Episode 807 | "Reverse Card Day"

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Whatever the fuck.

Get your ass out there.

All right, we ready?

We ready?

We ready?

Hey.

Yes, sir.

He, he, he, he, he, he.

What's popping?

What's happening?

Mark, you might want a microphone.

Oh.

Some headphones?

Look, the one's the one

who's talking the most shit, right?

Yeah, mister,

we don't need a board. We don't need a board? I'm a professional.
We don't need a board. I mean, for me.
I used to be in the... The one who was talking the most shit, right? Mister, we don't need a board.

We don't need a board.

I'm a professional.

We don't need a board.

I mean, for me...

I'm not used to be at the big kids table.

Y'all used to have me over there.

I forgot.

I forgot.

Shout out to Ish, by the way.

Shout him out.

My brother, who's getting his injury handled.

I found him a surgeon.

I found him an excellent surgeon, so she's going to take care of him.

Okay. All right.
Where's the surgeon? LA. For real? Wow.
Black woman surgeon. Dope.
Incredible. I ruptured my Achilles as well.
I didn't use her, but I thought this is a really good opportunity to give a black woman a chance. What kind you say them who did it all? What kind of shit is that? What is Achilles? Hold on.
Is my brain just sick in the head? That sounds like some books. I don't want to be sick in the head because I want to give black woman props and all the praise.
That was insane, Mark. I'm just teasing Ish because I know he's nervous.
He's probably going to hear this. No, she's an excellent, honestly, one of the best in the country.
She's amazing. She gave me a lot of good advice on mine.
I just happened to not go to her because I didn't discover her until afterward. I would have gone to her, and she's amazing.
I was happy to pass the connection over. I mean, she's so dope.
And that's why he went all the way across the country to see her. She's amazing.
I mean, in one version of the story, I'm sure all of that's true. What's the other version? In the other version, this black surgeon lady is dope enough to start this podcast with a five-minute ad.
and though I didn't go see her for my surgery for whatever reason, because she's so great, but there was something that happened that I didn't go see her. Damn.
Hey, I didn't talk during yours. I didn't talk during yours.
Yo, this lady is the dopest surgeon in the world. But when I tried to go see this black lady.

I would have went to the white man.

But something happened.

So, yeah, I couldn't get it done.

I'm not saying that's the wife.

I mean.

But what I can do is suggest.

My man.

Her to my man.

Who has the same injury and he could fly there's a flight involved you could fly long flight you could fly to this black lady surgeon you gotta stay over there to recover and I would assume there's a pretty good surgeons right here in New York. Top of the line.
Hey, that's the thing about New York, y'all. Hey, if you've never been in the surgeons, hey, they got the best of the best.
The premium. The best of everything.
The best in the fucking whole universe. They come here.
Happens to just be across the water. Right there.
You can see it. That's the crazy part about it.
LA and New York got dope surgeons. Yes.
And because this was a recommendation and because she's so good it made sense. You know what I mean? No, it make a lot of sense.
I don't know what New York surgeons are. I agree with you.
It make all the sense in the world. Niggas is crazy.

Oh, my God.

That's funny.

Oh, man.

My girl would put that lady all history on the TV.

Oh, yeah, black lady surgeon, huh?

L.A., huh?

What's her name?

What time we going?

My girl going right to her gram.

That's girls' Wikipedia for bitches. They gram.
Oh man, how y'all doing? Good to see y'all. Good to be seen.
How you feeling? I feel great. I feel great.
Got with my trainer yesterday. He gave me the stretch I needed.
Pause. Did the right thing with my body.
My meal prep going great. Oh, meal prep.
My no smoking is going great.'s going alright I was over here Getting educated Mel was teaching me some health shit Over here I was teaching him about a herniated disc Annoying Who has that? Yeah I didn't mean to hit me How'd you get it too? Where's yours? L6 L7 Mine's in my cervical spine Oh it was up here How do you do that? How do you do that? That's gay of you In the lumbar? Fucking your I ain't gonna hold you someone was tearing that shit up when he looked at Mel it was like L7 that's how you do that I'm trying to be nice good thing you skipped the game aated disc, nigga. Ain't the male version of that just a hernia? Just have a hernia.
No. Different body part.
Totally different. Oh, my Lord, man.
All right, so keep relating. Go ahead.
But anyway, I was getting educated on that because I didn't know. Just as annoying.
What it was or how you get that. Injections, all that surgery you got injections I had trigger point injections my lower back what was the trigger point for the girl that alright I'm asking for real what we doing I'm just asking I don't know nothing about her what we doing the trigger point he got injections right there I just want to know what he's doing.
This nigga got a BBL. Oh, shit.
Nigga got injections by his tramp stamp. Damn, how your lower back is.
Y'all, my shit fucked up, nigga. But your lower back.
What you been doing with your lower back? Archer. I can't tell y'all nothing.
Men ain't supposed to get that there. You're supposed to have it on my shoulder.
No, nigga, you lift wrong. You can fuck your lower back up.
You didn't wear your fire. You didn't wear the fire.
Car accidents. All that shit happened, though.
Oh, shit. But how do you even go find that out about yourself? Go to the doctor.
Yes. For your lower back though? You start complaining about back pain enough.
Wait, stop. Don't go.
But let's stop right there. Got it.
I've never complained about my lower back being in pain. Is what I'm saying?

You can take it.

Oh, shit.

Maybe you got the

same injury

male got.

That was a nice reverse

male.

It was.

Well played, sir.

Oh, man.

But yeah,

then they go send you

off of MRIs,

all that shit,

and they put it up.

Oh, yeah.

You got a herniated disc.

Let me know if you need. I got a bad guy.
I got some Tylenol. So you're going to send him to a bad guy? Oh, yeah.
I mean, from everything about the story... Everything about the story sounds like that's what you need.
An orthopedic. At some point today, I do want to see a picture of the black surgeon in LA.
I will. She's a brilliant sister.
That wasn't what was in question. That wasn't what was in question.
I know. I know.
At some point, I just... He going to show up.
No, no. Pull it up.
I show her. That's going to tell a whole story.
The story told already. I know.
But they like to come in here and give props to black sisters. He's going to receive some good care.
She is. That was hate.
It's not hate. Actually, it's not.
It's just the opposite. A study came out that people fare better when they have a female doctor or a female surgeon, especially a black one.
Mm-hmm. They take care of you.
My girl Mel is sitting here with the ice packs glued to her shoulders. Shoulders.
Because if I didn't, I wouldn't be able to look at your pretty face, motherfucker. Because my neck was only about this much mobility about 20 minutes ago.
How'd you hurt your neck, your back? That's hate. Cervical, it's a herniated disc.
No, but it was like a car accident? Well, yes, I did have one where I almost died. Yeah, that's the origin of it.
Oh, you still getting pain from that? I mean, no, it's gradual. Like it probably started there, like minor.
Okay. I got acupuncturist.
You should see. Please.
You just snag out everybody. I mean, this is one way to look at it.
Everything she's saying is true. There you go.

What's also true is, my God, don't play about me.

You one of them people?

My God.

Every month I tell y'all, my God, don't play about me.

It just so happens to be factual that Mel came in here

and had a field day about niggas health. Oh, shit.
She was on Clouton. And my God said, a word? A word? A word? Damn.
That's how you do it? Watch this. Look at my girl.
Mm-hmm. God damn.
Yeah, the problem is is that I probably keep exacerbating it because I won't leave the gym. Mm-hmm.
That's probably... Not the reverse card.
Yeah, that's probably the problem. It's reverse card day.
Yeah, it is. It's reverse card day.
I like it. And now that I've slept on it, I'm ready for Pilates class.
Oh, really? I'm ready. You been doing

some research or something? Listen,

if the basketball clip sold

like that,

mailing some Lululemon

at the front. Wait, I thought I had to wear

a snowsuit. No.
I thought we had to

take the

focus off of... Oh, okay.

We're here for it? Alright.

Oh, yeah. I don't even think none of us is going to be in this clip.
This shit going to fly. Oh, man.
All right, I'm having fun. I'm having a good time.
I like it. Having a good time.
It's a beautiful weather. Beautiful weather out here.
Yes, it's back. It is a beautiful day.
No surprise. A few

niggas have called out.

They do it

every time. Every time the 10

hit around 65-ish.

Dumb emergencies.

Car trouble.

Oh, man.

Surgery.

All types of shit start going on.

All right. All right, mic check, mic check, mic check, mic check.
One, two, one, two. Hey, feeling good, feeling great.
All praise due to a higher power woke me up this morning, thank God, thank God Shout out to my Muslim brothers, man, 555, I'll be here soon Not soon enough No, I know, I know My brothers is going through it You popped his body the sandwich in front of me You popped his double roast beef sandwich This is delicious They're on Ramadan, right?

Like, damn.

Oh, my Lord.

Oh, wait for the ladies.

Oh, wait for the ladies.

Whoa. I love you more.

More than you know.

On the lady show.

I love you more.

Hey.

I love you more. More than you know.
30 and up, 40 and up, 50 and up.

Eagle.

Shout out to wherever you might be listening from, of course

First and last time listeners, all the A-listers out there

All the Patroni, salute, salute, salute

And when we touch, it's just the beginning. It's been a long time.
No, no, no, no to the niggas that bring crab legs to the cookout. Word.
Hey. All the cheering out there.
All the high schoolers. Big Jersey, Big Jersey, of course.
Whole New York City to Carolinas. My heart still feels better.
When I look at you. Shout out to our brothers that couldn't be here today.
We love you. Like no one before.
You stay in my mind. me.
Ayy! Are they so special? Are they so special? Are they so special? Are they so special? Are they so special? Yes, sir! Damn. No.
No. No.
No. No.
Microphone check. One, two, what is this? Let's keep this applause going.
Hey, for the best crew in the world. Mark is handing me a picture of this black surgeon in LA.

OK.

Wonderful, wonderful black surgeon.

Wonderful woman. Wonderful woman.
And that's all I'll say. Mm.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Use your button.

Let me get these drops out the way right quick.

I know so bad, baby.

Whatever sound is this?

807. Mel and Mark.
Mark. Mark.
All right. Welcome to episode 807 of the Joe Budden Podcast.
Brought to you by, powered by, fueled by, Price Picks, Price Picks gang. Yeah.
I am your humble, grateful, gracious, and fully dressed host, Joe Budden, here with some really amazing people to my right. You already know her name, the beautiful, the intelligent Melissa Ford is in the building.
Hey. Dr.
Mark Lamont Hill is in the building, fresh off of a 1V5, right? I seen that 1v5 On Pierce. Is that old? No, that's new.
I hate them motherfuckers, man I seen you on Pierce. That's where you go to get your shit off They tried to jump my man Exactly, man Every fucking time, man What was the subject? There's always something to do with race They always ask me a race question Then I answer the race question They go, why you, why are you bringing up race? And then they all jump over it.
Every fucking time. You smoked that shit though.
Oh, I was killing it. No, you go over there and eat.
I ain't gonna hold you. It was fun.
You do. Big Freeze.
The freeziest of them all. Mr.
Take It Further himself. Let's go.
That's the nickname right there. Big Ice.
Big Parks in the building. Yep.
Fucking Poe is here. Corey is here.
My dad is here. Erickson is here.
Ian and Keith might still be here. Savon and Tanner are here by remote.
Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. What's poppin'? What's poppin'? What's poppin'? No.
What's good? Shout out to our brothers. Flip and Ish here with us in spirit.
For sure, for sure.

Yeah, Flip had an emergency fresh off of the room.

Yeah.

Fresh off of the room over the weekend. Oh, I watched some of that.

And I just got paid emergency.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

The funds hit.

Yeah.

Yeah, shout out to my brothers.

Shout out to my brothers.

How y'all feeling?

Good.

Feeling good, man.

Feeling excellent, man.

This weather makes me feel better.

Absolutely.

Even inside, I don't even care.

It's just nice.

And the time change.

Like, normally I don't be liking that shit.

Yeah.

I'm cool with it.

It's a little rough.

Yeah?

Yeah.

This shit was all right.

That time change is fucking me up.

Really?

It's fucking me up a little bit, but I'm happy that it's here.

Yes and yes.

Yeah.

We lost an hour, so I keep waking up earlier.

Word. So my 4.30 is 3.30.
I'll wake up earlier. So my 4.30 is 3.30.

I'll wake up later.

So now I'm up at 3.30 in the morning

sitting there looking stupid,

watching old movies.

I did watch The Social Network again.

What a great movie.

I saw you tweet that.

I was like,

are you watching The Social Network

at like 6 a.m.?

It's very different watching it now.

Yeah, 3.30 in the morning.

I said,

you know what I've been meaning

to see again?

The Social Network.

That's an interesting choice.

Thank you. It's very different watching it now.
Yeah, 3.30 in the morning. I said, you know what I've been meaning to see again? The Social Network.
That's an interesting choice. It's one of those movies that I interpret differently as an adult.
Like an adult adult. Like in my 40s.
Also, we've kind of seen the shit play out a little bit. Yeah, Justin Timberlake.
What a sack of shit in the Social Network. But anyway, we won't won't talk about that so yeah I'm just waking up early and earlier well if anybody fasting that extra hour is not the best it's not your friend I saw you say that yeah because it's been 5.58 to break fast now it's 6.58 that hour is crucial yeah but I don't know nah because they never you sleep though you get the back on the other end if you wake up to eat because you get to sleep an extra hour before that but I don't I usually go to bed like you I'm up all night and then I miss breakfast and then I'm going until 6 o'clock and now I'm going until 7 o'clock so for me I don't I don't get the advantage of the other side of it I ain't gonna say I'm up all night now I'm in bed bed.
That's true. I hit that bed around 7 o'clock.

That's the fire shit, boy.

Just being in bed.

When I used to live with Corey and he was old and I was young and hot,

and Corey just used to stay in the room and never leave for like months at a time.

I used to be hitting the streets.

I used to look up to him and be like, how the fuck does he do that shit?

Now you get it. Shit.
Shit like, all right, right? Nigga, what? That's the goal. I really only need a room.
They lucky to say the 90s when renting a room was still fashionably cool. I would get a room.
And if you caught the room that didn't have the shared bathroom, what? Ooh, shout out to 95. That room saved my life when I was running away from home.
Oh, hell yeah. If they're weak.
Yeah. You see me? Anyway, what are we talking about? Let's fight about shit.
Yo, I'm telling y'all now, I'm not taking none of this news serious. I don't feel like there's that much serious no some of this shit is a little serious every single day there's some kind of catastrophic event happening or you know Trump signs another fucking you know piece of paper toilet paper I'm blocking some of that shit out for me what made me nervous was hearing that JD was coming for y'all.
I heard he went to fuck y'all up.

Oh, yeah. Let's get right to it.
Jermaine Dupri is on Ice and Melissa Ford's ass. That's who ass he on? Yeah.
He ran on your H7. What's he? Yeah, L2.
Yeah, L3. What hurts? Jermaine Dupri has replied

to all of the responses to his independent tweet. And he made a video.
In that video, he highlights the Joe Budden podcast and how we framed his question to make it appear like he was comparing Indy versus Major, and that wasn't his goal at all. Well, we didn't frame that.
Yeah, I feel like he did that all on his own. I think we just read the tweet.
Yeah, that's how you tweeted that. Why would y'all, what's the benefit of being independent, basically, is what he asked.
I'm not framing anything. Well, let me let y'all, because y'all don't want to smoke.
Nah, ain't got no smoke. He on y'all ass.
He not on me. That's not the, he not on my ass.
But go ahead, finish. You can finish.
I was going to say, I haven't actually heard what he's had to say. So if we have a little bit to play, then I'm more than.
He put like a six, excuse me, six, seven minute clip up. Oh, Christ.
And majority of it was just him explaining, basically saying, I understand what independent is because I've done X, Y, Z. So he broke down how he found Dondria, how he, you know, everything, her album was all independent, all funded by him, no outside backing, nothing like nothing like that.
Um, he addressed people saying how he quote unquote fumbled having lotto because she, she started on the rap game show and he was saying the winner of that show, you got a chain, you got for him to produce a song. We don't care about what that shit he said.
His point was, that's a sick prize by by the way. Who was the winner, anyways? Do we know who they are? Did we talk about them? No, this is years ago.
No, I'm saying, but Valado is where she is, and where is the winner of that show? This is the worst gift. Anyways, keep going.
That wasn't the point. His point was, what is special about being independent? I don't think that it was...
Some of the things that people were naming, freedom and having your rights and so forth and so on, he was saying I have got that and I know people that have those same things on majors. So what is specifically special about being independent? Everybody don't get that on the majors.
I was about to say, again, he still sounds like he's speaking from a privileged standpoint. Oh, you want the smoke.
It's not smoke, though. It's literally just addressing commentary that's going back and forth.
I don't have anything personal against the guy, but the fact of the matter is that it still sounds like he's speaking from a privileged position, because like Parks just said, it's not, just because you're on a major doesn't guarantee that you're going to have all of that, and it just seems like... You're trying to get part of the mall.
Let it cook, let it cook, come on, let it cook. Somebody got to break up your stretch? I see you, girl.
No, I'm coming for it, so don't you stop. No, come for me.
No, no, no, no. I'm talking shit.
Go ahead. Okay.
No, it just seems like, like I said, he's speaking from a privileged position. And like I said as well, that it might be an antiquated thought process.
I just don't like the fact that he's even mentioning, I know people in majors that got their masters and all that. They had to negotiate that probably down the line.
You're not getting signed today, well, unless you're scorching hot. You might could leverage some of that today.
But that's, again, a small point. Those who are scorching hot kind of realize, hey, I got here.
It sounds like he's referring to outliers you know i'm saying so it's the exception to the rule and so it's it's kind of like you know when they use the success of a black person to say see racism doesn't exist you know there's a opportunity is is bountiful no the fuck it's not you know i'm saying like that's it seems like he, you know, kind of trying to create that kind of argument and it still falls a little flat to me. Do you think that he's got it wrong or do you think he's carrying the water for the majors? That's what the latter, it sounds like.
I mean, according to him, all he was doing was asking a question and we should never make it so in hip hop that somebody is unable to ask a question. But here's the problem with that.
That's what he said. I hear that.
And if he weren't Jermaine Dupri, it would be like me saying on Twitter, what's the point of Black History Month? I could just be asking a question, but you would expect that I would know the answer to that based on who I am and where I am in the world. After 40 years...
Is Black History Month February or April? Both. It's all year round.
It's all year round. So we get two.
We just get February. We just get February.
We used to get a week. Now we get a month.
For now. We don't really get shit anymore according to Trump.
But go on. But if it's April.
All right. So it's like when Jermaine Dupri says what's the difference it's hard to take it as an earnest question when he's an industry veteran, a legend, somebody who knows the business inside and out.
It's hard for me to believe that he needs to ask that question to Twitter. And that's why I keep saying it's an earnest question when he's an industry veteran a legend somebody who knows the business inside and out it's hard for me to believe that he needs to ask that question to twitter and that's why i keep saying it's an antiquated thought process because it's like a meek tweet no comment but i'll say this if if you heard me say what's the point of black history month you would you would interpret it as me saying something's wrong with it because it's me asking as opposed to a 12 year old asking yeah you're more informed right so you would assume if i'm asking i'm asking it with a point of view already if jermaine dupree is saying what's the difference between a major and an independent when you spent your whole life in the music business you were this big literally i gotta assume you have an opinion on it that you're trying to communicate through that question and the way he worded it it almost sounded like he was i'm not putting words in your mouth pause i want you have no smoke over here.
It almost seemed like you were looking down at the people that wanted to be independent. That was a logical way to perceive what he said.
It's like, yo, a lot of y'all want the same thing that you would want being on a major. Okay, guess who's not getting a Jermaine Dupree beat? Guess who's not a rapper? You and Mel and R.
I don't want it. You and Mel.
But you put a tweet like that out into the ether. Not everybody's going to agree with you.
It's going to create discourse. It's going to create conversation.
I thought the tweet was engagement for me to begin with. And you said that.
I was going to say, and people know that. What you just said, you know if I put a tweet out what it's going to do.
Yeah. Like, I know I could create a conversation, even if it's just boredom or whatever.
I know I could create a conversation off this. All of that's true, but to Mel's earlier point, it really could just be him speaking from his privilege like we've already stated.
And that's not to say that he's never worked independent projects, never worked with independent artists. I'm clear who Jemaine Dupri is.
For sure. But his story is not everyone's story.
It's not most of our story. It certainly was not my story and my experience in dealing with major labels.
And I think there's more of me than there are of him for sure agreed so when you start putting options in front of people face and they start to go get educated about what they are willing to deal with when independents are trying to figure out how they can maximize their audience uh, some of the things you hear independently

sound a lot more favorable to the artist

than the typical,

because I'm a dinosaur now too,

typical major label experience.

Yeah, I'm not going to lie too.

My experience being basically B2B,

business to business in music,

I'm still waiting.

I'm mad.

Checks from major labels from months, some cases years. Independence, it might be less money, but I get paid before the shit comes out.
And that's why I also said, I think part of his tweet, I could see if he spoke, let's say he spoke to five artists that he was just trying to work with or something, right? Yo, what you want, you know, what type of situation you're looking for? And they all speaking, nah, I want to be independent. I don't want X, Y, and Z.
I could see him now taking that question to say, yo, why all y'all want to be independent? Like, when we first addressed it, I said it sounds like it might have a little bit of frustration in it, is I can't get no artists that I'm trying to sign because all y'all want to be independent now. A lot of people woke up.
They're not falling for that music industry gaffled no more. Some still are, but a lot of people got this information out here realizing, hey, I'm not going to sign a bad deal.
I'll wait. Well, that's what was interesting to me.
He said, I know people have gotten this deal. He didn't say, I signed people to that kind of deal.
Was he giving people the independent label kind of deals at social death?

Was he doing that?

Independent label?

What I'm saying is he's saying

there are majors

that get all the good stuff

that independents get.

You can get it on a major.

And I'm saying,

well, he had a label, right?

He didn't say,

I'm giving those deals out

because then that would make sense to me.

Like, why y'all going over there?

I can give y'all that here.

He said, I know people who got that.

So it doesn't sound like

he's giving them out either.

Oh, y'all going on. You.
Never going to be here. No beat for you neither, fuck.
Damn. Yeah.
Sorry. There goes my rap career.
Exactly. Mr.
Chad. That Functify remix ain't happening.
You could have used it as a bed underneath your night school shit. Right.
If you guys want to hear what Jermaine Dupri had to say about it, you can go on YouTube. There are entire clips of him explaining his thought process.
I don't want to just one-side this thing. Please, by all means, go check out what he had to say about it.
But, yeah, I'm out of there. I might need to be one day.
Sorry. That's my man, man.
I love Jermaine Dupree. Yeah, like Nobody's disputing His legendary status In the game It's just You know Sometimes Not even a little bit Not even a little bit Not at all Not even a little bit You little fucking Shit disturber I don't know when you Disagree with something He said That's it People disagree with me All goddamn days No no no I'm talking shit That's it bro Jogo with me all goddamn days.
No, no, no. I'm talking shit.

That's it, bro.

Joga, get some shit started.

No, no, no.

I'm chilling.

I'm chilling.

I'm not.

I'm not.

I'm not.

I'm not.

I'm not. Shout out to Jermaine Dupri.

Come on.

What else can we fight about?

Let's not recap somebody

doing a recap of our recap

of what they said.

Come on.

What can we fight about?

Let's fight about Doshi.

I was just going to

raise your hand.

Hey!

Let's go! Friend of the show. Friend of the show.
I love Doshi. I mean, I don't know now.
Oh, shit. I stand with Doshi.
First, I still, I have to acknowledge, she was in Paris Fashion Week. Holy shit.
Whoever her team is, she won. She won.
She won. She won.
She won. Hands down, she was that girl at Paris Fashion Week.
Just had to say that. Did you see Ice Spice leaving the off-white event? No.
Why did she leave? No, it was over. She was leaving the event, draped in some off-white shit.
Alva, you didn't see it. So how could you say who won? That would kind of speak to it.
Yeah, she didn't see it because I didn't see it. Because everybody was posting Doshi because she won Paris Fashion Week.
She looked great. Amazing.
Ice Spice did. That was a joke? Got it.
You're never going to get an Ice Spice feature? That's true. Fuck.
I know you were looking forward to that yo Joe Budden featuring ice spice that was another reverse card I wanted to just point that out but back to Doshi so she was doing it was like a hot ones challenge hot ones yep yeah and she was. And she was asked.
She did Hot Ones without Sean.

Yeah.

They've been doing that lately, though.

I'm not mad at it.

That was Miss Malone.

Shout out to Miss Malone.

They did it with SZA and Kiki for that movie.

It's the same format.

Okay.

Got it.

Put you with somebody that you're... Yeah, yeah.
Got it. Got it.
All right, so she did Hot Ones without Sean. Her and Miss Milan.
Shout out to Miss Milan. Friend of the show.
And she was asked a question about what her... What would her red flag be? Mm-hmm.
And she wrote the answer down and she said if the guy says he's a straight man, that's a red flag. And everybody was just up in arms, agenda, and attack on this.
It's exhausting. It was...
So what do y'all got to say about it? I stand with Dolce on that. You know what I mean? Not in the sense that I think think you don't like straight men either? not my thing

yeah

not my thing

no

it's

she's entitled

to have a flag

for herself

sure

and I felt like

if she said like

fuck all straight men

that's different

right

I felt like she was saying

this is a red flag for me

and based on her experiences

also she's dated guys

who are bi

yeah

she's got a type

and from what I understand

she herself

is pretty sexually fluid

yeah

so if that's

If you want to well, then yeah, that might be a flag for her. What was some of the criticism? I just want to say, if you guys continue down this route, I'm going to be against Doshi.
Go ahead. I'm on Doshi side.
If y'all continue

to be so adamant

in your...

You got a 1v4

coming up, I think.

I'm on Doshi side too.

I'm down.

We all with Doshi.

I got to do it now, man.

I got to do it.

I got to do it.

The criticisms, Mel,

and I had some

private conversations

about it.

It was the choosing

of the word red flag.

Okay.

And a lot of people feel like red flag doesn't necessarily... Women don't know what red flag means.
Yes. That's really what it brought down to.
That's the criticism. That is a broad statement that treats us not like a mouth, but okay.
No, no, that's what a lot of the criticism came from because people were saying red flag means danger. So you're saying straight men are a danger.
This is like a red flag means. No.
I don't does either. A red flag is just a sign that something is concerning.
It doesn't have to be danger. Oh, knock it the fuck off.
Like if you go to a job interview and you show up an hour late, that's a red flag. The definition, because I had this conversation and I was with you.
A red flag is used as a warning of danger.

But not physical danger is what I'm saying.

Danger.

It didn't say physical.

Right.

Of some danger.

So back to my point.

This is a remix, not to bring it up again, of that stupid fucking bear question.

It kind of is.

It kind of is.

This is a remix of that.

One, if Dochi is fluid, which she is, to my knowledge, she don't date straight men. So if you're asking somebody what is a red flag in the people that you date, and you respond with people that you don't date, then what is the point of that other than to be divisive and to offend? Or to warrant some type of attention.
And this is where I took her side. I just think it was misinterpreted.
I think she treated red flag as what is something you see that makes you say, oh, no, I'm good. Yeah, exactly.
That's how people use red flags. That's what a red flag...
So let's say, though, she liked to do some things with her dude that a straight man might not be okay with. Use your imagination.
Don't you do it. Well, we don't even have to do that.
She allegedly, because I can't speak to nobody's sex business, don't date straight men. Cool.
What I'm saying is. She might have even said that up here.
I feel like she did. She she did she did she did something like that so then what the fuck is she talking about straight men for because if she is which is she's on a date with a guy hold on let me land first which is fucked up because you know mark and people speak a lot about representation and how it's important to be represented in certain spaces.
So when we have Dolce up here and when we see Dolce getting these awards and when we see her winning, like straight black men feel represented also. Like they can identify with that.
That's fine. We still we still do so there's really no point in yo whoever is carrying a baton for you let them carry the baton so you say she's you said whether they whether they fucking asian whether they gay whether they transgender is no reason to pinpoint anybody who not only you're representing but who's carrying the baton for you.
So you feel like... And say, red flag, danger.
So you feel like that was her alienating a certain portion of her fan base just by saying something like that. I mean, not just...
I think it's blown out of proportion, though. I absolutely do.
Honestly, I think though she was just literally saying... I think she was being performative and a little facetious.
And the guy says, or she just meets a guy, get a guy number or something, and y'all get to talking and he lets her know he's a straight man, I'm good. I also think the show is especially.
And I don't think there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's a little jokey.
If that's the type of nigga she like. That's what I'm saying.
I think there's a lot of performance. All right, so y'all fooling out.
Every excuse. No.
She don't know what red flag mean. She's joking.
And what's the other one y'all said? See, I'm saying I do think she know red flag mean. I think she's using the way most people use it.
I think that she has a type. And I think it's okay to say that when I meet somebody who's not that thing, that's a flag for me.
For example, if she's- But wait, that's exactly where we're having the disagreement here. Right.
If somebody asks me, hey, what's a red flag for you and your dating? And I say, gay women. I get you.
Then I can't act fucking, I can't act surprised when the gay women say. Wait, wait, wait.
Wouldn't that be a red flag for you? What'd you say? No, it wouldn't be. you what'd you say no i see his point it wouldn't be a red flag if because she doesn't like men but that's not the point i get what he's saying he's saying obviously if you if this whole sort is something you don't deal with then saying that their red flag just alienates them because that's not your type i mean that's not your thing i hear that what i'm saying is i don't operate from the premise that she doesn't date any straight men i think based on all the interviews i've seen she dates men and she does not have a problem dating bisexual men and i think that there's a certain thing she wants in men what emotionally physically sexually whatever that she tends to find in men who are not straight and so the red flag for her comes comes when she meets a dude who's straight.
I would like somebody who's potentially the female rapper that's going to fucking carry the next however many years with all the success, and she's extremely talented, to not be on some, hey, let's divide the people, and straight men are the red flag, and yada, yada, yada. For her.
I do not think that that, I do not think that she. I'm not saying that.
But that is how you, that is how it came off. Okay, so Joe, Joe, if you like threesomes all the time, all you want was threesomes, right? Whoever you with, they got to be down with threesomes, right? And somebody said, what's a red flag for you? And you said, and they said, a straight girl.
Would that be alienating straight women? You want a girl who's bisexual? Who would the shits? Yeah. It's no different.
It's the same thing. It's the same thing.
Oh, I don't see it that way at all. All we did was switch the gender.
I don't see it that way at all. Then that's all you got to do sometimes.
Touche. Yeah, exactly.
Touche. For it to just suddenly, you know, reverse.
I don't see it that way at all. And again, I'm not making a big deal out of this, but it became a big deal because, yeah.

It became a big deal because the people that did not fit her type, preference, whatever you want to call it, were the ones offended.

Age-old Twitterism.

And that's always what happens.

You can sit there and say, a woman can say, I don't like short men.

You know who's going to get mad?

Short men.

Even if they don't like her.

Right.

Even if they were never checking for her, they're mad because they're alienated out of something they never wanted. She seems to get a particular rise out of people on Twitter too for some reason.
Because, well, a lot of it ties back to who she's with. The label.
The TDE part. So there's that going on and then there's, you know, people can't understand.
And I'm tired of the whole industry plant thing. Yo, Doji's been working for years.
Facts. Like, an industry plant is somebody that popped up yesterday that nobody knew who they were and they're getting every look in the world and, like, she's been working.
Fuck, don't make me be on the other side of this one. Don't.
Be on the other side of it. Mark out.
And then at the same time, I'm quick to offer somebody grace when they are, have newly been thrust into, like, the upper echelon of fame. You know what I'm saying? Like you're not always going to have, you know, to say the right thing.
You're not a fucking robot. You know what I'm saying? So you're going to say something and you're being cheeky and facetious.
And then all of a sudden the internet's coming after you and you're like, wait, hold on one second here. I just like a lot of butt play with, you know, in my sex life and straight guys tend not to fucking like that.
That's why it's a red flag for me because I really like butt play. I also imagine as bisexuals, being with other bisexuals is probably a little easier because you can understand each other's shit.
I think that that was what she was leading to and this was just like a really shortcut in terms of explaining that that is her preference. Because like you said, it's a playful show and she didn't want to get into all the specifics about butt play.
Well, that's not true because Miss Milan said, oh, I was going to say men for you. So it ain't just they both sitting there jokey-jokey, it's a playful show.
It's, no, me and my fucking bestie are like-minded when it comes to this area, at least, and, because Miss Milan was supposed to to guess for her. So yeah, my best friend knows where I stand on this.
And I would have loved to have heard the actual answer to the question. Hey, what is a red flag in the people that you date? That was the first thing I asked her when she came here.
Hey, that verse on the album where you were dating the

bisexual dude and then

you went through his phone and saw that he was

with it. That's intriguing.

It is. You don't need to insert

straight

guys in this. Just

be intriguing. But there

is a thing. There is a thing.
I'm not

jumping on it because it's going to make me seem like one of them niggas

that I'm not. But there is a thing

of straight

men feeling like there's the erasure

Thank you. There is a thing.
There is a thing. I'm not jumping on it because it's going to make me seem like one of them niggas that I'm not.
But there is a thing of straight men feeling like there's the erasure of them from television and from yada, yada, yada. That is a thing.
It's not a Joe Budden thing. Yeah, it's a thing.
And I'm not saying that I'm enforcing that. Because it's crazy.
But... I mean, part of communication is knowing how you come off.
That's true. Part of communication is knowing how you come off.
I'm just saying, straight mail. I end with that.
Fair enough. I'll leave it there.
Yeah, I end with that. The old preference argument.
That's it. Really gets people hot.
That's it. That's it.
See, I'm not looking at it like a preference argument. Maybe that's my problem.
That's all I saw with this. You can't argue with nobody about their preferences.
Yes, you can. I think that's all she was saying.
Yes, you can. They do it every single day.
That's called podcasting. But how you handle things that fall outside of your preferences says something.
True. You can have a preference as long.
This is what I learned. Y'all all know me.
Y'all get the, but they know me. Y'all know I have a preference.
And what I've learned, and it took me years to grasp it fully, but pause, to, you can have your preference, you don't have to put down what's not your preference in order to have your preference. That's it? That's it.
That's it. And I don't think she was doing it.

Exactly.

I don't think

that's what she was doing.

And I guess that's the part

that's open for interpretation.

Yes.

There we go.

Yes.

All right,

that wasn't the worst

Dolce argument.

Fuck.

I feel like I failed then.

And shout out to Dolce.

She was just,

what,

Billboard's

Woman of the Year?

Oh,

absolutely. That's the part that makes people feel a little plant-ish.
Why? Just to be clear. Why she had a fucking incredible year.
Yeah. It was a fucking incredible year.
I don't think people understand the difference between, like, worked hard and now are getting breaking through. Reaping the benefits of your hard work.
But we're literally seeing videos of her four years ago manifesting the success that she has right now sitting in her room. Like, you know what I'm saying? Just hoping against hope that this pans out for her.
You think she's a plan, Joe? I think, yeah. I think it's a trap.
It's not a trap. Absolutely a trap.
It's a trap. It's a trap.
It's a trap. And I can't fall in a trap because like I said, I see her and it still represents me.
I'm a black man. So why would you want to eat? Even if you felt like that, why would you want to say that? I'm not.
That's not how I move. And I don't think she's a plant.
But to the people that think she's a plant, it's very easy to see why they think she's a plant.

They don't feel as though,

I'm not speaking, I'm speaking for them.

They don't feel as though

what's happening with her

has much to do with the impact from her album.

That's it.

I think that's a mistake.

They don't feel like the music

is the thing that's making all of these

Let's it. I think that's a mistake.
They don't feel like the music is the thing that's making all of these looks and awards and the accolades. I ain't gonna lie, my mom sent me a clip last night of oh no, she sent me a clip of Lauryn Hill at Roberta Flack's funeral.
But I think before that, it was a picture of Dolce doing doo-wop with Lauryn Hill.

And I don't think she's a plant.

And said to myself, oh, that's exactly what I wanted to see.

Dolce doing doo-wop with Lauryn Hill.

Like, come on, y'all.

Like, come on. I think that's just, I think, I think that's Lauren blessing her.
Good. Good.
I'm only talking about how things appear, Mark. No, I'm with you.
Has she done that to anybody else? Lauren? Nikki kind of bowed before her and, and, you know, I gave her her love and praise and she showed love back. This is the first time I've seen her sort of outreach to a woman rapper.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Has she done that? Yeah, maybe it's the first time she thinks somebody should take the torch.
Or maybe Lauren's like, all right, it's probably time for me to pass the torch since the second I'm income. Got it.
You know, I can respect that. I don't know.
I feel like in every industry I've ever been in or seen, when someone is successful, one, it's always from a grind that people didn't see. And then the people who didn't get it then say that person's a plant.
I remember when Ta-Nehisi Coates became a big star or Melissa Harris Perry on TV, Cornel West was like, they're a liberal plant. Right.
I'm not even joking. Right.
When I was an activist in movements, whenever somebody got too close to the leader, they're an agent. Right.
It's like every movement, every organization, when people don't succeed, everybody looking around says they must have got there

because they cheated.

They're a secret mason.

They're part of a secret.

We do that with everything.

We think anybody who's successful,

not us.

Illuminati.

Illuminati.

That's what I was trying to say.

Yeah, thank you.

Everybody got there the wrong way.

It's just hate.

It's just hate.

Everybody got there the wrong way

except you.

Right.

Because you ain't get there yet.

Exactly.

That's why.

Yeah.

Well, and there's people that believe in the music industry button. Right.
Well, I think we all, I believe in the music industry button. Yeah.
But I also think that you have to work. The plants don't have to work to get them to push the button.
That's a fact. They're chosen and the button is pushed.
I think those who worked and worked and worked and then the buttons can make things look planish yeah but that's if you don't pay attention if you didn't see anything beforehand so i'm not mad at nobody that says don't she's a plant because they might not have seen the previous work but that's where people can come in and inform you no this girl's been working yeah and you see this ain't her first mixt her first, none of this. Like, she's been grinding.
And you see the culmination of all of that hard work, specifically over the course of this last year, like her Tiny Desk, that was one of the best of 2024. She killed that shit fire.
Like, that shit was fire. Her performance of the Grammys, her winning best rap album, like, all of this is just, it's part and parcel with all of the work that she has put in.
You don't just get to that level of talent just by fucking accident. It's honed.
See, that don't really be a, oh my God, y'all, oh man, where's Flip? Joe, help me understand. Because I don't want to take, I'm not taking the other side in all of this.
However, we still talk in the music industry. In the music industry, the hard work is never...
Hard work is not what culminates the stardom. No.
Right. That's like your number one.
It's great that you do it. That's awesome.
That's like the bars in hell. All right.
Hard work. But millions and millions...
It's back to me telling Jermaine Dupree there's more a meeting there's millions of people that worked hard for sure and are talented that fall into the black hole that's a fact correct so it's a rare meeting where works hard and very talented comes together mmhmm, you're saying what I'm saying, I think. Oh, okay.
Carry on. Yeah, I'm saying niggas that work hard and have all the talent in the world fall by the wayside.
You don't hear that. He said no.
Everybody that work hard don't have all that talent. He said that black hole is filled with people who didn't do both.
You can just be a hard worker and be not talented. And then there's the third leg of

sticking with it. And the

intersection of those three things is

rare. But I feel like the hip-hop underground is filled with people

who work their ass off, grind, got

a lot of talent, and never make it big, and they do that shit for

30 years.

Define make it big.

They never get out of working Joe's Pub.

No disrespect to Joe's Pub, but I'm saying

if your goal is to be major label

filling stages, you never get the...

That's their grind. I think there's Pub, but I'm saying if your goal is to be major label filling stages, you never get the— You know what I mean?

That's their grind.

I think there's a lot of people, like Joe said, who are super talented and work really hard and stick to it.

I mean, how many musicians we know always playing local spots, never blow up bands, never make—

I mean, I think this goes back to the independents.

This goes back to the JD conversation to some degree because some people choose to do that.

Don't want that.

And not just that.

Some people just never—they didn't get the right visibility.

They weren't seen by the right person.

That's what i'm saying that's the right time though you get what i'm saying you can be working hard working hard working hard and then the ceo of such and such just happened to be having lunch at the spot where you playing the guitar oh shit this dude is ill he's a beast and that meeting changes your life well can y'all explain something who is an example of a plant because maybe I don't have what's a clear indisputable example of a plant see because then I could compare it names yeah like who would be who would we say is a plant I say Lil Nas X is a plant okay I say what's Million Dollar Baby, dude? Tell me. A plan.

When I say those people that are just, you literally popped up overnight with a hit.

Because number one, you don't get to top of the charts without backing from somewhere.

Okay. That's back to the hard work and talent thing.
You're not going to just,

that's back to the hard work and talent thing.

That's not getting you number one.

So is Justin Bieber playing?

No, he was.

I mean, because I'm like,

if somebody's an internet sensation

and then a label says,

you know what,

this dude just got 50 million.

Prodigy.

You know what I mean?

They got all the stuff.

Well, internet sensation doesn't speak to talent.

But that's what I'm saying.

So the Lil Nas X piece of it,

is he a plant or is he somebody who they said, look, he can create an audience, let's escalate him to the top? That's what a plant would be, though. Then where's the hard work? Where's the grind? Gotcha.
So if you make it to the top too fast, you're a plant. If I don't see the hard work, if I don't see the grind that you've been actively, if you drop a record today and it goes viral or whatever, I'm not bad at that.
Like, L'Angelo Ball is not a plant to you? No, he's not a plant. But he got a viral hit.
And then he got a big deal. That's what I'm saying.
But where's the grind? Do you see him on the cover of, do you see him on the award shows? Do you see him at the top of the charts? You don those things got you even i mean it's kind of early that's where i said the majors try to make some shit look like it's happening organically and it's not okay that okay viral the uh the the ball brother uh brother that we're talking about here had had a song independently that made noise for two weeks and then the labels

got involved

and you could see

their push.

That one's also

a little different

because he had an audience.

He had a name.

So it's a little easier

to check from the audience.

He had a name.

He was going to check

from me anyway.

I'm not giving you

my plant list

because all hell

would break loose.

I was trying.

That was nice

what he did.

Lil Nas X.

Yeah, the safe ones.

Yeah, yeah.

I didn't jump out the window. It's some other ones.
Yeah, I was being messy. Oh, no, it's some other ones.
It absolutely is. What do they rhyme with? Nope.
I've learned that. You'd have got me three years ago.
I'd be... No, no, no.
Fair enough. I tried.
But the problem, and I'm cool with some of the niggas that be signing plants. So even if you don't fuck with the plant,

it's like,

my man gets money over there, man.

Go ahead.

Go ahead and get your shit off,

God damn it.

Is Christina Aguilera Latin?

She's half.

I think so.

She's half.

Yeah, I think maybe her dad

or something like that is.

I ain't know him.

I thought she was a white girl.

Poquito, yeah. Poquitoito That was the only question That was hella random Extremely random What inspired that? Something I saw On the internet It was one of our Old videos And they was like Why didn't we Why didn't we call her Out for appropriating Back in the day? And in the comments, they was like, she's Latin.
I was like, wait, she is? I don't fucking know what Christina Aguilar is. Her father is Ecuadorian.
Ecuadorian. There you go.
Oh, that's one of those. She was the first one to grow up in a house without her dad and then use his equity in the music business.
That's a thing now. I've never seen dads get so much love like they get in a house.
was mixed and he was mixed race and he was African and he was. My dad.
They got to stop that shit. And to answer that person's question, because nobody gave a fuck about appropriation back there.
Unfortunately, that's some new shit. That's true.
That's absolutely true. Gwen Stefani walking around.
nobody cared. Are you dope? Can you sing?

Can you rap?

Can you whatever?

All right.

That's all we cared about back then.

Them Gwen Stefani days.

Bring them back.

Gwen still looks good too.

I love them.

Them Gwen Stefani.

Nelly Fatardo.

All of that.

Nelly Fatardo went crazy,

right?

Huh?

I ain't heard from her. I don't know what happened with that.
She's still performing. Is she? Yes, she's still performing.
Did she go crazy? No, she had a child. She went through.
Why are you not answering my question purposely? She did not go crazy. She was public about the postpartum that she experienced after childbirth.
And also she has, you know, had some insecurities with her physical appearance as a result. So the answer.
She did not do that. Nelly Furtado is the one that went crazy a little bit.
She had a mental breakdown on stage. She had a nervous breakdown, yeah.
I'm just basing this off some fucking reels of her I'd seen where she was acting like Tory Lanez's dad. Yo!

I seen her.

I seen them reels.

Because I wrote down in my notes one day,

hey, why won't nobody tell Nelly Vitardo to shut the fuck up?

I think she was going through postpartum, though.

Thank you.

It's Women's History Month.

She was on the road in 07.

Yes, it is.

March?

Yes.

That's when it is.

Every March. For like 30 years.
Hey, they didn't give a fuck. Hey, put the woman right behind the niggas.
Hey, let's get both them groups to fuck out of here. Out of the way early.
Before the weather break. Or we can enjoy the spring.
All right. Hope she's doing better.
Hope she's doing better. Yeah, I hope she's doing good.
Work. She had some slaps.
She did. Mm-hmm.
Okay. All right, so.
I remember that many. We'll go.
Can I ask y'all a boat question? Can I ask the boat question? Sure you can. So the internet last week was all- Internetting.
Internetting for sure. And people were outraged because people asked the boat question.
And the question was, if you are in a boat with your husband, wife, significant other, and your child, a baby. How old? Were they specific about it being a baby, like newborn baby? I think what I saw was 10 months, but I'll double check that.
But let's just assume that was 10 month old baby. And you can only save one.
Who do you save? Now, the question itself got people going. But what got people really going was this woman in particular who made a video saying, we can make another baby.
I chose that man the head of my household he is my king i saw this i saw this i'm choosing him we'll just make another baby and people said she got biblical on it too oh she got real biblical yeah yeah yeah she hit some thou shout dots and the next thing i know the title wave the tsunami of course she was she was black yeah got it Yeah And so people were like How dare you Well what's the outrage Um How you gonna let your baby Drown for this nigga Alright well y'all answer first I don't have no kids Same We're out of this 10 months though I don't even really know the baby like that. 10 months? I think my daughter might have had it.
Was she walking? What if the answer was two? What if it was two? What if it was right now? Oh, no, no, no. Right now it's different.
Your girl got to go? Yeah. She got to go.
Sorry, baby. I love you.
Why you can't say both? You're supposed to say, I'll leave. And then they survive.
Actually, I was thinking like, Why you can't say both You're supposed to say I'll leave And then they survive Actually I was thinking like I really can't I'm gonna just have to go for myself just to be extra safe I'm not bringing nobody I'm bringing this life jacket No I don't think there's a wrong answer I don't think there's a wrong answer It would be hard for me to look at an innocent child And leave them though Niggas do it do it every day. That's true.
Yeah, but they leave me in a crib. I was about to say, why are you looking back? That's the truth.
Look for the short. I'll be right back.
Don't look him in the eyes, man. The fuck? I don't see me leaving no baby.

I love my wife.

I probably would take the baby.

I feel like I could.

Yeah, I mean, you can't make another person.

So whoever, you can't replace either of them,

but I'd probably take the baby.

Yes, you can.

You can make another baby.

No, I mean, you can't make that person.

You might make a better person.

You don't even know.

Man, have you seen the dating scene?

And if the baby's ill like that, it find a way Make it through the struggle Michael Phelps would've made it happen Man baby Yeah baby's good I think you have no natural swimmers At that point Yeah yeah The baby be alright I think an adult Had a better chance of swimming Than a 10 month old right No No Y'all niggas crazy. No.
You throw a baby in the water.

They just naturally just like kind of like

rotate their body

and float that up.

Look, just told us last week

he almost died

when somebody threw him in a...

He was like five or something.

That's my babies.

Yeah.

Babies can swim.

And we gonna find out.

So, Joe, I'm hearing you say...

A 10 month old?

Yeah. Please, man.
I'm keeping my wife... A 10-month-old? Yeah.

Please, man, I'm keeping my wife.

Facts.

Keeping my wife.

And we're going to fuck tonight.

In the name of the baby.

Oh!

Oh!

Little Derek.

Oh, fuck.

Damn.

We're going to have a play some quick.

We're going to play some quick.

Quick, real fast.

Real fast.

It's going to be a 9 o'clock break.

Yep.

Hey, I was looking at my wife. Hey, this new baby has been beating her ass.
We did need a break anyway. She needed a little 10-month break.
Postpartum, all types of shit going on. Yeah, that baby is getting punted.
Wait, there's so many babies available for adoption that need a good home. I'm not.
Just going to pick up another one. That baby might get a Gronk spike out of me.
So at what age does the answer change? Does it change a two? Does it change a three for you? Oh, if you're two, then you deal with it like a man. You're out of here if you're two.
So you're just taking your wife every time. I just agree with the lady to where we're gonna make another kid.
Me and my wife are to make another kid. And I'm clipped, see? So I got to keep mine.
I think you got a better chance of finding another wife than you do another baby. Oh, shit.
I'm just saying, you can find another woman that's kind of similar. I see what Pierce Morgan and them be saying about you.
Now that I think about it, they got some points. How long have you been married again? Like a year and a half.'ve been together We've been together like A long time It's fucked up out there When you find the right one It's fucked up You know how hard it is To make a baby? And the older you get No I'm saying How hard is it to make a baby? Not you No You I'm saying for a lot of people The older you get The the harder it is Once you turn 40, your percentage is into 1%

Mark, you got a couple dollars

I don't know what you're talking about

You got a couple dollars

You could be over there checking the boxes off

Like I want this

No, no, no

We can't get a baby

Let's go get a dog

Hey, why ain't gotta be a baby again?

Let's get a cat

We tried that before, it didn't work out. Cat won't be at the boat.
Dog can swim. Right.
Y'all are terrible people. Mel, what would you choose? You gotta ask Mel.
No, no, sorry. Me and Parks are, we have no kids, so we out.
We out. This hypothetical.
I ain't got no 10 month old. Mel ain't saving no man.
Never. Are you crazy? Y'all got my girl Mel fucked up if you think she's saving a man.
No, actually, that's kind of crazy that you would say that. Because exactly to Ice's point, how fucked up it is out there, it would be much easier for y'all to find somebody than it is for me.
Hey, Mel, you the man in Daisy on the boat.

What a victim.

Now who stays?

I'm not a victim at all.

It's tough being beautiful.

It's called a gift and a curse for a reason.

I know you don't know anything about that.

First bar.

Bam!

First bar.

Booyaka, booyaka.

It's a man or Daisy.

No, no, no, no

Daisy can swim

Daisy can swim

Well, not with that dumbass jacket

And Daisy be on the

Right

Fucking meat coat

Wearing a bubble goose

And Daisy would just be so easy to save

I'll just put her on my head

And then, you know, hold on to my man

But if you had to choose between your man and Daisy

No, God, no

There's no choice

There's no choice

We all, you better choose

We're talking about our kids on the line

Traumas don't live for so long anyway

I don't live for so long anyway. All dogs go to heaven.
Somebody might say neither do or men, but, you know. Oh, shit.
I'm just saying, like, relationship-wise, you know what I mean? He could come and go. Daisy's gonna last for a long time.
If you leave, if you save the dude and then he break up with you, she wants save Daisy She don't want to say it I'm mad we even Are spending 10 seconds

On saving Daisy man

If we don't kill Daisy

And go head on

By this damn broadcast

Fucking Daisy

We could probably just

Throw Daisy too

Right

They need to stop coming up

With all these trick ass

Questions for men anyway

Yeah

It was for both

It was for everybody

The women answered it first

The women answered it first

And most of the women

Took their man

Which shocked me

Thank you. ask questions for men anyway.
Yeah. It was for both.
It was for everybody. The women answered it first.
The women answered it first.

And most of the women

took their man

which shocked me.

I thought women

would save their children.

That's how bad it is

out there.

Jesus.

No.

There's just women out there

that love men.

I know that that's shocking too.

No, no, no.

Don't start.

I know that that's shocking too.

No, no, no.

Don't keep that narrative up.

That's like really

that's super fucked up

and I will fight you.

You know?

On the fucking BTS camera.

That's bullshit.

No.

She didn't even sound inspired

when you said that.

You didn't sound inspired at all

when you said that.

No, that is fucked up.

Hey, want to bring up more fights?

High standards.

More shit that

everybody out there fighting over?

Sure.

DDG and Halle Bailey?

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

DDG's got to wait for prospects.

Sorry, sorry, DDG.

I was letting you cook

in case something really hot

came off the press.

But nah, DDG.

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Let's have a little bit of fun. The Relay Girl in Virginia.
I don't know nothing about this, and this is my favorite time of the podcast. This is awesome, Parks.
You got to see this, though. You have to see it.
You do have to see it. Somebody send a little clip.
Yeah. So it was a relay race.
You run around, you pass the baton to the next runner. Sure.
So young ladies running and the girl coming up behind her just took the baton and cold cocked her right in the back of the motherfucking head. Right in.
Oh shit. I'm seeing it.
Right in the fucking noggin. Right in the head.
Right in the head. A couple times.
Yeah. A few times.
Boop, boop, boop. Boop.
But now she's being interviewed. She caught a concussion.
She dropped out of the relay race. That was the funniest part.
But she couldn't run no more. Seeing her flail off to the side.
Like, oh. Nigga, imagine you running and somebody just knocked you upside your fucking head.
Nah, that shit look like the death in Temple Run. Like when you fall off the cliff and like...
Hey, she wasn't in the race no more. Nah.
And this is a high school relay race, right? Yeah. Oh my Lord.
Wait, and then to add insult to injury No pun All pun Then she does an interview Here's the quote Nobody's going to believe me Because I can admit from the video It does look purposeful But I know my intentions And I would never hit anybody on purpose Then she said After a couple of times hitting with a baton. Fair.
Nigga lying. Yeah.

She rocked, Shorty.

So, you're physically hurt,

but you're not thinking of my mental right.

They're going off of one angle.

Just the attacker. My baton got stuck behind her back like this,

and it rolled up her back.

I lost my balance, and when I pumped my arms again,

she got hit. I know my intentions, and I would never hit somebody on purpose.
They're assuming my character, calling me ghetto, racist slurs, death threats, all of this just because of a nine second video. I am here to take up for the attacker.
Wait, what? He's being a shit disturbance. Clearly, she blacked out for a second.
That happens. Sometimes there's a five to six, seven second lapse in time that you can't account for.
Or sometimes you feel strong in your fucking bullshit and you do it and it

takes for you to go back to the dressing room, see the footage and say,

I was wild.

Okay.

That was me.

And I've kind of got some experience with this type of stuff.

So I'm here to tell you the truth about what really happened. She was sleep running.
No, no, no, no, no. But I'm here to tell you the truth.
As someone that comes from the hood, I can tell this attacker girl, this is what happened. The attacker girl asked her to do some shit right before this race.
Whatever we attacking this girl for, it just happened two minutes ago, 90 seconds ago. So we was tying our shoes Getting ready to go out there And the attacker girl must have said something like

Hey girl, can you pass me a water?

And the girl was like, bitch, no

Fuck you. She's like, oh, okay.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah? The attacker girl asked her something simple like, hey, girl, my baton right over there. You think you can throw it to me real quick? And the bitch said something slick out the mouth like we wasn't about the race and now I'm attacking you bow bow bow bow bow yeah don't talk slick to me two minutes ago if I'm gonna be running behind you with the baton able to clock your dumb ass upside the head yeah you know Okay.
Just a preface. You know how many times we've been talking to somebody out in the world and they said something stupid and you thought to yourself, if only I had a little three to five inch metal object right now, slam this lady inside her fucking head.
She just so happened to have it. So I don't think we should be killing her for having it.
I don't. I ain't even killing her for that.
I'm killing her for the response. Yo, what about my mental? And it just looked like that from the video.
No, my nigga, we saw the video. You should go watch the video.
Yeah. That's what I think.
It looks pretty... I think she should go watch the video.
That looks intentional. Nah, show me the video from right before I clocked you.
Own it, though. Show me the video from right before I bust your stupid ass upside the head.
That's going to tell the story. We was in line in the water fountain.
You stayed there for 10 minutes. I said, yo, can I get something to drink? You said slick Alright bitch Now you butter That's high school you said right Yes This shit started over Instagram Or that You know how these niggas get up it up Okay I'm gonna see her Yo the problem This is the problem Y'all kids out there today are too soft.

I come from Nancy Kerrigan, nigga.

Yes, that's right.

Hold up.

Hold up, you know where I come from, nigga?

The ice skate.

In the Olympics.

That's wild.

That's just a regular high school track meet.

Gold medals on the line.

This ain't nothing but a baton.

My bitch had on ice skates

did a cartwheel

tried to

Chun-Li her neck.

She tried to

end her

and homeboy.

End the dude.

Yeah.

That's when

that shit was so fun

back then.

It really was.

That was a good time.

Nancy Kerrigan.

Yo, that was crazy.

I come from

motherfucking

what shorty name that cut the nigga dick off Bob it Bob it Stop it yo I come from When bitches get pissed off They in shit This ain't nothing But a little baton Don't put that back In the air though Don't need them Knowing about that one Yeah well keep my shit Yeah yeah They went and found His dick They did They went and found That nigga. They did.
They went and found it.

That nigga dick was in the bushes.

She threw that shit out the home.

That nigga dick was in the bushes in the woods.

That's crazy.

Put that shit back on ice.

If you cut my dick off, leave it in the house, bitch.

Don't pick my shit up and toss it into the woods.

Yeah, thank God the police found my shit in the fucking bushes.

You know what's funny, right?

Huh? And she probably cut your shit on small. No, right at the base.
I thought it was a thumb. It was a stick.
Come on. Cut the tiny meat.
Cut the tiny meat. I thought I found a belly button in the one.
That's a dick. Yeah, it's just a little baton is all I'm trying to say.
Oh, man. Yeah.
That's all I'm trying to say. Ain't that wrong with a little baton? Yeah.
And when you wait, listen, side note, this don't have nothing to do with this. And when you wake up early in the morning at 3.30 in the morning like me and just start watching and you ain't got no business watching.
I've just been watching random clips of Bill Clinton. That's an interesting choice.
What? Well, because we was talking about the Lorraine and Bobby girl, which led me to some of the things we've seen in the 90s, which was Bill getting his dick sucked in the fucking joint. But that was the reveal.
That was the tell. If you just look at clips of Bill Clinton around women, it's the funniest shit in the world.
And then when you connect that to pizzerias and Hillary, oh my God. Yo, waking up early, it don't do the brain no good.
It don't do the brain no good. Don't sound like it.
Bill Clinton is on some bullshit. And why don't nobody say nothing? I mean, they did.
They tried to impeach him for getting his dicks up. But they got up for, yeah, for the line.
They tried to get up for the line, but they were just mad he was fucking on the top. They know Bill Clinton's name was on damn, y'all know one place to be was Epstein Island.
I know goddamn

well. But I heard.
Bill heard.

Bill used to get busy out there. I mean, I

know two models,

one is pretty well known

that told me

how Bill used to get down.

You know how Bill get down, yo.

The Secret Service started snitching on him.

They used to call Air Force One Air Fuck One.

Oh, shit. Because he would

bring them on the plane.

Thank you. help Bill get down.
The Secret Service started snitching on him. They used to call Air Force One Air Fuck One.
Oh shit. Because he would bring him on the plane.
That sounds right. And it sounds lit.
What the fuck are we talking about? Damn. I guess what else are you going to do? Did they give you any details? There's only one way to compete.
Oh yeah?? I'm just wondering if, like, the BDE was actually BDE.

They didn't tell me that part.

Well, but I... Are you inquiring about if Bill Clinton was home?

It's a logical question, you know, to ask right after hearing that he was, you know, on Air Fuck One.

Yeah, I didn't ask when she told me.

I just thought she might have volunteered the info. Was he hanging? But I feel like women volunteer that when they want you to know that.
That's what I mean. So she didn't say nothing, so that might be a tell in and of itself, but I didn't ask.
She definitely, yeah. I was impressed at Bill, to be honest.
Fucking on Air Force One? This particular model, I was like, damn.

It's depressing.

I was like, damn.

Really?

Yeah, yeah.

Salute?

He had a time.

90s was his era.

You don't say.

All he could do is just die down.

Like, there ain't nothing left.

Got to be tough to go back to the old ball of change.

Right, exactly. Y'all, shit.
So y'all wouldn't wild if y'all was the president no I would hold the dignity of the office no no no no you wouldn't no you wouldn't I would man sure I respect. What position? That's what you would do.
Gotcha. You would respect the position, for sure.
It's a couple different positions. Several bunch of them.
Bunch of them shits. That nigga, Mark, would be in there with his foot on the desk like the insurrection niggas.
Mark would be in there with his dick on the desk. Margaret, that'll be the next season

of Scandal.

Oh, shit.

Oh, shit.

I know I would do

some wild shit

in White House.

Good dog.

I did some wild shit

in just regular House

that was White Pete.

That's my point, yo.

Niggas

would wow the fuck out.

Tell me about it.

Tell me about the time

you fucking snuck

the hostess

of the poker game into a closet while your wife was home or your girl was home. What? That was very specific.
That was outlay? Your house don't got no secret compartments or rooms that it would take your wife about 20 minutes to get to? You can get on right over here. I'm just asking your question.
There's not a basement or an attic or a secret hallway where the previous owner was a photographer so there's a dark room somewhere. Would you just take your wife to at least be able to hear the footsteps coming at 4 a.m.
Why do niggas do it?

Why do people fuck at their house?

Like cheat in their house?

Laziness.

Is it like the thrill of the danger?

Well, where else you're supposed to do?

Probably both.

Hotels, their house, the car, the movies, the bathroom.

Anywhere else.

Anywhere but home.

Literally anywhere.

Right.

Steve Jobs dead at that.

Steve Jobs dead at all that cheating in a hotel shit. That's like an excellent link up.
That's a meet up. Cheating in a hotel is a meet up.
That's like Biker Week. Yeah, that's like Myrtle Beach or some shit.
Cheating in a hotel? I mean, home feels like even worse. Nah.
Alright, I'll take the opposing side. I guess I'm forced yet again.
They keep misrepresenting me. But no, home sounds private.
You safe. You know everything.
You can't pass it over to your cameras. Yeah, yeah.
Home sound like, I mean. That just feels, I mean, yeah, I couldn't imagine.
Feels morally wrong, right? I mean, cheating feels morally wrong to me, but like the house feels like an extra level of disrespect. Like I feel like your partner could get over you cheating.
You cheating like in y'all bed or y'all crib, y'all couch, y'all closet, whatever the fuck it is. Like sound like.
I feel like that would be harder to get. Like if my wife cheated on me in the house, I'd feel worse.
Your partner's not ever supposed to find out that that happened in the house. Or anywhere.
No, no, they could get you for the cheating. In the house? How did they find that out? You dropped the ball somewhere.
You dropped the ball somewhere. It's not you dropping the ball.

Oh, you was fucking a chick with hair?

Makeup on his shoes.

I was fucking a chick on King.

What was that?

A fucking glitter body.

I was fucking cancer patients only, buddy.

Oh, my God.

Hey, the hair coming in this house.

That is dark.

You shitting me?

Hey, cancer patients got good booty, too.

Yo, shit.

What the hell? You shitting me? Cancer patients got good pussy too. Yo.
Shit. Hell.
Hard to come back to that one. I got nothing.
Nothing. Nothing.
Let them go. Is it bad to be turned on by cancer survivors? Oh, my God.
No, they're strong. They're super.
Resilient? They're resilient. They're resilient.
Y'all sick. I just want to say y'all sick.
That shit is sexy, man. And if they kill the caption.
They say, all right, this shit almost took me out. When they ringing the bell, you be like, well look, I won.
Just ball with a few cards. You be like, I would fuck this shit.

You know what?

Forget it.

Forget it.

Nope, never mind.

They need love, too.

They need love, too. They need love.

I thought it was on fire.

You got to bless them.

You got to bless them.

That's bad.

No, I don't think it's bad at all. Then why are y'all getting text I'm saying it's dark it's funny it's dark it's dark it's dark to say can't the survivors be fire yes no I don't think so really but that should be light that should be a beacon of hope oh my oh my oh my oh my don't help you Bart that didn't that didn't kill her let me try she be butting strong I'm leaving this oh that's too far holy shit so listen speaking of fucking you Holy shit.
So listen.

Oh.

Speaking of fucking.

The heir.

The heir of the Hermes estate.

Wants to leave his fortune to the gardener.

So he's thinking about adopting the gardener so that the gardener can be the successor to his $11 billion estate. He is without wife, the heir, not the gardener.
He doesn't have a wife. He doesn't have children, which is why they say he's considering this.
The gardener does have a wife and children. I got to see the yard.
How long have you been fucking? That's his yard. See, man, that's the first thing I thought.
I'm seeing people say, oh, the gardener probably was the only one that treated him like a human, and he was really nice to him. I'm like, he was fucking that dude.
Nah, he was working at E7. Yo.
I'm like, yo, he was busting that gardener. Oh, man.
Oh, my God. Yeah, man.
I'm not leaving nobody $11 billion. And $6 million in real estate.
Houses everywhere. This is the second one of these billionaire dudes that decided to leave The money to the gardener So while y'all Are on to something now We just gonna expose The truth Hey Hey Good bussy Yeah Exactly That's the takeaway Gardener Gardener's got that fire Fuck cancer patients This is the gardener Get shit Salute to the gardener man Why he gotta adopt the gardener Why can't he just give the gardener the money Probably because maybe other members of the family You said he ain't got no Also if he adopts the gardener Wouldn't that fall under a different category in Pornhub? Yeah.
Stepchild.

I mean, I feel like there's a genre there.

Oh, God.

Sub-genre.

You might move it up.

Oh, yeah.

Let's move it up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Move up.

I don't feel like the Gardener can go home and explain that to his wife and kids just

and get the Gardener line off.

I think you can.

I think you can bring $11 billion.

Yeah, she could.

With $11 billion, you can get anything off. You's a fact.
I fucking killed those ledges, baby. I fucking killed the fucking.
Hey, please. 11 billion.
I can go home like, I fucked the Gardner, baby. Here's $11 billion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to go home and just tell the truth.
Right. Fuck it.
I think Gardners might just be fast. If I got a billion dollars and every day I look out my window, you out there looking good.

Sweat glistening all on his body.

Bent over in the bushes.

The sun all out there shining on you.

I mean, look at the sun shining on the garden out there like that.

That's crazy.

Strong hands.

Watching the front yard.

Watching the backyard. At least assuming, too.
The grass start looking greener, the plants growing around you. So you know he good with his hands.
Usually it's the blue boy. And you a cancel survivor.
Nigga, where is my robe? Sometimes you gotta grab the robe and just go outside Like yo What you doing man

What you doing yo

Spark up a conversation

Let's take a break man

Come on

Get your ass up here in this room

Brought you some lemonade

Yeah

Gardner these fucking pubes

Hey

You missed some grass

Sick

Eleven Billy though

Jesus

Wow

Would you fuck your gardener

For eleven Billy

Thank you. You missed some grass.
Sick. 11 billy though.
Jesus. Would you fuck at Gardner for 11 billy? Yes.
Yes. I'll fuck pretty much anything.
As I said, you can insert any word in that space. I don't care.
11 billion? Yes. What would you do? If you had 11 billion, what would you do right now? Whatever fuck I want but what is that but what is that what does it look like now you done fucked the gardener you got gardener saliva all on your shit you didn't shower like you got that 11 billion 11 billion what are you going to do besides shower nigga and shit if the gardener gave you 11 billi,

it ain't over when you get in the shower.

Hey, go ahead and walk up in there.

Pablo Ray from round two.

Definitely got to wash your back. Mm-hmm.

For a couple of times.

Yo.

The gardener putting it down, too. The garden will bust his ass.
He's putting it down. We terrible.
Absolutely horrible. How did we get here? I don't know.
Do y'all think there's a such thing as, and then we can find something else to talk about instead of letting my ignorant brain bleed where the part is going. Do y'all think there's such a thing as, like, death guilt? you're the air dude and you got all this money.
You've been busting the gardener ass for 60 years. 60 years straight.
No kids, no wife, just gardener ass. What's wrong still with just dying on the good looking tip? Or you could be somewhere in the middle right you could be like a little bit you could be like one billion you did this thing while I was on earth but leaving them eleven billion yeah that's a lot from what I read it was something where it's like a something if he just were to pass the money would go to like in some foundation or he didn't want it to do that.
So it's like this is my way of controlling where it go. That's spite.
Yeah. A lot of niggas do that though.
A lot of them niggas have I don't want to what show am I watching? Oh fuck. Anything on Zeus like a thought.
I am watching everything on Zeus. I'm not gonna hold you.
I'm heavy on the Zeus channel. What you watching? Milky the Plumber? What's his name? What's my man's name to keep fighting anybody that WAC 100 just got into some shit with? Oh, Aaron the Plumber.
Aaron the Plumber. Milky.
Milky the Plumber. As fuck as you want.
He's back on that current shit. Joe just going to fuck his whole staff.
Word. Boy, whoa.
You working his house staff. Yeah, yeah.
Clear that up. I wouldn't do that.
Power dynamics. That's fair.
I don't know if it's still power dynamics if you gave him 11 Billy. Now he's got power.
I was about to say. Pablo got the power.
He'd be paying for that. But nah, it's people be trying to like find ways to I don't want it to go here so let me find a way to circumvent that.
By giving it to the gardener, though? Nah, I see people left the fucking money to their cat. Facts.
Yeah. And their dogs.
Yeah, that's why I'm doing some male shit. 100%.
A male do something stupid like that. Oh, it's a day thing.
For a long living everlasting life. For the record, no, I wouldn't.
Just saying, these are the people in my family that will get the stuff. Do y'all want to talk about...
Hold on, just to clear it up. He has, it was a succession agreement that he had with a charity that he established in 2011.
So if he don't have any... Any heirs.
Yeah, any heirs, then it goes to them. Oh, so he ain't got no choice.
Now he's like, fuck that charity. Yeah, I got it.
Yeah, it's not going to this charity. Let me...
All right, cool. How bad must you hate the charity to want to give all $11 billion to your gardener? A lot.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Unless he made some deal with the gardener, like I'm going to give it to you and then you distribute it the way I want it to.
Yeah. That's probably what it is.
And he's leaving them half of the... Fortune.
Fortune. Damn.
Do y'all have gardeners? I don't. No, I don't have a gardener.
I got a gardener. He don't live there, but I got a gardener.
Okay. Luis.
Just coincidentally. You fucking racist.
shout out to Luis Luis huh Luis he was the best qualified for the job he had a fat ass didn't he that's what it was so nasty what background is he I don't know I didn't't ask. Do y'all we got to talk about Odell and Odell and Drewski.
Come on. We've had enough fun with the Gardner and the Cancer Survivor.
Shout out to y'all. Y'all do be looking good.
And I'm feeling low here. Like bald.
You like bald? What? I'm a sucker. If they can blow off the bald, absolute sucker for bald, Caesar, low hair on a woman that's already sexy.
I love you. You like it too? Different confidence.
Different level of... Yeah, but I...
The bald was never my thing. Not even in the Jeanne era? Never my thing.
What about like the half bulb?

I don't want to just be and then feel the same shit as mine.

Wait a minute.

What about like the Rihanna Cassie half bulb?

Hold up for a second part. Just so we're clear,

her head is not

going to feel like yours. Help me.

Help me.

If you met a girl

and her head

feels like yours

you shouldn't be with that shit

she's smart

and yes

I would be with her

I told y'all

I ain't been back

to the strip club

since my little

bald headed girl

started buying wigs

yeah that would turn me off

my little bald

bald stripper

I used to speak so highly of

she's still fine

she's still fine

even with the wig

but

she's not the same

I went in with my girl

after hyping up the bald girl

Thank you. bald stripper I used to speak so highly of she's still fine still fine even with the wig but it's not the same I went in with my girl after hyping up the bald girls you gonna come out with a wig I'm like bitch this is not what now you just look like the rest of them that shit is sexy wonder what her money did huh wonder what her money did her money might have went like everybody not really it's a smaller market for that everybody not with the ball So maybe her putting a wig on Might have More people would have been with it Yeah but I spent more than that So like Amber Rose You ain't like Amber Rose Amber Rose I didn't even know had a head That don't count Fair enough Thank you See so it does count See Amber Rose And her views I don't care What views What What I remember the day Them things leaked Oh niggas went to work I ain't gonna lie I ain't gonna lie to you Come on now I ain't gonna lie to you Niggas was thereas was there.
Niggas went to work. I called one for sure.
I was there for that. Respectful.
Salute. Yo, do women do that, Mel? What? Like, what we saying with Amber, like, when her shits dropped, like, niggas went to work.
Like, has a dude shit ever dropped And then y'all went to work I Can't necessarily speak for myself But I'm sure Yeah What's your group chat be saying Yeah put it on someone else Yeah I mean Yeah y'all ain't see the Mufasa vid drop and go run to a closet?

No.

No, you would have needed to see more.

So which one did you see that made you do it?

Me? I said I didn't do it. But your home, your group chat.

Oh, yeah, your group chat.

Yeah, somebody else.

Yeah, somebody else.

You're like, oh, shit, such and such.

I'm about to go get the rose.

You know, Chris Brown's pictures

kind of had women, you know, little... Going to work.
Yeah, probably, yeah. Was that age program? You can't do that, Mel.
I mean, how old was he at the time? Wasn't he like in his 30s? Like early 30s? You're going to jail. He's trying to trip you up.
He's trying to trip you up, yo. And again, I did not.
Again, I did not.

Oh, was it her?

Yes.

Someone in the group chat.

It's the group chat.

Exactly.

It's a sin to rest.

Group chat.

But yeah.

The girls start telling themselves.

Start naming some college players and shit.

She said Chris Brown. Go ahead That he was That he was Druskin Oh yeah Oh yeah Serious matter Oh yeah Serious matter I don't feel like I need to talk On serious matters When Mark is here Hey Mark take it away Yeah I feel like That's a Mark thing They both issued a statement And if Mel is there in support, take it away.
You break it down. You break it down.
Listen, I'll just read what they each had to say and then we can proceed to, you know, converse about that. This is Drewski's statement.
Statement about what? What happened? So they've been named in... By a Jane Doe.

By a Jane Doe.

Yeah, in Puff lawsuits.

These fucking Jane Doe's is getting it done right now.

Yeah.

So Drewski said,

This allegation is a fabricated lie.

I wasn't a public figure in 2018.

I was broke living with my mom without any connections to the entertainment industry at the time of this allegation.

So the inclusion of my name is truly outlandish. Good choice of words.
My heart breaks for actual victims of abuse, but I'm fully confident that the evidence will expose this falsehood and the individuals who are maliciously trying to game the legal system to peddle false narratives. And the narrative is that Beckham, Drewski, Diddy, singer rapper, I don't know if she's a rapper, singer, Jaguar Wright, among others.
This is a dozen people. This is a wild, three-snap.
That's a wild energy right there. That they all, these Jane, they had Puff Moms, man.
Oh, shit. These Jane Doe journals.
Crazy. They threw Jaguar in the mix.
Yeah, they threw Jagging, which is interesting.

Which is where I always check out.

I check out at any site

of Jaguar rights, name,

likeness, or anything.

What Eric Hughes of kidnapping, drugging,

and assaulting multiple

individuals after allegedly

Diddy heard her saying that she believed that

he was involved in the murder of Tupac.

So basically,

the idea is

Diddy thinks he heard she said something about Tupac

All right. Diddy heard her saying that she believed that he was involved in the murder of Tupac.
So basically, so the idea is, Diddy thinks he heard she said something about Tupac.

So he assembled Drewski, Odell Beckham, the Justice League of Avengers.

And they all assaulted this woman, two Jane Doe's and another woman, whose name I won't say, but her name is listed on the court document court document. I don't want to do a whole bunch of laughing.
Y'all don't believe Jane Doe? I'm going to say that it sounds pretty preposterous. It does.
It just sounds pretty preposterous. We're not laughing at the matter.
No. We're laughing at the specifics.
The specifics are fucking wild. Me being shady.
What Drewski said, I like that little, you know what I mean? Like, we don't want to. He said, my heart breaks for actual victims of abuse, but I am fully confident that the evidence will expose this falsehood.
Blah, blah, blah. We don't want to hear Drewski's response because that's what made shit believable.
Okay, what about Odell? Get to Odell. I got you.
Odell was like, say word that my name is in this shit. Boy, I'll tell you what.
This world makes absolutely no sense. I am covered by God.
He will prevail. I know who I am.
I know who you are. Keep your head.
That name will be cleared. Shit's stupid.
Odell, get a publicist, my nigga. Word.
I'm not going to hold you. That's a terrible response.
Take your Bitcoin salary.

He went and did the Bitcoin shit, right? He did.

He did.

Take 10 Bitcoin Satoshis and go get you a fucking publicist so you cannot sound like

this, Odell.

Yeah, I bet.

Because you the one need a publicist.

Because if my brain is good to going.

No, no, no, stop.

Drewski.

All right. That's my man.
I have to leave him. I don't see it.
I don't see it. My imagination is great enough to insert Odell.
Whoa. Whoa.
That was the pause of the year, bro. That was egregious.
I mean, I wasn't finished, but... Oh! It's a hostile work environment now, man.
Goddamn. As I was saying, insert Odell in some fucking story.
Smarty fans. But yeah, that was egregious.
I got it. That was wild.
Odell, get a publicist, man. What did Jack Rowan write episode? She hasn't responded.
I don't know. I was shocked.
That's the one I want to hear. Yeah, I want to hear that.
Did y'all read the complaint? No, sir. It went into detail what took place.
And it said like. Oh, yeah, Drewski was using the girls like a slip and slide, right? Jumping on top of her with the baby.

Stop!

We can't laugh at this, Parks.

But yes,

he jumped on her

and used her as a slip and slide.

I don't believe that Drewski did that.

I don't believe it just...

I don't believe any of this happened.

Logistically,

I just don't see how that can physically happen.

Yo, it's him.

So y'all laughing at the Jane Doe?

Y'all are not laughing.

Mel and Mark?

Y'all laughing at the Jane Doe?

No, we're laughing at the Jane Doe.

Parks' reaction.

I'm laughing at Parks.

We not believe in all women?

Mental image is insane.

Ice, continue, please.

Is there any more to it?

No, that was what's...

That was the most ludicrous part.

What was Jaguar doing?

I don really bad. We're at a moment now where there's a feed-in frenzy because Diddy has so many cases and so many charges and there are a lot of lawyers, unscrupulous lawyers, who are just throwing everything at the wall hoping that people will be so afraid of having their name in the news that they'll pay to not have their name in the news and i think more people are coming forward and saying i'm not i'm not going with that there are a lot of women out there and men who are assaulted who are harmed and i hate that stories like this get the attention and not the ones that are actually legitimate and plausible.

And for me, in this case, it's not even that

I don't believe the Jane Doe's. I don't even know if there are

Jane Doe's. A lot of these lawyers make up people.

They literally manufacture people

to make a case hoping that they can get paid.

So, you know, I hope the truth

comes out and it prevails, but this is not a good thing.

I ain't gonna hold you. I watched a lot

of Scandal when that show was out. This shit looked like a play out of Olivia Pope's playbook to me.
What's the strategy? If I'm Puff? Oh, you think it's a Puff strategy? Oh, got it. Just keep throwing a bunch of bullshit out there and let it happen.
Keep signing executive orders. That's another reverse card.
That is a reverse card. I'm just saying, this is a great play.
Not saying he did it, but if you were... Shady bitches existed before this Puff trial came about.
I'm talking about if I'm on trial and there's some shit that I did, let me get a bunch of this bullshit out there and when people start to see, okay, that's bullshit, now you might start to question everything and this helps his case. Damn.
Yeah, that's the idea. That is a legitimate strategy.
I don't know if it's Puff's strategy. Yeah, I'm not saying it, but...
But it does cast out, and that's the thing. Oftentimes when people are accused of egregious crimes and lots of them, it makes the...
Juries find it hard to imagine that it's true because they don't believe this Mike could conceivably do 100 things. If you did three things, but we got 20 cases here, and 15 of the 20 are complete bullshit, like you could just see through it.
After a while, you're like, all right, I see what's going on here. All of these are bullshit.
And that's the thing, it raises doubt in people's minds. it'll raise doubt.
It'll be interesting when a trial, and look, we six weeks away from a trial. Let me throw a bunch of fake rape cases my way to help me be.
Because they're getting. That's bold.
Because if they're debunked before we even go to trial. Then I can start to say, yo, it's just all been bullshit.
I think that takes too much of the onus off of shady bitches and shady lawyers. And I think we have enough years of seeing shady bitches and shady lawyers go to work

and not enough be done

when we actually find out

that it's people being shady.

That's true.

There needs to be a law changed.

Absolutely.

There needs to be something changed

so that something is done

and these people are handled differently.

Agreed.

Do I believe that Drewski and Odell

and these people,

do I believe this?

No, I don't. Let me just stick with Drewski because I really don't believe it about him do i believe any of this about drewski absolutely not is it gonna matter when he when his innocence is fucking proven absolutely not it's not gonna matter at all just somebody searching the name drewski right now and seeing some of this bullshit from a j Doe is impactful.
That's enough. Yeah, that's more than enough.
You're talking about somebody who had two commercials running in two bowl. You're talking about somebody who's at the peak prime of his career.
And going up. Just the allegation, just the lie, because I believe it's a lie.
That lie is hurtful. That that lie is enough even when disproven is enough to get companies the damage still be done yo dog the risk is not worth the reward i'm stepping away from this and i don't think that's fair it's not i don't think that's fair there needs to be some type of a a false allegation false accusation law or something that's there needs to be there is there are there are are.
Then they need to update it. Or they need to start enforcing it.
They don't enforce it is the issue. It needs to be enforced.
And it's not just for sexual assault. It's for everything.
But I think part of the issue is we live in a society that doesn't believe women and doesn't believe survivors in general, men or women, but particularly doesn't believe women. And I think people are reluctant to add more to the pile that will discourage people from coming forward when they are assaulted and when they are harmed that's the other side of that is that i agree if you're lying you should be held accountable but there's a lot of people who aren't lying who still get called liars and if there's more laws and more intimidation and more threats against those people then they're going to be even more afraid to stand up and speak out so that's the the thing.
See, I think even that is part of the problem. That muddies the waters.
We're not talking about actual victims and the fear that they have with coming forward and people not believe it. But unfortunately, let me land.
We're talking about people that it's proven in this Jay Z case recently. They say TMZ didn't say that.
Other people said we have evidence that says this girl conspired with Tony Busby to come up with this plot case closed we're not talking about leaving it leaving it open for what you think and open for interpretation we're talking about when it's a clear proven fact that this person is lying on somebody there needs to be penalties I with you. I'm saying the downside of that is that if you start enforcing that law or there's a sense that that law is going to be enforced, witnesses and victims get intimidated all the time.
And that becomes another tool that the other side will use. Powerful people will say, well, if you come forward, I'm going to make you look like a liar.
I'm going to call the police on you and you're going to go to jail. They do it all the time.
Especially in these cases where it's difficult to prove. I get that.
To begin with. I guess what I'm, yeah.
You're saying when it's open and shut, but that gets. I'm saying when it's open and shut.
Right. What you're saying, it's not that, but it still has implications.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying. I get it.
I get it. Mm-hmm.
Man. But that slip and slide is wild.
And also. But until they do something about it, we're not going to stop seeing this.

That's true.

And just because you mentioned that Jay-Z accuser,

there's another statement that came out after that

where she says they asked her to sign an affidavit

saying her claims are false and she refused.

And she's doubling down that

I didn't conspire with him and this happened.

Got it.

So they're going back and forth with that.

And she has to because if she doesn't

do that, then she gets prosecuted.

So she

rather look like a he said, she said, then she loses

than look like, okay, I admit I lied.

Because with Jay-Z's resources and the public

attention, if she says, yeah, I conspired,

the next step is she's getting prosecuted.

Perjury, fraud, all those

things.

Nasty. It's disgusting, bro.
Yeah, I hate it. Because how do you avoid that? Like, that's what I was thinking when the story broke.
When the story broke, I was like, what an interesting concoction of people to put in a story. Like, give me Odell, Jaguar, Drewski.
Like, I wouldn't have even scripted this. It was like he just looked at her algorithm.
Right. And he's all people like, yeah, yeah.
Just said, okay. That's rough.
After the Super Bowl, like you said, Drewski's been in two commercials. He's up.
Name is everywhere now. You Google Diddy, sexual assault, Jaguar's gonna come up.
I mean, it literally feels like just a mishmash of people. Yeah.
And I know Jaguar wasn't involved in it. I am confident that Jaguar wasn't involved in anything, as confident as I am with Drewski, for whatever reason.
You know, just because I know who people mix with and who people don't. And when you look at the time period of 2018, it just doesn't add up.
I mean, Odell would say he's never even been in that part of California before. And I think Drewski said the same thing.
It's just, I don't know, a lot of it looks like it's just a mess. You're not inviting Jack Walt Wright to the same freak-off you invited Odell to.
Yeah. Not that part.
Sorry. Respectfully.
Or. I mean, yeah, respectfully.
Niggas just made their freak-offs. Oh, my God, man.
It's over. Freak-off off at your own risk you can't even do it the flyway no more we done got lost track of what the flyway is with consent yeah yeah and leds let me tell you consent leds should come up with a list Real quick Look at y'all You can have that bro

Look at y'all

You was there

I wasn't at your

You was there

No I was not

You was there

Yes you was

Yes you were there Ice

See when they talk about the lie

Ice you were 100%

I don't know who to believe

Ice was there

Ice was always at the freak off

How'd you know

It was going to be a freak off

To avoid it

Thank you. 100% fabricated.
Ice was there. Ice was always at the freak off.
How'd you know it was going to be a freak off to avoid it? I wasn't there. The LED lights.
But didn't he install them? Tell him about the New Year's Eve party. Oh, dang.
You back to that installation joke? You back to that installation joke? It was a good callback. He's installing the LEDs.
Now I'm doing the LEDs. Yo, tell them about the New Year's Eve party, what you was doing.
What I was doing? It was a party. We was having fun at a party.
That wasn't a freak off. That started out a freak off issue.
Yes, it was. It was New Year's.
He was installing TVs. Yeah, it worked.
Everybody I wanted to watch the ball drop, I had to get the ball drop. Whoa.

Whoa.

Whoa.

Whoa.

I'll pay that one.

I'll pay that one.

I'll pay that one.

But yeah, I had to get the TV working, so you know, that's it.

Then the ball dropped.

That's cool, Frieza.

That's it, man.

I won't tell anybody else.

I wasn't at it.

But you was there.

It's not wrong being there as long as it's consent.

Yeah.

You never been to a freak off?

No.

You know how me went and locked himself in the bathroom for four hours.

That nigga locked himself in the bathroom for five hours.

He's on his Game Boy.

Yep.

Playing Call of Duty.

That nigga Helmy pulled something off to the side and got missing right for the night.

See y'all in the morning.

Big Helmy.

I don't remember this. I don't know what you're talking about.
Those are the best nights, man. Anyway, want to talk about Nelly? What Nelly do? I want to talk about Nelly's ex.
Why we never talking about that? Nelly's ex. I don't even want to get them.
When the exes do that, I don't even want to get them no like. Wait, what happened? Nelly's ex I don't even want to get when the exes do that I don't even want to get them no like wait what happened yeah my head Nelly's ex said when I broke up with Nelly I did so thinking that the space the time and the distance would bring us closer together and maybe he would spin the block and we would be tighter he did he spun the block he just turned right he spun right.
He spun a different block. Let's think about spinning.
Got Ashanti pregnant and married her. Yep.
So, yeah. L.
Hold your L. X has got to learn to hold the L's.
Word. Like, why are you even speaking on him? Happy, happily married.
Was this a recent post? This was recent. Oh, okay? This was recent.
I know she was saying something. She's been saying something.
Every time she pop up, it's because she's talking about him. Don't do that while I'm in my happiest.
Don't do that, period. Go get happy.
How about that? I can understand the first time that she made the statement. It was like, you know, I'm sure she was inundated with a lot of people saying something.
So she wanted to perhaps give some clarity. Now, marriage, kid born, abort mission.
Abort mission. Go find you some happiness.
I got my simple, very simple rules. When you have an ex that is now engaged Or married Shut the fuck up You're done now Speaking about that relationship Out of respect But unfortunately When that's all that will get you posted You gotta hold to that.
That's what happened.

Because she could go talk about anything else.

We wouldn't be up here talking about it.

That's true.

But back to Nelly.

Oh, yeah.

What else happened?

So Nelly was up there.

He was saying that basically...

Was he drink champs, right?

Yeah, drink champs.

He was saying that basically

his daughters are always allowed back home. No matter what.
No matter how old they are, y'all can come back home. He was like, sons, you know, some having hard times, whatever.
You can come back home, couch for a couple days, but that's it. You got to get up and go get it after that.
That's ridiculous. I will give my take after I hear you guys' take so I know which take to give it's one of those oh I mean I believe you should be like that for all your kids period thousand percent which way they all can come back or they all can't come back no no no they all can come back and I'm not with the kicking y'all out the house and that whole alright now you're 18 you gotta go be your own person and go survive in this fucked up world.
I'm not with that. And if you out there 20, 30, 40, I don't care, and you need to come back home, bring your ass back home.
I think some kids should come home and some kids shouldn't. But it's not gendered for me.
It's just like some kids, I know need a kick in the ass. Like I came home, when I dropped out of college I came home and my mom gave me like December, January, February she said you gotta get a job or get out.
Then when I got the job she was like you got till June. I got the job in February by May I was out.
Because she knew that I needed that. She knew that if I stayed around and did nothing, I was going to keep doing nothing.
I got another sibling who was there until two years ago. You know what I'm saying? That's hate a little bit.
All right, go ahead. I'm sorry.
I hate this. No, that was definitely hate.
I got another sibling. I got kicked out, but this nigga got a stain.
I got this other sibling nigga I'm related to that just said two ago grown ass nigga alright my bad fair enough I hate me to make it sound like that but not to get all heavy with it but I remember before my dad died I asked him I had hired my brother to do something for me my dad said I always worried that he would be fuck you I'm talking about what my dad said on his deathbed damn but before i know what he said i'm laughing you do this shit because you said yo i hired my brother to do something and then my dad so i have this voice of the older black parents on their deathbed saying you better better take care. You better take care, little Danny.

That's basically what he said.

You know, let me not say,

because he might watch this at some point.

But I'll just say,

what my parents expressed was that they had concerns

that some of us, if they didn't go the right way,

could end up homeless,

could end up out on the street.

And so I used to not understand that

until I became a parent.

You was on the wrong route.

Me? A little bit. A little bit.
You got yourself together. You got to figure this shit out.
But like, no, but the point is like some kids you know will be okay. Some kids you really worry about like this kid ain't going to be okay.
Some kids are going to fail. And you can see it from early.
Yeah five. Deadass.
I'm just being a dick, but it's true. It's true.
I got some cousins and nephews I know I'm going to be taking care of at 28. Dog, we got it.
We had a little cousin. And this is fucked up.
We should not say this about kids, but my whole family knew by maybe four years old, he was going to jail. And guess what? You can see that.
Guess what? He's in jail. That's what my dad said about my brother.
Exactly. We knew it.
They was building it for him. Damn.
Yeah. And it's bad, but it's the truth.
That's it. So as a parent, if you know, if you see that for your kid and you're like if I keep them in this house at least they'll have food clothing and shelter I'll be okay and I said to my mom you need to put him out if he's homeless he's homeless you know at some point he gotta stay on his own too she said yeah but if he doesn't I don't want that guilt she said I'm only gonna be around another 15-20 years the fuck wait for me to die then you put him on you do that when I'm going.
I don't want that guilt. And it sounded fucked up but then fuck Joe.
Joe. I mean, yo, am I hearing this shit differently than the rest of y'all? What? Because y'all just going along with it.
I'm going to let him get fucked up. What did I say? What did I say? I said something fucked up? I mean, yeah.
Oh, to put him out partially. If a nigga is 45 at home.
Oh, shit, I could hear how you was telling your dad no. Yo.
Yo, I ain't going to hold you. It's creeping out.
I could hear exactly the tone in that talk with dad. You ain't fucking looking out for Frazier.
If he homeless, then he homeless. Get him the fuck out of here, pop.
Come on now. And you was clearly headed down like a doctor path.
You was looking good. By that point.
Come on, man. You can't do that.
But if you know Fra... My thing is, I believe Frazier could be anything anything But I think y'all coddling him By protecting him Because y'all so scared He's not And they're like We know him better than you And that's the thing I didn't learn Until I got older Is maybe I didn't know What the fuck I was talking about Yeah parents know Their kids too now Yeah You know your kid Your kid ain't gonna make it You know Yeah Them kids are special Or not Right Now you know Parents on their deathbeds Boy And that's the other thing yo We ain't respected enough Coming up but Parent rent I was rebellious Against that Yeah Joey give me a minute Put something toward this rent now A little $50 A little $70 $70, a little $100.
She was grateful for whatever. Right.
And we wasn't paying. And we had a problem with that.
Yeah, we wasn't paying that shit. That parent rent.
I paid my shit. Nah, I had a problem.
Parents, I tell you, pick a bill. Light bill, phone bill.
You paying something. Holy shit, yo.
This is too funny. Can your kids come home with you? Come home to you whenever they want? Yeah For as long as they want? I'm gonna say yeah Okay Because parenthood is a lifetime job I mean especially though If you have the means It's not like you're living in a one bedroom apartment anymore When we're talking about Nelly or Joe Or something like that If I was I would just give just give my kid a crib.
If I was, Park. I'm living with me.
What's the other option? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I was with some family and I was asking about some cousins that I haven't seen in a long time.
Like 20 some odd years. I'm like, yo, what's up? What's such and such? And they was like, yo, man.
Yeah, he over on such and such doing, he getting high now and he doing this and it's like not saying you could prevent it but if you could at least try and his parents they just washed their hands with him and now he just out here so nah I would I would go through everything I would try everything before that I don't care if I had't care if I'm living in a studio apartment and you need, hey, nigga, you pick us out. We're going to figure it out.
Figure it out. I'm with that.
I just feel like sometimes the thing you think is going to make them better is, I'm saying do whatever will make your kid better, but sometimes we think bringing them in does that. And it enables us.
It's enabling them. That's all I'm saying.
So when Pop left the house and you and your brother's name, you kept it like that, right? You didn't go take your homeless brother to court? So they only left it in two of the three. There's three of us that they both have and they left it in two of our names.
Frazier didn't get it. It wasn't Frazier's name.
See, they knew. They iced him out the game.
They knew. They knew.
They iced him out the game. Damn, Frazier.
I gave him his money, though. Good for you.
Like I said, I don't do people dirty, but... Like I said, I don't do people dirty, but...
Like I said, I don't do some kick rock shit, right? Hey, hey, hey. Hey, we done never want you again.
All right, now take this and go. Now that daddy gone.
You better make it last. Don't you show your ass on me again.
I was about to say, yeah. Mark, were you worried that he was going to spend it immediately? Let me say this.
I'm sorry. I didn't give it to him.
I have it. He's in prison, so I can't give it to him, but it's in a...
Trust. It's in an account form.
Oh, shit. Maybe I...
I think that's commendable. Mark is a piece of shit.
I got your money, but I'm going to hold on to... What do you mean to do? I'm going to hold it right and shit, yo.
What are you going to mail it to him? Wait, do you? What are you going to mail it to him?

Your vocabulary is too extensive

to be stuck on the words you're using.

I put money in his books every week

and I don't take it out of the money.

I don't take it out of that money.

I was about to ask

if you take his books money

out of his account.

I could, but I don't.

Mel, can you stop asking

serious questions right now, please?

I mean, no.

We ain't trying to joke.

I'm there with you.

How much money for those books?

The max you can do every three days is $300.

So I do like $500 a week.

So you don't do the max?

No.

No.

Nope.

But I also send them sneakers.

I'm like, you need sneakers.

Hey, brother.

I send them sneakers.

I send them books.

I just bought them a TV.

I wasn't around for y'all upbringing, man.

I don't know.

You should handle them how you want to handle them.

I put a lot of money on them books, man. Holy shit.
Niggas start getting entitled, though, man. I know.
My fucking, my older brother views money different than me and always has. So my mom knows that.
It's a thing.

Like, I'm mad generous with it.

I don't care.

Oh, here, card, money to take, whatever,

shirt off my bag.

Yeah, that ain't my brother.

He's sweet.

So if you need something done,

he'll show up.

He's sweet in action.

Yeah, in action,

he do all the shit that I don't do.

So she got a good balance.

Good, good.

But in terms of money,

Scrooge,

he's keeping it.

Thank you. The action, he do all the shit that I don't do.
So she got a good balance. Good, good.
But in terms of money, Scrooge, he was keeping it.

And he keep getting raises, too.

Oh, wow.

And my mom keep getting set up.

Hey, now that you got that raise, you're like, hell no, get your ass the fuck out of here.

He downplayed the heart?

He's got need new glasses.

No, he's adamant.

Oh, he don't downplay it? No, not at all. He said, oh, now I got to call my mom.
Because now I'm talking behind her back. Hell no, he don't downplay it.
I've seen that one before. No.
I've seen that one before. The glasses work just fine.
Stand closer. Oh, shit, stand closer.
No, that's funny. That's fucked up though.

Let me see if she

answer real quick.

Because I'll get in trouble

with talking about my family

behind her back.

And she listens to the bar.

Hello?

Hey mom, I'm on air.

Oh, hi.

I'm telling them

about how Varon

is stingy with money

and I'm not.

Varon said that that's how he was 20 years ago. Varan said what? He's not stingy.
He used to be 20 years ago. Okay, but we know the truth.
I know, but we're looking through a different lens. We're looking through a different lens.
Oh, wait. Is she doing that shit? Don't protect her.
Don't protect her because we're on here, bossy. But we are on air.
Don't protect her because we're on air. That's right.
I have two sons that I love. There you go.
That's right, Miss May. Hey, I'm going to hang up and tell the truth.
I have two sons that I love immensely, and my son says he used to be cheap 20 years ago. All right.
Do you think he's cheap? I'll take the fifth. That's all we need to do.
Okay, but we're different in that regard. Hallelujah.
Thank you, God. Oh, man.
All right, fine. My mom got me back on the right route, so I ain't going to keep my brother back in.
All right. Right.
All right, bye. Later, Miss May.
Bye. Bye.
So anyway, it was time for my mom. That ain't coming true.
It was time for my mom to get some of her affairs in order. I said, so you going to trust him with any money after you go? And she said she loves us both.
And that she loves us both. Got it.
Sometimes you got to talk to your parents. Have the truth conversation.
You boy boy oh boy yo yo Mark let Frazier have it holy shit Frazier you ain't have a chance Frazier deserved it holy shit Frazier didn't have a shot in hell yeah oh my god yo god god damn damn. Anyways.
Alright, what else is funny, not funny, important, unimportant? I can't believe you tried to throw postpartum on Nellie Vittardo. I mean...
She did have postpartum. That's true.
That just don't address what we were saying. Yeah, that's all.
It kind of does, though, a little bit. No, it don't.
And that's the problem. When a guy is saying this person is off her marbles, that's wrong for y'all to assume we're saying that because she's on postpartum.
No, we recognize the postpartum. No, I think that there was not a recognition of her being postpartum.
It was just somebody just calling her fucking crazy. And I'm like, there might be a legitimate reason for it like a chemical imbalance so she's crazy so you saying what the fuck I said I am not do y'all care about Mark wasn't here for LeBron Stephen A conversation that we had but then footage came out of LeBron Keek-Keon with Richard Jefferson after the event, where he was basically like, yeah, Stephen A getting up there and saying, LeBron, I'm talking to you as a father was the last straw for me.
That changed a lot for me. I was about to say, when we were having a conversation, I felt like some people really weren't all the way aware of everything steven a has been saying once you once yeah that changed a lot for me that that as a father part because now you're not speaking on him you're not even speaking on brawny as an athlete you're not critiquing him as an athlete you're critiquing him as my son and my parenting like i'm asking you as a father father to not allow him to play and all of this stuff.

I think LeBron was nice.

Yeah,

yeah,

in that sense.

He was nice.

I remember the morning

where that episode

of First Take aired.

I was getting dressed,

I want to say maybe

for work even

and when Stephen A

got into that

and I get content creation

and building suspense,

but he did too great

of a job at it

for what led, I mean, for what followed. He was like, LeBron, as a father, man, I got kids, I got kids.
As a dad, honestly, it's time to... And I stopped and looked at the TV like, hey, that was heavy for whatever basketball conversation you have coming right now.
It's a lot. Yeah, you can't do that.
LeBron was nice. Can't do that shit.
So I agree that LeBron had every right to confront Stephen A. And I didn't want Stephen A to criticize Bronny on the father-son tip.
You can just criticize him as a basketball player the way every other GM and coach has

who has that position.

That's the side that I was on.

Yeah.

Do we never, though, say to somebody,

hey, you're making a bad choice as a parent?

I mean, for example, when LeVar Ball,

and he turned out to be right,

but when LeVar Ball took LaMelo out of high school

and put him overseas,

lots of people said that's unfair.

You're trying to make your kid a pro

instead of focusing on his education.

Are we allowed to say that?

Are we allowed to tell parents

who are in the public parenting

Thank you. and put him overseas.
Lots of people said that's unfair. You're trying to make your kid a pro instead of focusing on his education.

Are we allowed to say that?

Are we allowed to tell parents who are in the public parenting

that they're making bad choices as parents?

No.

Ever.

You can't,

who are you to say that that's a bad choice?

I mean,

you have to say that

when all arrows point to it being a bad choice.

Like, that was the thing about Stephen A to LeBron. You saying as a father with all of this build up to somebody who's been the example, who's been in his kid's life his entire life.
The kid ain't out there robbing and carjacking and stealing. You talking about a kid who's in the NBA? What's that? Who just almost died college with the hardship.
Yeah, yeah. Don't tell me as a father.
Don't tell me what to do as a dad. I'm the only dad that's ever been in this position in the entire history of the league.
Facts, yeah. You can't talk to me about that.
Now, if the decision is bad, even with the LeVar bullshit, like my son is going to play overseas. He's going to forego his college, yada, yada, yada, yada.
Like if you're telling me something's going wrong there, that's an opinion. It's not rooted in, again, my son is a murderer.
My son is stabbing people. My son is drugged out.
My son has a gambling problem. My son is, yeah, and there's too many times where this has come up with Stephen A specifically.
Like you mentioned LeVar Ball. We mentioned fucking LeBron.
There was another instance where this happened. I have to jog my memory.
But even with the LeVar Ball shit, I don't care. Can't nobody say you're making a bad decision as a parent.
You can't tell him that. That's my thing.
You can't tell me as a parent you're doing this wrong. I got two and a possible in the league.
I disagree with that part. I got two and a possible in the league and a possible as a record deal.
Yeah. We should trust his judgment at this point.
But what I'm saying is, and again, I fully agree with LeBron and what he did and I fully disagree with Stephen A.

I'm just saying

there are moments

where I don't accept

the rule that we just

should never criticize

people's parenting.

That's all I'm saying

because I think there are times

where we should.

Listen,

we are you to criticize

somebody's parenting.

Give an example

of a time

where it's applicable

to criticize somebody's parents.

We black people,

so every other day

in the wintertime, we see a white... Put a coat on that baby.
Yeah. Put a coat on that baby.
We do that. So every other day in the wintertime,

we see a white...

Put a coat on that baby.

Yeah.

Put a coat on that baby.

We do that every...

Put a coat on that baby.

It's too cold for that baby

to be out here without a coat.

That is parental criticism.

Valid.

Stage parents...

We tend to call them stage moms,

but really stage parents

often exploit their kids.

Right?

They often...

Or try to live through... Yeah, yeah.
And we criticize the shit shit out of that and i don't think that's unfair or unreasonable to but you can't tell them you're making a bad decision but the criticism that's all you could just be like you might be pushing that kid too hard you might be doing this how do you know yeah we're telling they want to do that's the same thing no it's not you said you might be telling them that's bad is, you're making a bad decision. Now, what if, people could have told Joe Jackson he was making a bad decision pushing the Jacksons.
And then the kids turn out to be that, was it a bad decision? You see what I'm saying? You can't tell nobody you are making a bad decision. But what if I said beating the shit out of Tito to make him play the guitar better was bad parenting, or bad choice? Would that be okay for me to say? No, you can't tell him that.
Okay, so that's my thing. You can't tell somebody you're making a bad decision.
You are, this is bad parenting. You shouldn't tell somebody that.
Yeah, I get it. Unless all arrows point to, like if we got to get Dyfus and Child Protective Services involved.
Tito definitely wanted Diefus.

I'll give you one.

And rest in peace.

The father-son duo that took P&B Rock out of here.

Rest in peace.

Now, you could say to that dad, bringing your son on that is a bad, like, you ruined both of their lives.

You've ruined three lives.

Well, more lives.

More.

He's ruined a lot.

You've ruined a lot of lives.

Rest in peace.

That's an instance where, and that's extreme, but that's an instance where you can say, you made a bad decision, bad parenting, et cetera. Hey, to not go as extreme as ICE is going, the whole conversation when Nick Cannon kept popping him out was, you're bad parenting.
That's bad fatherhood. There's no way you can be in all of these places at once.
That was the entire conversation. Are we allowed to say is that wrong well what i told because i told nick to his face i said you're being selfish i still didn't say you're being a bad parent this is semantic no no no it's different though bad parent is a different level of accusatory than selfish so if i say to nick right as a father you should want just to use stephen a's as a father.
You shouldn't want to have 10 kids in 10 places because you can't be present for all of them. That's in bad taste.
Very. That's in bad taste.
Who are you to say what I should and shouldn't want as a father? And who are you to say because he got enough money? Who's who are you to say that? I don't build a compound with all of us living here. You don't know what our living situation is.
I'm I'm just a hypothetical. I'm not criticizing that.
But that's why you can't make that assessment that this is bad parenting. And that's why it feels like a slippery slope because while I agree with the LeBron, Stephen A criticisms, I think Stephen A went too far and it's not necessary because again, the worst case scenario is he's a bad NBA player or whatever, right? That's not a bad outcome.
That's an outcome that 99.9% of the world will never get. You can't criticize them for that.
I get that. But the other extreme, when we talk about calling Difus or calling child services on somebody, that's the extreme we all agree you can criticize that.
But in the middle is a bunch of choices that I might think are unethical, like pulling a kid out of school or depriving kids of their social experiences or not letting the kids. These are all things that I might say are bad and are signs of bad parenting.
So I'm with i'm hearing what you're saying loud and clear and it's like i probably wouldn't use that language of bad parenting because it sounds accusatory but we do all judge people's parents i'm just saying steven ain't the first nigga to judge somebody's oh no you could judge it but we all do and that's by your own personal judge it and take it on tv and act like you're having a heart-to-heart man-to-man dad-to-dad conversation when like you said the worst case scenario is you're a bad NBA player. Right.
Stop. That's it.
I agree with that. Yeah, that part I agree 100%.
I got my son with a guaranteed contract making his own money doing what I'm assuming he loves to do on my team. We play together.
Yeah. Where's the bad parenting in that? I don't think that's bad parenting.
Even if I don't agree with the choice and I don't necessarily agree with the choice,

I think it's,

I don't think it's bad parenting.

I think if I'm going to defer

to somebody's expertise on this,

I'm going to defer to LeBron's.

You know what I mean?

Like he's one of the goats.

Like fuck it.

Exactly.

He deserves the opportunity

to be wrong about it.

I agree.

Yeah, I just don't like telling people

y'all are bad parents.

Fair.

Not with it.

Especially when your private life is so private yeah like Stephen A has made it a point to keep his private life extremely private it's a good one we don't see his kids we don't know about his kids we don't hear about his kids we don't hear about his dating we don't know nothing about none of that so don't just because hang your hat on that, now point all the guns at the guy who's in the public doing it a certain way. It's just not.
And I didn't like Stephen A's response to the LeBron's Richard Jefferson conversation, which was, oh, so it was about you. It wasn't about the kid.
No, no, buddy. It's still about the kid.
He was saying, he had a problem with you saying, I'm speaking to you as a father because you're a father to who? Everything after that was about the kid. Like, I just don't like how Stephen A is handling this specific topic, but I'll shut up until he goes on Gilbert to talk about it because I'm sure they'll talk about it over there.
He's doing good with Arena soon. Shout out to Gil.
Oh, okay. Shout out to Gil.
Yeah, I can't wait to see. Can't wait to see.
What else is going on? Garrett Cole is getting Tommy John surgery. If you're a Yankees fan.
Not great. That's crazy.
Season's over. I'm not going to go that far.
I'm being an asshole. Yeah, no, no, no.
That far. I'm just wishing the worst.
Want the Yankees?

I want him to be healthy.

I want the Yankees to lose.

Got it.

Why do you want the Yankees?

It's just all New York teams, son, for you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's it.

At least you're consistent.

Yeah, yeah.

I hate doing all of them.

Damn.

I'll take the Yankees over to the Mets, but I hate all of them.

Okay. Awesome.

And you take any Yankee contract over poor George contract?

No. All right.
Reverse card. That was low Just saying I'm over it all I want them to blow that whole team up at this point That's where I'm at That's exactly where I'm at with it Justin Fields to the Jets.
I like Justin Fields. I wanted him to have the shot in Pittsburgh.

I don't think he got a fair shake.

He didn't.

And I really want, especially when I was getting DK over there,

now you got Pickens, DK, you still got Fire Move.

You have some options. I would have liked to have seen how he would have performed

giving a shot with the whole season. So I didn't like it.
But I hope he balls out with the Jets. He has some options.
I would have liked to have seen how he would have performed,

given a shot with the whole season.

So I didn't like it. But I hope he balls out with the Jets.

And his contract, his agent did that.

I actually don't like him going to the Jets because I like him.

And I feel like the Jets is a black hole for quarterbacks.

Yeesh.

When was the last time we saw a good Jets quarterback situation?

Damn. Damn.
I think that's time we saw a good Jets quarterback situation? Damn.

Damn.

I think that's overhyped a little bit.

Maybe.

But I understand it.

Maybe.

We watched Matt Leinert have a blast for the Jets.

That was 20 years ago.

What year was that?

It was a while ago.

20 years.

That's a long time.

Mark Sanchez.

I mean, that's who I meant.

I said Matt Leinert. I meant Mark Sanchez.
I'm sorry. But that's still 20 years ago.
Yeah, 20 years ago. I hope he balls out still.
Listen, Justin Fields, if you give him a starting spot on a team, he's going to do something. I can't speak for the team's results.
With a system that's trying to put him in position to succeed. Yeah, yeah.
Because that wasn't the case

in Chicago. He'll be fine.
I've seen

Mike Kaiser win five weeks in a row

with starting Justin Fields

on Fantasy, picking him up on waivers. He's super nice.

He's got a bad rep

in the league. He's much better than

being a backup quarterback

in a lot of the positions he's been in.

Yeah, yeah, it's true.

I'm over here watching free agency news. I'm just waiting for it to happen.
You know what's coming. Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers.
Although, I could see him. I also could see him going to the Vikings.
Not a funny shit, though. I could see that, too.
The Vikings just redid their entire offensive line. You're not doing that for J.J.
McCarthy, who might be good. They might really like him.
They might. Like, really like him.
They might. That's a lot of investment, especially for a team that's been competitive for the last three or four years.
Their plan was J.J. McCarthy last year.
It was. So they clearly saw something that said, hey, we're ready to go with him, and we don't think we'll lose all these games with a rookie quarterback.
But they had a backup player.

And they let Sam Darnold know pretty much all season long,

hey, we're not bringing you back.

Right.

We're not paying you.

You're 10-1.

But we're not bringing you back.

That says there's some faith in the young quarterback back there.

And not for nothing, that draft probably will go down as one of the greatest quarterback drafts. I've been hearing this QB heavy.
Special, yeah. I see y'all got rid of Daniel Jones.
Yeah, he's an indie. We've been got rid of Daniel.
He was on the Vikings, actually. Oh, shit.
I'm trying to make jokes on you. We should have did that before to say Gwon.
That's what I was talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's cool.

Pardon.

Whoopsie.

No, but the funny shit is, as much as I say I hate it,

I can see the Aaron Rodgers shit working in Pittsburgh.

It would absolutely work.

Same, by the way.

Is there anything left?

What do you mean?

Skill-wise.

He still balled out last year at times.

Okay.

I think he does.

I'm really asking if I don't know.

Yo, the Jets won games last year. Yeah, they did.
And they lost a lot of games by a position. By very close margins.
Yeah, by a position. Yeah, okay.
So it ain't as bad as they make it out to be. I mean, it probably was in the building and for the organization.
No, the building was an absolute mess. They fired their coaches, their assistants, their GMs, everything, mid-season.
But see, I don't think that the Steelers

will let Aaron Rodgers have that power

that the Jets and the Packers gave him.

Different brand organization.

That's a fact.

That ain't going to work over here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's not going to fly over here.

That's why I think it could work.

Nor will Pickens and Metcalf let him come over there

and just get to talk in any type of way.

Yeah.

That's what's going to be interesting.

That's the movie.

Metcalf and Pickens on the same team all season long. Yep.
Book it. I might drive to Pittsburgh.
I might go to a game. Somebody put a meme up and it was like the Steelers huddle.
Okay, we're running a halfback dive. And then it says Pickens and Metcalf down the field.
They got both of them fighting, beating the shit out of the defenders.

It's like, dog, this is going to be – if it work, it work.

It's going to be great.

Yeah.

I'm just waiting for the news, though, man. Because I said if Aaron Rodgers comes, I'm going to the commanders.

Commanders, they're making some moves, too.

They made some nice moves.

Debo, they got Laramie Tunsil from the Texans yesterday.

And your cousin's the offensive coach, right? Offensive line coach. Yeah, he's assistant.
Assistant coach. Yeah, yeah.
Offensive line coach. They just got a start.
Yeah. Pause.
Pause. But yeah.
Shouts to cars. They gunning for y'all.
Yeah, I know. I know that's what I hear.
Eagles just made a trade today, too, didn't they? Eagles, yeah. CJ Gardner-Johnson.
Yeah. Eagles already have,, I think I said six players have already left for the defense.
Yeah, we got Slay. Yeah, and Milton went to New England.
We're talking football. Xavier Worthy? Yeah.
This is a mess. Yeah.
This one's a little... This kind of follows the accusation.
Yeah, yes it accusation yeah yes it does chain from earlier so for those who don't know um i guess well the way the news broke was xavier worthy was arrested right yeah and do a dv yes yes excuse me for dv and then as more information came out it wasn't him that was the aggressive

yeah me for DV. And then as more information came out, it wasn't him that was the...
He's the victim. He was the victim.
And the allegation was that the argument started because he broke up with her because she was cheating, right? Correct. She caught him cheating and then he started attacking him him allegedly this is all alleged he called the cops ignored she called the cops he gets arrested It's a nasty situation Cast How do we feel about that one? Chiefs was probably disappointed That ain't normally how they do business Eddie Reed was pissed yeah the Chiefs said wait you were the victim you're cut get the hell out of here oh man yeah that was that was nasty that's a toxic, they don't care.
Yeah. What's my man named that crashed a Porsche and walked away like Superman? Rasheed Rice.
Yeah, Rasheed Rice. Tyreek had his fair share of incidents.
Yeah, Tyreek, they didn't care. Andy Reid.
Andy Reid. Yeah.
Shit, they cut Kareem Hunt and brought him back. Yeah.
Yeah. Listen, man.
Can you play? Right. Can you Give us a ring, my nigga.
That's all we care about. We'll clean up the other shit.
Y'all gonna feel the Mahomes' wrath next season, buddy, for this loss. You think so? Yes.
For this Super Bowl loss? Yes. I think everybody can see that.
We cut ass all regular season and then was made to look like that in the Super Bowl? No, they too too arrogant for that. They're not letting that right.
No way. I mean, they lost a better team, though.
It's going to be tough. I agree with you.
Yeah. I'm just talking about what the arrogance is going to do.
I mean, he might have a chip on the show. When it's time for the season to start.
That's the last nigga you want to have a chip on the show. Yeah, it's true.
He's a monster. All right, we do have a part of the show.
Someone named Daniel needs our help. What's up, Daniel? What's up? Daniel says, so I'm a new father.
Congratulations. Word.
Don't get in the boat. My wife and I gave birth to our beautiful son named DJ.
Okay. At times, my wife and I go back and forth

about our parenting skills.

She says I'm being too hard on him

because I let him cry sometimes.

He likes to fight his sleep

and he's really attached to his mother

to the point that I feel a certain way.

The reason I'm not home as much

is because I work two jobs

to support my family at the moment.

My wife and I have started clashing

Thank you. certain way the reason i'm not home as much is because i work two jobs to support my family at the moment my wife and i have started clashing about how i should be home more and be a better father like if i stay home we won't have a crib to live in so jbp don't put pressure on us nigga can you please help me on how I can better communicate with my wife about being a better father and husband well show the bills nothing better to help with that than an eviction notice yeah show the bills lay them out hey let them niggas come tape that little note to your door right there that'll get.
Hey, y'all got 12 days to be the fuck out of here.

Let her walk in the house

and click a switch.

Yeah, the light's off.

If he's working two jobs

to support the household

and you want him home more,

then he can't work.

It's just simple math.

Because there's the other option

but I'm going to sound like an asshole if I say it.

Go get a job.

Kids are a job.

Domestic labor is labor.

I'm not saying it is.

I'm not saying it not.

But if you want me home more

and I am out working

to get the financials

to keep us afloat take some of that burden off me then. I can be home more.
My only problem with what he's saying is, and you've got to talk a lot of dads off this ledge, is the child having an attachment to the mom shouldn't be an uh concern an impediment on your fathering right and your fatherhood like moms play a role it's a role that dad can't play won't play it's not possible and dad plays a role y'all both have to have a role that's what I feel like that's something that you want to encourage yes it's not something you should look at with at with spite or resentment. Because if you get to the bottom of what your issue is, which is, hey, I'm not home.
I'm paying these bills trying to be the best dad I could be. Then that kind of aligns with the child having a pretty good bond with mom.
Right. So I don't want you to contradict your own point here in this.
Like you want that. That's fire.
No matter what me and my kids' moms ever went through, I'll use my oldest because my youngest is my youngest, but no matter what we was going through, I wanted him to love mom. Absolutely.
Speak highly of mom. Know that she'll be there.
And how you look at mom is how you're going to look at women. Yes.
Go on. So.
You want that relationship. You want your kid to have a healthy respect of women and mom.
He mentions that she's got a problem with how much he lets their son cry and then mentions sleep training. I don't know this.
Is there a general rule of thumb when it comes to sleep training? Yes. And letting them cry it out versus...
I would like to know how old the child is because that's important here. Did you say 10 months old? No, that's my boat.
That's just the boat. You get the feeling that the child is relative, very young.
I'm a new father. That's all he says.
My wife and I gave birth to a beautiful son named DJ. He doesn't say at age, I don't think.
Yeah, he don't say. This is what I say.
I mean, cry it out, which is a fight that parents have all the time. I've had that argument with my wife too.
Same. You know what I mean? It's like, all right, come on.
Cry it out, according to studies, doesn't work, right? Like, you're not supposed to cry it out. It also sends a message to kids that when they're emotionally vulnerable, no one's going to be there for them.
They will stop crying at some point, but the question is, what does it do to them long-term emotions? Exactly. Not at some point.
When I go put this oatmeal in, when I start mixing the food and the milk together, it's going to put this noise. And that's the other side.
That's the other side. Like that cry it out shit, because I used to have that same argument.
The cry it out, still gotta sleep so no let's i because she was my baby mom was more of a oh you gotta let her gotta let her cry a little bit we can't just pick her up can't put her in the bed with you i'm like dog i hear all that that sound good but i gotta be up at six yeah so whatever that puts her to sleep i'm doing it because i have to and my job, if I fall asleep behind the wheel, there's going to be some people dying. Right.
So. See, that's where some patriarchy.
See, we don't have to talk about topics where patriarchy comes in handy. Like, for Lex, it was understood.
When he started crying, you get up. You wasn't getting up? No, I had to be to work at 6.
I had to be to work at 6 in the morning. It's not a shared responsibility at that point.
Because you have to sleep. I have mine.
I got to get this rest. When he started crying, get your ass up.
And when you need an emergency break, that's what I'll be for you. But this is not something that will be a shared responsibility for me.
Whatever people's house I don't judge people's house. Exactly.
For me I still got up. Like I had to get up at 6 a.m.
7 a.m. I still got up.
I was in charge of the overnight shift. And still do it for age like that.
So you got a heart in there somewhere. Just not for age.
Just not for age. But see Mark again it's different.
I'm just using my example. I'm driving.
Yeah. So I can't be behind the wheel sleepy.
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Every situation is different. It's very, yeah.
Yeah. But I think having the conversation about the parenting is always going to be, there's one parent that wants to be tougher and there's one parent that wants to be lighter and you have to figure that out.
It has to be a middle. Otherwise, it's going to get ugly.
You're going to start to resent it. I'm also wondering if the reason why he's letting his child cry it out is because it's a boy child.
I'm just wondering if that's a factor that might be playing into this. Might be.
Sometimes that plays a role in people's minds. Bring some gender into it.
No, I mean, like, yeah. I mean, like, it goes back to the whole Nelly thing of, you know, my daughters can come home and stay for as long as they want.
But my son's that, you know, tick, tick tock motherfucker. You gotta get up and go get it.
Exactly. And it's just like, I think that that lends to what toxic masculinity actually is.
Not letting male children, or like, understanding that you need, your male children need comfort. You know? And don't always need to be, you know, like, treated harshly because they're a man.
You know what I'm saying? They're two, right, or three, or four, or one, or whatever. No, but just in general.
No, you're right, though. You're right.
I agree. Like, my son is at a stage right now where he's whining a lot.
He's a toddler, so he does toddler shit, and I find it so fucking annoying. Like, when he turns his back, I'm like, shut the fuck up.
Like, whatever he's not looking at me because I'd be so frustrated. Like, I'd be really frustrated.
But he does this whining thing.

And I suspect that if he were a girl,

you'd...

You'd have much more patience.

It would still irritate the shit out of me,

because I hate whiners in general.

I hate, in life, I hate whiners.

But the fact that it's a boy,

I know there's a part of me that is like,

stop bitching.

And I gotta constantly work through that.

And I don't say that to him,

but I be thinking it sometimes.

And I know, it's like he's two.

It's not gender.

It shouldn't be any of that,

but I still have to work through that.

And so that's some of the stuff

you got to think about.

And again, work through in yourself.

You're absolutely right

because I know with my daughter,

she's five and that's all she does is whine.

Whine, whine, whine.

My girls, three kids,

and our kids are all in order.

Five, six, seven, eight.

They don't whine.

They chill as shit.

It's just my daughter that does this shit for every little thing. And I'm so, I hear, I get up and run because it's my baby girl.
And if that was a boy. And she be like, yo, she know you gonna do it.
The kids will be in the garage with the little TV to show me what the fuck they got going on. The little monitor shit.
Yeah, that's it. They're going to get their own space somewhere.
All the way over there. Hey, these little babies want to cry? We're going to ignore the age restrictions on the lullaby speaker.
We're not going to get the one that's for infants to two. We're getting the five-year-old one.
That nigga used to cry. Turn the speaker up.
Turn up that lullaby. Lullaby loud as hell.
And go right back to bed. What else are some little tricks to get the baby to go back to bed? Benadryl.
That's bad parenting. Them talks don't be had about parents be drugging the kids.
I know people that do brandy, whiskey, all that shit Yeah When a kid teething Yeah Right on the gums Right on the gums Get that little sucker Oh yeah yeah Some McAllen Some McAllen 25 Hey I know where to fix this here. Take this Louis D13 real quick.

Oh, shit. Hey, hopefully we was able to help you, my brother.
Yeah, man. Oh, man.
But had that talk with your whiz, man. Had that talk.
Nothing beats a problem like communication. Have healthy communication.
That's it. True, dude.
That's really it. And with that said, I am going with a record by

KWN

featuring

Kehlani. This record is called

Worst Behavior. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, take your guess, I'm finna swipe it Change your plans, call your girls and tell them You ain't gonna make it tonight Know the club's meant to see you, but we got our own Cut the lights, turn the bass up, we gon' hit some no's For the bag, we don't need it, sure as hell I'm gon' break it tonight Need you on your words, yeah Need you on your words, yeah Girl, I want you to You look like there ain't no one left on this fucking road I'm Put your shit and fuck me up, won't we're so pretty sure She said, shut me out, oh shut me out, don't ask the word Don't ask the word, oh shut me, don't ask the word Put me like there ain't no one, let's fuck you up Put she ain't with me, oh, what's up in your shirt?

She said, shut me out, shut me out, oh, with your ass to work

With your ass to work, I'm sure, with your ass to work

Keep driving, one hand on the wheel and one sliding

Speed into your crib to get ridin'

Know who you been fucking, ain't excited

And I'm that you would get it right Had me calling every night Never getting off my mind I'ma turn it to a slip and slide I'll make sure you're satisfied Meet the record every night Cause you do me so good to get a key in this See my shit taste so good you tryna sleep in here Girl, will you give me a hand? Don't know what they call it, where you from? but it ain't this way You need me on your words Yeah, you No more on your words Need you on your words Yeah, you And I want you to I ain't no wonder what I'm gonna say There's no fucking place I guess she's on my own

I'm gonna show you

She's so sorry

I'm sorry Yeah, damn That is brand new music, brand new music from KWN featuring Kehlani. That record is called Worst Behavior, available in your phone and on DSPs right this very second.

That's hard.

That's good shit.

Before I get to my sleeper, did y'all hear that R. Kelly remixed Chris Brown's residuals?

Yep.

Okay, cool.

I was too pussy to play it on the main.

We can get to it on Patreon.

But I got to save for the Patreon. Got it.
Say less. He really just pussy to play it on the main.
We can get to it on Patreon. But I got to save for the Patreon.

Got it. Say less.
He really just wanted to know where his money at. He wanted to know where his residuals at.
Yeah, he ain't talking to a girl. He's talking to labels.
Put my shit out. Put my shit.
Got you. Who got my money? Somebody make a money off my catalog.
Where is it? But, um. R.
Kelly, you know they ain't giving you. All right.
We'll save it. So

Jacquees and Dejalo

Put part two of their Fucker Friend Zone mixtape out. Eight years, I think, since the last one.
So, My Sleeper is actually a part two of one of the better songs on the first one, which is called You Still Belong to Somebody Else. I want to invite some strippers.
Cut up. You belong to somebody else.
You still belong to somebody else. That's the name of this one.
You still Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
You still, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I'm still picturing days with all the us involved Remember long nights I put love one call Remember when I told myself I wouldn't get involved I still, I still, I still I still I still I still I still I still I still I still I still Yeah I'm still waiting by the phone when you ready I still dial out your number, still texting It's been years you've got still my distraction It's been years I still find you attractive Remember that you in, tell me she quit Don't care about your chicks, I'm still in a mix And I wanna tell you how I felt Still you belong to somebody else Yeah To somebody else You belong To somebody To somebody else To somebody To somebody To somebody else To somebody else You belong To somebody else You still Belong to somebody else You still But under somebody else You still You still You still You still You still But under somebody else You still You still I am the skin I am a steal I am a steal I am a steal But I move back home to Michigan Somebody else I'm not in Atlanta Where you love these guys You still with your girl? girl? See what that be like. And that was You Still Belong to Somebody Else off of Fucker Friend Zone 2, Jacquees and Dejelove.
Yo, it's some shit on that mixtape, though. Yeah? I'm sure.
It is some shit on there. That song was absolutely fire.
Imagine how it sound with some verses. You know that's the new shit today.

They wrote the hook.

Gave them a verse and got up out of there.

You want to head to the strip club tonight?

It's some shit on their tape though. Salute to them.

I'm going to go to my guy Lil Vic

with 38 Special and

Fashion and RJ Payne. This is

Santharia.

Huh.

Yeah, you know. Let's go.
fashion and RJ Payne this is Santhuriye They father make history, even though I started late initially Stacked up enough pipes and drums to orchestrate a symphony, huh? Street ministry, unique energy Rappin' and sellin' crack, I'm that guy in each industry Me and drugs got a deep chemistry Flip a square into another square, yeah, complete symmetry, huh? You'll never see my enemies in my friends' faces They feel y'all wear those energy and don't embrace it I'm still dealing with temptation But I stay away from bitches that's basic That never been places Outpatient, impatient The only one in this gym with Louis Vuitton windbreakers An entertainer that's impatient But money motivated My gym trainer has been fragrant My team drives up tequila I bottled them bottle of Lita Them niggas got piffer My posse got it for cheaper Kamikaze I pull up and cock the heater Then park something right in your top It's Dr. Mita Flooded Hesusua I sat in Aquafina This Indonesia This indica not to Tiva for freedom product of bobby and mumia heart of a lion can easily spot a hyena my dreams nashirima my team follow the leaders my queen far from a cameron she solid that's my khadija the follower of the prophet who profited off a reefer they tried to ban santiago like sandalia sangria out of Venezia Not a stack on me My pockets is full of visas Rocking the Tigra I'm probably with Vicarina He told me to meet him at Luff Trying to win a Cohiba It's capital It's disturbing to be this great I deserve to wear a turban With urges feeding me crakes Got a urgency for the cake Last nigga trying to stop me, died with his eyes open He permanently awake, I'm determined to beat this hate It's real here, they'll put you in a fucking wheelchair That's courtesy of the Drake Been in the booth working purposely till it's late The only thing that's concerning me is today Niggas still can't afford an attorney to beat that case But on my journey, I'ma be out in Germany in a break I learned to see the mistakes My vision 2020 I don't wear a chain I'm tryna purchase real estate Everything real couldn't be further from being fake You listen in the fucking murder There's third degree in estate I prefer to be in the space Dangerous with the iron And I keep it underground Cause the famous niggas is dying Bang! That's Santeria by Lil Vic Featuring 38 Spesh, Fashon, and RJ Payne Fire Fuck with it Big Mel Mine is called Overqualified by Durand Bernard.
Okay, do it. Talented artist, yes.
I'm a little too self-aware. Love is a blessing and a curse when I care I know finding good shit is real Cause it's impossible to look past what's there I know who I am, I know who I am I can't look up my dance, get confused and arrogance I'm a little blue, I know what I'm doing Could it be hard to fathom that I'm too well-traveled, can't be this old news I just can't seem to get it right

I'll be the light And it's all news I, I, I Just can't seem to get it right How am I? Overqualified How am I? All that you need in your life I've got that overnight I'm overqualified I'm overqualified I'm the most with the most And stay doing the most Making sure you're comfortable See what happens when you do the work Check, does anybody have a reference? Check, is anybody on their way to work yet? I don't know I've been waiting for too long Just can't say to get right How the hell am I? Overqualified How am I? All that you need in your life For I'm clapping overnight I'm overqualified I am that qualified Need someone to see me eye to eye Gotta sit tight to the time around Overqualified Need someone to look at that qualified Need someone to beat me eye to eye

God is entitled to time around me

For the qualified

I'm not gonna do that, that's right I can't wait to make sense to be so much myself You'll be able to find me Then who I am I can't wait till the next time I'm not you myself I know that you'll find me If I do I am I can't wait till the next time I'm not you myself You'll be able to find me being who I am

I can't wait tonight, since I'm being so much myself

I know that you'll find your life? I'm overqualified, yeah Just get sick to get it right Can you sing? Ooh, ooh, ooh, oh, oh Thank you. As Duran Bernard overqualified And his project is hard And I'm only talking about his project being hard I don't know what else is hard I don't play it often Because if I put it on Hide your niggas If I put that little slap right there, I got

niggas is getting

bad.

You backing your DMs with it?

Watch them out.

No, no, no. I didn't know what you was on.

No, I'm telling you what I'm on.

No, no.

Tell me. Fuck out of here.

Mark?

Hey, I'm playing a little slap from the Black Panther 2 soundtrack this is from St. John's most recent album festival season it's called Fuck Being Sad oh that's my shit I can't get the two soundtrack fuck me inside Some days I don't do too much.
I been going through it, had some real bad months The city where I grew up, I ain't been back once Don't wanna go to funerals for people that young I'm done, so fuck me I just left Mama Cribby, finally got me a Cribble Found my own way to ballin' and never learned how to dribble First they like how I scrabble, then they like how I scribble I paint my pictures with words, I hope you notice the riddle Wish I was friends with my ex, but her heart is so brittle She still hate me a little, that still hurt me a little I come home from the bottom, you know I'm fresh out the ghetto All nights it's hard enough to put on a kettle, I never said no Fuck inside, some days I don't even wanna get dressed up Sick and tired of waking up to bed pressure Stressed out, stressed out, always mess up, I'm trying but fuck being sad I been going through it, had some real bad months The city where I grew up, I ain't been back once Don't wanna go to funerals, so people let it down I got you to fuck inside I had to drop out of college, that shit was truly a blessing I went, got me a job, you gotta hear my confession My mama crying, my money, my sister really be stressing Hard colder than ever, that's from a lack of affection On the train with my uniform, I'm packing a weapon Cause it could happen in seconds, I don't be lacking, I'm stepping That was back in 010, thank God you tracked my progression I thought my father missing wouldn't affect him, that's a lesson at all So far besides, some days I don't even wanna get dressed up Sick and tired of waking up to pay pressure Stressed out, stressed out, it's messed up I'm trying, but fuck inside I've been going through it, had some real bad months This city where I grew up, I ain't been bad once I wanna go to funerals for people that young I'm done, so fuck me inside

Some days I don't even wanna get dressed up

Sick and tired of waking up to bear pressure

Stressed out, stressed out, always mess up

I'm trying, but fuck me inside

I been going through it, had some real bad months

The city where I grew up, I ain't been back once

Don't wanna go to funerals for people that young I'm done so fuck me inside that's St. John fuck me inside cause fuck me inside you know who was that? I feel emo Travis Okay Said all that And y'all got sad Word Look at y'all Sad as shit Yeah that's true You alright Eating chips Same snack hour man Right You right I'm about to go get my little meal prep I ain't going to hold you this is the thing about meal prep right when you get to the end is when it starts cooking now I'm scraping the corners of the fucking meal prep I don't like that meal prep shit because it don't be enough that's the point that's the point I I know that's the point That's why I don't like it too I'm gonna eat two feet I can double it up That's the best thing It's more important Than in the gym man I keep hearing that You can't outrun your mouth I am not looking forward To starting this gym shit bro Telling you it's gonna Change your life I know I'm about to be Fucked bro Yeah the first couple weeks Is gonna be going to be rough for you.
Yeah. But once you get past that.
It's going to feel so good though. Yeah, it feels good.
Summer body loading. It's going to feel good.
You're going to like it. Yeah.
It does. Now, I'm not promising the summer body part.
I know you over 20 years. And that one summer that I see you and be like, you know what? You're really body.

You ain't body in this shit,

yo.

Your body kind of body shit.

Body,

body,

body.

We'll see,

though.

I just want to get

in better shape.

That's it.

That's about being healthy.

That's all I'm supposed

to do.

Who cares about?

I can go buy some abs.

You can do that.

It's been done.

Yeah,

the rappers did it.

Yeah.

They was waiting for y'all. They was waiting for y'all.

They was waiting on y'all to come in here and break down the Drake tweet.

What Drake tweet?

I don't know.

I don't care.

I mean, the Instagram captioning.

I'm still Drake tweet.

I don't know.

Was it a music link attached to the tube?

No, yeah, I'm cool.

All right, then.

No.

Let me know when that happens.

Right.

Some of the fan comments I get offended by.

Oh, my God, I'm going to hit the 15 second skip button when Joe and them break down the drink.

Such a bitch ass up, nigga. What the fuck did you take us for? Oh my God.
New Joe Biden. I belong to you too

And you

You belong to me

You're never gonna come clean about what was going on necessarily I belong to you. You belong to me.

You're never going to come clean about what was going on in that Cisco tour, huh?

I've been to ask you that for a few months.

You won't tell me.

Come clean like what?

What were you doing?

Dancing.

I keep seeing footage go around of you on the Cisco tour with my girl.

My girl, Glow.

Big Glow.

Mm-hmm. I was dancing.
Look at Mark. Look at Mark's face.
I forgot people could see it. I'm sorry.
Look at Mark's face. Listen, man.
Keep us in your prayer. Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time, we bid you adieu. Farewell, adios, cerebro, darche, hasta la vista, au revoir.
So long goodbye, a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments, and boy, do moments pass.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And lastly, the baddies are insecure.
The stagnant women want to travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things, grab you a Tylenol, you might need it. Ay! Anybody got any interesting plans this week? Anything going on this week that I may be able to exploit for entertainment purposes hey is anybody gonna dance on the tour huh come on give me something give me something all right nothing popping this week enjoy the weather mellow vibe so you just starting the gym bro that's that's enough for me.
I'm going to start gardening.

Trying to get through this funny.

That's funny.

I might take the cover off one of these cars and pick a highway.

There you go.

Just go drive.

And drive my stupid ass back home.

Ain't nothing else to do. Wait for that 60 degree to hit.

Right.

No, I'm just trying to explore other avenues of fun. I'm trying to get outside of...
The normal? Normalcy. I'm so...
Hey, I'm waiting on either bowling or escape room shit too, man. Oh, you know, it's coming.
I am 1,000% there. It is coming.
Trying to let my body heal up for the bowling. Me and my girl went bowling.
My thumb's still fucked up a little bit. Me and my girl went bowling.
I bowled like a 73. You know, something light.
First game in... You bowled a 73.
That was my first game in at least 12 years. Oh, wow.
What'd she bowl? 83. The first game.
Girl power. Oh, y'all can't go bowling with me.
Nah, that's what I'm getting at. That is absolutely disgusting.
Listen, fam. I mean, it's better than what Ish said.
Ish going in with his girl. He let her bowl a 275 or something.
Oh, yeah, no, that's not happening. Yeah, no.
That's not happening. I'll pull the bumpers out before that happens.
Yeah. You're not about to put no 2-0 up on me.
Watch this. That is hilarious, though.
Ain't no good movies out of nothing.

If you're bored at home,

on Netflix, they got some bullshit on Netflix, but it's funny.

I don't even remember the name of it,

so let me shut up. That's what the fuck

I was watching. You just said Netflix and maybe

remember. Some stupid show that's like

a spoof-a-mentary of

Jeannie Buss and the Lakers.

And the team is called The Waves. That show is fun.
I didn't watch it. I saw the preview.
It's funny. It's cheesy.
Running Point. That's it.
Running Point. Running Point.
Say less. It is actually a well, well, well written show and they're really, really funny.
They are really funny in that whatever it is. You know what I watched on Netflix? What? Beauty and Black.
Yeah. Oh.
That's all I'm going to say. It's on my list.
I don't know what Beauty and Black is. Tyler Perry.
Tyler Perry. That's all you need to know.
Never mind. That's it.
I don't support him. I don't support him.
That's it. I've been supporting him for years.
It's a Patreon conversation, man, because that's anti-black. What he's doing on them shows? Yeah, it is.
Him not supporting him. Oh, well, we're going to have a conversation on Patreon then.
Oh, great. Yeah.
Well, that's anti-black what what what he's doing on them shows. Yeah, it is him not supporting him Oh

Great yeah, well

That's where I see some other anti-black All right, y'all hold it down we go until next time You're too close and all your emotions are out of control

Just remember all the things you said You close in all

Just remember all the things you said before take your time fall back I know so bad, baby. What the hell? Maybe you and I We can act like Way too long No, Joe Bud!

Enough of Daddy!

JBP, JBP, where would you be without the JBP?

BITCH!