PMS 2.0 1476 - Merry Quizmas, MNF Recap, BA Day with Bruce Arians, Oregon Head Coach Dan Lanning, Dan Orlovsky, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

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On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys are joined by 3x Super Bowl Super Bowl Champion, and former HC of the Arizona Cardinals and Tampa Bay Bucs, Bruce Arians as they recap Monday Night Football and the 49ers rolling the Colts, and AQ and BA square off in a Merry Quizmas. Also joining the progrum is the Head Coach of the Oregon Ducks, Dan Lanning, to chat about their win over James Madison, and their upcoming game against the Texas Tech Red Raiders. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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Speaker 1 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our Holly Jolly humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Merry Christmas Tuesday, December 23rd, 2025, this program begins now.

Speaker 1 Football!

Speaker 1 It's magical and last night wasn't the greatest time watching the Indianapolis Colts defense not be able to stop the San Francisco 49ers offense as the San Francisco 49ers continue their road to maybe the number one overall seed in the NFC in a massive win in the Laddhouse beating the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 1 And I'll tell you what, boots on the ground, we're in the building. It was electrifying, the halftime show.

Speaker 1 Red Panda buried six bulls on top of her head as they tried to light her up in the middle of her back switch. Okay, so I will say the Extreme Pogo team from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

Speaker 1 crushed it. The Jugglers from Peru, Indiana absolutely crushed it.
And Red Panda crushed, obviously that's what she does. The drumline did their thing.

Speaker 1 It was a spectacular evening in Lucas Oil stadium anytime you have red panda at the 50 with 75 000 sounded like maybe 25 30 000 san francisco 49ers fans as well everybody was at attention that's only five bowls she would go on to do six bowls obviously it was a special time

Speaker 1 lights i don't like that

Speaker 1 because there is a halftime ending time i think the nfl indicates when it is so you actually heard the emcee uh in the stadium the PA announcer, come out and say, that's the halftime carnival.

Speaker 1 And it was like, no, it's not. We're all watching Red Panda right now about to hit the grand finale here.
And Red Panda didn't have her normal music. It was a different remix, different songs.

Speaker 1 She wasn't on her normal platform. She was out in the middle of a turf field on top of a stage that was kind of just put on top of it.
She had the lights go on in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 No music at all, because I think she does do rhythm. Like, I think that is kind of her thing.
No music at all. Warm-ups back on the field, basically.
And she delivers six for six up there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think Red Panda's throwing a fastball and so is Brock Purdy. Watching him deal all night was insane because you don't really realize the size of Brock Purdy until you see him.
He is not tall.

Speaker 1 Okay. He is not tall at all.
I would say what Brock Purdy is able to do is so much more impressive because of how he is built. He is built like an ox.
Now he is, he's thick.

Speaker 1 He's obviously an incredible athlete, but there are plenty of times where he can't see a damn thing and he is just throwing it to a spot at a time, and every time seemed to be right on the money.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Jawan Jennings touchdown was right in front of our face. It appeared as if he was throwing that late and out of bounds.

Speaker 1 Instead, perfect fingertip grab by Jawan Jennings, who's also a monster, I would like to say. Now, he was playing against a guy wearing number 43 at corner.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, so no offense to him, but he had a long night. Our corners certainly had a long night.
But I think a lot of corners are going to have problems with the way Brock Purdy is spinning it.

Speaker 1 Don't like the, it's Christmas Christmas week.

Speaker 1 We don't need to be doing actual branching.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 It was very smooth, too. Like, it was very

Speaker 1 perfectly executed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a good sell. Juwan Jennings, yeah, he's about it for sure.
But what I took away from last night, Brock Purdy is

Speaker 1 remarkable. Like, obviously they paid him $200 million for a reason.

Speaker 1 And what that offense looks like with him at quarterback as opposed to anybody else is crazy that I was even potentially leading into a conversation that maybe Mac Jones would be a quarterback for this team going forward.

Speaker 1 He's outrageous. George Kittle, seemingly unguardable.
He had an ankle late. I texted with him afterwards, said, that's cool that you're just unguardable today.
And he saw you.

Speaker 1 He figured, I was like, don't you start. Okay, you knew I was going to have to be there.
Obviously, it's an Indianapolis Colts thing. I think we all assume George Kittle is going to be okay.

Speaker 1 I think he walked off the field. He's an incredibly tough guy.
Watching him block and also be wide open all the time, crazy. Christian McCaffrey, you know, I get tired.

Speaker 1 I don't know how this guy doesn't get tired. He's running on his coconut husk all over the place.
They're giving him the ball all the time. And he seemingly never, ever tired.
And he never celebrates.

Speaker 1 He's just like literally a workhorse. Like that, he is a robot, a machine.
And then you talk about 44, this super genius, Yuszchak, who's a fullback.

Speaker 1 He's all before every play, he's all over the place. And then it's right off his ass, whatever's happening.
It's like Trent Williams. Yeah, right.
This dude's 30 yards down the field.

Speaker 1 He's a 37-year-old. It's like watching that offense.

Speaker 1 I think we forget in this particular space. They can still be the number one seed in the NFC.

Speaker 1 They lose Fred and bosa on the defensive side a lot of us just say like can't win sola's a genius they've got a defense that smothered jonathan taylor i mean we weren't able to run at all 16 carries i think for 46 yards with a longest seven or something like that that is not how we're going to win any games but we could have because bill rivers was out there spinning it bill rivers was breaking down a defense doing his checks so i think if you were to ask me going into a monday night football game with the situation that we're in now no sauce gardener no mooney like what's going to be the downfall you think tonight The easy answer would be the 44-year-old guy.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I like what the Indiana Knights uniform was doing for Phil Rivers.

Speaker 1 He does look good. He does look fat.
We saw him on sideline.

Speaker 1 I thought he was a captain. Yeah, fat PA.
Well, everybody was a captain. I don't know.
I don't think I love the C on everybody's chest, but I understand it is a cool jersey. Everybody should have it.

Speaker 1 And it's the state of Indiana on the inside of the C there, so it's a part of the design thing like that. There it is.

Speaker 1 But like Phil Rivers last night, not only was he dealing and spinning and breaking down defense, they show him on the Jumbotron.

Speaker 1 He got massive thank you, I think, for what he did in 2020 from all of us.

Speaker 1 Literally, this is the first time he ever got a real chance to experience a Lucas Oil Stadium with fans, any Colts fans at all.

Speaker 1 They put him up on the Jumbotron, and every single time it was like, hey, thank you, Phil, for doing what you're doing. And also what you did do whenever we were all trapped inside watching from afar.

Speaker 1 He also got into it. Let's go.
Let's go, baby. Doing it all.
So the fact that we lost because we couldn't get a stop, I mean, he had no punts. No.

Speaker 1 No punts at all we did have a turnover which i guess is possible in the brock pretty offense especially throwing over to the middle with his size that is the tiny disadvantage but i think everything else that brock purdy does is elite i i mean it was just an elite operation watching him live in person d butt your thoughts from watching it defense not able to get a stop Phil Rivers in the offense, I think, managed.

Speaker 1 Special teams turnover made it a shootout, I think, early for all of us. Can't have it.
Your takeaway from last night?

Speaker 3 Yeah, defense. Our defense was definitely the most disappointing.
You talked about the injuries injuries that we have at corner, but, you know, everybody's dealing with injuries at week 16.

Speaker 3 But yeah, the San Francisco 49 offense, it was just a well-oiled machine. Brock Purdy, it seemed like he was hitting, you know, whatever he wanted.
It looked like routes on air.

Speaker 3 So you talk about Shanahan's offense, just how comfortable Brock Purdy is in it. He can make all the throws.

Speaker 3 And then when the throw is in there or the pocket breaks down, he can break the pocket and make a throw as well. But he had matchups.
He had matchups all over the place.

Speaker 3 Obviously, you know, not many linebackers in the NFL can guard. Christian McCaffrey 101 took advantage of that.

Speaker 3 George Kittle, you mentioned if he didn't get hurt, he probably was on his way to a career day, just like Brock Purdy was with five touchdown passes. So it was tough.
They came out.

Speaker 3 Look, Phil, Phil came out, gave us a chance. First play of the game.
He took a shot down to Phil. We're like, okay, I like that.
You sent it a message earlier. Don't sit on everything.

Speaker 3 Don't keep everything tight. And had Alec Pierce involved early.
He had two touchdowns. Offense showed up and tried.
Once again, the run game was smothered.

Speaker 3 Hats off to Phillip Rivers. This is one of those things that people or us, we sit on the couch couch maybe a year, maybe two, maybe three years after.
Maybe I can get back out there and do something.

Speaker 3 To see him doing this five years removed from the game at 44 years old is unbelievable. His family being in the suite, that was big suite, obviously.

Speaker 1 It was unfortunate. Huge.

Speaker 3 You know, we got our ass kicked like we did, man. This was a tough, tough watch in that second half.

Speaker 1 Phil Rivers, also last person out of the locker room. He was in there with Jonathan Taylor.
Obviously, Jonathan Taylor has rough night. He was talked about as an MVP earlier in the year.

Speaker 1 Not really as much now.

Speaker 1 Tyler Warren, also not as big of a detriment as he was earlier in the season not for a lack of trying though they were trying to feed him Tyler Warren took like four massive shots

Speaker 1 I think Tyler Warren's gonna fall into the category of like Gronk because he's so big yeah people you're you're a lot of space for huge shots like Gronk used to take huge collisions and you know he was so athletic and

Speaker 1 nobody really judged it but he would be getting smacked and just continue to go I think Tyler Warren's going to fall into that with his career.

Speaker 1 I'm excited to see how that all goes because he obviously has a lot of potential. And potential is a great word for this Niners team.
I'm watching them and I'm like,

Speaker 1 I don't know, are they a really good football team? Like,

Speaker 1 they can do it. What about the defense?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like they can do it. What they did, now, granted, Phil Rivers had success.
Yeah. So people are going to say, a guy that was on a couch for five years had success against your defense.

Speaker 1 You don't have Bosey. You don't have Warner.
They're going to hold that against them.

Speaker 1 But remember, Phil Rivers, Seattle, also potentially the number one CNC last week comes down to a 56-yard field goal.

Speaker 1 It's like the guy can still spin it and he still understands what your defense is doing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like there's things that he's going to be able to accomplish. So I think people that are just kind of saying, Phil Rivers is ass cheek.

Speaker 1 So if he's having success against you, that doesn't mean you're good. It's like, I think they were able to tighten down.
Remember, the thing about them was they give up the run. They give up the run.

Speaker 1 They give up the run. They were dominating us up front in the run game.

Speaker 1 I mean, Jonathan Taylor, maybe earlier in the season, would have been able to escape some of those things with maybe like a bounce out or something like that, bounce off.

Speaker 1 But there was little to nothing. I mean, there was little to nothing for Jonathan Taylor.
And then on the flip side, Christian McCaffrey, this dude sees a hole

Speaker 1 and it is cannon, actually. And he doesn't, he gets up and just like kicks his shoes, kicks his cleats to make sure they're tight still.
And then he just walks right back to the huddle.

Speaker 1 It's not like, oh, I just had my longest run of the year, 24 yards, which he did last night. He had the longest run of his season at 24 yards or something like that, late in the game.

Speaker 1 Here it is right here off of the left. And he just doesn't even care, just gets back in there.
Hey, we're going to give you the ball 100 more times. Doesn't care, just gets back in there.

Speaker 1 and he's healthy. He was unbelievable to watch live.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and it's crazy what he does in the past game. I think he's 163 yards away from 1,000 yards receiving.
He went over 1,000 yards rushing.

Speaker 2 He'd be the first player ever with multiple seasons of both 1,000 yards receiving and rushing. But they do.
They have one of, if not the most complete offense in the NFL.

Speaker 2 I think the big worry to what you guys were just talking about is with how completely complete some of the other teams are in the NFC on offense and defense. That's where you struggle.

Speaker 2 But, I mean, with the two games they have left both at home, everyone's already said it this week.

Speaker 2 They can just play home games all the way through the Super Bowl, and that is a huge possibility.

Speaker 2 But the other thing that impressed me with Brock Purdy, that was insane, is it's almost as if he knows what his matchups are as well.

Speaker 2 Like, whether it's zone or not, this one right here, like, he knows, hey, Kittle's down there, and he trusts his guy over whatever linebacker or safety or corner, yeah, are there.

Speaker 2 And that's almost even more impressive.

Speaker 1 Like, sure, he knows his spots to throw to but he also knows like yep whoever's on my guy here i feel like my guy's gonna win you know you lose one sense you gain another the pest said it john leguizamo he doesn't have the size okay that some people have so he has to have everything else at a very high level understanding a defense pre-snap is certainly one of those things digesting it and also knowing what the best option is for the offense that you're about to run certainly a part of it his command of the huddle too i mean i mean it's like trem williams yeah

Speaker 1 that was his big takeaway bro you watch him He's like, because obviously Trent Williams, these dudes are all gigantic. Kittle, fucking gigantic.
CMC is

Speaker 1 an actual superhero build. Jennings, you mentioned.
All of them are big. So Purdy in that huddle, like where we're sitting at,

Speaker 1 anytime he's thrown in a pocket,

Speaker 1 he cannot see who's getting the ball. He is just assuming, old buddy, because of the pre-snap read, because of what is supposed to happen, where we've worked on it so much.

Speaker 1 It's like watching him break it down. And I know the immediate comparison would be Drew Brees, but it's like Drew Brees had to be cerebral.
Drew Brees had to have perfect timing.

Speaker 1 Drew Brees had to have all these things. Good finding of windows.
That's a talent that not everybody has of where you can throw through. Even taller quarterbacks struggle with that.

Speaker 1 If you can't get it past a D-line, it's like Brock Birdie has to have super elite, all that shit, because he doesn't have the six foot four frame that some quarterbacks have to have, especially behind that offensive line that they have.

Speaker 1 But everything else watching, it's like, this guy's special. Like, this is a special talent.
The moxie, bro, the bounce that he has in between plays it's like

Speaker 3 he looked like a 50 million dollar quarterback yes yeah

Speaker 3 when you think about a quarterback that's making 50 million dollars that's what it looks like and obviously you know him being small you talk about these different quarterbacks having their different superpowers his post snap and pre-snap operation has been his superpower he's been small his whole life you know all these guys that get to this level whether it's colleum murray bryce young you know drew brees they've been small their whole whole life just like in other sports so they've been able to maneuver and make it work And he does it.

Speaker 3 And the years prior when he was having these great years, everybody always tried to give someone else the credit. Hey, they got Iuke or they got this guy.
They got that guy.

Speaker 3 And now with them, you know, guys in and out of the lineup and Brock Purdy still doing his thing, it's very, very impressive.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and we've heard, like, you know, since he's come in the league, how good of a teammate he is, how much these guys respect him.

Speaker 4 But to your point, like, over the last couple weeks, since he came back from the injury and he's felt like he's fully healthy, I think we are starting to see a little bit more out of him.

Speaker 4 Like, after he got paid, he's not not just, you know, he might still be that kind of mild-mannered guy who went to Iowa State and doesn't like to be in the limelight, but like you can tell he understands like, this is my team.

Speaker 4 This is my team now. Like, and he's starting to kind of do some of the things that he maybe wasn't doing a couple years ago when it was kind of like a, hey, he's just happy to be here.

Speaker 4 He's got all these weapons. Now I think he understands like, hey, when I'm playing at my best, like I am just as crucial to this offense as a guy like CMC or Kittle or any of these other guys.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Watching it live was outrageous. Now, the immediate shot is the Colts defense is ass.

Speaker 1 Which,

Speaker 1 I mean, once again, I think Brock Prady and the Niners are going to do that two defenses. I think they are going to make teams look like ass.

Speaker 1 I think there's obviously going to be defenses that are going to play well against Brock Predty, and there's going to be games where they're not clicking.

Speaker 1 But if they are clicking on all cylinders, which it felt like they were, CMC was going, George was going, Uszchek was going, Brock was going, the offensive line was going.

Speaker 1 Now, granted, is that because of the defense or is that because they were all balling on a Monday night?

Speaker 1 Yeah, whatever the case. But the Colts could not get a stop to save their lives.

Speaker 1 I mean, that was, and it's an interesting thing because against Sam Darnold just a week ago, against the Seattle Seahawks, they weren't bad. No,

Speaker 1 they kept it very, very low. Walk-off field goal.
And that was without DeForest Buckner. We get DeForest Buckner back this week.
We still don't have corners.

Speaker 1 Brock Purdy and Shannon, I think, knew that.

Speaker 1 I think they certainly knew that they could potentially get it whenever they want. If we can get CMC rolling as well, that'll be an insane process.
But now the conversation, yeah, zero punts.

Speaker 1 Thomas Moorestead, that guy and I got drafted in the same class.

Speaker 1 That man taught me how to punt right there, Thomas Moorestead. The guy on the right there, he is out of SMU, big brain guy.
I met him at a kicking camp after my junior year.

Speaker 1 And it was my first ever real kicking camp I ever went to. Connor Lee, kicker for Pitt, friend of mine growing up from soccer and beetling and things like that.

Speaker 1 Sean Lee's older brother, he was like, hey, why don't you come out this kicking camp I go to? And I was like, I don't do kicking camps.

Speaker 1 I'm not hanging hanging out with a bunch of these people okay that is not makes sense yeah that is not what i'm trying to get into that is not how i'm trying to spend my life i don't know a lot of them but i know that's not really my thing i don't think he's like come on come on cool people he was right thank god i went out there bunch of cool people jamie cole uh was the guy running the kicking camp and on the first night i as a young lad with a very strong leg,

Speaker 1 always just thought that I could do stuff that nobody else could do with the ball.

Speaker 1 I mean, in high school, I was kicking it on fields where NFL kickers were on, and I was 10 yards behind them booting it over their head.

Speaker 1 So it's like I've always had very, very strong leg here, worked on it, literally spent my entire childhood, most of my childhood, when I wasn't out doing stuff because I didn't play video games because I had ADD, didn't watch movies or TV because Tim had control of the TV usually and it wasn't great.

Speaker 1 And then I got into wrestling and things like that. So I literally just kick a soccer ball off the side of my house.
Saw David Beckham hit like 100 miles an hour in the World Cup.

Speaker 1 I'm like, that's sick. That'd be cool to be able to do.
So I've always had a really strong leg, really, really strong leg.

Speaker 1 Now, granted, because of all that, blew out my knees probably, you know, you know, Rob Peter in the back end to pay Paul up there at the beginning, but I always had a strong leg.

Speaker 1 So I get to this kicking camp and I see on the other field some mule-looking human doing stuff with a ball that I couldn't do punting-wise. And I'm like, who the fuck is that thing over there?

Speaker 1 So I go over and meet him, super nerd out of SMU, okay, but like a tough.

Speaker 1 alpha nerdy dude who has legs that come up to here mom's i believe from england okay so i don't think she wanted to play football he wanted to play football so i think like punt position became the thing because he started kicking.

Speaker 1 And like his entire life, he has been just a punter, like a great punter while also pursuing other things. So he took me under his basic wing and we've hammered hundreds of beers together.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're talking about hundreds of beers together. And he's, he's one of the main reasons why I ever had a punt career, him alongside Jamie Cole.

Speaker 1 And because this is potentially his last year, which is a convo, last night, Jamie Cole and a big group from the the Cole's kicking camp were there to watch him. They hung out.

Speaker 1 I got a chance to see him, take a picture with him. It was just a cool, like full circle type moment.
And he punted zero times. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Which I saw him up here last night.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, a lot of us would have seen him one time. Holding extra points.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's a good one.

Speaker 1 He had a good warm-up, though.

Speaker 1 Great warm-up. I will say for how old he is, okay, he hit a 5-2 and a 5-1 last night.
I think at warm-ups, I was like timing.

Speaker 1 And so was Brant Boyer, our former special teams guys, there, special teams guys. So he's hitting the ball like just as good as he was 15, 16 years ago.

Speaker 1 so it was cool to watch cool to meet up with him but he doesn't give a damn and uh yeah people are saying because he hasn't punted since november uh he's doing this on his side it's like standard operating procedure is doing drops on his side his legs though come all the way up to here he is built like a punter and that face mask is all just hey i'm punting incredible is that illegal yeah i mean he is yeah he's a dog dude he works out so hard like he's like Very obsessed with working out.

Speaker 2 Still doing it.

Speaker 1 We used to kick in the offseasons together and he'd be flipping tires to warm up. Okay.
He'd be taking it.

Speaker 1 I'd be rolling in there, maybe a little hungover, a tad high, maybe, you know, depending upon what time it was and what we did the night before. I'm walking out on the field.

Speaker 1 All right, let's see how this ball is turning over today. You know, he's flipping tires, taking pre-workout over on the side, high knees, running sprints, jumping, doing the entire thing.

Speaker 1 And then it's like, oh shit, he's trying to bury me right now. Like this guy, this guy is trying to bury me right now.
So like even when he was doing those things, he made me better.

Speaker 1 So it's like, I love Thomas Morstead. It was great to see him.
He might not punt ever again, but the way that offense is looking to be 100% clear.

Speaker 1 And yeah, last night was a special night in the Lot House, but

Speaker 1 we're one and five now Monday Night Football Games at Over. Exactly, man.

Speaker 3 Did anybody watch the other cast? Dan Or?

Speaker 1 The nerdcast? Yeah, I did.

Speaker 2 I couldn't understand a word they were saying because they all just started yelling at each other. But

Speaker 2 Keekly is incredible. He does know what the hell he's talking about.
Every single play, it feels like. And you mentioned how AJ watches the game as a linebacker, and you asked him about it yesterday.

Speaker 1 Like, Keekly,

Speaker 2 sure, he watches it as a linebacker, but I do believe he has the ability, rather, to actually be playing middle linebacker while calling the football game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is the one thing from yesterday he called the pick six, which, you know, is what it is.

Speaker 1 He said quick pass to the tight end, I believe, right here. Yeah, because there was an Orlando call.
Rivers Carl called Orlando, Orlando, Orlando.

Speaker 2 And Keekly Bates was like, yeah, he's about to throw a hook. This should be a pick six.
I mean, it's incredible what Kikali was doing, but this is, it was a cool little alternate cat's for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Sean Lee's company, alternative Connor Lee's brother. Sean Lee's brother, Adrenaline, is running the stats and the AI and the model behind it.
And then you got Luke Keekly, also linebacker.

Speaker 1 So, and then you got Dano in there. Feels like they're trying to weaponize and utilize every technology that we have to inform people on what ball is.
Here's Luke Keekly in the Oculus, by the way.

Speaker 1 And yes, exactly what you think is happening here with Luke Keekly is happening. They're going to do this, it's going to do this.
As soon as I see this, I know this.

Speaker 1 It's like, I'm happy Luke's getting an opportunity to display this because this type of football brain type stuff is not normal and it's awesome to watch.

Speaker 1 Insert clip NFL films just put out from Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers get a huge win over the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers and Pittsburgh Steelers can have a home playoff game and potentially, hey,

Speaker 1 here we go.

Speaker 1 Steelers,

Speaker 1 here we go.

Speaker 1 Pittsburgh could go to the Super Bowl. Here we go.
That's what they're thinking, as they should. Huge win over the Detroit Lions.
And now we're getting footage of Aaron Rodgers basically being

Speaker 1 the quarterback of, you know, not only the past, but certainly of today for the Pittsburgh Steelers in complete control of the situation.

Speaker 1 And everybody remembers Gainwell's touchdown from the game where he makes that insane catch down the right sideline. Ball hits his forearm, bounces up.
He catches it. Nobody touches him.

Speaker 1 So that was obviously a great play call by Artie Smith, right? Well, watch how this thing actually comes together. This side, this side, on the ground flat to the right.

Speaker 1 Wait.

Speaker 1 Motion all the way out. We're going to go.
All the way out.

Speaker 1 Rogers off his back foot, throws it down the way. And look at Gainwell.

Speaker 3 And he scored. Thinks he has the touchdown.

Speaker 1 He catches it. He catches.
He caught it.

Speaker 1 Excellent.

Speaker 1 He caught it.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't think he's touched. I think this might be a touchdown, Jim.

Speaker 3 I mean, Gainwell thinks he has it.

Speaker 3 This could be a touchdown. Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 I told you, this running back is like a wide receiver. So, whenever you think about this type of access, obviously shot the NFL films and on Inside the NFL, now on X as a clip show.

Speaker 1 Good move.

Speaker 1 And this type of access is unbelievable. What did Aaron see? Why did that happen? Is it normal?

Speaker 1 Guys are just playing backyard football in the middle of the biggest moments, in the middle of the biggest games at the quarterback position?

Speaker 3 Yeah, you talk about biggest moments. This is right, this was the two-minute right before the half.
So 11 seconds, I believe, is left in the clock.

Speaker 3 And right now, as soon as he comes out of the huddle, if he pauses here, he sees DJ Reed over on the number three wide receiver. So he knows it's man-to-man coverage.

Speaker 3 I believe that's Muth up top to his right. He sees the linebacker on him as as well.
So he knows right now Kenneth Gangwell has a one-on-one matchup with Anzalone down the field.

Speaker 3 So he just tells him, hey, go out here and run a go. Now, right now, it looks like split safety on defense.
Post-snap, once the ball is snap, it'll go to single hot.

Speaker 3 So a post-safety in the middle of the field. So knows once again, I have a one-on-one on the outside, and he just gets back there and rips it.
Now, you ask, is it normal?

Speaker 3 I would say no, but when you have a quarterback that's been in the game for as long as he's been I'd be interested to know where Artie Smith was actually when Aaron took his first snap as a starter three years in the league.

Speaker 3 But like when you have that type of relationship, or even like Phillip Rivers or Stafford, these guys that's been around the NFL so long, they have this type of freedom, I would assume, to make these adjustments and calls.

Speaker 3 And we all know the play caller to quarterback, that communication goes out at 15 seconds on the clock. So everything after that is on the quarterback.

Speaker 3 So I just love seeing this, love hearing this mic'd up, seeing this actual access. And then even the part of, hey, that's a touchdown.
Like, he got up. He didn't get touched.

Speaker 3 So all of that Tomlins reaction when he was like,

Speaker 3 okay, great. He caught it.
It was just all awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think the special part about it all is the fact that it works. But also, Gainwell, he tells him to go to the flat first.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And then without correcting or saying anything, he goes, go motion all the way out and run a go. Gainwell says, you got to break it.
Yeah, there it is. I'll buy in.

Speaker 1 Dan Orlovsky broke down another play earlier from this game, Jalen Warren's long pitch touchdown. Basically, there's a safety.

Speaker 1 If you listen to Dan Rolovsky's breakdown of it, there's a safety that's certainly supposed to spill or fill in a gap over here be a part of it Aaron Rodgers sees that guy high knows that he's potentially supposed to take the pitch away and he decides to tell DK Metcalf hey actually run a bubble dude to get this safety the hell out of here right before the snap he looks over at DK gives him a hand signal to run a bubble takes the safety out of the play then Jalen Warren has it wide open it's like this dude yeah is it's this guy versus the defense right now is what it feels like and if you have aaron Rodgers battling against a defense, I think the way he would view it, and he should for all these years, is like by the second half or fourth quarter, like I'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 Like, I think that's why games are close with Aaron Rodgers. And then you hear Coach Mike McCarthy talk about like, a lot of these games come down in two minutes.

Speaker 1 There's nobody I really like against two minutes more than Aaron Rodgers. I mean, he knows what the defense is doing.

Speaker 1 So I think just like anything or anybody that's like super smart, he's calibrating all game. And then he is like, every play is the first 15 for him to see what you're doing.

Speaker 1 And then once he's got you, it feels like they at least have given him the freedom. Whatever you think works, let's go ahead and do that.

Speaker 1 And maybe this is the meetings that he was talking about about earlier in the year maybe like in these meetings he's trying to tell them like hey a second and a half before the ball is snapped i might see something and i tell you this yeah i need you to know that and do that okay i don't care how much success you've had i need you to do what we need to be on the same page and the same page is when i say something I need you to do it.

Speaker 1 And it feels like the Steelers have bought in completely.

Speaker 3 That's the biggest difference of like being a pro because on the college level, you don't have a ton of this. I'm sure you have some of it.

Speaker 3 But when you get to the NFL and you get into these meetings and you're preparing preparing for games, like it's a back and forth conversation between the players and the coaches to be comfortable on the same page.

Speaker 3 It happens with quarterbacks, of course, but it happens with linebackers, safety scoring.

Speaker 3 I'm sure Luke Keekly had this same type of freedom on defense, you know, with Thomas Davis or other players that he's playing. Hey, I know this was called, but I see this, I see his formation.

Speaker 3 I may be looking at a split or looking at somebody's eyes that, hey, actually, you go. I'm going to drop and you make those late adjustments.

Speaker 1 But this is the biggest part and the biggest difference when people talk about being a pro is what's happening after that play is given from from the coach to the players and then they have the freedom to kind of massage it to make it be perfect but being a pro is all the work that takes yeah to that point because you got to have the trust yeah not a film yeah to to be able to call that shit yeah you got to know your shit go ahead and that's and that could be a big reason why the offense has kind of taken off in the last few weeks since stielin has been in the starting lineup since mvs has been in the starting lineup those are the those are the veteran guys that are used to running or

Speaker 1 thielen's not used to playing with aaron but he's a veteran wide receiver he knows what he's supposed to do But since they've been in the lineup, it feels like Aaron's been a lot more comfortable on where his receivers are going to be.

Speaker 1 And allegedly, they've had their best weeks of practice over the last couple of weeks. That might just be literally.

Speaker 3 They're going to need the demon.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're going to need the demon, but they're also going to need Aaron to beat these defenses. Like, there's really good defenses on the horizon in this playoffs.

Speaker 1 I think that is a matter of a fact, as opposed to like one or two good defenses. It's like everybody that's going to be in the playoffs seemingly has one.

Speaker 2 Well, and showing that on tape like this week with the bubble, like, hey, go ahead, DK, run the bubble, and then, you know, we're going going to toss it i mean next week he's probably going to throw it you know it's one of those things where now the defense has to prepare for the toss and the bubble screen and then let alone all the gain wall you know stuff hey when he motions out he's probably going to go deep well what happens if this time he it's a it's a stop and go or it's a or it's a curl or it's a slant it's like the setting up also within the game is sweet but from week to weeks the setups are insane yeah luke keekly talked about that when he was on the show last week he was like whenever they're doing something i'm thinking why are they showing me that this early What are they trying to do with it later?

Speaker 1 Luke Keekly, though, he's hosting a show right now doing it. This is not like a normal thing that happens.

Speaker 1 It takes a lot of work and a very special talent in between the years to be able to get to this position. And I think we saw that out of Phil Rivers last night.
Now,

Speaker 1 a man who's about to compete in the first ever Merry Christmas. What? The what? The Merry Christmas.
What is that? Yeah, it's a special thing. We'll get into that in a second.

Speaker 1 But one of the competitors, one of the contestants is you're going to try to win $10,000 for the charity they're choosing.

Speaker 1 A set of trivia questions that are all around ball, but certainly a good time. As soon as he walked into the building this morning, he said, I knew Phil Rivers calls by halftime.
So

Speaker 1 he doesn't consider himself like a savant. He was basically just like,

Speaker 1 I guess he would be considered that, actually. I don't think he would consider that.
He said, but boy, it was easy to pick up what he was doing. I mean, that was pretty genre-based.

Speaker 1 And by halftime, I knew what he was doing. And so Lou Kinkley on the stat cast being like, Orlando, yep, yep, this is this.
Phil, I think we're going to have to change it.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to have to change things. But honestly, there's only certain ways that you can go about doing something, you know, like left and right can only be called a different way.

Speaker 1 Is it cities in different parts of the country? Is it different musicians from different places?

Speaker 1 Like once you catch the genre of the code words, it does become something that's like, okay, pretty usable. Five years ago, there's a chance, you know,

Speaker 1 they might figure out some of these code words. Sure.
Okay. We just need to go back.
I've been a part of a brainstorm for new hand signals and code words before. It's awesome in there.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is a writer's room. They are.
Oh, oh, I could see how we could sell that as something.

Speaker 1 You know, like dig classic, start with like you're digging,

Speaker 1 but then, okay, what can we move off of this? What do you do afterwards? Well, you do this as well.

Speaker 1 And then actually, you can kind of take that thing with your left hand and then kind of sit on that thing, right? Yeah, or yeah, how do we sell this to everybody?

Speaker 1 Well, you can't do that, actually. Yeah, anymore.
You got to

Speaker 1 do a 15-yard penalty. Yeah, wipe your nose.

Speaker 4 You can't pick boogs or wipe your nose.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we would like the kids that are watching now. He's not doing Kecane right now.
Okay, and that's not gang-affiliated. No.

Speaker 3 That's the gang thing, too?

Speaker 1 Slime, dude, slime. Slide and slime.
Yeah, well, the Booger gang up there in Detroit, they've been trying to flick those things all over the books.

Speaker 1 But you can't wipe your nose in any manner. Remember, that was a part of the bylaws of the unsportsmanlike conduct in the NFL state because it is considered.
considered it was caused

Speaker 1 f yep yep that's down there important one more you know

Speaker 1 the more you know speaking who knows the most

Speaker 1 ladies and gentlemen it's time for merry christmas now because of the scheduling and because of the holiday and what day of the week christmas falls on you know some of our weekly visitors uh shifted days we just so happen to have two people that we absolutely love in the thunderdome at the same time what's the best way to make content with two people boom have them battle.

Speaker 1 Boom. And what? Trivia.
Ladies and gentlemen, we introduce Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 There will be seven questions, okay, for our two contestants. There will be a $10,000 donation to a charity of the winner's choice.
There will be one double

Speaker 1 opportunity per contestant. They'll get one point per answer, but these points...
you know, easy come, easy go. Sure.
They will be handwritten, fill-in-the-blake type answers.

Speaker 1 There will be multiple lifelines that they could use. They can phone a friend of the program.
Okay, they will FaceTime a friend of the program. We do not know who that will be until the moment comes.

Speaker 1 It'll be a surprise friend of the program. They can ask the show.
That's the rest of the boys are up here. They can take a mulligan, which is a putt on the green if they get a question wrong.

Speaker 1 And they can let's chat that, which is get an answer, an overwhelming answer from the YouTube chat. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the YouTube chat obviously has a chance to maybe win somebody $10,000 to a charity of their choosing or lead them astray. These will be sports questions, football questions, majority of them.

Speaker 1 And the two contestants are obviously a fantastic duo. Introducing first, ladies and gentlemen, this man was a football coach for 47 years.
He's a Super Bowl champion, baby.

Speaker 1 And he's a man who has joined us every single week this season on Tuesdays, bringing the heat, bringing the stories, bringing stories that you need to know, not just the stories that he wants to tell.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, touch Bruce Harry.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 BA has brought a friend with him. I believe that is

Speaker 1 a little bit of a whiskey. He'll be the contestant on the Grincher side.

Speaker 1 And joining us, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who obviously we love. A man who is as round as he is jolly.

Speaker 1 He's a man who signifies the holiday season as a whole because not only did he just get done celebrating Hanca, he's also about to celebrate the hell out of Christmas.

Speaker 1 Well, welcome to Christmas, ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion A.K. Shipley.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Whoa. Is that Boo? Tony?

Speaker 1 I don't know if we got any heat around here, but.

Speaker 1 I do know that we have an incredible opportunity to showcase two fine gentlemen. How you doing? Ships? Fantastic.
Fist bump, fist bump. Thank you.
Coach, how you doing?

Speaker 1 Good to see you, Coach. You look amazing.
Happy holidays. Merry Christmas.

Speaker 5 Happy holidays to everybody out there, baby.

Speaker 1 Merry Christmas. How do you feel about trivia? Are you a good trivia guy, especially football trivia or no?

Speaker 5 Not too bad. Not too bad, especially the old stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, 47 years in this game, you think you would get quite an advantage because maybe you know literally everybody that is going to have a question asked about them. But do you do trivia?

Speaker 1 Is this something you have ever done before?

Speaker 5 I'll sit in a bar every now and then, watch people do it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There it is. Get banked up, maybe have some people ask you some questions about the sports ones.
Now, you, much younger, obviously, than your opponent. How do you feel in your trivia abilities?

Speaker 1 I feel good. I feel really good.
My dad and I used to do this when I was a kid, and I used to.

Speaker 1 go back and forth. It was mostly Pittsburgh Steelers trivia, but I feel pretty good about this.
I don't know how many Pittsburgh Steelers questions are in this particular.

Speaker 1 We need to get them a dry erase board and a marker for each of them. Let me go ahead and do that right now for the boys.
Certainly should have had those as you came out.

Speaker 1 That's 100% on the Merry Quizmus production staff, myself included. Would you like the one with the...

Speaker 1 Yep, go ahead and grab it. Yep.
There we go. Perfect.
Here we go.

Speaker 1 Oh, a good board. All right, you guys got a good board.
That is Connor's board. That is Ty's board.
I don't know if that'll bring you any luck or not. So $10,000 charity of your choosing.

Speaker 1 Each question will be worth a point. And I'm a lot of takeaway points if I don't like the way you guys do what you do.
Don't let the other person see your answers. Don't be dip shits.

Speaker 1 Let's get to this thing. First question here for Merry Christmas.
By regular season winning percentage, which active NFL franchise owns the worst record of all

Speaker 1 time?

Speaker 1 Boys, the clock will start now. Obviously, don't be looking at each other.
Worst team in the NFL by winning percentage in the regular season. Do you guys think you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah. I have an idea.
Oh, okay. Did you guys read the answers before the show? No.
No.

Speaker 1 I knew before. No.
Are both answers in? I see BA has completed his. T.A.'s already left, right? AQ has no idea.

Speaker 1 Shaking in his boots. Okay, show your answers, boys.
Same answers.

Speaker 1 These two actually played. You can show your answer.
You can show your answer. These two actually played for this team and coached for this team.
Wow. That is actually

Speaker 1 the wrong answer.

Speaker 1 It's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 The unstoppable. Not good.

Speaker 5 I thought the Cardinals being the oldest franchises in the league, they might have them by a few years.

Speaker 1 Okay, and you're Super Bowl champion for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I guess they've been ass for a long time, AQ.
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 I went with the Cardinals because I saw the stat the other week where, you know, know, Carson Palmer's the winningest all-time quarterback, and he was only there for a couple years.

Speaker 1 So I just figured a lot of losses. Yeah, well, 400% down there in Tampa Bay.
Jeez, Louise, get back to it.

Speaker 1 You really did the Lord's work winning a Super Bowl down there. Congratulations to you, Coach B.A.
And only two years. Oh, one Tom Brady and one AQ Shipley.
That's all it takes. That's right.

Speaker 1 Question two of Quizmus here, boys. Go ahead and erase your answers.
The Bills are one of two teams that reach the Super Bowl four times times without winning any. Which is the other?

Speaker 1 This feels like this one's in B.A.'s bag, Conman.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this one also, based on AQ's look after reading that question, don't feel too good about Shipley so far.

Speaker 1 AQ Shipley told us him and his dad used to do trivia about Pittsburgh Steelers and sports back in the day. Feels like these first two questions from Hembo have certainly stumped the stump-built man.

Speaker 1 D.Bucks, what are your thoughts on AQ seemingly not having a clue?

Speaker 3 AQ should notice it. This is the easy one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd say.

Speaker 3 Easy.

Speaker 1 Let me see what you have here. Okay, let me see what you have.
Come on, Q. No answer yet, still.

Speaker 2 How much time?

Speaker 1 I would like to phone a friend. Oh!

Speaker 1 Of the program. Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, we have our first lifeline. IQ Shipley is utilizing his phoning the friend of the program.

Speaker 1 We are dialing right now. Hopefully, person will answer.
Now,

Speaker 1 this is the friend of the program. What are you expecting from this person that maybe you don't have right now? An answer.
I'm hoping this guy has an answer because I don't have any. You have no clue?

Speaker 1 Do you have it go down to a few? Like when this person pops up, will you say, hey, I think it's this, this, and this? Are you completely clueless right now? No, I got it down to three. Three.
Three.

Speaker 1 Jeez. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, the front of the program who has been phoned, who might have an answer, but maybe not.
Ladies and gentlemen,

Speaker 1 Dan Orlovsky.

Speaker 1 Danny Orlovsky family, Merry Christmas, Orlovsky's. Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas. Hey, hey, how are we? We're driving with kids.
Okay, Dano.

Speaker 1 Keep pull over. Keep pull over.
Keep pulling.

Speaker 1 I will pull over. Sure.
Thank you. You got the whole family.
You got a starting seven in here. What are we doing? You're supposed to be having a merry time, not a scary time.

Speaker 1 It's not scary Christmas, Dano. Look at that, guys.

Speaker 1 Put your seatbelts going, baby.

Speaker 1 They're on side. Okay, they're not driving.
All right.

Speaker 1 All right, you're good, Daniel. Hey, great work on the nerdcast last night.
We watched posts. We appreciate what you did there.
AQ Shipley is phoning you because, boy, he has no idea.

Speaker 1 It's the second question, Dan Orlovsky. Okay, here.

Speaker 1 We'll rally. Okay, AQ, any words of encouragement to Dano before he sees the question here? Yeah, Dan, I need you here.
I need you. I got nothing.

Speaker 1 I think I maybe have it, but I'm really leaning on you right now. And B.A.
got his answer in quick. I mean, B.A.
gave his answer within the first 10 seconds of the question being asked.

Speaker 1 Here's the question, question, Dano, as we put it back up. The Bills are one of two teams that reached the Super Bowl four times without winning any.
Which is the other team to do as such?

Speaker 1 Would you like to hear AQ, who thinks he's whittled it down to his final three, or would you like to go about it alone, Dan?

Speaker 1 No, I'm a team guy, so give me your three. I think I have the team, but give me your three.

Speaker 1 So I got it down to one. This is what I think.
I think it's the Vikings.

Speaker 1 I think it's the Vikings as well. Okay, is this final answer, Dano? The The Minnesota Vikings?

Speaker 1 It's the Minnesota Vikings. Why do you think that?

Speaker 1 Because I just remember they had like really good teams. Bud Grant,

Speaker 1 I'm not old enough to remember it, but I know they haven't won one.

Speaker 1 And I think they had a bunch of really good teams in the past. Okay, so AQ, you agree with them? That's my guess.
Ladies and gentlemen, the answer to this question

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 the Minnesota Vikings. Wow.

Speaker 1 Congratulations to both of you for getting the answer right. Dano, thank you for coming through for AQ.
He has a final word for you here. Thank you, Dan.
I needed that. We talked before the show.

Speaker 1 You came through for me. I really appreciate that.
That's what teammates do. That's what teammates do.
Hey, that's a good teammate, Dano.

Speaker 1 Remember, the only reason why AQ is doing TV is because you tried to break down offensive line stuff a few years back, and he got enraged by it. Now you guys are working together for charity.
Yep.

Speaker 1 It seems like a thank you from both ends. Hey, sometimes there's disagreements on the football field.
You eventually come together.

Speaker 1 We worked through it, and now it's on, we're the smartest people on TV. No big deal.
All right. Okay, thanks, Dan.

Speaker 1 Christmas miracle. Yeah, it was a Christmas miracle.
Thank you, Dan. Merry Christmas, Orlovsky.
Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, Orlovsky's.
All right, as far as seatbelts on.

Speaker 1 Jeez, why does he always do that?

Speaker 3 You said it talked before the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what's it called? Half half point. Tell your half point away.

Speaker 1 Minus half point. Minus half point.
No, we were talking about other stuff. We weren't talking about this.
We were talking about offensive line play.

Speaker 1 You were on 82.

Speaker 1 i don't understand what's happening you can't just say points away

Speaker 1 that's bullshit do you know who you're calling in the front of the program do you know i have a i have a clue

Speaker 1 i picked back half point of him you was half away half point away from him as well he's a half point to a half point lose him oh yeah but we don't like this you guys are cooking did he talk to you

Speaker 1 did he talk to him like there should be some speed to the no it was you did have speed let's talk We'll talk about different things.

Speaker 1 You guys are supposed to be surprised by the friends of this program. Now we got pregame calls.
I don't love that.

Speaker 1 That's you can't make

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 Let's get it.

Speaker 1 You're this close to lose in another half. It's a half point to half point.
Watch it. Third question here for Quizmus.
Nobody has rushed for 2,000 yards in a season twice.

Speaker 1 Who is the only player with two 1,900-yard seasons?

Speaker 1 You guys will have a little bit of time here to try to figure out the answer. Darius Butler, do you know or have an inkling on who this could be? Do you think it's old school or new school guy?

Speaker 3 Old school.

Speaker 1 Okay, Tone, your thoughts? I think old school as well. I have a guess, but not 100% sure.
Toxic Table?

Speaker 4 I'm going to say more of a new school dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 And both went pretty quickly, so it could go shit.

Speaker 1 So I'm thinking new school dude as well. Okay,

Speaker 1 ladies and gentlemen, first time we've had... Different answers.

Speaker 1 Here we go. Both men obviously were able to get an answer, which is good news.
Proud of you guys. Proud of you guys coming to a conclusion, making a decision, you know, when the eyes are upon you.

Speaker 1 That's a big part of big boy stuff and Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 Why don't you both go ahead and

Speaker 1 turn around your answers? Bruce Arion says, OJ, the Juice Simpson. Okay.

Speaker 1 And M. Shipley says, Derrick Henry.

Speaker 1 So we got an old school. And sure.

Speaker 1 And new school.

Speaker 1 What's the right answer? It is Derrick Henry.

Speaker 1 How'd you know AQ? Well, I just remember, I think it was last year he ran for over it, and I remember he had a big season down in Tennessee. You know, sometimes I pay attention to the run game.

Speaker 1 This is what I do. Oh, yeah, it feels like this one's kind of skewed towards AQ.
You won with the juice, obviously, old school on the field. Guy on

Speaker 1 tackle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a guy.

Speaker 1 He was a real people forget great at football.

Speaker 5 Unbelievable. I mean, I did have the 2,000-yard seasons, I do believe, but my next one was going to be Barry.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 5 OJ or Barry?

Speaker 1 I went with OJ. Yeah, you just didn't want to give a new school guy the answer? No, no way.
Okay, there is a mulligan for another shot.

Speaker 1 It would have to be beforehand.

Speaker 1 The actors already gave the answer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so we'll figure that one out.

Speaker 1 You guys will have to say you would like to take a mulligan if it's wrong before we give the right answer

Speaker 1 going forward. New rules, new game.
Congratulations.

Speaker 1 You're in the lead. One and a half, two and a half.
Let's go to the next question, shall we, here on Merry Christmas. $10,000 to a charity of their choosing.

Speaker 1 Which stadium has hosted the most Super Bowls? And if you get this wrong, would you like a mulligan? You can only do that one time. You got to do that before we give you the right answer.

Speaker 1 So that's like 100% on you guys. Seems like they're in deep thought.
Do you have a lien up there, Ty Schmidt?

Speaker 4 I do have a lien.

Speaker 1 And what is that coming from? Just watching Super Bowls and reminding yourselves of what place is hosting it?

Speaker 4 Yeah, kind of. You know, we've done this for a couple of years now.
And, and, you know, the more things change, the more they tend to stay the same.

Speaker 4 We do kind of see the same cities hosting this year after year.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like that. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
That's kind of life, isn't it, AQ, as we evolve.

Speaker 1 AQ's is wrong.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying that. Or is it? I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that. I'd like a mulligan if this is wrong.

Speaker 3 Okay, probably a good move.

Speaker 1 Okay, you are wrong. Go ahead with the mulligan.
Okay, dude. I'll show you your answer.
So, ladies and gentlemen, AQ gets a mulligan. His answer was Miami, the hard rock.
That's a good guess.

Speaker 1 Stadium's been around for like three years.

Speaker 1 The right answer.

Speaker 1 All you have to do here, AQ, is you can do city. City would be the right answer.
Oh, okay. Miami also wrong.
Yeah, Miami's not the right answer. So if it wasn't just a stadium change.

Speaker 3 Shout out to Joe Robbie's stadium.

Speaker 1 You will make one putt for another chance at an answer.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's true. Yeah, see, that's not how this goes.
I like it. No, no, no, no.
You got to back that up. Minus one and a half points.
No, you're not going to. Minus one and a half points.

Speaker 1 No, you're going to back it up. Back it up.

Speaker 1 There's a standard putt in this fucking office. It's every single time it's from the same spot.
Delete this man's score.

Speaker 3 I like that move. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't want to delete your points because I think that was good, and I appreciate that you care that you're trying to get the right answer. A.Q.

Speaker 1 Shibley will have to bury a seven-foot putt here. I just saw stats.
I believe that's like 40% make rate at a PGA tour or something like that.

Speaker 1 If he's able to bury this putt with the LAB putter, he will get a chance to give another answer. His first answer to which stadium has hosted the most Super Bowls, Miami, was incorrect.

Speaker 1 We do not know what B.A.'s answer is yet. He has not decided for the mulligan option.
This is AQ's first and only attempt for a mulligan.

Speaker 1 Oh, he did.

Speaker 1 And.

Speaker 1 What a putt by AQ Shipley. I'll tell you what, you were dancing with maybe destruction there doing the little two-foot thing.

Speaker 1 Connor was calling for you to get your entire points wiped out you've done a lot of work I don't necessarily love that you can now give a second answer that would be the stadium or city that has hosted the most Super Bowls in the Super Bowls history so it's not Miami we know that no

Speaker 1 that is not what BA's answer is okay

Speaker 1 yeah it is a good one

Speaker 1 What's that, buddy? Butter's gone.

Speaker 1 He said, it's kind of bullshit. His butter's gone.
So where is your butter? Your butter's up there, isn't it? I don't see it. I think that's the one AQ just used.

Speaker 1 I know, it's back there. It's back there.
It's back there. It's high.
I see it. I see it.

Speaker 1 Bottom of a pond.

Speaker 3 A whiskey. Okay.
At whiskey.

Speaker 1 Okay. This is like the NFL officials.
We'll get in that in the next hour for sure. We're in Mary Christmas right now.
Okay, two different answers. Okay,

Speaker 1 AQ on his second answer after hitting him all again. Boys, what are your answers? AQ has Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 BA has New Orleans. The right answers is

Speaker 1 New Orleans Super Dole.

Speaker 1 Good point for Coach BA.

Speaker 1 You just assumed that throughout the history of LA, the city of Stars would have hosted it? Yeah, I was just thinking warm weather cities and obviously two host teams, right? Had have been lost.

Speaker 1 You will not lose a point for your answer, but I do appreciate the fact that you had a pretty good answer. Coach, how'd you know it was New Orleans?

Speaker 5 I've been there too many times when the lights went out.

Speaker 1 Oh, Beyonce.

Speaker 1 No, Super Dow, Super Bowl, Baltimore, San Francisco, when the lights went out.

Speaker 1 That wasn't. Yeah, Beyonce.
She shut the whole place down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco, they did a slow safety at the end of that game, I think.

Speaker 5 It was an awesome game, and

Speaker 5 San Francisco had a great chance with a little fade in the end zone. They got tipped and intercepted.

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco from, I remember from that Super Bowl, was talking on the sideline. He was mic'd up.
Shout out to NFL Films.

Speaker 1 And he said something along the lines during the long after the slow safety return. He said, if this guy's running down this sideline, I'm going to tackle him.
Like, what are they going to do?

Speaker 1 Because they would win the Super Bowl if not. He's like, I'm going to, if we were to just tackle him right here, what would be the penalty? I like that.
I do wonder.

Speaker 1 I do wonder what would have happened there. But I like that Joe Flacco was willing to go for it.
The current score, one and a half points. Wow.
I like it. Two one and a half points.

Speaker 1 There's only one double Don option. You would have to announce it before the next question.
And we are going to question four of seven. You would like to double down.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, we got a double down.

Speaker 1 A double down. Yes, he is.
Yes, he is. Coach BA has decided to utilize the double down option first here.
AQ, you're boring. You made your mulligan putts, still got it wrong.

Speaker 1 A double down is the most electrifying part of Christmas. All you have to do here is get this question right.
You don't have to hide your answer because AQ will not be asking.

Speaker 1 And your one and a half points will become three points. Wow.
Maybe three and a half just because we had a half point because we liked that you were were the first to do the double down.

Speaker 1 Why now and why not later on the double dawn?

Speaker 5 You go for the throat early.

Speaker 1 I liked out that. Oh, jeez.
No risky, no point.

Speaker 1 Oh, my gosh. Watch your throat, cuz.
The double don

Speaker 1 is this, B.A.

Speaker 1 Which Penn State legend is the all-time leading rusher in Super Bowl history? Penn State running back is what you would assume the answer is.

Speaker 1 AQ writing down an answer, even though he's not a part of of this question, he went to Penn State. Do you at the toxic table have an idea? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd like to steal.

Speaker 1 Shut up. Is that a rule? Take that point away.
Is that a rule? Take that point away. That is a rule.
Take Avaport. You're dancing.
You are dancing. He's a thief.
He's just quizzing.

Speaker 1 You can't steal a double down.

Speaker 1 Jeez, Rynch should be on this side. B.A.,

Speaker 1 do you want to put the last name on there, too? Yeah, yeah, I think you should. I think you should.

Speaker 1 I know, I know, I know, but maybe, you know, more humans under the age.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, this guy. B.A.'s fucking doubt.
This guy has a damn statue at the airport. Yes, he does.
It is

Speaker 1 Frank O'Hair.

Speaker 1 354 yards. He's stuck on your throat with a double down.

Speaker 1 AQ's dead. B.A.
now has three and a half. I don't like that the back room automatically gave you the extra half point.

Speaker 1 But I like that they said we should give you the extra half point because you're the first to use a double down. Wow.
Three and a half to one and a half. That was a Nick Moraldo decision.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Waitari's here. They dunked in his face.
Yeah, and he said step on his throat. I think we all kind of like that.
He tried to steal it. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 See, he went alumni section on an alumni of the school question was about. B.A., way to go DD there on AQ to bro.
How's it feeling fresh off the first ever DD in Christmas?

Speaker 5 That guy made those four putts that day.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Good comparison. Well, said comparison.
Hasn't even used a special yet.

Speaker 2 This guy's got two in the chamber already.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a little bit worried. And now you're losing a lot.
Okay, let's go to the next question, Shall we? Question four of Quizmus for the boys.

Speaker 1 Who was the first quarterback in NFL history to throw 40 touchdowns in a season three times? Now, he's quarterback guru here, Bruce Arians. He's the guy who had a lot of quarterbacks, touch his

Speaker 1 hind end to get snap, obviously. Lover of the game.
D. Buch, do you have a couple, obviously, that you're thinking about?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I got a couple for sure, but this is tough. The first, this is tough.

Speaker 1 We have the same answer. Okay.

Speaker 1 We have the same answer from both sides. AQ Shipley says Dan Marino.
Bruce Arion says Dan Marino. Dan Marino, Pittsburgh legend.
Who's becoming one right in front of our eyes?

Speaker 1 Oh, ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers is the answer. Wow.
2011, 2016, 2020. You're both wrong.
Let's go to question five.

Speaker 1 What's that? Can I double down? Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ has doubled down.

Speaker 1 Now, Ty screamed last time that he's going to double down, but he understands that we're up against it for this hard out at the end.

Speaker 1 So the double down, you're looking to maybe tie this thing up here as we go to question five. I am.
I think I'm going to use every lifeline on this exact one. I'm going to go here.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go ask the show. I'm going to chat.
I'm going to chat that. I'm going to do it all.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's legal. Okay, let's go to the double down question here for AQ Shipley, who's sitting at one and a half points.

Speaker 1 Who is the only active player named to the Pro Bowl more than 10 times? AQ's on it. I mean, this is the easiest double Don question I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, this is an easier question than the last double Don question, but I believe we tried to play for the guest. Sure.
You know, like old school question. Sure.

Speaker 1 I'd like to ask the show. Potential new.

Speaker 1 Another lifeline out of AQ who's using multiple lifelines on one particular thing, which I appreciate and respect. Who would you like to ask?

Speaker 1 Connor. I'm asking Connor.
Wasting valuable.

Speaker 1 Okay. Connor.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Do I say what I think is?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 He played last night. Yep.
He plays offensive line.

Speaker 1 Yep. That's kind of what I thought.
Trent Williams, it is. Okay.
Is the right answer, Trent Williams?

Speaker 1 Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 Great Cubs. That's the large car.

Speaker 1 You had something else written down.

Speaker 1 He had Trent, and then he went back. He went to Aaron Rodgers.
Now he's back to Trent Williams. He needed it.
We're at three and a half to three.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 B.A. still in the lead.
Let's get to the fifth question, I do believe. Both double dons in the can.
I like that we DD'd across the board.

Speaker 1 The fifth question: which active college football coach has produced the most first-round NFL draft picks? Boys, tick, tick, tick here. Actual cake picks.
Cake question.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which active college football coach has produced the most first-round NFL draft picks? This does feel like a cake answer. Feels like it.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Well. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Julie. Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 1 you can still ask the chat. You still ask the chat.
That's right. Yeah, I'll ask the chat.
Okay, let's chat that. Now, the chat is 20 seconds behind.

Speaker 1 We did not think about being up against the clock like this.

Speaker 3 Let me give you some names. I got the chat pulled up.

Speaker 1 Yep, who's the chat? What's the chat saying?

Speaker 3 They're saying Kirby. They're saying Kiffin.
They're saying

Speaker 3 Kirby, Kiffin,

Speaker 3 Dabbo are the main answers I'm seeing.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm going to go.

Speaker 1 I'm saying a lot of Kirby. Kirby, Kirby.
Yeah, I'm going to go Kirby. Okay, B.A., what's your answer? Kirby Smart.
AQ in the YouTube chat went with Kirby Smart. The right answer is

Speaker 1 Kirby Smart. That was a layup.
That was a right angle.

Speaker 1 How easy was it?

Speaker 5 That was so easy, man.

Speaker 1 That's like riding a bike.

Speaker 1 Gabbo made me think hard right now. He's got to be take a half point away.

Speaker 1 Ryan Davis's first answer. All right, four and a half to four here.
How many minutes do we have left in the show? One, two, two, two. Okay, here we go.
Let's go to the

Speaker 1 sixth and final question of Quizmus. $10,000 to a charity of your choosing is on the line.
Jerry Rice caught the most 50-yard touchdowns in NFL history with 36. Randy Moss caught 28.

Speaker 1 Which ranks third? Who ranks second?

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Most 50-yard touchdowns in NFL history, 36. Randy Moss caught 28.

Speaker 1 Who ranks third?

Speaker 4 AQ's got no idea. No chance.

Speaker 3 Who ranks second?

Speaker 1 Second, sorry, sorry. Who's above Randy Moss? By one, by the way.

Speaker 1 Another Caqua.

Speaker 2 Here we go.

Speaker 1 This is for for all the Marbles. Here we go.
Be fast. This is for all the marbles.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, BA, your answer is?

Speaker 1 I'm going to ask the panelist. Ask the panel.
I like that. He's using one of his lifelines.

Speaker 1 Who would you like to ask? Ty?

Speaker 4 I think it's T.O., personally.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 Final answer? Sure. You're both wrong.
BA wins. $10,000 to BA's Tennessee on Tuesday.
Merry Christmas. We'll see you next hour.

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Speaker 1 That's right, ladies and gentlemen. The voice you just heard, the cadence you just heard, is our first ever Merry Quizmus champion.

Speaker 1 $10,000 will be donated to a charity of his choice, 47 years in the football world as a coach, Super Bowl champion, Quizmus champion, Bruce Arians.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, BA. What's the charity we're going to be sending out to you?

Speaker 5 Arians Family Foundation.

Speaker 1 Okay, and once again, if you can remind folks what Arian's Family Foundation.

Speaker 5 We support CASA Guardian McLeod, the Court of Porter Special Advocates for the Children and the court system. and foster care.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, it's an amazing charity. You've obviously done wonderful things alongside your wife and your entire family.
Congratulations on winning our first ever Quizmus. Very merry Quizmus to you.

Speaker 1 And a very scary Quizmus for 12-year NFL vet Super Bowl champion AQ Shipley. Yeah, nice try.

Speaker 1 You're currently the only person I know completely defeated at Quismus, but I want to let you know I thought you did a good job out there. I appreciate that.
You kept things active.

Speaker 1 You know, there was a lot of bending of the rules that you were attempting to do, which we should expect and appreciate at the same time.

Speaker 1 Well, I've learned from you guys when I come in here at U-Ball and there's different rules every week.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius Jade Baller's here.

Speaker 1 It's been the same rules the whole time. State has been.
This guy just sucks at the game.

Speaker 1 You said it. I mean, anytime you congrats, champ.
Hey.

Speaker 3 He said it, I mean. I mean, you see what the damn trophy is, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, trophy rebux, but right now, you know, got all going on. Toxic tables here at Bus Conner and at Ty Schmidt.
Con man, good to see you, brother. What are your thoughts on Quismus?

Speaker 1 I think it's a hit.

Speaker 2 I'm actually kind of pissed that it's called Merry Quizmus because I don't play next week.

Speaker 1 Okay, we'll certainly come up with a new name.

Speaker 1 We can certainly figure that out. The double Don was a little early, Ty.

Speaker 4 It was, you know, but hey, like B.A. said, when you have the opportunity to step on someone's throat and really end it, you do that.
And that's exactly what B.A. did with the Double Don.

Speaker 4 AQ had no chance to win after that.

Speaker 1 He ends up winning by half a point.

Speaker 1 And AQ is dancing with losing half a point all the time all his little attitude and sass remember he took the mulligan putt for another answer up to about two inches it's like hey don't disrespect quizmus

Speaker 1 okay you disrespect quizmus the quizmus gods come back to get you and they did congrats to coach ba once again

Speaker 1 congrats also to the man we got a chance to catch up with this morning his team has won a college football playoff game at home what's next we chat with a guy out there in eugene oregon earlier today

Speaker 1 ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man who has got a chance to showcase a beautiful part of the country to me and many others because getting a chance to travel out to where he coaches is something that nobody would ever really sign up for.

Speaker 1 But then once you do it, you think to yourself, man, I can't wait to get back here. Here happens to be one of the greatest sports capitals on the entire planet Earth.

Speaker 1 It is not only the track home where all of our fast people go and the home of Nike, obviously, which has transcended the entire globe for what it's able to do to our feet, but it also has a football team that is going to be dominant for seemingly ever they win their first round of the playoff game they end up with their third stringers in the game and afterwards the coach is pissed off by the final score that is what this type of guy is intense loyal loving and a damn good football coach ladies and gentlemen the head coach of the oregon ducks who got the texas tech red raiders in the next round coach dan lannan

Speaker 1 man merry christmas moist how we doing hey merry christmas we got fire back here i don't know if you see it.

Speaker 9 I like the background. It looks good, man.

Speaker 1 Do you know it's put me in the mood? Do you know it's Christmas? Like, because you're kind of in the middle of it.

Speaker 9 I've heard it's coming. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've heard it's coming.

Speaker 9 No, I'm excited about it. I mean, we're not really

Speaker 9 absolutely got to celebrate Christmas. We're kind of locked in over here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think

Speaker 1 the football calendar has kind of changed the way I view holidays.

Speaker 1 You know, Thanksgiving, yeah, certainly a good time when I was a kid growing up with the family, going to eat with the extended family.

Speaker 1 Then you get into football, it's like thanksgiving actually big football day okay christmas well we're hoping it's meaningful football new year's well that's when we would like to be playing so football kind of changes what life is like around this holiday season but let's talk about the holiday season that is right now for your team the college football playoffs first home playoff game in otson in its history i heard the speech that you gave to the boys after your practice game uh a week beforehand where you said hey first ever playoff game in Otson and you guys get to be a part of it.

Speaker 1 And then whenever you take that field, do you realize the gravity of the moment? Are you trying to minimize that shit on game day for the team?

Speaker 1 Or how did you kind of address the boys on the magnitude of the situation and how many great players have been through Oregon?

Speaker 1 But these are the ones that get a college football playoff game at Autson for the first time ever?

Speaker 9 Yeah, it's weird in a way because I think we all recognize how different the situation is and how unique the opportunity is that we have.

Speaker 9 But as a coach, part of you's fighting to make them say, hey, we've done this before.

Speaker 9 We're replicating something we've already done. We're experiencing something we've already experienced.

Speaker 9 So I think you want to recognize in the moment how special it is, but then you want to remind them the reason you got here is because you were consistent and you did what you're supposed to do over and over and over again.

Speaker 9 And that's how we're going to replicate it again and have an opportunity to keep moving.

Speaker 1 Is that what you think is your team's superpower, the ability to be consistent? Or what do you love about this year's Oregon Ducks team the most?

Speaker 9 I think our superpower is our love for our teammates. You know, and I think our superpower is the amount of guys that make an impact on this team.

Speaker 9 You know, I think strength and numbers has really been a superpower for us.

Speaker 9 We've been down players, and then we've had players available. We've had, you know, guys that you didn't expect to make an impact, making huge impacts.

Speaker 9 So I think really our superpower is the strength and numbers and the buy-in from our players.

Speaker 1 I think it's been fun to watch your team all season. We've been lucky to be able to do that.
Obviously, the Oregon Ducks are always going to be in prominent college football convo.

Speaker 1 Last year, you guys become the Big Ten champs your first year in the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 Then you have, what, a month and a half off, and then you get to the Rose Bowl, and you have a buzzsaw of an Ohio State team that obviously comes off the Michigan game, kicks the shit out of Tennessee at home.

Speaker 1 Then they come in the Rose Bowl. It's like they felt like they were hotter, if that makes sense.
This year, you play in the first round as opposed to having the buy. How different is it?

Speaker 1 And what do you like or hate about it all?

Speaker 9 Well, I certainly like not having the break.

Speaker 9 You know, personally, you know, I think the playoffs should be played like every other sport does the playoffs, right? Like high school football does the playoffs, like

Speaker 9 the NFL does the playoffs, like FCS football does the playoffs. You'll play your game a week after the regular season, play the next game the week after.

Speaker 9 I think you should have home games all the way up until the national championship game for the higher seeded team.

Speaker 9 But, you know, it is what it is. So I'm glad we got the opportunity to play.

Speaker 9 I think it's helped maintain that routine a little bit more for our players, which is great.

Speaker 9 But I'd certainly love to see some changes in the future where we can get a little bit more consistent approach.

Speaker 1 I don't want to go back to last year. Okay.
Let's go back to last year.

Speaker 1 That Rose Bowl game afterwards, obviously we were there. I mean, that was from beginning to end.
It felt like they were going. You never got going.

Speaker 1 Is there anything that you looked at your team or preparation for the playoffs this year in the offseason that maybe you thought, if we would have done this differently, or maybe if we do this, or do you think it was just the amount of break that you had versus a hot football team?

Speaker 1 Like, have you coached differently this year for your team to be better in the long haul?

Speaker 1 Like, did anything anything change from last year's Rose Bowl game and playoff game in the offseason on how you address the team this year for the most important games of the season?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I think, you know, certainly a couple of things changed.

Speaker 9 Ultimately, we stopped worrying about the next opponent and we focused a little bit more on ourselves early on. We did the mock game this year to kind of maintain that routine for our players.

Speaker 9 That was something we didn't do last year.

Speaker 9 And again, it's a little bit different because we're playing a little bit earlier, but there's some growth moments within that game.

Speaker 9 And I think there's also the respect and the ability to honor the fact that Ohio State was playing some really good football right there. Let's focus on how we can play really good football.

Speaker 1 I love that. I think you're doing that.
Now, you weren't exactly thrilled, it sounded like, you know, with the way everything kind of ended that game.

Speaker 1 Is that good news for you, coaching the team, leading into this next round, that it wasn't just an absolute slaughtering and it did end up getting a little bit closer than I think a lot of people thought it was going to be?

Speaker 1 Like, how do you view how that game started and then how that game ended and then how you carry that into the next one?

Speaker 9 Well, I think it eliminates some complacency and there's some opportunity for growth for us for sure. If you ask me, how do I wanna play? I wanna play great every time we touch the field.

Speaker 9 So we did that at moments. We didn't do that the entire game.

Speaker 9 So there's gonna be practice here this morning and we'll go attack it.

Speaker 1 Did you put the one, did you have guys not playing for a little bit and then put them back on the field? Did I see that?

Speaker 9 Yeah, we switched some guys there at the end for sure.

Speaker 9 you know i think there's a standard there's a level of play um

Speaker 9 you know but we used uh yeah we used a couple different groups and went through some guys back in there to go go get a stop and they didn't so i think that's an opportunity for us to grow

Speaker 1 that's awesome good for you by the way get a huge win win by multiple scores and also immediately afterwards i don't like what i just saw at all and the whole team feels that you know the whole team knows that going into next week now or next game now you have a very good team that we have gotten a chance to see and follow this this year coming up next.

Speaker 1 D-Butt has a question.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know the players love that. Probably has some tape already untaped.
Shoulder pad probably unclipped. But what's the challenge in this next round?

Speaker 3 The biggest challenge facing this Texas Tech offense?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I think it's the whole team. It's the complete team, but offensively, they're really big and wide out outside.
They've got a great run game. Both the run games do an unbelievable job.

Speaker 9 Our running backs do an unbelievable job. You know, their quarterback is a guy that can deliver it all over the field as well.

Speaker 9 And it sounds like he's really healthy, which is, you know, that's great for them and their team. We can see him at full strength.

Speaker 9 Their tight ends catch the ball. So I think they got weapons across the field.
And the biggest piece is, you know, how they create explosive plays.

Speaker 1 Hey, I've been all the way in Eugene, and it's a beautiful place. You guys are playing, I think, the first.
Go ahead, Con Man.

Speaker 2 Yeah, coach, probably easier to fly to Japan than it is to the Orange Bowl from Oregon.

Speaker 2 What do you guys do on a flight that long? How do you prepare for that?

Speaker 2 And then is there something you do immediately getting off the flight just because you've been on a plane for for eight, nine hours? How does that kind of work with the team?

Speaker 2 And how do you work that into preparation for the Orange Bowl?

Speaker 9 Yeah, it's not quite that long a flight, but it's a long flight. Pack a neck pillow, right?

Speaker 9 And then you make sure that whenever you hit the ground, we're going to get our bodies loose and do a primer, do some moving. But ultimately, we've kind of prepared ourselves for it.

Speaker 9 We've flown to the Rutgers this year. We've flown to Penn State.
We've flown across the country more than any other team, you know, at our level. So we're prepared for those moments.

Speaker 1 Is that a weapon for you? I think it probably is.

Speaker 9 Sounds like it. Kind of like a numb chuck or something, right? It sounds like what's something, you know.

Speaker 1 You could do the Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, you could do Russell Wilson to high knees. And we don't know if you're already doing that in the plane or not, but like everybody was complaining about the long flights.

Speaker 1 And it's like Oregon is probably going to be a long flight from everywhere. Now, once again, I cannot stress this enough.
Once you land there, you're in a postcard. It is gorgeous.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is absolutely beautiful out there. But everything everything is a flight.

Speaker 1 So I guess it's just kind of expected whenever you sign up to be an Oregon duck, like, hey, you might have to travel a little bit to the game. So it's not even a potential outside conversation.

Speaker 1 Is that an accurate, you think, Reed on it?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, who cares? They got a football field there, right?

Speaker 1 You're the greatest.

Speaker 1 You are the greatest. Speaking of football, go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 4 Yeah, coach, I think a lot of people who don't watch you guys are just casual college football fans, they associate Oregon with like the Chip Kelly era where, you know, you spread everybody out.

Speaker 4 And it's been very clear that getting the offensive line where it needs to be and being able to match teams physically in the Big Ten has been a big strength of you guys.

Speaker 4 How do you feel you're going to match up against Texas Tech's defense, specifically that defensive line, which people have talked about ad nauseum all year about how good they are, how physical they are.

Speaker 4 Do you guys feel like you're pretty prepared to match that test?

Speaker 9 Well, I think we got time to prepare. They're certainly a really good front.
You watch them. They don't give explosive plays.
They're really good against the run.

Speaker 9 They do an unbelievable job rushing the passer. They got great edge players.
They got some guys that eat up a lot of room inside and great linebacker play. So it's a complete team.

Speaker 9 It's a complete group. But we do think playing the league that we play in has prepared us for this.

Speaker 9 You know, we have an O-line that's been up for the Joe Moore Award as finalists the last three years. We've got some really good play at running back.

Speaker 9 We've got, again, strength and numbers with what we've been able to get back in our wide receiver position, our tight end position. I think we got a special quarterback under center for us.

Speaker 9 So I love our team. I really do, but I think we're going to go play a really good one here in Texas Step.

Speaker 1 You mentioned somebody special under center there. AQ has the last question for you, coach.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you just talked about how special he is.

Speaker 1 You get to see him every single day. We only get to see him from afar every week.
What does he do that makes him so special?

Speaker 9 Well, it's not the same player today he was yesterday, right? This guy gets better every single day. And Dante has unbelievable poise and composure.
He can make every single throw, right?

Speaker 9 He does some stuff that impresses me consistently.

Speaker 9 You know, he's able to go from one to two to three to four to five in a progression, which is really special. And he makes his teammates play better, you know.

Speaker 9 And I think whenever your quarterback brings confidence to the rest of the team, that's a special thing.

Speaker 1 He might be number one overall pick next year, they're saying, right? Oh, yeah. You know what they're saying? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 They're saying maybe number one overall pick. Maybe Fernando Mendoza.
Maybe. Dante Moore goes back to college, though.
Why not? Why not? Gets more reps.

Speaker 1 Or maybe wins a national championship, sails off in the sunset, and says, hey, Sco docks, and does his thing.

Speaker 1 There's so much opportunity, so much available, and that's because your team has earned it. Congrats, coach.
We can't wait to see what you do down there in Miami against Texas Tech.

Speaker 9 Appreciate it, Pat. You guys have a great morning.

Speaker 1 Hey, you ever been on that motorcycle?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Can you ride? I saw you do it, man.

Speaker 9 You look good doing it. Thank you.

Speaker 9 During COVID, I really wanted to go buy one. You know, when you're like, what am I going to do this morning? I'm going to get up on him.

Speaker 9 I'm going to, you know, turn on the Traeger. I'm going to zoom for like five hours, but what am I going to do after that?

Speaker 9 And I really wanted to get like an Indian motorcycle, like the one off of Benjamin Button.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? What the hell was that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that big fat ass seat down there, especially in Oregon. I assume the riding is incredible.
Have you ever rode before?

Speaker 9 No, no, no, I haven't.

Speaker 1 So you have no idea how to do it either. Are you just going to do it?

Speaker 9 I mean, I've written a bike.

Speaker 1 Isn't it the same?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's the exact same day.

Speaker 1 They got a a football field there. That's all I really care about.
You're the man. Merry Christmas to you and your entire family and your team.
We appreciate you.

Speaker 1 Good luck, ladies and gentlemen, Coach Dan Lannan.

Speaker 1 Baby Dano. Here we have Baby Dan.

Speaker 1 I am a big fan of his, honestly.

Speaker 1 Him having that end of the game against JMU where they start scoring and start running. Like the scoreboard looks vastly different than how that game could have went.

Speaker 1 Dan kind of resting and then him saying the standard is the standard. That's great for a coach going through the playoffs, right? That he has so much to pull from.

Speaker 5 I don't think anything could be better. You win by a good number and you get to kick their ass all week and just rip them all week, you stunk, you know, just to get the guys fired up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little perspective changer.

Speaker 5 If you won by 51 to nothing, they might be a little complacent this week.

Speaker 5 Now, there's no complacency, especially on defense.

Speaker 1 So is coaching literally just trying to get the most out of everybody every single week through?

Speaker 1 Like, if you had to summarize what it was, because you're talking about like these guys, and then you hear Coach Staben talk about, can't let the guys, like it's all about just managing humans.

Speaker 1 That's all you're trying to do right now.

Speaker 5 It really is. And it's not just human, it's individuals and a collective, you know, to make sure we're all on the same page going after the same thing.

Speaker 1 How were you more of a

Speaker 1 do as I say, say as I do, or did you feel like you were a part of the locker room? Like it feels like Vrabel feels like he's part of the locker room, but his vote is worth 10.

Speaker 1 Everybody else's vote is worth one, but he's one of the boys. Like, I feel like that's his.
What was your kind of thing? I would let you three answer that question. Yeah, I think you were in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you talking shit. Do you think that is the best way to go about

Speaker 1 it?

Speaker 5 It's your personality. It has to be authentic.
You know, when I was in Cleveland,

Speaker 5 I was in charge of the two-minute drill on Thursdays, and I had money on the wall with the defensive backs. All right.

Speaker 5 This is BA's money.

Speaker 5 And they didn't know that I controlled the script. So one day, hey, we're playing for 50.

Speaker 1 They were like, 50, I'm in.

Speaker 5 I said, we need a field goal. We're on the 50-yard line, 50 seconds.

Speaker 1 Two timeouts. We kicked the field goal.
We beat him. Put my money on the wall.
Yeah, three timeouts.

Speaker 1 You were notorious for talking shit to the defense. I mean, I never really got a chance to see that.
from in the football coaching world.

Speaker 1 Like Rich Rodriguez, his crew was like very like, hey, this is how this is going to be. We're going to keep it moving.
Coach Jim Caldwell and that coaching staff was kind of an older coaching staff.

Speaker 1 Coach Pagano gets there. He brings in his crew.

Speaker 1 That wasn't really anybody's style in there. Then you get in there.
In the first OTAs, I hear you going, we're going to cook you all day to a guy, Antoine Bethay, I think, by the field.

Speaker 1 I'm like, this is a coach. Okay, I like what we're doing.
Obviously, I'd heard stories about you in Pittsburgh, but it was a special thing.

Speaker 1 It was like a very cool relationship that you build with the boys, both on the offense and defensive side. I think it's a good sense of leadership, I think.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, you love that, especially with Luck as the quarterback, because Luck wasn't much of a shit talker.

Speaker 3 Luck was more of like, you'll make a play against Luck in between series or if the tools are up, he'll be having a conversation. Hey, what did you see there? Like, why did you break on that?

Speaker 3 And then BA would be talking, hey, coming after your ass right now.

Speaker 3 So like, I don't know how that differed with, you know, coaching Tom or coaching Peyton or coaching Ben, but I know the personality that Luck was, it definitely helped.

Speaker 1 Which is great for Raybo and Drake May. Yeah.
It feels like Rainbow and Drake are like the perfect combo. He, Drake May, dog.

Speaker 1 Quiet though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're focusing on next week. Yeah, this whole thing.
Inside, Drake is a killer. Okay.
Drake is an absolute killer. Same with Luck.
Yeah, Andrew Luck, same exact way.

Speaker 5 Drake, killer, though, certified.

Speaker 1 We watch it, we see it. The amount of work he had to put in to perfect his footwork that everybody was complaining about, that type of drive, motivation, and all that.

Speaker 1 And then the way he runs, the way he's able to get out of things, his willingness to do things like Drake is a killer. Vrabel, a little bit more of the alpha, I believe.

Speaker 1 So it's like a perfect yin and yin. And then you think about McDaniels.
He's going to be there for 100 years. It's like we are staring at potentially the next 20 years of excellence up there.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I get used to it.

Speaker 2 By all accounts, this is not going anywhere, and it is just incredible to be in this reality. But Drake May, for the first time, he was mic'd up.

Speaker 2 And maybe it was the first time they actually released it, but he was mic'd up, and he came off the field after the Ramondre Stevenson touchdown to go up after the 89-yard drive to take the lead again after being down by 11 in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 And it was the first time ever you really heard Drake May kind of dog mentality, to quote Tyrioni. That was the first time that it really came out and you heard it on the sideline.

Speaker 2 I was even surprised they put it out just because when you watched it, it was weird in comparison to, you know, the answers that you mentioned that he gives out during the press conferences.

Speaker 2 But very much so, a junkyard dog, Drake May, and then Avrin Vrabel being the kind of loud alpha, like you're saying, is just the best.

Speaker 1 The Steph Curry turnaround there to Hunter Henry was obviously,

Speaker 1 I mean, it's so smooth and casual. And then right down his sideline, which means he's so comfortable and confident.
It has to be with the way he's playing.

Speaker 1 But he's in a system now that feels like he's really taking advantage of everything he's great at.

Speaker 3 Yeah, coach, I want to ask you, though, because obviously Conman says it all the time. Josh ain't going anywhere he's staying.

Speaker 3 The conversation is kind of the same with Vance Joseph in Denver because you're coaching those great players and you have these young quarterbacks. Why not stay in that situation?

Speaker 3 But how hard is it going to be for Josh McDaniel to turn down another head coaching opportunity or Vance Joseph if it presented itself?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I would think Vance would get a shot again. Josh has had two.

Speaker 5 And I think he said, enough's enough. I'm really happy where I got a great guy.
I'm just going to ride this out. And he's such a great offensive coordinator.

Speaker 5 And he hasn't done it as a head coach for whatever reason. And

Speaker 5 I would say, Josh, get a raise and do your thing, baby.

Speaker 1 Just keep getting paid. How often do people do that? How often do people actually do that? Because there's only 32 jobs.
They talk about the pay increase, running your own thing.

Speaker 5 You know, so much of it's your ego. If you just put your ego aside and say, what's best for me and my family, and I think Josh has realized now this is the best thing for him and his family.

Speaker 5 Vance is probably chopping at the bed to say, hey, last time was a mistake. I got this.
And

Speaker 5 I think he'll get a good shot.

Speaker 1 And what, I mean, by all counts, he absolutely should. The hype of his defense has lived up to everything that it was supposed to be coming into the year, and it has been for some time.

Speaker 1 So obviously, there's going to be plenty of coaching opportunities available every single NFL coaching cycle There is that's why like when Ben Johnson was turning down opportunities for a couple years Everybody was like your window can close quick Your window can close quick You got to be able to take that head coaching paycheck verse whatever an assistant coaching paycheck is and obviously that thing's fully guaranteed brother and you get a chance to kind of build the building in your own way So I think it's a very difficult decision from my understanding for coaches to make that decision.

Speaker 1 I think there is a great temptation to become the head person, not just because you think you can run it in a way that you can win into your own personal ego, but also the paycheck is doubled normally, double paycheck.

Speaker 1 Normally, it's like, hey, everything you like is able to go, but you have what, a thousand more obligations and jobs and so many more things you have to balance and your life and work thing becomes non-existent.

Speaker 1 And it's like, once you start having to make all those decisions, life maybe isn't good.

Speaker 1 That whole second half of the negative drawbacks of having that particular job rarely gets talked about whenever guys are getting new jobs.

Speaker 1 Like when Ben Johnson was turning down jobs, the conversation was, this guy's an idiot. This guy is not going to be the bell of the ball every single year.
He needs to take it.

Speaker 1 Then he takes the Chicago Bears job and immediately they're having success. They're obviously pumped up about that.

Speaker 1 But I think it's much harder for these coordinators to say, I don't want it than we're just kind of giving credit to. And if Josh McDaniels actually does that,

Speaker 1 good on the Patriots and good on Josh McDaniels for looking in the mirror and being like, my life's good right now. This guy's unbelievable.
He's six foot five. He can run faster than everybody.

Speaker 1 My family likes the area. Look at his house.
This is a really good house. But then there's a thought, well, if if my salary doubles, I can get the house that Rames is living in.

Speaker 1 Or I can go ahead and win a Super Bowl as my own head coach. Like there's, it's such a battle.
It's a very tough decision, I think, for anybody to make, especially if you're offered a head job.

Speaker 1 There's not a lot of them.

Speaker 4 Well, and maybe McDaniel is different because, you know, he's, or McDaniel's, excuse me, because he's done it, you know, two times.

Speaker 4 But like, that's what's tough is you're talking about the ego portion. And, hey, like, I need to set aside and do what's best for me and my family, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 4 Like, how much money you're getting paid feeds directly into your ego. It's like, oh, wow, you're telling me I'm worth $12 million a year, not three and a half.
Like,

Speaker 4 that's why it's, you know, because

Speaker 4 they're all going to be tied always.

Speaker 1 If Nathaniel stays up there, they're going to be a problem. Joining us now live from an attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, A.J.
Hall. Yeah, Hogan.
Hawker, sorry for the delayed introduction.

Speaker 1 We obviously would like to celebrate you as a human on this Quismus. Okay, Merry Quizmus to you.
I don't know if you got a chance to watch.

Speaker 10 Yes, congrats to BA for, I guess what, the first ever Merry Quizmus champion.

Speaker 1 He is Quizmus champion. He's undefeated.
He's the only reigning champion that we've ever had. So obviously he's going to carry that title well with a $10,000 donation.

Speaker 1 We're excited to do it maybe next week with a different name.

Speaker 1 It was a good time. Felt like I learned a lot of things.
But speaking of BA and speaking of McDaniels, it's time to give out BA's weekly game balls.

Speaker 1 BA, all week we've been celebrating, you know, outstanding performances with game balls. This is standard operating procedure in NFL buildings.
Coach come in on Monday with a couple actual game balls.

Speaker 1 They'll be painted up too so you can put them up in the office or in the house. Your stats, the game, the win, everything like that.
It's a big celebration by everybody. Whoa.
Whoa.

Speaker 1 What the hell was that?

Speaker 2 AQ's Mike? Now we're,

Speaker 1 now we are.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's not be doing that. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for a celebration from the AFC and a celebration from the NFC.
Coach B.A.,

Speaker 1 whose game balls this week?

Speaker 5 Well, being Christmas, we're going with duos.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like that.

Speaker 5 It's really hard to separate the quarterback from the receiver. Got it.
And they both have great games in the AFC, Drake May and Stephon Diggs.

Speaker 1 Hey, congratulations.

Speaker 5 Stephon did an unbelievable job of leadership on that sideline. When they were down, he was pumping everybody, keep your chin up, all the stuff he was saying, making miraculous catches.

Speaker 5 And Drake May is just unbelievable.

Speaker 1 J-Bob, what do you think this Vrabel-led Patriots culture? Is it Drake May and he knows he can be special? Do you think he's at the stage of life where he's like, you know what, I want want to win?

Speaker 1 Like, what do you think Stephon Diggs is thinking up there in New England?

Speaker 3 I mean, yeah, definitely want to win. And he's been in some different situations.
He's always been productive, but for whatever reason, he hasn't been able to get to that point.

Speaker 3 He's played with, you know, pretty good quarterbacks, I would say, for the majority of his career, but been in this situation with Vrabel.

Speaker 3 And he even talked about like, you know, I can't believe Vrabel had me to buy in because that's the toughest part, too.

Speaker 3 When you're a veteran player and you get into a new system or with a new coach, it's tough to get that guy to buy in.

Speaker 3 But when it starts from the top, as far as the leadership in the locker room and those guys are buying in, it trickles down. It always starts with your quarterback as well.

Speaker 3 Got a young quarterback, Drake May, who even before the draft, we all knew it felt like he was going to be a great locker room guy, and it's all clicking.

Speaker 1 Drake May, the guy, Bruce Aarons, because he's tall, athletic, he seemingly understands what defenses are doing, and he can make every single throw.

Speaker 1 And he's seemingly in between the ears, has the Moxie to be a starting quarterback. And also, yeah, he's younger, brother, so he's been beat up his whole life, so he's naturally going to be humble.

Speaker 1 humble so is this the part is this the one is drake may the one ba is there a chance he becomes the one oh there i don't think there's any doubt he's just gonna stay healthy keep building keep building that offensive line around him and keep bringing in those weapons i mean this kid is amazing how's he end up in new england because the last one ended up up there how's that how's this happen i don't understand it well the last one i mean i think is why bill belatra's greatness is kind of undeniable but this one feels more so like oh the cool shiny toys caleb williams and Jaden Daniels, the Heisenberg winner in the in the generational talents.

Speaker 2 And then Drake May is just like, oh shoot, I just like playing football and, you know, doing the doing the thing and playing with my boys. But Diggs especially, I was talking to AQ about this.

Speaker 2 If this does go as planned, looking back on this Patriots for Abel May era, I think everyone will say Stephon Diggs was one of the most important signings in reestablishing that New England Patriots winning culture.

Speaker 1 Which he was for Josh Allen as well. If you think about the development of Josh Allen, Stephon Diggs being added to the Buffalo Beatles from the Minnesota Vikings was a massive upgrade.

Speaker 1 I think like 25% better

Speaker 1 completion percentage and everything like that for Josh Allen. And now Drake May only in his second year.
It took Josh a couple years to find out who he is. Feels like Drake knows exactly who he is.

Speaker 1 Feels like the Patriots know who he is. And it sounds like McDaniel's never leaving.
He's just going to be an offense coordinator and only worry about that forever. So congratulations, Dewey.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's just, you guys might as well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 the Celtics stink, don't they?

Speaker 2 Yeah, well i'm look i'm not gonna go out on a limb and celebrate beating the pacers after being down 20 on we were up though i thought we weren't yeah you guys were up 20 and then the pace and the entire celtics bench came in and won but the pacers are 6 and 23 so we don't have to get into that the the patriots thing though you guys should think about just jumping ship what the colts the colts like it doesn't look good okay packers i guess you should say debut's already a fan of the pats aq i think is slowly but surely i kind of have what come through

Speaker 1 why how come i love josh mcdaniels I love his play sequencing throughout the game. I love Will Campbell.
I love Jared Wilson. They rebuilt their line.

Speaker 1 And the crazy thing is when you look at this team and the talent that they have on that roster, it's about one-tenth of what he's going to have in about two, three years. Literally.

Speaker 1 So are you going to be a Patriots fan now? Are you a Patriots fan? No, but I just like what they're doing. I'm a big fan of watching offenses, and I love everything that Josh McDonald.

Speaker 1 He's bringing back the old school fullback. He's running the same offense he ran with Tom Brady in 2001, except he's got better athletes at this point.
How do you feel about Vrabel?

Speaker 1 Why'd he get fired from?

Speaker 1 Because he can sell it to Drake. Like, hey, everybody thought we were ass.
Vrabel got fired. Yeah.
Yeah. He got actually,

Speaker 1 that's crazy the thing about he got fired from the Tennessee Titans, basically. Out of nowhere, we're all just like, Mike Vrabel is that?

Speaker 1 Mike Bubble Stinky is certainly, but then he had some years where he had 100 and some people on IR or whatever, and there's another one seed in the AFC.

Speaker 1 And then obviously it was very clear that there was some differing of opinion between him and ownership and front office.

Speaker 1 And I think ownership was potentially on his side a little bit, and then ownership got on front office side.

Speaker 1 And that's potentially because of day-to-day politicking potentially happening behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 So Vrabel could have had a lot of things that potentially motivated him to have a chip on his shoulder to be a head coach. But him and New England seemingly perfect for each other.
Why is that coach?

Speaker 5 It's a great marriage. I mean, he knows that patriot system, everything, but Mike Vrabel, I've known for a long time.

Speaker 5 Totally respect him as a player and a coach. And, you know, we talked a lot in the last couple of years.
I was shocked he didn't go straight straight back to being a head coach.

Speaker 5 He sat with Browns and watched that dysfunction, you know, for a year. And like,

Speaker 1 I learned how not to do it, you know. But that whole thing in Tennessee, they were rolling.

Speaker 5 They were rolling. And then all the politics got involved from the front office.
It feels like that.

Speaker 1 And the head.

Speaker 5 Personnel and coaching, they have to be intertwined to win.

Speaker 5 If personnel and coaching are different, You got players, we don't have any players. That shit don't fly.
Yeah. You're not going to win.
And they've got it all going on in New England right now.

Speaker 2 Like, that's what's so cool, too, is that there isn't technically a GM really in New England right now. Like, he is the supreme leader of the entire thing.

Speaker 2 And when you mention the politic, and they had multiple different GMs.

Speaker 2 There were guys moving up in the front office, moving down, that maybe had no business getting promotions or a job in the first place.

Speaker 2 Not that I know anything about it, but looking back on it, from what people have said about the situation, that seems to be the correct assessment.

Speaker 2 But Vrabel really is like, hey, these are the guys we're going with, and this is what the team I want to be.

Speaker 2 And Elliott Wolf also from the old regime, Belichick and Mayo has survived, has picked dudes who have played very, very well under the Vrabel era.

Speaker 2 And it just feels as though Vrabel is the complete supreme commander.

Speaker 1 And on that note, AJ, Vrabel-style players, somebody over here, I forget who it was. Sorry, there's a lot of microphones right now.

Speaker 1 Somebody said this is one-tenth of the amount of talent they're going to have in the future. That's because they know exactly who they are right now.

Speaker 1 Now they have all the, they have the most money, too. What do you think is the type of guy that Vrabe was looking for, AJ?

Speaker 10 Oh, I mean, I'm sure he, that's the thing about Raves, like he's an absolute old school guy.

Speaker 10 I've known him for a long time, but even talking to him throughout his whole coaching journey, he's like the old school meat head, but he's crazy smart.

Speaker 10 And you talked to anyone that played with him, they said, like, Rabes was a coach on the field. If we ever question, we went to Rabes and he always had the answer for us.

Speaker 10 But I think he also is smart enough to evolve. And like when I talk about like, hey, how do you even, can you even coach these kids?

Speaker 10 Like, if I ever run into him, like, can you coach these kids hard like you want to? He's like, yeah, man.

Speaker 10 He's like, we can, these kids are kids it's just what they've grown up in what's around them it's all that he said it's different but it's not like it's not worse we just have to find a way to get through to them and obviously braves is his message is getting across he's in a great spot because his kids all the same age right so he literally knows all the references shit he knows all the shit because he's been and he's a human too and braves knows that there's a world outside of football going on a lot of coaches don't know that like there is life outside of football yes and brabes is one of the most self-aware people we've seen and also intimidating guys i mean that's why why McDaniels, I don't think, will leave to what AJ just said.

Speaker 2 Like McDaniels' biggest thing that he talked about when he was at the podium one day was just like, hey, Vrabel understands that it's not just football.

Speaker 2 Like when we come in and it's, you know, just the coaches talking, like, we talk about our families and what's going on like off the fields.

Speaker 2 We're not just like, hey, leave all your shit at the front door. When you're in here, it's strictly football.
Like, it's not like that in the building.

Speaker 2 And that's why I think the culture is the way it is, you know, let alone the, hey, don't be uncomfortable to the players when he's walking in the cafeteria, but with the coaches, with each other.

Speaker 2 It's not just all ball. It is also like, hey, life is a part of it.

Speaker 1 So what are you saying? You're saying we can jump ship and become Patriots fans at this moment? Because it looks like we got about 20, 30 years again for the New England fans.

Speaker 2 I'm saying if I'm not.

Speaker 1 BA says never. BA says never.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, BA is going to ride the Buccaneers until they stink.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he was also with the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Indianapolis Colts. Both those fan bases.

Speaker 4 New England, yeah, right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Empire.

Speaker 5 Legit. Chiefs, Saints.
I got fired a bunch of times.

Speaker 1 Because of the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what happened but it does feel like you have a very likable team now on that note don't you worry about the Colts okay big three are gonna do their thing I'm excited to see what it is boy people calling for a lot of things after last night and you know all Phil Rivers is saying hey we still got chip in a chair brother okay I've seen worse and I've seen people get in so I'm gonna continue to play I'm gonna continue to do my thing they're calling for a lot and I would like people to know that I understand that it has not been the most successful football here for the Indianapolis Colts this year I think there were some really unfortunate injuries injuries.

Speaker 1 I mean, Daniel Jones,

Speaker 1 would he have been able to survive the whole season? I don't know. I think maybe.
I think he would have been.

Speaker 1 And would he have been able to continue to do what he was doing and only get better in Shane Seikin's offense? I think so.

Speaker 1 Whenever he comes in with a broken fibula, okay, out of nowhere, we go from first team in the NFL to me, okay, seven weeks, I don't know how many, six weeks, seven weeks, I had the number one headline coming out of the NFL weekend, Slate is the Colts are winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 That's undefeated team.

Speaker 1 Colts are winning the Super Bowl. Colts were number one offense in the NFL.
Colts are winning the Super Bowl. I legitimately thought all three phases, this team can do it.

Speaker 1 Once I saw that video from James Boyd, I think is his name, the Romeo Ville kid,

Speaker 1 of Daniel Jones after the bye week turning around to hand the ball off and he couldn't move. I immediately said, it's over.
I literally, in real time.

Speaker 10 Who was acting? Was it Shefty that said, like, oh, I don't think it's going to be a problem. Like, he's going to be fine.
He'll be able to handle it. And I was like, it's a broken leg, Shefty.

Speaker 10 I don't, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 We see it. He can't move.
A part of the offense is him being able to move. Like, that is, that's why him and AR were kind of like, hey, we could kind of try a similar offense.
AR, obviously.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this, as soon as we saw this,

Speaker 1 as soon as we saw this, I knew it was over. I got on the microphone.
I had just said the culture goes, Frog right there giving him the snap. He knows, too, as soon as he saw it.

Speaker 1 He goes, no, no, we're coming off a bye week. This is not how this is supposed to go.
As soon as I see this, I go on a microphone.

Speaker 1 All of a sudden, people start attacking me for being negative about the Colts. All you little flip-floppers.
Like, no, man, I was just watching these games.

Speaker 1 The reason why we were good is because Danny Danny Diamonds could move. Danny Diamonds would get us into the right position.
That was the difference between him and AR.

Speaker 1 And he was able to do all the shit that AR was able to do. And he was an accurate passer.
Like, we had a real shot. If he's not going to do it, we're in trouble.
We are in trouble.

Speaker 1 So I got a little bit negative too. But then I sold myself on some dreams.
Phil Rivers. This guy can do it.
Turns out he can. Yeah.
Turns out he actually can. But on defensive side.

Speaker 1 We're never going to be healthy enough to be able to survive. And then we gave away a lot of pieces for a guy that's not able to play right now.

Speaker 1 sales garner we gave away we gave away some money to another corner coming in from san francisco supposed to be a guy he just knocked out of pregame he's never

Speaker 1 it's like this year for the colts was a whoom and then seemingly if you took it from the first shot of the broken fibula that which i kind of did yeah i mean it was a rock quick ride to the top i was so excited we're going to win the super bowl and then boom it went like this and this is another year of not having success this is another year of not winning the AFC South.

Speaker 1 This is another year of not being in playoffs. This is another year of not being able to.
So like Colts fans are getting a little restless, I think. And it's been Chris Balor to this entirety.

Speaker 1 Shane Steichen's been here a long time. And I think every year we've been able to bring up like very valid excuses, like very valid excuses for him.

Speaker 1 But I think we're at the point where the Colts fans are like, we're done with the valid excuses.

Speaker 1 So we need to sage this place then, is what you're saying.

Speaker 1 And that's, I don't like it, right? Because I think very valid excuses. Like, I think we got a quarterback that was our guy,

Speaker 1 was going to be our guy. He gets hurt.
Like a lot of teams are going to struggle after losing your guy. We trade two ones for a corner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he can't really, he's not going to be able to play like most of the games that are very important actually going forward because he's going to get injured on first play of a game, basically.

Speaker 1 So the other guy gets hurt.

Speaker 1 It's like, there's a lot of excuses to go around for the Indianapolis Colts, but I think the one we should talk about the most is, and honestly, he might do that to a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Second BA game ball on the NFC side is going to who, coach?

Speaker 5 Brock Purdy and Kristen McCaffrey. We watched that last night live and in person, and it's like, whoo, these guys are on fire right now.

Speaker 1 Is it because of them, or is it because of the Colts being ass? Because a lot of people are saying that.

Speaker 5 It was them. I mean, Brock's back foot hit the back.
The ball was out.

Speaker 5 Ball was out. It was accurate.
And they're off and running. Christian is amazing.
Like you said, I don't know how he never gets tired. And he's going to get his thousand,000.

Speaker 5 That puts him in rare, rare air.

Speaker 1 Yeah, only person ever to have multiple thousand,

Speaker 1 thousand through the ground or on the ground, a thousand thousand through the sky he's uh i forget how many yards away 163 uh through the sky uh to get that done passed a thousand on the ground last night he's outrageous he never gets tired aj we're watching him live you know just because he is a specimen you look at him it's like that's like a robo cop type that looks like uh the knockum sockum robot.

Speaker 1 That's what he's he's just like arms jacked, shoulders jacked, body, everything jacked. Just a machine of a human.
Like actually looks like he was created in a lab.

Speaker 1 And if you you go back through his dna he kind of was uh just like olympic shit professional athlete all over the family tree i mean the whole family tree basically above him is that so he was always going to be an incredible athlete i think but whenever you get a chance to watch him live it's like damn he's so explosive he's so explosive holes tiny he's gone and then he's always moving like whenever we were watching tyree kill back in the day Christian McCaffrey's always moving and he never celebrates shit.

Speaker 1 Touchdown obviously does, but in between plays, it's right back in there. I'm getting the ball again.
Let's go ahead and do this. It's like as expected.

Speaker 1 He's a special talent, this Christian McCaffrey guy. Watching him live was a different experience, I would say.

Speaker 10 Yeah, watch this play right here. Okay, you want to cover that? You want to be Zaire Franklin right there when he has a five-way go on you? And that's just in the red zone, especially.

Speaker 10 Like, can you, I cannot imagine how much attention you have to pay to Christian McCaffrey. But yeah, him and Uscheck and that offense, they are absolutely rolling.
And Coach B.A. is right.

Speaker 10 Like, Brock Purdy's on fire right now, man. He's feeling it.
I think he's going to continue to roll.

Speaker 1 Is it Ushchek, AQ? I know you've put a lot of spotlight on the fullback from Harvard, number 44. Is it Yuszzchek that really is the thing, or is it like all of it, obviously?

Speaker 1 I mean, it's all of it, but he makes it go because of all of the things that he can do. It's all of the different things.
He's interchangeable with Kittle, but then he's a great blocking fullback.

Speaker 1 Also, just read a stat earlier today since 2017. Non-receiver, non-tight end.
He has the most 20-plus catches in the NFL since 2017. Kyle Yuszczyk.
The Juice is special, always has been.

Speaker 1 He doesn't seem to ever slow down. You know, it looks like he's getting younger.
He responded to my tweet about the Niners being a really good football team. And he didn't say, yeah, they are, Pat.

Speaker 1 I don't like that. I'm kind of getting a sense of attitude from the Niners, you know, a little bit.
Like, hey, you did your thing last night. You're welcome coming into the Loud House doing that.

Speaker 1 I said, the Niners are a really good football team. He responded, yeah, they are, Pat, okay? And then George Kittle, I sent him a Godspeed on the ankle, you know, like you were unstoppable.

Speaker 1 He goes, I saw you in the pregame, blah, blah, blah. It's like, he didn't come say hello.
He was talking like, yes, they are, Pat. Here's Uscheck.
It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 What do you want me to do? Why didn't they come say hello? Now that I'm thinking about it, oh, because they were too locked in on that ass beating. I mean, that offense was a machine.

Speaker 1 I mean, they were fun to watch. And Trent Williams, I mean, we don't have to get into it.
Well, we will.

Speaker 1 We will. We'll get there.
Oh, yeah. We'll get there at some point.
Okay, I'm excited to get into that.

Speaker 2 Also, like, genuinely now after last night, concern for Brandon Ayuk, because if you're a wide receiver and you're watching that, how can you not be like, boy, I want to play with those guys so bad.

Speaker 1 So let me get this straight. If I just run my route right, which I can control.
I can control me running my route. I just got to get to a spot at a certain time.
This guy's never going to miss.

Speaker 1 Is that what this is? There was one miss. We got a pick.

Speaker 1 And AQ, I think what you said was, you know, with his size, there are some things because he's going to have the trajectory of that thing is going to have to go up. So if it floats a little bit.

Speaker 1 Tips and overthrows, got to get those. He does sometimes have those, right, AQ? He sails the ball over the middle a little bit every once in a while.

Speaker 1 And you saw it last night, the one interception, but you think back to the Carolina game, it all all comes down to timing, and it's all this stuff over the middle of the field that he's trying to throw to a spot.

Speaker 1 And if the timing's off just a little bit, then that's when the interceptions come.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think what's his downfall is the weather that we've seen in some games down in Cullis Station

Speaker 5 in Chicago. When that wind's blowing, if you don't have a real strong arm, it's going to really affect your ball.
Okay, and I think when he fails, sometimes it's weather. All right.
And

Speaker 5 I don't think it's something he can overcome.

Speaker 5 His arm's not getting any stronger. Oh, God.
So

Speaker 5 if he's going to go on the road in the playoffs in bad, windy weather, I think it'll really affect him.

Speaker 1 Okay, they might have home game for the rest of the season.

Speaker 1 Now, Santa Clara, I don't know the wind. I know back in Candlestick, it was breezy out there in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 I don't know what Santa Clara is, but you're saying, because if we go back to the Cleveland game last year, I think about he had like three picks or whatever. It's like that was in Cleveland, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like you're saying, hey, every once in a while, when you're going to deal with some real shit and arm strength does kind of show up a little bit more, that is when it could potentially show up.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I saw him spinning that thing.

Speaker 1 That a tight, tight spiral, coach. I mean, that thing's cutting through, I think, whatever.

Speaker 5 It's still loopy.

Speaker 5 It's still loopy.

Speaker 1 All right. It's not Marino.

Speaker 5 All right. It's loopy.

Speaker 1 It's on Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 Same.

Speaker 1 But what about Peyton? Peyton had a little loopy, didn't he?

Speaker 5 He did.

Speaker 1 But he knew he would go out and warm up for an hour.

Speaker 5 The last game of the year up in Cleveland, it's snowing.

Speaker 1 He said, we got to go early.

Speaker 5 He went out through in each corner of the end zone to find the win, where his ball was going. He got on the 50, every direction, and he knew exactly where his ball was going.

Speaker 1 So, Brock, this is what we need to do. We need to find the wins in these places.
Let's go ahead and get after that is what BA is saying.

Speaker 3 It took Peyton a while. Going up there to Foxborough, dealing with those elements, obviously dealing with the defenses.
It definitely takes a while.

Speaker 3 So these last couple games for San Francis will be huge because I'm going to trust the QB Whisperer's word.

Speaker 2 I don't. Yeah, it took Peyton so long that

Speaker 2 they started bitching and moaning

Speaker 2 about the physicality

Speaker 2 that the Bill Belichick DBs were using on the...

Speaker 1 Has the game got to a better spot or not? I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Hey, Kyle,

Speaker 1 Eye of the Beholder. For all fans, yeah.

Speaker 2 For New England Patriots fans, yeah.

Speaker 1 Sock football fans. More people watching now or whenever you guys wanted to grab on to Marvin Harrison Harrison and Reggie Wayne.
We weren't grabbing, we were punishing. Yeah, we were bullying.

Speaker 1 And what about Dallas Clark? When you guys jumping on his back, huh?

Speaker 2 Dallas Clark, yeah, right. He was probably bitching and moaning, too.

Speaker 1 Dallas is jacked, by the way. Yeah, great shape.
Unbelievable. Yeah, he looked good.
That picture. He's as hard as.
I mean, he is this table.

Speaker 10 You hit him. How was the atmosphere over there?

Speaker 1 It was a lot, Hassi. For a little.

Speaker 1 You know what the deal was.

Speaker 1 Go first quarter. No, the Pogo guys, the Pogo Boys, ex-Pogo, extreme Pogoing.

Speaker 1 They're from Pittsburgh, actually, not not from Indiana.

Speaker 1 And they sent it, I will say, they were doing front flips and back flips over other humans that they had never met before other than the day of the rehearsal, I assume.

Speaker 1 So shout out to the ex-Pogo squad. And then Red Panda on

Speaker 1 a floor that was put together right before she went out there at the 50-yard line in front of 70,000 Plus with a different song and different lighting.

Speaker 1 Not only the five bowls, also goes ahead and smashed the six-bowl grand finale for the Colts Carnival at halftime.

Speaker 1 It was a special night in the Lot House. So yeah, I'd say it was a good environment.
Red Panda was at halftime. There was glowing and dark humans.
Pogo sticks were going extreme.

Speaker 1 And yeah, Phil Rivers was spinning it all over the place. The Loud House was electrifying.
Didn't I love that they were up against Gluck? And,

Speaker 1 you know, just like you have to turn music off at 20 seconds on the play clock, just like the sound goes off at 15.

Speaker 1 I think there's an NFL rule on how much time you have to have all of the field clear before a game at the end of halftime for regular season games. And that time came uh right about

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 see the round right there right

Speaker 1 now okay it's over pa guys that's the show trying to get everybody off the field right because that is like against the rule and red pant is like hold the phone bang

Speaker 1 let me go ahead and splash six real quick was this her nfl debut I think somebody said stadium debut. I do think somebody said that.

Speaker 1 Now, granted, that was just people around Sweet.

Speaker 1 We were obviously gassing that situation up pretty big we were obviously going absolutely crazy for that as everybody was it wasn't just uh our suite it was all 78 whatever the thousands is including a lot of niners fans really and niner faithful did feel that way on tv did feel that way they were loud dude holy there's there was some niners chance happening and i was like whoa and then you look up and it's all the red sea of red it's like holy where are they from they traveled to for california and they're like no actually i'm from chicago just massive niners fan where are you from Ohio.

Speaker 1 Like, Niners Faithful are all across.

Speaker 5 They had the plane in from Atlanta. It was half Niners fans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think. I think Niners fans are

Speaker 1 nationwide, brother.

Speaker 1 Travel wild fan base.

Speaker 2 Shout out to Montana.

Speaker 1 Steve Young. Jeridon.

Speaker 1 Jerry. Who's Coach's? Thank you Waters.

Speaker 1 Bill Walsh.

Speaker 5 Bill Walsh and George Sefert.

Speaker 1 Mooch. Mooch,

Speaker 1 Big Mooch.

Speaker 4 Mooch and Jeff Garcia.

Speaker 1 What he did to T.O., what he did to T.O. and Jerry Rice, just outrageous.
Tough spot.

Speaker 1 Coach Mooch is what do you want from me? The plan was to do that.

Speaker 1 Did you ever hear that story from Coach Mooch?

Speaker 10 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I think the way it goes is it was Jerry Rice Appreciation Day. And T.O.
went for like 14, maybe 150 yards, and Jerry won for like maybe a reception for eight yards or something like that.

Speaker 1 It was some sort of celebration for one of them, and the other person got the ball the entire game. And obviously, Mooch is the one who's to blame for that entire thing because he was the head coach.

Speaker 1 I don't remember the exact, but it was like a full-on bobblehead appreciation, celebration of existence for one of them. And then the other guy just goes absolutely crazy.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. T.O.
had 20 receptions for 283

Speaker 1 on Jerry Rice Day.

Speaker 10 Five games worth.

Speaker 2 Knowing Jerry Rice, like we know him.

Speaker 10 Yep. Everybody's a competitor.

Speaker 1 20 receptions for 200 yards. It was even more than what I said.

Speaker 3 From the AI overview, now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't know if that's a good idea.

Speaker 10 I mean, they were afraid of probably doubling and tripling Jerry.

Speaker 1 They didn't want him on Bobblehead Day to put put up 280 as well so that's what mooch says mooch gave us a whole jerry they're they got three guys on yeah i don't know this guy's wide open he's a really good football player too we've got to give him the ball and clearly he was seemingly always open which that's the old football that's right also breaking the 49ers jerry rice's record for 16 catches in a game oh boy you see you can't do that you can't do that but post-game didn't jerry retain his mvp of tailgate

Speaker 1 i don't know i don't know about that i hope they won the game I don't know about that. Jerry Ricerone is delightful, and we certainly love everything about it.
I do think they won the game.

Speaker 1 Antio got the game ball.

Speaker 1 All right,

Speaker 1 let's go to another segment we run every week whenever Coach BA is here. It's a time where we state

Speaker 1 quotes as fact. And BA tells us if it's BS or no BS.
Let's get to the first one. Go ahead, Con Man.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Bruce, the most important thing on planet Earth in the year 2026 isn't AI or public health. It's the refs contract negotiations with the NFL.
Is that BS or no BS, BA?

Speaker 5 That is total no BS.

Speaker 1 Whoa,

Speaker 1 AI is pretty important.

Speaker 5 This has to be done. We have to have professional referees.
And just looking at the Detroit Pitts and Detroit Pittsburgh game, the first pass interference, I immediately called Dean Blandino.

Speaker 5 and one of the other former referees, head of referees, and said, have they changed the rules? I said, no.

Speaker 5 If a DB is engaged with a wide receiver, there's no such thing as offensive pass interference. So Duggar does a great job of running into him.
But that's a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Detroit wins the game by the rule book.

Speaker 5 Now the problem is we have, I don't know how many sets of officials that all have their own damn interpretation of the rules.

Speaker 1 So that

Speaker 5 That right there is not offensive pass interference because the DB is engaged with the wide receiver.

Speaker 1 Hands are on the wide receiver.

Speaker 5 That's it. That's all it takes.
And Detroit wins the game and they're still in the playoffs. So for me, we need professional referees.

Speaker 5 We've talked about having former players go to a boot camp, give them a way to become referees.

Speaker 5 But these guys have to have accountability in the NFL office in New York, which they don't have. They only answer through the union.
All right, that has to stop.

Speaker 1 I agree. And their contract is up in May, and it's obviously a big deal.
It's the first time that we have seen, and the NFL has always gone to bat very heavily for the NFL officials.

Speaker 1 They find people if you say anything bad about the officials. They obviously come out and support them basically in any type of situation.

Speaker 1 Now, with the contract coming up, it does feel as if there's a time where the NFL agrees with some of our narratives about, hey, we could fix this. We should fix this.

Speaker 1 Like, allegedly, they can't talk to him from February until fall or whatever. Like the NFL can't even talk to the refs after the season ends for like three, four months or whatever.

Speaker 1 It's like, how is that beneficial to the game at all? And are you trying to spiteful negotiate or are you trying to make the game better?

Speaker 1 And that's kind of where, you know, they can kind of hopefully change some things with these officials. But you talk about that pipeline of players.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know if it could be a boot camp or an academy, but it's like, how do we figure out how to supply ourselves, the league, and create our own as opposed to relying on high schools from around the country, high school leagues and organizations, colleges around the league and organization.

Speaker 1 How does the NFL build a more self-sufficient NFL official pipeline? I think that that should be something that the big brains should be thinking about, Debu.

Speaker 3 Absolutely. They got to be.

Speaker 1 Because it's different than high school. It's different than college.
There's 50 million people watching you on some of these things. It's like, we need you to be good.

Speaker 3 It's a lot of money. Obviously, it's a lot of interest, but a lot of people bet money, a lot of things.
And it's the fastest, biggest league, best league in the world.

Speaker 3 So you should have the best refs in the world. I mean, that's simple math.

Speaker 1 And they should be fully committed to the team. Like, we are NFL officials.
That's what we are. They should have their own team.
They should have their own pool of people.

Speaker 1 They should have their own schooling. They should have their own hangout.
They should have their own trust falls in the office. I mean, they should have their own shit, AJ.

Speaker 1 I think we're all seeing it the same way, right? I think.

Speaker 10 Yeah, we absolutely are seeing it the same way. There's so much money on the line, too, because due to these calls, and the NFL knows that.
So it's going to have to change.

Speaker 10 I mean, they're going to have to tweak things, especially as we go.

Speaker 1 For the good of ball. For the good of ball.
For the good of ball. For the good of ball.
Let's go to the next BS or no, BS or BA tie.

Speaker 2 Yeah, coach, of all the teams that are absolute shit,

Speaker 4 in this case, last in their divisions, we're talking the Jets, Browns, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Vikings, and Cardinals.

Speaker 2 The New York football Giants are the only team that will make the playoffs next year.

Speaker 4 Is that BS or no BS, BA?

Speaker 5 I think that's no BS.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of teams.

Speaker 5 What the Giants are doing right now, and then their division, the Eagles is the first time to ever, what, 21 years? Yeah. They win this division two years in a row.

Speaker 5 You got Jackson, Dart, Scataboo, Neighbors, all those young pass rushers. If they can fix that secondary free agency in the draft, I would watch out for the Giants next year, year making a big jump.

Speaker 1 You like their defense?

Speaker 5 I love their defense. Yeah, those kids that can rush the pass, they're all young, too.

Speaker 1 So you're saying Jets, yeah, right. Brons, who knows? Titans, I don't think so.
Raiders, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Vikings with nine and Kevin O'Connell, another year, you're saying they're not going to make the playoffs?

Speaker 5 Not with J.J. versus

Speaker 5 Love, Williams, and Goff. No, J.J.
ain't beat those guys.

Speaker 1 NC North is tough. And then the Cardinals, obviously, nobody really has any hope for over there except for maybe their color commentator AQ.
He's saying Cardinals are not making a playoffs next year.

Speaker 1 What's that all about? Yeah, they're in a tough spot. They got to figure some things out.
They got to figure the quarterback situation out. They got to figure out the offensive line.

Speaker 1 They got to get some better players on defense. They got to stop getting injured.
They're the most injured team in the NFL. So they got a lot of things to fix.
Last BS or no BS would be AD, but wow.

Speaker 3 There will be wholesale changes in Baltimore this offseason. Lamar Jackson might be gone.
Harbaugh might be gone. The Ravens are about to enter a completely different era.
BS or no BS? BS?

Speaker 5 That's total total bullshit, brother.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 5 Lamar ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 5 And I don't think the owner is going to move anything on John.

Speaker 5 They need to

Speaker 5 get healthy, but they got to get back to the Ravens way of defense.

Speaker 5 What I'm watching is not the Ravens. The Ravens were the toughest, baddest bunch of some bitches I've ever played against with Suggs.

Speaker 5 And you go all the way back to all the pass rushers they've had, Holo De Nada and Ray Lewis, all those guys.

Speaker 5 I don't see the alpha mean, tough dogs on the Baltimore Ravens defense. They got to get back to that and they'll be right back.

Speaker 1 Do you think they'll be able to do that in one offseason, D. Bud? It's hard to shift a culture back to something, right, once it's already been covered.
I mean, I'm just beaising.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm a firm believer, obviously, in talent, and I think Harbaugh is a good coach, and that's who they've kind of historically been at their core. So, yeah, I think they can get back to that.

Speaker 1 All right, maybe Baltimore bounces back with the same pieces. I know the Baltimore Ravens fans will be pumped up about that, AJ.
I know they'll be excited about that.

Speaker 10 yeah i think so but i think one or two people can change the whole culture of the defense i think you can do that well what's going on with indianapolis then because i thought louis and rumo was coming over

Speaker 1 i mean injury things people get hurt things happen man you know we got no first rounders got no quarterback

Speaker 2 got two pro bowlers though yeah and at least you didn't pay danny dimes before all this happened No, we should have.

Speaker 3 You lose those corners. That changes everything.
That's like losing both your offensive tackles. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And when are they playing again?

Speaker 1 Are they?

Speaker 1 Probably not this season. No.

Speaker 1 Thanks.

Speaker 1 Godspeed, boys. We need you.

Speaker 2 Trevor Lawrence and the Jags this week.

Speaker 1 Bounce back. And then who? Some easy team? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, you're at Houston.

Speaker 1 At Houston?

Speaker 2 Yeah, home versus the Drags at Houston.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 It can be done.

Speaker 1 Raiders almost got possible. Raiders almost got a chip in a chair.
Boom.

Speaker 1 That's AJ. My name's Pat.
From all of us to you. Merry Christmas.
We appreciate the hell out of of you. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice.
It might change your life.

Speaker 3 I think we got it in.

Speaker 1 Merry Christmas was good. You guys really crushed it.
Yeah, incredible. That was fun, though.
That was pretty good. AJ, how about that? Shout out to Hembo for the questions.
Good questions.

Speaker 10 The early double down by BA was key. That was huge.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I thought that was a big play. We honestly didn't know how it was going to go.

Speaker 1 We've never done it before. I kind of threw it together before the show, pretty quickly before the show.
Shout out to Hembo.

Speaker 1 Dodge, duck, dip, diving, and dodging his way into sending us over the perfect amount of questions for what we were looking for. And the right questions.

Speaker 1 AQ, I thought, was going to maybe go OFER after this first couple. AQ, you thought you were in a deep water there early.

Speaker 1 You thought you had a chance because there was a little bit more confidence before the show than maybe in the moment when you were asked some questions.

Speaker 1 It's one of those things when you get the question, you think you have the answer, and then you see it and you talk yourself into about five others. Like I had the Trent Williams one, right?

Speaker 1 And then I was like, Aaron Rodgers has been playing for 20 years. There's no way he hasn't made more than 10 Pro Bowls.
Yep. He's only made 10.

Speaker 1 Well, how about Ryan Day and then going to the YouTube chat? That was smart. Shout out to the chat.
D-Butt, you would be in the link from the chat.

Speaker 3 I felt like that one was kind of layup. I just said the other thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little bit about him.

Speaker 10 That was the.

Speaker 1 I didn't know if D-Butt was saying actual the chat or just his thoughts. Go ahead.
The putt was huge. Oh, the thoughts.

Speaker 1 That was a good point.

Speaker 1 He got it wrong.

Speaker 1 I just want to let you guys know something. Okay.

Speaker 1 Somebody sent me a message. One of the Super Bowls was at the Rose Bowl.
Technically, that's considered Pasadena. But if you count that, technically still L.A., that's eight Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 So maybe we should add a half a point.

Speaker 1 Maybe we should add a half a point.

Speaker 5 We're going all of California now?

Speaker 1 It was stadium. It was stadium.
Yeah, but then I clarified and I asked about city, and you did say.

Speaker 1 I did say city, but with stadium being on there, not stadiums, I mean, I don't know what the actual, that's a good point, if that's accurate. If that's accurate, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 Of course it's accurate. Somebody sent it to me.
Of course, it's accurate. Yeah, of course.
Exactly. Pasadena and LA.
All right, how about this? All right. All right.
How about this?

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Got a final question? We will donate $10,000 to each of yours, K-charities of choosing, because of the Los Angeles mix-up. And we didn't really have rules, bylaws, guidelines for this thing, Adam.

Speaker 1 For an extra $5,000 donation, could we get your erase boards? Could we get your erase boards?

Speaker 3 Is that the one you had earlier?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I give you both.

Speaker 1 All right. Sweet jumpy luck.
There you go.

Speaker 8 Thanks.

Speaker 1 Thanks. You know it's not the board.
No,

Speaker 1 you know.

Speaker 2 It ain't the wands. It's a wizard.

Speaker 1 You never know, though. You really don't know.
You don't want to change it.

Speaker 10 Jay looks very confident.

Speaker 1 He doesn't even know the question. Relax over there, AJ.
Doesn't even know the question. Well, AQ's already riled up.
Yep.

Speaker 1 He's in his head. That's when AQ's at his best.

Speaker 1 He's in his bed.

Speaker 10 okay don't second cast at aq go with your first instinct yep that's the one

Speaker 1 merry christmas for five thousand dollars bonus if you both get it right it'll be way up

Speaker 1 a donation of five thousand to each fran tarkenton broke whose nfl record for career passwords in 1976

Speaker 1 Fran Tarkinton, obviously a quarterback that we absolutely love. A quarterback that did this has a lot of connections to us on

Speaker 1 the set here.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 1976, so obviously we're thinking of old-time football players here.

Speaker 1 Ken, write your guesses down if you have a dry race board in front of you. AJ, do you have a guess of a couple it could be?

Speaker 10 I have one guess.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 AQ's changing his answer.

Speaker 2 AQ's got no fucking clue. He also just googled it on his phone.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think he has his phone out. We've been watching.

Speaker 1 Yes. Here we go.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. AQ just made a little bit of an audible there.
B.A., can I see your hand? Okay. I think we have similar answers from AQ and B.A.

Speaker 1 AJ, would you like to give your answer or what you think it is?

Speaker 10 I was thinking, since you said connections, I'm thinking old Arch Manning for a second.

Speaker 1 Okay, Arch Manning, maybe with the Ains. I don't know how many years he played before 1976.
Yeah, I don't know. Ty, what is your guess here in this entire thing?

Speaker 4 I said Johnny United.

Speaker 1 Wow, that your answer is the same, I believe, as B.A.'s answer, which is the same as AQ's.

Speaker 1 Hey, Q, who'd you put up there?

Speaker 1 Joe Namuth. Ladies and gentlemen, it's

Speaker 1 Johnny United.

Speaker 1 B.A.

Speaker 3 AQ, what connection do we have to Joe?

Speaker 1 He was on game day four years ago. Come on.

Speaker 1 Colts, baby. Colts, Colts, Colts, Colts.
Isn't Joe Naman from Beaver Falls?

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 you're not. Oh, okay.
I was thinking Pittsburgh. When you said that, I was thinking Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's from Pittsburgh, too. God.
So, yes, I was talking about that.

Speaker 2 Johnny U's from Pittsburgh?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's why I said, hey, a lot of connections. Where's Johnny you from?

Speaker 1 I thought he went to Towson University in Baltimore. Oh, he went to Louisville, baby.
Jesus. Come on.
Sounds like I'm great at trivia. No, it sounds like you act like you're great at trivia.

Speaker 3 You set up for failure. 1976.

Speaker 1 I was leaning towards PA all day. That was the only last question we had left.
It says Pittsburgh PA here. Let me see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no other. It actually says Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is where he's from.
Yeah, Mr. Born McGee.
He was born in McGee. He was born in McGee, Women's Hospital, like myself, and I think you as well.

Speaker 1 That's right. And I think he was actually his home, first 10 years of his life.
The point, he actually lived at the fountain. There at the point in between the three rivers.

Speaker 1 Where they're setting up the draft. Yeah, the most Pittsburgh that somebody could be from.
perfect and uh yeah he grew up on mountain he did grow up on mount washington yeah he's actually

Speaker 1 the highest born of pittsburgh i was thinking of beaver county that's where i'm from so a lot of connections a lot of connections i was trying to give you the answer mr rooney always said that was biggest mistake he ever made letting johnny out that not drafting him yeah letting him go yeah let him go yeah because it would have been a pittsburgh legend obviously whatever in the way he played how long he played extra five thousand dollars a year donation in a 1 i guess if that ends up being true the pasadena thing if it ends up being true.

Speaker 2 If not, deduct his money.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you donate it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're donating as well. All right, let's get to a break on the other side.
Congratulations. Two-time Merry Christmas championship.
Wow.

Speaker 1 AQ. Great job.

Speaker 2 AQ, geez.

Speaker 1 You're completely defeated. It was like, you know, Buffalo Wild Wings did that trivia thing where they start giving you the clues, but the points get down?

Speaker 1 It's like, I genuinely thought saying a lot of with eyes. Oh, yes.
I thought that was like giving you the Buffalo Wild Wings. I was trying to help you out.

Speaker 1 To my credit, almost every quarterback in the Hall of Fame comes from Pittsburgh, so.

Speaker 1 To your credit.

Speaker 1 To my credit. You did that to them.
Bingo. Way to put them in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 Up for two. Completely duff-feeded in Quizmus.
It's always next year. But we shouldn't focus on the negatives.
That's right. It's always next year.
Let's focus on the negative.

Speaker 5 All you golfers, that's why you press on the third hole.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a good time to press. But if you're getting your ass kicked, you're going to have to do that again.
Press going into 18. All the way.
Ever chance. Just keep pressing.

Speaker 3 Go for the throat.

Speaker 1 Man, I didn't expect you to be a completely defeated Quizmus player.

Speaker 2 It's so bad. Tough look for Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 That's a holly, jolly time.

Speaker 4 Sounds like if we would have done like 1990 to 1995 Pittsburgh Steelers trivia, though.

Speaker 1 Would have nailed it.

Speaker 3 Would have fucking knocked it up.

Speaker 1 A couple more pennies. Number 95 for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 Which time? I mean, you want to go Greg Lloyd? You want to go Kendrel Bell? We want to keep going.

Speaker 1 Craig Lloyd.

Speaker 1 Catcher for the Pittsburgh Pirates, obviously.

Speaker 1 I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 Come on. Andy Van Schlyke and the boys.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 What's that? He's looking for one. He's looking for one.
I'm looking at Jason Kendall. He's the final answer.
Of course. No, of course.

Speaker 1 Greatest pop time of all time. Jason Kendall.

Speaker 1 Mike Lavalier.

Speaker 10 Benito Santiago, though.

Speaker 1 We know that. What's that, buddy?

Speaker 10 He didn't have much on Benito Santiago. He revolutionized the game from a catcher position.

Speaker 1 What did Benito do that you love so much?

Speaker 10 You know, everything. He started throwing dudes out from his knees, bro.
He's that flexible. Put on some Benito highlights.

Speaker 1 Jason Kendall would catch the pitch, drop the glove, throw with his offhand, throw people out. What are we talking about, Revolution? That's pretty quick.
Pop time.

Speaker 1 That's not Rue. You ever watched Jason Kendall play baseball?

Speaker 3 That's not Rue.

Speaker 1 Exactly. I have.
So I've been here a mile.

Speaker 10 Seems inefficient, too.

Speaker 3 There's no Mike Piazza.

Speaker 2 He's a Shohei of the catcher position.

Speaker 4 Well, with all due respect, neither one of these fucking guys are Mike Piazza, but

Speaker 5 not even that DNA.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I was going to say that's a story for a different day.

Speaker 1 You need the water.

Speaker 4 Mike Piazza was a fucking dog.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Still burning it. It's from Pennsylvania, too.
Mike's guess.

Speaker 1 Who's this highlight of?

Speaker 1 That's Benito Santiago. He did revolutionize the game, didn't he? Holy shit.

Speaker 10 He's young. He played for 25 years, too.
Look at that. Oh, no one was doing that before him.

Speaker 1 Sorry about it. Yeah.
I mean, he was way early. I mean, that guy was halfway to the second.

Speaker 1 Perfect.

Speaker 1 I guess I'm being told there was a little bit of some conversation about him during his career on potential enhancements and stuff like that. Yeah, but all those guys weren't.

Speaker 1 That was that.

Speaker 2 That wasn't against the rules.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they didn't know. I mean, everybody was doing it.
Hey, you eat a little trembling. Wait,

Speaker 1 allegedly. He wasn't.
That was early in his career.

Speaker 4 Oh, wait until you see Benito Santiago with the red circa 20 2003.

Speaker 1 Look a little different. Yeah, it looked a little different.

Speaker 1 That's what I was calling.

Speaker 10 That's what I was a big fan.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We didn't think it was the...
Is that the White Sox there? Who was he playing for? Shit, I couldn't tell you, but Padres, I believe, back then.

Speaker 4 He played so long. He played for probably eight years.

Speaker 1 He's in the Marlins for a while. Yeah.
Always having a mustache like that.

Speaker 4 I think he. I want to say, AJ, did he not transition to more of a goatee later in his career?

Speaker 10 He went goatee later on in his career. I mean, he played for like 30 years, so he went through a lot of eras.

Speaker 1 So Benito and Jason Kendall, pretty similar.

Speaker 4 Two P's in a pod.

Speaker 1 And you're saying Piazza's not in that pod? No.

Speaker 1 What's that all about? What do you mean?

Speaker 4 Piazza's at the fucking top of the tree.

Speaker 1 What about Charles Johnson? Is he close? As a catcher or a hit. Who the fuck is that? Charles Johnson?

Speaker 3 Mario Marlins legend. Florida Marlin's legend, actually.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 Pod Rodriguez.

Speaker 5 Martios don't have any legends.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh,

Speaker 1 D-Trane, same team. Whoa, whoa.
Champion's title.

Speaker 1 So we know Kyle Raleigh.

Speaker 1 So we know Kyle Raleigh's the best catcher ever.

Speaker 1 So then Piazza's number two.

Speaker 2 Jason Veritex, too.

Speaker 1 Jason Vertex number two. And then Piazza's number three.

Speaker 10 Pudge is up there.

Speaker 1 Piazza.

Speaker 4 Piazza, you know, you got Johnny Bench.

Speaker 1 You got, yeah, Molina.

Speaker 4 Rodriguez.

Speaker 1 Yachty Molina.

Speaker 2 What are you doing?

Speaker 4 I mean, I'm not just going to be a homer and say Posada, but yeah, Posada's pretty fucking good. Switch hitter.

Speaker 1 So Kyle Rawley is the best of all time? No. No.

Speaker 5 Best hitting catcher.

Speaker 1 No, he had a great year. Hey, he's not a Piazza.

Speaker 3 You're not even giving him the best hitting catcher.

Speaker 4 No, Piazza did it for year after year after year after year after year after year.

Speaker 1 And he was doing it against guys. Yeah, and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

Speaker 4 And he was doing it against guys who were taking steroids and and throwing 145 miles an hour you got guys guys like clements hulking up getting a broken bat back at him and saying you know what it i'm just gonna throw this barrel right at piazza's head try to shake him shake him up a little bit he did he did that in the world series to him you know so piazza had a he had a rough run but he was he's a fucking legend he's your favorite catcher no jorge posada is but bar none but uh but i do love mike piazza

Speaker 1 Jason Kengo, where's he at? He's up there.

Speaker 4 He's up there. No batting gloves, and he used to just fucking grit the sawdust sawdust off the bat.
Yeah, big chaws on the ball.

Speaker 1 Top 50. Obviously.

Speaker 1 50 what?

Speaker 2 Top 50 catchers, probably.

Speaker 1 Well, easily. Yogi.
Easily. Yogi, barrack.
Oh, Yogi Barra.

Speaker 5 So Johnny, you can't forget Yogi.

Speaker 1 Nothing goes to sold-out games anyways.

Speaker 1 What's that? He's no Johnny Ben. Oh, Mickey Cochrane.

Speaker 10 He was the standard.

Speaker 1 Cochrane, yeah. Yeah.
The lawyer. Yeah, Mickey Barron.
That's what they called him. Elsin Howard.
Really?

Speaker 1 I didn't know you were going to bring him up today. Big Elson.
Geez. Elson Howard.
That fucker could do it. He would just always like from here to here was just so cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was like Sammy Ball.

Speaker 1 Sammy Ball. Yeah.
Invented the forward pass. And then, you know, not just Mickey Cochran.

Speaker 1 Fisk. Carl Fisk.

Speaker 1 Oh, Buster Bose. Buster Posey.
Yeah, Big Posey. So good.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you putting that up? What are you talking about? That's my brain on display right there.

Speaker 2 You're a big David Ross guy.

Speaker 1 We got Piazza at seven. I love Grandpa Ross.

Speaker 1 He played catch.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 he ain't gonna find himself on any top.

Speaker 1 What the fuck are you talking about? You know what he's doing for the United States of America? I do.

Speaker 4 He's a great skipper, great manager, and he was a good player, but you ain't gonna find him on those lists.

Speaker 1 Grandpa Ross, he gave me a bat and practice in the middle of a tour bus one day, and I appreciate that. And then immediately afterwards, he said, ah, shit, I was only 200 hitter on.

Speaker 1 He's like, you do whatever he wants. Exactly.
It was one of the greatest lines I've ever seen. One of the greatest lines I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 And then he went on to recruit a pitcher to hopefully join Team USA. And it sounds like we got a real squad.

Speaker 4 Still doing it. We got big names like week over week or saying like, yeah, there's something different about Don and the Stars and Stripes.

Speaker 4 And Bryce Harper, it was either this morning or yesterday announced he's going to play too. We are going to have the best team by far.

Speaker 1 And Grandpa Rossi, I'm telling you, when I was standing in this bus with him, baseball player comes in.

Speaker 1 His eyes lit up. He's like, we need to get him on Team USA.
And I'm like, okay, good luck out to you. He's like, no, no, how are we going to, right now, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 Like, he very much, they're all in on like team USA baseball, like trying to win this thing. And I love that just watching him.
And I'm not, I don't know the baseball that well.

Speaker 1 I've tried to get into the baseball here, you know, MLB, not the MLB, obviously. I've tried to get into MLB because of how kind and how awesome.
some of the shit was this year. Great storylines.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 This year across it. So I've tried my best to get in there.
Watching his excitement to do what he was doing and then learning about his career and who he was. It's like, that guy's a living legend.

Speaker 1 That guy's an absolute living legend.

Speaker 4 It'd be a cool feather in his cap, too, to be the, the, you know, on the coaching staff when if all goes right and we do win this year.

Speaker 1 Cool. Yeah, Bryce Harper put the colors on my chest for the first time when I was 15.
Speak. No other feeling like it.

Speaker 1 I'm excited to announce I'll be representing Team USA this year in the World Baseball Classic. America.
Hell yeah, boys. That's what we're talking about.
Exactly. Paul is in there, too, right? Yep.
Is

Speaker 1 Scooby?

Speaker 1 You're talking about Aaron Judge? Yeah. Yeah, he's the team captain.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, he'll he'll be there.

Speaker 1 He'll be there. He better win.

Speaker 5 The World Baseball Classic is going to beat those two Dodger pitchers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, Dodgers,

Speaker 1 Japan also doesn't just have those two Dodgers pitchers. They have the next two of those too as well, pitching there and hitting there.
It's unbelievable the depth they have. So Japan's the best.

Speaker 1 This is who we're.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's going to be us in Japan.

Speaker 3 DRs? They don't have big pitching.

Speaker 4 DRs, their lineup is really good.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 1 They look good.

Speaker 1 DR.

Speaker 1 Even to the casuals. You saw their night one of them.
Yeah. Shot.
Stud.

Speaker 2 Stud.

Speaker 1 Homer. DR.
Stud.

Speaker 1 Homer. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You would know probably seven out of the nine guys.

Speaker 4 We met all those guys down at the All-Star game.

Speaker 1 I'm a big fan of them. They were very cool.

Speaker 1 I will say the Dominican fellas were the most awesome group and the tightest group. Yes.

Speaker 1 And they have the obvious benefit of being able to speak their own language, but then I think they have their own language within their own language.

Speaker 1 And I think everybody wishes they were a part of it. From my understanding of just hanging out at MLB All-Star Game on the bench with the players.

Speaker 1 The Dominican crew was the coolest crew to be a part of. And they were very tight.
Family coming in.

Speaker 1 Talking shit, certainly in Spanish by everybody else.

Speaker 2 Having a good time. Is it the same time as World Cup?

Speaker 1 World Baseball Classic?

Speaker 4 No. It's in

Speaker 4 late February, early March.

Speaker 1 Oh, so it's coming out.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 maybe it starts in the first week of March, but that's why we're, you know, pitchers and catchers usually report in February, and that's why all these guys are... So it'll be pretty quick.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So not not too long after the Super Bowl ends week after the combine yeah

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Speaker 1 He's awesome. That's AJ Hawk.
That was Coach Bruce Arians. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J.
Butler is here alongside 12-year NFL vet Super Bowl champion A.Q. Shipley.

Speaker 1 The The toxic table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Everybody in the background, work today, boys.
Work, boys.

Speaker 1 Now, we're going to wrap this up in beautiful fashion. It's going to be in a fashion of learning more about ball, getting smarter, maybe learning about things that you don't normally hear about.

Speaker 1 It's time to go, AJ, in the trenches with AQ Shipley.

Speaker 1 Top five performing offensive lines coming out of week 16 of the NFL season. AQ, who's number five? Wow.
You guys got to see it up close and personal last night. San Francisco 49ers.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, the Niners. Very good football team, but let's just take note of one of the greatest to ever do it.

Speaker 1 Let's watch Trent Williams, the left tackle, as he climbs, watch him block two linebackers, not one. Now watch him get off that and get the other one.
That's a hold. It looks hard.
Not a hold.

Speaker 1 He just looks like a spider monkey. The way he moves at his size is unbelievable.
But short yardage play. They go 27 zone.
Kyle Yuszchek has no one to block because Trent Williams blocks both guys.

Speaker 1 This was the play afterwards. Trent's in the huddle looking up at that thing.
Makes sense why he was watching. I mean, you should not be able to do that at age 37, let alone the size that he's at.

Speaker 1 What an absolute monster left tackle. It's incredible.
He's the best of this generation, hands down. We talked about it earlier.
11 Pro Bulls. He's been all-pro, I think, three times, but he is.

Speaker 1 He's one of a kind. He's one of a kind.
Hushkach was leading the way there for Christian McCaffrey. Obviously, George Kittle moves body.

Speaker 1 There's the 89, I think, was another one last night, or 88 maybe was one of those. There's so many tight ends moving bodies.
It feels like you have to be, yeah, 89 also. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 So there's just so many people moving bodies last night. You have to be fully committed in this Niners offense, huh? You have to.
And then look at Jawan Jennings.

Speaker 1 Jawan Jennings gets a great block there. He's one of the best, if not the best, blocking receiver in football.

Speaker 1 And I think it's a mentality, it's an attitude, and it's a pre-rec to play football for Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers that everybody has to block. AJ, they kicked our ass last night, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 Congrats to them. Number five offensive line.

Speaker 1 Who's number four performing offensive line in week 16? Wow.

Speaker 1 The Philadelphia Eagles. And we will take notice today.
The five teams in this group, they're all playoff teams. The cream is starting to rise to the crops.
I don't think so. It's week 16.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the cream is starting to rise to the crops. So no more politicking to get on the top five list.
No, no, no politicking.

Speaker 1 The Philadelphia Eagles, back-to-back division champs, they certainly have their own home playoff game. Absolutely.
Saquon had over 100, but they had multiple guys run the football well.

Speaker 1 If we can pause this when the hole opens up, we're going to get a toss play to the left. Look at this thing.

Speaker 1 First of all, the commanders stink on defense, but look at the size of that hole to run through. My man Quinn.

Speaker 1 My man Quinn is sitting here saying he wants to see them again in two weeks because they ran it up a little bit.

Speaker 1 But listen, they do not want to see this team again because Philly's going to beat the brakes off them again because they stink on defense. Big, gaping hole.
Do they have 11 on the field, Debbie?

Speaker 1 I'm just, like, if you pause it

Speaker 1 right here, like, you got two, a couple guys over on the ball.

Speaker 3 A couple guys in a row. I mean, that is, I don't know if I've ever seen that old tape.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. What the hell is going on? Isn't Quinn a defensive guy, AJ? What the hell's going on in Washington?

Speaker 10 I mean, when things go bad, sometimes it kind of continues to go bad. Everyone's trying to get out of the gap and make a play.
It's tough. Defense is tough.

Speaker 1 B.A., is that physicality there from the Philadelphia Eagles going to have them go back-to-back Super Bowl champions? Are they back to who they're supposed to be?

Speaker 5 As long as they can play with the lead, because they are not a comfort-behind team.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're saying a little bit of front-runner situation going on with the Philadelphia Eagles?

Speaker 5 I definitely think so. I just don't love their passing attack when they're behind.

Speaker 1 Okay, if they can keep this thing on the ground, they'll continue to dominate. Their offensive line, top five in the NFL.
Congrats them.

Speaker 1 They were the number one offensive line last year in the trenches with AQ. Obviously, still time to do that.
Number three offensive line. They invested in it in the offseason.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Chicago Bears have been fantastic, and they ran the shit out of the football. I love this group.
They're physical in the cold. They can run it well.
But look at the right side right here.

Speaker 1 Cole Komet. So it starts with him.
Blocking tight end number 85. Watch him arc out.
Boom. Arc out.
Just freezes the DN just a little bit. and then you run old school power.
You get Tooney around.

Speaker 1 You get Colston Loveland. You get the big trade block.
Go back. Look at Darnell Wright, number 58, and that trade block with Benedict getting up to the second level.

Speaker 1 That is December football, as you would say, Bruce Arians, right? Just pound the football, old school power, duo, all that type of stuff. This team is built for that.

Speaker 1 December football, B.A., what's that mean?

Speaker 5 It's time to run the football, but they did a great job of not asking the tight end to block the big defensive end. And that's usually where you fail.

Speaker 5 You You know, a tight end blocking a 290-pound defensive end, that's not a fair fight.

Speaker 1 Ben Johnson, though, has the leverage and sets up his guys to be able to block well, right? That's why any Ben Johnson system is going to have a good offensive line, you would assume.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no question. It's worked smarter, not harder, right? And I think that's the biggest key to the really good offensive lines right now.
But I used to love my man, Coach Arians.

Speaker 1 Whenever we'd go play Seattle, we'd walk in on Wednesday. You know what he would say? It's a tight ends, DNS matchup, boys.
Get ready, buckle up. Love everything about it.

Speaker 1 AJ, Ben Johnson, one year getting a physicality culture, and it was good. It's gotten better.
Might be the best. You know what I mean? He never let it rest.

Speaker 10 I see what you did there. Yeah, with his design, his play design and how they do play, it is going very, very well for them right now.

Speaker 1 Well, and it's only going to get good and better and then best potentially because it's literally just his first year there. Caleb Williams obviously buying into the system more and more each week.

Speaker 1 Is that what you're seeing? He's been fantastic the last couple of weeks. He really is.
And I talked to Clyde Christensen yesterday, great quarterback coach, longtime coach. We all know him.

Speaker 1 He mentioned about the NFC North and the fact that Caleb Williams' arm strength, being able to, as you talked about earlier, cut through the wind on some of these things, it looks like it doesn't affect his balls at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he has a... He's got a cannon.
Yeah, he does. He does, certainly.
Yeah, he does go hose out there.

Speaker 1 Big old hose. He spins it.
Yes, he does. Big, strong hose.
Caleb Williams got big, strong hose.

Speaker 1 And it looks like it looks. Balls are unaffected.
Yes, balls are unaffected by the wind or anything else,

Speaker 1 actually, because he's got that big, strong hose coming out there. And that that ball seems to levitate

Speaker 1 you know and you're just straight across it is he'll have a 25 yard strike and it's just

Speaker 1 might see him later it does come out like a seed big strong yeah big strong hose you shoot the seed out there and it's just

Speaker 1 through the sky yep especially if you can play action suck the guys up then you use that big strong hose and then he delivers a seed yeah and that's what they're doing up there ben johnson also

Speaker 1 he knows how to navigate that big strong hose you know what i mean because he had jared goff with that big hoser.

Speaker 1 And then obviously you move your offense down here. Now you got the little bit of extension, you know, extending a play and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 And, you know, you can really use the full playbook whenever you have that. It's only getting started up there.
So we talk about Drake May and Josh McDaniels just getting started.

Speaker 1 Ben Johnson in Chicago is only getting started. That's crazy to think about.
And when they started their first investment, it were three offensive linemen. And now it's paying off, you're saying.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. I mean, we've talked about this at Nauseum.
They draft Darnell Wright, but then they go get three new guys in the interior of that offensive line. It starts there.

Speaker 1 You build from there, just like Detroit did, and all of a sudden you got a good team. All right, let's go to the number two performing offensive line of week 16 of the NFL season, the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 1 Congratulations to the Bills. Yeah, the Buffalo Bills looked awesome, and I liked what they did against this defense.
You get an up-the-field, penetrating defense.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Miles Garrett wants to rush the passer, so they took advantage of that. They ran a lot of traps, quick hitters, but they also ran some crack tosses.
We used to call this flip-it-eight.

Speaker 1 Watch, send the tight end in motion, fake one way, flip the other, but but you get the fullback out in front. You get Spencer Brown out in front, McGovern out in front.

Speaker 1 Look at big Deion Dawkins just made the Pro Bowl. Congrats, Big Deion out in front, but all the boys buying in, getting downfield, getting blocks.
That's how you get the home run.

Speaker 1 You already, she know with Deion Dawkins. You know, he's up for offensive lineman of the year every single year, makes it another Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 I think the worry is, does Josh Allen have the team around him to be able to win a Super Bowl? If they let James Crow, that offensive line can do it, Jan B.

Speaker 1 A., what are your thoughts on the Buffalo Bills taking a long run?

Speaker 5 Yeah, they got everything except a number one wide receiver.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 5 if somebody can just emerge, I don't care who it is, as somebody to stop, you're not stopping James Cook.

Speaker 1 So they can change the math a little bit.

Speaker 1 You're hoping that somebody can emerge as somebody that might change the math on the defensive side a little bit, maybe have a little bit of attention on somebody on the outside?

Speaker 5 We have to put two over there.

Speaker 5 If you can load the box, if you can corner and shut down their best guy, you're looking at a loaded box all day.

Speaker 3 It won't happen this year.

Speaker 1 year what nobody stepping up keon calling

Speaker 1 one of these weeks yeah calling a healthy scratch with five four

Speaker 1 yeah what does that mean what does that mean

Speaker 1 you're good you're healthy you ain't playing no okay i understand that

Speaker 1 please thank you

Speaker 1 the rudimentary breakdown of what is actually happening on a healthy scratch something missing yeah but what is it because there was uh what something about late and then i think deon dawkins came out and started helping him be a pro and then there's uh he's still around and we're hoping for the best it's like i don't think i fully understand the the situation.

Speaker 1 Did he play last year?

Speaker 2 Yeah, played last year. Actually, he had a great start.

Speaker 1 So, what happened?

Speaker 1 I don't think he played well in that game against the Ravens in week one.

Speaker 2 He played well, started amazing. And I know Bills fans are still pissed because they traded that pick that the Chiefs took Xavier Worthy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know one of them was disciplinary, but I don't think this. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 Nothing came out if it was, but I think this was just what BA said: like, yeah, you're healthy, but not going to help us. So, you know, because 53 on the roster, you only dressed, what, 46?

Speaker 3 So that's always a decision made around game day. So you got to be very disappointed if you're a Buffalo fan.
You drafted him high.

Speaker 3 He didn't spend this offseason with the team, but to Conman's point, he did start off

Speaker 3 this season well. But at this point in the season, this is when you need a guy to be stepping up and changing the math.

Speaker 3 He's a freak athlete. So it's got to be between the ears at this point.

Speaker 4 I mean, you just can't have a situation where a guy you basically drafted in the first round isn't going to help the team win on Sunday.

Speaker 1 We've seen him have a lot of

Speaker 1 exactly. I'm so confused by this entire situation.
Honestly, I'm very confused because I thought we all believed in the Buffalo Bills culture, right?

Speaker 1 We all believe in the way they develop and how they're a team and how the chemistry and all that stuff. We believe in it.
We watch it on hard knocks. And then to see this talent not, I don't know.

Speaker 1 And they're just all kind of like talking around it. It's like, what is it?

Speaker 1 Is he not good anymore? Does he not know the plays? Is he not a good teammate? Is he not around?

Speaker 1 It would be nice to know because to your point, if they do get somebody that can maybe draw a little bit of attention, everything else comes like, let alone the Josh Allen powers he's running all by himself on a Legard box would be nice.

Speaker 2 Well, and King Cade too's been banged up and they drafted him in the first round as if he was going to be a number one as well.

Speaker 2 So like maybe if he gets more healthy and also they paid Khalil Shakir about $65 million.

Speaker 2 So they do have money in the wide receiver room. I guess they just don't have one of the guys.

Speaker 1 Sean McDermott on Keon Coleman being inactive. Just a combination of receivers offensively that we wanted up.

Speaker 1 And then obviously McColl was moved in the five spot there for primarily special teams pursues, but also a little bit of receivers. Well, I mean, we're trying to figure it out up there.

Speaker 1 They got Josh Allen there competing every game, they got an offensive line. They're fucking this guy, man.

Speaker 1 I don't want to say it because I don't want to start any drama, but it certainly sounds like they are very disappointed that that guy's part of their team.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I won't go as far as saying they hate him, but that's a real thing on games when you're not being productive on the offensive, defense side, and you don't produce on special teams.

Speaker 3 I talked about it a few weeks ago. Like, I knew early on in NFL, okay, I'm not going to be a special teams guy.
In my second year, I remember one time I walked in the locker room and I saw my shit.

Speaker 3 I saw a sweatsuit in my locker and my pass not on. And I'm like, what the hell is going on? And boom, Bill called me in.
Hey, you're not going to be up today. So that was a huge wake-up call.

Speaker 3 Like, all right, you better figure out how to impact the game and how to not be replaceable.

Speaker 3 Because every time, if you are that third, fourth, fifth receiver, or corner or something, and you're not producing on special teams, your ass is on that borderline every week.

Speaker 1 Keon Coleman needs to start forcing fair catches. He needs to start forcing some fair catches.

Speaker 1 Put him at Gunner and maybe make it happen. That's a crazy situation.
Hopefully, they're able to figure it all out going forward. And, ladies and gentlemen, wow.
What? This is big. Incredible.
Big.

Speaker 1 The number one offensive line in the NFL for week 16 of the NFL season in the trenches with AQ Shipley is the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Steelers.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Pittsburgh's going to the

Speaker 1 Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I think Philadelphia Eagles, potentially the number one offensive line after week 16 last year, they ended up being the number one offensive line in the entire NFL allseason in the trenches.

Speaker 1 And they also won a Super Bowl because they're offensive line. Is the Pittsburgh Steelers offensive line something that can win games for them over there?

Speaker 1 The interesting thing is they've had some injuries, so they've put the backups in. The backups are playing better than the starters.
So maybe we need to stay with this left tackle.

Speaker 1 Dylan Cook, he's been fantastic since he has stepped in. He's been great.
Spencer Anderson, who's kind of their do-it-all Swiss Army knife, he's big tight end.

Speaker 1 In this particular picture, he's number 74, so he's the big tight end. But he also started the game at left guard.
So anytime they go big package, he moves out to tight end. They bring Andrew Pete in.

Speaker 1 Sometimes he plays fullback. Sometimes he plays tackle in an unbalanced.
I mean, this guy's their Swiss Army do-it-all, but it all starts with the steady guy. That's Zach Frazier, the center.

Speaker 1 Let's take a look at this. It has a great reach block.
Minor. Right there on the nose guard.
Yep, great reach block.

Speaker 1 Front side dylan cook gets enough of them and then jalen warren see you later look at frasier running downfield boys celebrating this is old school pittsburgh football connor haywood was fantastic playing fullback in this game i mean they looked really good and if they can do this

Speaker 1 then that opens up. Aaron doesn't want to throw the ball 40 times a game.

Speaker 1 If Aaron can get a 230-yard rushing day and only have to throw it 15 times, that's what this Pittsburgh Steelers team is doing. Aaron can sell chess.

Speaker 1 Obviously, Dan Relofsky broke this play down where he had DK run the bubble to get the safety out of there so there's nobody filling the gap from over the top.

Speaker 1 Jalen Warren breaks through the first hole, first layer, and then bang, it's off to the races. The Steelers now become an explosive offense through the sky and the ground.

Speaker 1 It's certainly alarming if you're another team in the AFC. Let's go to Hammer.
Todd, Todd. Number one offensive line in the NFL tone.
What an absolute thing, if Fewie.

Speaker 1 That's the first time they've ever been on ever in any position. One through five.

Speaker 1 And now week 16, they're number one Rodgers is commanding the offense everything is coming up black and gold seven's coming home boys it really is how do you genuinely how do you feel about the backups playing better than the starters and do you think the Pittsburgh Steelers will acknowledge that it's a good group right now so so the where the backup situation is happening at is at left tackle and we took project jones years ago uh in the first round and he was always very very highly talented it never came all together there was injuries and stuff like that since broader has been out um there was another injury at left tackle, and then Dylan Cook stepped in.

Speaker 1 And the last two games, he's been unbelievable. So like the left tackle position has really been the backup position.
And him coming in and being great there is a surprise that shocked all.

Speaker 1 It's not like he's a young player. I think he's like 29.

Speaker 1 But him coming in there being awesome. Cia Malu's the left guard who is out this game, but he's the veteran in that lineup.
He's been really good all season.

Speaker 1 And then the three, the center, right guard, right tackle, have been the same all season long. Those are the young studs, either in their first or second year.

Speaker 1 So yeah, that being all together, like them coming together and potentially being the line of the future is really, really good. Tell me about Zach Frazier having to deal with 319,

Speaker 1 the cadences of Aaron, right? Isn't that something that this entire offensive line has to deal with? Well, we talked about it too. Deal with, get to deal with, I guess.

Speaker 1 I'm saying it as a negative thing. It's certainly a positive, though, but it's a lot.
It's cadences. It's switching formations.
It's switching plays and audibles. It's switching mics.

Speaker 1 These quarterbacks, the really good ones, the ones that play it the way it's supposed to be played, are constantly making calls and moving.

Speaker 1 And if it's now all of a sudden, it could be a double cadence, and then all of a sudden you change the thing. Now it goes to the next sound.

Speaker 1 So there's a lot they put on the center in these things, especially with all the moving and changing and shaking that Aaron does. I believe he has Caulflower here, high school wrestler.
Love that.

Speaker 1 Don't doubt it, Frasier.

Speaker 2 One more time, Foxy, sorry, but McCormick and Fautanu or Fotanu, Troy, whatever. What's their celebration after a long run?

Speaker 2 If you watch 76 and 66, once Warren breaks away, they point at each other and they go to do some sort of somersault dance celebration right here.

Speaker 1 We're going to have to find that. We're going to have to find that.

Speaker 1 His fucking ass out of the tie up. Yeah, incredible.
That's a big man doing the roll.

Speaker 1 I like that. I like we're doing body rolls out there.
Go ahead and celebrate, boys.

Speaker 1 It's not easy to do that. And Zach Frazier running down and meeting the ball.
Love everything about it. Congrats to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
They knew it would be the boy.

Speaker 1 They knew what was coming in. Trenches, they cut ship lick top five.
Buffalo Bills, Chicago Bears, Philadelphia Eagles, San Francisco 49ers round up the top five.

Speaker 1 And these are five teams that can certainly go and win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Sorry, I had it off.
I didn't know if it was going to mess up the...

Speaker 1 Just don't do it.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Just don't tell them. You're doing too much.
Tell them, just do the.

Speaker 5 Just do it. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Just leave it off. Sorry.
That's exactly. You just had it on.
Just leave it off. We don't need you to be doing the extra stuff.
Okay, we'll figure it out. Look, you got Nick in the back.

Speaker 1 Look at this guy. He's had a rough day already.
Sorry, Nick. There's enough microphones in his head.
I'm leaving it on. All right, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 1 Just earlier.

Speaker 1 I heard it. That guy.
Yeah, but then we've had to turn it back on. That's top five offensive lines.

Speaker 1 AJ, any takeaways about the Pittsburgh Steelers being number one or any of the other teams you saw up there, A.J. Hawk?

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, I think the Pittsburgh definitely deserved it. There's a lot of meat on the field there, right there.
That last clip you showed with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 10 You got to have a heavy package defensively to try to match all that meat they put out there.

Speaker 1 Has Mike Tomlin and Artie Smith changed anything anything to make the offensive line's life easier, or is this just kind of have they been cooking for this moment?

Speaker 1 No, they've been cooking and they also went a little bit more smash mouth. They used Connor Hayward Hayward as fullback in a lot of the packages.

Speaker 1 And then the other thing that I really liked what I saw was the Jonus Smith, Kenneth Gainwell package that they do. It's pretty cool.
Jonus Smith scores on the touchdown last week.

Speaker 1 This week, they run the toss to him. They move Gainwell out.
They run the jet motion to Gainwell. Then they run the flip back to Jonus Smith.

Speaker 1 So they got a whole package out of that with tight end in the backfield, Gainwell out wide. Then they're motioning in, like I said, Hayward as the fullback.
So they are doing a lot of other stuff.

Speaker 1 What the fuck are you doing, Aaron, talking to Jonu Smith as he's in motion behind him? It feels like they're all on the same page and all bought in. And you talk about somersaults.

Speaker 1 They're certainly doing that in Pittsburgh after long-ass runs.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Athleticism at an all-time high. Obviously from the big boys.
Congrats to the Pittsburgh Steelers. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's go to the other side of the ball.

Speaker 1 Let's go to the defensive side. Let's go, everything DB.
Good D, bad D with Darius J. Butler.

Speaker 3 We absolutely do, starting with Derek Stingley, the best cornerback in the National Football League. Also, was all everything DB last year.
And this is actually his first pick six in his NFL career.

Speaker 3 First touchdown since high school. And also the only cornerback right now, three seasons in a row with fourth plus interceptions.
This was his fourth.

Speaker 3 Terrible throw, terrible decision by Geno Smith for sure, but great instinct and awareness

Speaker 3 by Derek Stingley coming off the receiver, making the pick, getting up off the ground, and taking it back to the paint.

Speaker 1 How old are you, B.A.?

Speaker 1 73. How old is Pete Carroll?

Speaker 5 74, I believe.

Speaker 1 Okay, so he gets a head coaching job. Obviously, it's for a limited amount of time because he's 74 years old, but he is assigned with the task of making this new era of the Raiders go.

Speaker 1 It is not gone well. Obviously, nothing really great to point out other than Max Crosby, and they kept it close against Houston Texans late

Speaker 1 in the season. Brock Bowers can be a guy.
What are your thoughts on the Raiders as a whole and Pete Carroll as a 74-year-old head coach? Well, Pete,

Speaker 5 mentally, he's 55. He's got all that energy.

Speaker 5 His age has nothing to do with how he's coaching because he is a live wire practice every day. He's tackling guys, and that's just him.

Speaker 5 I think...

Speaker 5 The staff he put together last year, they did it so quickly. I think he's looking to rearrange a whole lot of guys on that staff.

Speaker 1 So we think Pete is going to be back with the Raiders next year?

Speaker 5 I think so.

Speaker 5 I don't see the Raiders firing him in one year.

Speaker 1 Wow. That'd be fascinating if Pete Carroll gets the leeway because he's Pete Carroll to go to another year and then just have to.

Speaker 1 He's disgusted by it. He wants him gone right now.

Speaker 1 Whatever.

Speaker 1 He is disgusted by it. Big Raiders.

Speaker 2 He's sick of this O-line as well.

Speaker 2 I get all that if Liam Cohen didn't throw his entire staff together about a month after everybody was hired in Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 And like the other thing is, too, if Pete Carroll, yeah, he might act like he's 55, but they fucking suck. Watching the Raiders is a nightmare.

Speaker 2 Like, even when they pop up, because they're at a 425 game this week, so there's only four games. So you're going to watch them.
The Texans are playing, too. Everything they do is miserable.

Speaker 2 And granted, they scored 21 points, but it felt like kind of the

Speaker 1 good. Yeah, I forgot about Gentie.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're not interested in saying that, but it felt like the

Speaker 2 Oregon JMU game. And I shouldn't feel that way watching an NFL game at any point.

Speaker 1 Well, Pete Carroll might get another year, maybe reload with a whole new staff and restart at 74, but it does feel like they have some pieces over there.

Speaker 1 You know, you get a quarterback, get some offensive linemen, you're able to go ahead and maybe win some games. But until then, we got to watch you guys beat ass.

Speaker 1 And Max Crosby, Brock Bowers, Ashton Genty, we appreciate you guys holding it down.

Speaker 1 Would be cool whenever 50 fucking million people are watching these games you guys are playing, but it doesn't seem like you're anywhere near that right now. Maybe next year.

Speaker 4 Yeah, please don't give Pete Carroll another year because

Speaker 4 they might get the first pick. You know, they're going to draft the quarterback.
Hey, Pete, give it another go. Okay, so this quarterback's going to learn that offense.

Speaker 4 All those guys are going to get shit canned. And then just what? I mean, we've seen...

Speaker 4 Mendoza doesn't need. I mean, he could do it.

Speaker 2 He's certainly a guy who could do it.

Speaker 4 He doesn't need to be learning two offenses in two years.

Speaker 1 Fernando's the guy? Yeah, so I think so too.

Speaker 2 He's definitely Brady's guy. 6'5? He's 6'5.

Speaker 4 I mean, I go back. I saw it about 100 times this weekend against Iowa.
They're down at Kinnick.

Speaker 4 He gets hit so hard right in the fucking mouth and just delivers the biggest seed that goes for an 80-yard touchdown. It's just like.
And then Ohio State.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. He gets all the first play of the game.

Speaker 4 Very intelligent from when he's been on the show with us.

Speaker 1 Seems like he's prototype.

Speaker 4 I think so.

Speaker 1 He's going to do very well in the the interviews it does yeah he's gonna win it over yeah is he gonna go to a place that's gonna fucking ruin him i hope not i hope not he's gonna go to a shitty team that's for sure whoa whoa whoa whoa

Speaker 1 well unless there's some teams that have a lot of picks that maybe aren't so might be trading up yeah yeah there might be some action flip it quick yeah hey pittsburgh steelers got a lot of assets next uh draft tone

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know if they have enough to move up to get Mendoza, though, unfortunately. In Pittsburgh, the draft.
you know, the Jets have a bunch of pieces, right?

Speaker 1 Don't the Jets have a shit ton of pieces? So, even if they don't have the number one pick, everybody's like, well, they're certainly going to be in the ballpark for it.

Speaker 1 Feels like next year's draft is going to have a lot of action. A lot of action because there's

Speaker 1 a lot of people that have accrued a lot of pieces.

Speaker 2 And that's why Giants, Raiders this weekend is such a massive game. Because, like, hey, let's say the Raiders do win.

Speaker 2 All of a sudden, now, the Giants, who are, by all accounts, not a quarterback-needy team, they will be for sale. And the highest bidder who has the most assets would be the Jets at that fourth seed.

Speaker 1 That's really cool that the Colts just gave ours to the Jets there at the 18th. And next year's as well.

Speaker 3 18th? Have we ever had a team take a quarterback in the first round, back-to-back years?

Speaker 2 Yes, Josh Rosen and Kyler. Kyler.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it sure was. Wow.
Okay.

Speaker 3 I know BA had the Giants going to playoffs next year, but I don't know how sold I am with Jackson Dart. What?

Speaker 2 I don't know. What do you mean, dude?

Speaker 4 He was seven of 13 for 33 yards.

Speaker 1 That was a giant man back there. That was crazy scott.

Speaker 3 No, I'm just saying, yeah, it was a crazy, crazy game.

Speaker 4 He had only thrown it six times in the first three quarters.

Speaker 1 So if we aren't going to let him play, why play him? If we're just tagging, throw Jameis out there. What's the point of having him back there if you're not going to let him throw or run?

Speaker 1 He needs reps. He needs to get experience.
That's the purpose of this rookie season. And he's got to drop back against Flores' defense.
Who's calling him? He's getting it all. He did 13 times.

Speaker 1 Kafka, right?

Speaker 2 Who's calling plays right now? I genuinely got in my head. I have no idea.

Speaker 1 Fun game. It's Kafka.
Fun game. It is Kafka.
His name's up for things. Fun game.
Who's the interim head coach of the Tennessee Titans?

Speaker 2 He just brought his entire family to meet Andy Reid.

Speaker 1 McCoy. There it is.
Did you know that before he brought his family to go meet Andy Reid? We'll never know.

Speaker 1 I literally,

Speaker 1 a Sunday morning, I guess it would have been the middle of the game. As I see the Titans take the lead on the Chiefs, I think to myself, I couldn't even tell you who the fucking interim headache.

Speaker 1 I actually thought that to myself. I'm like, we talk about it every day.

Speaker 1 And I don't think right now I could tell you who's the acting head coach of the Tennessee Titans and they're beating the Chiefs. And then immediately afterwards, turns out it's Coach Mike McCoy.

Speaker 1 His entire family trying to, he's saying the same damn thing. Hey, Andy, these are my whole fucking family here.
I can't believe this. It's like the Titans being able to get a win.

Speaker 1 That just shows you the NFL.

Speaker 1 We didn't even really know who. And Mike McCoy, I want to let you know.
I apologize for that. But you guys have just been out of the conversation completely.
So long. So long.
And it's not fun.

Speaker 1 Cam Ward's an exciting player we assume he's going to be good but they're they're a restart operation down there it's like what are they going to do that's nothing that gives you hope though like same as will anderson saying genti's a guy like jeffrey simmons saying like i want to stay here because cam ward's so damn jeffrey simmons has been so good there for so long so god yeah but i mean even with cam and what's going on there drake may shitty rookie year turnaround caleb williams not a terrible rookie year but team-wise turnaround uh who's the other one a third one this year.

Speaker 3 Second year quarterback, new head coach.

Speaker 3 It'll come to me. But so sometimes, shitty first year, new regime maybe comes in,

Speaker 3 makes some good hires on the offensive or defensive side of the ball. If it's an offensive head coach like Ben Johnson hired Dennis Allen in the flip side with Vrabel hiring, Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 1 Price Young's in his second year with Canalis.

Speaker 2 Trevor would be the one that's

Speaker 1 both.

Speaker 3 So not as obviously further on his career, but had a shitty, what, three, four years, and then Liam comes over. You hire Pinelli on the defensive side.
They're playing much better.

Speaker 3 Trevor Lawrence looked like a completely new quarterback, the quarterback we all thought he would be. So Fuchsia could still be potentially brighter Tennessee.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Bo Nick's second year with Sean Payton. I think he looked good towards the end of the first year as well.
So I don't think anybody's saying complete ass of a season.

Speaker 1 I saw Cam Wood make some throws.

Speaker 1 He's eyes against courts. It's like, certainly has the talent.
Will they ever be able to figure it out? Let's go to some more good D and everything DB.

Speaker 3 Absolutely. A team that has been able to figure it out.
Kind of flying under the radar, 11-4 now. The Los Angeles Chargers.
You got Derwin James, another all-everything DB guy.

Speaker 3 Now, at this point, 34-17 backup quarterbacks in the game. It's kind of garbage time.
You think you got to give up? I think Cowboys took a bunch of their starters out.

Speaker 3 Chargers still have their starters in. This is why this guy is who he is.
Still playing. Like, this is a two-minute drive with the game on the line, hustling his ass off.

Speaker 3 Great hustle, great punch out. Give me that shit.
Now the game is really over. Pack this shit up.
Great job hustling.

Speaker 3 Great job just being that guy who you mentioned, Max Crosby earlier, even though he's on a shitty team, this guy, every down, he's going to set the tempo and set the standard for that defense and that team as a whole.

Speaker 1 That's a great peanut punch, BA.

Speaker 5 The thing, peanut started a revolution. I mean, everybody's doing it now, and it's something special.

Speaker 2 I mean, some people would argue it started with Chuck Pagano.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 don't put Chuck Pagano in that spot. Peanut Pagano? Pagano punch? Well, see, the NFL put Chuck Pagano in a bad spot.
Hey, listen, we know you're all trying to do the punch out.

Speaker 1 Let's make sure we follow the rules. Chuck Pagan, you make a video for these people.

Speaker 1 Hey, listen, when you're doing the punch, okay, we all want to do it, Bob, weave and do it, bang, but this is the best technique that's legal. Boom.
Then that gets sent out to all the NFL teams.

Speaker 1 All you need is one player to be there. This guy thinks he's fucking peanut kill me.

Speaker 1 And then boom, the pegano punch. All of a sudden, Chuck loves ball, loves peanut, loves everything about that, is getting murdered for thinking that he created the punch out.
I never said that.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ, boys. No, no.
Nothing but respect for peanuts. I'm just trying to tell the rules.

Speaker 1 When you're talking about an evolution or revolution, it has certainly become a great way to cause a turnover. And guys work it.

Speaker 1 Derwin definitely works it because having precision punching is certainly a benefit in this particular fast.

Speaker 1 Because if you miss, you're talking about maybe breaking your knuckles or an elbow or something like that. I mean, it's very dangerous.

Speaker 1 It could be very dangerous, but it's also lethal if you can connect.

Speaker 3 And it's game changing. You know, defenses at this point, I mean, yards are one thing, but who cares about giving a a bunch of yards?

Speaker 3 If you can keep guys out of the end zone and create turnovers, giving your offenses, now this game was over, but giving your offenses extra possessions and a lot of times in favorable positions.

Speaker 3 Like this is an offense now. They'll set up on the plus side of the 50 based on what their defense did.
And yeah, it's definitely a revolution with this peanut punch.

Speaker 3 We see it every game, on every level of football now. We saw it in the UM game.
We saw it last night. We had a kick return early in the game.
Was it Abdullah?

Speaker 3 That came across the middle field and the opposite side. Boom, punched that thing out.

Speaker 3 Every defense, you saw it when we were playing, every defense is going to be punching, running back, jogging back to the huddle and practicing training camp. You're going to be punching it out.

Speaker 3 So you practice it, you rep it, and always pick the football up on the ground.

Speaker 1 And also, Bazooka Joe, you're in an actual football game. He's dick around his helmet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're in an actual football. There's a chance your helmet's not going to be perfect.

Speaker 1 You got Derwin James

Speaker 1 running around on the field. Let's make sure we're not worried about the damn helmet.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 Derwin James is somewhere near me, okay, Bazooka Joe. Bazooka Joe.
I mean, we we love Joe Milton, okay? We're big fans of what he can do. He can do a standing backflip, I think.

Speaker 1 He could throw the ball 80 yards.

Speaker 1 He obviously has an incredible talent, everything like that. But I can't be watching you fix your fucking helmet in the middle of an actual football game.

Speaker 1 Okay, it looks like you think it's spring practice. Joe.
Joe, and also tighten that thing up. Buckle up, yeah.
Tighten that thing up. And you know what?

Speaker 1 Maybe he needs a guardian if his fucking helmet's able to come off at ease. You're right.

Speaker 2 You're right. Patriots also want a game on the peanut button.

Speaker 5 You know, I got a little problem with that football. All the chicken shit guys that punch and don't want to tackle.

Speaker 5 If you're punching and making a tackle, that's peanut. This punch, there he goes for a touchdown.
I tried to punch it out, coach. Make the fucking tackle.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 We need both. We need both, is what you're saying.
I understand.

Speaker 3 It used to be, if you were like the second or third guy, and AJ would probably speak to it. Hey, the first guy, get in there, wrap them up.
Second, third guy, you come in to punch.

Speaker 3 Now, you can be one-on-one open field. And this guy's, to your point, just going straight, straight punch.
And as a defender going for that ball,

Speaker 3 those tacklers, I mean, those, those backs, those tight ends, like, they're just going.

Speaker 3 So it's going to make the tackle easier nine times out of ten when you're going for it, because Rayleigh's a guy just going to joke.

Speaker 3 You see, the most scary runner probably ever in history, Derrick Henry, you go for that ball. I don't care how big and strong you are.

Speaker 3 That's the program right there. So you tackle that football in a good spot.

Speaker 1 AJ, were you a big punch outer?

Speaker 10 I wish I was more.

Speaker 10 I wish I emphasized it more because it's like taken off over the last 10, 12 years, I guess, like to where first guy in is going, you got to secure the tackle, of course, but yeah, they're giving a good hard punch.

Speaker 10 Like it was more emphasized when I was playing as like second guy in, third guy in, always you guys come in there and punch and rip at that ball, but it's, it has changed the game. It truly has.

Speaker 10 I think runners too, like it slows them down as well.

Speaker 10 On the perimeter outside, they know if you have any awareness, you got, if you've ever had a ball punched out, it will definitely slow you down in traffic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little PTSD scary situation watching that thing. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 That's everybody's livelihoods just kind of bouncing out of my hand. I was entrusted with this ball and it it is gone.
And, you know, I like the conversation about it turning into a business decision.

Speaker 1 Used to play pickup basketball at Boys Park, and if there was a bigger, much more athletic guy that was older than me playing, I'm doing the reach-round punch, trying to get him when he's true.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Not actually playing defense.
Starting fast breaks. Yeah, just doing the one of those.

Speaker 10 Then Carrie picked it down the other way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and telling everybody, like, I tried, I thought I was going to get it out. Who's out? Where's out? Yeah, that's on me.
I thought I was going to get it out.

Speaker 1 And every once in a while, you will make a connection there. Oh, you're a hero.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's go with that. Now we're going back the other way.

Speaker 1 So against philadelphia against philadelphia we had kickoff guy big return he runs i end up in pitch position trail i try to do the basketball punch out i don't think i got contact ball came out wow ball came out goes out of bounds okay so obviously nobody gets it but i remember thinking to myself boys park

Speaker 1 i did it i just got this guy could you imagine i don't think it was like when i killed that buck and i didn't shoot i had a heart attack there was no entry wound it's like that punch out i think was similar like i don't think i

Speaker 1 he cost a win. I've never felt a win.

Speaker 1 The idea of it.

Speaker 10 Yeah, the idea of it just knocked it out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in my brain, I'm like, this is what I'm trying to do. And then for some reason, the ball bells out, but I do remember that.
And nobody complimented me, man. It was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 I was so bummed out. I'm like, I got the fucking ball.

Speaker 10 Still a cause fumble, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I went out of bounds.

Speaker 1 They get the ball to 50, obviously, if I'm making a play. So that's not good.

Speaker 1 But if I was on defense and there's fucking Derrick Henry running at me, ball's a program.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 somebody get a backpack. I'll backpack the shit out of Derrick Henry there.
Yeah, right. His knees.
I don't like watching him fumble. I tweeted this the other day.
Feels weird.

Speaker 1 Feels weird watching Derrick Henry fumble. It's been an issue.
It's not supposed to happen. Like, it's not supposed to, it's Derrick Henry.
He's a superhero. Like, that is actually what it is.

Speaker 1 So every time you see, like, a superhero like crack, it's like, I don't like, that's not my childhood. Like, that, that's literally what I think every time I see it come out.

Speaker 5 His fumble the other night, he had it high and tight. Everything you teach a ball carrier, it's high and tight.
First guy comes in, second guy catches the ball right Boom.

Speaker 1 And it goes. Demoralizing.

Speaker 1 They said Derrick Henry's shaking his head on the bench the whole time. It's like, I don't want to see Derrick Henry shaking his head.
This guy's a fucking superhero.

Speaker 1 He did everything you're supposed to do.

Speaker 5 He had a nice high and tight.

Speaker 2 Outside.

Speaker 2 Not everything.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what I'm fucking with.

Speaker 4 Over the last year and a half, too, it's went from like, holy shit, he fumbled like, oh, man, Derrick Henry fumbled again in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 Like, that's kind of like where it's going because it's happened multiple times now.

Speaker 1 You're right, Derek. We still remember Turbo, man.

Speaker 2 On the next year, Derek.

Speaker 1 I still remember turbo man anymore good day or we're getting back on christmas he was on christmas today he was uh nobody but wanted to believe long time ago oh sorry you did he got it right he did

Speaker 3 i think it was the only one i got right new school dude that's right but yeah we got speaking of new school dudes liam cohen got his defense and this team rolling jacksonville jaguars you talk about a full circle moment we saw jerry jones on the sideline with the unbelievable hurdle we know what happened with saquan last year and this was shortly after kind of a he played it like a a two-man in some type of zone.

Speaker 3 I would assume like a match back side. So you play it underneath.
You got the safety over the top. And then Bo Nicks, I don't know why he made this throw to Pat Bryant.

Speaker 3 Maybe expect the big receiver to go up and be physical, but great job by Jarian Jones going up, finishing his play, being in position, and like, oh, shit, he's actually throwing this ball, going up, snagging that thing.

Speaker 1 He's the one that jumped over, buddy. Yeah.
And also got jumped over. Yeah.
Jerry Jones is putting together one of the greatest highlights in the history of the NFL. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 If he can keep getting picks and keep making big time plays, I mean, they're going to talk about Hall of Fame stuff. Like, look, what this guy's been a part of.
Look at these moments.

Speaker 1 That sideline leap, AJ. I mean, we've seen people blow out their knees.
Instead, he's jumping over dudes and then getting a pick later. What a day for him up there in Mile High.

Speaker 10 Yeah, awesome. If you notice, it's fourth and two on that, too.
So he widens the receiver and then bam, gets his eyes turned around because he knows that ball is probably coming out.

Speaker 10 But yeah, not many people can just standing in the moment, just jump over another professional athlete, you know, screaming at him 100 miles an hour.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it wasn't like it, I mean, that's four and a half, five feet there. I think you got to clear balls, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think so. You're going to be just from a standstill.

Speaker 1 That's absurd. Yeah.
Jarian Jones is doing it. The Paison running the defense for Jacksonville got a lot of

Speaker 1 money. Trevor Lawrence is obviously playing his best ball.
Oh, yeah. Are the Jags real?

Speaker 5 Yes, indeed.

Speaker 1 You like them.

Speaker 5 I've never seen the look on Trevor Lawrence's face.

Speaker 1 He's got it now.

Speaker 5 Liam has done a great, great job with that offense. And defensively,

Speaker 5 they're playing balls out.

Speaker 2 That's why these matchups are so fascinating. If it's Jags, Bills, how can you pick either side?

Speaker 1 One's got Josh Allen is what you immediately see. Exactly.
But then it's like, well, have you watched Trevor, though? They got 14 touchdowns, zero turnovers over the last four games.

Speaker 1 It's like he's rushing and throwing all over the place. Ball's in a good spot.
One last good D, I do believe.

Speaker 3 Absolutely. Ransom.
Talk about a full circle moment.

Speaker 3 This is a big time game ceiling interception.

Speaker 3 And if you remember, last week against the Saints in a huge game, huge moment, he gets the penalty on the quarterback and makes the field goal much shorter. And now it's the flip side of it.

Speaker 3 Make a big time play against Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans. Mike Evans, Baker on the wrong page, scramble drill.
Evans goes right.

Speaker 3 Lantham goes left and makes a big time interception. Great job for the young player.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Baker and Mike Evans, this zigzag situation, BA?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, Mike, I think Mike's expecting Baker to roll back right. So he's going to retrace and go back to the right.
Baker, I think Baker loses sight right here when he ducks and game over.

Speaker 1 I got the Panthers running the NFC South. Bruce is palming.
I got the Panthers running the NFC South, don't be a. Yes, they are.

Speaker 5 But they've got to play again.

Speaker 5 And the Panthers got to play the Seahawks.

Speaker 5 We've got to beat the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 What was that? What are you saying? What are you saying?

Speaker 5 I think it'll be tied when we go into

Speaker 5 week 18.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't even think it matters. I think if either way, it's week 18.
Like next week is kind of just like, hey.

Speaker 1 Steelers. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Week 18 is for the division.

Speaker 1 Where's it at? Where's the game at?

Speaker 2 It is at Tampa.

Speaker 1 Down there

Speaker 1 in that pirate ship.

Speaker 2 Can now go as home.

Speaker 1 You guys still doing the pirate ship?

Speaker 5 He only lived there six months, bro. Hey, home.

Speaker 1 Good house, though, I see. Yeah.
You guys had a good time down there.

Speaker 1 Is the pirate ship still down there shooting off cannons or something?

Speaker 5 It is awesome. Yeah.
I had my grandsons on it a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 1 How is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers fanbase?

Speaker 5 You talk about, there's a great on on Amazon Prime right now, 50 Years of the Bucks. Raise the Flags.

Speaker 5 It's a great documentary going back to those shitty years I forgot about when we did the quiz and all the way to Doug Williams, then Cobra House, not wanting to pay Doug Williams $200,000.

Speaker 5 Doug left, and then there was a Doug Williams curse for all those years.

Speaker 1 Oh, I know.

Speaker 5 It's a great documentary. Trent Cooper did a hell of a job.

Speaker 1 It's on Amazon Prime, what's it called? Raise the Flags. Raise the Flags.
50 Years of Bucks football?

Speaker 5 10, 10 episodes.

Speaker 1 All right. Can't wait to watch it.
You're a part of it? The last 8, 9, 10, maybe? Yeah.

Speaker 1 10 episodes? You're a part of the last 8, 9, 10? Yeah, I think so. Okay.
So you're a part of the whole season?

Speaker 5 Well, you went through John McKay and Tony Dungeon, all the way up to me.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're saying episodes.

Speaker 1 Not eight, nine, or ten episodes. You got it.
Okay, that was miscommunication on our side. We got to get on the same page.
That's on me, not on you.

Speaker 1 So you're in episodes eight, nine, and ten, whenever we're raising the flags. Yes.

Speaker 2 Good for you, B.A. I thought that was an ode to Allstott.
I was like, wow, good for you.

Speaker 1 I love that Allstot's going to be there, too. I apologize.

Speaker 1 We got some bad deals. Yeah, we've got a couple players.
Guess who's back? Bad deal, man.

Speaker 3 I hate to see it. It's been historically bad this year.
I think top five in all the wrong categories for Flus's defense. Now, you got Lag coming over in motion.
You got cover two.

Speaker 3 Running back to the very beginning, Foxy. So starts with a pre-snap, the sky showing single high, and then rotating post-snap to cover two.
Now, this deep safety is going to be in the bond.

Speaker 3 The left deep safety down here near the hat is going to be in the bond because he has number two streaming right at him, vertical. And then you got lad who's outside number one.

Speaker 3 And Trevon Diggs, he's a flat defender, kind of carrying that vertical. So it looks like he's just getting beat around by.
But he's really an underneath the fender.

Speaker 3 He's kind of in the position he should be in. But just a great play design, great execution by the Chargers, and just bad positioning by the Cowboys with that late disguise.

Speaker 1 They're ass. I don't like it.
Okay, Thou's Cowboys once again disappoints.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 is trevont diggs maybe still concussed from uh mounting that tv on his own because that's why he missed a bunch of times that's what he said that's what he said

Speaker 1 sometimes when you're trying to put it on uh on the the thing

Speaker 3 it's hard to get it up i agree to get the latch or it'd be on on the on the ceiling have you mounted your tv like that on a ceiling

Speaker 4 it looked like he needed to mount his tv straight into like the support beams of his house i don't know if it was like a 55 000 pound tv or what but it was an odd place to mount it so i could see if that thing hit him in the head while you would miss four or five significant times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially if it catches you with the edge. Exactly.

Speaker 3 Because then it's a little bit of a sting on the was he concussed by the TV.

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially that was a report, yeah. And we're pulling for him and the TV, I guess.
We don't know what happened to the TV.

Speaker 4 The TV looked very expensive, so TV looked okay.

Speaker 1 Some of you want to know, says Jane Slater, how Trevon Diggs got concussed. It was never that crazy, but the lack of answers made it sound like it was.
It certainly was crazy.

Speaker 1 He says a TV he was trying to install from the ceiling with a pole mount fell on his head. So I was was trying to be a handyman.

Speaker 1 He didn't think it was a big deal and didn't need to be addressed, but speculation on the internet won't wait too far. He said he had some good plays today, but was still adjusting the game speed.

Speaker 1 On if he thought this may be his last game at AT ⁇ T, yeah. He says he wants to be here, but said they will discuss his future at the end of the season on the McConkie TV, cover two, cover two.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm supposed to have a little bit of help here, okay? Help a little bit of respect. Also, on that note, Jane, it is pretty crazy that a TV is knocking out a starting corner for us Cowboys.

Speaker 1 You know, I appreciate him saying I could do this myself, though. I don't want to fucking pay somebody a couple hundred bucks.
They're going to rob me to do this. This is an easy job.

Speaker 1 Do you appreciate that? I do. I like him looking in the mirror and saying, You can fucking put this TV up.
We don't need to waste any money paying somebody. And he goes and does it.

Speaker 1 Now, on that note, was that thing ever going to be flat? Never. No.
Was that thing ever going to be properly in there? Absolutely not. Didn't he look for the stud before? Hey,

Speaker 1 they do any of that. We don't know.
Okay. He was trying to be a handyman.
Probably watch some YouTube videos. What they don't show you in YouTube is that fucking gravity works.

Speaker 1 Gravity is still doing its thing. There it is.
Yeah, it's. I appreciate him trying to be a handyman.
Oh. and

Speaker 1 geez. Yeah, I mean, it's what happens.

Speaker 4 I mean, we're not talking just your run-of-the-mill 55-inch TV that he certainly could put up. I mean, this thing is fucking 200 inches.

Speaker 3 What is he thinking he was going to do on his own?

Speaker 1 Shout out, Batana. Yeah.
Yeah, not a bad movie. Obviously, need to see it, especially this time of year, on the biggest screen you can get.
But

Speaker 1 first, boy. People always say, like, hey, when you get rich, you get lazy, you get weak, and then people take advantage of you.
And Trayvon Diggs is like, I can fucking put this up. Look,

Speaker 1 couple of these, couple of those.

Speaker 1 You just need to make sure you find a startup, Bertrand. I think that's probably the issue.
That thing might have been on somewhere else. And

Speaker 1 how's it look?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Geek squad in here. You're on thumbtack.
I mean, come on, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and listen, Trevon, you can act like you're a part of it. You can look at them while they're doing it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, or like move it, move it to a little bit.

Speaker 10 Okay, that's good.

Speaker 3 Start finder. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Be the foreman. Yeah, and then even download the

Speaker 1 laser balance on your phone so you can act like you're actually doing something. That looks like it's a little bit off, don't you think?

Speaker 1 Certainly do that. You've earned that, dude.
Way to go. With all your football abilities, you have earned the right to watch another motherfucker hang your TV.
That is way too big. So big.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, man. We're proud of you for that.
Glad he's back out there. Glad he's back out there.
Now, people are saying, is he actually out there?

Speaker 1 Is he still in Bad Santa? We're not 100% sure. We have to see him play great football again, and it looks like we're about to see some more bad football.

Speaker 3 Depends on how you look at it. Depends on who you're a fan of.

Speaker 1 Great football.

Speaker 3 Some great offense here.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Overtime here, 16, 16.

Speaker 1 Halfly, I didn't know Halfley's team was showing up. Don't do that.
It ain't his fucking fault. I didn't know Halfley was showing up on Bad Santa.

Speaker 4 Fucking 16 to 3 with five minutes left in the goddamn game. The Packers defense was phenomenal all night long.
Now, I mean, he's good offense. Ben Johnson, he's a bell ball for a reason.

Speaker 1 Is this everything DB, good D, bad? D? What is this reason?

Speaker 3 This is bad, D.

Speaker 1 Just pick on the Packers because they lost the heartbreaker.

Speaker 3 This is first and 10 in the alumni section. And I love this from Ben Johnson and Caleb just going for the absolute juggler, just like B.A.
did a Merry Christmas early in the game.

Speaker 3 But this is late in the game, last play. DJ Moore all the way across the field.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable catch.

Speaker 3 I mean, pretty damn good coverage. We had Patrick Sertan on here last week, who was quarters coverage, outside leverage.

Speaker 3 I believe this is, if you run it back, I believe this is quarters coverage, too. The safeties are just very aggressive in a run game.
13 personnel. Everything looks like a run.
Good play action.

Speaker 3 Caleb Williams, aka Iceman. And then you step up in the pocket and make an unbelievable throw.
And this type of weather, weather wasn't terrible, but you're in Chicago in December.

Speaker 3 It's a big time throw. Damn near 60 yards in the air.
And DJ Moore, unbelievable concentration. Great catch with Nixon all over.

Speaker 1 How would you describe Caleb Williams' arm?

Speaker 1 Elite. Okay, elite.
I don't know if you you want to say big old hose. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I say big arm.

Speaker 3 He has a big hose. I say a big arm for sure.
I would say.

Speaker 10 What do they call a big arm?

Speaker 4 A big fat hose.

Speaker 3 I definitely would not say that. I would say generational arm talent.

Speaker 1 Generational hose. Generational.

Speaker 1 Look out talent. Move over, Sins.

Speaker 3 It wants to get a great play coffee. You run it back to the beginning against quarters coverage.
You got both safeties kind of involved in the run game, so they're tight. And even with

Speaker 3 when Nixon had the interception last time, these teams kind of shit always comes back full circle. Cornerback, obviously, he's on the opposite side of it.

Speaker 3 Now, they kind of blew that coverage, and Keyshawn just kind of fell into the right place and made a great play. This was a great job by him, but sometimes it just happens like that.

Speaker 3 Nixon's been tough for him, but it's been great for the Iceman and DJ Moore over there.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. The Packers are now on bad D.
What does the future look like? Who knows? A couple injuries, couple lost games. Everything starts going sideways.

Speaker 1 Hey, that's life in sports entrance or shame.

Speaker 1 Well said, Mary.

Speaker 4 Well said.

Speaker 1 I hadn't thought of that, but you're right. It is.
That is what it's like.

Speaker 1 Coach BA, we appreciate you, brother. Maybe BA.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Well, good job, boys.

Speaker 1 Completely defeated in Mary

Speaker 1 Quizman.

Speaker 1 I gave him my all. He did get second place.
That's a good call, AJ. It's a very positive way to look at it.
First place, though, obviously, Coach BA.

Speaker 1 Not your NFF vet, Darius J. Buckley.

Speaker 1 Merry Christmas, everybody. Save travels to the boys.

Speaker 1 I believe we're back tomorrow, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thought so. I was hoping everybody thought that.
Yep. Because in my head, we were definitely doing a show tomorrow.

Speaker 1 But I didn't know what I had told you guys weeks ago, whether or not we were doing a show or not. So I didn't know there in the moment.
In my head, we got a show tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Then if you guys would have said,

Speaker 1 I would have been like, but instead, you're going to run bowl games or something because that is the time of year we're in. Yes.
Like New Year's Eve, for instance.

Speaker 1 Obviously, there's a bunch of games, so we will not be live. We will be traveling, traveling, I do believe, at that exact time, because I think Iowa is actually playing on New Year's Eve at noon.

Speaker 1 New Year's Day is Rose Bowl Day, College Game Day Day. We'll be there for a field pass for Indiana and Alabama.
So, you know, Christmas will be off. I believe

Speaker 1 Boxing Day will be off as well because there's a lot of things on TV. So, hopefully, everybody enjoys their lives.
But tomorrow, we'll be back with Christmas Eve. We'll have a couple,

Speaker 1 we'll say, spirited segments tomorrow. You know,

Speaker 1 about who is Sam's favorite helper this year.

Speaker 1 Who's on an audience list? Who's on a nice list in the sports world? You know, we got to break that all down as we celebrate Jesus Christ being born over here in Nazareth in a barn. That's right.

Speaker 1 Well, sin. To a lady.
Mary.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 4 Big Joe.

Speaker 1 Big Joe.

Speaker 1 Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.
We're in this thing together.

Speaker 10 We don't have to go to church now.

Speaker 1 Wednesday night, I heard it's a big one. It is.
Midnight Mass is awesome, actually. Okay, so that'll be Wednesday night, right? Yes.

Speaker 1 Walking in a Colts cam. E

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ E for the Colts. Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah. You know, E, bald head.

Speaker 1 Eric Simpson. Eric Simpson.
Good guy. Okay.
Eric Simpson is a great man. Great guy.
Eric Simpson has had to sit through a lot of me asking a lot of questions. Okay.

Speaker 1 And he has sat in the pocket, and I'd like to let him know I appreciate the hell out of him. He was going to be the guy that was actually going to do me and Sam's wedding.

Speaker 1 End up being Bob Cavoyan, obviously, from Bob and Tom's show.

Speaker 1 So I said, but but like great relationship with e he also threw me a lot last night i saw him and i'm like hey pretty big time of year he right pretty because he's pastor or whatever he goes wednesday night you should come by and i actually was like

Speaker 1 you know what i might actually start this is did he give you the paper the notes from chapel usually when i see him he he gives me the rundown chapel he knows i'm not a notes guy i want to hear okay i want to hear the delivery you know because he'll do uh a man of the cloth i believe because jesus christ washed people's feet i believe that was one of the storyline damn right.

Speaker 1 I like to hear the way these stories that have been told a lot of times are delivered by the preacher or the pastor.

Speaker 1 I think that's what separates, obviously, who is supposed to be doing it, who's not supposed to be doing it. E good man.
He's got a big show Wednesday night, though. I told him that.

Speaker 1 I said, holy shit, dude. Big one coming up.
This is it. This is the Super Bowl, right? I was like, well, actually, Easter, we also.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, we got a whole thing. I was like, oh, I don't, I just heard about Yon Kippur.

Speaker 1 I just heard about it. I thought Hanukkah was the one.
I just heard about it all. So I hope everybody's happy, but Merry Christmas.
And we appreciate you all for allowing us to do this for a living.

Speaker 1 We're back tomorrow. B.A., anything before we get out of here?

Speaker 5 Great show. Better one next week.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. How about you, AQ? Merry Christmas to all.
And to all. A good night.
Okay, it's 3 o'clock in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 So obviously we hope you have a great rest of your afternoon as well and later evening and night. Debut, anything before we go?

Speaker 3 Enjoy your Kwanzaa. Happy Kwanzaa.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. That's a celebration, I believe, big time fruits.
I believe it's a lot of fruits out there.

Speaker 1 I actually ended up in a Kwanzaa celebration one time. I didn't know I was going to be there.
We were having a blast, though. I was trying to get some fruit.
They were having a celebration.

Speaker 1 We're in there. Happy Kwanzaa.
When is it?

Speaker 3 Starts the day after Christmas. First day is Unity.
It's about Unity.

Speaker 1 Boxing Day, we talked about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We don't really like Boxing Day, do we? No.

Speaker 1 Phenomenal day.

Speaker 1 Happy Boxing Day to Canadians Andy English. Happy Boxing Day, everybody.
Happy Boxing Day, Gump.

Speaker 1 Team on me, team on three. Merry Christmas, everybody.

Speaker 1 Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas.
Yes. Happy Kwanzaa.

Speaker 1 We're going to sing together. Happy Hanukkah.
Nope.

Speaker 1 Good celebration. Did you like all the candles? I did.
Got a great picture on my wife's Instagram. Did you play with the Dreidel? Played with the Dreidel.
We got 33 menoras in our house.

Speaker 1 Do they all come down for Christmas, you see? Jesus, it's time now.

Speaker 1 Is that what you do in the house? Split house, obviously. We made a bad spot.
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