Best of the Program | 11/19/25

Speaker 1 On today's podcast, this is one that's a lot of fun you don't want to miss. The Democrats have sent a vague message to the military and to the CIA about disobeying orders.

Speaker 1 What exactly is behind this message? We talk about that, go in depth on it. Also, a reminder of

Speaker 1 what's really going on

Speaker 1 with anti-Semitism. What's anti-Semitism? Where does it start?

Speaker 1 How is this rearing its ugly head? Well, we can tell you. It starts with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
This story is fascinating because it takes you all the way from

Speaker 1 Jerusalem to Berlin with Hitler, all the way to towns in Texas today.

Speaker 1 And the Olivia Nozzie scandal. We continue this from yesterday.
It's Stu's latest obsession.

Speaker 1 It's a scandal involving a young reporter and all of the politicians she slept with. You are going to love this story all on today's podcast.
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Speaker 2 The Best of the Blanbeck Program. You know, there are

Speaker 1 chapters in American history and world history that are too implite to revisit, as if silence can, you know, stand down the jagged edges of truth. But it's not.

Speaker 1 Those forgotten chapters will eventually roar back and remind us that the past is not a museum. It is a map.

Speaker 1 So while we're looking at Texas saying Muslim Brotherhood and CARE,

Speaker 1 are terrorist organizations.

Speaker 1 Let's look at where they came from.

Speaker 1 I want to tell you about a man whose fingerprints run through some of the darkest moments of the last century and whose ideological children still walk the earth and are a cause of many of the problems that we have.

Speaker 1 His name is Haj Amin al-Husani. He is the grand or was the grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

Speaker 1 The West, they don't even know who he is. They treat him as a footnote.
He's not.

Speaker 1 Because the Grand Mufti was not just a regional religious leader. He became one of the most influential collaborators with Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 1 And he built a bridge between European fascism and Middle Eastern extremism and an architect. He was an architect of a worldview that continues to claim lives all across the globe.

Speaker 1 What you see happening with the Muslim Brotherhood, what you see happening in Europe, what you see happening here in the United States.

Speaker 1 He was the architect of all of this.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 let me take you through

Speaker 1 some of this here, walk you through the story that history has tried to bury.

Speaker 1 In 1941, El Husani sat face to face with Adolf Hitler in Berlin. He didn't come seeking peace.
He didn't come pleading for the protection of his people. He came to offer help.

Speaker 1 He pledged support for the Nazi cause in exchange for a promise that the Third Reich would extend its final solution to the Jews living in the Middle East. Now, this is not speculation.

Speaker 1 This isn't rumor. This is recorded, documented, corroborated history.

Speaker 1 If you want to understand where all of this hatred is coming from, you want to understand what's coming next, another Holocaust,

Speaker 1 you have to see where this poison jumped when it jumped from Germany at the very end. It jumped to the Middle East.
Now,

Speaker 1 this is a guy who urged Hitler and later Himmler to export the Holocaust to Jerusalem, Cairo, Baghdad, and beyond.

Speaker 1 He broadcasts speeches on Nazi radio, and he told the Arab listeners, kill the Jews wherever you find them. And he wasn't just talking.

Speaker 1 He helped recruit tens of thousands of Muslims into Nazi SS divisions, including the 13th Waffen Mountain Division.

Speaker 1 These are the units that carried out massacres all across the Balkans.

Speaker 1 We have this history documented at our museum. Soon, next year, you'll be able to see the uniforms and all of the documents that we have in our museum.
You'll be able to see it with George A.I.

Speaker 1 sometime next year when we start making all of the artifacts available online. But

Speaker 1 this was

Speaker 1 not a man misled by politics. This was a man intoxicated by a genocidal dream.
When the Nazi war machine fell, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem did not retreat into exile.

Speaker 1 He redirected his energies. He became a driving force behind the Arab Higher Committee, which rejected, see if this sounds familiar, every peaceful compromise proposed for the region.

Speaker 1 He used Nazi frameworks, propaganda, racial conspiracy,

Speaker 1 all kinds of really sick ideology and injected them into the bloodstream of a fractured Middle East. And then came his most lasting legacy.
He mentored a young relative.

Speaker 1 And this young relative,

Speaker 1 his name was Yasser Arafat.

Speaker 1 Arafat would go on to lead the PLO.

Speaker 1 Now, this was an organization whose chapter or charter was in 1964 was really explicit. The destruction of Israel, no two-state solution, no coexistence, elimination.

Speaker 1 This is the Mufti's ideology, and it flowed directly into creation of groups that made terror a political tool long before it became a global epidemic. And from that poisoned well sprang Fatah,

Speaker 1 Black September, the PLO,

Speaker 1 Islamic Jihad.

Speaker 1 Hamas,

Speaker 1 Muslim Brotherhood, all different names, same infection.

Speaker 1 If you look at Hamas, their founding charter reads like a grotesque remix of the Mufti's 1930s and 1940s propaganda, complete with conspiracy theories lifted directly from the Nazi tracks, including the protocols of the elders of Zion.

Speaker 1 This is a document that he spread everywhere through the Middle East. This is the ideological genealogy that you'll never hear explained in polite conversation.

Speaker 1 Everybody thinks that they're just so bright and so brilliant. Yeah, you know what who's controlling everything? The Jews.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 the Jews are really the ones who are really the Nazis. And it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 Because they're under the stupid belief that Nazism died in a bunker. It didn't.

Speaker 1 Some of it fled to Cairo and to Damascus and back to Jerusalem, and then it metastasized and today the echo still shakes the walls when you hear the terrorists chanting about the annihilation of Israel when you see school textbooks teaching children that Jews are descendant from apes and pigs when you watch mobs in European cities chanting gas the Jews you are looking at the shadow of the grand mufti of Jerusalem And not because he created hatred.

Speaker 1 Hatred's ancient. He systematized it.
He modernized it. He married it to the 20th century totalitarianism.
He took old prejudices and gave them the machinery of modern propaganda.

Speaker 1 And he forged his links between fascism and Islamism

Speaker 1 that still animate the organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Speaker 1 Groups whose goals are are not political compromise, but eradication, purification, and the crushing of the Western ideals.

Speaker 1 it's so frustrating to know history and then to hear people

Speaker 1 especially the youth just spout stuff off they have no idea how much they're being used

Speaker 1 and we have to invite them to because they don't they don't know they just don't know nobody's teaching this stuff

Speaker 1 and this is not about smearing millions of peaceful Muslims It's just about identifying the ideological architecture behind the most toxic, violent, and expansionist movements on earth.

Speaker 1 And at the center of that architecture stands the grand Mufti of Jerusalem. And if we ignore this, we ignore it at our own peril.

Speaker 1 If you understand the Mufti's role, the present suddenly becomes very, very clear. Why anti-Semitism exploding globally? How is this happening? Why radical organizations can't accept any compromise?

Speaker 1 Why from the river to the sea isn't a chant, it's a promise of destruction. Why every ceasefire becomes a pause, never peace.
Why every concession is interpreted not as goodwill, but as weakness.

Speaker 1 This stuff didn't start last week. It didn't start on October 7th.
It didn't start with the creation of Israel.

Speaker 1 The roots run back over a century ago to a man who believed the genocide of Europe should be replicated in the Middle East. And today, his

Speaker 1 ideological heirs wear masks, they hold rifles, they teach children to hate before they can read.

Speaker 1 And it's all from this guy who's not just a historic figure, the Grand Mufti. He's a cautionary tale.
He's a signal flare.

Speaker 1 He's a reminder that unchallenged evil does not disappear. It regenerates.

Speaker 1 And if we want true peace, lasting peace, then we have to first learn the truth and tell the truth, not the sanitized version of it, not the version version that keeps activists comfortable, but

Speaker 1 the version that recognizes the path that we're walking on and where it leads if we don't change any course.

Speaker 1 That's why what Governor Abbott did yesterday is so important

Speaker 1 because the past is still speaking,

Speaker 1 and the voice sounds hauntingly familiar.

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Speaker 1 anti-Semitism is on the rise, but it is being sold as honest questioning. And honest questioning is really, really good.
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Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Glenn,

Speaker 2 the saga of Olivia Nozzie.

Speaker 2 This is a great story, a fun story, and a story that I swear to you has a point.

Speaker 2 It's important to understand that at the beginning because you might think this is just salacious nonsense and you're just, you know, dancing on the tragedies of

Speaker 1 this yesterday. I think we covered this yesterday.
There's enough going on in the world that is just,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 it'll curdle milk.

Speaker 1 You know, you read a story and you're like, oh, and you'll watch the milk in your coffee just curdle all of a sudden because you're just saying, I think the world is coming to an end.

Speaker 1 And it curdles and you got lumps in your coffee. This is, I think there's time once in a while just for just

Speaker 1 fun, satisfying stories. And this one is that.

Speaker 2 Yes. And I will begin the story at the very, very start, Glenn.
And I will start it with a question for you.

Speaker 2 And this is a question that I think sets the scene for the entire journey we're about to go on.

Speaker 2 Olivia Knutson, journalist.

Speaker 2 Let's do it. She starts her career.
Very first job.

Speaker 2 She volunteers as an intern

Speaker 2 for what campaign?

Speaker 2 Volunteers as an intern for what campaign?

Speaker 1 It just has to be Bill Clinton.

Speaker 2 That's a good signal. Good guess.

Speaker 2 However, timing wise.

Speaker 1 It's got to be him. Anthony Weiner.

Speaker 2 Anthony Wiener is the answer.

Speaker 2 She

Speaker 2 volunteers for the failed mayoral campaign of Anthony Wiener.

Speaker 2 So this is how this sorry

Speaker 1 starts. So she starts covering Wiener's.

Speaker 2 Yes, she starts covering Wiener's, and the whole story is her doing more of that. We'll get into that as we go.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 she starts with the Wiener campaign, and this is a disaster. It's

Speaker 2 kind of a legendary catastrophe. They have a documentary going on.
We talked about that at the time.

Speaker 2 Totally, the whole thing flames apart.

Speaker 1 By the way, I'm just sitting here thinking, I don't think I was technically wrong when I said it was a Clinton campaign.

Speaker 2 Because remember, that's true.

Speaker 1 Hillary Clinton is all over the wiener.

Speaker 2 But that's, please don't say it like that. But yes,

Speaker 2 that is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because if I say it like that, it leads you to believe. And that is absolutely not true.

Speaker 2 I don't think she's ever been all over the place. I just don't.

Speaker 2 I think, yes, because you remember, Uma Abedeen at this time is married to Anthony Wiener. Can you use air quotes? She's air quoting all over the place.

Speaker 2 On her wonderful path to Marias Soros. She's at that time married to Weiner, and she's helping out Hillary Clinton as her, like, you know, top dog main assistant.
Okay, so that's all going.

Speaker 2 That's just the first thing. It's got almost nothing to do with the Soros.

Speaker 1 Did you use air quotes for assistant there as well?

Speaker 2 I did not. I did not.
All right. Okay.

Speaker 2 So, how does Olivia Nootzi get into our lives? She goes to she goes from the Wiener campaign and leaves and writes basically

Speaker 2 a tell-all

Speaker 2 you know scandal log of what was going on during the wiener campaign. Basically, this thing was a catastrophe.

Speaker 2 She tells the inside story and releases it to the Daily News who prints this column from, at this point, a 20-year-old aspiring journalist.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 she's pretty, she's glamorous, she's kind of like the New York

Speaker 2 elite journalist that you'd exactly picture in this situation. So she gets this and turns that one column into

Speaker 2 a job while she's still in college. She's at Fordham.
She's still at college. She turns that one column

Speaker 2 to Fordham, of course.

Speaker 2 I thought you'd like that detail.

Speaker 2 Yeah, for multiple reasons.

Speaker 1 My daughter went to Fordham.

Speaker 1 They actually had the balls to, they held rallies against me on the Fordham campus, and then they had the balls to come and ask my wife and I to come in to meet with a dean because they wanted to know if we would help them build a library.

Speaker 1 There were words that started

Speaker 1 with F that were not fruit.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 1 as we left that meeting,

Speaker 2 Fordham? That was the F word Fordham.

Speaker 2 You, Fordham, you? No. No.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Fordham you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's the university. That's what I mean.
Fordham University. Fordham you.

Speaker 2 Anyway, go ahead. Okay, so she gets hired from that one column as one of the main

Speaker 2 presidential campaign correspondents for The Daily Beast, which tells you yet again something about the standards at the Daily Beast when it comes to journalism, which are exactly zero.

Speaker 2 They have higher standards at Fordham.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 those are pretty low. And those are low.

Speaker 2 She's going to cover the Chris Christie campaign, the Rand Paul campaign, and p some of the early bubbling beginnings of the Donald Trump campaign. This is back in 2014, 15 and there.

Speaker 2 She, in 2015, as you note, as she's in this job, she does do that tweet about House of Cards and how women should not, or Hollywood should not misportray the journalists that are females because they're always saying that they sleep with their sources.

Speaker 2 And that's a terrible thing for her to do. So they point that out, which is an amazing thing for multiple reasons, Glenn, because, well, I'll get into that here in a second.
So,

Speaker 2 she does that. She then gets named by Politico one of the 16 breakout media stars of the presidential election.
This is November 2016.

Speaker 2 She then, in February 2017, parlays that into a job as the Washington correspondent of New York Magazine. She's 24 years old.
24 years old, Washington correspondent at New York Magazine.

Speaker 2 You say, wow, that's a prestigious position. Who held it before her? No one.
They literally create this job for her,

Speaker 2 which is incredible.

Speaker 2 She's 24 years old.

Speaker 1 It's not probably the only position created for her.

Speaker 2 She may have several that she's documented in

Speaker 2 a book or two that we could go over later.

Speaker 2 Okay, so,

Speaker 2 and you wonder, and this is a time to pause.

Speaker 1 Jesus would not be doing this segment. I just want to let you know right here and now.

Speaker 2 It's true. It's true.
Yeah, all right. So

Speaker 2 you think about what a meteoric rise this is. I mean, this is, Glenn, you know this.
This is not how media operates. You don't do what she's done here.
This is

Speaker 2 like incredible. It's like she, you know, someone who never played basketball before and is in the NBA three years later.
Like, it's like legitimately an incredible rise.

Speaker 2 You wonder how that rise occurred. Those questions may be answered later on.

Speaker 1 Stop using the word rise. You're making me uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 2018, she's included in the Forbes 30 under 30 list, which is a very prestigious list.

Speaker 2 In October 2018, as a member of working for New York Magazine, she's invited for an exclusive interview. In the Oval Office to interview Donald Trump.
Again, she's 25 at this point. Very prestigious.

Speaker 2 She's awarded a next Award by the American Society of Magazine Editors. She gets a documentary on MSNBC.
She portrays herself on the Showtime show Billions

Speaker 2 in 2022. Oh my gosh.
Like, again,

Speaker 2 this is someone who's a massive celebrity in that world. You might not know her name, but she is a massive celebrity.

Speaker 2 She,

Speaker 2 you know, worked, gets a six-part interview series for Bloomberg. And then she does a profile of RFK Jr., the candidate who you may remember running for president as a Democrat.
Okay.

Speaker 2 I can't remember if the profile happened when he was running as a Democrat or he had kind of flipped to an independent, but it's before he is endorsing Trump or there's Maha or any of that stuff, right?

Speaker 2 Like in that period. And she does this profile of him that I guess goes pretty well.

Speaker 2 And it comes out much more favorable, I would say, than many of the other previews,

Speaker 2 profiles of RFK Jr. in this period.

Speaker 2 But again, it has some criticism and some quirkiness in it. And her style of writing has all sorts of weird details.
And

Speaker 2 sometimes it's kind of, I think it's actually pretty good. Like, I think some of her reporting was pretty good.
She did have some really fascinating stories that she wrote over this period.

Speaker 2 But like... The celebrities seem to overextend past maybe what she had achieved in her career so far.
So she writes this profile of RFK Jr.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 it it is the news breaks that RFK Jr. and

Speaker 2 Olivia Newtsie are having what they call an emotional affair, which seems to be lots of very detailed, loving

Speaker 2 text messages back and forth, promises about

Speaker 2 loving.

Speaker 1 Is it like, you know, you are

Speaker 1 You are a child of God, and I just love you and want to help you anyway. Is that what you mean by loving Or do you mean like

Speaker 1 Barry White loving?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 to put it another way, we're talking about a Kennedy, so I'm talking about Kennedy-style loving,

Speaker 2 which is

Speaker 1 ding-dong pizza delivery.

Speaker 2 It's important to note that Olivia Nutzi is engaged to another journalist, Ryan Lizza, at this time. And so she's engaged to somebody.

Speaker 2 RFK Jr., not that this makes seemingly any difference to him whatsoever, is married at the time and is still currently married to an actress in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 So he's doing this, she's doing this, this is suboptimal, not only for a marriage, but also a presidential campaign. And this goes on.
The news finally breaks that this has happened.

Speaker 2 Now, this is a problem for a bunch of reasons. Number one,

Speaker 2 you have a fiancé. Number two, the person you're texting with is married.
Number three, though, a really serious journalist problem, right?

Speaker 2 Like you're profiling someone and having an affair with them at the same time. That is frowned upon, at least in theory, in the world of journalism.

Speaker 2 Now, in practice, God only knows, but in theory, you're not supposed to do that, Glenn. This is something they tell you relatively early on at journalism school, I assume.

Speaker 2 And so,

Speaker 1 I gotta apologize to all those people I've been sleeping with that come on the show.

Speaker 2 How many people have you profiled, Glenn?

Speaker 2 Just profiled

Speaker 2 the great great Mooftie. Have you ever had any relations with

Speaker 1 the relations with the Mooftie? I've got to tell you the truth, Stu. Yep.

Speaker 2 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Back in 1942.

Speaker 2 So all of this comes out

Speaker 2 in the media, and

Speaker 2 she gets fired from New York magazine because of this journalistic lapse. And she sort of goes into hiding.

Speaker 2 She goes into hiding. She moves.
She is not saying word one about this, and she, you know, she talks a lot. So that's, that's notable.

Speaker 2 In this period, Ryan Lizza, her ex-fiancé now, they broke up, ex-fiancé,

Speaker 2 and her are negotiating, according to him, a

Speaker 2 do not, what is it,

Speaker 2 non-disclosure. Don't talk about this, don't talk about this, don't disparage, no,

Speaker 2 let's just let this be over. He also gets a message, according to him, from an intermediate friend that says, says, Hey, she never wants to talk about this again.

Speaker 2 She hopes you'll never talk about this again. Can we just move past this? And he, according to him, says, You know what? I'm on board with that.
Let's just never let this go.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 a little bit of time goes on, and what we learn is her time in exile has actually been spent writing a book, which is called American Kanto.

Speaker 2 It is coming out in a couple of weeks from today,

Speaker 2 or from yesterday, two weeks from yesterday.

Speaker 1 And it's a book that's...

Speaker 1 Does the book include her time with Governor Mark Sanford?

Speaker 2 Well, we're getting to that.

Speaker 1 2019, 2020. I mean, she was sleeping with him too before the JFK thing?

Speaker 2 That's a big part of the story that we're getting to here because she,

Speaker 2 at this point, we don't even know. At this point in the story, we have no idea about that.
We only know about the RFK Jr. thing.

Speaker 2 So she releases this book, and in it is all these details about the RFK Jr. thing.

Speaker 2 Now, you'd think the way the media would handle this woman, who they've just ejected from their society for massive journalistic and moral lapses, would be hammering her over her activity here.

Speaker 2 Instead, she gets a glowing profile in the New York Times with like her, with the incredible foot. You got to see the footage, Glenn.
You'd love it. It's her.

Speaker 2 She's driving in a convertible, hair in the wind, like Chanel glasses. She looks spectacular as she's going down.
This is how the New York Times rolls this out for her. And she

Speaker 2 talks about her RSK Jr. affair.

Speaker 1 Okay, Kay, can you stop using a few terms you just used with the going down?

Speaker 1 Let's stop using that as well.

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Hello, Stu.

Speaker 1 How are you doing?

Speaker 2 Glenn, I'm good. I'm good.
I'm, I'm, you know, it's a big day, lots of stuff going on.

Speaker 2 I'm ready for the show. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. So let's start with Venezuela.

Speaker 1 The New York Times is now reporting that Trump has been said to authorize CIA plans for covert action in Venezuela.

Speaker 1 Now, when I read this story, I thought to myself, didn't I read this story about three or four weeks ago?

Speaker 1 I think this is the exact story. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Do you remember it? I think this is the exact story that the New York Times or somebody else came out with about four weeks ago.

Speaker 1 We have Jason here who watches, you know, this kind of stuff. Am I right in thinking that, Jason? Just heard this.

Speaker 1 Three or four weeks ago or a month ago, something like that. Yeah, right.
Just heard this. There's nothing new here.

Speaker 1 So what exactly is the New York Times doing?

Speaker 1 They're parroting what they were slipped from their unnamed source. Imagine that.

Speaker 1 So what do you mean they were slipped from an unnamed source? What do you mean by that? There's no way this is a leak. Like, oh, we got to get this out because it's like atrocious what's happening.

Speaker 1 This is approved, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 This is something that

Speaker 1 this is something that you're seeing the deep state in action. Somebody wants to make sure that

Speaker 1 this is

Speaker 1 circled around. So everybody's like, oh my gosh, what are we doing in Venezuela? What are we doing in Venezuela? We've already told you what we're doing in Venezuela.

Speaker 1 This is to secure the Western hemisphere, to get China out of the Western Hemisphere.

Speaker 1 This has everything to do with that little training island that we told you about a year or two ago, where Hamas and Hezbollah are training people in Venezuela, just off the coast.

Speaker 1 That's what this is about. This is to stop the infiltration of the Islamic radicals

Speaker 1 in cahoots with Maduro in Venezuela. That's what this is about.
And the Chinese are an extra added benefit. You know, don't believe the, you know, well, it's the drugs.

Speaker 1 I mean, if it was a drug thing, we would also be going after Mexico. I mean, not that that doesn't play a role, but

Speaker 1 it's only part of the story, and we've told you that.

Speaker 1 And now, you know, Trump authorizing plans for the CIA. Yeah, we know that.
You said that to us long ago.

Speaker 1 Now, at the same time that is happening, there was a video that was released from the Democrats. Now, these are Democrats

Speaker 1 that are currently, you know, in power, big-name Democrats. And listen to what they're telling the troops and intel officers.
Listen to this.

Speaker 1 I'm Senator Alyssa Slotkin. Senator Mark Kelly.
Representative Chris DeLuzio. Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander.
Representative Chrissy Houlihan. Congressman Jason Crowe.

Speaker 1 That was a captain in the United States Navy. Former CIA officer.
Former Navy. Former paratrooper and Army Ranger.
Former intelligence officer. Former Air Force.

Speaker 1 We want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community who take risks each day to keep Americans safe. We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.

Speaker 1 Americans trust their military. But that trust is at risk.
This administration is pitting our uniformed military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens.

Speaker 1 Like us, you all swore an oath. To protect and defend this Constitution.
Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear.

Speaker 1 You can refuse illegal orders. You can refuse illegal orders.
You must refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

Speaker 1 We know this is hard and that it's a difficult time to be a public servant. But whether you're serving in the CIA, in the Army, or Navy, the Air Force, your vigilance is critical.

Speaker 1 And know that we have your back. Because now, more than ever, the American people need you.
We need you to stand up for our laws, our Constitution, and who we are as Americans. Don't give up.

Speaker 1 Don't give up. Don't give up.
Don't give up the ship.

Speaker 1 hmm so i'm looking at this and i'm thinking i agree 100 with everything they just said 100

Speaker 1 my question is

Speaker 1 why are they saying it what what illegal orders and why now are you telling me that all of the stuff with usaid all of the stuff that was going on with the fbi with our intelligence community with russia russia russia all of that stuff was on the up and up they had no concern about that when When Barack Obama was targeting U.S.

Speaker 1 citizens to be droned, U.S. citizens to be droned, they had no problem with it.

Speaker 1 And now all of a sudden, because of what? Venezuela?

Speaker 1 Now, all of a sudden, they have a problem. No, I don't think so.
I think

Speaker 1 this is the beginning of a campaign.

Speaker 1 And again, all it does is sow seeds of doubt, not in the mind of the military, not in the mind of, well, maybe CIA, but I think CIA is off on their own territory anyway.

Speaker 1 This sows the seed of doubt in the mind of the average American. They're now sowing the seed saying Donald Trump is doing something unconstitutional

Speaker 1 with our military. What is it? Speak clearly.
Don't say we're under pressure.

Speaker 1 Speak clearly. What exactly is he doing that is unconstitutional that

Speaker 1 they should disobey? I'd like to know what it is.

Speaker 1 Because all this is doing is undermining.

Speaker 2 Is it Venezuela? Like, did they state, you know? No, they didn't say that. It's just generalized advice.

Speaker 2 Whatever you do, don't like it's that seems really sketchy because we were talking about this a little bit off the air and that like there's a version of that that's like treasonous, right?

Speaker 2 Like you're telling the military to not listen to the commander-in-chief. Now, that's, I don't think that was the version of it that is treasonous.
I think that that was worded very carefully.

Speaker 2 And as you point out, I don't think anyone would disagree that if there's something blatantly illegal, you shouldn't be doing it.

Speaker 2 But I guess their idea is

Speaker 2 some of these, is it maybe Venezuela, are they trying to encourage these people to not drone the ships? Like, what are the, what is the, what's the ask here?

Speaker 1 They didn't mention, I don't know. They're just, they're just sending out.
That's why this seems so unbelievably

Speaker 1 calculated to cause chaos because they're not sowing seeds in the doubt of the minds of the military. They are sowing the seeds of doubt in the mind of the U.S.
public.

Speaker 1 This went out to everybody in the whole world. And what it is sending is a message to the whole world.
Our president is so bad that we in Congress need to tell the military do not obey him.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 1 can you be specific on what exactly

Speaker 1 on what exactly

Speaker 1 no they they can't be specific if you could be specific i would have no problem i if if you came out with that message and you said look

Speaker 1 we just want to restate the policy of the united states whether the president is a republican or a democrat

Speaker 1 You do not have to obey the commander of chief if he is asking for things that are unconstitutional. For instance, if he asks you to do X, Y, or Z.
They're not just talking about as well as

Speaker 1 the military. What's intriguing to me is they're also including the CIA.

Speaker 1 Who in their right mind today thinks the CIA is under control?

Speaker 1 Who in their right mind thinks the CIA is actually living within the constitutional bounds? Because Because I don't. Do you? Do you know anybody who thinks that, left or right?

Speaker 1 Does anybody, within a sound of my voice, think that the CIA is actually

Speaker 1 contained

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 living in its own

Speaker 1 little

Speaker 1 space constitutionally where it should be? Does anyone actually believe that they answer to Congress?

Speaker 1 Because I don't. Do you still? Do you, Jason?

Speaker 1 I think the establishment of the CIA is actually

Speaker 1 anti-constitutional,

Speaker 1 to be perfectly honest. I don't think that an organization like the CIA can operate within the bounds of disclosure with

Speaker 1 letting Congress know everything that they're doing. It can't operate that way.
So I think all too many times they understand that and they just do whatever the heck they want to do.

Speaker 1 It's all black ops. It's all black ops stuff.
And,

Speaker 1 you know, look at what,

Speaker 1 where was this message

Speaker 1 when we found out from, what was the guy who blew the whistle and went to Russia? What was his name?

Speaker 1 Snowden? Snowden? Snowden. Where was this message with Snowden?

Speaker 1 When that came out, hey, if you're in the NSA, you're in the CIA, you can't be doing this stuff. So blow the whistle.
Where was that?

Speaker 1 Where has this been, this message been, when any of the whistleblowers have come out?

Speaker 1 Where is this with the whistleblowers that are coming out today about what the CIA has been doing what the intelligence community has been involved in

Speaker 1 where was this message

Speaker 1 this is not an honest message that's the problem with this this is not an honest message this is part of color revolution I'm convinced of it this is just sow the seeds of doubt

Speaker 1 Make sure that you are positioning the president as somebody who is so radical and and so unconstitutional

Speaker 1 that they have to tell the military not to obey his orders without any specifics whatsoever.

Speaker 1 That's pretty remarkable.

Speaker 1 Because again, I don't have a problem with saying that we're one of the only countries. You do not answer to the president of the United States.
You do not answer to your general.

Speaker 1 You answer to the Constitution of the United States. That's absolutely true.
So I have no problem problem with this message being taught. It should be taught by every single president.

Speaker 1 President.

Speaker 1 But it's not. They have seen so many abuses under their rule, and now all of a sudden, you get this?

Speaker 1 Where was this message when the president used the military as a prop?

Speaker 1 behind him in the speech where it was blood red and Biden was saying, these are enemies of the state. You can't do that with the military.

Speaker 1 Where was this message from anyone?

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 you cannot be used as a prop behind the president. You cannot do that.

Speaker 1 I didn't hear anybody saying that because they don't have a problem with it. If it's their side, they don't have a problem with it.
I have a problem with it on both sides.

Speaker 1 I want the military and I want the military. Let me separate these.
I want the military to know,

Speaker 1 we have your back. If the president, any president, is ordering you to do things that are unconstitutional, do not do them.
Do not do them.

Speaker 1 Blow the whistle and the American people should have your back. I know I will have your back.

Speaker 1 To the to intelligence community, you better stop doing what you're doing.

Speaker 1 Because I know the American people, and I don't know if you can be stopped, but I know the American people know that you're doing things that you should not be doing, and you've been doing them under every president for God only knows how long.

Speaker 1 Stop doing it. Because if we ever get into the position where we can stop you, we will.

Speaker 1 And the American people will demand a trial for every single one of you that was breaking the Constitution. Don't care who ordered you to do it.

Speaker 1 It's your responsibility to say no.

Speaker 1 And you haven't. You haven't.

Speaker 1 start saying no to any president, any boss, anybody who is telling you to violate the U.S. Constitution.
Don't do it. Don't do it.

Speaker 1 But I don't think that's the reason why they're saying it. No, and they know this because all of them are veterans of the military or the intelligence community.

Speaker 1 They know, and I've gone through these before, there's already, this is stating the obvious.

Speaker 1 This is already taught within, from the lowest enlistment rates all the way up to the the top, you know, within Officer Can at school and within the military.

Speaker 1 There are procedures, if you ever have an unlawful order, how to

Speaker 1 work through it and report it. Stu, what do you think this is really about? What are they doing?

Speaker 2 It feels like it's about politics, right? I mean, it feels like they are trying to

Speaker 2 build a case that the president is continually engaging in things that are illegal and unconstitutional. And like when I used to, you bring up color revolution.

Speaker 2 I think those, I think it's, I mean, there's a political element to that, and I think so they may very well be related. But if you think about like

Speaker 2 it might be about Venezuela, but I don't think the American people really care about that story. I mean, I don't, you know, I don't know that that's necessarily healthy that we don't care about it.

Speaker 2 I think there are some real questions about the process here and how all of this has gone down.

Speaker 2 But like, I almost feel like it's more related to something like, you know, immigration enforcement, right, in the United States. And that's not, you know, because we've talked about

Speaker 2 the military being involved in cracking down on cities and things of that nature, where, like, you know, we've talked about the questions around them.

Speaker 2 There are legitimate questions about how much can be done in that realm.

Speaker 2 I wonder if they're trying to kind of set that precedent, this sort of tone that the president is engaging in these things, and slowly over time, you can build to not only a political answer, but you know, maybe the color revolution angle and also the chaos in the streets angle.

Speaker 2 At some point, if you believe your president is doing unconstitutional things and forcing the military of the United States to engage in actions that are unconstitutional against the American people, man, you're going to get a lot of people out in the streets for that one if this thing were to be successful.

Speaker 2 So I think that might be the path. Do you buy that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do. I just think that it is, I think the main goal here is just to undermine credibility, just undermine and tear us apart even more.
Undermine credibility, sow the seeds of chaos once again.