Best of the Program | Guest: Carol Roth | 10/28/25

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Glenn brought in a chalkboard to lay out two different paths; one leads to Marxism, the other leads to fascism. Which one will you take? Glenn fell victim to doomscrolling on social media, where he encountered the craziest conspiracy theories. Who’s funding this insane disinformation campaign? Former investment banker Carol Roth joins to discuss the currency swap America did with Argentina. Glenn and Carol also discuss the impact of Trump’s tariffs and the effect of the government shutdown.
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Speaker 1 nearish future, because the pieces are all beginning to fit together.

Speaker 1 You know, when Bill Gates comes out and says, oh, you know,

Speaker 1 it looks like the climate crisis isn't as bad as we thought it was, really.

Speaker 1 And then you have Amazon cutting 30,000 workers, what you're seeing is the beginning of the fight for energy and jobs by the big tech people.

Speaker 1 And there is a split with technology and AI and Marxism, communism, fascism.

Speaker 1 It all boils down to what are you actually for, not against. We'll talk about that.
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Speaker 1 I did something on what is true. You know,

Speaker 1 try to explain how important it is to do your own homework with what you believe. online theories.
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Speaker 1 Let me move something up. I was going to talk about this next hour, but I think this will help people really understand

Speaker 1 what is coming and why I put this chalkboard together to show you how this is going to shake out in the future.

Speaker 1 And why you really need to pay attention to the things that are happening right now. Forget about is Donald Trump going to run in 2028.
He's trolling. Don't you get it? He's trolling.

Speaker 1 So, can we talk about real issues? Let me tell you about the coming blackout.

Speaker 1 Right now, in the last few days, there is a group of lawmakers in the Mid-Atlantic, in Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Virginia. They're all sounding the alarm.

Speaker 1 And they're sounding the alarm because they believe, and I do too, that the worst power bill crisis in a generation is happening right now. Skyrocketing bills and strained grids.

Speaker 1 How is it this is happening? We've drilled, baby drilled. We've put new power plants online or old power plants we've brought back online.

Speaker 1 Well, they're saying that part of the problem is all this new green energy crap. And everybody is still saying we've got to have green energy, got to have green energy.

Speaker 1 I just want you to hear me out here for a second because I'm going to give you the reality of what's going on. Green energy is wonderful, I guess, but

Speaker 1 it is absolutely a thing that will set us back 100 years plus.

Speaker 1 Green energy does not work for the America of 2000. It certainly doesn't work today.
Every single month, a new server farm is breaking ground somewhere in America.

Speaker 1 Once a month, that means 12 new server farms this year. That is going to snowball.
By the end of 2026, you will be seeing them built and breaking ground maybe one a week.

Speaker 1 What we have so far, not building things small here, each one of these data centers, which is feeding artificial intelligence, crypto, cloud computing, they consume as much power as 50 homes all the time.

Speaker 1 Told you at the beginning of the hour, Bill Gates has just come out and said, You know what? You know, global warming is not as bad as we thought it was.

Speaker 1 It's so laughable because it is so transparent. He's so evil.

Speaker 1 It's not as bad as everybody thought it was. We got to get off this global warming bandwagon.
We got to do some things, but we need power plants. I'll tell you that right now.
Why?

Speaker 1 Do you know who Bill Gates' partner is?

Speaker 1 Open AI,

Speaker 1 Chat GPT.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's his partner.

Speaker 1 So we know why he's off this bandwagon because they're struggling right now to find enough electricity for what they're currently running, let alone the next generation of systems.

Speaker 1 You have Google, Meta, Amazon that are buying up land

Speaker 1 next to every major substation that they can find because they know what's coming. But wait a minute, they're building it near substations.
Wait, wait, hold on. Are you taking the power from my home?

Speaker 1 In many cases, yes.

Speaker 1 Listen to this. This is from the International Energy Agency.
This is something they just released. Global data center power will double

Speaker 1 by the end of 2026.

Speaker 1 That is equivalent to adding another Japan.

Speaker 1 to our energy demand. Okay.
Another Japan. And that's just for computers and server farms.
Adding Japan.

Speaker 1 What are we building to be able to serve that? Not enough.

Speaker 1 Ireland has just begun restricting the new data centers. Now, here's what's going to happen.
You're going to restrict them, and it's going to leave you in the past.

Speaker 1 Now, maybe you want to be left in the past, and that's what that chalkboard is about. Maybe you want to be left in the past, but Ireland has just said, no more server farms.
We can't do it.

Speaker 1 Parts of the Netherlands, Singapore, Singapore, Sweden, they are freezing construction now on all server farms because their grids can't handle the demand already.

Speaker 1 Tokyo's grid is so strained by the server farms that they have, blackouts have already occurred in Tokyo during peak hours.

Speaker 1 China, which is building a new coal-fire plant every week, is rationing power to factories so they can keep the AI data hubs running.

Speaker 1 So what happens when we shut down coal and stall nuclear and depend on sunshine and windmills? What happens? Who's powering the cloud?

Speaker 1 PJM, this is Mid-Atlantic Grid. PJM is one that runs it, one of the largest in the world.
They say their grid in the Mid-Atlantic is already at the breaking point.

Speaker 1 They have warned, quote, of critically tight capacity, meaning one bad storm, one bad heat wave, one bad cold spell, and you've got rolling blackouts. Okay.
Why?

Speaker 1 Because the last administration retired reliable fossil fuel plants faster than we could replace them. We didn't replace them.

Speaker 1 So we're already behind the eight ball. And now the surge and the search for power is on.
In Maryland alone, energy production has dropped as consumption has surged. Why? Because of the data centers.

Speaker 1 Virginia's data center corridor, which is

Speaker 1 the economic crown jewel of

Speaker 1 Virginia, this giant data center corridor that happens in Virginia, it now consumes, now, today, you're still figuring out what AI does, okay?

Speaker 1 It now consumes one-fifth of Virginia's total energy output. One-fifth today.

Speaker 1 Why is your electricity price going up? Why have eggs gone down? They're back to over a dollar a dozen.

Speaker 1 Why has gas gone down? It's now back to the price it was in 20, what, 18 or 19?

Speaker 1 Why are these prices going down? Yet your energy costs are skyrocketing.

Speaker 1 Chat GPT,

Speaker 1 AI,

Speaker 1 all the things that Amazon just fired 30,000 people because they're going to replace them with electric robots and machines and AI.

Speaker 1 That takes power.

Speaker 1 Imagine, you know, what happens to your price of housing when you import 10 million people. The price of housing goes through the roof and nobody can afford a house.

Speaker 1 What happens to electricity when all those people are not powered on food or, you know, have to live in a house, but just need electricity?

Speaker 1 When you have all that electricity demand for these AI systems and bots, of course the price is going to go through the roof.

Speaker 1 Especially if we are at the same time that the demand is going up, we're saying limit the number of power plants. Let's go all green.

Speaker 1 If you want green energy,

Speaker 1 and you've known this, we've said this,

Speaker 1 it's degrowth. But listen to me carefully.
I am not throwing you under the bus.

Speaker 1 If you want green energy, then you have to recognize, and maybe you're fine with this, probably are, no Bitcoin, no AI, and no modern digital economy. It doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 If you want AI and the server farms and the EVs and your self-driving car, digital infrastructure, you must start building power plants in your state right now.

Speaker 1 The problem is these two realities cannot coexist. So we're going to see a split split in the country.
Okay.

Speaker 1 The climate cult, as they're calling it,

Speaker 1 it's going to run headlong into artificial intelligence. And when that happens, lights go out in your house.
So what do you do?

Speaker 1 Let me give you two options. If you live in a state and you want to go net zero,

Speaker 1 You now have to demand right now

Speaker 1 that they stop approving new server farms in your state because that is in direct conflict with your green agenda.

Speaker 1 You cannot live in a state that is building new server farms or is supplying power to server farms across the border to another state.

Speaker 1 You must pass laws right now, and I'm not for this, but I'm just giving you the option if you're for the green energy revolution.

Speaker 1 You must stop all server farms being built in your state or they will bleed you dry.

Speaker 1 And you must also pass a law saying we are not selling our electricity over state lines for a server farm got to do it got to do it now you cannot run a trillion a trillion parameter AI model on fairy dust or solar power or wind power it doesn't happen

Speaker 1 Now, if you believe in innovation, if you believe in the free market, if you believe in progress, if you believe believe in AI,

Speaker 1 you got to call your state reps right now and demand new, stable, high-output energy plants.

Speaker 1 The president is saying that all of these companies that are building these server farms must be responsible for their own power. They must build their own power plant.

Speaker 1 You don't get anything from the grid.

Speaker 1 But that's not happening.

Speaker 1 So you need to go to your state rep and say they cannot take the grid power they cannot take the power from the people they have to create their own power and i would say and in fact if they want to do it in the state they must put some excess power into the grid

Speaker 1 because they're the ones that are going to be able to build the nuclear power plant not your state they will gas nuclear hydro whatever it takes

Speaker 1 you need to call your state and say

Speaker 1 we want power

Speaker 1 and we want the grids and we want the server farms. But if you are apathetic on this or if you are ignorant on this and you don't begin to act now, you are going to be

Speaker 1 you're going to

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 at the whims of whoever it is that's running your state. California, we know which way you're going.
But are you building server farms as well?

Speaker 1 Because if you are, Utah, you should pass a law. We are not going to sell any more power to California because they will take your power to fund their server farms, not the people, their server farms.

Speaker 1 They will buy more power from you.

Speaker 1 Which, if they're buying it from you, do you have enough for your server farms and your people in your state? Most likely, no.

Speaker 1 Unless you are doubling down on energy building right now.

Speaker 1 This is the near-term problem.

Speaker 1 Believe it or not, by the end of 2026, everybody will be very well aware of what energy is costing them

Speaker 1 and what server farms are doing to the stability of our grid.

Speaker 1 Unless people act right now, and you know, it's one thing to act at the federal level, this has to be be at your local level. And quite honestly, I want the energy in Texas.

Speaker 1 I am not, I do not want to ship our energy someplace else for somebody else's server farm if they're not pulling their own weight on electricity.

Speaker 1 Because Texas is going to have server farms out the wazoo.

Speaker 1 We are building the power plants. We're not building them fast enough, but we are building them.

Speaker 1 And until we know our population, which is growing exponentially, our population can have the power they need to live, survive, and work.

Speaker 1 And the power plant or the server farms that we are building, they have their power as well. There shouldn't be any.

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Speaker 1 Carol, welcome to the program.

Speaker 2 Hi, Glenn. How are you?

Speaker 1 Good. Can you tell me what's going on in Argentina? First of all, the currency swap.
We didn't make a loan to Argentina. We made a currency swap, which, you know, I'm not really

Speaker 1 fond of the

Speaker 1 what is it, the peso? Or what is their currency down in Argentina?

Speaker 2 The Argentinian peso. You don't have a bunch of those in your vault with all of your gold and silver?

Speaker 1 No, nope, I don't. I know.

Speaker 1 But we do now because we currency swapped, right?

Speaker 2 Yes. So this is, yeah, this is not, you know, just giving money to Argentina for its government to spend.

Speaker 2 This is a financial support, which, by the way, currency swaps are not something that's unusual. We do this all the time with our allies, with Japan and Canada and whatnot.

Speaker 2 What is unusual in this particular situation is how it's affected. So basically what happened is that we gave the Argentinian central bank dollars.

Speaker 2 We took as collateral the peso, and that is meant to support the Argentinian peso and help to stabilize its currency. And And a couple of things of note.

Speaker 2 One is how it was done is interesting because normally when we do currency swaps and we have these lines, it's done through the Federal Reserve, our central bank. This time it was not.

Speaker 2 It was done through the Treasury, through something called the ESF, the Exchange Stabilization Fund, which is sort of a black box fund that allows Treasury to move quickly. You don't need Jay Powell.

Speaker 2 You don't need the approval of Congress in order to do these things within the US.

Speaker 1 And that's what it was built for, to stabilize currency in friendly countries.

Speaker 2 And in the U.S., by the way.

Speaker 2 I can talk about the history and how we've used it in the U.S. before, but just to kind of get to the Argentinian point, we did this before the election to help

Speaker 2 stabilize things for Malay so that his government could win.

Speaker 2 But we didn't do this because we think Malay is a good guy, and we didn't do this because we think he has fabulous hair, even though we do think that.

Speaker 2 The reason we did this is to secure our interests because you know who has been making a play in Argentina and throughout Latin America.

Speaker 2 Do you know who's had a long-term currency swap line and plays with Argentina? It's another country and I'll give you all a hint, it rhymes with China.

Speaker 2 So China's influence all around the world with their Belt and Road initiatives where they're trying to dominate traditional infrastructure, digital infrastructure, financial infrastructure.

Speaker 2 We are trying to kick out their influence for national security reasons.

Speaker 2 Also, it just so happens that Argentina has the second largest reserve of lithium, as well as a smaller set of reserves of other rare earth elements that we need access to for our economic and national security.

Speaker 2 So that is what is underpinning all of this is because we don't want to be speaking Mandarin one day.

Speaker 1 It is amazing how Donald Trump, people just don't understand this. Everything he's doing in South America, he is realigning the globe.

Speaker 1 He is doing

Speaker 1 his own version of America First Great Reset,

Speaker 1 and he's just doing it by himself. I mean, it's pretty incredible, isn't it, Carol?

Speaker 2 It really is. And this is why, you know, I remember when we first had the discussion about Scott Bessett, is he the right person for Treasury? And

Speaker 2 I eased everyone's concerns.

Speaker 2 Scott Bessett made his fortune on foreign currency exchange.

Speaker 2 There is nobody who understands the machinations of how you use currency to support countries and also the impact on political influence like Scott Bessant.

Speaker 2 So he has been side by side with President Trump, who has said China's influence in South America is a national security issue. It's a priority.

Speaker 2 And at this time when we're seeing a reset of the global financial order and you have China making this very big play at the same time when we really have a serious issue with our fiscal foundation, at a minimum we need to make sure that we have our hemisphere locked down before we can do anything else.

Speaker 2 And China has really been focused on making inroads in Latin America and that is what this is all about. And it's not just about the currency swap.

Speaker 2 You talked about the importation of Argentinian beef. That is a piece of it as well.
And we have to support U.S. ranchers.
We have to make it easier for them to do business.

Speaker 2 We have to remove regulation. But this extra piece from Argentina, this is a long-term play.

Speaker 2 And I know that it's hard for people who are ranchers and who are dealing with it day to day, but this is a long-term play for national security because otherwise it's not going to be Argentinian beef.

Speaker 2 It's going to be China that owns everything.

Speaker 1 Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So I'm looking at Venezuela, Venezuela, what's happening there,

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 I don't think that's about drug running. I mean, you know, it is about drug running, but it's not.
It's about, again, taking control of this hemisphere. True or false? Absolutely.

Speaker 2 I mean, and

Speaker 2 this isn't even you or I guessing about this. This has been a stated goal of the Trump administration.

Speaker 2 One of the great things about the Trump administration is Trump, whether he intends to or not, is incredibly transparent. He will tell you what is coming.

Speaker 2 He will tell you the things that he's going to do. Even if they're couched in a different wrapper, you can look through that wrapper and see what that candy is on the inside.

Speaker 2 And he tells us about that candy. So he has been very clear that,

Speaker 2 in addition to the commodities and the rarest elements and all these things that are very plentiful in South America, we need to make sure that we have within our allies' control so that we can have access to, you do not want China to have, you know, military relationships and other very strong relationships within South America because we know what that means long-term for the United States.

Speaker 1 How is Trump doing

Speaker 1 overall?

Speaker 2 So I think overall, I think he's doing quite well. I think from a foreign policy perspective, and I've said this during the last administration, it's funny you think of him as a business guy.

Speaker 2 But from a foreign policy perspective, he's been absolutely just killing it, crushing it. He's been d doing a great job in terms of securing the borders.

Speaker 2 Obviously, we would like to see more deportations, but they're certainly trying and have some roadblocks.

Speaker 2 And I think from an economic standpoint, the fact that he has this long-term lens, even though some of the machinations I don't agree with, these are the important things.

Speaker 2 I mean, this is finally an administration who goes, wait, our military stockpile is at risk because we do not have the components in the supply chain to be able to make product.

Speaker 2 We are dependent upon products from other countries and assume that they are going to sell us those products so that we can have missiles to defend ourselves against them. That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 So finally, we have people who are addressing the long-term problems.

Speaker 2 And I think the most important thing for our country right now is that we have the runway because we cannot, you know, in three years or three and a half years turn over the reins to another set of people who want to undo all of this, who hate the United States, who want to walk that back.

Speaker 2 We need people like President Trump, like the people he's developing, who understand the long-term issues that we face that have been built up over many years from this broken fiscal foundation, from both parties, but that's where we are today, and he is doing the hard work to try to fix that.

Speaker 2 And it's not necessarily apparent to everyone who doesn't understand at this level, but it is so critical for this very important reset that we're going to have.

Speaker 1 So I know that you're not a fan of

Speaker 1 tariffs. I'm not a fan of tariffs.
Correct. However, the things that have been happening,

Speaker 1 the tariffs are not doing what everybody thought they would do. Why is that?

Speaker 2 Well, I don't necessarily agree that they're not doing what people thought they would do. I think that there's been a bit of overhype on how things are presented.

Speaker 2 So do tariffs make it more expensive for businesses and consumers to buy certain goods and services?

Speaker 2 Yes, and that has happened and I've seen that with my own eyes with my own company and joint venture partners and other small businesses across the country.

Speaker 2 There are small businesses that have had major burdens. These are the things we thought would happen and they are happening.

Speaker 2 In terms of creating runaway inflation, I don't think anybody said that at the levels they are. They said that when he kicked him up to 100%, which he walked back.

Speaker 2 But we also know when you look at inflation data that the way that that's calculated, there's a lot of picking and choosing and substitutions.

Speaker 2 So of course, when you say, oh, well, if this particular product is being hit too much, someone's going to substitute into this.

Speaker 2 Of course, it's not going to show up in the same way in the numbers as it affects people in their day-to-day lives. So again, I think it's that that nuanced understanding.

Speaker 2 It's the same thing when people said, hey, why am I at the grocery store and everything's 30% higher? And they're telling us inflation under Biden is at 4%.

Speaker 2 We know that that has to do with the calculation. So I think that tariffs are causing some issues and some pain, and hopefully that can be sorted out in time.

Speaker 2 But absent that particular strategy, I think other things that he's doing on the American front to shore up our security from an economic and national security standpoint make a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 And Carol, I mean, I think a lot of people lose sight because it was just such a big issue. You know, look, trade is important, but it is also not a huge part of our economy.

Speaker 1 Am I right that it's, you know, imported goods are about 10% of our economy. Does that number sound about right?

Speaker 2 You know, it's a small percent. I would want to go back and verify the number because I have so many things rolling around my head today.

Speaker 2 And that's not one that's top of mind, but it's not a meaningful percent of our direct economy. But where it does impact is that there's componentry that then flows through the economy.

Speaker 2 It affects domestic goods and services.

Speaker 2 So even if on a headline basis, it doesn't seem like it's that important, it can flow through the rest of the economy and create a drag and create some issues there.

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And I did last night, and I found myself in crazy town. Quickly, crazy town.

Speaker 1 My gosh, conspiracy after conspiracy after conspiracy. It's like falling down a staircase made of madness.

Speaker 1 Every step you're hearing you're like

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Speaker 1 You know, I was watching some of these things and I thought, this is, I mean, this honestly is making the most alcohol-fueled days of Alex Jones seem like Walter Cronkite's most credible moments.

Speaker 1 What is happening? It's because it's everywhere. It's everywhere.
And the bad news is... Some of it's being laundered by credible hosts.

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Have you seen the Robbie Starbucks story? So

Speaker 1 Robbie Starbuck, this story is one we should all learn from.

Speaker 1 Robbie, an actual public figure, a husband, a father, is now suing Google and Google AI because it fabricated entire stories about him for two solid years. Now, we've talked to him about this.

Speaker 1 It invented fake police records. It wrote fake timelines.
For two years, Google's artificial intelligence said he was on Jeffrey Epstein's list and had been arrested for unspeakable crimes.

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Speaker 1 No arrests, no real record, none of it, no truth to any of it, but just AI.

Speaker 1 The machine that we're told is going to save us.

Speaker 1 Made it all up.

Speaker 1 And it was relentless.

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We all saw the footage. We all saw it.
We wish we could unsee it.

Speaker 1 But within hours, the internet had already decided it was the Jews in league with his own team.

Speaker 1 And Israel was paying for it and covering up the truth. Oh.

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Oh, who is that source?

Speaker 1 An anonymous account.

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Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 many of these things either began or ended with the phrase,

Speaker 1 if this is true,

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Speaker 1 Well, if it's true, I guess it changes everything.

Speaker 1 If the sun is actually a giant light bulb and it's 25 miles in the sky, if that's true, then everything we know about space is wrong.

Speaker 1 But it's not a light bulb 25 miles up in the sky.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 That if, if,

Speaker 1 if

Speaker 1 is becoming the gateway, it's the gateway drug to paranoia. Okay?

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Speaker 1 I have to tell you, there'll be many on the left who are like, I can't believe Glenn Beck, the chief conspiracy theorist, is out there saying about conspiracy theorist. I wasn't a conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 1 Mine were based in facts.

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Speaker 1 if he said that,

Speaker 1 if that's true.

Speaker 1 No, I showed you what was true.

Speaker 1 You start with what people actually are doing, what you can prove, not what if I told you.

Speaker 1 Somebody says they're going to overthrow the West, believe them. Take them at their word.

Speaker 1 Let's start there, not with the missing piece, you know, the missing piece that, I don't know, if we could just find this piece, then it would all fit together, wouldn't it? Yeah, well, it would.

Speaker 1 Let me explain to you the danger of this and what you need to understand.

Speaker 1 All of this is predictable. In fact,

Speaker 1 I predicted it in about 2006, and I used the moonshot as an example, and I used George W. Bush and the lies of

Speaker 1 weapons of mass destruction as an example.

Speaker 1 Because these things were not true,

Speaker 1 if our government doesn't start correcting these things,

Speaker 1 having people pay for the crimes of, I lied. Yes, I lied.
I shouldn't have lied. Maybe you go to jail for that lie.
But you at least pay a price for that lie.

Speaker 1 And unless those things are cleared up, I said, right now,

Speaker 1 the number of people who believe we went to the moon is 93%.

Speaker 1 7% don't believe we went to the moon. You get 7% to believe just about anything.

Speaker 1 But mark my words, if we don't correct that, you will see it in the number of people who no longer believe we went to the moon. This is in 2006.

Speaker 1 Have you met people who say, we never went to the moon?

Speaker 1 We never went to the moon. That is all a lie.

Speaker 1 I met lots of them. Lots of them.
And And a lot of them, I think, I thought,

Speaker 1 that's a pretty intelligent person. You know, I've been watching this thing on the internet.
Oh,

Speaker 1 really? Really? Anybody who gets their news from the internet is dumber than somebody who doesn't get their news from anywhere.

Speaker 1 Just don't get news.

Speaker 1 over than getting your news from

Speaker 1 the scrolling online. I get all my news, you know, from Facebook.
I get everything I need to know from X. Oh, really? You're a moron.

Speaker 1 Here's the problem. Our government has lost all of its credibility.
Our institutions, their trust has evaporated. And this madness is only going to grow.

Speaker 1 Because if you no longer believe in anything, you will believe everything.

Speaker 1 That's what's happening. You can't argue with this stuff because you'll say that didn't happen.

Speaker 1 Wait, you mean that if Erica did it and the Jews did it, that means that Donald Trump is in on it. That's right.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh my, okay, your whole world has just fallen apart. Everything that you thought you believed is gone now.

Speaker 1 We are drowning in digital rumors

Speaker 1 because we stop trusting

Speaker 1 our own ability to find what's real.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you, and that's an honest question.

Speaker 1 Is there a public voice that you trust today

Speaker 1 that will tell you it's not as bad as you think it is?

Speaker 1 Is there anybody that you trust

Speaker 1 that is saying, you know what?

Speaker 1 Don't, don't, don't, don't go there. Please don't go there.

Speaker 1 Is there anybody that you trust that will say, you know what, I used to think this, but I don't think that anymore?

Speaker 1 Because if they can't say that, then they're not a thinking human being. If they're exactly the way they were 25 years ago, they are dead inside.

Speaker 1 They're not searching for anything because everything in the world has changed.

Speaker 1 But that doesn't mean you throw everything.

Speaker 1 We didn't go to the moon.

Speaker 1 Yes, we did. Yes, we did.
Yes, we did.

Speaker 1 I don't trust the media. I don't trust Congress.
I honestly don't trust the FBI.

Speaker 1 I don't know who to trust. I don't know who to trust.

Speaker 1 And I'm not alone. You're not alone.
According to Gallup, trust in newspapers has dropped 18%. Who knew newspapers were even being printed? Television news is at 14%.

Speaker 1 That's an all-time low.

Speaker 1 And when nobody believes anything, everyone starts believing everything and anyone. People that you've never...

Speaker 1 I know people who have listened to me for years. I've trusted you for a long time.
But I just saw Bozo...

Speaker 1 Bozo the nose clown.

Speaker 1 You mean Bozo the clown? No. Something entirely different.
I've never even heard of this guy. But I heard him say this, and I believe him over you.
Really? Bozo the nose clown.

Speaker 1 You've never seen him before. You don't know anything about him.

Speaker 1 But somehow or another, he's earned your respect in that 47-second video that disproves to you

Speaker 1 all my credibility is gone, who you've listened to for years.

Speaker 1 Wow, you're a thinking human being.

Speaker 1 We are weeks. I don't believe years, we are weeks away,

Speaker 1 months, probably more accurate, from you no longer being able to believe your eyes at all. Okay? That has always been the test.
I'll believe it when I see it.

Speaker 1 Well, you're going to see deep fakes and you're not going to know what to believe.

Speaker 1 I mean, deep fakes already fake major newsrooms. They fools newsrooms.

Speaker 1 Last year, the Pentagon had to issue a correction because a fake AI-generated explosion photo near the White House caused a brief dip in the stock market. It wasn't true.

Speaker 1 But act on it, act on it, act on it. That's how fragile the truth has become, and it's only going to get worse.

Speaker 1 Some of the conspiracies that are floating around right now

Speaker 1 say that foreign money is infiltrating groups like Turning Point USA. Maybe, could be.
Could be. Wouldn't doubt it.
I'd think foreign money is trying to influence everything.

Speaker 1 We're vulnerable right now.

Speaker 1 But here's the question I don't hear anybody asking.

Speaker 1 Is there any foreign money funding the conspiracy themselves?

Speaker 1 Troll farms in St. Petersburg? The Chinese bot networks amplifying division on both the left and the right?

Speaker 1 I mean, we have the facts, according to cybersecurity firm Recorded Future. Russia and China run coordinated campaigns every single day pushing disinformation

Speaker 1 designed to make Americans hate each other. Let me ask you this question.
Who benefits when we tear ourselves apart? Who gains when we can't agree on anything, not even reality?

Speaker 1 I'll give you a hint.

Speaker 1 You don't win.

Speaker 1 I don't win.

Speaker 1 America doesn't win.

Speaker 1 There's only one way to solve this that I can think of at this time.

Speaker 1 Two. You have to have the spirit with you.
You just have to have the spirit with you. You have to have something that will testify to you of truth when you can't find it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Second thing is, know what you're for, not what you're against.

Speaker 1 So many of these conspiracies are built on what you're against or you're supposed to be against. Look for the things that you're for.

Speaker 1 What is it that that you're for?

Speaker 1 Because when everything becomes a conspiracy, when everyone becomes the enemy, when every, if this is true, becomes your next truth, you're standing up against everything and you're not standing for anything.

Speaker 1 You're standing for nothing.

Speaker 1 And that's how civilizations fall. How many people do you know that are standing for something,

Speaker 1 not against?

Speaker 1 Civilizations fall not through invasion, but through infection, infection of the mind and the spirit and of the truth itself.

Speaker 1 Know what you're for.

Speaker 1 Before you share that next breaking post,

Speaker 1 say,

Speaker 1 stop and ask yourself:

Speaker 1 who does this benefit?

Speaker 1 Is this for something or against something?

Speaker 1 Before you say, if this is true, stop yourself.

Speaker 1 Who benefits if just I believe this?

Speaker 1 Because the real conspiracy here, the one that is really sweeping America, the one our enemies, and I mean that spiritually and temporally, the real enemies of the truth,

Speaker 1 the real conspiracy. is the one that convinces you to stop believing in truth altogether.

Speaker 1 And we are close to that.

Speaker 1 Find the things that you know are true and build on those things.

Speaker 1 It's really scary.

Speaker 1 It's really scary,

Speaker 1 but it is so freeing when you'll just clean out everything that you think you believe, but you haven't earned that yourself.

Speaker 1 I started with religion. I was taught.
I listened to other people. I didn't find God myself.

Speaker 1 I didn't search myself. It was taught to me.
Well, you can't live on somebody else's testimony.

Speaker 1 Is your testimony of this country, is your testimony of why you believe in the free market system, if you do, or why you believe in Marxism, because you've torn it apart?

Speaker 1 Because you've looked at it from all sides?

Speaker 1 Most likely not.

Speaker 1 But that's the only way you can actually defend something. Otherwise, you're just going to be blowing in the wind.
And that's what's happening. We're all blowing in the wind.

Speaker 1 What was true today, suddenly, because Bozo the nose is on,

Speaker 1 all of a sudden, nope, I don't believe any of that stuff anymore. Because there's something in you that tells you you're being lied to.
And you are being lied to. You are.

Speaker 1 But go deeper.

Speaker 1 Look for the things that are true.

Speaker 1 You cannot find the truth if you don't have some sort of rock you're standing on. You will be blown apart and lost at sea.

Speaker 1 Find the rock first and build on that rock.

Speaker 1 Then you can go online and go, that's true. That's not true.
That's true. That I should investigate some more.
There's lots of things that I don't believe are true that I'm investigating.

Speaker 1 I want to know.

Speaker 1 But you can't do it if you don't know who you are and what anchors you.

Speaker 1 Please, anchor yourself and then anchor your family.

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