PMS 2.0 1474 - TNF Preview, NFL Week 16 Preview/Picks, College Football Playoff Opening Round Preview, Mike McCarthy, Nick Saban, & AJ Hawk

Speaker 1 Beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome.

Speaker 1 On this college football playoff eve, Thursday, December 18, 2025, this program begins. Now,

Speaker 1 football is magical, and tonight on Amazon Prime, the NFL is delivering a fastball 108 on the tape.

Speaker 1 Rams, Seahawks in Seattle, the stadium that is known as the greatest environment in the NFL with the loudest fans, maybe in the entire world, hosting Matthew Stafford on an MVP-like run.

Speaker 1 The Seahawks favored by one and a half at home, but if you do the math on home field advantage versus a team traveling in, it's basically a pick'em.

Speaker 1 As the number one seed, Los Angeles Rams will try to lock down the NFC West or the Seahawks team with Sam Darnold in his first year. Is he a guy? Can he lead a team on a playoff run?

Speaker 1 When meaningful football comes around and that fat man is about to travel down chimneys all across the world.

Speaker 1 Can Sam Darnold deliver in the biggest way or will he crumble like we have seen a couple times in the past? Nobody will believe it until they see it. Sam believes it.

Speaker 1 McDonald, the coach of the Seahawks, believes it.

Speaker 1 And on the other side, Sean McVay has had this Los Angeles Rams team go from, oh, that little whiz kid's pretty good at coaching offense to, oh my God, they won a Super Bowl in their home stadium.

Speaker 1 to, oh my God, they have no picks, they have no money. And one of the GOATs, one of the greatest players of all time, Aaron Donald, is going to retire.
What are they going to do going forward?

Speaker 1 Well, Steed, McVay, Stafford, and the boys have been pillars throughout multiple different iterations of this Los Angeles Rams greatness run.

Speaker 1 They got a wide receiver in Puka Nakua, who is seemingly untackleable. Now, a lot of stuff off the field is getting loud.
He's going to have to continue to perform and be an absolute monster.

Speaker 1 We love Ooz. We would like the best for Ooze.
And we know that whenever Ooz is on primetime TV, he makes every play every time. He's going to have to.

Speaker 1 Devontae Adams pulled his hamstring this past weekend, just four days ago. Now, Sean McVay was kind of tight-lipped about him being ruled out.

Speaker 1 Let's assume 32-year-old Devontae Adams will not be playing tonight because of a hamstring, even though the game is massive for both of these teams. The injury wire, pretty clean for both sides.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Late in the season here. The teams that are playing very good on both sides.
It's week 16 and it's special.

Speaker 1 So we can't wait to tune in tonight as Kirk, Al, Kaylee Hartong, Hartong, Carissa Thompson, Fitz, Witt, Sherman, Gonzalez propel us into the greatest weekend of ball maybe ever. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 There's a chance. Because it's not just tonight that is special.
Tomorrow. We kick off the college football playoff.
CFP, kick off Friday, Alabama.

Speaker 1 Ty Simpson and the boys travel to take on Mateir Venables in Oklahoma to kick off the 12 teams counting down to one so we can crown a CFP national

Speaker 1 champion.

Speaker 1 It's a special time for football fans. This is going to be electrifying.
College Game Day Live, 6 to 8 Eastern Time beforehand.

Speaker 1 Then we'll kick off this college football playoff that has been obviously highly scrutinized, highly talked about.

Speaker 1 But the eyes that will be watching this will be huge because it's a special time with great teams and incredible environments.

Speaker 1 Oklahoma is going to deliver tomorrow night, and then on Saturday at noon in College Station, Texas, we'll be on the call on ESPN2 for our field pass.

Speaker 1 Miami and Carson Beck travel to take on a Texas A ⁇ M Aggie team that were undefeated all the way until the last game of the season where they lost to Texas.

Speaker 1 That's a bad taste in the mouth of Marcel Reed, Mike Elko, his big-ass brain, and a fan base that is ready to be showcased to the entire football world as one of the greatest environments in the history of sports down there at Kyle Field.

Speaker 1 Two other college football playoff games on Saturday, NFL games on Saturday, NFL games on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Then Monday night here in Indianapolis, the Niners travel to take on the Colts to punch their ticket to the playoffs. This is it, folks.
We did it.

Speaker 1 We are in the most important time of ball that there has ever been, and we should celebrate that every moment we get. Hell yeah.
Toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

Speaker 1 Ty, it's a special time. It's a special day.
You had a cake from Tom Cruise earlier today.

Speaker 2 Unbelievable. I mean, you know, and there were a lot of guys in here who were looking the gift horse in the mouth right when it came in.

Speaker 2 Well, wait, TC didn't send, you know, Mavs Mav's helmet from Top Gun or he didn't send this and that.

Speaker 2 Listen, a lot of these new school dudes don't understand that sending some sort of cake around the holiday season, around the Christmas season, is not only one of the classiest gestures you can do, and then you take it up a notch and it's TC's, you know,

Speaker 2 I don't even know how you, what was it, coconut white chocolate

Speaker 2 sponge cake that he handmakes all these himself. He's in the kitchen, you know, from 6 a.m.
Basically until 4 a.m. cooking these.
And he said, he only sends them to his closest of friends.

Speaker 2 And he sent one here to the office for all of us. So, I mean, you know, I could go on and on.
I don't want to waste any more time.

Speaker 1 No, but football is great right now. Football is great right now.
Football is great for now. But now, but a coconut bun cake from Tom Cruise.
Yeah. Are you kidding me? Name's on it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 Is this the best egg ever written?

Speaker 1 Tom Cruise's coconut cake is almost as famous as he is, and we got the recipe.

Speaker 1 The only thing missing from the recipe that you're about to read here is the Tom Cruise secret touch that we could certainly taste with every single bite. It was moist.
It was delightful.

Speaker 1 And boy, it was gorgeous.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was the best piece of cake I've ever had. Now, listen, I'm a coconut guy.
I love coconut. I love white chocolate.

Speaker 2 I love everything that this cake. It's almost like TC, you know, took a quick profile of me and said, you know what, I know exactly what this guy wants in a piece of cake.
And then he made it.

Speaker 2 He sent it here. And then, yeah, just a classy touch of putting everyone's name on there.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 I remember all you guys.

Speaker 2 I had a time of my life when I came on here and I was, you know, doing the Mission Impossible docket. I love you guys.

Speaker 2 So I just wanted to send you a couple cakes just to remind you that I'm thinking about you this holiday season.

Speaker 1 I mean, how many people over the years of this program have been on the show maybe once or twice and TC is the one of all people to send us something over Christmas. So many people could have done it.

Speaker 1 Plenty. And I don't want to throw out specific names, but I got a few up here right now.
We had a Pete Thamel family Christmas card. Wow.
Yeah, where's that? Where's that? Couple years. Wow.

Speaker 1 Where's that? That was the only thing we ever put on our fridge. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Pete Thammel's Christmas card, his family, has been on our fridge the last two. We've gotten for the last two years.
The only thing on our fridge, the only thing has been the Thammel family.

Speaker 1 I feel like I'm watching this family grow. I agree.
I feel like I'm seeing the authority and his beautiful family kind of continue to develop into this awesome powerhouse of a team.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, guess what? No Thamel this year. He might have been the one that called me a diva in that article.
I was going to say, Thammo? Might have been him doing doing the anonymous

Speaker 1 quoting from College Game Day. But just know this, Tom Cruise.
We appreciate the hell out of you. Let it go.
Thankful. Also, got a gift from Coach Saban, who will be joining us in about an hour or so.

Speaker 1 Cannot wait to catch up with him. His hockey team that he owns, the Nashville Predators, are currently completely defeated with him as an owner.
They lost 4-1 last night.

Speaker 1 We'll ask him how he's going to turn that around.

Speaker 1 We make some different line changes. Will you maybe change it up in between the pipes?

Speaker 1 Coach Saban, what are you really thinking about turning this Predators team back into who they were when they were Smashville? That guy, Joe, right there, huge brain.

Speaker 1 Okay, that guy's moving a lot of cars. That guy's moving a lot of business for Coach Sabin.
I got nothing but respect for him and them. And Coach Sabin's business acumen, outrageous.

Speaker 1 Guy, obviously, greatest college football coach of all time. Going to go down as one of the greatest leaders of all time.

Speaker 1 I think it's hard to put like war generals and football leaders and different sports leaders kind of all in one category and judge them.

Speaker 1 I think we could just say that he's one of the greatest leaders of all time. He's one of the greatest speech givers of of all time.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think he's one of the greatest teammates of all time, one of the greatest friends of all time.

Speaker 1 I assume he'll get into a sports complex, even if he doesn't know how to skate or knows what the hell a stick is.

Speaker 1 I assume he'll be able to figure out what needs to happen or what can happen or how he can kind of implement what he is. And congrats to the Preds.
I don't love that. Pittsburgh Penguins.

Speaker 1 Just so what I wish Sabin would have got in on that. I don't know how we let him go to Nashville instead of the Pittsburgh Penguins.
But congrats to him. We're pumped for him.

Speaker 1 But on that note, football.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Tom Cruise. Thank you, TC.
Love you. Thank you for shaving.

Speaker 1 Football is wonderful tone 62 of the bets tonight are on the rams getting a point and a half in seattle 60 of the bets or more of the public bets for us as betters has been terrible throughout this season thus far your thoughts on tonight and what is the over-under what are some of the props that look like they're getting a lot of action yeah so only one week this year has the public won on 60 or more of the bets being on teams for that week uh this last week we were five and six in that situation the total tonight is 42 and a half I'm not surprised that the majority of the public is on the Rams.

Speaker 3 They just played a few weeks ago, and the Rams turned Sam Darnold over four times.

Speaker 3 The Seattle Seahawks offense didn't look great, even though it was still a really close game. There was a chance for the Seahawks at the end, even with all those turnovers.

Speaker 3 But I'm still not surprised that everyone's on the Rams. Tonight, something to watch for.
There's been a lot, a lot of weather in the Pacific Northwest. T's and P's to everybody.

Speaker 3 There's flooding, wind, everything like that. Tonight, there's going to be wind gusts up to 40, I believe, with sustained around 20.

Speaker 3 So there's going to be a lot of wind tonight for these offenses against really, really good defenses. With that total of 42 and a half, it might be something to look at.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and last night, I mean, 40 degree or 40 mile an hour, 50 mile an hour is insane winds. They were reporting 142 mile an hour winds last night in Washington.

Speaker 1 A gust of 142 mile an hour was reported in Coldwater Ridge, Washington as a storm brought powerful winds to the Pacific Northwest, causing power outages across the region.

Speaker 1 Once again, positive thoughts and vibes and prayers to everybody up there battling any inclement weather at this time. I had no idea that happened up there in Seattle.

Speaker 1 I knew it was was rain, 142 mile-an-hour winds, and it's probably out to add altitude and stuff like that, whatever the case, that can certainly affect a football game. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Now, the way that stadium is built is like this.

Speaker 1 So you would think potentially the boxiness of it might be able to keep the wind out of there, but it will certainly get down there and maybe do a little bit of damage. I don't think the Rams care.

Speaker 1 Rams run the rock. Yes.
I don't think the Seahawks care. They run the rock as well.
So this might set up just be a little bit different, more of a physicality type game if the wind is bad.

Speaker 1 But I don't think either of these teams are scared to play that type of ball, which is a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and that's why, like, Jason Myers, who we had on the program earlier in the week, is such a massive advantage. Like, he's used to it.
Last week against the Colts, it wasn't great weather.

Speaker 1 Thicker kicker. I think this will be what, his third, fourth, fifth game.
He's been kicking good, though. Yeah.
His have all been... Congrats to Harris.
Harrison, I believe, Beavis.

Speaker 1 Harrison Beavis, the thicker kicker. He, every single one is seemingly pure.
I'm proud of it. It's not easy to do, especially in your first real action.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and this would be a massive kind of test for him, just because... Pure ball matters here.
Okay, so yeah, that's what I was going to ask.

Speaker 1 Jason Myers hits a pure ball. Uh, that's why he's so good for so long.
There's a lot of guys who have really strong legs that can get away with not hitting a pure ball. Okay, so

Speaker 1 we always do this. Uh, I do this once a year, so if you've heard it already, I do apologize.
Okay, here's football. This is baby duke, actually, we've got restored.petbackshow.com.

Speaker 1 Great tail get through.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's perfect size.

Speaker 1 And you can kick it and everything. I mean, it is.

Speaker 1 I don't want to get into a full QVC, but this one, this is a good ball. Where's the QR code? This is a good ball.
This is a good ball. Okay, so when you kick a ball, obviously there's a sweet spot.

Speaker 1 Okay, there's a sweet spot right below half and then about an inch there. That's about the sweet spot, what you're looking for.
Hit it too low, you're gonna spin it too thin, gonna go to the right.

Speaker 1 Hit it a little bit higher than that, it's gonna hit it fat, just like in a golf shot, you're gonna pull that thing.

Speaker 1 Now, there is an ability though to hit it a little bit fat, but still because your leg swing coming up and through it, have it go straight.

Speaker 1 What you're looking for whenever you hit it pure, straight through the ball, you're gonna have an end-over-end rotation, kind of slower, not too fast, but just perfect end-over-end.

Speaker 1 That'd be the perfectly pure struck ball. Okay, you see some Boswell hits like this.
Butker used to hit like this. Aubrey says he doesn't hit like this, but it does.
It is a very pure, pure ball.

Speaker 1 Then there's some that can't hit that spot as clean, but their leg strength and their leg swing make up for it. So it's a little bit of an X.
Okay. It's not as tight of an end over end.

Speaker 1 You see, it makes an X kind of as it's flipping, but if you have a strong enough leg, even if it's a little bit off-tilter, you can kind of control it.

Speaker 1 If there's wind, though, that's more surface area. You see, that's more surface area.
So the wind is more likely to eat that shit up. So that's why whenever you see balls,

Speaker 1 probably because it was a little bit of an X ball and then the wind ate it. And then you see some guys that are able to cut through the wind a little bit more and they'll hit a little bit lower.

Speaker 1 Maybe you get a little bit faster spin so you can kind of chop through it.

Speaker 1 Everybody thinks that whenever you're hitting a longer ball or something like that, you need to drive it lower, like drive it through.

Speaker 1 But actually your best ball is, you don't really hit, you don't see baseball players hit 500 foot line drive home runs.

Speaker 1 The best ball, ball, the biggest ball is your most pure ball, which is an absolute bomb. You might not want to do that in high, high wins.

Speaker 1 You might want to have to cut it a little bit, but the cut, just because you're hitting it lower, you have to lower the trajectory so it gets as far because you're losing distance whenever you're hitting the ball thinner.

Speaker 1 So there's a lot of little gamesmanship happening. Holders.
Okay, now here we go. So everybody kind of gets mad at Herb Street for the way he holds for right-footed kickers.

Speaker 1 They're always like, he's leaning it. He's leaning.
It's like, yes, that's what you do.

Speaker 1 You lean it because with a soccer style kick, it's coming through like this and there's a natural chance that it could pull so the lean actually straightens it up naturally as it comes off the foot every kicker has a different lean that they like matt stover who i held for my rookie year he liked that thing basically straight up and down almost teetering on leaning towards him.

Speaker 1 And then he liked it a little bit forward because he wanted the sweet spot to be very viewable.

Speaker 1 He wanted a little bit more open. Adam Venatari liked that thing leaning towards my right knee, damn near away from him because his leg swing was coming in through this way.

Speaker 1 so that had to straighten it up.

Speaker 1 Now, if I'm holding for him and the wind is coming hard this way, okay, from my ass going this way, right to left, I might lean that thing a little bit more, kind of keep that thing pure.

Speaker 1 If it's coming hard left to right, then Terry, I might sand that thing up a little bit, just a little bit more to kind of combat it.

Speaker 1 If the wind, if he needs to fully get through it, right, because the wind is going this way, okay, if the wind is going left to right, I'll close my knee down on him, okay?

Speaker 1 So he has to kind of get through it that way.

Speaker 1 So instead of holding with my knee open like this, okay, like I'm down on one knee, I'm holding like this, I'll shut that thing down like this so that he feels as if he has to fucking hit the ball to the left.

Speaker 1 So then we can play it there. Obviously, the conversation with the holder, Michael Dixon, who's the punter for the Seattle Seahawks with Jason Myers, they are looking for a target.

Speaker 1 Very rarely do you give up the upright. So a lot of times you'll see a ball like move.
half an upright or something. First the Colts, the game winner for Myers.

Speaker 1 Yes, so you'll see a ball move like that. Very rarely are you giving up the upright.
And by that, I mean very rarely are you aiming outside of the upright?

Speaker 1 Because then if the wind stops or something like that, you're having a miss.

Speaker 1 But there is very regular basis where we're aiming a foot inside upright or we're even aiming at upright and letting it eat.

Speaker 1 There was two games, I think, where me and Vinatari, and he's the one making the decision at the end. I am just Caddy, a part of the conversation, where we gave up the upright.

Speaker 1 Where it was like, hey, we are aiming fat guy. three outside, left upright is where we're aiming.
And then we're going to let the wind kind of do its thing.

Speaker 1 So that's a a huge part of the entire game, playing the wind. There are some guys who are great at it.
Nick Folk, one of the best wind kickers in the history. He's still doing it.
He's still doing it.

Speaker 1 So I think he hit a 50-year-old. He hit a 57-yard game with a kid.
57-yard or still, somehow. I have no idea how he's still doing it.
One of the best wind kickers of all time.

Speaker 1 Goskowski, obviously, was great. Vinatari was a great wind kicker.
There's few in the history that are very good at reading it, very, very good at playing it. And that's quite a weapon.

Speaker 1 I think Myers is one of these guys. I think he's very good at it.
And we'll see if

Speaker 1 Beavis is as well. But he hits a pure ball.
I think the issue is being confident enough and trusting the wind enough. Like, hey, I'm going to aim at this upright.

Speaker 1 And I am trusting that this wind that I can't feel because I'm not up there. Nobody can feel up there, what it is.
I'm just going to trust that it's going to take it.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to trust that in warm-ups, what the wind was doing is the same exact thing that it's doing right now because the wind changes literally minute to minute.

Speaker 1 So the high-gusting winds, if it's left to right on these uprights, you really find out a lot about the kicker and whether or not they trust it or if they can battle it or if they're just hitting and hoping.

Speaker 1 And you can kind of see those as well. Well, and how long does that, or I guess how close to the kick is that conversation happening between kicker and holders? Because it changes so much.

Speaker 1 We're jogging on field. So we're jogging on.
Everybody talks about the top of the uprights, the flags. Flags.
That's just the wind there. That's just the wind there.

Speaker 1 There's so many different, I mean, depending upon the stadium. If it's perpendicular, is that what it's called? No.
If it's

Speaker 1 shadows, when one shadows the other? Symmetrical. If it's a symmetrical stadium, okay, wind comes in this way, and then it's going to come back out this way, okay? So this side is getting this side.

Speaker 1 If there's holes, now obviously that changes everything.

Speaker 1 So what that flag is doing in some stadiums, like in Pittsburgh, is actually the opposite of what it will be doing for the rest of the field until there. So flags definitely matter.

Speaker 1 Okay, but it doesn't tell you the whole story of everything that's kind of happening. It's more so like a visual feel, I think, for the TV people to be there.

Speaker 1 But it is nice to know what the hell's going on in that exact spot whenever it gets there. We were the Colts facility.
We have an outdoor field. Then we have an indoor facility here.

Speaker 1 Our field runs this way. And then there's like an alley that comes in between the practice facility and then the actual full facility.
There's like a wind gap right here.

Speaker 1 And there was a day where we would be kicking. And then as soon as it got to five yards in front of the upright, it was just like a jet.
It was like a fun game. But Vinatari worked this shit.

Speaker 1 Like he wanted to go out there. He wanted to see it.
That's why you see a lot of kickers good at golf because whenever you're in golf, you have to be able to play the wind and do everything.

Speaker 1 But it takes a lot of trust that you're A, going to hit where you're aiming because it's like in a putt.

Speaker 1 If you're not going to putt the ball where you're aiming it anyways, does it matter if you aim to the right and it breaks three cups? Like if it breaks two cups, but you hit that thing four cups.

Speaker 1 Does it matter what it was going to do anyways?

Speaker 4 Not at all. Exactly.

Speaker 1 So like you have to have enough trust that you're going to be able to hit to where you're aiming first of all. And then, oh yeah, we are aiming outside of the uprights and see what we can do.

Speaker 1 A little game inside of a game. But if it's going to be 50-mile-an-hour wins, then it's going to get in there.
I mean, there's a chance. There's a chance that we get one of those.
The Niners had

Speaker 1 lefty. I think it was John Casey, maybe.

Speaker 1 John Casey has a legendary kick. John Casey with a K, by the way, great spelling.
He has a kick where the ball, like,

Speaker 1 I think it's like a

Speaker 1 20-yard ball. 20-yard bend.
I think it goes in, I think,

Speaker 1 if I'm not mistaken. I think the Bears have a couple in their history.

Speaker 1 Elliott, 61-yarder, I think it was Kelsey's last season, had a crazy to tie the game where it went left and then came back and snuck in on the right.

Speaker 1 Anytime you're aiming outside of the uprights, it's like

Speaker 1 you got to have massive. Yeah.
Because if you pull that, so let's say you aim left

Speaker 1 and the wind is left to right. You, but if you pull that at all and don't hit a pure ball, that thing might go up the side of the upright.
Yeah, they've seen it by like 100.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's like, it's an embarrassing situation. You might lose your job forever.
Good luck out there.

Speaker 1 Good luck out there, brother. Mivis.
Mevis? Mivis Mevis. I just looked it up here.
Harrison Mevis. But I think it's pronounced Beavis.
I think the reason why I thought Beavis.

Speaker 1 I think it is Mivis. Mevis Beavis.
From Missouri, talented kicker, getting an opportunity to be with maybe a Super Bowl team. UXFL product? I'll tell you what.
You make kicks, brother.

Speaker 1 You go win a Super Bowl. Then you just do it again next year.
That's right. And then all of a sudden you have a 10-year career in Los Angeles.
That is what it's like.

Speaker 1 You just need an opportunity, need a chance, need to make your kicks, especially in big divisional games, and then add in potential 40, 50 mile an hour wins.

Speaker 1 It's like you make a couple kicks tonight, brother. You might have a career.
You might.

Speaker 1 You might live.

Speaker 1 Tonight, you might make yourself a career. Congratulations.
Get paid. Yeah.
You live good for a long time here. You hit a couple big balls.

Speaker 2 We talked a little bit with Myers about it. Like, obviously, they go on the road, so they'll play some games.
But like being in LA, there's really no way you can prepare for this that much either.

Speaker 2 Can you?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I think it's windy in L.A., don't it?

Speaker 2 But like, not like, I mean, I guess 50-mile-an-hour wins are a little bit different.

Speaker 2 But, like, you know, Myers was saying how, like, the elements out there kind of, like, I assume, you know, it's always rainy. Like, they're probably much more used.
I mean, I, I guess, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Like, would you be able to prepare for that at all? Is it kind of just.

Speaker 1 He went to Missouri. How's Missouri's weather?

Speaker 2 I would imagine Midwest, so probably it probably gets windy.

Speaker 1 Tornado Alley. Yeah, very true.
Uh-oh. I mean, I'm, yeah, exactly.
I, uh, exactly. He might have been growing up.
Legit.

Speaker 1 Like, I grew up in Pittsburgh, obviously. So kicking in snow, punting in snow and shit like that was never really like a worry for me.
Then I go to West Virginia. It's wildly windy, wildly cold.

Speaker 1 Every day was tough. Not really a worry for me.
Then I get to Indianapolis and I realized like, oh, every day it's windy out. Like every day it's very windy out here.

Speaker 1 So I felt like I was prepared for everything. And then we played in Cleveland and it was cold and windy.
And mentally, I was like, no, I can't. I can't do anything today.
So it can get you.

Speaker 1 You know, it's just like when you're from the cold, it doesn't mean you're going to be good in the cold.

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, you have a better shot at it because mentally you've been able to just battle it your whole life.

Speaker 1 But that day in Cleveland, I'll never forget just going out there and being like, I don't know if I can even make contact with a football here today. This is a little bit too breezy for me.

Speaker 3 The cold thing, the growth like in playing in the cold thing is I've like, I think we felt it today, like, cause it's been zero degrees all week. And then this morning it was 35.

Speaker 3 It felt like it was 80.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's the difference. It's like when it's zero, yeah, everyone's cold.
But when it's back up to 30, like people who live here, it feels like it's 80.

Speaker 1 That's what we were trying to tell the Tennessee kids when they had their shirts off. It's like, hey, hey, hey, it gets cold in Tennessee.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, yeah, I know, but you don't have to act like you're not cold. We are all cold.
It's cold. Everybody here is cold right now.
It is actually cold. No human's supposed to really be doing this.

Speaker 1 Even the Inuits would say, this is cold right now. So

Speaker 1 let's make sure we, yeah. We were trying to tell them.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they're Vaselined up.
Yeah, they're ready to go. We're tough in this thing.
Looking jacked. They are.
Speaking of.

Speaker 1 Okay, that, hey, yeah. Okay,

Speaker 1 had some good glistening in there. All right, let's talk about some other news around the football world.

Speaker 1 Chicago Bears are now going to be the Midwest Bears. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's stories brewing about Chicago leaving Soldier Field and building somewhere else. And now it feels like this is three different times where we thought it was for sure going to happen.

Speaker 1 We for sure had a place. They were for sure moving forward.
And congratulations, the Bears have a new stadium and a new super duper park around it where they're going to own everything.

Speaker 1 The Bears now no longer downtown. The Bears are now out a a little bit in Arlington or something like that.

Speaker 1 That feels like we've had this conversation throughout the course of our live show's existence since Kevin Warren has become CEO and president of the Chicago Bears three different times.

Speaker 1 Every single time some political tax stuff pops up and goes, nope, actually it's not happening anymore. Who knows what they're going to do? State of Indiana.

Speaker 1 came in and we're like, hey, Gary, Indiana is very close. They consider themselves a part of Illinois.

Speaker 1 And there was almost a rezoning of the states that was being talked about where southern Illinois would come over into Indiana, and I think some of northern Indiana would go over to Illinois to be in Chicago.

Speaker 1 That was being talked about in like 2025. That we're redoing a state was being talked about for how close we are.

Speaker 1 And now, to Tone's point, it is two different time zones, which would certainly be quite an issue. But Gary, Indiana is in the Chicago time zone as opposed to the Indianapolis time zone.

Speaker 1 So, like, that area is kind of already operating as if it's Illinois, but it has Indiana taxes, Indiana,

Speaker 1 which is

Speaker 1 could be quite a benefit for a business if they were to operate. And the governor of Indiana has come out and said, hey,

Speaker 1 whatever you guys need up there, we'll give you tax-free build. We'll give you land.
We obviously got the space for it. You can build your entire thing.
And they're trying to bait.

Speaker 1 They're trying to bait the Bears, I think, to potentially move into a promised land here that's close to Chicago, but certainly not in Illinois. That'd be a fascinating thing.

Speaker 1 Are you still the Chicago Bears? Because a lot of people up there consider themselves to be Chicago people. But if it's in Indiana, are you still going to be able to get away with that?

Speaker 1 Or is this the Midwest Bears? Are we the Midwest Bears up there coming out of Gary, Indiana potentially because of tax breaks?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Illinois screwing this up and Chicago screwing this up is awesome for the people of Indiana just because they should. I mean, you want to build,

Speaker 1 what is it, a Jerry World, a Patriot place. Teams want that now.
You make so much more money. I didn't even think about the tax thing between Illinois and Indiana.

Speaker 1 Like, if you are, you know, Kevin Warren, president and CEO, and he's done a lot of things and a lot of business moves that I think everyone said, huh? Okay.

Speaker 1 But if he were to bring them to Indiana with that entire layout, with a tax-free build, like you're not just saving hundreds of millions of dollars on the build itself, you're also profiting billions of dollars by having

Speaker 1 all those things. Let alone if they were to pitch like, hey, could we do a casino? Like there are casinos in Indiana already.
Could we possibly do one?

Speaker 1 What's wrong, Ty? No, I agree. Fans are not.
Oh, no. If if you're if they're gonna be pissed and I'll tell you what there is not enough people in that area of Indiana to make up for no

Speaker 2 Chicago Chicago Bears are one of the most like synonymous brands in sports and this isn't like uh commanders are in Washington DC but they're they play in Virginia you know Washington DC is small it's like you take a team that's been in the NFL one of the oldest franchises yeah and you move them to Gary Indiana like listen they're good right now so that certainly helps they don't stink but you think Bears fans are just going to be like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, I'll drive from my place in downtown Chicago to Gary, Indiana.

Speaker 1 It'll be a little bit more. How far do you think it is?

Speaker 1 All right, so I just looked it up.

Speaker 3 Okay. Where was the.
It was, it was, they said it was going to be in Arlington Heights, potentially.

Speaker 1 40 summers. So from

Speaker 3 Soldier Field to Arlington Heights, it is 35 minutes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 So from Soldier Field to Gary, Indiana, 31 minutes.

Speaker 1 Oh, closer to Chicago.

Speaker 1 Are we trying to keep this thing like the Chicago Bears or not? We all know what Chicago traffic's like. Yeah, if you leave and it's like helicopter legend, everybody's helicopter.
You're right.

Speaker 2 And all these Bears fans can afford that.

Speaker 1 Gary's closer. Maybe it is.
Gary's closer. But that's the thing with having all that land.
Like, instead of, hey, we're going to the Bears game Sunday, it's no, we're going to Gary Friday.

Speaker 1 We're hanging out on Friday night at the casino there. We got a hotel room Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Speaker 3 Gary was the...

Speaker 1 was the highlight of that show. Oh, where's Michael Jackson from? Oh,

Speaker 1 his house will be in between a casino and a stadium. Boom.
And walk by and see if this is the right move. This is the right move.
I mean, you're going to lose a piss people off.

Speaker 1 You're going to piss people off. But hey, sounds like it's already happening.
So welcome to Midwest American Bears. Crazy.
And if they're good, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're a Bears fan? Oh, you're going to leave them when they're finally good? Go ahead. Go ahead and leave them when they're finally good.

Speaker 1 And you finally have a quarterback that's going to throw over 4,000 yards at some point.

Speaker 1 I would like to let Mike Braun, though, Governor Mike Braun, I appreciate him just being like, hey, we're all ears over here let's go whatever whatever whatever you would like governor holcomb uh the previous governor who did the max amount of terms and ended his time he was very much like hey indiana we're open for business we got a lot of space and opportunity here we got good tax and brought in a lot of business like indiana as you see and you hear about we host everything we got a lot going on here northwest indiana not talked about a lot as like developing no if governor mike braun was able to throw a hill mary to get the chicago bears to move to indiana dude they built up an entire place.

Speaker 1 What a move.

Speaker 2 I mean, the Chirps Bears fans are going to get from this. Like, just any, like,

Speaker 1 we just lost to the Gary Bears this week. I mean,

Speaker 2 it's not going to be Chicago anymore, and it's going to piss people off that are Bears fans.

Speaker 1 It's 31 minutes away. It's 31 minutes away.
It's nothing. And that's on Chicago.
Look, it's not on the franchise. It's not, it's not on, you know, Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 You can call them the Boohoo Bears if you want. If you are a Bears fan, you get upset.
But hey, it's a business, and it is a winning team that's looking to expand a little bit, okay?

Speaker 1 Blame your state, blame your city for basically

Speaker 1 politics. Yeah, blame your politicians, yeah, which we can do for everything, it feels like.

Speaker 1 But let's move along. Uh, joining us now, lately,

Speaker 1 I hope it's so bad,

Speaker 1 Packers fans. Oh, God, they'll be relentless.

Speaker 1 I mean, the names, the names we were throwing out, if the Chicago Bears is historic in the sea and everything, but I mean, they got a chance to rebrand here to not just Chicago.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, what about the what was it? The American Bears, the American Bears.

Speaker 1 Hey, goodbye, Cowboys. You're not America's team.
The American Bears. Apparently Gary.

Speaker 1 Gary are America's team. Sorry, Jerry.

Speaker 3 All the Midwest.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Hey, welcome to Indiana. Hey, welcome to Indiana, Ben Jones.
Or Ben Johnson. We appreciate you.
Caleb?

Speaker 1 The new Indiana Jones. Caleb and James.
Ben Johnson. Caleb's going to love Gary.
Caleb's a big Michael Jackson fan. He might buy Michael Jackson's house.
It's not for sale, brother.

Speaker 1 Okay, you can actually certainly have a part of the entire thing, but let's not get crazy here. Gary's not completely for sale, unless it is.

Speaker 1 Unless it's the right price.

Speaker 1 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen,

Speaker 1 is a man who's an absolute legend. I think what I've been so impressed by is the depth of this Yenser's thoughts.
I did not know was possible for said any Yinser, bro.

Speaker 1 He's a good football coach, coach of all great football teams. He's Super Bowl champion.
He's obviously incredibly handsome. And he has a dog that is a multiple-time

Speaker 1 ribbon award winner for getting birds out in the woods. That's right.
Ladies and gentlemen, Coach, Michael Carson. Yay, coach.

Speaker 1 How you doing, coach?

Speaker 5 I'll tell you what, your introductions never get old.

Speaker 5 That was fine.

Speaker 1 I want to make sure you got a lot of fun. Thanks for the love for Gus.
Oh, yeah, Gus. I want to make sure Gus got a little bit of love there.

Speaker 1 Speaking of love, looks like there's a lot of love over your shoulder. Who do we have joining us here today?

Speaker 5 Well, I'll just, you know, being with the Christmas spirit and trying to line up with your shirt.

Speaker 5 I was just, it's amazing to all the parents that, you know, you have young kids and how fast they grow up. So, this is, these are my two youngest here, Izzy and Gabby.
They're 14 and 17 now.

Speaker 5 And just as we're getting ready for Christmas and going through the old pictures and so forth, it's just amazing how fast these kids grow up.

Speaker 5 So, just a friendly reminder to you and all the other gentlemen on the set there that have kids. Everybody tells you they grow up fast, and they certainly do.
So, it's been really cool just as

Speaker 5 you prepare for Christmas and as my wife Jessica gets the house ready, that

Speaker 5 some of these pictures are floating around. So I just thought I'd share that today.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Thank you for the message.
And I will actually. We're in the middle of football season.
There's a lot of activity, a lot of things to figure out, a lot of things to sort. And you're right.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did need to hear that. Thank you so much.
Obviously, I'm enjoying time with my daughter, especially now that she's coherent enough to kind of understand what's going on.

Speaker 1 And ho-ho, and Santa is bringing good stuff. And then being able to hold that over her head is nice, too.
Hey, you think Santa's going to like that? Santa's watching.

Speaker 1 That's been a lot of fun. Now, did you dress up as Santa Claus every year or just whenever they were young? It looks good.

Speaker 5 Oh, come on.

Speaker 1 You didn't deserve that. You didn't deserve that.
Okay.

Speaker 5 I didn't always have his fine beard, but I'm about ready to get rid of this thing anyways. But no, but

Speaker 5 it's funny to just, because the enjoyment I get from that picture, all my daughters were scared of mascots, you know, Santa Claus and so forth.

Speaker 5 And this is probably one of the first times that we were ever able to get the the girls to sit on Santa's lap. And so that's where, you know, you remember those times, the little things that happened.

Speaker 5 You know, my oldest daughter, Alex, actually, when we were in Kansas City, we used to have Casey Wolfe come to the house, you know, had paid for Casey Wolfe to come to the house for three birthday parties and never was able to get a picture with her and him because they were scared to death of Casey Wolfe.

Speaker 5 So, I mean, so, you know, those are the little things you remember. So this was really cool

Speaker 5 for them actually to sit on Santa's lap and take that picture because, you know, some kids are just not comfortable in that space.

Speaker 1 Casey Wolf is the Kansas City mascot. Casey Wolf is not the guy that robbed the banks and ends up in jail.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, which is good because if Coach McCarthy would have bringing that particular Wolf to the house, obviously we'd all have questions. Instead, it's just the Kansas City Chiefs mascot, which we are

Speaker 1 grateful for. We love you, Coach.

Speaker 1 We appreciate the fact that you are great father, great dad, and also a guy who shows up every single week for us, Genuinely, you try to crush it for us, and you give us great answers every single week.

Speaker 1 You've made us better. And I think in this holiday season, we need to tell you we appreciate the hell out of you.
Now, Tom Cruise sent us a coconut

Speaker 1 bunt cake. Yeah, that's right.
Three of them. Okay, just want to let you know that.
Really? Yeah, just something to think about as you're checking your list.

Speaker 3 Somebody said it to him, too. There was a mic on the card.

Speaker 1 Yeah, actually, he.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he might have been talking about you. He might have been just assuming you're a part of the crew.
Tom Cruise sent you a coconut vanilla bunt cake to this Thunderdome. We ate it.

Speaker 1 You won't get to see it or enjoy it but just know that it was spectacular

Speaker 5 well that's cool yeah mice dump musk i will i will say this though uh you are on jessica's uh christmas list so i have no idea what you're getting but uh and i don't know when you know when that that's She's awesome at it.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 I think you guys will be in great shape.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, please tell Jessica we said thank you.
We appreciate the hell out of you and your family for everything.

Speaker 1 And I'll tell you what it is nice to find out what we got somebody sometimes you know you know whenever uh me

Speaker 1 and Sam will walk into a thing obviously I'll make sure I ask yes that's uh that's that seems like a veteran well I got next week right you know I'll be ready okay all right sounds good we'll see but Sam having something perfectly wrapped obviously she wrapped it she does her takes her time with it everything like that she's an artist and then she hands it to somebody and then I immediately go

Speaker 1 I have no idea you're gonna love it i have immediately big sell hey that thing is awesome we're they're gonna love that

Speaker 1 yes yes they are gonna love that okay perfect perfect perfect did that we move forward merry christmas to all and to all

Speaker 1 A good night. Speaking of good night, we got a great one in store here.
NFC West Battle, and this is real football now. Week 16 is kicking off in a huge way.

Speaker 1 62% of the bets are on the Rams, getting a point and a half up there in Seattle. Matthew Stafford, leader in the MVP odds this year at the age of 38 or 39, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 Devontae Adams, we assume going to miss with a hamstring, still have a plethora of weapons.

Speaker 1 And then for the Seattle Seahawks, it's all about whether or not Sam Darnold can perform in the big moment, basically.

Speaker 1 Jackson Smith and Jigba is outrageous, but will that even matter with the 50-mile an hour wins potentially? Will this come down to run game? Will this come down to defense?

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on this game and how special it is that we have a matchup like this happening on a Thursday night, just a week before Christmas, coach?

Speaker 5 I'm laughing because

Speaker 5 I'm looking at my notes. I think you read half my damn notes.

Speaker 1 Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. You've been teaching me this.

Speaker 5 It's all good.

Speaker 5 This is going to be another great division game. I know they played a few weeks back, and

Speaker 5 Turner was obviously very high for Seattle with the interceptions. But, well, I think this is going to be just a barn burner.
This is going to be a lockdown drag out.

Speaker 5 Both teams are obviously excellent football teams,

Speaker 5 but they're playing very well right now. So I think

Speaker 5 this is going to be a clash.

Speaker 5 Division, you know, Seattle has to have it. Obviously, the Rams are already in.
But, you know, I think that the key, I mean,

Speaker 5 I believe, you know, weather. I mean, something I've always studied in Green Bay was the wind.
You know, just every day at practice, watching the flags and being able to tell the mile an hour.

Speaker 5 And then obviously the rain and things are coming out. And, you know, in the numbers up here, I mean,

Speaker 5 I mean, don't they, do they not call 140 mile an hour wind in Seattle a hurricane? I mean, it does.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a registered hurricane. I forget what.

Speaker 1 Four, three, four, yeah, category four. Four, yeah.
142 mile an hour documented in Coldwater Ridge, which obviously, positive thoughts and prayers to everybody. We don't know where Coldwater Ridge.

Speaker 2 Two and a half hours south of Seattle.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the whole area is getting hit, obviously that area the most. But yes, they did categorize it as a hurricane, which is obviously very

Speaker 1 detrimental to a football game that is potentially happening in the middle of it, Coach.

Speaker 5 Yeah, definitely. No, definitely.
Wind to me is the biggest factor in preparing for a football game.

Speaker 5 I mean, rain, snow, you know, heat, but I've always felt wind, you know, factors more than anything. You know,

Speaker 5 it always changed my mindset and changed the way I looked at the game. So I think, A, being a home team, you know, you know, being an outdoor team, you know, I think those do that those things factor.

Speaker 5 You got two outstanding defenses. I really love what the Rams have done, you know, practicing against the Rams.

Speaker 5 When I was with the Cowboys, you you know, out there in California two years ago when all these guys were very young, you could see this thing was building and can't say enough about the job Chris Scholl has done there.

Speaker 5 And so, and obviously what Mike McDonald's done with the defense in Seattle. So you got two knockdown drag out defense playing in a bad weather wind game.
So

Speaker 5 it's always about the football, but taking care of the football is going to be at a premium.

Speaker 5 And when you're playing these games, you know, the way you call it and the way you play the decisions you make in situational football, field position will be huge in this game, the field position battle, you know, what you do on third and fourth down, you know, how do you approach that?

Speaker 5 So I think it's going to be a knockdown, drag out type game. I have such...
great respect for Matthew Stafford because these games usually come down to the quarterback

Speaker 5 that can move the football in those types of situations. And, you know, I've seen him play outdoors so many times in Green Bay.
So, you know, I think he'll definitely be ready for this.

Speaker 5 But, you know, to me, I'm 0-3 when I bet, you know, when I bet with my heart, this is when the tide's going to turn. I'm going with the John Snyder Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 5 And I think they're definitely going to pull this one out.

Speaker 1 I like that the.

Speaker 5 I'm going to take the Seahawks tonight.

Speaker 1 I like that, you know, because AJ, very similar with Schneider and his relationship up there in Green Bay.

Speaker 1 I'm 0-3 whenever I just clearly picked my friends, but I'm going with the guy none of us have talked about, Schneider. And

Speaker 1 I love everything about it. It's holiday season.
Good for the friends. And they can certainly get a huge win here, just like the the Rams could.
It's only one and a half point spread.

Speaker 1 I want to talk to you a little bit more about the win with the quarterback.

Speaker 1 I talked about with the kickers, you know, about aiming and where you're doing and cutting and driving and pure ball as opposed to like a fat ball.

Speaker 1 You hit a fat ball, that thing's going to get eaten up. You have to hit it pure in the wind.

Speaker 1 Punting sucks in the wind worse than kicking, I think, because there's a moment of free fall where you're not touching the ball. And if it's gusty there, that thing moves.

Speaker 1 You're going to see some shanks tonight, I would assume, even though these guys are very, very good punters. It's like punting sucks.

Speaker 1 The decision to punt, though, is something that a coach has to make, certainly, because if we're going to only get 25, 30 yards here in net field position or 20 yards net field position, should we go for it or not?

Speaker 1 And then let's talk about throwing a little bit. Do you know any tricks that guys do for throwing in the wind or why some guys are better in dealing with the elements?

Speaker 1 Big hand, is there like a spin rate maybe that cuts through the wind better? Is there anything that you've kind of seen or acknowledged?

Speaker 5 Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 5 I remember as a young quarterback coach, you know, I had a coach tell me that they would change the way they hold the ball, but I never believed I was very fortunate to have, you know, we had Aaron and Brett in Green Bay.

Speaker 5 You know, these guys, you know, long arms, you know, 10-inch hands can really torque the football.

Speaker 5 And, you know, the most important thing is not to overgrip the football, you know, in the bad weather.

Speaker 5 So, you know, I thought you made a really good point about the punting, you know, something that I'd always look at, you know, particularly on your call sheet, you know, the shot plays, when you take them and so forth.

Speaker 5 Because, you know,

Speaker 5 third long now becomes

Speaker 5 a better opportunity to take the shot because a you know an interception on a shot play would probably serve better than a punch so all those little things that go into you know into playing the game in the wind you know really come into this you know the strategy for the coaches you know and you talk about the win for kicking and I thought Mason Crosby was an outstanding kicker for us all the all my years in Green Bay and not only the wind you know any time there was a the weather, the pattern would be different, you know, Mason, whether it was during practice or after practice, before practice, you know, him, the snapper and holders, Rob Davis was a big part of that, would go up because they're always wanting to work the different, you know, different wind.

Speaker 5 Because, you know, the big flag, we had the big flags in the north end zone out there in Lambeau. And, you know, full pitch flags, 25 mile an hour.

Speaker 5 So you learn how to read the wind with, you know, with the density of how the flags pitched. I had an old military guy take me through that.
So that's something you watch during the game.

Speaker 5 But, you know, during my time in Green Bay, they had a north end zone expansion.

Speaker 5 So now that changed the way the wind come in, you know, because now it kind of came, you know, you may have a northwest wind, but it would start to come in and turn the bend a little bit to the southeast.

Speaker 5 And you know, and then when they put the south end zone in, which was even higher, you know, that now that kind of created a swirl effect, you know, because when you have those elements of building, like in Dallas, you know, there's, you got those corporate buildings around that practice field.

Speaker 5 You're, you're pretty much in a wind tunnel.

Speaker 5 You know, so you, you, you learn through your years of experience that, you know, that's something i used to do as a head coach because you know you got a guy that you know behind us we had uh t-bone tom bake bach in there in in green bay said his name right tom bach and so in green bay you know just he would stand behind me doing the he would be doing the time doing the timing and things that he but we'd always anytime it was a windy day we'd say hey what's the win we guess you know 14 mile an hour 50.

Speaker 5 it was all based on the flag so you know those years in green bay were very beneficial for me you know as a head coach learning that but i thought mason and rob davis in our in our battery of snappers and kickers did an outstanding job at getting in the stadium on the odd days, anytime you see a little different weather pattern, just to make sure they had a feel how that wind was coming into the stadium.

Speaker 5 And, you know, with those expansions over the years, it, you know, the way it turned changed too. So it's definitely part of the game.
I mean, that could be the difference of, you know,

Speaker 5 taking the ball and, you know, going to the north or, you know, or deferring and getting the ball. Make sure you want to go south at the end of the game.

Speaker 5 So that's, to me, that's all part of your pregame strategy.

Speaker 1 I appreciate that you think about all those things. As I was listening to you just on the other things, I'm like, man, it would have been nice to know a lot of these things here.

Speaker 1 You doing the third-down arm punt, boy, I would have been so pumped. There was a day in Cleveland where I wish we did about three or four third-down arm punts.
And Andrew Luck gave me one.

Speaker 1 He gave me one. He actually came over to me afterwards and was like, I figured you wouldn't care.
And I'm like, nope. Thank you so much, dude.

Speaker 1 Like, he threw like, I think it was like a 52-yard pick, and it was very windy. Clearly, just threw that thing up into nothing.
guy caught it tackled down at like the 15 and i

Speaker 1 thank you thank you

Speaker 1 as he was coming off because for punt you have to drop that that thing is free falling so it's like if any gust happens it would be like when you're driving and the ball just falls off the tee but then you still have to hit it it's like the punt part of it nobody really thinks about because most people kind of go to the bathroom when the punting happens or they just it's a turnover we'll just get it whenever the comes back it's like if you're usually getting 45 50 yards and then you actually only get like 20 yards, you're putting your defense in a bind, especially with the way they could potentially go the other way.

Speaker 1 It's like, it's wind is a huge part. And you understanding the jet streams of each stadium.
I like that the head coach is involved in that.

Speaker 1 Because obviously kickers, punters, that's what we're trying to figure out. We're trying to figure out what the jet streams are as soon as we get in there.

Speaker 1 Because there are some places where it could be in your face, field level, but if you get that thing up to about the third story, that thing is shooting that way actually.

Speaker 1 So the only goal is just to get this thing up in the air, even though usually with wind in your face, you would not want to hit it up because that thing's going to go backwards.

Speaker 1 It's like, well, actually, if you get this thing up there, that thing will take off for you going that way.

Speaker 1 It's a, it's a wild part of the game that 50 mile an hour wins, it could really be a huge factor tonight. Going back in the snow.

Speaker 1 I mean, Drake May did this. They had the ball in the 40, and they were in the snow.
It was a bad weather game.

Speaker 1 And on third and, I think it was third and 28 or third and 30, he did just do like a, all right, arm punt. And it ended up being an interception on the eight-yard line.

Speaker 1 And I think Jage called it that in real time. He said that was a 49-yard arm punt, basically, there, which we will take.

Speaker 1 It's like, I appreciate you as call player, or uh, play caller and head coach being like,

Speaker 1 uh,

Speaker 1 let's help out Mac Ver a little bit. Just, if nothing's out there, just I think safety needs another pick for like a career record, just throw that thing up to him.

Speaker 1 You know, like that is uh,

Speaker 1 go ahead. What were you gonna say?

Speaker 5 Well, I'll say this, you know, I mean, you know,

Speaker 5 I wasn't really doing it to throw the interceptions. I always felt that the, you know, your 50-50 balls fake, you know, obviously

Speaker 5 favor the offensive player when the ball is moving in the win-two. So

Speaker 5 not to disrespect the DBs, but there's a reason why they're on defense and you're throwing to an offensive receiver.

Speaker 5 So I also thought that that factored into taking advantage of those one-on-ones.

Speaker 5 And something I got into as a head coach is I started going on the early, early bus with the trainers and the equipment guys over to the stadium, which is like four hours before the game.

Speaker 5 And me and the equipment, assistant equipment manager, we would go out.

Speaker 5 bucky used to do it with me and in green and down there in dallas and we would go we'd go out there and and we'd look at the wind you know so we would get the wind pattern and you know look at the the surface always on the out you know indoor games obviously it didn't factor but that was something that was part of the you know the pre-game exercise and then when the special teams coach you know particularly john fossil would come then he'd obviously have the conversation with the you know with the specialists so i think that's that's your part of your job as a head coach to understand the conditions of of what you're playing in each and every week we've wasted a lot of time on this, and I appreciate, it's not wasting, it's a lot of information, but I did not expect us to get this deep into wind reading, but there's a chance that it's a massive factor tonight.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about some other things happening around the league, and let's talk about one of the people that you literally just mentioned. Go ahead, Tone.

Speaker 3 Yeah, coach, you mentioned Aaron Rodgers, and obviously he's one of the best cold and wind throwers of all time. And basically, the last two weeks have been his best two weeks of the season.

Speaker 3 as the temperature drops. But not all, like the play on the field, yes.

Speaker 3 But then he's coming out this week, and he said, finally the Steelers are practicing like a team that is ready for the playoffs, their habits and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 He's getting 12 men caught on the on the field.

Speaker 3 You know, he was yelling at the sideline because they substituted when there was a play that could have been overturned.

Speaker 3 Like all these things, I think we're starting to see what Aaron brings to a team. Are you seeing that?

Speaker 3 And what does Aaron bring to a team this part of the season, this late in the season in a playoff push?

Speaker 5 Well, this is why I was excited, you know, for him to end up in Pittsburgh. I think he just was a tremendous fit all the way around.

Speaker 5 You got a team that's,

Speaker 5 in my view, has one of the top defenses each and every year. And the ability this time of year to have your defense that's always going to keep you in the game.
And

Speaker 5 there's

Speaker 5 no one else you'd want to have the ball in a two-minute drill. So just from a basic general outlook, I thought this was a tremendous fit.
But yeah,

Speaker 5 you're seeing a big part of this guy's, you know, his greatness. I mean, his game management and just the reps and

Speaker 5 in in the in the detail that he puts into this i mean that that's you know that's that's the way he's played for you know well over a decade so uh and it's and it's and it's just you know reps and i you do you know they do really look good i really like the way they played the last you know the last uh last two weeks and you know i i'm actually was real excited i thought he was outstanding on the uh on the pittsburgh tush push i mean his stance was something i'm sure he had to work on dramatically well just in case there's a fumble he's got to get the tackle yeah he's got to make the tackle you know i yeah i was i was hoping aj would be on it because i got it i mean he had to be laughing at that too because i couldn't imagine not giving him the ball on on third one or fourth one down there in a key situation when he's 25 years old i think being 41 he he definitely handles that a little better because you know them guys you know you know great players great players want the ball in those situations and then you know when i think back i actually i thought brett favre and and marcus allen had two of the best explanations of goal line you know running goal line pass that i've ever you know i've ever heard and i think but they also backed it up you know Brett Brett's whole thing was give, you know, give me the ball inside the five, you know, with goal line personnel because you've got all 22 guys right here.

Speaker 5 So, and, you know, get me out of the pocket and I'll get it in the end zone.

Speaker 5 And Marcus Allen gave one of the all-time greatest, you know, explanations of, you know, Marcus is looked at as one of the greatest score line runners in the history.

Speaker 5 And his whole thing was the same thing. All 22 guys were right here, you know, in the phone booth.
You just see that calm and color accelerate to crease.

Speaker 5 And, you know, if you remember Marcus's running style, I mean, it was you know just his forward lean and you know he couldn't be stopped so you know there's a lot of value i don't know why i'm talking about goal line defense but i just thought it i thought troy troy was having a good time with it on tv i was dying laughing because i i could imagine what was going through his head you know that's funny think of you actually going in uh whenever he was young days with the packers as we're building the goat resume that he's currently exists All right, Aaron.

Speaker 1 So in this touchdown situation for you where it's an easy pass potentially,

Speaker 1 you're just going to stand back here and we're gonna bring in

Speaker 1 somebody else is gonna take the snap and they're gonna score instead is that okay you're just gonna stand here yeah what am I just am I holding my ass Mike what am I doing back yeah just kind of don't pick your nose that's a penalty but just stand just stand right back there and do nothing and I'm sure that would have went swimmingly is what you're saying that's what it sounds glowingly

Speaker 1 high five don't go you go push Tomcraft for you

Speaker 1 yeah somebody Kuhn Kuhn's going to be there. You'll see him.
He'll take the snap, so you need to teach him how to do that, by the way. He can take some snaps from you.

Speaker 1 And then also, we need you to assist him to score the double.

Speaker 3 Don't be surprised, though, if that snap goes between Connor Hayward's legs one time and Aaron's sitting there with the ball in his hand ready to throw it.

Speaker 1 And he might even have his hands in the thing like he does. And then all of a sudden, Darnell Mount Washington sneaks out.
Just right out the entire snap. There you go.

Speaker 5 That'd be surprising. That might be the deceptive.
That might be the next call.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 dump it. We don't want to bury him.
Okay, that game, obviously, Steelers, Miami Dolphins, primetime game.

Speaker 1 And it was a good game for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Huge win for them.
Huge win for Coach Tomlin. Obviously, it's getting very loud for this team with all the expectations going in.

Speaker 1 They're still very much in it. Are they not number one in the North? Is what he said last week.

Speaker 1 They still are, and obviously have to beat Baltimore last game of the year to host a playoff game, which is crazy to think about. But on the other side, some changes were made after that game.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Coach, what do you think of the whole Tua situation? Obviously, we saw post-game.

Speaker 2 He was the last guy on the field yucking it up with Jalen Ramsey as they were essentially eliminated from the playoffs. And then yesterday he gets benched.

Speaker 2 Quinn Ewers is starting, and a lot of people are just assuming, okay, his time in Miami is done. They're going to eat whatever massive cap hit it takes, and he'll be gone.

Speaker 2 If you are the head coach or the quarterbacks coach or the play caller, like, how do you digest that whole situation?

Speaker 2 And also, when, when Tua does get another opportunity, because he was the fifth pick, do you think teams are going to view him as a starter or is he going to have to be kind of a reclamation project and be a backup for a few years here?

Speaker 5 Well, that's a great question, Ty.

Speaker 5 I think

Speaker 5 there's a number of things there.

Speaker 5 Number one, I'm not totally

Speaker 5 engaged with everything that's going on in Miami, but you do have a young guy and Quinn, and I've actually had a chance to spend some time with Quinn before the draft. So I'm excited for

Speaker 5 him personally. But yeah, I don't know if this is a, you know, you're out of the playoffs.
I think when you get to this point in the season,

Speaker 5 you haven't been there a lot of times, but there's a lot of things you got to talk about.

Speaker 5 you know particularly you know what what are you thinking in the future you know they don't have a gm so i i don't you know i think there's some there's some uh answers to your question that that probably can only come from inside so why exactly they're doing this uh we all understand his contract situation so you know that that that factors in you know more than people would probably want to omit so um i think you know hopefully it's just they want to give a young guy an opportunity to see what they got in Quinn to get more information as far as the whole overall quarterback position, because I'm a huge believer when you're developing the quarterbacks, you're developing the whole room, all three of those guys in the room.

Speaker 5 Personally, I wish they'd make you have four in the building and mandatory because, you know, it's the most important position in football, and the development of that position is critical.

Speaker 5 So, you know, I'm thinking they want to find out about Quinn and see and give him the opportunity. You know, I think it's definitely part of this too.

Speaker 5 So I'm not knowing exactly what the post-game and, you know, I wasn't aware of any of that so i don't know what all that plays into this if it's part of the decision but you know i think there's a lot you know there's a number of quarterback decisions around the league that that are being made you know obviously you know in washington you know you know resting um you know mahomes you know went down you know when you see that you know what's your offseason going to is going to look like too so when you're out of the playoffs um you know you you definitely want to go win the game.

Speaker 5 The fans are, you know, they're paying. That's important from the business perspective of it and so forth.
But there is a future outlook for some of these teams.

Speaker 5 And, you know, whether the coach and standing of the coach and GM, I know, is probably part of that. But, you know,

Speaker 5 when you're building a championship program, you do have to forecast some of those decisions. And how you go into the offseason, I think, is critical.

Speaker 5 So I think some of that plays into it too. But yeah,

Speaker 5 I'm not exactly, I think there's more to it in Miami. There usually is.
And those are really

Speaker 5 things that are going on internally.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you talk about looking at Quinn Ewers for the future. It's like GM already fired.
Is the head coach going to be there next year? I have no idea. Is he going to be down there with sunscreen?

Speaker 1 Maybe he gets a chance to see it. Yeah, maybe.
What, Quinn Ewers?

Speaker 1 We're not putting your name up for any jobs or forcing anybody out of any jobs, but it would be hilarious to see you back head coaching now that we know you much, much better.

Speaker 1 You know, much, much better. You in Miami would be incredible.

Speaker 1 Coach McDaniel is still down there. And obviously the team continue to fight for him, so we're not making any of those decisions.

Speaker 1 But I have, I don't know if you have done this, I have placed you in a couple of different spots.

Speaker 1 Just the thought of you going out there in that teal, bright red, I mean, in Miami, you would be, you'd be that guy right behind you with your daughters there. Just sun red out there.
Yes, sun hat.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, we need it. We need it.
No, McDaniel, we like him. Whatever happens in the future, but we appreciate the hell out of you, coach.
Enjoy the hell out of the weekend.

Speaker 1 Great ball tonight. College football playoffs tomorrow night.
Alabama, Oklahoma. Any thoughts on these?

Speaker 5 Just looking forward to watching it.

Speaker 5 I don't want to upset any of these calls today.

Speaker 5 I think this college, this national, this national championship brackets, I just love what they've done. So

Speaker 5 these games are so exciting. And no, I'm just looking forward to sitting down and being a fan.

Speaker 1 All right. We'll be on ESPN2 noon on Saturday, calling Texas AM,

Speaker 1 Miami from the sideline. Hopefully you enjoy.
And we would like text messages if you see anything for anybody so we can sound smarter. We won't give you credit, but we will steal your shit.

Speaker 1 You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Coach. Thank you, Coach.
He's the man. Dude, it is fun placing him now.

Speaker 1 I feel like I haven't done that enough. Oh, you should.
Have him in Miami. Just first training camp.
It's 115 degrees, 400% humidity. And he's just drenching.

Speaker 1 We've got a fast team. We're going to work hard today.
That's a bad idea. This is a bad idea, man.

Speaker 1 There's Irish Inser in Miami. That'd be Italian Inser went down there and did pretty good.
Gay Damarino. Yeah, you're right.
Maybe you need the Irish to go down there.

Speaker 3 A lot of Italian Inser is going down in Miami.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of Italians in general that head down that way. Okay, and a lot of Irish head down that way, too.
They all seemingly have similar jobs, but

Speaker 3 trash

Speaker 1 amongst other things. Construction, sanitation, sanitation, please.
That's also concrete.

Speaker 1 Funny Frank's still living in Plum.

Speaker 1 Football is magical. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it tonight.

Speaker 1 Week 16 of the NFL season kicks off in a huge way, and tomorrow, the college football playoff, the second ever 12-team college football playoff, kicks off on a Friday night in Oklahoma as Alabama will travel to take on Matir Invenables in an entire sooner nation,

Speaker 1 ready to deliver an epic environment as Alabama is underdogs, as Oklahoma favored by a point and a half at home. Let's go to one half of the hammer.

Speaker 1 Cowboys AP Tone. What are the numbers saying for this particular game here, Tone? And what's the percentage of bets on who?

Speaker 1 I naturally assume that more people will just say, give me Alabama just because it's Alabama.

Speaker 1 Alabama, I think there's some sort of stat line that's out there about something about since 1860 or something, they haven't done something and lose in some sort.

Speaker 1 But obviously this is Deboer's Alabama. This is not Sabin's Alabama.
This is a massive one for DeBoer, Ty Simpson, and Alabama. And for Venables, he's been waiting for this in Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 I mean, Vennables was brought in from Clemson as the defensive guru that led that Clemson team in fantastic fashion. He gets to Oklahoma.
They have a little bit of a run, then a little bit of a lull.

Speaker 1 Texas goes on their big run. And then all of a sudden, Oklahoma is kicking off the college football playoff with a Venables defense that's going to hunt.
I mean, they are going to hunt.

Speaker 1 They are going to look awesome.

Speaker 1 Is Batir in Arbuckle in the offense that we saw earlier in the year, then a little bit at the end of the year, to show up in the biggest moment and continue this magical run?

Speaker 1 Or will Alabama and Ty Simpson, who had a tough road throughout the middle of this season and got to this point? Will they continue their journey to a national championship in the post-Saban era?

Speaker 1 It's a huge one to kick off this college football playoff tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a ginormous one. I think the line kind of reflects how I feel about this one as a coin flip, but you're going to get the favorite because of the home and the home field advantage.

Speaker 3 These two teams played, what was that, three, four weeks ago?

Speaker 1 In Alabama. Yeah, in Alabama.

Speaker 3 alabama oklahoma won 23 21 but bama outgame them by 200 yards it was kind of the story of turnovers that oklahoma defense was getting sacks turnovers they had an interception return for a touchdown but like

Speaker 3 So Ty Simpson has five interceptions, I believe, on the season. Four of those have come in the last four weeks.

Speaker 3 So it's, and there's, you know, there's internet rumors about his health and stuff like that. Alabama can't run the ball.

Speaker 3 And then the other side, the Oklahoma offense, the second half of the year has been shit, too.

Speaker 3 But like these three weeks off for both of these teams, like what are the, are they going to, are these teams going to turn back to what they were at the beginning of the year where Alabama won five straight against ranked teams or four straight against ranked teams and Oklahoma's offense beginning of the season with Matir was unbelievable before it hurt his thumb.

Speaker 3 It's yeah, it's an incredible. It's a coin flip for me.
You talked about Venables. He was kind of on the hot seat before this season.
He is not anymore.

Speaker 1 He's a dog, by the way. He's got.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
He's got...

Speaker 1 The vascularity. Yeah, he's still in there.
I think he's still in there moving.

Speaker 2 He always has a raspy voice, no matter what.

Speaker 1 I think their SID, the guy that controls like his press appearance, is like the hardest in the country to work with. Okay.

Speaker 1 And by hardest, I mean like keeps him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, biggest nightmare. Just like, no, no.

Speaker 1 That's what I heard through the Reddit pages that I was reading. They would spin it into a positive way, though.

Speaker 2 He wants coach focus on balls.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just kind of keep it out there. I don't think a lot of access to Venables has ever been a thing.
I don't think that is something.

Speaker 1 Every time he comes on game day, though, the way he's on the show and then how he interacts with everybody in between feels like he's a dude.

Speaker 1 Like Venables is a guy, is a dude that you would want to hang around, even though we don't know much about him because he's not really out there as much.

Speaker 1 But him getting his team to be able to play this way and then bringing in Arbuckle and Matir together to kind of flip the offensive side and catch up, that was a magical story at the beginning of this year.

Speaker 1 Matir was going to win the Heisman, and then obviously he hurts his thumb. Then he comes back early, maybe against Texas, everybody was saying, in the offense, kind of slow start.

Speaker 1 Three weeks to reset that, get healthy, and also go back and maybe do some self-scout. Maybe they're back to being.
that special offense and dynamic offense.

Speaker 1 And then for Alabama, Ty Simpson talked about injuries late down the season. Three weeks is a long time to get healthy.
Like that's a long time, especially for these young men to get feeling better.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to see the best out of both of these teams. And this is what it's all about.
Starting with 12, going down to one. Boom.
It's about who's going to become CFP national.

Speaker 1 Champion.

Speaker 3 If this one comes down to a kick, as you know, Oklahoma's kicker Tate Sandell, I believe was 23 of 24 in the season with a long of 55.

Speaker 1 I believe he either.

Speaker 3 He was either a finalist or one best kicker in the country.

Speaker 1 Those awards mean nothing because they do it via Zoom. We hate that.
What are we doing? College football is the second largest sport in America behind the NFL.

Speaker 1 I don't know why we wouldn't treat it as such. The NFL shuts down an entire city for their award shows.
College football does Zoom calls. So I don't know how that's a thing.
We should know that.

Speaker 1 That should be a celebrated thing. That's on me.
And that's a huge moment for him if he did win that.

Speaker 3 It was either him or the kid from Hawaii. I can't remember what.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 the man from Hawaii. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Japanese guy who learned through YouTube on how to kick and then turns a dream and a career, not a career, but yeah, maybe a career in this entire thing.

Speaker 1 It's a beautiful American dream story happening out there in Hawaii for the kicker. Yeah, the Tokyo Toe Kansai Matsuzawa.

Speaker 1 And the most prestigious trophy for the best college kicker in the country is in the Luke Rose Award given annually was to Tate. Yeah.
Yeah. Tate

Speaker 1 comes down to a huge. It's a huge moment, by the way, for this kid's life that he won that.

Speaker 1 Have you seen a clip of it or anything? No, no, no, no, absolutely not. And I sure would see that, right? Because we're in college football and kicking.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 I would assume so.

Speaker 1 Are we sure that's real? But Tate's good. True.
Tate is good. Yeah.
Tate is good. And now, will he be good?

Speaker 3 He's got short pants.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he said also, hey, that

Speaker 1 it was a little shorter than I thought. He did have a little bit of a rip.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, rider cup winner.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk.

Speaker 1 Locker to CFP kicks off tomorrow night. Obviously, gigantic stuff.
Friday night kickoff. I like that.
Heading into a great weekend.

Speaker 7 I think it's great. I think we missed an opportunity there.
You could have played the nice jingle for coach Mike McCarthy. I think he would really enjoy that.
I doubt that he has seen that yet.

Speaker 1 Well, we'll make sure he knows what that's all about next week. You're right.
That'll be our Christmas gift to him, maybe, and we'll put him full screen as we play it and just kind of see this.

Speaker 7 What are we doing? What is it?

Speaker 1 We still live? Is this your song?

Speaker 1 Am I on the screen right now?

Speaker 1 What's going on here? Cartoon characters singing bass.

Speaker 1 Those don't look like football fans.

Speaker 1 Average prices of the tickets here from our friends at SeatGeek,

Speaker 1 Miami, AM,

Speaker 1 down there at Kyle Field, biggest game in history, $745.

Speaker 1 Tulane Olemis, $433.

Speaker 1 Alabama, Oklahoma to kickoff CFP, $450. JMU, Oregon out there in Autson, $304.

Speaker 1 So obviously, there is a demand to get into these buildings. And this is what we love about the college football experience, is the environment.

Speaker 1 We wish that there would be second-round round home field advantages as well, because obviously a game down here in Bloomington or a game in Athens or a game in Columbus or a game in Lubbock would be gigantic in the second round and be very special.

Speaker 1 But at some point, I guess they decided that, no, only the teams that weren't the best in the country get home field advantage. And then we have to move it on to keep corporate sponsors happy.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, we'll be able to change that going. going forward and we'll still be able to hit all the New Year six rotating bases for the next round.
But it's a special weekend.

Speaker 1 We're lucky to be a part of it. What's the Montana, Montana State ticket that's happening out there for the FCS?

Speaker 3 So semifinals, FCS, Montana, Montana State, they played earlier this season. They were one versus two.
It was a three-point game. They're back in the semifinals.
Zeke was looking it up.

Speaker 3 He said the cheapest ticket he could find to get to that game was over $400.

Speaker 1 It's going to be an awesome environment. Wow, Montana, Montana State.
A bunch of people, obviously, that thought we should go out there for game day. Just know we agreed with you.

Speaker 1 JMU had a weekend earlier in the season where that same weekend where they should have potentially had it. We agreed with you.
We thought it.

Speaker 1 I think there was a conversation like because of JMU's schedule, not by us, because of JMU's schedule, there's no chance, I believe is what the words were. Yeah, quote-unquote.

Speaker 1 Just because I asked questions. So all of the college football fans that get mad about where game day ends up, once again, would like to reiterate.

Speaker 1 Lucky to be a part of the institution and have been part here for the last few years of an institution that people are excited that your show and that your thing is coming to their game.

Speaker 1 That's a cool thing. Always will be a cool thing for College Game Day.
I hope the people that run College Game Day understand that that's a thing. And

Speaker 1 it feels like some of them maybe don't, but not, you know. not at the game day world, but in the ESPN world as a whole.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, it's this is, we're very lucky that this is viewed this way and treated this way.

Speaker 1 Obviously, it's been earned over a long, long time of putting on great shows and everything and celebrating the second largest sport in America behind the NFL.

Speaker 1 But like I also ask questions, have no say. I think it's well documented that I'm pretty low in the totem poll over there.
Have no say in the entire thing.

Speaker 1 So whenever some of these decisions are made and I just go, what? Why? Why? We were just there. They had 40,000 people for us.
The entire, why would we not want to do that?

Speaker 1 Well, there's no chance they make the college football playoff with their schedule.

Speaker 1 So we'd basically be kind of just showcasing something that is only going to make more people upset because there's no chance they're going to make the playoff. Well, look out.

Speaker 1 JMU is currently in a college football playoff, right? They're currently in it.

Speaker 1 So whoever said that should probably look in the mirror and think to themselves, maybe I should just have a brain every once in a while.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, Tulane, I don't think there was ever a thought to go down there. But Montana, Montana State, definitely a conversation to go out there.
Wanted to know

Speaker 1 why the brawl of the wild, I believe is what it's called. It's a special environment.
We got a chance to go out there in a negative 14-degree. The entire state came out for us.

Speaker 1 And it was a special thing. So just know that we ask the same questions everybody else does.
Oh, yeah. And Stanford Steve is the one that's making all the decisions.

Speaker 1 Stanford Steve's the one making the decisions. But we do know college game day tomorrow night.
College game day Saturday morning. field pass on espn2 texas a m on miami we cannot wait to call that

Speaker 1 i don't give anything away don't like go behind the curtain too much break the fourth wall sure

Speaker 1 we got a chance to speak with both coach elco and coach crystal ball about things that they won't tell just the media because we are calling the game and uh We got a little bit of a production access to these guys.

Speaker 1 Really kicked back and relaxed. Got to get to know the real them yesterday.
That was an awesome experience yesterday, AJ. Truly, That's the first time we've gotten to do this.

Speaker 1 We reach out directly to the coaches and to the people at the schools. They were both like, absolutely.
They would much rather do that than any of the other stuff that they have to do.

Speaker 1 It's like we only need four or five minutes, six minutes.

Speaker 2 Eight, nine, ten.

Speaker 1 17. We have 20 minutes.
Once we get them in there, we think they'll have a good time. If they're not having a good time, we'll send them the hell out of there.
But they...

Speaker 1 They were very good with us, I think, AJ. And that was very productive for us, I think, as we try to call this game on Saturday and do it justice.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it was very productive. I mean, thanks to you, obviously, you have a way of making these guys feel,

Speaker 7 I guess, at ease and comfortable, and they trust you. And you have a relationship with them beforehand.

Speaker 7 But, I mean, I've been in plenty of production meetings where you don't get anything, where they are tight-lipped, giving you like the coach speak.

Speaker 7 So, the fact that they were so open and cool about it, and they both seem like they just seem super excited. They just couldn't wait for the game to get here, I feel like.

Speaker 7 They're just they're ready to go.

Speaker 1 Thankful gratitude for being in the game. Like, if it genuinely felt like, and I think they view us as just football dudes.

Speaker 1 So, like, whenever we're talking about them, it's just like, hey, explain the situation to them about us calling these games.

Speaker 1 We have no idea if it's a three-yard gain or a four-yard loss from where we're standing, but it would be cool to at least get a heads up on how you're viewing so we can kind of call and talk about it as it's happening.

Speaker 1 Like, I think other people that call games get to do that. We were wondering if we could do the same thing, and they were like, Absolutely, here you go.

Speaker 1 And then, there was even a couple, when you see this, we're doing this. Whenever you see this, we're trying this.
It's like we would have never had that in the past.

Speaker 1 What a weapon that is for us going into this game.

Speaker 1 But what I got from both these coaches, they both obviously love their teams, but also, they feel very good about how their teams feel going into this game.

Speaker 1 Like, it's very much a like, hey, let's go do this thing as opposed to like, hey, let's feel it out. It feels like they are both very much going for it here.

Speaker 1 And it's going to be, fire, I think we should expect. the best of all parties in this particular game with the way the messaging is coming.
Yeah, by all means, this should be a night game.

Speaker 1 This is the best game of the first round. You can make that argument.
I think the price kind of reflects that. It's so awesome that this is the noon game.

Speaker 1 And yeah, the NFL being on Saturday probably doesn't help it as much. But both the school's first time in the college football playoff, right? I mean, this is historic for both sides.

Speaker 1 And it does feel like that is, at least came through when talking to him, like how much this means, not just to the teams, but to the universities, to the cities, to the towns that they are in.

Speaker 1 Like, this is a monumental moment for both of these plays. And it also did feel as if the coaches and players knew they were representing their people.
Like, it was cool.

Speaker 1 It was like a very genuine, cool conversation about how confident they are in their team, how much they like their team. Here's some stuff that we're going to do.

Speaker 1 Obviously, we can't talk about until it starts happening on why it's happening.

Speaker 1 And we had to, obviously, we're in the football world, so we don't want to give away any strategy from anybody or anything like that. But just like the genuine.

Speaker 1 um excitement it felt like from both sides about the opportunity was cool like even listening to coach christobal talk about uh traveling and playing at collfield yeah he's like hey i i've been there with alabama uh we went up to ohio state obviously got a chance to experience that uh fiu we played, went to AM.

Speaker 1 Hey, played there.

Speaker 2 He was like, so I was at Oregon. He had a bunch of big games like that.

Speaker 1 And he said, he talked about how pumped he is for his team to experience it because it is a different animal. Yeah.
Like he is like respecting it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was like a very respectful. It was, it was cool to kind of hear it all.
Joining us now is a man who's obviously no stranger to huge games and also no stranger to huge games at Cal Field.

Speaker 1 Joining us now, the greatest college football coach of all time, new owner

Speaker 1 of the Nashville Prairies. Wow, ladies and gentlemen, Nick Saban.
Yay, coach.

Speaker 1 How are you doing, coach?

Speaker 6 I'm doing great. How are you guys doing?

Speaker 1 What are you selling Toyotas now? I see that shit sitting right over your head. I thought you were a Ferrari and uh Lambo guy.
I didn't know you're a Toyota-thon guy. You're moving Toyotas, too.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I had to do this in the store today because I had some meetings this afternoon. So

Speaker 6 they set it up for me and we're here and not trying to advertise anything.

Speaker 1 No, of course not. No, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it doesn't look like it at all. There you go.
Doesn't look like I've got Alexis here if you need it. Shit.
We got you the best thing you could possibly need for a stocking stuff.

Speaker 1 We've got a Toyota thon little elf here. You can buy.
Where is this Toyota located out here, Coach Saban?

Speaker 6 This one's in Montgomery, Alabama.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, if I ever need anything, I know I'm coming to Toyota right down there in Montgomery, Alabama.

Speaker 1 Coach Sabin, Coach Gresty, and all the boys there will take care of you and get you everything you need. Let's talk about you being an owner of the Smashville Predators.

Speaker 1 Listen, you're a completely defeated NHL owner. Got their asses beat four to one.
L, L, L

Speaker 1 with your ownership. But tell me how you got into this and how much do you know about hockey? And what is your planned presence for the Nashville Predators going forward?

Speaker 1 Because I got a lot of friends in Nashville that basically, as soon as they saw this announcement, were like, Saban's coaching the Predators?

Speaker 1 We're winning this thing. What is it? What is the expectation? And how did you get to this? Congratulations.
We love hockey year.

Speaker 6 Yeah, well, it was an opportunity

Speaker 6 for me, really, with Mr. Haslam, Bill Haslam, who we talked about some sports franchise opportunities in the future.
And this was the first one that came up. I love hockey.

Speaker 6 I think hockey is a great investment.

Speaker 6 You know, they have a salary cap.

Speaker 6 It's a growing sport. I think there's a lot of interest in the sport.
And Nashville is a great city. We have businesses there.
So, you know, I'm kind of a fan and,

Speaker 6 you know, look forward to being a part of the team, which I think they have the structure there to, you know, rebuild this team. I'm excited about being a part of it.

Speaker 6 And, you know, I don't know enough about hockey to really coach anybody how to play it, but I know enough about successful organizations that, you know, hopefully can contribute something to the organization in a positive way.

Speaker 1 I don't like to hear that. So you're actually going to do stuff here? You're not just going to stay away from the building? Because the Pittsburgh Penguins Penguins just sold too.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you've already signed. We'd love to have you in Pittsburgh.
We'll certainly give you a better deal than whatever the Predators did.

Speaker 1 So you just kind of give me a heads up on that if you want me to stop mentioning that right now or now?

Speaker 1 Has the ink dried?

Speaker 6 Well, you know, I went to a Predators game in the playoffs several years ago, and the Penguins were actually playing the Predators in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 And I had a Predators jersey on trying to promote our Nashville businesses. And I got about 1,000 negative emails from my people back in West Virginia who were Penguins fans.

Speaker 6 So I got my ass kicked on that one.

Speaker 1 Good. I hope you get more this time because we were just for sale.
You could have bought the whole damn thing potentially.

Speaker 1 No, we love to see you continuing to get in the sports world and give back to the sports world. The predators are very lucky.

Speaker 1 The city of Nashville knows and appreciates you becoming more of a part of it. It's a great thing.
I love you're a part of hockey, coach. We love hockey around here.

Speaker 1 And to your point, up and to the right. And go Preds going forward.
Go Preds going forward. But the Penguins are about to beat that ass, Saban, whenever they have to.

Speaker 1 And that's a good thing about hockey. Let's talk about football now.
Let's talk a little bit about college ball. This weekend is obviously huge.
CFP is kicking off.

Speaker 1 Tomorrow night, Friday night, Alabama, Oklahoma. Very close to home to you.
And obviously, Oklahoma came into Alabama just about a month ago and got a win.

Speaker 1 Tone has a question for you about what we think is obviously the X factor of the entire game.

Speaker 3 Yeah, coach, you've obviously had to go up against Coach Venables in your time in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 Now that Alabama has seen him once this season and they're going to have to see that defense again for a second time, is that a good thing for Ty Simpson in the Alabama offense and what makes going up against Brent Venables so hard?

Speaker 6 Well, I think, you know, the pressure package that they have, and I think that was the big difference in the first game.

Speaker 6 You know, when you watch the game, when they got their pressures blocked up, they made a lot of explosive plays. I'm talking about Alabama.

Speaker 6 But when they didn't, it was devastating in terms of sack fumbles, pick sixes,

Speaker 6 sacks that led to stop and drives. So it was like feast or famine, you know, in the game.
So how they can execute against the pressures to me is the most important thing because

Speaker 6 If you can get to the back end of Oklahoma's defense, I think you got a chance to make plays, which was evident in the first game.

Speaker 6 I mean, Alabama had over 400 yards versus Oklahoma's 200, but three turnovers, all in negative field position that led to 17 points, you know, helped Oklahoma tremendously in the game.

Speaker 6 And you can't have those kind of plays. If you have those kind of plays, Oklahoma will be successful.
That's how they win.

Speaker 6 They've not scored a lot of points. Their defense is outstanding, and they thrive on making plays in the game that are going to impact the game.
And they did it to Alabama a month ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they did, Coach. Yeah, and Alabama, Ty Simpson, has five turnovers or five interceptions on the season, Four of them come in the final four weeks.
That three-week layoff.

Speaker 1 Is there a way to fix that? Or is that just something that's going to come with games down the stretch whenever you're trying to take a shot?

Speaker 6 Well, I really do think that some of the issues that have been created on Alabama's offense come from

Speaker 6 the fact that there's more pressure, more sacks.

Speaker 6 They've been able to affect the quarterback, which led to the four interceptions that you're talking about. But Ty's very capable, but I've always said this.

Speaker 6 Quarterback's a hard place, a hard position to play, maybe the hardest position in sports if the people around you don't play well.

Speaker 6 So their ability to run the ball, their ability to protect, pick up pressures, the offensive line needs to play a little more consistently. That'll help the quarterback.

Speaker 6 And if they can do that, I think Ty is very capable of getting back to where he was somewhere in the middle of the season when he was playing outstanding.

Speaker 1 We're obviously hoping for the best out of everybody, Matir included in Oklahoma, whenever he started this season. It was, wow, I can't believe this guy is as good a football player as he is.

Speaker 1 He gets hurt. They weren't able to find their rhythm yet again afterwards, but starting to find it towards the end of the season, will the three-week layoff help them?

Speaker 1 Now, let's move to Saturday as we travel from Oklahoma on Friday to College Station late Friday night. Go ahead, AJ.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Coach, we will be on the field for the, you know, Miami taking on Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 7 I guess what should people be watching, say the first half, like what should we be paying attention to to kind of see, or what are you going to be paying attention to early in that game to see how it's playing out?

Speaker 6 Well, I think two things are very interesting in this game, and it's the style that both teams play defense. You know, Miami has got really talented front guys.

Speaker 6 I mean, they dominate the line of scrimmage. They rush for guys most of the time.
These guys make a lot of negative plays by how aggressive and physical they are.

Speaker 6 I think Jason Taylor's done a fantastic job of coaching these guys up front.

Speaker 6 And then you go on the A ⁇ M side of it. They're not as big.
They're very athletic. They can run.
And they rely on different kinds of pressures and slants to give you negative plays.

Speaker 6 And if A ⁇ M gets you in third down, they are lethal, man.

Speaker 6 They've got a great third down package where they create a lot of pressures, a lot of overload type simulated pressures that give people problems.

Speaker 6 So this is going to be the tale of, you know, like, how does this game go?

Speaker 6 If Miami can control the line of scrimmage and eliminate the negative plays and stay out of third down long situations, I think they'll have success against A ⁇ M.

Speaker 6 If, on the other hand,

Speaker 6 you know, AM can't block this front and they affect the quarterback, although I think Marcel Reed is an outstanding player.

Speaker 6 Not only do they have to affect him, they have to keep him from running, which you see them doing right here. And this guy can throw it.
They've got good skill guys.

Speaker 6 So this is going to be a real challenge. I think this is going to be one of the best games of this early playoff season, man.

Speaker 6 I'm looking forward to this game because both of these teams, to me, are very, very good good football teams and and play different styles and it'll be interesting to see which style physical Miami team versus

Speaker 1 a very skilled fast aggressive A ⁇ M team I know you have relationships with every coach around the country yesterday we had the chance to catch up with coach Cristobal and Coach Elko and you talked about this being one of the best games here of obviously this early but the entire year it sounds like like the way they're talking about it the excitement that their entire team feels as opposed to nerves and anxiety what we heard through the coaches and through the locker room is like excitement and honor for the opportunity almost from both sides and anytime you have that i think you got teams that are going to show up in a big way how much does the kyle field you think play an effect in this entire game especially with that texas a m defense that can get after the quarterback especially with how loud that place could be you played in some monster games there you've talked about it before both whenever we were down there for game day and on this show but them hosting a college football playoff game i think is good for college football for people that maybe haven't watched college ball all year.

Speaker 1 You tune into this game and it's like, holy hell, this place is one of the greatest fan places in the world, maybe. Coach Saban, is that the way to describe that?

Speaker 6 I don't think there's any question about it. You know, I did more complaining to the SEC office.
It was more than complaining that I don't really want to say on this show.

Speaker 6 About this is the noisiest place. Plus, they pipe in noise.
Whoa!

Speaker 6 They pipe in noise.

Speaker 6 I mean, and you can't hear yourself think it when you're playing out there and it is a huge advantage when they play at home, especially for their defense, especially getting off the spot.

Speaker 6 Makes it really difficult for the offensive line.

Speaker 6 But the one thing that I think Miami can get under center and they can run the ball, that might be helpful to be able to settle them down from a noise standpoint.

Speaker 6 But if you have to go on silent count,

Speaker 6 in this game, which you probably will, especially if you're into gun, it's going to be a huge advantage for A AM's defense.

Speaker 1 Psyche, I mean, come on. Have you been there? There's no way that's just human voices.
They got to be, they got to be piping in.

Speaker 1 I think they take a lot of pride in that, obviously, down there, as being a fan base that knows when to yell, knows how to yell, and they have yell leaders. It's not cheerleaders.
We got yell leaders.

Speaker 1 Like they are promoting it from the day they get on campus. We're heading to that midnight yell the night before, Coach.

Speaker 1 If you want to come with us, it's going to be late after, obviously, the Oklahoma game day, whenever we travel down there.

Speaker 1 They have a pep rally basically at midnight before every single home game that 50,000 people show up to.

Speaker 1 It's like, you're talking about commitment and being on display for the world here, opening college football playoff weekend. I think we got it right here, Coach.
Legit, I think we got it right. But

Speaker 6 I have a tremendous amount of respect. Even when I was coaching and happened to go play there,

Speaker 6 the traditions that they have at Texas A ⁇ M and the spirit that they have at Texas A ⁇ M,

Speaker 6 it's unique and special, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for it. It almost reminds me of, you know, like coaching at the Naval Academy, where they have this tremendous prod.

Speaker 6 And, you know, you see that in the Army-Navy game, but they have that at AM, too. It's something different.
It's something special. They're loud, man.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to be on that sideline. I didn't even think about us not even being able to hear the whole thing.
Yeah, hear me off. Yeah, I'd see.
I thought that was.

Speaker 6 I'd like to know, I'd like to get your guys' opinion. Are you taking the crew there? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Crew.

Speaker 6 So you tell me after this game if they're piping in noise or not.

Speaker 1 I'll pay attention. Yeah, we will certainly be snooping it out.
Okay, let's talk about the other two games happening on TNT and True TV. Go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 2 Yeah, coach, you've talked about rap poison, you know, so many times with us for these two particular games where we've had 21 days where basically everyone has said, hey, Olemis is going to beat the shit out of Tulane and Oregon's going to beat the shit out of JMU.

Speaker 2 There is no way that these guys can win. win.
If you're the coach of either one of those teams, how do you address that? Because obviously it's not just another game. It's the playoffs now.

Speaker 2 And are you assuming that these guys will be able to handle it, Pete Golding and Dan Lanning, pretty fine because they both come from your coaching tree?

Speaker 6 Well, you know, I just this morning watched the first Tulane O-Miss game. And, you know, the game really was like 23 to 3, maybe,

Speaker 6 late in the third quarter, and Tulane got stopped three times on fourth down and short. Fourth and one, fourth and two, fourth and three, fourth and five at the five-yard line.

Speaker 6 So the game could have been a little closer than it was. I think the issue for Tulane is

Speaker 6 offensively, they move the ball against Ole Miss. But man, they just could not stop Ole Miss's offense, and I think that's going to be a huge problem for him in this game.
My approach...

Speaker 6 to games like this was I used to tell players all the time is, look,

Speaker 6 you're supposed to be playing to your standard, to your ability. When I was in the NFL, they gave me a cut up.
I didn't know who you were playing, what the score was.

Speaker 6 So your challenge is to play your best all the time because that's what you're going to get evaluated on. You want to play in the league someday? They're going to look at this film.

Speaker 6 You're going to play relative to the guy you're playing against, or are you going to play the way you're capable of? And that's the way we try to get guys to think about it.

Speaker 6 So they control what they do and they control the standard that they play to. And that's what I challenge them to do.

Speaker 6 and when you're into playoffs like this you want to gain momentum and to gain momentum you got to earn momentum so you got to play well make good plays play together as a group and that's what I used to try to you know emphasize to our guys so that you know we would gain some momentum so you're going to have a tough game the next game you know that Dan Lanning is definitely selling everything about Indiana having JMU kids and coming in there and winning and then this show yeah even coach Saban there was a couple times last week where some people on this show were like you know what Jamie JMU wins games.

Speaker 1 I like them. Maybe they go in there, especially with what happened last year with Oregon and the Rose Bowl at Ohio State.

Speaker 1 Some people on this show were kind of feeding rat poison towards JMU's side almost as opposed to Oregon's side in its entirety.

Speaker 1 We know Landing will have the boys ready to go, but JMU could obviously do something special. In the history of the college football playoffs or college football

Speaker 1 postseason, large spreads have not boded well for the teams that are receiving the points. They haven't won, but they have covered, seemingly.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So highest point spreads in college football playoff history. Obviously 21 is the biggest against James Madison.

Speaker 1 In 2020, the semifinal, Alabama, you remember this, Coach, 19 and a half point favorites against Notre Dame. They won.
Pretty good, too. Didn't cover.
One by 17. Yikes.

Speaker 1 Had people pissed off at your ass, Coach Saban. Then obviously all missed two lanes in there.
And then 2018, Alabama, they were favored by 15 against Oklahoma. You remember this one, Coach?

Speaker 1 They won by two scores. Jeez.
Didn't cover though, only one by 11. So had a lot of people pissed off.
So I I think what the stats are saying, massive spreads in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Certainly the winners are going to win, but that's a little bit too much of a projection. Is that because maybe things are a little bit tighter regardless because it's playoffs?

Speaker 1 Maybe, or what do you think it is why sports books maybe overshoot it?

Speaker 1 And how did you feel as a coach who probably had to hear from some people, even though you win by 17, couldn't win by 24, bub, like that in this entire thing? thing.

Speaker 1 What are your kind of thoughts on the projections of a game versus maybe the outcome, especially whenever it's playoffs and who knows what it could be be like?

Speaker 6 Well, there's one thing I've learned a lot from you, Pat. I got to admit that over the last, you know, year and a half, two football seasons.
And I learned something today.

Speaker 6 I never paid attention to the spread, but I would have enhanced my legacy a lot better if I would have tried to cover some of these spreads.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yep.
Because you pissed us off. We got Saban playing? Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 They're definitely going to cover. And then wins by 17 said in 19 and a half.
This fucking asshole. This guy ain't got it.
This guy ain't got it anymore. Can't get the boys to rally.

Speaker 1 Can't even cover out there. But yes, it is something that is interesting.
And obviously the expectations.

Speaker 6 Go ahead. One thing I hated, though, was when we were heavy favorites in a game, because I think sometimes players think that game is going to be easy.
And these games are never easy.

Speaker 6 I mean, I don't care who you're playing, when you're playing.

Speaker 6 Anybody's capable of eating anybody. But I do think the bigger spreads come because

Speaker 6 the big people can dominate the game.

Speaker 6 When the big people can dominate the game, which is going to be the issue for Tulane, especially their defense, it's going to be the issue for JMU, who relies on running the ball.

Speaker 6 And if they can't run the ball and use the quarterback run game, I don't think they can throw it well enough to generate enough offense.

Speaker 6 So when you have the big people dominating the game, I think that's when you get the big spreads. That's just my opinion.

Speaker 6 And I think that in most of these games, other than these two games, you're going to have big people that are pretty well matched, and that's going to make for some great games.

Speaker 1 Well, I think it goes back to the point of like there's weight classes in every physical sport.

Speaker 1 Like there is any physical sport, there's always weight classes because there's advantages to having more meat and everything like that.

Speaker 1 Whenever you think about a JMU roster versus an Oregon roster, I mean, any big name, but Oregon, more specifically, with everything that we know about Oregon, it's like you would assume in the trenches there is going to be quite a weight differential that could potentially cause a problem in a sport that involves physicality between the two people.

Speaker 1 But JMU, low man, good leverage, technique, you know, sport, oh, I tell you, he got a chance of loads to the ball, you know, being able to sacrifice for a teammate.

Speaker 1 There's all those things that can come together on any given Saturday, Thursday, Friday.

Speaker 6 But here's my thing about this. I mean,

Speaker 5 look,

Speaker 6 would we allow

Speaker 6 the winner of the AAA Baseball League, the International League, whatever they call it? I don't even know the name of it. Would you let them in the World Series playoffs?

Speaker 1 I don't think they do.

Speaker 6 No, they don't, but I'm saying, but that's the equivalent of what we do when JMU gets in to the college football playoff and Notre Dame doesn't.

Speaker 6 I mean,

Speaker 6 I don't want to start any shit here, but it is what it is.

Speaker 1 Coach, you're adding your name onto a long list of people now because the one, the one

Speaker 1 power five team getting in and taking one of the 12 spots everybody was like good for ball

Speaker 1 that's good for ball we like that yeah give anybody a chance you know now granted if the one power five team makes it into the college football playoff as one of the final 12 teams that entire team is probably getting poached to somewhere else immediately after the season anyways but we still thought it was good for ball the fact that two of them made it in this year i think has made everybody go this is not what we signed up for this is this is not what it was at all so we assume change will come.

Speaker 1 Don't you think it feels like it's getting loud?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I hope so. I hope we learn each year from this how we can make it better.

Speaker 1 The ACC not having a champ that could be in the top 50 ranked is just really threw an entire wrench into it. But we needed it to happen, right? And we need these games to happen this weekend.

Speaker 1 Because if Tulane goes ahead and smacks Coach Golden in the mouth down there in Oxford, and then JMU travels to Otson and smacks Lanning in the mouth. This entire conversation's null and void.

Speaker 1 But boy, if Ole Miss wins by 30 and Oregon wins by 30, it is going to get real loud and maybe change will happen afterwards.

Speaker 3 Just so everyone knows, moving forward, you know how we've talked a lot about the Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 If they're in the top 12, they're automatically in the playoffs moving forward because of the deal they signed.

Speaker 3 Also, if you're a Power 4 conference and you win your conference, you're in moving forward. Like Duke would have been, if this was next year, Duke would have been in.

Speaker 1 And is that with a 16 team, Brad, or 12? 12, I believe. Okay, interesting.
So I'm fascinated to see how it all goes.

Speaker 6 We're going to make it better.

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 7 Get them all. They do what,

Speaker 6 you know, to me, if you're not in the 15 top 15, I don't care what league you play in,

Speaker 6 you shouldn't be in the playoffs. JMU, whoever it is.

Speaker 6 If you're not in the top 15, power group of five, it doesn't matter because you're taking somebody out of the playoffs that deserve to be in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 So you can think about it one way where we're letting somebody from the group of five in, but you're also taking somebody

Speaker 6 that should be in out. And that's not fair.
That was my whole point about would we let the AAA baseball team who wins their league play for the World Series? Doesn't happen. It's a different league.

Speaker 6 These guys ought to have their own playoff.

Speaker 1 It's all about money.

Speaker 6 Just give them the money. Well, each school gets $4 million for playing in the first round.
Is that right?

Speaker 1 I think so, yes.

Speaker 6 Give them $4 million and put Notre Dame in. You want to see Notre Dame and Oregon play?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 Texas Ole Miss. Hell yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Hell yeah, we do. Hell yeah, we do.
Hey, let's move some more Toyotas and maybe we pay them ourselves, Coach Sam.

Speaker 1 You know, let's maybe get the Predators back into the Stanley Cup finals and maybe we do that. But I think, Coach, I think there's going to be a lot of change this offseason, just like there was last.

Speaker 1 Remember, it was the four highest-ranked champions. We're definitely the ones.
Now it's just the top four ranked teams are in there. I think they are trying to massage it and fix it.

Speaker 1 The ACC champion not being in certainly was not expected whenever they made these rules. So who knows how it goes.
But once again, we'll find out on the field.

Speaker 1 We'll find out on the field what happens. But when it goes down, how it's probably going to go down, everybody's going to say.

Speaker 1 We're done with this. We told you.
This is not what it is. Now,

Speaker 1 let's talk about teams that aren't playing this week, but have to wait another week. Go ahead, Con Man.
Yeah, coach, the winner of tomorrow night will play against Indiana in the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 1 And Kurt Signetti just won his second straight straight AP coach of the year.

Speaker 1 I assume that's because they got sick of giving you the award, and that's why he's the first one ever to win it back-to-back years.

Speaker 1 What do you think about Coach Signetti and the Hoosiers this kind of playoff run? Last year, they played in the first round at Notre Dame, and they were booted, but this year feels different.

Speaker 1 Mendoza wins the Heisman. Signetti has the boys going.
Do you think they have the best shot? I think statistically, or sorry, the odds would say that they do, or them are Ohio State.

Speaker 1 So can you speak a little bit on Ryan Day and Coach Signetti and what their week looks like this week as they just kind of watch from afar and get ready for their New Year's sixth day?

Speaker 6 Yeah, well, first of all, you know, Indiana, I said this before they played in the Big Ten championship game. They have a better team this year.

Speaker 6 Mendoza is, in my opinion, the best quarterback in the country, probably the first guy going to get picked in the draft at that position.

Speaker 6 And they're more physical on defense. I mean, it surprised me in the Ohio State game that they were as physical as they were on defense and able to stop Ohio State the way they did.

Speaker 6 So this is a really good football team. Now, you know, I think the world of Kurt Signetti,

Speaker 6 he's done an outstanding job there, not only in how he coaches the team, but how he's brought players to the team, how he's gotten guys to come to Indiana.

Speaker 6 I mean, that's pretty impressive in and of itself.

Speaker 6 I think Ryan Day is, you know, I think Ohio State is one of the best jobs in the country in terms of your ability to have success and the quality of the institution, the tradition.

Speaker 6 And I think Ryan Day has done a fantastic job, you know, in what he's done with that team.

Speaker 6 And I think these two teams may be, you know, right up there as two of the best with the best chance to win the championship.

Speaker 6 But, you know, you're going to have to play the games to see because I think there's probably seven teams, in my opinion, in this playoff that have good enough players to be able to win the championship.

Speaker 6 I think there's seven teams that can do that. So there's seven teams that could beat any of the other teams in my opinion.
So

Speaker 6 that's how I see it. I know that the odds

Speaker 6 don't really reflect that, but I think A ⁇ M could beat anybody.

Speaker 6 They're the seventh team right there, right?

Speaker 6 Plus 2,000. They could beat anybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, we kind of mixed up the numbers there, but one, two, three, four, five, seven, nine, six, ten, eight, just a matchup-wise championship odds as we go.

Speaker 1 But A ⁇ M, we think, can beat anybody, right?

Speaker 1 We all believe that. It's just what the team believes.

Speaker 6 I think Texas Tech could beat anybody.

Speaker 1 Definitely. I think Texas Tech.
Georgia could.

Speaker 6 Oregon could. I think Ole Miss, the way they play offense, could outscore you.

Speaker 6 So, I mean,

Speaker 6 but I think that's what makes,

Speaker 6 that's what makes a good tournament, you know, when you have lots of teams that you feel like have an opportunity to have a chance to win.

Speaker 6 And I think that's not disrespecting the other teams in there, Alabama or Oklahoma or Miami,

Speaker 6 but because they could probably beat anybody too on a given day. So that's why we're going to play the games, and that's why it's going to be very exciting.

Speaker 1 More teams get a shot to shine. You know, that's

Speaker 1 a lot more fun, a lot more

Speaker 1 fun. Yeah.
Starting with 12, counting down to one. That's how we crown of CFP national.

Speaker 6 Yeah, champion. And you're going to earn it, you know, with these teams in there.
Whoever wins it, they're going to earn it.

Speaker 1 And damn right.

Speaker 6 You know, I was never for going to 12 because I didn't want to minimize the importance of ball games, which has come to fruition. But the excitement that it's created is worth it.

Speaker 6 And I think it gives a lot more players an opportunity to have a chance to win a championship. So I really like this.

Speaker 6 Now, I think it's more difficult, just like it was more difficult when there was four than when there was two.

Speaker 6 And two was more difficult when the AP poll decided who was the national champion. Now it's going to be more difficult with 12 people in there, 12 good teams.

Speaker 1 Well, we'll start it tomorrow. I can't wait to see you out there in Oklahoma.
Go ahead and move some Toyotas today, okay, for the holiday season.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I got to change hats here. That's no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 What's the quarter's going to be? I'm going to go from hockey

Speaker 6 to selling cars

Speaker 6 to

Speaker 6 being on your show,

Speaker 6 going back to selling cars.

Speaker 6 And I'm not much of a salesman, though.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, retirement life is pretty good. Sounds like you can sell the shit out of a lot of things.
Hey, what's the quarter zip there? Is that a Toyota-thon quarter zip there?

Speaker 1 Is that your national predators? Oh, that's Nick's kids, man.

Speaker 6 Nick's kids.

Speaker 1 Oh, shout out. I think we're doing a donation to Nick's Kids because of the Alabama lady.

Speaker 6 That was fantastic. Fantastic.
The way that Miss Terry is so happy. I didn't have to.
Today's our anniversary, 54-year anniversary.

Speaker 6 I didn't even have to buy her anything because you took care of the whole thing for me.

Speaker 1 Hey, well, I'm happy I could do that for you. You know, that's a lot of fun.
We don't know how much longer that's going to last, you know, future years.

Speaker 1 It's getting very expensive, obviously, week in, week out. You know, whenever you're paying to be a part of a show, you know, that's certainly something.
That is certainly an interesting dynamic.

Speaker 1 But hey, what you give will come back in spades. I get a chance to be friends and sit alongside you.
We appreciate the hell out of you, Coach. Tell Miss Terry we say, congratulations.

Speaker 6 Well, hey, we appreciate you guys. I enjoy being on the show.
Happy holidays to everybody if I don't see you guys. Love you, man.

Speaker 1 Hey, they'll see you. They're going to make sure you see you.
Yeah. We love you too, Coach, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, coach.

Speaker 1 That's the national rankings, I guess, in the top left corner with the odds next to it. I think we could have left the rankings off there.

Speaker 1 But I appreciate that it's added piece of information on the graphic. Should have maybe down at the lower left corner there.

Speaker 1 But that's on me. I should have known what was going up for one up there.
I thought it was just an odds graphic and then i started seeing random numbers on themes and i'm like

Speaker 1 what who's drunk doing four nine seven and to be clear the graphic design boys this is something that could come out of their department this this if without any other you know real reasoning or behind it there it is that's boom that would be Look at that.

Speaker 1 Okay, it makes sense now.

Speaker 1 Now we're doing a graphic.

Speaker 3 I don't know what the teams are ranked in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Well, it doesn't matter. This is what their odds are.
This is what we're looking at here on this particular graphic. But I will say to the graphic design boys, great work out of you, boys.

Speaker 1 They become a really good factory over there of graphics. Every once in a while, there'll be something that comes out of there and you just go,

Speaker 1 you're an artist. I know you're an artist.
How,

Speaker 1 just from the conversation we had, how is that the way that went? Well, I was trying to, okay. Yep, you're an artist.
You're an artist. You're an artist.

Speaker 1 Now, you just wasted 35 minutes of your life, and there's no way we could show that in there.

Speaker 1 We don't have a lot of time, but I want to let you know I appreciate you taking the shot, and I appreciate your artistry.

Speaker 1 But I still don't fully understand how humans speaking the same language could be that further away from what we were looking for.

Speaker 1 And then they hop right back in the saddle, fix it, which is why we respect and appreciate them.

Speaker 1 There are some artists with some mental toughness and an ability to dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge their way through every morning. We appreciate you, graphic design boys.
Word boys.

Speaker 1 You are dealing with artists, though. You know, anytime you're dealing with artists,

Speaker 1 they want to protect their art. And it's like,

Speaker 1 nobody's going to see that. Are you going to tweet it?

Speaker 1 Who's going to see it? No, we can't use that, though, because it doesn't make any sense, you see.

Speaker 1 But if you lay out how we got to the, you know, if you read right to left, though, it's actually

Speaker 1 okay. We'll put it up in China then, where they read from that side of the page to the other.
That makes sense. All right, I'll fix it.
I'll change it.

Speaker 1 They're good, though. They're very good.

Speaker 1 We also have breaking news here at the Thunderdome.

Speaker 1 There are some new champions. Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 7 I did see something about that.

Speaker 1 Did you?

Speaker 1 Congratulations to

Speaker 1 partners, Connor.

Speaker 7 Used me in Oregon, basically.

Speaker 1 Oh, easy. It is.

Speaker 1 More like Tulane and Ole Miss, but

Speaker 1 JMU, Oregon, as well. Bruce Brown and Boston Connor are U-ball champions of the world.
Wow. I mean, I can't even begin to tell you how good this thing feels.
I do now know,

Speaker 1 AJ, I think you can speak to this. Jim Tressel

Speaker 1 holding that diamond football. That's exactly how this thing feels.
And Bruce, let me just say, nine to five game, Bruce puts one in the cup, 11-5. That's how we get to 11.
It was all Bruce.

Speaker 1 That's how we got there. Bone and D-button, I think we can all agree.

Speaker 1 Just not just not deserving U-ball champions.

Speaker 1 They did not represent the game well.

Speaker 1 And me and Bruce will do that. Unfortunately, I did go to the doctors.
I have a lower body injury. I will not be able to play for quite some time.

Speaker 1 So you guys are.

Speaker 1 We will not vacate the title. You're vacating the title.
We will not do that. We will not do that.

Speaker 1 The doctor actually gave me a note saying this injury is so serious to the point where vacating the title would be disrespectful to you, ball.

Speaker 1 So you guys just need to respect my injury and respect the fact that me and Bruce,

Speaker 1 we earned it back-to-back games. We used strategy.
We used teamwork. What?

Speaker 1 We used throwing the ball freaking down. What?

Speaker 1 After

Speaker 1 Pat kind of let Bruce know, like, hey, stop laying the ball and start dunking it. And that changed our entire team.
Bruce, I mean, I don't know. Bruce, you got anything to say?

Speaker 1 I don't even know why this thing's up here. Who cares? You know, you know, we got this one.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Oh, it is a.
That broke. It was a Christmas miracle, truly, that you guys won yesterday.
And we're incredibly proud that you immediately did a photo shoot and you are celebrating.

Speaker 1 Bruce, I don't think anybody would have thought an insider for a sport could ever become the champion of the sport, but that is certainly what you've done. Congratulations, Bruce.

Speaker 8 Yeah, thank you all so much. And Connor was selling himself short.
He came alive on the defensive end, was the MVP on that end of the floor.

Speaker 8 And then, you know, you just got to stay focused while you're shooting and make those shots. And we got the job done.
It was a proud night. It was a proud night.
I can't believe it, honestly.

Speaker 8 I never thought I'd see the day.

Speaker 1 I saw your wording of your tweet certainly drew some reaction. Thank God, my family, my partner, Connor, at Pat McVeigh Show, and everybody behind the scenes who helped make this possible.

Speaker 1 A lot of people saying the way you described your relationship with Connor was something, but I do think it is closer than just friends at this point. You guys are champions together.
That's you both.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's what friendship's all about. You know, some people haven't been in a locker room, don't understand that.
They don't understand the dynamic between, say, a Josh Harden and a Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 1 You guys did celebrate differently,

Speaker 8 it is my party.

Speaker 1 We're both proud of that. We did celebrate differently.
Immediately, we said, hey, look,

Speaker 1 pumped, really happy. Let's go nuts.
Keep your thumb out of my asshole. Okay, I know you're a fan of the Knicks.
I ain't doing it. Okay.
I'm not doing that. That's how Josh and Jalen have fun.

Speaker 1 That is their thing. That is their thing.

Speaker 7 Was Bruce arguing, though? Was he arguing against it and said you needed it?

Speaker 1 Now, Bruce, Bruce, to be clear, even though he is a diehard Knicks fan and loves Mr.

Speaker 1 Brunson and Josh Hart and their antics, if that's going to keep the Knicks winning more NBA Super Duper Cups, I think he does have respect for it. But he clearly said, no, we don't need that.

Speaker 1 That's not our team dynamic. No, it's not.
That is not our team dynamic. That might be the Knicks' team dynamic.
It is not. Do you guys have an official team name?

Speaker 1 Honestly, no. We're just the champs.
You know, I think you guys could just call us that going forward. Maybe we do kind of create some sort of, you know, Brown Boston, maybe.
I think that's kind of.

Speaker 1 And now you're not able to play?

Speaker 1 Not forever.

Speaker 1 But yeah, look, Lower, Lower, look, I got to listen to the doctors. What do you want me to do? Do you want me to play hurt? And you guys want to win an injured U-ball championship?

Speaker 1 I mean, talk about winning something that doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 1 And to be honest, you could say that this title run by me and Bruce was even more impressive since I was playing with a lower body injury. Not to mention what Bruce was going through.

Speaker 1 You know, he was coming off a hell of a night after the Knicks won the NBA Cup. The guy was as hungover as you can possibly.
And Bruce doesn't know if he's a righty or lefty still. Bingo.

Speaker 1 And he's the champion. So that's crazy.
Well, every once in a while, he'll do this one, which he made big. He made big shots like this.
I've watched him make clutch.

Speaker 7 He made clutch shots with me when he played.

Speaker 1 Put up an air ball, okay, in the first shot of the the last inning and it was like oh no the boys are about to crumble you know and then all of a sudden bruce steps up does his dribble

Speaker 1 splash and then i think he hit another one downtown bruce brown i think downtown bruce brown and then on the defensive end they started putting in effort and uh in you ball because the hoop is at eight feet you see in the little ball it takes weird bounces because they're not it's not around so like Doing a layup tip off the backboard is very dangerous.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is very dangerous. That thing can go there.

Speaker 1 Bruce Brown for a long time, I don't know if because he's a humble guy or didn't want to cause too much of a fuss, but he was always like trying to lay it up and it was just like brick city, brick city.

Speaker 1 And I said, Bruce, can you dunk? Like, can you dunk or no? And then all of a sudden, the Boston Brown team just starts.

Speaker 1 Like, Bruce starts hanging on the rim. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't know we had a little monster unlock down there, but it really did.
You guys started kicking ass on the boards.

Speaker 1 You made shots whenever you need them. It was a valiant championship run.
Congratulations. Yeah.
Hey, just happy to be here. And the bone and butts, that was a good championship run.

Speaker 1 I think they defended three full days. They had three full days of defenses, which I think is very impressive and certainly the second longest run in the history of U-ball.

Speaker 4 Yeah, a lot of people are actually comparing it to the Cena era, and that's not a good thing because they were the worst champions in this office that we've ever had.

Speaker 4 And how it ended reminded us a lot about how Cena ended the other day.

Speaker 1 Jeez, he was. Yeah, it did seem like they were content and they did tap out.
Yeah, you guys were kind of like Roman. Tired.

Speaker 1 I mean, obviously theirs was like Cena, and maybe ours will just be like Gunther, you know, stop crying. Sorry.
I can't play. You know, it is what it is.
Hopefully I get back on that course soon.

Speaker 1 Hopefully. Yeah, and you know what?

Speaker 1 Boston, Brian, Brian, Boston, maybe we're just Team BB and just like you, ball, the team name's up to you. Big ballers, you know, big balls.

Speaker 1 Whatever you want to call our team is what it could be. All right.
Well, congrats, champs. Hey, thanks, man.
It's great to hear.

Speaker 1 Before Before you even had a chance, you've decided you're not fighting. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 This is not on me, brother. This is how my body's responding.
Look, do you want me to blow my Achilles? You want me to blow a knee? Do you want me to blow a hip? It's a risk we're willing to take.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look,

Speaker 1 that's not a risk. Yeah, that's, that's your, that's up to you.
It's up to me with my injuries. Call it me, ball, bitch.

Speaker 1 See, it's already a part of the problem. Me and Foxy need to get that title ball back as soon as possible.

Speaker 1 As soon as I am physically able, as soon as the doctors, as soon as the sixth to nine months from

Speaker 1 trainers clear me, I'm going to be back on that field with a well you also need some rehab days, I guess, to get back into the swing of things.

Speaker 1 Well, it's going to be exactly one-on-one, two-on-two, three-on-three, four-on-four, five-on-five. This is Zion Williamson type return, huh? Back to two on two.
Let's play ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think he's not playing. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Speaking of being out, Joe Burrow talked about being out of Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 Interesting call response here from a press conference for Joey Burrow, who said he wasn't having fun, then he looked disinterested, and now he's being asked about the future. Here's his response.

Speaker 1 I can't see that, no.

Speaker 1 Did you ever thought about the possibility of not being the quarterback here during your career or typing?

Speaker 1 You think about a lot of things. Who has the fucking typewriter in there? We need to get that

Speaker 1 under the cable.

Speaker 1 It's unbelievable that this.

Speaker 7 Is there some soft-touch keys or something? Do they have them?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't. Maybe just...

Speaker 1 Is it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you don't have to.

Speaker 2 I think you don't have to type like that.

Speaker 1 Well, I like the fact that some of these people's fingers say, this is about me, and they kind of go for it.

Speaker 1 But also, there's really nothing else they can do as they're trying to be stenographers and get the right answer there. What did you hear from Joe Burrow?

Speaker 1 He said, I couldn't imagine that whenever they first asked him about not being on the Bengals. He could imagine.
And then they said, hey, have you thought about it?

Speaker 1 He's like, yeah, you think about a lot of things. What did you take from that? I thought that was the most convincing, I'm going to be a Bengal answer I've heard in some time.

Speaker 1 But there's certainly people that are like, he said he thought about it, though, not being there. I think your natural human instinct is to maybe visit other places at some time.
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 7 I would imagine at some point you've envisioned what it would look like if you were somewhere else.

Speaker 7 Like, but normally it would probably think, hey, what if the Bengals want me out of here and I got to go play somewhere else? What does that look like? What does it feel like?

Speaker 7 But no, I, for what I took from that, is Joe will be back in Cincinnati next year.

Speaker 1 Did you hear that you cannot wipe your or shoot your boogers in celebration? Amon Ross Saint Brown, I guess he is the

Speaker 1 booger trailblazer for the Detroit Lions, even though he's not the only one that's doing it. I guess the NFL officials told the Detroit Lions wide receiver coach to tell Amal Ross St.

Speaker 1 Brown on sideline, enough with the mining for gold.

Speaker 9 I want to know what happened to your

Speaker 9 Booger first down celebration. You guys stopped doing it.
What is that? Did you see me do it?

Speaker 1 I saw you do it. I saw like two other guys do it.
Like, what happened?

Speaker 10 What happened, bro? We do it the first drive. Our receiver coach comes

Speaker 10 after the the first drive. Hey, man, Ref said you guys can't do that no more.

Speaker 1 I'm like, what the fuck? Really?

Speaker 9 You can't dig in your nose and flick it?

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Why is that bad?

Speaker 10 I want to know, NFL, why can't I dig in my nose and flick it? Like, there's no way. What is bad about that?

Speaker 1 Is that disrespectful? Why do you want it? No, but you know, they is that derogatory?

Speaker 9 They're anti-bitcoin.

Speaker 6 I don't know, man.

Speaker 9 It's not like you're flicking an actual burger on somebody.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a word. Just flick it, but like, yeah.

Speaker 10 Not like, bro, I want to do that all game so bad, bro.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that was a good mistake.

Speaker 1 That's all he wanted to do. It was a fun game.
It was a good time, but I wasn't allowed to throw boogers, yo. So I'm not happy about it.

Speaker 1 Hey, here we go. How you think? Is it a weapon?

Speaker 7 Is he shooting a weapon? Is that what they're saying?

Speaker 1 So I looked into this a little bit. You know, the CD Lamb,

Speaker 1 this thing got banned and outlawed.

Speaker 1 I thought, and I was misunderstanding, I guess, I thought it was because of cocaine references, you know, where it's like, hey, you can't be signifying drugs or stuff like that.

Speaker 1 I guess actually, it's gang related, you know, with Rico charges with young thug and Gunner down there in Atlanta. So you can't be throwing up gang size slime.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't be doing the entire thing. I guess is what the NFL came out and said.

Speaker 1 It references gang symbolism, and they wrote that into laws. So I thought the Booger thing was like, well, they're talking about Booger Sugar, brother.
You can't be doing that.

Speaker 1 The reps are saying he can't be doing it. Turns out that's not a rule.
The rule is the gang thing is why CD can't do it. So I guess it's just unsportsmanlike.

Speaker 1 is what they're going with and they can call that on anything and i don't know maybe the guy can't breathe and he's just trying to get in there and clear the entire thing out.

Speaker 1 Or maybe he's just trying to be

Speaker 1 Booger King. And it might be the Booger gang.
We're not 100% sure. So we'll have to get more information on why the refs are looking for it.
This past week, though, he had a big-time catch.

Speaker 1 Sideline official was looking at his face. Don't pick your fucking nose.
All right. We're off tomorrow.
We'll be live game day tomorrow night for college football playoffs. See you then.

Speaker 1 I think we nailed it. Yeah.
He should pick his ass.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you got to throw your turds. They got to throw turds on.

Speaker 2 Pick his ass and smell it. Yes.

Speaker 1 Maybe both of them. Maybe both of them and then.

Speaker 1 I like that. You know, I don't know, but then that would be a poop gun and a booger gun.
You're right. But you can't do the guns.
So I'm not 100% sure how he gets around it, but I think maybe

Speaker 1 this is what the section 3 unsportsmanlike conduct article 1 prohibited acts reads. Okay.
Nice.

Speaker 1 There shall be no

Speaker 1 unsportsmanlike conduct.

Speaker 1 This applies to any act which is contrary to the general understood principles of sportsmanship.

Speaker 1 Such acts specifically include, among others, okay, throwing a punch or a forearm or kicking at an opponent, even though no contact is made.

Speaker 1 So even if you say, I'm going to do this,

Speaker 1 if you get in the way, I'm going to kick you, they consider them already in the way. They're already kicking them, okay? You can't do that.

Speaker 1 B, use an abusive, threatening, or insulting language or gestures to opponents, teammates, officials, or representatives of the league. I don't know, picking your own booger, pointing into space.

Speaker 1 It's pretty disrespectful. Flicking it on the other team.

Speaker 1 I don't think he's flicked it on the other team yet, though. Has he done that and rubbed it like we've seen others?

Speaker 1 Hypothetically.

Speaker 7 That would be a problem, yes.

Speaker 1 If he wants boom, boom, bang, pow and say,

Speaker 7 or he shot it at a guy, or he went and tried to rub it on somebody.

Speaker 7 I get that.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, but I don't think we've found it yet. I don't think we found it in here in Article A or

Speaker 1 B here. How about C of section three, Article I of the Unsportsman Like Conduct? Using baiting or taunting acts or words that may

Speaker 1 E-N-G-E-N-D-E-R ill will between teams.

Speaker 1 Engender ill will. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Whoever's writing this needs to stop being an asshole.
Okay. Just use words that we all understand because maybe that's engendering ill will, I guess.
You can see that.

Speaker 2 I can see that.

Speaker 1 Like, don't fucking pick your boogers at me. Don't do that.
Engender is to cause or give rise to a feeling, feeling, situation, or condition.

Speaker 1 So any using baiting or taunting acts or words that may engender ill will between teams. I don't know.
I see a guy picking his books every day. I don't think I'm getting any ill will.

Speaker 1 I'm like, bud, everybody can see you. Yeah, I think he's wired, but he's absolutely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what if you're, you know, you're with your kid watching the game, you're trying to get your kid to stop picking their nose, and all of a sudden, dad, CE, everybody's picking their nose.

Speaker 1 See, I'm not reading where that is hurting parenting. I haven't seen this anywhere.
D, violent gesture, which shall include but not be limited to, okay?

Speaker 1 Because they might come up with other ideas. A throat slash, simulating firing or brandishing a weapon.
Remember that kid? Yeah, God can't do that. Using a nose wipe gesture.

Speaker 1 Okay. Using a nose wipe

Speaker 1 gesture. There it is.
Or an act that is sexually suggestive. So any amount of pumps, if it looks like you're pounding something, is certainly going to be a problem.

Speaker 1 Picking your butt, potentially, depending upon what you're into.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because what if somebody starts whipping themselves? Yeah. We don't know.
Because maybe the ref's like, I know what you, that was, you got turned on.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 that's section three, Article 1, D, you know. That guy over there got a boner.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dominatrix, boom. Could you imagine somebody gets a first down, wraps one of those chokers around the mouth? Ball gags.
Ball gags.

Speaker 1 And the ref's like, whoa, I know that. Teammate starts walking them like a caller.

Speaker 1 Oh, please. Okay.
Someone's got to do that. Golden shower?

Speaker 7 Shouldn't be illegal.

Speaker 1 All right. It is.
That would be part of it. Cleveland steamer.
Yeah. There's a lot of.

Speaker 1 I think if you were to do that by yourself as a celebration, it would just look like you were dumping.

Speaker 1 I don't think anybody would really know you were potentially dumping on somebody else, which I guess it would be engendering ill will.

Speaker 1 But I don't know if it would be a sexually aggressive thing just by the sight. Unless you laid somebody down.
You would have to be. You would have teammate.
What if they voluntarily?

Speaker 1 You would have to. But if you're a referee.
But if they say, I'm good with it.

Speaker 7 Yeah. I'm reporting.

Speaker 7 I'm reporting to the referee.

Speaker 1 He can double on me. And then here we go.

Speaker 3 If you're the referee, you have to go to all 53 on the other team and ask them if they were turned on by the move.

Speaker 1 Time out. Time out.

Speaker 1 It's your dick card. It's your dick card.
It's your dick card.

Speaker 1 Cupjack.

Speaker 1 You know how they

Speaker 3 used to line up before soccer games and they would check our

Speaker 1 shin pads? Exactly. Just checklist it on the side.

Speaker 1 All right. So we don't know.
Submit this. Clip this and submit this, by the way.
The only thing we've really got is the nose wipe gesture, which is how it's written in the rules, is nose wipe gesture.

Speaker 1 Unnecessary physical contact with a game official under no circumstances is a player allowed to shove, push, or strike an official in an offensive, disrespectful, or unsportsmanlike manner.

Speaker 1 Okay, so those are, that is the entire rule right there. Because I was asked, what's the deal with the booger, man? Who cares? If somebody wants to do that, let them do it.

Speaker 1 You know, it's not gang-affiliated.

Speaker 2 Unless, like you said, there is like a big upstart booger gang in Detroit who's going around wiping boogers on the back of seats at the Lions Stadium.

Speaker 1 They mouse pissed in. They must do it.
Exactly. I mean, you could see Tim Robinson in Detroit doing that exactly.

Speaker 2 Wiping boogers everywhere.

Speaker 1 Everybody in the 313, get your boogers on your fingers, you're going to wipe them on me. Yeah, I mean, there's a chance.
All right, let's get to a break on the other side.

Speaker 1 We'll make our picks and we'll wrap up all the very,

Speaker 1 very serious sports stories like that one. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
If we don't talk about it, who will?

Speaker 1 We just read the entire

Speaker 1 bylaws.

Speaker 1 Nose wipe, I think, is where they got you, Amon Ra.

Speaker 1 Nose wipe. We read them all.

Speaker 7 Nothing there that says you can't throw turds, so they should try it.

Speaker 1 I guess you could catch them.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 7 Just launch it. Not at somebody, though.
You can't throw it at another play.

Speaker 1 No, but remember, that would be dropping a bomb.

Speaker 1 And right here, it clearly says any violent gesture, which shall include, but not be limited to so if the ref on site picks up the fact that you're catching a turd and throwing a bomb poop is a weapon flag potentially coming plus you might throw it

Speaker 7 don't throw it like a grenade then throw it like your baseball pitch so it doesn't look like you're throwing a grenade that's even worse there it is bam but you gotta

Speaker 1 you gotta cut you gotta hold it like that go oh this is a this is unstable in my hand it's sliding through my fingers you gotta show that it's stable

Speaker 1 you gotta bring it up to your helmet like gorillas you ever seen a gorilla throw poop yeah smell it yeah smell it it.

Speaker 1 I saw a gorilla. Yeah.
Shark

Speaker 1 on the window. I'm thinking, was that AI?

Speaker 2 I think that was AI because that was Chris.

Speaker 1 What are they feeding that thing? It's explosive. What do they feed me? Are we the only three to see that?

Speaker 1 Did you see it?

Speaker 1 I saw it. I mean, yeah, I saw it.
It might be real. I know for a fact it's AI, but

Speaker 1 I thought so. I don't know.

Speaker 1 This video is not real. It is AI generated.
Shut up, bitch. Community notes will get you.
I haven't seen it. Oh, you have.

Speaker 1 oh you got it you do it every night in your bathroom pal i'll tell you what i have had a couple explosive situations in the bathroom and as soon as i see this video i go silverback definitely possible this is certainly possible

Speaker 1 this this silverback gorilla i think i don't know all the different you know the types of gorillas but i believe it's silver silverback the biggest baddest loudest the one you don't want to kind of meet

Speaker 1 you guys are questioning if that's real

Speaker 1 How would you know? How would you know? I'm sending it to you, AJ. Hey, Joe, I'm sending it to you.

Speaker 3 When I heard you guys describe it, I knew it had to be fair.

Speaker 1 No, it's real. In the moment, I said I could see it.
I thought it was real. I could see it.
Run it. Run it.
Run it. Run it.
Run it. Run it.
Run it.

Speaker 1 This could definitely happen. You never know.
She's getting sassy with him.

Speaker 1 You never know. You can't watch that once.
Look at that spray pad on. Hey, look at the science.
The science, it It feels like that would be how it would go. And also,

Speaker 1 he's about sick of it. I've had a couple of moments with orangutans.

Speaker 1 You never know. So that's not real.
Okay, good. Go see the silverbecks at the zoo.
That's not going to happen to you.

Speaker 1 Football! It's happening in a huge way tonight and throughout the entire weekend. That's AJ Hawk.
The Toxic Tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One out of the hammer,

Speaker 1 Cowboys AP Tone is here. And Tone, I think we got to make our picks, don't you think?

Speaker 3 It feels right to me.

Speaker 1 Because we're off tomorrow. We will not only be selecting this evening's game, but also this weekend's NFL matchups.
And then for college, obviously, we're going to be on the call.

Speaker 1 So don't have to make a pick, right? Yeah, no, can't. No,

Speaker 1 not allowed to. That's kind of the thing.
We can't.

Speaker 1 Beagle Boys definitely can. No, but even you guys can.

Speaker 2 Technically, we can't either. That would not be.
We got to be right down the center with this one.

Speaker 1 So, Des

Speaker 1 Coach Sabin,

Speaker 1 the guest picker who Boz is going to be tomorrow. Hell yeah, Boz.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to see him. I assume he's still incredibly jacked in on it.
He's the sheriff now. And then Johnny Manzel will be the guest picker for Saturday down there at College Station.

Speaker 1 Now, I've seen him throwing up the U recently with an actress. And

Speaker 1 I also saw him with Vandi a lot this year.

Speaker 1 I thought he's a Vandy fan. But he is tech.
I think he's a Diego Pavia fan. I think he's obviously Texas A ⁇ M legend.

Speaker 1 So I think obviously anytime you get Johnny Manzel at college station, you're going to go ahead and do that.

Speaker 1 Johnny Manzel needs to be a part of the biggest moment in the history of Kyle Field because he has a couple of them. He has a couple of them already.

Speaker 1 So I'll be excited to see him, be excited to see Boss. But I certainly won't be able to pick that Texas A ⁇ M Miami game now that I'm thinking about it.
No, you won't.

Speaker 1 Well, Herbie should be able to pick it though, right? Because he's not on a cool. Yeah, you guys flip.
Should, yeah. So I'll make the pick tomorrow night, kids, great

Speaker 1 on him. And he can't.

Speaker 3 And then you will. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's pretty cool.
Perfect. Wow.

Speaker 3 That'd be cool for you to say. I don't think you should let anyone know until it happens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because there's no way anybody at Game Day knows that I'm calling the game. Bingo.
Actually, no chance.

Speaker 1 Actually, they will not know that.

Speaker 2 It will also be awesome if you close the show by just doing like a big promo and be like, with that said, I'm going to go call this dude.

Speaker 1 I can't pick this thing because I got to go call it. Herme! But it's in the stadium.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think we're in the stadium somewhere. So, you know, in both games, actually.
Yeah. In the stadium.
stadium, so you kind of get out of having to really do any of the fish people on.

Speaker 1 Song and dance, Daniel.

Speaker 1 You don't have to do all the...

Speaker 3 Plus it's over at the stadium, PA.

Speaker 1 Which

Speaker 1 I don't want to give it away because I don't know if it's been set in stone yet. Saturday morning, college game day, we could potentially have the biggest field goal kick in the history.

Speaker 1 That's all I'm going to say. Kicking is easy as the contest, obviously, each week.
This year has been spectacular. You know, it has been fun to kind of do.
Very expensive.

Speaker 1 Obviously, a lot of money going out of this particular business into other people's pockets, including charity, which has been a very fun part of all this, finding different charities in different locations around campuses and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Nick's Kids was the one selected by the lady from the SEC championship. Remember, she was Alabama fan.
Husband was Georgia fan. Husband, Georgia fan, gets two kicks.

Speaker 1 He misses, but we still donate $250,000 to wife's charity of choice as opposed to his charity of choice. She picked Nick's kids and got a photo with Miss Terry and Coach Sabin.
I mean, it was a...

Speaker 1 Merry Christmas. You know, yeah, kicking is easy contest has created some magical moments, obviously, in Alabama this past.
I couldn't even tell you the Penn State one was insane. How awesome.

Speaker 1 Vandi was insane. It'd be hard to just pick Georgia whenever Hot Rod comes out.
I mean, there's a lot of really cool moments that have happened.

Speaker 1 I think this one at Texas A ⁇ M on Saturday will be, if everything gets, everything has to get, because we're going to the stadium. So that would mean.

Speaker 1 I mean, the kick is in the stadium? Yeah, I think there's a lot of people that would have to approve it, but I think there's a chance that we have 100,000 plus.

Speaker 2 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Jeez. Yeah.
Not a chance.

Speaker 1 I think there's 100,000 plus. Yeah, I think there's a chance that that's going to happen.
Now, Coach Elko and Texas A ⁇ M folks have been very, yep,

Speaker 1 we are in, but I don't know the actual logistics of what is happening. So I don't want to guarantee that it's taking place.

Speaker 1 But without saying anything, there's a chance Saturday morning the kick is happening in front of 100,000 plus.

Speaker 2 And there's no chance that kid is going to make that.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it might be worth

Speaker 1 Buku bucks. A big one, yeah.
Just depending on how the vibe is. And there's a chance that this will be going to, and the thing will be

Speaker 1 pressure cooker. Oh, my God.
100-some thousand people chanting some kid's name. Imagine that.
Just.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe he'll be so tired, or she will be so tired, or maybe they'll be so

Speaker 1 adrenaline-fueled that it'll help him instead of hurt him. Or maybe that thing really gets to them and they have a moment of, oh no, this is not that fun to be a kicker.

Speaker 1 How did I sign up and win this lottery to do this? One or 300 people. But there's a chance Saturday morning is going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 No kick tomorrow night before the game because of logistics and everything that's taking place. But Saturday morning, allegedly, there's a chance, AJ, that it is going to be the

Speaker 1 biggest one possible. And that would be sick.
And once again,

Speaker 1 I'm speaking for our experience. The Texas AM hospitality has been outrageous for us.
We just got invited in the gym.

Speaker 1 In an interesting phrase, text message, we got invited to be able to use their facilities. Hey, we're not getting in till late or whatever on Friday.
It's all right.

Speaker 1 We'll have somebody come here and open if you guys need anything. Early in the morning, you need anything.
We'll have somebody come open it for you.

Speaker 1 It's like they have been very, very, and I would say this, Miami earlier in the year, probably the most. hospitable to us.

Speaker 1 So it's like, we are very lucky that this game is happening with how everybody's been treating us. Now it's our job to hopefully do it some justice on ESPN too boys that's right

Speaker 1 that's right

Speaker 1 boys do our best what was coach saving about hey you're all gonna be there i'll be interested to know after the game you think that's real uh noise in there or do you think

Speaker 1 i saw his comments made

Speaker 1 some noise what's that since sang it well that one but more the triple a more the g5 one yeah and you know elitist culture elitist mindset ty schmit's been heavily in the elitist conversation for a while with this entire group of five thing there's a chance to prove it on the field Yeah, we're not saying it's their fault.

Speaker 3 It's not JMU's fault. It's not Tulane's fault.
They just played the games. The committee put them in.

Speaker 1 Fox put out what we were talking about yesterday with, you know, five stars and shit, four stars.

Speaker 1 A lot of it, obviously production on the field got to be good, but body type, speed, that's all like projections on what players could be.

Speaker 1 So normally the five-star players are all the big fast guys, the unusually big, fast human beings. The bodies that are built differently than everybody else.

Speaker 1 Normally the five-star, built on projections of what they could be. Four Four-star, same thing, just whatever, three-star, same thing.

Speaker 1 And then Fox put out the comparison to the roster, and it's like, yeah, here's kind of how it lays out. There's six of them on Oregon, zero, 52 four-star players.

Speaker 1 There's three at JMU, and then 51 others is like two-star, I guess, or anything other than that. No star.
No star for Oregon. So they still got the walk-ons and the lower recruited guys.

Speaker 1 But it's like, this is what... Saban's talking about when he talks about a weight advantage because these stars, I'm not saying this is how good of a player is.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying this is guaranteed to make somebody be great.

Speaker 1 Because obviously, I think I was a zero star before I went and hit a kick 65-yard field goal in Miami, and all of a sudden I was the number one guy in the country, and nobody had even seen me before that weekend.

Speaker 1 So, I don't believe in all this shit. But the stars normally are body type projections, is what they are.
So, whenever you're talking about size and shit, they can be utilized.

Speaker 1 Not skill, not heart, not the size of the dog, the fighting of the dog, all that type of shit.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you, from pure body type reasons, this is why Coach Sabin and others are like, this game involves physicality.

Speaker 1 And whenever one side is clearly bigger, stronger, faster than the other in football, they're probably going to win that game, especially if it's that big of a difference.

Speaker 1 That's why in the NFL, you see a lot of the same. It's a lot of parody about it because whatever it is.

Speaker 1 But whenever you have different weight classes fighting, normally it bodes well for the bigger, stronger, faster team. But JM, you don't care about that, AJ.

Speaker 1 And they can change the entire conversation this weekend. So can Tulane.
They can literally change everything that's being said right now can get settled on the field.

Speaker 1 But if it ends up going the way that all the people, Coach Shabin and basically everybody else has been a part of this conversation goes, it's going to be so fucking, there's not even going to be a conversation about Alabama, Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 Nope. There won't even be a conversation about Miami, Texas, A ⁇ M going in the next round.
The entire conversation will be Notre Dame didn't get in and these other teams didn't get in.

Speaker 1 And what happened on the field is exactly what everybody thought was going to happen. And once again, Tulane and JMU, not their fault.

Speaker 2 No, not fair for them either.

Speaker 1 They shouldn't be just getting murdered through this entire thing by everybody. They should be celebrating a championship win and being one of the top five ranked conference champions.

Speaker 1 But in the reality of the entire thing, they took Notre Dame Spot. One of them did, if not both of them did.
So it's going to be viewed as such after the games.

Speaker 1 And once again, they can go out there and win this. They can.

Speaker 1 They can be lizard-licking all over True TV.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 7 They can change the future of the college football playoffs.

Speaker 7 Say both these teams win, like then they're like, okay, I think we figured it out, guys. We don't need to make any tweaks.

Speaker 1 Even if it's

Speaker 7 close. Good game comes down towards the end.

Speaker 1 I think that's all anybody's going to be watching for. But as soon as it, if not as soon, sorry, then I am falling into the same category as everybody else.

Speaker 1 That's just assuming it's going to, which I lean towards. I do think that Oregon and, you know, Ole Miss,

Speaker 1 we'll see how they handle it all. Yeah.
A lot of drama.

Speaker 1 A lot of drama.

Speaker 1 Most drama. Before what happened in, obviously, Ann Arbor, but like,

Speaker 1 that's not into the...

Speaker 7 That can also build them up too though. That can also give you the old bunker mentality I feel like for ole miss.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the entire offensive staff are LSU tiger coaches. So bunker.

Speaker 7 That is tough.

Speaker 7 That does make it a little tougher.

Speaker 1 So what bunker

Speaker 1 are you, you know.

Speaker 2 And a lot of the guys who are on ole miss currently, like are those, a lot of those guys will probably transfer to LSU as well.

Speaker 1 So it is a fascinating thing. But on that note, could rally them and say like, hey, this is our one last chance to kind of do this as this team with this.

Speaker 1 So to your point, we never know how something could go, but there are certainly outcomes that are very polar different.

Speaker 3 And fun fact between those two games, seven coordinators in those two games will be on different teams next year. The only coordinator staying is Golding, who got hired as the head coach at Ole Miss.

Speaker 1 Yeah, both teams dealing with that whole coach and people leaving and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 But I mean, also when you go to those four biggest spreads, we talked about how like, oh, well, the two other biggest spreads, you know, those two teams covered.

Speaker 1 Well, that's also when there's only four teams. So, sure, the two other big spreads with, you know, sit, where is it? Uh, Notre Dame, Bama, the 2020 semifinal.
Yes, you know, Notre Dame, they covered.

Speaker 1 They're the fourth-ranked team in the country. And same with Oklahoma.
Like, this is a much different situation. Like, there's a huge chance these teams get fucked.

Speaker 1 And then we just have to not even watch. But it also, like you mentioned, it takes away from these other games that also might be blowouts.
Like, Oklahoma might last year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, that, that could easily happen. Like, oh, exactly.
Ohio State murdered Oregon in the Rose Bowl. One seed.
In the second round, yeah, as the one seed.

Speaker 1 Like blowouts happen, but in the first round, that's when hopefully we could get rid of them instead.

Speaker 3 Those were the biggest spreads in college football playoff history. The biggest upsets, the biggest wins in college football playoff history.
TCU was plus eight over Michigan in 2022.

Speaker 3 Ohio State plus seven and a half over Bama in 14. And Ohio State plus seven over Clemson in 1840.

Speaker 1 Ohio State, Ohio State. Yeah, yeah.
And how'd TCU do in the national championship after that?

Speaker 1 They got beat by closer one to Georgia. Was it raining in Los Angeles that day? Yes, it was inside.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That was crazy.
People flipping on the concourse. Yes, cracking their school open.

Speaker 1 Oh, that got it. Yeah.
Have we got any? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 We move along. We move along.
We're thankful that we're on side. We have no updates, though.
But we need to keep our head on a swivel down there. Big time.
Especially if Spanks running around. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I hope.

Speaker 1 Me too. We've decided we're going to fight you this year.

Speaker 7 Does he know that you're, does he know that he is Spank that you're talking about him?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I found friends of his to make sure they relay messages to him.

Speaker 1 Like, hey,

Speaker 1 let him know that like

Speaker 1 there's a significant investment on us being allowed to stand where we are. So if he needs to move two feet, like He needs to do that.

Speaker 1 And we're about sick of him prancing around us, giving us nasty looks and bumping into us and taking pictures of us and doing all this thing it's like just go do your job two feet to the left of us buddy we know you need this exact moment right here i'm sick of it i hate that guy oh yeah

Speaker 1 we'll see you oh we'll see you it's true at the ref if we're too close the refs politely ask us to back up that has happened before and we have but the refs also kind of understand like

Speaker 1 Hey, this is a part of the media package of the college football playoff, like the thing that is kind of doing this entire thing.

Speaker 1 Don't want to big dog you, but I'm in the actual meetings wherever this is all being talked about. You can move your fucking ass two feet to the left here, buddy.
Okay, they do.

Speaker 1 And I think there's other people that do your job. I'm not sure this one, there is any.
So, yeah, I'm excited for that. I am excited for that.

Speaker 1 Me too.

Speaker 1 Just now thinking about it, I'm like, yes, Spank, get him around here. This guy's bigger than the game.
This guy's bigger than the college football playoff. Tell it out.

Speaker 1 This guy right here, that's unbelievable. I had no idea that was even possible for somebody that dresses like that.

Speaker 1 Not to mention, you know, Texas A ⁇ M goes down early, and maybe Spank runs his mouth to the wrong state trooper. That state trooper...
We got to see him. Yeah.
Was he banned?

Speaker 1 Banned. We don't know if he got banned.
That day he was.

Speaker 3 That game he was, but I don't know if he's banned.

Speaker 1 He ended up winning. So I'm assuming he still hasn't paid for a beer in college station.
Let's make sure we find him.

Speaker 1 So we take a picture with him.

Speaker 2 I think that guy got reassigned, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah.

Speaker 1 To the other side? Yeah, to the old office.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? Like, you ain't fucking working these games anymore, pal.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm pretty sure you got reassigned.

Speaker 1 That was unbelievable to see that. He's like, is this real life? The Texas A.M.

Speaker 1 So the state trooper made contact with South Carolina players during Saturday's game, has been relieved of his game day duties.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 That's bull. What did this guy do? Save the team.
Remember that guy? Nice guy. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Hey, you get going, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 And who won that game? Texas AM. What was the score after that? After that? Huge comeback.

Speaker 1 31-3 I think and I'm relieved yeah of my duties. Oh, okay.
Okay, I thought we wanted it every game earlier in the game

Speaker 1 My eggies I don't want to work here more of a tech guy anyway Yeah, Cody Campbell. I'm gonna call him right now Cody Campbell were like six of me around here.
Yeah Boom. What are you doing?

Speaker 1 Hey, fuck you get back on the fucking field Unreal.

Speaker 7 He got both of them.

Speaker 1 He did.

Speaker 1 But you specifically get the fuck back on the hood feel. Bitch.
I love it. He's like, it's my tunnel.
Protect it. Why are you?

Speaker 1 Number eight sucks. I would like to hear his explanation whenever he sits down and they go, all right, what's your side of it?

Speaker 1 As you can see, I was protecting that tunnel. That is where our

Speaker 1 Aggies come from. So I just

Speaker 1 wanted him to know that he can't be going down there. It feels like they were already coming back, though.
They weren't really going.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but if they wanted to do it again, I had to let them know that

Speaker 1 that ain't the right move. But I don't think it was really just a situation with the

Speaker 1 You don't care about that tunnel? See, that's why I was at that tunnel.

Speaker 1 Well, it seems like you went out of your way to hit them, and then you kind of made us all look like assholes whenever you turned and pointed. It was them.

Speaker 1 I'm the asshole, because I want the Aggie's tunnel to be protected. Fine, you want to hear me say it? We were down four touchdowns.
I was fucking pissed. Okay?

Speaker 1 So I fucking gave them both a shoulder to chew on. And then that one son bitch had the gall to look back at me, said, fuck you, get going.
And we won. You should be thanking me.

Speaker 1 There's a home game this weekend

Speaker 1 y'all in here

Speaker 1 they're talking about wiping boogers on on the side of the wall

Speaker 1 all right let's make some picks tonight rams seahs seahawks favored by a point and a half on draft kings 62 of the bets are in puka nakua hey poo need a big one buddy yeah

Speaker 1 need a big one you need to have a big game this is part of becoming a superstar in the league and what it's all about, especially if you're going to do stuff.

Speaker 1 It's going to be very loud if you don't perform on the field, which you always do.

Speaker 1 We can't wait to watch Puka Nakua, Matthew Stafford, Sean McVay, and the boys travel up to Seattle for an NFC West heavyweight fight. Who's gonna win the division?

Speaker 1 It was a home playoff game, or maybe a bye in home playoff throughout the entirety of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? No injuries, basically, other than Devontae.

Speaker 7 Okay, well, first off, I like these Seahawk uniforms. What do we do we have a name for these?

Speaker 1 These are their version of the NFL rivalries. I believe they're the last team to wear them this year.
It was the AFC East and NFC West. That's what those are.

Speaker 1 Mike McCarthy took the Seattle Seahawks strictly because of Schneider.

Speaker 1 That's on my own three whenever I pick with my heart, but damn, Schneider's got my heart pretty good. I'm taking the Seahawks up there.
He would be 9-5 if he was making selections.

Speaker 1 Last week, he took another L. So he's 9-5, still very much a winner, and it's still a very good odds, still very good picking.
He's on the Seahawks, though, because of Schneider.

Speaker 1 That is basically all it was. So it's kind of tough whenever he's that biased knowing that whenever you watch film for this game, it was with the mindset of wanting to pick Schneider Seahawks.

Speaker 1 So, AJ, who do you like? How do you like it?

Speaker 7 Well, when I heard Coach Mike say that, you know, I'm going with John Snyder and the Seahawks, I knew instantly what my pick was going to be.

Speaker 7 I was leaning heavily towards the Seahawks, and that just cemented my decision to take John Snyder and the Seattle Seahawks. And, I mean, think about it, though.

Speaker 7 The Seattle Seahawks defense, they bottled up Phil Rivers last week. That is not something that everybody can do.
So I think they're going to continue with that momentum. Sam Darnow has a big game.

Speaker 7 I don't know why you're shaking your head. Give me the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not yes. I'm saying yes to what you're saying.

Speaker 1 Because you're right. Everybody was just killing the Seattle Seahawks because it was a close game against Phil Rivers and the Colts.

Speaker 1 Might we remind you that the Indianapolis Colts, whenever they had a quarterback that was operating, were the number one team in the NFL. This is the best offense in the entire league.

Speaker 1 Now, defense has a lot of injuries. So Sam Darnow and the Seattle Seahawks not being able to move a lot on our defense.
Louie Ana Rumo, obviously, gets a lot of credit for that.

Speaker 1 The defense flew around. So, you can certainly judge that.
But, like, Seahawks' defense is still very good. I mean, Jonathan Taylor was an MVP candidate just three weeks ago.

Speaker 1 So, whenever you talk about beating the Colts in the way that they did and everybody holding that against the Seattle Seahawks, I think that was very disrespectful to the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 1 I think that was very disrespectful to the Seattle Seahawks. And on that note, give me the Los Angeles Rams plus one and a half going into Seattle.
I like the Rams, and i think

Speaker 1 i might not be mistaken but

Speaker 1 i think puka is going to have a huge game i think puka knows he has to like

Speaker 1 i think puka is going to have a huge game just anytime there's a lot of this most dogs understand what they have to do we all believe that puka's a dog right for sure we all believe that is so i think puka is going to have an even bigger game not that he doesn't every single week i think matthew stafford's going to do well i think the wind is going to even only spotlight what Puka is going to be able to do anymore.

Speaker 1 You're going to have a lot of jet sweeps. You're going to have a lot of short throws to him, try to get him the ball early.
He's going to run very angry.

Speaker 1 I think he has a good game strictly because he has to, because if he doesn't, it's going to be very loud. And I think McVay gets the job.
Nope. Give me the Seahawks.
I like the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 What happened? I don't know. In my brain, I just saw, in my head, I just literally saw and heard the Seahawks faithful, like the fans.
And it was like, that's a massive difference, actually.

Speaker 1 In the 50-degree or 50-mile an hour wins, 40-mile an hour wins. I think that bodes well for the home team normally, especially if they know the place.

Speaker 1 And I think,

Speaker 1 yeah, I like the Seahawks, I think, too. Wow.
No, Devontae. Like, we're talking, Mike McDonald's being a defensive mastermind.
Like, having to cover 2-1 sucks. But now it's just Puka.

Speaker 1 It's like, okay, let's take him out of the game completely. And then let's see if these three tight ends, 2-2-Atwell and Kyron Williams, can beat us.
Like with Devontae, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 It's just, you wonder how, like, all those touchdowns, how many goal-to-go touchdowns does Devontae have? Like, 10 this year? Like, that changes their offense just a little bit.

Speaker 1 Who knows if it's enough, but a little bit. 12.
12 goal-to-go touchdowns.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and we talked about it a bunch in the first hour. And I know, you know, Harrison Mivis has been good this year, but like Jason Myers is arguably the best kicker in the NFL right now.

Speaker 2 And if you think it's going to be a close game, like...

Speaker 2 You side with the guy who has been, you know, just went 60 bulletproof.

Speaker 1 The last time we talked up Jason Myers, though. True,

Speaker 1 he missed a kick. The next game.
tonight, he might miss a kick because of how windy it is going to be.

Speaker 7 Did you say 50 mile an hour gusts up there?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're saying 40 to 50.

Speaker 7 That's going to be wild. I mean, punting.
I know I've played a game in Chicago where I'm on punt team and the wind was so serious, the snap got blown like 10 yards away from our punter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the punting can happen. The punting is the worst.
And McCarthy, I don't know if you heard us talk to him in the first hour.

Speaker 1 He said something that was so empathetic of his punters that I was like, fuck, man. I never even thought of a coach thinking of that.

Speaker 1 Coach McCarthy was like, if it's super windy and it's third down, you know, you're not worried to maybe take a shot here because the worst thing that could happen is just long interception.

Speaker 1 And it's basically just an arm point. You kind of take it out of the punter's hands anyways.
You don't have to worry about the wind. And I was like,

Speaker 1 yes, I would have loved to hear that from like somebody going into a game like in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 We had a game in Cleveland. It was so cold, so windy.
I mean, it was ass. And I did terribly.
And I thought I was built for that. Like born in Pittsburgh, West Virginia, like I'm ready for this.

Speaker 1 And just mentally and physically, just wasn't able to really do well. It would have been great if Andrew just throws four picks that game, you know, just four massive 55-yard picks.
He did it for me.

Speaker 1 He didn't do it for me on purpose, I don't think, but he said it did cross his mind. Like, ah, worst thing that happens here is 50-yard gain if an interception happens.

Speaker 1 Drake May just did it last week. It's like in these super windy games, punting is so hard.
I didn't even mention the snap. That's 15 yards where that thing has to happen.
That's the tough.

Speaker 7 That's the scary thing. When it's that windy, that snap is not easy.

Speaker 1 That's for sure. That's a 15-yard completion.

Speaker 1 Like, nobody really talks about it and it's somebody can sam punt can sam darnold or stafford punt and do the old ben rodsberger take a couple steps back and then all of a sudden the quarterback boots it uh could that'd be even more scary though because the free fall is what i talked about so whenever somebody drops the ball and then from hand to foot there's a moment where that ball is just kind of lingering and it doesn't have a lot of power or force it's just kind of just hanging there and if the wind's bad and that thing moves it's like You got no shot to hit that thing clean, basically.

Speaker 1 So punting is a nightmare in this type of weather.

Speaker 1 And this is one of those games that I'll watch and I'll just be like so pumped that I don't even have to ever feel that feeling again of walking onto a field in warm-ups and just feeling

Speaker 1 and being like, well,

Speaker 1 let's hope I don't ruin my entire career today. Let's hope that this doesn't happen.
And the worst thing that happens, you hit a shitty ball because it moves, hits off the inside of your foot.

Speaker 1 It's low. Returner gets it.
House call. Okay, so not only is it terrible average,

Speaker 1 it's a touchdown. Angie's fucked your team.
So, all right.

Speaker 1 It's been fun. That's possible tonight for the punters so i believe in dixon yeah yeah i think he's very good who's uh rams punter the jack guy right

Speaker 7 ethan evans i like him yeah i think he's very good flip side though for returners trying to catch those punts if they actually do catch them they can also muff them a lot easier yeah a lot of this a lot of this yeah they're gonna be getting away from it for sure a lot of peter poison what did you guys say

Speaker 7 peter always

Speaker 1 I always heard Peter as well. Whole life, every person, Peter.
And then there's people that say like poison, too. You ever hear that? People say that?

Speaker 7 I definitely heard other teams say poison. Yeah,

Speaker 7 we said Peter from first grade on, probably.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I think even backyard football, street football.

Speaker 7 What is that? What's the background of that? How did that start?

Speaker 1 It might be regional as well, because I've only ever heard poison.

Speaker 3 Back in, I think it was the early 20s, 1920s, Peter Van Dyke. He muffed a pun he shouldn't have touched.

Speaker 1 And so, Peter, Peter, Peter. And then the band Poison, who...
obviously legendary band. Yeah, their axe man was a punter.

Speaker 1 And, you know, growing up in the Northeast, he's just showing respect. He started.
He started the whole poison thing. Poison, poison.
Great bands. Get away from the ball.
Yeah, listen to music.

Speaker 1 Don't touch the ball. Exactly.
Yeah, there's a chance both those things are true. And there's a chance both of them are not.

Speaker 1 I assume there is a guy named Peter, though, that did something on a pump play, and everybody was like, this fucking asshole, don't beat him.

Speaker 1 Just don't do it. All right, let's go to the Saturday double header for the NFL.
Philadelphia and Washington, Washington with Marcus Mariota, over under 44 and a half.

Speaker 1 Philadelphia Eagles seem to be very jolly on hard knocks. So I'm actually really falling in love with their team.

Speaker 1 Bradley Cooper obviously was in attendance with a big smile on his face. Go watch his new movie.

Speaker 1 Is this thing on?

Speaker 1 It's available, what, tomorrow? Yeah. December 9th.
Stand-up movie, right? Stand-up movie?

Speaker 1 It's with Will Arnett. Arnett and Laura Dern.

Speaker 1 Fascinating.

Speaker 1 He

Speaker 1 wrote, directed, shot, and is in Bradley Cooper. So you're talking like super talent in this entire thing.
And we potentially heard from him while he was shooting and creating this.

Speaker 1 We're talking about actually holding the camera for a lot of these shots and then directing and then editing and the whole writing, the whole thing. So we're incredibly pumped for Bradley Cooper.

Speaker 1 We think he did a great job. The tomato score for this is very high.

Speaker 2 Certified fresh.

Speaker 1 Very, very high.

Speaker 2 And it's like a 90 plus, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very, very high. So congrats to him.
And Will Arnett and Cooper, I believe, have been friends for a very long time. And Cooper was like so excited and thankful that Will Arnett agreed to do it.

Speaker 1 Seems like he was perfect for the character. We got a chance to watch like the first 45 minutes in here.
Very thankful for the opportunity to do that.

Speaker 1 You're going to see the artistry in there, brother. I mean, there is

Speaker 1 the shots, the whole thing.

Speaker 1 Congrats to him. That's available tomorrow, I do think.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 31 zip. Eagles just beat the Raiders.
Philly favored by six and a half. Who do you like? How do you like it, AJ?

Speaker 7 I mean, I got to go Philly here.

Speaker 7 I'm trying to talk myself into taking Washington because I like a lot of the guys. I like Dan Quinn, but I like Philly here, minus six and a half.

Speaker 1 I'll ride with you as well. 31-Zip will shut up anybody who might have some doubts, myself included, for who that Philadelphia Eagles team is and who they can be.
And it's meaningful football time.

Speaker 1 All Sirianni's teams, right, except for that one year where they lose six straight, have seemingly got better towards the end. Green Bay versus the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 Bears, one and a half point dogs in Chicago. Could be one of the last times they play in the city of Chicago.
Go ahead, Bruce.

Speaker 1 What's that? Oh, I'm sorry. The Bears, favored by point and a half.
They were dogs yesterday.

Speaker 2 They were one and a half point dogs yesterday.

Speaker 1 Okay, so this is this coin flip. What changed? This coin flip.
I think the news that this could be one of the final games in Chicago is maybe what changed things.

Speaker 1 AJ, we haven't got your opinion on that. Bears exploring all options as another seemingly deal to relocate is now no longer 100 percenter.

Speaker 1 Northwest Indiana, Gary area, only 31 minutes away from where Soldier Field currently is, said, hey, we're open for business.

Speaker 1 And Governor Mike Braun, who is a former businessman, now governor in Indiana, said, Hey, we're open for business.

Speaker 1 And then allegedly, there was either a law that was pitched already in the books that could involve, I think, sports complexes being built for professional teams with tax-free incentives if you're to build it.

Speaker 1 So it's like everything that we've heard that the Chicago Bears are looking for and any team is looking for whenever they're trying to build these new massive stadium, hotel, shops, restaurants, Patriot Place, Jerry World type business.

Speaker 1 Indiana's like, yep, we got it for you if you really want it. And if you can have it, we got it.
And we're close. We're close.
You can still be that.

Speaker 1 So, AJ, I know Packers fans would make fun of the Chicago Bears fans forever. I think Chicago Bears fans would not be happy at all.

Speaker 1 But it feels like the Chicago Bears relocation thing is just as bad as like when the athletics are trying to leave Oakland here. It's not really going well for them, AJ.

Speaker 7 No, it's not. I mean, come on now.
You can't have the Chicago Bears have a stadium in Indiana. I don't care how close it is.

Speaker 7 Like, if I'm Indiana as governor or mayor, if I'm Indiana, absolutely. Bring them in.
Build your stadium.

Speaker 7 Give me your millions and millions of dollars of tax dollars that are coming in, and we're going to bring all this revenue for sure. But no, the Bears need to be, they need to play in Chicago.

Speaker 1 The Jets and the Giants play

Speaker 1 New York City? No. They're the New York Jets, New York Giants, and they play in

Speaker 1 New Jersey. That's what I thought.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Chicago Bears?

Speaker 7 So maybe it has. I mean, we're negotiating in the public.
That's what we're doing here.

Speaker 1 That's all we're doing. Potentially, but they've done this multiple times.
Kevin Warren has done this multiple times with the Bears, and it has come back not good multiple times.

Speaker 1 Where it said, like, yep, we're doing it.

Speaker 1 Can't get the funding, actually, so we're not going to be able to do it. Well, why'd you say you're going to do it? It felt like you thought you were going to get the funding.

Speaker 1 Well, there's always a chance. And then, we're doing it.

Speaker 3 Where are the Cowboys play it?

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, they ain't got it. Arlington.

Speaker 1 Where are the Niners play? It is the state of Texas. Santa Clara.
Oh.

Speaker 7 We're talking cities. We're talking states.
We're just saying.

Speaker 1 Both. We're just saying there's a lot of lies.

Speaker 11 We're talking about the Midwest Bears here.

Speaker 1 We're talking about the Gare Bears, the Country Bears,

Speaker 1 the Midwest Bears, the American Bears. Is that what you're talking about? Chicago Bears?

Speaker 7 I guess so. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, either way, nothing's happening anytime soon.

Speaker 1 Well, Governor Mike Braun said, actually, we can break ground tomorrow. Right now.
Can't touch Michael Jackson's house. Okay, can't do that.

Speaker 1 Anything else? We got

Speaker 1 that. Gary.
Oh, Gary, you mean?

Speaker 7 Yeah. I used to drive through Gary all the time coming to and from Green Bay.

Speaker 1 See? So you know the land well. So Michael Jackson's house is going to be right there.
The Chicago, sorry, the Gary Bear Casino will be right here.

Speaker 1 You can not only stay at the Gary Bear Casino, which we're getting all the revenue from all the hotel rooms and everything else that's happening right there, you can walk right outside.

Speaker 1 Guess what we got? We got the American Bear shopping plaza right here.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Not just a gift shop, but obviously any actual stores that you could potentially need on a trip.

Speaker 1 You want a new jacket maybe to go hang out? Maybe some gifts? We got 14 different stores here, a full plaza. Build a a bear workshop.
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 And not only can you build a bear, you can also build a nice meal. We got 14 restaurants here that you can kind of.
So basically, you come watch the Gare Bears. You're staying in our place.

Speaker 1 You're eating our food. You're shopping in our stores.
You're gambling in our casino. And you're watching our team in our stadium.
That's all possible.

Speaker 1 Whole weekend. That's right.
That's all possible.

Speaker 3 Not just Michael.

Speaker 1 Tito.

Speaker 3 Also born there. Okay.

Speaker 7 All of them. And the rest of them.
Janet. There's a bunch of them.
And.

Speaker 1 Latoya. And.

Speaker 1 Jermaine. Jermaine.
And.

Speaker 3 That's about as far as as I'm getting.

Speaker 1 You're close, though. I mean,

Speaker 1 I think you're five. Yeah, you were very, very close.
You almost had it.

Speaker 7 Joe.

Speaker 1 Dad, Joe. That could be their pump-up song.
Their renegade turns into ABC.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know me. Oh, my gosh.
Or man in the middle. Don't ray me.
A, B, C. One, two, three.
Oh, my gosh. And then they could,

Speaker 1 in the back of each end zone

Speaker 1 for Only Bears players.

Speaker 1 Maybe thriller. I mean, if we're just going to start listing off all the songs that we know by Michael Jackson, I like that.

Speaker 1 But in the back of the end zone, the Gare Bears' cleats, they'll have secret things in there. They can strap into two metal things and they can do that forward lean.

Speaker 1 Yes. So that could be only in certain spots in the back of the end zone.

Speaker 1 Only the Gare Bears will know the location of. And their cleats, they'll be able to strap in like it's a bike, you know, like a Peloton bike.
And then all of a sudden they're,

Speaker 1 and then the refs are going to be like, if he goes below, what would that be? 45? Yeah. Yeah.
If he goes past 45 degrees, you got to throw the flag. You just can't go to.
Yeah, you can't be.

Speaker 1 You can't do that. Caleb in those things, he's going to 10 degrees.
Oh, my God. I didn't even think about him all the way down.

Speaker 1 He's going to get a matcha, probably.

Speaker 1 A Garrett get which they own the matcha show.

Speaker 1 It might be Caleb's matcha right outside. Maybe Khaleeb's.
Could be. Some say Caleb.
I don't know. Some say Khaleb.

Speaker 3 Romadunze and Luther Burden are out for this one. They just got rolled out.
All right.

Speaker 1 AJ, has that changed anything for you? Packers have a shitload of it.

Speaker 7 No, but with all that being said, I will take the Green Bay Packers on the road.

Speaker 7 I know you want to do it. I know you want to pick, you're going to pick the Bears, but you want to pick Green Bay because you feel and you know that they're going to win.

Speaker 1 That line is.

Speaker 7 But I understand what you're doing here. It's a program.
You got, you know, you got to pick against me. Here we go.
Okay.

Speaker 1 This is a must-win for the Packers. Well, as I saw the GB there, all I thought to myself was good, better, you know, better.

Speaker 1 And then is there best on the other side there?

Speaker 2 I don't know. He's never got to say that against the Packers, so

Speaker 1 you know.

Speaker 1 Ben Johnson said, I can't wait to beat LaFleur two turns.

Speaker 7 2026.

Speaker 1 Close to 2026 though. Maybe the year starts early just like Chicago kind of stretches into Gary, Indiana.

Speaker 1 They were going to realign the states, AJ. That was being pitched.

Speaker 1 Seriously. Very real.
Southern Illinois was about to, like, parts of southern Illinois were about to become part of Indiana. And then I think parts of that were about to go to Illinois.

Speaker 1 It was being pitched. Local news.
Who knows if it's real? Who knows what's being pitched and what's not being pitched? But

Speaker 1 I think the politicians are always spitting something.

Speaker 1 I'll take the Packers.

Speaker 7 Good to see you making nice, rational decisions.

Speaker 7 Oh, no.

Speaker 7 May actually run into a box over there.

Speaker 1 Boom.

Speaker 1 I like the pick.

Speaker 1 Let's move along. Let's go to Sunday's games.
We have the Buffalo Beatles taking on the Cleveland Browns. Bill is favored by only only 10.5.
Once again, the Colts,

Speaker 1 Colts, 14-point underdogs in Seattle. Okay, I thought that was very disrespectful by the books.
I will continue to think that is disrespectful. Buffalo Bill is favored by 10.5 in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 Cleveland's defense in Cleveland crazy. Miles Garrett can obviously get a record for most sacks ever recorded in one NFL season.
Shador Sanders, fresh off a lot of picks. What do you think goes?

Speaker 1 How do you think goes? AJ, who do you like? How do you like it?

Speaker 7 I mean, I feel like this Buffalo Bills team is really rounding into form, and they're really starting to hit their stride. Obviously, Josh Allen doing well.

Speaker 7 So I will take the Buffalo Beals on the road minus 10 and a half.

Speaker 1 15 mile-an-hour wins, 28 degrees, 30 degrees is what NFLweather.com.

Speaker 7 Colder and windier, the better for Josh and the Bills. You know that.
Agreed.

Speaker 1 Slight chance of rain, so it could be a little bit shitty. Give me Josh Allen in the Bills favored by 10.5 as well.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 1 Now, this one's interesting because Canalis, the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, formerly of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, referenced how this particular ref crew loves call pass interference.

Speaker 1 And for Mike Evans, this might be a little bit of a benefit. For the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they might be able to eat off this.

Speaker 1 Now, I know this because shit, we did whenever we were down there with Mike Evans in our weapons that we had. So that could be a storyline that could develop.

Speaker 1 I also appreciate the fact that we're starting to talk about these types of things with ref crews going into it because teams talk about this type of shit with ref crews.

Speaker 1 Hey, this crew is more likely to call hold. This crew is more likely to let it go.
This crew calls the handsy shit. This crew does these types of things.

Speaker 1 So these are the types of conversations that actually happen in buildings. Now that it's becoming public, I like it, especially with the NFC South on the line here.
Who do you like?

Speaker 1 How do you like it in Carolina and Tampa Bay? AJ Hawk.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the Bucks have been a bit of a weird team for me.

Speaker 7 I've picked the Bucs a lot of times. I've been, it's blown up in my face, but I feel confident.
I'm taking the Bucs here minus three, even though they are favorites on the road.

Speaker 7 Why are they favorites? They should be, you should give the Panthers, you know, know, minus three.

Speaker 1 You should need to talk to the sports books for that. So 57% of the public bets are on the Carolina Panthers.
Congrats to them. There's no way that has ever happened.
No.

Speaker 1 In a long time.

Speaker 1 It has not happened in a long time. I'll take the Carolina Panthers plus three at home.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, if you believe in that the Panthers basically have been really shitty one week and then they look like world beaters the next week and then they look really shitty the next week.

Speaker 2 They got beat by the Saints last week. A lot of people saying, hey, that may have been their really shitty game.
They might come out like gangbusters in this one at home.

Speaker 3 To his point, Panthers are 5-1 straight up after a loss and 6-0 against the spread after our loss.

Speaker 1 Kansas City Chiefs, favored by three in Nashville. Gardner Minshew, a quarterback.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. He gets a full week to work with the boys.
Oh, yeah. He's going to want to win.

Speaker 1 Gardner Minshew, perfect quarterback for the situation that the Kansas City Chiefs are currently in, I would say. He's older.
He's respected. He only knows one speed.

Speaker 1 So hopefully that can rally everybody around him to buy in. Andy Reid and the Chiefs have to figure out what the future looks like, obviously, in the offseason.
The present is the Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 1 Cam Ward has come out and said something about wanting to meet all the coaching candidates. Cam Ward, I don't think you should want to do that, and I think you should not say that publicly.

Speaker 1 Just naturally, I appreciate what you mean by that and the sentiment of that. But everybody's natural reaction would be, okay, bud.

Speaker 1 Okay. That is basically what everybody immediately does.
Okay, let's try to do something.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers wasn't even talked to whenever the Green Bay Packers hired their new coach, Matt LaFleur, currently. Some places do it, some places don't.
Tennessee Titans have a lot to figure out.

Speaker 1 Not saying Cam Ward is going to be a bad quarterback.

Speaker 1 Not saying Cam Ward shouldn't feel as if he should talk to the coaching candidates, but Cam Ward should also know that it's much bigger than him whenever it comes to an NFL franchise.

Speaker 1 And who knows what the Titans look like next year with him, without him, move on from him. You know, he has no idea what this looks like anyways either.

Speaker 1 Kansas City Chiefs favored by three with Gardner Minshew. Who do you think how do you like it, AJ?

Speaker 7 I mean, I was thinking of taking the Titans here because I think the Chiefs have never been in this situation.

Speaker 7 A lot of these guys on the team have never been in a situation where you're not going to make the playoffs game. It doesn't really mean a whole lot, but I can't do it.
I'm taking the Chiefs still.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Chiefs are going to play free down there. And you know, hey, a lot of history in Nashville for one particular one of those players.

Speaker 1 A lot of history in Nashville for one of those particular players. Who knows who's going to be singing the Nashville anthem? It's going to be Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 For a team under 500? Chargers. She'll be wearing Chiefs gear.

Speaker 1 Chargers.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 Chargers. Cowboys.
Cowboys favored by two and a half at home. 76% of the bets are on the Chargers.
Yeah, Chargers need this one.

Speaker 1 They are at Dallas this week, but then versus Houston on the road and then at home, rather, and then at Denver.

Speaker 1 If they drop this one, then there is a chance that they finish in that seven seed or after the Colts beat the Niners, damn near fall out of the playoffs.

Speaker 3 Just came out today that Flus will be spending the rest of the season up in the booth, calling the defense from up in the booth.

Speaker 1 Okay, I thought their defense was kind of figuring it out. I like that we're making some changes down the stretch here.
Big fan of that.

Speaker 1 Dak Prescott and Brandon Aubrey had an incredible interaction on hard knocks after Brandon Aubrey knocked the guy down, didn't lose his balance.

Speaker 1 And then also admitted on a side, I don't know what I'm supposed to do in that situation. Obviously, he grew up playing soccer, played soccer a majority of his life, gets a tackle.

Speaker 1 Then I guess he showed up a little bit late to practice, probably had some media obligation. Maybe it was...

Speaker 1 Yeah, I have no idea what he was doing. And as he jogged out after Dak, the entire team was like, okay.
And Dak even goes over to him and is is like, heard a little bit, though, right?

Speaker 1 Hurt a little bit. And Aubrey's like, yes.
It feels like their vibes are immaculate at the Dallas Cowboys. I know that, you know, not everything has gone swimmingly for them this year.

Speaker 1 I know there's been ups, there's been downs. But if you watch the hard knocks, it's hard not to be a believer in Dak Prescott being the face of anything you want to run.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 2 And I think that, you know, I just think back to when they hired Shoddy and just how it was kind of like, not that he was going to be a lame duck, but everyone basically saying like, this is who you guys, you fired Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 2 You had no plan in place, and you just said, all right, fuck it. We're going to hire, you know, Shoddy.
I think he's, I think all those guys really like him. They play for him.
I think he's done.

Speaker 2 I mean, the Cowboys were the laughingstock of the NFL after they traded Micah Parsons. And, you know,

Speaker 2 10 weeks later, we were talking about them being maybe the hottest team in the NFL.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, they're probably not going to make the playoffs, but this season overall, you know, has been a kind of a success for them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're damn near out. 99.9% eliminated from the playoffs.
A lot would have to happen. They would obviously have to win, and many other things would have to fall into place.

Speaker 1 Do you like the Chargers or do you like the Cowboys, AJ?

Speaker 7 I was leaning Chargers, but honestly, you guys kind of talked me into taking the Cowboys. So give me Dak and the boys here.

Speaker 1 I don't know who to take on this one. I mean, for one team, it's a must-win.
For the other team, it's a let's go have some fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which you don't know.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Yeah, I know.
That's why it's fighting loose. That's why, like, for the Chiefs, I feel like the Chiefs are going to play very fucking good because it's just like the first time in forever.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Yeah.
Travis Kelsey hasn't played in a who cares game. What in.

Speaker 7 And think when they come out to warm-ups for that Titans game.

Speaker 1 Like, the stands probably aren't gonna be jam-packed it's gonna be bring your own juice one of those games and the for the chargers i mean this is a third one in the row like they were overtime against the eagles and it was a 16-13 last drive against the chiefs now it's at dallas i think i saw some uh resume uh for the chargers about the most wins against playoff teams or something like that i think the chargers have a lot of like if we're to score good wins i think or uh strength of schedule and shit like that i think the chargers fans were telling me if it might have been another team so maybe i'm misremembering.

Speaker 3 There was I know there was something in the group about teams with records

Speaker 1 above 500.

Speaker 3 Above 500, and the Rams were 10 and whatever, and everyone else was like three and whatever. I don't know if that was it.

Speaker 1 I thought there was a Charger stat somewhere because there was some Chargers fans tweeting me to have respect for what they're doing over there. And it's like, we do.

Speaker 1 All right, I'll take...

Speaker 1 I'll take the Chargers. I'll take the Chargers plus two and a half going over there.

Speaker 1 That's interesting, though, man. That Chargers team.
I want to believe, right? Don't we all?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We do. You don't want to believe? No, not after not after what that child had to hear last week.

Speaker 1 He's just trying to talk to his favorite player. Well, it's not his favorite player.
We know that.

Speaker 1 To one of his favorite players. To a player, yeah.
But on that note, still a child.

Speaker 1 Still just a small boy with an even

Speaker 1 younger sister at his heels.

Speaker 1 Those are influential moments in the history of people's lives. That kid went home and ripped posters down.

Speaker 1 Now, would Dak do that?

Speaker 1 All right, so on that note, give me the Chargers. Because

Speaker 1 Herbert's going to have to walk around a lot of kids. Exactly.
He's going to be fucking sick. So mad.
So mad to see all these people and kids talking to him. Oh, fuck this.

Speaker 1 I fucking hate these people. Why are these people here? This is football.
They're not a fucking carnival. Hit me, Jim.
Hit me. Right in the face.
Actually, hit that kid, too.

Speaker 1 Smack my hand really fucking hard. I forgot he had a broken limb here.
He does.

Speaker 1 Vikings, Giants. Vikings in nine.
Favored by three. Going to take on Dart.
AJ, who do you like? How do you like you?

Speaker 7 I like the Giants.

Speaker 6 Whoa.

Speaker 7 Jeez, that was quick. I don't know why when I saw this game pop up, too.
I like Jackson Dart and the Giants. I really do.

Speaker 1 All right. They can finish the game.

Speaker 1 I'll follow the lead of betting against you. Give me the Vikings.

Speaker 1 Windy, what's the weather here?

Speaker 1 I mean, it might help. It might help

Speaker 8 snow, and nobody's going to fucking be there.

Speaker 7 That's going to be a, you got to, you're going to have just your buddies on the sideline.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just your buddies on the sideline for this one. All right.
I'll take the

Speaker 1 Vikings. Give me nine.
Yes. Give me nine.
Jets, Saints, Saints favored by four and a half. I like the Saints.
AJ?

Speaker 7 Saints.

Speaker 1 Bengals, Dolphins. I like the

Speaker 1 Dolphins.

Speaker 3 What do we think the crowd for that one's going to be?

Speaker 11 Similar to Marie Quinn, yours first started. Place will be cranked.

Speaker 1 Four and a half. Who do you like, AJ?

Speaker 7 I know Joey B is trying to throw us off the scent and act like things aren't really great, but I like Joey B here on the road. Give me the Bengals.
That is.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 He said the same thing last week, and they went out and laid an egg.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 Sammy, models, fashion, warm. Oh, good point.
Give me the Bengals. Give me the Bengals minus four and a half.
Jacksonville Jack, oh, but it felt like maybe a rally around moving on from Tua down.

Speaker 1 Oh, everyone's pumped.

Speaker 7 The center was pumped. I saw the center get interviewed.
He seemed pretty good.

Speaker 1 That's one of our games. Fire coach games, one of them, and new quarterback is one of them.
I'll take Dolphins plus four and a half at him. Let's go, Gump.
Let's go.

Speaker 11 Got to have it.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 no, you had to have had it. No, no, Quinn Ewer's first start.

Speaker 11 Got to have it.

Speaker 1 Well, who's going to coach him next year if he is the quarterback?

Speaker 11 We'll figure that out down the road. We just got to win on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just cover is all we're looking for. Plus four and a half.

Speaker 1 Jags, Broncos, Broncos favored by three in Denver. This Jacksonville Jaguars team's special.
Trevor Lawrence coming off his best game as an NFL quarterback by far.

Speaker 1 Five through the sky, one through the ground, six total touchdowns. They got weapons, they got schemes, and they got a defense that's seemingly humming.
How do you feel about this one, A.J.

Speaker 1 Hawk, with the hot Denver Broncos?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm a big fan of what Trev and the boys are doing down in Jacksonville, but I feel like this is Bo Nix in the Broncos defense on this one. So give me Broncos.

Speaker 1 58% of the bets on the Jacksonville Jaguars. Good for them.
I'll take the Broncos as well. Falcons, Cardinals, just because I need the Broncos, by the way.

Speaker 1 Falcons, Cardinals, three-point spread. 53% of the bets are on Arizona.
Kirk Cousins breaking down every offense in the NFL at press conferences.

Speaker 1 Raheem Morris says everything's on the table for the quarterback position going forward. Ownership says everything's on the table for every position going forward, potentially.

Speaker 1 And then the Cardinals routinely lose by 20 points. That is seemingly who they are now.
What are your thoughts, AJ? Who do you like? How do you like it?

Speaker 7 So Kirko is starting for the Falcons, right, this game? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we just don't know.

Speaker 7 I like the Falcons. I feel like they got to figure it out.
And like you said, you say that the Cardinals routinely lose by 20.

Speaker 7 I don't know if they lose by 20, but I think the Falcons win and cover here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they might lose by 20. Drake London did practice yesterday.
He's missed four straight games. And I think Marvin Harrison Jr.
also practiced.

Speaker 1 I like that. I like the Cardinals team.
I like Gannon, but every time you look at the score, it's just not good. They stink.
Yeah, I don't know what happened. I have no idea what happened to them.

Speaker 1 They got great local commentary team, though.

Speaker 2 Number two in the NFL, some people.

Speaker 1 Number two in the league.

Speaker 3 Also, Trey McBride is 12 catches away from setting the all-time record for single-season catches for a tight end.

Speaker 1 Good luck to McBride. I hope he gets it this weekend.
He has been fun to watch, and his intensity would be great on a good team. So hopefully they're able to become that.

Speaker 1 I'll take the Falcons as well. Raiders, Texans, Texans favored by 14 and a half, over-under 37.5.

Speaker 1 So you start looking at the over-under, and then you look at how big they're favored. They're like, the Raiders are scoring maybe three points in this game.

Speaker 3 Their team total is 10.5.

Speaker 1 Okay, exactly. Shut up by 30 plus, out gained by 300 plus.

Speaker 1 The Raiders, Kansas City Philly became the second team to have multiple such games in a season since the 1947 Colts who are in Baltimore, obviously.

Speaker 1 Shut up by 30 plus and out gained by 300 plus yards. It's only happened one other time in the history, multiple times this season.
This Raiders team is one of them.

Speaker 1 And this Texans team can certainly do it. And I will take the Houston Texans minus whatever.
You as well, AJ?

Speaker 7 Absolutely, Texans.

Speaker 1 Lions favored by seven at home against the hot Pittsburgh Steelers. Aaron Rodgers is going to want to go into Detroit and get a big-time win.
Obviously, he has a lot of history in Detroit.

Speaker 1 Foxy, favored by seven. Love it or hate it?

Speaker 4 Seven's a lot of points. But if you guys remember, Dan Campbell, after a loss, holds the record currently.
I think it's tied for the record for wins after a loss.

Speaker 4 So this would continue that record, break the record. And it's just been a weird season.
Our offense is like number one in every category, but the defense can't stop anyone.

Speaker 4 So I'm expecting a shootout. If it's a shootout, I think Lions win.

Speaker 1 Tom?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I tend to agree with what he said. Lions 5-0 this year off of loss, 4-1 against the spread off of loss this year.

Speaker 3 The one thing that they are horrendous at is their secondary in the passing game. So do the Steelers have the offense to exploit that? I don't know.
I'll be excited to see. This one doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 DK Metcalf gave a great answer on

Speaker 1 Koontz's podcast about Pittsburgh. Basically being, you know, hey, this team just shows up.
This city just shows up to work. You're genuine people.
You know exactly how they feel.

Speaker 1 There's a ruggedness to this city that he appreciates. You're about to work that I like.
I like to hear that from DK Metcalf. I like the Pittsburgh Steelers getting seven going into Detroit.

Speaker 1 Detroit might win the game, but getting blown out at this stage, I don't think this team is going to have that happen to them. Go ahead, AJ.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm with you. I think the Steelers also, they get indoors.
They feel pretty good. Your body feels good.
You're all, you know, your joints, everything's great.

Speaker 7 So, yeah, I'll take the Steelers as well.

Speaker 1 I'm going to for the Demon.

Speaker 2 I was going to say it's not just Rodgers who has the NFC North, you know, memories in that building.

Speaker 1 The Demon.

Speaker 2 I think the Demon's going to score his first touchdown as a Pittsburgh Steeler this weekend.

Speaker 1 I like that. You got a cake from Tom Cruise today.

Speaker 1 Very true. New England Patriots taking on the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday night football.

Speaker 1 Obviously, when you forecast this at the beginning of the season, you you wonder if the New England Patriots are going to be good enough to make this game matter.

Speaker 1 Now, if we were to forecast this Sunday night football game at the beginning or at this stage of the season, it's like, what the hell happened to Baltimore?

Speaker 1 And also, what the hell happened to New England?

Speaker 1 This team, all of a sudden, is Super Bowl favorite, Super Bowl darling, whenever they got a first-year head coach, second-year quarterback, brand new offensive system, and an expectation level going in that maybe next year they'll be good.

Speaker 1 Maybe in the next couple of years, they'll be good. They're good now, and they want it all.
And they're underdogs going into Baltimore. Conman, how do you feel about that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is going to be a tough one to pick right now. Bob Spillane, Marcus Jones, Carlton Davis have mispracticed the last two days, including today.
Yeah, Bobby Spillane. Yeah, boy, oh boy.

Speaker 1 Last week against the Bills when that starting defense runs out and Bob Spillane doesn't run with them.

Speaker 1 That's kind of when you start thinking, uh-oh, Josh Allen might have some fun today. But the Ravens defense has kind of come alive.
That's the real problem. Shutting out Burrow, you know, maybe in,

Speaker 1 maybe not this year, it means as much, but still blanking them means a lot. But three-point dogs, I mean, kind of love it.
Win, and we're in the playoffs, baby. Let's go to the dance.

Speaker 1 80% of the bets are on the New England Patriots. Fuck, man.

Speaker 3 That is not surprising.

Speaker 1 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 What do you mean it's not surprising?

Speaker 7 I thought they'd be favorites. Even on the road, I thought they'd be two.

Speaker 1 AJ, you're taking the Patriots?

Speaker 7 Yes, I am.

Speaker 1 Yeah, me too. All right.

Speaker 1 Let's have the greatest weekend of all time. Hell yeah.
Oh, yeah. You guys want to pick the Jake Paul, Anthony Joshua fight? Yep.

Speaker 1 AJ?

Speaker 7 I love Jake, but I'm going to take Anthony Joshua.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, I am a real

Speaker 1 American.

Speaker 1 So give me Jake Paul.

Speaker 7 Jake said he's going to be coming everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did. And he said fifth or sixth round.
I don't like the angle in which Jake Paul is.

Speaker 1 Choosing to create content here, but certainly getting a lot of eyeballs on the situation that the fight's happening. A lot of people seeing Nancy Joshua pick up Jake Ball and suck his face.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was AI. It was.

Speaker 2 I know. That one, I could tell.

Speaker 3 I still think the Silverback Gorilla might be real.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't love that that was immediately shot down as fake. If that Silverback Gorilla had the capability of doing that, I don't know what that was.

Speaker 1 Whoever shot it down immediately is an asshole. Okay, that's something you got to watch.
10 times before you say, okay, fine. Poop doesn't just come out like a circle perfectly like that.

Speaker 1 Well, you would think if he does have consistent flow out of his cheeks, which clearly he could,

Speaker 1 the window would then be doing the science. Exactly.
And it would disperse at a perfect radius.

Speaker 2 And we don't know. Did they just put some Windex on that exact spot? So it kind of just catches it naturally, makes that shape.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we assume that this man, or sorry, this silverback gorilla has perfected the art of bullet pooping. Yeah.
No doubt. And that was clearly bird shot.
That's what I was saying. Correct.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 7 Just the velocity at which the turds flew out are what threw me off. Like made me think it's probably not real.

Speaker 1 So you've obviously never

Speaker 1 watched them.

Speaker 1 He clutches his butt right there.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he aims it. So like four, he's probably four feet away from the window, and somehow he got turds.

Speaker 1 Three feet. That's one yard, dude.

Speaker 1 Anybody can get a yard. That was believable to me.
You see the gorilla just sit down right before to projectile it. Boom.
He did strategy. Did you see the the muscles?

Speaker 12 I can't rule it out because in sixth grade, we went to Washington, D.C.

Speaker 3 and we went to the zoo, and there was a hippo at the zoo.

Speaker 12 They spin their tails. He pooped with similar velocity, but they spin their tails to chop it up.
So it was impressive to see in person. You ever seen that? It's similar.

Speaker 1 It's awesome. No.
I mean, if Bevo pushed the way that gorilla did, it would have pooped on your back. Yeah, but Bevo is a longhorn.
This is silverback fucking gorilla. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 We don't know. Like,

Speaker 2 did a couple burgers get dropped into the enclosure? Did this guy eat a couple slices of za that day before he had to do something like this? We don't know.

Speaker 1 Hey, Dorito's back.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe it was that. But also, what we would like to say, because he clearly has an upset tummy if you're able to do this.
Yeah. He should be having some of Tom Cruise's coconut bunt cake.

Speaker 1 I couldn't agree more. Yeah, maybe not the venison because my stomach is killing you.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 Dude, multiple times.

Speaker 1 Is it the cheese, you think? Well, I eat the same thing every day. Did you have the cheese? I had both.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe Maybe it was the cheese, not just the venison. You never know.

Speaker 1 You guys get tummy aches every day. Food? What's that, brother?

Speaker 7 You guys like get tummy aches because of food? No.

Speaker 1 Fast food, greasy stuff will get me now, I think, because I'm trying not to eat it as much.

Speaker 1 So I certainly feel like shit, but I think I've just always felt like shit eating it, and it's just been a part of it. Like, yeah, this is just what life is.

Speaker 1 My stomach feels like this, and then I dump it and I move along. Now, whenever you don't eat it every day, you do feel differently when you don't eat that type of food.

Speaker 1 And then when you have it out of nowhere, it's like a hangover. Like when you get drunk, you're both tired.

Speaker 7 I just get tired. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also,

Speaker 1 explosive.

Speaker 7 I've never, like, yeah, I don't know. I've never thought of, like, I've never correlated food to how I feel like that.

Speaker 1 He doesn't eat. That's what you don't eat anything.
He poops like a rabbit. I do.

Speaker 2 AJ hasn't had a normal bowel movement in 15 years.

Speaker 1 He's got rabbit pellets in there.

Speaker 1 He's a 100 wiper. I don't know how he.
That's a good point.

Speaker 1 So now he's acting like that silverback gorilla.

Speaker 1 Okay. Interesting.

Speaker 1 He probably poops like that. Girl.
Yeah, Yeah, he's the vanilla gorilla, and he's out here just judging.

Speaker 7 I instantly thought of

Speaker 7 which poor soul has to clean that glass, is all I thought of. Bringing out like rail pads and scrapers, trying to get those turds off the window.

Speaker 1 That silverback gorilla is not cleaning that. That silverback gorilla is arms crossed watching whoever

Speaker 2 clean it. I'm doing it again tomorrow, too.

Speaker 7 Doing it again the second it gets cleaned. No, right after it gets cleaned, dumps again.

Speaker 1 I would like the Tom Cruise Coconut Cake. Now.
Or we're doing this every day.

Speaker 1 All right. Have an incredible weekend of ball.
We appreciate you so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Before we get out of here, there is an announcement that we have to make.

Speaker 1 Saturday, we'll be doing the field pass.

Speaker 1 Please join us on ESPN2. If we suck, you should leave.
We'll tell you if it's not going well.

Speaker 1 And today we celebrate

Speaker 1 one of the most talented human beings that sits in front of a microphone on a daily basis in the entire world. Maybe the history of the damn world.

Speaker 1 He was smart enough to be an Ivy Leaguer, got accepted to Harvard, said, nah, I want to be a Big Ten angler at Iowa. Give me the boost, give me the football.
I'll figure everything else out.

Speaker 1 We were so incredibly lucky that this guy blesses us every single day with his presence. I would say that he is

Speaker 1 one of the most unique individuals in the history with his talent versus mindset versus off-the-cuff versus script work. He's special.
We're lucky, and it's his birthday. Happy birthday to Ty Schmidt.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday, Ty. Happy birthday, Ty

Speaker 1 We appreciate the hell out of you. I guess the ice cream cake melted.
Uh, shout out to the entire uh group over there.

Speaker 1 Just certainly just put it outside and just left it there for at least an hour or two. Wow, it's cold.
We appreciate it. It was it was ice cream.
No, it's just cream. Um, so that's actually

Speaker 1 this is a TC cake. Okay, so

Speaker 1 happy birthday

Speaker 1 to you.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday

Speaker 1 to you.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday,

Speaker 1 dear

Speaker 1 Todd.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 1 We love you. We appreciate you, buddy.
Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 Appreciate you guys. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 The back can sing.

Speaker 2 Just admit, this is the first time that there hasn't been a bunch of wax all over the case.

Speaker 1 Well, that's because they had to adjust here late. Good for them making an audible.
And yes, to your point, it's crazy how when there's a birthday in the back room, they all sing. Yeah, just us today.

Speaker 1 We were singing the whole time. No, Mike's wrong.

Speaker 1 Didn't see any of it. So, Ty, just know that there is a little bit of a.

Speaker 2 Now I do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, now we just learned that.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I'm not sure. You can send the footage back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's all the audio.

Speaker 1 But we were.

Speaker 3 You see me screaming at the top of my head. Oh, he didn't cut to us either.
That doesn't help.

Speaker 1 Nope. Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, see? Both, actually. See, that's what we're talking about.
My boy, Nick. Thank you, Nick, who didn't turn on the mic.

Speaker 1 And thank you, Foxy, for pointing that out back there. But I would like to let you know, Ty, we love you, man.

Speaker 2 Love you guys too. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday. We're thankful you were born, and we can't wait to see what you do this next year.
Appreciate it. And I'm very proud of you for saying you're going to be

Speaker 1 eating free, clean, and living clean for the next year.

Speaker 1 I'm certainly going to try.

Speaker 2 I got another kid on the way, so I definitely need to try. But you guys heard JJ yesterday.
He said, man, you look slim.

Speaker 1 You look good.

Speaker 2 And no one has fucking said that to me in years. So

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm kind of thinking.

Speaker 2 I'm just fine right now.

Speaker 1 You certainly are. You're more than

Speaker 2 a whole fucking TC cake right after the show.

Speaker 1 Well, I think that's smart. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, the elixir of eternal life, a lot of people would say.

Speaker 1 Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life.
We're going to sing together. AJ, anything for the team here?

Speaker 7 Nope. I'm good.
Thank you, though.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, yeah.
Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 7 I'm not going to fake it. I'm not going to fake one, but yes.
Can't wait for Saturday.

Speaker 1 All right. We'll see you tomorrow.
Game day, 6 p.m. Eastern tomorrow before kicking off the college football playoff.
Game day, Saturday morning, 9 a.m. And then we'll be live.

Speaker 1 Field pass, ESPN 2 for Texas A ⁇ M, Miami. The college football playoff is here.
Week 16 of the NFL season is here. Football, all day Saturday, all day Sunday.
We're back on Monday.

Speaker 1 We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. And in this holiday season, we hope we all enjoy it a little bit more.
We're allowed to do this. We get to do this.

Speaker 1 We're lucky to do this. And we're not dead.
Let's celebrate that. Team on me.
Team on three. One, two, three.

Speaker 1 Goodbye.