Ep. 1863 - President Trump Makes Mamdani SQUIRM During Whitehouse Faceoff

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Speaker 3 President Trump just invited the Muslim communist mayor elect of New York to the Oval Office, and he managed to do the one thing that no one expected him to do, which, coincidentally, in politics is precisely the thing that politicians are supposed to do.

Speaker 3 We will get into that masterclass in political communication.

Speaker 3 Then, on the flip side, former right-wing stalwart Marjorie Taylor Greene announces that she is resigning from Congress, also because of Trump. And

Speaker 3 most important for the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement, Elon Musk reveals that a bunch of pro-America ex-accounts are actually foreign agitators, a fact which has everyone drawing the wrong conclusions.

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Speaker 3 Zo run in the Oval Office, just to me,

Speaker 3 it's one of those regular reminders of what makes Trump so special. This, sometimes you forget and you say, oh, I didn't like that policy so much.
And I feel like he kind of whiffed it there.

Speaker 3 And I don't know. And then you see Zoron in the Oval Office and you remember, oh, this is why Trump is the greatest politician of any of our lifetimes.
It's not even close.

Speaker 3 I'm not even going to set it up. I'm not even going to set up with why this was so great.
Just take a listen.

Speaker 4 Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?

Speaker 5 I've spoken about that's okay. You could just say

Speaker 6 okay.

Speaker 6 It's easier.

Speaker 6 It's easier than explaining it. I don't buddy.

Speaker 3 It's easier. Hey, buddy, it's okay.
You called me a fascist, right?

Speaker 3 But it's all right. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 Hey, so the liberal media are there.

Speaker 3 To set the stage, liberal media are there. Trump sitting behind the Resolute desk, most powerful seat in the political world.

Speaker 3 Zoron standing up next to him, like a good little boy, you know, like a dutiful little boy who was summoned to the principal's office, and he's standing there.

Speaker 3 And then one of his own reporters, a liberal reporter, presumably liberal, I actually didn't see which outlet it's from.

Speaker 3 The vast majority of reporters are liberal, asks Zoron, hey, you called Trump a fascist, right? Do you think Trump's a fascist? And Zoron, you see just the eyes open.

Speaker 3 I mean, I mean, I don't want it. And what does Trump do?

Speaker 3 What everyone would expect Trump to do in this meeting is to look eyes furrowed, look Zora in the eye, say, listen here, you Muslim communist.

Speaker 3 This is what every other hack Republican politician would have done. Listen here, you Muslim communist.
I'm not going to let you impose your Sharia law. I'm not going to let you

Speaker 3 turn America into a communist hellhole. Listen here.
And that he would have gotten in his face. He would have had finger pointing.

Speaker 3 And it would have played fine.

Speaker 3 You know, that's what you expect.

Speaker 3 And then maybe Zoron, he takes it, he stares him down steely-eyed. And that's what you'd expect.
And that would have been fine and super boring.

Speaker 3 And that's not what Trump gives you.

Speaker 3 Trump invites him in, and he does the one thing you don't expect. He's chummy with him.
Hey, hey, buddy. Hey, what's up? And then he gets the tough question.
Hey,

Speaker 3 hey, Zoron, you've called Trump a fascist, an authoritarian, a dictator.

Speaker 3 Hey, buddy, don't worry about it. I know.
Just tell him you called me that. It's no, but don't worry about it.
Water under the bridge. Hey, come on, buddy.
Don't worry. It's going to be easier.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, don't worry. I'm on your side.
It's me and you against them, right? Right, brother, inshallah.

Speaker 3 Salam alaikum. It's you and me, bro.

Speaker 3 Oh, man. It's so good.
And the agreement,

Speaker 3 the chummy chumminess didn't stop there.

Speaker 3 Trump and Zoran Mamdani found lots of areas apparently of agreement.

Speaker 5 I think both President Trump and I, we are very clear about our positions and our views.

Speaker 5 And what I really appreciate about the president is that the meeting that we had focused not on places of disagreement, which there are.

Speaker 6 And I've been called much worse than a despot, so

Speaker 5 it's not that insulting.

Speaker 6 Maybe I think he'll change his mind after we get to working together. Yes, please.

Speaker 5 Would you feel comfortable living in New York City under a McDonnell administration?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I would. I really would.
Especially after the meeting. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 What makes you comfortable?

Speaker 6 We agree on a lot more than I would have thought. This is a man that, right now, I think is focused in New York City.

Speaker 6 I really think he has a chance to do a great job. We're going to help him.
But I really think he has a chance to do a great job. But I'll let you answer that.

Speaker 6 You consider yourself the leader of the Democrats. I think it's more appropriate for him.

Speaker 5 I consider myself the next mayor of New York City, and I I keep my horizons firmly on New York City.

Speaker 5 And I appreciate the meeting with the president, which focused again on the five boroughs and whether New Yorkers could afford to live there.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 just beautiful. It's just beautiful.
And consider all the layers here.

Speaker 3 First of all, before we get to the 4-D chess esoteric political strategy, Just think of this from common sense.

Speaker 3 Zoran Mamdani gets elected, running effectively as a communist and a Muslim identitarian communist at that in New York.

Speaker 3 Trump was coming out at the end, essentially campaigning for his Democratic rival, Andrew Cuomo. The Republicans did not want this to happen.

Speaker 3 This was a major blow, signaled, in the minds of many, a major blow for the Republicans in the midterms, for J.D. Vance's chance in 2028.
And

Speaker 3 what does Trump do? Just common sense. This guy's now the mayor of New York.
He's nice to him.

Speaker 3 You actually don't need 5D chess to realize that that's probably a smart move. You don't need 5D chess to realize that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

Speaker 3 A lot of people said in Trump 1, had Schumer and Pelosi just been nice to Trump or just not called him Hitler immediately, he might have worked with them. And Trump sees that.

Speaker 3 He knows that lesson himself. He says, hey, buddy, come on in here.
You're the mayor now. I didn't want you to be mayor.
You're the mayor now. Let's see.
How can we work together?

Speaker 3 Listen, if I can help you out, I'm going to help you out. If I can do it, I'm going to help you out.
And I expect that if you can help me out, you're going to help me out too.

Speaker 3 That's just common sense. And it's the kind of common sense that a guy who's ever worked in business understands,

Speaker 3 that a person who's ever cut a deal understands, and that politicians really don't understand because they get too far into the weeds. Okay, that's the basic level.

Speaker 3 The

Speaker 3 next layer of this,

Speaker 3 Trump says,

Speaker 3 Yes, I would feel comfortable living in Mom Dani's New York. It seems like he's conceding something there.
It seems like he's saying all that Republican fear-mongering about Mamdani, it wasn't true.

Speaker 3 It was disingenuous.

Speaker 3 If he really were a jihadi communist,

Speaker 3 then we wouldn't feel comfortable living in Mamdani's, New York. But I'm admitting to you now we are comfortable, so we were lying, right? That's what it seems like he's conceding.

Speaker 3 However, don't forget, the Republicans lost.

Speaker 3 He won. Not only the Republicans and the moderate Democrats lost in New York.
Momdani Danny won. Mom Dani is the hottest young thing in politics.

Speaker 3 And Trump comes out and he says, oh yeah, no, I would feel comfortable living in Mom Danny's New York. Especially after he and I chatted off camera.

Speaker 3 Because, you know, secretly, he and I agree on a lot more than he's letting on.

Speaker 3 You see what he's doing to him? You see how he's just twisting that knife?

Speaker 3 And Mom Danny's standing up there smiling like a doofus because he's got nothing else to do because he's in Trump's house, which happens to be the most powerful building in the world, in all of politics.

Speaker 3 He's standing there. He's, oh,

Speaker 3 yeah, listen. Look, I'm not where I was a little nervous about living in Mom Dani's New York before the meeting, but after the meeting, I realized we secretly agree on a lot.

Speaker 3 He's really on my side secretly. And there's Mom Dani.

Speaker 3 It's just masterful. Trump's being so nice that Mom Danny can't fight him in the room.

Speaker 3 But by not fighting him in the room, he has to implicitly accept that he and Trump secretly agree, which puts him in a terrible place with his voters in New York, his constituents who are radically leftist, who are radically opposed to Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 It made Momdani squirm. Momdani left that meeting much weaker than he went in.

Speaker 3 And Trump left that meeting much stronger. Because to the point we just mentioned that Momdani is the hottest young thing in politics.

Speaker 3 After those elections, two, three weeks ago, whenever they were, everyone said, okay, Trump's a lame duck now. He's a lame duck.
The Republicans lost in New York, in New Jersey, in Virginia.

Speaker 3 We're already talking about 2028. We're already talking about the bright young things in the party.

Speaker 3 Zoran Momdani is the new hot young thing, so much so that a reporter asked if he were the new leader of the Democrat Party. It's all about everyone else but Trump.
And what happens?

Speaker 3 Trump brings Mom Dani to the Oval Office.

Speaker 3 And he makes it all about Trump again. It's all about Trump again.
And now Mom Dani, he's Trump's little, little pizza boy. He's trying,

Speaker 3 hey, Mr. Trump, can I get you a cup of coffee? And yeah, can I get you a bagel, Mr.
Trump? No, I'm okay. Thank you, Zoran.

Speaker 3 It's all about Trump again.

Speaker 3 He made himself the star again. It's

Speaker 3 political science classes should study that meeting.

Speaker 3 The absolute flip. of political momentum, the absolute inversion of the political communications that we've gotten out of the last two weeks.

Speaker 3 Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 He did the one thing you didn't expect him to do,

Speaker 3 which is just as a general rule, the thing politicians should do. Okay.

Speaker 3 Speaking of Trump making it about him again, we got more evidence of this coming out of Congress.

Speaker 3 Marjorie Taylor Greene, one of the stalwart MAGA most pro-Trump, belligerently pro-Trump voices out there. She's quitting Congress because of Trump.
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Speaker 3 The once big bright star in the Republican Party in Congress, pro-MAGA, pro-Trump, as belligerently rock-ribbed right-wing as it gets.

Speaker 3 Last week we saw she went on CNN and apologized for being so right-wing, started using liberal phrases, you know, be kind. I don't, I'm sorry, me a culpa, mea a culpa.

Speaker 3 And now she announces she's quitting Congress in the new year because of Trump.

Speaker 4 I have too much self-respect and dignity.

Speaker 4 I love my family way too much, and I do not want my sweet district to have to endure a hurtful and hateful primary against me by the president that we all fought for, only to fight and win my election while Republicans will likely lose the midterms, and in turn be expected to defend the president against impeachment after he hatefully dumped tens of millions of dollars against me and tried to destroy me.

Speaker 4 It's all so absurd and completely unserious. I refuse to be a battered wife, hoping it all goes away and gets better.

Speaker 4 If I am cast aside by the president and the MAGA political machine and replaced by neocons, big pharma, big tech, military-industrial war complex, foreign leaders, and the elite donor class that can never ever relate to real Americans, then many common Americans have been cast aside and replaced as well.

Speaker 3 Okay, I personally like Marjorie Green. She's been on the show before.
I don't mean any of this personally. Just putting on my cold political analyst glasses here.

Speaker 3 This is an amazing turn of events for the president. Because what we were talking about earlier with Mom Donnie, everyone's been saying, oh, Trump, he's a lame duck.

Speaker 3 He's lost control of the Republican Party. He's not the star of the the show anymore.
He's not calling the shots. People are moving on to 2028.
Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 3 Trump just personally destroyed Marjorie Taylor Greene's political career. He personally did that.

Speaker 3 He is the sole reason that she is quitting Congress right now. Marjorie Taylor Greene has had a number of lives in politics.
She started out, she was that rock-ribbed, pro-MAGA, right-wing superstar.

Speaker 3 Then, you remember during the speaker fight in Congress, during the speaker fight, she

Speaker 3 cozied up a little bit more to the leadership of the Congress. And so she

Speaker 3 kind of softened the edges of that rock-ribbed, belligerent right-winger, and she cozied up. She voted for McCarthy to be speaker.
But she was still rock-ribbed, pro-Trump, all the rest of it.

Speaker 3 But there was some friction with the White House. She was needling Trump on certain things.

Speaker 3 Trump signaled that he was not so happy with her, that he might bring his political machine against her if she kept it up. Then she goes on CNN

Speaker 3 and she tries to get a little more audience. Although I'm speaking in the terms of the media, but try to get a little more constituency, a little bit more support, a little bit more juice there.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry, I shouldn't have contributed to this harshness of politics. You see a little more of a pivot to moderate, all to

Speaker 3 keep that political career going.

Speaker 3 And now she's saying, all right, I'm quitting Congress. Trump, you win.
What did it take?

Speaker 3 This is very, again, put Marjorie aside for a second.

Speaker 3 She and I have always gotten along just fine. Plenty of people like Marjorie Greene.

Speaker 3 Just

Speaker 3 consider this. Everyone's saying that Trump is a lame duck and he doesn't have any juice anymore.
It took one truth social post from President Trump.

Speaker 3 And this woman, who was one of the rising stars of the Republican Party, she's done because of one truth social post from Trump saying that he was going to primary her in her district. That was it.

Speaker 3 She admits that. She says, I don't want to subject my district to a bruising primary.

Speaker 3 Now she spins it and she says, because I would win that primary, but then, you know, I'd be really upset about having had to fight with Trump and I don't want to defend him anymore. And so I'm out.

Speaker 3 Maybe that's true. Maybe she would have lost the primary.
We don't, I guess we'll never know because she's quitting. because Trump threatened to primary her.

Speaker 3 The top takeaway doesn't have to be personal about Marjorie Green at all. The top takeaway is that Trump is still calling the shots.
Trump is still the head of the Republican Party.

Speaker 3 Trump is still the dynamic force in American politics. And even I didn't know if that would be the case at this stage in the cycle because it's his second term.

Speaker 3 So it's a weird one because it's a non-consecutive second term, but we're in the second term. And so at this stage,

Speaker 3 a re-elected president, a president in his second term, should be losing his mojo, should be losing his juice, especially going into the midterms.

Speaker 3 And that could have been the case for Trump, and it's just not. Not yet, anyway.

Speaker 3 Very, very impressive. So where does the Republican Party stand? Where's the conservative movement stand?

Speaker 3 Elon has just revealed to us that a lot of the pro-America or at least America politics obsessed Twitter accounts are foreigners.

Speaker 3 They're not actually from America. And he did this because now when you click on part of the profile, you can see where the accounts are based and where the accounts are connected.

Speaker 3 And so there's one account, for instance, the at American, and it's a bald eagle over an American flag. At American account

Speaker 3 joined Twitter in 2007. Hold on, go back, go back.

Speaker 3 I just started talking about this. They changed my picture.
There we go. The at American account.

Speaker 3 joined in March 2007

Speaker 3 and the account is based in South Asia.

Speaker 3 And it had one username change in 2018. Who knows? It might have been a bigger account that they sold.
We don't really know the history of it. Connected via the South Asia App Store.

Speaker 3 So it's not even as though this is just someone who happened to go on vacation to, I don't know, India or something. No, no.
This is kind of based there and connected via the app store there.

Speaker 3 What's the other Times of Gaza? A lot of this has had to do with the Israel-Gaza war. So the Times of Gaza account,

Speaker 3 just posting from on the ground, these Palestinian journalists, It joined in November 2018 in West Asia. So what, Pakistan or something?

Speaker 3 Turkey, account based in East Asia and the Pacific. It's been verified since January of last year.
Three name changes, so we don't know what it was before. It was Times of Gaza.

Speaker 3 Connected via the North Africa App Store.

Speaker 3 So it's like everywhere other than Gaza. Okay.

Speaker 3 What about

Speaker 3 there's one tweet. It was really funny.
It's this white family, and they say that they've converted to Islam. And it looks pretty AI, but this is from Martin.

Speaker 3 Dee Martin says, just four days ago, I announced my conversion to Islam with my wife Jessica here in Los Angeles. American flag.

Speaker 3 Since then, I've received threats of being fired if I don't leave my faith. But I'll never back down.
I've submitted to Allah and I stand firm no matter the cost.

Speaker 3 And you look at this and you're like, this is truly AI slop. Like it's not even a good picture of converting to Islam.
Then you find out that this account, De Martin, where is it based?

Speaker 3 Give me the location. Joined in September of this year.
So it joined two months ago. Account based in West Asia.
Not Los Angeles. Not the U.S.

Speaker 3 Verified since last month. Two name changes connected via West Asia.
Okay, so

Speaker 3 what does this tell us? It tells us something, but

Speaker 3 people are reaching for all the wrong conclusions.

Speaker 3 It tells us that we're in the midst of an information war, obviously. We're in the midst of an information war in the United States.

Speaker 3 And so foreign actors are going to try to manipulate that information war.

Speaker 3 However, there is a great deal of copium being injected straight into the veins by people who don't want to admit that the political parties are shifting, who don't want to admit that Americans' opinions on various issues, including Israel and the Middle East and foreign policy generally, are shifting.

Speaker 3 They don't want to admit it. So what they're going to conclude, and it's a hodgepodge of boomers, Gen X, radically pro-Israel people, neoconservatives.
What they want to conclude is this is all an op.

Speaker 3 The apparent fighting over U.S.

Speaker 3 foreign policy between the interventionists and the isolationists, between the Zionists and the anti-Zionists, between the imperialists and the nationalists, blah, blah, blah, that that's all an op.

Speaker 3 And it's just because some bad actors from Iran and Qatar and Pakistan and India, they're just manipulating us on Twitter and it's all fake.

Speaker 3 And that is not the case. I went through just even in my own mentions and in other tweets to see, okay, some of the other big accounts that are pushing these shifts, are they all from elsewhere?

Speaker 3 Are they all from India? Are they all from Turkey? And no, they're not. A lot of them are from the United States.

Speaker 3 There's obviously a foreign information war going on. That's true.
But you have to ask yourself the next question.

Speaker 3 Why do information wars work? Why do people wage them in the first place? It's not to just totally brainwash people. It's not even to plant new ideas in people's minds.

Speaker 3 It's to exacerbate existing tensions.

Speaker 3 That's how information wars really work well, is when there are already tensions over foreign policy intervention versus isolation, over supporting Israel versus not supporting Israel versus outright opposing Israel.

Speaker 3 When there are already tensions, when there are classically during the

Speaker 3 Cold War, the Soviet Union exploited racial tensions in the United States, to great effect.

Speaker 3 It's not just that the communist agitator groups, largely backed by the USSR, the KGB even in the 60s and 70s, it's not that they invented the idea of racial strife in America.

Speaker 3 It's that they exploited it and it worked. There were race riots.
There were all sorts of battles that took place. There were radical racial groups.
That's what's happening here.

Speaker 3 The information war has worked

Speaker 3 because of the underlying tensions. And a lot of...

Speaker 3 of that may look sure there are plenty of foreign accounts but a lot of the the fighting on twitter especially especially, is from American accounts. And those tensions really do exist.

Speaker 3 And the Republican Party and the conservative movement, they can bury their heads in the sand and take the copian and say it's all the Turks and the Qataris and the Indians, but it's silly.

Speaker 3 There is a real division brewing.

Speaker 3 We've seen it on the internet, especially over Israel, but... over foreign policy generally, over migration, over the economy in some cases.

Speaker 3 And the GOP and the conservative movement are going going to have to deal with that.

Speaker 3 So they can, they can either, they can say, okay, it's no, it's not real, la, la, la, la, la, it's just the Qataris, la, la, la, but that will be

Speaker 3 to their own peril because the foreign actors were smart. They exploited things that already exist.
And the GOP needs an answer for that.

Speaker 3 Some people are going to look at this and they're just going to say, look, that's the copium from the boomers and the neocons and the very pros, real people, and all the rest.

Speaker 3 There's another kind of copium, though, from the nationalists, which is they say, well, look, these foreigners have no right to interfere in American policy, and it's crazy that they're doing that, and we just need to stop it.

Speaker 3 That also is insufficient. I'm not at all surprised that foreigners are trying to interfere in American politics.
We're the global empire. That's what happens.

Speaker 3 You want to talk about the problems in the Levant specifically, Israel, Palestine, Gaza, all that?

Speaker 3 Every empire that has ever controlled that region has understood it to be a very troublesome province. Okay.
And we're now the empire that controls the world.

Speaker 3 And we might not be that forever, and we might not want to be that, and we might not have planned to be that, but we just are. Okay, that's a fact.

Speaker 3 So, yes, of course, foreigners are going to fight over it. That's what happens within empires.

Speaker 3 There's no shortcut. People are going to look at this revelation and they're going to say, oh, good, that fixes all of my problems.
Now we see it's all fake. It's all foreign.
It's all an op.

Speaker 3 Never mind. Move on.
Nothing to see here. No, no, there's a lot to see here.

Speaker 3 The fact that foreigners are interfering to some degree only tells you that the problems are that manifest. Okay.

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Speaker 9 Welcome to Bar Fight.

Speaker 9 Tonight I'm joined by two libs.

Speaker 8 That's my case. I think it's a pretty good one.

Speaker 9 My first guest, that is Zina Ikeme.

Speaker 8 You've been calling me a lib this whole time. I hate to break it to you.
It might be a little bit worse than that.

Speaker 9 Oh. Just be consistent.
I've been very consistent.

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Speaker 9 My second guest is one of the top names in online liberal commentary today, Luke Beasley.

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Speaker 3 Speaking of Barfight, amazing, amazing show flow.

Speaker 3 I made a claim. This was a week ago on Barfight.

Speaker 3 We were debating illegal immigration and entitlements and Social Security. And I said that illegal aliens steal Social Security numbers

Speaker 3 and they do that in order to get employment. So even when the left says, look, I don't want to count illegal immigration as a crime.

Speaker 3 If you take out the actual act of crossing the border, illegal aliens don't commit crimes. You say, well, hold on.
They steal social security numbers, right? That's a crime.

Speaker 11 Do illegal aliens pay federal taxes?

Speaker 10 Yeah, actually, they do. They do.

Speaker 13 They have tax and income tax often.

Speaker 10 90s.

Speaker 13 Actually, the IRS is a whole system for people who are undocumented to file taxes.

Speaker 10 Okay, so I'm glad.

Speaker 13 And by the way, economists overwhelmingly believe that immigration, including illegal immigration, is a net positive. Forget about that.

Speaker 10 I just have one question.

Speaker 12 I have one question for you.

Speaker 11 Because if you make the point, as you have, that actually, you know, illegal aliens, even though they don't have Social Security numbers, they do pay federal taxes because

Speaker 11 to get employment, employment, sometimes they'll use other Social Security numbers. So they don't get the benefits, but they do pay into the system.
That's a fact.

Speaker 12 Yeah, okay. That's a federal crime.

Speaker 13 42 U.S. Code, Section 408.

Speaker 10 It's a federal crime to steal a Social Security number.

Speaker 10 So there you go. You got it.

Speaker 10 I just want to be clear.

Speaker 13 I just want to be clear.

Speaker 10 Stealing in the Social Security number, which he just admitted is a crime.

Speaker 3 Okay. So.
The rejoinder to that, after I caught the libs in that unfortunate problem for them, they said, well, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. They're the illegal aliens.

Speaker 3 Yeah, sure, some of them steal social security numbers, but mostly what they do is there's a separate system for them to

Speaker 3 pay into their taxes so they try not to get deported. And it's really, it's not generally that they steal the social security numbers.
So,

Speaker 3 unfortunately, here in my New York Times article, the whole headline is cut off, but the headline was something to the effect of two men, one identity, they both paid the price.

Speaker 3 Two men, one identity, they both paid the price. And it's this white guy, this like just American, and some illegal alien Hispanic.

Speaker 3 And the name is a white guy name, because it's two men, one identity, it's the white guy's identity. And the illegal alien stole that identity, and now they're both paying the price.

Speaker 3 Thousands of undocumented workers rely on fraudulent social security numbers. One of them belonged to Dan Kluver.

Speaker 3 Okay, what's the story here?

Speaker 3 This illegal alien had multiple arrests, several DUIs, as a lot of illegal aliens do, which is one reason that illegal aliens kill a lot of Americans, three deportations, but he sneaks back into the country again and again and again,

Speaker 3 and he stands, he steals Dan Cluver's identity. And now they both pay the price.

Speaker 3 This guy, Dan Cluver, he's got all the, he gets pulled over, he's got all these problems, all these crimes attributed to him. And Dan Kluver says, I didn't do any of that.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 And it's because an illegal alien steals his identity. And then the New York Times comes out and places both men together, side by side, and pretends that they are equivalent.

Speaker 3 Pretends that the identity doesn't even belong to one of the men. So, oh, it's just, isn't this,

Speaker 3 immigration, isn't it so tough?

Speaker 3 Oh, you know, it's like in immigration, you got like the Native Americans who want to keep their identity, but you got the illegal aliens who break our most basic laws immediately.

Speaker 3 And, you know, they got to steal the identity. They got to, right? Because they want to commit more crimes.
So it's like immigration politics, am I right? It's like, what are you going to do?

Speaker 3 Sometimes you want to keep your identity. Sometimes you want to steal some guy's identity.
It's like, what are we going to do? We're all just people, man, you know?

Speaker 3 Now they're both paying the price because the one guy, the American guy, had his life ruined. And the illegal alien now might have to pay for some of his crimes.

Speaker 3 It's like consequences, you know, it's just like awful. It's just like awful, man.

Speaker 3 This is,

Speaker 3 this is as perfectly New York Times as it gets. Just perfect.

Speaker 3 And it shows you exactly what the elite media and the elite political class think of Americans. You can have a case that is as open as shut as it gets.

Speaker 3 American, total victim in every way. Illegal alien, cartoonishly villainous, criminal, just does every wrong thing.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 the most fair that the New York Times will be is to say that they're basically equal. I'm sure what they want to say is that the white guy's evil and the illegal alien is the hero.

Speaker 3 They can't quite do that here.

Speaker 3 The most fair coverage you're going to see is, well, they're basically equal.

Speaker 3 Which brings us to the State Department's very, very important point.

Speaker 3 This issue of mass migration is arguably the most important issue, not just in the United States, but throughout the West. We'll get to that momentarily first.

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Speaker 3 My favorite comment yesterday is from Jim Bob the Builder757. It says, Michael, you got to hand it to these Somalis, Minnesota taxpayers, way ahead of you, Mike.

Speaker 3 You got to, we've been handing it to them for a long time.

Speaker 3 And they've been handing our money to al-Shabaab, which makes the Minnesota taxpayer the single largest donor to a Muslim terror group in the Middle East. Okay.
Or in Somalia, I suppose.

Speaker 3 State Department comes out on this point. So this has the imprimatur of the federal government.

Speaker 3 Mass migration poses an existential threat to Western civilization and undermines the stability of key American allies. Today, the State Department instructed U.S.

Speaker 3 embassies to report on the human rights implications and public safety impacts of mass migration.

Speaker 3 Mass migration is a human rights concern. Western nations have endured crime waves, terror attacks, sexual assaults, and displacement of communities.
U.S.

Speaker 3 officials will urge governments to take bold action and defend citizens against the threats posed by mass migration.

Speaker 3 Officials will also report policies that punish citizens who object to continued mass migration and document crimes and human rights abuses committed by people of a migration background.

Speaker 3 Because one of the issues is...

Speaker 3 You have this mass migration being brought into the West for reasons that we'll get to in a second. And then the moment that the chuds, you know, the moment that the

Speaker 3 regular dudes in these countries, in all these countries, oppose mass migration and they object in any way,

Speaker 3 they are punished. They're punished by their culture, they're fired from their jobs, they're punished at their schools, or they're prosecuted.

Speaker 3 In countries that have less robust protections for speech, they're actually prosecuted.

Speaker 3 You're not even allowed to object to the policies that the elites are cramming down our throats.

Speaker 3 In the United Kingdom, thousands of girls have been victimized in Rotherham, Oxford, and Newcastle by grooming gangs involving migrant men.

Speaker 3 Many girls were left to suffer unspeakable abuse for years before authorities stepped in. We've covered that on the show.

Speaker 3 In Sweden, an Eritrean migrant convicted of raping a 16-year-old girl was allowed to remain in the country after a judge ruled that the incident was not an exceptionally serious crime and did not warrant deportation.

Speaker 3 That's true. I think we covered that one too.

Speaker 3 Eritrean migrant rapes a teenage girl. And the judge says, oh, it's not, it's not all that serious.
Or it's at least not exceptional because all these migrants are raping little kids.

Speaker 3 In Germany, nine men, several of whom were migrants, were convicted for the gang rape of a 15-year-old girl.

Speaker 3 A German woman who insulted one of the rapists online was given a harsher sentence than the perpetrators themselves. It's a real story.

Speaker 3 So what's the upside? What are we getting at with the State Department? The U.S. officials will now scrutinize policies

Speaker 3 in Western nations that give leniency to migrant crime and human rights abuses, or they create two-tiered systems that prioritize migrants at the expense of their own citizens.

Speaker 3 The United States supports the sovereignty of our allies and calls on governments to constructively engage with the growing number of citizens concerned about mass migration. The U.S.

Speaker 3 stands ready to to assist

Speaker 3 in solving the global crisis of mass migration. Previously, what our elites told us was that mass migration was the solution to other crises, crises of war and the need for refuge and whatever,

Speaker 3 climate change, climate refugees. And now our State Department is accurately saying mass migration is the crisis.
This is a big crisis. We talked about shifting Republican and conservative thoughts.

Speaker 3 on all sorts of issues. A big one is on migration.
Used to be that the debate was between whether on the left we wanted more legal immigration and more illegal immigration. No human is illegal.

Speaker 3 Borders are evil, whatever, that view. And then on the right,

Speaker 3 the view that we wanted less illegal immigration, but still more legal immigration. Those were the two views you were allowed to have.

Speaker 3 There was left-wing view, there was a right-wing view. There's a third view that

Speaker 3 is certainly my opinion, has been my stated opinion for many, many years now. And I think it's the majority opinion in the country, which is we need drastically less migration overall.

Speaker 3 And for the people who are beating up on Trump because they're saying his deportations aren't enough, this is the first year that we are on track to have net negative migration in like 50 years, okay?

Speaker 3 So the people who are just casting stones from the sidelines are jokes, as far as I'm concerned, because Trump is the first guy to actually get this done in half a century.

Speaker 3 And we need it to increase and we need it around the world.

Speaker 3 And because we're the global empire and because the people running our country recognize that, as Trump Trump with his proper American first vision understands that, they're saying, well, hold on.

Speaker 3 We are a global empire. We provide the military

Speaker 3 coverage for the entire West. And we are the world police.
And we have military centers all over the world.

Speaker 3 Because of that, let's use our power for good and not just stupid stuff like regime change wars to plant Madisonian democracy in Iraq or not just to, I don't know, overthrow governments that aren't sufficiently protecting LGBTism or what.

Speaker 3 Let's do it for some good here. Let's maybe protect, let's protect Christians.
We can get to that story in a second in Nigeria.

Speaker 3 Or let's, I don't know, at the very least, stop the invasion of our countries by political Islam, which has been trying to invade the West for 1,400 years.

Speaker 3 And we've mostly managed to push them back, and now we're just inviting them in. It's totally crazy.
Someone needs to stop it. And

Speaker 3 we need the political vision to stop it. Few people have that these days.
And the political courage. But it's it.

Speaker 3 And I think any conservative politician, any politician, period, who doesn't take seriously the problems of migration as such, not just illegal immigration, not just people who violate certain procedures, but migration as such is going to flop in the coming years.

Speaker 3 Now, speaking of threats to Western civilization, Woke Preacher Clips, a very funny account, has just posted a very frustrating and ridiculous video.

Speaker 3 A little error, though, because it was reported that, well, you'll see why in momentarily, that this woman, preacher, preacherette, priestess,

Speaker 3 is a Catholic priest.

Speaker 3 Here's what she has to say.

Speaker 14 Here are some things this clerical color does not allow me to do. One, ignore systemic injustice.

Speaker 14 My faith demands that I advocate for the marginalized. And that means speaking out whenever I see injustice or harm taking place within our communities.

Speaker 14 A second thing this clerical color does not allow me to do is worry about rules more than people.

Speaker 14 Now, I love Catholicism and my apostolic Catholic faith,

Speaker 14 but that doesn't mean that rules and liturgy should come before people.

Speaker 14 This caller also won't let me see a border as something to separate me from other people.

Speaker 14 This means speaking up for immigrants, for the stranger, for the foreigner, welcoming those, and speaking out when harms are being perpetuated against those communities, which is happening right now.

Speaker 3 Okay, Okay, so this is a Catholic priest. Forget, I mean, whatever.
It's just some ridiculous liberal diatribe. She's wearing some rainbow thing, not in the biblical sense of rainbow, I think.

Speaker 3 But what I want to talk about is more of the caption. This is a Catholic priest, because for those of you who don't follow

Speaker 3 ecclesiology or church history very closely, that woman is not a Catholic priest.

Speaker 3 I'm quite confident she's not a Catholic priestess because the Catholic Church does not ordain women and cannot ordain women. Many other Protestant denominations, et cetera, have ordained women.

Speaker 3 The Catholic Church does not do that and cannot do that. The priesthood is male.
Period. Full stop.
End of story.

Speaker 3 Some people in modernity, on the left and the right, have trouble understanding this for two reasons.

Speaker 3 On the left, the reason they have trouble understanding this is because They believe that our identity comes from our self-definition.

Speaker 3 So they say, well, this woman identifies as a Catholic priest, so she is. Who are you to say she's not a Catholic priest? She identifies that way, so she is.

Speaker 3 That's the left-wing objection, kind of silly, because the Catholic Church doesn't really care about your self-identity all that much, certainly if you don't have a correct self-identity.

Speaker 3 But even some people on the right, especially non-Catholics, will object and they'll say, well, you know, listen, she...

Speaker 3 There are plenty of Catholics who would like women priests. And she's got some kind of congregation, I guess.
And so, you know, really?

Speaker 3 Maybe she, in a way, she kind of is Catholic, you know?

Speaker 3 Listen, or it's only a matter of time before it's cat, before Catholics have women priests. Or look, people want it.
You can see public opinion.

Speaker 3 Actually, public opinion is not moving in the direction of women priests, but let's say it were. Let's say it were.

Speaker 3 This also fundamentally misunderstands authority because we live in a modern, liberal, democratic age.

Speaker 3 And even people who are on the right have trouble understanding pre-modern, non-democratic forms of authority, authority period, as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 3 Not to put too fine a point on it, every single lay Catholic in the world could desire and choose to recognize so-called women priests.

Speaker 3 That woman still would not be a priest because it's not up to them. because the Catholic Church is not a democracy, because the voice of the people is not actually the voice of God.

Speaker 3 Now, a better objection would be, well, you know, listen, there are some crazy bishops out there, and we've had some bad popes too. And what would happen?

Speaker 3 Just you wait until enough liberal bishops get in there and maybe a liberal pope and the pope decides they're going to be women priests.

Speaker 3 This too misunderstands authority in the church. and misunderstands papal infallibility because the pope, we Catholics believe, the pope is infallible

Speaker 3 when he teaches on certain things in certain circumstances. He's not infallible on all things, in all cases, in all circumstances.

Speaker 3 He has the ability to teach infallibly on certain matters in certain circumstances.

Speaker 3 And we have come to this conclusion throughout the history of the church because of the very principle of Catholicity, the universality of the church, because of the historical deference to Rome as the place where Peter and Paul went, as they were sent there, and

Speaker 3 where the seat of Peter remains today.

Speaker 3 Papal infallibility does not mean that the Pope could come out and say, I don't know, declare a fourth person of the Trinity. Okay, he couldn't.

Speaker 3 The Pope could come out and say, I believe there's a fourth person. It probably wouldn't happen, but he couldn't do that.

Speaker 3 The Pope has the ability. to teach, to clarify things that are true and that

Speaker 3 are manifest within within the church's 2,000-year history and tradition. The Pope can't just like make stuff up.
Okay.

Speaker 3 And we have so much trouble

Speaker 3 in our modern age understanding authority, even on the right, that we fall for this stuff. But there are no priestesses.

Speaker 3 I know it is the case that many denominations work that way, where if enough people want something, then they get it, or the church splits and they get two new churches or whatever. But

Speaker 3 that's not how this institution works, which is why, despite all of the knavish imbecility that has characterized some of its governance for 2,000 years,

Speaker 3 that is why, in my opinion, that's one of the reasons why, in my opinion, it remains. It's the only institution from antiquity that remains in the West.
Maybe there's a reason for that. Okay.

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Speaker 3 Really important Catholic story, actually. Nigerian Catholic kids were just kidnapped.
Ton of them were kidnapped.

Speaker 3 Please pray for them. We don't have time to get in.
I'm way late today, but we don't have time to get into the whole story today. We'll get to it tomorrow.
Pray for them in the meantime.

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