Episode 783 | "Dimatapped"

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Speaker 1 I repeat, it is not serious, it is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting,

Speaker 1 or telling you anything about themselves.

Speaker 1 Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.

Speaker 1 We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.

Speaker 1 Enjoy the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Yeah. Parks, do you have a black eye? I do.

Speaker 1 Right off the bat, huh? We're going to start right now.

Speaker 1 Let's get it out the way. Listen, when white boys got a black eye, that just meant too much fun.
You went to fucking fuck. We're going to talk about fight club.
That's the first rule.

Speaker 1 That's true. Okay.
Somebody shut a club on you.

Speaker 1 The sidewalk took a club on my ass.

Speaker 1 There might be a lawsuit coming to someone, so careful what we said.

Speaker 1 You know, seriously, though. Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 You should see it. Hold on, hold on, yeah.
Sue.

Speaker 1 Give me a little piece. So

Speaker 1 me and Rem called Ice and the Missing Piece, and Gif was out with us. We had a good time.
We're walking home. Turned around the corner from a bodega.
Someone said something.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to guide everyone back to the crib. They left the little sidewalk vaults up.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. And I took a spillover that shit, landed face first on the fucking pavement.
Oh, that's money. Shit.
That's money.

Speaker 1 What steak was that? New York. New York.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's why I got a guy. So you got a guy? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Look, so we're going to cut the camera off. You You could tell us what really happened.
No, I swear to God. Turned the corner.
You were trying to guide everybody home. And then somebody.

Speaker 1 Somebody got a concussion because I remember everybody after that. He don't know.
No bullshit. Parks looked back, talking to us, and next thing you know, he was.

Speaker 1 We was like, yo, he not drunk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wasn't lit like that. He wasn't the shit that go down to the

Speaker 1 you fell downstairs? No, no,

Speaker 1 he just tripped over the door.

Speaker 1 Was there a cone there? No. No.
Oh, yeah, you gotta do it. No cone.
Oh, that's Brad. That's Brad.

Speaker 1 Especially what happened to your neck.

Speaker 1 Ayo, I saw it. My leg is fucked up.
On your leg sword, man. Ayo, my leg is fucked up.
Back injury. I was there.
I got you.

Speaker 1 Parks got back to the crib. No bullshit.
Laid on the couch. That nigga started throwing up.
He was like, yo, I might have a concussion. I'm talking to him the next day.

Speaker 1 He was like, I don't remember none of that. I don't remember nothing.
He's like, I think I might have got to it.

Speaker 2 Death neck concussion.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Facebook. People down on the pavement.
People, you know, I know you don't see Joe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I know you don't see Joe here today.
Joe was out on personal time. We actually told him to take a couple of pods off.
We actually

Speaker 1 suspended him. Yeah, as a sound.
Let's tell him as a collective. We was tired.
He came late. He came late.
We didn't

Speaker 1 We was tired of that. He came late and he disrespected all the...
Yeah, he disrespected with the walk in late and just sat there. Like, nah, man, you can.
The rules apply to everybody. So

Speaker 1 I know y'all niggas want me out of here, but for the first time, the team was actually with me. We put, hey, yo, nigga, stay home.
Sit down and watch us tear this shit up.

Speaker 1 I know all the juicy news you want to do. You got personal shit there.

Speaker 1 That good for you. All that prize picks and all that personal shit you want to deal with and not include me.
Yeah, stay home and watch us turn turn this shit the fuck up.

Speaker 1 Joe is not here, but we are here

Speaker 1 to give you fun.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 I'll try my best, guys. I'll try my best.
I might still be like, like an Asian prostitute.

Speaker 1 I'll give you fun.

Speaker 1 Like an Asian prostitute giving you fun. I be here to give you fun.

Speaker 1 You know. Yo, me raising you.
You've been in America for a long time.

Speaker 1 I know you want to put your cape on because when you was watching, you felt that I was too too hard on your sister male. But let me tell you something: you are putting yourself in the target with me.

Speaker 1 Leave me alone. I'm minding my own business.
You talk about every time. Asian prostitute, I actually tried to go get a massage late at night, Thanksgiving Day.
They turned me back to the bank.

Speaker 1 When you rap Thanksgiving, they don't you know when they saw the camera

Speaker 1 they saw the camera and I forgot that no hockey pecky bankers I forgot that in the older side

Speaker 1 you said what you have said I have fenders

Speaker 1 square roll, man. No, that's okay.
It's okay.

Speaker 1 Let him down.

Speaker 1 We eat Jackie. We don't touch Jackie.

Speaker 1 You know what's crazy with us?

Speaker 1 When a nigga's in his crib a lot and he's not outside no more, he gotta do that. Get it.
You know your shit. You ain't never gonna put it up.

Speaker 1 You know the Big M don't allow you to get your shit off. Yeah, you jack.
I don't know. So get it off of here, nigga.

Speaker 1 The king would allow you.

Speaker 1 Anything else? Go ahead. I'm there.

Speaker 1 Finish your story. Put it away.
Finish your story, nigga. Go to your fucking book club, nigga.
Go to your library and add some books to the library.

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 I forgot that Eric Adams has shut a lot of that stuff down, so they get nervous when they see the camera. You know, I'm waiting there with the camera.
I'm a waiting shot. This nigga was expose.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's got a buddy. Look, you know, he finally got a buddy.
Yeah, my nigga.

Speaker 1 Finish laughing with your buddy.

Speaker 1 Yes, I'm playing. Your other friends is hurt.
I don't even know what your birthday is. Your other friends is hurt.
Bob,

Speaker 1 it hurts. You heard what they said? I don't know.

Speaker 1 We in. Thanks for that.
Always queen.

Speaker 1 I love my watch talk, for me, my whip talk, for me, my gap talk, for me.

Speaker 1 What up, homie? My watch saying hi, shorty, we could be friends. My whip saying quit playing, bitch, get in.
My big ring saying we can hit them all together.

Speaker 1 Shorty, it's only right that we ball together.

Speaker 1 I'm in the bigger things, y'all need these, y'all know my style. Your bitch bling, bling, my shit bling, black.
My pinky ring talk, it says 50, I'm sick. That's why these niggas is on my tick.

Speaker 1 Some pink me, some love, my hits. Flex my man, he gon' bump my shit.

Speaker 1 See, I'm a line, man, I really don't care.

Speaker 1 I tell the hoes whatever they want here.

Speaker 1 They tryna play me, I'm a blade in. My cross cost more than a fifty, mama raised in.
Crazy, crazy.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Hey, you niggas ain't real outside. Cheating then.
Bro, we got McMelt here.

Speaker 1 Turn your ass.

Speaker 1 It's going down.

Speaker 1 Cause I'm around.

Speaker 1 50 cents, you know. I just damn

Speaker 1 gangsta Put up blood

Speaker 1 for the cuz What for the blood

Speaker 1 for the gangsta They say I walk around like I got a S on my chest Now that's a semi-oh, in the vest on my chest I try not to save that nigga TA like more play

Speaker 1 But I'ma duck nigga down like this a sport

Speaker 1 gun butt your fuck till you get money I can't get nothin' with you than fuck yeah, I'm not talking, I'm not ducky, I'm not talking, I'm not talking, I'm not talking.

Speaker 1 Hey, boy, you switched out of that, stack with your tongue. Tell me,

Speaker 1 y'all, tell me y'all be pressed. Take up what you're having, say I don't believe shit.

Speaker 1 I'm high all the time, I smoke that good shit. I stay high all the time, I'm on some bullshit.
Give me some drill, purple hands, and some child play. Give me a gutch and a lighter, I spout shit.

Speaker 1 And stay high all the time, I smoke that good shit. I'm high all the time, I'm on the simple shit.
Every time I hold up, niggas holler, roll up. Then I tell them, hold up.

Speaker 1 You ain't getting money, you ain't smoking in my benzo. Twenty years Lorenzo, smoking a window.
High as a motherfucker, I be on the back streets. They just want my clap peek.

Speaker 1 Only if you got beat, man, you better holler at me. Niggas get locked up, stab, shot up.
Every time I pop up, I lock going on in my

Speaker 1 pause. This shit,

Speaker 1 We had to start on a high note, man. You had to represent

Speaker 1 for the man. You know what I'm saying? What episode is this, Parks?

Speaker 1 783?

Speaker 1 I know you got a concussion then, but you tell me.

Speaker 1 You got to bear with me today. You got to bear with me.
You're going to be to the Joe Button podcast. This is episode 783.

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Speaker 1 Okay, bro. Get that.
Okay. Get your shit off.
You got to fly Prospect boys too, yo. I got to get into it.
That was a hype.

Speaker 1 Nigga having a nigga sign that $7

Speaker 1 backstage.

Speaker 1 Anything else, nigga? I'm good. Anything else? No, go ahead.
Okay. Welcome to episode 783 of the Joe Bun Podcast.
I am one of your hosts, Queen's Flip, along with the other host.

Speaker 1 Nah, that's a Mike Flip right there. That's A.
Mike.

Speaker 1 A. Mike.
To the right.

Speaker 1 You've seen her everywhere. Oh, my God.
No, I'm never going to that.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to.

Speaker 1 She's the only one that could go into Vims and pull this out, nigga.

Speaker 1 Ronald LeBron.

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Speaker 1 Nigga said the fifth.

Speaker 1 Nah, that's detrimental. Jordan London.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Canada's finance. The big M4 round LeBron Miller boy.

Speaker 2 That sounded a little judgmental.

Speaker 1 Sorry, though, you look amazing.

Speaker 1 To her right, to her right, you got him.

Speaker 1 You know who he is. You know what he's about.
He was just at the battle with his brother standing there in the crowd. They pointed at him.
He was front and center.

Speaker 1 I think you had a Crenshaw jersey on. That was you? You had the big chain older? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it was big chain. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Mr., I get money, but I don't want to show I got money. Mr.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Round of applause, my man.
Freeze in the building. Freeze.

Speaker 1 Mr. Leave You Behind if you're not on his time.

Speaker 1 Mr. Leave You Behind if you're not on his time.
Mr. A Thousand Doors.
And I did some research and I saw a couple of them. Mr.
HVAC system for all my tenants, nigga. Top notch.

Speaker 1 He got the piss bottles out the car. I just just checked to the window.

Speaker 1 He got it out.

Speaker 1 I looked to the window. I had a look.
I looked to the window. He got the snacks in there, though.
Yeah, he got the snacks in there.

Speaker 1 Waz best, YWAS Kings, round of applause for my man library. Biggest.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can't nobody pull them James off with that hoodie.

Speaker 1 The professors of all professors.

Speaker 1 CNN, Fox, all them shits that he was a part of, man, you know, they miss him because he leaves a stain that's unremovable. He tried to walk in here today.
He tried to walk in here today.

Speaker 1 No, he tried to walk in here today with a Morehouse tag to show off that he went to Morehouse.

Speaker 1 He got the hoodie on. He's one of them.
He got one of the biggest libraries in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 I'm just lying to make him shit. Morehouse next to Morehouse's, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I see what you like there. I like that.
Morehouse next to Morehouse. He's an engineer.
Shout out to.

Speaker 1 Are you a doctor yet? Oh, shit. You're old shit.
About 20 years, yeah. 20 years, doctor?

Speaker 1 Shout out to Dr.

Speaker 1 Mark Lamont. Hello.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. You know who this is.

Speaker 1 Mr. Lightbright.

Speaker 1 Mr. Don't No Boundaries.

Speaker 1 Wow. Mr.
Don't Respect

Speaker 1 Work Ethics. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I'm ready.

Speaker 1 Mr. A nice hoodie, bro.
That is nice. Hold on.
Let me finish. Let me finish get my man's intro.
Mr. Steal Your Girl.
I was going to say that.

Speaker 1 Mr. Steal Your Girl.
Mr.

Speaker 1 I get I get up and dance any way I want to. You give her back though.

Speaker 1 No, he'll give her a drink. Mr.
I played more. I borrowed your girl.
Mr. Kiss them and run off the first day.

Speaker 1 Mr. Hold their hands and play fingers and Twitter his

Speaker 1 fingers with them and ducking donuts, nigga.

Speaker 1 Mr. Put them in front of the line and dunking donuts and put them in the back of the line at the same time.
Roderapuff, my man, E-Money, E-Mighty, E-Major, E-Best.

Speaker 1 Man, niggas.

Speaker 1 And you just,

Speaker 1 we just got Parks.

Speaker 1 Everybody got home.

Speaker 1 We just got gym. No, no, no, no.
The best engineer. I can't look at you the same because you got that black eye.
And I really think somebody possessed it. I think I'm still beautiful, bro.

Speaker 1 You are, man. I thought that was a good one.
Oh, you put extra gel in this woman. You know what Parks have black eyes? Let me say this, Parks.

Speaker 1 I did pod wives yesterday, right? We did, we did. And in my head, I said, damn, son, like, did Paul, did did Joe actually make Parks

Speaker 1 make Ren punch Parks in the face?

Speaker 1 Did he actually expose Parks? Round of applause for the best engineer in the fucking world. You know who he is.
You know what he's about. You know how he gets.

Speaker 1 Yo, hold on. Can we stop doing that too?

Speaker 1 Stop doing that.

Speaker 1 You call me a what? You said that? He didn't say nothing, bro. You called me a cigarette in the UK? No, no, he said fat.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, y'all,

Speaker 1 y'all awfully close together, huh? S'mores? Y'all niggas looking on me the s'mores. Y'all niggas is that stop playing with me, both of you.
What are you talking about? What you mean?

Speaker 1 Y'all wanna what y'all want to play mind tennis with each other, huh? I just tell you. We're two smart niggas together.
Chill. Let me just have my shit.

Speaker 1 Round of applause for the best engineer in the fucking world, my nigga Piggity Parks, nigga.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Ow. How was that? That was fucking amazing.

Speaker 1 That was fine.

Speaker 1 Keeve is here. Eric said in the manga's here.

Speaker 1 I don't want to introduce all them niggas.

Speaker 1 And most of all, you are here.

Speaker 2 You missed that part.

Speaker 1 Oh, she's going for the co-aid. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you know what, though?

Speaker 1 That prospect shit looking good, huh? I don't like that shit. I don't like the type of thought she's going to be.

Speaker 1 All right. Okay.

Speaker 1 Welcome, though. How was your week?

Speaker 1 Weekend. I had a great time until I didn't, but y'all good.

Speaker 1 Y'all go ahead. I had a good time.

Speaker 1 How was your weekend, Mark? It was good. You know, I normally don't go outside.
So, and I thought we were going to do a pod's giving last week.

Speaker 1 So I told my wife we were were going out,

Speaker 1 you know, so got a babysitter to all this shit. Oh, you can't waste that? Oh, I can't waste it.
Oh, no, no.

Speaker 1 And so, I went to the mall, I was coming back. I think I bumped into the quarry in the mall.

Speaker 1 Then I was like up at Shore Hills. Then I was like,

Speaker 1 Shore Hills. You hit the hill, right?

Speaker 1 Is that the good one? Yes,

Speaker 1 that's it. I don't know.
I just, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 that's the one. That's what was all the designer shit.

Speaker 2 Max Maron.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 About eight minutes from his house. I just moved.
Right there.

Speaker 1 My apartment complex is right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 The projects. Yeah, that's it.
That's it.

Speaker 1 And so after it got canceled because Joe's on suspension, I had to figure out something else to do. So I decided to take my wife to the Usher concert.

Speaker 1 Plan B. Plan B.

Speaker 1 What, what, what, what? So we went? No, no.

Speaker 1 I know better. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I was looking for tickets, and they had tickets up in the rafters. Of course, can't do that.
No, you can't do that. No.
They had tickets front row. No, can't do that either.

Speaker 1 Then they had tickets like fifth row. And the fifth row tickets was basically the same price as the front row tickets.

Speaker 1 So if I had been a less smart man, I would have got the front row tickets. But I wasn't letting my wife that close to Usher.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Front row tickets. No, front row tickets come with cherries.

Speaker 1 So, but first of all, this motherfucker's a genius. He killed it.
Whole thing. But right in the middle, he started singing.
He pulled out them cherries.

Speaker 1 He said, I'm going to take it to the back today. Oh, shit.
See, y'all confused. He does that all the time.
Well, I didn't know. Well, niggas don't know that.
He started working. First row, second row.

Speaker 1 He got right to I.

Speaker 1 I did the full block. Like, I am not.
Like, when we go to other shows. You hated on Ush?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 Completely.

Speaker 1 I am completely confident that 99% of the shows I will leave home with my wife and come back with my wife. Usher? I'm not so confident.
Protect your queen, man. That's right.
I'm not so confident.

Speaker 1 That's a household nigga.

Speaker 1 Usher would turn. Fucking with me.
Usher would turn to the other Usher, nigga. Yeah, I'm not worried about her like sleep ush.

Speaker 1 What I'm worried about, my whole thought the whole time was if my wife is on the Barclays Center on a TV screen, eating cherries at an Usher hand, them niggas on a pot is going to fry me up all over.

Speaker 1 That's the cover. That's the cover of the next episode.
I was for sure. You would have been turkey.
Yeah, I wouldn't have came back.

Speaker 1 I've been on suspension, too. But you enjoyed it.
I had a good time. Yo,

Speaker 1 how did she show it? She had a great time. She loved it.
And Usher's a, man, that motherfucker's a genius.

Speaker 1 I'm an Usher fan, but I'm like a much bigger fan after watching him perform. I had never seen him.
It's a way different show.

Speaker 1 I told you. His show, his live show, I get the comparisons to other people, but his live show is just different.

Speaker 1 Without all the other theatric shit, that stagement, like that stagemanship shit, he got down

Speaker 1 amazing. How was your weekend, Eve?

Speaker 1 Had a couple of flights.

Speaker 1 Taking care of personal business.

Speaker 1 You flew something, man? No, no. You out to something? Family, yeah.
I flew family.

Speaker 1 You paid? I mean, your wife from Earl. Family.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yo, you're wife from Earl.
That's true. They become family quick, but you ain't broke.

Speaker 1 Hold on, hold hold on, y'all. Like, did you pay for their flights or they pay for their old family? It's my family member.
Yes, I went to go get my family member.

Speaker 1 But you're getting them from the airport and paying for their flights to different things. I can't really do it.

Speaker 1 Oh, God, I got it. Okay, I'm just making sure I'm.
Oh, yeah, no. It was

Speaker 1 business. Had to take care of some family duties.
So, nice. That was my weekend.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Ish, how was your weekend, my brother? It was cool.

Speaker 1 Family shit. Family shit, too.
Yeah, family shit. That's a lot we all using today? I did.

Speaker 1 I went to

Speaker 1 all my white shit. Went to go cut the tree down.

Speaker 1 We go. Wait, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 You went to go cut.

Speaker 2 Physically cut the tree down. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's about that shit. He's got to saw everything in the trope.

Speaker 1 Did you cut it with a Caribbean style? Or you cut it with the axe? Or you cut it with the. What is Caribbean Christmas? Caribbean style.
Machete. No.

Speaker 1 You can't cut a tree with a tree. You can't cut the Christmas tree with a machete, man.
I'm cheap as you.

Speaker 1 You might cut.

Speaker 1 First of all, my tree is expensive. And this man,

Speaker 1 He got a bonsai tree.

Speaker 1 With one little on it, right?

Speaker 1 They said you got a Charlie Brown Christmas tree.

Speaker 1 The bow starts sticking on that shit.

Speaker 1 You know what the fuck up? That nigga's done it? Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 I went with my family. They cut down the Christmas tree.
Cut it yourself. Yeah.
With an axe. A saw.
Saw. Bow saw? Electric? Nah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They give you a saw. They got a bunch of saws hanging on the thing.
You just got to go. That's a good workout.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How long does it take you?

Speaker 1 It ain't. It's easy.
It ain't as hard as you think.

Speaker 2 Did they already start it for you?

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Like, you just be walking.
It's just fields and fields. It's roads and roads and roads.
And one just spoke to your soul and was like, oh, this is a bad one.

Speaker 1 You just go up and pick whatever one you want to pick. And you cut that one.

Speaker 1 Y'all decorated already? Did you pick the first one or did you walk for a minute into the woods? Nah, no, shit, it's because...

Speaker 1 White people different, bro. Yo,

Speaker 1 it's far out in Bougie. It's Mendem, New Jersey.
So it's like Whitney, Houston, all all of them lived out there. So

Speaker 1 usually

Speaker 1 you caught that right. You caught that right there.

Speaker 1 Whitney, Houston.

Speaker 1 Don't start your shit about talking about no money. I know, I ain't going to get it, right?

Speaker 1 But yo, so no, it's just literally trees as far as your eyes can see, and you just go out there and pick out a tree. But evidently, we was on CP because we got there.
That shit was packed.

Speaker 1 Truck, you couldn't barely park out there.

Speaker 1 So we got there. A lot of the good whites had already took the pick of the litter.

Speaker 1 They had already taken a a pick of the litter. But no, it was flying.
I run tree. You got the skinny, dried up shit.
Now you just got to spend a little bit more to get a better tree. Got it.
Nah.

Speaker 1 That ain't nothing for you. We spend like 2K.
Spend something.

Speaker 1 Douglas fur?

Speaker 1 You got some fantasy shit.

Speaker 1 Drop a little something on the tree. 2K.

Speaker 1 Nah, it's cheap, nigga. Like 200, 300 for the, you know.
Ain't it like drinking? These trees are expensive, though. That's expensive, bro.
Cut your own tree? 300? Yeah, doing all the work. 300.

Speaker 1 Y'all cutting that shit. It's an experience, though.
Like, they got the train ride for the kids, all the shit. Hot cocoa, all that, you know, shit.

Speaker 1 You remember with this, he wants to give his family the shit that he didn't have as a kid. So it's important that he does all the shit to train.
I'm with you on that shit. He wanted to do the train.

Speaker 1 He wanted to do the cutting the tree. He didn't have that shit.
The nigga, the tree that he was cutting was weed.

Speaker 1 I got the purple hands.

Speaker 1 I got the blacks. and the greens.

Speaker 1 That's what I like about you, though. You're an idiot.
You go above and be all. I love that.
You're a fucking idiot. And at at your age, you're willing to experience this shit.

Speaker 1 I love that. But that's supposed to have your trees up already by now, right? Yeah.
I was supposed to give out this weekend.

Speaker 1 Like, typically the week after the gym, most people do it. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Male, how was your weekend, girl?

Speaker 2 I didn't do much. I just worked out.

Speaker 1 You went to the gym for three days.

Speaker 2 I worked out a lot, yes.

Speaker 1 Three-day gym?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, Saturday and Sunday.
And then Monday, I went to go see my new studio space.

Speaker 1 How is that coming along, man? Flexos niggas, man.

Speaker 2 It's going extraordinarily well. So I was meeting with the contractors about the set build and the whole nine.
Everything that you went through with your studio.

Speaker 1 Don't watch me.

Speaker 1 I spent money. Are you spending or is

Speaker 1 being gifted?

Speaker 2 No, it's not being gifted. That's hate.

Speaker 1 It is hate. It is hate.

Speaker 2 This is a fully self-funded project. Thank you.

Speaker 1 There we go, girl.

Speaker 1 You are every woman.

Speaker 2 I am every, yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 New hot and bothered out.

Speaker 2 There is a new episode out, yes, with my girlfriend, Natasha, Natasha Ellie. It's really good.
It's a part two.

Speaker 1 I gotta catch up. Sorry.
Yes, you do. I'm bonded.
I'm bonded.

Speaker 1 You gotta learn all about this. You put a post up.
This goes juicy. Before we get the freeze, I'm sorry.
I don't know if that's appropriate in the menopause conversation, but I mean,

Speaker 1 you put

Speaker 1 you're hilarious. Sorry.
Okay.

Speaker 2 There is a misnomer about that shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, my bad. But before

Speaker 1 you put a post up that Hot and Bothered, you about to, you know, Hot and Bothered is coming to an end, like as far as the season. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the season, the first season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, nice, nice. All right.
So

Speaker 2 I need a break in between season one and season two so I can get the new set built. Nice.
Yeah, that's the plan. That's the only reason for the hiatus.

Speaker 1 Gotcha.

Speaker 2 Is I need to move out of the current studio, get into my new shit.

Speaker 1 That's right. So for niggas who thought it was over.

Speaker 2 Why would anybody fucking think that?

Speaker 1 It's over and then move over.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm not going to lie, like starting a new podcast is really hard. Most podcasts don't make it past the 21st episode.
True. Like it's not a fucking,

Speaker 2 it is a fucking grind.

Speaker 1 Like I made it to six and said enough of this. Oh, yeah.
You only did six. Six or seven, something like that.
I'm going to get this shit out of here. Yeah, it's quit my shit after five.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Y'all wasn't paying either. Freeze.

Speaker 1 Freeze. How was your week at Freeze? Kind of similar to what Mark said.
Like we anticipated Pazgiving and had babysitters and shit up, set up. So I'm like, we ain't wasting this.

Speaker 1 We got to do something. So we just went out with stocks for a little bit, bounced around, shouts to my guy Flea, went to his party.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Parks hit me, was like, yo, we running around in Astoria. Come out.
We went out there with them.

Speaker 1 Hit the little hookah bar.

Speaker 1 And then you went to the battle. I didn't go to the battle.
You wasn't there? No. That's what I was doing.

Speaker 1 I could have sworn I saw you. Where were you? You didn't see me.
I was busy. Okay.
Baby-free. Busy.

Speaker 1 Okay. You and your lady.
She had a nice.

Speaker 1 Guys, man. What was you doing? What'd you dare? What was your weekend like? What was the weekend? Family.

Speaker 1 Family shit. I was just with family.
Just

Speaker 1 a weekend full of family. That's all that.
Family is important. Spend some money for your shit.

Speaker 1 It's everything. Spend some money.
I did. My wife tried to get a new cat.

Speaker 1 Yo, we doing some. Smart house, restoration hardware.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 We doing some family stuff. Uh, family, we hosting a family dinner, so she's buying man's shit and wanting to go to get these couches.
This nigga mood, whole mood check works.

Speaker 1 Niggas start rubbing this nigga.

Speaker 1 Nigga, me stressed out, man. Had to hit E and up.
Like, yo, nigga, I need, what's up, man? Like, what we doing?

Speaker 1 We doing bonuses? Like, what's up?

Speaker 1 Give him a bad. We do advance.

Speaker 1 Yo, I need a bonus and an advance, nigga. Like, what the fuck? Like, nigga, nigga, we don't.
Put your cup away, dog.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Why? Please, son.
Nigga, we don't have.

Speaker 1 I'm going to banker. We're not rich like you.
I'm not going to be able to do that. We don't hide our cribs.
We don't hide our cribs somewhere where Mr. Scrooge live and all that shit.

Speaker 1 We don't hide our cribs and shit like that. And we're not rich.
You got gold still from the 80s, nigga. We don't got that.

Speaker 1 We don't got that, nigga.

Speaker 1 But welcome, man. Welcome.
It's good to see everybody, man. I'm happy to see everybody.
Let's get to the show, man.

Speaker 1 What's up? What are we doing? It's a lot. It's a lot.
It's a lot going on. What we doing, man?

Speaker 1 Like, i think i think we should get it out the way mr mark what's up mark where you want to take this get out the way man you know you know what it is

Speaker 1 hove we gotta talk about hove first right exactly okay they're gonna think we pussy if we don't right straight into the hole right to it and we can do it because joe ain't here so we you know

Speaker 1 he ain't got to go ahead and take no backlash at anything we say

Speaker 1 what's y'all okay hold on let's

Speaker 1 do it we have to introduce the topic yes this is usually where mel shout is mel got us

Speaker 2 okay so i'm looking i just want to read the um the letter that rock nation responded to.

Speaker 1 Let's start with the first, man. What's up?

Speaker 1 What's that? Jay-Z. Jay-Z is.
Are you sure you stopped the contract?

Speaker 1 So Jay-Z

Speaker 1 was

Speaker 1 made part of a civil suit where he was alleged to have

Speaker 2 participated in a r against a 13-year-old.

Speaker 1 13-year-old girl. Initially, it was filed a couple of months ago without him on it.

Speaker 1 They made an addendum to the civil complaint and made it so that it wasn't just Diddy whose name was on there, but now Jay-Z's name is on there.

Speaker 1 Within two hours, Jay-Z responded to this allegation with what Mel's about to read.

Speaker 2 Yes, this was very fine print, okay? I'm just letting y'all know.

Speaker 1 I know what I'm getting you for Christmas.

Speaker 2 All right, my lawyer received a blackmail attempt called a demand letter from a lawyer, quote unquote, named Tony Busby.

Speaker 2 What he had calculated was the nature of these allegations and the the public scrutiny that would make me want to settle. No, sir.
It had the opposite effect.

Speaker 2 It made me want to expose you for the fraud that you are in a very public fashion. So, no, I will not give you one red penny.
This shit was fire. This letter was like.

Speaker 1 He was tight. Now,

Speaker 1 you can feel the anger in the team. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 According to my sources, he did this himself on his iPhone. Oh, no, I believe it.
You can hear this and tell us what's happening. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay. These allegations are so heinous in nature that I implore you to file a criminal complaint, not a civil one.
Whomever would commit such a crime against a minor should be locked away.

Speaker 2 Would you not agree? These alleged victims would deserve real justice if that were the case. This lawyer, who I have done a bit of research on, seems to have a pattern of these types of theatrics.

Speaker 2 I have no idea how you have come to be such a deplorable human, Mr. Busby, but I promise you, I have seen your kind many times over.
I'm more than prepared to deal with your type.

Speaker 2 You claim to be a Marine. Marines are known for their valor.
You have neither honor nor dignity. My only heartbreak is for my family.

Speaker 2 My wife and I will have to sit our children down, one of whom is the age where her friends are surely to have seen the press and ask questions about the nature of these claims and explain the cruelty and greed of people.

Speaker 2 I mourn yet another loss of innocence. Children should not have to endure such at the such at their age, at their young age.

Speaker 2 It is unfair to have to try to understand inexplicable degrees of malice meant to destroy families and human spirit.

Speaker 2 My heart and support goes out to the true victims in the world who have to watch how their life story is dressed in costume for profitability by this ambulance chaser in a cheap suit.

Speaker 1 Bars.

Speaker 2 You have made a terrible error in judgment thinking that all celebrities are the same. I am not from your world.
I'm a young man who made it out of the projects of Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 We don't play these types of games. We have very strict codes of honor.
We protect children. You seem to exploit people for personal gain.

Speaker 2 Only your network of conspiracy theories, fake physics will believe the idiotic claims that you have levied against me, if not for the seriousness surrounding harm to kids, would be laughable.

Speaker 1 Wow. And then they deleted that version.

Speaker 1 Then posted another version where he added one more sentence and said, you're about to find out just how different I am.

Speaker 1 So the reason he was so mad was

Speaker 1 not just because a civil case was made, but

Speaker 1 before his name was added, they came to him and basically said, basically, if you pay us, then we'll shut the fuck out of it. We won't say nothing.
Yes. And your name won't get added.

Speaker 1 And that's when the lawyer stood up and said, I'm not going to be intimidated by Jay-Z. I'm a Marine.
I'm tough. And that's where all that stuff came out.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I don't know who's innocent. I don't know who's guilty.
But Jay-Z's response seems like the response of somebody who doesn't want to be black man.

Speaker 1 Well, remember,

Speaker 1 when the man first went to them, they sued the lawyer. Right.
They initially sued him like, yo, listen, we're not playing them games. Y'all are trying this.
We're suing you right off the rip.

Speaker 1 And then the lawyer tried to to respond and say that was an attempt to silence him or get it get the media to you know play media games and all of that

Speaker 1 how do we feel though like that doesn't be do we feel that jay-z is is is guilty do we feel like jay-z participated in this act i'm in 2000 i'm 2000 i'll tell you with diddy do we feel that i kept hearing you know with the diddy thing when that first came out I was one, I jumped right out.

Speaker 1 I believed everything that Cassie said. It was about the victim in that instance.

Speaker 1 In this case, and a lot of the the stories we heard about Puff throughout the years, this kind of tracked a little bit. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Speaker 1 With Hove, A, I haven't heard these stories about him like that. Not saying they're not true.
I'm just saying, I haven't heard him.

Speaker 1 B,

Speaker 1 I don't know who the victim is.

Speaker 1 That's important to me.

Speaker 2 And he wants to make the name public.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 with the Puff situation, when the news first broke, it was Cassie suing Puff. Understood.
It was very easy to believe her because we knew her to have been around him.

Speaker 1 We've heard some of the things that she went through. I don't know who this victim is.
This could be made up for all I know.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I'm not just jumping out the window just believing, hey, I said this happened. I don't, I don't, okay, I need more.

Speaker 2 So, in the part where he says,

Speaker 2 if this is in fact true, why not file a criminal complaint?

Speaker 2 So, I just had a question about the statute of limitations.

Speaker 2 Have they been extended?

Speaker 1 Okay, in New York and particularly have you. Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 So, then he's right. Yeah.
Why was this not a criminal complaint filed?

Speaker 1 If you were done, so

Speaker 1 so the alleged charge is that he and Puff

Speaker 1 Engage in

Speaker 1 sexual activity

Speaker 1 with a 13-year-old

Speaker 1 So the the the the details surrounding that were allegedly they left the Grammys and were going to

Speaker 1 some awards pardon me and we're going to the after party for the awards. My thing is and this is where I lose Focus sometimes

Speaker 1 I'm not having my daughter in a car with two gentlemen or any gentleman without myself or my daughter's mom present. That's one.

Speaker 1 Number two, if you're 13 years old, why are you going to the after parties of the VMAs? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 The VMAs are over at 10, 11 o'clock. If you're 13, why are you going to the VMAs with people without parental supervision? That's me.
Some of that stuff is.

Speaker 1 I struggle with that, though.

Speaker 1 But that's a bigger door that nobody really wants to walk through. Because I...
I agree with Ish in a way. But kids sneak.

Speaker 1 Same thing with a lot of situations where it involves children or parents allowing their children to be around these adults. Serving them up on a platter.

Speaker 1 And serving them up on a platter, and no one is holding the family accountable.

Speaker 1 Hold on, hold on. I don't like this.
I don't like this. Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 Let me just say. I don't like this.
I understand what you're saying, but as someone who was 13, 14,

Speaker 1 I was outside at 11 o'clock at night at some time.

Speaker 1 And my parents might have not known. So I don't want to throw that out there.

Speaker 1 Yo, you're talking about going to a VMA after after party that is studded with celebrities and you being a 13-year-old female girl getting admission into that spot.

Speaker 1 And supposedly, she went with them allegedly. Okay.
So it's a couple things that I think are important, right?

Speaker 1 One, to Mel's question, I think, yeah, a criminal proceeding is important, but there are legitimate reasons why people file civil complaints, even if they can't. I know you're not saying they're not.

Speaker 1 I totally agree with you.

Speaker 1 I don't want people to assume that just because somebody files a a civil complaint, it's a money grab and they weren't.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, but the reality is the majority, like almost the entire reason why people file civil complaints is because the statute of limitations expires and that is their only recourse.

Speaker 1 That's real. But with sexual assault, a lot of times people also do it.
There's another reason, too.

Speaker 1 They feel like they can't get justice.

Speaker 1 People a lot of times feel like the person's not going to get prosecuted. I'm not going to get any kind of justice.
And I can hold them more accountable.

Speaker 1 Like Diddy was held more accountable from this civil thing than anything that had happened to him before, reputationally, all these other things. So there are reasons why people do it.

Speaker 1 And then to the second point, I mean, I agree as far as parenting. I would never let my 13-year-old girl go to the VMAs with Diddy, right?

Speaker 1 With any man.

Speaker 1 We're going to take that off of the data. Take Diddy off the dead, right? With anybody.

Speaker 1 I'm not letting my child, my 13-year-old daughter, go to the VMAs with Patty LaBelle and Aretha Franklin without me or my daughter's mom being pressed.

Speaker 1 You don't have to let them do that. You don't have to let them do that.
That's the thing we miss. And I'm not saying this to give credence to to anything that's because I don't believe any

Speaker 1 little bit of the lawsuit.

Speaker 1 But just from knowing other people's situation, just from being a younger child, I remember kids around my age not being let out, but they might make up stories of sneak out.

Speaker 1 I remember my mom used to let me go from the Bronx to my cousin's house in Queens and stay for the weekend on my own. Take the Q44, go over there, boom, boom, hang out.
What I did over there, she was

Speaker 1 always not known to her. So there's possibilities of where you might be telling your parents you somewhere and not be there.

Speaker 1 Dog, my cousin used to tell his moms that he was coming to our house and would tell me and my brother, yo, if my mother called, I'm there. And never showed up.

Speaker 1 We don't know his mother never knew where to put it. Let's keep this in context.
Let's keep it.

Speaker 1 You're talking about a VMA after party.

Speaker 1 Fam, you're not wearing your sweatpants and your sneakers that you walked out your house with on to the VMA after party.

Speaker 1 They switched clothes.

Speaker 1 Borrow clothes from the bottom.

Speaker 1 I with Ish. I mean, I think it's unlikely that you make it to the grandmaster of your parents.

Speaker 1 But to me, there's another piece of this, which is how the music industry works.

Speaker 1 That's what I was about to say. I was about to say that it's a deeper, it's a deeper picture.

Speaker 2 Like, how did they come into contact with each other initially?

Speaker 2 Is it the fact, was she an aspiring artist? Is that how they actually made each other's acquaintance?

Speaker 1 From what I read, it was alleged that she kind of waded out, trying to get into some shit, and the limo driver spotted her and then said, Stay here.

Speaker 1 You could come with us to the after-party or something like that. And then, on top of that, you allegedly are.
Come on, has anybody ever seen Jay-Z outside?

Speaker 1 Like, let's be clear. We all are industry.
Even if we're not industry, we're affiliated. We have two three degrees of separation.

Speaker 1 You're not just walking up to Jay-Z, my nigga. Them niggas is the size of mountains that be around Jay-Z.
You ain't hear what he said, though. The limo driver had saw a third.
Well, this was 2000.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, this is 2000. No, no, no.
2000. In 2000, Jay-Z was still walking around a little bit.
You know what I'm saying? He was. He was.

Speaker 1 Like, I was working. He was walking around with Ty Ty and them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so remember that clip that was going around talking about the time, you know, chaos and,

Speaker 2 you know, September 11th and Jay-Z's album and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 That club, he used to come to, and, like, he would be there early. And, like, he would be in my section.
We'd just sit there and chat and stuff like that because he really didn't drink.

Speaker 2 He was just buying shit for all of his friends and stuff. But the point is, is that he was not walking around the way that he walks around now.

Speaker 1 He wasn't presidential. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because I mean, this was 2000, 2001, 2002. Gotcha.

Speaker 1 Hard Knock Life sold 5 million albums

Speaker 1 in 1998.

Speaker 1 Right? So we are still talking about a successful businessman. Not saying that this man or successful businessman can't do this.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is his accessibility and the level of his accessibility. It's not just so Joe Schmo could just be like, yo, come here.
That's not happening, fam.

Speaker 1 And I walked up the hole and got an autograph in 2000, personally. Yeah.

Speaker 1 A lot of people walked up. A lot of people.
At

Speaker 1 the next game.

Speaker 1 Even the 0-5 niggas walked up to Jay-Z and

Speaker 1 I knowing them. I think we're talking about new points.
But here,

Speaker 1 wait, wait, wait. Here's the thing.
To me,

Speaker 1 there's a big point here about the music industry, which is when you got... Okay, I'm sorry.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is that it makes you look at it a little bit deeper, meaning that if you're at the door or at the VMA's after party and you're allowing two men to walk in with a 13-year-old or a girl that looks young then it's it's a way bigger picture than that that's leading on that's how I feel right this is not just it's what's what does she want this industry is full of enablers

Speaker 1 can we just have an honest moment about this industry just honestly

Speaker 1 anything that they want to happen can happen however they need it to happen. I'm not saying it's happening in these manners.
I'm not saying it's happening like exactly like that.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying this situation, and Jay spoke to it in his statement. This is fucked up because there's really things that are happening to kids like this.

Speaker 1 We've heard many stories. If you speak to almost anybody in Hollywood, the Corey's and all of them, they'll tell you that we were young kids and we were being snuck into stuff.

Speaker 1 We were being given drinks. So this is not like

Speaker 1 infathomable, but

Speaker 1 I think what Jay is saying is like, this is what's so fucked up about is that you use real life situations that actually happen into this industry and try to attach me to it.

Speaker 1 And I'm the furthest thing from that. And now I don't want to even fight the point of, well, shit like this don't happen or who the hell has a 13 year old child out? No, they be 13 year old child out.

Speaker 1 It's just don't attach my name to it. And even if I'm a fucked up parent and I sent my kid there or was irresponsible, they still shouldn't get sexually assaulted, right?

Speaker 1 And part of the problem with the music industry is a lot of time when you have young kids. And again, let me be clear.
I don't believe this accusation against Jay-Z. I actually don't believe it.

Speaker 1 I think Jay-Z probably, I think Jay-Z didn't do this. That's just my opinion.

Speaker 1 I'm going by the circumstantial evidence and my gut. I just don't believe it.
But in general, there are teenagers who want to be stars. And parents get sold a bill of goods.

Speaker 1 Yo, we're going to make your kid a big star. We're going to make him rich.
We're going to make him famous. I got your kid.
I'm in charge.

Speaker 1 And a lot of these parents put good, have good, in good faith, give their kids to these people.

Speaker 1 And that's how they end up at these award shows. That's how they end up staying at people's houses for six months.
That's how they end up getting guardianship.

Speaker 1 And that's how people's kids get molested and hurt and exploited. And I'm just saying part of it is this whole industry encourages parents to give them their children.

Speaker 1 And as parents, we got to be like, fuck no.

Speaker 1 I have a question for you. What would be the reason that this lawyer or this victim attached Jay-Z's name to this? He's a shakedown.

Speaker 1 It would be a shakedown. If that's what's happening, that would be a shakedown.
Very simple.

Speaker 1 If somebody called you right now, Flip, you as Flip, and said, yo, I heard you did some, I got some wild shit on you. I'm about to put it on the shade room.
You give me $100, I won't do it.

Speaker 1 You probably, $100 is a low enough amount of money for you that you just would give them $100, so you ain't got to deal with the accusations.

Speaker 1 Mark, can we speak to the fact that I think a lot of these lawyers now, they just as savvy as the information and stuff that's being spread online and on YouTube and all the other shit that they'll just like when this the puff shit first started coming out, you had these little think pieces of people trying to now attach Jay to it.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's his friend. And I think they'd be like, oh, you know what?

Speaker 1 That does make a little sense. I could kind of tie that in.
I think that's what that is.

Speaker 1 And then to the artist, to most people, or a lot of the celebrities, I said, not most, what happens is you weigh it. All right, is it worth me fighting this? Or if I just pay it and make it go away?

Speaker 1 True or not, what am I at risk at? Because now I've seen people online tagging the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yo, y'all need to sever your business deals with him.

Speaker 1 If you're Jay-Z, you might be like, yo, I don't need this headache right now.

Speaker 1 And this is what the lawyer, I'm talking about, I don't believe none of this shit either, but this is what the lawyer is thinking.

Speaker 1 Hey, he got too much going on where if this come across his desk, he's just going to sign off. And yo, let's just get rid of it.
Sign an NDA. It never happened.
And we just came up on some money.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 The hope is that he's going to settle to avoid even just the circus of, you know, the court of public opinion.

Speaker 1 Public scrutiny. Yeah.
But the problem with that is if you do that and the information somehow comes out at some point, now you look

Speaker 1 at it.

Speaker 1 Which is an admission of guilt in some people's heart. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you think that the NFL tries to sabotage with Jay? No, no. No.
No. I think anybody with a brain kind of

Speaker 1 can see a little bit through this. Or maybe just don't believe it.
Let's hold on. Let's just be fair.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's our opinion. That's That's my opinion.
But we don't know for sure nothing. Correct.
I don't put nothing past nobody. Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 His character and the things that he has shown us thus far, I would want to believe in that. But I've been disappointed by other people in the past.

Speaker 1 So I'm prepared for, even with the words that he said,

Speaker 1 he's a clever man. So don't get me wrong.
If he wanted to lie and make it sound good, he know how to do it.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying I believe that. I'm just saying I want to leave enough room for if at some point

Speaker 1 one of my heroes disappoints me, I'm not now looking like

Speaker 1 or you know what else the lawyer could look at it is: you probably didn't do this, but you got something.

Speaker 1 And usually, once the floodgates open, the rest of them come. So, whatever you do got back there, you might want to settle this just to keep it from going out.
Yeah, because when you said

Speaker 1 it could be something just to see.

Speaker 1 You said earlier about, you know, with the Diddy shit, yeah, there's been questionable things.

Speaker 1 You said, yo, with Jay,

Speaker 1 I disagree. To me, there are some things that if I wanted to pick at and question pass-wise, I could.
That would just be me picking for straws.

Speaker 1 But we've heard stories about, you know, Foxy shit and the questions about

Speaker 1 it. But, but, but, all right, now, if I take that example with someone like Michael, Michael was accused by something.

Speaker 1 Someone said at a certain point he never did nothing. And then years later came back and said, well, actually, that was a lie.
I was just saying that. And he actually did.
I'm just,

Speaker 1 it hates for me to have to try to see things on both sides just because I don't want to lean on the possibility that none of this shit could be.

Speaker 1 Because it's hero worship, too. At some point, it's like, I don't want to believe that my favorite singer, rapper, athlete, whatever did something.

Speaker 1 I'm more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt. In this case, I think the evidence isn't really there.
But in general,

Speaker 1 because I don't want to stop listening to certain albums. I don't want to stop a certain game.
I didn't watch the football game and I didn't watch the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Because I'm like, I don't watch the NFL anymore than Colin Kaepernick. It's like, if I stand on a principle, I don't want to rock with it no more.
So I don't need nobody else.

Speaker 1 Because when I read that lawsuit, it had two,

Speaker 1 it had Diddy, didn't it mention Jay-Z eventually, but it also said an unnamed woman, an RB singer. I don't know who it is.

Speaker 1 I don't want to speculate, but I was sitting there like, please don't let it be nobody that you love.

Speaker 1 Don't let it be the person in my head, but also, please don't let it be nobody that I love because I can't go with them three, four albums. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, because we want to.

Speaker 1 I think I know. Yeah, I hope it's not.
I hope it's not.

Speaker 2 Well, he says that he wants the person to come forward. So at the time, they were 13.
Now they're, you know, probably they're in their 30s.

Speaker 2 So do you think

Speaker 1 they're more 40?

Speaker 2 Do you think that that's like a legitimate ask?

Speaker 1 I do. I mean,

Speaker 1 Jane Doe laws are for a reason. It's to shield people from power dynamics, from power, from harassment.
They're legitimate. There's a reason why people have that.

Speaker 2 Wouldn't this classify exactly as that? Power dynamics and

Speaker 1 maybe, maybe. But at 37, at least you have an argument.

Speaker 1 Whereas if she were 13 I'd say no keep that child's name out but at 37 I mean there's a conversation to be because I can't investigate I can't find any counter evidence I can't do anything to defend myself if I don't know who I'm fighting against right that's the hard part it has it has to be fair for everybody so in my opinion that that

Speaker 1 just solidifies a money grab for me

Speaker 1 that solidifies a money grab if you did something to me and I want to look in the eye of my accuser and say yo y'all remember when I was blah blah blah blah blah y'all did that shit

Speaker 1 that's that's my stance y'all did that y'all remember me yeah i'm back y'all did that especially today fam in the climate we in now i'm not beat this would be you know what i'm saying like a couple years ago i get it but the way is moving today

Speaker 1 it's almost like you damn near protect you're not being ashamed

Speaker 1 as the accused 100 if you're accused of that i'm on the same topic Who are you?

Speaker 1 Let's

Speaker 1 deserve that. For the accuser.

Speaker 1 I want you to. For the accuser who might not want to deal with the public scrutiny of not everyone knowing your name and the name.
And the victim blaming. I'm just saying that's a side of it.

Speaker 1 If it's a real accuser, they might choose to go that route because they don't want to deal with the backlash that now comes with convicting or accusing someone's hero.

Speaker 1 That could be a natural stance that people take. I mean, if I'm a victim of Diddy and y'all telling me he's blowing up people's cars and putting hits on people, these are all allegations.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying that you are not. I'm just saying, if I heard all that, I might not want you knowing my name.
For sure.

Speaker 1 You know, the sad part about it is that a lot of

Speaker 1 if they're lying, it takes away from the real victims that's going through things. And that's what I hate.
Of course, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 I mean, SA, I mean, a lot of things that were tolerated back in the days are no longer tolerated. And this is, I'm not.

Speaker 1 Co-signing it, but there were things that you were able to get away with back in the days that you're no longer able to get away with now.

Speaker 1 And it doesn't take away from the fact that it was wrong back then.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is that there are real victims out here going through real things and that are scared to talk and can't talk because of intimidation.

Speaker 1 And then we have situations like this where they use the essay

Speaker 1 or all these

Speaker 1 negative things that are done to women and children to put it on somebody that may have nothing to do with it. And what does that say? Right?

Speaker 1 What are you telling the people? And what are you telling the victims? Now, if we find out that it's a lie on Jay-Z, what about the other people that has been scared to come forward?

Speaker 1 It creates the boy that cried wolf effect. Exactly.
To where this person was lying, this person is lying, this person is lying.

Speaker 1 So the person that is telling the truth now gets taken with a grain of salt.

Speaker 2 It does them such a disservice.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that's my problem with it. It's a lot.

Speaker 1 You know, we know a lot of people, Ish, and Mark, and we know a lot of women that experience things that don't talk about it. And they're afraid to talk about it.

Speaker 1 And we know that time and time again, we know that, like, we know. And they don't talk about it.
And

Speaker 1 this do them any justice?

Speaker 1 Because what happens is now, if they find out that this person is lying and there was, it's a money grab, all it does is put the system on and put the people on public perception.

Speaker 1 Now, we're not gonna no longer believe anyone. Can I mention to my biggest problem?

Speaker 1 And well, not my biggest problem, but one of the problems I really have with a lot of this is when I hear about these kids going through these things and their parents, no, like in the situation in the lawsuit, the young lady said that her dad came and picked her up

Speaker 1 and like knew, like came and picked her up at from a gas station or something. She remembered the gas station passed, made it back to the gas station.
Yo, as a father, as a father, as

Speaker 1 anybody, I couldn't bear to know that a kid just went through some shit like that and then we just going back home.

Speaker 2 Did she tell her, did she say she told her father at the gas station when he picked her up, or did she hold on to the paper?

Speaker 1 I'm going to stand corrected, but I do believe she did say that within the lawsuit that he knew and he just decided to take her back home.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 even,

Speaker 1 let's just say, even in the situation of

Speaker 1 a R. Kelly,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 Something happened with him and someone that passed. And just to be honorable to her name, I'm not going to say, but people know who we're speaking about.

Speaker 1 When it was found out by the parents, they decided, you know what, we're going to handle this in a more calm discreet. Yo, that's not me.
Fuck your music career.

Speaker 1 Fuck the money we're going to get from this.

Speaker 1 Fuck what this nigga needs to be held accountable because if you stop it at that point, we probably don't even get to this point of all the other people who are fucked up and affected by it.

Speaker 1 So as parents, like at what point do you just decide, yo, fuck materialistic shit, fuck a name, yo, I need to honor my child's innocence and hold them down even in moments of the moment.

Speaker 2 A lot of times a parent will look at the grand scheme of the entire thing and say, she's already been put through enough and I don't want to put her through,

Speaker 2 you know, the trauma of a trial accusing somebody who is regarded as this huge entity.

Speaker 2 Because first of all, when it comes to sexual assault and rape cases, like what, 2% of them actually are prosecutable and

Speaker 2 receive a conviction?

Speaker 2 The rest of them like literally are acquitted or don't even make it past the accusations.

Speaker 1 If I had to go through that and I had to watch my parent make that decision for me, for me, I'm going to grow up and I'm going to look at my parent different.

Speaker 1 This could have been a conversation that they had together. Since the beginning of the time, parents have been selling their kids off.
But that's the other part of it.

Speaker 1 Because when you look at all those R. Kelly stories, so many of the parents, it's one thing

Speaker 1 if, like, I don't know, 12 plays out and you having him take care of your kid, but Chocolate Factory come out and you still like saying R. Kelly can mentor my kid.

Speaker 1 You know what's going on. You know what I mean? And that's what was happening.

Speaker 1 Parents have their own agendas. They often have their agendas.

Speaker 1 They weren't confused about that. So that's why, you know, I struggle with it.
I mean, I don't, it's hard for me to have empathy for a parent that's giving their kid to the system at all in that way.

Speaker 1 I can't defend it. It's sad.
The grandest scheme would be protecting your child no matter what.

Speaker 1 It goes back to my point that

Speaker 1 my kids can't be outside with nobody. For sure.
Man, woman, boy, girl, like, I'm not allowing my kids to be outside

Speaker 1 with somebody that I love and respect. Again, it could be a woman.
I'm not letting my daughter just go with another woman without some parental supervision.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but when it comes to some of these parents, like

Speaker 2 some of them can be groupies themselves.

Speaker 1 Most of them are.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so that's what kind of makes the whole situation worse.

Speaker 1 That's been, sorry, man, but that's been going on, like I said, for a long time where parents are selling their kids. Like,

Speaker 1 they feel like they're living their second childhood through their child. Living vicariously through their children.
Yeah. So, well, prayers to all involved.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We don't really know too much more, so it ain't really. You know,

Speaker 1 it's unfortunate, but yeah. Prayers to everybody involved.
We got anything lighter, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You wanted to start there to get it out of the way. I didn't know he was doing it.
I thought it was going to be a quick news brief, right?

Speaker 1 It's not going to be quick with Jay. You can't be quick with Jay.
You can't do that, man.

Speaker 1 Did y'all?

Speaker 1 All right, well, we take something a little lighter. And on the music side, Sizza announces a new project, and she dropped that video clip, too.
Yeah, she was pissing in the woods. Okay, hold on.

Speaker 2 I didn't see it. So

Speaker 2 somebody make that makes sense. I don't understand.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you. Okay.
She's in the woods. Yes.

Speaker 1 She took a piss.

Speaker 1 She dropped the pants and

Speaker 1 she squatted. She popped the squat.
She popped the squatted. That was streamed.
And this was her album announcement? What's the name of the singer? That was a Ray J stories? No. Pissing in the woods.

Speaker 1 Can't see the forest for the forest.

Speaker 1 The project is called La Vana SOS Deluxe. It's a deluxe.
It's a 10th, I think it's a two-year anniversary of the SOS album, and she's putting out a deluxe for it. So the promotion for it was her.

Speaker 1 She said clock starts now. Listen, I ain't seen no PP drop.

Speaker 1 She's wiping, though. She's down there.
She's squatting.

Speaker 1 She's in the woods. I don't see no P, but SOS, nigga, it's the emergency.

Speaker 1 It's implied.

Speaker 1 Don't hold it no more.

Speaker 1 So I don't know what's the symbolism behind that, but... She wiping, too.
She just told you, SOS, nigga, I got to go. What'd she wipe with? Toilet paper.
She put some toilets on.

Speaker 1 She put some toilet peepee pee on. I'm a white man.
So she brought toilet paper to the woods. See how toilet.
And she didn't litter. Little female.
She kept it. She put it back in her bag.

Speaker 1 A little feminine wipe.

Speaker 1 Got a lot. I peeped.
I was like, if she's gonna litter, I'm gonna get on her ass.

Speaker 1 It could have been a biodegradable.

Speaker 1 That's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 That's true. And she ain't wash her hands, though.
And she was right there by the stream.

Speaker 1 She definitely should have rinsed in the stream. I'm a little disgusted by that.
Yo, what? I personally don't have a problem with it.

Speaker 1 I'll let it fly. I don't care.
I've done worse. I love scissors.
I've seen women do worse. I've done women that's done worse.

Speaker 1 Some people are into that, right? Golden showers, you freaks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 1 Why y'all look into that? I'm not having a golden shower. You clean.

Speaker 1 You should be like that.

Speaker 1 On the bench?

Speaker 1 On the bed, freeze?

Speaker 1 Moisturizer.

Speaker 1 I like that. I respect that.

Speaker 1 Don't look at me. Shout out to Freeze, you fucking freak.

Speaker 1 That's the dye you be using.

Speaker 1 Here's how I get it out. Niggas are too quiet, niggas.
Don't be quiet.

Speaker 1 You beer ain't black today.

Speaker 1 You got to

Speaker 1 piss it out.

Speaker 1 You ever had a golden shower-ish?

Speaker 1 What about you, Mark? Nope. Oh, that's what we going? All right.
I'm just saying, it's not my bag, friend. It's not your bag.
No, you gave one before? Nah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can't. Yeah, I mean, I mean, you had to

Speaker 1 drink.

Speaker 1 Yo, this nigga. Be in my face, baby.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 We was in the shower, and

Speaker 1 she asked for it. She asked.
What am I going to do? She asked you to pee on. I had to go anyway.
Right, but she's just going to be a bitch.

Speaker 1 She asked you to pee on them.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 It's too early for this. All right.
It's too early for this.

Speaker 1 It is early. It's too early for the morning.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 I'm looking forward to the scissors.

Speaker 1 But it's on the brand. Absolutely.
It's on brand. It's on brand for y'all.
Real quick. It's on brand for y'all.
All right. We move from the bottom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we want to talk about scissors, music.

Speaker 1 Shout out to scissors.

Speaker 1 Shout out to scissors. Shout out to scissors.

Speaker 1 She can do whatever she want. Kind of.
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 1 And before this tour, I mean, it's perfect time, right? Perfect time.

Speaker 1 I went to the the movies the other day, too.

Speaker 1 What'd you go see? Gladiator. She has a trailer with me.
She got a trailer. Keeky Pummel.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's Kiki Palmer show.
She looks funny.

Speaker 1 Like it's going to be funny. I didn't know.

Speaker 1 I don't even know what the movie is about.

Speaker 1 I'm going to watch.

Speaker 1 But you're in there, though. I didn't care what the movie was about.
I was just looking at the trailer, trailing her.

Speaker 2 It's a female buddy comedy.

Speaker 1 It's going to be buddy buddy and everything.

Speaker 1 My buddy. My buddy and me.
Kid sister.

Speaker 1 Yo, what? Well, they say there's going to be 10 songs?

Speaker 2 10 extra songs?

Speaker 1 Is it 10? Oh, no. I don't know how many.
Oh, they specified it. They just said it was.
They just said the deluxe.

Speaker 1 I bet it's going to be long.

Speaker 1 I don't care how many songs it is. I'm still going to go listen to it.

Speaker 1 Anybody watch Doshi's Titanic? Yes. I didn't.
Oh.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to hold you fan.

Speaker 2 The best one of 2024.

Speaker 1 Dog.

Speaker 1 I got to go back and look at the title.

Speaker 1 That's mine.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's my

Speaker 2 best.

Speaker 1 I didn't watch the whole thing. She might, she has, from first look, I'm trying to think of who had a better one than she did.
I can't really think of it. I'm making a prediction.

Speaker 1 I think she's gonna win. I think she's gonna win that Grammy.

Speaker 1 Which one is she nominated for? New artist, right? No,

Speaker 1 well, I think that she's already already already.

Speaker 1 I think it's best rap album. I don't think she's gonna win it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you what I think. Just to be nominated is amazing.
I mean, fam, absolutely. Your first like real project? That's a big deal.
My nigga. She's talented.

Speaker 1 To follow the people that have already had a tiny desk and do what she did. Yeah.
Fam, she was up there comfortable. Like, I own this bitch.
Really? For sure, for sure. Like, she went crazy.

Speaker 1 But that's why, when we spoke about just how TDE works, they artists and stuff. I try to remove that somewhat because you could tell she came to them hungry.
A little pilot.

Speaker 1 And a little bit potentially. And then I saw some stuff she did before.
She was working before that. She was working.
You know what I'm saying? It reminded me early, like...

Speaker 1 Azalea Banks-ish a little bit. Bright lights is still bright lights, though.
No, I know. And everybody don't respond well to the bright lights.
She commanded the tiny desk.

Speaker 1 She really did. Like, she was Nikki.
She's a star in the making. Like, all just for sure.
Like, you thought, like, she was up there, like, nigga,

Speaker 1 this is my third time on the ball.

Speaker 2 And the all-black female band and backup singers.

Speaker 1 And just with the break.

Speaker 2 It was so beautiful. She went crazy.

Speaker 1 You know what I love the most about her? It's her look.

Speaker 1 Me too. Her look.
That to me is so important. Her comedy.

Speaker 1 Just in just the stardom of just a new rap star. It's not overdone.
It's chocolate. It represents something higher than what we...

Speaker 1 That to me is the most fire part of it. like, the statement within that.
Yo, even when she came here, a lot of people come here and they're a little apprehensive. She came, like, what up, y'all?

Speaker 1 What up, y'all? Like, she came in this motherfucker, like, we knew her since she was three. Like, she came in here on some confident, comfortable shit, and that's fire.

Speaker 1 It translated right in that room. She's gonna be around for the longest.
She's on the hell of a trajectory. Yeah, she's going crazy.

Speaker 1 That's a perfect situation of someone who was ready for it, meeting someone that can handle it. That can handle it.

Speaker 2 And timing meets opportunity.

Speaker 1 Cultivated. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Another dope woman doing some summer walker announced she got a uh over it radio on apple music dropping first episode is on uh friday dope i'm looking forward to it yeah i like the apple radio a lot i love it i love it too i've been doing i've been doing a lot lately so i'm looking forward to that and hopefully some new music soon so i think it'd be dope because we kind of like struggled kind of getting in touch with her personality a little bit and she's also spoken about like having that kind of like anxiety and anxiety shit so the fact that artists are finding new ways to get in touch touch with their fan base without having to really buy.

Speaker 1 Fire. You got to.

Speaker 1 It's smart. It's dope.
Fire. Very fire.

Speaker 1 Is there anything else in music? J. Cole.
Anything new drive? Yeah, nigga. Cole.
J. Cole just dropped.
10th anniversary, man.

Speaker 1 10th anniversary of Forest Hills Drive. Okay.

Speaker 1 He added, how many new records? I think it was eight. Yeah, I think it's eight new records.
What Cole is doing with that, what is it, Inevitable? Inevitable, yeah. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Like, even the show he has coming up of December 16th at the Garden, they're live streaming it free for everyone who is a member of the inevitable

Speaker 1 and anyone that purchases Forest Hills Drive. Like, he's found a new direct-to-consumer way that is,

Speaker 1 they just on some other shit with it. Every introvert should do this.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it gives you control. It still gives you a way to tap in, but you still get to keep your

Speaker 1 secrets.

Speaker 1 And how's the podcast been doing, Paul?

Speaker 1 I don't know how it's been doing. I've been listening.

Speaker 1 I will say, I wish they gave us a little more time between drops. I don't know what the cadence is, but I'm just behind because it's hard to keep up.
They're long.

Speaker 1 They're two and a half hours at times, two hours. It's audio only, right? Audio only.
And the app, there's no app actually.

Speaker 1 It's just on the web browser, and when you close your phone, it cuts off, which is a little annoying. But that being said, the content is amazing.

Speaker 1 And just the reinvigoration of his old catalog to me is brilliant. And

Speaker 1 if anybody is out there that's like an up-and-coming rapper or wants to be in the business, a manager, this is like a textbook study in Game Don, basically really work ethic you do you feel like him backing out the battle had any effect on anything that he's doing right now not really no hell no no no not really

Speaker 1 it gave him like a wide berth to actually create and not be involved in the bullshit now i want to take back all that bullshit i said i'm glad he backed out me too i'm glad it seemed like cole's walking away you don't think that this is this is um

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 kind of catapulted them into this this to show y'all what my personality is really really like to show y'all I wasn't on that type of time i think that this was i think him backing out of the battle was knowing that this was coming because they were even talking in this they're referencing a lot of i think they did during the pandemic or maybe 2021 or 2022 something like that so they've had this for a while this is obviously a plan that they had to roll out for a minute so i'm sure that he looked at the battle was like i got some coming i'm not i'm not doing that right now and again 10th anniversary i got anniversaries coming up with this and that like yo i don't want none of that That's a negative mark on what I'm trying to do.

Speaker 1 To me, this looks like Cole's, this is the farewell tour. All of this.
This looks like I'm setting it up to leave. I'm giving you the back catalog.
I'm giving y'all the old shit on streaming.

Speaker 1 I'm going back, giving you bonus records on each, all of this projects. To leave?

Speaker 1 I think Cole is setting up for post-rap. That could be shit.

Speaker 1 This is me making my way to my exit,

Speaker 1 which will be the fall off album. And then I'm done.

Speaker 1 He's probably 39, maybe. He's about that age.

Speaker 1 I go back to that

Speaker 1 whiteboard thing he had, or it was like a list he had put up where he was like, I got the features done. I got this done.
I got this done.

Speaker 1 Like, he has a plan of, I want to hit these check marks, and then I'm out of here. And now I can be exec Cole.

Speaker 1 I've never met him, but his personality is definitely one that I could see walking away from. all of the ills of the music and entertainment business.
Getting

Speaker 1 Andre 3000 shit. Yeah, like

Speaker 1 I said,

Speaker 1 I don't mean never rap again. I'm just saying I'm no longer actively super go super.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 I get a lot from. I think a lot of it, too, that I get is in terms of discography is

Speaker 1 it feels like he regrets kind of how the beginning went. So I think this is kind of his way of going back to it because it sounds like he was moving and moving and moving.

Speaker 1 He wanted his first album to be a classic. He ended up using the songs from that for the first, well, the second two mixtapes.

Speaker 1 I think this is a way of him saying, you know what, let's try to give these more attention than they probably got at that time.

Speaker 1 Which I love and respect.

Speaker 1 It makes sense. And we're in the streaming era now.
So, you know, a lot of this stuff, I mean, we don't, but there's people that solely rely on streaming.

Speaker 1 So it's like, this is a brand new introduction to a lot of them.

Speaker 1 You know, I remember back when Drake did it with So Far Gone, when that hit streaming, there were people that's literally listening to this for the first time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So there's people that's heard about these projects, but everybody ain't running the YouTube. That piff ain't around no more.
So it's like, where can I even hear it?

Speaker 1 So now Cole's gotten to a space where. I can clear whatever I got to clear.
I could do this, that, and the third. And now I can deliver these projects on streaming.

Speaker 1 I just got to make it make sense for me. And my fan base is crazy.
So now it's going to be new shit to them. Yeah.
Yeah. They might have never heard before.

Speaker 1 I love the way he's moving. The only thing I didn't love the battle situation, but outside of that, I love the way he's moving.
I love the way he pursues his dreams.

Speaker 1 I love the way he's like, this is the kind of music I want to make. I want to go play basketball this month.
You know, whatever he wants to do, he does it.

Speaker 1 That's why I don't like when people, because now when I think about it, if Cole is involved in that battle situation, I don't think it's as

Speaker 1 don't get me wrong, we're going to have some amazing other records from him, but I do think that was a moment where you clear out.

Speaker 1 Like this, this moment is a little bigger than we trying to decide who's the bigger of the big three. Like,

Speaker 1 this is, but this is okay with, my thing is not, you got a battle, just don't start and then back out. Well, that's true.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 If he had said, if he had said, I'm above the fray, I'm not getting none of this shit, I think he would have looked cool as hell. But that's why I, I'm sorry, that's, that's why I do understand

Speaker 1 he was like, yo, I let people gas me up. That wasn't even me.
Like, I ain't want to do that. I let niggas gas me up.
My man called me. We have a one-on-one and it's like, you know what?

Speaker 1 You write my bad. And I'm going to make it right and apologize to you publicly and leave.
I don't want nothing to do this in closing yeah man

Speaker 1 do you think that kendrick called him up and said step aside yes i think i think he spoke to both of them i think that he spoke to both of them and saw how serious they were about to go at each other

Speaker 1 i think they like i don't believe that kendrick shit that i always saying what i think that they both of them niggas wanted to take each other's heads off and i think he saw that it was personal and it was serious coming from both sides what kendrick shit i'm always saying about uh he wouldn't have said this if homeboy ain't say that i think all that shit was already ready to go but i think think he had to go either way.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
But I'm saying I think he spoke to them. It's like if Imani and Parks is beefing, and I'm in the middle, like, yo, we talk, and Parks, like, no, I'm ready to kill this nigga.

Speaker 1 And Imani's like, no, I'm ready to kill this nigga. And I don't feel like that about neither one of them.
I fucked with both of them.

Speaker 1 I'm going to step back and let them go at it because I think it's past rap. Right.
So I think that's what he did after speaking to them. And yes, I also think that he spoke to them.

Speaker 1 And if you listen to the heart, heart part six on GNX, I think the last part of the third verse, he's kind of saying that.

Speaker 1 Okay. But yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, it's that time of the show.
I know Joe's not here, but. Wait, what time of the show? My favorite part of the show.

Speaker 1 The time of the show that you watched. You wish mine.
Mine's too.

Speaker 1 You wish you had a clock on that time of the show. I wish you had what-ish?

Speaker 1 A clock on that time.

Speaker 1 It's cool. Come on, he's not here.
So what? So? You know what time it is. Now it's part of it.

Speaker 1 It's bad.

Speaker 1 Y'all can't even let me do it properly. No, he said.

Speaker 1 I started stuffing. Allie, you put something to Airlines.
We had to do it.

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That's what I'm saying. I respect it.
Yeah, all right. Thank you.
But my intros have to be a little bit better. Cross.
Go ahead, Joe, help us. I can't.

Speaker 1 They already got Druski. Oh,

Speaker 1 on that note.

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Speaker 1 Yo, man, and crazy nigga news. You know what I mean? Yo, yo, yo, hold on, hold on, before we do that, man.
I got a call coming in that we want to get to real fast. What type of call?

Speaker 1 We got Max B live on the phone, man.

Speaker 1 Big Avelle, Big Avelle.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 1 What's good, beloved Al, Al.

Speaker 5 What's good, people? Wave Daddy in the building.

Speaker 1 Wave God, what's up? Yeah, Al, what's good, man? How you feeling?

Speaker 1 Feeling righteous, man.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 I'm doing all right, man. Shit almost over.
Walking this thing down one day at a time. We grinding.
Anything good? Huh? Wavy baby coming back soon.

Speaker 5 Wavy baby coming home real soon.

Speaker 1 Do we have a date yet?

Speaker 5 We got a date. I be on November 9th, 2025.

Speaker 5 This is the first definitive answer y'all got from me. So you already know.
Nigga, look it up. It's on the computer.
It's in the system. I'm good.
Everything is wavy. Everything is on the way.

Speaker 5 The Mawa, Mawa is the movement. We making America wavy again.

Speaker 1 Max, how your spirit, now that you got the release date, what's your thought process just preparing for be out back out here with us?

Speaker 5 Listen, man, listen. You know,

Speaker 5 normally, normally, I'm going to give you some real shit. Normally, a nigga in my circumstances, with the amount of time I did,

Speaker 5 would be taking this time,

Speaker 5 taking turtle steps, but not the boss dawn. I'm diving in here first, nigga.
We waving

Speaker 1 Yeah, man, it's a lot of

Speaker 1 head first. It's a lot of records out here that that

Speaker 1 you missed on, bro. It's a lot a lot of that wave is missing.

Speaker 5 Listen, man, we on divine time.

Speaker 5 I'm working. I can't wait to get re-acclimated.
And then here's the thing. You already know I'm a musical genius myself, so niggas got to get re-acclimated with my shit.

Speaker 1 So it's always going to be some challenge.

Speaker 5 I love a good challenge. And it's for the game.
I'm with the game. They're missing, baby.
I'm the trench setter. So, shit, I'm back, nigga.
I'm coming back. We're going to add that Max Pickaway.

Speaker 1 That way, got music.

Speaker 5 Shout out to the Don Montana. What's good, baby?

Speaker 1 I see you.

Speaker 1 Yo, Max,

Speaker 1 a little silly question.

Speaker 1 Outside of the obvious things that you're going to want to partake in when you first touch down, what's the one thing you're looking forward to doing when you get back out?

Speaker 5 Look, on some real shit, just to have a nice dinner with the family, the kids, you know what I'm saying? Eat, pray, love, just be around. Hey, have all my loved ones, all my day ones in one room.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 5 And then that shit, everybody pulling up with the bags. And I'm gonna go get some pussy.

Speaker 1 Hell, nigga, wavy, nigga. I told you head first, nigga.
Hell.

Speaker 1 Hey, bigger man.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Any artists you looking forward to working with when you touch down? Any certain people that you looking like directly want to work with?

Speaker 5 Listen, I can't even, I'm not going to even put myself in the box. It's all going to run concurrent.
I can't wait to get in the studio with a lot of artists out there.

Speaker 5 It's too many to name, but look, I'm going to tell you this: the big names, the head hard shows. I'm looking forward to working with the big names, they had hard shows.

Speaker 5 I'm not gonna put myself in the box, you know. I'm saying, I'm open for all that, but they gotta be A-list.
I'm with A-list.

Speaker 1 If this shit ain't A-list, I can't fuck with you.

Speaker 1 We ain't doing that. Boy, you're doing high-end shit, beat.
Fuck with your boy.

Speaker 1 You doing A-list all-end, B.

Speaker 1 So, November 9th,

Speaker 1 November 9th, 2025, you'll be home, man. Lock it in.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we can't wait to see you. I know that, you know, shout out to friends.
Shout out to everybody that's, you know, that's around and a part of the team. You sound like you're in great spirits, man.

Speaker 1 And it's good to hear that. It's good to hear that.
You're in great spirits.

Speaker 5 I'm feeling righteous. I'm feeling righteous.
God is good. He's been holding me up.

Speaker 1 I'm clean.

Speaker 5 I'm in the gym. I'm working out.
I got my weight up. I'm drinking Kool-Aid.

Speaker 1 I feel great. I can't wait.

Speaker 1 This shit going to be beautiful.

Speaker 5 I'm trying to tell you, niggas, I'm trying to to tell you, niggas, this is what you've been missing. The Mag to B movie coming soon, nigga.

Speaker 1 Shit gonna be crazy, nigga.

Speaker 5 We out here. We out here.

Speaker 1 All right, Max. All right, man.

Speaker 1 Yo, we appreciate you calling in, bigger val. We appreciate you.

Speaker 5 Listen, I love the people. My was the movement.
Black French, I love my niggas. We moving.
Cameron Sybil, I see you. Al, we Lou B.
We on the way. Don Coney, I'm coming soon, November 9th, 2025.

Speaker 5 Yo, Joe Buddha, holding down, nigga, I'm out. Al, wave off, signing out.

Speaker 1 Peace.

Speaker 1 Magio. That's Max Pillio.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That was dope. That was dope.

Speaker 1 That's the best question to ask Big of L. Can't wait to hit on somebody's word.
That he's coming out with. Make sure you say

Speaker 1 one of the first things he's doing, though. Oh, yeah.
I'm going to crack some of that. Oh, for sure.
He got a cracks on it. 20 years? No, the political correct shit was yo.

Speaker 1 Look, good dinner, my family. Right.

Speaker 1 And be clear, they lining up for him. They waiting for him.
Yeah, they are. Hey, fam.
He was a

Speaker 1 mighty leave the spot and go right to the

Speaker 1 young man. It's coming there.

Speaker 1 You're going to bring your camera in there, nigga.

Speaker 1 I'm going right there, Walker, my back. Walk on, you back? Yo.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 right there. Yeah, you know what's so crazy? Right there.
Yo, you a pervert, son. Far from it.
You got to get rid of that shit. You know what you said? I thought you would get out yourself.

Speaker 1 Far from the top of the perverse. I'm a racist.
Which one? He both.

Speaker 1 I'm not. He don't discriminate, nigga.
That shit is not either one. That Wang Wang don't discriminate

Speaker 1 Did you go for an update on your um on getting the uh the laser joint you went you updated it nah I ain't been there in a while oh shit did it grow out what we talked about

Speaker 1 he had his bikini line lasered Oh, wait, wait, wait, you did the bikini too? I thought you did. He went he got the whole shit.
He got the whole shit done.

Speaker 2 I don't know, man. Right up the butt crack.

Speaker 1 That's cruel.

Speaker 1 It's true. You see, male, I see why.
You're right.

Speaker 1 I want to shoot. Hey, yo, do your wife, she like do your girl like you be slapping your ass randomly and shit like that? She do that to you on play those type of games? All girls do.
Yes.

Speaker 1 So she'd be like, girl, come up behind you.

Speaker 1 All that does.

Speaker 1 You had to clean it up to give us

Speaker 1 some space to get her shit off.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What is he? A queen swipe? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, you're the money man. Yo, she hit you with the

Speaker 1 Nelly? Oh, shit. I don't even know what that is.
The credit card is the same.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 You got to go hip ass because it ain't your face. He went to

Speaker 1 the shit. Oh, shit.
Is your tip drill?

Speaker 1 My nigga ish. That's crazy.
No, but you ain't going back because you completed your whole sessions? Nah, nah, nah. You're supposed to go six times.
Yeah. Wait, so it's like permanent.

Speaker 2 Can I take the rest of your sessions?

Speaker 1 Hold on. What?

Speaker 1 Wait, no, no.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold on, hold on. Begging Billy.
Sit your ass down.

Speaker 1 Please, sir. I want my ass crack.
Please, sir. I mean, I do.

Speaker 1 Can she get the rest of your sessions? I mean, yo, Mel, get it. Oh, man.
I'm going to get the rest of my sessions. You know, that's a procrastinator right here.
He ain't going. But you got six left.

Speaker 1 Procrastinator is an ass cracker. You got four left.

Speaker 1 If you don't use them, just pass one out to each member. I don't want that shit.
I don't want your hand-me-down ass cracks.

Speaker 1 Yo, you get some free landscaping on me.

Speaker 1 Use promo codes.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 Go finish, get your shit done, bro. It's not a priority for me, Aki.
I'm going to get there though. Did it hurt, though? Did it hurt? Nah.
Oh, it didn't, bro.

Speaker 1 They numbed your ass?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 You got to take pain.

Speaker 1 You taking that white shit to another level. You just took the pain, give it to me.
It don't hurt. Lasering?

Speaker 2 They didn't put any numbing cream?

Speaker 1 No. No, okay.

Speaker 1 You a free manly man, right?

Speaker 1 You a grizzly.

Speaker 2 It doesn't exactly hurt, but it it just feels like little rubber bands snapping.

Speaker 1 That sounds like it hurts. That sounds like, yeah, that's not hurt.

Speaker 2 Well, you know, I'm a woman, so we have a very high tolerance for pain, so I don't really know what to say about that.

Speaker 1 You know what? Let's move on.

Speaker 1 I like pain. Hey, yo, and dumb nigga news.

Speaker 1 In your hometown, I was about to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Nigga did 24 years,

Speaker 1 got exonerated, won a $4.1 million lawsuit, and now he's going back to jail for killing a man over $1,200 worth of cocaine. Man, round of applause for this idiot.
I don't know if.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 Let's defend that.

Speaker 1 That's not the proper.

Speaker 1 Is that what happened? Yeah, yeah. Yes, nigga.
That's what happened. Yeah.
I thought it was over a dice game. No,

Speaker 1 of course you put all of us blacks with dice. Of course, you stopped, man.
Come on,

Speaker 1 come back home, nigga. Yeah, Mark, what's up? I ain't got no excuse for that shit.
Stupid shit. I'm going to start saying you from Delaware or or some shit.

Speaker 1 I'll say that. I heard you.
Don't say that. I got to.
That shit tried to slip out. I counted the room.
I was like, yeah,

Speaker 1 I'll put that nigga on these niggas. I hate that, but I hear that story so many times.
It was a dude. 24 years, though, you already institutional.
And you got 4.1. What do you got?

Speaker 1 You're not playing them games.

Speaker 1 A Philadelphia man who was exonerated and awarded... $4.1 million settlement after serving 24 years for a wrongful murder conviction is now headed back to prison for killing a man over 20

Speaker 1 over $1,200 cocaine debt. But the two things I say.
One, that's a reminder that some people who are wrongfully convicted are actually just misconvicted. Like, yo, like,

Speaker 1 I didn't do that crime, but I might have killed three other people, just the one I got exonerated for, the one I didn't do. I'm just saying, like, sometimes that's how it goes.

Speaker 1 No, I think after serving 24 years in jail, and that's the second part, you become

Speaker 1 an animal. It's criminogenic.
It creates, it makes you criminal. But if you get a 4.1 million joint and you go back and put it in the streets, that's the part that

Speaker 1 is the debt.

Speaker 1 That's not true, bro. That's not true.

Speaker 1 Cocaine might have been for him. I ain't gonna say that.
Cocaine debt. He said it was a debt.
But no, nigga. They could have went half of the bill or something.

Speaker 1 You went to jail for 24 years and you was locked up. Let's say you went to jail at 18.

Speaker 1 You're only 40-something. Every nigga you know is a jail nigga.
Okay. Your associations is jail niggas.
Yeah. So what does that mean?

Speaker 1 So when you come out of jail, I'm going to be around jail niggas. But you just said it's not true that niggas come home, get the lawsuit, and put it back in the street.

Speaker 1 If you were putting it back, if a nigga owe you money, you put the money that you got back in the street, nigga, nigga, he might, we don't know why the nigga owe him money.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is him being around $1,200 for cocaine. Yeah, some bullshit.
I'm letting that go.

Speaker 1 I'm doubting that. $4.1 million ain't enough to keep the nigga.
I am letting that $1,200 go.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying. That's the part that fucked me.
If we bickering over $1,200.

Speaker 1 And you got four hills. I got off.
And I got $4.1 million. Fucking idiots.
The nigga took it from you. It's principal.
A nigga did $24.

Speaker 1 All right, yeah. Principal should go out the window.
I'm going to say,

Speaker 1 i'm with you that is the next thing go out the window that is the next contestant or when you real goes wrong

Speaker 1 no bullshit i'll be rooting for some of these i not to sound fucked up this is a dude maybe like a year ago this is a dude who's trying to kill my brother and then wait damn

Speaker 1 hold on yo they had some beef on the street he got locked up my brother got locked up he was back and forth and he didn't know who his brother i used to hoop with the boy then

Speaker 1 uh he found out where brothers once he was locked up so i was like when he gets out he might actually have an issue with me too yeah he did

Speaker 1 20 he did 20 years. He did close to 20 years.
And he got out in June. And they made him go to Pittsburgh because they wouldn't let him be in the Philadelphia area because he had tried to break out.

Speaker 1 He's all this other shit. Anyway, I was just like that dude.
I was like, he's going to go back to jail. He's been in jail for 20 years.
That's the only life he know.

Speaker 1 He'll be back soon enough. And my brother called me from jail about a month ago, like, yo.
Well, I could say, well, I always don't matter. He was like, nigga, back.
No, he's dead.

Speaker 1 Dude was selling guns out of the cribs in Pittsburgh, and the police broke in, and he was like, I'm not going back. And they killed him.
And that's what we were banking on.

Speaker 1 Not to be fucked up, but I was like, I felt a relief. Because he tried to harm your family member.
Oh, he tried. Yeah, he tried to kill him.
He tried to kill him.

Speaker 1 Like, literally, it was on 52nd Street with a shootout, right? My point is,

Speaker 1 this story is fucked up because he was maybe because the exoneration part.

Speaker 1 But if you spend 20 years in jail, they're designed to put you back in jail because you get a mentality where you probably going to end up going back.

Speaker 2 It's too bad he wasn't like Andy Dufran.

Speaker 1 Who's that? I don't know, Andy Dufran.

Speaker 2 Shaw Shank Redemption.

Speaker 1 Oh, sorry. I don't remember his real name.

Speaker 1 Are you fucking nuts?

Speaker 1 You're talking about hitting the pipe and escaping and going on the island somewhere. Are you fucking nuts? Which was Andrew Dufrey?

Speaker 1 Well, Red followed him. That was the nigga that was taking the sand, putting it down his pants.

Speaker 1 He was fucking sandy ass back to camp.

Speaker 1 The nigga red followed him.

Speaker 1 But Red did his time. Red came home.
See, black nigga did his time, but the white nigga escaped. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Look who you remember. All right.
Andrew Dufray. Sidetracking, though, I was actually friendly.
I've never seen Shaw Shake Redemption. For real? Hey, Mark.
Mark, Mark. I'm the only.
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 No, you ain't seen it. Yeah, yeah.
Why didn't you say it's nothing with jail? Yeah. Okay, wait.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised you haven't seen it. It's like a jail reform.

Speaker 1 No, I know. I heard it's great.
I own it. It's on the top of my list of movies I'm supposed to see that I'm embarrassed that I didn't see.
You own it? And you own it, and you still ain't see it?

Speaker 1 Because it's one of the movies that you keep going so long without watching it that you're embarrassed. And then nobody will watch it with you.
Go watch the movie.

Speaker 1 It's like not knowing how to play space. You're watching watching with you?

Speaker 2 Because it's a pre-watchable movie.

Speaker 1 She probably, she's seen it enough times that she's right.

Speaker 2 It doesn't matter what time.

Speaker 1 You ever know how to play Spades? No, no, I know how to play Spades.

Speaker 1 I am a Spades god. I am the best.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. Everybody

Speaker 1 say it in time. I L Cards on it.
I am the best Spades player you've ever met in real life.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm a beast.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Well, anyways, when Shaw Shank Redemption comes on TV, it doesn't matter what point of the movie is, most people will continue to watch it. It's that good.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's like that? It's that good. All right, I watch it.
I'll watch it this week. Like I said,

Speaker 1 I don't play DVDs no more, but I'll watch it. Just watch it, bro.

Speaker 1 You got a lot of weird little movie coming. Word, yo, you got a lot of movies.
I don't have a lot. Hey, yo, dude, I have one.

Speaker 1 I got what? Because I didn't see Gladiator.

Speaker 1 That's one.

Speaker 1 That's weird. That's weird.
That's one.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's it.
That's all y'all got. That's y'all one.
Shaw Shank. Shaw Shank.
Two classics. You didn't like Last Dragon?

Speaker 1 I saw it when I was 25. Nobody likes Last Dragon.
Watch it as an adult. It's a fucking terrible movie.
That makes sense. We We saw that.

Speaker 1 You know, it's like going to a kid's play when it ain't your kid.

Speaker 1 Right. Those motherfuckers stink.
I go to them all the time. I was a teacher.
They fucking suck. You can't sing.
You can't act.

Speaker 1 Shut up. It's only cute when it's your kid.
Hey, that's fine. I just cut it right though.
Right.

Speaker 2 I was having a conversation with somebody who's a Gen Zero and I was talking about a movie, True Romance. Has anybody ever seen it? Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 It's fucking epic, right? And I realized.

Speaker 1 Yo. Epic?

Speaker 2 True Romance is so cool.

Speaker 1 First of all, first of all, the scene

Speaker 1 with

Speaker 1 is it Quentin Tarino? It's not Quentin Tarantino written. Quint Tarantino wrote it.

Speaker 2 Tony Scott directed it. And it has Dennis Hopper, Christopher Walken, Brad Pitt, James Gandalfini.

Speaker 1 That's Brad Pitt's first movie. Funny enough.
No.

Speaker 1 Oh, I seen it. I'm saying it.
I think so. I saw it.

Speaker 1 Brad Pitt was doing shit as a kid. Yeah, Brad Pitt came out of 93 gig.
Yeah. Fucking great movie.

Speaker 2 So I was just like, yo, so I was talking to somebody from Gen Z, and they were like, I have no idea about this movie.

Speaker 2 And I thought, I I was like, ooh, what kind of like movie recommendations could we give to the younger generation that they have no concept of?

Speaker 2 Now that they're using our music as their fucking samples,

Speaker 2 what movies would you guys recommend to the Gen Zers who probably have no clue that it even fucking exists?

Speaker 1 Pulp Fiction.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. That's a good one.
1992. I've seen Pulp Fiction, right? Pulp Fiction is going to be trash to one of these young niggas.
Really? Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's going to pick what he just said.

Speaker 1 It's all over the place. It's written in a weird sense that they might might not get it.
Paul Fiction is trash.

Speaker 1 Paul Fiction is trash. If you weren't there, it was a time piece that you had to be there when it came out.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think that shit is time piece.
I'm telling them niggas to watch Fight Club. For sure.
Yep, that's a good one. That's a good one.
Fight Club is great. I'm sorry, I stand corrected too.

Speaker 1 That's not Brad Pitt's first movie. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Fight Club is amazing. Kind of what they got.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he was in Thelma and Louise way before that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was still a kid in some ways. Yeah, he was.
Romeo and Juliet.

Speaker 2 Oh, and I would also say Thelma and Louise.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which one? Which one? Usual suspects, you bitch at me. Usual suspects.
Usual suspects.

Speaker 2 The Romeo and Juliet with Leonardo DiCaprio and

Speaker 2 a Claire Danes.

Speaker 1 That was a very good movie. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 Actually, I said we watched all the Nolan movies. Who?

Speaker 2 Christopher Nolan, Christopher Nolan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 All of them. Everything's

Speaker 1 black movies. Prestige is that shit.
Warriors. Warriors is a classic gang movie.
It's horrible. The acting is horrible, but should watch it.
You never saw Warriors? No. Grease.
Never Never saw that.

Speaker 1 Nigga, did you say Greece? Greece is my favorite movie. He likes the white movies.

Speaker 1 You just calling me three weeks ago for like a romantic comedies, and you recommend Romeo and Juliet, fucking Greece. Greece is my favorite movie.
What's the other shit? It's so hard.

Speaker 1 It's a wonderful life, but that's all.

Speaker 1 All three of them are amazing. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I hate Greece. I have trouble from Greece.
Greece is amazing. Greece is amazing.
I'm going to get you sucker. Here we go.
Now let's go on the other end. How about Coming to America? Harlem Knights.

Speaker 1 Of course.

Speaker 2 Well, they probably started watching Coming to America, or they probably watched it because the most recent Coming to America 2 2 came out. So they're like, I need context.
That's fair.

Speaker 1 Don't watch the other Eddie Murphy movies. Everyone.
Everyone. Every single

Speaker 1 boomerang. Seven Vampire in Brooklyn.
Everything else. And Pluto Nash.
Don't watch that. Yeah, that don't count.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That don't count. That didn't happen.
Yeah, that ain't. That's like Black Knight.
We don't count that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, so you watched Jamie Fox Netflix special.

Speaker 1 You want to call it a special? Stop.

Speaker 1 Stop. Because I watched it this morning and I know what you're about to do.
Oh, Lord. Be nice.
What happened? Be nice about what? No one else watched it, right? No, I know. Don't.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm going to watch it.

Speaker 2 You hit the group chat too late.

Speaker 1 No, he's not on time.

Speaker 1 Netflix is 3 a.m. on the East Coast.

Speaker 1 That's why. I was still on the West Coast.
I know. I'm sorry.
But you don't waste your time. Wait, is it not funny or is it not comedy? It's not.

Speaker 1 And I double-checked because I thought maybe I'm tripping because they were saying special, special, special.

Speaker 1 So I said, okay, maybe this is just him getting this, you know, giving his version of everything that happened. They have it listed as tear jerker, comma, stand-up comedy.
Huh.

Speaker 1 You don't always comedy. I don't want my tears jerked in a comedy.

Speaker 1 He walks out on the stage and starts crying. Yo, the man almost died.
I don't need a special for this then.

Speaker 2 So it's called What Had Happened Was. That sounds funny.

Speaker 1 He might, yeah, of course. He might have got overwhelmed by the.
No, no, no. He did.
He did that.

Speaker 1 He cried the whole joint. Thank you.

Speaker 2 But wait, it's already nominated for a Golden Globe?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
It just dropped. All right, listen.
I love Jamie Fox, but it it ain't that good. It ain't good.

Speaker 1 It's not good. This is a stand-up comedy.

Speaker 1 How many times did you laugh? I didn't laugh.

Speaker 1 Actually, I laughed. I'm going to tell you when I laughed.
Did you cry? I'm going to tell you when I laughed.

Speaker 1 When my girl called me an asshole for what I said when I cut it off.

Speaker 1 That's when I laughed. You laughed at your own jokes.
I laughed at her.

Speaker 1 Did you laugh? There were laughable moments.

Speaker 1 I do agree that.

Speaker 1 I do agree. Well, the impersonations part was probably the funniest part.
The Trump impersonation shit was funny. The part where he spoke about not wanting to to date white women no more was funny.

Speaker 1 When he mentioned Cat Williams, it was a little funny. The Cat Williams shit was cool.
Listen, when I watched it, it seemed like someone who honestly was like, yo, I'm really not supposed to be alive.

Speaker 1 And I think he's still starting to pick up some of his like shit. Like, you could tell he's not really all the way sharp.
Like he was.

Speaker 1 The other day. Hold on, hold on.
Hey, you know what this told me? This should have been. I thought she was dancing with

Speaker 1 Jordan's son. That's what I said.
You know how comedians go out and they get the rust off?

Speaker 1 He shouldn't have had a special yet. He should be at the comedy store doing these.
Yes.

Speaker 1 That's what I took from the guy.

Speaker 1 Cool. I'm going.
And

Speaker 1 the scare happened in Atlanta. He went back to Atlanta.
So he's like, yo, 400 yards away, Pete My Hospital. This is where it happened.
You know, he's breaking down what happened.

Speaker 1 But he just kept saying,

Speaker 1 Atlanta, y'all got me through. Whatever the phrase he just kept saying.
The crowd started saying it for him. It was silence.
Like, this is still a comedy show. So I'm still taking it as a comedy show.

Speaker 1 Jamie Foxx is different, yo.

Speaker 1 Jamie Foxx is different. Let's get something clear.
Jamie Foxx, on so many multiple levels, is he's not ever just looked at as a comedian. He's looked at

Speaker 1 him. He's acting.
He acts as a person. He's an actor, singer.
He presented all of that in a special. Don't get me wrong.
It could have been funnier.

Speaker 1 But for someone who is trying to pick back up his thing, and I think this was the perfect way to do it. Was it funny, though? You said it could be funnier.
Was it funny?

Speaker 1 I think, I don't think it was the funniest. Did you laugh at all? I did laugh.
I laughed at certain moments.

Speaker 1 If I have to rate it as a comedy special, it's a C special. If I have to rate it as a moment for him to get back into the world and speak, it was a great moment for him.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing a trend with these comedians now who are doing that. Like

Speaker 1 Chappelle did that right after

Speaker 1 Mike Brown, not Mike Brown, after George Floyd was killed, where he came outside. They called it a comedy special, but he was really kind of venting.
Jared Carmichael,

Speaker 1 Bro Thaniel was, I mean, I think Rothaniel was brilliant. But I fucked that.

Speaker 1 But I didn't laugh a lot. Yeah.
You know what I mean? It wasn't a laughing project. So I think Netflix in particular is starting to put out these projects, even though Rothani wasn't Netflix.

Speaker 1 They're putting out projects where it's kind of a mix of comedy and commentary, and people are, they're buying the artist,

Speaker 1 not the laughs.

Speaker 1 I love that when it works. Funny, this didn't work for me.
And like I said, all I took from it is, and this is nothing against him, because again, if you got a second chance at life, knock it out.

Speaker 1 Do you think that it's because you're not used to seeing Jamie Foxx perform in this way as a stand-up comedian i was just about to ask y'all what was the last funny jamie fox stand-up the last one he had and how many does he have that are funny he doesn't have a lot of special i've seen moments of jamie fox where he shined but i'm talking okay let's stand up all right let's all right let's see

Speaker 1 i i remember seeing jamie fox do stand-up me too and he was funny he was funny so i'm not i don't want to do that okay

Speaker 1 i don't i do think i mean he's on it he had a moment where he he slipped up and he said oh give me a second y'all i i I did suffer from two strokes. So, like, he's

Speaker 1 trying to get his shit back. And I think the best way to try to get your shit back sometimes is just going out there and just doing it.

Speaker 1 But you ain't got to record it. We sell it.
That's true. That's my point.
That's true. We've seen, we've known artists.
You got to say that. Chappelle and Chris Rock.

Speaker 1 They tour and they do pop-up shit where they just getting back out there, fine-tuning they shit. It's not a traditional.

Speaker 1 And then they go do a single-shit. It's not a traditional act.

Speaker 1 And on top of that, add into the fact that people have been waiting for answers about what happened with them for quite some time gotta work the rooms

Speaker 1 everybody that's not a traditional act they all go around and they work the rooms yeah we had joe up here saying he was going up and be a comedian and he was gonna go straight to motherfucking prudential and we laughed him out the room

Speaker 1 serious no no oh okay well i don't know no

Speaker 1 he was a little serious yeah jamie fox has done this so if he wants to decide he don't want to go work the room and maybe he's not in the shape to go work the room i'm gonna go do me a special and go get me a bag cool and then i have the right to just call that out and say that that was bullshit.

Speaker 1 I ain't seen nobody. I used to host comedy shows at the stand in New York.
What didn't you do, though? And everything.

Speaker 1 I got a jacket. I ain't sure shake.
International. Somebody had a mystery ass.

Speaker 1 So I want to. That's your shake, man.
A man with a thousand jackets. But like,

Speaker 1 we would, me and Amanda Sills co-hosted it. And we would.

Speaker 1 Nope. Nope.
Nope. That's nope.

Speaker 1 He fuck with her. That's like my sister.
But we,

Speaker 1 professional comedians would come in. I'm talking about like top flight.
People, I remember one time Damon Wayans came in and kind of shut our shit down for a minute with love.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, can I mind if I do 15? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 And he's a pro, but he was working some new shit out. They working on it.
Sometimes it hits, sometimes it don't hit when you do that.

Speaker 1 Could he have gone to Netflix or HBO at the time and just going straight? Maybe. Yes.
It probably would have been a C, B, but by the time he workshopped it, it was an A. It's an A.

Speaker 1 I've never seen a comedian not come through there and do the exact same thing. Yo, the man

Speaker 1 is not doing a normal stand-up. The man almost died.
I think for him, this is bigger bigger than just working material. I think, yo, my fan base needs to see me again.

Speaker 1 I don't got time to try to make this a working thing. Like, he wanted, maybe he wanted it to be raw.
Maybe the literal moment he came outside and got on that stage,

Speaker 1 he started bursting into tears. Bro,

Speaker 1 his daughter,

Speaker 1 look, his daughter announced him, which was fire. His daughter introduced him to me, excuse me.
The second he walked out, he didn't even say nothing to the cry.

Speaker 1 He just walked out and just bust out crying. I could see how that was.
That would make you cry. No,

Speaker 1 that. I could see how that was.
He's like, y'all don't understand. Yo, this shit feels so good.
Like, I get it. I couldn't understand that.
Yeah, he might have that raw, authentic moment of, yo,

Speaker 1 I, at some point, was not supposed to be here. And the fact that I'm even being able to come on stage and stand, I got my kids here with me.

Speaker 1 He also brought out his other daughter who played the guitar and sang with him. That, the special to me was bigger than just him coming out.

Speaker 2 So, does he seem like strong and sturdy, or does he still seem kind of frail?

Speaker 1 He don't seem frail, but you can tell there's still some, like, he couldn't walk at a certain point. Like, he talked about not being able to walk.

Speaker 1 And he, like, he got into, like, some of the things about that, which was funny. The moments about the nurse cleaning him up and all that stuff.
So he had moments.

Speaker 1 It was just like, for me, it was bigger than comedy. The special for me was bigger than comedy.
It's a legend in the game now coming out and being like, hey, guys, I'm back.

Speaker 1 I might not be back in the way that you might want, but I'm back. Check this out.
All of y'all, in closing,

Speaker 1 anybody out there that you're going to get your favorite vice or whatever, sit down and watch this, and you and your girl or something, y'all going to be laughing? You're not. Don't waste your edible.

Speaker 1 This is not for that.

Speaker 1 This ain't for that. That's all.

Speaker 1 But salute to him. Quicker reason to get to the, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Look, sometimes it'd be like this. Sometimes you bomb.
Speaking of which,

Speaker 1 it was a rap battle. Ice?

Speaker 1 What bombing got to do with that?

Speaker 1 I didn't see the battle. Arsenal Mook, but somebody.
She said, speaking of... The streets are saying that one person got

Speaker 1 annihilated? Yeah, that's a good word. Annihilated.

Speaker 2 I'm not helping.

Speaker 1 I didn't see. Damn, that's fucked up.
They're saying that about Mook, you know?

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say he got annihilated.

Speaker 1 By the way, just for the record,

Speaker 1 I went in and rooted for Ars to think Arsenal was going to win this 3-0. But I'm hearing that.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't think that would happen personally. Did you think the opposite was going to happen? I didn't think there was a 3-0 either way.
I didn't think either one of them would 3-0 each other.

Speaker 1 So, what happened? I have a 2-1 Ars. But you said you weren't there.
Yeah, I watched it, though. I have a 2-1 Mook.

Speaker 1 I have a 2-1 Mook.

Speaker 1 I have the first round.

Speaker 1 Ars rapped. I didn't expect him to come out like that first round.
He said that he did. Fire.

Speaker 1 Second round, he stumbled and then he choked. Automatic loss to me.
I don't care how fire your round is.

Speaker 1 And I saw my brother saying a bunch of things like, you know, if he would have got to finish and some of the other things. Unfortunately, he didn't.
So that round is an L to me.

Speaker 1 Third round. My brother went the super disrespectful bag, which I saw people asking him to do.
He even put a video up beforehand saying battle rap is getting soft.

Speaker 1 Y'all act like disrespect is now a bad thing or something. No,

Speaker 1 I'm bringing it back. So I don't listen to his rounds before he battle ever.
But I kind of knew that's where he was going to go.

Speaker 1 I think the third round is the deciding round, and it comes down to preference. Some people like the disrespect.
Some people think he went too far with the disrespect.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's up to how you feel about it.

Speaker 1 With Mook and Aus, I got Mook went into one. I do.
I was impressed with Auss's first round, him rapping.

Speaker 1 He did go longer than Mook, but I was impressed by his pen. I'm like, damn, Auzz sounds great.

Speaker 1 Second, you know, he choked.

Speaker 1 Mook did great. Mook's first round was great as well.
And Mook's second round was great.

Speaker 1 Mook had, all three of Mook's rounds was great. The problem is with Oz is that he choked the second round, and the third round, the disrespectful shit just turned me off.
Because in my mind,

Speaker 1 why?

Speaker 1 Because people don't want to hear that shit. He goes different.
He goes different with the disrespect, yo. But I can tell you why, because he did so well.
Like, we know Oz talks about family members.

Speaker 1 I've seen him do it. Yeah, but Oz did so well in the first that I thought that he was going to get away from that.
Me. I didn't see the video he did before.

Speaker 1 I just thought he was going to get away from it. I'm like, damn, Oz is killing it.

Speaker 1 You wanted to see more of that. Yeah, I felt like he didn't have to go that way.
You know what I mean? And then when he did it, I mean, it's Mook mother. I know Mook.

Speaker 1 I met his family, so it hits different. And a lot of people in the building, we was, you know, doing the Rewind show with Lux.
A lot of people in the building, everybody felt the same thing.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's because we all knew Mook, but it just didn't feel good.

Speaker 1 And then after he did that, niggas, to me, it was like, come on, you just lost that, right? I just felt like Ars threw it away. And in my mind, it's like, nigga, you waited all these years to do that.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 it's a bigger picture. Like, you waited all these years to get in front of Mook.
How long you wanted to battle Mook to just do that at the third when you did great in the first?

Speaker 1 So it just, it left us out with taste for the first time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but if that's what people know from, like, i i'm confused by that because when i when i watch arse yeah i want to see that that's what he is like that's what he like that's what he and he excels at so i want to see him mix it up so yeah if he did the first round and he went rap cool you gave it out

Speaker 1 now balance it out and give me what we know you to be attached to he might have came out the first round with the disrespect and then rapped in the third

Speaker 1 but either way whatever either way look it's gonna work against him either way if i come out in the first round doing that i'm turning everybody off already because again like flip said we all know Mook like damn his moms like you you you doing that to him people are gonna get that bad taste in their mouth like yo you because he went yo he now I say

Speaker 1 but Flip also said yo I was shocked that he really rap rap rapped in the first round and I was like damn he really came in gunning yes so I think you know what I think a part of it is too niggas is getting older yo

Speaker 1 Like that shit that you used to do 15 years ago that we laughed at and thought was disrespectful It don't hit the same because niggas is really out here losing people.

Speaker 1 So, now the shit that you got away with when we was young, and then we ain't feel no type of way.

Speaker 1 Now, niggas is losing their family members, now niggas is losing their brothers and their cousins and their aunts, and a nigga lost their mother.

Speaker 1 And you came in talking about the nigga moms, it hit different now.

Speaker 1 But at the same time,

Speaker 1 let me finish it, it hit different in your 40s. When we was 27, that shit was cool, it was cute.
Oh, you already said now, niggas is 40. It hit different.

Speaker 1 Nah, that's, yeah, I don't rock with that either. We watched that rap, nigga.
We watched him go up against the cat

Speaker 1 in London who just lost like an open to somebody. I'm just saying, direct, a recent loss, like a couple days before a couple days before.
I was like, yo, I ain't gonna say nothing about it.

Speaker 1 I'm not gonna say nothing about him. And then he just went off.
And that's a classic move three days ago. Yeah, that's crazy.
Like, it's just battle rap. Like,

Speaker 1 I get it. But we saw what happened when they talked about Mook's mother with Bridge Rawstein and T-Top.
We saw the big fight on the Amazero stage.

Speaker 1 We see how important it was to Mook or how important it is to Mook. And also, with Auss, I just felt like it was ego shit.
Like, to me, like, Austin didn't have to go.

Speaker 1 When Auss rapped in the first, I just felt the third, man, he just did it to say that nobody gonna tell me what to do. I'm gonna do what I want to do.

Speaker 1 That was just pure ego, man. It could be true.
Nigga, Aust impressed us, nigga. Lux looked at me like, yo, flip.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 I was like, this, that's Aust talking like that? It was amazing, man. No matter what, the general consensus that I saw online was that Mook.
Yeah, Mook was wrong. That's what I heard.

Speaker 1 I expect that. You just think they're wrong.

Speaker 1 Not even just that. I just think battle rap, again, is subjective.
What you want to see from it. So me,

Speaker 1 I expected the disrespect. I like the disrespect that when you're talking about it.

Speaker 1 But even with the disrespect,

Speaker 1 have you disrespected him and you rapped better?

Speaker 1 You rapped better. You just think he did and he have a shot?

Speaker 1 I don't think once he got to the disrespect and the people was turned off by that, because it's like, oh, you went there. Come on, dog.
And like Flip said, we know what happened last time.

Speaker 1 It was over. It was over.

Speaker 1 It was in Detroit. The crowd wasn't feeling.
The people started leaving. Well, this is what Tom it was, too.

Speaker 1 Fuck out of there. That battle started dumb late.
Shout out to everybody anyway. They're going to dry it all up with battle rap.
I'm serious.

Speaker 1 It's good to have a good card, though. I heard the rest of the car was a good car.
Shout out to Cal. People been talking about how Battle Rap been kind of struggling a little bit, but.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Calico, man. Calico put together a great car.
Shout out to Cal.

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 1 Shit,

Speaker 1 we had some other little beef going on in the the industry, too. What? Yeah, DJ Mustard went ahead and put your boy Boy Wonder on a summer jam.

Speaker 1 He did.

Speaker 1 He ain't like what he had to say. So I guess apparently, you know,

Speaker 1 Boy Wonder had actually messaged him at some point in the midst of the beef when Not Like Us dropped and shouted him out. Like, yo, dope joint, boom, beat.
He beat his heart crazy.

Speaker 1 But of recent, Boy Wonder has been making it very clear, like, nigga, we don't really fuck with I'm on Drake's side.

Speaker 1 So, you know, know some people made comments and said whatever whatever and he's kind of making it a stance like well we ain't with that shit toronto we ain't with none of that

Speaker 1 so dj mustard went ahead and made it very clear like yo you why are you making this a america toronto type of thing and started posting up the the message

Speaker 1 the dm the receipts the little receipts it was more than one message

Speaker 1 do you need more than one message if a nigga if a nigga is hard nigga stop it if a nigga came out with some fire i'm like like, oh, yeah, you caught that. Yeah, but now we still on your ass.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you can't do that now. You're congratulating the ops? Yeah,

Speaker 1 you can't congratulate me in private, and then now when the song is doing what it's doing, you want to make a stand like I'm taking. Fuck that record.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't think niggas thought it was going to do what it is.

Speaker 1 I don't think niggas thought it was going to turn into what it turned into.

Speaker 1 So I think that it could have been a mistake in judgment. Wow.

Speaker 1 But if Boy wanted to know he did that in the DM,

Speaker 1 why not just shut up and not respond to the song? Because not, you might not point now. And not just that.
You might not think niggas is on that screenshot message type shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, everybody don't move like that. That's true.
He probably forgot that he did that. Oh, yeah, he could have forgotten that.
Like, once that shit got serious, it's like, oh, damn. And then

Speaker 1 now we got to choose up. It ain't rap no more.
It's past rap. So now I got to choose up.
Now, Drake suing niggas and shit. He's on Drake's side.
You know, he sees the effect. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nobody knew that was going to have that effect initially. I hate that it's making producers have to like.
Yeah, producers shouldn't have to be like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because Boy Wonder worked with Kendrick before, and Mustard should be able to work with. Like, I hate that they're having to take that little shit.

Speaker 1 Kendrick is calling that Mustard name on records, nigga. Yeah.
And Mustard already told us that. Yo, where the fuck? Somebody, it was, it was.

Speaker 1 Somebody showed a party.

Speaker 1 They was at like a party party, like, some bougie shit. And the whole, the girls was in the middle.
Like, party party no more like that. Some girls was in there like, must up.

Speaker 1 Like, the women, baddies. Yeah.
It was just screaming. I'm like, it was like like at a gala.
I was like. They tried to do that at the next game.

Speaker 1 They had a little joint where the people were, someone was taping them coming through the walkway and was asking the players, you know,

Speaker 1 when you say muscled on the beat, what comes right after it? And a few players was like, nah, I don't fuck with Kendrick.

Speaker 1 I'm Team Drake. Like, it's to the point where they're making you decide at this point what side you stand on, even down to the day.
Oh, I seen that popcorn.

Speaker 1 That shit is weird, yo. It's weird.

Speaker 1 It's weird. It's weird.
Y'all out here like y'all ready to die for this shit. Y'all don't know none of these niggas.
Word. Well, some of y'all know them, but I'm just saying, nigga, just be fair.

Speaker 1 If you don't like the song, you don't like it. If you like it, you like it.
It's not that big a deal.

Speaker 1 Hey, I'm trying to find this video real quick where the Yankees fan stood outside of the Met Stadium and was cursing the awesome.

Speaker 1 He said, Look at this piece of shit street. That street is bad over there.

Speaker 1 He said, This is the shit you. You left that for this.

Speaker 1 That who did that and be the funniest shit? He was so mad. You left that for this piece of shit.
Look at the street. I'm like, that's queer.
That's Mary Winston.

Speaker 1 That That is a nerve.

Speaker 1 Your people fix the car for like $20. Nigga, I'll pick the brakes.
Because they do. Stop.
Niggas go there.

Speaker 1 They're my Bronx, too. They write there by Yankee Stadium, too.
That's racist, bro.

Speaker 1 How's it racist?

Speaker 1 How's it racist? Who's fixing the cars? Uh-oh. His people.

Speaker 1 Tell me. Who's my people?

Speaker 1 Tell me. You got to stop.
Yo, listen. Delgado.

Speaker 1 Stereotypes is real.

Speaker 1 We got to stop. Stereotypes are real.

Speaker 1 Mark will agree with me. Stereotype are real.

Speaker 1 Don't be a hypocrite.

Speaker 1 They weld the mufflers together.

Speaker 1 Niggas make a whole muffle out of nothing.

Speaker 1 Scrap parts.

Speaker 1 And it's playing.

Speaker 1 But how do you? You into sports. Y'all guys are into sports.
How does that?

Speaker 1 What does this mean that Juan Soto was? But hold on, can we make it clear? If people don't know,

Speaker 1 Juan Soto

Speaker 1 left the Yankees. Juan Soto was a part of the Yankees.

Speaker 1 They didn't have the money to keep him there. He went over the bridge and went to the New York City.
No, no, no. They had the money.
They had the money.

Speaker 1 Cool. They had the money.
It was $5 million, but it wasn't.

Speaker 1 Juan Soto signed a $765 million contract for 15 years. For 15 years.
From what I'm hearing. Brother Paul's actually.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of fucking money. That's New York.

Speaker 1 There's incentives, too. I went for baseball backlash, huh? Yeah.
I went more baseball bats for my girls. Yo, we about to learn.
We're going outside now.

Speaker 1 I was like, yo, that shit was crazy. Initially, they said it was over $5 million, which it kind of was, but it was also like the structure of the deal.

Speaker 1 Like, he got a $75 million signing bonus from the Mets. Come on, yo.
$75 million signing bonus. Gotcha.
I mean, he got a great deal.

Speaker 1 I think it was an idiotic move to lead the Yankees to go to the Mets.

Speaker 1 Well, one, because now you're up in the shithole of a stadium with this terrible franchise.

Speaker 1 He's a Phillies fan.

Speaker 1 Hold on. No.

Speaker 1 We got to put contracts. But in fairness, I don't like the Yankees either.
So I'm the most objective. I hate both of them.
Terrible franchise? The Mets? They weren't that bad this year.

Speaker 1 When are y'all paying Bobby Bonilla? I'm just telling you. Oh, shit.
He was bringing up some shit from 30 years ago.

Speaker 1 Because they still pay for it.

Speaker 1 Listen, hey, y'all, what?

Speaker 1 It wasn't from 20 years ago. It was yesterday.
Listen, old nigga. Shea Stadium is going Cityfield now, nigga.
Cityfield's nice. Yeah, Cityfield's nice.
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 How are your stadiums over there, nigga?

Speaker 1 Pulling holes, brand new. Pull the holes in your fucking stadium over there in Philly.

Speaker 1 That's a nice stadium over there. It's better than Shea? Yes.
I mean, better than Shadows.

Speaker 1 City Field is really nice. Nigga, you ain't been to the baseball game since you were six and you went one of them Scared Straight programs.

Speaker 1 I'm right there.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo,

Speaker 1 hey-oh.

Speaker 1 Brother Big Sisters took him over there. If you bring wife in part of life, you bring wifey to the game.
I didn't go to the game. All right, yeah, nigga.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 She ain't let you go, nigga. I played the girl, nigga.

Speaker 1 I'm Jesus when it comes to that, nigga.

Speaker 1 You can't go outside. I can't.
I don't want to go outside. I'm about to do it.
You do. I can go inside.
I can go back home. You know, you can't.

Speaker 1 I can go back home, though, nigga. I'm always in the house.
And you don't recognize that motherfucker. You always got kidney sofas in that bitch.

Speaker 1 And you ticking around the bush. You live in a fucking showroom.
That's your truth. And you walking around.

Speaker 1 I am.

Speaker 1 And you think around the night. And I'm not yet.

Speaker 1 And you're walking around the mall with suits and shit on, nigga. And you walk around dress like an undercover cop, man.
I am.

Speaker 1 I'd rather be dressing. You that old nigga and think he still look young.

Speaker 1 Hello, fellow young people. Listen,

Speaker 1 what's up, young people?

Speaker 1 You look like a nerk.

Speaker 1 I am. Go to church and behave yourself, my nigga.
You can't. I know how it feels.
You lost this battle.

Speaker 1 I'm not trying to have a battle with you.

Speaker 1 I know how it feels to be a nigga on lockdown. I'm not on lockdown.
You can't relate. I can go outside anytime I want.
I can go outside with a bunch of people. I don't know.
No, you can't.

Speaker 1 Make sure you put gas in the fucking car, too, nigga. Make sure you put gas in the car.
I love this jersey, nigga. We don't put gas in the car.

Speaker 1 What is this battle about again? I don't understand. I don't know.
You keep talking about the battle. I just talked about the Mets.
I'm talking about

Speaker 1 shit about the Mets. I just talk about wine, soda, and shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
But look what's going on. 21 Jumpstreet over here just jumping apart.

Speaker 1 21 Jumpstreet. The Mets started off bad.
Hell, nigga, you're paying. How much time did you take this shit to the cleaners, nigga? Loosen your shits up, boy.
Stop spraying your shit with starch.

Speaker 1 You can't loosen them jeans at all, dog. Yes, I can.
You can't. You really can't.

Speaker 1 All right, guys.

Speaker 1 You wore some fucking Jordans with them tight-ass jeans, nigga. Okay.
I know you ain't got some tight-ass jeans, nigga.

Speaker 1 Stand up. Hey, Mike, I'm cool.
Hey, Mike.

Speaker 1 We move on.

Speaker 1 Because this shit is just tight. I'm uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 I don't think you want to have a battle about whose jeans is tightening right now.

Speaker 1 This shit has started fire when you walk, nigga. Them bullshit you got on.
Motherfucker, what is it? Levi's, nigga? You bullshit? Come on, I got the same pair of Levi's.

Speaker 1 You can't buy mad Levi's, nigga. Stop watching your shit.
Nigga, get some new jeans. All right, my boy, get it.
That's my man. Congratulations to Watt Son.
Warren Soda. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 I love this game. He's the most lucrative deal in sports history.

Speaker 1 So he signed his baseball players. It's amazing, man.
$765 million is a lot of money. A lot.
It said he has the potential to meet eight and change. Yeah, but here's what.

Speaker 1 Is he that good guy? Yes. No, he's tough.
He's very good. He's that good.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 To me, he's nice.

Speaker 1 And he's young. Is he that? Is he better than the Japanese? His trajectory is.

Speaker 1 No. Fuck no.

Speaker 1 He's going up. He's going upward.
But, like, how much money is enough? Like,

Speaker 1 if I'm looking between 700, 750, 800.

Speaker 1 I'm coming here with your money. No, no, shut up.
No, no, no. No, no, no, no.
Listen to what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 When I'm done, y'all are going to agree with me. So before y'all get mad, y'all not.
I just want to hear you out. I'm saying that if I have a chance to be,

Speaker 1 everybody's going to give them over $700 million. True, okay.
So if I have a chance to go to a franchise that is

Speaker 1 positioned for success or one that doesn't seem to be, I'm not going to let $5 million be the difference between... What if I have a problem with something over here at this franchise?

Speaker 1 I want to be the man here, but judge is here and I can't be the man. But it's 29 of them.
I'm saying, there's a lot of places he could go.

Speaker 1 What if I enjoy New York? I've been here long enough. That's one.
I like the Ya Means.

Speaker 1 What if I watch this organization start the year bad and actually still work their way back into the good spot into the playoffs?

Speaker 1 I could think that bringing my potential over would have been towards this organization.

Speaker 1 And I cement my legacy a little bit more by being able to do that with an organization like the Metropolitan Speaker. I don't want to drive the rumor with all the sports, but I'll just say this.

Speaker 1 If you got 750 M's, there's Yamines everywhere. There's no shortage of Yames for $750 million.

Speaker 1 In terms of his legend, like he said,

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck. You can be a smoking, you can be high-up.
You don't have to be a bad thing.

Speaker 1 Listen, but if I bring a championship to the stork,

Speaker 1 that's something totally different. To the Mets.
To the Mets. To the Mets.
Yeah, and that's what Kawhi Linter said about the Clippers. That's what everybody says.
They go to the shit.

Speaker 1 That's the way I disagree with y'all point. I think that if you're thinking about legacy, you fuck with the Yankees.
Right. That's what I think.
I think that if you, if

Speaker 1 Soto goes on to stay with the Yankees for six, seven years and they get results, he goes down as one of them.

Speaker 1 So A-Rod ain't ducked the smoke because Jeta was already segmented as the man. Exactly.
I'm still going to go there and we both going to be the men. Right.

Speaker 1 Some niggas don't want that. Some niggas want to be a little bit more.
Some niggas want that.

Speaker 1 That was Kawhi Leonard. He said, I don't want to be a Laker.
I want to be a Clipper. Some niggas want their own spot man.
How did that work out for him? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because you can't be the man when you're on the same team as Jeta. Number three city.
I'd rather be A-Rod on the Yankees than... A-Rod was the man.
I'm just telling you what the hell.

Speaker 1 First year that nigga got there, give me that MVP. Yeah, I'd rather be that.
Because on the Mets, I mean, the the Mets are playing well. They certainly beat the Phillies this year, but I don't.

Speaker 1 They got an owner that's going to spend more. He spends bread.
He spends more. But they dump a lot of bread and they always end up losing again.

Speaker 1 It's not like the Red Sox or the Yankees, other teams that dump bread and win. I just don't trust the Mets.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of overall.

Speaker 2 Have the Mets ever won a championship?

Speaker 1 Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 1986, 85, 86.

Speaker 1 Yo, that team was amazing. In 1986.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ronald Reagan was. Strawberry, Gooden, Dykstra, Wally Backman.
There was so much cocaine.

Speaker 1 So much cocaine was in the city. That's when the coke and the crack was on.
Yo, they all did cocaine. Took a good little

Speaker 1 line them up. Yo,

Speaker 1 I missed them days, man. You was on them days, nigga.

Speaker 1 You was on crack back then? No, this was my favorite athlete. He was like, I missed them days.
Like you was missing the day. No, no, no.
I never did crack.

Speaker 1 But I just love when my athletes, you know, I just missed the old school days. I don't even like how you said that.
That sounds crazy.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. I never came to that.
I made too much money to smoke crack. Crack is cheap.
You breathe past that too quick, my nigga.

Speaker 1 Blue T was going crazy.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Come on. Come on.

Speaker 1 Yo, is it crazy that I said to somebody, yo, I ain't gonna lie, I never did no hardcore drug like that, but if I'm on my deathbed, I'm doing me some coke and some crap. You're gonna do crap.

Speaker 1 I'm out of here. I gotta see.
I'm going straight to heroin. Yeah, I ain't gonna.
I gotta see. I'm on my deathbed.
We out of here. Give me a drug Neapolitan, mix that shit up.
I need to fit with mine.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, yeah. What? What you doing? Put a little bit of fentanyl there.
Oh, you want fentanyl too? Yeah, yeah. Oh, no.
What you doing with too, man? Okay, to the deathbed doesn't sound lit.

Speaker 1 You're going to be just like.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, nurse. Hey, nurse.
All that. Hey, yo, nurse.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Nigga, mouth of it out. I think heroin is the way to go with that.
I'm trying to tell you. That is definitely the way to go.
Heroin, too, for you, man. Yeah, heroin.
Yep. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 Niggas is picking a drug of choice for the death.

Speaker 1 Which one you flitting? I don't know. Ecstasy.
Hit your button. You hit them.
That's ain't me.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 You never to ecstasy before? Nah. Neither have I.
Me either. I just, I know y'all be outside, bro.

Speaker 1 You did a lot of shit. I have never done ecstasy.
You are. You are sick, bro.

Speaker 1 I know y'all be outside.

Speaker 1 If you be outside all the time, ecstasy is like a.

Speaker 1 I didn't do that. You did Molly, though, before.
I've never.

Speaker 1 You did Molly, right? Nope.

Speaker 1 I don't do drugs. I've never done nothing.
You did perks?

Speaker 1 I don't do drugs. Philadelphia perks.

Speaker 1 I knew you was going to go to that Philly shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just be on Sequel Street just doing perks and volleys. Perk 30s, too, the big joints.
I don't do drugs.

Speaker 1 Only weed. You make sprite with your your rope with touching or something? You did something.

Speaker 1 No, no. I don't even do rope with touching.
I never did none of that shit. I tried to do that shit with Rob Bull.
Hey, y'all, I try to, I'm so corny.

Speaker 1 I tried to mix diamond tap with Red Bull before and call it like purple. That's stupid shit back in the day.
All right, bro.

Speaker 1 Going to the strip club trying to make it catch on. Call it purple bull.
That bullshit. I had a logo and everything.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. You probably got the children's diamond tap too.
The low dose.

Speaker 1 That shit was good. Diamond tap used to be good.
See, that's the detriment of rap music.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Watch your fucking mouth, nigga. Diamond tap.
What you tried to do back in the day, niggas take

Speaker 1 polos, get money?

Speaker 1 That's true. I tried to, it didn't catch on-ish.
Red Bull was

Speaker 1 looking at me like Red Bullbury and the Tap. Like, what you doing?

Speaker 1 Diamond Tap and Red Bull. I did.
I did stumbling, acting like you're on the shit. Diamond tap make you sleepy.
And Red Bull with the sky.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm like.

Speaker 1 I call it the purple bull, nigga. I'm gonna show you the logo, too.
What I'm doing, though. Yo, we know we do these straight.
Nah, that's it. Y'all niggas is bum.
That's how we do it. That's it.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's it.
If anybody did that, so what, nigga, support me. I'm your friends.
Never. Yeah, nigga.
I support you in no bullshit.

Speaker 1 What was wrong?

Speaker 2 It's kind of peddling drugs to people.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 fake purple.

Speaker 1 My fault.

Speaker 1 Where was this? He tried to make that end of the day. Yo, let me ask you.
What made your brain think to do that? Because he couldn't get lean. Because I couldn't go into Vims and buy a sweatsuit.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
This thing right there.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 1 Listen, sometimes when you see the lean and you hear niggas drinking it and see how they act, I just wanted to be down. You wanted to be cool.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to follow them. I wanted to come with my own shit, but it didn't catch on.
It was stupid.

Speaker 1 And if Yelene ain't make them lean, Yelene made them stand up.

Speaker 1 It's two types of dominataps, too. It was a full grip one that was good, but I always fucked up and bought the other one with that.

Speaker 1 What other remixes you did on drugs, babe?

Speaker 1 You tried to smoke some fucking

Speaker 1 oregano or some shit. I did some smoke.
I wrote some shit. You rolled some booze.
You rolled some oregano. You look like the nigga that potentially lit the splitting tea bag or something.
Sniff chalk.

Speaker 1 You know, that shit probably.

Speaker 1 That's the new shit. It's the new shit.
That's what the Sped Ed kids did at Smith Chalk. I wasn't in those classes to sniff chalk, nigga.
The what class?

Speaker 1 I was in the Sped Ed classes and sniffing chalk. Sped Ed? What a Sped Ed.
I can't really see.

Speaker 1 You gotta respect that. I'm not Sped Ed.
Signs you are in Special Ed.

Speaker 1 Sign number one. You call it Spit Ed.
D or special. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We call it Sped Ed or Spitz.

Speaker 1 This nigga spells special Ed Rogs. Never ain't put a D.
You can't spell nigga put a D or special. That's what they call it.

Speaker 1 You know what's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 Hey yo, Laura, how much time you got bullied as a kid?

Speaker 1 Them niggas picked on you, didn't you? And your wedges and all that, nigga. Nah, look at you.

Speaker 1 I was really good at fighting.

Speaker 1 I wasn't good at fighting. Okay.
They told me already. You was not good at fighting, nigga.
Okay, who's that? In Philly, nigga. When I was out there just now, nigga, at your bookstore, nigga.

Speaker 1 You said that you said right now?

Speaker 1 I was in your bookstore and they said you couldn't fight.

Speaker 1 That's a spat ass ass story, dog.

Speaker 1 I picked up Oedipus and I asked him how to have a new book.

Speaker 1 I said what's crazy.

Speaker 1 Say it again, itch. I can't hit you because I want to get you.

Speaker 1 I want to get you individually.

Speaker 1 You good, dog. What's the name of the book is? Nothing.
You good, yo. You good.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, my gracious.
That nigga's getting picked on. I can tell y'all niggas got picked on.

Speaker 1 All y'all niggas. You niggas that overlapping shit.
What's the nigga that got picked on again? Oedipus.

Speaker 1 You thought it was poor book.

Speaker 1 Yo, it's good. You good, dog.

Speaker 1 The nigga trying to make his own lean.

Speaker 1 I'm a ten crystal ain't laughing. Yo, see?

Speaker 1 See? It was Webb and Nitty, yo.

Speaker 1 You're trying to be the new Webb and Nitty Queen.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 shit.

Speaker 1 This nigga was in Spanish.

Speaker 1 Boy, man,

Speaker 1 And it says spare.

Speaker 1 We get a lot of bullshitting around. That's what we called it.

Speaker 1 We called it that in the hood. A t-shirt coming.
Oh, y'all can get a t-shirt.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's definitely a t-shirt.

Speaker 1 It gotta be Jersey and Philly niggas together. Wow.

Speaker 1 In the hood, we called it that, nigga. What the shit? Was y'all like in the basement?

Speaker 1 Putting niggas up. Put niggas in the back hut.

Speaker 1 Joey, walking. Nah, I'm with you.
Fur fries?

Speaker 1 Fur fries?

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, hey.

Speaker 1 Get your shit though. Get your shit up, man.
Get your shit off.

Speaker 1 You say fur fries so clearly. Chocolate milk.

Speaker 1 Y'all ate all that nasty pizza. Graham crackers?

Speaker 1 They didn't have graham crackers.

Speaker 1 That's the animal crackers.

Speaker 1 Giraffe.

Speaker 1 That is funny, son. Yo, you the best.
Yo, I ain't gonna hold you. You the best one, nigga.

Speaker 1 Are y'all good? Y'all finished? I got it on the bottom. Yeah, we did.
We should have made some of that, though. We made a lot of that pizza too in school.

Speaker 1 With the aluminum shit? Came out the aluminum?

Speaker 1 We all ate that shit. Nah, I'd eat it.
With the ball that they have in his class, they didn't have it in his bad shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they old ovens and washing machines and shit. Hey, yo, nigga, I'm gonna keep it real.

Speaker 1 Ovens and washing machines. That's what he's the back making them drinks.
I'm gonna keep it real.

Speaker 1 I went to a private school, though.

Speaker 1 No, what I'm saying is. that for special kids.

Speaker 1 I went to a private school.

Speaker 1 I went to private school. I believe you.
Yeah, I did. It was for certain kinds of kids.
It was like the rapper. Hey, yo, son, it was mad private.

Speaker 1 At the time, I went to school. That's why I wore helmets.
They ain't had to go.

Speaker 1 I can't hear y'all. Y'all talk again.
What's up?

Speaker 1 Nigga, hello. Can't fit your head, nigga.
What the fuck are you talking about, nigga?

Speaker 1 You can't wear a helmet, nigga. What the fuck are you talking about? You had the fucking space cone.

Speaker 1 Hey, you, ish. Stop playing, ish.
I'm chilling, bro.

Speaker 1 You walking into all this shit, dog. Oh, man.
What did the vehicle look like that picked you up for? Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 My mom dropped New York. That's number one, number two.

Speaker 1 And that shit made noise, too. Because they used to hear me coming down the block.
So it made noise. She had me in a Nova, some bullshit.
But anyway, fuck y'all niggas.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 No. Fuck y'all niggas.
Ish, I'm going to get you back today.

Speaker 1 No, you my man. I'm on your side.
Nah, you ain't on your side.

Speaker 1 frit fry right frit fry

Speaker 1 I hate the chalk too, right?

Speaker 1 Paste. Yeah, yeah, I know paste me like mint

Speaker 1 Mel take it away

Speaker 2 I mean, I don't know if I want to ruin everybody's fun Please do have no choice on that

Speaker 1 we need to ruin this fun a little bit. Yeah,

Speaker 2 okay. Well, we discussed the Daniel Penny case.
Uh, I think on the last pod, the jury had basically gotten together. They were going to

Speaker 2 decide his fate.

Speaker 2 Well, they've spoken and they acquitted him on all fucking charges.

Speaker 1 Shocker. Yeah.
Shocker. Yeah.
So

Speaker 1 America.

Speaker 1 America.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So anyways, apparently applause erupted in the courtroom after the verdict was read and he had a big old smile on his face.

Speaker 1 There was fights outside though.

Speaker 2 There was fights outside and apparently quote unquote some BLM leader has called for vigilanteism in this situation.

Speaker 1 Harper Newsome.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a mess.

Speaker 1 It's a little bit of a mess.

Speaker 2 This whole case was like a referendum on mental illness, homelessness, and as far as I'm concerned, race. I just feel like in this circumstance, let's just say

Speaker 2 Jordan Neely was white. I feel like the chokehold would not have resulted in death.
Because of just the perception of, you know.

Speaker 1 People, yo, I'm not going to hold you. It affected me a little bit.
I got a little more emotional than I thought I would. Me too.

Speaker 1 And y'all know I don't be really rocking with the whole, this was a racism case.

Speaker 1 Like, it was that.

Speaker 1 I think that.

Speaker 1 It's easy to look at black men and fear us and almost look at us in an animalistic light.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? So I think even the jury didn't look at it like he killed the person. I agree.
You get what I'm saying? Like, I don't even think they considered it to be like that.

Speaker 1 I think that if it was a black man that choked a white man, he'd be locked up right now. And that was for family.

Speaker 1 I also think that if it was a white man choking another white man, to your point, he would have let him go. Yeah.
I agree. Once he would have lost consciousness, he would have let him go.

Speaker 1 I heard people talk about,

Speaker 1 and what the news does, they'll go get a black man on purpose to defend that shit. You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And so they found as many as they could, and they had a couple black dudes that was defending them saying like, yo, he could, he kind of didn't know.

Speaker 1 Fam, if you are trained and you've been choking somebody for six, for six minutes, my nigga, they're going to die. You know.
Like, that's just it

Speaker 1 in a matter of speaking. I just think that it was a racial case.
And y'all know where I stand on racism all the time. Everything don't be racial.
This was racial.

Speaker 1 The jury was racial. I don't understand where the deliberation shit came from when they was talking about the missed trial the first time.
I don't understand how we even arrived here.

Speaker 1 So basically, he killed somebody, got off for free. He had absolutely zero remorse because they showed him in bars right after they left.

Speaker 1 Him and his lawyers was out at bars celebrating, laughing, joking, and all that other shit. My nigga, if this just happened to me, I'm taking my ass home.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Like I'm gonna go home. I'm chill.
Again, you escaped something. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not gonna be out and about.
You still took somebody's life.

Speaker 1 So whether you got locked up for it or not, you should still be remorseful and you should have some grief. And I think he didn't exhibit any of that.
And I think that should distract.

Speaker 2 And I don't understand the jury not, like you said, like not having any kind of empathy for Jordan Neely. Like, I'd be interested to have heard the prosecution's.

Speaker 1 It's a jury of his peers.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 1 His peers.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, I don't know what the jury was comprised of, like race-wise, age-wise, gender-wise.
I don't really know.

Speaker 1 His lawyer went on count saying basically, and he said it sarcastically: it was definitely a jury of his peers. Yo, I'm tired of people having all this compassion

Speaker 1 after the fact.

Speaker 1 He's dead now.

Speaker 1 He ain't here. So even when we have these conversations, I remember last part,

Speaker 1 I think, I'm not sure everybody had the same symbol, but I should very big on, yo, listen, shit go on, I'm out of my business.

Speaker 1 These are the moments where it's like, yo, don't mind your fucking business. That train is packed with people.
Cool, I get it. Let's just say homeboy was bugging.

Speaker 1 And homeboy subdued him to whatever degree.

Speaker 1 There's enough people in there to say to that, to ease up.

Speaker 1 You got it. Good enough.

Speaker 1 Yo, that minding your business shit,

Speaker 1 it's the hypocritical shit that I see because

Speaker 1 the moment when he needed the real help and really needed people speaking for him and helping him, no one had nothing to say.

Speaker 1 Whoever was there.

Speaker 1 I started looking at those. I want to know who those people are.
That you can sit there and watch somebody. I can't.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Don't get me wrong. I know there's moments where I probably should mind my business.

Speaker 1 I can't watch nobody get choked out like that for no apparent real reason and then sit there and then go home and feel okay. Me as a man, I just can't do that.

Speaker 1 Let me reply because I am big on the mind your business culture.

Speaker 1 And I'm with you there, sitting there watching something. That's not mine, to me, that's not minding your business where you're just sitting there watching.

Speaker 1 You're still playing some role. You're a spectator now.
You're watching. You know what I mean? And when I say mind my business, I'm

Speaker 1 getting off. I'm leaving.
I'm one of them types. I don't want no parts of none of this because

Speaker 1 getting involved in something can lead to

Speaker 1 we've given examples. Just getting involved could lead to charges for you, can lead to you getting killed

Speaker 1 because you didn't mind your business. Unfortunately, that's the world that I live in because, again, my number one objective, hey, call me whatever name y'all want is to make it home.

Speaker 1 I understand that. So that's it.
I'm just wanting to address that point.

Speaker 1 In those situations, yes, it's easy to walk away. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I would go home and honestly feel like, damn, there's something I could have possibly done, even to the smallest extreme. Yo, that's enough.
To yo, that's enough. To make sure that that man

Speaker 1 start pulling him off the board. Listen to me.
I used to see that guy. I tell people all the time, I used to see that guy

Speaker 1 all the time.

Speaker 2 And he was like really diminutive, too, right? He's like kind of frail and

Speaker 1 thin. I didn't see him towards the later years of his life.
But when I used to go to Manhattan and walk around and just want to write,

Speaker 1 I would walk and you would see him out as a Michael Jackson impersonator all the time. Like anybody that's been out in Times Square, you've seen that guy.

Speaker 1 So for me, it's just like, I start to think, yo, as a kid, I used to get on the train and be erratic. I remember me and my friends used to go in there, make noise, bug out, boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 1 Who's to say at some point somebody could have decided

Speaker 1 you are really, really, really... creating a precedent now where somebody can say, yo, that person was being erratic.
So I killed them with no recourse.

Speaker 1 That's a scary, scary slope, you know. And I don't think that slope would have been looked at the same if a black man had chosen a white man out of it at all.

Speaker 1 And I think that's why that's why I agree with everything you just said and everything you just said.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think part of it is how we're talking about the case, how the world is talking about the case. Because it's, was he racist? Was he not? Was he intending to be racist or not?

Speaker 1 It's entirely possible that

Speaker 1 he got up, David Penny got up to save the train because he really thought the train needed saving. The question is, why do you think the train needs saving when you see that particular thing? Exactly.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 And then when you choke him, why do you think he needs that much force a lot of studies show that black uh people are read as stronger than they actually are more guilty than they actually are more pain resilient so you might actually think this black dude needs six minutes to choke in because if we didn't get up he might right wow yeah that was the argument for beating riding king for all those minutes right is that if we had gotten if we hadn't if we got up for one second he'd have ran through la and killed everybody so it's not to me it's not Did he intend to be racist or not?

Speaker 1 It's how deeply embedded is racism in our society and in our minds that even when you don't intend to be, shit like this still happens.

Speaker 1 And then to Amani's point, to me, it's not just about sort of what we do after somebody dies.

Speaker 1 It's how do we help and pay attention before, not just when you get to the train, the fact that he's sleeping on the train, living on the train, the fact that the mental illness goes untreated.

Speaker 1 You know, if we invested in mental illness and houselessness,

Speaker 1 we would then not have a situation where a death sequence like this could happen. And if you look at

Speaker 1 Mike Brown, if you look at Jordan, I mean, you go down all the lists of these deaths. A lot of them came when there's somebody whose life is screwed up because the system doesn't work for them.

Speaker 1 Well, what happens is those are like the homeless, mentally ill, those are society's castaways. You know what I'm saying? That's like the trash.

Speaker 1 So, if some, and I'm not calling anybody that, that's just the way society abuses certain folk.

Speaker 1 And in that instance, it's like, all right, it's all right if it happens to them because don't nobody care anyway.

Speaker 1 That's how the reference is.

Speaker 2 That's why I said that this is a referendum on all those things, on homelessness, on mental illness, and like you guys said, race. So, his father, Jordan Neely's father, has

Speaker 1 filed a civil suit against Daniel Penny. And see, and that's

Speaker 1 the I hate that. Because he's going to win, right? They're going to give him $5 million, some shut-up nigga money, right?

Speaker 1 And the man is walking around laughing and joking in a bar after he just got acquitted for killing my son. Yeah.
You're not going to feel good about that money.

Speaker 1 I still would take the money because of getting dick.

Speaker 2 I mean, he's not going to get the money. Daniel Penny doesn't have $5 million fucking dollars.

Speaker 1 So even if there's a judgment renders, I'm probably going to going to sue the subscribe. I'm going to sue the MTA.
I'm going to sue the city of New York. I'm going to sue all of that shit.

Speaker 1 He's going to win some money because society is going to dictate that he needs to be compensated because he got no justice for Sunda.

Speaker 1 So he's going to get some level of compensation, but is it really compensation? And this nigga goes on to live his life. He was 26, dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a baby. No, Daniel Penny was 26.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, dog. He looked like a kid in the face.
He does. Let one of our kids do that shit.
Every time I feel like we win, this situation is. It should affect me.
I am not a kid.

Speaker 1 It takes us 10 steps back. It affected me in a way I ain't thinking about it.

Speaker 1 And it's unfortunate. Like, it's really unfortunate because it's like

Speaker 1 you think that

Speaker 1 we're finally getting

Speaker 1 progress or something.

Speaker 1 It's progression. And this happens.
You know what I mean? Society shows you the jewelry, shows you where you at. How they reported it, all of that shit.

Speaker 1 It shows you that some of this, the racist, this shit, it ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 proactive.

Speaker 1 Please. I agree.
That's what I, for me, when I think of things like this,

Speaker 1 sometimes the risk of something might be worth, you know, taking a chance because

Speaker 1 I hate knowing that that guy went out like that. Like, I wanted to remember him as the guy that I used to see, not the guy that got choked out on the train.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, so he couldn't, and that person should be choked up. That person should have been

Speaker 1 shit. And there's like good Samaritan laws and shit, I thought.
Like,

Speaker 1 if you observe some shit, you're supposed to be able to. They're state to state, though.

Speaker 1 You know, like Vegas imposed one, you know, because of this that happened in the bathroom where somebody watched it happen. A young girl was sexually assaulted in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 The person didn't say anything, and they were like, okay, we're going to add a Good Samaritan law there. There's some in the East Coast, but a lot of states don't have them.

Speaker 1 And unfortunately, it takes shit like this to happen before they say, you know, we need one. Do you think that I don't agree with the Black Lives Matter? I don't know who that is.

Speaker 1 The person that said it. You mentioned his name, Mark.
Talk News about things when you talk about it. I think, you know,

Speaker 1 saying what he said is helping either. No.
Like vigilante or saying that justice needs to be served and shit like that. I don't think that's just putting us back in the box.

Speaker 1 But the other, I disagree. I disagree only because sometimes that's the only thing that they represent.
They respect.

Speaker 1 So now, if you start seeing real repercussions happening, it's like, all right, we got to say that. So

Speaker 1 another black man dead or in jail? Do they respect that? Why do you think they respect that? Violence? People respect violence. People respect violence.
We do respect violence.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to sit here and be an advocate for violence, but I will say, motherfuckers respect violence. Violence gets resolved.
Around this country.

Speaker 1 No, around the world. Oh, yes.
But I mean, niggas respect violence. Violence gets resolved.
There's two things that white supremacy respects. The loss of money and the loss of life.
I understand.

Speaker 1 Nothing happened to George Zimmerman. Nothing.
Nothing at all. Niggas was walking around.
Sitting around laughing, joking.

Speaker 1 What happened to him? That was Hove's point. He said, y'all talking about wanting to murder me.
Y'all letting these niggas run around. Exactly.
So then now he's saying that.

Speaker 1 Like, it's like, nigga, why don't you go do it? No disrespect. That's your people.
Go do it. I don't know them.
I don't know him. He's not my people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just know his name.

Speaker 1 And I only know his name because I was debating about him the other day because somebody was trying to get me to defend him. And I was like, well, no, his position isn't my position, right?

Speaker 1 I don't necessarily even.

Speaker 1 This is what I say. We have to fight back.
We have to resist. But the fundamental issues here are not between

Speaker 1 Daniel Penny and Jordan Neal. There's bigger issues that I want to fight.
But you can't fight them. Right.

Speaker 1 So then we got to organize. Because I can't fight him solo.

Speaker 1 And so people feel helpless in that. And so they feel.
Let me break some shit. No, they feel like you have to resort to a certain level of

Speaker 1 Neanderthal carnal violence. Yeah.
Right? Because organization is not yielding results. All of the political action is not yielding results.
We're not yielding results at the polls.

Speaker 1 We're not yielding results in legislative laws being passed. So it's going to be an I49242.
That's people's mentals. I'm not saying that.
That's my mental.

Speaker 1 But I understand where that frustration would lead you to think like that. They're not wrong.
It's just you have to have a tactic and a strategy. I mean, we just saw, I mean,

Speaker 1 look anywhere around the world. You see all kinds of resistance happening.
It works, but it can't be just me.

Speaker 1 I remember we were in Ferguson after the Mike Brown uprisings, and it was me and a group of people.

Speaker 1 And we were at the top of this hill. We were like, yo, we could.

Speaker 1 We could make a similar vigilante type move at this moment. And one of the people was like, yo, that's not tactical.
That's not what grad.

Speaker 1 I mean, there were, when you go to Ferguson, there were helicopters, choppers, grenade launchers. This is a town that had 16 cops.
They didn't even have dashboard cameras, but

Speaker 1 when it's done.

Speaker 1 The government had everything. You can't win like that.

Speaker 1 You're not going to win like that.

Speaker 1 So you have to organize. I agree.
Yeah, and it might not, and to me, organizing right now is the laws.

Speaker 1 Organizing right now, not only that, but organizing for laws, changing how we think about mental health, and also educating our people.

Speaker 1 Because most people with mental illness walking up and down the street are not threatening. They're not threatening.
At all. Even when they're talking to themselves, I mean,

Speaker 1 I mean, I walk to Newark train station, which is the most, which is a terrible, most terrible place I've ever been in my life. And New York Train Station all the time.
No,

Speaker 1 am I wrong? You're wrong, nigga. You're wrong.
Newark Penn Station? You've been to North Philly before, nigga. I'm sorry.
I'm trying to put my town.

Speaker 1 That shit is

Speaker 1 a nigga. Newark Penn Station, though.

Speaker 1 I've never seen that. I've never been everywhere.
I haven't been everywhere, but that shit scared the fuck out of me. It was the worst thing I've ever seen.
When did you go there, ma'am?

Speaker 1 She lives in New Jersey. Stop.
She don't ask by New York Station. I do.

Speaker 1 Nowhere near Newark.

Speaker 1 Ayo, Mark, stop right now. Mind your fucking business.

Speaker 1 Where did you go there?

Speaker 2 So I did a Google search as to which one was closer, Penn Station or Newark. And then the fact that I was, yeah, so it just made more sense for me to go to Newark.

Speaker 1 From where you live. If you take a home training from where I live.
From where you live. It makes more sense for you to go to North Penn Station.

Speaker 1 I could see Penn Station. You are liar.
You could get on a nine-minute ferry.

Speaker 1 You could get on a nine-minute ferry and go to North Carolina. Yeah, what about it? Yeah, Yeah, I got a cookie.
That's a big story.

Speaker 1 Come on, buddy.

Speaker 1 You guys are telling where I live? Rest in peace, Nicki Giovanni, as well.

Speaker 2 Really? Nikki Giovanni died?

Speaker 1 God, I've been under a fucking rock the last three days.

Speaker 1 Yo, yo, yo.

Speaker 1 Mel.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 Stop. Okay, listen, geographically, maybe I got some shit to learn.

Speaker 1 Plus, why was I going to pay the toll to go through the tunnel just to go backwards?

Speaker 1 We know, but just don't offer it anymore because it just

Speaker 1 works in

Speaker 1 my

Speaker 1 flying.

Speaker 1 I feel alive

Speaker 1 in my mind.

Speaker 1 When you cast venture right here in front of me,

Speaker 1 Hey, look at it.

Speaker 1 Okay, break. We be back.

Speaker 1 And we back.

Speaker 1 We are back.

Speaker 1 They caught the killer.

Speaker 1 They caught the United Healthcare CEO killer.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the vigilante.

Speaker 1 Gigi Maggioni. Electron.
Mangioni. So, y'all believe in conspiracies then? It's Mario and Luigi and all of them.
Yoshi.

Speaker 1 Fucking Bowser. Somebody lost their life here, guys.
No, no, no. We know that part.
I'm talking about the other side of that. You You know, there's not a lot of people that are sympathetic to that.

Speaker 1 I mean, we should be, but there ain't too many people who care.

Speaker 1 I'm not even saying that. I'm not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not going to say that.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about

Speaker 1 the killer. The health care.

Speaker 1 All horrible. There's a lot of, you know, it's just a lot of shit they're doing to people.
Yeah. A lot of shit.
I read something that it's just a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 I don't know some manifesto that came from him, but I read something on Twitter that was talking about his mom and shit like that.

Speaker 1 they say he set up some other shit too, like to be released on different date. Like, he got

Speaker 1 December 11th, he got something coming out and shit like that. You know, I don't know, but YouTube deleted his page anyway.
Yeah, they had to. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they caught that nigga in McDonald's, man.

Speaker 2 They did in Altoona, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 Which makes sense. He spent some time in Philly.
Your state bugger.

Speaker 1 It's been a weird week.

Speaker 2 Well, he's a Maryland native, so he's not from Philly. So maybe he was just passing through and getting a little happy meal or whatever the case is.

Speaker 1 He went to Penn, too. I mean, he went to the University of Pennsylvania too.
He went to Penn. You know, the role.

Speaker 1 And this is one of the most interesting killer stories I've heard in a long time. Like, and there's so much lore around him from the, like, y'all talked about last episode, like the gear that he wore.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? He was throwing that shit on.

Speaker 2 In fact, it was a 3D fucking gun and silencer. Right.

Speaker 1 And he's like a heart throb on the internet. I mean,

Speaker 1 this is very interesting. This is the most sympathy I've ever seen America have for

Speaker 1 like a cold-blooded murder.

Speaker 2 Oh, it's fucking, it's eat the rich.

Speaker 1 That's what's happening right now. That's exactly what it is.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I'm with it. Like the bigger conversation, not the killing him part, you know, I actually was really frustrated at all the death laughter.
And, you know, this is somebody's father.

Speaker 1 This is somebody's son. Like, this is a human being with a family.
And so, and he's not the reason why healthcare is fucked up.

Speaker 1 You know, and so I don't want us to celebrate this and go back to keeping the system the same.

Speaker 1 To me, like, if we're going to talk about this and make all the jokes and all that other stuff, we got to look at, you know, a system where people are getting

Speaker 1 denied medicine, where people are getting kicked out of nursing. Exactly.
That's the shit we should be talking about. There's a lot of going on in the FK.
I understand why people are mad.

Speaker 1 I understand why people don't care about dude dying. I understand all of that, but I just hope we get past that too.
But he's going to be the most celebrated killer in prison for a minute.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, he's been charged in New York with second-degree murder, possession of a loaded firearm, possession of a forged instrument, and criminal possession of a weapon.

Speaker 2 But he's also been charged in Pennsylvania with charges of carrying a gun without without a license, forgery,

Speaker 2 falsely identifying himself to authorities, and possessing instruments of crime.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 They just threw all the dumb charges on.

Speaker 1 Philly, you know, Pennsylvania wants some shit. Right.
It's like Hannah shit of Commonwealth. Right.

Speaker 1 Because if you commit an open... So they didn't give him a first-degree murder charge.

Speaker 2 No, which is interesting because this was a thousand percent premeditated.

Speaker 1 He made a fucking gun. No, a lot of people make guns down there.
No, no, but

Speaker 1 it's seeming like he made it for a while. He walked up behind a dude from far over here

Speaker 1 and popped him. And then walked up.

Speaker 2 So you had to find him. You have to know where he's going to be.
This is the definition of

Speaker 1 premeditated.

Speaker 2 So I don't get the second degree charge.

Speaker 1 Then walked up on him, completed the job, completed the mission, got away. Allegedly, he had three bullets written with different words on them

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 basically

Speaker 1 described how he felt about this particular dude or this particular dude's company. If that's not a premeditated murder, tell me what the fuck is.

Speaker 2 I can't because it seems very premeditated.

Speaker 1 So what are you getting at, Ish? Because I hear you and Ice talking about

Speaker 1 that the person that they may got is not the killer. Oh, I'll tell you what I'm getting at.
I don't believe that at all. I don't believe that at all.
Not at all. By the way.

Speaker 2 You don't believe that it's him? No.

Speaker 1 He's the killer?

Speaker 2 No. No.

Speaker 1 That's the fault. It don't really look like him.

Speaker 1 It didn't look like him to me neither. Really? No, but that's not not him that's i'll tell you i don't care if it was that guy that matches the mask that they said that

Speaker 1 yo i just think that if you are that calculated in attempting to kill somebody new york city bro right

Speaker 1 he did that allowed him to quote-unquote get away

Speaker 1 I think that you're not as careless as pulling your mask down and doing some of the little stupid, silly shit that he did. I just don't believe.

Speaker 2 You know what's interesting is like when we first saw the photos being

Speaker 2 distributed about his face when he's flirting with the girl at the hostel, you know what was the first thing I thought of that I didn't say?

Speaker 1 He's cute. Hot.

Speaker 2 No, that is not what I thought.

Speaker 1 Sorry. You know, no.

Speaker 2 But I thought, you know what came to mind? V for Vandetta. That's what came to mind.

Speaker 1 That moot?

Speaker 2 Yes, because it's all about...

Speaker 2 creating anarchy based on like a fucked up system. True.
And the mask that the guy wore that's what his face reminded me of, but I just was like.

Speaker 1 He only had a, what?

Speaker 1 What type of mask? What those? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about his face.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm talking about his actual face, like just from like that, because it was, he was hooded at the time.

Speaker 2 So you only really saw like the bottom part of his face, but it just, it reminded me of like, you know, that kind of

Speaker 2 sinister smile that the guy in V

Speaker 2 for Vendetta was wearing, you know, and so it just kind of tracks him having this manifesto and doing this based on what he thinks is

Speaker 1 a heavily corrupt system. Murdered someone and then walk around with said murder weapon in your bag.
And you are the one who

Speaker 1 wanted person on the East Coast, damn near in the country. Probably the city state.
In the country at that point. And look, you kept the manifesto.
You kept the cops.

Speaker 1 Look, the silencer, all your notes.

Speaker 1 How you felt about the cracks. But the cops are not the ones that found him.
You got the manifesto.

Speaker 1 You got all the shit lined up on YouTube and all of this to happen, all triggered by dates and times. But it's not premeditated either, though, still, right?

Speaker 1 So let me ask you a question. So what's in it for the fall guy? What's in it for this young man who graduated from Penn, who was, I think, valedictorian as well, who was on the honor roll?

Speaker 1 What's in it for him to destroy his whole life?

Speaker 1 Tell me the opposite. If you're saying that

Speaker 1 he's the fall guy, so what's in it for him?

Speaker 1 I'm with you.

Speaker 1 It's a couple things. One, he might not be, nothing might not be in it for him.
They locked a bunch of niggas up falsely, and there wasn't nothing in it for them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think niggas, don't get me wrong, there'd be conspiracy theories, but I think sometimes we just like throwing conspiracy theories on shit. We just to make it more interesting.

Speaker 1 I think this nigga just bugged out and did some shit, didn't really think it through, thought he thought it through, and then didn't go ahead and fill certain gaps. And went and got a mixed music.

Speaker 1 They were showing that he didn't have a unibrow, but niggas cut their unibrows all the time.

Speaker 1 So he cut his unibrow, but he ain't throw the gun away.

Speaker 1 Got it. Souvenir.
He cut the unibrow in an attempt to escape. He put the gun on eBay.
He didn't know he was going wanting to sell a gun. This is the gun.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I didn't put the man up.

Speaker 1 Ish. He didn't know he was going to get caught at McDonald's.
Or maybe he wanted to get caught. Or maybe he wanted to be caught in the middle.

Speaker 1 These are all.

Speaker 1 Something's not adding up. I agree with you.
I just don't know what. Do you think he wanted to be a martyr? Do you think he wanted to get killed and be a martyr? Maybe.

Speaker 1 People who do these kinds of killings and then get caught at McDonald's

Speaker 1 often want to be like celebrities. But the reality of the situation is he's left New York.

Speaker 2 He's in a totally different fucking state. And he was not caught by the cops.

Speaker 2 These were Keystone fucking cops. They had not found him.

Speaker 2 These were all witnesses that were in McDonald's.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, that looks like the motherfucker. Exactly.
So they got a tip.

Speaker 2 So they had not been able to find him.

Speaker 1 But that's usually how they find people. I mean, this is what I say.
Why you just ain't got to be aware of that?

Speaker 1 Wait, hold on, wait, wait, wait. What's so funny, fellas? Let me ask you a question.
If I want to get caught, why am I leaving New York, first off, in the city that's under constant surveillance?

Speaker 1 I could get caught without having to go through all of this. So when did the nigga go to actually did it then? Yo, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 hold up can i ask you a question

Speaker 1 job well done soldier salute you back on your job you they don't know who the fuck you are you want to watch lioness no you need to but listen great show

Speaker 1 great fucking show back

Speaker 1 finale yeah we do

Speaker 1 yes

Speaker 1 something's not adding up here for me maybe y'all can explain it to me so because i i no they can't get conspiracy oh let me ask you a question and i am too i just don't know what the conspiracy is let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 Could you have picked that man out? If you would have seen him in your McDonald's line, yes. You are fucking lying.

Speaker 1 You are fucking liar. Why not? If you've seen his face on the TV all week, would you have said? Yes.

Speaker 1 Man, you would have been. Like, all white men look the same.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 He has features. Yeah, he has features.
Yeah, like the Unibrow that wasn't there. What do you mean? What the fuck is that?

Speaker 1 Because he has eyebrows. Features.
Yes. Only you looking at him hot and bothered.
Everybody else is not. I am not the only one.
Sir, can I get you? I'm not the only one.

Speaker 1 Sir, you want fries with that? Like, I'm not thinking about that nigga if I work at McDonald's.

Speaker 2 But he, listen, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 McDonald's over there, too. It's not like it was a McDonald's right there.

Speaker 1 They released these photos. They released these all over the news.
They released these photos.

Speaker 1 You put it and burned it in your mental roller decks. How do you think a lot of niggas get caught? How do you think people, when fucking they do sketches of people?

Speaker 1 It's in their mental roller decks. That's how people are able to describe

Speaker 1 his most wanted. They draw a sketch of people.
I ain't going to hold y'all with them on that. that because at the 9-11,

Speaker 1 niggas thought they saw old boy everywhere. Who?

Speaker 1 Bin Laden?

Speaker 1 No, he did not.

Speaker 1 You there, they did. Nigga, are you crazy? Bin Laden? They thought we saw everywhere.
Yes. They were making fun of Muslims.
They thought that nigga was in Newark, man.

Speaker 1 At the train station. I know.
At the Newark train station. That's right.
That's what I'm saying. Oh, yeah.
What the fuck is we talk about?

Speaker 1 The 6'5 Muslim with the turban. That's my point, though.
We just thought he was everywhere.

Speaker 1 You get calls in about what... I think this is bullshit.
It'd be bullshit. Well, here's the thing.
I'm kind of leaning with them on.

Speaker 2 No, so they could have said he looks like the sketch. They go in, they find out, oh, he's not the guy, but can see why you would have thought that

Speaker 1 they go to McChicken and get out of McDonald's. This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Because that seems to be his emotional. The man or the lady who called from McDonald's is thinking about the next person in the line.

Speaker 1 I'm having a shitty morning. The coffee burnt my hand.
I don't want an ice cream machine.

Speaker 1 They forgot my ash brown. Oh.

Speaker 1 That's the worst.

Speaker 2 Maybe I watch a lot of murder, death, kill shows.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? My bitch.

Speaker 2 Spectators. Exactly.
So when cops go out to investigate, you know, when, what was somebody's last sighting, they'll, oh, last saw them at Starbucks.

Speaker 2 They go to Starbucks and they interview like all the baristas and shit like that. This is not a, this does not, this is not a far cry from reality for me.

Speaker 1 That's where I get conflicted, right? On the one hand, this looked like at the beginning, a very professional hit, right?

Speaker 1 It looked like the timing of it, the silencer the all the knowing he was gonna be there to even catch all this shit

Speaker 1 the bike but then over the next the city bike all of that right the the no i know how to go get away in central park right all of those things fam have been knacked all that looks professional to a point where we don't have no cameras and shit happens after after you actually achieve the mission

Speaker 1 but no but but hold on but hold on no going in before he actually completed the mission where they went back and looked at the surveillance cameras he did tip his mask down a little bit.

Speaker 1 He did some things that didn't seem professional.

Speaker 1 So I can't tell if this is an amateur who's because he's an engineer, really smart, who did some real professional shit on the one hand, or if this is a professional who got away and now they're making somebody else the Patsy.

Speaker 1 I'm saying they both seem possible to me.

Speaker 2 Maybe he's a motherfucker that played a lot of fucking video games.

Speaker 1 And that's what I'm saying. I'm saying it could just, it might just be the most obvious thing.
He might just do some dumb shit after a lot of good criminals do dumb shit afterward.

Speaker 1 He's not a professional criminal. It's in 2011, they caught Whitey Boger after a 16-year manhunt.
They caught him

Speaker 1 in California. Somebody saw him.
Yeah. Yo, I see this fucking, oh, and he's old, 16 years later, he's old.

Speaker 2 And he had been on the lamb for what, like, how long? 15, 20 years? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, I see this guy that looks familiar that somebody y'all looking for come. It happens.

Speaker 1 I believe you. This nigga's face might have been embedded in your brain for the last 16 years.
This nigga right here is fresh off a three-day murder and out to the face. But his face is everywhere.

Speaker 1 But his face is everywhere, right?

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 But it ain't the clearest of faces. It's everywhere.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't recognize him.

Speaker 1 But I was thinking about it. He would have would have came right backstairs in the lobby, I wouldn't know who the fuck that dude was.
Parks, you would have recognized him.

Speaker 1 In the lobby downstairs, I would have another white. I nigga works at the pizza store down the block, bro.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you.

Speaker 1 But there are people. Yeah, like, see,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't know that nigga. That'd be racist.
But to the mid-latin point, some people are hyper-aware of it and they call on everybody.

Speaker 1 So I don't know how many calls they got of people saying they did that. That's that nigga look like Parks.

Speaker 1 What you talking about? He did not look like Parks, you idiot. He didn't have the black eyes.
Parks was busy for a couple of days.

Speaker 1 Yo, he had a fancy curly beard that nigga looked like parks i mean i do i there are there are people there are people who are that nosy who are that that's what i'm saying who will call we might have called on 10 other people that for sure they and they might have gotten the wrong hit uh a hint and called on somebody else so it's possible you want to supersize that i mean wait but it wasn't an employee who called yes it was yeah

Speaker 1 i thought there's somebody in the middle it was an employee that called

Speaker 1 oh

Speaker 1 and they had rookie cop number one come through hey sir have you been in new york lately

Speaker 1 and they said said that's the first question they asked. And what did you say? He got defensive.
His body language was defensive.

Speaker 1 Come on, dog.

Speaker 1 Come on, dog. Yeah, I'm not rolling, man.
Come on, man. He's a 26 years old.

Speaker 1 I see why you're skeptical. You seen Shooter? No.
Word.

Speaker 1 You never. Yeah, he's 26 years.
I hate y'all niggas. Goodbye.
Yo, he's 26 years old. He's from Maryland.
He's with the pen. I never saw Shooter, no.
Wait, Mark Walbert? No.

Speaker 1 We can't keep having him. It's okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just got something different.
Oh, yeah. Say that I lie.
I don't like. I have a Mark Wahlberg issue.

Speaker 1 I got a Marky Mark issue. That's why.
I do too. That was intentional.
The family said that basically when

Speaker 1 on shooter, the dude's picture was out damn near before they

Speaker 1 had any details.

Speaker 1 They knew what hostel he stayed in. You couldn't find him, but you knew what.
Why are we winning?

Speaker 1 Nigga, how would you know where to go look at what hostel if you don't know who? Don't call me a name. You almost call me a name.

Speaker 1 I didn't. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is that

Speaker 1 it's a lot of cameras around-ish. You You can go, like,

Speaker 1 the way the city is set up, and that lends to my professional hit, that he escaped

Speaker 1 all of the cameras. Yes.
I escaped them.

Speaker 1 How if he got caught in the fucking hostel? This is what I'm saying. Tuna Pencil.
No, no, but I'm talking about the, before the shoot, he was in the hostel. They saw him there.

Speaker 1 They saw him in the Starbucks. They saw him in other places.
How do you know that was him?

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 They told you it was him. The whole thing, I mean, they could have put me up there and said, yo, this is the guy right here.
We got a picture of him going in to

Speaker 1 Starbucks. No, but we wouldn't have thought that because we're like, no, that stupid nigga was with us.

Speaker 1 Yo, they could tell you anybody. You're going to believe it.
No, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 If we're beginning from the premise that everything law enforcement is saying isn't true, which I'm fine with, then yeah, it could be a whole conspiracy.

Speaker 1 But if we're saying that the guy they told us killed this person and the person who's on that video is there, this is not a professional.

Speaker 1 This is somebody who knew how to get a gun, who knew how to do all this other shit, which makes sense. He's an engineer.
He has a master's degree in engineering.

Speaker 1 I'm just like, what's the purpose of the conspiracy? Like, typically when you have a conspiracy, there's like something bigger at hand. That's what I'm saying.
Like, typically,

Speaker 1 of a company that brings in hundreds of billions of dollars a year. I mean,

Speaker 1 that's what I'm saying. Walking by himself into the middle of the night and

Speaker 1 no, I get that concept. Just explain to me why that type of fall guy.
It's above our patrons.

Speaker 1 It's above our patrons. Yo, stop watching TV, bro.
Okay. And y'all are the doc kings and queen.

Speaker 1 I don't understand how this is so far-fetched for y'all. And for the fall guy, y'all asked what's in for it, is we not charging you with first-degree.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I had a good life before you. You might not have had a good life.
You might not have a good time. But I was a recruit.
They recruit. You might not have a good life.
I'm going to keep it apart.

Speaker 1 Hold on.

Speaker 1 I might have caught you doing some other shit. I was just going to say, I might have caught you doing some hacking shit.
I might have caught you doing some other shit. And now

Speaker 1 you take this. That is that first-degree murder all day by any definition of first-degree murder.

Speaker 1 I need an explanation from

Speaker 1 the prosecutor about why this is not a first-degree murder. If your evidence for charging him, the other charges, the fake ID,

Speaker 1 all the things. Leads to the murder.

Speaker 1 And to premeditation. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And malice, aforethought, the intent to kill, these are all things that you do.
No, fam. You wrote on the bullets.

Speaker 2 Delay, deny, depose.

Speaker 1 Delay or defend? Delay, defend. Delay.

Speaker 1 The bullshit.

Speaker 1 You don't shit. It's bullshit.

Speaker 1 I feel like a lot of conspiracy theorists like you niggas, man, there's nothing that we can tell you to make you believe what we tell you. We never gonna know the truth.

Speaker 2 What's interesting is it says that he's the grandson of a wealthy self-made real estate developer and philanthropist. And he's also the cousin of a current Maryland state legislature.

Speaker 2 For him to be really pissed off about.

Speaker 1 He went to UPenn. Yeah.
Right? Yeah. It's the Ivy League School.
It's one of the best schools in the country. It is.

Speaker 2 Go ahead.

Speaker 1 So for him to kind of like have like a disdain for um he had a back surgery corporate america oh that was it he had a back surgery not too long ago and they found his roommates immediately and they all started talking about his back

Speaker 1 it's weird i thought it was way too late

Speaker 1 about his mother so it wasn't that article they said he had a back surgery not too long ago allegedly and they interviewed all his roommates and all that shit i did see something about his mom having some surgeries yeah i saw three surgeries or something but and i saw something else where it was saying at age 26 i I think it is, you're no longer, if you were a student, you're no longer under your parents' health condition.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 your crazy anger comes from that, right? Now

Speaker 2 he wrote that the U.S. has the most expensive healthcare system in the world,

Speaker 2 and that profits major corporations continue to rise while our life expectancy does not.

Speaker 2 This is according to his handwritten notes.

Speaker 2 And it also said that he called Ted Kaczynski a political revolutionary.

Speaker 1 Ted Buddy? No, Lufin and some other.

Speaker 1 bomber. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He just, look, he wanted to get away. They got him.

Speaker 1 He just wanted to get away. He just kept all that in his camera.
He should have gone to Taco Bell or KFC.

Speaker 1 They don't call the cops. No, just Uber Eats.
Or something. Go to White Castle.

Speaker 1 The employees will never call a copy. Burger King, too.
They're going to get you. You good.
Altoona don't got no chicken shot. Well, he should have done.

Speaker 1 If he really was trying to get away, he should have just went to a Jamaican spot. Yeah.
Money been on it.

Speaker 1 They rude as shit. He was paying attention to you.
Maybe you're going to be in there for two hours. No, he's not.

Speaker 1 Man, I talked to no beast boy again.

Speaker 1 Man, I know nothing.

Speaker 1 Man, I know nothing.

Speaker 1 Stop. Man, I know.

Speaker 1 Men know nothing. No, stop.
What you talking about? Man, I talked to Babylon Beast Boy Demon.

Speaker 1 Two head and four eyes. What the fuck you talking about?

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 my shit. You're the police who

Speaker 1 From pun me.

Speaker 1 Are you gonna try to step police?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're gonna give you no information. Before you even ask,

Speaker 1 before you even ask, we're not giving you no information. Yo, if they did, we ain't got no.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Fuck that.
That nigga's all racist, sir.

Speaker 1 You're a Caribbean woman.

Speaker 1 See?

Speaker 1 I'll bite you now. And y'all, Ikea, they got a Chinese store at every corner, even in Altoona.
Go in there, get your dumb ass some fried rice and some chicken weeds.

Speaker 1 They're not saying nothing. Cold today.

Speaker 1 They ain't saying shit. They ain't saying shit.
Nothing.

Speaker 1 And you in and out real fast. Real fast.
Real fast. Hang on.

Speaker 1 You trying to get your money there.

Speaker 1 I can bug

Speaker 1 That used to be my thing after school. Why niggas don't do that? Chicken wings, french fries, hot sauce, ketchup, and duck sauce.
And barbecue sauce. It's good.
Oh, that was it.

Speaker 1 You gotta let the hot sauce marinate for a little bit. You gotta let it stay there.

Speaker 1 So you stay in there for a while, ain't right? I don't eat it right then and there. You gotta let this hot sauce get all in the.
And it was kept in the nice little styrofoam shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, it looks the best.

Speaker 1 They need to bring the styrofoam. Bring back styrofoam.

Speaker 1 Bring back the cancer back. I mean, we give it a style shit.

Speaker 1 We got cancer back. Nigga, we still got cancer.
The food we eat is going to give us cancer. You might as well just give us the whole cancer.
Exactly. Get a combo.

Speaker 1 Get a cancer combo.

Speaker 1 Bring back the styrofoam. We need it.

Speaker 1 For some reason, you know, it kept it home. It kept it fresh.
It kept that flavor in it. It was crispy.

Speaker 1 that stupid ass plastic i hate that man

Speaker 1 that shit is disgusting i like the paper that styrofoam was salt

Speaker 1 the styrofoam was seasoning it was seasoning

Speaker 1 that shit was good

Speaker 1 poison

Speaker 1 be so hot the styrofoam the melted a little bit

Speaker 1 yo we be so better if you say spell like that we be so selective on our poisons that we want like

Speaker 1 give me the styrofoam yeah give me the over that stupid ass fake plastic shit that they got, I prefer that. I got a whole cabinet with them shits, man.
Styrofoam? No, with the plastic shit.

Speaker 1 That's my temperature.

Speaker 1 Give it all that shit, man. Why? It's bad for your body and it's bad for the environment.

Speaker 1 I like the little paper ones with the handle. Yes.
With the metal.

Speaker 1 With the little metal handle. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All the little containers. The hood.

Speaker 1 That shit. That shit got that.
The drink is shit. That shit is a plate.
You can open it and turn into a plate. No, we don't know.
We ain't had that in the hood. What? It's a plate.

Speaker 1 You take the handles out and when you unravel it and open up, it's a plate. It is a plate, yeah.
That's why it's made like that.

Speaker 1 I never did know that shit. I just don't know.
I don't eat Chinese food from the... Oh.

Speaker 1 I eat chicken fried rice and four chicken wings, nigga. Chopped up.
I don't do that shit no more, man. And make chicken wings affordable again, too.
Nah, my shit boneless pair ribs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's not pork. That's not pork.
You eat pork? We don't care, though. That could be rat.
I don't care. It might be.

Speaker 1 I'm a New Yorker. I got good Chinese food.
I don't eat that food.

Speaker 1 That fresh Chinese food ain't good, yo. That shit natural.

Speaker 1 I need no. That shit is cats.
Go to what's his name? Go to Han Dynasty. One of them spots like in New York or in Philly or like no spots.
Listen, hey, my mama. No, no, no, hold on.

Speaker 1 If the menu is big off, big dog. From North.
North, New Jersey.

Speaker 1 I ain't no fucking Chinese food.

Speaker 1 If the menu says no MSG,

Speaker 1 you can't get that. No.
It has to ask MSG. And you need little kids.
No, man. Hold the fuck on, nigga.
This shit is disgusting. We do the no MSG.
No, we don't.

Speaker 1 I had to know MSG on the duck soul. I don't go there.
I want MSG. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The garden. That's what makes it good.

Speaker 1 You want the garden in your Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 1 The chatty food's so good, nigga. You stop to eat it right then and then.
The chatty's on you late, nigga. You gotta kill it.

Speaker 1 A spring roll, man. Fuck them niggas.
Nah, that's good. They don't eat that.
What? They don't eat none of that shit. They don't eat that.
You go on there. I'm done with hood Chinese food.

Speaker 1 You go in there. Them niggas got the table.

Speaker 1 None of that shit up there. No, no, that's not true.
You will see them eat some rice and they'll do the juice and all that. They'll eat some white rice.
They'll do the heart. That's it.

Speaker 1 They're not going to eat that shit y'all eating. The beans pop.

Speaker 1 That's fine. That's for me.
Nigga got

Speaker 1 fish with the head on it. Y'all niggas eating that.

Speaker 1 Real quick, in closing, man.

Speaker 1 They got the suspect, man. He's been charged.
Let's see where this goes, man. Praise everybody that's involved.
All parties involved. Sure.
You know what I'm saying? Believe what you are.

Speaker 1 But mainly people with that shitty health care. Salute to McDonald's.

Speaker 1 That's really the crooks.

Speaker 1 So if you want to go

Speaker 1 conspiracy, nigga, what, McDonald's? McDonald's is up now in the socket?

Speaker 1 They caught the killer there? Did they get

Speaker 1 Eddie?

Speaker 1 And he held a motherfucking happy man with Simba on it, nigga. So with all that, I swear to God.
Because they're doing the movie.

Speaker 1 We didn't mention that either.

Speaker 1 I was about to mention that. We didn't mention that to salute.

Speaker 1 Blue Ivy. Shout out to Blue Ivy.
Yeah. She's in the new Lion King Mufasa.
Mufasa. And both her parents showed up.
Yeah, that was dope. It was a beautiful moment on the red carpet to see that.

Speaker 1 Beyonce was looking like something, too. You can't watch a nigga wife like that.
Come on, is you out of line. I'm congratulating the man on this shit.

Speaker 1 You said Beyonce was looking like you can't, you out of line. But you said nothing to do with me.
That's why you you hide your girl. That's why you hide your girl.

Speaker 1 This is why you hide your queen.

Speaker 1 Because what? Because you don't want niggas complimenting your queen. What the fuck about you?

Speaker 1 That's against the programme. You bring yours around, nigga.
I have. He has.
Once.

Speaker 1 Bring yours around now next.

Speaker 1 Bring yours around. So what? I'm just saying, you can't tell me.

Speaker 1 Yes, I can. No, you cannot.
Yes, I can.

Speaker 1 You can't compliment a man's wife, nigga, especially if you're Jay-Z fan. You can't, nigga.
You out of line.

Speaker 1 I don't even look. I was.

Speaker 1 What's a nigga name? It was Hardwood. It's Harvard.

Speaker 1 Okay, Hardwood.

Speaker 1 He just likes it.

Speaker 1 They ask about you all the time. What? They ask about you.
The people like, yo, shout out to Joe. Every time they shout Joe out, they always gotta shout out Melissa.

Speaker 1 They don't say nothing about me, Ish Ice, none of that. Yo, shout out to Joe.
Oh, tell Melissa, I said hi. Oh, I don't like that shit.
They're like, all right, cool. Go tell it yourself.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 Ish Hardwick. How? I'm saying somebody was looking good.

Speaker 1 He all said she was looking like some suit.

Speaker 1 Talking about Jay had a nice suit on, really nice suit, actually. I seen a picture with uh

Speaker 1 Victoria Monet, Tiana Taylor, and Janelle Monet, and they Foster.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I already saw that. Somewhere they was at.

Speaker 1 That's the hyenas.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday to you.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday to Tiana Taylor. Today's her birthday.
I think that's what it is. Happy birthday to Tiana.
We love you. Happy birthday to my sister.
I love her.

Speaker 1 They look amazing.

Speaker 1 That nigga's a

Speaker 1 That nigga's a pervert, so what? How I respect niggas' girls and balance. What do you by complimenting somebody looks? I ain't saying disrespecting.
Say she looks good, that's it. I said that.

Speaker 1 Beyonce,

Speaker 1 look good. Like yum, hyena,

Speaker 1 and all that fucking.

Speaker 1 You did give a dirty old man voice.

Speaker 1 We was talking about Mufasa, so they might have been. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah. You gonna see that movie-ish?

Speaker 1 What I gonna see? Yeah, you gonna see Mufasa's? I would ice. You probably bring your kid.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I had my older daughter. I'll take her to go see it.

Speaker 1 My small daughter. You're gonna see Mufasa on ice.

Speaker 1 You know, he gotta go see the other version of the shit. He saw all the other versions of shit.
For God. Have Michael Mexico ice was bullshit, bro.
I never went to see Michael Mexico.

Speaker 1 Michael Mexico on ice. It's wild.
People keep listening to the people. It's preferred.

Speaker 1 That's your thing, bro. I listen to my Andy Mew nigga.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 this nigga came home to the movie.

Speaker 1 Plymouth Brock living on us.

Speaker 1 Idiot, dog. Bro, it ain't a real thing.
Bitch, how you even found that, son?

Speaker 1 That's the Portuguese shit, bro.

Speaker 1 Malcolm X. It's not Malcolm X on Ice was ass.

Speaker 1 So, what was it?

Speaker 1 It was MLK, right? It was a Broadway play about Malcolm X. It wasn't a Broadway.

Speaker 1 Was it good? It wasn't on Ice. It was a musical.
It was a play. Was it a musical? Yeah.
Was it?

Speaker 1 We didn't land on Plymouth Rock.

Speaker 1 Was it good, though?

Speaker 1 Was it better than B.B. King shit that you saw? Oh, she saw B.B.
King. Louis Armstrong.
Louis Armstrong, thank you.

Speaker 1 Why you don't love us?

Speaker 1 Did they have the guns to sing by any means necessary? They was turning by the window. Hey, yo, one of these days, the niggas go get some culture.

Speaker 1 I don't play when it comes to Malcolm X.

Speaker 1 Them niggas do not play that's outside that represent for X.

Speaker 1 They are pressing niggas. They don't run.

Speaker 1 They pressed me before. They are pressing niggas.
No disrespect. I don't play around with Malcolm X, nigga.
So, whatever Malcolm on Ice, that shit was fire.

Speaker 1 They don't play nothing real. Mark, am I lying? Mark? They take that shit seriously.
He didn't even want to say

Speaker 1 that. Y'all niggas.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 1 That's funny. Malcolm X Center.

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas is ignorant. What Malcolm X? What did you see?

Speaker 1 I saw

Speaker 1 Opera Jordan. Oh, that was good.
That was Michael. You saw it too? You saw it?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No. I didn't go.

Speaker 1 I'm on the board of the Malcolm X Center, and so we sponsored it. That's why I was saying

Speaker 1 at the Lincoln Center. Yeah, yeah.
I couldn't make it that day. We couldn't make it out.

Speaker 1 The Lincoln Center you on the board or the Malcolm X Center? The Shabbat Center.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. You always into some shit.
Yeah, Lincoln Center wouldn't put me on the board. You always into some shit.
Nah, Lincoln Center ain't. Lincoln Center ain't had me nowhere near.

Speaker 1 I fit that. Yeah, he wouldn't fucking with me.
The Lincoln Center ain't fucking with me, but Malcolm X does, yeah. Oh, yeah.
His daughters. Shout out to his wonderful daughters.

Speaker 1 That's going to be dope. And how was it? How was it working with them? Wonderful, man.
It's like a dream. It's like a dream.
Malcolm X is my hero.

Speaker 1 Amazing, yeah. You know, and so to work with his daughter, Ilyasa, who's the chair of the board and all that, is really dope, man.

Speaker 1 But doing great stuff in the community for Malcolm to keep Malcolm's name alive, especially up in Harlem, is beautiful. And the event at the Lincoln Center was one of the amazing events.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that's what you were talking about.

Speaker 1 You know, I didn't go. I didn't make it because

Speaker 1 I was sick. But

Speaker 1 Malcolm,

Speaker 1 right. It's not so far from what actually happened.
I didn't know before he was going to be able to do it. All they do is play around.

Speaker 1 We shout out. Triple Linden.

Speaker 1 Just get your laughs off.

Speaker 1 Laugh quietly. I'm not making no jokes.

Speaker 1 They don't play with a cut of Marco Parks. I love Malcolm.

Speaker 1 I would never. I love Malcolm.
Amazing. Bunch of heat.
Man, listen, is there anything else that's near and dear to our hearts that we're missing?

Speaker 1 I just

Speaker 1 know just one quick thing.

Speaker 1 Kendrick Perkins was reporting this morning on ESPN that his sources are saying the Lakers are, that if the Lakers are saying that if LeBron James wants to be traded, they won't stop it.

Speaker 1 But he has to come to them basically and say he wants to trade.

Speaker 2 Is there a rumor that he does want to be traded?

Speaker 1 They said he might want to go to Golden State. Yeah, that's one of the rumors going around.

Speaker 1 He hasn't directly said anything, but Golden State is one of the places that he's suggesting he might want to go. LeBron just retired.
That's going to stay.

Speaker 1 No, go ahead and Golden State. Yeah, I'll watch it.
Because they got a bunch of young niggas we could use.

Speaker 1 It's good for ratings, but it's a terrible idea. It's good for the Lakers.
But who's we? I'm a Laker fan. I'm a Laker fan, too, so it's like, I don't see it.

Speaker 1 This is the problem with light-skinned people. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 Go ahead and tell me. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Give them niggas.

Speaker 1 They're front runners, man. That's that's because you want to do it.
They don't want no hard times. They duck the grind.
They duck the smoke, man.

Speaker 1 You forgot the Cedric Zebalis years and the Eddie Jones years and all of them. I ain't even listening to my life.

Speaker 1 We had hard times. We just don't have them often because we have an actual organization.
We have had hard times for a long time.

Speaker 1 So, so you, in your lifetime, you've seen like five championships. No, more than that.
Like, five that you like were alive for. I've seen Lake a championship.
No, no. I know I've seen more than that.

Speaker 1 You've seen, like, like, maybe, because you saw some of the magic ones as well. I saw some of the magic ones.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, for me, let's say five. I'm saying five to six.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. How many chips Colbart? Five.
Five. That's what I'm saying.
And you saw the bubble ring.

Speaker 1 Six. Stop.
Oh, I forgot about the bubble ring. Six.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't count that for ya.
I saw like nine. But anyway, all I have to say, the point is, you talk about Newark all day, every day.

Speaker 1 Jersey, this, Jersey, that. LA is really fucking far from New Jersey.

Speaker 1 You're from New York? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 You heard of the Knicks? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You remember what the Knicks was like in late 80s? And then they got, don't get me wrong. Yeah, they were terrible.
And so light-skinned people,

Speaker 1 that's when they. Light-skinned got a dick.
They the fact. They ducked the smoke.

Speaker 1 They ducked the crime. You equate that to skin tone? Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a good one. But people be simpening.
He's right.

Speaker 1 Clip.

Speaker 1 What the fuck are we talking about?

Speaker 1 See, this is the problem with us. It's your dumb shit.
This is the problem with us now.

Speaker 1 And you back it because a dark skin nigga said, this one with us is the people. Yo, listen to this.
He's about to make some ice now. You try to get it over here.

Speaker 1 How about when I was young, Magic Johnson was my favorite basketball player? How about when I was young, Tony Dorcet was my favorite football player? So as a Tony Dorcette, wait. I'm a cowboy fan.

Speaker 1 You're a cow. So we wasn't shit.
Nigga, I used to walk in every Monday and the whole class would laugh at me being a cowboy fan. It wasn't easy.
So don't act like I had this lovely road.

Speaker 1 You had a lovely road as a Lakers fan.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But if we had our our

Speaker 1 times, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Lakers have been in the NBA finals almost half of your life.

Speaker 1 No, they have. I'm 48, nigga.
Yeah, no, they have. How many finals have they been to your Lakers? I mean, 12? 10.
15? 10, 12. That's a lot.
Okay, one. That might be not even that many.

Speaker 1 25% of your life. Who's your team?

Speaker 1 Philly. The Philadelphia teams, because I'm from Philadelphia.
I ride with my team. I don't abandon them when it gets difficult.

Speaker 1 Nobody did that either. Not an abandonment.
You're saying an issue

Speaker 1 in LeBron. Nigga, we was one in 15.
I was getting laughed at every day. There was no abandonment.
I'm talking about the Lakers.

Speaker 1 Can I tell you what shit is that? Can I tell you, when I started watching basketball, really watching, I was on the East Coast. That was the years of Jordan.

Speaker 1 I didn't go and run to the Chicago Bulls, which would have been the easy thing. I was a Magic Johnson fan.
We're all the Bulls fans. I remember crying when they lost that first championship.

Speaker 1 I hate that. Like, no, I just, I liked Magic Johnson, so I stuck with him, and I continued to stick with that team through.

Speaker 1 To me, that sounds like more loyal than just picking a team just out of ranking shit. loyal bandwagoning you joined.

Speaker 1 Mark, I'm going to tell you why your argument kind of falls flat because I'm not light-skinned and I'm a Sixer and still a fan.

Speaker 1 How many championships the Sixers won in your lifetime? None. Shit won the year I was born, I think.
Right. So we're not even really careful.
My point is,

Speaker 1 you didn't duck the grind. You picked a team that never won.
The Lakers is picking the Lakers and picking a team that always wins. So why are you discounting the Cowboys?

Speaker 1 I don't know enough about football to talk about it. Well, you can know.
I'm not at football. I don't watch football.
That's that dark skin shit. Me?

Speaker 1 Okay, thank you. Wow.

Speaker 1 We did it. We did it, though.
We We did it. We did it.
Miss Faye, gonna fuck y'all up. We did it.
I just want y'all to know. Shout out to Miss Faye.
Sleepers.

Speaker 1 Sleepers. Yep.
All right.

Speaker 1 You got your sleeper already? Yeah, I gotta kick it off, right? Do I have my sleeper ready?

Speaker 1 No, what the upside? All right.

Speaker 1 I'm going Big Jersey, man. I'm going Big Jersey.
This is Red Man. Don't Wanna See Me Rich.

Speaker 1 Brick City, let's go.

Speaker 1 Bring this thing. Yeah, cocky back, Pauls.
What you, E-Port?

Speaker 1 Hell,

Speaker 1 ladies and gentlemen. Woo!

Speaker 1 get on your hustle, baby.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 never put your clock for a job.

Speaker 1 Too busy making money with the tribe.

Speaker 1 Cross my T's and dot my I's.

Speaker 1 But hustle mode in overtrial.

Speaker 1 Haters don't wanna see me rich.

Speaker 3 So I catch them all slipping for a lick.

Speaker 3 Pounds get broken down into a zip.

Speaker 1 My money off with a scale on the fritz.

Speaker 1 My circle of people, they hustle hard.

Speaker 1 Cash money, no credit cards.

Speaker 1 I learned a a lot watching better calls solve. 30 years at rap, nigga, I want it all.

Speaker 1 If it's up with 35,000, you can either PayPal or I'm on the next flight.

Speaker 1 Haters don't wanna see me rich.

Speaker 1 The team don't wanna see me rich. I bet they all back down when they hear the click.

Speaker 3 I don't collect checks on the first.

Speaker 1 I wake up, I'm putting in the work.

Speaker 1 10% I gave it to the church.

Speaker 1 I dig back, selling out on my merch.

Speaker 1 The homies be looking for a check. A business man pays all the homies with a check.
Tough, work smarter, not harder, that's the goal. With a fucker face till my bank account never folds.

Speaker 1 Generation, if you want it in the wealth, save your money more, less Gucci on the belt. That's right.
Swim high, motivate from Mike Phelps. Only what can fuck it up, nigga, is.

Speaker 1 They say money is the root of all evil.

Speaker 1 I say the root of all evil is the people.

Speaker 1 The boss try to talk to you indirect, yeah. Cause he look at you as a threat.
Get money, oh. No, I'm doing all right.
That's third. I take an attitude when my money ain't right.

Speaker 1 If it's over 35,000, you can either pay pal or I'm on the next clay. That's right, nigga.
Haters don't wanna see me rich.

Speaker 1 I haters don't wanna see me rich.

Speaker 1 The team don't wanna see me rich. I bet they all back down when they hear the click.

Speaker 1 No, I'm doing all right. That's third.
I take an attitude when my money ain't right.

Speaker 1 If it's over 35,000, you can either pay pal or I'm on the next clay. That's right, nigga.
Haters don't wanna see me rich.

Speaker 1 Haters don't want to see me rich.

Speaker 1 The team don't want to see me rich. I bet they all back down when they hear the click.

Speaker 1 I bet they all back down when they hear the click.

Speaker 1 And that is Don't Wanna See Me Rich, Red Man, Brick City. What up, what up? Shout out to Reggie, man.
Good to hear. Good to hear, Reggie, man.
He's been killing the Instagram freestyles, too.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go to some J. Cole.
He played this. This is off the Truly Yours mixtape.
This is kind of how at You?

Speaker 1 It's a little emo, but fuck it, I don't care

Speaker 1 because he went crazy on this. Over that Laura, yeah, over the Lord shit.

Speaker 1 One day,

Speaker 1 I'm gonna understand.

Speaker 1 Can I holler at you?

Speaker 1 Let me holler at you.

Speaker 3 Special, never forget the day I met you. We was destined for each other like a son to his mother.
Uh-uh. Sister and brother, man, this bond is deep.
We go a couple years and don't even speak.

Speaker 3 But no, it's love, though. Could never let him dirty your name.
I got the utmost respect for you. Came back home and had to check for you.
Word round town is you locked down.

Speaker 3 Some older niggas snatched you up, gave you a rack. Now, damn, it could have been.
She like, if you was me, you wouldn't wait for me. Living fast and wouldn't match the brakes for me.

Speaker 3 Big city, slicker nigga on a higher track. Bigger now, but when she sends a letter, always write her back in.
Time revealed, she feels that she settled too soon.

Speaker 3 While she sees me go for miles, and she admired that. We speak about time as if we could just buy it back.
If only it was that simple, damn, I miss you. Can I holler at you?

Speaker 3 Can I holler at you?

Speaker 3 Let me holler at you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know it's been a while, but ain't no better time than that. Can I holler at you?

Speaker 3 Can I holla at you?

Speaker 3 Hey, let me holler at you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know it's been a while, but

Speaker 3 you betrayed me. The day you played my mama, you played me.
Can't believe I let you in my heart, nigga. I should've followed my instincts.
A stranger in my house.

Speaker 3 Only five years old, but since danger in my house.

Speaker 3 I was too young to scrap you, but damn if I ain't want to I'm blowing up fast and I hope these words haunt you 13 years knew you more than my real pop Put me on the pocket and all the rappers that kill cops Who would have thought that you would leave my mama how you drop?

Speaker 3 Last words to a bitch nigga, why you laugh?

Speaker 3 Feeling bitter so these words might seem jumble When you left I watched that lady crumble I know by now you probably an old man But still I feel I won't be satisfied until we throw hands For all the ass whoopies Heard you tryna talk, tell that punk don't call me You ain't shit and I'm scared it rubbed off on me I holler at you

Speaker 1 I holler at you

Speaker 3 And let me holler at you

Speaker 3 And yeah, I know it's been a while But ain't no better time than that Can I holla at you?

Speaker 1 Can I holler at you?

Speaker 1 And let me holler at you

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know it's been a while but I heard you on that shit. I hope it ain't true.
Was hard to holler at you last time I came through. Could barely recognize you.
you now, nigga, this ain't you.

Speaker 3 Cause you ain't looking like that nigga that I once knew. And plus, you act like you don't know me.
We was homies, now you call me by my rap name.

Speaker 3 See me do my thing, so you expected me to act strange. Ain't holler, but you on my mind, nigga.

Speaker 3 I don't forget the good times, nigga. White C's in the club, jeans baggy as fuck.
Sometimes I look back on my life, that was the happiest stuff. We had potential to be monumental.

Speaker 3 Bill mentality, you know that old killer beat. Gill mentality.
I look at where you at now, it's a real fatality.

Speaker 3 Cause where you're supposed to be is on top, close to me, chasing hoes like the old days. But now we overseas, dog.
Congratulations on deceit. Yo, my nigga, can I holler at you?

Speaker 3 Can I holler at you?

Speaker 1 That's can I holler at you, J. Cole? I fucked with that.
That shit is amazing, man. J.
Cole, he kind of went crazy. He went super crazy.
Shout out to Cole, man. Yeah, go check out the podcast, man.

Speaker 1 It's really fucking great.

Speaker 1 I'm going to

Speaker 1 the song is called The Audacity, and it's Lizzen

Speaker 1 with Jock Queese and Rob49.

Speaker 3 Okay,

Speaker 3 yeah, you know what'd be crazy?

Speaker 1 Never go roll that one.

Speaker 2 So with you, it'd be crazy when folks want to call you crazy, but they the main one playing crazy in your face.

Speaker 1 Lizzen.

Speaker 2 Had the audacity to call this bitch,

Speaker 2 had the audacity to text this bitch.

Speaker 1 I mean, you had the audacity to kiss this bitch, let alone the audacity to sex this bitch. Oh man, yeah, yeah.
Pennedy before this drap said I was him.

Speaker 1 I pipe all my bitches up, sitting in their bags and pot of tennis. My bitch dog skip with no weights.
I swallow a bad applying pressure. We ain't gotta fuck you, chat in my mind.

Speaker 1 Don't think that you for next time. You ain't for him, but you for me.
I ain't for you, I'm for the street. Stress me out, you better leave.
I'm a dog off the leash.

Speaker 1 You know when I come from out of town, I'm fucking out your sleep. You know you my main bitch, but when I leave, I'm doing me.
You had the audacity to call this bitch.

Speaker 1 Had the audacity to text this bitch. I know

Speaker 1 the audacity to sex this bitch. Aw man, this nigga on trash, he about to get his ass beat.
Why you playing with my heart, fuck with my feelings.

Speaker 1 See, I thought you really loved me. You proposed, you got down on one knee.
I guess that ring ain't mean a thing to you.

Speaker 1 Cause my heart ain't mean a thing to you.

Speaker 1 Take your lines and all your thanks with you.

Speaker 1 Cause I cannot stay with you. It's alright, we'll be fine.

Speaker 1 She made me Gucci, she gon' get what she like.

Speaker 1 But she's saying, you know, I'm all in. Cause I ain't even mean to call it.
Who would have thought that leaving with me?

Speaker 1 Had the audacity to text this bitch.

Speaker 1 Had the audacity to kiss this bitch. Let alone the audacity to sex this bitch.
Amen.

Speaker 1 That's the Audacity. Listen, Jaquees, and Rob Fortuna.
That was hard.

Speaker 1 That was hard.

Speaker 1 Big Mel.

Speaker 2 Mine is by Aaron Frazier. It's called Have Mercy.

Speaker 1 It's my shit. I played it before, but I don't care.
I love his work. I don't care.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I got this.

Speaker 1 Don't care.

Speaker 1 Don't care.

Speaker 1 That shit fired. It was like a year, it might have been two years ago I played this.
Well, then that wouldn't have been. Bail around.
Bail around.

Speaker 1 It's a great record, so

Speaker 1 he put on tape this year that's fired, too.

Speaker 1 Didn't know a thing about it,

Speaker 1 but I knew enough to know

Speaker 1 if I was gonna be around you, it'd be too hard for me to take it slow.

Speaker 1 Well, my heart started racing, and I took the place of your shadow.

Speaker 1 I went all in, and that's when I knew nothing else mattered.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry,

Speaker 1 Lord

Speaker 1 Messer,

Speaker 1 how high.

Speaker 1 Never been afraid of falling,

Speaker 1 but I've never been so happy before.

Speaker 1 I just wanna praise you, darling, for giving your love to me and so much more.

Speaker 1 You see me for the one that I am when the others are blind.

Speaker 1 If you leave me, believe me, I still wouldn't treat you unkind.

Speaker 1 So I'm asking, baby.

Speaker 1 Got me on my knees hanging.

Speaker 1 Don't you hurt me, baby. Ooh.

Speaker 1 Have a son

Speaker 1 Don't you hurt me, baby.

Speaker 1 You see me for the one that I am when the others are blind.

Speaker 1 If you leave me, believe me, I still wouldn't treat you unkind.

Speaker 1 So I'm asking, baby,

Speaker 1 I must say,

Speaker 1 Lord

Speaker 1 Mercy and me,

Speaker 1 baby.

Speaker 1 That is the smooth sounds of Aaron Frazier with Have Mercy.

Speaker 1 That shit reminds me like Smokey Rock. Yeah, he's smoky ass.
Have a fire. That's fine.
Yeah, he's super smoke. You have a sleeper?

Speaker 1 I'm on his his got one too. Oh,

Speaker 1 you know, I'll be forgetting about the

Speaker 1 disrespectful. Forget about the one nigga who actually did it.
You guys confused over it. I mean, you just started really doing it.
You just started doing sleep.

Speaker 1 You started doing a lot of shit up here, huh? Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Who, Alex?

Speaker 1 Y'all finished? All right. My sleeper is pissing at the side.

Speaker 1 You might win somebody losing a lot.

Speaker 1 You lost the biggest shit in your life, boy, didn't you? Yep. Rest in peace.
Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 My sleeper is me,

Speaker 1 ATL.

Speaker 1 Every single.

Speaker 1 I ain't mad at that.

Speaker 1 He cooled down on the fire.

Speaker 1 Why you gotta do it? We on the same side, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck that nigga.

Speaker 1 I've been focused on you.

Speaker 1 And nobody else

Speaker 1 facing the truth.

Speaker 1 Can't do without you.

Speaker 1 Can't do without you.

Speaker 1 I think we should move that line up on our lives.

Speaker 1 Come alive, come alive. Nothing else in the loop.
Give it tag,

Speaker 1 give it a chance.

Speaker 1 Let me change your mind.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 let me change your mind.

Speaker 1 Girl, I know how you feel.

Speaker 1 I know the change ain't feeling good.

Speaker 1 If I go and you stay, would this be easy to replace?

Speaker 1 If you send me back to the streets, I'm back to the old me.

Speaker 1 But I don't want nobody else laying beside me.

Speaker 1 Touching your body, you know that it's on me. Say that you trust me, that would just come be.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 let me change your mind.

Speaker 1 Let me change your mind.

Speaker 1 Change your mind.

Speaker 1 Let me change your mind. Let me change your mind.

Speaker 1 Let me change your mind. Let me change your mind.

Speaker 1 I think we should boot out lighter

Speaker 1 back up.

Speaker 1 Come alive, come alive.

Speaker 1 Give it a chance.

Speaker 1 I think we should boot out lighter.

Speaker 1 Back a bag.

Speaker 1 Come alive.

Speaker 1 Nothing to lose in the

Speaker 1 give it a tag,

Speaker 1 give it a chance.

Speaker 1 Nothing change your mind.

Speaker 1 That's Imani ATL. Fire.
What's up with the movie Atlanta? Shit, you good? Like, you want some, you trying to explore different options?

Speaker 1 It was, it was, it was, uh, the moment.

Speaker 1 What moment? Like, you, I know, I know sometimes, you know, when we get a lot of, I heard when you get a lot of sex, you, you may want to, no disrespect, you may want to explore different things.

Speaker 1 You want want some type of freaky shit? Like,

Speaker 1 but how do you, how does that correlate to? Oh, think about it when you have time. And don't come back and attack me when you put it into your situation.
Think about it. When you have time.

Speaker 1 What's up, Mo? You got a sleeping baby? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's from one of my favorite albums this season, Corday's album.
Album. Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Corday. She's about to play Cassidy or something.
Nah, it's next week.

Speaker 1 Summer drop with Anderson Pat.

Speaker 1 What had happened? What had happened? Bro, that ain't Parks no more. Yeah, no, it ain't.
Shit happens.

Speaker 1 Parks is fucked up right now. He's got a black eye.
I'm injured, man. Got my bag.
A little concussion. Concussion, man.
Headaches.

Speaker 1 Pussy popping with the churches, pinnacle, candy painted, new and polo spinners on a bus. I dropped the summer drop.
Niggas knocking sweatshirts, picking pockets, mall, hopping renting, copping.

Speaker 1 We ain't got nothing.

Speaker 1 I'm the summer

Speaker 1 Fat boy with braces, A1s and glasses. When the summer drop, I wanted to make beats and rap.
My big brother said I need an NPC for that. that.
Next summer, I was cooking up an Easter batch.

Speaker 1 Egg selling sandwiches, I used to feed for that. When the summer, I got cashed and blew it down.
Back on tour, I guess I'm going overseas for that.

Speaker 1 When the summer drops, pussy popping with the churches, pin a costa. Candy painted new and pilot spinners on the plus.
I draw the summer drop. Niggas knockin' sweatshirts, picking pockets more.

Speaker 1 Hoppin' rent and cup and we ain't got no fucking drinks.

Speaker 1 I worked at the barber shop. I swept up the hair from under the chair.
couldn't talk a lot. I saved up the whole summer, that's high.
I got school clothes. I bought some pumas and some fake chains.

Speaker 1 That was fool's gold. My nigga, what you know about those hot summers? No air condition.
My niggas got rare ambition, but pain impaired division.

Speaker 1 I done lost so many homies and summers I cherish living. Nobody cared to listen, they suffer from their decisions.

Speaker 1 Never hit that 7-Eleven on bend and roll. While wearing them trendy clothes, pick up niggas like give me those.
Tis the season. They robbing and scheming to knock your block out.

Speaker 1 Just make sure you safe when it's hot out

Speaker 1 Niggas knockin' sweat shirts, pickin' pockets mall Hop it rin the cop and we ain't got no fucking options

Speaker 1 Pussy poppin' with the churches Pinnacle candy painted new impiles

Speaker 1 Niggas knockin' sweat shirts, pickin' pockets mall Hop it rin the cop it, we ain't got no fucking options

Speaker 1 That's Corday, summer drop with Anderson Pack. And I believe J.
Cole produced that as well. He did a couple of records on Corday's album.

Speaker 1 That's the definition of keeping your head down, minding your business, and getting to it. Yep, it's working.
Gotta respect it. Yo, good show, y'all.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 Excellent show.

Speaker 1 Excellent show, man. Give yourself a little round of applause, man.
Good show, man. Thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Mark trying to put see mark trying to put me in the headlock and whisper you doing your thing like

Speaker 1 don't try to give me no headlock man this show man that's how we do it

Speaker 1 take some props man that's cool

Speaker 1 hey mike flip man no i don't like props

Speaker 1 it adds pressure all of our love with joe too yeah

Speaker 1 for sure yeah let y'all know we love you boy i know y'all

Speaker 1 your viewership is They don't care, but you don't give a fuck. We do.
We care. We care for you.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I mean, he put it together and we stepped up to the plate. Exactly.
We put it together.

Speaker 1 It's a teamwork, man. This shit is teamwork.
And today was a great show. I like when E come outside smiling.
Nigga, even a nigga. Everything fucked me up today, y'all.
I was sitting on the wire.

Speaker 1 The nigga didn't even tell me, excuse me. He came and pulled the shit from under me and moved me.

Speaker 1 He don't be playing when it comes to this shit.

Speaker 1 I ain't like that shit. I bought up to one of the cameras one day.
That nigga ran outside with a banger. I was like, nigga,

Speaker 1 nigga, moving one, watch what happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I showed that.

Speaker 1 I kicked that shit by mistake. He's like, oh, my God, damn it.
You hear him at the back. Oh, fuck.
Fuck.

Speaker 1 He don't have no

Speaker 1 middle.

Speaker 1 Extremely nice or extremely aggressive.

Speaker 1 I like it. I respect it.
That's called producing, though. Yeah, it is, man.

Speaker 1 Shout out to y'all. We got a little bit of breaking news real quick.
We could probably talk about it on Patreon, but

Speaker 1 NBA Youngboy was officially sentenced to

Speaker 1 23 months in prison and 60 months probation. Okay.
So we probably get into it on Patreon. Let's get to it on Patreon.
Can we give you a quick rest in peace to the legendary Nikki Giovanni Greater?

Speaker 1 poet who passed away yesterday at the age of 81 one of our legends returned to the ancestors sending love to her and her family versus patriarchy and mark i i i was doing some thinking right like work

Speaker 1 oh

Speaker 1 well it's okay it's okay are you are you yeah i know you had to say hey i'm gonna get yo i'm gonna turn up i'm gonna turn up and reneck and take it out

Speaker 1 i'm gonna ask you a question mark Are you fully like for the culture?

Speaker 1 Sometimes you dibble and dabble.

Speaker 1 Dibble and dabble. Yeah, I mean, you you know, I'll dibble and dabble nothing, man.
I know you're married, but you fucking drink. I let my watch talk.

Speaker 1 Would Dark Umar be proud of you?

Speaker 1 Bah, what up, homie? My watch saying hi, Shootie. We good.

Speaker 1 Umar wasn't coming in. They're gonna be salty Umar not coming in.
He was tweeting today, as Umar in there right now. Was going back and forth.
Umar gonna be up here.

Speaker 1 We rescheduled, you know, and we're gonna do that. And it's gonna be a good conversation.
I can't wait either, man. I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 I'm watching you.

Speaker 1 I'm solid. Hey, yo, listen.
That's right.

Speaker 1 Classic show,

Speaker 1 Same.

Speaker 1 We all have to work together. One team, one dream.

Speaker 1 Whatever it is.

Speaker 1 I plan on going to deep down in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 You go to see the guys? You go to the McDonald's tuna?

Speaker 1 I got some plans to do. Yeah, I'm going down to Pennsylvania to do some work.
We got a proper improv tomorrow. Listen, I do have a problem in props tomorrow.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 I plan on going to Europe and I plan on going to Argentina before the month is out. So I got to say,

Speaker 1 dope, dope.

Speaker 1 Dope.

Speaker 1 Before the month is out? That's a fire chicken.

Speaker 1 You're a rich friend. That's some work to keep fire chicken niggas.

Speaker 1 Niggas is killing.

Speaker 1 I got a study. In Argentina, they whitewashed Argentina.
I've been doing a lot of studies over here.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get that to the bottom of it.

Speaker 2 A lot of the Nazis

Speaker 1 fled to Argentina. Yeah, foots on ground.

Speaker 1 I'm going to, you know, Queen Filipino get down to the bottom.

Speaker 1 Don't fly for me, Argentina.

Speaker 1 Or they do a cappella. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 Continue. Go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 1 I know how the rest of that shit goes.

Speaker 1 What are you doing this week?

Speaker 1 Working?

Speaker 2 I gotta tape an episode tomorrow of Hot and Bothered. That's your new studio? No, it's my soon-to-be-old studio.
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 Got you.

Speaker 1 Fighting anybody?

Speaker 1 Fighting anybody?

Speaker 1 Not yet.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 Any plans? Nah, I got no plans. Working, traveling, going up to the Apollo tonight.
Hopefully, we'll finally watch this Luther Vandros documentary. They're doing a special screening up at the Apollo.

Speaker 1 Spot. Really? Yeah.
Yeah. Is it dope?

Speaker 1 I've been stalling. No.
No, I'm saying. How do you feel that's saying that's dope?

Speaker 1 You had me hype this down. Yo, listen, listen, I be in Harlem a lot, and Apollo has been doing a bunch of dope events.
A lot of dope events.

Speaker 1 Like, literally, for us to really want to be able to do that. They'll let you back in Harlem? You're gonna use the bathroom again.
Look,

Speaker 1 hold on. They let you in.

Speaker 1 Excuse me. Because before they, you know, who's before they excorded you? No one exclaimed anything with me in response to the broken.
I'm talking cameras on. Nothing.
I'm not getting intense.

Speaker 1 Yo, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna let them look.
We're gonna let them up.

Speaker 1 JVP.

Speaker 1 Thank you for tuning in.

Speaker 1 Joe's fine.

Speaker 1 JBP, JVP. Where would you be without the JVP?

Speaker 1 It's hard to hear.

Speaker 1 It's got a bad issue. And it's 315 too.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.