Episode 818 | "Pod & Order"

3h 47m

The latest episode of the JBP opens with a conversation about men overestimating their abilities (8:30) before the room turns to Lil Wayne’s Rolling Stone interview (44:00). In new music, Mozzy’s album ‘INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS’ releases which includes a Tsu Surf record (52:34), Juan Soto’s comments to the NY Post about no longer hitting in front of Aaron Judge (1:12:35), The Godfather of Harlem Soundtrack (1:28:05), and a new record from Tommy Richman & Sexyy Red (1:32:00). Also, BET+ is bringing a ‘Martin’ spinoff ‘The Varnell Hill Show’ which leads the room to debate which shows or movies they would like to see a spinoff of (1:44:55), Tracie Ellis Ross discusses dating and toxic masculinity in latest podcast interview with Michelle Obama (1:51:44), new charges for Luigi Mangione (2:28:15), more from Drake vs. UMG (2:42:03), and much more. 

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Sleeper Picks: 

Joe | Jacob Latimore - “WIN WIN”

Ice | Mozzy & Polo G - “WHO WANT WAR”

Parks | Wiz Khalifa (feat. Juicy J) - “My Influence”

Ish | SHERIE - “FEELS & FEARS”

Melyssa | ELHAE (feat. DrewsThatDude & J-Louis) - “A.N.O.”

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Runtime: 3h 47m

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Speaker 1 The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 1 I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real.
No one is exposing, revealing, indicting,

Speaker 1 or telling you anything about themselves.

Speaker 1 Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.

Speaker 1 We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.

Speaker 1 Enjoy the show.

Speaker 1 Jerome James and DeKimbe Mutumbo. I'm telling you.
Niggas forgot Mutumbo was a nickname. Them niggas was in New York City nightclubs tricking.
Mutumbo had the monster. Becoming

Speaker 1 all everybody Eskimo brother that was in New York City.

Speaker 1 Jerome James and fucking DeKimbe Mutumbo. That's before I knew the Africans had it on lock with the tricking and the chicks, boy.
Yeah, yo, I'm telling you. I'm just saying shit.

Speaker 1 I don't even know if he was African. No, he's African.
All right, good. African, definitely African.
All right, good. I'm right.
Yo, you stupid.

Speaker 1 I'm bad with that geography shit. No,

Speaker 1 you are. The Kimbe one of them.
That nigga was a sniper with a short name. Tell me.
Yeah. Trust me.
But why? Why?

Speaker 1 Tell the audience why.

Speaker 1 Nigga, Spanky and Monkey.

Speaker 1 He talked about that. Nurl said that nigga was, you know what I mean? He spoke French, right?

Speaker 1 He's polybooing your bitch. I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 I don't know the word for

Speaker 1 baseball batting French.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Matumbo was fucking Juan Soto.

Speaker 1 Hey, Aaron Judge. Yo, that nigga was Aaron Judge.
Yeah, Juan Soto ain't doing great. Aaron Judge.
Dog. Oh, Lord.

Speaker 1 Baddies. I'm talking about baddies, bro.
I believe it.

Speaker 1 I'll stop talking to a girl if she fucks up and that's 20-inch. Why?

Speaker 1 I don't see that shit.

Speaker 1 I stopped watching Stephen King movies after a while, too.

Speaker 1 That'd be crazy as hell. Nah, that shit is too.
Hey, bro.

Speaker 1 Aliens.

Speaker 1 You could put a whole coffee table leg inside of you. I'm leaving.
I'll be leaving. I'm leaving.
No, you won't. She.
lied. Hey, Mel.
This is a great time for that talk. You crazy?

Speaker 1 Melissa Savannah Ford. You lying.
This is a great time for that talk. You know how that thing works, right? Yeah.
Just step out of here.

Speaker 1 It don't stay there. That's like, yo, do your girl have a baby, you ain't gonna hit it no more.
Word. I hear y'all.
The baby is different. What's the difference?

Speaker 1 Baby's huge. Baby, you got a table leg.
Baby is mine and it's a blessing from the Lord. But if it's not yours, it's a bundle of joy.

Speaker 1 Yo, what is it? What's up? We're not your kids.

Speaker 1 We mess with single mothers, No, that's ice to do that. Nigga,

Speaker 1 that's ice. Get the fuck off.
What are you talking about? Ice said he fucked the pregnant chick when it wasn't. No, I'm talking about...
No, we're talking about an ace. But you said that, nasty nigga.

Speaker 1 Anyway. You did that? Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was a long time ago. Ice is this.
What's that?

Speaker 1 What? Thank you. Anywho,

Speaker 1 answer her question. Yeah, what's wrong with that?

Speaker 2 If she's not with the baby's father anymore,

Speaker 2 just because she's like pregnant, does that mean she doesn't have any sexual desires? As a matter of fact, I heard it's heightened.

Speaker 1 I did. It is heightened, but.
Okay. I'll pass.
Yeah, but your morals aren't.

Speaker 2 Why is that a morality issue?

Speaker 1 Are you spitting on another nigga's kid? Everyone's morality. I mean, you wear a condom.

Speaker 1 Why? We don't do that anyway.

Speaker 1 She already pregnant.

Speaker 1 That's true. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ice, you did that wrong.

Speaker 1 Man, can we start the pod, bro? We did.

Speaker 1 You talking to ice, my nigga.

Speaker 1 What does that mean? Ice. Yeah,

Speaker 1 Ice folks are nasty chicks. That's true.
Yeah. I'm the only one, right?

Speaker 1 Hold on. I'm the only one who's on the mission.

Speaker 1 You're the only one that's fucked. You're not the only one, buddy.
All right.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Maybe his level is to nasty.

Speaker 1 Ice fucked that girl that put the Hennessy bottle in a twat. That's how I'm sorry, right? No, it does not.
She was. Wait, y'all would do that? You gonna give her the hype? Which end of the house?

Speaker 1 Wait, which ended the Hennessy bottle?

Speaker 1 You good?

Speaker 1 That shit's little.

Speaker 1 It's like a thumb. You could.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, I think you're going to be able to do that. We can follow up behind that.

Speaker 1 Confidently.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 this is the other act. Now we got a problem.

Speaker 1 We got to wait a little bit.

Speaker 1 Let that thing snap back first. You still touch your chair.

Speaker 1 Crazy.

Speaker 1 I used to follow this motherfucking girl in the clubhouse days, in the freaky pandemic days.

Speaker 1 One of them chicks was like, All right, girls, everybody put a picture of the biggest dick they ever been with as they PTR. That's the picture of the Abby.

Speaker 1 Man, this chick I was fly with and posted some fucking galactic shit. I never spoke to that bitch.

Speaker 1 I never spoke to her. I don't follow her.
She hit me talking about it. It was a lot, right?

Speaker 1 Bitch, I don't know how you're walking.

Speaker 1 I don't know how you're walking right now. Yo, bro.
You did what?

Speaker 1 You need the Bible, bitch. You're not hanging out.
You need the Bible. So

Speaker 1 you wasn't

Speaker 1 lying on it.

Speaker 1 Joe's lying. Yo, you got to be lying.
He's lying. It's different hearing about the Ray Rice elevator story and then seeing it.

Speaker 1 You fucked porn stars before. Yes.

Speaker 1 And what you think they was doing? I didn't see their work.

Speaker 1 Yo, shut up.

Speaker 1 All we do is get on these mics and lie.

Speaker 1 All we think is doing is get on these shits right here. This shit just make you lie.

Speaker 1 I have never slept with a porn star where I was familiar with their work. Actually, the porn stars that I met and was familiar with their work, I didn't beat.

Speaker 1 I wish I had a tomato.

Speaker 1 I want you. An orange.
There's just one that's right here.

Speaker 1 You talking about Ronnie Cycley.

Speaker 1 Excuse me? I'm.

Speaker 1 Ronnie Cycle. That one girl.
That's crazy. That one chick that looked like Ronnie Cycle.

Speaker 1 I knew exactly what you were doing. It's fine.
It's crazy. She looked like Ronnie Cycle.

Speaker 1 You know. That was happening.
Adult, but I know one off the top of our head that got,

Speaker 1 she's, she's in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 I think that's Ronnie Cycle.

Speaker 1 Ronnie Cycle in the Hall of Fame shit. Like the basement of fame, though?

Speaker 1 No. In the porn star what? She's in the porn star hall.
That ain't true. The girl I'm talking about.
I'm thinking something different. Is the porn star?

Speaker 1 The one that I'm talking about is Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame. First ballet.
Nigga, I only been with my girl. Fuck y'all.
There you go.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 Yo, whatever I did back when I was dirty, I am denying it. I don't remember.
You deleted it. Yeah.
Because it's gone. You've been clean a little while.
That's what I'm saying. All right.

Speaker 1 So what you had? You've been clean before you met your girl.

Speaker 1 I don't get it. Yeah.
So you were still, you know what I mean? No.

Speaker 1 You had five or six years of cleanliness. Nah.
That you was just. Not before I met my girl.
Yeah, she did. Nah.
It's all right, though. It's not true.
I'm on your team. Bitch, we old.

Speaker 1 I'm on your squad. It's 2025.
And in 2019, you was clean.

Speaker 1 If I'm thinking the same thing, that's not true.

Speaker 1 I had my baby. I wasn't doing shit.

Speaker 1 In 2019, 2018, I had a baby. You my man.
You my man?

Speaker 1 Clean, squeaky. That's what I'm saying.
I was trying to do that whole faithful, get money, give rich shit. Girls are a distracted.
And it worked.

Speaker 1 Hey, I mean, it did work.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Man, the old days was fun.

Speaker 1 Ronnie Cycley.

Speaker 1 I want to see who you're talking about.

Speaker 2 Ronnie Cycley is a porn star?

Speaker 1 No, that's not a story. That's what I was talking about.
I was like, it's a Lemon East basketball player. That's what I saw.
That's what she looked like.

Speaker 1 Go to something where I could type. Yo, you are.
Go to somewhere where I could type so I can let you in on it on the joke. Okay, okay.
And you such a bum, too. Yo.

Speaker 1 It can't be who I think you're talking about. Yes.

Speaker 1 Is First Ballot Hall of Famer? No.

Speaker 1 In porn? Yeah, she is. That's not what I was talking about.
But yeah, she is.

Speaker 1 Crazy. That name I just typed is a first ballot Hall of Famer in the middle of the morning.
No, no, no, don't tell him nothing. I think we might talk about her.
She might want to deny it, do you?

Speaker 1 Not you, though. There you go.
Not you, though. You don't deny it to us.
No, no, no. You forget it.
I will deny it. Forget it.

Speaker 1 She also falls in the other category, too, if I'm thinking of the same person. You know about all the girls I want to deny.

Speaker 1 That's the problem.

Speaker 1 That's the problem. Yo, she does fall in the other category.
Anyway, we can't keep talking to Seagirl in the podcast. But this is a great time, Mel, to talk about

Speaker 1 how men overestimate their abilities.

Speaker 2 Okay, well, we were talking about that off camera, so we'll bring the conversation here. Corey mentioned something about

Speaker 1 the ability to fight.

Speaker 1 Ish kept mentioning my childhood bully.

Speaker 1 I didn't even mention that person. You thought I was talking about him.
And this is the second pod in a row that Ish has mentioned my childhood bully. There's a weird tension between us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there is. You don't say

Speaker 1 he created the tension. This is who I am.
I know.

Speaker 1 So don't put me over there with you. No, you can tell in the audience how the conversation came up.
But it's not. Go ahead.
Let him go. This is exactly how it came.
Let him go. He said one thing.

Speaker 1 I thought one thing. So I told Ish I was going to go sleep my childhood bully and tell him this is because Ish keep bringing you up.
I'm going to slide him. Ish said, no, you're not.

Speaker 2 That's facts.

Speaker 2 That is true. Okay, that's true.

Speaker 1 But he was talking about. And I wasn't even talking about that.
It all matter. And then Corey said, welcome, audience.
We love y'all. And then Corey said something about most men.

Speaker 1 400% of men overestimate their fighting ability, something like that. Their ability to defend themselves.
400%.

Speaker 2 No, not defend themselves. Fight.

Speaker 1 Well, that's defending yourself.

Speaker 1 Yes, it is. Is it really? Yes.
No, it's not. Defending it.
No, that's not what I'm saying. That's slightly different.

Speaker 1 What's the difference? Fighting. Because defending yourself could be curling up in a ball and making it through the night.

Speaker 1 Fight too. When they get on your ass, that's true.

Speaker 1 Everybody don't know how to curl the right way.

Speaker 1 What you talking about? Everybody don't know how to curl. It's a science.
Anyway, but the entire room agreed that 400% of men probably do overestimate their ability to fight.

Speaker 1 No, actually, that's not true.

Speaker 1 That's not a possibility for it to be 400%, but that's true. That man shit wasn't ever my bag.
Oh, they overestimated. Oh, gotcha.
What is that? They overestimate by 400% their abilities to fight.

Speaker 1 That makes sense. It's better when 400%.
Yeah, I like it the other way. And then the whole room agreed.

Speaker 1 And then Mel Savannah took that as her opportunity to shoot at us. I like this vibe she in the day.
She on some shoot first ask questions last year.

Speaker 1 So please expound.

Speaker 2 Well, actually, the whole room didn't agree. They just, y'all just got quiet.
And then I decided to say, oh, that's absolutely true.

Speaker 2 The basketball game was a perfect example of how men overestimate their abilities and then find out in real time that they are not him.

Speaker 1 That's the part where the room got quiet, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We agreed with the first part. We agree with the fucking part.

Speaker 2 Oh, I missed that part.

Speaker 1 Your basketball shit that you tried to do, shoot at us, fucking lower our self-esteem, this little weird tug-a-war that we do here at work.

Speaker 1 That's where we got. Even before the basketball

Speaker 1 example came up, She said, Yeah, that's men. You guys are delusional in your abilities.
And everybody said, I said that?

Speaker 1 Some of this room said we would follow up after Dickie. What's up, bro?

Speaker 1 You're talking about no problem at all.

Speaker 1 I don't care if I'm in there like digging coming.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 You play in triangle?

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck. I'm putting my hip in it, too.

Speaker 1 I love

Speaker 1 God is. I've been here bringing smoke, nigga.

Speaker 1 To me.

Speaker 1 But the chicken let Matumbo fuck ain't gonna let you part. You crazy.
I'll pop.

Speaker 1 I pop a few.

Speaker 1 Yo, don't start your shit, yo. I'm telling you.
I'm on your ass today. Don't start your fucker.
You're growing up beef today. All right, cool.
I'm not fighting today.

Speaker 1 All right. He didn't get it out, yo.
Yo, but why he always fall for it? Every time, yo. Yo, that's not that.
Because Joe be trying to be little niggas. Like, oh, yeah, get your dusty ass out, nigga.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But if you know it's a trick

Speaker 1 then why do you always forgive me that's the beauty of this podcast

Speaker 1 good it's never gonna stop because you throw some bullshit out there and he all the time immediately y'all turned purple over water likes to

Speaker 1 no but i was fucking with him there too

Speaker 1 yo listen joe lying first of all We know Joe's faces, my nigga. Joe got different faces.
When Joe playing around, he got one face. When Joe's serious, he got a different face.

Speaker 1 Nigga, you wasn't playing the other face. I was 100% fucking with you in the water thing.

Speaker 1 No, you wasn't. Any chance in life that I could stab at your ego, I'm doing it because I know you don't play about your ego.
I mean, that's true. That is true.

Speaker 1 But both can be said. It can be said for you, too.

Speaker 1 He don't play for the people either. That can't be said.

Speaker 1 No, no, hold on.

Speaker 1 That's not going to do that.

Speaker 1 Any delusion? Do it.

Speaker 1 Do it. Do it.
Y'all are the most self-deprecating nigga, y'all know. Do it.
That's true.

Speaker 1 Hold on, hold on. That don't matter.
Stop that. You are self-deprecating.
And the things you want to do. The things you want to be about.
Nigga, I just said I wouldn't fuck by my tumbo.

Speaker 1 You think I want to come in here and joke about a little dick? But you would. That's a joke.

Speaker 1 That's a joke.

Speaker 1 I'm joking. But you would.
See, how I have to have. And you have.

Speaker 1 No, but you would, and you have.

Speaker 1 Y'all think I'm as ego-driven as itch.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, no, but not far behind.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, great. So then we don't have to continue this rigman roll of just bullshit here.
Insane, but go ahead, fam.

Speaker 1 You would, and you have.

Speaker 1 Lex still, all them big dick niggas, you pop behind them. Hey, yo.
Come on, man. I've never seen Lex still dick.

Speaker 1 Why the room got quiet? Because he's full of fire. All we do is get on these mics and lie.
I'm not lying.

Speaker 1 Yo, the things that y'all choose to believe

Speaker 1 and disbelieve. I've never seen that.

Speaker 1 We know you watch porn. for 20 years or better and with women

Speaker 1 you who fucking the women you only watch woman on woman porn yes lies lies

Speaker 1 yo you just a special type of person bro yo when people tell you who they are you should believe them you just said

Speaker 1 hold up joker said last yeah

Speaker 1 you just said last week i like my porn with a storyline yes the porns with the storylines is men and women communicating It don't be just women or women talking.

Speaker 1 Because he's lying. Headphones.
I gotta look stupid. Yeah, whatever.
I got headphones in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, go ahead, nigga. You are crazy, son.
I'm walking some crazy shit. Listen to what I'm saying to you, and then we can start.
Welcome, flip, by the way. Thank you, man.
Walk flip.

Speaker 1 Are you mad at me? I'm not mad, but

Speaker 1 welcome to Flip.

Speaker 1 Are you shading me? You're not shading me in front of too many people, are you? We're not gonna do that. Not yet, not now.
Okay, I just make sure I just say what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I mean, I could, but not now. I don't have no reason to.

Speaker 1 I don't have no reason to write myself. I'm not me neither.
Ish.

Speaker 1 That was a great point.

Speaker 1 Now.

Speaker 1 Normally, when the pizza man comes or the plumber comes in the porn.

Speaker 1 It's a woman plumber. No, no, no, no.
He watched the 80s shit. Me too.
Yeah, my shit beats.

Speaker 1 He watched Square Wright. There's a VHS table right there.
I'm still looking for from back in the day.

Speaker 1 I used to ask some shit. I do miss some of the.
I wish I could find some of the vintage pour that I used to like. What? He watches so often when you don't see the dick.
You just see the he watches.

Speaker 1 I'm saying when the plumber dude,

Speaker 1 there's normally about 90 seconds where she's fucking doing something to him, and I'm going to come.

Speaker 1 I'm not coming off the storyline. That's not it.
Bullshit.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Let me ask you a question.
When she's doing something to him, you don't see his face. I think this is disgusting to open a broadcast.
Yeah, but it's the Joe Button. You're the Joe Button.

Speaker 1 It's the Joe Button podcast.

Speaker 1 I agree with you, but answer my man question, though.

Speaker 1 I agree with you, but answer this question, though. What?

Speaker 1 When she's doing something to him, that don't incorporate seeing his dick? Sometimes. About 10%.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 About 10%.

Speaker 1 It's about 10%.

Speaker 1 I know. He got selective vision, nigga.
No, he don't. He's lying.

Speaker 1 Not vision, lying. I don't lie.
Never. You just don't tell the truth all the time.

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas be pulling up the porns with Lex Lutheran.

Speaker 1 You niggas is crazy as that. Was that a nigga that talking that shit too? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my man, what's more? Wesley Pipes.

Speaker 1 Eat your homework.

Speaker 1 Wesley Pipes.

Speaker 1 We never got to ICE's return serve to Mel. Oh, no, I just asked, are men the only ones that do that?

Speaker 2 Absolutely not, but don't deflect. That's what we were talking about, y'all.
Stay there.

Speaker 1 Let's go, male, stand on it. But we are not.

Speaker 1 Y'all are not

Speaker 1 the answer.

Speaker 2 Obviously, both sexes have their own sets of delusion.

Speaker 1 Got it. A thousand percent.
A thousand percent. There's some overlap, but yeah.
Yeah, a thousand percent. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 you'll be willing to identify that delusion in future in the future. Sure.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Wake up. Even after.
Even after. we're going to be.
It's just more podcast lies. It's all

Speaker 1 male.

Speaker 2 No, if he points it out,

Speaker 1 I'll be honest. Lion 4K, nigga.
Calm down with us.

Speaker 1 Lying 4K. Yes.
We are going to do that. Yes.

Speaker 1 Her legs is crossed, so she can get away with the lies. Toes, all that shit.

Speaker 1 Got you.

Speaker 1 I'm not cracking on your feet, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, please stop. Don't do that.
Stop. She looked at me like I was being funny.

Speaker 1 Don't get her started. Y'all talk.
I'm coming. How y'all doing? Doing good, man.

Speaker 1 It's good.

Speaker 1 It's falling after I'm talking.

Speaker 1 That's a great job.

Speaker 1 How's everybody weekend?

Speaker 1 It was good. Wait, wait, wait, week.

Speaker 1 Freeze, you good, freeze? I'm great.

Speaker 1 Shit, you start the morning.

Speaker 1 All the days just blur. They do a little bit.
I'll be forgetting what's what? Eight, eight. Week was crazy, man.
Crazy morning. Oh, yeah.
Crazy one. Everything good? Everything okay? Yo.

Speaker 1 You had to smack somebody. No, no, none of that.
Thank God. Chase anybody in the car? No, no.
Nico. JR got it on camera.

Speaker 1 No, Nico threw some food out the window, and the mayor people came to the house to say about littering. Threw food? Food out of the house window? Dead ass.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the fuck he thinks he almost killed that nigga this morning. And then I'm arguing with my wife about she wanted it's Good Friday.
We don't eat meat. Who are you talking to, girl?

Speaker 1 I don't eat no fish. I want meat.
I don't follow that Good Friday stuff. I don't fuck with you.
You can't pick and choose when you want to be Catholic.

Speaker 1 We're not Catholic here, nigga. We all Caribbean and we all American.
It's Caribbean. It's Indian children, nigga.
Lucky, it's Caribbean Catholics. I don't give a.
Pan-American Catholics.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying is that Good Friday, I don't believe in that, nigga. I want to eat chicken.
Nugge.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We got to eat fish.

Speaker 1 Yo, this morning was crazy, yo. So this is the first for y'all.
And my mother and little cracker joke, oh,

Speaker 1 you think you the boss of that job? Like, what? Like, who you talking to, lady? Like, it's bad shit going on. So I'm like, don't say that.
And I go there and, nigga, Joe, talk shit to me.

Speaker 1 Don't put that in the air. I was about to say, she was talking about up here, yeah.
Like, why are you late? Like, she's looking at her watch. Like, I didn't like that whole shit I didn't like.

Speaker 1 This morning was just a blur. Gotcha.
And I want to get away from it. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I'm going to order some chicken, violet, and I'm going to order it up here and send some pictures to my wife. I'm not expecting none of that.

Speaker 1 You're not going to take it in the house, though.

Speaker 1 She got some people coming up. Got it.
Got it. Got it.
I understand.

Speaker 1 Got it. Play it safe.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Anybody else? How was y'all week? Under vet for working. Working.
Studio, studio. That's it.
That's it.

Speaker 1 Work for a living. Nigga, we all work for a living.
What you mean? I don't know. You still build a home, bro?

Speaker 1 What? I mean, with the foot. Fuck you thinking, baby.

Speaker 1 Are you still going on site? Yes. You sit in the car and shit.
Yo, hey, buddy. Hey, put that up there.
No, they got ramps. Microwave busted my ass yesterday.
You lift the microwave?

Speaker 1 Busting my ass lifting that shit. It's like, come on, bro.
Now you're taking this cheapness to another level. Nigga, pay for it.
Let me work with my wife.

Speaker 1 I was working with my guys. You trying to show more morale, like support? I get down here in the trenches next to you.

Speaker 1 It was busting their ass first.

Speaker 1 What fucking microwave you got, man? He got the word.

Speaker 1 He got that shit over there. He got the.

Speaker 1 What microwave is that heavy, boy? It wasn't heavy. It was just awkward.
It was cumbersome.

Speaker 1 Cumbersome.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So,

Speaker 1 did they end up coming to help you put it in? They was helping me. They were doing it already.

Speaker 2 He's trying to show his staff that he is handy capable.

Speaker 1 So he don't have to pay them, nigga. I know that trick

Speaker 1 I'm doing myself. I got it.
I got it, John. I'm doing you niggas a service for green cause, nigga.
Look, I know that trick, nigga. Pay them niggas to do that, bro.
Yeah, this guy's good.

Speaker 1 And stand back. Got you.

Speaker 1 This guy's kooky.

Speaker 1 Lost the clip I was looking for. I'm mad now.
Oh, man. Oh, man, man.
That's a good one, too, about

Speaker 1 conspiracy theories.

Speaker 1 A little flat earth.

Speaker 1 It was good. Spicy, spicy.
Spicy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, nigga, it was like, I'm not not mad at nobody who don't believe conspiracy theories, but you don't believe in just one?

Speaker 1 Like, just one? You don't believe any? Like, it was funny. Fuck up at it.
He said, you don't believe in any.

Speaker 1 He said, you're not mad at niggas that don't believe in conspiracy theories, but you don't believe in none of them?

Speaker 1 Like, you think the government is just batting a thousand? Yeah, they just tell, they truthful. Telling us shit.
Then he went into some shit about fucking how everybody is God's children.

Speaker 1 He believes that. And he just got one kid, but he lied to that little motherfucker all the time.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. I'm sorry, guys.
It's all right. Damn, now I want to shout a comedian.
I wish I knew his name. Anyway,

Speaker 1 he's lip up in this piece.

Speaker 1 What the fuck they talking about? See you, my man. Good to see you, too, man.

Speaker 1 I see a new shades. It's not new shades.
What happened something, bro? Oh, the material. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Stop that arm flubber.

Speaker 1 Don't stop. I thought that's what he was doing.

Speaker 1 Are you back in the gym? Are you in the gym? I'm in the gym. Oh, back in the gym.

Speaker 1 And you eating well? You been keeping up with your eating habits?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm proud of you. You motivate me.
I'm going to the gym, too. There you go.
Good. There we go.
About the cold cold. Shout out to all my gym ads out there.

Speaker 1 It's getting nice out. Somewhere around the corner.
You know, your men gonna be outside doing legworks. Look at them.

Speaker 1 That shit don't work, boy. What? Yeah,

Speaker 1 no physical therapy niggas will kick your ass. That shit different.

Speaker 1 I heard about that. They put you on a little ball shit that you gotta.
Not yet. They had me pushing down a ball.
Like this. You know the big shit? Yeah.
You gotta push that shit down with your foot.

Speaker 1 Okay. With that foot? Do you be saying ow and shit like that in front of them?

Speaker 1 Ow, shit. Is it a girl? Oh, man.
It's a girl, man.

Speaker 1 He gonna say ow. He gonna say, you ain't gonna say ow.

Speaker 1 You gonna say, ooh.

Speaker 1 You be flirting through it through like a bunch of shit. He's slacking his lips while he pushes the ball down.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 When your barber do your mustache, she touches your lips.

Speaker 1 What the fuck? Yeah, he's talking about that. With the back of the finger, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, in his hand? Yeah. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 Look at how macho he is. I don't remember.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 You probably got a violent, man. I don't remember.
And he's Filipino, so his hand's a little smaller, too. He can ride it down.

Speaker 1 You probably say he's Filipino, so that, you know, they're cut. That's what you.

Speaker 1 I be sleeping, my nigga. I don't.
You sleep as far as you can. Nigga, violating you.

Speaker 1 You don't sleep in a barber chair? No.

Speaker 1 Y'all lying. I'm dead ass.
I'm a grown-ass man.

Speaker 1 Nigga, I'd be in the barber chair gone. That's why your shipping is.
That's why he's seeking you.

Speaker 1 Look at me just.

Speaker 1 You old, nigga. Wake up.

Speaker 1 Paying $200 for a hiccup. How much your hiccup cost? This is holding on to that little tape, bro.
You pay $100 to the Filipino, dude? Damn, he must be a Filipino American. He's not fully Filipino.

Speaker 1 He mixed.

Speaker 1 Why you don't spend that with the black man? Exactly. I did.
You got away with the 30 piece. Y'all know that's the Afrophobia couch.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold up, what

Speaker 1 that's fucked up. If y'all like that, both be hot,

Speaker 1 I don't want to talk to y'all niggas. So, what? We the Afrophobia couch.
That counts,

Speaker 1 that counts don't play right now.

Speaker 1 We're the Afrophobia. That's what he said.
I'm just going by what he said. He's been lying since the mic cut off.

Speaker 1 Yo, if it's an Afro with it, that couch ain't fucked up with it.

Speaker 1 They look really tight now.

Speaker 1 Not at all.

Speaker 1 Shout out to all the parents out there listening, all the kids out there listening. By the way, the name Fresco, the flat range, make your man know he wet though.
If he's run, I got the tech close.

Speaker 1 To you, much respect, though. The bones ain't.
Had to put it on you, but low you. You gotta leave.
I've gotta prove, I've gotta proof. I've gotta proof.
I've gotta prove it.

Speaker 1 We got nice weather out here. We got 70 and 80 degrees out here.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Positive vibes only, positive vibes only.

Speaker 1 Eagle.

Speaker 1 I don't ever

Speaker 1 feel bad.

Speaker 1 I find someone like you're fine,

Speaker 1 I feel

Speaker 1 soci

Speaker 1 with the things you do.

Speaker 1 I'm never back.

Speaker 1 Always for the ladies, always for the ladies.

Speaker 1 Shout out to all the stock groups out there, all the nine to five is all the entrepreneurs out there.

Speaker 1 All the giveaways, play on the roads in the family.

Speaker 1 You can make me happy.

Speaker 1 You can make me happy.

Speaker 1 Happy.

Speaker 1 We gotta expand.

Speaker 1 New York, Chicago,

Speaker 1 LA, LA.

Speaker 1 We gotta set our own heart and enforce it.

Speaker 1 Champagne wishes a caviar dreams of peanuts dittin' cream. We sell some of the music.
Yeah, man, for my niggas at the guard walk right now.

Speaker 1 and steambaths. We've seen half of Lily that's in out there on the queen's half.
Three major players didn't papers by the layers. And those that were dreaders on the block and walk out my layers.

Speaker 1 Maybe used to shoot the targets. Soon as the darkest, front on the drug market, body steep rolled up in the carpet.
Those are cheaters trying to beat us. We got hooks for heaters.

Speaker 1 That's hip poppin' for more chosen as top. Then the leaders, the leaders.
Looking straight to me and I'm Georgie Obama.

Speaker 1 The Sheila rollers, Monty Bowler, slipping bowler, holding that pay. Alright, we got a great show lined up for y'all today.
Me and Black don't fake yet, but we might might sling one.

Speaker 1 It ain't no shame in our game, we do our thing, son. Living a fast life with fast cars.
Everywhere we go, people know who we are. We don't have a piece with the American dreams.

Speaker 1 So if button up a skin, you get the seventh big degree.

Speaker 1 I hate to have to cut that off right there.

Speaker 1 But I did it. Yeah, don't trust me.

Speaker 1 money to live with. I'm going to step back.
Look at my life as a whole. Ain't no love.
It's either devil or so. I'm so born.

Speaker 1 He's not helping you. Trying to get the slexes up.
That's a self-healing.

Speaker 1 What up, cousin? I can't cope with all these crap niggas trying to shorten my mom.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, it's horrible.

Speaker 1 That's horrible.

Speaker 1 That's horrible. I'm sorry.
Shout out to Nord.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the whole Queens. Want to get this applause going for the best crew in the whole wide world.

Speaker 1 Fuckers they talking about. Shout out to my mom listening.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the parents out there listening.

Speaker 1 We sound a complete mess when my mom put us on that little Alexa and start making breakfast, boy. That shit sound ignorant.

Speaker 1 It don't sound like a dude in the room.

Speaker 1 Flip and Mel, Mel, Mel.

Speaker 1 He's not even here right now.

Speaker 1 He's always here. Hey, yo, hey, yo, your tactics.
Hey, yo, listen, listen.

Speaker 1 Hold on, let me talk to you. Yo, we get it.
We get it, man. You in a great space.
We get it. He came and lifted things up, nigga.
But, but, okay.

Speaker 1 Give this lady a drop, the proper drop that she deserves. She's a drop.
She's got a shot as a drop. She's no, no, that's a perverter drop and you guys should be ashamed of yourself.

Speaker 1 You guys should be ashamed of yourself. I didn't say it.
This was me doing the women at the work?

Speaker 1 Give this lady a proper drop that she deserves. She's the face.
Niggas know Melissa for it. Hey, hey, now me mark, Eti, and that shit.
I mean, when we get one, it makes sense for Mel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, give her a proper one.

Speaker 1 When we get one, we can't force it. But you forced that.
No, I didn't. That's not his voice, though.
I bumped into this and absolutely love this. Oh, you gave him two.
And when I bump into

Speaker 1 one that I love for Mel, we're going to do one for Mel. Please make sure you get one for us.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Get one for my girl.

Speaker 2 There was one time where you guys, where you thought you'd picked mine.

Speaker 1 Let's go, Mahell. There was one time.
And you remember it, right?

Speaker 2 Oh, I absolutely remember it. I don't remember the context, but I know that we were kind of ganging up on you.

Speaker 1 That's weird.

Speaker 2 And then I said, I said something about rock-a-bye, baby.

Speaker 1 Do you remember when that happened?

Speaker 1 She reaching for her.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 you said,

Speaker 2 y'all were like, maybe that's the drop.

Speaker 1 That's not the drop, girl.

Speaker 1 Reddit, do your thing. Find that episode.
No, we know that. Find that episode.
episode. Oh, okay.
We know the episode. She's talking about the painting.
No, but also, the fact that y'all said it.

Speaker 1 You said it. Community.

Speaker 1 I call upon you again. Organize them.

Speaker 1 I call upon you.

Speaker 1 Hit me on the back channel. Drive me somewhere this weekend.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Can you pick up my laundry? Give me a studio.

Speaker 1 And I need an editor. Oh, God.
And you want to go out to eat and

Speaker 1 girl, you're so cool. Here's my number.

Speaker 1 text me.

Speaker 1 Stop it. It's all y'all.

Speaker 1 I don't make another. I just give you.
My presence is the money.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 She run up a bill, boy. Yo, but you leave Mel alone.
Don't. What are you selling? No, but you go crazy and it'll be funny.
And it be true. You be leading these shit.
And it be true.

Speaker 1 I'll tell people about Mel. And we're not starting.
No, not too much of Mel. Stop it.
Not too much of Mel. Stop that.

Speaker 1 Leave motherfuck alone. We tired of you.
That's true.

Speaker 1 No more freeze. Mel ain't paying for shit this summer.
Not at all.

Speaker 1 This summer? Every summer.

Speaker 1 She get away with it. I be trying.
That shit I work with, Flip.

Speaker 1 Nigga, give me your money. We don't give a fuck about none of that shit.
Come here, Mel. What episode is this? 818.
Welcome to episode 818. 800s are going really great, by the way.

Speaker 1 Welcome to episode 818 of the Joe Button podcast, brought to you by Few Buy Power by Pride.

Speaker 1 Yeah, private, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with the best crew in the entire world.
To my right, Miss Miss Pro Bono herself,

Speaker 1 Melissa Ford is in the building.

Speaker 1 Oh, she put the pro.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 1 Oh, what?

Speaker 1 Moving right along. No, you beat.
But that's just funny. It's nothing.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Okay, go ahead.
We've established Mel's defense comes up when she comes in here and she's just on guard for shit. That's facts.
I was just saying,

Speaker 1 I don't blame her. She put the pro in pro bono.
Okay. That's it.

Speaker 1 Jesus. You are a pro? Optimist.
You're professional. Right? Yes, you right? To her, right.

Speaker 1 Big queen flip in the building. Queen flip.

Speaker 1 Yep. Yep.

Speaker 1 To his right.

Speaker 1 Oh, Mr. Modest himself.

Speaker 1 Mr. Shy Brother number one.
Hey.

Speaker 1 Mr. Lick his lips a million times when he walked in the club walk around by his bodies and see these pictures.
Mr.

Speaker 1 Mr. squint his eyes and don't know that he squints his eyes

Speaker 1 mister living a state of dissolution.

Speaker 1 Let me not shoot him a man. Anyway, King Wawa in the building issues in the building.
Make some noise.

Speaker 1 And I've seen you on the other podcast again. Killed it.
Bodied it.

Speaker 1 That nigga voice be strong. When that boy gets to another podcast,

Speaker 1 he's representing for us.

Speaker 1 Yo, here's what he fire. Let me tell you something about women, y'all.
Listen, look at me. You know, women don't

Speaker 1 niggas squint and look at right.

Speaker 1 You try not to look at the camera. That's a trick, to look around the room.
Nigga, no, we know you looking. I saw on A, so he can respond to Zalia Banks.

Speaker 1 What does Zalia Banks say? Wait, AB shot at you? Yeah, she's seen that little podcast clip. Uh-oh.
Oh, shit. Good luck.
Oh, you see what she said? Hi, Zalia. I don't know.

Speaker 1 That ain't gonna work me down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That ain't gonna work. You better Wikipedia.

Speaker 1 That little hot day. I don't want no problems.
This one here. Just don't give me your phone number.
You'll be fine. I don't want no problems.
Oh, my lord. Anyway, Big Freeze is in the building.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir. Ice is here.
King Elmira. Parks is here.
Poetry and Corey is here. Erickson is here.
Who knows who else is back there in that fucking room?

Speaker 1 Savon and Tan are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here.
What's poppin'? Everybody feeling good? Feeling good? Feeling good? Man, feeling great.

Speaker 1 Feeling great. Anybody do anything super exciting this week? If not, we can get right to bullshit.
Today's my anniversary with my baby, so happy. Oh, that's your anniversary.

Speaker 1 So what do you be celebrating all weekend? Oh, nice. Where you going? Nice.

Speaker 1 Out.

Speaker 1 Outside. I can't say it.
She's going to watch this, bro. Oh, surprise.
Ah, you're getting your romantic.

Speaker 1 For sure. He still believes in surprises.
I like that, man. Absolutely.
Yeah, wait till you get to the dying. When does that die?

Speaker 1 What? When does that die? That shit die for me a long time. Hey, y'all, I'm going to get you something, yo.
It's right there. Go ahead, check.

Speaker 1 What you want? You want this? Here's a brochure. Tell me what you want.
Nah. Fuck all that surprise shit, yo.
I love that surprise shit. I know, I can tell.

Speaker 1 Some people don't know how to take surprises. When are you celebrating tomorrow? This weekend.
Well, that's today.

Speaker 1 It's the whole weekend.

Speaker 1 We going on a trip. It starts today.
Ooh, freeze. How long have you been together? Three years today.
Come on, y'all.

Speaker 1 Come on, y'all. You give me your all, nigga.
Give me your all in the beginning. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You give me your all, nigga. Nah, dead ass.
You give your all at the front. Here, take everything.

Speaker 1 I commend her because part of that three years was the beard dye things, too. Was that that shit?

Speaker 1 The Mojo Jojo shit off. Keep staring at that fucking shit.
Nah, he did his thing. And it's just denying that he ever used beard dye on this podcast, right?

Speaker 1 Because I was watching old episodes, nigga. He probably got stressor while he was up here.
You talked about that?

Speaker 1 He got more stress.

Speaker 1 That's true. He got more stress while he was up here arguing, yelling and shit.
He got a lot beard dying in my life, nigga.

Speaker 1 I like that sort of shit. Then you stressed a lot in your time here.
I stressed that nigga.

Speaker 1 My hair was mad curly in the beginning.

Speaker 1 I had a half fun. You stressing this nigga out, yo.
It ain't me. It's Mandy telling him how to fucking do a contract.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. That's the other nigga niggas talking.

Speaker 1 Damn, that's fucked up. I feel bad now.
Why? Because you did have the special egg curls when you came up here. You had it made.

Speaker 1 Yes, it was black a little bit, too. You should have more gray.
I know. Yeah, stress, right?

Speaker 1 It ain't stress, it's life, man. Life is stressful.
Living.

Speaker 1 Just living, man.

Speaker 1 Yo, I went to...

Speaker 1 Nobody asked you where you went. No, my God.

Speaker 1 Don't do that.

Speaker 1 Exactly. This is what he do.

Speaker 1 Nobody said, yo, where did you go? If anything interesting,

Speaker 1 I got it.

Speaker 1 You can do that. Come on, let me make it about him.
Of course, thank you.

Speaker 1 I went to your homegirl's birthday party. Bernice, it was nice.
She brought the baddies out. The OGs came outside, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 The OGs. The OG baddies is out.
Do you think that they refer to themselves as that? No, they didn't like when I I said that on camera, but they're the OG baddies. I don't care.
They came outside.

Speaker 1 It was nice.

Speaker 1 It was beautiful. They asked for you, too.
People asked for you. Yo, Joe.
You didn't go? No, he ain't doing that, man. No smart bad.

Speaker 1 Very smart. Very smart.
Squad.

Speaker 1 No, no, just sleepy.

Speaker 1 I saw enough footage to know that. You should not someone in here.

Speaker 1 I can miss this one. Yeah.
I can miss it. Yeah.
Well, Ish, why didn't you go? Cause

Speaker 1 smart. It's not my thing.
That's true. These niggas, and I don't know those people like that.

Speaker 1 I think you would have known quite a few people in that room. Why do you think that?

Speaker 1 What would prompts you to think that? You were outside. You've been outside.

Speaker 2 You know people. And people know you.

Speaker 1 It's a possibility.

Speaker 1 It's not my bag.

Speaker 1 What part of that wouldn't have been your bag? I can't figure it out either, man.

Speaker 1 That was your ex-gym partner, though. You could have went.

Speaker 1 I didn't know about it. Oh, nor did I.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Well, then, there's that. I did not know about it, but if I had.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.
Yo, I ain't going to lie. I saw some pictures and video.
Moment of silence for you bitches because it's Benice's birthday, yo. Hold up.
Dead ass.

Speaker 1 Everybody mute up real quick. Moment of silence.
Just give it like 90 seconds, like five minutes, even.

Speaker 1 14 minutes. Yeah, that's what we should just 30 minutes.
A little 30-minute block of silence. Fuck.
And friend of the show. Yes.

Speaker 1 She came up here, interview of the year.

Speaker 1 She bodied it. Oh, man.
Yeah, I was not good. Listen, buddy.

Speaker 1 The more I thought about it, because I forgot who it was. I forgot who it was.
Bernice was just technically like, hey, it's a little fly. So I was like, oh, shit, Bernice party.

Speaker 1 But once I got to really thinking about who it was, what it was. And what it was going to be,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.
Play it safe. Just stay right here in the bed.
Home is kind of comfy.

Speaker 1 You're scared some of them niggas was going to be. Home is the house.
No, he wasn't. No, man.

Speaker 1 I didn't see too many dudes today. What, nigga? Mutumbo is dead.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace. Rest in peace.
There's some other Mutumbos out there.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't know. Look.
Oh, you're keeping track of the Lex Lutheran nigga. He's got him in your phone.
No.

Speaker 1 You told us you got him in your phone. Oh, my God.
I told you something. You remember everything I told you, too, right? It's the pot.
No, nigga, don't worry about what's in my phone.

Speaker 1 What's in your phone? Let's switch phones. It's not a problem.
Exactly. It's not a problem because I don't know how to work on Android.
Anyway, yeah, Mona Silas for you bitches.

Speaker 1 It's Bernice's birthday, and she's still fine and beautiful. Skin looks great as ever.
I had to cut the video off for a minute.

Speaker 1 You was watching live stream?

Speaker 1 No, dude. Cut Victor Bets, I'm watching the live stream.

Speaker 1 And I am nothing aware of that shit, but it looked like a good time.

Speaker 1 Glad you went. It was a

Speaker 1 shout out to Bernice. Dope.

Speaker 1 I think I knew one other person that was there. Shout out to everybody.
You know a lot of people that was there.

Speaker 1 You can't go because you know, you know, you know. John Wick would have shown right on up with you.

Speaker 1 She wanted me to go. We're going skating.
Well, she said she wanted me to go. Is she here?

Speaker 1 Look at she wanted to go. That's why you can't go.

Speaker 1 She's here, isn't she? No, no, but I could have went. She would have been here.
You could have. She would have.

Speaker 1 They asked me to have. You do whatever you want.
They love Joe.

Speaker 1 I like that. But like, yo, hey.

Speaker 1 Where's Joe? That's the embarrassing part. Because when I saw the clips, I saw a flip.

Speaker 1 So I knew somebody would associate me with him.

Speaker 1 Associate you with me. So when they saw him, they would say,

Speaker 1 Where's Joe? And he would get to spinning around.

Speaker 1 Hey, look at you.

Speaker 1 You look at me.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, oh, shit, I didn't do that.

Speaker 1 If I knew he was going, I would have went. Just so I could have represented myself.

Speaker 1 They know you don't want.

Speaker 1 Flip every swarty part one. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 1 Don't let it back. Never.
Nigga, watch your fucking mouth, nigga. Are you crazy? Don't say that.

Speaker 1 Watch your mouth, nigga. Hey.
He don't say none of that flip the network shit. What he out.
You crazy. He'll say, Woody, none of you niggas.
Queen split all the way. Oh, my God.
Stop.

Speaker 1 I'm in a great mood, and I won't let y'all fucking do it. He be going to the narrative, niggas be saying, say, oh, baby, using Joe Name.
Nigga, no, we don't. Niggas got their own niggas.

Speaker 1 I've never seen Davey using Joe Name. name.
What?

Speaker 1 Stop it. I never saw that.
Niggas be saying that. Joe don't want y'all to use his name, and niggas keep using Joe's name to get clout.

Speaker 1 I saw that verse. They say that about you and Mel, huh? They don't say that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes, they said that about Mel and myself, but that's not true with me. I don't use your name to get out.
I don't think it's true for either of y'all. Okay.

Speaker 1 I true with you, nigga. That's fucking hilarious.
Yeah, exactly. Right, ma'am? Melissa fucking force.
You don't need to use your name, nigga. They say your flip with Joe.
Where your man at?

Speaker 1 Oh, he's home. He's chilling oh yeah how you doing good says you said what you about to say is he on his way

Speaker 1 so now you want me to rep for you in that way

Speaker 1 he on his way

Speaker 1 come on let's get to it let's get to it what is most important to you guys

Speaker 1 well then it's music first or

Speaker 1 not really

Speaker 1 about music no more

Speaker 1 There don't be that much music to give a fuck about.

Speaker 1 I mean, I've been cracking up over Lil Wayne Lyon.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's true. That's music, I guess.
Yeah, he's on a, it was a Rollestone. Was it Roller Stone? Rolls.
Yeah, Rollo Stone. Roller Stone cover article about him.
And

Speaker 1 Wayne got to stop. I don't remember.
There were so many lies in there. I don't even know where to start.
How do you guys know his lies again?

Speaker 1 Because we're smart. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, what was the biggest one?

Speaker 1 He never knew that Jay-Z and Kanye made Watch the Throne.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he didn't know that Jay-Z and Kanye made an album together.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 But he doesn't even be lying. He could just be going through one of his phases.
He could just go. Somebody knows that Jay-Z and Kanye West made an album together.
He knows that. He's the first.

Speaker 1 Stupid lies. Mal lies.
Stupid lies. Like another.
Okay. The interviewer, here's another one that was in there.

Speaker 1 The interviewer walked in there. He had two free Dirk shirts laying on the couch.
Yeah. And he said he didn't know Dirk was in jail.
Oh, nah.

Speaker 1 just trolled.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Oh, he's just trolling. Okay.
Nah, I believe that one before to watch the throne.

Speaker 1 Same.

Speaker 2 He might not be paying attention to Dirk being in jail, whatever his circumstances are.

Speaker 1 But watch the throne. I have two shirts right here in my room that I possibly was going to wear one of them.
In Wayne's room. Yes.
Oh, the t-shirts belong to him? The interviewer walked into Wayne's

Speaker 1 golden floor, gotcha. They were just in there.

Speaker 1 God damn it. All right, fine.
Tell her that, yo. Okay, that's crazy.
All right.

Speaker 1 I like lying.

Speaker 1 Just make him a little believe. Really, really bad lies.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Said he didn't know not like us was about Drake. That's true.
He did say that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, come on.

Speaker 1 He said, yo, when y'all saw me dancing to that shit, I had no idea it was about Drake. He said, when I was singing along to it, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Drake's name is in the song.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 Oh, I forgot that part against yeah it's in the lyrics my

Speaker 1 yo what if he just really disconnected from reality joe say drake what if the nigga just like it says say drake in the song i know but what if he just like what if he's the other drake what if he just in his head and he say ovi hoe who else is about he probably ain't listen to the whole lyrics i think little wayne hates a lot of people and just won't say it

Speaker 1 But I've been saying that for years. You have.
I think that's some stand-up shit, though. I think sometimes the...

Speaker 1 expounding. It's better than expounding on points, especially, you know, interviewers that try to trip you out.

Speaker 1 It's the way I get out of it.

Speaker 2 Or you could say, don't ask me about that.

Speaker 1 I was just getting ready to say, an artist of Wayne's stature, I could have a list of shit y'all can't ask me about. A thousand percent.
Don't ask me, and I know these are hot topics.

Speaker 1 Don't ask me about it.

Speaker 2 Or don't do interviews.

Speaker 1 Maybe, no, maybe he wants to maintain the fact that he's candidate. He wants to be open with the interviewer.
That

Speaker 1 there's no question off the table.

Speaker 1 There's no question off the table. I'm going to ask it.
I'm a lot. I rap a lot and shit.
Yeah, ask me whatever you want, nigga. And I'm going to just lie my way through it.

Speaker 1 I kind of agree with the line on the joint.

Speaker 1 What was the moment? I'm still laughing at him saying 21 Savage is a group. But that was years ago.
Once I heard that, I was like, you know what? Wayne do just be skateboarding and just

Speaker 1 in his own world, watching ESC. Disconnected from this shit.
Yeah, but these are just like, you don't have to do it. I mean, you got an album coming out, so I guess you do have to do it.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, what was the purpose of the article?

Speaker 1 He has an album coming out. Okay, cool.
Carter 6, right? Carter 6. Yes.
Yeah. He talked about the Trump stuff, too.
Just more. Like, I didn't know such and such was going on.
I'm not mad at him.

Speaker 1 Just lie and say, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Get through it.

Speaker 1 I don't want to take a side. I don't want to piss nobody off.
I just want to be in the studio, smoke my weed. I need to sell my.

Speaker 1 But listen.

Speaker 1 Some people are disconnected from reality. I can speak.

Speaker 1 That's true. Some people just remove themselves from a lot of things.
Or just don't.

Speaker 1 They don't be in their world. Yeah, that shit don't be.
You be in your own fucking world, not even paying attention to the fucking internet or whatever. Jay-Z and Kanye.

Speaker 1 That's all right.

Speaker 1 Not like us. You can't be in this world and not know not like us.
He said him and Kendrick was cool, right? Or whatever. So they spoke to the phone.

Speaker 1 So he's not interested in the Super Bowl shit no more.

Speaker 1 The moment's gone. It felt like it was taken from him, so he don't.

Speaker 1 I am interested. It sounds like him and

Speaker 1 Wyclefer doing the album. Carter Sex sounds like it's executive proofs by Y Clef yeah he he he the features are Y Clef Miley Cyrus Elephant Man Machine Gun Kelly Bono

Speaker 1 Kanye West on production uh his son Cameron Carter

Speaker 1 that don't excite me it doesn't I don't care about features it does I'm more interested it doesn't excite me because Wayne can make a song and I think they cleared up uh the who was it Miley Cyrus put something out uh Billie Eilish

Speaker 1 y'all don't really seem excited about carter carter six i was i was excited and we don't have to come in here and talk about shit that you're not excited about i was excited about carter six i'll be honest like i he dropped a little project before called the fix before the six i was excited to hear that wayne can still rap like can't take that away from him i want to hear him rap with some of the people today that can rap.

Speaker 1 So when I see this list of features, this damn near nothing is telling me this ain't going to be a rap album

Speaker 1 that's why i'm not excited the why clef executive production doesn't tell me he's gonna go out and get a bunch of like super rappy shit it sounds like it's gonna be well put together songs yeah i think it's gonna be amazing songs

Speaker 1 why would you say um i ain't heard no rappers

Speaker 1 i guess like if you look at carda three it was good quality songs on that album yeah and he went outside the box yo what makes y'all care about music today

Speaker 1 good music yeah um

Speaker 1 i think it's habitual what do you mean something that like wayne is wayne wayne is great there's classics in his carter series

Speaker 1 so you could just go listen to those his history is his history and i'm still sitting here just like

Speaker 1 what makes me care is if i if if i feel you have something to say like you went through something Now I want to hear you put it in music.

Speaker 1 Or, you know, because again, with social media, we see everybody's life damn near so if something major happens and now you're in the studio i want to hear how you navigate navigate that and i want to hear you put it in the track put an album there are certain people that curate albums better you know storytelling throughout the entire album so those are the things that excite me

Speaker 1 before an album comes out

Speaker 1 it's hard for me to be excited about like listing features like we just say that like who gives a fuck features can do it for me though yeah

Speaker 1 it would take a lot for yeah

Speaker 1 Depending on artists. Veaches could definitely get me excited.
It would have to be like a shocker. Like, if he had Kendrick Lamar on the album or something, it'd be like, okay, that's exciting.

Speaker 1 I wonder what that would sound like. And this is from the same people that told me that Wayne's Prime was coming up soon.

Speaker 1 Huh? I didn't say his prime was coming up soon. Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 1 They love when I fucking remember some shit that they forgot about. No, you just be remembering certain ways.
We never said his prime was coming up soon. What did you say?

Speaker 1 He still raps at a high level. He said his prime is coming.

Speaker 1 He's still rapping at a high level. He's still in his prime.
That's all we were saying. He's still rapping at a high level.
So y'all didn't say he was still in his prime. No.

Speaker 2 They said that he's rapping at a high level, but his prime was, because I asked, and you guys said it was.

Speaker 1 He's peaked. Yeah.
But he's still high. It ain't been a sharp decline where it's like, all right, he's washed the fuck up now.
I believe I use the term plateaued. Yeah.
Got it. Yes, you did.

Speaker 1 I remember that. If I recall.

Speaker 1 And I'm still rushing.

Speaker 1 When is this coming out? I believe it's June.

Speaker 1 But I'm still rushing for for it. All right, Rolling Stone.
Don't do that again.

Speaker 1 Don't do that again. You got me sitting here talking about the fucking Carter Six and the A-block and this shit don't drop till June.

Speaker 1 Fucking Rolling Stone. Yo, Rolling Stone.
I'm done with Rolling Stone. He did it first.

Speaker 1 I think it was the Thursday before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 He was like, I have an announcement. And the announcement was Carter Six coming in June.
And I was like, all right. Well, I guess you wanted to get some of that Super Bowl steam.

Speaker 1 Is there any other music to drop?

Speaker 1 We got a verse for surf.

Speaker 1 Hey, big surf. Free surf.
Mozzie. Free surf.
Yes. Mozzie dropped a new album today.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 And I saw the track up there, Free Surf, featuring surf. So normally I listen to Mozzie albums straight through.
I ran right there.

Speaker 1 I'm usually not a fan of jail phone verses. But he absolutely smoked this verse.

Speaker 1 I was going to play as a sleeper. You want to play a little bit, Parkstep?

Speaker 1 Let's get to it. Big surf.

Speaker 1 Brand new surf over the jail phone.

Speaker 1 Love this trend.

Speaker 3 Never cooperated with the fuzz. It's still love, but some shit never be what it was.
Some shit ain't supposed to change.

Speaker 3 Shame when it does. Court cases took slugs.
Rico came, I ain't buzzed. Shoulder struggles.
Shit. I ain't trying to say that I'm a thug.
I was just only cuz doing burpees with the bloods to get cold.

Speaker 3 Temperature changing, interrogation, nigga froze. Hearing the wrong nigga telling shit hurt your soul.
The fakes get exposed. He used to be my dog, he a fraud, cause he told.

Speaker 3 You ever want to chill when they up, so ain't no chillin' out. Ever had that thrill on the drill, know what that feeling about? Never trust a nigga, but you didn't have to fill him out.

Speaker 1 Ever had a family hate you cause you failed to kill out.

Speaker 3 I tell all the killers, kill a killer, that's a bonus. If you hit a bishop or a rook, you get a rollie.
I pay double, double for a king, like Sabonis. And now I ain't no trap nigga.

Speaker 3 I just buy shit, wait for a drought, then I tax niggas. Carrying my city since a jit, got my back bigger.
Find you a humble little bitch, and then you snack with her.

Speaker 3 She tells me she buy cool, perfect, I'll let cat lick her. Shit, still free to savages.
LeBron say nothing to the people, so I gave him status.

Speaker 3 They try to give him four letters, ain't that nigga cabbage. Of course, it's cripped, but that G-WAC, bitch a Brabus.
Prosecutors tryna paint a nigga evil.

Speaker 3 They forget you till they realize they need you. Level 7, pin lockdown, bumpin' seagull.
Told me love hurts like the Packers virtue eagles.

Speaker 3 It's like, I don't really write shit, cause it's real life shit. Three cosigners, two houses, still a flight risk.
Judge a black woman to prosecute a white bitch.

Speaker 3 Cuz gave me hygiene products in the ice pick. A homie coda finished with his father.
They both took the time. He copped out the 20.
His daddy took a dime. I feel bad for his daughter.

Speaker 3 I I feel sorry for his mom. They did that court shit together before Bronnie and LeBron.
From glass windows in that living room, there's not enough living room.

Speaker 3 Mama said the lawyers need a hundred shit. Get it to him.
Enhancements cause them block 40, 30, that's with the talk. Homies ain't your homie.
Age circles are sneaking toward. We in the desk.

Speaker 3 They throw a number. Shit, I'm praying for it.
Tennels, you tell, we got killed. You tough love.
Look, my man at death, them calls recorded, don't be sending threats.

Speaker 3 It seems like every time she say she about to nut, you have a minute left. I hate those.

Speaker 1 Jesus, it's on the phone call, ain't it?

Speaker 3 bankrolls. Axe the ops, we chased down like the bank closed.
You don't appreciate your freedom to that gate close. I'm getting tired of this street shit.

Speaker 3 Had to watch my daughter graduate from a free print.

Speaker 1 Man, you can picture that.

Speaker 3 60 months for them hammers. Ain't no teller what they talking if a switch attached.
How you let his pain out? We was on lockdown. They found out his mother had died till he came out.

Speaker 3 He been laying on his bunk for some days and the days just dazed out.

Speaker 1 Man, I know that's pain. Ouch.
If it ain't 10 toes, don't respect it.

Speaker 3 They need a driver more than the shooter because of his record. He only lost an eye in that scuffle.
That shit a blessing. They waited till he got in the shower.
They called him nicking.

Speaker 3 Know his baby mother a freak. She got him stressing.

Speaker 1 How you know that gun is working?

Speaker 1 Alpha cap alpha shit. We was guilty of stepping.

Speaker 3 Alpha cap alpha shit. We was guilty of stepping.
You already fucking know, man. Biggest jersey shit, man.

Speaker 1 That was dope. Yeah, that was

Speaker 1 free the wave.

Speaker 1 Nah,

Speaker 1 that's funny. Are you serious?

Speaker 1 Oh, that would be me in jail.

Speaker 1 That would be me wondering what my favorite headbuster is out there.

Speaker 1 I would be in jail so sad.

Speaker 1 Yo, the other inmates looking at you, Dan. I know his bitch is a freak.

Speaker 1 Being here with a migraine, balled up, won't stop crying.

Speaker 1 That was absolutely fire. Absolutely fire, yo.
Way to go, surf. Shout out to Mozzie.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Mozzie.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the jail phones. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Way to go. Use the old phone call.
Yeah, he did the old shit. The old shit.
Get the good pro tools like, you know what I mean? Holy shit.

Speaker 1 I said that this little jail stint was going to make Surf come home a better rapper. That was an amazing verse, Surf.

Speaker 1 But you gone. So you don't know it's 70 and 80 degrees right this second i'm gonna put this up

Speaker 1 wait till it rains a little bit this nigga sound i'm sitting here getting depressed i'm like when does this end

Speaker 1 you don't know what he was saying

Speaker 1 as hell they come out of lockdown and his mom died and yo dog no not today no saying

Speaker 1 no sir saying huh your man pine right now i'm not playing with surf what you was listening to in a walking

Speaker 1 Not really listening to it. Don't do that.
Don't do that. I wasn't really listening to it.
No, you staffed to.

Speaker 1 All right, get your shit out.

Speaker 1 Barb came out and said the same thing.

Speaker 1 He's playing Summer Love Lost.

Speaker 1 Loud on the phone.

Speaker 1 In my pocket.

Speaker 1 I cut it off when Only Human came on. I was like, nah, it's too hot for this.

Speaker 1 Way too nice outside. I was like, all right, that's what you want today?

Speaker 1 God damn, sir. There's some shit going on in the jail.
You don't say

Speaker 1 nigga lost the eye in the scuffle. That was the.
I want to hug this nigga. Best case scenario.
It's that nigga, yeah. God damn it, man.
Yeah. Surf, I love you, but not this weekend, buddy.

Speaker 1 When it rains.

Speaker 1 I'm not playing with sir. You crazy as hell.
Wiz dropped the album. That's pretty

Speaker 1 summary.

Speaker 1 Wiz.

Speaker 1 Hey, Big Tay.

Speaker 1 It's album. Cushion OJ2.
Okay. It's the follow-up of the.
I can't tell you the difference. Yeah, so.
Yeah, pretty much. It's not a very West Coast influence.
I saw a lot of DJ Quick.

Speaker 1 I saw a lot of Jason Martin.

Speaker 1 And Wiz will be up here in a little bit, so we'll ask him about it. Yeah, for sure.
For sure. We'll ask about it.
But I want to shout him up. Shout out to Wiz.

Speaker 1 Anything else in music? Anything on y'all RB sides? You know, I don't listen over there.

Speaker 1 Do you listen to new music? What's that? Her and Ish have no idea what's happening.

Speaker 1 Why do you say that? Do you listen to new music?

Speaker 1 Of course. not the ones why your sleepers so fire but you be so quiet on the music section yeah not the ones you get

Speaker 1 off most of the sleepers that i put out unless somebody put out a whole project it'd just be singles like niggas that release singles

Speaker 1 but you be finding all of the fire though hell yeah

Speaker 1 man

Speaker 1 so on the sleepers you section you jordan you like mike

Speaker 1 body that but you know what it comes for some reason in the music section when we tossed you for r b you can't do it you don't toss to me for r b we talking to you now i just did we just tossed it.

Speaker 1 You saying it like that's the normal thing that we do. No, not normal.
If somebody put a project out that I hit. It ain't got to be a project.

Speaker 1 How you

Speaker 1 music? How you acquire your sleeping shit? You can't really do it, huh? Why can't I? I could.

Speaker 1 Who came in here and broke the Mada project? Me. Who came in here and broke the Mada? That was me.
That wasn't you. That was me.
That wasn't you. It was me.

Speaker 1 I paid two or three singles off Made a Project before you even knew what it was. I played about four of those.
I know. After me.
No, no, no. It's okay.
That's not true. I broke the Made of Project.

Speaker 1 You got it. But as I was saying, it's okay, though, though.
Shout out to Maida, friend of the show. Shout out to Mada.
Shout out to Mata. So you get the upper sleepers, the unknown ones.

Speaker 1 How you get them? You just. I like it.
For real. It depends on the circumstances.
I go through the new music that drops. Oh, you go through cuttings.
You go to the recorder.

Speaker 1 No, no, wait, chill, nigga. You don't have iTunes.
You just. I do.
Why don't I got iTunes? On there?

Speaker 1 You go to the record store? I got YouTube music, but it's the same shit. Got it.
Okay. Okay.
And they do the same shit. Well, you played the sleep off Alex Isley.
She dropped. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 I told you the project was dope. I was about to play a whole nother one.
No, it dropped now. What up?

Speaker 1 Okay. And I heard those.
This is the new music segment.

Speaker 1 And there is a project that dropped now. Hey, yo, there's something up with you now.
I'm going to get that to the bottom of this shit.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get that to the bottom of your shit.

Speaker 1 You just point it out to me. You don't talk during these sleeping segments.
You just lick your lips. You be dog whistling through sleepers, nigga.
Yo, I got this shit. Oh, my God.
What's that?

Speaker 1 This YouTube music, right? Oh, what is this? Who sent it to you, though? That's a sentence YouTube music. That's a scent.

Speaker 1 That's a sentence. That's a sentence.

Speaker 1 I sent it to Parks. Then I send you my sleep art.

Speaker 1 Okay. I have a voice.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 It's all right. Is it fire to talk about it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, talk a little bit. What's up? All right, fam.
Put me on. I don't listen to it.
You know, because that's that fucks up his shit. That fucks up this.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Puts up the bread. Oh.
He keeps that shit exclusive. This shit is strictly exclusive.
I ain't going to talk about it or nothing, nigga. I'm going to just play it and watch they big me up.

Speaker 1 Because me and Mel got the sleeping competition and my shit be up. I'm going to play.

Speaker 1 Me and Mel. I'm a sleeping competition.
So you don't have nothing for us in the music, you and Mel. No, I don't have anything for you in the music.

Speaker 1 Mel, you listen to.

Speaker 1 Shout out.

Speaker 1 I do, yes.

Speaker 2 My tastes, I'm nostalgic with my tastes. You know, other than like listening to like current RB, a lot of the times in the car, I'm listening to

Speaker 1 yo, Mel brought

Speaker 1 a car to South Jersey, the dog to South Jersey, and then said,

Speaker 1 oh, no,

Speaker 1 nothing's gonna to happen.

Speaker 1 Yo, Mel bought the overnight bag.

Speaker 1 I think about that a lot when you told that little story. You just be saying shit.

Speaker 1 Yo, you talking to niggas who have fucked and

Speaker 1 know when

Speaker 1 about to happen. Why did this come to your mind, bro? Because I listened to our podcast.
That's why. She brought the dog, the car, the overnight bag.

Speaker 1 And everything that said, I ain't going home. There's no overnight bag.
Everything said.

Speaker 2 Okay, stop.

Speaker 1 Tonight's campaign.

Speaker 1 Tonight's tonight.

Speaker 1 We ain't gonna do that. We ain't gonna do that.
Yo, do you know that men know when tonight's tonight we gonna crack something? Do you know that part at least tell me? Crack!

Speaker 1 I know when I'm gonna crack something. Hey!

Speaker 1 I absolutely know. Bigger bad! Let's go, bro.
I don't think you can say that to your coworkers, but whatever.

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 I know it. What? Is there a time that you got cracked that you ain't the

Speaker 1 guy didn't think that was going to happen?

Speaker 1 Never mind. He got us stuck.

Speaker 1 Stuck in the bench, huh?

Speaker 1 I'm sure.

Speaker 2 I didn't really give it some thoughts.

Speaker 1 No, it's okay. It's okay.

Speaker 2 I'll just go with yes.

Speaker 1 We're good. We're good.
I'll just go with yes. You're doing your little wing shit right now.

Speaker 1 I don't remember.

Speaker 1 There you go. There you go, big man.

Speaker 1 The dog.

Speaker 2 But there was no overnight bag.

Speaker 1 She stayed on that. You was the fucking overnight bag.
Whoa. Pack them up.

Speaker 1 That means you was going to do that old school 50-year-old lady trick where you don't need a bag when you just come in and drop everything.

Speaker 1 She comes in and do that shit.

Speaker 1 I'm so comfortable.

Speaker 1 Man, I just want to walk around naked like a mermaid.

Speaker 1 Take your ass back to Edgewater, girl. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Tell myself. You got a t-shirt.
You got some shirts. You got some shirts.

Speaker 1 You got some shows.

Speaker 1 Do I

Speaker 1 know? He killed you.

Speaker 1 What color? The sirens came.

Speaker 1 Arielle, nigga. Yo, that nigga girl fucked up a good night.

Speaker 1 That was about to be a tie.

Speaker 1 Tell his stupid ass girlfriend. Nigga, he some all-offs and a t-shirt and a heartbeat.

Speaker 1 That nigga thought his girl was somewhere. She wasn't.

Speaker 1 She popped up, nigga. He ain't fucking Melissa Ford.
He's crazy.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Anywho's

Speaker 1 what are we up, Prosper? It is.

Speaker 1 It's time for our favorite part of the show.

Speaker 1 Right on time.

Speaker 1 Good one.

Speaker 1 I remember one time I took a biagraph thinking it was going to happen and it didn't.

Speaker 1 Yo, the blue one? I've done that before. Yeah, that's hard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've done that before. Would you just leave? Yeah, like what happened? Nigga, you gotta let it out.
Yeah, exactly. You gotta let it out.

Speaker 1 That'll work.

Speaker 1 You better, that shit still sitting right there. Yeah, nigga, you let it out.

Speaker 1 You let it out, it's gonna come back. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I know what you're talking about. You let the dog eye come.

Speaker 1 Nigga, gonna take a shower in cold water, nigga, or something to try to do mad shit.

Speaker 2 Doesn't it last like four hours?

Speaker 1 Yo, why are you trying to find out how long it lasts?

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 are you crazy? Don't start that again. Are you different?

Speaker 1 She does.

Speaker 1 I I mean the pill.

Speaker 1 Remember before Viagra, it was the little stone. No.

Speaker 1 No, I don't.

Speaker 1 Niggas never had stone. We talked about kidney stone, nigga.
Niggas never had that.

Speaker 1 It was a little stone they sold at the Chinese market. You take that little stone and you rub some of your bags.
Like a crystal? Oh, I do remember this actually. Yeah, nigga, I know you do.

Speaker 1 You're sitting here for me. You do remember this actually.
You got to wet it and then you rub it on your meat and it desensitizes your meat a little bit. Niggas do anything to not go natural, yo.

Speaker 1 Just go dope. You're just sitting for a long time.
Yeah, you want that shit, boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, boy. You numbed as shit.

Speaker 1 You took back aggravated.

Speaker 1 You took the horse tranquilizer, nigga. You've been wilding, son.
Horse tranquilizer. Get your shit the gas station shit.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a shit with a horse on it, nigga. You know what I'm talking about? That nigga 50 just experimenting with.

Speaker 1 It's seven men in here.

Speaker 1 Every nigga in here has tried some shit for their dick. I haven't.

Speaker 1 Ever. No.

Speaker 1 Now you feel dumb. You drunk to my tote.

Speaker 1 That was disgusting.

Speaker 1 Seven niggas in here. Yeah, the tote was that was natural.
It's going natural, yo. You go natural, nigga.
That should damn. You had a prescription.
It didn't do shit either, bro.

Speaker 1 I don't have a prescription. Stop, stop.

Speaker 1 I can't. You just lied.
Stop, though. I don't have any prescription.
You have a father.

Speaker 1 Now you're a rat. Wow.
That's like dumping. That's my mission shit, ain't it? That's my man.
So you can. That was nuts.
That was great. I'm going to call you.
That's my man. That was absolutely.

Speaker 1 Yo, you blew up that whole operation? No.

Speaker 1 Pop Joe's my man.

Speaker 1 That was crazy.

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Speaker 1 that says more than 43 points, rebounds, and assists because it's not what we're doing today.

Speaker 1 Sorry. Sorry.
Keep playing with Cade. Listen, buddy.
Yo, you Piston fans and even some people from the Pistons organization have started to hit me with disrespect in my phone now.

Speaker 1 You disrespected them.

Speaker 1 Okay. How did I disrespect them? I said Knicks and five.
That's not disrespectful.

Speaker 1 I like what they've done, and I like a few people on that team. I'm not trying to disrespect them.
I think my team is going to win. That's it.
The Pistons are getting a little crazy

Speaker 1 with some of the chitter chatter and these fucking texts.

Speaker 1 Let's slow it down. I'm going to be easy.

Speaker 1 But I want to address some of y'all. Actually, fucking.

Speaker 1 Jared Jack might come here today. He's with the Pistons.
I didn't even know that. That's just my man.
Yeah. He told me, ah, I heard you talking that shit.

Speaker 1 I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa he assistant over there said you with them he said yeah

Speaker 1 he is oh brother man why do the pistons think that this is a thing they just won 20 games last year just got here the lights are bright the lights are bright just be respectful they remind me of y'all

Speaker 1 all right no i'm saying that the the uh the growth that y'all made from year to year the knicks are

Speaker 1 made a great jump they made a great they did they did make a great jump shout out to the pistons you niggas niggas are going home soon.

Speaker 1 You niggas are going home. Winning this first game.
What's that shit they be? You know what they

Speaker 1 go get you a Coney. We're going to send you right to the Conies.

Speaker 1 Rider?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. First game is tonight.
Next game is Monday night. And you going to the game? For sure.
Come on. Both?

Speaker 1 We'll see. We'll see.
No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to both.
But if I knew that Jerry Jack was with the Pistons, I would have went to both.

Speaker 1 Because the game one tickets they had was behind the Pistons bench, and I get mad doing that. I get mad.
Don't put me behind the opposing team's bench. These niggas are 6'11.

Speaker 1 The coaches are sitting on top of the thing. You can't see the game.

Speaker 1 That's not a pleasurable experience at all.

Speaker 1 Unless it was.

Speaker 1 What team was what?

Speaker 2 Park said he thought you were scared.

Speaker 1 I'm scared of what?

Speaker 1 6'11?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a different type of choke.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a different type of check.

Speaker 1 You would not. That's a different type of choke.
You would not. You would not.
Ish, if I'm sitting in Madison Square. You would not.
I'm telling you right now. You would not Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 1 They PJ Carlos Mo You. And Isaiah Stewart turns around and chokes the shit out of me in the garden on camera in front of Tracy Morgan, feet off the ground.
It's happening, my brother. It's happening.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to drive. That's going to be the first time I drive to your house.

Speaker 1 I'm going to drive to your house. For help? No.
Show him what that settlement looks like. So he could be so sick of love songs.

Speaker 1 I'm going to land it at it right outside his crib. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to land that shit on your block.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't. Loud ass helicopter.
I don't know why you keep saying that. No, you wouldn't.
I'm going to just get choked out for free.

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Speaker 1 Okay, what was our sports fight we were having? Not really a fight.

Speaker 1 We started talking about the,

Speaker 1 we started, it was a baseball conversation first. Yeah, Juan Soto.

Speaker 1 And what you started talking about Juan Soto, and you said that he came on the news and was like, you know, I'm just going through a slump.

Speaker 1 It was a privilege to be hitting behind or hitting behind. Yeah, Juan Soto said it's a little different

Speaker 1 without the best hitter in baseball batting behind you, referring to Aaron Judge and the Yankees last season. So I'm just like, yo, dog, we don't want to hear that shit if I give you

Speaker 1 $700 million. Ever.
True. I don't want to hear about the Yankees.
I don't want to hear about the best hitter in baseball, nigga.

Speaker 1 You're the best hitter in the basement. The Bronx, the Dykeman.
Yeah, nothing.

Speaker 1 None of that shit. If I give you $700 million.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Facts.
And be clear, nobody here thinks that that will continue for Juan Sola. That's tough.
But, yeah, right the second, it's looking bad. But with regards to the $700 million,

Speaker 1 I start talking about it's hard to maintain a certain level of focus when you start getting paid that high. And we just see it across all sports.

Speaker 1 Like when these niggas niggas get that lick, unless you just got a different type of dog mentality in you to be the best of the best. Which you should if you get 750 million dollars.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, but I got it. You should put the dog in you if nothing else.

Speaker 1 I had that when I was broke.

Speaker 1 It's very few. Kobe's.

Speaker 1 I think Anthony Edwards has the dog in him. I think Tatum got dog in him.
A lot of these athletes don't have no dog in them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the strange thing is, like, money doesn't really incentivize.

Speaker 1 I'm on the total opposite side of this tape. What about Jordan?

Speaker 1 I think that

Speaker 1 if you get $700 million,

Speaker 1 then,

Speaker 1 first of all, I don't even think the niggas that's them normal people you're talking about, the people that get it, and then I think that your focus shouldn't be a new hurdle now after you get $700 million.

Speaker 1 I think an organization should be able to pay you that type of money. The last thing we want to hear about is your focus now because you have so much money.

Speaker 1 I don't even think the people that warrant that type of coin,

Speaker 1 focus is not an issue there. Now, if you happen to sneak by the cracks,

Speaker 1 what? How many niggas kick up in their contract year? Most of them. Well, mad niggas kick up in their contract year, and next year,

Speaker 1 mediocrity is calling me. Well, that's a thing in sports.
So, I'm not so

Speaker 1 that's not what I'm arguing. Yeah, but that's not what I'm arguing.
I'm talking about the creme de la creme. I'm talking about the people that get

Speaker 1 record-changing bags. No, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 Those people,

Speaker 1 there's no way in the world you pay those people what you're supposed to pay them and now got to worry about their focus and them performing.

Speaker 1 No, you're getting this because your focus and performing is different than the rest of the field.

Speaker 1 There's nothing more frustrating as a fan of a team is watching someone get the bag and then fall the fuck off. Yeah.
Nigga, our Dicken McTumbo talk came from Jerome James.

Speaker 1 When y'all gave him all that bread after that one, two good playoff series, and that nigga was in every club with us,

Speaker 1 Eskimoing. Yeah, but that's Jerome James.
That's kind of my point. He wasn't.

Speaker 1 He ain't that. He happened to sneak by.
Well, not sneak by. He had a good run and got paid

Speaker 1 what was a big bag back in the day, 30 million, five years or something of that sort. But he wasn't what I'm talking about.
Gotcha. I'm talking about Juan Soto.

Speaker 1 Pat Mahomes, Aaron Judge, Kobe Bryant. Yeah, I'm talking about those guys.
It's not a focus thing. Aaron Judge is going to have a bad two months coming up because he does that every year.

Speaker 1 There's a two-month that's just like, oh shit, what is he doing? He's wild. But it don't be he's not focused.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think you're getting that money if you have a problem with focus.

Speaker 1 It happens, but it should. Very rare.
Yeah, it happens. I think it's very rare.
Shit. Very rare.
My guy Tyreek got whatever he wanted handed to him. He's doing whatever the fuck he wants to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, bro. I think, I'm telling you, I think that.
You think he's not focused. What?

Speaker 1 On what? On what? He focused on

Speaker 1 not on football. He focused on Miami life.

Speaker 1 Didn't he get traded back? No, he's still there. Yo, you be falling for too much shit.
Tyreek Hill did not get traded back.

Speaker 1 I just came across it.

Speaker 1 But he's focused on Miami. What are the other.
So he's having a blast out there. He's having too much fun.
He's having too much fun. Fuck football.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, two years ago, this is the year. He did not play.
He didn't do shit this year. I drafted him.
He ain't produced. He didn't do shit.
So I just think it's hard to do. Did the Dolphins produce?

Speaker 1 No. He didn't have a quarterback for six games together.

Speaker 1 But still, the falloff was not in proportion. I think it's hard to maintain a certain level of professionalism and really, really, really be focused when you attain certain shit.

Speaker 1 It's like chasing a girl that you always wanted to get and now you got her and you start taking it for granted. Oh, I don't know nothing about that.
I know you don't. Not you.

Speaker 1 And y'all don't. Think that's him competing with me.
I said you don't. Not competing, but shooting, though.

Speaker 1 Competing

Speaker 1 competing that's absolutely shooting yeah all right shooting yes yes shooting in in the spirit of competition maybe

Speaker 1 all right there we go all right scott pointed out

Speaker 1 who chased more see that's the competition

Speaker 1 and there's the competition that's him yeah and that's what i was getting at early

Speaker 1 that's what i was getting wait what that's what i was getting

Speaker 1 the second something is said

Speaker 1 you immediately go who more who more rank everybody that's the ego speaking a lot of words for i'm inquisitive No,

Speaker 1 a lot of words.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of words for, yo, as soon as something is said, you inquire to learn more. No, you want to compare to the rest of everyone else.
No, not the rest of everyone else.

Speaker 1 Wait, I don't ask everybody else. No, I'm just trying to ask instances here, but I'm saying there's other things that will come up and he'll say.

Speaker 1 Rank the room. All right, oh, I'm this.
Okay, well,

Speaker 1 my brain works. If you say something about chasing, okay, now let's talk about

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 You can't remotely compare. I didn't hear what you said.
You can't remotely compare. I'm asking.
You, nigga.

Speaker 1 oh your state of the lulu is different different yo dog do we not we every the nick well your some of us in this room know joe when he set his sights on a woman it's over am i lying ice no it's over it's razor sharp focus he's looking for the max deal

Speaker 1 he's looking for the power that wants 700 million i can see that when you set your sights boy you talking to me

Speaker 2 Okay, maybe. And then he doesn't want to lose.

Speaker 1 It's not even competing, though. He's competing amongst himself.
See, look, you always.

Speaker 1 to get the girl he's competing amongst himself that is 24 7 no but i'm talking about the losing because he the sights get set and y'all know it so then he really has to no that's not it ain't even that that

Speaker 1 is like

Speaker 1 he don't tunnel vision yo the horse with the blind is running apart nothing i don't see nothing but her yeah that's him but that's not what chase implies for me

Speaker 1 What's Chase?

Speaker 1 Let's define things. That's courtship.
But anybody on court that way? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's courtship. You shut the court down.
What y'all just described to me is

Speaker 1 a chase is your courting is futile. It's

Speaker 1 you ain't put you don't even have a chance. Are you still on it? Not necessarily.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, that's thirsty. That's chase.
That ain't chase. Thirsty is part of chase.
Chase. It is part of chase.
The chase. You're chasing.

Speaker 1 But the chase don't mean that you can't, you don't have a chance. You don't have a chance.

Speaker 1 That's not true at all. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 She might just be running a little bit and she she wants you to be persistent you're gonna chase yeah yeah but it don't mean you got a shot yeah that's when i put that pat riley plan together it was the bucket was scored so you've never chased yes i have chased okay let's not be foolish okay i just want to did you get them

Speaker 1 yes all right so you ain't get all of them

Speaker 1 you got everything you ever chase for i'm asking i'm not trying to be fun just answer the question i'm not trying to be funny

Speaker 1 we men my you struck out sometimes

Speaker 1 i just answered her and said that but you talking about to what clip no you said you chased.

Speaker 2 You didn't say that.

Speaker 1 And they said,

Speaker 1 okay, you said yes. I'm positive there was a time that I chased and didn't get it.
Like, let's not be stupid here. Respect.
I'm sure that that has happened before. Okay.
Once. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. Once.

Speaker 1 But that part of my gift is

Speaker 1 when I've visioned something, I'm able to help it manifest. Oh.

Speaker 1 And then if it don't manifest, you just say you ain't really want it. Yeah, right? You talk to yourself? That dunk.
Yo. You cook and freeze.
You a gospel

Speaker 1 anyway.

Speaker 1 I'm just asking. That just didn't happen a lot with me.
My God has been really, really good to me, Ice, in my life.

Speaker 1 Especially in that

Speaker 1 field. Like, my God has been great to me.

Speaker 1 Like, I can't complain about nothing. I'm sure what y'all are saying has happened at some point.

Speaker 1 But it's just so little

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 my work counts. My story.
And you have to happy in the

Speaker 1 happily

Speaker 1 ever after.

Speaker 1 It's the weekend, so we could be fucking nigga cavemen for a second. Fuck it.
I don't mind it. Let me mute up.

Speaker 1 Once I learned at what was I, 15, 16, that

Speaker 1 the worst dig to say is no,

Speaker 1 I was off to the races. I was pussy before I learned that.

Speaker 1 Before I learned that, timid little boy, scared, fragile,

Speaker 1 just looking from far. Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, oh,

Speaker 1 oh.

Speaker 1 Just staring at her. Yeah.
I love her. Once I got to just, once Dill say, man, why are you sitting there looking like a bitch? All she's going to do is say no.

Speaker 1 Huh?

Speaker 1 So then I would shoot high.

Speaker 1 And to my surprise, I said yes.

Speaker 1 A lot of flowetry.

Speaker 1 I didn't know. I was expecting to know.
It was awful. No, no the note just never came though

Speaker 1 Home runs is high ish

Speaker 1 But y'all not gonna understand what I'm saying y'all was lost when I said I won't tell chicks happy birthday

Speaker 1 because it could lead to something. Y'all go what you mean? Listen, buddy

Speaker 1 When you're in God's favor,

Speaker 1 watch your man talk. That's him.
I told y'all, I see in the world. I can't go.
I can't just get dressed and run to Bernice party. I can't.
I'm telling you something.

Speaker 1 Or, look, they mad. All right, come on.
Let me not make it about me. They get mad.
They get mad.

Speaker 1 They get mad.

Speaker 1 That's why I need a new friend who like the Pizarro Seinfeld.

Speaker 1 Nobody's mad. Nigga is tight.
Shoulders is flumping.

Speaker 1 He is balling or fist up in their hoodies.

Speaker 1 All right, yo. Anyway, man.
Because you know when champ, number the other champ walk in the room, you know how it is, man. You know, it's aura against aura, man.
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 We be in different rooms. Nah, it's aura against aura.
You know that. Nigga, one leg ain't had the aura.

Speaker 1 You got the clothes. One leg aura, nigga.

Speaker 1 Feel the heat. But you got the niggas standing there eating orange peels in the cloth, nigga.
Don't get no crazy than that. Oh, with the midi in front of them.

Speaker 1 Superman.

Speaker 1 Watch your mouth, nigga.

Speaker 1 Don't play my mother. With the DeRosan in front of them.

Speaker 1 Watch your fucking mouth when he like that, son.

Speaker 1 I must have had mid in years. I don't know what you're talking about.
I was by myself.

Speaker 1 What? No, MIDI in front of me. I was by myself.

Speaker 1 I never said that he was with somebody. You said with the middie, though.
I said it was MIDI in front of you. Oh, that means when you look down, you was two seats down from me.
I know.

Speaker 1 I was next to Rachel.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yo, it's all right, man. Look, look, he's about to get mad at me.
Mad, how? I'm chilling. He's mad at me because you kept showing teeth in front of the mid-pack.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Well, you wouldn't just eat, nigga.

Speaker 1 He's trying his best today. Come on.
What else we got? What else we got? I'm personable. What else we got? Wait, what? I'm personable.

Speaker 1 I agree with that.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So if somebody starts a conversation, I'll engage. And I'll be genuine.
I don't just be. Fuck out of here.
Why are you talking to me?

Speaker 1 That's way better than me.

Speaker 1 You getting full dialogue, right? I ain't with that genuine shit. How's your life? How's God?

Speaker 1 What you do, how's God?

Speaker 1 He like that, too, though. What's on your mouth? Joe like that.

Speaker 1 Not with strangers. Joe ain't like that.
No, he gets to talking to him. That nigga ain't like that.
Joe want to get in your head to somebody that he want to get in their head.

Speaker 1 I know that's what I'm saying. But the stranger.
No, no, he don't talk to no stranger at all.

Speaker 1 That nigga different. Rude.
Rude to a stranger. Stepped out last night for a second.
D.B. Ozzy had a little R ⁇ B joint on it.
I'm going to pull up with that, too.

Speaker 1 That shit looked like it was all right, too. Ran over there.
You You know, it's going to be allied DB Office. Do a good, do a good job.

Speaker 1 Shout out to DZ Law. Salute.

Speaker 1 I went over there, sat in my reserve seat.

Speaker 1 Fucking hood ass nigga was standing right there. Nigga wouldn't move either.
So as soon as I sit down, he started getting all extra close to me. Fucking

Speaker 1 I'm like, yo, dog, ain't you crazy, nigga? So I'm thinking we're about to get it on in there, man. He slipped you his number.
He turned around.

Speaker 1 I heard about you.

Speaker 1 I'm telling the story.

Speaker 1 Who is hating?

Speaker 1 Yo, yo, yo, God is.

Speaker 1 So he turned around and said, yo, you don't remember me, do you? Oh, I was about to slide you. You was sitting there? You was sitting there? Oh.

Speaker 1 You standing up. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I was standing over you. I said, nah, nah.

Speaker 1 I said, yeah, nigga, we used to be at speed together buying bottles.

Speaker 1 I was day off such and such. When what's the name ran out when y'all scrapped? Man, we was running around.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 It's good to see you, man. That nigga was so glad he was about to get slit.
That nigga hug.

Speaker 1 And the nigga didn't know that nigga from nothing.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, I did. You ain't know that nigga.

Speaker 1 You remember? Like, thank God. I didn't remember him.
But that's the thing. Like, you forget how old you are, right? I know D.B.
Ossie for

Speaker 1 since I was maybe 15. Some nigga mentioned speed.
So if a nigga talking about speed, you talking about when I'm 17,

Speaker 1 DB Ice knows niggas that's,

Speaker 1 we grew up, we was kids. So yeah, I looked at this nigga in his face and I recognized, not only did I recognize him, I was happy he was alive with me.
Like that's where I took it up.

Speaker 1 And then the more I looked around, I started seeing if you if you and if you come you just start seeing jersey nigga. You don't even bring my jersey more than that.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yo, it's good to see see niggas alive.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. And looking alive.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I came in there. When I see Albion, fucking whatever strip club that was, he had all American niggas with him.
It's like,

Speaker 1 oh, yo,

Speaker 1 good to see some of you niggas, man. So, yeah.
I told old boy I loved him. He brought me some juice.

Speaker 1 And I got the fuck out.

Speaker 1 Is it enough? It's enough.

Speaker 1 And I got the fuck out of there, but it was good to see everybody.

Speaker 1 I have no idea why I just brought it up. What else are we talking about?

Speaker 1 Oh, Swiss and Jadakiss and Push It T. I saw something floating around.
It's from the Godfather of Harlem season four soundtrack because they dropped the whole soundtrack.

Speaker 1 Godfather Harlem take fucking five years between shoes, boys.

Speaker 1 Hey, I wish that's what I'm saying. Okay, Frank Lucas is here now, right? Yeah.
Got it. Watch that first episode.
Oh, it's out already. Yeah, it's out.

Speaker 1 Oh, I might have to let the beat build on that one.

Speaker 1 All right. Might have to let that one save up a little bit.
You saw all the seasons?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Wait, does it come out like the full season?

Speaker 1 No, it's episodically. Oh, okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I got to let that build too. I can't just

Speaker 2 do the one episode.

Speaker 1 No, because they're doing that one. Yeah.
Sorry. I got too many shows that make it easier for me when I could just watch this and then have them on certain days.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, the record is Danger, Danger.
I hate it.

Speaker 1 Parts of it loaded up. I do.

Speaker 1 I am going to go ahead. Danger.
and get a little bit of Swiss. I'm gonna go ahead and just...
Swiss did a lot on the side.

Speaker 1 We can say it.

Speaker 1 Still going it, 122.

Speaker 1 Oh, there we go.

Speaker 1 You need world peace, but I'll show you where to walk a shoot.

Speaker 1 Line them up and kill them all, executioner style. Good defense, that's what I call using your fabs.
Send some letters to the families just to boost them a wrath.

Speaker 1 It's two great rappers handing in the

Speaker 1 yo, send the invoice for the soundtrack verse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little bit of that. Yo, I'm gonna hop on the soundtrack.
I'm sending that invoice. They should pay me faster than my labels.

Speaker 1 Who pay me? I like push verses. Yeah, I love

Speaker 1 both verses, but it's just because they're both great.

Speaker 1 I don't like both verses.

Speaker 1 When they follow the leader, some things are beneath you. We don't touch the crumbs on the table, that's for the leeches.
Heard you rappers is robbing Paul to paid Peter.

Speaker 1 Couldn't imagine waiting to turn 50 to sell reefer. Feel nigga, leave the commentary for the bleachers.
I don't feel niggas when they ain't practice what they preaching.

Speaker 1 Your tires ain't screeching and your bitches ain't beaching. She's walking in the summer, getting scissored on the weekend.
Vibes cartel, skinning bleaching, far-reaching.

Speaker 2 Can't wait to cut these braids off, show you on Puerto Rican. Murder on my mind, confidentially speaking.
For all you

Speaker 1 That verse is dope. Yeah, that was dope.
That was dope. That was dope.
But there's a lot of record around that that could have been. Yeah, I don't fuck with this beat.
The beat ain't the greatest.

Speaker 1 I don't, nah.

Speaker 1 Sorry. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Switch just did too much, man. I mean, look,

Speaker 1 but now if it come on as the show is on, as just some background shit, then I'm not mad. It does.
That's it. Then I'm not mad.
This plays in the first episode. There's a scene and it's planned.

Speaker 1 But if you throw this this on in the turtle top, expect nine angry niggas.

Speaker 2 No, that sounds like some TV shit. That sounds like theatrical music, not meant for just riding around listening to it.

Speaker 1 Okay. I guess I'll give it that to you.

Speaker 1 Swiss hooks have never been my favorite, but this is an egregiously long. I need to hear Swiss in the motherfucking Trapped in the Spotlight sequel.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 huh?

Speaker 1 Stop playing with Big Male.

Speaker 1 Trapped in the Spotlight sequel. I'd like to hear hear that too.
Look, you just want a sequel check. I do want a fucking sequel check.
I do fucking like a second.

Speaker 1 It's old.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you what movie is not getting a sequel.

Speaker 1 I'm crossing my fingers for Hunting Housewives getting a sequel.

Speaker 1 Now that one might get worse. That one, but we need that one.
Now that one might get worse. They need the Charknado, that one.

Speaker 1 Charnado got three, right? Three. Four Sharknadadado.
Charnado got like seven.

Speaker 1 Nah, we need, yeah. I'm with Mel on that one.

Speaker 1 Sexy red and Tommy Richmond did some shit. Oh, boy.

Speaker 2 All right, let's play it so we can kick his back in.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna do that even if you don't play it.

Speaker 1 Even if you don't play it, I'm kicking his back in. I am curious.
That's the only reason I even broke. Broke this up.
I saw some awkward-looking BTS video scenes, and I was like, you know, I'm cool.

Speaker 1 No, let's stay right here. I ain't hit play, so this is gonna be my first time.
Live reaction. Yeah, same.
I didn't know. All right, well, but before you hit play, look, Parklow pussy, come on.

Speaker 1 I've seen the BTS shit you've seen too. Just say it.
Say what everybody was thinking. Come on.
You say it first.

Speaker 1 Come on, Parks. Say it.
We've seen the video. I didn't see it.
Say it. They just look awkward.
That's all I got. What looked awkward? Him.
All right, there we go. Parks is such a fucking pussy.

Speaker 1 Say it. Tommy Richmond looked like a mechanic in the face.

Speaker 1 He looked like a old wash.

Speaker 1 Tommy Richmond looked like one of them.

Speaker 1 Remember that big Harley-Davidson biker fight that they had where 400 of them started wilding and they all got acquitted he looked like one of their nephews that got away

Speaker 1 like why we never knew just how stupid tommy richman looked in the face until we got the the 4k they did a close-up on him

Speaker 1 he looks a fucking mess i don't even know what he looks like let me see

Speaker 1 like a biker no he looks bad

Speaker 1 like he's cosplaying your bag like a vampire

Speaker 1 your bag of twilight right?

Speaker 1 Your bag. I would beg him.
Put some respect on him.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to let you play with Mel Ford.

Speaker 1 They got the ponytail. You're not going to let you play with Mel Ford.

Speaker 2 I like a man button.

Speaker 1 He don't even belong there.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that looked like a spoof. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That looked like a spoof. And this don't look like him.
He looked a little wiry.

Speaker 1 That nigga looked like. He liked they told him to do this and do this, and he's uncomfortable as hell.
Did he look like he was scared

Speaker 1 to be around like sexy red?

Speaker 1 That nigga look different.

Speaker 1 He did look like that. Why? It's two fucking caricatures.
It looks like his uncle owns the label and the mastering service and the distributor. Yo, it's my sister's boy.
Just give him what he wants.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Just give my sister's boy whatever he wants, man. All right, let's play it.
Yeah, he looked like he would change his last name to Grande.

Speaker 1 No, for real.

Speaker 1 You know how they do? He looked like he would change his last name to Electra. Wait, what was Carmen Electra? Tommy Electra.
It was like a Tar movie. Yeah.
Carmen Electra was what?

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 1 nationality? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think she was half Hispanic, half white.

Speaker 1 I don't remember. I remember.
The Jojo dancer video. That's all I got.

Speaker 1 These whites have changed that last name up, boy.

Speaker 1 Into some other shit.

Speaker 1 Electra.

Speaker 1 Who believes Carmen's? All right, forget it.

Speaker 2 I could be wrong. Don't quote me.

Speaker 1 Richmond.

Speaker 1 Yo, somebody look up Tommy Richmond's real name right now. I want to know if he's like, what if that's all that don't?

Speaker 1 That might be his real name. Well, oh, then I'll stand down.
If that's his real name, I'll stand down. That sounds like some.

Speaker 1 That sounds like a name made up in the lab. Tommy Richmond's real name is Curtis Waters.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.
Curtis Waters might be a cooler name than Tommy Richmond. Curtis Waters sounds black.
That's what I was about to say.

Speaker 2 He might have wanted to keep that.

Speaker 1 Well, no, because he did say he's not hip-hop. So hopefully.
Oh, okay, right, right.

Speaker 1 And Carmen Electra is German, Irish, and Cherokee. Am I supposed to be a present player of this? I don't want to.
Wait, hold up. Wait, Carmen Electra is what? Cherokee.
Cherokee, German, and Irish.

Speaker 1 Irish. See?

Speaker 1 And that's exactly what I'm saying. Sprinkle a little.
That's exactly my point about these whites, man. Sprinkle a little bit.
She was a champion. She was nice, though.

Speaker 1 Chera Harkey. Yeah.
A couple Tommy Eric Richards. Yeah, no, she was nice.

Speaker 1 Wait, because this can't be right. There's a couple of Tommy Richmonds come up.
This cannot be the same. Curtis.
I don't think. Yeah, I don't think he's there.
You know who I'm rolling out.

Speaker 1 Every time Ice gold and fact check, check, it'd be wrong. That's not true.
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 Curtis Waters. That's Richmond.
No, it is Richmond. Okay.
All right. There's another Tommy Richmond.
All right. All right, so Tommy Richmond is Tommy Richmond.

Speaker 2 Yes. It's his government.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Tommy Richmond. All right.
His real name is Tommy. What's his origin story?

Speaker 1 I was about to say it. That's his name, dog.

Speaker 1 His real name is not publicly known.

Speaker 1 They're just going to do that. That's what happens.
He's an American singer and rapper known for a 2024 single Million Dollar baby. His stage name is Tommy Richmond.

Speaker 1 So that's what happens when your uncle owns Google? He from Woodbridge, Virginia. His name is Young People's.
Oh.

Speaker 1 He from over there. Oh.

Speaker 1 Where the people do the.

Speaker 2 What does that mean?

Speaker 1 Is that... What does that mean? Is it.
DNA be the same.

Speaker 2 I was going to say incest. Just say that.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be respectful.

Speaker 1 That's what he looked like. Like, he's inbred?

Speaker 1 Why are you whispering? What are you saying?

Speaker 2 Okay. Like, he's inbred?

Speaker 1 Is that what you're

Speaker 1 saying?

Speaker 1 That's what I mean. Inbred means

Speaker 1 that there's overlap. Brother, sister, cousin soup.
What's that cousin soup situation you guys talked about? There we go. All right, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to go that far. That's what I'm saying.
I don't think that, but that was a lot, Melissa.

Speaker 1 You said it. He didn't say that what inbred means.
I didn't say that. I didn't say nothing about bread.

Speaker 1 Can we play that? Parks, can we play that? Yes, that's what he. Do we have to? Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Yo, great record.

Speaker 1 Exactly what I heard, yo. Soldier boy.
You can play that shit, boy.

Speaker 1 I feel like we're part of it.

Speaker 1 Yo, turn this off. Nope.
Nope. Nope.
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 1 He got another hit on his hands. Watch.
Hold on a second. What was it?

Speaker 1 Can we? Watch. Course.

Speaker 1 That was the point. I don't want to die when it's sucking record straight.
It's got to stay alive for the fucking song.

Speaker 1 I can't. I can't.
I can't. Listen to that one.

Speaker 1 Unintentionally keep it right. Is that

Speaker 1 version? Did you get a little sexy word? No.

Speaker 1 That was what I was trying to do. Why?

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 I can't. Yo, when y'all go home, check it out.
You got a car, right? Is it unintentionally mixed?

Speaker 1 When you go get in your car, go ahead and give it a swirl. Yeah, y'all put that out like that? Like a swirl.
What did you think?

Speaker 1 Shit made my fucking guts hurt.

Speaker 1 That's a new bag, nigga. Raw.

Speaker 1 I got a poop.

Speaker 1 Did you say I got a poop? Tommy Richmond looked like he belonged in like a biker version of Family Guy.

Speaker 1 Like that's what his face looked like. It looks cartoonish.

Speaker 1 And maybe white people just look funny with a five o'clock shadow.

Speaker 1 He looks,

Speaker 1 he looked like a he looked like a gangster Jetson

Speaker 1 For real in that video.

Speaker 1 Nah, he looks crazy in that video.

Speaker 1 That looks crazy. Look funny, period.

Speaker 1 That's y'all man, too. I hate to talk like that about y'all man.
Who man? I know y'all fuck with him. Think he's a plant? Y'all fuck with him, man.

Speaker 1 You think he came in here champion in a million-dollar baby record? Who? Wasn't. I never did that.

Speaker 1 Listen. Lie.
I don't care. Exactly.
Lie. That's what I said.

Speaker 1 That's what I said. Tommy fucking rich man.
Anyway,

Speaker 2 Clip asked if he was a plant, if you think he's a plant.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 A dead one, too.

Speaker 1 A one that hasn't been watered.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Overwatered.

Speaker 1 Some of y'all out there listening is listening to this white with your Christmas tree up still.

Speaker 1 Yo. Yo,

Speaker 1 I just want y'all to know it's about to be May. I know a couple people.
Me too. I ain't going to shout them out, though.
I'm not.

Speaker 1 Just know it's about to be May and your Christmas tree is still up and you look nuts. You look nuts on FaceTime.

Speaker 1 Baby.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's like I shit down late. Not this damn late, though.
It's like when they do the funeral at the club with the dude. Prop him up.

Speaker 1 You know what's funny?

Speaker 1 Me and somebody went to that club like a day after and could smell the formaldehyde. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 The club was hype. It's like, look, that's where he was right there.
It's like, dog, I don't give a fuck about that nigga.

Speaker 1 Yo, humans are crazy, bro. Yes.
Yes. You pin a nigga up on a speaker.
That's crazy. That nigga arms just fall off.
Rattle.

Speaker 1 He dances, y'all.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. What do you mean, nigga? Something happened to me.
Y'all better put me on that plant in the back and pod.

Speaker 1 Pop me up.

Speaker 1 Don't let the Patreon stuff just

Speaker 1 flatline out. I'll go over there and kick the shit out of your ass.
Y'all remember what you said?

Speaker 1 That's what you want to do, right? Like if something happened to me.

Speaker 1 I can kick my corks, huh?

Speaker 1 Damn. That's my man, man.

Speaker 1 God damn.

Speaker 1 Yo, so on BET Plus,

Speaker 1 on BET Plus, I read. What Tyler Perry did?

Speaker 1 What Bell did? You'll never get a Tyler Perry report from me. It's BET Plus.
I ain't know they did other content.

Speaker 1 All that shit Tyler Perry did. They gave that nigga all the the money.
That nigga

Speaker 1 felt so bad.

Speaker 1 Yep. Put me a check.
I'm about to say, huh? Wait, wait, hold on. Not just Mel? What? You want to be on BET Plus Ice? Dog, I'll be in the fake scandal.
Nigga, that is the title of this episode.

Speaker 1 I just want to be on BET Plus.

Speaker 1 Wait, what the hell you want to do on BET Plus Freeze? Get a check on BET Plus. So what are you going to do? You got to bring something.
Yeah, I'm going to go over there and act.

Speaker 1 What y'all want me to do? He's going to be the bus driver.

Speaker 2 What character do you want to play?

Speaker 1 The one that gets me the check.

Speaker 1 They all will. But

Speaker 2 what would you like to play?

Speaker 1 I think he should be the bus driver in the hypothetical situation that

Speaker 1 is trying to get the baddie, but she won't because he's a bus driver. Yes.

Speaker 2 Oh, and she's like, she wants an NBA player, but he's the bus driver.

Speaker 1 He's got everything.

Speaker 1 Am I

Speaker 1 feeling?

Speaker 1 That Willow Walker?

Speaker 1 I'm welcome my guns and I have my rights. And I fuck dudes on Friday nights.
I ain't gay, I just love my bros. And two back shots and camera clothes.

Speaker 1 Who the fuck? That AI shit. Tell that shit off, yo.
No, no, no, no, it might not be AI. I didn't know we got the sleepers already.

Speaker 1 Who is that? Please send that to me.

Speaker 1 It might be Willow Walker, yo. That's AI.
Yo, that's that's all I heard what I said. He wanted to be on.

Speaker 1 Okay, wait. Why the fuck? Hold on, hold on, hold on.
We talking about acting on the show. You put some bullshit out.

Speaker 1 Why are you bopping your foot today?

Speaker 1 She likes gay sex, nigga. Yo, that's her shit.
That's her bad. She watched gay sex.
It's catchy.

Speaker 1 Fucking freaky.

Speaker 1 Turn that shit on, bro.

Speaker 1 Disrespecting that country man. I fuck dudes

Speaker 1 Sound better than Tommy Richman. Yeah, give me a shot.

Speaker 1 No, that's Curtis Waters. Curtis Waters.

Speaker 1 Oh, Curtis Waters.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Please send that to me.

Speaker 1 Mel, no.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Get out of here.

Speaker 1 If you put that in your iTunes

Speaker 1 with the crazy. That's got a real record, y'all.
It might, yo, there's a country artist that...

Speaker 1 That's why I asked you, was it Willa Walker? Willa?

Speaker 1 Wheeler.

Speaker 2 Wheeler Walker.

Speaker 1 Wheeler Walker Jr. What does he look like? And you got that nigga in your country roller deck.

Speaker 1 Wait, what are y'all talking about right now? Ice Sandy.

Speaker 1 That's a country nigga.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Ice Sanders. You think I hit the Shazam? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't hit the Shazam on that one.

Speaker 1 Jerks.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 Y'all looking it up for real. I think you cop.

Speaker 1 I know he got it. I think you copped.
He's trying to put down. Okay, I never thought it was like a real thing.
Are you saying it's a specific country artist that that's his bad?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he wow out like that in his music.

Speaker 2 It's not him.

Speaker 1 It doesn't look like at least the pictures are the same. I don't see who that is, but I just...
We don't need to find this guy.

Speaker 1 You don't want to do a lyrical breakdown? Not at all.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Anyway, where were we?

Speaker 1 We were shitting on Tommy Richards. Oh, no, we're done with him.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 No, we were talking about B.E.T. Plus.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's right. Oh, B.E.T.
Plus is doing the Varnell Hill Show. If you're unfamiliar, the Varnell Hill Show was Tommy Davidson's character, on Martin.
Did you miss me?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was like Darsinio Hall. He was, oh, that was hilarious.

Speaker 1 But BET Plus is doing the Varnell Hill show. And I just thought that was a great idea.
That's dope. Yeah.
That's dope. I thought it was a great idea.
I thought it was super dope.

Speaker 1 So dope that I wanted to come in here and ask you guys

Speaker 1 to create a spin-off.

Speaker 2 Immediately. Omar.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace.

Speaker 1 I thought I read that they might be thinking about that. They can't.
It's not going to be the same.

Speaker 1 Fuck that. That would would have been crazy.
Rest in peace, Michael Knight. If they would have had Omar from

Speaker 1 like built the character development up, how they're doing with Kanan, from what made him start doing that type of shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that would have been fire.

Speaker 1 That would have been crazy. That would have been crazy.

Speaker 2 I don't know who watched White Lotus in here the last season.

Speaker 1 Victoria Radliff.

Speaker 1 Who's Victoria Radliff?

Speaker 2 Lorazapam, the wife.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 I want to know what happens when she finds out that her husband has lost all the fucking family money.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 And what happens to the family, what happens to him. That season was ass.
But that's this, that's, she was the star, basically, I guess, of the whole season. That would be what I'd want to see.
So

Speaker 1 that shit was ass.

Speaker 1 I think all the people out there know that it's well documented. I think there should be a gone girl sequel.

Speaker 1 Part two to gone girl. But in the spirit of ice, I'll take it a step further.
please

Speaker 1 then the gone girl they back in the house she's pregnant she has the baby

Speaker 1 and my spin-off

Speaker 1 my spin-off uh centers around the child in my spin-off

Speaker 1 those two go to therapy ben affleck and the gone girl they get better with their problem and they raise a psychopath psychopath girl who gets missing

Speaker 1 at

Speaker 1 when she's a preteen or a teenager.

Speaker 2 16 years.

Speaker 1 And now we're putting the parents on trial for the murder of this missing child who's not really dead.

Speaker 1 Fire.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 I like that. That's what I got.
That's a good one. That's what I got and spin off in detail.

Speaker 2 If I'm not mistaken, yeah, yeah, he thought this out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did. He's been throwing a book.
Well, I've been thinking about Gone Girl since Gone Girl was out.

Speaker 1 Amazing movie. Yeah, this is one of the things.

Speaker 2 What did you like so much about it? Everything.

Speaker 1 Everything. It's an amazing movie.
No, I know.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, I'm just asking, what did you like so much?

Speaker 1 It's a true love story.

Speaker 1 It is. That is the purest of love.
It's really dark. It is.

Speaker 1 Okay, what did you like so much about it?

Speaker 1 It was a true love story, like I said. I love the wife's plan.

Speaker 1 I like how she went about it.

Speaker 1 I like the plot twists in it.

Speaker 1 I just think it was special. I think Gone Girl was really, really, really unique.
It was very

Speaker 1 good story. But I don't get the love part that y'all talking about.
Well, we're being dicks. Oh, I wasn't.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 you got to love someone a lot to go through all that. Yeah, that level of commitment, she realized he just needed the nudge to show how much he loved her.

Speaker 1 You guys are fucking insane.

Speaker 2 She was a total sociopath.

Speaker 1 She didn't have the capability of loving. She didn't think she was.
Sociopaths love too? No. She loved that nigga.

Speaker 2 No, no, she doesn't have the capability.

Speaker 1 You don't think sociopaths love.

Speaker 1 No. I don't think they can.
I guess by definition they have to be able to do that. I don't think they have the

Speaker 2 capability of loving somebody.

Speaker 2 I think that they believe that they do, but they don't have the capability of actually feeling love for anybody else.

Speaker 1 I think that's just one of the things that the country gets wrong.

Speaker 1 I mean, well, if anybody's a sociopath out there, let us fucking know.

Speaker 1 And if that is true, what you're saying, then I don't say she was a sociopath then, because I still think she loved him, she loved their family, and she did all of that for them.

Speaker 1 I don't think that she was a sociopath, no. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 If she's saying a sociopath, she felt love, then she wasn't a sociopath. She planned her own

Speaker 2 murder

Speaker 1 in order and and he was with him as the number one suspect yes and and did everything to basically pin the murder on him with all the purpose you think she loved him yes yes

Speaker 1 so if he would have spent the rest of his life in jail she did that based on love i also think that love looks different for everybody

Speaker 1 to be

Speaker 1 in context no that's not funny in context of gold girls very funny yes that is true i think that love looks cool different for everybody you're just in that cage okay that's true with big bubba in them because i love you dog

Speaker 1 what you're gonna get life for premeditated murder because i love you she what she didn't let it get that far yeah it was never gonna get that far

Speaker 1 i'm alive but that wasn't her that that uh

Speaker 1 that um uncovered that uncovered it yeah yeah that wasn't her doing it wasn't yo damn he had round in third base he about to get locked up let me go show myself that wasn't her then what happened how did she get found out

Speaker 1 When he did the press conference and was she came home. Yeah, she came home.
That was her. It was him.
She came home. She had all of this shit planned out to reveal herself.

Speaker 1 At the end, when the news cameras was around, she popped her ass up. That was her mother.
That's why she came home for a specific relight because he went up there and basically

Speaker 1 her plan. He made her believe her plan worked.

Speaker 1 It got him. Okay, cool.
Because I knew it was something that spawned. So if he made her believe her plan worked, let's just say he didn't do that.
Okay, it's just gone fuck back.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just asking you.

Speaker 1 Fuck that, man. I mean, this is a good sequence.
Don't love me that much. What is your spin-off, buddy?

Speaker 1 Did he do that? Some silly shit. No, no, no.
I was thinking some silly shit like

Speaker 1 Harlem Knights, like a Harlem Knights spin-off.

Speaker 1 Boomerang. Oh, yeah.
A good one would be Boomerang.

Speaker 2 Whatever happened with

Speaker 2 Halle Barry and Eddie Murphy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm casting Mel in my boomerang.

Speaker 2 Thank you. I would gladly be in that.

Speaker 1 Why do you keep running from the Tracy Ellis Royal story? Maca.

Speaker 1 I'm not.

Speaker 1 Well, we're in hour five.

Speaker 2 We are not in hour fucking five.

Speaker 1 We're in hour five. I brought it up to you earlier.
You ain't said a peep about it. I was a.
You didn't even answer my question earlier, which was, hey, if you care about this, we can hit it.

Speaker 1 But if not, then we don't have to. Okay.
And if you don't care about it, we don't have to.

Speaker 2 No, I wanted to get, you know, I wanted to get a little bit more well-versed on it because I didn't get a chance to see it.

Speaker 2 I saw some clips but that i wanted to read some of the articles that were talking about it and all the points that she hit not just the clickbaity obvious ones

Speaker 1 um do you have a clip that you want to play uh i can find one unless you have one ready to go no i don't have one ready to go okay yeah well some of the things that she talked about was

Speaker 1 her being her age and being single with no children and younger men, right? She said, I'm not mad at that part. She said, men her age, what?

Speaker 2 She said that men in her age tend to have a more,

Speaker 2 exhibit toxic masculinity and have a more rigid way of thinking about

Speaker 1 their roles. Sure.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 2 Myself that question. I was like, what is this about?

Speaker 2 Because I want a partner. And so often, and it's not just that I'm older.
I'm also very embodied.

Speaker 2 I am a full, very whole person who knows myself, who is in charge of my life, and who lives a very full,

Speaker 2 just robust life.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 it's not just age, it's like life experience and sort of a difference. But I have to ask myself the question, why? Why does this keep sort of coming up other than they're hot and gorgeous?

Speaker 2 There's that. There's that.
But a lot of men my age are steeped in a toxic masculinity and have been raised in a culture where there is a particular way that a relationship looks.

Speaker 2 And anything that starts to smell of that for me,

Speaker 2 I did enough of it where I was controlled and felt like I was a possession or whatever those things were or prize or

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 2 I just have no interest in it and I will not do it again.

Speaker 1 Distinguished panel.

Speaker 1 We should start with Mel before we speak. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 We always start with Mel on topics like this.

Speaker 2 No, I'd like to hear from the room before I speak.

Speaker 1 You such a pussy.

Speaker 2 I'm not a pussy.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to hear. I'll have to say.
She wants a nigga she can mold. She wants a nigga that she can control.
That's how I feel when you go younger.

Speaker 1 I mean, a lot of niggas, a lot of men her age or in her field, may already be established and may have certain standards and rules that she don't feel like dealing with.

Speaker 1 So she contributed to toxic masculinity. I don't agree.
I feel like with younger niggas, especially if who you are based on you able to mold them, control them, do things, and just get shit off.

Speaker 1 And I feel like that's what she wants to do, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 Double-standard because now if it was a man saying that about a young woman, we'd be looked at, you know, take them to jail, to the gallows.

Speaker 1 Hang him. That's what, you know, so

Speaker 1 Mel.

Speaker 2 No, there's more.

Speaker 1 Okay. Antoine.

Speaker 1 I agree with her.

Speaker 1 You agree with her

Speaker 1 sentiment.

Speaker 1 I think that

Speaker 1 in today's day and age, especially a woman that's established, they don't necessarily have to conform to the old shit because they don't need a man's money. You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 A lot of times people will conform for a certain security. Like women seek security in a relationship wherever that security comes from.

Speaker 1 It don't necessarily got to be financial, it could be physical, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 1 Her at that, she's 52. So it's not a big, big age, but, and she's established.
She's been rich for a long time. Her mom was who her mom was.

Speaker 1 I think her just living outside of the societal norm is dope.

Speaker 1 So I think her her being open to dating somebody of any

Speaker 1 is dope. That's true.

Speaker 1 Has she dated non-rich niggas that we know of? We wouldn't know. See, money ain't even come into that.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, because you're saying

Speaker 1 a lot of the, they don't need her for her money, so it's a certain concept. I said she don't need a man for money.

Speaker 1 I ain't say the dudes don't need her for money. I don't know who she's dated.
I'm saying that a lot of times when women have their own money, they could play by their own set of rules.

Speaker 1 They don't necessarily have to play.

Speaker 1 And you believe this?

Speaker 1 You're a guy that's against double standards. You always play the opportunity.
I think this is against the double standard.

Speaker 1 This older woman saying that

Speaker 1 she don't want to date men her age because of toxic masculinity. I don't agree with that piece.

Speaker 1 That's what he played. No, but I was just talking about her being open to dating younger men or not necessarily dating in the confines of what tradition stands.

Speaker 1 When somebody says

Speaker 1 in the confines of what tradition states, I'm not, I think that's the fault, bro.

Speaker 1 When somebody establishes that they're comfortable in who they are, they're already established, when they give those pre-notions,

Speaker 1 there's only one other direction for me that you're going, or one other reason that you're doing it.

Speaker 1 I'm with him. What's that?

Speaker 1 Just say you were sliding. Shut up.

Speaker 1 It could be that. That's it.
Yo, it could be something. I just want to

Speaker 1 have have fun. I want to be fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I want to fuck with no one. I want to fuck a young nigga with me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I want to fuck whoever I want to fuck. And most of these men nowadays, they in some societal box.
And I live outside the box. So if you in that box, it reeks.
I got to run away. Girl.

Speaker 1 It could be that. Just fucking say the five letters.

Speaker 1 We can't say that. I'm not disagreeing with that.
I don't want to say that. And if that is the case, I just don't like you trying to attach it to toxic masculinity.

Speaker 1 That's the easiest way to be accepted. That's the way to be accepted by people because that's what's going on right now in society.

Speaker 1 Once you throw that out there, it's like, oh,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's clickbait. I think sometimes they throw that out there to throw you off from toxic femininity.
There you go.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not saying, of course, toxic masculinity exists, but sometimes they use that shit as a smoke bomb. Okay.

Speaker 1 Boom. Let's focus on that.
Smoke it now, bitch.

Speaker 1 Let's focus on your ass. Because that's toxic.

Speaker 1 And some people just don't want to deal with the bullshit in reality. Some people just want to go through life smoothly.
They don't want to hear. Yeah, she kind of says,

Speaker 1 yeah, she want to make her own rules. You know what a nigga.
If I meet a cute nigga in the elevator and that nigga hot and sexy and I want to fuck him, I can fuck him. I don't based off of that.

Speaker 1 I had to do what society says I have to do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm for that. She also sounds like Uber.

Speaker 1 She also sounds like she has Uber success syndrome.

Speaker 1 I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means, but that that sounds fine.
It's when you bump into that, we talked about it before up here.

Speaker 1 When you bump into the 50-year-old that has been successful for 50 years,

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 no, my dating experience is not going to be

Speaker 1 traditional. Yeah, at all.

Speaker 1 At all. So if I don't find something that's in line with

Speaker 1 all of my weird, been famous since

Speaker 1 I was in my mom's stomach. Like my mom is Diana Ross.

Speaker 1 Who are you talking to? Who are you looking at like that? Nigga, no, we're not going over there. We're not doing it your way.
Everything is my way. If you can't get with my way,

Speaker 1 it ain't going your way. And if you don't get with my way, that's what it sounds like.
I don't know Tracy Ellis Ross. I absolutely love her.
And

Speaker 1 I'm a huge fan of her. She's amazing.
We don't want to take that from her.

Speaker 1 But this goes back to the conversation that we had in the pod about the CEO chick of the Fortune 500 company. Similar to that.
Somebody who's in that position and just

Speaker 1 they're not able to, maybe men, when you're that established, maybe men in her field or her age may be intimidated by that. There's a lot of shit that comes with that.

Speaker 1 She may feel that, like how you said, yo, I'm Diana Ross' daughter, nigga. I don't give a fuck.
I know who I am. And some niggas don't want to deal with that.
Girl, we are ready. So.

Speaker 1 Okay, was that enough man splanning for you? Yeah, yeah, it definitely was. All right, you're a go.
Have a toss at it.

Speaker 2 Okay, well, it's interesting what you guys heard and and what you chose not to hear.

Speaker 2 Because when she started talking about those relationships with the men that are in her age group, she said that she explained her lived experience, that she had actually had those experiences and determined they were not for her because she used

Speaker 2 the words controlling and possession when she was talking about that. So you can't really discount this woman's lived experience.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait, wait. What? Sure, we can.

Speaker 2 Okay, fine. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 But I'm not going to. We're saying

Speaker 1 that's a crock of shit.

Speaker 2 You can think that. You can think that, but that's very dismissive.

Speaker 1 But it's cool. It's cool.

Speaker 1 How many men are there on Earth? And we're not about the gender war this, so I'm just going to make a quick point.

Speaker 1 How many men are there on Earth? And if there's 7 billion people on Earth, I believe Tracy Ellis Ross to be able to bag 85% of them. That is.
So if you only want to focus on

Speaker 1 your lived experience,

Speaker 2 go based off of?

Speaker 1 Versus getting new experiences.

Speaker 2 Well, that's what she's saying.

Speaker 2 She's accumulating new experiences, dating younger men who seem to have a less traditional way of thinking, and they're a little bit more fluid in their way of thinking and acting.

Speaker 2 That's what she also goes on to say after that thing.

Speaker 1 So you're sliding.

Speaker 1 Whatever you want to describe it as. She's sliding them.
She's sliding them.

Speaker 2 Whatever you want to describe.

Speaker 1 Listen.

Speaker 1 That could sound, that just sounds like justifying toxic femininity.

Speaker 1 Why is it?

Speaker 2 What does toxic femininity have to do with this particular situation? She's not really, she's not saying, she's not sitting up there talking about feminism and being a feminist.

Speaker 2 Her lived experience is, you're right, she's Diana Ross's daughter. She's been famous since she was in the fucking womb.
She has a very, she's a fucking unicorn.

Speaker 2 And I use that term because there really is not a lot of women or people that can understand what her life has looked like. Being famous from being a child and

Speaker 2 living, you know, and probably having access to wealth and then becoming famous in her own right and having an enormous amount of success from girlfriends and then blackish. Like, her lived

Speaker 2 experience is extremely unique. And so it's really difficult to apply everyday kind of standards and thoughts to

Speaker 2 what she's experienced.

Speaker 1 Man, you know, okay, hold up for a second. I agree with that.

Speaker 1 That was awesome, first of all.

Speaker 1 But it's still both of those things can be true. Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm who I am the same way these.

Speaker 1 Let me. You're right.
Wait, I want to start before I forget, because you asked me a question. I think anybody operating from,

Speaker 1 I think anything that's operating in trauma or rooted in trauma is toxic.

Speaker 1 Guy or girl.

Speaker 2 Okay, so why are you using the word trauma, though?

Speaker 1 Because you said she's based on her past life experience. Lived experience.

Speaker 1 And trauma trauma with these types of controls you all use the word trauma i just said i just said lived experience i'm not using the word trauma you didn't land he did let me land and then and then have a blast with it

Speaker 1 when i mentioned getting new experiences you countered with her lived experience

Speaker 1 so if you are afraid of new experiences or

Speaker 1 shaping your experiences to only be one way because of your trauma from your lived experience,

Speaker 1 I'm calling that trauma, which is why I highlighted Tracy Ellis Ross's ability to get any man in the world and there's 7 billion men in the world. One,

Speaker 1 two,

Speaker 1 I think that I think her,

Speaker 1 I think the mere existence of her contradicts her point.

Speaker 1 Because her point is

Speaker 1 Her point is

Speaker 1 I'm this age.

Speaker 1 The men that I'm meeting in my age bracket are leftovers.

Speaker 1 I'm running into the worst of the worst.

Speaker 1 Your words are not hers. I think that's fine.
I didn't get that. Oh, that's what I'm getting from what.
All right, so maybe I'm off. I can tell you what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 What I got from what she's saying is the dating pool beat and niggas my age, it ain't it. I heard it.
I ain't even going that far with it.

Speaker 1 The shit she's been around and she's into, men her age ain't into.

Speaker 1 And when she tried to get into it with them, it's no, no, no.

Speaker 1 And that's where that toxic masculinity part comes in because everybody say when you're speaking about fluidity and willing to try and allow other shit, the younger niggas is with that today.

Speaker 1 So she's like, I like this because I get to do more to do that. That's a crock of shit.
Men are not a monolith. I'm not saying a monolith.
But that's the part I thought, Mel ain't.

Speaker 1 Men are not a monolith. That's true.
So don't tell me that there's not a man in your age range. We plan percentages.

Speaker 1 We plan percentages. So the niggas she shot at at her age range,

Speaker 1 her percentage at getting off what she might want to get off ain't high. I'm not mad.
But when you play with the younger ones, I could get it off

Speaker 1 because of who I am, but it does let me do what the fuck I want to do. But it does come off like I'm here for a good time, not alone.

Speaker 2 Okay, so hold on one second here.

Speaker 2 Y'all are on the same wavelength with

Speaker 2 which she might be, she might be an undercover freak. Okay, let's put that to the side.
You were gonna say something.

Speaker 1 I was gonna say that

Speaker 1 she brought up the men in my age range are ex,

Speaker 1 which is a huge generalism about men her age. Yeah.
Honestly, I'm her age. Okay.
She's 52. I'm 49 years old.
So you can't judge all men that.

Speaker 2 She's not referring to the men.

Speaker 1 Please, Mel, let me finish.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Yo, you can't take all of these men that are in that age range and say that they are all suffering from toxic masculinity.

Speaker 1 Had a man been on that interview and stated those same exact things about women in his age group, you would have found that offensive,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 So, you don't find it offensive because she brought up her past traumas that Joe said about controlling men or men that were ex, all of these negative things that she lived in her past life experiences.

Speaker 1 If a man was saying that those things and he justified all older women as being ex, y'all would say, nah, he just able, he rich, he can control these young bitches because they weak of mind.

Speaker 1 See, that's the point I was trying to make. Maybe I articulated myself wrong.
What I get from her is this piss in the in the dating pool of men her age and to say that

Speaker 1 to say that like putting it in reverse like a man can't say that because there is a tracy ellis ross out there that is single successful and in search of some why do she think the same can't be uh said for her you can't meet somebody i don't

Speaker 1 sorry so

Speaker 2 You can throw a rock and hit a podcast of men talking about how used and washed up women over a certain age is.

Speaker 1 That is a

Speaker 2 self-defense. He made a point about if this, if it was a, if it was in reverse and it was a man saying this sort of thing, you know, in reverse, that we'd be totally offended.

Speaker 2 Yes, it is offensive, but I can't not hear that because it is so prevalent.

Speaker 1 Please address the point.

Speaker 2 I'm addressing something that you said.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying nothing about no other podcast. I'm talking about that.

Speaker 2 No, I'm saying

Speaker 2 you made it seem like it was just like her, what she thought is, you made it seem like if a man said what she said is not like the common shit right now.

Speaker 2 I can't like I'm trying to say how prevalent that idea is

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the men that wait hold up because I like that the men that say that like I just called them There's there's a community there's names for them incels red pill we talking about Tracy Ellis Ross.

Speaker 1 See, even that highlights the difference.

Speaker 2 Okay, so hold on one second here. Now going back to Tracy Ellis Ross, you cannot be in all places at the same time and as it relates to dating.

Speaker 1 Okay. So for example, I'm single.

Speaker 2 Do you know how much advice,

Speaker 2 like unsolicited advice people give me about dating?

Speaker 2 A ton. I'm just going to tell you a lot.
You know what you should do. You know where you should go.
You know what I was thinking. Nope, I don't.

Speaker 2 I didn't ask, but you're going to fucking tell me anyways. This is what happens to women frequently is we get unsolicited advice as to where we're supposed to be.

Speaker 2 It would literally be a full-time fucking job trying to position ourselves to be available to wherever these men are because you can't be in all places all at the same time and also fucking run your life, have a career.

Speaker 2 It gets difficult. Like it's just, it's not as simple as everybody wants to make it seem.
Like she's Tracy Ellis Ross, so she should have like pick of the litter. That's not necessarily true.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're moving the goalpost.

Speaker 2 I'm not moving the goalpost. I'm not moving the goalpost.
I'm, I'm talking, I'm referencing, I'm referencing the things that she was saying.

Speaker 2 Um, when she talks about, you know, she goes on to talk about, you know, the fact that she's child-free and never got married and that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 I think that even just kind of putting herself out there to even have that conversation was just a level, and you guys are going to fucking look.

Speaker 1 So brave.

Speaker 2 I do think that it's brave because it's she, because she leaves herself very open to a lot of criticism and judgment for people to say that was your choice you made that choice blah blah blah when it's just like you life just ebbs and flows and takes you in different directions and your priorities are what they are like they change vastly you just can only go with the tools that you have at the moment that you fucking have them to say that is against the power of manifestation by the way

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm not to say that life just comes and goes. I'm not talking.

Speaker 1 That just makes everybody sound like a helplessly. That just makes, I did.
But that just makes everybody sound like a helpless piece of shit.

Speaker 2 But not everybody manifests. Yeah, not everybody.
Not everybody isn't a manifestation.

Speaker 2 Not everybody thinks about it. That's your bag.
And you talk about it constantly. But not everybody thinks about manifestation or believes in manifestation.

Speaker 1 Do you think that everybody believes in

Speaker 1 Do you think that

Speaker 1 throughout the course of our lives, right? I think that we all think we got more time.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. Right.

Speaker 1 And I think that the choices that you make oftentimes are predicated on believing that I have time.

Speaker 1 This is one of the best Joe Button bars ever. It's three types of people in this world.
The people that's going to make shit happen, watch shit happen, or not know what happened.

Speaker 1 I think the people that you're talking about, actually, go ahead.

Speaker 1 So I think that a lot of times for I got a million female friends, right? And some of them are getting up there in age. And so when I really speak to them, when you really get to the,

Speaker 1 like once you get past all the excuses, all the, you know what I mean, the tough guy shit, a lot of these people will tell you, yo, I thought I had time in my 20s and 30s when I was dissing all of these dudes that were good dudes, they just weren't the ideal dude.

Speaker 1 They weren't the picture perfect dude because I thought I had more time to find him. And then when you get to your 40s and you're like, damn, my nigga.

Speaker 1 You know, not saying that nothing's wrong with your 40s.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying a lot of times people feel like some of the choices that they made, they are regretful in those because I could have fucked with Sean. He He was a good dude.

Speaker 1 He might not have been the best dude, but he was a good dude. He was a good man.
I could have made a life with him.

Speaker 1 And I think that when you get to this age, oftentimes the regret will smack you in the face. I know girls that got artificially inseminated, right?

Speaker 1 Because they wanted a child and they just thought they had more and more and more time. And unfortunately, y'all are on a biological clock.
That's true. And so

Speaker 1 I think some of that was in some of her interviewing her testimony.

Speaker 2 That's very true.

Speaker 2 But Tracy Alice Ross, having the access and the excess that she has, she could have adopted at any point in her life but she chose not to I think for her specifically for her and and I think everything that you just said is true I think that there is a bunch of women who felt like they had more time and didn't find the right partner sometimes like you get you drown in options that's a fact and y'all know that you know you you guys know that sometimes you can just be drowning in fucking options and it's like it's analysis paralysis you know what i mean like where you just can't make a decision because there's so much fucking shit coming at you that you just like oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to fucking just float through life and figure it out at some point. And then time, you know.

Speaker 1 And that floating, you get to the other side where the other island at. It's true.

Speaker 2 Like, look, I like to say there's like a single second and a thousand years is the same measurement of time in the grand scheme of fucking things. You know what I'm saying? So.

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 2 It's the

Speaker 2 measurement of time may seem small or large to us, but in the grand scheme of things, in terms of infinity and the universe,

Speaker 2 a second and a thousand years is the exact same measurement of time, is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1 I understand.

Speaker 2 Okay, so I think that at different times, she might have had different thought processes: like, okay, well, my career is booming, and blah, blah, blah, and this is what's feeding my soul right now.

Speaker 2 And she's dating and dating and whatever else. And, you know, maybe she has a long-term relationship and then it ends up badly.
And she's like, I need, I need, I need, I need time, time

Speaker 2 with myself.

Speaker 1 That would be really cool, what you just said, if she was Thor.

Speaker 1 What the fuck are we talking about? Am I missing something? He's talking about human.

Speaker 2 Ish was talking about how women will some, how people, but he's speaking about women, how they will feel like they have a lot of time.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 But listen, how are you asking Melissa Ford an opinion? Melissa Ford's opinion and Tracy Ellis Ross' opinion aligns. It aligns.
Melissa Ford didn't get married. She doesn't have any children.

Speaker 1 So she understands what Tracy. She aligns with Tracy.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm with that. So we can't try to change her perspective.
Exactly.

Speaker 2 And in this way, whatever I say is going to be dismissed.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 It's going to be dismissed because you agree with her sentiments.

Speaker 2 Because I understand it on a different level. You know,

Speaker 2 I just understand it on a different level.

Speaker 2 When she starts, when she talks about there's a grieving process that happens where you don't, where you look at your life and you're like, I never got married and I had never had kids.

Speaker 2 Like, there's a part of that, a part of you that has to grieve that. I understand what she's talking about, but I hold on, but I also understand,

Speaker 1 fuck you up.

Speaker 2 But I also understand what it means when she says, I'm whole. I know what she's talking about.

Speaker 2 Her life is very, is very full.

Speaker 2 If she came into a relationship tomorrow, she would come in a whole person, not looking for him to define her in any sort of way.

Speaker 1 Can I ask you one question?

Speaker 1 He doesn't want me to stretch it up.

Speaker 1 That belief of grievances, do you compartmentalize that?

Speaker 2 You mean grief?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm sure you have to. Yeah, I'm talking about you.
You and it, because you relate to it. So did you, like,

Speaker 1 all right, my fault. All right, he gonna.
No, that's a good question.

Speaker 1 Why are you doing that, man?

Speaker 1 Like, I apologize.

Speaker 2 No, the way that I, my own personal experience, the way that I look at things

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 2 if I really really had wanted to

Speaker 1 I would have

Speaker 2 because I've made everything else happen for myself manifestation but that was the one thing like that just

Speaker 1 so you do believe in manifestation but that three lines you said I don't agree with that joke

Speaker 2 I'm I'm doing a call back to you in manifestation but what I said about manifestation still stands not everybody manifests not everybody thinks it's real Not everybody just, you know, thinks like, oh, I'm going to manifest it and it's going to happen.

Speaker 2 Not everybody thinks that way. Whereas for you, manifestation is a very real practice for you on a daily basis.

Speaker 1 What was the three words? Well, you don't have any more questions. I'm asking you, stop doing that.

Speaker 1 I'm asking you now, not her. I'm asking you.
Fuck.

Speaker 1 You want me to shut up?

Speaker 1 What's the topic? Wait, do you want me to shut up? Yes or no? What's the topic?

Speaker 2 This same topic. I don't want you to shut up, Flip.
I actually want you to ask his question

Speaker 1 to you.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get at him. I already got a plan in a couple minutes.

Speaker 1 That three lines you I do that three lines you said was what this is you said the three Joe button lines was you got people that do what?

Speaker 1 Make shit happen. Watch shit happen.
Uh-huh. Or not know what happened.

Speaker 1 Make shit happen. Make shit happen.
Watch shit happen. Watch shit happen.
Yeah. Or not know what happened.
So somebody that makes shit happen

Speaker 1 does not have to believe in manifestation. That's true.
Okay, that's not true.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's a part of man. I don't really believe in the manifestation, but I make shit.
I don't think that's a matter of shape happen and I believe in manifestation.

Speaker 1 You could have a different way of making shit happen. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's not true. But go ahead.
So man, if you talk about internal manifestation? Before you make make it happen, you got to think it.

Speaker 1 And when you start thinking it, but

Speaker 1 manifestation is speaking it into existence. Or thinking it or writing it down.
It's a bunch of different

Speaker 1 methods. I don't think that.
I don't think everybody is making it happen. Got to think it.
I think some niggas is out here just

Speaker 1 bumping into shit.

Speaker 2 It's true. Some people do bump into shit, but when you're specifically.

Speaker 1 Bumping into shit. Some people inherit shit.
Yeah. Some people.

Speaker 1 It's just a million different ways to get to it, no? It's not true. Like inheritance, something making it happen.
Bumping into it is.

Speaker 1 Bumping into it is making it happen. I mean, it's manifestation.
If you really start looking at the laws of attraction and the laws of manifestation, you bumping into something.

Speaker 1 It might seem haphazard to you, but it's not haphazard. That's true.
And not just that. A lot of times you bump into shit.

Speaker 1 You have not prepared yourself for those things to even taking advantage of you bumping into some shit. You could be selling a roly for five grand.
Right?

Speaker 1 I ain't go to part. Everybody in here went on a vacation.
I ain't want to go. I'm sacrificing.
So now I got the $5,000 to buy the roly.

Speaker 1 Where if I went on a vacation with them niggas, I wouldn't have had the money. I prepped for that.
So my preparation met the opportunity. Now niggas call that luck.
It ain't luck.

Speaker 1 Yo, I see how you got a lot of pussy. I see how you got something, too.
A little bit. You just put shit together.

Speaker 1 For real.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be on the phone if I was a girl for a long time with him.

Speaker 1 He'd just be on the phone.

Speaker 1 Finding new ways.

Speaker 1 That's not true. Yeah, you would.
You would. You You definitely.
I wouldn't talk to him.

Speaker 1 I hang up, boy. No, you would.
You just dropped fuck me, dog. I ain't gonna get back on.

Speaker 1 You'll hang up. You just drop fucking me.
How much? I gotta come here and this shit in person. You should have to give me a house.

Speaker 1 That's the layup. To give me a house.
Yeah. You know how to trick.
You don't

Speaker 1 buy the house. Then what are you talking about, ladies? I'm going to show you how to tell you your house.
I'm not.

Speaker 1 No, you ain't going to show me nothing. You're going to buy.
I want that house you're going to be. You'll open your Jillo.

Speaker 1 And buy me. Al, you crazy, nigga? Yeah, that conversation answered.
Yeah, what the fuck you talking about? I don't even want to be around you, gold-digging ass.

Speaker 1 Ooh, can we be misogynistic for two seconds? Or you don't have to be misogynistic. Okay, let's hear it.

Speaker 1 The new trailer for the Fantastic Four came out,

Speaker 1 and Silver Surfer is a girl.

Speaker 1 Really? Yep. React.
It's kind of fire. Silver Surfeit.
Cool. That's kind of fire.

Speaker 1 I got to see the character. Tired of it.
I don't like the remixes of. Me neither.

Speaker 1 Classic characters. Come on.

Speaker 2 I would think that Silver Surfer would always be a girl.

Speaker 1 All right, come on, man. No,

Speaker 1 I don't understand the character.

Speaker 2 I don't have context. It's just I'm thinking about somebody coated in silver.
I just think that you'd want to see like a shapely physique.

Speaker 1 That's why you're so complex.

Speaker 1 This is why Disney's losing all their money. On one hand,

Speaker 1 y'all are just going with the flow and all helpless. We've been drowning in options.
And then God is a woman.

Speaker 1 God's not a woman. You're right, though, Flip.
A lot of people are tired of it.

Speaker 1 I don't want to see Silver Surfer be a girl. I'm going to say it.
This is why Disney loses a girl. And it might be fire.
I don't want to see it. I think it's still the movie.
I think it's dope.

Speaker 1 It might be dope. No, and I think they date doing it on purpose.
Again, to ask.

Speaker 1 It's like when they made Ernie and Burt gay.

Speaker 1 Well, they've been gay. No, sorry, don't bring that up.
Ernie and Burt was just friends at first. Yeah, they know.
So they got rid of guy friendship. They They got rid of guy friendship.

Speaker 1 They made it salacious.

Speaker 1 Disney's been doing it on purpose. Yes.
You are correct. They've been playing the inclusive game for a minute now.
Bullshit. And I always say I think it started with the success of Black Panther.

Speaker 1 What piece? Black Panther won. Yeah.
First one. Go to the second one.
Y'all ain't learned from Snow White? That was Latin Panther.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it went from there. And then I was like, oh, shit, we got that.
All right. Let's fuck Snow White.
Lean over here to to the women. Let's lean over here to the...

Speaker 1 They had a whole women's superhero montage scene in endgame.

Speaker 1 That's dope.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not saying it's bad, but it was unnecessary. They went out of their way to include it.
That's what people are saying. You're just springing it on us, ish.
We know, we know, we get it, ish.

Speaker 1 Look, you got yourself out the box of the misogynistic box. Cool.

Speaker 1 Jump out of it. That's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I'm sitting there fucking confused. Like, oh, shit.
No, no, I think that's far. No, you don't.
I do. A nigga, me, I'm a little bit more.
You learned from Mark, boy.

Speaker 1 If I thought it was whack, I would say it's whack. I don't think that that's.

Speaker 1 Dark Lamont, bro.

Speaker 1 Yo, I don't think that. The woman, Iron Man, the woman, Captain Fitch.
You got a big weak girl.

Speaker 1 Hey, Silver Surfer had a cock when we grew up.

Speaker 1 Silver Surfer didn't even have no cock. That nigga had nothing.

Speaker 1 I went back to watch the old Silver Surfer from the 80s, nigga, on Disney. I I want to see how strong they make them.
Because you know, Silver Surfer was super duper duper powerful. I want to see her.

Speaker 1 Do you think she should be a little weaker? All right, all right, here we go.

Speaker 1 She got a head shot, though.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. Let's go see.

Speaker 1 She got muscles, right? I can't do it.

Speaker 1 You know, women. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I mean, talk.

Speaker 1 I think that's fine. And again, from a financial standpoint,

Speaker 1 get them niggas to the movie theater. I think that that's dope.
And I think it's true.

Speaker 1 Shanchi.

Speaker 1 Let me go over here let's bro what are you so shocked about this need losing mad money he didn't say who it was playing silver surfer who is it tell us julia garner uh okay ozark ruth from ozark was it ruth was that her name yeah the little the blonde one with the foul mouth

Speaker 1 the girl from the casino the little girl that survived

Speaker 1 her

Speaker 1 we like her but nobody care leave put it back as a man bro excited sorry she's a great actor they just be doing whatever yo damn bitches can't surf

Speaker 1 well that's not true. That's not true.
That's not true. That's a joke.
They got some fire. They're right there.

Speaker 1 A bitch surfer right now, nigga.

Speaker 1 They're fire, nigga.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. They can surf.
Oh, my God. And they be hot.
Listen, the Silver Surfer I grew up with had a penis. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 She's about to come save today. Silver for all that, nigga.
No, she's not the hero. She's beefing with Fantastic Four, I think.
She's against it. Yeah, but I don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 1 I don't know what they're doing. Because Galactus is also in the preview.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, I got it. Hey, that's fire.
And that's when Silver Surfer and Fantastic Four got together to beat Galactic. But that's in the comics.
Galactus created Silver Surfer. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Galactus did creative. But clearly, they're changing something about the comics.

Speaker 1 Silver Surfer, Gabriel. Yeah.
He had a bunch of.

Speaker 1 Old as hell, nigga. I know.

Speaker 1 Old, yo. I don't know.
Oh, he wanted to do a survey.

Speaker 1 Oh, he wanted to find his love, nigga. What she wanted to do? Maybe he wanted to find his love.
Come back human to find, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 This is going to be fine. Save his plan.
I think this is going to be fire.

Speaker 1 I think this shit is going to be fire. I opened up my little fucking movie app trying to buy tickets to see Center.

Speaker 1 Forget about it.

Speaker 1 Sold out. Sold out.

Speaker 1 Sold out for weeks. Damn.
For weeks.

Speaker 1 Boy, on the days I could go sold out for weeks. Or that's not true.
One single seat I could buy, but I ain't doing that. Yeah, no.
No, that's a dub.

Speaker 1 It does look like a good movie. This nigga is a good movie.
It looks really, really good.

Speaker 1 I wish we had more for you, but Center is in theaters.

Speaker 1 And let's check it out.

Speaker 1 I saw a Ryan Koogler, I want to say Kodak

Speaker 1 piece.

Speaker 1 Respecting other film sizes. Oh my God, it was genius.

Speaker 1 It was genius. It was nurture, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but hearing somebody get like that, my bad, Ice and Parks, because I do be in pole. I be telling y'all niggas, shut the fuck up with all that geeky shit.
Yeah, you do.

Speaker 1 But when Ryan Koogler did it for the film,

Speaker 1 well, not just that, because I was lost, but he was showing examples too.

Speaker 1 Like, he was showing examples of what a movie looks like taped on 31, 35.

Speaker 1 This is what movies used to be shot in. This is the difference.
Like, it was like that for dummies, which was me. So, it was a really, really, really great job.
He smoked that shit.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Ron Kugler. For sure.
Friend of the show, Ron Kugler. If you find a spot with six seats, man, because you like to clear the road, let niggas know, nigga.

Speaker 1 Let us sit next to you. I'll do that.

Speaker 1 I'll definitely. I want to watch it so we can talk, nigga.
Talk about it on something, you know.

Speaker 1 I can see Flip at the movie theater now, you know. No,

Speaker 1 I can't see him.

Speaker 1 JR.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can't see him.

Speaker 1 No, that's not true. I'll sit there and watch it, nigga.
I just watch it in the theater.

Speaker 1 You know how long a movie is? Nigga, I watch Oppenheimer, nigga. In the theaters? Yes.

Speaker 1 All that shit is a fucking rouge in the act, so y'all niggas could just play off of some shit. I'll let y'all roam with that.
I can sit still and watch a fucking movie.

Speaker 1 I don't believe that.

Speaker 1 They go to the movies, nigga. I did watch Oppenheim.
I sat there with with my wife and I watched Oppenheimer in the future. Oh, I'm not talking about your wife.
You do shit.

Speaker 1 You can just do something with your wife. I'm talking about you.
I know the whole movie, but listen. So let's go to Watch Syndrome, nigga.
You clear the rope? No.

Speaker 1 Stop trying to play me, yo. I'm not.
I don't watch your camera. I don't want to go to the movies with you.

Speaker 1 I'm going with you, nigga.

Speaker 1 I'm going, nigga. You wait right there.

Speaker 1 I bet you I go. When you're in there, and I'll talk to you too, yo.
Okay. My brother.
I don't want no beep.

Speaker 1 Okay, Brian still joins Puff's defense team. Brian still is young thugs.

Speaker 1 Does this do anything for anybody out there in terms of the Puff case, how you view it? I don't know his other track record. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like if he supported some other bigger name artists in cases or some other, you know, hefty cases. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because sometimes them niggas, like, the proof is in the pudding.

Speaker 1 Some of them niggas have beat them.

Speaker 1 So I don't know.

Speaker 2 He should have tried to get Jose Baez.

Speaker 1 People saying that Puff wanting to go through this trial, like a speedy trial or go through it fast, may be a detriment to Puff. I read that.
Yeah, they said that. I read that as well.

Speaker 1 His lawyer should at least, any new lawyer you bring should at least have a year to gather information and stuff like that. So

Speaker 1 well,

Speaker 1 if I'm sitting in there, I want to rush a trial too. No, he didn't have a choice, though.
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 One of his other main parts of his counsel backed out, remember? We covered that too. So now you might have to replace them.
He has more attorneys.

Speaker 1 I know, I'm saying, but that was a part of his counsel. So you might have to replace him with somebody else.
I think that that's more reasonable reason to

Speaker 1 prolong it.

Speaker 1 I think that that's easy for us to say when you're not sitting in jail.

Speaker 1 I think that's part of the shit. Like, yo, they put you in a cage, they put you in a box, you puff.
You are accustomed to living larger than life, right?

Speaker 1 And now they got you in a little ass box, my nigga. Do you know the mental anguish that he going through? Yeah, I do think that's a strategy, though.
You get what I'm saying? Like, that's some shit.

Speaker 1 That's why we're not giving you no.

Speaker 1 He's not

Speaker 1 fighting the case one. He's a speedy trial.
Yeah, yes. I think that his team may feel like they don't have nothing and they're not going to get no

Speaker 1 take me to court while you don't have nothing so we can get this over. So you won't.
Okay, got it. I see.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because the burden of proof is on the prosecution.

Speaker 1 And if you got a real good.

Speaker 1 My nigga, they said that thugging them was done. They did.
They said them niggas is done. Supposedly, from the evidence that they had with thug and them, they was done.

Speaker 1 They home.

Speaker 1 So, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I think certain lawyers know, like, damn, this is damaging.
And then I think some lawyers be like, man, this shit ain't nothing.

Speaker 1 While we're on all this criminality shit, they added new charges to Luigi.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 one of those charges carried the death penalty. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 Now the death penalty is on the table for Luigi. Yeah, New York has a death penalty.
A federal grand jury,

Speaker 2 a federal grand jury in New York on Thursday returned a four-count indictment against alleged CEO killer Luigi Mangioni that charges him with two counts of stalking, firearms offense, and murder through the use of a firearm, a charge that makes him eligible for the death penalty if convicted.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen,

Speaker 1 I do think they

Speaker 1 again, I don't think that

Speaker 1 he

Speaker 1 did this. I've said this before, me either.

Speaker 1 And I also think that it's in their best interest to try to off him.

Speaker 1 You don't think that Luigi?

Speaker 1 I don't think he was the gunman. I don't think he was the trigger man.
You don't think he was the person under the mask that pulled the trigger on this dude that they have on camera? Me either.

Speaker 1 I'm skeptical too.

Speaker 1 Skeptical is different from. Yeah.

Speaker 1 skepticism is cool. That's different from

Speaker 1 I believe him to be innocent. Yeah, I believe.
Which is what y'all are saying. I believe that.
Why? They don't believe he's the man. They believe he's the only man.

Speaker 1 I know I'm asking why they believe that. There's a few things.
They talked about how his hotel to where my man got shot at, they have him on camera leaving his hotel at X time.

Speaker 1 And they said that he would have there and there had to be an Olympic biker to get to where the murder took place in the amount of time between him leaving the hotel and the time of the shooting.

Speaker 1 right so not just that he would have had to have gotten there set up got the right time got the right angle it ain't like he jumped off the bike was like bow bow bow bow bow you get i'm saying my man walked by they showed him being in the cut walking by which means he might have been set up there for a half an hour an hour waiting for this man to walk down that street i also think it took intimate knowledge to even know that he was going to walk this way down the street as opposed to this way we talking about manhattan he could have came from the left he could have came from the right he came behind this man knowing that he was coming down this particular street and shot him in the back of the head or shot him in the back i think all of that was calculated i also think that you're not smart enough to go from the kill scene you beat the new york city cameras which is not easy to do you got to central park you you you uh or he didn't beat the new york city cameras because they saw him go on the bus we have the footage that they have is from new york I'm talking about after the shooting,

Speaker 1 right? He got to Central Park, disposed of whatever he disposed of, but you're going to be dumb enough to have all this shit in your book bag in Pennsylvania,

Speaker 1 a letter.

Speaker 1 Didn't he have a mistake?

Speaker 1 I think he might have had on the same clothes. He might have.
I don't remember. Like all of that shit to me don't add up.

Speaker 1 You didn't take all of these necessary precautions to just be that fucking plumb dumb in another state when you could have went and bought some new clothes. That's just sound like a plant.

Speaker 1 It just sounded like some bullshit to me.

Speaker 1 I just think it sounds like bullshit. And I'm open to being wrong.
I could be wrong, though, but I

Speaker 1 question shit. And we watch too much shit, and we've seen too many movies and too many documentaries and all of that shit.
Where some of this shit don't tie in. I also talk about this.

Speaker 1 So you don't believe the manifesto stuff? Yeah, I don't believe that. So, wait.

Speaker 2 So, you believe that Luigi had a plan to kill him? He's just not the one to do that.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he had nothing to do with that, period. Holy shit.
I don't know. I'm not saying I could be wrong.
I'm just saying I don't know. What I also believe is if you're gonna give him.

Speaker 1 I also don't agree with him getting the death penalty.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of motherfuckers that get killed every single day, and y'all don't give the motherfuckers the death penalty when they kill no black people.

Speaker 2 Attorney General Pam Bondi has already signaled her intention to pursue the death penalty in the case, and his lawyers are actively trying to stop.

Speaker 2 Bondi said in a press release earlier this month that she ordered the death penalty for Mangioni to carry out President Trump's agenda to stop violent crime and and make America safe again.

Speaker 1 Pam Bondi have the same exact sentiment about somebody that just got killed in the Bronx.

Speaker 1 Would she have the same sentiment about a black kid getting killed in Queens? No, nope. And so that's my point.

Speaker 1 So you can't say that this white CEO's life is worth more than another life of some young, small black kid. Get the fuck out of my face.
Yes, you can. No, you can't.
You can 100% say that.

Speaker 1 No, you can't. Yes, you can say that.
I agree with you. I disagree with you.
You can say that. We can agree in disagreement.
We can say that. I know.
We're not. We're not.

Speaker 1 No, I'm saying we can agree to disagree. I don't believe that.
We're not saying it though. We're not disagreeing with it.
You can say it.

Speaker 1 We're not disagreeing with each other. You can say that.

Speaker 1 You can wonder if your life is not worth somebody else's life. Think that, believe that.
I don't know what the murder of homeboy

Speaker 1 did, but we're talking billions and trillions of dollars now. I can imagine there's some people in high places that don't want him around.

Speaker 1 To me, that's very different than

Speaker 1 black and brown kids being murdered in the Bronx that these weirdos that run this place don't really give a fuck about. I know that's the that's the point I'm making though.

Speaker 2 So his lawyer said that

Speaker 1 but you recogn well if you're making that point that means you identified a difference. No, there's a difference but when it comes to humanity I'm not talking about the value in life.
We agree

Speaker 1 but if you recognize the point then you see the difference that point that point plays into my point too. Tell me how.

Speaker 1 Because he was the CEO of whatever company he was the CEO of, somebody else might not have wanted him around.

Speaker 1 Repeat that for me. Somebody else might not have wanted them.
We've seen enough shit.

Speaker 1 They got to get this CEO, they want to remove him for whatever reason. So we'll set a plan in action.

Speaker 1 Wasn't he going to appear before Congress or something in the next couple days? I read something like that, but I haven't fact-checked.

Speaker 1 So who do y'all think did it? I think somebody higher up. Someone powerful did it.
Yeah. I agree.
That's what I think. And got away.
Yeah, yeah. They staged it to look the way they look.

Speaker 1 And they just picked this kid. They got their.
So why is he not saying that? Like, there's been plenty of times cameras been on him.

Speaker 1 Why has he, when they were moving outside, he said, he keeps chugging up news. He keeps saying, you.

Speaker 2 His lawyers might have told him, don't say a fucking word. This is like that is part of it.

Speaker 1 He spoke outside.

Speaker 1 When they were transferring him, he was yelling outside to the cameras.

Speaker 2 I know, but that was.

Speaker 1 Once did he say that

Speaker 2 that was probably prior to him having a lawyer.

Speaker 1 They can make you say you did it. Wait.
And I think one time he did say I'm innocent. And I think they shut him up in the very beginning.
He said I'm innocent. Yeah.
He He did say I'm innocent.

Speaker 1 One time,

Speaker 1 if my memory serves me correctly, y'all Google it yourself. I think he started talking with him.
He said I'm innocent.

Speaker 1 Or no, no, not innocent. Sorry, not guilty.

Speaker 2 Two different things. So apparently, that Mondi chick, she made the statements before the federal charges were actually levied.

Speaker 2 So that is what his defense attorney is filing her motion based off, saying that it improperly prejudiced the grand jury process.

Speaker 2 And she's asked the judge to preclude the government from seeking the death penalty.

Speaker 2 And she's also demanded that the government turn over documents and notes that relate to the Attorney General's directive.

Speaker 1 It's just big money, big time games that, you know, they're way above our understanding and our pay grade. But, bro, anytime I hear a CEO or something like that, I question.

Speaker 1 Sorry, that's just where we are. I question that shit.

Speaker 1 And I wouldn't be shocked.

Speaker 1 All right, I don't have anything else in pod and law and order.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't have anything else. That was all I had.

Speaker 1 Thoughts and prayers.

Speaker 1 Thoughts and prayers too?

Speaker 1 Everybody involved. Like, homeboy got a family.

Speaker 1 The deceased has a family. Like, all of those people, definitely, it's a trying to.
Yo, did you guys see

Speaker 1 what's the kid that got killed in Texas?

Speaker 1 Carmelo Anthony's parents were doing a press conference and the father of the victim showed up to the press conference.

Speaker 1 And?

Speaker 1 He was just standing there and then the lawyer stated how

Speaker 1 the father being here is disrespectful to his son's death because we, Carmelo Anthony, his family, have not

Speaker 1 given their opinion on their son's death. On his.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The police came to exclude him out.
Well, I don't think he left though.

Speaker 1 paid back though. Oh, yeah.
He was standing there, though, right in the middle. Press conference, nigga.
With some shit on his hand, like a sling.

Speaker 1 That's what it got. Oh, niggas going to choose.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just looking crazy.
I think that's crazy.

Speaker 1 Would you do that? Maybe. I might not have the resolve to do that, but.
Nigga, that's like some type of

Speaker 1 hands, right? And I'm not saying that to take away from anybody, but it's like an intimidating technique. I'm just asking.

Speaker 1 Nigga, why are you still.? We're doing a press conference. I want to hear what you have to say.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nigga, watch it on TV. I like it on TV.

Speaker 1 I don't want to watch it on TV. You want to go to...
Oh, I ain't. I want you to see me.
You want to see me while you're talking about TV?

Speaker 1 No, I just want you to see me while you see me. Did he start acting irate before they started pulling him out or no? Yeah, he was sad somehow.

Speaker 1 Before they... They had to remove him.

Speaker 1 He just swept at the conference. Gotcha.
That's something I'm saying. He was standing there in the middle.
Nigga, the conference is right there. That's y'all too.
Nigga, he's standing right here.

Speaker 1 Where Mel is at? Just look at the money.

Speaker 1 You don't even have the capacity to be here right now.

Speaker 1 Your child just was murdered. Now

Speaker 1 you don't have that wherewithal to stand here and look at the killer or who you perceive to be the killer give a speech. I don't know.
Take your ass home. Evidently he did.

Speaker 1 Now if he started being irate in the middle of the press conference, that's something different.

Speaker 1 But if he sat there quietly,

Speaker 1 that's his right. Well they're saying that the two brothers jumped at the troop.
So now the definition of that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, now they had said that a few weeks ago, that the brothers jumped him. Again, I'm waiting for facts, for actual facts.
I'm not saying nothing because it's a lot going on.

Speaker 1 It is is a lot of information

Speaker 1 spreading misinformation

Speaker 1 going well

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 yeah I don't think

Speaker 1 they're trying to slam Carmelo Anthony I've seen this story floating around about the crib that they staying in now and how they trending to go fund me

Speaker 1 and and and the mom debunked that she said it's capable received one red cent from that go fund me

Speaker 1 you know what i mean and she talked about her 13 year old daughter being scared and stuff i mean she...

Speaker 1 And they live in a million-dollar home. They always got to make us be a fucking

Speaker 1 charity case. Like, we all just bum niggas.

Speaker 1 Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yo, we just all bum niggas or if we got some money, we had to get it through some ill-gotten means. Like, get the fuck out of my face.

Speaker 1 I do see the stories running around, like, people that's commenting on this saying that if he came from a good home or a home that wasn't impoverished, like, what went wrong?

Speaker 1 Like, they're saying that, there's some people saying that, that's what what they're saying.

Speaker 1 Like, there's some people saying that we're because we're black, we're highlighting Camilla Anthony and not looking at the victim. Some black people saying that.
You should not see the shit.

Speaker 1 It's a whole group of them.

Speaker 1 But I think how they broke the story initially is what has the people pushing back because they broke the story initially, like he was just on some terroristic bullshit, stabbing up people.

Speaker 1 And then now, as they release information, that's not the case.

Speaker 1 And it's so easy for white people to understand that we just some violent animals, my nigga, running around fucking with people, and that's not always the case.

Speaker 1 White people be not all, because that just sounds bad. Of course.
But in these circumstances, we be talking about white people be out of place and out of pocket.

Speaker 1 It wasn't them brothers' place to tell him he couldn't sit there.

Speaker 1 That wasn't a place.

Speaker 1 Like, there's a step past too familiar. You know,

Speaker 1 a lot of that Karen shit. Yo, I've seen the Karen shit where the lady won't let a dude in the building.
You can't come in this building. What? I don't know you.
You can't come here. Do you live here?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I live here. What floor you live on?

Speaker 1 on none of your business yeah we see i watched one with a lady seen the video going viral uh not too long ago where uh the black dude and his kid was just walking in the neighborhood and the white lady came and said you don't live here that's not your house what are you doing here not your house that's not your place george zimmerman that's not your place

Speaker 1 um even home even homeboy uh

Speaker 1 what's uh stephen jackson man that died when the cop put his sharp derek stronger that's not your place it's not your place

Speaker 1 Floyd died. It's not your place to put your knee.
You a cop. You can't put your knee on somebody.
Arrest him and do your fucking job. You sit down.
Why can't people be out of place sometimes?

Speaker 1 And this is one of those examples.

Speaker 1 I told you the way. Why this shit could be avoided by minding your fucking business? Or, bro, that simple.
The one I'm talking about, a lady wouldn't let to do it in the building.

Speaker 1 She sat him in the lobby. He's like, ma'am, could you, I just came from the gym.
I'm sweaty. Could you get out the front of the door? So then he had to physically, she was like, don't touch me.

Speaker 1 He's like, ma'am, I'm asking you. He moved out the way.
She followed this nigga to his his fucking apartment. He pulled out the key and was like, now how the fuck you feel? She was like, no,

Speaker 1 I'm saying I just didn't know. Started damn near trying to give him some pussy.

Speaker 1 And it was crazy. My nigga, she sat the nigga at the door.
Tommy's like, you don't live here. Yes, I do.
Prove it. I don't have to prove shit to you.

Speaker 1 Who the fuck makes y'all the authority on regular people? Get the fuck out of my face. Mind your fucking business.
Fuck out of here. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And they take that shit to another level and it's passed down some of it to, I'm an authoritative figure. You got to answer my questions.
No, I don't. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do y'all care about the Drake UMG stuff?

Speaker 1 I read it. What's the newest update?

Speaker 1 A lot of amendment to the complaint. And I went through.
It was like 180-something pages. I read a lot of it.

Speaker 1 I did see they quoted

Speaker 1 Joe.

Speaker 1 Us. Really? No, they didn't.
By the JBP. No, no.
They quoted Joe button. They quoted Joe button.

Speaker 2 Do you happen to know what that quoted

Speaker 1 from the JBP, though? J-A-B. With all of us.

Speaker 1 That was the episode All of Us was in, y'all.

Speaker 2 Oh, so now we're all your Code's in this one, too?

Speaker 1 Cody.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 but Code's in this. It was mostly in regards to the Super Bowl performance, right? The omelets? No, no, not all of it.

Speaker 1 They took out some of the botting stuff, like the claim of botting. Because everyone was doing that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The part that really stands out to me, and I'm just curious.

Speaker 1 So they used Joe's quote of

Speaker 1 admitting it, like, yeah, I know Kendrick used bots, yeah, right? Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 That's where it gets tricky. Because if you're using this and you're saying that

Speaker 1 that was a factual statement that he made on the show, yeah,

Speaker 1 so are you saying everything on the show is a factual statement? It's not. No, but because

Speaker 1 you yourself on Taylor Made, as Pac says, talk about them like a young girl's. I heard it on the Joe Button podcast.
It's got to be true.

Speaker 1 And that's your whole claim: is, hey, what was said, I mean, these claims about me are not true.

Speaker 2 So if you give me a true truth, you can't have it both ways, is what you're saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, I just read that, and I'm like, well, dog,

Speaker 1 is what's said true or not?

Speaker 1 Drake, I hate to refer to the tag you, but

Speaker 1 I was just talking.

Speaker 1 Hey, I was just talking shit, big dog. I was just getting some engagement going.
Hey, not nobody on Universal done. Text me, called me, paid me.

Speaker 1 They didn't give me the scoop. I just up here around my mouth.
Man, they got it. Hey, it ain't no deeper than that, Drake.

Speaker 1 All the reaction videos,

Speaker 1 tweets, like they

Speaker 1 have all of this shit. I'm with you.
I think that bots was in play. But for me say that factually

Speaker 1 i'm sorry buddy but subpoena me

Speaker 1 i think bots have been in play i love none more than to come up to court

Speaker 1 show my show my face see what's going on and that on

Speaker 1 what in that case though and have the scoop first

Speaker 1 it'll be me and meg cutliff whatever her name is

Speaker 1 me and my girl let me take the stand

Speaker 1 see what up there act the ass on that stand oh man and then um g replied and said, hey, discovery works both ways, so be careful.

Speaker 1 And then Drake's lawyers replied and said, nigga, shut the fuck up. Suck my dick.
Yeah, we don't give a fuck what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 Juicy.

Speaker 1 Tyree, I was just going to say, are you all over this shit, bro? Do I think he's going to win? I don't know. I don't think so.
I don't think he is, but what do I know?

Speaker 1 There's rumors going around about settlements.

Speaker 1 Like, if he settles,

Speaker 1 he wins.

Speaker 1 not necessarily crazy as hell if they get that nigga some money in a settlement he wins what did he win but some money

Speaker 1 money or if my i mean well yeah he could

Speaker 1 sue him for money

Speaker 1 my goal my goal could be to get out of this i think the money is the secondary thing my independence that could be my goal yeah i'm not this

Speaker 1 if i negotiate that using all of this then yeah he wins

Speaker 1 it ain't necessarily got to be the money it could be i want to get the fuck away from y'all y'all.

Speaker 1 I don't know what his status of who I am. I don't know what his end game is.

Speaker 1 The number floating that, the settlement number that's floating around is 220. 250

Speaker 1 million, right?

Speaker 1 And I think he turned it down, right?

Speaker 1 I don't know. We just speculate.

Speaker 1 I don't know shit. What about no settlement? I don't know nothing.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 do not listen to me as it pertains to any of this lawsuit shit.

Speaker 1 I just think it's fun to fucking kick the shit about and work. for sure.
But you end up in there,

Speaker 2 if he ends up in there, he can say, refer to the tag in the front.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but let me say it on the stand. Subpoena me.
That nigga Joe, I don't know how you're gonna do it. Put that shit on.
So he can wear that Valencia. You can put that

Speaker 1 in the shit. You subpoena me.
I will tell you what I know. Put that clean.
I mean, you gotta have a note. Yo, don't buy.
Oh, yeah, we'll all pull up. Don't go buy no shirt, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Group outing. Joe, gotta do that shit.
That collar gotta stand up like this. Yeah,

Speaker 1 like a stiff joint. What? You spray starch on that shit.

Speaker 1 Put that shit on.

Speaker 1 Wallow, I'm gonna find that nigga that you talked into living.

Speaker 1 Yo, Joe, stop. Yo, I'm not over that.
Let that shit go.

Speaker 1 No, that's like the Jussie Smollett shit to me.

Speaker 1 Joe. But he's my man, so I don't say it.
That was the biggest crocker shit. You do this.
And we love Wallow, so we don't say nothing. You forgot power for your voices.

Speaker 1 Wallow. Now, if it was that, what happened? We called him, that never went out right no i'm putting that call out look look funny you mentioned this so

Speaker 1 on the bridges now they got like a a sign

Speaker 1 if you're going through anything and it's a qr code i know this because i was driving across the bridge and i saw a dude walking with his phone out and i'm like what the fuck is he taking a picture of and it's like you know basically just telling people yo If you need help, here's somebody you can talk to, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 No, I didn't do the wallow. I kept driving.

Speaker 1 But I did look over and say, oh, shit, niggas be really old. Just the QR code take you to Wallow? Afrophobia.

Speaker 1 Oh, you let. That's the Afrophobia I was talking about.
But go ahead. If it was a slim girl, white girl, you let her.
But go ahead. It was a white dude.

Speaker 2 Listen to how they talk about you.

Speaker 1 I know. I know.
It's one of my brothers.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's some shit out. They're trying to.
I got you, Freeze. Yeah.
This thing of Joe just be saying. He just be saying.

Speaker 1 My brain don't just hear certain.

Speaker 1 If that happened, and I asked him on the call you did

Speaker 1 Is cops already there?

Speaker 1 Yes. The cops allowed him

Speaker 1 to go and do all that shit because the guy probably responded to him. Joe.
I know. Let me ask you a question.
He probably walked up. Just say,

Speaker 1 God forbid,

Speaker 1 you were in that position. Oh.

Speaker 1 Which position? As the person that was potentially going to jump, right? Okay. Could two white cops.
I'm assuming they were white. So let me me just say

Speaker 1 right two white cops be talking to you and then

Speaker 1 Prince, Skane,

Speaker 1 Jay,

Speaker 1 anybody just so happy, you gonna relate more to them than these fucks? Get the fuck out of my face. Don't nobody want to talk to Officer Kaczynski?

Speaker 1 Let me talk to somebody that I relate to that been through some shit that could say, yo, my nigga, I did 20 years in jail, and I know it could get better.

Speaker 1 That might resonate with you more than some motherfucking

Speaker 1 cop. Niggas say, yeah.

Speaker 1 Do your thing. You a father, you're going to fit him.
You're a father, right? You're going to look for him? Do your thing. Stop, yo.
Hey. Stop.
You absolutely right. Leave that guy alone, man.

Speaker 1 He lived. He survived.
That's it, man. Shout out to Wallow.
Because Wallow was like, yeah, that I FaceTime his aunt.

Speaker 1 His sister. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He kept calling mad numbers, and then they finally got. He said his family came there, too.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Man, shout out to my nigga Wallow. Shout out to Wallows.
One person at a time. Always in the right place, Wallow.

Speaker 1 Stop, man. That's fucking heavy.

Speaker 1 Hey. He just give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like I said, I was like,

Speaker 1 if a robot saw the nigga, that could have been

Speaker 1 in the right place. I don't know if you're not.
You ain't give a fuck, man.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 if you would have saw that, would you have Joe Paz, Joe? If you would have saw that, would you have Joe Paz? If you see somebody. If you see a nigga stand up on the bridge like this.
Would you

Speaker 1 would you drive past or would you talk to him? Because you a person that experienced some sort of

Speaker 1 would you stop and talk to him? He'll listen to you. I would.

Speaker 1 I see. Which car? Listen to your man.

Speaker 1 Stop playing around. I said I wasn't.
You're in your Ferrari. Oh, I gotta stop him.

Speaker 1 I'm some photos. What are you stopping for people to see? Photo ops.
You gotta see that one?

Speaker 1 You a photo. You got a shot ass nigga.
What's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 So if you were so. You were so.
You gotta pull my my shit up. Right.
Right to do.

Speaker 1 Right to do.

Speaker 1 Don't do it. Change on.

Speaker 1 Let me do the wallow.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Call me.
What do you cameras do? Hey.

Speaker 1 Rashik.

Speaker 1 Let's fucked up. Stop.

Speaker 1 Stop it. What's wrong with you? The one moment Gilly wasn't nowhere around up.

Speaker 1 Just Wallow alone. Yo, you were so, though.

Speaker 1 You were so. You were so.
I don't think you could watch him like Jump Joe. Nah, you wouldn't.
I wouldn't. I'm telling y'all do the same thing he did.
But not, no, you, no.

Speaker 1 I'm letting y'all know when I start, I don't want to hear shit.

Speaker 1 I'm setting up some shit.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm saving lives, nigga. When I save lives, I don't want to hear a fucking thing.

Speaker 1 Joe run out the burning building with twins.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you. I'm telling you what.
Shout out to Wallow, yo. Yeah, shout out to Wallow.
Oh, shout out to Wallow, man.

Speaker 1 That shit was fucking ass brain though. Look, you're an idiot, bro.
So only one car driving by taped that

Speaker 1 and got it right to Tasha Kay.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 It might have come off the collar? Moving on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the body cam, right?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, it was in the car. The guy drove by the car, and the police said, Come on, get, move, move.

Speaker 1 That press release still only went to the car.

Speaker 2 Oh, for fuck's sake.

Speaker 1 Only personal? No. No one else has posted it since.
That little press release. What do you think?

Speaker 2 That's a lie, but okay.

Speaker 1 Who else posted it?

Speaker 1 I'm not talking about it. Move right on.

Speaker 1 They're doing it jointly with the press release for the movie. Oh, really? At T-Soute?

Speaker 1 The fuck?

Speaker 2 Somebody just bring up the cake. Just

Speaker 1 bring up the cake down. No, no, no, no.
I don't even know. That cake should have gold.
It's over. That cake should have been.
It's a wrap at it. It's a wrap for somebody.
It's called taking you out.

Speaker 1 Oh, so let's see. Depany Luigi, Wayne Liesworth to Male, Silver Surfer is a woman.
Drake cites us in lawsuit. Corey Hogan.
Corey Ogum, I get to you on Patreon, buddy.

Speaker 1 You got one coming your way.

Speaker 1 Sexy Red, Tiny Richman, Creaspino, Bunny Hill, Brian Still. I done done.
I don't care about this shit.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 Nothing else.

Speaker 1 Nothing else.

Speaker 1 What did you say?

Speaker 1 Unless you guys have

Speaker 1 a like to share with your audience. It's Easter weekend.
Y'all doing anything with the kids?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dropping them off.

Speaker 1 Right to Grandpa.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Oh, I don't know.
I'm not sure. I don't even know what Easter means in that.
I don't have it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Niggas don't get Easter clothes, Easter eggs. It's also 420.

Speaker 2 It is 420.

Speaker 1 Niggas gonna hire weed and the Easter egg.

Speaker 1 That's a fire.

Speaker 1 Who the fuck can afford eggs and paint on them?

Speaker 1 Brown.

Speaker 1 We can't afford no eggs. Plastic.

Speaker 1 I wasn't. My daughter did ask me, though.
She's like, can we have an Easter egg hunt? I was like, uh,

Speaker 1 I don't even know where one is.

Speaker 1 Just do the Canberra eggs. Nah, the chocolate ones.

Speaker 1 We got the little plastic shits. Put a little shit in there.

Speaker 1 We got the plastic shit. So I'm going to set that.
Are you doing Easter too with you? My daughter came home with the plastic shit yesterday. So you doing it? Yeah, but what you doing? You gonna hop?

Speaker 1 You can't hop, niggas.

Speaker 1 I mean, you could hop. You could hop.
That shit was a daddy rabbit. You could hop.
No, she's going to an Easter egg, huh?

Speaker 1 I'm not going. Where is that? You got to be there, boy.
Wow. Yeah, you know, you got to be there.
My girl going. Is this? Oh, I know that trick.
Hey.

Speaker 1 Easter.

Speaker 1 I know

Speaker 1 you know what the shit you get off i'll be gonna make a listen it's only to you because you get off a lot of bro you're cold i gotta your codes that you be putting out there

Speaker 1 i try to get home but it don't work

Speaker 1 it don't work he dog whistled a mother

Speaker 1 so what you be doing

Speaker 1 what you do at three in the morning oh well that's a good question i'm with my i'm with my 20 year old son no you're not you on spaces in the house next to my wife saying Saying, Dan, that's a nice picture.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, hey, yo, hey, yo. Hey, yo, Rosalie, what's your IG? Here's the thing.
Why are you not going? It's your first.

Speaker 1 Hold your door.

Speaker 1 Two or one, two, IG, IK.

Speaker 1 Why are you killing what Rosalie looks like?

Speaker 1 At three in the morning. You know, room.
Thank you. What room?

Speaker 1 112?

Speaker 1 I don't know what y'all talking about. Get the fuck out of this.

Speaker 1 Look at this room. I did it.
Nah, because you have to answer the question. That's what you do.
You don't answer the question, you reverse it. I answered you.
Yes.

Speaker 1 My wife is dead. She knows who Rosaline is.
Now. No, she don't.
It's okay.

Speaker 1 It's all right. It's all right.
Yeah, stop playing, yo. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Excuse me, sir.
I'm sorry I have to wake you. You're a doctor.

Speaker 1 Kadarius Tony is a rapper now.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you, he's a retired man. Look at her face back.

Speaker 1 Look at her face.

Speaker 1 Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry I have to wake Cause you're a doctor.
That's your friend. Mel, you think your performance is warranted a drop? Oh, shit.
I don't know. I'm asking.

Speaker 1 That's a yes or no question. No, you go to the next one.
That's a yes or no. I won't go right now.
Time here.

Speaker 1 Oh, that.

Speaker 1 So she knows her performance.

Speaker 1 I'm not dignifying that with an answer. Seniority? You're saying? Yeah.
Seniority don't get you a drop, male. Okay.

Speaker 1 You've been promising her a drop, Joe. It's coming.
We just can't force it. Don't be afraid.
Nigga, you gotta

Speaker 1 drop on our podcast. I gotta see the theatrical.
You ain't gotta drop on Flip the Network. Fuck y'all.
I'm good with the. I don't want to drop.

Speaker 1 Y'all gotta see what y'all man did when he was doing the drop. Yo, ice, parks, like we talked to y'all back then.

Speaker 1 Walking like this and shit like that. Corey, I'm watching nigga mail looking like, what do you think they're doing? I don't want

Speaker 1 my phone, upload and shit. He came out, press the button, play it again.
That's fire.

Speaker 1 Excuse me, sir. I'm sorry I have to wait.

Speaker 2 Look, I got fucking small hands, a soft mouth, okay? I'm doing just

Speaker 1 Kadarius Tony

Speaker 1 retired now, Kadarius Tony. Oh, he retired from the league? Yeah, retired.
Yes,

Speaker 1 formerly of the Kansas City Chiefs and Giants.

Speaker 1 I guess, maybe. He was nice in college, too.

Speaker 1 He was nice.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 hey, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 It's him on the beat.

Speaker 1 All right, that's brand new cuz there is Tony.

Speaker 1 Was he nice in the league? No. He was very talented.
Didn't really work.

Speaker 1 He was talented. He wasn't nice.
So if you tell, I don't. Okay.
It didn't work out for him on the field.

Speaker 1 All right. His physical ability is amazing.
Yeah. He's not a bad player.
He's nigga.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's not a bad football player at all.

Speaker 1 He had a lot of potential.

Speaker 1 Yo, should we do that over or are we going to leave his leukemia in the fucking recording set?

Speaker 1 What the fuck? What are you doing?

Speaker 1 You can't just come here and beat with leukemia. Do I walk off the set to go cough in the bathroom? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because last time I did, when I went to the bathroom, I heard that my back was being kicked in.

Speaker 1 Yes, that is true. You're getting out of hand.
But you run that risk when you have to leave set for any reason. We're going to kick you back in.
Gotcha. You wasn't coughing at Bernice party.

Speaker 1 No, the air was fresh.

Speaker 1 Breathing mad clear, Bernice said.

Speaker 1 Right? Forever

Speaker 1 young. She brought him out, Joe.
Whoo, okay.

Speaker 1 Nice. That nigga flipped.
Ran up to somebody.

Speaker 1 She talked about something. Oh, shit, Lonnie Blair.

Speaker 1 My girl, I love Lonnie. I know for a long time.

Speaker 1 I know for a long time. It's good to see you.

Speaker 1 It was like... Never.
Watch it. Watch it.
It's dead. It was good to see Lonnie.
Get out of Lonnie's face, man. I love Lonnie.
That nigga said, that nigga act like he's seen Coco beware. No, because

Speaker 1 she's nice. Like, some people are beautiful and nice.
Like, she's just, she's a nice girl.

Speaker 1 Man, when your birthday party? Next week.

Speaker 2 My birthday's in November.

Speaker 1 What you did?

Speaker 2 For my last birthday?

Speaker 1 She went on vacation.

Speaker 1 Did I? I don't think so. She always got to be cryptic.
Girl, just tell a dude. Remember, I went, I had a night out with my girlfriends.
We got to throw her 50th, yo.

Speaker 1 We got to do that for Mel.

Speaker 1 48th.

Speaker 1 What are you saying? 48th this year, Male? Yeah. We got to throw a party, Joe.

Speaker 1 I think Mel would cry. She would lose something.
Mel would love that. She would fucking faint, man.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 People really care about me.

Speaker 1 No, get up. You know, it's going to gonna smell it so.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, they do not me. She loses her mind.
Oh my god, so many people show up. I thought I had no one.
Can you imagine if you would do it if Tara popped up there?

Speaker 1 Would you forgive her in real time?

Speaker 1 If we invited Tara to the party and she came, would you forgive her?

Speaker 1 What's her name?

Speaker 1 Tahira. Tahara.

Speaker 1 Tahara. No, male, no, I'm gonna ask you a question, man.
Listen, listen, what's it?

Speaker 1 Please don't. If she come to the party, please don't

Speaker 1 tell me. If she came to the party, party, male, would you forgive her in real time? Like, oh, you came to support me.

Speaker 1 If you do that, you got to make that same girl seating section that you did at my party. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I did not do anything. I just sat down.

Speaker 1 You held the chair, nigga.

Speaker 2 I sat down. You said Angie.

Speaker 1 And they.

Speaker 1 She tried to use Angie's name. I saved it for Angie.
No, you didn't. That's not what you did.
I saved it for me, Angie, and other people. All right, I'm moving on.
It's fine. It's fine.

Speaker 1 All right, so you guys don't have anything else that is near and dear to your heart that you have to share with the 3 million people listening right now? No? No. No.
No? Everybody cool? We cool, man.

Speaker 1 We got part of the show?

Speaker 1 No. I have a sleeper.
Let's see, Kadarius Tony, Silver Server. Oh, I wanted to play Van Lathan crying because it tugged at my heartstrings.

Speaker 1 And then I'll play a sleeper. All right.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Like, really? If you don't mind sharing, what's everything negative you believe about yourself? That I have to be more at all times? Oh, let me pause this. That was such a great question.

Speaker 1 Let me ask my cast.

Speaker 1 What is everything negative you guys believe about yourselves? Anybody tough enough to answer? Yes. Or should I just play the clip? Play the clip, man.

Speaker 1 You're such a pussy.

Speaker 1 If you don't mind sharing, what's everything negative you believe about yourself? That I have to be more at all times. When my dad died, like I lost the opportunity to like really gain his respect.

Speaker 1 I've been chasing it for like a long time for him to like, you know, kind of look at me like he looked at himself. When I was a kid, I was tall enough.

Speaker 1 He used to make me sit down on the ground when he would talk to me. As big as what I was everywhere else, I just wanted to be like big in front of him.
And now it's done.

Speaker 1 Nothing is making me feel connected to him. Name change, the hat.
The hat, the name change. Those are coping mechanisms.

Speaker 1 Majority of men of his era, where he grew up at, he didn't know how to express the love for you the same way my dad did. It's not about the hat.
It's not about the phenomenon.

Speaker 1 bad. It's about here what you are believing about yourself.
You're a phenomenal. What you accomplished with all you dealing with inside?

Speaker 1 Your father didn't have the capacity to tell you that, but I tell you that. If you was my son, I'd be highly pleased.

Speaker 1 Yeah, nigga, you want, yeah, you can't tell a nigga that.

Speaker 1 That shit's nothing.

Speaker 1 That shit don't be working, though. Like when sometimes when a nigga vent it, I don't want to hear that shit if I was a nigga.
I want the respect for my pops.

Speaker 1 I don't want to hear if I was your son, nigga.

Speaker 1 I want the respect for my father. Salute, thank you.
But niggas don't want to hear that in a real life. Did you just say his dad died?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's not soothing.

Speaker 2 I mean, maybe it is to him. That was Mr.
Jason Wilson.

Speaker 1 He still told him Mr. Jason Wilson, Paul, meet Paul.
How about Jesus? I know. For who it is, nigga.

Speaker 1 I almost cheered up listening to that for the first time because I didn't expect Van to get so for real on the question. Like, he really answered it.
He told me he answered it.

Speaker 1 Nah, that nigga Jason Wilson.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Jason Wilson, but still.

Speaker 1 Fuck you.

Speaker 1 Like, one man got deep like that.

Speaker 1 That's different to hear black. Because he was being vulnerable.
Something negative.

Speaker 2 And he felt like he was in a safe space to be vulnerable.

Speaker 1 Melissa, you could quit this job.

Speaker 1 You could quit. Girl.
Anyway,

Speaker 1 what? Now that was a joke. Oh,

Speaker 2 you. He's just, he's just stabbing me, like, literally.

Speaker 1 No, because, Mel, no, I got your joke. Don't try to hide your joke and highlight mine.
Fuck out of here, Mel.

Speaker 1 He was in a safe thing.

Speaker 1 He was in a really safe

Speaker 1 vulnerable with a doctor. I hired a doctor, but your ass.

Speaker 2 He wasn't a doctor.

Speaker 1 Who? Do you want us to cry?

Speaker 2 Jason Wilson's not a doctor.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, I hired a doctor, though.

Speaker 1 Do you want us to cry up here, Bill? I mean, no, not necessarily.

Speaker 2 Not if you don't want to, but if you want to, I mean, it's just.

Speaker 1 You think this is

Speaker 1 not?

Speaker 1 No, but when you ask, when the question, what do y'all think about what family goes up?

Speaker 1 God damn it.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I thought it was beautiful.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Okay. No, no.

Speaker 1 I want to answer the question. I think what he said was wonderful, how open he was.
I like the question that you asked earlier.

Speaker 1 I just had to dig in my negative arsenal about myself, but I wanted to answer that. But I think what he did was beautiful.
Yeah, I think it was beautiful. To be vulnerable and talking.

Speaker 1 Yeah, two black men to be that comfortable and vulnerable to share it with the world. I respect that.
There's a lot of people that...

Speaker 1 inspires others to come forward and talk about what they think negative about themselves.

Speaker 1 That was a question, right? Yeah, you terrible, bro.

Speaker 1 I ain't get that. I mean, salute.
Well, he says everything negative about yourself, that I have to be more?

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 that he's not enough.

Speaker 1 You don't feel like you're good enough.

Speaker 2 That he's not enough. Okay.
A lot of people feel that way.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of people that feel like that. All right.

Speaker 1 Or whatever I accomplish is just not enough. Like, people feel like they, yeah, it's a lot of people.

Speaker 1 To them, to their family, a lot of people out here living to impress their family, living in impressive people. But it's not to themselves.

Speaker 1 Why does it have to be anybody? I said to him first. I said, him.

Speaker 1 i know but ice looks like he's dismissing even that no i'm not dismissing i just i just there are plenty of people that feel like they themselves are not enough for whatever the reason okay it's like imposter syndrome

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 1 like i said i didn't i didn't get it y'all y'all explained it cool i think it was dope

Speaker 1 i think it was dope and i think that um for all your therapy you're a therapy person you're a therapy person i think that he let it out and now you got to figure out how to fix it or heal it right Ain't that what therapy does?

Speaker 1 Like they identify the problem. I'm not trying to be funny.
It's just

Speaker 1 sort of hype.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, don't you identify the problem first? Yes. You can't fix something that you don't identify first.
And then my man is starting to give him the necessary tools to fix it.

Speaker 1 Like, yo, I believe in you, my nigga. Whatever your father thought, I don't think that.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Speaking only for me, though, I'm outside because Van Story was beautiful. But

Speaker 1 if me and my dad are having a turbulent relationship or not seeing eye to eye when I'm younger

Speaker 1 and then I get taller than you. I knew he was going to say something, yo.

Speaker 1 I'm not sitting on no floor.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's all I got.
Look at y'all waiting for me to beat your idiot, bro. No, because we

Speaker 1 know he was going. Sit on the floor?

Speaker 1 Which floor? What floor?

Speaker 1 Dad,

Speaker 1 knock the monkey shit up. But that might speak to his father's insecurity.
I had to beat that.

Speaker 1 I don't want to to hear from niggas that beat their dad up before.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 your dad can't just say anything in the name of dad. Sit on the floor.
But not sit on the floor, but your dad can say anything he wants. Father.

Speaker 1 It's how you receive it. And I'm going to look up to you being short.
No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 You can stand up. That sit on the floor should sound crazy, but.
But

Speaker 1 sometimes your father would, you know. Because now you're just trying to, now you're being mean.
You're trying to demoralize.

Speaker 1 You're trying to break my spirit or something. Like, stop playing with me.
Some people live life to impress their parents or get acceptance from their parents.

Speaker 1 A lot of people live life like that. They don't want to.
I understand that.

Speaker 1 The sad part for me in that story is your parent passing

Speaker 1 with you having or having these on those cameras. Exactly.
Yeah. No, that's that's not.
Shout out to Van Lathan, man. I just thought that that was deep and extremely vulnerable for a podcaster.

Speaker 1 He shocked the shit out of me.

Speaker 1 All right. Talking a bunch.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. All right.
My sleeper for the week. I'm going with Jacob Lattimore.

Speaker 1 This record is called Win Win.

Speaker 1 Stay until the morning time.

Speaker 1 And if we fucking baby, keep it low-key. Race to the finish line.

Speaker 1 I finally met somebody more on my speed.

Speaker 1 Do you really think I could've seen it in your eyes?

Speaker 1 Girls, I was trying to take a nigga by surprise.

Speaker 1 This time

Speaker 1 it's mine.

Speaker 1 All I know is you're finna make me lose my mind.

Speaker 1 All I know is I'm gonna make you say it's mine.

Speaker 1 Could it be up?

Speaker 1 Could it be up?

Speaker 1 Girl, that just does

Speaker 1 ride it like a pony. Baby, shut up.

Speaker 1 don't interrupt.

Speaker 1 Until it up, don't lose your focus, keep your eyes on me.

Speaker 1 Tonight, let's take

Speaker 1 our time.

Speaker 1 Baby, it's up, baby, it's us. Oh, nah.

Speaker 1 Either way, instead of win-win.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No need to hesitate.

Speaker 1 No need to worry, we both want the same thing.

Speaker 1 We don't have to complicate enough.

Speaker 1 I get you where now let's get lost at sea. Girl, you got something that I can't replace.

Speaker 1 Started out so now let's pick up the pace.

Speaker 1 Cause tonight

Speaker 1 is mine.

Speaker 1 All I know is you finna make me lose my mind.

Speaker 1 All I know is I'm gonna make you say it's mine.

Speaker 1 Could it be up?

Speaker 1 Could it be us?

Speaker 1 Girl, that's just us riding like a pony. Baby, shut up, don't interrupt

Speaker 1 until it up. Don't lose your focus, keep your eyes on me

Speaker 1 tonight.

Speaker 1 Let's take

Speaker 1 our time.

Speaker 1 Baby, it's up, baby, it's us.

Speaker 1 Either way, it's still a win-win.

Speaker 1 That's brand new music from Jacob Lattimore.

Speaker 1 That record is called Win-Win, W-I-N, not the other one.

Speaker 1 Here you go.

Speaker 1 Friend of the show, Jacob Lattimore. Hopefully he's doing well.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Jacob Lattimore. That record is available in your phone and on DSPs right this second.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Talked about Mozzie's album. Didn't even say the name of the album.
Album is Intrusive Thoughts. So my sleeper is Who Want War? Mozzie and Polo G.

Speaker 1 Told, bro, we so locked in that I won't breathe if you die. Still gripping on my janitor, throwing beads to the sky.
Shit again under my skin if you a thief and you lie.

Speaker 1 Doing 60 in the pants, so that's a reason to cry. Still, dirty sprite pouring off.
Remember, back then at my lowest, they wasn't showing up. So now you even losing focus, I ain't know enough.

Speaker 1 And the trenches piss, we told me we gon' blow a water. Who want war with us? Donkey Row, HGM Pennant, hanging off it.
Yeah, I put him on. He ain't putting on, we take him off it.

Speaker 1 Niggas in the field, worth a couple M's, can play the office, but I'd rather not. Suckers try and get back for them losses.
It's still one up top. Paranoia got me moving caution up in Echelon.

Speaker 1 Separate the crashes from the boss as far as paperwork. J can tell you Mozarella fallless, I ain't said a word.
Got it off the curb, now we balling, they know what's up.

Speaker 1 Tend to leave it there, we can't resolve it. Fuck your dead armies, still denying all involvement.
I don't know what happened. They put that chicken on my head, cause niggas know we acting.

Speaker 1 It's much more than rapping. Told, bro, we so locked in that I won't breathe if you die.
Still gripping on my janit, throwing beads to the sky. Shit again under my skin.

Speaker 1 If you a thief and you lie, doing 60 in the pants, so that's a reason to cry. Still, dirty sprite pouring off.
Remember, back then at my lowest, they was showing showing up.

Speaker 1 So now you even losing focus, I ain't knowin' enough. In the trenches, pistol told me you gon' blow a water.
Who won't war with us? Them shorty spins, they like what them killers gotta do with you.

Speaker 1 30 M's in, still paying for these funerals. Them killers still anxious for revenge, we can't do a truth.
I hope better friends ain't the reason I come through and shoot.

Speaker 1 Slide up, black hoodie like the reaper. Nah, it's time up.
What the fuck we dying for? I seen the hood drying up. In the game, my guys trust enough to get a lives up.

Speaker 1 Like Kobe with this nine clutch, blow smoke till they divide us. Tell ops to come play ball, let's play three on three.
No, I ain't worried bout y'all, it's me versus me.

Speaker 1 When I lost my dog, I couldn't really find the words to speak. Like spinning till they fall, drop out still, tryna earn it.
Bro, we so locked in that I won't breathe if you die.

Speaker 1 Still gripping on my gin and throwing beads to the sky. Shit again under my skin, if you a thief and you lie.
Doing 60 in the pants, so that's a reason to cry. Still, dirty sprite pouring up.

Speaker 1 Remember back then at my lowest, they wasn't showing up. So not even losing focus, I ain't knowin' enough.
And the trenches pistol told me you gon' blow a war. Who want war with us?

Speaker 1 And that record is Who Want War? Excuse me, Who Want War? Mozzie and Polo G off of Mozzie's new album, Intrusive Thoughts, in your phones, on DSPs, wherever you get your music from.

Speaker 1 I'm playing something off this Whiz Kushan OJ. This is my influence with Juicy J.
Play me some 80s, man.

Speaker 1 Nigga, Taylor Gang niggas is different, bruh.

Speaker 1 Gon be on here dick ride niggas and shit

Speaker 1 Pause

Speaker 1 Real bosses manga made it out the hood Making plays in Hollywood Keep on grindin' every day Gotta make sure family good Didn't have it, grew up for these days I be dumb and thorough Trap nigga, pimp, nigga, gangsters That's my influence Rest in peace to pimp, see, I be on that good stuff I got some at home, thick as fuck rolling my woods up No it's real, she took a charge for me.

Speaker 1 That's that hood look.

Speaker 1 Thought I was gon' fall off, you on good drugs. Why would I stop getting this money, lil' bitch, when they keep printing it? You forgot who run this shit, I'm here to jog your memory.

Speaker 1 My diamonds shine so bright, it's like they run off solar energy. I be blowing gas, I just rolled up me a kripa tree.

Speaker 1 Ho, ho, ho, who won't smoke? Bought my own fire. Try to stop me from bringing home the bacon.
You get hog tied. We don't play them games.
Young nigga got that switch, fuck your karate.

Speaker 1 They find your remains. White lady walking her dog, gon' find your body.
Don't wanna take it third. It's a long way to the top, I took the stairs.
My success makes hater sick.

Speaker 1 Damn, my nigga, you don't look too well. Ain't no way to stop this shit, so hating ass nigga gon' say what they want.

Speaker 1 Still spinning cake today from back in the day when a nigga sold tapes out the trunk. Nigga made it out the hood, making plays in Hollywood.
Keep on grinding every day. Gotta make sure family hood.

Speaker 1 Didn't have it, grew up for. These days I be dumb and do.
Trap, nigga, pimp, nigga, gangsters. That's my influence.
Rest in peace, the pimp. See, I be on that good stuff.

Speaker 1 I got some at home, thick as fuck, rollin' my woods up. Know it's real, she took a charge for me.
That's that hood look.

Speaker 1 Thought I was gon' fall off, you on good drugs. Good buzz, OG got me cushed up.
So how you might look up. See me in the clouds, never coming down.
A hook club, just left out the strip club.

Speaker 1 Just rolled the hoes up.

Speaker 1 Good girl, but she want weed and liquor. Riding with the ones I'm always with, I'll never switch up.
Gotta keep at least one down, ass bitch. I call she pick up.

Speaker 1 Gotta stand on business properly, toes I'm on ten up. This year gotta write a Grammy speech in case I win one.

Speaker 1 I could show you how to be a G because I've been one. She know how I like my joints, she rolled me up a big one.
Trap nigga, drug dealer, I'm the GOAT, none real.

Speaker 1 Two weeks, one villa, ON's, young niggas. Sigga, made it out the hood, making friends in Hollywood.
Keep on riding every day, gotta make sure family do it. Didn't have it, grew up for.

Speaker 1 These days I be thumbing through it. Trap nigga, pimp, nigga, gangsters.
That's my influence. Rest and peace, the pimp, see, I be on that good stuff.

Speaker 1 I got some at home, thick as fuck, rolling my woods up. Know it's real, she took a charge for me.
That's that hood look.

Speaker 1 Thought I was gonna fall off, you on good drugs.

Speaker 1 That's Wiz Khalifa, Juicy J, my influence.

Speaker 1 Happy 420 to those who celebrate. Cushing OJ2 out now.

Speaker 1 I'm going to a young lady, her name is Cherie, and the song is Feels and Fears.

Speaker 1 Every now and then

Speaker 1 you creep up and I turn to

Speaker 1 Think about a time way back when

Speaker 1 I'm still bleeding, trying to heal a deep cut

Speaker 1 I feel I need therapy

Speaker 1 Cause I feel you got the best of me

Speaker 1 I'm stuck at the part where I'm supposed to forget But I can't forget

Speaker 1 Here I go all in my fears.

Speaker 1 I wish you knew how it feels.

Speaker 1 You got me holding my fears.

Speaker 1 I feel

Speaker 1 my fears.

Speaker 1 Drowning me out in my tears.

Speaker 1 Needing to feel something real.

Speaker 1 You got me calling my fears.

Speaker 1 I feel

Speaker 1 my fears.

Speaker 1 I hope you know how it feels.

Speaker 1 You bruised me,

Speaker 1 you made me believe nothing could but bless. You fooled me,

Speaker 1 I said I'd never trust again.

Speaker 1 I made my bed,

Speaker 1 no wonder why I'm scared to love again.

Speaker 1 A tight dead heart.

Speaker 1 Can't get some light in the dark.

Speaker 1 Stuck at the part where I'm supposed to forget.

Speaker 1 But I can't forget.

Speaker 1 Here I go, all in my fears.

Speaker 1 I wish you knew how it feels.

Speaker 1 You got me hauling my fears.

Speaker 1 I feel

Speaker 1 my fears.

Speaker 1 Drowning me out in my tears. Needing to feel something real.

Speaker 1 You got me all in my fears.

Speaker 1 I feel

Speaker 1 my fears.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I go all in my fears.

Speaker 1 Oh, you slow my heart.

Speaker 1 You leave me in the night.

Speaker 1 Don't move my lots and shares.

Speaker 1 You got me all in one.

Speaker 1 Nothing's lonelier than phobias, folias. But something that didn't cause so much dysfunction, I could probably love again.

Speaker 1 That I never just again.

Speaker 1 Nothing's lowlier than phobias, folias.

Speaker 1 Nothing caused so much destruction. I could probably love again.

Speaker 1 Here I go all in my fears.

Speaker 1 I wish you knew how it feels.

Speaker 1 You got me haulin' my feelings.

Speaker 1 Where did you wanna me?

Speaker 1 Thought you were the thing. You became another aim, my love.
I'm down in my tears.

Speaker 1 Feed it to feel

Speaker 1 something

Speaker 1 real.

Speaker 1 You got me hauling my feelings.

Speaker 1 I feel

Speaker 1 my feelings.

Speaker 1 I hope you know how it feels.

Speaker 1 That is Cherie, feels, and fears.

Speaker 1 That was dope.

Speaker 1 That was dope.

Speaker 1 Big mail. Yeah.
Mine is called

Speaker 2 ANO A Night Off by LA.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 This might be like new old music.

Speaker 2 I'm sure they love

Speaker 2 it.

Speaker 2 Maybe I should pull up just answer your phone.

Speaker 2 Unlock the door if nobody's home.

Speaker 2 I've been thinking about it all day, you know.

Speaker 2 Let's take it slow, let's take it slow.

Speaker 2 Cause I know what to do with it.

Speaker 2 Tonight there is no limit, there's no

Speaker 2 I can't believe that you're mine.

Speaker 2 So I ain't gonna waste no time on.

Speaker 2 I've been waiting for someone to get you all alone.

Speaker 2 I finally got you right,

Speaker 2 my glory just been

Speaker 2 falling.

Speaker 2 I wanna do one down,

Speaker 2 let your head down.

Speaker 2 I just tonight

Speaker 2 for you

Speaker 2 to keep your head tight.

Speaker 2 with you.

Speaker 2 I know what to do with you.

Speaker 2 I know what to do with it.

Speaker 2 I know what to do with it.

Speaker 2 I know what to do with it.

Speaker 2 That's LA

Speaker 2 ANO, another night off

Speaker 1 featuring Drew's That Dude and Jay Lewis. That was dope.

Speaker 1 Who played that? Enough for it.

Speaker 2 I said, new old.

Speaker 1 Holy fuck, what? What?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 None, man. Forget it.

Speaker 1 Forget it.

Speaker 2 You were huffing and puffing.

Speaker 1 What? Not original. Huh?

Speaker 1 I said, new old music. But it's okay for you.
Okay,

Speaker 2 it's from 2015. I've gone here 2023.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 Me and Ish, you keep playing our songs.

Speaker 1 You played five of mine. Where are you getting your sleepers from?

Speaker 2 You played five. Don't ask me.
I'm not going to tell you.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to tell you where I get my shit from. But there's going to be some overlappage because you play RB, he plays RB.
I play a lot of RB. There's going to be overlappage.

Speaker 1 You already play rap? I'll play rap. I played some rap too.

Speaker 2 But they look at me funny when I play fucking rap. Like, I don't, like, I can't appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Like, you ain't a video Vixen, huh? You started off in rap. Tell him.

Speaker 1 Tell them. Listen, I'm only joking with you, by the way.
I'm just kidding. Like, Mel turnoff for real.
I'm kidding with you.

Speaker 2 You have been going after me all episode.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's fucking fast. You have been coming after me all episodes.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 1 Okay. So sharpen your sword.

Speaker 1 I've been shooting.

Speaker 1 I've been shooting, but you shoot below the belt.

Speaker 2 You shoot right for somebody's dick.

Speaker 1 Okay. So I miss you.
Huh?

Speaker 2 That's what that means? Admission.

Speaker 1 You don't have a dick, Mel.

Speaker 2 Proverbial dick.

Speaker 1 You don't have a proverbial dick. It just went like this.

Speaker 1 You don't have a proverbial dick.

Speaker 1 It's tucked.

Speaker 1 And in Connecticut, a bear was on the loose and all the women ran.

Speaker 1 They go take some. The fuzzy wuzzy.
I'm just telling y'all what happened when I saw a bear on the loose in Connecticut. It was on the news.
Nah, they walked over there. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 They got the fuck out of there. The fuzzy wuzzy.
But I ran the bear shit into the ground, so I will not bring it up anymore. Me with the bear shit and them with the cake, we've done it.
We've done it.

Speaker 1 We have. You cooler than my boy.
They fucked that bear up on Last of Us.

Speaker 1 What are you saying? Why are you fucking the Last of Us new seasons out? Yes. Well, episode one.
Oh. They fucked that bear up.

Speaker 1 Spoiler alert. There's a few shows I gotta watch.
I gotta watch that. I gotta finish the pit.

Speaker 1 Let's go ahead and take the garbage out while we're recording. What's the pit?

Speaker 2 It's a medical drama on

Speaker 1 what the fuck you want.

Speaker 1 I thought you were talking about. He's older, yo.
He just

Speaker 1 whole young shit. Oh, you thought I was talking about the pit at Bob's Furniture.

Speaker 1 I'm in that one. If they do a show about that pit, I'm up in there.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I thought you were talking about a hunting party.

Speaker 1 That's over. Mel, if you know that L.A.
song, you went out there to get cracked.

Speaker 1 Don't nobody even know that song unless they was trying to get cracked. It's okay.
That's not my business.

Speaker 1 It's not my business.

Speaker 2 I don't even see the correlation.

Speaker 1 I just don't know why you won't ever admit. Maybe because we guys and you work with us.
Just admit it. Yo, I was going out there to get my fucking

Speaker 1 rocks off. Yeah, just

Speaker 1 standing in like Tracy. Did I? Tracy Ellis Royal standing.
Yo, this is how I feel, and this is why.

Speaker 2 Parks, did I not just fucking talk about being folded last fucking episode or the episode before?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I remember something about that.

Speaker 2 There we go. Folded in something else.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 2 We were talking about courtside in Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 Yes, Yes, yes, she said that.

Speaker 2 Yes, I was.

Speaker 1 Yes. I think everyone said it, ah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a shock. Shocked because I actually

Speaker 1 admitted. Because don't talk to us like that.
We don't want to. Oh, yeah, you did say that.
Agreed. We don't want to hit that

Speaker 2 exactly. So when I do, you know, I was like, you guys clutch your pearls.

Speaker 1 Like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 I was like, ah, he got tired. He got tired.
It was a running back. It was a running back.

Speaker 2 Don't worry about who the fuck it was.

Speaker 1 Your man.

Speaker 1 Why do you think?

Speaker 2 Oh my God, you guys do not know everything.

Speaker 1 That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 That nigga is a monster. You know that nigga is a monster.
He wasn't playing with me.

Speaker 1 Your man wasn't. 42, 42, 42, huh?

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 1 We're doing that. That's true.

Speaker 2 No, I don't know what you guys are talking about.

Speaker 1 It tracks. You know, that tracks.
That nigga's a monster. Unless you get a little nervous.
We got to watch her nigga. Look,

Speaker 1 it's just those rainy days. It's okay.
It's all right, yo. Come on.
Y'all folded up.

Speaker 2 Y'all don't know everything.

Speaker 1 I'm down with you. Y'all don't know her business.
Anybody doing anything fun this weekend? Anybody getting folded this weekend or folding something? Fold up some doobies.

Speaker 1 She's outside. Folding my woman.
Bro, stop saying doobie. Doobies.
Doobie. 420.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. Folded him up.

Speaker 1 That shit.

Speaker 1 How you fucking nap right now with your leg like that? He lay down. Take it off.

Speaker 1 Are you taking it off? Yeah. But you ain't going to work, right? Oh, you like pain.
It don't hurt as much. She don't really.
squeeze my legs. You're just taking care of you.
It don't hurt no more.

Speaker 1 Mama just taking care of you. You ain't going to work.
No, he ain't put no work in your ish.

Speaker 1 We're a white look.

Speaker 1 Give me a pound, yo.

Speaker 1 Yo, stop pounding like that, like you've been doing stuff. Stop.
Don't do that. I'll fire you up.
I'll fire him up. Get him.

Speaker 1 He let the air route mid conversation and shit. He just be doing whatever he wants.
That shit fucked you up. That's it for you.

Speaker 1 That nigga take his Viagra. Bro, you got the pump?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he let the air route boom in the nigga. Ride his little Medicaid bike in the bedroom.

Speaker 1 I'm ready, baby. It don't matter.
You can walk up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Why do you need air in that? To keep it tight, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Compression, compression.

Speaker 1 You getting better, though? You'll be good soon. I don't care.
I just be trying to sound like that. That's fucked up.
I'd just be trying to sound like I care about you.

Speaker 1 You should care about my mother. Yo, it's getting bad.
I can't know.

Speaker 1 When does the boot come off? It's not nice, bro. Three months.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 You need some workers, calm.

Speaker 1 Let's get us started, please. Don't.
I'm serious.

Speaker 1 How can the network assist in whatever's going on with your body?

Speaker 1 For real.

Speaker 1 Niggas think I'm just being dying. Cover his medical.
I mean,

Speaker 1 shit. What are you saying, Freeze? Come his medical.
I am. I'm going to pay for his water bed.

Speaker 1 He said, cover his medical.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 shit

Speaker 1 is the worst nigga on earth. Nigga, you covered your own shit up.

Speaker 1 What choice you got?

Speaker 1 Wait. So that whole trip to LA wasn't covered under insurance?

Speaker 1 Covered under who insurance? Yours. Yeah, insurance is not going to pay for you a flight to go get a surgery.

Speaker 2 Well, not the flight, but the

Speaker 1 surgery.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you still got to copay and deductibles and all that shit.

Speaker 1 She don't know nothing about that pay shit.

Speaker 2 I know a lot about it.

Speaker 2 They know a lot about it.

Speaker 1 Listen, man, this was fun.

Speaker 1 This was fun. I had a blast.

Speaker 1 I had a blast, man. Yo, this is the best fitness.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about your phone.

Speaker 1 I'm only your business. Easily.
Something.

Speaker 1 Number one.

Speaker 1 It's not bad as I take. This is the best guest verse in the history of guest verses.
I agree. Guest verse, meaning one verse on the song.

Speaker 1 I got you.

Speaker 1 Be some wizard. It's this.

Speaker 1 I'll give y'all a chance to rebut it. I ain't rebutting it.

Speaker 1 I don't rebut y'all New York bias no more. Just let it cook.

Speaker 1 This is what we're doing. I see.

Speaker 1 He's been doing it on Twitter, too. Yeah, I see it.

Speaker 1 It's truth. Oh, it's hard to have certain talks surrounded by New York bias.
It's 1,000% hard to have.

Speaker 1 Why we got New York bias and you don't because you listen to Crucial Conflict and you're not going to be talking about

Speaker 1 Crucial Conflict. We listen to Crucial Conflict and Master P, too.

Speaker 1 nothing to do with crucial conflict even when you go there to try to diminish it that that's part of your new york bias yo i just don't play into it no more oh and i saw your mouth where's where's our new york bias

Speaker 1 give me one of the takes that that i say that's new york bias fam we just had you your new york bias was on display when we did that whole posse cut that's not true Maybe it's maybe our age bias was my anger.

Speaker 1 It's a little bit more prevalent. Anger New York bias.
There's a lot more New York posse cuts than there are other.

Speaker 1 We invented the posse cut, so it's biased to say, it's biased to say

Speaker 1 that. We invented rap.

Speaker 1 Okay, is it possible that something you invented, other motherfuckers could have gotten better at it than you? A thousand percent. Yes.
You don't acknowledge that. That's not true.
It is a fact.

Speaker 1 You do not acknowledge that. I came in.
You always quick to say, nigga, we started here. New York is here.
New York. That's true.

Speaker 1 Niggas done started something is a top 10 posse cut of all time. I'm not arguing with nobody who disagrees with that.
Reservoir Dogs being an all-time posse cut is not a New York bias take.

Speaker 1 Or scenario or fucking The Symphony. Or Buddy.
I'm just saying that those are not. I'm not saying that you won't find another example.
That ain't New York bias is all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Jay-Z being the best rapper in the world is not New York bias. It's not New York bias.
It's not. So if you agree with it, it's not New York bias.
No, I'm not saying that at all.

Speaker 1 There you go there you go no but i just like to do that shit as a new york new yorker new jerseyan and that because he's on that paint me i'm different i'm contrarian

Speaker 1 i disagree with my surroundings

Speaker 1 i would really debate that's his thing it's not his thing it's y'all thing to try to paint me as something just because i disagree with something it's not a painting of anything y'all refuse to accept the fact that hey this nigga might listen to something different he might have just grown up differently than because i live here and i'm from a certain area in a certain time that i gotta subscribe to the same shit it's not a hold up let me finish it's not an attempt to be different though it's not an attempt to be a contrarian that shit really get annoying but i let it slide for the sake of just combo it's not an attempt to dump that i really listen to the other shit that i listen to more than like you was playing a mob shit earlier itch looked at me said you don't know this i'm like no i don't which means you purposely it's not purposely, is my point.

Speaker 1 I didn't go out of my way to not hear it. Preference, yo.
I didn't go out of my way to not hear that. Ice, you got seven million songs in your phone.
I got that in my phone, too.

Speaker 1 All right, so which means if you didn't hear, yo, it's the R-A-Double P E-R-N-O-I, you purposely went out your way not to go listen to the Mob Deep Infamous album.

Speaker 1 That's not true, it's what I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 You don't have to go out. Where was that? Where am I where the Mob Deep Infamous album is played like that?

Speaker 1 Answer that question for me. Joe Budden birthday party.
No,

Speaker 1 Ice was in the house listening to hip-hop.

Speaker 1 So, no, the whole entire Mob Deep album ain't gonna be nowhere being played.

Speaker 1 But neither is Mia X, and neither is Wait, I go, neither is Fiend, and neither is all these other albums that you so frequently listen to.

Speaker 1 You made an attempt to go listen to Mia X. And if you're not gonna be able to get me

Speaker 1 not listening to Mob Deep, and if you listen to me, like I've been trying to explain to you, they didn't play Mia X on the box. I had the virus.
We all played that shit, no, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Man, man let him know i'm letting nah he got a headache and y'all

Speaker 1 it's not even that it's not even that again i told you that sound

Speaker 1 did not resonate with me i liked a bop i like a bounce so when i heard the west coast the down south it had that

Speaker 1 And then it's like, oh shit, let me hear more of that. I'm not going out of my way.
Those records that come out, I hear from certain acts, I don't like it.

Speaker 1 I'm not rushing to go listen to more to see if y'all got some shit in your library that I do like. The shit I hear, okay, I don't like this sound.
That's what I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 But y'all take that as he's trying to be a contrarian. He's trying to be different.
No, I'm not. I am listening to what resonates with me.
I'm listening to what sounds good to me.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, it is not the same thing that sounds good to you. True.
That's it. So why? So that's literally it.
You're right. I'm agreeing with you.

Speaker 1 So why when we say, yo, this is what we like, is it a New York bias as opposed to our personal preference? Because y'all are. Why you don't look at it like our personal preference?

Speaker 1 It's always your personal preference. But the difference is y'all are quick to shit on everything that's outside of this.
Well, not everything.

Speaker 1 Let me fix my words. You always with ish.
I'm not talking to you.

Speaker 1 You're always with him. I hate him.
Yo, I'm talking to. Can we have a 1v1 real quick? A thousand percent.
But it started with a must. I ain't gonna be aware of that.
Well, well, we having one now.

Speaker 1 We're having one now.

Speaker 1 I will have a 1v1 afterwards.

Speaker 1 My point is... The hand of the weaker nigga first.

Speaker 1 He might not be finished for you. He ain't like, he's getting a weak nigga out of the way for it.
Hey, I'm here. Hey.

Speaker 1 super I'm the Super Mario castle nigga.

Speaker 1 It's biased when it's our customer.

Speaker 1 It's not biased when it's your preference. It's biased when y'all dismiss someone's thing or thinking differently.

Speaker 1 I don't dismiss the Bobby shit. I don't dismiss that.
No, but

Speaker 1 I didn't listen to it. In that posse cut conversation, we didn't dismiss no West Coast shit.
We actually brought up West Coast shit and said it should have been brought in there.

Speaker 1 I brought up Stay Fly.

Speaker 1 We brought up other shit from

Speaker 1 other places and said it should have been in there. And once I brought up some songs all right

Speaker 1 but I think that's part of Ice positioning himself to be different is painting our position to be a certain way no y'all

Speaker 1 say that I don't think nobody has a beef with you being different like you keep painting it out to be I

Speaker 1 think people only highlight that the fact that you point out

Speaker 1 how different you are and what those differences are. No, but I don't know.
And

Speaker 1 I'm speaking all of the shit that I listen to.

Speaker 1 I don't go out my way to say, oh, I don't listen to what y'all like. I like this.
When it comes to me, I say, yo, well, this is what I like. And the second I do it is, yo, but you from here.

Speaker 1 How do you not like this? I'm telling you how. Because that shit ain't sound good to me.

Speaker 1 That's it. I can see that.

Speaker 1 You know what it is? You know what I mean? But they can't see it. I guess as a person who is so...

Speaker 1 Who knows music and people look to for music and your music takes, sometimes when you take a certain stance, it comes off away. But my thing is, even that Afrobeat shit, it comes off away either way.

Speaker 1 We don't fuck with your stance, nigga. I don't want you to fuck with a stance.
We all know that.

Speaker 1 We trying to freeze. Hey, we tired.
We tired. We ain't cutting cotton niggas.

Speaker 1 We don't fuck with your stance. Don't fuck with your stick.
We don't take your stance on it.

Speaker 1 Not enough sugar and baby in there. Ain't no sugar.

Speaker 1 My stance don't require me to stand.

Speaker 1 Don't listen to it. It's my stance.

Speaker 1 And I'm comfortable with it. I look to you for music, nigga.

Speaker 1 But that's your mistake. And I say that all the time.
Not a mistake. Not trying to be funny.
I'm not afraid of good at music, nigga. No, but look, not trying to be funny.
Stop remembering shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, my nigga. I'm not.
People be like, yo, you're the music historian. You're this, you're that.
Y'all putting these titles on me. I'm constantly telling y'all I'm a fan of this shit.

Speaker 1 I like what I like, and I don't like what I don't like.

Speaker 2 You do have like an encyclopedia kind of memory, though, when it comes to music.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 What the fuck is wrong with you talking about my population? That's how I act. It's true.
That's true. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 You're going to fuck me up. No, I'm not, man.
I don't feel good.

Speaker 1 I could see how you got it. Y'all got me today.

Speaker 2 I could see how you could not listen to an album on purpose because you have no interest in the artist. And then it would, like, then you would not know, be aware of it.

Speaker 1 Nigga, we call out shit to the office. 1997.
I don't even do that. Back in Queensland.
These artists that I am not a fan of, like, y'all know, I came in here at your crib and said what I said.

Speaker 1 I didn't fuck with that Griselda sound at all. And they killed me for that.
How you put me how you like hip-hop and don't fuck with Griseldo. It's very easy.

Speaker 1 But at the same time, when something comes out out that's dope, that I think is dope, whether it be from them or not, I'm like, oh shit, West Side Guns.

Speaker 1 Hitler wears Her Madis 8. The second one was that was a fire joint to me.
Or Pray for Paris was fire to me. Like, I don't, I don't do that just because it's the artist.
I'm not going to listen.

Speaker 1 If some shit is dope and it makes its way to me, I listen to it.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not doing what y'all say, bro.

Speaker 1 I'm not.

Speaker 1 Just allow people to like they shit. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 What do you say now?

Speaker 2 I said, you didn't like Mob Deep?

Speaker 1 Oh, it's not that I didn't like Mob Deep. I just don't like the sound.
I like the commercial singles that I've heard from Mob Deep. When they play Infamous, I know three songs off Infamous.

Speaker 1 When I say that, that's blasphemy to people. I never said infamous was bad.
He go and say, yo, you hate Mob Deep, though. No, I never said that.
Is that what I said? Yes.

Speaker 1 You bring up, oh, you hate infamous. That's what you brought up.
You hate infamous. I don't know infamous.
And I, I got

Speaker 1 no infamous.

Speaker 1 So for us to say, hold on, wait, wait. So for us to say this the best verse and feature verse to us in hip-hop history, you said to us.
He didn't say us.

Speaker 1 I said it to me, and this Joe said to him, We talk about our own personal opinion.

Speaker 1 That's what it is, nigga. And I said it is too.

Speaker 1 You said, and your response was, you ain't say, yo, that's your preference. You said, yo, that's y'all New York bottom.
It's better than Cleveland shit, nigga. Stop, man.
And Detroit, nigga.

Speaker 1 This better than shit. Good.
Yeah. Now what you gonna do? I ain't gotta do nothing because I would never hear that verse.
It's my

Speaker 1 iTunes ever. That's right.
The fuck you talking about.

Speaker 1 I'm not running to play this.

Speaker 1 No, I promise you.

Speaker 1 I promise you I'm not. You can't force that on him, nigga.
You can't force that shit on me, bro. Yes, you are, nigga.
I promise you, I'm not. I bet you I'll put this in your surprise.

Speaker 1 I got it. I didn't play it.
No. When your birthday party? Who DJing? Rockon? Oh, we in there, ain't nothing.

Speaker 1 We in there that, nigga. You know who DJing my birthday partner.

Speaker 1 What the fuck you talking about, nigga? We don't wear it at all. Rock on ain't gonna have all that motherfucking fortune dough.
Rock on could play.

Speaker 1 Rock on could play whatever, because I'm gonna be lit at my birthday party. I don't care.

Speaker 1 Ice in the pod. I'm gonna just play some ice shit.

Speaker 1 This is my shit. I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker 1 This is my shit right here, though. Freeze.
This is my shit. What you want me to do?

Speaker 1 You know the words, right? Every word.

Speaker 1 Sitting on the quarter PA. Hey, things are feeling good.
Somebody take us out of here. Take us home.
Take us home. Sipping on some crap.
Hello? Anybody? I'm rapping.

Speaker 2 Here's the poll.

Speaker 1 The battery is.

Speaker 2 The stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab yourself a Tylenol.
You may need it.

Speaker 1 There we go. All right.

Speaker 1 Life is a slot of chocolate.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 and remember, pay for what you need.

Speaker 1 And everything that's free ain't for free.

Speaker 1 And a thing,

Speaker 2 yeah, and a single second and a thousand years is the same measurement of time in the grand scheme of things.

Speaker 1 And shout out to the interns. We love you.

Speaker 1 Duck the fuck off.

Speaker 1 You really got interns over here? You need a ride. No.

Speaker 1 We're going to an intern dinner tomorrow. They're being assholes.

Speaker 1 No, who's on your team now?

Speaker 1 No, for real. They all got an intern dinner.
No, who's on your team now? Who's cantering?

Speaker 1 You paying niggas that salmon?

Speaker 1 The intern dinner she's throwing is free.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look for you.

Speaker 1 You got the location free? Hey, I got these free tickets, guys. You want to come to a Skylock? You put hot bother on your resume.
It's a resume builder.

Speaker 1 She gets all that free shit on, boy. Hey, you're looking crazy.
You want to write me a portfolio? Well, come to

Speaker 1 me at the basketball game.

Speaker 1 Hey, Mel, did you pay for this?

Speaker 1 You want to come to Disney on ice? Nah, have a sky dog spring.

Speaker 1 Ice is not her internet. I can make you be freeze.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. You want to be ice? Oh, man.

Speaker 1 That shit you get off is legendary, son.

Speaker 1 The niggas love you. You guys are terrible.
Them niggas jump out the window for Mel. Hey, that's Pete.
Pete? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look at Freeze. You know all the shit.

Speaker 1 Look.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 We're doing it for the freeziers right now.

Speaker 1 New York buyers up in this motherfucker. Fuck is he talking about

Speaker 1 the motherfucking taking? We have the big things. We have the big bangs.
Turn more hundreds for the road just in confidence.

Speaker 1 All right, man. Keep us in your prayers.

Speaker 1 Took my energy down even doing it. Hold up, man.

Speaker 1 All right. Huh? All right, man.
Yo, here. Yo.

Speaker 1 Put your ice ahead into this shit.

Speaker 1 Hey, say something else, nigga. Say something else.

Speaker 1 Say something else.

Speaker 1 We'll get up and wail on you, nigga.

Speaker 1 Yo, keep us in your bread. Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time. Yada, yada, yada.
It's been 10 years. If you don't know the outro by now,

Speaker 1 nothing I can do to help you, man. We're going to have a good time.
80 degrees in New York City tomorrow. We're going to have a good time.
Hey,

Speaker 1 we're pulling cars out the bar.

Speaker 1 Yo, make the lies.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, y'all enjoyed this shit as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you.

Speaker 1 And we'll get back, man.

Speaker 1 What you want this weekend? We outside, we outside.

Speaker 1 Mail, what you want this weekend, man?

Speaker 1 Let's go, man.

Speaker 2 I'm gonna go to the spa.

Speaker 1 You pay for it? There you go, big man.

Speaker 1 My business.

Speaker 1 I saw that.

Speaker 1 You lick the nigga so nosy.

Speaker 1 You didn't pay for that shit.

Speaker 1 She said, send me your 20 card. Let me put it in.
Just punch some shit.

Speaker 1 Get the big

Speaker 1 shit. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Melan's a legend.

Speaker 1 Be careful, man.

Speaker 1 If you love the market,

Speaker 1 niggas unstarters,

Speaker 1 upstarters, some starters.

Speaker 1 You've never

Speaker 1 you've never heard of Joe Buddy JBP, JBP, JBP. Why would you be without