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Bill Gates says climate change will not lead to humanity's demise.

Speaker 2 Pardon me? Wait, hold on just a second. Hold on.

Speaker 2 Let me just go back into the records here and see. Let's see.
What has he said? 2015, climate change is a terrible problem. Absolutely needs to be solved.
Deserves to be a huge priority.

Speaker 2 It is the poorer people in tropical zones who will get hit by climate change, as well as some ecosystems nobody wants to see disappear. The threat of climate change is dire.

Speaker 2 He said that just two years ago. It'll be the greatest challenge the world has ever faced.
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Speaker 2 2021, to avoid climate disaster, we need to eliminate emissions from the ways we create electricity, grow food, make things move around, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 No one will be hurt more from climate change to the world's poorest people.

Speaker 2 It's already worse than most models predicted. To prevent climate change scenarios, we need breakthroughs in key areas.
He's now put billions of dollars behind the climate change movement.

Speaker 2 Now he says,

Speaker 2 not so bad. Not so bad.
Not so bad. What the hell just happened?

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 What just happened? On a completely unrelated note, let me give you another story today.

Speaker 2 Amazon, the first company to say, $30 an hour. You come on in and work at our warehouse and it's $30 an hour.
30 is an interesting number because they just yesterday laid off 30,000 people.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 2 Because they're going AI.

Speaker 2 Okay? It's all going to be automated. Everything.
This is the first. This

Speaker 2 warning.

Speaker 2 This is the first. What do you call that aftershocks when you get the rumbles before the big earthquake? You know, it's like a pre-shock.

Speaker 2 It's, you know, the, just the quick, quiet, very low on the Richter scale rumble. And you're like, what, what was that? What was that? That's an earthquake coming.
Things starting to shift.

Speaker 2 Just a little bit. Not the big one yet.
Just a little bit. Just a little shift.
Didn't shows used to use the term birth pangs. Yes.

Speaker 2 Birth pangs. Yeah.
It's birth pangs of the things yet to come.

Speaker 2 You're just having that first birth pang. 30,000 people laid off.

Speaker 2 Now, remember, gosh, think of the money they're saving because they were paying everybody $30 an hour because they were such a great company.

Speaker 2 They were just, they care about people until they could replace all the people.

Speaker 2 Now, why am I bringing that story up next to the Bill Gates story about climate change?

Speaker 2 What do those stories have? What do they have in common at all?

Speaker 2 Power.

Speaker 2 And I don't mean just political or economic power. Absolutely.
That goes without saying. I mean energy.

Speaker 2 The world is starving for energy.

Speaker 2 I've got a story for you next hour and I'm going to show you exactly where you have to be, whether you're for climate climate change, you know, you're,

Speaker 2 we got to go all green or we got to go all in on, you know, server farms. One way or another, I will tell you what you have to do and it is imperative that you do it.
Next hour.

Speaker 2 But here's what snapped together today.

Speaker 2 We have been seeing this movement, and I know that the world is about to change.

Speaker 2 And our system doesn't work. The two parties don't work.
It doesn't cover everything.

Speaker 2 We have been fighting over communism or fascism. Both of them are wrong.
Okay. They don't work.

Speaker 2 And they've been sold exactly the same way over and over, except

Speaker 2 global warming. Global warming has been the one thing that has not been out and out Marxist until it had to be.
And then you're like, okay, yeah, all right. We want people to die.

Speaker 2 We want people to die because it'll save the earth. So we're absolutely, you know, anti-growth.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Pretty easy to see what side you're on. At least for me, pretty easy to see what side you're on.
I am for growth. I am for technology.
I am for

Speaker 2 an end to this global warming nonsense, except I am also pro-earth. I think

Speaker 2 we have a responsibility to make sure we do things that are right for the earth.

Speaker 2 I am absolutely pro-pharmaceuticals until I'm not pro-sop pharmaceuticals because I think the pharmaceutical companies have gotten out of control.

Speaker 2 I am absolutely for doing everything we can with our farmers to be able to have them grow and grow food to feed the world until we start screwing with the food so much it's not really even meat anymore.

Speaker 2 And we don't really know where it's from.

Speaker 2 So am I for big ag or against big ag?

Speaker 2 Because I like parts of it. I don't like parts.

Speaker 2 Am I for the pharmaceutical companies or against the pharmaceutical companies? Because I like the pharmaceutical companies until I don't like the pharmaceutical companies.

Speaker 2 Am I for the planet or against the planet? I like AI, but I'm also terrified of AI. Am I for AI or against AI?

Speaker 2 I am for jobs. I am for people.

Speaker 2 So how can you be for people if you are for AI?

Speaker 2 Do you see how none of this works? You see how you are, you are literally, we are already dividing ourselves into, we're being pulled apart. We don't know.

Speaker 2 I've got another thing I'm going to do next hour after I tell you the other thing next hour. Hope to get to this other thing where you don't know what the truth is anymore.

Speaker 2 We are pulling ourselves completely apart, right?

Speaker 2 You don't know what the truth is, you don't know what to believe anymore. Did Erica kill her husband, Charlie Kirk?

Speaker 2 Please.

Speaker 2 But there are a lot of people who don't know. They don't know the truth.
Why? Why don't they know the truth? Because people who don't believe in anything

Speaker 2 will fall for everything.

Speaker 2 And we don't know what we believe anymore.

Speaker 2 We don't elect Mom Dani?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
New York is going Marxist, maybe Islamist to some degree. It's going that way.
It's going to happen. So how is that going to work?

Speaker 2 Hmm.

Speaker 2 I brought in a chalkboard because I was explaining this to Stu. And Stu, I want you to

Speaker 2 help me with this because as I was laying this out for you, it's because it's,

Speaker 2 I want you to know I've divided this chalkboard into two categories, and they are not good or bad. They just are.
Okay? Because there are things that I like on both sides of the chalkboard.

Speaker 2 But I'm going to show you what you're going to be asked to choose from because these are how these two sides are going to.

Speaker 2 end up in the end. Sort of like a great realignment.
Yes. Okay.
Yes. Okay.

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 on one side we're gonna have the global warming people well i'm not for the global warming people because that's all degrowth right not for that

Speaker 2 but i am for workers

Speaker 2 and i am kind of anti-ai i don't want ai to take over everything and control everything correct right right but i at the same time i am ai and tech driven i just announced something yesterday with AI.

Speaker 2 But I'm for ethical AI.

Speaker 2 Global warming and degrowth. No, I'm for drill, baby, drill.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I am big business, but I'm not big business. I believe in capitalism.
I believe in ethical capitalism, but I don't mind big business.

Speaker 2 But I have a hard time with, I don't know, some of these AI companies like Google and everybody else that now seem to be getting into bed with our government.

Speaker 2 I don't want them in bed with our government. I am.
Go ahead. No, I was going to say, like, you mentioned Amazon, right? Like, Amazon's a good example of this, right?

Speaker 2 You, it is a company that obviously is very much big business, but also seen as like capitalism. Yes.
And like, so do you like that? Do you not like it? I mean, there's things I love about Amazon.

Speaker 2 There's things I don't like.

Speaker 2 I don't like the fact that they are the government server farms. I don't like that.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Big pharma. There's lots of it I like.
Lots of it I don't like.

Speaker 2 I don't like control and digital IDs.

Speaker 2 I'm anti-Marxist, that drill baby drill side, that's anti-Marxist, but it also leans globalist. I'm against that, but it is for abundance.
Growth, growth, growth, growth, abundance, right?

Speaker 2 On the other side, and I'm showing you how these things are going to line up.

Speaker 2 The other side is global warming and degrowth, but it's also going to be pro-workers, anti-AI, anti-capitalist, Marxist, but it's going to de-emphasize degrowth and Marxism. It'll be for real food.

Speaker 2 It will be Maha. It will be local.
It'll be free trade, but not really.

Speaker 2 Fair trade. Maybe.
They call it free trade. Yeah.

Speaker 2 This classic free trade seems to align more with the other side. In the end, it will be

Speaker 2 a local farmer's market. In the end, it'll be your ability to trade with one one another the way you want to trade.

Speaker 2 That's how it'll be sold. And it'll be 15-minute cities.
It'll be 15-minute cities because the rest of the world is going to be AI, digital IDs, globalism, tracking everything.

Speaker 2 And this will become the anti-that.

Speaker 2 And so they'll say, I'll live in the 15-minute cities. Remember, it'll be degrowth and Marxism, but it will be packaged in such a way, we don't want to be that.
We don't want to be that.

Speaker 2 So I'll live in my 15-minute city. I don't need all of that technology.
I don't need self-driving cars. I'd rather know my neighbor.
I'd rather walk down the street, get my food that

Speaker 2 I know I get, but I'm not going to be able to do those things. But I don't want to do all those things because I don't want to have the digital ID.

Speaker 2 Okay?

Speaker 2 What you're going to get on one side, it is in the end going to be globalist and fascistic.

Speaker 2 Global fascism on one side the other side will be Marxist degrowth

Speaker 2 these what I'm presenting to you is pretty much

Speaker 2 especially on the Marxist degrowth side the global warming side that's going to be a utopia that will never survive it will never survive

Speaker 2 but that's the utopia that people are going to be offered they are now going to because global warming is now starting to be you know, a no-go zone.

Speaker 2 It's going to be changed.

Speaker 2 And it's going to become pro-people,

Speaker 2 anti-tech,

Speaker 2 anti-big tech corporations.

Speaker 2 It's going to become about anti-pharmaceutical companies. It'll be about real food.
It'll be about health and Maha.

Speaker 2 It's going to be about all the things that you probably go, I'm kind of for that stuff.

Speaker 2 And the other side is going to be the other side of you that you're for. Well, I'm for capitalism.
I'm for progress. I'm for abundance.
I'm for, you know, having energy.

Speaker 2 This is the split that is coming.

Speaker 2 And I believe the Marxist global warming side is going to be extraordinarily appealing to a lot of people. You may even have a, right now you'll hear this and go, I'm never going there.
Mark my words.

Speaker 2 It's going to be very difficult to see the difference of right and wrong because everything's going to blur on you. Things that you think you're for, they're suddenly going to be for.

Speaker 2 But are they actually for that? And that goes to both sides of this issue because what's not on this chalkboard is the U.S. Constitution.

Speaker 2 This is the way the world will split. These are the choices you're going to make.

Speaker 2 Which way do you go?

Speaker 2 There is a third way and it's the U.S. Constitution.

Speaker 2 That's not on the board because right now that's not popular and no one's talking about it.

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Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Stu, you follow that? Did I explain that well enough? I think so. You know, the visuals help, but for, you know,

Speaker 2 is there, I mean, we need category names almost to make this more simple. I don't know exactly what the category names are.

Speaker 2 I think overall,

Speaker 2 you know, in the end, it'll be fascism-Marxism.

Speaker 2 But that's not the way it's going to be presented. Right.
And what's frustrating about that off growth. Yeah.
What's frustrating, that's interesting because

Speaker 2 what's frustrating to the to trying to explain all this stuff over the years is often you went to the

Speaker 2 train track analogy with the European left and right. Yes.
And that was always, it's always confusing to Americans because it's not a traditional American left and right situation.

Speaker 2 But I think people can feel a realignment going on. A lot of the things that were kind of together at one point are now not.

Speaker 2 And when you look at this sort of split,

Speaker 2 you know, I look at it and I see things that I like on both sides and things that I hate on both sides. Correct.
And so. AI and job loss is going to be the catalyst.
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 You just saw the first little tremor today.

Speaker 2 Amazon

Speaker 2 letting go 30,000 people. That's the beginning.
When people start to lose their jobs en masse, this split is going to become very, very important. And I don't know.

Speaker 2 We didn't, maybe we're going to talk about it more in more in-depth later on, but the thing that sort of caused us discussing this today was a story about Bill Gates, where he was talking about,

Speaker 2 ah, you know, global warming, maybe it's not so catastrophic. What? That's the guy who's been pitching this the entire time.
Billions of dollars. Right.
And maybe it's not that big a deal.

Speaker 2 And it seems like

Speaker 2 that global warming, hey, we

Speaker 2 that global warming attitude, right, can line up well with some of those people, right?

Speaker 2 And so why is that? Why is that all of a sudden, why is global warming not so popular with all those very, very, very, very wealthy and powerful people?

Speaker 2 Because they want server farms. They want server farms.
They need energy. It was not good enough for you to just need heat in your house to build a nuclear power plant.
Right.

Speaker 2 But the minute we started talking about the need for server farms for these giant corporations, all of a sudden, oh, we're going to take all the regulations off of nuclear power plants.

Speaker 2 It's the safest energy in the world. So for a very long time, those people like Bill Gates, those big business guys, were very much aligned with the global warming people.

Speaker 2 And is there a split there now? Like we're like a Gates who is saying, we need the AI, we need the infrastructure.

Speaker 2 They're going to have a split with those people who are like, you know, global warming types traditionally. Dangerous split.

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Speaker 2 Let me move something up. I was going to talk about this next hour, but I think this will help people really understand

Speaker 2 what is coming and why I put this chalkboard together to show you how this is going to shake out in the future and

Speaker 2 why you really need to pay attention to the things that are happening right now. Forget about is Donald Trump going to run in 2028.
He's trolling. Don't you get it? He's trolling.

Speaker 2 So, can we talk about real issues? Let me tell you about the coming blackout.

Speaker 2 Right now, in the last few days, there is a group of lawmakers in the mid-Atlantic, in Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Virginia. They're all sounding the alarm.

Speaker 2 And they're sounding the alarm because they believe, and I do too, that the worst power bill crisis in a generation is happening right now, skyrocketing bills and strained grids.

Speaker 2 How is it this is happening? We've drilled, baby, drilled. We've put new power plants online or old power plants we've brought back online.

Speaker 2 Well, they're saying that part of the problem is all this new green energy crap. And everybody is still saying we've got to have green energy, got to have green energy.

Speaker 2 I just want you to hear me out here for a second because I'm going to give you the reality of what's going on. Green energy is wonderful, I guess, but

Speaker 2 it is absolutely a thing that will set us back a hundred years plus. Okay.

Speaker 2 Green energy does not work for the America of 2000. It certainly doesn't work today.
Every single month, a new server farm is breaking ground somewhere in America.

Speaker 2 Once a month, that means 12 new server farms this year. That is going to snowball.
By the end of 2026, you will be seeing them built and breaking ground maybe one a week.

Speaker 2 What we have so far, not building things small here.

Speaker 2 Each one of these data centers, which is feeding artificial intelligence, crypto, cloud computing, they consume as much power as 50 homes all the time.

Speaker 2 Told you at the beginning of the hour, Bill Gates has just come out and said, you know what? You know, global warming is not as bad as we thought it was.

Speaker 2 It's so laughable because it is so transparent. He's so evil.

Speaker 2 It's not as bad as everybody thought it was. We got to get off this global warming bandwagon.
We've got to do some things, but we need power plants. I'll tell you that right now.
Why?

Speaker 2 Do you know who Bill Gates' partner is? is?

Speaker 2 Open AI.

Speaker 2 Chat GPT.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 That's his partner.

Speaker 2 So we know why he's off this bandwagon because they're struggling right now to find enough electricity for what they're currently running, let alone the next generation of systems.

Speaker 2 You have Google, Meta, Amazon. that are buying up land in every next to every major substation that they can find because they know what's coming.

Speaker 2 But wait a minute, they're building it near substations. Wait, wait, hold on.
Are you taking the power from my home?

Speaker 2 In many cases, yes.

Speaker 2 Listen to this. This is from the International Energy Agency.
This is something they just released. Global data center power will double

Speaker 2 by the end of 2026.

Speaker 2 That is equivalent to adding another Japan

Speaker 2 to our energy demand. Okay.
Another Japan. And that's just for computers and server farms.
Adding Japan.

Speaker 2 What are we building to be able to serve that?

Speaker 2 Not enough.

Speaker 2 Ireland has just begun restricting the new data centers. Now, here's what's going to happen.
You're going to restrict them and it's going to leave you in the past.

Speaker 2 Now, maybe you want to be left in the past, and that's what that chalkboard is about. Maybe you want to be left in the past, but Ireland has just said, no more server farms, we can't do it.

Speaker 2 Parts of the Netherlands, Singapore, Singapore, Sweden, they are freezing construction now on all server farms because their grids can't handle the demand already.

Speaker 2 Tokyo's grid is so strained by the server farms that they have, blackouts have already occurred in Tokyo during peak hours.

Speaker 2 China, which is building a new coal-fire plant every week, is rationing power to factories so they can keep the AI data hubs running.

Speaker 2 So what happens when we shut down coal and stall nuclear and depend on sunshine and windmills? What happens? Who's powering the cloud?

Speaker 2 PJM, this is Mid-Atlantic Grid. PJM is one that runs it, one of the largest in the world.
They say their grid in the Mid-Atlantic is already at the breaking point.

Speaker 2 They have warned, quote, of critically tight capacity. Meaning, one bad storm, one bad heat wave, one bad cold spell, and you've got rolling blackouts.
Okay. Why?

Speaker 2 Because the last administration retired reliable fossil fuel plants faster than we could replace them. We didn't replace them.

Speaker 2 So we're already behind the eight ball. And now the surge and the search for power is on.
In Maryland alone, energy production has dropped as consumption has surged. Why? Because of the data centers.

Speaker 2 Virginia's data center corridor, which is, you know, the economic crown jewel of

Speaker 2 Virginia, this giant data center corridor that happens in Virginia. It now consumes.
Now, today, You're still figuring out what AI does, okay?

Speaker 2 It now consumes one-fifth of Virginia's total energy output. One-fifth today.

Speaker 2 Why is your electricity price going up? Why have eggs gone down? They're back to over a dollar a dozen.

Speaker 2 Why has gas gone down? It's now back to the price it was in 20, what, 18 or 19?

Speaker 2 Why are these prices going down? Yet your energy costs are skyrocketing.

Speaker 2 Chat GPT,

Speaker 2 AI,

Speaker 2 all the things that Amazon just fired 30,000 people because they're going to replace them with electric robots and machines and AI.

Speaker 2 That takes power.

Speaker 2 Imagine, you know, what happens to your price of housing when you import 10 million people. The price of housing goes through the roof and nobody can afford a house.

Speaker 2 What happens to electricity when all those people are not powered on food or have to live in a house but just need electricity?

Speaker 2 When you have all that electricity demand for these AI systems and bots, of course, the price is going to go through the roof, especially if we are at the same time that the demand is going up.

Speaker 2 We're saying limit the number of power plants. Let's go all green.

Speaker 2 If you want green energy, and you've known this, we've said this,

Speaker 2 it's degrowth. But listen to me carefully.
I am not throwing you under the bus.

Speaker 2 If you want green energy, then you have to recognize, and maybe you're fine with this, probably are, no Bitcoin, no AI, and no modern digital economy. It doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 If you want AI and the server farms and the EVs and your self-driving car, digital infrastructure, you must start building power plants in your state right now.

Speaker 2 The problem is these two realities cannot coexist. So we're going to see a split in the country.
Okay.

Speaker 2 The climate cult, as they're calling it,

Speaker 2 it's going to run headlong into artificial intelligence. And when that happens, lights go out in your house.
So what do you do?

Speaker 2 Let me give you two options. If you live in a state and you want to to go net zero,

Speaker 2 you now have to demand right now

Speaker 2 that they stop approving new server farms in your state because that is in direct conflict with your green agenda.

Speaker 2 You cannot live in a state that is building new server farms or is supplying power to server farms across the border to another state.

Speaker 2 You must pass laws right now, and I'm not for this, but I'm just giving you the option if you're for the green energy revolution.

Speaker 2 You must stop all server farms being built in your state or they will bleed you dry. And you must also pass a law saying we are not selling our electricity over state lines for a server farm.

Speaker 2 Got to do it. Got to do it now.

Speaker 2 You cannot run a

Speaker 2 trillion-parameter AI model on fairy dust or solar power or wind power. It doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 Now, if you believe in innovation, if you believe in the free market, if you believe in progress, if you believe in AI,

Speaker 2 you got to call your state reps right now and demand new, stable, high-output energy plants.

Speaker 2 The president is saying that all of these companies that are building these server farms must be responsible for their own power. They must build build their own power plant.

Speaker 2 You don't get anything from the grid,

Speaker 2 but that's not happening.

Speaker 2 So you need to go to your state rep and say, they cannot take the grid power. They cannot take the power from the people.
They have to create their own power.

Speaker 2 And I would say, and in fact, if they want to do it in the state, they must put some excess power into the grid.

Speaker 2 Because they're the ones that are going to be able to build the nuclear power plant, not your state. They will.
Gas, nuclear, hydro, whatever it takes, you need to call your state and say,

Speaker 2 we want power and we want the grids and we want the server farms. But if you are apathetic on this or if you are ignorant on this and you don't begin to act now, you are going to be

Speaker 2 You're going to you're going to be

Speaker 2 at the whims of whoever it is that's that's running your state California. We know which way you're going, but are you building server farms as well?

Speaker 2 Because if you are Utah, you should pass a law. We are not going to sell any more power to California because they will take your power

Speaker 2 to fund their server farms, not the people, their server farms.

Speaker 2 They will buy more power from you, which, if they're buying it from you, do you have enough for your server farms and your people in your state? Most likely, no.

Speaker 2 Unless you are doubling down on energy building right now.

Speaker 2 This is the near-term problem.

Speaker 2 Believe it or not, by the end of 2026, everybody will be very well aware of what energy is costing them and what server farms are doing to the stability of our grid.

Speaker 2 Unless people act right now, and you know, it's one thing to act at the federal level, this has to be at your local level. And quite honestly,

Speaker 2 I want the energy in Texas. I am not, I do not want to ship our energy someplace else for somebody else's server farm if they're not pulling their own weight on electricity.

Speaker 2 Because Texas is going to have server farms out the wazoo.

Speaker 2 We are building the power plants. We're not building them fast enough, but we are building them.

Speaker 2 And until we know our population, which is growing exponentially, our population can have the power they need to live, survive, and work.

Speaker 2 And the power plant the server farms that we are building, they have their power as well. There shouldn't be any.

Speaker 2 There shouldn't be one kilowatt that that is going across our border, especially to states who are green.

Speaker 2 But this one's going to be up to you. All right, back in just a second.

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Speaker 2 Hello, America.

Speaker 2 I spent some time online last night. Wow, was that a mistake?

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Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 when's the last time you just found yourself scrolling online, Stu?

Speaker 2 It does happen to the best of us. It does happen to the best of us.
And I did last night, and I found myself in crazy town. Quickly, crazy town.

Speaker 2 My gosh, conspiracy after conspiracy after conspiracy. It's like falling down a staircase made of madness.

Speaker 2 Every step you're hearing, you're like, oh, ow, ow, go, go.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you know this, but Trump is secretly planning to run in 2028. Oh, he's not.
He's trolling you. What is wrong with you?

Speaker 2 I don't know if you know this, but Erica Kirk is in league with Donald Trump and the Jews.

Speaker 2 They killed Charlie Kirk. Erica was behind it.
She knew. She called off the police.
It's madness.

Speaker 2 This is literal insanity.

Speaker 2 You know, I was watching some of these things and I thought, this is, I mean, this honestly is making the most alcohol-fueled days of Alex Jones seem like Walter Cronkite's most credible moments.

Speaker 2 What is happening? It's because it's everywhere. It's everywhere.
And the bad news is some of it's being laundered by credible hosts.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you saw the Robbie Starbucks story. This one's horrible because this is what's coming.
Have you seen the Robbie Starbucks story? So

Speaker 2 Robbie Starbuck, this story is one we should all learn from.

Speaker 2 Robbie, an actual public figure, a husband, a father, is now suing Google and Google AI because it fabricated entire stories about him for two solid years. Now, we've talked to him about this.

Speaker 2 It invented fake police records. It wrote fake timelines.
For two years, Google's artificial intelligence said he was on Jeffrey Epstein's list and had been arrested for unspeakable crimes.

Speaker 2 And just made it all up.

Speaker 2 No arrests, no real record, none of it, no truth to any of it, but just AI.

Speaker 2 The machine that we're told is going to save us.

Speaker 2 Made it all up.

Speaker 2 And it was relentless.

Speaker 2 Scroll up. Next, the death of Charlie Kirk, one of the most public executions in America.
We all saw the footage. We all saw it.
We wish we could unsee it.

Speaker 2 But within hours, the internet had already decided it was the Jews in league with his own team.

Speaker 2 And Israel was paying for it and covering up the truth. Oh.

Speaker 2 Now, you know what I love about this is, you know, most of the accounts are anonymous. A source close.

Speaker 2 Oh, who is that source?

Speaker 2 An anonymous account,

Speaker 2 a screenshot now of headlines that never existed.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 many of these things either began or ended with the phrase,

Speaker 2 if this is true, it means blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 Well, if it's true, I guess it changes everything.

Speaker 2 If the sun is actually a giant light bulb and it's 25 miles in the sky, if that's true, then everything we know about space is wrong.

Speaker 2 But it's not a light bulb 25 miles up in the sky.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 That if, if,

Speaker 2 if

Speaker 2 is becoming the gateway, it's the gateway drug to paranoia. Okay.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 I have to tell you, there will be many on the left who are like, I can't believe Glenn Beck, the chief conspiracy theorist, is out there saying about conspiracy theorists.

Speaker 2 I wasn't a conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 2 Mine were based in facts,

Speaker 2 documents. I would hold the document on the air.
Read it. Read it for yourself.
Go to blah, blah, blah.gov and find it yourself.

Speaker 2 I would show you the money trails,

Speaker 2 the real quotes from people saying, you know what I'm going to do? If I ever get my way, I'm going to make sure this country is communist.

Speaker 2 You know, if I ever get my way, I'm going to kill all those people. I showed you those quotes.

Speaker 2 Not, you know,

Speaker 2 if he said that.

Speaker 2 If that's true.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 I showed you what was true.

Speaker 2 You start with what people actually are doing,

Speaker 2 what you can prove, not what if I told you.

Speaker 2 Somebody says they're going to overthrow the West. Believe them.
Take them at their word.

Speaker 2 Let's start there, not with the missing piece, you know, the missing piece that, I don't know, if we could just find this piece, then it would all fit together, wouldn't it? Yeah, well, it would.

Speaker 2 Let me explain to you the danger of this and what you need to understand.

Speaker 2 All of this is predictable. In fact,

Speaker 2 I predicted it in about 2006, and I used the moonshot as an example, and I used George W. Bush and the lies of

Speaker 2 weapons of mass destruction as an example.

Speaker 2 Because these things were not true,

Speaker 2 if our government doesn't start correcting these things,

Speaker 2 having people pay for the crimes of, I lied. Yes, I lied.
I shouldn't have lied. Maybe you go to jail for that lie.
But you at least pay a price for that lie.

Speaker 2 And unless those things are cleared up, I said, right now,

Speaker 2 the number of people who believe we went to the moon is 93%.

Speaker 2 7% don't believe we went to the moon. You get 7% to believe just about anything.

Speaker 2 But mark my words, if we don't correct that, you will see it in the number of people who no longer believe we went to the moon. This is in 2006.

Speaker 2 Do you have you met people who say, we never went to the moon?

Speaker 2 We never went to the moon. That is all a lie.

Speaker 2 I met lots of them. Lots of them.
And a lot of them, I think, I thought,

Speaker 2 that's a pretty intelligent person. You know, I've been watching this thing on the internet.
Oh,

Speaker 2 really? Really? Anybody who gets their news from the internet is dumber than somebody who doesn't get their news from anywhere.

Speaker 2 Just don't get news over than getting your news from

Speaker 2 the scrolling online. I get all my news, you know, from Facebook.
I get everything I need to know from X. Oh, really? You're a moron.

Speaker 2 Here's the problem. Our government has lost all of its credibility.
Our institutions, their trust has evaporated. And this madness is only going to grow.

Speaker 2 Because if you no longer believe in anything, you will believe everything.

Speaker 2 That's what's happening. You can't argue with this stuff because you'll say that didn't happen.

Speaker 2 Wait, you mean that if Erica did it and the Jews did it, that means that Donald Trump is in on it. That's right.

Speaker 2 Oh, oh my, okay, your whole world has just fallen apart. Everything that you thought you believed is gone now.

Speaker 2 We are drowning in digital rumors

Speaker 2 because we stop trusting

Speaker 2 our own ability to find what's real.

Speaker 2 Let me ask you, and that's an honest question.

Speaker 2 Is there a public voice that you trust today

Speaker 2 that will tell you it's not as bad as you think it is?

Speaker 2 Is there anybody that you trust

Speaker 2 that is saying, you know what,

Speaker 2 don't go there. Please don't go there.

Speaker 2 Is there anybody that you trust that will say, you know what, I used to think this, but I don't think that anymore.

Speaker 2 Because if they can't say that, then they're not a thinking human being. If they're exactly the way they were 25 years ago, they are dead inside.

Speaker 2 They're not searching for anything because everything in the world has changed.

Speaker 2 But that doesn't mean you throw everything.

Speaker 2 We didn't go to the moon.

Speaker 2 Yes, we did. Yes, we did.
Yes, we did.

Speaker 2 I don't trust the media. I don't trust Congress.
I honestly don't trust the FBI.

Speaker 2 I don't know who to trust. I don't know who to trust.

Speaker 2 And I'm not alone. You're not alone.
According to Gallup, trust in newspapers has dropped 18%. Who knew newspapers were even being printed? Television news is at 14%.

Speaker 2 That's an all-time low.

Speaker 2 And when nobody believes anything, everyone starts believing everything and anyone. People that you've never...

Speaker 2 I know people who have listened to me for years. I've trusted you for a long time.
But I just saw Bozo...

Speaker 2 Bozo the nose clown. You mean Bozo the clown? No, something entirely different.
I've never even heard of this guy. But I heard him say this, and I believe him over you.
Really?

Speaker 2 Bozo the nose clown? You've never seen him before. You don't know anything about him.

Speaker 2 But somehow or another, he's earned your respect in that 47-second video that disproves to you

Speaker 2 all my credibility is gone, who you've listened to for years.

Speaker 2 Wow, you're a thinking human being.

Speaker 2 We are

Speaker 2 weeks, I don't believe years, we are weeks away,

Speaker 2 months, probably more accurate, from you no longer being able to believe your eyes at all. Okay? That has always been the test.
I'll believe it when I see it.

Speaker 2 Well, you're going to see deep fakes and you're not going to know what to believe.

Speaker 2 I mean, deep fakes already fake major newsrooms. They fools newsrooms.

Speaker 2 Last year, the Pentagon had to issue a correction because a fake AI-generated explosion photo near the White House caused a brief dip in the stock market. It wasn't true.

Speaker 2 But act on it, act on it, act on it. That's how fragile the truth has become, and it's only going to get worse.

Speaker 2 Some of the conspiracies that are floating around right now

Speaker 2 say that foreign money is infiltrating groups like Turning Point USA. Maybe, could be, could be.
Wouldn't doubt it. I'd think foreign money is trying to influence everything.

Speaker 2 We're vulnerable right now.

Speaker 2 But here's the question I don't hear anybody asking.

Speaker 2 Is there any foreign money funding the conspiracy themselves?

Speaker 2 Troll farms in St. Petersburg? The Chinese bot networks amplifying division on both the left and the right?

Speaker 2 I mean, we have the facts, according to cybersecurity firm Recorded Future. Russia and China run coordinated campaigns every single day pushing disinformation

Speaker 2 designed to make Americans hate each other.

Speaker 2 Let me ask you this question. Who benefits when we tear ourselves apart? Who gains when we can't agree on anything, not even reality?

Speaker 2 I'll give you a hint.

Speaker 2 You don't win.

Speaker 2 I don't win.

Speaker 2 America doesn't win.

Speaker 2 So I thought of this. How do we solve this problem? Let me go there in 60 seconds first.
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Speaker 2 We carry these little devices that connect us to the people we care about most, but the companies we're paying every month, you know, they don't seem to care about us at all.

Speaker 2 They're busy funding causes and campaigns and cultural movements that, you know, we'd never support in a million years.

Speaker 2 And it's a strange feeling, realizing that you're out pushing the country in a direction you don't believe in just because, you know, everybody uses this. You don't have to go along with that.

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Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 there's only one way to solve this that I can think of at this time.

Speaker 2 Two. You have to have the spirit with you you just have to have the spirit with you you have to have something that will testify to you of truth when you can't find it okay second thing is

Speaker 2 know what you're for not what you're against so many of these conspiracies are are built on what you're against or you're supposed to be against look for the things that you're for

Speaker 2 What is it that you're for?

Speaker 2 Because when everything becomes a conspiracy, when everyone becomes the enemy, when every if this is true becomes your next truth you're standing up against everything and you're not standing for anything you're standing for nothing

Speaker 2 and that's how civilizations fall how many people do you know that are standing for something

Speaker 2 not against

Speaker 2 Civilizations fall not through invasion, but through infection. Infection of the mind and the spirit and of the truth itself.

Speaker 2 Know what you're for.

Speaker 2 Before you share that next breaking post,

Speaker 2 say,

Speaker 2 stop and ask yourself,

Speaker 2 who does this benefit?

Speaker 2 Is this for something or against something?

Speaker 2 Before you say, if this is true, stop yourself.

Speaker 2 Who benefits if just I believe this?

Speaker 2 Because the real conspiracy here, the one that is really sweeping America, the one our enemies, and I mean that spiritually and temporally, the real enemies of the truth,

Speaker 2 the real conspiracy is the one that convinces you to stop believing in truth altogether.

Speaker 2 And we are close to that.

Speaker 2 Find the things that you know are true and build on those things.

Speaker 2 It's really scary.

Speaker 2 It's really scary,

Speaker 2 but it is so freeing when you'll just clean out everything that you think you believe, but you haven't earned that yourself. I started with religion.
I was taught. I listened to other people.

Speaker 2 I didn't find God myself. I didn't search myself.
It was taught to me. Well, you can't live on somebody else's testimony.

Speaker 2 Is your testimony of this country, is your testimony of why you believe in the free market system, if you do, or why you believe in Marxism, because you've torn it apart, because you've looked at it from all sides?

Speaker 2 Most likely not.

Speaker 2 But that's the only way you can actually defend something. Otherwise, you're just going to be blowing in the wind.
And that's what's happening. We're all blowing in the wind.

Speaker 2 What What was true today, suddenly, because Bozo the nose is on,

Speaker 2 all of a sudden, nope, I don't believe any of that stuff anymore. Because there's something in you that tells you you're being lied to.
And you are being lied to. You are.

Speaker 2 But go deeper.

Speaker 2 Look for the things that are true.

Speaker 2 You cannot find the truth if you don't have some sort of rock you're standing on. You will be blown apart and lost at sea.

Speaker 2 Find the rock first and build on that rock.

Speaker 2 Then you can go online and go, that's true. That's not true.
That's true. That I should investigate some more.
There's lots of things that I don't believe are true that I'm investigating.

Speaker 2 I want to know.

Speaker 2 But you can't do it if you don't know who you are and what anchors you.

Speaker 2 Please

Speaker 2 anchor yourself and then anchor your family.

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Speaker 2 I'm glad you're here.

Speaker 2 Thank you for listening. Sorry, I let the

Speaker 2 worst part of me out of its cage here. You know, and I said, You believe all these things, you're a moron.

Speaker 2 You know, it's not right of me to say that.

Speaker 2 If you're doing your own homework and you are really investigating and you're questioning with boldness

Speaker 2 the things that you believe

Speaker 2 and the things that are new in your life,

Speaker 2 that's healthy. That's healthy.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 continue to question, but just be very aware of all of the things that are at stake.

Speaker 2 And don't go down the road

Speaker 2 before you have put the rock at your feet.

Speaker 2 You've got to have something stable to stand on before you start just knocking the pillars of everything in our society away.

Speaker 2 You've got to have something you believe in that you can stand on that is true and that will hold you and our society together.

Speaker 2 Yeah, one of the things I always think about when people, a lot of times who haven't necessarily thought out

Speaker 2 a particular issue, or

Speaker 2 that's totally normal and you have to start somewhere, right? But it's like walking up to a forest and then you kind of look around and you see paths, right? Someone's already built a path.

Speaker 2 They built a path to the thing they want you to believe. And a lot of times we just kind of, generally speaking, will like, oh, there's a path over there.
There's a path over there.

Speaker 2 These are the two presented to me. I'm going to pick one of those two.
Not always, not always the right answers. You know, there might be a totally different direction to go in.

Speaker 2 We just told you the paths that are going to be laid out in front of you because of AI and everything else. Exactly.
Last hour, listen to the first hour of today's podcast.

Speaker 2 And I said, these are the two paths, but that's not the right path. There's a missing path here.
So

Speaker 2 don't, don't, the road less traveled. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, we always, we often find this with issues that we all talk about on the show all the time. Like, you go up to that, you know, issue forest there.

Speaker 2 There is a path built to what Zoron Mamdani thinks is the answer, right?

Speaker 2 And whether that particular answer for Zoron that day is capitalism is responsible or Jews are responsible, those seems to be the only two places he goes.

Speaker 2 But like, he's got a path. There's always a path built to one of those two things for a Zoron Mamdani.

Speaker 2 And so if you walk up there and you start researching, like, oh, gosh, well, this person's saying this, and this person, well, that path's already been pre-cut, right?

Speaker 2 Like, it is leading you down that road.

Speaker 2 And it oftentimes, for that crew, seems to be one of two answers, or maybe maybe both of those answers. You must read the things.

Speaker 2 Think of yourself when you're looking for truth as a juror.

Speaker 2 Don't rule when you've just heard the defense or the prosecution.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 if your defense lawyer is a really bad lawyer, don't just write that off. You don't need to stick with that lawyer.

Speaker 2 Find another lawyer that you can read and follow the path and go, okay, they say this. The other side says this.
Find the best, not straw man arguments, find the best arguments on both sides.

Speaker 2 Then as you go down that path, you will see intersections. You will see things where they both will say,

Speaker 2 yes, the defendant was in the house at the time.

Speaker 2 We know then both sides are saying it. That is true.
We know the defendant was in the house at the same time. Now,

Speaker 2 what is the defense reason for him being in the house? What is the prosecution's reason for being in the house?

Speaker 2 Is there anything else that correlates that all of a sudden there's an intersection where they both go, yep, and he opened up the knife drawer?

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 You look for those things that both sides that are pitted against each other are saying is true.

Speaker 2 If you can't find the person who is saying any of that stuff is true, any of it, then you're dealing with an absolute fabrication or you're looking for the wrong defense attorney. Okay.

Speaker 2 You've got to be able to find somebody. There's got to be, you know, for instance,

Speaker 2 I'm not going to get into it. There's, it's just, cause it's just going to,

Speaker 2 so tiring.

Speaker 2 But there are things

Speaker 2 in everything that are true both sides, but you cannot just abandon, especially don't be the person that sees the new sexy, you know, blonde and you're like i want to be with her

Speaker 2 well no she might be sexy but she might also be a psycho

Speaker 2 get to know her for a while sit down

Speaker 2 have some coffee with her do some non-sexual things with her okay speaking to you uh new york city voters yeah just you're saying this could absolutely be exactly what you're talking about with zoron mummy yeah it is right and he's saying all the things that are sexy to them yeah They love to, they'd love to believe you can just control the rent.

Speaker 2 They'd love to believe everything can be free, free child care, free buses, free everything. They'd love to believe that you never have to put anybody in prison because it's mean.

Speaker 2 And you know why that happens? It's because, well, look at him. He's young.
He's good looking.

Speaker 2 He's smiley. He's smiley.
All this is said with a smile. Yeah.
You notice that.

Speaker 2 And, you know, how many times, you know, the Bernie Sanders approach, that angry old guy screaming at you and shaking his fist at the cloud of approach to socialism, the policies are the same as O'Ron Mamdani.

Speaker 2 It comes in a totally different package. AOC, you know, it's funny.
AOC's younger, but not a different package. She's the same package in a way that Bernie is.
She's the same thing.

Speaker 2 She's angry all the time. She's kind of, that is, that's not what Mom Dani's doing here.
And it's working on voters

Speaker 2 he's saying these things with this giant smile on his face no matter what. I keep thinking, I don't know what the right.
Help me with this, Glenn.

Speaker 2 There's a pop culture reference that I can't exactly figure out of what he's doing here. The closest I could come up with was the, the, the, the host of the Hunger Games.

Speaker 2 You know, you remember the guy? Super smiley. I love it.
He's smiling all the time. He's describing people murdering each other.
But what's the love story?

Speaker 2 He's got that sort of like smiley approach and presentation to all this, and that's what's winning. And then you go up against, you know, the other people, you know, I like Curtis Sleevo a lot.

Speaker 2 He's obviously a Republican, very difficult uphill battle. And then you got Cuomo, who's, you know, very dour and, you know, he's awful in a million of his own ways.
Killed a bunch of people.

Speaker 2 Killed a bunch of people. And the ones he didn't kill, he groped.
So those things are negatives.

Speaker 2 But he never groped somebody he killed.

Speaker 2 We don't know that at all. And I would, I I would, by the way, again, don't believe, don't just believe what Glenn said there.
Check it out for yourself. Did he grope the people he killed?

Speaker 2 We don't know.

Speaker 2 But, you know, like there is a, there's a reason why Mom Donnie's winning that election outside of just generalized socialism, which is obviously popular with a certain set of New Yorkers.

Speaker 2 But the way he's presenting it, the way he's coming about is the approach that you're going to start seeing around the country. It's not going to just be there.
No.

Speaker 2 If this works in New York, you're going to start seeing this in a lot of different places.

Speaker 2 These same proposals, these same policies, these same terrible ideas that have failed over and over and over and over again

Speaker 2 are going to be presented with this giant.

Speaker 2 There's a term that people put before grin

Speaker 2 that I would

Speaker 2 need something.

Speaker 2 I will tell you that for the first time, I thought

Speaker 2 I think AOC could possibly win in 2028.

Speaker 2 She could win.

Speaker 2 There's absolutely a scenario where she could win. I just don't think that her approach, I mean, did you watch her at the Mom Donnie rally the other day? No.

Speaker 2 Do you remember the Hillary

Speaker 2 Clinton rallies where she would scream and her voice? I got longer than the most annoying sound ever heard by most people.

Speaker 2 She's there.

Speaker 2 She doesn't have control. He has control.
That's what's scary about him. He's a performer.
He is a performer who is a controlled performer.

Speaker 2 Now, you look back in his past before he learned these things, and there's all sorts of mistakes, but he's not making those mistakes.

Speaker 2 Now, he's saying things like, I haven't come out with a position on that yet.

Speaker 2 You can't say that. What do you mean? That's not an answer in a campaign, but he's able to do that with a smile.

Speaker 2 Nobody's asking. They want to feel good.

Speaker 2 They want to feel good.

Speaker 2 You know, by the way, isn't, you know, know, they keep saying that Cuomo should, I mean, that Sliwa should drop out. Doesn't he have

Speaker 2 a higher chance of winning if Cuomo drops out? There's certainly an argument. I mean, like one of the latest polls that just came out had if Cuomo drops out, Zora Momdani, 49, Curtis Sliwa, 41.

Speaker 2 So Momdani's up by 8. If Sliwa drops out, Momdani 49, Cuomo 39, Mom Dani up by 10.
So he's a larger lead against Cuomo than he does against Sliwa.

Speaker 2 Now, there is an argument to be made that New York City

Speaker 2 generally is a Democratic-leaning place. They're not going to vote for a Republican no matter what.

Speaker 2 You know, at least Cuomo is a Democrat. And maybe

Speaker 2 there's such high negatives. Yeah, what people

Speaker 2 don't understand is how many never Cuomo people there are. There's a ton of them.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You become never Cuomo when he kills your your relatives.

Speaker 2 You don't care about Mom Danny's policies. Now, when Mom Donnie gets hit and other

Speaker 2 relatives wind up dying for other reasons, you might not like Mom Donnie either. I think it'll be a catastrophe.
But people can't stand this man. Andrew Cuomo is a terrible human being.

Speaker 2 There's a brand new poll that just came out. Cuomo cuts Mom Danny's lead by 10 points.
So now he is within 10 points. Yeah, that's what this poll was.
He's within 10 points. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 I mean, not with anybody dropping out.

Speaker 2 With Sleewa. Sleewa's down 11 points and he's up.
I mean, the,

Speaker 2 again, maybe some.

Speaker 2 I will say. Imani 44, Cuomo 34, Sleewa 11.
Okay, so some, I guess, of the Sleewa vote. I mean, Sleewa's only, I mean, that's not that much of a difference.

Speaker 2 I think Cuomo was at 29, so he's up a few points, a few, and Sleewa was about 16. So in that one poll, the movement is there.

Speaker 2 In this poll, the movement's the opposite way or telling a different story.

Speaker 2 My point is, not necessarily that Sliwa has a higher percentage chance of winning the election,

Speaker 2 but I think they're about equal, which are pretty much long shots. They're both long shots in that race.
Isn't it interesting that the world's least effective,

Speaker 2 not speaker, but

Speaker 2 minority leader of the House

Speaker 2 came out last, what was it, Monday? Or was it Hakeem Jeffrey? Yeah, it came out last week or Monday and said, you know, I'm going to endorse him. And they're like,

Speaker 2 why did it take you so long? Oh, we're busy with the, you know, with the spending bill.

Speaker 2 You're not, no, that's not true.

Speaker 2 And it's

Speaker 2 taken that guy that long to endorse.

Speaker 2 The system does not want him, which I think would actually go to his favor, especially in places like New York. They're done with us.
They're done with the Democrats.

Speaker 2 I really believe they're done with the Democrats. They're done with the same old, same old.
They want something new, and it's not going to be a Republican.

Speaker 2 And, you know, when you look at the number of foreigners that were foreign-born compared to those who are American-born, Mom Dani just crushes, just crushes with the foreign-born.

Speaker 2 It's like 68% of those who are foreign-born New Yorkers that can vote are for Mom Dani.

Speaker 2 34%

Speaker 2 are for Momdani if you were born in New York or born in America. Yeah, no, that's true.
And there is a... That's what you get when you import the third world.

Speaker 2 That's what you get. I mean, there's always been a lot of immigrants in New York City.
Yeah. Of course, going back through history, you can still find a pretty high percentage.
It's getting higher.

Speaker 2 And, of course, God only knows how many people...

Speaker 2 You wonder certainly about registration policies for those not eligible to vote in that particular

Speaker 2 dude. I bet they're worried about that one.

Speaker 2 Bet they're like, oh, he shouldn't have done that huh i just wish i just wish that you know look i like curtis leew a lot i really uh hope he would to win and uh you know it's just a tough road there i just wish there was somebody other than andrew cuomo that was the other option it's like this would be a perfect time to have a you know pro-business moderate democrat type of person available i mean

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Speaker 2 Welcome to the Glendeck program. Come up with any names? We're out of time, Glenn.
I'm sorry. We're just looking for pro-business

Speaker 2 Republicans that could

Speaker 2 run in New York. Like, that could be essentially step into that Cuomo position and actually win this particular election.
Not that I want to vote for it, but I'm just saying. Go for it.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, the model for this is probably what was Bloomberg. Yes.
Right. Bloomberg did this, except he ran even as a Republican and pulled it off.
Right.

Speaker 2 However, obviously he has baggage. I'm not saying he would be now the guy to step in.

Speaker 2 Also, I can't stand him. That's a whole separate thing.
The liar. There's a couple people like, you know, you think of someone like a Josh Shapiro or a Jared Polis, maybe.

Speaker 2 I mean, he's a Western, doesn't really have that same vibe. You would probably have to live there.
No, I know. I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 The one maybe might be the best one would be Howard Schultz, the Starbucks guy.

Speaker 2 You know, that type of person who could step in and be like a pro-Marxist.

Speaker 2 Not a Marxist. Not a Marxist.
Maybe,

Speaker 2 you know, friendly to some business. But, I mean, Schultz obviously isn't eligible or anything there.
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Speaker 2 it could have been time for that type of person. He does not exist.
Unfortunately, they have Andrew Cuomo.

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Speaker 2 I want to talk to you a little bit about what's happening in Argentina. Malay won in a landslide, did really, really well.
And I don't understand because, dude, didn't they?

Speaker 2 Oh, we're in a little poll saying, oh, he's probably not going to win this one. I mean, it looks sketchy.
They said they were going to turn on him, and

Speaker 2 they were revolting against this purchase of currency by the U.S. Yeah, and that didn't happen at all.
And so that means good things for Argentina and good things if you are a small government person.

Speaker 2 It is, it's changing,

Speaker 2 it's changing the

Speaker 2 South American continent. And it is part, I think, of the Monroe Doctrine 2.0, which I told you, I think that's why we're actually bombing those boats in Venezuela.

Speaker 2 This is Monroe Doctrine stuff, 2.0, Donald Trump's version of it.

Speaker 2 And I want to talk to our good friend Carol Roth, who is an economist, and can tell us exactly what's going on in these currency swaps.

Speaker 2 And quite honestly, the one thing Donald Trump did do that I really don't like is he just quadrupled the amount of beef that can come in from Argentina.

Speaker 2 Argentina has good beef, but we need American ranchers. What are we doing importing all this meat? He was trying to shore up their economy and also make beef cheaper here, but that hurts our ranchers.

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Speaker 5 Hi, Glenn. How are you?

Speaker 2 Good.

Speaker 2 Can you tell me what's going on in Argentina? First of all, the currency swap. We didn't make a loan to Argentina.
We made a currency swap, which, you know, I'm not really,

Speaker 2 I'm not really fond of the,

Speaker 2 what is it, the peso? Or what is their currency down in Argentina?

Speaker 5 The Argentinian peso. You don't have a bunch of those in your vault with all your gold and silver?

Speaker 2 No, nope, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 But we do now. Because we currency swapped, right?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 5 So this is, yeah, this is not

Speaker 5 just giving money to Argentina for its government to spend. This is a financial support, which, by the way, currency swaps are not something that's unusual.

Speaker 5 We do this all the time with our allies, with Japan and Canada and whatnot.

Speaker 5 What is unusual in this particular situation is how it's affected. So basically, what happened is that we gave the Argentinian central bank dollars.

Speaker 5 We took as collateral the peso and that is meant to support the Argentinian peso and help to stabilize its currency.

Speaker 5 And a couple of things of note. One is how it was done is interesting because normally when we do currency swaps and we have these lines, it's done through the Federal Reserve, our central bank.

Speaker 5 This time it was not. It was done through the Treasury, through something called the ESF, the Exchange Stabilization Fund, which is sort of a black box fund that allows Treasury to move quickly.

Speaker 5 You don't need Jay Powell. You don't need the approval of Congress in order to do these things within the United States.

Speaker 2 And that's what it was built for, to stabilize currency in friendly countries.

Speaker 5 And in the U.S., by the way.

Speaker 5 I can talk about the history and how we've used it in the U.S. before, but just to kind of get to the Argentinian point, we did this before the election to help

Speaker 5 stabilize things for Malay so that his government could win.

Speaker 5 But we didn't do this because we think Malay is a good guy, and we didn't do this because we think he has fabulous hair, even though we do think that.

Speaker 5 The reason we did this is to secure our interests, because you know who has been making a play in Argentina and throughout Latin America.

Speaker 5 Do you know who's had a long-term currency swap line and plays with Argentina? It's another country, and I'll give you all a hint, it rhymes with China.

Speaker 5 So China's influence all around the world with their Belt and Road initiatives where they're trying to dominate traditional infrastructure, digital infrastructure, financial infrastructure.

Speaker 5 We are trying to kick out their influence for national security reasons.

Speaker 5 Also, it just so happens that Argentina has the second largest reserve of lithium, as well as a smaller set of reserves of other rare earth elements that we need access to for our economic and national security.

Speaker 5 So that is what is underpinning all of this. It's because we don't want to be speaking Mandarin one day.

Speaker 2 It is amazing how Donald Trump, people just don't understand this. Everything he's doing in South America, he is realigning the globe.

Speaker 2 He is doing,

Speaker 2 he is doing his own version of America First Great Reset,

Speaker 2 and he's just doing it by himself. I mean, it's pretty incredible, isn't it, Carol?

Speaker 2 It really is.

Speaker 5 And this is why, you know, I remember when we first had the discussion about Scott Besant, is he the right person for Treasury? And

Speaker 5 I eased everyone's concerns. Scott Bessett made his fortune on foreign currency exchange.

Speaker 5 There is nobody who understands the machinations of how you use currency to support countries and also the impacts on political influence like Scott Besson.

Speaker 5 So he has been side by side with President Trump, who has said China's influence in South America is a national security issue. It's a priority.

Speaker 5 And at this time when we're seeing a reset of the global financial order and you have China making this very big play at the same time when we really have a serious issue with our fiscal foundation, at a minimum, we need to make sure that we have our hemisphere locked down before we can do anything else.

Speaker 5 And China has really been focused on making inroads in Latin America, and that is what this is all about. And it's not just about the currency swap.

Speaker 5 You talked about the importation of Argentinian beef. That is a piece of it as well.
And we have to support U.S. ranchers.
We have to make it easier for them to do business.

Speaker 5 We have to remove regulation. But this extra piece from Argentina, this is a long-term play.

Speaker 5 And I know that it's hard for people who are ranchers and who are dealing with it this day to day, but this is a long-term play for national security because otherwise it's not going to be Argentinian beef.

Speaker 5 It's going to be China that owns everything.

Speaker 2 So I'm looking at Venezuela, what's happening there.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I don't think that's about drug running. I mean, you know, it is about drug running, but it's not.
It's about, again, taking control of this hemisphere. True or false?

Speaker 3 Absolutely. I mean, and

Speaker 5 this isn't even you or I guessing about this. This has been a stated goal of the Trump administration.

Speaker 5 One of the great things about the Trump administration is Trump, whether he intends to or not, is incredibly transparent.

Speaker 5 He will tell you what is coming. He will tell you the things that he's going to do.

Speaker 5 Even if they're couched in a different wrapper, you can look through that wrapper and see what that candy is on the inside. And he tells us about that candy.
So he has been very clear clear that

Speaker 5 in addition to the commodities and the rarest elements and all these things that are very plentiful in South America and we need to make sure that we have within our allies control so that we can have access to, you do not want China to have

Speaker 5 military relationships and other very strong relationships within South America because we know what that means long term for the United States.

Speaker 2 How is Trump doing

Speaker 2 overall?

Speaker 5 So I think overall, I think he's doing quite well. I think from a foreign policy perspective, and I've said this during the last administration, it's funny you think of him as a business guy.

Speaker 5 But from a foreign policy perspective, he's been absolutely just killing it, crushing it. He's been doing a great job in terms of securing the borders.

Speaker 5 Obviously, we would like to see more deportations, but they're certainly trying and have some roadblocks.

Speaker 5 And I think from an economic standpoint, the fact that he has this long-term lens, even though some of the machinations I don't agree with, these are the important things.

Speaker 5 I mean, this is finally an administration who goes, wait, our military stockpile is at risk because we do not have the components in the supply chain to be able to make products.

Speaker 5 We are dependent upon products from other countries and assume that they are going to sell us those products so that we can have missiles to defend ourselves against them. That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 5 So finally, we have people who are addressing the long-term problems.

Speaker 5 And I think the most important thing for our country right now is that we have the runway because we cannot, you know, in three years or three and a half years turn over the reins to another set of people who want to undo all of this, who hate the United States, who want to walk that back.

Speaker 5 We need people like President Trump, like the people he's developing, who understand the long-term issues that we face that have been built up over many years from this broken fiscal foundation, from both parties, but that's where we are today, and he is doing the hard work to try to fix that.

Speaker 5 And it's not necessarily apparent to everyone who doesn't understand at this level, but it is so critical for this very important reset that we are going to have.

Speaker 2 So I know that you are not a fan of

Speaker 2 tariffs. I'm not a fan of tariffs.
Correct. However, the things that have have been happening,

Speaker 2 the tariffs are not doing what everybody thought they would do. Why is that?

Speaker 5 Well, I don't necessarily agree that they're not doing what people thought they would do. I think that there's been a bit of overhype on how things are presented.

Speaker 5 So do tariffs make it more expensive for businesses and consumers to buy certain goods and services? Yes, and that has happened.

Speaker 5 And I've seen that with my own eyes with my own company and joint venture partners and other small businesses across the country. There are small businesses that have had major burdens.

Speaker 5 These are the things we thought would happen and they are happening.

Speaker 5 In terms of creating runaway inflation, I don't think anybody said that at the levels they are. They said that when he kicked him up to 100 percent, which he walked back.

Speaker 5 But we also know when you look at inflation data that the way that that's calculated, there's a lot of picking and choosing and substitutions.

Speaker 5 So of course, when you say, oh, well, if this particular product is being hit too much, someone's going to substitute it to this, of course, it's not going to show up in the same way in the numbers as it affects people in their day-to-day lives.

Speaker 5 So again, I think it's that nuanced understanding.

Speaker 5 It's the same thing, you know, when people said, hey, why am I at the grocery store and everything's 30% higher, and they're telling us inflation under Biden is at 4%.

Speaker 5 We know that that has to do with the calculation. So I think that tariffs are causing some issues and some pain, and hopefully that can be sorted out in time.

Speaker 5 But absent that particular strategy, I think other things that he's doing on the American front to shore up our security from an economic and national security standpoint make a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 And Carol, I mean, I think a lot of people lose sight because it was just such a big issue. You know, look, trade is important, but it is also not a huge part of our economy.

Speaker 2 Am I right that it's ⁇ you know, imported goods are about 10% of our economy. Does that number sound about right?

Speaker 5 You know, it's a small percent. I would want to go back and verify the number because I have so many things rolling around my head today.
And that's not one that's top of mind.

Speaker 5 But it's not a meaningful percent of our direct economy. But where it does impact is that there's componentry that then flows through the economy.
It affects domestic goods and services.

Speaker 5 So even if on a headline basis it doesn't seem like it's that important, it can flow through the rest of the economy and create a drag and create some issues there.

Speaker 2 I want to take a break. And Carol, I want to come back.
Carol Roth is the economist that I trust. She's a former investment banker and really has a clear eye on not Wall Street, but Main Street.

Speaker 2 I want to talk to you about the shutdown. We're about to start to see possible delays now at airports as our air traffic controllers.
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Speaker 2 So, Carol, tell me where we are on the shutdown.

Speaker 5 Well, it's tough, as I think I've said to you before, Glenn, as somebody who would love to see many parts of the government be shut down permanently.

Speaker 5 There's part of me that goes, this is fantastic, and I hope it goes on forever. Me too.
Obviously, there are people who, you know, we want to make sure we get paid.

Speaker 5 We want to make sure the military gets paid. We want to make sure that air traffic controllers get paid.
And so

Speaker 5 there's a little bit of give and take.

Speaker 5 Probably the most surprising thing that has come to light is how many people are on food assistance in this country.

Speaker 5 When we have something that's supposed to be a safety net, it's almost in my mind supposed to be like the under the tightrope, that trampoline under the tightrope, that net, right?

Speaker 5 It catches you if it falls, and then it pushes you back up, and it's a temporary solution. I feel like we've turned that net into a hammock where people are just taking a nap and

Speaker 5 sleeping in it long term.

Speaker 5 And that is something that even though devastating for the families who cannot who truly need to be on it, the fact that this is getting some light on it, I think net net could be a small silver lining here.

Speaker 5 And I think it's got to put pressure on the Democratic base. The Democrats are holding out for a bunch of insanity, for illegals, over trying to feed the people who are actually in their base.

Speaker 5 So I'm hoping that puts enough pressure.

Speaker 5 For everybody else, though, I think when this really starts to flow through the economy and becomes a drag on numbers and becomes a drag on the stock market is where you're going to see a little bit more.

Speaker 2 Any idea when that happens?

Speaker 5 It's hard to say because, you know, as we know right now with the government shutdown, we're not even getting numbers on a regular basis.

Speaker 5 But we cannot afford for GDP to contract. We cannot afford for the consumer, which is 70% of the economy, to feel like they cannot spend because that flows through tax receipts.

Speaker 5 And if we have lower tax receipts, it's going to blow up the deficit. If we blow up the deficit, we can end up in a debt spiral.
So that's the big issue here.

Speaker 2 The food stamps, you know, if you look at the SNAP program through ethnicity, 45.6% of Afghans who have been imported here in America are on food stamps.

Speaker 2 42% of the Somali community, 34% of the Iraqi community, and 23% of the Haitian community.

Speaker 2 That just can't happen. That just can't happen.

Speaker 5 You know, in terms of those numbers,

Speaker 5 they think there's a common sense approach that we need to take here in terms of immigration, which I've raised the question with AI, how much immigration do we actually need?

Speaker 5 But to the extent that we do invite great people into our country who share our values, we need to means test that. And you should not be allowed to come here and then be dependent on the government.

Speaker 5 That should be a condition of coming to this country. And I think that's something that seems like it would be an 80-20 or 90-10 issue.

Speaker 5 So again, shining a light on these things at the point in time when we have people who are actually willing to do the hard work and address the problem is a net benefit, is a silver lining, lining, even though the backdrop, you know, we don't want people who actually need this to go without food.

Speaker 5 But, you know, it brings into question the system.

Speaker 5 You can get people beans, you can get people rice, you can get people staples and have them be well-fed at a fraction of the cost that it's currently costing and keep out the sodas and the candies and the people who just arrived here

Speaker 5 to take advantage of the system.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Carol, thank you.
As always, go ahead and press it. Always a pleasure.
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Speaker 2 All right. When we come back, we are going to talk to Representative Stutzman in Indiana.

Speaker 2 He wants to talk a little bit about what's happening in Nigeria, and I also want to talk to him about redistricting in Indiana. We'll do both of those things when we come back.

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Speaker 2 You know, when you're looking for good guys in Congress, good guys on Capitol Hill,

Speaker 2 one of the really good guys is Marlon Stutzman. And he is a congressman from Indiana, and he joins us now.

Speaker 2 Marlon, welcome. How are you, sir?

Speaker 3 Hey, I'm doing great, Glenn. Great to be with you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I wanted to talk to you. You and Ted Cruz are introducing something today.

Speaker 2 And it is to protect the people in Nigeria, the Christians in Nigeria. Before you get to the bill, explain to America what is happening that very few people are even aware of.

Speaker 3 Yes. No.
You know, we've been focusing a lot on the Middle East, and there's obviously

Speaker 3 Christians and Druze and other sectarian groups in Syria that have been killed. Of course,

Speaker 3 the conflict in Gaza. But here in Africa, in Nigeria, since 2009, Boko Haram has killed 125,000 Christians and the jihadist groups that are there are destroying hundreds of churches every month.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 3 this is bad. I don't know if you had a chance.
There's a video that's been floating around social media with a pastor that's standing over

Speaker 3 some dead bodies in an open grave, and he's just pleading for help, and especially particularly America.

Speaker 3 And so there's been a real genocide of Christians in particular in Nigeria, and it's just a tragic situation that's going on there right now.

Speaker 2 Well, I know that the Nazarene Fund has been

Speaker 2 trying to get there for a while, but it's one of the most dangerous places in the world.

Speaker 2 You know, Boko

Speaker 2 Haram

Speaker 2 is really,

Speaker 2 really very dangerous. And it's not just this.
I think...

Speaker 2 In

Speaker 2 just since Trump has gotten into office, 7,000 Christians have been been killed and almost 8,000 Christians, women and children, have been abducted and they've been sold into slavery.

Speaker 2 So, I mean,

Speaker 2 the problem

Speaker 2 is

Speaker 2 just ungodly. Ungodly.

Speaker 2 What does your bill do to stop this?

Speaker 3 Yeah, so the Nigeria Religious Freedom Accountability Act, which is also sponsored by Senator Ted Cruz in the Senate, it targets sanctions on officials in that country country who enforce Sharia law and would also facilitate any sort of or allow for any sort of violence against Christians.

Speaker 3 It also designates Nigeria as a country of particular concern for the administration to focus on this. And I think, you know, this has really has gotten some attention lately in a really fast way.

Speaker 3 And my hope is we just keep building this momentum. You know, one of the things, Glenn, you know, I was really glad to see you in Fort Wade and Auburn a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 3 And as we talked a little bit about religious freedom, I think this is the issue that we all need to be focused on here in America as well as around the world.

Speaker 3 Because if you don't have religious freedom, you don't have economic freedom. You don't have all the other freedoms that we enjoy.

Speaker 3 Because if you're going to allow jihadists to come into the country and just extinguish those they disagree with,

Speaker 3 this is not the way humanity should behave at all.

Speaker 3 This is not civility at all. And so that's why

Speaker 3 this is going to target those, hit them in the pocket, and hit them hard. And I don't want to see us using the United States military as a police force around the world, but we don't have to.

Speaker 3 We can hit them with financial consequences, and that's what this bill does.

Speaker 2 And I know that, well, I don't want to give out any information until it's time to give out information, but we're getting involved as well. And I hope to be there in the

Speaker 2 first quarter of next year, bringing this story to America

Speaker 2 firsthand so you can see what is going on. Because

Speaker 2 I just,

Speaker 2 I'm very concerned with everything that is happening around the world,

Speaker 2 including in Europe, and what I think is coming here. I mean, Texas, people, people in Texas have no idea.

Speaker 2 We are leading the nation on

Speaker 2 Sharia law,

Speaker 2 building

Speaker 2 communities

Speaker 2 here in Texas. And the state government is finally getting serious about it, and they really need to.
But I think this Sharia law thing,

Speaker 2 it is going to be the next big battle of the West.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, I think you're right. And that's the thing where, you know, with the Muslim countries

Speaker 3 in the Middle East, like the UAE, they have religious freedom.

Speaker 3 That's the model that we should be following. That's why Syria, is so critical right now.
Syria is on this edge where it could go one way or the other.

Speaker 3 And it really needs to, we're pushing very hard for the new president there, Al-Shara, to allow for religious freedom

Speaker 3 because it's a very diverse country. But if you look at Africa, I mean, Christianity is growing in Africa.
And I'm good friends with Daniel Ada. He's running for president of Benin in Africa.

Speaker 3 Wonderful Christian man. And

Speaker 3 there are leaders that are stepping up in Africa saying, we've had enough, and they're speaking out.

Speaker 3 But now the jihadists and the extremists are coming in and trying to put the fear in them by killing them and extinguishing them. And that just should not be allowed.

Speaker 3 The global community needs to come together and say, you know, not in Africa. I mean, if we all know Africa's struggles for centuries,

Speaker 3 there are people there that are really trying to build up that continent. And if this is allowed to happen, it just can't happen.

Speaker 2 I have to tell you, I've seen more real Christians

Speaker 2 in the Middle East than I've seen anywhere else in the world.

Speaker 2 These people know what their faith is because they're threatened. Their life is threatened all the time.
All the time.

Speaker 2 Can we talk about two other things? First of all, the redistricting in Indiana. Your governor is now looking at that.

Speaker 2 Are you going to do it in Indiana?

Speaker 3 So the governor has called a special session, and there's a lot of momentum. I think, you know, people are starting to understand.

Speaker 3 You know, right at first, when redistricting was talked about, everybody was like, you know, we shouldn't have to do this. You know, in Indiana,

Speaker 3 we're a strong conservative state. We've had good governance for the last couple of decades.
You know, we're balanced budgets. It's a good place to raise a family.

Speaker 3 But now you have states like California, Illinois. I was just talking to former Congressman Rodney Davis from Illinois a little bit ago.

Speaker 3 They're squeezing out all the Republican districts in those states and to give the Democrats an advantage. And it's like, well, why do we have to do this? Well, we're not a sanctuary state in Indiana.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of other conservative states that aren't sanctuary states. So states like California, Illinois, New York, they all have an advantage because they count the illegals in those states.

Speaker 3 They count the non-citizens in those states. So they probably have like five or six extra districts that they shouldn't even have, Glenn.
And so there's an imbalance.

Speaker 3 And that's why I'm supporting this.

Speaker 3 And I believe that this is an issue that needs to be addressed because we're just, you know, the standard is the lowest common denominator, and that's California, sadly.

Speaker 3 And so that's why Indiana is doing it. Hopefully we get the votes in the state senate.

Speaker 3 We need the state senate to be supportive of this so that way people really do have equal representation in the House of Representatives from Indiana.

Speaker 2 Last thing,

Speaker 2 you know, I'm all for government shutdowns. I'd like to see them shut down, you know, and maybe open just a third of it back.

Speaker 2 But we're now starting to face problems with, you know, the Democrats got so many, 40 million people addicted to SNAP,

Speaker 2 and you can't just pull that away. You're going to have all kinds of problems.

Speaker 2 And we're also not paying now our military going to come up to another payday. We've got our air traffic controllers that are not going to be paid.
How long can this go on?

Speaker 2 Where do the Democrats stand?

Speaker 2 What's the mood on Capitol Hill?

Speaker 3 Well, it's interesting, but

Speaker 3 the fact that

Speaker 3 the Democrat leader in the House,

Speaker 3 she said that, you know, people are going to have to feel the pain because this is their only leverage.

Speaker 3 that they have over Republicans and basically saying, hey, my constituents are going to have to go without. That way we have leverage in D.C.

Speaker 3 to negotiate. And that's just to me unfathomable because it's like you're willing to make your own constituents hurt.

Speaker 3 And Catherine Clark, she's been a Democrat leader for quite some time and she just literally said that. So I think this pressure is going to start building.

Speaker 3 Staff on the Hill are not going to be getting paid soon. I think they'll have some influence over the senators in the Senate side, on the Democrat side.

Speaker 3 I mean, this is ridiculous i mean we could have not even been in this situation by passing a clean cr continue the negotiations but what i believe is here the democrats are willing to cut their own constituents food benefits in so that they can negotiate for health care for illegals yeah make sense of that it it what's crazy to me is it's not like they're hurting you know

Speaker 2 you know, the average person even. They're hurting the person, the lowest person on the ladder, the one that they always say Democrat or Republicans are trying to starve.

Speaker 2 They literally are okay with starving those people and not giving them any benefits for food. And they are the ones who enslave them in this.
I mean,

Speaker 2 it's crazy to me what they're willing to do. That's the ends justify the means.

Speaker 3 That's right. No, and they all voted against the Big Beautiful bill, which cuts taxes.
for families, working families across the country. They're willing to let those taxes go up.

Speaker 3 They voted against no tax on tips. Now, I'm going to tell you what, I was in the restaurant business.
I know how hard restaurant staff work. And

Speaker 3 that's a couple hundred bucks that they're going to be able to take home because they don't have to pay taxes on it. No tax on overtime is another one.

Speaker 3 When people are trying to make ends meet and they can keep some extra money, it goes a long way.

Speaker 3 And yet, Democrats are against all of that.

Speaker 2 How's this going to end?

Speaker 2 Wednesday.

Speaker 3 I think next week, I mean, that's Marlon Stutzman's prediction, because I think, you know, once the staff don't get paid on the Hill, once, you know, snap benefits aren't being paid out, I think the pressure bills, they're going to want to get past the longest shutdown so that way they can tell their base that they held out longer than anybody else.

Speaker 3 And I think also the election in Virginia and New Jersey, they're trying to find some momentum. to shut down or kind of call it timeout on President Trump because Trump has such momentum.

Speaker 3 And so I think we're getting close, but if they want to go longer, they're only hurting their own folks as well as the rest of the country.

Speaker 2 Can I ask something? When I was up in Fort Wayne, to change the subject,

Speaker 2 I heard that you are building a giant Google

Speaker 2 server farm up there. Are they being required to provide their own electricity? Are they going to build their own power plant?

Speaker 2 Because, I mean, electricity all over the country is going through the roof because of these server farms.

Speaker 3 It is. And there's actually, we have probably five to six server farms being built in Indiana, and the utility rates have gone up.

Speaker 3 They do not, they are getting their power from a nuclear facility out of Michigan, but everybody knows that we're at our capacity. And they have.

Speaker 3 Google actually, when I visited there, they actually offered to have the conversation about building an SMR, a small modular reactor.

Speaker 3 to power their own facility and others. I mean, I think that's

Speaker 3 Is these small modular reactors where we have nuclear power, but we don't have to build the monstrosities. We can build these smaller ones that still produce a ton of power for cities across

Speaker 3 the country.

Speaker 2 And they don't melt down. There is no China syndrome.
I mean, they are so safe. I mean, nuclear power is still the safest energy ever produced in human history.

Speaker 2 But now these small reactors are like 10 times as safe as anything ever was.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Yeah, we actually build them in southern Indiana that go into the nuclear submarines that we use in the military.

Speaker 3 So these guys are sleeping right next to them on a submarine, and we've never had any issues. And of course, again, I think that the whole green energy phase is hopefully

Speaker 3 going away. But I think people are starting to realize if we're going to really meet our energy demand, nuclear has got to be at the head of that.

Speaker 2 Marlon, thank you so much. Really appreciate it.
God bless. Thanks for everything you do.
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Speaker 2 So on MSNBC,

Speaker 2 Nicole Wallace was on, and yesterday

Speaker 2 she said this.

Speaker 8 I haven't suggested that Donald Trump is Hitler.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't suggest. I don't think any Democrat has.

Speaker 9 Let's deal with Hitler, okay? Okay. Trump's affinity for Hitler was always covered under an umbrella of his stupidity.

Speaker 8 In the early days of the Nazi regime, they started slowly but surely taking away people's rights. And what we're seeing now is the very same thing.

Speaker 10 Hitler in 1933 was talking about his designs on America.

Speaker 10 And

Speaker 10 that's what Hitler himself wants explained.

Speaker 2 He is paving the way to become a Vladimir Putin or to become an Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 11 Me disagreeing with you, me calling you, you know, a wannabe Hitler, all those things are like... not necessarily saying go out and hurt somebody.

Speaker 11 And to be praising Adolf Hitler is dangerous and it's also disgusting. I don't even know what to call him.

Speaker 9 I've called him so many things, but this wannabe Hitler for sure.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she might have missed some of those. And

Speaker 2 there's many more. There's many, many more.
But we should be clear that when she calls him Hitler, she doesn't necessarily want someone to go out and hurt someone. No.
Not necessarily.

Speaker 2 No. Now, if you were to choose that,

Speaker 2 I think she'd be very open to it, but she does not necessarily say you have to go out and hurt someone because of someone. that's good.

Speaker 2 And there's no history of people saying, if I could go back in time and kill baby Hitler. Oh, no, no, no, no.
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