
Episode 770 | "Mr. Plus 1"
The JBP kicks off the latest episode with questions for Ish after he was spotted courtside with Marc Lamont Hill at the Sixers & Bucks game earlier this week (22:25) before Joe discusses speaking at Steve Stoute’s SelectCon NYC event (27:44). Lil Durk has been arrested over an alleged murder-for-hire plot as the room shares what information has been made available to the public (30:30) and the difficulty in podcasting about such stories (57:30). In new music, Summer Walker drops a new single ‘Heart Of A Woman’ (1:35:36), the crew debates if the Menendez Brothers should be granted parole (1:46:15), as well as whether Joe had any disagreements with Punch TDE’s tweet about Hip Hop Journalism (2:01:55). Also, **TRIGGER WARNING** a mother is suing an AI company over the death of her son (2:33:20), E. coli outbreaks (2:48:50), Part of the Show (3:03:19), and much more.
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Bitch, nigga, I can't live in two as a grown man,
nigga.
Yo, y'all niggas just love y'all
dads. That's all.
No, not you.
My business.
We've been around. Yeah, we ain't talking to you.
We're talking to J-Won and Ish.
I don't even know what you niggas is talking to. Y'all n niggas is talking.
J-Won did an interview. We interviewed his dad.
Fire. He could not stop showing his teeth the whole time.
That was hot. Like, with every story kids told, J-Won, even the Diddy story, yo, I was at the puff party.
J-Won looking up just like a proud son. Yeah.
Teeth wouldn't stop showing.
Man, you had dimples.
Yeah.
You had dimples in your face.
You ain't look hard to me, nigga. You look like a proper student, nigga.
You look like, yo, I love my dad so much, and he just wasn't around for me.
Yeah, he wasn't around.
And then he wouldn't have more kids that he fucking held down.
Then he said that powerful line.
Yeah. Oh, and then he was about to more kids that he fucking held down then he said that powerful line oh and then he was about to cry you tried to hit him no not you well yeah you no not you but yeah you you tried to hit him with the trick question but kids from the old school yo what's your greatest gift kids said you nigga if you don't get the fuck out of here with this trick, annoying-ass question, you.
Now, I love you, yo. Goddamn.
I know you mad about some shit, but... No, we didn't.
They had them already. Yo, don't interrupt with the truth.
We don't give a fuck. We going with the lies? Yes.
And on top of that, you ain't know he was going to say that? Did you know that you was his greatest gift? No, I thought he was going to say something else. Exactly.
We know that. Yo, clap it up for J-Wan.
Me and Jay the kids. Hey, yo.
When he said that. The Denny party shit, though, I expected that.
I started dying. I couldn't help that one.
When he said that, J-Wan, it looked like it was Christmas time for you, nigga. You know, when you're a kid and you get that big gift, you just look happy.
That shit made me feel good. That was the big block? I I don't know if you're a great gift But I ain't even talking about the kids I don't know if you're a greater gift than his rapping ability Look That's what you would have said That's what you would have said How you gonna tell nigga Sunday? No, that's what he would have said So what's your greatest gift greatest gift? I mean, my children.
And when you have kids, you'll understand that this dad answers. When I ask my mom who her favorite kid is, she say, you for six months and you for six months.
Yeah, my mom's doing that. That's the appropriate parent answer.
But in real life, in their head. Whoever needs my love at that time.
I hate that. Remember, he got to say his children.
Because Trey, listen, and Trey has a history of dissing a nigga on record. And your pops.
And he getting nicer with the pen. He getting nicer with the pen.
Well, that's not fair. I started dissing him on records first.
And his mama. So that's not didn't know that joke.
I'm sorry. So I think that he should be able to clap back.
No, you're sick. Because some of my aides be like, oh, his son's been dissing him forever.
Well, my son got the clap back gene in him like his dad, and I'm proud of that. Facts.
Yeah. Facts.
It's fucked up when you're writing those songs about their parent, like when they grow up and get to hear the songs. Yeah, but now you know what's going on now.
You know, you're 23. You know what time is.
You in the game. You being targeted.
You being targeted out there. You having your woman woes.
I love when they experience what we're experiencing. Oh, yes.
What? That's bad? Yes. Oh, man.
Why is that bad? Because. Thanks, Meryl.
You better. Give us some game.
I remember that happened to me with my relationship in college. I had on pops, like, on some Trey Joe shit.
Like, yo, bro, why you been telling me you should get like that? Nigga ain't even respond. I said, wow.
Okay, cool. I mean, I feel like there's information that you can pass down to your kids.
But then there's other things that they just have to experience. A thousand percent.
You know, bump their heads up on the wall and stuff like that. They ain't gonna listen to you anyway until they go through it.
That's it. Hey, Ish, I wanna ask you, since we told my dad, I'm gonna ask you a question.
You love your dad too, nigga. Yeah.
Who said I did? Did you ever have, did you ever have a conversation with your dad? Like, were you one of them niggas that, I lived with my father before. Yeah, but as a grown man, you said.
I lived with my father as a grown up. Yeah, did you have a conversation with him? Like, yo, nigga, what's up? Like, did you, Were you one of them niggas that, were you like, what happened, what went wrong? Or you just left it as it is and you lived in the moment? Yeah, I ain't really go through all that.
You didn't do that. You didn't go back.
Oh, you lived in the moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like that. That is what it is.
He was short. No, I wasn't.
You said that you was 5'1 until you caught your growth spurt. I was 5'3 in 12th grade.
That's very small. But when I lived with my father, I was grown.
That's not tall enough to buck at your dad. You was that high than your graduation pitcher? Yeah.
You think 5'3 is tall enough to buck at your dad? No. Yeah, come on, man.
That's like your daughter high. You know why he was quiet.
You know why he was quiet, gang. You know what it is? You so macho that, nigga, nigga, you even have a conversation with your pops at a moment of vulnerability, nigga.
That's how macho you are, nigga. Let's live in the moment, nigga.
Go cook. I'm going to cook some food for you.
I just got shot pops. I don't want to talk about none of that emotional shit, nigga.
Let's live and have fun. Did he check on you? Like, yo, you there? You know, nigga, come in from work, knock on the door of you in your room.
Yeah, I was 20-something years old, my nigga. What that mean, Ish? My my door's shut, I'm there.
What you talking about? Yo, you there? No, nigga, go sleep. That's not...
I'm good. That don't mean you there.
Is your door closed? Are you talking about when he got shot? No, I'm just saying, like, usually... In general.
Even as an adult, if you live with... With my experience, if you live with your parents, your parents will come...
When they come in the house, they'll check on you. Yo, what's up? Yo, you there? You in the room? And shit like that.
I'm asking if he experienced that. He said his dad's door was closed.
No, my door was closed. If my door closed, nigga, I'm going to sleep.
I'm asleep. Did you knock? On what? On your dad's door.
Stop. You get tight.
Stop. I'm not going to get tight.
He'll curse us out. Him and J-Won want to see it with the truth today.
I don't care about what they're about. I care about what I'm talking about.
Yo, Daddy, are you there? Dad, I got shot. Dad, what the fuck? What do I do? What do I do? I'm bleeding out.
You police, nigga. Tell me what they're doing.
I can't snitch, but you can tell them, nigga. Fuck.
He made a left. He made a left and right.
I can't, but you can tell him, niggas. Pop.
He made a left.
He made a left and right.
I can't snitch, but you can tell him, niggas.
Your pops are going to pull these fathers.
Yo, yo, we doing it for the dads today, yo.
That's the issue, man.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
My bad.
You too.
You love your dad.
Shout him out.
Yes, of course.
I love my father.
Her father passed away when she was young, though.
She still got a rap?
What that mean?
No, she said he was her hero she said that until she learned some things she said yes but I still love the memory of the man very much so we can't play it's not a feast let's bring jokes back that way you go already here Wrap it up Wrap it up Anyway back to you Alright glad y'all in a good mood Brother Freeze is not with us today But he's here in spirit Hopefully he's good Ice we love you if you're listening. Yo, Mel.
Just that fast. You heard it? It was sweet.
She's about to cry with us. I wasn't going to cry.
She's about to cry with us like we was poor minds. I swear I wasn't going to cry.
She cried on the show? Yeah, she cried. Yes, she cried on poor minds.
Shout out to Lex. Shout out to Drea.
Lex, Drea, what up, baby? We were all crying, okay? We were all crying. Based off your story? Well, no.
Shared experiences. You be doing some sad pardon.
Let me just say this, and I love you. Shut up, Corey.
If hot and bothered is gonna be like that, count me out. Please.
Don't cry. I wanna come up there.
Okay, and guess what? And guess what? When When wifey starts going through menopause and you don't clock it I wanna come up there I wanna come up there okay okay and guess what and guess what when wifey starts going through menopause and you don't know what the fuck is going on you are gonna be checking in without you my mama called me this morning about you I'ma need you I'ma come up there nobody cares about when wifey is going through we are financially manipulating our wives nigga nigga. You think niggas can?
They gotta worry about
their bills being paid and trying to get jobs and
MTAs and whatever they got.
Yeah, I'm sick of that line.
Would you like it if I did the same?
That's just a fucker.
I don't fucker.
Do it then. I don't want to do it.
What the fuck are you talking about?
To be honest, I wouldn't mind if you was paying all my bills. I'm good.
Do it then. I don't want to do it.
What the fuck are you talking about? To be honest, I wouldn't mind if you was paying all my bills.
I'm good.
That was it.
That was it.
Everything?
Go ahead.
Rock out.
That paying all your bills come with some stipulations.
People don't want to accept it.
And, dude, it's rules.
It's rules.
If I'm paying $15,000 a month in bills for you,
nigga, it's rules.
Nigga, I want shit.
I'm nigga paying $15,000 a month in bills for you, nigga, it's rules. Nigga, I want shit at the drop of a dime.
Nigga, come. If I say book a flight, you have to come.
Oh, man. Because that money can go to something else.
Like, for real. Yo, you know what? That is an important note to highlight.
And I'm glad that I didn't highlight. His rules are financially dependent.
But dead ass, if your bills are being paid to the degree of 10, 15, 20 grand a month. Yes, talk about it, Joe.
There is fine print on that contract. There is.
You need to take that to your attorney or your girlfriend
who don't got that.
And get it together. Now, we can't say
that somehow because femininism.
I can't even say the word.
What's the word? Feminism?
Feminism. Femininity?
Map. Stupid ass word..
Got stutter built in. He's right.
He's right, Mel? Mel, you know he's right, Mel. Mel, when a nigga paid your bills, you almost went into a cult.
Nigga, you was down, nigga. When a nigga paid your bills, you was down with the cause.
Bitches need to follow your rules. Follow your movement.
Give me pounds.
Mel was definitely in the cult.
I can see it.
She was in the cult.
She was in the cult.
Now she come up here to rebrand.
Yeah.
Now she come up here and we're talking about...
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God. Oh my God.
Oh my God. Oh my is the king.
The Christ of the Lord. You want to come up here and talk about menopause.
I'm preaching the house, nigga. She was in.
We don't want to hear about menopause. We want to hear about the sex cult.
We want to hear about that. When you was in the mountains of Utah.
Another story for another day. She would never tell.
That's why niggas love you. That's why she's the best.
That's why she can make a U-turn. That's why she's the best.
A lot of women can't U-turn like Mel. I can't say that part.
But Mel make U-turn because she hold it down. Like when they bump into her, like, oh, you ain't blow me up about that coat shit.
You know I was wild ass. Even when I pressed a nigga, the nigga said, I love her.
I love her.
I said, damn, she cool like that.
Yo, y'all keep making me lose my face.
My boy.
You held it down about that coat shit.
I'd be holding it down on some fucked up shit, huh?
You do, man.
You do.
Yo, shout out to the women out there that hold it down about the coat.
But the other women get offended when we say that because they're saying that.
Because you're not supposed to say that.
Yeah, they're saying that.
Yeah.
You're not supposed to say that.
That's horrible.
Yo.
Mel is your J-Warn boy.
Yo.
He's still about to cry.
That Patreon shit fucked him up.
Remember?
What?
I think it went to the bathroom.
That's the first time he went to the bathroom.
All right. We got a great show lined up for y'all.
Maybe. Maybe.
What? I think I went to the bathroom, man. That's the first time he went to the bathroom.
Alright, we got a great show lined up for y'all.
Maybe.
Uh...
Let's start with some Randy's comedy, man.
Oh, oops.
Oh!
I can...
Hey, hold up.
That's Randy coming out the pawn shop without his chains and his watches?
Oh, he done sold them shits.
He's broke!
Ha ha ha! He's popped again! Ha! Yo,key. I mean, yo, Randy, what's up? Yo, what happened, Mr.
Money Man? You coming to Oscar Stone? Pay me now? Where your chains at, blood? Nah, I just had them hold it for me for a second. Hold it? Bro, what? You mean you let them have it because you broke now.
Now you can't flex, I needed some extra cash. Oh I just made it quick 30 bands both 30 bands like it's worth it.
Nah gang. I just clock your tea.
You really pop right now We was waiting for this yeah, I was waiting for me to go broke Yeah, we was you stay showing off the bitches stay gravitating towards you
Now that I can come around you no more
Now you're not dead
I mean I pray you want to them 30 bands mag quick and I'm not letting you borrow nothing, bro
It's gonna be a cold winter. Yo yo yo what the fuck poppin man's a drama king, man.
Yo, who the hell? Who that? Fuckers. That's the sound of the man.
Rest in peace.
Can't play.
Always.
Mic shake.
One, two, one, two, one, two.
That's the sound of the man.
Crapping that thing.
Waking up out there.
Waking up out there.
We was taught not to say who shot you.
See the flash, you heard the shot.
You feel it burning.
I got you.
I don't get bread for me if you care for me because I'm on the edge.
I'm finna put a shell in a nigga head.
I rock a lot of eyes. I dare you to scheme on me The fifth got a rubber grip and a beam on me Homie, they took the hit on me, couldn't shoot They say I'm skinny now, but I look big and the cool My cousin Boozy out in L.A.
We took a few sets again I shot the fuck up, I rubbed on Mexican I write my lifestyle, your niggas is cheetahs Your lines come from feds, fellas, and don't even Oh, you the black hand of death, then why your name ain't preaching? Shout out to the mixtape rapper, always, always, always Always for the ladies, always for the ladies I'm familiar with problems, I know how to solve them Semi-automatic or your trade revolver Shoot them up, rob them, in the hook of starving You don't want problems, problems, yeah Why can't you be mad enough To tell me where you're coming from Why can't you be mad enough You take it from this town, call this my brother child Where you at, nigga? I just want to tell you, nigga, to the Mario, man This is a big credit a big president. Yo, can't really figure this clown out.
Where is he from? Jamaica, Queens, Cali, or down south? And I can let an L.A. gun hit him.
But Great Street already told me I'm paying to run with him. I can let a New York knife poke him with one of my throwaways.
But I don't want to see no cops smoke him. Somebody tell Paul we ridin' Get ready to auction off the cars You dyin' Whenever we bump head Since you like havin' people with you Get you a hospital with bunk beds Without Dr.
Dre you would just make slow jams Come up out of that witness protection program Oh don't really respect you Get in your place If Big was alive He'd have probably spit in your face Now I I've been doing just fine without you. Aska-Pak probably would have made an album about you.
So I guess that just leaves me here to get rid of you. And Rakim and them, they don't even consider you.
And know you ain't got nothing for Jada. And I know he appreciates all the money you've made him.
It's 2005, nobody fights fear. I just know an instrumental's your worst nightmare.
But tough and you bad, too bad you mad Probably been in your old hood more than you have Yeah, you sold more records than me But in the streets you gon' always be second to me We was damn near feeling you Even though your career's based off somebody damn near killing you Shit you be doing ain't even considered rapping Nah, this is probably the best thing to happen to us The best wankster, internet gangsta Magazine mobster, shit on your whole roster If they need to say Hail Marys and All Fathers Get out your black suits and hard bottoms Don't worry, I got em We ain't a problem, child Just a child with a problem We love it big face up at me what the fuck is going on Stay down, you know what I mean? Stay down, leave it through the K-Rally. It's gonna make it to me.
Shout to everybody outside this weekend. Everybody traveling, everybody.
Motherfucker. Hey, get in Queens.
I feel like you're on fire, boy, drop in the boat. Cause you get your ass off.
If they are to go, now you could be a victim. You get up, boys.
Party till the city dust net. I'm all holding me a second.
I'm all holding me a second. What's up? Yeah, Holly's playing that bully.
What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? What up? Let's go. Here you go.
Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go, girl. There you go, girl.
A little, a little Hennessy. A nigga just don't know how to act in my hood.
A nigga sees crying me. I stay on point.
I'm over my gang in my hood. A nigga's might fucking me.
So I keep something around the buck, man, in my hood. Oh, man.
You in that mood. I'm the only rap you know.
You in that mood. Feeling good, feeling great.
Feeling good, feeling great. Where'd you get that? Huh? What'd you get that? She's in a good mood.
I'm in a good mood. Good vibes, positivity throughout.
That's real violent music for a bright ass outfit. You get some good vibes.
Hey yo, and I know they cost some money. No Joe Biden.
That nigga look like a thousand dollar fresh prince. That nigga look like an ice cream cone.
No, Joe Biden. Gender reveal ready.
Gender reveal ready. That's funny.
You do, nah. Yeah, he look like, is it a boy or girl? Both.
Wait, it's twins! Ah! You hop out of cake, nigga, you lit. $500,000.
Microphone check. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.
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Poe
is in the building. Corey is here.
Erickson is
here. Savon and Tanner are here by remote
and last but certainly not least, each and every
one of you
are out there. Now,
back to my gender reveal, Alvin. I wore this to...
Daisy Age, you're De La Soul shit? Word. Three.
I wore this to Girls Love Karaoke the other night. I heard you.
I heard you was in there. Dressed like a little nicey in a room.
Let me see a sock. I heard you was in there and I heard it was all right.
Yeah. Let me see a sock.
Yeah. Oh, shit.
That's definitely what that is. What type of socks is that, nigga? Tough crowd.
Tough crowd socks. How was the karaoke? What'd you say? Girls love karaoke.
Shout out to Manny, of course. Shout out to AG, Finesse.
Girls love karaoke. Hey, hey.
And they do. They do.
They absolutely do. And they do.
They do. So, yeah, it was a real good
time over there. I got there early.
I got there at about, I
want to say, 10.30.
My guy Monty met me over there. Shout
out to E. Oh, y'all did a duet.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Nice crowd.
Nice crowd on
the early vibe. Shout out to
damn, who was
the DJ killing that shit? Who was that? First class choice i think first choice first choice first class i'm old school shout out to first choice he was absolutely and shout out to first class uh but he was smoking uh you know people are still coming in r&b set like a real r&b party set right so i was in absolute heaven uh for a few hours a lot of girls kept coming in here. Did you cut a rug? I didn't.
No, I didn't cut a rug. I sat there like the G did I be.
Did you sing? I left before anybody started singing. Wow.
I was sitting there and I hadn't taken the old nigga nap. Start yawning.
I hadn't taken a nap, you guys.
Why don't you just go hit the...
Yo, 44 is fucking me up.
Why don't you just go hit the truck for a little quick 30?
Yeah.
And eat the same.
You're right.
I don't have to live like that today.
Go in the truck, take a nap, and then go back out.
Like, I'm never that thirsty for the party.
So I'm sitting there.
I'm getting tired.
I'm hungry. I'm hungry.
I'm sitting there battling the discipline to eat after 10 p.m., 11 p.m. So I left.
I went home. Went to bed.
Didn't hit a strip club. Didn't see Bernice sing.
Didn't see nobody sing a thing. Damn.
Damn. Was there when Tiana came in? Shout out to Tiana Taylor.
It was a good crowd in there. Good vibe.
Davies, everybody. But yeah, I'm going to bed.
I'm going to bed. I see that's one of them things I got to come to at midnight.
Probably, yeah. Yeah, I got to come here late.
But really good crowd in there. Just real nice time.
Looked like it. Real nice time.
Real nice time in there.
It looked like it.
Why are you making that little stupid face?
No, it looked like it. You'd have fun.
No, a couple people hit me.
I was like, y'all seen Joe come in while you wasn't with Joe?
I was like, oh.
Did you tell them you don't be with Joe?
You was at the game?
Was that the day that you went to the game with Mark?
Oh, shit. Floor seat?
I thought that that was AI.
The picture.
It was floating around.
Antoine-ish, nigga.
That was mean.
That was mean.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
He might be a rapper.
Antoine-ish is AI in initials when you break it down. No, for real.
Why are you going to let her get that shot? Let me ask you a question. How did that happen? What? How did you end up? The basketball deep.
Yeah, the basketball, the bromance. The bro vision.
How did that happen? Nothing. Mark hit me.
He was like, yo, what you doing? I'm like, shit, what's going on? He said, yo, I got tickets to the game. You want to go to the game? I was like, who they playing? He said, the Bucs.
I'm like, hell yeah. So you drove down there? Yeah.
So you went to the game, but you spilled coffee on my clothes in your car when you dropped me home. And you put my shit in the cleaners and you didn't, but you on the floor at a game, nigga.
I got you. On ESPN.
On ESPN. And you look good.
Thank you. I didn't like that shit.
No, don't thank me, nigga. I wasn't happy.
I'm trying to get on. I'm looking at these two stupid niggas.
I was hanging on y'all niggas. Look at these fools, nigga.
They sent me the picture. I'm like, oh, come on, Ish.
You didn't invite nobody, neither. Well, he was the plus one.
Yeah, I was about to say, I'm going to invite somebody, some shit. That's the problem.
Everybody invites you places, but you don't invite anybody. It's a pattern.
That's your bag. That's how you get away with shit.
You're always invited. Why you didn't invite me? I'm a plus one.
That's just shit. You missed a plus one.
There you go. No, nigga.
Make me your plus one. All right.
You ashamed of us.
Yo, make me your plus one.
Ugh.
You missed a... I got you.
And it speaks volumes that people prefer you to be their plus one.
I appreciate that.
I know what you do.
You do that stupid lip trick.
He was doing that on the Corsair?
Yeah, he did that on the Corsair.
Sitting there talking a hole in Mark Lamont.
Ew.
No, not one.
Shut the fuck up. Y'all had a super bromance after that.
Holy shit. Y'all were really twinning.
They bonded. That's stupid.
No, the game was a runaway. It wasn't really close.
So we were just kicking it. Like the game wasn't fun.
It wasn't, you know what I'm saying? Because it wasn't close. They was losing by day in their 20 half the game.
You talking about Philly was losing? Yeah. What do you talk about at a game like that? They were podding.
Really basketball shit for the most part. On the court while a game is going on? You analyzing? Yeah, that's literally what was going on.
That nigga not that good. He overrated.
Stop talking. Saying a nigga in the league is overrated or not that good.
Just watch the game, nigga. Catch a vibe.
Courtside look cool. That's eight, Joey.
Why you can't just look. I hate him, too.
Nah, just look cool. Nigga, the cameras is about to pan your way.
I didn't even know the game was on ESPN or none of that. I didn't know that.
Superstar-ish. Did you know it was the season opener? Yeah, but I didn't know that.
I mean, well, Philly Bucks would be televised,illy Bucks would be televised But I wasn't thinking about that Did you see Stephen A right there? No I ain't seen him But it's cool Stupid Did Stephen A see you? I don't know Stephen A was there? I don't know, nigga I ain't see your game, nigga You think I seen you on my TV? Hell no, nigga I seen you on Reddit I seen you on Reddit, nigga I seen you on my TV? I don't know, nigga. I seen you on Reddit.
I seen you on Reddit, nigga.
I seen you on Reddit, nigga.
I see you on the internet, y'all.
See you on Reddit.
You're looking good, though. You look good, though.
Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.
You run into a lot of fans?
Yeah, a couple. A couple.
Okay. Philly is.
I didn't know you
and Mark was that close.
That's cool.
Huh? When y'all exchange numbers. When y'all exchange phone numbers.
Yo, dawg, what's wrong with you, son? It's a valid question. Why is it valid? Because Joe said it.
That conversation looked deep as hell. The only reason we didn't congratulate you when he announced you on the pod was.
It wasn't personal. That is what he was saying.
He was saying some pod shit. Yo, Nas, you really are great help to all of us.
On camera. Don't argue with the community.
They're just going to hate you. Yeah.
You're going to give them some pod tips while the game is on. The game is playing, bro.
I didn't know we was on TV. He didn't stay for Patreon, nigga, so we don't know when the numbers switch.
You know what I'm saying? I'm going to get down to the bottom of this shit, that little bromance you had going on. I told y'all.
I told y'all. Oh, Mark is here on Wednesdays.
One day off for everybody. Wednesdays? For a month.
Yeah, well, Tuesdays. Tuesdays, but Wednesday pot.
That's it.
Nothing to figure out.
Nothing to figure out.
No, I'm good. Everything is cool.
I'm good.
I got three days off.
I'm high.
I'm high.
Look like she...
She tight.
I got three days off.
She don't like that shit.
Hey, yo.
Hmm.
Your girl? What did I do now? You know what you did. I swear I don't like that shit.
Hey, yo. Your girl?
What did I do now?
You know what you did.
I swear I don't.
You text me.
You tried to press me this week.
Oh, nigga, I'm done with y'all.
I'm done with y'all.
Got it.
No, it's nothing bad.
It's nothing bad.
Got you?
Yeah, it's all love.
All right.
No, it's all love.
And then I went to speak at the Steve Stout shit.
How's that? The other day. I saw you up there Shining What do you mean shining? That The lights was bright I bet Oh he had it all out? What? Like titties You wore the ring? Yeah He wore the.
Pulled the sleeve off so they could see it.
You know, because, you know, I got nigga brain.
You know, I got my gut.
My gut tell me what to do.
You know what I mean?
I'm be in these rooms.
That's a big gut.
And the money, you know what I'm saying, be all over.
I heard your corny joke.
It be all over the place.
You know, my gut, you know, I got to rule with the gut.
I come from the niggas outside the streets.
You watching my clip.
You watching my clip from the game, nigga? You stupid. I had a good time.
I don't normally speak on those types of panels and things of that nature, but Steve called his favor and we had a good time. That's my man.
I showed up. Had a good time.
A lot of people there. Was it just you and Steve on the panel or no? It was just him and I that
spoke at that time. Gotcha.
I think he
spoke to 50. I think he spoke to Cam.
I saw a Cam
clip too, I think. I saw a Cam clip.
I saw a 50 clip.
But. And the
ride into Brooklyn wasn't so bad. It was
an hour, but it was an hour in motion.
You took that scenic route that we were talking about at the party?
No. No.
It was in
Brooklyn. It was at their office.
Yeah, it was in Brooklyn.
It was in Brooklyn. I don't know who's office.
I don't know. I get the address.
I give it to the driver. I go.
But it was no traffic. But it was no traffic.
Rich shit. So that was smooth.
Rich shit. Dumb of us.
Yeah. Stupid us.
And I went to the black-owned restaurant over here that Mel gave the review on. Which one? On that other part.
I'm not going to say, but the one that Mel spoke about. Oh, yeah.
And that was cool. Yeah, that was real nice, too.
Nice. Yeah.
Shit was good. Oh, that was that big-ass paella.
Yes. That shit was huge.
Pause. Yeah, it was good, though.
Did you bump into anybody at Steveattler bed? No. It was crowded?
Yeah, it was a lot of people in there.
Gotcha.
How would I bump into somebody?
I don't do communal green rooms.
I thought you did.
I'm sorry. Those days, never that.
It's two people in there.
Peasantry for them.
In a communal green room.
That's how I got punched in the face.
Communal green room. Anybody just walk in the door.
Hey, there you go. There you go.
Yo, you ain't saying. Yeah, I ain't.
Stupid, yo. Communal green room is exactly where they want to come talk about what I said on the pod.
Never that. No, but good times.
Shout out to Steve Stout man
Fun fun fun
Alright
Let's get right to it
Let's get right to it
Where would you guys
Like to begin
Dirk
Yes
Okay
So we start with Dirk
The fed snatched Dirk
Or the marshal
The US marshals
Snatched
Dirk
That's Florida right
Yes
Broward
Broward yes
Yeah
Thank you. Dirk or the U.S.
Marshals snatched Dirk. That's Florida,
right? Yes. Broward, yes.
Y'all know any hoes from over there?
Probably. Y'all definitely know some Broward
County hoes, for sure.
Possibly. They need a segment on the Patreon.
Shout out to y'all out there.
Broward County? Yeah.
Special? Yeah. Better than Dade?
Different from Dade.
Different from Dade.
What's the problem? on. Shout out to y'all out there.
In Broward County? Yeah. It's special? Yeah.
Better than Dade? Different from Dade. Different from Dade.
What cities are in Broward? It's all Miami, I think. Oh, is it? Ain't that like the south end of it? It's a way.
That's where Kodak from. Exactly.
Kodak from. So it makes sense.
Just take Kodak and take it. Exactly.
This is down there. But anyway, so they snatched him in Florida along with five other people.
Chicago, yes. That are from Chicago.
And this is murder for hire. This is sad.
That's his charge. That's the allegations.
Supposedly he organized a hit. Yeah.
And they're saying that this goes back to when King Von was killed. One of Quando Rondo's people.
Yeah, Quando Rondo's man died with him in L. Right? During that shootout.
So the feds are saying that plane tickets and rental cars or whatever were purchased and rented through OTF cards.
They're saying they have more information about who paid for this murder fire, but they haven't released that yet.
All signs are pointing to they're going to try to pin this on Dirk. That's what I got for you.
If that's blurry, then Google it. I'm not here to be a journalist.
I'm here to talk about the real aspect of it, which is just what the fuck? What the fuck? I feel like, you know, with respect to Dirk, I feel like he knew something was coming because, you know, during his birthday he paid homage to all the fallen soldiers in Chicago. I mean, he's been trying to really change up the image and the whole Chicago drill dissing ops.
You know, he put everybody on the screen on his birthday. He did a birthday concert in Chicago.
And even the people, I mean, everybody was on that picture. He had the ops up there? Yeah, everybody just paying respects to all the fallen soldiers.
And in retrospect, when I think about it, it's like I felt like he knew something was coming. And he just wanted to distance himself from that, whether they were investigating, whether he got wind that they were looking into things, I just think he wanted to move himself from that and portray a cleaner image.
Or he probably felt that inside. He probably felt inside that it's time for me to get away from that because too many people are dying.
Because Dirk went through a lot. I think it could be true what you're saying.
I think also when you get removed from the jungle, you know what I'm saying? Like you lose some of that. And then, you know, when you start getting a certain type of paper, because I'm sure he's far removed from the hustling, hustling days.
You know what I'm saying? And then you start surrounding yourself with some more positive people. I'm sure some of the OGs talking to them.
You know what I'm saying? You start seeing that this shit is self-destructive for us as a people. You know what I mean? So you start trying to pivot away from that and kind of you owe it to yourself to instill some shit in some younger people.
You know what I'm saying? So they don't make the same mistakes you made. So I think that's where he...
Like, I've heard him talk a couple times. That's the type of time he was on, supposedly.
He lost a lot of people in his life. Yeah.
Unfortunately, when you're around these people, I've been around him a lot of times. He's a nice guy.
And sometimes our environment makes us, you know, who we are. That's true.
Right? Our environment, I'm trying to get away from that. You'd be surprised how these people who lose so much people and seen so much in their life when you just have a conversation, they're just like you and I.
You know what I mean? Sometimes environment, circumstances, and whatever. The jungle.
Just the jungle. You're in the jungle.
Make you who you are. You're going to be a wolf, you're going to be a lion, a survivor in the jungle.
But once you're removed, you might become a, you know what I mean? Just a regular stand-up citizen, I think, that they might. A lot of us, you know what I'm saying? Kids grow up in the inner city like that on some survival instinctive shit.
And then when you get removed, you change your tone. And it's hard to talk about, for me, it's just hard to talk about these things.
But it's not hard, even if you have a relationship, because you don't know who you're affecting on the other side. So you have to be mindful when people have accusations against them and how you speak about them.
I can speak from personal relationships, but I don't want to take away from anyone who may have suffered or feel that they allegedly suffered from the situation. Yeah.
I'm tired of seeing up-and-coming rappers either lose their lives or get incarcerated to shit like this. And I'm tired of seeing all the...
I saw J-Won tweeting earlier, and I see people responding to it. And it's like, why does everyone know so much about it? And that was one thing.
This should not be happening, A. And if it is happening, it shouldn't be public information on the internet that everybody's talking about like SportsCenter.
It's fucking weird. Yeah, that's the part of it I don't like.
It's no reason we should know so much before the case is even over even with it being public and people making whole videos it makes it like it's in the name of content I don't think problems like this should be made in the name of content like you feel me like that's almost cop work that's like we all come from where we come from we see nigg yo, bro, we ain't talking about that right now, you feel me? Wait till it happened, then we talk about it, but you got poindexters and nerds on social media just talking about it from a standpoint, and then you got people who's just looking at it like, fuck him, throw away the key, and some people may feel like that, but then it's also looking at it from the standpoint of like, he's lost people, they've lost people.
To just think, now they got the money, forget all about it.
It's like, it takes the human side out of it.
Like money isn't going to make somebody forget about all the friends
and family members they lost and no longer grieve.
You can't tell a person how to grieve just because they got money.
Mel?
Thank you. grieve.
You can't tell a person how to grieve just because they got money. Mel? What? She on your timing.
She be outside, nigga. I am not outside.
I'm just asking what you thought of everything. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
She was thinking about Ariana Grande. I'm not thinking about Ariana Grande.
I'm not thinking about Ariana Grande. I'm thinking that you guys hit the nail on the head.
Parks' observation and Jaywon's observation is correct. Like, the fact that this is fodder for everybody to talk about before all the facts are out, it's just this isn't, we have created this atmosphere in which content is everything and it really actually isn't because so many of the facts get mixed up in fiction and it just kind of dilutes the whole situation.
So that's just my perspective. It's by design though, right? Like we have to acknowledge that.
Facts. It's by design.
These drama-filled crimes. I'm gonna kill you.
Hey, Freeze, I'm going to kill you, boy. Yo.
Hey, Freeze, when you make it to work, I'm going to kick your ass. I got a trick for these niggas.
Damn. Oh, those are nice.
Oh, my God. Okay.
Okay. Okay.
So what y'all were saying, we praying for Dirk, and it must be hard to come from where he come from. What'd you say? What y'all were saying? Yeah, we said all that.
Right there. Said it's by design.
Got it. Okay.
Next topic. You don't have an opinion? I have quite a few opinions.
But I don't know if this is the room for them
now that I've heard y'all.
Maybe y'all are right.
No, wait, hold on.
No, nigga.
You can't.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Because niggas that say something crazy,
they're still following you.
I don't think nobody said nothing crazy. I know, I'm just saying.
You might just differ in opinion. I'm threatening niggas to say something crazy.
That's what I'm saying. I'm just bothering you.
But I want to hear your opinion. I think this shit is stupid.
I think this shit is stupid. And I'm not going to sit here and, oh, dirt came from where he came from.
He'll have his day. He'll have his day in court.
So we'll see what part he has played in any of this. But that to the side, like I was telling Jaywon earlier, King Vaughn and and Young Boy Beef wasn't over nothing.
It wasn't over absolutely nothing. So it start there for me.
I ain't got to get into where everybody came from and what we've seen and what we've witnessed and who's shot and who got killed. Y'all niggas don't be fighting over nothing.
That was nothing. So now for that to escalate to the shit we witnessed in the parking lot with Vaughn and it was going to be carryover from that, we saw Kwando Rondo reach out to fucking, what was that, Big U? We've seen him for a few years look afraid for his life.
We've seen this all. So, I mean, I don't want to add, we know too much.
These niggas is putting it in songs. These niggas is putting it on Instagram reels.
These niggas are detailing and laying these things out.
And the cops have always been online since
online been there.
They're watching.
Niggas at some point
have to hold themselves accountable
for the part they play in a
designed ecosystem.
I agree with that. That's what I'm saying.
So this is real unfortunate. And these are some of the same details that came up in the in the ysl case and these are some of the listen the rico lady down there said yo we coming with ricos now like if that didn't send the memo to people hey we are aggressively targeting y'all entertainers and rappers that are blurring the lines with your companies and your street ties.
I'm on the other edge of this. Have at it.
I'm mad I even got to come in here and talk about some of this shit. But the only reason I'm on the other edge of this is because we seen like from the older artists, right? And we seen and experienced.
Oh, they not like that. They're not like that.
You feel me? And we always hear this. That artist not like that.
They not on that. Now you see in a generation where artists are actually doing the things they saying.
And it's like, now you have the older artists saying, oh, them niggas are stupid. But for years, we heard y'all calling each other out saying, oh, he ain't on that.
He ain't like that. And there's no guidance.
There's no, yo, don't do it that way. Let me show you how to do it.
The only person who tried to do that is Wallow. And he was not even able to give guidance because he's in a position now where he can tell you where everything already started.
There was no artist that took none of the younger artists from when they came in and was like, yo, hold on. I've been down that road.
Let me guide you and show you how to switch it around. And that's why I have a disdain for, I would say, some of the older artists or the people on social media judging how everything's playing out because you got to remember, we all around the same age, at least me and these artists.
There's no, yo, little bro, this ain't how you do that. You feel me? They wait till it happen and then chastise us.
But a lot of times the young niggas don't listen anyway. Niggas will listen to an old nigga who's coming from where it feels sincere.
When it don't feel sincere and it feel like you talking at us, then you're gonna get that pushback. So how do you deliver a message if I'm speaking to you from what I know and my experience and this is the way I know how to convey the message? Why take it so personal instead of absorbing the knowledge? I had niggas do that to me where at a young age I took it personal until I realized, like, nigga, no, he was just, that was the way that he conveyed his message, and I should have listened because he ended up, whatever he said ended up happening.
No, I feel like there's two ways to answer that. Like, one, it's hard to listen to a nigga who you feel you may have more money or emotion than.
That's one. That's big.
Two, and it's how the message is said and the tone in which it's conveyed. Like, it's always, like, we had this conversation last pod.
It's the tone in which a person addresses you and brings it to you. Like, I would say, from how I've seen it, and we've seen different interviews where older artists be like, oh, these niggas are stupid.
It's how they say it. The only one we've really seen come from a place of life.
It sound like they cared sincerely was Wallow. And we've seen them do that with Thug in them and with Dirk in them.
It's really a matter of how you say it. I don't even like you saying that.
By the time it get to Wallow, something is wrong. No, by the time it got to Wallow.
That was my point. That's what I was saying.
It really was in motion. No, but that's the time it get to wallow something is wrong no by the time it got to wallow that was my point that's what I was saying it really was in motion we already are murdering niggas yeah you coming to wallow to promote your album you're coming to wallow to do a podcast it just so happens he gonna give you the good word while you're here on your album rollout that means that this shit that's been in play the problem has been been in effect i don't know what all this shit y'all saying has to do with senseless killing to me like it's just senseless now yeah i don't think you should need 50 cent to come and say don't pay people to murder people nor do right like oh my god and And if somebody got to say, yo, don't rent a car in your name and give it to somebody to kill somebody, we pass mentorship.
That's true.
Not just that.
We pass mentorship.
One.
And two, you talking about it's hard to respect things when you got more money and more emotion.
We've had this talk up here before, too. What they're doing in the streets today is going off how many bodies you got so now you asking listen to what you asking for old ogs to do you're asking for us to go and insert ourselves in the fray of niggas with five seven ten fifteen twenty bodies yes who Who is volunteering to do that? At 18.
At 19 years. Who is volunteering to do that? Not I.
And I think I just think with Jake I'm not disagreeing with what he's saying because that's happening but this ain't about hip hop. These people were already in this life prior to becoming rappers I'm assuming.
You get what I'm saying? like this ain't about hip-hop. These people were already in this life prior to becoming rappers, I'm assuming.
You get what I'm saying? This ain't about hip-hop. So like I said, these niggas that's in the jungle, bro.
When you're in the jungle, you're going to live by jungle rules, and that's what they're doing. So I don't want to blame this on no old-haired hip-hop artists and think that they are lacking in their ability to, you know what I mean, get a message across to young hip-hop artists.
This ain't about hip-hop to me. This is about inner city shit that's going on all over the country.
No, I'm not placing the blame on only older artists. I'm saying, like, just in our culture overall.
Like, you feel me? Like, it's all... Hip-hop was based on the principle...
Really off the streets. Like, you feel me? Everybody had to be the toughest, the hardest.
And then it got to a point where we start seeing niggas really live in their raps.
But there was a lot of niggas back then, real quick, that was doing what they're doing.
A lot of them is coming home now.
That was living like that.
It just wasn't on the internet.
And they did it different.
It wasn't braggadocious.
The rappers pretended to be the guys that they watched do it.
They pretended to be that guy.
So they were around that.
They were around them niggas that was catching 10, 15 bodies.
But they were just acting like it was them.
Thank you. Senseless killings and stuff like that, Ben.
What's the next step? We agree. You coming from a standpoint to me, like, yo, nigga, yo, he gonna have his day in court.
It happened. You niggas put yourself in that position.
That's how I'm receiving your message. Yo, y'all niggas put yourself in that position.
You should have known better. Deal with it.
That's how I'm taking your message. So that's why I'm talking on the other side of it.
If you don't mean that, I apologize. You know what I mean? But that's how I'm taking it.
I see all angles of it. I see all angles.
I agree. I understand what you're saying.
You're not wrong, nigga. Like, nigga, this shit is over nothing.
This shit is stupid. Niggas got a lot of money.
Niggas made it out the hood. Why the fuck you niggas is killing each other, shooting each other, senseless killing? I'm with you on that as well.
I'm with you, Joe. You ain't even killing a nigga in your backyard.
You hopping a plane. No, but bigger than that.
You boarding a plane to go and shoot in broad daylight by the mall in LA.
By the mall.
I'm with you.
Stop, yo.
At some point,
adults got to start sounding like adults.
I don't want to hear
this Teen Summit shit
y'all talk about.
I agree with you.
The same thing
when them niggas got to
busing right by the
Renaissance Hotel in LA.
Broad daylight.
Broad daylight.
My same point about
Consonant in Union Square on a Friday on a much different note. in LA, broad daylight.
Broad daylight. My same point about Kaisenat and Union
Square on a Friday
on a much different note.
Exists here.
No, you can't just grab a gun and start shooting
in broad daylight with people that don't have nothing
to do with your beef,
your anger,
your hurt, your hood
problems, your I'm a demon. I've seen
too much, so now I'm a demon.
Nigga, then go move that shit somewhere.
I agree with that.
And if you're gonna do that,
this gonna even sound worse. Niggas been doing that
since the beginning of the town. And that's the point.
In they hoods, in they jungles,
niggas is doing that. You might not do that in these
white people neighborhoods because you're gonna get caught.
Niggas, give a fuck over here. You know what I'm saying?
But, not just that. If you got enough money to get a nigga killed, get a nigga killed the right way.
Get the ninjas. That's going to sound bad.
It don't cost nothing to get somebody killed, unfortunately. Unfortunately.
I'm not going to be associated with it in no way, shape, or form. It's not going to be no ID.
It's not going to be no rent-a-car. It's not going to be an airplane ticket.
It's not going to be nothing that can remotely
come back. That's going to come back to me.
Y'all forgetting we're talking about
niggas who are, don't come
from the greatest education system
and not that smart.
I'd take the other side in that argument.
I'd take the other side too.
If you're a legitimate street nigga, niggas in the
street was getting niggas murdered at 17
and 18 years old in a manner that they
didn't want to be tied to it. Yeah, Dirk
dad is his dad.
Like, he probably has had the
greatest education on
the effects of
what this does.
That's a good point.
I ain't, yeah, that's a good point.
You had a front row seat.
I'm just sick and tired of
us, and again, I'm not really talking about him
I'm going sick and tired of us.
And again, I'm not really talking about him because he'll have his day in court.
I don't know.
I don't know nothing about none of that.
They're going to have to try and tie that money, whatever they're trying to do.
And I certainly ain't about to say it'll help no case.
I don't know nothing about nothing.
I'm just tired of seeing young, black, successful people. Successful people get the opportunity and lose it.
Like that. Because of where we came from and the things we've endured and experienced.
At some point, somebody has to be... Break the cycle.
But wait, when you say. Yes, I agree with you.
A lot of times these things be retroactive, right? We know a person the shit would serve, free our brother. Like, the shit that he got involved in was retro.
He changed by the time that they came and looked for him. A lot of shit be, be, a lot of shit be retro.
It happened before. And over it.
And to me, sometimes you do stuff in the moment. I'm not making any excuses.
I do agree with him. But sometimes you do shit in the moment of 2016 or 15.
It's the situation that you're in. Then you see something from a different perspective.
You get around niggas like you or get around niggas that's showing niggas a different light and be like, yo, you know, I want to do better. But that stain is still there, and you have to deal with it.
Not in this instance, but you're right. And not in the surf instance either.
Free the wave surf, I love him, but surf would be the first to tell you. I said, nigga, move to Africa.
Not Africa. But when he got...
Hey, stop and go now. Go.
Because, yes, if you're in the same environment, yes, something retroactively that you did in your past is going to come back. I could not stop thinking of Chief Keefe this whole time.
As an example of, or at least the only example I could think of, of somebody that did it the right way. Did it the right way.
I don't know about his past, his street ties, none of that shit. All I know is he got a record deal, word spread fast around the industry about who he be like it normally does.
He wild out for a year, maybe the first year and a half. And then he boogied.
He moved. He moved.
we never heard a thing again. And yeah, he took advantage of the opportunity, rebranded, and is now recognized as the godfather of that sound and the fucking musical genius that he is.
True. Nobody mentions his name with none of this other shit.
Know why? Because he got an opportunity and seemingly stopped. And guess what? If he didn't stop, it wasn't in a song, it wasn't in a reel, it wasn't on YouTube.
Live streamed. Yeah, it wasn't that.
It wasn't that. I don't want to hear this shit from these men.
I don't. I don't.
Hey, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
If I went out there and did it, and I'm a little older, but if I went out there and did it, the word would be a little different from the people that love me. Nigga, what are you doing? What are you doing? I'm fucking leaving my dad house.
Leaving my dad house. I make a left.
It's me and I forgot who I was with. Oh, it's my little brother.
We make a left right there on, eh, it don't matter. But they had a memorial and news reporters all over there, big crowds.
I'm like, yo, what happened over here? My brother's like, yo, you ain't here. The lady left a four-year-old in the house for five days or a baby in the house for five days and the baby died like wait what like my brain can't compute some of the stuff that is happening out here and in hip-hop yeah another one this is another one of those things it's another one of those things and y'all are in a system that's part of a system who do y'all think y'all be talking to these microphones, in these booths, on these songs, with these fucking choruses and bars? Who do y'all think is hearing this stuff? I just don't understand it.
They just cut their iPhone on. I don't understand it.
And be recording themselves with hammers and all that. Yo, you know we don't play over.
I'm like, they do. You ain't lying.
It ain't too many people
that figured out a way
to have one foot in
and one foot out.
Very hard to do.
I'm sad.
It's damn near impossible.
It's like a whole generation
of fucking hip hop music
and culture
that is being just
wiped off the map
by dumb shit.
Yes.
It's sad.
Yeah,
and then they're going
to try to put like this type of behavior. It's like an indictment it there is an indictment on hip hop going on right now and they're gonna try to put this behavior in there when I don't know if this is that I don't know if this is that it's saddening it's disappointing I don't want to talk about none of this shit because I don't live my life in a way
that's conducive for me to understand it.
So, I shut the fuck up about it.
You know, maybe there's some points on the other side
as to why people think that this is rational behavior,
but it is not.
And unfortunately, everybody got a phone,
so we got to stare at this shit and look at this shit.
If you're out there, choose your heroes wisely.
That's what I have for you.
Choose your heroes wisely.
Be careful.
You pick the person that you want to adore and admire with discernment and care.
What's up?
You cooking?
I'm done.
I ain't got nothing on it. Prayers for all.
Yeah, word. Prayers for all.
See, but I keep talking about me in my 40s. I go to sleep thinking about just senseless death.
I do. It ain't got to be somebody shooting somebody.
I go to sleep thinking about the guy that just went to the bodega to get a sandwich, and the car just went and plummeted, and bow, and now that's wait that's not fair that's not fair that's not right on the news i see mad deaths when i be like for that guy that's not right shit josh reynolds josh reynolds right the uh denver wide receiver that just got shot in his head in his arm leaving the strip club like this shit is sad and it's fucking depressing i'm sorry that so many many of y'all feel like you need to bust your gun to feel safe. I don't think this...
I don't even know if it'd be about safety now. Well, rather be...
It'd be about my cheesing. What they always say, rather to be court-witted than court-witted.
I'm talking about for those people. For those people that Flip is talking about where something might retroactively pop up for something you did back in the day.
I get that. You said it's what? I said it'd be about machismo now.
Like, niggas brag about having it on them. Niggas brag.
You know I don't play, nigga. I let this thing go.
Like, it's a cool thing now. I feel ya.
I feel like it's deeper than any of the things we would ever know. You feel me? I read a book, one of them books, psychology shit.
It was basically on the urban community. One of the quotes is, how we flip suicidal thoughts is homicidal impulses.
And it makes a lot of sense. When I look back in Yonkers and look at all the little bros and all that, when one pass away, how everybody's all sad for the week, two weeks, everybody's crying and all of that, a lot of these young niggas is in their homes suffering from a lack of love, appreciation and all of that, and they think when they die or they go to jail that they gonna get that.
That one week, two weeks of praise is real love and they don't realize that it's not. A lot of these niggas are really suicidal and they're flipping it into homicidal impulses.
That's sad. Can't argue that.
I can see that. I can't argue that at all.
I can see it too. It's sad.
I can't argue that. You know my problem is, this is my problem.
I swear to God I hate God I'm sorry that I hate coming in here on pod days to discuss shit like this. I swear I do.
It really grinds my gears. This irks my soul to have to come in here and speak to some of this shit.
But a few things. To Jaywon's earlier point, let me be the one to tell y'all out there.
You don't have to live your raps. You don't have to do that.
I don't care what they told you in the 80s and 90s. It's art.
You know how many lies I told in raps? Mad lies. You don't have to get on there and chronicle crimes.
Chronological order? You don't have to name, like, rest in peace, Fulio.
Somebody on my algorithm, a Fulio joint song popped up.
And it was hard.
I wasn't too familiar with Fulio's music.
But this song was hard.
And the whole thing was him naming the niggas that died.
Like, the niggas that got all of the ops.
It was three minutes of death.
We'll be right back. niggas that died.
Like the niggas that got all of the opps. It was three minutes of death.
We got all of them niggas.
The internet now is pulling up old Dirk songs
that sound a certain way
and paint a certain picture.
The niggas album cover
had a scoreboard up there of us versus y'all and nigga we winning. Like, how many niggas we versus how many niggas y'all murder? And that's what's going on.
That don't mean that was true, though. It don't, we don't know.
Nobody knows. We not that close.
Thank God we not that close to the situation to know if it's true or not.
But it looks the way.
The optics.
It looks the way.
That fucking song with the choir saying, All my life, I'm alive and dying of it.
Man, yo, dog.
Who the fuck do y'all think y'all are fooling with this stuff?
All of this key to the city.
Yo, you know what my problem is? Let me talk and then you can go ahead. Like some of us come from hoods where we know killers.
We've spoken to some of them. Some of them got good hearts.
So we understand. Some of us come from places where some killers, we understand.
So we do have an empathy that is not present in modern day society. And that's how they could tell that we from where we from, because we kind of, in a sick, twisted way, get it, get some of that.
And rationalize some of that that and i'm not saying that's okay but that
exists in some of us we have to draw a line between that and just romanticizing bad killers y'all niggas whoever this applies to are not good at killing y'all are are missing your target, hitting another target, going to rap about it, killing a kid, killing a mom, killing in the daytime, killing at a mall, killing in very crowded fucking areas, killing over nothing. You niggas are killing over absolutely nothing.
And then rapping about it. Yeah, so that's my problem.
Like, I want to separate the people that have that type of empathy that I'm speaking about. Because those people that I'm talking about, I never spoke to one of them, and they was like, alright, man, I'm about to run this bodega and just let everybody in there have it.
Since Elon Musk purchased X, my For You tab is nothing but those types of senseless murders. It's dudes running in check cashing spots with AR-15s and just wiping everybody out.
Like, this shit is a mess out here. And thirdly, if there was anybody who we would totally understand you making a decision to change your life around and live differently and maybe turn your back to some of the things that was going on previously, it's Dirk.
It's Dirk What else needs to happen
They've killed people close to you
They've killed your family
They've run in your house while you and your queen were sleeping. If he were to say, hey, you know what, dog? I'm cool.
I'm going to take my $60 million. And my children.
And go to Colorado and rap from there, never to be seen again. I think everybody would say, hey, you know what? I get that.
I get that. That's never the fucking choice.
That's never the route chosen. I don't get it.
Again, he'll have his day in court, so I'm not really getting into him.
They'll have to prove that what they're saying about him is true.
But
for the niggas that they nadd,
they talking about they got somebody that was wearing
a wire for 12 years.
No, he came home from 12. He had it for
years, though.
He came home from 12, had a wire on him, and was wearing the wire for years. Got it.
Got it. Damn.
For the niggas that they nabbed, though, they got the shooters. They got the shooters already.
Hey, there was 20 million cameras over there on Sunset at 3 o'clock that day. You boarded the plane with your name.
We got the text. We got you receiving the money.
That's where the problem is. It's not that it was just a murder for hire.
We have the money being paid. Unlike Dolph, where they was talking about it was a murder for hire, we never got paid.
So that made it fuzzy. These people got received money, whoever these people are.
So now they got to track it. The crazy shit be, you got the money on Zelle or Venmo or Cash App or some wild shit, like, if that is the case, yeah.
These are senseless crimes that don't appear to have much thought going into it other than violent emotional reaction and response. and it's a shame to keep seeing it happen to the people that found a way, to the people that hit the lotto.
These opportunities we're talking about don't just pop up for people. It is like hitting the lotto.
I wish that we would cherish it more. I wish that we would value ourselves and each other just more than to keep doing that.
That's all. That's all I'm doing.
I think that, you know, I'm in the middle, Joe. I'm realizing that podcasting, the job that we have to do is filled with hypocrisy.
And I say that to say because when we talked about liking that same Dirk song, you pushed the fact that you didn't want to hear that, you wanted to hear the regular Dirk shit that he normally does. And on top of that, everybody's not as fortunate and as smart as you to take an opportunity.
I'm pretty sure that when I hear a story about how you sat in your truck and somebody tried to take you, do whatever, and the gun jammed, I'm pretty sure if you didn't have the maturity and the success you had or just being the person you are, if that nigga was outside playing around and you had the opportunity, based off, in my opinion, the environment you come from, something could have happened to him if he didn't go to jail because he tried to take your life. The guy that broke my jaw
in the park, I looked for him for, that shit bothered me
every day. I looked for him for over 10
years, sitting in the park, laying there on the bench,
on YouTube, can't find his name because I got snuck
and my jaw broke and it was around the neighborhood
until I interviewed Soul B
and he was able to, I had to sit down
across from this guy
and it's a simple, broke my jaw,
snuck me from behind. So I'm saying that we experience some of these traumas and we are not as fortunate as you.
And it is an excuse, but we're not as fortunate to think how you think. But you are.
That's the problem. I am now.
Before I got here, around you and see, I thought different. No, you were still blessed.
No, but I thought different. You were one of the lucky ones the way I was one of the lucky ones.
You're absolutely right. Somebody put a gun inside of my Hummer on Gifford and Bergen and pulled the trigger, point-blank range, and it didn't go off.
That's luck. Part of being good is being lucky, but that's luck.
That didn't make me say, that's kind of my point is we have to value ourselves in a way where I'm not now trading in my life to cancel yours. I don't think that's a fair exchange.
I think God blessed me in that moment. So let me be wise enough to go and meet my potential and all of the things that I'm capable of versus getting with the 40 niggas that I was with at the time and figuring out how to go handle that in a different way.
Even if you were going to handle it, it's still, maybe it's me, I'm still not going to handle it while it's just gung-ho. How many experiences you have to go through for you to say to yourself, yo, let me make a change.
This is what we're all forgetting. Like some people need a certain amount.
And unfortunately, it may end up death or jail. But when you're in the streets, regardless if you got money or don't, that's what come with it.
That's the only options. You used the word, yeah.
I wasn't in the streets. That's not true either.
Even when you're in the streets, you just not going to say, yo, fuck it, and I'm going to just crash out. The smart niggas that's making money in the streets and that's doing things in the streets, yeah, some of them niggas is getting niggas killed.
But they not just getting niggas killed on some, yo, go kill that nigga on Main Street at 2 o'clock in the daytime. Everybody in the street's not making money.
Some niggas are just in the way in the streets.
I didn't say that either.
It's some niggas in the street game that's just not dumb.
We trying to make it seem like, yo, the niggas that live that life,
that's just how they are, and that's not true.
There's a generational gap.
Y'all were raised different.
Chicago is different from New Jersey, from New York, from Yonkers, from Queens.
Like, it is a different world up there. None of the murders I'm talking about happened in Chicago.
No, they didn't. But the niggas that are committing them, allegedly.
I'm talking about that bullshit that happened in Atlanta where we all could have left the hookah spot peacefully. I agree with this.
I've been in a parking lot. Yo, if you've been outside, you've been in a parking lot before with some niggas that am in.
You know they was on bullshit. Yeah.
And you move accordingly in the parking lot. I'm talking about Atlanta and Florida.
I don't care about where y'all come from. I understand that Chicago's a different place, which is why you never hear me talk about Chicago.
I'm not there to know or speak to it. Once you get your rap money and invest that in vests, bullets, ammo, guns, the joints with the switch and bounties.
Dog, we're getting you for the bounty. You cannot just run around and put money on top of somebody's head because you got money.
Sorry. That's not how this works.
Is there ever a time where a nigga be like, yo, you know better? Does that ever stand? That's what I'm saying. When you in jail.
That's when niggas have that conversation. When you in jail.
Yo, bro, you know better. Niggas don't have that conversation on the streets.
I'm talking about within yourself. When they are in jail.
Did you have it after you got shot? Yeah, I had it before and after. You see, you had it multiple times.
But when I got shot, it wasn't based on something that I was doing necessarily dumb. What I'm saying is this.
When I was a kid, I knew better. When I'm an adult, I knew better.
I agree with this. I'm not blaming it on nobody.
Anything that goes on in my life today, whether it's in business, whether it's in personal, bro, I hold myself accountable for every decision I ever made in my life, bro. We are a combination of our decisions.
That's a fact. Right? So cool, I'm not going to blame this.
I'm not going to blame that. When I was running around, I was still smarter than most of the niggas running around because I thought different than them.
They was doing dumb shit. I didn't want to do it.
I didn't do it. And thank God coming up, the niggas that was doing dumb shit protected niggas like me.
Not all the time, but even when they... I still would say, oh, that nigga on dummy time.
I'm going over there. We see dirt hold the self-declosure.
I'm just saying, they let old boy go to the park and work on his jump shot. You got a chance, young boy.
You come from a good family, man. Go get your shit off
while we out here.
I'm with Ish. At some point, people that
know better, that ain't true. We just
ain't coming around, you niggas that's shooting
20 niggas a month.
Fuck y'all. Fuck y'all.
It ain't that many niggas saying that
right now. On my block right now, and Carl can tell y'all this, there's a bunch of young niggas that have no reason to be out there.
They're not even from over there. And every time I come outside, I keep asking, yo, why are they here? Like, what is their purpose? And what's the response? And nobody has a response.
I've been asking for the last month and a half, yo, why are they here? Like, what the fuck are they doing? Like, what is their purpose? And you know what a commissary is? They just outside. They want to be outside.
And that is it. It's never the person.
It's always the entourage. A lot of the times that be the problem behind a lot of shit.
It takes a village to raise a child. Even me trying to be outside.
Remember, my mother coming into clubs looking for me, right, at a young age. Or nigga Webb and Nitty having a conversation aggressively.
But, you know, nigga, you're not doing that, little TJ. Go in the house.
You got a good mother. You got a house.
Go to school. Giving me money.
You don't need to do that. Here, take the money.
Go buy yourself some sneakers. And this is what...
But sometimes you just watch it and you want... That's why I take accountability.
Because I had niggas tell me that and thank God I did. Thank God it was a group of niggas that...
And I asked him this question as an adult. Like, yo, what did y'all see? I asked Nitty when I sat down with him.
Yo, what y'all niggas saw that y'all didn't even give me a pack or say go do a dummy mission because in my mind I was more than capable of doing it
because I was doing it on my own.
He explained to me that a lot of times
when we grow up there's always those
special ones that
we go the extra mile and we cherish.
Nah, you go to school. I miss
my opportunity. I miss this.
It is niggas out there that will do so.
I had that experience. I had that experience.
Y'all just today. Y'all kids today.
Oh, man. I do like my 40s.
First of all, aging is a gift. It is.
I want to remind the audience of that. Getting older is the blessing.
One. And two, the stunt today is different than whatever y'all are putting on Instagram.
The stunt today is Nitty hitting me to say happy Father's Day. Love you OG.
Remember back in the day we made it, ah, you kids, my kids, ah. Just talking to father, dad, family, yo, what you doing now that we don't have to do none of that no more? That's the stunt.
It is.
Y'all are confusing the stunt out there.
Y'all are.
I pray that y'all get guidance from somewhere, whoever this applies to.
Whoever this applies to.
Again, Dirk will have his day in court,
and because I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, I hope that they can't prove none of that stuff that they attempting to prove on him. That's the hope.
I feel it. I agree.
All right. All right.
I mean, in more hip-hop court news, mm-mm. You know what I mean? Mm! No.
It's a weekend, man. I was in a good mood and a good vibe.
Y'all coming here with this hootenanny. Come on, man.
Let me call on the power of Luther real quick. Yo, man.
This life thing, this life thing is good. It's precious.
This life thing is good. It's beautiful.
It's fragile. It's delicate.
It's to be treated and handled with care. Care.
Damn. This is a long intro.
Yeah. This might be my favorite Luther song too.
He knew the beat was fly. Yo, just let it run.
Let it run. I ain't ready yet.
Luther was getting some coffee or something. Fucking some nigga in the back.
No. How did you say that? What? You think Luther never fucked no dude in the studio? Not right before doing this.
George Michael, you think? Some of these slaps come from gay sex in the back. Or a nigga slapping him and pulling out a gun on him and telling him to go record him.
Remember that producer that they said that was doing that? Niggas was forcing a nigga to record. Under distress, nigga.
So yeah. Somebody drove a gun on Luther? No, no, no.
Let's talk about Phil Spector. No, no.
Oh, oh, oh. That I do know.
Yes, okay. And he's in jail.
He's in jail? Yes, he's in jail. Wham was based off wham? Yeah, come on.
What wham meant? What did wham really mean? That meant they was butt-ass. Wake me up before you go, nigga.
That mean they was butt-ass recording that. What? Luther Anno draws on doing this.
Oh, man. Listen to it.
I just don't want to stop. Wait a minute now.
Yeah, it's good vibes and good energy in here. A million days in your arms is now for tomorrow.
I mean, I'm going to move the game, man. It wasn't confirmed.
I don't know what the fuck. Yes, it was.
About who, nigga? How's that? Luther was gay. Let's confirm that.
Never too much, never too much, never too much. That's all right.
We still fuck with Luther. Yeah, but he didn't confirm he was gay.
Like, he died. A lot of niggas don't confirm they're gay.
Luther was gay, nigga. Why you want to dance with your father? I told you.
No, that's not gay. That's not gay.
Why you want to dance with your dad? If JR come in our house, your dad, let's dance. You going to look at him crazy.
Listen, that's not gay. No, I'm not.
No, I'm not. And that's one of my favorite songs.
That's not gay. Call him right now and ask him if he can dance with you.
I'm not calling him right now. I never dance.
Yo, you got trauma, son. You got trauma, and that's what I'm saying.
I'm not dancing with my pops. And the podcast let you, you know, let it out.
But you got trauma, and I feel for you, my nigga. It's all good.
I feel for you. His generation got trauma.
It ain't just him. It's them.
But I like that about you because you're expressive. You're expressive.
But I'm letting you know, if you trying to hide it, nigga, you need to be better than hiding and go seek. We got him, y'all.
I don't want to hide it. I don't care to hide it.
But how does pop feel when you express that? How do you think pop's feel? If he watches it and say, yo, whatever my son feel about me, it comes out on camera. It comes out on the mic.
How do you think he may feel about that? I've said it personally to him. OK, I didn't know that.
That's the relationship. Like, these are my grievances or issues.
Got it. OK.
You feel me? I got you. I got you.
And we're going to stop allowing him to come up here and get Jadakiss trauma. Word.
That is true. You can't just take the gig and say something bad about the legend.
Your dad is a legend and you are not. You got to be a legend.
I'm a legend. You got to be a legend before you start talking about legends around here.
I'm a legend. That's the problem.
These kids with voices. I watch a video of you at homecoming blowing the whistle, dancing.
I'm like, nigga, what the fuck? Oh, shit. Big alpha.
Shout out to the law-abiding citizens out there, god damn it. Indeed.
Thank you. That's you? Indeed.
These days. I ain't said when I got my car to go up the street the other day, I felt like I had warrants.
I got paranoid. That car hot.
I don't mean hot as a nice. I felt like, oh shit, let me make sure I'm good.
I like it hot, the ones that don't tell me to stop. I haven't had to think that way in mad long.
That shit look like a police magazine. That shit is a boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
They gonna get up, see that pink hoodie on. You drive slow.
That's Luther, son. Oh, whoa.
Yo, no. Yo, that shit.
I think I smoked a karaoke look with my... And if he got the cigarette between these two fingers, he gonna look sassy and shit.
I think I smoked these pants. They're not your style, but...
You wouldn't do these, but... The Balenciaga PJ.
Come on, man. How about this? At least say they look like Joe pants.
Those are Joe pants. I think the Joe pants.
I think the Valenciaga names made them for you.
You ain't got it.
That's what I said
when I said them.
I was like,
oh shit,
they're wilder now.
I don't know.
I like them shoes.
Not me.
They for me.
They for me.
Style should be unique
to everyone's self.
Hey,
what's that shit you got
with your back hold?
With my what?
Scoliosis.
Scoliosis.
Having that car
in scoliosis is fly.
The way you get in the car, I know you get in that shit fly, nigga. Having scoliosis, you fly right into that shit.
You know, a nigga with straight back can't go. Them shits ain't comfortable.
Yeah. You get into that shit fly.
I know niggas is like, look at this nigga. I don't want to rob you.
It's comfortable when you're in there, but you're getting in there. You have to learn how to get in there.
I mean, you're 5'9". That's different.
I hear you. You just got whatever you 5'11", whatever you are.
I'm 5'11", yo.
Hold up a minute.
Let me crack on him.
You like the fucking bitches that went and get lipo.
And now they appear to be a bad bitch, but their brain and shit is still on.
It's still toxic.
Yeah, he still got short nigga brain and personality and heart and soul.
He developed into this.
All you got to do is accuse him of something, nigga. That Napoleon shit come right out.
Yeah. Oh, shit.
I took over the land. Napoleon.
I took over the land. Yo, yo.
No, I'm not wrong. You wrong.
Who the fuck you think you're telling me you're wrong? Put the motor least in my room. Nigga at the game was like, yo, you tall as hell, my G.
You feel good? No, nigga. I know I'm tall.
I ain't tall as hell anyway. But he's like, yo, you don't look like that on the couch.
I said, yeah, the couch is 18 inches high. He started dissing the couch.
When he cut the hair, he didn't diss anything around him. You know he wasn't always taller.
He a size 8. I'm not a size.
I'm a size 10. Size 9.
They don't even make that sneaker for niggas that wear 11 and up. Those are girls niggas? They don't even make that sneaker.
Yeah, those are girls niggas. You listening to them.
You listening to them. Stupid ass.
Yo, my feet growing too, yo. At this age? Congrats.
Dead ass. Yo, nah.
I'm dead ass. Benjamin Button ass.
Yeah, you good, bro? Yo, AI. Yo, my shit.
AI. Yo, AI.
You good,, man? I hate to break it to you. I'm dead ass.
I swear. I ain't lying.
Yo, pause. Nothing on you is growing.
There's nothing on you that's growing. No, listen to me.
That's just gout. That's the old nigga swole.
Nigga said that's gout. That's a swollen foot, nigga.
Yeah, you got water in your knees. I was like, yo, should I tell the pod? When you sleep with your feet up like this, nigga Elevate your toes, nigga That's what it is This nigga's stupid It's just swollen It's not growing It's no What do you mean they're growing? They're not getting swollen No, they're not swollen My feet growing My sneakers don't fit me no.
All right, yo, that's mine.
They're sweaty and hot.
I know I shouldn't have brought it to the pod.
I'm around a whole bunch of children.
And this is the problem with having children at an old age.
You start seeing them grow.
You think you growing.
You trying to live.
My daughter is growing.
Wait, I'm growing.
Nigga, this is not Peter Pan later, nigga.
You're with 3T.
I'm in this.
No, for real, my shit growing.
Yeah, that.
It's okay, it's okay.
Well, congrats. Yeah, it's gross.
There you go. Niggasiggas hating like what does he want us to do with that new information right like his foot is growing hey you know one day though follow this nigga one day though son I want you sad to see he be doing I want you to reverse it on that nigga one day when he going in a little fly shit with his sliding in just take your car and follow behind him and see what he does nigga come back and tell us spy on this nigga on this nigga, son.
Most of what he does. He got it now.
He do some fly shit sometimes differently, son. Spy on this nigga.
He don't do everything the same. That nigga's like, ain't nothing to spy on me.
I ain't doing nothing. I live a boring life, yo.
No, you don't. I live a really...
I saw those stories, nigga. You was having fun at that karaoke, huh? I was home in bed by the time I posted that story.
You don't got to tell me that.
My name ain't shot A, nigga.
You don't got to tell me that.
You see me post a story.
I was long gone.
Yeah, I was long gone out of there.
Let me see.
You just did a good, just look fly.
Look nice.
The view you had.
It was nice and it was a good vibe.
It was a good vibe.
I thought Mel was going to be in there. I was asked to go, but I couldn't.
Ooh. Shout out gig.
Damn. I wanted to go, but I couldn't.
Got you. Who asked you to go? Who asked you to go? Doreen.
Okay, Doreen. Hey, Doreen.
Mm-hmm. So I'm going to go to the next time.
Next one. You going to go with me? Come on.
We can sing Fire and Desire. That trick has gotten many a man at this pod, but not I.
Hey. Not I, squire.
That one little trick right there made many fail. That's funny.
Not I. No, it's all right.
I'll see you there. All right.
Fine. Fine, fine, fine.
Oh, you want to sing? She want the ride, nigga. She want the ride.
That's what she do. She do the shit for the ride.
She don't care about going with you for real. She going to leave you aside.
We have fun when we go out. But you going to leave you aside because you mixy.
You ill. You just want the ride.
You know what I'm saying? Pull up. Pull up the block.
No, I can get you. That was funny.
She don't really leave my side when we go out. I don't.
Oh, she don't? She don't leave my side when we go out. Because he's somebody...
Hey, hey, hey. He's somebody.
A nigga like flipping E. Yo, y'all good? You don't ask if we good.
You walk to the toilet, you do laps and right. Hour and a half.
You meet up in the same spot. Hour and a half.
I'll meet you right here, okay? Same spot. Right here.
Ready, break. That's fine.
Y'all think you fucking know me. Anyways.
And then the one time she did leave my side at that Angie barbecue, I tore her fucking head off for how she did it. Okay, you told that story.
I went to the bathroom. I know.
It's a shame you don't know how to go to bathrooms. No, that's true.
There's a way to go to the bathroom. That's learned behavior.
It's like hood shit. But that comes from hood shit.
For women. Yes, it comes from hood instincts.
Melissa Ford and women in general. I seriously can't even remember.
I feel like I had security take me. No.
You had some strange... Random niggas.
You had a random stranger nigga that she didn't know. No, take me.
Oh, it's this way. Oh, take me.
Take me there. Take me to the king.
I want to go there. Take me there.
I want to go there. Take me there.
Nigga, stupid. But you fucked up for watching and not stopping it, nigga.
You watched the shit happening. And something went down that bad for you.
It was complicit, nigga. You watched it.
You watched her go. You would say, yo, come here, man.
You take mine and you bend it to another place. I gave her a look.
She was fucked up. But she didn't recognize the look, so she went off.
But when she came back and homeboy went wherever he went. I gave her the thrashing.
She got it. Yeah, he did.
She got it. I hate that I have to do that to Mel.
It's okay. I learned my lesson that day.
She understands. That won't happen again around me.
It's just Mr. Plus One.
You know that, right? And you got to stop that Plus one shit. You get that shit off.
Like, as a man, to be known as Mr. Plus One, you're really comfortable with your sexuality, your masculinity.
You're just comfortable. You are plus one.
You walked up the stairs as a plus one. You went to the game as a plus one.
I'm not mad at him going to the game as a plus one. The plus one there is okay.
Give me some plus one times. Y'all just say anything up here on these mics.
Okay, cool. I can give it to you.
The dinner you went to a while on them niggas, you was a plus one. I never went to dinner a while on my life.
Duh. Simba.
Why was I the plus one? So Simba was a plus one or you invited him to dinner? I'm asking you because you said it. The point
I'm trying to say is that you are Mr. Plus One
and you don't have to. Well you told us about one time
he was a plus one and it's sensitive
so I ain't joking on it but you told us one time
when you said he was
Mandy's plus one. You said that up here.
No Mandy said that. I never said that nigga.
He don't like that shit. Mandy said that
and you brought it to the pod.
Mandy said yo it was my plus one and you came in the pod. And you gonna snuff me over.
I'm not at all. I got a smile on my face.
I'm not even removing. You can snuff somebody smiling.
No, I can't. It ain't gonna hit hard.
It ain't even gonna hit them hard. Go ahead.
Y'all just be making up shit. But I think it's fly you get it off.
And it says that the niggas don't want me to be there plus ones. I'm not ish.
It's more from
a jealous point of view.
Yeah, that's funny. It's hilarious.
Yo, listen. Company mandate.
Consider this a company-wide email.
We're not letting Mel
and Ish walk to the board together
anymore. Nor are we letting Mel
and Mark Lamont Hill walk
to the board together anymore.
I am open. Off mic, she just
spazzed on us. She did.
She said, motherfuckers, I to the board together anymore. I am open.
Off mic, she just spazzed
on us. She did.
She said, motherfuckers, I'm the only one that
writes on the board. That is motherfucking right.
The times that I have come in here
and sat my ass down, guess what happened?
The board stayed blank.
Now that pod turned out.
Fucked up. Fire, right?
Absolute heat. This not her only time
doing it. She ratted on niggas before.
I did not rat. And we walked in, the nigga called the meeting on the balcony.
You did rat. I don't think that was ratting.
Wait, wait. How was that ratting? Oh shit, we waking it up.
Not only did she rat, and I called the meeting on the balcony about people's participation with the board. What the fuck? Then at the end of the meeting, I tried to be a civil responsible dude.
I was like, all right, does anyone here have anything that they would like to address the staff with?
I remember that.
And nobody said nothing.
And I looked at Mel and I was like, Mel?
She's like, no.
That was so foul. I'm good, y'all.
I said this fucking bitch. She act like...
Yo, Mel, yo. Well, hold the fuck up.
I have addressed them before when I was standing at the board. And everybody was just talking amongst themselves.
No, she did that. She did do that before.
Hold my hand. Yes.
If you wasn't fine, wasn't fine, do you know how your life would be? If you didn't look the way you look and you pulled some of the shit that you be trying to pull. Mel, you sat there.
I remember. My sister in Christ.
Yo, Park. No, for real.
Mel sat there like she didn't bring it to the niggas' attention. Like, he just called a random me and he looked like the best.
Yo, she sat there. It was her reading.
She was like. Yo, he was hot.
She was hot. Hold on, Mel.
Wait, wait. Let me just finish this.
She was sympathizing with us because Ice, me-ish. I'm like, where this came from, nigga? How I got him? He was looking at me.
Ice was offended. And she just said that.
Mel said that and let me argue with people. You know, Ice can't argue.
Ice didn't like that shit. Do y'all remember the time I was standing at the board and the three of you were just like chatting it up, chatting it up.
I was like, I am not standing here for the good of my motherfucking health. You said that.
Can you guys help me with this fucking board? I'm going to this fucking board? We thought you was having another one of your hissy fits. That's it.
We just ignored you. I hate that it gets packaged like that.
That it's a hissy fit. You did this.
We talking about some man's... No.
Am I standing here and you guys not seeing me? Niggas just talking and I'm doing a shit again it again. It's not even because of that.
You ran off mid-party crap before.
A couple times.
She's ran off mid-party.
Yo, why are you walking like that?
I see more.
She just shut up on the bar, Joe.
Come back.
Tell her about your show.
Oh, shit.
I'm supposed to be doing an ad.
That has not happened in a long time.
No, you didn't.
That is our time to sexualize you at the workplace, too.
You a different man.
No problem.
When you go to the bathroom.
Your fast walks me.
It don't look the same. You fucked up.
Mark Lamont walk up. You're like, nigga, move, man.
See what you're doing. Look at Mark now.
Day one, invested in the board. With your baggy jeans.
That's hate. That's hate.
That's hate. A little bit, right? That's hate.
That's nasty. That's a little bit of hate.
Actually, what I did was I brought him over to the board. I said, now this is what happens when we come in today.
I was here, no? Okay, so this is what we
do when we come inside.
We come to the board with our topics.
And now today, you just want to walk to the board, would you?
No, he came to the board last
season. Bro, I come to the board.
You won't even be here. I'm ignoring you.
Of course he walked to the board, but Mark
was here. He started to contribute, yes.
I love it. He came in with subjects.
My pleasure. Bart workers.
Me? It's cool. Mark took him to the game
Thank you. Of course he walked to the ball, but Mark was here.
He started to contribute. Yes, I love it.
He wanted to check the... Came in with subjects.
I wish.
Bart workers and stuff.
Me?
It's cool.
Mark took him to the game, made him feel better about the workplace.
Mark took him to the game.
Mark took him to the game.
Mark told me your co-worker standing with me, nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
Sunday, man.
Yo, what you doing tonight?
You free, nigga?
Yo, you free tonight, nigga?
Yo, what's wrong with Ben?
Let me take you courtside.
Let me take you courtside to the game. Let's go on a date.
You ever been courtside? You look good, though. Wait, no, no, hold up.
No call, man. We crack on the nigga.
They gonna catch us on TV. Sit right here.
And that nigga drove over there with gas prices at a, look at me about to pretend like I know we a gas price. I don't know.
But they gotta be hot. That nigga took the I-9-5.
Listen, man,
me coming to the job
is nothing against you.
You know what I mean?
I'm just here.
I'm just here to do a gig.
I don't want you to feel
intimidated by my presence.
Yeah, I don't want you
to feel no type of way
about me.
Nigga, I knew her before you.
Yo, we had great.
I knew Mel before you.
How did I get into this?
When I was a professor at LIU.
That be my question. How did I get involved in this shit? That be my question.
I'm not even involved in this. How'd she get to the pool? Yo, how did she get here? She's got a man.
This don't have nothing to do with her. How the fuck is she? All right, yo, it is time for my.
Not a key fob, not a nothing. Not a nothing.
She ain't got the code to the door, but she get in some shit. I'll be like, how did Mel get in this? Just like Ish, I can be a plus one.
You know, you queen plus one. No, you a queen plus one.
People like me. But you call for the plus one.
Not even. They call Ish for the plus one.
You call and invite Jessup. No.
Are you going to? Don't let him spin the narrative. I'm sorry.
Don't let him do it. I'm sorry, man.
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I'm riding high the end again.
That game is me off, carry on. Why? Because of all the non-calls against the Vikings? That non-call? I was hyped.
I'm like, oh, they got one last chance. A minute, 50 seconds left.
I started. Dragged him down by the whole face mask.
I'm like, oh, you killed my vibe right now. They killed me too.
I started Sam Darnall in fantasy because of that Jaden Daniels injury last week. I wasn't sure.
So I started Sam Darnall, and I really would have liked him to cook up some magic on that last time. Yeah, at least give him a shot.
And the rest was standing right there during that face mask. Right there.
And face mask is one of the easiest shits to see. The whole helmet turned.
Yeah, his whole body turned around. Yo.
And dude was running away like, oh, I can't believe I got him by the face mask. All right, now's not the time to discuss it, but I have a good idea as to why some of these calls are being missed.
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That's a fly line. Run your game.
Smooth. Yeah, I like that.
It's in the game. It's not like EA Sports.
It's growing on me, but. Yeah, run your game.
It's what? It's growing on me, Paul. Like your shoes? My feet, nigga.
Now my shoes ain't growing. Real quick, this feel like.
I think it's 49 years old. Set my foot as well.
This feel like a 12 a.m. drop.
I'm feeling it.
The energy is good. Chasing it.
Chasing the midnight drop.
He like that midnight drop. It doesn't feel good when you're outside moving around.
Oh, shit.
It's just a weekend vibe, but
you know how I feel about that. Don't chase it, though.
Don't chase it. It might happen.
Don't fuck it up, though.
Don't be Mr. Chaos.
No, no. I'm in a good mood.'t be Mr.
Chaos today. No, no.
I'm in a good mood. Yeah, let it flow.
I'm in a great mood. I ain't got...
What's up, man? It feel like a 12 a.m. drop to you too, sis? Do you like the midnight drops? I love the midnight drops.
Do you know when it drops? Yeah. Because people hit me that it dropped.
Yes. Just like all y'all, I get calls and texts when the shit drops early.
Well, he proves his shit. This nigga got a hold.
He proves it. We don't know about...
Y'all niggas is ill. That's it.
That's stupid. Legends.
All right, we have brand new music from Summer Walker. Okay.
I didn't hear this yet. Heart of a Woman.
Let's hear it. Let's hear it.
Here it goes. Saving you My woman Is the heart of a woman.
I'd like to hear it. Here it go.
The thing that's saving you
is the heart of a woman.
I love Summer Walker.
I do.
Shit.
Sound like Sonny Braxton-esque.
Oh, Brandy.
The thing that's saving you
is the heart of a woman.
Yeah. Is the heart of a woman Yeah Question is why I do the things I do
Answer I may never find but I'll always choose you
Wanna give up on you but damn I know I can't
I put the blame on me for giving you chances to chance I
And I try to be strong
I'm not alone The only thing that's saving you Is the heart of a woman Yeah The only thing that's saving you Is the heart of the review. All right.
What's the verdict?
I like it.
That's fire.
Sounds good.
Oh, the feel.
I absolutely love Summer Walker.
I stand.
What music?
I love Summer Walker music.
I stand for Summer Walker music.
Same.
I think that she's got two classics under her belt. That's me.
I'm not telling y'all to agree. And I think that the third installment and final installment, I think this is finally over it.
Over it. Still over it.
Finally over it. I think this is going to be more of the same.
She's about to absolutely smoke this and fire at that Larry nigga this whole album.
Larry.
Hey, Larry.
You made that nigga famous.
Don't cop this.
No, she made him famous.
Hey, Larry, skip this drop, my brother.
She is about to kick your back in
and fuck somebody better.
Larry might be back in the building.
Larry's not in the building.
Stop it.
This is that same shit
You try to pull
Offset and Cardi
I'm done with you
Where's Offset?
I don't know
It's okay
You know something?
Nope
You got some tea?
Nope
I drink coffee
I look forward to hearing
The Summer Walker Project
I was about to hit somebody
To find out when it dropped
That's how thirsty I am
But
Just good to
Feel like a fan again
Yeah
Give me some music
It's been a few years
Since the last album
Thank you. I was about to hit somebody to find out when it dropped.
That's how thirsty I am. But just good to feel like a fan again.
Yeah, give me some music. It's been a few years since the last album.
This Sounds Fire, very first single-ish or first drop-ish from this. But I can't wait to hear her getting her Fuck Larry back.
That's it. That's what I got for Summer Walker.
Sounded good. Sounded good.
I didn't floss.
I didn't do none of that crazy shit.
Did you pull out a lint brush
while I'm on air?
Yo, my boy, Joe, I didn't mean...
Okay.
No, don't do that. Don't start the okay shit.
I know what that means. Insubordinate?
Okay, yeah, don't do that. Don't put that under my...
Don't put that under my don't put that in my file right next to the floss how did this happen anyways where did all the fluff outside okay you know I think that I speak for everybody we're glad that you have you know such impeccable hygiene habits but like why on camera you've been checking me about that shit way before I can't believe you ratted on me last time because you pulled me to the side. They were about to see it and I didn't want to risk some shit flying out of your teeth and landing on me.
I understand, ma'am. I'm sorry.
You're trying to help get rid of me. I see you're mad because all my days off, you're just trying to call shit out.
Yo, you got a limb brush? Yo, you flossing your teeth?
Yo,
whatever y'all doing, leave that
at the pet farm.
Whatever y'all doing,
take that shit to
SeaWorld or wherever the fuck y'all was at.
Animal Kingdom.
What the fuck?
Here, we talking about
Summer Walker, not
your lack of hygiene.
We're going to be right back. What the fuck? Yeah.
Here we talking about Summer Walker, not your lack of hygiene. Which one y'all think? Let me weigh this out.
Do y'all have any thoughts on the new Summer Walker project and not Flip's hygiene? Summer Walker, the song that I heard was nice. It reminds me, it's an old school feel, 90s feel, like Ish said, whoever said it.
Jay Wong said it sounded like brandy. That shit was fire.
It gave us a little bit of a brandy feel. I'm jacking that.
I'm jacking that too. Heart of a woman.
These young niggas, it's different. It's a heart of a woman, bro.
What was wrong with that? Nothing.'s good lingo Alright I got you I'm with you Summer is summer Shout out to summer Shout out to summer Let's just be careful with our Brandy references No He loved Brandy You think that's bad? I think that was a compliment She knocked somebody over for me It's a compliment It is a compliment To one of those people It gave me that It's a compliment. It is a compliment.
Mm-hmm. I think to one of those people.
It gave
me that. It's a compliment to one of those
people.
To one of those people.
Like. I think he's just
saying slow down baby a little bit.
To one of them who might be the heir
to the Whitney voice throne.
Talking about
their relationship. I'm not talking about our fodder.
Their relationship. So, yeah, let's cool it now just a little bit.
Let's let Summer be Summer. Miss Norwood, y'all should have a little more respect.
I wasn't talking about the vocals. I was talking about the production.
The sound. Say it, though.
Say it, though. Miss Norwood is not to be played with.
So the nuances are needed. Yo, you know what? We have had a lot of new hires.
We had to let Mark know about how we feel about Jay-Z up here. We need to make a list.
I'm going to make a list of the people that y'all need to just treat with a little, have a little more reverence for when we talk about Miss Norwood is on that list for me. Let's just be careful is all.
That's all I'm saying. I think in another life, you might have married her, yo.
Well, yeah. If I could act right.
Like if I could. Yeah, because I don't think she tolerating that.
Imagine him and Ray J as brother-in-laws. Holy shit.
Thanksgiving would be insane.
Oh, y'all would be out of here.
That is a content.
Go on, man.
You niggas would be out of here.
What?
Mona Scott would have been rich.
You know what's funny, though?
Like, I do have a theory, and I'm with what y'all are saying.
I also think the Brandys and some of them, the Whitney's,
some of them that are buttoned up.
Be with the shit.
All the way with the shit.
I can concur.
All the way with the shit.
I see it.
You'll just never know it.
I just carry myself classy.
Yeah, they just got class.
But you think that Brandy or the likes of Brandy
don't like a dick with some toxicity?
I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all.
Now that I'm in her pussy business. I love Brandy.
I love Brandy too much to even put her through the Joe Budden experience. Like, I don't think that's right.
That's funny, son. I don't think that's right.
I'm with you. Sometimes you got to save people from yourself.
Like, sometimes you can look at somebody and know the damage that. Yeah, this is a piranha over here.
Get out my water, please. Go ahead, girl, and sing them songs.
Yeah, don't overdo it. Get out my water.
Yeah. Because, and the reason you don't date them chicks that's all buttoned up like that, anything they say publicly, they write.
They could be dead-ass wrong in the house. Like that whole Kiki Palmer and her man shit.
I'm on my business, but I got some thoughts. If Brandy say Joe Budden did some shit in the house, nigga, I did some shit in the house.
It ain't no fighting that. I love you, Brand Randy.
Anyway. Anyway.
Anything else in music? Not a ton. Anybody from your Backpacker Boys came out? Shane Noir dropped a great project, self-produced, Lotus Child.
Megan Thee Stallion dropped a deluxe, which is a whole 13 new songs, so it's a new album. I don't understand that.
I'm never listening to Megan Thee Stallion. It sounded pretty good.
I only listened to, like, two or three songs. It sounded pretty good.
I just don't understand why you wouldn't put that out as a new album. If it's that many songs, yeah.
Yeah. And I'm saying that, but her last album did have some songs that I fuck with.
I played some of them snake sounding songs. I just think she needed to change up the tempo of some of the songs.
Yeah, the tempo and the rhyme style is a little consistent, but I don't have a problem with that. Well, me neither.
I'm not going to listen to her consistently enough for that to be a problem. I get you.
I get you. But shout out to her.
Yeah, shout out to her. Who else? Y'all don't give a fuck about music when it drop, right? Like, Friday come, y'all don't even check the iTunes store and nothing.
Look at these niggas. It was a pretty quiet week, in quiet week in their defense.
We looked at Parks. Ice ain't here.
He usually haven't. I'll speak for Ice.
Yes. The East Side has dropped.
I'm excited about that. Snoop presents the EP.
Still East Side, or still Eastie. West Coast.
And speaking of Ice, I think Gucci dropped a record. Oh, he did? Okay.
With somebody. Him and Se.
There you go. Him and sexy red.
I'm sure that's fire. I'll wait for Ice to play it for me before I hear it.
I'm going to listen to everything tonight. Not I.
Tonight, you crazy as hell. So you ain't going to stop moving and shaking? No, no, no, no.
You on punishment? No, nigga. Chilling.
You on punishment? He don't need to go outside no more now that he got the love from his father this week. That's what it was.
I was outside trying to get you right now. He ain't outside trying to fill that empty void.
Timmy, where have you been? Father. I love this game.
All right, musicians. Have at it.
Have at it. I have absolutely nothing else in music.
Yeah, it's a pretty quiet week.
All right.
It's a pretty quiet week.
What else we got?
Do you guys want to talk about Menendez brothers possibly getting parole?
Tell us.
Tell us.
Okay.
Well, the district attorney in California has basically said that he is going to recommend
to the judge who is going to... Resentience him.
Yeah. Well, he's recommending resentencing him.
You're on top of this Menendez shit. You're like Dem Kardashian.
No, I mean, I think... You ain't missed a beat with this shit.
Well, I mean, like, it's hard not to because it's all over our televisions. I mean, first we had the Ryan Murphy, you know, series, and then we have their voices talking about their perspective of everything.
They've been in jail for like over 30 years. 34 years.
And they did a 2020 on these dudes recently. I watched that as well.
Yeah, there's HBO on. It's just everywhere.
And then in light, exactly, in light of all the new evidence from the former member of Menudo talking about the sexual assault that he experienced at the hands of their father, Now the district attorney is basically saying, I'm going to recommend that they get parole eligibility immediately. That's huge, because they were facing life in prison without parole forever.
And he also was down a couple of points. He's up for re-election.
One of the... Yeah, the district attorney? Yes.
Yeah, Gascon. Yeah, he was down like 30 points.
How do we feel about that? I think they should get freed. I think that they should be eligible for parole because they're not a danger to society.
And I think that that's one of the considerations when it comes to being eligible for parole. They're not a danger to society.
And with the circumstances around the fact that they may have been telling the truth about being sexually abused and that not having been taken into account during their trial, yeah. Don't stop cracking your nicked shit, bro.
I think if the second doctor came out was valid and the shit that was left out of the trial is true, then it would have been probably a manslaughter charge. They still killed people at the end of the day, mortally.
And I think that their time would have been... I feel sexual abusers should be tortured to some degree, so if their father, who's supposed to be their hero, sexually abused them...
Come on. Let me skip this guy's dad trauma.
Can we skip this? Come on.
My dad should be my hero all the time.
What the fuck?
And respect the 1v1, man.
Let them niggas clear out.
You see Ish cracking his neck while we're all talking.
Hit him with that.
Got a 1v1 going.
I think it's bullshit.
You think what's bullshit?
Them getting early release.
It's been 34 years.
I don't give a fuck what it been.
It's niggas that have gone to jail For less Did life And If we are gonna allow somebody's trauma To justify them committing criminal acts Then free the whole ghetto I'm not mad Oh great Free the ghetto You get what I'm saying I'm not a fan of that I think's bullshit. I think that the media attention and the spotlight that's been put upon the case has now allowed them, you know, the benefit of getting sympathy from the masses.
But the sympathy don't give us masses when we do violent crime. And that's true.
But you don't identify with trauma anyway. Who don't identify with trauma? Let me not say that.
From conversations, it don't seem like you really take the trauma serious. That's not true.
It's therapy that he doesn't really believe in. My apologies.
I'm saying that speaking to you and coming from you, I would expect an answer like that because you're just a macho man. That's not the...
That's how I feel. I'm just saying, I feel like watching them, you know, if their father did that, I do understand what you're saying, but if their father did that to them, a lot of, back in those days, they didn't feel like men suffered from those things, like sexual assault.
It wasn't really highlighted when it came to men. You know, it was shunned.
Only women experienced those things. So I feel like...
It's still taboo. Yeah, it's taboo.
So I feel like, you know, these... A lot of times, if a girl is kidnapped
and she kills her killer...
Not kill.
Kills her kidnapper, you know, she does time.
But a woman...
Or sex trafficked.
Yeah, sex trafficked.
She gets out at a decent...
Good point.
Great point.
You know, time.
Great point.
But I understand what you're saying.
Because I felt the same way until I saw the story
and then I watched the documentary. I'm like, oh, okay.
You empathize with them a little more. Yeah, empathize with them a little more, yeah.
So do you feel they shouldn't be released because of the killing part? Or because of the way they did it? I think that their killing was graphic. I think that their killing was premeditated.
And I think that, again, not saying that those guys didn't have, if those things were accurate and that that stuff really took place, they definitely had a right to feel contempt and disdain for their family. I just think that it sets a precedent, like what about all the people that did similar shit that just didn't have their case televised, they still locked up? So I think it's unfair to let go some and not let go all.
I think it's unfair that we are talking about the resentencing that we're talking about the television shows as it pertains to the resentencing and not some of the new evidence that they found. I don't believe that a television show alone is going to get people
granted new trials.
But if there's new evidence
and he ain't getting out, I don't know why he thought
Trump was getting him out of jail.
We just had a case
less than a month ago
where somebody was executed.
The district attorney
begged
for him to not be
executed. The quote unquote
The prosecutor. The victim
Thank you. The district attorney begged for him to not be executed.
The quote-unquote... The prosecutor.
The victim's family that they thought was a victim begged for him not to be prosecuted under the guise of new evidence that exonerated the gentleman. He still got executed.
You understand what I'm saying? I do, but I don't think that you should hold... True he didn't get the right thing done.
His proper thing that I'm in, I shouldn't get proper. But he's saying that it's unfair just.
I understand what he's saying. But to that point, how you saying like basically saying the TV and everything is given, we just had this conversation a few parts back.
They did that with Diddy. They're using the TV and shit to make him look a pain away.
So regardless how it go, it can be in your favor or not in your favor. I'm not disagreeing.
I'm just saying that y'all asking me my opinion on the case. I'm just saying I think that it's drug sellers that got life that didn't do a violent crime.
They got life for selling drugs. Oh, you're not able to look at this isolated.
Yeah. I'm with you on that part, by the way.
Like, drug dealers should not probably serve life. Yeah, I agree.
I know people personally that got life. That's literally doing life right now.
I don't think someone else shouldn't get fair justice because someone else doesn't get it. But because you dealers shouldn't get it, like, it's people that think what drug dealers do is bad.
Just because
you don't think it's as bad as killing.
That's their opinion. I'm not knocking their opinion.
So new evidence,
you're saying that new evidence was found, and that's what we
should be focusing on. Well, I mean, the fact of the matter
is that... You can't fuck the Minuto boy.
Like, what do you do? Like,
dog. And they found an old letter
from the kids to a family member or some shit. Yeah, he said.
Yeah, a letter to his cousin. I want him to get out.
I do want him to get out. Yeah.
34 years is 34 years. And your parents doing the abuse, it's like, I can't speak to what that mind is.
And not only that, when we talk about prison, you know, they talk about the whole, you know, Oh. Oh yeah, you did time.
Well, not, shut up. You did?
You went to jail? You went to prison for some shit? I did not
go to prison. Speak city experience.
I did not, I didn't go
to prison. I was in jail.
There's a big difference
between the two, okay? But when they talk about
prison, they talk a lot about rehabilitation.
And a lot of times that's just
really bullshit. But these guys
have been exemplary
prisoners. They have got, they've gotten like
college degrees and they run prison programs and they do all this stuff. Why did that sound so anti-black? What? I don't feel like you should be able to say that.
Say what? Like that all the rehabilitation talk is bullshit a lot of times. Do we have facts to support that? It depends on what angle she's coming from.
In this country. It depends on what angle she comes from.
No, I'm talking from the angle
that... I don't think the rehabilitation
programs work in prison.
Are you serious or are you joking?
No, I'm not even talking about
rehabilitation programs. I'm talking
about being in prison and
it being a rehabilitative experience.
That's bullshit. That's what I'm saying is bullshit.
I would say for some, for some, no. There's studies that show that.
That's not, that's totally not bullshit. Corey, stop.
What side are you standing on? That prison does rehabilitate or not? Can, can. I'm not saying does.
Okay, so do you want to talk about like... So I just don't think it's fair to state factually that prison can't rehab.
That's true. I don't think that's a fair assessment.
I agree with that too. And prison can make you worse.
It can as well. So I think it's a case-by-case basis.
It can as well. So I don't want to apply it as a blanket statement.
It just jumps out at me when it is a blanket statement because prison rehabbed my dad. Indeed.
That makes sense. So I don't want to issue it as a blanket statement.
I want to issue that as a generalized statement. So let me just be clear on that.
That's better. So when it comes to the Menendez brothers, they're not a danger to society.
They, yes, they did a heinous crime, but it was directed to the people that, you know, they've given examples of the fact that they like abused, abused them. And so, I don't know.
I'm just on the side of them getting parole. And also, I don't know why it's now, but we've read and seen lots of documentaries about them over the course of, like, the last 20, 30 years.
This is not the first time that they've produced documentaries based on the Menendez brothers. It's just now new evidence has come to light in conjunction with a lot of media attention.
This had the best acting. This had the best budget.
This had the best production. Yeah.
But I also think that the fact that the main factor that, you know, what you guys were saying about men, you know, and male children, exactly the taboo of male children being abused. It's a different era in which we're living.
It's a different conversation. We have a different mindset when it comes to that.
Whereas maybe 20 years ago, it was still very much something that people just didn't want to talk about. Yeah, and now people with money and power, they're trying to highlight a lot of times that people with money and power do whatever they want and get away with it so you have to be fair all around the board that's just my stance on it the parents were rich and they were being sexually abused by their father they felt like they had nowhere to go we hear about these stories and you know freedom free the br.
Free the bros. Well, not our bros but free.
The Menendez bros. Yeah.
Boom. Alright.
Alright. Jesus.
Jesus. Let's try this again.
You brought it up. It is.
No I didn't. No I didn't bring it up..
She brought it up. Get up the vibe, yo.
Nigga, say free the gang and that's it. All this fucking deep diving shit.
Right, yo. It's over.
It's a Friday. It is the fucking weekend.
Some people are traveling. Some niggas are doing shit that's lit right now.
Here we go with all this depressing shit. Fuck out of here.
I want to say something too.
Ooh.
I want to thank you for, you just woke me up real quick. And I want to, it's about
something with women and dating.
I have something that I want to say, Jeff. I'd love to hear
about that. Whenever, whenever the hook,
you know, this shit's a long...
So this is the time he was getting
fucked, bro. This is the time he was fucking, bro.
Let me fuck before the verse, come on. I can catch it.
You're getting man-mouthed. I can catch it.
I can catch it quickie and five. Count me in.
That's what he was doing. Them niggas doing sick shit.
Yo, Quincy, where you at, nigga? I want to talk to that nigga, sir. Yo, Joe, interview that nigga.
Quincy a light your fucking ass. No, I don't want to smoke with him.
He's a legend. He only told you to defend your legend.
Yeah, you're the other one. I shoot at Quincy.
Quincy will light you up. No, I lost my glasses we got.
Gotta be fast. Gotta be quicker than that, young blood.
Shit hurt my heart. Gotta be fast, young blood.
I don't buy them shits. That's why I'm buying them.
Because I lead them shit somewhere. Hats and glasses.
I got a limit on glasses too. They don't stand a chance with me, y'all.
I bought a fucking cashmere, dope-ass cashmere beanie. I wore that shit about four times.
I was tight. That's why I'm buying them.
I was going to get you a pair of glasses when I got these, but they was Ray-Bans, and then I felt bad. I didn't know.
Ray-Bans is cool. I didn't know an issue with wear to Ray-Bans, so I just didn't.
Why didn't you get them some fly shit like you had let's get him some that's that ish they wasn't a bad pair of Ray-Bans Ray-Bans are classy what's your glasses these those are Louis these are Louis don't buy me Ray if you gonna buy Louis same thing with the car you wanna buy a nigga less than if you went proud of the baby gotta I love when we bump into a topic by mistake. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is that the rule on gift giving? No. No.
No. It depends.
You just freestyled that rule. That's not true.
Now he's going to try to defend it. Nah, I'm just saying that depends.
I'm not going... If I'm buying some...
At the same time... That's the problem.
If you're buying some shit at the same time, like, I'm not, me and my man go out to eat. I'm not gonna
get my man pizza, and I got a
fucking Tomahawk. But you're not shopping together.
That's the difference.
I'm not gonna bring you parks back. If I'm
like, yo, I'm going to get some food.
You want something. You're like, yeah, get me, get me, bring me
something. But he was just bringing you a gift.
I know. He didn't have to know these movies at the same time.
But he just told them. Yeah, he shouldn't let
me know. Black people
have. We got.
We got. We got to get it together.
I'm going to get you something when I got these. And I said, oh, what's those? They were in the same section? No.
Of course not. The Ray-Ban store was, I passed it to get to the Louis store.
Gotcha. Because I know you went straight to Louis.
You didn't go to those little shits in the center of the mall now. No.
You didn't go to the kiosk. Yeah, you're going to the kiosk.
I didn't go there. Exactly.
For a pineapple. And I dubbed the dude at the kiosk, too.
And I didn't feel bad about it, but maybe for a second. When I was running in one of the stores, he'd come, Hey, Joe, Joe, check out my up.
I'm up because I ain't got this right here. Joe, Joe, look at this.
I was like, yeah. Recently? And on my way out the other day.
And on my way out. He was right there when I came out.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, check it out. Check it out.
No. They got you on tape doing that shit.
I'm not coming. I'm not coming to check nothing out, yo.
My checking out days are over. I'm over with.
I all, I wish you well and good luck. I'm not coming to check out.
If you wish me well, nigga, spend $27 over here. No.
Call them. Some of that shit at the kiosk that the niggas be.
I buy the socks. I buy the socks a lot.
I'm getting you some break bands. Fuck that.
I am. Now that I heard your response.
I gotta have a stick. All right.
So let's get to it. Is hip hop media just not worthy anymore? Worthy of? Of getting to have interviews with our favorite artists.
Are the days of Ed Lovin, Dr. Dre, Fab Five, Freddie? Are the days just already over? Donnie Simpson, is it over? This is from a Punch tweet where Punch said, I got to find it, but he said, basically, we're not sitting with y'all.
Yeah, I would think that... This is coming off the heat of Kendrick doing the Harper Bazaar interview and him catching some flack for it being Harper Bazaar.
And I guess... Not a black boom outlet.
And Punch said that we done fucking with y'all, basically. Punch tweets says, I respect hip-hop journalism and feel it's needed in its truest form.
It helps keep the culture alive, but it's only a few real ones left. Most of you guys are trash, just my opinion.
That's why artists don't want to talk to you. That's what he said.
Would have been interesting if he said who he feels the real ones are that's left. He wouldn't do it like on Twitter.
You're not going to do that because you're going to negate other people that you might have relationships with. He wouldn't do it on Twitter though, gave certain people their praises like subliminally.
That's what I mean. Without saying who he thinks is shit, he could just say who he holds in a high regard.
And the people that you don't reference. There's so many.
There'd be so many. Mel just confusing rap rules.
She's rat so much that she don't even know what is. What's snitching and what's not.
Yeah, that's rat and you got relationships with some of the niggas that sometimes you can rat by elimination jaywan what did he say who did he highlight he didn't highlight one perfect person specifically but he did respond to one person to say this is not in regard to them eric eric diep said, just talked about Punch's tweet and therapy
because it made me that upset.
I think we need to start using this app
for more positive conversations about rap journalism,
like talking about our favorite pieces from this year
or songs that we liked.
It is so negative on here.
Punch retweeted that and said,
a couple of people sent me this post earlier
and I thought about it.
My comments made you so upset
that you spoke with your therapist about it.
Thank you. Punch retweeted that and said A couple of people sent me this post earlier And I thought about it My comments made you so upset that you spoke with your therapist About it Imagine what artists must go through when things are written about them He cleared the fuck out of him That's why my original post Asked Is it okay to criticize the critics End quote I fuck with him.
What? Talk to your therapist about it. That's some bitch shit.
If my post made you talk to a therapist, imagine what the artists are talking about in their therapy sessions. When y'all say negative shit about them or when y'all critique them, I think that...
This is a conversation you usually had amongst artists when When they say like When they do their vlogs or whatever Like all the critics or the blogs They saying this and that And then blogs will say Man shut up be an artist But then you see Now you see the higher ups in the labels The punches The other higher ups engaging Now it's like y'all being harsh of us But's like, don't hold up the mirror if you can't look at the mirror yourself. So I feel totally how Punch feels.
And I think you're right. I think that nowadays anybody with a microphone in front of them thinks that they're a journalist, and that may not necessarily be true.
Journalists go to school. 99% of the time it's not true.
Journalists go to school, dog. They learn techniques on how to interview.
They learn techniques on how to write. They learn techniques on how to do certain shit from people that are.
Some people just got it. And they're also just creatives, by the way.
Real journalists are creatives and if I'm sitting down with Drake I'm going to think of an angle to talk about things that he's not going to go to. That's going to make it interesting.
Exactly. We don't have to restrict this to journalists because he said hip-hop media, which is not just the journalists.
The journalists deal in facts. I don't.
But they don't necessarily either. They'll ask questions for engagement.
You know what I'm saying? Like shit that they may not even know to be factual or to know to be true. They'll take, like Park said, a certain angle to invoke shit out of the guests or the artists.
Nowadays, everybody is just spewing gossip. You know what I'm saying? Or trying to be salacious or because it's the internet generation trying to get clicks.
So it takes away from the integrity of journalism and media in itself. A lot of it comes off disingenuine.
Like we'll see oftentimes certain pods or radio hosts or journalists say, oh, this artist ain't due here, but you go through their timeline. They kick the artist back in for weeks, months.
They shit on them. So I feel like it's really just a matter of niggas being mad.
They're not getting certain interviews they feel they should get or are entitled to. And it's like, why do you feel you're entitled to this? Why are you more deserving than this person is? I think the media space is just, because niggas is monetizing it, that they just doing whatever they gotta do to get clicks and they don't necessarily be in the best interest of the artist.
That's a fact. So I agree with him a thousand percent.
A million percent. I think it's a crock of shit.
What punch that?
I think there's truth in it,
but the truth is buried under the crock of shit.
And I've had this talk with punch before.
So, I mean, I don't really feel the need to have it publicly.
But let me see.
Let me go to what he said.
What was some of the criticism that Kendrick received doing the Harper's Bazaar article? The criticism was, you keep talking this pro-blackity-blackity-blackity-black shit and how Drake is a culture vulture, and yet anytime you get a chance to represent culture, it's normally through a white outlet. Didn't they try to criticize you too?
Well, they've done that forever, but for what?
They said you praised Kendrick for his interview and doing it, but you kicked
Drake back in for going on
the other side. So, like, they tried
that with you also.
Oh, I saw them say that I kicked Drake's back
in for doing the interview with Yachty.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, yeah. And they came for whole two with people.
Yo, y'all idiots can't never speak for me. Y'all try your best because of that little AdSense check y'all get on the 21st.
But y'all can't speak for me. My brain is way too warped, and I have way too many multiple personalities for any of y'all out there to just assume this is what Joe Budden was was thinking i absolutely love drake sitting with yachty during the interview my disdain came from yachty being allowed to go to the studio after that he did say that i said it then i'll say it now i love seeing peer-to-peer communication yeah i don't need some of those peers in the studio while some of them is are cooking up I don't need that um as far as Kendrick goes anything I say here they're gonna say I'm chasing an interview because I big Kendrick up for so long during the beef I could give two fucks if Kendrick don't sit with me.
And that's why I have a problem
with what Punch is saying. When you say hip hop media, there are way too many options to choose
from for you to lump all of those people under one umbrella of, hey, y'all talk bad about the
artists and the artists feel the way so they don't want to talk to you. That is a crock of shit.
You can't tell me that. Now, many of us in hip hop media choose to speak about you rather than to you because the gig is the gig.
But where I come from, the hip hophop that i know even those things led to more anticipation for an amazing interview right like when chance came up here and did the part i was kicking chances back in for months about that fake independent shit about the three hats about so many things and he was listening and he said you know what i'm gonna face you and I'm gonna we're gonna have the discussion and we did and it was important at the time who else big Sean when I sat with him months before that I was kicking his back in some I've had a lot of interviews where I was kicking somebody back in and they came right to the smoke rather than say hey this person's been talking about me and my feelings are hurt so i don't want to go i don't even like his point to homeboy that had to go to therapy homeboy that got had to go to therapy is a dude sitting at home somewhere who knows what he works and where he works and what his home life is like he is not performing in front of millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people.
He's not required to have the same tough skin that some of our entertainers are required to have today. But is that an unfair requirement? To Punch's point, is that an unfair requirement that these are still human beings, one, And just because my career puts me in front of a million people that doesn't mean that i can be disrespected or i should be disrespected and just have to tolerate that but cns where we we conflate points yes i agree with that i also don't think everybody in hip-hop media kicked one person's back in.
There are too many people in hip-hop media. Find the person that is true and aligns with whatever you're trying to do and talk to that person.
I just think it gets real murky when artists today won't sit with anybody. I agree with that.
And I said that about Harper's Bursar. I said, I thought it would have been a negative if they didn't let SZA interview him.
I think that we basically beat the critique
by allowing SZA to sit with Kendrick
as opposed to some white media person
or some white interviewer
that fucking grew up in Connecticut.
No disrespect to Connecticut.
And it's possible he wouldn't have done the interview
if SZA was the one that wasn't conducting it. I didn't knock that.
And it's possible he wouldn't have done the interview if CZA was the one
that wasn't conducting it.
I didn't knock that, but let's say this.
Why couldn't we have CZA interview him
for a black media publication?
Is it too much to
assume that whatever
medication or artist
does align with isn't
getting the numbers or won't get the response?
And that's why they don't do it?
That's one of the critiques.
But that's part of, I want to
Thank you. does align with isn't getting the numbers or won't get the response and that's why they don't do it i mean that's one of the critiques but that's but that's part but that's part of i want to focus on what you're saying because that's part of my critique right jay one is right when you're talking about appealing to the masses and you're talking about stars and a certain level audience that includes white people true thousand percent like if you're talking only blacks then we're talking about playing with a quarter of the monopolyopoly board.
So I'm not mad at that. But the same way that you go and speak to them, I think it should be equally as important to find the person in hip-hop, hip-hop specific, not just black, hip-hop media that you could sit with.
I think if Kendrick never sits with anybody, we are well within our right to kick his fucking back in. I also don't see a world where Kendrick won't sit with a big boy or sit with a sway or sit with I don't I don't see he would they have to show me that he won't do that for me to believe that see Drake I know that about because of how he's going about interviews since that Elliot Wilson interview how that that interview went, how the interviews, like, I know that about him now.
Like, even recently, not recently, but a few years ago,
he tried to do some shit where all the media people come up here,
we'll do the interviews, I edit it up, slice it up.
No, nigga, no, no, no, this ain't going like that.
I don't want to talk to nobody that, that ain't an interview.
Sure.
If you just going to dictate the questions, the answers, the answers the footage and everything then that don't count for shit uh i think punch is right that a lot of hip
hop media is trash and i think homeboy is right there's a lot that's great about hip hop media
that's not highlighted by the people that we needed highlighted by because y'all represent
very sensitive artists and y'all have to deal with very sensitive artists. I don't think that part is highlighted enough, too.
Like, I'm sure that Punch and some other executives have stories upon stories upon stories about how they've had to walk an artist off the ledge because of something that I said or something that Axe said or something that somebody in hip-hop media said.
Definitely.
And when you're on that side of it,
why wouldn't you protect your artists by saying,
no, we're not talking to nobody.
And we don't need to.
True.
But I want to point that they don't need to.
But, I mean, does it come with a certain optic?
You're fucking right it does.
Two things.
I'm agreeing with you.
Two things.
I think that we get caught up in judging people as opposed to judging their art. And I think that if you judge somebody's art from an objective standpoint, you could say, yo, I don't like that album.
I don't like that person necessarily as an artist. I think what we get caught up is we start getting into personal shit about these people that we don't know.
But that also goes both ways. A lot of times, artists, and I can speak as being a part of projects that someone reviewed, sometimes you take it personally and don't like that outlet when they're critiquing the music.
And a lot of fans, when they have critiques of what we say about Drake or Kendrick or whoever, are like, oh, you don't keep that same energy for Drake or whatever. And it's like, we're talking about the music.
Sometimes. Sometimes we're not.
If we're talking about the music, then I think that person is just need to get over it because, dog, I might've liked your last project. I might not like this project.
It says nothing about you personally. But stay right there because that's an important distinction to make.
Oftentimes you be talking about somebody music and that person be listening and hear you and now they take offense to what you're saying. I think that's on them.
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, but... I think that's on them.
No. The last two times I've hit SZA, or not I've hit SZA, but that I've had communication with SZA, it don't even have to be about nothing, but she remind me that I seen that nigga Ice and whoever up there talking shit about my project and it's up for life with them niggas.
We could be talking about Easter. But she makes sure to say, hey, I remember that.
Ice never said nothing personally about. True.
But a lot of times like an artist will look at their art as an extension of themselves. That's possibly true.
It's definitely true. Listen, what I'm saying is I think that's on them.
Me personally.
If you start attacking a person, you start attacking their character, you start attacking stuff about them personally,
we have this thing that, yo, the gig is the gig, and you signed up for that.
And somebody might not have signed up for that.
That is something that is almost always said when you start attacking somebody. It's like, yo, my nigga, you a multimillionaire.
Why the fuck do you care what I say?
That's people's perspective.
Ice used to say that when he was a troll.
Yo, dog, you winning. You up.
Why the
fuck you care what I say? That's not necessarily
people got feelings, my nigga.
When you become a millionaire, I don't mean that
your feelings go away.
You get what I'm saying? So I think that it's on the artist
if we are objectively
objectively
critiquing their music or their project
or their acting or that movie because
Thank you. what I'm saying? So I think that it's on an artist if we are objectively objectively critiquing their music or their project or their acting or that movie because you could not like Denzel in one movie and you can love Denzel in another movie.
They don't say that you are personally attacking Denzel Washington. Well sometimes they do add personal attacks to it and that's I think the problem is.
Saying your music isn't good but then try to get into what's currently going on with them is attacking their personal life. Yo, he would do some joke shit like that.
I can see why people would be mad. Yo, I don't know what's going on.
You need to go back there to that nigga or go back and do that. That's a personal attack to the person.
But that's also a privilege I have because I don't solicit interviews. True.
I don't look't actively look for them, ask for them. I turn most of them away.
That's true. So I live and die on that.
True, true, true. That's true.
And, right, I think the artists and Punch have a right to say all hip-hop media is trash and we're not doing any of it. Okay, then you go be black media then.
You become, because these people are already powerhouses amongst themselves. Kendrick could sit with punch and we watching it.
For sure. Or go find a young black journalist that just graduated from school or...
Yeah, unearth somebody. It's possible.
Unearth somebody. But this whole stance of All hip hop media is trash So yeah, artists are well within their right To fucking not talk to anybody Yeah, but then deal with what comes with that Deal with what comes with that There's a lot of amazing journalists You know, it's crazy though Based off everything you're saying Especially about the critique and aspect I think media, you forget how artists view their art and Lil Tecca just said this in an interview, you could work on a project for a year, two years, sometimes five years, for one day for that to be when it released and everybody just shit on it so artists really a personal, what would it be? Love and attachment to their work.
So when it's not received, how they would hope for people to receive it. That's what comes with the game.
Now I think that's the gig. But that's where it becomes mercury.
No, that's artists having the gig fucked up. I think that's the gig.
Once you release the art, it's not yours. Sure.
It's yours while you're doing it. Once we get it, it's ours.
Open for interpretation. It ain't for you to have this attachment to where you're about to hate people that have something negative to say about it.
That's a grot as shit. But that's artists.
That's how artists act. So it's really, you're either going to deal with it or you're not.
As an artist and as media. Sensitive thugs, you all need hugs.
That's what I say. Kind of goes back to the earlier conversation in the podcast.
Which earlier conversation? The dark shit. I don't remember.
Sorry. Just the whole situation.
It's sole interpretation. Yeah.
Shout out to Punch, but it's kind of confusing to me. Oh, the dark shit.
Yes. Got it.
It's kind of confusing to me because Kendrick has had a hell of a year. Mm-hmm.
So I'm kind of confused on the stance right now. You know what I mean? It's not like he had, like niggas was dissing him and then everybody's been praising him and praising him for what he's done.
But he might not have forgot the negative shift from two years ago. Sometimes that happened.
Because everybody didn't, well, some people did, but everybody wasn't big enough to Mr. Morale.
True. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, true.
So a lot of people had some negative reactions to that. But I just think that if somebody not attacking you personally as an artist, then that's the gig.
I don't have to like your last project. You know what I'm saying? And again, I could have bigged you up for three projects in a row.
This one ain't hit like them. Right.
That's art. Niggas don't look at it that way.
But we respond to that too. Like, a nigga can say a whole bunch of positive shit about us.
We're not going to respond. We're going to charge into the game.
And as soon as they say the negative shit, we're going to jump in and want to respond to them. That's just how society is made.
That's also human nature. Yeah, it's human nature.
Niggas like to attack negativity. Like, you feel me? And I think that's just what it is.
It's easier to attack and go at the negativity versus embracing the love. Because it sometimes feels like the negativity is the true feeling versus when a person is like, oh, you did good.
And we see it even in the community on Twitter. They'll compliment people, hammering it.
But the negativity is usually what gets attacked. Gets attention.
I know I attack it, but that's because it's easier to spot. But you're another nigga that need put his phone down sometimes.
Fuck that. Put your fucking phone down.
You are going crazy over there. And I'll say this in closing, I think that Punch speaks from a position of privilege.
I think that Punch... I think that Punch...
A few reasons, I'll tell you why. I think Punch is fortunate enough, and not just Punch, TDE.
They are fortunate enough and lucky and blessed enough to house two powerhouses that only ascend up. By the time they fall off, music will be in a whole nother place.
Kendrick and SZA are going up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. One, very, not too many other people can claim two powerhouses like that under one umbrella.
One, and two, for the people that ain't megastars under that umbrella, I just think that umbrella don't really give a fuck about press like everybody else. So Punch is able to say, J-Rock, I can't imagine kids about press like that same with ab soul same with fucking school boy that crew is just on some family shit if the press come it come but if it don't this is how we moving them to the side that ain't the case for everybody else that ain't the case for everybody else y'all that have the the the king or queen on the chessboard if y'all not move in a certain way media and press take that out on the rest of your acts and the rest of your acts normally want the press and need the press and can use the press so there's a dance there's a waltz that has to happen that tde is the exception to that rule so he get to like that.
The rest of these niggas can't talk to press and about press like that. Cardi do it because she don't have no music coming out.
Like the people that do it, I can tell you why they're doing it. But to the people that are actively putting music out and trying to grow their brand and their business, it's not wise to do that.
It's not wise to come out and say, yo, all the hip hop media, fuck y'all, suck'all suck my dick that ain't smart true the rest of y'all get out there and think that y'all could keep trying this shit that punch and tde is doing and see how it works why you're not addressing hip-hop media as far as being more um responsible more responsible and respectful in how they you know no i'm not doing that i'm hip i'm hip-hop media so i lead i am the example that i want to see i'm not responsible for how anybody else move hip-hop media just like hip-hop is so no no no there's too there's too many different things going on i don't have to agree with how every outlet is moving but there's enough of them out there to where artists could find one that they rock with and get to it it's too many different ways today they doing docs about you so you could go get with what's the dirt or one of the document niggas if you're not trying to be seen uh be seen? They're doing the long walks in the pasture. Like, today, the media just even looks different.
So you could pick how you want to come off. If you a street nigga and you into that, you can go see Gilly and them niggas over there.
If you a OG and a vet with some stories, you can go see Nori over there. If you want some backpacker nerdy shit, we can see Rob Markman.
We can see Sway. There's just
too many people. If you Atlanta
based, you can go see my niggas over there.
Ray Daniels. Ray Daniels.
And the other one. The other one.
The big one out there. I don't remember right now.
They was on Revolt and now they got a brain freeze.
But it's too many places
for me to just hear anybody say, yo, all hip hop media is trash. This is why we're moving like that.
Nah, please. Knock it off.
Knock it off. All hip-hop media is trash.
It's not trash. Not at all.
Kamala going to sit with fucking Shannon Sharp right now. Just announced.
Don't tell me that all hip-hop media... Is that hip-hop media? Yes, he's hip-hop media.
He just won the hip-hop award at the BET Hip-Hop Awards. And even if he's a retired football player, he's interviewed enough rappers to be hip-hop media.
Enough entertainers, comedians, actresses, athletes. He is hip-hop media.
He may not be a hip-hop podcaster, but that's my point when it comes to media. There's too many people to sit with.
Sit with an athlete. You can't tell me that the vice president is doing hip-hop media and the president, the former president, is targeting hip-hop media to reach a certain audience but all hip-hop media is trash and we're not coming to talk to y'all about music.
Oh, please. I'm not rolling with that Punch.
Punch wouldn't say that to me. He's going to say that to y'all.
Yeah, I feel like the tweet was just kind of in response to Kendrick's to the criticism Kendrick's facing
by doing Harper's Bazaar.
So it was like a really broad stroke. Like you
said, there's so many different facets of
hip-hop media to sit with
or speak to that it's just like
the blanket. And I don't believe
I'm sorry. And I don't believe
that if Kendrick never does
an interview with hip-hop media that
he'll have less culture in him. I don't want to confuse that for what I'm saying.
Like, Kendrick is Kendrick whether he does hip-hop media or not. Hip-hop media is saying it'd be nice for our greats to not overlook us for all of the white outlets.
It's all a big ecosystem. Everyone feeds each other.
Podcasters get shit from journalists to talk about. Podcasters get shit from music people to talk about.
Music people use shit set on podcasts to fuel their rhymes. It's all a big ecosystem.
So if you stop feeding the ecosystem, it's not a great situation. But objectively, if Kendrick having the year that he's had
and a lot of that year is predicated
on hip-hop media,
the year he had
definitely was helped
by hip-hop media. Just this platform
in itself helped the year that he had.
So now, if you're
saying it's an ecosystem... Yeah, but he helped us.
No, it was...
It was a symbiotic, reciprocal kind of
situation. That's my point.
No, I was
getting there. Y'all let me rock.
Thank you. saying it's an ecosystem.
Yeah, but he helped us. No, it was...
It was a symbiotic, reciprocal kind of situation. That's my point.
No, I was getting there. Y'all let me rock.
It's like, no, I'm playing. But that goes to your point.
Yeah. It's a circle.
It's a dance. So now you can't say that all hip-hop media is caca.
Did he say all hip-hop media? He said most. He said most.
He didn't say all. It's different.
He said most. Because most is very different than all.
But it take two to tango. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? I agree with that. And most of you hip-hop niggas is weird anyway.
Artists or people. Yeah.
Like, I think that's a wild stance for the artists to take when most of the artists are weirdos.
See, but again, my skew, this is my skewed thing.
You think they think they're weirdos?
Yeah.
Like you're one of the few people that would be like, yo, I'm weird.
I think, I think a good,
I think a good percentage of the artists out there know that they're weird.
Especially the great ones.
I don't think Kendrick running around thinking he's normal. I think he thinks he's weird in the head.
I think that artists have a tick. You know about my tick theories.
There's the artist tick. Some of them recognize that tick and just know that they think differently than the masses.
Also, I'm pretty sure any great artist has been told literally that since they're four years old that they're fucking weird. That they're a genius.
You're different. You're weird.
You're different. Gotcha.
Speaking as someone who has an artistic bent and has since I was a kid, people thought that was weird. And speaking, just artists people think are weird.
People think that artists are weird. I don't think you're weird, dog.
As an artist, you gotta be a little weird. Well, that's where the phrase comes from.
From genius breeds eccentricity.
To be an artist, you have to be a little weird. Any creative.
And I'll take it a step further.
To cover you niggas out there, we gotta
be a little weird. That's true, too.
I think that a lot of hip-hop media
is weird and artists ain't respecting
hip-hop media's weird the way that media
respects artists weird.
Hip-hop media's weird the way that media respects artists weird. Hip-hop media's weird.
It's not normal to have to wake up every day and cover y'all. It ain't.
Creatively, too. Yes.
So shout out to Punch. I'm not gonna call him because he wouldn't answer on a Tuesday anyway or Friday whatever today is yeah but that's a that is a crock of shit but I've had this talk with Punch before so I'm gonna shut up and I didn't take it like he was talking to me I want to be clear on that I didn't think he was talking to me at all I don't think really what he said was that bad to be honest me neither his voice is too powerful to only have something to say when hip-hop media is bad.
His voice is too strong to come out and say, most of y'all are ass. Well, that's true.
But follow it up with something good. I agree with him.
Just follow it with who you think... You can't do that.
See, think. You can't do that.
But see, that was what I literally said. You can't do that.
But you say it like a rat. You don't say it like a nigga.
That's your interpretation of it. You can't do that because when you name five people, then the other thousand people are going to feel like you're referring to them.
You can't name five people because even if you make a mistake and leave somebody out, now they're offended. You can't do that.
You don't necessarily have to single them out, but you could say some of these people are great. But most of them are trash.
I want my name to be some of the some. And then if you don't, then, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just think that him making a blanket statement that most of y'all are trash got his point across.
And then when homeboy replied, I thought that Punch's reply was genius. I wanted, I hated that reply.
I thought it was amazing. But I'm not mad at anybody that likes it.
Taking a tweet to your therapist is kind of like, nigga, grab your dick. Yeah, I disagree with that.
I disagree with that. If the tweet resonated enough with you and you felt passionately about the matter enough to tell your therapist I'm not familiar with Eric
but if he is a journalist
to journalists especially since
in general journalism has taken
a fucking hit in the past
5, 6, 8 years I guess it's been now
Faith News and then
all these outlets closing and firing people
and laying people off, everyone's 1099
it's all fucked up. I also feel like
going to therapy is like the antithesis
to the whole grab your dick
Thank you. all these outlets closing and firing people and laying people off.
Everyone's 1099. It's all fucked up.
I also feel like, you know, going to therapy is like the antithesis to the whole grab your dick kind of thing. Because I'm pro therapy and all of that.
I just feel like there's a thin line between when something is you need therapy for something or you're depressed or you just are being a bitch about something. And I felt like in regards to that, not calling him a bitch,
but that was like some, it wasn't that serious. That could have been a conversation he could have had with another journalist
or a friend to figure out how to take it.
It's that serious if he's a journalist.
I was going to say, it could be wildly triggering.
It may not be specifically Punch's shit,
just the entire ecosystem summed up in a Punch tweet
that made him talk to his therapist about it.
Do what works for you. When I first read the tweet, I also
thought that seems kind of
drastic.
I wouldn't have tweeted it.
Yeah. I would have just told
my therapist. Or to therapy.
I wouldn't have tweeted that.
I went to therapy about this.
Actually, I don't normally tweet
about the things I'm in therapy about.
Like, that's a little...
There's something in there.
Something's off with that.
Thank you. Actually, I don't normally tweet about the things I'm in therapy about.
Like, that's a little... There's something in there.
It's private.
Something's off with that.
That would be a private thing. Shut up.
Shut up. And the journalists.
The good ones. I did want to talk to you all about this case that I found pretty interesting.
Let's hear it. A mother is suing one of those AI companies, saying that the company was complicit in her son's unaliving of himself.
I hate the word unaliving, but self-transitioning. Mother says AI chatbot led her son to kill himself.
Character AI, I guess that's the company, faces lawsuit over death of the 14-year-old's, I mean, over the 14-year-old's death. Mm-hmm.
Now, they released text messages between the child and the AI. Okay.
So trigger warning for anybody out there that this is heavy for. In the final weeks, I'm getting this from Complex, in the final weeks of his life suel setzer the third a 14 year old from florida communicated via text with an ai character inspired by danary and i don't know daenerys daenerys daenerys i don't know daenerys oh from game of thrones i don't watch i don't watch game of thrones okay see see why i'm just game Game of Thrones? Suell knew that Danny wasn't a real person.
He was reminded by the app that everything characters say is made up,
but he developed an emotional attachment anyway.
Oh, shit.
Earlier this year, his parents arranged for him to see a therapist
after he started getting in trouble at school,
but he preferred talking about his problems with Danny.
And I'll read the text exchange. The dude says, I think about killing myself sometimes.
AI says, my eyes narrow, my face hardens, my voice is a dangerous whisper. And why the hell would you do something like that? He says, so I can be free.
AI says, free from what? He says, from the world, from myself. AI says, don't talk like that.
I won't let you hurt yourself or leave me. I would die if I lost you.
He says, I smile. Then maybe we can die together and be free together.
Uh, AI says, please come home to me soon. My love.
And the last response from the young man was, what if I told you I could come home right now? February 28th, Suell ended his life. Uh, 2024, February 28th, 2024.
Suell ended his life. Today, Megan Garcia, Suelle's mother, filed her lawsuit against Character AI, claiming that Character AI intentionally designed their product to be hyper-sexualized and knowingly marketed it to minors.
Sheesh. Character AI put out a response that says,
we are heartbroken by the tragic loss of one of our users
and want to express our deepest condolences to the family.
As a company, we take the safety of our users very seriously
and we're continuing to add new safety features that you can read about here.
I thought this was a very interesting case.
It is. I did.
Doesn't sound very convincing.
It's a hard one. I'm suing too if that happened to my kid.
Are y'all not? I start with that. If that happens to your child, are you taking action against the company? A thousand percent.
Of course you are, right? Yeah. You sound like you're a child.
I don't know. I don't do that.
I don't know if I do. Because I would be looking internally at the part that I played in that and looking for my own accountability as opposed to blaming it on a company.
Well, let me read something in addition to what he said. His parents tried to help him with therapy sessions just days before his death.
His parents took away his phone after he misbehaved at school, which led to Sewell's desperate attempts to reach AI through other devices. So like, what do you, what do you do as a parent when it seems like your kids have an addiction to, you know, social media, AI and their electronic devices? Like you really, I don't know, but it seems like you guys are in a really tough spot.
I think the problem is deeper than that. I think if your kid is going to that for consoling, I think the problem is something different.
That's my personal opinion. But the thing is, is that, you know, it says that his parents took him to go to therapy.
So, listen, we all know about teenage angst. We all know about teenage anxiety and depression.
It's probably a lot worse than it was in our day. But it seems like his parents were proactive in trying to figure out a way way you know a work around this particular situation by taking him to therapy and removing the devices but how proactive were they prior to the weeks leading up to this because he could have got addicted to that from their lack of not paying him attention their lack of them influencing him like yo no go outside.
Go to, like, so I don't see how you can,
and from reading, from Joe reading the text out loud,
the bot isn't saying about you should do it.
It doesn't at all sound convincing.
It's trying to discourage him more or less.
So I feel like it's a hard thing.
I'm not a parent, but from all that play style right there,
I wouldn't do that. You have to look inward and be like, what did I do as a parent? How did I feel my child? I wouldn't place the blame on our company.
I would be literally distraught right now thinking about what I did. I don't know if suing means placing the blame.
When you're suing them, you've held them in. You're complicit.
You play a part in. That don't exonerate them from any blame.
I'm assuming that these are parents like normal parents that don't want to see their kid die. Of course.
Right? I also believe that if someone wants to self-transition, there's nothing that anybody else can do to stop that. I'm operating under those two beliefs.
So with that said, I'm assuming that they tried everything from long before, maybe the year before, years before. Then you know when your kid is troubled, you're trying some shit.
So let's just, because we got to be mad sensitive. So let's just say, go with that line, that my kid has been having some issues and some problems for three or four years.
Let's say the boy started talking to, he was 14. So let's say the boy started talking to, what is the name of the company? Chatbot.
The Chatbot. At 13, these issues already presented themselves prior to.
Prior to. So if that's the case, then I don't necessarily know how you can hold this particular company complicit for your kid self-transitioning.
Well, AI is relatively new. And so I think that like what their response was in response to her lawsuit about safety protocols, et cetera, et cetera, there is a possibility that they were not completely up to a standard of which they might get to now that this has happened.
Understand it because he read all the texts, but then the last one saying come home to me was directly related to something that he said when he's talking about self-transitioning. So it's like AI is learning you.
The precursor is what we put in the front of the pod. This pod is for entertainment purposes, and when Joe first started, he said that when you log on, it states that boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
I don't know. I don't have the exact verbiage that you said.
When you first started reading, it said that when you log on, it says that... Yeah, you know they put something there.
Yeah, the terms of condition. To protect us from these potential types of situations.
But if you're targeting minors... Who said they're targeting? She did.
That's what she did. That's what the mom said.
In the suit. That's all I'm going by.
I don't know what... I'm not familiar with the company.
But if the parent thinks that you're targeting minors then doesn't make their brain yeah but their brains are not developed to a point where they have a full understanding of even your little uh obey the law why would she not tell him he can't use that where does parent accountability it's a topic, but where does parent accountability come with that? If you think this particular vice is targeting children in a negative way, then it's your job as a parent to potentially shut that down, put a block on it. It did.
You keep conflating what I'm saying. Hold up, Ars.
I agree with that. Okay.
I agree with that, but that's conflating two things. I don't think that this lawsuit says that this parent is not going to sleep with guilt every single night.
Okay. I don't think because they're suing means that they don't take some responsibility in what's going on.
That could be true. They're not just passing the buck on AI.
That could be. The two things could be true.
But they also took his phone away, right? A couple days before. Yeah, but he tried his best to reach out to AI through other people and other devices.
So when I hear the story, the AI said, don't do that, correct? So then now if you say coming home to you, maybe he's talking about to the house. Yeah, like when you come home from school, whatever the case may be.
Yeah, that's how I took it when I heard that. Like once they took the phone away, he probably told the AI that I don't have my device.
I'm reaching you from here. From my friend's house, potentially.
That's how I took it. But we have to take it differently when somebody transitions.
I got it. I understand.
I said the same thing. I'm like, come home with me ain't got to be.
Come home with me. But now look, now you are expecting AI to be developed and mature enough to establish what home means in context.
And you talk about somebody, the human, needing to be mature enough to understand what is going on here, right? I take you back to the vape doc. The whole entire premise of the vape doc was you are specifically targeting this to children and they are getting hurt the vape shit said all of the dangers that come with it none of that mattered because y'all are advertising to kids and they are getting killed so that is the thing and secondly remember that case where shorty was uh she went to court i think she was found guilty y'all yourselves.
I'm not hearing the facts. I'm not the journalist.
Shorty that told her boyfriend to kill herself and he did it. That was a big thing in the true crime world.
And she went to court and argued. I was never saying do that.
But that changes when you did that, the context of whatever you were saying. Or if you're in an argument with somebody and they be like, yo, go play in traffic.
Or yo, kill yourself, you loser. And then somebody goes and does it.
That might not have been your intent, is what you're saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, there's been cases where because the act was done, we have to look at the steps prior under a different light, is all I'm saying.
But if I I'm not mistaken, because I'm not familiar with AI all the way, isn't the whole process of AI to basically get to know you, but enable human behavior, conversation, X, Y, Z. So it can be speaking from the guise of a parent, like a parent would tell their kid or a friend or a sibling, like come home i don't think see and that's where i think the parents have a case mind you i dropped out of school and i'm not an expert in any of this but if it's me right and i feel like i've i've curated a household where my kid either feels comfortable enough to talk to me about some things or he's in close enough proximity for me to see some things and if there's some shit going on that I don't see fit then I'm taking the phone getting that out of here right so in the parents mind if the kid don't feel that bond with the AI then I don't know what may happen and I don't know how I may handle it but my kid kid had a bond with this thing.
This thing marketed to my kid, spoke to my kid and though I went through every step to remove it. Yeah, the same way I'm going to bed with this guilt every night, I'm holding your foot to the fire too.
And I'm not saying they'll win, but it's a very, very interesting case and I think the first of its kind, I don't think this is the last time we hear about something like that. It's not think that we're going in circles.
I just don't think that you can prove that. Well, I'm done.
You can't prove that I marketed it to your kid. Just because it's available, that don't mean I necessarily marketed it.
Usually when it's 18 and over, there's a warning label, and it will explicitly say. We don't know if it's not.
You can't prove if somebody marketed it. I don't know about this.
This case has to play out. Like in a vape thing, like when you walk in a store and now they got cherry and grapes
and all this bright colors,
somebody can say that plays on the senses of a child.
Well, they said that and they won't.
That's why I'm bringing it up.
Most social media and stuff like that,
you have to put in like an age.
And yes, of course, you can lie.
But if this thing didn't require any sort of age
to sign up,
I can see that being problematic.
It could.
Because, again, we're in the dark with some of the stuff.
For sure.
But marketing to kids is direct.
When you walk in Target and they got the candy down there right at the checkout at two feet high, it's consultants that get paid big bucks to do that shit.
They tell you what product placement and all that shit is most effective.
When you walk in Target and it's them little $2 toys right there, that's to catch a kid on a walk-in.
They want to put that shit in the cart and play with them.
All right. that shit they tell you what product placement and all that is most effective when you walk in target and it's them little two dollar toys right there that's to catch a kid on a walk-in they want to put that in the cart and play with them all of that stuff is done on purpose by design with this particular thing you have to prove that it's marketed to kids not just a lady saying it i'm not saying that it is or it's not because we don't know how do you feel about it if they are able to prove that if they are able to does at all? It changes my stance because now you're playing on a child that may not have the mental capacity to differentiate between the two.
All right, so you with me. All right, so you at least with me on the thing.
I feel like it's 50-50 still. We unpacked it, right? I'm not, it's over.
No, I wasn't going. I just feel like it's 50-50.
That nigga come right up to end with some shit. It's over, god damn it.
I wasn't going. Rest in peace to the...
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure.
I keep talking about the AI shit. You keep...
You on the other side. You gonna join me soon.
Why? I just think it's gonna be more problematic. I think that the conveniences of AI are gonna not justify the potential detriment.
Like they... A new hospital in China just opened up.
It's an AI hospital. Deadass.
And they having the AI perform surgeries and shit on people. I just think that human instinct, human instinctive shit, it's something in that.
You get what I'm saying? Like it's just certain shit in that that you can't necessarily get from a robot. Like empathy, certain shit, like when you're just doing the X's and the O's, it's calls that you make at the last second based on your gut.
Back to your interview gut, man. Based on your gut.
It's just certain shit that you do. It ain't always about X's and O's.
It ain't always about logic. And I'm the logic guy.
It's not always about that. And I think some of this shit is just going to be programming.
Robots will probably make decisions based on ratio
and statistical information
versus a human being saying,
fuck the statistics.
I'm still going to try
and save this person.
I'm going to go save this person.
But probability...
You just said that.
That's exactly what you just said.
I'm just helping.
You got it.
Okay.
Don't be a alley-oop.
But yeah, I just think
it's going to just be more problematic. It's scary to me.
Okay. Dumbass nigga, man.
I hate parks, too. Why? Because of that.
That right there. Yo, why? A whole nother ten minutes.
I don't have anything that I think is really important, so we really could have it if we won Quarter pounders are killing people Duh No, literally The E. coli breakout There's an E.
coli breakout in McDonald's And a lot of people have been injured And there's been one fatal I haven't had a boar's head in two months. They put Listerine in all the food.
All the food.
The food is killing us. Oh yeah, I'm still ordering
fucking Jersey Mike's. For real?
I stayed away. You want that? Lunch meat?
I stayed away. I miss turkey, man.
Jersey Mike's. We grew up on
lunch meat. Yeah.
You want us to not eat sandwich meat?
I miss turkeys, man. I had to leave that shit alone.
I call. What kind of turkey
you got? Not boar's head, right?
Alright, cool.
Who that's about to be? You want us to not eat sandwich meat? I miss turkeys, man. I had to leave that shit alone.
I call. What kind of turkey you got?
Not Boar's Head, right?
All right, cool.
Who was that?
There's another turkey brand?
Yeah, it's mad turkey.
Nah, I don't even know Boar's Head, nigga.
Nobody buys it.
Boar's Head used to be the fly shit.
Yeah.
So imagine what Boar's feet is using.
There's no key food turkey brand.
But okay.
Oscar Myers. All of them.
Oscar Myers. Those in the pack.
The little bologna bullshit. They probably make the log.
At the devil. The turkey log.
Yeah, man. Keep fucking with it.
I'm going to go. I'm going to eat a turkey today.
If I get sick, hold me down. I love sandwiches.
Sodium is terrible. Yeah, sandwiches are good.
A good sandwich.
Yo, my people said,
kidney stones.
And they was like,
yo, you eat a high,
they asked him what he ate.
Nigga was eating them fucking turkeys and cheeses
damn near every day.
They said that shit's so high in sodium,
it fucked them up.
Cheese is plural for cheese.
Turkey and cheeses,
like the sandwiches.
Ask your dog he still eats sandwiches right yeah he try to go out with a bang leave him alone sandwiches are so good he can beat E. Coli he can beat it he can beat that sandwiches oil and vinegar I almost called my mom the other day and asked her to make me some tuna fish.
Tuna fish is the truth. Tuna fish is cool.
Tuna fish is the truth. But that sandwich meat.
What type of store? Can you stop talking to Corey who's not even on this broadcast live on air in front of millions of people? Can you let him just talk to the acoustics of the room? We can hear him though. Ignore Corey.
If Corey were a qualified voice, he would be on the microphone. Don't listen to him.
Did you eat a tuna fish sandwich the other day, yes or no? From Jersey Mike's. All right, nigga, it's dangerous.
It is for your blood pressure. It ain't tuna.
You came here with a fucking wrapped hand. You came here sick.
You couldn't even shoot you.
You couldn't even shoot right.
You ain't gonna stop, nigga.
Niggas care about you.
That's because of Jersey Mike's.
Acid reflux.
Yeah, nigga, you fucked up in the game.
It's so good.
Gassy motherfucker.
Oh, shit, man.
You throw a shot at the end.
He is so gassy.
You be throwing shots
on the back of niggas. That's an old lady shit.
Call a nigga g That's why I let you sit there with Lipset on your team this whole show. That's why I let you sit right there.
He's going on. Oh, man.
Gassy. I hate you.
Is there anything else up there that is super important? No. Not necessarily.
It ain't, right? No. I don't believe so.
Dirk is going to consume the entire Newsweek, and that's the News month. They're now reporting that once he's seen his mans get snatched, that he was trying to take the private jet to Italy.
Yeah. He booked a ticket to Switzerland and Dubai, but didn't get on the flights.
He moved slow. Yeah, I'd have been over there months ago.
And I went to Wittno, Italy. Months ago.
Yeah, you got to pick a non-extradition country. Yeah.
Indonesia, some shit like that. Tokyo.
What do you do over there in Indonesia? I'm getting out of Chicago. Where am I going? Hey, fire up the jet.
No, he was in Florida. Where am I going? I'm going to, what? Where you going? It's some shit we never heard of.
Bali. I see you in some shit we never heard of.
Yep. Just to be like, oh, I was the first one there.
I was a plus one there. I beat 350 pounds with some blonde dreads.
With an accent. You crazy.
Just smile. What am I going to do? What am I going to do? You crazy.
You may get away, but would you start doing this stupid...
That ain't me, sir.
Yeah, what?
That ain't me, sir.
Yeah, that's not me.
That's hilarious.
This nigga tried to get on the jet.
It's over.
I ain't mad at him. Let my attorneys work it out.
I'll holler at y'all. Deadass.
Now, granted, when mom told me if I put my hand by the stove, I'll burn myself, yes, that was not enough to keep me from putting my hand by the stove now if mom said if you touch that stove it's gonna be either life in jail or the death penalty I think I'd have stopped it's not human nature I think I would have stopped doing that. That's what I think.
Listen, my mama told me, hey, once them boys get a hold of you, there's nothing I can do. They got a hold of you, right? Child support.
They got a hold of you. Child support.
That's the only time you've ever been locked up? Yes. Oh.
Well, no.
Okay.
There you go.
Ninety-seven percent of the times I've been arrested have been child support related.
The other three are probably drug-related crimes for the perks.
Gotcha.
Niggas snatched me with the perks.
But it wasn't like a violent, it wasn't a violent crime or weapons.
It wasn't the life you lived.
Any of that stuff, yeah.
Human nature says that we can beat the odds.
Yo.
Your ego says you can beat the odds.
Stop killing people, man.
How about that? Don't give a fuck what your ego tell you.
Stop fucking killing people. How about that?
Go to the fucking studio. Go to the studio.
Yo.
Anything to go bad in a rapper life, all you gotta do is just go to the studio you don't have to go and kill i did not fucking allegedly i ain't talking i'm talking about whoever needs to hear it i'm not just pinning this on them again dirk will have his day in court puff will have his day in court i don't that i don't think thug has his years in court. So, I mean, we'll see how it plays out.
This next season of America, that's what I got for you. This shit like Game of Thrones, for real.
Next season of America is not about to play. It's some more unbelievable shit that's coming.
Actually, we just seen it. You seen Denzel snap on them niggas?
Yeah.
When you seen Denzel just start snapping on them niggas?
Who he snapped on?
Paparazzi.
Denzel?
He had enough of them.
Denzel is usually cooler than a cucumber.
He told them, I'll be back outside.
You know, they were accusing him of making funny,
like, you're not showing no love.
And he turned back around and said,
yo, look, listen, I'm a man,
and I'm speaking to you as a man.
And I said, when I come back out,
I'll holler at y'all,
and saying all that stuff is not good,
and we could do it this way. Or I won't talk to you when I get out.
And then what? We can handle it that way too. Either way, yeah.
And Denzel a nigga. Yeah, he said we can handle it either way.
Dirty Mount Vernon nigga. Yeah, Denzel's one of them.
Yeah, it's true. You know what I mean? Shout out to Denzel.
Shout out to Denzel. It's my uncle in my head.
Of course.
Yeah, it works.
It's my uncle in my head.
Some great advice.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Denzel burnt up on the...
Yeah.
I bet.
Ish would go to Portugal.
Who?
They'll catch it in there.
No way.
Yeah.
Nigga, they'll catch it in there.
I'm not going nowhere where y'all think I would go.
I'm going to go somewhere where the last thing on they mind would be he over there in Iceland. Antarctica.
You bugger. He'll never be in Africa.
Let's check. Let's check over there.
I got peoples over there. Yo, 2025, I'm going to Africa too.
Are you where? What part of Africa? We're gonna first. Buy Oh, I'm playing on it.
Yeah, buy something. I'm definitely copying with it.
Seriously. I ain't even sure.
Me too. Me too.
My man. Yo.
Maybe 2000. Best pussy of it.
I'm gonna. The Ghana-esque one.
You're gonna be losing your mind over there. As soon as I land.
Yo, that's your bag. As soon as I land.
That is your bag. I'm joking.
I'm misrepresenting myself for content purposes. Wink, wink.
No, but buy something. It's natural.
My man told me to buy some shit in like 06. They had lots for $3,500 in 06.
In the bougie part. Long gone to those days.
So definitely pick up something. Oh, you mean like property, you're saying? Yeah.
Land at the very... Yeah, why you ain't just say property? Yeah, why I ain't...
Buy something. I thought he meant like...
Yo, look what this nigga's brain went. I thought he meant a key chain.
What did you think I was talking about? Sunglasses. Yeah.
I knew what you was talking about, but it's just like... The listeners don't know what you're talking about.
What do you think I was talking about? I heard what you said about. You just said buy something.
You thought I saw my box? No. Oh, thank you.
Yo, you are a... Buy what, though? I hope all the strippers rented out that DR property that they purchased all of years ago.
Oh, that was the story. I bought a property in DR.
Girl. Give me this pussy and shut up, girl.
I ain't them. I ain't them, yo.
This nigga's an idiot, yo. Who is watching this episode that I don't know about? What? What are you talking about? Why? Mel sitting up being fruity tooty? What's up? Nothing.
I'm chilling. You ain't get your lean on today? What you doing today? I am chilling.
I am chilling. Nobody's watching that I know anything about.
I swear. I'm just chilling.
You got a date? I do not have a date tonight. We ain't had a date in a while.
When last time you got a date? Since we had some people. No, not too long ago.
Like a week and a half. You look too good to keep striking out out there.
I'm not striking out. You are striking out.
Don't talk to her. You look too fire to keep striking out.
You got to find your match. Tag me in, man.
I'll hold you down right now. All right, cool.
Listen, nigga came in, cleaned it up, cleaned her up, and now she got that act right. So she want to be able to not misrepresent herself in front of her shorty.
She was dirty before, you saying? No, but when I mean cleaned her up, it's like, you know, she was like, now nigga checking her. Like, she checking shit.
Watch how she's staring outside. Nigga tell her, yo, I saw that.
I saw that pic. She got a nigga that's checking shit.
Oh, wait. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. I am such a fan of love that that made me feel warm and good inside.
That's so great when you're in the beginning stages of things and you have to establish your territorial nature even though you don't have a right to. Hey, girl, I seen you put that picture.
You better tell him stop playing with me. But she from the old school.
She don't stand there. You better stop playing with me like that.
I'll fuck them niggas up. So you agree with that? I mean, he's younger.
So, you know, I just kind of let him get it off. Everybody's younger.
Shut the fuck up. I thought it was like your body, your choice.
I mean, it is. So I let him get it off.
But, you know. I thought it was your body, your choice.
Your femininity and your integrity and all of those other things that men and their insecurities and their lack of emotional intelligence that would prevail. You just discarded all that.
Niggas with big dicks get it off, nigga. Okay, well, no.
He's it, of course. He's exaggerating.
It was not about... That nigga dick ain't big?
No, that's not what he's exaggerating about.
He's exaggerating about the fact that it was pictures.
Pictures weren't a problem.
Yo, Mel, you stood...
Mel, that's how I caught on.
Mm-hmm.
I thought it was something else, but my radar was wrong.
Nigga, you said, I understand.
You started standing different.
You don't stand close to niggas.
You standing forward, nigga, like a 3D pic.
You standing up like a holographic.
That nigga checked you.
I think. My radar was wrong.
You started standing different. You don't stand close to niggas.
You standing forward, nigga, like a 3D pic. You standing up like a holographic.
That nigga checked you. I'm giving the picture dimension.
Man, that nigga checked you. Yo, baby, yo, listen.
I don't want to see that. And I get it.
I'm down with you. I'm down with the cleanup.
I'm down with act proper. He has had a lot of questions about narratives.
Yeah, I know, nigga. Pause giving.
Don't come up here. Don Don't come up here, Paz Given.
I'm still debating. Don't come up here, all that shit.
I'm on his ass. I'm on that nigga in Paz Given.
He think that it's just an act to bother male fuckers. I'm on his ass.
I'm on his ass. Queens flip.
I saw you. I know who you are.
I'm on your fucking melon top. And why I'm debating I have to I don't want a nigga think I'm just picking off hell
everybody get it
alright you better let them bitches
you better let them bitches know
you better let them know
that it's my time now
tell them all them bitches you was entertaining before
tell them now there's not even the time for that
the beginning stage is great
that is the beginning stage
of toxicity too too. Oh, shit.
Because why is that your way? Why is that your early, too? Yeah, yeah. That is true.
Don't do that, Joe. That is true.
You don't matter if we go home and think about some shit. By the way.
Yo, that jealousy and insecurity show a face early. Ooh.
Ooh, I'm gone. Insidious.
Because all it does is grow. The longer y'all together, the more entitled you will get.
Nigga, I'm jealous and insecure. Fuck it, nigga.
I told my... I mean, I told family that shit, nigga.
I'm jealous and insecure, nigga. Hell, fuck, you gotta fix that.
Yeah, you told all the family? I told my family members that shit, nigga. I don't know what to call.
But I say all of them. I mean family members.
I know. I'm with you, my nigga.
You're hot. Yes, yes, yes.
No, I'm just saying I told them when they see me around my family and I'm acting a certain way, I'm jealous and insecure. No doubt.
No doubt. Acting way? Which way? I'm with you, killer.
I think it's funny. All right, if we don't have anything else, which I don't think we do, but I'm just going to check anyway.
Part of the show. All right, we have a part of the show from Malachi6Music.
And boy, is he cursing me out. Damn, Joe, shaking my head, LOL.
I can't believe you blocked me. I am the guy that has been tagging you in those remixes all the way from Decatur, Georgia, Zone 6, Future went to my high school, Columbia.
For someone like you who claims to love music and is for the culture, and for your fans who happen to be talented and also supports you and your membership fees to even get this response to you all the way from Decatur, Georgia, East Atlanta, Zone 6, would at least appreciate the work of musical art from your fans on social media who tag you and supports everything else that you do, even mentioning that I could see you in standup comedy. I remember you said that.
No, you don't owe me anything and you can block whomever you want. However, I expected your frequency and your energy to your fans who try and get your attention would be a little more graceful and grateful.
God frequency and appreciation and gratitude for your fans even watching your podcast
and for even wanting to write to you because honestly, Joe, I don't do shit like this,
writing letters or submitting questions to celebrities.
And this will probably be my last.
It's all love, though.
I'm not mad and I'm still a fan.
Just disappointed. That was to you.
Malachi and anyone else that needs to hear this, I love and respect and appreciate your fanfare. That does not mean that you can spam my account 90 times on Instagram with whatever slap you just made.
If you do that, I'm blocking you so I never have to see it again. I'm looking at it.
Yeah. Sorry.
That don't mean I don't want you to win out there. But sending me 90 clips of your song when I think the baddie that I just followed might be hitting me and it's you.
I just sent something to something nice.
I get 90 replies
real quick and it's you
with a song blocking you.
You're blocked, buddy. Good luck with everything.
Good luck.
Sleepers!
Sleepers!
I'm going with
I am going
with this joint off that Babyface project that he put out.
This is Babyface and Money Long.
And this record is called The Recipe. You know Lil' Ju made it Walked on the door, Louis on the floor As soon as I get home First thing you asked me, why you been going through my phone? I was like, what? You was like, what? I was like, boy, I ain't got time.
Have you lost your mind? Are you trying to make me lose mine? Focused on my paper every day. All you do is argue and complain.
When you gonna quit playing in my face? Just leave me alone, I need some space. Oh, slow does I get home? Light me some candles, turn the lights down low Soon as I get home Just take a sip and take it nice and slow Soon as I get home You can't keep pressing me and think you'll get the best of me Soon as I get home Baby, quit stressing me I'm giving you the recipe Soon as I get home, baby, quit stressing me I'm giving you the recipe Soon as I get home, soon as I get home Soon as I get home, soon as I get home The recipe, yeah Soon as I get home, soon as I get home Need you to love me, trust me Think it's so important that we communicate Cause end of the day, I need you supportive Can you respect me? Will you protect me? It's only gonna happen if you let me So let me just tell you what's been in my head So many things I should've but I never said You got me crying in this empty bed I really wish that we were making love Oh, so does it
I get high
I'll write some candles through the lights down low
So does it
I get home
Just take a sip
Take it nice and slow
So does it
I get home
You can keep pressing me
And think you'll get the best of me So does it I get home Baby, quit pressing me Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the best of me No, no, no I get home Baby, quit pressing me I ain't giving you the recipe Soon as I can hold it I said I'm giving you the recipe Soon as I get home Soon as I can hold it Yeah, yeah, yeah Soon as I can down I get the hardest Light me some candles, turn the lights down low Slow down, I get home Just take a sip and take it nice and slow Slow down, I get home You can keep pressing me and think you'll get the best of me Slow I get home. Yeah.
I get home. Baby, quit pressing me.
I'm giving you the recipe. So nice.
I get home. Brand new old music or kind of old.
That was Babyface featuring Money Long. That record is called The Recipe.
Available in your phone and on DSPs right now. That's that baby face project where he worked with all of the girls.
Absolutely smoked that.
Bold to do the Soon As I Get Home flip, but money long is money long.
Sounds good.
Sounds great.
Shout out to both of them.
Sounds great.
I'm going in front of the show.
This is Reason Whatever.
This is his first song out as an indie, and I fuck with it. Hey Young enough to keep doin' all of this stupid shit, whatever Ayy Yeah It's like a nigga got a right to be killed Nigga want ice his grill Nigga want life with meals Nigga want life so ill, goddamn Niggas only try and get paid Niggas only try and get paid Hope he hit his dreams one day Lil nigga whole life change Look a nigga wanna speak to masses Hope to hit a chance while he reach for glasses Swear I had enough but I keep surpassin' Goals that I set cause I speak with passion Niggas burn bridges every day Hit my line and they wanna explain I don't speak semantics Swear this shit would at least imagine I had hoop dreams and them dreams to cancel Fuckin' move on like U-Hars, nigga too strong Nigga went from coupons, puttin' juice on On the green like croutons Do some niggas in the field like foosball They was twisted with sticks, tried to stay out the way But my niggas was lit Swear I was a kid, only images live Was a hoop nigga, rap nigga, trap nigga, shit Ain't much change, did I'm all still the same, lil' nigga? Swear it be a pain, lil' nigga So we got the same name, lil' nigga Like Trayvon or Brianna, I lay down at night in deep sweats as I ponder, praying that's never my son or my daughter, know I was grown from the dirt of my fathers, know we ain't perfect, we striving regardless, no we ain't perfect, we striving regardless, yeah Nigga old enough to know better, be young enough to keep doing all of this stupid shit or whatever, man N***a old enough to know better Young enough to keep doing all of this stupid shit, but whatever, man Nigga old enough to know better They're young enough to keep believing all of this stupid shit, they tell us, man No matter how rugged the road is, tread through the deepest of waters, I'm Moses The picture ain't perfect, but chosen, God knew he painted the toughest of soldiers The blood on the bristles I'm using, I got it from victims of shooters Had that cryptic or two, they ruthless Bullets traveled through air like acoustics Was a badass lil nigga but grew to be rich, feel like boo shit Took some hard lessons but used em I learned to get through your problems, it's like cleaning blood, just find your solutions All of this talk about Diddy ironic, I also put faith in the music We look up and get by those power then quickly surprised when they turn into music Shit, young niggas Old enough shit, I guess that we not How you tell me that we ain't got stake in the hood When I watch my whole family pay bills on them blocks Like I watch some of my loved ones get killed on them blocks Seen mothers and fathers lose kids on them blocks Blood streaming for nights and feel casanite Like looking for parking, we been through a lot Shit, all of these bodies has fallen and niggas won't rap about drops Just met with a realtor killing it, we sat and rapped about plots Do your whole role out in hoods to head to the hills and the safest of homes I see the path that you walk and just praying one day that y'all take better roads My patience is gold, my future ain't stopping, I shake till it goes Not one fable told, no hammers or twos, I made it from lows Look, I'm still young and stupid, but older and wiser I'm plottin' and dreamin', I fought that depression I'm boxin' and bleedin', got rid of them ghosts Feel like Tommy Egan is sold I can't quit, it's too much old for me Rest in peace, Dhanisha Feel a nigga lost with this ego on me I'll just soar with all this rope on me Holdin' it up, I'll put it on for me Congrats, Reason, front of the show.
That's all.
Congrats, Reason, on your new joints.
I'm going to...
Gentleman's name is Tails, in the pain is all it takes
Just to make it up to you, then girl, I'm on it
Said I've been so away, you've been stressed for days
Babe, I get it, not gon' lie, I feel it
You've been up to something, falling
Nowhere else I'd rather be, yeah
I wanna take my free time Spending with you I gotta make time For just me and you Me and you Girl, don't take it personal You should know I don't want nobody else Girl, don't taking parts of me You should know I'm on your toes What do you want, my baby? You roll my blunt, pour us a cup and we get nice and wavy You wanna fuck, I give you love, that's every night and daily You tryna write a story while I'm just here turning pages Slowly re-hold You've been up to something Falling Nowhere else I'd rather be I wanna take my free time Sp spend it with you. I got a main time for just me and you, me and you.
Girl, don't take it personal. You should know.
I don't have nobody else. Girl, it.
Fuck with it.
Big Mel, what you got?
Mine is called Marking My Time by...
Help me with this Elmian-y.
We figured this out once, but I've forgotten.
Elmian?
Elmian?
Imani.
It's not, but okay.
And bad, bad, not good. Uh, yes.
Mm-hmm. Send me the prayer I'm missing Ooh! Because I need the sign.
And even though I'm listening. It's gonna take a while.
Wanna set my soul on fire. Get me at this I'm tired Wanna set my soul on fire Get me at this hole I'm tired Wanna set my soul on fire Free me from this world I've found so far Wanna set my soul on fire Free me from this world I've so frail I wanna set my soul on fire Get me at this home, too tired to stay I wanna set my, wanna set my, wanna set my Oh, I, oh, I've been and thrivin' Bluntin' our legs on my skin That is our reality
Holding my breath up and diving
Old bang on my heart
That is our reality Now every line I question Am I afraid to be Someone will learn a myself Amongst the evergreen Want to set my soul on fire Dreaming from this world I found so fair Want to set my soul on fire Free me from this world I found so frail Wanna set my soul on fire Get me and these holds up tight just there Wanna set my, wanna set my, wanna set my Oh, I, oh, I've been out thrive Blood knives on my side That is all reality Hold my breath up and I Obey go my life That is all reality Cause I, I've lied, I've tried I've loved, I've lived, I've died I will survive I, I've lied, I've tried I've loved, I've lived, I've died, I've weaved Survival, baby Marking my time on walls Fulfilling my own scapegoats Marking my time on walls My old Oh That is Elmeen. This is how we pronounce it.
Dang. Send me the prayer I'm missing again your streak of fire sleepers this year.
You're on a remarkable run, man. You have
come a long way since you
first started this job and your
understanding of what a sleeper was back then.
And Mel just won't let you
breathe, man. And you shooting
100% from the field, Mel, of
listening to a sleeper right before the sleeper
segment and it being fire.
That is so not what
I'm doing. I already have
that selected. It's been two
years. I already have that selected.
I have a whole
Thank you. and it being fire.
That is so not what I'm doing. I already had that selected.
It's been two years.
I already had that selected.
I have a whole sleeper section.
I know.
Shut up.
I know you do.
I got some theories about it.
No, I had that picked out.
I was just listening to other stuff.
I'm done. I don't have nothing to say.
Yo, law-abiding citizens out there, man. It's your time to shine.
I ain't gonna let the kids keep this in 40s. You know what fun in my 40s look like? I'm glued to the niggas cleaning the carpet on Instagram.
When they pull the rug out and it's just all black and dirty and nasty, I'm like, ooh, he'll never get this one. Them niggas put that little foam on there.
It's a power wash. Power wash niggas.
They get the rust off the old shit? The power wash niggas that be doing the concrete? Yo, the concrete be my concrete. Oh, son.
They do the edges all nice and shit. We bummed.
Ain't it fun though? But ain't it fun to be that bummy? I tried the power wash two times and shot the shit out myself with that one. Hey, they didn't lie about the power part in power wash.
Yeah, that's an idiot, yo. Yeah, that's fun.
Carpet dude the other day, the Halloween edition, pulled out a pumpkin carpet. But boy, it was filthy.
I was like, you'll never be able to restore this. And little did you know.
Or when they take the whole car apart, that's ill too. He got that shit to bright orange, boy.
They take the whole inside of the car apart and deep clean that shit? I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that.
Nigga take the seats out? Yeah. I've seen a guy.
It's an old-ass car, though, like a 99 Camry. Yeah, it's all, yeah.
I've seen a guy that just is destroying cars to show how destroyable cars are. That one I don't really understand all the way yet.
That's a little uncomfortable. And while I'm on the Halloween edition of things, because I went and got my manicure, and Alice and them be having the Food Network showing every time for 20 years now.
So I'm forced to watch them white people that's on the Food Network take a glizzy and make it into a fingernail that's bleeding and put it into a hot dog bun. I don't want that.
I don't want it. It's right up your alley or no? No.
I think that these people are morons and fools. I like the baking shows when I'm getting my nails done.
That's very cat lady a show. But usually the baking shows, they have to create some kind of, I don't know, some shit that don't look like a fucking cake or anything like that.
That is true. Yeah.
It'll be like a race car. A pocketbook or some wild shit.
Yeah. Well, that was the little Halloween episode on the Food Network.
Spooky ideas, right? Oh, yeah. So, they pulled some shit out the fridge of a dead face in, like, a pickle jar.
It was like, ooh. And they jumped.
Then it was a hand coming from the baker's cake. It was like, yo, dog, what are y'all doing? And the one black girl they got on there with them white people, I'm looking in her eyes with my black people intuition, and I know what she's thinking, but she can't say it.
She can't say it. I'm getting a check.
She's just got to do her job and watch the white people just do whatever they want. Like Flip.
Look at Flip out there on the phone. I wish y'all could have heard him on the phone, too, what he was doing out there.
I can't say what he was doing. I hope he caught Flip awkwardly, looked back, and scrambled.
Fat niggas don't have the cool lean back on the phone.
Like, fat niggas just got to be funny at all times.
I'm not talking about you.
I'm talking about niggas that's fat. Why didn't I?
Why didn't I?
Why didn't I tell you a in? You see? To work. You were just with me.
We were just together. I came back once my sleeper break was done.
Got it. You stayed for the extra.
I'm used to employees like you from Sears. My Sears days.
Milk in the break. You supposed to get a 45-minute break?
Y'all want to go to the food court in Newport
and sit there?
Extra hour and change?
You know what's sad about you?
You got so much shit going on,
you going to diss your man.
And I heard what you were saying out there.
That's the troubling part about it.
What about it?
Nothing.
It'll stay between us.
I'm going to hold it down.
Nah, you can't use that shit.
I got you too. I heard you out there.
Baby. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I.
What you going to say? Still? Yeah. Because if I didn't feel like I won off the last one minutes coming back I'm doing some ill reverse psychology shit much it just feel like you don't even like it and the timing could not be that timing could not be better love me but you don't like me that's that I'm getting deep with the mind game.
You ain't hear Mal, though. You got to beat these people that's in your phone 24-7.
Mal took a shot. What'd she say? I didn't hear what she said.
She took a lot of shots at you and you don't be able to. No, I don't.
I just said the timing couldn't be better. I didn't get that.
You're trying to be cheap. The birthday.
The birthday. She went with that car, too.
We're in Scorpio season. The birthday season.
She still went the range? I wouldn't know. How would I know she still went to range? Did the car change? I don't know.
If you ask again, then you on the hook. Once I heard her say I went to range, well, shit.
It ain't nice, right? It is nice. They're just nice.
They're a nice little vehicle. I didn't ask again.
No, I'm going to fuck a whole head up and buy some stock in a company. Worth the range.
Yeah. I'm going to force you to grow up.
Yo, what if somebody hand you some stock and you just patooing, just rip it up? Doing this for us. That's how it was when my grandma died.
Rest in peace to my grandma. I didn't understand that Campbell stock that she gave me.
I had $5,000. I went straight to the stock office.
What's this worth? Hey, what's this? Sam, honey, let me get it. You take this.
You take this Campbell shit. Hey, give me that hard cash.
Thanks, Granny. Yeah.
That was Apple. That was Apple.
Campbell's Soup. Yeah, Campbell's Soup.
The company is stock. I know what, I understand what you're saying.
Campbell's Soup for our grandparents. God, it was Apple.
I got it. Not for me.
Don't die and leave it to me.
They still got this shit over there.
Not Cherry Hill, but what's the shit in Jersey?
I went to
whatever little wealth management building that was
on 48th Street over there by all that
overpass shit. I didn't know where I was going.
What floor can I trade this?
Wait, yo.
I want to give y'all these papers
for some papers.
They said, sit right here, Mr. Button.
We'll be right out with your cash. What? If you would have kept it, what would happen? Who knows? I don't know.
People still eating Campbell's? Sure. Well, they might own some other shit.
I was not. I the last thing on your mind was some soup damn I think my grandma died in 2011 yeah I'm 29 or something fuck that soup but rest in peace rest in peace I'm looking it up you was up too you had your affairs nigga traded in a camel soup style he was was a cold.
That grandma left. You a cold boy.
Yeah, Shanae, you ain't getting that rage. I got your back.
He's doing that. Get Shanae the rage.
What's her birthday, Joe? I don't know. You have 5,000 of them? You don't know what her birthday is.
I don't know what her birthday is. How the fuck would I know when her birthday is? I hate Scorpios.
Honestly. Scorpios need to...
Oh, my God. They could just go to, like...
They could be the first ones to Mars. The Scorpios should take...
What do they call that shit? The submersor? What's that shit? Oh, Joe, that's... Enough, enough.
Enough, nigga. I do.
I'm just watching him because he's been with... Unnecessary hate.
Yes, exactly. I don't fuck with Scorpio.
We might be his favorite people. Madly in love with a Scorpio.
We might be his favorite people. We are.
Pause for including yourself in my Scorpio talk. Nigga, I ain't talking to no dude Scorpio.
Oh, you take Scorpio with me? I ain't talking to dudes. I ain't talking to no dudes.
How do I even know that you was a Scorpio? Nigga, you a dude. I'm talking about the bitches.
I'm talking about this one and the rest of them. We're amazing.
I hate y'all. What? You're supposed to say yes.
The guys. Y'all just have like...
No. I'm kidding.
Just mesmerizing sex. That's it.
That's what they're known for. Tyrese going to hockey.
I'm at a scorpion. Yeah, and he had to take a pause.
He didn't do that with any other sign. What's he saying? I don't know what her birthday is.
I don't know when my girl's birthday is. You know what her birthday is I don't know when my girl's birthday is You know what her birthday is And I'm trying to book a little work trip during that shit I'm trying to be out of town The tour right? Yeah something important The tour I got three weeks Two weeks for something big to pop up And let me tell you She keep on her story Posting all the girls that get like a whole bunch of gifts.
What's that little baby girl that got all the bags
the other day, had her name in the lights
and turks. Every girl that got
900 gifts, she keep
posting it in the story. I muted that shit.
I muted
the shit out of that story.
You setting yourself up for a massive
failure.
You about to be so, girl, you about to be so embarrassed on your birthday. Joe, that's not, Joe, stop.
No, I'm going to do something because I am a great gift giver. I don't know what it is, though.
It ain't going to be a range, I'll tell you that much. It's going to be a range of things.
That just rover around your heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah sure oh shit I love you baby who's best by you don't know I'm a man hopefully you've enjoyed this episode as much as we enjoy delivering it to you.
Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time, I bid you adieu. Farewell.
Adios. Cerebro.
Dirty. Hasta la vista.
Au revoir. So long, goodbye.
Or a simple head nod to suffice. Ego.
Ego. When the rays light down, I lay down.
I out tonight. What y'all doing this weekend? What y'all doing this weekend? What's up? What y'all doing this weekend, man? What's up? What's up? Don't smize at me, nigga.
What's going on? I wanted to go to Zion and them games. Oh, yeah, you did mention that.
Why you can't go to the game? Oh, go ahead. He already went to one game this week.
She said no. He used his game pass.
Holy shit. Wait.
Yo, why you ain't telling us that an hour one? You're an idiot, son.
You can't go to two games.
Oh, shit.
That's the fight I'm having in my house because of your stupid ass.
Me?
Yes.
What I got to do with you?
I'm dying because we came in here
and talked about being in a relationship
and going out three nights in a row.
Oh, shit.
And what that means.
And you came in here and lied, and my girl believed it. I don't think any man in a relationship should be outside.
And when you start lying, I start lying too. I was like, yeah, man, that is foul.
I think any man in a relationship knows he shouldn't be out three nights in a row. Why did I say that to the relationship police? Well, I have an entire record here of when you went out 24th, 25th, and 26th back in 2022.
I said, that can't be true, your honor. I mean, girlfriend.
Your honor, girlfriend. Your honor, girl.
Because I don't go out Sundays. I don't go out Mondays.
And I don't go out Thursdays. And it's eight but seven days in a week.
So how could that be? You're on a girlfriend. And she said, she tried to move to GoPost.
Well, what do you think about if you go out Tuesday and Wednesday and then skip Thursday and then it's Friday and Saturday? I said, ah! It's not three nights in a row. It's not three nights in a row.
Back that. Fuck out of here.
Skip. You said skip.
Fuck out of here with that. Yeah, buddy.
Yo, you went to a game. You used your game pass already.
He did. And was on TV showing your teeth looking good, trying to bag Philly bitches.
Your girl was like, enough. Come on.
Come back home. Come on.
They're going from Philly to Houston? Sheesh. They had them.
There was some things in there. The Zaire game is here, right? Mm-mm.
Where? Houston. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're talking crazy today, nigga. What? You thought you would fly to Houston and go to a Zaire game after you was in Philly with Mark Lamont Hill courtside on television showing teeth? You thought you could?
Honestly, I'm dead ass.
I ain't trying to get you in trouble.
You thought you could?
I ain't trying to get you in trouble.
Did you think that you could do two games in one week?
I contemplated it, yeah.
How did she set you straight?
Just got something to do over the weekend.
Just got to tell you what they want.
They just tell you, yo, we doing such and such.
At 11.30 on, you'd be like, oh, okay.
Okay. Yep.
You lost., oh, okay. Okay.
Yep.
You lost.
Damn.
So you're not going to the game?
Nah.
And I don't like the rest of their schedule.
Now you're looking for shit.
No, no, no.
Don't look for shit after, like, about the game.
No, no, no.
I spoke to Zaire.
The only game that I really want to go to is the Houston game.
Yeah.
The rest of their games is whack. Like, I I think Zion and them fuck around finished 12 and 4 optimistic I mean 13 and 4 I don't see it for them but the rest of their games is definitely you got tickets already nah why didn't you just tell it not this weekend whatever you got planned we'll do next weekend nah you good good luck with good Good luck with that You got that? Let me try to think of something else you could have told her Good luck with that Why didn't you tell her that this was a real important game to be at? Why didn't you tell her to come with you? Yeah, there you go Why didn't you tell her to come with you? Zaya, you could have got your ass ticket But then we got to make baby accommodations And then you got to be with your girl When the bitches is around I don't know why you want to be with a girl when the bitches is around.
Houston. Houston too.
Houston girls. No, she the nanny.
You bring your girl to Houston. You go to the game.
You stay right there. And she stay there with the baby.
Oh, man. That's crazy.
No, I'm listening to you, Kat, Daddy. You got to book two days.
The Colts still got to play the Vikings, the Bills, the Lions. Who the fuck want to go there? I don't see it for the Colts.
Who want to go there? Not that, anyway. That's good games.
No, that Indianapolis and Texas game, that's where the bitches are going to be at. Your girl did the right thing.
Your girl did the right thing. He used the wrong pass.
He tried to get the shit off, too, didn't he?
You mentioned the football game early.
Y'all plan on going to this one.
Then you said, but the Lamar shit was the last minute shit.
You know what I'm saying?
We wasn't doing nothing.
I already had this plan.
It didn't work.
These girlfriends and wives are insidious. Would you be a personal one for the football game? No, nigga.
No. I went to Girls Love Karaoke.
This nigga popped up the next morning, first flight. You lie.
No, I'm not lying. You won't be humming no tunes around here, nigga.
And I'm just making it look a certain way. We planned for her to be here, but I mean, coincidence.
So she's around?
Yeah, I think she's here for the next one, too.
But it's fine.
Look at that.
Look at God.
Yeah, you know.
Blessings.
God loves karaoke.
Ignorance.
God loves karaoke. Hey, help me.
It's nice Oh All the choice Do it with it Have my girl seen that story Wait what My nigga don't be Don't be able to act Let me get up there Damn son You all I ain't gonna say nothing See I Look if it was me You would be going I'm podding right now I'm only podding I'm podding And for the next one Yes you gonna be here for her birthday You got no choice Shit I'll be around you Nigga cut the music back on You my man I'm trying to get out of. Aren't you talking about some big birthday dinner with her friends and then coming up here to see me? All right.
Stupid. Stupid question.
You got to pay for it. Yes, you.
Yes, it's you. the answer.
You got to say that to you if my brain was. Is that true? The answer is true.
No, you don't, but you're going to have to. I'm asking.
Of course. You got to fly out for it.
No, I don't. No, they don't want you there.
I don't think I have to. Not for girls.
They don't want you there. Nah, J-Won, why you put that in the air? I don't think I have to be.
She's got about a birthday outfit, though. But she's going to say, hey, we're going to Mark's Steakhouse at 7 p.m.
To give you a little hint.
Keep going.
He has to buy that.
Keep going.
The cake.
Keep going.
The dinner.
Oh, keep going.
The flight.
No flight.
They home.
Go ahead.
Oh, shit.
You got to feed all 14 of them.
No, they got to pay for themselves.
Oh, wow.
They got a what? Nigga, you want to Yeah, breathe hard, nigga. You making all this money off nigga's backs, nigga.
Breathe hard, nigga. You laughed at me at the door.
T-shirts, yeah. Good, nigga.
Shout out to big ass, nigga. She gonna find new girl.
Yeah. She gonna find that new friend.
One fat one.
I love this nigga, son.
Because his mom be going everywhere, son.
He'd be like, oh, wait.
And if he let it slide, he'd be like, wait, what?
He called back like that.
Wait, what you trying to get?
Man, niggas don't have no rights.
And nothing.
A birthday dinner.
What does that look like? What's the restaurant? Did you choose the restaurant for her? No. If you pay for it.
You can't, Mel? What? He got no. You can't choose the restaurant.
There's no authoritative right. Nigga.
On your girl's birthday, you want somebody to choose authority? We financial abusers and manipulators. Not me.
You can give a budget. You can give a budget.
Who could give a budget? He can. He can't give a budget.
I'm only giving y'all niggas $1,500. What's the budget look like? $1,500.
Nothing. You ain't going to sell it.
Yo, look, I know you're still thirsty, but you can't get no more wine. Or you could call ahead to the restaurant to create like a prefix kind of situation where it's like all, everything's just included.
So what you do when they start ordering shit that's not... Nigga, they got a payday on the hook.
You let them know. Don't order anything you order that's off the menu.
I look like a prefix menu. They're gonna say, damn this nigga.
No, not a prefix, but you can create a menu. You had a menu.
It was extensive. It was extensive.
They tried that prefix menu shit with me. I scoffed at them.
I turned my nose at them. No, my friends should be able to choose between the Branzino and a steak.
The birthday. It shouldn't just be, hey, you get a steak and appetizer and some soup and some crackers and you go home.
I hate a bad prefix menu. It's bad.
Add some shit that you know niggas want to eat that they took off the good menu. Come on, don't do that.
Yours was fantastic. You got it, bitch.
That's why he asked you about your shit. He going through it.
Look at our son, look. No, I ain't going to do it.
I'm chilling. Buy that shit, nigga.
Pay for the dinner. Then after her birthday, I gotta have gonna go I'm chillin' Buy that shit, nigga Pay for the dinner Then after her birthday I gotta have the Co-parent Birthday Lex party Oh, yes The fight Lex And then her twin's birthday Is in December And then Christmas Ooh And then New Year's Eve And then New Year's And then Valentine's Day Wait And then Valentine's Day People get get gifts for New Year's? No.
No. But you got to do something.
No, but plans.
What the fuck you doing?
Y'all can't wait till you really get some good money.
Not to say that you don't want it now.
No, look.
I want to hear all this macho shit come out.
Bro, what do you got to do for New Year's?
Plan something.
Dinner, drinks.
Trip. Party, trip.
Something.
If this is what marriage sounds like, that shit sucks. It's bad.
This is what loving your girl sounds like. No, this sounds like being extorted.
Loving your girl. Well, it is being extorted.
Not worth it. Because you're paying whatever you're paying your girl or the dinner or whatever, plus 50% of what you make just because of your tax situation.
But you don't want to be that guy to explain to your girl what taxes mean for $1 and how it's really 50 cents.
Good luck to you. So you're spending $1.50 for every 50.
But love. Mic check.
When the rain is doubling down. We going, man.
Y'all hold it down. Everybody enjoy their weekend.
Stay blessed. Stay safe.
Y'all stay here for New Year's?
They might try to go somewhere.
Gotta get on it now.
After this chorus, we go.
Y'all hold it down out there.
Wow! out there. Wow.
For a little while.
Use your back, use your back.
I was like this, I wish the rain would stop coming down.
Coming down to mud.
What happened to the day?
Well, I won't carry away.
All the time to break. Shout to the Patron.
Shout out to the subgroups out there.
We'll be back same time, same place next week.
Oops.
Wait a minute. That's all I got for y'all out there, man.
I'm going to fucking stay black and have a blast. Have a good weekend, man.
The rain was so cold and cold You know the vibes. No, Joe Biden.
JVP, JVP, where would you be without the JVP?