Episode 815 | "Al B. Ehhhh"

3h 38m

The JBP kicks off the latest episode discussing the cost of nanny’s (7:50) as well as eating habits (11:50) before turning to Marc Lamont Hill who shares his experience at a recent event for Muslim celebrities (35:00). Dreamville Festival took place in Raleigh, NC over the weekend as the city has reached an agreement to bring it back for at least four more years (48:05), Billboard releases their top-25 female rappers of all-time list which brings some disagreements from the cast over the placements and names on it (55:26), and the guys have settled their debate of who can bench press 225 pounds (1:12:52). Joe has some smoke for Marc over Nikola Jokić (1:20:53), a trio of new Drake songs hit the internet (1:27:55), and the JBP reacts to the NCAA Tournament games in which Houston & UConn took home titles (2:00:53). Also, Hakeem Olajuwon was denied access to the floor after Houston’s win (2:07:50), nationwide protests over Trump’s tariffs (2:24:33), Stephen A. Smith is considering a run for presidency (2:51:46), Part of the Show (2:59:54), and more! 

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Ish | THEHONESTGUY (feat. Zenesoul) - “CHANTE’S GROOVE”

Melyssa | Kevin Ross - “Spin”

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Marc | Jon B. (feat. Alex Isley) - “Show Me”

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Speaker 1 The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 1 I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real.
No one is exposing, revealing, indicting,

Speaker 1 or telling you anything about themselves.

Speaker 1 Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.

Speaker 1 We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.

Speaker 1 Enjoy the show. I don't want no beef, though.
It's not a a beef. Why would it be beef two black brothers that have been friends for so long getting millions?

Speaker 1 Whoever.

Speaker 1 Why would that be a beef? That's a success story, nigga.

Speaker 1 That's a fucking. She on Mark?

Speaker 1 You on Ice?

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's better than two millionaires? Whoa, don't.
Oh, shit. What's better than three?

Speaker 1 I know Mark don't like that saying, but. Millionaires and five widths.
Okay. All right.

Speaker 1 Just a millionaire.

Speaker 1 Just put that P up there. It's the shit I I don't got that I'm worried about.
That's what the hate stuff. Wait a wee on.
Yes. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 We got these. You don't like billionaires?

Speaker 1 No, Mark said someone departed. Oh, so yeah, you wasn't here.
You said they shouldn't exist. I don't think billionaires should exist.
You said that a few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yo, Mark be fucking lying.

Speaker 1 Mark be lying. He just couldn't.
Would you be all right with it if you were a billionaire? I wouldn't be a billionaire. I'm just saying.
I'd give it away. I'm saying, I wouldn't literally not.

Speaker 1 Oh, you wouldn't allow yourself to become a billionaire? No.

Speaker 1 So why you don't give your millions away?

Speaker 1 I don't have enough money to give away. Wait, what?

Speaker 1 I don't have enough money to give away. If I had enough money, I mean, I give away money, but I'm saying I don't have enough money to give away like half my income or half my resources.

Speaker 1 But if I, like, for example, if I had, oh, we got him. If I had $200 million or $100 million, yeah, I'd give it away.
Absolutely. I'd give away half of it.
Absolutely. So scale it down then.

Speaker 1 Whatever you got, give away a smaller portion of that. I do.
Mark, you got the newest.

Speaker 1 I do. You got the newest Porsche.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 And you live in a new ass.

Speaker 1 There are newest PhDs.

Speaker 1 The one time this nigga come out the front. I can't lie.
Yo,

Speaker 1 this kind of got a temp in it. Yo, can I tell y'all, I thought about that.

Speaker 1 I thought about that recently. The one time this nigga.
Like, I came out a different way. I don't even remember how that happened, but I was in the front with

Speaker 1 y'all. It felt like such community.

Speaker 1 Like, coming down with y'all, everybody getting in their cars and, you know, dapping. Hey, man.

Speaker 1 Like, lady, yo. Like, real co-workers.

Speaker 1 Like, real co-workers. Yo, you killed it today, girl.

Speaker 1 Yo, that shit was a vibe. Y'all be vibing without me in the front.
Yep. So Mark was in his car and said, oh, shit, look at that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mr. Professor Man.
And you get off of the floor before us and go.

Speaker 1 Go to your little section. Yeah, your little fancy parking spot.
Yeah, but it's a lonely route.

Speaker 1 It's a lonely route. It's optional.
That's the weird part about this bracket I'm in.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 2 What? Lonely at the top.

Speaker 1 I agree with it. I ain't at the top.
That's why it's weird. Niggas at the top is hanging out with each other.
Them niggas is in Mika Nose. Them niggas is having fucking, they traveling.

Speaker 1 They on Magic Johnson boat. I'm at the bracket where I got to still work to do that

Speaker 1 and I'm alone.

Speaker 1 No, so hang with niggas in your friend group. You niggas is broke.

Speaker 1 Those niggas in your friend group. You niggas is

Speaker 1 niggas in your broken You wouldn't buy the bitch fucking calamari

Speaker 1 I'm not hanging out with you outside. You still on that? Yeah.
I'm still on that. Yes, I'm still on that.
You right. I wasn't here for that.
Who you ain't buying somebody calamari? Come on, no.

Speaker 1 Joe isn't. Come on.
Joe is nothing. Ish ish lacks social cues.

Speaker 1 Ish was a little bit went outside and don't know how to be outside and ended up in a jam where the consequence was buying somebody a young lady calamari and he wouldn't do it and he was mad about it and he came and told the story in the pod.

Speaker 1 It was a great story, so I don't want to.

Speaker 1 It was a great story.

Speaker 1 He killed that pod. He did buy the calamari.
He bought the calamari. Don't say nothing.
But he didn't want to buy the calamari. Damn, his man didn't want to give him money towards the calamari.

Speaker 1 He didn't want to pay for the calamari. I don't give a fuck what he did.
Sometimes you don't want to pay for something. You still got to pay for it.
Yeah, he wasn't smashing, nigga.

Speaker 1 Oh, you niggas is bitches. Damn.

Speaker 1 This was a lick. The chicks saw them coming.

Speaker 1 Take that shit up the street, nigga.

Speaker 1 We on his ass. Who are you you talking about? We on his ass.
Who are you talking about?

Speaker 1 We on your mad ass, nigga. I'm on your ass, nigga.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm on you today.

Speaker 1 Today, your day.

Speaker 1 I like what you coming with. No, it is his day.
Today's the day for me and him. I can tell.
Oh, I can tell.

Speaker 1 And the second you try to jump in, you get knocked out first. I'm telling you.
Because you're going to try to jump in our shit. And this beef don't have nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 It's going to be like hitting Steel.

Speaker 1 He already hurt your hand twice. Steal from Juice, who died first.
Nah, nah. I killed the shit out of Steele, nigga.

Speaker 1 Brian died first, you dumb.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. When Steele died, I forgot.
He still died. He died.
He just got shot.

Speaker 2 Oh, he just got shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He goes mail.
He was mailing up.

Speaker 1 Even Mal no. Even Mal no Juice.

Speaker 1 Fucked up. Fuck it.

Speaker 1 Steele should have died.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Steele definitely should have died.

Speaker 1 Anyway, we got a good time today. I can tell.
Yep. We are.
I can tell. We're going to have fun.
It's going to be one of them days.

Speaker 1 What's up? Chilling, man. Good day, sir.
Good to see you. Good to see you.
Good to see everybody.

Speaker 1 Good to see everybody. Couldn't wait to get here today for some strange reason, man.
Why? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Felt good. Bills got to be paid, nigga.
Bill's good.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm here, nigga.

Speaker 1 That's why he ain't got the rest.

Speaker 1 That's why.

Speaker 1 Looks at me.

Speaker 1 Don't worry. He gonna see.
He said, damn shit what happened with the flip.

Speaker 1 What happened? She bad?

Speaker 1 No. I don't want to talk about that.
I think that I'm here under. Duress? Duress.
Yeah, the rest. I don't feel good.
You don't sound good, bro.

Speaker 1 I'm going to perform. I'm here to perform, man.
You do sound under the weather now that I think about it. You sound like Nasley.
Me too. Yeah, yeah.
Huh? Me too.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Me and you got a whole different 1v1 coming probably right after this.
In the same ballpark, though.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You in your bag. You good, bro? I'm great.

Speaker 1 I'm in a great mood. I told you I couldn't wait to get here with y'all.
Okay. You in a good bag today.
We're happy. Really?

Speaker 1 We'd like to see this. We like to see this side of you.
Because

Speaker 1 I had a little wine with my man on the side because I missed him. It was one of my favorite niggas-ish.
That's what you call it, a 100? He one of my favorite niggas. So I missed him the last part.

Speaker 1 So you vibed. You chopped it off.
So when he came in, I was like, yo, man. He said some bullshit.
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 What did he say? I didn't take some bullshit. I said, yo, man.

Speaker 1 What's up with you? What you was at last part? I missed you. Something like that.
Right?

Speaker 1 Right? To which you said. It was a family member.
You can tell him this part. Joe said, yo, what's up? I said, nothing.
What's up? He's like, where was you at? I said, Virginia. He's like, huh?

Speaker 1 You wasn't. I was like, oh, this weekend I was in Virginia.
He said, no, Friday. I said, oh, my baby was sick.
So I started telling him what happened with the baby and all that.

Speaker 1 He said, yo, because you've known me so long, you already know where my brain is. And I said, fam, don't nobody want to hear that bullshit.

Speaker 1 I said, so I want to say something really

Speaker 1 showish. Really ignorant

Speaker 1 that lacks total decorum. About a nigga baby.
Something selfish, something that's totally inappropriate right now. And you my friend.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to say it to you.

Speaker 1 So you're still going to say the inappropriate shit. This nigga said, this is why you got to start talking about that nanny talk.

Speaker 1 And I said, I said, ish, kids get second.

Speaker 1 You need a nanny. Hey, kids get second.

Speaker 1 I can't afford no fucking nanny. I said, you got.
How much is a nanny? Coach? You can afford a nanny. And that's, and that's how much is a nanny.
Thank you. Nanny's sick.
Depends what nanny. Nanny's.

Speaker 1 Depends what? Nigga, my daughter got sick at, I mean, my daughter fever was high at one o'clock in the morning. So that means I can afford a living nanny.

Speaker 1 What you get is an au pair. Yeah, that's a paper.
An au pair, and I cannot afford an au pair.

Speaker 1 You can't afford it. Yeah, you got a pair of air.
But the slow ones, what's a pair? Au pair is

Speaker 1 a nanny to the next level.

Speaker 1 But they cook, they clean, they do other things. They teach your kid languages.
that just doubt fighters.

Speaker 1 That's who we mean when we say nanny, by the way. Aren't opaque

Speaker 2 in another country?

Speaker 1 Sometimes. Sometimes they don't have to be, but they often are.

Speaker 1 South French. They teach your kids different languages.
No, no, no. I'm saying.
You're right. Marcus, you're probably got O-Pad.
Yeah. Do I got OPA?

Speaker 2 Dominican or Slavic.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Slavic.

Speaker 1 She's here with Dominican in the Slavic sister. This nigga.
No, not at all.

Speaker 1 She'll be O-Paz. She'll be paired up with him.

Speaker 1 Bull-ass.

Speaker 1 Bullet with my O-Paz.

Speaker 1 See, that's what I think it is before he tries to con the audience with I can't afford it.

Speaker 1 He ain't allowed to have one. That's not true.
He ain't allowed to have one. Nah, nah.
If you can have a nanny, you could have a 70-year-old nanny. You don't have to have.
So, why you don't have one?

Speaker 1 Because I can't afford it. I answered you already.
I think you can. We think you can.
All right. But what's something like that go for, Mark? You can afford it.
Y'all still ain't talking about it.

Speaker 1 What's a nanny? Say a month. It depends.
Some of them niggas be $7,000, $8,000 a month. You want them to stop.
It's stopping. Nah, stop it.

Speaker 1 Stop it. That's a lie.
Yes. No, that's not a lie.
Some of them do.

Speaker 1 That's not what we talk about. What number are y'all talking about? You're talking about half that in North Jersey, I think.
Four grand. Four or five grand a month.
Well, LaMel know about it.

Speaker 1 But think about this. You was OHARE?

Speaker 1 O-HARE.

Speaker 1 You.

Speaker 1 The thing is, if you get an O-pair, you also don't have to think about daycare. You don't have to pay for somebody to clean the house.
You have to pay for somebody to cook food for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's taken out. It takes away

Speaker 1 all those other jobs.

Speaker 1 And they live in your house. No, that's a good thing.
My house is not big enough for the O-Pair. But that's not necessarily true.
You got a basement. Hold on now.
Hold on now. You got a basement, boy.

Speaker 1 Hold on now. You got a whole basement, boy.

Speaker 1 Make a little nanny's, a little au pair suite. Nanny quarters.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, look, I can't get the money. I know you can afford it, but it's not.
Did you think about it, though? Did you think about it? No, not at all.

Speaker 1 Because you have your girl's mom, she helps out, right? I mean, my girl's family helps out.

Speaker 1 I can't afford an au pair.

Speaker 1 That's all I'm saying. Respect.
All right. I mean, niggas up, nigga.
You drew a hard line, nigga.

Speaker 1 I move on. I'm moving on.
I'm not even saying that. I just can't.
Like, this shit ain't cheap. Don't let Joe gas you.

Speaker 1 If you say that again. Don't let Joe gash you.
Oh, shit. Damn.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 I'm going to store this under things that we allow you to say because

Speaker 1 Buck, keep going.

Speaker 1 I just got to allow you to stop.

Speaker 1 That's your cook tonight,

Speaker 1 I just got to allow you to

Speaker 1 my man. That's your cook tonight, isn't it? Yeah, you gotta let it go.
Dog, because I'm gonna go. You can't talk.
That's not true. I can say whatever I want to say.
So he said, no.

Speaker 1 Yo, where's somebody?

Speaker 1 Where's somebody? That's what I'm saying. So I let him.
This is my, I love him. So,

Speaker 1 nigga,

Speaker 1 we don't love you, nigga. No, this performative shit gotta stop at some point when it happened.
Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't want him to get a spanking.

Speaker 1 Watch your mouth.

Speaker 1 What I'm telling you is, what you think and what is actual and factual could be totally different things. I think you make enough to get the other nanny.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, okay.
And Mark does too.

Speaker 1 And Ice. Ice those two.

Speaker 1 Ice does too. Mel, you think he makes enough to get a nanny?

Speaker 2 I mean, I think if he, like, you know, kind of shifted stuff around, you know, oftentimes, like,

Speaker 1 damn, Elf.

Speaker 1 She said, if he stops eating, oh, shut up, I would say, Mel, you know what I mean? How bad do you want here? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, you gotta buy gas. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Mel, you better stop playing with my boy.

Speaker 2 Or your candy addiction.

Speaker 1 You know, who knows how much that is.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 But,

Speaker 1 dog. That's expensive, too.

Speaker 1 That's what?

Speaker 1 Yo, something wrong with you. No, I ain't even trying to be funny.
What? Nigga, I'm having a fucking, oh, y'all don't know. Y'all don't know nothing about my personal life.
I'm having a fucking

Speaker 1 calorie and carb fight. So at 10 p.m., the motherfucking intamens and milk trips to the fridge.
Counterproductive. Fuck how it costs.
It's counterproductive. Oh, what it does to your body.

Speaker 1 Should have killed you. And in the proportion, when you eat more than one.
One don't do nothing. No, you got to eat a couple of stuff.
One is a warm-up. Yeah.
Man, I'm stuffing my face together.

Speaker 1 Last night. Yo,

Speaker 1 all that work you did was for nothing. I know.

Speaker 1 10 o'clock took a whole sleeve of Oreos. Oh, all right.
Yo, 10 o'clock. Which is when the snacks taste good.

Speaker 1 That's when it tastes the goodest. That attitude is the goodest.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna lie. Mark, you look good, but I'm having a struggle with my body,

Speaker 1 my journey.

Speaker 1 The food is the thing. You have to switch from sweet to savory.
That goes a long way. So still get the snacks.
Just don't get sweet snacks, get savory snacks.

Speaker 1 You know, the funny shit, I'm not even really a sweet guy like that. But when my girl come, we do the Hog and Dodge Blizzard shit.
Oh, you're not. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 And she leaves, and I'm stuck in. That's one thing I do like about the Invisalign is snacks are pretty much done.
It's too much work. Yeah, I'm not doing no barbecues lately.

Speaker 1 No, I'm still going to eat some barbecue, but snacks, it's over. I'm talking about typically on break time.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, no, it's over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, it ain't been either.
It's not worth it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's counterproductive.

Speaker 1 How are you not going to eat snacks? I know, it's not a pleasant experience.

Speaker 1 I'm going to keep it on a box with you. All the shit that is dope to eat is the shit you next for.
Sugar, salt,

Speaker 1 sweets, dairy, cheese,

Speaker 1 potatoes, the noodles, what's the pastas, whiskey, right? Whiskey, brandy, bread, red, snack.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, anything fried.

Speaker 1 A little heroin.

Speaker 1 So I'll call myself, I'm starving myself the whole day doing mad good. 10 o'clock,

Speaker 1 I go get some chips.

Speaker 1 I don't know that because I'm ignorant, and ignorance is bliss. I grab the chips.
Here come my girl. Oh, my God.
Look at you, all that fried food. I'm like, wait, what? That's how they make this?

Speaker 1 Unless you get the baked chips. They fried chips.
It's just nasty, though. All the music.
Who knows that?

Speaker 1 Everybody. Oh, come on, It took a long time to learn that.
You got to do, you got to switch to baked foods, get skinny pop popcorn. Yep.

Speaker 1 Drink hint water, which is

Speaker 1 a hint of flavor in it, but there's no sugar in it.

Speaker 2 Or those liquid IVs.

Speaker 1 Yep. Yep.
All that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 Because you can't. None of that shit tastes good, though.
That's the morning.

Speaker 1 Yo, when you living healthy, I'm learning. It ain't even about tasting.
It's not about tasting them. I thought you're going to be afraid of it.

Speaker 1 That's the trade-off. But in these good days, it's over.
You'd eventually start to like the taste of healthy shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're eating for fuel.

Speaker 1 You just got to retrain your

Speaker 1 senses.

Speaker 1 Have you really implement a cheat day, you look forward to the cheat day when you can get busy. Like weekends, I get busy.

Speaker 1 Like, if you, if you do, on like a Sunday, you could just pancakes, French toast, all that shit on Sunday. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So, doing all this shit in your 40s, I know, I guess that's when you're supposed to do it, but it just makes you feel like a dick for not doing it. Early, early, exactly.

Speaker 1 In your 20s or your 30s, just earlier. Do you have a chef? Not currently, no.
Not currently. You got to get back on that.
Yeah. You can afford a chef, right? So get a bus.

Speaker 1 Every time I get a chef, them niggas get lit and move.

Speaker 1 You know how many chefs get lit and move? The second them niggas post Joe Budden, steak, steak and potatoes, here come Kyrie.

Speaker 1 Snatching away. Yeah, here come fucking a restaurant in Houston.
Hey, come. Yeah, no, it's fucked up.
What'd that mean? I got a service for you that'll be good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, a meal prep service. Like a meal prep service.

Speaker 1 Hold up, y'all. Let me get this one because he's asking for it.
No, I was just saying, what that means.

Speaker 1 What does what mean, Antoine? What does what mean? When they leave you.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? If Kyrie could get your chef, what that mean?

Speaker 1 He not paying them niggas. I was just asking.
He's not paying them niggas. He was saying Jersey.
You know what I'm saying? That's right. I wasn't paying them what Kyrie was paying.

Speaker 1 Well, pay, nigga. Pay him.

Speaker 1 But don't try to make me out to be ish picking up the niggas from Old Depot. I know.
I pay now. I'm just saying.
I pay now. And you think I can achieve it.
You picked the Old Depot chef? I don't.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Don't play. Yo, I said you think I can afford an O pair.
You should be able to afford an O chef. They get the Instagram chef.
No, nigga, Nigga, you can afford an old pair. You can afford an O chef.

Speaker 1 Pay your chef. Well, today I can't.
Pay him. Today I can't.

Speaker 1 Stupid nigga, man.

Speaker 1 Today I can. Last time he fought the chef on Instagram.
They had some bullshit here, nigga. Some niggas.
Nah, nah, nah. That nigga had some good chefs.
No, no, no. You're talking about

Speaker 1 the young boy. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh.

Speaker 1 I can afford it if you stop calling out every time you're fucking kicked.

Speaker 1 What's your

Speaker 1 first of all? No. I've called out one time for my kid being sick, and keep going.

Speaker 1 And And that don't stop your breath. Your money is up.

Speaker 1 Your money is monthly.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your money is monthly. It ain't daily.
Groove tonight. You know he got it because he's about to start playing music.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know that we got it.

Speaker 1 Groove tonight.

Speaker 1 We're on a factor.

Speaker 1 This nigga's still right. You get money, nigga.

Speaker 1 The people, people that go to work get money monthly.

Speaker 1 Yes, people that work as much as I work get paid monthly. It's not a surprise.
I'm not an outlier. You are an outlier.
How? Well, I am an outlier. Okay.
Not in this conversation. You a liar.

Speaker 1 Not in an outlier. Not in the conversation.

Speaker 1 He's going crazy on you today. No, I'm telling you, it's up.
Me and him's got something going on. Let's get that nigga, son.
It's up for me and him. He's because you're a liar and an outlier.

Speaker 1 Today is the day. That was crazy.
Today is the day.

Speaker 1 And there's no beef for that. You got to be lying.
At all. We know.

Speaker 1 Mel, man. Mel's doing the fake ass, man.
I'll be lying. I'm chilling.
I'm down with you. I'm chilling.
I'm chilling.

Speaker 1 I'm on the main.

Speaker 1 Right now, I'm playing the music. I'm singing a song.

Speaker 1 Look at the nigga to come up with something. He's good.
No, no, I'm starting the music.

Speaker 1 This is a three-hour broadcast. Look at you, dick-fried.

Speaker 1 Every time I'm on with him, you start dick riding.

Speaker 1 You sit to the side.

Speaker 1 You're not the judge. You're going to use all that.
You don't inappropriate language, nigga. That's getting me emotional, nigga.
You can use all that inappropriate language, nigga. I'm a what?

Speaker 1 I do what? Are you cool? Are you putting some type of stigmatism on me? What about? What do I do? Huh? This nigga's gonna stigmatism.

Speaker 1 Whatever it is. How did you say?

Speaker 1 Astigmatism in your eye.

Speaker 1 Whatever. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Stigmatism. Stigmatism.
You ain't no close. We got you, though, Flip.

Speaker 1 Thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 He put no stigmatism on me.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm feeling good.

Speaker 1 Get my motherfucking soft rock bag right quick now.

Speaker 1 Shout out to wherever you might be listening from all over the world. Shout out to the first and last time listeners.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the haylisteners out there, the entrepreneurs, the nine-to-fivers.

Speaker 1 The athletes out there, the executives out there. Fuck is going on out there.

Speaker 1 Y'all mean 20 and up, 30 and up,

Speaker 1 40 and up, 50 and up. Let me hear you out there.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm wrong. Let me know that you have like that film growing up.
Tell me if I'm coming on too strong.

Speaker 1 This heart of mine has been hurt before.

Speaker 1 Here we go. You and the girl, let me in you.

Speaker 1 I've been waiting.

Speaker 1 For a girl like me. Waiting for you.

Speaker 1 You would hit the background. Gotta hit the background.

Speaker 1 Gotta hit the background on it.

Speaker 1 Now the phone set up waiting for you. Waiting for you.

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 Big Jersey, big jersey.

Speaker 1 Whole New York City, what up out there?

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 This goes out for a special girl.

Speaker 1 The one that I lost. I mean, it's for when niggas was leaving the voicemails.
This is back when we was leaving messages on the phone.

Speaker 1 When we was making cassette.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Y'all old enough to know. Look at y'all.
Or for ghost face to just someone on the top.

Speaker 1 Just like a dream to me

Speaker 1 that somehow came true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, for the lovers out there and shit. I know tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Niggas out there still texting their exes and shit.

Speaker 1 No, come get these fucking clothes out this closet, girl.

Speaker 1 Come get these boots for I toss these shits out the window.

Speaker 1 Love it, yeah.

Speaker 1 Every

Speaker 1 day,

Speaker 1 love me your own special way.

Speaker 1 Held all my heart

Speaker 1 away

Speaker 1 with smile

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 time to tell me

Speaker 1 Let me leave you out there

Speaker 1 You and your girl turn it up out there

Speaker 1 Let's get the hot notes

Speaker 1 together

Speaker 1 Always forever

Speaker 1 I'll always

Speaker 1 love you

Speaker 1 forever

Speaker 1 More songs than 6-8.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 Have never

Speaker 1 been

Speaker 1 so love.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, Mike Shack, one, two, one, two. Mike Shack, 1212

Speaker 1 So glad y'all could join us on this beautiful beautiful occasion

Speaker 1 So happy to be here man, y'all could have been anywhere in the world, but you here with us

Speaker 1 Alright, we got an amazing broadcast lined up for y'all today

Speaker 1 So happy y'all could be here man, oh man

Speaker 1 So blessed, so blessed

Speaker 1 So glorious, all praise due to God, all praise due to God.

Speaker 1 So right.

Speaker 1 Free to wave.

Speaker 1 Let me hear you out there.

Speaker 1 Ego.

Speaker 1 I can't cut it, I can't cut it.

Speaker 1 We're jamming out there.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the whole Philadelphia Baltimore. But you didn't get a whole DMV.

Speaker 1 The Camerillon is everybody in Florida. Hey, go.

Speaker 1 Welcome.

Speaker 1 All right, y'all.

Speaker 1 I'm ready to pause, but may I cut off at the next hook? So bog. I'm ready to pause, but after the next chorus, after the next chorus.

Speaker 1 Y'all feeling good, y'all are? Y'all are? Y'all are right. Energy up, energy up.

Speaker 1 Voices is right. So Nelly is right.
We got everything we need. We got some water.

Speaker 1 We got some Merlot. What you be drinking? You got your wine?

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 and when

Speaker 1 we walk and

Speaker 1 free.

Speaker 1 Rest in peace to anybody we lost out there.

Speaker 1 So peace. Bishop Brigante, rest in peace, boy.

Speaker 1 We love you.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo.

Speaker 1 love us go. That's what for

Speaker 1 songs like this made it made it hard to keep fucking the young girls, man.

Speaker 1 Made it hard. You threw this shit on, the bitches was confused in the front seat.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you ain't got no Bryson in your surrounding play?

Speaker 1 I do, but what that got to do with Jeffrey? You mind if I play something?

Speaker 1 Oh my Lord. Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 What we have is much more than they.

Speaker 1 All right, man. God damn.

Speaker 1 That was beautiful.

Speaker 1 That was absolutely beautiful. That was nice, Different.

Speaker 1 That was nice. That was a nice little switch up, right? That was nice.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 These new niggas got bent over the counter, bitch.

Speaker 1 That was the new RB. Right.
That was the new RV.

Speaker 1 Which means

Speaker 1 Flip and Mel and Mark, Mark, Mark. All right, what episode is this? 815.
Welcome to episode 815 of the Joe Button podcast. Brought to you by a few by power by Prize Pigs.
Prize pigs, gang.

Speaker 1 I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with the best cast in the universe to my right.
Y'all know the vibes. Y'all know the name.

Speaker 1 The beautiful, the illustrious, the legendary. Melissa Ford straight from the sixth.
Woody who.

Speaker 1 Happy to be here with us. How you doing, Mel? I'm doing great.
Great, great, great. Next to her, Queens Flip.
Queens get the money. Yo, yo.
How you feeling, man? Cool. Good, good.
How's Nico doing?

Speaker 1 Nico's doing well. Good, good, good.
All right. Next to Flip.
Come on, man. Y'all know the vibes.
Big-ish. Welcome back.
Welcome back.

Speaker 1 We missed you, brother. Thank you, sir.
Missed you a lot, man. A lot, man.
I said the same thing they said.

Speaker 1 I said the same thing they said, and you just give me.

Speaker 1 Today is.

Speaker 1 That's what you said? I'm like, yes. It's the messenger.
This nigga said, yo.

Speaker 1 That's where you get the nanny so you can come to work.

Speaker 1 That's what they said.

Speaker 1 You, you know what? You're right. In a normal world, I would treat you the same way I treat Parks and some of them tricks he getting off of it.
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 Dog, the nanny's not going to take your kid to the ER at two in the morning. That's not true.

Speaker 1 Oh, Pear will. That's not true.
Not my kid. Oh, you don't want to say that? I mean, you would want to go with your kid.
I'm going to the ER with my kid. I'm with you.

Speaker 1 But when they get back home, you could go to... I'm not saying you.

Speaker 1 The nanny would still go with you. Even if you were that parent, the nanny would be with you.

Speaker 1 No, the nanny's going to be asleep, and me and my girl are going to be at the hospital. I don't need a nanny at the ER with me in the middle of the night.
That's when it turns into something else.

Speaker 1 You're a good employer, really.

Speaker 1 Do you treat the people at Home Depot the same way? I don't hire anybody from Home Depot.

Speaker 1 I thought that was true.

Speaker 1 Stop listening to these niggas, Oxel. I don't know.

Speaker 1 You get them at the restaurant, Jamaican restaurant. Or the match.
You a shit. Yo, I mean, while Oxtelle,

Speaker 1 your hang sheetrock,

Speaker 1 these niggas crazy, y'all. You gotta stop doing it, go.

Speaker 1 Hire some workers, bro.

Speaker 1 yeah, dog. I don't have no Home Depot workers.
Got it. All right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, joke. Yo, one day, see, on the real part, whatever day, whatever year we start the real part, we're going to get into niggas' hiring practices.

Speaker 1 Shoot.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Because I didn't know that that was just a joke narrative that we made up.
I thought you really did that, too. Did go to Home Depot and pick up the people? Sometimes.
Never.

Speaker 1 No, you got to say that. Like, never? I've never done that.
Really? He's had workers for the table workers for years. I've never picked up a place with Home Depot.
So where you get your niggas from

Speaker 1 either through like a referral some like that like some of my guys been working for me for literally over 15 years so

Speaker 1 you got that long money huh so i might have met somebody

Speaker 1 administration

Speaker 1 no so you like you might be on the job site and then one of your other my contractor friends would be like y'all got a dude that do X Y Z and they'll

Speaker 1 even have him coming off his name with what yeah they'll introduce you to do work well, and then y'all just build a rapport. You just go from that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you said you weren't affected by Trump's deportation laws.

Speaker 1 The pandemic or any of that shit. Yeah.
It was a good gig to have, nigga. I'll grab a hammer.

Speaker 1 I'll come over there. Whoa, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 That was wild. That was wild.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 Never listen to the hammer. That's sick.
That's a good manner.

Speaker 1 Grabbing random hammers.

Speaker 1 No, he's good. I need need his money.
I'll grab a hammer.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Y'all need to grow up.
No,

Speaker 1 sick.

Speaker 1 Man, I mean, shit.

Speaker 1 How much we talking?

Speaker 1 Yo, don't start. Don't start your shit.
Y'all start your shit, yo. Y'all started it.
Stop the gay for pay shit. Stop it.
Stop, bro. Stop, bro.

Speaker 1 Gay for pay. Stop it, man.
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 You offer that nigga somebody, shake some ass to put on a dollar. Stop that, man.
I could just tell niggas who made, who just,

Speaker 1 their bills was due on the third, put whatever day they are, the 15th, and you ain't have it, and them niggas was calling. How can I always tell niggas that just

Speaker 1 are you?

Speaker 1 How can you tell? Because

Speaker 1 y'all sound like the niggas

Speaker 1 that never just had to contemplate what you wouldn't, wouldn't do.

Speaker 1 That's not true. First of all, it's other things.
Niggas ain't gonna be gay for pay. It's other things you can't do.
You keep talking about gay for pay. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 If you participate in homosexual activities for the sake of profit or getting money, that's gay for pay. Get them.
Period. Or buy for

Speaker 1 rock.

Speaker 1 I couldn't think of nothing, yo. But I understand, but I heard that before, but I didn't know that was a thing.
I thought niggas just playing on the internet with it. No.
I didn't know that was funny.

Speaker 1 Like, I heard that. What he's saying, I heard that, but I thought it was just jokes.
There's survival crimes. Yeah, people do.

Speaker 1 Survival crimes? Survival crimes. That's what people talk about.
Survival crimes, yeah. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Sex work is a survival crime. People, a lot of times, people get homeless.

Speaker 1 Yo, this is the best nigga. Yo, be the best.

Speaker 1 Be the best.

Speaker 1 I agree with what he's saying, too. Yeah, I mean, it's survival crime.

Speaker 1 They got talking.

Speaker 1 Corey, you know a lot of shit. Hey, yo, I can't.
You know a lot of shit. Hold on.
Yo, some of these niggas make more money than the president. You know,

Speaker 1 that ain't the example Joe just gave. He's talking about the one thing for the money.
He's talking about the one that's receiving the money. But the one I'm saying is a survival quantum.

Speaker 1 Some of the bitches out there is just doing it. Yeah, it's the people who are making money.
They just get into it.

Speaker 1 But sometimes, just like some of y'all might hustle, steal, rob, sell dope when the money due and you got to get diapers and shit. Some niggas sell ass.
So if you sell dope, is you just a crook?

Speaker 1 No, it's a survival crime. You're selling ass.

Speaker 1 Survival crimes. No,

Speaker 1 they both survival crimes.

Speaker 1 They both survival crimes. The fun shit is sending that text to somebody that is already surviving just to see what they respond to be.
Hey, 10K for the private.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Thriving crimes.

Speaker 1 How could you? That's the link?

Speaker 1 That's the linguaff? Just on the rant.

Speaker 1 That's the linguaffe? Y'all can't try to put down the sex workers, bitch. Y'all best friend is a sex worker.

Speaker 1 I'll send that text to y'all best friend. She will get it shaken.

Speaker 1 I got 15 for the private, 30 minutes.

Speaker 1 Niggas, she's coming to shake ass. Anyway, did we introduce this boss? No, you didn't stop here.

Speaker 1 Ice is all right.

Speaker 2 There we go. Okay.

Speaker 1 Ice is the freeziest. That's hate.
All right, the freeze. And that's hate.
The freeziest of them all. Big freeze.
What's happening, man? Big freeze. Don't make them.

Speaker 1 Don't make them.

Speaker 1 Don't keep going. Don't make him what? Don't

Speaker 1 make them. Don't make them take it further.

Speaker 1 Hey, Mr. Nicky Bro.

Speaker 1 Don't make them. All right.
Dr. Mark Lamar Hill is in the building.
PhD.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 whoa.

Speaker 1 I jumped. I can make it.
Yo, I can't help it. I can't help.

Speaker 1 Nah, that's hate. Stop hate.
You need to stop, nigga.

Speaker 1 Where are you? Shut your ass up, and you should stop it. I jumped.
I'm sorry. If you jumped, while you heard PhD, huh? In your mind, right?

Speaker 1 That shit's right, but whatever we did, we're saying that was a hit.

Speaker 1 Nigga, I'm hating.

Speaker 1 I got a clean tip piece.

Speaker 1 I ain't even gonna say that. You're gonna empty the whole clip.
I ain't gonna say that. Careful, you're suspended for that.
Yeah, word.

Speaker 1 Parks. Elmira's finest.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Elmira's finest.

Speaker 1 You could tell. You can tell.

Speaker 1 Big Parks is in the building.

Speaker 1 Poe is here. Corey is here.
Erickson is here. I'm sick of Ian and Key.
Get out.

Speaker 1 Ian and Keith. Get the fuck out of here.
If y'all are here, get out.

Speaker 1 What the fuck? Anyway, how's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? What's poppy, what's popping, what's popping? What's up? What's up? Good, good, man. Glad to be back, man.

Speaker 1 Really happy to be here with everybody with a full cat. Yeah, man.
What? The whole band is here. What? Should feel good when everybody here.

Speaker 1 When you wake up on a workday without somebody somebody sending a text at 3 a.m., 4 a.m., 5 a.m.

Speaker 1 That's not just you, so I'm not just shooting at you. No, I said, I said a couple of the day too.
Yeah, everybody said that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But yeah, you just know gang, gang is coming in.
That does feel good. I'm happy to see y'all.

Speaker 1 Has anyone done anything

Speaker 1 that I will be able to exploit for entertainment purposes

Speaker 1 over the weekend?

Speaker 1 Has anybody done anything weird? What the weird. Interesting, fun.

Speaker 1 I went to a banquet. It's a Eid banquet.
So after Ramadan, there's like a banquet that you go to, or it's a festival you go to called, you know,

Speaker 1 iftars and Eids and stuff. But I went to one in New York for celebrity Muslims.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 who?

Speaker 2 Oh, God. I cannot wait to hear who is there.

Speaker 1 Celebrity Muslims.

Speaker 1 You asked

Speaker 1 It was actually,

Speaker 1 I'd been supposed to go a couple years. I didn't go for a variety of reasons.

Speaker 1 The location is secret.

Speaker 1 They don't tell you where it is until like,

Speaker 1 maybe like less than 24 hours before.

Speaker 1 It actually turned out to be dope. I thought it was going to be like super like conservative and staunch and like boring, but it was actually really, really dope.

Speaker 1 And a lot of cool people were there, including some people I didn't know were Muslim, who I don't think want to be known as Muslims.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, so since it was a secret location, you probably can't say who was there.

Speaker 1 I mean, some people were there that could say, like, Hassan Minhaj was there, and you were trying to get on again. I'm not talking.
I'm just, I'm curious. She was coming tomorrow, he jabbed.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 I already told that story. My name was Brittany Ritter.
Okay. Oh, shit.
Right. And what happened?

Speaker 1 She dropped out.

Speaker 1 I found it. She dropped out.

Speaker 1 We got to do this every day. I found it way too restrictive.

Speaker 2 All my dates were going to be chaperoned and I couldn't wear a belly top.

Speaker 2 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, you have little faith. Yeah, I've just

Speaker 2 definitely.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Okay, go on.
No, it was dope. Motivation or abs.
What a choice.

Speaker 2 Then I tried Buddhism on for size, but that's a whole goddamn

Speaker 1 go ahead, Mark. Buddhism.
I'm more intrigued by this, but. Yeah, word.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it was dope. Black Thought came through.

Speaker 1 Hassan Minhaj was there. Rami Youssef was there.
A lot of dope people.

Speaker 1 I thought my wife wanted to go because she thought Maharshala Ali was going to be there because he was supposed to be there.

Speaker 1 He wasn't there. No, that's the same face she had when she found out he wasn't there.
I realized I was just her plus one to go see Marshall Ali. But it was dope.

Speaker 1 I ain't want to say nothing. No, no, I'm not doing that.
I see.

Speaker 1 I'm nice. What, what, what? Nothing.

Speaker 1 Damn, we all had to say.

Speaker 1 What's the joke? No, tell me.

Speaker 1 All right, but just slow down. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 He trying to keep it going.

Speaker 1 Okay. Y'all think that.
Look at y'all. Of course y'all thought it too.

Speaker 1 No, I thought that the room thought it. I know where y'all brave all of it.
So who? Your wife wanted to see who? Mahersha Ali. Mahersha Ali.

Speaker 1 You too, right?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 It got to the point that at some point the MC was like, yeah, ladies, he's not here. Like if he was walking around looking and shit, like, you know what I mean? Yeah, nah, he wasn't there.

Speaker 1 Uh, wish he had been. Good brother.
How do you feel about it? Which part? That your wife wouldn't say about the guy that my wife was getting pounded by Marshall Ali. Oh, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I was awesome.

Speaker 1 I was a ball.

Speaker 1 I have to respect that.

Speaker 1 Don't put that on the office.

Speaker 1 This is early in the pod.

Speaker 1 So listen. He's trying to run away with the award.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this guy.

Speaker 1 I thought that fiddle was good. But Yeah.
Yeah. Not the pounded out part, but knowing who your who your wife's crushes.
One of the crushes is, and him being like crushable still.

Speaker 1 That nigga ain't fall off. Is that her crushable?

Speaker 1 You said one of, too? Because you know, nah, I mean, everybody, like, I know.

Speaker 1 That's her crush?

Speaker 1 I think so. I know Idris is one.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. I think I.
All right, I see what's going on.

Speaker 1 I see what's going on. Bunch of niggas don't look like me.

Speaker 1 No, you don't

Speaker 1 like Tornado. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
no, no, no, that's just true. You just a filling? No, that's not true.

Speaker 1 You definitely belong in these lineups as like the Burger King.

Speaker 1 You're like the junior. Not the Burger King.

Speaker 1 I'm the freezer. I'm the freezer of Bill Frank.
Like Burger Mac.

Speaker 1 The Modega shit.

Speaker 1 The Modega works.

Speaker 1 Crazy. The little motherfucker Modega chips.

Speaker 1 He this shit is on Canal.

Speaker 1 Yo. We got canal interest.

Speaker 1 He's right there in the front, nigga, crazy. With a foot bag on.

Speaker 1 But he does belong in there. You belong in there.
That nigga said you are the canal Idris.

Speaker 1 Nah, look, yo, canal Idris. I can't even argue.
I am.

Speaker 1 That's a compliment, shit. Oh, man.
But, Mark, when you say crushed, did she confirm this or you just assume it?

Speaker 1 She's not.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about the Michelle. What's his name? Maher Ali.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know him.
You know him. Yeah, but don't do that.
Don't try to get us to know him.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Don't try to get him.
You don't know him. Can I see a picture of him?

Speaker 2 Luke Cage, Cottonmouth.

Speaker 1 Oh, the big guy. Yes.
That's my man. Oh,

Speaker 1 I think you're thinking of the wrong guy. Call him up.

Speaker 1 But you know, he was the muscle guy in Luke Cage. You probably know.

Speaker 2 No, you're talking about Mike Coulter, not Luke Cage, the one who played Cottonmouth.

Speaker 1 You probably know him from Moonlight. Moonlight, yeah.

Speaker 1 You're talking about Terry Cruise. We're not talking about.
No.

Speaker 1 Fuck you. That's Roger Lottie.

Speaker 1 that nigga

Speaker 1 sit down

Speaker 1 I don't want to know none of my wife crushes nigga act like you don't crush nothing even though she tell me but I don't want to know well well just so it's not fair you're a new member of the pod

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 uh Parks's Parks's is Richard

Speaker 1 Gear?

Speaker 1 Richard Goldblum. Your wife's blue.
Oh, Jeff Goldblum.

Speaker 1 Jeff Goldblum. Jeff Goldblum.

Speaker 1 Mark Simpson. Got you.
Got you. Parks' is Jeff Goldblum.
Yeah. Got you.
Like,

Speaker 1 I feel like it's more interesting Mahersha, but it's both of them are in the... They're in the same.
That's what's up, though. I mean, you know.

Speaker 1 Do you feel like you could get either one of them out the pain if you felt like it? No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Wise man knows his limits.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like my chance against most people, but no. That's why it pays not to be wise sometimes.

Speaker 1 It pays to be delusional. A little delusional.

Speaker 1 So when you're wise. Just so you know, you're the only man in this room that's ever been honest about that.
Facts. Really? Mm-hmm.
Yeah. You know what? Hold on.
Yo, what's up with you?

Speaker 1 She, nigga, she at least. She's trying to keep her shit clear.
You feel me? She's trying to keep the lane clear. Does it case? I agree.
Mashash Ali, come through. I'm fucking up.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 No, he's very married and he's very happily married.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 We know the other man. Married.
He's going to the other man. Hey, hey.
Happily married.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey.

Speaker 1 You got a tough man on your side.

Speaker 1 Girlfriends don't count. Anyways, go on.
Whoa.

Speaker 1 Go on. I wouldn't say shit.
Mel. Way better.
Yo, that, along with your take from the last part about them punching the reporter girl in the face. Yo, they were.

Speaker 1 They are mad at that. This is evil Mel now.
Okay. That lady mad.

Speaker 1 They're mad about Mel's faith saying that comment. You're fucking well.

Speaker 1 No, no, Mel should have said it, but I agree with her.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Well, you got your own beefs too, by the way.
Yeah, you got some more beef. You got some more beef, so you got to chill out.
I haven't opened my phone. I got a beef.

Speaker 1 You see Denise Williams going in, Odie? Denise Williams. Yeah.
Yeah. Who, Denise? Let's hear it for the boys.
Let's hear it for the boy. Yes.
Yes. It's going on on Joe? Yes.
You ain't here for you.

Speaker 1 What do you do?

Speaker 1 She's from Gary, my nigga. She's trying to ask me.
She's a Gary.

Speaker 1 I mean, fuck that. She got smoked.

Speaker 1 Where can we find this?

Speaker 1 this common knowledge. What is this? Yeah, you got both.
I got it.

Speaker 1 Y'all got beef with y'all. Y'all didn't write it on the board.
Burnt, burn. Burner.
It's a burner. That's why.

Speaker 1 Watch it. That's show me how she looks.
Keeps fucking looking.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious. Denise Williams is cursing me out.
What did you do? For what I had to say about Gary and Deanna. Yes.
Oh, okay. Okay.
I was like, random ass beef.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you can get a lot of people off about that one. That's hilarious.
Can y'all give me her page of old school? I'll show you. Look at y'all.

Speaker 1 We on her side, niggas. I know.
That's been the history of this part.

Speaker 1 Yo, don't do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's been the history up here.

Speaker 1 I stand with you, bro. Any RB singers you got beef with, that's the whoever.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious. I had no idea that she's.
See, that's what I'm saying. When I shake shit up, it'd be legendary, yo.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Sent me a video from this guy named Joe

Speaker 1 talking about

Speaker 1 Gary, Indiana, and his mayor like a dog.

Speaker 2 You don't know what you're talking about. You have no idea what is going on in Gary at this moment.

Speaker 2 The things that we are doing to raise our city when we have people like you talking about it

Speaker 2 instead of supporting us and trying to see our city bloom and grow.

Speaker 2 If you don't have anything positive to say about Gary Indiana, my hometown, and my mayor, Eddie Milton, I am encouraging you to shut up.

Speaker 1 Take that. Take that.
Bars.

Speaker 1 I need that with the Ethereum. You know what? Y'all want to be part of the solution, nigga.
Shut up. Shut up.

Speaker 1 That one. That one.

Speaker 1 That one. That one.
Over there. Over there.
Well, first of all, respectful. We're going to respect the legends always.
No doubt. We're going to respect the legends always.

Speaker 1 And I don't think that was as bad as

Speaker 1 that wasn't bad. Denise Williams is just uninformed.

Speaker 1 We are.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe I was.

Speaker 1 But today, we are actively working with the mayor of Gary, Indiana to bring awareness to what is currently going on out there and help all of the fucking people that are raising money and fucking trying to get shit lit out there.

Speaker 1 So we're on the same page. Nice.
We both could have been uninformed. So let's give it up for some maturity.
Go Denise Williams. Shout out to her.
Hey, yo, dog.

Speaker 1 If I find out you gave 55 cents to Gary, Indiana,

Speaker 1 instead of giving 55 cents to Jersey City and Newark, uh-uh.

Speaker 1 Then that means that I support causes that are different from the ones that you support. They all the same causes.
I don't give a fuck about these prom kids' outfits.

Speaker 1 I don't give two shit just so we sleep.

Speaker 1 Nigga, if them niggas went and fucking salvation army fucking drub,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep.

Speaker 1 However, if there are some more pertinent issues that need

Speaker 1 my attention and my donation, and of course, I'm always there for Newark and Jersey City. Don't ever play with me like that.
Don't ever play with me like that. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Denise Williams. Shout out to you, Joe, for maturity.

Speaker 1 You want to move on?

Speaker 1 What's the Gary issues that you're supporting? There we go. Whoa.

Speaker 1 What are the Gary issues? Fight yourself sometimes. Yo, you heard your explanation.
Yo, niggas in the beats your car.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 it's not about the issues I'm supporting in what I've learned from the mayor.

Speaker 1 It kind of echoes what she's saying. Whatever was going on back then, there are different people in charge now, and they are trying to do things differently, and it's a black dude.

Speaker 1 All you need to tell me is a black dude, is a black dude in charge, and he's trying to do something. It's a blad dude in charge of North, Roz Baraka.

Speaker 1 We're well aware of that. What do they have to do with the kids' tuxedos?

Speaker 1 But y'all keep talking about Newark. I'm down to do that in Newark as well.
This is not a Gary versus.

Speaker 1 I know y'all be looking for the gotcha moment. I'm down.
I'm down for Newark. We look for that.

Speaker 1 I'm down to support Newark as well. Why don't y'all do some real support instead of these dirty-ass tuxedos that y'all are talking about? You can't say that to me.
Why not?

Speaker 1 Because I've given conventions on helping black kids

Speaker 1 for free. Oh, the broken brown tree.
You can't do that to me, fam. All right.
You can't do that to me, fam. All right, you got it.
By my own pocket, nigga. You can't.

Speaker 1 We never saw it. I can't.
We never seen it.

Speaker 1 We just freestyle. Yes, you have.

Speaker 1 I never seen it.

Speaker 1 I talked about it on the show. I never saw it.
We talked about it on the show. I never saw it.
I know, but you ain't come support your man. Oh.

Speaker 1 You know, and I'm never supporting you.

Speaker 1 Just so we're clear. Let me take some of the sting out the room.

Speaker 1 I'm never supporting you.

Speaker 1 Don't give a fuck up.

Speaker 1 We don't take it out. I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 That shit hit that.

Speaker 1 That shit stunk a little bit.

Speaker 1 I don't fuck about you, niggas.

Speaker 1 Anywhere y'all want to go. Anywhere y'all want to go.
Let's have some fun in here. Well, we've been having fun.
It's coming. Yeah, we've been bugging.
Freeze. What's up? Music.

Speaker 1 What you saying, freeze music? Y'all want to start with Dreamville? No. Oh, okay.
Well,

Speaker 1 I'm going to start with Dreamville. Nobody went.
Yeah. And it's not really over, right? You saw that.
Yeah, it's not over. It's not over.
They're rebranding. They're branding, changing the name.

Speaker 1 What's interesting about that?

Speaker 1 They pulled a fucking horrible decision.

Speaker 1 They got another four-year deal. Just call Bill now.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 They got another four-year deal with Raleigh. What was interesting, though, is in the statement, he said said that we're going to try to keep it,

Speaker 1 basically saying we're going to try to keep it hip-hop. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Try to keep it.

Speaker 2 Well, what does that mean? Does that mean that sometime something in the contract indicates...

Speaker 1 What I heard in that is we're going to return it up and it's going to be a little bit more. It's going to be different.
It's going to be inclusive. More inclusive.

Speaker 1 I was about to ask you, why the rebrand? Does anybody know?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I think it's also to take Cole from having a headline every year.

Speaker 1 Oh, that makes sense. But if you called the Dreamville Dreamville Festival, he don't got a headline that shit.
But he's Dreamville, so it's like he has to be physically there at something.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's true. Now this takes, he says he'll still be hands-on, but this takes him off of the stage.
Yeah, I don't have to really be this.

Speaker 1 I was just tight, there wasn't no stream this year because I really wanted to see Wayne set. That's a crop of shit.
What? Whatever you just said.

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 That nigga could stay home now.

Speaker 1 He asked for his ass to come out. All right.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Not speak.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying it could stay home now. As it being the Dreamville Fest or whatever it is right now.
But a lot of, like, you don't have to be there. Yeah, but it's

Speaker 1 sales. Yes.
Just like when Travis do the Astro World Fest, you're expecting

Speaker 1 OBO Fest.

Speaker 1 You're expecting to see that. Who's the replacement headliner? Don't make me argue against Cole right now, but I don't know that they lose sales if he just goes and books the headliner.

Speaker 1 Yes, you would. Yes, you would.

Speaker 1 So if he wants to. You can't say that for fact.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. You cannot say that.

Speaker 1 Travis headliner. Yeah, I don't know.
You can't say that. You're right.
For fact, I cannot say that.

Speaker 1 That being said, of the dozen or so people I know that went to Dreamville this year, and if you want to add on every year, dozens of people I know that have gone to Dreamville.

Speaker 1 They went to Dreamville for J. Cole.
They go for Cole. They go to see.
They see everybody else there, but they go for Cole. And if they put whoever...
I'm shutting up because it's not important.

Speaker 1 How many people... I'm not shutting up because that's not what I do.

Speaker 1 How many people are at Dreamville currently?

Speaker 1 I don't know. 40,000? Maybe.
Yeah, I don't know. It's a lot.
50,000. It's a lot.

Speaker 1 It's definitely a lot.

Speaker 1 I'm not on the side of it's not a lot. I'm not on that side.
I think it would still be successful without him. I don't think it would be as successful without him being the headliner currently.

Speaker 1 The part I agree with what you said, Ice, is whatever they're doing in the next four years, I'm sure they will try to eclipse whatever they have been doing. Absolutely.
This is the upscale.

Speaker 1 This is upscaling.

Speaker 1 You want to make it bigger than just Dreamville,

Speaker 1 but still do it for North Carolina, for Raleigh, et cetera. And he owns it, right?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 But outside of that, nigga, we got Rolling Loud. J.
Cole not on Rolling Laut. So if you replace the people,

Speaker 1 that's them niggas, you replace J. Cole with them, you could do Rolling Laut numbers, to your point.

Speaker 1 If you replace the headliner with another monster headliner, the baby gonna come, baby. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, but there's also like

Speaker 1 fatigue from you see the same artist at all these different festivals. Like, there's all there's bad festivals, and there's only but so many superstars.

Speaker 1 Back to our conversation that we've had the last two weeks.

Speaker 1 There is a uniqueness about Dreamville that is J. Cole being the headliner.
It seems a little authentic. It feels more grassroots.
Yeah, it does. It does.
And his whole label and squad.

Speaker 1 Like, that's a thing. I agree with that.
If you just throw in, I don't want to say anybody's name because it's going to sound disrespectful.

Speaker 1 You throw anybody's name in there, it's not going to ring quite the same. I think they might look at it as they just maybe hit a ceiling.
Like, this is as big as its paws can get.

Speaker 1 Cole is on his way out. As far as we could go with you, earthy hoes.
And now

Speaker 1 we got a

Speaker 1 upscale. Sonics band.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that might be. We'll try to keep it hip-hop.

Speaker 1 I saw that and I said, oh,

Speaker 1 oh, man. My room five come next year.

Speaker 1 Be prepared. Put them fucking incense away.

Speaker 1 Y'all shower now.

Speaker 1 Who performed? Come on. Somebody give us something that actually happened from this from this thing.
Again, because there was no stream, I couldn't really see much. I saw Wale.
I saw Absolutely Clips.

Speaker 1 I saw Wayne. I saw a ludicrous in the clip.
I was like, oh, shit. Look, Ludovic.
It's ludicrous. Yeah, I saw a ludo.
I saw Eric.

Speaker 1 I saw a juvenile.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, but I didn't see it.

Speaker 2 Why did they decide not to stream it this year?

Speaker 1 They didn't say, but they did put it out early that there will not be a stream. I'm sure it's busy.
Are we too old to catch flights and go to fucking the hippie shit? Yes. No.
Do we now? Yes.

Speaker 1 I was struggling to be able to do it. I'm not going to go at this festival.

Speaker 1 Not for the festival shit.

Speaker 1 If somebody's doing a one-off show somewhere and it's like in their hometown, you got to be there for it. I'll catch the flight for that.
I'm not going to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 Marcus went to the Kendrick shit. That's a one-off show.

Speaker 1 That's a one-off show. I wanted to go to Dreamville.
I just had something booked this weekend, so I was not going to. If Jeezy does a show in Atlanta for the 20th anniversary of

Speaker 1 I'm going. This broadcast is too big, Doug, to not have a presence over there.
But I ain't going.

Speaker 1 I wanted to go. Tanner went.
Yeah, Tanner went. Yeah.
Oh, we got to call Tanner then. Find out why.
Mandy went.

Speaker 1 Fire, I forget it then. Call her.
Call Mandy.

Speaker 1 You picked up the ball. Tell me what you call.
Tell me how it was, nigga. I don't call and check on people.

Speaker 1 That's not my bag. That's your bag.

Speaker 1 Just humanism.

Speaker 1 Humanism is our bag. I'm joking around because we're on air.
I'll get to my human spirit when we get to selfish versus

Speaker 1 selflessness. That's when I'll get serious about where my human spirit lies.
But okay, go Dreamville.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that being said, I didn't see any major headlines, any announcements, any super big special guests. It seemed like it was just a good weekend from everybody that I saw posting.
Got it. Got it.

Speaker 1 All right, well, shout out to everybody that went out there.

Speaker 1 What I do love about Dreamville and the weekend is that there's never any hints of violence or gunfire or facts, facts, or overcrowding.

Speaker 1 You never hear any of that.

Speaker 1 Which is dope. You don't hear none of that.
Yeah, because the hippie niggas, they just want to smoke some weed and get humped on.

Speaker 1 No, because North Carolina is a great place to be right now for black people.

Speaker 1 Honestly.

Speaker 1 Why you say that?

Speaker 1 Just how black people are doing in North Carolina, Charlotte specifically. Charlotte, yeah.
It ain't cheap neither. Yeah, it's

Speaker 1 moving. I've never heard of Charlotte.
It's going up. It's far with Atlanta and D.C., but I think it's in that conversation.
It's the growth of the movement. And it's growing.
Yeah. Tremendously.

Speaker 1 Hey, shout out to Charlotte, man. That's dope.
Shout out to Charlotte. Yeah, so that's just a lit time to have

Speaker 1 out there right now. So shout out to them.

Speaker 1 What else? What else? Anything else that? Y'all see this billboard list? Oh, I saw it.

Speaker 1 It wasn't the worst of lists. I didn't see it.
I didn't agree with it, but it wasn't the worst. You know, sometimes they'd be so egregious.

Speaker 1 I'd be like, y'all shouldn't even be allowed to talk about this. What was the list? The top 25 women rappers of all time.
Why do we always let them do it to us? Yeah, fuck it. Fuck all that.

Speaker 1 It's part of our job. Fuck it.
Yeah. I'm not mad at it.
This is early in the show for it, but.

Speaker 1 I saw the list and then I was like,

Speaker 1 here we go. Then I said, you know what? Fuck it.
We'll talk about it. Why not? What did you think of it, Ice?

Speaker 1 I saw some old names that were there that shouldn't be there, and some names that were not there that should have been there. For me, it was also more the order of.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to pull up a list up now.

Speaker 1 It was the order of. I got it.

Speaker 1 It was the order of the people for me more than who was on it. Although there were two names I thought should have been on there.
25 is

Speaker 1 Tierra Wack.

Speaker 1 24 is Dolce.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 23 is Gangsta Boo. 22 is Lady of Rage.
21 is Glorilla. 20 is Moni Love.
19 is Lotto. 18 is Remy Ma.
That's some bullshit.

Speaker 1 17 is Rhapsody. Some more bullshit.

Speaker 1 16 is Doja. 15 is Meg.

Speaker 1 14 is Left Eye. 13 is Trina.
12 is De Bret.

Speaker 1 11 is Cardi. 10 is Foxy Brown.

Speaker 1 10 is Foxy. 9 is Eve.
8 is Roxanne Shantae.

Speaker 1 7 is Salt salt and pepper six MC Light five Queen Latifah four Little Kim three Lauren well three little Lauren Hill two Missy Elliott and one Nikki Minaj and before we react let me give you their criteria because it's always that's important yeah

Speaker 1 all right so the criteria is body of work slash achievements and they put that as charted singles and albums gold platinum certifications cultural impact slash influence longevity lyrics, and flow.

Speaker 1 That's the criteria to come up with this list. I'm not mad at Nick being number one.

Speaker 1 He's not mad at number two. He is number one.
I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that.
I'm not mad at those two. I'm not mad at that.
Lauren, you know, I love Lauren, but. I'm not mad at that.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 look who she sits behind.

Speaker 1 Okay. So.
I just think she's more... Got more singing songs than she got rapping songs.
Way more. I wouldn't put her that

Speaker 1 high. I would put her on the list, of course.
She'd behind the singer's list. But see, with that same criteria.

Speaker 1 Her album that she rapped on went diamond. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Two albums. She's three hours of this.
She's rapping. Two diamond albums.

Speaker 1 Right. Hard to argue against it, is all I'm saying.
Cultural impact. But I feel like we've done that here.
We have.

Speaker 1 And I would have her on there. I would just have her a little bit lower.
That's what I'm low.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying at the end of the list or something. That five, read the two right after her.
I'm not going to hold you. That's not a picture.

Speaker 1 Queen Latifah. That's what I said.
Fancy Light, Salt and Pepper, Roxanne, Shantae E. Foxy Brown is 10.
I would have had to heard that. Foxy Brown goes way higher, but that top four,

Speaker 1 I would just put Foxy in the top five.

Speaker 1 Really? Foxy 100%

Speaker 1 is a top five.

Speaker 1 You can't, because who are you going to take out?

Speaker 1 You got to take out Missy. To me, Missy's too high, but.
Hell no. Missy is good.
You get what I'm saying? To put Foxy in the top five, because again, we come from the Foxy era.

Speaker 1 Who do you take out that top five? I'm taking Lauren out. Who's five? Yeah, I'm pushing Lauren out.
Nikki is one. I didn't ask you that.
I said, who's five? I'm about to tell you, Nikki is one.

Speaker 1 Who's number five?

Speaker 1 Sorry. Queen Latifa.

Speaker 2 Who's number two? And see, I can't take.

Speaker 1 You can't take Queen Latifah out of that. Well, I can't because I'm from New Jersey.
No, not just that. The cultural impact at Queen Latifah, it wouldn't be a bunch of these people if it's not Jesus.

Speaker 1 And charting singles. I mean, to me, it's just that the same criteria that pushes Lauren.
I'm Lauren Jersey, so I'm not going to do it with you. That's fair.
I'm from Philly.

Speaker 1 I'm happy to be able to do that. I can hear what you're saying, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just feel like whatever criteria pushes Lauren down would also push Left Eye down, would also push Missy down.

Speaker 1 I'm not against any of those people.

Speaker 1 I think they're extraordinary, but I'm just saying: if we're saying Missy's the number two woman rapper of all time, a lot of her influence was not from the bars, it was from the songs she made.

Speaker 1 Missy's an extra, is like an all-around, amazing artist. Far too much.

Speaker 1 Missy deserves all that shit that y'all give Lauren.

Speaker 1 Yes, I think that's right. I think that's right.
I just don't know if I'd have her as number two on my rapper list. Missy ain't done enough rapping at all.
All that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 With respect to her pen and her albums and her artistry,

Speaker 1 that's where she gets to that creativity. That's the rapping part.
But she raps. She does rap.
But not enough to be the number two rapper of all time. Not exactly.

Speaker 1 Is she writing with a pen? That's a good point. That's a good point.
If she's writing with a pen, you want her before all the rest of them. Yeah.
Just maybe not as a rapper.

Speaker 1 I don't have no problem with this top five. She, my argument comes later in the list.
I'm looking for Bahamadia. Like, I'm not.
I was going to say that. Ron Digger is the number of people.

Speaker 1 Mia X. I said it before.
People asking me about it. I'm not going to be a bad guy.
I don't play about.

Speaker 1 Philadelphia female MCs, I don't play about. Thank you.
Gene Gray. Sean.

Speaker 1 To me, Gene Gray should be on this list, and no name should be on this list. When you start looking at the rest of the criteria, I understand.
I understand, but that's why I don't like the criteria.

Speaker 1 Because Gene Gray, to me, if we're just talking about pure talent, this might be another wild take. No.

Speaker 1 She can rap better. I don't know anybody else that could rap better than Gene Gray, quite frankly.
Vaccinate.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't fight that, but I'm saying they ain't in the same conversation.

Speaker 1 Gene Gray is different. I don't know nobody that rapped better than Gene Gray.
But with the criteria, outside of bars, you don't have nothing else that's going to meet the criteria.

Speaker 1 And that's why I don't love the criteria a little bit. You know what I mean? Because now I got, now somebody who's an extraordinary rapper like Gene Gray is not on the list.

Speaker 1 Mark, who would you take off the list?

Speaker 1 I would take off.

Speaker 1 I hate taking people off because then it seems like a disc. Not really.

Speaker 1 I don't know the girl. I'm taking Dochi off the list.
I'll say it. It's too early.
I'm not taking Dochi off. It's too early.
I'm not way too early. Tierra Wack 100% has to be off the list.

Speaker 1 Tierra Wack, I'm not mad at that either. I was early and Suura.
It's too early, yeah. Suerry, too.
But you can't take Dolcey off and leave Lady of Rage on.

Speaker 2 I was about to say, yeah.

Speaker 1 Wait, why not?

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Hold up.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.

Speaker 1 Somebody, name three Lady of Rage songs. Not fear.
Name two Lady of Rage songs. That's actually fair.
That's not fear. We could be aware of Lady of Rage's contribution, which was more than just...

Speaker 1 But I know one song. Which was more than just

Speaker 1 Lady of Rage

Speaker 1 solo songs. She was the female representation of the whole West Coast at one point.

Speaker 1 That's a contribution to hip-hop that some of these people have not paid. Yeah, that's why I think she should be like number 26.

Speaker 1 Lady of Rage made the list just off the Steve Harvey show.

Speaker 1 Afropuffs and dogs.

Speaker 1 Whatever the fuck. Rock on with your bad.

Speaker 1 Everybody loves Afro Puffs, so you can't name another song. Yo-Yo not on here.
She's from Farnville, huh? She's from Yo-Farvarvarvarvarville. Yo-Yo is another one.
Yo-Yo not on here. Yo-Yo not.

Speaker 1 This is what I'm I'm saying. How the fuck, if you talk about West Coast representation of women, it's not Lady of Rage.
It's Yo-Yo.

Speaker 1 Name me two Yo-Yo songs. Lady of Rage got up there because of Death Roll.
Let's tell the truth. Name me two Yo-Yo songs.
You can't play with my Yo-Yo. And Don't Try to Play Me Out.

Speaker 1 Fuck exactly.

Speaker 1 Now she on the

Speaker 1 I Want to Be Down Remix.

Speaker 1 Yep. That's a classic verse.
I'll be your hotel. Yeah.
That's a classic verse. That's two.
Rage is on. Rock Diggers'

Speaker 1 list. Rod Diggers on.
Rod Diggers should absolutely be riding. Rod Digger should definitely be.
Rod Digger definitely needs to be.

Speaker 1 Because she actually has some platinum singles, whether it's future or whatever you want to say.

Speaker 2 Where do you guys think that Remy should be placed on this list?

Speaker 1 Higher, higher than

Speaker 1 18. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Higher than 18. Like top 10?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 But higher than, maybe 11. I was going to say maybe around 13,

Speaker 1 somewhere in there. It's definitely higher than that list, though.
Is Roxanne Shante too high? Yes. Yes.
Yep. Respectfully.
I hate to say that, but yes. Respectfully.
You think she shouldn't be high.

Speaker 1 You think Foxy Brown should be lower than her. Her impact is major.
But I'm telling you, bro. Five seconds on Roxanne Shantae.
There's 2025, almost 2026. I'm just telling y'all.

Speaker 1 That's why she should be on the list, though. But listen, if that's the case, then you can't say Salt and Pepper should be seven.
I don't think Salt and Bepper should be seventh.

Speaker 1 I do not think that Salt and Pepper should be above. It's fucked up to say, but you're asking me.
And I wouldn't go to Billboard for mine. I would have the argument with people that know the shit.

Speaker 1 But I'm putting Foxy Brown before Salt and Pepper. Don't you fucking see me.
I know you can't. And I love it.
I'm going to ask y'all. I know that it's

Speaker 1 not appropriate to say.

Speaker 1 I'll just want me. It's not a crazy take, but I don't agree with it, but it's not crazy.
No, nope. Bro, without some of these people, there is no Foxy Brown.

Speaker 1 But there's a number of impact right there.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm not, I'm never taking away from their impact. I don't think that Foxy Brown is off the

Speaker 1 salt and pepper lineage. I don't.

Speaker 1 She definitely is. How? What are you talking about? Just, what's the difference? She's a girl rapper.
What other way is she off the salt embracing and man

Speaker 1 your sexuality yeah

Speaker 1 shoot nigga shoop you got

Speaker 1 before that before even before that pushy not just that

Speaker 1 i agree i'm joking but no i don't think they're the same lineage i think i think there's a very clear foxy brand like we know who the children of foxy and kim are right like it's very clear um we know who the children of latifah are i don't i don't see Foxy and Salt and Pepper being the same lineage, but there is a way that they just open the door for everybody.

Speaker 1 It's just pioneers. And I'll admit that I'm probably way more of a Foxy brand Foxy fan than most.

Speaker 1 I love Foxy Brown, too, bro. But I think she should be hot.
She's a man playing.

Speaker 1 Hella had commercial smashes in the early fucking 80s, dog, where females and hip-hop wasn't a thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 they got a lot of people. And they got longevity.
Yeah. Like, what was it? Ain't no hip better than Shooter Water, man.
They still play that shit on TV. Push it.
Push it. Push it.
What? Tramp.

Speaker 1 They got. They got it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they got a lot of record. After salt and pepper.
Let's go. Let's go, man.
Say tramp.

Speaker 1 They made Tramp.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man. They love that song.

Speaker 1 But Philly's well represented on this list. Left Eye.
I agree with you. Terra Wag.
I'm happy with that. Foxy needs to be at least five.

Speaker 1 Parks, I know it's prospect time, but I just want to have a good time for this.

Speaker 1 I'm coming. Parks.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Trap is hard, though. It is.

Speaker 1 The voice of this? Who produced this? Who made this beat?

Speaker 1 Dougie Freshman. This is the Dougie Freshman.
No, no. What's my name? This Marquis.
Who made this shit? You're talking about it. What'd you say?

Speaker 1 This is the Diamond Deep. This sounds like something.

Speaker 1 So listen close to what I say. I'm going to take this as a simple rhyme.
Cause this type of shit happens all the time. Now, who would you do that? And the stranger said,

Speaker 1 Look at my niggas starve.

Speaker 1 He made all that old shit.

Speaker 1 How does that go?

Speaker 1 It was right in Shaw. That's his Benjamin from Herbie Love Buck.
Oh, shit. Herbie Love Bug.
He's super duper. Herbie, that's who I'm thinking about.
Herbie Love Bug. Herbie also wrote the verse, too.

Speaker 1 He wrote the shit for me, too. He wrote all his verses.
That's why I also. And I heard he stole that.
That bothers me. I was about to ask you, does that affect anything for y'all on these lists?

Speaker 1 Well, because that would change a lot of these rankings.

Speaker 1 If you say pen game changes the list, then there's no list. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No list.

Speaker 1 Let me take that back. The list is drastically changed.
Yeah, because half that list got written for it. And a lot of men get written for it too, but half that list got written.

Speaker 1 Herbie wrote a whole bunch of stuff there. But Richard Franklin.
France wrote stuff on there.

Speaker 1 Fucking JD wrote stuff on there. I mean, you could, yeah, anyway.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that's the shit right there. Oh, oh, hold on now.

Speaker 1 Hold on now. Broken Silence album.
Go ahead, man. I'm not sick no more.
Turn up.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo. That's this one.

Speaker 1 Broken Silence is a great ass album. This is a hip-hop

Speaker 1 silence album, bro. This album is a good idea.
That's why Broken Silence is why Foxy needs to be in the top five albums.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 She's a Jamaican baby crying and niggas.

Speaker 1 I'm the most lyrically acclaimed rap bitch in the game. Coastal cold stash to get in the poster girl, dark skinned Christian B.

Speaker 1 Hey, Joe, you said Broken Silence is why you have that higher than Il Nana album? No. No, but Il Nana is in there.
Okay, no, I'm saying what you said, that's why I'm like,

Speaker 1 it's the extra piece that you know.

Speaker 1 The women that rank above Foxy have albums that may rank above Foxy. Yeah.
Broken Silence, for me, establishes her place in wherever you want to talk about. All right, all right.
I just.

Speaker 1 Because it's three strong albums in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the firm.

Speaker 1 And the firm. And the firm.
And the firm. Yeah.
Yeah, you kept up with them. Stop fucking playing with Foxy.
You kept up with

Speaker 1 them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Anyway.

Speaker 1 Oh, look at us. Black Boy Joy.

Speaker 1 Look at the Black Boy Joy. It came out of us.
And Mel was supporting us. You know, Mel don't be liking that Black Boy Joy.

Speaker 1 I love Black Boy Joy.

Speaker 2 I do.

Speaker 1 Fuck you.

Speaker 2 Don't start no rumors.

Speaker 1 Yo, Mel. I was getting out of the car this morning, right? Mel was walking up.
Mel came over and said, Let me help you. Give me your bag.
You need help with your scooter? Oh.

Speaker 1 I said, Yo, fam, why are you being nice? You high?

Speaker 1 You need to hold some money or something. Why are you being nice to me?

Speaker 2 I was helping.

Speaker 1 I was helping my friend who's a little carry the water.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yo, come on. I'm like, yo, give me a hole.
We're camaraderie or something, man.

Speaker 1 We're a team, yo. It's like, yo, that's fine.
It's like when you first got high. Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 It's like when y'all was like friends.

Speaker 1 Remembers? Y'all remember. I be watching the whole episode.

Speaker 1 Y'all remember. Anyway.

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Speaker 1 So much of that shit we were saying off mic was great.

Speaker 1 So much of what we went and did off mic. As usual, you said you had a joker question for him, soldier for you.
I know, and then that's great. And then Ish was great.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to lead and segment properly. Lead properly.

Speaker 1 You want to tell them where we went?

Speaker 1 We've been having an ongoing debate about who could lift 225 in here.

Speaker 1 And there has been a conversation about it. And some people were like, I could do it easily.
Some people said they couldn't, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 And so it kind of got tabled for a while, like a lot of our debates. And then me and Corey started talking about it again.
And Ian Schwartzman decided that he wanted to weigh in. I'm not sure why,

Speaker 1 but he said that he could do it. And I looked at Ian and said, yeah, I'm doubtful, but, you know.

Speaker 1 I felt his triceps. I felt his triceps.
And it felt him up. Yeah, because if you have no tricep, then there's no chance you could do it.
You know what I mean? It's a pectoral and tricep thing.

Speaker 1 So I'm like, if you have no tricep, he had a little tricep. I was like, okay, maybe he does push-ups at home or whatever that weird shit he does.
And it's so on is getting his arms strong.

Speaker 1 So I said, cool, let's go do it. And sure enough, Ian went down, down, took off his shirt, did his He-Man things, Hulk Hogan thing.

Speaker 1 He put up the blank bar. He put up 135.
We put the second plate on.

Speaker 1 He got it to his chest. He was able to lift it off the bar.
And then, how would you describe it? How would you describe the next 10 seconds, Joe? Get the shit off me.

Speaker 1 A lot of shaking and tribbling. A lot of shaking and trembling.
A lot of red, pink face. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. A lot of red.

Speaker 1 Yeah, red and pink face. A lot of getting up, saying, damn, I think I pulled something.

Speaker 1 He seems to have left, too. Yeah, no, he really said.

Speaker 1 We cleared him the fucking out of here. Well, that's the other thing.
I told him not to go down here and get involved with that hoot nanny because Ian done broke his clavicle or something.

Speaker 1 He had a couple shoulder shifts. He said he had three shoulder repair surgeries.
Yeah, so that was an instance where the risk is just not worth it. Not at all.
There was no point in doing it.

Speaker 1 So you know, men don't care about it. It's not over easy.
And he pulled something. And he pulled something.
He's fucked up now. You got a baby on the way.
You married.

Speaker 1 It's like, what are you doing, buddy? Yeah, yeah. Men don't care about none of that.
You got to know your worth. Well, it'd be a different thing if he

Speaker 1 lifted weights regularly. Not to say that I don't, I think he runs and stuff like that.
He said he lived in college. He said he ain't lift weights consistently.

Speaker 1 If you haven't done bench presses in a long time, jumping into 225 is crazy. So after that, Dr.
Mark

Speaker 1 gets on the bench. Yeah.
Throws it up. He threw it up.
And then after that, then it was a line now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And after that, Freeze went. I went.

Speaker 1 I did what I said I was going to do.

Speaker 2 You put it up, but then I got it.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I'm sorry. Before Mark Corey went.
I'm sorry. Of course.
Corey didn't count. Yeah.
And then Mark Corey.

Speaker 1 And if you hold it with one arm, you can adjust the rack. But this

Speaker 1 started curling and shit. I'm like, yo, man, put the bar down.
What the fuck are you doing? So it was Corey, then Mark, then Freeze, and then I had to go.

Speaker 1 Because Freeze threw it up to me with what looked like the ease.

Speaker 1 Like, Freeze just looked like he had that, I've been in the house strength, nigga, just mowing the lawn. Freeze with the 185.
He didn't get to the 255.

Speaker 1 Well, he picked it up. Oh, he got it off the chest.
I told y'all. He got it off the chest.

Speaker 1 I can put it off. Right.
But when it got to your chest. Nah.
No, it did get to your chest. No, I respect that.
Yeah, usually, I'm not going to get it. I told everybody off the rip.

Speaker 1 I just said I didn't. I didn't put it up.
Yeah, it never matters. I thought him throwing up the 185 was pretty impressive.
The 185 was impressive. That was impressive.

Speaker 1 You know how it counts? I did that a couple times. Yeah, okay.
Freeze got that head strength. Like, he's just pulling from his dome.

Speaker 1 That's where it's all. It's all up top, baby.
That nigga.

Speaker 1 It's all up top. So you binge pressed the 185.
Yes. Yeah.
But the 225. 225, I just.
All right, that's enough. Put that back.
He got that. Mama's going to be.
See if I can get it.

Speaker 1 Take the chicken out the freeze of strength, boy. He got that.
But the wild one. Banquet strips.

Speaker 1 Banquet chicken shit. Yeah, you better be in there at the moment.
Make sure your little brother eat the strips.

Speaker 1 He just an Alma.

Speaker 1 They got that good grade stretch.

Speaker 1 Nigga got that fucking straight A niggas that if they get into something

Speaker 1 look at freeze.

Speaker 1 Don't put that mic away from me, boy.

Speaker 1 Nigga got that fucking retired truck driver.

Speaker 1 Oldest security strips.

Speaker 1 Hanging TV strength. Yeah, that nigga got that fucking, goddamn, breeze.
Cable vision. That nigga could have been RoboCop in another life.

Speaker 1 And then Flip put it, Flip was like, but right before we walk out the door, Flip said, I'm going to do it too. Oh, really? Well, I always did 135.
No, no, but it don't matter. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 It's pretty good. It don't matter.
It wasn't just that you did what you, what you, you didn't try more.

Speaker 1 I think you could have done more because

Speaker 1 you had like a kind of reckless strength.

Speaker 1 There's another R1.

Speaker 1 Like a hall. There's a ray.
Like Tasmanian Devil.

Speaker 2 devil.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Sure.
No.

Speaker 1 You act kind of strength, but you didn't realize how strong you were.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 like the nigga that wore the helmet strength.

Speaker 1 Help me. Give me a shit.
This nigga, yo, we're not allowed to say, but like, I didn't say you had

Speaker 1 the niggas that they took the lunch from, nigga.

Speaker 1 You wasn't in that lunch from you in the back. That was in the back.

Speaker 1 You was in the back. I was in the head of your lunch from now.
You was in the back. You were portable.
You couldn't come out all day.

Speaker 1 Mommy, can I give hugs?

Speaker 1 You know what's on Satan?

Speaker 1 You can't say that. Let me go.

Speaker 1 Let me go now.

Speaker 1 You can't say that, bro. I know what you're talking about when the kids ask that shit.
You can't do that. Lord, bless him.
He don't know his own strength, Lord. Bless him.

Speaker 1 That's how he was. I think he'll pick the whole rack up.

Speaker 1 That's crazy, yo. Mommy, can I give hug?

Speaker 1 And they be missing, too.

Speaker 1 They be missing the hug. You gotta take it.
Oh, no, no, no. no, I'm right here, baby.
They be throwing a little dash to the little people's stroke.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 You don't let him say that? Like,

Speaker 1 you wanna let your man say that on this broadcast? Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Hold on.
This nigga's strong. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that nigga, he got died for real.

Speaker 1 You got under there? Yeah, he did. He did.
How bad. How bad, though.
What you pushed up? Flip like

Speaker 1 one off. Yeah, flip like what? Yeah, get your shit off.

Speaker 1 You gonna get it out of everybody. Yeah, get the shit off.
Put it like what?

Speaker 1 Don't back down now, 50.

Speaker 1 It's like when in the little shop of horrors, when the plant started just picking shit up.

Speaker 1 I might be too old for you on that reference. Nigga, we know about Seymour and all that shit, nigga.
Yeah, you got that type of strength. Like when the gremlin started wild.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, shit. Niggas ate after 12.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. These niggas mean business.

Speaker 1 Fucked up, y'all. Oh, these niggas mean business right here.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I got down there. I didn't even bother with that 225.
I'm not playing with them. Yeah, you ain't playing with them.
I'm not playing with them.

Speaker 1 But you said from the beginning, you weren't going to make no false promises about what you got. At all.
So, what you did?

Speaker 2 135.

Speaker 1 How many times?

Speaker 1 He did 185.

Speaker 1 135. Hold up for a second.

Speaker 1 Ma'am, you didn't go downstairs. How would you?

Speaker 2 Oh, no, I figured you started with 135 and then went up.

Speaker 1 All right. I'm going to get you.
I don't know what that published shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know what it was. One something.
What was it? 185. 185.
How many times?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Shit, once, nigga.

Speaker 1 Oh, all right. We weren't repping.
We were just trying to just. Is what you could do, Ish.

Speaker 1 Could you do that? 185? Yeah. I doubt it.
That's not true, Ish. You strong.
I don't know. I'm not.
Or you just haven't done it in a long time.

Speaker 1 I got it.

Speaker 1 Being pretty is

Speaker 1 hard enough, right?

Speaker 1 Pretty ishy.

Speaker 1 Walking down, machine.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to look at nigga. I know you're a little chick.
That's crazy. But that was fun, and nobody got hurt.
Hopefully, Ian's okay. Yeah, that was fun.
No, Ian pulled something. No, he really did.

Speaker 1 He did. And all jokes aside, he was like, yo,

Speaker 1 he put the 220. I thought he was fucked up.
No.

Speaker 1 He couldn't get that.

Speaker 1 He had some help. He needed help to get off his chest.

Speaker 1 Like, he'd still be there if we weren't, if he did it by himself.

Speaker 1 That's the worst. Getting caught under a bench.
Yolo? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That is not fucking good.
Good times, though. Yeah, that was fun.
Great times. I'm trying to find this smoke that I have for Mark Lamont.
I think it's right on at Mark Lamont Hill.

Speaker 1 Now, I got it right here. I got it right here.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. This is something that Mark Lamont retweeted from a friend of the show, Jay Will.
We fuck with Jay Will up here. That's my guy.
That's my guy.

Speaker 1 Absolutely love Jay Will.

Speaker 1 Jay Will said

Speaker 1 if LeBron or Steph dropped 61, 10, and 10 in a game game this time of year we'd shut down the internet yada yada yada yada yada uh let me get to the end uh

Speaker 1 espn would talk about it for two days straight but when joker does it it's just another night why because he doesn't look the part he's not flashy not loud but make no mistake skill for skill he's already outpacing shaq hakeem and even kareem

Speaker 1 we're just afraid to say it Joker isn't just the best player in the world. He's quietly building one of the greatest legacies we've ever seen.
And media is still acting like it's a fluke.

Speaker 1 And Mark Lamont took that and said,

Speaker 1 facts. I would agree with that.
And I couldn't believe that you said that. I agree with some of the.

Speaker 1 So I will say, in fairness, I didn't read all. I wouldn't read all that.
I was really fact in the first half of it, the if he dropped these big numbers and people bragging and talking about it.

Speaker 1 That I would say. To the second part.
Because I was ready to argue about the second part with you.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's wrong about the second part.

Speaker 1 I just don't think it matters. Statistically, he is outpacing Shaq in Elijah.
I just think it's a different era. And so it doesn't mean the same thing.

Speaker 1 It means absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 A perfect example is rebounding. Rebounds are a lot easier to get in today's NBA because a lot of teams, bigs, abandon the basket and go up the court.

Speaker 1 That's why you see a lot of point guards now averaging eight, nine rebounds a game. So Jokic's rebounds are not the same as Shaq's rebounds.

Speaker 1 If I had to pick a guy to win me a game right now, I'd still go with Shaq. Of course.
Of course. Not Jokic.
Of course you would. Right.

Speaker 1 But I do think that Jokic is so great and so extraordinary that now we act like the shit is normal.

Speaker 1 Because it's just like when James Harden and Russell Westbrook were getting triple doubles every night. We started acting like a triple double wasn't a big deal.

Speaker 1 And it's like, if they're that easy to get, other people would get them. Exactly.
The league's changed. It's easier than in the 50s, but it ain't or the 80s.

Speaker 1 Shaq averaged 23.7 points a game in his long career

Speaker 1 and 10.9 rebounds per game, if I'm reading this correctly. Joker is at 20.9 and 10.7.
So where exactly is he on

Speaker 1 pace to out?

Speaker 1 I don't think that's right, but

Speaker 1 if you look at their prime years.

Speaker 1 I think if you looked at their prime years, it'd be even worse for Joker. I know.

Speaker 1 I think Mark and Jay Will and a few other people

Speaker 1 may be falling for just modern-day recency bias with this Joker shit because, like you said, we're in a different league and he's doing some shit. And today, the term two-way player exists.

Speaker 1 I like Joker too. I'm talking about a day where that era, that term didn't exist because you had to play on both sides.

Speaker 1 It averaged 21.8 and 11.1.

Speaker 1 The Joker to me is too obsolete on one side of the floor for me to start putting him in the same ballpark as Shaq and Hakeem. I like Joker.

Speaker 1 I think him not looking the part and being an overlooked thing is absolutely broad. Let me ask you a question.
You don't fuck with Kareem? Why you made it? No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Kareem for me is Kareem is my GOAT. Let me ask you a question.
But let me say this real quick before you do this.

Speaker 1 I think the thing about Jokic that people are forgetting, one, his efficiency is crazy.

Speaker 1 You've never seen a center put up those numbers that he puts up and shoot the three ball and give you, and damn near lead the league in assists.

Speaker 1 So you might have, even if Shaq averages four more points a game, there's 20 more points coming out of assists that Jokic is giving you. He directs the floor.
He's the point center. He's the pivot.

Speaker 1 He's the ball. He can't jump high enough for you to put paper under his feet.
He's slow as shit and he's running the breaks.

Speaker 1 We've never seen this. There's no sense.

Speaker 1 He's like run fast breaks, bro. Well, we weren't allowed to see that.
But that's part of the era changing. We weren't allowed to see that.

Speaker 1 No, No, nobody was talented enough to do that. That's not true.
That's not true.

Speaker 1 That's not true. Nameless.
That's not true what you're saying. I'm asking y'all.

Speaker 1 Will Chamberlain was talented enough to do that? And he did it. Will Chamberlain did not handle the ball enough to handle the ball in the business.
He led the league in assists.

Speaker 1 Bro,

Speaker 1 the assists is different. If you want to talk about rebounds, it's different.
The assists was different back then. Yeah, I think they were harder to get.
I think Shaq played point in high school.

Speaker 1 You are wrong. Shaq handled the ball and passed the ball in high school.
I am not wrong. So find another.
He played the point. All right, so maybe you didn't play the point.

Speaker 1 He handled the ball and passed the ball in high school. David Robinson flew like a fucking pornography.
David Robinson was another guy. David Robinson would be in that toy.

Speaker 1 David Robinson wasn't a David Robinson grew like a foot in a year. So it's like saying AD is now a four.
That's what Cat was. He wasn't a four when he just saying that people.

Speaker 1 David Robinson was very athletic to move around. Yeah, I'm just saying.
Those people would not be allowed to be aware of that. Derrick Coleman.

Speaker 1 It's a different era.

Speaker 1 I don't like to compare errors because who knows what Kareem would be if he played in this era with this style of basketball? Who knows what Giannis would be 30 years ago?

Speaker 1 You know, we see that debate all the time. 250 points.
Bro, stay in this era.

Speaker 1 But what I'm saying is, Jokic, what I'm saying is the particular skill set that he has in this era,

Speaker 1 we haven't seen before. Sir, that's fine.
You still can't come in this room with your one-ring having ass. You can't come over here.
Your name ain't even to be mentioned with the Shaqs.

Speaker 1 How many he needs before he can be in the conversation, though? More than one. Because Walk only got two.

Speaker 1 And he's in the conversation, right? Dave Robinson only got two and he's in the conversation. So I'm just saying, if he has one more, is he in in the conversation? Yes.

Speaker 1 Hey, yo, fam, if you are a center and you averaging a triple-double, that is something to be said about. Absolutely.
And Joker's incredible. Like, yo, I don't think we say that enough as all the same.

Speaker 1 And y'all, LeBron's incredible, and he's stat passed. Yo, how?

Speaker 1 Bro, I don't think he's stat passing.

Speaker 1 I just think he watches basketball too much to say he's stat pattern because he's not.

Speaker 1 He's not stat patting.

Speaker 1 No, he doesn't play defense. Yeah, I don't know what he's saying.
So even if he's not, that's the knockout. When he's not playing defense,

Speaker 1 he don't see nobody kill him.

Speaker 1 If he's not playing defense, the nigga that he's guarding don't get points.

Speaker 1 No, that's not true. And B gets busy over there.
That's not true. Yo, nobody can stop Joelle and B.
Keep going.

Speaker 1 Because there aren't that many good sinners in the Nellie. That's what I'm saying.
If somebody has a defensive liability, today's NBA will exploit your defensive deficiency.

Speaker 1 I've seen mad game winners on the nuggets happen on Joker's Watch.

Speaker 1 Mad of them.

Speaker 1 What I'm telling you is, niggas not exploiting them. But I don't want to.
Listen, we'll get to this later. A.D.
wasn't exploiting them. We'll get to this later.
We'll get to this later.

Speaker 1 No, AD wasn't exploiting them. And AD's offense is amazing.
Okay, we'll get to this. We'll get to this.

Speaker 1 Escalated quickly. Yeah, yeah.
Not at all. We're having a sports conversation.
That's what men do. I'm saying that niggas don't be born together.

Speaker 1 There's a lady here, and Flip is here. No, it's like we don't want to.
It's okay now. We're fine.
No, no, we're in a picture. He's got a toy.
He brought out a sword.

Speaker 1 I got my toys.

Speaker 1 To wear the sword was. That's funny.
That's crazy. Y'all keep making fun.
Y'all gotta stop that, man.

Speaker 1 What else is in music? Tommy Carl. That's where it needs our attention.

Speaker 1 Do y'all want to talk about the Drake leaks at all?

Speaker 1 Can I hear it, please? Drake leaks at all. I didn't listen to it.
Oh, but please.

Speaker 1 I don't trust leaks anymore.

Speaker 1 I run from leaks just because I don't know what's real anymore.

Speaker 1 He's back on the wagon. You got all three songs? It's my touch.

Speaker 1 I'm not playing all of them. Yeah, I heard one.
One of them. He's back on the wagon.
Let's go, boy. All right, let's see.
Here we have Shopping Spree. Oh, they took it down.

Speaker 1 Oh, they took it down. Hold up.
They don't play. Oh, they took all these shits down.
Yeah, it's over.

Speaker 1 It's over. I'll get on fast.
I guess that means. Does that mean they were real?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 they were definitely real. Yeah, that was close.
So I was saying AI. It was him.
No, it was him. I heard one of them, and he was going.

Speaker 1 They're rappy?

Speaker 1 Which one was a good one, Joe? Rappy? All of them were good. Really? And all straight rapping, not the sing-songy stuff?

Speaker 1 One of them was sing-songy, but it was good. One was rapping, but it was hard, and it was good.
And another one was,

Speaker 1 they all were good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when he rap, he's excellent.

Speaker 1 He's a brave. They all were good.
He's dope when he does sing-songy shit. It's just a little bit of a drop.
I might be undopping. I might be under.
I'm telling them. They were good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the one I heard, it was good. I listened to it multiple times.
I listened to it once. I heard it all the way through.

Speaker 1 He was gone. Yeah, I'd be scared to leak.

Speaker 2 Do you think the leak was intentional, intentional, though?

Speaker 1 That'd be my question. Of course, I don't think so if they struck it.
I think that's his new trick, is to leak it and strike it. Leak it.
Leak it. Leak it.
See what happened.

Speaker 1 I think it's a market research.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I think. I think you throw it out there and you see if the current climate is coming back around to receiving you.
Because I think at one point, it didn't matter what he put out.

Speaker 1 They were just shitting on him. Well, I mean, the leaks were cool.
I wanted to talk to y'all about, and one of them, he said,

Speaker 1 Cade left his Crocs.

Speaker 1 Cade Cunningham left his Crocs, and I fucked you in them.

Speaker 1 Who's Cade Cunningham? Cade Cunningham went for the departing guard for the distance. That you think he's too young for you.

Speaker 1 Or not?

Speaker 1 Stop it, y'all. Don't be silly.

Speaker 1 Leave her alone now. Mel cannot date Cade Cunningham.
Y'all crazy ass. She's crazy as hell.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to show you. She doesn't want to date him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I don't like how they just did that. Mel? What y'all doing?

Speaker 1 24. No, he went to college for a year.
He's 23, going on 24.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's too young.

Speaker 1 Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 I'll accept you guys' apologies. Yeah, he's like that.
I'll accept you guys' apologies. Thank you very much, Antoine.

Speaker 1 Mel. Yes.

Speaker 2 Next year.

Speaker 2 Don't say the amount of money. It don't matter.
He is a child.

Speaker 1 Let's go, Mel. Let's go.
Stand on it, nigga. You get to the break.

Speaker 1 Listen, I did come together. You got to build this, nigga.
I got to build this.

Speaker 2 I'm going to math as to what I would feel.

Speaker 1 Way all over.

Speaker 2 And I feel like the youngest I would feel comfortable with.

Speaker 1 30.

Speaker 1 28, 29. Oh, you're going to? Oh,

Speaker 1 Leo.

Speaker 1 Okay, do you know what it is?

Speaker 1 Leo. Leo, Mel DiCaprio.

Speaker 1 Let Joe finish. No, I'm throwing it to issue.
Oh. I'm not doing this.
What?

Speaker 1 I ain't.

Speaker 1 Say it with me. Get the questions out.

Speaker 1 Super Max. Super Max.
You know what a Super Max is? Yeah. You know what? A dollar amount on the Super Max?

Speaker 1 I don't think that's like 300. I don't think that's fair when men do that to women.
Yeah, it's a thing. It's not.
I don't think it's fair when women do that. I agree.
Let me get in my mark back.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's fair. I'm now, I'm doing it still.

Speaker 1 So you're doing it for

Speaker 1 content purposes. But I don't think that's fair when niggas do that.
Got it. That's not right, because it's like projection almost.
Like, we want that.

Speaker 1 It's like it's almost to say, like,

Speaker 1 we would do it, so you would do it.

Speaker 2 Very much so. Man.
Very much so. You guys really act like if you had vaginas, you would just be letting the lips just flap all over the fucking place.

Speaker 2 Like you wouldn't have any respect for it whatso ever.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 wouldn't that be totally fine? Do I get to do it? Well, first of all, I already said I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 I said that already.

Speaker 1 Two, do I get to do it under the same guise and veil that most women do it where it gets to be like unspoken about, like secret society where nobody could talk about my wholeness and how many mouths I put on my pussy?

Speaker 1 Because if nobody could ever say nothing about it, then you're definitely doing it. 1,000%.
Are you crazy?

Speaker 1 The same rules apply. And if I catch one of these little younglies, anyway, I'm projecting again.

Speaker 1 What were we talking about?

Speaker 1 Fuck. Superman's.
No, we wouldn't talk about that no more. No.

Speaker 1 We talked about the Drake leak. Oh, Drake.
Where does the Drake leak?

Speaker 2 And he mentions the guy.

Speaker 1 You can't talk about it, but I just thought it was a little bit of a hard time. Yeah,

Speaker 1 right. Freeze get on it.
You can't say I'm sitting in Kay Cunningham's locker

Speaker 1 at the palace or whatever the shit is in Detroit now. Shout out to the D.

Speaker 1 And Cade left his Crocs in here, so I took him, and now I'm fucking this girl in the Crocs. He said it was in the locker room? He's yeah, he said he was sitting in the locker.

Speaker 1 I guess he had a game in there or whatever. Who knows? And he said, was sitting in Cade's locker and he said Cade left his Crocs.

Speaker 1 So he said he took him. I got a hairy.
And then he fucked home girl. I'm not putting sauce on it.
He says that verbatim. I just fucked your bitch.
Yeah, that ain't that flops. That's different.

Speaker 1 I fucked your chick in another nigga Crocs. It's not the same as I fucked her in some shit.
I thought you said she put the Crocs on. No, him.

Speaker 1 See what I'm saying? It's a little different. issue.

Speaker 1 That's your man. That's different.
I don't understand why I would want to tell somebody I did this unless I'm fucking Cade's girl. That's the only way it makes sense to me.

Speaker 1 How do you explain? Because why do this other girl care what Crocs you got on? And why you got Crocs on? That's funny. That's funny.

Speaker 1 Were they in sport mode or not? Because that's important.

Speaker 1 It's funny. You know what?

Speaker 1 It matters.

Speaker 1 If he popped Cade girl and put it in a song, I think it's corny. I think that's horrible.
But if he. How old is his girl? I don't know.
Cade's girl. All right, we just gossiping.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't know nothing. But if Cade got a girl, we don't know if he popped Cade girl.
Got it, got it. Okay.
No, you said that. I know.
Yeah, but no. But we don't know.
Shit.

Speaker 1 I'm just theorizing to why this line would make sense. This is.
I got to hear it because to me,

Speaker 1 it might be funny. None of the circumstances make it make sense to me.
Yeah, it might be funny. I can't think of no condition where you should say that.
I gotta hear it out loud.

Speaker 1 But it is a good sign if you're a Drake fan.

Speaker 1 It is a good sign if you're a Drake fan. I'm not going to lie to you.
If he's sneaking the sassy bars back on for fire, I'm with that. Like fire, fire, and he back then doing,

Speaker 1 they're a good sign. It's all I'm saying.
Stupid. It's a perfect time.
It's a good sign. Summertime Drake.
It's perfect time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I ain't thinking about that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Going to eat a couple of those. He'll be back on top soon.
I'm looking forward to it. Absolutely.
Ooh. Summertime, Drizzy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 look at your shit. Do I want to be phony? Look at your man.
I got to figure out how I'm going to pause this summer.

Speaker 1 He jumped right on the body. Do I want to continue to be against him and everything he does and stands for? Or do I want to be phony? You can be phony.
You want to be phony. If the slappers

Speaker 1 are slapping and you outside.

Speaker 1 I stand for the music.

Speaker 1 I don't really care for these niggas. I hate all these niggas.
I'm on the side of the music. Once I get the music in my.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna lie. We got a shower the other night.

Speaker 1 The last shit came on the party. They played some of them in songs.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna say it. I ain't ready to be phony yet.
I do have the three snippets. Oh, you got them? There's Shop and Spree.
Shop and Spree is the one. Cheerios, and then there's

Speaker 1 21 Savage. I gotta hear this.
I think Shop and Spree is the Cadillac. I heard the Cheerios one.
The whole song I heard the Spring Spring.

Speaker 1 Or they, I think they say Shop and Spree is actually called Bar Harbor now or something. But

Speaker 1 oh, that's where you go shopping at.

Speaker 1 Sounds fancy.

Speaker 2 Bow Harbor? My job. It's expensive expensive as fuck.

Speaker 1 I really feel like our count faster than any other.

Speaker 1 And that's bad.

Speaker 1 Nigga, putting niggas' bitches on the

Speaker 1 crap.

Speaker 1 Somebody's sick hearing this already. I feel like our count faster.

Speaker 1 Somebody recognizes it.

Speaker 1 I'ma kill you, bitch.

Speaker 1 I'ma kill you.

Speaker 1 Hey, Bow Harbor, shopping spree, hop on top of me

Speaker 1 Do some shit for you for once you do a lot for me

Speaker 1 I was fuckin' with it, yeah, I gotta live with me Real shit, real shit, real shit, real shit

Speaker 1 Yup, hop on top of me, do some shit for you for once you do a lot of me

Speaker 1 I was fuckin' with that real, I got a lot of me Real shit, real shit, real shit, real shit

Speaker 1 Everything is earned in this life, baby, nothing get hurt you miss me

Speaker 1 Pause this.

Speaker 1 Cade left his crocs here.

Speaker 1 Forget his crib? He was in the pistons locker. He was in the pistons locker room.

Speaker 1 He said, I was in the pistons locker room. I went in the pistons locker room.
I'm on another mission.

Speaker 1 Cade left his crocs here. And I'll fuck you up.

Speaker 1 I just want this to make sense. This shit crazy.
This shit sounds wild to me. You light skin, make this make sense.
That's what I'm trying to say. Like, you gotta.

Speaker 1 I don't get that. I know how y'all think.

Speaker 1 No, those are nice crocs. You album.
I'll take them.

Speaker 1 Was it like the Malenciaga Crocs? Was it the Salahi Crocs? Like,

Speaker 1 I'll be uncertain.

Speaker 1 I'll be big.

Speaker 1 Niggas like, I'll be uncertain. I'll be.
I'm on the fence.

Speaker 1 I'll be eh.

Speaker 1 I'll be.

Speaker 1 unsure.

Speaker 1 That's funny.

Speaker 1 That was very funny.

Speaker 1 That's it. Go ahead.
That's it. I don't know.
Fuck you asking me for. He don't know.
He's crazy. I was looking for the translation.

Speaker 1 Don't get it. Yeah, I don't understand.
But the flow is crazy. I liked it.

Speaker 1 I like that a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You want to play Cheerios? I'm going to play the rest of the angle. No, the Cheerios.
Can't play him for long. The Cheerios is right.
The Cheerios is the one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know. Yeah, press the sound effects.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to drop some bars.
No, we just got to talk over over it. Don't see it looking so fast.

Speaker 1 This is Cheerios.

Speaker 1 That's the one I heard.

Speaker 1 Got a back glove on. He don't hold it in the hand.
You can cut this off.

Speaker 1 You can cut this off.

Speaker 1 That's the one I heard. That sounds tough.
You like crazy shit.

Speaker 1 Yep. That's the drink I want to eat.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, nigga. Come on.
That That one, though.

Speaker 1 I did that one mixed and mastered ASAP. Look what y'all did.

Speaker 1 Friday.

Speaker 1 Look what you did, problem.

Speaker 1 Look what they did.

Speaker 1 Kick drinking, y'all.

Speaker 1 That made him man.

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 1 Bit Steve!

Speaker 1 That right there? That came on like something. That right there.
How'd the last one sound?

Speaker 1 The last one is Wait Dex Hell with 21 Savage.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know what Tommy News.

Speaker 1 You ain't even gotta play nothing. You ain't gotta say no.

Speaker 1 You hear what's going on on this.

Speaker 1 Spooky movie. Niggas don't play on that spooky movie stuff.

Speaker 2 Took a deep breath, let it exhale. Drizzy always gotta do it big like an exhale.

Speaker 2 Birds, they gon' chirp like a Next Tail.

Speaker 1 Bye-bye. Only fucked on her just because sex has.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Bye-bye.

Speaker 1 Bye-bye. When that's mixed and mastery.
Yeah. And handed to the right person.
There you go. Well, you know, Savage is going to get on there and do what he does.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you know,

Speaker 1 that's a Savage Beat.

Speaker 1 That's a Savage Beat. Yeah, that's a Savage Beat.

Speaker 1 Sounded pretty good. Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 All right, Kendrick Future

Speaker 1 Weekend Metro.

Speaker 1 Who else? Y'all niggas? Ross, Ross, Rocky. Who else? Joe Thomas.

Speaker 1 Ooh, Rocky. I ain't forget about you.
You beat your case. Get over here.
Joe Thomas? God damn, Joe Thomas.

Speaker 1 He got got something for Joe Thomas.

Speaker 1 What are you mad at?

Speaker 1 I want to know what he did.

Speaker 1 They're going to drop a scary house pack soon as we finish recording.

Speaker 1 The thoughts, views.

Speaker 1 That's going to be right in the beginning of the season. Back to doing that.

Speaker 1 I'm back for a couple of months.

Speaker 1 Listen, we just went to music. We're not all the way back.

Speaker 1 Slaps.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to get my OBO hoodie or anything.

Speaker 1 The cape, you're not going to go get the cape, but

Speaker 1 stupid, yo. Yo, I could hear those outside.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. I can hear it.
I'm telling you, Cheerio shit go.

Speaker 1 I ain't know they,

Speaker 1 you know, I don't know how that leak and all that other shit go, but that I heard the whole song.

Speaker 1 That boy was just waiting for one to catch off, boy. He's just waiting on it.
He's just waiting on a little Nokia.

Speaker 1 So I run behind it. Run behind it.
Yo. Where the fuck the function?

Speaker 1 If I'm party, I'm very tight at Nokia. Why? Wow.

Speaker 1 Nigga, don't stop.

Speaker 1 It's on our joint album. My name ain't nowhere on this.

Speaker 1 And this is the record that's shooting up the charts. It's going crazy.
You stealing my take.

Speaker 1 You said that? Yes. Oh, my fault.
I'm sorry. I'm going to be listening when you talk.
He ain't getting spanky for it.

Speaker 1 He's not getting spanky for it? For that song? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is he even in the video? It's his album. He got to be in.
Some spanky for it. My bad.
I know you said that, but I saw the shit yesterday because it's number three. Would you be mad?

Speaker 1 Your song, your album, you're not on it. It's shooting up the charts.

Speaker 1 Like in real life, if I was getting paid, would you be mad?

Speaker 1 If I'm him. I think he should be mad.
Yeah, if I'm him. Because just because of how it's always been the whole, damn, dog, I do this, you steal it from me.

Speaker 1 It's always been that narrative around him and his music with dude. So if I'm him, I'm very tight.
I don't know. We got a joint project

Speaker 1 on that song. Yeah.
That's the point I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 1 I think it's a personal thing. Everybody.

Speaker 1 Somebody got points on other shit that he wrote that he got already. And he might not have been mad.
I was mad when M took me off the Slaughterhouse intro for the second album. Fixed that, though.

Speaker 1 I was mad. That was fucked up.
I believe you. That's a little different.
That's a little damn. Damn.
Hold up. Hold on.
That was a rapping song. Now, had that song made $10 million.
That was our album.

Speaker 1 True. It's the intro.
And it wasn't the single. But it's the first song you plus play on when you put the Slaughterhouse shit out.
That's what made it a song.

Speaker 1 And it was a very Joe Button song. And Joe Button made Slaughterhouse.

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 Fark's like, I ain't mad.

Speaker 1 Real shit. That's why I got so mad.
I got mad like, I got taken off that record.

Speaker 1 I told them niggas, I said, yo, I'm not going to hold y'all. This the day that that album drops, I'm putting out the verse with the version with Joe's verse on it.

Speaker 1 And I did that shit like album, maybe like four hours later. Yep, here go.

Speaker 1 I don't care. Yeah, that'd be sick.

Speaker 2 What was the response?

Speaker 1 No, what was the rationale behind taking you off? So I was too long to think, right?

Speaker 1 Too long. Maybe I was whack.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Quality bars. You cannot look like a team player.
No, you're right.

Speaker 1 So it don't matter. You can't go there.
Hey, why was it me? It don't matter, nigga. It was you.
I remember did they leave you little ad-libs like Inspector Duck? Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 Inspect the duck at the end of the Tupac song. You trying to make me mad.
I am. Nah, that was bullshit.
That bullshit right there. That was bullshit.
I'm with you. That was bullshit.
I was heated.

Speaker 1 If I'm I'm party, I would be mad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 As an artist, you'd be mad a little bit.

Speaker 1 But what if Drake comes in with a song, it's already done, but I want to put on this album. And you'll still get points.
Because you know this. You don't have nothing to do with this song.

Speaker 1 This is a gift. Why do you all be mad, but you'll still be...
It's like a fourth person coming in and taking somebody out the threesome.

Speaker 1 That's what it's like. Not if they my two.

Speaker 1 This is your threesome. You in here.
You and two other people. Y'all about to get busy.
Here comes somebody, executive producing the threesome. They're coming in, eh, this would be better without you.

Speaker 1 But look,

Speaker 1 you get the fuck out of this room right now. But to Parks' point, let's say he already had the song done, and I just wanted to put that on this project to get it out to the world.

Speaker 1 And you're getting your points.

Speaker 1 Now it's a threesome where they both my Yamines, and I'm just letting you come in here and get. And it's still my work, though.
Yeah. And it's your first number one or top 10 or whatever.

Speaker 1 And you're not even on it. That's the hardest thing.
That's all I'm saying. That's like they talk about this.

Speaker 1 They're talking about Nokia got potential to go to to number one in the next couple weeks. No, that's tough.

Speaker 1 From an artistic standpoint, that's tough. That's all I'm saying.
That's tough. Actually, maybe if I'm party, I'm not mad.
But

Speaker 1 some niggas don't care about playing Robin, bro. Everybody don't got to be back.
But the difference between my slaughterhouse situation and his situation is, like Par said, it was an intro.

Speaker 1 This is a hit single that potentially can be remixed shortly. So

Speaker 1 I ain't going to go piss the nigga off.

Speaker 1 That's true. I ain't going to go piss the nigga off or fight with him over what could be a bigger bag potentially.
I'm not even saying about fighting or nothing like that.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying sitting there at home by yourself, you probably feel away. Oh, I would feel away.
No, if I'm sitting home, that's all I'm feeling away by myself.

Speaker 1 When I wake up tomorrow or the next day, somebody's gonna feel it with me.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I'm not gonna be the only

Speaker 1 feeling this guy. That's short-sighted.
Like you said, baby, he knows, yo, we could do this, this could happen, that could happen, so let me not fuck nothing up.

Speaker 1 But behind closed doors, I'm a little tight. Well, I said somebody.
I might not tell it to Drake. Okay.

Speaker 2 You don't think that they had these conversations prior to the song even coming out?

Speaker 1 With what the

Speaker 2 additional plans are for it?

Speaker 1 Tell us, tell us.

Speaker 1 Why don't you let us know? Niggas from the 60s. That's a question.

Speaker 1 I don't think that he thought that sounds like a song. I don't think it was going to be hit like that at first.

Speaker 1 Don't get me. I think everyone thought that's what I was saying.
Yeah, because as soon as we heard it, that's true. That's not what I'm saying.
My first one said I was like,

Speaker 1 I don't think he thought it was going to be a hit first. Same thing with the Got Me and My Fin the Kiki shit.
Like, some of these songs, I don't think he thought that song was going to go like that.

Speaker 1 I think you're wrong.

Speaker 1 My thing is, if I'm home and I'm party

Speaker 1 and my points are coming in, and I got paid, and I'm in some big ass house,

Speaker 1 I can get over it. Nah, but sometimes, like, I mean, I'm not an artist, but I know that sometimes when you contribute to things, it's not, even if you still get paid for it, it's the look.
I agree.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? From an artistic standpoint, but also now this is a part of my resume. So now the look that this has afforded me makes my price go up on everything else.

Speaker 1 And now I could be a part of other shit and I can use this as the

Speaker 1 you know. So he said wherever he was at recently, Party, that he did perform Nokia, like without Drake.

Speaker 1 And remember that Party is a writer first. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he might look at it

Speaker 1 a little different. He might take the writer stance and be like,

Speaker 1 I wrote it. I wrote it.

Speaker 1 Although he said, I don't think he's credited the songwriter of this.

Speaker 1 But he made

Speaker 1 something.

Speaker 1 I wrote this album. I'm on this album.
Yeah, for sure. It's your album.
You did this. I did joints with Rihanna.
Like, I'm chilling. Bro, if this song goes the number one for seven weeks.

Speaker 1 Then what dance are you going to do? It's Party's album. Yeah, but that's just a song.
And Party's not credited on this at all, even under the song.

Speaker 1 I remember the thing when they were talking about Drake's number ones, right? And

Speaker 1 people saying, why didn't Sickle mode count in his list of number ones? Because it doesn't even say featuring drugs. Remember that?

Speaker 1 But what? You're talking about one side of the record. And there's two sides of a record that generate money.
There's the master recording and there's the songwriting and publishing.

Speaker 1 Even if you're not getting any points on the songwriting and publishing because you're not on the song, you may still be getting points because it's on your album. You're a featured artist.

Speaker 1 You're not a featured artist. It's on your album.
So if the song goes number one, just the song, I'm not talking about the album already did its number one on release.

Speaker 1 That number one song is going to continue to drive people to my album. Yeah.
And I'm going to get points off the sales of that record. Off that record.
Yes. All right.
See, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 That was my question. It's his album.
So I would assume. Because I look at even when it comes to

Speaker 1 the contract. But if you go on the anywhere and search it,

Speaker 1 there's two sides to a record. Just Drake.
There's publishing and there's Master. I got you.
So if you're getting points as an artist because it's on my album, he's still getting money off it.

Speaker 1 And I still want to get a lot of money. That's more money than me.

Speaker 1 Well, what dance are you going to do when it comes on in the summertime? One leg with the one. You're fresh off the bike.
Nah, fresh off the bike. Nah, nah.

Speaker 1 You got to do the hill talk. Just because you

Speaker 1 to know Kill.

Speaker 1 You got to.

Speaker 1 And who do you think you're talking to? I think you should just do wheelies. You don't understand.

Speaker 1 What's going on on my phone?

Speaker 1 And that's your bag because

Speaker 1 you love to talk with the phone.

Speaker 1 That's his bad. That's funny, sir.

Speaker 1 Tell me where's the fun, Sean?

Speaker 1 Where's the fun? Yeah, that's funny, yo. Yeah, you always think somebody's trying to be funny.

Speaker 1 You seen me dance to a song before? Yes.

Speaker 1 You be doing that shit.

Speaker 1 You be getting crazy.

Speaker 1 There's nothing wrong with this. Look at you.
You can dance. But wait, you in the dark.
You see me dance to a song?

Speaker 1 You didn't say that this shit was crazy.

Speaker 1 Yes, he's niggas. Like, I dance.
You're like the grumpiest man on earth. You like my dad now.

Speaker 1 Chill out. It's all right.
I seen you dance to a song. You probably did.
When I seen you fuck that tall girl on the waterbed.

Speaker 1 Yo, boy. You never seen it?

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 You watched watch? I was right there. That nigga was mad.

Speaker 1 No, if you fucked up. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 He's going to be right there. He come with a cup.

Speaker 1 He's going to be right there.

Speaker 1 If you fucking anywhere,

Speaker 1 and he's not hiding. Nothing is a secret about this.
Y'all are so close to gay.

Speaker 1 Y'all are right there.

Speaker 1 This nigga don't play.

Speaker 1 This nigga does not play.

Speaker 1 Last week, y'all taking off your shirts. I mean, y'all be happy.
Who took off that shirt? You and him. I'm hoodie, nigga.
I ain't getting my shit. That's a distinction without a difference.

Speaker 1 I think that's hoping. Y'all are just robing.
I think that's homophobic.

Speaker 1 I think that's homophobic.

Speaker 1 You don't even do what you're doing. No, I want you to come out so we can embrace you.

Speaker 1 Now you're trying to out people.

Speaker 1 Now you're trying to out them. You're forcing the age on out niggas.
Wow. I'm not trying to out them.

Speaker 1 I think when they decided to have an underwear comparison on set, that was kind of them self-outing. So you think only gay men do that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I do. And I'm comfortable saying that.
It's not true. If they had sex with each other, it should be a shit.
They would be less gay than what they do on set.

Speaker 1 See, that's why CNN is the hand of this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He went in here with strong opinions.

Speaker 1 That's exactly. And I think they should burn it at.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Come, come.
Yeah. Let me show you what you do.
Let me burn this email.

Speaker 1 Let me send this fiery email to you.

Speaker 1 We'll hear about the side door. Courtesy of

Speaker 1 Mr. Hill.
Yeah, fuck.

Speaker 1 Speaking of gay men. What? Where are we, though? Why do we got sexy? Okay, go on.

Speaker 1 Have you a moment? Have you a moment? Go ahead. No, no, it was just interesting.
On Reddit, I saw a couple of lists of gay men ranking the sexiest men on the JBP. Oh, really? You sold it.
Wait, what?

Speaker 1 Which Reddit? You know, it was a few Reddits. It was a few Reddits.
It was the JVP Reddit. It wasn't like a few.
It's a few JB Reddits. It was a freaky Reddits, yeah.
It's a few JBP Reddits.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to read this list to you. Why?

Speaker 1 Please do. I'm not in your phone.
Because I sent it to my wife because I was upset. Oh.
Wow, you came in last?

Speaker 1 Third to last, yeah. Yo, that's crazy.
Number one was Imani.

Speaker 1 Number two was Joe.

Speaker 1 Number three was King Wawa over here.

Speaker 1 Number four was Flip.

Speaker 1 No, nigga.

Speaker 1 No. Number five was Ice.
That's gay. I don't like it.
Number six was Corey.

Speaker 1 Number seven was Kino.

Speaker 1 Number eight was Mark. Parentheses, depending on his haircut, could move up.
Parks, depending on his hair day, he could move up. And then Ian could move up depending on what he wears for the day.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, I think part of it is just reading who's available and who's not. Depending Depending on what gel you got in that day.
You know what I mean? You get the Superman curl. You lost five.

Speaker 1 I'm okay with my rankings.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take no offense. You don't want to be fired?

Speaker 1 I was going to say this for Patreon, but it just seemed to flow naturally at this moment. You don't want to be fired.
So I just want y'all to know where you rank. And Flip, I was very proud of you.

Speaker 1 I don't want to do good on no list where he is one on.

Speaker 1 Why are you proud of me, Flamar? Yeah, you jealous of E on the gay rankings? No, but I am now that you said it.

Speaker 1 I know how the game goes. Yeah, that's crazy.
Because how you responded to it. You didn't, you didn't, you know what I mean? Like, it's a mature, healthy response.
People make lists.

Speaker 1 You know what's funny about you? Now that I know you be on the Reddits, so you didn't see the Reddit of the Mark Hive. No.

Speaker 1 You didn't see the Reddit of

Speaker 1 the lady saying,

Speaker 1 hey, y'all, can I just be honest as a woman? Can I speak to the women of the JBP? Oh, Lord. And then I clicked on it, of course, because I'm a woman.

Speaker 1 I'm a messy bitch.

Speaker 1 They were calling me, so click, click.

Speaker 1 Amen.

Speaker 1 And they said, I just want to be honest with y'all. Dr.
Mark Lamont? And then it was like 150 push underneath of the women saying that Dr. Mark Lamont has come in here and just put it all to shame.

Speaker 1 So you number one on

Speaker 1 a lot of.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. They start talking about that PhD shit.

Speaker 1 I don't read that. A couple of them said, hey, if he just the pants get one size bigger than I'm there.

Speaker 1 They was in there.

Speaker 1 Sorry, girl.

Speaker 1 But they were singing your praises in there. Oh, that's all love.
I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
But I just thought this list was fascinating. Nah, nah.
Take me off that list. Yeah, take it.

Speaker 1 We want to be on that list. I'll tell him Monty.
I'm sure he'll be happy. Well, that's fair.

Speaker 1 Yo, y'all ain't shit. Am I lying? Yeah, no, fuck that.
I'm mad. You know what? Actually, right.
No, you love you. No, let me tell y'all something.
Tell them, but don't tell them who made the list.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you, Moni.

Speaker 1 You do that with a puppy. You know what?

Speaker 1 Let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 You with these people with these lists. I tell you.

Speaker 1 He's talking with him.

Speaker 1 Yo, you might have sit down.

Speaker 1 We're going to say this to where he's here. We're going to say this to the way he actually.

Speaker 1 I roast him when he's here. But yeah, I just wanted to share that shit.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious. That's Joe Holly.
Come on, get me off that list, please, y'all. Listen, I'm going to be extremely unattractive.
You're loved to flip. You shouldn't, you should appreciate it.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Embrace it, man.
They love you. Nope.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Just relax and embrace it. Peace.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. They said it to the nigga in Shaw Shack Redemption, remember?

Speaker 1 I never saw it, but I'll get your point. Oh, yeah.
You never saw Shaw Shack Remember. We're not doing this again.
We did it right now. No, we did that, okay.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Took his black heart?

Speaker 1 That's. Come on.

Speaker 1 It's a great card. A gray card? Yeah.
You good, man. You still got the black one.

Speaker 2 You still haven't watched it?

Speaker 1 I just haven't had it. I should have watched that instead of yours the other day.
That was the last thing I had to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, clean it up, nigga. Clean it up.
She heard that.

Speaker 1 Clean it up.

Speaker 2 Now you got the fucking sound effect.

Speaker 1 Now you got the fucking sound effect. You know who heard that, Mark? Yeah, beat it up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Clean it up. You should have watched Sean Shank and all that whole nigga.
Yeah, clean it up, nigga. Roots.

Speaker 1 Roots. All that.
Clean it up. You came over here.
I watched your movie. What's that? Yeah, you thought niggas was to listen to.
Clean that shit up now, nigga.

Speaker 1 I know, yeah.

Speaker 1 How you been moving? It was wonderful. You know who was crazy.
Surprisingly, you were amazing. Like, nigga, yeah.
She was. I know.
Yeah, salute. And I was sitting back like this, counting the time.

Speaker 1 Do you remember?

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 I trumped that story with another story, so nobody saw that. The movie shit.
Nobody was focused on the movie shit. Oh, yeah, the other story.
Quick, mention another kid. Quick, mention another kid.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 You did do that. Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 I'm just kidding, Melville. Don't look to the side.
It's okay. No worries.
That's fine.

Speaker 2 Shaw Shank Redemption might be a a little bit better than mine.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Debatable.

Speaker 1 It's debatable. It takes all kinds.
I got to watch this movie. Please do.
You still ain't watching yet, nigga. And you'd be the first one to watch it.

Speaker 1 I don't like how she barked on me after that last one, honestly, if you want to get. No, no,

Speaker 1 I knew that's what it was. Not all the way to the bottom.

Speaker 1 She didn't apologize about that, did she? Yeah, like, no, my voice is too powerful for her to shit on me like that. I mean, she did it on purpose.
Wait, what are we talking about?

Speaker 1 He's talking about when you said that how angry you were that he didn't watch your movie when he was the first one to watch it.

Speaker 1 And he said he wouldn't critique it because he wanted to be respectful to your family. Like, I made it my business that weekend to watch it.
And it was mad lit shit going on that weekend.

Speaker 1 You know what? Nah. Okay.
I'm in the house this weekend because I will not go back to work.

Speaker 1 So yeah, no, you ain't getting that again. I apologize.
No, fuck that. All right, fuck.

Speaker 1 But I ain't gonna watch it. Okay.
I ain't gonna watch it. On your own turn.
How much is it? What's the name of it? It's 399.

Speaker 2 Trapped in the Spotlight.

Speaker 1 That's not nice. Don't laugh.
I ain't no sorry.

Speaker 1 Moving right along. Moving right along.
Stop. Moving right along.
I was giving promo, fans. Please, somebody.

Speaker 1 You've been watching the, what's our Natalia Grace?

Speaker 1 Oh, Good American Family.

Speaker 1 I'm caught up. I finally started it.
It is, in fact, a comedy. I don't think they intended it to be a comedy, but it is.
It don't matter. It's the funniest thing in the world.
It's a comedy.

Speaker 1 I'm the funniest show out. Fuck.
Good American Family.

Speaker 1 Have you seen the girl's face? Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's a dwarf.

Speaker 1 She has dwarfism. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's not an excuse for her looking like that. Because if you see the real Natalia Grace, who they say had dwarfism, she wasn't this funny looking.

Speaker 1 And I'll

Speaker 1 say that because it might be the makeup. No, no, they're making this girl look funny like this.
Okay. The real Natalia Grace didn't have all these mouth problems.

Speaker 1 She just looked like she wasn't how old they said she was. This girl they making look funny, but Hulu is like that.

Speaker 1 They'll emphasize some shit just for. The dad is really the funniest part for me.

Speaker 1 The dad is the doofiest dude I've ever seen in my entire life on a TV show. The real dad is doofy, though.

Speaker 2 No, he's

Speaker 2 the real dad is doofy. The real dad is like...
He's creepy doofy. He's like a reality show star.

Speaker 1 So is this dad? Yeah, this dad definitely is that.

Speaker 1 Yo, I watched Long Island Doc too. Did you watch it yet? No.

Speaker 2 The Gilgo Beach one.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 You don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't live to say that. That's crazy.
I didn't even record him. You don't even know what you're missing, bro.
I don't do well. I don't...
I cut it on when y'all said to watch it.

Speaker 1 I don't do well with girls getting kidnapped.

Speaker 1 I see what you're saying. Okay.
And the first 20 minutes, this nigga was getting his shit off. So I cut it off.

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 Did they not get kidnapped? Am I wrong? No, they didn't. They were sex workers.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I guess there's still some level of kidnapping there, but. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There were sex workers that were being targeted to be kidnapped workers. Killed.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Murdered. Murdered.
See, I didn't get that far. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, I don't like that.
Y'all know I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 You watch all the murders. Yo, that's the question.
I'm saying here, like, about.

Speaker 1 I know that you're not going to. This is going to sound funny.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 In my porn, I like a storyline. Me too.
I like what you say. I say that to say.
I used to. It's not just watching something where someone is murdered.
It's...

Speaker 1 How did this person get, how did we get to the point where this person is being targeted, murdered? Who is this person? What is his relation to the world, to family? What's his thinking, the motive?

Speaker 1 Not like prostitutes getting kidnapped. But that's towards the end of the series when they started to explain who he was and what he went through.
But in the beginning, I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. I feel like

Speaker 1 it's because of one girl who tried to escape, was on the phone with the cops that... exposed this man's whole thing, operation.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 You got to watch it. Okay.

Speaker 1 okay when i muster up the stomach this nigga was a fucking architect had an architect firm in the midtown

Speaker 1 this nigga was wild bro he had an architect firm right in the car like couple

Speaker 1 and then he did a blog before somebody interviewed him and he's yeah

Speaker 2 he was hiding in plain sight six foot eight hiding in plain sight

Speaker 1 huge ogre like

Speaker 1 it's really good oh y'all can still cover it if you want y'all don't have to no cover it no i want you to see it first then we're gonna cover it since we're talking about watching stuff, did y'all did y'all watch the

Speaker 1 basketball stuff? We had the Final Four and the NCAA Championship for men and women. Did y'all see any of it? No?

Speaker 1 I'm so mad. I'm so mad.
I saw the Final Four. I saw the Women's Championship.

Speaker 1 I'm tight about the Final Four ship. Which one? Men's or women's?

Speaker 1 Men's. You a Duke fan, too?

Speaker 1 Fan? No. I'm diehard Duke fan.
Was Duke clearly by leaps and bounds the best team in the Final Four? Yes. Absolutely.
So what happened? Gambling. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gambling happened. Yeah.
Now,

Speaker 1 the bad calls is a mix.

Speaker 1 Duke didn't play their best game. They clearly didn't play their best game.

Speaker 1 So I'll say that. I don't want to just put the onus on the refs.
But that was a horrible over-the-bat call. Yes.

Speaker 1 That was a gambling is happening. Too much money is on Duke.
Call. That was a phantom call.
Oh, that's interesting. Now, they shouldn't have been in that position.

Speaker 1 that's what i was gonna say they shouldn't have been in that position but you so you leave it in the hands of the refs but that was a horrible horrible horrible call but cool uh they earned that uh that's houston

Speaker 1 that's houston houston earned that they was tough cool

Speaker 1 i'll take it the auburn uh game and in the duke game nobody knows how to inbound the ball That was just takeaway of the entire Final Four is that none of these four teams know how to inbound the ball.

Speaker 1 This happens a lot differently if teams inbound different. Auburn, I thought the refs had something against them.

Speaker 1 And that made the racism pop out of me. Yeah, they the nigga team.
Not the racism, but I'm supporting. Come on,

Speaker 1 my black brothers.

Speaker 1 Florida looking real white out there. Come on, let's go.
Auburn has the stigma of, yeah, the niggas. The nigga team.
And Auburn played the better game for most of the game. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 And I said this earlier. What this Final Four showed me is that none of these coaches could really coach.
Because down the stretch, the final two minutes of all these games,

Speaker 1 the coaches just lost it. Like, it was no guidance, horrible shots, horrible shot selection.
The Auburn game, they wouldn't go down load of broom. He kicking their ass the whole game.

Speaker 1 They wouldn't give him the ball down. Niggas is shooting 45 footers.
It was just bad coaching on

Speaker 1 my perspective. Well, I'm not going to put Houston's,

Speaker 1 Houston shot attempt in the last seconds of the championship on coaching. I'm sure he didn't draw it up like that.
But they had a two-minute stretch.

Speaker 1 That Houston, they had a two-minute stretch, three-minute stretch, where they was just missing, doing like they wasn't working for the best shots.

Speaker 1 They could have gotten last field goal was like three minutes on the clock or something. I saw the stab, bro.
Like, that's just, it wasn't good coaching. You got to last four possibilities.

Speaker 1 You got to run a perfect.

Speaker 1 You got to run a play to get us a good shot, go to the foul line. You got to run a play where we can get something going to the basket.
We can get an offensive rebound. It's just, you.

Speaker 1 And that championship, I don't feel like Florida should have been in that game at all. I feel like when they was down 12, that easily was supposed to be 16.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
A couple plays, that lead was about, that building was about to get crazy. But

Speaker 1 gambling, if you're asking me,

Speaker 1 I looked up two seconds later. These niggas up.
I'm like, wait, what is going on here? I thought it was a laugher in the first half of the game.

Speaker 1 I didn't expect it to even end the way it did. I stopped watching.
I was more interested in the women's this year, but once Duke was out, because I'm a big Duke fan for men.

Speaker 1 This is Joe Button from the Joe Button podcast, and I'm live on air, so please don't say anything to incriminate you or I.

Speaker 1 What's up, brother Joe? How you doing? I'm really well. We have the mayor of Gary on the phone.
We have Eddie Melton on the phone. Make some noise for Eddie Melton.
Hold up, he called us up. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Hey, man, I'm just hitting you up, baby, because I only hit you a couple times, man. We've been playing phone tag, man.
Listen.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to come on the show, but I want to invite you to Gary, man, and show you what it's really about. I'm under a lot of fire for my remarks.

Speaker 1 They're on my ass.

Speaker 1 We got... They should be.

Speaker 1 No, come on. No, they shouldn't.
Gary was a mess when I was out there. It was a mess.
No, I'm not saying respectfully, though. I'm saying respectfully.
Oh, well, yeah, they should be. They should be.

Speaker 1 I'm not mad at that. Denise Williams cursed me out.
We covered that earlier in the pod.

Speaker 1 But listen,

Speaker 1 if some good shit going on, I'm with it. I'm with it.
Like Jairu said, I'm down. When we off here, I'll return this call, but I look forward to it.

Speaker 1 All right, man, I appreciate you, man. Look forward to the opportunity.
And let's set it up soon. Definitely, definitely.
Much love. Thank you, bro.
All right, peace. All right.

Speaker 1 The greatest

Speaker 1 love

Speaker 1 of all

Speaker 1 is easy to achieve. Nope.

Speaker 1 Fuck y'all niggas.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Go ahead.
Go ahead. That's all right, Mark.

Speaker 1 I thought that was big after Denise Williams curse very

Speaker 1 Very big. It was.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Good job, my man. Solid work.
What are we talking about, man? Oh, we're talking about the final. I mean, again, shout out to the team that won.
I just was rooting for Duke.

Speaker 1 The women's was the most disappointing national championship game I've seen in a long time. I mean, obviously, I was rooting for Dawn Staley.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for South Carolina, but I just wanted a better game. I just wanted to see a competitive game.
That wasn't a competitive game. I mean, UConn is a legendary team.

Speaker 1 You know, Coach Geno is a legend, but like,

Speaker 1 I mean, they weren't in the game after the first half or maybe even the first quarter. So, to me,

Speaker 1 that's not the kind of national game I want to see, especially after last year when Caitlin Clark,

Speaker 1 you know, was squaring up against, or the whole team, I would say. She was in it.
Last year she was. She was in championship last year? Yeah.
They lost

Speaker 1 four.

Speaker 1 That was last year. Last year.
Last year. 12 months ago, 365 days ago, she was in the finals.
Over the years, nigga. No, y'all said two years.
I didn't say that. Do you have said it? No,

Speaker 1 I think it lost this luster once Juju got hurt. I think they were going to market it up against, again, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Juju versus Paige.

Speaker 1 And I think everybody's plans, all the marketing plans, all of that shit got scrambled once Juju got hurt.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. I think that's right.
I agree with that. And I think it would have gotten, because they kind of criticized them, saying that

Speaker 1 it didn't do what Caitlin did last year. Right.
Because Caitlin was the star. Juju was the equivalent to Caitlin of this year.
And I think

Speaker 1 it fucked up. I also hate that they put it at three o'clock on a Sunday.
Not me. I think when women's basketball gets prime time, they do well.
Even when they win against football, even when they go,

Speaker 1 not finals football, but not, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 When they go against football, when they go against NBA basketball, they do quite well in prime time. They put up big numbers.

Speaker 1 3 o'clock on a Sunday, to me, doesn't give them a fighting chance to succeed and put up the big numbers. And they'll be like, hey, nobody watched it.
Well, you put it at 3 o'clock on a Sunday.

Speaker 1 Whereas the men's is on, was it 8 o'clock on a Monday? Monday. Yeah, I mean, it's just apples and oranges, the comparisons.
That's what I don't like. But that's just me.

Speaker 1 But what pissed me off the most

Speaker 1 was this Akeema Lajuan shit on the Final Four.

Speaker 1 They didn't allow Akeem Alajuan onto the floor after Houston won. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fucking Joker fans.

Speaker 1 He's Akeem Alajuan. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And a nigga that's working the rope might be 22 years old and don't know the dream from the night.

Speaker 2 Is that what stopped him? Like somebody at the rope didn't know who he was? They didn't know who he was.

Speaker 1 First of all, that old ass man at the desk was not no 22-year-old. He looked like a deacon.
No, I'm just joking. No, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 I was saying, if it was a young it, I'd be like, all right, this dude looked like a deacon at the church. You know what I'm saying? And I'm making $16 an hour, big fella.
I don't know nothing.

Speaker 1 You can't come in here. You only got one of these? You don't got one of these.
That's some ice shit. Ice wouldn't have let that nigga in.

Speaker 1 Ice would have called the police.

Speaker 1 Ice would have been like, yo, bro, yo, I'm letting you in. Hey, yo, dog.
Says yellow. You all got all you got.

Speaker 1 Sorry. Dream, how are you? Wake up.
I know we're getting to this motherfucker.

Speaker 1 Is there anybody? I guess the reason I'm asking, first, do y'all have an expectation in certain places, cities, whatever, that they should let you in with or without a pass? Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 If you are I keen the dream,

Speaker 1 you are supposed to be. No, I'm talking about you personally.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Like, for example, if I'm in Philadelphia, I expect, I don't expect to have to need a pass on a whole lot of shit. Right.
Right.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 1 I would assume you feel the same way in

Speaker 1 the west side of Jersey City or whatever, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. He needs a pass, all right? Yeah, Yeah, he needs a pass.

Speaker 1 He said he got to check in. He got to.

Speaker 1 He gonna pass on by.

Speaker 1 Let me play with you, son. There's a lot of places my face card is good, though, like on its own without Mandy.

Speaker 1 A lot of places you just need me.

Speaker 1 Not nobody's plus one, not to be confused with Mandy, getting me in. A lot of places, just my face guard is good.

Speaker 1 But y'all was saying. That shot was, it took me a second to figure who that was for.
It just took me a second to recap. I still don't know know me neither i have no idea

Speaker 1 is mandy are you mandy's plus one a lot never

Speaker 1 do y'all go places a lot does mandy think you are plus one a lot that's gonna say when y'all go in do they do they dap both y'all

Speaker 1 stop

Speaker 1 like that

Speaker 1 you ain't seen that dairy queen in about 40 years though it's cool but anyway uh but like i'm saying do y'all expect y'all face i know i've seen you outside i know there's places you expect to go if you walk into any place in Queens, if you walk into, or you go any back, anything on the battle scene, I would imagine you walk up in there, you ain't asking for no pass.

Speaker 1 No, but

Speaker 1 sometimes people require a pass, but I'll fill away as well. Yeah, depending on where I go, and you go where you're invited.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Even if I'm not invited, I still go too.

Speaker 1 If I'm not invited, I still go. But we're not talking about where you go.
You see how I came outside. Yo, stop playing if you're gonna walk me outside.
Stop playing. Yo, my nigga.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna lie, bro.

Speaker 1 You on thin nights, Bucko. Stop nice.

Speaker 1 Bucked up. What you doing?

Speaker 1 You on thin ice, bro. You see how I am outside.
Boop. All right, cool, but we're not.
Don't use me to throw a shout at my man, nigga. No, I'm going to keep shooting at him.

Speaker 1 Don't use me to throw a shout out at my man. And shout to you in separate.
Being the plus one. No, I'm shooting at you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let me hear it. I did it.

Speaker 1 So you just said I'm not invited to places. No, he's not going to be a single.
No, I'm trying to say you go where you invited. That's where you go.
There's nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 1 You're trying to go to.

Speaker 1 This nigga put this in.

Speaker 1 No, there's no reason Hakeem Waijuan Juan shouldn't have been at all

Speaker 1 carte blanche and that bitch like I built this house. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? It's the house. College and NBA.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like and in Houston Kim Alajuan should be like, I mean that's like Michael Jordan in Chicago. You don't need no damn pass.
So

Speaker 1 did they rectify it? Did they fix it? They sent his ass home. That's like when Kevin Hart.

Speaker 1 Dream shake your ass. It's like when Kevin Hart tried to do that

Speaker 1 at the Super Bowl. Right.
But at least with the Super Bowl. Different, yo.
I'm asking. The Super Bowl wasn't in Philly, though.
You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, I feel, and everybody knows Kevin Hart, right? And the Super Bowl is celebrities of celebrities.

Speaker 1 I think they should have let Kevin, but at least I understand the logic a little bit of saying you can't go on the stage with the team. They wouldn't even let Keenelage want on the court

Speaker 1 in Houston. The court he built.
Like, fam, y'all might have this whole gymnasium because of me. I don't care if y'all heard y'all just keep going.

Speaker 1 So I'll just take the other side of it for fuck's sake. Why should he be letting the court?

Speaker 1 It's the house he built. Because he built the house.

Speaker 1 I think some people are so famous they should be allowed to do whatever they want. And yeah, I know that sounds crazy.
What was he going to do? Congratulations.

Speaker 1 Congratulate the team that just won an action. He wanted to stay in the room.
They haven't won a championship since them.

Speaker 1 Since Five Slammer Jammer. So he went to go in there and just say, what's up?

Speaker 1 Flavs, Five Slammer Jammers. That's what it was called.

Speaker 1 That was what he was doing, but that's funny the way you said it.

Speaker 1 All right. So.

Speaker 1 If he built it, if this is the house he built, you know where the locker room is.

Speaker 1 Joe, stop it. Stop.
I'm asking you a question. Does he know where the lock is? Yes, he knows where the locker room is.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Why didn't anybody else know he was there?

Speaker 1 They all knew he's there. He's seven, first of all, he's seven feet tall.
Seven foot tall.

Speaker 2 So I'm still confused as to how the rope stopped him and he gets sent home.

Speaker 1 I don't get what somebody did say. Yo, that's Akeem.
Let him on the fucking car. I think he went home, but when the dude stopped him, but didn't everybody else?

Speaker 1 You ain't seen what Vernon Maxwell said? No.

Speaker 1 You know, Vernon Maxwell is crazy. So Vernon Maxwell, like a month ago, was on one of the sport podcasts and talked about he disrespected.
Vernon Maxwell is a part of all the smoke now. Yes.
Is he?

Speaker 1 Shout out. Shout out.

Speaker 1 I ain't know that. Shout out.

Speaker 1 That's good. That's amazing.

Speaker 1 So Vernon Maxwell talked about one time he disrespected I came and I came smacking.

Speaker 1 But who's the way to last him? Was that you?

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 So Vernon just writes, hey, yo, dream, you got to forget you, Muslim Tumbs Hobbs.

Speaker 1 Show these niggas what the hand does to the face.

Speaker 1 What the hand said to the face. Yo, dog.
He can't smack the rope, dude. But he could.
He was so respectful. He basically was like, I can get past you if I want to.
Again, I'm saying.

Speaker 1 He ain't going to make a big deal.

Speaker 1 I'm going to respect respect your job, which I appreciate respecting you. He did the right thing.
No, he absolutely did the right thing. He did the right thing.
Classic. Classic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I respect people who are just doing their job. I just hate the fact that that happened.
Certain people shit Trumps.

Speaker 1 If you were at a slaughterhouse reunion, you happened to not perform that night, but you're standing there, you should be able to walk. You should be able to come on stage.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, some shit like you should just be able to do. I think.
Did they do that? Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes, I agree with you. I also think that if you're a celebrity, then it should be in your toolbox to know how to handle the situation when it's not that way.
That's fair. He did.
He did it. He did it.

Speaker 1 And he did. He did it right.
And he did. Now, you know, some other niggas are going to make a big creature.

Speaker 1 Yo, you know who I am? And all the extra shit. And ain't how that's done.
He didn't do that.

Speaker 1 So my last question is. I never understood celebrities getting offended by that, too.
Like, you want to kind of be in places where they don't all know you. Introduce yourself, ego.

Speaker 1 Make your fucking network bigger and expand. It's ego, bro.
This is, don't make any sense. It's stupid.
Is there anybody whose face card is universal in this country?

Speaker 1 Like, is there anybody who likes like Snoop? Hey, you know, you be powder.

Speaker 1 You are a potter. You the best.

Speaker 1 Clear out, y'all. What's up? My nigga, I've been with you where you tell a nigga y'all don't need no ID, my face is an ID.

Speaker 1 At the doors of clubs, that they wouldn't, yo, you got an ID on you? No, I don't need no ID. My face is an ID.

Speaker 1 How's that negative what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Because you ain't have the same respect for that guy that's doing his job. Oh, wait,

Speaker 1 as a celebrity, sometimes you need to introduce yourself to people. You know, they're not going to know who they are, who you are.
I said 1v1 and she badly.

Speaker 1 That was a solid joke. How old was I? How old was I in this story you're talking about?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a long time ago. That's my point.
You be doing that. You do that a lot.
Hit the update. Hit the update button, man.
Come on. Come with me to the gym.
Pull up. You say that.
Pull up.

Speaker 1 Check the current vibe. See what it's like.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy. Yo, these niggas get so bad.
I'm just giving my current views today. Nah, your face is the idea is better today.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's true. It is.

Speaker 1 I I don't know that that's true. Yeah, ID is binging, I don't know that that's true.
Y'all talking about money, y'all go always on the money. I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 I don't know that that's true. You can get notoriety today in society.
It's bigger than it was 15 years ago. And more positive.
15 years ago, I'm 29. I don't know that.
I don't know that. It is.

Speaker 1 It is. Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying I don't know. I could argue the other side, but I won't, because it's a broadcast.
But anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 1 29, I would be six years removed from

Speaker 1 a top 40 single, my face plastered everywhere. That would be somewhere near the height of my popularity,

Speaker 1 I would think. My voice may be more known today.

Speaker 1 My face in New York at 29, we was just broke. So them niggas that was shitting on me at the door, that's when the tables got introduced to New York.
Joe.

Speaker 1 It was like, oh, it's going to cost you $2,500 to staying here. No, it's not, because I'm going home.
Joe.

Speaker 1 What? That's not true. What's not true? Your face is way more popular today.
Way more. You're the Super Bowl commercial.

Speaker 1 My nigga, what are you talking about i'm i'm riding my little scooter in the airport yesterday i'm just riding my scooter so they had some hills that's a nice little hill

Speaker 1 hills or hills

Speaker 1 hills all right we gotta ask what's making sure that's good so i'm just flying down there no brakes the dude is waiting at the bottom of the hill and was like yo my nigga i was gonna turn the camera on so i could have i wish he would have done that right where he's like yo let me get a picture.

Speaker 1 So I know, nigga, if my face is recognizable,

Speaker 1 come on, my nigga, stop. I just disagree.
I just think my voice is more popular today. There's plenty of times where I'll be around somebody I feel like shouldn't know me at all, like 60 plus.

Speaker 1 And it's not until I start talking that they're like,

Speaker 1 where you from? I know that voice. I know you.
It happens a lot to me. I know.
And a lot of times niggas will know your face, but don't be wanting to be on no

Speaker 1 embarrassing shit or no groupie shit or no. That's interesting, yeah.
Because, like, my kids know who you are, they wouldn't, obviously, they weren't around for your height era.

Speaker 1 So, I do think that there's your voice is a different thing. That's another level.
I do think you're more than kids who won't even know you rapped. Yeah, well, got it.

Speaker 1 Because, like, my stepkids weren't even born. Like, my fucking father wasn't.
Yeah, bro, the beeves aren't. This is a generation of people that aren't.
The beeves are loaded or yeah.

Speaker 1 And then this morning, I was going to the airport this morning because they canceled my flight. I come outside at five o'clock in the morning, and the niggas like,

Speaker 1 oh shit, my nigga.

Speaker 1 And it's me.

Speaker 1 Why are you saying that you say that you

Speaker 1 don't sell yourself shit? I'm not doing that. What I'm saying is if my face is recognizable, nigga, your face is recognizable in other countries.
I went to other countries and recognized me.

Speaker 1 So your face is way more recognizable.

Speaker 1 I went to the Cayman Islands, nigga. Matt, every country I go to,

Speaker 1 I want to go home. Can I go home? Why? Huh? Why, nigga? Because I hear the pod different.

Speaker 1 Yo, you're an idiot. Anyway.
But he asked you what country. I just told him in the Cayman Islands.
When I was in the Cayman Islands, a nigga came from behind a bar. So just all the way to where I was.

Speaker 1 You made it sound like it was a bunch of people. When I went to DR, a nigga tried to take a picture in the bathroom.
It was just Cayman Islands. Come on, nigga.

Speaker 1 Niggas asked him when they were known outside.

Speaker 1 Niggas is known outside.

Speaker 1 I'm a hater, y'all.

Speaker 1 Don't make me dead. She's a fucking messy.
Yeah, I'm done. You're a hater y'all.
Don't worry, nigga. I know.
I know niggas.

Speaker 1 Niggas are idiots. Niggas know niggas' faces, boy.
Stop downplaying yourself, nigga. You that.
Huh? A lot of people.

Speaker 1 I wasn't doing that. I'm saying that in complete

Speaker 1 to the popularity of Joe Button's face.

Speaker 1 It's night and day.

Speaker 1 How do you fend off the groupies? I don't have any groupies.

Speaker 1 Hope they meme that too.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Next question.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. That's it, real quick.

Speaker 1 You don't have any groupies. No, zero.
At all.

Speaker 1 Maybe you just don't pay attention to that. No, yeah, there's one that you acknowledge, and there's something that you don't acknowledge.
That might be it. I don't acknowledge any.
He's got admirers.

Speaker 2 Admirers, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Groupies. So when they tell you you're handsome, you say thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 That makes him a groupie? No, don't reverse it. Don't reverse it.
Don't reverse it. You're not handsome, nigga.

Speaker 1 That's hate. That's hate.
So what?

Speaker 1 You gotta tell your man. What the fuck? What the fuck do you think he's talking to me about? He's more.
Yeah, but young knuckle hat. How you doing?

Speaker 1 He got light eyes, boy. That's his eyes.
Look, it's nice. You got nice eyes.
Let me see. Look at me real quick.
You don't fucking get a water. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Your eyes are like memorable and shit like that. No, he said, look at him.
Let me see. Look at me, bro.
Using his eyes at the bar to get the ball.

Speaker 1 You know that trick?

Speaker 1 The women like light eyes. You know that.
Yo, can I get orange? And I heard that you guys got like vision issues.

Speaker 1 Can you see? That's why you do that squint there's a trick to that light eye

Speaker 1 you can't really see that's why he squints

Speaker 1 he say you don't no you don't no you don't say that no he's no he admitted he got contacts he wears contacts yeah yeah he wear clear so he's admitting to the squint now

Speaker 1 Because he sat here and said, I don't squint. Y'all got to stop saying I do not.
He said that here before.

Speaker 1 I'm not making that a squint. No, he said that when we were.
Actually, he said that when we were queens, yep, yep, he did. He said that before.
I'm lying. He won't squint.
Can you respond, please?

Speaker 1 Because if you said that, that'd be wrong. To what? That you don't squint.
You said that you don't squint?

Speaker 1 I don't think I squint. Or if I'm squinting, I'm not squinting purposefully.
Like for a picture, I'm not squinting my eyes. Like, you just doing it.
If I'm talking, yeah, I might be squinting.

Speaker 2 It's not a squint, it's a smise.

Speaker 1 Oh, you talking about, but but that is it. Okay, that is the pose.

Speaker 1 After you take the picture, do you look at them? Like, do you think you're more gorgeous like that? You really do squint. But that's what niggas do.
Even when you're a squid.

Speaker 1 You do the light-skinned squint. But you gotta look to your face like this.

Speaker 2 It's the smize.

Speaker 1 The smile with your eyes. Nah, he's doing the baby, I'm your shy squint.

Speaker 1 It's the smiles.

Speaker 1 Baby, I'm yours.

Speaker 1 Give me your love.

Speaker 1 Yo, you niggas. Yo, he's an idiot.
He looks like you went to the shy audition. I gotta see, look at me, real lash.
Look at me, real quick.

Speaker 1 Hold on, look at me real quick.

Speaker 1 I gotta see what happens. Like when you take all that, when you take the whole hair off, if you bald, nigga, you're like Morris Chestnut or one of them niggas, right?

Speaker 1 You look crazy. Let me see.
Bro, stop asking me. You can't let that go.

Speaker 1 Let me keep saying, nigga, let me see. Let me see.

Speaker 1 Let me see. He doing.
Him bald. You think you'll look great?

Speaker 1 He got to put some shades on.

Speaker 1 He gonna look. He probably have no beard.

Speaker 1 That comforter. Freeze.

Speaker 1 This was like RB trend. What?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Hey, look at Mel Raya Leaves.

Speaker 1 You know the shit. You know the song.
Of course you know this song. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 No, I'm just, I was not in the video. I'm just, I'm back in high school in my head.

Speaker 1 In my head. Any of them shy Christopher Williams, I'll be sure niggas put Mel back in a whole different room.

Speaker 2 Raheem from Juice, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like no dark-skinned man. Raheem from Juice.
Oh, it was a phase. He's around.
No, I know. That's Khalil.
I know who he is.

Speaker 2 It was a phase. Jomi?

Speaker 1 No. Light-skinned men are a phase, you're saying? Yes.

Speaker 1 Are you in a dark-skinned man now?

Speaker 2 Well, I'm talking about high school.

Speaker 1 What are you into now?

Speaker 1 Like, that's why I was like, no, because what you, like, are you, I'm into a human being? I'm into.

Speaker 2 Yes, I'm into a human being. No, I'm just saying of the male persuasion.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 It has nothing to do with. You don't have a type, a particular type now.
No, not really. Okay.
Does that come with

Speaker 1 how you progressed in life age, Wats?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't want to know how you progressed in life age, Wats.
I don't want to be because you can't say that.

Speaker 1 Anywho. I'm watching you try to be respectful.

Speaker 1 I'll be fucking up to respect Mark. Mark,

Speaker 1 you gotta hold me down sometimes. Just be yourself.

Speaker 1 Bitch, you changed, right?

Speaker 1 No, that's what you want to say. No.

Speaker 1 The male had a type. I like muscles.
I like white guys, you know, but does she? Yeah. Shout out to you, Mel.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Don't let none of these niggas stop you.
Okay. Man, can't appreciate the queen.
All right. All right.
All right. All right.
All right, along. Okay, all right.
Listen.

Speaker 1 Nigga up. All right, anywho's.
Mel, tell everybody about the topic that you wanted us to start with in block A, the first one, before music, before Drake, before anything.

Speaker 2 Okay, we were commenting on the fact that it was kind of a slow news, you know, day week or whatever the case was, but I was like, there was national protests in every state in the country.

Speaker 1 And that's when my ignorant ass said, I didn't see nothing but sun shining and coffee. I didn't see, it was beautiful outside.
I didn't see a protest nowhere. Honestly.

Speaker 1 That was like, yo, nobody's talking about all the national protests that happened in the world.

Speaker 2 It feels like the media is suppressing it.

Speaker 1 Even on the news, I didn't see nothing about it.

Speaker 2 It feels like the media is intentionally suppressing the fact that there was national, there was protests in every single state.

Speaker 1 What are they protesting about?

Speaker 2 They're protesting Trump and Elon Musk. They're protesting tariffs.
They're protesting the fact that people's savings and retirement and 401ks are dwindling. That's what they're protesting.

Speaker 2 They're protesting just like a fucking hijack of the New York, of the fucking U.S.

Speaker 1 government. You know what I would like to know? I don't know.
There's no way to really find out who all these people voted for. Yep.
How many of you protesters voted for?

Speaker 1 I would love to just be able to. How can we confirm that? Stop.
That's why Kamala's under fire now.

Speaker 1 She said, I told you so. She's still doing a hole.
I told you so. And

Speaker 1 I do think it's a horrible time to say I told you so. It's not even I told you so.
What I'm saying is just. But that is how it comes.
But how is it horrible that she said that? Why is it hard?

Speaker 1 She said for her to say it. Yeah, she said it.
She told you ahead of time. This is what's going to happen inside it.
I think it's horrible.

Speaker 1 It is horrible. I don't.
I hate when Hillary did it. I hate when Kamala did it.
I don't. I don't.
Let somebody else say it. I mean, I'm not saying it wrong.
Let somebody else say it.

Speaker 2 Yo, dog. Sometimes you got to let somebody do the dirty work for you, especially when it's fucking up.

Speaker 1 See, I disagree with that.

Speaker 1 The Democratic Party has lost all their fucking balls and sack for the past past cowardly 12, 15 years.

Speaker 1 Someone needs to speak up and say some shit. Okay, but the Democratic Party also has been having trouble with a farm system and a candidate that the people can get behind,

Speaker 1 which means that they have a problem with messaging. So even if you were correct, how you made that palatable to the public was very off.

Speaker 1 It was very off. So now you want to sit and say, I told you so.
Yeah, but you didn't deliver it in a way that helped you at the polls one and two.

Speaker 1 Now when everybody is suffering, ain't the time to do that. I'm going to say this.
It ain't the time to do that when people are suffering. Y'all know that.
You know what's fucked up out here.

Speaker 1 Y'all know I said she ran a shitty campaign.

Speaker 1 I did. She ran a shitty campaign.
But I watched some of those debates and she outlined what's about to take place. She said it.

Speaker 1 Yo, you get in bed with a nigga that don't respect you and he gonna fucking eat you for lunch. She said that to him face to face.

Speaker 1 I'm not arguing whether she's right.

Speaker 1 So now

Speaker 1 I think to Parks' point, yo, the Democrats always doing what's quote unquote politically correct. The things that we should and should not do.

Speaker 1 Now it's the time to go away from what the fuck we've been doing and start playing this dirty pool game that the Republicans have been playing.

Speaker 1 Here's why I don't like that. Here's why I don't like it.

Speaker 1 The only thing I don't like about it is if the Democrats had said the right shit and people made the wrong choice, I would be like, fine, give me a I told you so.

Speaker 1 But Democrats spent, I mean, you said yourself, they ran a shitty campaign.

Speaker 1 I think they spent way too much time not talking about economic issues, way too much time focused on these little cultural issues. Stupid shit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so now to be like, we told you so, if I was a voter, I'd be like, you didn't tell me shit. At least not enough.

Speaker 1 She did. She might not have said it enough.
That's my point. Cool.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm like, don't get on the high horse now. Like, y'all were so high and mighty riding this out.
Yeah, I don't see it. You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Just because I don't think the Democrats' messaging was strong enough for them to justify saying, we told you so. I think that you can't.
I agree with that. No,

Speaker 1 I agree with you as well. But I think that this, I think that when Donald Trump's message was, I'm going to fix shit,

Speaker 1 the Democratic's message might have been, yo, this is what we're going to do, blah, blah. Don't nobody want to hear that.
So it's not like she didn't say it.

Speaker 1 And again, she outlined the plan and he just said that shit like broad stroke. Yes.
And so now I did outline what we were going to

Speaker 1 possibly do. He just said, yo, eggs, hot, I'm going to fix eggs and gas.
And y'all motherfuckers ran with that.

Speaker 1 I think going back to the initial point is Republicans, especially Trump and his administration and his people,

Speaker 1 have successfully been saying

Speaker 1 whatever the fuck to

Speaker 1 people to get up. And punching you in your face.
That's it. And the Democrats are going to say, nah, yo, you know you're not going to be able to do it.
Actually, well, actually,

Speaker 1 you got to turn another cheek. It ain't fear when you smack a motherfucker.
Donald Trump running around.

Speaker 1 Here's the other thing. You can't keep playing this politically correct, cool game.
I agree, but here's the other thing.

Speaker 1 Tactically, I don't know if it works because when people are catching hell, nobody wants to hear.

Speaker 1 But y'all arguing is totally separate from I told you so. We're getting away from the point here.
No, I disagree.

Speaker 1 I think that I think what's going to happen is, I told you so, I told you so, I told you so. It's going to now start winning in the congressional primaries.

Speaker 1 I told y'all, motherfuckers, what's going on? Aha. And now, niggas are going to be like, that's more like bitter rubbing it in your face.
No, that's what I'm saying. I don't even take it as an aha.

Speaker 1 No, it's, but what's going to happen is that we're trying to win the Congress back. Oh, not we, because I'm not necessarily.
But you know what people do?

Speaker 1 Solution-based. Like, you should be

Speaker 1 sure. Yeah, that should be solution-based.

Speaker 1 So what right now?

Speaker 1 At a time like this, ish? At a time like this. What is it? It got to be solutions.
It helps you win the primaries back in Congress. I told y'all this was going to happen.

Speaker 1 So now when we come back to the market,

Speaker 1 nobody wants to be talked to like that or feel like they're being talked down to.

Speaker 1 At a time when Donald Trump telling, calling niggas fat and all this other shit, and the world resonated with his message. So now y'all.

Speaker 1 That goes back to me talking about the Democrats don't even know, that party don't even know how to speak to the voters. They don't know how to speak to the voters.
They're doing a terrible job.

Speaker 1 I can't speak to the economic, the terrific issues.

Speaker 1 I haven't studied this enough to, but I have spoken to a lot of voters on like the Middle East, just as another example and as the bombings are continuing overseas people are doing the same thing we told y'all this is trump was going to be worse than kamalonis we told you we told you we told you and as people's shit is being set on fire people's children are being killed nobody is feeling good about hearing the i told you so and voters are saying it's not going to make them more likely to vote now tariffs are a different issue i again i don't i don't want to speak on something i don't know enough about but what i will say is history historically voters don't always voters generally don't respond well to i told you so they tend to respond to this shit is broke Why don't you try this thing next time?

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? And that's what I would want to hear more from. Like if Kamala's going to be the head of the party, because Hillary Clinton did this.
And she's not. But this is.

Speaker 1 That's the other thing. And I'm agreeing with this.

Speaker 1 Respectfully, she's not. I'm disagreeing with you.
I'm disagree with you. Because what Donald Trump did was, I told y'all so.
Look at what Joe Biden's been doing.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do something totally different. Yeah.
If today, when you hear him talk, they don't talk about what the Republicans are doing to get things right. You know what they keep saying?

Speaker 1 Yo, Sleepy Joe did this. Anything that's wrong is

Speaker 1 yo kamala did this y'all y'all bugging the out joe biden did this here's why it worked here's why i don't think it's a fair comparison one they it wasn't in a moment of crisis right part of how

Speaker 1 you think we had the same economic crisis under biden what no that's my point wait wait wait let me finish okay let me answer you i think that was up

Speaker 1 i didn't ask the question i was you asked me how i i was saying what i'm saying is it's easier when you're in a moment of relative stability to convince people that shit could be better and part of what trump comes in and says is, look at sleep, look at Sleepy Joe.

Speaker 1 You could be making so much money. We were so much better under me, even though there's no crisis, at least domestic.
Oh, no, let me, and I want to add to your point.

Speaker 1 The Republican Party has found their Aaron judge. He could go out there and say whatever the fuck he want to say.
They found their superstar person. And that's the second thing.

Speaker 1 Whatever the Kakamani message is, the majority is going to agree. The Democrats don't even have that person.
Nope. So a lot of this, they lose on just sheer personality before we get the messaging.

Speaker 1 And Trump, and Trump has a cult-like base that doesn't care about issues. They're not fundamentally, they're not voting based on Trump's policy.
They're voting based on Trump.

Speaker 1 Like you said, I could go out on Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody. The Democrats need their Dwayne Johnson, Stephen A., or whoever the fuck.
Stephen, I don't even like hearing this.

Speaker 1 Like, did all of this shit just say, oh, we on the wrong route? We ain't about to win in 2029 either. If we're talking like this,

Speaker 1 again,

Speaker 1 I think everything that we're saying, I don't think we on opposite sides of the spectrum.

Speaker 1 I think what you're saying is, yo, we don't have a representative, right? Cool. And I think that

Speaker 1 the old way of doing Democratic shit has not worked.

Speaker 1 So I think that there has to be a new way. And you following these old politically correct, I'm going to just be the good guy, turn the other cheek trends.
They have proven not to work.

Speaker 1 Okay, but the Democratic Party is almost like the radio people finding out about the internet.

Speaker 1 They are the last people to find out that their way and how they've been gathering metrics and speaking to people is not in the wrong. The Republicans have been

Speaker 1 right. I mean, right.
So the Republicans have just been ahead of this particular issue for a little while. And now the Republic,

Speaker 1 the tongue twister, and now the Democrats are looking for their, but they started late. Yeah.
They started late. I agree.

Speaker 1 We all agree there needs to be a different response to this moment than they've done historically. I just think.

Speaker 1 The first time I got locked up, my brother, the lawyer, came to get me out. And while I was sitting there, it was helpful too.

Speaker 1 I started to stay the weekend, but he, you know, he let me stay there for a long time talking to him until he went to the club. And anyway, he said, pissed me off.
But anyway, he said, I told you.

Speaker 1 So he started breaking down to me all the shit I did fucked up and why I shouldn't have been there. I didn't want to hear that shit right then.

Speaker 1 All I wanted him to do was tell me how I was going to get home. Once I got home, he could tell me all that shit.
But right in this moment, I just want you to get me out of here.

Speaker 1 That's how people feel right now.

Speaker 1 Telling people in this moment of crisis, what they did wrong. Nobody wants to hear that shit.
And they're not going to be able to hear it. They're going to get defensively mad.

Speaker 1 There's plenty of people that voted for Trump that are looking at the state of things and saying, I made a mistake. I may have been wrong on some of the reasons why I did it.
It don't matter.

Speaker 1 We're in the thick of things. We're in the thick of things.
Who cares? So, what now? So, what? Now, we all got to get on the same page.

Speaker 1 And this is without me knowing that there was protesting anywhere. So, please.

Speaker 2 So, CNN just released an article about the tariffs. It basically says tariffs on China are set to rise to at least 104%

Speaker 2 on Wednesday, which is fucking mind-blowing. So, he's set to impose an astounding 104% in levies across all Chinese imports on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 And this comes on top of Chinese tariffs that were in place prior to. They're going back and forth.

Speaker 1 How do y'all feel about the tariffs plan? I'm sorry, mal.

Speaker 1 Long term, long-term.

Speaker 1 Every major.

Speaker 1 Long-term is his administration. Four years.
Five. Let's call it five.
I think it fell.

Speaker 2 They're calling it an economic winter, and they're calling it a recession that rivals the Great Depression.

Speaker 2 Every major economist is sounding the alarm that this is the absolute worst thing that can happen.

Speaker 2 Their world leaders from I don't know how many countries are saying this is you he you got to stop him.

Speaker 1 They had seven Wharton economists, right?

Speaker 1 You pen Wharton is they grad like they business school and they said yo the shit that he's doing none of them agree with it and they all ousted it.

Speaker 1 I think that the message behind what he's doing is resonating with the people more, which is we lost the country, right? And we got to get it back.

Speaker 1 I'm not disagreeing with that theoretically. How you going about doing that is nuts, my nigga.
Like, yo, fam, you can't just go in the house and say, yo, y'all live here.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm going to remodel the whole house at one time.

Speaker 2 Get out with nowhere to live.

Speaker 1 So, y'all just got to sleep in that corner while we, no, I'm going to do the bathroom first, and then I'm going to do this room first. I think it's a slow process and a slow process.

Speaker 1 I want to preface anything I have to say in this conversation with it's not necessarily reflective of my thoughts and views. I just want to try to have the conversation.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why can't he do that? Because you hurt so many people in the process that...

Speaker 1 People are going to get hurt. See, I think you look at people as collective damage.
And I think he don't look at people, period. I think that

Speaker 1 his destroy and rebuild thing, right?

Speaker 1 That's why I just have a hard time when y'all get to talking about the world leaders and their response because whatever the fuck their plan was and what been going on

Speaker 1 ain't been popping. No, I'm not talking about it.
I do think that you need somebody with radical views to do something totally against the grain and get shit popping to see real change. I think that.

Speaker 1 Let me just land. I'm not disagreeing.
And I think that part of why he feels so empowered to do so is because we are the biggest consumer.

Speaker 1 So if I'm the biggest consumer and I'm doing all of the spending,

Speaker 1 then yeah, when I walk in Louis Vuitton,

Speaker 1 I'm putting my dick on the table.

Speaker 2 But there's a, no, wait.

Speaker 1 Am I off? No, but no, you're not. But this is the thing, right? It's too...
I'm sorry, man. Okay.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, the larger problem here is not necessarily

Speaker 2 what Trump is doing, even though it's fucking huge. It's the fact that Elon Musk is in is in office.

Speaker 1 He's a brawl.

Speaker 2 He's got this agency that's shrouded in mystery. He has access to everything, carte blanche fucking authority to do whatever he wants.
They're firing federal employees, gutting federal agencies.

Speaker 2 This guy's a fucking foreigner.

Speaker 2 He wasn't elected into office. Like, what the?

Speaker 1 This is insane. She's insanity.
She's the cutest. What?

Speaker 1 I just thought the foreign department was funny. He's coming from a foreigner.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I shouldn't be allowed to do shit either. You know what I'm saying? And as a foreigner, you should say foreigner, cooler.

Speaker 1 Foreigner. It should be a cooler way to say that.
Foreigner, foreigner. Foreigner.
Yo, listen, you're right. I think, again, I'm telling you, I think his mindset is right.

Speaker 1 When you are in government, your job is governance. So you can't take your constituents and say, fuck y'all.
I could care less how y'all get along.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do X because now the people, to ISIS point, are collateral damage. Fam, in D.C., I read a report that over the last three months, 8,000 houses went up for sale.
D.C. is one of the highest

Speaker 1 costs of living in the country. Fam, so now you just gonna wipe out that whole fuck the houses.
We talking about the gas stations. We're talking about the cleaners.
We talking about the nightclubs.

Speaker 1 We talking about the Wawas.

Speaker 1 All of that shit suffers. So if your whole thing that you ran on was economic progress, you are now saying, fuck y'all.
I could care less about progress. And some of this shit is egotistical.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you a question

Speaker 1 Just, I'm not saying I agree with it either.

Speaker 1 What if my goal is economic progress, but the road is going to be bumpy for a while? I think you roll it out slow. Shit got to get real fast.
I think you roll it out slow.

Speaker 1 I think you roll it out slow for the humanity piece. I think you can't just say, fuck all of these, in my opinion.
I agree. You can't, because what's happening is he.
But I think y'all agreeing there.

Speaker 1 I think it contradicts his Trump point and his broad scope of what's going on. I I think he don't give a fuck about the middle class and under.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 And what makes up 90-something percent of the country? Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 Middle class and under. So cool.
So now you're going to have

Speaker 1 this

Speaker 1 10%

Speaker 1 that is cool. But now the rest of Europe, because again, we in government.
This is not a corporation, even though the United States is a corporation. But you can't run it like that.

Speaker 1 But for him, if he's focused on the ecosystem, then yeah, I need to incentivize the people that actually run the ecosystem.

Speaker 1 and i wanted to address i'm not agreeing necessarily agreeing with we're just having a conversation got it your louis vuitton point yo if i spend mad money in louis vuitton i could put my dick on the table yes cool

Speaker 1 china

Speaker 1 can say yo i'm supplying 80 of your goods 70 of your goods you need me more than i need you that's a fact that that's a super important point that's a very china china is the joe button in this example it's not the united but that's a temporary point if if i'm on some build and destroy it's not it's a temporary point.

Speaker 1 How long is it going to take you to build? Well, we don't know that part yet.

Speaker 1 And in your building process.

Speaker 1 And in your building process,

Speaker 1 your people are suffering. We got that part, but he's already willing to make that.

Speaker 1 He don't care about that part. So if I'm just trying to change the shit,

Speaker 1 I have to start somewhere. So even if that says, when they was talking that build a wall shit last term, I was like, well, how the fuck long is that going to take? He ain't care.

Speaker 1 How long does the wall go up? It go up. Here, if it take five to ten years, he started.
And now his administration goes down as the one that's responsible for changing how this shit goes.

Speaker 1 And I, and I think you could do it. He's on some.
America the great. We could do it here.
We'll build the shit ourselves. We don't need these niggas, yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying it's right or wrong. No,

Speaker 1 again, I'm not. But I do understand the thing

Speaker 1 in what he's saying. I'm not totally against what he's saying.
I'm not totally against what he's saying, me personally.

Speaker 1 I'm not totally against what he's saying because I think theoretically he has a good point.

Speaker 1 I think we've leveraged our consumerism and we made all of these countries around the world strong if you look at india if you look at china if you look at some of these countries their

Speaker 1 uh whole gdp is predicated on us giving them money whether it's outsourcing telemarketing jobs or outsourcing economy like accounting manufacturing accounting manufacturing all that cool when we want to get these jobs back it's a slow process you understand what i'm saying you can't in my opinion this is my opinion is i think it's

Speaker 1 possible to get them jobs back

Speaker 1 that's the problem Because Americans are not doing it for them. That's what I'm going to do it for over there.
That may be true.

Speaker 1 But what I'm saying is whether it was Trump or somebody else,

Speaker 1 the person that comes in looks at hundreds of trillions of debt and says, you know what? I'm going to attempt to get this together.

Speaker 1 And then pulls out the account and just starts, all right, this don't go in no more.

Speaker 1 That person's going to be looked at as the bad guy.

Speaker 2 You know what this also doesn't address? What this also doesn't address, because what he's trying to talk, what he's doing is he's saying that the U.S. no longer manufactures their own goods.

Speaker 2 It's true.

Speaker 1 It's wrong.

Speaker 2 But what he's also not

Speaker 2 addressing is the fact that we also don't have the skilled labor force that would be able to occupy those jobs. Because guess what? He just shipped them all out of the fucking country.

Speaker 1 He didn't do that. No, that's part of his pitch.
His pitch is: I'm creating more jobs. He didn't ship them all.

Speaker 2 But with people who don't have the skills, China just literally made like an ad, and it was all of these, you know, regular Americans sewing you know sewing bras and sewing like you know like making all of these things that we use for our daily lives it was basically China saying you do not have the skilled labor force to occupy the jobs that you say you're bringing back to the country I think finally let's have a real talk about stereotypes I tell you all the Americans that I don't want working for me I think that's insulting

Speaker 2 no that's that's the

Speaker 2 insinuation

Speaker 1 around the country the problem is the people that are over here are going to make $22 an hour or $17 an hour. So now where's the- Because we coddle these 10-year-olds and say they can't make sneakers.

Speaker 1 Where's that going to? Where's that going to? Where's that going to?

Speaker 1 You're a fool, son. It's true, though.

Speaker 1 It's true. He's absolutely right.

Speaker 1 They're fucking coddling these 10-year-olds. What are they little assistants? Working little fingers.

Speaker 1 Hey, Jordan's got to come from somewhere.

Speaker 1 You guys are ridiculous. That is horrible.

Speaker 1 What's the price of them Jordans going to be? What's the price of them Levi's going to be? What's the price of the iPhones?

Speaker 1 No, I know. What's the price of the cars? And so that's the shit that we're gonna be bitching about.

Speaker 1 So even if his plan works, what's gonna happen when, because the greedy ass company owners are not gonna take less of a profit margin.

Speaker 1 No. Dog, right now, right now, today,

Speaker 1 the new Nintendo Switch was supposed to go up for pre-order. Yeah, it's still.
Yo. Yo, that's his shit.

Speaker 1 Fuck all his health care.

Speaker 1 Fuck all his health care.

Speaker 1 God damn it.

Speaker 1 There's a point here.

Speaker 1 There is a point here to what you just said.

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 1 It was supposed to go off a pre-order. Nintendo canceled it for America.
You cannot order it because they said, yo, we don't know how much it's going to cost due to tariffs. It's not made here.

Speaker 1 So sorry, y'all. We're not releasing yet.
This is

Speaker 1 one little piece. It's going to start happening with everything else.
I heard Corey was saying earlier, Mercedes said, yo, no, there's no more cars this year.

Speaker 1 I just got an email that said, all your little parts. They go up.
I just expect that's happening to me.

Speaker 1 They come from overseas, and the companies are not going to take the loss. If he's going to charge us X on the tariffs, we gonna charge y'all X in the news.
So we copping Genesises now, nigga.

Speaker 1 That's American?

Speaker 1 Japanese. Japanese.

Speaker 1 What's America? What's the American? Nothing. A Ford.
I couldn't tell you. A Ford.
A Buick.

Speaker 1 I like Buicks. You wouldn't drive one? Cadillac.
I would drive one. I drive Buick.
You crazy. To the store? Yeah, you think I'm some party I'm not.

Speaker 1 Today. And you manipulate the airwaves to paint the picture of that nasty person.

Speaker 1 I would drive a Buick. And if you hung out with me today, you would know I would drive a Buick.
Buick Cadillac. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, man.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Ford.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I manipulate the airwaves.
All he does. That's all he does.
That's what he says. That's all he does in the world.
That's what he does. All he does is manipulate the airwaves.

Speaker 1 That's what we do. That's what I find.
This guy is a nutcage. Shut up.
And you can manipulate it if you build it. Shut up, nigga.
This is the one thing I would add.

Speaker 1 True. Yeah.
I got you. You can't argue with that.
Shut up, man. This is the one thing I would add to the conversation.
I just think empires fall.

Speaker 1 Every empire in human history has fallen. We're Rome.
Yeah, they just, yeah, we're Rome. We're Rome right now.

Speaker 1 And from 1945 until now, or maybe about five years ago, the United States has been the superpower.

Speaker 1 There was a moment we were the shared superpower toward the end of this empire, but we are in decline. Trump's plans are based on this idea.
It's like a rapper that thinks they can make the comeback.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Or athlete that thinks they can make the comeback. That's a good one.
We can't make this comeback. The nations, the basic nations, Brazil, South Africa, India, China,

Speaker 1 they're they're on the rise. We don't have the military power to defeat these nations.
We don't have the economic power, and we don't have the diplomatic power because we lost the other two.

Speaker 1 You can only negotiate when you... So the idea going to Louis Vuitton, dick on the table, dick on the table is a great example.
It's just China

Speaker 1 is the person with moderately sized penis

Speaker 1 putting it on the table. I don't see you or anyone else convincing America of that, of those things.
I don't think America believes that at all. They don't.

Speaker 1 Whether they believe it or not, but they believe in it based on some egotistical ideal of what the country is. Well, that's part of the problem.

Speaker 1 The washed-up washed-up rapper don't think that he washed up. But you know what? The washed up ball player don't think he was upset.

Speaker 1 But you know, when they find out, you know, when they find out when they get back, when they get when somebody drops 40 on them or when their record don't sell, yeah, but in the same example, I like that example.

Speaker 1 The washed-up rapper does have a shot,

Speaker 1 maybe

Speaker 1 he does have a shot, but then you say

Speaker 1 it's not a good example, but

Speaker 1 because they're not really washed up.

Speaker 1 We're playing probabilities, no,

Speaker 1 no, we're talking about a washed-up rapper, and the chances would be even what it put it at 3%.

Speaker 1 It's a shot, right? But the problem is, what's the problem the difference with Washington Rapper is, if the other 97 plays out, nobody loses anything.

Speaker 1 You playing a 3% probability with the lives of millions and millions and millions of people. There's a 97% chance this is going to end up disastrous.

Speaker 1 And again, I don't know. Hundreds of millions.
I don't know enough about economics to speak to it intelligently, so I don't try not to talk about things I don't know about.

Speaker 1 But what I will say is every economist that I've spoken to, and I did an interview on Al Jazeera last week with

Speaker 1 Richard Wolfe, who's one of the leading economists in the world, and he brilliantly laid out, just like these Wharton economists that this can't work So for me I agree I think we all saying the same thing We needed a radical alternative We need this a departure from the status quo.

Speaker 1 This is just a bad one. It's just a bad one.
That's all I think or it's just done too abruptly. I also

Speaker 1 not to sound Trumpy again. I also don't want to hear niggas come tell me my idea is bad if ain't nobody else got an idea

Speaker 1 That's not true. I've heard that before.
I think what happens with him is when a nigga come with an idea that don't coincide with my idea, you got fired. Yes.

Speaker 1 Or,

Speaker 1 yo, Mr. Trump, I don't think we should be doing it this way.
You fired.

Speaker 1 Fam, he sat and told the Republican niggas in Congress, if y'all don't like Elon Musk, you could get out of here.

Speaker 1 People got kids to raise and college tuitions to pay and mortgages in high-ass D.C. I don't fuck with Elon Musk, boy.
So I'm just one of them cyber trucks.

Speaker 1 I would write Toyota on the back like the niggas doing.

Speaker 1 I would write fucking Buick or some shit. Dog.
Right on the back. So that's the point.
Like, yo, fam, I'm going to get along because I got bills to pay. I don't think the Republicans fuck with him.

Speaker 1 Here's a stupid question: five seconds or less. Where do y'all think humans come from?

Speaker 2 Monkeys. Adams.

Speaker 1 I have no idea. Humans were created.
I always say that by another species.

Speaker 1 Adams, we got monkeys. We got a different something.
Something created us. Hybrid.
Like the sea monkey shit that you have back full of kids and shit. We were an experiment and then left.

Speaker 1 Ish flip?

Speaker 1 Listen, I don't.

Speaker 1 I don't know how to answer that. Yeah, I don't know.
We've been talking all his political shit. Stephen A.
Smith announced yesterday on his Twitter that he is now open

Speaker 1 to running for president. That previously he said it was off the table, but now he, after looking at the country and the state that it's in, and

Speaker 1 after looking at the lack of candidates, the lack of a bench that Joe talked about, that he is considering a run for president and that he'll let us know in 2026, 2027, to be sure.

Speaker 1 In 2027, I'm going to let you know how the public looks at all that Max Kellerman shit in hindsight.

Speaker 1 Trumpish. That's all I have on the matter.
Trumpish? I don't have nothing else in the matter.

Speaker 1 I don't have not saying nothing else in the matter. Stephen A is a friend of the show.
Same. I fuck with him.
I see what he's doing. If you had 2% of whatever, maybe you do the same.

Speaker 1 Some of his actions over recent years will be called into question if he ends up on war. That's all I'm saying.
My advice to him, and I love Stephen A.

Speaker 1 He's my friend, is you just signed a $100 million deal

Speaker 1 for five years. It's $20 million a year.
Do not jeopardize the brand. Because once you run for president, half the ESPN audience don't fuck with you.

Speaker 1 One side or the other. I don't care what you run.

Speaker 1 Half of them don't fuck with you. And I don't know if you can ever recover that.
So unless you're sure you're going to win, And I'm sure he is not. That's not safe to say.
What?

Speaker 1 That you lose half of the ESPN audience. You will.
You don't know that. Okay, well, how about that? You don't know that ESPN as a whole is not really covertly a right-wing channel altogether.

Speaker 1 It could be. Oh, you say it could be more? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. I'm saying it could be worse.
No way. He's running as a Democrat.
That's the thing. He's going to run as a Democrat.

Speaker 1 So he's running against MAGA. He's running against J.D.
Vin. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I'm saying all the NASCAR watching motherfuckers ain't going to, they're suddenly not going to think that Stephen A is all right with me. They're going to start saying we don't fuck with him.

Speaker 1 Depending on what he says. And ain't no way to run for president and not say something against him if you run in the win.

Speaker 1 I don't know that to be true either, Mark. I don't know that that's true.
I think this. We just said that.
Because the Democrats have had a problem with messaging.

Speaker 1 Oh, you said if you run it, just don't say shit. Or say something that appeals to all.

Speaker 1 Or he could get up there on his OJ shit. I don't see color.

Speaker 1 You don't know what he might say as a black man running. That's fair.
I mean, I will say based on his recent press run.

Speaker 1 where he's been giving political opinions, but nobody, they still think it's cute because he's still mainly talking about basketball.

Speaker 1 He could pivot because people pivot when they run for office, that's fair. But if he don't pivot and he stays the track he's on, I don't think it's worth it.

Speaker 1 You know, I was asked to run for Green Party vice president

Speaker 1 in 16. And the reason I didn't run for a minute.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Just slow down.

Speaker 1 My VP looked like me.

Speaker 1 You be saying shit so smooth.

Speaker 1 You got asked to run for Green Points. Green Party.
Green Party, nigga. Green.

Speaker 1 Green Points. Green fuckers.
Green Dark. That's Green Point.
That's Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 I thought that's what he was talking about, nigga. You can be my Brooklyn brother.

Speaker 1 The Green Party, Jill Stein was at the top of the ticket, and she asked me to be her running mate in 2016.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 she called me in July, July of 2016 and said, Do you want to run? And

Speaker 1 I had the same consideration. I mean, obviously, I wasn't going to win, but I had the same considerations.
Like,

Speaker 1 assuming I don't win, what's at stake? Are you single in 2016?

Speaker 1 What hour is this in the show?

Speaker 1 Three.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I was single enough.
Yeah, yeah. I was outside.
Got it, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 but here's what I thought. I thought a couple of things.
One,

Speaker 1 if Donald Trump loses, that's not true. My first thought was financial.
When you run for president, you have to leave all your journalism jobs.

Speaker 1 You cannot have a journalism job and run for political office. So they let you out of your contract to do it.

Speaker 1 Now, if they they fuck with you, because this happens on CNN all the time, all those political commentators that run for Senate, CNN lets them out of their contract or MSN, MSNBC or whoever, they let you out of the contract.

Speaker 1 And then once your run is over, they just give you a new deal. But if they don't like you, they use that as the out clause and don't give you the new deal.

Speaker 1 They don't have to give you a new deal because that's in all the clauses.

Speaker 1 Stephen A. would be banking that after his run is over, that ESPN would welcome him back.
with another deal and they might

Speaker 1 you know and i'm speculating on his deal he could have a very unique deal but this is 99% of deals.

Speaker 1 But if you say the wrong thing on that trail, or something gets exposed, or this, you know, all these stories come up from the past. I'm not talking about personal stuff.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about professional stuff.

Speaker 1 You might be in a worse negotiating position.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 you could be worth 200 million. I'm on the other side of that.
Or you could be worth 200. I think this is the beginning of Stephen A.

Speaker 1 kissing ESPN goodbye as a whole altogether. I think that he may have learned some things during this negotiation process that left him a little peeved.

Speaker 1 I don't really know that that 20 million number is a number that he was happy with. And if you do this presidential shit, win, lose, or draw.
Draw. What comes from that?

Speaker 1 The numbers that these niggas get on the book tip, on the speaking tip, I don't think he's looking at 20 million a year ever again. Peace.

Speaker 1 That might be true. I think this would be the proper propelling of his independent career.

Speaker 1 If it goes well.

Speaker 1 And now I have a podcast. I don't want to tell you about the money that the Obamas have gotten in podcast world without releasing a thing.
That's true.

Speaker 1 They also won.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 that's a two-part thing. You did say also if you're a journalist, they let you out your contracts, right? Yeah.
They force you out of your contract.

Speaker 1 You can have an out. Who says it's not consistent? Ish.

Speaker 1 The Obamas got multiple podcast bags? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 They got huge podcasts.

Speaker 1 I know they got the one big one. No, they got multiple big ones.

Speaker 1 Not just one. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, they're getting getting crazy. Yeah, they got some some different shit.
But again, shit worked out.

Speaker 1 When is there going to be a time when Michelle or Barack can't walk in the office and say, I'm demanding eight figures to talk?

Speaker 1 There's not going to be a time where that don't happen. Man, you could go do a commencement speech for a university and get seven figures.
Yeah, but

Speaker 1 that's because they won. We wouldn't say that about Howard Dean.
We wouldn't say that about John Edwards. You're right.
I mean, there's a lot of people who there was a moment where they were the shit.

Speaker 1 John Edwards is rich, though. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 he can't get a speech

Speaker 1 at Kings, in front of Kings, right? Like, there's a way that you just can't.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't risk it if I were him. And then the other thing is, how does your core audience feel about you? The reason I didn't go on the VP ticket was

Speaker 1 if Trump wins, and I thought Hillary Clinton was going to win. I did too.
But I said, if Trump wins and we're the spoiler,

Speaker 1 black people are going to hate me. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So I'm just saying, if J.D. Vance wins, or if the wrong person wins and he's part of a ticket that took away away votes, people are going to resent the shit out of people.

Speaker 1 People hate tweet me every day for just voting green. Right? They send Joe Stein death threats for being the candidate.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, Stephen A has managed to make a wonderful brand. There's no one like him.
He's the best at what he does ever.

Speaker 1 I don't know. It just seems like too much of a risk with too little of a reward.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 We did it, Joe.

Speaker 1 That was a real thing. We killed it.
We killed that shit. And I let it rock.
I didn't step on it. We did our mature thing.
Tariffs, president. We did it, right? We did it.
We did it. Hey.

Speaker 1 Take a look. All right.
It's your book. A reading rainbow.

Speaker 1 I got that shit in me like fucking

Speaker 1 like flip. Flip say you can't sit still for too long.
I can't be mature for too long. I can sit still.
That was a great great run.

Speaker 1 Yeah, too long of a run for me. I can't.
I'm still. You that good, though? Yeah, when I'm 47, I'm 48, maybe, but not right now.
You said that about 44. He sure did.

Speaker 1 Sorry, though. I changed my mind.
We know. 44 came too close.
I'm too lit still to be mature.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 All right, we do have a part of the show from someone named Deron P.

Speaker 1 What up, Deron? What's up, DP? Deron P says,

Speaker 1 hey, entire JBP cast, I have a difficult question I need help with. I found out some years back that my mother's father, my grandfather, was not her biological father.

Speaker 1 When I brought up the topic and wanting to know who my biological grandfather is, she doesn't really give any details and tries to ignore the subject. There's one sensitive subjects here.

Speaker 1 I only want to know because for one reason, her stepfather passed away 12 years ago. which led me to wanting to know who my biological grandfather is.

Speaker 1 I always wondered growing up why my mom was treated differently from her brothers and sisters

Speaker 1 were, and my grandmother always tried to protect her from the bad treatment from siblings and my grandfather.

Speaker 1 How do I approach this question and express to my mother how important that information is to me and my family? A little backstory.

Speaker 1 I'm in my late 30s and have had some health issues arise and family medical history has become more important to me in the past than in the past. Thank you all for your help.

Speaker 1 I think that's great question.

Speaker 2 I think that's the approach is to know what the actual family medical history is because,

Speaker 2 you know, otherwise you're just kind of like flying blind.

Speaker 2 And at that age, you really want to know, you know, what might be coming down the pipeline on you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it sounds like he's tried that and they've avoided the issue. And I think we do in best case scenario.
We don't necessarily know how this lady was conceived.

Speaker 1 And it might be something way more.

Speaker 2 That might be why she's hiding. Like why she's hiding the story is because she doesn't have all the information herself.

Speaker 1 Or the information is in the background.

Speaker 1 in the pain. That's true, true.

Speaker 1 I always like to give, as awful as the story sounds sometimes when people don't give information or something happens, I always try to give the person the benefit of the doubt, especially women in this situation because there's a lot of factors like shame and pain and all this other shit that we don't often think about.

Speaker 1 I agree with Isha on that. But I think the good thing about this moment is, and obviously I've been through this, so I understand.

Speaker 1 There's other means. You know, a lot of people find out who they, you know, who their parents are.
23 and

Speaker 1 ancestry,

Speaker 1 yeah. Like, I would say try and find other means if your mom doesn't help you, but also approach it from a place of

Speaker 1 not saying, why is my mom being so stubborn or awful about this thing, but saying, like, why might she not want to give me this information?

Speaker 1 That was great, by the way. Question to all of you.
Do you guys think that your immediate family

Speaker 1 do you guys think that you should know your immediate family's traumas?

Speaker 1 yeah yeah i i don't

Speaker 1 all all no maybe not all i don't um

Speaker 1 i

Speaker 1 for for the

Speaker 1 i don't necessarily agree with that but for the people

Speaker 1 that you should know their traumas i was asking this question but for the people that subscribe to yo trauma is genetic then

Speaker 1 if it's genetic, you're going to find out when it's in you, nigga. Yeah, but you want to know why you are responding to certain shit the way you respond.

Speaker 1 I think my family is very open about that type of shit with each other. I think we've, at least I'll try to speak for all of us, we help each other because some of us go through similar shit.

Speaker 1 And if my sister or my mother or whatever is going through something that I went through or vice versa, we can help each other out. I think it's like, crazy to not share that.

Speaker 1 Now, granted, there may be some things that you want to keep private. So you stand on the side of yes.
Yes. For the most part.
Gotcha. There are some things, again, maybe

Speaker 1 you don't want to share.

Speaker 1 It's funny, when I was doing the human series, some of the white families I was meeting, I found that they were keeping things secret because they couldn't go to dad and talk about depression or, and then dad couldn't go to his dad and talk about depression and things that I was struggling with.

Speaker 1 So it's good to hear. You say that about your family.

Speaker 1 But when you say that, I think equally, like mom and dad, y'all are good talking about that shit just all around the board or is one my mom is way better than my dad for sure and that's what it i typically find yeah yeah the man we we suppress a lot of yeah me and my mom could talk about whatever i don't know if i really know anything that my dad is traumatized about yeah man i don't know suppress that like both of mine are terrible

Speaker 1 i was grown when i found out that my pops wasn't away at college was in prison

Speaker 1 i didn't even know that like that was his story that he was telling me writing letters and stuff and telling me he was away at school and i believed it until it that that was let slip to me when i was what 21 years old Wow.

Speaker 1 I was like, wait, what? No, no, he wasn't. And then I had a conversation with him.

Speaker 1 And that's the truth. So it's, I don't know nothing about that side of the family like that.
Got it. Shit, that tramp, you know, medical shit, nothing wasn't penned state.
State pen.

Speaker 1 Hey, got it, got it. All right, I don't have anything else for y'all.
I didn't mean to make anybody say that. No, no, no, no.
We good. We good.
We still good. Sorry.
We still good. That's right.

Speaker 1 All right. Now we do sleepers.
Hey, let's get to it.

Speaker 1 The sleeper king has returned. Ish is here.
I want to hit the round of applause button for Ish.

Speaker 1 I was going to be a messy bitch and play Ish everything that Mel said before her sleeper last week when I said... You heard about it already.
Yeah, but the funny thing, God, man, has this

Speaker 1 ironic sense of you because she'd be playing the shit. So you did all of that talking.
I did.

Speaker 2 I talked so much shit.

Speaker 1 And then played a sleeper that Ish had played a few weeks prior.

Speaker 2 That shit was so fire. I had to play it again.

Speaker 1 Now reaching for the dap. Look, now I'm trying to get the dap.
Now I'm trying to get get the dap.

Speaker 1 Pressure them into the dap. It's better than me.
You'd have never got that dap. You'd have never got that dap.

Speaker 1 Let's see. Let's see.
What are we doing? Yeah, right. I should have Republican dress.

Speaker 1 Let's see. What are we going with? So many things to choose from.

Speaker 1 I am going with the artist.

Speaker 1 And this one is called

Speaker 1 Let's Go.

Speaker 1 And I've been trying to decide if the grass is green on your side. I know that

Speaker 1 you've been putting in the work just to show that.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry that my fears make me all back.

Speaker 1 Just time for your heart as long.

Speaker 1 Know that I don't wanna be alone.

Speaker 1 Other women that I have known

Speaker 1 never showed me the love you have shown. Other reasons to let you go.

Speaker 1 I can't seem to find it. Is it my fault?

Speaker 1 Can you blame me for the weight inside my heart? Knowing all, knowing all, oh.

Speaker 1 The things that I've been through.

Speaker 1 The way I had to move.

Speaker 1 Somehow I still want, still want my love from you.

Speaker 1 Battling these fears, I won't let them in.

Speaker 1 Breaking down my walls, trying to fight it all.

Speaker 1 Need a way to settle in. Don't wanna give you up.
Don't wanna give me up.

Speaker 1 I've been, but I won't break.

Speaker 1 And if it's time, we can take

Speaker 1 my fear of losing you. I can shake.
Baby, please tell me your way.

Speaker 1 Other women that I have known never showed me the love you have shown.

Speaker 1 Other reasons to let you go,

Speaker 1 I can't seem to find it. Is it my fault?

Speaker 1 Can you blame me for the weight inside my heart? Going on, knowing all

Speaker 1 the things that I've been through.

Speaker 1 The way you're at two.

Speaker 1 Somehow, still

Speaker 1 I want

Speaker 1 love. You

Speaker 1 is it my fault?

Speaker 1 Can you blame me for the weight inside my heart? Knowing all that I know,

Speaker 1 the things that I've been through.

Speaker 1 The way I had to move,

Speaker 1 Summer Stewart.

Speaker 1 Still,

Speaker 1 my love. You

Speaker 1 inside my heart.

Speaker 1 I miss when you rappers would just hop on the end of a record nobody asked you to hop on.

Speaker 1 That is the artist. That record is called Inside My Heart.
Available on your phone and on DSPs right this second.

Speaker 1 All right, that was cool. I'm going down to Texas with this one.
This is Stay by Dende and Roy Woods.

Speaker 1 Afro beats.

Speaker 1 What around towns, you've been looking for something.

Speaker 1 Me as well, ain't got time to wait.

Speaker 1 Correct me if I'm making assumptions.

Speaker 1 But I know they mean you would be great.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 and Jay.

Speaker 1 Think out from days, till I see you again.

Speaker 1 Sun's trying to rain with words that ain't too great.

Speaker 1 What I'm trying to say is: I just want you to stay

Speaker 1 for

Speaker 1 the rocket. You deserve the dark and I want you on the pain

Speaker 1 from morning to night.

Speaker 1 No, I treat you right. Ain't no reason to fight this feeling, your eyes reveal.
And you know, just what I'ma say. That I want you all to me.

Speaker 1 Uh, yeah, I just want you to stay, pay.

Speaker 1 Topic of conversation. Where do we get started? Where do we end? But I don't wanna have no conversation.

Speaker 1 I just wanna see your body naked. Feel it skin to skin.
All this melanin like a begging man girl, I'm vulnerable. If I make a mistake, I'm accountable.
Me Me and all of my doubts are inseparable.

Speaker 1 Only me and women have to let them go. Either for the strange or just self-scale.
What's the point of staying when you keep me waiting? I'm just hurting myself, you don't catch it, though.

Speaker 1 Are you mad at me or not?

Speaker 1 Are you loving me or not?

Speaker 1 Are you gon' live or not?

Speaker 1 Cause I can't take it. I just want you to stay

Speaker 1 for what's in the bargain. You just have to darken.
I want you all to pay.

Speaker 1 For morning and night, know about you tonight.

Speaker 1 Ain't no reason to cry.

Speaker 1 Cause we let your eyes feeling alone. Just what I'ma say.

Speaker 1 I want you all to pay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just want you to stay, pay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just want you to stay.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 I want you to stay,

Speaker 1 just want you to say,

Speaker 1 say loud

Speaker 1 You say it's all for me

Speaker 1 Picture perfect, you're the object of my dreams

Speaker 1 And that record again is stay by Denday and Roy Woods off of his new EP I am because you are.

Speaker 1 That was

Speaker 1 tough. Yeah, no, Denday is tough.
It's my man. Shout out to Dende.

Speaker 1 I play new old music. This is Rod Digger Straight Spin.

Speaker 1 Should have put it on the list, man. Definitely.

Speaker 1 About to make a killing off, Ellen off behind you. Put it on the rapper like they're working out top.

Speaker 1 Here to make a statement, not on your game, you gon' catch it like the table.

Speaker 1 And so from this point, don't be straight spittin'.

Speaker 1 My shit is tight, it's not the damn tightest. My stats stay bubbling, how Pepsi and Spritest.
Make a bitch jealous to the point she wanna slice with.

Speaker 1 Fuck a nigga head up like the ex-girlfriend dyke, bitch. The license, won't run like you decide.

Speaker 1 Won't suffice, man. Where you drop the tape, baby, I'd done took it.
Some more dickin' thing

Speaker 1 I spit clean versions, for underage thug rats. I spit with Brick City, more my real thugs at.
I spit shit, cause I'm in a bad mood for when my life wasn't shit but bad weed and fast food.

Speaker 1 I spit, spit, spit and make executive decisions. I spent some shit for all the scrubs and the pigeons.
And best believe me, I'm going, you a corner. I spent more rhymes in Silicon California.

Speaker 1 I spent spit fibers all in jokers at the pool hall. Carrying my daughter on my back just to fool y'all.
I better take, say, and prayer with my sense ain't.

Speaker 1 I spit on this TV all the way down to your mixtape. Like that, all the illuss with your mouthpiece.
Crazy like South Park and hotter than self-profits. Cause all that blinds ain't flying.

Speaker 1 And so from this point, you're straight spitting. Still, what? I spit shit and leave it scarred like a faceless.
I spin for the underground. Hot 97 feet of matrix.
One, two, hit them with the bases.

Speaker 1 Who will stay hitting? Who be straight spitting? I'll take the mic and rock it like.

Speaker 1 I'll make you right, get rap tonight. Cause you never heard the honey spit rhymes like.
Said you never heard the honey spit rhymes like

Speaker 1 in a million years and a million bears. That you never heard a honey spit robes like cause all that blinds ain't fly.

Speaker 1 And so from this point, don't be straight spitting. Yeah, what? When you hear a bitch crying, raise your lighters.
Spitting on behalf of Flint Modern outsiders. Cider, sider, sider.

Speaker 1 Straight spit, part two, Rod Digger. Again, gotta be somewhere in that top 20, 45, whatever that is.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Digger, always.

Speaker 1 I'm going to, pardon me, sir. Your words?

Speaker 1 Shanta's Groove featuring uh Zenae Soul

Speaker 1 and a song

Speaker 1 is by uh Honest Guy. The honest guy.

Speaker 1 Cause I wanna love you anyway.

Speaker 1 And I wanna see you every day. And I want to love you everywhere.
I suggest you never hesitate. Cause I wanna love you.

Speaker 1 I wanna love you over.

Speaker 1 Me, I'm your rider, soldier.

Speaker 1 You get my love and feel, babe.

Speaker 1 Girl, put your hand up.

Speaker 1 I,

Speaker 1 I,

Speaker 1 wanna love you, tell you to be,

Speaker 1 baby.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna love you over again.

Speaker 1 Love you all again,

Speaker 1 again.

Speaker 1 Doubt, bounce.

Speaker 1 Doubt, bounce.

Speaker 1 So captivated.

Speaker 1 The way you swing turns me on.

Speaker 1 I'm activated.

Speaker 1 I wanna love you all night long.

Speaker 1 Wanna love you again,

Speaker 1 baby.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna love you all again.

Speaker 1 Love you all again,

Speaker 1 again.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Bounce, bounce,

Speaker 1 mm.

Speaker 1 Dance,

Speaker 1 down.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm falling.

Speaker 1 I'm falling. Dancy has to fall.

Speaker 1 Fall in love.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm falling.

Speaker 1 I'm falling. Dancy has to fall.

Speaker 1 Fall in love. Oh, and she goes, That's the love of my life.

Speaker 1 I didn't find my love enough.

Speaker 1 Oh, then she knows that's the love of mine.

Speaker 1 I'd never find my love enough.

Speaker 1 Won't love you again.

Speaker 1 My alive.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna love you over again.

Speaker 1 That is the honest guy,

Speaker 1 Shanta's Groove with Zay Soul.

Speaker 1 That was that was dope. That's folky.

Speaker 1 I fuck with it.

Speaker 1 Big Bell.

Speaker 2 Mine is by Kevin Ross. It's called Spin.

Speaker 2 I was about to play a song that Kevin Ross in it, but I didn't play it.

Speaker 2 Kevin Ross song.

Speaker 2 Heard you back outside on home.

Speaker 2 All that ass like bum bum bum.

Speaker 2 Sweet like cocoa, I came from.

Speaker 2 You already touched you on my gun.

Speaker 2 You're going leapy in the whip whip Throw you over like a sheriff You got traffic at attention I can't miss this, I can't miss you the way you did And you know it And it's too hard to keep focused Tryna make waves in your ocean I can't miss this, I can't miss you

Speaker 2 Got a spinner, spinner, spinner block for you

Speaker 2 You're a winner

Speaker 2 two.

Speaker 2 Got a spinner, spinner, spin the block for you.

Speaker 2 Girl, I can't lie, yeah, yeah. No best I need and it's still fire, yeah.

Speaker 2 Over me, taking me high, yeah, yeah. Red league, keeping me spy, yeah, yeah.
Bang, bang, bang, bang, can't keep it in the holster.

Speaker 2 Dark rocks tripping like forgers. People you should be up on a poster.

Speaker 2 Know I had to a cruncher, but you hit a beep, beep. You know whip whip, whip.
Pull you over like a sheriff. You got traffic at attention.

Speaker 2 I can't miss this. I can't miss you.
Run when you did. And you know it.
And it's too hard to keep focused. Tryna make waves in your ocean.
I can't miss this. I can't miss you.

Speaker 2 Got a spinner, spinner, spinner black for you.

Speaker 2 You're a winner, winner, and I'm number two.

Speaker 2 Gotta spin up, there's been nothing, there's been no block for you

Speaker 1 says Kevin Ross Spin.

Speaker 1 Nice little spring, summer vibe.

Speaker 1 Flip,

Speaker 1 yo. You got something you want to play, right? Yeah, my sleeper is from Molly

Speaker 1 featuring Shensia and Skilly Bang Shake It to the Max remix.

Speaker 1 Please just rewind, let me shake it to the max.

Speaker 1 Check it to the max.

Speaker 1 Check it to the max. Bad man, she love.

Speaker 1 Check it to the madman, she love. Please just rewind, let me shake it to the body.

Speaker 1 Bad man, she love, bad man, she love, yeah. Bad man, she love, bad man, she love, bad man, she love, yeah, bad man, she love, bad man, she love, yeah.

Speaker 1 Your pussy fatina your side.

Speaker 1 Are you dealing with the past? Yeah, make your come for school and never take a last.

Speaker 1 Like a ball, pump up the pussy fast.

Speaker 1 Skin out the pussy for me for king.

Speaker 1 Galo make a keybrad. Original gal, some of them madinaka.

Speaker 1 And if you hear this and they go on at the back, go the knees, maybe shake it to the max. Can you please tell me pace to the max? Please just rewind, let me shake it to the max.

Speaker 1 Shake it to the max.

Speaker 1 Shake it to the max.

Speaker 1 Shake it to the max. Please just rewind.
Let me shake it to the max. Carry me, young girl, me know for tick, me know for tap.
Mana watch nobody likes the day no watch a match.

Speaker 1 Anything inside them girl, I do it like it's tap. But make my own a money like the cursing movie trap.
Nasty,

Speaker 1 real bad, gal, my get nasty. I know what the gama watch become a passy.
Yes, I'm the one in charge. They forget my pumps and I'm still falling along.

Speaker 1 And I any, anybody can touch this.

Speaker 1 Baby, I am not a hawk. Right sand peas, buddy, half a tunnel.

Speaker 1 I'll be bigger tea, yes, anyway, yes, see my pause. And if you hear this and I come at your back, come at your knees, baby, shake it to the max.
Did you please tell how they pays to the max?

Speaker 1 Please just rewind, let me shake it to the max.

Speaker 1 Check it to the max.

Speaker 1 Check it to the max.

Speaker 1 Check it to the max. Please just rewind, let me shake it to the max.

Speaker 1 I'm not to feel number one in command. I came just to kill me and two million times.
They want cigarettes, but I don't need a mask. So they love telling me one in the true milligan.

Speaker 1 You're dealing with the party, of course.

Speaker 1 Oh, you did it with the boss. If we break up, then you know that it's a loss.

Speaker 1 Upgrading every dude that ever tossed.

Speaker 1 Said you want me, but you can't touch this.

Speaker 1 Baby, I already leveled up. You looking for love, and I'm looking for your love.

Speaker 1 Baby, you can handle all these thoughts. And if you hear this on, then go on bend your back.
Come on, bend your knees, baby, shake it to the max. With a ding degree, ten, all the pays to the max.

Speaker 1 Please just rewind, let me shake it to the max.

Speaker 1 Check it to the max.

Speaker 1 Check it to the max.

Speaker 1 Check, check it to B Max. Please just be waiting.

Speaker 1 Salute, salute. Shin's it is so good at Leslie.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's about to shoot every shit. She's

Speaker 1 a shit.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Molly. Shout out to Shin C.
Shout out to Absolute Best.

Speaker 1 Shout out to everybody on the record. Yes, yes.
They got a video for that song? They do got a video for the song, bro. They do got a video for the song, Amazing Video.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to watch it. Yeah, personally.
Really? Watch that one. Watch that in the Apple Vision.
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 We'll go get an Apple Vision to watch it.

Speaker 1 Y'all would would beat off the Shincia? No. No.
No, that's gross, Joe. No, I wouldn't do that, Joe.
Y'all sitting here on a fucking 10-minute monologue about it.

Speaker 1 No, no, I was talking about just the song.

Speaker 1 Chicken Vision. The Max.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Some of y'all. All right, never mind.
Don't worry, biggest. You down with me, yo.

Speaker 1 Anywhere I go, you go, nigga. Chansey? Shiggs and Max, yeah.
We're going to meet again. I went to album release.
I know.

Speaker 1 Yo, stop. You got the phone number.
Why wouldn't you add an album release again? Yeah. He just be doing shit.
Yeah, I heard him while he was there. I heard he was there.
I didn't believe it. But why?

Speaker 1 This nigga's nuts.

Speaker 1 Fuck you doing, nigga. You don't listen to reggae.
You just assuming I'm joking, but assume I'm not. Why were you there?

Speaker 1 My lawyer,

Speaker 2 representer?

Speaker 1 Bro, anyway, bro. I'm not even getting into all of that, bro.

Speaker 1 You're such a shady boy.

Speaker 1 I just. You shady like me.

Speaker 1 Hey, Mark. You shady.
I'm not shady.

Speaker 2 It was a legit question. I mean, you know, that.

Speaker 1 Mark.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, hold on. Mark.
Clay Sleeper, man. You You just think that we don't know about your shady because you knew it, man.
That nigga's shady as hell.

Speaker 1 Super. What? The shadiest, actually.

Speaker 1 Nah. You high up there.
He's the shadiest.

Speaker 1 Them to a different level.

Speaker 1 Me and Mel.

Speaker 1 I ain't in with Mel.

Speaker 1 You on that level, though. Nah.
Wait.

Speaker 1 I'm not down with Mel. I'm shady.

Speaker 1 But I'm not down with Mel's level of shady. Mel heart is not red.

Speaker 1 She on black heart.

Speaker 1 Nah, dead ass. What Paul App Doo Doo says she's a cold-hearted snake.
Look into his eyes. Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Girl, yeah.

Speaker 1 I like Paul Lab, but I don't get it. Shout out to you, Bullet.
Go ahead, go ahead, Guy Mark. Get your bag, man.
You got Sleeper? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Instead of new old music is old new music. Like John B.
got a new album out. Hey,

Speaker 1 and a shout out to John B. Hopefully this one is his.
Yeah, I hope he's getting paid. Hopefully, he can make the money off his album.
That's the shit Babyface did. 50 cents

Speaker 1 for the gentleman. Because John B came up here and told us Babyface.

Speaker 1 burnt team basically no he said he never made a dollar from ever wow well this is independently released not one dollar yeah that's crazy this is independently released great album by the way and this song is called show me with alex osley

Speaker 1 oh yeah i heard this i heard this already yeah this is fire this is fire

Speaker 1 you can't.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 1 yes, that's what I do.

Speaker 1 Show me

Speaker 1 all,

Speaker 1 there's no way

Speaker 1 I can't define this place.

Speaker 1 How we end up here this way.

Speaker 1 I'll never know.

Speaker 1 But it's you that keeps the pace. I'm traveling as fast as your face.

Speaker 1 Can stare out in space. Anywhere you float.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you show.

Speaker 1 Show me how to let go.

Speaker 1 Show me how to let go.

Speaker 1 Let go

Speaker 1 in you.

Speaker 1 Show me,

Speaker 1 show me, show me, show me how

Speaker 1 it goes.

Speaker 1 Show me how it goes.

Speaker 1 Let go

Speaker 1 in you.

Speaker 1 See, you wanna show me more

Speaker 1 of this promise.

Speaker 1 You just wanna show me everything

Speaker 1 that can come next.

Speaker 1 I'll head on your words to sun down.

Speaker 1 If it takes that

Speaker 1 song,

Speaker 1 then I'll go and fall. This will be

Speaker 1 all right.

Speaker 1 And there's all you

Speaker 1 want to hold and wanna be

Speaker 1 made room for mine. Make room for

Speaker 1 love,

Speaker 1 make one for another

Speaker 1 time.

Speaker 1 You should

Speaker 1 show me

Speaker 1 all the shoulder.

Speaker 1 Can you hold on to me?

Speaker 1 Shoulder, shoulder,

Speaker 1 and then let go of the world.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can see, baby.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can see.

Speaker 1 Shoulder, shoulder, shoulder.

Speaker 1 Show that.

Speaker 1 Show that it's good and good.

Speaker 1 Show me the show.

Speaker 1 Show me.

Speaker 1 Show me where we

Speaker 1 show me and don't

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 for

Speaker 1 a new

Speaker 1 world

Speaker 1 new John B

Speaker 1 and Alex Isley show.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Hit him.

Speaker 1 Nice album. Nice slow stroke tunes.
Yeah, I mean, anytime they got the fairy dust music at the end,

Speaker 1 yeah, they hit him with a little

Speaker 1 slow stroke on it.

Speaker 1 Everybody kills sleepers.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't need the round of applause. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 I need the round of applause. I did enjoy it.

Speaker 1 Everybody sleep. sleeping, I did.

Speaker 1 Some were playing it just on the love of music.

Speaker 1 Some were playing it just on five-hours, y'all. Play your sleepers, man.
What you did the other reasons is for. Oh, I know what they're for.

Speaker 1 I know what they're for.

Speaker 1 Probably not for the public anyway. You want to enlighten us?

Speaker 1 Which one played it for something else?

Speaker 1 Is it important? Yeah, which one? You, for sure.

Speaker 1 For sure, you. I'm just working with them.
Shout out to Gamma. Just doing some workouts.

Speaker 1 Somebody trying to put some money in my pocket. So you know how it go.

Speaker 1 A little quid pro quo. It's a great endorsement.

Speaker 1 Tell them to keep you in mind for their summer program.

Speaker 1 Workshop.

Speaker 1 That's what I think. Tell them, don't forget you.
Oh, man. Stupid.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 I'm absolutely done.

Speaker 1 Except for two things. Oh, shit.
One,

Speaker 1 I recently bumped into somebody putting a compilation together of A.R. Ab snitching on himself on video.

Speaker 1 You got the one in there where he talked about his man that committed the murders? Why are you pointing at me? That's how he did it in the middle of the day. Have y'all heard this thing?

Speaker 1 Bro, this is the... Mark, are you from Philly? Yeah, yeah, please.
Explain this. Shout out to my brother A.R.
Ab. Hold your head.
I fuck with his music. Shout out to my brother, too.

Speaker 1 I don't make no money off, brat.

Speaker 1 I stark people. Because I kidnap niggas.
I rob niggas.

Speaker 1 I I killed niggas. I got a lot of shit out of here.

Speaker 1 To keep it all your real, I robbed a couple niggas. I took some bricks from some people.

Speaker 1 Recently, right?

Speaker 1 Well, I asked that I was selling somebody some crap.

Speaker 1 I was serving somebody some crap.

Speaker 1 I stored motherfuckers, too.

Speaker 1 And I watched him grow up.

Speaker 1 This is it. He's first guy in the streets.
He came to me. He house, he sold drugs to me.
This is what I like about skinny meme.

Speaker 1 This is what I like about skinny me music, man.

Speaker 1 It's just raw. It's dude.

Speaker 1 And it's like reality rack. Mafia.
Skinny Mia go through a situation, and guess what? It's going to be in the song. He's going to make a song about the same day.
So I know.

Speaker 1 That's why I feel it so much. I know it.

Speaker 1 When he said, I killed the nigga, and I did that. I've seen him do it.

Speaker 1 Oh, come on.

Speaker 1 No, that's real. It's more.
No, it's real. It's real.
I know other lines from interviews. I've been watching his interviews.
They're like must-CT. Yeah, Yeah, they're classic.

Speaker 1 I remember like 2009, 2010, I hit Ab up, like, because I hadn't seen him on YouTube where he was showing, like, I guess it was like the crack spot. Yeah.
He's like, this is where we sell crack.

Speaker 1 Oh, my. And I was like, bro, like, just on some.
And I, it's my first time interacting with him. So he ain't know me yet.
But I was like, yo, like, you should probably not do that.

Speaker 1 Like, this is a really bad idea. Like, the feds is looking.
They watch this shit and they make, you know what I mean? He was like, I appreciate your advice. He was all love.
I love that dude, man.

Speaker 1 But he was like, it's all, it was, he said, I appreciate your advice. But

Speaker 1 this just, it's just, basically, like, it's just TV. Like, don't nobody care about this.
I'm going to be straight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, did it result in anything? He's in jail. He's not in jail forever.
He's not straight.

Speaker 1 He's gone. Narrator, he was not straight.
He was gone.

Speaker 1 He has like five life sentences. He's in jail for ever.
No, he doesn't. He's got life.
He didn't get. What are you talking about? He got five sentences.
He didn't got life or something crazy.

Speaker 1 They gave him a trillion years.

Speaker 1 No, yes, he does.

Speaker 1 I like him getting that. We can find out.
I thought it was 40-something years.

Speaker 1 It's something crazy. I mean,

Speaker 1 he got 45 years. Yeah, he got 45 years.
Yeah, I mean. Oh, you can come home if that's state.
That's what I'm saying. That's not the fuck you talking about, yo.

Speaker 1 I mean, the average black is 65, and he's like 35. But yeah,

Speaker 1 how old is he right now? 40-something. That's what I'm saying.
Like, I mean, but he's down to do the whole thing. How much time do you got to do on a 45? I don't know.
I'm not sure. It's state time.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 state time. It ain't no 35.
Yeah. You can come home.

Speaker 1 Wait, maybe he did do federal.

Speaker 1 He had federal and state charges. Let me see.
I don't know. Bro, he was on one of them joints and was like, yo, I think it was his cousin or something.
He was the plug.

Speaker 1 And then when he went down, I took it from him. He did.
So I got the whole operation from him, and now I run it. I said, shout out to that, man.
Shout out to the old Philly.

Speaker 1 And more important news:

Speaker 1 video footage has now been released of Caitlin Clark playing basketball against Iowa's men's practice squad.

Speaker 1 She lay them up.

Speaker 1 She cooked him up.

Speaker 1 22 points in two minutes.

Speaker 1 What? Stop it.

Speaker 1 And she had told a story before

Speaker 1 the practices. There's one iconic scrimmage.
There is. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But nobody knows if it actually happened because...

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. No, the footage is out.
No, you know what I'm saying? I'm looking at it. Yes.

Speaker 2 So we have a practice team that's just all guys. They have to be students at the university.
They basically just volunteer their time and

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 we were down 15.

Speaker 2 So we like make a couple threes. We cut it to like 10, maybe, I don't even know.

Speaker 1 You know, when when you say we make a couple of threes, was it you or was everybody making threes?

Speaker 2 It was me, but the points went to the Iowa.

Speaker 2 So I think I had 22 points in two minutes. What's the moral of the story?

Speaker 1 I'm sure.

Speaker 1 Who cares about this interview? That footage is out and we could see it. And it's funny.

Speaker 1 I was arguing with my man the other day. He compared her to Paige.

Speaker 1 No, you can't do that. And no disrespect to Paige? Paige is super nice, but

Speaker 1 she's not Caitlin Clark. No.
Caitlin Clark is a generational talent. She's not her.

Speaker 1 They just keep, she just keeps running down. She just keeps running down and hitting that shit from like 40 feet, like four times in a row.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 No. Salute.
She's different, bro.

Speaker 1 That's when you gotta yell at the nigga. Yo, yo, yo, yo, switch, nigga.
That's gonna be white people's answer to our Zion mixtape.

Speaker 1 Our Zion fucking high school tape where he was postering all them white kids.

Speaker 1 She on here bugging, bugging. That's crazy right there.

Speaker 1 You good? You sick?

Speaker 1 Yo, why yummy coming to work sick, man?

Speaker 1 Well, you, I know why.

Speaker 1 That's fucked up.

Speaker 1 You know, they got, they got, yo, have you seen they got footage of Wilt as a teenager balling? That's all.

Speaker 1 He's cooking them.

Speaker 1 I don't want to hear nobody talk bad about Will no more. I'm just saying.
I'm on the Will. I'm in Will High.
Haters high. Does anybody talk bad about Will? I used to.

Speaker 1 They tried to say he couldn't play, and they say that 100 gate points was a myth. And they say the Joker's better than him.

Speaker 1 They say stupid shit like that. He's that? Like the Joker.

Speaker 1 I ain't never said nothing about Will. That's fucking Will.
Philly, man.

Speaker 1 Man, what's up? How you doing, girl? I'm great. We don't dig into your personal life anymore, but I'll be one to.
Bullshit. We don't, really, but I'll be one to.
Okay. We don't.
We let you live, man.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Keep us in your prayers. I just want to know if she's still...

Speaker 1 You don't have to do that. I'm going to end it.
I'll end it. I'll end it.
It's fine. It's fine.

Speaker 1 Look who she resorted to. La la la la la la.

Speaker 1 La la la la la.

Speaker 1 Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there.

Speaker 1 Until the next time, we bid you a due farewell. Adios, Riba Dirchie, Asta La Vista, Arvois, Solongbio.
A simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass.

Speaker 1 So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.

Speaker 1 And lastly, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things, grab you with Tylenol.

Speaker 1 You will need it.

Speaker 1 Hey.

Speaker 1 I want to shout out to all ish peoples in the Cayman Islands. I see y'all.
Shout out to y'all listening off.

Speaker 1 You such a shady bitch.

Speaker 1 Any of y'all got anything? Any of y'all got anything y'all want to close before we close? Before we close? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nah, nothing about that. Nah, we good.
We good, man. See y'all next time.
See y'all next time. See y'all next time, y'all.

Speaker 1 That's the worst out there.

Speaker 1 We running at that 225 back, though.

Speaker 1 Oh, y'all. Shout out to everybody up there that's getting 225 off that bench press.
It's not me, but shout out to y'all. Y'all got it? Y'all get that soon, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. So I'm on my way to it.
Yeah, it's just, I've been able to do it because I've been getting stronger carrying all y'all.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit,

Speaker 1 bye-bye.

Speaker 1 Is that the shade you talk about?

Speaker 1 Is that the shade you talk about? Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was so amazing.

Speaker 1 Palm tree, just kidding. Yep, you cool with him talking to us like that?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I actually, yeah, it's cool. Thank you, Mel.
That's all right. You're gonna stop.
Listen, you're gonna stop talking to me like that.

Speaker 1 This whole room could be cool. I know the two niggas that ain't cool.
You gonna watch your fucking toad around here, buddy.

Speaker 1 Y'all hold it down, man. Same time, same place next week, and hopefully, y'all enjoyed this.

Speaker 1 You've never heard of Joe Bunny. JBP, JBP.
Why would you be without the JBP?