Episode 819 | "Where’s Wallo When You Need Him?"

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Speaker 1 Wait, are we recording? We are.

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Speaker 1 Oh, shit. That payroll could look beautiful now.

Speaker 1 Hey, boy.

Speaker 1 It don't take a bunch of niggas to get it done. I'm talking shit.
I'm talking shit. I'm talking shit.
I'm talking shit.

Speaker 1 I feel like there's a mark in this Evil Mark. Oh, for sure.
Absolutely. I've seen the Evil Mark side.
I like it. I like that side.

Speaker 1 I feel like this whole show has been introducing Evil Mark to the world, honestly. And he's loving that shit.
That nigga's going to flat earth you on that motherfucking page.

Speaker 1 Even flat earth niggas is still me. Yo.

Speaker 1 All of them. Yo, that's why you better than me.
That nigga was like, yo, you sound like a fucking idiot. I was like, screw?

Speaker 1 It kept saying more shit. I'm like, when Mark going to check?

Speaker 1 Yo, you gonna have a fucking problem. What you was gonna do? Beat the nigga up through the keyboard? Same shit you was gonna do when you was to meet that nigga in the park.

Speaker 1 This dude jumped on my YouTube. Did you see that shit? This dude jumped on my YouTube.
Yeah, he's I want to beat this shit. I'm telling you.
What happened?

Speaker 1 For the people that didn't see it, what happened? So, Instant Ice got these Flat Earthers hyped up now, right? So everybody.

Speaker 1 I got them hyped up. Niggas drawing me diagrams in my DMs.
Yo, this is what would happen with the X-axis and the Y-axis. If it was.
Nigga, shut up. Right.

Speaker 1 So then one of them challenged me to a debate. I said, I'll debate you on anything except Flat Earth because I don't do that.
I said, you can get Neil deGrasse.

Speaker 1 I'm not a scientist, right? So I'm not doing that shit. Who I've reached out to to come up here.
Oh, that'd be great. That'd be great.

Speaker 1 Can it just be a one-on-one?

Speaker 1 Him versus

Speaker 1 the flat earth. Oh, that'd be dope.

Speaker 1 I love Neil deGrasse. Me too.
I absolutely got so much to do. Adore Neil deGrasse Tyson.
He's though. The way that he teaches brilliant.
Life, though. Yeah.
He just makes it so simple to understand.

Speaker 1 Extraordinarily complex shit. And he's not a condescending dick bag like that.
Yeah, that's what I was about to say. You know what I was about to say? I was about to say, yo, for him to be...

Speaker 1 You know, at one point they called him the smartest man on the planet. I didn't know that.
Yeah. So for him to have that in his

Speaker 1 planet.

Speaker 1 He said the smartest man on the planet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, explain it.

Speaker 1 But yo,

Speaker 1 he still ain't condescending. Like, you know what I mean? I'm glad I know when to mind my business and when not to.
Because whatever the shape the earth is, it don't matter. It's none of my business.

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas, it's a real thing. Dykeman gonna be Dykeman.
It don't matter. It don't fucking matter.

Speaker 1 That's how I feel. I agree.
No, I agree. But this nigga, and he's also a, this dude was a

Speaker 1 Joe Button podcast stand too. So he kept saying, you're gonna keep talking to Isha Ice like that.
You're not gonna keep talking to Isha Ice like that. Like, really?

Speaker 1 That's my nigga. That's my man.

Speaker 1 That's my nigga. I'm gonna talk to him more like that.

Speaker 1 Exactly. That's my man.
He was tweaking for y'all. And then he started talking like you.
He was like, I watched a show and I was like, who is this stupid ass nigga? Yeah, he was wild.

Speaker 1 That's how you say how you get hype, right? So he started.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I didn't know.

Speaker 1 In case you wondered.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 And so. He just kept saying like little jabs.
And then Mark wasn't checking the jab. Right.
So he just started throwing hooks.

Speaker 1 Right. He started throwing overcuts.
Uppercuts and shit. Yeah.
He started.

Speaker 1 Mark was like, hold up, hold up, hold up.

Speaker 1 Yo, you ain't going to keep talking to me like that. We're going to have a motherfucking problem.
I'm like, yo.

Speaker 1 Okay, Mark.

Speaker 1 I'm a very calm person. I only got two switches.
And once I hit the other switch, I go somewhere else. I don't want to ever do that.
Especially on characters.

Speaker 1 Well, calm is in how soon or not you get to the other switch.

Speaker 1 You know what? That's that's true. Yeah, it's just so.
If the guy that's in his room on Zoom, zooming you in his pajamas, even so steel,

Speaker 1 can say anything to get you kind of there, I would argue you might not be the calmest.

Speaker 1 That's a fair thing. There's nothing they can say on the internet to me to make me want to meet up and beat these people up.
That's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize you were so calm, actually, until I watched the Knicks games last night. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 I didn't know. You saw Calm? Calm.
He was calm. I didn't calm.
Joe was at perfect peace. Wait.
Calm hold a screen holder.

Speaker 1 I didn't see calm. You saw the pressure? Hey, yo, you got nails left? Oh.
Yeah, all right. I'm going to start.

Speaker 1 I've seen y'all ready, so I'm going to start. Because I want to start, y'all.
Yeah, let's get the proceeding. Let's go.
Let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 I think this nigga got no fingernails left.

Speaker 1 It was a close game. It was a close game.

Speaker 1 He don't know. Don't come too close.
He don't know.

Speaker 1 Oh my god.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Shout out to my brothers, Flip. I ain't shout out to our sister Mel.

Speaker 1 Always here with us in spirit.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking about y'all because

Speaker 1 I know y'all will want to get some of these jokes off with these guys. These guys sound nice and excited.

Speaker 1 But Jimon, I ain't never going to be able to get it. We got a real good time today, though, man.
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man.

Speaker 1 I'm the man, I'm the man.

Speaker 1 Light the fire that you need to hear. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Yes, you are there.

Speaker 1 Wake it up out there, wake it up out there.

Speaker 1 Big jersey, big jersey.

Speaker 1 Phyllis. Eagle.
America got a thing for the skins to sit. They love me.
Black chuck is back.

Speaker 1 I take spit over rainbow shit. I'm a band who got that silver duck pick on my Troy A handle.
The women in my life bring infusion shit. So like Nino and Mujack, I don't cancel that bitch.
Look at me.

Speaker 1 This is the life I chose. Niggas surround me so cold.
Man, my heart got froze. I build an empire on a load of knocks.
Don't know I'm the weatherman. I take that goal.
Even make that snow.

Speaker 1 Sit back, watch it, turn the door. Watch it go out the door.
O after O, you know, homie, I'm just triple beam, dreaming. Shout out to wherever you might be listening from.

Speaker 1 Or wait for the ladies, all woke for the ladies.

Speaker 1 You can't see. The penitentiary is definitely out the question for me.

Speaker 1 I want to find a thing to save my life.

Speaker 1 So I hustle, hustle. Feeling good, feeling quick.

Speaker 1 Fuck you, fuck you.

Speaker 1 Nigga, fuck you, fuck you.

Speaker 1 Nigga,

Speaker 1 so I hustle, hustle.

Speaker 1 What up, homie? Your watch saying hi, Shorty. We could be friends.
But whips and quit playing, bitch, get in. Shout out to all the subgroups out there.

Speaker 1 All the first and last time listeners. Shout out to all the hate groups out there.

Speaker 1 All the support groups. We need to love.
We need the love.

Speaker 1 Getting hot outside.

Speaker 1 Getting nice outside.

Speaker 1 We pulling the guards out. We pull the guards out.

Speaker 1 See, I'm alive, man. I thought you knew the little Ferrari out there yesterday.

Speaker 1 I know, but

Speaker 1 I'm talking to all the niggas that hit me when I pulled the Ferrari out like yo, I just copped the McLaren. Let's go.
Let's go, Ryan. We on that December.
Fuck they talking about

Speaker 1 my bitch, nigga. Shout out to the entrepreneurs out there.

Speaker 1 You can find me in the phone. That's it.
All the parents flitching, all the children.

Speaker 1 New York niggas copy niggas like it's all good.

Speaker 1 You see me sitting on dug, that's why you made chump.

Speaker 1 By special requests,

Speaker 1 I was playing some RB shit. I had some lucky day queued up.
You had a lucky day.

Speaker 1 Niggas wanted me dead on 34th Street, man.

Speaker 1 And niggas trying to take my life away. Guys, damn.

Speaker 1 Niggas wanted me to be a bitch.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. Watch how you talk when you talk about me.
Cause I'll come and take you.

Speaker 1 Mini, many, many, many, many.

Speaker 1 Wish that fun me.

Speaker 1 I don't cry no more.

Speaker 1 Don't look to the sky no more. Have mercy on me.

Speaker 1 Alright, we gotta change the name of that to Mini Co-Hosts.

Speaker 1 Many, many co-hosts.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Let me get these drops out the way right quick so we can have some fun, man.

Speaker 1 I don't want to delay the proceedings any longer than I already have. Mark stayed up all night with his pen and pad out.

Speaker 1 I didn't really.

Speaker 1 I didn't really bank on ish being hilarious, but.

Speaker 1 Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry I have to do that.
Sometimes it's variables that you didn't plan for that come up.

Speaker 1 And you got to work around it, man. What episode is this? 819.
Welcome to episode 819 of the Joe Button Podcast. I am still alive.
A few bitch-ass niggas. They got it.

Speaker 1 Take that. I'm here.
Made it to work.

Speaker 1 No bruises, nothing. Y'all would just love it.
Well, we don't know. I got shades on.
That is true. I got some shades on.
Welcome to episode 819, you said? Yeah. Of the Joe Button Podcast.

Speaker 1 I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, happy to be here, host here with a few really amazing people to my right. Just a few this time.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 literally just a few. Many men, right?

Speaker 1 Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building.
Dark Lamont Hill, Evil Mark. Okay, Evil Mark? Evil Mark is there.
You can tell. I can tell.

Speaker 1 Big Ishi's here. King Wawa himself.
Elmira's finest parks is in the building. Poe is here.
Corey is here. Ericsson is here.
Nobody else is here. That's it.
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Savon and Tana here with us by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here.

Speaker 1 How you feeling, Joe?

Speaker 1 I feel good. I almost almost wish you could call Fat Joe to give his version.
Oh, I have

Speaker 1 been great. I don't know if y'all hear Skinny Joe's version of the story.
I don't know about Skinny Joe.

Speaker 1 Fat Joe's assessment. Yo, this is just hilarious already.
I had such a great night last night. Last night was great.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Got out of there. Got out of there.

Speaker 1 I did watch towards the end of the game, and you was no longer there. And that's what I was like, I wonder how things really went.
Like, behind the scenes. You left in the middle of a nail biter?

Speaker 1 That was a close game, fam. It was.
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't say nail biter to me. Yeah.
Ever again.

Speaker 1 All right, where do y'all want to start? It seems like it's a lot to unpack.

Speaker 1 Do y'all want me to tell a story?

Speaker 1 Jump joke around.

Speaker 1 We'll add our camera.

Speaker 1 We're like, y'all, I hope Wallow coming here so he can work.

Speaker 1 Hello, you in New York.

Speaker 1 Well, y'all ain't hit me to see if I was all right.

Speaker 1 Y'all ain't hit me so we could ride. I gave up on that.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 You call this nigga like, yo, you good? He's going to be like, yo, what the fuck you think, nigga? Yo, yo, be calling me with this bullshit. Yeah, you got it, fam.
All right. Were you good?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I had tickets to game two of the Pistons versus the Knicks.

Speaker 1 The Knicks won game one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not in a beautiful fashion. Game one? Yeah.
It was close.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 we won.

Speaker 1 And my baby was coming. It's going to be date night.
It's going to be a beautiful time

Speaker 1 in motherfucking New York City.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 decisions to make, right? Sure. Phantom.

Speaker 1 Like, how are we doing this tonight? This is deflection or something. I don't know what it is.
It's one of them. No,

Speaker 1 I'm telling my story.

Speaker 1 What do y'all say? You want me to start at

Speaker 1 when you got close?

Speaker 1 No. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. That's fine.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 Anyway, so

Speaker 1 I planned on being early, right? Because it's the Knicks, it's playoffs. Building was going to be packed.
I imagine this to be nuts. So I had this mapped out for us to leave 30 minutes early.

Speaker 1 I'm going with my lady, so we end up running 45 minutes late.

Speaker 1 But we still end up walking in at the good times. We walk in and we get there and we walk in.
It's a good seat right next to Nick's bench. I'm excited.
The game started already. No.
Okay. Great seats.

Speaker 1 Yeah, great seats. Really, really.

Speaker 1 I don't want to talk to Mark. I don't want to hear from Mark and all that because you're a little too condescending.
And while I'm telling my story, I might not catch it.

Speaker 1 Great seats. Great seats.
But they were really good seats. Yeah, they were.
So we go and the game didn't start yet.

Speaker 1 We made it on time, in time, to get our sushi, the crab meat. The sushi hot dogs.

Speaker 1 We went and got some...

Speaker 1 No, no, I didn't do hot dogs. Okay.
I didn't do hot dogs. Over the weekend, I ate anything that wasn't tied down to the floor.
So I went to bed feeling really shitty and ashamed of myself.

Speaker 1 Looking forward to every number two I had to take. So I wasn't about to go in the garden and do my garden glizzy thing.
Okay. We were keeping it cute tonight.
Sushi, crab.

Speaker 1 Water and juice and we going to the seat.

Speaker 1 Let's do it. And it's packed in there.
Everybody is in there, boy. All of the white stars, I don't know who the fuck they are, was in there.

Speaker 1 It'd be a lot of money in the garden. What? A lot of money.
Duh. But it's different.

Speaker 1 Playoff time. Yes.

Speaker 1 Playoff time is crazy. Nigga, James,

Speaker 1 Dolan is in the front of the, behind one of the baskets. In like a polo with a blazer, a lollipop, like a fisherman's hat, legs crossed, family is here.
It's just like,

Speaker 1 oh, you playing just different. Looking like a J.
Crew ad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Then Spike is over there, and it's just some of the Jewish money is in here.
Vince Diller Jackson. Yeah, Mac and Wallace.
Yes, exactly. Gary Vee is behind me.

Speaker 1 So I'm already in phony mode, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Gary Vee.

Speaker 1 Long time no change.

Speaker 1 No, but I do love Gary Vee. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, but I do love him. But it's the, you know, exercise.
Hey, we do got to get somebody lunch, buddy. Come on.

Speaker 1 So we doing all of that. And we go and sit down, cool, sit there, and ain't nobody sitting in front of me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So then Fat Joe comes in

Speaker 1 with his daughter and they sit down. Shout out to Fat Joe.
Shout out to Fat Joe. Shout out to Joe.

Speaker 1 So me and my girl start talking about the Botega outfit that Fat Joe got on.

Speaker 1 But in my head,

Speaker 1 I say,

Speaker 1 now the last few times I've seen Fat Joe in the garden,

Speaker 1 he has been directly next to 50 Cent. Mm-mm.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 And I say, wouldn't that be funny?

Speaker 1 If those are the, there's only two seats left. They right in front of us.
Those are the only two empty ones. And sure enough, as God would have it, 50 comes in.

Speaker 1 And my man, my man, my man. I'm having breaking freeze right now.
Yeah, Eve. Shout out to Eve.

Speaker 1 So I dab Eve

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 50 just sit down, but he don't see me.

Speaker 1 But his man sees me, but he don't see me. And Fat Joe knows I'm here, but he don't see me.
All right, the game started. We're watching.

Speaker 1 Fuck it. We're watching the game now.

Speaker 1 Were you quiet?

Speaker 1 Not cheer too loud. Your stomach was talking.
I'm about to say his heart was pounding.

Speaker 1 You couldn't hear nothing.

Speaker 1 His RB sound like Sasha was right.

Speaker 1 Mark Albert turning around and shit. Like, how the fuck is that? The fuck is that? Did you change your game? You lied like some doves in the building?

Speaker 1 Now you have a decision to make in this moment, right? Because

Speaker 1 contrary to whatever the internet internet is saying

Speaker 1 I don't think there's a problem so when he sit down I want to grab him by the shoulder and say something to him didn't do that though only because my girl is here sure

Speaker 1 that is the only reason that you just look too pussy right

Speaker 1 doing that

Speaker 1 who are you watching clothes how

Speaker 1 what if that's your normal thing no,

Speaker 1 and people think y'all got beef, and then you like, hey, buddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nah, nah.

Speaker 1 You don't look pussy. Every camera in the world is on in here.

Speaker 1 Every celebrity is out. And you're right there.
Your girl is here. We buy Thibodeau.
You're not underneath the basket or something where you could be out the way a little bit.

Speaker 1 When he sees me, he'll see me. We'll kick it.
We'll chop it. Right.
But to do the extend shoulder, hey,

Speaker 1 I'm right behind you. It's the pussy shit I've heard of toxic masculinity.
That is the pussy. I don't care what you say.
That to me, what y'all think? Oh, I don't think that.

Speaker 1 If that's your norm, if that's your norm, that's something I normally do. You and 50 Cent ain't beefing.
Of course we're not beefing. Of course.

Speaker 1 So if that's your normal thing, like if it would have been none of this stuff happened,

Speaker 1 and he walked in and he sat down and he didn't see you, you'd have been like, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I would have done it. Yeah, you would have.
No, I wouldn't. I don't do that.
That's all right. When I'm outside, I'm not the initiated be-seen guy.
I'm really low.

Speaker 1 But that's not important. That's a real life thing.
It don't matter right there. So I'm not doing that because my girl's there, and we're not pushing.

Speaker 1 I respect that.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 And then what happens? Oh, so now this is why it's funny. Because

Speaker 1 there's famous levels in the garden. For sure.
You're level two.

Speaker 1 I'm not level two. I'm a different level.
He's row two. He's level like five.
Oh. Nah, he might be like three.
Don't do that. Don't try.
Don't try.

Speaker 1 You three. Three.
Three is fair. You're level three.
I say it to say my garden experience is never being the famous guy in the garden to get you. They'll put your little celebrity.

Speaker 1 No, y'all hear me talk. I come in here and talk shit saying I'm more famous than half of them little white kid actors they be putting up there.
But it's not about that. And I'm low.

Speaker 1 So Fat Joe and 50 Cent being in front of me means that this is about to be a different thing. And it's some some black people in this garden that know me, so they know what this situation is.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So they look at me.

Speaker 1 So every time the little white lady come over to Fat Joe and 50 Cent with some big time celebrity shit,

Speaker 1 there's black people around.

Speaker 1 I see.

Speaker 1 What's going on?

Speaker 1 Cool. So I say to my girl,

Speaker 1 yo,

Speaker 1 if they come over over here with that celebrity camera shit, I'm wrapping my set.

Speaker 1 Because I have to.

Speaker 1 I have to, just because it's here. She said, don't you dare do that shit.
This shit going to be all over the internet. I said, I have to do it.
And sure enough, they came over.

Speaker 1 And I looked and I said.

Speaker 1 And we laughed and laughed and laughed. And then, and five minutes after that, I think think he seen me after that.

Speaker 1 Well, actually, in my story, he didn't see me. It's always her that's making it hot.

Speaker 1 He's seen her.

Speaker 1 He turned around.

Speaker 1 And he said, oh, shit, Joe.

Speaker 1 And then we spoke.

Speaker 1 The nature of the conversation will remain between you. I apologize.
We kept it pushing.

Speaker 1 Please, sir. No.

Speaker 1 Not tonight.

Speaker 1 We had a good talk. Just to the start of the fourth.
Just let me stay to the start of the fourth.

Speaker 1 Get your shit off. That button.

Speaker 1 Not in front of my girlfriend.

Speaker 1 Not in front of my kids, Gus.

Speaker 1 Not in front of my kids.

Speaker 1 Text and pet joe on the little one.

Speaker 1 She niggas cool.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Banks. Everybody got to see

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Yo, y'all are so dumb.

Speaker 1 But it's funny. So now, but wait now, because before any any of this even happens, nigga, when I tell you, my phone is on absolute fire in here.

Speaker 1 My phone is buzzing in a way that it's never buzzed before with people that I didn't even know watched basketball.

Speaker 1 Everybody is up. My aunts is up.
The children is up. Your five-year-old nephews is up watching.
Your brothers is watching. Everybody is watching this game.
I'm like, oh, they definitely got us on.

Speaker 1 You was trending on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't know. You was trending all night.
Like, that's how I saw. They can start sending me the photo.

Speaker 1 I didn't even understand. Because with the photos that I got, they weren't good photos.
I couldn't really see 50.

Speaker 1 Right? So I'm like, what the fuck, niggas? I know he got tickets. You could see Joe, but you couldn't see 50.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I'm like, yo, I know the fuck. I know he got tickets.
Like, why are you sending me this shit? He was kissing somebody's ass.

Speaker 1 You know who it was.

Speaker 1 Huh?

Speaker 1 I don't get it.

Speaker 1 So then I'm like, yo, I don't understand.

Speaker 1 And then somebody hit me like, yo,

Speaker 1 you see that bullshit, your man? See, see, see, karma. I'm like, what are you talking about? They're like, nigga, you ain't see the picture I sent you.
I'm like, yeah, I don't get it.

Speaker 1 Then they said, nigga, go look at the first row. And I look, I said, oh,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, you did look a little purvis, though.

Speaker 1 You was Purvis Ellison.

Speaker 1 Let y'all tell it. Let y'all in the internet tell it.

Speaker 1 You look like a person who's trying to look calm.

Speaker 1 And I ain't going to step on it. He was smiling hard.
He looked like he was trying to look cool.

Speaker 1 I'm not even rebutting none of y'all saying, because even that look pussy. Have fun.
Have fun. Don't get your shit off.
You know what I mean? Cartoons nigga be eating his day. I was like,

Speaker 1 typewriter.

Speaker 1 It's cool, dog. Oh, shit.
Did you see 50s Instagram posts later? I saw it at the game. Oh, okay.
He posted that at the game. I saw it at the game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that was but

Speaker 1 that was after our talk. After we talked.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was a really good talk. It was a great talk.
You felt safe after the talk. I felt safe before the talk.
Oh, okay. Because the post was, I seen Joe.

Speaker 1 He said, I don't need therapy. I don't need therapy no more.
But it sounded to my ears like, he ain't said, basically, he ain't said I need therapy in person. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 That's how I took it. Yeah.
So people took that. I think people are going to read that post and think that he was the shrink.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jokes is big.

Speaker 1 Jokes aside, because 50 is who he is before he got here, right? So his reputation precedes him. So we know why we treat these matters with a certain level of sensitivity.

Speaker 1 However, he's also a genius behind this internet stuff. For sure.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 I always look at the internet shit as him doing internet shit

Speaker 1 and being a master of that.

Speaker 1 And that's it.

Speaker 1 and that's it yeah he knows he manages to stay relevant regardless of whatever the hell's going on and i've had this talk with him in the past right like i think some people don't know that him and i have other ties him and i have gone through things in the past this internet 20 years this internet club now target niggas is up well yeah target the hookah spot like i always bump into him in the most random of and unexpected of places but anytime i've ever seen him it's been a great talk.

Speaker 1 It's been a great talk.

Speaker 1 So I forgot why I've just brought all that up to the series. I didn't mean to.

Speaker 1 Just to let us know, you're safe. Yeah, you got covered.
You got covered. If y'all didn't come pull up to help,

Speaker 1 we got tickets. Yes.

Speaker 1 I was safe. We had a good time.
Oh, and back to this leaving at the end of the game, because I see this is a thing. Yeah, yeah.
And Mark is new, so he don't know.

Speaker 1 I'm going to leave before the game is over. In a playoff game, it was a nail biter.
It wasn't a nail biter. It was a nail biter.
It was not a nail biter.

Speaker 1 By the time we left, we had missed the shot that would bring us within four. We was down like five or six with two minutes left.
It looked like a bad thing.

Speaker 1 You don't think being down five in a playoff game? It went about two minutes left and y'all was going body shot for body shot? That's not what was happening in that fourth.

Speaker 1 I watched the whole game, bro. Okay, I didn't see the game started.
I did. That was a close after fourth quarter.
I was like, I'm going to be a little bit. Close fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 I would have left under normal circumstances. I'm leaving with five minutes left on the clock.
I stayed. I'll do that.
I stayed longer.

Speaker 1 You stay there too long and that block to get up to the Lincoln Tunnel, you'll be there. You'll be there for an hour.
I'm leaving. I'm always leaving.
See, I'm not here to play.

Speaker 1 I'm never staying to the end of a game. I'm not.
Summer jam, concert, movie. Strip club, movies.
Movies? Movies?

Speaker 1 I'm leaving early. Like,

Speaker 1 if the end of the movie is kind of over for the most part.

Speaker 1 If I don't care about this movie anymore,

Speaker 1 yeah, I'll stand up at the edge of the game. I'm in the girl and just stand right here.

Speaker 1 I don't care that that much about traffic. Yeah, I do.
Oh, I do. I try to beat the traffic, but if it's a playoff game, I ain't missing that.

Speaker 1 And it was a close game, bro. That game could have gone either way.
What? The two threes, if Carnegie Townsend played well. Either.
Bro, they was down. Nobody played well.

Speaker 1 That was the worst game if the Knicks played all year.

Speaker 1 I think both games went like that.

Speaker 1 I think what happened in those two games, and this is the A-block, so we ain't going to talk sports, but I think they were some of the worst officiated games I've seen.

Speaker 1 Them niggas was out there playing Guerrilla Ball, fucking each other up.

Speaker 1 Both games, they was fucking each other up, and

Speaker 1 uh, the Knicks were the beneficiary of a bunch of them calls. I think they just couldn't.

Speaker 1 They got even last night. They used to be a bully.
They got even last night because Detroit got a whole bunch of calls last night, and we didn't get shit.

Speaker 1 I don't know what Tom Thibodeau was doing, but I ain't gonna say nothing about it in case I go to game five and see these people.

Speaker 1 That boy

Speaker 1 Durin on the Pistons

Speaker 1 is a a big nigga. Yeah.
Like, yo, that nigga dived into the crowd.

Speaker 1 He dived into the crowd while I'm sitting right there. Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I had to. That'd be no joke.
I had to pick Rick Brunson up off the floor.

Speaker 1 Rick Brunson ain't a small dude. Rich out to Rick Brunson.
That's my bad. And that little white nigga that fucking nose is bleeding.
It's a mess over there.

Speaker 1 Joe, game five. If the Knicks lose, are you sports superstitious? Like, if they lose twice with you in attendance, do you stop going to the games?

Speaker 1 The Knicks lose when I'm there.

Speaker 1 That's the running joke with me and my dad. When I go, don't know when to happen.

Speaker 1 You going to keep going despite that? Yes.

Speaker 1 Because this ain't our year anyway. This ain't our year to win it.
No. To win it all? Yeah, this ain't our year.
I still had a chance to get to the East, the Eastern Finals.

Speaker 1 I still think we got a chance. Not me.
I still think we got a chance.

Speaker 1 Some health issues. I mean, it's possible.

Speaker 1 But I want to say what I want to say, because Tatum is my man. But shit, if them bones get to break and all that stuff, that's what I'm saying.
On the Celtics.

Speaker 1 That's the health issues I'm talking about. Yeah.
That's my man. We don't wish that on Jason Tatum.
Because on the low, I root for the Celtics, too, because I love that. I love their coach.

Speaker 1 He is a menace to society. Yo, did you see when Tatum fell? Yes.
And he told the medical dude to train him, no, don't go over there. Get up.
Get your light-skinned ass up.

Speaker 1 He's a monster. And I respect that because I'm tired of seeing players hit the floor and stay down for five minutes like they got shot.
Yeah. Just to get up and play again.
It's like,

Speaker 1 knock it off. And Joe Mazuda's like, knock it off.

Speaker 1 But anyway. Pay news.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I left. I entered my car safely, got home safely.
Well, not even, because she got, oh, let's keep the night going. Yep.
Let's keep this party going.

Speaker 1 I'm like, wait, why?

Speaker 1 Why? It's lit already. Let me just go do what I got to do in the crib.
So now we run over there, and then from there,

Speaker 1 now she's all the way gone.

Speaker 1 You know, Janice's like, huh, drive through McDonald's.

Speaker 1 Wait, it sounds like my wife talking about it. Oh, my God.
Drive through McDonald's. Yeah, let me get some nuggets and some, all this drunk shit.
Yeah, yeah. All right, cool.
So then we do that.

Speaker 1 And by the time we get in the house, she's now singing the Sunset Park song. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 It's time to get in live. It's time to get it.
It's time to represent.

Speaker 1 That was the shit. Sunset Park.
What time is this?

Speaker 1 If you don't get your drunk ass handy, fuck it.

Speaker 1 Man. It's not time for Onyx.

Speaker 1 Front drone.

Speaker 1 Yo, the Sunset Park songs.

Speaker 1 That's when you know somebody is just gone. Yeah, for sure.
Oh, we had a great night last night. I ain't gonna lie.
That's us one. It was a really good day night.
And only me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Only me. That is true.
Only me.

Speaker 1 I'm glad you're safe, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Me too.

Speaker 1 Me too. That's what I got for you.
Me too. That is.

Speaker 1 I'm safe, too. Yeah.
I'm safe. You lucky.
I'm lucky.

Speaker 1 Look like JBP handle all family business.

Speaker 1 What beef you had?

Speaker 1 I woke up this morning to find out that my beef with AC is over, academic.

Speaker 1 Come on, Ron.

Speaker 1 I'm glad you pieced it up. You lucky.
Me too. You lucky, big act.
Ack is a friend of the show.

Speaker 1 Ag is more than a friend of the show, but he's a friend of the show. Yeah, and I, you know, we've had issues, I guess, for the last couple years.
I hadn't really

Speaker 1 think about it like a beef. Uh-huh.
You know, because I wasn't actively beefing. But.

Speaker 1 What the fuck were y'all beefing about? So, a couple about

Speaker 1 maybe 2022, he had made a comment

Speaker 1 that I

Speaker 1 disagreed with and I found problematic. I'll just say that.
I don't want to put it out there because I don't want to go back down that road.

Speaker 1 And I tweeted about it.

Speaker 1 And he didn't like my tweets. I think he first tweeted,

Speaker 1 Marco Mont Hill is a bitch. Bitch-ass nigga, something like that, right?

Speaker 1 Which I took as him being upset. Sure.

Speaker 1 And then he deleted that, and then he, but he went live, then he went live that night. And shitted on you.
Oh, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 He said he was going to.

Speaker 1 That's the way he does his workout. He's going to smack me.
No, he's going to spit on his hand and smack me when you're. Oh.

Speaker 1 That's what that live button do.

Speaker 1 Man, little Hennessy in the mix. Yeah, oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Home,

Speaker 1 coffee, back at Dakota Sac.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm getting my shit off.
Right, a couple drinks, get it, get it.

Speaker 1 And people was like tagging me and shit.

Speaker 1 And then it just, it got, I didn't watch all of it because I couldn't, you know what I mean? But it went long. The video went long enough that I was like, okay, he's going in on this.

Speaker 1 He just really bothered him. And I was thinking, like,

Speaker 1 we get criticized for a living. Right.
And I didn't say nothing personal, but I guess he took it personally.

Speaker 1 And I didn't respond because I was like, two reasons I didn't respond. One, like, I don't like the back and forth shit, especially when you start talking about violence.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not getting on the internet like you were scared. Terrified.
Yeah. Terrified.
You're lucky he didn't catch you on the guard.

Speaker 1 It would have gone way different.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. No, he didn't show no mercy for me.
They got for Mark. Yeah.
That's probably true.

Speaker 1 But unlike you, I squashed it.

Speaker 1 I stepped up. If I know somebody, I squash it.
But why didn't you squash this?

Speaker 1 I did. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 And it was no reciprocity. Oh, so you brought peace.

Speaker 1 You squashed beefs now? Yes. Oh.

Speaker 1 Well, scron Joe.

Speaker 1 I will say Joe did squash. Because what happened was

Speaker 1 AC was going crazy. I was going to smack me all this shit, right? So I was like,

Speaker 1 I was calm in public, but in private,

Speaker 1 I was on 10. You were doing push-ups.

Speaker 1 So I called Joe. This is like two years ago.
He was doing curls with books.

Speaker 1 Come on, do boys.

Speaker 1 I said this before, I just didn't mention it was act. I called him

Speaker 1 to tell me what to do. This is like two years ago, and I called him Charlotte Maine and Van Lathan.
Right.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious, my lawyer.

Speaker 1 And I did it.

Speaker 1 Yo, guys, I need help. I'm calling him help.
Super fun, super friend. It was like,

Speaker 1 it was like, I was trying to, I was trying to, to, because he said he wanted to meet up with me to fight. Right.
So, I, the fuck. So, I'm calling Charlamagne.
Yo, y'all. Pull up with me.

Speaker 1 I was like, what the fuck is up with this nigga? Like,

Speaker 1 get him off me, y'all. Get him off me.
Yeah. You know what I mean? Get him off.

Speaker 1 Everybody, the bad man. Big ass.

Speaker 1 Big ass. Yes, I love this story.

Speaker 1 So, and I'm calling each one of them that I thought was going to hype me up to tell me, like,

Speaker 1 you know.

Speaker 1 Chill out. Jump out the window, which is what I was looking for an excuse to do.
This nigga is laughing.

Speaker 1 That's why I only talk to Joe like on the phone, like maybe two. Why you did not call Joe button, Charlemagne, and Van Layton and think that they was going to put a battery in your back.

Speaker 1 I thought him and Charlemagne was. I thought Van with paper, though.
Never. Two of those names sound like they might.

Speaker 1 Understand, Van text. Van is the one who texted me in the video.
So I had Van in back as a courtesy. Like, yo, what the fuck is that? This man? Like, what's up with your man?

Speaker 1 I feel like Van might do other low too. I think there's an evil van in there.
I don't know. There is an evil van, but Van is reasonable with other people.

Speaker 1 Just like me, I wouldn't tell none of y'all to do that shit. Oh, shit.
I think me and Van squashed.

Speaker 1 Well, nah, maybe not thinking too far so so i called joe and joe was like he's like man leave that alone man like let that go you mark on my hill like you can't be out here fighting niggas right

Speaker 1 and i felt like a dickhead for even mentioning it right because i'm like and then this well you should have then charlamagne told me some story about he started talking about pigs and mud and some country shit i didn't understand but

Speaker 1 at the end of the story it seemed like he didn't want me to he wanted me to leave it alone too and then and then van i knew what van was gonna do so i left it alone i didn't say nothing else and there's been other times where him and vlad have said shit like you know,

Speaker 1 you think I'm going to end my career.

Speaker 1 Right. Okay.

Speaker 1 Whatever. So I ignore all of it, didn't care.
And I was like, if we ever see each other, we'll talk in person. I'm confident I'm not going to get smacked.
So, um,

Speaker 1 I'm not letting the act do that. You know, I don't, hold up.
Come on. I don't need nobody to let nobody not smack me.
Oh, then I'll unsend the text.

Speaker 1 So if you don't need that, put the smoke back in there.

Speaker 1 Let me let me unsend the text I sent him.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 now you can do it to him now. He said he's cool.

Speaker 1 Put powder on your hand first.

Speaker 1 Right, dude. They're going to powder LeBron's shit.
He's going to smack the powder. They're going to powder you.
So, more importantly, how did you end the beef? So, basically, what happened was

Speaker 1 the other day,

Speaker 1 I guess he made another video about why he didn't come. He mentioned that he hasn't come to JVP, and now that I'm there, he don't feel comfortable.
He didn't say comfortable.

Speaker 1 Basically, he wasn't coming up here, and part of it,

Speaker 1 as I interpreted it, was was because I'm here. Wow.
Not like, because

Speaker 1 he got beef, so he won't want to be on the set with somebody. He got beef with, I presume, is the reason.

Speaker 1 And then when we went to messy-ass spaces with the JB TV folk, me and Joe was on there on Sunday. I told you got something in that contract.

Speaker 1 They raised the issue. Well, no, Mark knows how to space.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Never mind.

Speaker 1 And so they asked me the question, and I gave... the most honest answer I could, which is I don't have beef wag.
Like, I don't have, it's not a personal issue.

Speaker 1 I said something that he didn't like, it wasn't personal.

Speaker 1 Um, but I went through the whole bit and I said, I'm not out here trying to beef with anybody, but at 46 years old, but especially another black man, like, that's corny to me.

Speaker 1 Like, the fuck we gonna beef about? And we definitely got nothing to fight about.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? So,

Speaker 1 Ack has a voice that people want to hear from. Yeah, yada, yada, yada.
Yeah, I said all that, and it was sincere. And I called the big homie, and the big homie made my problem go away.
Got it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so then this morning when I woke up, I didn't say none of that in 50s here.

Speaker 1 I didn't do none of that. You my brother, yo, black on black.

Speaker 1 Queens, get the money.

Speaker 1 You went there with all that bullshit.

Speaker 1 So at the end of the day, this morning, right before we started recording this, I heard Act respond, and he basically was like, there's no issue.

Speaker 1 Like he said he thought that I was coming at him personally, but more importantly, he felt like I was looking down on his platform and people like him about what they do.

Speaker 1 And so he kind of, he's saying he jumped out the window because he felt like I, you know, like that he he worked hard for this platform.

Speaker 1 He felt like I was dismissing all of his work and saying he was worth like his platform wasn't worth anything. And that wasn't what I was, that was never what I was doing.

Speaker 1 You know, I've been in social and media for a long time and I respect all platforms.

Speaker 1 For me, it's about what they say, not about the platform. So we ain't got no issue.
So that's it. So again, JBP has handled all family business.
Yeah, round of applause.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, we're sitting around applause. Y'all got any beasts y'all need to settle? We're in a round of applause.
No beef.

Speaker 1 I'm at the age where I'm comfortable. People think I'm bitches.
I'm okay with that. You know what I'm saying? I know I can fight.
I can defend myself.

Speaker 1 If something come up, it come up. But other than that, that's how I feel.

Speaker 1 Yo, people are crazy. Right.
I was reading some comments from the game last night. Like, what did they think was going to happen at Madison Square Garden?

Speaker 1 Game two. Playoffs.
Playoffs. Like, niggas, do you know how up niggas are? I was about to say it was two multi-millionaire black men.
Right. Like around the floor.
Yeah, like dog. Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 The only time I've ever seen that happen was actually with Shannon Sharp when he was at the LA Lakers game when he was about to fight,

Speaker 1 he was about to fight Josh Dad

Speaker 1 and all of them.

Speaker 1 And they wasn't about to. They wasn't going to fight neither.
But

Speaker 1 even the posturing of looking like he was about to was a lot. Yeah, and it looks like a lot.
Speaking of Shannon. Shannon and a lot.

Speaker 1 He just

Speaker 1 that don't know, Shannon Sharp has been sued civilly for $50 million. I googled her images too, not just the normal Google the woman who you goddamn right

Speaker 1 The woman filed the case as a Jane Doe and he unjane doe her right I'm just I'm just making that clear How do you feel about that? I don't

Speaker 1 I haven't put you in a tough spot. It's tough because I believe that I know why people have Jane Doe's.

Speaker 1 I know that victims get harassed, they get verbally assaulted, they get railroaded, they get doxxed, and a lot of things happen.

Speaker 1 I also believe in people having a fair process, and I need to be able to confront my accuser, and I need to be able to address my accuser.

Speaker 1 So, for me, it's a tension, and I don't have an answer for exactly where I land on it.

Speaker 1 It's kind of case-by-case. Is it circumstantial? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So, in this case, in this case, how do you feel about it? I need to know her name,

Speaker 1 especially given the fact that Tony Busby is behind this.

Speaker 1 For me, that is

Speaker 1 a deal maker.

Speaker 1 When you hire an attorney who has a history of doing a certain thing that is unethical and probably illegal, how is he still getting the shit off?

Speaker 1 Because most celebrities.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's his history and the impact. Most people don't want mud on them.
So he's been successful getting this shit off. He's successful all the time.

Speaker 1 Yo, he's probably, he's probably unbeknownst to us. And he might just be the poster child right at this second.
But millions of lawyers across the globe are getting this off.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 And that shouldn't take away from

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 real.

Speaker 1 And that's the problem. That's one of the problems.
Is that it does? Is that it does. It shouldn't.

Speaker 1 So now what happens when the next celebrity dude that might unfortunately really do some shit to a woman, it softens the blow because now it's like, eh, did this really happen?

Speaker 1 Because the last two people said, you get what I'm saying? And that's unfortunate to the people that really get violated or

Speaker 1 And she may have been. Again, I don't want to assume she's not.

Speaker 1 We don't know. That's true.
Yeah, I don't want to assume she's not. But again, I get your point.
I know seeing 2025

Speaker 1 in the docket was a fucking blow to me.

Speaker 1 Normally when these come up, it's like

Speaker 1 she did this in this year.

Speaker 1 She was like, yo, 2025.

Speaker 1 He was wild. I was like, God damn.

Speaker 1 And it's so many parts to this, this story. First, it's

Speaker 1 allegation, right? Obviously, people have a civil suit. Some people are saying if it happened in 2025, why didn't you go to the cops?

Speaker 1 There are legitimate reasons why people don't go to police with sexual assault cases. So I don't want to assume that somebody who only sues criminally or only sues civilly is lying.

Speaker 1 But that's one piece of the case that we have to talk about. The other piece of it is Shannon comes out with immediately.

Speaker 1 Immediately. With his response.
Yeah. Two pages.
No, no, no. Before that.
Oh. Timing.

Speaker 1 Yes. Timing is important because Shannon Sharp just got announced that he was potentially looking at a $100 million deal.
A huge deal. And I would like, that's where my focus is.
Right.

Speaker 1 So the timing of that, that's one. And then you sue for 50 million.
So

Speaker 1 him inking that deal or him settling out, that's the motivator. Like, yo, dog, we'll go away so you can go get your 100.
Give me eight. Give me 10.
You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, we're going to sue for 50, but we'll really take 10. We'll really take seven.
It's a timing. It's even messier than that.
Sometimes it sometimes is what you said, but it's also, look,

Speaker 1 give me five

Speaker 1 and we're good. But if I go public, I'm going to ask for 50 and you might not get the 100.
That's the thing. That's what I'm saying.
Now we're going to leverage your $100 million.

Speaker 1 It's extortion.

Speaker 1 I would like to focus on that for a second at the risk of

Speaker 1 I know we're talking about a sensitive subject,

Speaker 1 but I want to focus on the timing

Speaker 1 with his announcement of $100 million and so forth and so on.

Speaker 1 Because I've just seen that happening too much. And I have to ask,

Speaker 1 where are these announcements coming from

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 why do we need them?

Speaker 1 I've never heard him announce it. He might have.
I didn't see anything where he publicly announced it. You know the rumor mill.
It's like

Speaker 1 Woge. You know what I'm saying? Or Shannon's that'll announce some potential shit coming up because it makes for good media.
It's clickbaity. All right, that was halfway a rhetorical question.

Speaker 1 I didn't really want the answer. Oh, no, I'm just saying that's where we are in society.

Speaker 1 Assuming that Shannon's deal is up,

Speaker 1 which is what they're saying,

Speaker 1 you would assume that he's in the negotiation stage,

Speaker 1 which is normally when these drops start to happen of reports.

Speaker 1 Someone close to the situation knows. And who knows what Shannon...
wants and what he is looking for and why would they announce it.

Speaker 1 I feel like usually that's their own team using it as some type of leverage pulling

Speaker 1 to let somebody somewhere know that this is the ballpark that

Speaker 1 we want to be able to do. They'll come over here talking about $20 million.

Speaker 1 Or we'll overinflate what we really want.

Speaker 1 Let's say he wants 50.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't think he wants 100. You get what I'm saying? The publicists will throw it out there that he's negotiating for 100.
That might be his team.

Speaker 1 And I'm not going to say what he is or isn't worth because I don't think that's right. Get as much as you can get.

Speaker 1 But this is a,

Speaker 1 we're familiar with it as a negotiation tactic on one side, like y'all have said.

Speaker 1 So, on the flip side of that, not to be this person.

Speaker 1 But, one,

Speaker 1 if I want to devalue that,

Speaker 1 there's a history in this country of putting out stories where we could shit on you. I'm not saying that that's what the volume is doing or that they're responsible for this,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 I think that people should stop announcing the money that they're looking for

Speaker 1 because this is what comes with it. It's the gift and the curse.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you're trying to negotiate to get a higher coin, but somebody's going to come along and make sure that now you're just done. And that coin that you think you was getting, it's like pointless.

Speaker 1 It's just no, it's no, it's no reason for it. It puts you in more danger.
Dog,

Speaker 1 it puts you at more risk to announce it. I used to go to like real estate seminars and shit, right? And they said that it's people out here that literally read the obituaries.

Speaker 1 Like lawsuits is a hustle. It's a hustle for some niggas.
So you'll read the obituary and let's say it says real estate tycoon passes away. He leaves his family a net fortune of $200 million.

Speaker 1 There's a lawyer that will backdate a suit, go file that shit for $4 million, right? Just say $4 million, something like. Dog, now your shit going to go on probate.

Speaker 1 So now we're gonna say, yo, we suing you for 4 million for whatever.

Speaker 1 This shit going to hold up you getting 300, 400 million dollars.

Speaker 1 What the kids typically do, they'll be like, yo, tell them we'll give them $2 million to go away so that we can get on with our estate shit. Because it's all not free money, but all probate.

Speaker 1 Because now we could literally be in probate for three, four, five years and tie up your bread. You want the 300 million or you want to give me 2.5? We'll settle for 2.5.
And niggas, that's a scam.

Speaker 1 And that's Tony Busby's approach.

Speaker 1 He he goes to celebrities behind the scenes and says look i got some allegations against you uh pay me now pay me now or it's gonna go public knowing that just the public smut on your name it's good fuck a business fuck a business you may lose more fighting the case even if you're innocent than otherwise again i'm not saying this woman isn't wasn't harmed i don't know her i don't know the case i don't know them well enough to say but again picking tony busby just picking that kind of lawyer to me automatically marks you if you are a victim of sexual assault and i mean this sincerely please don't pick tony busby because it it just doesn't do you.

Speaker 1 Certainly not right now. Not right now.

Speaker 1 And probably never. It doesn't do you any favors.
Shannon did something interesting, though, to me.

Speaker 1 He posted on Instagram his immediate response. Hit all of his freaky ass texts.
Right. He posted the text messages from the woman.

Speaker 1 I'm not mad at that neither.

Speaker 1 I ain't mad at all.

Speaker 1 I don't like that. Listen, it's something that I wouldn't do.
We wouldn't normally do that. But yo, when you fighting for your life, my nigga, it's a different ballgame.

Speaker 1 Y'all need to stop i'm not done doubling down on the point y'all announce your money for what i'm not off of that yet i ain't

Speaker 1 i'm with you i'm with you because the the white dudes don't do it and when they do it it's a lie joe rogan has up the black community

Speaker 1 I'm gonna just say

Speaker 1 I'm not stopping it. And you're not stopping.

Speaker 1 And usually, you know, I don't rock on the racial shit.

Speaker 1 The white niggas don't have to do it because they getting equity and they getting farther up the ladder. They don't have to prove they worth.

Speaker 1 We got to prove our worth publicly just to get table scraps. If fucking Stephen A.
Smith was white, he wouldn't have to show I got $100 million. He would have got $100 million eight years ago.

Speaker 1 So now the blacks are showing other blacks, yo, come on. I'm showing you what we making so that y'all can now go to the table and barter better.
It's wrong. Bro, we shouldn't have to do it.

Speaker 1 I'm saying that it shouldn't be done.

Speaker 1 If Joe Button showed other podcasters potentially what he was making, that would inspire other podcasters to be like, if Joe could do it, I know it's a hoax and a glimpse that I could potentially get there.

Speaker 1 Joe did that. That's why you see so many living room sets that pretend to be Parks' old placement.
Which is a great thing. Joe Button did it already.
No, which is a great thing. They've seen it.

Speaker 1 They say, oh, this is cracking bum, nigga. Yeah,

Speaker 1 all he needed was a living room.

Speaker 1 I give you props.

Speaker 1 I give you props. Every interview.
But what I'm saying to you is I did that and nobody still know what I make.

Speaker 1 Not listening. I'm talking about now at the negotiating table, it's another level.
I didn't do it then. No, listen to my point.

Speaker 1 If you had done that, if that knowledge, if you shared your knowledge,

Speaker 1 listen, I'm talking about financially. If a nigga had an inkling, then now a nigga could say, yo, maybe I'm not Joe, but I might look at myself as a tenth of Joe or a third of Joe or a half of Joe.

Speaker 1 So now when I go to these tables, I could know more of my worth and I could negotiate better. I'm telling you.
Based off something Joe got.

Speaker 1 You could tell him, then let's have that conversation privately the way that I've had it with so many podcasters already.

Speaker 1 I've had this conversation with most of the black podcasters out there privately. The only problem is the younger up-and-comers can't get a hold of you.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 The podcasters can't get a hold of Joe. Joe's going to go talk to about five of these niggas, if five.

Speaker 1 Dog, six years of this podcast has been Joe Budden making it in real time and Joe Button having to make the right decision at a crossroads with these companies and yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 1 It's been the companies saying, hey, we'll pay you this, but please keep it quiet because we don't want to pay the other companies that like,

Speaker 1 you do not have, the only time I see creators do this is when they're in a deep negotiation for a whole lot of money. And in that instance,

Speaker 1 the gift is a curse. Like that's what I was trying to say earlier, but I was fumbling on my words.
In that instance, the gift is a curse.

Speaker 1 You're worth, I'm not talking about Shannon because I don't want to say what his worth is i'm not in the business just anybody

Speaker 1 they're gonna give you 60

Speaker 1 you want a buck 20.

Speaker 1 what you're putting at risk by announcing to a public that you want 120

Speaker 1 is not going to be worth the it's not going to be worth the reward when you're already worth the 50 to 60.

Speaker 1 you're already one of the best in the business stephen a is a different case

Speaker 1 he's the best in the business he's He's the best in the business and has been there for 15 years and has watched so many other people come and do it.

Speaker 1 Pat McAfee just sent a shot his way or had somebody on the wrestling dude to sent a shot his way.

Speaker 1 He's in a different boat. Stephen A is in a different boat.
The rest of us,

Speaker 1 dog. I think aside from the money thing, people got to learn to freaky better.

Speaker 1 To do what? Freaky better. You got to freaky a little bit safer.
More discreetly. Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah. I'm saying Joe Rogan has black podcasters throwing around the words 100 million like we talking about sardines.
True. But

Speaker 1 I think that the way that the Stephen A. Smith shit was handled, if you saw results come from that, then your media team is going to try,

Speaker 1 even if he's not Stephen A. Smith, to emulate some of that.
Joe, you saying that he might really want 60

Speaker 1 and put it out to the world that I want 100.

Speaker 1 You understand what I'm saying? Okay, so now

Speaker 1 you're the same way that you think you're signaling to the companies, you're signaling to bottom feeders. I'm not disagreeing.
I'm agreeing with you, that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 Yo, I'm telling you this as somebody that has gone through something similar that I can't talk about, that I would love to talk about.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 actually, you know what? I was sued over my dog biting somebody back in the day. I've told this story here, too, about sin fucking, hey, is there a nail? Is there a nail tank in the area?

Speaker 1 And having a stranger just come to your house. and now you got a cane corso, and now that person, but my lawyer at that time explained to me, yo, dog, $7,000 to people

Speaker 1 on a quick shot, a quick claim,

Speaker 1 you can't sleep on what it does to people.

Speaker 1 And if you're saying that about $7,000 and $10,000 and $15,000, then imagine what you're saying about $20,000, $40,050, $100,020, $300 grand to people that know that they're never going to see that shit.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 It's well worth it to fucking just go throw a lie on a a nigga

Speaker 1 i'm super paranoid when it comes to that that's why you should i try not i try not to hang around girls i ain't supposed to hang around i don't talk to people i don't supposed to talk to i ain't just it got to be some level of trust for us to even have any communication because the stakes is too high that makes it easier today so now so now poor shannon right poor poor shannon

Speaker 1 Some people think that the volume might have put this out to step on his shit, but even if they didn't, this steps on his negotiation. For sure.
It does. It does.

Speaker 1 Whether true or not true, I still feel for Druski, who just put something out that said,

Speaker 1 yo, dog, when these claims came out about me on the day that they blanked,

Speaker 1 not only did I have 91 cents, I was in Atlanta. They claim I was in Los Angeles.
It just couldn't be true, but it don't mean nothing. The damage is done.

Speaker 1 That's the point. As soon as you say it,

Speaker 1 the damage is done. Respectable companies have to take a step back just because of what we...
Optics. True.

Speaker 1 Dog, if anybody, if somebody pop up tomorrow and say, Ish blanked me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You my man. I don't think you did that.
I was around, nigga. You was getting.

Speaker 1 I would be really shocking if all of you were doing that. I was there for some of your glory days.

Speaker 1 Don't even put that in. But I would have to

Speaker 1 put that

Speaker 1 in a verse. Yeah, I'm not.
So knock on something. But I would have to have an uncomfortable talk with you.
Hey, got to step back, buddy. Go build your houses and get the fuck away from there.

Speaker 1 You were making it wrong.

Speaker 1 So I want to read these. I'm going to read.

Speaker 1 We got to get the text.

Speaker 1 I'm going to read these out.

Speaker 1 And right now, at the time of this, they're saying that

Speaker 1 there's audio out. Yeah, we got to share an apology address situation already.
Oh, yeah, we do. I'll play that, and then I'll get into some of the texts that were sent from Shannon defending himself.

Speaker 1 Let's see. Here we go.
To my family, friends, supporters, and colleagues, I want to speak to you directly and from the heart. This is a shakedown.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be open, transparent, and defend myself because this isn't right. This is all being orchestrated by Tony Busley, who has targeted Jay-Z.

Speaker 1 Tony Busley targets black men, and I believe he's going to release a 30-second clip of a sex tape that tries to make me look guilty and play into every stereotype you could possibly imagine.

Speaker 1 That video should actually be 10 minutes or so. Hey, Tony, instead of releasing your edit, put the whole video out.
I don't have it or I wouldn't myself.

Speaker 1 You know what happened and you're trying to manipulate the media.

Speaker 1 The encounter in question took place during the day at her invitation and now that appears to be a deliberate setup coordinated by Gabby, also known as Carly on OnlyFans.

Speaker 1 Gabby and Tony Buzzley want $50 million.

Speaker 1 What they're getting is sued for defamation and trying to take me down. My career is all about real talk and honesty.
I know my family and fans know exactly what this is about.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to be out there telling you whatever I need to say, just like I always do. I love love all you guys.
Thanks.

Speaker 1 What do y'all think of his statement?

Speaker 1 I'm in support.

Speaker 1 I think it's bold.

Speaker 1 I'm in support. And I like it, though.

Speaker 1 I think the shit that Jay-Z did is going to start being the norm for somebody that's innocent. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Again, I don't want to say innocent or guilty bag, but I think that's going to start being the norm.

Speaker 1 For people that got enough money to fight it, I think they're going to step in front of it and not cower.

Speaker 1 I'm letting the successful black men out there know that they are coming through you, through your dick. Yeah, true.
Yeah, you got a freaky better.

Speaker 1 Because this nigga's freaky. Yeah.
We've seen it. I love it.
Yeah, Michelle told us.

Speaker 1 Michelle told us that he was freaky. And now you want, you got the OnlyFans chick.

Speaker 1 He just put our OnlyFans out.

Speaker 1 You know, known as Carly on what is going on? This shit is up.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. This shit is crazy.

Speaker 1 These texts, man.

Speaker 1 I'll read these texts.

Speaker 1 Oh my lord. Jesus Mary and Joe.
All right, no, no. He wrote two pages of Microsoft Word documents

Speaker 1 about the text. Okay.
The texts go as.

Speaker 1 She says, only if you put that baby gravy in me,

Speaker 1 then I can do whatever

Speaker 1 I want to me. See, right there, I'm stopping the sex thing.
Don't say baby gravy. Baby Gravy is wild.
That's my point. That's these niggas is too freaky.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So keep in mind, she's very young. At the time they met, she was 19, and he's in his 50s.
I don't know how old she is at the time these texts are being sent. It says 2023, 2024, 2024.
Like this date.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that's 19. Either way, you're being too fucking freaky, nigga.
Baby,

Speaker 1 Baby Gravy tells me you...

Speaker 1 That's yo, don't talk to no girl that's texting Baby Gravy to you. That sounds like the first question, nigga.
nigga.

Speaker 1 She continues. Alabama somewhere.
I want to put my tongue in your asshole, then marry you.

Speaker 1 I mean, salute.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 dog, you niggas that's trying to get $100 and $200 million from somebody. Get up a day.

Speaker 1 There's got to be a better way. On January 12th, 2024, that's my daddy.
Fuck.

Speaker 1 I want you to put a big black baby in me. See? This sounds like a 40-year-old virgin flirting.

Speaker 1 No, when she started talking that baby shit, because a couple of them text messages started talking about, y'all want you to come in me, I want you to put a baby in me, all that other shit.

Speaker 1 That sounds like money grab to me. Yes, it does.
It sounds like money grab and I'm gone. Like, that would have.
Yeah, but Shannon is old and from Alabama. Where's Shannon from?

Speaker 1 Georgia. He's from this country, Georgia.
Yeah, and they might have called him ugly growing up. Like, he probably just getting into his heyday.

Speaker 1 I feel like Shannon. He's probably been active for a little while.
The nigga is a Hall of Fame in the FLA.

Speaker 1 He's been in his head. He's playing in Baltimore, bro.
Bro, all of that is great.

Speaker 1 That's y'all's point of view.

Speaker 1 I think I've heard him say before. I'm sure it's kicked up a notch with the

Speaker 1 helmet on.

Speaker 1 Anyway, she continues.

Speaker 1 You better crave it, because you're going to be stuck with it for life after you put a big black baby in me. Red flag.
These are huge red flags. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. She continues.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, that was the end of it. No, there's more, but I don't see it here.
There's one way she was saying. And she's not black, right? No.
No, she's not black.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because black people don't even talk like that. No.
There's one way. How many black girls told you put a big black baby in me? They don't say that.
Well, he doesn't know.

Speaker 1 Hey, the black girls, they don't talk like that. Why she ended up just getting on black girls? There's one way she's saying.
She's met her at the gym, too.

Speaker 1 See, gym head, meathead-ass niggas. These are all like red flags.
Fucking steroid-head niggas just getting got. She's probably in there with them Amazon tights on and that horny ass old nigga.

Speaker 1 Look at you. I sent you the other page.
That's cool. That was more just setup subs.
But that is where she mentions

Speaker 1 $25,000 per cheek. Now, that's what you tricking niggas is paying at?

Speaker 1 Who's you tricking niggas?

Speaker 1 I know you missed this big juicy ass. $25,000 for each cheek.

Speaker 1 I want you to put a dog collar around my neck and choke me with it. I stopped talking to the bitch the second it go over $3,500

Speaker 1 for the whole ass. Perch? Not even cheeky.
Perch?

Speaker 1 For the experience.

Speaker 1 This should be, I should be getting all I can eat

Speaker 1 for $3,500. Yo, you fronting.
I'm not fronting. The right bruffe could get $6,000 out of you.
The right buffet could get more than that. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't stop at $3,500, nigga. Nigga, $25,000 a cheek.
I haven't entered that.

Speaker 1 Wait, first of all,

Speaker 1 this is not me. Sure.
I'm planning marriage. This is Mo Button.
I'm planning to get married. Shout them off.

Speaker 1 But even if me and my girl is on some freaky shit, because that's what I do with me and my girl, it wouldn't be $25,000 per cheek. That's $50,000 for an experience.
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 that's somebody looking for a money graph yeah for sure all this stuff says money graph and if you paying it

Speaker 1 see but I don't be mad at the girls that find an old rich

Speaker 1 and get him I don't

Speaker 1 I respect the game yeah me too if you that damn

Speaker 1 anyway

Speaker 1 not mad

Speaker 1 25 she didn't look like you know what go ahead Mark

Speaker 1 I'm glad Mark is here now I want to establish this though because again I happen I don't trust anybody who has Tony Busby as their attorney because of the history.

Speaker 1 These texts, these things, the limited exchange I had with Shannon yesterday about this, all of it suggests to me

Speaker 1 that I should be skeptical.

Speaker 1 That said, the thing I don't like about the way we're talking about, not on the show, but in the public, is this assumption that because she's freaky, because she wants to get choked with a dog cop.

Speaker 1 That it couldn't happen. That shit couldn't happen.

Speaker 1 You can like rough sex and get sexually assaulted. That's true.
You can be freaky and get sexually assaulted. You can be a sex worker and get sexually assaulted.

Speaker 1 You could have wanted all that shit to happen yesterday, and then today you decide you don't want that no more. You can decide right now I don't want it to happen in two minutes from now.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? So I just want to establish that regardless of what happens on this case,

Speaker 1 this does not mean that we should not listen to the voices of people who make these allegations and who engage in things that we may see as off the straight path.

Speaker 1 That still doesn't make you eligible for any of the awful shit that she's accusing him of doing. That's all I want to say.
That's true. True.

Speaker 1 People that live a life that we're not living shit, this is my bag outside of some of these words.

Speaker 1 Outside of some of these words.

Speaker 1 You said that baby gravy. Who's to say after 9 p.m., I won't go see what our OnlyFans are looking like? I'm tired of a few bitches over there, too.

Speaker 1 No, but that was a great point. I'm glad that you said that.
Oh, of course. Shannon released in these texts don't say that it didn't happen.
That's true. That's true.
So we don't know.

Speaker 1 We reserve the right. to make judgment later after more details come out and prayers to everyone involved.

Speaker 1 And to anybody with something to lose, be careful, yo. Be Be careful.
It is not worth that.

Speaker 1 Rub it out. Save your baby.
Rub it out.

Speaker 1 Put some gravy baby in some paper towels somewhere.

Speaker 1 Live a happy life. And listen,

Speaker 1 for the women out there, right? And the great words are Sister Mel, you never know what a predator looks like. So that's true, too.
Yeah. You just want to be careful.
That's true too.

Speaker 1 What? That's bad. What's the thing?

Speaker 1 Nope. I had a wildly inappropriate joke.

Speaker 1 Evil Mark.

Speaker 1 Evil Mark was like.

Speaker 1 God, God, Jerry.

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Speaker 1 Anyway, where y'all want to go?

Speaker 1 He come and sit down on the couch, man. Come on, man.
Well, he normally is scared of this main show action.

Speaker 1 I don't know. We were talking last night.

Speaker 1 We came on night school, and one of the people on night school asked if he had any thoughts on your Madison Square Garden appearance.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 And he said he was going to save it for today.

Speaker 1 And here's today. Look at that.

Speaker 1 What are you? What are you know? Don't you look at that? Look at you. And you get to sit next to me.
I smell your cologne.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 You got to give him the two-pack.

Speaker 1 I'm glad you're good, man.

Speaker 1 Those are one of the days I was glad to be. Welcome, welcome, Amani.
Let's welcome Amani. Yo, yo, happy yo.

Speaker 1 I'm glad a nigga ain't sent me no invite that day. Oh, yeah, Sade.
All right, he dope. That's dope.
Well, let me and Sade get to it. She's older now.

Speaker 1 I was worried for you, man. A little worried.
A little worried. You didn't text me?

Speaker 1 Nah, I ain't wanna see me text.

Speaker 1 Oh, that nigga, he said he got some.

Speaker 1 Because I was back there reading all Fat Joe texts.

Speaker 1 Every time that nigga put his phone up.

Speaker 1 Damn, I wonder what Fat Joe would have done.

Speaker 1 If 50 would have slid you in Madison Square Gardener. If 50 would have hit.

Speaker 1 Take it out. Come on, take it off.

Speaker 1 I got you. I got you.
Come on. Come on.
But I had already had to. You had it played out, right?

Speaker 1 That's funny.

Speaker 1 Yo, this whole 50s shit, all this 50s shit did was show me just how many people

Speaker 1 are indeed waiting with bated breath.

Speaker 1 You get snuffed.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. They've seen that already.
Twice even.

Speaker 1 They've seen that before and somehow it's not enough.

Speaker 1 They want to see they, because my mom outfit. They want to see me take a beat down.
Punks jump up to get beat brand newbie and

Speaker 1 they want to see that.

Speaker 1 Somewhere with bright lights and cameras.

Speaker 1 They want to get the footage. They want a bad video of me, boy.
I wonder why. What if I said? You talk a lot of shit.
That's why. I do.
What it do. It's part of the job, man.

Speaker 1 I do talk a lot of shit, but the shit I be wanting to say is worse. You're too old to do what we told you to do before.
What? Which was just slide somebody.

Speaker 1 It don't matter. It don't matter.
I mean, I think that might help a little bit. It won't.
A little bit. It don't take away.
That might make it worse.

Speaker 1 A person that people think can't fight or be not with the bullshit. If you give him one little glimpse that you can really slide somebody, it might change the narrative.

Speaker 1 No, and you can't.

Speaker 1 It'll change the narrative that he cannot fight, but the other niggas still want to see him get his ass whipped. For sure.
It ain't going to stop that. You might raise it a little bit.
Yo, don't.

Speaker 1 Everybody wants to see Floyd get his ass whipped. Exactly.

Speaker 1 They know he can fight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is the narrative that you can't fight? I never heard that narrative. No, it's only Amani and my other friends that spread that.

Speaker 1 It's only my real friends that

Speaker 1 isn't that he can't fight. It might be, maybe, might be pussy or something.

Speaker 1 Wow, that clears it up. That makes it better.

Speaker 1 I think that's good. Man, thanks for joining the main show.

Speaker 1 Thanks for joining the main show, man. No, it's good to see you up here now.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 I would say

Speaker 1 I left the game a little early. Who won?

Speaker 1 You did.

Speaker 1 You did.

Speaker 1 Rap one, nigga. Yo, the fan.
The culture one.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God, yo. My last slide.
He tried to hit us with the game.

Speaker 1 It was a blowout, so I left. I didn't say it was a blowout.
You said it was decided to meet me. It wasn't close.
I said it was decided to meet. It wasn't.
Didn't they lose by six points? No, nigga.

Speaker 1 Yo, dog, they was one three away from us. He was close.
Tying the game up. He left with eight minutes left in the fourth game, five points away.
The car was out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's going to get more minutes every time I tell this story. The car was outside, right? No, so was Double Park.
We're talking home. So was the best.
It was halftime. So was Double Park.

Speaker 1 We didn't even eat the buffet. I know.
So was Double Park. You had reservations.
Yeah. The reservations.
That's what it is. The reservations are always good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, reservations are standing to the end of the game.

Speaker 1 I got to get out of here.

Speaker 1 Special strawberry man.

Speaker 1 That watermelon. Minnie gets you every time.
That's cool. I wanted to leave earlier than that, but I knew y'all niggas was stupid.
And that's what I said.

Speaker 1 I said to myself, all right, I think they putting me on TV.

Speaker 1 So they're just going to flash to this pan, to this empty seat, and then it's going to be jokes. With seven minutes left and a tight game in the playoffs.
That's your spectrum.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm respecting your celebrity, too.

Speaker 1 I ain't like to see that when they're doing the celebrity role shit

Speaker 1 and they did the 50 shit. I just had to see you in the back.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They probably threw him on the kiss cam and shit.

Speaker 1 He said he was in the kiss cam.

Speaker 1 That's funny. So.

Speaker 1 My bad. My bad.

Speaker 1 It's the rugby, though. Yo, that's funny, bro.

Speaker 1 He was waiting on the kiss cam.

Speaker 1 And they play pump it up. They play pump it up and all that.
They did for the

Speaker 1 public.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Well, one, we've long go established the garden don't fuck with me like that. Yo, you gotta hit that hard.
That's win. The garden don't fuck with me like that.
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Feet on the wood, make the back go.

Speaker 1 Oh, feet not on the wood. Carpet.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's shit.
I just want to tell anyone hate listening that I'm okay with my life.

Speaker 1 Pretty good seats. I see some niggas say, oh, look where he's sitting.

Speaker 1 Then I got to the seats and it was like, oh, shit. Look where he's sweating.
Hey, Josh Hart, let's go.

Speaker 1 I got to the seats and became an instant fucking groupie. Let's go, Mitch.

Speaker 1 Fuck are y'all talking about? Horrible seats. Did you see the game with 50 in front of you?

Speaker 1 Look, look.

Speaker 1 This is a sincere question. There's no shady today.
I'm just saying, a lot of times it looks like you, like when 50 slipped up the chair, it looked like you just had to ask him what happened.

Speaker 1 what's it like back then?

Speaker 1 I was able to see the game. Okay, okay.
I just wonder. Yo, I'm not even used to niggas playing with

Speaker 1 me. But you just got to take it.

Speaker 1 You just got to take it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They raise him up a little bit. Jooster shit.
Joe.

Speaker 1 It's like the movies.

Speaker 1 The funny part, right?

Speaker 1 Just in your natural assessment of things.

Speaker 1 when risk is involved, the garden security, when you're in that section,

Speaker 1 there is garden security right there to make sure you don't do nothing stupid around the players, right?

Speaker 1 At risk of being banned from the garden, let me tell you.

Speaker 1 In the event. You knew what every one of them niggas was.

Speaker 1 Come on. All I got to do is grab them.
All I got to do is grab them.

Speaker 1 Hey, Larry. Larry.

Speaker 1 GREAT, get this nigga. Made it off.

Speaker 1 Hey, in the event that 50 Cent decided to get angry in there, it wasn't nothing. None of them garden security dudes.
Damn, I want to joke. It's like the niggas at the

Speaker 1 fair that worked the roller coasters over there.

Speaker 1 They got Cardi's doing security. So if he decided to do something, yeah, I would have had to thug it out for a little while.

Speaker 1 It's like when I fought in fucking dream, that fight was going on forever before security came.

Speaker 1 It might have seemed like forever. No, it was forever.
I'm 10 days old, this nigga on the ground. Like, hey,

Speaker 1 somebody come get me. Any day y'all want to come get this nigga off me so I could get up would be awesome

Speaker 1 God, that's important in the fight.

Speaker 1 You ain't lying. You ain't lying.
And tucking that head. That was also the best possible place

Speaker 1 to run into him. That's true.
To see him in the event that it was something, because I know that that's the joke. I'm rolling with.
It was never nothing. But if it was something,

Speaker 1 what a good place. You know what I mean? Me, Billy Joel, Billy Crystal.

Speaker 1 All the bills. If you're going to do something to me in front of Billy Crystal, nigga, you just might got it.
You're bold, nigga. Yeah.
That's funny.

Speaker 1 It's good, though. That's good.
But I was safe for money. It's good, man.

Speaker 1 I love all my friends checking on me the next day. No, I stopped checking on you.
Why?

Speaker 1 After the last time I checked on this nigga, he was like, don't check on me. Ain't that what I said? You got it? Yeah, you did.
Ain't that what I said? You said that. So I stuck to your word.

Speaker 1 I know how to move, man. I know, I see.
I know how to move.

Speaker 1 Nigga, four of the games over there. We got to get it.

Speaker 1 Better learn how to bob and weave, nigga.

Speaker 1 My method is in prevention. You know what I mean? That nigga start hugging Sade real tight, right?

Speaker 1 I see that nigga like, nigga.

Speaker 1 Not in front of my kids. Not in front of my lady.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. It's always hard to do it.
It's always hard to keep me safe.

Speaker 1 Sade sit back there like she's ready for the smoke, too. That's how you fuck with Sade.
No, that's my baby, man. Salute.
We had a really sunset park.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious. That's funny, son.
That's hilarious. That's the kind of drunk you want to be.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Well, that means that they're expecting some dick that you might not be prepared to give, too. Oh, I hate that.
Yeah, you broke. You got to wave that out.
Just hope they pass out. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 She didn't.

Speaker 1 No, that's where you got to go. That's cool with the toy.
You want to smoke? You want to smoke?

Speaker 1 Good night.

Speaker 1 What? Directly to bed. Don't pass, go.
Yeah, the toy was charged up.

Speaker 1 Gay, but the deuce, dude.

Speaker 1 We

Speaker 1 got a new cabin.

Speaker 1 A little toy finger combo.

Speaker 1 I'm going to bed. I'm going to bed.
And I got to work tomorrow. Bitches don't be having jobs, too.

Speaker 1 They want to fuck too. Four in the morning.
Girl, get off of me.

Speaker 1 Anyway.

Speaker 1 But I am safe. Where y'all want to go?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, that's funny.

Speaker 1 Just to get serious for a second, some sad news, obviously, for those that care. I know some Catholics are here, Imani being one of them.
That's true.

Speaker 1 I'm a retired Catholic. Yeah, and I understand.
Yeah, retire. Your Catholic sweaters.

Speaker 1 You still wear it. You do look mad Catholic right now.
She do look like Jesus

Speaker 1 Saints in Latter-day

Speaker 1 Scott. Mr.
Rogers. This is my probation sweater.
She looks like Westchester Catholic.

Speaker 1 You got the little crest on your side. Yeah, nigga.
All you need is a WC right here on the pocket. I'm repping for my guy, Pope Francis, today, man.
Oh, okay. Oh, yeah.
She got the cross out, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's like an upstanding.
The cross, what was he? Wrestling. This is the one with the ashes, too.
Wait, you you took your mom off your thing?

Speaker 1 It's my mom. My mom's a motherfucker.
So you took your dad off?

Speaker 1 No, my mom. You got two different chains.
You took somebody. Somebody.
I have two different chains. The other one got the spinach.
The one spins. Yeah, the spinner on the bottom.

Speaker 1 You put the spinner in the drawer.

Speaker 1 You took the spinner.

Speaker 1 Did you drop it to the floor?

Speaker 1 Nigga, fucking spinner. How do you decide which ashes you're going to? All right, never mind.
All right, Mark. Pope Francis passed away on Easter Monday

Speaker 1 after a long

Speaker 1 bout with illness.

Speaker 1 You know, for a lot of people around the world, the Pope symbolizes so much.

Speaker 1 He is one of the most progressive popes we've ever seen. True.

Speaker 1 You know, no religious leader is going to be so progressive. There's some conservative stuff with everybody.
But when you start talking about

Speaker 1 health care, housing, even what's going on in Gaza, Pope Francis is calling over there every day to the hospitals in Gaza, checking on folks.

Speaker 1 I don't think we've seen a more progressive pope than Pope Francis. And

Speaker 1 I don't know if he'll be replaced by one like that, but he is a symbol and a model of what religious leadership can look like for a lot of people.

Speaker 1 I got a lot of critiques of the Catholic Church, but at this moment of mourning, I just want to send love and condolences to all the religious believers around the world for whom this is a devastating moment.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're the best at this. Yeah, you're the best at this.
Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 I used to have never got that off.

Speaker 1 So eloquently. We used to send some prayers and play some gap bands.
That's about it. But, okay.
Play Oppen Maria, man. Oh, yeah, no.
Rest in peace to the Pope.

Speaker 1 On the news, they were showing me the seven options for the replacement. I was looking at that shit like the house of cards, boy.
They were explaining who each person was and their views. And

Speaker 1 one of them dudes, the Hungarian nigga, oh shit. If you get it.

Speaker 1 Oh, rest in peace to Pope France. Is he the Pope or the Trumps? He's the Trump or the Pope?

Speaker 1 The way that they described him was like, what was Trump's old vice president name? Oh, Mike Pence. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, that fits with the Catholic model. Oh, man, this guy.

Speaker 1 Why did everybody keep saying that J.D. Vance had gone to see him like a day before or a few days before? Well, he had.

Speaker 1 But why was that so important to share? Were they trying to fucking fucking with him? Say like he sucked it, killed him. He sucked his soul out.
And after that,

Speaker 1 Francis was ready to go back to the Lord.

Speaker 1 It was a lot of black people making him jokes, too. You know what I mean? They were quality jokes, I gotta say.

Speaker 1 I feel like part of being black is making some good, good inappropriate jokes oh yeah that's the best time to make jokes that's yeah yeah man kind of i had a couple but his were way too mature his his speech was too mature so i chilled

Speaker 1 i chilled um yeah the i the idea that there could be a black pope is also something that people have been juggling around that i don't think it's gonna happen in our lifetime i just don't think that it will it will you think so i believe so i believe so

Speaker 1 why

Speaker 1 we saw a black president i don't think the the we voted for that

Speaker 1 Well, it's true. I don't think the Vatican is that far away from.
If they got this progressive, I do think we could potentially see it as something.

Speaker 1 They haven't even agreed on the whole touch and kids thing yet. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Agreed? I'm just saying, like, they haven't resolved that. Like, there's so much corruption in these religious institutions, and there's also a lot of racism in them.
And the idea...

Speaker 1 And I'm saying this about all religions. I'm not just saying Catholics.
All religious institutions. I'm watching the Ad Money just flying.
Yeah, I'm trying to say that. You know what?

Speaker 1 Let's take that back. Make a laugh, nigga.

Speaker 1 Add money.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? I will not be responsible for that. And

Speaker 1 this is exactly who I want to get my Vatican news from, Amani.

Speaker 1 Yo, hey, with pardon, sometimes niggas just start talking about shit that is like...

Speaker 1 Maybe not your wheelhouse. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's fine. Gonna put Amani and a Muslim.

Speaker 1 Gotta break it down.

Speaker 1 That's funny, though.

Speaker 1 That's funny. Oh, well, all right.
What else?

Speaker 1 What else is important? What else is important out there?

Speaker 1 I know we don't like to talk Kanye a lot.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, this is important. But this one felt, and again, it seems perfect after what we just talked about.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 1 What? What?

Speaker 1 Karen, keep going.

Speaker 1 Kanye put out that song, Cousin.

Speaker 1 That nobody heard.

Speaker 1 Nobody knows that this is a song. Right.
Nobody has bully.

Speaker 1 Nobody.

Speaker 1 The trick didn't work this time as far as the music is concerned. I don't think that he could just name a song title and people be like, oh, okay, yeah, that's what's going on in that song.
Right.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think a lot of people knew. But go ahead.
So he puts out this song. I'm trying to pull up the lyrics.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he says.

Speaker 1 And trigger warning for anybody who has.

Speaker 1 Definitely trigger warning. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He said, hanging with my cousin, reading dirty magazines. We seen some niggas kissing.
We ain't know what that shit mean.

Speaker 1 Then we start reenacting everything that we had seen. That's when I gave my cousin head, gave my cousin head, gave my cousin head.
I gave my cousin head. I gave my cousin head.
Q stops in.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think it's important to note that he didn't slip that in as a line. He wanted that to be.

Speaker 1 He wanted that to be. I want you to know: I heard the song.
Fit slap.

Speaker 1 That's on brand.

Speaker 1 Of course, Imani heard the song.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 I needed to to understand: was this being said like in like a therapeutic way or something? It's hard. Like, you should not hear this song.
Was there melodies underneath it?

Speaker 1 It's auto-tuned of him singing. I gave him a mad.
I gave him a head. Yo, let me ask you a question.
Oh, no. Now you sold me.

Speaker 1 No, that's a clip by the way. Now you sold me.
Nigga, he's going to be on the internet forever with that shit.

Speaker 1 It's hard, we all. How do you metaphorically

Speaker 1 use head to personify something else?

Speaker 1 This nigga would not let YG give for two weeks.

Speaker 1 YG couldn't be a victim for two weeks before Kanye said, you know what?

Speaker 1 I need in on that. That's one.
Two, which really should have been one, I got to say,

Speaker 1 for me,

Speaker 1 this is the greatest,

Speaker 1 oh,

Speaker 1 that explains it. That I've ever come across.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yo, if anybody out there at any time says, yo,

Speaker 1 when I was young, I sucked my cousin Dick until I was 14. I'm going to say,

Speaker 1 oh,

Speaker 1 that explains some things.

Speaker 1 Anything you do after that, it probably explains some things. Yeah, like I think that Kanye really exonerated,

Speaker 1 dog.

Speaker 1 First of all, I'm sorry that that happened to Kanye, and I want to treat his cousin. And his cousin.

Speaker 1 He molested his cousin. Wait, who is he molesting his cousin?

Speaker 1 He's the molester in the city. He's the molester in the situation.

Speaker 1 The cousin is younger than me. Just because you get in the head don't mean you're not getting molested.

Speaker 1 We got a lot of. The cousin's younger.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought it was his older cousin. No.
Kanye was the older cousin in this situation doing this to his younger cousin. I don't have no idea.
He's got a lot of Japan.

Speaker 1 It's important to read the second verse, too, because this is what Kanye's talking about in the interview or on his tweets, which he elaborated on.

Speaker 1 He said, I know these niggas are about to judge me now. Check.
Started off when we was hanging out. Told my cousin not to tell nobody.
Please tell me.

Speaker 1 People tell me, take it to my grave. Truth will set you free someday.
I don't think they understand that I'm not attracted to a man. Now, this cousin, for context,

Speaker 1 is in jail for murder, murdering a pregnant woman, allegedly, that's according to Kanye. And he believes

Speaker 1 that perhaps what he did to his cousin, what happened with him and his cousin, contributed to the path that his cousin took.

Speaker 1 So, this is about, and to me, when I hear this, this is Kanye as an abuser, Kanye as male. Of course, if you're a kid, y'all both going through some fucked up shit.

Speaker 1 They all fucked up, but the cousin was the victim here.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 A lot of people are sending it. There's so much to unpack here.
A lot of people are sending words of sympathy and, you know, to where to, to, no, to Kanye. I'm like, he's not.

Speaker 1 I mean, don't get me wrong, he is a victim because of the age, but the person who's really the victim in this situation is the cousin. We need to be speaking to that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he's probably blindsided in prison. And who the hell want, like, I didn't want you to go ahead and tell that story.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, you mind your own business in the child hall. Somebody say, hey, I heard Kanye was sucking your dick.
You'd be like, you got some splaining to do.

Speaker 1 Or not. Or not.

Speaker 1 Or a nigga might have been sucking his cousin dick when he heard this to me. That's where your skills do.
Oh, that's where your skills came from? Oh.

Speaker 1 I don't even feel right making jokes about this. I don't.

Speaker 1 There's nothing to joke about. No.

Speaker 1 And Kanye has displayed some behavior deserving of some adjectives. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is going to sound fucked up to say, and I probably shouldn't say it, but I'm going to say it anyway.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for the day where we can really have a real honest conversation about Kanye when he is not able to give us any more stories.

Speaker 1 All right. That sounds horrible to say.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry I'm saying it like that, but I'm just saying

Speaker 1 I want to be able to give a real honest opinion on a positive and a negative side. And I feel like I'm.

Speaker 1 Adding fuel to the fire. Adding fuel to the fire.

Speaker 1 And I feel like the more that he just keeps doing things, we never really get a chance to have a real honest conversation about how we feel about Kanye and some of the things he's done.

Speaker 1 Like, we like we have this love for his music and this love for some of the things he's done in the past, and we kind of keep trailing with it.

Speaker 1 Who's we? Well, the general general pop. I'm not saying I don't think so.
I'm not saying us. I'm just saying

Speaker 1 me having a conversation about him today is becoming difficult because every time I try to give him a certain level of grace or understanding, something else pops up, and I'm now back to like ground zero with him.

Speaker 1 That's just where I'm at. The one thing that's been disturbing about this tweet and song is that so many more people were okay with the Nazi shit, but then when the sucking dick came out,

Speaker 1 they were like, nah, this is where I draw the line.

Speaker 1 Like, what? Right.

Speaker 1 I agree. The sucking dick part is the minor part of the whole shit.
We talking about incest and we talking about molestation. Yeah.
Like that part. At the end of the day.
So

Speaker 1 that's the other part of this conference that's bothering me. Like, yo, you niggas don't understand.
This is some serious shit. And he's choosing to go go to Twitter and put this in a.

Speaker 1 You have to hear the song just for you to understand why I'm saying that. It doesn't even come off like a sincere thing of, like, I feel fucked up at what I did.
Like, he's harmonizing.

Speaker 1 I don't want to harmonize over I gave my cousin head. Right.
But if it needs a harm,

Speaker 1 the fucking little blank.

Speaker 1 It's like, come on, Kanye. Man, the slap for the slap.
Sometimes you got to have some.

Speaker 1 You got to approach some sincere shit in a sincere way if you really sincerely. He did always have that defined jawline.

Speaker 1 When he was singing that ego remix, y'all felt like it was.

Speaker 1 He was just

Speaker 1 nasty.

Speaker 1 Was you real?

Speaker 1 What if Yate's shit

Speaker 1 was heat?

Speaker 1 Joe.

Speaker 1 What if Yate was the fire head bustle?

Speaker 1 That's disgusting.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 It just made me look at some shit differently now. That's all.
Anyway,

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I hope he gets helped. Prayers to all.
I hope everybody that needs help gets the help that they need and deserve. And hopefully does it in places other than tweets and songs that people don't hear.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and podcasts. And podcasts.
There's a lot of places that the therapy and help doesn't need to be. Podcasts, tweets.

Speaker 1 I think Nick's off him.

Speaker 1 I think he's

Speaker 1 starving for some level of attention.

Speaker 1 And the masses are starting not to be. There was like four inappropriate jokes right in that one sentence.
And I'm just leaving it alone. It's tough to be mature right now.
It really is. It really is.

Speaker 1 It really is, man.

Speaker 1 Easter.

Speaker 1 First of all,

Speaker 1 are y'all Easter followers, Easter people? Do y'all do Easter stuff? It's a pagan, huh?

Speaker 1 Okay, okay. So no Easter egg hunting.
Happy Resurrection Day. Who can afford eggs right now?

Speaker 1 Try to get the plastic shits.

Speaker 1 420 was celebrating. 420.
My family is Christian, so they celebrate it. You're going to afford the weed, but not the eggs.
Yeah. The weed's cheaper than the eggs.
It's my fellow right now. It is.

Speaker 1 For sure. I didn't partake.
I don't. It doesn't hit the same

Speaker 1 like it used to as a kid. Tradition is just dumbed down.
You can throw out no fly shit. Just,

Speaker 1 you know, back then you used to throw on pastel shit. Right.
That's what we used to do. Just go to church, go to the egg, Easter egg, hunt shit.

Speaker 1 It's not around anymore.

Speaker 1 So it was Easter. It was 420.
It's also Luther Vandros' birthday.

Speaker 1 I'm assuming y'all are going to be good about the the latter. But do y'all do 420 shit? I definitely did 420 shit.
I know you don't. My friend owns a weed farm and a dispensary upstate.

Speaker 1 That's where I was. So they had a little party.
I got ripped. You was plucking your own weeds? No, it's not grown yet.
It's early in the season. Salute to

Speaker 1 Wizard's. I smoked some of that on 420.
I was fucked up. Really? Yeah, that's too strong for me.
I can't smoke that. I can't smoke that.
But yeah, 420, I got twisted.

Speaker 1 It was. Nah, it it hit.

Speaker 1 Like, too much.

Speaker 1 You scared? You're scared? Nigga, I turned into a bunny.

Speaker 1 I'm no more.

Speaker 1 No more. Uh-uh.
Give me the mid.

Speaker 1 You got to be careful where you turn into a bunny at, man. Were you in a safe place? Hold on.
Good. Do that shit in the house.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's it.
I ain't saying nothing about it. Don't be at that church.
The second I got old enough to tell my mom, I'm not going to church with you, my G,

Speaker 1 that was over for Easter.

Speaker 1 It was no more Easter. That might have been...
Ninth grade. Yeah, 14.
Yeah, 15.

Speaker 1 It was like, you know what? I'm not going to keep going. The shit that you make me.
New Year's Eve in church. Ah, Rap City.
It's a rap for that.

Speaker 1 The rap for that. Christmas tree going up.
I deded that one. I wasn't with none of that shit growing up.
Damn. Did you get festive again, like with your own kids or with your lady?

Speaker 1 Like, do y'all do like the holiday stuff? You know, that's where it's interesting, right? Like, I'll get festive. I'm like, I'll buy gifts on Christmas.

Speaker 1 I'm not running around saying I don't celebrate Christmas, but I'm not into the other Christmas tree and all of the bells and whistles of it. And I'm going to have to clean it up.

Speaker 1 Like I said, I know people still with their fucking Christmas tree up right now. Yeah, I've just, my understanding of holidays and where they come from and why they're there was just,

Speaker 1 I'm off that. Not to say the name of the church, but your mom still go to the same church? No, my mom goes to a different church.
No, okay.

Speaker 1 When our pastor died, we stopped going to that church along with a lot of of other people. Rest in peace to Revron.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't mind being a part of a church like that. You came to church with us, right? I did.
I did. And came to a couple of the churches.

Speaker 1 You know how much Jesus I had to felt like you needed to think.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, my G.

Speaker 1 What you doing Sundays? Yo, nah.

Speaker 1 I don't ask niggas to come to church with me. You know how much saving I felt like needed to be thrown your way, man? Oh, man.
And you left the church and just behaved the same. Nah.

Speaker 1 I needed that. That was around the time my dad passed.
Nah, you held me down? I'm talking shit. You held me down.
I didn't go back after that. Rev Ron's dope, though.
Huh? He was dope.

Speaker 1 Nah, he was, no, amazing. He was

Speaker 1 himself. So, like, if I had a church like that when Rev Ron was around, I would definitely go there.

Speaker 1 There was some level of still tradition and it felt like family. So if I had something like that.
I could see you in there. Nah,

Speaker 1 it was amazing. Was that a mega church? Nah.

Speaker 1 It wasn't a mega church.

Speaker 1 Rev Ron, this was in Irvington. It was a church that the niggas went to.
It was in Irving.

Speaker 1 He was one of us. Got you.
Like, I remember I went to,

Speaker 1 he was on a pulpit, and somebody had walked behind him. He was like, yo, dog, I don't really like niggas walking behind me.

Speaker 1 So everybody laughed it off.

Speaker 1 He kept on. And dude walked behind me.
He like, yo, fam, for real. I don't like people walking behind me.
Yo, I was locked up. My state number is boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 1 And I had some stuff happen happen to me when people walked behind me. Could you stop walking behind me? Oh, shit.
Yeah, Ron's story was locked up.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, he said his state number on the pulpit, bro. Damn.
Nah, he was amazing. He was amazing.
And just welcoming to all

Speaker 1 pimps, hustlers, scammers, murderers. Anybody could come in.
No telling who you was going to see in your church. along with all the seniors.

Speaker 1 That's what I love and respect, man. You get religious leaders like, oh, I already know.
50. Yeah, I already know.
It's Jews. It's crazy.
It's probably like a let out. But i

Speaker 1 that's what we need more of unfortunately we're moving toward the mega church model where everybody has 20 you know 25 000 members and everybody's giving a lot of black community

Speaker 1 yeah there's a lot of black megachurch it's a lot of black south no there's a few out here

Speaker 1 new york yeah new york brooklyn has a couple of and a lot of the smaller ones are trying to be bigger they operate yeah they get the production value of a of a mega exactly and they're hoping to grow to 25 000 because that's how you get that's how you get the bread yeah that's how you get the bread.

Speaker 1 And it's not just that they have a lot of people. It's that their actual message is different.
They do word faith, prosperity gospels. Like, you're rich.
I'm rich because God made me rich.

Speaker 1 And if you want to get rich, the pastor got to get rich.

Speaker 1 And that becomes the model. Like Creflo Dollar and all them talking about, you know, the Lord wants me to have a jet.
Wow.

Speaker 1 People buy into that shit.

Speaker 1 People buy into it. So that's what they get.

Speaker 1 You disagree? Yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, but you said nobody should be a billionaire. Which he stated here.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You said what? But you don't feel nobody should be a billionaire. Yeah, but I also don't think you should go to poor people and tell them to give you your money.

Speaker 1 Even if I believed in billionaires, I wouldn't want it on the backs of poor people. All right, so let's just say he considers what he's doing the Lord's work.
I don't think he does.

Speaker 1 And let's just say,

Speaker 1 because he's a global, he's a global

Speaker 1 past state. I don't believe that.
I think he's a hustler. I think he's full of shit.
I'm allowed to say that.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm not saying every PGA.
I'm talking about that one in particular. Creflo.
Yes. I mean, he got dollars in his name.
Yeah, and he was trained by Fred Price, who also, again, interesting name.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 prosperity gospel, right? Anybody tells people that the only way to show that you have faith is to get rich

Speaker 1 and being rich is what is a tested sign of your faith, to me, is bullshit. And it's dangerous.
I'm asking nothing wrong with being rich.

Speaker 1 But if you're telling a bunch of poor people who are giving you their last dollars and you're going to, he doesn't say this, but you're going to hell if you don't tithe, or, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 The only way, all that shit, man, you're exploiting the people. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 The less black people you see. Damon Wayne.

Speaker 1 Money brings you into a new category.

Speaker 1 You move to a different house in a different neighborhood and you get different friends, your money people that come around you to help you make the money and maintain your money and make more money.

Speaker 1 The complexion changes, you know what I mean? I like that. That's what I love about like LeBron.

Speaker 1 You know, he's got

Speaker 1 Mab and he got Randy and he got rich. Yeah.
Yeah. So he kept that group.
Yes. For sure.

Speaker 1 And that's not the money clip I'm looking for. It is a football player that was talking about, I saved it, I don't know where it is.
Just talking about how

Speaker 1 he don't care about money and don't need all of the extra money like to Mark's point about it should be no billionaires he was just like the amount of money I have is enough for anything I want to do and need to do and I don't have a desire because the more money that you make the more you're asked

Speaker 1 to do things and the more you're tasked with and it can make life unmanageable unhappy it just comes with some other things i saved it because it was real interesting for patreon i can't find it now but whatever

Speaker 1 Like, how much money do each of y'all need to make in your life? I'm going to ask Mark because he doesn't believe in any of that billionaire shit. I need a number, though.
All right, so

Speaker 1 I'd be good with 50. 50 million.
50 billion? That's all I need.

Speaker 1 Liquid, I'm talking about. Lifetime.
Like, if you made 50 million in your lifetime. No, he's saying if he 50 million.

Speaker 1 If I could put my hands on 50 million at any given time, I'd be more. Oh, you need a bulk.
Liquid. Liquid, yeah.

Speaker 1 Because you're talking about investments in houses, values, you know, I'm talking about, like, that would be enough money that I would need.

Speaker 1 But if you, you know, if I said net worth of 50 million, I'd be fine. I'd be fine.

Speaker 1 Actually, probably less than that. 25 million, I'd even say.
How many?

Speaker 1 Mine's really, really, maybe 10. Like 10K.

Speaker 1 10 mil, 10 mil.

Speaker 1 You said I'd pay cash out of this ultimate. Yo, in all honesty, I would want to at least make enough to where I can pass down to my kids.

Speaker 1 At this point, I'm not really concerned with the aspect of how much money I personally have for myself. Ish.

Speaker 1 Ashley, I'm going to save you for last parts.

Speaker 1 10 million would be more than enough than than I would ever need, honestly. I'd probably be cool with having 5 million.

Speaker 1 Ish.

Speaker 1 I don't have a number. I think.

Speaker 1 I think that as your experiences grow and as your money grows, then your spending grows.

Speaker 1 I think that when you get 10, 10 is not going to be enough for you no more. That's true.
Because right now, Parks are out of E-Class. If Parks had $10 million, Parks don't have an E-Class no more.

Speaker 1 Parks might go get something bigger that costs more. Parks' house that he wants right now, he might want a bigger house.
That's true.

Speaker 1 Parks, what he does for his family, his mother, his father, his sisters might change with all of that money. Like if you put your money, you'll buy your sister a crib.
You buy your mother a crib.

Speaker 1 Your nieces get college funds put away and all of that shit. It just depletes what you already have because those things are now options for you.
So I think the more money you get,

Speaker 1 you find ways to spend it. Now, the obscene amount of money is like the money we're talking about with Elon and them.
Them niggas don't have that amount of money liquid, to Mark's point.

Speaker 1 Like Mark's saying, 50 million liquid. If you got 50 million liquid, your net worth might be 200, 300 million dollars.
Yeah. Antoine, can you just participate?

Speaker 1 I don't got, I don't have a number, maybe.

Speaker 1 I like you right about what you're saying. But can you just, if you had to say a number and it came and that was the only number you had to lift?

Speaker 1 Give me a liquid number.

Speaker 1 A liquid

Speaker 1 30, 40 million.

Speaker 1 Like 40 million. Liquid.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel like if I made any more than $10 million, I would be doing a lot of charity. I don't know what I would need that much money for.

Speaker 1 Personally. It's probably not good to say because they do say you manifest.
I don't think I'm supposed to have that much liquid. I agree.

Speaker 1 Me personally. I definitely don't think you should have

Speaker 1 that much liquid.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. I don't think dangerous man.
Yeah, I don't think so. I think nice, safe, comfortable space, live in, happy, cool.
Anything more, I might bug out.

Speaker 1 I think when you get to 10 million, to ish's point, I don't think you'd be doing charity just yet because things do, like,

Speaker 1 if you have 10 and then you buy a house that costs, say, three. Right, right.
Just take care of that house is going, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Now, if you're very conservative and you save your money, you can live off the interest, things like that. But 10 million is not enough money to

Speaker 1 start giving stuff away. 50, I think you can start giving some stuff away.
You can start being real generous.

Speaker 1 See, and even

Speaker 1 having conversation goes, I can see how there's people out there that hear these talks and be like, I'm going to find a way to insert myself in some shit. And

Speaker 1 if I are foul.

Speaker 1 And two-part question. And has your number changed?

Speaker 1 Since when? Since five years ago.

Speaker 1 I never asked myself this question because I was never, I'm not the money guy. I just can't say that here, but I'm not, I don't care about no money.
It's changed.

Speaker 1 Because at one point, I remember having a conversation with you, right?

Speaker 1 At one point, you're like, yo, if I get 50, I'm good. 50 what? 1,000.

Speaker 1 50,000 a month. Like, you like, yo, if I could get to 50K a month.
Oh, I've said that before. I said that on air.
I said that on air. That's all I need is 50K a month.
On air. Boy, was I wrong.

Speaker 1 Turns out, hey, listen, I couldn't have been any more wrong about that. But that's how I felt.
To the average,

Speaker 1 there's nothing in the world. That's why I don't say that anymore.
There's nothing in the world that I can't accomplish that I would quote unquote need with 50K a month.

Speaker 1 A lot of people feel like that. Most people feel like that.
Yeah. And so now when you get 50K a month, you can see how that shit go.
Yeah, but if

Speaker 1 your goals change, you start to partake in more things, yeah, that number's going to have to change. Like if you want to just work for your 50K, and that's cool.

Speaker 1 But if you want to own some shit, build up your own network, then yeah, I can see how that number would have to increase.

Speaker 1 True, but you got to have enough. No, I'm talking about you making 50K, like net, you netting 50K.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? Outside of your expenses, whatever your expenses are, you can just go home with 50K. Niggas think that that's enough money until they get 50K.
Because it is.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna hold you, nigga. When my driver went to Africa for two weeks,

Speaker 1 she was hurting.

Speaker 1 Nigga, I had to drive a second. That shit poor fellow.
That shit fell with a section eight. Man.
That's fucked up. I had to drive a a couple hundred thousand dollar cars.

Speaker 1 And got a ticket.

Speaker 1 In the Ferrari? I don't even know. No, nigga.
Just in a normal car.

Speaker 1 The Rose. The normal car.
Normal. No, no, I'm not joking.

Speaker 1 No, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is

Speaker 1 the ticket world has changed since my last time driving. They needed to pull you over to give you a ticket before.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, they just bailed. No, no, it's just Bill.
Yeah. Nigga, they mailed me some shit.
You're doing 35 and a 25. You got to get a shit.
And it was a school district.

Speaker 1 They sent me the video. You can't even lie.
It's you.

Speaker 1 I was cruel, Jack.

Speaker 1 They talk about, and the school district, nigga, it's Sunday. Yeah.
My girl got one of them this weekend, actually, and they sent the video. It was like on Queens Boulevard.

Speaker 1 So I was like, what school is right there? Ain't no school. It's a highway.
Yeah, I never want to drive again. School anyway.
I never want to drive again.

Speaker 1 But if I made whatever y'all talking about, a few things have to go. Like Martha has to go.
The driver has to go. I could do it.
It would just be miserable. Miserable.

Speaker 1 What's the ideal number? What's the number where you could be like, I'm good?

Speaker 1 Basically, play our game. Participate.

Speaker 1 If I'm just freestyling

Speaker 1 and this number is going to hold me over till death,

Speaker 1 yeah, I could see

Speaker 1 500 million.

Speaker 1 I think you could make do. Yeah, I think you can make that happen.
Tighten your belt a little bit. But it's not for me.
It's for my kids.

Speaker 1 It's for the estate at this point. Nothing I do is for me.

Speaker 1 It's all for the estate.

Speaker 1 So you would need 500 million to hold you down till you pass? I mean, the word estate

Speaker 1 to me says it should be more than $3,500 in there.

Speaker 1 I know when I was estate planning and I was before I knew what he was doing, and I still don't all the way know I need to call him again because it's a long process but when I was telling him what I would like to leave everybody

Speaker 1 I had more than that and didn't know

Speaker 1 does everybody get the same amount all kids get the same amount

Speaker 1 how about for y'all but you're saying kids my kids yes okay but I got brothers I got sisters I got fucking cousins I got other people that I'm

Speaker 1 and and that's the part that I'm talking talking about right now where we are

Speaker 1 in,

Speaker 1 well, not us,

Speaker 1 where we are in life,

Speaker 1 that's not an option for you because you don't got 20 million. You don't got 30 million.
Your nieces and taking care of your nieces and your nephews is not an option for you.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm saying when you get 10 mil, that 10 mil will run away like that because other things open up. Well, the more money you make, the more people you feel obligated to take care of.

Speaker 1 You have the option to do it. For most people, you got the option to do it.
I could imagine it being like that.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I feel differently about the legacy piece of it and the estate part of it. I mean, I want to leave my kids' stuff, but I don't feel the need to leave them.
I'm more like the way Warren Buffett is.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, he had a gajillion dollars, and he left him a very conservative amount relative to what he had. And the rest of it he gave away to the world.

Speaker 1 To the world, huh? He ain't dead. I know.
He wanted to do it while he was alive. He's saying, and I believe them niggas be talking.
Sometimes I check up on, well, actually, recently I asked my dad

Speaker 1 where Bailey's money went. Bailey is a

Speaker 1 bad friend who hit the pilot for like $300 million or something like that.

Speaker 1 And he passed. I didn't like the answer.

Speaker 1 Like he wasn't all the way together, so it's probably with attorneys. The state of New Yorkers and shit.
Shit like that. And

Speaker 1 that's just a sad thought. It's different.
And for us, especially being black. And rest in peace, Bailey.
Black people won't be. Yo, when you start sitting down with them lawyers,

Speaker 1 your mortality starts to be a certainty that a lot of people don't want to think about. That's for sure.
Especially for blacks. You know what I'm saying? I hate it.

Speaker 1 My aunt just passed away, rest in peace. And

Speaker 1 so now, you know, my mother and my aunt, they was like sisters. That's a conversation you got to have with your mom.
No, they were sisters. No, it's my great aunt.
Oh, okay, great.

Speaker 1 But they was like close in age. Oh, God.
So they was like... No, no, no.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. My mom and my aunt was like sisters.
No, no, no. It's my great aunt, but they was close in age.
And so those are conversations that you got to start having with moms.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, where do you want to be buried? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what's some bullshit. Like, that is a conversation you don't want to have.
That's what I did with my sisters. Just

Speaker 1 everything is on them. If I pass before them, they administer everything.

Speaker 1 You control what gets to my kids. Because I just trust that they're going to do the right thing.
They'll divide your state up. I don't care.
Y'all go handle it with that.

Speaker 1 And then if my, you know, my oldest son gets to a certain age where he can show that he can go ahead and do it, then I would change things at that point.

Speaker 1 But moving forward, my sisters, hold everything down. I was thinking about

Speaker 1 this Roddy Rich. The reason I say this is about the kids and how you treat different kids is because of this Roddy Rich

Speaker 1 Easter controversy. Did y'all see this thing? No.
Where he

Speaker 1 Roddy Rich got in trouble for posting, he took an Easter pic with one of his children. Sure.

Speaker 1 But he didn't take a picture with his other child who apparently is autistic. Oh, that's good.
Hold for

Speaker 1 that. That's what I I wanted to ask Joe, because Joe was the one who first hit me to this.

Speaker 1 See, this is the picture that went out of Roddy Rich and his daughter.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Beautiful picture. Yeah, it's a great picture.
Amazing picture.

Speaker 1 But apparently, let me see here. All right, I'm going to read Roddy Rich's response to this first.

Speaker 1 He says, this will be my first and last and only time discussing this matter. Yes, I included my son in the photo shoot of my daughter's first Easter and first time in LA.

Speaker 1 No, my son did not want to take pictures due to overstimulation.

Speaker 1 Yes, my son is autistic. No, I do not love my son any less.
Yes, I've been ridiculed and slandered through social media. No, I do not feel I am obligated to explain myself to complete strangers.

Speaker 1 Yes, I threw my son a birthday party yesterday with my entire family present. No, I did not share the moment online because it was also the second time my kids were in the same setting.

Speaker 1 Yes, I provide for both of my kids. No, I do not give a fuck if you believe it.
No,

Speaker 1 I do not complain about my responsibilities. Yes, I am tired of this situation.
Happy Easter.

Speaker 1 And this came because his son's mother saw that picture and was like, yo, you didn't post a picture of our son. Are you ashamed? What's going on?

Speaker 1 So she said, and I quote, yes, your son was a part of a shoot that was never announced as navy's first easter you said it was because you wanted to take pictures with both of your kids for easter yes my son was overstimulated because you took two hours to get a haircut and your makeup done yes there were pictures taken with my son but because he wasn't standing there posing like a robot and instead being himself he wasn't included Regardless, your son celebrated his fifth birthday and just got a text that said, happy birthday, son.

Speaker 1 Yes, he had a joint B-Day party yesterday with his cousin. Yes, you showed up four hours late and stayed for an hour and didn't come by your son until it was time to leave and you wanted a picture.

Speaker 1 Yes, I've had my son every single day since last year, regardless of a court order. If you're going to tell the story, tell the whole thing.

Speaker 1 That got mad. It's intense.
Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot of, I don't think the whole world should know it information.

Speaker 1 I hate this. You know what, though, what I find in recent years is that the kid's birthday is when some shit could pop up if there's shit to pop up.
I agree with you. I don't think it should.

Speaker 1 But like we saw with Kanye and Kim, not that he's the greatest example, but there are examples where on the kid's birthday, if all is not right, it could go away. True.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yo, thank you to

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 parents who are able to go ahead and just keep some of this shit off the fucking internet.

Speaker 1 Like, as much as I sit back and I complained about a lot of the stuff that I went through with with my son's moms, I'm so happy that today we can just get on the phone.

Speaker 1 And if we have a problem, just talk some shit out and never feel like we got to tweet or Instagram some stupid shit just out of nothing. Like you both love your kids.

Speaker 1 Why the fuck you taking this shit to the internet? Like he has every right to do what he wanted to do.

Speaker 1 He shouldn't have to go explain this now to the rest of the world because you felt the way about something that could have been a phone call. Right.

Speaker 1 Like we don't need to always be a part of y'all group chat shit. Ever.
Leave us out of this shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I shouldn't even have to have a judgment based upon why he didn't want to put his son in the picture. That's his business.
Amani is absolutely right, but I love reading y'all's business.

Speaker 1 When it's funny, that's the problem. Is this what is not funny business? Right.
So then you get all, you watch it.

Speaker 1 I read this stuff and I just get anxious because it just takes you to all these different places and it frustrates me because,

Speaker 1 first of all, I understand why people don't post their children on social media. Words.
Yes. I completely get why.
And for a long time, I didn't.

Speaker 1 Because of these types of conversations.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 audiences, fans, the public, whatever, make a lot of assumptions about your life based on what they see in that picture. And they get not just judgmental, but they get invested.
And I remember

Speaker 1 it was maybe like six months ago when I had posted a picture of my daughter. I think she, I don't know what it was, something she did something, right?

Speaker 1 Maybe she, I don't know, turned 21, whatever, maybe it was more recent than that.

Speaker 1 One of those weirdo fake accounts started hacking me. Mark has another daughter that he's ashamed of that he never takes care of, never mentions, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 Because I guess they had, they do internet weirdo stalker shit and realize that i had another child and a grandchild you know and these two grandchildren right um and so because they i had never told that story about me just meeting her until i was here a couple weeks ago yeah they made all kinds of assumptions that i was being a shitty dad and that i was somehow ashamed of this other girl and that i was a deadb as opposed to the exact opposite being the case right right

Speaker 1 But they they were trying to start a kind of campaign again, you know what I mean? They were almost trying to not blackmail me out.

Speaker 1 It wasn't that strong, but they were definitely trying to kind of apply pressure on me because they they don't fucking know.

Speaker 1 And so when I see that thing of Roddy Rich, I'm like, I don't know if his child's mind could be right. He could be, I don't know, but I know enough to know that I don't know.

Speaker 1 So I'm not going to go on the internet and slander him, attack him, say he's a bad. I mean, I saw the attacks that he got.
I didn't know that

Speaker 1 the mother responded, but I saw the attacks he got, and I'm like, we don't know enough to have an opinion on his life. At all.

Speaker 1 And this is why people should just, again, I get why people don't put their kids up. I get it 100%.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 the internet can be very mean to children. Yeah, and dangerous to children.

Speaker 1 Shit, I'll use Summer Walker as an example.

Speaker 1 She's somebody, there's plenty of people I know that if they could take back ever putting their kid on the internet, because y'all are mean-spirited fucks, especially if I have an Autistic Kid. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We just

Speaker 1 because then the audience... I hate to bring it up, but back to...
Yay, he's friends with this family and was mean to kids on the internet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It don't even always be the fucking

Speaker 1 dog, avatar, stranger. Yeah, be people you know.
No, that's different.

Speaker 1 And depending on what level of autism,

Speaker 1 them niggas don't be beat. I ain't gonna hold you.
No, they don't.

Speaker 1 The kids is autistic.

Speaker 1 The lights, the cameras, the noise

Speaker 1 of the kids. It's too much.
Leave me alone. And you leave alone.
So again, I'm with E.

Speaker 1 It's not our business. But once I saw him say that his son was autistic, I had a new level of understanding.
My thing is... What was going on? Let's say this.

Speaker 1 To me, it's audacious for some strangers to even attempt to hold you accountable for why you did or didn't do a certain thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but this wasn't a stranger that was attempting to hold him accountable. Now, the strangers came later.
Came after you. You feel what I'm saying? Like the comments and all of that shit.

Speaker 1 It's like a level of entitlement that... they are not supposed to have.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize that till I came here because all that shit was not a part of my world. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know these things even existed until I got here.

Speaker 1 You know what's crazy is I had a situation with my oldest son and his mom was very adamant in the very beginning. Please do me a favor, do not post our son on Instagram anywhere.
I don't post him.

Speaker 1 I have people that typically attack me online. I really don't want the

Speaker 1 troubles. And for me, I was like, that ain't got nothing to do with me.

Speaker 1 But at a certain point, I sat back and I was like, you you know what? Maybe this is best, not just for her, but also for my son.

Speaker 1 And on the top of the fact that I'm in a space where people like to just dig into my own shit as well.

Speaker 1 So maybe that would be the best thing to do for him. Like, so sometimes just those little conversations, even if it might not be where you.
Mark, talking about the investment.

Speaker 1 Like, bro, these niggas will go digging. Yeah.
I've seen people go digging for years. I mean, nigga, I've seen niggas have asked me, yo, dog, I fuck with you on the pod.

Speaker 1 Can I just see a picture of your daughter? You just had a new daughter, right? That's crazy to me. What are we talking about? It's crazy.
It's sick.

Speaker 1 Like, what are we talking about yeah y'all can't see no picture his daughter i ain't seen a picture

Speaker 1 that goes from that's not fandom to me that's it it's not fandom like it's it's it's it's not cool uh it's it's whack to me fandom in the age of social media has gone up another notch people feel like they deserve yes to be inside your house yes yeah in a way that they didn't because so many people do that because they're like inside of people's house yeah truman show everyone took true and show to be truth and reality in the past 15 years.

Speaker 1 For me, it's less to do with the actual person. It's just them wanting to be a part of something, no matter who it is.
If they can just find it through you, then cool.

Speaker 1 But they just want to feel a part of something that's bigger than that. This is one of my biggest regrets on the shit I brought to the game.

Speaker 1 And you did. You did, though.
You did. Sometimes I lose sleep over it.
This wasn't my intention.

Speaker 1 This wasn't my intention when I created this.

Speaker 1 They used it for evil. Yes, that's the problem.
That is the problem. That nigga's so stupid.
But you created. Huh? What you created? The Truman Show in hip-hop.

Speaker 1 That's true. No, you, yeah.
No, no, I'll give you that. I agree.
I'll give you that. You was ready to strip it away from me.
Nah, no, no, no. I just had to.
You ready to take?

Speaker 1 Nah, I didn't like the snarling. What you created? What you created, you bitch-ass uncle.
Yeah, I didn't like that. Yeah, that was.
Nah, I was just trying to understand what you were saying.

Speaker 1 But nah, you agree with that? You agree with that? Yeah. Stupid-ass Joe Budden community went out there and found the porn stars that look like Ronnie Cycle, huh? Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 That was a little fun. That was fun.
What else happened? Y'all tore me up for the female silver surfer shit. Fuck y'all.
I'm old. I forgot.

Speaker 1 I ain't like that. I don't like that.

Speaker 1 That little female silver surfer lady was important for two months in the comic books growing up.

Speaker 1 These niggas don't knock it the fuck up. I remember Shorty now that y'all said.
Anyway.

Speaker 1 What else? What else? What else? Is there anything in music that needs our attention? No, right?

Speaker 1 Not really, other than the non-music shit that we just talked about. Right.

Speaker 1 Let me see. Let me see.
What's on my list? Because I know I got some bullshit here. Let's see.

Speaker 1 All right. I have Tyler being Tyler in a story that no one cares about, but I wrote it down anyway.
Tyler or Tyler? Tyler. Oh.
Oh. Talking about the Britney Spears.

Speaker 1 Tyler with the Britney Spears Inspo outfit where Tyler came out and was like, oh.

Speaker 1 I didn't get this from her. No Inspo there for certain.
I just thought the outfit was cute. And then somebody said something to her.
And she was like, why don't you shut the fuck up?

Speaker 1 So, but they was on Tyler's ass.

Speaker 1 I can't say nothing about it, though, because I already said enough.

Speaker 1 She probably wasn't this, but your style is. Yeah, I was just about to say, her style was.

Speaker 1 Somebody might have said, put this on, and she don't even know. No, it was like a green top with dedim shorts.
It was the iconic Britney Spears outfit when she did MTV Awards and shit. Oh, MTV.

Speaker 1 Gotcha. So, I mean, it's very similar.
And at the end of the day, someone got some interesting things. Right, your stylist knew if you were.
Tyler is how old? 20?

Speaker 1 Two? I don't know. She wasn't born with a 20.
She's early 20s. She might not know what the fuck.
I'm getting

Speaker 1 she might have not been inspired by it, but yeah, she might have not been. Don't get me wrong, though.
If you're

Speaker 1 a study and a real artist and you've known

Speaker 1 the legends, you know those certain looks that came across. Like the J-Lo look is just a legendary look that she did at the MTV Awards.
Deserved.

Speaker 1 Little Kim's shit with the one boob out is a legendary look. Whether you were a kid at that time or older, you remember those looks.
So you know where the inspiration is coming from. Shit, you bugger.

Speaker 1 Anyway, that's not the point. The point is whether you got inspiration for Britney Spears or not,

Speaker 1 why'd you say that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 Just don't say shit.

Speaker 1 They come from a mean... Yo, dog.
They come from a mean ass place.

Speaker 1 My nigga, we just talking about this. These niggas come from meanness.
These niggas on the internet, they growing up in the internet.

Speaker 1 If you disagree with a nigga on the internet, they suck dick, you bitch ass nigga.

Speaker 1 you that's what they come from any remote slight disagreement is oh yo you sucking dick you yo get your fuck get the dick out your mouth you like yo bro what are you talking about i just said no i disagree that that's what they come from i expect almost any celebrity to crack at some point when you getting nothing but bullshit thrown your way all day unless you are older veteran that's yeah you know what i mean yeah new the new guys you're gonna

Speaker 1 shit the veterans is cracking so you're gonna at some point be frustrated and want to respond back to somebody everybody has those moments. I'm on the total opposite side of this.

Speaker 1 I believe you, y'all. I believe y'all.
How do you see it?

Speaker 1 Again, like we started earlier, like when you was talking about being calm and what being calm means.

Speaker 1 I come from the old school meaning of celebrity,

Speaker 1 which was limited access.

Speaker 1 That's real. So today,

Speaker 1 fans should be able to say anything that they want, and most of it probably will be mean without really knowing how you feel in response to it.

Speaker 1 I don't agree with that.

Speaker 1 You don't agree with what? She could have been in her house or just any celebrity. People don't have to know how you feel regarding all of these matters.

Speaker 1 There's nothing wrong with shutting the fuck up, especially when it's this inconsequential. Who cares if you got inspo from Britney or not amidst rumors already that you kind of add?

Speaker 1 I'm not going to say that because I'm 44 and I've said it already about her.

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 all the comments are just like all right we can understand why some people think that this girl is a dick

Speaker 1 and that's cool when water's out I think that's unfair

Speaker 1 I think that's unfair I think that this is a human being and yo just because you're a celebrity and you wear a certain or you you have a certain job that don't entitle people to say whatever the fuck they want to say to you and if you feel like it's a day where you tell them suck my dick and shut the fuck up you are entitled to do that if they entitled to be disrespectful, you're entitled to tell them suck your dick.

Speaker 1 You come in here in days and tell them people suck your dick. I think you're 45 years old.
I think you're entitled to, but you shouldn't. Yeah.
Yeah. I think you're entitled.
I agree.

Speaker 1 I empathize with everybody who does that. I've had those moments.
You've had that. Picking and choosing, bro.
No, no, I'm saying, I think we have to pick and choose, though, like, at that level.

Speaker 1 I don't think we should, because I think it's bad for business. I think it's bad for business.
You know why I don't like that?

Speaker 1 Because once again, it gets back to picking and choosing who we like it to come from. There was a lot of times where Rihanna was clapping back at everybody.

Speaker 1 And we was cheering it on. On Twitter.
She was she went back at celebrities. She went at other artists and we were like, yo, that's some real shit because she's speaking straight from human.

Speaker 1 So it's but it's a little different Rihanna too because

Speaker 1 part of me for me Rihanna is having fun with it.

Speaker 1 Like it's different when you look like you're clowning people and playing people versus you actually look angry like you want to actually go out and fight somebody.

Speaker 1 And again I'm not saying I'm above it. I'm just saying like

Speaker 1 I think we look, I think we end up looking bad if we respond to, if we show that they're getting to us. For sure.
You know what I'm saying? That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Whereas I didn't feel like they were getting to Rihanna. I feel like Rihanna was just clowning people.
Celebrity, regular, whatever.

Speaker 1 But it's cool. I mean, we don't got to keep talking about it.
Rihanna, Cardi,

Speaker 1 has had interactions with fans. Yeah, Cardi's going to be like, get the fuck out my face.
Suck my dick. She said, chop a dog walking.
You get what I'm saying? Like, yo, dog, y'all are naming.

Speaker 1 Y'all are naming people,

Speaker 1 one, that are outliers, two,

Speaker 1 that have partially built their brands on this behavior that you're talking about.

Speaker 1 So Cardi can come out and do that. Rihanna didn't build her brand on that.

Speaker 1 That was part of it. No, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't. It 100% was a part of building her brand.

Speaker 1 It was 100% a part of it. Her being able to say certain things that other artists were unable to say and it be received a certain way.
That was a part of it.

Speaker 1 She started building a part of that brand. On risque.

Speaker 1 Off of, she was already successful at that point when she started to build that brand. This young lady

Speaker 1 is in no way near the type of success Rihanna was at that point. Not even close.

Speaker 1 this can still be a part of her building her brand yo I'm very blunt I'm not gonna sit back and just let y'all say whatever so school me on this because I don't know her well enough to know why are people reading her as a allegedly as like maybe a dick as opposed to

Speaker 1 it was Rihanna it was the it was the uh

Speaker 1 it was the

Speaker 1 uh yo hold my award Could you hold my award, please? That played a big part in it. Okay.
Oh, yeah, I remember. And the manner in which she did that.
Did it dick? A lot of people turned their nose at

Speaker 1 the Usher, the Usher dance, and Dub. I remember that one.
Yes. There was a colorism conversation.

Speaker 1 There was a conversation about ethnicity.

Speaker 1 Oh, she was the one with the black color.

Speaker 1 She's from South Africa.

Speaker 1 It's been a few. It's been a few.
Some don't seem fair to her, but I get it.

Speaker 1 I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yo, I'm not with celebrities wanting everything to be fair. I just don't understand this.

Speaker 1 I don't understand that. Nothing about your celebrity life is fair.

Speaker 1 I'm confused by this.

Speaker 1 What is she saying that she wants to be fair? No, I'm not talking about

Speaker 1 that. Mark says, damn, some of that's not fair to her.
He's right. Okay.

Speaker 1 I don't know when we got to this time where fairness should be allotted to the business.

Speaker 1 But it's not even a celebrity thing. The world ain't fair to nobody.
Right? Yeah. Cool.
But if the world's not fair to nobody, then we're going to hold everybody to the same standard.

Speaker 1 And if Joe Button wasn't a rapper and Joe Button was a mechanic or an engineer or an accountant and somebody says something rude to you, you're entitled to tell them, suck my dick.

Speaker 1 Not, okay.

Speaker 1 I don't like the word entitled right there, and I don't want to be circular in this conversation. You can say anything you want.

Speaker 1 How much money do you make while you say it?

Speaker 1 I think the money piece is irrelevant. Oh, see, I don't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't. I think that you stand in what you stand under, and I think you walk.
I think that's foolish to even think that the money part forces.

Speaker 1 I think that some people make choices and decisions and they live with

Speaker 1 the recourse or the circumstance. I mean, or the

Speaker 1 choice

Speaker 1 of what they're saying. If you made a choice to go into a career, we're going to be put in front of a bunch of people, people are going to have criticism.
You should know that.

Speaker 1 And not everyone is going to be nice.

Speaker 1 And for me, this is the classic Franklin from Snowfall. Yo, y'all want me to be mad at the way a nigga talk.

Speaker 1 I disagree. It's niggas getting this.

Speaker 1 When I came and sat on it, and I don't want to make this about me.

Speaker 1 When I came and sat on this couch, I don't think I came and sat on this couch and said, yo, I'm going to come now, speak in front of the public. And so now I take whatever comes along with that.

Speaker 1 Did you have any expectations that way? No, I knew nothing about that. That's

Speaker 1 not. No, I shouldn't have.

Speaker 1 No, I shouldn't have.

Speaker 1 That's not for him. No, I shouldn't have.
Well, this was never part of his background. He didn't really have a full understanding of what this is.

Speaker 1 But when you come and decide to be a part of it,

Speaker 1 no one really told him what to say. How do you know what to expect

Speaker 1 if you're

Speaker 1 if you hit the lotto, right? If you hit the lotto for $100 million,

Speaker 1 how the fuck do you know what to expect that comes along with having $100 million? There's some things you don't expect. You don't know that.

Speaker 1 Until you experience it, you have no idea. But if a bunch of people started asking you for money and pretending they were your cousin, you wouldn't be surprised by that.

Speaker 1 I would say that's something you should have expected. Or the people,

Speaker 1 but the people that might be close to you that you looked at and you loved, and they start treating you funny or they act funny,

Speaker 1 that would be surprising to you. For sure.
But what I'm saying is

Speaker 1 the example of the person who has an extra critic, who gets extra criticized now that they're on TV or in front of a camera.

Speaker 1 I'm saying that to me is more akin to a bunch of people asking you for money. In other words, like we've been on the other side of it.
You and your homies sit in the barbershop.

Speaker 1 We sit in the barbershop and talk shit about famous people, right? So I would assume that you would have expected that.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying you're right or wrong. I'm just saying, like, I'm surprised that you did.

Speaker 1 It's fucked up that y'all just expect people to turn off their human instinct of just wanting to go ahead and respond. Like, I get it.
Yes, there are certain things.

Speaker 1 There's a gift and a curse that comes with entertainment. Yes, you 100% should be able to understand it.
You eat it and you eat it.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 it's a human thing to want to respond and even sometimes respond. I don't think you're all fulfilling that way.
I'm just saying, the one thing I'll say is a lot of times we

Speaker 1 normalize and naturalize

Speaker 1 the benefits of this position.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 this is the part that I think Joe is right about. It's not going to be fair, but it's also not fair when we get to the front of the line at the restaurant.
It's not. I said the world ain't fair.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 I'm not saying, but

Speaker 1 both can be true. The world ain't fair.
The world ain't fear if you're a mechanic.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you can respond how you respond. You just got to live without.
Okay.

Speaker 1 We're on the same page.

Speaker 1 Respond how you want to respond.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Let me let y'all know out there that people are talking bad about you right now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Famous or not famous. Whatever you are.
More people are talking about you.

Speaker 1 No matter where you are, no matter what you're doing, you can be the accountant, the mechanic, all these fucking occupations that should be using. Somebody is talking bad about you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can't think of the amount of times I've walked out of a mechanic shop or stopped and talked bad about the person I dealt with because they were whatever, rubbed me the wrong way.

Speaker 1 You go to a restaurant and get bad service, you're gonna be talking bad about that waiter or server.

Speaker 1 The gig is the gig.

Speaker 1 This is just cruel.

Speaker 1 He reserves reserves the right to tell all of these people to sponsor my God.

Speaker 1 Did it, did it, did it? And he choking people, too.

Speaker 1 He just got locked up. Who's Mark? For real? Yeah.
Like a month or so ago, got into an incident with a

Speaker 1 dude in a restaurant. Say he likes a slogan? Nah, he was doing some racial slurs.
He didn't like it. Yoke him up.
Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 I didn't think it was possible, but they're turning me off this song now. It's fucking terrible.

Speaker 1 don't let me do that it's

Speaker 1 turning me away from this song i don't know if you guys heard this clip but i'll play it for you being influenced yo

Speaker 1 tesla cyber

Speaker 1 make me more make me like the more that

Speaker 1 they turn me away

Speaker 1 This audio is bad, so I'll just tell you. This is actor Miguel Nunes.
I'm not familiar with him.

Speaker 1 But he claims that Simon Cowell, creator of X Factor and former AR executive, offered the hit song Return of the Mac to Eddie Murphy, but Eddie Murphy turned it down.

Speaker 1 And now I can't, not only can I not unhear it.

Speaker 1 This is an Eddie Murphy song. It should have been an Eddie Murphy song.
I can't unhear that now. One.
For sure. And Eddie would have spotted it.
He would have.

Speaker 1 Now I look at it as one of those songs that were fucking.

Speaker 1 A spoof?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the spoofs that that they pass around the industry. The creator hit.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 The manufactured science lab hit that we can give this to whoever. And it's a hit.
I don't like those hits.

Speaker 1 I don't like those hits. Sometimes I like those hits.
Well, sometimes I do. I'm not going to lie.
Sometimes I do. Historically, I like the person.
If Ish is a hit maker,

Speaker 1 I want to hear what those hits sound like. Yeah, for sure.
I don't want to hear just hits being shopped to anybody. If anybody do it, it's a hit.

Speaker 1 Boom. Bahumbug.
Except for what it works.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And it works with them. But it works with them.
So, so as a.

Speaker 1 Bah humbug. I hate that.
Like, if you are a writer, right? I'm a writer. Or a producer.
And a producer. Like, I'm saying for other, like, other people primarily.

Speaker 1 You could write a song and say, yo, to me, I would like to give this song to X or I would like to give this song to Y. Like, if you hear Kanye talk, Kanye was like, yo, he did

Speaker 1 Heart of the City. He said, y'all want to get that song to DMX.
Like, I envisioned DMX having that song. You get what I'm saying? I understand what you're saying.
Let me.

Speaker 1 Because that sounds like an Eddie Murphy. What I'm saying is

Speaker 1 what adds to my point is that Mark Morrison never had nothing else.

Speaker 1 That's where it gets true. There was never another song, slap, jam, album.
It's just

Speaker 1 we gave this to you. This is forever cemented with your name, but you gone.
Gotcha. Yeah.
Just the one, one-time quick hit. Hell no.
I can't respect it. You still got to deliver the record.

Speaker 1 And he did. So let's not strip that away.

Speaker 1 He delivered the record the way, but it was tailor-made to just be more of a fun, loving thing, and his tone fit that, which is why when you hear Eddie Murphy could have did it, it makes all the sentiment.

Speaker 1 I don't want to hear that shit now. Now, man.
Oh,

Speaker 1 I think it would have been an even bigger

Speaker 1 smash if you had, because it's a very good thing. Well, for sure.
You have a different affinity for Eddie Murphy songs.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's true. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you was in the Michael Jackson song. You was in the Wazash.
Was that?

Speaker 1 Was that? Was that way? Yeah. I know it, though.
Of course, you know.

Speaker 1 If Eddie Murphy walks in any record label and says, hey, Rick James produced this for me, and here's what we got, they're putting all the money to make sure that.

Speaker 1 Eddie Murphy has some more slaps on that. Huh?

Speaker 1 He has some more slaps.

Speaker 1 More Rick James. I hate his music.
More Rick James.

Speaker 1 See what I mean? And he's alright, you a hit. And he could really sing.
And they said that.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh you honestly you glazing you getting too far this is what

Speaker 1 this is what the young boys call glazing

Speaker 1 Eddie can hold the note Eddie can sing for an actor he can hold the note Eddie can sing can he sing better than Shade

Speaker 1 Come on stop how many girls do you think they can sing better than Eddie Murphy I'm just checking your temperature buddy stop don't do that all right just tell the audience how Eddie is fucking

Speaker 1 about to drag it and put something in the universe I'm saying that um Eddie Murphy can sing like he ain't no bum singer yes he is. He's a mediocre singer.
It's a lot of mediocre singers.

Speaker 1 Some of our favorite singers are mediocre singers. And I think Eddie's right enough.
None of my favorite singers are mediocre singers. That's not true.
Some of your favorite artists. Like who?

Speaker 1 Name somebody. Keith Sweat.
I'm not even going to insult nobody. I ain't going to assault nobody.

Speaker 1 I think Keith Sweat is a better singer than that. Keith Sweat.
And Keith, I love Keith. I love Keith Sweat.
OG Keith. Love him.
But he. You be outside a lot.

Speaker 1 Are y'all about to say that Eddie Murphy sings better than Keith Sweat? No, I'm saying I'm about to say that. So Keith Sweat is the name I wanted to ask you about after I heard your shade take.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. So listen, I wasn't about to say that.
I was saying he said, name some other mediocre singers that are great artists. I think Keith is a great songwriter, great producer, all that.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's known for being a vocalist. Right.
And I'm saying Eddie's under him. He's stepped to niggas, too.
I know. That's on who I think.
Right there, too. And you're in Harlem.
I know.

Speaker 1 I'm on the roads. I know.
Smoothie. Eddie was the benefit of being famous and having a great production and a great album.
I agree that there's a lot of mediocre singers out there.

Speaker 1 I just think Eddie would not be somebody I would call a singer. You know what I mean? And Eddie's a fucking plant.
We don't always want to hear a virtuoso singer. And it's true.
Fucking plant.

Speaker 1 I mean, one song I can sing to. I don't want to try to sing along with someone that I can't sing to.
That's fair. Otherwise, we would listen to opera.
But that's the beauty of us.

Speaker 1 That's the beauty of some of these songs that you can sing along with. Like, don't get me wrong, it wasn't like Mark just didn't have any type of vocal ability, but he did enough.

Speaker 1 to where you didn't discredit him and he did right

Speaker 1 not enough to where the next normal person walking down the street can sing. That's sometimes the catchiness of a great fucking hit record.

Speaker 1 It's almost like the rappers that can rap super well don't necessarily be the most successful because it's hard to keep up with it. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The only reason I was saying anything about him being a quality singer is I don't, I'm not necessarily convinced that if he had the song, it would have gone to the next level.

Speaker 1 I think sometimes it's the right person at the right time that just hits that that just hits that mark. And even though Eddie was more famous,

Speaker 1 I don't know if he would have bodied the song. I think he would have.

Speaker 1 I think the song would have been better. No, this would have been a body bag.
If Eddie would have did that, body bag. You like bigger records.

Speaker 1 You like Eddie more than I do, so that's a main part of it. Yeah.
Big OG. And you know who Michael Miguel Nuna is.

Speaker 1 It's Joanna Man.

Speaker 1 Joanna Man, he was also in life. He played the game.
Y'all think I remember. Don't be scared.

Speaker 1 That's this dude's name. Yes.
Don't be skirt. He was on.
Don't be skirt. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Pretty Ricky's what you call him. Martin.
Okay. Come on, man.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that was his name.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to put some respect.

Speaker 1 I wish you niggas would see my thoughts sometimes. All right.
Okay. Nah, I know who it is now.
All right.

Speaker 1 That sounds a nut ball. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. What else? What else? What else? What else? What else is this? Let's see.

Speaker 1 Damn. The draft is Thursday.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 The draft is Thursday. I don't know if y'all are equipped to have an NFL draft talk.
I mean, a little bit, but

Speaker 1 I only wanted to ask you guys. I think the entire draft is decided by us.
The Giants have picked three.

Speaker 1 I think two, actually, is going to make a lot of. I think Travis is a big one.
I think whether they pick Travis or Abdul Carter is going to make a big difference.

Speaker 1 I think the Giants is taking that running back.

Speaker 1 Gentry?

Speaker 1 I think they're taking him. I think after that point, it's Weber.

Speaker 1 Okay. You don't talk no more on this topic.

Speaker 1 Please. Go ahead.
If you don't mind. Okay, do me a favor.
This is like that Vatican stuff. Do me a favor.

Speaker 1 If it runs down being Cam Ward, Travis Hunter, and then that little running back dude, then come back and talk to me, though. That gentleman is very.

Speaker 1 And a lot of people consider him a top five. Football take Ashton Genti in the great words of Charlemagne the Guard.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hey, how

Speaker 1 nigga. Wait, you should be excited to take that.

Speaker 1 That's how egregious I think your football tank is right now. But if that happens,

Speaker 1 I don't think it's that egregious. That's not that egregious.
I don't think it's that egregious. If y'all took him right there, if I were a Giants fan, I would be happy with that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Unless you bypass Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 If Travis Hunter is picked second, what do you do? Don't write that check, Joe. No, we did it.
We did it. No, I'm out of here.

Speaker 1 I'm out of here. I don't think they will, but I don't think it would be the most egregious thing.
There's a lot of people that have him regarded as a top five, at least overall talent in the draft.

Speaker 1 They don't typically draft running backs that high, but the Giants did it before with Saequal. I don't think it would be that egregious.
And they're regarded. And they fucked up.

Speaker 1 Got it, guys.

Speaker 1 And that is our NFL draft.

Speaker 1 That is our NFL draft coverage.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 So stupid.

Speaker 1 Yo, are you niggas crazy? Giants, please

Speaker 1 crazy. Please pick him.
It's almost like I'm in a room of people that haven't watched one draft show. I've watched a million.

Speaker 1 And no one has him slayed. No one anywhere in the world has said Genti to the Giants at three.
I agree. I agree with you.
Nobody. So y'all, I just want to know.

Speaker 1 I'm just letting y'all know y'all are breaking that. Okay.

Speaker 1 That is a hot take. I don't think that will happen.
But that being said, I do think that his tail would... Yeah, I don't think...

Speaker 1 I don't think they'll take him either. But what I'm saying is if they did take him, I wouldn't be like, oh, they the biggest floppy.
I wouldn't do that

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 1 they just didn't pay saquan so i doubt they take him well this is the saquan thing our running back now is actually pretty good

Speaker 1 he's also young yeah like this is his second or third year coming up yeah like but he's more of a scat back

Speaker 1 that far

Speaker 1 he's nice though tell that to fantasy owners he didn't look like that to me That nigga was putting up buckets. He was the only back they had for a long time, actually.

Speaker 1 So you don't got no choice but to put up buckets. Listen, hey, hey, I'm done with football talk.
We did it. We did it.
Hey, the draft is Thursday. See you guys there.

Speaker 1 Saturday, I'm sure we'll unpack it. I feel like there's something in music that has to be there that we're just not discussing.
Is music that beat? Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 It really is. It really is.
Bro, we're almost in May.

Speaker 1 Oh, I know. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Everybody's like, nah, nah, nah, the heavy hit is coming first quarter.

Speaker 1 Ain't no hitting been done, my nigga. This shit is trash.

Speaker 1 I'm fine with that because

Speaker 1 there's albums that came out.

Speaker 1 You guys still got Bad Bunny and Kendrick. I'm good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm still listening to that Bad Bunny. Me too? Yeah.
His tiny desk was great. Amazing.
Amazing. That bad bunny.

Speaker 1 Incredible, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to just go to the heights if I want to listen.

Speaker 1 Because I need to go to the bottom.

Speaker 1 Rumble. I'm good.
I'm good.

Speaker 1 I'm good. Nah.
It's not my thing. Y'all doing anything this weekend?

Speaker 1 I'm traveling all the time. You're going to Nashville.
Nashville? Yeah. It's Rem's birthday.
That's what she wanted to do, all her friends. Well, that's dope.
That's dope.

Speaker 1 Yeah, me and my man Duff will be the only dudes there, I think.

Speaker 1 That's... Is he single? No.

Speaker 1 His girlfiancé is coming as well. Nobody is single but you.
By the way.

Speaker 1 Like, everybody in the world found their person.

Speaker 1 He found some people. Yeah, he found his people.
His tribe.

Speaker 1 How about that dope? It should be fun. I do feel like at some point we're going to be the only dudes there with like eight women.
When y'all leaving?

Speaker 1 Saturday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pull up. It's right there.

Speaker 1 By direct right quick. Look at him.

Speaker 1 He's ready already. I love that show.
You said you're traveling? Yeah, I got to do.

Speaker 1 Friday, I got to.

Speaker 1 Well, no, Saturday, actually. Saturday, I got to do

Speaker 1 a speech in North Carolina. I'll be in Charlotte, North Carolina, speaking to, I think, about a thousand educators about what's going on down in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 And then I'm headed to Denver on Sunday for a few hours to deliver an academic paper.

Speaker 1 I'm on a war tour with Muhammad.

Speaker 1 It's exhausting, man.

Speaker 1 Wish I could not do it. Hold what?

Speaker 1 No, the academic shit don't pay.

Speaker 1 No, like it literally doesn't pay. This is for the culture? Really? Yeah.
Yeah. I spent six months writing an essay,

Speaker 1 a theoretical essay that I'm going going to deliver on Sunday morning to the American Educational Research Association. So, you know, I want people to hear the paper, so I'm going to do it.

Speaker 1 But it's a drag to go all the way to Denver for that, and then I got to fly all the way back on Monday. What pays? Like, the drinks that Dr.
Uma and them be doing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I get paid for speeches, but I don't get paid for, like, papers. You know what I'm saying? So,

Speaker 1 the speeches pay pretty well, you know, and I give a large chunk of it to charity. But the papers is what draws in the speech money, right?

Speaker 1 You'd be surprised how much they don't. People don't care about the paper.
It's very inside baseball. Like, nobody pays attention to it.

Speaker 1 If I go on TV or I write like a newspaper article or I do like a magazine thing, yes. But like academic papers, 12 people read those.

Speaker 1 Big dog. How much you said you give to charity? A significant portion.
About the same portion he gives to autism.

Speaker 1 I don't give money to autism. I give money to a non-profit.
No, he's just buying prom outfits.

Speaker 1 I get the same percentage. Do y'all do that already?

Speaker 1 When the fuck is the prom? Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 1 Man. Oh, that's right.
I didn't know you did that. So, you buy prime outfits for people?

Speaker 1 I'm donating.

Speaker 1 I'm donating

Speaker 1 tuxedos and outfits to a bunch of boys that can't really afford them, but their GPAs and shit like that are high.

Speaker 1 And a lot of them wasn't even going to go to the prime because they just couldn't afford it. That's dope.
Dope. How much does it cost to do that? You can get some money.
I'll talk to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to get some money. Yeah, tell me how.
I'm going to donate. That's what I'm asking.
Yeah, I'll definitely donate to that. That's dope.
Yeah, I just need some photos

Speaker 1 to show that they want.

Speaker 1 I think they will purchase.

Speaker 1 Run and fall for Islam Pyramid.

Speaker 1 If you want more.

Speaker 1 You got to be careful, fucking, with the boy.

Speaker 1 That nigga saw that. Four niggas on a sweat.

Speaker 1 Four niggas on a hoodie.

Speaker 1 Exactly. He all be wearing IKEA sweatshirts.

Speaker 1 That's that issue on the side of the limo.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. That's funny you nigga.
That dog bad shit.

Speaker 1 It was dope.

Speaker 1 It's nothing. You ain't do nothing? Oh, nah.
I'm going down south. My aunt passed away.
Oh, bro.

Speaker 1 Condolence. Condolence, man.

Speaker 1 Condolence.

Speaker 1 I got to invite y'all out next week.

Speaker 1 You performing? No, no, no. Some of the people.

Speaker 1 It's a funny invite.

Speaker 1 But there's an establishment that wanted to honor certain customers and stuff at the establishment.

Speaker 1 This should sound shady as fuck doing you telling us.

Speaker 1 Yo, this is why he don't do the main.

Speaker 1 That's why this nigga is not allowed.

Speaker 1 But go ahead.

Speaker 1 Does it not sound like you spent black money on it?

Speaker 1 I ain't saying he didn't. But I'm not saying the establishment because I wanted to seem like I was getting a lot of stuff.
Oh, it sounds about good. But you know, a spot that's not.

Speaker 1 That niggas are saved.

Speaker 1 Come on. Go ahead.
Now, you niggas, they showing love. So I

Speaker 1 really am. I didn't want to

Speaker 1 say it. Free appetizers.
He said it. I didn't want to say it.
These niggas are.

Speaker 1 My one get one drinks. So I'll invite y'all out.
You know what I mean? Might want to get one well drinks. Just the way to get the guys out.
Mel had the Disney skybox. You doing it.

Speaker 1 You're doing that shit again.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Didn't want to invite everybody out. Yeah, I'm that paranoid.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 When people invite me out,

Speaker 1 it's when my paranoia begins. I can see it.
No, that's not. But I'm sitting.

Speaker 1 Don't personalize it.

Speaker 1 Like, you know what I'm saying? It don't have to be. Yeah, but he should know me better enough to know that I can already determine you not going to want to be here.
So I'm not even sending an invite.

Speaker 1 I'm good at that. What kind of spot is what is the spot? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Nah, truth.

Speaker 1 You're not an idiot.

Speaker 1 No, you get him at times.

Speaker 1 They get him all the time.

Speaker 1 They get me? Nah, they ain't never get me.

Speaker 1 I ain't never get got. You're done.
That's paint. So tell me about the spot, though.
No, I'll put you on after.

Speaker 1 I mean, not the name of it. It's like a restaurant.
It's like a lounge. It's like a little hook lounge.
All of them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All that. All that.

Speaker 1 Where did they give you the brown bag?

Speaker 1 Snow brown bag. Come on.
It's me, my nigga. We took brown bags.
We took the brown bag. I would tell you.
I would tell you, too. I was split it with niggas, too.
No, you don't split it with me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. With niggas.
Who you want? Don't split it with me. So the whole crew invited, though.

Speaker 1 I'll speak to you after. Because you said I want all y'all.
I didn't know if you meant all of us. Well, I figured it would be a nice time

Speaker 1 to really hang with the cat. And I'm sure, depending on who shows up, it'll be beneficial for you.
Don't get me wrong. You're not paying for a drink and drink ever again in your life.

Speaker 1 You niggas did not come. Free hookah for life for a month.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 You don't give a fuck if we come at all.

Speaker 1 You don't need to negotiate the watermelon mint.

Speaker 1 He ain't.

Speaker 1 God damn it.

Speaker 1 66.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 Let's see. Let's see.
Let's see. Does anybody care that Kendrick Lamar has been announced as a brand ambassador for Chanel?

Speaker 1 Let me hit the round of applause. Hey.

Speaker 1 That's to him, man. It's fine.
That's fine.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Nobody gave a fuck about.

Speaker 1 I'm Kendrick Dow, yo.

Speaker 1 I hate to say it. I'm Kendrick Dowell.
I think that's fine.

Speaker 1 Congrats to him. I think I'm talking about him.

Speaker 1 I think him pivoting to other worlds and being accepted over there, I think that's fine. I think you just build on that brand.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I like that word. Accepted? What's up? That's not true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't really like that. Everybody don't get accepted into high-end fashion.

Speaker 1 That's a task. Well, he's already been, like before the Chanel announcement, he's been showing that he's into fashion and he has some relation to it.

Speaker 1 It's not like this is his first time doing something in collaboration with a brand, but

Speaker 1 I just.

Speaker 1 They made him the ambassador. I'm not going to lie, I'm kind of with Mark a little bit.
I just, do your thing, but I've just heard so much of you this past year.

Speaker 1 I could use like six months of no Kendrick. How are you even going to say that in that t-shirt?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. How can you say I'm Kendrick out in a t-shirt that says the future is black and feminist? I feel like that's his same movement.
No, no, not at all. I mean, again, salute to him.

Speaker 1 I want him to win. I just, it feels like.
I don't need a new headline every. That's what it is.
Yeah. I don't need a new headline.

Speaker 1 It's been 12 months of him having a loose stool and we got to talk about it. You know what I mean? Which is, again, nothing bad about Kendrick.
And I'm not criticizing us, talking about it right now.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying for me, Kendrick, I just had like overexposure. I feel like he's almost overexposed right now for me.
So I just, even as a brand move, it's interesting to think about.

Speaker 1 Why? Just the timing of it. Like,

Speaker 1 I wish this announcement would have have happened right after the Super Bowl, right before the Super Bowl. Like, he was right at that peak.
For his sake, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I don't know if other, because I feel like other people may feel like he and I feel, which is a little Kendrick doubt. That's all.
I can dig it. I mean, he's coming out.

Speaker 1 His single is still number one, and he's going on a stadium, too. I mean,

Speaker 1 listen, I get it. But what makes me feel like someone like him, who's always been so, like, kind of like

Speaker 1 recluse a little bit and not really always, it's a little different for me. So maybe that's just what it is, too.

Speaker 1 I think he's building his own brand now. He's not under TDE no more.

Speaker 1 And I think him doing that, I think if they would have announced it around the Super Bowl, it would have almost seemed gimmicky.

Speaker 1 I think now, right here, it seems more authentic and it seems good. You know what I mean? Like, around the Super Bowl shit seemed like y'all just dick riding.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, now I think in May, well, April, May, them announcing it. I think it sounds more like that.
I appreciate the wins. Yeah, we're fine.
I ain't gonna get it.

Speaker 1 You know, like I said, just every two, three weeks, we get in another. And not even by just him, just the people paying.
Stop hating him.

Speaker 1 Fuckers hating on the kids. You could have waited to see that someone was hating on Kendrick Cuffy, huh? I'm still going to that show.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to go to the show. I'm going to go to it.

Speaker 1 It's just all the other stuff that you're talking about. Yeah, it's just all the other stuff.
I can dig it. Yeah.
I can dig it.

Speaker 1 Because it's a slow day. I follow this

Speaker 1 page that does Subway Takes. Okay.
It's a guy that gets on the Subway

Speaker 1 microphone. Yeah, the car is the microphone.
Yeah. And he asks somebody to give a take.
Yeah. And they give one.

Speaker 1 Which, to me, not only is a great show, but it is the fucking essence of podcasting. Like,

Speaker 1 give a take. So I be really listening to these shits.
I wanted to play one and get your thoughts on it. I actually wanted to play a few of these.

Speaker 1 I wanted to do this on a Patreon, but since we got time today, I'll just do it. Tell me what y'all think of this concept.
What's your take? There is no such thing as nothing. 100% disagree.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look, okay, alright. Something.
No, I'm saying there's no such thing as nothing. Oh, so everything is something.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, so I will- so I do 100% agree.
I think you 100% agree.

Speaker 1 Try to conceptualize of nothing. In any manner.
Try. Try to describe it.
Just black. Like, when you call something.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. That's a profound something.
Oh, my goodness. Wait, so I do 100% agree.
There is no such thing as nothing. Everything is something.

Speaker 1 We use the word in a way that I think undermines our ability to conceive of a brighter future. We use the word nothing.
Yeah, we say well there's nothing there.

Speaker 1 We learn to use the word in a way that I think dismisses the incredible existence of

Speaker 1 everything. Maybe it is a defense mechanism.
Yeah, either this is some really high shit.

Speaker 1 Nah, I'm rolling. I'm rolling with it.
I'm kind of with him. I'm 100% rolling with him.
Yeah, I think on one hand that is what it is. Only on one hand.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, because even the vacuum of space, you know, I mean, I just think like there's... There must be some kind of nothing.
Yes, I just think that in science, the possibilities are

Speaker 1 nothing. I'm waiting to hear you niggas.
I'm waiting to hear hear you niggas. I need to.
Well, me and Park said we agree. I agree with you.
I agree. I agree too.

Speaker 1 I think black people have always done.

Speaker 1 Agreed.

Speaker 1 I think we've always rejected

Speaker 1 the idea of nothingness

Speaker 1 as the final word. That's why we say we made a way out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? We turn nothing into something, right? Because we always know there actually is something there, even when we say nothing, and that's the basis on creating new shit.

Speaker 1 I think that's why black people are so dope.

Speaker 1 Appreciate you, my black brother.

Speaker 1 It's laughing at me. What's nothing, guess?

Speaker 1 It's hard being woke, boy. Ooh, it's hard being woke.

Speaker 1 It's just hard to see shit.

Speaker 1 What movie was that? Well, he was like, man, night school.

Speaker 1 He was like, man, it's hard being woke.

Speaker 1 I ain't see that.

Speaker 1 I think it's too much thought going into that. Like the actual word nothing, saying that nothing is something that's true.
But when you start trying to delve into it, I think you're trying too hard

Speaker 1 everything ain't that deep yo yeah like you're trying i'm sorry like don't i'm don't give me i i see the logic yeah it's no such thing as nothing but you don't have to define it you don't got to go down this rabbit hole all right batter up

Speaker 1 he was good at it segregation

Speaker 1 so what's your take bring back segregation 100 disagree dead accurate bring it back i want to know where i'm not welcome okay put them signs back up. Colors only, whites only.
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 Put the band-aid on. Especially for a restaurant.
Are you kidding me? Whites only? What do I want to do in there?

Speaker 1 Mayonnaise, hot dogs.

Speaker 1 Colors only, we got seasoning. Turmeric.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like this. Okay.
You were saying that the black excellence. Absolutely.
The segregation is to get the colored excellence. Okay.
Okay. What's the playlist in the whites only spot?

Speaker 1 They playing Carrie Underwood and Kid Rock. We playing baby colours and overhead playing.
ain't no overhead lightning what are you talking about

Speaker 1 look at his hair talking about where i go that's the comment with north africans that's what i'm talking about oh yeah

Speaker 1 distinguished cast

Speaker 1 i support what the fuck you said yeah i'm going out on a limb

Speaker 1 prior to

Speaker 1 My current involvement, I wouldn't have been opposed to what she's saying.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't have been opposed to that.

Speaker 1 But now, you can't use your wife as an aside. I don't want to go back to the whites.
Guys, this is going to be problematic for me.

Speaker 1 I don't want to go.

Speaker 1 I don't want to go.

Speaker 1 They can make some mutual spots.

Speaker 1 Please. We'll go together.
Please.

Speaker 1 The middle zone. Middle zone.
I'm not mad. Yo, listen.
It sounds crazy. Yes.

Speaker 1 Be careful after your little Vatican talk. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's been posed before by a few people. I'm not mad at the take.
Do I think it would solve anything? No. Do I want to be helpful? No.
But it's not a bad take.

Speaker 1 I do like, I like my racism in front of me. All right, Nick Better.

Speaker 1 Good memory is overrated. 100% agree.
I have an awful memory and I love it. It's great, right? Yeah.
Pick up a book, awesome book. Three years later, same book.
Fresh.

Speaker 1 Watch the movie Twists and Turns five years later, shocked and on again. What did you do that?

Speaker 1 Oh, they're doing me together. Oh my god, they're not, he's dying.
Sorry,

Speaker 1 honestly, the best thing is: oh,

Speaker 1 go to sleep upset. Go to sleep in an argument.
Wake up next day, it's a new dawn. That's the advice to give to the old ball and chain.
Never go to sleep upset.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but if you have a good memory, you might wake up still upset. Yeah, and then you have to suppress.

Speaker 1 I agree with a lot of shit. That was for you.
I'm not going to beat y'all down with all of this shit. That was for you.
But

Speaker 1 it's nuts, bro. What's the name of that pick? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Subway takes. Oh, I definitely got to go look at that.
Cuckoo's anonymous.

Speaker 1 What's your take? Anything is a dating app. 100% agree.
Spotify, Venmo.

Speaker 1 Say,

Speaker 1 Venmo, you're saying Venmo. Anyone that has their Venmo public

Speaker 1 is asking to be flirted with. What else is a dating app? Anything.
I mean, Reddit threads. You're tight crossword.
Is this a dating app? I met my wife on Trivia Crack. She's not wrong.
She's right.

Speaker 1 I met my wife on Trivia Crack. She's absolutely right.
Wait, you met your wife on Trivia Pursuit. That's right.
Trivia Crack.

Speaker 1 What's that? The fuck is that? It was like trivial pursuit, but like an app game. And they had a little DM.
That's where I got.

Speaker 1 It was horny, horny. I won.

Speaker 1 You saw the 12-letter joint?

Speaker 1 Baby gravy. What?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Anything's a dating game.
She's right. That's hilarious.
Honestly.

Speaker 1 And it's a fact.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 It's a fact. I ain't no word will get them horny, bro.
Listen. That's what you can do too.
Get them along.

Speaker 1 You definitely knew that. You throw all the words at these videos.

Speaker 1 I ain't even gonna say.

Speaker 1 You got me. It's cool.
I ain't gonna say it. Later on on Patreon, I might go through some more of these just because they're pretty creative.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 They trying to play the Shannon audio on my phone. Every time I hold my phone, that Shannon audio is right at the top.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to avoid it because I don't know what's real and what's fake and what's doctored and what isn't. I'm just trying to wait.
I'm just trying to wait it out. Fair.
Fair.

Speaker 1 I just love that he said the video was 30 seconds. The real interaction was a whole 10 minutes.
Whole 10 minutes. Put the whole thing out.

Speaker 1 I also don't know about famous men allowing themselves to be recorded and not keeping the video. Well, maybe he sounded like he didn't know.
He didn't know. He didn't know he was being recorded.

Speaker 1 She caught him over to the crib. And I'm also,

Speaker 1 yo.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 If that is the case, right? Why is he at this girl's house?

Speaker 1 She might have been at his house recording him.

Speaker 1 She could have been. How do you still get to record?

Speaker 1 I don't know how that pans out. She could have had a little

Speaker 1 spy camera shit. You know how type of technology is out here?

Speaker 1 My thing is this. Is it safe to say that if somebody is recording you

Speaker 1 that they plan to use that recording at a later time? Yes. Yes.
You get what I'm saying? And that's so scary, my nigga.

Speaker 1 If we take Shannon at face value, too, when he's recorded himself on Instagram live, fucking... He's not very good with technology, I guess what I'm

Speaker 1 50-something. I still don't believe that.
When he actually hit Instagram.

Speaker 1 Live. Yes, okay.

Speaker 1 Happens to me all the time.

Speaker 1 And then start selling dick pills

Speaker 1 next episode. Yeah, anyway.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. Is that what he did? Yes.
Yeah, literally. Soon after.
Started announcing his

Speaker 1 dick pills punched.

Speaker 1 That nigga started selling the rhinos right after.

Speaker 1 And we covered it here. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 I remember recovering the thing. I didn't know he started selling the monkey meat.

Speaker 1 That's funny.

Speaker 1 Why do you call me a monkey? You say shit like that and then look at me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nigga, you staring at me. Who told you this shit should be called a monkey?

Speaker 1 Nobody, nigga. Whatever you...

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 Yo, what you call your shit, nigga? Petro Caspo.

Speaker 1 Whatever. Who the fuck come up with another name for whatever nigga want to call like monkey? Yep.
Y'all have names for your dicks? No. No.
Oh, okay. Just making sure.

Speaker 1 I thought I was missing out on something. No, nigga.
You got a name for your dick?

Speaker 1 I'm not saying a personal. I'm saying young people.
Me and Mike coming over here.

Speaker 1 He said, me and Mike coming over here to get his work.

Speaker 1 You definitely wouldn't be mad. A young MJ, too, right?

Speaker 1 I'm going to give you that round.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yo.

Speaker 1 Me and Jeffrey coming today.

Speaker 1 No, I'm saying,

Speaker 1 your lady doesn't refer, like, you know, when you have like little nicknames for certain things, as a couple, she don't got like a nickname for certain things.

Speaker 1 Please let us know one of your lady's nicknames for your Johnson.

Speaker 1 I don't have one. One of your women.

Speaker 1 No, I've had her refer to you. Give us a name, nigga.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Monxie.

Speaker 1 Spoiler who's fucked.

Speaker 1 He played Mad D.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's funny.

Speaker 1 Yo. Buck win the dunk contest, yo.
Chill out. Yo.
Chill out. He got the hops.
The jump hop. He got hops, nigga.
Fuck you. Oh, shit.
You shit little with energy.

Speaker 1 He gon' look.

Speaker 1 He's as thick as Michael Adams.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 That's crazy, bud.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. You ain't gonna tell? Nah, you got it, bro.
It's a safe space to tell this kind of stuff. Tell us.
Nah, gotta say, I was just asking y'all.

Speaker 1 If Amani get a nose ring, he would look like a stud.

Speaker 1 A stud?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 You kind of dress like a stud right now. That's what I'm saying.
Look at this wagon. Wait, I'm studded?

Speaker 1 Yo, you do look like Bernice.

Speaker 1 That's funny, son. The Bernice of the stud world.

Speaker 1 Yo. Yeah, man.
Ice Night.

Speaker 1 My man, Ice Night. There's something going around right now where they're saying Bernice,

Speaker 1 people are saying that Bernice looks like just every 40. There's plenty of 40-year-old women that look like Bernice.
Wait, who said that? What are you doing? People.

Speaker 1 Just people are saying that on the internet. Yeah, I saw that on Twitter.
Yeah. And you mad Ice not here because...
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Why would they say that? I wanted to hear him speak to it.

Speaker 1 And he's not here.

Speaker 1 I miss the guys.

Speaker 1 And women. Like, I miss the three people who are here.

Speaker 1 Clean it up with your shirt on.

Speaker 1 With your little feminist shirt.

Speaker 1 I miss the gang. I miss the gang.
I just want the whole gang here. It's a good show, though, but it's, you know.
You think that? You think what? Your opinion on that. On what? Which one?

Speaker 1 Bernice is just the average 40-year-old.

Speaker 1 I think my opinion on this is well documented.

Speaker 1 We don't need my opinion. No.

Speaker 1 Not in any

Speaker 1 nowhere. She's not the average 30-year-old.
I think she got the 30-year-old bitches. That's what I'm saying.
She got them all wiped out. What do you mean? The average?

Speaker 1 Shit, Michael. I I don't think people know what average is.

Speaker 1 She got some 20. She got a 20-year-old wiped out.
Yeah, fucking. We're talking about averages.
Yes. On an average, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Face card alone.

Speaker 1 And I'm mad ICE is not here because I want to ask him if this is my New York bias, my Bernice views.

Speaker 1 No, no. No.
Yeah, I don't think so. We have Instagram.
Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's true.
I don't have anything else that I need to get off of my

Speaker 1 mind and spirit and soul. How about you guys?

Speaker 1 Call me a fucking stud?

Speaker 1 I mean, bro, you seriously.

Speaker 1 Yo, you look serious. You look like a Nikki.
I'm a fucking son.

Speaker 1 And whatever he did to his hair, there's something going on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now you got to go lay something down.

Speaker 1 Now you got to just go bonkers out there.

Speaker 1 Muggsy going for 30 tonight.

Speaker 1 Yo, stop

Speaker 1 Muggy is fucking easy.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. All right.
Sleeper, sleeper, sleeper, sleeper, sleepers. Sleeper, sleepers, sleepers.

Speaker 1 Sleepers, sleepers. I did see sitters, actually.
I'll take that. Oh, on the way up.
You saw it too. Oh, please.
No one else here saw it. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 I texted the the group chat nobody answered nobody said nothing back y'all i said the group chat is not for productive conversation i i'm realizing that

Speaker 1 slowly as things go by sinners was great i really loved it it was uh very tarantino-esque i don't want to do any spoilers or go deep dive because i know y'all are going to see it tonight so uh we'll talk about it on friday but i i really love it i really cannot wait i got date night set up for it and everything oh yeah we we had a little bit of 420 edibles left over so we you know i mean oh you saw it on edibles oh fuck yeah oh

Speaker 1 that's a good idea i'm not gonna lie i like it so much I think I'm gonna go again this week. I'm not mad at that.
That's what's up. That's why you're going again this week.

Speaker 1 I'm going by myself.

Speaker 1 I'm going by myself. The first time I went with my homegirl, we both enjoyed it.
But movies like that, I want to sit by myself and just really watch. Okay.

Speaker 1 Can't shit. I ain't saying nothing, man.
I'm not saying nothing.

Speaker 1 You mugs me outside.

Speaker 1 Lil' Mugs.

Speaker 1 Yo, that's your damn yellow

Speaker 1 mugs.

Speaker 1 All right, I am going

Speaker 1 with

Speaker 1 Destin Conrad. This record is called Kissing in Public.

Speaker 1 Things don't change when I'm with you.

Speaker 1 It don't feel brand new.

Speaker 1 Come on, body.

Speaker 1 Don't hesitate when I kiss you.

Speaker 1 You know I'm with you.

Speaker 1 Call my body.

Speaker 1 You like it, I love it. So you can't get above it.
We kiss it, it only

Speaker 1 gets a discussion.

Speaker 1 You like it, I love it. So love you think it above me.

Speaker 1 We kiss it, it love me, getting up of discussion.

Speaker 1 You're so far from my job, you in LA, I'm in London.

Speaker 1 You're so shy, I wonder why you won't do mine.

Speaker 1 I really wonder why

Speaker 1 it wants wants me dry.

Speaker 1 I could let it slide

Speaker 1 Cause you so fly

Speaker 1 Things don't change when I'm with you,

Speaker 1 it don't feel brand new

Speaker 1 Hold my body

Speaker 1 Don't hesitate when I kiss you

Speaker 1 You know I'm with you

Speaker 1 Come up,

Speaker 1 you like it, I love it. So now you're thinking about it.

Speaker 1 We get

Speaker 1 a bit

Speaker 1 in it of discussion.

Speaker 1 You like it, I love it. So now you're thinking about it.

Speaker 1 We get

Speaker 1 a bit,

Speaker 1 in it all of discussion.

Speaker 1 You'll go really late

Speaker 1 or in the daylight.

Speaker 1 we go side making

Speaker 1 the brain isn't important

Speaker 1 when I'm with you.

Speaker 1 They don't feel brand new.

Speaker 1 Hold my body.

Speaker 1 Don't hesitate when I kiss you.

Speaker 1 You know I'm with you.

Speaker 1 Oh, my body.

Speaker 1 Things won't change when I'm with you.

Speaker 1 You don't feel brand new.

Speaker 1 Hold my body.

Speaker 1 Don't hesitate when I kiss you.

Speaker 1 You know I'm with you.

Speaker 1 Oh, my body.

Speaker 1 You like it? I love it.

Speaker 1 So long, you can hear a lovely, we're kissing, and love me. Hearing it up on the sky.

Speaker 1 You can hear a lovely, we're kissing, and love me.

Speaker 1 Goddamn

Speaker 1 brand new music from Destin Conrad.

Speaker 1 That record is called Kissing in Public. Ayy.

Speaker 1 Available in your phone and on DSPs right this very second. Shout out to Destin Conrad.

Speaker 1 I'm going to play very old music. I found this one.
I was digging the other day and I was just cracking up. This is Don Cove.
I was checking out. She was checking in.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 I just got finished giving the hotel manager back the room key.

Speaker 1 It's some old shit.

Speaker 1 I was outside in the car

Speaker 1 in the shadows of the parking lot.

Speaker 1 Telling the woman I was with

Speaker 1 how happy she made me.

Speaker 1 Kissing and hugging.

Speaker 1 and all of a sudden, another car pulled up on the parking lot.

Speaker 1 But I couldn't believe my eyes because the woman that was sitting in the front seat beside another dude

Speaker 1 turned out to be my old lady.

Speaker 1 Lord, I was checking out

Speaker 1 and she was checking in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny.

Speaker 1 That is funny.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you, people, I was checking out. That is funny.

Speaker 1 And my old lady

Speaker 1 was checking in.

Speaker 1 Oh, Lord Heaven.

Speaker 1 I was with my other woman.

Speaker 1 Hey, when that happens.

Speaker 1 And she

Speaker 1 was with her boyfriend.

Speaker 1 I can't believe she would do that. Wow.

Speaker 1 The nerve bar. Here we go.

Speaker 1 She waited outside, y'all.

Speaker 1 In the car.

Speaker 1 Crazy.

Speaker 1 While he went in, yeah.

Speaker 1 To rent the room.

Speaker 1 I wanted to say something to her.

Speaker 1 But there was nothing I could say.

Speaker 1 because the woman I was with,

Speaker 1 yes, she was married to love.

Speaker 1 I was checking out,

Speaker 1 and she was checking in

Speaker 1 for your children.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 I saw another man took my old lady.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you

Speaker 1 in the hideaway motor.

Speaker 1 I was with my other woman.

Speaker 1 And she was with her boyfriend.

Speaker 1 She was supposed to be at home

Speaker 1 mining the kids. You wanna do that

Speaker 1 to both of us

Speaker 1 have been untrue.

Speaker 1 Guess I'll have to go on

Speaker 1 being blind.

Speaker 1 I can't repeat her guilt

Speaker 1 without

Speaker 1 showing my love.

Speaker 1 I was checking out.

Speaker 1 That is Donald Covey.

Speaker 1 I was checking out.

Speaker 1 She was checking in.

Speaker 1 That song is from 1973.

Speaker 1 Bullshit is tireless. I love it.
I absolutely love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to

Speaker 1 Asian,

Speaker 1 and the song is What's Up With It?

Speaker 1 Let me guess you like

Speaker 1 what you see,

Speaker 1 what you'll sign, you compatible with me.

Speaker 1 I think we are a tissue, I'm a time and ain't for free.

Speaker 1 And if you buck that action, baby, come roll with me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Levias, sliding down the neck.

Speaker 1 Hair dish, you know that she the shit.

Speaker 1 On bread, she bought her own crib.

Speaker 1 Say she want me, don't know who she fucking with. You wanna hurt?

Speaker 1 So you wanna hurt?

Speaker 1 I'm not you in the games.

Speaker 1 But I'll show you what it's worth.

Speaker 1 What's saying the baby? You look a little anxious, baby.

Speaker 1 We could just slide panties to the side. Get a little active, baby.
I act, but ain't acting, baby. Cause she was my favorite lady.
Really, I'm the one. Really didn't come.

Speaker 1 Won't you come save me, baby, baby? Tell me.

Speaker 1 What's up with it?

Speaker 1 What's up with? What's up with ya?

Speaker 1 What's up with? What's up with ya? I ain't about to lie to you on me.

Speaker 1 I know you want me to, baby, don't front.

Speaker 1 It's up

Speaker 1 with it.

Speaker 1 Let me get you inside.

Speaker 1 What you see,

Speaker 1 what's your sign? You compatible with me.

Speaker 1 I think we all are tears that I'm on time and they for free. And you flip out that action, baby, come roll with me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she fly, she rolls a good spill.

Speaker 1 Smart girl, she stay on her ship.

Speaker 1 Ain't no drama, she say money is a miss.

Speaker 1 She at peace, she be saging and shit. You wanna fly?

Speaker 1 So you wanna hurt.

Speaker 1 I'm not doing the games.

Speaker 1 But I'll show you what it's worth.

Speaker 1 You look a little ancient, baby.

Speaker 1 We could just slide panties to the side. Get a little acting, baby.

Speaker 1 Really, I'm the one, but then they come. Won't you come save me, baby, baby?

Speaker 1 I ain't about to lie to you.

Speaker 1 I ain't about to lie to you.

Speaker 1 I know you want me to. Maybe don't front out.

Speaker 1 That's what's up with it by AGIN. That's a bop.

Speaker 1 I fuck with it. I don't know.
You guys got to like fight for who goes next.

Speaker 1 We go in Senority Water. He's next.
Okay. That's patient.

Speaker 1 So diplomatic of you. It's great.

Speaker 1 This record is, I believe her name is Tab Tobia.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm saying your name wrong, I'm sorry, but it's uh to be a how much I care.

Speaker 1 I know that you're nothing new.

Speaker 1 I'm in love with you,

Speaker 1 but I'm sure she's sure.

Speaker 1 even though I'm worth it,

Speaker 1 I'll make it up to you

Speaker 1 as much as I like to control it.

Speaker 1 I want you to choose.

Speaker 1 I'm happy a little

Speaker 1 unsure.

Speaker 1 I'm maybe too strong, to show you.

Speaker 1 Let me find a way to tell you.

Speaker 1 I will find a way to show you.

Speaker 1 Just how much I really care.

Speaker 1 I know

Speaker 1 you didn't even know.

Speaker 1 I know that you're overthinking.

Speaker 1 That's best

Speaker 1 Let's believe in love.

Speaker 1 Like I told you, I'm so

Speaker 1 I'm not showing why I got

Speaker 1 Handscape from the start.

Speaker 1 Let's believe

Speaker 1 coming so

Speaker 1 I didn't choose to be in love

Speaker 1 with you.

Speaker 1 It's what you do to me.

Speaker 1 I make me a little

Speaker 1 unsure.

Speaker 1 I'll make me too strong to do you.

Speaker 1 Let me find a way to tell you.

Speaker 1 I will find a way to show you.

Speaker 1 Just how much I really care.

Speaker 1 I might be a little

Speaker 1 true.

Speaker 1 I'll make it too shy to show you.

Speaker 1 Let me find a way to tell you.

Speaker 1 I will find a way to show you.

Speaker 1 She's not much I really can't.

Speaker 1 That is,

Speaker 1 I want to make sure I say her name.

Speaker 1 To buy a bit,

Speaker 1 it looks like Tobia to me, but I could tell you. No, you know her.
Nah, no, no, no, I just bumped into the record the other day.

Speaker 1 No, bumped into the record the other day.

Speaker 1 But sorry if pronouncing your name wrong, but that's how much I care for

Speaker 1 a record. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mark, up next, our brother. What tome?

Speaker 1 Wiz Khalifa just dropped the album last week. The whole album is fire.

Speaker 1 And I chose How We Act, featuring OT Jennis. Let's go.

Speaker 1 That's two pounds that I clutch. I'm cushing orange juice too.
So put two fings in the air, grab two girls with all hair. And light some up with Wiz Khalifa, y'all.

Speaker 1 Both pins on the wheel.

Speaker 1 She was Taylor Gang, she tailor gang still.

Speaker 1 Them niggas born, she hit me, she wanna chill. Let her play with the switch, she know the game signs sealed.
I'm on tequila, she on Hennessy.

Speaker 1 Love that cushion orange you, she never knew how I feel.

Speaker 1 Hanging on nothing, running up the hill. For real, I feel my cup and cleaning up its fill.

Speaker 1 Wanna indulge in what I'm puffing?

Speaker 1 I can tell that she troublesome two girls. That's double fun.
Show off what you got, don't gotta cover up.

Speaker 1 Don't look behind to see what's in front of us. Life is weed, there's a couple of them.
Say you gon' get it tattered. If it ain't the gang, fuck em.

Speaker 1 Don't really trip on other bitches, you the main one. Switching up whips, I never pull up in the same one.

Speaker 1 She wanna cuddle, I wanna cuddle too. Legs in the air, dick in the middle, that's a W.

Speaker 1 Hey, tryna fuck, you better say something.

Speaker 1 Mashed potatoes, rice, and beans, you ain't the main one. Only hope you can get your cake up.
I never met an A

Speaker 1 or a bitch that I came up. Still hitting it from the back

Speaker 1 That's how he act I'm the one that you hit up to come relax

Speaker 1 I'm the one getting you tailored gang tats Putting that all on your body, rubbing your back I'm rolling up and you rolling the match I can sew in my back

Speaker 1 You wanna drink but don't know how to ask

Speaker 1 You love the feeling, you hope that it lasts Cause at the moment we both feel intense No, I'm gon' get a chance Nobody put you on the game, help you program it in Don't wanna leave, you wanna stay with me, so it depends

Speaker 1 One of the G, you really got one.

Speaker 1 I just know how to win. Like what I see, you need a roly to go on your wrist.
Me and my team, we make the goal, we don't hold me attend. So, like this weaver, get your phone, cause no homie and whim.

Speaker 1 Ain't no half with me, 100's the only percent.

Speaker 1 She wanna cuddle, I wanna cuddle too. Legs in the air, dick in the middle, that's a W.

Speaker 1 Ain't tryna fuck, you better say something. Mashed potatoes, rice, and beans, you ain't the main ones.
All that hating, get your cake up. I never met an Aiden or a bitch that I came up.

Speaker 1 Still hitting it from the back.

Speaker 1 That's how we act.

Speaker 1 That's Wiz Khalifa at OT Genesis, How We Act off Cushion Orange Juice, Volume 2. Fire.
Shout out to Wiz. Shout out to Wiz.
If you haven't seen our Wiz interviews on Patreon right now, check it out.

Speaker 1 Check it out. Amazing.
Yeah, cooler than Other Side of the Pillow. Shout out to Wiz.

Speaker 1 Was that it? That's it. Oh, the last of it? Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. So, let me

Speaker 1 find something here.

Speaker 1 Find a little Diddy. Find a little more Mark Morrison b-side or something.

Speaker 1 You had to play that? Y'all want to play a little Diddy? You should look for Mark Morrison B-sides.

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Nice, peaceful day. Static philosophy.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you.

Speaker 1 Hingo separation are going off like a detonation. I want it all fucking reparation.
I do it all with no hesitation. Keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.

Speaker 1 We bid you a due farewell. Adios Cereba Dirchi Osta La Vista.
Au revoir, so long. Goodbye.
A simple head nod will suffice. Over time, I've been too humble.
Trying to hump the wages.

Speaker 1 Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past.

Speaker 1 So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And lastly,

Speaker 1 ego, whatever.

Speaker 1 The bandies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel. The closed-minded women want you to cheat some things.
Grab a title, you might need it.

Speaker 1 Better be careful what you say out there. Never know who'll be seated in the garden right in front of you.

Speaker 1 Yes, or recording you.

Speaker 1 You never know. Gotta be careful at all times.

Speaker 1 Head on a swivel in New York, man.

Speaker 1 Stay safe.

Speaker 1 Safety first.

Speaker 1 Listen, man.

Speaker 1 Do what you gotta do to get home to my home tonight.

Speaker 1 Make it back to your family, your children. They love you.

Speaker 1 Hey, remember, your kids see you as Captain America, man. You're a superhero to them.

Speaker 1 Niggas outside see you as Captain Kangaroo.

Speaker 1 Captain Crunch.

Speaker 1 Captain Crunch.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Some of us stayed alive through the World Star era.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Niggas was playing knockout and screaming World Star in the background. Oh, that was a nasty crazy hundred.
Be careful, man.

Speaker 1 They're going to tell the world how much money you make.

Speaker 1 Make sure your horny is contained to a nominal level.

Speaker 1 I don't think that black men should be running around saying, yo, 100 M's next month. I'm not sure that anybody should, but yeah, especially, maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No one should.

Speaker 1 Especially

Speaker 1 if you black.

Speaker 1 Fucking Joe Rogan, man. He got niggas just saying, it was.
That's what did it. Spotify did it.
It was nobody else. Spotify did this.
These companies have just ruined us.

Speaker 1 And I took them public, man.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that was the intention, man. I would have did something different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it hates me. I don't give a fuck, nigga.
Why is that?

Speaker 1 Look what you created.

Speaker 1 Look what you created.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Ice Flip and Mel. Yo, we miss y'all.
We miss y'all. We love y'all.
Work was a lot harder without y'all today, but we managed to get through it. Indeed.

Speaker 1 They with us in spirit. Shout out to Freeze.
This is a happy anniversary to Freeze and Miss Freeze.

Speaker 1 Shout out to our good sister Mel. Shout out to Flip, who's a little under the weather.
Get well, get well. Get well, get better, man.
We need you. We need you on Friday.

Speaker 1 Hey, when you sick on a Wednesday, I would just tough it out and use that day for the Friday.

Speaker 1 Get a little extended trip.

Speaker 1 Not wrong. Shout out to my dad going to Puerto Rico next weekend with his lady for a little fun time.
Hey!

Speaker 1 Salute. I ain't gonna lie.
I need one of them weekends. I need a quick weekend in Turks or DR or fucking somewhere.

Speaker 1 Y'all take me a little national. That's good for me.

Speaker 1 Then we're doing Puerto Rico later in the summer. Puerto Rico for me is in August.
See, what weekend?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Where you staying at out there? I'm supposed to go to Tennessee and May.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you still in that phase of your life. What are you talking about? You still in that phase of your life.
I hate the assumptions. She's going to tape you.
Somebody going to tape you.

Speaker 1 Yo, and again, whoever has the footage of my last fight, please release it.

Speaker 1 And please put it out so we can dispel some of this stuff, man.

Speaker 1 It is tough.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I ain't got nothing going on this week, man.
Not that I can think of anyway. Sinners tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 I did see the first episode of Black Mirror finally. Boy, that was great.
Yeah, first episode was great. Amazing.
The first two were great. What a really great episode.

Speaker 1 Let me stop the music of Black Mirror. That was a a great first episode.
It was. Because it's real.
It is. You could see it.
100%.

Speaker 1 Dog, not to spoil it for anybody out there, but I'm going to spoil it.

Speaker 1 If my robot wife is now doing ads,

Speaker 1 I'm going to plug it in. You didn't get the ad-free version of your wife is nuts.
Mark, have you seen the first episode of Black Mirror? I haven't seen it. I'm not either.

Speaker 1 The way Mel said it, they didn't.

Speaker 1 They just popped it up over. Yeah, yeah.
You didn't know there was an ad-free version of that. No, you didn't know that.
Yeah, that's crazy. You didn't.
But every month there was a new plus,

Speaker 1 living plus that you could get. And you got to charge you more now.
And if you get pregnant, we got to charge you more now.

Speaker 1 And at the end, you know,

Speaker 1 I don't want to spoil it. I'm going to watch it.
I'm going to watch it. I don't want to spoil it.
But really good way to bounce back, Black Mary.

Speaker 1 Just off that first episode, that's better than that last doppelganger, whatever the name of that bullshit was y'all put out. Oh, yeah.
I forgot the name of it.

Speaker 1 Episode two was good, too. too.
Besides, episode two was good. The end was a little weird.
A little stupid ending, but

Speaker 1 the other three were bad. They just weren't as good to me.
Yes, the first two.

Speaker 1 Listen, stay tuned on Patreon. We will be discussing how Jason Statum makes the same exact movie, but I'm going to go and give him my money every single time.
I'm going to see this working man shit.

Speaker 1 You got to watch Last of Us.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. The last episode.

Speaker 1 Last of Us. All the episodes came out.
No, no, no. Only two episodes.
Only two episodes. I seen one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I seen him up. Last of Us started in an amazing way.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Episode one? Two. Episode two.

Speaker 1 I'm saying one was, I ain't seen two yet. One was warm-up.
One was warming it up too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll see. All right, so Last of Us.
I still need to see Godfather Harlem. I finished Yellowstone.
That show is absolutely fed up.

Speaker 1 Front to back. Yeah.
I can't wait to start Yellowstone.

Speaker 1 I see why he gets the green light for all that shit. Got it.

Speaker 1 And he's beefing. Oh, he is? They beef him.

Speaker 1 Until next time.

Speaker 1 You've never heard of Joe Bun. JBP, JBP.
Why would you be without the JBP?

Speaker 1 I'm alive, bitches.