‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 2: Who’s Behind the Hotel Robbery?

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Joanna Robinson is here. Mally Rubin is here.
Hello. Hello.
Hello. I'm just, you look great, but you look tired.
Yeah. Might be the drinking.
The old doctor who. Yeah.
Doesn't she look tired? Doesn't she look tired? She looks great. Brutal.
Just looks tired. Anyway.
Mallory's always going after it. You know what I mean? I was going to say to you that your numbers seem like those of a man half your age.
I guess we came in with different energies today. She says that to everyone, though.
All the walking. We are covering episode two, White Lotus.
If you missed episode one, that is already out there. Yeah.
In the library, in the archives, we have intentionally not been watching ahead. We've all made it packed.
It's been very tough. Why'd you make a face? Have you watched ahead? No, I never watch ahead.
I actually hate watching ahead we've all made it packed it's been very why'd you make a face have you watched ahead no i never watch ahead i actually hate watching ahead i'm the problem joe's the problem all right so we taped episode one yesterday and then we had to power watch twice episode two and it's getting good um your favorite thing about episode two joe oh goggins getting to be a bit more gogg more Goggins. Oh.
Yeah. Yeah.
Goggins is back. Yeah.
Great Rick episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was mine too because it feels like now, okay, the Ratlifts were really the stars of episode one. This was a big Rick Chelsea episode.
I'm expecting that episode three as a result will be Laurie, Jacqueline, and Kate time. You can say the Cougars if you want to.
I have a cougar theory.

We can call them the fancy cougars.

I have a cougar theory about why I feel great about calling them cougars.

They're Apex Predators.

I love it.

Are they not?

Yeah.

And they're looking for the weakest one among them to sort of like pick off.

It's wild.

Oh, I like that. But yeah, Rick, like the dinner scene with Greg when he has Greg's number.
She's with Joanna. He goes by Gary now.
Okay. Gary.
Imagine going into hiding for Thailand in a year and being like, you know, Greg, I know what I'll do. Greg's out.
Gary's in. I would have gone like, I don't know, different first letter.
You can't say on the podcast what you're going to hide under one day. No, but I want to hear it.
If I'm Greg, I'm going to like Mitchell or something that doesn't sound remotely like Greg. I'm not just changing the last three letters.
But you want to get longer fancy and be like Aloysius or something like that? They'll never suspect it. No, that, well, for him.
Yeah, probably. But even Michael, just anything.
Michael. Michael would have been totally acceptable.
when he's talking to Gary and he's like what do you do Gary you know that just like that Goggins smile came out and he's just sort of like this piece of shit I recognize you it was great little this little that little this little that so that was your favorite as well Goggins yeah it was just a thrill to have more time with Rick. And for the thing about Goggins that's such a wonderful brew is she likes to gently, lovingly mock me when my Baltimore accent comes out when I say brew.
The menacing quality that's always under the surface, but the fact that you were so magnetically drawn to him, like that was present with Rick in this episode. And the first episode it was like you're really actually just a dick to chelsea yeah and here we got that but like immediately followed by what struck me as like a wave of shame for calling her an idiot we see a lot more emotional range from him and of course we learn yeah after the robbery yeah running to her embracing her yeah and of course we learned some backstory well we talked in episode is like, what's the actual relationship with this? And we were debating like, is this like a prostitute he picked up or somebody who's running a bit with him? You were debating it.
Well, I didn't know if it was somebody he hired because he's trying to do a mission. Chloe, we know.
Chloe, we know. But you're right because Rick was like, I am very sure of what's going on here.
Yes. He clocked it immediately.
But Chelsea, the Chelsea-Rick relationship really... So good.
Yeah. We were like, when are we going to get a sex scene? We get a sex scene in this episode.
What do we? It seems like a prelude. It's a PG-13 sex scene.
Just some nipple suckling. It's a boob grab.
That was about it. Well, a little bit more than a grab.
I think we should note.

A grab with his mouth, but yes.

Walton Goggins, a 53-year-old man, looks incredible shirtless.

Wonderful.

Wonderful.

Oh, my God.

And there just was like some real tenderness, it felt like, between them there.

Agreed.

So you understood their connection a bit better.

Yeah.

And she got a scrub and a wax.

So she was ready.

She was ready.

Scrub wax.

This was the episode. I couldn't get a handle on our girl Amy Lou first episode.
She's very distinct looking. Yeah.
Right? Oh yeah. She's got the big teeth that's like a big feature and she's got this happy and I was like I don't know but by episode two I'm all in.
You're in. She's great.
Mega crush on her now and really worried she's going to die at the end of this episode. She did her stay.
She seems like a pure delight. She said twice in this episode, I almost died today.
Like, I just need the show to stop making us think about how Chelsea could or almost died. It's too stressful.
She feels safe to me. I couldn't tell you why.
My favorite thing in the episode, the Cougars win again for me. was fantastic dave jacoby's trust triangle in action dave jacoby yeah always had this thing our friend dave jacoby about there's three people two are always closer than any other two in the triangle and if you're gonna tell like if i'm talking to you two you two are super close i'm also close to mallory and there would be some trust triangle stuff with Mallory but I think she'd side to you because you have a pod but you just always have to keep the trust triangle in mind if I tell Mallory something will she pass it along who is she closer to and in this case this is so complicated what a rich subplot well case.
She's definitely the Kate. I feel like in a triangle, there's always like a hinge.
You know what I mean? Also, Polly Emery. Of course.
No, but here's the thing. In the trust triangle, I don't think.
I'm tired. But I don't think.
Because you are. That's why I did the best.
I don't think anyone trusts anybody more than anyone else. That's what made this so interesting.
It's like, whatever two are left alone, they're going to talk shit

about the one who's not there

and that's what we've established.

I'm interested to see

Lori and Jacqueline

if they go after Kate,

which there's plenty to go after,

but I just thought

in both of those scenarios...

Oh, that'll be episode three.

You kidding?

I hope so,

but in both those scenarios,

my favorite person to watch

in both those scenarios

was Leslie Bibb as Kate

because there was just something

about her, like,

feline smile

when she's just sort of like, well, you know know and she's just like so excited to dig in like all couched in concern and all of oh my god big fake smile yeah I gotta be honest I didn't know she was this good of an actress she's great it's like kind of a monster performance by her so far I feel like this is part of White Lotus's genius is like sometimes you see someone who you've seen in a ton of things, and then Mike White is like, no, I know exactly what to do with this energy. I have a great idea for this.
I mean, the most fun scene with her was the Parker Posey scene at the brunch. That was the scene of the episode.
I agree. Simply astonishing.
I agree. Because, I mean, Parker Posey also tremendous in that.
I don't know how they filmed that without laughing. Her catatonic smile or just sort of like squinting and smiling.
Oh, my God. That is such a power move.
Could you ever pull that at a restaurant or have you? If someone comes up to you, it's like, do you remember we spent a weekend together in Austin and you just smile at them silently? Just really trying to enjoy my lovely fruit plate here. Just like, should pound fruit right now?

I'm zonked out.

That was so fascinating.

Like,

she did have a beat of what I thought was nervous energy.

Like,

there's obviously a,

okay,

I just am not interested.

I'm here with my family that's on the surface

because she's saying it to them after.

But it seems like maybe she did something that weekend

that she doesn't want Kate to share.

Maybe.

My interpretation is that she doesn't remember.

Because she's just zonked out on drugs.

Because she's zonked out on drugs all the time.

All the time.

And it's one of those,

Like,

you know, something that weekend that she doesn't want Kate to share? Maybe. My interpretation is that she doesn't remember.

Because she's just zonked out on drugs. Because she's zonked out on drugs

all the time.

All the time.

And it's one of those like

nervous covers.

Right.

For I don't remember you.

I spent an entire weekend with you.

Oh, wasn't your hair different?

And then you're a little embarrassed

so you're like kind of bitchy about it.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

And then you sort of

laugh it off with your family

and say like actresses are prostitutes

and just sort of

trying to cover.

That was also a great moment

for all of the actors at the table.

Yeah.

The number of like

meta commentary moments

I'm sorry. laughing off with your family and say like actresses are prostitutes and just sort of trying to cover.
That was also a great moment for all of the actors at the table. Yeah.
The number of like meta commentary moments through these two episodes so far. And this cast is really game.
Like they're really down both in the macro and the specific things about them that they know maybe people have whispered or said. We talked about this off mic.
We talked about it off mic and then it's like we got to bring it on mic in this episode because it was so central to the text.

Like the conversations are just all about these things.

And I mean, you can't cast these roles unless the performers are willing to participate actively in those conversations. For Walton Gong is to be like, I'm not going bald.

And Amy Liu's character being like, okay.

Or then talking about, oh, she had a little bit more than the basics done.

She looks sandblasted. She looks waxy.
Looks a little waxy. Yeah.
She looks great. Everyone looks amazing.
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She looks waxy. Looks a little waxy.
Yeah. She looks great.
Everyone looks amazing. She looks great.
Yeah, yeah. I guess we can go through and dip through some of the major moments.
The Cougars talking about Carrie Coon when she wasn't there. Yeah.
Dude, this was savage. So we learned she got divorced from a freeloader.
Yep. Has to pay palimony.
Has to pay palimony. We learned her daughter is violent.
Yes. Meaning we have to start bashing the New York City school system.
She throws furniture. And how do you raise your kid in New York? Because they're all like sucking each other off at eight years old.
Yeah, but that happens in Texas too. The kids are sucking each other off at eight years old.

It's in the running for best line of the season so far.

But I love...

That's astonishing.

Actually, I cannot wait for them to turn on her, on Kate,

because Kate's little monologue

about how she talked herself into liking beans

is maybe one of my favorite things I've ever seen.

That was wild.

Well, so more backhanded compliments.

Yeah.

She always defined herself by her work. Yeah, brutal.
Didn't get the big promotion. No wonder she looks defeated.
Well, she looks great. Yeah, she does.
She does. She also looks tired.
And then maybe it's the drinking. They're just fucking everything.
They're under the shovel. Everything.
And then all of a sudden she shows up and they have to pretend they weren't talking about her. Shut up.
Genuine jump scare. Genuine jump scare.
She throws herself into a locked door hammered. But here's the question.
Do you think she heard them? I don't. I don't think she heard them, though.
Obviously, she suspects that they're talking about her just from having watched them previously. And then we get that nice bookend of Jacqueline at the end hearing them whispering.
And she just, we don't know if she can make out what they're saying, but it doesn't matter. She knows they're talking.
It's like the exact thing you say. Whenever one member of that group leaves the room, they know the other person is talking about them.
What's fascinating about Jacqueline, her psychology. You mean Jacqueline Lemon, TV star? I loved that we got the full name.
Jacqueline Lemon. Jacqueline Lemon is wonderful.
Wonderful. That she didn't creep up to listen to what they were saying.
Yeah. And I think it speaks to like psychology.
At the end you talk about it. Yeah, at the end she's like they're whispering obviously they're whispering about me.
Obviously they would be jealous of me and talk about me while I'm out there. Yeah, I'm going to go take a bath.
Yeah. Oh, okay.
They must be talking about how great I look. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it's interesting and I feel like the through line in all of the different versions of the trust triangle triangle so far is like concern but it's it's it's it's hot goss like they just can't wait to spill the tea masquerade it as this is human though i don't know like i've experienced this inside of like i don't know if it's cross-gender but definitely inside of female friendships for sure where it's just this sort of like this shit talking couched as concern yeah and but there's that what do you think is going think is going on with this bitch I really hope she's like okay I'm sure she's fine she'll be okay she's a survivor but there's a giddiness survivor yeah but there's like a giddiness that comes to it it's like it's gross let me tell you something I've been with my wife a long time since 1998 this was familiar to you and I've also dated other girls before her yeah this was always my favorite thing about dating somebody is listening to that dynamic of all these relationships and especially if the group gets bigger like in college you have these groups of like 12, 13 girls and there's like five different cliques that all hate each other and then within the little cliques there's drama going on it's amazing it's that's like, it's that specific, no, I love her, but. But.
It's the that, that, that, but. They have really mastered in these two episodes so far.
It's like not even a full beat. It's a half beat, right? Before they either finally jump in.
It's like, oh, I'm reluctant to take the bite. No, I'm going to make a whole meal out of it and dive right in.
Or the inverse of that. It's a vanity.
There's some friends that just will not go there there though like my wife has definitely had a couple over the years that it's like if the shit talking is around they're just out they're like yeah you're like this actually you're not a shit talker no i try not if they're shit talker you're just out you're listening but you're not saying this is what's interesting about this is like and i've been trying to think about their dynamic of we don't have a lot of time with them so far but it's like why are these people choosing to spend time together? Right? I'm at the point in my life, genuinely, you've both heard me say a version of this where I'm like, I kind of like, don't feel like I need new friends. Like it's wonderful when I make a new friend, but I like want to spend time with people I genuinely care about.
Is Joanna your last new friend? Oh my God. I got in before you closed the door.
Yeah. You got in the nightclub.
The nightclub closed. I'll have to think about it.
It's entirely possible. We've like known each other for like seven years and very well for four years.
So I've probably made at least one new friend since then, but I might not have. I'll have to reflect on it.
I feel like when you don't leave your house, you don't need to make a lot of friends. That's true.
So, you know, they're like, you can't really like. Submit the Postmates guy.
Yeah. Well, no.
I mean, Adam usually answers the door. Honestly, I have not met any of them.
The, oh, you can't really make new memories when you only have dinner twice a year. And then Jacqueline's like, I mean, I haven't really even seen Laurie in four years.
Why are they here telling themselves how much they care about each other? It's amazing. It's an amazing thing.
And they each have a, surely a different reason for that. Like for Jacqueline, it feels like it's, this is how I tether myself to some sense of like, I'm still a regular, normal person, but also those people who make me feel that way are going to tell me how great I am and make me feel special.
I think it's the opposite. That's the relationship that lets her feel both of those things.
I think she wants to feel like the most beautiful, rich, famous around her. I mean, my sense is that Kate is also enormously wealthy, but her insecurity inside of this relationship she has with this guy that she's obsessed with who's 10 years younger than her, but she's feeling insecure.
She wants to be around people who are normal so she can feel special. I agree with Joanna.
I think, well, there's also, there's the baggage of these people all grew up together, so they had to compete in a whole bunch of different ways at a younger age. I like that it's like she's telling all the rich and famous and people around her who are making shows.
They're, no, yeah, I'm just going to hang out with my friends from home. But then when she's with them, she gets to feel special.
So it's like it's the one relationship in her life, presumably, that still allows her to, like, access all of that. No, but there's one other piece to that, though.
These are the people that knew her before anything happened to her. Right.
So you're always going to have a different relationship with people that knew you and whatever, right? So now she's this famous actress. She has a manager, an agent.
She has all the people on the show. She has all these fake Hollywood friends.
But these people, hypothetically in her head, these are the ones that know me for me, and yet she's just as fake with them. They're also keepers of the memory.
Like we get the, we add the story about like, remember the talent show we did together? This, that, and the other thing. I found Jacqueline's reaction to finding out that Lori had the same biometrics she had and got the same spiel from Valentin.
Oh, that was the most telling part of the episode. It was so funny.
She was furious that she she wasn't the leader. Is that right? Do you think that's right? My hydration level was one of the highest he's ever seen.
No one will ever say that to me. So we did a live rewatchables and one of your best friends came and hung out with us for the night.
Yes, Allison. She just was Mal's friend who just joined us.
Mal wasn't just constantly going we're best friends we've known each other forever we're so close like you usually say that if it's not actually that close oh and that was the point they made that she said that about that was the point they made about her marriage yeah the fact that you feel compelled to say out loud we're addicted to each other right ultimate red flag i don't I don't trust people. This used to be my thing back in the day a hundred years ago with Rachel Ray.
I'm like, this just seemed like, can anybody enjoy anything? Even the act of cooking? Is Rachel Ray catching strays in 2025? I'm sorry. I should say I have not engaged with any Rachel Ray content in a really long time.
Yeah, I know. But like my sister used to watch it.
This was when I was a kid, like in high school. And I was just like, I of of happiness i just i can't understand it it doesn't seem true we gotta stay on this for a second i'm probably sharing too much but this is the child of divorce energy oh yeah we're just naturally suspicious of love at all times no but this is so i can't get enough of my husband give me a fucking break no i'm i'm sharing too much but i get suspicious when couples do too much social media about their relationship oh yeah i always talk to my i'm like uh-oh somebody's the divorce crows are circling anytime the pictures start coming fast and furious i always assume something bad happened yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't really do any of that stuff i did did get my wife Valentine's Day flowers today.
How lovely.

Four hours into the morning, Adam and I remembered that we had forgotten it was Valentine's Day.

I only remember because we are prepping for our V-Day Quickie broadcast.

I mentioned it to him, and I swear to God, he said,

I gotta go say happy Valentine's Day to Halo.

That was his answer, your cat?

And I was like, me too.

So in that sense, we remain in lockstep. But yeah.
No, but you guys both talk about your spouses and like the stuff that you guys watch together and stuff like that you don't have to like perform it it's the performance that is the red flag and that's where social media gets really interesting but that's like even with these three going away together and I don't know if they're gonna do this in a later episode but like the the Instagram posts and then together, all the phoniness that comes with that stuff, one of them will do it. Lemon, the passing by in the yoga gear.
Alright, so let's go to the rat lifts. Actually, let's take a break and then we'll go to the rat lifts.
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Coming back, the Ratlifts. We just started out with a shot of Patrick Schwarzenegger's butt crack and Lockie kind of checking it out in a way that made me uncomfortable.
Yeah, deeply uncomfortable. Yeah, he is considering the mail form.
That seems clear. Parker Posey slept like a corpse.
I slept like a corpse is, again, so let's consider this. Vicky was my number one last week.
She's my number one again. So, okay, that was my question.
We can do MVPs right now. Clear MVP of episode two.
Does a line like that make you feel sure she's not going to die or sure she is? You're putting her in the death sweepstakes? Okay, I'm always trying to figure out based on what we've seen before. It's the hot messes that have died in the last two seasons.
She's coming out of the gate a hot mess. Is he going to zag off of the hot messes? Armand devolved into a hot mess mess.
Yes. He sure did.
So like it's the drugs or the drinking and the hot messery is like usually leads to Here's the key with her. She's clearly always a hot mess because the family has hit the point when stuff is happening with her they're all like exchanging little looks and she's like oh here goes mom.
So this is 365 days a year she's like this. looks.
Right. Oh, yeah.
Oh, here goes mom. Yeah.
So this is 365 days a year. She's like this.
Oh, for sure. My takeaway.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. She's zonked out at breakfast.
She can't remember Kate. She fell asleep at dinner in the first episode.
She's got to take a pill. She has to take a pill before her massage.
There's a lot. A lot going on there.
That's going to relax you. She was unbelievable.
Also, her ordering the Thai food,

just the way that she was pronouncing it with her twang.

Very good.

Well, we learned Saxton takes Adderall all day.

Just to get shit done.

But before he says that,

he's like his constant sucking up.

I'm like you, dad.

I'm just like you, dad.

I don't do drugs.

Yeah, I would never.

Steroids, no.

Also, the fact that Tim,

our guy Tim,

was very adamant about saying

his body is a temple, right?

I just want to spend

all of my vacation at the gym.

I don't do drugs.

I don't do drugs. I'm still on, and I think we probably all should be, Poison Fruit Watch with this family.
Like, oh, because we're getting a blender. Can we get a sponsor for that? Poison Fruit Watch is brought to you by State Farm.
We're getting a blender from the butler for the poison fruit. Yeah, exactly.
So Saxon trying to use the poisoned seeds for something, and then either his father accidentally consumes it or his mother guzzles it. Something that's like terrible.
The Wall Street Journal coming on location? Well, now— Can I make you a smoothie? Washington Post is in on it, too. They might have a whole gaggle.
Yeah, I'm with you. I was thinking about this, too.
It's the dysfunctional. Rick is our red herring, I think, right?

He's there actively seeking violence and vengeance.

But that's not really where the violence comes from.

It's the dysfunctional crew that ends up delivering it.

And that's the Rattles.

Knowing that there is lorazepam that he's like, I won't take.

But watching him unravel Tim, I'm talking about, over the course of the episode. Is he going to be digging into his wife's readily available pharmacy at any given time in this season? That would affect him angrily sprinting on the treadmill.
That is tough times for the treadmill in this episode. I would not spend my vacation that way, personally.
So we also have the baby shower meeting, which I thought was a great scene. I actually thought Leslie Bibb was really good in that scene.
Oh, yeah. Just keeping the frozen face on.
Do you remember me? We met at a baby shower. So what? Who cares? Actresses are all basically prostitutes if they're lucky.
And the kids are just laughing. Yeah.
They're like, oh, mom's on one and it's breakfast. But this is the family.
They make like the most hideous jokes and then they laugh about it. I love it.
I felt right at home. I bet.
I'm always the Piper. I'm always the Piper.
Piper. It's like a Disneyland for rich bohemians from Malibu in their Lululemon yoga pants.
Yeah. Mike White's, that's it.
That's the show. Mike White's like done.
He's like, bingo. But like, then we see Piper doing yoga, by the way.

Yeah.

Getting a lot of looks

from her LBH.

Lose her back home.

Yeah.

The LBH is checking out.

She looked great,

by the way,

doing the yoga.

Yeah.

Too much uninterrupted

eye contact from that LBH.

Bend your spine elsewhere.

I MD beat her

because she was looking

familiar and it was

driving me crazy.

She was in that devil

to that movie, the late night with the devil. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what she's from. But I didn't make that connection in the first episode.
Did you see that movie? Horror movie. Absolutely.
I think they've styled her so differently for this. Really, really good movie.
Yeah, they darkened her hair and they did some stuff. But the big thing, and it's sad that I thought of Mal immediately, was Saxton.
Oh, the boner. Getting a massage.
I'm like, here we go. The massage boner scene, we're on alert.
And then boom, they went for it. Saxton delivered across the entire episode once again, though, of course.
What do you think for a robotic fake boner under the sheets? Oh, yeah. Was there special effects involved? Yeah, some sort of hydraulic.
Because that thing was moving underneath there.. Yeah, hydraulic of some kind.
Like, blowing up something? Are you hoping that HBO has an end of the episode sort of making of the boner? Can I buy this at a store? Can I surprise my wife with it one night? Like, what? Is this available? Is it on Amazon? How do I get it? I'm sure you can find something similar, yeah. So, then we have Chelsea, who's just talking during her massage.
She's one of those. Yep.
Yeah. We have the dad angly running on a treadmill.
I'm sure this is relatable. What do you do during your massage? It's really relatable podcasting content, but I'm a no talking.
Why are we talking? The whole point is to fall asleep. I just want to listen to the tingling you don't get massages i've only had one massage in my entire life entire vertebrae would just crumble like what if we got you a lorazepam to take before before the massage i don't know what i really feel like you like vertebrae just chip off it's entirely it's entirely possible.
Yeah. Just know what happened.
I really feel like like vertebraes

would just chip off.

It's entirely possible.

Yeah.

Just pretzel dust.

Or I could just

change your life.

I did enjoy the one I had.

It was like a mud treatment.

Oh, yeah.

Very soothing.

Oh, yeah.

Wonderful.

There were a couple treatments

during this episode

that I licked at my wife.

There was that foot treatment

that Belinda was getting.

I was like,

what is that?

That was amazing.

The milk soap. Oh, yeah.
The porn chshise whole thing was, I mean. Agreed.
We hit Parker Posey takes the pills before the massage. Aggressive.
And then let's talk our guy Goggins doing stress therapy. And Lockie in the deprivation tank.
Lockie in the deprivation tank. Also, just by the way, for the Ratliff family, you're killing it, Pam.
She got great treatments for all of them. You're killing it, Pam.
Pam. But then she had to go and tell Tim to get off his phone call.
And he's like, I would feel a lot better if you stopped talking to me. She's like, okay.
Cut it out. You want to talk about Goggins therapy? We learned a lot.
We really did. Learned a lot.
Finally, Goggins showed up for the season. Yeah.
Felt like he was on autopilot for an episode and a quarter. And then now we get some real acting going and some real...
Some heavy story. So his mom was a drug addict, OD'd when he was 10, and his dad was murdered before he was born.
So are we pivoting? By Scott Glenn. So Jim Hollinger is not his father.
He's the guy that Rick thinks killed his dad. Or that was the story he was told, that his dad was murdered, and his dad was actually murdered.
It's one or the other. I think both are in play.
And I think it's even odds for each way that goes. I've never had an identity.
I'm nothing. Nothing comes from nothing, right? Nothing comes from nothing.
This was actually heartbreaking. First time you came close to tears? Or was it the bone and massage? It's good to talk about things of the wise Indian, though, don't you think? I was really moved by this.
I thought it was really sad and touching. Well, it was also touching that Saxton was furious he didn't a happy ending.
And that Parker Posey thought this was hilarious.

Just an unbelievable scene.

She thinks all the shitty things he says.

This is so funny.

They're kind of perfect.

They're the best cup on the show.

And Piper's just like, how is this my family?

Yeah.

How?

Lockie again pulled, right?

The tug of Lockie, tug of war.

But Piper's just like, I just, this is not.

Why do you guys think these things are okay to say?

We get another version of it at the dinner table later. It's an incredible dynamic.
So he's drawing into characters he's kind of messed with before. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Parker Posey's on the Coolidge character corner.
Sure. Jennifer Coolidge character.
We talked about how Saxton is like the Jake Lacey on steroids, basically. Theo James.
Then Piper, pieces of like the Sydney Sweeney and her friend that season one, the two kind of a little bit judgmental, like just you know, I guess she's supposed to be. Ashamed of her family.
She's at the end of college. She's like 20, 21.
Yeah. So she's in that judgmental, I don't really like anybody phase which is, by the way, I'm pure to're the parent some of us never grow out of that it's really great to go through I have no personal experience with this at all but my goal for Parker Posey and Saxton for one of the next episodes Saxton there's no T in the middle I call him Saxton I thought it was Saxton are you sure? In Saxon, yeah.
Foron. There's no T in the middle.
I call him Saxton. Why? I thought it was Saxton.
No. Are you sure? It's Saxon.
Yeah. Mal's right.
Certain. Yeah.
Mal's always right about names. No, I'm not always right about names.
How do you actually have a name mess up two episodes in? I think I said it wrong last week. Oh, is that what it was? I call it Joe.
It's Joe's brother. He's my favorite character in the history of television.
I'm sure I'll mess up other names at some point, but not Dear Saxon. Can we get Saxon and Parker Posey just the two of them going out in the town in Thailand? And going shopping and maybe getting a drink and just like 10 minutes together.
Just then being offensive to each other. We already said there's some serious Targaryen energy from this family.
If Damon could dream about fucking his mom, why can't we get that with Victoria and Saxon? No?

Yes?

You're going Targaryen energy with this family?

They're constantly talking about each other's sex lives.

Yeah, the conversation between Lockie and Piper about her virginity. Yeah, in the ocean hammocks.

Wait, have you ever used an ocean hammock like that?

That seemed amazing.

That looks so nice.

Never.

Oh, my God.

I was hoping you'd be able to tell us what it was like.

That seemed great.

Let's go.

Okay.

And just read in the ocean hammock all day.

You don't like it?

I don't think so.

No, I think hammocks are great.

Yeah.

And it's like. That seemed great.
Let's go. Okay.
And just read in the ocean hammock all day. I don't think so.
No, I think hammocks are great. Yeah.
And it's like you're in it. You're in the ocean.
You're not enough to be refreshed. Yeah.
But also you're above the water. So maybe then you'd get cold, but it does seem very hot there.
It seemed lovely. Well, they have like some of those destination places where they build the hotel.
It's just in the water. Yeah.
I wouldn't be able to do that. No? Like would freak you out.
If there's a big wave, you just all die. One of my best friends just did this for a honeymoon.
It sounded great. Really? If the Maldives wants to sponsor us, I will go to the Maldives.
Maybe that's season four. Then we talked about the cougars with the body fat compliment battles.
Incredible. Let me get more info that she's married somebody who she's 10 years younger than or older than.
Yeah, so truly. Which I was trying to think of the parallels with this in Hollywood.
Aaron Taylor Johnson. Demi Moore, Ashton Kutcher.
Yeah, oh yeah. Oh yeah, Kutcher.
Yeah. Not a common thing though, the famous actress marrying the 10 years younger guy.

Right.

And the implication is that he's also famous.

Yes.

Yes, because he's the object of much attention.

It feels like this will go badly during the eight episode run of the show,

this relationship.

They're encouraging Laurie

as the quote only single one to pursue Valentin.

That's like canon in the show now, right?

There's an illusion to some past at thecapade in Cancun. So Jacqueline going in.
Jacqueline Lemon? Jacqueline Lemon after encouraging Laurie to go for it. And then Jacqueline.
Steps in instead. I mean, maybe, but Laurie just doesn't seem interested in Valentin.
And by the way. Just doing a little eyeglass thing.
By the way, I don't think Valentin's interested in any of the ladies. No, I'm a show.
He's interested in gay talks. Yeah.
Wait. No, no, no.
I have a story about it. Distraction for the robbery.
He's in on the robbery. He's in on the robbery.
Valentin's in on the robbery. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like he stopped to talk to gay talks. Oh, yeah.
At the gate. Oh, yeah.
At that exact moment. Or that was a red herring.
Could be. It could be.
But yeah, the fact that he like stopped and like stopped and was like I have tickets for the fight but he still I mean like he might have just been flirting to get his way but he was definitely flirting with him yeah did you freeze frame and try to see if you could tell any identifiable part of the robber yeah hard to tell I was looking at whether he was white American if he I couldn't tell anything. He was completely covered.

He's covered.

Listening to the voice as well. The other guy

comes out, the driver,

briefly, and

we can't see the face, but I think

Gatak can.

He's not wearing a hood and a hat.

We get a shot of him clocking that guy.

If he goes to the fights on Friday,

I feel like that guy's going to be there. Yeah.
Because he's friends with Valentine. First sports scene in White Lotus.
I mean. Mike White.
Branching out. That's what he, like.
That'd be wonderful. I'm trying, like, not to read too much about this season because, like, people give things away in interviews.
I haven't read one thing. Me neither, actually.
Like, literally not one thing. I will say this is not, like, a detail, but Mike White is saying, like, he tried to push himself in directions that he had not done before.
So a sports scene. I mean, we've heard a shootout essentially already.
It would be crazy if they had like a Muay Thai tournament or something. Just like completely over the top.
We have an extra episode. Yeah.
Maybe that's what it is. The gang goes to the fights.
So how did the robbery?

Yeah.

This seemed too easy.

I find it hard to believe you just

slide into the hotel

and do it.

Inside job

if Valentin is

But there's more security

in the front.

Like everything about it

it didn't totally

sit right with me.

I feel like

Somebody in that mask

you're just immediately

there's three people

noticing that right away.

You can't get in the door. The woman in the front desk was like busy looking down at her monitor.
Yeah. It does seem like there should be people at the door.
I agree with that. No, especially in Thailand you're going to have like two security guards in the front.
And people are walking by during the actual robbery and nobody is paying any attention. Here's my follow-up question though.
It's like Valentin we feel like it's an inside job and Valententine is part of that yes he's a russian he's handsome he's in on it um do you think chloe's in on it because she's like in the dressing room oh this is good and i was just sort of like is she part of this is she like this is why she gets no one no one like. No one like her in the world when it comes to Theory Corner.

I'll be in the shop,

in the boutique. So you think a prostitute

from the Dubai matchmaking site

might have been in

at a high-scale robbery?

If she and Valentin

have sort of a crime ring going on.

Oh, man, I love this.

She was I'm Saxon

in a way where she was cute.

Yeah, he's hot.

But he's also a mark,

is he not?

Yes.

He would be an easy mark.

Yeah.

So if she and Valentin have a little like, let's fleece. I mean, this seems like a little clumsy, a sort of daylight robbery with a gun and everything.
Yeah. But maybe they're getting bolder.
I don't know. Very interesting.
I really like this. I really like it too.
It's a little too like, don't shit where you eat because Chloe does seem to really like these restaurants and shops. So she's compromising her leisure time, I think.

But I like this.

She knows the bartender by name.

Like, you know,

she's like in it.

By the way.

This did lead me to a nitpick though.

Okay. And I don't want to go back to this.

Yeah.

So Greg Gary.

Yeah.

Now Gary.

Mitchell, if you would prefer.

Plays off this incredible

White Lotus heist

of this fake marriage.

Sets this lady up for over a year, gets all her money, hides in Thailand next to another White Lotus?

I know.

That's a little weird.

Yeah.

That's where you're going to end up?

Like, oh, nobody will be able to put these two together.

He's like, I've had a taste of luxury.

I've been to two White Lotuses.

I got to collect them all. Maybe stay near four seasons? I don't know.
It just seemed a little dubious. I did have that same thought.
I think it's a really good note. I guess my counterpoint would be real like no safer place than Hogwarts, no safer place than the Winterfell Crips, like no easier place to freely commit crime and live in sin than a White Lotus.
Not only have now gotten can even poop in a white lotus we talked last episode about like okay just a body bodies dead bodies dead bodies we now have multiples on the robbery front too remember in season one paula and kai hit the i still don't think i still don't think we know the crime rates of the four seasons and so I feel like we wouldn't know alright but by season 7 I'll be with you yeah if there's murder in the Alps yes once we get our cold lotus killed yeah back to the Ratlifts the sisters fed up with Lockie and Sax and they have another great dinner anytime the Ratlifts are at dinner I'm in for like 15 minutes. They don't need to cut away.
I'm just in for all the combos. Yeah, it's unbelievable.
And then Saxon says, you know what they say? Having sex in Thailand is like eating a box of chocolates. You never know which one's going to have nuts.
And the mom laughs hysterically. Vicky thinks it's so funny.
She's like, this is my guy right here, Saxon. It's the funniest thing.
Vicky is quite proud of her dumb son. She's like, I'm racist.
This is it. I made this.
This is my life achievement right here, this idiot. She goes right into making a big speech because Piper, again, is like, my family is gross, right? Calls, refers to her brother Saxon as a freak earlier in the water hammock scene when Lockie's like, so, like, Saxon keeps talking about how hot you are.
How hot are you? And I'm like, what the hell is wrong with my family? But then Vicky goes right into a speech about how they need each other, right? But then what does she say specifically? Most people don't have good values. They're scammers.
Then she starts to praise them. You're all gorgeous.
You come for money, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah.
That powder keg of like- Her husband's the biggest scammer. Yes, exactly.
The first episode ended with her, them in bed, and she's like, everybody tells me what a great man you are. You're such a great man.
Our guy, Tim, is really going through it. And nobody is going to take it worse than Victoria when she finds out that their life is a lie.
When she finds out five years later that it happened after she wakes up from the 90 pills she took. Do you think he would take his own life before his family finds out? Because we get this like really he gets this really sad moment at the end I mean I don't have a lot of sympathy for Tim he sucks but where he's watching them all walk in and they're all happy and talking and he's just sort of like it's the exact opposite of that scene we got in episode one when he's standing like feeling like he has the biggest dick in the world looking at what he's provided for his family he doesn doesn't, his son knows, but yeah.
Well, that ending, it's not just here in the family, but they're talking about a tsunami, which I thought was notable. Absolutely.
Tsunami just takes everything away. What is it? The symbolism corner with William Simmons.
I love that, but also- I'm sorry to be on Joe's corner. No, but should we also, I mean, do you think they would do a tsunami on the show? You know, I thought about this.
It was noted that they made a point of ending a show talking about a tsunami.

Yeah.

Maybe it's all setting up for the eventual cold lotus avalanche that you're predicting.

You build toward a natural it up.

Naomi Watts is back holding on to the glass in the pool.

So you guys both love Victoria.

She's your shared fave. What does it do for your...
Is that Parker Posey's character? Yes. I just call her Parker.
That's fine. That's fine.
What does it do for your sense of Victoria to know that her brother who tormented her is called Uncle Babe? And the one who used to dangle loogies over her nose? Uncle Babe. That sounds very...
I don't know. Please don't email me if this is wrong.
Southern to me. Uncle Babe.
Babe is like a Southern name. I loved this.
Somewhere deep South. Yeah.
Uncle Babe. She probably has a beau.
Uncle Babe and his Loogies. Oh, I love a beau.
Beau's a great name. Angry Dad keeps getting phone calls.
Yep. He keeps having to leave the table.
I mean. I gotta take this.
Can't get Kenny. I'm on a burner.
Joanna, whose voice was this? This is a recent Oscar winner, Ki-Hue Kwon, who won for Everything Everywhere All at Once. And what you pointed out, we were texting about this this morning.
Are we positive that this is the voice? A thousand percent. Absolutely.
And what you were texting, you were pointing out this morning that last season, Laura Dern showed up as a voice-only cameo on the phone. And she had also recently won an Oscar.
So I wonder if Mike White's just trolling the supporting actor category for a recent Oscar winner to do a phone cameo. This is a great tradition.
What I loved about this interaction, it seemed very obvious to me that these two actors were not talking to each other. There were weird, awkward pauses.
I just feel like they had them record it separately. There were some weird awkward pauses inside.
I thought it was the weakest part of the episode. The performance on the phone.
It just sounded like an SNL sketch. They're coming after me! I think Jason Isaac saying, I need a lawyer immediately.
Can we do this now? This is a classic. He's already kind of giving up on the Southern accent.
There was just openly British sentences being said. Yeah, he does not sound Southern at all anymore.
And then he would remember every once in a while. Elongating the draws to try to like stay in it, which is so funny.
Your uncle babe. Best line of the episode for me was, and I only made $10 million out of your speech.
Took money out of the money laundry. Only made $10 million fucking dollars.
Who heard that call? Hardly worth it. Gaytalk heard the call.
Gaytalk hears everything. And we know that he speaks English.
That's confirmed. So he's hearing all of this.
And he hears, if you fuck me on this, I'm going to fucking kill you.

Yeah.

Only a couple other quick things. Double date with Greg.

We get to this and that

stuff. And we get Greg Gary.

And we learn that

he met his lady at a matchmaking

service in Dubai, but thought

she was French, but she's actually from Quebec.

She's quite offended by this.

That is offensive. She's like, it's not the same.
She's Canadian. She's quite offended by this.
That is offensive.

She's like,

it's not the same.

She's Canadian.

She's not French,

you dumbass.

Come on, Gary.

On top of the hug they share after the robbery

and the prelude to the sex scene

and all that sort of stuff like that,

the looks that they share

that Rick and Chelsea share at the table,

that those looks you share with someone

when you're with someone,

you know,

like someone really close to it and you're like, Yeah, I'm in on their relationship. Yeah.
They did a good job with that. We get the musical performance from the matron.
Yep. Ruled.
I thought it was great. Really good.
Yeah. We get the almost ending with Carrie Coon and Leslie bitching about Jacqueline.
Highlights. She's so competitive.
You think with all her success success she'd mellow out. She's a narcissist.
In the vanity. Did she sandblast her face or something? God, she had the face everyone wanted.
Then they start slamming the boyfriend. I don't think they ever see each other.
You know what they say about fronts. The bigger the front, the bigger the back.
No one has ever said that. No one has ever said that before.
Literally no one. Great look on Laurie's face.
I think the key thing about this is she knows they're talking about her and she just doesn't care. She's like, of course, they would be jealous.
She likes it that way. Go ahead, ladies.
Have at me. And then we get an almost sex scene.
But the big thing, Goggins over here is the hotel owner. Yes.
My husband's in Bangkok. He has a stroke.
He's recovering. Which is what you called.
Is he just going to actually tail her? Do we think he's going to just be following her car next episode? I feel like he's going to gay talk, that he's going to Bangkok, and then let's just take that again so I don't say a character's name instead of Bangkok. I feel like he's going to Bangkok and then, what does that mean for Chelsea all alone at the White Lotus? So this is one of my season three, episode three previews.
Could there be a romantic something? Could there be a drinking too much at the bar? Saxon stepping in? Not Saxon, Chelsea. Anyone but Saxon.
This is Mike White.

He's going to make us uncomfortable.

I know, I know.

He has sucked us in with Chelsea

and she has to make a bad decision

with the next two episodes.

I think I prepared for Saxon

to have sex with

literally anyone in the show this season,

including his own family members

other than Chelsea.

Yeah, Vicky's on the table.

Vicky would love to be on the table

to fuck her son. Yes.
Would love to. Cats.
She loves him. Well, they seem like they're getting along, but he's going to Bangkok, which means we get to go to Bangkok.
Yeah, that's going to be fun. With Goggins.
I can't wait. Maybe that's part of what Mike White is talking about.
I'm leaving the resort. We're going to...
An actual road trip. Yeah.
Just like a little ride to the restaurant. He did seem kind of like...
I thought this was also very charming. Hurt when she kept saying how old he was.
She's like, I'm young and fun. And you're old and grouchy.
And he was like, thanks. He was losing her hair.
Yeah. He was like, fuck this.
So the big things we learned,

his dad's dead, but we don't know if he's dead.

There's a money laundering thing that our guy who can't decide what accent he's going to use

made $10 million in his career,

and people know,

and he's about to be really fucked.

There's some weird robbery

that we don't know the mechanics behind it

or who is involved

and if that's a bigger ring

going on,

which is another thing

he loves.

And then something's

going to happen with Lockie

that's not going to be great.

Yeah.

There's a curiosity

with him

that is going to

manifest itself

at some point

during the season.

It really is.

Yeah,

I feel like sometimes

that character, though, like Quinn in season one is the one who ends up actually having a positive experience, like learning something about themselves that's meaningful and actually ending up in a better place at the end of the week. If he lost his iPad in the water and he really rallied back.
Yeah, like tried to jack it on the beach, couldn't, lost his electronics and wound up communicating with nature. It's so beautiful.
So the crime ring front, where are we on monkey corner? Because we did get a monkey call out. That scared the shit out of me.
I thought it was a monkey. There's also constant ominous shots of monkey statues.
Kind of like an actual monkey's kind of crawling towards something. Yeah, it did make me think the fact that there's this like perhaps...
You're in on the monkey theory now. I was like, am I in on Joanna's monkey theory? How did this happen? I don't understand.
Because if people, if there are plants inside the hotel and people are just waiting to try things, it does seem like the actual natural circumstances there, whether it's the poisonous seed pods or the monkeys, like, could really actually come into play. But, you know, we all spent all of season two wondering, like, literally what was going to happen with the head statues.
And of course, it was more thematic. Not a symbol.
Wait, we gotta take a break. We're back.
What were you gonna say, Jo? I was gonna say, can we talk about Mook and Gay Talk? They need a spinoff. They are so sweet.
I love Mook, and I feel like something horrible is going to happen to her now. I won't allow it.
No, they must be saved. I'm worried about him, his hero complex.
I'm worried about— Gay Talk is almost a lock to be dead by episode seven. I think he's— Just lock it down.
I think he's going to be pulled into a bad decision to try to impress her. That's what I think.
Because she's, like, drawn to the Hollinger security guys. They're tough.
They make money. They get to go on adventures.
They travel. They see the world.
And he's like, can you have lunch with me? My mom cooked us a meal. And it's— That's so sweet.
Even though it is super—it was heart-meltingly sweet. And even though, like— And I loved her response, too.
Yes. Because she's just like, we don't—we never been on a date.
Yeah. You can't—what are you talking about you talking about? Right, and also the list of things that they share in common, these ties that buy in them, the fact that they're from the same place, it's like, that's not sexy and fun, right? But when he's hurt, she's worried about him.
The way that she came to check on him was just so sweet, and he couldn't believe it. It was clearly the best thing that had happened in his life, that the person he loves cared about him and wanted to make sure he was okay.
I was like, that was when I got emotional during the episode. It was so sweet.
So you're like, he's going to put himself in danger again just to get another hit of that MOOC concern? Or just like So during the Muay Thai tournament, somebody's going to be like, hey, can you hold this cash? I just won five, like one of those kind of moments. I'm concerned.
Him either holding cash, helping somebody get away with something.

Or he's heard all the stuff that Tim has said.

He has incriminating intel.

What if he tries to use it to get money out of him?

I'm just very worried about it.

I don't think he's going to try to.

I don't, that seems like a...

Did Tim see gay talk listening to him?

I think he probably ignorantly and wrongly assumes

that he doesn't understand him.

I don't think he registered the second time.

I think he locked eyes with him the first time, though. Yeah.
I mean, like you noted, he just flat out hears him threaten to commit murder. So that's worrying.
But yeah, Mook and Gay Talk are the best. All right, let's do one new predictions.
What other corners do you have before we go to predictions? No other corners. I just want to shout out one other person that is a delight to me every time, which is Fabian, the manager, who, like, is singing along all the words while his boss is singing.
He's been writing songs, Joe. He's been learning to play the piano.
When they're like, you should perform. He's like, oh, I couldn't.
I'm the boss. I love him.
It feels very intentional to me after Armand and Valentina that the manager of the hotel is clearly not the main character of the hotel staff this time. He is more of our kind of comic relief side figure.
He takes things so literally and so seriously. Gay talk are the central act and of course the prime ship of the show.
And Belinda. Oh, Belinda and Pornjai.
Those two need to fuck. Belinda and Pornjai.
Oh my god. We should point out that we didn't talk about Belinda for the first 50 minutes of this podcast because She wasn't in it that much.
Because she was the least interesting plot by far. They haven't figured out what to do with it yet.
Guys, so she saw Greg. But she didn't.
Greg Gary. Let's go with Michael.
Greg Gary, Greg Ross. She saw Mitchell.
She saw Pierre. So did it strike you guys that she was like, I know him from somewhere, but didn't actually place it.
Yeah, she can't place it. It almost seemed like she was thinking

that, no, that

can't be him. It was like, that was the conclusion.

So they're going to have to interact again.

He looks familiar, but I can't remember where I know

him from. It's going to be powerful when it clicks

into place, I think.

It was disappointing, because I thought that

was going to be the big episode, too.

Oh, boy. Uh-oh.
But maybe

they're saving it with us. they're still rolling it out.

We've got six more episodes to go guys.

Yeah.

Gary,

what have you been up to?

Yeah.

This and that doing stuff.

A lot of that going around.

Yeah.

All right.

What do you got for theories?

Boy.

I mean,

I'm delighted to welcome all to monkey quarter.

It's like thrilling to me.

It's great.

Great to be here.

Love monkeys.

I'm really into the crime ring idea.

Yeah. Like there's a crime ring at the hotel.
And Hot Mess Express. It's Vicky.
Vicky not making it out feels likely to me. What do you think? Do they do that a season after Hot Mess Express? Jennifer Coolidge doesn't make it out? But Armand is also Hot Mess Express.
But you're right. Maybe it's too close to Jennifer Coolidge.
Maybe we need someone to devolve into Hot Mess Express. Or maybe it's someone who's got it all together this time.
That's my biggest 180 from episode one to episode two. I wasn't positive the Parker Posey character was working for me.
Oh, I know. But you like her now.
And then in the second one, I was like, I totally get it. This is fucking amazing.
The way that her eyes are just like squinted the whole time because she's just blasted. The way she handled the Leslie Bibb that's from Megan 10 years ago.
Just every, the way she was laughing at Saxton Saxton. Who's your number one I'm worried about you? Gay talk.
Gay talk. I'm incredibly concerned.
My number one's Chelsea. Chelsea.
No, I think Chelsea, I just can't maybe bear to consider that something bad happens. I can't bear to consider gay talk.
Me neither, but it just feels like... Let's go for Valentin.
I don't necessarily think he's going to die, but I wonder if he's going to set something in motion that then can't be contained. Like, I feel like he's going to get swept up in this somehow.
Certainly, the Ratliffs all feel like they might just implode. My friend Dave, who's one of the EPs of the show, who I haven't asked him for any information at all, but I did ask him if Amy Liu, if she's cool, and he said she's the fucking best.
She seems awesome. That was the scattering of her.
She seems awesome. She seems great.
I'm interested to see what happens with her the next five years. Because she's definitely got something.
Yeah. I have a question about the triangle of trust.
Yeah. Trust triangle.
I'm so sorry. The trust triangle.
The DJ TT. Do you feel like this is going to come to a head and they're going to actively yell at each other, wild at each other? It's going to be a drunk overhearing thing.
That's going to be a drunk overhearing thing. By the way, the king of the trust triangle, Fantasy and Chris.
Chris Ryan. Like that's locked down? You lose.
If you're the third with them, no matter who the third is, they lose. What if the third is? It doesn't matter if it's Zach Barrett.
I was just going to say, what if the third is Zach Barrett? No, still a loss. What about Andy Greenwald? Fantasy and Chris.
The trust triangle, you lose. Andy Greenwald.
You tell Chris something, he's going to tell Sean. You tell Sean something, he's telling Chris.
You just have to know. Interesting.
Okay. Yeah.
That's the trust triangle in action. I do think Greenwald and Chris have a Andy and Chris.
No, I think fantasy still trumps it. This is a good get ringer game show.
Trust triangle. Have people guessing who wins the triangle.
It would be wonderful. Yeah.
What could go wrong? People wouldn't get mad at all.

This is fine.

This is a fine subject to talk about.

How about you?

Who are you most worried about?

Chelsea.

Chelsea.

Chelsea easily.

And I think Mook is going to make a bad decision with Saxon.

I think that's just a Mike White move. It's just, you don't like this guy and you like this person.

I'm going to do this.

So do we think the spray of gunfire is this crime ring?

Thank you. It's just, I'm going to, you don't like this guy and you like this person.
I'm going to do this.

So do we think the spray of gunfire is this crime ring rather than one of the guests?

I mean, yeah.

Like we've seen a gun now.

So like the Hollinger guards could be involved.

Yeah.

Members of the crime ring could be involved.

The monkeys obviously. The monkeys obviously get a hold of the guns.

Yeah.

The monkeys having ingested the poison seeds of the fruit. I can see Rick having a gun.
But Rick already said he's too nervous to travel with weed. So I don't think he traveled with a gun.
Smart move. He saw Broke Down Palace.
I was going to, I wrote that in my notes. I was like, he's also a fan of Broke Down Palace.
Yeah, he knows. Claire Dance, take me! Take me! But he could procure a gun perhaps.
Yeah. Well, so the big thing that's going to happen for the show from a mixing things up standpoint is when we go to Bangkok.
That's going to open—two things. Bangkok and then if they actually take a talk to the fight or whatever, the sporting event, wherever we're going on Friday night.
He said that it's on friday which is within our week so i feel like we're going right what day of the week would a vacation at the white lotus start sunday a sunday to sunday yeah yeah i always thought i mean it could be any day it doesn't really matter they could have showed up on like a thursday yeah yeah so bangkok we go there, that also gives us a chance to maybe have some new characters

too.

A couple new ones.

Yes.

Right.

I think you're right that we got the episode three or four, we got to get some new people

in the mix for sure.

I'm excited to go to Bangkok.

Me too.

Yeah.

I've enjoyed my time in Thailand.

It seems great.

I'll never go, but it seems awesome.

A real 180 on your take last week when you're like, Thailand, I'll never go there. Even Rick.
I still won't, but I'm really enjoying being there vicariously. Only took Rick one day to opt in.
He was like, I'm not going to eat anything, enjoying all of his meals the second day. Says he's not going to go to his stress management session.
She forced me to sign up for another one. I won't go again.
Yes, he will. Chelsea managing him where she's like, oh, we already signed up.
We're going to have to pay anyway. I guess you got to go.
By the way, my wife does that too. It's an incredible move.
A great move. Great move.
You just lock it down. You can't get out of it.
You would like this place. You're Mr.
Like I'm on a juice cleanse. I did a cold plunge.
Only twice did it get me the coconut balls, whatever that one was. And then when Belinda had her feet in that pool thing.
And I was like, all right. The neck crack and the massage.

Oh, Belinda's stars.

She sure did.

Hopefully not for the last time.

Any more theories before we wrap it up?

Nope.

Mal?

I don't think so.

I think we've talked about what seems ominous or promising for all of our faves here.

So MVP of the first episode, we had Saxon. Yeah, the two of us did.
I don't know if Joe did. You're not, but who was your MVP? Of the first episode? Yeah.
Chelsea? Maybe Chelsea. I really like her a lot.
But episode two, we're all going with Victoria. Yeah.
It's Parker Posey. Or who do you want to pick? Has to be? Yeah.
If I could pick a duo, I would pick Rick and Chelsea.

Or like a unit,

I would pick Rick and Chelsea.

If I had to pick one person,

I would pick Victoria.

Yeah.

I'm expecting huge things

out of Laurie in episode three.

It's huge things.

Feels like it's going to be

a Carrie Coon episode.

You don't bring Carrie Coon to Thailand

to not let her do

what Carrie Coon can do.

I feel like it has to be

a Carrie Coon episode.

What's your apex Carrie Coon moment?

Leftovers.

Crying in the hotel and Leftovers season two.

Yeah.

How about you?

It's always one of those where I like her every time she pops into anything I'm watching.

She's perfect.

It's probably about as high of an approval rating as I've had for an actor or actress.

There's just certain people who are like, oh, this will be good.

She's always amazing.

What if he had just said like Proxima Midnight? Of course. His favorite of Thanos' children.
She's in a Marvel movie. It's sort of.
I gotta look at her IMDb right now. Can you guys fill time for two seconds? Yeah, yeah.
There's Fargo. She's great on Fargo.
She is great on Fargo. You're a huge Gilded Age fan.
I mean, I love the Gilded Age and she, on the Gilded Age, is married to of the great recent loves of my life. But do they give Carrie Coon enough to do on the Gilded Age? Let me try to give you the log line for her character.
They're the new money family, right? And they come in, and she is like, I will not be made to feel less than by the old money. I will win my stake as the leader of the social circle by opening a new opera house.
This is the opera box drama that I heard so much about. It is an entire, I mean, it's really the entire season two plot line.
Okay, and that was delightful, and your face telling you is delightful. Do they give Carrie Coon enough to do in this show? She's like the...
Yeah. It's a slow burn.
Okay. Yonavich? She's...
Yeah. She's great.
She's one of the lead characters. I forgot.
Gone Girl. I loved her in Gone Girl.
Oh, yeah. She was great in Gone Girl.
Oh, yeah. She is great in Gone Girl.
She's sister. She is great in Gone Girl.
No, it's a slow burn. They're going to...
I think she cooks more than anyone else in the show, like halfway through. They're waiting for her.
Yeah. This one, she was just kind of drunk and happy and sizing people up and waiting to see if she could pull Leslie Bibb over to her side a little bit.
The gossip sesh was so good. She did a full body sort of like, I know, like excited to talk about...
Shit talker friends. They all hate each other.
It's great.

Precap you and Mahoney on Wednesday.

Yep. After episode two,

looking ahead to episode three.

And then we'll be back.

Can't wait. Sunday night.

This has been an absolute pleasure.

As always, Kai and Jess and everybody back there.

Kai and LA.

LA Kai.

Unbelievable.

What a thrill.

Thank you, ladies. Good thrill thank you ladies thank you

good to see you

thank you