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I like getting mushy and teary-eyed, and I can't figure out what it is, but I propose a theory. I don't know if anybody else feels this way, but it's the return of the authentic American spirit, perhaps.
I can't wait for you to hear this. Also, Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg, he is the guy who's doing all the, you know, in between with Ukraine.
He talks about the phone call with Donald Trump with Ukraine, his strategy, et cetera, et cetera. And President Trump can actually slash the DOE, the Department of Education.
He says, we got we got to get you know we're going to cut it down but congress has to does congress have to and i only say that because one of our weirdo um you know researchers who you know apparently does not have a life uh went through all of the founding documents of the department of. What she found is incredible.
Read the founding documents from Congress on the Department of Education and tell me that's what the DOE actually is. All this and more on today's podcast.
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ReliefFactor.com. You're listening to the best of the Glenn back program i saw something last night i couldn't sleep again and i uh so i got up and it's the middle of night it's i don't know one two o'clock in the morning and uh i go out and i just start working on some stuff and then i find myself on instagram and i'm trapped in that hole for a second.
But I stumbled across something from Britain's Got Talent, the Simon Cowell show. And I always love these things where somebody is just amazing.
But I found myself on the couch last night, you know, one o'clock in the morning, all by myself, crying like a little girl. I mean, I, I, and I'm like, what is happening to me? Now I usually cry, but I've noticed in the last four or five years, and I haven't talked about this, but I, I kind of felt like, gee, you're getting really dead inside Glenn, because things weren't moving me emotionally.
And that's weird for me. Um, and you know, it's not like I was complaining.
I don't like it when I'm tearing up on it. You know, like, let me tell you what.
And the cornflakes were gone. I don't.
OK, that's not exactly a manly thing, you know, that I love. But let me play a clip of this, because I think this is what's happening to me, and maybe it's happening to others.

I don't know.

Listen to this clip.

What's your name, please?

My name is John.

I'm 41.

I'm originally from Wales, but now living in Essex.

Could I look you in the eye?

You're just like an major John I think we should start this again Please don't forget.

Oh, I'm joking! She's not, not, not, not But I'm a creep I'm a widow What the hell am I doing here?

I don't belong here.

Yes, you do!

I mean, I'm soupy again. I like i'm what is happening to me and i'm i'm watching that and i don't know maybe it's maybe it's the little guy i'm having a hard time holding together this is so weird Maybe it's the little guy that is making it, the guy who really thinks, I'm alone, I'm a creep, I don't belong.
And yet they do, but they don't know it? Maybe it's because the other day when they had the splashdown, can you play the splashdown of the astronauts?

And we're going to stand by for splashdown located in the Gulf of America off the coast of Tallahassee, Florida.

And splashdown, crew nine nine back on earth okay again it's splash i've seen this a million times and all of a sudden my eyes well up again and i'm like what is happening to me i don't know if this is it could just me. I might be doing a monologue for one.
But in thinking over the last few years, my gosh, I'm getting so hard inside. And where nothing was really moving me to now for some unknown reason.
I don't know. Maybe I'm dying.
I have no idea. Oh, geez.
Maybe I'm transitioning into a sappy little girl. I don't know, but I think maybe I had given up on, it wasn't, I wasn't seeing examples of the little guy winning.
I wasn't seeing examples of heroic feats.

I was seeing politics and politicians and things that I just knew were lies. Nobody paying a price and nobody reaching out and going, I'm going there.
and now we we're in this season where all of that, which I think is truly American, is coming back, is alive again, where the little guy can win, the little guy, they do care about him. You know, the president just abandoned these astronauts in space because he didn't want it to look bad for him.
I mean, one of the American principles, something that is in all of us, is we don't leave anyone behind. And we did.
I mean, everything felt too tough tough and no one could get anything done and and then we had the change in the presidency and now all has to be done is elon musk a guy who they're trying to destroy right now elon musk said i can go up and get them i mean think of that. Who on the planet can say, I can do that.
I'll go get them. And he does.
And it's successful. And it's heroic.
And the astronauts, they didn't badmouth anybody. They shared, you know, no matter what happens to us.
It's going to be fine. It's going to be great.
Just that heroic stance of, praise God, even if I burn up in the atmosphere. Wow.
I don't know if anybody else is feeling this, but maybe this is a really good sign that things are becoming real again. And we're seeing in an age where AI is growing at leaps and bounds, that we're seeing that inner strength.
We're seeing that one thing that makes us human. You can't do that.
Oh, yes, I can. And I'm going to.
Because I got this way on another story that I really have no reason to care about. Let me tell you this story.
I read this today. It's in our show prep.
It's a story in a place that is just as deadly as space. You know, the line is in space, no one can hear you scream.
Well, the same thing here, except it's on Earth. And there is no Elon Musk to do a rescue.
And it is a desolate, windswept, barren land where the sun hasn't set in months. But now it's entering a time where it won't rise for months, so it will be completely dark, a little colder.
Thermometer on a good day right now is 13 degrees below zero, and that's without the wind chill, and the wind blows all the time. The ice stretches out in every direction.
It's endless. It's unyielding.

It is a frozen prison. It is just like the bottom of the sea.

Space on Earth.

Except we call it the South Pole.

And right now, there are nine members of the South African National Antarctic Program.

They're fighting for their lives at the Sane 4 base. And it's not that they've been abandoned by anybody.
There's just no resource their government has to rescue them. They are, I think this isn't a story of researchers, because these researchers are down there for global warming and everything else.
And, you know, the story I read had stuff in it i don't think it's about the research that they're doing that's why they're so heroic because they're no i think what's amazing about this story is they're finding out who they really are and let me set the scene for you there is dr luana a guy he's a dermatologist and a physiologist i don't know what he has to do with global warming i don't want to get sidetracked then you have eight other people engineers meteorologists etc etc and they arrived at this base in december 2023 and they were supposed to be relieved in february but the replacements never came because the ship that was supposed to bring the new team got stuck in cape town because it had mechanical issues and now these nine are stranded and they're facing a 13 month winter in one of the most hostile places on earth they're at a a base camp that's perched on this rocky outcrop uh and it's surrounded by glacial ice. I mean, they're not sitting inside with hot cocoa and blankets and going skiing.
They are trying to survive this place where the wind, on average, is like 60 miles an hour. And the ice, they just face this.
The ice can swallow you whole. They were just facing something something i don't remember what it was called it's in the story but they're facing something where the ice can start to contract and start to come in and they thought the entire station that was built in the 70s was going to be swallowed up and crushed by the ice what do we do do we get crushed inside or we wait outside with no help coming and just freeze to death what do you do the closest help is 2500 miles away that's the distance between new york and los angeles but there's no highways there's no little cute little hotel and a cafe or gas station along the way there's nothing but ice an ice-filled ocean storms that sink ships all the time the ship that was supposed to pick them up that's their lifeline under repair and even if it would set sail today it will take weeks if not months to reach And in the meantime, they're on their own.
Dwindling supplies, the Antarctic winter closing in. And it's not like people in South Africa have forgotten about.
This team is a source of national pride. This base, I think they've been at this base off and on since the 1960s.
And it's their commitment to global cooperation. So it's a big deal to them.
And it's a cluster of buildings that are up above the ice, so it's just not buried by snow all the time. Inside, right now, the lights are flickering on and off.
The generator struggles against the cold. This is normal.
The team is huddled together, rationing their food, their fuel. They're trying to keep morale up, but it's hard.
They're checking weather reports, knowing full well that a storm will cut them off from any hope of rescue for weeks. The others, the engineers, the scientists, the mechanic, working around the clock just to keep everything running.
Remember, they have had no replenishment of supplies. The equipment is old.
The conditions are brutal. They're running out of time.
And they've already faced, I mean, they were surrounded by the ice. And they thought they were going to get crushed.
They've been cut off from communication for days and weeks because the satellite fails in the storms. The psychological toll, especially when you're going into never-ending darkness.
I don't know. So why am I telling you this story? Because I think this is another example of things that will move us as we watch these people this is this is not about nine people in a far-off place this is about the human spirit it's about what we're capable of when all of the odds are stacked against us These nine South Africans, they're a microcosm of humanity.

They are just all fighting to survive, to contribute, to make a difference. If they fail, we lose more than just data on global warming.
We lose a story of resilience. We lose a story that could inspire us and our kids for generations.
You know, help 2,500 miles away across the Southern Ocean. One of the most treacherous bodies of water on Earth all around them.
There's no airstrip. You can't land a plane there.
These nine are on their own.

And every day that they hold out and they have their morale up is a testament to the human spirit, to their grit, their faith, their determination.

I wanted you to know this story today because I don't know who you are, what you're going through,

but strangely, I always feel like we're friends somehow.

And I don't know what you're going through, but I know there are people right now facing

problems and they think there is no way out.

But if you just hold on and you do the next right thing, you will prove to yourself

Thank you. but if you just hold on and you do the next right thing, you will prove to yourself that you have the same spirit the explorers have inside of them.
It lives in all of us. It's already there, but it only shows itself when you or I activate it, when we refuse to give up.
That's the human spirit that just never ends. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Glenn. General Keith Kellogg, the current U.S.
Special Envoy to Ukraine, appointed by President Trump. He is retired Lieutenant General with a distinguished military career.
He has served as the national security advisor for former Vice President Mike Pence, chief of staff and executive secretary for the National Security Council during Trump's first term. Extensive experience in national security and Ukraine-Russia policy make him now the key diplomat during this pivotal time for Ukraine, General Kellogg.
Welcome. Thanks for joining me.
Hey, Glenn. Thanks for having me on.
It's good to be with you. Thank you.
I want to talk to you because I know we're in the middle of negotiations and there's some things that you just can't say, but let's talk about the things that you're comfortable in sharing. We're in the middle of this ceasefire now.
Ukraine agreed to a 30-day ceasefire. Can you talk a little bit about how we got there? I mean, Biden, it didn't even seem like they were attempting to do that.
We just kept doubling down on things that were making it worse. What's difference in trump's approach uh and uh and what biden was doing and what was that leading us into and and what is this hopefully leading us to what's the difference oh you know glenn what a what a great question look this goes back to when president biden in a press conference said a minimal incursion of Ukraine by the Russians may be OK.
Well, he didn't understand that a minimal incursion by Putin is significantly different in his interpretation and my interpretation and Putin's interpretation. And then what happened is that Biden didn't even pick up the phone, didn't even talk to Putin in over three years, kind of just said, I'm not going to talk to the guy.
And then he made the comment, as long as it takes, whatever it takes, we're going to support Ukraine. Well, Glenn, that's not a strategy.
It's a bumper sticker. So you basically had a proxy war going on, and the president of our United States refused to even address one of the protagonists in the war, the protagonists in the war.
The difference between President Trump and President Biden is night and day. President Trump believes quite deeply, and he's absolutely right in this, the war wouldn't have started if he was president.
He believes in personal discussions, personal negotiations, and that's the reason I knew that this was going to succeed when he wanted to end this war, because he was going to pick up the phone and call Putin, which he did. He was going to call Zelensky, which he did.
He was going to call everybody from Xi to Kim Jong-un, whoever it is. He's always had ability to do it because he believes if you don't talk to your adversaries or your allies or your friends, then you've got a major issue happening because nobody really understands where you're coming from.
So President Trump said he's going to end this war. He has now established himself as basically the interlocutor between both Russia and Ukraine.
And it's been day 58. And we're already talking to him.
We're already at a partial ceasefire. We want to get to a comprehensive ceasefire.
That's always been the plan. And then after a comprehensive ceasefire, you go to a full peace discussion or peace treaty, whatever you want to call it.
And I think I was on a television network, I was on Fox network, and made the comment that I think it could happen within the first 100 days. I still believe that.
So you have a chance to have the longest war in Europe since World War II with hundreds of thousands of casualties on both sides and in a relatively near term. And it's all because of one person.
It's because the guy who knows how to make deals, the guy who wrote the art of the deal, Donald J. Trump, and he's going to bring it that way.
And he put a great team together. He's got Steve Whitcoff, an incredibly talented individual, running the Russia lane, and I'm running the Ukraine lane.
And he's got a great team behind him with Secretary Rubio or Pete Hegsatz or Mike Walz. You know, you name it.
It's just a great team. And we're all pushing hard.
We're on Trump time, Glenn. And you know and i both know trump time is much different

than anybody else's oh yeah i know um let me ask you because i had family members call me about this i i have so many people that i know that don't necessarily agree with me when that argument was zelensky and trump happened in the oval uh everybody said my gosh he's going to get us into World War And I said, he's negotiating. Read the art of the deal.
First of all, that's kind of the stuff that Zelensky does. He tries to try it in the in the court of public opinion.
And Trump's just not intimidated by that. But he had to be tough on them, not as a way to say, I'm going to give favors to russia but he had to get them to the table and then go to russia and now he's tough on russia and you don't hear anybody saying oh well he's being so kind to ukraine he's a master negotiator tell me about that moment in the in the oval if you can yeah let me give you a little bit of background on that, because what happened is that morning we met with President Zelensky at the Hay Adams Hotel right across from the White House, and we said to him, look, we kind of stage managed.
This is what you want to do. You want to come in and talk to the president.
He'll bring the press in. You want to thank you to the American people for giving $176 million of taxpayer money to support you.
And then when you're going to have a lunch and then you have a press conference and you exit stage left and it's all good. Well, he came in, he didn't listen to what we told him to do.
And he came in and he started to lecture the president. And we told him before, you are dealing with a different person.
This gentleman is not Joe Biden, okay? And the president let him go. And I was standing right behind the vice president, right behind Secretary Rubio.
And I was one of those, you know, wanted to reach over and say, you clearly didn't listen to what we said. The president let him go.
And then when he said, you need to kind of pick a side, I knew that was the end state. And basically, eternity just blanks.
He blew up everything. And the president wasn't going to budge.
And I think that is the first time that President Zelensky found out that he was going to try to play to the American people through the American press who were in the Oval Office. And he was dealing with a guy who knew the press better than he did.
And as the president said publicly afterwards, heck, that was even better than one of the Apprentice shows. And it really was.
And we said to him, we hold the ace. And the president said, we hold all the cars.
We said, fine, we're not going to give you no more aid. Cut it off.
Okay, that was basically hitting him upside the head with a two by four. And do you realize what you've just done? And they went to the Roosevelt room, and then they wanted to come back in.
The president said, nope, thank you very much, but you're done. And we escorted them out of the White House.
That's never been done. But that kind of got their attention.
And so what happened is, intervening a couple of weeks, everybody kind of, not everybody, but the Ukrainians kind of understood what had happened. And it generated a call, obviously, between President Putin two days ago and then President Zelensky yesterday.
And the call could not have gone better. It was a great call.
And there was a lot of great discussion. It went for well over an hour.
Which one? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Is that the Zelensky call? Yeah, the Zelensky call.
See, there is an hour. It's almost comparative in time because Putin's call went almost two hours.
Remember, Putin uses a translator. So that takes up a lot of time.
And then Zelensky spoke in English. And so it was basically a comparative call and spends time and effort.
And it was just a good call. And he had the team around him, he the president.
Zelensky was in Finland. He was with President Alex Stubb, who was a great friend of ours, by the way.

He actually went to school in Furman and actually plays golf with the president. So he was there supporting, and I think we're all in good shape.
And this week, we're putting what we call technical teams in what are called proximity talks in Saudi Arabia, where both sides come in, they're kept in separate rooms, and you basically say, okay, what is your terms? And you turn to the other side, what are your terms? You kind of do, it's basically shuttle diplomacy between rooms in Riyadh, and that's where they're at, and then we see where we can get to do a comprehensive ceasefire, and that'll be the first step towards the end of this war. And I think that's pretty fast.
The president said to me at one point, and I'm sure he has said this publicly as well, that, you know, he wasn't really prepared to be, he thought he was, but it was such a different job the first time around. And, you know, where everybody on The View was hugging him just months before saying you're the greatest guy and you're our good friend and then all of a sudden all the knives come out he had to be stunned in that and then after 2020 he took the time to really analyze and prepare and put the right people around him and the one thing that that has stunned me, stunned me, is I think he's one of the most well-read presidents we have had.
And I don't mean book smart stuff. I mean, you could ask him any question and he knows it down to the very smallest detail.
I found it. Am I misreading him or have you found that to be true? No matter what you ask him about, he knows it to the granular level.
Yeah, you know, Glenn, I'll give you kind of one of the inside stories on the fact that when you fly with him, you know, when you fly with him, he always has a stack of newspapers and from the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Financial Times, and he reads through them. And he's very, very knowledgeable.
We were sitting in the Oval during the first term, and he was talking about the aircraft carriers and the new aircraft carriers coming out, the new Ford class and what the problems were with the Ford class. And he said, yeah, where did he get this from? I know.
He got out of Forbes magazine. And you're absolutely right.
A couple of things is when the first administration, you're absolutely right, because nobody, there's no book out there, Presidents for Dummies. You learn on the job.
It starts. And I mean, he learned so fast in that job, but nobody is really prepared for a presidency.
Remember President Trump, before he came to Washington as a president, I said, I don't think he spent a night in Washington, D.C. ever.
So he came here and kind of came into it, met Obama. And frankly, I don't think he was well served by some of the people he brought in early on.
That's an understatement. Yeah.
And so he basically, you know, we were under battle. We were under siege before the inauguration.
I mean, I was with him on day one and we, he was doing, you know, they wanted to impeach him before he even became president. So we had to fight those battles.
Okay. Fast forward to now.
Oh yeah. He, when he went down to Mar-aLago and he said he's going to run again, he prepared.
And he put a team around him, a really smart team. And he thought their way through it.
You know, on day one of the first administration, he signed one executive order. I think on the first day of this administration, he signed over, I think it was 47 on day one.
He signs him every day. So we were rocking and rolling, ready to go.

To say he is prepared is a classic understatement, and it's different between nine and David.

But that is the beauty.

And you know something?

This is one of those, you almost want to sit back and think about it.

In a way, I'm glad there was a four-year break.

Yeah, me too.

Because it allowed him to really reflect on the first administration, what a second administration would look like, the good, the bad, the right people to have around him. And that's the reason why you're seeing him.
Do you talk about a man of action? I mean, as I said, we're at day 59 and heck, it feels like 59 years. Oh, I know.
It's amazing. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
So the president is going to abolish parts of the DOE, but the Department of Education was first put in by Jimmy Carter, and then a few years later, it was set in stone by Congress. So he can't shut it down because Congress established it.

So only Congress can abolish it.

However, he can trim the fat,

and he's going to cut it by about 50% today,

which is a great thing.

But as Michaela was doing her homework on this,

she said...

One of your producers?

Yeah, one of our producers.

She said, have you read producers. Yeah.
One of our producers. She said.

Have you read the Department of Education Organization Act?

I'm like.

Oh, obviously.

Of course I have.

But tell me what you found.

Listen to this.

It is the intention.

This is the founding document passed by Congress.

It is the intention of Congress in the establishment of the Department of Education to protect the rights of state and local governments and public and private educational institutions. Now, just that are they operating within the law that was set by Congress? Because I think you could convince me that that's a good idea.
Yeah, right. Right? That sounds great.

Right.

So let me read that again.

The intention of Congress in the establishment of the Department of Education to protect the rights of state and local governments and public and private educational institutions in the area of educational policies and administration of programs and to strengthen and improve the control of such governments and institutions over their own educational programs and policies you hear the second half of that to strengthen and improve the local and state administration and the control of their own educational programs and policies.

That is not what the DOE is doing. No.
Not even. Listen to the next line.
The establishment of the Department of Education shall not increase the authority of the federal government over education or diminish the responsibility for education which is reserved to the states and the local school systems and other instrumentalities of the states oh wait this is not what the department of education is at all so when they say well he well, he can't abolish the Department of Ed. No, they abolished the Department of Ed.
The Department of Ed isn't that. You know, because like you just said, I wouldn't have necessarily a problem with that.
I'd have some questions, but I wouldn't want it. As a direction, protecting local rights over education is exactly kind of what I want.
Exactly right. B, no provision of a program administered by the secretary or any other officer of the department shall be construed to authorize the secretary or any such officer to exercise any direction, supervision, or control over the local curriculum curriculum any program of instruction or administration or personnel of any educational institution school or school system over any accrediting agency or association or over the selection and content of library resources textbooks or other instructional materials by any educational institution or school system except to the extent authorized by this law i mean it seems all there's all sorts of limitations on it oh yeah i mean if you just go back to this if he just reset it to this do you know how many problems would go away I know this is really common too we mentioned the same thing with the

people this if he just reset it to this do you know how many problems would go away i know this is really common too we mentioned the same thing with the patriot act yep like uh the guy who wrote the patriot act there's a bunch of these things going on they're like i can't believe the patriot act would do this and he's like i wrote it it's not supposed to do that like right that's not what it right that's not what it's supposed to do at all it always it always grows It always evades that initial, you know, the limiting principles put on it by the law itself.

Which is amazing. When you know that to be true, and our founders knew that, it's amazing how long our Constitution and Bill of Rights has lasted.
You know, the average Constitution's age in the history of the world, the average age of death of a constitution is 17 years. We're coming up to 250 of our Declaration of Independence.
17 years. That's the average.
Wow. We are so far out.
For it to have lasted this long knowing that this is what it always happens they always morph and distort and erase the original founding ideas uh wow that's impressive and we're still standing yeah and again giant chunks of it are still standing As we've pointed out many times a lot of it isn't standing yes in other than it's just on paper but that's the problem right we should be back to it and should be trying to focus our country on following it again right but a little bit more closely but i am glad that it still stands me too it's just us and what is it san marino there's one other one other weird country that has a very old constitution is Isn't that an old, like, Chevy? Yeah, it's the Chevy San Marino. There's one other weird country that has a very old constitution.

Isn't that an old like Chevy? Yeah, it's the Chevy San Marino. Beautiful car.
Yeah, beautiful. V8.
Yeah, it's great. Yeah.
Here's the other thing that we need to talk about, and that is these judges. I'm going to get into Tesla on this in a second, and that's equally as important.
But let me talk again about the justices and the judges on what is happening. The judge has ordered to restore USAID worker access and forbids the shutdown because it's likely against the Constitution.
Well, that's not your job. The Obama appointed judge trying to stop USAID shutdown donated thousands of dollars to the Democrats.
The judge who blocked the key executive order has a long progressive activism history. I mean, we're having these judges get involved in everything.
So what are judges supposed to do? What does the Constitution actually say? I want to take you to a football field.

Glenn, don't do it.

You're getting dicey.

Don't go into a sports analysis.

Let's just take you out to a football field for a second.

Uh-oh.

Here we go.

Prepare yourself.

Grit your loins.

Is that like the grid loins?

Yeah, there you go.

Good job.

So let's say the ref is out and he decides that that touchdown is worth 10 points. The clock should be kept running because I think so.
It's most likely that it should be running right now. That is what's happening in our court system.
That's judicial or referee activism. They're're just making stuff up judges that are stepping beyond their lane and making up the rules instead of just calling the game as written that's what judges are supposed to do they're supposed to look at things as written and then say no sorry guys that's the law.
Not, you know what, you know what we should do?

I should also be able to eat any kind of candy that I want.

And you're a defendant, you need to bring me candy.

Because that's what I want right now, okay?

I'm fat.

I've been sitting behind the bench for a long time.

You can't even notice my fatness.

I am the size of the bench. Just my upper torso's not.
You can't do that. You don't do that.
Now, it's important to realize judges aren't necessarily bad guys. They have a really, really tough job.
And I don't like, you know, I really feel bad when you're like, well, that's just a bad ruling. Well, maybe, but I wasn't in the courtroom.
How many times have we done a story where we really want to bash the judge, but you weren't in the courtroom. You don't know what was said or what they know.
You talked about that when you did jury duty. Yeah, I remember.
Because I think from an outsider perspective, you could always come to something. But when you're there watching it every single day and yeah it's just different sometimes it's different so when they start acting like lawmakers instead of interpreters of that law then we have a problem like a judge should step in now on the department of education and say sorry gang uh i read this section last.
That's not what's going on here. So the president, yeah, I recommend I shouldn't.
But if it comes into my courtroom, I'm going to show, yeah, well, that's the law. Not my opinion.
I might love the department. I might be a full-fledged communist.
But I'm here to uphold the law. And that's what Congress congress said it is and that's not what it is now sometimes there are problems that congress needs to step in and say you're out of here sometimes the judges and it has happened in our history and it's a very high bar but i'm not sure i mean it should be a high bar like it is with impeachment of the president but it shouldn't be off the table okay and and here's why if you go back to the founding fathers they thought this through it's kind of crazy it's not like hey we're gonna do a new constitution in iceland tweet us your ideas uh in federalist 78 alexander hamilton says judges should not have life tenure um and if they do only if they're on good behavior well what does that mean well he saw judges uh as the least dangerous branch because it doesn't have it doesn't control control the purse strings and it doesn't have an army.
Okay. So he's like, you know, I mean, if they're on good behavior, just let them go, just let them go.
But he also knew that judges weren't perfect. They do go rogue.
So he knew that they would twist the constitution and what they were doing into something that it's not. And that good behavior clause is not just for decoration.
It's the lifeline of the people to stop the judges that have gone bad. Then in Federalist 81, Hamilton doubles down on this.
Judges can be impeached if they abuse their power. do they abuse their power they step out of line of interpreting the law and start writing laws and he's very clear congress has the muscle to check them you know it's it's like giving the principal the power to fire a teacher who's you know teaching kids the alphabet you know backwards and mixed up no you know i appreciate we're not doing that okay we hired you to teach the alphabet um so has this ever been done has this ever been exercised yeah i talked to a federal judge last night about this and he's like glenn luster versus georgia and i'm like oh man that's

one of my favorite rulings but i want to ask you to see how much you know about luster versus georgia it's back in 1832 supreme court told georgia they have to stop messing with the cherokee nation land And I think they also said you can't go in and teach the Cherokee tribes Christianity okay Georgia said nah we're gonna do that anyway okay now I am not a fan of the way the Native Americans were treated in history and I'm not a fan of Andrew Jackson but he wasn't a fan of the court and he supposedly said great the judge has made his decision now let him figure out how to enforce it now I don't like that I don't like that but that's what uh Federalist 81 was saying they don't have purse strings they don't have an army. They don't have an army.
They have an opinion. But if the other two branches are like, nah, we're going to do it anyway.
Again, I don't like that. But that can only apply to when the judges step out of their lane.
When you're an activist judge, go ahead. You call your army.
But when they're in their lane and they're saying, no, this is the law, this is how it's written, then you don't say, nah, you go ahead and try to enforce that. Because then it's a breakdown.
But it's just as much of a breakdown if they legislate from the bench and we do nothing about it. The court doesn't have any tanks, doesn't have any cops.
It relies on the other two branches. It's why that one's the weakest.
It has no enforcement. It was never given any enforcement.
The founders didn't want it to have any enforcement. Congress has the checkbook.
The president has the tanks. The justices have their robes.
So they lose. They're the weakest of them.
Now, they're supposed to be able to check each other. So you're out of respect for what each arm is supposed to do.
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