Is the Current Department of Education ILLEGAL? | Guest: Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg | 3/20/25

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Speaker 1 Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenbeck Program.
There is a lot going on. Department of Education, the president says he's signing an order to shut a lot of it down.

Speaker 1 He can't shut all of it down, but he's going to dramatically reduce the size of the Department of Education.

Speaker 1 And it's amazing because one of my researchers was going through the founding documents of the Department of Education. and found something remarkable I can't wait to share with you.
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Speaker 1 I have three stories that have done the same thing to me this week, and one you haven't heard about

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Speaker 1 I saw something last night. I couldn't sleep again.
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Speaker 1 so I got up and it's the middle of the night. It's, I don't know, one, two o'clock in the morning.
And

Speaker 1 I go out and I just start working on some stuff. And then I find myself on Instagram and I'm trapped in that hole for a second.

Speaker 1 But I

Speaker 1 stumbled across something from

Speaker 1 Britain's Got Talent, the Simon Cowell Show.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I always love these things where somebody is just amazing, but I found myself on the couch last night, you know, one o'clock in the morning, all by myself, crying like a little girl. I mean, I, I,

Speaker 1 and I'm like, what is happening to me?

Speaker 1 Now, I usually cry, but I've noticed in the last four or five years, and I haven't talked about this, but I, I kind of felt like, gee, you're getting really dead inside, Glenn, because things weren't moving me emotionally.

Speaker 1 And that's weird for me. Um, and, you know, it's not like I was complaining.
I don't like it when I'm tearing up on it, you know, like, man, let me tell you what,

Speaker 1 and the cornflakes were gone. I don't, okay, that's not exactly a manly thing, you know, that I love.

Speaker 1 But let me play a clip of this because I think this is what's happening to me, and maybe it's happening to others. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Listen to this clip. What's your name, please?

Speaker 3 My name is John. I'm 41.

Speaker 1 I'm originally from Wales, but now living in Essex.

Speaker 1 Could I look you in the eye?

Speaker 1 You're just one of the things. Hang on, John.

Speaker 1 John.

Speaker 1 I think we should start this again.

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Speaker 1 She

Speaker 1 up.

Speaker 1 She's gone

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Speaker 1 and running.

Speaker 1 I'm a witch.

Speaker 1 What the hell am I doing here?

Speaker 1 I don't belong here.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm soupy again. I'm like,

Speaker 1 what is happening to me?

Speaker 1 And I'm watching that, and

Speaker 1 I don't know. Maybe it's

Speaker 1 maybe it's the little guy. I'm having a hard time holding it either.
This is so weird. Maybe it's the little guy that is making it, the guy who really thinks I'm alone.
I'm a creep.

Speaker 1 I don't belong. And yet they do, but they don't know it.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's, because

Speaker 1 the other day when they had the splashdown, can you play the splashdown of the astronauts?

Speaker 4 And we're going to stand by for splashdown located in the Gulf of America off the coast of Tallahassee, Florida.

Speaker 1 And Splashdown, crew 9, back on Earth.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Again, it's Splashdown. I've seen this a million times, and all of a sudden, my eyes well up again.
And I'm like, what is happening to me?

Speaker 1 I don't know if this is... It could just be me.
I might be doing a monologue of for one, but

Speaker 1 in thinking over the last few years, my gosh, I'm getting so hard inside.

Speaker 1 And where nothing was really moving me to now, for some unknown reason, I don't know, maybe it's, I don't know, maybe I'm dying. I don't know.
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 Oh, geez, maybe.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm transitioning into a sappy little girl. I don't know.
But

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 maybe I had given up

Speaker 1 on...

Speaker 1 It wasn't...

Speaker 1 I wasn't seeing examples of the little guy winning. I wasn't seeing examples of heroic feats.

Speaker 1 I was seeing politics and politicians and things that I just knew were lies, nobody paying a price and nobody reaching out and going, I'm going there.

Speaker 1 And now we're in this season where all of that, which I think is truly American,

Speaker 1 is coming

Speaker 1 back, is alive again, where the little guy can win. The little guy, they do care about him.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 the president just abandoned these astronauts in space because he didn't want it to look bad for him.

Speaker 1 I mean, one of the American

Speaker 1 principles, something that is in all of us, is we don't leave anyone behind. And we did.

Speaker 1 I mean, everything felt too tough,

Speaker 1 and no one could get anything done. And

Speaker 1 then we had the change in the presidency. And now all that has to be done is Elon Musk, a guy who they're trying to destroy right now.

Speaker 1 Elon Musk said, I can go up and get them.

Speaker 1 I mean, think of that.

Speaker 1 Who on the planet can say, I can do that. I'll go get him.

Speaker 1 And he does. And it's successful.
And it's heroic. And the astronauts, they didn't badmouth anybody.
They didn't, they shared, you know, no matter what happens to us,

Speaker 1 it's going to be fine. It's going to be great.
Just that

Speaker 1 heroic stance of praise God, even if I burn up in the atmosphere. Wow.

Speaker 1 I don't know if anybody else is feeling this, but maybe

Speaker 1 this is a really good sign that things are becoming real again. And we're seeing in an age where AI is growing at leaps and bounds, that we're seeing that inner strength.

Speaker 1 We're seeing that one thing that makes us human.

Speaker 1 You can't do that. Oh, yes, I can.
And I'm going to.

Speaker 1 Because I got this way on another story that I really have no reason to care about.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you this story. I read this today.
It's in our show prep.

Speaker 1 It's a story

Speaker 1 in a place that is just as deadly

Speaker 1 as space. You know, the line is, in space, no one can hear you scream.
Well, the same thing here, except it's on Earth. And there is no Elon Musk to do a rescue.

Speaker 1 And it is a desolate, windswept, barren land where the sun hasn't set in months. But now it's entering a time where it won't rise for months so it will be completely dark little colder

Speaker 1 thermometer on a good day right now is 13 degrees below zero and that's without the wind chill and the wind blows all the time the ice stretches out in every direction it's endless it's unyielding it is a frozen prison it is just like the bottom of the sea

Speaker 1 space on earth

Speaker 1 except we call it the south Pole.

Speaker 1 And right now, there are nine members of the South African National Antarctic Program. They're fighting for their lives at the Sane 4 base.

Speaker 1 And it's not that they've been abandoned by anybody. There's just no resource their government has to rescue them.
They are...

Speaker 1 I think this isn't a story of researchers because these researchers are down there for global warming and everything else. And, you know, the story I read had all of that stuff in it.

Speaker 1 And I don't think it's about the research that they're doing. And that's why they're so heroic because they're, no,

Speaker 1 I think what's amazing about this story is they're finding out who they really are.

Speaker 1 And let me set the scene for you.

Speaker 1 There is Dr. Lawana, a guy who's a dermatologist and a physiologist.

Speaker 1 I don't know what he has to do with global warming because I don't want to get sidetracked. Then you have eight other people, engineers, meteorologists, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 And they arrived at this base in December 2023. And they were supposed to be relieved in February.

Speaker 1 But the replacements never came because the ship that was supposed to bring the new team got stuck in Cape Town because it had mechanical issues.

Speaker 1 And now these nine are stranded and they're facing a 13-month winter in one of the most hostile places on Earth. They're at a

Speaker 1 base camp that's perched on this rocky outcrop

Speaker 1 and it's surrounded by glacial ice. I mean, they're not sitting inside with hot cocoa and blankets and, you know, going skiing.

Speaker 1 They are trying to survive this place where the wind, on average, is like 60 miles an hour. And the ice, they just face this.
The ice can swallow you whole.

Speaker 1 They were just facing something. I don't remember what it was called.
It's in the story, but they're facing something where the ice can start to contract and start to come in.

Speaker 1 And they thought the entire station that was built in the 70s was going to be swallowed up and crushed by the ice what do we do do we get crushed inside or we wait outside with no help coming and just freeze to death what do you do

Speaker 1 the closest help is 2500 miles away that's the distance between new york and los angeles but there's no highways there's no little cute little hotel and a cafe or gas station along the way there's nothing but ice.

Speaker 1 An ice-filled ocean, storms that sink ships all the time. The ship that was supposed to pick them up, that's their lifeline under repair.
And even if it would set sail today,

Speaker 1 it will take weeks, if not months, to reach them. And in the meantime, they're on their own, dwindling supplies, the Antarctic winter closing in.

Speaker 1 And it's not like people in South Africa have forgotten about. This team is a source of national pride.

Speaker 1 This base, I think they've been at this base off and on since the 1960s, and it's their commitment to global cooperation. So it's a big deal to them.

Speaker 1 And it's, you know, a cluster of buildings that are up above the ice, so it's just not buried by snow all the time. Inside, right now, the lights are flickering on and off.

Speaker 1 The generator struggles against the cold. This is normal.

Speaker 1 The team is huddled together, rationing their food, their fuel.

Speaker 1 They're trying to keep morale up, but it's hard. They're checking weather reports, knowing full well that a storm will cut them off from any hope of rescue for weeks.

Speaker 1 The others, the engineers, the scientists, the mechanic, working around the clock just to keep everything running. Remember, they have had no replenishment of supplies.
The equipment is old.

Speaker 1 The conditions are brutal. They're running out of time.
And they've already faced-I mean, they were surrounded by the ice

Speaker 1 and they thought they were going to get crushed. They've been cut off from communication for days and weeks because the satellite fails in the storms.

Speaker 1 The psychological toll, especially when you're going into never-ending darkness,

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 So, why am I telling you this story? Because I don't think that I think this is another example of things

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 will move us as we watch these people.

Speaker 1 This is not about nine people in a far-off place. This is about the human spirit.
It's about what we're capable of when all of the odds are stacked against us.

Speaker 1 These nine South Africans, they're a microcosm of humanity. They are just all fighting to survive, to contribute, to make a difference.

Speaker 1 If they fail, we lose more than just data on global warming. We lose a story of resilience.
We lose a story that could inspire us and our kids for generations.

Speaker 1 You know, help 2,500 miles away across the southern ocean.

Speaker 1 One of the most treacherous bodies of water on earth all around them.

Speaker 1 There's no airstrip. You can't land a plane there.

Speaker 1 These nine are on their own

Speaker 1 and every day that they hold out and they have their morale up is a testament to the human spirit to their grit their faith their determination I wanted you to know this story today

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 I don't know who you are what you're going through but strangely I always feel like we're friends somehow

Speaker 1 And I don't know what you're going through, but I know there are people right now facing problems and they think there is no way out.

Speaker 1 But if you just hold on and you do the next right thing,

Speaker 1 you will prove to yourself

Speaker 1 that you have the same spirit the explorers have inside of them. It lives in all of us.
It's already there, but it only shows itself when you or I activate it, when we refuse to give up.

Speaker 1 That's the human spirit spirit that just never ends

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Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 I have some pressing things to do today about

Speaker 1 our economy, about politics, about the judges. I spoke to a federal judge last night, and he was like, Clanton,

Speaker 1 judges have got to start speaking out. He's like,

Speaker 1 I don't ever do that because I don't like judging judges because I, I didn't hear the case. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 He said, but what's happening in Washington now with the left and these judges going after, he said, this is really bad and judges need to start speaking out. So I've got something on that.

Speaker 1 But then I got up this morning and I saw a story that

Speaker 1 I don't know what to make of it.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 you know, I did some research on it. We're going to do more

Speaker 1 research on it, but the research that I could do on it in an hour or so today appears that it is real,

Speaker 1 but there's two companies involved, and

Speaker 1 the people who commissioned this study, you know, kind of believe in some crazy things, you know, about the pyramids and everything else. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 But if what they found is real and Grok was telling me, yeah, I've done the, I mean, I had two pages of

Speaker 1 source material saying yeah this is true this is true but nobody else has confirmed it yet so we don't know but it was showing me all of the data and showing me the basically the x-rays um this is the you know how an x-ray just will look at your bones

Speaker 1 they took this space-based technology and they pointed it to the pyramids to see what was at the base of the pyramids.

Speaker 1 And not only do they find things at the base of the pyramids, they found found things under the great pyramids of Giza

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 if it's real it just changes absolutely everything

Speaker 1 everything

Speaker 1 so they are using synthetic

Speaker 1 aperture radar SAR

Speaker 1 and it can see through the dirt and stone and it bounces signals off of things underground and listens for tiny vibrations. What they found is huge hidden structures deep beneath the pyramid.

Speaker 1 Now, let me give you what they think they found.

Speaker 1 Five huge rooms or buildings near the pyramid's base, underground, linked by paths with slanted roofs and layers inside of the pyramids, and then tunnels that go down and connect the pyramids. Okay.

Speaker 1 Then they found eight

Speaker 1 really large tube-like holes. They're like wells that go down.
And they're kind of deep.

Speaker 1 They're

Speaker 1 600 meters deep. The hole, there's five of them.

Speaker 1 That's half a mile. 600 meters deep underneath the pyramids.
Then Under that are these giant cube-shaped rooms, each about 80 meters, which think of a football field, okay?

Speaker 1 Down at the bottom where the tubes meet, all of this stretches two kilometers. That's over a mile underground.
So this structure is over a mile underground.

Speaker 1 If any of that is true,

Speaker 1 The slaves didn't do that.

Speaker 1 We have no idea what that,

Speaker 1 but they're saying now this is a, it's not a, if it's true. I want to make sure.
Not confirmed, right? Not confirmed.

Speaker 1 It's confirmed by these two companies that did this study, but there's no outside person that has come out that I know of that I could find that is saying, yes, we checked all the data, but they've released all the data.

Speaker 1 Okay. So I don't know.
But

Speaker 1 that would lead you to believe that the pyramids were not built by the Egyptians. They weren't a tomb.
We don't know

Speaker 1 what they are.

Speaker 1 But I found it, I don't know, I kind of found it exciting that, and a little frightening because

Speaker 1 have we been to the singularity before?

Speaker 1 Think of this.

Speaker 1 We are on this

Speaker 1 pace now to discover and to be able to do things that we never thought we could do.

Speaker 1 The story of the Tower of Babel is, you know, God comes down, destroys, and confuses everybody's language because if they can do this, they can do anything.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 whether you believe in God and all of this stuff doesn't really matter. It is a story of a group of people

Speaker 1 looking at people just as a collective,

Speaker 1 let us build bricks and build a tower of sky and then doing things because they could work with the collective and control the collective and do

Speaker 1 anything

Speaker 1 we don't know how they made the pyramids but if they if there's structures a mile underneath the pyramids we know

Speaker 1 no ancient civilization that we know of did this

Speaker 1 That's pretty

Speaker 1 That's pretty incredible. Did we have technology? Forget about space aliens and everything else.
Did man get to this point before,

Speaker 1 destroy itself,

Speaker 1 history erased it,

Speaker 1 new civilizations rose up.

Speaker 1 Did the Egyptians,

Speaker 1 were they,

Speaker 1 when they started, were they just like, oh, yeah, those are ours. We built them because I remember seeing them built? Or was it just like they've been there and they're ours? Of course they're ours.

Speaker 1 I mean, who else would have built them? You know what I mean? We're the people that are here.

Speaker 1 I just find this fascinating. Because I just,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I feel like we are

Speaker 1 on the we're on the edge of either being duped by a lot of stuff and pulled way off track, like this could end up being. Right.
Or

Speaker 1 discovering things that completely change everything we think we knew.

Speaker 1 like this could be.

Speaker 1 It's just an exciting time to be alive. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's that's a good way i like the optimism that's an optimistic way of looking at it i mean because you're right i think we're also going to have a lot of things that are false and a lot of things that are miss i think it's already happening you know that are misleading people you said you said to me when we got off the air a minute ago uh about the monologue i just did about the you know about

Speaker 1 being so mushy inside right now. I'm seeing these things that are just heroic and I'm just like, that is so beautiful.

Speaker 1 And I think it's because I'm starting to believe in the human American spirit again in action. I haven't lost my faith in that.
I lost the faith that we could ever be those people again.

Speaker 1 And I'm starting to see it again and believe it again. And I think that's why I'm getting mushy a lot because it's taking me by surprise.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you, and you said you thought it's because it's real.

Speaker 3 I wonder if, I don't know for sure, but it seems like part of it is there's so much fake right now. Like, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 Maybe it's me because I follow a lot of these like A, you know, AI video things. Like, I'm fascinated by the technology and what they're going to come up with, right?

Speaker 3 And so I see so many like

Speaker 3 these videos that are perfect,

Speaker 3 but still, there's still a little of that Uncanny Valley weirdness in it. Yeah.
But also like

Speaker 3 they're not real. These photos,

Speaker 3 they look incredible, but they're not real. And so much of this, now I'm starting, this is starting to happen to me.
I'm starting to see videos online that are incredible.

Speaker 3 And I'm starting to think they're not real, right? Like, I'm starting to just doubt them. Like, that, that's too, too many things went happen at the exact right times.
There's no way.

Speaker 3 And I'm starting to think that those are AI generated. And I'm starting, like, there's this now skepticism of what I'm seeing.
I mean, you've talked about this forever.

Speaker 3 I mean, like one of the first shows we ever did together was you talking about this exact thing at some point.

Speaker 1 In the 90s. Yeah, yeah.
And you thought I was like, I mean, because you really didn't know me back then. I mean, why did you say that?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, because you didn't know me back then, and nobody was talking about this. You had to have thought, okay, maybe, but that sounds nuts.

Speaker 3 It seemed like it could never come to that. Yeah.
Where like you wouldn't be able to believe your own eyes.

Speaker 3 And it's interesting, it's almost the reverse of the way I initially understood what you were saying.

Speaker 3 Because back then, I think my thought was the technology would come along so well that you'd look at something and it would you'd be able to uh uh

Speaker 3 like uh

Speaker 3 things that wouldn't be able to be believed would be able to be created, which obviously is something we've seen now, but also saw during CGI. Right.
Like, you know, in movies.

Speaker 3 Now it's almost the reverse. I'm doubting the real stuff.
Real stuff.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 I know, me too.

Speaker 3 And it's just like, I just assume incredible real experiences are fake.

Speaker 1 Stu, I am so knee-deep in AI right now. I'm working with some really amazing people on some projects.
I'm so deep in it that, and I'm, I decided the other day, I need the best AI ethicists around me.

Speaker 1 I need to talk to them because the deeper you go, the more you say, well,

Speaker 1 how do I verify that? How do I know that's true? How can I ensure people know this is true and original? Just for me, I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out things that, that

Speaker 1 I want

Speaker 1 in my life to be able to navigate in this really weird world.

Speaker 1 And what is coming is just phenomenal.

Speaker 3 I mean, if you think about all like stuff like UFO videos, you know, Bigfoot videos, things of that nature, how many people believe a lot of them from the terrible fakes, right?

Speaker 1 Terrible.

Speaker 3 Imagine that.

Speaker 1 These are not. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're going to get more and more perfect, more and more real.

Speaker 3 I mean, at this.

Speaker 1 That is its flaw. Right now.
Right now. Yeah.
You're right. Once AI understands, once people understand, it cannot be perfect because people are not perfect.
Right now, it's all too perfect.

Speaker 1 And that's where you're like,

Speaker 1 you said it earlier. Yeah.
No, all those things. It's too perfect.
The people are too perfect. The things they're saying is too perfect.

Speaker 1 They have to reintroduce flaws to really con you. And they will.
And they will. They will.
They will.

Speaker 3 You know, like one of the things I always think of when the UFO videos come out, they're always like, look at this. And like, they can never quite get it in frame for you for enough for you to see it.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It's always out of frame.
It's always blurry at the moment you want to see it. Right.
Like, that's how it always was in the old school fakes, right?

Speaker 3 They can, they can start. Like, right now, the AI fakes are, you can actually see perfectly.

Speaker 1 Is that a window in the spacecraft and a little gray guy waving?

Speaker 1 What is that?

Speaker 3 No, you can still tell. I don't know when or if

Speaker 3 that human, there's something about humans that can look at that stuff and still detect it. You know, I don't know how long that lasts.

Speaker 1 I have good news for you. I think on the human to human level, it's getting better.

Speaker 1 Have you heard the,

Speaker 1 do you know who that TikTok influencer is, Harry Sisson?

Speaker 3 I don't know, but I've seen him in the news the last couple of days. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 So he's in the news. You might have seen him.
He looks like he's 12.

Speaker 1 He was hanging out with, you know, Biden and Kamala and on the campaign trail, and he was just one of these influencers that, you know, Obama could, I mean,

Speaker 1 Harris and Biden could just do no wrong.

Speaker 1 No wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 1 One of many. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, there's some things that are coming out about him, and I don't know if they're true or not. It's kind of like the pyramid thing.
Could be, may not be. The system has to play out.

Speaker 1 But what's being kicked around now about him, to me,

Speaker 1 everyone's missing the point on this story. And let me give it to you here.
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Speaker 1 Welcome to the Glen Beck program. All right, so let me tell you about Harry Sisson.
He's 23 years old. He's a Gen Z TikToker.
He's a Democratic advocate. Now, he's facing really serious allegations.

Speaker 1 People are saying, you know, women are coming out and saying, you know, he has, he conned me into sending him explicit photos and pressured them into sex acts and everything else.

Speaker 1 So it's a firestorm online. And the reason why is

Speaker 1 he's been with Biden and Kamala Harris and Barack Obama, rising star in the progressive circles. And he is coming out and saying these claims are fake.

Speaker 1 But here's the interesting part of this, to me at least, because I don't know if any of that is true. It's kind of like the pyramids.
Could all be fake. Could all be fake.

Speaker 1 But what's interesting is the broader context.

Speaker 1 There's a pattern with progressives dating back to the early 20th century

Speaker 1 where they hide the Fabian socialist. You know, the stained glass window at the London School of Economics has the sheep or wolf in sheep's clothing.
They always hide who they are.

Speaker 1 He is now being outed

Speaker 1 as not being gay.

Speaker 3 Wait, what? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's the controversy. The left is now outing him as not being gay.

Speaker 1 As if that's a betrayal of progressive ideals.

Speaker 1 He's hiding behind.

Speaker 1 No, is that really the truth? That is.

Speaker 3 That is. That's the controversy?

Speaker 1 Well, no, no, that's one of the things.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that he is now looking, that he's being outed for not being gay. That is the craziest thing.
Oh, my God. Which tells me that

Speaker 1 people have had enough of the fake stuff.

Speaker 1 It shows me the left just has no idea what their identity is anymore, that they are absolutely imploding.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 there are some people who are saying, wait a minute, you're a fake. You're not even gay.

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Speaker 1 The president is also supposed to sign an executive order reducing the size of the Department of Education by half today.

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We'll get into that in just a second. Also, last night I did a show on Ukraine and NATO.

Speaker 1 And I'm at this place now that

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Speaker 1 They in, you know, I don't know how long, but they will eventually be a failed state ripe for the picking from somebody.

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Speaker 1 Just as it stands now, Germany is saying we don't have anything in common anymore because J.D. Vance gave a speech about freedom of speech.
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Speaker 1 I don't understand it. So I laid the case out both for and against, but I also got into

Speaker 1 Ukraine and Russia and the history of all of that. We have the special envoy to Ukraine appointed by President Trump to negotiate and engage directly with the Ukrainian leadership.

Speaker 1 He's joining me here in a second. We're going to talk a little bit about what happened yesterday with the phone calls with Putin and then with Zelensky.
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Joining me now, General Keith Kellogg, the current U.S.

Speaker 1 Special Envoy to Ukraine, appointed by President

Speaker 1 Trump. He is retired lieutenant general with a distinguished military career.

Speaker 1 He has served as the National Security Advisor for former Vice President Mike Pence, Chief of Staff and Executive Secretary for the National Security Council during Trump's first term.

Speaker 1 Extensive experience in national security and Ukraine-Russia policy make him now the key diplomat during this pivotal time for Ukraine. General Kellogg, welcome.
Thanks for joining me.

Speaker 1 Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me on. It's good to be with you.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 I want to talk to you because I know we're in the middle of negotiations and there's some things things that you just can't say, but

Speaker 1 let's talk about the things that you're comfortable in sharing. We're in the middle of this ceasefire now.
Ukraine agreed to a 30-day ceasefire.

Speaker 1 Can you talk a little bit about how we got there? I mean, Biden, it didn't even seem like they were attempting to do that, and we just kept doubling down on things that were making it worse.

Speaker 1 What's the difference in Trump's approach

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 what Biden Biden was doing and what was that leading us into and what is this hopefully leading us to? What's the difference?

Speaker 1 You know, Glenn, what a God, what a great question.

Speaker 7 Look, this goes back to when President Biden in a press conference said a minimal incursion of Ukraine by the Russians may be okay.

Speaker 7 Well, he didn't understand that a minimal incursion by Putin is significantly different in his interpretation and my interpretation and Putin's interpretation, Chad invasion.

Speaker 7 And then what happened is that Biden didn't even pick up the phone, didn't even talk to Putin in over three years, kind of just said,

Speaker 7 I'm not going to talk to the guy.

Speaker 7 And then he made the comment, as long as it takes whatever it takes, we're going to support Ukraine. Well, Glenn, that's not a strategy.
It's a bumper sticker.

Speaker 7 So you basically had a proxy war going on, and the President of our United States refusing to even address one of the protagonists in the war, the protagonists in the war.

Speaker 7 The difference between President Trump and President Biden is

Speaker 7 night and day. President Trump believed quite deeply, and he's absolutely right in this, the war wouldn't have started if he was president,

Speaker 7 he believes in personal discussions, personal negotiations. And that's the reason I knew that this was going to succeed when he wanted to end this war.

Speaker 7 Because he was going to pick up the phone and call Putin, which he did. He was going to call Zelensky, which he did.
He was going to call everybody, from Xi to Kim John-hoon, whoever it is.

Speaker 7 He's always had ability to do it.

Speaker 7 Because he believes if you don't talk to your adversaries or your allies or your friends, then you've got a major issue happening because nobody really understands where you're coming from.

Speaker 7 So President Trump said he's going to end this war. He has now established himself as basically the interlocutor between both Russia and

Speaker 7 Ukraine. And it's been day 58.
And we're already talking to him. We're already at a partial ceasefire.
We want to get to a comprehensive ceasefire. That's always been the plan.

Speaker 7 And then after a comprehensive ceasefire, you go to a full

Speaker 7 peace discussion or peace treaty, whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 7 And I think I was on a television network, I was on Fox network, and made the comment that I think it could have within the first hundred days. I still believe that.

Speaker 7 So you have a chance to have this, the longest war in Europe since World War II, with hundreds of thousands of casualties.

Speaker 7 on both sides and in a relatively near term. And it's all because of one person.
It's because the guy who knows knows how to make deals, the guy who wrote the art of the deal, Donald J.

Speaker 7 Trump, and he's going to bring it that way. And he's put a great team together.
He's got Steve Witkoff, an incredibly talented individual, running the Russia lane, and I'm running the Ukraine lane.

Speaker 7 And he's got a great team behind him with Secretary Rubio or Pete Hegsetz or Mike Walls. You know, you name it.
It's just a great team. And we're all pushing hard.
We're on Trump time, Go ahead.

Speaker 7 And you know, and I both know, Trump time is much different than anybody else's time. Oh, yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you, because I had family members call me about this. I have so many people that I know that don't necessarily agree with me.

Speaker 1 When that argument with Zelensky and Trump happened in the Oval, everybody said, my gosh, he's going to get us into World War III. And I said, he's negotiating.
Read the art of the deal.

Speaker 1 First of all, that's kind of the stuff that Zelensky does. He tries to try it in the court of public opinion.

Speaker 1 And Trump's just not intimidated by that. But he had to be tough on them, not as a way to say, I'm going to give favors to Russia, but he had to get them to the table and then go to Russia.

Speaker 1 And now he's tough on Russia. And you don't hear anybody saying, oh, well, he's being so kind to Ukraine.

Speaker 1 He's a master negotiator. Tell me about that moment in the...
in the oval if you can.

Speaker 7 Yeah, let me give you a little bit of background on that because what happened is that morning, we met with President Zelensky at the Hay Adams Hotel right across from the White House.

Speaker 7 And we said to him, look, we kind of stage managed. This is what you want to do.
You want to come in and talk to the president. You want to, he'll bring the press in.
You want to

Speaker 7 thank you to the American people for giving $176 million of taxpayer money to support you.

Speaker 7 And then when you're going to have a lunch, and then you have this press conference, and you exit the stage left, and that's all good. Well, he came in.
He didn't listen to what we told him to do.

Speaker 7 And he came in, and he started to lecture the president. And we had had told him before, you are dealing with a different person.

Speaker 1 This gentleman is not Joe Biden, okay?

Speaker 7 And the president let him go. And it was like, and I was standing

Speaker 7 right behind the vice president and right behind Secretary Rubio. And I was one of those, you know, wanted to reach over and say, you clearly didn't listen to what we said.
The president let him go.

Speaker 7 And then when he said, you need to kind of pick a side, I knew that was the end. the end state.
And basically it turned out he just

Speaker 7 blew up everything. And the president wasn't going to budge.

Speaker 7 And I think that is the first time that President Zelensky found out that he was going to try to play to the American people through the American press who were in the Oval Office.

Speaker 7 And he was dealing with a guy who knew the press better than he did. And as the President said publicly afterwards, heck, that was even better than one of the apprentice shows.

Speaker 1 And it really was. It was.

Speaker 7 And we said to him, We hold the ace. You know, and

Speaker 7 the president said we hold all the cars, we said, fine, we're not going to give you any more aid. Cut it off.
Okay, that just

Speaker 7 was basically hitting him upside the head with a two by four. Saying, do you realize what you've just done?

Speaker 7 And they went to the Roosevelt room, and then they wanted to come back in. The president said, nope, thank you very much, but you're done.
And we escorted them out of the White House.

Speaker 1 That's why that's ever been done.

Speaker 7 But that kind of got their attention. And so what happened is in an intervening couple of weeks, everybody kind of not everybody, but the Ukrainians kind of understood what had happened.

Speaker 7 And it generated a call, obviously, between President Putin two days ago and then President Splinski yesterday. And the call could not have gone better.
It was a great call.

Speaker 7 And there was a lot of great discussion. It went for well over an hour.

Speaker 1 Which one? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Is that the Zelensky call?

Speaker 7 Yeah, the Zelensky call. See, there is an hour.
It's almost comparative in time because Putin's call went almost two hours. Well, remember, Putin uses the translator.
So that's

Speaker 1 a problem for time.

Speaker 7 And then Zelensky spoke in English. And so it was basically a comparative call and spent some time and effort.
And And it was just a good call. And he had the team around him, he, the president.

Speaker 7 Zelensky was in Finland. He was with President Alex Dubb, who was a great friend of ours, by the way.
He actually went to school in Furman and actually plays golf with the president.

Speaker 7 So he was there supporting. And I think we're all in a good shape.
And this week, we are putting what we call

Speaker 7 technical teams in what are called proximity talks in Saudi Arabia, where both sides come in, they're kept in separate rooms, and you basically say, okay, what is your terms?

Speaker 7 And you turn to the other side, what are your terms? You kind of do, it's basically shuttle diplomacy between rooms in Riyadh, and that's where they're at.

Speaker 7 And then we see where we can get to a comprehensive ceasefire.

Speaker 7 And that'll be the first step towards the end of this war.

Speaker 7 And I think that's pretty fast.

Speaker 1 The president said to me at one point, and I'm sure he has said this publicly as well,

Speaker 1 that, you know, he wasn't really prepared to be, he thought he was, but it was such a different job the first time around.

Speaker 1 And, you know, you know, where everybody on the view was hugging him just months before, saying, you're the greatest guy and you're our good friend. And then all of a sudden, all the knives come out.

Speaker 1 He had to be stunned in that. And then after 2020, he took the time to really analyze and prepare and put the right people around him.
And the one thing that has stunned me, stunned me, is

Speaker 1 I think he's one of the most well-read presidents we have had. And I don't mean book smart stuff.
I mean, you could ask him any question and he knows it down to the very smallest detail.

Speaker 1 I found it, am I misreading him or have you found that to be true? No matter what you ask him about, he knows it to the

Speaker 1 granular level.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you know, Glenn, I'll give you kind of one of the inside stories on the fact that when you fly with him, you know, when you fly with him, he always has a stack of newspapers and

Speaker 7 from the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Financial Times, and he reads through them and he's very, very knowledgeable.

Speaker 7 We were sitting in the Oval during the first terms, and he was talking about, during the first term, and he was talking about the

Speaker 7 aircraft carriers and the new aircraft carriers coming up, the new Ford class, and what the problems were with the Ford class. And he said, yeah,

Speaker 7 and I was saying, where did he get this from? I know. And he got out of Forbes magazine.
And you're absolutely right. A couple of things is when

Speaker 7 the first administration, you're absolutely right, because nobody, there's no book out there, Presidents for Dummies. You learn on the job.
It starts. And I mean, he learned so fast in that job.

Speaker 7 But nobody is really prepared for a presidency. Remember, President Trump, before he came to Washington as a President of the United States, I don't think he spent a n a night in Washington, DC ever.

Speaker 7 So he came here and and kind of came into it, met Obama,

Speaker 7 and frankly, I don't think he was well served by some of the people he brought in early on.

Speaker 1 That's an understatement.

Speaker 7 And so

Speaker 7 he basically,

Speaker 7 you know, look, we were under battle. We were under siege before the inauguration.

Speaker 7 I mean, I was with him on day one, and he was nearly in, you know, they wanted to impeach him before he even became president. So we had to fight those battles.
Okay, fast forward to now. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 When he went down to Mar-a-Lago and he said he's going to run again, he prepared and he put a team around him, a really smart team, and he thought their way through it.

Speaker 7 You know, on day one of the first administration, he signed one executive order. I think on the first day of this administration,

Speaker 7 he signed over, I think it was 47 on day one. He signs them every day.
So we were rocking and rolling, ready to go.

Speaker 7 To say he is... prepared is a classic understatement and the difference between nine and day.
But that is the beauty.

Speaker 7 And you know something, this is one of those, you almost want to sit back and think about it.

Speaker 7 In a way, I'm I'm glad there was a four-year break because it allowed him to really reflect on the first administration, what a second administration would look like, the good, the bad, the right people would have around him.

Speaker 7 And that's the reason why you're seeing him. Do you talk about a man of action? I mean, I said we're in day 59, and heck, it feels like 59 years.
Oh, I know.

Speaker 1 It's amazing. Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg, if you could hold for one minute, I want to ask you about something.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 something that people don't understand on what Trump is doing doing is he is changing the course

Speaker 1 of the last 90 or even 100 years, and he's changing it. And that's what's making everyone uncomfortable.
But if you could comment on that,

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Speaker 1 So, General, I don't

Speaker 1 want to push you into a place where NATO and everything else, but I think that Donald Trump is in every way, he's not a bull in the China shop because there's no thinking to the destruction there.

Speaker 1 He is perceived as a bull in a China shop because no one has had the guts to say, wait a minute, let's zero set everything.

Speaker 1 Well, let's stop doing things because this is the way they've been done for the last 70 years. Let's find out if it's worth doing those things anymore, and that's the best approach.

Speaker 1 Is that what he's doing with this and almost everything else that he's doing with

Speaker 1 global relationships?

Speaker 7 Yeah, Glenn, it is. And here's why.
And again,

Speaker 7 not enough people give him credit for being really, really smart and really, really well-read.

Speaker 7 I mean, and I'm going to back my way into it real quick, because, for example, just a quick example, we were in the Oval Office the other day, and he showed us a picture of somebody, and it was President Harrison.

Speaker 7 And he looked around the room and said,

Speaker 7 what's the story on President Harrison? Do you all know? And most people looked around in the room and said, I don't know.

Speaker 7 And, you know, most people don't realize he was the ninth president, but only lasted for 32 days. And President Trump knew all about the presidents in the room.

Speaker 7 The picture he's had on it looked really great. And the reason why I say that is because he's fully studied everything he's talking about and where he's going to.

Speaker 7 And his instincts, Glenn, are off the charts. I told him that in the first administration.
I said, I used to watch him make decisions, and I said, instinctively, he knows what to do.

Speaker 7 And that is based on his experience. And

Speaker 7 he's totally unafraid to operate off of his instincts. And a lot of people don't do that.
They're afraid of it. They don't know where to go.

Speaker 7 Because when you go off your instincts, you may not be 100%, but you're pretty well in the ballpark. And that's where he goes to.
And I see it in everything he does.

Speaker 7 And I've seen people try to challenge him, and he basically blows him out of the water. I used to tell people, before you open your mouth, make sure you know what you're talking about.

Speaker 7 Because he does.

Speaker 7 And I think he's set up some really, he has a view of America, what he wants America to look like. And I think he's right.
And when you're seeing, he likes,

Speaker 7 he calls them a lot of times 80-20 issues.

Speaker 7 80% of the American American people want that. 20% of the other people don't, but you read about them a lot, much more than the 80%.

Speaker 7 And he's playing with the 80%. That's the reason his popularity is so high right now.
That's the reason why he's able to drive

Speaker 7 these issues going forward. And that's also why he's surrounded himself with people who believe like he does.
The first administration, that didn't happen.

Speaker 7 Some people said, well, we recommended person A, and he picked person A, and it was a wrong fit.

Speaker 7 Everybody he's got going right now the right people because they're all basically with him, got his back, and moving in the same direction.

Speaker 1 And you can absolutely tell, and it is breathtaking to watch. General Keith Kellogg, he is the current U.S.
Special Envoy to Ukraine.

Speaker 1 I wish you guys

Speaker 1 the best of luck on this.

Speaker 1 I really think the president is,

Speaker 1 it's a masterclass to watch him on what he's doing, and hopefully it will all work out. Thank you, General.
I appreciate everything you guys are doing. God bless.
Thanks, Rebecca. You bet.
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Speaker 1 All right, welcome to the program.

Speaker 1 So, as we were talking to General Kellogg,

Speaker 1 which, by the way, he is related to Kellogg, as in the cereal. And I don't know if you know the story of Kellogg.
This is way off the course. I'll set this up some other time.

Speaker 1 But Kellogg, the original Kellogg, crazy. Really? Oh, crazy, crazy, crazy.
He was like, you know, he's kind of crazy. Like, you know what would be good is if you shove cornflakes up your butt.

Speaker 1 Do an animal with corn. I mean, it was like that kind of crazy, you know, real health.
Really? Yeah, oh, he's nuts.

Speaker 3 I was in Battle Creek recently

Speaker 3 at the Kellogg Arena, and they have a picture of all the old serials that they've created.

Speaker 3 Looking at some of the things they tried, that doesn't surprise me that he might have been a little out there.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah,

Speaker 1 he was a little out there. But isn't it interesting that Kellogg's,

Speaker 1 their competition is General Mills, and here he is, General Kellogg. Spy? I'm just saying.
I'm just that's what I'm here for, to connect the dots, Stu. I'm asking you.
No, talk about that right now.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Last night, we did a program on NATO and Ukraine and what happened in Ukraine.

Speaker 1 And it's really so important. I

Speaker 1 gave an episode that you just have to watch. If you really want to know why I'm so passionate about the end of USAID and the

Speaker 1 deep stabbing of the State Department and just clearing out those floors of the people who have been there forever, you'll understand when you see, you know, what's been happening with those organizations, even over the last 20 years.

Speaker 1 And we've been talking about it for a long time.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I don't know if you know the history of NATO, because I was surprised. We started doing our history on NATO and looking at it.

Speaker 1 There's something that jumped out at me, and let's see if it jumps out at you.

Speaker 1 Cut nine, please. I haven't completely given up on NATO, but I really think it's probably the right thing to do.
But let's take this journey together. So that's a critical, radical statement.

Speaker 1 That's nuts. Get out of NATO.

Speaker 1 Well, is it nuts or is it that sometimes furniture becomes such a part of a room that you barely notice its function anymore until somebody messes with it or tries to rearrange the room and you're like, you can't move that there.

Speaker 1 That chair has always been over here.

Speaker 1 Is NATO that chair?

Speaker 1 Has it become such a fixture over the last 75 years that we don't really notice it anymore nobody uses it I mean it's just it's worthless but let me take you back to the chalkboard because I think most Americans don't know much about NATO other than a passing reference to it in their school history books that is if they taught you American history and I want to take you through how we got to this point because the NATO is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization why does it matter does it even still matter

Speaker 1 Here's how it started. Go back to 1948.
Europe is a pile of rubble from World War II. Germany has been divided into four different zones here.
You had the French zone.

Speaker 1 That's where all the lazy people who said, I surrender. They went there.
Then you had the United States, Soviet Union, and Great Britain. So it was carved up.

Speaker 1 And inside the Soviet zone,

Speaker 1 It's also divided into four zones, controlled by each of

Speaker 1 the Allies. The Soviets decide to choke the other allies out of Berlin with a total blockade of the western zones for the city.

Speaker 1 So the U.S. and Britain respond with the Berlin airlift.
It is one of, I think, one of the greatest things we ever did. It was round-the-clock planes dropping supplies over the western half of Berlin.

Speaker 1 That kept 2 million Berliners alive and free.

Speaker 1 The Berlin airlift involves more than 277,000 flights over 15 months, and it sends a clear, defiant message to Moscow, lights the fuse for the Cold War, but says, we're standing.

Speaker 1 April 1949, months before the airlift ended, representatives from 12 European nations plus Canada, because I don't want to leave Canada out.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're cute and everything, but they're kind of like Europe's understudy, you know. They get together in Washington, D.C., and they form the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

Speaker 1 The idea is really simple. We all band together for protection and help stop the spread of Soviet communism across Europe.

Speaker 1 We don't want to sit on our hands as Poland is invaded by another

Speaker 1 Hitler, or in this case, the Soviets. Now, the key to the whole treaty is what's called Article 5.
This says an attack on one NATO member is an attack on all NATO members. It's a pinky swear.

Speaker 1 It's the glue that holds NATO together. No matter if we like France or not, it doesn't matter.
If somebody attacks them, we all go in in together.

Speaker 1 It's what keeps more and more European nations joining NATO over the next 75 years, and it is what makes Ukraine desperate to join. Now, just after that, I go into,

Speaker 1 do you know that NATO has lost a major NATO ally for several decades?

Speaker 1 Did you know that in the 1960s, France said, oh, there's too much winning here for us. It's too strong.
I mean,

Speaker 1 we might win the war if this remains like this. So

Speaker 1 we are out. They got out of NATO in, I think, the 60s all the way to the early 2000s.
I didn't know that. So when Donald Trump says maybe we should re-evaluate NATO,

Speaker 1 why not? Why not? And I'm not saying it's the right thing to do yet. I don't know myself.
I know where I'm leaning, but I'm not solidly there. And so I gave

Speaker 1 four reasons for and against NATO. Here they are.
There are four reasons that the pro-NATO crowd likes to give that says we should be there. First, collective defense enhances U.S.
security. It does.

Speaker 1 They point to NATO's Article 5, the Allied response to the 9-11 attacks. Sure, okay, that is good.
Second, shared infrastructure and pooling military resources.

Speaker 1 Again, they say having access to military bases across Europe extends our reach and helps overall cost-effectiveness. That's true.

Speaker 1 They also point to regular military exercises, enhancing our overall readiness. Okay.

Speaker 1 Third, economic stability and trade. They say NATO secures

Speaker 1 the European economy, which benefits the U.S. business.
Okay, you're getting a little sketchy. Fourth, deterring Russia.
They say the presence of thousands of U.S.

Speaker 1 troops in Europe helps keep Russia from steamrolling its neighbors. But it really hasn't, has it?

Speaker 1 I mean, the only one they steamrolled into and we did anything about it is Ukraine. And I'm not sure it's because about Russia.

Speaker 1 I think this is, there's something else that we're all missing here on this war with Ukraine. All right, now let me give you four reasons against continuing to be part of NATO.

Speaker 1 First, disappropriate or disproportionate spending on Europe's defense. In 2014, NATO members were supposed to increase their defense spending to 2% of GDP.

Speaker 1 As of last year, still only 23 out of the 32 members had reached that target. Why should we carry that load? Honestly, you carry that load or you don't carry the load.

Speaker 1 Second thing, mission of NATO is outdated, okay? It's not that Russia's not a threat, because it is, but it's not a Soviet Union kind of threat. The U.S.
has China now to contend with.

Speaker 1 Our security threats are a lot more global right now. Third, being tied to Article 5.
It made more sense during the Cold War.

Speaker 1 Now listen, if the NATO lovers and Joe Biden and everybody else would have had their way, they would have made Ukraine a NATO member. Now, yes, maybe that would have stopped Russia from going in.

Speaker 1 But that is why Russia said they went in because we were going to make them a NATO member. I don't know which, I don't know, would it make us more safe?

Speaker 1 I just know I wouldn't want to send send my son or daughter over to Europe to fight for Ukraine. That doesn't mean anything bad about the Ukrainian people or anything.
They deserve to be free.

Speaker 1 Russia's the bad guy. But are you going to send your son over for Ukraine?

Speaker 1 Because I can't imagine they would send our kids over here to,

Speaker 1 I don't know, battle the mighty French Canadians coming over. I don't know.
But Article 5. could easily tie up the U.S.
in a conflict that doesn't directly threaten our national security.

Speaker 1 But is that wishful thinking? Because that's what we said in World War I. You see how this plays out? Or sorry, World War II.

Speaker 1 The fourth thing, staying in NATO incentivizes Europe to let us handle their defense.

Speaker 1 I don't want to handle their defense. They are way too dependent.
It's time for Europe to move out of the house and get a job. Now, is this...
Is this an unreasonable thing?

Speaker 3 Was that unreasonable... It's a reasonable conversation to have.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 And do you think I'm being fair on both sides these are the four reasons yeah i mean you could probably detect a little bit which way you're leaving but i'm but i'm not yeah but i'm not giving i'm not giving bogus reasons no these are the arguments being made on both sides exactly right of the agreement so

Speaker 1 uh i i tweet right after the show it's time for america to have a real debate about whether we should leave nato yes collective defense likely enhances our security but why are we paying disproportionate amounts for europe's defense especially when they have admitted they don't share our values such as freedom of speech.

Speaker 1 Jonah Goldberg says, Jonah Goldberg

Speaker 1 says, this is some shameful

Speaker 1 Glenn. Shameful crap.

Speaker 3 Shameful crap. Okay.

Speaker 1 What is?

Speaker 1 Just questioning? Is that, I mean, is that, have you, did you read, he should read a great book. It was called

Speaker 1 Liberal Fascism.

Speaker 3 His book, by the way, if you don't know that.

Speaker 1 Oh, is it? Yeah. Well, it's the guy who, the guy who wrote it was called Jonah Goldberg.
I don't know if that Jonah Goldberg

Speaker 1 has been replaced by a pod person, but

Speaker 1 I just don't understand it. And I like Jonah.
I really have always liked Jonah. Yeah, and I don't think

Speaker 1 happened to him.

Speaker 3 I don't think he's been inconsistent on the point of supporting NATO. I mean, he's...

Speaker 1 Why is it shameful for me?

Speaker 3 That was shameful? I don't know why he, I mean, the tone of that makes no sense to me. I mean, his point of supporting NATO, he's been consistent on as long as I've been aware of him.
Right.

Speaker 1 And he might believe it. And he might be right.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at, I said right at the beginning of the show, look,

Speaker 1 I'm not going to try to convince you one way or another. I'm playing this out in my own head right now, and I don't know where I'm going to end up.

Speaker 1 So let's just explore together. If you want to explore,

Speaker 1 what is NATO? Should we be in it? Let's do that together. That's not shameful.

Speaker 3 No, it's not shameful. There's no reason.

Speaker 1 That's reason.

Speaker 3 No reason to swear

Speaker 3 language, please, boys and girls. I think,

Speaker 3 you know, I mean, look, Jonah certainly gets a harsh treatment by many online and on the right.

Speaker 3 But not you.

Speaker 3 I feel like

Speaker 3 there's an issue here where people just kind of internalize

Speaker 3 this stuff and wind up

Speaker 3 turning their lives into social media responses. And I don't think that's the problem.

Speaker 1 So, speaking of that, here's Ricky.

Speaker 1 She is our

Speaker 1 executive producer

Speaker 1 on television. And she

Speaker 1 said,

Speaker 1 Did you listen to the clip? Four arguments for and four arguments against. It's really not that hot of a take.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I like your dog photos.

Speaker 1 You maybe go back and put the dog photos.

Speaker 1 Rob Eno, all hail Raytheon and unending war and the bankruptcy of America so Europe can put people in jail for freedom of speech. I love you, Rob.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 There's just a lot of people that were going back and forth on this, but I don't understand why we can't have that conversation.

Speaker 3 We should. I mean, because I think there's, look, I can see elements of both sides that make sense on that one.
Sure.

Speaker 3 I mean, and part of me, like, you know, the point, and I think Jonah has made this exact point before

Speaker 3 when it comes to the funding.

Speaker 3 There's an argument to say that we don't necessarily want to encourage Europe to stand on their own defense-wise, because we've seen what's happened in the past when they've built up their military, right?

Speaker 1 Like, I don't necessarily want Germany to be like, hey, let's build up our military. That's why France actually left.
Really? Because we said, Germans, you have to stand up on your own two feet.

Speaker 1 It's time for you to build a military of your own. And the French were like, no, no, that's a really bad idea there's another send them uh popovers

Speaker 3 yeah send them a croissant let's not send them guns yeah you know there's certain people i want my son to stand on his own in life germany

Speaker 1 i'm not so sure

Speaker 1 right

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Speaker 1 all right hello you sick freak welcome to the program i'm glad you're here it is thursday uh i want to talk to you about tesla i want to talk to you about the the judges and the the craziness that's happening with our our judges all across america and what the president's going to do with the doe the department of education it's a really important one and uh

Speaker 1 We went back and we actually read the founding documents of the DOE.

Speaker 1 This is when Congress passed a law to say the Department of Education is a thing now. Well, what did they create? This is going to blow your mind.

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Speaker 1 So the president is going to

Speaker 1 abolish parts of the DOE, but the Department of Education was

Speaker 1 first put in by Jimmy Carter, and then a few years later,

Speaker 1 it was

Speaker 1 set in stone by Congress. So he can't shut it down because Congress established it.

Speaker 1 So only Congress can abolish it. However, he can trim the fat and he's going to cut it by about 50% today, which is a great thing.

Speaker 1 But as Michaela was doing her homework on this,

Speaker 1 she said... One of your producers.
Yeah, one of our producers. She said,

Speaker 1 have you read the Department of Education Organization Act?

Speaker 3 I'm like, oh, obviously.

Speaker 1 Of course, I have, but tell me what you found.

Speaker 1 Listen to this. It is the intention, this is the founding document passed by Congress.

Speaker 1 It is the intention of Congress in the establishment of the Department of Education to protect the rights of state and local governments and public and private educational institutions.

Speaker 1 Now, just that

Speaker 1 are they operating within the law that was set by Congress?

Speaker 3 Because I think you could convince me that that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Right.
That sounds great. Right.
So let me read that again.

Speaker 1 The intention of Congress in the establishment of the Department of Education to protect the rights of state and local governments and public and private educational institutions in the area of educational policies and administration of programs and to strengthen and improve the control of such governments and institutions.

Speaker 1 over their own educational programs and policies.

Speaker 1 You hear the second half of that?

Speaker 1 To strengthen and improve the local and state administration and

Speaker 1 the control

Speaker 1 of their own educational programs and policies. That is not what the DOE is doing.
No. Not even.
Listen to the next line. The establishment of the Department of Education shall not.

Speaker 1 increase the authority of the federal government over education or diminish the responsibility for education which is reserved to the states and the local school systems and other instrumentalities of the states.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait.

Speaker 1 This is not what the Department of Education is at all. So when they say, well, he can't abolish the Department of Ed, no, they abolished the Department of Ed.

Speaker 1 The Department of Ed isn't that.

Speaker 1 You know, because like you just said, I wouldn't have necessarily a problem with that.

Speaker 3 I have some questions, but I wouldn't want it

Speaker 3 as a direction protecting local rights over education is exactly kind of what I want.

Speaker 1 Exactly right.

Speaker 1 B, no provision of a program administered by the secretary or any other officer of the department shall be construed to authorize the secretary or any such officer to exercise any direction, supervision, or control over the local curriculum.

Speaker 1 Any program of instruction or or administration or personnel of any educational institution, school, or school system, over any accrediting agency or association, or over the selection and content of library resources, textbooks, or other instructional materials by any educational institution or school system, except to the extent authorized by this law.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 3 I mean, it seems there's all sorts of limitations on it.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I mean, if you just go back to this,

Speaker 1 if he just reset it to this, do you know how many problems would go away?

Speaker 3 I know. This is really common, too.

Speaker 3 We've mentioned the same thing with the Patriot Act. Like the guy who wrote the Patriot Act, there's a bunch of these things going on.
They're like, I can't believe the Patriot Act would do this.

Speaker 3 And he's like, I wrote it. It's not supposed to do that.

Speaker 1 Like, that's not what it's not what it's supposed to do at all.

Speaker 3 It always grows. It always grows.
It always evades that initial,

Speaker 3 you know, the limiting principles put on it by the law itself.

Speaker 1 Which is amazing. When you know that to be true, and our founders knew that, it's amazing how long our Constitution and Bill of Rights has lasted.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, the average Constitution's age in the history of the world, the average age of death of a Constitution is 17 years.

Speaker 1 We're coming up to 250

Speaker 1 of our Declaration of Independence.

Speaker 1 17 years.

Speaker 1 That's the average. We are so far out.
For it to have lasted this long, knowing that this is what it always happens. They always morph and distort and erase the original founding ideas.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That's impressive. And we're still standing.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And again, giant chunks of it are still standing. As we've pointed out many times, a lot of it isn't standing

Speaker 3 other than it's just on paper. But that's the problem, right? We should be back to it and should be trying to focus our country on following it again a little bit more closely.

Speaker 3 But I am glad that it still stands. Me too.
It's just us and is it San Marino? There's one other weird country that has a very old constitution.

Speaker 1 It's an old like Chevy?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's the Chevy San Marino.

Speaker 1 It's a beautiful car. Yeah, beautiful.
V8. Yeah, it's great.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Here's the other thing that we need to talk about, and that is these judges.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get into Tesla on this in a second, and that's equally as important, but let me talk again about the justices and the judges on what is happening.

Speaker 1 The judge has ordered to restore USAID worker access and forbids the shutdown because it's likely against the Constitution. Well, that's not your job.

Speaker 1 The Obama-appointed judge trying to stop USAID shutdown donated thousands of dollars to the Democrats. The judge who blocked the key executive order has a long progressive activism history.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 we're having these judges get involved in everything. So

Speaker 1 what are judges supposed to do? What does the Constitution actually say?

Speaker 1 I want to take you to

Speaker 1 a football field.

Speaker 1 Glenn, don't do it. You're getting dicey.
Don't go into sports now. Let's just take you out to a football field for your first second.
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 3 Prepare yourself. Grid your loins.

Speaker 1 Is that like the grid loins? Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 let's say the ref is out on, and he decides that that touchdown is worth 10 points.

Speaker 1 The clock should be kept running because I think so. It's most likely that it should be running right now.

Speaker 1 That is what's happening in our court system. That's judicial or referee activism.
All right. They're just making stuff up.

Speaker 1 Judges that are stepping beyond their lane and making up the rules instead of just calling the game as written. That's what judges are supposed to do.

Speaker 1 They're supposed to look at things as written and then say, no, sorry, guys. That's the law.

Speaker 1 Not, you know what? You know what we should do? I should also be able to eat any kind of candy that I want. And

Speaker 1 you're a defendant. You need to bring me candy.

Speaker 1 Because that's that's what I want right now. Okay.
I'm fat. I've been sitting behind the bench for a long time.
You can't even notice my fatness. I am the size of the bench.
Just my upper torso's not.

Speaker 1 Okay. You can't do that.
You don't do that. Now, it's important to realize judges aren't necessarily bad guys.
They have a really, really tough job. And I don't like.

Speaker 1 You know, I really feel bad when you're like,

Speaker 1 well, that's just a bad ruling.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe, but I wasn't wasn't in the courtroom how many times have we done a story where we really want to bash the judge but you weren't in the courtroom you don't know what was said or what they know you talked about that when you did jury duty yeah I remember because I think from an outsider perspective you can always come to something but when you're there watching it every single day and yeah you know it's different sometimes it's different so When they start acting like lawmakers instead of interpreters of that law, then we have a problem.

Speaker 1 Like a judge should step in now on the Department of Education and say, sorry, gang, I read this section last night. That's not what's going on here.
So the president,

Speaker 1 yeah, I recommend I shouldn't, but if it comes into my courtroom, I'm going to show, yeah, well, that's the law, not my opinion. I might love the department.
I might be a full-fledged communist.

Speaker 1 But I'm here to uphold the law. And that's what Congress said it is.
And that's not what it is.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 sometimes there are problems that Congress needs to step in and say, you're out of here.

Speaker 1 Sometimes the judges, and it has happened in our history, and it's a very high bar, but I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 I mean, it should be a high bar like it is with impeachment of the president, but it shouldn't be off the table. Okay.
And here's why. If you go back to the founding fathers,

Speaker 1 they thought this through. It's kind of crazy.
It's not like, hey, we're going to to do a new constitution in Iceland. Tweet us your ideas.

Speaker 1 In Federalist 78, Alexander Hamilton says judges should not have life tenure.

Speaker 1 And if they do,

Speaker 1 only if they're on good behavior. Well, what does that mean?

Speaker 1 Well, he saw judges as the least dangerous branch because it doesn't have, it doesn't control the purse strings and it doesn't have an army. Okay, so he's like, you know,

Speaker 1 I mean, if they're on good behavior, just let them go. Just let them go.
But he also knew that judges weren't perfect. They do go rogue.
So

Speaker 1 he knew that they would twist the Constitution and what they were doing

Speaker 1 into something that it's not. And that good behavior clause is not just for decoration.

Speaker 1 It's the lifeline of the people to stop the judges that have gone bad. Then in Federalist 81, Hamilton doubles down on this.
Judges can be impeached if they abuse their power.

Speaker 1 How do they abuse their power? They step out of line of interpreting the law and start writing laws. And he's very clear, Congress has the muscle to check them.

Speaker 1 You know, it's like giving the principal the power to fire a teacher who's, you know, teaching kids the alphabet, you know, backwards and mixed up. No, you know, I appreciate it.
We're not doing that.

Speaker 1 Okay. We hired you to teach the alphabet.

Speaker 1 So has this ever been done? Has this ever been exercised? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I talked to a federal judge last night about this and he's like, Glenn, luster versus Georgia. And I'm like, oh, man, that was one of my favorite rulings.

Speaker 1 But I want to ask you to see how much you know about luster versus Georgia. It's back in 1832, Supreme Court told Georgia they have to stop messing with the Cherokee Nation land.

Speaker 1 And I think they also said, you can't go in and teach the Cherokee tribes

Speaker 1 Christianity. Okay.

Speaker 1 Georgia said, nah, we're going to do that anyway. Okay.

Speaker 1 Now, I am not a fan of the way the Native Americans were treated in history, and I'm not a fan of Andrew Jackson, but he wasn't a fan of the court. And he supposedly said,

Speaker 1 Great, the judge has made his decision.

Speaker 1 Now let him figure out how to enforce it.

Speaker 1 Now, I don't like that. I don't like that.
But that's what Federalist 81 was saying. They don't have purse strings.
They don't have an army. They have an opinion.

Speaker 1 But if the other two branches are like, nah, we're going to do it anyway.

Speaker 1 Again, I don't like that, but that's only,

Speaker 1 that can only apply to when the judges step out of their lane.

Speaker 1 When you're an activist judge, go ahead, you call your army.

Speaker 1 But when they're in their lane and they're saying, no, this is the law, this is how it's written, then you don't say, nah, you go ahead and try to enforce that, because then it's a breakdown.

Speaker 1 But it's just as much of a breakdown if they legislate from the bench and we do nothing about it.

Speaker 1 The court doesn't have any tanks, doesn't have any cops. It relies on the other two branches.
It's why that one's the weakest. It has no enforcement.
It was never given any enforcement.

Speaker 1 The founders didn't want it to have any enforcement. Congress has the checkbook.
The president has the tanks.

Speaker 1 The justices have their robes.

Speaker 1 So they lose. They're the weakest of them.
Now, they're supposed to be able to check each other.

Speaker 1 So you're out of respect for what each arm is supposed to do, we do listen to the Supreme Court, but wait until you hear what else is in the Constitution that I just, I bypassed. I didn't even know.

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Speaker 1 Okay, so Jackson, when he says, go ahead, let them enforce it, that shows the limits of their power, but it also hints at the flip side.

Speaker 1 When judges overreach, they can stir up chaos, you know, if no one's willing to listen. So here's where Article 3 of the Constitution comes in.

Speaker 1 And remember, Constitution, the rule book.

Speaker 1 The rule book for the courts. It sets up the Supreme Court, but it also gives Congress the power to create or even shut down the lower federal courts.
They have no power over the Supreme Court.

Speaker 1 They cannot shut it down. They cannot affect it.
But Congress can pass a law that says, you guys are done. So don't tell me that you can't impeach them.

Speaker 1 It's in the Constitution that that is, and the Federalist Papers, that is critical in case they start overstepping the bounds. You can impeach them and we should.
This is all a ploy.

Speaker 1 This is no different than the quite honestly the terrorism that is happening on our streets with Tesla okay that's terrorism this isn't terrorism this is just a whole buttload of lies told by a bunch of people we're supposedly you know able to trust because they wear a robe don't trust them don't try why would you trust the justices when you don't trust the politicians when you don't trust anybody in Washington why are these guys exempt okay i'm not saying i don't don't want to sow seeds of discord with our, I believe in the Supreme Court.

Speaker 1 It's the best system that we have, but let's not, let's not throw our Constitution out for these guys who are sitting in the lower federal courts. You know,

Speaker 1 Congress can say, hey, we don't need this court anymore. You're banned or.
You're banned from ruling on that. Sorry.

Speaker 1 You're not talking about that anymore. It's a leash and it's there for a reason.

Speaker 1 The Supreme Court is untouchable, and it's, you know, it's not above impeachment if the justices start playing king instead of judge.

Speaker 1 But their job is like a gardener. Their job is to keep trimming the hedges, keep the law neat and tidy.

Speaker 1 But if they start ripping out the whole garden and planting it with whatever they want, someone's got to fire them.

Speaker 1 And that is where we are with these lower federal court justices.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're here.
We're glad that you're here. There's a couple things I want to talk about.
First of all, all, all these people that are cheering for the demise of Tesla.

Speaker 1 This is one of the worst things that, I mean,

Speaker 1 this should just tell you again who the people are on the left, who you're actually fighting. This is legitimate terrorism.

Speaker 1 Terrorism.

Speaker 1 The idea of how you define terrorism is somebody that is trying to force people to see things their way or move

Speaker 1 and change actions in a political way

Speaker 1 because of fear that they or someone they love might be harmed.

Speaker 1 That's what terrorism is. Okay.

Speaker 1 So what's happening right now? Tesla owners are being doxxed. Molotov cocktails are being thrown.
You have people spray painting cars. What does that do?

Speaker 1 What that does, for some, it makes, I mean, Stu and I were talking about it, it's kind of like, I want to buy it, I want to buy a Tesla.

Speaker 1 I want to buy a Tesla because I'm like, oh, you're not scaring me, dude. You're not scaring me.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you want to have that.

Speaker 3 Because I was thinking about this the other day and had a moment of thought of like, gosh, if I were to get a new Tesla, the odds of it getting keyed in a parking lot, even in Texas, are moderate.

Speaker 3 And if you were in a blue state, even higher. And that instinct was immediately overwhelmed with, ah, screw these people.

Speaker 3 Like, I, I just, you want to do it just to put it in their face, right?

Speaker 1 And because, look who these people are. Just an amazing quickly, Glenn, before you get onto that,

Speaker 3 they we have come to a place where to put it in liberals' faces, I want to buy an electric vehicle. That's how screwed up our society is right now.

Speaker 1 Sorry, so crazy. Okay, so let me show you something.
This is Rick Wilson from Substack.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 look at this: kill Tesla, save the country.

Speaker 1 Huh. Elon has a weak spot, attack.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That is promoting terrorism.

Speaker 1 Now, who is this guy? Well, let me give you a flashback. Here's a little bit of audio from him in 2015.
Listen to this.

Speaker 8 And the donor class can't just sit back on the sidelines and say, oh, well, don't worry, this will all work itself out.

Speaker 1 They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump.

Speaker 8 And that's a fact.

Speaker 1 Oh, and they tried. They tried.

Speaker 1 He's a political strategist from the left.

Speaker 1 You know, you might say, well, he didn't mean a literal bullet. Okay, okay, maybe he didn't.
Except that's what they tried to do.

Speaker 1 And let's just take it then on the first one. The first one.
He's showing a picture of a Tesla burning.

Speaker 1 And he's saying, Elon has a weak spot. Kill Tesla.
Attack.

Speaker 1 That is, again, terrorism.

Speaker 1 That's what it looks like, gang. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 So now these facilities all across the country, Las Vegas, Buffalo Grove, San Diego, vandalized, torched, set on fire, defaced with anti-Elon Musk messages. That's crazy because you're on the left.

Speaker 1 He was your hero about 10 minutes ago. So Pam Bondi comes out and she says these attacks are domestic terrorism.
And damn right, Pam. Damn right.
I am so glad to hear you say this.

Speaker 1 This is not about the broken windows or the spray paint or the burned cars. This is honestly about an evil that has crept into our society.
Look what happened.

Speaker 1 The left cheered when someone gunned down a good guy.

Speaker 1 at an insurance company in the middle of the street because yeah, those insurance companies are bad. That's terrorism.

Speaker 1 Look what's happening with the doxing. That's terrorism.
This is an evil that has crept into our society that

Speaker 1 has rejected all of the values that actually made America America. It's a direct assault on the principles that have held us together.
And Americans need to understand what is at stake here.

Speaker 1 Let me go back in history for just a minute. Let me show you how this has worked out oh, so very well in the past.
The early 1800s.

Speaker 1 what do you know about the luddites you know anything about the luddites when you think when i say you're a luddite what does that mean resistant to technological advance isn't that a nice way to put that you know what a luddite was

Speaker 1 a terrorist they were terrorists

Speaker 1 They smashed machinery. They set things on fire because they were terrified that the Industrial Revolution would destroy America's way of life.

Speaker 1 And so they took it upon themselves to destroy property, machines, and everything else. That's not somebody who's resistant to technology.

Speaker 1 That's a terrorist. Okay, 1970s.
What do you know about the weather underground?

Speaker 1 These are the people that have been washed clean by the left, that are now like Bill Ayers. They're part of this system.
What did they do? They bombed government buildings.

Speaker 1 You think the worst attack on our democracy was January 6th. I remind you, look up the weather underground and the bombing of the capital, the senate

Speaker 1 in the 1970s.

Speaker 1 They were targeting symbols of this system that they hated and they were trying to cause fear.

Speaker 1 Ted Kaczynski. What do you know about Ted Kaczynski?

Speaker 3 Resistant to technological advance.

Speaker 1 Yes. And

Speaker 3 a unit bomber. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was a terrorist. He mailed bombs to anyone he thought was advancing technology too far.

Speaker 1 So he caused people who were in the industry to be afraid,

Speaker 1 hoping that they would say, I'm not going to do that anymore. So all of these, what do they have in common? Fear of progress.
a refusal to adapt and a willingness to destroy rather than build.

Speaker 1 Those three things, everybody's focused on the terrorist thing, but let me state the three things that this story is actually about one more time.

Speaker 1 A fear of progress,

Speaker 1 a refusal to adapt, and a willingness to destroy rather than build.

Speaker 1 That's what the left is. That's what's happening with Tesla today.

Speaker 1 Elon Musk, you can love him, you can hate him. What does he represent? Progress, the future, innovation, a vision of a future that you should love on the left, sustainable.

Speaker 1 He's ambitious. He's an entrepreneur.
He's a guy that climbs mountains that everybody said were impossible.

Speaker 1 He's the guy who just said, after your beloved president, who, you know, had pudding maybe in his head

Speaker 1 left the astronauts in space. He's the guy who said, just give me permission.
I'll go up and do it. I'll save him.
And did.

Speaker 1 How can you possibly hate that guy? How? I mean, it's weird because on the left, or I'm sorry, on the right, we're all, at least I think, we've all been a little skeptical of him.

Speaker 1 I'm still a little skeptical of him. I love what he's doing right now.
I think he's... a genius.

Speaker 1 I think he could be the answer to making sure that we all don't die from the singularity, but he's also one of the guys bringing the singularity to

Speaker 1 the fore, which

Speaker 1 I appreciate what he's doing here. I really do.
But I don't know. The guy could turn out in 10 years, we could go, hey, Elon, what is he saying over there?

Speaker 1 Yes, and what I want you to do is put this chip in your forehead. Okay, well, he's the Antichrist.
Could be. I don't think he is, but could be.
That's

Speaker 1 we are saying things like that.

Speaker 1 And we're still going, yeah, but you know what? He, this is a year ago. He's no friend to

Speaker 1 the conservative movement. He's for all the global warming stuff.
But isn't that guy amazing? Look at what he's building. He's building it to stop global warming, which I don't believe in.

Speaker 1 But I'm amazed at what he's doing and I cheer him on.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 You are afraid of any kind of innovation.

Speaker 1 Now, what kind of innovation? Any innovation that isn't innovating in the ways you demand. And notice the ways they demand continue to fail because they're not builders.
They know how to destroy.

Speaker 1 They don't know how to build.

Speaker 1 And so, and then they say, it's got to be this way. Follow the science.
Really? Follow the science? That's you? Hmm. Doesn't seem like it.

Speaker 1 Seems like you're more like force the science and force it into our little box that we want.

Speaker 1 The vandals are not just attacking his company. They're attacking the idea of progress.
Interesting for progressive, isn't it?

Speaker 1 They're attacking progress, the progress, not of the cars, the progress of somebody in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 1 doing the things that you have always said. There's so much waste.
We're wasting so much money. We got to stop stop these endless wars.
We agree with you.

Speaker 1 What happened? Where'd you go? Where did you go?

Speaker 1 It doesn't align with the progress your leaders, because I think most people now are useful idiots. Your leaders, you refuse to see that your leadership is so corrupt and visionless.

Speaker 1 And so those leaders are telling their little street warriors, set things on fire.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you're expected, just because you don't agree with Donald Trump, you're expected to go along with it. Don't, don't.

Speaker 1 The ethics of what is happening right now, there is moral rot at the core of all of it. There's a loss of values that if you ignore, we will perish.

Speaker 1 We used to all value the rule of law, the idea that you don't get to take justice into your own hands. The Constitution, our Constitution, your Constitution protects that on all sides.

Speaker 1 The Bill of Rights isn't just for me, it's for you too. And we might disagree on everything.

Speaker 1 But as long as we have that one thing in common, we can live with each other.

Speaker 1 The Fifth Amendment guarantees that no one can be deprived of property without due process.

Speaker 1 The First Amendment gives you the right to speak freely, to protest, but it doesn't give you the right to destroy.

Speaker 1 When you destroy a Tesla vehicle, when you spray paint resist on a factory wall, you're not just breaking the law, you're rejecting the ethical foundation of a free society.

Speaker 1 You're saying that your anger,

Speaker 1 your ideology, is more important than anybody else's rights. That's not freedom, my friend.
That makes you a tyrant. That makes you a fascist.

Speaker 1 And where are the values that you used to hold so dear? There was a time that we respected the dignity of work, the ingenuity of the individual.

Speaker 1 Musk, for all of his flaws, is a man who's building something. Amazing things.
Electric cars, space travel, a vision for the future.

Speaker 1 That used to mean something in America. We celebrated, we shouldn't have, but we celebrated the Edisons.
Notice, isn't it interesting?

Speaker 1 That we tore down, because of the power structure which Edison controlled at the time, we destroyed the real talent of the time, Nikolai Tesla. And here we are again.

Speaker 1 Because of the power structure of the left, the progressives, they are destroying this Nikolai Tesla as well.

Speaker 1 We have lost the value of creation, and we have replaced it with a cheap thrill of destruction.

Speaker 1 You know, real progress comes from really hard work

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 well-fought arguments and

Speaker 1 critical thinking and questioning and asking the questions that nobody wants you to ask, but you in America have a right to ask them.

Speaker 1 It doesn't come from Molotov cocktails.

Speaker 1 And in that loss,

Speaker 1 we're losing ourselves.

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Speaker 3 Glenn, it's time to play fun with domestic terrorism. Wait, that doesn't

Speaker 1 America's favorite game show. It doesn't sound like it.
It is.

Speaker 3 Okay, the term domestic terrorism

Speaker 3 has to hit these standards. Are you ready for it?

Speaker 1 Got it. Okay.

Speaker 3 Yes. It has to involve acts dangerous to human life that are in violation of the criminal laws of the United States.

Speaker 3 It needs to appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping.

Speaker 3 Okay. So I think quite clearly the second part of that standard is absolutely clicked or checked off here.

Speaker 1 All of that. All of that.
All of that, right? Yeah, all of that.

Speaker 3 The first part, though, you could make an argument because what we're seeing mostly are cars burning in parking lots,

Speaker 3 empty buildings being

Speaker 1 suffering.

Speaker 3 You don't know. And I think there's an argument to be made there.
Fire, unpredictable thing, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're firebombing a bunch of cars that are sitting there. You honestly don't know if somebody is in the car.
Likely not, but you don't know if somebody dies in that. You are a murderer.

Speaker 1 If somebody's in the building and they're trapped in a fire, you are a murderer.

Speaker 3 So there's a risk there. Yeah, it's a real risk.
However, I'd add on, from what I understand,

Speaker 3 stopping global warming is the only thing that's going to save lives.

Speaker 3 So if you burn a Tesla, you're adding pollution to the atmosphere and taking an electric vehicle off the road, therefore contributing to the murder of so many in this country.

Speaker 1 Gosh, Stu, think of the death, think of the prison sentences.

Speaker 1 This is Glenn Beck.