Episode 807 | "Reverse Card Day"

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Speaker 1 All right, we're ready, we're ready, we're ready.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 What's popping? What's happening? Mark, you might want a microphone. Oh, man,

Speaker 1 look, I know the one who was talking the most shit, right?

Speaker 1 Mr. We Don't Need a Board.

Speaker 1 We don't need a board. I know you're in the kids table.
Y'all used to have me over there. I forgot.
I forgot. Shout out to Ish, by the way.

Speaker 1 Shout out to me. My brother, who's getting his

Speaker 1 injury handled. I found him a a surgeon.
I found him an excellent surgeon. So

Speaker 1 she's going to take care of him. Okay.

Speaker 2 Where's the surgeon?

Speaker 1 L.A.

Speaker 1 Oh. For real? Wow.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I found her good. A black woman surgeon.
Dope. Incredible.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I ruptured my Achilles as well.

Speaker 1 I didn't use her, but I thought this is a really good opportunity to give a black woman a chance. Why are you sitting on the who did it?

Speaker 1 What kind of shit is that?

Speaker 1 What is Achilles? Hold on. Hold on.

Speaker 1 Yo, is my brain just...

Speaker 1 Is my brain just sick in the head?

Speaker 1 That's all it's about. Like,

Speaker 1 I don't want to be sick in the head because I want to get black women props and all the praise.

Speaker 1 But that ain't sound like that was insane, Mark.

Speaker 1 I'm just teasing Ish because I know he's nervous, Sprite, when he hears this. No, she's an excellent, honestly one of the best in the country.
She's amazing.

Speaker 1 She gave me a lot of good advice on mine. I just happened to not go to her because I didn't discover her until afterward.
I would have gone to her, and she's amazing.

Speaker 1 I was happy to pass the connection over. I mean, she's so dope.
And that's why he went all the way across the country to see her. She's amazing.
I mean, in one version

Speaker 1 of the story, I'm sure all of that's true.

Speaker 2 What's the other version?

Speaker 1 In the other version,

Speaker 1 this black surgeon lady is dope enough to start this podcast with a five-minute ad.

Speaker 1 And though I didn't go see her for my surgery for whatever reason, because she's so great, but there was something that happened that I didn't go see her. Damn.

Speaker 1 Hey, I didn't talk during yours.

Speaker 1 I didn't talk during yours. Yo, this lady is the dopest surgeon in the world.

Speaker 1 But when I tried to go see this black lady, I would have

Speaker 1 put to the white man.

Speaker 1 But something happened to him. I couldn't get it done.
I'm not saying that's the wife. I mean,

Speaker 1 but what I can do is suggest my man

Speaker 1 her to my man

Speaker 1 who has the same what injury

Speaker 1 and he could fly

Speaker 1 there's a flight involved you could long fly long flight long flight you could fly to this black lady surgeon gotta stay over there to recover and

Speaker 1 I would assume There's some pretty good surgeons right here in New York.

Speaker 1 Top of the line. Hey, that's the thing about New York, y'all.
Hey, if you've never been,

Speaker 1 hey, they got the best of the best. The premium.
The best of everything. The best in the fucking whole universe.

Speaker 2 They come here.

Speaker 1 Happen to just be across the water. Right there.
You can see. You can see it.

Speaker 1 That's the crazy part of it. LA and New York got dope surgeons.
Yes. And because this was a recommendation and because she's so good, it made sense.
You know what I mean? No, it made a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 I don't know what it is. I agree with you.
It makes all the sense in the world.

Speaker 1 Niggas is crazy. Oh, my God.
That's funny.

Speaker 1 My girl would put that lady all history on the TV.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, black lady surgeon, huh? L.A., huh? What's her name?

Speaker 1 What's how we going? My girl going right to her Graham.

Speaker 1 That's girls' Wikipedia for bitches.

Speaker 1 They gram.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. How y'all doing? Good to see y'all.

Speaker 1 Good to be seeing you. How you feeling?

Speaker 1 I feel great. I feel great.
Got with my trainer yesterday. He gave me

Speaker 1 the stretch I needed. Pause.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did the right thing with my body. My meal prep going great.
Oh, meal prep. My no-smoking is going great.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Shit is going all right. Shit is going all right.
That's what I'm talking about. I was over here

Speaker 1 getting educated. Mel was teaching me some health shit

Speaker 1 over here. What'll she teach you?

Speaker 2 I was teaching him about a herniated disc.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 annoying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I have. Who has that?

Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where's yours? L6, L7.

Speaker 2 Mine's in my cervical spine.

Speaker 1 Oh, it goes up here. How y'all did it? How do you do that?

Speaker 1 That's gay of you. Oh.

Speaker 1 And the lumbar?

Speaker 1 Fucking go.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to hold you. So he was tearing that shit up.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker 1 When he looked at Mel I was like, L7.

Speaker 1 That's what I was like, how you do that? I'm trying to be nice.

Speaker 1 Good thing you skipped the game.

Speaker 1 A herniated disc, nigga. Ain't the male version of that just a hernia?

Speaker 1 Doesn't have a hernia. No.

Speaker 1 Totally different. Oh, my lord.
Holy shit. All right, look.
Deep relating. Go ahead.
But anyway, I was getting educated on that because I didn't know just as annoying. What it was or how you get that?

Speaker 1 Injections, all that shit. I ain't doing the surgery.
You got injection? I had trigger point injections. I'm going to lower it back.

Speaker 1 What was the trigger point?

Speaker 1 I'm asking. All right.
For real. Who are we doing? I'm just asking.
I don't know nothing about her. Who we doing? The trigger point is right there.
I just want to know who we doing.

Speaker 1 This nigga got a BBS.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Nigga got injections by his tram tramp stamp.

Speaker 1 Damn, how your lower back is.

Speaker 1 Y'all, my shit fucked up, nigga. But your lower back.
What you been doing with your lower back? Archie.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I can't tell y'all nothing.

Speaker 1 Men ain't supposed to get that there.

Speaker 1 You supposed to have it. Oh, my shoulder somewhere.
No, nigga, you lift wrong. You can fuck your lower back up.

Speaker 1 You didn't wear your fire.

Speaker 1 You didn't wear wear the fire.

Speaker 1 Oh man. Car accidents, all that shit happened, though.
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 But how do you even go find that out about yourself? Just go to the doctor. Yes.
That's how you fail. And then they'll start to sell back for your lower back.

Speaker 1 You start complaining about back pain enough. I never did.
Wait, stop. Don't go.
But let's stop right there. Got it.

Speaker 1 I've never complained about my lower back being in the pain. You know what I'm saying? You can take it.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Nigga got the insane

Speaker 1 male guy. That wasn't that your first male.

Speaker 1 Well played, sir.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. But yeah, then they go send you off of

Speaker 1 MRIs, all that shit. Then they put it up.
Oh, yeah. You got a hernia disc.
Let me know if you need. I got a bad guy.

Speaker 1 I got some title.

Speaker 1 So you're going to send him to a bad guy.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I mean, from everything about the story.

Speaker 1 Everything about the story sounding like that's what he needs.

Speaker 1 At some point today, I do want to see a picture of the black surgeon in that war.

Speaker 1 I will.

Speaker 1 She's a brilliant sister.

Speaker 1 That wasn't what was in question.

Speaker 1 That wasn't what was in question. I know.
I know. At some point, I just want to.

Speaker 1 No, no. Hold up.
I show.

Speaker 1 That's going to tell a whole story.

Speaker 1 That's a story told already. I know.
But they like to come in here and give props to black sisters.

Speaker 2 He's going to receive some good care.

Speaker 1 She is. That was hate.

Speaker 2 It's not hate. Actually, it's not.
It's just the opposite. A study came out that

Speaker 2 people fare better when they have a female doctor or a female surgeon, especially a black one.

Speaker 1 They take care of you. My girl Mel is sitting here with the ice packs glued to her

Speaker 2 shoulders. Because if I didn't, I wouldn't be able to look at your pretty face, motherfucker.
Because my neck was only about this much mobility about 20 minutes ago.

Speaker 1 How did you hurt your neck? Your back? That's hate. Cervical.

Speaker 2 It's it's a herniated disc.

Speaker 1 No, but it was like an acupuncture accident.

Speaker 2 Well, yes, I did have one where

Speaker 1 the origin of it.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's that you still getting pain from that?

Speaker 2 I mean, no, it's gradual. Gotcha.
Like, it probably started there, like

Speaker 1 minor. Okay.
I got acupuncture. That's what you should see.
Please. You have to snake out everybody.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is one way to look at it. Everything she's saying is true.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 What's also true is,

Speaker 1 my God, don't play about me.

Speaker 1 You would have been people. My God,

Speaker 1 every month I tell y'all, my God, don't play about me. It just so happens to be factual that Mel came in here

Speaker 1 and had a field day about niggas' health. Oh, y'all.

Speaker 1 She was on Cloud 10.

Speaker 1 And my God said,

Speaker 1 a word. A word?

Speaker 1 A word.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 That's how you do it? Watch this.

Speaker 1 Look at my girl.

Speaker 1 God damn.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the problem is that I probably keep exacerbating it because I won't leave the gym.

Speaker 1 That's that's not the reverse car. Yeah, that's a good day.
It's reverse card day. That's probably the day.
It's reverse car day. And now that I've slept on it, I'm ready for Pilates class.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? I'm ready. You've been doing some research or something?

Speaker 1 Listen, if the basketball clip sold like that,

Speaker 1 melon some Lululemon at the front.

Speaker 2 Wait, I thought I had to wear a snowsuit. No.
I thought we had to like, you know,

Speaker 1 take the focus off of. Oh, okay.
Hey. No.
We're here for it. All right.
Oh, yeah. I don't even think none of us are going to be in this clip.

Speaker 1 This shit going to fly.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. All right.
I'm having fun. I'm having a good time.
I like it. Having a good time.
It's a beautiful weather, beautiful weather out here. Yes, it's back.

Speaker 1 It is a beautiful day.

Speaker 1 No surprise. A few niggas have called out.

Speaker 1 They do it every time. Every time they're tempered around 65-ish,

Speaker 1 some emergencies.

Speaker 1 Car troubles. Oh,

Speaker 1 shit, kids.

Speaker 1 Surgery. Surgery.
All types of shit start going on.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Not soon enough. No, I know, I know.
My brothers is going through it. He popped his body the sandwich in front of me.

Speaker 1 He popped his

Speaker 1 double roasted beef sandwich. Yo, this is delicious.
Your own Ramadan, right? I'm like, dang.

Speaker 1 Oh, my Lord.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait for the ladies, all wait for the ladies.

Speaker 1 Whoa! I'm not

Speaker 1 more than you know

Speaker 1 on the letter.

Speaker 1 I love you more. Hey,

Speaker 1 I love you more,

Speaker 1 more than you know.

Speaker 1 30 enough, 40 enough, 50 enough.

Speaker 1 I love

Speaker 1 my mind.

Speaker 1 Inside and out, I can't hide it.

Speaker 1 One of my pounds of God.

Speaker 1 Shout out to wherever you might be listening from, of course.

Speaker 1 First and last time, listeners, all the A-listeners out there.

Speaker 1 All the patrolies, salute, salute, salute.

Speaker 1 at Whitley Town.

Speaker 1 It's just fast.

Speaker 1 It's been a long time.

Speaker 1 See, you haven't changed. Yeah, I mean

Speaker 1 March moving like he got somewhere to be sure is out there

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna hold you

Speaker 1 It's gonna be cookout season real soon

Speaker 1 Shout out to the niggas that bring crab legs to the cookout

Speaker 1 But after all this time,

Speaker 1 whole New York City, the Carolinas still feels bad.

Speaker 1 Shout out to our brothers that couldn't be here today. We love you.

Speaker 1 Stay in the car with me.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Microphone check. One, two.
What is this?

Speaker 1 Let's keep this applause going. Hey, for the best crew in the world, Mark is handing me a picture of this black surgeon in LA.
Okay. Wonderful, wonderful black surgeon.
Wonderful woman.

Speaker 1 Wonderful woman.

Speaker 1 Oh. And that's all I'll say.

Speaker 1 Let me get these drops out the way real quick.

Speaker 1 What episode is this? 807.

Speaker 1 Mel and Mark, Mark, Mark. All right, welcome to episode 807 of the Joe Button podcast.
Brought to you by, powered by, fueled by, prize picks, prize picks, gang.

Speaker 1 I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, and fully dressed host, Joe Button, here with some really amazing people to my right. You already know her name.

Speaker 1 The beautiful, the intelligent Melissa Ford is in the building.

Speaker 1 dr mark lamont hill is in the building fresh off of a 1v5 right i seen that 1v5 uh on pierced is that old no that's new i hate them motherfuckers man i seen you on pierced that's where you go to get your shit off they tried to jump my man exactly bro every time

Speaker 1 every fucking time man what was the uh subject There's always something to do with race.

Speaker 1 They always ask me a race question and then I answer the race question. They go, why are you bringing up race? And then they all jump over.
Every fucking time. You smoke that shit, though.

Speaker 1 Oh, I was was killing them. Now you go over there and eat.
I ain't gonna hold you. It was fun.
You do. Big freeze.

Speaker 1 The freeziest of them all, huh? Mr. Take It Further Himself.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 That's the dick name right there. Big eyes.

Speaker 1 Big Park's in the building. Yep.

Speaker 1 Fucking Poe is here. Corey's here.
My dad is here. Erickson is here.
Ian and Keith might still be here. Savon and Tianna are here by remote.

Speaker 1 Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. What's poppin'? What's poppin'? What's poppin' though? What's good?

Speaker 1 Shout out to our brothers, Flip and Ish here with us in Spirit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Flip had an emergency, fresh off of the room. Yeah.
Fresh off of the room

Speaker 1 over the weekend. I watched some of that.
And I just got paid emergency? Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The fun's hit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, shout out to my brothers. Shout out to my brothers.
How y'all feeling? Good. Feeling good, man.
Feeling excellent, man. This weather make me feel better.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Even inside, I don't even care. This is nice.

Speaker 1 And the time change. Like, normally I don't be liking that shit.
Yeah. I'm cool with it now.
It's a little rough. Yeah.
Yeah. This shit was all right.
This time. That time change is fucking me up.

Speaker 1 Really? It's fucking me up a little bit, but I'm happy that it's here.

Speaker 2 Yes, and yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We lost the hour, so I keep waking up earlier.

Speaker 1 So my 4:30 is 3:30. Oh, I'll wake up later.
So now I'm up at 3:30 in the morning, sitting there looking stupid, watching old movies. I did watch the social network again.
What a great movie.

Speaker 1 I saw you tweet that. I was like, amazing.
Are you watching the social network at like 6 a.m.? It's very different watching it now. Yeah, 3.30 in the morning.

Speaker 1 I said, you know what I've been meaning to see again?

Speaker 1 The social network. That's an interesting choice.

Speaker 1 It's one of those movies that I interpret differently as an adult, like an adult adult, like in my 40s.

Speaker 1 Well, we've kind of seen the shit play out 11.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Justin Timberlake. What a sack of shit in the social network.
But anyway, we won't talk about that.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I'm just waking up early and earlier. Well,

Speaker 1 if anybody fasting, that extra hour is not the best. It's not your friend.
I saw you say that. Yeah, because it's been 5.58 to break fast.
Now it's 6.58.

Speaker 1 That hour is crucial. Yeah, but I hold on though.
No, because they're not your sleep though. You get on the other end.

Speaker 1 You get the back on the other end if you wake up to eat because you get to sleep an extra hour before that.

Speaker 1 But I usually go to bed at like, like you, I'm up all night, and then I miss breakfast, and then I'm going until 6 o'clock, and now I'm going to 7 o'clock.

Speaker 1 So for me, I don't get the advantage of the other side of it. I ain't going to say I'm up all night now.
I'm in bed. That's true.
I hit that bed around seven o'clock.

Speaker 1 That's the fire shit, boy. Just being in bed.
When I used to live with Corey and he was old and I was young and hot,

Speaker 1 and Corey just used to stay in the room and never leave for like months at a time. I used to be hitting the streets.
I used to look up to him and be like, How the fuck does he do that shit?

Speaker 1 Now you get it.

Speaker 1 Shit.

Speaker 1 She's like, all right, right. Nigga, what?

Speaker 1 That's the goal. I really only need a room.
They lucky to say the 90s when renting a room was still fashionably cool.

Speaker 1 I would get a room.

Speaker 1 And if you caught the room that didn't have the shared bathroom, what? Woo! Shout out to 95.

Speaker 1 Them room saved my life when I was running away from home. Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 50 a week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You see what I mean?

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 what are we talking about? Let's fight about shit.

Speaker 1 Yo, I'm telling y'all now, I'm not taking none of this news serious. I don't feel like it's that much serious.

Speaker 1 No, some of this shit is a little serious.

Speaker 2 Every single day, there's some kind of catastrophic event happening, or Trump signs another fucking, you know, out of a piece of paper, toilet paper.

Speaker 1 I'm blocking some of that shit up. Yeah.
Yeah. I start reading on it.

Speaker 1 What made me nervous was hearing that JD was coming for y'all.

Speaker 1 I already went to fuck y'all up. Oh, yeah, let's get right to it.
Jermaine Dupree is on Ice and Melissa Ford's ass.

Speaker 1 That's who Assyri on? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He ran on your H7. Was it 8? Yeah, L7.

Speaker 1 L3. L3.
What hurts?

Speaker 1 Jermaine Dupree has replied to all of the responses to his Independent tweet, and he made a video.

Speaker 1 In that video, he highlights the Joe Button podcast and how we framed

Speaker 1 his question to make it appear like he was

Speaker 1 comparing Indy versus major, and that wasn't his goal at all. But we didn't frame that.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 he didn't feel like he did that all of us. I think we just read the tweet.
Yeah, that's how you tweeted that. Why would y'all,

Speaker 1 what's the benefit of being independent, basically, is what he asked. I'm not framing anything.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 well, let me let y'all, because y'all the ones with the smoke. Nah, I ain't got no smoke.
He

Speaker 1 He's not on me.

Speaker 1 That's not the, he's not on my ass. But go ahead, finish.
You can finish.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, I haven't actually heard what he's had to say.

Speaker 1 So if we have a little bit to play, then I'm more than six, excuse me, six, seven-minute clip-up. Oh, Christ.

Speaker 1 And majority of it was just him explaining, basically saying, I understand what independent is because I've done X, Y, Z. So he broke down how he found Dondrea,

Speaker 1 how he, you know, everything,

Speaker 1 album was all independent, all funded by him, no, no outside backing, nothing like that.

Speaker 1 Um, he addressed people saying how he, quote-unquote, fumbled having lotto because she started on the rap game show. And he was saying, the winner of that show, you got a chain,

Speaker 1 you got for him to produce a song. We don't care about what that shit he said.
His point was, that's a six prize, by the way.

Speaker 2 Who is the winner, anyways? Do we know who they are?

Speaker 1 Right. Do we talk about them?

Speaker 1 Oh, this is years ago. No, I'm saying,

Speaker 2 and where is the winner of that show?

Speaker 1 Who's the worst gift? Anyways, we don't care.

Speaker 1 That's not what's the point. The point.
His point was: what is special

Speaker 1 about being independent? I don't think that some of the things that people were naming, freedom and having your rights, and so forth, and so on.

Speaker 1 He was saying, I have got that, and I know people that have those same things

Speaker 1 on majors.

Speaker 1 So, what is specific, specifically special about being an independent? Everybody don't get that on the major.

Speaker 2 I was just gonna say, I was about to say, like, he again, he still sounds like he's speaking from a privileged standpoint.

Speaker 1 So, you want to smoke?

Speaker 2 It's not smoke, though. It's like, it's literally just like addressing, you know, commentary that's going back and forth.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't have anything personal against the guy, but the fact of the matter is, is that it still sounds like he's speaking from a privileged position.

Speaker 2 Because, like Parks just said, it's not just because you're on a major doesn't guarantee that you're going to have all of that. And it just seems like.

Speaker 1 You're trying to get part of them all.

Speaker 1 Let her go. Let it go.
Come on. Come on.
Let it go. Somebody got to break up your stretch.
I see your girl. No, I'm coming for it.
Soon you stop.

Speaker 1 No, come for me. No, no, no, no, I'm talking shit.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. Okay.
No, it's just,

Speaker 2 it just seems like... Like I said, he's speaking from a privileged position.
And like I said as well, that it might be an antiquated thought process.

Speaker 1 I just don't like the fact that he's even mentioning,

Speaker 1 I know people are majors that got their

Speaker 1 masters and all that. They had to negotiate that probably down the line.

Speaker 1 You're not getting signed today.

Speaker 1 Well, unless you're scorching hot.

Speaker 1 You might could leverage some of that today. But that's, again, a small portion.
Those who are scorching hot kind of realize, hey, I got here.

Speaker 2 It sounds like he's referring to outliers. You know what I'm saying? So it's the exception to the rule.

Speaker 2 And so it's it's kind of like, you know, when they use the success of a black person to say, see, racism doesn't exist. You know, there's opportunity is bountiful.
No, the fuck, it's not.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? Like, that's, it seems like he's making, you know, kind of trying to create that kind of argument. And it still falls a little flat to me.

Speaker 1 Do you think that he's got it wrong or do you think he's carrying the water for the majors?

Speaker 2 That's what the latter, it sounds like.

Speaker 1 I mean, according to him, all he was doing was asking a question, and we should never make it so in hip-hop that somebody is unable to ask a question. But here's the here's the problem with that.

Speaker 1 That's what he said. I hear that.
And if he weren't Jermaine Dupree,

Speaker 1 it would be like me saying on Twitter, what's the point of Black History Month?

Speaker 1 I could just be asking a question, but you would expect that I would know the answer to that based on who I am and where I am in the world. After 40 years in the...

Speaker 1 Is Black History Month February or April? Both.

Speaker 1 It's all year round. It's all year round.
So we get two.

Speaker 1 We just get February. We just get February.
We used to get a week. Now we get a month.

Speaker 2 We don't really get shit anymore, according to Trump.

Speaker 1 But if it's April. All right.

Speaker 1 So it's like when Jermaine Dupree says, what's the difference? It's hard to take it as an earnest question when he's an industry veteran, a legend, somebody who knows the business inside and out.

Speaker 1 It's hard for me to believe that he needs to ask that question to Twitter.

Speaker 2 And that's why I keep saying it's an antiquated thought process because. It's like a mick tweet.

Speaker 1 No comment. But I'll say this.

Speaker 1 If you heard me say, what's the point of Black History Month, you would interpret it as me me saying something's wrong with it because it's me asking as opposed to a 12-year-old asking.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're more informed. Right.
So you would assume if I'm asking, I'm asking it with a point of view already.

Speaker 1 But Jermaine Dupree is saying, what's the difference between a major and an independent when you spent your whole life in the music business and you were this big, literally?

Speaker 1 I got to assume you have an opinion on it that you're trying to communicate through that question. And the way he worded it, it almost sounded like he was...
I'm not putting words in your mouth.

Speaker 1 Pause, I don't want you to have no smoke over here. It almost seemed like you were looking down at the people that wanted to be independents.

Speaker 2 That was was a logical way to perceive what he said.

Speaker 1 It's like, yo, y'all want a lot of y'all want the same thing that you that you would you would want being on a major

Speaker 1 okay guess who's not getting a Jermaine Dupree beat

Speaker 2 you and male but you put it but you put a tweet like that out into the ether not everybody's going to agree with you it's going to create discourse and it's going to create conversation I thought the tweet was engagement for me to begin with.

Speaker 1 I was just going to say, and you said that. I was going to ready to say, and people know that.
What you just said, you know, if I put a tweet out, what it's going to do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I know I could create a conversation, even if it's just boredom or whatever. I know I could create a conversation off this.
Right.

Speaker 1 All of that's true, but Tamel's earlier point, it really could just be him speaking from his privilege, like we've already stated.

Speaker 1 And that's not to say that he's never worked independent projects, never worked with independent artists. I'm clear who Jermaine Dupree is.
For sure. But

Speaker 1 his story is not everyone's story. It's not most of our story.
It certainly was not my story

Speaker 1 and my experience in dealing with major labels.

Speaker 1 Like, and I think there's more of me than there are of him. For sure.
Agreed.

Speaker 1 So when you start putting options in front of people's face and they start to go get educated about what they are willing to deal with, when independents are trying to figure out how they can maximize their audience.

Speaker 1 Yeah, some of the things you hear independently sound a lot more favorable to the artist than the typical, because I'm a dinosaur now too, typical major label experience.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not going to lie to it. My experience being basically B2B, business to business in music,

Speaker 1 I'm still waiting. I'm mad.
Checks for major labels from months, some cases years. Independents, it might be less money, but I get paid before the show.

Speaker 1 And that's why I also said, I think part of his tweet,

Speaker 1 I could see if he spoke, let's say he spoke to five artists that he was just trying to work with or something, right? Yo, what you want, you know, what type of situation you looking for?

Speaker 1 And they all speaking, nah, I want to be independent. I don't want X, Y, and Z.
I could see him now taking that question to say, yo, why all y'all want to be independent? Like,

Speaker 1 when we first addressed it, I said, it sounds like it might have a little bit of frustration in it. I can't get no artists that I'm trying to sign because all y'all want to be independent now.

Speaker 1 A lot of people woke up.

Speaker 1 They're not falling for that music industry gaffle no more. Some still are, but a lot of people got this information out here realizing, hey, I'm not going to sign a bad deal.
I'll wait.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what was interesting to me. He said, I know people have gotten this deal.
He didn't say, I signed people to that kind of deal. Like on social, was he giving people the independent label?

Speaker 1 kind of deals at social deaf was he doing that

Speaker 1 independent label what i'm saying is he's saying there are majors that get

Speaker 1 all the good stuff that independents get. You can get it on a major.
And I'm saying, well, he had a label, right? He didn't say, I'm giving those deals out because then that would make sense to me.

Speaker 1 Like, why y'all going over there? I can get you out of here. He said, I know people who got that.
So it doesn't sound like he's giving them out either.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're going. All right.

Speaker 1 No beat for you neither.

Speaker 1 Sorry. There goes my rap career.
Tarnish the chairs. That functify remix they have to do.
Use it as a bed underneath your

Speaker 1 night's full shit.

Speaker 1 If you guys want to hear what Jermaine Dupree had to say about it, you can go on YouTube. There are entire clips of him explaining his thought process.
I don't want to just one-side this thing.

Speaker 1 Please, by all means, go check out what he had to say about it. But,

Speaker 1 yeah, I'm out of there. I might need to be one day.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 That's my man, man. I love

Speaker 1 Jermaine Dupree.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, like, nobody's disputing his legendary status in the game. It's just, you you know, it's a

Speaker 1 little fuck y'all already. Not even a little bit.
Not even a little bit.

Speaker 1 Not at all. Not even a little bit.

Speaker 1 It's a little hell when you disagree with something he said.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 You can disagree with me all goddamn day. Yeah, no, no, no.
I'm talking true.

Speaker 1 Joe, get some shit started. No, no, no, no, I'm chilling.
I'm chilling, chilling, chilling. I'm not.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. Shout out to Jermaine Dupree.

Speaker 1 Come on, what else can we fight about?

Speaker 1 Let's not recap somebody doing a recap of our recap of what they said. Come on, what can we fight about? Let's fight about Doshi.
I was just gonna raise my hand.

Speaker 1 For this show.

Speaker 1 Friend of the show. Friend of the show.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't know now.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. I staying with Doshi.

Speaker 2 First, I still, I have to acknowledge she was in Paris Fashion Week.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 2 Whoever her team is, she won.

Speaker 1 She won.

Speaker 2 She won. She won.
She won. Hands down.
She was that girl at Paris Fashion Week. Just had to say that too.

Speaker 1 Did you see Ice Spice leaving the off-white event?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Why did she leave?

Speaker 1 No, it was over. It was over.
She was leaving the event

Speaker 1 draped in some off-white shit. Alva, you didn't see it.
So how could you say who won?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 that would kind of speak to it. Yes.

Speaker 2 Because I didn't see it.

Speaker 2 Because everybody was posting Dochi because she won Paris Fashion Week. Chili Crip.
Amazing.

Speaker 1 Ice Spice did.

Speaker 1 That was the joke.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 You're never going to get ice spice feature. That's true.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 2 I know you're looking forward to that.

Speaker 1 Yo, Joe Budden featuring Ice Spice.

Speaker 1 That was another reverse card. I would have just pointed that up.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 back to Doshi. So she was doing

Speaker 2 hot ones, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And she was asking. She did hot ones without Sean.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They've been doing that lately though.

Speaker 1 I'm not mad at it.

Speaker 1 That was Miss Milan. Shout out to Miss Milan.
They did it with

Speaker 1 Scissor and them for and Kiki for that movie. Well, the same format.
The same format. Okay.

Speaker 1 Got it. Put you with somebody that you're.
Yeah, yeah. Got it.
Got it. All right, so she did Hot Ones Without Sean.
Her and Miss Milan. Shout out to Miss Milan,

Speaker 1 friend of the show.

Speaker 1 And she was asked a question about

Speaker 1 what would her red flag be?

Speaker 1 And she wrote it, answered down, and she said, if the guy says he's a straight man,

Speaker 1 that's a red flag. And everybody was just up in arms,

Speaker 1 agenda, and

Speaker 1 it's exhausting. It was.

Speaker 1 So, what do y'all got to say about it? I stand with Dolce on that. You know what I mean? Not in the sense that I think Dochi.
You don't like straight men either?

Speaker 1 Not my thing. Yeah, not my thing.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 she's entitled to have a flag for herself sure and i felt like if she said like fuck all straight men that's different right i felt like she was saying this is a red flag for me and based on her experiences also she's dated guys who are bi yeah that's she's got a type and from what i understand she herself is pretty sexually fluid yeah so if that's if that's your bag and those type of guys you want as well

Speaker 1 Then yeah, that might be a flag for her.

Speaker 2 What was some of the criticism?

Speaker 1 All right, I just want to say, if you guys continue down this route, I'm going to be against Doshi. Go ahead.
I'm on Doshi side. If y'all continue to be so adamant in your.

Speaker 1 You got a 1v4 coming up, I think. I'm on Doshi's side, too.
I'm down on her side. We are all with Doshi.
I got to do it now, man. I got to do it.
I got to do it.

Speaker 1 The criticisms, Mel, and I had some like private conversations about it. It was the choosing of the word red flag.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And a lot of people feel like red flag doesn't. Women don't know what red flag means.
Yes. That's what it's balled down.
That's the criticism.

Speaker 2 That's a broad statement. But

Speaker 1 that's what a lot of the criticism came from because people were saying red flag means danger. So you're saying straight men are a danger.

Speaker 1 This is like a red flag means

Speaker 1 it does either. Yeah.
I wouldn't necessarily. A red flag is like just a sign that something is concerning.
It doesn't be danger.

Speaker 1 Oh, knock it. Hold on.
No, no.

Speaker 1 Like if you go to a job interview, you show up an hour late. That's a red flag.

Speaker 1 The definition, because

Speaker 1 I had this conversation and I was with you.

Speaker 1 A red flag is used as a warning of danger.

Speaker 1 But not physical danger is what I'm saying. For example.
Danger. It didn't say physical.
Right, but of some danger. So back to my point.

Speaker 1 This is a remix, not to bring it up again, of that stupid fucking bear question. It kind of is.
It is. It kind of is.
This is a remix of that.

Speaker 1 One, if Dolce is fluid, which she is, to my knowledge, she don't date straight men.

Speaker 1 so if you're asking somebody what is a red flag in the people that you date

Speaker 1 and you respond with people that you don't date then what is the point of that other than to be divisive and to offend because you're trying or order or to warrant some type of attention and this is where this is where i took her side i just think it was misinterpreted i think she didn't i think she treated red flag as what is something you see that makes you say, oh, no, I'm good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 That's how people use red flags.

Speaker 1 That's what a red flag is. So to her, so

Speaker 1 let's say Doshi liked to do some things with her dude that a straight man might not be okay with.

Speaker 1 Like. Use your imagination.

Speaker 1 But we don't even have to do that.

Speaker 1 She, allegedly, because I can't speak to nobody sex business, don't date straight men.

Speaker 1 Cool. What I'm saying is...
She might have even said that up here. I feel like she did.
She did. She did.
Something like that. So then what the fuck is she talking about straight men for?

Speaker 1 Because if she is. Which is fucked up.
If she's on a date with a guy. Hold on, let me land first.

Speaker 1 Which is fucked up because, you know, Mark and people speak a lot about representation and how it's important to be represented in certain spaces.

Speaker 1 So when we have Dolce up here, and when we see Dolce getting these awards, and when we see her winning, like straight black men feel represented also.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 they can identify with that.

Speaker 1 That's fine. We still have to do that.

Speaker 1 So there's really no point in, yo, whoever is carrying the baton for you, let them carry the baton. So you say she's, you said she's.

Speaker 1 Whether they're fucking Asian, whether they're gay, whether they're transgender, there's no reason to pinpoint anybody who not only you're representing, but who's carrying the baton for you

Speaker 1 and say,

Speaker 1 red flag, danger. So

Speaker 2 you feel like that was her alienating a certain portion of her fan base just by saying something like that.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think it's blown out of proportion, though. I absolutely don't know.
Honestly, I think, though, she was just literally saying that. I think she was being aware of her.

Speaker 1 Like if she's on her first date with a guy and the guy says, or she just meets a guy, get a guy number or something, and y'all get to talking and

Speaker 1 he lets her know he's a straight man, I'm good. I also think the show is especially.

Speaker 1 And I don't think there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's a little type of nigga she liked.
That's why I was saying,

Speaker 2 I think there's a lot of performance.

Speaker 1 I think that's a lot of y'all pulling out every excuse.

Speaker 1 She doesn't know what red flag means. She's joking.
And what's the other one y'all said?

Speaker 1 See, I'm saying I do think she knows what red flag means. I think she's using the way most people use it.

Speaker 1 I think that she has a type. And I think it's okay to say that when I meet somebody who's not that thing,

Speaker 1 that's a flag for me. For example,

Speaker 1 but wait, that's exactly where we're having

Speaker 1 the disagreement here. Right.

Speaker 1 If somebody asks me, hey, what's a red flag for you and you're dating? And I say, gay women.

Speaker 1 I get you.

Speaker 1 Then I can't act fucking... I can't act surprised when the gay women says,

Speaker 1 I see a red flag for you. It wouldn't be a red flag if...

Speaker 1 She doesn't like that.

Speaker 1 That's not the point.

Speaker 1 I get what he's saying. He's saying, obviously,

Speaker 1 if this whole sort is something you don't deal with, then saying that they're a red flag just alienates them because that's not your type.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's not your thing. I hear that.
What I'm saying is, I don't operate from the premise that she doesn't date any straight men. I think, based on all the interviews I've seen, she dates men.

Speaker 1 And she does not have a problem dating bisexual men. And I think that there's a certain thing she wants in men.

Speaker 1 emotionally, physically, sexually, whatever, that she tends to find in men who are not straight. And so the red flag for her comes when she meets a dude who's straight.

Speaker 1 I would like somebody who's potentially

Speaker 1 the female rapper that's going to fucking carry the next however many years with all the success, and she's extremely talented, to not be on some, hey, let's divide the people and straight man are the red flag and yada yada.

Speaker 1 For her.

Speaker 2 I do not think that that.

Speaker 2 I do not think that. I'm not saying that.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 1 that is how it came off. Okay, so Joe, Joe, Joe, if you like threesomes all the time, all you wanted was threesomes, right? Whoever you with, they got to be down with threesomes, right?

Speaker 1 And somebody said, what's a red flag for you? And you said, and they said, a straight girl.

Speaker 1 Would that be alienating straight women? You want a girl who's bisexual? You would the shits.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's no different. It's the same thing.
It's the same thing.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't see it that way at all.

Speaker 1 All we did was switch to gender. I don't see it that way at all.

Speaker 2 But then that's all you got to do sometimes for it to not

Speaker 2 exactly. For it to just suddenly

Speaker 1 reverse.

Speaker 1 I don't see it that way at all. And again, I'm not making a big deal out of this, but it became a big deal because,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's a good idea. Because the people, it became a big deal because the people that did not fit her type, preference, whatever you want to call it, were the ones offended.
Age-old Twitter.

Speaker 1 And that's always what happens. You can sit there and say, I don't, a woman could say, I don't like short men.
You know who's going to get mad? Short men, even if they don't like her. Right.

Speaker 1 Even if they don't give a fuck. Even if they were never checking for her, they're mad because

Speaker 1 they're alienated out of something they never wanted.

Speaker 1 She seems to get a particular rise out of people on Twitter, too, for some reason. Because,

Speaker 1 well, a lot of it ties back to who she's with, the label, the TDE part.

Speaker 1 So there's that going on.

Speaker 1 And then there's, you know, people can't understand and i'm tired of the whole industry plant thing yo doji's been working for years yeah facts like the industry plant is somebody that popped up yesterday that nobody knew who they were and they're getting every look in the world and like she's been working don't make me be on the other side of this world don't be on the other side of it and then and then at the same time i'm quick to offer somebody grace when they are have newly been thrust into like the upper echelon of fame you know what i'm saying like you're not always going to have, you know, to say the right thing.

Speaker 2 You're not a fucking robot. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 So you're going to say something and you're being cheeky and facetious and then all of a sudden the internet's coming after you and you're like, wait, hold on one second here.

Speaker 2 I just like a lot of butt play with, you know, in my sex life and straight guys tend not to fucking like that. That's why it's a red flag for me because I really like butt play.

Speaker 1 I also mentioned as bisexuals, being with other bisexuals is probably a little easier. Because you can understand each other's

Speaker 2 shit. That's exactly.
I think that that was what she was leading to. And this was just like a really shortcut in terms of explaining that that is her preference.

Speaker 1 Because like you said, it's a playful show, and she didn't want to get into all the specifics about butt play. Well, that's not true, because Miss Milan said, oh, I was going to say men for you.

Speaker 1 So it ain't just they both sitting there jokey-jokey. It's a playful show.

Speaker 1 It's no, me and my fucking bestie are like-minded when it comes to this area, or at least, and because Miss Milan was supposed to guess for her. So, yeah, my best friend knows where I stand on this.

Speaker 1 And I would have loved to have heard the actual answer to the question. Hey, what is a red flag in the people that you date?

Speaker 1 That was the first thing I asked her when she came here. Hey, that verse on the album where you were dating the bisexual dude and then you went through his phone and saw that he was with it.

Speaker 1 That's intriguing. It is.
You don't need to insert straight.

Speaker 1 straight guys in this. Just be intriguing.

Speaker 1 But there is a thing, there is a thing, I'm not jumping on it because it's going to make me seem like one of them niggas that I'm not. But there is a thing of

Speaker 1 straight men feeling like there's the erasure of them from television and from yada yada yada. That is a thing.
It's not a Joe Button thing. Yeah, it's a thing.

Speaker 1 And I'm not saying that I'm enforcing that.

Speaker 1 Because it's crazy. But

Speaker 1 I mean, part of communication is knowing how you come off.

Speaker 1 That's true. Part of communication is knowing how you come off.
I'm just saying. That's it.
Straight males. I end with that.
Fair enough. I'll leave it there.
Yeah, I end with that.

Speaker 1 The old preference argument. That's it.
Really?

Speaker 1 That really gets people hot. That's it.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 See, I'm not looking at it like a preference argument. Maybe that's my problem.

Speaker 1 That's all I saw with this. You can't argue with nobody about their preferences.
Yes, I think that's all she was saying. Yes, you can.
They do it every single day.

Speaker 1 That's called podcasting, but it's not a problem.

Speaker 1 But how you handle things that fall outside of your preferences says something. True.
You can have a preference as long. This is what I learned.
Y'all all know me.

Speaker 1 Y'all get the, you know, but they know me. Y'all know I have a preference.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 what I've learned, and it took me years to grasp it fully, but pause, to,

Speaker 1 you can have your preference. You don't have to put down what's not your preference in order to have your preference.

Speaker 1 That's it. That's it.
That's it. And I don't think that's it.
And I don't think she was doing it. Exactly.
I don't think that's what she was doing.

Speaker 1 And I guess that's the part that's open for interpretation. Yes.
There we go. Yes.
All right. That wasn't the worst Dolchi argument.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 I feel like I failed then. And shout out to Dolce.
She was just, what, Billboards,

Speaker 1 woman of the year?

Speaker 1 That's the part that makes people feel a little plannedish.

Speaker 1 Why? Just a whopper.

Speaker 2 Why she had a fucking incredible year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was a fucking incredible year.
I don't think people understand the difference between like worked hard and now are getting breaking the benefits of the hard work.

Speaker 2 But we're literally seeing videos of her four years ago manifesting the success that she has right now, sitting in her room, like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Just hoping against hope that this pans out for her.

Speaker 1 You think she's a planet Joe?

Speaker 1 I think, yeah. I think it's a trap.
It's not a trap. Absolutely a trap.
But

Speaker 1 it's a trap. It's a trap.
And I can't fall in a trap because like I said, I see her and it still represents me. I'm a black man, so

Speaker 1 why would you want to eat, even if you felt like that, why would you want to say that? I'm not, that's not how I move,

Speaker 1 and I don't think she's a plant.

Speaker 1 But to the people that think she's a plant, it's very easy to see why they think she's a plant.

Speaker 1 They don't feel as though I'm not speaking, man, I'm speaking for them. They don't feel as though

Speaker 1 what's happening with her

Speaker 1 has much to do with the impact from her album. That's it.
I think that's it.

Speaker 1 They don't feel like the music is the thing that's making all of these

Speaker 1 looks and awards and the accolades. I ain't gonna lie, my mom sent me a clip last night of

Speaker 1 Oh no, she sent me a clip of Lauren Hill at Roberta Flack's funeral.

Speaker 1 But she killed for that. It was a picture of Dolce doing doo-wop doo-wop with Lauren Hill.

Speaker 1 And I don't think she's a plant and said to myself, oh, that's exactly what I wanted to see. Dolce doing doo-wop with Lauren Hill.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 come on, y'all. Like, come on.
I think that's just...

Speaker 1 I think that's Lauren blessing her. Good.

Speaker 1 Good. I'm only talking about how things appear, Mark.
Look, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 Has she done that to anybody else?

Speaker 1 Schmidt?

Speaker 1 Nikki kind of bowed before her and gave her her her love and praise and she showed love back. This is the first time I've seen her sort of outreach to a person.
Yeah, that's a little rapid.

Speaker 1 She's done that. Yeah, maybe it's the first time she thinks somebody should take the torch.

Speaker 1 Or maybe Lauren's like, all right, it's probably time for me to pass the torch since this second album ain't come.

Speaker 1 Got it. You know, I can respect that.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I feel like in every industry I've ever been in or seen, when someone is successful, one, it's always from a grind that people didn't see.

Speaker 1 And then the people who didn't get it then say that person's a plant. I remember when Tanahasi Coates became a big star or Melissa Harris Perry on TV, Cornell West was like, they're a liberal plant.

Speaker 1 Right? I'm not even joke, right? And when I was an activist in movements, whenever somebody got too close to the leader, they're an agent, right?

Speaker 1 It's like every movement, every organization, when people don't succeed, so everybody looking around says they must have got there because they cheated.

Speaker 1 They're a secret mason, they're part of a secret. We do that with everything.
We think anybody who's successful, not us. Illuminati.
Illuminati. That's what I was trying to say.
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 Everybody got there the wrong way. Which is hate, really.
Which is hate. Everybody got there the wrong way except you.
Right. Because you ain't get there yet.
Exactly. That's why.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, and there's people that believe in the music industry button. Right.
Well, I think we all, I believe in the music industry. That's true too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But I also think that you have to work.

Speaker 1 The plants don't have to work to get them to push the button. That's a fact.
They're chosen and the button is pushed. I think those who worked.

Speaker 1 and worked and worked and then the buttons can make things look plantish.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's if you don't pay attention, if you didn't see anything beforehand. So I'm not mad at nobody that says Dolchi's a plant because they might not have seen the previous work.

Speaker 1 But that's where people can come in and inform you. No, this girl's been working.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and you see the

Speaker 1 first mixtape. This ain't her first, none of this.
And you see the grinding.

Speaker 2 And you see the culmination of all of that hard work,

Speaker 2 specifically over the course of this last year. Like her tiny desk, that was one of the best of 2024.
Like that shit was fire.

Speaker 2 Her performance of the Grammys, her winning best rap album, like all of this is

Speaker 2 just, it's part and parcel with all of the work that she has put in. You don't just get to that level of talent just by fucking accident.

Speaker 1 It's hard.

Speaker 1 Don't really be a

Speaker 1 god. Y'all, oh man, whiz flip.

Speaker 1 Because I don't want to take, I'm not taking the other side in all of this. However,

Speaker 1 we still talk in the music industry.

Speaker 1 In the music industry,

Speaker 1 the hard work is never

Speaker 1 hard work is not what culminates the stardom. No, right.

Speaker 1 That's like your number one. It's great that you do it.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. That's like the bars in hell.
All right.

Speaker 1 Hard work. But there's millions and millions.
It's back to me telling Jermaine Dupree there's me than there is a family. There's millions of people that worked hard

Speaker 1 and are talented that fall into the black hole. That's a fact.
Correct. So

Speaker 1 it's a rare meeting where works hard and very talented comes together.

Speaker 1 You're saying what I'm saying, I think. Okay, carry on.
Yeah, I'm saying niggas that work hard and have all the talent in the world fall by the wayside, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 He said no. Everybody that work hard don't have all the talent half half hour.
He said that black hole is filled with people who didn't do both.

Speaker 1 You could just be a hard worker and be not talented. And then there's the third leg of sticking with it.
And the intersection of those three things is rare.

Speaker 1 but i feel like the hip-hop underground is filled with people who work their ass off grind got a lot of talent and never make it big and they do this shit for 30 years

Speaker 1 uh to find make it big they never get out of working joe's pub no disrespect to joe's pub but i'm saying if your goal is to be you know major label filling stages you never get to make you know i mean that's their grind like i think there's a lot of people like joe said who are super talented and work really hard and stick to it i mean how many musicians we know always always play in local local spots never blow up bands never make i mean i think this goes back to the independent, this goes back to the JD conversation to some degree because some people choose to do that, don't want that.

Speaker 1 And not just that, some people just never were, they didn't get the right visibility, they weren't seen by the right person. That's what I'm saying.
That's a worry time. That's a man, though.

Speaker 1 You get what I'm saying? You can be working hard, working hard, working hard, and then the CEO of such and such just happened to be having lunch at the spot where you're playing a guitar.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, this dude is ill. He's a beast.
And that meeting changes your life. Well, can you explain something to me? Who is an example of a plant? Because maybe then maybe I don't have.

Speaker 1 What's a clear,

Speaker 1 indisputable example of a plant?

Speaker 1 See,

Speaker 1 then I could compare names? Yeah, like who would be who would we say is a plant? I say Lil Nasak's is a plant.

Speaker 1 Okay, what I say,

Speaker 1 what's Million Dollar Baby Dude? Tell me Richard. A plant.
What makes? When I say those people that are just,

Speaker 1 you literally popped up overnight with

Speaker 1 a hit.

Speaker 1 And that's because, number one,

Speaker 1 you don't get to top of the charts without backing from somewhere. Okay.
You're not going to just, that's back to the hard work and talent thing. That's not getting you number one.

Speaker 1 So it was Justin Bieber a plant?

Speaker 1 No, he was. I mean, because I'm like, if somebody's an internet sensation and then a label says, you know what, this dude just got 50 million.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? They got all the stuff.

Speaker 1 The internet sensation doesn't speak to talent. But that's what I'm saying.
So the little Nas X piece of it is, is he a plant or is he somebody who they said, look, he can create an audience.

Speaker 1 Let's escalate him to the top. That's what a plant would be, though.
Then,

Speaker 1 where's the hard work? Where's the where's the grind? Gotcha. So, if you make it to the top too fast, you're a plant.

Speaker 1 If I don't see the hard work, if I don't see the grind that you've been actively,

Speaker 1 if you drop a record today and it goes viral or whatever, I'm not mad at that. Like, Langelo Ball is not a plant to you.
No, he's not a plant. But he got a, he got a hundred.

Speaker 1 He got a viral hit. And then he got a big deal.
That's what I'm saying. But where's the grind?

Speaker 1 Where's do you see him at on the cover of

Speaker 1 do you see him on the award shows? Do you see him at what top of the charts? You don't see those things. Got you.
I mean, it's

Speaker 1 where I see

Speaker 1 that. I've seen majors try to make some shit look like it's happening organically and it's not.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 okay. Viral.

Speaker 1 The ball brother brother that we're talking about here had had a song independently that made noise for two weeks and then the labels got involved and you could see their push.

Speaker 1 That was also a little different because he had an audience.

Speaker 1 He had a name, so it's a little easier to name it an audience. He had a name, it was going to check anyway.
I'm not giving you my plant list because all hell would break loose.

Speaker 1 I was trying, I tried. That was nice, what he did.
Lil Nas X and Yeah, the safe ones, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I ain't no.
I ain't jump out the window.

Speaker 1 It's some other ones. Yeah, I was being messy.
Oh, no, it's some other ones. Absolutely, is.

Speaker 1 What do they rhyme with? Nope.

Speaker 1 I've learned it.

Speaker 1 You'd have got me three years ago.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no. Fair enough.
I tried. The problem, and i'm cool with some of the that's be signing plants

Speaker 1 so even if you don't with the plant it's like

Speaker 1 my man

Speaker 1 my man boss

Speaker 1 go ahead go ahead and get your off god damn it is christina aguilera latin

Speaker 1 uh she's i think so i think she has yeah i think maybe her dad or something like that is i ain't no she's a white girl

Speaker 1 that was it that's my only question

Speaker 1 That was hella random.

Speaker 1 Extremely random. What inspired that?

Speaker 1 Something I saw on the internet.

Speaker 1 It was one of our old videos. And they were like,

Speaker 1 why didn't we call her out for appropriating back in the day? And in the comments, they were like, oh, she's Latin. I was like, wait, she is.

Speaker 1 I don't fucking know what. Her father is Ecuadorian.
Ecuadorian. There we go.
There you go. Oh, that's one of those.

Speaker 1 She was the first one to grow up in the house without her dad and then use his equity in the music business. That's a thing now.

Speaker 1 I've never seen dads get so much love like they get now. Hey, my dad, my dad was mixed and he was mixed brains and he was African and he was

Speaker 1 my dad. Holy shit.
They got to stop that shit. And to answer that person's question, because nobody gave a fuck about appropriation back then, unfortunately.
That's some new shit. That's true.

Speaker 1 That's the absolute

Speaker 2 Gwen Stefani walking around.

Speaker 1 Bro, nobody cared. Are you dope? Can you sing? Can you rap? Can you whatever? All right, that's all we cared about back then.

Speaker 1 Them Gwen Stefani Stefani days.

Speaker 1 Bring him back.

Speaker 1 Gwen Steel was good, too. I love

Speaker 1 it. Them Gwen Stefani, Nellie Fetardo,

Speaker 1 all that. Nellie Fetardo went crazy, right?

Speaker 1 Huh? I ain't heard from her. I don't know.

Speaker 2 She's still performing.

Speaker 1 Is she clearing up?

Speaker 2 Yes, she's still performing. Did she go crazy? No, she had a child.

Speaker 2 She went through.

Speaker 1 Why are you not answering my question purposely?

Speaker 2 She did not go crazy.

Speaker 2 She was public about the postpartum that she experienced after childbirth um and also she has

Speaker 1 you know had some insecurities with her physical appearance as a result and so the answer she did not do nellie fittardo is the one that went crazy a little bit she had a mental breakdown on stage she had a nervous breakdown yeah i'm just basing this off some fucking reels of her i seen where she was she was acting like tori lane's dad

Speaker 1 i seen her i seen them reels

Speaker 1 because i wrote down in my notes one day, hey, why won't nobody tell Nellie Vitardo to shut the fuck up?

Speaker 1 I think she was going through postpartum, though. Thank you.
She was on the Women's History Month. She was on the road in 2007.
Yes, it is. March? Yes.
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 Every March.

Speaker 1 For like 30 years.

Speaker 1 They didn't give a fuck. Hey, put the women month right behind the niggas.

Speaker 1 Hey, let's get both them groups the fuck out of the way. Early.
That's a quarter weather break. So we can enjoy the

Speaker 1 All right, so Zab telling the boat.

Speaker 1 Hope she's doing better. Hope she's doing better.
Yeah, I hope she's doing good. Were she had some slaps?

Speaker 1 She did it. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, so I remember that many.

Speaker 1 Can I ask y'all the boat question? Can I ask the boat question? True, you can. So the internet last week was all internet internetting for sure.

Speaker 1 And people were outraged because people asked the boat boat question. And the question was, if you are in a boat with your husband, wife, significant other, and your child, a baby.

Speaker 2 How old? Were they specific about it being a baby, like newborn baby?

Speaker 1 I think what I saw was 10 months, but

Speaker 1 I'm not going to. But I'll double check that.
But let's just assume for now it's 10-month-old baby.

Speaker 1 And you can only save one.

Speaker 1 Who do you save? Now, the question itself got people going, but what got people really going was this woman in particular who made a video saying,

Speaker 1 we can make another baby. I chose that man.
He's the head of my household. He is my kid.
I saw this. I saw this.
I'm choosing him. We'll just make another baby.

Speaker 1 And people said.

Speaker 1 She got biblical on it, too. She got real biblical on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She hit some down shout dots.
And the next thing I know,

Speaker 1 the title wave,

Speaker 2 NAMI.

Speaker 1 Of course, she was. She was black? Yeah.
Got it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so people were like, how dare you? Well, what's the outrage?

Speaker 1 How you going to let your baby drown for this nigga? All right, well, y'all answer.

Speaker 1 I don't have no kids. Same.

Speaker 1 We're proud of this. 10 months, though? I don't even really know the baby like that.

Speaker 1 10 months?

Speaker 1 I think my daughter might have had it. Was she walking?

Speaker 1 What if the answer was two? What if it was two? What if it's right now?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, no. Right now it's different.

Speaker 1 Your girl got to go? yeah, she gotta go. Sorry, baby, I love you.
Why you can't say both?

Speaker 1 You're supposed to say, I'll leave, and then they survive.

Speaker 1 Actually, I was thinking, like, I really can't swear. I'm gonna just have to go for myself just to be extra sick.

Speaker 1 I'm not bringing nobody, I'm bringing this life jacket.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think there's a wrong answer. I don't think there's a wrong answer.
It would be hard for me to look at an innocent child and leave them, though.

Speaker 1 Niggas do it every day. That's for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they leave in the crib. I was about to say,

Speaker 1 why are you looking back

Speaker 1 that's the trick

Speaker 1 i'll be right back don't look him in the eyes

Speaker 1 i don't see me leaving no baby i love my wife i probably would take the i would take the baby i feel like i could yeah i mean you you could you can't make another person so whoever you can't replace either of them but i'll probably take the baby yes you can you can't make another baby no i mean you can't make that person just like you like you might make a better person

Speaker 1 You don't even know. Man.
Have you seen the dating scene? And if the baby's ill like that, it'll find a way.

Speaker 1 Make it too much.

Speaker 1 Michael Phillips would have made it happen.

Speaker 1 Man, baby, yeah, babies. I think that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, the baby's be all right. I think an adult had a better chance of swimming in the 10-month-old, right? No.
No.

Speaker 1 Y'all niggas crazy. No.
You throw a baby in the water. They just naturally just like kind of like rotate their body.
Oh,

Speaker 1 just told us last week he almost died when somebody threw him in.

Speaker 2 He was like five or something.

Speaker 1 Talking about babies, yeah, babies can swim

Speaker 1 and we're gonna find out.

Speaker 1 So, Joe, I'm hearing you say a 10-month-old, yeah, please. I'm keeping my wife, facts, keep my wife, and we're gonna fuck tonight in the name of the baby.
Oh,

Speaker 1 oh,

Speaker 1 little Derek,

Speaker 1 oh, fuck,

Speaker 1 damn,

Speaker 1 I'm gonna put some quick,

Speaker 1 Real fast. It's going to be a nine-month quick break.
Yep. Hey, I was looking at my wife.
Hey, this new baby has been beating our ass. We did need a break anyway.

Speaker 1 She needed a little 10-month break. Post-barred them, all types of shit going on.
Yeah, that man.

Speaker 1 That baby is getting punted. Wait, there's so many.

Speaker 1 There's so many babies available for adoption that need a good home. I'm not holding.
Just go pick up another one. That baby might get a Gronk spike out of me.

Speaker 1 So at what age does the answer change? Does it change it two? Does it change at three for you?

Speaker 1 Oh, if he's two, then you have to deal with it like a man.

Speaker 1 You're out of here if you're two. So you're just taking your wife every time.

Speaker 1 I just agree with the lady to whereas we're going to make another kid.

Speaker 1 Me and my wife are going to make another kid. And I'm clipped, see? So I got to keep mom.
I think you got a better chance of finding another wife than you do another baby. Oh, shit.
Yo,

Speaker 1 you can find another minute that's kind of similar.

Speaker 1 I see what Pierce Morgan and them be saying about you.

Speaker 1 Now that I think about it,

Speaker 1 they got some points. How long have you been married again? Like a year and a half.
We've been together together. We've been together like a long time ago.
It's fucked up out there.

Speaker 1 When you find the right one,

Speaker 1 it's fucked up. You know how hard it is to make a baby?

Speaker 1 And the older you get, no, I'm saying.

Speaker 1 How hard is it to make a baby? Not you. No, you.
I'm saying for a lot of people, the older you get, the harder it is.

Speaker 1 Once you turn 40, your percentage is in a 1%. Mark, Mark, you got a couple dollars.
Mark, I don't know what you're talking about. Fuck you.
IDF. You got a couple dollars, my nigga.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 all the doctors. You could be over there checking the boxes off.
Like, I want to do this.

Speaker 1 This. No, no, no.
This. All right, we can't get a baby.
Let's go get a dog.

Speaker 1 Hey, why you got to be a baby again?

Speaker 1 Let's get a cat. We tried that before.
It didn't work out. Cat won't be up the boat.

Speaker 1 Dog can swim, right?

Speaker 1 Y'all are terrible people. Mel, what would you choose?

Speaker 1 No, no, sorry.

Speaker 2 Me and Parks are, we have no kids, so we out. We out.

Speaker 1 This is hypothetical. I ain't got no 10-month old.

Speaker 1 Mel ain't saving no man.

Speaker 1 Never. Are you crazy?

Speaker 1 Y'all got my girl, Mel, fucked up if you think she's saving a man.

Speaker 2 No, actually, that's kind of crazy that you would say that, because exactly to Ice's point, how fucked up it is out there, it would be much easier for y'all to find somebody than it is for me.

Speaker 1 Hey, Mel. You, the man, and Daisy on the boat.
What a victim.

Speaker 1 Now who stays? I'm not a victim at all. It's tough being beautiful.

Speaker 2 It's called the gift in a curse for a rust and for a reason. I know you don't know anything about that.

Speaker 2 It's a man or Daisy. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Daisy can swim. Well, not with that dumbass jacket.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Fucking me.

Speaker 2 And Daisy would just be so easy to save. I'll just put her on my head and then, you know, hold on to my man.
But if you had to choose between your man, no, no, God, no, there's no choice.

Speaker 1 There is a choice. We all, you better choose when our kids don't choose.
Why was don't live for so long anyway?

Speaker 1 All dogs go to heaven. Somebody might say neither do or men, but you know.
Oh, I'm just saying, like, relationship-wise, you know what I mean? He could come and go.

Speaker 1 Daisy's gonna let you know. She'd be fucked up if you leave, if you if you save the dude and then he break up with you.
She wants to save Daisy. She don't want to say it.

Speaker 1 I'm mad we even are spending 10 seconds on saving Daisy, man.

Speaker 1 We don't kill Daisy and go head on about this damn broadcast,

Speaker 1 we could probably just throw Daisy too.

Speaker 1 She had to stop coming up with all these trick-ass questions for men anyway. Yeah.
It was for both. It was for everybody.

Speaker 1 The women answered it first. The women answered it first.

Speaker 1 And most of the women took their mad, which shocked me. I thought women would save their children.
How bad it is out there. Jesus.
No, it's just women out there that love men.

Speaker 1 I know that that's shocking. No, no, no, don't stop.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, don't keep that that narrative up.

Speaker 2 That's not, that's like really, that's super fucked up, and I will, I will fight you, you know, on the fucking BTS camera.

Speaker 1 That's bullshit. No, she didn't even sound inspired when you said that.
You didn't sound inspired at all when you said that.

Speaker 1 No, that is fucked up. I've like hey, want to bring up more fights? High standards.

Speaker 1 More shit that anybody out there fighting over?

Speaker 1 DDG and Halley Bailey. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
DDG has got to wait for Prospects. Oh, sorry, sorry, DG.
I was letting you cook in case something really hot came off the press, but nah, DDG. Hey,

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Speaker 1 The Relay Girl in Virginia. I don't know nothing about this, and this is my favorite time of Virginia.
This

Speaker 1 is awesome parks.

Speaker 1 You gotta see this, though. You have to see it.

Speaker 1 Let me go. You do have to see it.
Somebody said a little clip real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So it was a relay, you know, relay race, you run around, you pass the baton to the next runner. Sure.
So

Speaker 1 young lady's running, and the girl coming up behind her just took the baton and cold cocked her right in the back of the motherfucking head.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. I'm seeing that.
Right in the fucking noggin. Oh, shit.
Right in the head. Right in the head.
A couple

Speaker 1 She started.

Speaker 2 But now she's being interviewed.

Speaker 1 She caught a concussion. She dropped out of the relay race.
That was the funniest part.

Speaker 1 Seeing her flail off to the side like, uh.

Speaker 1 Imagine you run and somebody just knocked you aside your fucking head. Nah, that shit looked like the death and temple run.
Like

Speaker 1 when you fall off the cliff, it's like, uh.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 she wasn't in the race no more. Nah.
And this is a high school relay race, right? Yeah. That was some.
yeah oh my lord wait and then to make to add insult to injury no pun all pun

Speaker 1 then she does an interview oh here's the quote

Speaker 1 nobody is going to believe me because i can admit from the video it does look purposeful but i know my intentions and i would never hit anybody on purpose then she said after a couple of times hitting her My baton got stuck behind her back like this and it rolled up her back.

Speaker 1 I lost my balance when I pumped my arms again and she got hit.

Speaker 2 That doesn't even seem physiologically possible.

Speaker 1 To accidentally at full speed bust somebody in the head three or four times with a baton.

Speaker 1 Nigga lying.

Speaker 1 She rocked shorty.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 3 you're physically hurt, but you're not thinking of my mental rights.

Speaker 3 They're going off of one angle. That's how you're going to be able to get it.

Speaker 1 Just the attacker.

Speaker 3 My baton got stuck behind her back like this, and it rolled up her back. I lost my balance, and when I pumped my arms again, she got hit.

Speaker 3 But I know my intentions, and I would never hit somebody on purpose. They're assuming my character, calling me ghetto, racist slurs, death threats, all of this, just because of a nine-second video.

Speaker 1 I am here to take up for the attacker.

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 2 He's being a shit disturbing.

Speaker 1 Clearly,

Speaker 1 she blacked out for a second.

Speaker 1 That happens.

Speaker 1 Sometimes there's a five to six, seven second lapse in time that you can't account for.

Speaker 1 Or sometimes you feel

Speaker 1 strong in your fucking bullshit and you do it. And it takes for you to go back to the dressing room, see the footage, and say, I was wild.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 1 that was me.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I've kind of got some experience with this type of stuff. So I'm here to tell you the truth

Speaker 1 about what really happened.

Speaker 1 She was sleep running.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. But I'm here to tell you the truth.

Speaker 1 As someone that comes from

Speaker 1 the hood,

Speaker 1 I can tell this attacker girl, this is what happened. The attacker girl asked her to do some shit right before this race.
Whatever we attacking this girl for, it just happened two minutes ago.

Speaker 1 90 seconds ago. So we was tying our shoes, getting ready to go out there.
And the attacker girl must have said something like, hey girl, can you pass me a water? And the girl was like, bitch, no.

Speaker 1 Fuck you. It's like, oh, oh, okay.
Okay. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah?

Speaker 1 The attacker girl asked us something simple like,

Speaker 1 hey, girl, mama Tom right over there. You think you throw it to me real quick? And the bitch said something slick out the mouth, like we wasn't about to race,

Speaker 1 and now I'm attacking you. Bow! Boom, bat, bat, bat, bat, dot, fucking money.

Speaker 1 Yeah, don't talk slick to me two minutes ago if I'm gonna be running behind you with the baton able to clock your dumbass upside the head.

Speaker 1 Yep,

Speaker 1 okay,

Speaker 1 you know how many times

Speaker 1 we've been talking to somebody out in the world and they said something stupid and you thought to yourself,

Speaker 1 if only I had

Speaker 1 a three to five inch metal object right now, I'd slam this lady inside her fucking head.

Speaker 1 She just so happened to have it.

Speaker 1 So I don't think we should be killing her for having it. I know.
I ain't even killing her for that. I'm killing her for the response.
Yo, what about my mental?

Speaker 1 And it just just looked like that from the video. No, my nigga, we saw the video.
You should go watch the video.

Speaker 1 I just

Speaker 1 thought it looks pretty. I think she should go watch the video.
It looks intentional. Nah, show me the video from right before I clocked you.
Own it, though.

Speaker 1 Show me the video from right before I bust your stupid ass upside the head. That's going to tell the story.
We was in line at the water fountain.

Speaker 1 You stayed there for 10 minutes. I said, yo, can I get something to drink? You said something slick.
All right, bitch. Now you bust the.
BAM!

Speaker 1 That's high school, school, you said, right?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
This shit started over Instagram. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Or that. You know how these niggas get up and up.
Right. Okay, I'm going to see her.

Speaker 1 Yo, the problem, this is the problem.

Speaker 1 Y'all kids out there today are too soft. I come from Nancy Kerrigan, nigga.

Speaker 1 Hold up.

Speaker 1 Hold up. You know what I come from, nigga? The ice skate.
In the Olympics.

Speaker 1 This is just a regular high school track meet.

Speaker 1 This ain't nothing but a baton. My bitch had on ice skates.
Did a cartwheel tried to chunley her neck.

Speaker 1 She tried to end her and homeboy. And the dude.

Speaker 1 That's what. That shit was so fun back then.
It really was. That was a good time.
Nancy Kerrigan. Yo, that was crazy.
I come from fucking,

Speaker 1 what's shorty name that cut nigga to cut the nigga dick or button? Bobby bothering about it. Stop it, yo.
I come from when bitches get pissed off, they in shit. This ain't nothing but a little baton.

Speaker 1 Don't put that back in the air, though. You don't need them knowing about that one.
Yeah, well, keep my shit. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 They wouldn't found this dick.

Speaker 1 They did. They wouldn't found it.
That nigga dick was in the bushes.

Speaker 1 That nigga dick was in the bushes in the woods. That's crazy.
Put that shit back on ice. If you cut my dick off, leave it in the house, bitch.

Speaker 1 Don't pick my shit up and toss it into the woods.

Speaker 1 Yeah, thank God God the police found my shit in the book and fucking bushes. That's funny, right?

Speaker 1 Huh?

Speaker 1 And she probably cut your shit off on small.

Speaker 1 No, right at the base. I thought it was a tall dish.

Speaker 1 Come on, cut the tiny meat.

Speaker 1 I thought I found the belly button in the woods.

Speaker 1 That's a dick.

Speaker 1 It's just a little baton, is all I'm trying to say. Oh, man.
Yeah. That's all I'm trying to say.
Ain't nothing wrong with a little baton. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And when you wait, listen, side note, this don't have nothing to do with this.

Speaker 1 And when you wake up early in the morning, like at 3.30 in the morning like me and just start watching shit, you ain't got no business watching. I've just been watching random clips of Bill Clinton.

Speaker 1 That's an interesting choice.

Speaker 1 Well, because we was talking about

Speaker 1 the Lorena Bobby girl, which led me to some of the things we've seen in the 90s, which was Bill getting his dick sucked in the fucking joint.

Speaker 1 But that was the reveal. That was the tell.
If you just look at clips of Bill Clinton around women,

Speaker 1 it's the funniest shit in the world.

Speaker 1 And then when you connect that to pizzerias and Hillary,

Speaker 1 oh my God. Yo, waking up early,

Speaker 1 it don't do the brain no good. It don't do the brain no good.
Don't sound like that. Bill Clinton is on some bullshit.

Speaker 1 He was a bull. And why don't Bonnabite say nothing?

Speaker 2 I mean, they did.

Speaker 1 They tried to impeach him for

Speaker 1 getting his dicks up. They got him for, yeah, for the line.
They tried to get him for the line, but they were just mad and he was fucking up. They know Bill Clinton's name was on the damn edge.

Speaker 1 Y'all know if there was one place to be, it was Epstein Island. I know goddamn well.
But I heard Bill heard.

Speaker 1 Bill used to get busy out there. I mean,

Speaker 1 I know two models. One is pretty well known that told me how Bill used to get down.
You know how Bill gets down, yo.

Speaker 1 The Secret Service started snitching on it. They used to call Air Force One Airfuck One.
Oh, shit. Because he would bring him on the plane.

Speaker 1 That sounds round.

Speaker 1 And it sounds lit.

Speaker 1 What the fuck are we talking about?

Speaker 1 Damn. I guess what else are you going to do? If you're not going to be able to do that,

Speaker 1 did they give you any details? There's only one way to compete. Oh, yeah?

Speaker 2 I'm just wondering if the BDE was actually BDE.

Speaker 1 They didn't tell me that part.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 but I well are you inquiring about if Bill Clinton was home?

Speaker 1 It's a logical question

Speaker 2 to ask right after hearing that he was on Airfuck One.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I didn't ask when she told me.

Speaker 1 I just thought she might have volunteered the info.

Speaker 1 Was she hanging?

Speaker 1 But I feel like women volunteer that when they want to. That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 So she didn't say nothing, so that might be a tell in and of itself, but I didn't ask. She definitely, yeah.

Speaker 1 I was impressed at Bill, to be honest.

Speaker 1 Fucking old Air Force One? This particular model, I was like, damn.

Speaker 1 It's depressing. I was like, damn.
Really? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Salute?

Speaker 1 He had a time. 90s was his era.

Speaker 1 You don't say.

Speaker 1 All he could do is just die now. Like, ain't nothing left.

Speaker 1 Gotta be tough to go back to the old ball and chain.

Speaker 1 Shit. So, y'all wouldn't wild if y'all was the president? No.
Okay, got it. No.

Speaker 1 I would hold the dignity of the office. You got it.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 No, you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 No, you wouldn't. Yes, I would, man.
Shit. Sure.
I respect the position. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What position? That's what you would do. Gotcha.

Speaker 1 You would respect the position, for sure.

Speaker 1 A couple different positions. That for a bunch of

Speaker 1 shits. That nigga Marga being there with his foot on the desk like the insurrection niggas.

Speaker 1 Mark being him putting his dick on the desk.

Speaker 1 Margaret, that'd be the next season of scandal. Oh shit.

Speaker 1 Oh shit.

Speaker 1 I know I would do some wild shit in White House.

Speaker 1 I did some wild shit in just regular house when that was white hat. That's my point, though.
Niggas

Speaker 1 would wild the fuck out. Tell me about.

Speaker 1 Tell me about the time you fucking snuck the hostess of the poker game into a closet while your wife was home or your girl was home.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Your house don't know. That was very specific.
That was odd light.

Speaker 1 Your house don't got no like secret compartments or rooms that it would take your wife about 20 minutes to get to.

Speaker 1 You can get all round.

Speaker 1 Not that.

Speaker 1 There's not a basement or an attic or a

Speaker 1 secret hallway

Speaker 1 or the previous owner was a photographer, so there's a dark room somewhere.

Speaker 1 We just take your wife, you'd at least be able to hear the footsteps coming at 4 a.m. Why do niggas do? Why do people fuck at their house? Like cheat in their house?

Speaker 2 Laziness.

Speaker 1 Is it like the thrill? I was going to say is the thrill of the danger? Where else are you supposed to do? Throw them both. Hotels, their house, the car, the movies, the bathroom, anywhere but home.

Speaker 1 Literally anywhere. Right.

Speaker 1 Steve Jobs dead at that.

Speaker 1 Steve Jobs dead at all that cheating in the hotel shit. It's over.
That's like an ex-link up.

Speaker 1 That's a meetup. Cheating in a hotel is a meetup.
That's like Biker Week. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's like Myrtle Beach or some shit. Oh, shit.
Nah, you caught. Cheating at a hotel? I mean, home feels like even worse.

Speaker 1 Nah.

Speaker 1 Oh, all right. I'll take the opposing side.

Speaker 1 I guess I'm forced yet again to take the opposing side. I'm a shot.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 they keep misrepresenting me.

Speaker 1 But nah, home sounds private. You safe.
You know everything. You got a password to your camera.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Home sound like, I mean.

Speaker 2 That just feels, I mean, yeah, I couldn't have feels morally wrong, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, cheating feels morally wrong to me, but like that's just an extra. The house feels like an extra level of disrespect.
Like, I feel like your partner could get over you cheating.

Speaker 1 You cheating, like, in y'all bed or y'all crib, y'all couch, y'all closet, whatever the fuck it is. Like, sound like.

Speaker 1 I feel like that would be harder to get over. If my wife cheated on me in the house, I'd feel worse.

Speaker 1 Your partner's not ever supposed to find out that that happened in the house or anywhere.

Speaker 1 No, no, they could get you for the cheating

Speaker 1 in the house. How did they find that out? Oh, my God.
You dropped the ball somewhere. When did they see that side?

Speaker 1 Come on, man. You dropped the ball somewhere.

Speaker 2 It's not you dropping the ball.

Speaker 1 Oh, you was fucking a chick with hair?

Speaker 1 I was fucking a chick on key hole.

Speaker 1 Fucking glitter body. I'll be fighting cancer patients totally, buddy.
Oh, my God. Hey, the hair coming in this house.
That is dark. You shitting me?

Speaker 1 Cancer patients got good boots, too. Yo.

Speaker 1 Hard to come back to that one. I got nothing.
Nothing. Nothing.
Let them go. Is it bad to be turned on by cancer survivors?

Speaker 1 Y'all are strong.

Speaker 1 Resilient? Resilient too?

Speaker 1 Y'all sick. I just want to say y'all are sick.
That shit is sexy, man.

Speaker 1 And if they kill the catching,

Speaker 1 they say, all right, this shit almost took me out. When they ringing the bell, you'd be like,

Speaker 1 well, look, I won.

Speaker 1 Just ball with a few scars. You'd be like,

Speaker 1 I would fuck this shit.

Speaker 1 You know what? Forget it. Forget it.
Nope, never mind. They need love, too.
They need love too. They need love.

Speaker 1 I thought it was some fire games to survive.

Speaker 1 You got to bless them.

Speaker 1 You gotta bless them.

Speaker 1 That's bad.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think that's bad at all. Then why are y'all getting on tense? I'm saying that.
It's dark. It's funny.

Speaker 1 It's dark.

Speaker 1 It's dark to say cancer survivors be fire.

Speaker 1 Yes. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 That should be light. That should be

Speaker 1 a beacon of hope.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Don't help me bark.

Speaker 1 That didn't kill her. Let me try it.

Speaker 1 Men just be.

Speaker 1 She'd be button strong.

Speaker 1 I'm leaving this.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's too far.

Speaker 1 No, I'm leaving.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 So listen.

Speaker 1 Speaking of fucking

Speaker 1 the heir

Speaker 1 The heir

Speaker 1 of the Hermes estate

Speaker 1 wants to leave his fortune to the gardener.

Speaker 1 So he's thinking about adopting the gardener so that the gardener can be the successor to his $11 billion estate. He is without wife,

Speaker 1 the heir, not the gardener. He doesn't have a wife.
He doesn't have children. which is why they say he's considering this.
The gardener does have a wife and children. I got a 60 yards.

Speaker 1 How long have they been fucking?

Speaker 1 That's his yard. See, me, that's the first thing I thought.
I'm seeing people say, oh, the gardener probably was the only one that treated him like a human and he was really nice to him.

Speaker 1 I'm like, he was fucking that darn. He was working at E7.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yo, he was busting that garden.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 God. Yeah, man.
I'm not leaving nobody $11 billion.

Speaker 1 And $6 million in real estate. Houses everywhere.
This is the second one of these

Speaker 1 billionaire dudes that decided to leave the money to the gardener.

Speaker 1 So while y'all are on to something now, we just going to expose the truth. Burger's that good pussy.

Speaker 1 Exactly. That's the takeaway.

Speaker 1 Gardener's got that fire.

Speaker 1 Fuck cancer patients. This is the gardener.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Shit, man.
Salute to the the gardener, man. Mm-hmm.
What come up? Why you got to adopt the gardener? Why can't you just give the gardener the money?

Speaker 2 That's a good question. Probably because maybe other members of the family might.
You see, they got no.

Speaker 1 Also, if he adopts the gardener, wouldn't that fall under a different category in Pornhub? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Stepchild?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I feel like there's a genre there. Oh, God.
Sub-genre. You might move it up.
Oh, yeah. Let's move it up the hill.

Speaker 1 I don't feel like the gardener can go home and explain that to his wife and kids just and get the gardener line off. I think you can.
I think you bring 11 billion.

Speaker 1 With $11 billion, you can get anything off.

Speaker 1 I fucking killed those legends, baby.

Speaker 1 I fucking killed the fucking.

Speaker 1 Please. 11 billion.
I can walk up my house and fuck the gardener, baby. Here's $11 billion.

Speaker 1 You got to go home and just tell the truth. Right.
Fuck it.

Speaker 1 I think gardeners might just be fast.

Speaker 1 If I got a billion dollars and every day I look out my window, you out there looking good,

Speaker 1 sweatfloor, the sun all on his body, bent over in the bushes,

Speaker 1 working on the side. The sun all out there shining on you.

Speaker 1 I mean, look at the sun shining on the garden out there like that. That's crazy.
Strong hands.

Speaker 1 Watching the front yard, watching the backyard.

Speaker 1 At least assuming too. The grass starts looking greener, the plants growing around you.
So you know you go with his hands. Usually it's the ball.

Speaker 1 And you're a cancer survivor.

Speaker 1 Nigga, where is my robe?

Speaker 1 Sometimes you got to grab the robe and just go outside. Like, yo, what you doing, man? What you doing, yo? Spark up a conversation.
Let's take a break, man. Come on.

Speaker 1 Come on, pop your ass up here in this room. Brought you some lemonade.
Yeah, gardener these fucking pubes.

Speaker 1 You missed some grass.

Speaker 1 Sick.

Speaker 1 11 Billy, though.

Speaker 1 Jesus. Wow.
Would you fuck your gardener for 11 Billy?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. I'll fuck pretty much anything.

Speaker 1 Insert any word

Speaker 1 in that space. I don't care.
11 billion? Yes.

Speaker 1 What would you do? If you had 11 billion, what would you do right now? Whatever the fuck I want.

Speaker 1 But what is that?

Speaker 1 But what is that? What does it look like?

Speaker 1 Now you done fucked the gardener. You got gardener saliva all on your shit.
You're in the shower. Like, you got the 11 billion.
11 billion. What are you going to do besides shower?

Speaker 1 Nigga.

Speaker 1 And shit, if the gardener gave you 11 billion, it ain't over when you get in the shower.

Speaker 1 Hey, go ahead and walk up in there. Poplar Ray for round two.

Speaker 1 Definitely got to wash your back.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 1 The gardener putting it down to

Speaker 1 gardener bust his ass. He putting it down.

Speaker 1 We terrible. Absolutely.
How do we get here? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Do y'all think there's such a thing as, and then we can find something else to talk about instead of letting my ignorant brain bleed where the part is going.

Speaker 1 Y'all think there's like a such thing as like

Speaker 1 death guilt? Right? Like, let's say you're the air dude

Speaker 1 and you got all this money. You've been busting the gardener ass for 60 years.

Speaker 1 60 years straight. No kids, no wife, just gardener ass.

Speaker 1 What's wrong still with just dying on the you know good-looking tip

Speaker 1 or you can be somewhere in the middle right now

Speaker 1 you did your thing while i was on earth but leaving them 11 billion

Speaker 1 yeah that's a lot from what i read it was something where it's like a something if he just were to pass the money would go to like in some foundation or he didn't want it to do that so it's like this is my way of controlling where it go that's spite yeah a lot of them do that though a lot of them have

Speaker 1 i don't want to what show am i watching oh anything on zeus like a thigh i am watching everything on zeus

Speaker 1 i'm not gonna hold you i'm heavy on the zeus channel what you watching milky the plumber what's his name what's my man name to keep fighting anybody that whack 100 just got into some shit oh aaron the plumber aaron the plumber yeah milky milky the plumber

Speaker 1 he's back on that garden right yeah

Speaker 1 joe just gonna gonna fuck his whole staff.

Speaker 1 If you work in his house, I'm talking about his house staff. Clear that up.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't do that. Power dynamics.

Speaker 1 That's fair. I don't know if it's still power dynamics.
If you

Speaker 1 gave him 11 billion. No, he's got power.
I'm about to say, Pablo got the pay for that.

Speaker 1 But nah,

Speaker 1 people be trying to find ways to, I don't want it to go here, so let me find a way to circumvent that.

Speaker 1 By giving it to the gardener, though? Man, I've seen people left the fucking money to their cat.

Speaker 2 Sacks. Yeah.
And their dogs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's wild. Some male shit.
100%.

Speaker 1 Mel do something stupid like that. Oh, it's today.

Speaker 1 For her. Long-living, everlasting life.

Speaker 1 For the record, no, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 Just saying, these are the people in my family that will get the stuff.

Speaker 1 Do y'all want to talk about...

Speaker 1 Hold on,

Speaker 1 just to clear it up. He has, it was a succession agreement that he had with a charity that he established in 2011.

Speaker 1 so if he don't have any um like heirs yeah any heirs then it goes to them oh so he ain't got no choice now he's like fuck that charity yeah i gotta yeah i don't it's not going to this charity let me

Speaker 1 all right cool how bad must you hate the charity to want to give all 11 billion dollars to your gardener

Speaker 1 a lot yeah yeah yeah unless he made some deal with the gardener like i'm gonna give this to you and then you distribute it the way i want it to yeah

Speaker 1 that's probably what it is and it's it's half and he's leaving them half of the

Speaker 2 fortune. Fortune.

Speaker 1 Damn. Do y'all have gardeners? I don't.
No, I don't have a gardener.

Speaker 1 He don't live there, but I got a gardener. Okay.
Luis.

Speaker 1 Just coincidentally.

Speaker 1 You're fucking racist.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Luis.

Speaker 1 Luis, huh? Luis? He was the best qualified for the job. He had a fat ass, didn't he? That's what it was.

Speaker 1 So nasty.

Speaker 1 What background is he?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just ask.

Speaker 1 Do y'all,

Speaker 1 we got to talk about

Speaker 1 Odell and Juski. Come on.
Yeah. Come on.
We've had enough fun with the gardener

Speaker 1 and the cancer survivor. Shout out to y'all.

Speaker 1 Y'all do be looking good. And I'm feeling a low hair, like bald.
You like bald? Hell, what? I'm a sucker. If they can blow up the bald hair.
Absolute sucker for bald, Caesar, low air on a woman.

Speaker 1 That's already somebody.

Speaker 1 The confidence that that different confidence, different level of

Speaker 1 yeah, but I

Speaker 1 the bald was never my thing, not even in the Janet era, never my thing.

Speaker 1 What about like the half bald shit? I don't want to just be and then feel the same shit as mine. Like, wait a minute, hold on.
I don't want to feel that. What about like the Rihanna Cassie half bald?

Speaker 1 Hold up for a second, Bart. Just so we're clear, her head is not going to feel like yours.
Help me.

Speaker 1 Help me. me.
Help me. If you met a girl and her head feels like yours,

Speaker 1 you shouldn't be with that shit. She's smart.
And then, yes, I would be with her. I told you, I ain't been back to the strip club since my little boy-headed girl started buying wigs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would turn me off.

Speaker 1 My little bald, bald stripper I used to speak so highly of, she's still fine. She's still fine, even with the wig.
But it's not the same.

Speaker 1 I went in with my girl after hyping up the ball girls. You're going to come out with a wig.
I'm like, bitch,

Speaker 1 this is not what now you just look like the rest of them.

Speaker 1 That shit is sexy. I wonder what money did.

Speaker 1 Huh? Wonder what money did. Her money might have gone.

Speaker 1 Everybody not really,

Speaker 1 it's a smaller market for that. Everybody not with the ball.

Speaker 1 So maybe her putting a wig on might have opened. Well, people would have been with it.
Yeah, but I spent more than that. So, like Amber Rose.
Oh, yeah, that's true. You mean like Amber Rose?

Speaker 1 Amber Rose, I didn't even know had a head.

Speaker 1 That don't count.

Speaker 1 fair enough. Respect.

Speaker 1 See, so it does count.

Speaker 1 See, Amber Rose

Speaker 1 and her views. Niggas don't get views.
I don't care. What views? What? What?

Speaker 1 I remember the day them things leaked.

Speaker 1 Oh, niggas went to work.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker 1 I ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker 1 Niggas went to work. I called one for you.
I was there for that a lot.

Speaker 1 Respectfully. Salute.

Speaker 1 Boy. Yo, do women do that, male? What? Like what we saying with

Speaker 1 Amber, like when her shits, when her shits dropped, like, niggas went to work.

Speaker 1 Like, has a dude's shit ever dropped and then y'all went to work?

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 2 can't necessarily speak for myself,

Speaker 2 but I'm sure, yeah.

Speaker 1 What's your group chat be saying?

Speaker 1 Typical words, I don't know. Yeah, put it on someone else.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 Yeah, y'all ain't see the Mufasa vid drop and go run to a closet.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 you would have needed to see more.

Speaker 1 So, which one did you see that made you do it?

Speaker 2 Me, I said I didn't do it.

Speaker 1 But your home, your group. Oh, yeah, your group chat.
Yeah, somebody else. Yeah, somebody.
Your friends. Oh, shit, such and such.
I'm about to go get the rose.

Speaker 2 You know, Chris Brown's pictures kind of had women,

Speaker 1 you know, little going to work. Yeah, probably.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is that age of program?

Speaker 1 You can't do that, mal.

Speaker 2 I mean, how old was he at the time? Wasn't he like in his 30s, like early 30s?

Speaker 1 You're going to jail, he's trying to trip her up, trying to trip you up, yo.

Speaker 1 And again, I did not.

Speaker 1 Again, I did not. It wasn't her.
Yes,

Speaker 1 citizens' arrest girl.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the girls start telling them themselves. The name is of college players and shit.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, girl.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 It is. Drisky and

Speaker 1 serious matter. Oh, yeah.
Serious matter.

Speaker 1 I don't feel like I need to talk on serious matters with Marcus here. Yeah, Mark Texas.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I feel like that's a marked thing.

Speaker 2 They both issued.

Speaker 1 And if Mel is there in support, then take it away. You break it down.

Speaker 1 You break it down.

Speaker 2 Listen, I'll just read what

Speaker 2 they each had to say, and then we can proceed to, you know, converse about that. This is Druski's statement.

Speaker 1 Statement about what? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So they've been named in

Speaker 1 a Jane Doe.

Speaker 2 In puff lawsuits.

Speaker 1 These fucking Jane Doe is getting it done right now. Yeah.
So

Speaker 2 Druski said, this allegation is a fabricated lie. I wasn't a public figure in 2018.
I was broke living with my mom without any connections to the entertainment industry at the time of this allegation.

Speaker 2 So the inclusion of my name is truly outlandish.

Speaker 2 Good choice of words.

Speaker 2 My heart breaks for actual victims of abuse, but I'm fully confident that the evidence will expose this falsehood and the individuals who are maliciously trying to game the legal system to peddle false narratives.

Speaker 1 And the narrative is that

Speaker 1 Beckham Druski Diddy, singer-rapper, I don't know if she's a rapper, singer Jaguar Wright, among others is a dozen sees a wild

Speaker 1 wilder game right there that they all these Jane puff moms

Speaker 1 these Jane Doe journals

Speaker 1 crazy

Speaker 1 Jaguar in the mix yeah they do jagging which is which is where I always always check out I check out at any site of Jaguar rights name likeness or anything what they're accused of kidnapping drugging and assaulting multiple individuals after allegedly Diddy heard her say that she believed that he was involved in the murder of Tupac.

Speaker 1 So basically,

Speaker 1 so the idea is,

Speaker 1 Diddy thinks he heard she say something about Tupac. So he assembled Druski, Odell Beckham,

Speaker 1 Justice League of Avengers, I say.

Speaker 1 And they all assaulted

Speaker 1 this woman, two Jane Does, and another woman whose name I won't say, but his name is listed on the court document. Like, I don't want to do a whole bunch of laughing.
Y'all don't believe Jane Doe?

Speaker 2 i'm gonna say that it sounds pretty preposterous it does it just sounds pretty preposterous we're not laughing at the matter no we're because essay is serious

Speaker 1 the specifics are wild me being shady what drewski said i like that little you know what i mean like we don't want to uh he said uh uh

Speaker 1 my heart breaks for actual victims of abuse but i am fully confident that the evidence will expose this falsehood no blah blah we don't we don't want to hear drewski's response because that's what made shit believable okay Okay, what about that?

Speaker 1 Get to Odell. I got you.

Speaker 1 Odell was like, say word that my name is in this shit.

Speaker 2 Boy, I'll tell you what. This world makes absolutely no sense.
I am covered by God, He will prevail. I know who I am.
I know who you are.

Speaker 1 Keep your head. Odell.
You will be cleared.

Speaker 2 Shit's stupid.

Speaker 1 Odell, get a publicist, my nigga.

Speaker 1 Odell, I'm not going to hold you. That's a terrible word.
Take your Bitcoin salary. He wouldn't do the Bitcoin shit, right? He did.
Take 10 Bitcoin Satoshis and go get you a fucking

Speaker 1 publishers so you cannot sound like this, Odell. Yeah, because you the one need a publishers.

Speaker 1 Because if my brain is getting to going,

Speaker 1 no, no, no, stop.

Speaker 1 Drewski, all right.

Speaker 1 That's my man.

Speaker 1 I have to leave him. I don't see it.

Speaker 1 I don't see it.

Speaker 1 My imagination is great enough to insert Odell. Whoa.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. That was the pause of the year, bro.

Speaker 1 That was egregious. You had to work with the ball.
I mean, I wasn't finished, but it's a hostile environment.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 1 It's a hostile work environment now, man. God damn.

Speaker 1 As I was saying,

Speaker 1 insert Odell in some fucking story. Smarty fans.

Speaker 1 But yes, that was egregious. I got it.
That was wild. Odell, get a publicist, man.
What did Jack Rob Ratt have to say?

Speaker 1 He hasn't responded to it. I don't know.
I was shocked. That's what I want to hear.
Yeah, I want to hear that. Did y'all read the complaint? No, sir.

Speaker 1 It went into detail what took place. And it said, like.
Oh, yeah, Druski was using the girls like a slipping slide, right? Jumping on top of her with the baby.

Speaker 1 Stop. We can't laugh at this, Parks.

Speaker 1 But yes.

Speaker 1 He jumped on her and used her as a slipping slide.

Speaker 1 I don't believe Druski did that.

Speaker 1 I don't believe it just just happened. I don't believe any of this happened.
Logistically, I just don't see how that can physically happen.

Speaker 1 Yo, it's him.

Speaker 1 So, y'all are laughing at the Jane Doe. Y'all are not laughing.
We're all laughing. Mel and Mark? Oh.
Y'all laughing at the Jane Doe. No, we're laughing at the law.
I'm not laughing at the Joe.

Speaker 1 I'm laughing at Park. We're not believing all women.

Speaker 1 That's who image is insane.

Speaker 2 Ice, continue, please. Is there any more to it that's the most ludicrous part of it?

Speaker 1 What was Jaguar doing?

Speaker 1 I feel I feel really bad um for we're at a moment now where there's a feeding frenzy because Diddy has so many cases and so many charges and there are a lot of lawyers

Speaker 1 unscrupulous lawyers who are just throwing everything at the wall hoping that people will be so afraid of having their name in the news that they'll pay to not have their name in the news and I think more people are coming forward and saying I'm not I'm not going with that there are a lot of women out there and men who are assaulted, who are harmed.

Speaker 1 And I hate that stories like this get the attention and not the ones that are actually legitimate and plausible. And I'm not, and for me in this case, it's not even that I don't believe the Jane Does.

Speaker 1 It's that I don't even know if there are Jane Does. A lot of these lawyers make up people.
You know, they literally manufacture people to make a case hoping that they can get paid.

Speaker 1 So, you know, I hope the truth comes out and it prevails, but this is not a good thing. I ain't going to hold you.
I watched a lot of scandal when that show was out.

Speaker 1 This shit looked like a play out of Olivia Pope's playbook to me.

Speaker 1 What's the strategy? If I'm puff? Oh, you think it's a puff strategy? I got it. Just keep throwing a bunch of bullshit out there and let it happen.

Speaker 2 Keep signing executive orders.

Speaker 1 That's another reverse card. That is a reverse card.
I'm just saying,

Speaker 1 this is a great play.

Speaker 1 Not saying he did it, but if you were. Shady bitches existed before this puff trial came about.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about if I'm on trial and it's some shit that I did,

Speaker 1 let me get a bunch of this bullshit out there. And when people start to see, okay, that's bullshit.
Now you might start to question everything. And this helps his case.
Damn.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the idea.

Speaker 1 That is a legitimate strategy. I don't know if it's puff strategy.
Yeah, I'm not saying it,

Speaker 1 but it does cast out. And that's the thing.

Speaker 1 Oftentimes, when people are accused of egregious crimes and lots of them, it makes the juries find it harder to imagine that it's true because they don't believe this might conceivably do 100 things.

Speaker 1 If you did three things, but we got 20 cases here

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 15 of the 20 are complete bullshit. Like, you could just see through it.

Speaker 1 After a while, you're like, all right, I see what's going on here. All of these are bullshit.

Speaker 1 And that's the thing. It raises doubt in people's minds.
It'll raise doubt. It'll be an issue with a trial.
And look, we six weeks ago. It's over the strategy.

Speaker 1 Let me throw a bunch of fake rape cases my way to help me be.

Speaker 1 That's bold. Because if they're debunked before we even go to trial,

Speaker 1 then I can start to say, yo, it's just all been bullshit. I think that takes too much of the onus off of shady bitches and shady lawyers.

Speaker 1 And I think we have enough years of seeing shady bitches and shady lawyers go to work and not enough be done when we actually find out that it's people being shady. That's right.

Speaker 1 There needs to be... a law changed.

Speaker 1 There needs to be something changed so that something is done and these people are handled differently. Because do I believe that Druski and Odell and these people, do I believe this? No, I don't.

Speaker 1 Let me just stick with Druski because I really don't believe it about him.

Speaker 1 Do I believe any of this about Druski? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Is it going to matter when his innocence is fucking proven? Absolutely not. It's not going to matter at all.

Speaker 1 Just somebody searching the name Drewski right now and seeing some of this bullshit from a Jane Doe isn't paying. That's enough.
That's enough.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's more than enough. You're talking about somebody who had two commercials running the Super Bowl.
You're talking about somebody who's at the peak prime of his career.

Speaker 1 Just the allegation, just the lie, lie,

Speaker 1 because I believe it's a lie. That lie

Speaker 1 is hurtful. That lie is enough, even when disproven, is enough to get companies.
The damage is still be done. Yo, dog, the risk is not worth the reward.
I'm stepping away from this.

Speaker 1 And I don't think that's fair. It's not.
I don't think that's fair. There needs to be some type of a false allegation, false accusation law or something.
There needs to be a lot of people.

Speaker 1 I mean, there is, there are many, there is. There are.
There are. But

Speaker 1 then they need to update it. Or they need to start enforcing it.

Speaker 1 They don't enforce it is the issue.

Speaker 1 It needs to be enforced. And it's not just for sexual assault.
It's for everything. But I think part of the issue is we live in a society that doesn't believe

Speaker 1 women and doesn't believe survivors in general, men or women, but particularly doesn't believe women. Right.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I think people are reluctant to add more to the pile that will discourage people from coming forward when they are assaulted and when they are harmed. That's the other side of that is that I agree.

Speaker 1 If you're lying, you should be held accountable. But there's a lot of people who aren't lying who can still get called liars.

Speaker 1 And if there's more laws and more intimidation and more threats against those people, then they're going to be even more afraid to stand up and speak out. So that's the thing.

Speaker 1 I think even that is part of the problem. That muddies the waters.
We're not talking about actual victims and the fear that they have with coming forward and people not believing. But unfortunately,

Speaker 1 let me land. We're talking about people.
that it's proven in this Jay-Z case recently. They say, TMZ doesn't say that.
Other people said it.

Speaker 1 We have evidence that says this girl conspired with Tony Busby to come up with this plot. Right.

Speaker 1 Case closed.

Speaker 1 We're not talking about

Speaker 1 leaving it open for what you think and open for interpretation. We're talking about when it's a clear, proven fact that this person is lying on somebody, there needs to be penalties.
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 I'm saying

Speaker 1 the downside of that is that if you start enforcing that law or there's a sense that that law is going to be enforced, witnesses and victims get intimidated all the time.

Speaker 1 And that becomes another tool that the other side will use. Powerful people will say, well, if you come forward, I'm going to make you look like a liar.

Speaker 1 I'm going to call the police on you, and you're going to go to jail. They do it all the time.
Especially in these cases where it's difficult to prove. I get that.
To begin with.

Speaker 1 I guess what I'm saying. Yeah.
You're saying when it's open and shut, but that gets

Speaker 1 when it's open and shut. Right.
What you're saying, it's not that, but it still has implications. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
I get it. I get it.

Speaker 1 Man. But that slip and slide is wild.
And also,

Speaker 1 but until they do something about it, we're not going to stop seeing this. That's true.

Speaker 1 And just because you mentioned that Jay-Z accused her, there's another statement that came out after that where she says they asked her to sign an affidavit saying her claims are false and she refused.

Speaker 1 And she's doubling down that

Speaker 1 I didn't conspire with him, and this happened. Got it.
So they're going back and forth with that. We got it.
And she has to, because if she doesn't do that, then she gets prosecuted.

Speaker 1 So she rather look like he said she said that she loses than look like, okay, I admit I lied.

Speaker 1 And then they, because with Jay-Z's resources and the public attention, if she says, yeah, I conspired, the next step is she's getting prosecuted.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Perjury, fraud, all those things.

Speaker 1 Nasty.

Speaker 1 It's disgusting, bro. Yeah, I hate it.

Speaker 1 Because how do you avoid that?

Speaker 1 Like, that's what I was thinking when the story broke. When the story broke, I was like, hmm, what an interesting concoction of people to put in a story.
Like, give me Odell, Jaguar. Drewski.

Speaker 1 Like, I wouldn't have even scripted this. It was like he just looked at her algorithm.
Right. And just said, he's all doing my corporate shit.
Yeah, and just said, okay.

Speaker 1 That's rough. It's after the Super Bowl, like you said, Jewski's been in two commercials.

Speaker 1 He's up.

Speaker 1 Name is everywhere now. You Google Diddy, Sexual Assault, Jaguar is going to come up.

Speaker 1 I mean, it literally feels like just a mishmash of people. Yeah.
And I know Jaguar wasn't involved in it.

Speaker 1 I am confident that Jaguar wasn't involved in anything, as confident as I am with Druski, for whatever reason. You know, just because I know who people mix with and who people don't.

Speaker 1 And when you look at the time period of 2018, it just doesn't add up. I mean, Odell said he wouldn't, he's never been in that part of California before.
And I think Druski said the same thing.

Speaker 1 It's just, I don't know, a lot of it looks like it's just a mess. You're not inviting Jack Walt Wright to the same freak off you invited Odell to.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Nah, that part.
Sorry. Respectfully.
Or

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah,

Speaker 1 respectfully.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Niggas just made the freak off. Oh my God, man.
It's over.

Speaker 1 Freak off at your own risk.

Speaker 1 You can't even do it the flyway no more. We don't guys lost track of what the flyway is.

Speaker 1 With consent. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And LEDs.

Speaker 1 Consent, LEDs. I don't come up with a list real quick.

Speaker 1 Look at y'all. You can have that, bro.
I'll let y'all know that. You was there? I wasn't at you.
I wasn't there. No, I was not.
You were there.

Speaker 1 Yes, you were.

Speaker 1 Yes, you were there.

Speaker 1 See when they talk about the lie? Ice. You were

Speaker 1 trying to get to go have a break. I don't know who believe.
Ice was there.

Speaker 1 The freak off be. Ice was always at the freak off.

Speaker 2 How did you know it was going to be a freak off to avoid it?

Speaker 1 I wasn't there. The LED lights.
Yeah, that was a little light. But didn't he install them? Tell them about the New Year's Eve party.

Speaker 1 Now I'm going to take support.

Speaker 1 Yo, you back to that installation joke? I can't. You back to that installation joke.
It was a good callback. He's installing the LEDs.
Now I'm doing the LEDs.

Speaker 1 Yo, tell them about the New Year's Eve party, what you was doing. What I was doing,

Speaker 1 it was a party. We was having fun at a party.

Speaker 1 It wasn't a freak off. It started.
He was having a freak off issue. Yes, it was.
It was New Year's. He was installing TVs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everybody wanted to watch the ball drop. I had to get that one.
Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 I'll pay that one. I'll pay that one.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I had to get the TV working. So, you know, that's it.
Then the ball dropped.

Speaker 1 It's cool, Freeze. That's it.
I won't tell nobody else. I wasn't.
But you was there. I I was not at it.
There's nothing wrong with being there as long as it's consent. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You never been to a free golf? No.

Speaker 1 You know, Helmie went and locked himself in the bathroom for four hours. That nigga locked himself in the bathroom for five hours.

Speaker 1 He's on his Game Boy.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Playing Call of Duty. That nigga Helmie pulled something off to the side and got missing right for the night.
See y'all in the morning. Big Homie.

Speaker 1 I don't remember this. I don't think he's talking about.
Oh, those are the best nights, man. Anyway, um,

Speaker 1 want to talk about Nellie? What'd Nellie do?

Speaker 1 He said. I want to talk about Nellie's ex.

Speaker 1 Why we never talked about that? Nellie's ex.

Speaker 1 I don't even want to get him. When the exes do that, I don't even want to get them no lights.
Wait, what happened?

Speaker 1 Nellie's ex said

Speaker 1 when I broke up with Nellie, I did so thinking that the space, the time, and the distance would bring us closer together and maybe he would spin the block and

Speaker 1 we would be tighter. He did.
He did spin the block. He spun the block.
He just turned right.

Speaker 1 He spun a different block. Think about spinning.

Speaker 1 Got his Shanti pregnant and married her. Yep.
So

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 L.

Speaker 1 Hold your L. Ex's got to learn to hold their L's.
Word. Like, why are you even speaking on him?

Speaker 1 Happily married. Was this a recent post? Yeah.
This was recent. This was recent.
Oh, okay. All right.

Speaker 2 Because I know she was saying something.

Speaker 1 She's been saying something. Every time she pops up, it's because she's talking about him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't do that while I'm in my happiest. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 Period. Go sit down.
Go get happy. How about that?

Speaker 2 I can understand the first time that she made the statement. It was like, you know,

Speaker 2 I'm sure she was inundated with a lot of people saying something. So she wanted to perhaps give some clarity.
Now,

Speaker 2 marriage, kidborn, girl,

Speaker 2 abort mission. Abort mission.

Speaker 1 Just go find you some happiness. Be like, people.
I got mine. Simple, very simple rules.

Speaker 1 When you have an ex that is now engaged or married, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 You're done now. Speaking about that relationship out of respect.

Speaker 1 Agreed. Right.
But agreed. Unfortunately, when that's all that will get you posted, you got to hold on to that.

Speaker 1 That's what happened.

Speaker 1 Because she could go talk about anything else.

Speaker 1 We wouldn't be up here talking about it. That's true.
But back to Nelly.

Speaker 1 So Nelly was up there.

Speaker 1 He was saying that

Speaker 1 basically...

Speaker 1 Drink champs, right? Yeah, drink champs.

Speaker 1 He was saying that basically his daughters are always allowed back home.

Speaker 1 No matter what, no matter how old they are, y'all can come back home. He was like, sons.

Speaker 1 You know, if something happened, hard times, whatever, you can come back home, couch for a couple days, but that's it.

Speaker 1 You got to get up and go get it after that.

Speaker 1 That's ridiculous. I will give my take after I hear you guys's take, so I know which take to give.

Speaker 1 It's one of those.

Speaker 1 Oh, I mean, I believe it should you should be like that for all your kids, period. A thousand percent.
Which way? They all can come back or they all can't. No, no, no, they all can come back.

Speaker 1 And I'm not with the kicking y'all out the house and

Speaker 1 that, that whole, all right, now you're 18. You got to go be your own person and go survive in this fucked up world.
I'm not with that. And if you out there

Speaker 1 20, 30, 40, I don't care, and you need to come back home, bring your ass back home.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 some kids should come home and some kids shouldn't.

Speaker 1 But it's not gendered for me. It's just like some kids I know need a kick in the ass.
Like I came home, I dropped out.

Speaker 1 When I dropped out of college, I came home and my mom gave me like December, January, February.

Speaker 1 She said, you got to get a job or get out. Then when I got the job, she was like, you got till June.
I got the job in February. By May, I was out.

Speaker 1 Because she knew that I needed that. She knew that if I stayed around and did nothing, I was going to keep doing nothing.
I got another sibling who was there until

Speaker 1 two years ago.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 About hate. No, that was definitely hate.
I got another sibling. I'm not doubtful.
Sibling.

Speaker 1 I got this other sibling, nigga, I'm related to

Speaker 1 that just

Speaker 1 two years ago.

Speaker 1 Grown ass nigga.

Speaker 1 All right, my bad. Fair enough.
I didn't mean to make it sound like that. But not to get all heavyweighted, but I remember before my dad died, I asked him,

Speaker 1 I had hired my brother to do something for me. My dad said,

Speaker 1 I always worried that he would be.

Speaker 1 Fuck you.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about what my dad said on his deathbed.

Speaker 1 Damn. But before I know what he said, I'm laughing.

Speaker 1 You said, yo, I hired my brother to do something. And then my dad, so I have this voice of the older black parents on their deathbed saying, You better take care.
You better take care, little

Speaker 1 daddy. That's basically what he said.

Speaker 1 What he's, you know, let me not say it because he might watch this at some point. But I'll just say,

Speaker 1 what my parents expressed was that they had concerns that some of us, if they didn't go the right way, could end up homeless, could end up out on the street.

Speaker 1 And so, I used to not understand that until I became a parent. Oh, you were on the wrong route.

Speaker 1 Me?

Speaker 1 A little bit.

Speaker 1 A little bit, but

Speaker 1 you got right.

Speaker 1 You got yourself together. You got to figure this shit out.
But, like, no, but the point is: like, some kids you know will be okay.

Speaker 1 Some kids you really worry about, like, this kid ain't going to be okay. Some kids are going to fail.
And you can see it from early from when you're like five. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. Dead ass.

Speaker 1 I'm just being a dick, but it's true. No, true.
It's true. I got some cousins and nephews I know.
I'm going to be taking care of it for a year. Dog,

Speaker 1 we had a little cousin. This is fucked up.
We should not say this about kids, but my whole family knew by maybe four years old

Speaker 1 he was going to jail.

Speaker 1 Right. And guess what? You can see that.
Guess what?

Speaker 1 He's in jail. That's my dad said about my brother.
Exactly. Like, we knew it.
They was building it for him.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And it's bad, but it's the truth.

Speaker 1 So, no, that's it. So as a parent, if you know, if you see that for your kid, and you're like, if I keep them in this house, at least they'll have food, clothing, and shelter.

Speaker 1 I'll be okay. And I said to my mom, you need to put him out.
If he's homeless, he's homeless. You know, at some point, he got to stay on his own, too.
She said, yeah, but if he doesn't,

Speaker 1 I don't want that guilt. She said, I want to give him around another 15, 20 years.
The fuck y'all wait, wait for me to die to put him on. You do that when I'm born.
I don't want that guilt.

Speaker 1 And it sounded fucked up, but then fuck Joe.

Speaker 1 I mean, yo, am I hearing this shit differently

Speaker 1 than the rest of y'all? What? Oh, because y'all just going along. I'm going to let him get the ball.

Speaker 1 What did I say? What I said? I said something fucked up. I mean,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to put him out parts. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If a nigga is 45 at home. Oh, shit.
I could hear how you was letting your dad know.

Speaker 1 Yo, I ain't going to hold you. It's creeping out.
I can hear exactly the tone in that talk with dad.

Speaker 1 You always fucking looking out for Frazier.

Speaker 1 If he homeless, then he homeless. Get him the fuck out of here, Pop.
Come on now.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you was clearly headed down like a doctor path. Like you was looking good.

Speaker 1 By that point. Come on.
But the whole point is, but if you know Fray, my thing is, I believe Frazier could be anything.

Speaker 1 But I think y'all coddling him by protecting him because y'all so scared he's not.

Speaker 1 And they're like, we know him better than you.

Speaker 1 And that's the thing I didn't learn until I got older is maybe I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about. Your parents know their kids too now.
Yeah, you know

Speaker 1 your kid ain't gonna make it. it, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Them kids are special.

Speaker 1 Or not.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Man, you know.

Speaker 1 Parents on their deathbeds, boy.

Speaker 1 And that's the other thing, yo. We ain't respected enough coming up, but parent rent,

Speaker 1 I was rebellious against that. Yeah.
Joe, give me a minute. Put something toward this rent now.

Speaker 1 A little $50, a little $70, something, a little hundreds, you grateful for whatever.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 And we wasn't paying for it. And we had a a problem.
Yeah, we wasn't paying that shit. That parent rent.
I paid my shit. Nah, I had a problem.
Parents, hey, pick a bill, nigga.

Speaker 1 Light bill, phone bill. You paying something.

Speaker 1 Holy shit, yo, this is too funny. Can your kids come home with you? Come home to you whenever they want? Yeah.
For as long as they want?

Speaker 1 I'm going to say yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay. Because parenthood is a lifetime job.

Speaker 1 Shit. I mean, especially, though, if you have a the if you have the means, it's not like you're living in a one-bedroom apartment anymore.
When talking about Nellie or Joe or something like that.

Speaker 1 If I was, yeah, I would just get my kid a crib.

Speaker 1 If I was,

Speaker 1 don't come living with me. Yeah,

Speaker 1 what's the other option? You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I was just, I was with some family, um,

Speaker 1 and I was asking about some cousins that I haven't seen in a long time.

Speaker 1 Like, 20, somebody, I'm like, yo, what's up with such and such? And they was like, yo, man, um,

Speaker 1 yeah, he over on such and such doing, he getting high now, and he doing this. And it's like, not saying you could prevent it but if you could at least try

Speaker 1 and his parents they just washed their hands with him and now he just out here

Speaker 1 so nah

Speaker 1 i i would i would go through everything before i would try everything before that yeah i don't care if it was if i had a studio if i'm living in the studio apartment and he need all right nigga you pick us out we're gonna figure it out figure it out i'm with that i just feel like sometimes The thing you think is going to make them better is, I'm saying do whatever will make your kid better, but sometimes we think bringing them in does that.

Speaker 1 And it enables us.

Speaker 1 that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Like, like so, when Pop left the house and you and your brother's name, like you kept it like that, right? You didn't go, you didn't go take your homeless brother to court.

Speaker 1 So, they only left it in two of the three.

Speaker 1 There's three of us that they both have, and they left it in two of our names.

Speaker 1 Frazier didn't get it. They knew his name.

Speaker 1 They knew. They knew.
They iced him out the game. Damn, Fraze.
I gave him his money, though.

Speaker 1 Good for you.

Speaker 1 Like I said, I don't do people dirty, but some kick rock shit, right?

Speaker 1 Hey, we don't never want to see you again.

Speaker 1 Not a daddy go.

Speaker 1 I better make it last. Don't you show your ass up here? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Mark, were you worried that he was going to spend it immediately?

Speaker 1 Let me say this. I'm sorry.
I didn't give it to him. I have it.
He's in prison, so I can't give it to him, but it's in a

Speaker 1 dude. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm.

Speaker 1 I think that's commendable. Mark, yes.

Speaker 1 I got your money, but I'm going to hold on to it. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 I'm going to hold it right here, my nigga. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Wait, do you even mail it to me? Your vocabulary is too extensive

Speaker 1 to be stuck on the words you're using. I put money in his books every week and I don't take it out of the money.
I don't take my books. I was about to ask

Speaker 2 if you take his books money out of his account.

Speaker 1 I could, but I don't. Mel, can you stop asking serious questions right now, please?

Speaker 1 We ain't trying to joke.

Speaker 2 I'm there.

Speaker 1 How much money for those books? The max you can do every three days is 300. So I do like 500 a week.

Speaker 1 So you don't do the max? max? No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Nope. But I also send him sneakers.
I'm like, he needs no sneakers. Hey, brother.

Speaker 1 I sent him sneakers. I sent him books.
Hey, I wasn't. Just bought him a TV.
I wasn't around for y'all to bring him in. I don't know.

Speaker 1 You should handle them how you want to handle them. Put a lot of money on them books, man.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Yo, you niggas start getting entitled, though, man.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 My fucking

Speaker 1 older brother

Speaker 1 views money differently than me and always has.

Speaker 1 So my mom knows that. It's a thing.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm mad, generous.

Speaker 1 I don't care. Oh, here, card, money, take whatever.
Show it off my bag. Yeah, that ain't my brother.

Speaker 1 He's sweet.

Speaker 1 So if you need something done,

Speaker 1 just show up. He's sweet in action.
Yeah, in action, he does all the shit that I don't do. So she got a good balance.
Good, good. But in terms of money,

Speaker 1 Scrooge,

Speaker 1 he was keeping it. And he keeps getting raises too.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 And my mom keep getting set up. Hey.

Speaker 1 Now that you got that raised.

Speaker 1 He downplayed the heart.

Speaker 1 He's got neat news. No, he's adamant.

Speaker 1 You don't downplay it? No, not at all.

Speaker 1 He said, oh, yeah, now I got to call my mom. Because now I'm talking behind her back.
Hell no, you don't downplay it.

Speaker 1 I've seen that one. No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I've seen that one. The glasses work just fine.

Speaker 1 Staying closer.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Staying closer.

Speaker 1 No, that's funny. That's fucked up, though.

Speaker 1 Let me see if she answers real quick. Because I'll get in trouble with talking about my family behind her back.
And she listened to the bar.

Speaker 1 Hello. Hey, Ma, I'm on air.

Speaker 1 Oh, huh?

Speaker 1 I'm telling them about how Veron is stingy with money and I'm not.

Speaker 1 Veron said

Speaker 4 that that's how he was 20 years ago.

Speaker 1 Veron said what?

Speaker 4 He's not stingy, he used to be 20 years ago.

Speaker 1 Okay, but we know the truth.

Speaker 1 I know, but

Speaker 4 we're looking at

Speaker 4 a different lens.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, is she doing that shit?

Speaker 1 Don't protect him, right?

Speaker 1 Don't protect him if we on here, Marx.

Speaker 1 Don't protect him.

Speaker 4 I have two sons that I I love.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 Hey, I'm going to hang up and tell the truth.

Speaker 4 I have two sons that I love immensely, and my son says he used to be cheap 20 years ago.

Speaker 1 All right, do you think he's cheap?

Speaker 4 I'll take the fifth.

Speaker 1 That's all we need to do. Okay, but we're different in that regard.

Speaker 4 Hallelujah. Thank you, God.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. All right, fine.
My mom got me back on the right route, so I ain't going to keep my brother back in. All right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 All right, bye.

Speaker 1 Later it's going to be.

Speaker 1 So anyway, it was time for my mom.

Speaker 1 It was time for my mom to get some of her affairs in order.

Speaker 1 I said, so you're going to trust him with any money after you go?

Speaker 1 And she said she loves us both and that she loves us both. Got it.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you got to talk to your parents. Had a truth conversation.
You really do. Boy.

Speaker 1 Boy, oh boy. Yo.
Yo, Mark let Frazier have it.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. Frazier, you ain't have a chance.
Frazier deserved it.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 Frazier didn't have a shot in hell.

Speaker 1 Good. Oh my God, yo.

Speaker 1 God.

Speaker 1 Ah, damn. Anyways, all right, what else? What else is funny, not funny, important, unimportant?

Speaker 1 I can't believe you tried to throw postpartum on Nelly Guitardo.

Speaker 1 I mean... She did that postpartum.
That's true. That just don't address what we were saying.
That's the whole story. Yeah, that's all.
That's all. It kind of does, though, a little bit.
No, it don't.

Speaker 1 And that's the problem. When a guy is saying this person is off her marbles, that's wrong for y'all to assume we're saying that because she's on postpartum.
No, we recognize the postpartum.

Speaker 2 No, I think that there was not a recognition of her being postpartum. It was just somebody just calling her fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, there might be a legitimate reason for it, like a chemical imbalance.

Speaker 1 So she's crazy.

Speaker 1 So you saying what the fuck I'm saying? I am not.

Speaker 1 I am not. Do y'all care about Mark wasn't here for our LeBron, Stephen A conversation that we had, but then footage came out of LeBron keykeeing with Richard Jefferson after

Speaker 1 the event,

Speaker 1 where he was basically like

Speaker 1 yeah Stephen A getting up there and saying

Speaker 1 LeBron I'm talking to you as a father was the last straw for me so that changed a lot for me I was about to say when we were having a conversation I felt like some people really weren't all the way aware of everything Stephen A has been saying once you once yeah that changed a lot for me that that as a father part because now you're not speaking on him

Speaker 1 You're not even speaking on Bronnie as an athlete. You're not critiquing him as an athlete.
You're critiquing him as my son and my parenting.

Speaker 1 Like, he was like, I'm asking you as a father to not allow him to play. And I think that's LeBron was nice.
Yeah, in that sense.

Speaker 1 He was nice. I remember the morning where that episode of First Take aired.
I was getting dressed, I want to say maybe for work even.

Speaker 1 And when Stephen A got into that, and I get content creation and building suspense, but he did too great of a job at it for what led. I mean, for what followed.
He was like, LeBron, as a father, man,

Speaker 1 I got kids,

Speaker 1 as a dad, honestly, it's time to.

Speaker 1 And I stopped and looked at the TV like, hey, that was heavy for whatever basketball conversation you have coming right now. It's a lot.
Yeah, you can't do that. LeBron was less.

Speaker 1 Can't do that shit. So

Speaker 1 I agree that LeBron had every right to confront Stephen A.

Speaker 1 And I didn't want Stephen A to criticize Bronnie on the father-son tip. You can just criticize him as a basketball player in the way every other GM and coach has, who has that position.

Speaker 1 That's the side that I was on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do we never, though, say to somebody, hey, you're making a bad choice as a parent? I mean,

Speaker 1 for example, when LeVar Ball, and he turned out to be right, but when LeVar Ball took Lamello out of high school and put him overseas, lots of people said, that's unfair.

Speaker 1 You're trying to make your kid a pro instead of focusing on his education. Are we allowed to say that?

Speaker 1 Are we allowed to tell parents who are in the public parenting that they're making bad choices as parents? No. Ever.

Speaker 1 You can't.

Speaker 1 Who are you to say that that's a bad choice?

Speaker 1 I mean, you have to say that

Speaker 1 when

Speaker 1 all arrows point to it being a bad choice. Like, that was the thing about Stephen A.
to LeBron. You saying, as a father, with all of this buildup to somebody who's been

Speaker 1 the example, who's been in his kid's life his entire life. The kid ain't out there robbing and carjacking and stealing.
You're talking about a kid who's in the NBA, who's that, who just almost died.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in college with the hard shit.

Speaker 1 Like, that ain't. Don't tell me as a father.
Don't tell me what to do as a dad. I'm the only dad that's ever been in this position in the entire history of the league.
Facts.

Speaker 1 You can't talk to me about that. Now,

Speaker 1 if the decision is bad, even with the LeBar Ballshit, like my son is going to play overseas, he's going to forego his college, yada, yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're telling me something is going wrong there, that's an opinion.

Speaker 1 It's not rooted in, again, my son is a murderer, my son is stabbing people, my son is drugged out, my son has a gambling problem, my son is, yeah,

Speaker 1 and there's too many times where this has come up with Stephen A specifically. Like, you mentioned LeVar Ball, we mentioned fucking LeBron.
There was another instance where this happened.

Speaker 1 I have to jog my memory. But

Speaker 1 even with the LeVar ball shit,

Speaker 1 I don't care. Can't nobody say

Speaker 1 you're making a bad decision as a parent. You can't tell him that.

Speaker 1 That's my thing. You can't tell me as a parent,

Speaker 1 you're doing this wrong. I got two and a possible in the league.
Disagree with that part, but I got two and a possible in the league. And the possible as a record deal.
So

Speaker 1 we should trust his judgment at this point. But what I'm saying is, and again, I fully agree with LeBron in what he did, and I fully disagree with Stephen A.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying there are moments where I don't accept the rule that we just should never criticize people's parenting. That's all I'm saying.
Because I think there are times where we should

Speaker 1 criticize somebody. But

Speaker 2 give an example of a time where it's applicable to

Speaker 2 people.

Speaker 1 We black people. So every other day in the wintertime, we see

Speaker 1 that. We do that every put a coat on that baby.
It's too cold for that baby to be out here without a coat. That is

Speaker 1 parental criticism. A valid stage parents, we tend to call them stage moms, but really stage parents often exploit their kids, right? They often try to live through.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And we criticize the shit out of that.

Speaker 1 And I don't think that's unfair or unreasonable, too. But you can't tell them you're making a bad decision.

Speaker 2 But the criticism in that. That's all.

Speaker 1 You could just be like, yo, you're pushing your, you might be pushing that kid too hard. You might be doing this.
How do you know what you're talking about?

Speaker 1 That's the same thing. No, it's not.
You say you might be telling them

Speaker 1 you're making a bad decision. Now, what if

Speaker 1 people could have told Joe Jackson he was making a bad decision pushing the Jacksons?

Speaker 1 And then the kids turn out to be that, was it a bad decision? You see what I'm saying? You can't tell nobody you are making a bad decision.

Speaker 1 But what if I said beating the shit out of Tito to make him play the guitar better was bad parenting or bad choice? Would that be okay for me to say? No, you can't tell him that.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that's what I'm saying. That's my thing.

Speaker 1 You can't tell somebody

Speaker 1 you're making a bad decision.

Speaker 1 This is bad parenting. You shouldn't tell somebody that.
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 Unless all arrows point to, like if we got to get dyfus now and child protective services involved tito definitely wanted dyfus but i'll give you i'll give you i'll give you one and rest in peace the the the father son duo that that took um pnb rock out of here rest in peace now you could say to that dad bringing your son on that is a bad like you ruined both of their both of you you've ruined three lives well more lives

Speaker 1 you've ruined a lot of lives rest in peace that's an instance where and that's extreme but that's an instance where you can say you're doing you did a bad you made a bad decision bad parenting etc hey to not go as extreme as ice is going the whole conversation when nick cannon kept popping him out was you're bad you're bad parenting that's bad that's bad fatherhood there's no way you can be in all of these places at once and y'all that was the entire conversation are we allowed to say that is that wrong well what i told because i told nick to his face i said you're being selfish i still didn't say you're being a bad parent That just feels semantic.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, that's not a bad thing.

Speaker 1 Bad parenting. A bad parent is a different level of accusatory than selfish.
So So if I say to Nick, right,

Speaker 1 as a father, you should want, just to use Stephen A's language, as a father, you shouldn't want to have 10 kids in 10 places because you can't be present for all of them. That's in bad taste.
Barry.

Speaker 1 That's in bad taste. Who are you to say what I should and shouldn't want as a father? And who are you to say, because he got enough money?

Speaker 1 Who are you to say that I don't build a compound with all of us living here? You don't know what our living situation is. Yeah, I'm just saying hypothetical.
I'm not criticizing that.

Speaker 1 But that's why you can't make that assessment. And this is bad parenting.

Speaker 1 and that's why it feels like a slippery slope because while i agree with the lebron stephen a criticisms i think stephen a went too far it's not necessary because again the worst case scenario is he's a bad nba player or whatever right that's not a that's not a bad outcome that's an outcome that 99.9 world will never get you can't criticize them for that i get that But the other extreme, when we talk about calling Dyfus or, you know, calling child services on somebody, that's the extreme where we all agree you can criticize that.

Speaker 1 But in the middle is a bunch of choices that I might think are unethical, like pulling a kid out of school or depriving kids of their social experiences, or not letting it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 These are all things that I might say are bad and are signs of bad parenting. So I'm with you.

Speaker 1 I'm hearing what you're saying loud and clear, and it's like, I probably wouldn't use that language of bad parenting because it sounds accusatory, but we do all judge people's parents.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, Stephen Ain't the first nigga to judge somebody's parents. Oh, no, you could judge it, but we all, and that's by your own personality.

Speaker 1 Judge it and take it on TV and act like you're having a heart-to-heart, man-to-man, dad-to-dad conversation when, like you said, the worst-case scenario is you're a bad NBA player. Right, stop it.

Speaker 1 That's it. I agree with that.
Yeah, that part I agree 100%. I got my son with a guaranteed contract, making his own money, doing what I'm assuming he loves to do

Speaker 1 on my team. We play together.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where's the bad parenting in that? I don't think that's bad parenting. Even if I don't agree with the choice, and I don't listen to the choice,

Speaker 1 I don't think it's bad parenting.

Speaker 1 I think if I'm going to defer to somebody's expertise in this, I'm going to defer to LeBron's. You know what I mean? Like, he's one of the GOATs.
Like, fuck it.

Speaker 1 He deserves the opportunity to be wrong about it.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just don't like telling people y'all are bad parents. Fair.
Not with it.

Speaker 1 Especially when your private life is so private.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, Stephen A. has made it a point to keep his private life extremely private.
It's a good one. We don't see his kids.
We don't know about his kids. We don't hear about his kids.

Speaker 1 We don't hear about his dating. We don't know nothing about none of that.

Speaker 1 So don't just, because you hang your hat on that, now point all of the guns at the guy who's in the public doing it a certain way.

Speaker 1 it's just not and and i didn't like uh stephen a's response to the the lebron's uh richard jefferson conversation which was which was oh so it was it was about you it wasn't about the kid no

Speaker 1 no buddy it's still about the kid he was saying i'm uh he had a problem with you saying oh you uh i'm speaking to you as a father because you're a father to who everything after that was about the kid like i just don't like how stephen a is handling this specific topic but i i'll shut up until he goes on Gilbert to talk about it because I'm sure they'll talk about it over there.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. He's doing good with Arena soon.
Shout out to him. Oh, okay.
Today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, can't wait to see. Can't wait to see.

Speaker 1 What else is going on?

Speaker 1 Garrett Cole is getting Tommy John surgery. If you're a Yankees fan,

Speaker 1 not great. That's crazy.
The season's over.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to go that far. I'm being an asshole yet.
I'm not going to go that far.

Speaker 1 I'm just wishing the worst. On the Yankees? I want him to be healthy.
I want the Yankees to lose. Got it.

Speaker 1 Why do you want the Yankees? It's just all New York teams, son, for you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 At least you're consistent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I hate with all of them.
Damn.

Speaker 1 I'll take the Yankees over the Mets, but I hate all of them.

Speaker 1 And you take any Yankee contract over poor George contract?

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 That was low. Low plays.
Yeah, reverse card. Reverse card.
That was low. Just saying.
Yeah. Just saying.
I'm over all. I want them to blow that whole team up at this point.
Yep. That's where I'm at.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's exactly where I'm at with it. Justin Fields to the Jets.
Anything, anything, anything? I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 I wanted him to have the shot in Pittsburgh. I don't think he got a fair shake.

Speaker 1 He didn't.

Speaker 1 And I really want, especially with us getting DK over there. Now you got Pickens, DK.
You still got Fire Move.

Speaker 1 You have some options.

Speaker 1 I would have liked to have seen how he would

Speaker 1 have performed. given a shot with the whole the whole season.
So I didn't like it. But I hope he balls out with the Jets.
Like,

Speaker 1 and his contract, like, his agent did that. I actually don't like him going to the Jets because I like him.
And I feel like the Jets is a black hole for quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 When was the last time we saw a good Jets quarterback situation?

Speaker 1 Damn. Damn.

Speaker 1 I think that's overhyped a little bit. Maybe I understand it.
Maybe.

Speaker 1 But we watched Matt Liner have a blast for the Jets. That was 20 years.

Speaker 1 It was a while ago.

Speaker 1 20 years. It's a long time.
Mark Sanchez.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's who I meant. I said Matt Leinard.
I meant Mark Sanchez. I'm sorry.
But that's still 20 years ago. Yeah, 20 years ago.

Speaker 1 I hope he balls out still. Listen, Justin Fields, if you give him a starting spot on a team, he's going to do something.
I can't speak for the team's results.

Speaker 1 With a system that's trying to put him in position to succeed. Yeah, yeah, he'll be fine.
Because that wasn't the case in Chicago. He'll be fine.

Speaker 1 I'd seen Mike Kaiser win five weeks in a a row with starting Justin Fields and fantasy, picking him off the waiters.

Speaker 1 He's gotten

Speaker 1 a bad rep in the league. He's much better than being a backup quarterback and all the shit that he's the positions he's been in.
Yeah, it's true. I'm over here watching free agency news.

Speaker 1 I'm just waiting for it to happen. You know what's coming.
Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers. Although, I could see him.

Speaker 1 I also could see him going to the Vikings. You know, the funny shit, though? I see that too.
The Vikings just readed their entire offensive line. You're not doing that for J.J.

Speaker 1 McCarthy, who might be good, but they might really like him. They might.
Like, really like him. They might.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of investment for,

Speaker 1 especially for a team that's been competitive for the last three or four years. Their plan was J.J.
McCarthy last year. It was.

Speaker 1 So they clearly saw something that said, hey, we're ready to go with him, and we don't think we'll lose all these games with a rookie quarterback. But they had

Speaker 1 backup players. And they let Sam Darnold know pretty much all season long, hey, we're not bringing you back.
Right.

Speaker 1 We're not paying you. You're 10 and 1.

Speaker 1 Jesus.

Speaker 1 But we're not bringing you back. That says that there's some faith in the young quarterback back there.
And not for nothing, that draft probably will go down as one of the greatest quarterback drafts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been hearing this QB. QB heavy.
Special, yeah. I see y'all got rid of Daniel Jones.
Yeah, he's an indie. We've been got rid of Daniel Jones.
Yeah, that's facts. Yeah, he wasn't.

Speaker 1 He was on the back of the business. He wasn't on the job.
Oh, yeah, he was on the bike.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Fuck.
I'm trying to make jokes on you. We should have did that before to say Gwan.

Speaker 1 That's what I was talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's cool. Pardon.
Yeah, whoopsie. No, but the funny shit is, I'm, um,

Speaker 1 as much as I say I hate it, I can see the Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers shit working in Pittsburgh. It would absolutely work.
Same, by the way. Is he left?

Speaker 1 What you mean?

Speaker 1 Skill-wise. He still balled out last year at times.
Okay. I think he was.
I really asked because I don't know. Yo, the Jets won games last year.
Yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 And they lost a lot of games by every coin margin.

Speaker 1 every possession. Yeah.
Okay. So it ain't as bad as they make it out to be.
I mean, it probably was in the building and for the organization. No, the building was an absolute mess.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was that was coaches, their assistants, their GMs, everything in mid-season.

Speaker 1 But see, I don't think that the Steelers will let Aaron Rodgers have that power that the Jets and the Packers gave him. Different brand organizations.
That's a family. That's not flying over.

Speaker 1 That ain't not going to work over here. Yeah, yeah.
It's not going to fly over here. That's why I think it's.

Speaker 1 Nor will Pickens and Metcalf let him come over there and just get to talk in any type of way. Yeah, that's what's gonna be interesting.
That's the movie.

Speaker 1 Metcalf and Pickens on the same team all season long. Yep.

Speaker 1 Book it. I might drive.
I might drive to Pittsburgh. I might go to a game.
So somebody put a meme up, and it was like

Speaker 1 the Steelers huddle. Okay, we're running a halfback dive.
And then it says, Pickens and Metcalf down the field. They got both of them fighting, beating the shit out of the defenders.

Speaker 1 It's like, dog, this is going to be,

Speaker 1 if it worked, it works, it's gonna be great, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm just waiting for the news, though, man, because I said if Aaron Rodgers comes, I'm going to the commanders. Okay, commanders been making some moves, too.

Speaker 1 They made some nice moves. Debo, they got Laramie Tunsel from the uh Texans yesterday, and your cousin's the offensive coach, right?

Speaker 1 Y'all, offensive line coach, yeah, he's um, assistant, assistant coach, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 they just got a start, yeah, pause, but pause, but yeah, shout out to Cos, they they gunning for y'all, yeah, I know, I know, that's what I hear. You guys have made a trade today, too, didn't they?

Speaker 1 Eagles, yeah, they did. CJ Gardner, Johnson.

Speaker 1 Eagles already have, I think I said six players have already left for the week. We got Slay.
Yeah, and Milton went to New England.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're talking football. Xavier Worthy?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is a mess. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This one's a little.

Speaker 1 This kind of follows the

Speaker 1 accusation. Yeah, false accusation.
It does. Chain from earlier.
So for those who don't know,

Speaker 1 I guess, well, the way the news broke was Xavier Worthy was arrested. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 For a DV accusation. Yes, excuse me, for DV.

Speaker 1 And then as more information came out,

Speaker 1 it wasn't him that was

Speaker 1 the aggressive. Yes, thank you.
That's the word. The victim.
He was the victim. Right.

Speaker 1 Okay, and. And the allegation was that the argument started because he broke up with her because she was cheating, right? Correct.

Speaker 1 She caught him cheating, and then he started attacking him allegedly. This is all alleged.

Speaker 1 He called the cops, ignored.

Speaker 1 She called the cops, he gets arrested.

Speaker 1 It's a nasty situation.

Speaker 1 How do we feel about that one?

Speaker 1 Chiefs was probably disappointed.

Speaker 1 Ain't normally how they do business. Andy Reed was pissed.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The chief said, wait, you were the victim? You cut.

Speaker 1 Get the hell out of here.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit, dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was

Speaker 1 a toxic little, that's a toxic little crew. Yeah, they don't care.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's my man name that crashed the porsche and walked away like Superman? Rashid Rice.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Rashi Rice.
Tyreek had his fair share of incidents.

Speaker 1 They didn't care. Andy Reed.

Speaker 1 Andy Reed. Yeah.
Shit, they cut Kareem Hunt and brought him back.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, man. Can you play? Right.
Can you get us a ring, my nigga? That's all we care about. We'll clean up the other shit.

Speaker 1 Y'all are going to feel the Mahomes' wrath next season, buddy, for this loss.

Speaker 1 You think so? Yes. For this Super Bowl loss? Yes.

Speaker 2 I think everybody can get it.

Speaker 1 We cut ass all regular season and then was made to look like that in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 No, they're too arrogant for that. They're not letting that ride.
No way.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's say better team, though. It's going to be tough.

Speaker 1 I agree with you. Yeah.
I'm just talking about what the arrogance is going to do. I mean, he might have a chip on the show today.

Speaker 1 That's the last nigga you wanted to have a chip on the show with. That's true.
He's a monster.

Speaker 1 All right, we do have a part of the show. Someone named Daniel needs our help.
What's up, Daniel? What's up? Daniel says,

Speaker 1 So, I'm a new father.

Speaker 2 Congratulations.

Speaker 1 Word. Don't get in the boat.

Speaker 1 My wife and I gave birth to our beautiful son named DJ.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 At times, my wife and I go back and forth about our parenting skills. She says I'm being too hard on him because I let him cry sometimes.

Speaker 1 He likes to fight his sleep, and he's really attached to his mother to the point that I feel a certain way.

Speaker 1 The reason I'm not home as much is because I work two jobs to support my family at the moment. My wife and I have started clashing about how I should be home more and be a better father.

Speaker 1 Like, if I stay home, we won't have a crib to live in. So, JBP,

Speaker 1 don't put pressure on us, nigga. Can you please help me on how I can better communicate with my wife about being a better father and husband?

Speaker 1 Well, show her the bills.

Speaker 1 Nothing better to help with that than an eviction notice. Yeah, show her the bills.
Lay them out. Hey, let them niggas come tape that little note to your door.
Right there. That'll get it done.

Speaker 1 Hey, y'all got 12 days to be the fuck out of here. Let her walk in the house and

Speaker 1 the heat switch. Yeah, the lights off.

Speaker 1 If he's working two jobs to support the household and you want him home more, then he can't work. Like, it's just simple math.

Speaker 1 Because there's the other option, but it's going to sound like an asshole if I say it. Go ahead.
Go get a job.

Speaker 1 Okay. Go.
Kids are a job.

Speaker 1 Domestic labor is labor. I'm not saying it is.
I'm not saying it not. Mr.
Todd's job.

Speaker 1 If you want me home more

Speaker 1 and I'm out working

Speaker 1 to get the financials to keep us afloat, take some of that burden off me then. I can be home more.

Speaker 1 My only problem with what he's saying is, and you've got to talk a lot of dads off this ledge, is

Speaker 1 the child having an attachment to the mom shouldn't be

Speaker 1 an impediment on

Speaker 1 your fathering and your fatherhood. Like moms play a role.
It's a role that dad can't play, won't play, it's not possible. And dad plays a role.
Y'all both have to have a role. That's what I feel.

Speaker 1 I feel like that's something that you want to encourage.

Speaker 1 It's not something you should look at with spite or resentment. Because

Speaker 1 if you get to the bottom of what your issue is, which is, hey, I'm not home, I'm paying these bills, trying to be the best dad I could be, then that kind of aligns with the child having a pretty good bond with mom.

Speaker 1 Right. So, I don't want you to contradict your own point here in this.

Speaker 1 Like, you want that. That's fire.
No matter what me and my kids' moms ever went through, I'll use my oldest because my youngest is my youngest, but no matter what we was going through, like,

Speaker 1 you want, I wanted him to love mom. Absolutely.
Speak highly of mom. Know that she'll be there.

Speaker 1 And how you look at mom is how you're going to look at women.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 You want that relationship. You want your kid to have a healthy respect of women and mom.

Speaker 2 He mentions that she's got a problem with how much he lets their son cry and then mentions sleep training. I don't know this.
Is there a general rule of thumb when it comes to sleep training? Yes.

Speaker 2 And letting them cry it out versus.

Speaker 1 I would like to know how old the child is because that's important here.

Speaker 1 They say 10 months old.

Speaker 1 That's my boat. That's just the boat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got the feeling.

Speaker 2 You get the feeling that the child is relatively older.

Speaker 1 My new father. That's all he said.
My wife and I converged. They could be bunny.

Speaker 1 He doesn't say at age. I don't know.
Yeah, he don't say that. This is what I say.
I mean,

Speaker 1 cry it out, which is a fight that parents have all the time.

Speaker 1 I've had that argument with my wife, too. You know what I mean? It's like, all right, come on.
Cry it out, according to studies, doesn't work, right? Like, you're not supposed to cry it out.

Speaker 1 It also sends a message to kids that when they're emotionally vulnerable, no one's going to be there for them.

Speaker 1 They will stop crying at some point, but the question is, what does it do to them long-term emotions?

Speaker 1 Not at some point.

Speaker 1 When I go put this oatmeal,

Speaker 1 when I start mixing the food and the milk together,

Speaker 1 it's going to put this noise. Man, that's the other side.

Speaker 1 That's the other side. Like, that cry it out shit.
Because I used to have that same argument. Yeah.
The cry it out,

Speaker 1 I still got to sleep. So, no,

Speaker 1 because she was, my baby mom was more of a, yo, you got to let her got to let her cry a little bit. We can't just pick her up, can't put her in the bed with you.

Speaker 1 I'm like, dog, I hear all that that sounds good, but I got to be up at six. Yeah, so

Speaker 1 whatever puts her to sleep, I'm doing it because I have to, and my job was: if I fall asleep behind the wheel, it's gonna be some people dying, right? So, see, that's where some patriarchy

Speaker 1 see, we don't have to talk about topics where patriarchy comes in handy. Like, for Lex, it was understood when he started crying, you get up.

Speaker 1 You wasn't getting up?

Speaker 1 No, I had to be to work at six. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I had to be to work at six in the morning. I got it.

Speaker 1 It's not a shared responsibility at that point.

Speaker 1 Because you have to. I have mine.
I got to get this rest. When he started crying, get your ass up.
And when you need an emergency break, that's what I'll be for you.

Speaker 1 But this is not something that will be a shared responsibility for me.

Speaker 1 Whatever people's house, I don't judge people's house.

Speaker 1 For me, I still got up. Like, I had to get up at 6 6 a.m.
7 a.m. I still got, so I was in charge of the overnight shift.

Speaker 1 And still did phrase like that.

Speaker 1 You got a hardener somewhere. Just not for phrase.
Just not for phrase.

Speaker 1 But see, Mark, again, it's different. Like, I'm just using my example.
I'm driving. Yeah, no, so I can't be behind the wheel sleepy.
Yeah. That's every situation.
So it's very, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I think having the conversation about the parenting is always going to be.

Speaker 1 There's one parent that wants to be tougher, and there's one parent that wants to be lighter, and you have to figure that out. It has to be a middle.

Speaker 2 otherwise it's going to be uh it's going to get ugly and i'm going to start to resent it i'm also wondering if the reason why he's letting his child cry it out is because it's a boy child i'm just wondering if that's like an a factor that might be playing into this might be sometimes sometimes it plays a role in people's minds put some gender into it

Speaker 2 no i mean like

Speaker 2 yeah i mean like it goes back to the whole nelly thing of you know my daughters can come home and stay for as long as they want but my sons that you know

Speaker 2 tick tock motherfucker you got to get up and go get it exactly and it's just like i think that that lends to what toxic masculinity actually is, and not letting male children or like understanding that you need, your male children need comfort, you know, and don't always need to be, you know, like treated harshly because they're a man.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Or two, right, or three or four or one.

Speaker 2 No, just, but just in, just in general.

Speaker 1 No, I agree.

Speaker 1 I agree. Absolutely.
Like, my son is at a stage right now where he's whining a lot.

Speaker 1 He's a toddler, so he does toddler shit. And I find it so fucking annoying.
Like, when he turns his back, I'm like, shut the fuck up. Like, whatever he's not looking at, because I'd be so frustrated.

Speaker 1 Like, I'd be really frustrated. But he does this whining thing.
And I suspect that if he were a girl,

Speaker 1 you'd have much more patience. It would still irritate the shit out of him because I hate winers in general.
I hate in life I hate winers. But the fact that it's a boy, I know it.

Speaker 1 There's a part of me that is like, stop bitching. And I got to constantly work through that.
I don't say that to him. But I'll be thinking it sometimes.
And I know it's like he's two. It's not gender.

Speaker 1 It shouldn't be any of that, but I still have to work through that. And so that's some of the stuff you got to think about.
And again, work through in yourself. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 because i know with my daughter she's five and that's all she does is whine wine wine whine my girls three kids and our kids are all in order five six seven eight

Speaker 1 they don't whine they chill as it's just my daughter that does this all for every little thing and i'm so

Speaker 1 i hear why i get up and run because because it's right it's my baby girl and if that was she'd be like yo you you you she know you gonna do it the kids will be in the garage with the little tv

Speaker 1 show me what the fuck they got going.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's it. They're gonna get their own space somewhere.
All the way over there. Hey, these little babies want to cry.
We're gonna

Speaker 1 ignore the age restrictions on the lullaby speaker.

Speaker 1 We're not gonna get the one that's for infants to two.

Speaker 1 We're getting the five-year-old one. That nigga used to cry.
Turn the speaker up.

Speaker 1 Turn up that lullaby. Lullaby loud as hell.
And go right back to bed. Yeah.
What else? Some little tricks to get the baby to go back to bed. Benadryl.

Speaker 1 That's bad parenting.

Speaker 1 Them talks don't be ad about parents be drugging the kids. I know people to do brandy, whiskey, all that shit.
Yeah. Yeah, when the kid's teething,

Speaker 1 right on the gums.

Speaker 1 Right on the gums. Let's get that little

Speaker 1 McAllen.

Speaker 1 McAllen 25. She looked up at the bush.

Speaker 1 I know where to fix this. Come here.

Speaker 1 Take this Louis the 13th.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Hey, hopefully, we were able to help you, my brother. Yeah, man.
Oh, man. But had that talk with you, with your whiz, man.

Speaker 1 Had that talk. Nothing

Speaker 1 beats a problem like communication. Have healthy communication.
That's true, that's really it. Oh, and with that said,

Speaker 1 I am going with

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Speaker 1 She looked like there ain't no one left on this fucking hurt.

Speaker 1 So if she had put me up, I'm a super shit. She said, Snap me up, and slow me up.

Speaker 1 That is brand new music, brand new music from KWN featuring Kaylani.

Speaker 1 That record is called Worst Behavior, available in your phone and on DSPs right this very second.

Speaker 1 That's all. That was good shit.

Speaker 1 Before I get to my sleeper,

Speaker 1 did y'all hear that R. Kelly remixed Chris Brown's residuals? Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, cool. I was too pussy to play it on the main.
We didn't get to it on patreon. But I got to say for the Patreon.
Got it. Say less.
He really just wanted to know where his money at.

Speaker 1 He wanted to know where his residuals at. Yeah, he ain't talking to no girl.
He's talking to labels. Where my shit at? Where my shit?

Speaker 1 Who got my monies? Somebody making money off my catalog. Where is it?

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you know, they ain't giving you.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 We'll save it.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 Jaquez and Dejlof put part two of their fucking friends on mixtape out. Okay.
Eight years, I think, since the last one. Okay.
So My Sleeper is

Speaker 1 actually a part two of one of the better songs on the the first one, which is called You Still Belong to Somebody Else.

Speaker 1 I want to invite some stripper and just cut up, but

Speaker 1 you belong to somebody else.

Speaker 1 You still belong to somebody else. That's the name of this one.

Speaker 1 Somebody else

Speaker 1 What you been up to for the last couple years?

Speaker 1 Come on,

Speaker 1 shit

Speaker 1 Alright

Speaker 1 It's in my world

Speaker 1 What's going on in your world?

Speaker 1 Can you tell me what's going on in your world?

Speaker 1 So nice be like

Speaker 1 Feeling good

Speaker 1 I'm still picturing dance with only us involved Remember long nights I pulled up one call.

Speaker 1 Remember when I told myself I wouldn't get involved?

Speaker 1 I still

Speaker 1 call your phone.

Speaker 1 Pick up the fall, you see the callin'.

Speaker 1 Pick up calling you. I still, I still

Speaker 1 waiting by the phone when you read it.

Speaker 1 I still got your number, still texting.

Speaker 1 It's been years, you got still my distraction.

Speaker 1 It's been years, I still find you attractive. Tell me that you win, tell them that you quit.
Don't care about your chicks, I'm still in a mix. And I wanna tell you how I felt.

Speaker 1 Still, you belong to somebody else.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Somebody else,

Speaker 1 somebody else.

Speaker 1 You belong,

Speaker 1 you belong.

Speaker 1 to somebody else

Speaker 1 to somebody else

Speaker 1 belonging to somebody else

Speaker 1 to somebody else,

Speaker 1 somebody else, somebody else. I ain't moving in the

Speaker 1 body.

Speaker 1 I'm not in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 Where are you doing with these girls?

Speaker 1 You still with your girl?

Speaker 1 See what that'd be like. And that was

Speaker 1 You Still Belong with Somebody Else off of Fucker Friend Zone 2, Jaquez and Deja Loaf. Yo, it's some shit on that mixtape, though.
Yeah. I'm sure.
It is some shit on there.

Speaker 1 That song was absolutely fire. Imagine how it sounded with some verses.

Speaker 1 You know, that's the new shit today. They wrote the hook.
That's good. That's good.

Speaker 1 He gave him a verse and got up out of there. You went at the strip club tonight.

Speaker 1 Nah, they get some shit on A tape, though. Salute to them.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm going to go to my guy, Lil Vic, with 38 Special and Fashion and RJ Payne. This is Santeria.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 Huh?

Speaker 1 Huh.

Speaker 1 Now, if I see that pain on my daughter's face, my heart will break instantly. My son and my daughter seen they father make history.

Speaker 1 Even though I started late initially, stacked up enough pipes and drums to orchestrate a symphony, huh? Street ministry, unique energy. Rapping and selling crack, I'm that guy in each industry.

Speaker 1 Me and drugs got a deep chemistry. Flip a square into another square, yeah, complete symmetry, huh? You never see my enemies and my friends' faces.

Speaker 1 They feel y'all weirdo's energy and don't embrace it. I'm still dealing with temptation, but I stay away from bitches that's basic.
I've never been places. Outpatient, impatient.

Speaker 1 The only one in this gym with Louis Vuitton windbreakers. An entertainer that's impatient.
But money motivated. My gym trainer is bitch fragrant.

Speaker 1 My posse got it for cheaper.

Speaker 1 Kamikaze, I pull up and cock the heater. Then park something right in your top to stop the leader.

Speaker 1 Blood in haste, sous while I Saturday and Aqua Vena This Indonesia is Indica not to teach but the fighter for freedom Pride of the Bible

Speaker 1 Heart of a lion can easily spot a hyena my dreams Not to dream of my team Follow the leaders my queen Far from a camera, she's solid That's my Khadija, the follower Of the property profited off Arifa They tried to dance Tantiago like Sandback We got San Diego in Sicily Shopping out of Venetia Not a stack on me My pocket just full of visas Rockin' the Tibra, I'm proud of what Vicarina.

Speaker 1 He told me to meet a Matt Luck tried to win it, Cohiba. It's capital.
Jack, it's disturbing to be this great. I deserve to wear a turban with urgents feeding me crepes.
Got an urgency for the cake.

Speaker 1 Last nigga tried to stop me. Died with his eyes open.
He permanently awake. I'm determined to beat this hate.
It's real here. They'll put you in a fucking wheelchair.
That's courtesy of the drake.

Speaker 1 Been in the booth working. Purposely till it's late.

Speaker 1 The only thing that's concerning me is the date. Niggas still can't afford an attorney to beat that case.
But on my journey, I'ma be out in Germany in a great. I learned to see the mistakes.

Speaker 1 My vision 2020. I don't wear a chain.
I'm trying to purchase be an estate. Everything real couldn't be further from being fake.
You listen to me murder this third degree in this state.

Speaker 1 I prefer to be in the space, dangerous with the iron. And I keep it underground because the famous niggas is dying.
Bang!

Speaker 1 That's Santeria by Lil Vic, featuring 38 Special, Fashion, and RJ Payne.

Speaker 1 Fire.

Speaker 1 Fuck with it. Big Mel.

Speaker 2 Mine is called Overqualified by Durand Bernard.

Speaker 2 Okay, doer.

Speaker 2 Talented artist, yes.

Speaker 2 I'm a little too too self-aware.

Speaker 2 Love is a blessing and a curse when I care.

Speaker 2 I care.

Speaker 1 I know finding good shit is real.

Speaker 1 Cause it's impossible to look past what's there. We're not there.

Speaker 1 It's the government.

Speaker 1 Give confused arrogance.

Speaker 1 I'm a little blue.

Speaker 1 I know what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 Could be hard to fathom that I'm too well traveling. With his own news,

Speaker 1 just can't seem to get right.

Speaker 1 How am I

Speaker 1 overqualified?

Speaker 1 How am I?

Speaker 1 All that you need in your life.

Speaker 1 I thought that overnight.

Speaker 1 I'm overcome by

Speaker 1 the host with the most.

Speaker 1 And stay doing the most.

Speaker 1 Making sure you're comfortable.

Speaker 1 See what happens when you do the work. Check.
Does anybody have a reference? Check. Is anybody on their way to work yet? Shit.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I've been waiting for too long.

Speaker 1 Just can't seem to get right

Speaker 1 out of

Speaker 1 my

Speaker 1 overqualified.

Speaker 1 How am I?

Speaker 1 All that you need in all

Speaker 1 of my

Speaker 1 clinic over night.

Speaker 1 I'm overqualified.

Speaker 1 Means the one that's in me eye to eye. Got us in tight to the time of the ride.

Speaker 1 qualify.

Speaker 1 Why the fight means I wanna see me eye to eye. Gotta sit tight to the timing ring.

Speaker 1 Or quality.

Speaker 1 Can't wait till next time Be so much in myself

Speaker 1 You'll be able to find me beyond

Speaker 1 the sense be so much in myself

Speaker 1 I know that you'll find me if I

Speaker 1 can't wait wait tonight.

Speaker 1 Be so much

Speaker 1 myself.

Speaker 1 You'll be able to find me

Speaker 1 who I

Speaker 1 can't wait tonight.

Speaker 1 Be something much myself.

Speaker 1 You'll find me if I'm who I'm

Speaker 1 who.

Speaker 1 Just can't sit to get it right

Speaker 1 How the night and I

Speaker 1 get overqualified

Speaker 1 Helm and mine

Speaker 1 All that you need in your life

Speaker 1 Just can't sit to get it right

Speaker 1 Give it

Speaker 1 right

Speaker 1 now.

Speaker 1 All that you need in your life.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 As Duran Bernard overqualified

Speaker 1 and his project is hard.

Speaker 1 And I'm only talking about his project being hard. I don't know what else is hard.

Speaker 1 I don't play it often because if I put it on, hide your niggas.

Speaker 1 If I put that little slap right there on,

Speaker 1 I got it. Niggas is getting bad.

Speaker 1 You ain't got to be back in your DMs with it.

Speaker 1 Watch your mouth.

Speaker 1 No, no. Oh, no.
I didn't know what you was on. No.
I didn't know what you was on. No, I'm telling you what I'm on.
No, no, the answer is no.

Speaker 1 Tell me. Fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 Bark.

Speaker 1 Hey, I played a little slap from the Black Panther 2 soundtrack.

Speaker 1 This is from St. John's

Speaker 1 most recent album festival season. It's called Fuck Being Sad.
Oh, it's my shit.

Speaker 1 Fuck being sad.

Speaker 1 Some days I don't even wanna get dressed up Sick and tired waking up to peer pressure Stressed out, stressed out, all this mess up I'm trying, but fuck inside

Speaker 1 I've been going through it, had some real bad ones The city where I grew up, I ain't been back once Don't wanna go to funerals for people that young I'm done, so fuck I just said mama Gribby, finally got me a cribble Find my own way to ball and never learn how to dribble First they like how I scrabble, then they like how I scribble I paint my pictures with words, I hope you notice the riddle.

Speaker 1 Wish I was friends with my ex, but her heart is some riddle. She still hate me a little, that still hurt me a little.
I come from floor to bottom, you know, I'm fresh out together.

Speaker 1 All nights, it's hard enough to put on a kettle. I never fuck inside.

Speaker 1 Some days I don't even wanna get dressed up. Sick and tired of waking up to be pressure.

Speaker 1 Stressed out, stressed out, always mess up.

Speaker 1 I try, but fuck inside.

Speaker 1 I've been going through it, had some real bad ones. The city where I grew up, I ain't been back once Don't wanna go to funerals for people like young

Speaker 1 drop out of college, that shit was truly a blessing I went and got me a job, you gotta hear my confession My mama crying, my money, my sister really distressing Hard colder than ever, that's from a lack of affection Only train with my uniform, I unpack on a weapon Cause it could happen in seconds, I don't be lacking, I'm stepping I was back in no time, thank God you track my progression I thought my father missing wouldn't affect the Nestle

Speaker 1 Some days I don't even wanna get dressed up Sick and tired of waking up to pet pressure

Speaker 1 Stressed out, stressed out, always mess up I'm trying, but fuck inside

Speaker 1 I've been going through it, had some real bad months The city wide threw up, I ain't been bad once I wanna go to funerals for people that young I'm done to fuck inside

Speaker 1 Some days I don't even wanna get dressed up Sick and and tired of waking up to peer pressure.

Speaker 1 Stressed out, stressed out, always mess up.

Speaker 1 I'm trying, but fuck inside.

Speaker 1 I've been going through it, had some real bad ones. The city wide grew up, I ain't been back once.
Don't wanna go to funerals for people that young. I'm done, so fuck me inside.

Speaker 1 That's St. John.
Fuck being sad.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Because fuck being sad, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, who wants that? You're like Emo Travis.

Speaker 1 Said all that, and y'all got sad.

Speaker 1 Look at y'all. Sad as shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 You alright?

Speaker 1 Eating chips.

Speaker 1 Same snack hour, man.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go get my little meal prep. I ain't going to hold you.
This is the thing about meal prep. Right when you get to the end is when it starts cooking.

Speaker 1 Now I'm scraping the corners of the fucking meal.

Speaker 1 I don't like that meal prep shit because it don't be enough. That's the point.
That's the point.

Speaker 1 No, I know that's the point. That's why I don't like it, too.

Speaker 1 I'm going to need two feet. I can double it up.
That's the best thing. It's more important than the gym, man.

Speaker 1 I keep hearing that. They say you can't outrun your mouth.
I am not looking forward to starting this gym shit, bro.

Speaker 1 Telling you, it's going to change your life. I know I'm about to be fucked up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the first couple weeks is going to be rough for you.

Speaker 1 But once you get past that, it's going to feel so good, though. Yeah, it feels good.
Summer body loading.

Speaker 1 It's going to feel good. You're going to like it.
Yeah, it does. Now, I'm not promising the summer body part.
I've known you over 20 years.

Speaker 1 And not one summer that I see you and be like, you know what?

Speaker 1 You're really body.

Speaker 1 You body in this shit, yo. Your body kind of body.
Body, adi, yadi.

Speaker 1 We'll see, though. I just want to get in better shape.
That's it. That's just about being healthy.
That's all.

Speaker 1 Who cares?

Speaker 1 I can go buy some abs.

Speaker 1 You can do that. It's been done.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the rappers did it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They was waiting for y'all. They was waiting on y'all to come in here and break down the Drake tweet.
What Drake tweet? I don't know. I don't care.
I mean, the Instagram. I don't care.

Speaker 1 I'm still Drake. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Was it a music link attached to the two? Yeah, I'm cool. All right, then.
No.

Speaker 1 Let me know when that happens.

Speaker 1 some of the fan comments i get offended by oh my god i'm gonna hit the 15 second skip button when joe and them break down the drink drink shut your bitch ass up

Speaker 1 the fuck did you fuck you take us for a beer

Speaker 1 you're never gonna come clean about what was going on in that cisco Cisco tour, huh? I've been asking you that for a few months. You won't tell me.

Speaker 2 Come clean like what?

Speaker 1 What was you doing?

Speaker 1 I keep seeing footage go around of you on the Cisco tour with my girl, my girl Glow, big Glow.

Speaker 2 I was dancing.

Speaker 1 Look at Mark.

Speaker 1 Look at Mark face. I forgot people can see it.
Look at Mark face. Listen.
Listen, man.

Speaker 1 Keep us in your prayer. Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time, we bid you adieu. Farewell, Adio, Cereba Dirchi, Osta La Vista, Au R Bois.
So long and bow, a simple head nod will suffice.

Speaker 1 Remember, life is a series of moments, and boy, do moments pass.

Speaker 1 So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And lastly,

Speaker 1 the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel.
And the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a and all you might need it.
Hey.

Speaker 1 Anybody got any interesting plans this week? Anything going on this week that I may be able to exploit for entertainment purposes? Hey,

Speaker 1 is anybody gonna dance on a tour? Huh? Come on, give me something. Give me something.
I will.

Speaker 1 All right, nothing vibing this week. Nothing vibing this week.
Enjoying the weather. Mellow vibes.
That's it. Soldier, just starting the gym, bro.

Speaker 1 That's enough for me. I'm going to start gardening.

Speaker 1 That's funny.

Speaker 1 I might take the cover off one of these cars and pick a highway. There you go.

Speaker 1 Just go drive and drive my stupid ass back home. Ain't nothing else to do.
Can't wait for that 60-degree to hit. Right.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just trying to explore other avenues of

Speaker 1 fun.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to get outside of the normal. Normalcy.

Speaker 1 I'm so hey I'm waiting on the either bowling or escape room shit too, man. Oh, you know, it's coming.
I am 1,000% there. It is coming.
Trying to let my body heal up for the bowling.

Speaker 1 Me and my girl went bowling.

Speaker 1 Still fucked up a little bit?

Speaker 1 Me and my girl went bowling. I bowled like a 73, you know, something light.

Speaker 1 First game in.

Speaker 1 You bowled a 73.

Speaker 1 It was my first game in at least 12 years. Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 What'd she bowl?

Speaker 1 83.

Speaker 1 The first first game girl power oh y'all can't go bowl with me nah that's what i'm getting that is absolutely disgusting listen fam i mean it's better than what it said it's going in with his girl he let her bowl to 275 oh yeah no that's not happening yeah no that's not happening i pull the bumpers out before that happened yeah you're not about to put no two nothing up on me watch yeah watch this that is hilarious though

Speaker 1 ain't no good movies out or nothing If you board it all

Speaker 1 on Netflix, they got uh

Speaker 1 They got some bullshit on Netflix, but it's funny.

Speaker 1 I don't even remember the name of it, so let me shut up. That's what the fuck I was watching.
You just said Netflix, it may really remember.

Speaker 1 Some stupid show that's like a spoofaminary of Genie Buss and the Lakers,

Speaker 1 and the team is called The Waves. That show is fucking funny.
I don't watch that sort of people.

Speaker 1 It's funny. It's cheesy.
Running point. I watch it.
Running point. Running point.
Say less. It is actually a well, well, well-written show, and they're really, really funny.

Speaker 1 Oh, I mean, they are really funny in that, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 You know what I watched on Netflix? What? Beauty and Black. Yeah.
Oh,

Speaker 1 that's all I'm going to say. It's on my list.
I don't know what Beauty and Black is. Talal Perry.
Tyler Perry. Oh, that's all you need to know.
Never mind. That's it.

Speaker 1 I don't support him.

Speaker 1 I don't support him. That's it.
I've been supporting him for years. It's a Patreon conversation, man, because that's anti-black.

Speaker 1 What he's doing on them shows? Yeah, it is. Him not supporting him.
Oh, well, we're going to have a conversation on Patreon. That's great.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's where it was. I see some other anti-black going on.

Speaker 1 This nigga is bugging.

Speaker 1 All right, y'all, hold it down. We're going till next time.

Speaker 1 Just remember all the things you said before.

Speaker 1 Take no time, fall back, let it go.

Speaker 1 of doggy. JBP, JBP.
Why would you be without the JBP?

Speaker 1 Bitch!