CONCERNING: Why Are Democrats Urging Military to DEFY Trump? | 11/19/25

2h 10m
President Trump is poised to authorize CIA plans for covert action in Venezuela. At the same time, a group of Democrats put out a video urging the military to ignore Trump's orders that they claim are illegal. Glenn breaks down the Democrats' real motive for the video. Stu and Glenn react to Democrat Delegate Stacey Plaskett (D), who was texting with Epstein during a congressional hearing, somehow avoiding censure. Texas Governor Greg Abbott (R) made a big move yesterday by designating the Muslim Brotherhood and the Council on American-Islamic Relations as terrorist organizations. Glenn breaks down the history of these groups and why this decision was long overdue. Why do leftists single out AIPAC while ignoring all the other foreign lobby organizations? Glenn and Jason dive a little deeper into the capabilities you'll have if you subscribe to the Torch. Stu gives the full story of journalist Olivia Nuzzi and her current scandal. Glenn plays another preview of his exclusive interview with Cracker Barrel executives.
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Speaker 1 How you doing? Glenn, I'm good.

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Speaker 3 It's a big day. Lots of stuff going on.

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Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
So let's start with Venezuela.

Speaker 1 The New York Times is now reporting that Trump has been said to authorize CIA plans for covert action in Venezuela.

Speaker 1 Now, when I read this story, I thought to myself, didn't I read this story about three or four weeks ago?

Speaker 1 I think this is the exact story. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Do you remember it? I think this is the exact story that the New York Times or somebody else came out with about four weeks ago.

Speaker 1 We have Jason here who watches, you know, this kind of stuff. Am I right in thinking that, Jason? Just heard this.

Speaker 4 Three, four weeks ago or a month ago. Something like that.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Just heard this. There's nothing new here.

Speaker 1 So what exactly is the New York Times doing?

Speaker 4 They're parroting what they were slipped from their unnamed source. Imagine that.

Speaker 1 So what do you mean they were slipped from an unnamed source?

Speaker 1 What do you mean by that?

Speaker 4 There's no way this is a leak. Like, oh, we got to get this out because it's like atrocious what's happening.

Speaker 1 This is approved, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 This is something that you're seeing the deep state in action. Somebody wants to make sure that

Speaker 1 this is

Speaker 1 circled around. So everybody's like, oh, my gosh, what are we doing in Venezuela? What are we doing in Venezuela? We've already told you what we're doing in Venezuela.

Speaker 1 This is to secure the Western Hemisphere, to get China out of the Western Hemisphere.

Speaker 1 This has everything to do with that little training island that we told you about a year or two ago, where Hamas and Hezbollah are training people in Venezuela, just off the coast.

Speaker 1 That's what this is about. This is to stop the infiltration of the Islamic radicals

Speaker 1 in cahoots with Maduro in Venezuela. That's what this is about.
And the Chinese are an extra added benefit. You know, don't believe the, you know, well, it's the drugs.

Speaker 1 I mean, if it was a drug thing, we would also be going after Mexico. I mean, not that that doesn't play a role, but

Speaker 1 it's only part of the story. And we've told you that.

Speaker 1 And now, you know, Trump authorizing plans for the CIA. Yeah, we know that.
You said that to us long ago.

Speaker 1 Now, at the same time that is happening, there was a video that was released released from the Democrats. Now, these are Democrats

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 are currently, you know, in power, big-name Democrats. And listen to what they're telling the troops and intel officers.
Listen to this.

Speaker 5 I'm Senator Alyssa Slotkin.

Speaker 1 Senator Mark Kelly. Representative Chris DeLuzio.

Speaker 5 Congresswoman Maggie Goodlandier. Representative Chrissy Houlihan.

Speaker 1 Congressman Jason Crowe.

Speaker 6 That was a captain in the United States Navy.

Speaker 5 Former CIA officer.

Speaker 6 Former Former Navy.

Speaker 1 Former paratrooper and Army Ranger.

Speaker 5 Former intelligence officer. Former Air Force.

Speaker 6 We want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community who take risks each day to keep Americans safe.

Speaker 5 We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military.

Speaker 1 But that trust is at risk.

Speaker 6 This administration is pitting our uniformed military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens.

Speaker 5 Like us, you all swore an oath to protect and defend this Constitution.

Speaker 1 Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear.
You can refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 5 You can refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 1 You must refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 5 No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

Speaker 6 We know this is hard and that it's a difficult time to be a public servant.

Speaker 1 But whether you're serving in the CIA, in the Army, our Navy, the Air Force, your vigilance is critical.

Speaker 5 And know that we have your back. Because now, more than ever, the American people need you.

Speaker 1 We need you to stand up for our laws, our Constitution, and who we are as Americans. Don't give up.
Don't give up. Don't give up.

Speaker 5 Don't give up the ship.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 So I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, I agree 100% with everything they just said. 100%.

Speaker 1 My question is,

Speaker 1 why are they saying it?

Speaker 1 What illegal orders? And why now?

Speaker 1 Are you telling me that all of the stuff with USAID, all of the stuff that was going on with the FBI, with our intelligence community, with Russia, Russia, Russia, all of that stuff was on the up and up?

Speaker 1 They had no concern about that.

Speaker 1 When Barack Obama was targeting U.S. citizens to be droned, U.S.
citizens to be droned, they had no problem with it.

Speaker 1 And now all of a sudden, because of what? Venezuela?

Speaker 1 Now, all of a sudden, they have a problem. No, I don't think so.
I think

Speaker 1 this is the beginning of a campaign.

Speaker 1 And again, all it does is sow seeds of doubt, not in the mind of the military, not in the mind of, well, maybe CIA, but I think CIA is off on their own territory anyway.

Speaker 1 This sows the seed of doubt in the mind of the average American. They're now sowing the seed saying Donald Trump is doing something unconstitutional with our military.
What What is it? Speak clearly.

Speaker 1 Don't say we're under pressure.

Speaker 1 Speak clearly. What exactly is he doing that is unconstitutional that

Speaker 1 they should disobey? I'd like to know what it is.

Speaker 1 Because all this is doing is undermining.

Speaker 3 Is it Venezuela? Like, did they state, you know. No, they didn't say that.
It's just generalized advice. Whatever you do, don't.

Speaker 3 That seems really sketchy because we were talking about this a little bit off the air and that, like, there's a version of that that's like treasonous, right?

Speaker 3 Like you're telling the military to not listen to the commander-in-chief. Now, I don't think that was the version of it that is treasonous.
I think that that was worded very carefully.

Speaker 3 And as you point out, like, I don't think anyone would disagree that if there's something blatantly illegal, you shouldn't be doing it.

Speaker 3 But I guess their idea is

Speaker 3 some of these, is it maybe Venezuela, are they trying to encourage these people to not drone the ships? Like,

Speaker 3 what's the ask here?

Speaker 1 They didn't mention, I don't know.

Speaker 1 They're just sending out, that's why this seems so unbelievably

Speaker 1 calculated to cause chaos.

Speaker 1 Because they're not sowing seeds in the doubt of the minds of the military. They are sowing the seeds of doubt in the mind of the U.S.
public. This went out to everybody in the whole world.

Speaker 1 And what it is sending is a message to the whole world. Our president is so bad that we in Congress need to tell the military do not obey him.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 can you be specific? On what exactly?

Speaker 1 On what exactly?

Speaker 1 No, they can't be specific. If you could be specific, I would have no problem.

Speaker 1 If you came out with that message and you said, look,

Speaker 1 we just want to restate the policy of the United States. Whether the president is a Republican or a Democrat,

Speaker 1 you do not have to obey the Commander of Chief if he is asking for things that are unconstitutional. For instance, if he asks you to do X, Y, or Z.
They're not just talking about as well as

Speaker 1 the military. What's intriguing to me is they're also including the

Speaker 1 Who in their right mind today thinks the CIA is under control?

Speaker 1 Who in their right mind thinks the CIA is actually living within the constitutional bounds? Because I don't. Do you? Do you know anybody who thinks that? Left or right?

Speaker 1 Does anybody, within a sound of my voice, think that the CIA is actually

Speaker 1 contained

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 living in its own

Speaker 1 little space constitutionally where it should be. Does anyone actually believe that they answer to Congress?

Speaker 1 Because I don't. Do you still? Do you, Jason?

Speaker 4 I think the establishment of the CIA is actually

Speaker 4 anti-constitutional,

Speaker 1 to be perfectly honest.

Speaker 4 I don't think that an organization like the CIA can operate within the bounds of disclosure with

Speaker 4 letting Congress know everything that they're doing.

Speaker 1 doing it can't operate that way so I think all too many times they understand that and they just do whatever the heck they want to do it's all black ops it's all black ops stuff and

Speaker 1 you know look at what where where was this message uh when we found out uh from what was the guy who blew the whistle and went to russia what was his name um snowden snowden snowden where where was this message with snowden

Speaker 1 when that came out hey if you're in the nsa you're in the CIA, you can't be doing this stuff. So blow the whistle.
Where was that?

Speaker 1 Where has this been, this message been, when any of the whistleblowers have come out?

Speaker 1 Where is this with the whistleblowers that are coming out today about what the CIA has been doing, what the intelligence community has been involved in?

Speaker 1 Where was this message?

Speaker 1 This is not an honest message. That's the problem with this.
This is not an honest message. This is part of color revolution.
I'm convinced of it. This is just sow the seeds of doubt.

Speaker 1 Make sure that you are positioning the president as somebody who is so radical and so unconstitutional

Speaker 1 that they have to tell the military not to obey his orders without any specifics whatsoever.

Speaker 1 That's pretty remarkable.

Speaker 1 Because again, I don't have a problem with saying that we're one of the only countries. You do not answer to the President of the United States.
You do not answer to your general.

Speaker 1 You answer to the Constitution of the United States. That's absolutely true.
So I have no problem with this message being taught. It should be taught by every single president.

Speaker 1 President.

Speaker 1 But it's not. They have seen so many abuses under their rule, and now all of a sudden, you get this?

Speaker 1 Where was this message when the president used the military as a prop

Speaker 1 behind him in the speech where it was blood red and biden was saying these are enemies of the state you can't do that with the military

Speaker 1 where was this message from anyone hey

Speaker 1 You cannot be used as a prop behind the president. You cannot do that.

Speaker 1 I didn't hear anybody saying that because they don't have a problem with it. If it's their side, they don't have a problem with it.
I have a problem with it on both sides.

Speaker 1 I want the military and I want the military. Let me separate these.
I want the military to know,

Speaker 1 we have your back. If the president, any president, is ordering you to do things that are unconstitutional, do not do them.
Do not do them.

Speaker 1 Blow the whistle, and the American people should have your back. I know I will have your back.

Speaker 1 To the

Speaker 1 intelligence community, you better stop doing what you're doing

Speaker 1 because I know the American people, and I don't know if you can be stopped, but I know the American people know that you're doing things that you should not be doing and you've been doing them under every president for God only knows how long.

Speaker 1 Stop doing it. Because if we ever get into the position where we can stop you, we will.
And the American people will demand a trial for every single one of you that was breaking the Constitution.

Speaker 1 Don't care who ordered you to do it. It's your responsibility to say no.

Speaker 1 And you haven't. You haven't.

Speaker 1 Start saying no to any president, any boss, anybody who is telling you to violate the U.S. Constitution.
Don't do it. Don't do it.

Speaker 1 But I don't think that's the reason why they're saying it.

Speaker 4 No, and they know this because all of them

Speaker 4 are veterans of the military or the intelligence community. They know, and I've gone through these before, there's already, this is stating the obvious.

Speaker 4 This is already taught from the lowest enlistment rates all the way up to the top, you know, within, you know, Officer Can at school and within the military.

Speaker 1 There are procedures, if you ever have an unlawful order, how to, you know,

Speaker 1 work through it and report it. Stu, what do you think this is really about? What are they doing?

Speaker 3 It feels like it's about politics, right? I mean, it feels like they are trying to

Speaker 3 build a case that the president is continually engaging in things that are illegal and unconstitutional. And like when you see, you bring up color revolution,

Speaker 3 I think it's, I mean, there's a political element to that, and I think so they may very well be related. But if you think about like

Speaker 3 it might be about Venezuela, but I don't think the American people really care about that story. I mean, I don't, you know, I don't know that that's necessarily healthy that we don't care about it.

Speaker 3 I think there are some real questions about the process here and how all of this has gone down.

Speaker 3 But, like, I almost feel like it's more related to something like, you know, immigration enforcement in the United States. And that's not, you know, because we've talked about

Speaker 3 the military being involved in cracking down on cities and things of that nature, where like, you know, we've talked about the questions around them.

Speaker 3 There are legitimate questions about how much can be done in that realm.

Speaker 3 I wonder if they're trying to kind of set that precedent, this sort of tone that the president is engaging in these things and slowly over time you can build to not only a political answer, but maybe the color revolution angle and also the chaos in the streets angle.

Speaker 3 At some point, if you believe your president is doing unconstitutional things and forcing the military of the United States to engage in actions that are unconstitutional against the American people, man, you're going to get a lot of people out in the streets for that one if this thing were to be successful.

Speaker 3 So I think that might be the path. Do you buy that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do. I just think that it is, I think the main goal here is just to undermine credibility, just undermine and tear us apart even more, undermine credibility, sow the seeds of chaos once again.

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Yeah,

Speaker 3 he's an idiot. And obviously, we don't need him helping our country right now.
Why? Because he voted for lower taxes or something.

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Speaker 1 History is going to look back and go, at one point they just became morons.

Speaker 3 Do you find it interesting, Glenn, he was at this dinner with the Saudi Arabian

Speaker 3 delegation, I guess. Trump did a dinner and invited a bunch of VIPs to it.

Speaker 3 I thought a good sign from the perspective of the relationship between Trump and Elon Musk that he was invited and was there, right? Like, I mean, remember, they had a total falling out.

Speaker 3 It was over the Epstein files

Speaker 3 not.

Speaker 1 No, they made nice at Charlie Kirk's

Speaker 3 funeral. So that's, do you think, totally repaired, or at least somewhat repaired at this point?

Speaker 1 Yeah, somewhat repaired. Yeah, I think, you know, and

Speaker 1 if you're trying to showcase the best of America, who better to have at the table than Elon Musk?

Speaker 1 I mean, he is

Speaker 1 the Tesla or the Edison of our day. There's nobody.

Speaker 1 Is there anybody in the world that everybody,

Speaker 1 with an exception of those who are just so politically, you know,

Speaker 1 I don't know, pilled that they just can't stand anybody that votes differently than them. I mean, even when he was, you know, we thought he was a real big lefty, I still wanted to meet the guy.

Speaker 1 I still wanted to be like, you know, man, I would give my right arm to sit and listen to that guy in the same room. You know what I mean? Be great.

Speaker 1 This is... This is a guy who will be remembered for hundreds of years

Speaker 1 after Jesus comes.

Speaker 1 Well, we may not have history books at that point, but he's going to be remembered for hundreds of years as one of the greatest human beings ever when there were still human beings.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, who doesn't want to meet that guy?

Speaker 1 How is it that

Speaker 1 we have half our country now just hating on that guy?

Speaker 1 He's genius. It's really.

Speaker 1 Would you be happier if he were Chinese?

Speaker 3 Thank God he's here and wants to be here, right? You know, and wants to be in this environment. I think that

Speaker 3 you look at everything.

Speaker 3 It's going to be a great biopic. Like the movie on Elon Musk's life is going to be absolutely incredible because he is a somewhat complicated figure at times.

Speaker 3 There's a lot to discuss in the Elon Musk front.

Speaker 3 But like, just think of the fact that this guy has put, I don't know, you know, hundreds of thousands, millions of cars on the road right now that are, you know, capable and are driving themselves.

Speaker 3 I mean, think of that. That's like an incredible accomplishment.
This is a guy who's putting cars that are not, you know, they have full self-driving.

Speaker 3 You can sit in there, the thing will drive itself from point A to point B without you touching really anything. And that is,

Speaker 3 think about the fact that that's just being said, that even people are allowed, you know, that governments are just like, yeah, I guess we trust this guy to let all these cars drive themselves.

Speaker 3 It's an amazing accomplishment. That's just one of many.
It really is an amazing life.

Speaker 1 Now, let me tell you about the Epstein files. They voted, the House voted, and then the Senate voted.
And I don't think the president has signed it yet, but he should. He should sign it this morning.

Speaker 1 Just get it done.

Speaker 1 To release all of the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 And, you know,

Speaker 1 it's pretty amazing to me that

Speaker 1 here's the worst part of this thing.

Speaker 1 As they're discussing all of the parts of the Epstein files, they decide that

Speaker 1 they make a deal in the back room not to go after, we won't investigate Corey Mills. You don't investigate, what's her name, that was

Speaker 1 texting

Speaker 1 Plaskett, was texting

Speaker 1 with Epstein during the impeachment hearings. And he's saying to her, here's what you need to ask.
And she's so clueless, she has no idea. She thinks Rona is an acronym.

Speaker 1 Then she thinks Rona is a last name. And then she has no idea.
She has no idea what she's talking about.

Speaker 1 And she's just taking her marching orders from Epstein. And then when she says, you know, when they ask her about it, she's like, well,

Speaker 1 I was just conversing with a constituent. Oh.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 does Nancy Pelosi, does she ask questions, you know, from another constituent of hers, Charles Manson? What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Constituent. First of all, I don't think he can even vote or couldn't vote at the time.
He's probably voting now, at least in Chicago. But

Speaker 1 when he was a convicted felon, he can't vote, right?

Speaker 1 Right. So what constituent is that?

Speaker 3 I mean, I guess technically still a constituent, but I mean,

Speaker 1 not a voting one. Not a voting one.
Not one you should care about.

Speaker 3 Also, one of the most notorious criminals in our society, the fact that you take advice as to how to question someone in a congressional hearing.

Speaker 3 And like, honestly, the Epstein part of it is almost secondary. The fact that she was taking this advice blindly from anyone is so embarrassing.

Speaker 3 As you point out, she didn't even know enough about what she was saying in a congressional hearing to know whether it was a name or an acronym. That is like,

Speaker 3 you shouldn't take that from your best friend. You shouldn't ask that question until you understand what the question is, let alone one of the most notorious child molesters in our nation's history.

Speaker 3 It is a legitimately incredible story. If you can't censure her for that, I don't think there's any line.

Speaker 1 Now, let me switch topics to this. Noam Chomsky.
Did you read this story? Noam Chomsky, widely regarded as the founder of modern linguistics. okay,

Speaker 1 listen to what he said in a letter, in several letters, about

Speaker 1 Epstein.

Speaker 1 He said

Speaker 1 he refers to Epstein as a, quote, regular source of stimulation.

Speaker 1 You know, if you are a guy who's known for linguistics, that's probably not the phrase that you would pick, a regular source of stimulation. I met Jeffrey Epstein

Speaker 1 half a dozen years ago. We've been in regular

Speaker 1 contact since with many long and often in-depth conversations about a very wide range of topics, including our own specialities and professional work.

Speaker 1 But a host of others, we have many shared interests. Probably not something you would want to put down in writing because these happened after he was known.

Speaker 1 The impact of Jeffrey's limitless curiosity, extensive knowledge, and penetrating insights. Again, you don't use penetrating when you're talking about Epstein.
Maybe that's just me.

Speaker 1 So you've got now Noam Chomsky, who is buddying up with him. You have Hakeem Jeffries now soliciting donations from Epstein, asked him to meet with Obama.

Speaker 1 This again is after he has been deemed a sex criminal.

Speaker 1 And you have Hakeem asking, hey, can we get some money from you?

Speaker 1 Then you also have, as we talked about a minute ago, Plaskett

Speaker 1 doing his bidding. We have Larry Summers, who is, you know, a good friend of Bill Clinton,

Speaker 1 asking for advice on how to get horizontal

Speaker 1 with this woman he was teaching. a Chinese macro economist.

Speaker 1 She was

Speaker 1 a tenured London School of Economics professor, Harvard graduate, daughter of a Chinese associate of President Z.

Speaker 1 And he writes to Epstein, his quote wingman,

Speaker 1 that he was chasing this woman and delivered a, again, you don't write this if you're writing about Epstein, a blow-by-blow of his pursuits of this Chinese woman. Through their

Speaker 1 correspondent Summers and Epstein referred to the woman as Peril,

Speaker 1 never using her name. In one such exchange, Summer asked Epstein whether it was meaningful to talk about the probability of getting my getting horizontal with Peril.

Speaker 1 You are better at understanding Chinese women than

Speaker 1 at probability theory. Epstein went on to suggest the probability of Summers ending up in bed with her was zero.
By the way, she was in her 40s. He was in his 70s.
But she's never going to find a

Speaker 1 Larry Summers either. People speculated online, the nickname is drawn from the Yellow Peril Trope.

Speaker 1 Oh, good. Good.

Speaker 1 This is a guy, by the way.

Speaker 1 I don't care what anybody does in

Speaker 1 their spare time, you know, as long as everybody is legal.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is a woman who, you know, Larry Summers was with the Treasury, not at this time, but he's high up in government. I bet he probably still had his top secret clearance at the time.

Speaker 1 He was with

Speaker 1 Bill Clinton all the time, and he wants to make it with this Chinese woman who is into economics and good friends and in, not in bed, literally, but in bed with President Z of China. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't want to know who's sleeping with who. I don't really care.
But this seems to be a problem.

Speaker 1 And the

Speaker 1 letters between the two, they're just disgusting. They're really disgusting.
And this is a guy who's still teaching at Harvard. Hey, keep your standards really high, Harvard.
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Speaker 1 Governor Abbott has done something great in Texas, something that I wish, you know, the rest of the country would do because I think it is really, really important.

Speaker 3 However, it's dangerous.

Speaker 1 A little dangerous. Abbott issued a proclamation yesterday.

Speaker 1 He's designating two groups as foreign terrorist organizations and transnational criminal organizations under the Texas Penal and Texas Property Codes.

Speaker 1 The two organizations, the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE.

Speaker 1 Both of those, he says, have made their goals very, very clear, to impose Sharia law and establish Islam's mastership of the world. They are now illegal in Texas.
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Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 there are chapters in American history and world history that are too implite to revisit. as if silence can, you know, stand down the jagged edges of truth.
But it's not.

Speaker 1 Those forgotten chapters will eventually roar back and remind us that the past is not a museum. It is a map.

Speaker 1 So while we're looking at Texas saying Muslim Brotherhood and CARE are terrorist organizations,

Speaker 1 let's look at where they came from.

Speaker 1 I want to tell you about a man whose fingerprints run through some of the darkest moments of the last century and whose ideological children still walk the earth and are cause of many of the problems that we have.

Speaker 1 His name is Haj Amin al-Husani. He is the grand or was the grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

Speaker 1 The West, they don't even know who he is. They treat him as a footnote.
He's not.

Speaker 1 Because the Grand Mufti was not just a regional religious leader. He became one of the most influential collaborators with Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 1 And he built a bridge between European fascism and Middle Eastern extremism. And an architect, He was an architect of a worldview that continues to claim lives all across the globe.

Speaker 1 What you see happening with the Muslim Brotherhood, what you see happening in Europe, what you see happening here in the United States.

Speaker 1 He was the architect of all of this.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 let me take you through

Speaker 1 some of this here, walk you through the story that history has tried to bury.

Speaker 1 In 1941, El Husani sat face to face with Adolf Hitler in Berlin. He didn't come seeking peace.
He didn't come pleading for the protection of his people. He came to offer help.

Speaker 1 He pledged support for the Nazi cause in exchange for a promise that the Third Reich would extend its final solution to the Jews living in the Middle East. Now, this is not speculation.

Speaker 1 This isn't rumor. This is recorded, documented, corroborated history.

Speaker 1 If you want to understand where all of this hatred is coming from, you want to understand what's coming next, another Holocaust, you have to see where this poison jumped when it jumped from Germany at the very end.

Speaker 1 It jumped to the Middle East. Now,

Speaker 1 this is a guy who urged Hitler and later Himmler to export the Holocaust to Jerusalem, Cairo, Baghdad, and beyond.

Speaker 1 He broadcasts speeches on Nazi radio, and he told the Arab listeners, kill the Jews wherever you find them. And he wasn't just talking.

Speaker 1 He helped recruit tens of thousands of Muslims into Nazi SS divisions, including the 13th Waffen Mountain Division.

Speaker 1 These are the units that carried out massacres all across the Balkans.

Speaker 1 We have this history documented at our museum. Soon, next year, you'll be able to see the uniforms and all of the documents that we have in our museum.
You'll be able to see it with George A.I.

Speaker 1 sometime next year when we start making all of the artifacts available online. But

Speaker 1 this

Speaker 1 was not a man misled by politics. This was a man intoxicated by a genocidal dream.
When the Nazi war machine fell, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem did not retreat into exile.

Speaker 1 He redirected his energies. He became a driving force behind the Arab higher committee, which rejected, see if this sounds familiar, every peaceful compromise proposed for the region.

Speaker 1 He used Nazi frameworks, propaganda, racial conspiracy,

Speaker 1 all kinds of really sick ideology, and injected them into the bloodstream of a fractured Middle East. And then came his most lasting legacy.
He mentored a young relative.

Speaker 1 And this young relative,

Speaker 1 his name was Yasser Arafat.

Speaker 1 Arafat would go on to lead the PLO.

Speaker 1 Now, this was an organization whose chapter or charter was in 1964 was really explicit. The destruction of Israel, no two-state solution, no coexistence, elimination.

Speaker 1 This is the Mufti's ideology, and it flowed directly into creation of groups that made terror a political tool long before it became a global epidemic. And from that poison well sprang Fatah,

Speaker 1 Black September, the PLO,

Speaker 1 Islamic Jihad,

Speaker 1 Hamas,

Speaker 1 Muslim Brotherhood, all different names, same infection.

Speaker 1 If you look at Hamas, their founding charter reads like a grotesque remix of the Mufti's 1930s and 1940s propaganda, complete with conspiracy theories lifted directly from the Nazi tracks, including the protocols of the elders of Zion.

Speaker 1 This is a document that he spread everywhere through the Middle East. This is the ideological genealogy that you'll never hear explained in polite conversation.

Speaker 1 Everybody thinks that they're just so bright and so brilliant. Yeah, you know what who's controlling everything? The Jews.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 the Jews are really the ones who are really the Nazis. And it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 Because they're under the stupid belief that Nazism died in a bunker. It didn't.
Some of it fled to Cairo and to Damascus and back to Jerusalem, and then it metastasized.

Speaker 1 And today, the echo still shakes the walls.

Speaker 1 When you hear the terrorists chanting about the annihilation of Israel, when you see school textbooks teaching children that Jews are descendant from apes and pigs, when you watch mobs in European cities chanting gas the Jews, you are looking at the shadow of the grand mufti of Jerusalem.

Speaker 1 And not because he created hatred, hatred's ancient. He systematized it.
He modernized it. He married it to the 20th century totalitarianism.

Speaker 1 He took old prejudices and gave them the machinery of modern propaganda.

Speaker 1 And he forged his links between fascism and Islamism that still animate the organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Speaker 1 Groups whose goals are not political compromise, but eradication, purification, and the crushing of the Western ideals.

Speaker 1 It's so frustrating to know history and then to hear people,

Speaker 1 especially the youth, just spout stuff off. They have no idea how much they're being used.

Speaker 1 And we have to invite them to, because they don't know. They just don't know.
Nobody's teaching this stuff.

Speaker 1 And this is not about smearing millions of peaceful Muslims. It's just about identifying the ideological architecture behind the most toxic, violent, and expansionist movements on earth.

Speaker 1 And at the center of that architecture stands the grand Mufti of Jerusalem. And if we ignore this, we ignore it at our own peril.

Speaker 1 If you understand the Mufti's role, the present suddenly becomes very, very clear. Why anti-Semitism exploding globally? How is this happening? Why radical organizations can't accept any compromise?

Speaker 1 Why from the river to the sea isn't a chant, it's a promise of destruction? Why every ceasefire becomes a pause, never peace? Why every concession is interpreted not as goodwill, but as weakness.

Speaker 1 This stuff didn't start last week. It didn't start on October 7th.
It didn't start with the creation of Israel.

Speaker 1 The roots run back over a century ago to a man who believed the genocide of Europe should be replicated in the Middle East. And today, his

Speaker 1 ideological heirs wear masks, they hold rifles, they teach children to hate before they can read.

Speaker 1 And it's all from this guy who's not just a historic figure, the Grand Mufti. He's a cautionary tale.
He's a signal flare.

Speaker 1 He's a reminder that unchallenged evil does not disappear. It regenerates.

Speaker 1 And if we want true peace, lasting peace, then we have to first learn the truth and tell the truth, not the sanitized version of it, not the version that keeps activists comfortable, but

Speaker 1 the version that recognizes the path that we're walking on and where it leads if we don't change any course.

Speaker 1 That's why what Governor Abbott did yesterday is so important

Speaker 1 because the past is still speaking

Speaker 1 and the voice sounds hauntingly familiar.

Speaker 1 Now,

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Speaker 1 the Generation X is right now.

Speaker 1 Because Generation X,

Speaker 1 Generation Z,

Speaker 1 anti-Semitism is on the rise, but it is being sold as honest questioning. And honest questioning is really, really good.
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Speaker 1 So I've said this for a long time. Question everything.
Question with boldness, even the very

Speaker 1 existence of God.

Speaker 1 And And it's really important, but it's honest questioning, honest questioning, because asking honest questions is really, really healthy

Speaker 1 and always okay to do.

Speaker 1 If the truth is the actual motivation, the actual goal, then question all the time. But I don't think that's what's actually happening right now.

Speaker 1 Are people asking questions about what's going on with Israel, et cetera, et cetera, because they're truly curious?

Speaker 1 Or are they doing it because they heard, I don't know, Elon Omar talking about it while wagging a finger?

Speaker 1 Do they actually want an answer? Or do they just see something about it on TikTok and then they made up their mind? Are you actually searching for the truth?

Speaker 1 Because the truth doesn't usually come on TikTok.

Speaker 1 You have to work for the truth.

Speaker 1 If you want real answers, We need a much deeper conversation. And it can't be based on Hollywood storytelling.
That's the laziest, most dangerous way to understand the world and reality.

Speaker 1 So let me show you what I mean. Take a Marvel movie.
Good guy shows up. Yay! He's in a cape and he's a good guy.
The bad guy shows up. Ooh, hiss.

Speaker 1 The moral of the story is all wrapped up in two hours. Perfect, black and white.
It's simple. It's easy, right?

Speaker 1 But the problem is that... You know, this is the real problems in the world are not based on make-believe.
Storytelling.

Speaker 1 What you're seeing in the movies is not real, but it is effective. You see,

Speaker 1 this happens sadly on both sides of the aisle right now. It's actually how the left has packed their narratives ever since the 1960s.
They identify the good guys, the oppressed. Applause.

Speaker 1 And then they identify the bad guys, the oppressors. Boo, hiss.

Speaker 1 Who manifests these two movie characters? Good guys.

Speaker 1 The colonized. Yay, the bad guys.
Western colonizers. You boo hiss.

Speaker 1 And in a few, just a few words, in a few minutes,

Speaker 1 there is this very distinct reason why, again, after the 1960s, that Zionism suddenly became a left-wing

Speaker 1 synonym for imperialism and colonization. Suddenly, the Palestinian issue out of nowhere becomes an issue of colonization.

Speaker 1 But this isn't the 1960s anymore. There's a new generation of storytellers, and they are weaving their marvelous magic and plot lines everywhere.
Take AIPAC.

Speaker 1 You hear everywhere now, Rashida Tlaib to some random blue-haired college activist, they're pulling the strings. They should register under FARA.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, let's, but let's slow down here for a beat. Is this really the question that is in good faith? Is it an exploration for truth, or is it something else entirely? FARA.

Speaker 1 This is the Foreign Agents Registration Act, okay? And it applies if a U.S. person or a U.S.
organization acts at the direction or control of a foreign principal.

Speaker 1 Advocacy, domestically funded, independent, not enough. Funding, direction, control.
That is the test.

Speaker 1 Now, here's the major point in this discussion that is conveniently being left out of the movie script. APAC is not unique.
So if you have a problem with APAC, let's broaden this a bit.

Speaker 1 There are dozens of groups that operate exactly the same way. The Armenian National Committee of America, the Armenian Assembly of America, the Cuban-American National Foundation,

Speaker 1 the Polish-American Congress, the Irish-American organizations, the Turkish-American organizations. They all lobby Congress.

Speaker 1 They all advocate for policies that are favorable to another country and not necessarily favorable to us. And none of them register under FARA because they're independent domestic organizations.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So why is everybody just singling out AIPAC?

Speaker 1 Bias. I have no problem.
If you want to stop APAC from doing this, great. Well, let's stop all of them from doing this.

Speaker 1 It's like if you say the main cause of climate change, you hate oil and gas. And so you logically have issues with the auto industry.
So you then single out Toyota Corollas.

Speaker 1 That's the cause of everything. It's a Toyota Corolla, I'll tell you that.
Those dang Toyota Corollas, not only the sole purpose for climate change, but they also control the entire government.

Speaker 1 They rule Hollywood, the banks, and anything else you can blame on a family foredoor.

Speaker 1 The real question isn't Toyota. The real question isn't APAC.
The real conversation is FARA as a whole.

Speaker 1 If that's your issue, its scope, its enforcement, and the gray areas where foreign governments hire U.S. firms that do register.

Speaker 1 But blaming one organization, this is where it all falls apart. That's the laziest of the lazy ways to search for truth.
I mean, and it's honestly, it's Elon Omar stupid.

Speaker 1 So let's talk about U.S. aid to Israel.
I am hearing all over the place, why are we giving billions? Okay.

Speaker 1 Good question, honestly. Here's the reality.
Baseline aid, $3.3 billion a year in military assistance. Missile defense, another $500 million.
That's 16% of Israel's annual military budget.

Speaker 1 Big numbers. And let's discuss that.

Speaker 1 But part of the discussion has to be,

Speaker 1 is it strategic? Is it in any way in our national interest? Are we getting anything in return? And what does it look like from other nations?

Speaker 1 Are we giving the same kind of money or the same kind of aid anywhere else? And is that strategic? I mean,

Speaker 1 we have to broaden this. The problem is, is when you're just narrowing it down to one country, if you have this problem with one country,

Speaker 1 it's many countries

Speaker 1 that you actually have a problem with or the system here in America. That's what we should be talking about.

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Speaker 1 Hello, America. Rest of it's downhill from here.
I mean, I'm talking about the week, but I would include the show in that as well. It's Wednesday, so welcome to the Glen Beck program.

Speaker 1 We have an exclusive announcement from the governor of Texas. We just got word they're going to be making an announcement here in about a half hour.

Speaker 1 So we're going to have that for you in just a few minutes.

Speaker 1 As soon as it arrives, we'll have it for you.

Speaker 1 But it's in regard to what we're talking about

Speaker 1 here at this hour about

Speaker 1 the state of Texas finally getting serious about the Muslim Brotherhood and also

Speaker 1 care. And I wish all states would do this, but

Speaker 1 it's way past time that we got serious about these two organizations.

Speaker 4 Glenn, can I interrupt you for just one second? Sure. Because this is amazing.

Speaker 4 I was listening to what you were talking about with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and going into Nazi Germany, and I was just messing around with one of the things that we're developing

Speaker 1 for the torch.

Speaker 4 And I was plugging all this into Glenn AI, and it was amazing. You actually did a huge special on this several years ago where you went even further in depth on the Grand Mufti of Israel.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's insane.

Speaker 4 One of the things that stuck out to me was one of the big propaganda arms of Hitler and the Nazis was the Grand Mufti directed back towards the Middle Eastern world, putting all of this anti-Jew ideology over in there.

Speaker 1 And you know how he did it? If I remember right, he broadcast it from Berlin. Radio, radio.
Yes, radio.

Speaker 4 You actually had a picture of the radio tower it was ginormous and he was directing all of this it was the one of the main propaganda methods used and the grand movie of Jerusalem was the head of it what was the name of the special do you know uh of the

Speaker 4 of all of this stuff oh it was uh armies of Armageddon Carlton

Speaker 4 so good but I mean and you again doubled down even on on some of the details on this guess who was one of the main listeners of this propaganda as a young child?

Speaker 1 I don't remember.

Speaker 4 He would soon be crowned the Ayatollah.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 He was

Speaker 1 1979 in Iran.

Speaker 4 So he goes to Iran. Based off of all of this ideology, that ideology is still alive and going crazy in Iran.

Speaker 1 Right. That's what Iran is all about.
And the origins are from this grand movie of Jerusalem and a Nazi propaganda and Hitler. Crazy.
Just nuts. Crazy.

Speaker 1 Absolutely crazy how people don't understand how this has all come together. By the way, what he's talking about is we have George AI.
George is the librarian for our history library.

Speaker 1 Internally, we have Glenn AI, and eventually both of these will be available to everybody.

Speaker 1 First, it'll be to subscribers only just because we can only have a certain amount of people just because the compute power is so difficult and so expensive.

Speaker 1 But Glenn AI is monitoring everything that I say. It has my entire library, every book, every special, everything I've ever said, has the entire library

Speaker 1 of 30 years of broadcast and will bring up things. If I'm wrong, inconsistent, it will show up to Jason and say, actually, he said this five years ago.

Speaker 1 doesn't seem to match.

Speaker 1 Why did he change his mind or whatever?

Speaker 1 And it will bring up everything that we're talking so we can go more in depth. And on torch, there is going to be something at Glennbeck.com starting in January, the show behind the show.

Speaker 1 So there are going to be two shows running at the same time.

Speaker 1 And so when the network goes into commercial break, on the torch, it will go over to Glenn AI and Jason, who is going to be bringing further light and knowledge, if you will, to all of the things that we're talking about.

Speaker 1 And he'll give the historic context. He'll correct things.
And then if he has to correct them with me on air too on the regular show.

Speaker 1 But also we'll be doing, like, what would you be doing a special on today?

Speaker 1 We would have Glenn AI do a podcast today on what, based on today's show. Do you know?

Speaker 4 You could, yeah,

Speaker 4 you could do a quick little podcast that we can generate, eventually the audience could generate on their own, just based off of, let's say, what's going on in Texas right now with the designation of the Muslim Brotherhood and care.

Speaker 4 I've got warning lights on this tool right now that are just about to blow my computer up with all these different details about where the Grand Mufti went after he fled Germany afterwards, going to Egypt, meeting up with the Muslim Brotherhood and their creator, Hassan Albana.

Speaker 4 You've spoken about all of this.

Speaker 1 It's all right here. And Will, could you also do everything we've spoken about on what's happening in Texas to give you the understanding of why it's so important in Texas?

Speaker 4 You could put all of that together, blend it together.

Speaker 1 You could even create a chalkboard, which I have generating up right now, where you could put all of this stuff. It's insane.
It's really insane

Speaker 1 what our new AI system is going to be able to do. It'll be able to give you such a deeper understanding of everything.
And I've said this before, the torch is

Speaker 1 broadcast is broad. Okay, so we talk about a hundred different things and we make sure that we cover all the news that everybody wants to know.
That's broadcast. That's this radio broadcast.

Speaker 1 The torch will take everything that is narrow. You want to learn more about it and you'll eventually be able to ask it yourself.
Glenn mentioned this. I want to go really deep on that.

Speaker 1 I want to deep dive. I want to understand this.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that will be very narrow, but very, very deep. So if you really want to learn something, you know, we talk about the Constitution all the year, all day long, but have you ever read the Constitution?

Speaker 1 Have you ever taken a class on the Constitution? I haven't. I mean, I've read the Constitution, but I've never taken a class on it.

Speaker 1 Do you know what civics is? Do you know what that really means?

Speaker 1 What did the founders, the Federalist Papers,

Speaker 1 what's in the Federalist Papers? How does it apply today on certain things? You'll be able to take deep dives into all of these things. Anything on the radio show, you'll be able to take a deep dive.

Speaker 1 George Soros, is he connected to any of this stuff? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And based on the 30 years of broadcast and books and every speech I've ever given, everything else, all vetted and made sure that it's actually accurate, it's all now in GlenAI.

Speaker 1 So you'll be able to ask it,

Speaker 1 I need to understand this, and we'll produce it for you. And you'll be able to have access to all of those things.

Speaker 1 It's really a remarkable tool, unlike anything else. It's all proprietary technology, based on proprietary libraries.
It's not going out and searching, so it can't hallucinate.

Speaker 1 It has to memorize all of these things, and that's where hallucination becomes the problem.

Speaker 1 It memorizes everything that we've ever done, everything the founders did that we have put in. And these libraries will continue to grow day after day and get stronger and stronger and stronger.

Speaker 1 And you'll be able to use them as a teaching tool for you, your family, your kids, whomever.

Speaker 1 And you can create anything from,

Speaker 1 you know, things that you can read to podcasts that you want to listen to. We at first have to create them for you because of the compute.
But we ask you to tell us what is it you want to learn.

Speaker 1 What is it that you don't understand?

Speaker 1 What is it that you would like a deep dive on? Whether that is anything based on our history or anything based on the world today,

Speaker 1 please just write to us at Torch or theTorch at Glenbeck.com. Just send us an email.
Tell us what you want to learn.

Speaker 1 Tell us where you want want deep dives, what you think you really need to understand, what you want to teach your kids.

Speaker 1 If you want to teach it to your kids, tell us, I'd like a lesson plan on this for my kids.

Speaker 1 And we will create a lesson plan for your kids. You want your kids to understand the Bill of Rights? Tell us.

Speaker 1 You know, my kids are 8 to 14 years old, and I want a lesson plan that I can take and teach my kids. And we'll give you that lesson plan.

Speaker 1 And it'll give you all of the footnotes so you know exactly where these things are.

Speaker 1 And you'll be able to look for them.

Speaker 1 Tell us if you want it in their language or if you want it in your kids' language.

Speaker 1 You know, it's really hard to understand the founders sometimes, especially if you're younger.

Speaker 1 But we can translate that into your kids' language and then provide you all of the documentation that shows it in their language.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to show you in a couple of weeks. I did an interview with George Washington.
It's freaky. Absolutely free.
Have you seen it yet, Jason? Yeah, it's insane. It's freaky.

Speaker 1 And in it,

Speaker 1 I'm sitting across the table from him. Now, this is something that we are, it takes so much compute.

Speaker 1 It's just too expensive to create right now. We've created one

Speaker 1 just to show you what's coming.

Speaker 1 But I'm sitting across the table and I am talking to

Speaker 1 an AI George Washington. And he's dressed like today, but he looks like George Washington.
And he looks absolutely real.

Speaker 1 And I said to him, okay, so we fed in the problems of everything that's going on today.

Speaker 1 Tell me, where have we gone wrong? What are the things that we're missing? And where should we start to rebuild?

Speaker 1 And he starts in. And at first, he's just giving stuff, you know, in 1700s talk.
And I'm like, okay, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. To say, tell me this in today's language.

Speaker 1 And he actually argues with me for a second. He's like, I have 74 points all lined out in our Federalist papers and in many of our writings and the scriptures, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, yeah, right. Just tell it to me in today's language.
And he does. And it is so compelling.
So compelling. And it's all footnoted.

Speaker 1 So you could go back and look at it and read it and go, oh, that's what he was talking about. Here it is in their language back then.
It's this document. It's incredible.

Speaker 1 Nobody has ever done this before.

Speaker 1 I want to to tell you that what I'm explaining to you is not going to be able to be accessed fully when we launch in January.

Speaker 1 Some of this stuff we are going to have to create for you, just because we have to narrow it down on compute time.

Speaker 1 And you just tell us what is it you want to learn. We'll teach anything to you and your family.
Just tell us what you want to learn.

Speaker 1 And it's going to be a,

Speaker 1 you know, the 250th anniversary. We wanted to launch this for the 250th anniversary of the nation.

Speaker 1 And on my 49th year of broadcast,

Speaker 1 because my 50th is coming up in 2027, and we are going to change not only the way history is taught, but also the way broadcast is being done.

Speaker 1 This kind of broadcast and podcasting.

Speaker 1 We think that we have a code here that unlocks an entirely new world of

Speaker 1 understanding and education. So we'll ask you to join us at Torch.

Speaker 1 We'll do that in January. But if you want to find out more about it, just sign up from our daily email newsletter.

Speaker 1 You'll be the first to know about when you can sign up, when you can get involved in it. You can do it now at glenbeck.com, glennbeck.com.

Speaker 1 Do it now. Do we have the message from

Speaker 1 Abbott? Here is the statement from Governor Abbott, exclusive to our program. He'll be releasing this later this morning.

Speaker 1 It has come to my attention that certain entities in Texas, including in Collin and Dallas counties, may be masquerading as legal courts staffed with judges issuing orders that purportedly carry the authority to bind individuals to Islamic codes,

Speaker 1 thereby preempting state and federal laws. This is amazing.
Do you remember the story? Stu, do you remember when I did the interview? Do you remember this?

Speaker 1 In Irving, which is where he's talking about, in Irving, Texas, the town where our studios are in, I had two Imams and I interviewed them.

Speaker 1 And I knew Sharia was part of their plan, but they were never going to give it up. And I just did this really kind and gentle.
And when you just, when you're friendly, it's amazing how people talk.

Speaker 4 It was outside.

Speaker 1 It was outside. It was very pleasant.
And I'm like, so tell me about Sharia law.

Speaker 1 And one of them eventually says, you know, well, I mean, we all agree that, you know, if you if you break the law, you know, if you steal, your hand should be cut off. And I'm like, wow.

Speaker 1 And you saw the other imam, the older imam, get very uncomfortable. And he was like, well, I mean, you know.
But the other Imam was just speaking out Sharia courts. It's all coming.

Speaker 1 And it was pretty telling. Well, now it's here.

Speaker 1 So the governor goes on in this exclusive statement to the Glenbeck program. The U.S.

Speaker 1 Constitution's religious protections provide no authority for religious courts to skirt state and federal laws simply by donning robes and pronouncing positions inconsistent with Western civilization.

Speaker 1 I urge you, therefore, to investigate efforts by entities purporting to illegally enforce Sharia law in Texas.

Speaker 1 Legal disputes in Texas must be decided based on American law, rooted in the fundamental principles of American due process, not according to Sharia law dispensed in modern-day star chambers.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 So this is going to require cooperation between DPS and the Office of the Attorney General. The letter is going to be sent out later.

Speaker 1 today, but this is an exclusive report from the governor, and I applaud Governor Abbott for actually doing this. Now let's see if we have teeth in this and they actually follow up.

Speaker 1 So this is not just an election stunt, but this is actually

Speaker 1 a dictate and where our government in Texas is going. And I urge other states to do exactly the same.
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Speaker 1 In one of the

Speaker 1 One of the best examples of a tweet not aging well,

Speaker 1 it has to be from Olivia Newsy, who is,

Speaker 1 she is

Speaker 2 a reporter

Speaker 1 who has been, well, sleeping around with several politicians that she's been covering. And

Speaker 1 in 2015, she wrote a tweet that says, why does Hollywood think female reporters sleep with their sources? Why can't they get women journalists right? Well,

Speaker 1 I mean, it looked like they kind of did get women journalists right. We'll get into this story here in just a second because it's just,

Speaker 1 it's just

Speaker 1 so hilarious how self-absorbed and unaware they are of their own situations. They're just so incredibly insipid.
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Speaker 1 Glenn,

Speaker 3 the saga of Olivia Nootsi.

Speaker 3 This is

Speaker 3 a great story, a fun story, and a story that I swear to you has a point.

Speaker 3 It's important to understand that at the beginning because you might think this is just salacious nonsense and you're just, you know, dancing on the tragedies of.

Speaker 1 I think we covered this yesterday. I think we covered this yesterday.
There's enough going on in the world that is just,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 it'll curdle milk.

Speaker 1 You read a story and you're like, oh, and you'll watch the milk in your coffee just curdle all of a sudden because you're just saying, I think the world is coming to an end.

Speaker 1 And it curdles and you got lumps in your coffee. This is, I think there's time once in a while just for just

Speaker 1 fun,

Speaker 1 satisfying stories. And this one is that.

Speaker 3 Yes. And I will begin the story at the very, very start, Glenn.
And I will start it with a question for you.

Speaker 3 And this is a question that I think sets the scene for the entire journey we're about to go on.

Speaker 1 Olivia Knutson, journalist.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 3 Let's do it. She starts her career, very first job.

Speaker 3 She volunteers as an intern

Speaker 1 for what campaign

Speaker 3 volunteers as an intern

Speaker 1 for what campaign.

Speaker 1 It just has to be Bill Clinton.

Speaker 3 That's a

Speaker 3 good guess.

Speaker 1 However, timing wiener.

Speaker 1 It's got to be him. Anthony Wiener.

Speaker 3 Anthony Wiener is the answer.

Speaker 1 She

Speaker 1 volunteers for the failed mayoral campaign of Anthony Wiener.

Speaker 3 So this is how this

Speaker 1 starts. So she starts covering Wiener.

Speaker 3 Yes, she starts covering Wiener's, and the whole story is her doing more of that. We'll get into that as we go.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 3 she starts with the wiener campaign, and this is a disaster. It's

Speaker 3 kind of a legendary catastrophe. They have a documentary going on.
We talked about that at the time.

Speaker 3 Totally, the whole thing flames apart.

Speaker 1 By the way, I'm just sitting here thinking, I don't think I was technically wrong when I said it was a Clinton campaign.

Speaker 3 Because remember, that's true.

Speaker 1 Hillary Clinton is all over the wiener.

Speaker 3 Please don't say it like that. But yes,

Speaker 1 that is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because if I say it like that, it leads you to believe, and that is absolutely not true. I don't think she's ever been all over the world.
I just don't.

Speaker 3 I think, yes, because if you remember, Uma Abedeen at this time is married to Anthony Wiener.

Speaker 1 Can you use air quotes? She's air quoting all over the place.

Speaker 3 On her wonderful path to Marias Soros. She's at that time married to Wiener, and she's helping out Hillary Clinton as her like, you know, top dog main assistant.
Okay, so that's all going.

Speaker 3 That's the first thing.

Speaker 3 It's got almost nothing to do with the assories.

Speaker 1 Did you use air quotes for assistant there as well? I did not. I did not.
All right, go ahead.

Speaker 3 So how does Olivia Nootzi get into our lives? She goes, she goes from the Wiener campaign and leaves and writes basically

Speaker 3 a tell-all

Speaker 3 You know, scandal log of what was going on during the Wiener campaign. Basically, this thing was a catastrophe.

Speaker 3 She tells the inside story and releases it to the Daily News, who prints this column from, at this point, a 20-year-old aspiring journalist.

Speaker 3 And, you know, she's pretty, she's glamorous, she's, you know, kind of like the New York, you know, elite journalist that you'd exactly picture in this situation.

Speaker 3 So she gets this and turns that one column into

Speaker 3 a job while she's still in college. She's at Fordham.
She's still at college. She turns that one column.
Fordham. Fordham, of course.

Speaker 3 I thought you'd like that detail.

Speaker 1 For multiple reasons. My daughter went to Fordham.

Speaker 1 They actually had the balls to, they held rallies against me on the Fordham campus.

Speaker 1 And then they had the balls to come and ask my wife and I to come in to meet with a dean because they wanted to know if we would help them build a library.

Speaker 1 There were words that started

Speaker 1 with F that were not fruit. Now,

Speaker 1 as we left that meeting, was it Fordham?

Speaker 3 That was the F word Fordham.

Speaker 1 You, Fordham? No. No.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Fordham you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the university. That's what I mean.
Fordham University. Fordham you.

Speaker 1 Anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 3 Okay, so she gets hired from that one column as one of the main

Speaker 3 presidential campaign correspondents for The Daily Beast, which tells you yet again something about the standards at The Daily Beast when it comes to journalism, which are

Speaker 3 exactly zero. They have higher standards at Fordham.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 1 those are pretty low. Those are low.

Speaker 3 She's going to cover the Chris Christie campaign, the Rand Paul campaign, and some of the early bubbling beginnings of the Donald Trump campaign. This is back in 2014, 15 and there.

Speaker 3 She, in 2015, as you note, as she's in this job, she does do that tweet about House of Cards and how women should not, or Hollywood should not misportray the journalists that are females because they're always saying that they sleep with their sources, and that's a terrible thing for her that to do.

Speaker 3 So they point that out, which is an amazing thing for multiple reasons, Glenn, because, well, I'll get into that here in a second.

Speaker 3 So she does that. She then gets named by Politico one of the 16 breakout media stars of the presidential election.
This is November 2016.

Speaker 3 She then, in February 2017, parlays that into a job as the Washington correspondent of New York Magazine. She's 24 years old.
24 years old. Washington correspondent at New York Magazine.

Speaker 3 You say, wow, that's a prestigious position. Who held it before her? No one.

Speaker 1 they literally create this job for her uh which is incredible i guess she's 24 years old it's not probably the only position created for her that

Speaker 3 she may have several that she's documented in a in a in a book or two that we could go over later um okay so

Speaker 1 and you wonder and this is a time to pause jesus would not be doing this segment i just want to let you know right here and now that's true it's true yeah all right. So,

Speaker 3 so you think about what a meteoric rise this is. I mean, this is Glenn, you know, this.
This is not how media operates. You don't do what she's done here.
This is

Speaker 3 like incredible. It's like she, you know, someone who never played basketball before and is in the NBA three years later.
Like, it's like legitimately an incredible rise.

Speaker 3 You wonder how that rise occurred. Those questions may be answered later on.

Speaker 1 Stop using the word rise. You're making me uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 2018, she's included in the Forbes 30 Under 30 list, which is a very prestigious list.

Speaker 3 In October 2018, as a member of working for New York Magazine, she's invited for an exclusive interview. In the Oval Office to interview Donald Trump.
Again, she's 25 at this point. Very prestigious.

Speaker 3 She's awarded a NEXT award by the American Society of Magazine Editors. She gets a documentary on MSNBC.
She portrays herself on the Showtime show Billions

Speaker 3 in 2022.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 Like, again,

Speaker 3 this is someone who's a massive celebrity in that world. You might not know her name, but she is a massive celebrity.

Speaker 3 She,

Speaker 3 you know, worked, gets a six-part interview series for Bloomberg. And then she does a profile of RFK Jr., the candidate who you may remember running for president as a Democrat.
Okay.

Speaker 3 I can't remember if the profile happened when he was running as a Democrat or he had kind of flipped to an independent, but it's before he is endorsing Trump or there's Maha or any of that stuff, right?

Speaker 1 Like in that period.

Speaker 3 And she does this profile of him that I guess goes pretty well.

Speaker 3 And it comes out much more favorable, I would say, than many of the other previews,

Speaker 3 profiles of RFK Jr. in this period.

Speaker 3 But again, it has some criticism and some quirkiness in it. And her style of writing has all sorts of weird details.
And, you know, sometimes it's kind of, I think it's actually pretty good.

Speaker 3 Like, I think some of her reporting was pretty good. She, she did have some really fascinating stories that she wrote over this period.

Speaker 3 But, like, the celebrities seem to overextend past maybe what she had achieved in her career so far. So, she writes this profile of RFK Jr., and then

Speaker 3 it is the news breaks that RFK Jr. and

Speaker 3 Olivia Newtsi are having what they call an emotional affair, which seems to be lots of very

Speaker 3 detailed, loving

Speaker 3 text messages back and forth, promises about the same thing.

Speaker 1 When you say loving, is it like, you know,

Speaker 1 you are a child of God and I just love you and want to help you anyway? Is that what you mean by loving? Or do you mean like

Speaker 1 Barry White loving? Well,

Speaker 3 to put it another way, we're talking about a Kennedy, so I'm talking about Kennedy-style loving,

Speaker 1 which is

Speaker 1 again ding-dong pizza delivery.

Speaker 3 It's important to note that Olivia Nutsi is engaged to another journalist, Ryan Lizza, at this time. And so she's engaged to somebody.

Speaker 3 RFK Jr., not that this makes seemingly any difference to him whatsoever, is married at the time and is still currently married to an actress in Hollywood.

Speaker 3 So he's doing this, she's doing this. this, this is suboptimal, not only for a marriage, but also a presidential campaign.
And this goes on. The news finally breaks that this has happened.

Speaker 3 Now, this is a problem for a bunch of reasons. Number one,

Speaker 3 you have a fiancé. Number two, the person you're texting with is married.
Number three, though, a really serious journalist problem, right?

Speaker 3 Like you're profiling someone and having an affair with them at the same time. That is frowned upon, at least in theory, in the world of journalism.

Speaker 3 Now, in practice, God only knows, but in theory, you're not supposed to do that, Glenn. This is something they tell you relatively early on at journalism school, I assume.

Speaker 3 And so

Speaker 1 I got to apologize to all those people I've been sleeping with that come on the show. Is that

Speaker 3 how many people have you profiled, Glenn?

Speaker 3 You just profiled the great Mooftie. Have you ever had any relations with

Speaker 1 have you ever had the relations with the Mooftie? I got to tell you the truth, Stu. Yep.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Back in 1942.

Speaker 3 So all of this comes out

Speaker 3 in the media, and

Speaker 3 she sort of goes, she gets fired from the New York magazine because of this journalistic lapse. And she sort of goes into hiding.

Speaker 3 She goes into hiding. She moves.
She is not saying word one about this.

Speaker 3 And she, you know, she talks a lot. So that's notable.

Speaker 3 In this period, Ryan Ryan Lizza, her ex-fiancé now, they broke up, ex-fiancé,

Speaker 3 and her are negotiating, according to him, a

Speaker 3 do not, what is it,

Speaker 3 non-disclosure.

Speaker 1 Don't talk about this.

Speaker 3 Don't talk about this. Don't disparage.
No,

Speaker 3 let's just let this be over. He also gets a message, according to him, from an intermediate friend that says, hey, she never wants to talk about this again.

Speaker 3 She hopes you'll never talk about this again. Can we just move past this? And he, according to him, says, you know what, I'm on board with that.
Let's just never let this go.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 a little bit of time goes on, and what we learn is her time in exile has actually been spent writing a book, which is called American Kanto.

Speaker 3 It is coming out in a couple of weeks from today,

Speaker 3 or from yesterday, two weeks from yesterday.

Speaker 1 And it's a book that's... Does this one...

Speaker 1 Does the book include her time with Governor Mark Sanford?

Speaker 1 Well, we're getting to that. 2019, 2020.
I mean, she was sleeping with him too before the JFK thing?

Speaker 3 That's a big part of the story that we're getting to here because she,

Speaker 3 at this point, we don't even know. At this point in the story, we have no idea about that.
We only know about the RFK Jr. thing.

Speaker 3 So she releases this book, and in it is all these details about the RFK Jr. thing.

Speaker 3 Now, you'd think the way the media would handle this woman, who they've just ejected from their society for massive journalistic and moral lapses, would be hammering her over her activity here.

Speaker 3 Instead, she gets a glowing profile in the New York Times with like her, with the incredible foot. You got to see the footage, Glenn.
You'd love it. It's her.

Speaker 3 She's driving in a convertible, hair in the wind, like Chanel glasses. She looks spectacular as she's going down.
This is how the New York Times rolls this out for her. And she

Speaker 1 talks about her RFK Jr.'s affair. Okay, Kay.
Can you stop using a few terms you just used with the going down? Let's stop using that as well.

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Speaker 3 Okay, Glenn, so Ryan Lizza, the fiancé, writes this piece that you noted, outlines a relationship that

Speaker 3 he catches her in the middle of an affair. They've had sex, all of this other thing, all these other things, gives all the details.
Turns out, the whole time you believe it's RFK Jr.,

Speaker 3 but at the end, it is revealed it is not RFK Jr. He's actually talking about a previous affair

Speaker 3 with Mark Sanford, the former governor of South Carolina. Now, what's fascinating about this.

Speaker 1 He's raised in a sexual

Speaker 3 sexual thing. You remember you went on the Appalachian Trail famously.
He was not on the Appalachian Trail. He was having an affair.
So that got happened. He broke up with that woman.

Speaker 3 He's back now running at this point, by the way, as an anti-Trump,

Speaker 3 I'm like the guy you should trust candidate in 2019

Speaker 3 at that point, which is a fascinating development, honestly. But at this point, he gets profiled again by Olivia Nunsi.
This is how they led into this.

Speaker 3 At some point, there's these pictures of him looking very happy, and someone comments under her story, hey, he looks happy. And she says, I tend to have that effect on people.

Speaker 1 I tend to have that effect.

Speaker 3 Well, I guess, you know, I bet you do, Olivia.

Speaker 1 I bet you do.

Speaker 3 I bet you make seemingly own white men very happy in many ways. So

Speaker 3 that all happens. Also in this story are details that were not before known about her previous relationship with Keith Olberman.

Speaker 3 Now, what's fascinating about this one, I want to timeline this one for you, Glenn. She's currently 32 years old.
Okay.

Speaker 3 32 years old. He's got to be 65.

Speaker 3 Well, what we know at one point when they were together. Yeah, he's about 65.
When they were together at one point,

Speaker 3 she was 21 and he was 55. So we know that.
We know there's a 34-year difference between them. There's a 32-year difference, I believe, between Sanford and her.
So she has a type.

Speaker 3 So she,

Speaker 3 but the timeline of that, she's 32 now. In the piece, Liza says,

Speaker 3 he refers to the relationship as a lost decade, which would bring it back to 22.

Speaker 3 He also says before that, he helped her get out of the Oberman relationship, which moves it to 21 at least.

Speaker 3 Are we talking 17? And Olbermann says they were together for four years. So, are we talking 17 to 21?

Speaker 3 What four years are we talking?

Speaker 3 There's something weird there that Olbermann needs to address.

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Speaker 1 So Stu has been telling us here for the last half hour, kind of a continuation of where we were yesterday,

Speaker 1 because the story is just so salacious and so ridiculous and

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 just self-unaware of the media.

Speaker 1 A young 20-something media icon in New York,

Speaker 1 she tweets out, you know, why does the media always say that we're, you know, our young reporters are always sleeping with our subjects? Well, because you are.

Speaker 1 And we didn't know it at the time, but she was, she's been sleeping with many of the people that she's reporting on.

Speaker 1 And now, Stu is just telling us after all of this stuff comes out, it's a big scandal in like, you know, her fiancé's life. Doesn't seem to be a big scandal on the left in the reporting

Speaker 1 circles. They don't seem to care at all.

Speaker 1 And you were talking about how she just got this profile done of her where where she's, you know, driving in this convertible top-down looking great, blah, blah, blah. And it's a fluff piece.

Speaker 1 What

Speaker 1 are the, was this to like build her image into something

Speaker 1 the media just doesn't just wants to make sure that she's still in the group for some reason?

Speaker 3 I mean, it's to promote her book, I would say, largely. I mean, and it has some criticism.

Speaker 3 It goes through some of her scandals, but it is a, you know, it's a, it's a piece that you'd hope for, certainly as you're releasing a new book.

Speaker 3 And at at one point, she's talking about how she would cover the mayoral campaign

Speaker 3 that just happened in New York.

Speaker 1 Does it start with her sleeping with Bomb Guy?

Speaker 3 I don't know, but I think Eric Adams would like it because she said someone should be with Eric Adams. And he's like, yeah, you!

Speaker 1 Go here.

Speaker 1 Cover me, baby. Cover me.

Speaker 3 At one point, the New York Times journalist says, Can you believe Eric Adams threw his entire career and life away over business, you know, business class travel, which was sort of the allegation when he was going through the scandal.

Speaker 3 And she replies, well, I threw mine away for much less, which isn't exactly complimentary to RFK Jr., I suppose, but is I think she's relatively self-aware, at least in some of the stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pretty brilliant of her, though. It's a great idea.

Speaker 1 Tonight, we'll get back to this in a second, but tonight, the Cracker Barrel, there's two parts of Cracker Barrel. I'll get into this in a second, but I was talking to the CEO, and I said,

Speaker 1 who put the meme out with the White House with a Cracker Barrel edition where the new ballroom is going to be? Did you see that tweet? And somebody had made that meme.

Speaker 1 And Cracker Barrel put out, I don't think you want us anywhere near any remodeling.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Grayline. And I said to them, I said, whoever did that should get a raise.
Not taking yourself so seriously was the best move you guys made after this debacle. She's doing the same thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess I threw my life away for even less than that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a smart way to handle it for sure.

Speaker 1 It's a smart way to handle it.

Speaker 3 And, you know, she's very media savvy, to say the very least. So we left off with the story we've left with some of the best.
That's true. She's learned from the best.

Speaker 3 So we left off with Keith Olbermann. Olberman,

Speaker 3 you know, dated her before all of this happened. And there's some details in the write-up from her ex-fiancé that talks about this.

Speaker 1 Can you just stop?

Speaker 1 Let the vomiting stop before you go on. After you said dating Keith Oberman, let everybody get the vomiting done.
There's more vomiting to come on that particular one. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 I can't help you on that one.

Speaker 3 So he paid for her to attend college. Keith Oberman paid for Nozi to attend college, gave her all these fancy dresses, $15,000 worth of Cartier jewelry.

Speaker 3 He covered her rent. He furnished her apartment in a doorman building in the West Village.

Speaker 3 Now, he has a defense to all of this, which is interesting because I think in this case, the defense is worse than the crime.

Speaker 1 Because he says,

Speaker 1 leave it to Olbermann.

Speaker 3 Oberman, of course. He says, by the way, about this, all the money that was spent, Olivia and I lived together for four years.

Speaker 3 That's his description of the event. Four plus years is how he says it.
Four birthdays, four Christmases, four anniversaries. That's like $1,250 of jewelry per celebration.

Speaker 3 And her apartment was a writing studio. And I made an F ton then, meaning he made a lot of money.

Speaker 3 What was I supposed to do? Get her a lot of gift certificates from Kmart. So that's his defense.
He's like, oh, gosh,

Speaker 3 I wasn't showering her with gifts. I wasn't a sugar daddy.
That's kind of

Speaker 3 the allegation that's been put up against him. He's like, instead, I was just living with her and giving her, you know, nice presents for all of the birthdays.

Speaker 3 But again, this brings the timeline very much into question here.

Speaker 3 We know that they were together at 21 years old.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 We know that they now lived together for four plus years by Keith's own admission.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 And we would assume they at least went on one date before they moved into it with each other.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 3 I so what's the I mean, just kind of throwing numbers out there, is it four and a half years they were dating, let's just say, four and a half years, you know, they they moved in pretty quickly together that puts the beginning of their relationship to predate her internship with the wiener campaign now i don't maybe that's not right you know it is a little confusing there's some overlapping timelines here but let's put it so she started with she started with the one wiener at

Speaker 3 18 20 that was i think it was 20 at 20.

Speaker 1 she's 20 years old then why do you say that it would predate because do we know that the end of that relationship was 2021?

Speaker 3 I don't know the exact end of the relationship, but we do know that her fiancé said it was a lost decade of a relationship that ended in 2024.

Speaker 3 So that would put her back at about 21 years old if you take that term literally. Now, maybe it was only seven years and it was really 20 to 24 years old they were living together.
It's possible.

Speaker 3 We don't know exactly, but I think clarification is necessary because the best case scenario here is Keith is looking for barely legal girls. That's the best case scenario.

Speaker 3 The best reading on this is this multi-millionaire 55-year-old trolling for interns,

Speaker 3 you know, that were 18, 19, 20, 17, something like that. So that's where we are in the Keith Overman situation.
Now, what's fascinating about all of this, and

Speaker 3 there is a point to all of this, which is

Speaker 3 when you see someone in the media,

Speaker 3 say you're a racist,

Speaker 3 say you're a transphobe, say that you're killing grandma because you won't wear a mask outdoors, telling you that when you go to your kids' PTA or the

Speaker 3 school board meeting and are upset that they're teaching teaching sex to them at 12 years old.

Speaker 3 When those people tell you that you're the bad ones, remember that they are all the worst people society has ever produced.

Speaker 3 They are all

Speaker 1 doing

Speaker 1 well, there's a few others. I think Mangala was much worse, obviously.

Speaker 1 There is a level above. But in polite society, there are some of the worst morally, they're some of the most reprehensible people around.

Speaker 3 They are doing incredible, incredible things that you don't know about. And their judgment should mean nothing to you.

Speaker 1 Nothing. Nothing to you.

Speaker 3 Going to that, you know, that whole tweet you put out, which is a fascinating, you know,

Speaker 3 button on the end of this story where she writes a story. I remember reading it in 2015.

Speaker 3 Hey, like, why are, you know, you're portraying these women, these young female reporters, as just sleeping their way to the top.

Speaker 1 That's awful. As sluts?

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's, that was actually a word she was called, by the way. That exact word she was called after the Anthony Weiner issue.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 How appropriate is that? Yeah. By someone.

Speaker 1 How appropriate is that?

Speaker 3 Yes. So, so interesting.
But like, what's fascinating about that is

Speaker 3 I saw that screenshot, which is of Zoe Barnes, the journalist in that series, House of Cards. And she was, you know, sleeping around.
And

Speaker 3 as I saw it, I was like, God, I love that series. So I went back and watched the first episode of the show just because I was like, I got to watch that again.

Speaker 3 It was really good, at least the first couple of seasons of it.

Speaker 1 And in that season, she was the one that was pushed into the front of the train, right?

Speaker 3 Yes. I mean, that's the biggest spoiler alert of all time.
But yes, it's 10 years old. It's fine.
But what I'm saying is, like, it's just, it's one of the greatest moments in television.

Speaker 3 I mean, I remember watching, watching it and then re-watching it like five times. I was so shocked by that moment.
Yeah. And so

Speaker 3 I want to go back through it.

Speaker 3 But in that,

Speaker 3 the young female journalist is portrayed at one point of sleeping around a little bit.

Speaker 3 She is also portrayed as a woman who goes to Frank Underwood, the powerful congressman, and tells him that she will print anything he says and never ask a question about it.

Speaker 3 And that was never controversial. There was no pushback against that portrayal of journalism.
That portrayal of journalism was just like left out there. Like, that happens all the time.

Speaker 3 The sleeping around was the only thing that there was pushback on. I found that to be pretty rigidly fascinating.

Speaker 1 That family happens all the time. All the time.
I think that happens all the time. These guys, I mean, look, this...

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell a Woodrow Wilson story.

Speaker 1 This is what that was all about. Bring the press in and wine and dine them and make them part of the family.

Speaker 1 Don't allow them to look at our relationship as adversarial. Bring them in, you know, flatter them, show them that we trust you because you can talk to the American people.

Speaker 1 And you know, where that that's how that all got mixed up. That's how that all got mixed up.

Speaker 3 Now, let me ask you this, Glenn.

Speaker 3 Is this what Cracker Barrel was attempting with you?

Speaker 3 With me, is that what they were trying to do? They're trying to bring you in to get like a good PR spit out of this?

Speaker 3 Was that their attempt?

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Speaker 1 Yes, yes, they do. Yes, they do.
By the way, tonight,

Speaker 1 there's a two-part special. Tonight, I am taking you to this big, huge warehouse that Cracker Barrel has.

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And he took me around in this enormous warehouse of

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Speaker 1 And he looks for the real thing, all the

Speaker 1 all of the things you remember from childhood, from games to signs to, you know, fruit can labels, all of this stuff.

Speaker 1 We walk in and he shows me, we're in the front room and he's like, I want you to look up there. He said, notice that Coca-Cola sign up there.
And it was a paper sign, huge paper sign. And I said,

Speaker 1 Yes. And he said, what sticks out? And I said, well, first of all, it says refreshing and healthful.

Speaker 1 so that tells me it's very old and i said just looking at the logo i imagine late 1800s first five years of the 20th century and he said exactly right after the turn of the century he said it's the only one

Speaker 1 um in existence and healthful is the key to that sign

Speaker 1 and he's talking to me and i'm looking at it and i'm like I said, how much is that worth, do you think? And he said, well, it's only worth what somebody will pay for it.

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Speaker 1 he said, they offered half a million dollars for it. This is years ago, half a million dollars for it.
And as he said that, I noticed that there were two sprinkler heads right in front of the sign.

Speaker 1 And he kept talking. And I finally, I mean, I was like,

Speaker 1 Joe, stop. Please.

Speaker 1 Please take that down right now. I cannot even concentrate with a 500,000 one-of-a-kind piece of American history with two sprinkler heads right in front of it.
But I take you through their,

Speaker 1 it's not a museum, it's just this collection of American stuff that is just so cool. Then tomorrow, I sit down with the CEO of Cracker Barrel.
Can we play this quickly?

Speaker 1 Sarah, here's a tease from for tomorrow's podcast. You'll see it on Blaze TV and then Saturday, wherever you get your podcast.
Listen:

Speaker 5 The Cracker Barrel needs to feel like the Cracker Barrel for today and for tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Cracker Barrel Rebrand Tank Stock.

Speaker 6 The changes are not being received very well on social media at all.

Speaker 5 What sounds good? Are you an egg guy?

Speaker 1 Are you a pancake guy? Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't care how you vote. I don't care.

Speaker 3 Don't slap me across the face.

Speaker 1 You as individuals can make whatever choice you want, but don't preach to me. Had the company embraced DEI.
I don't need that from my brand.

Speaker 7 Were you surprised you weren't fired?

Speaker 7 Um.

Speaker 5 And we are

Speaker 5 so sorry for the misunderstanding. I regret it.
I don't want people to be mad at us. My job is to make people love Crackle Barrel.
Not be mad at Crackle Barrel.

Speaker 1 When you hear her answer to,

Speaker 1 are you surprised you haven't been fired? When you hear her answer, that tells you everything you need to know about this scandal. It is an amazing interview.

Speaker 1 She was not comfortable at any point during the interview, and I don't like conflict, but I wanted to make sure I... I asked her the honest question so I knew,

Speaker 1 is this somebody

Speaker 1 from San Francisco? No, she's from Cincinnati. It's just somebody from San Francisco that came in with an agenda.
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