unexpected rising of the human soul. Okay.
People who hadn't prayed in 20 years found themselves whispering to God in the dark. Baptism surged.
Churches filled.

Speaker 1 Questions that had been buried under politics and entertainment started bubbling to the surface again. Is there more to life than this?

Speaker 1 What am I supposed to be? Is there any purpose to this? What is the cost of truth?

Speaker 1 For a few weeks, that really was bubbling.

Speaker 1 Charlie's funeral reached over 1 billion people.

Speaker 1 When in history has a moment of grief turned into a global searchlight,

Speaker 1 so this was a massive reaction

Speaker 1 that's caused all kinds of ripples.

Speaker 1 Now comes another reaction,

Speaker 1 the one that follows the revival, and it is the counterforce. And just like the first action of the shooter, it was evil, but it was man.

Speaker 1 The reaction, the revival, was not man, although it included men. But it felt like it was a God thing, didn't it?

Speaker 1 Now the reaction to that is the counterforce.

Speaker 1 And it's the hatred on the left. It's the weird, weird ass lies about Charlie's death, okay?

Speaker 1 The weird attempt to repackage, you know, a new version of the oldest tyrant in human history and parade him out as something fresh. You know, I think it was just misunderstood.

Speaker 1 You're like, what is happening?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 all of it is tied to this ancient hate the Jews stuff.

Speaker 1 This isn't politics. This isn't campus theatrics.
This isn't what we were facing even a year ago.

Speaker 1 The pushback,

Speaker 1 that next reaction

Speaker 1 is something older,

Speaker 1 something that has always hated awakenings wherever it appears. And for me at least,

Speaker 1 I think this is the first time in my life, and maybe it's just me, but I feel like the eternal battle that usually plays you know plays out way above our heads

Speaker 1 you know in in

Speaker 1 in realms that we can barely imagine

Speaker 1 it's as if we're seeing the two main actors stepping onto the stage with us

Speaker 1 you know it's almost like the curtain has been pulled aside and the big players have walked in.

Speaker 1 And you're like, wait, is that?

Speaker 1 And wow. And he's, holy cow.

Speaker 1 Whether we wanted a role in this play or not, our part has been cast. We're part of this cast, okay?

Speaker 1 Fortunately for us, God uses human hands. Unfortunately for us, darkness does as well.

Speaker 1 So last week, when I told you I think the seasons have changed,

Speaker 1 Charlie's death was the ringing of a bell, not a funeral bell, but the opening bell in the title fight. fight.

Speaker 1 Everything before that moment, all of the political squabbles, all the cultural noise, that was the undercard. These were all the warm-ups.
These were the fight before the main event.

Speaker 1 I really am convinced when you're seeing this evil on the street, when you're seeing this

Speaker 1 lack of total lack of humanity,

Speaker 1 And the celebration of death and the reframing of everything, especially when it comes to ancient evil

Speaker 1 to me the main event has now begun

Speaker 1 does anybody recognize that

Speaker 1 because now it is our time to act now it's our time

Speaker 1 to do what we're supposed to do

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Speaker 1 So I want to talk to you about heroism and what it means to be a hero.

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Speaker 1 Someone who steps forward when it's really easier to stay silent, when you are standing there and you're like, I should say something and you don't, and then somebody else does and you're like, wow.

Speaker 1 Somebody who puts somebody else before themselves not because they want the recognition but because they understand something deeper

Speaker 1 heroism is built from really small choices made every single day

Speaker 1 and it starts super super small it's um courage is a muscle that you have to exercise Because if you wait and you're like, oh, I'm going to have courage when you're not going to have courage because you haven't exercised that muscle.

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Speaker 1 they exercise this. It's the neighbor who shares their time.

Speaker 1 It's you, the parent who stays up worrying, the co-worker who lends a hand. These are the acts that are grounded in care and in love and they're rooted in fairness, just doing,

Speaker 1 just doing what's just, what's right when nobody else is watching.

Speaker 1 And they grow through loyalty to your family, your friends, your community, something larger than yourself.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell you a story next about a family that is broken up, and it's just, it's just tragic.

Speaker 1 And it's a family of somebody that you know, you may not like, you may like, I don't know, but

Speaker 1 it's a family of somebody you know, and it's just broken up over just stupid stuff.

Speaker 1 We're sacrificing our families now.

Speaker 1 Wait,

Speaker 1 we're sacrificing our family family for what exactly?

Speaker 1 Heroism. Being a hero, that will ask you to sacrifice.
But sacrifice isn't just giving something up. It's investing.

Speaker 1 This is the difference. Investing trust, investing energy, investing hope.
It's giving a part of yourself so you can stand taller, so a burden is eased, a spark of goodness that spreads.

Speaker 1 And most likely, not going to be remembered. It'll be remembered by those people that you did something for, but you might even forget about it.

Speaker 1 But they won't. But the world's not going to be remembered because it's not seen.
The soldiers, I mean, they did amazing things.

Speaker 1 Are they really remembered? The rescuers, the leaders?

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Speaker 1 Their reward is invisible.

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Speaker 1 Today I want to challenge you. If you look out and see fear, fear of loss, fear of exposure, fear that no one is noticing you,

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Speaker 1 Fear is a big part of life, but it doesn't have to be. It doesn't come from any place good.
And heroism does not mean an absence of fear.

Speaker 1 It means while you feel fear,

Speaker 1 you do it anyway.

Speaker 1 It doesn't require any power. It just requires heart.

Speaker 1 When you feel fear, do it anyway.

Speaker 1 That's what makes a hero. That's it.
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Speaker 1 We all have fields of action.

Speaker 1 Here, me behind this microphone, microphone,

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Speaker 1 There needs to be a hero every single place where you are.

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Speaker 1 you're exercising heroism.

Speaker 1 The world's going to need heroes.

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Speaker 1 sacrifice.

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Speaker 1 but to plant a seed, to make sure that somebody else goes on.

Speaker 1 I don't exactly know how this all works out,

Speaker 1 but I know that it is an honor to live at this time

Speaker 1 because we get to see who we really are.

Speaker 1 I don't know who I would have been.

Speaker 1 I probably would have been a lot more selfish than I am, but I'm still pretty selfish.

Speaker 1 I probably would have been a lot more selfish.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I would have survived the Fox years because I probably would have wanted it, and then I wasn't, I hadn't dedicated myself to anything bigger than me, so I probably would have stayed, and that would have been a nightmare.

Speaker 1 Somebody needs a voice, somebody needs kindness today.

Speaker 1 Will you be that person that will rise? Because everything is getting so huge, so huge. All the issues are getting so huge.
And we all feel like, I can't do anything about it.

Speaker 1 You can,

Speaker 1 but not on a huge scale. But that's not what you're asked to do.
You're not the president. I'm not the president.
I mean, I have this job. I can't tell you how many times I come home.

Speaker 1 I said to my wife last night, I don't want to go to work tomorrow. She's like, stop whining.
I'm like, I don't want to go to work tomorrow. It doesn't make a difference.
And she's like, shut up.

Speaker 1 You know better than that. But it's true.
You get to, I mean, because everybody does. Everybody feels that way in their own job.
It doesn't make a difference. What am I doing?

Speaker 1 But you do it anyway because it does make a difference. Your job makes a difference.
Not,

Speaker 1 you know, mine, not on a colossal scale. I mean, if you're Donald Trump, then maybe you get to have that huge, huge impact.
But we can't all be, and I don't want to be that.

Speaker 1 Just want to make the difference, honestly, in my children's life, first of all, in my wife's life, in my neighborhood, in my church, with people around me.

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Speaker 1 You know, you know, when I was a kid, I don't know if you were like this, but my aunts and uncles, my dad and my grandpa and everybody, they would go at each other like, you know, alley cats, pack of alley cats, just ripping each other, ripping each other apart.

Speaker 1 When it came to politics, it was a time of Nixon.

Speaker 1 And passions were really high at the time of Nixon.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, the fights would have edges, but not fangs. I never, ever thought my family was falling apart because of some political argument.
And they didn't agree on thing.

Speaker 1 You know, they would, they would argue, they'd roll their eyes, they'd, you know,

Speaker 1 pop each other's balloons. But then, and it was usually my grandmother, somebody would say, dinner's ready, and the whole thing would dissolve.

Speaker 1 into, you know, the sound of clattering plates and the same old stories.

Speaker 1 And it was over.

Speaker 1 And then we'd get together again and they'd do it again. And then dinner's ready and it would all be over.
It's weird how things have changed now.

Speaker 1 But I've been thinking about it and I think

Speaker 1 politics was not

Speaker 1 the sacred altar that it is now. Washington was not the center of our personal universe.
Family was, community was. How we treated each other was.

Speaker 1 You know, we had room to be wrong, room to disagree, room to be human.

Speaker 1 I I saw something yesterday.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Kimmel's wife was on, let's see, We Can Do Hard Things, the podcast.

Speaker 1 And she was on, and

Speaker 1 she's now distancing her pro-Trump relatives, family members. And she said, it hurts me so much because of the personal relationship I have now where my husband is out there fighting this man.

Speaker 1 I personalize everything. When I see these terrible stories every day, I'm immediately mad at certain aunts and uncles and cousins who put him in power, and that's really, really super hard.
Wow.

Speaker 1 She personalizes everything.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's not politics. That's something well beyond politics.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 The personalization. My husband is out there fighting this man.
Fighting? Why? did was that his choice who elected him to fight was he drafted did he choose the fight

Speaker 1 and yeah trump has thrown jabs back but as a guy who's thrown jabs at trump he hits hard he hits really hard but he doesn't ever strike first

Speaker 1 you know and i know i guess it's your job

Speaker 1 I guess, to throw punches at the president. That was his job, but they weren't good spirited.
They were mean-spirited. And so, of course, the president's going to punch back.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, the scale tilts both ways when you're doing that one. And, and, and, you know, what's weird is

Speaker 1 she went on to say that this was like, well, but he's a very important figure in the world. Yeah, he is.
He's the president of the United States. But I don't know if you know this.

Speaker 1 Your husband's not a nobody.

Speaker 1 You know, he's not taking, you know, you're not punching tickets on the back of a subway.

Speaker 1 When did host of a national late night show on a network stop being a powerful platform?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I'm very angry. I'm very angry and mad at my aunts and uncles and cousins who put him into power.
Mad at them? You're really mad at them.

Speaker 1 Not puzzled, not curious, you're mad.

Speaker 1 As if the act of voting differently is a personal betrayal. Well, you said you personalize everything.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 as if a disagreement is an act of violence. I'm mad at you.
Why? Because we see the world through a different lens? Is that why you're mad at me?

Speaker 1 You're mad at me because I shop at different grocery stores than Hollywood does? Because I live in a red state instead of a blue zip code?

Speaker 1 Is that why you're mad at me?

Speaker 1 Can I ask you, why is it so important, especially to the left, but it is to the right too. Why is it so important to us that everyone sees the world exactly the way we do? I don't understand that.

Speaker 1 I really don't get it. I mean,

Speaker 1 if I'm mad at somebody and I disagree with somebody,

Speaker 1 I'm going to now tell you you have to be mad at them and you have to disagree, or you're just like them.

Speaker 1 You're a problem. This, or you're going to live in a universe of one.
Only you are living in that universe.

Speaker 1 And by the way, when you're mad at somebody, Molly, I mean, you know, you've been living in California. I'm just guessing, but I'm guessing you vote for Gavin Newsom over and over and over again.

Speaker 1 And I don't hate you for it. I don't even think you're stupid.
I am, I am really confused by you and your neighbors and the reasoning sometimes, but that's your right. That's America.

Speaker 1 You know, I don't demand that you think like me. I don't grieve, you know, my

Speaker 1 relatives, you know, I don't hate them because they don't agree with me. We hash it out.
We roll our eyes and then pass the potatoes, will you?

Speaker 1 I mean, I have lots of people in my family that disagree. Lots of them disagree with me.

Speaker 1 I'm not mad at them for that. Not at all.
I learned from them.

Speaker 1 You say you're aligned with values. Good.
Great.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about values for a second. Here's one value that we all used to share.
The value of accepting that other people, even family, even people you love, are allowed to be wrong.

Speaker 1 They're allowed to fail. They're allowed to see a world through a different prism.

Speaker 1 You know?

Speaker 1 This belief that everybody who doesn't agree with you, they're somehow or another misinformed, that they're somehow lesser,

Speaker 1 that if they don't vote the way you want, they're not voting for your family. That's not democracy.
That's the seed of authoritarian thinking.

Speaker 1 It's the little voice that whispers that the world would be better if people like you just made all the decisions for everybody else.

Speaker 1 And that grow, that voice grows and grows and grows if you feed it you know let me just ask you this if that's what you think

Speaker 1 how does that end

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 1 i have to be mad at them because they don't see it my way okay

Speaker 1 does that circle keep growing because what do you do do you force them eventually to see it your way because if you've tried to convince them and they can't be convinced your choice really is love them or

Speaker 1 force them into silence, force them, shame them, shun them,

Speaker 1 strip their voting rights away from them. I mean, all of these choices, it gets worse and worse from there.

Speaker 1 You try to convince them, and if they don't see it your way, you shrug your shoulders and say, pass the potatoes.

Speaker 1 Am I wrong on that? I mean, we're all headed towards Thanksgiving. We're all headed for one of these showdowns.
We know it. All right.
How are you going to react this year?

Speaker 1 Because history shows there's only one road those impulses drive towards, and it's not one lined with liberty trees. Let's just say that.

Speaker 1 You know, you accuse your family of choosing a dictator,

Speaker 1 but did you notice what Gavin Newsom was doing during COVID? Did you see that one?

Speaker 1 No, because the ends justified the means. It was totally okay to take religious people.
And if we have to throw them in jail, we'll throw them in jail.

Speaker 1 I mean, people like him him and he was even talking about, you know what, maybe we should pick these people up. We deny them medical care if they don't take the jab.
Wait, what?

Speaker 1 This, when you don't see it on your own side, because I see it on my side. I do.
I see it on my side. Stu and I talk about it all the time.
We are watching Donald Trump like a hawk.

Speaker 1 You start messing with the Constitution. We're all over you.

Speaker 1 I see it on our side. I see how it can happen.
I don't want it to happen. I'll stand up.
I'll be with you if it starts to happen.

Speaker 1 But if you can't recognize it on your own side, that blindness is how free nations lose their footing.

Speaker 1 And when you say that them voting for Trump is them not voting for your husband, again, can I just ask gently, was he running for something? Because

Speaker 1 I wasn't aware he was on the ballot. I didn't know.
I just thought he was a bad talk show host. In my opinion, a bad talk show host.
You write for him. You're a producer.

Speaker 1 I'm sure you, well, you're also married to him. So you love him.
But if that's the standard, none of us stand a chance. Okay.
And by the way,

Speaker 1 I'm on the air every single day. I have a family that disagrees with me.
They're still my family. I love them.
They love me.

Speaker 1 Politics, you know, shouldn't break what God and blood and history has put together, you know?

Speaker 1 So let's go back to values. Humility is one.
Humility.

Speaker 1 That's the ballast ballast that keeps the nation steady.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they were very upset when they were going to be canceled. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, now you know what it feels like, huh? Now you know exactly what it feels like.

Speaker 1 I'm not for that. I stood up for your husband.
I don't think that he should be canceled.

Speaker 1 But you guys did make a creative choice. You turned a late-night comedy show into a message machine.
And that's your right.

Speaker 1 And had it worked, you would have rightly received the applause, okay? Had you reinvented the whole thing and now you're like, you know what?

Speaker 1 Now it's number one and it's breaking all kinds of records because I'm telling people what to think.

Speaker 1 If it would have worked, you would have gotten the praise for it. When it doesn't work, responsibility comes with the same door that credit would have walked through.

Speaker 1 So I'm just saying. And actually,

Speaker 1 I'm glad you were on

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I didn't know anything about that podcast, and I'm not really interested in listening, but I did read enough to help understand you a little bit more and your husband. And

Speaker 1 it is just revealing what's happening in tens of millions of homes all over.

Speaker 1 The sorrow and the strain and the belief that the political is now the personal and the disagreement is an attack and the family is conditional. And

Speaker 1 it's heartbreaking because that's not who we were. It's not who we were.
And if that's who we want to be, then,

Speaker 1 you know, we're never going to fix this thing. But I think we can fix it.
Now, your husband, Sho, on the other hand, I don't think we can fix that. Stu, do you think we can fix that?

Speaker 2 I don't think so. I mean, I think it's theoretically fixable.
Do I think it's going to happen? No.

Speaker 2 You know, I feel like with Kimmel, the sort of conservative shorthand is that he's not funny. And like, I actually don't even think that's true.
I think there was a time he was pretty funny.

Speaker 2 I just think that he made a choice choice that you just described to totally change what he's doing into this other thing, which is just try to come up with the same five jokes on Donald Trump every night.

Speaker 2 And, you know, I don't think he's funny doing that. But I think, you know, if you go back to his early career, maybe even early on the Kimmel show, I think some of that stuff was funny.

Speaker 2 I just think he abandoned it, which is a choice.

Speaker 1 The easiest thing to do is, you know, we did this, do, when we were young.

Speaker 1 and we got into this. We got into this to make fun of those people who took themselves so seriously.

Speaker 1 Right? Yeah. I mean, that was my biggest thing.
And, you know, number one rule on this show is make fun of me. Because if I can't take it, then I shouldn't be dishing it out.
So make fun of me.

Speaker 1 That is the number one rule. Hit me as hard as you possibly can.

Speaker 1 The second is, you know, don't take yourself so seriously. And that one we struggle with.
That one is really hard. You get into this position and you're like, well, you know what?

Speaker 1 I have a responsibility.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess you do.

Speaker 1 I mean, we do when we take it seriously, but we shouldn't take ourselves so seriously. And I think that's the problem.
He takes himself so seriously.

Speaker 1 Dude, you are talking to people who are watching you through their feet.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 It's true. The glimmering blue light is lighting up their toes as he makes these jokes.

Speaker 2 That's a good point. That's a good point.
It's a good way of looking at it. I do think that's important because it's because obviously if you don't take yourself seriously at all,

Speaker 2 especially when you're in a role where you're talking about the news and analysis and stuff,

Speaker 2 you have to do some of that. You have to at least try

Speaker 2 to get to real answers. But if you over-inflate what you're doing and the impact that you're having, you will make choices that make your show suck.
That is something that is completely true.

Speaker 2 We've seen it before. We've seen people that we know that have made those choices before.

Speaker 1 I'm sure we have many, many times.

Speaker 1 We did and we saw how it tubed the show.

Speaker 1 When you get to a place where you're like, you know what? I have the answer and everybody else is wrong. You're, you're done.
You're done. You know, you just can't.

Speaker 1 We need to take our jobs seriously, but not take ourselves so seriously. And I don't think he takes his job seriously because that's not what a TV late night show is.
You know, it's not a classroom.

Speaker 2 Glenn, in these serious times.

Speaker 2 You have to change it. You have to.

Speaker 2 In times like this, with a tyrant like this, you must.

Speaker 2 It's like they all go through the same process.

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Speaker 1 It's Veterans Day, and I want to speak to one person right now.

Speaker 1 You.

Speaker 1 the one who raised a hand and swore an oath that didn't end when your enlistment did.

Speaker 1 It was an oath that was older than your commanding officer, older than the branch you served in,

Speaker 1 older even than the nation itself, because what you swore to defend was not a government.

Speaker 1 Unlike every other oath that every military man takes all over the world, you swore an oath to an idea.

Speaker 1 And today, in a country that sometimes feels dizzy from spinning arguments,

Speaker 1 I think we should pause and anchor ourselves again to you,

Speaker 1 to the men and women who tethered this republic to reality when the storms came.

Speaker 1 We have an amazing story.

Speaker 1 If you really know the story of Lexington, where the farmers just left their plows in their damp fields because liberty whispered their names, they met at their church, their preacher led them out, they didn't have a chance of winning.

Speaker 1 I think of the Marines who fought through the gas and the mud until the Germans called them devil dogs.

Speaker 1 The beaches of Normandy where boys who had never even seen France saw eternity in a single morning on a single beach.

Speaker 1 The men who fought in Korea,

Speaker 1 Vietnam, Kuwait, Fallujah, the skies over Baghdad.

Speaker 1 Every generation has a chapter that is written in blood and grit.

Speaker 1 And it was written by people who never asked for a statue. All they wanted was a chance to come home.

Speaker 1 And some didn't.

Speaker 1 Their stories end on foreign soil or carved into white markers and rows so straight it almost breaks you.

Speaker 1 But their gift to us never ends.

Speaker 1 At least as long as we remember them and you.

Speaker 1 Because every

Speaker 1 free breath we take is borrowed from them and you.

Speaker 1 If you're a veteran listening right now,

Speaker 1 maybe you came home to a grateful nation.

Speaker 1 Maybe you quietly slipped into civilian life, wondered if anybody saw the weight that you were carrying.

Speaker 1 No matter your circumstance, know this,

Speaker 1 as you need to know this.

Speaker 1 Millions see you.

Speaker 1 Millions are grateful.

Speaker 1 You changed the destiny of my children, and they will never know your name.

Speaker 1 You changed

Speaker 1 my life in ways you will never understand.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be able to be here and say these things if it weren't for you.

Speaker 1 We take all of this so lightly.

Speaker 1 It was you that stood between tyranny and those who couldn't defend themselves.

Speaker 1 You kept the promise most citizens, like me, we never make, never have to make, because you already did.

Speaker 1 And you continue to do so.

Speaker 1 It's amazing to me when you are off into war, most times, not every time,

Speaker 1 we think about you all the time.

Speaker 1 We want to give you the very best when you're at war. And then you come home and it's kind of like, meh,

Speaker 1 and you have the worst of our health care.

Speaker 1 I mean, you might as well go to Canada to get the health care. I mean, it's

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's any better up there.

Speaker 1 We're not really good at saying thank you.

Speaker 1 Let me just take just a second to say it plainly and clearly to you.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you for walking into the unknown when the rest of us stayed home.

Speaker 1 I don't know what your motivation

Speaker 1 was when you joined.

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Speaker 1 Thank you for the kids you didn't see born because you were someplace else.

Speaker 1 Thank you for the friends you still mourn.

Speaker 1 That's why you did it.

Speaker 1 Because you're a brotherhood.

Speaker 1 Thank you, and all your brothers.

Speaker 1 Thank you for every scar,

Speaker 1 the ones we can see, and the ones we will never see.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank all of the families.

Speaker 1 Thank you for what you've done, the quiet platoon behind every soldier, and sailor, and airman, and marine, and coast guardsman, because you served too.

Speaker 1 Freedom has always been a family burden, and look at what those families are like. They're usually remarkable.

Speaker 1 We live in a world right now that feels really loud and divided and suspicious, and it is.

Speaker 1 But I just wanted to take a minute on this day

Speaker 1 and let everything just be quiet.

Speaker 1 Gratitude has a way of silencing nonsense.

Speaker 1 And I want you to know how grateful

Speaker 1 I am.

Speaker 1 So before we got back into the headlines again, before the noise rises back up,

Speaker 1 let me end this with the only words that really matter.

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Speaker 1 your country remembers you,

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Speaker 1 and your country is grateful in a way language will never quite capture.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

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Speaker 1 All right, so there's a couple of things. Stu, I'd love to get your feeling.

Speaker 1 Fox News, Laura Ingram, just did a really good interview with Donald Trump, and

Speaker 1 she asked Trump to defend the 600,000 Chinese students in the U.S. I want you to listen to this.
I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Speaker 7 You've said as many as 600,000 Chinese students could come to the United States.

Speaker 7 Why, sir, is that a pro-maga position when so many American kids want to go to school and there are places not for them and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money?

Speaker 8 Sure.

Speaker 8 Never said about China, but we do have a lot of people coming in from China. We always have China and other countries.
We also have a massive system of colleges and universities.

Speaker 8 And if we were to cut that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you would have half the colleges in the United States go out of business.

Speaker 8 Well, I think that's a big deal. Are they familiar with the business? You would have the historical...

Speaker 8 Yeah, but you would have, as you know, historically, black colleges and universities would all be out of business.

Speaker 8 You would have a system of colleges

Speaker 8 and universities would be out of the world.

Speaker 7 So we're dependent on China to keep our universities.

Speaker 8 But I think it's good to have, I actually think it's good to have outside countries. Look, I want to be able to get along with the world.

Speaker 7 They're not the French. They're the Chinese.
They spy on us. They steal our intellectual property.

Speaker 8 Do you think the French are better? Yeah.

Speaker 8 Really? I don't know. I'll tell you.
I'm not so sure. We've had a lot of problems with the French, where we get taxed very unfairly on our technology, where they put 25% taxes on American products.

Speaker 8 Look, assuming everyone treats us badly, because that's the way I am, but we take in trillions of dollars from students.

Speaker 8 You know, the students pay more than double when they come in from most foreign countries.

Speaker 8 I want to see our school system thrive, but at the same time, I want to be, I know you and I disagree. We're never going to agree on it, but that's okay.

Speaker 8 And it's not that I want them, but I view it as a business.

Speaker 1 What do you think of that?

Speaker 2 That's an interesting clip. I think she pushes him pretty hard on it, which is...
I know.

Speaker 1 I think she did a great job. The best she could.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And look, I think I generally understand his position there and that, you know, I don't I know a lot of people do.

Speaker 2 I don't consider it a negative to have people coming in the country that are coming here legally and ideally here to make America better.

Speaker 2 I think the problem is when you start importing people that are, as Laura outlined there, oftentimes, and this has been documented pretty clearly, stealing our technology.

Speaker 2 I mean, the whole rare earth issue issue was caused largely by that.

Speaker 2 I mean, not by students, but by Chinese industry coming in and buying up a bunch of the technology and bringing it back and making it so that we no longer had a massive advantage on that technology.

Speaker 2 So I think that's a concern. I think

Speaker 2 bringing in people is fine in my mind, but it is important to find, you know, to

Speaker 2 be a little bit more deliberative on how you're deciding who's allowed to come in and do these things. It's not just about money.
I think it's just purely a business.

Speaker 1 I think that's fair. I think the better argument here is,

Speaker 1 why are we letting them fund our universities? And I'm not talking about through students.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about billions of dollars that have been sent to our universities to do, you know, the China studies, where they control a lot of our universities. I don't want any of that.
No.

Speaker 1 I don't want any of that. I don't want them beholden.
I don't want our... The problem is not with China.
The problem is with our universities.

Speaker 1 That's the real problem.

Speaker 1 And by the way, I mean, I don't think any, I'd love to see the number of Chinese students at Howard University. I don't know.

Speaker 1 That one kind of, yeah, that one kind of, that one kind of fell apart,

Speaker 1 that argument. But,

Speaker 1 you know, the problem is with the universities and what else are they doing? I don't have a problem educating the world. You know, if we have the best, we have the best.
I don't think we do. do.

Speaker 1 You know, but I don't know anybody who's better, quite honestly. So maybe we do.
It's just a giant crap heap of education all around the world.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 the universities are just as hostile to America as the Chinese are.

Speaker 2 I, yeah, I think that's at least some of them. That's definitely true.
When you think about

Speaker 2 the way the university system is set up, you know, the very, very top are oftentimes the biggest offenders, right? And we are oftentimes bringing these people in.

Speaker 2 We are not giving them what we would talk about as

Speaker 2 the type of education and life that is going to endear them to America and make them believe that America is the better path, right?

Speaker 2 I mean, the theory behind all of this is, I think, relatively okay, which is you bring in people who are the most talented people in the world.

Speaker 2 They come in, they make your country better, they fall in love with America. That's the way it was for a long time.

Speaker 2 This is not like some millions of people.

Speaker 1 You have a problem with now.

Speaker 1 You're sending 600,000 people over to the United States. And, you know, you imagine if they would have done that with the Soviet Union, how many people would have defected? Right.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And that's the thing.
I think you have to take it seriously. I don't think, you know, you're bringing in someone.
There is a line there between France and Canada.

Speaker 2 Excuse me, China. China is an adversary.
Like they are, they have, I mean, we've uncovered these plans before. They are legitimately doing these things intentionally.

Speaker 2 The Confucius Institute being one of them, a lot of this has been caught and somewhat reversed, but a lot of that influence is still happening. These are intentional plans by an adversary.

Speaker 2 You don't have to play into those.

Speaker 2 And that's, I think, the line between them there a little bit that she's trying to illuminate. Like, we don't have to play into the plans that are designed to sink our country.

Speaker 2 And I would argue that TikTok is an even better version of this attack plan, which we have allowed

Speaker 2 to permeate not just colleges, but down to kids that are 8, 9, 10, 11 years old.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 2 So we don't have to play those games if we don't want to.

Speaker 1 And it's not just China. I mean, I don't have a problem bringing people in from Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 1 I do have a problem with people who want to change the world into Sharia law, you know, and a Muslim caliphate. I got a problem with those people.
I don't, I don't, no, thank you.

Speaker 1 I don't need you here.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Yeah, and if they do come, let's keep them out of pilot school.

Speaker 1 This diabolical place. And what did you say?

Speaker 2 I would argue if they do come, let's keep them out of pilot school. I just, you know, just one minor,

Speaker 2 minor line. And we can have different lines for different countries.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But yeah, flight school is not the place for them. But I would say that, you know, there is a, you're right.
Like

Speaker 2 there are good individual people in all of these places that could help the United United States. We know this.
It's happened forever.

Speaker 2 It's been a big part of that, you know, the idea that diversity is our strength is insane. It's not, that's not what it has nothing to do with diversity.

Speaker 2 But what it does have to do is taking in the best individuals from around the world, in addition to all the great things that we have here.

Speaker 2 It's made us a better, you know, it's made us a better country over the years. We've been able to attract the best talent and the best people to come here and build things.

Speaker 2 A lot of, I mean, Elon Musk is an example of this, right? Like, Elon Musk is not an American. He came here.
He loves America. He loves American principles.

Speaker 2 He believes in the country, and he's built incredible things here. And like, that's.

Speaker 1 And he became an American.

Speaker 2 And he became an American, right? I mean, he wasn't an American at birth, excuse me.

Speaker 2 But that's not the path that we're talking about with many of these students from China. They're coming in with a totally different idea.

Speaker 2 They're taking our incredible education and all the great things that we have here, and then going back and creating plans that are adversarial to this country. That's a totally different thing.

Speaker 2 We don't have to allow that.

Speaker 1 We don't have to play that game. And they're also buying up all of the best trailer parks

Speaker 1 in America. You see in the newsletter today, you get our free email newsletter at GlennBack.com.
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Speaker 1 And one of the stories is, I think it's a trailer park.

Speaker 1 The Chinese just bought up all this land right next to where we developed the B-2 bombers. What, what what what

Speaker 2 well it's going to be cheaper land those are loud planes climb and uh so you got to get a good deal it's hard to sell

Speaker 1 hard to sell only the chinese uh you know are willing to buy that well can we can we stop this i mean how what is wrong with us is there no one with common sense at all anymore

Speaker 1 anyone bueller anybody

Speaker 1 Apparently not. Apparently not.
Because everybody, you know what it is? Everybody with common sense, they're in Washington opening the government back up today. And

Speaker 1 they got a really good special deal going on because we're not going to have this problem again until

Speaker 1 January. Mark my words.
Next year, I hope this is wrong. Gosh, I hope this is wrong.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 next year, this worked well for the Democrats and it hurts the economy. Why not just keep doing this all next year? Open, close, open, close.
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Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 we talked about healthcare,

Speaker 1 the government opening up the

Speaker 1 government's opening up again. Yay.

Speaker 1 So we get all that great stuff that they do.

Speaker 1 And it's all about healthcare. And they're going to close it down again in January.
And

Speaker 1 I said earlier today in hour number one, I did

Speaker 1 several monologues on healthcare, what's really going on.

Speaker 1 And I think healthcare is the one place that if Donald Trump really wanted to make a difference in people's lives, this would be the fastest way to do it.

Speaker 1 You know, the world has changed since 2016. He could move things faster.
We We had more things at our disposal, and now he's got to make long-term decisions, which he's making all over the world.

Speaker 1 He's making all these deals.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 the fastest way to make an impact in people's lives is to take care of health care. And

Speaker 1 it's not a government subsidy that's going to do it.

Speaker 1 It's getting rid of Obamacare, quite honestly.

Speaker 1 And I said, I think that RFK

Speaker 1 is probably the guy who could probably help with that. I mean, at least they're thinking about doing things.

Speaker 1 I know that I talked to Dr. Oz and they're pushing something through the States here soon.
We should get them on

Speaker 1 to talk about it because I was excited about what I heard, but what little I heard about. But, you know, we worry about all of these things with our health care.

Speaker 1 And we, you know, we worry about what are we putting into ourselves? All this stuff that we're, you know, we're putting into our bodies now.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we got to care about, you know, toxins and ingredients and clean and, you know, stop our dirty eating and all of this stuff.

Speaker 1 We look at our health care and we notice our, we're talking about our food and what we're putting in our food and what we're putting in our bodies because we're seeing that we're really an unhealthy

Speaker 1 people.

Speaker 1 And what is doing that? And meanwhile, we are shoveling toxins into our brains like there is no tomorrow. We just do not look at what we are shoveling into our minds.
We have the endless scrolling,

Speaker 1 you know, the buzzing phones, the bite-sized videos, the shallow feeds, all of this crap. We are ingesting toxins of the mind.

Speaker 1 It's fair and vital to talk about, you know, what are we doing to our bodies, but you know,

Speaker 1 if our body is the temple of life,

Speaker 1 this is the command center. This is the one that's calling all the shots of what our bodies are doing.

Speaker 1 You know, what happens when we, you know, feed our minds, you know, low nutrient, high engagement, shallow junk?

Speaker 1 I'm going someplace with this,

Speaker 1 and it's going to blow your mind.

Speaker 1 The average person spends two hours and 21 minutes a day on social media. That's the average person.

Speaker 1 Two hours and 21 minutes a day on social media. Approximately 141 minutes every single day scrolling.

Speaker 1 The average American

Speaker 1 are on-screen time overall. The average American spends six hours and 38 minutes every day on screens connected to the internet.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Time just gone. Just vanished into

Speaker 1 what?

Speaker 1 Updates, scrolls. What is it that we're reading?

Speaker 1 Seriously.

Speaker 1 Are we exercising our soul with deep thought? Do you know that leisure reading in the U.S. has fallen? Only 16% of Americans age 15 plus read for their own enjoyment on an average day.
15.

Speaker 1 That number was almost 30% in 2003.

Speaker 1 Fewer books. U.S.
adults in 2021 said they read on average 12.6 books a year down from 15 in 2002 to 2016.

Speaker 1 So we're losing reading skills. We're losing deeper thought.

Speaker 1 We're losing hours of conversation. We're losing how many hours of reflection? at least minutes, maybe a hundred minutes.
Our attention spans.

Speaker 1 How long can you focus on something? You know, the second screen was different.

Speaker 1 When we first started Blaze, I talked about doing second screen technology, and it wasn't because you couldn't watch something.

Speaker 1 They're now talking about taking your TV show or your Netflix show and dumbing it down so much

Speaker 1 because people are watching or they're scrolling while they're watching the TV and so they can't follow a complex storyline.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh, we are just going to be just stupid slugs.

Speaker 1 Everything that we're doing online is

Speaker 1 fracturing attention, memory, and sustained reasoning. So at what point does this become an epidemic?

Speaker 1 At what point are our minds starving for any kind of nutrition as we just feed them calories of noise?

Speaker 1 Now let me tell you

Speaker 1 the real story.

Speaker 1 AI is holding a mirror up for us.

Speaker 1 There's a new study that came out. LLMs

Speaker 1 can get brain rot.

Speaker 1 Okay, that caught my eye. Large language models, LLMs.

Speaker 1 They are trained on junk web

Speaker 1 content. So viral, shallow, high engagement stuff.

Speaker 1 And all it does is it's just cataloging all this stuff and just consuming all of this stuff that we're scrolling through every day. Okay.

Speaker 1 Do you know what's happening to the LLM?

Speaker 1 It's experiencing cognitive decline.

Speaker 1 It can't, its reasoning ability is dropping, falling through the floor. Long context memory, gone.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 dark personality traits,

Speaker 1 psychopathic tendencies, and narcissism has increased. This is with an AI, okay?

Speaker 1 And when the junk content ratio rose from 0 to 100%,

Speaker 1 if you're just scrolling for junk, the reasoning benchmark falls from 75% to almost 55%.

Speaker 1 Its ability to understand long, you know, long

Speaker 1 form

Speaker 1 context falls from 85%

Speaker 1 to about 50%.

Speaker 1 Now, here's the scariest part.

Speaker 1 They caught this and they're like, holy cow, look at what's happening to the large language model. It's completely decaying.

Speaker 1 You know, we've just been doing this for a year now, and look at what's happened. It's not reasoning anymore.
It's turning dark.

Speaker 1 It can't understand long form content anymore.

Speaker 1 let's get it off that let's start putting good clean stuff into it even after retraining on clean high quality data the models never recover the baseline capacity

Speaker 1 okay the rot remains

Speaker 1 As a man or now as a machine thinketh, so he becomes.

Speaker 1 I've been blown away by this study for the last few weeks. It came out a couple of weeks ago, and I had it on my desk, and I've wanted to tell you about it, and just haven't had time.

Speaker 1 And it's just, it's just, it just keeps, I just keep thinking, this is a machine. This isn't, this is not our brain.
This is, this is a machine that is

Speaker 1 using the same kind of crap. I mean,

Speaker 1 what happens if you don't monitor what you think?

Speaker 1 Or worse yet, when we stop thinking?

Speaker 1 AI is teaching us a lesson, and I guarantee this study's been out for weeks. Never heard it, did you?

Speaker 1 Nobody's talking about it. It's screaming at us, hey, learn a lesson.

Speaker 1 When you feed nothing but low-nutrient, attention-hooking, high-engagement junk, the capacity to reason, to remember, and to care degrades.

Speaker 1 Aren't we seeing this now?

Speaker 1 Do people care as much as they used to? Nope. Can they reason? Nope.

Speaker 1 Can they remember what happened yesterday? Nope.

Speaker 1 My gosh, don't worry about AI taking over, controlling us, programming our lives. Look at ourselves.

Speaker 1 We've already signed over our lives to an algorithm.

Speaker 1 We're studying AI brain rot.

Speaker 1 But is anybody studying, you know, brain, brain rot?

Speaker 1 Maybe, maybe, maybe we do recognize it. Maybe we do recognize it.
But, you know, we're too apathetic to wean ourselves off the digital heroin. It's hard.
It is hard.

Speaker 1 But when the nature of what we ingest for body and mind becomes shallow, the body suffers, but the mind sinks deeper.

Speaker 1 And we live in an age where we might be less full of nourishment, but full of distraction. We talk less.
We actually listen less. We read fewer books, you know,

Speaker 1 where our minds just flit instead of dive. Our attention span is almost gone.
And make no mistake. This is not just a matter of convenience or lifestyle.

Speaker 1 This is creeping into the structure of who we are individually and collectively. What is this going to do to

Speaker 1 our children? I mean, even if we stopped right now and we wanted to change,

Speaker 1 we, according to the Brain Rot study, we won't get that baseline back. Do we pass this stuff on? Is it get to a point to where we're just pumping out morons?

Speaker 1 I mean, we're already doing that, but I mean, you know. I mean, really pumping out morons.

Speaker 1 At what point is this an epidemic where anybody even recognizes it?

Speaker 1 When is it where our ability to think critically is so diminished, we cannot be a free people? Are we there yet?

Speaker 1 I told you earlier, I went to the bookstore yesterday. My son and I went to the bookstore and I was like, we're getting books.

Speaker 1 I was, I haven't read. I've been reading online.
It's not the same. It's just not the same.

Speaker 1 You can't remember because you remember sometimes with your fingers. You remember where it is in the book.
You know, I can never find anything digitally. I can never find where it is in the book.

Speaker 1 I'm looking for it. I can't find it.
But I know right where those facts are if I'm reading a physical copy of a book.

Speaker 1 And, you know, deep reading, quiet reflection, sustained dialogue, pretty rare. Pretty rare.
Our mental health. Our social health,

Speaker 1 you know, kind of going down. You know, civic health eroded a little bit.
I think we all agree with that.

Speaker 1 Even when artificial intelligence is trained on junk content, degrade in reason,

Speaker 1 we still feed ourselves the same thing.

Speaker 1 Are we going to keep doing that? Are we going to choose to do something different? Well, the first thing is we got to get people to understand it.

Speaker 1 We got to get people, can we get people to even under? Can we really?

Speaker 1 Can we get people to actually listen to this?

Speaker 1 And then engage again in thoughtful reading and conversation and meaningful silence.

Speaker 1 It starts with awareness and then choice. What do you permit?

Speaker 1 What are you going to put into your body? What do you permit into your mind?

Speaker 1 Otherwise, one day we're all going to look around and we're going to realize we didn't just lose time. We lost the capacity to deeply think and deeply connect, deeply live.

Speaker 1 Or then again, maybe we're just so stupid and shallow that we won't know. We're like, I'm happy.
Are you happy? I can't. What was the question? I was, what are you at? What are you saying?

Speaker 1 Maybe that's, I mean, maybe that's, maybe that's better life.

Speaker 1 I love my family. I don't know who my family is, but I love them.

Speaker 1 Politic. I don't vote.
I vote for a long time.

Speaker 1 Look at what's on YouTube.

Speaker 1 Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 2 Glenn, so we just to back up what you were just talking about, face-to-face socializing time for all Americans since 2003, down 20%.

Speaker 1 And if you think about just

Speaker 1 wait, wait, what?

Speaker 2 Think about that. Your time just socializing with other people, it down 20% for all Americans over the past 20 years.
But that's not even the craziest part. Younger Americans, it's down 40 to 50%.

Speaker 2 Time spent attending or hosting social events has fallen with about between 50 and 70% among young adults

Speaker 2 since 2003. That's a tough one.

Speaker 1 Think of the damage isolation did with COVID. Just think of that.

Speaker 1 What is this kind of self-imposed isolation?

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