Rep. Clay Higgins

Speaker 1 It has been exactly three years since January 6th, the events of January 6th, the racist insurrection that shocked this nation to its core more profoundly than anything since Pearl Harbor plus the Civil War.

Speaker 1 And it has taken a while, honestly, even for people who aren't on the side of the professional liars to realize there's something amiss about what happened that day.

Speaker 1 Not just the response, the largest law enforcement mobilization in the history of the United States, that was obviously disproportionate because it wasn't the worst riot that year, not even closed.

Speaker 1 But the day itself, there was something about January 6th that didn't feel right.

Speaker 1 And hovering over that day has remained the question, to what extent was it a setup?

Speaker 1 And we still don't really know. But what's interesting is how few people have asked that entirely legitimate question.

Speaker 1 One of the very few, really one of the only in the United States Congress, is a member called Clay Higgins from Louisiana. And in case you haven't seen this clip, it's worth rewatching.

Speaker 1 This is from 2022 in a Homeland Security Committee hearing where he asked it just directly of the FBI director.

Speaker 2 Watch.

Speaker 2 Did the FBI have confidential human sources embedded within the January 6th protesters on January 6th of 2021?

Speaker 4 Well, Congressman, as I'm sure you can appreciate, I have to be very careful about what I can say about when even now, because that's what you told us two years ago. May I finish

Speaker 4 about when we do and do not and where we have and have not used confidential human sources.

Speaker 4 But to the extent that there's a suggestion, for example, that the FBI's confidential human sources or FBI employees in some way instigated or orchestrated January 6th, that's categorically false.

Speaker 3 Did you have confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol on January the 6th prior to the doors being opened?

Speaker 4 Again, I had to be very careful.

Speaker 2 It should be a no.

Speaker 3 Can you not tell the American people no? We did not have confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters positioned inside the Capitol. Gentlemen's time has expired.

Speaker 4 You should not read anything into my

Speaker 4 decisions not to share information. Director Ray.

Speaker 3 Gentlemen's time has expired.

Speaker 1 What a sleazy, repulsive little authoritarian liar Chris Ray is. That's obvious when you watch that tape.

Speaker 1 The sad part is so few tapes like that exist because so few have confronted him directly and asked questions to which the entire country has a right to know the answer, like that one.

Speaker 1 Clay Higgins did that. Congressman from

Speaker 1 Louisiana, Lafayette, joins us in studio. Congressman, thanks so much for coming on.

Speaker 2 Thank you for having me, Tuck.

Speaker 1 So that was over a year ago that you asked that question, which is a central question, and you asked it as I think is appropriate without any embarrassment at all on behalf of your constituents and the rest of the country.

Speaker 1 Are you any closer to the answer now?

Speaker 2 Well, we're closer to

Speaker 2 being in a position where we can reveal the answers that we already have.

Speaker 2 Much of the evidence that we have compiled

Speaker 2 from investigative effort over the course of the last couple of years, Some offices like my own, sort of operating in silos of investigative endeavor

Speaker 2 have now been able to jo come together now that we have a Republican majority and we have access to the to the to the staffs of the appropriate investigative committees and so I sit on the oversight committee and we Republicans run that committee now and therefore we control the staff so when you can magnify the efforts that individual

Speaker 2 members of Congress have have have pushed within our own offices. When you can magnify those efforts by the skill and the numbers of staff from the committees,

Speaker 2 you get a lot of evidence reviewed professionally and aligned and assembled into essentially a case file. And in this case, this is a big file because the

Speaker 2 the involvement of

Speaker 2 certain actors,

Speaker 2 and you could say deep state state actors within the federal government to set the stage for

Speaker 2 what happened in J-4, 5, and 6

Speaker 2 and to

Speaker 2 entrap thousands of Americans from across the country and to lure them into this set stage on J-4, 5, and 6.

Speaker 2 The people that were involved in that

Speaker 2 is quite a large web.

Speaker 2 So, yes, sir, we do have a great deal of evidence compiled,

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 we're gradually, professionally

Speaker 2 rolling that evidence out. Aaron Powell,

Speaker 1 you sort of answer the question right there in larger terms. You just said that elements within the federal government, I assume law enforcement, intel, and military,

Speaker 1 and I'm using your words, lured

Speaker 1 Americans to Washington into what you called a trap.

Speaker 2 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 So that would, I mean, that's a shocking, and I assume that's a sober conclusion based on the evidence. That's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 That would be my sober assessment as an investigator. And

Speaker 2 I'm quite a

Speaker 2 I love my country and

Speaker 2 I've always been a staunch defender of the thin blue line. And I would proudly count the FBI amongst that number.
It's like brothers to me. So to find that level of

Speaker 2 corruption at the highest levels of the FBI

Speaker 2 has been very troubling to me as a man, as a cop.

Speaker 2 And yet,

Speaker 2 you know, you follow the evidence wherever it leads. And this is what investigators do.
So

Speaker 2 when I asked Christopher Wray that question, for instance,

Speaker 2 I already knew the answer. I had reviewed.

Speaker 2 compelling evidence that

Speaker 2 FBI had assets, human assets, dressed as Trump supporters, inside the Capitol prior to the doors being opened and the masses allowed in.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I knew that the FBI was deeply involved. I'd seen evidence, even at that time,

Speaker 2 that the FBI had embedded themselves into various groups online across the country of Americans who were essentially voicing their concerns and airing their grievances with each other about COVID oppression.

Speaker 2 And those Americans were targeted by the FBI, almost universally Republicans and

Speaker 2 largely Trump supporters, but the FBI worked undercover to infiltrate those conversations and become

Speaker 2 a significant part of those individual Americans'

Speaker 2 communications. And when you dig into the evidence that we've had revealed through some criminal cases that I've followed and worked with the families of J-6

Speaker 2 political

Speaker 2 detainees and Americans that have been persecuted for their involvement in the Capitol that day.

Speaker 2 Some of that evidence is shockingly reveals that

Speaker 2 the FBI agents that were operating undercover within the online groups across the country

Speaker 2 were the first ones to plant the seeds of

Speaker 2 suggestions

Speaker 2 of a more radical occupation of the Capitol.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 they were sort of testing the waters of who amongst that group

Speaker 2 would begin

Speaker 2 acknowledging that,

Speaker 2 you know, yeah, maybe we should do that. Maybe we should plan for an occupation like that.
But if you look at the origins of those conversations,

Speaker 2 they were started by the FBI undercover guy that was operating inside the group. And then months later,

Speaker 2 on January 4th, 5th, and 6th, many of those Americans met for the first time in person. when they gathered for the massive rally

Speaker 2 where American patriots assembled to object to

Speaker 2 everything that had happened during 2020, the COVID oppression, and

Speaker 2 the stunning results of what we believe was a compromise election cycle in November 2020. So Americans gathered at their own Capitol

Speaker 2 to

Speaker 2 appropriately air grievances and protest

Speaker 2 at their Capitol. But embedded amongst their number

Speaker 2 was an FBI asset that had been working from within their group online for many months. So this was the level of

Speaker 2 manipulative effort that the FBI invested into the American citizenry and our assembly online to

Speaker 2 exercise our rights under the First Amendment. to talk to each other about whatever we want to talk about, including

Speaker 2 the insidious suppressions of COVID that we were suffering across the country. So,

Speaker 2 and our concerns about where the election was going, the whole mail-in ballot thing, we could see the stage was being set for

Speaker 2 a compromised election cycle, possibly. And to our horror, that's what happened.
So,

Speaker 2 FBI had fingerprints on this thing

Speaker 2 for many months prior to J4, 5, and 6.

Speaker 1 I I want to go back to something you said in the first sentence, which is you have seen evidence, and that spurred your questions to Chris Wray, that there were FBI assets dressed as Trump supporters within the Capitol.

Speaker 1 So that is proof of entrapment, because of course the federal government could have prevented entry into the Capitol building. There aren't that many doors.
You work there, you know.

Speaker 1 But they allowed people in on purpose to entrap them. That's what that proves, I think, does it not?

Speaker 2 Well, it's certainly condemning. It's another piece

Speaker 2 of the strategy

Speaker 2 that the government employed to sort of complete the entrapment of Americans that they

Speaker 2 had

Speaker 2 infiltrated and then prodded and provoked online with

Speaker 2 those original seeds planted of... of

Speaker 2 actions like, you know, what type of gear to wear

Speaker 2 just

Speaker 2 in language that incited behavior that could go the wrong way, you know, pushing

Speaker 2 actions of legal and legitimate peaceful protest

Speaker 2 to an edge where those Americans would likely not have gone had they not been,

Speaker 2 you know, encouraged. by the FBI

Speaker 2 plant amongst their number that they didn't know was there. So by the time it was actually J6 and

Speaker 2 you had masses of Americans assembled outside the Capitol,

Speaker 2 like

Speaker 2 99.9%,

Speaker 2 100% peaceful.

Speaker 2 On the inside,

Speaker 2 you had FBI assets dressed as Trump supporters that knew their way around the Capitol. Before the door's even open.
Before the doors open. Or else, how are you going to get around the Capitol?

Speaker 2 You've been there many times. You need a guide to get from whatever door you go in.
It's a labyrinth.

Speaker 2 It's a maze inside there.

Speaker 2 That's right. So there's no way, just Americans, most of which have never been to the Capitol.
There's no way they can come in some random door that gets opened and then get their way directly to the

Speaker 2 statuary or the House chamber or the Senate chamber. It's just not possible.
So

Speaker 2 the FBI assets that were dressed as Trump supporters that were inside the Capitol were there, I believe, and evidence indicates that they were there to specifically wave in

Speaker 2 the Trump supporters that had gathered outside the Capitol. And the doors opened and they were allowed in.
And on the inside were... were, oh, there's some more Trump supporters.

Speaker 2 But really, those were FBI assets, law enforcement assets that knew their way around the Capitol. And they they waved those guys in, said, come on, follow us.

Speaker 2 And they're the ones that led them on the path directly. Man, how do you think a guy has never been to the Capitol going to going to come into the Capitol all amped up on

Speaker 2 emotion and make his way straight to Nancy Pelosi's office? Come on. It's like I couldn't get there.
There's no way. I've been there for seven years.

Speaker 2 Could come in some random door at the Capitol and make my way to Nancy Pelosi. Everything is unmarked.

Speaker 1 I mean, those leadership offices are unmarked.

Speaker 2 It's confusing to get around in the Capitol. Every American that has been there knows this.
When you go on a tour, you bring your family to D.C., you go through the Capitol, you have to have a guide.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 on January 6th, the guides were FBI assets, the law enforcement assets. And they were dressed as Trump supporters.

Speaker 2 They were positioned inside the Capitol prior to the doors being opened so that the Americans that had assembled outside the Capitol, once allowed in, could be brought directly to the areas where

Speaker 2 the FBI and the DOJ and the deep state actors knew would be

Speaker 2 the most

Speaker 2 sort of

Speaker 2 condemning criminal action of

Speaker 2 Americans

Speaker 2 being inside the Capitol

Speaker 2 protesting without permit and things. They knew they were setting the stage for arrest and prosecution.

Speaker 2 It's such a crime.

Speaker 1 Who planned this, do you think?

Speaker 2 I think factions

Speaker 2 planned this. I wouldn't say who, Dr.
Carthage, because

Speaker 2 I don't think there was one person

Speaker 2 that planned this, but I believe the faction of

Speaker 2 establishment liberals

Speaker 2 within the the FBI and the Democrat Party and our intelligence services to to another extent

Speaker 2 use their massive powers of surveillance and

Speaker 2 in and investigative

Speaker 2 assets that they have across the country. confidential informants, registered informants, non-registered informers, voluntary informants.

Speaker 2 It's a

Speaker 2 complex web of

Speaker 2 FBI assets across the country that can be activated. So if you have authority

Speaker 2 at some of the highest levels in the FBI, and it doesn't take much,

Speaker 2 the faction within the FBI and within our intelligence services that would coordinate with

Speaker 2 the most extreme liberal

Speaker 2 factions within the Democrat Party that were desperate to keep Trump out of office

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 worked within the theater of operations, shall we say,

Speaker 2 that had been set by the COVID-alleged medical emergencies nationwide and millions and millions of mail-in ballots.

Speaker 2 There's no daylight daylight between the the compromised election cycle of November 2020 and ultimately what happened on

Speaker 2 Jay 6th. So

Speaker 2 you ask who planned this,

Speaker 2 this would be the combination of

Speaker 2 several of the most extreme liberal, anti-Trump, anti-America First factions

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 were in positions of authority within our federal law enforcement organizations and

Speaker 2 the Democrat Party across the country.

Speaker 1 When you say that there were FBI assets in the crowd in the building beforehand and certainly outside,

Speaker 1 what's the scale of this? You're talking like 10, 20? No.

Speaker 2 Based upon some very conservative but like hard

Speaker 2 investigative effort

Speaker 2 evaluation of the numbers from putting together eyewitnesses and and videos and

Speaker 2 and affidavit statement and whistleblower statements and uh court records that have been revealed through individual criminal cases where J6 defendants have been prosecuted and smart attorneys have forced

Speaker 2 admissions by the DOJ and the FBI, but those admissions have been sealed within the parameter of that criminal case by protective order by the judge. So

Speaker 2 I can't share them, but I've seen them. So real

Speaker 2 hard, objective, and conservative estimates would put the of FBI assets in the crowd, outside and working inside at well over 200.

Speaker 1 200? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So you were in law enforcement? Yeah.
Yeah. Before you came to Congress in the military as well.

Speaker 1 That seemed, that's an extraordinary number.

Speaker 1 Is it?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 no, when you think about the scope of the operation, if you were going to do this, you would need to be able to get a bunch of people.

Speaker 1 But relative to, so like when, when, I don't know, Minneapolis burned down,

Speaker 1 or when St. John's, the Episcopal Church of Carson, the White House in Lafayette Square was set ablaze and all the Secret Service agents were injured.

Speaker 1 Were there 200 FBI assets in the crowd among Antifa then?

Speaker 2 I mean, I don't know how many undercover agents the FBI would have in a situation like that,

Speaker 2 but J6 was

Speaker 2 the final

Speaker 2 act prior to arrest and prosecution

Speaker 2 of

Speaker 2 Americans that

Speaker 2 were identified as Trump supporters. I mean, the objective was to destroy the entire mega movement,

Speaker 2 to forever stain.

Speaker 2 the

Speaker 2 patriotic fervor that was associated with the America First

Speaker 2 mega movement that had won in 2016 and we believe won again in 2020. And the establishment

Speaker 2 on both sides of both major parties were determined to smash that out of existence, not just by defeating Trump, but by destroying the

Speaker 2 reputations

Speaker 2 of the movement itself, by creating this narrative that was totally false,

Speaker 2 but was heavily pushed, that

Speaker 2 mega-Republicans, American First Republicans

Speaker 2 are somehow a danger to our Republic and a domestic terror threat, which is a whole other story about what the FBI has done to tagging Americans as suspected domestic terrorists.

Speaker 2 and following us as we travel across the country. But

Speaker 2 the bottom line is that

Speaker 2 200 as a I believe is a conservative number. First of all, I think there were many more.

Speaker 2 But a number that I'm comfortable going on record with is that we believe that

Speaker 2 there were easily 200 FBI undercover assets operating in the crowd

Speaker 2 outside the Capitol, embedded into groups that entered the Capitol or provoked entry of the Capitol and

Speaker 2 working with FBI assets that would have included Metro Police and Capitol Police that would dress as Trump supporters inside the Capitol because those were the guys that knew their way around the Capitol.

Speaker 2 So given the scope of the operation and the number of doors where entry was allowed or even encouraged

Speaker 2 then the and the number of people that were actually outside the Capitol and it entered, we believe 200 is a conservative number, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 It's shocking what you're saying. It confirms everyone's worst suspicions about this.
It's clearly true.

Speaker 1 Did you come across any evidence that the DOD, the military, either Defense Intelligence Agency or National Guard or any part of the U.S. military played any role in this at all?

Speaker 2 I have not seen that.

Speaker 2 I've heard the echoes of that suspicion, and I have observed circumstantial evidence that has been presented to me,

Speaker 2 that I have reviewed.

Speaker 2 But to me,

Speaker 2 it does not rise to the level that I would call

Speaker 2 actionable from an investigative perspective. So

Speaker 2 there was some suspicion, but

Speaker 2 in law enforcement, the thresholds you're looking across is reasonable suspicion that would prompt a criminal investigation. And then the next threshold is probable cause, which you need for arrest.

Speaker 2 And then, of course, in our system, finally, the last threshold is

Speaker 2 conviction and guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. So

Speaker 2 I did review evidence, Tucker, regarding some suspicions of military involvement in some way.

Speaker 2 And I have reviewed some of that evidence

Speaker 2 that I've been able to get my hands on. And I do not think that the military

Speaker 2 was involved, not at the level, most certainly not at the level of the FBI

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 over the course of all of 2020.

Speaker 2 And then on J four, five, and six,

Speaker 2 the FBI working in coordination with other law enforcement assets that they roped into the operation from Metro P.D., from D.C. and

Speaker 2 the Capitol Police were sort of

Speaker 2 sort of tricked into participating with

Speaker 2 what the FBI had been staging for

Speaker 2 10 months.

Speaker 1 Aaron Ross Powell, just

Speaker 1 if you take three steps back, this is not democracy. So the federal agencies serve under the oversight of the elected president and then under the oversight of the elected Congress.

Speaker 1 Their elected people get to make the decisions. You had a Republican president, you now have a Republican Congress,

Speaker 1 and neither one can get a straight answer from the FBI. No one has any control over the FBI.
You're describing a government within a government.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 in America,

Speaker 2 a question becomes reasonable men

Speaker 2 would ask when we face a crisis like this, who investigates the investigators? Right.

Speaker 2 And the answer in America is Congress.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 we have the responsibility to investigate through the appropriate committees, which

Speaker 2 we're certainly doing that now that we have Republican majority in control of the committees, but we don't have the power to arrest.

Speaker 2 We can give criminal referrals based upon our investigative efforts, but we have to have a DOJ that's receptive to the criminal referrals. So we've hit quite a brick wall, have we not?

Speaker 2 Constitutionally,

Speaker 2 we have the responsibility to investigate objectively,

Speaker 2 And anyone that knows me knows that's exactly what

Speaker 2 I'm pursuing. I do not have, I'm not trying to create a crime to fit a narrative to blame on the FBI.
I'm following the evidence, and to my horror, it implicates our FBI at the highest levels.

Speaker 2 a conspiracy within our government at the highest level to create the

Speaker 2 to set the stage

Speaker 2 for a compromised election cycle in 2020, and then

Speaker 2 the actions that took place on J4, 5, and 6, and then

Speaker 2 the criminal investigation, arrest, and prosecution of Americans that they were able to entrap and document with the thousands of cameras that were were operating that day and use that evidence that they knew they were setting up to investigate, arrest, and prosecute the Americans that they had entrapped.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 Congress can investigate these things and we are and we will reveal these horrific truths and we will have criminal referrals. But until you have

Speaker 2 a president running the executive branch that will will clean house at the DOJ and FBI at the highest levels and put American patriots in place that will be, that will act upon the criminal referrals that Congress provides, then none of those guys are going to get arrested because they're not going to arrest themselves.

Speaker 2 And we don't have arrest authority.

Speaker 1 I'm a little surprised.

Speaker 1 And don't expect you to be critical of your colleagues in the Republican conference, but I mean, they do control the House. Impeachment is a thing.
Chris Ray is still the FBI director.

Speaker 1 I watched Republicans, some of whom I know, cheer the murder of Ashley Babbitt, who's an unarmed woman, less than 5'5,

Speaker 1 by Michael Byrd. They were on Michael Byrd's side.
And I have to say, for a lot of Republican voters, and I count myself among them, very clarifying.

Speaker 1 If you're cheering Ashley Babbitt's murder, shooting women now, that's okay because she likes Trump.

Speaker 2 And there are Republicans who are like, yeah, I was happy.

Speaker 1 Like a lot of them thought that. What the hell?

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was, and it

Speaker 1 made me sick. Me too.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 there's a great responsibility when you wear a badge in America. I mean, think about it.

Speaker 2 To be the designated servant of your community that

Speaker 2 has the authority to

Speaker 2 to deny the freedom of a fellow American in the land of the free. Like, that's a heavy responsibility.
So the escalation of

Speaker 2 force

Speaker 2 must be appropriate in order to effect a lawful arrest.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 a bad shoot

Speaker 2 is the worst thing that an officer can possibly be involved in in his in his career.

Speaker 2 It's the thing of nightmares for good police officers. So to take what was what from a law enforcement perspective was clearly a bad shoot because there's some basic rules you just cannot violate.

Speaker 2 You have to attempt to effect an arrest before you can go to deadly force.

Speaker 2 There was no attempt to arrest Ashley Babbitt.

Speaker 2 officers on the other side of the window she was climbing through. There were officers on the interior side of the window she was climbing through.

Speaker 2 There was no indication

Speaker 2 this had been going on for an hour, and there was no reports on the radio or anywhere else of gunfights.

Speaker 2 So there was no reason at that point to expect that Ashley Babbitt or anybody else in the crowd was going to produce a firearm and start firing on police officers. Why? Because it had not happened.

Speaker 2 See, that's part of the totality of circumstance that a police officer is responsible for knowing. We stay in constant communication with our radios.
We know what's going on.

Speaker 2 That officer that had pulled that trigger

Speaker 2 shot

Speaker 2 an

Speaker 2 American woman who was clearly in a... in like a physically compromised position, climbing through the broken glass of a window is not,

Speaker 2 you know, it's not like she just stepped into the cage at MMA and she was ready to fight. She's climbing through a window draped in a flag.
There's police officers on the other side of the window.

Speaker 2 There's police officers on the interior side of the window. So you have plenty enough officer presence.
If you want to arrest that woman, then by all means,

Speaker 2 Pull her through the window, you know, put flex cuffs on her and throw her in the corner. We'll get to you later, ma'am.
We're kind of busy right now. But that's what you do.

Speaker 2 You'd have grabbed that woman and pulled her through,

Speaker 2 flex cuffed her and threw her in the corner, or handed her back to somebody that could pull her back, you know, from that front line right there. So I understand

Speaker 2 that very well. I understand officers have to make split-second decisions, but you never

Speaker 2 make a decision to use lethal force unless it's absolutely called for and required. If you're losing a fight attempting to effect an arrest, then yeah,

Speaker 2 if the officer's life is in danger and it's all by himself, but there never should be a circumstance where you just pull the trigger on a woman climbing through a window that's clearly unarmed.

Speaker 2 There's no evidence of gunplay from the crowd that she's coming from. You got officers on both sides of where she is.
If you got to arrest her, then by all means, arrest her.

Speaker 2 You know, put flex cuffs on her and

Speaker 2 move on. So

Speaker 2 she can handle the next person trying to come through the window, but you don't shoot her. So

Speaker 2 that's true. There's an investigation.

Speaker 2 It was cheered.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Why do you think that was?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 there's this insanity that has taken hold

Speaker 2 in the minds and hearts of many otherwise reasonable American citizens where

Speaker 2 they hate Trump so much, like they're so deeply embedded and they've sold their souls to the establishment that when we had an America first president and

Speaker 2 he like stopped the

Speaker 2 military-industrial complex forward momentum and

Speaker 2 he began restoring power to individual members of Congress and restoring individual individual rights and freedoms and sovereignty of the state. And he took away the actions of the cartels and

Speaker 2 brought this

Speaker 2 rook common sense approach to the executive branch and was leading our country in that beautiful direction. This was interfering with the business model of the establishment.
So many

Speaker 2 career politicians on both sides of the aisle, and I, you know,

Speaker 2 I don't like those guys, man. I'm not one of them.

Speaker 2 I serve my country in Congress, but I don't consider myself a politician by any means. I'm a servant to we, the people.
But some of these guys, man, they pop out of the womb

Speaker 2 to be politicians.

Speaker 2 You're groomed their whole life, you know, to be a

Speaker 2 career politician. And those are the ones that had this instinctive cheer for

Speaker 2 something really bad happening to a Trump supporter. You know, their true color showed in that moment and was an ugly color.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude. We shouldn't be shooting women, number one.

Speaker 1 I couldn't agree more. So where does this go from here? You have this corpus of information.
It sounds like it's definitive. When does the public see the detail?

Speaker 1 And what's the process after that?

Speaker 2 It's a good question. So

Speaker 2 evidence from criminal investigations by nature is rather secretive, but there is a tremendous compilation of data that I think should be made completely available to the public, and that's the digital files from J4, 5, and 6.

Speaker 2 This is where Speaker Mike Johnson can be a champion for for that will be remembered for throughout history as the Speaker of the House that fully released unredacted

Speaker 2 digital files from J4, 5, and 6 completely to the American people.

Speaker 2 And within that data

Speaker 2 is full truth.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 the American people

Speaker 2 There's the only staff large enough

Speaker 2 to, you know, frame by

Speaker 2 go through 80,000 hours of digital evidence. Nobody has a staff big enough to do that.
But we can crowdsource it to the American people.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 you ask when will this evidence be released?

Speaker 2 I've been encouraging Speaker Johnson, as I did Speaker McCarthy, to,

Speaker 2 by God, man, release this data to the American people.

Speaker 2 Why won't they?

Speaker 2 I believe Speaker Johnson will,

Speaker 2 but Mike is

Speaker 2 quite a skilled constitutionalist attorney himself, and he's a very measured, patient, faithful man.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I extend trust to Speaker Johnson when he says that it's his intention to fully release the,

Speaker 2 called the J-6 tapes, but really it's digital evidence. It's more than

Speaker 2 It's more than just video evidence. It's a lot.

Speaker 2 Radio transcripts, the whole thing.

Speaker 2 I believe Speaker Johnson

Speaker 2 knows that this is a significant

Speaker 2 duty that

Speaker 2 he must perform for the American people. It's a moment in history where,

Speaker 2 you know, I I believe our Lord and Savior has placed him in

Speaker 2 that position of service to the country, and he has a responsibility to fully release that data.

Speaker 2 And then the American people will see for themselves what some of us have already learned to our horror to be true.

Speaker 1 Congressman Higgins, thank you very much.