475 - Rob Reiner, Redacted Files, & The Spirit Of Friendship

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Speaker 2 Silver Bells,

Speaker 2 Silver Bells,

Speaker 2 soon it will be Christmas Day.

Speaker 2 Hello, everyone. And you know what? I don't care if that woman killed her husband.
It's Christmas. I don't care.
I don't care. It's Christmas.
and I'm forgiving everyone

Speaker 2 and I'm

Speaker 2 happy to be here with all of you because we're about to start a new year and it's a time

Speaker 2 for hope

Speaker 2 and we don't want to get mired in the past. We want to go forward to the future.
And this turning point kind of abomination

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 the right wing of this country has turned into like a bad reality show.

Speaker 2 And it's all of the fault of everyone, by the way. It's the fault of everyone speaking and everyone attending and every, there's nobody that gets

Speaker 2 everything

Speaker 2 about this is weird and uncomfortable for everyone.

Speaker 2 And obviously, I'm not saying she killed her husband or knew about it or whatever.

Speaker 2 I'm saying the guy got shot three months ago and she walks out to a pyrotechnic display and then she goes, we're going to elect JD Vance.

Speaker 2 It's weird that

Speaker 2 that's where her head is at.

Speaker 2 It's difficult for many people to relate to. It's not relatable.

Speaker 2 For people that talked about how Hollywood isn't relatable and Hollywood is out of touch, this looks a lot like Hollywood to most people.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 to go out

Speaker 2 through a stream of fireworks and sparklers and stand there in a glittering pants suit and talk about electing J.D. Vance

Speaker 2 three months.

Speaker 2 after your husband was killed, many people feel that there is something off about that.

Speaker 2 And we're starting to see that political people

Speaker 2 are the exact same thing

Speaker 2 as the Hollywood elites that they all love to dunk on.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 we all look at this.

Speaker 2 This is Megan the Stallion twerking. at the Kamala rally.

Speaker 2 This is deeply unsettling to a lot of people.

Speaker 2 It feels like you're being played.

Speaker 2 You feel it.

Speaker 2 It seems off.

Speaker 2 You feel like this is a

Speaker 2 coordinated

Speaker 2 and choreographed spectacle so that you are played. They want your money.

Speaker 2 That's what they got mad at Candace about. They're like, why are you telling people not to give us money? She's also saying you killed the guy.

Speaker 2 Why are you mad about the money? They're just mad that they're not getting money.

Speaker 2 They want your money and they want to be celebrities.

Speaker 2 You know, and okay,

Speaker 2 some of them are,

Speaker 2 but it just feels odd. This is everything they hate.
that they don't like, that they're not about.

Speaker 2 They're not about this stuff. They believe in the sacred family and tradition and blah body blah baby blah and the women are in the house with the kids and what

Speaker 2 what part of the traditionalism is the pyrotechnics and the fireworks and

Speaker 2 it feels really weird

Speaker 2 I mean let's take a listen here to her

Speaker 2 yeah I just you know

Speaker 2 and the woman's been through a lot.

Speaker 2 And I know that,

Speaker 2 you know, people are going to accuse me

Speaker 2 of

Speaker 2 being

Speaker 2 insensitive.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 she feels like she's handling this death better than anyone I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 I've, I mean, and by the way, kudos to her strength.

Speaker 2 I've never seen a human being

Speaker 2 bounce back like this.

Speaker 2 Talk about a bounce back.

Speaker 2 I've never in my life,

Speaker 2 I know people that have lost cats and dogs who couldn't,

Speaker 2 who couldn't do this in the timeframe that she has done it.

Speaker 2 I give her

Speaker 2 her flowers.

Speaker 2 Okay, like, God bless, you are killing it.

Speaker 2 It just feels to people,

Speaker 2 again,

Speaker 2 I have no investment in

Speaker 2 shitting on the woman. I don't care.
I don't agree with a lot of these people. I don't, this organization means nothing to me.

Speaker 2 I don't, I don't think it's a

Speaker 2 evil thing or a good thing.

Speaker 2 I'm looking at this like a reality show that has gone off the rails.

Speaker 2 A reality show where someone, one of the producers of a reality show, because that's the way reality shows work, there are producers who get the women drunk, put them in a restaurant, and go fight.

Speaker 2 And we got to film it.

Speaker 2 And the producers are the ones on the reality show that arrange

Speaker 2 the storyline of what you're gonna hear and see.

Speaker 2 One of those producers here needs to whisper in somebody's ear, hey,

Speaker 2 I don't know what this storyline is,

Speaker 2 but we think there's a high likelihood that this is going to turn a lot of people off, that a lot of people are going to see this. The constant begging for the money, the constant J.D.

Speaker 2 Vance of it all. We're going to elect J.D.
Vance.

Speaker 2 The election's three years away.

Speaker 2 There's something deeply unsettling about this spectacle. It makes Mamdani and AOC look great.

Speaker 2 The far left in this country, the Graham Plattners, they've been, and again, a lot of their policies I wouldn't love, but they seem mature and dignified, truly.

Speaker 2 Because this has become like a weird

Speaker 2 quasi

Speaker 2 religious

Speaker 2 like undertaking that involves

Speaker 2 glittering sequin gowns and

Speaker 2 appeals for more and more money. And

Speaker 2 it doesn't feel, it feels righteous gemstones.

Speaker 2 It has it's righteous gemstones coated a little bit. You know, I don't

Speaker 2 get it. I don't know what this was supposed to be.
Maybe this is what it's supposed to be. Can we listen to a little bit

Speaker 2 of

Speaker 2 friend of the show, Erica Kirk here at Turning Point USA? Let's play. Do we have the clip where she's talking about Vance?

Speaker 2 Let's play that.

Speaker 5 We're going to ensure that President Trump has Congress for all four years.

Speaker 5 We are going to get my husband's friend, J.D. Vance,

Speaker 5 elected for 48 in the most resounding way possible.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I just feel

Speaker 2 I cannot describe to you how, if you were a normal human being,

Speaker 2 this gives you

Speaker 2 pause. Your spidey senses senses go off.
You feel

Speaker 2 odd.

Speaker 2 If you're a normal human being, you look at this and you go 90 days after this guy tragically gets assassinated,

Speaker 2 this has become a

Speaker 2 very, very

Speaker 2 grotesque display

Speaker 2 of the quest for raw power

Speaker 2 led by his widow.

Speaker 2 It's like odd to a lot of people. It's odd.

Speaker 2 There were things about it that were, you know, I'm sure nice. I'm sure they did a memorial.
I don't know, whatever.

Speaker 2 But this politicizing of her,

Speaker 2 I'm the CEO,

Speaker 2 I'm carrying his message.

Speaker 2 That leaves a lot of people

Speaker 2 feeling odd.

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 fine,

Speaker 2 whatever.

Speaker 2 And I'm sure there's a lot of people that love it. There's a lot of people that love it.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 every speech

Speaker 2 that I watched, I only watched a few,

Speaker 2 was a speech that

Speaker 2 And I watched Shapiro and Tucker.

Speaker 2 This is descending into a

Speaker 2 movement about personalities,

Speaker 2 about

Speaker 2 personalities, about people,

Speaker 2 not really about ideas. It's kind of become about people, and it's kind of become boring.

Speaker 2 And it's not to say that there aren't like important

Speaker 2 issues at stake.

Speaker 2 But it feels weird when you're watching it that all of these people have personal grudges and they're airing out,

Speaker 2 you know, things.

Speaker 2 Listen, there are people that I don't get along with

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 may not like me.

Speaker 2 And it's not even that I don't get along with them, they just may view me in a negative light because they are

Speaker 2 they're, you know, they have an impression of me that is negative.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I may feel the same way about other people.

Speaker 2 The minute you go, you start engaging in

Speaker 2 this kind of back and forth and banter, it feels very small.

Speaker 2 The thing kind of degenerates into a very small, petty.

Speaker 2 And even the Trump stuff, it's not as fun. It used to be very fun.
Now it's dark. The Rob Reiner stuff, it gets dark.
I was at a party in Silver Lake, the east side of LA, where the artsy people live.

Speaker 2 And there were people there that probably don't love me.

Speaker 2 But I was there for a friend's special release party, and everyone there was really, really cool.

Speaker 2 And maybe some of them didn't like me.

Speaker 2 And I have no problem with any of them.

Speaker 2 I'm judging based on,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 an idea

Speaker 2 that some of the people there may have hated my guts, but I don't know,

Speaker 2 but, but did, probably.

Speaker 2 But it was a lovely event because nobody

Speaker 2 really

Speaker 2 talked about

Speaker 2 anything that would be

Speaker 2 controversial.

Speaker 2 You know, nothing came up. It was very, and I don't care

Speaker 2 if

Speaker 2 people leave and hate me

Speaker 2 or, you know, I leave and hate them.

Speaker 2 And I don't think anyone's really hating anyone. But I think like maybe there are people there that are like, I don't know about that guy.

Speaker 2 And that's fair.

Speaker 2 But we didn't get into it on any level, nor would we ever

Speaker 2 because,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 I feel like there's nothing to be gained

Speaker 2 from that.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 especially if you can look at somebody

Speaker 2 who you disagree with

Speaker 2 in some real profound ways,

Speaker 2 but say we're both rich

Speaker 2 and successful.

Speaker 2 And many of the people at this party aren't, they're not.

Speaker 2 And even though you may not love some of my ideas and I don't love some of your ideas,

Speaker 2 I respect the fact

Speaker 2 that you are rich and successful. And I just want that respect from you as well.

Speaker 2 And I got it. It's actually lovely.
And we can have

Speaker 2 a very fake, superficial,

Speaker 2 good time

Speaker 2 at this party

Speaker 2 because that's what life's about.

Speaker 2 That is what life is about.

Speaker 2 It's not about getting to the bottom of it. Lies.

Speaker 2 Lies.

Speaker 2 It's not about burying a hatchet. What hatchet? What?

Speaker 2 It's not about

Speaker 2 mutual understanding and it certainly ain't about mutual respect.

Speaker 2 It ain't about any of that. What it's about is a surface-level

Speaker 2 acknowledgement

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 we can

Speaker 2 simulate. This is a simulation,

Speaker 2 and in this simulation, at this moment, we're friendly.

Speaker 2 And we are.

Speaker 2 And no matter what happens, you leave and you could go on social media and go that fascist pig. It's okay.
It's okay

Speaker 2 because when it mattered,

Speaker 2 we both showed up.

Speaker 2 And whoever it is, whoever these people in the world are that you have issues with,

Speaker 2 you can show up

Speaker 2 to be

Speaker 2 a

Speaker 2 fake

Speaker 2 version

Speaker 2 of yourself

Speaker 2 you can be a hollow

Speaker 2 version of yourself you can come and make small talk

Speaker 2 and and build

Speaker 2 on that you can build on nothing

Speaker 2 and build more nothing

Speaker 2 until you have castles of nothing

Speaker 2 and that's where we can all live in castles of nothing.

Speaker 2 Why would we argue about anything?

Speaker 2 We can just,

Speaker 2 we're human beings. People are human beings.

Speaker 2 Okay?

Speaker 2 That's my point. I was at this party and I was like, Harvey,

Speaker 2 fuck, I keep saying,

Speaker 2 I don't know why I'm saying this. And I keep saying Rob Reiner, but instead I'm saying Harvey Weinstein just because it's LA and it's like such a bad, you know.

Speaker 2 At the party, we found out that Rob Reiner was killed by his son, a tragic event. We've all wanted to kill our parents.
We don't do it. You don't do it.
Okay.

Speaker 2 It's the holidays. Now,

Speaker 2 you realize in that moment

Speaker 2 when he is killed by his son,

Speaker 2 you realize

Speaker 2 that life is short. Not for him, he lived a long life, but you realize

Speaker 2 that life

Speaker 2 is precious.

Speaker 2 Why argue

Speaker 2 about nonsense?

Speaker 2 He was at Conan O'Brien's party having an argument with his parents the night before. When you hear that, you realize Conan O'Brien had a party you weren't invited to.

Speaker 2 That's what I I realized. And I thought about that.

Speaker 2 And people said it's horrible that that man lost his life. And I said, where was that party?

Speaker 2 And they said, it was horrible. He stabbed his mother and his father.
And I said, is it in the Palisades house? Because he still has that house. It didn't burn down.

Speaker 2 And they went, well, the kid had been schizophrenic his whole life. He's been in and out of rehab.
And it was like a really big thing. And I go,

Speaker 2 who gets to go to that? Is it like people he handpicks?

Speaker 2 That's That's what's important.

Speaker 2 Do you know how much better this episode would have been if I was at the Conan O'Brien Christmas party?

Speaker 2 Do you know how much more worthwhile this whole thing would have been had I been a witness to that? But I was not invited.

Speaker 2 I was not invited because there's an idea in this town that I'm not a team player

Speaker 2 simply because I have trashed people publicly and privately, privately, and the directors of huge film franchises and agents and managers and business managers and my colleagues, other actors, politicians, members of the judiciary, my family, personal friends.

Speaker 2 Because of that, I am blacklisted from events

Speaker 2 that I would be fucking great at.

Speaker 2 So I'm forced to be in a Silver Lake backyard, okay, making peace with

Speaker 2 whatever,

Speaker 2 like, like, like, like people, instead of being, okay, Emmy winners, a few, one or two, total respect, shows I like and watch.

Speaker 2 But I'm not at other things that I should be at. I literally should be invited to every party in this town.

Speaker 2 And when you hear that somebody was stabbed to death by their child in their house, And before that, they were at a huge party that you weren't invited to. The first instinct you have is why? Why?

Speaker 2 Why was I not invited? Why? I've said nothing negative about Conan. I love him.
I love Irish people. He's brilliant.
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Speaker 2 you know

Speaker 2 you hear the news this man this legend of comedy Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle tragically meeting their end

Speaker 2 and you know you think I never met him I was never invited to his home

Speaker 2 I you there's so many people I have not met that I deserve to meet.

Speaker 2 And that's what you really start to think about. You start to think about the people you haven't met, the parties you haven't been to, the things you haven't done.

Speaker 2 That's what the holidays are about: the real stuff

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 the fake,

Speaker 2 superficial, but lovely chats you could have with many people

Speaker 2 that have a myriad of views and

Speaker 2 they don't have to agree with you.

Speaker 2 You're at a party and they're at a party.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 that's the whole thing.

Speaker 2 And if this guy, and can I say something now?

Speaker 2 Can I just say a thing because I have this platform and it's all I have because I've been robbed of everything else. They've taken everything else from me.
But can can I say one thing?

Speaker 2 And I don't, and I'm not throwing shade at anyone at that party. I'm certainly not throwing shade at Conan.
I'm not throwing shade at any of these people. I think Bill Hayter is a genius.

Speaker 2 I love Barry. People took a photo of him.
I don't even know why. I don't even know why.

Speaker 2 Can I say one thing? Am I allowed on my own platform to say one thing? Had I been at that party and had I spoken to Nick Reiner, Rob Reiner's alive. Yes.
No, he is.

Speaker 2 No, he is. So So I'm not trying to guilt anyone.
I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad. But if I was at the Conan party,

Speaker 2 not even invited, if I was at the Conan party and I could have grabbed Nick Reiner and took him outside and given him a Marlborough light and chatted with him.

Speaker 2 He was probably a fan of this show or other shows I've done.

Speaker 2 Nick Reiner medication for schizophrenia. Yeah, definitely watches this show.
Definitely a podcast fan. I would have been able to convince him with my charm, with my wit, with my personality.

Speaker 2 I'm quick on my feet. I would have been able to say, hey, don't do this.
Hey, don't do it.

Speaker 2 So I'm just saying the people that don't invite me

Speaker 2 have blood on their hands.

Speaker 2 Okay, and I don't mean to say I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm actually not.
It sounds like I am.

Speaker 2 I'm not trying, but if you have not invited me to a party in LA and somebody, and a schizophrenic, my mother's a schizophrenic, I actually know how to handle them.

Speaker 2 I know how to handle them. First of all, the first thing you say to a schizophrenic is, you're right.

Speaker 2 You don't argue with them. When I read they were arguing with this schizo at Conan's fucking house, which I believe is actually beautiful.
I wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 They're arguing with this schizo. You don't fight with a schizo.

Speaker 2 When my mother said something, I I went, you're right, hon. Lock her up.

Speaker 2 You don't argue with a schizophrenic.

Speaker 2 You put them in a home. Now,

Speaker 2 so I don't know what the fight was about. I don't know what it was over.
I don't know if it was political or whatever the case may be. Can you show the picture of Rob and the son?

Speaker 2 Because the son, no, no, no, not that one. You know, the one everyone's sharing where you can see that the son has some problems.
And by the way, it's a tragic thing that happened.

Speaker 2 And it didn't have to happen. Had I been there, it wouldn't have happened.
I mean, I don't know what to say. I know people don't want to hear that.
They're going to be upset.

Speaker 2 This is going to be another thing. I won't get invited to another thing.
Did you hear what he said? He said he would have saved our brother. Well, I would have.

Speaker 2 I know how to deal with schizophrenics, especially in a mansion. My mother was living in a bungalow, and we dealt with her.
I would know how to deal with a schizophrenic in a mansion.

Speaker 2 That's actually what I'm designed for. Can you imagine me and a schizophrenic in a large kitchen? It would work.

Speaker 2 He would leave that house and he would go, that's a great guy I met, and I'm not killing anyone.

Speaker 2 But instead, we had the other thing. I don't know.
It's not that one. It's another one.
But you can edit that one in or whatever. It doesn't matter.
The guy had problems. The guy had drug issues.

Speaker 2 I don't pretend to know.

Speaker 2 Play this a little bit, please.

Speaker 10 Now, Alan Horn.

Speaker 11 He's a longtime friend of Rob Reiner. They were dear friends for over 50 years.
They co-founded Castle Rock Entertainment together.

Speaker 11 Alan's currently a consultant for Warner Brothers Discovery, parent company, of course, of CNN.

Speaker 10 And Alan,

Speaker 11 I am really, it's hard to even find words to say, you know, sorry for this shocking.

Speaker 2 By the way, can you stop that? This is a pet peeve of mine. What do do you mean it's hard to find words? You work at CNN.

Speaker 2 Your literal only job is to find words. No one is asking you to do anything else except find words.
Just find the words. Say, I'm sorry for your loss.

Speaker 2 That's what you say. They all do this.
I can't even find the words. Here they are.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry for your loss. Those are the words.
And why was Tim Dylan not in the party to diffuse the situation? And then that guy would go, who the hell is that?

Speaker 2 And then she would go, you're part of the problem. There's a generational problem here in media and entertainment.
Okay.

Speaker 2 By the way, the podcast awards, they don't nominate Rogan or Theo or Matt and Shane or Come Town. I mean, they should even posthumously, you know, it's not.

Speaker 2 around anymore, but they don't nominate the Tim Dylan show. They don't nominate Bad Friends.
They don't nominate any of of these shows, Flagrant, whatever. They don't nominate any of these things.

Speaker 2 They nominate none of those shows. Yet, those shows are the most powerful shows in the world, supposedly, and elected the president, but none of them got nominated.
That category has no credibility.

Speaker 2 And I like some of the people in that category, Amy Poehler, Smartless, whatever, but you have zero credibility if you're not nominating a few of the shows that I talked about. Not even mine.

Speaker 2 You don't have to nominate mine. Let's hear this, please.

Speaker 11 This is your dear friend, one of your dearest friends. And, you know, for anyone watching, I mean, this is a man that is with you on the day your daughter was born.

Speaker 12 On the day, right, right,

Speaker 12 your daughter, Cody.

Speaker 11 Rob described you as like a big brother to him.

Speaker 10 How do you even

Speaker 11 process the fact that this has just happened?

Speaker 10 Well, Aaron,

Speaker 2 first of all are they going to get to the thing

Speaker 2 yeah we can't watch five minutes are we going to get to the spot where bill hater tried to get him kicked out of the party or something based on what he said

Speaker 2 the couple's youngest son attended the comedian's party on saturday with rob 78 and michelle 68 he was brought to the party so that his parents could keep an eye on him sources told rolling stone

Speaker 2 While there, however, Nick interrupted comedian Bill Hayter with a series of unsettling questions, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 2 Nick allegedly asked Hayter and several other guests the same set of questions.

Speaker 2 What's your name? What's your last name? Are you famous?

Speaker 2 By the way,

Speaker 2 fair.

Speaker 2 Nick allegedly asked Hayter and several other guests the same set of questions. What's your name? What's your last name? Are you famous? I thought he was threatening to kill his parents at the party.

Speaker 2 Are these people angry that he questioned their fame? Maybe they were like,

Speaker 2 maybe they were standing there and he's like, are you famous? And they're like, what are you, a schizophrenic?

Speaker 2 I'm very famous. Rob and his son got into a heated argument during the party with one guest alleging that Rob told his son that his behavior was inappropriate.

Speaker 2 Another guest told the New York Times that Nick seemed anxious and uncomfortable through the night in a way that deeply unsettled them.

Speaker 2 A guest similarly revealed to people, Nick was freaking everyone out, acting crazy, kept asking people if they were famous.

Speaker 2 Nick eventually

Speaker 2 was asked to leave and

Speaker 2 the bodies were found less than 24 hours. It's sad.

Speaker 2 This is tough. I get it.
This is a tragic thing. Titan of comedy, horrible, not good.
I should have been at the party. I would have been able to help.

Speaker 2 Again, I don't want to make it about me.

Speaker 2 I don't want it to be like, oh, it's about me. Not about me.
I was at another lesser event in Silverlake, God help me.

Speaker 2 Lovely people, lovely people.

Speaker 2 Okay. I was at this party.

Speaker 2 And it was lovely. And they had latkes and it was a Hanukkah thing and there was comedy special.

Speaker 2 And it was lovely. It was nice.

Speaker 2 It was a rental in Silver Lake, where I was.

Speaker 2 At a rental.

Speaker 2 While there was someone who needed care.

Speaker 2 Someone who needed care in the Palisades, and I could have been there to help, but I was not. Something to think about in the future,

Speaker 2 but whatever.

Speaker 2 The Barry Weiss town hall with Erica Kirk flopped, unfortunately. It didn't do well.

Speaker 2 And then Barry's now pursuing J.D. Vance for a town hall.
That's going to be a barn burner. And then Elon Musk.
Those are the two names she wants.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 it's not good.

Speaker 2 It wasn't good. It was very boring.

Speaker 2 The town hall was very boring.

Speaker 2 It was just not fun.

Speaker 2 It was like, like terrible.

Speaker 2 Barry, honey, lovey, lovey dove,

Speaker 2 get off the air.

Speaker 2 Get into the back room. Get off the air.

Speaker 2 Nobody wants your pout.

Speaker 2 She pouts, Barry. She has a pout.

Speaker 2 It is not what people want when they turn on the tube, is to see your pout.

Speaker 2 It's not, it's like a disappointed mom energy. We don't want it off.

Speaker 2 Does it work?

Speaker 2 So that flopped.

Speaker 2 The Epstein files, they said they were going to come out. They're not coming out, or they're coming out, but they're heavily redacted.

Speaker 2 500 pages in the Epstein files were entirely blacked out. It's very obvious to everyone that Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence agent that was working on behalf of Israel and

Speaker 2 the United States to a degree. But

Speaker 2 this is why the files are not coming out. They're not, it's not because Trump is protecting billionaire friends that he's never cared about.

Speaker 2 He's not falling on the sword for his friends. That's not the Trump we know and love.
The Trump we know and love is throwing people in front of a car so that he doesn't get hit.

Speaker 2 That's why people in this country elected him. That's the character of an American.

Speaker 2 The character of an American is someone who throws their wife in front of a fire to give themselves another few minutes to get out of the house. That's

Speaker 2 because America is about survival. It's about survival.
It's not an emotional country.

Speaker 2 Like we're all psychotic, but it's not an emotional, like when people call me a nihilistic sociopath, like they do all the time in the press.

Speaker 2 I'm simply telling people what it is, and no one wants to hear it. So they get all angry.

Speaker 2 The idea that this is like a deeply spiritual

Speaker 2 country of loving people, it's like psychotic to believe that. Can you imagine believing that?

Speaker 2 That this country is full of heroic people, heroes, heroes just walking around every day.

Speaker 2 giving of themselves for their communities and families, that you couldn't convince someone of that. You couldn't convince Nick Reiner of that on whatever the hell he was on.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 this idea

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 Donald Trump is falling on a sword for other billionaires that he doesn't want, he doesn't want to be seen, that he doesn't want them to be seen in a bad light. Doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 Let's throw that explanation out. Okay?

Speaker 2 Explanation number two,

Speaker 2 the Cash Patel explanation.

Speaker 2 There's nothing there. There's thousands of pages of documents that have been redacted by the CIA and the FBI, but none of them say anything because nothing even happened.

Speaker 2 Remember, that was how this all started. Pam Bondi and Cash Patel, the Keystone cops, were like, this thing's not even real.
So like, what? It's a hoax. It's fake.

Speaker 2 It's been grossly exaggerated. And none of it, he was a pervert and a freak, but it was no accomplices.
He didn't do anything. They said that.
There were no accomplices.

Speaker 2 There's 15 pictures out right now of Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, and this guy windsurfing or whatever.

Speaker 2 And apparently this guy, you know, nothing was ever happening or going on because this was just like a weird rich guy, a weird pervert. And, you know,

Speaker 2 by the way, it's funny. You see these photos.
This is the only time you've ever seen any of these people having fun.

Speaker 2 So that was explanation number two,

Speaker 2 why they're not coming out.

Speaker 2 Explanation number three, which I find more plausible because I have gotten rid of explanation one and two. And to review, explanation one, Donald Trump

Speaker 2 feels really bad for like other people and wants to protect their image. That was explanation number one.

Speaker 2 That like Donald Trump is like hung up on the idea that like a buddy or two of his might go down here. And he's like, that like bums him out.

Speaker 2 So he's like going to fall on the sword and, you know, basically

Speaker 2 like take the heat for other people in an act of selflessness he was going to throw himself in front of the bus because other people

Speaker 2 might be inconvenienced by this to say the least

Speaker 2 explanation number two

Speaker 2 none of this ever happened

Speaker 2 none of these people ever did anything wrong There was no trafficking ring. There were no accomplices.

Speaker 2 Nothing even happened. Now, that was explanation two, given to you by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Speaker 2 That was their response. Remember, that was option two, given to you by who?

Speaker 2 Your aunt? No, the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Speaker 2 Now, option three, a reason that many people don't think it's coming out is because Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of intelligence agencies in Israel, America.

Speaker 2 Maybe he was working with the Brits, maybe the French, maybe

Speaker 2 he was, he got around.

Speaker 2 And what he was doing was he was a conduit between powerful people,

Speaker 2 people that were current government officials, former government officials,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 corporate leaders,

Speaker 2 you know, whatever, the jet set, as they call them. And Jeffrey Epstein was finding ways for all of these people to make money

Speaker 2 whilst blackmailing them

Speaker 2 and videotaping their liaisons with underage

Speaker 2 people.

Speaker 2 their illegal, immoral, disgusting, evil acts,

Speaker 2 and then keeping the tapes

Speaker 2 or selling them to the highest bidder or

Speaker 2 using them as leverage or whatever the case may be but that would require

Speaker 2 option three would require like

Speaker 2 a

Speaker 2 pretty like

Speaker 2 big public

Speaker 2 fallout

Speaker 2 when

Speaker 2 and if that information became public that our own government or an allied government was blackmailing

Speaker 2 people.

Speaker 2 And when I say our government, I mean factions.

Speaker 2 I don't mean everybody. I don't mean your aunt, who's the comp troller in New Jersey.
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Speaker 2 blackmailing congressmen, senators, presidents, prime ministers. Okay?

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Speaker 2 So that seems to be option three of why it hasn't come out. Like, for example, you don't really have to know much about anything to know right now

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 it seems very likely. And I've talked to smart people who believe that there's kind of a civil war within our intelligence community in America.

Speaker 2 One faction of our, and by the way, there's multiple factions in the intelligence community. It's not like one and then another and then that's it.

Speaker 2 But I'm going to talk about one of the divides that I have talked to smart people about.

Speaker 2 One of the divides is between a group of people

Speaker 2 in the intelligence community who believe we should get out of the Middle East.

Speaker 2 We should not support Israel in attacking Iran.

Speaker 2 We should divest from Russia and Ukraine, and we should prepare

Speaker 2 to fight China.

Speaker 2 There are people in the national security establishment who believe that. This guy, Briggs Colby, who you could bring him up.

Speaker 2 I want to say he works at the Department of Defense. I don't exactly know the position offhand.
He's one of the people whom

Speaker 2 advocates that point of view: that

Speaker 2 we need to

Speaker 2 position

Speaker 2 ourself

Speaker 2 for a,

Speaker 2 you know, potentially inevitable conflict on some level with China. And that getting bogged down with Russia or the Middle East,

Speaker 2 these kind of endless foreign wars, regime change wars,

Speaker 2 you'd also put like Tulsi Gabbard in that group, even though I'm disappointed with Tulsi. about a lot of shit.

Speaker 2 Not that I don't like Tulsi Gabbard or that I don't think she's good at tough mutters and I like people from Hawaii or whatever, you know, whatever she does. I don't, I, you know,

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 2 But I'm a little disappointed by the fact that,

Speaker 2 you know, I don't know, they gaslit

Speaker 2 people and they continue to do so when they when she came out and was like, yeah, all these people are doing this. Say their names.
What are you, you know, like, what are we stupid?

Speaker 2 You know, there's something going on because Joe Kent came out and asked Cash Patel, I want to look into potential foreign intelligence in the Kirk assassination. And Cash Patel's like, fuck you.

Speaker 2 You're not getting any of these files.

Speaker 2 And so you have Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent kind of on one side of this, going, I want to look at foreign intelligence, whatever, whatever happened or didn't happen. We just want to see the files.

Speaker 2 Cash Patel's like, it's an ongoing investigation. You cannot see the files.
And

Speaker 2 fuck you. So right there is a public rift of that war that I'm talking about, that kind of,

Speaker 2 you know, underground conflict between

Speaker 2 factions

Speaker 2 in our intelligence community. You have

Speaker 2 the FBI, you have Cash Patel,

Speaker 2 you have that, the Bureau going, don't compromise our investigation. You have Joe Kent going, we want to know

Speaker 2 about

Speaker 2 what happened

Speaker 2 with the oversight

Speaker 2 here.

Speaker 2 So here is this Colby, Pentagon policy chief's rogue decisions have irked U.S. allies in the Trump administration.
This is a political hit piece, right?

Speaker 2 So this is a political hit piece, okay?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 this is a, this was written in July, I believe, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So this is a faction of people. And this guy is, again, not like the highest level guy, but he's pretty high-level.
And does it say exactly what his position is?

Speaker 2 I think there's a part here about his position on Ukraine. No, his position in the Defense Department.
Oh,

Speaker 13 I think he might be like the undersecretary.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he might be undersecretary. I believe that's what he is.

Speaker 2 Since joining the second Trump administration as the Pentagon's top policy chief.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 So that's a faction. Okay.

Speaker 2 That's clearly not the only faction. There's another faction that wants more interventions, that believes that the power vacuum in the Middle East gets filled by China and Russia.

Speaker 2 And that faction of people is more aligned with neoconservative people

Speaker 2 in those departments. And they want Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio.
And the Colby faction wants J.D. Vance.

Speaker 2 And the Tucker faction, Colby, not the Tuckers, the CIA, but Tucker clearly has a preference for Vance

Speaker 2 and for that foreign policy position prevailing that we should not be

Speaker 2 embroiled in in the Middle East. Although he does like Qatar, he doesn't, you know, because we're not fighting wars.
He would say we're not fighting wars on behalf of Qatar.

Speaker 2 Those are factions. Get up the Joe Kent stuff with

Speaker 2 Tulsi and Cash Patel.

Speaker 2 These are different factions that are fighting for control

Speaker 2 of whatever comes after Trump. And this is kind of a, it's a conflict that

Speaker 2 smart people know about. And I'm not saying if you know about it, if you don't know about it, you're not smart.
I'm just saying like, whatever. You're not reading, you have a life, right?

Speaker 2 So you're like, have a family and a job. So you're not reading all this crap that I read and you talk to these crazy people.
It's all I do all day is talk to crazy people.

Speaker 2 They're interesting to a degree, but they're insane. And, you know, they have very interesting positions all over, you know, in media and government or whatever.

Speaker 2 And they're interesting and they're nuts. And they believe X or Y or Z.

Speaker 2 And you really don't know who's who or who works for who or who's why anyone believes anything and who's getting paid and whatever. It's an odd world.

Speaker 2 But these are the factions that are lining up.

Speaker 2 And it's all about control of money and control of power and who gets their friends in, who gets their people in, who's able to go in with their crew and staff

Speaker 2 all of these agencies and try, because again, these agencies are not always going to be responsive to the incoming administration.

Speaker 2 And they've been trying to fire that that guy forever, by the way. A lot of people want that guy fired.
That's why Politico wrote that hit piece. He tried to

Speaker 2 stop arms shipments to Ukraine.

Speaker 2 His position on this stuff is kind of known.

Speaker 2 But a lot of people don't want that guy in.

Speaker 2 Counterterrorism nominee Joe Kent under scrutiny has emails show he pushed for edits to intelligence assessment. Okay, this is not,

Speaker 2 but here, just to show you who he is, emails obtained by CBS News Show Joe Kent, who currently serves to the chief of staff to director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard.

Speaker 2 So that's what he does, okay?

Speaker 2 He is the

Speaker 2 chief of staff to director Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, whatever, it's kind of a fake job.

Speaker 2 They're trying to do the best that they can, I guess, trying to figure out what the hell is going on. But he asked Cash Patel

Speaker 2 to see the files that they had on the Charlie Kirk case.

Speaker 2 And the request was flat out denied. They're like, no, we're not going to show you what we have.
It's an ongoing investigation. I don't know why it's ongoing.

Speaker 2 I thought they got the guy. And I don't know why.

Speaker 2 He's

Speaker 2 requesting like I don't know why anyone's talking about foreign intelligence with this assassination. Again, I'm confused.
So, but that's, again, just an example of,

Speaker 2 yeah, officials' access to FBI files in Charlie Kirk case drew pushback.

Speaker 2 An inquiry by Joe Kent, who leads the National Counterterrorism Center, is said to have slammed to have alarmed Cash Patel, the FBI director. They don't want him poking around.

Speaker 2 This is not completely unprecedented and rare. The FBI does not like

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 there are other agencies that have oversight.

Speaker 2 The inquiry by Joe Kent, the director of the Counterterrorism Center, alarmed Cash Patel, the director of the FBI, Mr. Patel and other senior officials believe Mr.

Speaker 2 Kent was overstepping, treading on FBI responsibilities and potentially interfering with the investigation and prosecution of

Speaker 2 Tyler Robinson. But supporters of Mr.
Kent say he was doing his job running down leads and making sure no foreign or domestic groups groups were linked to Mr. Kirk's death.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 you see the little schisms happening. We had a very weird shooting at MIT, a weird shooting at Brown,

Speaker 2 horrible shooting at Brown,

Speaker 2 horrible that anyone loses their life ever in a horrible way like that. A young woman, two people at Brown.
Yeah, two people. Two people at Brown.

Speaker 2 And then a nuclear fusion scientist, something like that, right? Yes, from MIT. From MIT.

Speaker 2 And the same guy

Speaker 2 killed all of them

Speaker 2 and then killed himself in a storage shed.

Speaker 2 Let's listen to a little bit of this. Again, this is probably something that will disappear from the news in a day.

Speaker 2 And no one will ever know what happened. But it's fucking weird.

Speaker 2 It's a little weird

Speaker 2 that a guy

Speaker 2 walked onto the campus of Brown, shot these two people, and then shot a guy from MIT, and they killed himself in a storage shed. Let's hear a little bit of this.

Speaker 14 Two shootings at two major schools in the Northeast, and police now say they could be connected. Good afternoon, everyone.
I'm Kira Phillips. We begin with that breaking news.

Speaker 14 Multiple sources briefed on the investigation, telling ABC News the mass shooting at Brown University and the murder of an MIT professor in Massachusetts may be linked.

Speaker 14 Let's bring in our Christian Cordero there on the scene in Providence, Rhode Island.

Speaker 14 Also our chief investigative correspondent, Erin Katurski, plus our contributor and former NYPD Chief of Detectives, Robert Boyce. So, Aaron, what do we know now?

Speaker 9 Law enforcement sources tell ABC News, Kira, that the shooting at Brown University that killed two students may, in fact, be connected to the shooting death, the apparent murder of MIT professor Nuno Lolero, who was shot and killed on the foyer foyer of his Brookline home on Monday night, pronounced dead on Tuesday morning at the hospital.

Speaker 9 At first, the FBI said there was no known connection, but in the last 24 hours, sources told ABC News that the investigative teams on both the cases began to compare notes and information started to gel that the two shooting incidents may in fact be connected.

Speaker 9 The authorities have not said this publicly, but this is what we're hearing now from multiple multiple law enforcement sources. We also understand that authorities may be close to naming a suspect.

Speaker 2 So we have the suspect.

Speaker 2 We have the guy that did this. He's dead and he killed himself in a storage shed.
What's his name? I don't know why

Speaker 2 nothing seems to make sense anymore. And I don't want to sound like a nut.

Speaker 2 And I'm not saying and alleging that we're always, everything's a lie all the time, but it is just odd that like crimes used to have motives. You know, when I grew up, crimes had motives.

Speaker 2 Like somebody would do something and there would be a tangible reason as to why that person did it. And the news media would doggedly try to find out why the person did the crime.

Speaker 2 And now that that's, that's kind of less of a thing.

Speaker 2 Now you're just now it's like clue. It's like a weird thing of clue where they're like

Speaker 2 He killed someone in the meat locker with the hair, with the hair dryer. And you go, okay.

Speaker 2 And he's like, well, he shot somebody in the frozen foods aisle with,

Speaker 2 you know, the bazooka.

Speaker 2 And you go, oh, okay, but why?

Speaker 2 Well, we don't know. Right.

Speaker 2 Well, he was basically, he had a samurai sword and he was in the phone booth and he cut the guy's head off. But nobody really knows why.

Speaker 2 A Reddit post from a homeless man at Brown University helped investigators find the mass shooter.

Speaker 2 Well, thank God.

Speaker 2 Thank God that, by the way, this is Cash Patel's FBI.

Speaker 2 It has now come down to a Reddit post from a homeless person. So if you're killed in this country, you better hope that a vagrant tweets about it so that Cash Patel can find out.

Speaker 2 Hope they tweet at FBI director, at cash, I just killed someone. Literally Reddit pages where homeless people post

Speaker 2 are the only people doing any investigations in this country. Them and Candace Owens.
Let's watch this.

Speaker 13 This was just them like searching for the snow for footprints.

Speaker 2 Oh, good. Look at this.
Look at the FBI searching for footprints.

Speaker 2 This is the biggest joke.

Speaker 2 I mean, they're doing a dance. These people are doing a dance.

Speaker 2 They're doing a ceremonial dance because they just did a human sacrifice.

Speaker 2 Who was the guy that got shot at MIT?

Speaker 2 Who was that guy?

Speaker 13 His name is Nuno Lolora.

Speaker 2 And what did he do? He was a scientist, right? He was a nuclear fusion. He was a nuclear fusion scientist.
And now Trump just signed a deal with a fusion company, like today.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And there was a guy on the board of that company, I think, who knew this guy.

Speaker 2 Why is Truth Social Owner

Speaker 2 merging with

Speaker 2 Why is Truth Social Owner Trump Media merging with a fusion energy firm?

Speaker 2 So on a day after this guy gets whacked, Trump Media and Technology Group, owner of Donald Trump's Truth Social media platform, announced a merger on Wednesday with a company developing fusion energy technology.

Speaker 2 Interesting. Fun.

Speaker 2 Fun.

Speaker 2 And this guy who's a fusion scientist gets whacked the day before. Again, I'm not saying there's anything there.
It's just fun to note.

Speaker 2 Who is the suspect? Go back to that. So a a Reddit thread posted by a homeless guy.
You don't think of the homeless on Reddit, but I imagine many of them are.

Speaker 2 Let's read this here. Is there, yeah.

Speaker 2 Police are probably going to sift through a lot more Reddit posts in the future. One of those online posts played a big role in helping investigators find the suspect who killed two students in Brown.

Speaker 2 Remember, Kej Patel, they said they had the guy, they used geolocation, whatever, you know, they traced his phone, and then they had to let him go. This is what they do over there at the FBI.

Speaker 2 They find someone, and then they announce to the public, they're like, we've used geolocation to find the, and then they have to let them go. Great.

Speaker 2 The 48-year-old suspect, Claudio Neves Valente, was found dead in a New Hampshire storage facility Thursday night.

Speaker 2 Authorities say he killed Brown University students, Mohamed Aziz, Umerkozov, and Ella Cook, and then murdered MIT professor Nuno Luriero.

Speaker 2 It took investigators a long time to ID the suspect after the mass shooting Saturday night in Providence, followed by the assassination of the professor Monday night.

Speaker 2 Then on Tuesday, authorities received a tip from an anonymous source about a Reddit post on the Providence subreddit, according to the affidavit.

Speaker 2 The Reddit poster, a homeless man, claimed that he saw the suspected shooter walking in the area of the Brown University mass shooting. Quote, I'm being dead serious, reads the Reddit Post.

Speaker 2 The police need to look into a grey Nissan with Florida plates, possibly a rental. That was the car he was driving.
So Cash Patel and the FBI are now relying on the homeless

Speaker 2 to solve the crimes. No, no, no.
Folks, they're relying on the homeless. The reason the Epstein list isn't out is because the homeless haven't gotten involved.

Speaker 2 This is why Cash Patel didn't realize that there was a human trafficking ring that Epstein was running because a homeless guy hadn't posted about it on Reddit.

Speaker 2 The Federal Bureau of Investigation is now depending on the homeless in the country.

Speaker 2 Up until that point in the investigation, police had not released any videos with a great Nissan or vehicle with Florida Plates. Based on the tip.

Speaker 2 So basically the homeless are doing a better job than Cash Patel's FBI. And Cash Patel, by the way, while this is all happening, is on a podcast with his girlfriend.

Speaker 2 He's on a podcast with his girlfriend. Okay.

Speaker 2 Dan Bongino just left the FBI to come back to podcasting. Welcome back, brother.
Who predicted that a year ago? The guy that didn't get invited to Conan's party, that guy.

Speaker 2 Bongino's coming back to a place where he can make a goddamn difference. The desk.

Speaker 2 Come back to the podcast world.

Speaker 2 We can make change here. It's not like the fucking feds.

Speaker 2 Can we watch a little bit of this abortion?

Speaker 2 Can you, this is the director, folks.

Speaker 2 This is the duration. I'm going to campaign for AOC.
I will campaign for Mom Donnie. I am putting the Burke on.

Speaker 2 This is the campaign. I'm sorry.
This is the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. This girl in Brown University was shot in her face and tragically lost her life.

Speaker 2 And I'm not even kidding anymore. She tragically lost her life.
She was shot in the head. Okay.

Speaker 2 This fool with his girlfriend is on a fucking podcast. Katie Miller, Stephen Miller's wife.
This isn't even a high-rated podcast. This isn't even a big one.
Okay?

Speaker 2 This isn't even a big fucking pod. This ain't call her daddy.
This is some dumb shit. This is not even worth it.
They don't even get good views.

Speaker 2 Let's watch a little bit of this. Disgusting.

Speaker 15 On a personal level, of course, I wish we didn't have to deal with the attacks. Like, she should be out there touring.

Speaker 2 She should be out there touring. Call

Speaker 2 AOC. I'm giving her money.

Speaker 2 I swear to God. And I'm not, I was never even.

Speaker 2 Listen, I was never a huge fan of this guy because I didn't know much about him. And it felt weird.

Speaker 2 It all felt weird. And now it's fucking insane.
But I am donating money to, I mean, it's just,

Speaker 2 this is couldn't have, I mean, it's just, it's good for my show and it's good for the podcast world, which is why Dan Bungino, I think, is coming back to us.

Speaker 2 Because truly, that's what this is good for is like, it's fodder. But what an embarrassment for the country.
She should be out touring. We don't like the attacks.
She should be out touring.

Speaker 2 There's a girl at Brown University that's shot in the face. Fire him.

Speaker 2 Fire him. Are you people fucking nuts? You're up at Turning Point USA,

Speaker 2 arguing with each other, calling each other fucking feds or whatever. And this guy who's a legitimate fed is saying his girlfriend should be touring while someone got shot in the face.

Speaker 2 And they don't have the person who did it. And he's deciding to go on a podcast.
It's a bad reality show. It's fucking terrible.
Here, let's go.

Speaker 2 Weird set as well. Not a good set.
Keep going. Sorry.

Speaker 15 Collateral consequence of just being the FBI director's girlfriend. But I think with the hypersensitive nature of the media, especially the social media space, people come at you because

Speaker 15 it takes me back to like when I first did a investigation.

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Speaker 2 This is what the Republican Party is because, I mean, it's like it's really insane. The Democrats will and should win the midterms and hopefully, you know, they should win the next election.

Speaker 2 If they can be sane,

Speaker 2 they may or may not.

Speaker 2 But if this isn't some kind of fuckery with this thing with the MIT and the dead in the storage shed, if this isn't something, if something dark isn't afoot, then I truly don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 There used to be crimes that would have a little bit of, that would make some sense. And maybe this one will make sense.
There used to be motives.

Speaker 2 You used to go, yeah, that guy, somebody was fucking his wife, he killed them, not good, but you know, you understood it in your mind.

Speaker 2 Now you just, again, you have, it's mad libs.

Speaker 2 It's mad libs

Speaker 2 where you go, MIT. You write it down.
You go, MIT,

Speaker 2 nuclear scientist,

Speaker 2 this guy's here, that guy that, if you talk about it, you sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 2 If you literally were to just tell somebody the actual facts of this, you would sound like a conspiracy theorist without mentioning any conspiracies, by the way. If you just said

Speaker 2 there was a guy, he was a nuclear fusion scientist, MIT, crawling with spies, shot in his house. Then at Brown University, this girl got shot and then some other guy.

Speaker 2 Now they found the guy who did it because a homeless guy posted on Reddit and then the FBI director decided to take a break from his girlfriend's tour schedule to try to arrest a guy who actually

Speaker 2 was another weird guy who knew this guy he shot. I think they knew each other.
Let's find that article. They kind of knew each other.

Speaker 2 And he ended up killing himself in a storage facility in New Hampshire. If you

Speaker 2 were to just say that,

Speaker 2 you would sound like you were trying to say something else. But everything now is mask off.

Speaker 2 Everything is mask off. We're at the end of whatever this thing has been, whatever you want to call it.
Democracy, oligarchy,

Speaker 2 you know, an attempt at representative government. It is mask off.
And all of the factions that I'm talking about are fighting for

Speaker 2 a peace and essentially the peace.

Speaker 2 And that includes the teal tech people, which is, you know, Vance's, you know, would have to eventually, I guess, make clear

Speaker 2 what exactly he feels about these people and,

Speaker 2 you know, what exactly he thinks their role is in a government. They want an AI government.
That's obvious. They want to get rid of people in all kinds of positions of power.

Speaker 2 They don't really believe in the government.

Speaker 2 That's a faction.

Speaker 2 The permanent war machine, that's a faction.

Speaker 2 The global open borders, free trade,

Speaker 2 protect trade routes and,

Speaker 2 you know, ports that are very aligned with the permanent war people, that faction, that's a group. That's a faction.

Speaker 2 The The closed border, paleoconservative, get ready to fight China, get out of the Middle East, anti-Israel, that's a faction.

Speaker 2 The pro-Israel people are a faction that care only about the Greater Israel Project and believe that the United States should be supporting Israel and everything it does. That's a faction.

Speaker 2 All of these people are factions. The Qataris are a faction.
They're getting involved in the game and they're saying, we want advocates in America. We want to give people money.
All of these people

Speaker 2 are factions and what they are fighting for is the last bit of meat

Speaker 2 on the carcass of this empire.

Speaker 2 This is absolutely what is quite obvious. Nobody is pretending anymore that it is anything other than that.

Speaker 2 That's exactly what it is. People know that in the next however many years, it is going to get pretty bad with AI, with climate, all of these things.

Speaker 2 And they need to figure out how they're going to ride all of that out and get to the next thing, whatever the next thing is.

Speaker 2 And they don't say it explicitly. They're not going to bring it up, but they do hint

Speaker 2 every now and then that there's going to be a next thing. They don't believe that democracy has worked.
They think it's too corrupt.

Speaker 2 One side says it's the NGOs and the courts, the non-governmental organizations, and they have points. The other side

Speaker 2 says it is the,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 patriarchy.

Speaker 2 the prominence of white men in positions of power,

Speaker 2 the,

Speaker 2 stained history of our country, and that all these things need to be erased and replaced with a system where they have more power.

Speaker 2 It's just a fight till the end here. Slain MIT professor's physics career flourished as his suspected killers floundered.
Claudio Neves Valente and Nuno Luriera were once peers.

Speaker 2 Decades later, Valente is believed to have killed Luriero days after a rampage at Brown University. So maybe this guy was settling a score.

Speaker 2 The two young men were peers, brilliant aspiring scientists working toward a degree at Portugal's most prestigious engineering school, a white building at the top of a grassy plaza in Lisbon.

Speaker 2 A quarter century later, both were in the United States, but their paths had diverged radically.

Speaker 2 Nuno Luriero was a physics professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, a beloved mentor who researched the behavior of plasmas.

Speaker 2 Claudio Neves Valente was living in Miami, his scientific career long discarded.

Speaker 2 On Monday, Valente hunted down Luriero authorities said, shooting him at the home he shared with his wife and three daughters near Boston.

Speaker 2 This sounds like a musical.

Speaker 2 This sounds like a fucking weird musical.

Speaker 2 These two Portuguese nuclear scientists. What the fuck's going on?

Speaker 2 What the fuck is going on? I grew up in a country where Americans used to kill each other over things like this.

Speaker 2 For Valente, it was the second act in a deadly rampage that began at Brown University 48 hours later when he burst into a lecture hall and opened fire, killing two undergraduates in an economics study session.

Speaker 2 Valente subsequently killed himself in a storage unit in New Hampshire.

Speaker 2 Police said an autopsy conducted Friday, but the New Hampshire Medical Examiner's Office concluded that Valente died Tuesday from a gunshot wound to the head.

Speaker 2 Investigators have not yet revealed a motive for the attacks, but both have links to Valenti's long-ago days as a student, first at the Instituto Superior Tecnico and then at Brown.

Speaker 2 At Brown, Valente targeted a building at the heart of the university's physics program. It's a place where he would have taken classes during his brief time enrolled.

Speaker 2 So maybe the guy had a total mental snap.

Speaker 2 In Loriera's case, authorities believe the two men knew each other.

Speaker 2 And in 1995, both were enrolled in the physical and technological engineering program at Technico, as the school is known in Portugal.

Speaker 2 Nuno

Speaker 2 Morias, a fellow Technico student at the time, said he knew both men. Valente was one of the best students in the class, highly competitive and driven.

Speaker 2 He showed no signs of having mental health struggles back when they were students.

Speaker 2 Lorierio, or whatever, I'm fucking all these names up, was also an excellent classmate, but more relaxed than Valente. He described both as friendly.

Speaker 2 Loriero slaying has shocked the scientific and engineering community in Portugal.

Speaker 2 Tragedies like this should should make us think carefully about the mental health toll of a, quote, hyper-competitive culture.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 What? Like, again, sure, but is that what happened?

Speaker 2 Were they fucking back in the day? Does this guy hate this guy a lot?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know what's going on.
Maybe the guy had a mental break.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know. All right.
I don't know. I don't know anymore, folks.
Miriam Adelson pledges $250 million for a third Trump term at a White House Hanukkah party.

Speaker 2 Well, finally, some good holiday cheer. Let's take a look.
Miriam Adelson, friend of the show,

Speaker 2 with Donald Trump. The thing about Miriam Adelson that I like is there are people that are super villains and conceal it.
Miriam does not believe that is her journey.

Speaker 2 Miriam believes that her fashion sense should

Speaker 2 put out a super villain vibe. And I believe everyone should have their own kind of style journey.
And let's take a look here. This is again President Trump, Miriam Madelson.
Here we go.

Speaker 16 And

Speaker 16 now I met Alan Dosovich and

Speaker 16 the biggest thing about four more years.

Speaker 16 And I say, Alan, I agree with you. So we can do it.

Speaker 16 Think about it. Alan's here.

Speaker 2 Some blessed. Where's Alan?

Speaker 16 Alan is here.

Speaker 2 Oh, he had a flight.

Speaker 16 Alan is here.

Speaker 16 Think about it. Thank you.
Maybe I'll give you the first one of Tony or second.

Speaker 2 Yeah. She said, think about it.
I'll give you another 250 pounds.

Speaker 2 I will give you. But her husband, Sheldon, was an amazing guy.

Speaker 2 You know, they seem to be good friends. Here's the thing.
She's trying to suck money out of the country to do a genocide, and he's kind of paying her back for investing in him after that

Speaker 2 January 6th thing.

Speaker 2 But here's what I see. Get that up again and just play it without volume.

Speaker 2 As I get older, as I'm 40 years old, you know, I could be disappointed about the genocide or, you know, I could even be disappointed in him about, you know, selling America out, the insurrection, whatever.

Speaker 2 What I see, though, is a friendship. I actually see a good friendship, like a genuine friend.
You know, as you get older, there's less and less people you can relate to, and they're both billionaires.

Speaker 2 You know, they're at the end of their lives, or maybe not, but it seems like it. I mean, they're older

Speaker 2 and they've done a lot together. She helped him get elected.
He helped her, you know, pulverize, you know, women and children and men. But here's the thing.
There's a friendship here.

Speaker 2 It's kind of a real friendship. There's a great affection.
You can tell by their body language. He respects her.
She respects him. She's a tough operator.
So is he. You know, that, you know, folks,

Speaker 2 it's what the goddamn whole thing's about.

Speaker 2 It really is. Let's take a break from the nonsense for a minute.
That's what it's about.

Speaker 2 That's what your life is about, having a couple of buds,

Speaker 2 having a couple of buds that you can look back and say, look what we did. You know, in 15 years when Gaza's some AI Miami and they're both long dead, but somebody's doing Coke,

Speaker 2 you know, it's some rave,

Speaker 2 and they talk about these people, you know, they're gonna, there'll be a little statue of Trump down there, and there'll be probably a statue of her.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, Trump and Miriam, they'll talk about Trump and Miriam. They'll go, how did we do this? Didn't a bunch of people used to live here? And people will go, yeah, but it'll be like,

Speaker 2 you know, I'll be like, yeah, people used to live here. They used to live in this whole thing, you know?

Speaker 2 And then they'll talk about these days and they'll talk about the days before the Great War, you know, and, you know, they'll talk about the times before America was destroyed in, you know, a world war.

Speaker 2 And they'll talk about Trump and Miriam and how they had the foresight to suck the money out of the country now before we defaulted on the dollar and before the Great War.

Speaker 2 You know, before we started losing our standing, before the dollar was no longer the reserve currency. They're going to say that Miriam,

Speaker 2 you know, at the very tail end of our empire, Miriam got the money out of Donald Trump, but she had to give him money to win it. She had to bet on him to get it.
She had to make the bet to get it.

Speaker 2 And that, my friends, is friendship.

Speaker 2 Believing in each other is friendship. Believing in each other, knowing that, well, we got a few years left before this whole thing goes tits up.

Speaker 2 This thing's going tits up.

Speaker 2 Look at the economics. We got a problem here.
But it doesn't matter. The people are becoming more nationalist.
They're asking for food and health care. Gross.

Speaker 2 But in order to do that, because it works for a while, you know, get you, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and fucking, you know, start a hedge fund, you pussy, or whatever, you know, whatever that works for a while.

Speaker 2 And it's not working that much anymore.

Speaker 2 So Miriam knows four more years. She goes, let's get it all done.
We can do it all.

Speaker 2 Alan Dershowitz, that pedophiles defender, who's also credibly been accused of pedophilia allegedly alan dershowitz she goes you know he he he wrote a book about you doing another term it's all good it's all good it's all good and you know you you see them together when he gives her a hug and he gives her a kiss

Speaker 2 they've pulled off something amazing when you think about it sure we all suffer uh for it and it hastens the destruction of our country and it hollows us out financially and culturally, socially, many other ways.

Speaker 2 You know, and it'll come back to bite us when the refugees from the countries that they destabilize come back here and start randomly attacking us. But whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 2 For a minute, let's think about a great friendship. A decades-long friendship between casino magnets

Speaker 2 who are tough operators and understand that the true way the world works

Speaker 2 is this.

Speaker 2 This is the true way the world, it's not Turning Point USA and the sparklers and the bullshit,

Speaker 2 the fucking karaoke sing-along they're doing. This is the way the world works.
People like Miriam Adelson is how the world works and probably how it is always going to work. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 If Putin had dinner with that woman, he'd go, God, Miriam, relax. You know, I mean, she's a fucking tough, like,

Speaker 2 but she's got a beautiful friendship with our president. And if it's going to end,

Speaker 2 if it's going to end, and if our country is going to be completely ruined,

Speaker 2 as I fix my hat, shouldn't it be for friendship?

Speaker 2 Shouldn't it be for two people who love each other and care about each other and believe in each other? Isn't that the great story?

Speaker 2 That's the great story that no one is telling here.

Speaker 2 Shapiro and Tucker, they're all arguing and fighting. But the real story is this friendship between billionaire psychopaths

Speaker 2 it's the most american thing

Speaker 2 that you can you can do

Speaker 2 become a billionaire

Speaker 2 with money that people have given you because of crippling gambling addictions

Speaker 2 use that money to win an election At that point, you start sucking money out of the treasury to, after you've genocided a bunch of people in the Middle East, then build,

Speaker 2 get this,

Speaker 2 more casinos

Speaker 2 on their graves.

Speaker 2 Folks,

Speaker 2 that right there

Speaker 2 is the Christmas story.

Speaker 2 It's about friendship. That's what it's about.

Speaker 2 So to Donald Trump and to Miriam Adelson,

Speaker 2 happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas,

Speaker 2 and may you always find each other. You may not be in the same country.

Speaker 2 You may not be in the same city or the same room.

Speaker 2 But there'll be moments when Trump thinks about Miriam and Miriam thinks about Donald. And whoever goes first will speak of the other fondly, truly.
And that is something that not everybody gets.

Speaker 2 Some people live their entire life without a great friendship, like a phenomenal friendship, you know?

Speaker 2 And when I look at these two, I say to myself,

Speaker 2 they've both

Speaker 2 experienced the joy

Speaker 2 of having an amazing...

Speaker 2 an amazing friendship and supporting each other in times

Speaker 2 when

Speaker 2 they're both down. He's called an insurrectionist, what a fascist, she's called a genocidal maniac, whatever.

Speaker 2 Just words, whatever.

Speaker 2 They always come back together. That's what makes it super special.
R.I.P. Rob Breiner,

Speaker 2 horrible end.

Speaker 2 Very sad thing, but he knew joy. He knew success.
He had a great life.

Speaker 2 And he was invited to Conan's fucking party. Good night.

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